[Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!

Tim Davis BN7 tld6008 at mchsi.com
Sun Sep 17 17:07:00 MDT 2023


My first thought was condenser but I see you mention pertronix so maybe this doesn't apply. What about trying a stock distributor?

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: 123 Ignition (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
   2. The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
      (Tom Felts)
   3. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
      (Richard Collins)
   4. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
      (Jean Caron)
   5. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
      (Hank Leach)
   6. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
      (Michael Salter)
   7. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
      (Kees Oudesluijs)
   8. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
      (Harold Manifold)
   9. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
      (cecil.duvalle at ic24.net)
  10. contact (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=)
  11. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
      (john harper)
  12. Overdrive relay. (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
  13. BN1/2 PCV kits (Michael Salter)
  14. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 07:26:04 +0200 (CEST)
From: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
To: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net>
Cc: "Healey, Forum" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 123 Ignition
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For the 6 cylinder version there is the top entry cap only in black or red.
 
Josef Eckert
Germany
 
 
 
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Datum: 2023-09-16T00:46:22+0200
Von: "Roger Grace" <roggrace at telus.net>
An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
 
 
 
Thank you and yes looking for a 6 cyl version ...

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On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 1:25?PM josef-eckert at t-online.de
<mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> <josef-eckert at t-online.de
<mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> > wrote:
  Roger,
  There is a side entry cap available for 123 Ignition 4 cylinders, but as
  you said its a Bosch/Beru cap looking different to a LUCAS cap.
   
  Josef Eckert
  Germany
   
   
   
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  Betreff: [Healeys] 123 Ignition
  Datum: 2023-09-15T21:52:07+0200
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  An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
   
   
   
  Wondering if anyone is aware of, or if they even exist, of a source of a
  side entry cap that fits a 123 distributor ? This supposed to be a
  standard Bosch cap ?
  Just trying to keep things looking a little original ...
  Tkx
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 10:23:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Felts <tomfelts at windstream.net>
To: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem
	ever!
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Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down. Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again. I tried many fixes which I will list below. Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it. Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year). 

The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass. 

So here is what I have tried: * new coil * new voltage regulator * new fuel pump * New ignition switch * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside) * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly * replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly. 

All this----and STILL o joy. I'm really out of ideas at this point. If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them. 

Thanks 
Tom 
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 16:06:26 +0000
From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com>
To: Tom Felts <tomfelts at windstream.net>
Cc: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!
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Does it do it only in summer type warm weather ?
If so, I?d say vapor lock of fuel system.
Happens to me in the summer and predicted to happen when water temp on my instruments hit 200 degrees when stopped. Although I have wrapped insulation around the lines leading to the carbs close to the manifold which helped but has not cured the issue. I do have a heat shield but haven?t installed it.
So my cure is not to drive on hot days.

Regards,
Richard C
BN7 #440

On Sep 17, 2023, at 10:22, Tom Felts via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.  Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).

The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.

So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.

 All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.

Thanks
Tom
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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 16:13:12 +0000
From: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com>
To: Tom Felts <tomfelts at windstream.net>, healeys
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Tom,
Just out of curiosity, before all this happened, would you have pulled the float bowl cover off and not refitted it with the serrated washer in its right spot. I had similar situation happened to me several years ago and that was my pfonlrm.

Jean

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Tom Felts via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 9:23:53 AM
To: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!

Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.  Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).

The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.

So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.

 All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.

Thanks
Tom
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 16:25:30 +0000
From: "Hank Leach" <gradea1 at charter.net>
To: "'Tom Felts'" <tomfelts at windstream.net>
Cc: "'healeys'" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!
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Spider in fuel cap vent hole blocking free flow of air. Yes, I have
seen it bring a Healey to its knees. Hank

	-----------------------------------------From: "Tom Felts via
Healeys" 
To: "healeys"
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday September 17 2023 8:30:35AM
Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem
ever!

    Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she
shut down. Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a
while--then shut down again. I tried many fixes which I will list
below. Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and
I thought I had "fixed" it. Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time
once again (3 times this year).   
  The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a
light or for a car to pass.  
  So here is what I have tried: * new coil * new voltage regulator *
new fuel pump * New ignition switch * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled
float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside) * Pulled the
distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it * disconnected the wire
leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the
entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one *
checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly *
replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . *
checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it
was attached properly.  
  All this----and STILL o joy. I'm really out of ideas at this point.
If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.  
  Thanks  Tom
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 12:25:21 -0400
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
To: Tom Felts <tomfelts at windstream.net>
Cc: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!
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With all due respects Tom this sounds like the perfect situation where my
favorite adage applies.
"*Diagnosis BEFORE repair"*.
The repair system, usually adhered to in dealerships,  of "throw parts at
it until the problem is resolved" is the corolary of that process.
Some questions:
1. When the engine stops have you check for spark at a plug lead?
2. When the engine stops have you checked for fuel delivery at the
carburetors?
3. When you attempt a restart does the cranking sound normal?
4. Does the engine restart after everything cools down?
Almost certainly you will get the wrong answer to one of the above
questions (very unlikely more than one) and then you have something to
direct your attention to.

M



On Sun., Sep. 17, 2023, 11:17 a.m. Tom Felts via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.
> Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut
> down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times
> after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed"
> it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this
> year).
>
> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or
> for a car to pass.
>
> So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new
> fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float
> bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate
> out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the
> battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff
> switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug
> wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor
> *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the
> distributor to make sure it was attached properly.
>
>  All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If
> anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.
>
> Thanks
> Tom
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 18:33:23 +0200
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!
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Sounds like a faulty coil or a bad/broken wire somewhere. Also check the 
engine earth strap and battery switch and connections. What coil have 
you fitted. If the ballast resistor (wire) is still in place it should 
be a 12V ca. 1,5 Ohm coil to be used with a resistor or a 12V ca. 3Ohm 
coil to be used without resistor.

Op 17-9-2023 om 16:23 schreef Tom Felts via Healeys:
> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut 
> down.? Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a 
> while--then shut down again.? I tried many fixes which I will list 
> below.? Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and 
> I thought I had "fixed" it. Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time 
> once again (3 times this year).
>
> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light 
> or for a car to pass.
>
> So here is what I have tried:? * new coil? * new voltage regulator? * 
> new fuel pump? * New ignition switch? * Blew out the fuel lines * 
> pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)? * Pulled the 
> distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it? * disconnected the 
> wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed 
> the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new 
> one? * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on 
> properly? *? replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor 
> cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make 
> sure it was attached properly.
>
> ?All this----and STILL o joy.? I'm really out of ideas at this point.? 
> If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.
>
> Thanks
> Tom
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 09:45:26 -0700
From: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
To: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com>
Cc: Tom Felts <tomfelts at windstream.net>, healeys
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
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Sounds like you have checked everything on the ignition system. Could be fuel related. What do the spark plugs look like? If the ceramic is black then too rich if white then too lean. Lastly there is the ground wire that runs from the coil to the battery shutoff switch. Could the wire be grounding somewhere? Try disconnecting it at the coil.

Harold

> On Sep 17, 2023, at 9:15 AM, Richard Collins via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ? Does it do it only in summer type warm weather ?
> If so, I?d say vapor lock of fuel system.
> Happens to me in the summer and predicted to happen when water temp on my instruments hit 200 degrees when stopped. Although I have wrapped insulation around the lines leading to the carbs close to the manifold which helped but has not cured the issue. I do have a heat shield but haven?t installed it.
> So my cure is not to drive on hot days.  
> 
> Regards,
> Richard C
> BN7 #440
> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 10:22, Tom Felts via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.  Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).  
>> 
>> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.
>> 
>> So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.
>> 
>>  All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Tom
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 17:49:10 +0100
From: "cecil.duvalle at ic24.net" <cecil.duvalle at btinternet.com>
To: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com>
Cc: Tom Felts <tomfelts at windstream.net>, healeys
	<healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
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Heat shield and moved the fuel filter further forward solved my problems 20 years ago 



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> On 17 Sep 2023, at 17:41, Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Tom,
> Just out of curiosity, before all this happened, would you have pulled the float bowl cover off and not refitted it with the serrated washer in its right spot. I had similar situation happened to me several years ago and that was my pfonlrm.
> 
> Jean
> 
> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network.
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Tom Felts via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 9:23:53 AM
> To: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
>  
> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.  Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).  
> 
> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.
> 
> So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.
> 
>  All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.
> 
> Thanks
> Tom
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 09:57:56 -0700
From: "=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=" <healeymanjim at hansencc.net>
To: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
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george mcharris, contact me off list.


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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 18:10:12 +0100
From: john harper <ah100tech at gmail.com>
To: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com>
Cc: Tom Felts <tomfelts at windstream.net>, healeys
	<healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!
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Have you checked that your fillercap small hole is open?

On Sun, 17 Sept 2023 at 17:59, Jean Caron <
vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Tom,
> Just out of curiosity, before all this happened, would you have pulled the
> float bowl cover off and not refitted it with the serrated washer in its
> right spot. I had similar situation happened to me several years ago and
> that was my pfonlrm.
>
> Jean
>
> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Tom Felts
> via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 17, 2023 9:23:53 AM
> *To:* healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem
> ever!
>
> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.
> Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut
> down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times
> after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed"
> it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this
> year).
>
> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or
> for a car to pass.
>
> So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new
> fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float
> bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate
> out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the
> battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff
> switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug
> wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor
> *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the
> distributor to make sure it was attached properly.
>
>  All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If
> anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.
>
> Thanks
> Tom
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 18:19:52 +0100
From: <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
To: "'Healeys'" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive relay.
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I am putting a modern relay into my OD relay. Done it before with both the
8-way flasher box and the OD relay. Works well, though this one only managed
+/-10 years. 10 years, but not so very many miles.

Anyhow..it's a really tight fit in there and I thought I might save some
space with thinner wires this time. What does the team think about the
ampage flowing around in there? Is there much and is it constant when the
car's in OD or is it just a short burst to activate the coil and energize
the solenoid? I'm thinking that bigger wires means less space (Harder to
bend into little spaces) and thinner wires means overheating and consequent
problems...

Simon

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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 13:19:47 -0400
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
To: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 PCV kits
Message-ID:
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Due to unprecedented demand (actually only 4 kits) I have done another
run of these PCV kits.
https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-100-engine-oil-leak-solution/
I've had positive responses from the folks that have installed them so
if anyone is struggling with oil leakage problems this is probably
worth a try.

M


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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 17:25:36 +0000
From: Ulla_Sven Ordell <Bispmotala at hotmail.com>
To: Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net>, 'Tom Felts'
	<tomfelts at windstream.net>
Cc: 'healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!
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Blocked air supply to tank would give these symptoms. I Have also had a broken low tension lead to distributor looked fine but was loose at the connector.

Good luck You will find it eventually  and please let us know

RTegards

Sven
Sweden

Fr?n: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> F?r Hank Leach via Healeys
Skickat: den 17 september 2023 18:26
Till: 'Tom Felts' <tomfelts at windstream.net>
Kopia: 'healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
?mne: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!

Spider in fuel cap vent hole blocking free flow of air. Yes, I have seen it bring a Healey to its knees.  Hank

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From: "Tom Felts via Healeys"
To: "healeys"
Cc:
Sent: Sunday September 17 2023 8:30:35AM
Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.  Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).

The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.

So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.

 All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.

Thanks
Tom
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