[Healeys] Overdrive Relay
Robert Markovich
rmarkovich at aol.com
Mon Sep 23 15:26:38 MDT 2024
And of course misadjustment will burn these out in no time …
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On Monday, September 23, 2024, 11:47 AM, Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
Yes, there are crap solenoids in the wild (side note: there's also rumors that bad actors were buying surplus Lucas boxes and putting Chinese crap in them).
Years ago, our own Michael Salter acquired some legit Lucas/quality solenoids and offered them for sale. For once, I was smart enough to grab one even though I didn't need it at the time, but did a few years later. Since the plunger shouldn't wear, and the windings should last a long time the most likely failure point is, well, the points (there are two in the solenoids: a momentary 'pull up' set and a 'sustain' set--why the circuit should have a slow blow fuse). I don't know if they have any internal arc protection, but you could probably rig something external, though given the cycles the solenoid experiences it shouldn't really be an issue. Same issue is in points ignition and our beloved S.U. fuel pumps: arcing across the points when a coil field collapses causes erosion of the points due to metal transfer. Capacitors ('condensers') and diodes can mitigate erosion but, eventually, the points will pit and possibly stick.
On 9/23/2024 1:48 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
The other day my overdrive stopped working. (For the nth time. Toyota 5 speed please Santa).
Anyhow, it failed what I called the “click test” so I was 99% sure that the fault was electric. First off, it’s fused so the wiring was unlikely to be fried and the fuse had not blown The relay passed its bench test and the throttle switch was OK. So, I was pretty sure it was the solenoid…..maybe the gearstick switch but didn’t seem likely.
So, I dismantled down to the solenoid. Not too serious in a BT7 and much helped by having tunnel cover held down by stainless steel screws into rivnuts.
Put a test lamp in lieu of the solenoid. Lamp lit up when OD was “On” and stick was to the right. So, the problem WAS in the solenoid and final proof was its replacement by a spare which solved the problem.
I took the rubber cover off the top and there was no evidence of frying etc. All looked good. The solenoid was dead as a dodo….putting it across a spare 12v battery didn’t induce a sound or a twitch.
Now, the question(s)……are there dud ones out there? Why/how did it fail?
Just curious…….
Simon
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