From josef-eckert at t-online.de Mon Jul 1 01:13:05 2024 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 09:13:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive In-Reply-To: References: <000001dacad7$89289ad0$9b79d070$@alexarevel.plus.com> <2094266670.314183.1719755506179@mail.yahoo.com> <1719760259265.1023623.08dfe1a471e1e3e29ec5409c03a94d595192bbb9@spica.telekom.de> <1719770140510.945222.f94df5f9cc1f266bd5a0038f7d8641b9e30bc9b3@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: <1719817985310.1054895.481c799066881b91c7495032fdfedb0d0475a2de@spica.telekom.de> Bill, I am working in the classic car business and I call me an expert in car electrics. When I get a question, often I know the cause of the problem. I am also responsible maintaining and repair cars in a bigger classic car collection. But in order to reliably identify the cause of the problem, I also have to carry out certain measurements and if I can't do this myself and have to explain to someone what to do, then it's often pointless. The other person probably doesn't have the necessary measuring device and maybe he doesn't even understand what else I need to know in order to be able to help at all via the Internet. The individual components of the vehicle's electrical system and their function and interaction with each other are often not clear to the questioner. He is simply overwhelmed. If people then answer who don't recognize the problem themselves and send the questioner in completely the wrong direction, then I usually give up because there is no solution in sight. When it comes to overdrive or clutch problems, I can probably find out very quickly whether the clutch or overdrive is the cause. But I have to drive the car myself, otherwise I'm going around in circles trying to find the cause. Resume: The internet is nice, but you can only give help with small errors. Otherwise it can end up in chaos and cause more damage than it actually helps. This is often more expensive than taking the car directly to a competent workshop. Most times its better to tell the questioner to bring his car to a competent garage. I suspect that?s easier here in Europe than in the less dense areas of the United States or Australia. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter/Germany -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive Datum: 2024-07-01T00:19:48+0200 Von: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" An: "josef-eckert--- via Healeys" , "Bob Spidell" , "josef-eckert at t-online.de" The world is full of self described ?experts?, many of whom have no more insight into any particular question than the average participant on this forum. Half the value is in the speculation about the problem and the eventual solution. And the other half is in the educational value for the confused questioner. Are you saying that no one should ask questions, or that only ?experts? should answer? In that case nobody learns anything and in many cases the questioner remains confused and frustrated many times ending in an advertisement stating ?Ran when parked?. That does nothing to benefit owners or the hobby. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Healeys on behalf of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2024 5:55 PM To: Bob Spidell ; Healey, Forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive The point for an answerer is, you usually do not know about the skills of the questioner. So what can you expect, a semi-expert who knows what he/she is talking about or one who even doesn?t know of what he/she is talking about. Some questions even tell me any answer wouldn`t help the questioner, as he/she even doesn?t understand what`s ment with the answer. Josef Eckert -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive Datum: 2024-06-30T19:26:37+0200 Von: "Bob Spidell" An: "healeys at autox.team.net" I, for one, don't necessary expect a 'correct diagnosis'--or any diagnosis, for that matter--when I pose a question to the List (or a forum). By the time I post an inquiry, I'm usually out of ideas and I'm just looking for a few more. Even absurd ones (first I've heard of this particular issue, though I'm well aware of the function and frailty of the foot valve mechanism). But that's just me. On 6/30/2024 8:10 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote: And don`t expect a correct diagnosis from people who are no experts and not in direct touch with the car. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive Datum: 2024-06-30T16:57:03+0200 Von: "Michael Salter" An: "healeys at autox.team.net" Goes back to the old adage ... Correct diagnosis is 50% of the repair!! M On Sun., Jun. 30, 2024, 9:57 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net > wrote: Toyota 5 speeds & 964's have master cylinders, too. On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 05:52:36 AM CDT, Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: Thanks to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has clear ed somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is something that I?ve cruelly overlooked down the years. Seemingly I explored and took you down every avenue, looked at every suspect etcetc?..all in vain. If it?s any comfort ? to you, I mean ? I had the gearbox out, the clutch off, the overdrive?s clutches rebuilt etcetc and all for nowt! Car?s performing well now. Fingers crossed. If it does it again?..Toyota 5 speed or swap the brute for a 964 Sport! Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josef-eckert at t-online.de Mon Jul 1 01:35:06 2024 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 09:35:06 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive Message-ID: <1719819306619.1046709.39103eb4691b83d2a4c0a937745f192af0dceae6@spica.telekom.de> Bill, I am working in the classic car business and I call me an expert in car electrics. When I get a question, often I know the cause of the problem. I am also responsible maintaining and repair cars in a bigger classic car collection. But in order to reliably identify the cause of the problem, I also have to carry out certain measurements and if I can't do this myself and have to explain to someone what to do, then it's often pointless. The other person probably doesn't have the necessary measuring device and maybe he doesn't even understand what else I need to know in order to be able to help at all via the Internet. The individual components of the vehicle's electrical system and their function and interaction with each other are often not clear to the questioner. He is simply overwhelmed. If people then answer who don't recognize the problem themselves and send the questioner in completely the wrong direction, then I usually give up because there is no solution in sight. When it comes to overdrive or clutch problems, I can probably find out very quickly whether the clutch or overdrive is the cause. But I have to drive the car myself, otherwise I'm going around in circles trying to find the cause. Resume: The internet is nice, but you can only give help with small errors. Otherwise it can end up in chaos and cause more damage than it actually helps. This is often more expensive than taking the car directly to a competent workshop. Most times its better to tell the questioner to bring his car to a competent garage. I suspect that?s easier here in Europe than in the less dense areas of the United States or Australia. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter/Germany -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive Datum: 2024-07-01T00:19:48+0200 Von: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" An: "josef-eckert--- via Healeys" , "Bob Spidell" , "josef-eckert at t-online.de" The world is full of self described ?experts?, many of whom have no more insight into any particular question than the average participant on this forum. Half the value is in the speculation about the problem and the eventual solution. And the other half is in the educational value for the confused questioner. Are you saying that no one should ask questions, or that only ?experts? should answer? In that case nobody learns anything and in many cases the questioner remains confused and frustrated many times ending in an advertisement stating ?Ran when parked?. That does nothing to benefit owners or the hobby. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Healeys on behalf of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2024 5:55 PM To: Bob Spidell ; Healey, Forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive The point for an answerer is, you usually do not know about the skills of the questioner. So what can you expect, a semi-expert who knows what he/she is talking about or one who even doesn?t know of what he/she is talking about. Some questions even tell me any answer wouldn`t help the questioner, as he/she even doesn?t understand what`s ment with the answer. Josef Eckert -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive Datum: 2024-06-30T19:26:37+0200 Von: "Bob Spidell" An: "healeys at autox.team.net" I, for one, don't necessary expect a 'correct diagnosis'--or any diagnosis, for that matter--when I pose a question to the List (or a forum). By the time I post an inquiry, I'm usually out of ideas and I'm just looking for a few more. Even absurd ones (first I've heard of this particular issue, though I'm well aware of the function and frailty of the foot valve mechanism). But that's just me. On 6/30/2024 8:10 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote: And don`t expect a correct diagnosis from people who are no experts and not in direct touch with the car. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive Datum: 2024-06-30T16:57:03+0200 Von: "Michael Salter" An: "healeys at autox.team.net" Goes back to the old adage ... Correct diagnosis is 50% of the repair!! M On Sun., Jun. 30, 2024, 9:57 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net > wrote: Toyota 5 speeds & 964's have master cylinders, too. On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 05:52:36 AM CDT, Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: Thanks to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has clear ed somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is something that I?ve cruelly overlooked down the years. Seemingly I explored and took you down every avenue, looked at every suspect etcetc?..all in vain. If it?s any comfort ? to you, I mean ? I had the gearbox out, the clutch off, the overdrive?s clutches rebuilt etcetc and all for nowt! Car?s performing well now. Fingers crossed. If it does it again?..Toyota 5 speed or swap the brute for a 964 Sport! 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As an alternative, Jim Smalley found an artisan in England who was making perfect reproductions of these badges for the same price I paid Karla to restore my original [$500 USD]; however, my copper base required laser welding to fill in several gouges which upped the price. The fifth attached photo of three badges are these reproductions. Cheers, Curtis On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 9:57?AM Michael Oritt wrote: > Please see the two attached pics showing first, how the badge on my early > aftermet finned valve cover should look and second, how mine appears. The > cloisonne is in good condition but the chrome plating is gone. > > Can the badge be replated without destroying the cloisonne and if so does > anyone have a recommendation for where I might get this work done? > > Best--Michael Oritt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Karla is a personal friend, lives 5 miles from me and is in high demand from Pebble Beach restorers. She is also not inexpensive. > Maxwell Enamels | Emblem Restoration > > Let me see if I can contact her to see if your badge can be re-plated without damaging the red enamel. > > As an alternative, Jim Smalley found an artisan in England who was making perfect reproductions of these badges for the same price I paid Karla to restore my original [$500 USD]; however, my copper base required laser welding to fill in several gouges which upped the price. > > The fifth attached photo of three badges are these reproductions. > > Cheers, > > Curtis > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 9:57?AM Michael Oritt > wrote: > Please see the two attached pics showing first, how the badge on my early aftermet finned valve cover should look and second, how mine appears. The cloisonne is in good condition but the chrome plating is gone. > > Can the badge be replated without destroying the cloisonne and if so does anyone have a recommendation for where I might get this work done? > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From austin.healey at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 06:05:07 2024 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:05:07 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Cape of Good Hope pub Warwick Message-ID: Hi all I was at the Cape of Good Hope Pub in Warwick England last year. When I lived in Warwick 35 years ago, there used to be a framed ?statement? on the wall, to the effect of ?DMH used to come here for lunch?. In the main pub area. Anyone have a photo please? Not the 1990 plaque Much older. Best Chris From michael.oritt at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 19:02:49 2024 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:02:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Valve Cover badge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jake-- Just want to let you know that I made contact with Brad last night and bought a plaque for the valve cover from him today. He said he won't be able to send it for a week or so as he is away from home but he sent me a pic and it looked good. Thanks for the info--Michael On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 1:34?PM Jake V wrote: > Brad Coxon in WA has reproduced these badges, there's an ad for them in > the AHExp buy/sell forum. He may share where he had his done, maybe they > can help? > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 12:46?PM Michael Oritt > wrote: > >> Please see the two attached pics showing first, how the badge on my early >> aftermet finned valve cover should look and second, how mine appears. The >> cloisonne is in good condition but the chrome plating is gone. >> >> Can the badge be replated without destroying the cloisonne and if so does >> anyone have a recommendation for where I might get this work done? >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishauto at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britishauto at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 19:31:00 2024 From: britishauto at gmail.com (Jake V) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:31:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Valve Cover badge In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Excellent, glad to help. Jake On Tue, Jul 2, 2024, 9:03 PM Michael Oritt wrote: > Jake-- > > Just want to let you know that I made contact with Brad last night and > bought a plaque for the valve cover from him today. He said he won't be > able to send it for a week or so as he is away from home but he sent me a > pic and it looked good. > > Thanks for the info--Michael > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 1:34?PM Jake V wrote: > >> Brad Coxon in WA has reproduced these badges, there's an ad for them in >> the AHExp buy/sell forum. He may share where he had his done, maybe they >> can help? >> >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 12:46?PM Michael Oritt >> wrote: >> >>> Please see the two attached pics showing first, how the badge on my >>> early aftermet finned valve cover should look and second, how mine >>> appears. 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Thanks, Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sat Jul 6 02:05:18 2024 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 09:05:18 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] More Consolidation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001dacf7b$3eeff050$bccfd0f0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Probably because Steve's moved on from Healeys. At least, pretty much. I think that latterly he's been running down his stock except maybe for a few quite rare bits & bobs. That's purely based on looking for stuff on his site and a few conversations. Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Friday, July 5, 2024 3:52 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] More Consolidation I just received notice that AH Spares has 'acquired' Cape International. Possibly a good thing. bs _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus. com From gradea1 at charter.net Sat Jul 6 10:17:17 2024 From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach) Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 16:17:17 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know an aluminium head would fix the whole high compression problem, but I am not there yet. Thanks, Ken Freese 65 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net From roggrace at telus.net Sun Jul 7 06:31:57 2024 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:31:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Some time ago I saw a BJ8 that had a 12V vacuum release valve fitted for this reason. Opened to atmosphere as soon as you cut the ignition with immediate engine shut off. Not a cure but a work around. >From memory think there was a T in the booster hose. rg On Fri., Jul. 5, 2024, 6:57 p.m. Ken Freese via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Which technique will minimize dieseling on my BJ8, using the slow run > valve for a low idle or closing the slow run valve and using the > throttle screw for a low idle? Joe Curto hasn't responded yet. > I know an aluminium head would fix the whole high compression problem, > but I am not there yet. > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From goldengt at cal.net Sun Jul 7 14:33:18 2024 From: goldengt at cal.net (goldengt at cal.net) Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 13:33:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0795caefdd82b42eb89085af3faa8a9c@cal.net> I already do the dump the clutch technique. I have found that that the slower the idle the less run on, probably due to less fuel present. In a round about way my question was probably which idle technique gives a leaner mixture? Maybe at a specified idle speed the mixtures are the same. Since American cars of the 70's used idle solenoids, I am thinking I could put on a solenoid for the idle with ignition off. When ignition is off the throttle blades go completely closed. Combined with a low idle I might be less irritated. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 On 2024-07-05 11:54, Ken Freese via Healeys wrote: > Which technique will minimize dieseling on my BJ8, using the slow run > valve for a low idle or closing the slow run valve and using the > throttle screw for a low idle? Joe Curto hasn't responded yet. > I know an aluminium head would fix the whole high compression problem, > but I am not there yet. > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/goldengt at cal.net From goldengt at cal.net Sun Jul 7 14:34:22 2024 From: goldengt at cal.net (goldengt at cal.net) Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 13:34:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I like it! Ken On 2024-07-07 05:31, Roger Grace wrote: > Some time ago I saw a BJ8 that had a 12V vacuum release valve fitted > for this reason. Opened to atmosphere as soon as you cut the ignition > with immediate engine shut off. Not a cure but a work around. > From memory think there was a T in the booster hose. > rg > > On Fri., Jul. 5, 2024, 6:57 p.m. Ken Freese via Healeys, > wrote: > >> Which technique will minimize dieseling on my BJ8, using the slow >> run >> valve for a low idle or closing the slow run valve and using the >> throttle screw for a low idle? Joe Curto hasn't responded yet. >> I know an aluminium head would fix the whole high compression >> problem, >> but I am not there yet. >> Thanks, >> Ken Freese >> 65 BJ8 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun Jul 7 16:01:18 2024 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 18:01:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued In-Reply-To: <0795caefdd82b42eb89085af3faa8a9c@cal.net> References: <0795caefdd82b42eb89085af3faa8a9c@cal.net> Message-ID: The later model MGB used an "Anti Run-on Valve" which subjected the float chambers to manifold vacuum when the key was turned off. I would think one could be installed on a BJ8 without too much difficulty. M On Sun., Jul. 7, 2024, 5:11 p.m. Ken Freese via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I already do the dump the clutch technique. > I have found that that the slower the idle the less run on, probably due > to less fuel present. > In a round about way my question was probably which idle technique gives > a leaner mixture? Maybe at a specified idle speed the mixtures are the > same. > Since American cars of the 70's used idle solenoids, I am thinking I > could put on a solenoid for the idle with ignition off. When ignition is > off the throttle blades go completely closed. Combined with a low idle I > might be less irritated. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > > On 2024-07-05 11:54, Ken Freese via Healeys wrote: > > Which technique will minimize dieseling on my BJ8, using the slow run > > valve for a low idle or closing the slow run valve and using the > > throttle screw for a low idle? 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Bill L awrence ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2024 10:01 PM To: goldengt Cc: AustinHealeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued The later model MGB used an "Anti Run-on Valve" which subjected the float chambers to manifold vacuum when the key was turned off. I would think one could be installed on a BJ8 without too much difficulty. M On Sun., Jul. 7, 2024, 5:11 p.m. Ken Freese via Healeys, > wrote: I already do the dump the clutch technique. I have found that that the slower the idle the less run on, probably due to less fuel present. In a round about way my question was probably which idle technique gives a leaner mixture? Maybe at a specified idle speed the mixtures are the same. Since American cars of the 70's used idle solenoids, I am thinking I could put on a solenoid for the idle with ignition off. When ignition is off the throttle blades go completely closed. Combined with a low idle I might be less irritated. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 On 2024-07-05 11:54, Ken Freese via Healeys wrote: > Which technique will minimize dieseling on my BJ8, using the slow run > valve for a low idle or closing the slow run valve and using the > throttle screw for a low idle? Joe Curto hasn't responded yet. > I know an aluminium head would fix the whole high compression problem, > but I am not there yet. > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/goldengt at cal.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 8 09:14:21 2024 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 08:14:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued In-Reply-To: References: <0795caefdd82b42eb89085af3faa8a9c@cal.net> Message-ID: <41dcd3d6-9b11-4234-87f0-44159621772b@comcast.net> Did it prevent run-on? On 7/7/2024 11:02 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote: > The TR 6 (circa 1974) had a solenoid valve that dumped manifold vacuum > when the ignition switch was turned off. > > Bill L awrence > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Michael > Salter via Healeys > *Sent:* Sunday, July 7, 2024 10:01 PM > *To:* goldengt > *Cc:* AustinHealeylist > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued > The later model MGB used an "Anti Run-on Valve" which subjected the > float chambers to manifold vacuum when the key was turned off. I? > would think one could be installed on a BJ8 without too much difficulty. > > M > > On Sun., Jul. 7, 2024, 5:11 p.m. Ken Freese via Healeys, > wrote: > > I already do the dump the clutch technique. > I have found that that the slower the idle the less run on, > probably due > to less fuel present. > In a round about way my question was probably which idle technique > gives > a leaner mixture? Maybe at a specified idle speed the mixtures are > the > same. > Since American cars of the 70's used idle solenoids, I am thinking I > could put on a solenoid for the idle with ignition off. When > ignition is > off the throttle blades go completely closed. Combined with a low > idle I > might be less irritated. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > > On 2024-07-05 11:54, Ken Freese via Healeys wrote: > > Which technique will minimize dieseling on my BJ8, using the > slow run > > valve for a low idle or closing the slow run valve and using the > > throttle screw for a low idle? Joe Curto hasn't responded yet. > > I know an aluminium head would fix the whole high compression > problem, > > but I am not there yet. > > Thanks, > > Ken Freese > > 65 BJ8 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From goldengt at cal.net Mon Jul 8 14:57:00 2024 From: goldengt at cal.net (Ken) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2024 13:57:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4WHxJF1zPHzSyLbR@allmail.cal.net> That sounds better yet. Just a tee at the power brake hose.KenSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Date: 7/7/24 11:02 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Michael Salter via Healeys , goldengt , Michael Salter Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued The TR 6 (circa 1974) had a solenoid valve that dumped manifold vacuum when the ignition switch was turned off. Bill L awrence From: Healeys on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2024 10:01 PM To: goldengt Cc: AustinHealeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued ? The later model MGB used an "Anti Run-on Valve" which subjected the float chambers to manifold vacuum when the key was turned off. I? would think one could be installed on a BJ8 without too much difficulty.? M On Sun., Jul. 7, 2024, 5:11 p.m. Ken Freese via Healeys, wrote: I already do the dump the clutch technique. I have found that that the slower the idle the less run on, probably due to less fuel present. In a round about way my question was probably which idle technique gives a leaner mixture? Maybe at a specified idle speed the mixtures are the same. Since American cars of the 70's used idle solenoids, I am thinking I could put on a solenoid for the idle with ignition off. When ignition is off the throttle blades go completely closed. Combined with a low idle I might be less irritated. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 On 2024-07-05 11:54, Ken Freese via Healeys wrote: > Which technique will minimize dieseling on my BJ8, using the slow run > valve for a low idle or closing the slow run valve and using the > throttle screw for a low idle? Joe Curto hasn't responded yet. > I know an aluminium head would fix the whole high compression problem, > but I am not there yet. > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/goldengt at cal.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Jul 8 15:49:12 2024 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 17:49:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued In-Reply-To: <41dcd3d6-9b11-4234-87f0-44159621772b@comcast.net> References: <0795caefdd82b42eb89085af3faa8a9c@cal.net> <41dcd3d6-9b11-4234-87f0-44159621772b@comcast.net> Message-ID: Totally stopped any run-on. M On Mon., Jul. 8, 2024, 11:19 a.m. Bob Spidell, wrote: > Did it prevent run-on? > > > On 7/7/2024 11:02 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote: > > The TR 6 (circa 1974) had a solenoid valve that dumped manifold vacuum > when the ignition switch was turned off. > > Bill L awrence > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys > on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys > > *Sent:* Sunday, July 7, 2024 10:01 PM > *To:* goldengt > *Cc:* AustinHealeylist > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued > > The later model MGB used an "Anti Run-on Valve" which subjected the float > chambers to manifold vacuum when the key was turned off. I would think one > could be installed on a BJ8 without too much difficulty. > > M > > On Sun., Jul. 7, 2024, 5:11 p.m. Ken Freese via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I already do the dump the clutch technique. > I have found that that the slower the idle the less run on, probably due > to less fuel present. > In a round about way my question was probably which idle technique gives > a leaner mixture? Maybe at a specified idle speed the mixtures are the > same. > Since American cars of the 70's used idle solenoids, I am thinking I > could put on a solenoid for the idle with ignition off. When ignition is > off the throttle blades go completely closed. Combined with a low idle I > might be less irritated. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > > On 2024-07-05 11:54, Ken Freese via Healeys wrote: > > Which technique will minimize dieseling on my BJ8, using the slow run > > valve for a low idle or closing the slow run valve and using the > > throttle screw for a low idle? Joe Curto hasn't responded yet. > > I know an aluminium head would fix the whole high compression problem, > > but I am not there yet. > > Thanks, > > Ken Freese > > 65 BJ8 > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ynotink at msn.com Mon Jul 8 21:46:45 2024 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 03:46:45 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued In-Reply-To: References: <0795caefdd82b42eb89085af3faa8a9c@cal.net> <41dcd3d6-9b11-4234-87f0-44159621772b@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob Slidell, sorry I don?t have any report on that. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 9:49 PM To: Bob Spidell Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued Totally stopped any run-on. M On Mon., Jul. 8, 2024, 11:19 a.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: Did it prevent run-on? On 7/7/2024 11:02 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote: The TR 6 (circa 1974) had a solenoid valve that dumped manifold vacuum when the ignition switch was turned off. Bill L awrence ________________________________ From: Healeys

on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2024 10:01 PM To: goldengt Cc: AustinHealeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued The later model MGB used an "Anti Run-on Valve" which subjected the float chambers to manifold vacuum when the key was turned off. I would think one could be installed on a BJ8 without too much difficulty. M On Sun., Jul. 7, 2024, 5:11 p.m. Ken Freese via Healeys, > wrote: I already do the dump the clutch technique. I have found that that the slower the idle the less run on, probably due to less fuel present. In a round about way my question was probably which idle technique gives a leaner mixture? Maybe at a specified idle speed the mixtures are the same. Since American cars of the 70's used idle solenoids, I am thinking I could put on a solenoid for the idle with ignition off. When ignition is off the throttle blades go completely closed. Combined with a low idle I might be less irritated. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 On 2024-07-05 11:54, Ken Freese via Healeys wrote: > Which technique will minimize dieseling on my BJ8, using the slow run > valve for a low idle or closing the slow run valve and using the > throttle screw for a low idle? Joe Curto hasn't responded yet. > I know an aluminium head would fix the whole high compression problem, > but I am not there yet. > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From goldengt at cal.net Tue Jul 9 10:57:35 2024 From: goldengt at cal.net (Ken) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2024 09:57:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued In-Reply-To: <04a501dad1ca$cf32c1a0$6d9844e0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4WJRxW6H6tzSyLb7@allmail.cal.net> I will experiment with a mityvac and some tubing to the float bowl drain pipes to try and simulate some of the tr6 arrangements. I am not going to add a charcoal cannister!KenSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: JSARCH via Healeys Date: 7/9/24 12:07 AM (GMT-08:00) To: 'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE' , 'Michael Salter via Healeys' , 'Bob Spidell' , 'Michael Salter' Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued There are lots of suggestions for mechanical solutions for your problem, however one of the leading causes is carbon buildup on the pistons. I would suggest adding Chevron Techron into your fuel tank for a few drives. It is advertised as a solution to reduce carbon build up in the combustion chamber which is one of the leading causes of dieseling.?From: Healeys On Behalf Of WILLIAM B LAWRENCESent: Monday, July 8, 2024 8:47 PMTo: Michael Salter via Healeys ; Bob Spidell ; Michael Salter Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued?Bob Slidell, sorry I don?t have any report on that.From: Healeys on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 9:49 PMTo: Bob Spidell Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued ?Totally stopped any run-on. ?M?On Mon., Jul. 8, 2024, 11:19 a.m. Bob Spidell, wrote:Did it prevent run-on?On 7/7/2024 11:02 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote:The TR 6 (circa 1974) had a solenoid valve that dumped manifold vacuum when the ignition switch was turned off.?Bill L awrenceFrom: Healeys on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2024 10:01 PMTo: goldengt Cc: AustinHealeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued ?The later model MGB used an "Anti Run-on Valve" which subjected the float chambers to manifold vacuum when the key was turned off. I? would think one could be installed on a BJ8 without too much difficulty.? ?M?On Sun., Jul. 7, 2024, 5:11 p.m. Ken Freese via Healeys, wrote:I already do the dump the clutch technique.I have found that that the slower the idle the less run on, probably due to less fuel present.In a round about way my question was probably which idle technique gives a leaner mixture? Maybe at a specified idle speed the mixtures are the same.Since American cars of the 70's used idle solenoids, I am thinking I could put on a solenoid for the idle with ignition off. When ignition is off the throttle blades go completely closed. Combined with a low idle I might be less irritated.Ken Freese65 BJ8On 2024-07-05 11:54, Ken Freese via Healeys wrote:> Which technique will minimize dieseling on my BJ8, using the slow run> valve for a low idle or closing the slow run valve and using the> throttle screw for a low idle? Joe Curto hasn't responded yet.> I know an aluminium head would fix the whole high compression problem,> but I am not there yet.> Thanks,> Ken Freese> 65 BJ8_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation? $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 11:02:58 2024 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 10:02:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued In-Reply-To: <4WJRxW6H6tzSyLb7@allmail.cal.net> References: <4WJRxW6H6tzSyLb7@allmail.cal.net> Message-ID: Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com > On Jul 9, 2024, at 9:57?AM, Ken via Healeys wrote: > > I will experiment with a mityvac and some tubing to the float bowl drain pipes to try and simulate some of the tr6 arrangements. I am not going to add a charcoal cannister! > > Ken > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: JSARCH via Healeys > Date: 7/9/24 12:07 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: 'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE' , 'Michael Salter via Healeys' , 'Bob Spidell' , 'Michael Salter' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued > > There are lots of suggestions for mechanical solutions for your problem, however one of the leading causes is carbon buildup on the pistons. I would suggest adding Chevron Techron into your fuel tank for a few drives. It is advertised as a solution to reduce carbon build up in the combustion chamber which is one of the leading causes of dieseling. > > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 8:47 PM > To: Michael Salter via Healeys ; Bob Spidell ; Michael Salter > Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued > > > Bob Slidell, sorry I don?t have any report on that. > > From: Healeys > on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys > > Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 9:49 PM > To: Bob Spidell > > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued > > > Totally stopped any run-on. > > > M > > > On Mon., Jul. 8, 2024, 11:19 a.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > > Did it prevent run-on? > > > On 7/7/2024 11:02 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote: > > The TR 6 (circa 1974) had a solenoid valve that dumped manifold vacuum when the ignition switch was turned off. > > > Bill L awrence > > From: Healeys

on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys > Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2024 10:01 PM > To: goldengt > Cc: AustinHealeylist > Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued > > > The later model MGB used an "Anti Run-on Valve" which subjected the float chambers to manifold vacuum when the key was turned off. I would think one could be installed on a BJ8 without too much difficulty. > > > M > > > On Sun., Jul. 7, 2024, 5:11 p.m. Ken Freese via Healeys, > wrote: > > I already do the dump the clutch technique. > I have found that that the slower the idle the less run on, probably due > to less fuel present. > In a round about way my question was probably which idle technique gives > a leaner mixture? Maybe at a specified idle speed the mixtures are the > same. > Since American cars of the 70's used idle solenoids, I am thinking I > could put on a solenoid for the idle with ignition off. When ignition is > off the throttle blades go completely closed. Combined with a low idle I > might be less irritated. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > > On 2024-07-05 11:54, Ken Freese via Healeys wrote: > > Which technique will minimize dieseling on my BJ8, using the slow run > > valve for a low idle or closing the slow run valve and using the > > throttle screw for a low idle? Joe Curto hasn't responded yet. > > I know an aluminium head would fix the whole high compression problem, > > but I am not there yet. > > Thanks, > > Ken Freese > > 65 BJ8 > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Jul 15 11:10:58 2024 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:10:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] End of an era References: <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044@aol.com> All things come to an end and our ownership of our BN1 and BN2 has ended. The red 1955 BN2 was my first car that I bought for $275 in 1965. I scrounged up the funds delivering newspapers. That car followed us to Hawaii then back to PA and on to South Carolina. The modified BN1 I bought and built while living in Hawaii . Sold it to a guy in California only to buy it back years later. Probably have had 50 Healeys, big and little ones over the years. Maybe there is another one waiting out there for us but in a few days when the transport arrives to take Red and Yellow to their new homes things will be different. The garage will only hold the daily driver, tools that will not be used for vehicle maintenance anymore and miscellaneous other things that will need to be cleaned out hopefully before what ever comes next. Kimberley jokes with me and others that she gets to ?go? first so that she does not have to clean up the ?stuff?! I have known probably 40 or more other Healey owners that have previously visited the same chain of events and I always thought it would somehow be different but it?s not. These little British beasts really get under your skin but they also still bring a smile to your face . All the best to you and yours. Perry and Kimberley Sent from my iPhone From airtightproductions at me.com Mon Jul 15 11:35:49 2024 From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] End of an era In-Reply-To: <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044@aol.com> References: <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044.ref@aol.com> <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044@aol.com> Message-ID: <81b57c55-32cb-4648-88e8-12446702d213@me.com> Sorry to hear Perry. And you are correct in stating they "really get under your skin". And most of those I have owned have more than a bit of my skin under, and in, them. What's next? Relaxing, or creating another bad habit?! Whatever, not the best of news, but sometimes necessary. Cheers! Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Jul 15, 2024, at 10:29 AM, Perry Small via Healeys wrote: All things come to an end and our ownership of our BN1 and BN2 has ended. The red 1955 BN2 was my first car that I bought for $275 in 1965. I scrounged up the funds delivering newspapers. That car followed us to Hawaii then back to PA and on to South Carolina. The modified BN1 I bought and built while living in Hawaii . Sold it to a guy in California only to buy it back years later. Probably have had 50 Healeys, big and little ones over the years. Maybe there is another one waiting out there for us but in a few days when the transport arrives to take Red and Yellow to their new homes things will be different. The garage will only hold the daily driver, tools that will not be used for vehicle maintenance anymore and miscellaneous other things that will need to be cleaned out hopefully before what ever comes next. Kimberley jokes with me and others that she gets to ?go? first so that she does not have to clean up the ?stuff?! I have known probably 40 or more other Healey owners that have previously visited the same chain of events and I always thought it would somehow be different but it?s not. These little British beasts really get under your skin but they also still bring a smile to your face . All the best to you and yours. Perry and Kimberley Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyray at yahoo.com Mon Jul 15 13:49:49 2024 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] End of an era In-Reply-To: <81b57c55-32cb-4648-88e8-12446702d213@me.com> References: <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044.ref@aol.com> <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044@aol.com> <81b57c55-32cb-4648-88e8-12446702d213@me.com> Message-ID: <849028628.983823.1721072990653@mail.yahoo.com> It's been great having you for a car guy pal all these years. Here's That race program you sent me when I was researching Siatas and trying to find a Siata engine lost in the local garbage dump. At that time I was friends with Dan Hogan who drove a Siata 208 in that speed week and is listed in the program. On Monday, July 15, 2024 at 11:04:54 AM PDT, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys wrote: Sorry to hear Perry. And you are correct in stating they "really get under your skin". And most of those I have owned have more than a bit of my skin under, and in, them. What's next? Relaxing, or creating another bad habit?! Whatever, not the best of news, but sometimes necessary.? Cheers! Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Jul 15, 2024, at 10:29 AM, Perry Small via Healeys wrote: All things come to an end and our ownership of our BN1 and BN2 has ended. The red 1955 BN2 was my first car that I bought for $275 in 1965. I scrounged up the funds delivering newspapers. That car followed us to Hawaii then back to PA and on to South Carolina. The modified BN1 I bought and built while living in Hawaii . Sold it to a guy in California only to buy it back years later. Probably have had 50 Healeys, big and little ones over the years. Maybe there is another one waiting out there for us but in a few days when the transport arrives to take Red and Yellow to their new homes things will be different. The garage will only hold the daily driver, tools that will not be used for vehicle maintenance anymore and miscellaneous other things that will need to be cleaned out hopefully before what ever comes next. Kimberley jokes with me and others that she gets to ?go? first so that she does not have to clean up the ?stuff?! I have known probably 40 or more other Healey owners that have previously visited the same chain of events and I always thought it would somehow be different but it?s not. These little British beasts really get under your skin but they also still bring a smile to your face . All the best to you and yours. Perry and Kimberley Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Perry Small via Healeys Sent: Monday, July 15, 2024 1:11 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] End of an era All things come to an end and our ownership of our BN1 and BN2 has ended. The red 1955 BN2 was my first car that I bought for $275 in 1965. I scrounged up the funds delivering newspapers. That car followed us to Hawaii then back to PA and on to South Carolina. The modified BN1 I bought and built while living in Hawaii . Sold it to a guy in California only to buy it back years later. Probably have had 50 Healeys, big and little ones over the years. Maybe there is another one waiting out there for us but in a few days when the transport arrives to take Red and Yellow to their new homes things will be different. The garage will only hold the daily driver, tools that will not be used for vehicle maintenance anymore and miscellaneous other things that will need to be cleaned out hopefully before what ever comes next. Kimberley jokes with me and others that she gets to ?go? first so that she does not have to clean up the ?stuff?! I have known probably 40 or more other Healey owners that have previously visited the same chain of events and I always thought it would somehow be different but it?s not. These little British beasts really get under your skin but they also still bring a smile to your face . All the best to you and yours. Perry and Kimberley Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From eps2660 at gmail.com Mon Jul 15 18:40:05 2024 From: eps2660 at gmail.com (Elton S) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:40:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] End of an era In-Reply-To: <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044@aol.com> References: <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044.ref@aol.com> <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044@aol.com> Message-ID: Sorry to see it happen. I'm 83 and dreading the day to see my BJ7 go to another home. Elton On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 1:22?PM Perry Small via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > All things come to an end and our ownership of our BN1 and BN2 has ended. > The red 1955 BN2 was my first car that I bought for $275 in 1965. > I scrounged up the funds delivering newspapers. That car followed us to > Hawaii then back to PA and on to South Carolina. The modified BN1 I bought > and built while living in Hawaii . Sold it to a guy in California only to > buy it back years later. > Probably have had 50 Healeys, big and little ones over the years. Maybe > there is another one waiting out there for us but in a few days when the > transport arrives to take Red and Yellow to their new homes things will be > different. > The garage will only hold the daily driver, tools that will not be used > for vehicle maintenance anymore and miscellaneous other things that will > need to be cleaned out hopefully before what ever comes next. Kimberley > jokes with me and others that she gets to ?go? first so that she does not > have to clean up the ?stuff?! > I have known probably 40 or more other Healey owners that have previously > visited the same chain of events and I always thought it would somehow be > different but it?s not. These little British beasts really get under your > skin but they also still bring a smile to your face . > All the best to you and yours. > Perry and Kimberley > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hopefully you're not done driving and will have something fun in the garage! ________________ Best Regards, Al Fuller On Mon, Jul 15, 2024, 10:22?AM Perry Small via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > All things come to an end and our ownership of our BN1 and BN2 has ended. > The red 1955 BN2 was my first car that I bought for $275 in 1965. > I scrounged up the funds delivering newspapers. That car followed us to > Hawaii then back to PA and on to South Carolina. The modified BN1 I bought > and built while living in Hawaii . Sold it to a guy in California only to > buy it back years later. > Probably have had 50 Healeys, big and little ones over the years. Maybe > there is another one waiting out there for us but in a few days when the > transport arrives to take Red and Yellow to their new homes things will be > different. > The garage will only hold the daily driver, tools that will not be used > for vehicle maintenance anymore and miscellaneous other things that will > need to be cleaned out hopefully before what ever comes next. Kimberley > jokes with me and others that she gets to ?go? first so that she does not > have to clean up the ?stuff?! > I have known probably 40 or more other Healey owners that have previously > visited the same chain of events and I always thought it would somehow be > different but it?s not. These little British beasts really get under your > skin but they also still bring a smile to your face . > All the best to you and yours. > Perry and Kimberley > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kentmclean at comcast.net Tue Jul 16 12:23:01 2024 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:23:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] End of an era In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <404689936.2317359.1721154181807@connect.xfinity.com> Elton S wrote: > Sorry to see it happen. I'm 83 and dreading the day to see my BJ7 go to > another home. When us old people age out of our love affairs, who takes up the cause? My kids have no interest in my cars. I'm sure the generation after them have even less interest. (Sigh.) - Kent McLean '56 100, '60 Bugeye From gradea1 at charter.net Tue Jul 16 12:57:46 2024 From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:57:46 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] End of an era Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Some of us have been on the Healey list for about 30 years now, I think. We were once all those cool kids that had the best cars, now we're a bunch of old guys in our sunset years. I loved Perry as one of those Nasty Boy guys and as we both had some time in Oahu and knew some of the same people there was an extra bond. We're all going through the same thing now. I still love my Healeys and don't want to let them go one second sooner than we have to. But what am I going to do with all those tools, Healey parts, and memories? I've got a couple of sons, but do I want to stick them with these cars? I've been thinking of my next Auction Report column for the Healey Marque and does the term "brown furniture" ring any bells? "Brown furniture" refers to all the antiques our parents placed so much value in that nobody cares about anymore. I think that's where our Healeys are heading. I just hope we all got enough joy from them that their value as collectors' items isn't going to concern us anymore. I'd love to hear your thought on this as I still have to fill up my Auction Reports column in the Healey Marque On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 1:37?PM Perry Small via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > All things come to an end and our ownership of our BN1 and BN2 has ended. > The red 1955 BN2 was my first car that I bought for $275 in 1965. > I scrounged up the funds delivering newspapers. That car followed us to > Hawaii then back to PA and on to South Carolina. The modified BN1 I bought > and built while living in Hawaii . Sold it to a guy in California only to > buy it back years later. > Probably have had 50 Healeys, big and little ones over the years. Maybe > there is another one waiting out there for us but in a few days when the > transport arrives to take Red and Yellow to their new homes things will be > different. > The garage will only hold the daily driver, tools that will not be used > for vehicle maintenance anymore and miscellaneous other things that will > need to be cleaned out hopefully before what ever comes next. Kimberley > jokes with me and others that she gets to ?go? first so that she does not > have to clean up the ?stuff?! > I have known probably 40 or more other Healey owners that have previously > visited the same chain of events and I always thought it would somehow be > different but it?s not. 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URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 18 21:20:51 2024 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 03:20:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] End of an era In-Reply-To: References: <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044.ref@aol.com> <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044@aol.com> Message-ID: Yep, At 81 and owning a barn find BN7 (with Gary Anderson, RIP) I've put together as a driver over the last 20 years, Perry's note and others ring true. I have an original 230SL Pagoda in a neighbors garage from my mother-in-law which she purchased back in 1965 in Europe to drive to reduce import taxes when she came home back to Florida. Runs but needs some rust fixed. Been on my to do list for 15 years; And a 73 914 that I started an engine rebuild in my basement 3 years ago where it still sits. My daughter has no interest, my son cant afford them and my 12 year old grandson will be driving an EV when its time I suspect. So, what to do ? I still drive them and a few others I have. I do HPDE's and still instruct on tracks but I'm thinking time is running out on that activity also, although I think/hope I'll know when that should and will end. Tom Brady made it one extra year, I hope Mike Tyson doesn't get killed if he tries fighting again, etc. Father time just keeps on ticking as sunset is now closer to sunrise, and we now attend more funerals than weddings. Still, we car guys have a lot to be thankful for and I'm personally not ready to call Gull Wing or Alex Manos yet. I for one will continue to push "my" limits until just before someone takes my keys away. Hope to see some of you at the Lexington Concours this weekend. I'll be in a white 1989 930 Porsche (the Healey can get there no problem but I prefer AC over sunshine and engine heat.) Regards, Richard C Bowling Green, KY BN7 #440 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of HealeyRick Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2024 7:34 PM To: Perry Small Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] End of an era Watching all our Healey friends age, including myself, isn't a lot of fun. Some of us have been on the Healey list for about 30 years now, I think. We were once all those cool kids that had the best cars, now we're a bunch of old guys in our sunset years. I loved Perry as one of those Nasty Boy guys and as we both had some time in Oahu and knew some of the same people there was an extra bond. We're all going through the same thing now. I still love my Healeys and don't want to let them go one second sooner than we have to. But what am I going to do with all those tools, Healey parts, and memories? I've got a couple of sons, but do I want to stick them with these cars? I've been thinking of my next Auction Report column for the Healey Marque and does the term "brown furniture" ring any bells? "Brown furniture" refers to all the antiques our parents placed so much value in that nobody cares about anymore. I think that's where our Healeys are heading. I just hope we all got enough joy from them that their value as collectors' items isn't going to concern us anymore. I'd love to hear your thought on this as I still have to fill up my Auction Reports column in the Healey Marque On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 1:37?PM Perry Small via Healeys > wrote: All things come to an end and our ownership of our BN1 and BN2 has ended. The red 1955 BN2 was my first car that I bought for $275 in 1965. I scrounged up the funds delivering newspapers. That car followed us to Hawaii then back to PA and on to South Carolina. The modified BN1 I bought and built while living in Hawaii . Sold it to a guy in California only to buy it back years later. Probably have had 50 Healeys, big and little ones over the years. Maybe there is another one waiting out there for us but in a few days when the transport arrives to take Red and Yellow to their new homes things will be different. The garage will only hold the daily driver, tools that will not be used for vehicle maintenance anymore and miscellaneous other things that will need to be cleaned out hopefully before what ever comes next. Kimberley jokes with me and others that she gets to ?go? first so that she does not have to clean up the ?stuff?! I have known probably 40 or more other Healey owners that have previously visited the same chain of events and I always thought it would somehow be different but it?s not. These little British beasts really get under your skin but they also still bring a smile to your face . All the best to you and yours. Perry and Kimberley Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Jul 19 01:59:50 2024 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 09:59:50 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] End of an era In-Reply-To: References: <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044.ref@aol.com> <61896750-E6EA-4847-BB10-5AC87C385044@aol.com> Message-ID: <850dcaa2-7d46-44be-8b19-72fca6f084a3@chello.nl> */Brown furniture/* and other 17th to early 19th century items. Our house is stuffed with it. We love it. The collection started 50 years ago when we got married in London and had to furnish our house. At the time it was plenty available in junk shops and antique markets like Portobello Road in London for next to nothing. It was all we could afford and we started with a Victorian folding card table, a Cuban mahogany Regency dining table and dining chairs. Not in pristine condition but I restored them myself. We also had an old Triumph Spitfire. We have had a classic car ever since.?Even the sound system is vintage! As it turns out we are the true environmentalists!!? If I look around me the only modern items is the computer, the heating system, airco, solar panels and the kitchen. None of our children are even remotely interested in our stuff as they prefer IKEA or similar rubbish. So when we are gone it is anybodies guess what happens with our belongings. I could not give a shyte about it as dead is dead. Kees Op 19-7-2024 om 04:34 schreef HealeyRick: > Watching all our Healey friends age, including myself, isn't a lot of > fun. Some of us have been on the Healey list for about 30 years now, I > think. We were once all those cool kids that had the best cars, now > we're a bunch of old guys in our sunset years. I loved Perry?as one of > those Nasty Boy guys and as we both had some time in Oahu and knew > some of the same people there was an extra bond. We're all going > through the same thing now. I still love my Healeys and don't want to > let them go one second sooner than we have to. But what am I going to > do with all those tools, Healey parts, and memories? I've got a couple > of sons, but do I want to stick them with these cars? I've been > thinking of my next Auction Report column for the Healey Marque and > does the term "brown furniture" ring any bells?? "Brown furniture" > refers to all the antiques our parents placed so much value in that > nobody cares about anymore. I think that's where our Healeys are > heading. I just hope we all got enough joy from them that their value > as collectors' items isn't going to concern us anymore. I'd love to > hear your thought on this as I still have to fill up my Auction > Reports column in the Healey Marque > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 1:37?PM Perry Small via Healeys > wrote: > > All things come to an end and our ownership of our BN1 and BN2 has > ended. The red 1955 BN2 was my first car that I bought for $275 in > 1965. > I scrounged up the funds delivering newspapers. That car followed > us to Hawaii then back to PA and on to South Carolina. The > modified BN1 I bought and built while living in Hawaii . Sold it > to a guy in California only to buy it back years later. > Probably have had 50 Healeys, big and little ones over the years. > Maybe there is another one waiting out there for us but in a few > days when the transport arrives to take Red and Yellow to their > new homes things will be different. > The garage will only hold the daily driver, tools that will not be > used for vehicle maintenance anymore and miscellaneous other > things that will need to be cleaned out hopefully before what ever > comes next. Kimberley jokes with me and others that she gets to > ?go? first so that she does not have to clean up the ?stuff?! > I have known probably 40 or more other Healey owners that have > previously visited the same chain of events and I always thought > it would somehow be different but it?s not. These little British > beasts really get under your skin but they also still bring a > smile to your face . > All the best to you and yours. > Perry and Kimberley > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -- Dit e-mailbericht is met AVG-antivirussoftware gecontroleerd op virussen. www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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With his cars he gets younger each day and when he is not feeling well, he gives all to be better soon. Its not all about driving the cars. Its keeping them in good shape. There is no rule cars have to be driven. They can give so much, even just staying with them in the garage. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter/Germany From: "Perry Small via Healeys" Reply-To: "Perry Small" To: "Healeys" Sent: July 15, 2024 at 10:30 AM PDT Subject: [Healeys] End of an era All things come to an end and our ownership of our BN1 and BN2 has ended. The red 1955 BN2 was my first car that I bought for $275 in 1965. I scrounged up the funds delivering newspapers. That car followed us to Hawaii then back to PA and on to South Carolina. The modified BN1 I bought and built while living in Hawaii . Sold it to a guy in California only to buy it back years later. Probably have had 50 Healeys, big and little ones over the years. Maybe there is another one waiting out there for us but in a few days when the transport arrives to take Red and Yellow to their new homes things will be different. The garage will only hold the daily driver, tools that will not be used for vehicle maintenance anymore and miscellaneous other things that will need to be cleaned out hopefully before what ever comes next. Kimberley jokes with me and others that she gets to ?go? first so that she does not have to clean up the ?stuff?! I have known probably 40 or more other Healey owners that have previously visited the same chain of events and I always thought it would somehow be different but it?s not. These little British beasts really get under your skin but they also still bring a smile to your face . All the best to you and yours. Perry and Kimberley Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gradea1 at charter.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kentmclean at comcast.net Fri Jul 19 13:27:43 2024 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 15:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] End of an era In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <472551661.2379580.1721417263823@connect.xfinity.com> Kees wrote: > So when we are gone it is anybodies guess what happens with our > belongings. I could not give a shyte about it as dead is dead. +1. I bought my 100 in '74 as a project. I've carted it from home to home, waiting for the day when I'd have money and time to put into it. After 50 years, I'm still waiting. A man has to know his limitations. I'm ready to let it go. -- Kent McLean '56 100, '60 Bugeye From boyracer466 at gmail.com Sat Jul 20 10:33:26 2024 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 09:33:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] End of an Era Message-ID: <4A3A1351-55C3-4365-829C-4173B1E6A5B5@gmail.com> Fewer members turn up for meetings and even fewer drive their cars to events or tours. It seems that more Healeys are now listed for sale. Prices also seem to be falling a bit. I?m sure there eventually be an up-side. As the cars become more affordable a whole new generation of owners will emerge. Of course they will know nothing about how to maintain these cars but that?s another issue. As we current owners age out, I am determined to enjoy my Healey for as long as possible. I will be 80 in a few moths. To that end, I am driving my 1960 BT7 from Portland, Oregon, to Wisconsin in September to the races at Road America and Conclave in Sheboygan. Following that I plan to find the beginning of Route 66 in Chicago and drive to Santa Monica, California. Then back home to Portland. My plan is to spent at least two weeks finding my way West along the ?Mother Road?, driving leisurely and "smelling the coffee? as they say. Hopefully, even meeting some Healey people along the way. I have plan to use a satellite GPS tracker and that can be accessed by anyone to see where I am in real time if they want to join me for a few miles of driving or meet for a cup of coffee along the way. Here?s photo of my ride. It?s a BT7 that I converted to a 2 seater. I use linseed oil to keep it from rusting. Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com 1960 BT7 1959 BN7 1955 BN1 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have a breakdown you are lost and wait hours for the towing service on a busy highway. Even the B-Roads are very busy. For several years I have been bringing my Austin-Healey to an event on the trailer and then enjoying the rides there in the Austin-Healey. This means a stress-free journey to/from the event and we can take more with us as the towing vehicle has plenty of space, including for tools and spare parts. I am in an age where I do not need stress anymore and want to relax. For holiday joureneys we have a Mazda MX-5 Miata which is simply better in all respects and also passively safer than an Austin-Healey and much easier to handle. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter Germany ? From gradea1 at charter.net Sat Jul 20 12:30:38 2024 From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 18:30:38 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] End of an Era Message-ID: <7b2caf20-d600-b2ad-8a06-5ae8e3784102@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sun Jul 21 20:39:33 2024 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 19:39:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?end_of_an_era?= Message-ID: <20240722023933.63670.qmail@server278.com> having been diagnosed with degenerative back disease, it is becoming painful to ride in or work on my healey. family has no use for it, so i guess it is time to let it go. hate to think about it. From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Jul 23 17:35:28 2024 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 19:35:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] End of an Era In-Reply-To: <4A3A1351-55C3-4365-829C-4173B1E6A5B5@gmail.com> References: <4A3A1351-55C3-4365-829C-4173B1E6A5B5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8753D815-7980-4CA3-9913-225E34F8568A@aol.com> Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2024, at 12:40?PM, richard mayor via Healeys > Fewer members turn up for meetings?.. > > As we current owners age out, I am determined to enjoy my Healey for as long as possible. To that end, I am driving my 1960 BT7 from Portland, Oregon, to Wisconsin in September?.. > > Richard Mayor > boyracer466 at gmail.com > Richard I enjoyed reading your game plan for enjoying your Healey in the future. I too wanted a long drive in one. I was much younger then. Discharged from military in late Dec 1971 we shipped our 65 BJ8 from Hawaii to San Francisco and started a cross county trip to Pennsylvania. There was 3 of us on this trek, my wife, our year old son Martin and myself. Drove south from SF then headed east on of Route 66. We Trusted the Healey and drove on. Trip Included a one day 16 hour jaunt of 1080 miles. At 74 years old my long trips are over and time to part ways with the BN2 and the Nasty Boy BN1 has arrived. You are right. Enjoy the car while you can. Perry From alfuller194 at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 22:34:00 2024 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 21:34:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] End of an Era In-Reply-To: <8753D815-7980-4CA3-9913-225E34F8568A@aol.com> References: <4A3A1351-55C3-4365-829C-4173B1E6A5B5@gmail.com> <8753D815-7980-4CA3-9913-225E34F8568A@aol.com> Message-ID: Perry, you said your long trips are over... Would a different car make a difference in your ability to still take cross country trips? I'm only 70, but did okay in doing 2000 miles in 4 days last week. Modern seats made a world of difference to my back and hips!! ________________ Best Regards, Al Fuller On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, 4:49?PM Perry Small via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 20, 2024, at 12:40?PM, richard mayor via Healeys > > Fewer members turn up for meetings?.. > > > > As we current owners age out, I am determined to enjoy my Healey for as > long as possible. To that end, I am driving my 1960 BT7 from Portland, > Oregon, to Wisconsin in September?.. > > > > Richard Mayor > > boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > Richard I enjoyed reading your game plan for enjoying your Healey in the > future. I too wanted a long drive in one. I was much younger then. > Discharged from military in late Dec 1971 we shipped our 65 BJ8 from Hawaii > to San Francisco and started a cross county trip to Pennsylvania. There was > 3 of us on this trek, my wife, our year old son Martin and myself. Drove > south from SF then headed east on of Route 66. We Trusted the Healey and > drove on. Trip Included a one day 16 hour jaunt of 1080 miles. > At 74 years old my long trips are over and time to part ways with the BN2 > and the Nasty Boy BN1 has arrived. > You are right. Enjoy the car while you can. > Perry > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: