From greylinn at ozemail.com.au  Sat Jun  1 00:45:54 2024
From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (greylinn at ozemail.com.au)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2024 16:45:54 +1000
Subject: [Healeys] mail
In-Reply-To: <505d13d7-a5dd-404f-8619-3b399d19d7ab@chello.nl>
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Same here

Peter Linn

Aus

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Kees Oudesluijs
via Healeys
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 11:09 PM
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Subject: [Healeys] mail

It has been months since I received mail from the Healey forum. It suddenly
started again yesterday.

Cheers,

Kees Oudesluijs

NL


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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Sat Jun  1 19:13:25 2024
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2024 18:13:25 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] website - www.bighealey.org
Message-ID: <172901dab48a$11c28c20$3547a460$@gmail.com>

Is anyone interested in having the domain bighealey.org? if so, please
contact me off list. 

 

It has been poorly maintained for some time, and having sold my Healey I'm
unlikely to pick back up on maintaining it.

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

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From rchaskell at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  2 06:01:22 2024
From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 08:01:22 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] HBN7-LO/3457
Message-ID: <ef7829ee-e98c-4855-86b0-abb0dcab43a3@earthlink.net>

Listers,

I was contacted by the son of a previous owner of this early 3000 MkI.? 
It was owned by his family for 50 years.? His father sold it to a dealer 
in New Holland, Pennsylvania in 2017.? He believes that it moved to 
North Carolina and was going to be restored. The car was originally 
Pacific Green with Grey interior. He would like to know the car's 
current status and possibly get some photos of it.

If you have any info of the car please let me know.? Thanks.

-- 
Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar


From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sun Jun  2 08:25:48 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 10:25:48 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LLcUDgRj+RCjYzNTwyLc4FQOTKKAF5uAPKavcpmqCwv4w@mail.gmail.com>

The thread on the flare nut used to secure the temperature bulb into the
head on later 6 cylinder engines is 5/8" diameter and 16 TPI.
Is this some sort of standard thread or a "special"?
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From manifold at telus.net  Sun Jun  2 09:55:01 2024
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 08:55:01 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys
In-Reply-To: <CAB3i7LLcUDgRj+RCjYzNTwyLc4FQOTKKAF5uAPKavcpmqCwv4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB3i7LLcUDgRj+RCjYzNTwyLc4FQOTKKAF5uAPKavcpmqCwv4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCDWq1YWYe2AROYWXs6jCJ+PePHr=gGkiH3LRBVwwS3=sA@mail.gmail.com>

Michael,

It might be from the 16-UN series of threads. Definitely in the "special"
category. What a surprise! Are you able to measure the thread angle? The
16-UN series is 60 degrees.

[image: 16-UN.JPG]
Harold



On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 7:32?AM Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The thread on the flare nut used to secure the temperature bulb into the
> head on later 6 cylinder engines is 5/8" diameter and 16 TPI.
> Is this some sort of standard thread or a "special"?
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Sun Jun  2 10:40:23 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2024 16:40:23 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Sun Jun  2 10:45:01 2024
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 12:45:01 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys
In-Reply-To: <CAB3i7LLcUDgRj+RCjYzNTwyLc4FQOTKKAF5uAPKavcpmqCwv4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB3i7LLcUDgRj+RCjYzNTwyLc4FQOTKKAF5uAPKavcpmqCwv4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007901dab50c$369bdbf0$a3d393d0$@sympatico.ca>

Bit of a stumper Mike.  Tracy tools, my go-to source for taps and dies, sell a tap that is 5/8?x16 with a ?UNS? thread form https://www.tracytools.com/product/5-8-x-16-tpi

I am unfamiliar with UNS but believe it is the abbreviation for Unified National Special, suggesting it is non-standard thread.  Looks like a bit of a rabbit hole and I am curious to see what others find.

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:26 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys

 

The thread on the flare nut used to secure the temperature bulb into the head on later 6 cylinder engines is 5/8" diameter and 16 TPI.

Is this some sort of standard thread or a "special"?

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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sun Jun  2 11:42:26 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 13:42:26 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys
In-Reply-To: <007901dab50c$369bdbf0$a3d393d0$@sympatico.ca>
References: <CAB3i7LLcUDgRj+RCjYzNTwyLc4FQOTKKAF5uAPKavcpmqCwv4w@mail.gmail.com>
 <007901dab50c$369bdbf0$a3d393d0$@sympatico.ca>
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LKv0x2++K4gz9E1FEMoiZxHtg3nP--Sx6O6tKzAy11Opg@mail.gmail.com>

I don't have a 55 degree 16 TPI thread gauge but my 60 degree seems to be a
very good fit.

On Sun., Jun. 2, 2024, 12:45 p.m. , <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Bit of a stumper Mike.  Tracy tools, my go-to source for taps and dies,
> sell a tap that is 5/8?x16 with a ?UNS? thread form
> https://www.tracytools.com/product/5-8-x-16-tpi
>
> I am unfamiliar with UNS but believe it is the abbreviation for Unified
> National Special, suggesting it is non-standard thread.  Looks like a bit
> of a rabbit hole and I am curious to see what others find.
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Salter
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:26 AM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] One for the thread guys
>
>
>
> The thread on the flare nut used to secure the temperature bulb into the
> head on later 6 cylinder engines is 5/8" diameter and 16 TPI.
>
> Is this some sort of standard thread or a "special"?
>
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun  2 13:13:04 2024
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 12:13:04 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys
In-Reply-To: <CAB3i7LKv0x2++K4gz9E1FEMoiZxHtg3nP--Sx6O6tKzAy11Opg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB3i7LLcUDgRj+RCjYzNTwyLc4FQOTKKAF5uAPKavcpmqCwv4w@mail.gmail.com>
 <007901dab50c$369bdbf0$a3d393d0$@sympatico.ca>
 <CAB3i7LKv0x2++K4gz9E1FEMoiZxHtg3nP--Sx6O6tKzAy11Opg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001f01dab520$e5d5dcb0$b1819610$@sbcglobal.net>

When I rebuilt the engine in my 1962 BT7 I cleaned the threads with a 9/16-18NF tap. When I reinstalled the bulb I used Hylomar, possibly the hardening type, to seal the threads. No leaks.

 

John

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:42 AM
To: Mirek Sharp <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] One for the thread guys

 

I don't have a 55 degree 16 TPI thread gauge but my 60 degree seems to be a very good fit.

 

On Sun., Jun. 2, 2024, 12:45 p.m. , <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca <mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> > wrote:

Bit of a stumper Mike.  Tracy tools, my go-to source for taps and dies, sell a tap that is 5/8?x16 with a ?UNS? thread form https://www.tracytools.com/product/5-8-x-16-tpi

I am unfamiliar with UNS but believe it is the abbreviation for Unified National Special, suggesting it is non-standard thread.  Looks like a bit of a rabbit hole and I am curious to see what others find.

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:26 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys

 

The thread on the flare nut used to secure the temperature bulb into the head on later 6 cylinder engines is 5/8" diameter and 16 TPI.

Is this some sort of standard thread or a "special"?

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From ynotink at msn.com  Sun Jun  2 13:55:16 2024
From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 19:55:16 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys
In-Reply-To: <001f01dab520$e5d5dcb0$b1819610$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <CAB3i7LLcUDgRj+RCjYzNTwyLc4FQOTKKAF5uAPKavcpmqCwv4w@mail.gmail.com>
 <007901dab50c$369bdbf0$a3d393d0$@sympatico.ca>
 <CAB3i7LKv0x2++K4gz9E1FEMoiZxHtg3nP--Sx6O6tKzAy11Opg@mail.gmail.com>
 <001f01dab520$e5d5dcb0$b1819610$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <PH0PR20MB44452E62877487EBB414D588A5FE2@PH0PR20MB4445.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

I believe the ?S? denotes a straight thread as opposed to tapered.
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 7:13 PM
To: 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter at gmail.com>; 'Mirek Sharp' <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] One for the thread guys


When I rebuilt the engine in my 1962 BT7 I cleaned the threads with a 9/16-18NF tap. When I reinstalled the bulb I used Hylomar, possibly the hardening type, to seal the threads. No leaks.



John



From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:42 AM
To: Mirek Sharp <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] One for the thread guys



I don't have a 55 degree 16 TPI thread gauge but my 60 degree seems to be a very good fit.



On Sun., Jun. 2, 2024, 12:45 p.m. , <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca<mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>> wrote:

Bit of a stumper Mike.  Tracy tools, my go-to source for taps and dies, sell a tap that is 5/8?x16 with a ?UNS? thread form https://www.tracytools.com/product/5-8-x-16-tpi

I am unfamiliar with UNS but believe it is the abbreviation for Unified National Special, suggesting it is non-standard thread.  Looks like a bit of a rabbit hole and I am curious to see what others find.



From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:26 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys



The thread on the flare nut used to secure the temperature bulb into the head on later 6 cylinder engines is 5/8" diameter and 16 TPI.

Is this some sort of standard thread or a "special"?
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From ynotink at msn.com  Sun Jun  2 13:57:46 2024
From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 19:57:46 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR20MB44452E62877487EBB414D588A5FE2@PH0PR20MB4445.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAB3i7LLcUDgRj+RCjYzNTwyLc4FQOTKKAF5uAPKavcpmqCwv4w@mail.gmail.com>
 <007901dab50c$369bdbf0$a3d393d0$@sympatico.ca>
 <CAB3i7LKv0x2++K4gz9E1FEMoiZxHtg3nP--Sx6O6tKzAy11Opg@mail.gmail.com>
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However the ?UN? denotes a unified thread which is the same as SAE.
________________________________
From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 7:55 PM
To: John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>; 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter at gmail.com>; 'Mirek Sharp' <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>; John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] One for the thread guys

I believe the ?S? denotes a straight thread as opposed to tapered.
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 7:13 PM
To: 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter at gmail.com>; 'Mirek Sharp' <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] One for the thread guys


When I rebuilt the engine in my 1962 BT7 I cleaned the threads with a 9/16-18NF tap. When I reinstalled the bulb I used Hylomar, possibly the hardening type, to seal the threads. No leaks.



John



From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:42 AM
To: Mirek Sharp <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] One for the thread guys



I don't have a 55 degree 16 TPI thread gauge but my 60 degree seems to be a very good fit.



On Sun., Jun. 2, 2024, 12:45 p.m. , <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca<mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>> wrote:

Bit of a stumper Mike.  Tracy tools, my go-to source for taps and dies, sell a tap that is 5/8?x16 with a ?UNS? thread form https://www.tracytools.com/product/5-8-x-16-tpi

I am unfamiliar with UNS but believe it is the abbreviation for Unified National Special, suggesting it is non-standard thread.  Looks like a bit of a rabbit hole and I am curious to see what others find.



From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:26 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys



The thread on the flare nut used to secure the temperature bulb into the head on later 6 cylinder engines is 5/8" diameter and 16 TPI.

Is this some sort of standard thread or a "special"?
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun  2 15:06:19 2024
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 14:06:19 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR20MB4445A3D9FA6B318C9D3E2467A5FE2@PH0PR20MB4445.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAB3i7LLcUDgRj+RCjYzNTwyLc4FQOTKKAF5uAPKavcpmqCwv4w@mail.gmail.com>
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I read that it is a 5/8 bolt, so I am a little uncertain now. The last time
I replaced the bulb was 11 years ago. Also, I don't recall that there was a
copper washer which would be needed. Could it be a pipe thread?

 

From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE [mailto:ynotink at msn.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 12:58 PM
To: John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>; 'Michael Salter'
<michaelsalter at gmail.com>; 'Mirek Sharp' <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>; John
Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] One for the thread guys

 

However the "UN" denotes a unified thread which is the same as SAE.

  _____  

From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com <mailto:ynotink at msn.com> >
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 7:55 PM
To: John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net
<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >; 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter at gmail.com
<mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> >; 'Mirek Sharp' <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca
<mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> >; John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net
<mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] One for the thread guys 

 

I believe the "S" denotes a straight thread as opposed to tapered.

  _____  

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of John Spaur via
Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 7:13 PM
To: 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter at gmail.com
<mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> >; 'Mirek Sharp' <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca
<mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> >
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
<healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] One for the thread guys 

 

When I rebuilt the engine in my 1962 BT7 I cleaned the threads with a
9/16-18NF tap. When I reinstalled the bulb I used Hylomar, possibly the
hardening type, to seal the threads. No leaks.

 

John

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael
Salter
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:42 AM
To: Mirek Sharp <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca <mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> >
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] One for the thread guys

 

I don't have a 55 degree 16 TPI thread gauge but my 60 degree seems to be a
very good fit.

 

On Sun., Jun. 2, 2024, 12:45 p.m. , <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca
<mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> > wrote:

Bit of a stumper Mike.  Tracy tools, my go-to source for taps and dies, sell
a tap that is 5/8"x16 with a "UNS" thread form
https://www.tracytools.com/product/5-8-x-16-tpi

I am unfamiliar with UNS but believe it is the abbreviation for Unified
National Special, suggesting it is non-standard thread.  Looks like a bit of
a rabbit hole and I am curious to see what others find.

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:26 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Healeys] One for the thread guys

 

The thread on the flare nut used to secure the temperature bulb into the
head on later 6 cylinder engines is 5/8" diameter and 16 TPI.

Is this some sort of standard thread or a "special"?

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From healeyguy at aol.com  Mon Jun  3 07:30:28 2024
From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small)
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 09:30:28 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] AH in new movie
References: <CC2C5BDA-AFE1-4199-82E0-AA09AA636520.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CC2C5BDA-AFE1-4199-82E0-AA09AA636520@aol.com>

Listers 
Saw a couple ads on the TV over the last week for a new movie that features an Austin Healey. Movie called Summer Camp. 
Hope all is well with you folks out there in Healey land!
Perry
Sent from my iPhone

From healey.nut at gmail.com  Wed Jun  5 23:21:18 2024
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 13:21:18 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] Need MkII or MkIII front shroud / clip
Message-ID: <CAFBXTkKk5=OmotJo1HzAmFDg9pwYBruWKjsM9ZikA9T914Ddug@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All -

For my early BJ8 I need a partial or complete front clip of the front
shroud (i.e. the area around the grill opening).

I am okay to look at anything from a complete front shroud to just the
front left quadrant at the very least.

This is for my beloved BJ8.  Any help appreciated!

Cheers,

Alan
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun  6 00:01:38 2024
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 23:01:38 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Need MkII or MkIII front shroud / clip
In-Reply-To: <CAFBXTkKk5=OmotJo1HzAmFDg9pwYBruWKjsM9ZikA9T914Ddug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFBXTkKk5=OmotJo1HzAmFDg9pwYBruWKjsM9ZikA9T914Ddug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004801dab7d6$ffa79cb0$fef6d610$@sbcglobal.net>

AH Spares has an OBP172 and an OBP 173 front section. I installed one on my BT7 10 years ago and it was of excellent quality. Of course, it cost less 1 years ago than now.

 

https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/outer-body-panels/front-shroud-nose-assy-only-1.aspx

 

Cheers,

John

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2024 10:21 PM
To: Healey list <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Need MkII or MkIII front shroud / clip

 

Hi All -

 

For my early BJ8 I need a partial or complete front clip of the front shroud (i.e. the area around the grill opening).

I am okay to look at anything from a complete front shroud to just the front left quadrant at the very least.

This is for my beloved BJ8.  Any help appreciated!

 

Cheers,

Alan

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From goldengt at cal.net  Thu Jun  6 18:34:28 2024
From: goldengt at cal.net (Ken)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 17:34:28 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Need MkII or MkIII front shroud / clip
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We did the new nose from AH SPARES 2 years ago and we're pleased with fit and shape eccept the side lights were about .5 inch off.KenSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com> Date: 6/5/24  10:33 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Healey list <Healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Need MkII or MkIII front shroud / clip Hi All -For my early BJ8 I need a partial or complete front clip of the front shroud (i.e. the area around the grill opening).I am okay to look at anything from a complete front shroud to just the front left quadrant?at the very least.This is for my beloved BJ8.? Any help appreciated!Cheers,Alan
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From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  6 19:12:30 2024
From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron)
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 01:12:30 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Need MkII or MkIII front shroud / clip
In-Reply-To: <4VwMdx6hsyzSySV6@allmail.cal.net>
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Had the same issue with the side lights, reported it to AH Spares and it has since been rectified.

Jean
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Ken via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: June 7, 2024 12:34 AM
To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>; Healey list <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Need MkII or MkIII front shroud / clip

We did the new nose from AH SPARES 2 years ago and we're pleased with fit and shape eccept the side lights were about .5 inch off.
Ken



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>
Date: 6/5/24 10:33 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Healey list <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Need MkII or MkIII front shroud / clip

Hi All -

For my early BJ8 I need a partial or complete front clip of the front shroud (i.e. the area around the grill opening).

I am okay to look at anything from a complete front shroud to just the front left quadrant at the very least.

This is for my beloved BJ8.  Any help appreciated!

Cheers,

Alan
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Tue Jun 18 10:46:15 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 09:46:15 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
Message-ID: <b6b7ed79-561c-4a1c-8bb8-efad65f738d3@comcast.net>

Listers,

I know this one has been discussed--well, beat to death--but it looks 
like I'll have to pull my BJ8's gearbox/OD to replace a leaky front 
seal, so I'm thinking of installing a lightened flywheel while I'm at 
it. My main reason for considering it is to stop some pretty significant 
run-on ('dieseling,' which I get on my BN2 as well). I'm not totally 
comfortable with dropping the clutch in gear to stop it, and any 
performance improvements would be a plus. It just so happens I just 
caught an episode of 'Engine Masters' on MotorTrend TV, where they 
seriously reduced the rotating mass of an engine--an SBC, which is what 
they mostly do--and got some interesting results: more HP and torque, as 
measured on a topnotch dyno. The gains were shown primarily on 
acceleration which, intuitively I suppose, were greater when RPM was 
raised at 300RPM/minute vs. 600. Any constant speed increases weren't 
addressed as far as I could tell.

The late, great Gary Andersen, who raced, said the main benefit was 
faster spin-up for rev-matching downshifts; anyone noted any other 
significant benefits? The 'Dyno Master' on EM said he'd seen timing 
chain failures with lightened flywheels; my main concern for both my 
Healeys has been reliability, with minimal maintenance required, but if 
it stops/minimizes the run-on I'd be happy. Anyone know how far you can 
go lightening without adverse effects?

TIA,
Bob

From gradea1 at charter.net  Tue Jun 18 12:10:50 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 18:10:50 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Tue Jun 18 12:45:36 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 11:45:36 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
In-Reply-To: <c4235624-8a6d-e30d-49ec-334a5aeb2ec9@charter.net>
References: <c4235624-8a6d-e30d-49ec-334a5aeb2ec9@charter.net>
Message-ID: <78b6a648-89ac-44e3-8e5e-6855bbfacce5@comcast.net>

Thanks, Hank. To clarify, the seal I need to replace is at the front of 
the gearbox; i.e. the input shaft seal on my BJ8 gearbox. I'm pretty 
sure that's the source of the leak--disappointing, since the rebuild 
only a few years ago--because it smells like the MT-90 I use in my 
gearboxes (I know, syn leaks, but this box probably has 10K miles on it 
before it erupted). I also spent time and effort sealing the O/D drain, 
since I initially assumed it was the source of the leak. Makes me wonder 
if seal quality has suffered, like a lot of things. Pretty sure I 
checked the input shaft for wear.

I'm about (re-convinced) to forgo a lightened flywheel, since it 
apparently causes no harm (just have to remember to do it). I've heard 
it can actually cause an engine to run backwards, which would be all 
kinds of bad.

bs

On 6/18/2024 11:10 AM, Hank Leach wrote:
> The best way to stop run on is foot on brake, car in gear-It's not 
> hurting anything and is recommended by the likes of Geoff Healey and 
> others. Denotation has a worse effect on the engine.
> The downside of the lightened flywheel is a heavier clutch engagement. 
> That said the heaviest part I ever picked up is a 100 flywheel.? Egad, 
> what a hunk of metal!
> -However the issues with the flywheel/cracked crankshaft can be traced 
> to a lack of a front pulley dampener and that might be the better 
> solution to the issue.? It may in fact make dumping the clutch easier 
> on the drivetrain, but not proven. Since your problem is with the 
> front of the engine, I would address the seal replacement -felt if you 
> are a purest -or yes, the modern solution fancy cover to stop drips on 
> the floor. I collect my Healey oil in a small swimming pool I 
> constructed to hold leaks, while in storage. Then some kerosene 
> quickly cleans up the mess when the car is moved. Since they no longer 
> oil the roadways, think of the benifit you are supplying to the 
> asphalt in longer life. Hank-------------------
>
> From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
> To: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: June 18, 2024 at 10:03 AM PDT
> Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
> Listers,
> I know this one has been discussed--well, beat to death--but it looks 
> like I'll have to pull my BJ8's gearbox/OD to replace a leaky front 
> seal, so I'm thinking of installing a lightened flywheel while I'm at 
> it. My main reason for considering it is to stop some pretty 
> significant run-on ('dieseling,' which I get on my BN2 as well). I'm 
> not totally comfortable with dropping the clutch in gear to stop it, 
> and any performance improvements would be a plus. It just so happens I 
> just caught an episode of 'Engine Masters' on MotorTrend TV, where 
> they seriously reduced the rotating mass of an engine--an SBC, which 
> is what they mostly do--and got some interesting results: more HP and 
> torque, as measured on a topnotch dyno. The gains were shown primarily 
> on acceleration which, intuitively I suppose, were greater when RPM 
> was raised at 300RPM/minute vs. 600. Any constant speed increases 
> weren't addressed as far as I could tell. The late, great Gary 
> Andersen, who raced, said the main benefit was faster spin-up for 
> rev-matching downshifts; anyone noted any other significant benefits? 
> The 'Dyno Master' on EM said he'd seen timing chain failures with 
> lightened flywheels; my main concern for both my Healeys has been 
> reliability, with minimal maintenance required, but if it 
> stops/minimizes the run-on I'd be happy. Anyone know how far you can 
> go lightening without adverse effects? TIA, Bob 
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Tue Jun 18 12:57:12 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 18:57:12 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Tue Jun 18 13:20:15 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 15:20:15 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
In-Reply-To: <c4235624-8a6d-e30d-49ec-334a5aeb2ec9@charter.net>
References: <c4235624-8a6d-e30d-49ec-334a5aeb2ec9@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LL3=Hotr6rfaq_3Xf3t7ujgDeTEdHKH6BY29CHbeGaUfA@mail.gmail.com>

When it comes to flywheel weight the 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder have hugely
different requirements.  The natural balance of the 6 means that there is
much less change in rotational speed during each revolution and with the
crankshaft itself being much heavier the gearbox requires much less
protection.
The type of driving that I do these days does not require "snappy" gear
changes so I would tend to leave the flywheel as designed as I really
appreciate the smoothness of the 6 cylinder engines however, each to his
own.
I  would definitely not lighten a 100 flywheel, particularly a BN1, for
fear of eventually damaging the gearbox for the reasons described in this
article.
https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-100-crank-failures/

M

On Tue., Jun. 18, 2024, 2:48 p.m. Hank Leach via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> The best way to stop run on is foot on brake, car in gear-It's not hurting
> anything and is recommended by the likes of Geoff Healey and others.
> Denotation has a worse effect on the engine.
> The downside of the lightened flywheel is a heavier clutch engagement.
> That said the heaviest part I ever picked up is a 100 flywheel.  Egad, what
> a hunk of metal!
> -However the issues with the flywheel/cracked crankshaft can be traced to
> a lack of a front pulley dampener and that might be the better solution to
> the issue.  It may in fact make dumping the clutch easier on the
> drivetrain, but not proven. Since your problem is with the front of the
> engine, I would address the seal replacement -felt if you are a purest -or
> yes, the modern solution fancy cover to stop drips on the floor. I collect
> my Healey oil in a small swimming pool I constructed to hold leaks, while
> in storage. Then some kerosene quickly cleans up the mess when the car is
> moved. Since they no longer oil the roadways, think of the benifit you are
> supplying to the asphalt in longer life. Hank-------------------
>
> From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
> To: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: June 18, 2024 at 10:03 AM PDT
> Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
> Listers,
> I know this one has been discussed--well, beat to death--but it looks like
> I'll have to pull my BJ8's gearbox/OD to replace a leaky front seal, so I'm
> thinking of installing a lightened flywheel while I'm at it. My main reason
> for considering it is to stop some pretty significant run-on ('dieseling,'
> which I get on my BN2 as well). I'm not totally comfortable with dropping
> the clutch in gear to stop it, and any performance improvements would be a
> plus. It just so happens I just caught an episode of 'Engine Masters' on
> MotorTrend TV, where they seriously reduced the rotating mass of an
> engine--an SBC, which is what they mostly do--and got some interesting
> results: more HP and torque, as measured on a topnotch dyno. The gains were
> shown primarily on acceleration which, intuitively I suppose, were greater
> when RPM was raised at 300RPM/minute vs. 600. Any constant speed increases
> weren't addressed as far as I could tell. The late, great Gary Andersen,
> who raced, said the main benefit was faster spin-up for rev-matching
> downshifts; anyone noted any other significant benefits? The 'Dyno Master'
> on EM said he'd seen timing chain failures with lightened flywheels; my
> main concern for both my Healeys has been reliability, with minimal
> maintenance required, but if it stops/minimizes the run-on I'd be happy.
> Anyone know how far you can go lightening without adverse effects? TIA, Bob
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From reinhart.rosner at aon.at  Tue Jun 18 14:24:24 2024
From: reinhart.rosner at aon.at (Reinhart Rosner)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:24:24 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] *** SPAM *** Re:  Lightened Flywheels
In-Reply-To: <c4235624-8a6d-e30d-49ec-334a5aeb2ec9@charter.net>
References: <c4235624-8a6d-e30d-49ec-334a5aeb2ec9@charter.net>
Message-ID: <044f01dac1bd$85bf2fd0$913d8f70$@aon.at>

Run-on: My mechanic told me to use fuel with 98 octane (instead of 95) and if it still happens to step on the gas pedal when shutting down the engine. This works good for me. 

Reinhart

 

Reinhart Rosner

55 100 BN 1

Vienna - Austria

 

Von: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Hank Leach via Healeys
Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Juni 2024 20:11
An: Bob Spidell; Healeys
Betreff: *** SPAM *** Re: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels

 

The best way to stop run on is foot on brake, car in gear-It's not hurting anything and is recommended by the likes of Geoff Healey and others. Denotation has a worse effect on the engine.

The downside of the lightened flywheel is a heavier clutch engagement. That said the heaviest part I ever picked up is a 100 flywheel.  Egad, what a hunk of metal!
-However the issues with the flywheel/cracked crankshaft can be traced to a lack of a front pulley dampener and that might be the better solution to the issue.  It may in fact make dumping the clutch easier on the drivetrain, but not proven. Since your problem is with the front of the engine, I would address the seal replacement -felt if you are a purest -or yes, the modern solution fancy cover to stop drips on the floor. I collect my Healey oil in a small swimming pool I constructed to hold leaks, while in storage. Then some kerosene quickly cleans up the mess when the car is moved. Since they no longer oil the roadways, think of the benifit you are supplying to the asphalt in longer life. Hank------------------- 

From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net> 
To: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net> 
Sent: June 18, 2024 at 10:03 AM PDT 
Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels 
Listers,
I know this one has been discussed--well, beat to death--but it looks like I'll have to pull my BJ8's gearbox/OD to replace a leaky front seal, so I'm thinking of installing a lightened flywheel while I'm at it. My main reason for considering it is to stop some pretty significant run-on ('dieseling,' which I get on my BN2 as well). I'm not totally comfortable with dropping the clutch in gear to stop it, and any performance improvements would be a plus. It just so happens I just caught an episode of 'Engine Masters' on MotorTrend TV, where they seriously reduced the rotating mass of an engine--an SBC, which is what they mostly do--and got some interesting results: more HP and torque, as measured on a topnotch dyno. The gains were shown primarily on acceleration which, intuitively I suppose, were greater when RPM was raised at 300RPM/minute vs. 600. Any constant speed increases weren't addressed as far as I could tell. The late, great Gary Andersen, who raced, said the main benefit was faster spin-up for rev-matching downshifts; anyone noted any other significant benefits? The 'Dyno Master' on EM said he'd seen timing chain failures with lightened flywheels; my main concern for both my Healeys has been reliability, with minimal maintenance required, but if it stops/minimizes the run-on I'd be happy. Anyone know how far you can go lightening without adverse effects? TIA, Bob 

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From manifold at telus.net  Tue Jun 18 15:07:39 2024
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 14:07:39 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
In-Reply-To: <CAB3i7LL3=Hotr6rfaq_3Xf3t7ujgDeTEdHKH6BY29CHbeGaUfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c4235624-8a6d-e30d-49ec-334a5aeb2ec9@charter.net>
 <CAB3i7LL3=Hotr6rfaq_3Xf3t7ujgDeTEdHKH6BY29CHbeGaUfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCCbBN=bkyuK-oiBipX6WTwBYTwjF8N6hqh9d_cCJs7zgg@mail.gmail.com>

Bob,

I lightened the flywheel on my BT7 with no ill effects. The engine is
responsive and revs smoothly. The Healey's with the spring type clutch like
mine have a heavier flywheel than the later flywheel used with the
diaphragm clutch. To some degree BJ8's already have a lightened flywheel
compared to the earlier 6 cylinder Healey's. Picture of the flywheel is
attached.

I use the technique described by Hank when shutting off the engine and
there is no run on.

Harold

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 1:13?PM Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> When it comes to flywheel weight the 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder have hugely
> different requirements.  The natural balance of the 6 means that there is
> much less change in rotational speed during each revolution and with the
> crankshaft itself being much heavier the gearbox requires much less
> protection.
> The type of driving that I do these days does not require "snappy" gear
> changes so I would tend to leave the flywheel as designed as I really
> appreciate the smoothness of the 6 cylinder engines however, each to his
> own.
> I  would definitely not lighten a 100 flywheel, particularly a BN1, for
> fear of eventually damaging the gearbox for the reasons described in this
> article.
> https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-100-crank-failures/
>
> M
>
> On Tue., Jun. 18, 2024, 2:48 p.m. Hank Leach via Healeys, <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> The best way to stop run on is foot on brake, car in gear-It's not
>> hurting anything and is recommended by the likes of Geoff Healey and
>> others. Denotation has a worse effect on the engine.
>> The downside of the lightened flywheel is a heavier clutch engagement.
>> That said the heaviest part I ever picked up is a 100 flywheel.  Egad, what
>> a hunk of metal!
>> -However the issues with the flywheel/cracked crankshaft can be traced to
>> a lack of a front pulley dampener and that might be the better solution to
>> the issue.  It may in fact make dumping the clutch easier on the
>> drivetrain, but not proven. Since your problem is with the front of the
>> engine, I would address the seal replacement -felt if you are a purest -or
>> yes, the modern solution fancy cover to stop drips on the floor. I collect
>> my Healey oil in a small swimming pool I constructed to hold leaks, while
>> in storage. Then some kerosene quickly cleans up the mess when the car is
>> moved. Since they no longer oil the roadways, think of the benifit you are
>> supplying to the asphalt in longer life. Hank-------------------
>>
>> From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
>> To: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: June 18, 2024 at 10:03 AM PDT
>> Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
>> Listers,
>> I know this one has been discussed--well, beat to death--but it looks
>> like I'll have to pull my BJ8's gearbox/OD to replace a leaky front seal,
>> so I'm thinking of installing a lightened flywheel while I'm at it. My main
>> reason for considering it is to stop some pretty significant run-on
>> ('dieseling,' which I get on my BN2 as well). I'm not totally comfortable
>> with dropping the clutch in gear to stop it, and any performance
>> improvements would be a plus. It just so happens I just caught an episode
>> of 'Engine Masters' on MotorTrend TV, where they seriously reduced the
>> rotating mass of an engine--an SBC, which is what they mostly do--and got
>> some interesting results: more HP and torque, as measured on a topnotch
>> dyno. The gains were shown primarily on acceleration which, intuitively I
>> suppose, were greater when RPM was raised at 300RPM/minute vs. 600. Any
>> constant speed increases weren't addressed as far as I could tell. The
>> late, great Gary Andersen, who raced, said the main benefit was faster
>> spin-up for rev-matching downshifts; anyone noted any other significant
>> benefits? The 'Dyno Master' on EM said he'd seen timing chain failures with
>> lightened flywheels; my main concern for both my Healeys has been
>> reliability, with minimal maintenance required, but if it stops/minimizes
>> the run-on I'd be happy. Anyone know how far you can go lightening without
>> adverse effects? TIA, Bob _______________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 13:54:43 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 98
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Re:  Lightened Flywheels

Hi Bob:  I absolutely love the extra power (perceived or actual) in my
Healeys with light flywheels.  My BN1 has one from DW that weighs about 12
pounds and I'm using DW's damper on the front.  The car has an upgraded
crankshaft and BN7 gearbox, so maybe that's kept it from flying apart.  My
BN7 w/BJ8 cam has an alloy flywheel I got on eBay that I think weighs about
20 pounds.  It runs smooth as silk with no ill effects.  I still can get
occasional run-on though, with lower octane fuel.

On the gearbox oil leaks, check the lower bell housing bolts which, at
least on the side shifts, extend into the gearbox and can leak.  Also,
"Quad Ring" OD operating shaft seals are available from AH Spares, part
0VD185MS.  I haven't tried them yet, but it seems like they would be an
improvement over the single O rings generally used.
OVD185MS

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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net>
> To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>, Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 18:10:50 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
> The best way to stop run on is foot on brake, car in gear-It's not hurting
> anything and is recommended by the likes of Geoff Healey and others.
> Denotation has a worse effect on the engine.
> The downside of the lightened flywheel is a heavier clutch engagement.
> That said the heaviest part I ever picked up is a 100 flywheel.  Egad, what
> a hunk of metal!
> -However the issues with the flywheel/cracked crankshaft can be traced to
> a lack of a front pulley dampener and that might be the better solution to
> the issue.  It may in fact make dumping the clutch easier on the
> drivetrain, but not proven. Since your problem is with the front of the
> engine, I would address the seal replacement -felt if you are a purest -or
> yes, the modern solution fancy cover to stop drips on the floor. I collect
> my Healey oil in a small swimming pool I constructed to hold leaks, while
> in storage. Then some kerosene quickly cleans up the mess when the car is
> moved. Since they no longer oil the roadways, think of the benifit you are
> supplying to the asphalt in longer life. Hank-------------------
>
> From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
> To: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: June 18, 2024 at 10:03 AM PDT
> Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
> Listers,
> I know this one has been discussed--well, beat to death--but it looks like
> I'll have to pull my BJ8's gearbox/OD to replace a leaky front seal, so I'm
> thinking of installing a lightened flywheel while I'm at it. My main reason
> for considering it is to stop some pretty significant run-on ('dieseling,'
> which I get on my BN2 as well). I'm not totally comfortable with dropping
> the clutch in gear to stop it, and any performance improvements would be a
> plus. It just so happens I just caught an episode of 'Engine Masters' on
> MotorTrend TV, where they seriously reduced the rotating mass of an
> engine--an SBC, which is what they mostly do--and got some interesting
> results: more HP and torque, as measured on a topnotch dyno. The gains were
> shown primarily on acceleration which, intuitively I suppose, were greater
> when RPM was raised at 300RPM/minute vs. 600. Any constant speed increases
> weren't addressed as far as I could tell. The late, great Gary Andersen,
> who raced, said the main benefit was faster spin-up for rev-matching
> downshifts; anyone noted any other significant benefits? The 'Dyno Master'
> on EM said he'd seen timing chain failures with lightened flywheels; my
> main concern for both my Healeys has been reliability, with minimal
> maintenance required, but if it stops/minimizes the run-on I'd be happy.
> Anyone know how far you can go lightening without adverse effects? TIA, Bob
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> To: gradea1 at charter.net, Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 11:45:36 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
> Thanks, Hank. To clarify, the seal I need to replace is at the front of
> the gearbox; i.e. the input shaft seal on my BJ8 gearbox. I'm pretty
> sure that's the source of the leak--disappointing, since the rebuild
> only a few years ago--because it smells like the MT-90 I use in my
> gearboxes (I know, syn leaks, but this box probably has 10K miles on it
> before it erupted). I also spent time and effort sealing the O/D drain,
> since I initially assumed it was the source of the leak. Makes me wonder
> if seal quality has suffered, like a lot of things. Pretty sure I
> checked the input shaft for wear.
>
> I'm about (re-convinced) to forgo a lightened flywheel, since it
> apparently causes no harm (just have to remember to do it). I've heard
> it can actually cause an engine to run backwards, which would be all
> kinds of bad.
>
> bs
>
> On 6/18/2024 11:10 AM, Hank Leach wrote:
> > The best way to stop run on is foot on brake, car in gear-It's not
> > hurting anything and is recommended by the likes of Geoff Healey and
> > others. Denotation has a worse effect on the engine.
> > The downside of the lightened flywheel is a heavier clutch engagement.
> > That said the heaviest part I ever picked up is a 100 flywheel.  Egad,
> > what a hunk of metal!
> > -However the issues with the flywheel/cracked crankshaft can be traced
> > to a lack of a front pulley dampener and that might be the better
> > solution to the issue.  It may in fact make dumping the clutch easier
> > on the drivetrain, but not proven. Since your problem is with the
> > front of the engine, I would address the seal replacement -felt if you
> > are a purest -or yes, the modern solution fancy cover to stop drips on
> > the floor. I collect my Healey oil in a small swimming pool I
> > constructed to hold leaks, while in storage. Then some kerosene
> > quickly cleans up the mess when the car is moved. Since they no longer
> > oil the roadways, think of the benifit you are supplying to the
> > asphalt in longer life. Hank-------------------
> >
> > From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
> > To: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: June 18, 2024 at 10:03 AM PDT
> > Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
> > Listers,
> > I know this one has been discussed--well, beat to death--but it looks
> > like I'll have to pull my BJ8's gearbox/OD to replace a leaky front
> > seal, so I'm thinking of installing a lightened flywheel while I'm at
> > it. My main reason for considering it is to stop some pretty
> > significant run-on ('dieseling,' which I get on my BN2 as well). I'm
> > not totally comfortable with dropping the clutch in gear to stop it,
> > and any performance improvements would be a plus. It just so happens I
> > just caught an episode of 'Engine Masters' on MotorTrend TV, where
> > they seriously reduced the rotating mass of an engine--an SBC, which
> > is what they mostly do--and got some interesting results: more HP and
> > torque, as measured on a topnotch dyno. The gains were shown primarily
> > on acceleration which, intuitively I suppose, were greater when RPM
> > was raised at 300RPM/minute vs. 600. Any constant speed increases
> > weren't addressed as far as I could tell. The late, great Gary
> > Andersen, who raced, said the main benefit was faster spin-up for
> > rev-matching downshifts; anyone noted any other significant benefits?
> > The 'Dyno Master' on EM said he'd seen timing chain failures with
> > lightened flywheels; my main concern for both my Healeys has been
> > reliability, with minimal maintenance required, but if it
> > stops/minimizes the run-on I'd be happy. Anyone know how far you can
> > go lightening without adverse effects? TIA, Bob
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net>
> To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>, Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 18:57:12 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
> OK BJ8 issue...that is a lighter flywheel.  I still recommend dumping the
> clutch to stop any run-on. Might check your timing with a light and set it
> to 17 degrees to compensate for the lousy fuel we get today. That appears
> to tbe the magic number for most of the old British iron- used to 95+
> octane fuels. When those cars were built there was no corn in the fuel. Sad
> that many of our classics are now running on volts and amps.
> An aside-on the old 100 gearbox, with just rifling for a seal, I add an
> o-ring to the input shaft to "contain the spinout. Hank
> --------------------
>
> From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
> To: <gradea1 at charter.net>, "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: June 18, 2024 at 11:46 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
> Thanks, Hank. To clarify, the seal I need to replace is at the front of
> the gearbox; i.e. the input shaft seal on my BJ8 gearbox. I'm pretty sure
> that's the source of the leak--disappointing, since the rebuild only a few
> years ago--because it smells like the MT-90 I use in my gearboxes (I know,
> syn leaks, but this box probably has 10K miles on it before it erupted). I
> also spent time and effort sealing the O/D drain, since I initially assumed
> it was the source of the leak. Makes me wonder if seal quality has
> suffered, like a lot of things. Pretty sure I checked the input shaft for
> wear.
> I'm about (re-convinced) to forgo a lightened flywheel, since it
> apparently causes no harm (just have to remember to do it). I've heard it
> can actually cause an engine to run backwards, which would be all kinds of
> bad. bs On 6/18/2024 11:10 AM, Hank Leach wrote: > The best way to stop run
> on is foot on brake, car in gear-It's not > hurting anything and is
> recommended by the likes of Geoff Healey and > others. Denotation has a
> worse effect on the engine. > The downside of the lightened flywheel is a
> heavier clutch engagement. > That said the heaviest part I ever picked up
> is a 100 flywheel.  Egad, > what a hunk of metal! > -However the issues
> with the flywheel/cracked crankshaft can be traced > to a lack of a front
> pulley dampener and that might be the better > solution to the issue.  It
> may in fact make dumping the clutch easier > on the drivetrain, but not
> proven. Since your problem is with the > front of the engine, I would
> address the seal replacement -felt if you > are a purest -or yes, the
> modern solution fancy cover to stop drips on > the floor. I collect my
> Healey oil in a small swimming pool I > constructed to hold leaks, while in
> storage. Then some kerosene > quickly cleans up the mess when the car is
> moved. Since they no longer > oil the roadways, think of the benifit you
> are supplying to the > asphalt in longer life. Hank------------------- > >
> From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net> > To: "Healeys" <
> healeys at autox.team.net> > Sent: June 18, 2024 at 10:03 AM PDT > Subject:
> [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels > Listers, > I know this one has been
> discussed--well, beat to death--but it looks > like I'll have to pull my
> BJ8's gearbox/OD to replace a leaky front > seal, so I'm thinking of
> installing a lightened flywheel while I'm at > it. My main reason for
> considering it is to stop some pretty > significant run-on ('dieseling,'
> which I get on my BN2 as well). I'm > not totally comfortable with dropping
> the clutch in gear to stop it, > and any performance improvements would be
> a plus. It just so happens I > just caught an episode of 'Engine Masters'
> on MotorTrend TV, where > they seriously reduced the rotating mass of an
> engine--an SBC, which > is what they mostly do--and got some interesting
> results: more HP and > torque, as measured on a topnotch dyno. The gains
> were shown primarily > on acceleration which, intuitively I suppose, were
> greater when RPM > was raised at 300RPM/minute vs. 600. Any constant speed
> increases > weren't addressed as far as I could tell. The late, great Gary
> > Andersen, who raced, said the main benefit was faster spin-up for >
> rev-matching downshifts; anyone noted any other significant benefits? > The
> 'Dyno Master' on EM said he'd seen timing chain failures with > lightened
> flywheels; my main concern for both my Healeys has been > reliability, with
> minimal maintenance required, but if it > stops/minimizes the run-on I'd be
> happy. Anyone know how far you can > go lightening without adverse effects?
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> To: Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net>
> Cc: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>, Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 15:20:15 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
> When it comes to flywheel weight the 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder have hugely
> different requirements.  The natural balance of the 6 means that there is
> much less change in rotational speed during each revolution and with the
> crankshaft itself being much heavier the gearbox requires much less
> protection.
> The type of driving that I do these days does not require "snappy" gear
> changes so I would tend to leave the flywheel as designed as I really
> appreciate the smoothness of the 6 cylinder engines however, each to his
> own.
> I  would definitely not lighten a 100 flywheel, particularly a BN1, for
> fear of eventually damaging the gearbox for the reasons described in this
> article.
> https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-100-crank-failures/
>
> M
>
> On Tue., Jun. 18, 2024, 2:48 p.m. Hank Leach via Healeys, <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> The best way to stop run on is foot on brake, car in gear-It's not
>> hurting anything and is recommended by the likes of Geoff Healey and
>> others. Denotation has a worse effect on the engine.
>> The downside of the lightened flywheel is a heavier clutch engagement.
>> That said the heaviest part I ever picked up is a 100 flywheel.  Egad, what
>> a hunk of metal!
>> -However the issues with the flywheel/cracked crankshaft can be traced to
>> a lack of a front pulley dampener and that might be the better solution to
>> the issue.  It may in fact make dumping the clutch easier on the
>> drivetrain, but not proven. Since your problem is with the front of the
>> engine, I would address the seal replacement -felt if you are a purest -or
>> yes, the modern solution fancy cover to stop drips on the floor. I collect
>> my Healey oil in a small swimming pool I constructed to hold leaks, while
>> in storage. Then some kerosene quickly cleans up the mess when the car is
>> moved. Since they no longer oil the roadways, think of the benifit you are
>> supplying to the asphalt in longer life. Hank-------------------
>>
>> From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
>> To: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: June 18, 2024 at 10:03 AM PDT
>> Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
>> Listers,
>> I know this one has been discussed--well, beat to death--but it looks
>> like I'll have to pull my BJ8's gearbox/OD to replace a leaky front seal,
>> so I'm thinking of installing a lightened flywheel while I'm at it. My main
>> reason for considering it is to stop some pretty significant run-on
>> ('dieseling,' which I get on my BN2 as well). I'm not totally comfortable
>> with dropping the clutch in gear to stop it, and any performance
>> improvements would be a plus. It just so happens I just caught an episode
>> of 'Engine Masters' on MotorTrend TV, where they seriously reduced the
>> rotating mass of an engine--an SBC, which is what they mostly do--and got
>> some interesting results: more HP and torque, as measured on a topnotch
>> dyno. The gains were shown primarily on acceleration which, intuitively I
>> suppose, were greater when RPM was raised at 300RPM/minute vs. 600. Any
>> constant speed increases weren't addressed as far as I could tell. The
>> late, great Gary Andersen, who raced, said the main benefit was faster
>> spin-up for rev-matching downshifts; anyone noted any other significant
>> benefits? The 'Dyno Master' on EM said he'd seen timing chain failures with
>> lightened flywheels; my main concern for both my Healeys has been
>> reliability, with minimal maintenance required, but if it stops/minimizes
>> the run-on I'd be happy. Anyone know how far you can go lightening without
>> adverse effects? TIA, Bob _______________________________________________
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Reinhart Rosner <reinhart.rosner at aon.at>
> To: <gradea1 at charter.net>, "'Bob Spidell'" <bspidell at comcast.net>, <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:24:24 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] *** SPAM *** Re:  Lightened Flywheels
>
> Run-on: My mechanic told me to use fuel with 98 octane (instead of 95) and
> if it still happens to step on the gas pedal when shutting down the engine.
> This works good for me.
>
> Reinhart
>
>
>
> Reinhart Rosner
>
> 55 100 BN 1
>
> Vienna - Austria
>
>
>
> *Von:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *Im Auftrag von *Hank
> Leach via Healeys
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 18. Juni 2024 20:11
> *An:* Bob Spidell; Healeys
> *Betreff:* *** SPAM *** Re: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
>
>
>
> The best way to stop run on is foot on brake, car in gear-It's not hurting
> anything and is recommended by the likes of Geoff Healey and others.
> Denotation has a worse effect on the engine.
>
> The downside of the lightened flywheel is a heavier clutch engagement.
> That said the heaviest part I ever picked up is a 100 flywheel.  Egad, what
> a hunk of metal!
> -However the issues with the flywheel/cracked crankshaft can be traced to
> a lack of a front pulley dampener and that might be the better solution to
> the issue.  It may in fact make dumping the clutch easier on the
> drivetrain, but not proven. Since your problem is with the front of the
> engine, I would address the seal replacement -felt if you are a purest -or
> yes, the modern solution fancy cover to stop drips on the floor. I collect
> my Healey oil in a small swimming pool I constructed to hold leaks, while
> in storage. Then some kerosene quickly cleans up the mess when the car is
> moved. Since they no longer oil the roadways, think of the benifit you are
> supplying to the asphalt in longer life. Hank-------------------
>
> From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
> To: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: June 18, 2024 at 10:03 AM PDT
> Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
> Listers,
> I know this one has been discussed--well, beat to death--but it looks like
> I'll have to pull my BJ8's gearbox/OD to replace a leaky front seal, so I'm
> thinking of installing a lightened flywheel while I'm at it. My main reason
> for considering it is to stop some pretty significant run-on ('dieseling,'
> which I get on my BN2 as well). I'm not totally comfortable with dropping
> the clutch in gear to stop it, and any performance improvements would be a
> plus. It just so happens I just caught an episode of 'Engine Masters' on
> MotorTrend TV, where they seriously reduced the rotating mass of an
> engine--an SBC, which is what they mostly do--and got some interesting
> results: more HP and torque, as measured on a topnotch dyno. The gains were
> shown primarily on acceleration which, intuitively I suppose, were greater
> when RPM was raised at 300RPM/minute vs. 600. Any constant speed increases
> weren't addressed as far as I could tell. The late, great Gary Andersen,
> who raced, said the main benefit was faster spin-up for rev-matching
> downshifts; anyone noted any other significant benefits? The 'Dyno Master'
> on EM said he'd seen timing chain failures with lightened flywheels; my
> main concern for both my Healeys has been reliability, with minimal
> maintenance required, but if it stops/minimizes the run-on I'd be happy.
> Anyone know how far you can go lightening without adverse effects? TIA, Bob
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
> To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> Cc: Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net>, Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 14:07:39 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
> Bob,
>
> I lightened the flywheel on my BT7 with no ill effects. The engine is
> responsive and revs smoothly. The Healey's with the spring type clutch like
> mine have a heavier flywheel than the later flywheel used with the
> diaphragm clutch. To some degree BJ8's already have a lightened flywheel
> compared to the earlier 6 cylinder Healey's. Picture of the flywheel is
> attached.
>
> I use the technique described by Hank when shutting off the engine and
> there is no run on.
>
> Harold
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 1:13?PM Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> When it comes to flywheel weight the 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder have
>> hugely different requirements.  The natural balance of the 6 means that
>> there is much less change in rotational speed during each revolution and
>> with the crankshaft itself being much heavier the gearbox requires much
>> less protection.
>> The type of driving that I do these days does not require "snappy" gear
>> changes so I would tend to leave the flywheel as designed as I really
>> appreciate the smoothness of the 6 cylinder engines however, each to his
>> own.
>> I  would definitely not lighten a 100 flywheel, particularly a BN1, for
>> fear of eventually damaging the gearbox for the reasons described in this
>> article.
>> https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-100-crank-failures/
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Tue., Jun. 18, 2024, 2:48 p.m. Hank Leach via Healeys, <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The best way to stop run on is foot on brake, car in gear-It's not
>>> hurting anything and is recommended by the likes of Geoff Healey and
>>> others. Denotation has a worse effect on the engine.
>>> The downside of the lightened flywheel is a heavier clutch engagement.
>>> That said the heaviest part I ever picked up is a 100 flywheel.  Egad, what
>>> a hunk of metal!
>>> -However the issues with the flywheel/cracked crankshaft can be traced
>>> to a lack of a front pulley dampener and that might be the better solution
>>> to the issue.  It may in fact make dumping the clutch easier on the
>>> drivetrain, but not proven. Since your problem is with the front of the
>>> engine, I would address the seal replacement -felt if you are a purest -or
>>> yes, the modern solution fancy cover to stop drips on the floor. I collect
>>> my Healey oil in a small swimming pool I constructed to hold leaks, while
>>> in storage. Then some kerosene quickly cleans up the mess when the car is
>>> moved. Since they no longer oil the roadways, think of the benifit you are
>>> supplying to the asphalt in longer life. Hank-------------------
>>>
>>> From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
>>> To: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: June 18, 2024 at 10:03 AM PDT
>>> Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheels
>>> Listers,
>>> I know this one has been discussed--well, beat to death--but it looks
>>> like I'll have to pull my BJ8's gearbox/OD to replace a leaky front seal,
>>> so I'm thinking of installing a lightened flywheel while I'm at it. My main
>>> reason for considering it is to stop some pretty significant run-on
>>> ('dieseling,' which I get on my BN2 as well). I'm not totally comfortable
>>> with dropping the clutch in gear to stop it, and any performance
>>> improvements would be a plus. It just so happens I just caught an episode
>>> of 'Engine Masters' on MotorTrend TV, where they seriously reduced the
>>> rotating mass of an engine--an SBC, which is what they mostly do--and got
>>> some interesting results: more HP and torque, as measured on a topnotch
>>> dyno. The gains were shown primarily on acceleration which, intuitively I
>>> suppose, were greater when RPM was raised at 300RPM/minute vs. 600. Any
>>> constant speed increases weren't addressed as far as I could tell. The
>>> late, great Gary Andersen, who raced, said the main benefit was faster
>>> spin-up for rev-matching downshifts; anyone noted any other significant
>>> benefits? The 'Dyno Master' on EM said he'd seen timing chain failures with
>>> lightened flywheels; my main concern for both my Healeys has been
>>> reliability, with minimal maintenance required, but if it stops/minimizes
>>> the run-on I'd be happy. Anyone know how far you can go lightening without
>>> adverse effects? TIA, Bob _______________________________________________
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Thu Jun 20 08:29:54 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 07:29:54 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 98
In-Reply-To: <CABWqUy=reVdkXcLZk0wWW5DPpb2x6Rtb691CamOdOMO1mE=-uQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.0.1718820002.29044.healeys@autox.team.net>
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Message-ID: <62bcc144-22af-4a4d-a3cd-2ca9d29bc744@comcast.net>

Thanks for the input Craig. I'm still debating the flywheel; hopefully, 
my path will be apparent when I get the box out.

I'll be checking the bell housing bolts, and the input shaft for wear. I 
already have the OD operating shaft 'quad rings,' I got them as soon as 
I saw Roger Moment's article (long story about the seller).

Bob

On 6/19/2024 1:54 PM, Craig Cooper wrote:
> Re: Lightened Flywheels
>
> Hi Bob:? I absolutely love the extra power (perceived or actual) in my 
> Healeys with light flywheels.? My BN1 has one from DW that weighs 
> about 12 pounds and I'm using DW's damper on the front.? The car has 
> an upgraded crankshaft and BN7 gearbox, so maybe that's kept it from 
> flying apart.? My BN7 w/BJ8 cam has an alloy flywheel I got on eBay 
> that I think weighs about 20 pounds.? It runs smooth as?silk with no 
> ill effects.? I still can get occasional run-on though, with lower 
> octane fuel.
>
> On the gearbox oil leaks, check the lower bell housing bolts which, at 
> least on the side shifts, extend into the gearbox and can leak.? Also, 
> "Quad Ring" OD operating shaft seals are available from AH Spares, 
> part 0VD185MS.? I haven't tried them yet, but it seems like they would 
> be an improvement over the single O rings generally used.
> OVD185MS
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Thu Jun 20 09:57:26 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 15:57:26 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 98
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 20 10:11:40 2024
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 09:11:40 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger
Message-ID: <F18A6688-29D3-48F5-8E13-4E2AF4F67BE8@gmail.com>

Just saw this article in the latest issue of Hemmings.


?



Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



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From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 20 11:19:04 2024
From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 17:19:04 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 98
In-Reply-To: <513f8bd8-346e-6179-109f-004eb9d9316f@charter.net>
References: <513f8bd8-346e-6179-109f-004eb9d9316f@charter.net>
Message-ID: <DS7PR11MB6078F016518564E3A92E4409D1C82@DS7PR11MB6078.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

There is a quad ring substitute made by Sterling Seal & Supply that work and last far better than O-Rings,  they are called  Buna Quad seals and their part number is Q-109-7470, see page 330 of the latest book by Roger Moment.

Jean

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network.
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2024 10:57:26 AM
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>; healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 98

Yes, the OD cross shaft seals have been an issue for sometime and some suppliers sold just o-rings as a solution which were less than adequate. The actual double lipped seal is best needed to keep from leaking-two o'rings made the shaft/solenoid work harder. If you want to keep leaks to a minimum these seals are the best choice. The intimating part of the replacement was to drive out the tapered pin which could be difficult. When doing the lever side I put the 3/16" drill bit in the OD setting hole before driving out the pin. Check carefully for taper before driving it out the wrong way. You will be glad you fixed these two leaking ends. Hank
--------------------

From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: June 20, 2024 at 7:47 AM PDT
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 98
Thanks for the input Craig. I'm still debating the flywheel; hopefully, my path will be apparent when I get the box out.

I'll be checking the bell housing bolts, and the input shaft for wear. I already have the OD operating shaft 'quad rings,' I got them as soon as I saw Roger Moment's article (long story about the seller).

Bob

On 6/19/2024 1:54 PM, Craig Cooper wrote:
Re:  Lightened Flywheels

Hi Bob:  I absolutely love the extra power (perceived or actual) in my Healeys with light flywheels.  My BN1 has one from DW that weighs about 12 pounds and I'm using DW's damper on the front.  The car has an upgraded crankshaft and BN7 gearbox, so maybe that's kept it from flying apart.  My BN7 w/BJ8 cam has an alloy flywheel I got on eBay that I think weighs about 20 pounds.  It runs smooth as silk with no ill effects.  I still can get occasional run-on though, with lower octane fuel.

On the gearbox oil leaks, check the lower bell housing bolts which, at least on the side shifts, extend into the gearbox and can leak.  Also, "Quad Ring" OD operating shaft seals are available from AH Spares, part 0VD185MS.  I haven't tried them yet, but it seems like they would be an improvement over the single O rings generally used.
OVD185MS


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From warthodson at aol.com  Thu Jun 20 12:49:17 2024
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 18:49:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 98
In-Reply-To: <513f8bd8-346e-6179-109f-004eb9d9316f@charter.net>
References: <513f8bd8-346e-6179-109f-004eb9d9316f@charter.net>
Message-ID: <733927996.7057241.1718909357704@mail.yahoo.com>

 Is there a source for the double lip seals? It is my understanding that these seals can be replaced without disassembling the OD to get inside it. Am I correct?Gary
    On Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 11:27:44 AM CDT, Hank Leach via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:   

 Yes, the OD cross shaft seals have been an issue for sometime and some suppliers sold just o-rings as a solution which were less than adequate. The actual double lipped seal is best needed to keep from leaking-two o'rings made the shaft/solenoid work harder. If you want to keep leaks to a minimum these seals are the best choice. The intimating part of the replacement was to drive out the tapered pin which could be difficult. When doing the lever side I put the 3/16" drill bit in the OD setting hole before driving out the pin. Check carefully for taper before driving it out the wrong way. You will be glad you fixed these two leaking ends. Hank
-------------------- 

From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net> 
To: <healeys at autox.team.net> 
Sent: June 20, 2024 at 7:47 AM PDT 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 98 
Thanks for the input Craig. I'm still debating the flywheel; hopefully, my path will be apparent when I get the box out.

I'll be checking the bell housing bolts, and the input shaft for wear. I already have the OD operating shaft 'quad rings,' I got them as soon as I saw Roger Moment's article (long story about the seller).

Bob

On 6/19/2024 1:54 PM, Craig Cooper wrote:
Re:? Lightened Flywheels?Hi Bob:? I absolutely love the extra power (perceived or actual) in my Healeys with light flywheels.? My BN1 has one from DW that weighs about 12 pounds and I'm using DW's damper on the front.? The car has an upgraded crankshaft and BN7 gearbox, so maybe that's kept it from flying apart.? My BN7 w/BJ8 cam has an alloy flywheel I got on eBay that I think weighs about 20 pounds.? It runs smooth as?silk with no ill effects.? I still can get occasional run-on though, with lower octane fuel.??On the gearbox oil leaks, check the lower bell housing bolts which, at least on the side shifts, extend into the gearbox and can leak.? Also, "Quad Ring" OD operating shaft seals are available from AH Spares, part 0VD185MS.? I haven't tried them yet, but it seems like they would be an improvement over the single O rings generally used.??OVD185MS 


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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 20 12:49:12 2024
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 11:49:12 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 98
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Bob,

I installed a Denis Welch lightened flywheel in my 1962 BT7 back in 2013. Overall, I like it but there is one small issue. If you stop on a steep incline, you may not be able to continue up the hill without backing down and getting a running start. That happened to me early on when I was driving around on some back roads in the Santa Cruz mountains. I never experienced that problem with the factory flywheel.

 

John

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2024 7:30 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 98

 

Thanks for the input Craig. I'm still debating the flywheel; hopefully, my path will be apparent when I get the box out.

I'll be checking the bell housing bolts, and the input shaft for wear. I already have the OD operating shaft 'quad rings,' I got them as soon as I saw Roger Moment's article (long story about the seller).

Bob

On 6/19/2024 1:54 PM, Craig Cooper wrote:

Re:  Lightened Flywheels

 

Hi Bob:  I absolutely love the extra power (perceived or actual) in my Healeys with light flywheels.  My BN1 has one from DW that weighs about 12 pounds and I'm using DW's damper on the front.  The car has an upgraded crankshaft and BN7 gearbox, so maybe that's kept it from flying apart.  My BN7 w/BJ8 cam has an alloy flywheel I got on eBay that I think weighs about 20 pounds.  It runs smooth as silk with no ill effects.  I still can get occasional run-on though, with lower octane fuel. 

 

On the gearbox oil leaks, check the lower bell housing bolts which, at least on the side shifts, extend into the gearbox and can leak.  Also, "Quad Ring" OD operating shaft seals are available from AH Spares, part 0VD185MS.  I haven't tried them yet, but it seems like they would be an improvement over the single O rings generally used.  

OVD185MS

 

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From bspidell at comcast.net  Thu Jun 20 20:50:51 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 19:50:51 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 98
In-Reply-To: <733927996.7057241.1718909357704@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <513f8bd8-346e-6179-109f-004eb9d9316f@charter.net>
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Message-ID: <580087e2-76c1-4964-884c-cf8a69d028f8@comcast.net>

See attachment.

The one on the adjustment lever on the passenger side can be replaced 
easily (see Jean's email on pin removal). On the driver's side--with the 
solenoid--you have to remove the operating lever and, I think, the plate 
underneath. But you can do this without removing the gearbox and OD.

bs


On 6/20/2024 11:49 AM, warthodson at aol.com wrote:
> Is there a source for the double lip seals? It is my understanding 
> that these seals can be replaced without disassembling the OD to get 
> inside it. Am I correct?
> Gary
>
> On Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 11:27:44 AM CDT, Hank Leach via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, the OD cross shaft seals have been an issue for sometime and some 
> suppliers sold just o-rings as a solution which were less than 
> adequate. The actual double lipped seal is best needed to keep from 
> leaking-two o'rings made the shaft/solenoid work harder. If you want 
> to keep leaks to a minimum these seals are the best choice. The 
> intimating part of the replacement was to drive out the tapered pin 
> which could be difficult. When doing the lever side I put the 3/16" 
> drill bit in the OD setting hole before driving out the pin. Check 
> carefully for taper before driving it out the wrong way. You will be 
> glad you fixed these two leaking ends. Hank
> --------------------
>
> From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
> To: <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: June 20, 2024 at 7:47 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 98
> Thanks for the input Craig. I'm still debating the flywheel; 
> hopefully, my path will be apparent when I get the box out.
>
> I'll be checking the bell housing bolts, and the input shaft for wear. 
> I already have the OD operating shaft 'quad rings,' I got them as soon 
> as I saw Roger Moment's article (long story about the seller).
>
> Bob
>
> On 6/19/2024 1:54 PM, Craig Cooper wrote:
>
>     Re: Lightened Flywheels
>     Hi Bob:? I absolutely love the extra power (perceived or actual)
>     in my Healeys with light flywheels.? My BN1 has one from DW that
>     weighs about 12 pounds and I'm using DW's damper on the front.?
>     The car has an upgraded crankshaft and BN7 gearbox, so maybe
>     that's kept it from flying apart.? My BN7 w/BJ8 cam has an alloy
>     flywheel I got on eBay that I think weighs about 20 pounds.? It
>     runs smooth as?silk with no ill effects.? I still can get
>     occasional run-on though, with lower octane fuel.
>     On the gearbox oil leaks, check the lower bell housing bolts
>     which, at least on the side shifts, extend into the gearbox and
>     can leak.? Also, "Quad Ring" OD operating shaft seals are
>     available from AH Spares, part 0VD185MS.? I haven't tried them
>     yet, but it seems like they would be an improvement over the
>     single O rings generally used.
>     OVD185MS
>
>
>
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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 21 17:11:14 2024
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:11:14 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Trans mounting
Message-ID: <CAL4ZEOMtwOdH6=ixJpyfQuNfSPnGYcGk_j3dMJMqCif5g5auCg@mail.gmail.com>

Are the two top bolts used to secure the bell housing to the back plate
different from the rest of the bolts and nuts?  Do they screw into the
block?   I notice any screws I need to mount the transmission to the engine
for a BN2 are "N/A" in the Moss catalog.  Do I need lock washers for the
through hole bolts?  It looks like 3/8-24 by 1 1/4 inch long hex head
screws will do for the most part,but wondering about the top two and the
bottom two might have to be shorter to not interfere with the oil pan.
Anyone mount a BN2 transmission lately?
Mike MacLean
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From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Fri Jun 21 17:56:11 2024
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:56:11 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Trans mounting
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Michael,

The top right and the bottom left bolts are special BSF "Dowel Bolts" while
the rest are 3/8" Whitworth [BSF] hex bolts of varying lengths.

I just happen to have a completely restored BN2 bell housing for sale
currently on eBay...

Original Austin Healey 100, 100-4, BN2 LHD Gearbox, Transmission Bell
Housing. | eBay
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/266864632593?itmmeta=01J0YKE0B3Y168SXK6ZFWAN1CD&hash=item3e225f2311:g:Y40AAOSw1rxmXQnZ&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4I%2BBLhegjjVUu21LOpGOUUy0d%2BGzqb0EvVnR6wiG%2Blbcpg%2B5sJQS8b%2FJxG%2BBIFn%2FQxfIMrjs7eYGIVU9kRPKr21ZZ%2Fu1%2F977qpve1QVZ2yKACAT7bvgLkhfvYZE%2F3BTU4DvTagLMFEPMcoJ8KskFOCliP6lMHNdacpKZJroRriVQhI3IJ4Lie5pr1fi8wlfIKDz3KBWGOrZgUrrFbcU1GSbaolSpjmKa6Fms%2FbfVq37iv6RChHD9%2Bdji5VEvePn4vSJNV1GK97R%2BvE87ytZyhY0i%2FRAUkK4d17FfunHCHoiu%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-KFuNOHZA>
.

You should get a lot of information from my pictures, then ask questions.

Cheers,

Curtis Arndt
Carlsbad, CA

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:36?PM Michael MacLean <springer.mike51 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Are the two top bolts used to secure the bell housing to the back plate
> different from the rest of the bolts and nuts?  Do they screw into the
> block?   I notice any screws I need to mount the transmission to the engine
> for a BN2 are "N/A" in the Moss catalog.  Do I need lock washers for the
> through hole bolts?  It looks like 3/8-24 by 1 1/4 inch long hex head
> screws will do for the most part,but wondering about the top two and the
> bottom two might have to be shorter to not interfere with the oil pan.
> Anyone mount a BN2 transmission lately?
> Mike MacLean
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From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Fri Jun 21 17:58:18 2024
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:58:18 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Trans mounting
In-Reply-To: <CAJKrNeRuQVKgm3ccFytYAwjTY15edJ2b5wBJmSBC0O9Q-m50nw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL4ZEOMtwOdH6=ixJpyfQuNfSPnGYcGk_j3dMJMqCif5g5auCg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:56?PM Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> The top right and the bottom left bolts are special BSF "Dowel Bolts"
> while the rest are 3/8" Whitworth [BSF] hex bolts of varying lengths.
>
> I just happen to have a completely restored BN2 bell housing for sale
> currently on eBay...
>
> Original Austin Healey 100, 100-4, BN2 LHD Gearbox, Transmission Bell
> Housing. | eBay
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/266864632593?itmmeta=01J0YKE0B3Y168SXK6ZFWAN1CD&hash=item3e225f2311:g:Y40AAOSw1rxmXQnZ&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4I%2BBLhegjjVUu21LOpGOUUy0d%2BGzqb0EvVnR6wiG%2Blbcpg%2B5sJQS8b%2FJxG%2BBIFn%2FQxfIMrjs7eYGIVU9kRPKr21ZZ%2Fu1%2F977qpve1QVZ2yKACAT7bvgLkhfvYZE%2F3BTU4DvTagLMFEPMcoJ8KskFOCliP6lMHNdacpKZJroRriVQhI3IJ4Lie5pr1fi8wlfIKDz3KBWGOrZgUrrFbcU1GSbaolSpjmKa6Fms%2FbfVq37iv6RChHD9%2Bdji5VEvePn4vSJNV1GK97R%2BvE87ytZyhY0i%2FRAUkK4d17FfunHCHoiu%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-KFuNOHZA>
> .
>
> You should get a lot of information from my pictures, then ask questions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curtis Arndt
> Carlsbad, CA
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:36?PM Michael MacLean <springer.mike51 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Are the two top bolts used to secure the bell housing to the back plate
>> different from the rest of the bolts and nuts?  Do they screw into the
>> block?   I notice any screws I need to mount the transmission to the engine
>> for a BN2 are "N/A" in the Moss catalog.  Do I need lock washers for the
>> through hole bolts?  It looks like 3/8-24 by 1 1/4 inch long hex head
>> screws will do for the most part,but wondering about the top two and the
>> bottom two might have to be shorter to not interfere with the oil pan.
>> Anyone mount a BN2 transmission lately?
>> Mike MacLean
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Fri Jun 21 18:46:15 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:46:15 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Trans mounting
In-Reply-To: <CAJKrNeRuQVKgm3ccFytYAwjTY15edJ2b5wBJmSBC0O9Q-m50nw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL4ZEOMtwOdH6=ixJpyfQuNfSPnGYcGk_j3dMJMqCif5g5auCg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJKrNeRuQVKgm3ccFytYAwjTY15edJ2b5wBJmSBC0O9Q-m50nw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3241c10e-c318-4691-94c4-a4cc735fb5b8@comcast.net>

I got dowel bolts from BCS (they weren't cheap). Some say you don't need 
them, but I work on the 'If the beancounters at BMC allowed them ..." 
principle. I helped a friend convert his early Camaro to manual; the 
instructions from the transmission company were quite specific about 
alignment of the bell housing to the engine.

Bob


On 6/21/2024 4:56 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote:
> Michael,
>
> The top right and the bottom left bolts are special BSF "Dowel Bolts" 
> while the rest are 3/8" Whitworth [BSF] hex bolts of varying lengths.
>
> I just happen?to have a completely restored BN2 bell housing for sale 
> currently on eBay...
>
> Original Austin Healey 100, 100-4, BN2 LHD Gearbox, Transmission Bell 
> Housing. | eBay 
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/266864632593?itmmeta=01J0YKE0B3Y168SXK6ZFWAN1CD&hash=item3e225f2311:g:Y40AAOSw1rxmXQnZ&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4I%2BBLhegjjVUu21LOpGOUUy0d%2BGzqb0EvVnR6wiG%2Blbcpg%2B5sJQS8b%2FJxG%2BBIFn%2FQxfIMrjs7eYGIVU9kRPKr21ZZ%2Fu1%2F977qpve1QVZ2yKACAT7bvgLkhfvYZE%2F3BTU4DvTagLMFEPMcoJ8KskFOCliP6lMHNdacpKZJroRriVQhI3IJ4Lie5pr1fi8wlfIKDz3KBWGOrZgUrrFbcU1GSbaolSpjmKa6Fms%2FbfVq37iv6RChHD9%2Bdji5VEvePn4vSJNV1GK97R%2BvE87ytZyhY0i%2FRAUkK4d17FfunHCHoiu%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-KFuNOHZA>.
>
> You should get a lot of information from my pictures, then ask questions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curtis Arndt
> Carlsbad, CA
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:36?PM Michael MacLean 
> <springer.mike51 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Are the two top bolts used to secure the bell housing to the back
>     plate different from the rest of the bolts and nuts?? Do they
>     screw into the block??? I notice any screws I need to mount the
>     transmission to the engine for a BN2 are "N/A" in the Moss
>     catalog.? Do I need lock washers for the through hole bolts?? It
>     looks like 3/8-24 by 1 1/4 inch long hex head screws will do for
>     the most part,but wondering about the top two and the bottom two
>     might have to be shorter to not interfere with the oil pan.?
>     Anyone mount a BN2 transmission lately?
>     Mike MacLean
>
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From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Sat Jun 22 13:04:37 2024
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 12:04:37 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Trans mounting
In-Reply-To: <CAL4ZEOPjwjaPQ10VB-f5yE2_7AM7btOu-ZjaUHA59btR3uqiOQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL4ZEOMtwOdH6=ixJpyfQuNfSPnGYcGk_j3dMJMqCif5g5auCg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJKrNeRuQVKgm3ccFytYAwjTY15edJ2b5wBJmSBC0O9Q-m50nw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAL4ZEOPjwjaPQ10VB-f5yE2_7AM7btOu-ZjaUHA59btR3uqiOQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJKrNeS1PoSBAmV2_Kr+9T672e0kMSGQVuK7iZEChvkfz+YGnA@mail.gmail.com>

Michael,

*<Looking at your auction picture of the throw out bearing carrier and all
the fasteners I am now more confused than ever.>    *
First, open up a Moss catalog and look at the diagram for "Clutch 100-4".
This will answer a few of your questions.

*Restorers Tip: The Moss catalog with its excellent exploded diagrams are
an invaluable resource.*

[image: image.png]

*<The top two pins with the threaded ends are for the carrier, no?>*
Yes, these are Moss part nos. 53, 54 & 55 and the ones I have are
originals, i.e., they have 1/4" Whitworth [BSF] threads. The replacements
that Moss sells have 1/4" UNF threads. They work fine, but you'll need to
buy them as a set.

*<Also, where do the four bronze bushing go?>*
Back to the Moss catalog diagram, these are the four [4, no. 46] bushings
for no. 42, the steel "SHAFT, clutch operating". I assumed this was
obvious. These will need to be pressed into place by a competent
mechanic or machine shop. The same with the first motion shaft "Oil Seal".

*<The two bolts on the left side of the lineup of fasteners are the dowel
bolts?>*
Yes, but these are two modern UNF ones that I had modified. The shaft of
the bolt was slightly too large, so I had to machine them to size
to precisely fit the holes in the bell housing. They're not exactly like
the originals but close enough. Besides, no one is beating down my door to
buy this bell housing.

*<Are there supposed to be two short bolts to go on the bottom so as to not
interfere with the oil pan?*
No, please read what I wrote... <The *top right* and the *bottom left bolts
are special BSF "Dowel Bolts"* while the rest are 3/8" Whitworth [BSF] hex
bolts of varying lengths.>

See the photos I sent of the lip of the case. If you look closely at the
top right/bottom left holes, you'll see a circular machined depression for
the dowel bolt heads.

Below are photos of original dowel bolts...
[image: 100 dowel bolt copy.jpg]
[image: part 23 006.jpg]
The dowel bolts in my car were machined by Roger Moment off of two
originals that I had.
[image: IMG_4754.JPG]
FYI, the remaining seven [7] BSF standard hex bolts secure the gearbox to
the engine, however two [2] of these bolts are slightly longer [1/4" to
3/8"] to secure the starter.

This should give you everything you'll need to know.

Curt
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From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Sat Jun 22 13:07:44 2024
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 12:07:44 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Trans mounting
In-Reply-To: <CAJKrNeS1PoSBAmV2_Kr+9T672e0kMSGQVuK7iZEChvkfz+YGnA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL4ZEOMtwOdH6=ixJpyfQuNfSPnGYcGk_j3dMJMqCif5g5auCg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJKrNeRuQVKgm3ccFytYAwjTY15edJ2b5wBJmSBC0O9Q-m50nw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAJKrNeScmXBc8nZ0YErzGsv5_egkjVQ4XNn-fAuQJAN7Q3BDNw@mail.gmail.com>

Here are the Dowel Bolts properly attached. As you can see, the bolts are
"just" long enough to fit with a period correct thick spring washer.

Top right...
[image: scan0153.jpg]

Bottom left...
[image: scan0154.jpg]

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 12:04?PM Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> *<Looking at your auction picture of the throw out bearing carrier and all
> the fasteners I am now more confused than ever.>    *
> First, open up a Moss catalog and look at the diagram for "Clutch 100-4".
> This will answer a few of your questions.
>
> *Restorers Tip: The Moss catalog with its excellent exploded diagrams are
> an invaluable resource.*
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> *<The top two pins with the threaded ends are for the carrier, no?>*
> Yes, these are Moss part nos. 53, 54 & 55 and the ones I have are
> originals, i.e., they have 1/4" Whitworth [BSF] threads. The replacements
> that Moss sells have 1/4" UNF threads. They work fine, but you'll need to
> buy them as a set.
>
> *<Also, where do the four bronze bushing go?>*
> Back to the Moss catalog diagram, these are the four [4, no. 46] bushings
> for no. 42, the steel "SHAFT, clutch operating". I assumed this was
> obvious. These will need to be pressed into place by a competent
> mechanic or machine shop. The same with the first motion shaft "Oil Seal".
>
> *<The two bolts on the left side of the lineup of fasteners are the dowel
> bolts?>*
> Yes, but these are two modern UNF ones that I had modified. The shaft of
> the bolt was slightly too large, so I had to machine them to size
> to precisely fit the holes in the bell housing. They're not exactly like
> the originals but close enough. Besides, no one is beating down my door to
> buy this bell housing.
>
> *<Are there supposed to be two short bolts to go on the bottom so as to
> not interfere with the oil pan?*
> No, please read what I wrote... <The *top right* and the *bottom left
> bolts are special BSF "Dowel Bolts"* while the rest are 3/8" Whitworth
> [BSF] hex bolts of varying lengths.>
>
> See the photos I sent of the lip of the case. If you look closely at the
> top right/bottom left holes, you'll see a circular machined depression for
> the dowel bolt heads.
>
> Below are photos of original dowel bolts...
> [image: 100 dowel bolt copy.jpg]
> [image: part 23 006.jpg]
> The dowel bolts in my car were machined by Roger Moment off of two
> originals that I had.
> [image: IMG_4754.JPG]
> FYI, the remaining seven [7] BSF standard hex bolts secure the gearbox to
> the engine, however two [2] of these bolts are slightly longer [1/4" to
> 3/8"] to secure the starter.
>
> This should give you everything you'll need to know.
>
> Curt
>
>
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From cfrazer at uoregon.edu  Sat Jun 22 19:15:44 2024
From: cfrazer at uoregon.edu (Charles Frazer)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 01:15:44 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door Check
Message-ID: <7E57E996-46CE-4AE3-85F7-E5E69E2BE1AD@uoregon.edu>

Somewhere I remember a  quick summary of adjusting the BJ8  door check, friction disk, etc. but I can?t find it.
Can somebody point me to it?
Thanks,
Charlie Frazer

From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Sun Jun 23 06:52:28 2024
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 13:52:28 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Master Cylinder/Clutch Slip Saga
Message-ID: <000201dac56c$355e18f0$a01a4ad0$@alexarevel.plus.com>

With reference to the slipping clutch &/or overdrive, I do believe that it
is fixed. Said that before and it let me down again. But, this time, I had
it done professionally by a local team that I'd never used before. 
Anyhow, after my wasting a lot of time and some money checking everything
and getting nowhere, these guys said that the rod in the clutch master
cylinder was too long and they'd had to reduce it's length. (Non-standard
rod. Long story). So, apparently the pressure wasn't being allowed to bleed
back/out and the slave cylinder remained pressurized etcetc.
Now, if that sounds like a muddle, it is and that's because I've never
delved into or fully understood the workings of the clutch master cylinder.
(Which is why I never thought of it during the whole affair. But nor did
anyone else). I know it's not just a simple pusher, like a bicycle pump, but
that's really all. I googled it and looked into my years' worth of collected
files of advice and wisdom. But nothing found.
Can someone just explain how the thing works so I can understand what was
going on? I should like to close the whole chapter and move on.....
Thanks,
Simon
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Jun 23 07:48:18 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 06:48:18 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Master Cylinder/Clutch Slip Saga
In-Reply-To: <000201dac56c$355e18f0$a01a4ad0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000201dac56c$355e18f0$a01a4ad0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <6161cff2-b74c-4479-8463-9d40bd6f02e9@comcast.net>

Both the clutch and brake master cylinder--Moss, at least, sells the 
same part for both, and they're on sale--is just a piston that pushes 
fluid to the slave cylinder. It has a rubber seal that eventually wears 
and can be replaced. That's it; pressure is relieved when you lift your 
fit and the piston retracts. Both the brake and clutch MCs have a 
spring-loaded non-return valve--sometimes called a 'foot valve'--at the 
end of the pushrod which is essentially a small piston; it opens when 
the pedal is lifted and allows the reservoir to replenish fluid as the 
clutch or brake wears and closes as soon as the pushrod moves inward. It 
it wears or gets damaged the clutch/brakes will not function properly. 
See part# 79 here:

https://mossmotors.com/ahy-035-clutch-100-6-3000

Soooooooo ... what's the story: "(Non-standard rod. Long story)." Were 
you involved?


Bob

On 6/23/2024 5:52 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> With reference to the slipping clutch &/or overdrive, I do believe 
> thatitis fixed. Said that before and it let me down again. But, this 
> time, I had it done professionally by a local team that I?d never used 
> before.
>
> Anyhow, after my wasting a lot of time and some money checking 
> everything and getting nowhere, these guys said thatthe rod in the 
> clutch master cylinder was too long and they?d had to reduce it?s 
> length. (Non-standard rod. Long story). So,apparently the pressure 
> wasn?t being allowedto bleed back/out and the slave cylinder remained 
> pressurized etcetc.
>
> Now, if that sounds like amuddle, it is and that?s because I?ve never 
> delved into or fully understood the workings of the clutch master 
> cylinder.(Which is why I never thought of it during the whole affair. 
> But nor did anyone else).I know it?s not just a simple pusher, like a 
> bicycle pump, but that?s really all. I googled it and looked into my 
> years?worth ofcollected files of advice and wisdom. But nothing found.
>
> Can someone just explain how the thing works so I can understand what 
> was going on?I should like to close the whole chapter and move on???..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Sun Jun 23 07:52:20 2024
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:52:20 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Master Cylinder/Clutch Slip Saga
In-Reply-To: <000201dac56c$355e18f0$a01a4ad0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000201dac56c$355e18f0$a01a4ad0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <00a001dac574$91ac3030$b5049090$@sympatico.ca>

Simon,  Glad to hear that you (think) you have it solved.  Here is hoping to
many miles of functioning clutch!  I look forward to good explanation of the
M/C and how a too-long rod can cause the issues you had.

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan
via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 8:52 AM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Master Cylinder/Clutch Slip Saga

 

With reference to the slipping clutch &/or overdrive, I do believe that it
is fixed. Said that before and it let me down again. But, this time, I had
it done professionally by a local team that I'd never used before. 

Anyhow, after my wasting a lot of time and some money checking everything
and getting nowhere, these guys said that the rod in the clutch master
cylinder was too long and they'd had to reduce it's length. (Non-standard
rod. Long story). So, apparently the pressure wasn't being allowed to bleed
back/out and the slave cylinder remained pressurized etcetc.

Now, if that sounds like a muddle, it is and that's because I've never
delved into or fully understood the workings of the clutch master cylinder.
(Which is why I never thought of it during the whole affair. But nor did
anyone else). I know it's not just a simple pusher, like a bicycle pump, but
that's really all. I googled it and looked into my years' worth of collected
files of advice and wisdom. But nothing found.

Can someone just explain how the thing works so I can understand what was
going on? I should like to close the whole chapter and move on.....

Thanks,

Simon

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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sun Jun 23 08:39:13 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 10:39:13 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Master Cylinder/Clutch Slip Saga
In-Reply-To: <000201dac56c$355e18f0$a01a4ad0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000201dac56c$355e18f0$a01a4ad0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LKvLPauA8iFQMUmNkC5TG=HeK36E2Szzxz-09vankpQ6w@mail.gmail.com>

Well Simon, that explanation, although a bit weird, is possibly correct.
With a master cylinder, when the piston reaches the top of its stroke, a
"valve" opens to connect the fluid in the bore of the cylinder to the
reservoir.
This ensures that the system is filled with fluid before the pedal is
pressed to operate the clutch or brake and that any expansion of the fluid
in the system can be relieved with the fluid being returned to the
reservoir.
If an incorrect push rod is used which is too long the pedal can reach the
top of its travel (limited by a some mechanical stop other than the circlip
in the master cylinder) such that the piston of the master cylinder does
not reach the top end of its stroke thus preventing the "valve" from
opening.
This scenario results in the fluid in the system remaining under pressure
and, probably in your case, holding the clutch in a partially released
condition.
As the fluid warms up it expands and, having nowhere else to go, this
effectively depresses the clutch release bearing further which eventually
causes the clutch to slip.
This scenario is actually more common in braking systems.
In the case of the master cylinder of the 100 for example the length of the
brake master cylinder is adjustable and incorrect adjustment can result in
the brakes eventually locking up completely.
The same applies in the BJ8 where the master cylinder push rod is also
"adjustable".
A more common and very similar situation with BJ8's is caused when the
brake servo does not return fully to its "rest" position resulting in the
"valve" within the servo not opening.

M



On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 8:57?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> With reference to the slipping clutch &/or overdrive, I do believe that it is
> fixed. Said that before and it let me down again. But, this time, I had it
> done professionally by a local team that I?d never used before.
>
> Anyhow, after my wasting a lot of time and some money checking everything
> and getting nowhere, these guys said that the rod in the clutch master
> cylinder was too long and they?d had to reduce it?s length. (Non-standard
> rod. Long story). So, apparently the pressure wasn?t being allowed to
> bleed back/out and the slave cylinder remained pressurized etcetc.
>
> Now, if that sounds like a muddle, it is and that?s because I?ve never
> delved into or fully understood the workings of the clutch master cylinder.
> (Which is why I never thought of it during the whole affair. But nor did
> anyone else). I know it?s not just a simple pusher, like a bicycle pump,
> but that?s really all. I googled it and looked into my years? worth of
> collected files of advice and wisdom. But nothing found.
>
> Can someone just explain how the thing works so I can understand what was
> going on? I should like to close the whole chapter and move on???..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Sun Jun 23 11:07:20 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:07:20 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door Check
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From ampole at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 23 11:53:25 2024
From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:53:25 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door Check
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References: <bdfa2ebb-da32-8552-b397-b34d2b329a04@charter.net>
Message-ID: <DU0P251MB0481834E683EEF519098B170D5CB2@DU0P251MB0481.EURP251.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Once the friction disc is worn and has no friction being smooth, adjusting makes no difference. I tested a few for ahead4healeys in different thicknesses and types. They now sell the replacement for a few ?.
Regards Andy

Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 6:07:20 PM
To: Charles Frazer <cfrazer at uoregon.edu>; llennep--- via Healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Door Check

Looked in the AH Club Magazine Index- Sept. 2021 there is a brief article with illustrations and parts, but adjustment is more about replacing the friction discs and the nut tightening. That article was a follow-up to a Roger Moment article on adjusting the 100 door check.  There may be an earlier story, I think by Norman Nock which actually talks about adjustment.  Attached is the index of articles from that 54 year old magazine production.  You may find it looking under topic of "Technical". Back issues are available from the archives. Hank
--------------------

From: "Charles Frazer" <cfrazer at uoregon.edu>
To: "llennep--- via Healeys" <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: June 22, 2024 at 6:32 PM PDT
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door Check
Somewhere I remember a quick summary of adjusting the BJ8 door check, friction disk, etc. but I can?t find it.
Can somebody point me to it? Thanks, Charlie Frazer _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gradea1 at charter.net
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Jun 23 12:48:04 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 11:48:04 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger
In-Reply-To: <F18A6688-29D3-48F5-8E13-4E2AF4F67BE8@gmail.com>
References: <F18A6688-29D3-48F5-8E13-4E2AF4F67BE8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1aa4410b-9a8d-4cc1-8eab-f437feb7599a@comcast.net>

I'm generally not in favor of private money snarfing up independent 
businesses, larding them up with debt--dunno if that's the case here, 
but these guys like to use OPM--laying off staff, taking a big cut then 
pawning the remains off to 'the greater fool(s)' (see: rural hospital 
systems). I have a personal experience: I went to the same optometrist 
for over 30 years, then he sold out to one of these; a relatively small 
one, like this appears to be. He was a 'car guy,' into VW vans, and we'd 
trade articles off-hours and he always seemed to give me a little extra 
attention (at times, his staff would have to pull him out of our 
conversations). After he was acquired, he seemed harried and I felt the 
staff was really trying to expedite all appointments; I suspect--but 
don't know for a fact--he was on a some sort of quota or mandatory 
revenue system. I've heard lots of similar stories and I can't think of 
any where a product or service has been improved after the money boys 
took over. Anybody?

OTOH, this is a small, specialty business, and it may be the only way 
some of them can survive at all. Time will tell.

Bob


On 6/20/2024 9:11 AM, richard mayor wrote:
> Just saw this article in the latest issue of Hemmings.
>
>
> Scan 9.jpeg
>
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
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From ynotink at msn.com  Sun Jun 23 13:43:15 2024
From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 19:43:15 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Fw:  Clutch Master Cylinder/Clutch Slip Saga
In-Reply-To: <CAB3i7LKvLPauA8iFQMUmNkC5TG=HeK36E2Szzxz-09vankpQ6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000201dac56c$355e18f0$a01a4ad0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <CAB3i7LKvLPauA8iFQMUmNkC5TG=HeK36E2Szzxz-09vankpQ6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <PH0PR20MB444556539321423A135989C0A5CB2@PH0PR20MB4445.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

Perhaps a simpler explanation is that the small valve at the end of the cylinder is a non return valve that traps fluid in the cylinder bore so that the fluid can be pressurized to activate the slave cylinder. If the actuating rod doesn't have sufficient free play the valve is held closed and the cylinder pressure can't be released thus holding the clutch disengaged. The manual calls for 1/16" of play between the end of the actuator rod and the piston in. The cylinder.

!
Bill Lawrence
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 2:39 PM
To: Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch Master Cylinder/Clutch Slip Saga

Well Simon, that explanation, although a bit weird, is possibly correct.
With a master cylinder, when the piston reaches the top of its stroke, a "valve" opens to connect the fluid in the bore of the cylinder to the reservoir.
This ensures that the system is filled with fluid before the pedal is pressed to operate the clutch or brake and that any expansion of the fluid in the system can be relieved with the fluid being returned to the reservoir.
If an incorrect push rod is used which is too long the pedal can reach the top of its travel (limited by a some mechanical stop other than the circlip in the master cylinder) such that the piston of the master cylinder does not reach the top end of its stroke thus preventing the "valve" from opening.
This scenario results in the fluid in the system remaining under pressure and, probably in your case, holding the clutch in a partially released condition.
As the fluid warms up it expands and, having nowhere else to go, this effectively depresses the clutch release bearing further which eventually causes the clutch to slip.
This scenario is actually more common in braking systems.
In the case of the master cylinder of the 100 for example the length of the brake master cylinder is adjustable and incorrect adjustment can result in the brakes eventually locking up completely.
The same applies in the BJ8 where the master cylinder push rod is also "adjustable".
A more common and very similar situation with BJ8's is caused when the brake servo does not return fully to its "rest" position resulting in the "valve" within the servo not opening.

M



On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 8:57?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:

With reference to the slipping clutch &/or overdrive, I do believe that it is fixed. Said that before and it let me down again. But, this time, I had it done professionally by a local team that I?d never used before.

Anyhow, after my wasting a lot of time and some money checking everything and getting nowhere, these guys said that the rod in the clutch master cylinder was too long and they?d had to reduce it?s length. (Non-standard rod. Long story). So, apparently the pressure wasn?t being allowed to bleed back/out and the slave cylinder remained pressurized etcetc.

Now, if that sounds like a muddle, it is and that?s because I?ve never delved into or fully understood the workings of the clutch master cylinder. (Which is why I never thought of it during the whole affair. But nor did anyone else). I know it?s not just a simple pusher, like a bicycle pump, but that?s really all. I googled it and looked into my years? worth of collected files of advice and wisdom. But nothing found.

Can someone just explain how the thing works so I can understand what was going on? I should like to close the whole chapter and move on???..

Thanks,

Simon

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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 23 14:45:25 2024
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 13:45:25 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Miami Pre-Purchase Look-see
Message-ID: <102b01dac5ae$474eaa10$d5ebfe30$@gmail.com>

Are any of you near Toyota Of North Miami (16600 Nw 2nd Ave Miami, FL 33169)
and able to look at a car for me? 

 

I'm looking at a used car online and I'm over in Las Vegas.  FWIW, it should
be a fun test drive for a sports car person!

 

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All the best,

 

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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 23 15:26:39 2024
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 14:26:39 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger
In-Reply-To: <1aa4410b-9a8d-4cc1-8eab-f437feb7599a@comcast.net>
References: <F18A6688-29D3-48F5-8E13-4E2AF4F67BE8@gmail.com>
 <1aa4410b-9a8d-4cc1-8eab-f437feb7599a@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <10ac01dac5b4$09861be0$1c9253a0$@gmail.com>

Bob and all:

 

FWIW I attended the California Healey Week last month in San Luis Obispo and had an extended conversation with two young people who work for Moss Motors during the car show. 

 

They did mention the then-upcoming changes, and I expressed my hope that it does not diminish our sometimes strained customer ?love-hate? relationship with Moss. After some conversation about what I meant by that, we did have the opportunity to discuss their thoughts about Moss? future. 

 

The short of it was they both expressed confidence in the organization going forward. Let?s hope they are right, for their sake and the customers? sake too!

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 11:48 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger

 

I'm generally not in favor of private money snarfing up independent businesses, larding them up with debt--dunno if that's the case here, but these guys like to use OPM--laying off staff, taking a big cut then pawning the remains off to 'the greater fool(s)' (see: rural hospital systems). I have a personal experience: I went to the same optometrist for over 30 years, then he sold out to one of these; a relatively small one, like this appears to be. He was a 'car guy,' into VW vans, and we'd trade articles off-hours and he always seemed to give me a little extra attention (at times, his staff would have to pull him out of our conversations). After he was acquired, he seemed harried and I felt the staff was really trying to expedite all appointments; I suspect--but don't know for a fact--he was on a some sort of quota or mandatory revenue system. I've heard lots of similar stories and I can't think of any where a product or service has been improved after the money boys took over. Anybody?

OTOH, this is a small, specialty business, and it may be the only way some of them can survive at all. Time will tell.

Bob



On 6/20/2024 9:11 AM, richard mayor wrote:

Just saw this article in the latest issue of Hemmings. 

 

 



 

 

 

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boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com> 

 

 

 





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From thehartnetts at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 23 15:32:56 2024
From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard  Hartnett)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 14:32:56 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger
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References: <F18A6688-29D3-48F5-8E13-4E2AF4F67BE8@gmail.com>
 <1aa4410b-9a8d-4cc1-8eab-f437feb7599a@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E4D714E630724D71BC62A5BF4A43479D@MargaretPC>

Bob"  Once upon a time, there was a family owned hardware store in the city where we lived for 40+ years.   Then Home Depot, Walmart, etc. moved in.  I cannot attest to any facts but I believe that that competition with its buying power was what made them become an ACE hardware store.  Thankfully, I have not seen any major changes in service or product.  Several times, when unable to find what I am looking for at the major chain store, the salesperson will recommend that I go to that local store, still referring to it by its original name, not an Ace store.   It is still part of the history of the city.  I was able to buy two (2) wood screws that I needed, not a pack of 6 or more.  I now refer to it as a museum. 

              The Other Len
1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
                HBJ8L39031
              224,925  miles

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Spidell 
  To: healeys at autox.team.net 
  Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 11:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger


  I'm generally not in favor of private money snarfing up independent businesses, larding them up with debt--dunno if that's the case here, but these guys like to use OPM--laying off staff, taking a big cut then pawning the remains off to 'the greater fool(s)' (see: rural hospital systems). I have a personal experience: I went to the same optometrist for over 30 years, then he sold out to one of these; a relatively small one, like this appears to be. He was a 'car guy,' into VW vans, and we'd trade articles off-hours and he always seemed to give me a little extra attention (at times, his staff would have to pull him out of our conversations). After he was acquired, he seemed harried and I felt the staff was really trying to expedite all appointments; I suspect--but don't know for a fact--he was on a some sort of quota or mandatory revenue system. I've heard lots of similar stories and I can't think of any where a product or service has been improved after the money boys took over. Anybody?

  OTOH, this is a small, specialty business, and it may be the only way some of them can survive at all. Time will tell.

  Bob




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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Jun 23 19:33:46 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 18:33:46 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger
In-Reply-To: <E4D714E630724D71BC62A5BF4A43479D@MargaretPC>
References: <F18A6688-29D3-48F5-8E13-4E2AF4F67BE8@gmail.com>
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 <E4D714E630724D71BC62A5BF4A43479D@MargaretPC>
Message-ID: <4470f648-c768-4185-8345-aa5667732106@comcast.net>

Ace is definitely a cut above the big box stores for service and 
selection (stores are much nicer too). But, prices are higher. They're 
they only place around here to get Stihl equipment.


On 6/23/2024 2:32 PM, Leonard Hartnett wrote:
> ?
> Bob"? Once upon a time, there was a family owned hardware store in the 
> city where we lived?for 40+ years. ? Then Home Depot, Walmart, etc. 
> moved in.? I cannot attest to?any facts but I believe that that 
> competition with its buying power was what made them become an ACE 
> hardware store.? Thankfully, I have not seen any major changes in 
> service or product. Several times, when unable to find what I am 
> looking for at the major chain store, the salesperson will recommend 
> that I go to that local store, still referring to it by its original 
> name, not an Ace store.?? It is stillpart of the history of the city. 
> I?was able to buy?two (2) wood screws that I needed, not a pack of 6 
> or more.??I now refer to it as a museum.
> ????????????? The Other Len
> 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
> ??????????????? HBJ8L39031
> ????????????? 224,925? miles
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Bob Spidell <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net>
>     *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
>     *Sent:* Sunday, June 23, 2024 11:48 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger
>
>     I'm generally not in favor of private money snarfing up
>     independent businesses, larding them up with debt--dunno if that's
>     the case here, but these guys like to use OPM--laying off staff,
>     taking a big cut then pawning the remains off to 'the greater
>     fool(s)' (see: rural hospital systems). I have a personal
>     experience: I went to the same optometrist for over 30 years, then
>     he sold out to one of these; a relatively small one, like this
>     appears to be. He was a 'car guy,' into VW vans, and we'd trade
>     articles off-hours and he always seemed to give me a little extra
>     attention (at times, his staff would have to pull him out of our
>     conversations). After he was acquired, he seemed harried and I
>     felt the staff was really trying to expedite all appointments; I
>     suspect--but don't know for a fact--he was on a some sort of quota
>     or mandatory revenue system. I've heard lots of similar stories
>     and I can't think of any where a product or service has been
>     improved after the money boys took over. Anybody?
>
>     OTOH, this is a small, specialty business, and it may be the only
>     way some of them can survive at all. Time will tell.
>
>     Bob
>
>
>
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Mon Jun 24 08:20:16 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 10:20:16 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger
In-Reply-To: <4470f648-c768-4185-8345-aa5667732106@comcast.net>
References: <F18A6688-29D3-48F5-8E13-4E2AF4F67BE8@gmail.com>
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Moss's acquisition of Rimmer Bros. and the phenomenon of Ma & Pa hardware
stores' becoming part of the Ace brand are both examples of the
acquisition/consolidation trend that now dominates business and
professional organizations, including physicians, dentists, veterinarians,
CPA. attorneys, hospitals, funeral homes, pharmacies, specialty retail
stores, restaurants, etc. etc.--you name it and and you don't have to look
very hard to find an example of where an individual proprietorship is now
owned by or affiliated with some larger conglomeration.   The former owner
has moved to Florida and oftentimes his place has been taken by someone who
was flipping burgers last week.

In almost all cases the promise of better prices resulting from "economy of
scale" never materializes and personal relationships and quality of service
suffer because of sales quotas that must be achieved or due to limitations
placed upon time that can be spent with a customer, client or patient.  My
local Ace now has about 25% of its square footage devoted to either
its "outdoor department" or what I call a home store. Many of the retail
sales personnel know a lot less than I do about what they are selling. Big
Box "hardware" stores are even worse with employees who receive little
training and little or no experience.  Plus you can only buy fasteners in
prepacked quantities to defeat shoplifters and in plastic enclosures that
defy opening without a box cutter or the like.

True story:  I once went into a national hardware chain store in need of a
nail set.  When I was unable to find one I asked a young sales clerk for
help and he told me they only sold nails by the box.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 9:11?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

> Ace is definitely a cut above the big box stores for service and selection
> (stores are much nicer too). But, prices are higher. They're they only
> place around here to get Stihl equipment.
>
>
> On 6/23/2024 2:32 PM, Leonard Hartnett wrote:
>
> ?
> Bob"  Once upon a time, there was a family owned hardware store in the
> city where we lived for 40+ years.   Then Home Depot, Walmart, etc. moved
> in.  I cannot attest to any facts but I believe that that competition with
> its buying power was what made them become an ACE hardware store.
> Thankfully, I have not seen any major changes in service or product.
> Several times, when unable to find what I am looking for at the major chain
> store, the salesperson will recommend that I go to that local store, still
> referring to it by its original name, not an Ace store.   It is still
> part of the history of the city.  I was able to buy two (2) wood screws
> that I needed, not a pack of 6 or more.  I now refer to it as a museum.
>
>               The Other Len
> 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
>                 HBJ8L39031
>               224,925  miles
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 23, 2024 11:48 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger
>
> I'm generally not in favor of private money snarfing up independent
> businesses, larding them up with debt--dunno if that's the case here, but
> these guys like to use OPM--laying off staff, taking a big cut then pawning
> the remains off to 'the greater fool(s)' (see: rural hospital systems). I
> have a personal experience: I went to the same optometrist for over 30
> years, then he sold out to one of these; a relatively small one, like this
> appears to be. He was a 'car guy,' into VW vans, and we'd trade articles
> off-hours and he always seemed to give me a little extra attention (at
> times, his staff would have to pull him out of our conversations). After he
> was acquired, he seemed harried and I felt the staff was really trying to
> expedite all appointments; I suspect--but don't know for a fact--he was on
> a some sort of quota or mandatory revenue system. I've heard lots of
> similar stories and I can't think of any where a product or service has
> been improved after the money boys took over. Anybody?
>
> OTOH, this is a small, specialty business, and it may be the only way some
> of them can survive at all. Time will tell.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
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From ahbn6 at verizon.net  Mon Jun 24 09:20:44 2024
From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (ahbn6 at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 11:20:44 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] FW:  Moss Motors merger
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B7db9VgdX3goqFKRMhDqRd0iSN3L7-mrQUmm+RaVZ3=KQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F18A6688-29D3-48F5-8E13-4E2AF4F67BE8@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <014501dac64a$15977d20$40c67760$@verizon.net>

Another true story.  I went to the local Pep Boys store years ago to get some 30 wt non-detergent oil for my tranny and was told by the clerk that it was stopped manufactured years ago.  This was confirmed by the "manager"  I then went to an Advance auto parts and bought a quart. Back to Pep Boys, showed them the oil and was told that it was a discontinued item and should not by used. Idiots. I put another 5,000 miles on my Healey. They lost a customer for life.
John Sims
www.healey6.com
Matawan, NJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 10:20 AM
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger

Moss's acquisition of Rimmer Bros. and the phenomenon of Ma & Pa hardware stores' becoming part of the Ace brand are both examples of the acquisition/consolidation trend that now dominates business and professional organizations, including physicians, dentists, veterinarians, CPA. attorneys, hospitals, funeral homes, pharmacies, specialty retail stores, restaurants, etc. etc.--you name it and and you don't have to look very hard to find an example of where an individual proprietorship is now owned by or affiliated with some larger conglomeration.   The former owner has moved to Florida and oftentimes his place has been taken by someone who was flipping burgers last week.

In almost all cases the promise of better prices resulting from "economy of scale" never materializes and personal relationships and quality of service suffer because of sales quotas that must be achieved or due to limitations placed upon time that can be spent with a customer, client or patient.  My local Ace now has about 25% of its square footage devoted to either its "outdoor department" or what I call a home store. Many of the retail sales personnel know a lot less than I do about what they are selling. Big Box "hardware" stores are even worse with employees who receive little training and little or no experience.  Plus you can only buy fasteners in prepacked quantities to defeat shoplifters and in plastic enclosures that defy opening without a box cutter or the like.

True story:  I once went into a national hardware chain store in need of a nail set.  When I was unable to find one I asked a young sales clerk for help and he told me they only sold nails by the box.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 9:11?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net> > wrote:


	
	Ace is definitely a cut above the big box stores for service and selection (stores are much nicer too). But, prices are higher. They're they only place around here to get Stihl equipment.
	
	
	
	On 6/23/2024 2:32 PM, Leonard Hartnett wrote:
	

		? 
		Bob"  Once upon a time, there was a family owned hardware store in the city where we lived for 40+ years.   Then Home Depot, Walmart, etc. moved in.  I cannot attest to any facts but I believe that that competition with its buying power was what made them become an ACE hardware store.  Thankfully, I have not seen any major changes in service or product.  Several times, when unable to find what I am looking for at the major chain store, the salesperson will recommend that I go to that local store, still referring to it by its original name, not an Ace store.   It is still part of the history of the city.  I was able to buy two (2) wood screws that I needed, not a pack of 6 or more.  I now refer to it as a museum. 
		 
		              The Other Len
		1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
		                HBJ8L39031
		              224,925  miles
		 

			----- Original Message ----- 
			From: Bob Spidell <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net>  
			To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>  
			Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 11:48 AM
			Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger

			I'm generally not in favor of private money snarfing up independent businesses, larding them up with debt--dunno if that's the case here, but these guys like to use OPM--laying off staff, taking a big cut then pawning the remains off to 'the greater fool(s)' (see: rural hospital systems). I have a personal experience: I went to the same optometrist for over 30 years, then he sold out to one of these; a relatively small one, like this appears to be. He was a 'car guy,' into VW vans, and we'd trade articles off-hours and he always seemed to give me a little extra attention (at times, his staff would have to pull him out of our conversations). After he was acquired, he seemed harried and I felt the staff was really trying to expedite all appointments; I suspect--but don't know for a fact--he was on a some sort of quota or mandatory revenue system. I've heard lots of similar stories and I can't think of any where a product or service has been improved after the money boys took over. Anybody?
			
			OTOH, this is a small, specialty business, and it may be the only way some of them can survive at all. Time will tell.
			
			Bob
			
			
			



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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Mon Jun 24 13:20:23 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 15:20:23 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] FP681 original Union key
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LJtbJKSqkMjB2AMTE_g8iLKiCgeYt09RduFfoqABxZGpw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm looking for an original Wilmot Breedon key for my BN2.
FP681

Anyone have one that I can buy?

Thanks

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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Mon Jun 24 16:20:30 2024
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 18:20:30 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Miami Pre-Purchase Look-see
In-Reply-To: <102b01dac5ae$474eaa10$d5ebfe30$@gmail.com>
References: <102b01dac5ae$474eaa10$d5ebfe30$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTkL+kdhFWbczrq76N57uM_Xtm3dFnrFHNniCmGG_BVeLSw@mail.gmail.com>

It?s slowly  dwindling market so it makes sense.

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 at 5:18?PM, <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Are any of you near Toyota Of North Miami (16600 Nw 2nd Ave Miami, FL
> 33169
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/16600+Nw+2nd+Ave+Miami,+FL+33169?entry=gmail&source=g>)
> and able to look at a car for me?
>
>
>
> I?m looking at a used car online and I?m over in Las Vegas?  FWIW, it
> should be a fun test drive for a sports car person!
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 24 16:26:05 2024
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 15:26:05 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Miami Pre-Purchase Look-see
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Alan ? does that mean you are in the area and can take a look?

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 3:21 PM
To: alfuller194 at gmail.com
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Miami Pre-Purchase Look-see

 

 

It?s slowly  dwindling market so it makes sense.

 

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 at 5:18?PM, <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Are any of you near Toyota Of North Miami (16600 Nw 2nd Ave Miami, FL 33169 <https://www.google.com/maps/search/16600+Nw+2nd+Ave+Miami,+FL+33169?entry=gmail&source=g> ) and able to look at a car for me? 

 

I?m looking at a used car online and I?m over in Las Vegas?  FWIW, it should be a fun test drive for a sports car person!

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Mon Jun 24 16:29:54 2024
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 18:29:54 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Miami Pre-Purchase Look-see
In-Reply-To: <154701dac685$8113f610$833be230$@gmail.com>
References: <102b01dac5ae$474eaa10$d5ebfe30$@gmail.com>
 <CAFBXTkL+kdhFWbczrq76N57uM_Xtm3dFnrFHNniCmGG_BVeLSw@mail.gmail.com>
 <154701dac685$8113f610$833be230$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTkJjNYE4DAFB6rJqQ8eE6qBSFWNniHaX_NHrjXW=Fc=PpA@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry!  replied to the wrong thread!

On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 at 6:26?PM, <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Alan ? does that mean you are in the area and can take a look?
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> *From:* Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 24, 2024 3:21 PM
> *To:* alfuller194 at gmail.com
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Miami Pre-Purchase Look-see
>
>
>
>
>
> It?s slowly  dwindling market so it makes sense.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 at 5:18?PM, <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Are any of you near Toyota Of North Miami (16600 Nw 2nd Ave Miami, FL
> 33169
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/16600+Nw+2nd+Ave+Miami,+FL+33169?entry=gmail&source=g>)
> and able to look at a car for me?
>
>
>
> I?m looking at a used car online and I?m over in Las Vegas?  FWIW, it
> should be a fun test drive for a sports car person!
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 24 16:37:48 2024
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 15:37:48 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Miami Pre-Purchase Look-see
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No worries ? thanks.

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 3:30 PM
To: alfuller194 at gmail.com
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Miami Pre-Purchase Look-see

 

Sorry!  replied to the wrong thread!

 

On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 at 6:26?PM, <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Alan ? does that mean you are in the area and can take a look?

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com <mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 3:21 PM
To: alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Miami Pre-Purchase Look-see

 

 

It?s slowly  dwindling market so it makes sense.

 

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 at 5:18?PM, <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Are any of you near Toyota Of North Miami (16600 Nw 2nd Ave Miami, FL 33169 <https://www.google.com/maps/search/16600+Nw+2nd+Ave+Miami,+FL+33169?entry=gmail&source=g> ) and able to look at a car for me? 

 

I?m looking at a used car online and I?m over in Las Vegas?  FWIW, it should be a fun test drive for a sports car person!

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

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From einhornlawoffice at gmail.com  Mon Jun 24 16:43:39 2024
From: einhornlawoffice at gmail.com (Jonathan Einhorn)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 18:43:39 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 vs BJ8 engine block
Message-ID: <CADqHe-1aFogETnAWaraO9nfX+RSEu+wxTPci-szy9HuswE7+kA@mail.gmail.com>

I?m building a new engine for my BJ8 racecar and I have a rebuilt BJ7 block
in my garage. Does anyone know the BJ8 block and the BJ7 block are the
same? I don?t know yet if I?ll use a stock head or a Denis Welch aluminum
head, which was in the racecar previously .
Thanks
Jon

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From manifold at telus.net  Mon Jun 24 16:46:57 2024
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 15:46:57 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Michelin 15E13 Tube
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCCqo43HmvVJm-yHr1tbcgoN=F_km=QdwoOicw8G0R_Yaw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Can anyone recommend an online source for a genuine Michelin 15E13 inner
tube?

Thanks.... Harold
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 24 17:52:38 2024
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 16:52:38 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Oil filter type - 1962 BT& MK II
References: <00d001dac691$98959b70$c9c0d250$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <00d001dac691$98959b70$c9c0d250$@sbcglobal.net>

Hello,

 

The moss oil filter is backordered. Has anyone installed this filter? If so,
do you have any comments or warnings?

 



 

Thanks,

John Spaur

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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 24 18:56:58 2024
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (Richard Mayor)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 17:56:58 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 vs BJ8 engine block
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Hi Jon, 

 The blocks are essentially the same.  I believe the BJ7 block has the dipstick in the same location as all of the previous 6 cylinder engines. The BJ8 blocks have the dipstick in a slightly different location but other than that they are the same. Also the BJ8 engines don?t use a mechanical tack drive.


Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com


> On Jun 24, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I?m building a new engine for my BJ8 racecar and I have a rebuilt BJ7 block in my garage. Does anyone know the BJ8 block and the BJ7 block are the same? I don?t know yet if I?ll use a stock head or a Denis Welch aluminum head, which was in the racecar previously .
> Thanks
> Jon
> 
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From einhornlawoffice at gmail.com  Mon Jun 24 18:59:01 2024
From: einhornlawoffice at gmail.com (Jonathan Einhorn)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 20:59:01 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 vs BJ8 engine block
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References: <CADqHe-1aFogETnAWaraO9nfX+RSEu+wxTPci-szy9HuswE7+kA@mail.gmail.com>
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Great: thanks. I bent two rods and one of the valves destroyed piston #6.
Need a spare engine
Jon

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129 Whitney Avenue
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On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 8:57?PM Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jon,
>
>  The blocks are essentially the same.  I believe the BJ7 block has the
> dipstick in the same location as all of the previous 6 cylinder engines.
> The BJ8 blocks have the dipstick in a slightly different location but other
> than that they are the same. Also the BJ8 engines don?t use a mechanical
> tack drive.
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I?m building a new engine for my BJ8 racecar and I have a rebuilt BJ7
> block in my garage. Does anyone know the BJ8 block and the BJ7 block are
> the same? I don?t know yet if I?ll use a stock head or a Denis Welch
> aluminum head, which was in the racecar previously .
> Thanks
> Jon
>
> Jonathan J. Einhorn, Esq.
> Attorney & Counselor at Law
> 129 Whitney Avenue
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/129+Whitney+Avenue+New+Haven,+CT.+06510?entry=gmail&source=g>
> New Haven, CT. 06510
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From cfrazer at uoregon.edu  Mon Jun 24 19:06:37 2024
From: cfrazer at uoregon.edu (Charles Frazer)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 01:06:37 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Michelin 15E13 Tube
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Harold,
Can?t say for sure they have them, but the first place I would look is Longstonetyres.co.uk.
Charlie


On Jun 24, 2024, at 3:46 PM, Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:

Hello,

Can anyone recommend an online source for a genuine Michelin 15E13 inner tube?

Thanks.... Harold
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Mon Jun 24 20:03:12 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 22:03:12 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Michelin 15E13 Tube
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Harold--

I don't know about the specific tube you designate but I recently ordered a
set of Michelin XAS 180-15's along with appropriate tubes and wheel bands
directly from Longstone Tyres in the UK via its website.  The order was
acknowledged immediately and everything was received within a week.  I
recommend you contact them.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 9:11?PM Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Can anyone recommend an online source for a genuine Michelin 15E13 inner
> tube?
>
> Thanks.... Harold
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Mon Jun 24 20:15:50 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 02:15:50 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] FP681 original Union key
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From p.cquinn at outlook.com  Mon Jun 24 21:14:12 2024
From: p.cquinn at outlook.com (Patrick and Caroline Quinn)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 03:14:12 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 vs BJ8 engine block
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References: <CADqHe-1aFogETnAWaraO9nfX+RSEu+wxTPci-szy9HuswE7+kA@mail.gmail.com>
 <B1B4DD46-85FC-4478-AD66-44AB9149843E@gmail.com>
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Hello

The first BJ8 was released in Oct 1963 with engine number 29KF/101 which was essentially the same casting as the BJ7. In November 1963 the fourth iteration of the C-Series casting was introduced with engine 29K/279. Externally the main difference was that the dipstick was higher up the block, however some blocks also had a small plate covering the mechanical fuel pump opening below the generator that was used in BMC sedans.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Richard Mayor
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 10:57 AM
To: Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice at gmail.com>
Cc: healey list <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ7 vs BJ8 engine block

Hi Jon,

 The blocks are essentially the same.  I believe the BJ7 block has the dipstick in the same location as all of the previous 6 cylinder engines. The BJ8 blocks have the dipstick in a slightly different location but other than that they are the same. Also the BJ8 engines don?t use a mechanical tack drive.


Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com<mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>

On Jun 24, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice at gmail.com<mailto:einhornlawoffice at gmail.com>> wrote:

I?m building a new engine for my BJ8 racecar and I have a rebuilt BJ7 block in my garage. Does anyone know the BJ8 block and the BJ7 block are the same? I don?t know yet if I?ll use a stock head or a Denis Welch aluminum head, which was in the racecar previously .
Thanks
Jon

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Attorney & Counselor at Law
129 Whitney Avenue
New Haven, CT. 06510
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 25 00:20:38 2024
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 23:20:38 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Michelin 15E13 Tube
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Hi, I recently installed new tubes with tires on my BT7. The tube I installed was a Hi-Run FR15 TR13. This tube fits various tire sizes. The TR13 is an offset stem. The tires were Michelin XAS | 180HR15 89H which are manufactured by Michelin but licensed to be sold by Coker. The reason I bring this up is because Coker sells Michelin tubes for about $41 each! The Hi-Run tube is a high quality tube that costs about $11 each from Lowes. Essentially four tubes for the price of one. If you are worried about losing points in a concours judgment I doubt they would remove a tire to check. Lowes ships direct. 

 

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hi-Run-Hi-run-Passenger-Tire-Inner-Tube-Fr15-tr13/5001639433

 

John

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Harold Manifold
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 3:47 PM
To: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Michelin 15E13 Tube

 

Hello,

 

Can anyone recommend an online source for a genuine Michelin 15E13 inner tube?

 

Thanks.... Harold

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From einhornlawoffice at gmail.com  Tue Jun 25 07:00:46 2024
From: einhornlawoffice at gmail.com (Jonathan Einhorn)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 09:00:46 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 vs BJ8 engine block
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Thanks> sounds like it should be OK.

jon

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 11:14?PM Patrick and Caroline Quinn <
p.cquinn at outlook.com> wrote:

> Hello
>
>
>
> The first BJ8 was released in Oct 1963 with engine number 29KF/101 which
> was essentially the same casting as the BJ7. In November 1963 the fourth
> iteration of the C-Series casting was introduced with engine 29K/279.
> Externally the main difference was that the dipstick was higher up the
> block, however some blocks also had a small plate covering the mechanical
> fuel pump opening below the generator that was used in BMC sedans.
>
>
>
> Hoo Roo
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Mayor
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2024 10:57 AM
> *To:* Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* healey list <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ7 vs BJ8 engine block
>
>
>
> Hi Jon,
>
>
>
>  The blocks are essentially the same.  I believe the BJ7 block has the
> dipstick in the same location as all of the previous 6 cylinder engines.
> The BJ8 blocks have the dipstick in a slightly different location but other
> than that they are the same. Also the BJ8 engines don?t use a mechanical
> tack drive.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I?m building a new engine for my BJ8 racecar and I have a rebuilt BJ7
> block in my garage. Does anyone know the BJ8 block and the BJ7 block are
> the same? I don?t know yet if I?ll use a stock head or a Denis Welch
> aluminum head, which was in the racecar previously .
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon
>
> Jonathan J. Einhorn, Esq.
> Attorney & Counselor at Law
> 129 Whitney Avenue
> New Haven, CT. 06510
> tel: 203-777-3777
> einhornlawoffice at gmail.com
> fax: 203-782-1721
> cell: 203-623-7373
>
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 25 08:05:06 2024
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 10:05:06 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] FP681 original Union key
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Sorry Mike, checked the few W-B keys I have and they are all later ?FR? series.

 

Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 3:20 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] FP681 original Union key

 

I'm looking for an original Wilmot Breedon key for my BN2.

FP681

 

Anyone have one that I can buy?

 

Thanks

 

M

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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 25 08:21:42 2024
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 07:21:42 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Michelin 15E13 Tube
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https://www.vintagetyres.com/michelin-15e-inner-tube-155-165-180-560-175-185-70-15

Mike MacLean

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 6:02?PM Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Can anyone recommend an online source for a genuine Michelin 15E13 inner
> tube?
>
> Thanks.... Harold
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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 25 08:26:45 2024
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 07:26:45 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] FP681 original Union key
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https://triple-c.com/Original_Wilmot_Breeden_Keys.cfm

Mike MacLean

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:34?PM Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm looking for an original Wilmot Breedon key for my BN2.
> FP681
>
> Anyone have one that I can buy?
>
> Thanks
>
> M
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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Tue Jun 25 11:28:28 2024
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:28:28 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Healeys] FP681 original Union key
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Hello Mike,
If you are not in a hurry I can have a  look at Beaulieu Autojumble in 
September.  I am sure I will find a genuine one or more for you. They are 
usually sold for about 3 to 5 Brit. Pounds each (+ postage to you). I am 
looking there for keys anyway.
Just  tell me if you like one or more of those. Are you sure you need a FP 
key for your BN2 and not a FA key?
You can e-mail me directly.
Best wishes,
Josef Eckert 
K?nigswinter Germany 
 
 
 
 
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 <https://triple-c.com/Original_Wilmot_Breeden_Keys.cfm>
 
Mike MacLean

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:34?PM Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com
<mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> > wrote:
  I'm looking for an original Wilmot Breedon key for my BN2.
  FP681
   
  Anyone have one that I can buy?
   
  Thanks
   
  M
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From rfbegani at gmail.com  Tue Jun 25 16:21:59 2024
From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 18:21:59 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
Message-ID: <033001dac74e$18dca1e0$4a95e5a0$@gmail.com>

I know this will sound good for most of our Healey owners, however finally I
got tired of trying to see the 2 mirrors on my front fenders and the tiny
one on the dash.  First, I tried clip on panoramic mirrors on the dash
mirror.  Not very good as they kept falling off and were too low really see
behind.  Next, I tried a panoramic mirror attached with a suction cup, but
it kept fall in off the window.  Finally, I found the best mirror for seeing
behind and the sides.  It had a great suction cup with the ability to
tighten the fixture, so it was really locked on the window, although I is
not glued to the window.   Also, the panoramic feature allowed me to raise
it up to the top of the windscreen.  I bought it from amazon:

 

Bittwee Car Rear View Mirror, HD 360? Adjustable Anti-glare Adjustable Extra
Wide Automotive Panoramic Rear View Mirror with Suction Cup, Interior
Decor...

 

Also, I removed the original mirror from the dash so I can see ahead and the
sides of the road.. 

 

Regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 BJ8

 

 

 

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From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 25 17:53:37 2024
From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 23:53:37 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
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Hey Bob
Attach a photo.
Tks
Regards,
Richard C
BN7 440

On Jun 25, 2024, at 17:30, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:

?
I know this will sound good for most of our Healey owners, however finally I got tired of trying to see the 2 mirrors on my front fenders and the tiny one on the dash.  First, I tried clip on panoramic mirrors on the dash mirror.  Not very good as they kept falling off and were too low really see behind.  Next, I tried a panoramic mirror attached with a suction cup, but it kept fall in off the window.  Finally, I found the best mirror for seeing behind and the sides.  It had a great suction cup with the ability to tighten the fixture, so it was really locked on the window, although I is not glued to the window.   Also, the panoramic feature allowed me to raise it up to the top of the windscreen.  I bought it from amazon:

Bittwee Car Rear View Mirror, HD 360? Adjustable Anti-glare Adjustable Extra Wide Automotive Panoramic Rear View Mirror with Suction Cup, Interior Decor...

Also, I removed the original mirror from the dash so I can see ahead and the sides of the road..

Regards,

Bob Begani
67 BJ8



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From bspidell at comcast.net  Tue Jun 25 19:15:52 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 18:15:52 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Edd, Ant or Elvis?
Message-ID: <31e9bdf6-2009-4d40-9507-7d49c02ce751@comcast.net>

Edd is the sentimental favorite, being the first. Tall, kinda dorky, but 
completely knowledgeable and down-to-earth. Ant was good, too, and 
accessible; his fling with an American reality show star--who's now 
hawking quickie bathroom remodels (excessively)--doesn't count against 
him and, of course, he tuned and sold a Big Healey at B-J for big bucks. 
But Elvis is kinda growing on me now, and his F1 experience brings new 
aspects to the repairs and rebuilds.

Earliest seasons are now on MotorTrend; the show's really changed over 
the years (I don't subscribe but get them recorded).



From eps2660 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 25 19:54:52 2024
From: eps2660 at gmail.com (Elton S)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 21:54:52 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
Message-ID: <CAFKLAdj6epAouR3okJqeDLzuYoBagSXNrzf+V03wS41dkgKg=w@mail.gmail.com>

Fellow Listers,
I need to replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What technique
have you used? Did you just drain all the lines and reservoir and then
refill with new fluid? Then bleeding to get all the air out? Or draining
the lines to where the reservoir is almost empty and then adding new fluid
so as to prevent air from getting in the lines? Bleeding the clutch slave
cylinder is not one of my favorite pastimes.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Elton
BJ7
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Wed Jun 26 00:54:23 2024
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 08:54:23 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
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Best and safest way is to drain the system from the bleed nipples at the 
brake callipers/cylinders. Fill up the reservoir to the max with fresh 
brake fluid, then use a vacuum pump to drain the fluid beginning with 
the wheel furthest away from the master cylinder. Be very careful to top 
up the master cylinder during the process, you do not want to get air in 
the system. Drain until the clear and clean brake fluid brake fluid 
starts showing in the tube connecting the vacuum hand pump and bleed 
nipple and tighten the nipple.

Another method is using an Easybleed set. This is a pressure reservoir 
that screws on to the brake fluid reservoir. Fill up the reservoir with 
clean fluid according to the instructions and pressurise the reservoir 
slightly. Then open up the bleed nipples one by one until clean and 
clear brake fluid appears. Be very careful though not to overfill or 
over-pressurise as. This will cause spilling/spreading brake fluid. Not 
good for your paint

Kees Oudesluijs



Op 26-6-2024 om 03:54 schreef Elton S via Healeys:
> Fellow Listers,
> I need to replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What 
> technique have you used? Did you just drain all the lines and 
> reservoir and then refill with new fluid? Then bleeding to get all the 
> air out? Or draining the lines to where the reservoir is almost empty 
> and then adding new fluid so as to prevent air from getting in the 
> lines? Bleeding the clutch slave cylinder is not one of my favorite 
> pastimes.
> Thanks in advance for your advice.
> Elton
> BJ7
>
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Wed Jun 26 02:40:28 2024
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:40:28 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
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Message-ID: <001701dac7a4$806c0de0$814429a0$@alexarevel.plus.com>

I just do it as if I?m bleeding the system. Start at the furthest and pump until the new fluid comes through. Not that I do it very often.

Simon

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Elton S via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 2:55 AM
To: Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

 

Fellow Listers,

I need to replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What technique have you used? Did you just drain all the lines and reservoir and then refill with new fluid? Then bleeding to get all the air out? Or draining the lines to where the reservoir is almost empty and then adding new fluid so as to prevent air from getting in the lines? Bleeding the clutch slave cylinder is not one of my favorite pastimes.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Elton

BJ7

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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Wed Jun 26 03:27:45 2024
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 11:27:45 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
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Panoramic mirrors fixed high on the windscreen are ideal for any 
roadster. Especially with the rag top down, you hardly need the side 
mirrors. I have one for donkeys years in my J-H but it is clipped to the 
original mirror. It might not look to smart but the range of view is 
amazing and a great contribution to safety.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 26-6-2024 om 01:53 schreef Richard Collins via Healeys:
> Hey Bob
> Attach a photo.
> Tks
> Regards,
> Richard C
> BN7 440
>
>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 17:30, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> I know this will sound good for most of our Healey owners, however 
>> finally I got tired of trying to see the 2 mirrors on my front 
>> fenders and the tiny one on the dash.? First, I tried clip on 
>> panoramic mirrors on the dash mirror.? Not very good as they kept 
>> falling off and were too low really see behind.? Next, I tried a 
>> panoramic mirror attached with a suction cup, but it kept fall in off 
>> the window.? Finally, I found the best mirror for seeing behind and 
>> the sides.? It had a great suction cup with the ability to tighten 
>> the fixture, so it was really locked on the window, although I is not 
>> glued to the window. ??Also, the panoramic feature allowed me to 
>> raise it up to the top of the windscreen.? I bought it from amazon:
>>
>> Bittwee Car Rear View Mirror, HD 360? Adjustable Anti-glare 
>> Adjustable Extra Wide Automotive Panoramic Rear View Mirror with 
>> Suction Cup, Interior Decor...
>>
>> Also, I removed the original mirror from the dash so I can see ahead 
>> and the sides of the road..
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bob Begani
>>
>> 67 BJ8
>>
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From greylinn at ozemail.com.au  Wed Jun 26 07:05:57 2024
From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (greylinn at ozemail.com.au)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 23:05:57 +1000
Subject: [Healeys] Edd, Ant or Elvis?
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Elvis for mine is the best - natural & with a good knowledge base. Ant the worst - always seemed to be 'acting' - perhaps Renee's influence? ?

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:16 AM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Edd, Ant or Elvis?

Edd is the sentimental favorite, being the first. Tall, kinda dorky, but completely knowledgeable and down-to-earth. Ant was good, too, and accessible; his fling with an American reality show star--who's now hawking quickie bathroom remodels (excessively)--doesn't count against him and, of course, he tuned and sold a Big Healey at B-J for big bucks. 
But Elvis is kinda growing on me now, and his F1 experience brings new aspects to the repairs and rebuilds.

Earliest seasons are now on MotorTrend; the show's really changed over the years (I don't subscribe but get them recorded).


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From bspidell at comcast.net  Wed Jun 26 08:51:13 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:51:13 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Edd, Ant or Elvis?
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Ant was on a British show--similar to WD but funnier, and the host 
wasn't as over-the-top as Brewer--and was the same 'act,' if you will. I 
can't for the life of me remember the name of the show--it was only on 
briefly--but the intro screen had the rear end of a 100 on it. I 
sympathized with him because he always paid asking, and I can't haggle 
for the life of me. I think Renee and Ant hooked-up after Ant left the 
show and his American consort dumped him (can't for the life of me name 
her, but she has a screechy voice and annoys the hell out of me, 
shilling for Jacuzzi, all f'n day).

Gotta give WD credit; going on 20 seasons (I think). Most of the 
American car shows have too much silliness and grabassery--and not much 
technical stuff--for my taste (always the same: air-bag it, stuff an LS 
in it and put huge dubs and a garish paint job on it). 'Phantom Works' 
was good but cancelled; 'Roadkill Garage' has an occasional good tip 
(big on tie-wraps).

Elvis may be the best yet.


On 6/26/2024 6:05 AM, greylinn at ozemail.com.au wrote:
> Elvis for mine is the best - natural & with a good knowledge base. Ant the worst - always seemed to be 'acting' - perhaps Renee's influence? ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys<healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>  On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:16 AM
> To: Healeys<healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Healeys] Edd, Ant or Elvis?
>
> Edd is the sentimental favorite, being the first. Tall, kinda dorky, but completely knowledgeable and down-to-earth. Ant was good, too, and accessible; his fling with an American reality show star--who's now hawking quickie bathroom remodels (excessively)--doesn't count against him and, of course, he tuned and sold a Big Healey at B-J for big bucks.
> But Elvis is kinda growing on me now, and his F1 experience brings new aspects to the repairs and rebuilds.
>
> Earliest seasons are now on MotorTrend; the show's really changed over the years (I don't subscribe but get them recorded).
>
>
>
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From healeymanjim at hansencc.net  Wed Jun 26 09:10:21 2024
From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 08:10:21 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?free_stuff?=
Message-ID: <20240626151021.45111.qmail@server278.com>

if anyone needs a channel set for door seals for an older BN4, part # 805-158, yours for the shipping.  

From gradea1 at charter.net  Wed Jun 26 10:12:56 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:12:56 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Edd, Ant or Elvis?
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From manifold at telus.net  Wed Jun 26 10:27:57 2024
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:27:57 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Edd, Ant or Elvis?
In-Reply-To: <c88966ec-4778-d4ab-d7fa-d8d1a1e16e35@charter.net>
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All three were very good but I thought Edd's approach was the closest to
what most of us would do.

Harold

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 9:22?AM Hank Leach via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Actually, prior to Ant was the original mechanic, Edd China who was a real
> good seat of the pants mechanic and most informative as he shared his
> methods. Edd and Mike got into an argument with the producers who told Edd
> he had to speed up the process and cut the BS short-so he quit. Then SA
> Ant took over-he was making good money and socially married to some rich
> actress, had a kid and divorced. Such is the life of a star.
> When Ant and Mikle did the BRG BJ8 with a christmas red interior, I really
> was disappointed, but they loved it. It was to be a stock restoration but
> somehow ended up with headers and Webbers. Hank
>
> --------------------
>
> From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
> To: <greylinn at ozemail.com.au>, "'Healeys'" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: June 26, 2024 at 8:07 AM PDT
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Edd, Ant or Elvis?
> Ant was on a British show--similar to WD but funnier, and the host wasn't
> as over-the-top as Brewer--and was the same 'act,' if you will. I can't for
> the life of me remember the name of the show--it was only on briefly--but
> the intro screen had the rear end of a 100 on it. I sympathized with him
> because he always paid asking, and I can't haggle for the life of me. I
> think Renee and Ant hooked-up after Ant left the show and his American
> consort dumped him (can't for the life of me name her, but she has a
> screechy voice and annoys the hell out of me, shilling for Jacuzzi, all f'n
> day).
>
> Gotta give WD credit; going on 20 seasons (I think). Most of the American
> car shows have too much silliness and grabassery--and not much technical
> stuff--for my taste (always the same: air-bag it, stuff an LS in it and put
> huge dubs and a garish paint job on it). 'Phantom Works' was good but
> cancelled; 'Roadkill Garage' has an occasional good tip (big on tie-wraps).
>
> Elvis may be the best yet.
>
>
> On 6/26/2024 6:05 AM, greylinn at ozemail.com.au wrote:
>
> Elvis for mine is the best - natural & with a good knowledge base. Ant the worst - always seemed to be 'acting' - perhaps Renee's influence? ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:16 AM
> To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Healeys] Edd, Ant or Elvis?
>
> Edd is the sentimental favorite, being the first. Tall, kinda dorky, but completely knowledgeable and down-to-earth. Ant was good, too, and accessible; his fling with an American reality show star--who's now hawking quickie bathroom remodels (excessively)--doesn't count against him and, of course, he tuned and sold a Big Healey at B-J for big bucks.
> But Elvis is kinda growing on me now, and his F1 experience brings new aspects to the repairs and rebuilds.
>
> Earliest seasons are now on MotorTrend; the show's really changed over the years (I don't subscribe but get them recorded).
>
>
>
>
>
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun 26 10:42:45 2024
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:42:45 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
In-Reply-To: <CAFKLAdj6epAouR3okJqeDLzuYoBagSXNrzf+V03wS41dkgKg=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFKLAdj6epAouR3okJqeDLzuYoBagSXNrzf+V03wS41dkgKg=w@mail.gmail.com>
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I used a pressure bleeder attached to a cap I made. My experience with the vacuum systems attached to the slave cylinder nipple is that they will pull air through the threads of the nipple when loose so they don?t work well in my opinion.

 

Concerning pressure bleeders: Be forewarned that Motive Products make a pour bleeding system! The pressure bottle is good but the caps do not fit. I tried to work with them about this issue and spoke with a senior manager and the former owner to try to resolve the issue with the cap that would not fit and seal the system to it could be pressurized. I went as far as sending them a cap from a bottle of PVC solvent that is the same thread a Healey brake fluid reservoir to they could find a cap to fit. They just blew is off and did not help!

 

John Spaur 

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Elton S via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:55 PM
To: Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

 

Fellow Listers,

I need to replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What technique have you used? Did you just drain all the lines and reservoir and then refill with new fluid? Then bleeding to get all the air out? Or draining the lines to where the reservoir is almost empty and then adding new fluid so as to prevent air from getting in the lines? Bleeding the clutch slave cylinder is not one of my favorite pastimes.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Elton

BJ7

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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 26 12:49:00 2024
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 14:49:00 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
In-Reply-To: <001201dac7e7$e01bebf0$a053c3d0$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <CAFKLAdj6epAouR3okJqeDLzuYoBagSXNrzf+V03wS41dkgKg=w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <025301dac7f9$82760e10$87622a30$@sympatico.ca>

I had the same experience with the Motive bleeder.  The cap screws on, but it does not seal.

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Spaur via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 12:43 PM
To: 'Elton S' <eps2660 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Healey List' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

 

I used a pressure bleeder attached to a cap I made. My experience with the vacuum systems attached to the slave cylinder nipple is that they will pull air through the threads of the nipple when loose so they don?t work well in my opinion.

 

Concerning pressure bleeders: Be forewarned that Motive Products make a pour bleeding system! The pressure bottle is good but the caps do not fit. I tried to work with them about this issue and spoke with a senior manager and the former owner to try to resolve the issue with the cap that would not fit and seal the system to it could be pressurized. I went as far as sending them a cap from a bottle of PVC solvent that is the same thread a Healey brake fluid reservoir to they could find a cap to fit. They just blew is off and did not help!

 

John Spaur 

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Elton S via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:55 PM
To: Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

 

Fellow Listers,

I need to replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What technique have you used? Did you just drain all the lines and reservoir and then refill with new fluid? Then bleeding to get all the air out? Or draining the lines to where the reservoir is almost empty and then adding new fluid so as to prevent air from getting in the lines? Bleeding the clutch slave cylinder is not one of my favorite pastimes.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Elton

BJ7

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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Wed Jun 26 12:54:35 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 14:54:35 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
In-Reply-To: <5be129e2-bc6d-40fd-8851-4e16aee741f8@chello.nl>
References: <CAFKLAdj6epAouR3okJqeDLzuYoBagSXNrzf+V03wS41dkgKg=w@mail.gmail.com>
 <5be129e2-bc6d-40fd-8851-4e16aee741f8@chello.nl>
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B5eTjYnZZ49mNdbAQL_k8syjzVgzWQ2q8hBDrOrUUFpCg@mail.gmail.com>

Prior to DOT's promulgating that brake fluid must be clear/amber in color
the task of doing a fluid change was made easier by virtue of ATE's
producing hydraulic fluid in both clear and blue, and it was easy to see
when the old fluid ceased and new fluid began to come through the bleed
nipples.

After the blue ATE fluid became unavailable I did a Google search for a die
made specifically for brake and similar fluids with the intention of making
my own colored fluid.   I also viewed a YouTube video on the topic.
Unfortunately I lost it and since I have not yet felt the need to do a
fluid change I cannot testify to its effectiveness but assumedly the die is
still out there.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 3:17?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Best and safest way is to drain the system from the bleed nipples at the
> brake callipers/cylinders. Fill up the reservoir to the max with fresh
> brake fluid, then use a vacuum pump to drain the fluid beginning with
> the wheel furthest away from the master cylinder. Be very careful to top
> up the master cylinder during the process, you do not want to get air in
> the system. Drain until the clear and clean brake fluid brake fluid
> starts showing in the tube connecting the vacuum hand pump and bleed
> nipple and tighten the nipple.
>
> Another method is using an Easybleed set. This is a pressure reservoir
> that screws on to the brake fluid reservoir. Fill up the reservoir with
> clean fluid according to the instructions and pressurise the reservoir
> slightly. Then open up the bleed nipples one by one until clean and
> clear brake fluid appears. Be very careful though not to overfill or
> over-pressurise as. This will cause spilling/spreading brake fluid. Not
> good for your paint
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
> Op 26-6-2024 om 03:54 schreef Elton S via Healeys:
> > Fellow Listers,
> > I need to replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What
> > technique have you used? Did you just drain all the lines and
> > reservoir and then refill with new fluid? Then bleeding to get all the
> > air out? Or draining the lines to where the reservoir is almost empty
> > and then adding new fluid so as to prevent air from getting in the
> > lines? Bleeding the clutch slave cylinder is not one of my favorite
> > pastimes.
> > Thanks in advance for your advice.
> > Elton
> > BJ7
> >
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From manifold at telus.net  Wed Jun 26 13:22:14 2024
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 12:22:14 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
In-Reply-To: <025301dac7f9$82760e10$87622a30$@sympatico.ca>
References: <CAFKLAdj6epAouR3okJqeDLzuYoBagSXNrzf+V03wS41dkgKg=w@mail.gmail.com>
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 <025301dac7f9$82760e10$87622a30$@sympatico.ca>
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I modified an old reservoir cap with misc. spare parts. Looks ugly but it
seals and I can attach a pump. Picture attached.

Harold

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:55?AM <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> I had the same experience with the Motive bleeder.  The cap screws on, but
> it does not seal.
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *John
> Spaur via Healeys
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2024 12:43 PM
> *To:* 'Elton S' <eps2660 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Healey List' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
>
>
>
> I used a pressure bleeder attached to a cap I made. My experience with the
> vacuum systems attached to the slave cylinder nipple is that they will pull
> air through the threads of the nipple when loose so they don?t work well in
> my opinion.
>
>
>
> Concerning pressure bleeders: Be forewarned that Motive Products make a
> pour *bleeding system!* The pressure bottle is good but the *caps do not
> fit.* I tried to work with them about this issue and spoke with a senior
> manager and the former owner to try to resolve the issue with the cap that
> would not fit and seal the system to it could be pressurized. I went as far
> as sending them a cap from a bottle of PVC solvent that is the same thread
> a Healey brake fluid reservoir to they could find a cap to fit. They just
> blew is off and did not help!
>
>
>
> John Spaur
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
> <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *Elton S via Healeys
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:55 PM
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
>
>
>
> Fellow Listers,
>
> I need to replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What technique
> have you used? Did you just drain all the lines and reservoir and then
> refill with new fluid? Then bleeding to get all the air out? Or draining
> the lines to where the reservoir is almost empty and then adding new fluid
> so as to prevent air from getting in the lines? Bleeding the clutch slave
> cylinder is not one of my favorite pastimes.
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice.
>
> Elton
>
> BJ7
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun 26 13:27:41 2024
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 12:27:41 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCCQc+NjccGnVmpf4j7iAxo7R+aiSWYObD1epYRogie28Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFKLAdj6epAouR3okJqeDLzuYoBagSXNrzf+V03wS41dkgKg=w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <02d001dac7fe$eadbb9a0$c0932ce0$@sbcglobal.net>

I made one too. The threads on the Motive Products cap are square cut or not machined properly. I tried several of their other caps and none of them sealed. The are screwed up and don?t know it.

 

From: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 12:22 PM
To: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca
Cc: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>; Elton S <eps2660 at gmail.com>; Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

 

I modified an old reservoir cap with misc. spare parts. Looks ugly but it seals and I can attach a pump. Picture attached.

 

Harold

 

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:55?AM <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca <mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> > wrote:

I had the same experience with the Motive bleeder.  The cap screws on, but it does not seal.

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of John Spaur via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 12:43 PM
To: 'Elton S' <eps2660 at gmail.com <mailto:eps2660 at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'Healey List' <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

 

I used a pressure bleeder attached to a cap I made. My experience with the vacuum systems attached to the slave cylinder nipple is that they will pull air through the threads of the nipple when loose so they don?t work well in my opinion.

 

Concerning pressure bleeders: Be forewarned that Motive Products make a pour bleeding system! The pressure bottle is good but the caps do not fit. I tried to work with them about this issue and spoke with a senior manager and the former owner to try to resolve the issue with the cap that would not fit and seal the system to it could be pressurized. I went as far as sending them a cap from a bottle of PVC solvent that is the same thread a Healey brake fluid reservoir to they could find a cap to fit. They just blew is off and did not help!

 

John Spaur 

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Elton S via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:55 PM
To: Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

 

Fellow Listers,

I need to replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What technique have you used? Did you just drain all the lines and reservoir and then refill with new fluid? Then bleeding to get all the air out? Or draining the lines to where the reservoir is almost empty and then adding new fluid so as to prevent air from getting in the lines? Bleeding the clutch slave cylinder is not one of my favorite pastimes.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Elton

BJ7

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From kentmclean at comcast.net  Wed Jun 26 13:54:16 2024
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 15:54:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Healeys] Edd, Ant or Elvis? (Bob Spidell)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1719424804.26490.healeys@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.3.1719424804.26490.healeys@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1969193065.897319.1719431656507@connect.xfinity.com>

Bob Spidell wrote:
> Edd is the sentimental favorite, being the first. 

The answer is obvious: Mary Ann, not Ginger.

- Kent

From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 26 14:08:46 2024
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:08:46 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCCQc+NjccGnVmpf4j7iAxo7R+aiSWYObD1epYRogie28Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFKLAdj6epAouR3okJqeDLzuYoBagSXNrzf+V03wS41dkgKg=w@mail.gmail.com>
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 <025301dac7f9$82760e10$87622a30$@sympatico.ca>
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Message-ID: <026601dac804$a7a4c9f0$f6ee5dd0$@sympatico.ca>

Thanks for posting the photo Harold. I have it on my ?to do? list to find a solution, but it is on about page 53.  It will move to the top of the list the day I need it.

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 3:22 PM
To: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca
Cc: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>; Elton S <eps2660 at gmail.com>; Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

 

I modified an old reservoir cap with misc. spare parts. Looks ugly but it seals and I can attach a pump. Picture attached.

 

Harold

 

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:55?AM <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca <mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> > wrote:

I had the same experience with the Motive bleeder.  The cap screws on, but it does not seal.

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of John Spaur via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 12:43 PM
To: 'Elton S' <eps2660 at gmail.com <mailto:eps2660 at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'Healey List' <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

 

I used a pressure bleeder attached to a cap I made. My experience with the vacuum systems attached to the slave cylinder nipple is that they will pull air through the threads of the nipple when loose so they don?t work well in my opinion.

 

Concerning pressure bleeders: Be forewarned that Motive Products make a pour bleeding system! The pressure bottle is good but the caps do not fit. I tried to work with them about this issue and spoke with a senior manager and the former owner to try to resolve the issue with the cap that would not fit and seal the system to it could be pressurized. I went as far as sending them a cap from a bottle of PVC solvent that is the same thread a Healey brake fluid reservoir to they could find a cap to fit. They just blew is off and did not help!

 

John Spaur 

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Elton S via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:55 PM
To: Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

 

Fellow Listers,

I need to replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What technique have you used? Did you just drain all the lines and reservoir and then refill with new fluid? Then bleeding to get all the air out? Or draining the lines to where the reservoir is almost empty and then adding new fluid so as to prevent air from getting in the lines? Bleeding the clutch slave cylinder is not one of my favorite pastimes.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Elton

BJ7

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From rfbegani at gmail.com  Wed Jun 26 14:18:26 2024
From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:18:26 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
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Sorry Richard if you cannot expand the size of the picture, however you can see how it is out of your sight when you are behind the wheel.  Also, the original mirror is no longer in your line of site.  Once you obtain one of these mirrors, you will have to get use to wetting the suction cup to hold it on the glass while driving.  Also, while parked in a hot garage it will lose its grip and fall off the glass.  I have thought about gluing the cup to the glass..  If you obtain one let me have your comments.  Meanwhile, I love the opportunity to view 90 plus degrees behind me when driving.

 

Bob Begani

 

From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:54 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors

 

Hey Bob 

Attach a photo. 

Tks

Regards, 

Richard C

BN7 440





On Jun 25, 2024, at 17:30, rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>  wrote:

? 

I know this will sound good for most of our Healey owners, however finally I got tired of trying to see the 2 mirrors on my front fenders and the tiny one on the dash.  First, I tried clip on panoramic mirrors on the dash mirror.  Not very good as they kept falling off and were too low really see behind.  Next, I tried a panoramic mirror attached with a suction cup, but it kept fall in off the window.  Finally, I found the best mirror for seeing behind and the sides.  It had a great suction cup with the ability to tighten the fixture, so it was really locked on the window, although I is not glued to the window.   Also, the panoramic feature allowed me to raise it up to the top of the windscreen.  I bought it from amazon:

 

Bittwee Car Rear View Mirror, HD 360? Adjustable Anti-glare Adjustable Extra Wide Automotive Panoramic Rear View Mirror with Suction Cup, Interior Decor...

 

Also, I removed the original mirror from the dash so I can see ahead and the sides of the road.. 

 

Regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 BJ8

 

 

 

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From rfbegani at gmail.com  Wed Jun 26 14:41:00 2024
From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:41:00 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
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Maybe you can see this picture as I enlarged it.  The other improvement in my BJ8 is to install a clear plastic shield behind the front seats mounted to the rail used for the tonneau cover.  I bought it from LBCarCo, so I will stop losing hats in the wind and my wife will not complain about the wind in her hair.  You can just see it in both pictures.

 

Cannot show everything as the car is in the shop having the engine rebuilt in Florida while I am in at our summer home in Michigan.

 

Bob 

 

 

From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:54 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors

 

Hey Bob 

Attach a photo. 

Tks

Regards, 

Richard C

BN7 440





On Jun 25, 2024, at 17:30, rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>  wrote:

? 

I know this will sound good for most of our Healey owners, however finally I got tired of trying to see the 2 mirrors on my front fenders and the tiny one on the dash.  First, I tried clip on panoramic mirrors on the dash mirror.  Not very good as they kept falling off and were too low really see behind.  Next, I tried a panoramic mirror attached with a suction cup, but it kept fall in off the window.  Finally, I found the best mirror for seeing behind and the sides.  It had a great suction cup with the ability to tighten the fixture, so it was really locked on the window, although I is not glued to the window.   Also, the panoramic feature allowed me to raise it up to the top of the windscreen.  I bought it from amazon:

 

Bittwee Car Rear View Mirror, HD 360? Adjustable Anti-glare Adjustable Extra Wide Automotive Panoramic Rear View Mirror with Suction Cup, Interior Decor...

 

Also, I removed the original mirror from the dash so I can see ahead and the sides of the road.. 

 

Regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 BJ8

 

 

 

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From rfbegani at gmail.com  Wed Jun 26 14:45:50 2024
From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:45:50 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
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I indicated it was on Amazon.  Look it up.  Attached is a larger picture.

 

Regards,

 

Bob 

 

 

 

From: Elton S <eps2660 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 3:24 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors

 

I googled Bittwee mirrors but came up empty. Do they have a website you can share?

Thanks,

Elton

 

On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 6:27?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

I know this will sound good for most of our Healey owners, however finally I got tired of trying to see the 2 mirrors on my front fenders and the tiny one on the dash.  First, I tried clip on panoramic mirrors on the dash mirror.  Not very good as they kept falling off and were too low really see behind.  Next, I tried a panoramic mirror attached with a suction cup, but it kept fall in off the window.  Finally, I found the best mirror for seeing behind and the sides.  It had a great suction cup with the ability to tighten the fixture, so it was really locked on the window, although I is not glued to the window.   Also, the panoramic feature allowed me to raise it up to the top of the windscreen.  I bought it from amazon:

 

Bittwee Car Rear View Mirror, HD 360? Adjustable Anti-glare Adjustable Extra Wide Automotive Panoramic Rear View Mirror with Suction Cup, Interior Decor...

 

Also, I removed the original mirror from the dash so I can see ahead and the sides of the road.. 

 

Regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 BJ8

 

 

 

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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Wed Jun 26 15:40:47 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 17:40:47 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
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This was my effort incorporating a pair of very old ski boot clamps. I've
used it for years in conjunction with my Snap-On pressure bleeder.

On Wed., Jun. 26, 2024, 5:35 p.m. , <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Thanks for posting the photo Harold. I have it on my ?to do? list to find
> a solution, but it is on about page 53.  It will move to the top of the
> list the day I need it.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2024 3:22 PM
> *To:* m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca
> *Cc:* John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>; Elton S <eps2660 at gmail.com>;
> Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
>
>
>
> I modified an old reservoir cap with misc. spare parts. Looks ugly but it
> seals and I can attach a pump. Picture attached.
>
>
>
> Harold
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:55?AM <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> I had the same experience with the Motive bleeder.  The cap screws on, but
> it does not seal.
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *John
> Spaur via Healeys
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2024 12:43 PM
> *To:* 'Elton S' <eps2660 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Healey List' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
>
>
>
> I used a pressure bleeder attached to a cap I made. My experience with the
> vacuum systems attached to the slave cylinder nipple is that they will pull
> air through the threads of the nipple when loose so they don?t work well in
> my opinion.
>
>
>
> Concerning pressure bleeders: Be forewarned that Motive Products make a
> pour *bleeding system!* The pressure bottle is good but the *caps do not
> fit.* I tried to work with them about this issue and spoke with a senior
> manager and the former owner to try to resolve the issue with the cap that
> would not fit and seal the system to it could be pressurized. I went as far
> as sending them a cap from a bottle of PVC solvent that is the same thread
> a Healey brake fluid reservoir to they could find a cap to fit. They just
> blew is off and did not help!
>
>
>
> John Spaur
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
> <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *Elton S via Healeys
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:55 PM
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
>
>
>
> Fellow Listers,
>
> I need to replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What technique
> have you used? Did you just drain all the lines and reservoir and then
> refill with new fluid? Then bleeding to get all the air out? Or draining
> the lines to where the reservoir is almost empty and then adding new fluid
> so as to prevent air from getting in the lines? Bleeding the clutch slave
> cylinder is not one of my favorite pastimes.
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice.
>
> Elton
>
> BJ7
>
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From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 26 16:30:28 2024
From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 22:30:28 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
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Thanks; got them, looks good.
I understand the situation. My windshield cell phone holder falls off similarly. I still have the one mirror on each wing and on the dash. I attached the wing mirrors years ago as I thought maybe they would work attached to the doors. But that didn?t solve the problem so I went with the wings. Not great but workable.  I had also tried the wide angle mirror clipped on to the dash mirror but I didn?t find it helpful.
Just a thought: auto parts stores sell an epoxy glue to reglue windshield mirrors that have been knocked off. That might make it more ?permanent?.
Thanks again
Regards,
Richard C
BN7 #440

On Jun 26, 2024, at 15:41, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:

?
Maybe you can see this picture as I enlarged it.  The other improvement in my BJ8 is to install a clear plastic shield behind the front seats mounted to the rail used for the tonneau cover.  I bought it from LBCarCo, so I will stop losing hats in the wind and my wife will not complain about the wind in her hair.  You can just see it in both pictures.

Cannot show everything as the car is in the shop having the engine rebuilt in Florida while I am in at our summer home in Michigan.

Bob


From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:54 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors

Hey Bob
Attach a photo.
Tks
Regards,
Richard C
BN7 440


On Jun 25, 2024, at 17:30, rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
?
I know this will sound good for most of our Healey owners, however finally I got tired of trying to see the 2 mirrors on my front fenders and the tiny one on the dash.  First, I tried clip on panoramic mirrors on the dash mirror.  Not very good as they kept falling off and were too low really see behind.  Next, I tried a panoramic mirror attached with a suction cup, but it kept fall in off the window.  Finally, I found the best mirror for seeing behind and the sides.  It had a great suction cup with the ability to tighten the fixture, so it was really locked on the window, although I is not glued to the window.   Also, the panoramic feature allowed me to raise it up to the top of the windscreen.  I bought it from amazon:

Bittwee Car Rear View Mirror, HD 360? Adjustable Anti-glare Adjustable Extra Wide Automotive Panoramic Rear View Mirror with Suction Cup, Interior Decor...

Also, I removed the original mirror from the dash so I can see ahead and the sides of the road..

Regards,

Bob Begani
67 BJ8



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From rfbegani at gmail.com  Wed Jun 26 18:21:42 2024
From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:21:42 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
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Yes, Richard I agree with you about the use of epoxy glue.  However, have not gone to that extent.  Try the spit on the suction cup and let me know.  Anything to make our old cars more comfortable to drive.

 

Regards,

 

Bob Begani

 

From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 6:30 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors

 

Thanks; got them, looks good. 

I understand the situation. My windshield cell phone holder falls off similarly. I still have the one mirror on each wing and on the dash. I attached the wing mirrors years ago as I thought maybe they would work attached to the doors. But that didn?t solve the problem so I went with the wings. Not great but workable.  I had also tried the wide angle mirror clipped on to the dash mirror but I didn?t find it helpful. 

Just a thought: auto parts stores sell an epoxy glue to reglue windshield mirrors that have been knocked off. That might make it more ?permanent?.

Thanks again

Regards, 

Richard C

BN7 #440





On Jun 26, 2024, at 15:41, rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>  wrote:

? 

Maybe you can see this picture as I enlarged it.  The other improvement in my BJ8 is to install a clear plastic shield behind the front seats mounted to the rail used for the tonneau cover.  I bought it from LBCarCo, so I will stop losing hats in the wind and my wife will not complain about the wind in her hair.  You can just see it in both pictures.

 

Cannot show everything as the car is in the shop having the engine rebuilt in Florida while I am in at our summer home in Michigan.

 

Bob 

 

 

From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com <mailto:gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:54 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors

 

Hey Bob 

Attach a photo. 

Tks

Regards, 

Richard C

BN7 440






On Jun 25, 2024, at 17:30, rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>  wrote:

? 

I know this will sound good for most of our Healey owners, however finally I got tired of trying to see the 2 mirrors on my front fenders and the tiny one on the dash.  First, I tried clip on panoramic mirrors on the dash mirror.  Not very good as they kept falling off and were too low really see behind.  Next, I tried a panoramic mirror attached with a suction cup, but it kept fall in off the window.  Finally, I found the best mirror for seeing behind and the sides.  It had a great suction cup with the ability to tighten the fixture, so it was really locked on the window, although I is not glued to the window.   Also, the panoramic feature allowed me to raise it up to the top of the windscreen.  I bought it from amazon:

 

Bittwee Car Rear View Mirror, HD 360? Adjustable Anti-glare Adjustable Extra Wide Automotive Panoramic Rear View Mirror with Suction Cup, Interior Decor...

 

Also, I removed the original mirror from the dash so I can see ahead and the sides of the road.. 

 

Regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 BJ8

 

 

 

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From bspidell at comcast.net  Wed Jun 26 18:29:06 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 17:29:06 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
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Since we're comparing tools, here's mine. The clip-on chuck works well 
enough.

On 6/26/2024 2:40 PM, Michael Salter wrote:
> This was my effort incorporating a pair of very old ski boot clamps. 
> I've used it for years in conjunction with my Snap-On pressure bleeder.
>
> On Wed., Jun. 26, 2024, 5:35 p.m. , <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for posting the photo Harold. I have it on my ?to do? list
>     to find a solution, but it is on about page 53. It will move to
>     the top of the list the day I need it.
>
>     Cheers, Mirek
>
>     *From:*Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2024 3:22 PM
>     *To:* m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca
>     *Cc:* John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>; Elton S
>     <eps2660 at gmail.com>; Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
>
>     I modified an old reservoir cap with misc. spare parts. Looks ugly
>     but it seals and I can attach a pump. Picture attached.
>
>     Harold
>
>     On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:55?AM <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>         I had the same experience with the Motive bleeder.? The cap
>         screws on, but it does not seal.
>
>         *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of
>         *John Spaur via Healeys
>         *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2024 12:43 PM
>         *To:* 'Elton S' <eps2660 at gmail.com>
>         *Cc:* 'Healey List' <healeys at autox.team.net>
>         *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
>
>         I used a pressure bleeder attached to a cap I made. My
>         experience with the vacuum systems attached to the slave
>         cylinder nipple is that they will pull air through the threads
>         of the nipple when loose so they don?t work well in my opinion.
>
>         Concerning pressure bleeders: Be forewarned that Motive
>         Products make a pour _bleeding system!_The pressure bottle is
>         good but the _caps do not fit._I tried to work with them about
>         this issue and spoke with a senior manager and the former
>         owner to try to resolve the issue with the cap that would not
>         fit and seal the system to it could be pressurized. I went as
>         far as sending them a cap from a bottle of PVC solvent that is
>         the same thread a Healey brake fluid reservoir to they could
>         find a cap to fit. They just blew is off and did not help!
>
>         John Spaur
>
>         *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
>         <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *Elton
>         S via Healeys
>         *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:55 PM
>         *To:* Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net>
>         *Subject:* [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
>
>         Fellow Listers,
>
>         I need to replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What
>         technique have you used? Did you just drain all the lines and
>         reservoir and then refill with new fluid? Then bleeding to get
>         all the air out? Or draining the lines to where the reservoir
>         is almost empty and then adding new fluid so as to prevent air
>         from getting in the lines? Bleeding the clutch slave cylinder
>         is not one of my favorite pastimes.
>
>         Thanks in advance for your advice.
>
>         Elton
>
>         BJ7
>
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From engl at accesscomm.ca  Wed Jun 26 19:45:19 2024
From: engl at accesscomm.ca (Engl)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 19:45:19 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Thu Jun 27 02:06:22 2024
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:06:22 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
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Very nice sheepskin covers for the seats. Very comfortable on leather 
and/or vinyl. I have had them in my J-H's since 1977.

Kees Oudesluijs


Op 26-6-2024 om 22:18 schreef Bob Begani via Healeys:
>
> Sorry Richard if you cannot expand the size of the picture, however 
> you can see how it is out of your sight when you are behind the 
> wheel.? Also, the original mirror is no longer in your line of site.? 
> Once you obtain one of these mirrors, you will have to get use to 
> wetting the suction cup to hold it on the glass while driving.? Also, 
> while parked in a hot garage it will lose its grip and fall off the 
> glass.? I have thought about gluing the cup to the glass..? If you 
> obtain one let me have your comments.? Meanwhile, I love the 
> opportunity to view 90 plus degrees behind me when driving.
>
> Bob Begani
>
> *From:* Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:54 PM
> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
>
> Hey Bob
>
> Attach a photo.
>
> Tks
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard C
>
> BN7 440
>
>
>
>     On Jun 25, 2024, at 17:30, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>
>     ?
>
>     I know this will sound good for most of our Healey owners, however
>     finally I got tired of trying to see the 2 mirrors on my front
>     fenders and the tiny one on the dash.? First, I tried clip on
>     panoramic mirrors on the dash mirror.? Not very good as they kept
>     falling off and were too low really see behind.? Next, I tried a
>     panoramic mirror attached with a suction cup, but it kept fall in
>     off the window.? Finally, I found the best mirror for seeing
>     behind and the sides.? It had a great suction cup with the ability
>     to tighten the fixture, so it was really locked on the window,
>     although I is not glued to the window. ??Also, the panoramic
>     feature allowed me to raise it up to the top of the windscreen.? I
>     bought it from amazon:
>
>     Bittwee Car Rear View Mirror, HD 360? Adjustable Anti-glare
>     Adjustable Extra Wide Automotive Panoramic Rear View Mirror with
>     Suction Cup, Interior Decor...
>
>     Also, I removed the original mirror from the dash so I can see
>     ahead and the sides of the road..
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Bob Begani
>
>     67 BJ8
>
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Thu Jun 27 04:45:43 2024
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:45:43 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
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The glue probably wont stick to the plastic suction cup. You could try a 
smear of windscreen sealant on the suction cup or, less permanent and 
readily available, some Vaseline.

Kees Oudesluijs


Op 27-6-2024 om 00:30 schreef Richard Collins via Healeys:
> Thanks; got them, looks good.
> I understand the situation. My windshield cell phone holder falls off 
> similarly. I still have the one mirror on each wing and on the dash. I 
> attached the wing mirrors years ago as I thought maybe they would work 
> attached to the doors. But that didn?t solve the problem so I went 
> with the wings. Not great but workable. ?I had also tried the wide 
> angle mirror clipped on to the dash mirror but I didn?t find it helpful.
> Just a thought: auto parts stores sell an epoxy glue to reglue 
> windshield mirrors that have been knocked off. That might make it more 
> ?permanent?.
> Thanks again
> Regards,
> Richard C
> BN7 #440
>
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 15:41, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Maybe you can see this picture as I enlarged it.? The other 
>> improvement in my BJ8 is to install a clear plastic shield behind the 
>> front seats mounted to the rail used for the tonneau cover.? I bought 
>> it from LBCarCo, so I will stop losing hats in the wind and my wife 
>> will not complain about the wind in her hair.? You can just see it in 
>> both pictures.
>>
>> Cannot show everything as the car is in the shop having the engine 
>> rebuilt in Florida while I am in at our summer home in Michigan.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> *From:* Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:54 PM
>> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
>> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
>>
>> Hey Bob
>>
>> Attach a photo.
>>
>> Tks
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard C
>>
>> BN7 440
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Jun 25, 2024, at 17:30, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     I know this will sound good for most of our Healey owners,
>>     however finally I got tired of trying to see the 2 mirrors on my
>>     front fenders and the tiny one on the dash.? First, I tried clip
>>     on panoramic mirrors on the dash mirror.? Not very good as they
>>     kept falling off and were too low really see behind.? Next, I
>>     tried a panoramic mirror attached with a suction cup, but it kept
>>     fall in off the window.? Finally, I found the best mirror for
>>     seeing behind and the sides.? It had a great suction cup with the
>>     ability to tighten the fixture, so it was really locked on the
>>     window, although I is not glued to the window. ??Also, the
>>     panoramic feature allowed me to raise it up to the top of the
>>     windscreen.? I bought it from amazon:
>>
>>     Bittwee Car Rear View Mirror, HD 360? Adjustable Anti-glare
>>     Adjustable Extra Wide Automotive Panoramic Rear View Mirror with
>>     Suction Cup, Interior Decor...
>>
>>     Also, I removed the original mirror from the dash so I can see
>>     ahead and the sides of the road..
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Bob Begani
>>
>>     67 BJ8
>>
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>> <rear view mirror 11.jpg>
>> <rear view mirror 22.jpg>
>
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Thu Jun 27 08:07:06 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:07:06 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] FP681 original Union key
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References: <CAB3i7LJtbJKSqkMjB2AMTE_g8iLKiCgeYt09RduFfoqABxZGpw@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks for all the useful leads.
I have found a vendor with exactly what I require.

M

On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 1:28?PM josef-eckert at t-online.de <
josef-eckert at t-online.de> wrote:

> Hello Mike,
> If you are not in a hurry I can have a  look at Beaulieu Autojumble in
> September.  I am sure I will find a genuine one or more for you. They are
> usually sold for about 3 to 5 Brit. Pounds each (+ postage to you). I am
> looking there for keys anyway.
> Just  tell me if you like one or more of those. Are you sure you need a FP
> key for your BN2 and not a FA key?
>
> You can e-mail me directly.
> Best wishes,
> Josef Eckert
> K?nigswinter Germany
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] FP681 original Union key
>
> Datum: 2024-06-25T17:14:58+0200
>
> Von: "Michael MacLean" <springer.mike51 at gmail.com>
>
> An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com>, "Ahealey help" <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://triple-c.com/Original_Wilmot_Breeden_Keys.cfm
>
> Mike MacLean
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:34?PM Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for an original Wilmot Breedon key for my BN2.
>> FP681
>>
>> Anyone have one that I can buy?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> M
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From ryan at jimryan.com  Thu Jun 27 11:08:38 2024
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:08:38 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
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I have no interest in what is behind me as they are slower so not somebody
I want to associate with.  If somebody needs me and is behind me they can
turn on the siren.

This is well documented here
<https://youtu.be/AjGXn249Fc0?si=ypvHkAnDgU6a43Dm>.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 6:52?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> The glue probably wont stick to the plastic suction cup. You could try a
> smear of windscreen sealant on the suction cup or, less permanent and
> readily available, some Vaseline.
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
> Op 27-6-2024 om 00:30 schreef Richard Collins via Healeys:
>
> Thanks; got them, looks good.
> I understand the situation. My windshield cell phone holder falls off
> similarly. I still have the one mirror on each wing and on the dash. I
> attached the wing mirrors years ago as I thought maybe they would work
> attached to the doors. But that didn?t solve the problem so I went with the
> wings. Not great but workable.  I had also tried the wide angle mirror
> clipped on to the dash mirror but I didn?t find it helpful.
> Just a thought: auto parts stores sell an epoxy glue to reglue windshield
> mirrors that have been knocked off. That might make it more ?permanent?.
> Thanks again
> Regards,
> Richard C
> BN7 #440
>
> On Jun 26, 2024, at 15:41, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>
> ?
>
> Maybe you can see this picture as I enlarged it.  The other improvement in
> my BJ8 is to install a clear plastic shield behind the front seats mounted
> to the rail used for the tonneau cover.  I bought it from LBCarCo, so I
> will stop losing hats in the wind and my wife will not complain about the
> wind in her hair.  You can just see it in both pictures.
>
>
>
> Cannot show everything as the car is in the shop having the engine rebuilt
> in Florida while I am in at our summer home in Michigan.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com>
> <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:54 PM
> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Rear View mirrors
>
>
>
> Hey Bob
>
> Attach a photo.
>
> Tks
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard C
>
> BN7 440
>
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2024, at 17:30, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>
> ?
>
> I know this will sound good for most of our Healey owners, however finally
> I got tired of trying to see the 2 mirrors on my front fenders and the tiny
> one on the dash.  First, I tried clip on panoramic mirrors on the dash
> mirror.  Not very good as they kept falling off and were too low really see
> behind.  Next, I tried a panoramic mirror attached with a suction cup, but
> it kept fall in off the window.  Finally, I found the best mirror for
> seeing behind and the sides.  It had a great suction cup with the ability
> to tighten the fixture, so it was really locked on the window, although I
> is not glued to the window.   Also, the panoramic feature allowed me to
> raise it up to the top of the windscreen.  I bought it from amazon:
>
>
>
> Bittwee Car Rear View Mirror, HD 360? Adjustable Anti-glare Adjustable
> Extra Wide Automotive Panoramic Rear View Mirror with Suction Cup, Interior
> Decor...
>
>
>
> Also, I removed the original mirror from the dash so I can see ahead and
> the sides of the road..
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> <rear view mirror 22.jpg>
>
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Fri Jun 28 08:12:53 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:12:53 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
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To those who have fitted AL cylinder heads: Did you leave the head
unpainted or clear-coated to show that it is an AL head or did you paint it
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Fri Jun 28 09:27:14 2024
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 17:27:14 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
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Do not paint/clear coat/powder coat at all. It does not stick to well on 
aluminium. An unfinished aluminium head will dissipate heat better and 
looks much nicer.

Op 28-6-2024 om 16:12 schreef Michael Oritt:
> To those who have fitted AL cylinder heads: Did you leave the head 
> unpainted or clear-coated to show that it is an AL head or did you 
> paint it to match the engine?
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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Fri Jun 28 09:42:53 2024
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 17:42:53 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
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 I painted mine with the engine Block. So its very hard to see its an 
aluminium head. I used a two pack primer. This was done more than 10 years 
ago and its still immaculate.

Josef Eckert
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Betreff: [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
Datum: 28.06.2024, 16:41 Uhr
An: Austin Healey <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
>
To those who have fitted AL cylinder heads: Did you leave the head 
unpainted or clear-coated to show that it is an AL head or did you paint it 
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From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun 28 13:39:21 2024
From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks)
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 19:39:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 110
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I left my Denis Welch standard road head bare aluminium. Never got round to painting it.
Mike Brooks56 BN2 Scotland

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Subject: [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
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To those who have fitted AL cylinder heads: Did you leave the head
unpainted or clear-coated to show that it is an AL head or did you paint it
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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 17:27:14 +0200
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
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Do not paint/clear coat/powder coat at all. It does not stick to well on 
aluminium. An unfinished aluminium head will dissipate heat better and 
looks much nicer.

Op 28-6-2024 om 16:12 schreef Michael Oritt:
> To those who have fitted AL cylinder heads: Did you leave the head 
> unpainted or clear-coated to show that it is an AL head or did you 
> paint it to match the engine?
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From: josef-eckert at t-online.de
To: michael.oritt at gmail.com, healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
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 I painted mine with the engine Block. So its very hard to see its an 
aluminium head. I used a two pack primer. This was done more than 10 years 
ago and its still immaculate.

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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sat Jun 29 08:00:28 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:00:28 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] FW: Moss Motors merger
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References: <F18A6688-29D3-48F5-8E13-4E2AF4F67BE8@gmail.com>
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I still check out Jalopnik (don't ask me why; I really don't know). I 
just came across this; the comments section is germane to this thread:

https://jalopnik.com/heres-why-so-many-people-are-quitting-big-youtube-car-c-1851566397


On 6/24/2024 8:20 AM, ahbn6--- via Healeys wrote:
> Another true story.  I went to the local Pep Boys store years ago to get some 30 wt non-detergent oil for my tranny and was told by the clerk that it was stopped manufactured years ago.  This was confirmed by the "manager"  I then went to an Advance auto parts and bought a quart. Back to Pep Boys, showed them the oil and was told that it was a discontinued item and should not by used. Idiots. I put another 5,000 miles on my Healey. They lost a customer for life.
> John Sims
> www.healey6.com
> Matawan, NJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys<healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>  On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 10:20 AM
> To: Bob Spidell<bspidell at comcast.net>
> Cc:healeys at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger
>
> Moss's acquisition of Rimmer Bros. and the phenomenon of Ma & Pa hardware stores' becoming part of the Ace brand are both examples of the acquisition/consolidation trend that now dominates business and professional organizations, including physicians, dentists, veterinarians, CPA. attorneys, hospitals, funeral homes, pharmacies, specialty retail stores, restaurants, etc. etc.--you name it and and you don't have to look very hard to find an example of where an individual proprietorship is now owned by or affiliated with some larger conglomeration.   The former owner has moved to Florida and oftentimes his place has been taken by someone who was flipping burgers last week.
>
> In almost all cases the promise of better prices resulting from "economy of scale" never materializes and personal relationships and quality of service suffer because of sales quotas that must be achieved or due to limitations placed upon time that can be spent with a customer, client or patient.  My local Ace now has about 25% of its square footage devoted to either its "outdoor department" or what I call a home store. Many of the retail sales personnel know a lot less than I do about what they are selling. Big Box "hardware" stores are even worse with employees who receive little training and little or no experience.  Plus you can only buy fasteners in prepacked quantities to defeat shoplifters and in plastic enclosures that defy opening without a box cutter or the like.
>
> True story:  I once went into a national hardware chain store in need of a nail set.  When I was unable to find one I asked a young sales clerk for help and he told me they only sold nails by the box.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 9:11?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net  <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net>  > wrote:
>
>
> 	
> 	Ace is definitely a cut above the big box stores for service and selection (stores are much nicer too). But, prices are higher. They're they only place around here to get Stihl equipment.
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	On 6/23/2024 2:32 PM, Leonard Hartnett wrote:
> 	
>
> 		?
> 		Bob"  Once upon a time, there was a family owned hardware store in the city where we lived for 40+ years.   Then Home Depot, Walmart, etc. moved in.  I cannot attest to any facts but I believe that that competition with its buying power was what made them become an ACE hardware store.  Thankfully, I have not seen any major changes in service or product.  Several times, when unable to find what I am looking for at the major chain store, the salesperson will recommend that I go to that local store, still referring to it by its original name, not an Ace store.   It is still part of the history of the city.  I was able to buy two (2) wood screws that I needed, not a pack of 6 or more.  I now refer to it as a museum.
> 		
> 		              The Other Len
> 		1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
> 		                HBJ8L39031
> 		              224,925  miles
> 		
>
> 			----- Original Message -----
> 			From: Bob Spidell<mailto:bspidell at comcast.net>   
> 			To:healeys at autox.team.net  <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>   
> 			Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 11:48 AM
> 			Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss Motors merger
>
> 			I'm generally not in favor of private money snarfing up independent businesses, larding them up with debt--dunno if that's the case here, but these guys like to use OPM--laying off staff, taking a big cut then pawning the remains off to 'the greater fool(s)' (see: rural hospital systems). I have a personal experience: I went to the same optometrist for over 30 years, then he sold out to one of these; a relatively small one, like this appears to be. He was a 'car guy,' into VW vans, and we'd trade articles off-hours and he always seemed to give me a little extra attention (at times, his staff would have to pull him out of our conversations). After he was acquired, he seemed harried and I felt the staff was really trying to expedite all appointments; I suspect--but don't know for a fact--he was on a some sort of quota or mandatory revenue system. I've heard lots of similar stories and I can't think of any where a product or service has been improved after the money boys took over. Anybody?
> 			
> 			OTOH, this is a small, specialty business, and it may be the only way some of them can survive at all. Time will tell.
> 			
> 			Bob
> 			
> 			
> 			
>
>
>
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Sun Jun 30 04:23:21 2024
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 11:23:21 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
Message-ID: <000001dacad7$89289ad0$9b79d070$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Thanks to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has cleared
somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is something that I've
cruelly overlooked down the years. Seemingly I explored and took you down
every avenue, looked at every suspect etcetc...all in vain. If it's any
comfort - to you, I mean - I had the gearbox out, the clutch off, the
overdrive's clutches rebuilt etcetc and all for nowt!
Car's performing well now. Fingers crossed. If it does it again...Toyota 5
speed or swap the brute for a 964 Sport!
Simon
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From warthodson at aol.com  Sun Jun 30 07:51:46 2024
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 13:51:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
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 Toyota 5 speeds & 964's have master cylinders, too.
    On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 05:52:36 AM CDT, Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:   

  
Thanks to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has cleared somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is something that I?ve cruelly overlooked down the years. Seemingly I explored and took you down every avenue, looked at every suspect etcetc?..all in vain. If it?s any comfort ? to you, I mean ? I had the gearbox out, the clutch off, the overdrive?s clutches rebuilt etcetc and all for nowt!

Car?s performing well now. Fingers crossed. If it does it again?..Toyota 5 speed or swap the brute for a 964 Sport!

Simon
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sun Jun 30 08:28:53 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 10:28:53 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
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Goes back to the old adage ...
*Correct diagnosis is 50% of the repair!!*

M

On Sun., Jun. 30, 2024, 9:57 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Toyota 5 speeds & 964's have master cylinders, too.
>
> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 05:52:36 AM CDT, Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has cleared
> somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is something that I?ve
> cruelly overlooked down the years. Seemingly I explored and took you down
> every avenue, looked at every suspect etcetc?..all in vain. If it?s any
> comfort ? to you, I mean ? I had the gearbox out, the clutch off, the
> overdrive?s clutches rebuilt etcetc and all for nowt!
>
> Car?s performing well now. Fingers crossed. If it does it again?..Toyota
> 5 speed or swap the brute for a 964 Sport!
>
> Simon
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From roggrace at telus.net  Sun Jun 30 09:08:47 2024
From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 08:08:47 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
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... and also without the charm of an overdrive engaging  !

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On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 7:13?AM warthodson--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Toyota 5 speeds & 964's have master cylinders, too.
>
> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 05:52:36 AM CDT, Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has cleared
> somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is something that I?ve
> cruelly overlooked down the years. Seemingly I explored and took you down
> every avenue, looked at every suspect etcetc?..all in vain. If it?s any
> comfort ? to you, I mean ? I had the gearbox out, the clutch off, the
> overdrive?s clutches rebuilt etcetc and all for nowt!
>
> Car?s performing well now. Fingers crossed. If it does it again?..Toyota
> 5 speed or swap the brute for a 964 Sport!
>
> Simon
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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Sun Jun 30 09:10:59 2024
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:10:59 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
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And don`t expect a correct diagnosis from people who are no experts and not 
in direct touch with the car. 
 
 
 
 
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
Datum: 2024-06-30T16:57:03+0200
Von: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
An: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
 
 
 
Goes back to the old adage ...
Correct diagnosis is 50% of the repair!!
 
M

On Sun., Jun. 30, 2024, 9:57 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:
   
  Toyota 5 speeds & 964's have master cylinders, too.
   
  On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 05:52:36 AM CDT, Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
  healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:
     
     
    Thanks to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has cleared
    somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is something that
    I?ve cruelly overlooked down the years. Seemingly I explored and took
    you down every avenue, looked at every suspect etcetc?..all in vain. If
    it?s any comfort ? to you, I mean ? I had the gearbox out, the clutch
    off, the overdrive?s clutches rebuilt etcetc and all for nowt!
    Car?s performing well now. Fingers crossed. If it does it
    again?..Toyota 5 speed or swap the brute for a 964 Sport!
    Simon
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Jun 30 10:50:45 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 09:50:45 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
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I, for one, don't necessary expect a 'correct diagnosis'--or any 
diagnosis, for that matter--when I pose a question to the List (or a 
forum). By the time I post an inquiry, I'm usually out of ideas and I'm 
just looking for a few more. Even absurd ones (first I've heard of this 
particular issue, though I'm well aware of the function and frailty of 
the foot valve mechanism). But that's just me.


On 6/30/2024 8:10 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> And don`t expect a correct diagnosis from people who are no experts 
> and not in direct touch with the car.
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
>
> Datum: 2024-06-30T16:57:03+0200
>
> Von: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
>
> An: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
> Goes back to the old adage ...
> *Correct diagnosis is 50% of the repair!!*
> **
> M
>
> On Sun., Jun. 30, 2024, 9:57 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     Toyota 5 speeds & 964's have master cylinders, too.
>     On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 05:52:36 AM CDT, Simon Lachlan via
>     Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     Thanks to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has
>     cleared somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is
>     something that I?ve cruelly overlooked down the years. Seemingly I
>     explored and took you down every avenue, looked at every suspect
>     etcetc?..all in vain. If it?s any comfort? to you, I mean ? I had
>     the gearbox out, the clutch off, the overdrive?s clutches
>     rebuiltetcetcand all for nowt!
>
>     Car?s performing well now. Fingers crossed. If it does it
>     again?..Toyota 5 speed or swap the brute for a 964 Sport!
>
>     Simon
>
>     ?
>
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Sun Jun 30 11:41:18 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:41:18 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Sun Jun 30 11:55:40 2024
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:55:40 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
In-Reply-To: <a9fda22d-920f-4de9-9135-37d287e9e38c@comcast.net>
References: <000001dacad7$89289ad0$9b79d070$@alexarevel.plus.com>
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The point for an answerer is, you usually do not know about the skills of 
the questioner. So what can you expect, a semi-expert who knows what he/she 
is talking about or one who even doesn?t know of what he/she is talking 
about. Some questions even tell me any answer wouldn`t help the questioner, 
as he/she even doesn?t understand what`s ment with the answer.
 
Josef Eckert
 
 
 
 
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
Datum: 2024-06-30T19:26:37+0200
Von: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
An: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
 
 
 
I, for one, don't necessary expect a 'correct diagnosis'--or any diagnosis, 
for that matter--when I pose a question to the List (or a forum). By the 
time I post an inquiry, I'm usually out of ideas and I'm just looking for a 
few more. Even absurd ones (first I've heard of this particular issue, 
though I'm well aware of the function and frailty of the foot valve 
mechanism). But that's just me.


On 6/30/2024 8:10 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote:

    And don`t expect a correct diagnosis from people who are no experts and
    not in direct touch with the car. 
     
     
     
     
    -----Original-Nachricht-----
    Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
    Datum: 2024-06-30T16:57:03+0200
    Von: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
    <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com>
    An: "healeys at autox.team.net" <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
    <healeys at autox.team.net> <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
     
     
     
    Goes back to the old adage ...
    Correct diagnosis is 50% of the repair!!
     
    M

    On Sun., Jun. 30, 2024, 9:57 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
    healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:
       
      Toyota 5 speeds & 964's have master cylinders, too.
       
      On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 05:52:36 AM CDT, Simon Lachlan via
      Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
      wrote:
         
         
        Thanks to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has clear
        ed somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is something
        that I?ve cruelly overlooked down the years. Seemingly I explored
        and took you down every avenue, looked at every suspect
        etcetc?..all in vain. If it?s any comfort ? to you, I mean ? I had
        the gearbox out, the clutch off, the overdrive?s clutches rebuilt 
        etcetc and all for nowt!
        Car?s performing well now. Fingers crossed. If it does it
        again?..Toyota 5 speed or swap the brute for a 964 Sport!
        Simon

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From ynotink at msn.com  Sun Jun 30 16:19:43 2024
From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 22:19:43 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
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The world is full of self described ?experts?, many of whom have no more insight into any particular question than the average participant  on this forum. Half the value is in the speculation about the problem and the eventual solution. And the other half is in the educational value for the confused questioner.
Are you saying that no one should ask questions, or that only ?experts? should answer? In that case nobody learns anything and in many cases the questioner remains confused and frustrated many times ending in an advertisement stating ?Ran when parked?. That does nothing to benefit owners or the hobby.
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2024 5:55 PM
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>; Healey, Forum <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive


The point for an answerer is, you usually do not know about the skills of the questioner. So what can you expect, a semi-expert who knows what he/she is talking about or one who even doesn?t know of what he/she is talking about. Some questions even tell me any answer wouldn`t help the questioner, as he/she even doesn?t understand what`s ment with the answer.



Josef Eckert









-----Original-Nachricht-----

Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive

Datum: 2024-06-30T19:26:37+0200

Von: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>

An: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>







I, for one, don't necessary expect a 'correct diagnosis'--or any diagnosis, for that matter--when I pose a question to the List (or a forum). By the time I post an inquiry, I'm usually out of ideas and I'm just looking for a few more. Even absurd ones (first I've heard of this particular issue, though I'm well aware of the function and frailty of the foot valve mechanism). But that's just me.


On 6/30/2024 8:10 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote:

And don`t expect a correct diagnosis from people who are no experts and not in direct touch with the car.









-----Original-Nachricht-----

Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive

Datum: 2024-06-30T16:57:03+0200

Von: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com><mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com>

An: "healeys at autox.team.net"<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net><mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>







Goes back to the old adage ...
Correct diagnosis is 50% of the repair!!

M

On Sun., Jun. 30, 2024, 9:57 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Toyota 5 speeds & 964's have master cylinders, too.

On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 05:52:36 AM CDT, Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:



Thanks to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has cleared somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is something that I?ve cruelly overlooked down the years. Seemingly I explored and took you down every avenue, looked at every suspect etcetc?..all in vain. If it?s any comfort ? to you, I mean ? I had the gearbox out, the clutch off, the overdrive?s clutches rebuilt etcetc and all for nowt!

Car?s performing well now. Fingers crossed. If it does it again?..Toyota 5 speed or swap the brute for a 964 Sport!

Simon



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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Sun Jun 30 16:49:56 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:49:56 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
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Curt--

That's my plan--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 5:12?PM Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> Paint the head with the rest of the engine. You can't tell the difference
> from the original cast iron head.
>
> Curt
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 9:33?AM Josef Eckert via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I painted mine with the engine Block. So its very hard to see its an
>> aluminium head. I used a two pack primer. This was done more than 10 years
>> ago and its still immaculate.
>>
>> Josef Eckert
>> K?nigswinter Germany
>>
>> Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App
>>
>> -- Original-Nachricht --
>>
>> *Von:* Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
>>
>> *Betreff:* [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
>>
>> *Datum:* 28.06.2024, 16:41 Uhr
>>
>> *An:* Austin Healey <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> To those who have fitted AL cylinder heads: Did you leave the head
>> unpainted or clear-coated to show that it is an AL head or did you paint it
>> to match the engine?
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From craiginchico at gmail.com  Sun Jun 30 17:02:19 2024
From: craiginchico at gmail.com (Craig Cooper)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:02:19 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 17, Issue 113
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Re Clutch Push Rod

And sometimes you get some real gems, like how to set your ignition timing
with a vacuum gauge, which I saw today on the Healey Experience Forum and
tried out on my beater BJ8 powered BN6.  Worked pretty well.

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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>, "Healey,  Forum" <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:55:40 +0200 (CEST)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
>
> The point for an answerer is, you usually do not know about the skills of
> the questioner. So what can you expect, a semi-expert who knows what he/she
> is talking about or one who even doesn?t know of what he/she is talking
> about. Some questions even tell me any answer wouldn`t help the questioner,
> as he/she even doesn?t understand what`s ment with the answer.
>
>
>
> Josef Eckert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
>
> Datum: 2024-06-30T19:26:37+0200
>
> Von: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
>
> An: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I, for one, don't necessary expect a 'correct diagnosis'--or any
> diagnosis, for that matter--when I pose a question to the List (or a
> forum). By the time I post an inquiry, I'm usually out of ideas and I'm
> just looking for a few more. Even absurd ones (first I've heard of this
> particular issue, though I'm well aware of the function and frailty of the
> foot valve mechanism). But that's just me.
>
>
> On 6/30/2024 8:10 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> And don`t expect a correct diagnosis from people who are no experts and
> not in direct touch with the car.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive
>
> Datum: 2024-06-30T16:57:03+0200
>
> Von: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com> <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
>
> An: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> <healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Goes back to the old adage ...
> *Correct diagnosis is 50% of the repair!!*
>
> M
>
> On Sun., Jun. 30, 2024, 9:57 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Toyota 5 speeds & 964's have master cylinders, too.
>>
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 05:52:36 AM CDT, Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has cleared
>> somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is something that I?ve
>> cruelly overlooked down the years. Seemingly I explored and took you
>> down every avenue, looked at every suspect etcetc?..all in vain. If it?s
>> any comfort ? to you, I mean ? I had the gearbox out, the clutch off,
>> the overdrive?s clutches rebuilt etcetc and all for nowt!
>>
>> Car?s performing well now. Fingers crossed. If it does it again?..Toyota
>> 5 speed or swap the brute for a 964 Sport!
>>
>> Simon
>>
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From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Sun Jun 30 17:54:48 2024
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:54:48 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
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Great!

On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 3:50?PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Curt--
>
> That's my plan--Michael Oritt
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 5:12?PM Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> Paint the head with the rest of the engine. You can't tell the difference
>> from the original cast iron head.
>>
>> Curt
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 9:33?AM Josef Eckert via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I painted mine with the engine Block. So its very hard to see its an
>>> aluminium head. I used a two pack primer. This was done more than 10 years
>>> ago and its still immaculate.
>>>
>>> Josef Eckert
>>> K?nigswinter Germany
>>>
>>> Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App
>>>
>>> -- Original-Nachricht --
>>>
>>> *Von:* Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> *Betreff:* [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
>>>
>>> *Datum:* 28.06.2024, 16:41 Uhr
>>>
>>> *An:* Austin Healey <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>> To those who have fitted AL cylinder heads: Did you leave the head
>>> unpainted or clear-coated to show that it is an AL head or did you paint it
>>> to match the engine?
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From javrugtman at htcnet.org  Sun Jun 30 20:27:51 2024
From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 22:27:51 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
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Well, at least in the 6 cylinder version from Denis Welsh with new head 
bolts the casting has Denis Welsh cast into it and the head bolts have 
allen sockets.

John
64 BJ9

On 6/30/2024 6:49 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> Curt--
>
> That's my plan--Michael Oritt
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 5:12?PM Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Michael,
>
>     Paint the head with the rest?of the engine. You can't tell the
>     difference from the original cast iron head.
>
>     Curt
>
>     On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 9:33?AM Josef Eckert via Healeys
>     <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>         I painted mine with the engine Block. So its very hard to see
>         its an aluminium head. I used a two pack primer. This was done
>         more than 10 years ago and its still immaculate.
>
>         Josef Eckert
>         K?nigswinter Germany
>
>         Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App
>
>         -- Original-Nachricht --
>
>         *Von:* Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
>
>         *Betreff:* [Healeys] To paint--or not--an aluminum head
>
>         *Datum:* 28.06.2024, 16:41 Uhr
>
>         *An:* Austin Healey <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>         To those who have fitted AL cylinder heads: Did you leave the
>         head unpainted or clear-coated to show that it is an AL head
>         or did you paint it to match the engine?
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