From paulleeks909 at gmail.com  Wed May  1 07:13:04 2024
From: paulleeks909 at gmail.com (Paul Leeks)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 14:13:04 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] BBC News: BBC Archive 1970: The cost of running a car -
 BBC
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WRT the recent 'gas price' discussion, I thought you might enjoy this ...

BBC News - BBC Archive 1970: The cost of running a car - BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/videos/ce5ln6k62pxo

Paul Leeks
100/6 BN4



BBC News - BBC Archive 1970: The cost of running a car - BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/videos/ce5ln6k62pxo
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From emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk  Fri May  3 14:58:28 2024
From: emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk (David Lodge)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 20:58:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] The sad but inevitable
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 Deepest condolences.

    On Monday, 29 April 2024 at 14:53:17 GMT-7, Perry Small via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Listers
Life has a habit of messing with you from time to time. Plans and expectations change and require us to buckle up and go for a ride. 
Had plans to pass on our two 100?s to our eldest son in Portland Oregon . His sudden demise requires a new plan. If this breaks the rules regarding selling on the list, I will call this email as a heads up, two cars are available. 
1954 100 Yellow Nasty boy 350 Chevy, four speed, disc brakes on 4 corners. Other 100 is a red BN2 1955 that I have owned since 1965 and was restored to stock condition 30+\~ years ago. 
Interested email healeyguy at aol.com

Perry Small
Now located in South Carolina


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From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk  Sat May  4 14:38:23 2024
From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2024 20:38:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] 100 fanbelts
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The fanbelt for a 100 should be 3/4" wide and 1/2" deep in a V shape. 3/4" wide (19mm) is not a currently standard metric size. I've just bought a replacement? belt from one of the usual UK suppliers. It's 22mm wide and doesn't sit in the pulleys properly. I then went to another supplier who claims to be selling the correct width belt. It turned out to be exactly the same 22mm size. I've researched this, and these belts are standard modern metric size "C". The belt that came off my 100 ( it had been there for at least 20 years and 12000 miles) was a B1130 B43 belt, 17mm wide. It sat slightly low in the pulley grooves, but was much more flexible than the 22mm belts and was altogether a better fit.
What are others using for their 100 fan belts? Note I don't want to convert to narrow belts and pulleys.
Mike56 BN2

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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Sat May  4 16:17:00 2024
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2024 15:17:00 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] 100 fanbelts
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A Gates industrial belt B45 is  a very close copy of the original.
Mike MacLean

On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 1:53?PM mike brooks via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> The fanbelt for a 100 should be 3/4" wide and 1/2" deep in a V shape. 3/4"
> wide (19mm) is not a currently standard metric size. I've just bought a
> replacement  belt from one of the usual UK suppliers. It's 22mm wide and
> doesn't sit in the pulleys properly. I then went to another supplier who
> claims to be selling the correct width belt. It turned out to be exactly
> the same 22mm size. I've researched this, and these belts are standard
> modern metric size "C". The belt that came off my 100 ( it had been there
> for at least 20 years and 12000 miles) was a B1130 B43 belt, 17mm wide. It
> sat slightly low in the pulley grooves, but was much more flexible than the
> 22mm belts and was altogether a better fit.
>
> What are others using for their 100 fan belts? Note I don't want to
> convert to narrow belts and pulleys.
>
> Mike
> 56 BN2
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Sat May  4 21:32:11 2024
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2024 20:32:11 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Gas prices
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I just got back to Oregon. Went to Napa, CA. Most expensive premium gas I
saw was $6 .10
Regular as low as $4.65

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6


On Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 4:23?PM Herb Miller via Healeys <
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> How are you from California dealing with $ 7.50  per gallon of gas. ?
>
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From wkollar at nycap.rr.com  Sun May  5 09:12:20 2024
From: wkollar at nycap.rr.com (Bill Kollar)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 11:12:20 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] 100 fanbelts
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This brings to mind a 54 BN1 Fan Belt Story.

Mid to late 60's or so,? I was traveling home, in my? 54, 100-4 after 
going to the Sunday afternoon? NASCAR Sportsman/Modified races at 
Victoria Speedway, off Rt 20 in NY.?? On the way home I blew a fan belt 
while going through a very small village, a one gas station town.?? 
Since the gas station was my only hope to get running again I walked 
there, went inside and discussed the situation with the 
attendant/owner.? As expected, he did not have a Healey belt in stock 
but he let me rummage through a bunch of old belts he had stored in a 
back room.

It took me about 15 or 20 minutes or so to find a belt that looked as if 
it might fit, close to the proper width and length.? I believe it was a 
belt for some tractor trailer.? He wanted $10.00 for it, I only had 
$5.00, he took the $5 and I was off to attempt an installation.? I 
cleaned the belt, as best as I could and installed It, the fit was not 
perfect but basically okay? It did however protrude slightly higher 
above the pulley than the one that had blown.? I left that belt on the 
car for a couple more years with no further problems.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

On 5/4/2024 4:38 PM, mike brooks via Healeys wrote:
> The fanbelt for a 100 should be 3/4" wide and 1/2" deep in a V shape. 
> 3/4" wide (19mm) is not a currently standard metric size. I've just 
> bought a replacement? belt from one of the usual UK suppliers. It's 
> 22mm wide and doesn't sit in the pulleys properly. I then went to 
> another supplier who claims to be selling the correct width belt. It 
> turned out to be exactly the same 22mm size. I've researched this, and 
> these belts are standard modern metric size "C". The belt that came 
> off my 100 ( it had been there for at least 20 years and 12000 miles) 
> was a B1130 B43 belt, 17mm wide. It sat slightly low in the pulley 
> grooves, but was much more flexible than the 22mm belts and was 
> altogether a better fit.
>
> What are others using for their 100 fan belts? Note I don't want to 
> convert to narrow belts and pulleys.
>
> Mike
> 56 BN2
>
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sun May  5 10:18:58 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 12:18:58 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] 100 fanbelts
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Not sure if this helps but thie is an original and it is exactly 3/4" wide
at the top.
M

On Sat., May 4, 2024, 6:32 p.m. Michael MacLean, <springer.mike51 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> A Gates industrial belt B45 is  a very close copy of the original.
> Mike MacLean
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 1:53?PM mike brooks via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> The fanbelt for a 100 should be 3/4" wide and 1/2" deep in a V shape.
>> 3/4" wide (19mm) is not a currently standard metric size. I've just bought
>> a replacement  belt from one of the usual UK suppliers. It's 22mm wide and
>> doesn't sit in the pulleys properly. I then went to another supplier who
>> claims to be selling the correct width belt. It turned out to be exactly
>> the same 22mm size. I've researched this, and these belts are standard
>> modern metric size "C". The belt that came off my 100 ( it had been there
>> for at least 20 years and 12000 miles) was a B1130 B43 belt, 17mm wide. It
>> sat slightly low in the pulley grooves, but was much more flexible than the
>> 22mm belts and was altogether a better fit.
>>
>> What are others using for their 100 fan belts? Note I don't want to
>> convert to narrow belts and pulleys.
>>
>> Mike
>> 56 BN2
>>
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From healeyray at yahoo.com  Sun May  5 22:14:29 2024
From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 04:14:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] 100 fanbelts
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References: <1252585422.10875081.1714855103843.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <CAL4ZEOO=0ocoJEovbR48sOCPqz0VTS4pdoWkqp1hV9=FmUas4g@mail.gmail.com>
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 I get nothing on the "Gates Industrial" site in a search for a B-45 belt. Is there a part number or additional information that would help in the search?Regards 
Raay

    On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 06:30:40 PM PDT, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Not sure if this helps but thie is an original and it is exactly 3/4" wide at the top.M
On Sat., May 4, 2024, 6:32 p.m. Michael MacLean, <springer.mike51 at gmail.com> wrote:

A Gates industrial belt B45 is? a very close copy of the original.Mike MacLean

On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 1:53?PM mike brooks via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

The fanbelt for a 100 should be 3/4" wide and 1/2" deep in a V shape. 3/4" wide (19mm) is not a currently standard metric size. I've just bought a replacement? belt from one of the usual UK suppliers. It's 22mm wide and doesn't sit in the pulleys properly. I then went to another supplier who claims to be selling the correct width belt. It turned out to be exactly the same 22mm size. I've researched this, and these belts are standard modern metric size "C". The belt that came off my 100 ( it had been there for at least 20 years and 12000 miles) was a B1130 B43 belt, 17mm wide. It sat slightly low in the pulley grooves, but was much more flexible than the 22mm belts and was altogether a better fit.
What are others using for their 100 fan belts? Note I don't want to convert to narrow belts and pulleys.
Mike56 BN2

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From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk  Mon May  6 01:10:46 2024
From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 07:10:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] 100 fanbelts
In-Reply-To: <1041661709.7373813.1714968869230@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <1252585422.10875081.1714855103843@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAL4ZEOO=0ocoJEovbR48sOCPqz0VTS4pdoWkqp1hV9=FmUas4g@mail.gmail.com>
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B45 not B-45. Just searched at Gates.com and it came up.

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  On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 5:14, Ray Juncal<healeyray at yahoo.com> wrote:    I get nothing on the "Gates Industrial" site in a search for a B-45 belt. Is there a part number or additional information that would help in the search?Regards 
Raay

    On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 06:30:40 PM PDT, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Not sure if this helps but thie is an original and it is exactly 3/4" wide at the top.M
On Sat., May 4, 2024, 6:32 p.m. Michael MacLean, <springer.mike51 at gmail.com> wrote:

A Gates industrial belt B45 is? a very close copy of the original.Mike MacLean

On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 1:53?PM mike brooks via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

The fanbelt for a 100 should be 3/4" wide and 1/2" deep in a V shape. 3/4" wide (19mm) is not a currently standard metric size. I've just bought a replacement? belt from one of the usual UK suppliers. It's 22mm wide and doesn't sit in the pulleys properly. I then went to another supplier who claims to be selling the correct width belt. It turned out to be exactly the same 22mm size. I've researched this, and these belts are standard modern metric size "C". The belt that came off my 100 ( it had been there for at least 20 years and 12000 miles) was a B1130 B43 belt, 17mm wide. It sat slightly low in the pulley grooves, but was much more flexible than the 22mm belts and was altogether a better fit.
What are others using for their 100 fan belts? Note I don't want to convert to narrow belts and pulleys.
Mike56 BN2

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From ah100tech at gmail.com  Mon May  6 03:51:02 2024
From: ah100tech at gmail.com (john harper)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 10:51:02 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] 100 fanbelts
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Mike

The original belts were 32 degrees whereas most modern belts are 36,38 and
40. I have not found a UK A-H supplier that can supply the correct item. To
give the best drive without slippage the angle of the belt should be
virtually the same as the pulleys.

There are still New Old Stock belts available if one searches around. Below
is a list of possible belts but be careful about the overall length because
there was more than one dynamo pulley fitted.
 Ferodo V150 with the following dimensions: Outside Circumference 47.4
inches, Inside Circumference 47.3 inches Top Width 0.75 Thickness 0.5 Angle
32 degrees inclusive

A near equivalent, and sometimes recommended alternative, is the

Ferodo V104 with an O.C. of 46.1?. This is rather tight: and may need the
dynamo to be partly removed to fit it. Other equivalents are;

Mintex TK 474

Romac C738,

and a later addition Raybestos  R289


All the best


On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 08:27, mike brooks via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> B45 not B-45. Just searched at Gates.com and it came up.
>
> Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer
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>
> On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 5:14, Ray Juncal
> <healeyray at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I get nothing on the "Gates Industrial" site in a search for a B-45 belt.
> Is there a part number or additional information that would help in the
> search?
> Regards
> Raay
>
> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 06:30:40 PM PDT, Michael Salter <
> michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Not sure if this helps but thie is an original and it is exactly 3/4" wide
> at the top.
> M
>
> On Sat., May 4, 2024, 6:32 p.m. Michael MacLean, <
> springer.mike51 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A Gates industrial belt B45 is  a very close copy of the original.
> Mike MacLean
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 1:53?PM mike brooks via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> The fanbelt for a 100 should be 3/4" wide and 1/2" deep in a V shape. 3/4"
> wide (19mm) is not a currently standard metric size. I've just bought a
> replacement  belt from one of the usual UK suppliers. It's 22mm wide and
> doesn't sit in the pulleys properly. I then went to another supplier who
> claims to be selling the correct width belt. It turned out to be exactly
> the same 22mm size. I've researched this, and these belts are standard
> modern metric size "C". The belt that came off my 100 ( it had been there
> for at least 20 years and 12000 miles) was a B1130 B43 belt, 17mm wide. It
> sat slightly low in the pulley grooves, but was much more flexible than the
> 22mm belts and was altogether a better fit.
>
> What are others using for their 100 fan belts? Note I don't want to
> convert to narrow belts and pulleys.
>
> Mike
> 56 BN2
>
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Mon May  6 09:18:29 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 08:18:29 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] 100 fanbelts
In-Reply-To: <CAL28cLXPZ3kxSqycO0=XLiVuunfGtHCTSx9WoVGmVz4WFzzo_Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Get a 'cogged' type--in appropriate size, of course--if you can. They 
seem to grip a little better and vibrate a little less.


On 5/6/2024 2:51 AM, john harper wrote:
> Mike
>
> The original belts were 32 degrees whereas most modern belts are 36,38 
> and 40. I have not found a UK A-H supplier that can supply the correct 
> item. To give the best drive without slippage the angle of the belt 
> should be virtually?the same as the pulleys.
>
> There are still New Old Stock belts available if one searches?around. 
> Below is a list of possible?belts but be careful about the 
> overall?length because there was more than one dynamo pulley fitted.
> Ferodo V150with the following dimensions: Outside Circumference 47.4 
> inches, Inside Circumference 47.3 inches Top Width 0.75 Thickness 0.5 
> Angle 32 degrees inclusive
>
> A near equivalent, and sometimes recommended alternative, is the
>
> Ferodo V104with an O.C. of 46.1?. This is rather tight: and may need 
> the dynamo to be partly removed to fit it. Other equivalents are;
>
> Mintex TK 474
>
> Romac C738,
>
> and a later addition Raybestos ?R289
>
>
> All the best
>
>
>
> On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 08:27, mike brooks via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     B45 not B-45. Just searched at Gates.com and it came up.
>
>     Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer
>     <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=NativePlacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_EmailSignatureGrowth_YahooMail:Search,Organize,Conquer&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000945&af_sub5=OrganizeConquer__Static_>
>
>         On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 5:14, Ray Juncal
>         <healeyray at yahoo.com> wrote:
>         I get nothing on the "Gates Industrial" site in a search for a
>         B-45 belt. Is there a part number or additional information
>         that would help in the search?
>         Regards
>         Raay
>
>         On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 06:30:40 PM PDT, Michael Salter
>         <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>         Not sure if this helps but thie is an original and it is
>         exactly 3/4" wide at the top.
>         M
>
>         On Sat., May 4, 2024, 6:32 p.m. Michael MacLean,
>         <springer.mike51 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>             A Gates industrial belt B45 is? a very close copy of the
>             original.
>             Mike MacLean
>
>             On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 1:53?PM mike brooks via Healeys
>             <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>                 The fanbelt for a 100 should be 3/4" wide and 1/2"
>                 deep in a V shape. 3/4" wide (19mm) is not a currently
>                 standard metric size. I've just bought a replacement
>                 belt from one of the usual UK suppliers. It's 22mm
>                 wide and doesn't sit in the pulleys properly. I then
>                 went to another supplier who claims to be selling the
>                 correct width belt. It turned out to be exactly the
>                 same 22mm size. I've researched this, and these belts
>                 are standard modern metric size "C". The belt that
>                 came off my 100 ( it had been there for at least 20
>                 years and 12000 miles) was a B1130 B43 belt, 17mm
>                 wide. It sat slightly low in the pulley grooves, but
>                 was much more flexible than the 22mm belts and was
>                 altogether a better fit.
>
>                 What are others using for their 100 fan belts? Note I
>                 don't want to convert to narrow belts and pulleys.
>
>                 Mike
>                 56 BN2
>
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From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Mon, 06 May 2024 16:40:41 +0000
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From manifold at telus.net  Mon May  6 11:17:09 2024
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 10:17:09 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] 100 fanbelts
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A few comments on fan belts. Cog belts are better for small diameter
pulleys like those found on our Healeys but are not a must have. I am not
sure about 100's but the 6 cylinder Healeys have a 36 groove angle on the
pulleys. Try to find a belt that is close to 36 degrees. The width of the
belt is best determined by Ride-Out.

Ride-Out is the distance from the outside diameter of the pulley to the top
of the belt. For both the 3/8? and ?? pulley Ride-Out should be between
0.015? ? 0.105? or about 1/16?. If the Ride-Out is outside of this range
either the belt is worn out or it is the wrong size belt.

[image: image.png]
Note there should be a gap between the bottom of the belt and bottom of the
pulley groove.

To find the right belt for my 3000 I went to a supplier with a large stock
and used trial and error to find the right length and width.

Harold

On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 9:48?AM Hank Leach via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Great story Bill...that's when $10 was ten dollars. The whole issue with
> Healey belts is the tightness and I have seen quite a few fractured
> generator mounts on the engines from being too tight. There is also a
> caution in the service manual as to burning out bearings in the generator
> if too tight.
>
> When I first saw a 100 belt I was amazed as to it's stoutness-only to be
> outdone by the flywheel! I, too searched far and wide for the proper belt
> and my spare from John Bull turned out to be incorrect. I took the original
> belt to a John Deere store and found one that worked-used on tractors and
> mowers. Just another source for those obscure items that Autozone does not
> carry.
>
> The issue I had restoring my 100 revolved around the improper generator
> pully (as John Harper say there are many) After assembly the belt did not
> line up with the crank pulley-Kent Lambert (dearly departed) supplied the
> proper pulley.  Hank
>
> --------------------
>
> From: "Bill Kollar via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Reply-To: "Bill Kollar" <wkollar at nycap.rr.com>
> To: <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: May 5, 2024 at 6:07 PM PDT
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 fanbelts
>
> This brings to mind a 54 BN1 Fan Belt Story.
>
> Mid to late 60's or so,  I was traveling home, in my  54, 100-4 after
> going to the Sunday afternoon  NASCAR Sportsman/Modified races at Victoria
> Speedway, off Rt 20 in NY.   On the way home I blew a fan belt while going
> through a very small village, a one gas station town.   Since the gas
> station was my only hope to get running again I walked there, went inside
> and discussed the situation with the attendant/owner.  As expected, he did
> not have a Healey belt in stock but he let me rummage through a bunch of
> old belts he had stored in a back room.
>
> It took me about 15 or 20 minutes or so to find a belt that looked as if
> it might fit, close to the proper width and length.  I believe it was a
> belt for some tractor trailer.  He wanted $10.00 for it, I only had $5.00,
> he took the $5 and I was off to attempt an installation.  I cleaned the
> belt, as best as I could and installed It, the fit was not perfect but
> basically okay  It did however protrude slightly higher above the pulley
> than the one that had blown.  I left that belt on the car for a couple more
> years with no further problems.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> On 5/4/2024 4:38 PM, mike brooks via Healeys wrote:
>
> The fanbelt for a 100 should be 3/4" wide and 1/2" deep in a V shape. 3/4"
> wide (19mm) is not a currently standard metric size. I've just bought a
> replacement  belt from one of the usual UK suppliers. It's 22mm wide and
> doesn't sit in the pulleys properly. I then went to another supplier who
> claims to be selling the correct width belt. It turned out to be exactly
> the same 22mm size. I've researched this, and these belts are standard
> modern metric size "C". The belt that came off my 100 ( it had been there
> for at least 20 years and 12000 miles) was a B1130 B43 belt, 17mm wide. It
> sat slightly low in the pulley grooves, but was much more flexible than the
> 22mm belts and was altogether a better fit.
>
> What are others using for their 100 fan belts? Note I don't want to
> convert to narrow belts and pulleys.
>
> Mike
> 56 BN2
>
> Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer
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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Tue May  7 01:48:36 2024
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 15:48:36 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] 100 fanbelts
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All -

An excellent belt to use on the 100 is the Mitsuboshi RECMF-8440 which is a
perfect fit toothed belt.  These are sold for use in machinery but they sit
nicely in the groove and are not expensive at all.  You can order online no
problem.

Best,

Alan

On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 1:52?AM Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:

> A few comments on fan belts. Cog belts are better for small diameter
> pulleys like those found on our Healeys but are not a must have. I am not
> sure about 100's but the 6 cylinder Healeys have a 36 groove angle on the
> pulleys. Try to find a belt that is close to 36 degrees. The width of the
> belt is best determined by Ride-Out.
>
> Ride-Out is the distance from the outside diameter of the pulley to the
> top of the belt. For both the 3/8? and ?? pulley Ride-Out should be between
> 0.015? ? 0.105? or about 1/16?. If the Ride-Out is outside of this range
> either the belt is worn out or it is the wrong size belt.
>
> [image: image.png]
> Note there should be a gap between the bottom of the belt and bottom of
> the pulley groove.
>
> To find the right belt for my 3000 I went to a supplier with a large stock
> and used trial and error to find the right length and width.
>
> Harold
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 9:48?AM Hank Leach via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Great story Bill...that's when $10 was ten dollars. The whole issue with
>> Healey belts is the tightness and I have seen quite a few fractured
>> generator mounts on the engines from being too tight. There is also a
>> caution in the service manual as to burning out bearings in the generator
>> if too tight.
>>
>> When I first saw a 100 belt I was amazed as to it's stoutness-only to be
>> outdone by the flywheel! I, too searched far and wide for the proper belt
>> and my spare from John Bull turned out to be incorrect. I took the original
>> belt to a John Deere store and found one that worked-used on tractors and
>> mowers. Just another source for those obscure items that Autozone does not
>> carry.
>>
>> The issue I had restoring my 100 revolved around the improper generator
>> pully (as John Harper say there are many) After assembly the belt did not
>> line up with the crank pulley-Kent Lambert (dearly departed) supplied the
>> proper pulley.  Hank
>>
>> --------------------
>>
>> From: "Bill Kollar via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> Reply-To: "Bill Kollar" <wkollar at nycap.rr.com>
>> To: <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: May 5, 2024 at 6:07 PM PDT
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 fanbelts
>>
>> This brings to mind a 54 BN1 Fan Belt Story.
>>
>> Mid to late 60's or so,  I was traveling home, in my  54, 100-4 after
>> going to the Sunday afternoon  NASCAR Sportsman/Modified races at Victoria
>> Speedway, off Rt 20 in NY.   On the way home I blew a fan belt while going
>> through a very small village, a one gas station town.   Since the gas
>> station was my only hope to get running again I walked there, went inside
>> and discussed the situation with the attendant/owner.  As expected, he did
>> not have a Healey belt in stock but he let me rummage through a bunch of
>> old belts he had stored in a back room.
>>
>> It took me about 15 or 20 minutes or so to find a belt that looked as if
>> it might fit, close to the proper width and length.  I believe it was a
>> belt for some tractor trailer.  He wanted $10.00 for it, I only had $5.00,
>> he took the $5 and I was off to attempt an installation.  I cleaned the
>> belt, as best as I could and installed It, the fit was not perfect but
>> basically okay  It did however protrude slightly higher above the pulley
>> than the one that had blown.  I left that belt on the car for a couple more
>> years with no further problems.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> On 5/4/2024 4:38 PM, mike brooks via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> The fanbelt for a 100 should be 3/4" wide and 1/2" deep in a V shape.
>> 3/4" wide (19mm) is not a currently standard metric size. I've just bought
>> a replacement  belt from one of the usual UK suppliers. It's 22mm wide and
>> doesn't sit in the pulleys properly. I then went to another supplier who
>> claims to be selling the correct width belt. It turned out to be exactly
>> the same 22mm size. I've researched this, and these belts are standard
>> modern metric size "C". The belt that came off my 100 ( it had been there
>> for at least 20 years and 12000 miles) was a B1130 B43 belt, 17mm wide. It
>> sat slightly low in the pulley grooves, but was much more flexible than the
>> 22mm belts and was altogether a better fit.
>>
>> What are others using for their 100 fan belts? Note I don't want to
>> convert to narrow belts and pulleys.
>>
>> Mike
>> 56 BN2
>>
>> Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer
>> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=NativePlacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_EmailSignatureGrowth_YahooMail:Search,Organize,Conquer&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000945&af_sub5=OrganizeConquer__Static_>
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From healeyguy at aol.com  Tue May  7 19:06:59 2024
From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 21:06:59 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Alex Manos
References: <4C80CFBB-3078-478D-A606-EEE4B4FF6E25.ref@aol.com>
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Listers
Any feedback from the list about your experience selling an Austin Healey to Alex Manos in LA?   Trying to put together a plan to sell our two 100?s
Thanks Perry
Sent from my iPhone

From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com  Wed May  8 08:20:08 2024
From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 14:20:08 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Alex Manos
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One friend sold him a 993 Porsche two or three years ago; another sold a barnfind 328 Ferrari;
Fair priced, no complaints. He resold both in a few weeks.
NFI
Regards,
Richard C


> On May 7, 2024, at 20:37, Perry Small via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Listers
> Any feedback from the list about your experience selling an Austin Healey to Alex Manos in LA?   Trying to put together a plan to sell our two 100?s
> Thanks Perry
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From airtightproductions at me.com  Wed May  8 08:31:09 2024
From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 14:31:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Alex Manos
In-Reply-To: <4C80CFBB-3078-478D-A606-EEE4B4FF6E25@aol.com>
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Perry, I have never met Alex in person, but I have dealt with him professionally through our AHCUSA magazine. He pays invoices on time and in full. Folks I know that have bought cars from him have said he didn't try to upsell them and what they were told about their cars before they bought them, was a fair representation of what the cars were. He's a dealer and he's going to try and get the most for what he has. I don't know of anyone who has sold a car to him, but again, as a dealer I am sure he is going to try and pay the least amount he can. Approach with caution, but it's going to be like selling to a pawn shop. You're not going to get top dollar, as he is not buying your cars for his collection, he is buying them to re-sell. And as such, he needs to make a profit on his end. But I would have confidence that once a deal was made, he would follow through. Hope this helps and best of luck. Cheers! Steven Kingsbury BN1 On May 7, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Perry Small via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: Listers Any feedback from the list about your experience selling an Austin Healey to Alex Manos in LA? Trying to put together a plan to sell our two 100?s Thanks Perry Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Wed May  8 16:12:39 2024
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 23:12:39 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3
In-Reply-To: <20240429024025.39267.qmail@server278.com>
References: <000001da94ac$ef5baf60$ce130e20$@alexarevel.plus.com>
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 Just when you thought it was all over......
So, thanks for all the replies and advice so far.
I've only been able to get back to the car in the last few days. Better weather and negotiating various domestic hurdles (usual stuff).
Mindful of specific advice:-
1) I swapped the relay for a new one left over from the last bout. The one in the car passed the tests but it could have been marginal I suppose.
2) I swapped the solenoid for a new one left over from the last bout. Ditto above.
3) I adjusted the Throttle Switch. God, that's a wretched thing.
4) Checked oil, electrics etcetc.
5) Pressure good at +/- 520psi
6) OD going in & out per usual tests ie when sitting in the garage
Etcetc
Took the car out for a longer trip today. Performed very well for about 10 miles then the slippage(?) started again. Especially on hills.
Removed the OD's fuse which, I reckon, puts the OD out of the game. Symptoms continued.
Now.....I know and I've experienced low OD pressure. All's well until oil warms up and pressure drops. But, now I've supposedly taken the OD out of the equation, I'm asking myself, "ODs are effected by their oil's temperature but the flywheel/clutch connection is friction. So, it either slips or it doesn't ie regardless of temperature."  Is that right???
Despite that question/worry of mine, I am leaning very much towards clutch slip as opposed to OD, which is pretty new don't forget. The slip is pretty drastic and seems to have worsened noticeably. 
I'm reluctant to take the box out until I've ruled out a few alternatives. If there are any!
Besides an issue at the clutch plate to flywheel connection, is there anything else that can cause this? 
Or are there other areas yet to be explored.
I really need to get this thing fixed as am hoping to take it over to Ireland in July.
Simon


From pieterscheen at yahoo.com  Wed May  8 19:08:38 2024
From: pieterscheen at yahoo.com (pieter scheenhouwer)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 11:08:38 +1000
Subject: [Healeys] Wheels loose
References: <15465EC3-5B03-4729-9F83-0576FBBB40C9.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15465EC3-5B03-4729-9F83-0576FBBB40C9@yahoo.com>

Gents,
I have 2 sets of wheels for my BJ7. A set of wires and a set of minilite replicas.
 Recently, I am having trouble getting the front wheels tight enough. It seems the thread on the hub is bottoming out in the spinner before it clamps the wheel properly unless I belt the hell out of it to get it tight enough.
The hubs and spinners have been on the car for over a decade. Car is a daily driver.
The obvious fix is to file/machine the end of the hub or replace the spinners.
Anyone else have this issue before.
Cheers
Piet
Sent from my iPhone

From mottman55 at gmail.com  Wed May  8 19:49:21 2024
From: mottman55 at gmail.com (Keith Mott)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 19:49:21 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3
In-Reply-To: <000601daa194$d7ccb5c0$87662140$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000001da94ac$ef5baf60$ce130e20$@alexarevel.plus.com>
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This is a long shot, but is it possible that the piston in your clutch
master cylinder is not retreating far enough to open the vent hole between
the fluid reservoir and cylinder?  When the fluid heats up it expands a
little, if it can't vent to the reservoir it could build up  pressure in
your slave cylinder causing the clutch to slip.  That would explain why you
only get slippage when things heat up.
Keith

On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 4:24?PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

>  Just when you thought it was all over......
> So, thanks for all the replies and advice so far.
> I've only been able to get back to the car in the last few days. Better
> weather and negotiating various domestic hurdles (usual stuff).
> Mindful of specific advice:-
> 1) I swapped the relay for a new one left over from the last bout. The one
> in the car passed the tests but it could have been marginal I suppose.
> 2) I swapped the solenoid for a new one left over from the last bout.
> Ditto above.
> 3) I adjusted the Throttle Switch. God, that's a wretched thing.
> 4) Checked oil, electrics etcetc.
> 5) Pressure good at +/- 520psi
> 6) OD going in & out per usual tests ie when sitting in the garage
> Etcetc
> Took the car out for a longer trip today. Performed very well for about 10
> miles then the slippage(?) started again. Especially on hills.
> Removed the OD's fuse which, I reckon, puts the OD out of the game.
> Symptoms continued.
> Now.....I know and I've experienced low OD pressure. All's well until oil
> warms up and pressure drops. But, now I've supposedly taken the OD out of
> the equation, I'm asking myself, "ODs are effected by their oil's
> temperature but the flywheel/clutch connection is friction. So, it either
> slips or it doesn't ie regardless of temperature."  Is that right???
> Despite that question/worry of mine, I am leaning very much towards clutch
> slip as opposed to OD, which is pretty new don't forget. The slip is pretty
> drastic and seems to have worsened noticeably.
> I'm reluctant to take the box out until I've ruled out a few alternatives.
> If there are any!
> Besides an issue at the clutch plate to flywheel connection, is there
> anything else that can cause this?
> Or are there other areas yet to be explored.
> I really need to get this thing fixed as am hoping to take it over to
> Ireland in July.
> Simon
>
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From craiginchico at gmail.com  Wed May  8 20:28:39 2024
From: craiginchico at gmail.com (Craig Cooper)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 19:28:39 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] RE Alex Manos
Message-ID: <CABWqUym9r64TfK=AqVh9we9mO=WowFVYxA4fnA4CRbLT2oFGRQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'd be happy to get details about the cars and if they aren't for me may be
able to connect you with buyers willing to pay more than a dealer will.
Might be nice to have a chance to get them into the hands of enthusiasts
without them going through a dealer.  craiginchico at gmail.com
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From austin.healey at gmail.com  Thu May  9 07:52:22 2024
From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 23:52:22 +1000
Subject: [Healeys] Wheels loose
In-Reply-To: <15465EC3-5B03-4729-9F83-0576FBBB40C9@yahoo.com>
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Minilites?
How old?
I bought a set and had to have the cone surfaces re machined. 
Clean the cone surfaces and apply engineering blue. 
Knock the wheels on and drive gently around the block. 
Come home and look at the blue. 
Jags etc had a different taper angle. 
I suspect that is your issue. 
It something like ?should be 8 degrees, but it?s 9.5?
But I don?t remember. 
The angle required is in your spinner on the outside, and on your hub on the inside. 
I suspect the angles on your wheel don?t match 


> On 9 May 2024, at 11:09?AM, pieter scheenhouwer via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Gents,
> I have 2 sets of wheels for my BJ7. A set of wires and a set of minilite replicas.
> Recently, I am having trouble getting the front wheels tight enough. It seems the thread on the hub is bottoming out in the spinner before it clamps the wheel properly unless I belt the hell out of it to get it tight enough.
> The hubs and spinners have been on the car for over a decade. Car is a daily driver.
> The obvious fix is to file/machine the end of the hub or replace the spinners.
> Anyone else have this issue before.
> Cheers
> Piet
> Sent from my iPhone
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Thu May  9 08:22:17 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 07:22:17 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Wheels loose
In-Reply-To: <DE9EF574-A9A1-4DE6-87BA-5BCEB7ED8F81@gmail.com>
References: <15465EC3-5B03-4729-9F83-0576FBBB40C9@yahoo.com>
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This is a spitball, but is is possible the threads on either/both the 
spinner and/or hub have deformed/stretched enough to cause the problem? 
I know later cars, like my BJ8, have large, coarse threads whereas 
earlier cars--I don't recall the changeover date--like my BN2 had much 
finer threads. I always wondered why the change was made, could it be 
because the finer threads were 'weaker?'

Bob

On 5/9/2024 6:52 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote:
> Minilites?
> How old?
> I bought a set and had to have the cone surfaces re machined.
> Clean the cone surfaces and apply engineering blue.
> Knock the wheels on and drive gently around the block.
> Come home and look at the blue.
> Jags etc had a different taper angle.
> I suspect that is your issue.
> It something like ?should be 8 degrees, but it?s 9.5?
> But I don?t remember.
> The angle required is in your spinner on the outside, and on your hub on the inside.
> I suspect the angles on your wheel don?t match
>
>
>> On 9 May 2024, at 11:09?AM, pieter scheenhouwer via Healeys<healeys at autox.team.net>  wrote:
>>
>> ?Gents,
>> I have 2 sets of wheels for my BJ7. A set of wires and a set of minilite replicas.
>> Recently, I am having trouble getting the front wheels tight enough. It seems the thread on the hub is bottoming out in the spinner before it clamps the wheel properly unless I belt the hell out of it to get it tight enough.
>> The hubs and spinners have been on the car for over a decade. Car is a daily driver.
>> The obvious fix is to file/machine the end of the hub or replace the spinners.
>> Anyone else have this issue before.
>> Cheers
>> Piet
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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From ryan at jimryan.com  Thu May  9 08:24:50 2024
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 10:24:50 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] RE Alex Manos
In-Reply-To: <CABWqUym9r64TfK=AqVh9we9mO=WowFVYxA4fnA4CRbLT2oFGRQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I second that.  Might be worth the time to put up some pics and details,
and location.  I know somebody that might have an interest.

On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 10:40?PM Craig Cooper <craiginchico at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd be happy to get details about the cars and if they aren't for me may
> be able to connect you with buyers willing to pay more than a dealer will.
> Might be nice to have a chance to get them into the hands of enthusiasts
> without them going through a dealer.  craiginchico at gmail.com
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Thu May  9 10:04:03 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Thu, 09 May 2024 16:04:03 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Fri May 10 06:56:17 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 08:56:17 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Wheels loose
In-Reply-To: <15465EC3-5B03-4729-9F83-0576FBBB40C9@yahoo.com>
References: <15465EC3-5B03-4729-9F83-0576FBBB40C9.ref@yahoo.com>
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I have encountered the same problem with high mileage wheels and splined
hibs.
You can confirm that the spinner is bottoming out by counting the number of
turns until the spinner thread bottoms out with the wheel on and then with
the wheel off.
With those in my case there was significant wear on the taper of both the
wheel (inner) and the hub.
After checking the thickness of the remaining material both on the wheel
and hub tapers I turned about 0.100" off the outer end of the hubs and all
has been well so far. ?

M

On Wed., May 8, 2024, 9:14 p.m. pieter scheenhouwer via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Gents,
> I have 2 sets of wheels for my BJ7. A set of wires and a set of minilite
> replicas.
>  Recently, I am having trouble getting the front wheels tight enough. It
> seems the thread on the hub is bottoming out in the spinner before it
> clamps the wheel properly unless I belt the hell out of it to get it tight
> enough.
> The hubs and spinners have been on the car for over a decade. Car is a
> daily driver.
> The obvious fix is to file/machine the end of the hub or replace the
> spinners.
> Anyone else have this issue before.
> Cheers
> Piet
> Sent from my iPhone
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From sbyers at ec.rr.com  Fri May 10 10:23:58 2024
From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 12:23:58 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Wheels loose
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Message-ID: <00ed01daa2f6$79423e90$6bc6bbb0$@ec.rr.com>

I think it?s a good idea to tighten the knockoffs with the wheel off the ground.   I?ve always done that and have never had a knockoff loosen (I mark small ?witness marks? with paint on the knockoff and the wheel hub to show if the knockoff and wheel are loosening (the marks show relative movement).  They never have so far). 
A friend once complained of a noise from the front of his Healey when we were 3000 miles from home.  I asked if he tightened the knockoffs with the weight off the wheel.  He said he didn?t, but he tightened the loose nut that way and it has never loosened since.
 
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC  USA
 
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2024 8:56 AM
To: pieter scheenhouwer <pieterscheen at yahoo.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheels loose
 
I have encountered the same problem with high mileage wheels and splined hibs. 
You can confirm that the spinner is bottoming out by counting the number of turns until the spinner thread bottoms out with the wheel on and then with the wheel off.
With those in my case there was significant wear on the taper of both the wheel (inner) and the hub. 
After checking the thickness of the remaining material both on the wheel and hub tapers I turned about 0.100" off the outer end of the hubs and all has been well so far. ?
 
M
 
On Wed., May 8, 2024, 9:14 p.m. pieter scheenhouwer via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:
Gents,
I have 2 sets of wheels for my BJ7. A set of wires and a set of minilite replicas.
 Recently, I am having trouble getting the front wheels tight enough. It seems the thread on the hub is bottoming out in the spinner before it clamps the wheel properly unless I belt the hell out of it to get it tight enough.
The hubs and spinners have been on the car for over a decade. Car is a daily driver.
The obvious fix is to file/machine the end of the hub or replace the spinners.
Anyone else have this issue before.
Cheers
Piet
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From pieterscheen at yahoo.com  Fri May 10 18:18:35 2024
From: pieterscheen at yahoo.com (pieter scheenhouwer)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 10:18:35 +1000
Subject: [Healeys] Wheels loose
In-Reply-To: <15465EC3-5B03-4729-9F83-0576FBBB40C9@yahoo.com>
References: <15465EC3-5B03-4729-9F83-0576FBBB40C9@yahoo.com>
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Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I?ve done some investigating and measuring.
Chris, the hub angle on the wires and the minilites is the same and your suggestion on using blue shows even contact
William, the is no obvious wear on the splines and no discernible lash so I don?t think this is the issue.
Roland, threads on the hub look fine, I think your idea that the hubs are softer is the right track.

 Comparing the hubs and in particular the depth of the thread to an old set of possibly original spinners shows the newer ones are approx 1.5 mm shallower.
 I have another set of new spinners that I bought at the same time. Thread depth is the same but they tighten up ok.
 I think that the newer spinners I have just fit when new but a few years of removal and refitting has worn the faces just enough the allow for the tiny bit of play I am experiencing. 
I will fit the brand new spinners and hope they last another decade.
Thanks again
Piet

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> On 9 May 2024, at 11:15, pieter scheenhouwer <pieterscheen at yahoo.com> wrote:
> ?Gents,
> I have 2 sets of wheels for my BJ7. A set of wires and a set of minilite replicas.
> Recently, I am having trouble getting the front wheels tight enough. It seems the thread on the hub is bottoming out in the spinner before it clamps the wheel properly unless I belt the hell out of it to get it tight enough.
> The hubs and spinners have been on the car for over a decade. Car is a daily driver.
> The obvious fix is to file/machine the end of the hub or replace the spinners.
> Anyone else have this issue before.
> Cheers
> Piet
> Sent from my iPhone


From healeymanjim at hansencc.net  Wed May 15 10:52:16 2024
From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 09:52:16 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?electric_fan?=
Message-ID: <20240515165216.39928.qmail@server278.com>

have a hayden 10inch 12volt fan. good condition.  $10 plus shipping.

From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Wed May 15 15:56:09 2024
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 22:56:09 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3, 4,
 5 ad infinitum
In-Reply-To: <8cf41e6c-1700-29ce-6078-b50f1741f751@charter.net>
References: <8cf41e6c-1700-29ce-6078-b50f1741f751@charter.net>
Message-ID: <000001daa712$b2f2afb0$18d80f10$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Hi, Thanks for the input. Frankly, if my Healey was alive, I?d take it to the vet and have it put down!

I did think that swapping the solenoid and relay plus adjusting the throttle switch had fixed it. The car passed a drive around, up and down with harsh acceleration up hills.

So, I put the interior back?.quite a task in itself. Took it out for a pint?back to square one. Slipping.

Stripped it out again and tried for a rational/thorough test?.

1.	Set off with the OD?s operating valve out and the nut replaced by the gauge. As expected a reading of zero on gauge with OD switched on & off. Ran around, up and down for 35 minutes. Quite a hot day. No slippage.
2.	Put the operating valve back. 520+/-psi at the gauge while OD is switched on or off. (Oil now warm). OD seems/sounds as if it?s ?easing in? rather slowly/almost too smoothly with, maybe, slight slip. Fear/presumption being that slippage would get worse as engine got even warmer. Transition looks normal on rev counter. Disengages normally though I need to adjust the throttle switch a bit more.
3.	Inconclusive, except I think I can rule out the clutch at the flywheel. But it leaves a question hanging over the OD which, considering the (Professional) work it?s had recently, should NOT be playing up.
4.	Time to throw in the towel (read oily rag?). Car is up on ramp waiting for me to remove the box.. That is unless one of you guys can come up with a miracle cure overnight! I?m just sick of frigging around and not knowing precisely what?s wrong. I want to take the car over to N.Ireland for a family occasion in July so have decided to do the brute force work myself and have the rest done by experts.

Just thought I?d let you know! Will report back once the box is out and once the OD has been looked at.

Simon

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From jvwojcik at comcast.net  Wed May 15 18:02:37 2024
From: jvwojcik at comcast.net (jvwojcik at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 19:02:37 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3, 4,
 5 ad infinitum
In-Reply-To: <000001daa712$b2f2afb0$18d80f10$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <8cf41e6c-1700-29ce-6078-b50f1741f751@charter.net>
 <000001daa712$b2f2afb0$18d80f10$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <070601daa724$6ac9c400$405d4c00$@comcast.net>

Simon, I remember the demoralizing ache when I had to do these big jobs over and over. Figured it out eventually every time though, and you can?t be far from a solution given your systematic elimination of those gremlins. Good luck on this round, and happy miles to come. Jim
 
 
 
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 4:56 PM
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3, 4, 5 ad infinitum
 
Hi, Thanks for the input. Frankly, if my Healey was alive, I?d take it to the vet and have it put down!
I did think that swapping the solenoid and relay plus adjusting the throttle switch had fixed it. The car passed a drive around, up and down with harsh acceleration up hills.
So, I put the interior back?.quite a task in itself. Took it out for a pint?back to square one. Slipping.
Stripped it out again and tried for a rational/thorough test?.
1.	Set off with the OD?s operating valve out and the nut replaced by the gauge. As expected a reading of zero on gauge with OD switched on & off. Ran around, up and down for 35 minutes. Quite a hot day. No slippage.
2.	Put the operating valve back. 520+/-psi at the gauge while OD is switched on or off. (Oil now warm). OD seems/sounds as if it?s ?easing in? rather slowly/almost too smoothly with, maybe, slight slip. Fear/presumption being that slippage would get worse as engine got even warmer. Transition looks normal on rev counter. Disengages normally though I need to adjust the throttle switch a bit more.
3.	Inconclusive, except I think I can rule out the clutch at the flywheel. But it leaves a question hanging over the OD which, considering the (Professional) work it?s had recently, should NOT be playing up.
4.	Time to throw in the towel (read oily rag?). Car is up on ramp waiting for me to remove the box.. That is unless one of you guys can come up with a miracle cure overnight! I?m just sick of frigging around and not knowing precisely what?s wrong. I want to take the car over to N.Ireland for a family occasion in July so have decided to do the brute force work myself and have the rest done by experts.
Just thought I?d let you know! Will report back once the box is out and once the OD has been looked at.
Simon
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From ryan at jimryan.com  Wed May 15 20:17:26 2024
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 22:17:26 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3, 4,
 5 ad infinitum
In-Reply-To: <070601daa724$6ac9c400$405d4c00$@comcast.net>
References: <8cf41e6c-1700-29ce-6078-b50f1741f751@charter.net>
 <000001daa712$b2f2afb0$18d80f10$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <070601daa724$6ac9c400$405d4c00$@comcast.net>
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God, this brings back memories of my BJ7.  Looking back I wish I gave up
the "hyperspace" feeling of the OD when it rarely worked and put in a 5
speed.

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 8:11?PM <jvwojcik at comcast.net> wrote:

> Simon, I remember the demoralizing ache when I had to do these big jobs
> over and over. Figured it out eventually every time though, and you can?t
> be far from a solution given your systematic elimination of those gremlins.
> Good luck on this round, and happy miles to come. Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Simon
> Lachlan via Healeys
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2024 4:56 PM
> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3, 4, 5 ad
> infinitum
>
>
>
> Hi, Thanks for the input. Frankly, if my Healey was alive, I?d take it to
> the vet and have it put down!
>
> I did think that swapping the solenoid and relay plus adjusting the
> throttle switch had fixed it. The car passed a drive around, up and down
> with harsh acceleration up hills.
>
> So, I put the interior back?.quite a task in itself. Took it out for a
> pint?back to square one. Slipping.
>
> Stripped it out again and tried for a rational/thorough test?.
>
>    1. Set off with the OD?s operating valve out and the nut replaced by
>    the gauge. As expected a reading of zero on gauge with OD switched on &
>    off. Ran around, up and down for 35 minutes. Quite a hot day. No slippage.
>    2. Put the operating valve back. 520+/-psi at the gauge while OD is
>    switched on or off. (Oil now warm). OD seems/sounds as if it?s ?easing in?
>    rather slowly/almost too smoothly with, maybe, slight slip.
>    Fear/presumption being that slippage would get worse as engine got even
>    warmer. Transition looks normal on rev counter. Disengages normally though
>    I need to adjust the throttle switch a bit more.
>    3. Inconclusive, except I think I can rule out the clutch at the
>    flywheel. But it leaves a question hanging over the OD which, considering
>    the (Professional) work it?s had recently, should NOT be playing up.
>    4. Time to throw in the towel (read oily rag?). Car is up on ramp
>    waiting for me to remove the box.. That is unless one of you guys can come
>    up with a miracle cure overnight! I?m just sick of frigging around and not
>    knowing precisely what?s wrong. I want to take the car over to N.Ireland
>    for a family occasion in July so have decided to do the brute force work
>    myself and have the rest done by experts.
>
> Just thought I?d let you know! Will report back once the box is out and
> once the OD has been looked at.
>
> Simon
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From s.hutchings at rogers.com  Tue May 21 12:03:57 2024
From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 14:03:57 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?Non_Healey=E2=80=A6but_Lucas_related?=
References: <1F8FF7E8-B6AF-4C78-8F0B-F55803E0A2A5.ref@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <1F8FF7E8-B6AF-4C78-8F0B-F55803E0A2A5@rogers.com>

Hi Everyone,

I haven?t posted for a while, but that?s good?the car is running as it should!
I?m helping a friend with his series 2 Land Rover, the item of concern being the combination ignition / light switch. I know it was common to a number of British cars, and I know many of you are also into other British marques.
So?does anyone have a link to a good description, and or instructions on diagnosing/ dismantling this switch? I?ve found a few things online, but nothing as good as our trafficator instructions for Healeys, and the other resources on John Sims site.
Thanks,

Stephen, BJ8

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From p.cquinn at outlook.com  Wed May 22 05:31:55 2024
From: p.cquinn at outlook.com (Patrick and Caroline Quinn)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 11:31:55 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?Non_Healey=E2=80=A6but_Lucas_related?=
In-Reply-To: <1F8FF7E8-B6AF-4C78-8F0B-F55803E0A2A5@rogers.com>
References: <1F8FF7E8-B6AF-4C78-8F0B-F55803E0A2A5.ref@rogers.com>
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Message-ID: <OSQPR01MB64306EA4BA13BF006626CD358CEB2@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>

G'day

If you do find one, it would be appreciated if you could list it for everyone.

I have a real Healey that is fitted with one, and will be attending to the diabolical wiring shortly.

Many thanks

Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Stephen Hutchings via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 4:04 AM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Non Healey?but Lucas related

Hi Everyone,

I haven?t posted for a while, but that?s good?the car is running as it should!
I?m helping a friend with his series 2 Land Rover, the item of concern being the combination ignition / light switch. I know it was common to a number of British cars, and I know many of you are also into other British marques.
So?does anyone have a link to a good description, and or instructions on diagnosing/ dismantling this switch? I?ve found a few things online, but nothing as good as our trafficator instructions for Healeys, and the other resources on John Sims site.
Thanks,

Stephen, BJ8

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From rantal243 at yahoo.com  Thu May 23 17:04:30 2024
From: rantal243 at yahoo.com (Richard Antal)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 23:04:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Door closure problem
References: <1953149773.3687920.1716505470085.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1953149773.3687920.1716505470085@mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings all,???? The driver side door on my 65 BJ8 is now suddenly failing to close completely. It closes well enough so that the door wont fly open, but incomplete closure results in dreadful rattling when underway. I'd appreciate any suggestions as to how to correct the problem. The striker plate looks worn no I'll be replacing that. Thanks.
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From sentenac.rw at gmail.com  Thu May 23 20:05:06 2024
From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com (Roland Wilhelmy)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 19:05:06 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Door closure problem
In-Reply-To: <1953149773.3687920.1716505470085@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1953149773.3687920.1716505470085.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1953149773.3687920.1716505470085@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CADpDe+ZcdJsemjcdwS5DJKN7wO6EVB2x-rdrckxfHNDSkq7W3Q@mail.gmail.com>

A sudden failing suggests misadjustment rather than wear.  I'd try
adjusting the striker plate until the door latches fully, then adjusting
until the door alignment matches what it used to be.  You should be able to
get both unless something is keeping the door from closing fully.
-Roland


On Thu, May 23, 2024, 4:48?PM Richard Antal via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Greetings all,
>      The driver side door on my 65 BJ8 is now suddenly failing to close
> completely. It closes well enough so that the door wont fly open, but
> incomplete closure results in dreadful rattling when underway. I'd
> appreciate any suggestions as to how to correct the problem. The striker
> plate looks worn no I'll be replacing that. Thanks.
>
> rich antal
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From drberkowitz at hotmail.com  Fri May 24 05:32:41 2024
From: drberkowitz at hotmail.com (Leonard Berkowitz)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 11:32:41 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Door closure problem
In-Reply-To: <CADpDe+ZcdJsemjcdwS5DJKN7wO6EVB2x-rdrckxfHNDSkq7W3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1953149773.3687920.1716505470085.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1953149773.3687920.1716505470085@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CADpDe+ZcdJsemjcdwS5DJKN7wO6EVB2x-rdrckxfHNDSkq7W3Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Check to make sure your frame isn?t sagging. Remember Healey?s rust.
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Roland Wilhelmy <sentenac.rw at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 10:05 PM
To: Richard Antal <rantal243 at yahoo.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Door closure problem

A sudden failing suggests misadjustment rather than wear.  I'd try adjusting the striker plate until the door latches fully, then adjusting until the door alignment matches what it used to be.  You should be able to get both unless something is keeping the door from closing fully.
-Roland


On Thu, May 23, 2024, 4:48?PM Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Greetings all,
     The driver side door on my 65 BJ8 is now suddenly failing to close completely. It closes well enough so that the door wont fly open, but incomplete closure results in dreadful rattling when underway. I'd appreciate any suggestions as to how to correct the problem. The striker plate looks worn no I'll be replacing that. Thanks.

rich antal
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From ryan at jimryan.com  Fri May 24 07:30:02 2024
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 09:30:02 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] MGB list
Message-ID: <CAEajuYyZ3CpbSF+MzqhKtTg26WiLWmV2cEL__MDoByyFOfyKuw@mail.gmail.com>

All,

Is anybody aware of a list like this for MGB's?  I have a friend that just
bought a '67 B that needs some of the horn bits and can't find them at the
usual sources (Moss, etc).

I don't really know the details of the issue and don't want to drag this
group down that path.

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From shepard7107 at verizon.net  Fri May 24 07:51:06 2024
From: shepard7107 at verizon.net (Michael Shepard)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 13:51:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] MGB list
In-Reply-To: <CAEajuYyZ3CpbSF+MzqhKtTg26WiLWmV2cEL__MDoByyFOfyKuw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <137877274.2103027.1716558666060@mail.yahoo.com>

Here you go:
https://www.mgexp.com/forum/mgb-and-gt-forum.1/


 
  On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 9:37 AM, Jim Ryan<ryan at jimryan.com> wrote:   All,
Is anybody aware of a list like this for MGB's?? I have a friend that just bought a '67 B that needs some of the horn bits and can't find them at the usual sources (Moss, etc).??
I don't really know the details of the issue and don't want to drag this group down that path.

-- 

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????
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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri May 24 08:13:03 2024
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 08:13:03 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] MGB list
In-Reply-To: <CAEajuYyZ3CpbSF+MzqhKtTg26WiLWmV2cEL__MDoByyFOfyKuw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEajuYyZ3CpbSF+MzqhKtTg26WiLWmV2cEL__MDoByyFOfyKuw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ac41313a-a237-4ad5-a514-74c86854bb15@bradakis.com>


autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo should tell you what is available on 
Team Net

mjb.


From rchaskell at earthlink.net  Fri May 24 08:32:17 2024
From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 10:32:17 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] MGB list
In-Reply-To: <137877274.2103027.1716558666060@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAEajuYyZ3CpbSF+MzqhKtTg26WiLWmV2cEL__MDoByyFOfyKuw@mail.gmail.com>
 <137877274.2103027.1716558666060@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ba1d1d56-7e61-4eaf-88ad-314e180a3ed1@earthlink.net>

There's also the MG forum at the British Car Forum 
<https://www.britishcarforum.com/community/>

Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar

On 5/24/24 09:51, Michael Shepard via Healeys wrote:
> Here you go:
>
> https://www.mgexp.com/forum/mgb-and-gt-forum.1/
>
>
>     On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 9:37 AM, Jim Ryan
>     <ryan at jimryan.com> wrote:
>     All,
>
>     Is anybody aware of a list like this for MGB's?? I have a friend
>     that just bought a '67 B that needs some of the horn bits and
>     can't find them at the usual sources (Moss, etc).
>
>     I don't really know the details of the issue and don't want to
>     drag this group down that path.
>
>     -- 
>
>     Jim Ryan
>
>     ????
>
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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Fri May 24 15:18:54 2024
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 14:18:54 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] MGB list
In-Reply-To: <CAEajuYyZ3CpbSF+MzqhKtTg26WiLWmV2cEL__MDoByyFOfyKuw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEajuYyZ3CpbSF+MzqhKtTg26WiLWmV2cEL__MDoByyFOfyKuw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL4ZEOO0p-b-_N-bDQgm4sX+Htj+=0V__1Gg5ddu+E=sHDnFkA@mail.gmail.com>

mgs at autox.team.net

Mike MacLean

On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 6:46?AM Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> Is anybody aware of a list like this for MGB's?  I have a friend that just
> bought a '67 B that needs some of the horn bits and can't find them at the
> usual sources (Moss, etc).
>
> I don't really know the details of the issue and don't want to drag this
> group down that path.
>
> --
>
> Jim Ryan
>
> ????
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
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>
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From craiginchico at gmail.com  Sun May 26 14:01:18 2024
From: craiginchico at gmail.com (Craig Cooper)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2024 13:01:18 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 89
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1716660002.11946.healeys@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.2.1716660002.11946.healeys@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <CABWqUynnFJ3XiLkCSvWRY-_vK=HtK0zyi4W7Ngho5aium_7v9g@mail.gmail.com>

Re: MG List
I'm not aware of a list like this one for MG, but there is an active MG
Experience forum like the Healey Experience.  Lots of support there for B's
plus a "Buy, Sell, Trade" forum.


On Sat, May 25, 2024 at 11:05?AM <healeys-request at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Send Healeys mailing list submissions to
>         healeys at autox.team.net
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>         http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>         healeys-request at autox.team.net
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>         healeys-owner at autox.team.net
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..."
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: MGB list (Michael MacLean)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51 at gmail.com>
> To: Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com>, Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 14:18:54 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] MGB list
> mgs at autox.team.net
>
> Mike MacLean
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 6:46?AM Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Is anybody aware of a list like this for MGB's?  I have a friend that
>> just bought a '67 B that needs some of the horn bits and can't find them at
>> the usual sources (Moss, etc).
>>
>> I don't really know the details of the issue and don't want to drag this
>> group down that path.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jim Ryan
>>
>> ????
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>
>> Healeys at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>
>> Unsubscribe/Manage:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/springer.mike51 at gmail.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Sun May 26 15:22:53 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2024 17:22:53 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 89
In-Reply-To: <CABWqUynnFJ3XiLkCSvWRY-_vK=HtK0zyi4W7Ngho5aium_7v9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.2.1716660002.11946.healeys@autox.team.net>
 <CABWqUynnFJ3XiLkCSvWRY-_vK=HtK0zyi4W7Ngho5aium_7v9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B6WwQbX2GrDCxs3cUF-MjEe2Up2Bm3AyE4j6we5B9Am0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Go here for autox lists and see MG:

http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo

On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 4:25?PM Craig Cooper <craiginchico at gmail.com> wrote:

> Re: MG List
> I'm not aware of a list like this one for MG, but there is an active MG
> Experience forum like the Healey Experience.  Lots of support there for B's
> plus a "Buy, Sell, Trade" forum.
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2024 at 11:05?AM <healeys-request at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Send Healeys mailing list submissions to
>>         healeys at autox.team.net
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>         http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>         healeys-request at autox.team.net
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>         healeys-owner at autox.team.net
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..."
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>    1. Re: MGB list (Michael MacLean)
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51 at gmail.com>
>> To: Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com>, Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 14:18:54 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] MGB list
>> mgs at autox.team.net
>>
>> Mike MacLean
>>
>> On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 6:46?AM Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Is anybody aware of a list like this for MGB's?  I have a friend that
>>> just bought a '67 B that needs some of the horn bits and can't find them at
>>> the usual sources (Moss, etc).
>>>
>>> I don't really know the details of the issue and don't want to drag this
>>> group down that path.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Jim Ryan
>>>
>>> ????
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>>
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>>
>>> Healeys at autox.team.net
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>>
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage:
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/springer.mike51 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Healeys at autox.team.net
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>>
>> archives:  http://autox.team.net/archive
>>
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Fri May 31 04:50:48 2024
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 11:50:48 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3
In-Reply-To: <8cf41e6c-1700-29ce-6078-b50f1741f751@charter.net>
References: <8cf41e6c-1700-29ce-6078-b50f1741f751@charter.net>
Message-ID: <001301dab348$6a98b1a0$3fca14e0$@alexarevel.plus.com>

This is, I truly hope, the final update which you deserve after all your advice.

 

Cross yr fingers and toes but I think it's fixed. Not 100% sure what was wrong but it was like this:- 

1) Removed gearbox. 

2) Inspected release bearing. Still had about 2mm of carbon but ordered new one anyhow. 

3) Removed clutch. Looked good as new, which it is/was virtually. Had my mate at local garage look too. He said it was fine. Had I had it in the right way round? Yes. 

4) As clutch passed visual and road test, slippage was now very likely to be within the driving half of the overdrive as I had +/- 520psi on my gauge. (Dave?s gauge said 550psi)

5) No way was I was taking that half of the OD apart. Arranged to be up at ODSpares by 08:00 for Dave Twigger to dig into it.

6) He said there was some wear in both clutches, "cone" and "uni-directional". He'd replaced them both as silly not to once he'd got that far. He said that he wasn't sure if the wear was sufficient to cause the problem, but that it could. Not v. satisfactory. However, he?s the expert. 

7) Reassembled it all. 

8) So far, on two test runs, it's performed perfectly...??..Frankly, I don't know where I am with the ****** thing. Not sure I trust it.....rather dispiriting actually. If it happens again, the gearbox can go in the attic and I'll look for a Toyota 5 speed! 

Thanks again,

Simon

 

From: Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net> 
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 5:04 PM
To: Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3

 

Simon-it sound to me that your slippage is in your driving clutch.  If OD is in direct and the 8 springs doing their job, the engine clutch is suspect if slipping occurs.  Healeys are known for that issue from the early days of oil on the disc.  In rallies they sprayed the clutch with brake cleaner to stop the slipping.

Then too I remember that you had issues with your pressure plate when replaced...your model had 3 different PPs depending on the year and upgrade and the absolute correct one must be used with the correct gearbox.

 

Slipping when it gets hot (or saturated) in direct drive (or in OD for that matter) indicates engine clutch issues. Hank


-------------------- 

From: "Simon Lachlan via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > 
Reply-To: "Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> > 
Cc: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > 
Sent: May 8, 2024 at 3:31 PM PDT 
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3 
Just when you thought it was all over......
So, thanks for all the replies and advice so far. I've only been able to get back to the car in the last few days. Better weather and negotiating various domestic hurdles (usual stuff). Mindful of specific advice:- 1) I swapped the relay for a new one left over from the last bout. The one in the car passed the tests but it could have been marginal I suppose. 2) I swapped the solenoid for a new one left over from the last bout. Ditto above. 3) I adjusted the Throttle Switch. God, that's a wretched thing. 4) Checked oil, electrics etcetc. 5) Pressure good at +/- 520psi 6) OD going in & out per usual tests ie when sitting in the garage Etcetc Took the car out for a longer trip today. Performed very well for about 10 miles then the slippage(?) started again. Especially on hills. Removed the OD's fuse which, I reckon, puts the OD out of the game. Symptoms continued. Now.....I know and I've experienced low OD pressure. All's well until oil warms up and pressure drops. But, now I've supposedly taken the OD out of the equation, I'm asking myself, "ODs are effected by their oil's temperature but the flywheel/clutch connection is friction. So, it either slips or it doesn't ie regardless of temperature." Is that right??? Despite that question/worry of mine, I am leaning very much towards clutch slip as opposed to OD, which is pretty new don't forget. The slip is pretty drastic and seems to have worsened noticeably. I'm reluctant to take the box out until I've ruled out a few alternatives. If there are any! Besides an issue at the clutch plate to flywheel connection, is there anything else that can cause this? Or are there other areas yet to be explored. I really need to get this thing fixed as am hoping to take it over to Ireland in July. Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>  http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gradea1 at charter.net

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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Fri May 31 05:42:40 2024
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 07:42:40 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3
In-Reply-To: <001301dab348$6a98b1a0$3fca14e0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <8cf41e6c-1700-29ce-6078-b50f1741f751@charter.net>
 <001301dab348$6a98b1a0$3fca14e0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <000701dab34f$a481cfd0$ed856f70$@sympatico.ca>

Fingers crossed for you Simon!

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 6:51 AM
To: gradea1 at charter.net
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3

 

This is, I truly hope, the final update which you deserve after all your advice.

 

Cross yr fingers and toes but I think it's fixed. Not 100% sure what was wrong but it was like this:- 

1) Removed gearbox. 

2) Inspected release bearing. Still had about 2mm of carbon but ordered new one anyhow. 

3) Removed clutch. Looked good as new, which it is/was virtually. Had my mate at local garage look too. He said it was fine. Had I had it in the right way round? Yes. 

4) As clutch passed visual and road test, slippage was now very likely to be within the driving half of the overdrive as I had +/- 520psi on my gauge. (Dave?s gauge said 550psi)

5) No way was I was taking that half of the OD apart. Arranged to be up at ODSpares by 08:00 for Dave Twigger to dig into it.

6) He said there was some wear in both clutches, "cone" and "uni-directional". He'd replaced them both as silly not to once he'd got that far. He said that he wasn't sure if the wear was sufficient to cause the problem, but that it could. Not v. satisfactory. However, he?s the expert. 

7) Reassembled it all. 

8) So far, on two test runs, it's performed perfectly...??..Frankly, I don't know where I am with the ****** thing. Not sure I trust it.....rather dispiriting actually. If it happens again, the gearbox can go in the attic and I'll look for a Toyota 5 speed! 

Thanks again,

Simon

 

From: Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net <mailto:gradea1 at charter.net> > 
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 5:04 PM
To: Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> >
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3

 

Simon-it sound to me that your slippage is in your driving clutch.  If OD is in direct and the 8 springs doing their job, the engine clutch is suspect if slipping occurs.  Healeys are known for that issue from the early days of oil on the disc.  In rallies they sprayed the clutch with brake cleaner to stop the slipping.

Then too I remember that you had issues with your pressure plate when replaced...your model had 3 different PPs depending on the year and upgrade and the absolute correct one must be used with the correct gearbox.

 

Slipping when it gets hot (or saturated) in direct drive (or in OD for that matter) indicates engine clutch issues. Hank


-------------------- 

From: "Simon Lachlan via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > 
Reply-To: "Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> > 
Cc: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > 
Sent: May 8, 2024 at 3:31 PM PDT 
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure or clutch slip Step 3 
Just when you thought it was all over......
So, thanks for all the replies and advice so far. I've only been able to get back to the car in the last few days. Better weather and negotiating various domestic hurdles (usual stuff). Mindful of specific advice:- 1) I swapped the relay for a new one left over from the last bout. The one in the car passed the tests but it could have been marginal I suppose. 2) I swapped the solenoid for a new one left over from the last bout. Ditto above. 3) I adjusted the Throttle Switch. God, that's a wretched thing. 4) Checked oil, electrics etcetc. 5) Pressure good at +/- 520psi 6) OD going in & out per usual tests ie when sitting in the garage Etcetc Took the car out for a longer trip today. Performed very well for about 10 miles then the slippage(?) started again. Especially on hills. Removed the OD's fuse which, I reckon, puts the OD out of the game. Symptoms continued. Now.....I know and I've experienced low OD pressure. All's well until oil warms up and pressure drops. But, now I've supposedly taken the OD out of the equation, I'm asking myself, "ODs are effected by their oil's temperature but the flywheel/clutch connection is friction. So, it either slips or it doesn't ie regardless of temperature." Is that right??? Despite that question/worry of mine, I am leaning very much towards clutch slip as opposed to OD, which is pretty new don't forget. The slip is pretty drastic and seems to have worsened noticeably. I'm reluctant to take the box out until I've ruled out a few alternatives. If there are any! Besides an issue at the clutch plate to flywheel connection, is there anything else that can cause this? Or are there other areas yet to be explored. I really need to get this thing fixed as am hoping to take it over to Ireland in July. Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>  http://autox.teamnet/mailman/listinfo/healeys <http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys>  Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gradea1 at charter.net

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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Fri May 31 07:09:08 2024
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 15:09:08 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] mail
Message-ID: <505d13d7-a5dd-404f-8619-3b399d19d7ab@chello.nl>

It has been months since I received mail from the Healey forum. It 
suddenly started again yesterday.

Cheers,

Kees Oudesluijs

NL


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From airtightproductions at me.com  Fri May 31 08:23:33 2024
From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 14:23:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] mail
In-Reply-To: <505d13d7-a5dd-404f-8619-3b399d19d7ab@chello.nl>
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It's been very "hit and miss" listing/questions postings lately. Maybe everyone is doing well and driving? Steven Kingsbury BN1 On May 31, 2024, at 6:23 AM, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: It has been months since I received mail from the Healey forum. It suddenly started again yesterday. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs NL -- Dit e-mailbericht is met AVG-antivirussoftware gecontroleerd op virussen. www.avg.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com
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