[Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
Jim Ryan
ryan at jimryan.com
Wed Feb 14 12:52:25 MST 2024
Girls with small mouths don't make passes at men with pieces of iron.
Great story though...;+}
On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 1:14 PM healeybruce--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Steven, is there a metaphor hiding in there???
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> Bruce Steele
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> 1960 BN7
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> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Steven
> Kingsbury via Healeys
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:22 PM
> *To:* alfuller194 at gmail.com
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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> Met a woman with a TR3 Small Mouth at a car show and we decided to go and
> get a drink at a bar we both knew, We semi-race over there, me in my BN1,
> she in her TR3 and she was right behind me all the way and when we got to
> the bar, I said you never even made a move to try and pass, how come? Well
> she says, it had been so long since she had been behind an old British
> piece of iron, she didn't want to pass and get out of the smell of old
> technology emanating from my car!
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> Steven Kingsbury
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> BN1
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> On Feb 13, 2024, at 9:04 PM, alfuller194 at gmail.com wrote:
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> There you go – might be a market for us oldsters!!
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> All the best,
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> Al Fuller
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> *From:* Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 6:26 PM
> *To:* alfuller194 at gmail.com; 'Chris Scholz' <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>;
> 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com>; josef-eckert at t-online.de
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* RE: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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> ah yes, Al...maybe we should bottle it as aftershave? My nephew bought my
> '58 Sprite as he remembered the smell of my garage and now his garage
> smells that way too! Hank
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> From: <alfuller194 at gmail.com>
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> To: <gradea1 at charter.net>, "'Chris Scholz'" <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>,
> "'HealeyRick'" <healeyrik at gmail.com>, <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
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> Cc: <healeys at autox.team.net>
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> Sent: February 12, 2024 at 6:40 PM PST
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> Subject: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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> And Hank – don’t forget about the smell!!
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> Our local car club had a drive of about three (3) hours on Saturday, and I
> happened to be at the back of the pack. While it did take a couple of days
> to clear out my nose, I was back in the garage today tuning up and working
> out a fuel delivery on a car that has sat for a few years – and got another
> dose of exhaust blowing back into the garage!! 😊
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> All the best,
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> Al Fuller
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> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Hank
> Leach via Healeys
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:18 AM
> *To:* Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>; HealeyRick <
> healeyrik at gmail.com>; josef-eckert at t-online.de
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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> There are plenty of electric vehicles available today and many more
> tomorrow...most folks bought Healeys for their looks and their *sound.*
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> Would you pull out of the garage to listen to it hummmmmmmmmmmmmm? Hank
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> From: "josef-eckert--- via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
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> Reply-To: <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
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> To: "Chris Scholz" <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>, "HealeyRick" <
> healeyrik at gmail.com>
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> Cc: <healeys at autox.team.net>
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> Sent: February 11, 2024 at 7:22 AM PST
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> Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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> What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to
> V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey
> as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar
> XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a
> Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to
> the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on
> European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any motorway here in
> Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.
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> Josef Eckert
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> Königswinter/Germany
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> -----Original-Nachricht-----
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> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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> Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100
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> Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
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> An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com>
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> I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric
> conversion.
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> An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> Chris Scholz OD
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> On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16 PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Now, you've gone too far, Bob. An electric Healey? Bleah! As you say, to
> each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours,
> modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc.
> Can't we all just get along? 😀
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> Rick
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> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric
> motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or
> Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much
> past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips
> anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past).
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> I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I
> bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated,
> and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to
> sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all
> around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes),
> 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda
> suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly;
> I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon
> a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and
> straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the
> Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.
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> Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it"
> person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller
> rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but
> I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't
> actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who
> think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way
> you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for
> breast implants either; just not the same.
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> * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see
> a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't
> happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a
> dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have
> garish paint jobs though).
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> On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
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> I love my LS1 swap. It was a lot of work. Aluminum dual passage Wizard
> radiator with 15” spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and
> car stays right at 195 degrees. Lots of work to get the alternator to
> fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit. Everything
> barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
> fan and my water pump. Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint. Works
> great.
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> Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip
> diff and it works perfectly. 72” Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.
> Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up
> in the air by 2-3”. It rides and handles so well. My car was a 1959 100-6
> so it wasn’t worth as much stock as a BJ8. I feel my value went up.
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> I love my reliability and the torque is amazing. Car is so much fun to
> slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go. I would never go back to the
> heavy iron block. I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey’s
> first choice if GM would have worked with him.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> Chris Scholz OD
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> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58 PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
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> A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
> "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine
> and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the
> motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place. It's all the other stuff
> you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
> radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc.
> It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock
> off about 30 percent of your car's value or more. You can see the work I
> had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
> http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264 The Ford 5.0 is narrower
> than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS
> motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and
> with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful. I did about 50-75%
> of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My
> car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72
> spoke wires. Much more power than that and those parts will start
> braking. A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it
> will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but
> he can speak to how much work it was.
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> My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a
> replacement Healey 6.
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> Best of Luck,
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> Rick
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> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11 PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement. Chris just made that
> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans. My Bother is a retired GM
> mechanic, and he agrees. Did you do the exchange? What engine trans etc.
> did you use? All options are on the table.
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> Bob
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> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
> Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot. Maybe trying to find
> a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
> choices. Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few
> years ago for a donation to our club charity. I'd put a wanted ad in the
> club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there
> might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have
> one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
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> Best of luck,
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> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
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> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12 AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Gentlemen:
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> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings. My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings. So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage. We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine. Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place. I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
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> 1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
> not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
> bored on the engine.
> 2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
> main bearing caps is almost impossible.
> 3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
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> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
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> Please give me your advice.
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> Best regards,
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> Bob Begani
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> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
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