From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sat Oct 1 02:22:13 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 09:22:13 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Door fit In-Reply-To: <007801d8d528$d2ce1940$786a4bc0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <000001d8d513$cb002970$61007c50$@alexarevel.plus.com> <007801d8d528$d2ce1940$786a4bc0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <000001d8d56e$e9d4dcf0$bd7e96d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Thank you for this. If the previous cover plates fit and the door did too, * It did fit but not perfectly. you should not have to adjust the door to get the cover plates to fit. * As I said, the cover plate is a lousy fit. Changed the door gap very considerably. I'd guess that it's a bad repro. But, I think I've worked out to fix that ie by altering the holes in the cover plate to allow the striker to go further in. No, my question is to the hinges. Can the bolts be loosened and the bottom door moved inwards a bit? The bolts should undo as some clown rammed the car a year or so back and the door had to be removed & replaced. When I installed new cover plates I recall trimming them at the edges against the sill and B pillar and also trimming them where they fit together at the 90 degree corner. I also had to enlarge the holes for the strike plate although there is not a lot of margin to do that. If you still want to adjust the door hinges, it is not likely possible if the car has not been restored and the hinges have not been loosened at the A pillar before. The nuts attaching the hinges to the pillar are likely to be rusted. Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Sat Oct 1 12:59:55 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 11:59:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Greasing the Driveshaft U Joint In-Reply-To: <20221001171141.62971.qmail@server278.com> References: <20221001171141.62971.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Update on the driveshaft grease fitting. Little did I realize when I replaced the u-joints early in the rebuild process the grease fittings in the new u-joints would be metric. M6x1. I tried the original longer grease nipples but the threads don't match. Will try to source longer metric lon 6Mx1 on-line. I would recommend getting longer grease nipples when buying a new u-joint or making sure the old grease nipples will fit. Harold On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 10:11 AM healeymanjim wrote: > i have learned to always replace the short ones with the long ones. > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Harold Manifold > > To: Healey List > > Subject: [Healeys] Greasing the Driveshaft U Joint > > Sent: Sep 29 '22 10:34 > > > > Hello, > > > > My Healey is nearing completion and after installing the driveshaft I > > tried to grease the U-Joint only to find the nozzle on my grease gun > > is too large to fit into the u-joint. Is there a grease gun with a > > narrow nozzle or a narrow nozzle extension? I replaced the u-joints > > and used the grease fittings that came with the new joints. Should the > > grease nipples (zerk fitting) be changed to the longer ones? > > > > Thanks... 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Anyone knows what is happening? > > > > Jean > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtkarowe at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sun Oct 2 01:14:04 2022 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 18:14:04 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin - In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005001d8d62e$8e08a300$aa19e900$@tpg.com.au> Hello The below was on the bottom of a message received from Greg Kilmartin about two weeks back. I would say the website is down. My understanding is that the brothers Kilmartin will be staying on with the new owners for 12 months. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Update to KAS Future - 14th February 2022 Since our decision to close KAS has been made public, we have been inundated with enquiries/orders and the desire for KAS to be able to continue on. We are now in deep consultation with a keen and enthusiastic purchaser. At this point in time all is progressing well, with their aim to carry on the business under the same name/ location with a lengthy transition and to keep producing the same lines. To our valued clients. After many years of making parts we have decided to call it a day ! We will be taking & filling orders from current stock up to the 31st May 2022 and closing up on the 30th June 2022. Thanking everybody for all the years of friendship and support during the journey. Kind regards from John,Greg & Gordon - your KAS team. - Have you checked out our web site? Our range of parts are listed along with pictures to help you identify exactly what you need. Simply click on the link below http://www.kas-kilmartin.com.au/ to go straight to our Home Page. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Jean Caron via Healeys Sent: Sunday, 2 October 2022 4:09 PM To: AH Mail List Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin - Guys, I do not imagine that Kilmartin has shut down but you can no longer get on their website. Anyone knows what is happening? Jean Sent from Mail for Windows -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sun Oct 2 12:28:30 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 14:28:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin - In-Reply-To: <005001d8d62e$8e08a300$aa19e900$@tpg.com.au> References: <005001d8d62e$8e08a300$aa19e900$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <9A092D19-74C1-44C1-B8BB-263C538395D7@aol.com> Their web site opened up from our location in US. Perry Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 2, 2022, at 3:53 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: > > ? > Hello > > The below was on the bottom of a message received from Greg Kilmartin about two weeks back. > > I would say the website is down. > > My understanding is that the brothers Kilmartin will be staying on with the new owners for 12 months. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Blue Mountains, Australia > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Update to KAS Future - 14th February 2022 > Since our decision to close KAS has been made public, we have been inundated with enquiries/orders and the desire for KAS to be able to continue on. > We are now in deep consultation with a keen and enthusiastic purchaser. > At this point in time all is progressing well, with their aim to carry on the business under the same name/ location with a lengthy transition and to keep producing the same lines. > To our valued clients. > After many years of making parts we have decided to call it a day ! > We will be taking & filling orders from current stock up to the 31st May 2022 and closing up on the 30th June 2022. > Thanking everybody for all the years of friendship and support during the journey. > Kind regards from John,Greg & Gordon ? your KAS team. > - > Have you checked out our web site? > Our range of parts are listed along with pictures to help you identify exactly what you need. > Simply click on the link below > > http://www.kas-kilmartin.com.au/ > > to go straight to our Home Page. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Jean Caron via Healeys > Sent: Sunday, 2 October 2022 4:09 PM > To: AH Mail List > Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin - > > Guys, > I do not imagine that Kilmartin has shut down but you can no longer get on their website. 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I would say the website is down. My understanding is that the brothers Kilmartin will be staying on with the new owners for 12 months. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update to KAS Future - 14th February 2022 Since our decision to close KAS has been made public, we have been inundated with enquiries/orders and the desire for KAS to be able to continue on. We are now in deep consultation with a keen and enthusiastic purchaser. At this point in time all is progressing well, with their aim to carry on the business under the same name/ location with a lengthy transition and to keep producing the same lines. To our valued clients. After many years of making parts we have decided to call it a day ! We will be taking & filling orders from current stock up to the 31st May 2022 and closing up on the 30th June 2022. Thanking everybody for all the years of friendship and support during the journey. Kind regards from John,Greg & Gordon ? your KAS team. - Have you checked out our web site? Our range of parts are listed along with pictures to help you identify exactly what you need. Simply click on the link below http://www.kas-kilmartin.com.au/ to go straight to our Home Page. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Jean Caron via Healeys Sent: Sunday, 2 October 2022 4:09 PM To: AH Mail List Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin - Guys, I do not imagine that Kilmartin has shut down but you can no longer get on their website. Anyone knows what is happening? Jean Sent from Mail for Windows [width=] Virus-free.www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 08:43:05 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:43:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. In-Reply-To: References: <77e2342e-cd47-6cec-8b0b-be47f9d1eee4@comcast.net> Message-ID: This is a non-progress report. I found a few minutes to continue my efforts to trace this misfire fault. Removed the LT wire from the distributor and from the 2 coil terminals. Ran a jumper from the CB terminal of the coil to the distributor and a second jumper from the live starter solenoid terminal to the SW terminal of the coil, thus eliminating things like the ignition switch and the battery master switch. Absolutely no change. In fact possibly worse. Next I'll pull out the distributor and check all the internal wiring, fit a different rotor and install a substitute coil. Stay tuned for further bulletins. M On Fri., Sep. 30, 2022, 12:41 a.m. Roland Wilhelmy, wrote: > So what is unique to a fuel stop besides the fuel? Adding weight to the > boot area, opening the boot lid, removing the filler cap. What else? > > An unvented filler cap could restrict fuel flow. Extra weight and even > opening the boot lid could shift some recalcitrant ground or other > connection or loose shorted wire. Maybe even at the battery switch. > -Roland > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 8:12 PM Michael Salter > wrote: > >> BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change >> in the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause. >> I'm starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red >> herring" although it certainly is an odd one. >> >> On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, >> wrote: >> >>> Good point. I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly used >>> high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn?t know that >>> fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermittently. >>> >>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the >>>> tank. It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the >>>> engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss. When I either >>>> got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparently >>>> fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was >>>> once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc. >>>> >>>> I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, >>>> searched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after >>>> I removed it the miss went away. How the leaf got into the tank when the >>>> fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out. >>>> >>>> Best--Michael Oritt >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys < >>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around >>>>> the tank intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again. >>>>> Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank. >>>>> >>>>> Don >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Mail for >>>>> Windows >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From: *Michael Salter >>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM >>>>> *To: *Alan Seigrist >>>>> *Cc: *Healey list >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable >>>>> thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> I should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing >>>>> of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused. >>>>> >>>>> This has happened three times simce the problem appeared. >>>>> >>>>> I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a >>>>> result of filling the tank. >>>>> >>>>> Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem >>>>> because the amount of engine power being used has no effect. >>>>> >>>>> Totally baffled. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again to all ... I'll report back. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, < >>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi John - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through >>>>> bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that >>>>> had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil >>>>> had run out through a very small crack in the bottom of the case. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Michael - >>>>> >>>>> Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest >>>>> themself ... >>>>> >>>>> - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will >>>>> exclude anything related to fuel or the coil >>>>> - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will >>>>> exclude anything related to fuel >>>>> - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude >>>>> anything related to fuel >>>>> - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - >>>>> suggests to me wiring / ground issues >>>>> >>>>> Given this I'd check (as a priority): >>>>> >>>>> - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil) >>>>> - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the >>>>> connections) >>>>> - motor ground straps (cycle the connections) >>>>> - loose wires in the dizzy >>>>> - loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug >>>>> >>>>> Other things to possibly do (as secondary): >>>>> >>>>> - replace rotor >>>>> - replace dizzy cap >>>>> >>>>> I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this >>>>> would either be very regular all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> re: "... I don?t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor >>>>> wire ..." >>>>> >>>>> It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position >>>>> it grounds the coil primary so no spark. >>>>> >>>>> On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Michael - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the >>>>> ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at >>>>> the coil from the battery master switch - if it?s failing you?ll get weird >>>>> symptoms like this. If that wire is disconnected the car should run no >>>>> problem. I don?t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor >>>>> wire, if it isn?t you?ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master >>>>> switch itself. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>> >>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>> >>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Craig On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 11:24:49 AM PDT, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote: Send Healeys mailing list submissions to ??? healeys at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? healeys-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? healeys-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: Greasing the Driveshaft U Joint (Harold Manifold) ? 2. Kilmartin? - (Jean Caron) ? 3. Re: Kilmartin - (John and Kerry Rowe) ? 4. Re: Kilmartin? - (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Update on the driveshaft grease fitting. Little did I realize when I replaced the u-joints early in the rebuild process the grease fittings in the new?u-joints would be metric. M6x1. I tried the original longer grease nipples but the threads don't match. Will try to source longer metric?lon 6Mx1 on-line. I would recommend getting longer grease nipples when buying a new u-joint or making sure the old grease nipples will fit. Harold On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 10:11 AM healeymanjim wrote: i have learned to always replace the short ones with the long ones. >? -------Original Message------- >? From: Harold Manifold >? To: Healey List >? Subject: [Healeys] Greasing the Driveshaft U Joint >? Sent: Sep 29 '22 10:34 >? >? Hello, >? >? My Healey is nearing completion and after installing the driveshaft I >? tried to grease the U-Joint only to find the nozzle on my grease gun >? is too large to fit into the u-joint. Is there a grease gun with a >? narrow nozzle or a narrow nozzle extension? I replaced the u-joints >? and used the grease fittings that came with the new joints. Should the >? grease nipples (zerk fitting) be changed to the longer ones? >? >? Thanks... Harold >? >? ------------------------- >? _______________________________________________ >? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >? Suggested annual donation $12.75 >? >? Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >? http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >? >? Healeys at autox.team.net >? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >? >? Unsubscribe/Manage: >? http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeymanjim at hansencc.net >? >? Guys, I do not imagine that Kilmartin has shut down but you can no longer get on their website. Anyone knows what is happening? ? Jean ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? Website is not visible in Australia either. I rang their telephone and it seems to be still connected, but unanswered (Sunday afternoon though). Probably?some technical?difficulty, but there has been some talk on the list about them retiring some months agoJohn RoweQld Australia On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 3:34 PM Jean Caron via Healeys wrote: Guys, I do not imagine that Kilmartin has shut down but you can no longer get on their website. Anyone knows what is happening? ? Jean ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtkarowe at gmail.com Hello ? The below was on the bottom of a message received from Greg Kilmartin about two weeks back. ? I would say the website is down. ? My understanding is that the brothers Kilmartin will be staying on with the new owners for 12 months. ? Hoo Roo ? Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update to KAS Future - 14th February 2022 Since our decision to close KAS has been made public, we have been inundated with enquiries/orders and the desire for KAS to be able to continue on. We are now in deep consultation with a keen and enthusiastic purchaser. At this point in time all is progressing well, with their aim to carry on the business under the same name/ location with a lengthy transition and to keep producing the same lines. To our valued clients. After many years of making parts we have decided to call it a day ! We will be taking & filling orders from current stock up to the 31st May 2022 and closing up on the 30th June 2022. Thanking everybody for all the years of friendship and support during the journey. Kind regards from John,Greg & Gordon ? your KAS team. - Have you checked out our web site? 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This is a non-progress report.?I found a few minutes to continue my efforts to trace this misfire fault.Removed the LT wire from the distributor and from the 2 coil terminals.Ran a jumper from the CB terminal of the coil to the distributor and a second jumper from the live starter solenoid terminal to the SW terminal of the coil, thus eliminating things like the ignition switch and the battery master switch.Absolutely no change. In fact possibly worse.Next I'll pull out the distributor and check all the internal wiring, fit a different rotor and install a substitute coil.?Stay tuned for further bulletins. M On Fri., Sep. 30, 2022, 12:41 a.m. Roland Wilhelmy, wrote: So what is unique to a fuel stop besides the fuel?? Adding weight to the boot area, opening the boot lid, removing the filler cap.? What else? An unvented filler cap could restrict fuel flow.? Extra weight? and even opening the boot lid could shift some recalcitrant ground or other connection or loose shorted wire. Maybe even at the battery switch.?-Roland On Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 8:12 PM Michael Salter wrote: BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause.?I'm starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herring" although it certainly is an odd one. On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, wrote: Good point.? I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly used high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn?t know that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermittently. On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt wrote: I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tank.? It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.? When I either got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparently fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.? I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I removed it the miss went away.? How the leaf got into the tank when the fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys wrote: I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again.? Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.Don??Sent from Mail for Windows?From: Michael Salter Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM To: Alan Seigrist Cc: Healey list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.?Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions.?I? should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused.?This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of filling the tank.Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used has no effect.Totally baffled.Thanks again to all ... I'll? report back.?On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, wrote: Hi John -?Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation!? As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"?Cheers,?Alan?On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper wrote: Alan?Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small?crack in the bottom of the case.?On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist wrote: Michael - Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themself??...? - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues Given this I'd check (as a priority): - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil) - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connections) - motor ground straps (cycle the connections) - loose wires in the dizzy - loose ignition?wires into the dizzy or spark plug Other things to possibly do (as secondary): - replace rotor - replace dizzy cap I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would either be very regular?all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp. Best,?Alan?On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell wrote: re: "... I don?t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire ..." It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it grounds the coil primary so no spark. On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: Hi Michael -?Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.?You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if it?s failing you?ll get weird symptoms like this.? If that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem.? I don?t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn?t you?ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself.?Best,?Alan ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com?_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <77e2342e-cd47-6cec-8b0b-be47f9d1eee4@comcast.net> Message-ID: Do give the cap an eagle eye too - maybe also with a magnifying glass - I had a bad experience with a hairline crack on a Lucas cap on a Mini many years ago ... it was hardly visible and you know how HT can track .. rg On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 10:05 AM Michael Salter via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > This is a non-progress report. > I found a few minutes to continue my efforts to trace this misfire fault. > Removed the LT wire from the distributor and from the 2 coil terminals. > Ran a jumper from the CB terminal of the coil to the distributor and a > second jumper from the live starter solenoid terminal to the SW terminal of > the coil, thus eliminating things like the ignition switch and the battery > master switch. > Absolutely no change. In fact possibly worse. > Next I'll pull out the distributor and check all the internal wiring, fit > a different rotor and install a substitute coil. > Stay tuned for further bulletins. > > M > > On Fri., Sep. 30, 2022, 12:41 a.m. Roland Wilhelmy, > wrote: > >> So what is unique to a fuel stop besides the fuel? Adding weight to the >> boot area, opening the boot lid, removing the filler cap. What else? >> >> An unvented filler cap could restrict fuel flow. Extra weight and even >> opening the boot lid could shift some recalcitrant ground or other >> connection or loose shorted wire. Maybe even at the battery switch. >> -Roland >> >> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 8:12 PM Michael Salter >> wrote: >> >>> BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change >>> in the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause. >>> I'm starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a >>> "red herring" although it certainly is an odd one. >>> >>> On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Good point. I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly used >>>> high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn?t know that >>>> fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermittently. >>>> >>>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into >>>>> the tank. It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the >>>>> engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss. When I either >>>>> got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparently >>>>> fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was >>>>> once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc. >>>>> >>>>> I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, >>>>> searched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after >>>>> I removed it the miss went away. How the leaf got into the tank when the >>>>> fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out. >>>>> >>>>> Best--Michael Oritt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys < >>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around >>>>>> the tank intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again. >>>>>> Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Mail for >>>>>> Windows >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From: *Michael Salter >>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM >>>>>> *To: *Alan Seigrist >>>>>> *Cc: *Healey list >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue >>>>>> considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions. >>>>>> >>>>>> I should like to point out however that it is the immediate >>>>>> vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused. >>>>>> >>>>>> This has happened three times simce the problem appeared. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a >>>>>> result of filling the tank. >>>>>> >>>>>> Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem >>>>>> because the amount of engine power being used has no effect. >>>>>> >>>>>> Totally baffled. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again to all ... I'll report back. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, < >>>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi John - >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell >>>>>> through bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct >>>>>> Sir!" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that >>>>>> had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil >>>>>> had run out through a very small crack in the bottom of the case. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Michael - >>>>>> >>>>>> Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest >>>>>> themself ... >>>>>> >>>>>> - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will >>>>>> exclude anything related to fuel or the coil >>>>>> - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will >>>>>> exclude anything related to fuel >>>>>> - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will >>>>>> exclude anything related to fuel >>>>>> - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - >>>>>> suggests to me wiring / ground issues >>>>>> >>>>>> Given this I'd check (as a priority): >>>>>> >>>>>> - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil) >>>>>> - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle >>>>>> the connections) >>>>>> - motor ground straps (cycle the connections) >>>>>> - loose wires in the dizzy >>>>>> - loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug >>>>>> >>>>>> Other things to possibly do (as secondary): >>>>>> >>>>>> - replace rotor >>>>>> - replace dizzy cap >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this >>>>>> would either be very regular all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> re: "... I don?t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor >>>>>> wire ..." >>>>>> >>>>>> It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position >>>>>> it grounds the coil primary so no spark. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Michael - >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the >>>>>> ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at >>>>>> the coil from the battery master switch - if it?s failing you?ll get weird >>>>>> symptoms like this. If that wire is disconnected the car should run no >>>>>> problem. I don?t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor >>>>>> wire, if it isn?t you?ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master >>>>>> switch itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>> >>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>> >>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>> >>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It was the distributor rotor!! After making various other tests, I found time today to install a "mule" set of cap, leads and rotor and the problem was immediately resolved ... even to the extent that the idle speed, which I had found necessary to increase, needed to be readjusted back to its original settings. I then reinstalled the original 65 year cap, leaving the replacement rotor and all was well. My past experience with rotor failures, mostly from the poorly made cheapo repos, was immediate and total ignition failure. The failure of his rotor, a very old Lucas original, manifested itself very differently with the problem starting out as a very intermittent misfire which, over a period of several hours, became increasingly worse. Why the misfire vanished completely at least three times after refueling remains a complete mystery to me. Thank you to everyone who made numerous very helpful suggestions. All part of the "rich tapestry of life" I presume. M On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 7:02 PM warthodson--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Has your gas tank ever been coated internally with a chemical liner? > Gary Hodson > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Tue Oct 4 10:13:13 2022 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 16:13:13 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 22:39:35 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 12:39:35 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. 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I was wondering if this > is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members > are on in Europe at this moment. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks > via Healeys > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM > *To:* Healey List > *Subject:* [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Awful. > > *https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ > * > > Randy > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was wondering if this >> is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members >> are on in Europe at this moment. >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Randy >> Hicks via Healeys >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM >> *To:* Healey List >> *Subject:* [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 >> >> Awful. >> >> *https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ >> * >> >> Randy >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.hutchings at rogers.com Wed Oct 5 11:24:55 2022 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 13:24:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Michael, I jdrove my Healey across the country (Canada) back in 1979. I had an intermittent mis-fire all through Ontario., then it cleared up. When the car quit completely in Alberta, it turned out to be the rotor, but like your experience, it took a while to diagnose. This would have been an original Lucas rotor?.so I guess they sometimes fail intermittently, like a coil, making the process of elimination quite difficult. Stephen BJ8 Sent from my iPad > On Oct 4, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > > ? > For all of those who, I'm sure, have been having endless sleepless nights trying to decide what could be causing my mysterious misfire problem I have the solution. > It was the distributor rotor!! > After making various other tests, I found time today to install a "mule" set of cap, leads and rotor and the problem was immediately resolved ... even to the extent that the idle speed, which I had found necessary to increase, needed to be readjusted back to its original settings. > I then reinstalled the original 65 year cap, leaving the replacement rotor and all was well. > My past experience with rotor failures, mostly from the poorly made cheapo repos, was immediate and total ignition failure. The failure of his rotor, a very old Lucas original, manifested itself very differently with the problem starting out as a very intermittent misfire which, over a period of several hours, became increasingly worse. > Why the misfire vanished completely at least three times after refueling remains a complete mystery to me. > Thank you to everyone who made numerous very helpful suggestions. > All part of the "rich tapestry of life" I presume. > > M > >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 7:02 PM warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: >> >> Has your gas tank ever been coated internally with a chemical liner? >> Gary Hodson >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Wed Oct 5 13:48:05 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 15:48:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes Stephen, as is always the case with intermittent drivability issues, it never does when you need it to ?. Of course it's that old "Prince of Darkness" thing again ... for goodness sake the roror was probably only 50 or 60 years old ... just plain junk??? On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:25 p.m. Stephen Hutchings, wrote: > Hi Michael, > I jdrove my Healey across the country (Canada) back in 1979. I had an > intermittent mis-fire all through Ontario., then it cleared up. When the > car quit completely in Alberta, it turned out to be the rotor, but like > your experience, it took a while to diagnose. This would have been an > original Lucas rotor?.so I guess they sometimes fail intermittently, like a > coil, making the process of elimination quite difficult. > > Stephen BJ8 > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 4, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Michael Salter > wrote: > > ? > For all of those who, I'm sure, have been having endless sleepless nights > trying to decide what could be causing my mysterious misfire problem I have > the solution. > It was the distributor rotor!! > After making various other tests, I found time today to install a "mule" > set of cap, leads and rotor and the problem was immediately resolved ... > even to the extent that the idle speed, which I had found necessary to > increase, needed to be readjusted back to its original settings. > I then reinstalled the original 65 year cap, leaving the replacement rotor > and all was well. > My past experience with rotor failures, mostly from the poorly made cheapo > repos, was immediate and total ignition failure. The failure of his rotor, > a very old Lucas original, manifested itself very differently with the > problem starting out as a very intermittent misfire which, over a period of > several hours, became increasingly worse. > Why the misfire vanished completely at least three times after refueling > remains a complete mystery to me. > Thank you to everyone who made numerous very helpful suggestions. > All part of the "rich tapestry of life" I presume. > > M > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 7:02 PM warthodson--- via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> >> Has your gas tank ever been coated internally with a chemical liner? >> Gary Hodson >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Wed Oct 5 20:50:50 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 22:50:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." > Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the > Targa there. > > M > > On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but >> they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage >> ditches. >> >> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if >>> this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association >>> members are on in Europe at this moment. >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Randy >>> Hicks via Healeys >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM >>> *To:* Healey List >>> *Subject:* [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 >>> >>> Awful. >>> >>> *https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ >>> * >>> >>> Randy >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 00:02:10 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 14:02:10 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like the Lucas Gremlins reside somewhere in Ontario. ? On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:56 AM Stephen Hutchings via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi Michael, > I jdrove my Healey across the country (Canada) back in 1979. I had an > intermittent mis-fire all through Ontario., then it cleared up. When the > car quit completely in Alberta, it turned out to be the rotor, but like > your experience, it took a while to diagnose. This would have been an > original Lucas rotor?.so I guess they sometimes fail intermittently, like a > coil, making the process of elimination quite difficult. > > Stephen BJ8 > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 4, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Michael Salter > wrote: > > ? > For all of those who, I'm sure, have been having endless sleepless nights > trying to decide what could be causing my mysterious misfire problem I have > the solution. > It was the distributor rotor!! > After making various other tests, I found time today to install a "mule" > set of cap, leads and rotor and the problem was immediately resolved ... > even to the extent that the idle speed, which I had found necessary to > increase, needed to be readjusted back to its original settings. > I then reinstalled the original 65 year cap, leaving the replacement rotor > and all was well. > My past experience with rotor failures, mostly from the poorly made cheapo > repos, was immediate and total ignition failure. The failure of his rotor, > a very old Lucas original, manifested itself very differently with the > problem starting out as a very intermittent misfire which, over a period of > several hours, became increasingly worse. > Why the misfire vanished completely at least three times after refueling > remains a complete mystery to me. > Thank you to everyone who made numerous very helpful suggestions. > All part of the "rich tapestry of life" I presume. > > M > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 7:02 PM warthodson--- via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> >> Has your gas tank ever been coated internally with a chemical liner? >> Gary Hodson >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josef-eckert at t-online.de Thu Oct 6 08:17:13 2022 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 16:17:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Message-ID: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckert konigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" An: "Michael Salter" Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lawrence.swift at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 10:47:26 2022 From: lawrence.swift at gmail.com (Team.net) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 12:47:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: <3D068ED8-A330-40D6-A444-2AD12937EC06@gmail.com> Envy is a terrible disease. > On Oct 6, 2022, at 10:17 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote: > > To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. > > Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. > > For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. > > One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. > > I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. > > Josef Eckert > konigswinter/GERMANY > > > > > > > > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 > > Von: "Michael Oritt" > > An: "Michael Salter" > > > > > > > > Michael-- > > > > Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. > > I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > > "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." > > Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. > > > > M > > On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, wrote: > > Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. > > > On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys wrote: > > I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. > > > > From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM > To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > > > Awful. > > > > https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ > > > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > > > ? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lawrence.swift at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 6 11:09:13 2022 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 17:09:13 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Number of color combos for BN1 Message-ID: Were the particular BN1 color combo's numbers every recorded or known? I've read that black BN1's with the Off White seat/ interior panels combo were only made for 6 months. Using VERY BROAD numbers: 10,010 BN1's produced over a 27 month period, with 7 main colors, leaves about 26 Black BN1's produced in a 6 month period. With the various interior colors produced, that could make the Black BN1 with Off White trim a fairly rare color combo? Just curious, and yes I own one ? Also it is just a very broad shot in the dark on numbers, and I could be way off. Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Thu Oct 6 13:14:18 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 15:14:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old > fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other > person was invoved and injured. > > Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or > even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. > > For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, > where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b > along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who > do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely > overextended by driving an old classic car. > > One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable > to drive. > > I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. > > Josef Eckert > konigswinter/GERMANY > > > > > > > > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 > > Von: "Michael Oritt" > > An: "Michael Salter" > > > > > > > > Michael-- > > > > Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. > > I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, > somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front > yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the > branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off > without much conversation. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." > > Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the > Targa there. > > > > M > > On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but > they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage > ditches. > > > On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this > is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members > are on in Europe at this moment. > > > > From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks > via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM > To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > > > Awful. > > > > > https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ > > > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > > > ? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josef-eckert at t-online.de Thu Oct 6 13:32:36 2022 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 21:32:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> Yes, please forward my comment to his family. This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a person. Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200 Von: "Jim Ryan" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net > wrote: To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckert konigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" > An: "Michael Salter" > Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net > wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net > wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net > wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys > on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: -- Jim Ryan ???? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jstmorris at yahoo.com Thu Oct 6 14:22:36 2022 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 20:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Number of color combos for BN1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <763345373.5795839.1665087756308@mail.yahoo.com> Perhaps this graph will help. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 02:26:41 p.m. EDT, S and T Miller wrote: Were the particular BN1 color combo's numbers every recorded or known? I've read that black BN1's with the Off White seat/ interior panels combo were only made for 6 months. Using VERY BROAD numbers: 10,010 BN1's produced over a 27 month period, with 7 main colors, leaves about 26 Black BN1's produced in a 6 month period.? With the various interior colors produced,? that could make the Black BN1 with Off White trim a fairly rare color combo?? Just curious, and yes I own one ? Also it is just a very broad shot in the dark on numbers, and I could be way off.?Shawn The Millers ? 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Scott Morris Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 4:22 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net ; S and T Miller Subject: Re: [Healeys] Number of color combos for BN1 Perhaps this graph will help. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 02:26:41 p.m. EDT, S and T Miller wrote: Were the particular BN1 color combo's numbers every recorded or known? I've read that black BN1's with the Off White seat/ interior panels combo were only made for 6 months. Using VERY BROAD numbers: 10,010 BN1's produced over a 27 month period, with 7 main colors, leaves about 26 Black BN1's produced in a 6 month period. With the various interior colors produced, that could make the Black BN1 with Off White trim a fairly rare color combo? Just curious, and yes I own one ? Also it is just a very broad shot in the dark on numbers, and I could be way off. Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jstmorris at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phoenix722 at comcast.net Thu Oct 6 15:23:18 2022 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 14:23:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: <85a103c9-2fb1-a20b-2e6d-0fc5d5b1c1f9@comcast.net> Maybe you better quit driving, now Josef, before you get old and decrepit. Mike Age 82 On 10/6/22 12:32 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote: > > Yes, please forward my comment to his family. > > This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other > people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even > pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to > live and be not hurt by such a person. > > Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200 > > Von: "Jim Ryan" > > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" > > Well, THAT was harsh.? You might want to forward that to his family > just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you > think? we should all stop driving?? Is it 75?? 80?? I'm 71, I just > want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering?other people. > That was easily the most insensitive?posting I have ever seen on this > list. > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys > wrote: > > To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 > years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. > Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. > > Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, > trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. > > For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure > ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to > come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those > mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with > their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an > old classic car. > > One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more > capable to drive. > > I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. > Josef Eckert > konigswinter/GERMANY > > > > > > > > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 > > Von: "Michael Oritt" > > An: "Michael Salter" > > > > > > > > Michael-- > > > > Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. > > I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the > road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a > fellow's front yard.? As I remember it he stood there rather > stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, > then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: > > "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." > > Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving > up on the Targa there. > > > > M > > On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, > wrote: > > Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful > countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are > surrounded by open drainage ditches. > > > On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys > wrote: > > I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering > if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey > Association members are on in Europe at this moment. > > > > From: Healeys on behalf of Randy > Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM > To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > > > Awful. > > > > https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ > > > > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > > -- > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > > ? > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 15:32:49 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 17:32:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: I agree with you completely Jim. I suspect that Josef my adjust his opinion as he ages. M On Thu., Oct. 6, 2022, 3:14 p.m. Jim Ryan, wrote: > Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just > so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we > should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your > advice on what age I'm endangering other people. > > That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old >> fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other >> person was invoved and injured. >> >> Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees >> or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. >> >> For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure >> ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come >> from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly >> people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are >> completely overextended by driving an old classic car. >> >> One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more >> capable to drive. >> >> I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. >> >> Josef Eckert >> konigswinter/GERMANY >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original-Nachricht----- >> >> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 >> >> Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 >> >> Von: "Michael Oritt" >> >> An: "Michael Salter" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael-- >> >> >> >> Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. >> >> I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, >> somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front >> yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the >> branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off >> without much conversation. >> >> >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." >> >> Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on >> the Targa there. >> >> >> >> M >> >> On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but >> they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage >> ditches. >> >> >> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this >> is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members >> are on in Europe at this moment. >> >> >> >> From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks >> via Healeys >> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM >> To: Healey List >> Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 >> >> >> >> Awful. >> >> >> >> >> https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ >> >> >> >> Randy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> >> >> ? >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> > > -- > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Oct 6 15:56:05 2022 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 21:56:05 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: Very unfair. Many of us are better and quicker reacting than many younger folks. You are making generalizations. Many in our club are in their eighties and doing fine. Many still work on their cars ( it may take longer ). Experience is priceless and earned. Shit happens at any age. Should we turn ourselves in for termination as in the movie "Soylent Green" at a given age? I'm going out fighting. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 12:32 PM To: Jim Ryan Cc: Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Yes, please forward my comment to his family. This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a person. Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200 Von: "Jim Ryan" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys > wrote: To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckert konigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" > An: "Michael Salter" > Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, > wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys > wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys > on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -- Jim Ryan ???? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 6 16:31:00 2022 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock BCS) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 15:31:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: So I assume that you know that his driving ability was the cause of the accident. Maybe someone or something was in the road and he tried to avoid it, or maybe there was a mechanical failure. Are you will to give up your license at a set age no matter your physical health. If you are assuming it was his age then how about you set an age that everyone has to stop driving and see how far that goes I know many people well into there 80s that are perfectly safe drivers. David Nock From: josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2022 12:32 PM To: Jim Ryan Cc: Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Yes, please forward my comment to his family. This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a person. Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200 Von: "Jim Ryan" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote: To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckert konigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" An: "Michael Salter" Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -- Jim Ryan ???? ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Thu Oct 6 16:39:39 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 18:39:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: <004301d8d9d4$858241b0$9086c510$@sympatico.ca> Josef, that is heartless and uncalled for. I was going to stay silent on your first post, but your reply to Jim is beyond the pale and I feel for me not to comment would be disrespectful to his family and friends. I expect it may illicit another unwanted reply, but I can?t let this go by without expressing my disgust at your attitude. I doubt you have the details of the incident and your opinion is based on what the press chose to publish. I also doubt you know the victim and are ignorant regarding his competence to drive. Your lack of compassion for their family and friends is based on uniformed speculation and is simply inhuman. I am certain does not reflect the compassion of the Healey community. Your rant is not about Healeys per se, so please don?t burden the list with it. Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: October 6, 2022 3:33 PM To: Jim Ryan Cc: Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Yes, please forward my comment to his family. This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a person. Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200 Von: "Jim Ryan" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " > Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys > wrote: To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckert konigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" > An: "Michael Salter" > Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, > wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys > wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys > on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -- Jim Ryan ???? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Thu Oct 6 17:41:28 2022 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 23:41:28 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Number of color combos for BN1 In-Reply-To: <763345373.5795839.1665087756308@mail.yahoo.com> References: <763345373.5795839.1665087756308@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Not to muddle the waters here guys but the graph provided is copyrighted and belongs to the AHCUSA. While I certainly believe that the AHCUSA or Roger Moment would not object that this is being copied, an acknowledgement of such should be added to the message in the future. Jean Caron Membership Director AHCUSA Sent from Mail for Windows From: J. Scott Morris via Healeys Sent: October 6, 2022 5:42 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net; S and T Miller Subject: Re: [Healeys] Number of color combos for BN1 Perhaps this graph will help. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 02:26:41 p.m. EDT, S and T Miller wrote: Were the particular BN1 color combo's numbers every recorded or known? I've read that black BN1's with the Off White seat/ interior panels combo were only made for 6 months. Using VERY BROAD numbers: 10,010 BN1's produced over a 27 month period, with 7 main colors, leaves about 26 Black BN1's produced in a 6 month period. With the various interior colors produced, that could make the Black BN1 with Off White trim a fairly rare color combo? Just curious, and yes I own one ? Also it is just a very broad shot in the dark on numbers, and I could be way off. Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jstmorris at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rd_parker at juno.com Thu Oct 6 18:39:51 2022 From: rd_parker at juno.com (rd_parker at juno.com) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 17:39:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Message-ID: I concur. Was that rally particularly dangerous? BP, 61BT7. On Thu, 6 Oct 2022 15:14:18 -0400 Jim Ryan writes: Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote: To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure rallys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckert konigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" An: "Michael Salter" Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-ra lly-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 20:10:10 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 22:10:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <85a103c9-2fb1-a20b-2e6d-0fc5d5b1c1f9@comcast.net> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> <85a103c9-2fb1-a20b-2e6d-0fc5d5b1c1f9@comcast.net> Message-ID: I'm 79 and still actively race. I'm glad that Josef--otherwise known as Mr. Sensitivity--isn't on the qualifications committee. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 8:21 PM Mike Sinclair wrote: > Maybe you better quit driving, now Josef, before you get old and decrepit. > > Mike > > Age 82 > On 10/6/22 12:32 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote: > > Yes, please forward my comment to his family. > > This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other > people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, > which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt > by such a person. > > Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200 > > Von: "Jim Ryan" > > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" > > > > > > > > Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just > so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we > should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your > advice on what age I'm endangering other people. > > That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old >> fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other >> person was invoved and injured. >> >> Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees >> or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. >> >> For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure >> ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come >> from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly >> people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are >> completely overextended by driving an old classic car. >> >> One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more >> capable to drive. >> >> I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. >> >> Josef Eckert >> konigswinter/GERMANY >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original-Nachricht----- >> >> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 >> >> Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 >> >> Von: "Michael Oritt" >> >> An: "Michael Salter" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael-- >> >> >> >> Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. >> >> I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, >> somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front >> yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the >> branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off >> without much conversation. >> >> >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." >> >> Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on >> the Targa there. >> >> >> >> M >> >> On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but >> they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage >> ditches. >> >> >> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this >> is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members >> are on in Europe at this moment. >> >> >> >> From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks >> via Healeys >> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM >> To: Healey List >> Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 >> >> >> >> Awful. >> >> >> >> >> https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ >> >> >> >> Randy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> > > -- > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > ? > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 6 20:26:01 2022 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 02:26:01 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yep, Josef is a bit harsh. I?ll be 80 in a few months and occasionally track my Healey. I am also a track instructor as well as race a 500+hp German car. Some of my wannabe racer students (30?s and 40 year olds) should stick to bicycles with training wheels. The 70+ year olds I occasionally get are generally very careful and understand the dynamics and know when it?s not something they should pursue. Regards, Richard C On Oct 6, 2022, at 21:09, Richard Kahn via Healeys wrote: ? Very unfair. Many of us are better and quicker reacting than many younger folks. You are making generalizations. Many in our club are in their eighties and doing fine. Many still work on their cars ( it may take longer ). Experience is priceless and earned. Shit happens at any age. Should we turn ourselves in for termination as in the movie "Soylent Green" at a given age? I'm going out fighting. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 12:32 PM To: Jim Ryan Cc: Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Yes, please forward my comment to his family. This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a person. Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200 Von: "Jim Ryan" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys > wrote: To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckert konigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" > An: "Michael Salter" > Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, > wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys > wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys > on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -- Jim Ryan ???? ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josef-eckert at t-online.de Fri Oct 7 00:38:37 2022 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 08:38:37 +0200 (MEST) Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: <1665124717176.1335820.2c0909c91232a52ae15c7ec8636f14b49352afc8@spica.telekom.de> Please only comment if you know the traffic situation here in Central Europe. I also do not allow myself to make any statements about the situation in the USA or Canada. We live here in narrow conurbations and the traffic on country roads should not be underestimated. Places are usually a maximum of 10km apart. The next time you are in Europe, drive a car on our European country roads or motorways and you will find that the traffic situations and road conditions are completely different than in a country as large as the USA or Canada. As a driver, you are quickly overwhelmed if you are not used to it. Unfortunately, we have a lot of older people here who can no longer cope with this traffic situation and are extremely dangerous to themselves and their environment. In our area we have accidents like this every month. And this described accident is typical. There is nothing wrong with being able to drive a car as an older person. However, the accident described is the typical accident without external influence - probably a health weakness caused by being overwhelmed, as we often have here. Unfortunately, bystanders are often injured or even fatally injured in an accident. Josef Eckert PS: Those from the US who are commng over to the European Healey Event 2023 (Geiranger) may realise, they need to drive in different situations as they are used to, at least when passing Belgium, The Netherlands, France, Germany, Denmark. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T00:31:18+0200 Von: "David Nock BCS" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "Jim Ryan" So I assume that you know that his driving ability was the cause of the accident. Maybe someone or something was in the road and he tried to avoid it, or maybe there was a mechanical failure. Are you will to give up your license at a set age no matter your physical health. If you are assuming it was his age then how about you set an age that everyone has to stop driving and see how far that goes I know many people well into there 80s that are perfectly safe drivers. David Nock From: josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2022 12:32 PM To: Jim Ryan Cc: Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Yes, please forward my comment to his family. This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a person. Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200 Von: "Jim Ryan" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckert konigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" An: "Michael Salter" Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, < mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: -- Jim Ryan ???? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Oct 7 01:21:36 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 08:21:36 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: <000001d8da1d$70c82020$52586060$@alexarevel.plus.com> Yes, a fairly nasty post altogether. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Jim Ryan Sent: 06 October 2022 20:14 To: josef-eckert at t-online.de Cc: Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys > wrote: To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckert konigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" An: "Michael Salter" > Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, > wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys > wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys > on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Oct 7 02:37:59 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 09:37:59 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1665124717176.1335820.2c0909c91232a52ae15c7ec8636f14b49352afc8@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> <1665124717176.1335820.2c0909c91232a52ae15c7ec8636f14b49352afc8@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: <000a01d8da28$1bcb3980$5361ac80$@alexarevel.plus.com> Speaking as one who drives in Europe and who has just returned from doing so in rural N.Ireland(!), I agree that some of the European roads require care and attention. But, surely the point is that, while you are entitled to your fairly offensive opinions, you should not be airing them here? Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: 07 October 2022 07:39 To: David Nock BCS ; Jim Ryan Cc: Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Please only comment if you know the traffic situation here in Central Europe. I also do not allow myself to make any statements about the situation in the USA or Canada. We live here in narrow conurbations and the traffic on country roads should not be underestimated. Places are usually a maximum of 10km apart. The next time you are in Europe, drive a car on our European country roads or motorways and you will find that the traffic situations and road conditions are completely different than in a country as large as the USA or Canada. As a driver, you are quickly overwhelmed if you are not used to it. Unfortunately, we have a lot of older people here who can no longer cope with this traffic situation and are extremely dangerous to themselves and their environment. In our area we have accidents like this every month. And this described accident is typical. There is nothing wrong with being able to drive a car as an older person. However, the accident described is the typical accident without external influence - probably a health weakness caused by being overwhelmed, as we often have here. Unfortunately, bystanders are often injured or even fatally injured in an accident. Josef Eckert PS: Those from the US who are commng over to the European Healey Event 2023 (Geiranger) may realise, they need to drive in different situations as they are used to, at least when passing Belgium, The Netherlands, France, Germany, Denmark. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T00:31:18+0200 Von: "David Nock BCS" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " >, "Jim Ryan" > So I assume that you know that his driving ability was the cause of the accident. Maybe someone or something was in the road and he tried to avoid it, or maybe there was a mechanical failure. Are you will to give up your license at a set age no matter your physical health. If you are assuming it was his age then how about you set an age that everyone has to stop driving and see how far that goes I know many people well into there 80s that are perfectly safe drivers. David Nock From: josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2022 12:32 PM To: Jim Ryan Cc: Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Yes, please forward my comment to his family. This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a person. Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200 Von: "Jim Ryan" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " > Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys > wrote: To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckert konigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" > An: "Michael Salter" > Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys > wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys > on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -- Jim Ryan ???? _____ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Oct 7 04:57:12 2022 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 06:57:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <000a01d8da28$1bcb3980$5361ac80$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> <1665124717176.1335820.2c0909c91232a52ae15c7ec8636f14b49352afc8@spica.telekom.de> <000a01d8da28$1bcb3980$5361ac80$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <1164317321.8339187.1665140232601.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Josef should watch some of these "old farts" driving around the track at the Pittsburgh /vintage Grand Prix. I know--they are just crashing constantly--and, oh, those poor pedestrians they take out on those hairpin curves-----. and in reality, no such actions have happened. ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys Cc: 'Healeys' Sent: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 04:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Speaking as one who drives in Europe and who has just returned from doing so in rural N.Ireland(!), I agree that some of the European roads require care and attention. But, surely the point is that, while you are entitled to your fairly offensive opinions, you should not be airing them here?Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: 07 October 2022 07:39 To: David Nock BCS ; Jim Ryan Cc: Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Please only comment if you know the traffic situation here in Central Europe. I also do not allow myself to make any statements about the situation in the USA or Canada. We live here in narrow conurbations and the traffic on country roads should not be underestimated. Places are usually a maximum of 10km apart.The next time you are in Europe, drive a car on our European country roads or motorways and you will find that the traffic situations and road conditions are completely different than in a country as large as the USA or Canada. As a driver, you are quickly overwhelmed if you are not used to it. Unfortunately, we have a lot of older people here who can no longer cope with this traffic situation and are extremely dangerous to themselves and their environment. In our area we have accidents like this every month. And this described accident is typical. There is nothing wrong with being able to drive a car as an older person. However, the accident described is the typical accident without external influence - probably a health weakness caused by being overwhelmed, as we often have here. Unfortunately, bystanders are often injured or even fatally injured in an accident. Josef EckertPS: Those from the US who are commng over to the European Healey Event 2023 (Geiranger) may realise, they need to drive in different situations as they are used to, at least when passing Belgium, The Netherlands, France, Germany, Denmark. -----Original-Nachricht-----Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100Datum: 2022-10-07T00:31:18+0200Von: "David Nock BCS" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "Jim Ryan" So I assume that you know that his driving ability was the cause of the accident. Maybe someone or something was in the road and he tried to avoid it, or maybe there was a mechanical failure. Are you will to give up your license at a set age no matter your physical health. If you are assuming it was his age then how about you set an age that everyone has to stop driving and see how far that goes I know many people well into there 80s that are perfectly safe drivers. David Nock From: josef-eckert--- via HealeysSent: Thursday, October 06, 2022 12:32 PMTo: Jim RyanCc: Forum HealeySubject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Yes, please forward my comment to his family. This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a person.Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. -----Original-Nachricht-----Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200Von: "Jim Ryan" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote:To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckertkonigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" An: "Michael Salter" Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -- Jim Ryan???? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Awful. > > *https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ > * > > Randy > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 10:51 p.m. Michael Oritt, wrote: > Michael-- > > Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. > I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, > somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front > yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the > branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off > without much conversation. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." >> Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on >> the Targa there. >> >> M >> >> On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but >>> they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage >>> ditches. >>> >>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if >>>> this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association >>>> members are on in Europe at this moment. >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Randy >>>> Hicks via Healeys >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM >>>> *To:* Healey List >>>> *Subject:* [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 >>>> >>>> Awful. >>>> >>>> *https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ >>>> * >>>> >>>> Randy >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britishauto at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 07:55:13 2022 From: britishauto at gmail.com (Jake V) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 09:55:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Number of color combos for BN1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That shows the standard offerings. My heritage cert shows (and was re-verified) that my early May '54 car was delivered in spruce green with a red interior. I have original trim remnants and paint that bear that out. Who else has an put of the ordinary original color combo? Jake On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, 2:27 PM S and T Miller wrote: > Were the particular BN1 color combo's numbers every recorded or known? > I've read that black BN1's with the Off White seat/ interior panels combo > were only made for 6 months. Using VERY BROAD numbers: 10,010 BN1's > produced over a 27 month period, with 7 main colors, leaves about 26 Black > BN1's produced in a 6 month period. 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URL: From tfsbj7 at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 08:11:13 2022 From: tfsbj7 at gmail.com (tfsbj7 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 10:11:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> <85a103c9-2fb1-a20b-2e6d-0fc5d5b1c1f9@comcast.net> Message-ID: <146f01d8da56$a8ba1680$fa2e4380$@gmail.com> It is clear that Josef had some sort of problem with older rich Americans invading his environment. His outburst, and continued doubling down, suggests he truly has some sort of an issue with courtesy. Now that it has emerged that the gentleman who died was not only not American, but was a Brit who lived in central Europe, his focus on age is all that remains from his initial set of assumptions. While I don?t expect any kind of apology from Josef, it is a reminder to all of us that ?jumping to assumptions? is rarely a good thing. It is very easy to slip into prejudice and outrage, when perhaps neither is warranted. I personally would like this thread to fade into oblivion. Thanks -skip- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Oritt Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 10:10 PM To: Mike Sinclair Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I'm 79 and still actively race. I'm glad that Josef--otherwise known as Mr. Sensitivity--isn't on the qualifications committee. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 8:21 PM Mike Sinclair > wrote: Maybe you better quit driving, now Josef, before you get old and decrepit. Mike Age 82 On 10/6/22 12:32 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote: Yes, please forward my comment to his family. This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a person. Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200 Von: "Jim Ryan" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys > wrote: To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckert konigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" > An: "Michael Salter" > Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, > wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys > wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys > on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -- Jim Ryan ???? ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tfsbj7 at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 08:21:16 2022 From: tfsbj7 at gmail.com (tfsbj7 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 10:21:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <000a01d8da28$1bcb3980$5361ac80$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> <1665124717176.1335820.2c0909c91232a52ae15c7ec8636f14b49352afc8@spica.telekom.de> <000a01d8da28$1bcb3980$5361ac80$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <149001d8da58$10004520$3000cf60$@gmail.com> I agree Simon. I too have lived in Europe and driven my Healey in Central European roadways. The fact that the victim too was familiar with those kinds of roadways sadly reduces Josef?s statements to an exhibit of prejudice and ageism. Josef has damaged his own reputation among all the rest of us Healey enthusiasts?.. and for what purpose? Just to show his lack of sensitivity? You are right. It would have been better for him to not be airing his offensive opinions among those who might otherwise respect him. Thanks -skip- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 4:38 AM Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Speaking as one who drives in Europe and who has just returned from doing so in rural N.Ireland(!), I agree that some of the European roads require care and attention. But, surely the point is that, while you are entitled to your fairly offensive opinions, you should not be airing them here? Simon From: Healeys > On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: 07 October 2022 07:39 To: David Nock BCS >; Jim Ryan > Cc: Forum Healey > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Please only comment if you know the traffic situation here in Central Europe. I also do not allow myself to make any statements about the situation in the USA or Canada. We live here in narrow conurbations and the traffic on country roads should not be underestimated. Places are usually a maximum of 10km apart. The next time you are in Europe, drive a car on our European country roads or motorways and you will find that the traffic situations and road conditions are completely different than in a country as large as the USA or Canada. As a driver, you are quickly overwhelmed if you are not used to it. Unfortunately, we have a lot of older people here who can no longer cope with this traffic situation and are extremely dangerous to themselves and their environment. In our area we have accidents like this every month. And this described accident is typical. There is nothing wrong with being able to drive a car as an older person. However, the accident described is the typical accident without external influence - probably a health weakness caused by being overwhelmed, as we often have here. Unfortunately, bystanders are often injured or even fatally injured in an accident. Josef Eckert PS: Those from the US who are commng over to the European Healey Event 2023 (Geiranger) may realise, they need to drive in different situations as they are used to, at least when passing Belgium, The Netherlands, France, Germany, Denmark. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T00:31:18+0200 Von: "David Nock BCS" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " >, "Jim Ryan" > So I assume that you know that his driving ability was the cause of the accident. Maybe someone or something was in the road and he tried to avoid it, or maybe there was a mechanical failure. Are you will to give up your license at a set age no matter your physical health. If you are assuming it was his age then how about you set an age that everyone has to stop driving and see how far that goes I know many people well into there 80s that are perfectly safe drivers. David Nock From: josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2022 12:32 PM To: Jim Ryan Cc: Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Yes, please forward my comment to his family. This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a person. Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200 Von: "Jim Ryan" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " > Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys > wrote: To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. Josef Eckert konigswinter/GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" > An: "Michael Salter" > Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys > wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys > on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -- Jim Ryan ???? _____ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident.? She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now:?https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys wrote: Awful.? https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14d701d8da5a$bdfc25c0$39f47140$@gmail.com> I haven?t used this stuff, but it might have been something I would have tried were it available at the time I did my restoration?.Amazon.com: Siless Liner 157 mil (4 mm) 36 sqft Car Sound Deadening & Heat Insulation Closed Cell Foam - PE Foam Sound Deadener : Automotive Nevertheless, I?m quite happy with the 80mil stuff I did use: Amazon.com: KILMAT 80 mil 36 sqft Car Sound Deadening Mat, Butyl Automotive Sound Deadener, Audio Noise Insulation and dampening : Automotive From: Healeys On Behalf Of HealeyRick Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 8:02 AM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Interior Insulation Kits? Does anyone have any recommendations from personal experience for a good interior (BJ7) insulation kit? More concerned with heat insulation than sound. What have you used and liked? Thanks, Rick Neville -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Fri Oct 7 08:58:10 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 10:58:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1E2256F2-263A-4E67-8FB9-8F028C02CB89@aol.com> Rick Thanks for the follow up article. It is obvious that this gentleman was not an inexperienced old guy just out for a drive but an accomplished rally driver, car restoration specialist and an all around car guy doing what he loves and knew how to do it. Perry Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2022, at 9:45 AM, HealeyRick via Healeys wrote: > > ? > I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux > > Rick Neville > >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys wrote: >> Awful. >> >> https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ >> >> Randy >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What have you used and liked? > > Thanks, > Rick Neville > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drscholz at visioncenterpc.com > From manifold at telus.net Fri Oct 7 11:37:03 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 10:37:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Interior Insulation Kits? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, I used 3 different products for heat and sound and made up the different pieces. Sound Deadening - Noico 80mil Heat Insulation - Noico 150mil on vertical surfaces and Koolmat everywhere else Harold On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 6:57 AM HealeyRick wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations from personal experience for a good > interior (BJ7) insulation kit? More concerned with heat insulation than > sound. What have you used and liked? > > Thanks, > Rick Neville > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josef-eckert at t-online.de Fri Oct 7 12:32:32 2022 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 20:32:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Message-ID: <1665167552134.1391834.4a731d1ef2030d1e4993d2ff4bd34eb1d3e79bd8@spica.telekom.de> I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys wrote: Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gilrockwell at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 13:46:29 2022 From: gilrockwell at gmail.com (Gil Rockwell) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:46:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?=5BHealey=E2=80=99s=5D_Sad_news_-_Rallyist_K?= =?utf-8?q?illed_in_Healey_100?= In-Reply-To: <1665152645024.1397558.79e3055a16adea864c000008c8a973128277267d@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665152645024.1397558.79e3055a16adea864c000008c8a973128277267d@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: <356c01d8da85$7eb36060$7c1a2120$@gmail.com> Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To: healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys > wrote: Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josef-eckert at t-online.de Fri Oct 7 13:55:03 2022 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 21:55:03 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?=5BHealey=E2=80=99s=5D_Sad_news_-_Rallyist_K?= =?utf-8?q?illed_in_Healey_100?= In-Reply-To: <356c01d8da85$7eb36060$7c1a2120$@gmail.com> References: <1665152645024.1397558.79e3055a16adea864c000008c8a973128277267d@spica.telekom.de> <356c01d8da85$7eb36060$7c1a2120$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1665172503356.1420297.5ef3bc373ed42c5049ac748e93eaba037634f7d7@spica.telekom.de> Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion. We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "healeyrik at gmail.com" , "'Forum Healey'" Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To: healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net > wrote: Awful. Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: Virus-free.www.avast.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gilrockwell at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 14:05:26 2022 From: gilrockwell at gmail.com (Gil Rockwell) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 16:05:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?=5BHealey=E2=80=99s=5D_Sad_news_-_Rallyist_K?= =?utf-8?q?illed_in_Healey_100?= In-Reply-To: <1665172503356.1420297.5ef3bc373ed42c5049ac748e93eaba037634f7d7@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665152645024.1397558.79e3055a16adea864c000008c8a973128277267d@spica.telekom.de> <356c01d8da85$7eb36060$7c1a2120$@gmail.com> <1665172503356.1420297.5ef3bc373ed42c5049ac748e93eaba037634f7d7@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: <35f801d8da88$24b02280$6e106780$@gmail.com> In a polite society if you don?t have anything positive to say, just be quiet, your negative comments help no one. Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand. Gil 61 BT7 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM To: Gil Rockwell ; healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: AW: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion. We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " >, "healeyrik at gmail.com " >, "'Forum Healey'" > Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To: healeyrik at gmail.com ; Forum Healey > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys > wrote: Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avast.com ? -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josef-eckert at t-online.de Fri Oct 7 14:09:49 2022 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 22:09:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?=5BHealey=E2=80=99s=5D_Sad_news_-_Rallyist_K?= =?utf-8?q?illed_in_Healey_100?= In-Reply-To: <35f801d8da88$24b02280$6e106780$@gmail.com> References: <1665152645024.1397558.79e3055a16adea864c000008c8a973128277267d@spica.telekom.de> <356c01d8da85$7eb36060$7c1a2120$@gmail.com> <1665172503356.1420297.5ef3bc373ed42c5049ac748e93eaba037634f7d7@spica.telekom.de> <35f801d8da88$24b02280$6e106780$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1665173389882.1394462.9d6e542d38403eea5b66fa37d2cc8d4c70c2cf5a@spica.telekom.de> So it isn?t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth? Josef 54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "healeyrik at gmail.com" , "'Forum Healey'" In a polite society if you don?t have anything positive to say, just be quiet, your negative comments help no one. Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand. Gil 61 BT7 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM To: Gil Rockwell ; healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: AW: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion. We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " < josef-eckert at t-online.de >, " healeyrik at gmail.com " >, "'Forum Healey'" > Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To: healeyrik at gmail.com ; Forum Healey < healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net > wrote: Awful. Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: Virus-free.www.avast.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josef-eckert at t-online.de Fri Oct 7 14:12:20 2022 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 22:12:20 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Message-ID: <1665173540704.935557.0fbca850986f59ab6a54acd998a1bc644987a428@spica.telekom.de> So it isn?t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth? Is that the world you are living? Josef 54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "healeyrik at gmail.com" , "'Forum Healey'" In a polite society if you don?t have anything positive to say, just be quiet, your negative comments help no one. Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand. Gil 61 BT7 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM To: Gil Rockwell ; healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: AW: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion. We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " < josef-eckert at t-online.de >, " healeyrik at gmail.com " >, "'Forum Healey'" > Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To: healeyrik at gmail.com ; Forum Healey < healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net > wrote: Awful. 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No complaints Regards, Richard C > On Oct 7, 2022, at 17:47, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote: > > ?I used dynomax stick on sheets from Summit > > Sent from my iPhone > Chris Scholz OD > >> On Oct 7, 2022, at 9:18 AM, HealeyRick wrote: >> >> ? >> Does anyone have any recommendations from personal experience for a good interior (BJ7) insulation kit? More concerned with heat insulation than sound. What have you used and liked? >> >> Thanks, >> Rick Neville >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drscholz at visioncenterpc.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com > From michael.oritt at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 18:44:49 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 20:44:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1665152645024.1397558.79e3055a16adea864c000008c8a973128277267d@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665152645024.1397558.79e3055a16adea864c000008c8a973128277267d@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: "Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language." -------------------------------------- Keep Digging Josef. Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 2:50 PM josef-eckert--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is > grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly > thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. > Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. > > Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my > mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German > language. > > Josef Eckert > K?nigswinter GERMANY > > > > > Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App > > > > --- Original-Nachricht --- > Von: HealeyRick via Healeys > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 > An: Randy Hicks > Cc: Healey List > > > I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read > some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a > lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right > now: > https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux > > > Rick Neville > > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Awful. > > > > https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ > > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josef-eckert at t-online.de Fri Oct 7 19:42:59 2022 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 03:42:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Message-ID: <1665193379676.1483815.9118a43f537e088a09cd6899db5342f64c61b85d@spica.telekom.de> So it isn?t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth? Is that the world you are living? But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of his vehicle while driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself and his wife in an accident. Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided with another road user which can be very likely and this would have been injured or killed. The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the person who caused the accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated and the driver's license would have been withdrawn forever. No mercy! The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not have been happy with his life anymore. Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation. It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit to such a danger. I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well, as is customary in Italy. Josef 54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "healeyrik at gmail.com" , "'Forum Healey'" In a polite society if you don?t have anything positive to say, just be quiet, your negative comments help no one. Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand. Gil 61 BT7 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM To: Gil Rockwell ; healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: AW: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion. We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " < josef-eckert at t-online.de >, " healeyrik at gmail.com " >, "'Forum Healey'" > Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To: healeyrik at gmail.com ; Forum Healey < healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net > wrote: Awful. Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: Virus-free.www.avast.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gilrockwell at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 20:11:18 2022 From: gilrockwell at gmail.com (Gil Rockwell) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 22:11:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1665193379676.1483815.9118a43f537e088a09cd6899db5342f64c61b85d@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665193379676.1483815.9118a43f537e088a09cd6899db5342f64c61b85d@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: <36ce01d8dabb$40b91300$c22b3900$@gmail.com> I?ve said enough, you don?t seem to get it, so I am ending this conversation. Gil From: josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 9:43 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: gilrockwell at gmail.com Subject: WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 So it isn?t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth? Is that the world you are living? But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of his vehicle while driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself and his wife in an accident. Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided with another road user which can be very likely and this would have been injured or killed. The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the person who caused the accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated and the driver's license would have been withdrawn forever. No mercy! The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not have been happy with his life anymore. Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation. It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit to such a danger. I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well, as is customary in Italy. Josef 54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " >, "healeyrik at gmail.com " >, "'Forum Healey'" > In a polite society if you don?t have anything positive to say, just be quiet, your negative comments help no one. Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand. Gil 61 BT7 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM To: Gil Rockwell >; healeyrik at gmail.com ; Forum Healey > Subject: AW: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion. We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " >, "healeyrik at gmail.com " >, "'Forum Healey'" > Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To: healeyrik at gmail.com ; Forum Healey > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys > wrote: Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avast.com ? -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From tfsbj7 at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 23:18:00 2022 From: tfsbj7 at gmail.com (tfsbj7 at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 01:18:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?=5BHealey=E2=80=99s=5D_Sad_news_-_Rallyist_K?= =?utf-8?q?illed_in_Healey_100?= In-Reply-To: <1665172503356.1420297.5ef3bc373ed42c5049ac748e93eaba037634f7d7@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665152645024.1397558.79e3055a16adea864c000008c8a973128277267d@spica.telekom.de> <356c01d8da85$7eb36060$7c1a2120$@gmail.com> <1665172503356.1420297.5ef3bc373ed42c5049ac748e93eaba037634f7d7@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: <000f01d8dad5$55d792b0$0186b810$@gmail.com> You are welcome to have your opinion?.. the suggestion was: You might be wise to hold your opinion to yourself though, because by exposing your opinion you are exposing yourself to the judgemental opinions of others. Please, go ahead and hold your opinion. It is your right. In fact, go ahead and expose yourself to the judgement of those who hear it. Just as it is your right to hold an opinion, it is also our right to form an opinion (rather unflattering) about you as a human being. From: Healeys On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 3:55 PM To: Gil Rockwell ; healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion. We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " >, "healeyrik at gmail.com " >, "'Forum Healey'" > Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To: healeyrik at gmail.com ; Forum Healey > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys > wrote: Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avast.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Sat Oct 8 03:44:47 2022 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (greylinn at ozemail.com.au) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 19:44:47 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1665193379676.1483815.9118a43f537e088a09cd6899db5342f64c61b85d@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665193379676.1483815.9118a43f537e088a09cd6899db5342f64c61b85d@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: For F****s sake give it away Josef ? you made your point, no-one agrees with you. Find some other way to massage your ego From: Healeys On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2022 11:43 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 So it isn?t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth? Is that the world you are living? But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of his vehicle while driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself and his wife in an accident. Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided with another road user which can be very likely and this would have been injured or killed. The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the person who caused the accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated and the driver's license would have been withdrawn forever. No mercy! The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not have been happy with his life anymore. Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation. It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit to such a danger. I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well, as is customary in Italy. Josef 54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " >, "healeyrik at gmail.com " >, "'Forum Healey'" > In a polite society if you don?t have anything positive to say, just be quiet, your negative comments help no one. Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand. Gil 61 BT7 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM To: Gil Rockwell >; healeyrik at gmail.com ; Forum Healey > Subject: AW: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion. We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " >, "healeyrik at gmail.com " >, "'Forum Healey'" > Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To: healeyrik at gmail.com ; Forum Healey > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys > wrote: Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avast.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Oct 8 04:18:05 2022 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 06:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <36ce01d8dabb$40b91300$c22b3900$@gmail.com> References: <1665193379676.1483815.9118a43f537e088a09cd6899db5342f64c61b85d@spica.telekom.de> <36ce01d8dabb$40b91300$c22b3900$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1414429617.9747521.1665224285919.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> I haven't!! But this will be MY last comment about this. Josef YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASS HOLE! Admin---delete me if you want, but there are times to say exactly what is needed to be said.Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys To: josef-eckert at t-online.de, healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 22:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I?ve said enough, you don?t seem to get it, so I am ending this conversation. Gil From: josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 9:43 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: gilrockwell at gmail.com Subject: WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 So it isn?t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth?Is that the world you are living?But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of his vehicle while driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself and his wife in an accident.Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided with another road user which can be very likely and this would have been injured or killed.The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the person who caused the accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated and the driver's license would have been withdrawn forever. No mercy!The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not have been happy with his life anymore.Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation. It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit to such a danger.I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well, as is customary in Italy. Josef54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars -----Original-Nachricht-----Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200Von: "Gil Rockwell" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "healeyrik at gmail.com" , "'Forum Healey'" In a polite society if you don?t have anything positive to say, just be quiet, your negative comments help no one. Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand. Gil 61 BT7 From:josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM To: Gil Rockwell ; healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: AW: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion.We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. -----Original-Nachricht-----Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200Von: "Gil Rockwell" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "healeyrik at gmail.com" , "'Forum Healey'" Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil61 BT7 From: Healeys On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To:healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys wrote: Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com Virus-free.www.avast.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wdavid890dd at aol.com Sat Oct 8 04:18:10 2022 From: wdavid890dd at aol.com (wdavid890dd at aol.com) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 10:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 15, Issue 299 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1343481188.6446805.1665224290039@mail.yahoo.com> Anyone interested in a project car, there is a 60 , 3000 mark 1, bn7??on auction at Marqued.No reserve, bids at $2600. Three days left.Good luck,Dave Walsh Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Thursday, October 6, 2022, 3:25 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote: Send Healeys mailing list submissions to ??? healeys at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? healeys-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? healeys-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Michael Salter) ? 2. Re: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 (Michael Oritt) ? 3. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Alan Seigrist) ? 4. Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 ? ? ? (josef-eckert at t-online.de) ? 5. Re: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 (Team.net) ? 6. Number of color combos for BN1 (S and T Miller) Yes Stephen, as is always the case with intermittent drivability issues, it never does when you need it to ?.Of course it's that old "Prince of Darkness" thing again ... for goodness sake the roror was probably only 50 or 60 years old? ?... just plain junk??? On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:25 p.m. Stephen Hutchings, wrote: Hi Michael,I jdrove my Healey across the country (Canada) back in 1979. I had an intermittent mis-fire all through Ontario., then it cleared up. When the car quit completely in Alberta, it turned out to be the rotor, but like your experience, it took a while to diagnose. This would have been an original Lucas rotor?.so I guess they sometimes fail intermittently, like a coil, making the process of elimination quite difficult. Stephen BJ8 Sent from my iPad On Oct 4, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Michael Salter wrote: ?For all of those who, I'm sure, have been having endless sleepless nights trying to decide what could be causing my mysterious misfire problem I have the solution.It was the distributor rotor!!After making various other tests, I found time today to install a "mule" set of cap, leads and rotor and the problem was immediately resolved ... even to the extent that the idle speed, which I had found necessary to increase, needed to be readjusted back to its original settings. I then reinstalled the original 65 year cap, leaving the replacement rotor and all was well. My past experience with rotor failures, mostly from the poorly made cheapo repos, was immediate and total ignition failure. The failure of his rotor, a very old Lucas original, manifested itself very differently with the problem starting out as a very intermittent misfire which, over a period of several hours, became increasingly worse. Why the misfire vanished completely at least three times after refueling remains a complete mystery to me.Thank you to everyone who made numerous very helpful suggestions. All part of the "rich tapestry of life" I presume. M On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 7:02 PM warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: Has your gas tank ever been coated internally with a chemical liner?Gary Hodson _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com Michael-- Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks.??I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard.? As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches."Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100?Awful.? https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com Sounds like the Lucas Gremlins reside somewhere in Ontario.??? On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:56 AM Stephen Hutchings via Healeys wrote: Hi Michael,I jdrove my Healey across the country (Canada) back in 1979. I had an intermittent mis-fire all through Ontario., then it cleared up. When the car quit completely in Alberta, it turned out to be the rotor, but like your experience, it took a while to diagnose. This would have been an original Lucas rotor?.so I guess they sometimes fail intermittently, like a coil, making the process of elimination quite difficult. Stephen BJ8 Sent from my iPad On Oct 4, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Michael Salter wrote: ?For all of those who, I'm sure, have been having endless sleepless nights trying to decide what could be causing my mysterious misfire problem I have the solution.It was the distributor rotor!!After making various other tests, I found time today to install a "mule" set of cap, leads and rotor and the problem was immediately resolved ... even to the extent that the idle speed, which I had found necessary to increase, needed to be readjusted back to its original settings. I then reinstalled the original 65 year cap, leaving the replacement rotor and all was well. My past experience with rotor failures, mostly from the poorly made cheapo repos, was immediate and total ignition failure. The failure of his rotor, a very old Lucas original, manifested itself very differently with the problem starting out as a very intermittent misfire which, over a period of several hours, became increasingly worse. Why the misfire vanished completely at least three times after refueling remains a complete mystery to me.Thank you to everyone who made numerous very helpful suggestions. All part of the "rich tapestry of life" I presume. M On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 7:02 PM warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: Has your gas tank ever been coated internally with a chemical liner?Gary Hodson _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.?Josef Eckertkonigswinter/GERMANY ? ? ? -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" An: "Michael Salter" ? ? ? Michael-- ? Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks.?? I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard.? As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. ? Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. ? M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. ? From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 ? Awful.? ? https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ ? Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com ?Envy is a terrible disease. On Oct 6, 2022, at 10:17 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote: To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.?Josef Eckertkonigswinter/GERMANY ? ? ? -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 Von: "Michael Oritt" An: "Michael Salter" ? ? ? Michael-- ? Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks.?? I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard.? As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation. ? Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. ? M On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, wrote: Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys wrote: I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe at this moment. ? From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 ? Awful.? ? https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ ? Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com ?_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lawrence.swift at gmail.com Were the particular BN1 color combo's numbers every recorded or known? I've read that black BN1's with the Off White seat/ interior panels combo were only made for 6 months. Using VERY BROAD numbers: 10,010 BN1's produced over a 27 month period, with 7 main colors, leaves about 26 Black BN1's produced in a 6 month period.? With the various interior colors produced,? that could make the Black BN1 with Off White trim a fairly rare color combo?? Just curious, and yes I own one ? Also it is just a very broad shot in the dark on numbers, and I could be way off.?Shawn The Millers ? "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ Healeys mailing list Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys archives:? http://autox.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Oct 8 04:34:39 2022 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 06:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1414429617.9747521.1665224285919.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1665193379676.1483815.9118a43f537e088a09cd6899db5342f64c61b85d@spica.telekom.de> <36ce01d8dabb$40b91300$c22b3900$@gmail.com> <1414429617.9747521.1665224285919.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: <800062572.9754084.1665225279080.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> My apologies to the group. I let my emotions overrule my reason. I should have just ignored this and moved on.Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Felts To: Gil Rockwell Cc: josef-eckert at t-online.de, healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 08 Oct 2022 06:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;}I haven't!! But this will be MY last comment about this. Josef YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASS HOLE! Admin---delete me if you want, but there are times to say exactly what is needed to be said. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys To: josef-eckert at t-online.de, healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 22:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I?ve said enough, you don?t seem to get it, so I am ending this conversation. Gil From: josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 9:43 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: gilrockwell at gmail.com Subject: WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 So it isn?t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth?Is that the world you are living?But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of his vehicle while driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself and his wife in an accident.Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided with another road user which can be very likely and this would have been injured or killed.The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the person who caused the accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated and the driver's license would have been withdrawn forever. No mercy!The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not have been happy with his life anymore.Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation. It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit to such a danger.I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well, as is customary in Italy. Josef54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars -----Original-Nachricht-----Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200Von: "Gil Rockwell" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "healeyrik at gmail.com" , "'Forum Healey'" In a polite society if you don?t have anything positive to say, just be quiet, your negative comments help no one. Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand. Gil 61 BT7 From:josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM To: Gil Rockwell ; healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: AW: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion.We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. -----Original-Nachricht-----Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200Von: "Gil Rockwell" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "healeyrik at gmail.com" , "'Forum Healey'" Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil61 BT7 From: Healeys On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To:healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys wrote: Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com Virus-free.www.avast.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sat Oct 8 05:47:38 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 04:47:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: AGREED Some people just have nothing good to say. This is a tragedy plain and simple. On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 6:36 AM HealeyRick via Healeys wrote: > I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read > some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a > lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right > now: > https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux > > Rick Neville > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Awful. >> >> *https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ >> * >> >> Randy >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Sat Oct 8 08:57:20 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 10:57:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1414429617.9747521.1665224285919.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1665193379676.1483815.9118a43f537e088a09cd6899db5342f64c61b85d@spica.telekom.de> <36ce01d8dabb$40b91300$c22b3900$@gmail.com> <1414429617.9747521.1665224285919.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: <015e01d8db26$44709a20$cd51ce60$@sympatico.ca> Guys, let it be. Josef has been clear on how he feels and we have collectively told him what we think of his opinions. There will be no changing his mind, so lets accept that he lives by a different moral code that none of us (at least those that posted replies), agree with, and get back to using the list for providing mutual support to keep our Healeys on the road. Cheers, Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of Tom Felts via Healeys Sent: October 8, 2022 6:18 AM To: Gil Rockwell Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I haven't!! But this will be MY last comment about this. Josef YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASS HOLE! Admin---delete me if you want, but there are times to say exactly what is needed to be said. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys To: josef-eckert at t-online.de, healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 22:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Consolas; panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;} p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} pre {mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted Char"; margin:0in; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New";} span.HTMLPreformattedChar {mso-style-name:"HTML Preformatted Char"; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted"; font-family:Consolas;} span.y2iqfc {mso-style-name:y2iqfc;} span.EmailStyle24 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:windowtext;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --> I?ve said enough, you don?t seem to get it, so I am ending this conversation. Gil From: josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 9:43 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: gilrockwell at gmail.com Subject: WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 So it isn?t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth? Is that the world you are living? But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of his vehicle while driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself and his wife in an accident. Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided with another road user which can be very likely and this would have been injured or killed. The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the person who caused the accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated and the driver's license would have been withdrawn forever. No mercy! The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not have been happy with his life anymore. Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation. It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit to such a danger. I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well, as is customary in Italy. Josef 54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " >, "healeyrik at gmail.com " >, "'Forum Healey'" > In a polite society if you don?t have anything positive to say, just be quiet, your negative comments help no one. Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand. Gil 61 BT7 From:josef-eckert at t-online.de > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM To: Gil Rockwell >; healeyrik at gmail.com ; Forum Healey > Subject: AW: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion. We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " >, "healeyrik at gmail.com " >, "'Forum Healey'" > Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To:healeyrik at gmail.com ; Forum Healey > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys > wrote: Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avast.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sat Oct 8 11:48:05 2022 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 17:48:05 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <800062572.9754084.1665225279080.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1665193379676.1483815.9118a43f537e088a09cd6899db5342f64c61b85d@spica.telekom.de> <36ce01d8dabb$40b91300$c22b3900$@gmail.com> <1414429617.9747521.1665224285919.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> <800062572.9754084.1665225279080.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: Sad as this is, they died doing what they loved. Beats dying slowly from catastrophic health issues like cancer. When the police finish their investigation, it may turn out to be a 60+ year old car failure instead of a senior problem. Some have jumped to conclusions with no facts. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Tom Felts via Healeys Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 3:34 AM To: Tom Felts Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 My apologies to the group. I let my emotions overrule my reason. I should have just ignored this and moved on. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Felts To: Gil Rockwell Cc: josef-eckert at t-online.de, healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 08 Oct 2022 06:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I haven't!! But this will be MY last comment about this. Josef YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASS HOLE! Admin---delete me if you want, but there are times to say exactly what is needed to be said. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys To: josef-eckert at t-online.de, healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 22:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I?ve said enough, you don?t seem to get it, so I am ending this conversation. Gil From: josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 9:43 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: gilrockwell at gmail.com Subject: WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 So it isn?t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth? Is that the world you are living? But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of his vehicle while driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself and his wife in an accident. Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided with another road user which can be very likely and this would have been injured or killed. The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the person who caused the accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated and the driver's license would have been withdrawn forever. No mercy! The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not have been happy with his life anymore. Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation. It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit to such a danger. I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well, as is customary in Italy. Josef 54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" >, "healeyrik at gmail.com" >, "'Forum Healey'" > In a polite society if you don?t have anything positive to say, just be quiet, your negative comments help no one. Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand. Gil 61 BT7 From:josef-eckert at t-online.de > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM To: Gil Rockwell >; healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey > Subject: AW: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion. We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" >, "healeyrik at gmail.com" >, "'Forum Healey'" > Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To:healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux Rick Neville On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys > wrote: Awful. https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com [https://s-install.avcdn.net/ipm/preview/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free.www.avast.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edriver at sasktel.net Sat Oct 8 13:32:00 2022 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 13:32:00 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <015e01d8db26$44709a20$cd51ce60$@sympatico.ca> References: <1665193379676.1483815.9118a43f537e088a09cd6899db5342f64c61b85d@spica.telekom.de> <36ce01d8dabb$40b91300$c22b3900$@gmail.com> <1414429617.9747521.1665224285919.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> <015e01d8db26$44709a20$cd51ce60$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <28512534-7883-8c9d-7a86-804590400448@sasktel.net> Hi Mirek You speak for yourself and a limited few not for all the individuals who are subscribers to the Healey list and either do not wish to comment or find Josef views quite acceptable and see not need to comment.? In reading Josef's post of October 7th (which appears at the bottom of this page) it is very concise and well stated. Further, the individual driving the BN1/2 may have decided to avoid an accident but had not judged the verge of the road correctly (and all the related factors including his reflexes as an 82 year old person). Kind regards Ed E.A. Driver (former Historian and Director, AHCUSA) Saskatoon, Saskatchewan On 08/10/2022 08:57, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: > > Guys, let it be.? Josef has been clear on how he feels and we have > collectively told him what we think of his opinions.? There will be no > changing his mind, so lets accept that he lives by a different moral > code that none of us (at least those that posted replies), agree with, > and get back to using the list for providing mutual support to keep > our Healeys on the road. > > Cheers, Mirek > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Tom > Felts via Healeys > *Sent:* October 8, 2022 6:18 AM > *To:* Gil Rockwell > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > I haven't!!? But this will be MY last comment about this. Josef YOU > ARE A COMPLETE ASS HOLE!? Admin---delete me if you want, but there are > times to say exactly what is needed to be said. > > Tom > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys > To: josef-eckert at t-online.de, healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 22:11:18 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > @font-face > {font-family:"Cambria Math"; > panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} > @font-face > {font-family:Calibri; > panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} > @font-face > {font-family:Consolas; > panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;} > > p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal > {margin:0in; > font-size:11.0pt; > font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} > a:link, span.MsoHyperlink > {mso-style-priority:99; > color:blue; > text-decoration:underline;} > pre > {mso-style-priority:99; > mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted Char"; > margin:0in; > font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:"Courier New";} > span.HTMLPreformattedChar > {mso-style-name:"HTML Preformatted Char"; > mso-style-priority:99; > mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted"; > font-family:Consolas;} > span.y2iqfc > {mso-style-name:y2iqfc;} > span.EmailStyle24 > {mso-style-type:personal-reply; > font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; > color:windowtext;} > .MsoChpDefault > {mso-style-type:export-only; > font-size:10.0pt;} > @page WordSection1 > {size:8.5in 11.0in; > margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} > div.WordSection1 > {page:WordSection1;} > --> > > I?ve said enough, you don?t seem to get it, so I am ending this > conversation. > > Gil > > *From:*josef-eckert at t-online.de > *Sent:* Friday, October 07, 2022 9:43 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Cc:* gilrockwell at gmail.com > *Subject:* WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > So it isn?t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth? > > Is that the world you are living? > > But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car > lost control of his vehicle while driving in Italy, drove into a ditch > and killed himself and his wife in an accident. > Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have > collided with another road user which can be very likely and this > would have been injured or killed. > The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested > the person who caused the accident immediately, the car would have > been confiscated and the driver's license would have been withdrawn > forever. No mercy! > The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably > not have been happy with his life anymore. > Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a > situation.It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through > hubris, to submit to such a danger. > I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as > well, as is customary in Italy. > > Josef > > 54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > > Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200 > > Von: "Gil Rockwell" > > > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " > >, > "healeyrik at gmail.com " > >, "'Forum Healey'" > > > > In a polite society if you don?t have anything positive to say, just > be quiet,? your negative comments help no one.? Perhaps when you grow > in age, you will come to understand. > > Gil > > 61 BT7 > > *From:*josef-eckert at t-online.de > > > *Sent:*Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM > *To:*Gil Rockwell >; healeyrik at gmail.com > ; Forum Healey > > *Subject:*AW: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion. > > We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to > the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > > Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200 > > Von: "Gil Rockwell" > > > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de " > >, > "healeyrik at gmail.com " > >, "'Forum Healey'" > > > > Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all.? What you have > said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. > > Gil > > 61 BT7 > > *From:*Healeys > *On Behalf Of > *josef-eckert--- via Healeys > *Sent:*Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM > *To:*healeyrik at gmail.com ; Forum Healey > > > *Subject:*Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she > is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a > silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. > Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. > > Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not > my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in > German language. > > Josef Eckert > K?nigswinter GERMANY > > > Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App > > --- Original-Nachricht --- > Von: HealeyRick via Healeys > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 > An: Randy Hicks > Cc: Healey List > > > I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to > read some of the comments about this accident.? She and her dad seemed > to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be > grieving right now: > https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux > > > > Rick Neville > > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys > > wrote: > > Awful. > > > https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ > > > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > > Image removed by sender. > > > > > Virus-free.www.avast.com > > > ? > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/edriver at sasktel.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Perry Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 8, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Dr C A Rubino via Healeys wrote: > > ? > My sister took this pic on an annual 5 hr cruise in eastern ontario to view the leaves changing colour. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2022 4:43 AM To: S.Carr Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Hear, hear Sarah....? On Sat., Oct. 8, 2022, 1:36 p.m. S.Carr via Healeys, > wrote: This List was begun as a source of help for the care and feeding of our Austin-Healeys. Please, let us return to that original intent! Sarah Carr Ex-BN1 in PA Sent from Mail for Windows _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eps2660 at gmail.com Sat Oct 8 20:37:14 2022 From: eps2660 at gmail.com (Elton S) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 22:37:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Interior Insulation Kits? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I used a sheet of Dynaliner insulation, 32"x54"x1/4" thick and Eastwood's thermacoustic alum/adhesive under it for the floor boards and tunnel cover. Very happy with it. Elton, BJ7 On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 9:57 AM HealeyRick wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations from personal experience for a good > interior (BJ7) insulation kit? More concerned with heat insulation than > sound. What have you used and liked? > > Thanks, > Rick Neville > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state them without fear or favour. There are also ways and places of passing on opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. What I have seen here over the last few days simply shocked me and I am of the belief that it?s time to move on. ? Hoo Roo ? Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2022 4:43 AM To: S.Carr Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 ? Hear, hear Sarah....? ? On Sat., Oct. 8, 2022, 1:36 p.m. S.Carr via Healeys, wrote: This List was begun as a source of help for the care and feeding of our Austin-Healeys.? Please, let us return to that original intent! Sarah Carr Ex-BN1 in PA ? 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Ride and handling is beautiful. 1959 bt7 John Rowe. Qld Australia > Advice/Opinions please on fitiing ?Putzke?s Faharpass? shock conversion > kit on my BN2, > > vs. having my originals lever shocks rebuilt.at > > Thanks ? Chappy Rice > > > > Virus-free.www.avast.com > > <#m_-1970811463700604589_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtkarowe at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are we all that old and crabby with nothing better > to do? > Ray > > On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 08:50:52 PM PDT, Patrick & Caroline > Quinn via Healeys wrote: > > > Hello > > I wasn?t going to comment, but have had a change of mind. > > After being a member of this list for close to 30 years for the first > time I considered chucking it in. I do not share Josef?s opinion. > > We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state > them without fear or favour. There are also ways and places of passing > on opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. What I have seen here > over the last few days simply shocked me and I am of the belief that > it?s time to move on. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There are also ways and places of passing > on opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. What I have seen here > over the last few days simply shocked me and I am of the belief that > it?s time to move on. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael > Salter > *Sent:* Sunday, 9 October 2022 4:43 AM > *To:* S.Carr > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Hear, hear Sarah....? > > On Sat., Oct. 8, 2022, 1:36 p.m. S.Carr via Healeys, > wrote: > > This List was begun as a source of help for the care and feeding > of our Austin-Healeys. Please, let us return to that original intent! > > Sarah Carr > > Ex-BN1 in PA > > Sent from Mail > for Windows > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > > Virus-free.www.avast.com > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 09:08:43 2022 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 11:08:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <95699437.76700.1665233177783@epix.net> <005701d8db71$58f6db30$0ae49190$@tpg.com.au> <2056214739.6647862.1665288229699@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <109a01d8dbf1$063e5820$12bb0860$@gmail.com> Patrick, I agree with Bob. While I have not been a member of this group with you and others, I enjoy the comments from you and others and would hope that you continue to join in. While I am 80 years old and have been enjoying working on and driving my BJ8 for 40 of those years, I hope to continue to enjoy the work, the ride, and the comments from the group. Regards, Bob Begani From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 10:24 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I for one would be sorry to see you go, Patrick. We've never met, and likely never will, but after a few years you feel you kind of 'know' people you've shared experiences with (even if just remotely). Bob On 10/8/2022 9:03 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote: Well put Patrick. Are we all that old and crabby with nothing better to do? Ray On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 08:50:52 PM PDT, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: Hello I wasn?t going to comment, but have had a change of mind. After being a member of this list for close to 30 years for the first time I considered chucking it in. I do not share Josef?s opinion. We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state them without fear or favour. 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Is it an original part? > Certainly a vast improvement over the bare nut. > > M > > On Sun., Oct. 9, 2022, 1:11 a.m. Ray Juncal via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Anyone out there have one of these that they would be willing to part >> with? Not sure what to call it but it's the trim cap on the O.D. toggle >> switch. Details, details, details. >> Thanks >> Ray >> >> [image: Inline image] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are we all that old and crabby with nothing better to do? >> Ray >> >> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 08:50:52 PM PDT, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: >> >> >> Hello >> >> >> I wasn?t going to comment, but have had a change of mind. >> >> >> After being a member of this list for close to 30 years for the first time I considered chucking it in. I do not share Josef?s opinion. >> >> >> We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state them without fear or favour. There are also ways and places of passing on opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. 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URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Sun Oct 9 11:44:10 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 13:44:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <572964b4-bf69-383a-8f33-990128fce7dc@comcast.net> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <95699437.76700.1665233177783@epix.net> <005701d8db71$58f6db30$0ae49190$@tpg.com.au> <572964b4-bf69-383a-8f33-990128fce7dc@comcast.net> Message-ID: <01fc01d8dc06$bd4ca160$37e5e420$@sympatico.ca> I agree, hang in there Patrick, your contributions are valued. From: Healeys On Behalf Of Mike Sinclair Sent: October 9, 2022 11:00 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Well, said, Patrick, but don't leave. The list is valuable and you are part of it. Mike On 10/8/22 4:54 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: Hello I wasn?t going to comment, but have had a change of mind. After being a member of this list for close to 30 years for the first time I considered chucking it in. I do not share Josef?s opinion. We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state them without fear or favour. There are also ways and places of passing on opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. What I have seen here over the last few days simply shocked me and I am of the belief that it?s time to move on. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2022 4:43 AM To: S.Carr Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Hear, hear Sarah....? On Sat., Oct. 8, 2022, 1:36 p.m. S.Carr via Healeys, > wrote: This List was begun as a source of help for the care and feeding of our Austin-Healeys. Please, let us return to that original intent! Sarah Carr Ex-BN1 in PA Sent from Mail for Windows _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Consider the source of the differing viewpoint and please continue to contribute to the list. It's a fair dinkum list. OK let's move forward. Best regards, Dave W. '59 :() '59 MGA 1500 Waukesha WI "Pay It Forward" On Sat, Oct 8, 2022, 10:51 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hello > > > > I wasn?t going to comment, but have had a change of mind. > > > > After being a member of this list for close to 30 years for the first time > I considered chucking it in. I do not share Josef?s opinion. > > > > We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state them > without fear or favour. There are also ways and places of passing on > opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. What I have seen here over > the last few days simply shocked me and I am of the belief that it?s time > to move on. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael > Salter > *Sent:* Sunday, 9 October 2022 4:43 AM > *To:* S.Carr > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > > > Hear, hear Sarah....? > > > > On Sat., Oct. 8, 2022, 1:36 p.m. S.Carr via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > This List was begun as a source of help for the care and feeding of our > Austin-Healeys. 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URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 12:39:58 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 11:39:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Small parts In-Reply-To: References: <1531460625.6635328.1665286405291.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1531460625.6635328.1665286405291@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: looks like a bathroom pipe cover Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 11:12 AM Curtis Arndt via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Ray, > > Same here. I've never seen one of these before, and I've seen a lot of > BN1s. > > Curt > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 6:11 AM Michael Salter > wrote: > >> I have never seen one of those before Ray. Is it an original part? >> Certainly a vast improvement over the bare nut. >> >> M >> >> On Sun., Oct. 9, 2022, 1:11 a.m. Ray Juncal via Healeys, < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> Anyone out there have one of these that they would be willing to part >>> with? Not sure what to call it but it's the trim cap on the O.D. toggle >>> switch. 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URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 12:42:58 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 11:42:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Interior Insulation Kits? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I used HVAC insulation material I bought at big box stores, aluminum tape for seams and fiberglass mat under my transmission tunnel. Left hand drive and I get cold on winter drives :) Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 7:09 AM HealeyRick wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations from personal experience for a good > interior (BJ7) insulation kit? More concerned with heat insulation than > sound. What have you used and liked? > > Thanks, > Rick Neville > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josef-eckert at t-online.de Sun Oct 9 13:15:22 2022 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 21:15:22 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] WG: Re: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Message-ID: <1665342922822.1544286.5c4775cfc7ab8f014b9846237ae8c43548b8df2d@spica.telekom.de> Dear fellow readers and co-writers in this list. I am far from being emotional and serious about what others have written here on this topic and their opinion of me. I'll probably never meet anyone on this list and because you might drive the same car or one of the same make, you don't have to be friends. For me I can live well with everything that has been said here, just think to myself with one or the other post that the person lives in a world that I left behind for a long time. I am neither religious nor prudish and can accept everything that is said. Thank goodness we probably all who write here live in a free world. What puts me off is that in some places you don't recognize dangers and thus endanger other bystanders. I'm glad that here where I live you can't get dangerous weapons and you don't run the risk of dying from them. We are also free to decide about ourselves here and whether white or black or any other colour, man or woman or other kind, about ourselves and what we can decide freely, as long as we can't endanger others around us who are not involved. Meanwhile I live with my Austin-Healeys for more than 40 years and restored them all three (Sprite MK3 (my first classic), 100, 3000 BT7) completely to Concours condition. So most technical I read here is nothing new to me, but the one or other input, especially from persons who are well experianced, I really enjoy..I came to this list some 25 years ago to follow technical discussions and saw them very interesting and useful to me, especially to find the one or other useful hint. I am very thankful to this list as it helped through many years of my Healey ownership. Meanwhile I am fine to read some useful posts, but I can also delete many others which give me no input. I can only plea to all others. Take this list as a useful source, but don?t forget the real world is with friends you meet in real life and not in the world wide web. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter / GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-09T17:10:48+0200 Von: "Bob Spidell" An: "healeys at autox.team.net" I for one would be sorry to see you go, Patrick. We've never met, and likely never will, but after a few years you feel you kind of 'know' people you've shared experiences with (even if just remotely). Bob On 10/8/2022 9:03 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote: Well put Patrick. Are we all that old and crabby with nothing better to do? Ray On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 08:50:52 PM PDT, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: Hello I wasn?t going to comment, but have had a change of mind. After being a member of this list for close to 30 years for the first time I considered chucking it in. I do not share Josef?s opinion. We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state them without fear or favour. There are also ways and places of passing on opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. What I have seen here over the last few days simply shocked me and I am of the belief that it?s time to move on. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sun Oct 9 13:23:21 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2022 19:23:21 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Small parts Message-ID: <27c37d5c99f083481f222a52fd1e2444b455a261@webmail> I can see by the indents in the escushian plate that someone has added that chrome ring to "dress up" the rather bland Lightning switch and knurled ring which is the original fixing (shown). They must have used a longer toggle as well and some way to hold the chrome ring in place. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Curtis Arndt via Healeys" To: "Michael Salter" Cc: "List Healey" Sent: Sunday October 9 2022 11:12:33AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Small parts Ray, Same here. I've never seen one of these before, and I've seen a lot of BN1s. Curt On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 6:11 AM Michael Salter wrote: I have never seen one of those before Ray. Is it an original part? Certainly a vast improvement over the bare nut. M On Sun., Oct. 9, 2022, 1:11 a.m. Ray Juncal via Healeys, wrote: Anyone out there have one of these that they would be willing to part with? Not sure what to call it but it's the trim cap on the O.D. toggle switch. Details, details, details. 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A more interesting topic than some recently...Ray On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 05:38:38 AM PDT, Michael Salter wrote: I have never seen one of those before Ray. Is it an original part?Certainly a vast?improvement over the bare nut. M On Sun., Oct. 9, 2022, 1:11 a.m. Ray Juncal via Healeys, wrote: Anyone out there have one of these that they would be willing to part with? Not sure what to call it but it's the trim cap on the O.D. toggle switch. Details, details, details. Thanks Ray _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Bob Begani From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 10:24 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 I for one would be sorry to see you go, Patrick. We've never met, and likely never will, but after a few years you feel you kind of 'know' people you've shared experiences with (even if just remotely). Bob On 10/8/2022 9:03 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote: Well put Patrick. Are we all that old and crabby with nothing better to do? Ray On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 08:50:52 PM PDT, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: Hello I wasn?t going to comment, but have had a change of mind. After being a member of this list for close to 30 years for the first time I considered chucking it in. I do not share Josef?s opinion. We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state them without fear or favour. There are also ways and places of passing on opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. What I have seen here over the last few days simply shocked me and I am of the belief that it?s time to move on. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pdzwig at summaventures.com Sun Oct 9 16:52:11 2022 From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 23:52:11 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <95699437.76700.1665233177783@epix.net> <005701d8db71$58f6db30$0ae49190$@tpg.com.au> <2056214739.6647862.1665288229699@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0495d77c-e4f1-3aca-1e91-bd9502deca71@summaventures.com> Patrick, please don't leave. This list would be the less for your departure. I for one have valued your knowledge down the years, even if I do not always comment. Hang in there mate! Peter On 09/10/2022 15:23, Bob Spidell wrote: > I for one would be sorry to see you go, Patrick. We've never met, and > likely never will, but after a few years you feel you kind of 'know' > people you've shared experiences with (even if just remotely). > > Bob > > > On 10/8/2022 9:03 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote: >> Well put Patrick. Are we all that old and crabby with nothing better >> to do? >> Ray >> >> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 08:50:52 PM PDT, Patrick & Caroline >> Quinn via Healeys wrote: >> >> >> Hello >> >> I wasn?t going to comment, but have had a change of mind. >> >> After being a member of this list for close to 30 years for the first >> time I considered chucking it in. I do not share Josef?s opinion. >> >> We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state >> them without fear or favour. There are also ways and places of passing >> on opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. What I have seen here >> over the last few days simply shocked me and I am of the belief that >> it?s time to move on. >> >> Hoo Roo >> >> Patrick Quinn >> >> Blue Mountains, Australia >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pdzwig at summaventures.com > -- Dr. Peter Dzwig From pdzwig at summaventures.com Sun Oct 9 17:05:40 2022 From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 00:05:40 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <1665124717176.1335820.2c0909c91232a52ae15c7ec8636f14b49352afc8@spica.telekom.de> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de> <1665124717176.1335820.2c0909c91232a52ae15c7ec8636f14b49352afc8@spica.telekom.de> Message-ID: Josef, I live in England and have driven widely across much of western Europe, including France, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, Italy. I drive regularly down country lanes with deep ditches and walls. So by your criteria I *can* comment. I have to say that I am appalled and that yours is one of the most crass and unfeeling comments that I have ever heard. That could have happened to any one of us on the list. We should all be grateful that it wasn't us, regardless of age. I have tried to make allowance for the fact that English is not your mother tongue and am well aware of differences of expression and directness throughout Europe. Nonetheless your remark lacks common humanity. You are of course entitled to your opinion, but should know when to keep it to yourself. Now let's get back to Healeys! Peter On 07/10/2022 07:38, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote: > Please only comment if you know the traffic situation here in Central > Europe. I also do not allow myself > to make any statements about the situation in the USA or Canada. We live > here in narrow conurbations > and the traffic on country roads should not be underestimated. Places > are usually a maximum of 10km apart. > > The next time you are in Europe, drive a car on our European country > roads or motorways and you will > find that the traffic situations and road conditions are completely > different than in a country as > large as the USA or Canada. As a driver, you are quickly overwhelmed if > you are not used to it. > Unfortunately, we have a lot of older people here who can no longer cope > with this traffic situation > and are extremely dangerous to themselves and their environment. In our > area we have accidents like > this every month. And this described accident is typical. There is > nothing wrong with being able to > drive a car as an older person. However, the accident described is the > typical accident without > external influence - probably a health weakness caused by being > overwhelmed, as we often have here. > Unfortunately, bystanders are often injured or even fatally injured in > an accident. > > Josef Eckert > > PS: Those from the US who are commng over to the European Healey Event > 2023 (Geiranger) may realise, they need to drive in different situations > as they are used to, at least when passing Belgium, The Netherlands, > France, Germany, Denmark. > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Datum: 2022-10-07T00:31:18+0200 > > Von: "David Nock BCS" > > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "Jim Ryan" > > > So I assume that you know that his driving ability was the cause of the > accident. Maybe someone or something was in the road and he tried to > avoid it, or maybe there was a mechanical failure. > Are you will to give up your license at a set age no matter your > physical health. > If you are assuming it was his age then how about you set an age that > everyone has to stop driving and see how far that goes > I know many people well into there 80s that are perfectly safe drivers. > David Nock > *From:* josef-eckert--- via Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, October 06, 2022 12:32 PM > *To:* Jim Ryan > *Cc:* Forum Healey > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Yes, please forward my comment to his family. > > This person hasn?t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other > people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, > which are on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not > hurt by such a person. > > Sorry, no mercy at all from my side. > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200 > > Von: "Jim Ryan" > > An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" > > Well, THAT was harsh.? You might want to forward that to his family just > so they know how you feel about him.? When exactly is it you think? we > should all stop driving?? Is it 75?? 80?? I'm 71, I just want to get > your advice on what age I'm endangering other people. > That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list. > On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys > wrote: > > To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 > years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. > Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. > > Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, > trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. > > For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure > ra?lys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to > come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those > mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with > their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old > classic car. > > One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more > capable to drive. > > I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey. > Josef Eckert > konigswinter/GERMANY > > > > > > > > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 > > Von: "Michael Oritt" > > An: "Michael Salter" > > > > > > > > Michael-- > > > > Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. > > I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, > somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's > front yard.? As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we > cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the > car and took off without much conversation. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: > > "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." > > Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up > on the Targa there. > > > > M > > On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, > wrote: > > Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, > but they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open > drainage ditches. > > > On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys > wrote: > > I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if > this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey > Association members are on in Europe at this moment. > > > > From: Healeys on behalf of Randy > Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM > To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 > > > > Awful. > > > > https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ > > > > > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > > -- > > Jim Ryan____ > > ???? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > ? > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pdzwig at summaventures.com > -- Dr. Peter Dzwig From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Sun Oct 9 17:24:09 2022 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 23:24:09 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Conversion to single battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Absolutely, if you are not entering Concours, I feel that a single 12 volts is the way to go.It is far cheaper to buy to start with, will last longer too. I ran two 6 vols in my BN6, then changed to 12 volts and will never go back. Either you find a battery that is the size of your current battery tray or you fabricate a larger one although space is rather limited back there. Jean Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Michael MacLean Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 1:20:08 PM To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] Conversion to single battery As of now the cable from the solenoid is on my BN2, but I have not run any other battery cables yet. I have two repro Lucas 6 volt batteries waiting for battery acid to be added for the first time. As this car will not be a candidate for concours judging I am considering conversion to a single 12 volt battery. What is the easiest way to do this? What series 12 volt battery is used for this? Anyone have any pictures of their conversion, wiring instructions? 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Good time for a top down cruise. > Perry > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 8, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Dr C A Rubino via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > My sister took this pic on an annual 5 hr cruise in eastern ontario to > view the leaves changing colour. > > > > > > [image: IMG_3649.jpg]_______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah3000me at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 8:09 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I can see by the indents in the escushian plate that someone has added > that chrome ring to "dress up" the rather bland Lightning switch and > knurled ring which is the original fixing (shown). They must have used a > longer toggle as well and some way to hold the chrome ring in place. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Curtis Arndt via Healeys" > To: "Michael Salter" > Cc: "List Healey" > Sent: Sunday October 9 2022 11:12:33AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Small parts > > Ray, > > Same here. I've never seen one of these before, and I've seen a lot of > BN1s. > > Curt > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 6:11 AM Michael Salter > wrote: > >> I have never seen one of those before Ray. Is it an original part? >> Certainly a vast improvement over the bare nut. >> >> M >> >> On Sun., Oct. 9, 2022, 1:11 a.m. Ray Juncal via Healeys, < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> Anyone out there have one of these that they would be willing to part >>> with? Not sure what to call it but it's the trim cap on the O.D. toggle >>> switch. 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Moderator, please look at removing people that think > this forum is an outlet for their outrages, prejudices and > narrowmindedness. > John in Wisconsin, USA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 22:53:40 2022 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 21:53:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Shock Conversion In-Reply-To: <037301d8dba2$163b4e80$42b1eb80$@glasgow-ky.com> References: <037301d8dba2$163b4e80$42b1eb80$@glasgow-ky.com> Message-ID: I have 2 data points for you... My friend Dave has this conversion on his BJ-8 and loves it. The car seems to ride and handle quite nicely. I also have it on my early BJ-8, but with a new Jule frame. I find the combination of the already stiff Jule frame and the gas shocks to be a bit stiff for my taste. On the other hand, a friend recently drove it from Detroit to Las Vegas and said it rides and handles well. I suspect that if I had a car with an original frame I would do it again, but not on a Jule frame. I hope this helps. ________________ Best Regards, Al Fuller On Sat, Oct 8, 2022, 11:46 PM Charles Rice via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Advice/Opinions please on fitiing ?Putzke?s Faharpass? shock conversion > kit on my BN2, > > vs. having my originals lever shocks rebuilt. > > Thanks ? Chappy Rice > > > > Virus-free.www.avast.com > > <#m_-3740395262513531161_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 04:40:46 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 06:40:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conversion to single battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike-- I'll try to find the brand and model for the single 12VDC battery I use in my BN1 and post a pic later. In any case I would suggest you find a 12VDC gel battery without top terminals to lower its height and instead find a model that has female terminals on one side, enabling you to more easily pass it through the hatch in the squab. I use the space that had been consumed by the (former) left side 6VDC battery to mount a large Tupperware-style container in which I stow a scissors-jack and handle and other gear related to tire changing as it will be made accessible once the spare tire is removed for changing. Best--Michael Oritt BN1 On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 12:29 AM Jean Caron via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Absolutely, if you are not entering Concours, I feel that a single 12 > volts is the way to go.It is far cheaper to buy to start with, will last > longer too. I ran two 6 vols in my BN6, then changed to 12 volts and will > never go back. > Either you find a battery that is the size of your current battery tray or > you fabricate a larger one although space is rather limited back there. > Jean > > Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Michael > MacLean > *Sent:* Sunday, October 9, 2022 1:20:08 PM > *To:* Ahealey help > *Subject:* [Healeys] Conversion to single battery > > As of now the cable from the solenoid is on my BN2, but I have not run any > other battery cables yet. I have two repro Lucas 6 volt batteries waiting > for battery acid to be added for the first time. As this car will not be a > candidate for concours judging I am considering conversion to a single 12 > volt battery. What is the easiest way to do this? What series 12 volt > battery is used for this? 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Jean Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. ________________________________ From: Healeys > on behalf of Michael MacLean > Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 1:20:08 PM To: Ahealey help > Subject: [Healeys] Conversion to single battery As of now the cable from the solenoid is on my BN2, but I have not run any other battery cables yet. I have two repro Lucas 6 volt batteries waiting for battery acid to be added for the first time. As this car will not be a candidate for concours judging I am considering conversion to a single 12 volt battery. What is the easiest way to do this? What series 12 volt battery is used for this? Anyone have any pictures of their conversion, wiring instructions? Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 10 06:04:04 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 08:04:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tightening bolts In-Reply-To: <000701d8dc9b$a32656b0$e9730410$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000701d8dc9b$a32656b0$e9730410$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <026001d8dca0$64735df0$2d5a19d0$@sympatico.ca> Hi Simon, I often use an anti-seize paste on threads and I have never had a fastener loosen off and it definitely aids removal later. For example, One common component to seize is the capillary tube where it goes through the nut on the temperature sensor. For decades I have coated the tube where it passes through the nut, as well as the thread, and it makes removal of that nasty little thing so much easier. Mind you, it is a tapered pipe thread and they tend to stay tight. Another instance is brake line fittings; I slide the fitting back, lightly coat the brake line and then slide the fitting up to the flare, and coat the threads on the fitting, taking care not to get any into the hydraulic circuit. I have never broken a brake line from it seizing in the nut after doing this. I use "Copper Anti Seize" made by Permatex. Cheers, Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: October 10, 2022 7:30 AM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Tightening bolts I had to loosen the bolts attaching the hinges on my BT7 the other day. 6 of them turned quite easily after some fairly hefty initial work. One needs a couple of whacks with an impact driver to get it started and one was just plain loose. So, now I want to tighten them up. Plainly, I want to be able to undo them again at some time or other.. Does the team think that something like Coppaslip (or whatever it's called) is a good idea. Half of me says, "Use it. You'll be able to tighten them up that little bit more while still being able to undo them later". And the other half says, "Don't use it. It will enable the bolts to loosen themselves off." Which half of me is right??? Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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One needs a couple of whacks with an impact driver to get it started and one was just plain loose. So, now I want to tighten them up. Plainly, I want to be able to undo them again at some time or other?. Does the team think that something like Coppaslip (or whatever it?s called) is a good idea. Half of me says, ?Use it. You?ll be able to tighten them up that little bit more while still being able to undo them later?. And the other half says, ?Don?t use it. It will enable the bolts to loosen themselves off.? Which half of me is right??? Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 10 10:28:21 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 09:28:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tightening bolts In-Reply-To: <026001d8dca0$64735df0$2d5a19d0$@sympatico.ca> References: <000701d8dc9b$a32656b0$e9730410$@alexarevel.plus.com> <026001d8dca0$64735df0$2d5a19d0$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <759fc6e0-f8d3-5214-43dc-ae4ca1aefe4c@comcast.net> It's not, or shouldn't be, friction on the threads that holds a bolted joint together; it's the loaded tension of the stretched bolt. For any bolted joint potentially exposed to moisture, with a few exceptions*, anti-seize is appropriate. Common (cheap) anti-seize, which uses ground ceramics, is OK for non-high-temp applications; copper-based is better, and nickel-based is best for high-temp applications (ex. EGR valves, spark plugs, etc.). Like Mirek, and after much thought, I've taken to carefully putting a bit of A-S on brake fitting threads. Maybe it's newer (lack of) quality fittings and cylinders, but in the brake work I've done recently the fittings haven't screwed-in as easily as I think they should, and we've all probably rounded the 'nut' on brake fittings that have gotten corrosion-welded in place (requiring cutting and replacing the line and possibly the cylinder). Note brake fluid shouldn't ever come in contact with the A-S, if the BF is getting past its seal that has to be addressed properly. Fasterner 'science' is fascinating Explained well here: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=bolt+fastening+theory#kpvalbx=_IzREY-bKO43ZkPIP16m4qAE_44 More: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolted_joint * Where I don't use A-S, I may use threadlocker (usually blue, red for inserts). I can't make up my mind on wheel studs; A-S for easy removal, threadlocker for 'security' or nothing. Note both A-S and threadlocker will affect bolt/stud tension for a given torque value. On 10/10/2022 5:04 AM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: > > Hi Simon, I often use an anti-seize paste on threads and I have never > had a fastener loosen off and it definitely aids removal later.? For > example, One common component to seize is the capillary tube where it > goes through the nut on the temperature sensor.? For decades I have > coated the tube where it passes through the nut, ?as well as the > thread, and it makes removal of that nasty little thing so much > easier.? Mind you, it is a tapered pipe thread and they tend to stay > tight.? Another instance is brake line fittings; I slide the fitting > back, lightly coat the brake line and then slide the fitting up to the > flare, and coat the threads on the fitting, taking care not to get any > into the hydraulic circuit.? I have never broken a brake line from it > seizing in the nut after doing this. I use ?Copper Anti Seize? made by > Permatex. > > Cheers, Mirek > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Simon > Lachlan via Healeys > *Sent:* October 10, 2022 7:30 AM > *To:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* [Healeys] Tightening bolts > > I had to loosen the bolts attaching the hinges on my BT7 the other > day. 6 of them turned quite easily after some fairly hefty initial > work. One needs a couple of whacks with an impact driver to get it > started and one was just plain loose. > > So, now I want to tighten them up. Plainly, I want to be able to undo > them again at some time or other?. > > Does the team think that something like Coppaslip (or whatever it?s > called) is a good idea. Half of me says, ?Use it. You?ll be able to > tighten them up that little bit more while still being able to undo > them later?. > > And the other half says, ?Don?t use it. It will enable the bolts to > loosen themselves off.? > > Which half of me is right??? > > Thanks, > > Simon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyray at yahoo.com Mon Oct 10 11:09:00 2022 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 17:09:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Small parts In-Reply-To: References: <27c37d5c99f083481f222a52fd1e2444b455a261@webmail> Message-ID: <1917892437.7158103.1665421740622@mail.yahoo.com> Michael / List? The consensus is this is not an original part. Closer inspection revealed that the switch itself is American made. That would lead to the conclusion that this was a replacement of the original switch done before 1963 when the car came into my family's possession. I think I'll keep it for sentimental reasons and use a stock appearing hex nut on the next project.ThanksRayPS: Sometimes you learn something, sometimes you learn not something.... ? On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 10:41:31 PM PDT, Michael Oritt wrote: Ray-- Not that I am in any?way an expert on originality?but when my 100 came to me it was quite original and it did not have the piece you?describe.?? A couple of 100 experts are not?familiar with it either. Why do you feel the piece?should?be there?? Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 8:09 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: I can see by the indents in the escushian plate that someone has added that chrome ring to "dress up" the rather bland Lightning switch and knurled ring which is the original fixing (shown). They must have used a longer toggle as well and some way to hold the chrome ring in place. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Curtis Arndt via Healeys" To: "Michael Salter" Cc: "List Healey" Sent: Sunday October 9 2022 11:12:33AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Small parts Ray,? Same here. I've never seen one of these before, and I've seena lot of BN1s. Curt On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 6:11 AMMichael Salter wrote: I have never seen one of those before Ray. Is it anoriginal part?Certainly a vast?improvement over the barenut. M On Sun., Oct. 9, 2022, 1:11 a.m.Ray Juncal via Healeys, wrote: Anyone out there have one of these that they wouldbe willing to part with? Not sure what to call it but it's the trimcap on the O.D. toggle switch. Details, details, details. 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Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Michael Oritt via Healeys Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 10:40 AM To: Jean Caron Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Conversion to single battery Mike-- I'll try to find the brand and model for the single 12VDC battery I use in my BN1 and post a pic later. In any case I would suggest you find a 12VDC gel battery without top terminals to lower its height and instead find a model that has female terminals on one side, enabling you to more easily pass it through the hatch in the squab. I use the space that had been consumed by the (former) left side 6VDC battery to mount a large Tupperware-style container in which I stow a scissors-jack and handle and other gear related to tire changing as it will be made accessible once the spare tire is removed for changing. Best--Michael Oritt BN1 On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 12:29 AM Jean Caron via Healeys > wrote: Absolutely, if you are not entering Concours, I feel that a single 12 volts is the way to go.It is far cheaper to buy to start with, will last longer too. I ran two 6 vols in my BN6, then changed to 12 volts and will never go back. Either you find a battery that is the size of your current battery tray or you fabricate a larger one although space is rather limited back there. Jean Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. ________________________________ From: Healeys > on behalf of Michael MacLean > Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 1:20:08 PM To: Ahealey help > Subject: [Healeys] Conversion to single battery As of now the cable from the solenoid is on my BN2, but I have not run any other battery cables yet. I have two repro Lucas 6 volt batteries waiting for battery acid to be added for the first time. 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URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Tue Oct 11 04:17:06 2022 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 21:17:06 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <0495d77c-e4f1-3aca-1e91-bd9502deca71@summaventures.com> References: <1665065833684.1319698.c69e7a51d8ac05e3a3c899be9fabfa4c0654bdf0@spica.telekom.de> <95699437.76700.1665233177783@epix.net> <005701d8db71$58f6db30$0ae49190$@tpg.com.au> <2056214739.6647862.1665288229699@mail.yahoo.com> <0495d77c-e4f1-3aca-1e91-bd9502deca71@summaventures.com> Message-ID: <012a01d8dd5a$9d51f9a0$d7f5ece0$@tpg.com.au> Hello Thank you to everyone. I am really quite touched by the wonderfully warm messages I have received. In the 30+ years I have been part of this list, apart from fellow Aussies and Kiwis, I have had the pleasure of meeting five fellow list members. There were three in the 1990s (one I first met in 1975 when I visited the US) while they visited Australia, then Ray Juncal in 2008 when we met at the Laguna Seca Historic Racing and finally Steve and Freida Byers when they visited Sydney a couple of years back. All are genuinely lovely people who were a pleasure to meet and enhance our friendships. I still correspond regularly to some outside the list traffic. Hence why I was so taken aback by the vitriol. Putting all that behind, I bought my first 100 in 1972 at age 20, and in addition to Healeys and Austin-Healeys I have been involved in Historic Motorsport since before that and still am. There are many competent and enthusiastic drivers who have added OBE after their sign written names on their cars. No they haven't all been awarded the Order of the British Empire. Many are Over Bloody Eighty. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com From alanwassermannc at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 14:28:30 2022 From: alanwassermannc at gmail.com (Alan Wasserman) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:28:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] battery Message-ID: The 12v battery needs to be the ?27? model. Alan Wasserman alanwassermannc at gmail.com 732-887-0742 www.wassermanstudio.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyray at yahoo.com Tue Oct 11 22:45:11 2022 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 04:45:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Speedos... no not that kind, References: <549888019.684694.1665549911680.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <549888019.684694.1665549911680@mail.yahoo.com> Well a side trip on the dash board project involved finishing up some speedometers that had been cleaned up but not finished so I could pick the best one to use. Looks like I will get two pretty good ones and an acceptable / usable one out of the four I started with. Stripping and repainting the needles had me worried but they came out nice. The works looked good just blow the dust out and some light oil. An interesting project. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0713.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3829320 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Wed Oct 12 03:16:12 2022 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 22:16:12 +1300 Subject: [Healeys] Speedos... no not that kind, In-Reply-To: <549888019.684694.1665549911680@mail.yahoo.com> References: <549888019.684694.1665549911680.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <549888019.684694.1665549911680@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001d8de1b$467a67e0$d36f37a0$@xtra.co.nz> Nice work, Ray. Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Ray Juncal Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2022 5:45 PM To: List Healey Subject: [Healeys] Speedos... no not that kind, Well a side trip on the dash board project involved finishing up some speedometers that had been cleaned up but not finished so I could pick the best one to use. Looks like I will get two pretty good ones and an acceptable / usable one out of the four I started with. Stripping and repainting the needles had me worried but they came out nice. The works looked good just blow the dust out and some light oil. An interesting project. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 10/11/2022 9:45 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote: > Well a side trip on the dash board project involved finishing up some > speedometers that had been cleaned up but not finished so I could pick > the best one to use. Looks like I will get two pretty good ones and an > acceptable / usable one out of the four I started with. Stripping and > repainting the needles had me worried but they came out nice. The > works looked good just blow the dust out and some light oil. An > interesting project.Inline image > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyray at yahoo.com Wed Oct 12 10:35:28 2022 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 16:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Speedos... no not that kind, In-Reply-To: References: <549888019.684694.1665549911680.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <549888019.684694.1665549911680@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <835677283.914728.1665592529506@mail.yahoo.com> Ira?? I was lucky in that these were in pretty good shape. One had the glass broken and was exposed to the elements but could have been repaired except for the oxidized silver on the face. (anyone have a fix for that?) so that became a parts donor. I cleaned and re-painted the cases and needles that had flaking paint and lightly cleaned and oiled the works. Locating the O-rings might be a problem. A while back someone on the list made a run of O-rings they may still be around. You need a square ring for instrument to dash, a round 1/8"+- for the bezel and a 1/6" under the glass.? The re-set knob for the trip mileage is held on with a very small brass screw which will no doubt be impossible to remove. I drilled out the thread end of the screw which left a 1/16" through hole and used a brass cotter pin to replace the screw. It's all pretty logical just use a light touch and be really careful. Ray On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 10:15:05 PM PDT, i erbs wrote: looking good,I need?to get my BN4 speedo rebuilt. Any handy tricks to share? Ira erbsMilwaukie,OR? ? ? _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______ ? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) ? ? ? ?? (_________________________)? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB ? A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 10:05 PM Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote: Well a side trip on the dash board project involved finishing up some speedometers that had been cleaned up but not finished so I could pick the best one to use. Looks like I will get two pretty good ones and an acceptable / usable one out of the four I started with. Stripping and repainting the needles had me worried but they came out nice. The works looked good just blow the dust out and some light oil. 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I cleaned and re-painted the cases and needles that had flaking paint and lightly cleaned and oiled the works. Locating the O-rings might be a problem. A while back someone on the list made a run of O-rings they may still be around. You need a square ring for instrument to dash, a round 1/8"+- for the bezel and a 1/6" under the glass.? The re-set knob for the trip mileage is held on with a very small brass screw which will no doubt be impossible to remove. I drilled out the thread end of the screw which left a 1/16" through hole and used a brass cotter pin to replace the screw. It's all pretty logical just use a light touch and be really careful. Ray On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 10:15:05 PM PDT, i erbs wrote: looking good,I need?to get my BN4 speedo rebuilt. Any handy tricks to share? Ira erbsMilwaukie,OR? ? ? _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______ ? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) ? ? ? ?? (_________________________)? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB ? A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 10:05 PM Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote: Well a side trip on the dash board project involved finishing up some speedometers that had been cleaned up but not finished so I could pick the best one to use. Looks like I will get two pretty good ones and an acceptable / usable one out of the four I started with. Stripping and repainting the needles had me worried but they came out nice. The works looked good just blow the dust out and some light oil. An interesting project. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Does the team think that something like Coppaslip (or whatever it's called) is a good idea. Half of me says, "Use it. You'll be able to tighten them up that little bit more while still being able to undo them later". And the other half says, "Don't use it. It will enable the bolts to loosen themselves off." Which half of me is right??? Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kentmclean at comcast.net Thu Oct 13 11:07:07 2022 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 13:07:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] It's time to let it go Message-ID: <3EE45217-2358-4888-AF5C-EDC44142D3B3@comcast.net> I've owned my 1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the intention of restoring it, but life has gotten in the way and it is still waiting for my attention. It is with a heavy heart that I've resigned myself to passing along the dream. Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, and I'll give you the details. First detail: it is located in New Hampshire, USA. The list has first dibs; if it doesn't sell here, it goes to eBay. Kent McLean '56 100 and '60 Bugeye From ryan at jimryan.com Fri Oct 14 07:06:05 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:06:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] It's time to let it go In-Reply-To: <3EE45217-2358-4888-AF5C-EDC44142D3B3@comcast.net> References: <3EE45217-2358-4888-AF5C-EDC44142D3B3@comcast.net> Message-ID: Hey Kent, On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM Kent McLean wrote: > I've owned my 1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the intention > of restoring it, but life has gotten in the way and it is still waiting for > my attention. It is with a heavy heart that I've resigned myself to passing > along the dream. Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, and I'll give you > the details. First detail: it is located in New Hampshire, USA. The list > has first dibs; if it doesn't sell here, it goes to eBay. > > Kent McLean > '56 100 and '60 Bugeye > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Fri Oct 14 07:10:56 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:10:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] It's time to let it go In-Reply-To: References: <3EE45217-2358-4888-AF5C-EDC44142D3B3@comcast.net> Message-ID: Sorry, fat fingered that last email. What I was going to say was how similar your story is to mine. I bought a BJ 7 in 1974, never really fully restored it as I wanted to, and neither of my son's wanted it. So I ended up selling it for what I could get about four years ago and picked up a little Bugeye driver. I still have it and in some ways enjoying it more than the big Healy. Anyway, what part of New Hampshire are you in? I'm on the Seacoast. On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 9:06 AM Jim Ryan wrote: > Hey Kent, > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM Kent McLean wrote: > >> I've owned my 1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the >> intention of restoring it, but life has gotten in the way and it is still >> waiting for my attention. It is with a heavy heart that I've resigned >> myself to passing along the dream. Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, >> and I'll give you the details. First detail: it is located in New >> Hampshire, USA. The list has first dibs; if it doesn't sell here, it goes >> to eBay. >> >> Kent McLean >> '56 100 and '60 Bugeye >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgmoog at optonline.net Fri Oct 14 08:32:26 2022 From: cgmoog at optonline.net (Christopher Moog) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:32:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] It's time to let it go In-Reply-To: References: <3EE45217-2358-4888-AF5C-EDC44142D3B3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <842b6e6c-3f63-fe92-8524-eab2360d2b0b@optonline.net> What is this a running theme. I purchased a BJ7 in the mid 1990s. Started restoring. Moved several times. When I retrieved it from a rental garage (four years ago after having stored it five years) the interior had been stolen. It was in separate boxes waiting for me to finish the body. So now I have no seats, carpets, door cards or interior trim. It was all leather and worth several grand. That took the steam out of me finishing the car. I'm retiring this spring so I hope to put the time (and money) into get it done. Well see if this happens or if I too end up selling and enjoying a different car. Though I could give it to a 20 something nephew has the skill to finish it. He is not yet shown interest in something like that, he's more into mid-80s pick-up trucks. But tastes change. Good luck with the paring down of projects. Life gets shorter and we all have to decide what we want to spend our time doing. Driving a Bugeye is a lot more fun to most people than restoring a car. On 10/14/2022 9:10 AM, Jim Ryan wrote: > Sorry, fat fingered that last email. > > What I was going to say was how similar your story is to mine. I > bought a BJ 7 in 1974, never really fully restored it as I wanted to, > and neither of my son's wanted it. So I ended up selling it for what I > could get about four years ago and picked up a little Bugeye driver. I > still have it and in some ways enjoying it more than the big Healy. > > Anyway, what part of New Hampshire are you in? I'm on the Seacoast. > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 9:06 AM Jim Ryan wrote: > > Hey Kent, > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM Kent McLean > wrote: > > I've owned my 1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with > the intention of restoring it, but life has gotten in the way > and it is still waiting for my attention. It is with a heavy > heart that I've resigned myself to passing along the dream.? > Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, and I'll give you the > details. First detail: it is located in New Hampshire, USA. > The list has first dibs; if it doesn't sell here, it goes to eBay. > > Kent McLean > '56 100 and '60 Bugeye > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cgmoog at optonline.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Craig Coopercraiginchico at gmail.com On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 01:55:10 PM PDT, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote: Send Healeys mailing list submissions to ??? healeys at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? healeys-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? healeys-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: Speedos... no not that kind, (r3m1g4 at gmail.com) ? 2. Re: Tightening bolts (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) ? 3. It's time to let it go (Kent McLean) >>Locating the O-rings might be a problem. ? McMaster-Carr (https://www.mcmaster.com/) has a broad selection of O-rings, including square cross sections. ? Mike Garvey 1967 BJ8/38046 Swampscott, MA ? Thanks for the replies. Coppaslip wins the day. Simon ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: 10 October 2022 12:30 To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Tightening bolts ? I had to loosen the bolts attaching the hinges on my BT7 the other day. 6 of them turned quite easily after some fairly hefty initial work. One needs a couple of whacks with an impact driver to get it started and one was just plain loose. So, now I want to tighten them up. Plainly, I want to be able to undo them again at some time or other?. Does the team think that something like Coppaslip (or whatever it?s called) is a good idea. Half of me says, ?Use it. You?ll be able to tighten them up that little bit more while still being able to undo them later?. And the other half says, ?Don?t use it. It will enable the bolts to loosen themselves off.? Which half of me is right??? Thanks, Simon I've owned my 1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the = intention of restoring it, but life has gotten in the way and it is = still waiting for my attention. It is with a heavy heart that I've = resigned myself to passing along the dream.? Contact me off-list, = subject line BN2, and I'll give you the details. First detail: it is = located in New Hampshire, USA. The list has first dibs; if it doesn't = sell here, it goes to eBay. Kent McLean '56 100 and '60 Bugeye _______________________________________________ Healeys mailing list Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys archives:? http://autox.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fredwescoe at gmail.com Fri Oct 14 12:24:54 2022 From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 14:24:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Turn Signals Message-ID: Listers, I am at a complete loss for ideas. A number of years ago, I converted all lights in my car to LED bulbs, headlights, dash lights, brake and turn signals. Everything worked perfectly until a week ago. For the past week, I have been struggling with my turn signals. When I turn the turn signal on, either left or right, the turn signals light up but do not blink. I have changed the flasher relay and the flasher unit. I have checked all of the connections from the steering column. I don't know what else to look for. No joy! What am I missing? I am stumped. What does the collective wisdom of the list say? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Fri Oct 14 13:26:58 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:26:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sheet metal suppliers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have purchased sheet metal parts from Ah Spares, A Head for Healeys and Kilmartin and would rate Kilmartin as the best one. Harold On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 10:27 AM S and T Miller wrote: > I have always been satisfied with sheet metal from both British car > specialists and AHspares. There are a few things I'd like to order the are > only currently offered by Ahead4healeys. It appears their sheet metal is > made by their own (owned) company shapecraft. I have zero experience with > them. I'd like to get some thoughts on quality? Emailing off list is > perfectly fine if preferred. > TIA. > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From engl at accesscomm.ca Fri Oct 14 18:24:04 2022 From: engl at accesscomm.ca (Engl) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 18:24:04 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Turn Signals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <958158A1-4A10-46F7-94C8-BF61111D6303@accesscomm.ca> Fred I?ve taken a good look at the BJ8 electrical system around the signal system with the object of converting to LEDs eventually. As the signal light flashers ground through the signal lights, there has to be something to provide a higher resistance than pure LED?s. A couple of questions: Do you have ballast resistors on any of the signal light LED?s? Do you have an electronic flasher? The ones I mean have a separate ground wire. An easy thing to try is to substitute regular incandescent bulbs in, say, both rear signal lights and see if that helps. Bob England > On Oct 14, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Fred Wescoe wrote: > > ? > Listers, > > I am at a complete loss for ideas. A number of years ago, I converted all lights in my car to LED bulbs, headlights, dash lights, brake and turn signals. Everything worked perfectly until a week ago. > > For the past week, I have been struggling with my turn signals. When I turn the turn signal on, either left or right, the turn signals light up but do not blink. I have changed the flasher relay and the flasher unit. I have checked all of the connections from the steering column. I don't know what else to look for. > > No joy! What am I missing? I am stumped. > > What does the collective wisdom of the list say? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl at accesscomm.ca > From engl at accesscomm.ca Fri Oct 14 18:24:04 2022 From: engl at accesscomm.ca (Engl) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 18:24:04 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Turn Signals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <958158A1-4A10-46F7-94C8-BF61111D6303@accesscomm.ca> Fred I?ve taken a good look at the BJ8 electrical system around the signal system with the object of converting to LEDs eventually. As the signal light flashers ground through the signal lights, there has to be something to provide a higher resistance than pure LED?s. A couple of questions: Do you have ballast resistors on any of the signal light LED?s? Do you have an electronic flasher? The ones I mean have a separate ground wire. An easy thing to try is to substitute regular incandescent bulbs in, say, both rear signal lights and see if that helps. Bob England > On Oct 14, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Fred Wescoe wrote: > > ? > Listers, > > I am at a complete loss for ideas. A number of years ago, I converted all lights in my car to LED bulbs, headlights, dash lights, brake and turn signals. Everything worked perfectly until a week ago. > > For the past week, I have been struggling with my turn signals. When I turn the turn signal on, either left or right, the turn signals light up but do not blink. I have changed the flasher relay and the flasher unit. I have checked all of the connections from the steering column. I don't know what else to look for. > > No joy! What am I missing? I am stumped. > > What does the collective wisdom of the list say? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl at accesscomm.ca > From engl at accesscomm.ca Fri Oct 14 18:24:04 2022 From: engl at accesscomm.ca (Engl) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 18:24:04 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Turn Signals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <958158A1-4A10-46F7-94C8-BF61111D6303@accesscomm.ca> Fred I?ve taken a good look at the BJ8 electrical system around the signal system with the object of converting to LEDs eventually. As the signal light flashers ground through the signal lights, there has to be something to provide a higher resistance than pure LED?s. A couple of questions: Do you have ballast resistors on any of the signal light LED?s? Do you have an electronic flasher? The ones I mean have a separate ground wire. An easy thing to try is to substitute regular incandescent bulbs in, say, both rear signal lights and see if that helps. Bob England > On Oct 14, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Fred Wescoe wrote: > > ? > Listers, > > I am at a complete loss for ideas. A number of years ago, I converted all lights in my car to LED bulbs, headlights, dash lights, brake and turn signals. Everything worked perfectly until a week ago. > > For the past week, I have been struggling with my turn signals. When I turn the turn signal on, either left or right, the turn signals light up but do not blink. I have changed the flasher relay and the flasher unit. I have checked all of the connections from the steering column. I don't know what else to look for. > > No joy! What am I missing? I am stumped. > > What does the collective wisdom of the list say? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl at accesscomm.ca > From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Oct 14 22:11:37 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:11:37 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Anti-Seize Redux was Re: Tightening bolts In-Reply-To: <759fc6e0-f8d3-5214-43dc-ae4ca1aefe4c@comcast.net> References: <000701d8dc9b$a32656b0$e9730410$@alexarevel.plus.com> <026001d8dca0$64735df0$2d5a19d0$@sympatico.ca> <759fc6e0-f8d3-5214-43dc-ae4ca1aefe4c@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3af59602-7573-16dd-f80a-90316e5ae5ab@comcast.net> In case we haven't beaten this to death: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj-kmIbSQvk On 10/10/2022 9:28 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > It's not, or shouldn't be, friction on the threads that holds a bolted > joint together; it's the loaded tension of the stretched bolt. For any > bolted joint potentially exposed to moisture, with a few exceptions*, > anti-seize is appropriate. Common (cheap) anti-seize, which uses > ground ceramics, is OK for non-high-temp applications; copper-based is > better, and nickel-based is best for high-temp applications (ex. EGR > valves, spark plugs, etc.). > > Like Mirek, and after much thought, I've taken to carefully putting a > bit of A-S on brake fitting threads. Maybe it's newer (lack of) > quality fittings and cylinders, but in the brake work I've done > recently the fittings haven't screwed-in as easily as I think they > should, and we've all probably rounded the 'nut' on brake fittings > that have gotten corrosion-welded in place (requiring cutting and > replacing the line and possibly the cylinder). Note brake fluid > shouldn't ever come in contact with the A-S, if the BF is getting past > its seal that has to be addressed properly. > > Fasterner 'science' is fascinating > > Explained well here: > https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=bolt+fastening+theory#kpvalbx=_IzREY-bKO43ZkPIP16m4qAE_44 > > More: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolted_joint > > * Where I don't use A-S, I may use threadlocker (usually blue, red for > inserts). I can't make up my mind on wheel studs; A-S for easy > removal, threadlocker for 'security' or nothing. Note both A-S and > threadlocker will affect bolt/stud tension for a given torque value. > > > > On 10/10/2022 5:04 AM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: >> >> Hi Simon, I often use an anti-seize paste on threads and I have never >> had a fastener loosen off and it definitely aids removal later.? For >> example, One common component to seize is the capillary tube where it >> goes through the nut on the temperature sensor.? For decades I have >> coated the tube where it passes through the nut, ?as well as the >> thread, and it makes removal of that nasty little thing so much >> easier.? Mind you, it is a tapered pipe thread and they tend to stay >> tight.? Another instance is brake line fittings; I slide the fitting >> back, lightly coat the brake line and then slide the fitting up to >> the flare, and coat the threads on the fitting, taking care not to >> get any into the hydraulic circuit.? I have never broken a brake line >> from it seizing in the nut after doing this. I use ?Copper Anti >> Seize? made by Permatex. >> >> Cheers, Mirek >> >> *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Simon >> Lachlan via Healeys >> *Sent:* October 10, 2022 7:30 AM >> *To:* 'Healeys' >> *Subject:* [Healeys] Tightening bolts >> >> I had to loosen the bolts attaching the hinges on my BT7 the other >> day. 6 of them turned quite easily after some fairly hefty initial >> work. One needs a couple of whacks with an impact driver to get it >> started and one was just plain loose. >> >> So, now I want to tighten them up. Plainly, I want to be able to undo >> them again at some time or other?. >> >> Does the team think that something like Coppaslip (or whatever it?s >> called) is a good idea. Half of me says, ?Use it. You?ll be able to >> tighten them up that little bit more while still being able to undo >> them later?. >> >> And the other half says, ?Don?t use it. It will enable the bolts to >> loosen themselves off.? >> >> Which half of me is right??? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Simon >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Sat Oct 15 06:36:57 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:36:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] It's time to let it go In-Reply-To: <842b6e6c-3f63-fe92-8524-eab2360d2b0b@optonline.net> References: <3EE45217-2358-4888-AF5C-EDC44142D3B3@comcast.net> <842b6e6c-3f63-fe92-8524-eab2360d2b0b@optonline.net> Message-ID: Speaking of themes... That BJ 7 I bought in 1974 was stolen a week after I got it, no insurance.3 months later I had moved and was getting ready to go look at an MGB for sale when I thought I would give the Boston police one more call. They said they were glad to hear from me because they found the car a month ago, but because I had moved they had no way to get ahold of me. So I took a bus and hitched a ride out to Groton Massachusetts where I found it sitting at a gas station. Funny thing was, it was also full of camping equipment, that wasn't there when it got stolen. Everything was in the car my tools, nick-nacks, the only thing that was damaged was the trunk lock and the ignition. I guess they would just turn the battery off to stop it, then turn it on to start it up. On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 12:02 PM Christopher Moog via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > What is this a running theme. I purchased a BJ7 in the mid 1990s. Started > restoring. Moved several times. When I retrieved it from a rental garage > (four years ago after having stored it five years) the interior had been > stolen. It was in separate boxes waiting for me to finish the body. So now > I have no seats, carpets, door cards or interior trim. It was all leather > and worth several grand. That took the steam out of me finishing the car. > > I'm retiring this spring so I hope to put the time (and money) into get it > done. Well see if this happens or if I too end up selling and enjoying a > different car. Though I could give it to a 20 something nephew has the > skill to finish it. He is not yet shown interest in something like that, > he's more into mid-80s pick-up trucks. But tastes change. > > Good luck with the paring down of projects. Life gets shorter and we all > have to decide what we want to spend our time doing. Driving a Bugeye is a > lot more fun to most people than restoring a car. > > On 10/14/2022 9:10 AM, Jim Ryan wrote: > > Sorry, fat fingered that last email. > > What I was going to say was how similar your story is to mine. I bought a > BJ 7 in 1974, never really fully restored it as I wanted to, and neither of > my son's wanted it. So I ended up selling it for what I could get about > four years ago and picked up a little Bugeye driver. I still have it and in > some ways enjoying it more than the big Healy. > > Anyway, what part of New Hampshire are you in? I'm on the Seacoast. > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 9:06 AM Jim Ryan wrote: > >> Hey Kent, >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM Kent McLean wrote: >> >>> I've owned my 1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the >>> intention of restoring it, but life has gotten in the way and it is still >>> waiting for my attention. It is with a heavy heart that I've resigned >>> myself to passing along the dream. Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, >>> and I'll give you the details. First detail: it is located in New >>> Hampshire, USA. The list has first dibs; if it doesn't sell here, it goes >>> to eBay. >>> >>> Kent McLean >>> '56 100 and '60 Bugeye >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cgmoog at optonline.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So I took a bus and hitched a ride out to Groton Massachusetts where I found it sitting at a gas station. Funny thing was, it was also full of camping equipment, that wasn't there when it got stolen. Everything was in the car my tools, nick-nacks, the only thing that was damaged was the trunk lock and the ignition. I guess they would just turn the battery off to stop it, then turn it on to start it up. On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 12:02 PM Christopher Moog via Healeys > wrote: What is this a running theme. I purchased a BJ7 in the mid 1990s. Started restoring. Moved several times. When I retrieved it from a rental garage (four years ago after having stored it five years) the interior had been stolen. It was in separate boxes waiting for me to finish the body. So now I have no seats, carpets, door cards or interior trim. It was all leather and worth several grand. That took the steam out of me finishing the car. I'm retiring this spring so I hope to put the time (and money) into get it done. Well see if this happens or if I too end up selling and enjoying a different car. Though I could give it to a 20 something nephew has the skill to finish it. He is not yet shown interest in something like that, he's more into mid-80s pick-up trucks. But tastes change. Good luck with the paring down of projects. Life gets shorter and we all have to decide what we want to spend our time doing. Driving a Bugeye is a lot more fun to most people than restoring a car. On 10/14/2022 9:10 AM, Jim Ryan wrote: Sorry, fat fingered that last email. What I was going to say was how similar your story is to mine. I bought a BJ 7 in 1974, never really fully restored it as I wanted to, and neither of my son's wanted it. So I ended up selling it for what I could get about four years ago and picked up a little Bugeye driver. I still have it and in some ways enjoying it more than the big Healy. Anyway, what part of New Hampshire are you in? I'm on the Seacoast. On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 9:06 AM Jim Ryan > wrote: Hey Kent, On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM Kent McLean > wrote: I've owned my 1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the intention of restoring it, but life has gotten in the way and it is still waiting for my attention. It is with a heavy heart that I've resigned myself to passing along the dream. Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, and I'll give you the details. First detail: it is located in New Hampshire, USA. The list has first dibs; if it doesn't sell here, it goes to eBay. 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URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 10:16:38 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 09:16:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] It's time to let it go In-Reply-To: References: <3EE45217-2358-4888-AF5C-EDC44142D3B3@comcast.net> <842b6e6c-3f63-fe92-8524-eab2360d2b0b@optonline.net> Message-ID: Years ago a friends corvair convertible was stolen. When he got it back it had been detailed, the top was fixed and it had a full tank of gas... On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 6:11 AM Jim Ryan via Healeys wrote: > Speaking of themes... > > That BJ 7 I bought in 1974 was stolen a week after I got it, no > insurance.3 months later I had moved and was getting ready to go look at an > MGB for sale when I thought I would give the Boston police one more call. > They said they were glad to hear from me because they found the car a month > ago, but because I had moved they had no way to get ahold of me. So I took > a bus and hitched a ride out to Groton Massachusetts where I found it > sitting at a gas station. Funny thing was, it was also full of camping > equipment, that wasn't there when it got stolen. Everything was in the car > my tools, nick-nacks, the only thing that was damaged was the trunk lock > and the ignition. I guess they would just turn the battery off to stop it, > then turn it on to start it up. > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 12:02 PM Christopher Moog via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> What is this a running theme. I purchased a BJ7 in the mid 1990s. Started >> restoring. Moved several times. When I retrieved it from a rental garage >> (four years ago after having stored it five years) the interior had been >> stolen. It was in separate boxes waiting for me to finish the body. So now >> I have no seats, carpets, door cards or interior trim. It was all leather >> and worth several grand. That took the steam out of me finishing the car. >> >> I'm retiring this spring so I hope to put the time (and money) into get >> it done. Well see if this happens or if I too end up selling and enjoying a >> different car. Though I could give it to a 20 something nephew has the >> skill to finish it. He is not yet shown interest in something like that, >> he's more into mid-80s pick-up trucks. But tastes change. >> >> Good luck with the paring down of projects. Life gets shorter and we all >> have to decide what we want to spend our time doing. Driving a Bugeye is a >> lot more fun to most people than restoring a car. >> >> On 10/14/2022 9:10 AM, Jim Ryan wrote: >> >> Sorry, fat fingered that last email. >> >> What I was going to say was how similar your story is to mine. I bought a >> BJ 7 in 1974, never really fully restored it as I wanted to, and neither of >> my son's wanted it. So I ended up selling it for what I could get about >> four years ago and picked up a little Bugeye driver. I still have it and in >> some ways enjoying it more than the big Healy. >> >> Anyway, what part of New Hampshire are you in? I'm on the Seacoast. >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 9:06 AM Jim Ryan wrote: >> >>> Hey Kent, >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM Kent McLean >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've owned my 1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the >>>> intention of restoring it, but life has gotten in the way and it is still >>>> waiting for my attention. It is with a heavy heart that I've resigned >>>> myself to passing along the dream. Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, >>>> and I'll give you the details. First detail: it is located in New >>>> Hampshire, USA. The list has first dibs; if it doesn't sell here, it goes >>>> to eBay. >>>> >>>> Kent McLean >>>> '56 100 and '60 Bugeye >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cgmoog at optonline.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Sat Oct 15 11:05:23 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 13:05:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] It's time to let it go In-Reply-To: References: <3EE45217-2358-4888-AF5C-EDC44142D3B3@comcast.net> <842b6e6c-3f63-fe92-8524-eab2360d2b0b@optonline.net> Message-ID: <00f001d8e0b8$508be7a0$f1a3b6e0$@sympatico.ca> I bought my BT7 48 years ago from a delightful Irishman. He had bought it new. Unfortunately died a few years ago but when he was still around I would visit him periodically and over a glass of sherry (or two) he would recall stories about the car while in his ownership. One recollection was that while working late one evening in his Toronto office (he was an engineer), he heard a Healey start up and to his horror watched out the window as someone tore out of the parking lot in his car. He feared the worst as there had been a rash of sports car thefts and the kids who were stealing were joyriding for a few hours then driving them into Lake Ontario. The car was found by the police later that night on Lakeshore Road ? out of gas. The car probably dodged a bullet that night. From: Healeys On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: October 15, 2022 12:17 PM To: Jim Ryan Cc: List Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's time to let it go Years ago a friends corvair convertible was stolen. When he got it back it had been detailed, the top was fixed and it had a full tank of gas... On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 6:11 AM Jim Ryan via Healeys wrote: Speaking of themes... That BJ 7 I bought in 1974 was stolen a week after I got it, no insurance.3 months later I had moved and was getting ready to go look at an MGB for sale when I thought I would give the Boston police one more call. They said they were glad to hear from me because they found the car a month ago, but because I had moved they had no way to get ahold of me. So I took a bus and hitched a ride out to Groton Massachusetts where I found it sitting at a gas station. Funny thing was, it was also full of camping equipment, that wasn't there when it got stolen. Everything was in the car my tools, nick-nacks, the only thing that was damaged was the trunk lock and the ignition. I guess they would just turn the battery off to stop it, then turn it on to start it up. On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 12:02 PM Christopher Moog via Healeys > wrote: What is this a running theme. I purchased a BJ7 in the mid 1990s. Started restoring. Moved several times. When I retrieved it from a rental garage (four years ago after having stored it five years) the interior had been stolen. It was in separate boxes waiting for me to finish the body. So now I have no seats, carpets, door cards or interior trim. It was all leather and worth several grand. That took the steam out of me finishing the car. I'm retiring this spring so I hope to put the time (and money) into get it done. Well see if this happens or if I too end up selling and enjoying a different car. Though I could give it to a 20 something nephew has the skill to finish it. He is not yet shown interest in something like that, he's more into mid-80s pick-up trucks. But tastes change. Good luck with the paring down of projects. Life gets shorter and we all have to decide what we want to spend our time doing. Driving a Bugeye is a lot more fun to most people than restoring a car. On 10/14/2022 9:10 AM, Jim Ryan wrote: Sorry, fat fingered that last email. What I was going to say was how similar your story is to mine. I bought a BJ 7 in 1974, never really fully restored it as I wanted to, and neither of my son's wanted it. So I ended up selling it for what I could get about four years ago and picked up a little Bugeye driver. I still have it and in some ways enjoying it more than the big Healy. Anyway, what part of New Hampshire are you in? I'm on the Seacoast. On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 9:06 AM Jim Ryan > wrote: Hey Kent, On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM Kent McLean > wrote: I've owned my 1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the intention of restoring it, but life has gotten in the way and it is still waiting for my attention. It is with a heavy heart that I've resigned myself to passing along the dream. Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, and I'll give you the details. First detail: it is located in New Hampshire, USA. The list has first dibs; if it doesn't sell here, it goes to eBay. 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URL: From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Oct 15 12:20:05 2022 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 11:20:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?massive_oil_leak?= Message-ID: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any other places to look? From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Oct 15 12:38:36 2022 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 14:38:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] It's time to let it go In-Reply-To: <00f001d8e0b8$508be7a0$f1a3b6e0$@sympatico.ca> References: <3EE45217-2358-4888-AF5C-EDC44142D3B3@comcast.net> <842b6e6c-3f63-fe92-8524-eab2360d2b0b@optonline.net> <00f001d8e0b8$508be7a0$f1a3b6e0$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <01a501d8e0c5$569c90b0$03d5b210$@rr.com> The original owner of my BJ8 told me the car was stolen from him the same day he bought it new. Police found it early the next morning, out of gas and the perps took his portable radio, but otherwise the car was fine. I have the newspaper article about the theft. In 2007, the owner of a BJ8 asked If the BJ8 Registry had any record of 40136. It was stolen from him in 1970 and at the time was not insured. I did not have any record of it, but added it to the registry with the info he provided. I saw it come up for sale by a dealer in 2012 and notified him. He was able to recover it, 42 years after it was stolen. Most owners of Healeys are interested in the previous ownership history of their cars, but there is no other place except the BJ8 Registry (for BJ8s, of course) where the continuous ownership record can be documented and preserved for those who come after us. It makes it possible for one owner of a car to contact the other owners if they wish to do so. Anyone with a BJ8 who has not allowed me to include it in the registry should do so. You never know. The Registry currently documents more than 55% of total BJ8 production (9,767 of 17,712 cars built). Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of m.g.sharp--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 1:05 PM To: 'i erbs'; 'Jim Ryan' Cc: 'List Healey' Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's time to let it go I bought my BT7 48 years ago from a delightful Irishman. He had bought it new. Unfortunately died a few years ago but when he was still around I would visit him periodically and over a glass of sherry (or two) he would recall stories about the car while in his ownership. One recollection was that while working late one evening in his Toronto office (he was an engineer), he heard a Healey start up and to his horror watched out the window as someone tore out of the parking lot in his car. He feared the worst as there had been a rash of sports car thefts and the kids who were stealing were joyriding for a few hours then driving them into Lake Ontario. The car was found by the police later that night on Lakeshore Road ? out of gas. The car probably dodged a bullet that night. From: Healeys On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: October 15, 2022 12:17 PM To: Jim Ryan Cc: List Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's time to let it go Years ago a friends corvair convertible was stolen. When he got it back it had been detailed, the top was fixed and it had a full tank of gas... On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 6:11 AM Jim Ryan via Healeys wrote: Speaking of themes... That BJ 7 I bought in 1974 was stolen a week after I got it, no insurance.3 months later I had moved and was getting ready to go look at an MGB for sale when I thought I would give the Boston police one more call. They said they were glad to hear from me because they found the car a month ago, but because I had moved they had no way to get ahold of me. So I took a bus and hitched a ride out to Groton Massachusetts where I found it sitting at a gas station. Funny thing was, it was also full of camping equipment, that wasn't there when it got stolen. Everything was in the car my tools, nick-nacks, the only thing that was damaged was the trunk lock and the ignition. I guess they would just turn the battery off to stop it, then turn it on to start it up. On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 12:02 PM Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote: What is this a running theme. I purchased a BJ7 in the mid 1990s. Started restoring. Moved several times. When I retrieved it from a rental garage (four years ago after having stored it five years) the interior had been stolen. It was in separate boxes waiting for me to finish the body. So now I have no seats, carpets, door cards or interior trim. It was all leather and worth several grand. That took the steam out of me finishing the car. I'm retiring this spring so I hope to put the time (and money) into get it done. Well see if this happens or if I too end up selling and enjoying a different car. Though I could give it to a 20 something nephew has the skill to finish it. He is not yet shown interest in something like that, he's more into mid-80s pick-up trucks. But tastes change. Good luck with the paring down of projects. Life gets shorter and we all have to decide what we want to spend our time doing. Driving a Bugeye is a lot more fun to most people than restoring a car. On 10/14/2022 9:10 AM, Jim Ryan wrote: Sorry, fat fingered that last email. What I was going to say was how similar your story is to mine. I bought a BJ 7 in 1974, never really fully restored it as I wanted to, and neither of my son's wanted it. So I ended up selling it for what I could get about four years ago and picked up a little Bugeye driver. I still have it and in some ways enjoying it more than the big Healy. Anyway, what part of New Hampshire are you in? I'm on the Seacoast. On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 9:06 AM Jim Ryan wrote: Hey Kent, On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM Kent McLean wrote: I've owned my 1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the intention of restoring it, but life has gotten in the way and it is still waiting for my attention. It is with a heavy heart that I've resigned myself to passing along the dream. Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, and I'll give you the details. First detail: it is located in New Hampshire, USA. The list has first dibs; if it doesn't sell here, it goes to eBay. Kent McLean '56 100 and '60 Bugeye _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cgmoog at optonline.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sat Oct 15 16:14:34 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:14:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] It's time to let it go In-Reply-To: <01a501d8e0c5$569c90b0$03d5b210$@rr.com> References: <01a501d8e0c5$569c90b0$03d5b210$@rr.com> Message-ID: <0180475F-AF9D-4A88-ABB4-2B87318A2A4F@aol.com> Listers We have 57 years under our seatbelts in the red car, our 1955 BN2. As far as I know never stolen or badly abused during the first 10 years of its existence. But must say the body required repair when it was purchased. The factory didn?t spend a lot of money on paint back then. IN 1965 it was really a big deal to fork out $275 US for a 10 year old car. Had a lot of fun over the years and it has enabled a lot of great long lasting friendships. Memories!!!! Perry Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2022, at 4:54 PM, BJ8Healeys via Healeys wrote: > > ? > The original owner of my BJ8 told me the car was stolen from him the same day he bought it new. Police found it early the next morning, out of gas and the perps took his portable radio, but otherwise the car was fine. I have the newspaper article about the theft. > > In 2007, the owner of a BJ8 asked If the BJ8 Registry had any record of 40136. It was stolen from him in 1970 and at the time was not insured. I did not have any record of it, but added it to the registry with the info he provided. I saw it come up for sale by a dealer in 2012 and notified him. He was able to recover it, 42 years after it was stolen. > Most owners of Healeys are interested in the previous ownership history of their cars, but there is no other place except the BJ8 Registry (for BJ8s, of course) where the continuous ownership record can be documented and preserved for those who come after us. It makes it possible for one owner of a car to contact the other owners if they wish to do so. > Anyone with a BJ8 who has not allowed me to include it in the registry should do so. You never know. The Registry currently documents more than 55% of total BJ8 production (9,767 of 17,712 cars built). > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > AHCA Delegate at Large > Havelock, NC > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of m.g.sharp--- via Healeys > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 1:05 PM > To: 'i erbs'; 'Jim Ryan' > Cc: 'List Healey' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's time to let it go > > I bought my BT7 48 years ago from a delightful Irishman. He had bought it new. Unfortunately died a few years ago but when he was still around I would visit him periodically and over a glass of sherry (or two) he would recall stories about the car while in his ownership. One recollection was that while working late one evening in his Toronto office (he was an engineer), he heard a Healey start up and to his horror watched out the window as someone tore out of the parking lot in his car. He feared the worst as there had been a rash of sports car thefts and the kids who were stealing were joyriding for a few hours then driving them into Lake Ontario. > > The car was found by the police later that night on Lakeshore Road ? out of gas. The car probably dodged a bullet that night. > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of i erbs > Sent: October 15, 2022 12:17 PM > To: Jim Ryan > Cc: List Healey > Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's time to let it go > > Years ago a friends corvair convertible was stolen. When he got it back it had been detailed, the top was fixed and it had a full tank of gas... > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 6:11 AM Jim Ryan via Healeys wrote: > Speaking of themes... > > That BJ 7 I bought in 1974 was stolen a week after I got it, no insurance.3 months later I had moved and was getting ready to go look at an MGB for sale when I thought I would give the Boston police one more call. They said they were glad to hear from me because they found the car a month ago, but because I had moved they had no way to get ahold of me. So I took a bus and hitched a ride out to Groton Massachusetts where I found it sitting at a gas station. Funny thing was, it was also full of camping equipment, that wasn't there when it got stolen. Everything was in the car my tools, nick-nacks, the only thing that was damaged was the trunk lock and the ignition. I guess they would just turn the battery off to stop it, then turn it on to start it up. > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 12:02 PM Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote: > What is this a running theme. I purchased a BJ7 in the mid 1990s. Started restoring. Moved several times. When I retrieved it from a rental garage (four years ago after having stored it five years) the interior had been stolen. It was in separate boxes waiting for me to finish the body. So now I have no seats, carpets, door cards or interior trim. It was all leather and worth several grand. That took the steam out of me finishing the car. > > I'm retiring this spring so I hope to put the time (and money) into get it done. Well see if this happens or if I too end up selling and enjoying a different car. Though I could give it to a 20 something nephew has the skill to finish it. He is not yet shown interest in something like that, he's more into mid-80s pick-up trucks. But tastes change. > > Good luck with the paring down of projects. Life gets shorter and we all have to decide what we want to spend our time doing. Driving a Bugeye is a lot more fun to most people than restoring a car. > > On 10/14/2022 9:10 AM, Jim Ryan wrote: > Sorry, fat fingered that last email. > > What I was going to say was how similar your story is to mine. I bought a BJ 7 in 1974, never really fully restored it as I wanted to, and neither of my son's wanted it. So I ended up selling it for what I could get about four years ago and picked up a little Bugeye driver. I still have it and in some ways enjoying it more than the big Healy. > > Anyway, what part of New Hampshire are you in? I'm on the Seacoast. > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 9:06 AM Jim Ryan wrote: > Hey Kent, > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM Kent McLean wrote: > I've owned my 1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the intention of restoring it, but life has gotten in the way and it is still waiting for my attention. It is with a heavy heart that I've resigned myself to passing along the dream. Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, and I'll give you the details. First detail: it is located in New Hampshire, USA. The list has first dibs; if it doesn't sell here, it goes to eBay. > > Kent McLean > '56 100 and '60 Bugeye > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cgmoog at optonline.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.hutchings at rogers.com Sat Oct 15 16:29:18 2022 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:29:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Make sure the oil filter is sealed properly?the trail from a leaking filter can be misleading. Stephen, BJ8 > On Oct 15, 2022, at 2:20 PM, healeymanjim wrote: > > changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any other places to look? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Oct 15 16:59:27 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 15:59:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <951c94a2-f46c-7803-8f04-2baa575440a4@comcast.net> Stock 'seal' or aftermarket upgrade? On 10/15/2022 11:20 AM, healeymanjim wrote: > changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any other places to look? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > From emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk Sat Oct 15 18:07:02 2022 From: emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk (David Lodge) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 00:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Sheet metal suppliers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <696009780.752957.1665878822922@mail.yahoo.com> Some are much better than others but none are perfect matches to the original and ALL have needed fettling to a greater or lesser degree, in my experience. My particular bugbear are the narrow flanges that seem to be obligatory on all.? Having said all that, Kilmartin are quite good. On Friday, 14 October 2022 at 16:09:39 GMT-7, Harold Manifold wrote: I have purchased sheet metal parts from Ah Spares, A Head for Healeys and Kilmartin and would rate Kilmartin as the best one. Harold On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 10:27 AM S and T Miller wrote: I have always been satisfied with sheet metal from both British car specialists and AHspares. There are a few things I'd like to order the are only currently offered by Ahead4healeys.? It appears their sheet metal is made by their own (owned) company shapecraft. I have zero experience with them. I'd like to get some thoughts on quality? Emailing off list is perfectly fine if preferred.?TIA.? The Millers ? "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Sat Oct 15 18:51:34 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:51:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <951c94a2-f46c-7803-8f04-2baa575440a4@comcast.net> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <951c94a2-f46c-7803-8f04-2baa575440a4@comcast.net> Message-ID: Double check the drain plug. Try a new copper gasket and check the drain plug flange on the oil pan for burrs or nicks. Touch up with a file if required. If the engine is original there is no rear main seal to fail just the infamous archimedes screw and it is unlikely to fail catastrophically. Harold On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 5:26 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > Stock 'seal' or aftermarket upgrade? > > > On 10/15/2022 11:20 AM, healeymanjim wrote: > > changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed > lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more > of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out > bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. > assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any > other places to look? > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ab7vf at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 20:17:18 2022 From: ab7vf at yahoo.com (jim) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 02:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Turn Signals In-Reply-To: <958158A1-4A10-46F7-94C8-BF61111D6303@accesscomm.ca> References: <958158A1-4A10-46F7-94C8-BF61111D6303@accesscomm.ca> Message-ID: <453980356.1517808.1665886638872@mail.yahoo.com> . As the signal light flashers ground through the signal lights, there has to be something to provide a higher resistance than pure LED?s. > Are you SURE you mean "higher resistance than pure LED's???? Back in the old days signal flashers were composed of (among other things) with a "bi-metallic strip".? The purpose of said strip was to bend when heated by current flowing through an associated heating element and interrupt (flash) the bulbs.? If normal signal bulbs (1157 type) operated at nominal 2 amperes current flow, 2 in parallel (front and rear per side) flow 4 amps would flow through the flasher.?? A standard single junction LED can "light" with around 20 milliamperes of current.? High current LEDs or LEDs with associated ballast resistors are necessary to flow the MUCH higher current needed by the non-electronic flasher Jim _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From engl at accesscomm.ca Sat Oct 15 21:34:18 2022 From: engl at accesscomm.ca (Engl) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 21:34:18 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Turn Signals In-Reply-To: <453980356.1517808.1665886638872@mail.yahoo.com> References: <453980356.1517808.1665886638872@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <053F09D8-A597-4762-AF27-F2CEE677C66E@accesscomm.ca> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ah100tech at gmail.com Sun Oct 16 02:30:26 2022 From: ah100tech at gmail.com (john harper) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 09:30:26 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Turn Signals In-Reply-To: <053F09D8-A597-4762-AF27-F2CEE677C66E@accesscomm.ca> References: <453980356.1517808.1665886638872@mail.yahoo.com> <053F09D8-A597-4762-AF27-F2CEE677C66E@accesscomm.ca> Message-ID: Jim I fully agree with your description of an 'old' flasher unit but it was not a bi-metal strip but a wire under tension that extended and lost its tension when current went through it and cut off the current, similar to a bi-metal strip. The wire then cooled and shrank allowing the current to flow again. On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 04:55, Engl wrote: > Hi Jim > > You are 100% correct. I should have said lower resistance. > > V=IR and all that. > > Thanks. > > Bob England > > On Oct 15, 2022, at 8:17 PM, jim wrote: > > ? > > > . As the signal light flashers ground through the signal lights, there has > to be something to provide a higher resistance than pure LED?s. > > > > > Are you SURE you mean "higher resistance than pure LED's? > > Back in the old days signal flashers were composed of (among other things) > with a "bi-metallic strip". The purpose of said strip was to bend when > heated by current flowing through an associated heating element and > interrupt (flash) the bulbs. If normal signal bulbs (1157 type) operated > at nominal 2 amperes current flow, 2 in parallel (front and rear per side) > flow 4 amps would flow through the flasher. A standard single junction > LED can "light" with around 20 milliamperes of current. High current LEDs > or LEDs with associated ballast resistors are necessary to flow the MUCH > higher current needed by the non-electronic flasher > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sun Oct 16 03:13:51 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 10:13:51 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <001801d8e13f$9c422740$d4c675c0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Agreed. Anything to do with the oil filter can be very messy indeed. Done that! Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Stephen Hutchings via Healeys Sent: 15 October 2022 23:29 To: healeymanjim Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak Make sure the oil filter is sealed properly?the trail from a leaking filter can be misleading. Stephen, BJ8 From ryan at jimryan.com Sun Oct 16 13:21:48 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 15:21:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] It's time to let it go In-Reply-To: <0180475F-AF9D-4A88-ABB4-2B87318A2A4F@aol.com> References: <01a501d8e0c5$569c90b0$03d5b210$@rr.com> <0180475F-AF9D-4A88-ABB4-2B87318A2A4F@aol.com> Message-ID: Okay, last one, I promise. About 20 years ago I had a Toyota Celica convertible as a daily driver. I brought it into my mechanic at the time to have something done, I forget what. Anyway, a couple of days later he called me to tell me he had some bad news could I stop in. So I went on over and he proceeded to tell me how the car had an electrical fire in it due to something one of his mechanics had done. He promised me he would get the entire thing fixed, and in fact had sent it somewhere else to have the wiring replaced so I couldn't see it. He told me to rent a car and he would cover all the expenses. So this went on for quite some time. He would send me invoices from some other place, and other paperwork. He was extremely apologetic, and as I really like this guy I couldn't get angry. So finally the day comes when he calls me to tells me the car is ready. So my wife and I drive down in the rental car to pick it up but when we get there I go in the office and he says that we'll have to go around and go in the main garage door because something's blocking the entrance from the office. We walk around and he opens the door, and there's my car with a brand new paint job. Completely detailed with any and all body work repaired. It was now silver instead of black. The look on my face was priceless! The bride had cooked his whole thing up with him as a gift. The car had been in a body shop two blocks over the entire time it was gone. There was no fire. He had fabricated all the paperwork he sent me on his computer. I don't have the car anymore but luckily I still have the bride. For 42 years. On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 7:06 PM Perry Small via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Listers > We have 57 years under our seatbelts in the red car, our 1955 BN2. As far > as I know never stolen or badly abused during the first 10 years of its > existence. But must say the body required repair when it was purchased. The > factory didn?t spend a lot of money on paint back then. IN 1965 it was > really a big deal to fork out $275 US for a 10 year old car. Had a lot of > fun over the years and it has enabled a lot of great long lasting > friendships. > Memories!!!! > Perry > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 15, 2022, at 4:54 PM, BJ8Healeys via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > > The original owner of my BJ8 told me the car was stolen from him the same > day he bought it new. Police found it early the next morning, out of gas > and the perps took his portable radio, but otherwise the car was fine. I > have the newspaper article about the theft. > > > > In 2007, the owner of a BJ8 asked If the BJ8 Registry had any record of > 40136. It was stolen from him in 1970 and at the time was not insured. I > did not have any record of it, but added it to the registry with the info > he provided. I saw it come up for sale by a dealer in 2012 and notified > him. He was able to recover it, 42 years after it was stolen. > > Most owners of Healeys are interested in the previous ownership history of > their cars, but there is no other place except the BJ8 Registry (for BJ8s, > of course) where the continuous ownership record can be documented and > preserved for those who come after us. It makes it possible for one owner > of a car to contact the other owners if they wish to do so. > > Anyone with a BJ8 who has not allowed me to include it in the registry > should do so. You never know. The Registry currently documents more than > 55% of total BJ8 production (9,767 of 17,712 cars built). > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *m.g.sharp--- > via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2022 1:05 PM > *To:* 'i erbs'; 'Jim Ryan' > *Cc:* 'List Healey' > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] It's time to let it go > > > > I bought my BT7 48 years ago from a delightful Irishman. He had bought it > new. Unfortunately died a few years ago but when he was still around I > would visit him periodically and over a glass of sherry (or two) he would > recall stories about the car while in his ownership. One recollection was > that while working late one evening in his Toronto office (he was an > engineer), he heard a Healey start up and to his horror watched out the > window as someone tore out of the parking lot in his car. He feared the > worst as there had been a rash of sports car thefts and the kids who were > stealing were joyriding for a few hours then driving them into Lake Ontario. > > > > The car was found by the police later that night on Lakeshore Road ? out > of gas. The car probably dodged a bullet that night. > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *i erbs > *Sent:* October 15, 2022 12:17 PM > *To:* Jim Ryan > *Cc:* List Healey > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] It's time to let it go > > > > Years ago a friends corvair convertible was stolen. When he got it back it > had been detailed, the top was fixed and it had a full tank of gas... > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 6:11 AM Jim Ryan via Healeys > wrote: > > Speaking of themes... > > > > That BJ 7 I bought in 1974 was stolen a week after I got it, no > insurance.3 months later I had moved and was getting ready to go look at an > MGB for sale when I thought I would give the Boston police one more call. > They said they were glad to hear from me because they found the car a month > ago, but because I had moved they had no way to get ahold of me. So I took > a bus and hitched a ride out to Groton Massachusetts where I found it > sitting at a gas station. Funny thing was, it was also full of camping > equipment, that wasn't there when it got stolen. Everything was in the car > my tools, nick-nacks, the only thing that was damaged was the trunk lock > and the ignition. I guess they would just turn the battery off to stop it, > then turn it on to start it up. > > > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 12:02 PM Christopher Moog via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > What is this a running theme. I purchased a BJ7 in the mid 1990s. Started > restoring. Moved several times. When I retrieved it from a rental garage > (four years ago after having stored it five years) the interior had been > stolen. It was in separate boxes waiting for me to finish the body. So now > I have no seats, carpets, door cards or interior trim. It was all leather > and worth several grand. That took the steam out of me finishing the car. > > I'm retiring this spring so I hope to put the time (and money) into get it > done. Well see if this happens or if I too end up selling and enjoying a > different car. Though I could give it to a 20 something nephew has the > skill to finish it. He is not yet shown interest in something like that, > he's more into mid-80s pick-up trucks. But tastes change. > > Good luck with the paring down of projects. Life gets shorter and we all > have to decide what we want to spend our time doing. Driving a Bugeye is a > lot more fun to most people than restoring a car. > > On 10/14/2022 9:10 AM, Jim Ryan wrote: > > Sorry, fat fingered that last email. > > > > What I was going to say was how similar your story is to mine. I bought a > BJ 7 in 1974, never really fully restored it as I wanted to, and neither of > my son's wanted it. So I ended up selling it for what I could get about > four years ago and picked up a little Bugeye driver. I still have it and in > some ways enjoying it more than the big Healy. > > > > Anyway, what part of New Hampshire are you in? I'm on the Seacoast. > > > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 9:06 AM Jim Ryan wrote: > > Hey Kent, > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM Kent McLean wrote: > > I've owned my 1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the intention > of restoring it, but life has gotten in the way and it is still waiting for > my attention. It is with a heavy heart that I've resigned myself to passing > along the dream. Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, and I'll give you > the details. First detail: it is located in New Hampshire, USA. The list > has first dibs; if it doesn't sell here, it goes to eBay. > > Kent McLean > '56 100 and '60 Bugeye > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cgmoog at optonline.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am looking to purchase a Concours acceptable Derrington > wood steering wheel for my ?66 bj8. Per the Guidelines, it must have 3 > slotted spokes at 120* apart, 9-12 rivets attaching the wood to the alum > frame, alternate dark and light wood, 12 rivets holding wood to frame. I > tried all the ?usual? vendors, ebay and asked private parts supplies, all > to no avail. Can anyone provide with direction? Or has one he/she is > willing to sell? Thanks > > Alan Wasserman > alanwassermannc at gmail.com > 732-887-0742 > www.wassermanstudio.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roggrace at telus.net Sun Oct 16 21:18:25 2022 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:18:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] GB Oil Leak Message-ID: BJ8 with MT 90 oil in transmission. I am struggling with an oil leak from the drain plug on my transmission. The tapered thread plug, not the brass OD one. On my last attempt I carefully cleaned the plug and the case thread. Then used used that white Permatex thread sealant. Little improvement. Kept tightening with lot more torque with 16in breaker bar plus pipe. Some minor improvement. Fearing damage, now reluctant to do any more tightening. A colleague suggests that Permatex form a gasket aviation stuff - liquid sealant in a tin ... Is this a common issue - maybe a new plug ? Ideas please and your collective wisdom appreciated. rg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Oct 16 22:15:48 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 21:15:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] GB Oil Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The white teflon sealant usually works well enough if the the threads are well-matched. Teflon tape might be a little better but, usually, it isn't. This stuff works best for me in plumbing applications, should be OK. Go easy on the breaker bar, it's possible to crack the case; in fact, have a close look at it to check for cracking. On 10/16/2022 8:18 PM, Roger Grace wrote: > BJ8 with MT 90 oil in transmission. > I am struggling with an oil leak from the drain plug on my transmission. > The tapered thread plug, not the brass OD one. > On my last attempt I carefully cleaned the plug and the case thread. > Then used used that white Permatex thread sealant. > Little improvement. > Kept tightening with lot more torque with 16in breaker bar plus pipe. > Some minor improvement. > Fearing damage, now reluctant to do any more tightening. > A colleague suggests that Permatex form a gasket aviation stuff - > liquid sealant in a tin ... > Is this a common issue - maybe a new plug ? > Ideas please and your collective wisdom appreciated. > rg > > > > From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Oct 16 22:38:57 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 21:38:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] GB Oil Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: oops .. forgot the link https://www.amazon.com/Rectorseal-25551-8-Ounce-Thread-Sealant/dp/B000H5MW0O?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER On 10/16/2022 9:15 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > The white teflon sealant usually works well enough if the the threads > are well-matched. Teflon tape might be a little better but, usually, > it isn't. This stuff works best for me in plumbing applications, > should be OK. > > Go easy on the breaker bar, it's possible to crack the case; in fact, > have a close look at it to check for cracking. > > > On 10/16/2022 8:18 PM, Roger Grace wrote: >> BJ8 with MT 90 oil in transmission. >> I am struggling with an oil leak from the drain plug on my transmission. >> The tapered thread plug, not the brass OD one. >> On my last attempt I carefully cleaned the plug and the case thread. >> Then used used that white Permatex thread sealant. >> Little improvement. >> Kept tightening with lot more torque with 16in breaker bar plus pipe. >> Some minor improvement. >> Fearing damage, now reluctant to do any more tightening. >> A colleague suggests that Permatex form a gasket aviation stuff - >> liquid sealant in a tin ... >> Is this a common issue - maybe a new plug ? >> Ideas please and your collective wisdom appreciated. >> rg >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > From manifold at telus.net Mon Oct 17 09:29:46 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 08:29:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fitting the Windsheild Message-ID: I am just about to refit the windshield on my Mk1 BT7. The car has undergone a full restoration that included repairs to both A pillars. I am concerned about stressing the windshield and cracking it. What is the best installation technique? Pillar on windshield and then onto car or pillars on the car then the windshield? Should shims be used between the pillars and the body? Any tips and lessons learned are appreciated. Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 17 11:42:56 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 13:42:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fitting the Windsheild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004f01d8e24f$e4cacf60$ae606e20$@sympatico.ca> Harold, I am embarrassed that I can?t recall how I did it when I re-sealed the windshield 14 years ago, but putting the pillars and windshield together first is what I dimly recall. Regardless, I DO recall there being rectangular alloy shims in between the body structure and the posts. I recall coating them with something ? I think I used anti-seize compound (although I am sure there is better product), to slow down any reaction between the alloy shims and any steel they connect with. Cheers, Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of Harold Manifold Sent: October 17, 2022 11:30 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Fitting the Windsheild I am just about to refit the windshield on my Mk1 BT7. The car has undergone a full restoration that included repairs to both A pillars. I am concerned about stressing the windshield and cracking it. What is the best installation technique? Pillar on windshield and then onto car or pillars on the car then the windshield? Should shims be used between the pillars and the body? Any tips and lessons learned are appreciated. Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From drtommitch at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 14:04:13 2022 From: drtommitch at gmail.com (Tom Mitchell) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 16:04:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] GB Oil Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Roger, "A colleague suggests that Permatex form a gasket aviation stuff - liquid sealant in a tin .." If you use this you may not be able to get it loose again. A friend used it on his oil pan, when we went to remove it, it was brutal. no leaks though. There is also a Boiler (heat) high temp pressure sealant. Tom Mitchell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 11:31 PM Roger Grace wrote: > BJ8 with MT 90 oil in transmission. > I am struggling with an oil leak from the drain plug on my transmission. > The tapered thread plug, not the brass OD one. > On my last attempt I carefully cleaned the plug and the case thread. > Then used used that white Permatex thread sealant. > Little improvement. > Kept tightening with lot more torque with 16in breaker bar plus pipe. > Some minor improvement. > Fearing damage, now reluctant to do any more tightening. > A colleague suggests that Permatex form a gasket aviation stuff - liquid > sealant in a tin ... > Is this a common issue - maybe a new plug ? > Ideas please and your collective wisdom appreciated. > rg > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drtommitch at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Starts, runs poorly, black smoke smells like?it's too rich but after installing?lean needles and leaning the cards as far as the nut will turn - no joy. TIA for any leads... Burt -- Burt Weiner63 BJ7bighealey63 at gmail.com_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rct2bnc at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think I used anti-seize compound (although I am sure there is better product), to slow down any reaction between the alloy shims and any steel they connect with. > > Cheers, Mirek > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Harold Manifold > Sent: October 17, 2022 11:30 AM > To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Fitting the Windsheild > > I am just about to refit the windshield on my Mk1 BT7. The car has undergone a full restoration that included repairs to both A pillars. I am concerned about stressing the windshield and cracking it. What is the best installation technique? > > Pillar on windshield and then onto car or pillars on the car then the windshield? Should shims be used between the pillars and the body? > > Any tips and lessons learned are appreciated. > > Harold > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Mon Oct 17 15:48:42 2022 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (greylinn at ozemail.com.au) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 07:48:42 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] GB Oil Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Blue Hylomar ? Rolls Royce sealant. Doesn?t harden ? best stuff! Peter Linn Brisbane BN1 V6 MG TC Special Triumph Super 9 x 2 From: Healeys On Behalf Of Tom Mitchell Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 6:04 AM To: Roger Grace Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] GB Oil Leak Roger, "A colleague suggests that Permatex form a gasket aviation stuff - liquid sealant in a tin .." If you use this you may not be able to get it loose again. A friend used it on his oil pan, when we went to remove it, it was brutal. no leaks though. There is also a Boiler (heat) high temp pressure sealant. Tom Mitchell On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 11:31 PM Roger Grace > wrote: BJ8 with MT 90 oil in transmission. I am struggling with an oil leak from the drain plug on my transmission. The tapered thread plug, not the brass OD one. On my last attempt I carefully cleaned the plug and the case thread. Then used used that white Permatex thread sealant. Little improvement. Kept tightening with lot more torque with 16in breaker bar plus pipe. Some minor improvement. 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URL: From airtightproductions at me.com Mon Oct 17 18:01:33 2022 From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 00:01:33 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] GB Oil Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4a26527f-3c4d-4f3f-b0fa-0522ac1fc22e@me.com> I just used Permatex Seal+Lock Thread Compound on some threads for a seal plug in my new water pump where it was leaking. The key to the whole process is to make sure you let is cure for 72 hours once you apply it and install the part before you put any "driving" pressure on the threads.I followed the directions and have driven many miles now and no leaks. Best of all 50 - 100 lbs of torque will loosen with no damage to anything.Worked for me.Steven KingsburyBN1?On Oct 16, 2022, at 8:45 PM, Roger Grace wrote:BJ8 with MT 90 oil in transmission.I am struggling with an oil leak from the drain plug on my transmission.The tapered thread plug, not the brass OD one.On my last attempt I carefully cleaned the plug and the case thread.Then used used that white Permatex thread sealant.Little improvement.Kept tightening with lot more torque with 16in breaker bar plus pipe.Some minor improvement.Fearing damage, now reluctant to do any more tightening.A colleague suggests that Permatex form a gasket aviation stuff - liquid sealant in a tin ...Is this a common issue - maybe a new plug ?Ideas please and your collective wisdom appreciated.rg_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 18:25:14 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 08:25:14 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Repair in North Carolina In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Burt - Anyone who is familiar with british cars can help you. MGs, Triumphs, Land Rovers or Jaguars... Check if there is anyone who knows british cars around. Alternatively, usually a car running rich is indicative of worn jets on your HS6 carbs. This is easily fixed by purchasing new jets and following the instructions on how to install and center them. It will save you alot more time and effort for you to take the carbs off yourself, rebuild them yourself and put them back on. It's actually not a very difficult job, and can be done within a couple hours if you plan well. Best, Alan On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 4:25 AM Burt Weiner wrote: > ANyone on the list know of a decent Healey repair shop near Wilmington NC? > Hauling the car out to Hendrick WIre Wheel in Greensboro is an expensive > option. He's excellent but too far away. > > Starts, runs poorly, black smoke smells like it's too rich but after > installing lean needles and leaning the cards as far as the nut will turn - > no joy. > > TIA for any leads... > > Burt > > -- > Burt Weiner > 63 BJ7 > bighealey63 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cpcooper at ymail.com Mon Oct 17 18:42:52 2022 From: cpcooper at ymail.com (Craig Cooper) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 00:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 15, Issue 313 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <436985809.3199123.1666053772598@mail.yahoo.com> Massive Oil Leak???? I'd check the flexible oil pressure line that goes from the block to the firewall.? These get fragile with age and can start spouting oil if bumped when working on the right side of the motor. Craig On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 11:31:42 AM PDT, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote: Send Healeys mailing list submissions to ??? healeys at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? healeys-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? healeys-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. massive oil leak (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=) ? 2. Re: It's time to let it go (BJ8Healeys) ? 3. Re: It's time to let it go (Perry Small) ? 4. Re: massive oil leak (Stephen Hutchings) ? 5. Re: massive oil leak (Bob Spidell) ? 6. Re: Sheet metal suppliers (David Lodge) ? 7. Re: massive oil leak (Harold Manifold) ? 8. Re: Turn Signals (jim) ? 9. Re: Turn Signals (Engl) ? 10. Re: Turn Signals (john harper) ? 11. Re: massive oil leak (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) changed oil in a club member's tri carb.? went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car.? by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive.? coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change.? assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast?? any other places to look? The original owner of my BJ8told me the car was stolen from him the same day he bought? it new.? Policefound it early the next morning, out of gas and the perps took his portableradio, but otherwise the car was fine.? I have the newspaper article about thetheft. ? In 2007, the owner of a BJ8asked If the BJ8 Registry had any record of 40136.? ?It was stolen from him in1970 and at the time was not insured.? I did not have any record of it, butadded it to the registry with the info he provided.? I saw it come up for saleby a dealer in 2012 and notified him.? He was able to recover it, 42 yearsafter it was stolen.? Most owners of Healeys areinterested in the previous ownership history of their cars, but there is noother place except the? BJ8 Registry (for BJ8s, of course) where the continuousownership record can be documented and preserved for those who come after us.?It makes it possible for one owner of a car to contact the other owners if theywish to do so. Anyone with a BJ8 who has notallowed me to include it in the registry should do so.? You never know.? TheRegistry currently documents more than 55% of total BJ8 production (9,767 of17,712 cars built). ? Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC? ? From: Healeys[mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of m.g.sharp--- viaHealeys Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 1:05 PM To: 'i erbs'; 'Jim Ryan' Cc: 'List Healey' Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's time to let it go ? I bought my BT7 48 years ago from adelightful Irishman. He had bought it new. ?Unfortunately died a few yearsago but when he was still around I would visit him periodically and over aglass of sherry (or two) he would recall stories about the car while in hisownership.? One recollection was that while working late one evening inhis Toronto office (he was an engineer), he heard a Healey start up and to hishorror watched out the window as someone tore out of the parking lot in hiscar.? He feared the worst as there had been a rash of sports car theftsand the kids who were stealing were joyriding for a few hours then driving theminto Lake Ontario. ? The car was found by the police later thatnight on Lakeshore Road ? out of gas.? The car probably dodged a bulletthat night. ? From: Healeys OnBehalf Of i erbs Sent: October 15, 2022 12:17 PM To: Jim Ryan Cc: List Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's time to let it go ? Years ago a friends corvair convertible wasstolen. When he got it back it had been detailed, the top was fixed and it hada full tank of gas... ? On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 6:11 AM Jim Ryan viaHealeys wrote: Speaking of themes... ? That BJ 7 I bought in 1974 was stolen aweek after I got it, no insurance.3 months later I had moved and was gettingready to go look at an MGB for sale when I thought I would give the Bostonpolice one more call. They said they were glad to hear from me because theyfound the car a month ago, but because I had moved they had no way to get aholdof me. So I took a bus and hitched a ride out to Groton Massachusetts where Ifound it sitting at a gas station. Funny thing was,? it was also full ofcamping equipment, that wasn't there when it got stolen. Everything was in thecar my tools, nick-nacks, the only thing that was damaged was the trunk lockand the ignition. I guess they would just turn the battery off to stop it, thenturn it on to start it up. ? On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 12:02 PM ChristopherMoog via Healeys wrote: What is this arunning theme. I purchased a BJ7 in the mid 1990s. Started restoring. Movedseveral times. When I retrieved it from a rental garage (four years ago afterhaving stored it five years) the interior had been stolen. It was in separateboxes waiting for me to finish the body. So now I have no seats, carpets, doorcards or interior trim. It was all leather and worth several grand. That tookthe steam out of me finishing the car. I'm retiring this spring so I hope to put the time (and money) into get itdone. Well see if this happens or if I too end up selling and enjoying adifferent car. Though I could give it to a 20 something nephew has the skill tofinish it. He is not yet shown interest in something like that, he's more intomid-80s pick-up trucks. But tastes change. Good luck with the paring down of projects. Life gets shorter and we all haveto decide what we want to spend our time doing. Driving a Bugeye is a lot morefun to most people than restoring a car. On 10/14/2022 9:10 AM, Jim Ryan wrote: Sorry, fat fingered that last email. ? What I was going to say was how similaryour story is to mine. I bought a BJ 7 in 1974, never really fully restored itas I wanted to, and neither of my son's wanted it. So I ended up selling it forwhat I could get about four years ago and picked up a little Bugeye driver. Istill have it and in some ways enjoying it more than the big Healy. ? Anyway, what part of New Hampshire are youin? I'm on the Seacoast. ? On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 9:06 AM Jim Ryan wrote: Hey Kent,? ? ? ? On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM Kent McLeanwrote: I've owned my1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the intention of restoring it,but life has gotten in the way and it is still waiting for my attention. It iswith a heavy heart that I've resigned myself to passing along the dream.?Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, and I'll give you the details. Firstdetail: it is located in New Hampshire, USA. The list has first dibs; if itdoesn't sell here, it goes to eBay. Kent McLean '56 100 and '60 Bugeye _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com ? _______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation? $12.75 ?Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys ?Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys ?Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cgmoog at optonline.net ? ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com ListersWe have 57 years under our seatbelts in the red car, our 1955 BN2. As far as I know never stolen or badly abused during the first 10 years of its existence. But must say the body required repair when it was purchased. The factory didn?t spend a lot of money on paint back then. IN 1965 it was really a big deal to fork out $275 US for a 10 year old car. Had a lot of fun over the years and it has enabled a lot of great long lasting friendships.?Memories!!!!Perry Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2022, at 4:54 PM, BJ8Healeys via Healeys wrote: ? _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv6089056265 p.yiv6089056265MsoNormal, #yiv6089056265 li.yiv6089056265MsoNormal, #yiv6089056265 div.yiv6089056265MsoNormal {margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;}#yiv6089056265 a:link, #yiv6089056265 span.yiv6089056265MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6089056265 a:visited, #yiv6089056265 span.yiv6089056265MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6089056265 pre {margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New";}#yiv6089056265 span.yiv6089056265HTMLPreformattedChar {font-family:Consolas;}#yiv6089056265 span.yiv6089056265EmailStyle19 {font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv6089056265 span.yiv6089056265EmailStyle20 {font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);}#yiv6089056265 .yiv6089056265MsoChpDefault {font-size:10pt;} _filtered {}#yiv6089056265 div.yiv6089056265Section1 {} The original owner of my BJ8told me the car was stolen from him the same day he bought? it new.? Policefound it early the next morning, out of gas and the perps took his portableradio, but otherwise the car was fine.? I have the newspaper article about thetheft. ? In 2007, the owner of a BJ8asked If the BJ8 Registry had any record of 40136.? ?It was stolen from him in1970 and at the time was not insured.? I did not have any record of it, butadded it to the registry with the info he provided.? I saw it come up for saleby a dealer in 2012 and notified him.? He was able to recover it, 42 yearsafter it was stolen.? Most owners of Healeys areinterested in the previous ownership history of their cars, but there is noother place except the? BJ8 Registry (for BJ8s, of course) where the continuousownership record can be documented and preserved for those who come after us.?It makes it possible for one owner of a car to contact the other owners if theywish to do so. Anyone with a BJ8 who has notallowed me to include it in the registry should do so.? You never know.? TheRegistry currently documents more than 55% of total BJ8 production (9,767 of17,712 cars built). ? Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC? ? From: Healeys[mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of m.g.sharp--- viaHealeys Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 1:05 PM To: 'i erbs'; 'Jim Ryan' Cc: 'List Healey' Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's time to let it go ? I bought my BT7 48 years ago from adelightful Irishman. He had bought it new. ?Unfortunately died a few yearsago but when he was still around I would visit him periodically and over aglass of sherry (or two) he would recall stories about the car while in hisownership.? One recollection was that while working late one evening inhis Toronto office (he was an engineer), he heard a Healey start up and to hishorror watched out the window as someone tore out of the parking lot in hiscar.? He feared the worst as there had been a rash of sports car theftsand the kids who were stealing were joyriding for a few hours then driving theminto Lake Ontario. ? The car was found by the police later thatnight on Lakeshore Road ? out of gas.? The car probably dodged a bulletthat night. ? From: Healeys OnBehalf Of i erbs Sent: October 15, 2022 12:17 PM To: Jim Ryan Cc: List Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's time to let it go ? Years ago a friends corvair convertible wasstolen. When he got it back it had been detailed, the top was fixed and it hada full tank of gas... ? On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 6:11 AM Jim Ryan viaHealeys wrote: Speaking of themes... ? That BJ 7 I bought in 1974 was stolen aweek after I got it, no insurance.3 months later I had moved and was gettingready to go look at an MGB for sale when I thought I would give the Bostonpolice one more call. They said they were glad to hear from me because theyfound the car a month ago, but because I had moved they had no way to get aholdof me. So I took a bus and hitched a ride out to Groton Massachusetts where Ifound it sitting at a gas station. Funny thing was,? it was also full ofcamping equipment, that wasn't there when it got stolen. Everything was in thecar my tools, nick-nacks, the only thing that was damaged was the trunk lockand the ignition. I guess they would just turn the battery off to stop it, thenturn it on to start it up. ? On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 12:02 PM ChristopherMoog via Healeys wrote: What is this arunning theme. I purchased a BJ7 in the mid 1990s. Started restoring. Movedseveral times. When I retrieved it from a rental garage (four years ago afterhaving stored it five years) the interior had been stolen. It was in separateboxes waiting for me to finish the body. So now I have no seats, carpets, doorcards or interior trim. It was all leather and worth several grand. That tookthe steam out of me finishing the car. I'm retiring this spring so I hope to put the time (and money) into get itdone. Well see if this happens or if I too end up selling and enjoying adifferent car. Though I could give it to a 20 something nephew has the skill tofinish it. He is not yet shown interest in something like that, he's more intomid-80s pick-up trucks. But tastes change. Good luck with the paring down of projects. Life gets shorter and we all haveto decide what we want to spend our time doing. Driving a Bugeye is a lot morefun to most people than restoring a car. On 10/14/2022 9:10 AM, Jim Ryan wrote: Sorry, fat fingered that last email. ? What I was going to say was how similaryour story is to mine. I bought a BJ 7 in 1974, never really fully restored itas I wanted to, and neither of my son's wanted it. So I ended up selling it forwhat I could get about four years ago and picked up a little Bugeye driver. Istill have it and in some ways enjoying it more than the big Healy. ? Anyway, what part of New Hampshire are youin? I'm on the Seacoast. ? On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 9:06 AM Jim Ryan wrote: Hey Kent,? ? ? ? On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 3:32 PM Kent McLeanwrote: I've owned my1956 100 since April of 1974. I bought it with the intention of restoring it,but life has gotten in the way and it is still waiting for my attention. It iswith a heavy heart that I've resigned myself to passing along the dream.?Contact me off-list, subject line BN2, and I'll give you the details. Firstdetail: it is located in New Hampshire, USA. The list has first dibs; if itdoesn't sell here, it goes to eBay. Kent McLean '56 100 and '60 Bugeye _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com ? _______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation? $12.75 ?Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys ?Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys ?Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cgmoog at optonline.net ? ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com Make sure the oil filter is sealed properly=E2=80=A6the trail from a = leaking filter can be misleading. Stephen, BJ8 > On Oct 15, 2022, at 2:20 PM, healeymanjim = wrote: >=20 > changed oil in a club member's tri carb.? went to get gas and noticed = lots of oil under car.? by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or = more of oil on a few mile drive.? coming from rear of engine and coming = out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil = change.? assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that = fast?? any other places to look? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys = http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >=20 > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com >=20 Stock 'seal' or aftermarket upgrade? On 10/15/2022 11:20 AM, healeymanjim wrote: > changed oil in a club member's tri carb.? went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car.? by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive.? coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change.? assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast?? any other places to look? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > Some are much better than others but none are perfect matches to the original and ALL have needed fettling to a greater or lesser degree, in my experience. My particular bugbear are the narrow flanges that seem to be obligatory on all.? Having said all that, Kilmartin are quite good. On Friday, 14 October 2022 at 16:09:39 GMT-7, Harold Manifold wrote: I have purchased sheet metal parts from Ah Spares, A Head for Healeys and Kilmartin and would rate Kilmartin as the best one. Harold On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 10:27 AM S and T Miller wrote: I have always been satisfied with sheet metal from both British car specialists and AHspares. There are a few things I'd like to order the are only currently offered by Ahead4healeys.? It appears their sheet metal is made by their own (owned) company shapecraft. I have zero experience with them. I'd like to get some thoughts on quality? Emailing off list is perfectly fine if preferred.?TIA.? The Millers ? "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk Double check the drain plug. Try a new copper gasket and check the drain plug flange on the oil pan for burrs or nicks. Touch up with a file if required. If the engine is original there is no rear main seal to fail just the infamous archimedes?screw and it is unlikely?to fail catastrophically. Harold On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 5:26 PM Bob Spidell wrote: Stock 'seal' or aftermarket upgrade? On 10/15/2022 11:20 AM, healeymanjim wrote: > changed oil in a club member's tri carb.? ?went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car.? by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive.? coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change.? assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast?? ?any other places to look? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net . As the signal light flashers ground through the signal lights, there has to be something to provide a higher resistance than pure LED?s. > Are you SURE you mean "higher resistance than pure LED's???? Back in the old days signal flashers were composed of (among other things) with a "bi-metallic strip".? The purpose of said strip was to bend when heated by current flowing through an associated heating element and interrupt (flash) the bulbs.? If normal signal bulbs (1157 type) operated at nominal 2 amperes current flow, 2 in parallel (front and rear per side) flow 4 amps would flow through the flasher.?? A standard single junction LED can "light" with around 20 milliamperes of current.? High current LEDs or LEDs with associated ballast resistors are necessary to flow the MUCH higher current needed by the non-electronic flasher Jim _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com Hi Jim You are 100% corr=ect. I should have said lower resistance.? V=3D=IR and all that.? Thanks.? Bob England On= Oct 15, 2022, at 8:17 PM, jim wrote: =EF=BB=BF =20 . As the signal light flashers groun=d through the signal lights, there has to be something to provide a higher r=esistance than pure LED=E2=80=99s. > Are yo=u SURE you mean "higher resistance than pure LED's???? Back in the old days signal flashers were composed of (among= other things) with a "bi-metallic strip".? The purpose of said strip w=as to bend when heated by current flowing through an associated heating elem=ent and interrupt (flash) the bulbs.? If normal signal bulbs (1157 type=) operated at nominal 2 amperes current flow, 2 in parallel (front and rear p=er side) flow 4 amps would flow through the flasher.?? A standard s=ingle junction LED can "light" with around 20 milliamperes of current.?= High current LEDs or LEDs with associated ballast resistors are necessary t=o flow the MUCH higher current needed by the non-electronic flasher Jim _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htm=l Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.ne=t/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archiv=e/healeys Healeys at a=utox.team.net http://=autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: htt=p://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com =Jim I fully agree with your description of an 'old' flasher?unit but it was not a bi-metal strip but a wire under tension that extended and lost its tension when current went through it and cut off the current, similar to a bi-metal strip. The wire then cooled and shrank allowing the current to flow again. On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 04:55, Engl wrote: Hi Jim You are 100% correct. I should have said lower resistance.? V=IR and all that.? Thanks.? Bob England On Oct 15, 2022, at 8:17 PM, jim wrote: ? . As the signal light flashers ground through the signal lights, there has to be something to provide a higher resistance than pure LED?s. > Are you SURE you mean "higher resistance than pure LED's???? Back in the old days signal flashers were composed of (among other things) with a "bi-metallic strip".? The purpose of said strip was to bend when heated by current flowing through an associated heating element and interrupt (flash) the bulbs.? If normal signal bulbs (1157 type) operated at nominal 2 amperes current flow, 2 in parallel (front and rear per side) flow 4 amps would flow through the flasher.?? A standard single junction LED can "light" with around 20 milliamperes of current.? High current LEDs or LEDs with associated ballast resistors are necessary to flow the MUCH higher current needed by the non-electronic flasher Jim _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com Agreed. Anything to do with the oil filter can be very messy indeed. = Done that! Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Stephen = Hutchings via Healeys Sent: 15 October 2022 23:29 To: healeymanjim Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak Make sure the oil filter is sealed properly=E2=80=A6the trail from a = leaking filter can be misleading. Stephen, BJ8 _______________________________________________ Healeys mailing list Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys archives:? http://autox.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 20:50:09 2022 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:50:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] GB Oil Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Stag Wellseal. https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=3304 Mike MacLean On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:00 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > oops .. forgot the link > > > https://www.amazon.com/Rectorseal-25551-8-Ounce-Thread-Sealant/dp/B000H5MW0O?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER > > > On 10/16/2022 9:15 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > The white teflon sealant usually works well enough if the the threads > > are well-matched. Teflon tape might be a little better but, usually, > > it isn't. This stuff works best for me in plumbing applications, > > should be OK. > > > > Go easy on the breaker bar, it's possible to crack the case; in fact, > > have a close look at it to check for cracking. > > > > > > On 10/16/2022 8:18 PM, Roger Grace wrote: > >> BJ8 with MT 90 oil in transmission. > >> I am struggling with an oil leak from the drain plug on my transmission. > >> The tapered thread plug, not the brass OD one. > >> On my last attempt I carefully cleaned the plug and the case thread. > >> Then used used that white Permatex thread sealant. > >> Little improvement. > >> Kept tightening with lot more torque with 16in breaker bar plus pipe. > >> Some minor improvement. > >> Fearing damage, now reluctant to do any more tightening. > >> A colleague suggests that Permatex form a gasket aviation stuff - > >> liquid sealant in a tin ... > >> Is this a common issue - maybe a new plug ? > >> Ideas please and your collective wisdom appreciated. > >> rg > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/springer.mike51 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Mon Oct 17 22:07:48 2022 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 21:07:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?massive_oil_leak?= In-Reply-To: <001801d8e13f$9c422740$d4c675c0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <001801d8e13f$9c422740$d4c675c0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <20221018040748.50400.qmail@server278.com> have checked all places it could leak. it is coming from the back of the motor and leaking out between the motor and trans and the hole in bottom of bell housing. dropped pan today to see if possibly oil return from rear bearing was plugged up. removed drain pipe and pushed wire up into drain from slinger. could not find any obstruction. hoping not to have to remove rear main cap. only other place i can think of is rear of cam but hard to imagine that much oil leaking from there. still open to suggestions. > -------Original Message------- > From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys > To: > Cc: 'Healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak > Sent: Oct 16 '22 02:31 > > Agreed. Anything to do with the oil filter can be very messy indeed. Done that! > Simon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Stephen Hutchings via Healeys > Sent: 15 October 2022 23:29 > To: healeymanjim > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak > > Make sure the oil filter is sealed properly?the trail from a leaking filter can be misleading. > > Stephen, BJ8 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation??$12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeymanjim at hansencc.net > > From rchaskell at earthlink.net Tue Oct 18 04:17:43 2022 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 06:17:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <20221018040748.50400.qmail@server278.com> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <001801d8e13f$9c422740$d4c675c0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <20221018040748.50400.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <8747e313-a590-e447-3252-d2124b10c760@earthlink.net> I think the only sources of engine oil at the rear of the block are the rear main, the camshaft and the oil gallery.? I'd reinstall the pan, support the rear of the engine and remove the gearbox and the rear engine plate. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 10/18/22 12:07 AM, healeymanjim wrote: > have checked all places it could leak. it is coming from the back of the motor and leaking out between the motor and trans and the hole in bottom of bell housing. dropped pan today to see if possibly oil return from rear bearing was plugged up. removed drain pipe and pushed wire up into drain from slinger. could not find any obstruction. hoping not to have to remove rear main cap. only other place i can think of is rear of cam but hard to imagine that much oil leaking from there. still open to suggestions. > >> -------Original Message------- >> From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys >> To: >> Cc: 'Healeys' >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >> Sent: Oct 16 '22 02:31 >> >> Agreed. Anything to do with the oil filter can be very messy indeed. Done that! >> Simon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Healeys On Behalf Of Stephen Hutchings via Healeys >> Sent: 15 October 2022 23:29 >> To: healeymanjim >> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >> >> Make sure the oil filter is sealed properly?the trail from a leaking filter can be misleading. >> >> Stephen, BJ8 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation??$12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeymanjim at hansencc.net >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From ryan at jimryan.com Tue Oct 18 07:40:57 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 09:40:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <8747e313-a590-e447-3252-d2124b10c760@earthlink.net> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <001801d8e13f$9c422740$d4c675c0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <20221018040748.50400.qmail@server278.com> <8747e313-a590-e447-3252-d2124b10c760@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I dont know, it was fine, changed the oil, went for a drive, lost 4 quarts. So the only things touched were the oil drain plug and filter. Unless the drain plug fell out that much oil that quick had to come from the filter. Is it the cannister type or spin on? Can you get under it with the engine running and see anything? That big a leak should be pretty obvious. If it's a cannister type my money is on the cannister seal. On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 6:27 AM Bob Haskell via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I think the only sources of engine oil at the rear of the block are the > rear main, the camshaft and the oil gallery. I'd reinstall the pan, > support the rear of the engine and remove the gearbox and the rear > engine plate. > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > > On 10/18/22 12:07 AM, healeymanjim wrote: > > have checked all places it could leak. it is coming from the back of > the motor and leaking out between the motor and trans and the hole in > bottom of bell housing. dropped pan today to see if possibly oil return > from rear bearing was plugged up. removed drain pipe and pushed wire up > into drain from slinger. could not find any obstruction. hoping not to > have to remove rear main cap. only other place i can think of is rear of > cam but hard to imagine that much oil leaking from there. still open to > suggestions. > > > >> -------Original Message------- > >> From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys > >> To: > >> Cc: 'Healeys' > >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak > >> Sent: Oct 16 '22 02:31 > >> > >> Agreed. Anything to do with the oil filter can be very messy indeed. > Done that! > >> Simon > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Healeys On Behalf Of Stephen > Hutchings via Healeys > >> Sent: 15 October 2022 23:29 > >> To: healeymanjim > >> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak > >> > >> Make sure the oil filter is sealed properly?the trail from a leaking > filter can be misleading. > >> > >> Stephen, BJ8 > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > >> > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >> > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeymanjim at hansencc.net > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmasucci at charter.net Tue Oct 18 08:41:29 2022 From: dmasucci at charter.net (dmasucci) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 10:41:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: Message-ID: One clue I see is changing of the filter. If there were a blockage in the filter, would the pressure rise to the point where the oil cannot be contained by a bearing seal?DaveSent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: Jim Ryan Date: 10/18/22 9:55 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Bob Haskell Cc: List Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak I dont know, it was fine, changed the oil, went for a drive, lost 4 quarts.? So the only things touched were the oil drain plug and filter.? Unless the drain plug fell out that much oil that quick had to come from the filter.? Is it the cannister type or spin on?? Can you get under it with the engine running and see anything?? That big a leak should be pretty obvious.If it's a cannister type my money is on the cannister seal.??On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 6:27 AM Bob Haskell via Healeys wrote:I think the only sources of engine oil at the rear of the block are the rear main, the camshaft and the oil gallery.? I'd reinstall the pan, support the rear of the engine and remove the gearbox and the rear engine plate. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 10/18/22 12:07 AM, healeymanjim wrote: > have checked all places it could leak.? it is coming from the back of the motor and leaking out between the motor and trans and the hole in bottom of bell housing.? dropped pan today to see if possibly oil return from rear bearing was plugged up.? removed drain pipe and pushed wire up into drain from slinger.? could not find any obstruction.? hoping not to have to remove rear main cap.? only other place i can think of is rear of cam but hard to imagine that much oil leaking from there.? still open to suggestions. > >>? ?-------Original Message------- >>? ?From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys >>? ?To: >>? ?Cc: 'Healeys' >>? ?Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >>? ?Sent: Oct 16 '22 02:31 >>? ? >>? ?Agreed. Anything to do with the oil filter can be very messy indeed. Done that! >>? ?Simon >>? ? >>? ?-----Original Message----- >>? ?From: Healeys On Behalf Of Stephen Hutchings via Healeys >>? ?Sent: 15 October 2022 23:29 >>? ?To: healeymanjim >>? ?Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >>? ?Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >>? ? >>? ?Make sure the oil filter is sealed properly?the trail from a leaking filter can be misleading. >>? ? >>? ?Stephen, BJ8 >>? ? >>? ? >>? ?_______________________________________________ >>? ?Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>? ?Suggested annual donation??$12.75 >>? ? >>? ?Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>? ? >>? ?Healeys at autox.team.net >>? ?http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>? ? >>? ?Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeymanjim at hansencc.net >>? ? >>? ? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Tue Oct 18 08:49:43 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 10:49:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <634ebb1a.050a0220.48f32.adb8SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <634ebb1a.050a0220.48f32.adb8SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Could be. I think I would start with installing a new filter and see what happens. Start with the simple solution. On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 10:41 AM dmasucci wrote: > One clue I see is changing of the filter. If there were a blockage in the > filter, would the pressure rise to the point where the oil cannot be > contained by a bearing seal? > > Dave > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Jim Ryan > Date: 10/18/22 9:55 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: Bob Haskell > Cc: List Healey > Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak > > I dont know, it was fine, changed the oil, went for a drive, lost 4 > quarts. So the only things touched were the oil drain plug and filter. > Unless the drain plug fell out that much oil that quick had to come from > the filter. Is it the cannister type or spin on? Can you get under it > with the engine running and see anything? That big a leak should be pretty > obvious. > > If it's a cannister type my money is on the cannister seal. > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 6:27 AM Bob Haskell via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I think the only sources of engine oil at the rear of the block are the >> rear main, the camshaft and the oil gallery. I'd reinstall the pan, >> support the rear of the engine and remove the gearbox and the rear >> engine plate. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bob Haskell >> Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar >> >> On 10/18/22 12:07 AM, healeymanjim wrote: >> > have checked all places it could leak. it is coming from the back of >> the motor and leaking out between the motor and trans and the hole in >> bottom of bell housing. dropped pan today to see if possibly oil return >> from rear bearing was plugged up. removed drain pipe and pushed wire up >> into drain from slinger. could not find any obstruction. hoping not to >> have to remove rear main cap. only other place i can think of is rear of >> cam but hard to imagine that much oil leaking from there. still open to >> suggestions. >> > >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys >> >> To: >> >> Cc: 'Healeys' >> >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >> >> Sent: Oct 16 '22 02:31 >> >> >> >> Agreed. Anything to do with the oil filter can be very messy indeed. >> Done that! >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Healeys On Behalf Of Stephen >> Hutchings via Healeys >> >> Sent: 15 October 2022 23:29 >> >> To: healeymanjim >> >> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >> >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >> >> >> >> Make sure the oil filter is sealed properly?the trail from a leaking >> filter can be misleading. >> >> >> >> Stephen, BJ8 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeymanjim at hansencc.net >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> > >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmasucci at charter.net Tue Oct 18 09:29:31 2022 From: dmasucci at charter.net (dmasucci) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Agreed!!Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: Jim Ryan Date: 10/18/22 10:50 AM (GMT-05:00) To: dmasucci Cc: Bob Haskell , List Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak Could be. I think I would start with installing a new filter and see what happens. Start with the simple solution.On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 10:41 AM dmasucci wrote:One clue I see is changing of the filter. If there were a blockage in the filter, would the pressure rise to the point where the oil cannot be contained by a bearing seal?DaveSent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Jim Ryan Date: 10/18/22 9:55 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Bob Haskell Cc: List Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak I dont know, it was fine, changed the oil, went for a drive, lost 4 quarts.? So the only things touched were the oil drain plug and filter.? Unless the drain plug fell out that much oil that quick had to come from the filter.? Is it the cannister type or spin on?? Can you get under it with the engine running and see anything?? That big a leak should be pretty obvious.If it's a cannister type my money is on the cannister seal.??On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 6:27 AM Bob Haskell via Healeys wrote:I think the only sources of engine oil at the rear of the block are the rear main, the camshaft and the oil gallery.? I'd reinstall the pan, support the rear of the engine and remove the gearbox and the rear engine plate. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 10/18/22 12:07 AM, healeymanjim wrote: > have checked all places it could leak.? it is coming from the back of the motor and leaking out between the motor and trans and the hole in bottom of bell housing.? dropped pan today to see if possibly oil return from rear bearing was plugged up.? removed drain pipe and pushed wire up into drain from slinger.? could not find any obstruction.? hoping not to have to remove rear main cap.? only other place i can think of is rear of cam but hard to imagine that much oil leaking from there.? still open to suggestions. > >>? ?-------Original Message------- >>? ?From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys >>? ?To: >>? ?Cc: 'Healeys' >>? ?Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >>? ?Sent: Oct 16 '22 02:31 >>? ? >>? ?Agreed. Anything to do with the oil filter can be very messy indeed. Done that! >>? ?Simon >>? ? >>? ?-----Original Message----- >>? ?From: Healeys On Behalf Of Stephen Hutchings via Healeys >>? ?Sent: 15 October 2022 23:29 >>? ?To: healeymanjim >>? ?Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >>? ?Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >>? ? >>? ?Make sure the oil filter is sealed properly?the trail from a leaking filter can be misleading. >>? ? >>? ?Stephen, BJ8 >>? ? >>? ? >>? ?_______________________________________________ >>? ?Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>? ?Suggested annual donation??$12.75 >>? ? >>? ?Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>? ? >>? ?Healeys at autox.team.net >>? ?http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>? ? >>? ?Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeymanjim at hansencc.net >>? ? >>? ? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Oct 18 09:51:26 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 11:51:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: I can't imagine that doing an oil change could be the cause of a sudden increase in leakage from the rear main however, I have had the same issue when the vent pipe to the rear air filter was dislodged and bent over blocking all air flow. Might be worth checking that the crankcase venting is working. M On Sat., Oct. 15, 2022, 3:55 p.m. healeymanjim, wrote: > changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed > lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more > of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out > bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. > assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any > other places to look? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Tue Oct 18 10:20:52 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 09:20:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <634ebb1a.050a0220.48f32.adb8SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I agree with changing the filter to one that has a drain back and a bypass. The WIX 51516 has these features; others may also. As others have mentioned there are only three places for oil to come out the back of the engine. The crankshaft, the camshaft and the end of the oil gallery. None should leak as quickly as yours seems to unless something bad happened. Unfortunately the rear engine plate must be removed to see where the source is. Harold On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 8:42 AM Jim Ryan wrote: > Could be. I think I would start with installing a new filter and see what > happens. Start with the simple solution. > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 10:41 AM dmasucci wrote: > >> One clue I see is changing of the filter. If there were a blockage in the >> filter, would the pressure rise to the point where the oil cannot be >> contained by a bearing seal? >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> Sent from my Galaxy >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Jim Ryan >> Date: 10/18/22 9:55 AM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Bob Haskell >> Cc: List Healey >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >> >> I dont know, it was fine, changed the oil, went for a drive, lost 4 >> quarts. So the only things touched were the oil drain plug and filter. >> Unless the drain plug fell out that much oil that quick had to come from >> the filter. Is it the cannister type or spin on? Can you get under it >> with the engine running and see anything? That big a leak should be pretty >> obvious. >> >> If it's a cannister type my money is on the cannister seal. >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 6:27 AM Bob Haskell via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> I think the only sources of engine oil at the rear of the block are the >>> rear main, the camshaft and the oil gallery. I'd reinstall the pan, >>> support the rear of the engine and remove the gearbox and the rear >>> engine plate. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Bob Haskell >>> Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar >>> >>> On 10/18/22 12:07 AM, healeymanjim wrote: >>> > have checked all places it could leak. it is coming from the back of >>> the motor and leaking out between the motor and trans and the hole in >>> bottom of bell housing. dropped pan today to see if possibly oil return >>> from rear bearing was plugged up. removed drain pipe and pushed wire up >>> into drain from slinger. could not find any obstruction. hoping not to >>> have to remove rear main cap. only other place i can think of is rear of >>> cam but hard to imagine that much oil leaking from there. still open to >>> suggestions. >>> > >>> >> -------Original Message------- >>> >> From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys >>> >> To: >>> >> Cc: 'Healeys' >>> >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >>> >> Sent: Oct 16 '22 02:31 >>> >> >>> >> Agreed. Anything to do with the oil filter can be very messy >>> indeed. Done that! >>> >> Simon >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: Healeys On Behalf Of >>> Stephen Hutchings via Healeys >>> >> Sent: 15 October 2022 23:29 >>> >> To: healeymanjim >>> >> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >>> >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >>> >> >>> >> Make sure the oil filter is sealed properly?the trail from a >>> leaking filter can be misleading. >>> >> >>> >> Stephen, BJ8 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >> >>> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >> >>> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >> >>> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeymanjim at hansencc.net >>> >> >>> >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> > >>> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> > >>> > Healeys at autox.team.net >>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> > >>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Tue Oct 18 11:45:00 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 17:45:00 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak Message-ID: <2b666133bde4c3dd26eae31d65390cce459c4f3a@webmail> My question is: DID YOU USE SYNTHITIC OIL, OR REAL OIL??? If you used the synthetic, drain it and put in Castrol 20/50 classic oil. Real oil is about 2 microns thick -synthetic is "smaller" and will leak like a sieve. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Michael Salter" To: "healeymanjim" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday October 18 2022 10:05:27AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak I can't imagine that doing an oil change could be the cause of a sudden increase in leakage from the rear main however, I have had the same issue when the vent pipe to the rear air filter was dislodged and bent over blocking all air flow. Might be worth checking that the crankcase venting is working. M On Sat., Oct. 15, 2022, 3:55 p.m. healeymanjim, wrote: changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any other places to look? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net [1]http://www.team.net/donate.html [2] Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: [3]http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [4] [5]http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys [6] Healeys at autox.team.net [7]http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [8] Unsubscribe/Manage: [9]http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com [10] Links: ------ [1] http://www.team.net/donate.html [2] http://www.team.net/donate.html [3] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [4] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [5] http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys [6] http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys [7] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [8] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com [10] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Could it be fixed at a worthwhile price? Or is it scrap? (I have a nephew-in-law(?) who is a talented blacksmith who could probably turn it into something or other!!) To keep things in more venial perspective, these things cost ?522:00 plus P&P from AHSpares .. Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0278.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 573114 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0279.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 577008 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0280.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 600621 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0281.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1051464 bytes Desc: not available URL: From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 20 08:58:31 2022 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock BCS) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 07:58:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Mainshaft In-Reply-To: <000001d8e48a$78e20dd0$6aa62970$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d8e48a$78e20dd0$6aa62970$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <70E434DFF06F441A846567D08C4B249F@DavidNockHP> This is a Side Shift main shaft, not a Center Shift. The front bearing surface on the Center shift box is shorter. It could be usable in a pinch I would not recommend destroying it. David Nock British Car Specialists 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 6:47 AM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Mainshaft Another question for the panel?? I was digging for something in one of my boxes of ?useful bits? the other day ? we?ve all got such boxes?? ? and, at the bottom languishing undisturbed for 25+ years, I found this mainshaft. (AEC 3486). Looking at my parts book it would fit a MkII, centre shift, with or without OD. Not sure about later cars. I?ve no idea how it wound up in my workshop; it?s never been in my MkII, that?s for sure. And ? touch wood ? I have no need of another mainshaft. Now, it?s damaged with fairly significant damage to the first 20mm of the splines. See pics. I?m wondering?.. Is it worth keeping? Would it work or would it just wreck a perfectly good gearbox? Could it be fixed at a worthwhile price? Or is it scrap? (I have a nephew-in-law(?) who is a talented blacksmith who could probably turn it into something or other!!) To keep things in more venial perspective, these things cost ?522:00 plus P&P from AHSpares??.. Simon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Oct 20 10:29:33 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:29:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Mainshaft In-Reply-To: <70E434DFF06F441A846567D08C4B249F@DavidNockHP> References: <000001d8e48a$78e20dd0$6aa62970$@alexarevel.plus.com> <70E434DFF06F441A846567D08C4B249F@DavidNockHP> Message-ID: <3131cf36-b8e7-d90c-3c0c-21f18ea4fbd9@comcast.net> I think a good machinist could refurbish it to near-new; might cost more than the new one, though. On 10/20/2022 7:58 AM, David Nock BCS via Healeys wrote: > This is a Side Shift main shaft, not a Center Shift. The front bearing > surface on the Center shift box is shorter. > It could be usable in a pinch I would not recommend destroying it. > David Nock > British Car Specialists > 209-948-8767 > www.britishcarspecialists.com > *From:* Simon Lachlan via Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, October 20, 2022 6:47 AM > *To:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* [Healeys] Mainshaft > > Another question for the panel?? > > I was digging for something in one of my boxes of ?useful bits? the > other day ? we?ve all got such boxes?? ? and, at the bottom > languishing undisturbed for 25+ years, I found this mainshaft. (AEC 3486). > > Looking at my parts book it would fit a MkII, centre shift, with or > without OD. Not sure about later cars. > > I?ve no idea how it wound up in my workshop; it?s never been in my > MkII, that?s for sure. And ? touch wood ? I have no need of another > mainshaft. > > Now, it?s damaged with fairly significant damage to the first 20mm of > the splines. See pics. > > I?m wondering?.. Is it worth keeping? Would it work or would it just > wreck a perfectly good gearbox?? Could it be fixed at a worthwhile price? > > Or is it scrap? (I have a nephew-in-law(?) who is a talented > blacksmith who could probably turn it into something or other!!) > > To keep things in more venial perspective, these things cost ?522:00 > plus P&P from AHSpares??.. > > Simon > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dos_gusanos at msn.com Thu Oct 20 15:54:25 2022 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 21:54:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Mainshaft In-Reply-To: <000001d8e48a$78e20dd0$6aa62970$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d8e48a$78e20dd0$6aa62970$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: It's the perfect alignment tool for fixing overdrives..............................Henry Morrison ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:47 AM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Mainshaft Another question for the panel?? I was digging for something in one of my boxes of ?useful bits? the other day ? we?ve all got such boxes?? ? and, at the bottom languishing undisturbed for 25+ years, I found this mainshaft. (AEC 3486). Looking at my parts book it would fit a MkII, centre shift, with or without OD. Not sure about later cars. I?ve no idea how it wound up in my workshop; it?s never been in my MkII, that?s for sure. And ? touch wood ? I have no need of another mainshaft. Now, it?s damaged with fairly significant damage to the first 20mm of the splines. See pics. I?m wondering?.. Is it worth keeping? Would it work or would it just wreck a perfectly good gearbox? Could it be fixed at a worthwhile price? Or is it scrap? (I have a nephew-in-law(?) who is a talented blacksmith who could probably turn it into something or other!!) To keep things in more venial perspective, these things cost ?522:00 plus P&P from AHSpares??.. Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 17:49:55 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 16:49:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check for leaks. I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the seal and tighten On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim wrote: > changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed > lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more > of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out > bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. > assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any > other places to look? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 18:37:10 2022 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (Ricchardd Mayor) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 17:37:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil leak. Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com > On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs wrote: > > Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check for leaks. > I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the seal and tighten > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim > wrote: > changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any other places to look? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 19:03:05 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:03:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've not been following this string that closely as I have been travelling but I thought that the initial posts described the leak as coming from the engine-transmission junction and the small hole in the tranny. If that's the case I don't see how a leak at the oil filter cannister could be the cause. I wonder if the scroll seal had been replaced by what we call a "proper" rear seal and if it had somehow become dislodged, allowing major amounts of oil into the bellhousing and ontio the garage floor? Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:46 PM Ricchardd Mayor wrote: > I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that > there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage > the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil > leak. > > > Richard Mayor > boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs wrote: > > Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, > starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check > for leaks. > I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have > slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the > seal and tighten > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim > wrote: > >> changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed >> lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more >> of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out >> bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. >> assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any >> other places to look? >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.hutchings at rogers.com Thu Oct 20 19:52:42 2022 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 21:52:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> I know what you mean Michael, but I once had an oil filter leak that spewed out a substantial amount of oil, and a lot of it was left dripping from the engine-gearbox junction. As I initially said, the filter leaks can be hard to trace . Stephen, BJ8 > On Oct 20, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys wrote: > > I've not been following this string that closely as I have been travelling but I thought that the initial posts described the leak as coming from the engine-transmission junction and the small hole in the tranny. If that's the case I don't see how a leak at the oil filter cannister could be the cause. > > I wonder if the scroll seal had been replaced by what we call a "proper" rear seal and if it had somehow become dislodged, allowing major amounts of oil into the bellhousing and ontio the garage floor? > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:46 PM Ricchardd Mayor > wrote: > I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil leak. > > > Richard Mayor > boyracer466 at gmail.com > > >> On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs > wrote: >> >> Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check for leaks. >> I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the seal and tighten >> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim > wrote: >> changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any other places to look? >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Oct 20 21:12:24 2022 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 03:12:24 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> Message-ID: Years ago someone suggested cleaning up the oil and spraying athletes' foot spray on and watch where is displaces as the oil drips leaving a trail to the source. I would imagine that if the added rear seal dislodged, it would not produce more oil than if the rear seal had never been added. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Stephen Hutchings via Healeys Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 6:52 PM To: Michael Oritt Cc: Ahealey help ; i erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak I know what you mean Michael, but I once had an oil filter leak that spewed out a substantial amount of oil, and a lot of it was left dripping from the engine-gearbox junction. As I initially said, the filter leaks can be hard to trace . Stephen, BJ8 On Oct 20, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys > wrote: I've not been following this string that closely as I have been travelling but I thought that the initial posts described the leak as coming from the engine-transmission junction and the small hole in the tranny. If that's the case I don't see how a leak at the oil filter cannister could be the cause. I wonder if the scroll seal had been replaced by what we call a "proper" rear seal and if it had somehow become dislodged, allowing major amounts of oil into the bellhousing and ontio the garage floor? Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:46 PM Ricchardd Mayor > wrote: I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil leak. Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs > wrote: Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check for leaks. I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the seal and tighten On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim > wrote: changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any other places to look? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 22:11:24 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 21:11:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> Message-ID: Richard-- I asked because--as opposed to the stock "slinger": or archimedes screw--were there a modern lip seal I believe its failure might allow a major oil leak to develop. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:12 PM Richard Kahn wrote: > Years ago someone suggested cleaning up the oil and spraying athletes' > foot spray on and watch where is displaces as the oil drips leaving a trail > to the source. I would imagine that if the added rear seal dislodged, it > would not produce more oil than if the rear seal had never been added. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Stephen > Hutchings via Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, October 20, 2022 6:52 PM > *To:* Michael Oritt > *Cc:* Ahealey help ; i erbs > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak > > I know what you mean Michael, but I once had an oil filter leak that > spewed out a substantial amount of oil, and a lot of it was left dripping > from the engine-gearbox junction. As I initially said, the filter leaks can > be hard to trace . > > Stephen, BJ8 > > On Oct 20, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I've not been following this string that closely as I have been travelling > but I thought that the initial posts described the leak as coming from the > engine-transmission junction and the small hole in the tranny. If that's > the case I don't see how a leak at the oil filter cannister could be the > cause. > > I wonder if the scroll seal had been replaced by what we call a "proper" > rear seal and if it had somehow become dislodged, allowing major amounts > of oil into the bellhousing and ontio the garage floor? > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:46 PM Ricchardd Mayor > wrote: > > I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that > there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage > the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil > leak. > > > Richard Mayor > boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs wrote: > > Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, > starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check > for leaks. > I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have > slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the > seal and tighten > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim > wrote: > > changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed > lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more > of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out > bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. > assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any > other places to look? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Thu Oct 20 23:51:12 2022 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 05:51:12 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> Message-ID: If the crankcase was overfilled it might create enough pressure to destroy or displace a mechanical seal. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Michael Oritt Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:11 AM To: Richard Kahn Cc: Ahealey help ; i erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak Richard-- I asked because--as opposed to the stock "slinger": or archimedes screw--were there a modern lip seal I believe its failure might allow a major oil leak to develop. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:12 PM Richard Kahn > wrote: Years ago someone suggested cleaning up the oil and spraying athletes' foot spray on and watch where is displaces as the oil drips leaving a trail to the source. I would imagine that if the added rear seal dislodged, it would not produce more oil than if the rear seal had never been added. ________________________________ From: Healeys > on behalf of Stephen Hutchings via Healeys > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 6:52 PM To: Michael Oritt > Cc: Ahealey help >; i erbs > Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak I know what you mean Michael, but I once had an oil filter leak that spewed out a substantial amount of oil, and a lot of it was left dripping from the engine-gearbox junction. As I initially said, the filter leaks can be hard to trace . Stephen, BJ8 On Oct 20, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys > wrote: I've not been following this string that closely as I have been travelling but I thought that the initial posts described the leak as coming from the engine-transmission junction and the small hole in the tranny. If that's the case I don't see how a leak at the oil filter cannister could be the cause. I wonder if the scroll seal had been replaced by what we call a "proper" rear seal and if it had somehow become dislodged, allowing major amounts of oil into the bellhousing and ontio the garage floor? Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:46 PM Ricchardd Mayor > wrote: I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil leak. Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs > wrote: Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check for leaks. I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the seal and tighten On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim > wrote: changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any other places to look? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Fri Oct 21 05:53:43 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:53:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> Message-ID: @Ricchardd Mayor. That is exactly what happened to me on my first oil change. I guess if you need to go for original for concours reasons one might keep that original system. I didn't so I went with the spin on conversion. On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:44 PM Ricchardd Mayor wrote: > I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that > there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage > the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil > leak. > > > Richard Mayor > boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs wrote: > > Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, > starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check > for leaks. > I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have > slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the > seal and tighten > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim > wrote: > >> changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed >> lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more >> of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out >> bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. >> assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any >> other places to look? >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikljmal at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 06:38:07 2022 From: mikljmal at gmail.com (Michael J Maloney) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:38:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> Message-ID: My experience with massive oil leak occurred when I replaced original filter with a spin-off.The problem was at the engine block and the adapter for the spin off. I had to modify the adapter by filing a small notch in it,so that it fit flat against the block. Problem solved THEN the cleanup began! On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 10:14 PM Stephen Hutchings via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I know what you mean Michael, but I once had an oil filter leak that > spewed out a substantial amount of oil, and a lot of it was left dripping > from the engine-gearbox junction. As I initially said, the filter leaks can > be hard to trace . > > Stephen, BJ8 > > On Oct 20, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I've not been following this string that closely as I have been travelling > but I thought that the initial posts described the leak as coming from the > engine-transmission junction and the small hole in the tranny. If that's > the case I don't see how a leak at the oil filter cannister could be the > cause. > > I wonder if the scroll seal had been replaced by what we call a "proper" > rear seal and if it had somehow become dislodged, allowing major amounts > of oil into the bellhousing and ontio the garage floor? > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:46 PM Ricchardd Mayor > wrote: > >> I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that >> there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage >> the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil >> leak. >> >> >> Richard Mayor >> boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> >> On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs wrote: >> >> Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, >> starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check >> for leaks. >> I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have >> slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the >> seal and tighten >> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim >> wrote: >> >>> changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed >>> lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more >>> of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out >>> bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. >>> assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any >>> other places to look? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mikljmal at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Fri Oct 21 06:40:18 2022 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (greylinn at ozemail.com.au) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 22:40:18 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> Message-ID: ?.there?s a number of variations on the filter canister seal issue, all of which I?ve experienced: putting in the wrong O ring when more than one is provided; forgetting to put it in at all; and forgetting to take the old one out before putting n the new one. All result in a torrential oil leak! Peter Linn Brisbane From: Healeys On Behalf Of Jim Ryan via Healeys Sent: Friday, 21 October 2022 9:54 PM To: Ricchardd Mayor Cc: Ahealey help ; i erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak @Ricchardd Mayor. That is exactly what happened to me on my first oil change. I guess if you need to go for original for concours reasons one might keep that original system. I didn't so I went with the spin on conversion. On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:44 PM Ricchardd Mayor > wrote: I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil leak. Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs > wrote: Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check for leaks. I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the seal and tighten On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim > wrote: changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any other places to look? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Oct 21 07:40:17 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 14:40:17 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> Message-ID: <000001d8e552$a8c93ff0$fa5bbfd0$@alexarevel.plus.com> I had my Exxon Valdez moment when the rubber sealing ring in the original filter was not properly located. 60+/- psi and, of course, my not realizing what was going on?..messy. Luckily, I had to back out of the garage and walk over to open the gate. So at least I spotted the leak before I drove off. Years ago, in my student days, a fellow Healey owner?.. He had a girlfriend whose father was less permissive than she was. He, cunningly (he thought) parked his car at the crest of their drive so he could freewheel down the slight gradient until he was away from the house. So, come the dawn, he sneaks downstairs and does exactly that. But the drive had an electronically controlled gate with a kind of knuckle thing in the centre of the tarmac against which the gates would locate. This thing somehow knocked his sump nut off. He switched on, drove off, ran it dry and wrecked the engine. Hey ho. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael J Maloney via Healeys Sent: 21 October 2022 13:38 To: Stephen Hutchings Cc: Ahealey help ; i erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak My experience with massive oil leak occurred when I replaced original filter with a spin-off.The problem was at the engine block and the adapter for the spin off. I had to modify the adapter by filing a small notch in it,so that it fit flat against the block. Problem solved THEN the cleanup began! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Fri Oct 21 08:43:24 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:43:24 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <000001d8e552$a8c93ff0$fa5bbfd0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> <000001d8e552$a8c93ff0$fa5bbfd0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: " He had a girlfriend whose father was less permissive than she was." I can't wait to use THAT line in a conversation. On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:15 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I had my Exxon Valdez moment when the rubber sealing ring in the original > filter was not properly located. 60+/- psi and, of course, my not realizing > what was going on?..messy. Luckily, I had to back out of the garage and > walk over to open the gate. So at least I spotted the leak before I drove > off. > > > > Years ago, in my student days, a fellow Healey owner?.. He had a > girlfriend whose father was less permissive than she was. He, cunningly (he > thought) parked his car at the crest of their drive so he could freewheel > down the slight gradient until he was away from the house. So, come the > dawn, he sneaks downstairs and does exactly that. But the drive had an > electronically controlled gate with a kind of knuckle thing in the centre > of the tarmac against which the gates would locate. This thing somehow > knocked his sump nut off. He switched on, drove off, ran it dry and wrecked > the engine. Hey ho. > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael J > Maloney via Healeys > *Sent:* 21 October 2022 13:38 > *To:* Stephen Hutchings > *Cc:* Ahealey help ; i erbs > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak > > > > My experience with massive oil leak occurred when I replaced original > filter with a spin-off.The problem was at the engine block and the adapter > for the spin off. I had to modify the adapter by filing a small notch in > it,so that it fit flat against the block. Problem solved THEN the cleanup > began! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 10:15:14 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:15:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yup. Done them all On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 5:40 AM wrote: > ?.there?s a number of variations on the filter canister seal issue, all of > which I?ve experienced: putting in the wrong O ring when more than one is > provided; forgetting to put it in at all; and forgetting to take the old > one out before putting n the new one. All result in a torrential oil leak! > > > > Peter Linn > > Brisbane > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Jim Ryan > via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, 21 October 2022 9:54 PM > *To:* Ricchardd Mayor > *Cc:* Ahealey help ; i erbs > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak > > > > *@Ricchardd Mayor. That is exactly what happened to me on my first oil > change. I guess if you need to go for original for concours reasons one > might keep that original system. I didn't so I went with the spin on > conversion.* > > > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:44 PM Ricchardd Mayor > wrote: > > I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that > there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage > the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil > leak. > > > > > > Richard Mayor > boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > > On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs wrote: > > > > Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, > starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check > for leaks. > > I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have > slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the > seal and tighten > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim > wrote: > > changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed > lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more > of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out > bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. > assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any > other places to look? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > > > > -- > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 10:18:48 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:18:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> Message-ID: The leak as originally reported was between the engine and transmission and out of the hole in the bellhousing where the cotter pin lives. I don't see how a failure of the filter seal would lead to oil's migrating to the rear of the engine/transmission joint. I'm sticking with something that either broke or was displaced at the rear of the crank which is allowing the oil to get past it. Best--Michael OIritt On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 4:55 AM Jim Ryan via Healeys wrote: > @Ricchardd Mayor. That is exactly what happened to me on my first oil > change. I guess if you need to go for original for concours reasons one > might keep that original system. I didn't so I went with the spin on > conversion. > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:44 PM Ricchardd Mayor > wrote: > >> I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that >> there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage >> the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil >> leak. >> >> >> Richard Mayor >> boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> >> On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs wrote: >> >> Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, >> starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check >> for leaks. >> I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have >> slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the >> seal and tighten >> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim >> wrote: >> >>> changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed >>> lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more >>> of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out >>> bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. >>> assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any >>> other places to look? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> > > -- > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 10:25:45 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:25:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Perhaps we need to hear back from the original poster to better pinpoint the source of the leak. If in fact it is the engine/transmission joint I think that eliminates oil filter seal failure. Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 4:55 AM Jim Ryan via Healeys wrote: > @Ricchardd Mayor. That is exactly what happened to me on my first oil > change. I guess if you need to go for original for concours reasons one > might keep that original system. I didn't so I went with the spin on > conversion. > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:44 PM Ricchardd Mayor > wrote: > >> I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that >> there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage >> the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil >> leak. >> >> >> Richard Mayor >> boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> >> On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs wrote: >> >> Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, >> starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check >> for leaks. >> I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have >> slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the >> seal and tighten >> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim >> wrote: >> >>> changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed >>> lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more >>> of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out >>> bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. >>> assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any >>> other places to look? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> > > -- > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roggrace at telus.net Fri Oct 21 10:26:51 2022 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:26:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <000001d8e552$a8c93ff0$fa5bbfd0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> <000001d8e552$a8c93ff0$fa5bbfd0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: On 2 occasions on different AH cars with spin ons I had bad (not massive) oil leaks it that area. In both, it was leaking where the spin on adaptor attaches to the block with those allen head bolts. They had worked loose. The leaking oil was visible when idling from downstairs. It would be worth checking them for tightness when you have the filter off. rg On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 7:30 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I had my Exxon Valdez moment when the rubber sealing ring in the original > filter was not properly located. 60+/- psi and, of course, my not realizing > what was going on?..messy. Luckily, I had to back out of the garage and > walk over to open the gate. So at least I spotted the leak before I drove > off. > > > > Years ago, in my student days, a fellow Healey owner?.. He had a > girlfriend whose father was less permissive than she was. He, cunningly (he > thought) parked his car at the crest of their drive so he could freewheel > down the slight gradient until he was away from the house. So, come the > dawn, he sneaks downstairs and does exactly that. But the drive had an > electronically controlled gate with a kind of knuckle thing in the centre > of the tarmac against which the gates would locate. This thing somehow > knocked his sump nut off. He switched on, drove off, ran it dry and wrecked > the engine. Hey ho. > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael J > Maloney via Healeys > *Sent:* 21 October 2022 13:38 > *To:* Stephen Hutchings > *Cc:* Ahealey help ; i erbs > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak > > > > My experience with massive oil leak occurred when I replaced original > filter with a spin-off.The problem was at the engine block and the adapter > for the spin off. I had to modify the adapter by filing a small notch in > it,so that it fit flat against the block. Problem solved THEN the cleanup > began! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 10:50:03 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 12:50:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Off topic 110v motor wiring help Message-ID: I have purchased an old machine named a Kemsway Tire Conditioner. I'm overhauling it to hopefully use to shave tires on wire wheels. I have all the mechanical issues resolved but am stumped when it comes to rewiring the 110 volt single phase reversable cutter motor. Anyone out there who is knowledgeable on AC motor wiring who would be prepared to offer some assistance. M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 10:50:49 2022 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 12:50:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <022201d8e56d$46615710$d3240530$@gmail.com> The best way to find out where the oil is coming from is buy a UV light and oil additive. You will see the leak very quickly. Bob Begani From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 11:51 AM To: healeymanjim Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak I can't imagine that doing an oil change could be the cause of a sudden increase in leakage from the rear main however, I have had the same issue when the vent pipe to the rear air filter was dislodged and bent over blocking all air flow. Might be worth checking that the crankcase venting is working. M On Sat., Oct. 15, 2022, 3:55 p.m. healeymanjim, > wrote: changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any other places to look? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 12:05:32 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:05:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> Message-ID: The cotter pin could be interrupting to rearward flow of oil to make it appear it is a source. On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 9:19 AM Michael Oritt wrote: > The leak as originally reported was between the engine and transmission > and out of the hole in the bellhousing where the cotter pin lives. > I don't see how a failure of the filter seal would lead to oil's migrating > to the rear of the engine/transmission joint. > I'm sticking with something that either broke or was displaced at the rear > of the crank which is allowing the oil to get past it. > > Best--Michael OIritt > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 4:55 AM Jim Ryan via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> @Ricchardd Mayor. That is exactly what happened to me on my first oil >> change. I guess if you need to go for original for concours reasons one >> might keep that original system. I didn't so I went with the spin on >> conversion. >> >> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:44 PM Ricchardd Mayor >> wrote: >> >>> I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that >>> there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage >>> the sealing O ring to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil >>> leak. >>> >>> >>> Richard Mayor >>> boyracer466 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 4:49 PM, i erbs wrote: >>> >>> Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, >>> starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check >>> for leaks. >>> I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have >>> slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the >>> seal and tighten >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim >>> wrote: >>> >>>> changed oil in a club member's tri carb. went to get gas and noticed >>>> lots of oil under car. by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more >>>> of oil on a few mile drive. coming from rear of engine and coming out >>>> bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change. >>>> assume it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast? any >>>> other places to look? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> Jim Ryan >> >> ???? >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From einhornlawoffice at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 12:26:54 2022 From: einhornlawoffice at gmail.com (Jonathan Einhorn) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 14:26:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> <000001d8e552$a8c93ff0$fa5bbfd0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: The doctors have a saying: "When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras", meaning, look always look first for the simplest explanation. (also known as Occam's Razor). Its easy enough to get another gasket (if it's a canister), and try again. jon On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 2:12 PM Roger Grace via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > On 2 occasions on different AH cars with spin ons I had bad (not massive) > oil leaks it that area. > In both, it was leaking where the spin on adaptor attaches to the block > with those allen head bolts. > They had worked loose. > The leaking oil was visible when idling from downstairs. > It would be worth checking them for tightness when you have the filter off. > rg > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 7:30 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I had my Exxon Valdez moment when the rubber sealing ring in the original >> filter was not properly located. 60+/- psi and, of course, my not realizing >> what was going on?..messy. Luckily, I had to back out of the garage and >> walk over to open the gate. So at least I spotted the leak before I drove >> off. >> >> >> >> Years ago, in my student days, a fellow Healey owner?.. He had a >> girlfriend whose father was less permissive than she was. He, cunningly (he >> thought) parked his car at the crest of their drive so he could freewheel >> down the slight gradient until he was away from the house. So, come the >> dawn, he sneaks downstairs and does exactly that. But the drive had an >> electronically controlled gate with a kind of knuckle thing in the centre >> of the tarmac against which the gates would locate. This thing somehow >> knocked his sump nut off. He switched on, drove off, ran it dry and wrecked >> the engine. Hey ho. >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael >> J Maloney via Healeys >> *Sent:* 21 October 2022 13:38 >> *To:* Stephen Hutchings >> *Cc:* Ahealey help ; i erbs >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >> >> >> >> My experience with massive oil leak occurred when I replaced original >> filter with a spin-off.The problem was at the engine block and the adapter >> for the spin off. I had to modify the adapter by filing a small notch in >> it,so that it fit flat against the block. Problem solved THEN the cleanup >> began! >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/einhornlawoffice at gmail.com > > -- Jonathan J. Einhorn, Esq. 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URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Fri Oct 21 14:53:12 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 16:53:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> <000001d8e552$a8c93ff0$fa5bbfd0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: I second that. But I still think I'd go with the spin on oil filter. I had mine on that card for 40 years before I sold the car. I always had miscellaneous drips from places but never from the filter. On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 4:36 PM Jonathan Einhorn wrote: > The doctors have a saying: "When you hear hooves, think horses, not > zebras", meaning, look always look first for the simplest explanation. > (also known as Occam's Razor). Its easy enough to get another gasket (if > it's a canister), and try again. > > jon > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 2:12 PM Roger Grace via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> On 2 occasions on different AH cars with spin ons I had bad (not massive) >> oil leaks it that area. >> In both, it was leaking where the spin on adaptor attaches to the block >> with those allen head bolts. >> They had worked loose. >> The leaking oil was visible when idling from downstairs. >> It would be worth checking them for tightness when you have the filter >> off. >> rg >> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 7:30 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> I had my Exxon Valdez moment when the rubber sealing ring in the >>> original filter was not properly located. 60+/- psi and, of course, my not >>> realizing what was going on?..messy. Luckily, I had to back out of the >>> garage and walk over to open the gate. So at least I spotted the leak >>> before I drove off. >>> >>> >>> >>> Years ago, in my student days, a fellow Healey owner?.. He had a >>> girlfriend whose father was less permissive than she was. He, cunningly (he >>> thought) parked his car at the crest of their drive so he could freewheel >>> down the slight gradient until he was away from the house. So, come the >>> dawn, he sneaks downstairs and does exactly that. But the drive had an >>> electronically controlled gate with a kind of knuckle thing in the centre >>> of the tarmac against which the gates would locate. This thing somehow >>> knocked his sump nut off. He switched on, drove off, ran it dry and wrecked >>> the engine. Hey ho. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael >>> J Maloney via Healeys >>> *Sent:* 21 October 2022 13:38 >>> *To:* Stephen Hutchings >>> *Cc:* Ahealey help ; i erbs >> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >>> >>> >>> >>> My experience with massive oil leak occurred when I replaced original >>> filter with a spin-off.The problem was at the engine block and the adapter >>> for the spin off. I had to modify the adapter by filing a small notch in >>> it,so that it fit flat against the block. Problem solved THEN the cleanup >>> began! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/einhornlawoffice at gmail.com >> >> > > -- > Jonathan J. Einhorn, Esq. > Attorney & Counselor at Law > 129 Whitney Avenue > New Haven, CT. 06510 > tel: 203-777-3777 > einhornlawoffice at gmail.com > fax: 203-782-1721 > cell: 203-623-7373 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Fri Oct 21 15:20:18 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 14:20:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Intake/Exhaust gasket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob, Shiny side out. I will piggy back on your question and ask what is the recommended torque for the intake and exhaust manifold nuts assuming you can find a way to access with a torque wrench. Harold On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 2:09 PM Bob Haskell wrote: > Nomination for the dumb question of the week. > > The intake/exhaust gasket for the 6 cylinder engines has a shiny steel > side. Does that side go next to the head or the manifolds? I've always > put the steel side to the manifolds. > > No oil involved. :) > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri Oct 21 16:00:05 2022 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 22:00:05 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Intake/Exhaust gasket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was told that the shinny side towards the heat source. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2022, at 2:04 PM, Bob Haskell wrote: ? Nomination for the dumb question of the week. The intake/exhaust gasket for the 6 cylinder engines has a shiny steel side. Does that side go next to the head or the manifolds? I've always put the steel side to the manifolds. No oil involved. :) Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 21 17:49:24 2022 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock BCS) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 16:49:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Intake/Exhaust gasket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2E80286A7C394D80881B0A61EBD860DE@DavidNockHP> There isnt a specified torque for the intake manifold bolts David Nock British Car Specialists 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com From: Harold Manifold Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 2:20 PM To: Bob Haskell Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Intake/Exhaust gasket Bob, Shiny side out. I will piggy back on your question and ask what is the recommended torque for the intake and exhaust manifold nuts assuming you can find a way to access with a torque wrench. Harold On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 2:09 PM Bob Haskell wrote: Nomination for the dumb question of the week. The intake/exhaust gasket for the 6 cylinder engines has a shiny steel side. Does that side go next to the head or the manifolds? I've always put the steel side to the manifolds. 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URL: From wdavid890dd at aol.com Fri Oct 21 18:02:05 2022 From: wdavid890dd at aol.com (wdavid890dd at aol.com) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 00:02:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 15, Issue 302 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <253232682.1783310.1666396926271@mail.yahoo.com> Well?Tom don?t beat around the bush.? Via Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Sunday, October 9, 2022, 10:29 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote: Send Healeys mailing list submissions to ??? healeys at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? healeys-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? healeys-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 (E.A. Driver) ? 2. Re: Fw: 5 hr cruise in the Lanark Highlands admiring the ? ? ? colours! Lucky! (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) ? 3. Re: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 (KENNETH FLEMNG) ? 4. Re: Fw: 5 hr cruise in the Lanark Highlands admiring the ? ? ? colours! Lucky! (Perry Small) ? 5. Re: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 ? ? ? (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) ? 6. Re: Interior Insulation Kits? (Elton S) ? 7. Small parts (Ray Juncal) ? 8. Re: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 (Ray Juncal) ? 9. Shock Conversion (Charles Rice) ? 10. Re: Shock Conversion (John and Kerry Rowe) ? 11. Re: Small parts (Michael Salter) Hi Mirek You speak for yourself and a limited few not for all the individuals who are subscribers to the Healey list and either do not wish to comment or find Josef views quite acceptable and see not need to comment.? In reading Josef's post of October 7th (which appears at the bottom of this page) it is very concise and well stated.? Further, the individual driving the BN1/2 may have decided to avoid an accident but had not judged the verge of the road correctly (and all the related factors including his reflexes as an 82 year old person). Kind regards Ed E.A. Driver (former Historian and Director, AHCUSA) Saskatoon, Saskatchewan On 08/10/2022 08:57, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv9285146414 p.yiv9285146414MsoNormal, #yiv9285146414 li.yiv9285146414MsoNormal, #yiv9285146414 div.yiv9285146414MsoNormal {margin:0cm;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv9285146414 a:link, #yiv9285146414 span.yiv9285146414MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9285146414 pre {margin:0cm;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";}#yiv9285146414 span.yiv9285146414HTMLPreformattedChar {font-family:Consolas;}#yiv9285146414 span.yiv9285146414y2iqfc {}#yiv9285146414 span.yiv9285146414EmailStyle23 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv9285146414 .yiv9285146414MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv9285146414 div.yiv9285146414WordSection1 {} Guys, let it be.? Josef has been clear on how he feels and we have collectively told him what we think of his opinions.? There will be no changing his mind, so lets accept that he lives by a different moral code that none of us (at least those that posted replies), agree with, and get back to using the list for providing mutual support to keep our Healeys on the road. ? Cheers, Mirek ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Tom Felts via Healeys Sent: October 8, 2022 6:18 AM To: Gil Rockwell Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 ? I haven't!!? But this will be MY last comment about this.? Josef YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASS HOLE!? Admin---delete me if you want, but there are times to say exactly what is needed to be said. ? Tom ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys To: josef-eckert at t-online.de, healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 22:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 ? ? ? @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Consolas; panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;} ? p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} pre {mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted Char"; margin:0in; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New";} span.HTMLPreformattedChar {mso-style-name:"HTML Preformatted Char"; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted"; font-family:Consolas;} span.y2iqfc {mso-style-name:y2iqfc;} span.EmailStyle24 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:windowtext;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --> I?ve said enough, you don?t seem to get it, so I am ending this conversation. ? Gil ? From: josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 9:43 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: gilrockwell at gmail.com Subject: WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 ? ? So it isn?t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth? Is that the world you are living? But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of his vehicle while driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself and his wife in an accident. Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided with another road user which can be very likely and this would have been injured or killed. The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the person who caused the accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated and the driver's license would have been withdrawn forever. No mercy! The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not have been happy with his life anymore. Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation. It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit to such a danger. I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well, as is customary in Italy. ? Josef 54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars ? ? ? -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "healeyrik at gmail.com" , "'Forum Healey'" ? ? ? In a polite society if you don?t have anything positive to say, just be quiet,? your negative comments help no one.? Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand. ? ? Gil ? 61 BT7 ? From:josef-eckert at t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM To: Gil Rockwell ; healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: AW: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 ? Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion. We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other.. ? ? ? -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: RE: [Healey?s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200 Von: "Gil Rockwell" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" , "healeyrik at gmail.com" , "'Forum Healey'" ? ? ? Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all.? What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. ? Gil 61 BT7 ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM To:healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 ? I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. ? Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. ? Josef Eckert K?nigswinter GERMANY ? ? ? Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App ? ? ? --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: HealeyRick via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 An: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List ? I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident.? She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now:?https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux ? Rick Neville ? On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys wrote: ? Awful.? ? https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/ ? Randy ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 ? Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys ? Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys ? Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com ? | | Virus-free.www.avast.com | ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/edriver at sasktel.net Dare we ask how old?s your sister? Simon ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Dr C A Rubino via Healeys Sent: 08 October 2022 17:47 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Fw: 5 hr cruise in the Lanark Highlands admiring the colours! Lucky! ? My sister took this pic on an annual 5 hr cruise in eastern ontario to view the leaves changing colour. ? ? ? ? ? I second that Michael and Sarah!!. <=div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone On Oct 8, 2022, at 4:26 PM, Michael Salter wrote: =EF=BB=BFHear, hear Sarah....=F0=9F=91=8D= On Sat.=, Oct. 8, 2022, 1:36 p.m. S.Carr via Healeys, wrote: This List was begun as a source of help for the care and fe=eding of our Austin-Healeys.? Please, let us return to that original in=tent! Sarah Carr Ex-BN1 i=n PA ? Sent from Mail for Windows ______=_________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healey=s Unsubscribe/Manage: ht=tp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Suppor=t Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual d=onation ?$12.75 Archive: http://www.te=am.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team=.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/M=anage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahmg at aol.com = =Trees are starting to change color here in western Pennsylvania. A little cooler but a nice change. Good time for a top down cruise.?Perry Sent from my iPhone On Oct 8, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Dr C A Rubino via Healeys wrote: ?My sister took this pic on an annual 5 hr cruise in eastern ontario to view the leaves changing colour. ? ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com Hello ? I wasn?t going to comment, but have had a change of mind. ? After being a member of this list for close to 30 years for the first time I considered chucking it in. I do not share Josef?s opinion. ? We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state them without fear or favour. There are also ways and places of passing on opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. What I have seen here over the last few days simply shocked me and I am of the belief that it?s time to move on. ? Hoo Roo ? Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2022 4:43 AM To: S.Carr Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 ? Hear, hear Sarah....? ? On Sat., Oct. 8, 2022, 1:36 p.m. S.Carr via Healeys, wrote: This List was begun as a source of help for the care and feeding of our Austin-Healeys.? Please, let us return to that original intent! Sarah Carr Ex-BN1 in PA ? Sent from Mail for Windows _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com | | Virus-free.www.avast.com | I used a sheet of Dynaliner insulation, 32"x54"x1/4" thick and Eastwood's thermacoustic alum/adhesive under it for the floor boards and tunnel cover. Very happy with it.Elton, BJ7 On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 9:57 AM HealeyRick wrote: Does anyone have any recommendations from personal experience for a good interior (BJ7) insulation kit? More concerned with heat insulation than sound. What have you used and liked? Thanks,Rick Neville_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com Anyone out there have one of these that they would be willing to part with? Not sure what to call it but it's the trim cap on the O.D. toggle switch. Details, details, details. Thanks Ray Well put Patrick. Are we all that old and crabby with nothing better to do?Ray On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 08:50:52 PM PDT, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: Hello ? I wasn?t going to comment, but have had a change of mind. ? After being a member of this list for close to 30 years for the first time I considered chucking it in. I do not share Josef?s opinion. ? We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state them without fear or favour. There are also ways and places of passing on opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. What I have seen here over the last few days simply shocked me and I am of the belief that it?s time to move on. ? Hoo Roo ? Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2022 4:43 AM To: S.Carr Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 ? Hear, hear Sarah....? ? On Sat., Oct. 8, 2022, 1:36 p.m. S.Carr via Healeys, wrote: This List was begun as a source of help for the care and feeding of our Austin-Healeys.? Please, let us return to that original intent! Sarah Carr Ex-BN1 in PA ? Sent from Mail for Windows _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com | | Virus-free.www.avast.com | _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com Advice/Opinions please on fitiing ?Putzke?s Faharpass? shock conversion kit on my BN2, vs. having my originals lever shocks rebuilt. Thanks ? Chappy Rice | | Virus-free.www.avast.com | I have it and like it. I can?t comment as to cost comparison to rebuild. Ride and handling is beautiful. 1959 bt7 John Rowe. Qld Australia? Advice/Opinions please on fitiing ?Putzke?s Faharpass? shock conversion kit on my BN2, vs. having my originals lever shocks rebuilt.at Thanks ? Chappy Rice | | Virus-free.www.avast.com | _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtkarowe at gmail.com I have never seen one of those before Ray. Is it an original part?Certainly a vast?improvement over the bare nut. M On Sun., Oct. 9, 2022, 1:11 a.m. Ray Juncal via Healeys, wrote: Anyone out there have one of these that they would be willing to part with? Not sure what to call it but it's the trim cap on the O.D. toggle switch. Details, details, details. Thanks Ray _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys mailing list Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys archives:? http://autox.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 10/21/22 6:00 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > I was told that the shinny side towards the heat source. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 21, 2022, at 2:04 PM, Bob Haskell wrote: >> >> ? Nomination for the dumb question of the week. >> >> The intake/exhaust gasket for the 6 cylinder engines has a shiny >> steel side.? Does that side go next to the head or the manifolds?? >> I've always put the steel side to the manifolds. >> >> No oil involved. :) >> Cheers, >> >> Bob Haskell >> Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com >> From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 18:37:28 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 17:37:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <20221015182005.46150.qmail@server278.com> <1D5C7147-6D21-48B6-99E7-E10431D6FBD2@gmail.com> <2CDB8836-7055-4675-9008-CACB001B261A@rogers.com> <000001d8e552$a8c93ff0$fa5bbfd0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Agreed On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 3:42 PM Jim Ryan wrote: > I second that. But I still think I'd go with the spin on oil filter. I > had mine on that card for 40 years before I sold the car. I always had > miscellaneous drips from places but never from the filter. > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 4:36 PM Jonathan Einhorn > wrote: > >> The doctors have a saying: "When you hear hooves, think horses, not >> zebras", meaning, look always look first for the simplest explanation. >> (also known as Occam's Razor). Its easy enough to get another gasket (if >> it's a canister), and try again. >> >> jon >> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 2:12 PM Roger Grace via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> On 2 occasions on different AH cars with spin ons I had bad (not >>> massive) oil leaks it that area. >>> In both, it was leaking where the spin on adaptor attaches to the block >>> with those allen head bolts. >>> They had worked loose. >>> The leaking oil was visible when idling from downstairs. >>> It would be worth checking them for tightness when you have the filter >>> off. >>> rg >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 7:30 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I had my Exxon Valdez moment when the rubber sealing ring in the >>>> original filter was not properly located. 60+/- psi and, of course, my not >>>> realizing what was going on?..messy. Luckily, I had to back out of the >>>> garage and walk over to open the gate. So at least I spotted the leak >>>> before I drove off. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Years ago, in my student days, a fellow Healey owner?.. He had a >>>> girlfriend whose father was less permissive than she was. He, cunningly (he >>>> thought) parked his car at the crest of their drive so he could freewheel >>>> down the slight gradient until he was away from the house. So, come the >>>> dawn, he sneaks downstairs and does exactly that. But the drive had an >>>> electronically controlled gate with a kind of knuckle thing in the centre >>>> of the tarmac against which the gates would locate. This thing somehow >>>> knocked his sump nut off. He switched on, drove off, ran it dry and wrecked >>>> the engine. Hey ho. >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael >>>> J Maloney via Healeys >>>> *Sent:* 21 October 2022 13:38 >>>> *To:* Stephen Hutchings >>>> *Cc:* Ahealey help ; i erbs < >>>> eyera3000 at gmail.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My experience with massive oil leak occurred when I replaced original >>>> filter with a spin-off.The problem was at the engine block and the adapter >>>> for the spin off. I had to modify the adapter by filing a small notch in >>>> it,so that it fit flat against the block. Problem solved THEN the cleanup >>>> began! >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/einhornlawoffice at gmail.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Jonathan J. 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The shipping rates also seem?very high. > > Fred > From michael.oritt at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 20:43:11 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 19:43:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Intake/Exhaust gasket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: According to Felpro the smooth side of the exhaust gasket goes against the cylinder head, which makes perfect sense in that it is a smooth machined surface whereas the inside of the manifold flange is a rough casting. Smooth to smooth and rough to rough.... Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 6:34 PM Bob Haskell wrote: > The primary heat source is the combustion chamber. But you're also > trying to prevent heat from the exhaust manifold from going back to the > cylinder head. > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > > On 10/21/22 6:00 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > > I was told that the shinny side towards the heat source. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Oct 21, 2022, at 2:04 PM, Bob Haskell > wrote: > >> > >> ? Nomination for the dumb question of the week. > >> > >> The intake/exhaust gasket for the 6 cylinder engines has a shiny > >> steel side. Does that side go next to the head or the manifolds? > >> I've always put the steel side to the manifolds. > >> > >> No oil involved. :) > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Bob Haskell > >> Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > >> > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >> > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 92 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sat Oct 22 08:05:58 2022 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 10:05:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] torque settings In-Reply-To: <000701d8e613$6ea2a6b0$4be7f410$@verizon.net> References: <000701d8e613$6ea2a6b0$4be7f410$.ref@verizon.net> <000701d8e613$6ea2a6b0$4be7f410$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5ca4a93b-e95c-f8dd-111f-96c4c021d90b@earthlink.net> John, Front section in the workshop manuals. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 10/22/22 8:40 AM, ahbn6--- via Healeys wrote: > > ** > > *Anyone know where I can find the torque settings for Healeys. Want to > post them on my site and answer a listers question* > > *John Sims* > > *www.healey6.com * > > *Matawan, NJ* > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From rianhey at btinternet.com Sat Oct 22 09:53:49 2022 From: rianhey at btinternet.com (Ian Hey) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 16:53:49 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Torque settings Message-ID: <000501d8e62e$7a2f3d70$6e8db850$@btinternet.com> Attached is a spreadsheet which I made for AH 3000 torques. Haynes manual is a UK published workshop manual - I do not know whether they are sold in the USA Ian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Harold On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 9:35 PM Michael Oritt wrote: > According to Felpro the smooth side of the exhaust gasket goes against the > cylinder head, which makes perfect sense in that it is a smooth machined > surface whereas the inside of the manifold flange is a rough casting. > Smooth to smooth and rough to rough.... > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 6:34 PM Bob Haskell > wrote: > >> The primary heat source is the combustion chamber. But you're also >> trying to prevent heat from the exhaust manifold from going back to the >> cylinder head. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bob Haskell >> Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar >> >> On 10/21/22 6:00 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: >> > I was told that the shinny side towards the heat source. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On Oct 21, 2022, at 2:04 PM, Bob Haskell >> wrote: >> >> >> >> ? Nomination for the dumb question of the week. >> >> >> >> The intake/exhaust gasket for the 6 cylinder engines has a shiny >> >> steel side. Does that side go next to the head or the manifolds? >> >> I've always put the steel side to the manifolds. >> >> >> >> No oil involved. :) >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Bob Haskell >> >> Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Does it make sense to > > buy things from England now? The shipping rates also seem very high. > > > > Fred > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey53 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Oct 22 13:35:07 2022 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 12:35:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?massive_oil_leak?= Message-ID: <20221022193507.54264.qmail@server278.com> car has a spin on filter and it is not leaking from there. put car on jackstands and started engine. oil is only coming from motor/trans plate and hole in bellhousing. having trouble understanding how so much oil can get past rear bearing even if totally worn, which it is not. checked all breathing areas and no pressure buildup. could a crack between oil gallery and bearing area be problem? none visible from underneath bearing cap> From ryan at jimryan.com Sat Oct 22 15:40:36 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 17:40:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Exchange rate In-Reply-To: References: <7f15cd9a-c662-04f8-3f2d-062985d2adc6@comcast.net> Message-ID: I don't know about underfelt, is it the same was this? https://tinyurl.com/297cuzga On Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 4:27 PM Joseph Costa via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I tried to buy some carpet underfelt from Woolies a few weeks ago and they > wanted $100 just to ship it. I then added to the order figuring I get as > much as possible in the box, basically small pieces. The cost of shipping > increased by 50%. I decided to hell with it. > > Joe #923 > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 12:11 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > >> >> https://www.google.com/search?q=pound+to+dollar&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#cobssid=s >> >> Presumably, shipping costs are down with the pound. >> >> >> On 10/21/2022 1:29 PM, Fred Wescoe via Healeys wrote: >> > I can't seem to find the exchange rate (duh). Does it make sense to >> > buy things from England now? The shipping rates also seem very high. >> > >> > Fred >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey53 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 15:51:11 2022 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 17:51:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <20221022193507.54264.qmail@server278.com> References: <20221022193507.54264.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <00fc01d8e660$66a86330$33f92990$@gmail.com> Jim: You may recall my problem of massive oil leak after rebuilding the engine then driving 1,000 miles. I installed a diaper pan under the bell housing, a vacuum tubing to the intake manifold to suck up the oil while continuing to drive the car another 1,000 miles. Finally, I pulled the transmission/bellhousing and looked at the condition of the gasket and rear bearing outside seal which showed no signs of leaking. This time I used the right stuff Permatex sealant all around the motor/trans plate especially around the camshaft opening and applied a new flimsy gasket we get for this job. Then applied right stuff on the paper gasket all around every potential opening including the camshaft opening and reinstalled the transmission/bellhousing with being certain to torque all bolts in a crisscross manner. Finally, I used the UV light kit and added the UV solution to the engine. I have been running the engine on the lift and have found a small amount of colored oil coming from the motor/trans plate. So, I will add an addition to the diaper pan to catch that oil and begin drive the car. I can live with a small amount of oil. By the way, I installed an Oil Catcher whereby the vacuum from the intake manifold draws the oil from the diaper pan into the catcher. Except, I do not see any oil in the container. Now that I am back in Florida where the BJ8 resides in the summer, I will finish getting her back on the road and see how much oil will be dripping at road speeds. When did you pull your trans and or your engine which could have caused the massive oil leak as I experienced? Bob Begani -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of healeymanjim via Healeys Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 3:35 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak car has a spin on filter and it is not leaking from there. put car on jackstands and started engine. oil is only coming from motor/trans plate and hole in bellhousing. having trouble understanding how so much oil can get past rear bearing even if totally worn, which it is not. checked all breathing areas and no pressure buildup. could a crack between oil gallery and bearing area be problem? none visible from underneath bearing cap> _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rfbegani at gmail.com From manifold at telus.net Sat Oct 22 16:00:27 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 15:00:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: <20221022193507.54264.qmail@server278.com> References: <20221022193507.54264.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Are you sure it is engine oil and not gear oil? Given the leak is high in volume and started suddenly I would suggest these are the suspects in order. Oil gallery plug has come loose. The Gasket at the rear of the camshaft has failed. The main rear bearing. I attached a picture of the rear of the block without the back plate. Harold On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 1:58 PM healeymanjim via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > car has a spin on filter and it is not leaking from there. put car on > jackstands and started engine. oil is only coming from motor/trans plate > and hole in bellhousing. having trouble understanding how so much oil can > get past rear bearing even if totally worn, which it is not. checked all > breathing areas and no pressure buildup. could a crack between oil gallery > and bearing area be problem? none visible from underneath bearing cap> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 10/22/2022 12:35 PM, healeymanjim via Healeys wrote: > car has a spin on filter and it is not leaking from there. put car on jackstands and started engine. oil is only coming from motor/trans plate and hole in bellhousing. having trouble understanding how so much oil can get past rear bearing even if totally worn, which it is not. checked all breathing areas and no pressure buildup. could a crack between oil gallery and bearing area be problem? none visible from underneath bearing cap> > From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 16:19:56 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 18:19:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Torque settings In-Reply-To: References: <000501d8e62e$7a2f3d70$6e8db850$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Far be it for me to doubt the "Word of Haynes" but ... I would suggest that 70 lb ft for the starter dog nut is woefully insufficient. I have seen many 6 cylinder cranks ruined as a consequence of that nut coming loose. I would suggest something more like 150 lb ft at least. I use a slugging wrench and 2 lb mallet. M On Sat., Oct. 22, 2022, 3:03 p.m. Harold Manifold, wrote: > For torque values not listed in the manuals I used this sheet. > Harold > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 9:03 AM Ian Hey via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Attached is a spreadsheet which I made for AH 3000 torques. Haynes >> manual is a UK published workshop manual ? I do not know whether they are >> sold in the USA >> >> >> >> Ian >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Sat Oct 22 17:35:06 2022 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 23:35:06 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Exchange rate In-Reply-To: References: <7f15cd9a-c662-04f8-3f2d-062985d2adc6@comcast.net> Message-ID: Jim, No it is not. One place I know of in the USA where you can get it or at least used to is Restoration Specialties in Pennsylvania. Jean Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Jim Ryan Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:40:36 PM To: Joseph Costa Cc: List Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exchange rate I don't know about underfelt, is it the same was this? https://tinyurl.com/297cuzga On Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 4:27 PM Joseph Costa via Healeys > wrote: I tried to buy some carpet underfelt from Woolies a few weeks ago and they wanted $100 just to ship it. I then added to the order figuring I get as much as possible in the box, basically small pieces. The cost of shipping increased by 50%. I decided to hell with it. Joe #923 On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 12:11 AM Bob Spidell > wrote: https://www.google.com/search?q=pound+to+dollar&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#cobssid=s Presumably, shipping costs are down with the pound. On 10/21/2022 1:29 PM, Fred Wescoe via Healeys wrote: > I can't seem to find the exchange rate (duh). Does it make sense to > buy things from England now? The shipping rates also seem very high. > > Fred > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey53 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sat Oct 22 20:14:58 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 22:14:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Massive oil leak References: Message-ID: So it would appear from the follow up inspections that the oil loss is coming from the connection between the rear of the engine block and the rear back plate. That connection has the the main block to plate gasket and the small rectangular gasket strip along the rear bear cap. There are two cylindrical gasket plugs that slide in the groove between the side of the rear bearing cap and the block. That should seal the connection. It would seem like a damaged rear bearing on the cam or crank would not be the cause of the leak for the volume that was reported but it would place the oil outside the crankcase. Still scratching my bald head?.. Perry Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It would seem like a damaged rear bearing on the cam or crank would not be the cause of the leak for the volume that was reported but it would place the oil outside the crankcase. Still scratching my bald head?.. Perry Sent from my iPhone From austin.healey at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 01:47:31 2022 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 18:47:31 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Massive oil loss In-Reply-To: <3153AE75-D93A-453E-B1FD-4D8EBA13F895@aol.com> References: <3153AE75-D93A-453E-B1FD-4D8EBA13F895@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Perry, I?ve held off posting this, because I hoped you?d find an easier answer, but I?ve seen this huge oil leak issue on both 1100 Sprite blocks and Healey 3000. Your worst case scenario is a cracked rear main cap. Drop the sump and have a close look. Best Chris > On 23 Oct 2022, at 3:47 pm, Perry Small via Healeys wrote: > > ?So it would appear from the follow up inspections that the oil loss is coming from the connection between the rear of the engine block and the rear back plate. That connection has the the main block to plate gasket and the small rectangular gasket strip along the rear bear cap. There are two cylindrical gasket plugs that slide in the groove between the side of the rear bearing cap and the block. That should seal the connection. It would seem like a damaged rear bearing on the cam or crank would not be the cause of the leak for the volume that was reported but it would place the oil outside the crankcase. > Still scratching my bald head?.. > Perry > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com > From bjcap at optonline.net Sun Oct 23 06:05:10 2022 From: bjcap at optonline.net (bjcap at optonline.net) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 12:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] massive oil leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6d7d271f.4ec5.18404bb8b7d.Webtop.159@optimum.net> Ive seen many oil leaks from just not cleaning the old O Ring gasket out completely. Its a PIA to do this on the original set up. A lot of folks leave the o ring in for a few changes and it gets really brittle and can leave bits of the gasket clung to the housing causing a leak when the new gasket cannot lay flat to seal the canister. PS please DO NOT spray Brake cleaner on your engine to clean off the oil, you WILL be repainting your engine where you sprayed it . The stuff will crinkle paint off in a heartbeat. In fact thats exactly what I use to prep a block for paint as a final check for bits of left over paint. Spray it good and wet , then use a blow gun to blast off the dried up paint bits in the nooks and crannies areas. Carroll Phillips TopDown Restorations Inc. From eyera3000 at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 08:43:25 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 07:43:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Exchange rate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll look for the contact i for I have for a third party shipper who will pick and ship for less. Just tell the supplier you will arrange shipping On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 3:14 PM Fred Wescoe via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I can't seem to find the exchange rate (duh). Does it make sense to buy > things from England now? The shipping rates also seem very high. > > Fred > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Joe On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 11:07 AM i erbs wrote: > I'll look for the contact i for I have for a third party shipper who will > pick and ship for less. Just tell the supplier you will arrange shipping > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 3:14 PM Fred Wescoe via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I can't seem to find the exchange rate (duh). Does it make sense to buy >> things from England now? The shipping rates also seem very high. >> >> Fred >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey53 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On the Derrington it is on the side opposite the driver. > When the steering wheel is correctly installed one spoke is a 12:OO & the other 2 will be at 4:00 & 8:00. > Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/satkinson1974 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_1682.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 781023 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.png Type: image/png Size: 3543852 bytes Desc: not available URL: From airtightproductions at me.com Mon Oct 24 22:19:49 2022 From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 04:19:49 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Derrington steering wheel In-Reply-To: <4646D55F-F56B-408E-AB49-D8EC6626E163@gmail.com> References: <2048044036.74392.1666649884680@mail.yahoo.com> <4646D55F-F56B-408E-AB49-D8EC6626E163@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c3b75e6-230f-4e28-aa03-13fb356616dd@me.com> Just ok? Not a beautiful wheel? Just ok? I ask because I'm thinking of getting one and if it's just ok, I might just stick with the Moto-Lito I have and not get the evenly spaced wheel. I was hoping the evenly spaced would give me better vision on the tach and speedo while still looking great. Maybe the ok is because it's so dark? How's the craftmanship?Steven KingsburyBN1On Oct 24, 2022, at 6:02 PM, Simon Atkinson wrote:I have one. It?s okSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 24, 2022, at 7:21 PM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote:? Alan,Has anyone suggested Moto Lita steering wheels in the U.K.?Here are 2 links to the style steering wheel you ask about.https://www.moto-lita.co.uk/steering-wheels/classic-three-wood-rim-flat/https://www.moto-lita.co.uk/steering-wheels/derrington-3-equal-spokes/As far as I can tell, the only difference between them is that the name "Moto Lita" is not on one of the spokes on the driver's side of the wheel. On the Derrington it is on the side opposite the driver.?When the steering wheel is correctly installed one spoke is a 12:OO & the other 2 will be at 4:00 & 8:00.Gary Hodson_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation ?$12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/satkinson1974 at gmail.com_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Tue Oct 25 03:01:43 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 10:01:43 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Derrington steering wheel In-Reply-To: <1c3b75e6-230f-4e28-aa03-13fb356616dd@me.com> References: <2048044036.74392.1666649884680@mail.yahoo.com> <4646D55F-F56B-408E-AB49-D8EC6626E163@gmail.com> <1c3b75e6-230f-4e28-aa03-13fb356616dd@me.com> Message-ID: <000001d8e850$68219a50$3864cef0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Well, I?ve got one. See attached. ?OK? does sum it all up quite succinctly but is a little short on detail! I bought it because the original was falling to pieces and, at the time, I didn?t trust the quality of the replacements or my chances of making a lasting repair. As to quality??it?s lasted well. I don?t use the car everyday but it gets used frequently and that wheel has a good few thousands of miles on it. It?s held up well. As to the intrinsic craftsmanship, I?d say it?s pretty good. I?ve not studied the alternatives but, I?d say, this one would stand up well in any company. As to appearance, I like it but, of course, I?m used to it now. (+/- 25 years). People do admire it when the car?s parked up somewhere like, say, a pub car park. So, I suppose it?s generally deemed to be a handsome thing. As to efficacy, I can see the speedo & tacho pretty well. Can?t recall if I?m seeing them better than through the original. In fact, I spend more time looking at the oil pressure/temperature gauge than the others. This being purely because my speedo has always been way off and the tacho even worse, if that were possible. I?ve just had the speedo back from calibration/restoration and expect the tacho back today. (You can detect its absence in the pics.) Anyhow, now I?ll be looking at those two a little more! As to price, well they?re not cheap are they? I paid a lot less but that?s down to inflation isn?t it? ?You gets wot you pays for,? as they say. A very nice wheel which will last you for as long as you keep the car??..in my opinion. Our politicians have shot the pound to s**t so you?d get a decent rate on the dollar. If that?s where you?re coming from. I use:- Parcel Delivery & Courier Services | Send a Parcel | Parcel2Go Never used them internationally but don?t see why not. Bound to be cheaper than the suppliers designated thieves. Hope this helps. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Steven Kingsbury via Healeys Sent: 25 October 2022 05:20 To: Simon Atkinson Cc: alanwassermannc at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Derrington steering wheel Just ok? Not a beautiful wheel? Just ok? I ask because I'm thinking of getting one and if it's just ok, I might just stick with the Moto-Lito I have and not get the evenly spaced wheel. I was hoping the evenly spaced would give me better vision on the tach and speedo while still looking great. Maybe the ok is because it's so dark? How's the craftmanship? Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Oct 24, 2022, at 6:02 PM, Simon Atkinson > wrote: I have one. It?s ok -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0282.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 685113 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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See attached. ?OK? does sum it all up quite succinctly > but is a little short on detail! > > I bought it because the original was falling to pieces and, at the time, I > didn?t trust the quality of the replacements or my chances of making a > lasting repair. > > > > As to quality??it?s lasted well. I don?t use the car everyday but it gets > used frequently and that wheel has a good few thousands of miles on it. > It?s held up well. > > > > As to the intrinsic craftsmanship, I?d say it?s pretty good. I?ve not > studied the alternatives but, I?d say, this one would stand up well in any > company. > > > > As to appearance, I like it but, of course, I?m used to it now. (+/- 25 > years). People do admire it when the car?s parked up somewhere like, say, a > pub car park. So, I suppose it?s generally deemed to be a handsome thing. > > > > As to efficacy, I can see the speedo & tacho pretty well. Can?t recall if > I?m seeing them better than through the original. In fact, I spend more > time looking at the oil pressure/temperature gauge than the others. This > being purely because my speedo has always been way off and the tacho even > worse, if that were possible. I?ve just had the speedo back from > calibration/restoration and expect the tacho back today. (You can detect > its absence in the pics.) Anyhow, now I?ll be looking at those two a little > more! > > > > As to price, well they?re not cheap are they? I paid a lot less but that?s > down to inflation isn?t it? ?You gets wot you pays for,? as they say. A > very nice wheel which will last you for as long as you keep the car??..in > my opinion. > > Our politicians have shot the pound to s**t so you?d get a decent rate on > the dollar. If that?s where you?re coming from. I use:- > > Parcel Delivery & Courier Services | Send a Parcel | Parcel2Go > > > Never used them internationally but don?t see why not. Bound to be cheaper > than the suppliers designated thieves. > > > > Hope this helps. > > Simon > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Steven > Kingsbury via Healeys > *Sent:* 25 October 2022 05:20 > *To:* Simon Atkinson > *Cc:* alanwassermannc at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Derrington steering wheel > > > > Just ok? Not a beautiful wheel? Just ok? I ask because I'm thinking of > getting one and if it's just ok, I might just stick with the Moto-Lito I > have and not get the evenly spaced wheel. I was hoping the evenly spaced > would give me better vision on the tach and speedo while still looking > great. Maybe the ok is because it's so dark? How's the craftmanship? > > Steven Kingsbury > > BN1 > > > > On Oct 24, 2022, at 6:02 PM, Simon Atkinson > wrote: > > > > > > I have one. It?s ok > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 08:41:25 2022 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 07:41:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In-Reply-To: <521603807.1889496.1666439755424@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5c0101d8e588$c4c49480$4e4dbd80$@gmail.com> <521603807.1889496.1666439755424@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <05d301d8e87f$dc374550$94a5cff0$@gmail.com> Michael: I haven?t gotten much response on the shop talk list, but this seems helpful: ?I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which.? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: DAVID MASSEY Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:56 AM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com; Shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which. Dave -----Original Message----- From: alfuller194 at gmail.com To: Shop-talk at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2022 3:07 pm Subject: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring Posting for a friend: I have purchased an old machine named a Kemsway Tire Conditioner. I'm overhauling it to hopefully use to shave tires on wire wheels. I have all the mechanical issues resolved but am stumped when it comes to rewiring the 110 volt single phase reversable cutter motor. Anyone out there who is knowledgeable on AC motor wiring who would be prepared to offer some assistance. ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 08:58:39 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 10:58:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In-Reply-To: <05d301d8e87f$dc374550$94a5cff0$@gmail.com> References: <5c0101d8e588$c4c49480$4e4dbd80$@gmail.com> <521603807.1889496.1666439755424@mail.yahoo.com> <05d301d8e87f$dc374550$94a5cff0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you all who responded to my request for help. With guidance from several and in particular Oliver Viitamaki I have managed to figure out the wiring and the machine is running beautifully. M On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 10:41 a.m. , wrote: > Michael: I haven?t gotten much response on the shop talk list, but this > seems helpful: > > > > ?I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor > is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One > is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor > connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make > the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will > make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on > the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which.? > > > > > > ---------------- > > All the best, > > > > Al Fuller > > > > *From:* DAVID MASSEY > *Sent:* Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:56 AM > *To:* alfuller194 at gmail.com; Shop-talk at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > > > > I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor > is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One > is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor > connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make > the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will > make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on > the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: alfuller194 at gmail.com > To: Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2022 3:07 pm > Subject: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > > Posting for a friend: > > > > I have purchased an old machine named a Kemsway Tire Conditioner. > > I'm overhauling it to hopefully use to shave tires on wire wheels. > > I have all the mechanical issues resolved but am stumped when it comes to > rewiring the 110 volt single phase reversable cutter motor. > > Anyone out there who is knowledgeable on AC motor wiring who would be > prepared to offer some assistance. > > > > > > ---------------- > > All the best, > > > > Al Fuller > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Tue Oct 25 09:18:51 2022 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 09:18:51 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In-Reply-To: <05d301d8e87f$dc374550$94a5cff0$@gmail.com> References: <5c0101d8e588$c4c49480$4e4dbd80$@gmail.com> <521603807.1889496.1666439755424@mail.yahoo.com> <05d301d8e87f$dc374550$94a5cff0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <27bfcfe0-1abe-e543-903c-116046ca7741@bradakis.com> On 10/25/22 8:41 AM, alfuller194 at gmail.com wrote: > > Michael:? I haven?t gotten much response on the shop talk list, but > this seems helpful: > > ?I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC > motor is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. > > I would think he meant SPDT switch.? A single throw switch would not have a "center off" position, but a double throw could have. mjb. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 09:19:02 2022 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 08:19:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In-Reply-To: References: <5c0101d8e588$c4c49480$4e4dbd80$@gmail.com> <521603807.1889496.1666439755424@mail.yahoo.com> <05d301d8e87f$dc374550$94a5cff0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <072d01d8e885$1e068db0$5a13a910$@gmail.com> Great! Inquiring minds want to know ? what did you need to do? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 7:59 AM To: Al Fuller Cc: Austin Healey Subject: Re: FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring Thank you all who responded to my request for help. With guidance from several and in particular Oliver Viitamaki I have managed to figure out the wiring and the machine is running beautifully. M On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 10:41 a.m. , > wrote: Michael: I haven?t gotten much response on the shop talk list, but this seems helpful: ?I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which.? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: DAVID MASSEY > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:56 AM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com ; Shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which. Dave -----Original Message----- From: alfuller194 at gmail.com To: Shop-talk at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2022 3:07 pm Subject: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring Posting for a friend: I have purchased an old machine named a Kemsway Tire Conditioner. I'm overhauling it to hopefully use to shave tires on wire wheels. I have all the mechanical issues resolved but am stumped when it comes to rewiring the 110 volt single phase reversable cutter motor. Anyone out there who is knowledgeable on AC motor wiring who would be prepared to offer some assistance. ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 12:08:59 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 14:08:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In-Reply-To: <072d01d8e885$1e068db0$5a13a910$@gmail.com> References: <5c0101d8e588$c4c49480$4e4dbd80$@gmail.com> <521603807.1889496.1666439755424@mail.yahoo.com> <05d301d8e87f$dc374550$94a5cff0$@gmail.com> <072d01d8e885$1e068db0$5a13a910$@gmail.com> Message-ID: In my continuing efforts to remove the last traces of scuttle shake whilst retaining my original flat center wire wheels I have acquired a Kemsway Tire Conditioner that is about 60 years old but was state of the art for tire shaving in its day. I've spent the week reconditioning it whith new bearings, a new drive motor and various other things. Yesterday I turned up a pair of adaptors to accept wire wheels. I shaved my first tire this morning and am delighted with the results. On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 11:19 a.m. , wrote: > Great! Inquiring minds want to know ? what did you need to do? > > > > ---------------- > > All the best, > > > > Al Fuller > > > > *From:* Michael Salter > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2022 7:59 AM > *To:* Al Fuller > *Cc:* Austin Healey > *Subject:* Re: FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > > > > Thank you all who responded to my request for help. > > With guidance from several and in particular Oliver Viitamaki I have > managed to figure out the wiring and the machine is running beautifully. > > > > M > > > > On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 10:41 a.m. , wrote: > > Michael: I haven?t gotten much response on the shop talk list, but this > seems helpful: > > > > ?I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor > is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One > is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor > connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make > the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will > make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on > the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which.? > > > > > > ---------------- > > All the best, > > > > Al Fuller > > > > *From:* DAVID MASSEY > *Sent:* Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:56 AM > *To:* alfuller194 at gmail.com; Shop-talk at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > > > > I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor > is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One > is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor > connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make > the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will > make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on > the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: alfuller194 at gmail.com > To: Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2022 3:07 pm > Subject: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > > Posting for a friend: > > > > I have purchased an old machine named a Kemsway Tire Conditioner. > > I'm overhauling it to hopefully use to shave tires on wire wheels. > > I have all the mechanical issues resolved but am stumped when it comes to > rewiring the 110 volt single phase reversable cutter motor. > > Anyone out there who is knowledgeable on AC motor wiring who would be > prepared to offer some assistance. > > > > > > ---------------- > > All the best, > > > > Al Fuller > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 11:19 a.m. , wrote: Great! Inquiring minds want to know ? what did you need to do??----------------All the best,?Al Fuller?From: Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 7:59 AM To: Al Fuller Cc: Austin Healey Subject: Re: FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring?Thank you all who responded to my request for help.?With guidance from several and in particular?Oliver Viitamaki I have managed to figure out the wiring and the machine is running beautifully.??M?On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 10:41 a.m. , wrote: Michael:? I haven?t gotten much response on the shop talk list, but this seems helpful:??I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off switch.? The motor has three leads.? One is connected to neutral directly.? The other tow wires have a run capacitor connected between them.? Applying power to one of these two leads will make the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will make the motor run in the opposite direction.? There should be a label on the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which.???----------------All the best,?Al Fuller?From: DAVID MASSEY Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:56 AM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com; Shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring?I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off switch.? The motor has three leads.? One is connected to neutral directly.? The other tow wires have a run capacitor connected between them.? Applying power to one of these two leads will make the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will make the motor run in the opposite direction.? There should be a label on the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which.?Dave ????-----Original Message----- From: alfuller194 at gmail.com To: Shop-talk at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2022 3:07 pm Subject: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiringPosting for a friend:?I have purchased an old machine named a Kemsway Tire Conditioner.?I'm overhauling it to hopefully use to shave tires on wire wheels.I have all the mechanical issues resolved but am stumped when it comes to rewiring the 110 volt single phase reversable cutter motor.Anyone out there who is knowledgeable on AC motor wiring who would be prepared to offer some assistance.???----------------All the best,?Al Fuller?_______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Tue Oct 25 14:32:52 2022 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 16:32:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In-Reply-To: References: <5c0101d8e588$c4c49480$4e4dbd80$@gmail.com> <521603807.1889496.1666439755424@mail.yahoo.com> <05d301d8e87f$dc374550$94a5cff0$@gmail.com> <072d01d8e885$1e068db0$5a13a910$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Works better than the table saw? Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 10/25/22 2:08 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > In my continuing efforts to remove the last traces of scuttle shake > whilst retaining my original flat center wire wheels I have acquired a > Kemsway Tire Conditioner that is about 60 years old but was state of > the art for tire shaving in its day. > I've spent the week reconditioning it whith new bearings,? a new drive > motor and various other?things. > Yesterday I turned up a pair of adaptors to accept wire wheels. > I shaved my first tire this morning and am delighted with the results. > > On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 11:19 a.m. , wrote: > > Great! Inquiring minds want to know ? what did you need to do? > > ---------------- > > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > *From:* Michael Salter > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2022 7:59 AM > *To:* Al Fuller > *Cc:* Austin Healey > *Subject:* Re: FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > > Thank you all who responded to my request for help. > > With guidance from several and in particular?Oliver Viitamaki I > have managed to figure out the wiring and the machine is running > beautifully. > > M > > On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 10:41 a.m. , wrote: > > Michael:? I haven?t gotten much response on the shop talk > list, but this seems helpful: > > ?I'm not familiar with your application but a typical > reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off > switch.? The motor has three leads.? One is connected to > neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor > connected between them.? Applying power to one of these two > leads will make the motor run in one direction and applying > power to the other lead will make the motor run in the > opposite direction.? There should be a label on the motor > somewhere indicating which wire is which.? > > ---------------- > > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > *From:* DAVID MASSEY > *Sent:* Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:56 AM > *To:* alfuller194 at gmail.com; Shop-talk at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > > I'm not familiar with your application but a typical > reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off > switch.? The motor has three leads.? One is connected to > neutral directly.? The other tow wires have a run capacitor > connected between them.? Applying power to one of these two > leads will make the motor run in one direction and applying > power to the other lead will make the motor run in the > opposite direction.? There should be a label on the motor > somewhere indicating which wire is which. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: alfuller194 at gmail.com > To: Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2022 3:07 pm > Subject: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > > Posting for a friend: > > I have purchased an old machine named a Kemsway Tire Conditioner. > > I'm overhauling it to hopefully use to shave tires on wire wheels. > > I have all the mechanical issues resolved but am stumped when > it comes to rewiring the 110 volt single phase reversable > cutter motor. > > Anyone out there who is knowledgeable on AC motor wiring who > would be prepared to offer some assistance. > > ---------------- > > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 14:46:18 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 16:46:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In-Reply-To: <34208327.449474.1666729591067@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5c0101d8e588$c4c49480$4e4dbd80$@gmail.com> <521603807.1889496.1666439755424@mail.yahoo.com> <05d301d8e87f$dc374550$94a5cff0$@gmail.com> <072d01d8e885$1e068db0$5a13a910$@gmail.com> <34208327.449474.1666729591067@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Better still here is a couple of pics of the "business end" of the machine. It's quite apparent that whoever built this knew what they were doing. The very solidly mounted cup shaped cutter, which is driven by a 2/3 HP motor at 1750 RPM shaves very thin flakes off the tire which is rotated at about 120 RPM by a second motor. The cutting edge of the blade is at exactly center height of the wheel and its position, X & Y, is controlled by handwheels. The cutter is also set at a very specific angle to the surface of the tread being shaved. It has a profile guide mechanism which controls the "crowning" of the tread. It's a fairly "industrial" piece of equipment. I learned very quickly that the blade has to be kept razor sharp and that any type of stone, no matter how small, is your enemy. M On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 4:26 p.m. , wrote: > Michael, > Can you please describe the tool that actually shaves the tire? does it > work like a chisel or a lathe with a pointed tipped tool? > Gary Hodson > > pointed > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Salter > To: Al Fuller > Cc: Austin Healey > Sent: Tue, Oct 25, 2022 1:08 pm > Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > > In my continuing efforts to remove the last traces of scuttle shake whilst > retaining my original flat center wire wheels I have acquired a Kemsway > Tire Conditioner that is about 60 years old but was state of the art for > tire shaving in its day. > I've spent the week reconditioning it whith new bearings, a new drive > motor and various other things. > Yesterday I turned up a pair of adaptors to accept wire wheels. > I shaved my first tire this morning and am delighted with the results. > > On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 11:19 a.m. , wrote: > > Great! Inquiring minds want to know ? what did you need to do? > > ---------------- > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > *From:* Michael Salter > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2022 7:59 AM > *To:* Al Fuller > *Cc:* Austin Healey > *Subject:* Re: FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > > Thank you all who responded to my request for help. > With guidance from several and in particular Oliver Viitamaki I have > managed to figure out the wiring and the machine is running beautifully. > > M > > On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 10:41 a.m. , wrote: > > Michael: I haven?t gotten much response on the shop talk list, but this > seems helpful: > > ?I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor > is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One > is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor > connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make > the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will > make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on > the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which.? > > > ---------------- > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > *From:* DAVID MASSEY > *Sent:* Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:56 AM > *To:* alfuller194 at gmail.com; Shop-talk at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > > I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor > is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One > is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor > connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make > the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will > make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on > the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which. > > Dave > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: alfuller194 at gmail.com > To: Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2022 3:07 pm > Subject: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > Posting for a friend: > > I have purchased an old machine named a Kemsway Tire Conditioner. > I'm overhauling it to hopefully use to shave tires on wire wheels. > I have all the mechanical issues resolved but am stumped when it comes to > rewiring the 110 volt single phase reversable cutter motor. > Anyone out there who is knowledgeable on AC motor wiring who would be > prepared to offer some assistance. > > > ---------------- > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Michael Salter Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2022 7:09 AM To: Al Fuller Cc: Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In my continuing efforts to remove the last traces of scuttle shake whilst retaining my original flat center wire wheels I have acquired a Kemsway Tire Conditioner that is about 60 years old but was state of the art for tire shaving in its day. I've spent the week reconditioning it whith new bearings, a new drive motor and various other things. Yesterday I turned up a pair of adaptors to accept wire wheels. I shaved my first tire this morning and am delighted with the results. On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 11:19 a.m. , > wrote: Great! Inquiring minds want to know ? what did you need to do? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Michael Salter > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 7:59 AM To: Al Fuller > Cc: Austin Healey > Subject: Re: FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring Thank you all who responded to my request for help. With guidance from several and in particular Oliver Viitamaki I have managed to figure out the wiring and the machine is running beautifully. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5937 bytes Desc: not available URL: From javrugtman at htcnet.org Tue Oct 25 19:11:36 2022 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 21:11:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In-Reply-To: References: <5c0101d8e588$c4c49480$4e4dbd80$@gmail.com> <521603807.1889496.1666439755424@mail.yahoo.com> <05d301d8e87f$dc374550$94a5cff0$@gmail.com> <072d01d8e885$1e068db0$5a13a910$@gmail.com> <34208327.449474.1666729591067@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3a0d9f70-06b8-1bb6-5613-993903c80daa@htcnet.org> That's somewhat similar to a local truck tire center's machine they use to true tires.? Instead of that cup blade it had a disk that spun.? It had a ready stone sharpener mounted so they could sharpen it regularly.? It was adoptable to car tires and I had them do ours. John Hightown, VA On 10/25/2022 4:46 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > Better still here is a couple of pics of the "business end" of the > machine. > It's quite apparent that whoever built this knew what they were doing. > The very solidly mounted cup shaped cutter, which is driven by a 2/3 > HP motor at 1750 RPM shaves very thin flakes off the tire which is > rotated at about 120 RPM by a second motor. > The cutting edge of the blade is at exactly center height of the wheel > and its position, X & Y, is controlled by handwheels. > The cutter is also set at a very specific angle to the surface of the > tread being shaved. > It has a profile guide mechanism which controls the "crowning" of the > tread. > It's a fairly "industrial" piece of equipment. > I learned very quickly that the blade has to be kept razor sharp and > that any type of stone, no matter how small, is your enemy. > > M > > On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 4:26 p.m. , wrote: > > Michael, > Can you please describe the tool that actually shaves the tire? > does it work like a chisel or a lathe with a pointed tipped tool? > Gary Hodson > > pointed > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Salter > To: Al Fuller > Cc: Austin Healey > Sent: Tue, Oct 25, 2022 1:08 pm > Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > > In my continuing efforts to remove the last traces of scuttle > shake whilst retaining my original flat center wire wheels I have > acquired a Kemsway Tire Conditioner that is about 60 years old but > was state of the art for tire shaving in its day. > I've spent the week reconditioning it whith new bearings,? a new > drive motor and various other?things. > Yesterday I turned up a pair of adaptors to accept wire wheels. > I shaved my first tire this morning and am delighted with the results. > > On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 11:19 a.m. , wrote: > > Great! Inquiring minds want to know ? what did you need to do? > ---------------- > All the best, > Al Fuller > *From:* Michael Salter > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2022 7:59 AM > *To:* Al Fuller > *Cc:* Austin Healey > *Subject:* Re: FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > Thank you all who responded to my request for help. > With guidance from several and in particular?Oliver Viitamaki > I have managed to figure out the wiring and the machine is > running beautifully. > M > On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 10:41 a.m. , > wrote: > > Michael:? I haven?t gotten much response on the shop talk > list, but this seems helpful: > ?I'm not familiar with your application but a typical > reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off > switch.? The motor has three leads.? One is connected to > neutral directly.? The other tow wires have a run > capacitor connected between them. Applying power to one of > these two leads will make the motor run in one direction > and applying power to the other lead will make the motor > run in the opposite direction.? There should be a label on > the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which.? > ---------------- > All the best, > Al Fuller > *From:* DAVID MASSEY > *Sent:* Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:56 AM > *To:* alfuller194 at gmail.com; Shop-talk at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > I'm not familiar with your application but a typical > reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off > switch. The motor has three leads.? One is connected to > neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor > connected between them. Applying power to one of these two > leads will make the motor run in one direction and > applying power to the other lead will make the motor run > in the opposite direction. There should be a label on the > motor somewhere indicating which wire is which. > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: alfuller194 at gmail.com > To: Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2022 3:07 pm > Subject: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring > Posting for a friend: > I have purchased an old machine named a Kemsway Tire > Conditioner. > I'm overhauling it to hopefully use to shave tires on wire > wheels. > I have all the mechanical issues resolved but am stumped > when it comes to rewiring the 110 volt single phase > reversable cutter motor. > Anyone out there who is knowledgeable on AC motor wiring > who would be prepared to offer some assistance. > ---------------- > All the best, > Al Fuller > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/javrugtman at htcnet.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyray at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 22:20:00 2022 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 04:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In-Reply-To: <003c01d8e8cc$9c3f34b0$d4bd9e10$@xtra.co.nz> References: <5c0101d8e588$c4c49480$4e4dbd80$@gmail.com> <521603807.1889496.1666439755424@mail.yahoo.com> <05d301d8e87f$dc374550$94a5cff0$@gmail.com> <072d01d8e885$1e068db0$5a13a910$@gmail.com> <003c01d8e8cc$9c3f34b0$d4bd9e10$@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: <1116620171.155505.1666758000930@mail.yahoo.com> I'm with Mark, good to keep old tools working. Might even be a business opportunity. ? On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 07:40:58 PM PDT, Mark Donaldson wrote: Well done, Michael. I love seeing old ?period? workshop equipment given a second lease of life. I have several of the same vintage. ? Mark Ardmore, NZ ? ? From: Michael Salter Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2022 7:09 AM To: Al Fuller Cc: Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring ? In my continuing efforts to remove the last traces of scuttle shake whilst retaining my original flat center wire wheels I have acquired a Kemsway Tire Conditioner that is about 60 years old but was state of the art for tire shaving in its day. I've spent the week reconditioning it whith new bearings,? a new drive motor and various other?things. Yesterday I turned up a pair of adaptors to accept wire wheels. I shaved my first tire this morning and am delighted with the results. ? On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 11:19 a.m. , wrote: Great! Inquiring minds want to know ? what did you need to do? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 7:59 AM To: Al Fuller Cc: Austin Healey Subject: Re: FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring Thank you all who responded to my request for help.? With guidance from several and in particular?Oliver Viitamaki I have managed to figure out the wiring and the machine is running beautifully.? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: yes .jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 17252 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5937 bytes Desc: not available URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 26 05:57:17 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 07:57:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In-Reply-To: References: <5c0101d8e588$c4c49480$4e4dbd80$@gmail.com> <521603807.1889496.1666439755424@mail.yahoo.com> <05d301d8e87f$dc374550$94a5cff0$@gmail.com> <072d01d8e885$1e068db0$5a13a910$@gmail.com> <34208327.449474.1666729591067@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005c01d8e932$1871afd0$49550f70$@sympatico.ca> Very nice Mike! From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: October 25, 2022 4:46 PM To: warthodson at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring Better still here is a couple of pics of the "business end" of the machine. It's quite apparent that whoever built this knew what they were doing. The very solidly mounted cup shaped cutter, which is driven by a 2/3 HP motor at 1750 RPM shaves very thin flakes off the tire which is rotated at about 120 RPM by a second motor. The cutting edge of the blade is at exactly center height of the wheel and its position, X & Y, is controlled by handwheels. The cutter is also set at a very specific angle to the surface of the tread being shaved. It has a profile guide mechanism which controls the "crowning" of the tread. It's a fairly "industrial" piece of equipment. I learned very quickly that the blade has to be kept razor sharp and that any type of stone, no matter how small, is your enemy. M On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 4:26 p.m. , > wrote: Michael, Can you please describe the tool that actually shaves the tire? does it work like a chisel or a lathe with a pointed tipped tool? Gary Hodson pointed -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter > To: Al Fuller > Cc: Austin Healey > Sent: Tue, Oct 25, 2022 1:08 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In my continuing efforts to remove the last traces of scuttle shake whilst retaining my original flat center wire wheels I have acquired a Kemsway Tire Conditioner that is about 60 years old but was state of the art for tire shaving in its day. I've spent the week reconditioning it whith new bearings, a new drive motor and various other things. Yesterday I turned up a pair of adaptors to accept wire wheels. I shaved my first tire this morning and am delighted with the results. On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 11:19 a.m. , > wrote: Great! Inquiring minds want to know ? what did you need to do? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Michael Salter > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 7:59 AM To: Al Fuller > Cc: Austin Healey > Subject: Re: FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring Thank you all who responded to my request for help. With guidance from several and in particular Oliver Viitamaki I have managed to figure out the wiring and the machine is running beautifully. M On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 10:41 a.m. , > wrote: Michael: I haven?t gotten much response on the shop talk list, but this seems helpful: ?I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which.? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: DAVID MASSEY > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:56 AM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com ; Shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which. Dave -----Original Message----- From: alfuller194 at gmail.com To: Shop-talk at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2022 3:07 pm Subject: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring Posting for a friend: I have purchased an old machine named a Kemsway Tire Conditioner. I'm overhauling it to hopefully use to shave tires on wire wheels. I have all the mechanical issues resolved but am stumped when it comes to rewiring the 110 volt single phase reversable cutter motor. Anyone out there who is knowledgeable on AC motor wiring who would be prepared to offer some assistance. ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The mechanic was able to mark each wheel as to how it should be mounted on the car thereby further reducing shimmy. The shaving, balancing and detail to mounting provided an almost perfect driving. Tire shaving or Tire Truing facilities (both terms are used by the dealers) are difficult to find. When you do, you may have to drive long distances for the service. I drove across Florida. Well worth the trip. So Mike are you starting a new business? Bob Begani 67 BJ8 From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:46 PM To: warthodson at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring Better still here is a couple of pics of the "business end" of the machine. It's quite apparent that whoever built this knew what they were doing. The very solidly mounted cup shaped cutter, which is driven by a 2/3 HP motor at 1750 RPM shaves very thin flakes off the tire which is rotated at about 120 RPM by a second motor. The cutting edge of the blade is at exactly center height of the wheel and its position, X & Y, is controlled by handwheels. The cutter is also set at a very specific angle to the surface of the tread being shaved. It has a profile guide mechanism which controls the "crowning" of the tread. It's a fairly "industrial" piece of equipment. I learned very quickly that the blade has to be kept razor sharp and that any type of stone, no matter how small, is your enemy. M On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 4:26 p.m. , > wrote: Michael, Can you please describe the tool that actually shaves the tire? does it work like a chisel or a lathe with a pointed tipped tool? Gary Hodson pointed -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter > To: Al Fuller > Cc: Austin Healey > Sent: Tue, Oct 25, 2022 1:08 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring In my continuing efforts to remove the last traces of scuttle shake whilst retaining my original flat center wire wheels I have acquired a Kemsway Tire Conditioner that is about 60 years old but was state of the art for tire shaving in its day. I've spent the week reconditioning it whith new bearings, a new drive motor and various other things. Yesterday I turned up a pair of adaptors to accept wire wheels. I shaved my first tire this morning and am delighted with the results. On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 11:19 a.m. , > wrote: Great! Inquiring minds want to know ? what did you need to do? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Michael Salter > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 7:59 AM To: Al Fuller > Cc: Austin Healey > Subject: Re: FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring Thank you all who responded to my request for help. With guidance from several and in particular Oliver Viitamaki I have managed to figure out the wiring and the machine is running beautifully. M On Tue., Oct. 25, 2022, 10:41 a.m. , > wrote: Michael: I haven?t gotten much response on the shop talk list, but this seems helpful: ?I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which.? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: DAVID MASSEY > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:56 AM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com ; Shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. The motor has three leads. One is connected to neutral directly. The other tow wires have a run capacitor connected between them. Applying power to one of these two leads will make the motor run in one direction and applying power to the other lead will make the motor run in the opposite direction. There should be a label on the motor somewhere indicating which wire is which. Dave -----Original Message----- From: alfuller194 at gmail.com To: Shop-talk at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2022 3:07 pm Subject: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring Posting for a friend: I have purchased an old machine named a Kemsway Tire Conditioner. I'm overhauling it to hopefully use to shave tires on wire wheels. I have all the mechanical issues resolved but am stumped when it comes to rewiring the 110 volt single phase reversable cutter motor. Anyone out there who is knowledgeable on AC motor wiring who would be prepared to offer some assistance. ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Looks like 8-32 but not maybe some are 3-BA but not > all of them. Tried to order 3-BA tap and die from Metric & Multi-standard > to no avail. Let's hear from the hive mind..I can't br the only one who > has run into this. > Thanks > Ray > > [image: Inline image] > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 10:25:22 .jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2600040 bytes Desc: not available URL: From manifold at telus.net Wed Oct 26 11:57:51 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 10:57:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Help In-Reply-To: <713247466.437883.1666805033163@mail.yahoo.com> References: <713247466.437883.1666805033163.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <713247466.437883.1666805033163@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ray, I have learned the hard way about different thread sizes on my Healey and would like to help others avoid the same mistakes I made. My car is a 1960 BT7 and I have 5 left over original knurled nuts. I also have a 3BA tap a friend has lent me. All 5 knurled nuts, two small and three large, thread smoothly onto the 3BA tap. I hope this helps... Harold On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:32 AM Ray Juncal via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > OK guys, so I'm working my way through two sets of instruments and ready > to mount them up. Of course the knurled nuts were all put in one bag some > time ago. Noe it seems there are at least two different threads on the > mounting studs and I dont have enough of the knurled nuts to come out even > with the instruments. Looks like 8-32 but not maybe some are 3-BA but not > all of them. Tried to order 3-BA tap and die from Metric & Multi-standard > to no avail. Let's hear from the hive mind..I can't br the only one who > has run into this. > Thanks > Ray > > [image: Inline image] > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I figured anyone willing and able to undertake the wiring would know, so I didn?t say anything? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys On Behalf Of Mark Bradakis via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 8:19 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: [Shop-talk] 110 v motor wiring On 10/25/22 8:41 AM, alfuller194 at gmail.com wrote: Michael: I haven?t gotten much response on the shop talk list, but this seems helpful: ?I'm not familiar with your application but a typical reversable AC motor is controlled by a SPST center-off switch. I would think he meant SPDT switch. A single throw switch would not have a "center off" position, but a double throw could have. mjb. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk Wed Oct 26 14:38:00 2022 From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 20:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] BA taps References: <2052946681.798755.1666816680693.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2052946681.798755.1666816680693@mail.yahoo.com> BA taps, nuts, bolts, set screws etc are still readily available in the UK, mainly because they are much used by model makers. RGD Tools in Yorkshire have all the taps. There are several vendors stocking nuts and bolts. As a matter of interest I read somewhere that instrument makers like Smiths deliberately used the uncommon odd numbered BA threads like 3BA, when 2BA and 4BA were the common sizes. The set screws holding the fuel gauge sender unit is another example of 3BA. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 26 15:03:21 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:03:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Help References: <713247466.437883.1666805033163.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <713247466.437883.1666805033163@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00cd01d8e97e$614e1d50$23ea57f0$@sympatico.ca> Ray, try Tracy Tool in the UK for BA taps and dies. I have used them for years and they have everything. Price is always good and they are quick. https://www.tracytools.com/taps-and-dies/BA-taps-dies cheers, Mirek From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Ray Juncal via Healeys Sent: October 26, 2022 1:24 PM To: List Healey > Subject: [Healeys] Help OK guys, so I'm working my way through two sets of instruments and ready to mount them up. Of course the knurled nuts were all put in one bag some time ago. Noe it seems there are at least two different threads on the mounting studs and I dont have enough of the knurled nuts to come out even with the instruments. Looks like 8-32 but not maybe some are 3-BA but not all of them. Tried to order 3-BA tap and die from Metric & Multi-standard to no avail. Let's hear from the hive mind..I can't br the only one who has run into this. Thanks Ray -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2600040 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Wed Oct 26 16:16:32 2022 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 18:16:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Help In-Reply-To: <713247466.437883.1666805033163@mail.yahoo.com> References: <713247466.437883.1666805033163.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <713247466.437883.1666805033163@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8f64d337-ae0a-6f97-1b38-e5c26df48202@earthlink.net> Check with British Tools and Fasteners for taps/dies. https://britishfasteners.com/ Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 10/26/22 1:23 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote: > OK guys, so I'm working my way through two sets of instruments and > ready to mount them up. Of course the knurled nuts were all put in one > bag some time ago. Noe it seems there are at least two different > threads on the mounting studs and I dont have enough of the knurled > nuts to come out even with the instruments. Looks like 8-32 but not > maybe some are 3-BA but not all of them. Tried to order 3-BA tap and > die from Metric & Multi-standard to no avail.? Let's hear from the > hive mind..I can't br the only one who has run into this. > Thanks > Ray > > Inline image > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 21:27:29 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 11:27:29 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BA taps In-Reply-To: <2052946681.798755.1666816680693@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2052946681.798755.1666816680693.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2052946681.798755.1666816680693@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah, my A90's trafficator is full of weirdo BA screw sizes. I ended up buying a full tap kit a few years ago to deal with it. On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 6:16 AM mike brooks via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > BA taps, nuts, bolts, set screws etc are still readily available in the > UK, mainly because they are much used by model makers. RGD Tools in > Yorkshire have all the taps. There are several vendors stocking nuts and > bolts. As a matter of interest I read somewhere that instrument makers like > Smiths deliberately used the uncommon odd numbered BA threads like 3BA, > when 2BA and 4BA were the common sizes. The set screws holding the fuel > gauge sender unit is another example of 3BA. > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As a matter of interest I read somewhere that instrument makers like >> Smiths deliberately used the uncommon odd numbered BA threads like 3BA, >> when 2BA and 4BA were the common sizes. The set screws holding the fuel >> gauge sender unit is another example of 3BA. >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Help? > On Oct 27, 2022, at 2:00 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_09CA_01D8E93A.39283160 > X-Apple-Content-Length: 3447 > Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; > charset=utf-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE > > > ------=_NextPart_000_09CA_01D8E93A.39283160-- > > > > > > ------=_Part_798754_193170657.1666816680692 > X-Apple-Content-Length: 798 > Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; > charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > > > ------=_Part_798754_193170657.1666816680692-- > > > > > > > > > > --0000000000005cd47705ebfbb97d > X-Apple-Content-Length: 2470 > Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; > charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE > > > --0000000000005cd47705ebfbb97d-- > > > > > > --000000000000d094a405ec00efae > X-Apple-Content-Length: 3993 > Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; > charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE > > > --000000000000d094a405ec00efae-- > > Alan Wasserman alanwassermannc at gmail.com 732-887-0742 www.wassermanstudio.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From manifold at telus.net Thu Oct 27 16:38:22 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:38:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Front Apron Doesn't Fit Message-ID: Hello, Has anyone had a problem with a new front apron that will not fit to an original front bumper? I went to install my new painted front apron and discovered the curvature doesn't match the bumper. I can bolt the ends but there is a 7/16" gap between the apron and the bumper at the middle two bolts. I tried using bolts in the middle two holes to draw the apron to the bumper but it started to bend. This one will require surgery to get it to fit. Is there a new one that is known to fit? Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I tried using bolts in the middle two holes to draw the apron to the bumper but it started to bend. > This one will require surgery to get it to fit. Is there a new one that is known to fit? > > Harold > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > From sentenac.rw at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 18:42:10 2022 From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 17:42:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Front Apron Doesn't Fit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would suspect that your front bumper has been reshaped, perhaps by the folks who rechromed it. The apron may be shaped correctly. -Roland On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 3:59 PM Harold Manifold wrote: > Hello, > > Has anyone had a problem with a new front apron that will not fit to an > original front bumper? I went to install my new painted front apron and > discovered the curvature doesn't match the bumper. I can bolt the ends but > there is a 7/16" gap between the apron and the bumper at the middle two > bolts. I tried using bolts in the middle two holes to draw the apron to the > bumper but it started to bend. > This one will require surgery to get it to fit. Is there a new one that is > known to fit? > > Harold > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 19:07:34 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 21:07:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Front Apron Doesn't Fit In-Reply-To: <4A190C19-112C-46E5-9C25-2B5CAFACFA95@rogers.com> References: <4A190C19-112C-46E5-9C25-2B5CAFACFA95@rogers.com> Message-ID: I would be hesitant to immediately blame the shape of the apron. In my experience they are usually correct and it is the curvature of the bumper which is at fault. M On Thu., Oct. 27, 2022, 8:40 p.m. Stephen Hutchings via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Oh Boy?where did you get the apron??I was about to order one (my car came > without one many years ago), and I had wondered about the possible fit > problems. Good luck with it! > > Stephe, BJ8 > > > On Oct 27, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Has anyone had a problem with a new front apron that will not fit to an > original front bumper? I went to install my new painted front apron and > discovered the curvature doesn't match the bumper. I can bolt the ends but > there is a 7/16" gap between the apron and the bumper at the middle two > bolts. I tried using bolts in the middle two holes to draw the apron to the > bumper but it started to bend. > > This one will require surgery to get it to fit. Is there a new one that > is known to fit? > > > > Harold > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Thu Oct 27 19:38:37 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 21:38:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Front Apron Doesn't Fit In-Reply-To: <4A190C19-112C-46E5-9C25-2B5CAFACFA95@rogers.com> References: <4A190C19-112C-46E5-9C25-2B5CAFACFA95@rogers.com> Message-ID: <25550468-8267-4191-A2F2-3885A21EDE1D@aol.com> Harold Have to ask which part, the apron or the bumper, is the problem? Did you have an apron on the car previously and did it fit? If so did you lay the new apron on the old one? I?ve seen a lot of bent bumpers over the years. Perry Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Stephen Hutchings via Healeys wrote: > > ?Oh Boy?where did you get the apron??I was about to order one (my car came without one many years ago), and I had wondered about the possible fit problems. Good luck with it! > > Stephe, BJ8 > >> On Oct 27, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Has anyone had a problem with a new front apron that will not fit to an original front bumper? I went to install my new painted front apron and discovered the curvature doesn't match the bumper. I can bolt the ends but there is a 7/16" gap between the apron and the bumper at the middle two bolts. I tried using bolts in the middle two holes to draw the apron to the bumper but it started to bend. >> This one will require surgery to get it to fit. Is there a new one that is known to fit? >> >> Harold >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 20:54:30 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 10:54:30 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] electric AC compressor Message-ID: Has anyone had experience installing an electric AC compressor on an old classic? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Thu Oct 27 20:55:25 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 19:55:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Front Apron Doesn't Fit In-Reply-To: <25550468-8267-4191-A2F2-3885A21EDE1D@aol.com> References: <4A190C19-112C-46E5-9C25-2B5CAFACFA95@rogers.com> <25550468-8267-4191-A2F2-3885A21EDE1D@aol.com> Message-ID: The group has raised some good questions. Is it the bumper or the apron or some repair? The bumper hasn't been rechromed and there are no signs of any previous repair. I will have to dig through my records to find where I got the apron as it was some time ago. I measured the curvature of the bumper using a string line between the two outside bolt holes and measuring the distance from the string to the two inner bolts holes. See attached picture. Both measure 1-9/16" which tells me the curve in the bumper is uniform. The same measurement on the apron is 1-3/16" which is the 3/8" to 7/16" gap I am seeing. If someone out there has a front bumper available could you take the same measurement I did. Then I would know if my bumper is a unicorn or the apron is a fault. I don't want to buy another apron only to find the same issue. Thanks... Harold On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 6:38 PM Perry Small wrote: > > Harold > Have to ask which part, the apron or the bumper, is the problem? Did you > have an apron on the car previously and did it fit? > If so did you lay the new apron on the old one? I?ve seen a lot of bent > bumpers over the years. > Perry > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 27, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Stephen Hutchings via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > ?Oh Boy?where did you get the apron??I was about to order one (my car > came without one many years ago), and I had wondered about the possible fit > problems. Good luck with it! > > > > Stephe, BJ8 > > > >> On Oct 27, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Harold Manifold > wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> Has anyone had a problem with a new front apron that will not fit to an > original front bumper? I went to install my new painted front apron and > discovered the curvature doesn't match the bumper. I can bolt the ends but > there is a 7/16" gap between the apron and the bumper at the middle two > bolts. I tried using bolts in the middle two holes to draw the apron to the > bumper but it started to bend. > >> This one will require surgery to get it to fit. Is there a new one that > is known to fit? > >> > >> Harold > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > >> > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >> > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Martha Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Hutchings via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 28, 2022 11:31 AM To: Harold Manifold Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Front Apron Doesn't Fit Oh Boy?where did you get the apron??I was about to order one (my car came without one many years ago), and I had wondered about the possible fit problems. Good luck with it! Stephe, BJ8 > On Oct 27, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: > > Hello, > > Has anyone had a problem with a new front apron that will not fit to an > original front bumper? I went to install my new painted front apron and > discovered the curvature doesn't match the bumper. I can bolt the ends but > there is a 7/16" gap between the apron and the bumper at the middle two > bolts. I tried using bolts in the middle two holes to draw the apron to > the bumper but it started to bend. > This one will require surgery to get it to fit. Is there a new one that is > known to fit? > > Harold > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmolony1 at bigpond.com From 050.rpl at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 06:21:46 2022 From: 050.rpl at gmail.com (R. Lindsay) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 08:21:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] electric AC compressor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I put ac in my bj8. I live in SW Florida. This summer the car was drivable, not as cool as my daily driver but took the ?edge? off. Used vintage air from Summit Racing. Mine was a ComPac Gen II. If you have the car apart, it should be pretty easy. There are a lot of bits and pieces and wrestling with them. Price Lindsay Cell: 630-841-6300 Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2022, at 11:24 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > > ? > Has anyone had experience installing an electric AC compressor on an old classic? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/050.rpl at gmail.com > From tfsbj7 at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 07:46:14 2022 From: tfsbj7 at gmail.com (tfsbj7 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 09:46:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] electric AC compressor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00fe01d8ead3$a6971d70$f3c55850$@gmail.com> I did the same thing. There are several web pages devoted to installation of the Gen II by Vintage Air. I liked the bracket available from the fellow in Texas.... but the clearances to the hood and top radiator hose are very very close. As you said, there were a few challenges. Getting the main unit installed under the dash was tricky because of all the other plumbing and wiring bits and pieces; but, for me, the most challenging clearance/fit issues were with the radiator and fan assemblies. I was able to install a 14inch fan, but it required fabrication of some special baffling to ensure the air flow remained good through the standard car radiator. I like having the extra "engine cooling capabilities" offered by having an electric fan .... so I wired the a/c fan to an independent switch too. That way I can turn on the coolant fan even if the a/c is off. (So far, I've never needed it....but I've not driven the car in stop/go traffic like one finds in FL or CA.) -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of R. Lindsay via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 28, 2022 8:22 AM To: Alan Seigrist Cc: Healey list Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric AC compressor I put ac in my bj8. I live in SW Florida. This summer the car was drivable, not as cool as my daily driver but took the ?edge? off. Used vintage air from Summit Racing. Mine was a ComPac Gen II. If you have the car apart, it should be pretty easy. There are a lot of bits and pieces and wrestling with them. Price Lindsay Cell: 630-841-6300 Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2022, at 11:24 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > > ? > Has anyone had experience installing an electric AC compressor on an old classic? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/050.rpl at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tfsbj7 at gmail.com From michael.oritt at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 07:56:12 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 09:56:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] electric AC compressor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When I lived in Miami in the early 1960's I owned a black BT7. I had an AC system fabricated and it functioned, though not effectively. Because the ambient heat load was terrific and there was no way of insulating the roof without losing the ability to fold it down, and because do-it-yourself window tinting was not at the time very good the AC's ability to lower the cabin temperature was negligible and the result was not worth the effort. Best--Michael Oritt . On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 8:32 AM R. Lindsay via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I put ac in my bj8. I live in SW Florida. This summer the car was > drivable, not as cool as my daily driver but took the ?edge? off. > > Used vintage air from Summit Racing. Mine was a ComPac Gen II. If you have > the car apart, it should be pretty easy. There are a lot of bits and pieces > and wrestling with them. > > Price Lindsay > > Cell: 630-841-6300 > Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 27, 2022, at 11:24 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > ? > > Has anyone had experience installing an electric AC compressor on an old > classic? > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/050.rpl at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Healeys On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist via Healeys Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2022 10:55 PM To: Healey list Subject: [Healeys] electric AC compressor Has anyone had experience installing an electric AC compressor on an old classic? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.fawcett at cox.net Fri Oct 28 08:56:25 2022 From: m.fawcett at cox.net (Mark Fawcett) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 07:56:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Front Apron Doesn't Fit In-Reply-To: <25550468-8267-4191-A2F2-3885A21EDE1D@aol.com> References: <4A190C19-112C-46E5-9C25-2B5CAFACFA95@rogers.com> <25550468-8267-4191-A2F2-3885A21EDE1D@aol.com> Message-ID: I just replaced my front apron a couple months ago and it fit perfectly. I suspect the bumper might be the culprit. I got the apron at Moss. Mark Fawcett On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 7:23 AM Perry Small via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Harold > Have to ask which part, the apron or the bumper, is the problem? Did you > have an apron on the car previously and did it fit? > If so did you lay the new apron on the old one? I?ve seen a lot of bent > bumpers over the years. > Perry > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 27, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Stephen Hutchings via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > ?Oh Boy?where did you get the apron??I was about to order one (my car > came without one many years ago), and I had wondered about the possible fit > problems. Good luck with it! > > > > Stephe, BJ8 > > > >> On Oct 27, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Harold Manifold > wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> Has anyone had a problem with a new front apron that will not fit to an > original front bumper? I went to install my new painted front apron and > discovered the curvature doesn't match the bumper. I can bolt the ends but > there is a 7/16" gap between the apron and the bumper at the middle two > bolts. I tried using bolts in the middle two holes to draw the apron to the > bumper but it started to bend. > >> This one will require surgery to get it to fit. 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URL: From ggilliam at usol.com Fri Oct 28 16:15:24 2022 From: ggilliam at usol.com (ggilliam at usol.com) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 18:15:24 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Timing chain tensioner Message-ID: <6d6b2d84a0517c69ea76824dde4521e2@usol.com> Hello Listers, Happy Halloween! I am working on a 29K engine, and among the parts I'm replacing is the timing chain tensioner. The Moss replacement I received is a spring loaded unit, as opposed to the oil pressure operated original unit. Anybody have experience with this item...good or bad? There are also 12 small o-rings in the head gasket kit...for valve stems I presume? How are they used? They were not present on the head at tear down. Regards, Gordy From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Fri Oct 28 22:07:58 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 00:07:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Timing chain tensioner In-Reply-To: <6d6b2d84a0517c69ea76824dde4521e2@usol.com> References: <6d6b2d84a0517c69ea76824dde4521e2@usol.com> Message-ID: <003601d8eb4c$07c6f1b0$1754d510$@sympatico.ca> Hi Gordy, About 18 month ago I had Mike Salter rebuild my BT7 motor and we had many long discussions about various options for some parts, timing chain tensioners being one of them. There are several upgrades and it is tough to decide what works best. I combed the internet for information on them and in the end decided that the one that MOSS sells as their "premium" tensioner is the best bet. Gordy, I did a summary of my findings for Mike, but I can't find it. The Moss "Premium" are made in France and it is the same part that is sold as the OEM tensioner for certain Jaguars, in fact when the part arrived from MOSS it was in a Jaguar/Land Rover box. I had the Jag part number as you could just go to your Jag/Land Rover dealer for it, but cannot find it. My recollection is that they are ALL spring loaded, but all have an oil feed through them too. I think the oil feed is just to lubricate the interface with the chain, but not sure if oil plays a role in tensioning. The less expensive tensioner that MOSS offers is also offered by a host of other suppliers and although I don't recall finding reports on specific problems with it, I do recall reports of faster wear on the rubber shoe. I was never convinced that the version that DW sells was any better than the French-made one. I would also add that if you have the head off, I suggest not using the head gasket that is supplied. I did and it failed massively - coolant leaking out everywhere. That was after the block and head were taken to the machine shop and the surfaces were decked to ensure they were flat. Mike and I carefully examined the gasket when it was removed, and could not see a flaw, but it leaked. I replaced it with the MOSS Premium Head Gasket and after almost 2000 miles on the engine have had no problems. One of the UK suppliers also sold a composite gasket which I found after buying the MOSS premium one, and I would have considered that. Good luck -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of ggilliam--- via Healeys Sent: October 28, 2022 6:15 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Timing chain tensioner Hello Listers, Happy Halloween! I am working on a 29K engine, and among the parts I'm replacing is the timing chain tensioner. The Moss replacement I received is a spring loaded unit, as opposed to the oil pressure operated original unit. Anybody have experience with this item...good or bad? There are also 12 small o-rings in the head gasket kit...for valve stems I presume? How are they used? They were not present on the head at tear down. Regards, Gordy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 06:09:13 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 08:09:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Timing chain tensioner In-Reply-To: <6d6b2d84a0517c69ea76824dde4521e2@usol.com> References: <6d6b2d84a0517c69ea76824dde4521e2@usol.com> Message-ID: All the timing chain tensioners for 6 cylinder engines have a spring which supplements the oil pressure or perhaps helps prevent the tensioner from retracting when there is no pressure. The small "O" rings are to be installed directly below the collets "keepers" and are required to prevent oil from running between the collets and down the valve stem. They should be installed onto the top of the valve just before you install the collets. M On Fri., Oct. 28, 2022, 11:07 p.m. ggilliam--- via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hello Listers, Happy Halloween! > > I am working on a 29K engine, and among the parts I'm replacing is the > timing chain tensioner. The Moss replacement I received is a spring > loaded unit, as opposed to the oil pressure operated original unit. > Anybody have experience with this item...good or bad? > There are also 12 small o-rings in the head gasket kit...for valve > stems I presume? > How are they used? They were not present on the head at tear down. > Regards, > Gordy > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Sat Oct 29 07:02:31 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 09:02:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 15, Issue 327 In-Reply-To: References: <8411C01F-80B7-4478-A950-57F9DF0766BC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Send a link to them. On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 4:05 PM i erbs wrote: > Send three emails > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 2:40 PM Alan Wasserman > wrote: > >> I tried to send an email with 3 pictures and it was kicked back as too >> much content. Help? >> >> On Oct 27, 2022, at 2:00 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote: >> >> >> >> >> ------=_NextPart_000_09CA_01D8E93A.39283160 >> X-Apple-Content-Length: 3447 >> Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; >> charset=utf-8 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE >> >> >> ------=_NextPart_000_09CA_01D8E93A.39283160-- >> >> >> >> >> >> ------=_Part_798754_193170657.1666816680692 >> X-Apple-Content-Length: 798 >> Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; >> charset=UTF-8 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >> >> >> ------=_Part_798754_193170657.1666816680692-- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --0000000000005cd47705ebfbb97d >> X-Apple-Content-Length: 2470 >> Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; >> charset=UTF-8 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE >> >> >> --0000000000005cd47705ebfbb97d-- >> >> >> >> >> >> --000000000000d094a405ec00efae >> X-Apple-Content-Length: 3993 >> Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; >> charset=UTF-8 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE >> >> >> --000000000000d094a405ec00efae-- >> >> >> >> Alan Wasserman >> alanwassermannc at gmail.com >> 732-887-0742 >> www.wassermanstudio.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 07:49:06 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 09:49:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Timing chain tensioner In-Reply-To: <6d6b2d84a0517c69ea76824dde4521e2@usol.com> References: <6d6b2d84a0517c69ea76824dde4521e2@usol.com> Message-ID: Gordy-- Most of this post is somewhat off-topic as I have a 100, so if you don't care to read it stop now and just be glad you have a six. For other 100 owners, or those who want to feel somewhat grateful and/or superior--read on. Because there are no springs, etc, between the chain and tensioner on a 100 the task is a tough one. The chain--with rubber tensioner belt, and two chain sprockets in place and slip over the two shafts--while everything is in situ and the keyways aligned. I don't know how much "assembly slack" exists--probably a couple of eye lashes' worth--but everything is "offered up" to the shafts and the two gears--with keyways correctly situated--are gradually driven onto the shafts until seated. Easy to say but difficult to do. I did this alone with engine in place and though a second set of hands would have helped to keep things aligned and assembled during the process there is not a lot of room for two bodies in front of the engine--though it would have been nice to have had a "helper" there to swear and blame everything on. I don't remember how many attempts it took to get everything started--several as I recall--but once the sprockets are started it is just a matter of driving them down the ends of the shafts and into place. I do not drink but if I did I would certainly have rewarded myself with mere beer on the job's completion. Luckily this operation is not one which must be done frequently. I'm guessing I had 75K miles on the engine since the previous rebuild where this definitely would have been done. Doing this on a bench would certainly have made things much easier, but it still a difficult job. Good luck! Best--Michael Oritt BN1 On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 11:10 PM ggilliam--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hello Listers, Happy Halloween! > > I am working on a 29K engine, and among the parts I'm replacing is the > timing chain tensioner. The Moss replacement I received is a spring > loaded unit, as opposed to the oil pressure operated original unit. > Anybody have experience with this item...good or bad? > There are also 12 small o-rings in the head gasket kit...for valve > stems I presume? > How are they used? They were not present on the head at tear down. > Regards, > Gordy > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roggrace at telus.net Sat Oct 29 09:26:11 2022 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 08:26:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] GB Oil Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Update OK - so bought a new drain plug from Moss. It is slightly longer and with a 3/8 allen socket instead of the usual 7/16 square. The thread seemed to be machined and better quality than the plumbing like original one. Used some non hardening goo and so far so good, however not had an opportunity yet to get it really hot. rg On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:19 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > oops .. forgot the link > > > https://www.amazon.com/Rectorseal-25551-8-Ounce-Thread-Sealant/dp/B000H5MW0O?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER > > > On 10/16/2022 9:15 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > The white teflon sealant usually works well enough if the the threads > > are well-matched. Teflon tape might be a little better but, usually, > > it isn't. This stuff works best for me in plumbing applications, > > should be OK. > > > > Go easy on the breaker bar, it's possible to crack the case; in fact, > > have a close look at it to check for cracking. > > > > > > On 10/16/2022 8:18 PM, Roger Grace wrote: > >> BJ8 with MT 90 oil in transmission. > >> I am struggling with an oil leak from the drain plug on my transmission. > >> The tapered thread plug, not the brass OD one. > >> On my last attempt I carefully cleaned the plug and the case thread. > >> Then used used that white Permatex thread sealant. > >> Little improvement. > >> Kept tightening with lot more torque with 16in breaker bar plus pipe. > >> Some minor improvement. > >> Fearing damage, now reluctant to do any more tightening. > >> A colleague suggests that Permatex form a gasket aviation stuff - > >> liquid sealant in a tin ... > >> Is this a common issue - maybe a new plug ? > >> Ideas please and your collective wisdom appreciated. > >> rg > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 10:28:54 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 09:28:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Timing chain tensioner In-Reply-To: <6d6b2d84a0517c69ea76824dde4521e2@usol.com> References: <6d6b2d84a0517c69ea76824dde4521e2@usol.com> Message-ID: When I rebuilt my bt7 engine 40+ years ago I used a jaguar tensioner as stated in another post. Spring used. Still working On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 8:10 PM ggilliam--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hello Listers, Happy Halloween! > > I am working on a 29K engine, and among the parts I'm replacing is the > timing chain tensioner. The Moss replacement I received is a spring > loaded unit, as opposed to the oil pressure operated original unit. > Anybody have experience with this item...good or bad? > There are also 12 small o-rings in the head gasket kit...for valve > stems I presume? > How are they used? They were not present on the head at tear down. > Regards, > Gordy > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Sat Oct 29 12:02:22 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 11:02:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Timing chain tensioner In-Reply-To: References: <6d6b2d84a0517c69ea76824dde4521e2@usol.com> Message-ID: Is this the tensioner being discussed in this thread? If so, I have one on my engine. Note of caution the bolts that came with it were too long and the head of one bolt needs to be machined. Is this tensioner originally from a Jag? [image: image.png] Harold On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 9:41 AM i erbs wrote: > When I rebuilt my bt7 engine 40+ years ago I used a jaguar tensioner as > stated in another post. Spring used. Still working > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 8:10 PM ggilliam--- via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Hello Listers, Happy Halloween! >> >> I am working on a 29K engine, and among the parts I'm replacing is the >> timing chain tensioner. The Moss replacement I received is a spring >> loaded unit, as opposed to the oil pressure operated original unit. >> Anybody have experience with this item...good or bad? >> There are also 12 small o-rings in the head gasket kit...for valve >> stems I presume? >> How are they used? They were not present on the head at tear down. >> Regards, >> Gordy >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From roggrace at telus.net Sun Oct 30 11:16:30 2022 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:16:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] ignition warning light In-Reply-To: <001201d8d4b7$4a5f8fb0$df1eaf10$@xtra.co.nz> References: <2035252520.1855811.1664465497367.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2035252520.1855811.1664465497367@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d8d420$dc92f490$95b8ddb0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <000c01d8d4b0$24902a30$6db07e90$@xtra.co.nz> <000a01d8d4b5$ebc25420$c346fc60$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001201d8d4b7$4a5f8fb0$df1eaf10$@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: Just found this in my drafts that I had neglected to send. The warning light intensity is roughly proportional to the difference to gen/alt voltage compared to batt volts. Hence bright when engine off; and glow when gen is struggling at low RPM, and goes bright when zero volts with a gen fault. To use a led, the trick is to install a shunt resistor in place of the incandescent warning light.Typically about 68 ohms or so. Watch the watt rating it needs to be continuously rated - not less than 3 W Also led polarity. I have had one fitted to my BJ8 tacho and works with both gen or alt. Speedy Cables did this for me when I upgraded to stepper movement and -ve ground. See pix and the polarity text change they did. rg On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 4:20 AM Mark Donaldson wrote: > Simon, > > I don?t believe whether a charging system is generator or alternator makes > any difference. > > The light is there only as a ?tell tale?. It doesn?t need to offer a > resistance, and the current drain of that little LED is tiny. > > My suggestion is ? try it and see. > > > > Cheers > > Mark > > > > *From:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com < > simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> > *Sent:* Friday, 30 September 2022 11:18 PM > *To:* 'Mark Donaldson' ; warthodson at aol.com > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light > > > > Sounds like a plan to me. Still ? to revert to the original question ? not > sure about using an LED in the ignition warning light. Maybe with a > generator, but not with an alternator. Can?t remember! > > Simon > > > > *From:* Mark Donaldson > *Sent:* 30 September 2022 10:37 > *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com; warthodson at aol.com > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light > > > > Gary, and Simon, > > I bought some last year for my BN2 and tri-carb. They are 12v LEDs in > GREEN. I can now easily see the direction indicator light in daylight. > > Make sure your LED is green, and not white, as the light intensity tends > to bleach out the green of the plastic case. > > Cost me NZ $7 That?s ?peanuts? in any currency. > > My next job is to fit an audible alarm so that I can hear when the > indicator is on. Ditto for leaving my lights on. > > > > Mark > > Ardmore, NZ > > > > > > *From:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com < > simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> > *Sent:* Friday, 30 September 2022 5:31 AM > *To:* warthodson at aol.com > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] ignition warning light > > > > Pretty sure that you can?t use LED. > > Mine was dim too but I found that to be function of the lens in the dial > which, in my case, was too thick. Maybe ? as I was recently advised here ? > take a sheet of thin acetate and punch the appropriate size hole. > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys > *On Behalf Of *warthodson--- via Healeys > *Sent:* 29 September 2022 16:32 > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] ignition warning light > > > > Is there a brighter bulb available for the ignition warning lite that will > fit a stock 100 socket & be relatively easy to see if it is on or off in > day light? 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URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun Oct 30 14:09:23 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 16:09:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Timing chain tensioner In-Reply-To: References: <6d6b2d84a0517c69ea76824dde4521e2@usol.com> Message-ID: Hi Harold, no that is not the type that Mirek was talking about. The Jaguar one used in his engine looks exactly like the original. M On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 3:31 PM Harold Manifold wrote: > Is this the tensioner being discussed in this thread? If so, I have one on > my engine. Note of caution the bolts that came with it were too long and > the head of one bolt needs to be machined. > > Is this tensioner originally from a Jag? > > [image: image.png] > Harold > > On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 9:41 AM i erbs wrote: > >> When I rebuilt my bt7 engine 40+ years ago I used a jaguar tensioner as >> stated in another post. Spring used. Still working >> >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 8:10 PM ggilliam--- via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> Hello Listers, Happy Halloween! >>> >>> I am working on a 29K engine, and among the parts I'm replacing is the >>> timing chain tensioner. The Moss replacement I received is a spring >>> loaded unit, as opposed to the oil pressure operated original unit. >>> Anybody have experience with this item...good or bad? >>> There are also 12 small o-rings in the head gasket kit...for valve >>> stems I presume? >>> How are they used? They were not present on the head at tear down. >>> Regards, >>> Gordy >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think you will also have some good reports on Silicone as well > > Jean > Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. > > From: Healeys on behalf of Michael MacLean > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022, 4:48 p.m. > To: Ahealey help > Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid > > At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake system with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone. What's the consensus, if there is one? > Mike MacLean > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Oct 30 17:49:59 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 16:49:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: <49AA7EF1-CC39-4784-8C5C-0443F0ADB214@gmail.com> References: <49AA7EF1-CC39-4784-8C5C-0443F0ADB214@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've had silicone in my BJ8 for over 30 years and 150K miles, and DoT4 in my BN2 for 15 or so years and just a few hundred miles (my dad put in in after a total system overhaul). The silicone has never caused a problem that I can attribute to it, but the DoT4 gelled once after the car sat for a couple years and recently one of the slave cylinders sprung a leak. Note the DoT4 that caused the problems wasn't Castrol. IMO, either is fine, but you should flush and replace the DoT4 every few years. Silicone is available, but somewhat harder to source. On 10/30/2022 3:46 PM, Ricchardd Mayor wrote: > Some will swear by silicone. ?I prefer DOT 4. > > > Richard?Mayor > boyracer466 at gmail.com > > >> On Oct 30, 2022, at 3:12 PM, Jean Caron >> wrote: >> >> Mike, >> DOT4 has worked for me in both A-H I have owned over the years, >> actually since 1984 and it has served me well, this is why I stick >> with it. I think you will also have some good reports on Silicone as well >> >> Jean >> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Michael >> MacLean >> *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2022, 4:48 p.m. >> *To:* Ahealey help >> *Subject:* [Healeys] Brake Fluid >> >> At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake >> system with all new components and tubing.? Now is the time to make >> the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone. 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URL: From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Oct 30 19:05:06 2022 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 21:05:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: References: <49AA7EF1-CC39-4784-8C5C-0443F0ADB214@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00f101d8ecc4$d11e03e0$735a0ba0$@rr.com> I?ve used silicone brake fluid in my BJ8 since the late 1980s, and have never had a problem with it ? no corrosion on or in the brake parts, and no stripped paint due to spills. It is not particularly hard for me to find, but it is more expensive. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 7:50 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid I've had silicone in my BJ8 for over 30 years and 150K miles, and DoT4 in my BN2 for 15 or so years and just a few hundred miles (my dad put in in after a total system overhaul). The silicone has never caused a problem that I can attribute to it, but the DoT4 gelled once after the car sat for a couple years and recently one of the slave cylinders sprung a leak. Note the DoT4 that caused the problems wasn't Castrol. IMO, either is fine, but you should flush and replace the DoT4 every few years. Silicone is available, but somewhat harder to source. On 10/30/2022 3:46 PM, Ricchardd Mayor wrote: Some will swear by silicone. I prefer DOT 4. Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com On Oct 30, 2022, at 3:12 PM, Jean Caron wrote: Mike, DOT4 has worked for me in both A-H I have owned over the years, actually since 1984 and it has served me well, this is why I stick with it. I think you will also have some good reports on Silicone as well Jean Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. _____ From: Healeys on behalf of Michael MacLean Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022, 4:48 p.m. To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake system with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone. What's the consensus, if there is one? Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Sun Oct 30 19:23:26 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 18:23:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: <00f101d8ecc4$d11e03e0$735a0ba0$@rr.com> References: <49AA7EF1-CC39-4784-8C5C-0443F0ADB214@gmail.com> <00f101d8ecc4$d11e03e0$735a0ba0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Michael, I used Dot 5 on my completely new/rebuilt braking system and the major benefit I discovered wasn't what I was expecting. My completely new braking system had numerous leaks for every reason: poor quality components, rough castings, fittings not tight enough, fittings not properly bedded, etc. I was very relieved to have a brake fluid that would harm or discolour my nice new paint. Once all of the leaks were sorted the performance of the brakes was fine. Harold On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 6:13 PM BJ8Healeys via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I?ve used silicone brake fluid in my BJ8 since the late 1980s, and have > never had a problem with it ? no corrosion on or in the brake parts, and no > stripped paint due to spills. It is not particularly hard for me to > find, but it is more expensive. > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC USA > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Bob > Spidell > *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2022 7:50 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid > > > > I've had silicone in my BJ8 for over 30 years and 150K miles, and DoT4 in > my BN2 for 15 or so years and just a few hundred miles (my dad put in in > after a total system overhaul). The silicone has never caused a problem > that I can attribute to it, but the DoT4 gelled once after the car sat for > a couple years and recently one of the slave cylinders sprung a leak. Note > the DoT4 that caused the problems wasn't Castrol. > > IMO, either is fine, but you should flush and replace the DoT4 every few > years. Silicone is available, but somewhat harder to source. > > On 10/30/2022 3:46 PM, Ricchardd Mayor wrote: > > Some will swear by silicone. I prefer DOT 4. > > > > > > Richard Mayor > boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > > On Oct 30, 2022, at 3:12 PM, Jean Caron < > vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Mike, > > DOT4 has worked for me in both A-H I have owned over the years, actually > since 1984 and it has served me well, this is why I stick with it. I think > you will also have some good reports on Silicone as well > > > > Jean > > Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Michael > MacLean > *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2022, 4:48 p.m. > *To:* Ahealey help > *Subject:* [Healeys] Brake Fluid > > > > At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake system > with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make the decision > to use DOT 4 or Silicone. What's the consensus, if there is one? > > Mike MacLean > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sun Oct 30 19:58:07 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 21:58:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael Have used the Dot 4 in the BN2 for the last 15 plus years. Only issue was with that fluid was when the car car was not driven for long periods of time, say six months. The wheel cylinders tended to corrode or the rubber stuck in the bore a bit and start to leak when the car was used again. Perry Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2022, at 5:32 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > ? > At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake system with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone. What's the consensus, if there is one? > Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Oct 30 20:00:26 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 10:00:26 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or even Dot 3 if you need to fill up. As I understand it with Dot 5 you should be careful to always use the same brand to fill up if necessary. Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long time, Dot 4 absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into the components. Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed every couple of years. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean wrote: > At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake system > with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make the decision > to use DOT 4 or Silicone. What's the consensus, if there is one? > Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Oct 30 20:52:28 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 10:52:28 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you plan to store the car, get a Carjacket and put the car in the bag with desiccant. Drive the car into the carjacket after you have warmed it up, that tends to drive all the moisture out. This method works really well in humid environments. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:32 AM Perry Small via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Michael > Have used the Dot 4 in the BN2 for the last 15 plus years. Only issue was > with that fluid was when the car car was not driven for long periods of > time, say six months. The wheel cylinders tended to corrode or the rubber > stuck in the bore a bit and start to leak when the car was used again. > Perry > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 30, 2022, at 5:32 PM, Michael MacLean > wrote: > > > > ? > > At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake > system with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make the > decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone. What's the consensus, if there is one? > > Mike MacLean > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgmoog at optonline.net Sun Oct 30 21:05:30 2022 From: cgmoog at optonline.net (Christopher Moog) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 23:05:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23e661b7-7533-9e72-5d82-591741d1ad6f@optonline.net> I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4. Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two different DOT5s. The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It has a lower viscosity than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in some ABS systems. It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and DOT4. Don't see an advantage in Healeys. On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or even Dot > 3 if you need to fill up.? As I understand it with Dot 5 you should be > careful to always use the same brand to fill up if necessary. > > Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long time, Dot 4 > absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into the components. > > Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed every > couple of years. > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean > wrote: > > At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake > system with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make > the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone.? What's the consensus, if > there is one? > Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cgmoog at optonline.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As I understand it with Dot 5 you should be > careful to always use the same brand to fill up if necessary. > > Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long time, Dot 4 > absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into the components. > > Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed every > couple of years. > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean > wrote: > > At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake > system with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make > the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone.? What's the consensus, if > there is one? > Mike MacLean > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Oct 30 22:35:16 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 21:35:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: <23e661b7-7533-9e72-5d82-591741d1ad6f@optonline.net> References: <23e661b7-7533-9e72-5d82-591741d1ad6f@optonline.net> Message-ID: <40c9eb9a-d256-d7a7-af13-d1c36882195e@comcast.net> "... There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 ..." I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1'? I also think it was deliberately named so as to confuse the issue. On 10/30/2022 8:05 PM, Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote: > I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4. > > Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two different > DOT5s. The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a newer > Glycol Ester DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It has a > lower viscosity than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in some ABS > systems. It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and DOT4. Don't > see an advantage in Healeys. > > > On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: >> The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or even Dot >> 3 if you need to fill up.? As I understand it with Dot 5 you should >> be careful to always use the same brand to fill up if necessary. >> >> Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long time, Dot 4 >> absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into the components. >> >> Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed every >> couple of years. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean >> wrote: >> >> At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt >> brake system with all new components and tubing.? Now is the time >> to make the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone.? What's the >> consensus, if there is one? >> Mike MacLean >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 02:10:51 2022 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 04:10:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <051001d8ed00$4b50f790$e1f2e6b0$@gmail.com> Below is a listing for a Flood Damaged MGA if any are interested. Bob Begani From: Hermann Schaller Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 9:25 PM To: Hermann Schaller Subject: 1962 MGA Mark II Dear BCCSWF Members, Our fellow member, Ed McMahon, suffered the loss of his MGA during hurricane Ian. The remains are up for auction. (see the information below) ?Best regards Hermann Schaller _____ From: Ed McMahon > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 1:21 PM To: Hermann Schaller - PC Yacht Club >; dennis-mckinley at comcast.net >; Dennis & Gail Labbe - TR4A >; Steve Kurowski & Susan Fero > Subject: My 1962 MGA Mark II My MGA was damaged by the flood. After a lot of thought I had to let it go because I am still working on the TR4A and don't have time or space to work on 2 cars. I found the car is currently being auctioned. I am not sure of the implications of the salvage title - flood. I was the second owner of the car, which I had for 35 years and still have original paperwork. I don' t if anyone would be interested. It is listed at: 1962 MG ALL MODELS for Sale | FL - PUNTA GORDA SOUTH | Tue. Nov 01, 2022 - Used & Repairable Salvage Cars - Copart USA The auction ends on Tuesday the 1st and the current bid is $675 Ed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 07:53:22 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 21:53:22 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II In-Reply-To: <051001d8ed00$4b50f790$e1f2e6b0$@gmail.com> References: <051001d8ed00$4b50f790$e1f2e6b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Looks pretty easily salvageable. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 4:34 PM Bob Begani via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Below is a listing for a Flood Damaged MGA if any are interested. > > > > Bob Begani > > > > *From:* Hermann Schaller > *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2022 9:25 PM > *To:* Hermann Schaller > *Subject:* 1962 MGA Mark II > > > > Dear BCCSWF Members, > > > > Our fellow member, Ed McMahon, suffered the loss of his MGA during > hurricane Ian. The remains are up for auction. > > (see the information below) > > > > ?Best regards > > Hermann Schaller > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Ed McMahon > *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2022 1:21 PM > *To:* Hermann Schaller - PC Yacht Club ; > dennis-mckinley at comcast.net ; Dennis & Gail > Labbe - TR4A ; Steve Kurowski & Susan > Fero > *Subject:* My 1962 MGA Mark II > > > > My MGA was damaged by the flood. After a lot of thought I had to let it > go because I am still working on the TR4A and don't have time or space to > work on 2 cars. I found the car is currently being auctioned. I am not > sure of the implications of the salvage title - flood. I was the second > owner of the car, which I had for 35 years and still have > original paperwork. I don' t if anyone would be interested. It is listed > at: > > 1962 MG ALL MODELS for Sale | FL - PUNTA GORDA SOUTH | Tue. Nov 01, 2022 - > Used & Repairable Salvage Cars - Copart USA > > > The auction ends on Tuesday the 1st and the current bid is $675 > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 10:20:41 2022 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:20:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II In-Reply-To: References: <051001d8ed00$4b50f790$e1f2e6b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001e01d8ed44$b8a96d60$29fc4820$@gmail.com> Please be advised the Flood was salt water from Hurricane IAN. Ed took very good care of the car. Still at the right price it could be a good project for the right price. Location is Central Florida Bob From: Alan Seigrist Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 9:53 AM To: rfbegani at gmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; Tom Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark IIta Looks pretty easily salvageable. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 4:34 PM Bob Begani via Healeys > wrote: Below is a listing for a Flood Damaged MGA if any are interested. Bob Begani From: Hermann Schaller > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 9:25 PM To: Hermann Schaller > Subject: 1962 MGA Mark II Dear BCCSWF Members, Our fellow member, Ed McMahon, suffered the loss of his MGA during hurricane Ian. The remains are up for auction. (see the information below) ?Best regards Hermann Schaller _____ From: Ed McMahon > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 1:21 PM To: Hermann Schaller - PC Yacht Club >; dennis-mckinley at comcast.net >; Dennis & Gail Labbe - TR4A >; Steve Kurowski & Susan Fero > Subject: My 1962 MGA Mark II My MGA was damaged by the flood. After a lot of thought I had to let it go because I am still working on the TR4A and don't have time or space to work on 2 cars. I found the car is currently being auctioned. I am not sure of the implications of the salvage title - flood. I was the second owner of the car, which I had for 35 years and still have original paperwork. I don' t if anyone would be interested. It is listed at: 1962 MG ALL MODELS for Sale | FL - PUNTA GORDA SOUTH | Tue. Nov 01, 2022 - Used & Repairable Salvage Cars - Copart USA The auction ends on Tuesday the 1st and the current bid is $675 Ed _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.hutchings at rogers.com Mon Oct 31 10:34:20 2022 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (s.hutchings) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:34:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <469800322.198137.1667234104851@rogers.com> This is one of those threads that can be endless,? but I would like to add my vote for DOT 5 (silicone) fluid.After many years of use I've had no problems,? and never inadvertently removed paint because of a leak or spill.I do remember there being more of a problem bleeding the BN1s and BN2s? because of the master cylinder design.Stephen,? BJ8Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: Michael MacLean Date: 2022-10-30 5:26 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake system with all new components and tubing.? Now is the time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone.? 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He forgot to drain the engine and transmission and that was another story? ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Begani via Healeys Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 4:20 PM To: 'Alan Seigrist' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net ; 'Tom' Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II Please be advised the Flood was salt water from Hurricane IAN. Ed took very good care of the car. Still at the right price it could be a good project for the right price. Location is Central Florida Bob From: Alan Seigrist Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 9:53 AM To: rfbegani at gmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; Tom Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark IIta Looks pretty easily salvageable. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 4:34 PM Bob Begani via Healeys > wrote: Below is a listing for a Flood Damaged MGA if any are interested. Bob Begani From: Hermann Schaller > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 9:25 PM To: Hermann Schaller > Subject: 1962 MGA Mark II Dear BCCSWF Members, Our fellow member, Ed McMahon, suffered the loss of his MGA during hurricane Ian. The remains are up for auction. (see the information below) ?Best regards Hermann Schaller ________________________________ From: Ed McMahon > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 1:21 PM To: Hermann Schaller - PC Yacht Club >; dennis-mckinley at comcast.net >; Dennis & Gail Labbe - TR4A >; Steve Kurowski & Susan Fero > Subject: My 1962 MGA Mark II My MGA was damaged by the flood. After a lot of thought I had to let it go because I am still working on the TR4A and don't have time or space to work on 2 cars. I found the car is currently being auctioned. I am not sure of the implications of the salvage title - flood. I was the second owner of the car, which I had for 35 years and still have original paperwork. I don' t if anyone would be interested. 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URL: From ynotink at msn.com Mon Oct 31 11:20:30 2022 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 17:20:30 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II In-Reply-To: References: <051001d8ed00$4b50f790$e1f2e6b0$@gmail.com> <001e01d8ed44$b8a96d60$29fc4820$@gmail.com> Message-ID: It will require a full body off resto to save probably. ________________________________ From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 5:18 PM To: Bob Begani via Healeys ; 'Alan Seigrist' ; rfbegani at gmail.com Cc: 'Tom' Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II My son?s TR6 was in his car port in Key West when Wilma came through. The storm surge was over the top of the car. He bought a power washer and cut a few holes in strategic places and managed to save the body and chassis. He forgot to drain the engine and transmission and that was another story? ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Begani via Healeys Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 4:20 PM To: 'Alan Seigrist' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net ; 'Tom' Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II Please be advised the Flood was salt water from Hurricane IAN. Ed took very good care of the car. Still at the right price it could be a good project for the right price. Location is Central Florida Bob From: Alan Seigrist Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 9:53 AM To: rfbegani at gmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; Tom Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark IIta Looks pretty easily salvageable. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 4:34 PM Bob Begani via Healeys > wrote: Below is a listing for a Flood Damaged MGA if any are interested. Bob Begani From: Hermann Schaller > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 9:25 PM To: Hermann Schaller > Subject: 1962 MGA Mark II Dear BCCSWF Members, Our fellow member, Ed McMahon, suffered the loss of his MGA during hurricane Ian. The remains are up for auction. (see the information below) ?Best regards Hermann Schaller ________________________________ From: Ed McMahon > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 1:21 PM To: Hermann Schaller - PC Yacht Club >; dennis-mckinley at comcast.net >; Dennis & Gail Labbe - TR4A >; Steve Kurowski & Susan Fero > Subject: My 1962 MGA Mark II My MGA was damaged by the flood. After a lot of thought I had to let it go because I am still working on the TR4A and don't have time or space to work on 2 cars. I found the car is currently being auctioned. I am not sure of the implications of the salvage title - flood. I was the second owner of the car, which I had for 35 years and still have original paperwork. I don' t if anyone would be interested. 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 31 11:48:45 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 10:48:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: New post on my blog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael, From your blog post: "occasionally on overrun very little if any negative pressure was evident in the crankcase so, in order to improve things a little I installed a plug in the hose which runs from the valve cover to the rear air filter and this resulted in a significant improvement" Probably because you're pulling air (and sump oil) into the crankcase through the rear main 'scroll' seal (and dipstick tube and oil filler cap hole). This is how the typical, owner-installed PCV installation on the 6-cyl cars functions as the PCV valve meters gasses both from the crankcase and the valve cover. But ... with fresh, filtered air coming in from the carb air filter you essentially had a true PCV 'system,' where the gasses--fresh air and blowby--are cycled back into the intake manifold to be burned in the cylinders. Video: The Importance Of Using A Catch Can System On 10/30/2022 10:22 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > > > Sorry forgot the link... > > Adding a PCV to a 100. > > https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-100-pcv-system/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 31 12:08:43 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:08:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: <469800322.198137.1667234104851@rogers.com> References: <469800322.198137.1667234104851@rogers.com> Message-ID: <93552923-e600-8d7f-af45-30202d03bb76@comcast.net> "... more of a problem bleeding the BN1s and BN2s? because of the master cylinder design" That's the gist of the matter. I had considerable trouble bleeding my BN2 with DoT4, with two different M/Cs. On 10/31/2022 9:34 AM, s.hutchings via Healeys wrote: > This is one of those threads that can be endless, but I would like to > add my vote for DOT 5 (silicone) fluid. > After many years of use I've had no problems,? and never inadvertently > removed paint because of a leak or spill. > I do remember there being more of a problem bleeding the BN1s and > BN2s? because of the master cylinder design. > > Stephen,? BJ8 > > > From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 31 12:10:28 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:10:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II In-Reply-To: References: <051001d8ed00$4b50f790$e1f2e6b0$@gmail.com> <001e01d8ed44$b8a96d60$29fc4820$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0fbe2e3b-5ad1-ce6b-0fb3-f34e49effa22@comcast.net> The issue is seawater will cause electrical gremlins, sometimes years later. On 10/31/2022 10:18 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote: > My son?s TR6 was in his car port in Key West when Wilma came through. > The storm surge was over the top of the car. He bought a power washer > and cut a few holes in strategic places and managed to save the body > and chassis. He forgot to drain the engine and transmission and that > was another story? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Bob > Begani via Healeys > *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2022 4:20 PM > *To:* 'Alan Seigrist' > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net ; 'Tom' > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II > > Please be advised the Flood was salt water from Hurricane IAN.? Ed > took very good care of the car. Still at the right price it could be a > good project for the right price. Location is Central Florida > > Bob > > *From:* Alan Seigrist > *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2022 9:53 AM > *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net; Tom > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark IIta > > Looks pretty easily salvageable. > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 4:34 PM Bob Begani via Healeys > wrote: > > Below is a listing for a Flood Damaged MGA if any are interested. > > Bob Begani > > *From:* Hermann Schaller > *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2022 9:25 PM > *To:* Hermann Schaller > *Subject:* 1962 MGA Mark II > > Dear BCCSWF Members, > > Our fellow member, Ed McMahon, suffered the loss of his MGA during > hurricane Ian. The remains are up for auction. > > (see the information below) > > ?Best regards > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 12:48:35 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 14:48:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: New post on my blog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think there is something to what you suggest Bob but, when I first observed the only very minor negative pressure on overrun I was somewhat confused because my thinking was that as there is minimal blow-by on overrun the PCV valve (vacuum source) should have encountered no problems keeping the crankcase evacuated. Further study however has provided what may be an explanation. Apparently the PCV valve selected, and this applies to most versions, actually throttles down the air flow at high vacuum aka overrun. I suspect that I was observing the results of this on the manometer. Closing off the original valve cover breather tube probably meant that crankcase pressure dropped further because there was less "make up" air available during these conditions. M On Mon., Oct. 31, 2022, 2:26 p.m. Bob Spidell, wrote: > Michael, > > From your blog post: > > "occasionally on overrun very little if any negative pressure was evident > in the crankcase so, in order to improve things a little I installed a plug > in the hose which runs from the valve cover to the rear air filter and this > resulted in a significant improvement" > > Probably because you're pulling air (and sump oil) into the crankcase > through the rear main 'scroll' seal (and dipstick tube and oil filler cap > hole). This is how the typical, owner-installed PCV installation on the > 6-cyl cars functions as the PCV valve meters gasses both from the crankcase > and the valve cover. But ... with fresh, filtered air coming in from the > carb air filter you essentially had a true PCV 'system,' where the > gasses--fresh air and blowby--are cycled back into the intake manifold to > be burned in the cylinders. > > > [image: Video: The Importance Of Using A Catch Can System] > > On 10/30/2022 10:22 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > > > > Sorry forgot the link... > > Adding a PCV to a 100. > > https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-100-pcv-system/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 13:26:00 2022 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 15:26:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II In-Reply-To: References: <051001d8ed00$4b50f790$e1f2e6b0$@gmail.com> <001e01d8ed44$b8a96d60$29fc4820$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <018b01d8ed5e$9ca88c30$d5f9a490$@gmail.com> Stripping the car and power washing everything asap is important. Of course, draining the engine and transmission, oil down the cylinders turning them over etc. Then decide what to do next. Maybe try to start the engine? The car was well taken car of for many years. Someone out there need another project? Tomorrow is the auction. Bob Begani From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 1:21 PM To: Bob Begani via Healeys ; 'Alan Seigrist' ; rfbegani at gmail.com Cc: 'Tom' Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II It will require a full body off resto to save probably. _____ From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 5:18 PM To: Bob Begani via Healeys >; 'Alan Seigrist' >; rfbegani at gmail.com > Cc: 'Tom' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II My son?s TR6 was in his car port in Key West when Wilma came through. The storm surge was over the top of the car. He bought a power washer and cut a few holes in strategic places and managed to save the body and chassis. He forgot to drain the engine and transmission and that was another story? _____ From: Healeys > on behalf of Bob Begani via Healeys > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 4:20 PM To: 'Alan Seigrist' > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >; 'Tom' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark II Please be advised the Flood was salt water from Hurricane IAN. Ed took very good care of the car. Still at the right price it could be a good project for the right price. Location is Central Florida Bob From: Alan Seigrist > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 9:53 AM To: rfbegani at gmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net ; Tom > Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: 1962 MGA Mark IIta Looks pretty easily salvageable. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 4:34 PM Bob Begani via Healeys > wrote: Below is a listing for a Flood Damaged MGA if any are interested. Bob Begani From: Hermann Schaller > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 9:25 PM To: Hermann Schaller > Subject: 1962 MGA Mark II Dear BCCSWF Members, Our fellow member, Ed McMahon, suffered the loss of his MGA during hurricane Ian. The remains are up for auction. (see the information below) ?Best regards Hermann Schaller _____ From: Ed McMahon > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 1:21 PM To: Hermann Schaller - PC Yacht Club >; dennis-mckinley at comcast.net >; Dennis & Gail Labbe - TR4A >; Steve Kurowski & Susan Fero > Subject: My 1962 MGA Mark II My MGA was damaged by the flood. After a lot of thought I had to let it go because I am still working on the TR4A and don't have time or space to work on 2 cars. I found the car is currently being auctioned. I am not sure of the implications of the salvage title - flood. I was the second owner of the car, which I had for 35 years and still have original paperwork. I don' t if anyone would be interested. It is listed at: 1962 MG ALL MODELS for Sale | FL - PUNTA GORDA SOUTH | Tue. Nov 01, 2022 - Used & Repairable Salvage Cars - Copart USA The auction ends on Tuesday the 1st and the current bid is $675 Ed _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 31 13:56:01 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:56:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: New post on my blog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think it's the difference between reading pressure/vacuum at the crankcase (dipstick tube) vs. pressure/vacuum at the intake manifold (where a typical vacuum gauge is mounted). PCV valves close under vacuum at the intake (small) side and open when the vacuum decreases--at part throttle or WOT--where the 'leak' is less consequential. High neg. pressure, at idle and overrun, at the intake side closes the valve--at least partially, they all seem to 'leak' some--else you'd have a massive intake leak. Hence little or no vacuum in the crankcase at overrun. At idle, the low BMP makes the blow-by less of an issue. As always, I stand ready to be corrected. On 10/31/2022 11:48 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > I think there is something to what you suggest Bob but, when I first > observed the only very minor negative pressure on overrun I? was > somewhat confused because my thinking was that as there is minimal > blow-by on overrun the PCV valve (vacuum source) should have > encountered no problems keeping the crankcase evacuated. Further study > however has provided what may be an explanation. > Apparently the PCV valve selected, and this applies to most versions, > actually throttles down the air flow at high vacuum aka overrun. > I suspect that I was observing the results of this on the manometer. > Closing off the original valve cover breather tube probably meant that > crankcase pressure dropped further because there was less "make up" > air available during these conditions. > > M > > On Mon., Oct. 31, 2022, 2:26 p.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > > Michael, > > From your blog post: > > "occasionally on overrun very little if any negative pressure was > evident in the crankcase so, in order to improve things a little I > installed a plug in the hose which runs from the valve cover to > the rear air filter and this resulted in a significant improvement" > > Probably because you're pulling air (and sump oil) into the > crankcase through the rear main 'scroll' seal (and dipstick tube > and oil filler cap hole). This is how the typical, owner-installed > PCV installation on the 6-cyl cars functions as the PCV valve > meters gasses both from the crankcase and the valve cover. But ... > with fresh, filtered air coming in from the carb air filter you > essentially had a true PCV 'system,' where the gasses--fresh air > and blowby--are cycled back into the intake manifold to be burned > in the cylinders. > > > Video: The Importance Of Using A Catch Can System > > On 10/30/2022 10:22 AM, Michael Salter wrote: >> >> >> Sorry forgot the link... >> >> Adding a PCV to a 100. >> >> https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-100-pcv-system/ >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 14:13:00 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 16:13:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: New post on my blog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think you are absolutely correct Bob. M On Mon., Oct. 31, 2022, 3:56 p.m. Bob Spidell, wrote: > I think it's the difference between reading pressure/vacuum at the > crankcase (dipstick tube) vs. pressure/vacuum at the intake manifold (where > a typical vacuum gauge is mounted). PCV valves close under vacuum at the > intake (small) side and open when the vacuum decreases--at part throttle or > WOT--where the 'leak' is less consequential. High neg. pressure, at idle > and overrun, at the intake side closes the valve--at least partially, they > all seem to 'leak' some--else you'd have a massive intake leak. Hence > little or no vacuum in the crankcase at overrun. At idle, the low BMP makes > the blow-by less of an issue. > > As always, I stand ready to be corrected. > > > > On 10/31/2022 11:48 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > > I think there is something to what you suggest Bob but, when I first > observed the only very minor negative pressure on overrun I was somewhat > confused because my thinking was that as there is minimal blow-by on > overrun the PCV valve (vacuum source) should have encountered no problems > keeping the crankcase evacuated. Further study however has provided what > may be an explanation. > Apparently the PCV valve selected, and this applies to most versions, > actually throttles down the air flow at high vacuum aka overrun. > I suspect that I was observing the results of this on the manometer. > Closing off the original valve cover breather tube probably meant that > crankcase pressure dropped further because there was less "make up" air > available during these conditions. > > M > > On Mon., Oct. 31, 2022, 2:26 p.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > >> Michael, >> >> From your blog post: >> >> "occasionally on overrun very little if any negative pressure was evident >> in the crankcase so, in order to improve things a little I installed a plug >> in the hose which runs from the valve cover to the rear air filter and this >> resulted in a significant improvement" >> >> Probably because you're pulling air (and sump oil) into the crankcase >> through the rear main 'scroll' seal (and dipstick tube and oil filler cap >> hole). This is how the typical, owner-installed PCV installation on the >> 6-cyl cars functions as the PCV valve meters gasses both from the crankcase >> and the valve cover. But ... with fresh, filtered air coming in from the >> carb air filter you essentially had a true PCV 'system,' where the >> gasses--fresh air and blowby--are cycled back into the intake manifold to >> be burned in the cylinders. >> >> >> [image: Video: The Importance Of Using A Catch Can System] >> >> On 10/30/2022 10:22 AM, Michael Salter wrote: >> >> >> >> Sorry forgot the link... >> >> Adding a PCV to a 100. >> >> https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-100-pcv-system/ >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgmoog at optonline.net Mon Oct 31 15:55:16 2022 From: cgmoog at optonline.net (Christopher Moog) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 17:55:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: <40c9eb9a-d256-d7a7-af13-d1c36882195e@comcast.net> References: <23e661b7-7533-9e72-5d82-591741d1ad6f@optonline.net> <40c9eb9a-d256-d7a7-af13-d1c36882195e@comcast.net> Message-ID: <480f57b0-ed4b-cc18-206a-dd999c808357@optonline.net> The DOT ratings are US Department of Transportation boiling point ratings (wet boiling I think) so DOT5 silicone boils the same range of temperatures as DOT5.1. 5 only denotes temperature range so not deliberately confusing but incidentally confusing. On 10/31/2022 12:35 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > "... There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 ..." > > I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1'? I also think it was deliberately > named so as to confuse the issue. > > > On 10/30/2022 8:05 PM, Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote: >> I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4. >> >> Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two different >> DOT5s. The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a newer >> Glycol Ester DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It has a >> lower viscosity than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in some ABS >> systems. It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and DOT4. Don't >> see an advantage in Healeys. >> >> >> On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: >>> The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or even >>> Dot 3 if you need to fill up.? As I understand it with Dot 5 you >>> should be careful to always use the same brand to fill up if necessary. >>> >>> Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long time, Dot >>> 4 absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into the components. >>> >>> Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed every >>> couple of years. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean >>> wrote: >>> >>> At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt >>> brake system with all new components and tubing.? Now is the >>> time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone.? What's the >>> consensus, if there is one? >>> Mike MacLean >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cgmoog at optonline.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Mon Oct 31 16:06:16 2022 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 11:06:16 +1300 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: <40c9eb9a-d256-d7a7-af13-d1c36882195e@comcast.net> References: <23e661b7-7533-9e72-5d82-591741d1ad6f@optonline.net> <40c9eb9a-d256-d7a7-af13-d1c36882195e@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000601d8ed75$0069f450$013ddcf0$@xtra.co.nz> DOT5 and DOT 5.1 are NOT compatible. I?ve have been using Bel-Ray DOT5 SBF in my BN2 and my tri-carb since 1992. I?ve never had a problem. Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Bob Spidell Sent: Monday, 31 October 2022 5:35 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid "... There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 ..." I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1' I also think it was deliberately named so as to confuse the issue. On 10/30/2022 8:05 PM, Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote: I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4. Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two different DOT5s. The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It has a lower viscosity than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in some ABS systems. It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and DOT4. Don't see an advantage in Healeys. On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or even Dot 3 if you need to fill up. As I understand it with Dot 5 you should be careful to always use the same brand to fill up if necessary. Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long time, Dot 4 absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into the components. Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed every couple of years. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean > wrote: At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake system with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone. What's the consensus, if there is one? Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Mon Oct 31 17:29:32 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 16:29:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Tonneau Cover Message-ID: I need help identifying the mystery tonneau that came with my Mk1 BT7. It looks like it should fit a BT7 but it doesn't. It is not quite wide enough and where there should be a Tenax fastener there is a Lift-The-Dot fastener. Aslo where the tonneau would attach to the dash there are two Lift-The-Dots instead of one Tenax. Could this be for a BN1 or BN2? What other cars could it be for? Thanks... Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Can?t be mixed with anything! 5. DOT 5.1 is glycol based and cannot be mixed with DOT 5. 6. DOT 5.1 can be mixed with DOT 3 or 4, as both are glycol based. The word ?synthetic? began to appear when manufacturers worked out that it made regular brake fluid sound more special ie they could charge us more money for the same old stuff. DOT stands for Dept. Of Transport and relates to the fluids? boiling points. If a car brakes at high speed, the brakes get hot. Some heat is carried away from the brakes by the brake fluid. Bad news if the fluid boils! The faster you?re going, the higher DOT you need. Higher DOT numbers indicate higher boiling points for ?Dry? fluid (has not absorbed any water) and ?Wet? fluids (has absorbed water). ie, the wetter it is, the more problematic it becomes. Mixing 3 with 4 lowers the boiling points and vice verca.? Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson Sent: 31 October 2022 22:06 To: 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid DOT5 and DOT 5.1 are NOT compatible. I?ve have been using Bel-Ray DOT5 SBF in my BN2 and my tri-carb since 1992. I?ve never had a problem. Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Bob Spidell > Sent: Monday, 31 October 2022 5:35 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid "... There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 ..." I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1' I also think it was deliberately named so as to confuse the issue. On 10/30/2022 8:05 PM, Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote: I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4. Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two different DOT5s. The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It has a lower viscosity than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in some ABS systems. It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and DOT4. Don't see an advantage in Healeys. On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or even Dot 3 if you need to fill up. As I understand it with Dot 5 you should be careful to always use the same brand to fill up if necessary. Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long time, Dot 4 absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into the components. Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed every couple of years. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean > wrote: At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake system with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone. What's the consensus, if there is one? Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ynotink at msn.com Mon Oct 31 18:44:20 2022 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 00:44:20 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: <000601d8ed75$0069f450$013ddcf0$@xtra.co.nz> References: <23e661b7-7533-9e72-5d82-591741d1ad6f@optonline.net> <40c9eb9a-d256-d7a7-af13-d1c36882195e@comcast.net> <000601d8ed75$0069f450$013ddcf0$@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: Bob, I?d say more of a problem on all of the hundreds because the front bleeder screws are on the lower slave cylinders. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 10:06 PM To: 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid DOT5 and DOT 5.1 are NOT compatible. I?ve have been using Bel-Ray DOT5 SBF in my BN2 and my tri-carb since 1992. I?ve never had a problem. Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Bob Spidell Sent: Monday, 31 October 2022 5:35 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid "... There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 ..." I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1' I also think it was deliberately named so as to confuse the issue. On 10/30/2022 8:05 PM, Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote: I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4. Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two different DOT5s. The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It has a lower viscosity than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in some ABS systems. It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and DOT4. Don't see an advantage in Healeys. On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or even Dot 3 if you need to fill up. As I understand it with Dot 5 you should be careful to always use the same brand to fill up if necessary. Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long time, Dot 4 absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into the components. Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed every couple of years. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean > wrote: At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake system with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone. What's the consensus, if there is one? Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Mon Oct 31 18:47:01 2022 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 00:47:01 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Tonneau Cover In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Definitely not for a BN1/BN2. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows From: Harold Manifold Sent: October 31, 2022 7:15 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Tonneau Cover I need help identifying the mystery tonneau that came with my Mk1 BT7. It looks like it should fit a BT7 but it doesn't. It is not quite wide enough and where there should be a Tenax fastener there is a Lift-The-Dot fastener. Aslo where the tonneau would attach to the dash there are two Lift-The-Dots instead of one Tenax. Could this be for a BN1 or BN2? What other cars could it be for? Thanks... Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgmoog at optonline.net Mon Oct 31 19:00:52 2022 From: cgmoog at optonline.net (Christopher Moog) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 21:00:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: <001401d8ed84$60406ad0$20c14070$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <23e661b7-7533-9e72-5d82-591741d1ad6f@optonline.net> <40c9eb9a-d256-d7a7-af13-d1c36882195e@comcast.net> <000601d8ed75$0069f450$013ddcf0$@xtra.co.nz> <001401d8ed84$60406ad0$20c14070$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <8fea61e3-6da8-3992-af27-0a9c9d1b568e@optonline.net> That about sums it up. On 10/31/2022 7:56 PM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: > > I made myself some notes which I later submitted to our local AH mag. > Here?s the gist of them. May have posted this before?. > > 1. ?All brake fluid is ?synthetic??it?s not a ?natural? product. > 2. Most synthetic fluids are NOT silicone. They are polyethylene > _glycol_ ether based. > 3. DOT 3 & 4, which can be mixed, are not silicone. They are glycol. > 4. DOT 5, which cannot be mixed with 3 or 4, is silicone. Can?t be > mixed with anything! > 5. DOT 5.1 is glycol based and cannot be mixed with DOT 5. > 6. DOT 5.1 can be mixed with DOT 3 or 4, as both are glycol based. > > The word ?synthetic? began to appear when manufacturers worked out > that it made regular brake fluid sound more special ie they could > charge us more money for the same old stuff. > > DOT stands for *_D_*ept. *_O_*f *_T_*ransport and relates to the > fluids? boiling points. If a car brakes at high speed, the brakes get > hot. Some heat is carried away from the brakes by the brake fluid. Bad > news if the fluid boils! The faster you?re going, the higher DOT you > need. Higher DOT numbers indicate higher boiling points for ?Dry? > fluid (has not absorbed any water) and ?Wet? fluids (has absorbed > water). ie, the wetter it is, the more problematic it becomes. Mixing > 3 with 4 lowers the boiling points and vice verca.? > > Simon > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Mark > Donaldson > *Sent:* 31 October 2022 22:06 > *To:* 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid > > DOT5 and DOT 5.1 are *NOT* compatible. > > I?ve have been using Bel-Ray DOT5 SBF in my BN2 and my tri-carb since > 1992. > > I?ve never had a problem. > > Mark > > Ardmore, NZ > > *From:*Bob Spidell > *Sent:* Monday, 31 October 2022 5:35 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid > > "... There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 ..." > > I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1'? I also think it was deliberately > named so as to confuse the issue. > > On 10/30/2022 8:05 PM, Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote: > > I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4. > > Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two different > DOT5s. The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a > newer Glycol Ester DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It > has a lower viscosity than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in > some ABS systems. It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and > DOT4. Don't see an advantage in Healeys. > > On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > > The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or > even Dot 3 if you need to fill up.? As I understand it with > Dot 5 you should be careful to always use the same brand to > fill up if necessary. > > Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long > time, Dot 4 absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into > the components. > > Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed > every couple of years. > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean > wrote: > > At this point in the restoration I have a completely > rebuilt brake system with all new components and tubing.? > Now is the time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or > Silicone.? What's the consensus, if there is one? > > Mike MacLean > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cgmoog at optonline.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 31 19:27:28 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 18:27:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: References: <23e661b7-7533-9e72-5d82-591741d1ad6f@optonline.net> <40c9eb9a-d256-d7a7-af13-d1c36882195e@comcast.net> <000601d8ed75$0069f450$013ddcf0$@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: Yeah. Forgot about that engineering faux pas. On 10/31/2022 5:44 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > Bob, I?d say more of a problem on all of the hundreds because the > front bleeder screws are on the lower slave cylinders. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Mark > Donaldson > *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2022 10:06 PM > *To:* 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid > > DOT5 and DOT 5.1 are *NOT* compatible. > > I?ve have been using Bel-Ray DOT5 SBF in my BN2 and my tri-carb since > 1992. > > I?ve never had a problem. > > Mark > > Ardmore, NZ > > *From:*Bob Spidell > *Sent:* Monday, 31 October 2022 5:35 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid > > "... There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 ..." > > I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1'? I also think it was deliberately > named so as to confuse the issue. > > On 10/30/2022 8:05 PM, Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote: > > I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4. > > Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two different > DOT5s. The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a > newer Glycol Ester DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It > has a lower viscosity than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in > some ABS systems. It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and > DOT4. Don't see an advantage in Healeys. > > On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > > The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or > even Dot 3 if you need to fill up.? As I understand it with > Dot 5 you should be careful to always use the same brand to > fill up if necessary. > > Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long > time, Dot 4 absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into > the components. > > Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed > every couple of years. > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean > wrote: > > At this point in the restoration I have a completely > rebuilt brake system with all new components and tubing.? > Now is the time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or > Silicone.? What's the consensus, if there is one? > > Mike MacLean > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 31 20:09:21 2022 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 02:09:21 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid In-Reply-To: References: <23e661b7-7533-9e72-5d82-591741d1ad6f@optonline.net> <40c9eb9a-d256-d7a7-af13-d1c36882195e@comcast.net> <000601d8ed75$0069f450$013ddcf0$@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: Just to keep the thread alive, I use DOT 4 in all 8 of our family cars and 3 motorcycles and do all the brake work on them (fluid, rotors, pads, calipers, drums, brake lines etc), including the 2 race cars (which use high heat versions) and the BN7. I also have a small ball point pen size moisture meter to test the fluid and it works well. I know Silicon DOT5 needs to be used on totally new systems. Friends that used it in new systems love it. But I know mixing it with another DOT 3 or 4 can cause jelling if it gets contaminated. So I only keep DOT 4 on my shelf. Regards, Richard C BN7 440 On Oct 31, 2022, at 20:32, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: ? Bob, I?d say more of a problem on all of the hundreds because the front bleeder screws are on the lower slave cylinders. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 10:06 PM To: 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid DOT5 and DOT 5.1 are NOT compatible. I?ve have been using Bel-Ray DOT5 SBF in my BN2 and my tri-carb since 1992. I?ve never had a problem. Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Bob Spidell Sent: Monday, 31 October 2022 5:35 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid "... There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 ..." I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1' I also think it was deliberately named so as to confuse the issue. On 10/30/2022 8:05 PM, Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote: I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4. Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two different DOT5s. The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It has a lower viscosity than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in some ABS systems. It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and DOT4. Don't see an advantage in Healeys. On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or even Dot 3 if you need to fill up. As I understand it with Dot 5 you should be careful to always use the same brand to fill up if necessary. Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long time, Dot 4 absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into the components. Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed every couple of years. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean > wrote: At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake system with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone. What's the consensus, if there is one? Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Mon Oct 31 21:03:24 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2022 03:03:24 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Fluid Message-ID: <9dfad3fb57a430f2feca8b452dd4cbac2b7f084e@webmail> Notice that earlier forms of Amber and Crimson Castrol Brake Fluid did not use the word "synthetic" at all. The introduction of that word on later editions of the liquid revealed the fact that it was not a natural product, but like todays oils, man made. Were these early forms DOT 3 or DOT 4 or was this prior to the Dept. of Transports interference? My 1966 Austin-Healey 3000 came factory equipped with Castrol Amber. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Christopher Moog via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Monday October 31 2022 7:48:02PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid That about sums it up. On 10/31/2022 7:56 PM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: I made myself some notes which I later submitted to our local AH mag. Here?s the gist of them. May have posted this before?. * ?All brake fluid is ?synthetic??it?s not a ?natural? product. * Most synthetic fluids are NOT silicone. They are polyethylene glycol ether based. * DOT 3 & 4, which can be mixed, are not silicone. They are glycol. * DOT 5, which cannot be mixed with 3 or 4, is silicone. Can?t be mixed with anything! * DOT 5.1 is glycol based and cannot be mixed with DOT 5. * DOT 5.1 can be mixed with DOT 3 or 4, as both are glycol based. The word ?synthetic? began to appear when manufacturers worked out that it made regular brake fluid sound more special ie they could charge us more money for the same old stuff. DOT stands for Dept. Of Transport and relates to the fluids? boiling points. If a car brakes at high speed, the brakes get hot. Some heat is carried away from the brakes by the brake fluid. Bad news if the fluid boils! The faster you?re going, the higher DOT you need. Higher DOT numbers indicate higher boiling points for ?Dry? fluid (has not absorbed any water) and ?Wet? fluids (has absorbed water). ie, the wetter it is, the more problematic it becomes. Mixing 3 with 4 lowers the boiling points and vice verca.? Simon FROM: Healeys ON BEHALF OF Mark Donaldson SENT: 31 October 2022 22:06 TO: 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid DOT5 and DOT 5.1 are NOT compatible. I?ve have been using Bel-Ray DOT5 SBF in my BN2 and my tri-carb since 1992. I?ve never had a problem. Mark Ardmore, NZ FROM: Bob Spidell SENT: Monday, 31 October 2022 5:35 PM TO: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid "... There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 ..." I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1' I also think it was deliberately named so as to confuse the issue. On 10/30/2022 8:05 PM, Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote: I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4. Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two different DOT5s. The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It has a lower viscosity than the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in some ABS systems. It also has a higher boiling point than DOT3 and DOT4. Don't see an advantage in Healeys. On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or even Dot 3 if you need to fill up. As I understand it with Dot 5 you should be careful to always use the same brand to fill up if necessary. Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long time, Dot 4 absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into the components. Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed every couple of years. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean wrote: At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake system with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make the decision to use DOT 4 or Silicone. What's the consensus, if there is one? 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Mike M On Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 6:24 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > Bob, I?d say more of a problem on all of the hundreds because the front > bleeder screws are on the lower slave cylinders. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Mark > Donaldson > *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2022 10:06 PM > *To:* 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net < > healeys at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid > > > DOT5 and DOT 5.1 are *NOT* compatible. > > > > I?ve have been using Bel-Ray DOT5 SBF in my BN2 and my tri-carb since 1992. > > I?ve never had a problem. > > > > Mark > > Ardmore, NZ > > > > *From:* Bob Spidell > *Sent:* Monday, 31 October 2022 5:35 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Fluid > > > > "... There is a newer Glycol Ester DOT5 ..." > > I think you're referring to 'DoT5.1' I also think it was deliberately > named so as to confuse the issue. > > On 10/30/2022 8:05 PM, Christopher Moog via Healeys wrote: > > I've used both. Currently prefer DOT4. > > Also everyone is speaking of DOT5 but there are now two different DOT5s. > The first is the older silicone based DOT5. There is a newer Glycol Ester > DOT5 that is compatible with DOT3 and DOT4. It has a lower viscosity than > the DOT3 and DOT4 so it works better in some ABS systems. It also has a > higher boiling point than DOT3 and DOT4. Don't see an advantage in Healeys. > > On 10/30/2022 10:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > > The best selling point for Dot 4 is you can mix any Dot 4 or even Dot 3 if > you need to fill up. As I understand it with Dot 5 you should be careful > to always use the same brand to fill up if necessary. > > Also, neither Dot 5 not Dot 4 is great for sitting a long time, Dot 4 > absorbs water, Dot 5 will push any water down into the components. > > Dot 4, if the car is not used regularly, needs to be flushed every couple > of years. > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 5:43 AM Michael MacLean > wrote: > > At this point in the restoration I have a completely rebuilt brake system > with all new components and tubing. Now is the time to make the decision > to use DOT 4 or Silicone. 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