From goldengt at cal.net Tue Mar 1 17:24:26 2022 From: goldengt at cal.net (goldengt at cal.net) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 16:24:26 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 4-way flasher conversion In-Reply-To: <03a201d828f9$6bc59bf0$4350d3d0$@roadrunner.com> References: <03a201d828f9$6bc59bf0$4350d3d0$@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: Bruce This is an article I wrote for my BJ8 a few years ago. It still uses the brake light relay box. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 On 2022-02-23 13:07, Bruce Steele via Healeys wrote: > Hi, all. Looking for input on installing 4-way flasher/hazard system > on a BJ7. I found a couple of options on John Sims' site. Any > experience with these, or other set ups? > > Thanks. > > Bruce Steele > > Brea, CA > > 1960 BN7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/goldengt at cal.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The tickets will be $20.If it is allowed, I will post in my next email the link you can use to purchase tickets for this event. I will also be posting this information on Facebook Healey related pages.Thanks and I hope I'm not over stepping the rules of the list.Steven KingsburyBN1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From airtightproductions at me.com Wed Mar 2 18:44:25 2022 From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2022 01:44:25 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] March 10 - more info Message-ID: <220df98d-294d-4da3-89a7-7220def631c4@me.com> So I decided to just put the link out there. If you're interested in the tour, this is the easiest way to let you know about it. I have my ticket, so here's how you can get yours if you're so inclined:https://www.eventbrite.com/e/virtual-tour-of-healey-exhibition-at-market-hall-museum-tickets-229881540877?fbclid=IwAR3_4seCeSFbjop4fLyBDiSl4GE7XCnPyJ-jcIEMnAzBsfuMgldXsEfODc8And if you live close to someone, invite them over and share the cost as you watch some rare Healey History together!Enjoy!Steven KingsburyBN1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 00:51:31 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 15:51:31 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 6cyl Exhaust manifold to pipe gasket Q Message-ID: Seems like a dumb question, is there a conventional wisdom of whether the copper side or the steel side should face up? Best Regards, Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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M On Fri., Mar. 4, 2022, 2:52 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Seems like a dumb question, is there a conventional wisdom of whether the > copper side or the steel side should face up? > > Best Regards, > > Alan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards, Alan_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Fri Mar 4 09:10:41 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:10:41 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 6cyl Exhaust manifold to pipe gasket Q In-Reply-To: <1158915636.569023.1646406465194@mail.yahoo.com> References: , <1158915636.569023.1646406465194@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5B9CEE7B-99F1-4C03-8FDC-325995861237@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Mar 4 09:48:02 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:48:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 6cyl Exhaust manifold to pipe gasket Q In-Reply-To: <5B9CEE7B-99F1-4C03-8FDC-325995861237@hxcore.ol> References: <1158915636.569023.1646406465194@mail.yahoo.com> <5B9CEE7B-99F1-4C03-8FDC-325995861237@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: <9d5f3ff5-c7e0-4394-d0ae-888882c235bd@comcast.net> It's been years since I've worked/struggled with getting an effective and durable seal at this joint--on one road trip I would reach under my BJ8 with a couple socket extensions every morning and tighten the nuts before startup--but based on 'science' alone I reasoned the silver metal (aluminum, steel?, ???) side should go against the manifold. My reasoning was that copper is an excellent heat conductor so the thin, perforated side with the insulator under it should go to the hot side. I remember the older, NOS gaskets with copper on both sides appeared to have asbestos as the insulator which, of course, works best but has been persona-non-grata for decades. Also, the brass nuts never worked well for me, but they seem to be OK on the manifold side. On 3/4/2022 8:10 AM, Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: > > I just happened to have the 3 bolt exhaust pipe gaskets on my desk. > Mine are Payen and copper on both sides. I would suggest based on this > there is no wrong side for the copper. > > Harold > > *From: *healeyguy--- via Healeys > *Sent: *Friday, March 4, 2022 7:08 AM > *To: *healey.nut at gmail.com > *Cc: *healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] 6cyl Exhaust manifold to pipe gasket Q > > Alan > > I don't have a definitive answer but checked my gaskets in the shop > and they are copper on both sides (not solid copper). Did read online > that if the gasket is smooth (metal) on one side and composite on the > other that the composite side goes down (towards the tailpipe). > > Perry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Seigrist via Healeys > To: Healey list > Sent: Fri, Mar 4, 2022 2:51 am > Subject: [Healeys] 6cyl Exhaust manifold to pipe gasket Q > > Seems like a dumb question, is there a conventional wisdom of whether > the copper side or the steel side should face up? > > Best Regards, > > Alan > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 20:28:54 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 11:28:54 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 6cyl Exhaust manifold to pipe gasket Q In-Reply-To: <9d5f3ff5-c7e0-4394-d0ae-888882c235bd@comcast.net> References: <1158915636.569023.1646406465194@mail.yahoo.com> <5B9CEE7B-99F1-4C03-8FDC-325995861237@hxcore.ol> <9d5f3ff5-c7e0-4394-d0ae-888882c235bd@comcast.net> Message-ID: All - I decided to put the steel side up since the gas flows from there and figured the hot gasses would not eat away at the lip to the copper side if it is facing down. These are decent payen gaskets i got from AH spares, Best, Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These are decent payen gaskets i got from > AH spares, > > Best, > > Alan From boyracer466 at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 22:53:34 2022 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 21:53:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 6cyl Exhaust manifold to pipe gasket Q In-Reply-To: References: <1158915636.569023.1646406465194@mail.yahoo.com> <5B9CEE7B-99F1-4C03-8FDC-325995861237@hxcore.ol> <9d5f3ff5-c7e0-4394-d0ae-888882c235bd@comcast.net> Message-ID: Here?s what I would do. I would coat both sides of the gasket with red hi-temp RTV. I would not be concerned about which way the gasket is oriented. Re-tighten the bolts after a few heat cycles. Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com > On Mar 4, 2022, at 9:04 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > Those look like good quality; the last few I've purchased from you-know-who have been perforated 'tin' on both sides with some black stuff that looks like cardboard sandwiched between. > > On 3/4/2022 7:28 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: >> All - >> >> I decided to put the steel side up since the gas flows from there and figured the hot gasses would not eat away at the lip to the copper side if it is facing down. These are decent payen gaskets i got from AH spares, >> >> Best, >> >> Alan > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 09:50:38 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 11:50:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Unknown bump stops Message-ID: I ordered these for a job many years back and for some reason they were never fitted. Now I don't remember what car they are for ... it's not a Healey. Can anyone identify them for me. Thanks, M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Added 30w non detergent oil. At first, it would shift into OD pretty quick. Now--it take forever to go into OD----a minute or more. Coming out of OD is instantaneous. The question is why so long to go into OD. Before rebuild, it would go into OD quickly and perfectly every time. I was using Redline MTL then. Could the 30 wt be a little too heavy and be creating pressure problems. Might the MTL solve the problem?Thnkstom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Mar 7 08:43:29 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 07:43:29 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] OD problems--BJ8 In-Reply-To: <1242563028.133052976.1646664839353.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1242563028.133052976.1646664839353.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: <17e25ed7-81a3-0193-bd00-d84025e8d6de@comcast.net> Either MTL or straight 30 oil should work fine. Sounds like a hydraulics issue. First, check your oil level. If OK, if you can, take your car to the shop that rebuilt it; they should at least be willing to help you diagnose the problem. If not possible, you'll need to check pump pressure; you need a gauge and adapter to check it. If you don't have a shop--or a club or helpful Healey owner nearby--that can test it you can get a gauge: http://www.geocities.ws/jholekamp/ The pump shouldn't wear that fast; it's possible a piece of crud got under the pump check valve or something went wrong in the accumulator. Flushing your oil--check the screen under the big brass nut--might help, but it's not likely. Did the problem happen suddenly, or over time/miles? On 3/7/2022 6:53 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote: > Several months ago I had the OD unit rebuilt (BJ8)---new brass parts.? > Added 30w non detergent oil.? At first, it would shift into OD pretty > quick.? Now--it take forever to go into OD----a minute or more.? > Coming out of OD is instantaneous. > > The question is why so long to go into OD.? Before rebuild, it would > go into OD quickly and perfectly every time.? I was using Redline MTL > then. > > Could the 30 wt be a little too heavy and be creating pressure > problems.? Might the MTL solve the problem? > > Thnks > tom > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 10:03:50 2022 From: healeydoc at gmail.com (David Nock) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 09:03:50 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] OD problems--BJ8 In-Reply-To: <17e25ed7-81a3-0193-bd00-d84025e8d6de@comcast.net> References: <1242563028.133052976.1646664839353.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> <17e25ed7-81a3-0193-bd00-d84025e8d6de@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0C6EA2C99CC2432D960F251A932C9E8E@DavidNockHP> The overdrive solinoid adjustment has probably slipped. Not raising the operating rod sufficently. David Nock British Car Specialists 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com From: Bob Spidell Sent: Monday, March 07, 2022 7:43 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD problems--BJ8 Either MTL or straight 30 oil should work fine. Sounds like a hydraulics issue. First, check your oil level. If OK, if you can, take your car to the shop that rebuilt it; they should at least be willing to help you diagnose the problem. If not possible, you'll need to check pump pressure; you need a gauge and adapter to check it. If you don't have a shop--or a club or helpful Healey owner nearby--that can test it you can get a gauge: http://www.geocities.ws/jholekamp/ The pump shouldn't wear that fast; it's possible a piece of crud got under the pump check valve or something went wrong in the accumulator. Flushing your oil--check the screen under the big brass nut--might help, but it's not likely. Did the problem happen suddenly, or over time/miles? On 3/7/2022 6:53 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote: Several months ago I had the OD unit rebuilt (BJ8)---new brass parts. Added 30w non detergent oil. At first, it would shift into OD pretty quick. Now--it take forever to go into OD----a minute or more. Coming out of OD is instantaneous. The question is why so long to go into OD. Before rebuild, it would go into OD quickly and perfectly every time. I was using Redline MTL then. Could the 30 wt be a little too heavy and be creating pressure problems. Might the MTL solve the problem? 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When trying to start the car the starter would short out and the electrical system would completely shut down. In checking the battery connection, it was discovered disconnecting and reconnecting the ground from the battery the electrical system became live. There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to and from the ignition switch. I doubt it was installed at the factory, maybe by the restorer? What am I looking for under the dash? It is a great idea, however I want to know what is it and where it is located. Bob Begani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Fortunately, the first time was temporary and I got home again before it happened the next time. Steve Byers BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Begani via Healeys Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems My high torque starter stopped operating. Determined it is the solenoid, so I will be removing it the starter for a bench test. Meanwhile, we discovered an interesting electrical situation. When trying to start the car the starter would short out and the electrical system would completely shut down. In checking the battery connection, it was discovered disconnecting and reconnecting the ground from the battery the electrical system became live. There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to and from the ignition switch. I doubt it was installed at the factory, maybe by the restorer? What am I looking for under the dash? It is a great idea, however I want to know what is it and where it is located. Bob Begani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Thu Mar 10 12:46:02 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:46:02 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems Message-ID: <383949c29608c121e703dc2529303fa1655fe059@webmail> Bob-there is nothing else under the dash on Healeys. There is no ballast resistor which would affect starting. If the starter is bad, it created a direct short to the batteries and by lifting the Positive ground cable it relived the short. The only other interruption in the line between the batteries and the starter is the shut-off switch, which you eliminated. Hank -----------------------------------------From: rfbegani at gmail.com To: "BJ8Healeys" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday March 10 2022 11:34:16AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems It is not the cutoff switch because I replaced it twice over the years and gave up with using one. Keep thinking I would rebuild the original one that came with the car and never got around to it. Wonder if the new BJ8 cut off switches from Moss are any good? Must be something else in line under the dash, Thanks Steve, Bob Begani FROM: BJ8Healeys SENT: Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM TO: rfbegani at gmail.com SUBJECT: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems The cutoff switch in the boot shorting out? Something similar happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home. Fortunately, the first time was temporary and I got home again before it happened the next time. Steve Byers BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA FROM: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] ON BEHALF OF Bob Begani via Healeys SENT: Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM TO: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems My high torque starter stopped operating. Determined it is the solenoid, so I will be removing it the starter for a bench test. Meanwhile, we discovered an interesting electrical situation. When trying to start the car the starter would short out and the electrical system would completely shut down. In checking the battery connection, it was discovered disconnecting and reconnecting the ground from the battery the electrical system became live. There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to and from the ignition switch. I doubt it was installed at the factory, maybe by the restorer? What am I looking for under the dash? It is a great idea, however I want to know what is it and where it is located. Bob Begani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 050.rpl at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 17:02:12 2022 From: 050.rpl at gmail.com (R. Lindsay) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:02:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems In-Reply-To: <069501d834b5$a85928d0$f90b7a70$@gmail.com> References: <069501d834b5$a85928d0$f90b7a70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <41FDE520-4658-4B9E-8D69-48A70E3B8AA1@gmail.com> Try connecting wire from the battery directly to ground. Price Lindsay Sent from my iPad > On Mar 10, 2022, at 2:33 PM, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote: > > ? > It is not the cutoff switch because I replaced it twice over the years and gave up with using one. Keep thinking I would rebuild the original one that came with the car and never got around to it. Wonder if the new BJ8 cut off switches from Moss are any good? > > Must be something else in line under the dash, > > Thanks Steve, > > Bob Begani > > From: BJ8Healeys > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM > To: rfbegani at gmail.com > Subject: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > The cutoff switch in the boot shorting out? > Something similar happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home. Fortunately, the first time was temporary and I got home again before it happened the next time. > > Steve Byers > BJ8 Registry > AHCA Delegate at Large > Havelock, NC USA > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Begani via Healeys > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > My high torque starter stopped operating. Determined it is the solenoid, so I will be removing it the starter for a bench test. Meanwhile, we discovered an interesting electrical situation. When trying to start the car the starter would short out and the electrical system would completely shut down. In checking the battery connection, it was discovered disconnecting and reconnecting the ground from the battery the electrical system became live. There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to and from the ignition switch. I doubt it was installed at the factory, maybe by the restorer? What am I looking for under the dash? It is a great idea, however I want to know what is it and where it is located. > > Bob Begani > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/050.rpl at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roggrace at telus.net Thu Mar 10 17:13:26 2022 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 16:13:26 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems In-Reply-To: <383949c29608c121e703dc2529303fa1655fe059@webmail> References: <383949c29608c121e703dc2529303fa1655fe059@webmail> Message-ID: Yes agree. That hi torque motor is likely a shunt motor with lower current (= lighter windings) than a regular series connected starter. Surprised that there was no smoke or heat if it was shorted ! Perhaps you removed quickly. In effect you have shorted the batt +ve and -ve poles so no voltage anywhere else. rg On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:46 AM Henry G Leach via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Bob-there is nothing else under the dash on Healeys. There is no ballast > resistor which would affect starting. If the starter is bad, it created a > direct short to the batteries and by lifting the Positive ground cable it > relived the short. The only other interruption in the line between the > batteries and the starter is the shut-off switch, which you eliminated. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: rfbegani at gmail.com > To: "BJ8Healeys" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday March 10 2022 11:34:16AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > It is not the cutoff switch because I replaced it twice over the years and > gave up with using one. Keep thinking I would rebuild the original one > that came with the car and never got around to it. Wonder if the new BJ8 > cut off switches from Moss are any good? > > > > Must be something else in line under the dash, > > > > Thanks Steve, > > > > Bob Begani > > > > *From:* BJ8Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM > *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com > *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > > > The cutoff switch in the boot shorting out? > > Something similar happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home. > Fortunately, the first time was temporary and I got home again before it > happened the next time. > > > > Steve Byers > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC USA > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of* > Bob Begani via Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > > > My high torque starter stopped operating. Determined it is the solenoid, > so I will be removing it the starter for a bench test. Meanwhile, we > discovered an interesting electrical situation. When trying to start the > car the starter would short out and the electrical system would completely > shut down. In checking the battery connection, it was discovered > disconnecting and reconnecting the ground from the battery the electrical > system became live. There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to and > from the ignition switch. I doubt it was installed at the factory, maybe > by the restorer? What am I looking for under the dash? It is a great > idea, however I want to know what is it and where it is located. > > > > Bob Begani > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 17:48:00 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 08:48:00 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems In-Reply-To: <41FDE520-4658-4B9E-8D69-48A70E3B8AA1@gmail.com> References: <069501d834b5$a85928d0$f90b7a70$@gmail.com> <41FDE520-4658-4B9E-8D69-48A70E3B8AA1@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes agreed, the cutoff switches can go bad. Best, Alan On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 8:02 AM R. Lindsay via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Try connecting wire from the battery directly to ground. > > Price Lindsay > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 10, 2022, at 2:33 PM, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote: > > ? > > It is not the cutoff switch because I replaced it twice over the years and > gave up with using one. Keep thinking I would rebuild the original one > that came with the car and never got around to it. Wonder if the new BJ8 > cut off switches from Moss are any good? > > > > Must be something else in line under the dash, > > > > Thanks Steve, > > > > Bob Begani > > > > *From:* BJ8Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM > *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com > *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > > > The cutoff switch in the boot shorting out? > > Something similar happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home. > Fortunately, the first time was temporary and I got home again before it > happened the next time. > > > > Steve Byers > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC USA > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > ] *On Behalf Of *Bob Begani via Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > > > My high torque starter stopped operating. Determined it is the solenoid, > so I will be removing it the starter for a bench test. Meanwhile, we > discovered an interesting electrical situation. When trying to start the > car the starter would short out and the electrical system would completely > shut down. In checking the battery connection, it was discovered > disconnecting and reconnecting the ground from the battery the electrical > system became live. There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to and > from the ignition switch. I doubt it was installed at the factory, maybe > by the restorer? What am I looking for under the dash? It is a great > idea, however I want to know what is it and where it is located. > > > > Bob Begani > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/050.rpl at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Mar 10 18:03:13 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 17:03:13 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems In-Reply-To: <383949c29608c121e703dc2529303fa1655fe059@webmail> References: <383949c29608c121e703dc2529303fa1655fe059@webmail> Message-ID: I've seen a few discussions over the years by people wondering if there was a way to put a circuit breaker on the starter circuit. Maybe someone fitted a CB, or a fuse, along the long cable run from the battery to the starter, under the car? A fuse would be easiest but, of course, you'd have to replace it every time you had a short. On 3/10/2022 11:46 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: > Bob-there is nothing else under the dash on Healeys. There is no > ballast resistor which would affect starting. If the starter is bad, > it created a direct short to the batteries and by lifting the Positive > ground cable it relived the short. The only other interruption in the > line between the batteries and the starter is the shut-off switch, > which you eliminated. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: rfbegani at gmail.com > To: "BJ8Healeys" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday March 10 2022 11:34:16AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > It is not the cutoff switch because I replaced it twice over the years > and gave up with using one.? Keep thinking I would rebuild the > original one that came with the car and never got around to it. Wonder > if the new BJ8 cut off switches from Moss are any good? > > Must be something else in line under the dash, > > Thanks Steve, > > Bob Begani > > *From:* BJ8Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM > *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com > *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > The cutoff switch in the boot shorting out? > > Something similar happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home. > Fortunately, the first time was temporary and I got home again before > it happened the next time. > > Steve Byers > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC USA > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of* > Bob Begani via Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > My high torque starter stopped operating. Determined it is the > solenoid, so I will be removing it the starter for a bench test.? > Meanwhile, we discovered an interesting electrical situation.? When > trying to start the car the starter would short out and the electrical > system would completely shut down.? In checking the battery > connection, it was discovered disconnecting and reconnecting the > ground from the battery the electrical system became live. There must > be a GFI type of device in the wires to and from the ignition switch.? > I doubt it was installed at the factory, maybe by the restorer?? What > am I looking for under the dash?? It is a great idea, however I want > to know what is it and where it is located. > > Bob Begani > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 19:40:17 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:40:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems In-Reply-To: References: <383949c29608c121e703dc2529303fa1655fe059@webmail> Message-ID: Resettable circuit breakers are common in marine starting systems but they require manual resets. The original poster seemed to have been describing a situation where something was tripping and then automatically resetting, akin to a light-duty thermal breaker, which I have never seen in a car. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 8:03 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > I've seen a few discussions over the years by people wondering if there > was a way to put a circuit breaker on the starter circuit. Maybe someone > fitted a CB, or a fuse, along the long cable run from the battery to the > starter, under the car? A fuse would be easiest but, of course, you'd have > to replace it every time you had a short. > > > On 3/10/2022 11:46 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: > > Bob-there is nothing else under the dash on Healeys. There is no ballast > resistor which would affect starting. If the starter is bad, it created a > direct short to the batteries and by lifting the Positive ground cable it > relived the short. The only other interruption in the line between the > batteries and the starter is the shut-off switch, which you eliminated. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: rfbegani at gmail.com > To: "BJ8Healeys" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday March 10 2022 11:34:16AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > It is not the cutoff switch because I replaced it twice over the years and > gave up with using one. Keep thinking I would rebuild the original one > that came with the car and never got around to it. Wonder if the new BJ8 > cut off switches from Moss are any good? > > > > Must be something else in line under the dash, > > > > Thanks Steve, > > > > Bob Begani > > > > *From:* BJ8Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM > *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com > *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > > > The cutoff switch in the boot shorting out? > > Something similar happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home. > Fortunately, the first time was temporary and I got home again before it > happened the next time. > > > > Steve Byers > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC USA > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of* > Bob Begani via Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems > > > > My high torque starter stopped operating. Determined it is the solenoid, > so I will be removing it the starter for a bench test. Meanwhile, we > discovered an interesting electrical situation. When trying to start the > car the starter would short out and the electrical system would completely > shut down. In checking the battery connection, it was discovered > disconnecting and reconnecting the ground from the battery the electrical > system became live. There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to and > from the ignition switch. I doubt it was installed at the factory, maybe > by the restorer? What am I looking for under the dash? It is a great > idea, however I want to know what is it and where it is located. > > > > Bob Begani > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexmm at roadrunner.com Fri Mar 11 06:48:22 2022 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 08:48:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems In-Reply-To: References: <069501d834b5$a85928d0$f90b7a70$@gmail.com> <41FDE520-4658-4B9E-8D69-48A70E3B8AA1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0cade4ad-7764-8cf8-c731-b75fe8d28003@roadrunner.com> There are nice heavy-duty rotary cut-off switches available at marine supply houses. They easily fit the available space. == Alex in Maine 1960 BT7, 1946 MG-TC On 3/10/2022 7:48 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > Yes agreed, the cutoff switches can go bad. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 8:02 AM R. Lindsay via Healeys > > wrote: > > Try connecting wire from the battery directly to ground. > > Price Lindsay > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 10, 2022, at 2:33 PM, rfbegani at gmail.com >> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> It is not the cutoff switch because I replaced it twice over the >> years and gave up with using one. Keep thinking I would rebuild >> the original one that came with the car and never got around to >> it.? Wonder if the new BJ8 cut off switches from Moss are any good? >> >> Must be something else in line under the dash, >> >> Thanks Steve, >> >> Bob Begani >> >> *From:* BJ8Healeys > >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM >> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com >> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems >> >> The cutoff switch in the boot shorting out? >> >> Something similar happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home. >> Fortunately, the first time was temporary and I got home again >> before it happened the next time. >> >> Steve Byers >> >> BJ8 Registry >> >> AHCA Delegate at Large >> >> Havelock, NC? USA >> >> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf >> Of *Bob Begani via Healeys >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM >> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems >> >> My high torque starter stopped operating. Determined it is the >> solenoid, so I will be removing it the starter for a bench test.? >> Meanwhile, we discovered an interesting electrical situation. >> When trying to start the car the starter would short out and the >> electrical system would completely shut down.? In checking the >> battery connection, it was discovered disconnecting and >> reconnecting the ground from the battery the electrical system >> became live.? There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to >> and from the ignition switch.? I doubt it was installed at the >> factory, maybe by the restorer?? What am I looking for under the >> dash?? It is a great idea, however I want to know what is it and >> where it is located. >> >> Bob Begani >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/050.rpl at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alexmm at roadrunner.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 15:11:13 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 17:11:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Horns again In-Reply-To: <002401d83591$39bdcde0$ad3969a0$@sympatico.ca> References: <002401d83591$39bdcde0$ad3969a0$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: I suspect this is a question of gender ... female sounds are usually a higher in tone, well they certainly are around here, so the lower tone horn should unquestionably go on the left because .... you know the rest ?? On Fri., Mar. 11, 2022, 4:46 p.m. m.g.sharp--- via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi all, I can?t imagine there is any practical difference, but I am about > to mount restored horns on my BT7 and wondered if there is any convention > as to whether the Hi-tone horn goes on one side and the Low-tone on the > other. 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Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 5:11 PM Michael Salter wrote: > I suspect this is a question of gender ... female sounds are usually a > higher in tone, well they certainly are around here, so the lower tone horn > should unquestionably go on the left because .... you know the rest ?? > > On Fri., Mar. 11, 2022, 4:46 p.m. m.g.sharp--- via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Hi all, I can?t imagine there is any practical difference, but I am >> about to mount restored horns on my BT7 and wondered if there is any >> convention as to whether the Hi-tone horn goes on one side and the Low-tone >> on the other. 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On Fri., Mar. 11, 2022, 5:16 p.m. Michael Oritt, wrote: > Michael-- > > Most--but not all--men "dress left". > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 5:11 PM Michael Salter > wrote: > >> I suspect this is a question of gender ... female sounds are usually a >> higher in tone, well they certainly are around here, so the lower tone horn >> should unquestionably go on the left because .... you know the rest ?? >> >> On Fri., Mar. 11, 2022, 4:46 p.m. m.g.sharp--- via Healeys, < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, I can?t imagine there is any practical difference, but I am >>> about to mount restored horns on my BT7 and wondered if there is any >>> convention as to whether the Hi-tone horn goes on one side and the Low-tone >>> on the other. 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URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 15:19:42 2022 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 17:19:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Using a Quick Jack on a BJ8 Healey In-Reply-To: References: <014701d8358f$25e15730$71a40590$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <01ce01d83596$1b8e5970$52ab0c50$@gmail.com> If you are positioning the front of the QJ under the motor mounts, then you are on the frame and that limits getting underneath the engine? Don?t you find it difficult to reach under and in between the QJ frame? By moving to the outriggers, you have an extra foot of work space underneath which means you can use a crawler underneath. The use of a hydraulic jack or jack stands is just to stabilize the front end. Actually, I just raised the car again and tried to move the front end down and it is stable, but, will still install a loosely attached stabilizer in the front. I will always have the QJ in the fully locked position with the hydraulic ram at rest. The doors are rather difficult to open, so I have to remember to leave them ajar. Bob From: Randy Alkins Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 4:48 PM To: Robert Begani Subject: Re: [Healeys] Using a Quick Jack on a BJ8 Healey I position my Qjack unde the motor mounts in the front as that is the area of most weight. Be very careful if you try to lower onto jack stands as the car will tend to move forward as it lowers. Be careful as then rams for lifting can creep down and make the car tilted if you put a jack under the frame. On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 4:30 PM Bob Begani via Healeys > wrote: Sorry for my photos being in the wrong sequence. To the right #5 shows my first raising, lowering, on the frame and noticing it is difficult to get to the trans and engine. As my outriggers are rock solid on the right side of the car #7 I decided to test using the out riggers. This is the easy side because no exhaust pipes in the way, as you can see in picture #5. In picture #6 and #3 a little pushing and shoving to get the QJ platforms in the right place to allow the blocks to meet the outriggers firmly. Now that I know how it fits I will be able to get the car up on the QJ quicker. As mentioned by one of the listeners, unfortunately, due to the weight of the engine the front of the car will require jack stands or a jack holding the front frame solidly while under the car. Let me know what you think of this layout and any other you have discovered. Now I can go about removing the interior and the trans to find the oil leaks coming from the engine plate. 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Why would one side fit perfect and not the other? The frame brackets in the channel are exactly the same size. Considered grinding the bottom frame piece to fit. This makes me think about how well the Triplex glass is going to fit. Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20220312_140318.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5108455 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sentenac.rw at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 15:53:00 2022 From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 14:53:00 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Windscreen Frame Fit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If I understand your words and photo correctly it looks as if the bottom piece of your frame has been bent away at the tip. It's brass and easy for plating shops to drop a piece onto a hard surface and create a bend like that. It can be bent back. No metal removal involved as far as I can see. I'm sending you a photo of my car's frame corner separately because I don't know how to attach it on my phone. There is no graceful curve bent into the tip like yours. -Roland On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 2:22 PM Michael MacLean wrote: > Doing a dry frame assembly to check fit before installing the glass in my > BN2 windscreen. Going along swimmingly for the first 3 perfect fit corners > until the last one on the lower passenger side. The first 3 fit edge to > edge nicely, but the fourth one has an overlap as you can see in the > picture. Can't figure this out. Why would one side fit perfect and not > the other? The frame brackets in the channel are exactly the same size. > Considered grinding the bottom frame piece to fit. This makes me think > about how well the Triplex glass is going to fit. > Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 15:54:25 2022 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 14:54:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Windscreen Message-ID: Picture of assembled windscreen without glass. Fit is good except for the lower right frame edge to edge. Pillars chrome plated. I would not recommend chrome plating the pillars as the plating does not like the alloy the pillars are made from. I have small specks in the chrome where the pillar "gassed out" during the process. Looks good anything over three feet away, but not what I was hoping for. Now, if I can only fit the glass without breaking it... Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20220312_143132.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4855382 bytes Desc: not available URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 12:59:33 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 14:59:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Side screen brackets Message-ID: Anyone remember what car these are from? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They were on an aftermarket set of windows that fit the original window opening but had two panes, the rear one of which slid forward. If you need verification I could see if I still have the pieces buried somewhere. Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 3:00 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Anyone remember what car these are from? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is pointed out in the IPB illustration of the Moss catalog, but of course it is N/A.Mike MacLean_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 21:28:58 2022 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:28:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Screw type/size In-Reply-To: <2137070179.2934039.1647387985537@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2137070179.2934039.1647387985537@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mike, there are three hex screws per stanchion, the two lower ones are 1/4" UNF, and the upper most screw with the pointed tip is 5/16" UNF. There is a large, thick fender sized flat washer and a spring washer that are screwed in from the inside. On Tue, Mar 15, 2022, 16:47 jomar healey via Healeys wrote: > According to the BN2 Bolt list they are 4FNZ104 which I think, be others > know better, Translate to 1/4 bolt 5/8 long. But please check my > translation > > On Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 05:46:39 PM EDT, Michael MacLean < > springer.mike51 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Can someone tell me the type, thread size, length, etc. for the screw > that goes in this threaded hole of my BN2 stanchion? It is pointed out in > the IPB illustration of the Moss catalog, but of course it is N/A. > Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But please check my >> translation >> >> On Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 05:46:39 PM EDT, Michael MacLean < >> springer.mike51 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Can someone tell me the type, thread size, length, etc. for the screw >> that goes in this threaded hole of my BN2 stanchion? It is pointed out in >> the IPB illustration of the Moss catalog, but of course it is N/A. >> Mike MacLean >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks - Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of Peter Svilans via Healeys Sent: March 16, 2022 11:00 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] wiper arms Hi Mirek, The roadster arms are indeed quite different than the convertible arms. The pre-BJ7 arms have a leaf spring and they are straight (blades are parallel to the arms), with a J-shaped insert into the blade. BJ7 and BJ8 arms have a coil spring and have a straight push into the blade. The BJ7/8 arms are are bent at the ends so the blades park along the bottom windshield rubber. There was a difference also between BJ7 and BJ8 arms in that the BJ7 arms were not able to sit up off the windshield by themselves when lifted, but the BJ8 arms stayed upright. Best, Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Mar 16 11:06:49 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 10:06:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] wiper arms In-Reply-To: <006c01d83955$cd390860$67ab1920$@sympatico.ca> References: <003901d8392c$49d5c400$dd814c00$@sympatico.ca> <9a0e3c977794839bd56ce738d5cbff38@xplornet.ca> <006c01d83955$cd390860$67ab1920$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Years ago someone--I think on this list*--clued me in to a Rockauto closeout. IIRC, I bought 10 or 12 for about a buck apiece; they can come apart or come off their spindles. Bob * He asked me to keep it under wraps, but it's probably been 10 or more years ago. On 3/16/2022 9:49 AM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: > > Supplemental request.? Could someone with a BJ7 or BJ8, with the later > coil spring to hold the wiper arm to the windscreen, measure the > length of the arm for me.? The convertibles had higher windscreens? > than the roadsters and I am wondering if the wiper arms are longer. > > Thanks - Mirek > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Peter > Svilans via Healeys > *Sent:* March 16, 2022 11:00 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] wiper arms > > Hi Mirek, > > The roadster arms are indeed quite different than the convertible > arms.? The pre-BJ7 arms have a leaf spring and they are straight > (blades are parallel to the arms), with a J-shaped insert into the > blade.? BJ7 and BJ8 arms have a coil spring and have a straight push > into the blade. The BJ7/8 arms are are bent at the ends so the blades > park along the bottom windshield rubber.? There was a difference also > between BJ7 and BJ8 arms in that the BJ7 arms were not able to sit up > off the windshield by themselves when lifted, but the BJ8 arms stayed > upright. > > Best, > > Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wiper.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1007145 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Mar 16 11:46:59 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 10:46:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] wiper arms In-Reply-To: References: <003901d8392c$49d5c400$dd814c00$@sympatico.ca> <9a0e3c977794839bd56ce738d5cbff38@xplornet.ca> <006c01d83955$cd390860$67ab1920$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Ack ... looks like my reading comprehension is failing. On 3/16/2022 10:06 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Years ago someone--I think on this list*--clued me in to a Rockauto > closeout. IIRC, I bought 10 or 12 for about a buck apiece; they can > come apart or come off their spindles. > > Bob > > * He asked me to keep it under wraps, but it's probably been 10 or > more years ago. > > On 3/16/2022 9:49 AM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: >> >> Supplemental request.? Could someone with a BJ7 or BJ8, with the >> later coil spring to hold the wiper arm to the windscreen, measure >> the length of the arm for me.? The convertibles had higher >> windscreens? than the roadsters and I am wondering if the wiper arms >> are longer. >> >> Thanks - Mirek >> >> *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Peter >> Svilans via Healeys >> *Sent:* March 16, 2022 11:00 AM >> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] wiper arms >> >> Hi Mirek, >> >> The roadster arms are indeed quite different than the convertible >> arms.? The pre-BJ7 arms have a leaf spring and they are straight >> (blades are parallel to the arms), with a J-shaped insert into the >> blade.? BJ7 and BJ8 arms have a coil spring and have a straight push >> into the blade. The BJ7/8 arms are are bent at the ends so the blades >> park along the bottom windshield rubber.? There was a difference also >> between BJ7 and BJ8 arms in that the BJ7 arms were not able to sit up >> off the windshield by themselves when lifted, but the BJ8 arms stayed >> upright. >> >> Best, >> >> Peter >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Curtis Arndt via Healeys To: jomar healey Cc: Ahealey help Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2022 10:28 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Screw type/size Mike,? there are three hex screws per stanchion, the two lower ones are 1/4" UNF, and the upper most screw with the pointed tip is 5/16" UNF. There is a large, thick fender sized flat washer and a spring washer that are screwed in from the inside.? On Tue, Mar 15, 2022, 16:47 jomar healey via Healeys wrote: According to the BN2 Bolt list they are 4FNZ104 which I think, be others know better, Translate to 1/4 bolt 5/8 long.? But please check my translation On Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 05:46:39 PM EDT, Michael MacLean wrote: Can someone tell me the type, thread size, length, etc.? for the screw that goes in this threaded hole of my BN2 stanchion?? 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The inner frame superstructure was removed to do rust repair to the frame then welded back on. The frame was put in a fixture to keep it square and straight, but there was no such fixture to Weld the inner frame to the "ladder". You can see the result in the picture. By the way, the other side (driver's side) lines up fine. Another benefit from not having the original cockpit trim is some ends are too long and the holes in the doors and shrouds do not exactly line up with the holes in the trim. Notice the angle of the screw head in the door trim. Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The nice aluminum cockpit trim can be bent to fit better and you might have to use a spacer block between the trim and body inner body panel P Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 16, 2022, at 6:43 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > ? > Just had the cockpit (can you still say that?) trim powder coated to a very close facsimile of bright dip anodizing. Installing the trim broght home the fact this car is a hodge podge of parts from many different cars. The doors are from another car. The inner frame superstructure was removed to do rust repair to the frame then welded back on. The frame was put in a fixture to keep it square and straight, but there was no such fixture to Weld the inner frame to the "ladder". You can see the result in the picture. By the way, the other side (driver's side) lines up fine. Another benefit from not having the original cockpit trim is some ends are too long and the holes in the doors and shrouds do not exactly line up with the holes in the trim. 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Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Perry Small via Healeys" To: "Michael MacLean" Cc: "healeys" Sent: Wednesday March 16 2022 6:47:47PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fit This will not help Michael with his situation but it illustrates an old Austin axiom. ?Completely build the car before doing the finial finishes.? Use all the parts and fasteners that you intend to use on the finished car and adjust things to get a decent fit. Dismantle and final finish the bits. Reassemble. Michael the door fit can be tweaked a bit to get the outer trailing edge to line up with the rear guard. The nice aluminum cockpit trim can be bent to fit better and you might have to use a spacer block between the trim and body inner body panel P Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 16, 2022, at 6:43 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > ? > Just had the cockpit (can you still say that?) trim powder coated to a very close facsimile of bright dip anodizing. Installing the trim broght home the fact this car is a hodge podge of parts from many different cars. The doors are from another car. The inner frame superstructure was removed to do rust repair to the frame then welded back on. The frame was put in a fixture to keep it square and straight, but there was no such fixture to Weld the inner frame to the "ladder". You can see the result in the picture. By the way, the other side (driver's side) lines up fine. Another benefit from not having the original cockpit trim is some ends are too long and the holes in the doors and shrouds do not exactly line up with the holes in the trim. Notice the angle of the screw head in the door trim. > Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have some original ?Rainbow Made in England? wiper blades > but the rubber has disintegrated. Are there refills available? The refills > are 9? long and 3/8? wide. > > Is there a source and part number? > > > > Harold > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 12:23:08 2022 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 11:23:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rainbow Wiper Blade Refills In-Reply-To: References: <1F761D3E-FAD9-4C25-988B-28E760A73678@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: I have replaced the rubber only in my original Rainbow wipers. Look around, there are refills that fit. You may need to cut them to length. Mike MacLean On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 11:06 AM Curtis Arndt via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Harold, > > They used to be available from Moss, but who knows now, it's been years > since I got mine. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 9:39 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> >> A previous post triggered me to look at my collection of wiper arms and >> wiper blades. I have some original ?Rainbow Made in England? wiper blades >> but the rubber has disintegrated. Are there refills available? The refills >> are 9? long and 3/8? wide. >> >> Is there a source and part number? >> >> >> >> Harold >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/springer.mike51 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Harold Manifold Sent: Friday, 18 March 2022 5:38 AM To: Ken Fleming via Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Rainbow Wiper Blade Refills Hello, A previous post triggered me to look at my collection of wiper arms and wiper blades. I have some original ?Rainbow Made in England? wiper blades but the rubber has disintegrated. Are there refills available? The refills are 9? long and 3/8? wide. Is there a source and part number? Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 10677 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Bob Begani From: Healeys On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson via Healeys Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 8:23 PM To: 'Harold Manifold' ; 'Ken Fleming via Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rainbow Wiper Blade Refills Harold, I too have the original ?Rainbow? wiper assemblies on my BN2 and my tri-carb. Back in the eighties, when I lived in Kitsilano, I used to be able to buy rubber blade inserts from Canadian Tire. They stocked several different profiles including an almost exact fit for the flexible blade holder. They were longer than 9? so I simply cut them to length. Down here in Auckland I?ve found a very similar profile made by Repco. Not that it?s any use to you being down here in the Antipodes. Keep it shiny side up, Mark Ardmore NZ This is the profile I use. From: Harold Manifold > Sent: Friday, 18 March 2022 5:38 AM To: Ken Fleming via Healeys > Subject: [Healeys] Rainbow Wiper Blade Refills Hello, A previous post triggered me to look at my collection of wiper arms and wiper blades. I have some original ?Rainbow Made in England? wiper blades but the rubber has disintegrated. Are there refills available? The refills are 9? long and 3/8? wide. Is there a source and part number? Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 10677 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 11596 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Mar 18 19:39:20 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:39:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! Message-ID: <517b56c5-cf47-1662-9983-06080ba722cf@comcast.net> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric-at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Mar 18 19:39:41 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:39:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! Message-ID: I have no words ... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric-at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews From michael.oritt at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 19:55:06 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 21:55:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well we won't have to talk about several perennial topics such as overheating, which engine/transmission oil to use or whether one should convert to negative ground to name just a few. I wonder if they will figure out a way to replicate and broadcast the iconic sound of a Healey running up/down through the gears? Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 9:40 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > I have no words ... > > > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric-at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I wonder if they > will figure out a way to replicate and broadcast the iconic sound of a > Healey running up/down through the gears? > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 9:40 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > >> I have no words ... >> >> >> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric-at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I wonder if they >> will figure out a way to replicate and broadcast the iconic sound of a >> Healey running up/down through the gears? >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 9:40 PM Bob Spidell wrote: >> >>> I have no words ... >>> >>> >>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric-at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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M On Fri., Mar. 18, 2022, 9:55 p.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, wrote: Well we won't have to talk about several perennial topics such as overheating, which engine/transmission oil to use or whether one should convert to negative ground to name just a few. I wonder if they will figure out a way to replicate and broadcast the iconic sound of a Healey running up/down through the gears? Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 9:40 PM Bob Spidell wrote: I have no words ... 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It would be easy to have small pumps and discretely located reservoirs to replicate oil leaks and radiator boil-over plus heaters to make the interior unbearable--just some of the conditions we love to hate. Best-Michael Oritt On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 10:04 PM Michael Salter > wrote: Oh ... but the lack of oil leaks ... just wouldn't be the same. M On Fri., Mar. 18, 2022, 9:55 p.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, > wrote: Well we won't have to talk about several perennial topics such as overheating, which engine/transmission oil to use or whether one should convert to negative ground to name just a few. I wonder if they will figure out a way to replicate and broadcast the iconic sound of a Healey running up/down through the gears? Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 9:40 PM Bob Spidell > wrote: I have no words ... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric-at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news &utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flyhihealey at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 03:32:10 2022 From: flyhihealey at gmail.com (Warren Dietz) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 05:32:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <0B445F9E-1B30-4DE9-B6AA-76C6E8259A29@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Mar 19 05:43:52 2022 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 07:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! In-Reply-To: <0B445F9E-1B30-4DE9-B6AA-76C6E8259A29@hxcore.ol> References: <0B445F9E-1B30-4DE9-B6AA-76C6E8259A29@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: <1063913333.149562878.1647690232131.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> That's the shocking truth. ----- Original Message ----- From: Warren Dietz To: Michael Oritt , Michael Salter Cc: Healeys Sent: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 05:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! The list will ?go silent?. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Michael Oritt Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:15 PM To: Michael Salter Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! It would be easy to have small pumps and discretely located reservoirs to replicate oil leaks and radiator boil-over plus heaters to make the interior unbearable--just some of the conditions we love to hate. Best-Michael Oritt On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 10:04 PM Michael Salter wrote:Oh ... but the lack of oil leaks ... just wouldn't be the same. M On Fri., Mar. 18, 2022, 9:55 p.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, wrote:Well we won't have to talk about several perennial topics such as overheating, which engine/transmission oil to use or whether one should convert to negative ground to name just a few. I wonder if they will figure out a way to replicate and broadcast the iconic sound of a Healey running up/down through the gears? Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 9:40 PM Bob Spidell wrote:I have no words ... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric-at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 19 05:47:43 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 07:47:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! In-Reply-To: <517b56c5-cf47-1662-9983-06080ba722cf@comcast.net> References: <517b56c5-cf47-1662-9983-06080ba722cf@comcast.net> Message-ID: <015601d83b87$257f8ed0$707eac70$@sympatico.ca> That is what I call re-volting. -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: March 18, 2022 9:39 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric- at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenew s _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca From healeyrik at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 06:28:30 2022 From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:28:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! In-Reply-To: <517b56c5-cf47-1662-9983-06080ba722cf@comcast.net> References: <517b56c5-cf47-1662-9983-06080ba722cf@comcast.net> Message-ID: This place already has the engine sound covered: https://evsoundsystem.com/ev-sounds/ Sort of like falsies for electric cars. Rick Neville On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 9:40 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric-at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 08:28:48 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 07:28:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! In-Reply-To: <015601d83b87$257f8ed0$707eac70$@sympatico.ca> References: <517b56c5-cf47-1662-9983-06080ba722cf@comcast.net> <015601d83b87$257f8ed0$707eac70$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Very funny Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Sat, Mar 19, 2022, 4:48 AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > That is what I call re-volting. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell > Sent: March 18, 2022 9:39 PM > To: Healeys > Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! > > > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric- > > at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenew > > s > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From llennep at verizon.net Sat Mar 19 08:32:49 2022 From: llennep at verizon.net (llennep at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 14:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <376664134.900324.1647700369641@mail.yahoo.com> No problem. ?There is a $999 oil dripper option available. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter via Healeys To: Michael Oritt Cc: Healeys Sent: Fri, Mar 18, 2022 10:04 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! Oh ... but the lack of oil leaks ... just wouldn't be the same.? M On Fri., Mar. 18, 2022, 9:55 p.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, wrote: Well we won't have to talk about several?perennial?topics such as overheating, which engine/transmission oil to use or whether one should?convert to negative ground to name just a few.? I wonder if they will figure out a way to replicate and broadcast the iconic sound of a Healey running up/down through the gears?? Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 9:40 PM Bob Spidell wrote: I have no words ... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric-at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That is what I call re-volting. -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: March 18, 2022 9:39 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric- at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenew s _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:37:22 -0700 Size: 5831 URL: From jim at jimbunte.com Sun Mar 20 08:33:36 2022 From: jim at jimbunte.com (jim at jimbunte.com) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:33:36 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Found this on Craigslist Message-ID: <42A9DB89-DC4A-E64A-8E7F-79CCA8F061F5@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Mar 20 09:04:18 2022 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 11:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] OD BJ8 Message-ID: <1599250154.150844467.1647788658760.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> I mentioned before that my OD was VERY slow engaging. Today I pulled the tranny cover. Checked to see if the 3/16 rod would align when OD engaged. I aligned perfectly. So--I assumed the lever that is moved by the solenoid was adjusted properly. checked lever clamp to make sure the nut was tight. it wasan observation---the movement of the lever is small---moves, but not much maybe it doesn't move much-just an observation.As I mentioned before it disengages from OD instantly---but going in is SLOW (minutes)or never-------.Now I'm back to my puzzling stage:):) What is causing it?? I'm using 30wt non-detergent. OH--I pulled the operating valve and checked to make sure the small hole wasn;t clogged. It wasn't.any other thoughts are very welcome.tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sun Mar 20 10:12:07 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:12:07 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] OD BJ8 In-Reply-To: <1599250154.150844467.1647788658760.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1599250154.150844467.1647788658760.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: <000001d83c75$40a82070$c1f86150$@alexarevel.plus.com> I think the experts will confirm that the 3/16th thing is fine when it?s all brand new in there but that it?s not a definitive solution after so many years wear & tear. I still think that a pressure test would be a useful start point. An OD that drags its feet going in but disengages readily does suggest pressure to me. You could do worse than look at the relevant part of that article I sent you??. Here?s a copy of Del Border?s article which is good stuff. You?ve probably already got it? Everyone has their pet oils, but 30wt non-detergent is generally approved of. Bill Bolton suggested it so that was good enough for me. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Tom Felts via Healeys Sent: 20 March 2022 15:04 To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] OD BJ8 I mentioned before that my OD was VERY slow engaging. Today I pulled the tranny cover. Checked to see if the 3/16 rod would align when OD engaged. I aligned perfectly. So--I assumed the lever that is moved by the solenoid was adjusted properly. checked lever clamp to make sure the nut was tight. it was an observation---the movement of the lever is small---moves, but not much maybe it doesn't move much-just an observation. As I mentioned before it disengages from OD instantly---but going in is SLOW (minutes)or never-------. Now I'm back to my puzzling stage:):) What is causing it?? I'm using 30wt non-detergent. OH--I pulled the operating valve and checked to make sure the small hole wasn;t clogged. It wasn't. any other thoughts are very welcome. tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: The Overdrive.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1964355 bytes Desc: not available URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 10:43:55 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 12:43:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] OD BJ8 In-Reply-To: <1599250154.150844467.1647788658760.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1599250154.150844467.1647788658760.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: Yes Simon is correct. The 3/16" pin check was probably satisfactory when the unit was new but it isn't reliable 60 years later. I would suggest removing the operating valve plug, spring and top-hat them using a parallel punch check that the ball rises at least 1/16" when the solenoid is energized. After making any adjustments it is imperative that the solenoid current draw is checked and drops to 2 -3 amps when energized after everything is reassembled. M On Sun., Mar. 20, 2022, 11:04 a.m. Tom Felts via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I mentioned before that my OD was VERY slow engaging. Today I pulled the > tranny cover. Checked to see if the 3/16 rod would align when OD engaged. > I aligned perfectly. So--I assumed the lever that is moved by the solenoid > was adjusted properly. checked lever clamp to make sure the nut was > tight. it was > > an observation---the movement of the lever is small---moves, but not much > maybe it doesn't move much-just an observation. > > As I mentioned before it disengages from OD instantly---but going in is > SLOW (minutes)or never-------. > > Now I'm back to my puzzling stage:):) What is causing it?? I'm using 30wt > non-detergent. > > OH--I pulled the operating valve and checked to make sure the small hole > wasn;t clogged. It wasn't. > > any other thoughts are very welcome. > > tom > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Sun Mar 20 11:28:05 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 10:28:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Mount Rubbers Message-ID: <9F4FBCFC-756D-4544-8403-13D89D1961D6@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My thoughts, Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Michael Salter via Healeys" To: "Tom Felts" Cc: "healeys" Sent: Sunday March 20 2022 9:44:51AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD BJ8 Yes Simon is correct. The 3/16" pin check was probably satisfactory when the unit was new but it isn't reliable 60 years later. I would suggest removing the operating valve plug, spring and top-hat them using a parallel punch check that the ball rises at least 1/16" when the solenoid is energized. After making any adjustments it is imperative that the solenoid current draw is checked and drops to 2 -3 amps when energized after everything is reassembled. M On Sun., Mar. 20, 2022, 11:04 a.m. Tom Felts via Healeys, wrote: I mentioned before that my OD was VERY slow engaging. Today I pulled the tranny cover. Checked to see if the 3/16 rod would align when OD engaged. I aligned perfectly. So--I assumed the lever that is moved by the solenoid was adjusted properly. checked lever clamp to make sure the nut was tight. it was an observation---the movement of the lever is small---moves, but not much maybe it doesn't move much-just an observation. As I mentioned before it disengages from OD instantly---but going in is SLOW (minutes)or never-------. Now I'm back to my puzzling stage:):) What is causing it?? I'm using 30wt non-detergent. OH--I pulled the operating valve and checked to make sure the small hole wasn;t clogged. It wasn't. any other thoughts are very welcome. tom _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net [1]http://www.team.net/donate.html [2] Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: [3]http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [4] [5]http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys [6] Healeys at autox.team.net [7]http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [8] Unsubscribe/Manage: [9]http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com [10] Links: ------ [1] http://www.team.net/donate.html [2] http://www.team.net/donate.html [3] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [4] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [5] http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys [6] http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys [7] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [8] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com [10] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The 3/16" pin check was probably satisfactory when the unit was new but it isn't reliable 60 years later. > I would suggest removing the operating valve plug, spring and top-hat them using a parallel punch check that the ball rises at least 1/16" when the solenoid is energized. > After making any adjustments it is imperative that the solenoid current draw is checked and drops to 2 -3 amps when energized after everything is reassembled. > > M > >> On Sun., Mar. 20, 2022, 11:04 a.m. Tom Felts via Healeys, wrote: >> I mentioned before that my OD was VERY slow engaging. Today I pulled the tranny cover. Checked to see if the 3/16 rod would align when OD engaged. I aligned perfectly. So--I assumed the lever that is moved by the solenoid was adjusted properly. checked lever clamp to make sure the nut was tight. it was >> >> an observation---the movement of the lever is small---moves, but not much maybe it doesn't move much-just an observation. >> >> As I mentioned before it disengages from OD instantly---but going in is SLOW (minutes)or never-------. >> >> Now I'm back to my puzzling stage:):) What is causing it?? I'm using 30wt non-detergent. >> >> OH--I pulled the operating valve and checked to make sure the small hole wasn;t clogged. It wasn't. >> >> any other thoughts are very welcome. >> >> tom >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Electrics are one thing, and pressure another-then, wear factor a third. If it does not hit 400, you might as well rebuild the unit, or at least clean it and retest. Disengagement is a result of the pressure being released, and the 8 springs pushing the clutch back to direct drive. You need the 400 lbs. to overcome the 8 springs, and quickly move the clutch forward to OD. My thoughts, Hank -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Problem always being obtaining a gauge and fittings.? However, > it is imperative that the pressure be 400+lbs. or it is not producing > a good overdrive exchange. Electrics are one thing, and pressure > another-then, wear factor a third. > > If it does not hit 400, you might as well rebuild the unit, or at > least clean it and retest. Disengagement is a result of the pressure > being released, and the 8 springs pushing the clutch back to direct > drive.? You need the 400 lbs. to overcome the 8 springs, and *quickly* > move the clutch forward to OD. My thoughts, Hank > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Meanwhile, winter in Florida means very little rain so it is not important right away. If it rained I would have to put up the top for the 1st time in several years. Bob Begani 67 BJ8 From: Healeys On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson via Healeys Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 8:23 PM To: 'Harold Manifold' ; 'Ken Fleming via Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rainbow Wiper Blade Refills Harold, I too have the original ?Rainbow? wiper assemblies on my BN2 and my tri-carb. Back in the eighties, when I lived in Kitsilano, I used to be able to buy rubber blade inserts from Canadian Tire. They stocked several different profiles including an almost exact fit for the flexible blade holder. They were longer than 9? so I simply cut them to length. Down here in Auckland I?ve found a very similar profile made by Repco. Not that it?s any use to you being down here in the Antipodes. Keep it shiny side up, Mark Ardmore NZ This is the profile I use. From: Harold Manifold > Sent: Friday, 18 March 2022 5:38 AM To: Ken Fleming via Healeys > Subject: [Healeys] Rainbow Wiper Blade Refills Hello, A previous post triggered me to look at my collection of wiper arms and wiper blades. I have some original ?Rainbow Made in England? wiper blades but the rubber has disintegrated. Are there refills available? The refills are 9? long and 3/8? wide. Is there a source and part number? Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 10677 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I took the car for a very short spin after completing the change and I am quite sure I did not did not get the oil up to full operating temperatures but in any case the OP did seem a few psi higher than what I am used to seeing At this point I have about $125.00 invested in the mistake: seven quarts and a new K&N filter. If my fear is verified by your opinions I am certainly willing to drain and refill--I certainly do not want to be driving around if there is a real risk of causing damage. I eagerly await the group wisdom. Best--Michael Oritt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 14:50:12 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:50:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: IMHO Michael that will be absolutely no problem. M On Sun., Mar. 20, 2022, 4:45 p.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Through a stupid mistake on my part today I purchased eight quarts of > 20w50 synthetic Amsoil rather than the 10w40 I normally use year-round. > Unfortunately I discovered this mistake this afternoon only after I > completed the oil/filter change. > > I am concerned that this higher-viscosity oil might in some way damage my > engine. It has been about 60-70K miles from the engine's having been > professionally rebuilt and while oil pressure has fallen somewhat over the > last several years the gauge still indicates about 40 psi at 2500-3K rpm's > and about 20 psi at fast idle with 10w40, in both cases with hot oil and at > normal engine operating temperature. I took the car for a very short spin > after completing the change and I am quite sure I did not did not get the > oil up to full operating temperatures but in any case the OP did seem a few > psi higher than what I am used to seeing > > At this point I have about $125.00 invested in the mistake: seven quarts > and a new K&N filter. If my fear is verified by your opinions I am > certainly willing to drain and refill--I certainly do not want to be > driving around if there is a real risk of causing damage. > > I eagerly await the group wisdom. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 15:01:30 2022 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:01:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B97D979-F930-4230-B68E-06B91333EF2A@gmail.com> Michael, I use 20w-50 in all of my classic car engines. Now, if I drove them in the winter time I would probably consider the 10w-40 option as it would have the lower 10W viscosity for those cold morning start ups. So you are fine. Richard Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com > On Mar 20, 2022, at 1:50 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > > IMHO Michael that will be absolutely no problem. > > M > > On Sun., Mar. 20, 2022, 4:45 p.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, > wrote: > Through a stupid mistake on my part today I purchased eight quarts of 20w50 synthetic Amsoil rather than the 10w40 I normally use year-round. Unfortunately I discovered this mistake this afternoon only after I completed the oil/filter change. > > I am concerned that this higher-viscosity oil might in some way damage my engine. It has been about 60-70K miles from the engine's having been professionally rebuilt and while oil pressure has fallen somewhat over the last several years the gauge still indicates about 40 psi at 2500-3K rpm's and about 20 psi at fast idle with 10w40, in both cases with hot oil and at normal engine operating temperature. I took the car for a very short spin after completing the change and I am quite sure I did not did not get the oil up to full operating temperatures but in any case the OP did seem a few psi higher than what I am used to seeing > > At this point I have about $125.00 invested in the mistake: seven quarts and a new K&N filter. If my fear is verified by your opinions I am certainly willing to drain and refill--I certainly do not want to be driving around if there is a real risk of causing damage. > > I eagerly await the group wisdom. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 15:03:08 2022 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 17:03:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans In-Reply-To: <0B97D979-F930-4230-B68E-06B91333EF2A@gmail.com> References: <0B97D979-F930-4230-B68E-06B91333EF2A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <005101d83c9d$e6fb71c0$b4f25540$@gmail.com> Ditto, on all points! Al Fuller Fuller Compliance, Inc. Quality Systems, Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 From: Healeys On Behalf Of richard mayor via Healeys Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 5:02 PM To: Michael Salter Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans Michael, I use 20w-50 in all of my classic car engines. Now, if I drove them in the winter time I would probably consider the 10w-40 option as it would have the lower 10W viscosity for those cold morning start ups. So you are fine. Richard Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com On Mar 20, 2022, at 1:50 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: IMHO Michael that will be absolutely no problem. M On Sun., Mar. 20, 2022, 4:45 p.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, > wrote: Through a stupid mistake on my part today I purchased eight quarts of 20w50 synthetic Amsoil rather than the 10w40 I normally use year-round. Unfortunately I discovered this mistake this afternoon only after I completed the oil/filter change. I am concerned that this higher-viscosity oil might in some way damage my engine. It has been about 60-70K miles from the engine's having been professionally rebuilt and while oil pressure has fallen somewhat over the last several years the gauge still indicates about 40 psi at 2500-3K rpm's and about 20 psi at fast idle with 10w40, in both cases with hot oil and at normal engine operating temperature. I took the car for a very short spin after completing the change and I am quite sure I did not did not get the oil up to full operating temperatures but in any case the OP did seem a few psi higher than what I am used to seeing At this point I have about $125.00 invested in the mistake: seven quarts and a new K&N filter. If my fear is verified by your opinions I am certainly willing to drain and refill--I certainly do not want to be driving around if there is a real risk of causing damage. I eagerly await the group wisdom. 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URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sun Mar 20 15:14:41 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:14:41 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans Message-ID: <28040e68333fba7b8d34af8d95db33ffe1a68080@webmail> Michaels-what a timely request. Just last week, I changed the oil in my MK1 Sprite. I normally use 30W conventional oil. When I went to the various auto stores in my town, all I could find was synthetic or synthetic blends. By luck one of the "Grocery" stores was selling some Castrol 20-50 regular oil in a 5qt jug for $19.95. (closeout?) I bought it, and changed the oil and the car road tested ran perfect and sounded great with clean oil and same oil pressure as previous. In fear, I went back and bought the last two remaining jugs of this elixir they had on the shelf. Back when these cars were introduced, multi-grades were just starting to become available and Geoff Healey stated that although interesting, they would still recommend 30W. I plan to use it in the 100 and BJ8, also, as factory specified, in the Jensen-Healey. I have had occasion to see synthetics, due to there small molecular size, leak out of these cars whereas the conventional oil will stay in. I think if Geoff was still with us today, he would agree that there is nothing wrong with multi-grades but probably not recommend synthetics unless you could keep a diaper under your Healey. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Michael Salter via Healeys" To: "Michael Oritt" Cc: "Austin Healey" Sent: Sunday March 20 2022 1:51:06PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans IMHO Michael that will be absolutely no problem. M On Sun., Mar. 20, 2022, 4:45 p.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, wrote: Through a stupid mistake on my part today I purchased eight quarts of 20w50 synthetic Amsoil rather than the 10w40 I normally use year-round. Unfortunately I discovered this mistake this afternoon only after I completed the oil/filter change. I am concerned that this higher-viscosity oil might in some way damage my engine. It has been about 60-70K miles from the engine's having been professionally rebuilt and while oil pressure has fallen somewhat over the last several years the gauge still indicates about 40 psi at 2500-3K rpm's and about 20 psi at fast idle with 10w40, in both cases with hot oil and at normal engine operating temperature. I took the car for a very short spin after completing the change and I am quite sure I did not did not get the oil up to full operating temperatures but in any case the OP did seem a few psi higher than what I am used to seeing At this point I have about $125.00 invested in the mistake: seven quarts and a new K&N filter. If my fear is verified by your opinions I am certainly willing to drain and refill--I certainly do not want to be driving around if there is a real risk of causing damage. I eagerly await the group wisdom. 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Mar 20 15:55:11 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:55:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans In-Reply-To: <28040e68333fba7b8d34af8d95db33ffe1a68080@webmail> References: <28040e68333fba7b8d34af8d95db33ffe1a68080@webmail> Message-ID: I've run 20W-50 in both my Healeys--BN2 and BJ8--for years (35+ for the BJ8). Note some owners swear by Penrite, which has a 60-rated oil (don't know what the winter value is). The only real 'risk' would be a cold start at freezing or lower temps, which could conceivably result in a bit more top end--and starter--wear. bs On 3/20/2022 2:14 PM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: > Michaels-what a timely request. Just last week, I changed the oil in > my MK1 Sprite.? I normally use 30W conventional oil. When I went to > the various auto stores in my town, all I could find was synthetic or > synthetic blends. By luck one of the "Grocery" stores was selling some > Castrol 20-50 regular oil in a 5qt jug for $19.95. (closeout?)? I > bought it, and changed the oil and the car road tested ran perfect and > sounded great with clean oil and same oil pressure as previous. In > fear, I went back and bought the last two remaining jugs of this > elixir they had on the shelf. > > Back when these cars were introduced, multi-grades were just starting > to become available and Geoff Healey stated that although interesting, > they would still recommend 30W. I plan to use it in the 100 and BJ8, > also, as factory specified, in the Jensen-Healey. I have had occasion > to see synthetics, due to there small molecular size, leak out of > these cars whereas the conventional oil will stay in. > > I think if Geoff was still with us today, he would agree that there is > nothing wrong with multi-grades but probably not recommend synthetics > unless you could keep a diaper under your Healey. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Michael Salter via Healeys" > To: "Michael Oritt" > Cc: "Austin Healey" > Sent: Sunday March 20 2022 1:51:06PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans > > IMHO Michael that will be absolutely no problem. > > M > > On Sun., Mar. 20, 2022, 4:45 p.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, > wrote: > > Through a stupid mistake on?my part today I purchased eight quarts > of 20w50 synthetic Amsoil rather than the 10w40 I normally use > year-round.? Unfortunately I discovered this mistake this > afternoon only after I completed the oil/filter change. > > I am concerned that this higher-viscosity oil might in some way > damage my engine.? It has been about 60-70K miles from > the?engine's having been professionally rebuilt and while oil > pressure has fallen somewhat over the last several years the > gauge?still?indicates about 40 psi at 2500-3K rpm's and about 20 > psi at fast idle with 10w40,?in both cases with hot oil and at > normal engine operating temperature.? I took the car for a very > short spin after completing the change and I am quite sure I did > not did not get the oil up to full operating temperatures but in > any case the OP did seem a few psi higher than what I am used to > seeing > > At this point I have about $125.00 invested in the mistake:? seven > quarts and a new K&N filter.? If my fear is verified by your > opinions I am certainly willing to drain and refill--I certainly > do not want to be driving around if there is a real risk of > causing damage. > > I eagerly await the group wisdom. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That is what I call re-volting. -----Original Message----- From: Healeys < healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: March 18, 2022 9:39 PM To: Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric- at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenew s _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sun Mar 20 19:38:52 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:38:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] OD BJ8 In-Reply-To: <3fa8b359-90ab-9eca-c970-10431ff6a519@comcast.net> References: <3fa8b359-90ab-9eca-c970-10431ff6a519@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8E7C6A9B-4C00-4940-B5B6-C40AFA1FEDEC@aol.com> Without making this too messy. With the gearbox and o/d in the car and a concern that the solenoid adjustment is not correct or the pressure is low it?s a matter of attaching a wire to lift the old lever and take the car for a ride. Third or Forth gear and pull gently on the wire. The results will tell you where the problem really is. I definitely do not recommend driving the car with the gearbox tunnel removed. Things can get nasty with the driveshaft spinning unprotected that close to you. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 20, 2022, at 3:26 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > > On 3/20/2022 12:19 PM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: >> Well, people do, or did at least, sell the gauge and all its fittings ie ready to go. I don?t recall/know who does it and where except that here in the UK Dave at Overdrive Spares sells them. About ?40:00, I think. Plus shipping, of course. >> Simon >> >> From: Healeys On Behalf Of Henry G Leach via Healeys >> Sent: 20 March 2022 18:40 >> To: 'Michael Salter' >> Cc: 'healeys' >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD BJ8 >> >> Yes, and I agree with Michael, and Simon's note; a pressure test is in order. Problem always being obtaining a gauge and fittings. However, it is imperative that the pressure be 400+lbs. or it is not producing a good overdrive exchange. Electrics are one thing, and pressure another-then, wear factor a third. >> >> If it does not hit 400, you might as well rebuild the unit, or at least clean it and retest. Disengagement is a result of the pressure being released, and the 8 springs pushing the clutch back to direct drive. You need the 400 lbs. to overcome the 8 springs, and quickly move the clutch forward to OD. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 19:47:31 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:47:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans Message-ID: All-- Thanks to the many trusted voices who told me that 20/50 was not going to be a problem,especially those who posted that it is the grade they customarily use. The Blind Squirrel (aka Michael Oritt) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Mar 20 19:57:39 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 18:57:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Mount Rubbers In-Reply-To: <9F4FBCFC-756D-4544-8403-13D89D1961D6@hxcore.ol> References: <9F4FBCFC-756D-4544-8403-13D89D1961D6@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: <93d12d83-9395-6d73-423b-92e17136580a@comcast.net> Obvious/dumb/insulting question: IIRC the rubbers are 'handed;' are they both wrong the same way? To tell you the truth, your 60YO rubbers look pretty good. I'd be tempted to reuse them; the contemporary aftermarket ones aren't quality, obviously. I've seen them start to delaminate and/or sag almost immediately. Because they sag, I think it's best to adjust the gap when they're installed with the engine. I got a bunch of fender washers and cut slots in them so they could slide past the stud. Bob On 3/20/2022 10:28 AM, Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: > > Hello, > > I was dry fitting the engine mounts for my AH 3000 to get an idea of > what shims would be needed to set the gap to the rebound rubbers. The > new rebound rubbers I have are different than the originals. After > assessing it looks like the locating pin on the top of the rebound > rubber is 180 degrees out from where it should be. Did I buy the wrong > the rebound rubbers? Has anyone else had this problem? > > See the attached picture. The original 60 year old rubbers are on the > left and new parts on the right. > > I could grind the pin off and turn the rubbers but the one centre bolt > likely wouldn?t keep them in place. > > Thanks?. Harold > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Sun Mar 20 21:14:58 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 20:14:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Mount Rubbers In-Reply-To: <93d12d83-9395-6d73-423b-92e17136580a@comcast.net> References: <93d12d83-9395-6d73-423b-92e17136580a@comcast.net> Message-ID: <110A32D6-7A79-4E62-AC8E-7DE6BC0E5D0B@telus.net> Bob, I thought they could be handed and tried to install the rebound rubbers in every possible combination with the same result. When I compare the new to old the alignment peg is on a different side relative to the taper in the rubber. I did think of using the 60 year old but the other one has started to delaminate. I am beginning to think either the rebound rubber is the wrong part or it was made incorrectly. Harold > On Mar 20, 2022, at 6:58 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > ? Obvious/dumb/insulting question: IIRC the rubbers are 'handed;' are they both wrong the same way? > > To tell you the truth, your 60YO rubbers look pretty good. I'd be tempted to reuse them; the contemporary aftermarket ones aren't quality, obviously. I've seen them start to delaminate and/or sag almost immediately. Because they sag, I think it's best to adjust the gap when they're installed with the engine. I got a bunch of fender washers and cut slots in them so they could slide past the stud. > > Bob > > On 3/20/2022 10:28 AM, Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I was dry fitting the engine mounts for my AH 3000 to get an idea of what shims would be needed to set the gap to the rebound rubbers. The new rebound rubbers I have are different than the originals. After assessing it looks like the locating pin on the top of the rebound rubber is 180 degrees out from where it should be. Did I buy the wrong the rebound rubbers? Has anyone else had this problem? >> >> See the attached picture. The original 60 year old rubbers are on the left and new parts on the right. >> >> I could grind the pin off and turn the rubbers but the one centre bolt likely wouldn?t keep them in place. >> >> Thanks?. Harold >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 21:42:47 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 11:42:47 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Mount Rubbers In-Reply-To: <9F4FBCFC-756D-4544-8403-13D89D1961D6@hxcore.ol> References: <9F4FBCFC-756D-4544-8403-13D89D1961D6@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: Harold - Yeah, I had this exact same problem. If your rebound rubbers are in good shape, just reuse them, they don't get much stress if they are installed properly. If you really want to use the 180 out rubbers, you can grind off the tab, and then get a small bolt of the same diameter, cut off the head, tap out a hole in the right spot on the rebound rubber and rebuild it correctly that way, I've done that before. Best, Alan On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 1:36 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hello, > > > > I was dry fitting the engine mounts for my AH 3000 to get an idea of what > shims would be needed to set the gap to the rebound rubbers. The new > rebound rubbers I have are different than the originals. After assessing it > looks like the locating pin on the top of the rebound rubber is 180 degrees > out from where it should be. Did I buy the wrong the rebound rubbers? Has > anyone else had this problem? > > > > See the attached picture. The original 60 year old rubbers are on the left > and new parts on the right. > > > > I could grind the pin off and turn the rubbers but the one centre bolt > likely wouldn?t keep them in place. > > > > Thanks?. Harold > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 21:51:21 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 11:51:21 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Mount Rubbers In-Reply-To: References: <9F4FBCFC-756D-4544-8403-13D89D1961D6@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: Hi Harold - Here's a picture of how put a new peg on the rubber by tapping out a hole, then grind off the wrong side. Worked well but I ended up just reusing my old rubbers in my case, but I do have these as a backup. [image: image.png] Here you can see the new and old ones are opposite [image: 205883706_10160985833529377_2312188817106505781_n.jpeg] Best, Alan On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:42 AM Alan Seigrist wrote: > Harold - > > Yeah, I had this exact same problem. If your rebound rubbers are in good > shape, just reuse them, they don't get much stress if they are installed > properly. > > If you really want to use the 180 out rubbers, you can grind off the tab, > and then get a small bolt of the same diameter, cut off the head, tap out a > hole in the right spot on the rebound rubber and rebuild it correctly that > way, I've done that before. > > Best, > > Alan > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 1:36 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I was dry fitting the engine mounts for my AH 3000 to get an idea of what >> shims would be needed to set the gap to the rebound rubbers. The new >> rebound rubbers I have are different than the originals. After assessing it >> looks like the locating pin on the top of the rebound rubber is 180 degrees >> out from where it should be. Did I buy the wrong the rebound rubbers? Has >> anyone else had this problem? >> >> >> >> See the attached picture. The original 60 year old rubbers are on the >> left and new parts on the right. >> >> >> >> I could grind the pin off and turn the rubbers but the one centre bolt >> likely wouldn?t keep them in place. >> >> >> >> Thanks?. Harold >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Note some owners swear by Penrite, which has a 60-rated oil (don't > know what the winter value is). > > The only real 'risk' would be a cold start at freezing or lower temps, > which could conceivably result in a bit more top end--and starter--wear. > > bs > > > On 3/20/2022 2:14 PM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: > > Michaels-what a timely request. Just last week, I changed the oil in my > MK1 Sprite. I normally use 30W conventional oil. When I went to the > various auto stores in my town, all I could find was synthetic or synthetic > blends. By luck one of the "Grocery" stores was selling some Castrol 20-50 > regular oil in a 5qt jug for $19.95. (closeout?) I bought it, and changed > the oil and the car road tested ran perfect and sounded great with clean > oil and same oil pressure as previous. In fear, I went back and bought the > last two remaining jugs of this elixir they had on the shelf. > > Back when these cars were introduced, multi-grades were just starting to > become available and Geoff Healey stated that although interesting, they > would still recommend 30W. I plan to use it in the 100 and BJ8, also, as > factory specified, in the Jensen-Healey. I have had occasion to see > synthetics, due to there small molecular size, leak out of these cars > whereas the conventional oil will stay in. > > I think if Geoff was still with us today, he would agree that there is > nothing wrong with multi-grades but probably not recommend synthetics > unless you could keep a diaper under your Healey. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Michael Salter via Healeys" > To: "Michael Oritt" > Cc: "Austin Healey" > Sent: Sunday March 20 2022 1:51:06PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans > > IMHO Michael that will be absolutely no problem. > > M > > On Sun., Mar. 20, 2022, 4:45 p.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Through a stupid mistake on my part today I purchased eight quarts of >> 20w50 synthetic Amsoil rather than the 10w40 I normally use year-round. >> Unfortunately I discovered this mistake this afternoon only after I >> completed the oil/filter change. >> >> I am concerned that this higher-viscosity oil might in some way damage my >> engine. It has been about 60-70K miles from the engine's having been >> professionally rebuilt and while oil pressure has fallen somewhat over the >> last several years the gauge still indicates about 40 psi at 2500-3K rpm's >> and about 20 psi at fast idle with 10w40, in both cases with hot oil and at >> normal engine operating temperature. I took the car for a very short spin >> after completing the change and I am quite sure I did not did not get the >> oil up to full operating temperatures but in any case the OP did seem a few >> psi higher than what I am used to seeing >> >> At this point I have about $125.00 invested in the mistake: seven quarts >> and a new K&N filter. If my fear is verified by your opinions I am >> certainly willing to drain and refill--I certainly do not want to be >> driving around if there is a real risk of causing damage. >> >> I eagerly await the group wisdom. >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I use synthetic oils of the correct viscosity & I do not experience leaks. A well build engine & transmission/overdrive do not have to leak. Sealants need to be applied to clean dry surfaces.?Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Barker via Healeys To: Jim Ryan ; Bob Spidell Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Mar 21, 2022 8:37 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans In my humble exp?rience the synthetic always leasing more Get Outlook for Android_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 1:45 PM Michael Oritt via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Through a stupid mistake on my part today I purchased eight quarts of > 20w50 synthetic Amsoil rather than the 10w40 I normally use year-round. > Unfortunately I discovered this mistake this afternoon only after I > completed the oil/filter change. > > I am concerned that this higher-viscosity oil might in some way damage my > engine. It has been about 60-70K miles from the engine's having been > professionally rebuilt and while oil pressure has fallen somewhat over the > last several years the gauge still indicates about 40 psi at 2500-3K rpm's > and about 20 psi at fast idle with 10w40, in both cases with hot oil and at > normal engine operating temperature. I took the car for a very short spin > after completing the change and I am quite sure I did not did not get the > oil up to full operating temperatures but in any case the OP did seem a few > psi higher than what I am used to seeing > > At this point I have about $125.00 invested in the mistake: seven quarts > and a new K&N filter. If my fear is verified by your opinions I am > certainly willing to drain and refill--I certainly do not want to be > driving around if there is a real risk of causing damage. > > I eagerly await the group wisdom. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Mar 21 10:04:44 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 09:04:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans In-Reply-To: <1823577122.755973.1647871578213@mail.yahoo.com> References: <28040e68333fba7b8d34af8d95db33ffe1a68080@webmail> <5CFBFEF2-FA62-404A-A751-9F3A501825EE@hxcore.ol> <1823577122.755973.1647871578213@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Oh boy! Another oil thread! Now that synthetic is no more expensive than mineral oil, in some cases cheaper: https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-5w-30-full-synthetic-motor-oil-5-quart%2c-4-pack.product.100690432.html ... I use it in my more modern cars and newer lawn/farm appliances. The tractors and the '46 Chevy truck get mineral 10W-40, just because full-syn 10W-40 isn't common and, well, that's what my dad always put in them. However, until /proven/ otherwise I think flat-tappet engines need ZDDP (although some claim syns work as good or better to protect cam lobes--I'm not convinced). From what I've seen and read, ZDDP is verboten in lower-vis oils, because they're what's spec'd in newer cars with catalytic converters. Only 20W-50 is claimed to have 'sufficient ZDDP for flat-tappet engines;' Valvoline VR-1 even says it on the label. A few years ago. VR-1 suddenly disappeared from parts store shelves with no explanation given, then reappeared a couple years later. I'm no longer able to buy VR-1 online, but a local Autozone still has some on the shelf so I stocked up. I think, with 9 filters and enough oil for 9 changes with top-ups I've got a near-lifetime supply. My guess is California will ban it outright at some point and, my rule-of-thumb is: "If California banned/is banning it it must be good" (see: 3M adhesive remover, Floway, mineral spirits, effective engine cleaners/degreasers, etc.). Bob On 3/21/2022 7:06 AM, warthodson at aol.com wrote: > This seems to be a common opinion that unfortunately is not based on > science. I use synthetic oils of the correct viscosity & I do not > experience leaks. A well build engine & transmission/overdrive do not > have to leak. Sealants need to be applied to clean dry surfaces. > Gary Hodson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas Barker via Healeys > To: Jim Ryan ; Bob Spidell > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, Mar 21, 2022 8:37 am > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans > > In my humble exp?rience the synthetic always leasing more > > > > > Get Outlook for Android > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From pdzwig at summaventures.com Mon Mar 21 10:13:23 2022 From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 16:13:23 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! In-Reply-To: <517b56c5-cf47-1662-9983-06080ba722cf@comcast.net> References: <517b56c5-cf47-1662-9983-06080ba722cf@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7f48beb1-d5ad-0ec4-1a1d-b2e923a12d0c@summaventures.com> We own a couple of hybrids - no, not a Healey - and I won't be converting any or buying a fully electric car. The issue for me is range and the inability to recharge in any reasonable amount of time. I live in the country and our nearest charging point is 10 miles away and It takes hours and hours to charge. Using electricity from a domestic source is as bad if not worse. Both charging time and battery range that is critical for me. Several times a year we make a journey of about 1000km (each way) deep into France. Normally in a diesel or petrol car we can do this in about a day and a bit. If we added current recharging times that would add at least the better part of a day. On other occasions we make trips into the far Highlands of Scotland (a similar sort of distance). Up there there are *no* charging points. In fact most electrics wouldn't get me from my home to London without the need for a recharge! Don't get me wrong, in principle the idea is great and important. It is just that we are being sold a technology which isn't sufficiently mature. Conversions come in at tens of thousands of whatever your local currency is - at least! - which I simply don't have. I don't have a solution, although a hydrogen conversion might be more effective at some point. Peter On 19/03/2022 01:39, Bob Spidell wrote: > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric-at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pdzwig at summaventures.com > -- Dr. Peter Dzwig From gradea1 at charter.net Mon Mar 21 11:08:25 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 17:08:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Message-ID: <44c2f5d68587751e0636cffa37d719dac42eae62@webmail> AGREE-STOCK UP ON OIL! I'M SET FOR A FEW YEARS WITH THE 20-50 BUT THE STORE I PURCHASED IT FROM WAS HAVING A CLOSEOUT SALE. BEST CLUE TO ZINC RICH OILS IS THE SAE LABEL ON THE BOTTLE. SN=NO ZINC. (not literally) But oils with SL or lower ratings do contain zinc...the lower the SAE series the more the zinc. If you find some old oil, its good. Modern day zinc oils come from Moss or Joe Gibbs costing $10/qt. or more Early VR-1 had lots of zinc but later ones have reduced the content. Someone on the list has a chart of all this with values-discussed many times over the years. It would be good to hear back from those folks using synthetics to see what leak issues they have/or not- as Gary notes. I use Permatex, Hylomar, etc. and still see some "seepage", especially when a car sits out the pandemic. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" To: "healeys at autox.team.net", "ryan at jimryan.com" Cc: Sent: Monday March 21 2022 9:07:35AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans Oh boy! Another oil thread! Now that synthetic is no more expensive than mineral oil, in some cases cheaper: [1]https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-5w-30-full-synthetic-motor-oil-5-quart%2c-4-pack.product.100690432.html [2] ... I use it in my more modern cars and newer lawn/farm appliances. The tractors and the '46 Chevy truck get mineral 10W-40, just because full-syn 10W-40 isn't common and, well, that's what my dad always put in them. However, until _proven_ otherwise I think flat-tappet engines need ZDDP (although some claim syns work as good or better to protect cam lobes--I'm not convinced). From what I've seen and read, ZDDP is verboten in lower-vis oils, because they're what's spec'd in newer cars with catalytic converters. Only 20W-50 is claimed to have 'sufficient ZDDP for flat-tappet engines;' Valvoline VR-1 even says it on the label. A few years ago. VR-1 suddenly disappeared from parts store shelves with no explanation given, then reappeared a couple years later. I'm no longer able to buy VR-1 online, but a local Autozone still has some on the shelf so I stocked up. I think, with 9 filters and enough oil for 9 changes with top-ups I've got a near-lifetime supply. My guess is California will ban it outright at some point and, my rule-of-thumb is: "If California banned/is banning it it must be good" (see: 3M adhesive remover, Floway, mineral spirits, effective engine cleaners/degreasers, etc.). Bob On 3/21/2022 7:06 AM, warthodson at aol.com wrote: This seems to be a common opinion that unfortunately is not based on science. I use synthetic oils of the correct viscosity & I do not experience leaks. A well build engine & transmission/overdrive do not have to leak. Sealants need to be applied to clean dry surfaces. 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URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Mon Mar 21 11:17:08 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 17:17:08 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! Message-ID: <31fc19166086058cd11b78563ae39f403fcb8f0b@webmail> Here is a note sent to me on which to ponder and ask: why electric?; why $5/gal; what Middle East oil embargo? How can we be fooled so much? Hank Found this interesting thought I'd share U.S. OIL SUPPLY.....INCREDIBLE..!! About 6 months ago, there was a news program on oil and one of The Forbes Bros. was the guest. The host said to Forbes, "I am going to ask you a direct question and I would like a direct answer; how much oil does the U.S. Have in the ground?" Forbes did not miss a beat, he said, "More than all the Middle East put Together." The U.S. Geological Service issued a report in April 2008 that only Scientists and oil men knew was coming, but man was it big. It was a revised report (hadn't been updated since 1995) on how much oil was in this area of the western 2/3 of North Dakota, western South Dakota, and Extreme eastern Montana. Check THIS out: The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since Alaska's Prudhoe Bay and has the potential to eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil. The Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates it at 503 billion barrels. Even if just 10% of the oil is recoverable (5 Billion barrels), at $107 a barrel, we're looking at a resource base worth more than $5.3 trillion. "When I first briefed legislators on this, you could practically see their Jaws hit the floor. They had no idea." says Terry Johnson, the Montana Legislature's financial analyzer. "This sizable find is now the highest-producing onshore oil field found in the past 56 years,? reports The Pittsburgh Post Gazette. It's a formation known as the Williston Basin but is more commonly referred to as the 'Bakken.' It stretches from Northern Montana, through North Dakota and into Canada. For years, U.S. Oil exploration has been considered a dead end. Even the 'Big Oil' companies gave up searching for major oil wells decades ago. However, a recent technological breakthrough has opened up the Bakken's Massive reserves, And, we now have access of up to 500 billion barrels. And because this is Light, sweet oil, those billions of barrels will cost Americans just $16 PER BARREL!!!!! That's enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 2041 years Straight. And if THAT didn't throw you on the floor, then this next one should - Because it's from 2006 !!!!!! U.S. Oil Discovery - Largest Reserve in the World Stansberry Report Online - 4/20/2006. Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the Largest untapped oil reserve in the world. It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005 President Bush Mandated its extraction. In many recent years of high oil prices none has been extracted. With this mother lode of oil why are we still fighting over off-shore Drilling? They reported this stunning news: We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on Earth. Here are the official estimates: 8 times as much oil as Saudi Arabia 18 times as much oil as Iraq 21 times as much oil as Kuwait 22 times as much oil as Iran 500 times as much oil as Yemen And it's all right here in the Western United States !!!! HOW can this BE? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this? Because the Environmentalists and others have blocked all efforts to help America become Independent of foreign oil! Again, we are letting a small group of people Dictate our lives and our economy. WHY? James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says we've got more oil in this very compact area than the entire Middle East, more than 2 TRILLION barrels Untapped. That's more than all the proven oil reserves of crude oil in the World today, reports The Denver Post. Don't think 'OPEC' will drop its price even with this find? Think again! It's all about the competitive marketplace, it has to. Think OPEC just might be funding the environmentalists? Got your attention yet? Now, while you're thinking about it? pass this along. -----------------------------------------From: "Peter Dzwig via Healeys" To: "healeys" Cc: Sent: Monday March 21 2022 9:14:23AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heresy!!!!! We own a couple of hybrids - no, not a Healey - and I won't be converting any or buying a fully electric car. The issue for me is range and the inability to recharge in any reasonable amount of time. I live in the country and our nearest charging point is 10 miles away and It takes hours and hours to charge. Using electricity from a domestic source is as bad if not worse. Both charging time and battery range that is critical for me. Several times a year we make a journey of about 1000km (each way) deep into France. Normally in a diesel or petrol car we can do this in about a day and a bit. If we added current recharging times that would add at least the better part of a day. On other occasions we make trips into the far Highlands of Scotland (a similar sort of distance). Up there there are *no* charging points. In fact most electrics wouldn't get me from my home to London without the need for a recharge! Don't get me wrong, in principle the idea is great and important. It is just that we are being sold a technology which isn't sufficiently mature. Conversions come in at tens of thousands of whatever your local currency is - at least! - which I simply don't have. I don't have a solution, although a hydrogen conversion might be more effective at some point. Peter On 19/03/2022 01:39, Bob Spidell wrote: > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric-at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews [1] > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html /> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [2] > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys /> > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys /> > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pdzwig at summaventures.com /> > -- Dr. Peter Dzwig _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html /> Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [3] http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys /> Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys /> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gradea1 at charter.net /> Links: ------ [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-18/vintage-cars-go-electric-at-this-austin-auto-shop?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews [2] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [3] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mpdivito at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 21 11:51:57 2022 From: mpdivito at sbcglobal.net (Michael DiVito) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 13:51:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8 References: <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312.ref@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312@sbcglobal.net> Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having trouble finding the right hardware to connect to the manifold. The plug in the manifold where I will connect the PCV is 3/8? with a fine thread pattern. Does anyone know where I might purchase a suitable connector which has the correct 3/8? threaded end for the manifold connection and a 1/2? barbed end for connection to the PCV? Also if anyone has already done a PCV install advice appreciated. Michael P. DiVito From douglas.barker at videotron.ca Mon Mar 21 08:48:10 2022 From: douglas.barker at videotron.ca (Douglas Barker) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 10:48:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans In-Reply-To: <18A35EFF-2443-E445-9841-65CB59E0ABC9@hxcore.ol> References: <28040e68333fba7b8d34af8d95db33ffe1a68080@webmail> , , <5CFBFEF2-FA62-404A-A751-9F3A501825EE@hxcore.ol>, <18A35EFF-2443-E445-9841-65CB59E0ABC9@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: <7DAFCF36-BFF4-1049-A5B6-D51EF219BEEC@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Mar 21 17:48:52 2022 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 19:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] OD BJ8--update In-Reply-To: <8E7C6A9B-4C00-4940-B5B6-C40AFA1FEDEC@aol.com> References: <3fa8b359-90ab-9eca-c970-10431ff6a519@comcast.net> <8E7C6A9B-4C00-4940-B5B6-C40AFA1FEDEC@aol.com> Message-ID: <1067733686.152670179.1647906532576.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Today, after putting everything back together I took her for a drive. First thing I noticed is that she was I od before I even flipped the switch. Stayed there the whole time even in first gear . Would kick in and out as the speed dropped. Came home--pulled everything to get to the sw. The arm on the right side was sitting higher up over the hole. The solenoid worked nicely and the arm moved up and down.The arm that is moved by the solenoid was clamped toght--no slippage there.\When in OD, the arm did not line up exactly with the hole---off a bit----and a little jiggling allowed the holes to align. Weird that is was i OD and stayed there the whole time.Any additional thoughts? Anyone have a Smitty's 5 speed they want to sell:) I'm getting a bit tired of this OD thing!!tom----- Original Message ----- From: Perry Small via Healeys To: healeys Sent: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD BJ8 Without making this too messy. With the gearbox and o/d in the car and a concern that the solenoid adjustment is not correct or the pressure is low it?s a matter of attaching a wire to lift the old lever and take the car for a ride. Third or Forth gear and pull gently on the wire. The results will tell you where the problem really is. I definitely do not recommend driving the car with the gearbox tunnel removed. Things can get nasty with the driveshaft spinning unprotected that close to you. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2022, at 3:26 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: On 3/20/2022 12:19 PM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: Well, people do, or did at least, sell the gauge and all its fittings ie ready to go. I don?t recall/know who does it and where except that here in the UK Dave at Overdrive Spares sells them. About ?40:00, I think. Plus shipping, of course.Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Henry G Leach via Healeys Sent: 20 March 2022 18:40 To: 'Michael Salter' Cc: 'healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD BJ8 Yes, and I agree with Michael, and Simon's note; a pressure test is in order. Problem always being obtaining a gauge and fittings. However, it is imperative that the pressure be 400+lbs. or it is not producing a good overdrive exchange. Electrics are one thing, and pressure another-then, wear factor a third. If it does not hit 400, you might as well rebuild the unit, or at least clean it and retest. 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Mar 21 18:26:26 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 17:26:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8 In-Reply-To: <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312@sbcglobal.net> References: <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312.ref@sbcglobal.net> <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <710c4b6b-d8ff-43a4-e563-8a0e8430468f@comcast.net> Here's how my mechanic did it. Best to balance both carbs, but using the unused port on the manifold works OK too.? I ran that way for many years; the thread is some sort of Brit thread, I drilled and tapped it for an American one. On 3/21/2022 10:51 AM, Michael DiVito via Healeys wrote: > Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having trouble finding the right hardware to connect to the manifold. The plug in the manifold where I will connect the PCV is 3/8? with a fine thread pattern. Does anyone know where I might purchase a suitable connector which has the correct 3/8? threaded end for the manifold connection and a 1/2? barbed end for connection to the PCV? Also if anyone has already done a PCV install advice appreciated. > > Michael P. DiVito > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Tom Mitchell Ann Arbor, Mi. 48103 65 BJ8 Mark III BRG On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:30 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > Here's how my mechanic did it. Best to balance both carbs, but using the > unused port on the manifold works OK too. I ran that way for many > years; the thread is some sort of Brit thread, I drilled and tapped it > for an American one. > > On 3/21/2022 10:51 AM, Michael DiVito via Healeys wrote: > > Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having trouble finding the right > hardware to connect to the manifold. The plug in the manifold where I will > connect the PCV is 3/8? with a fine thread pattern. Does anyone know where > I might purchase a suitable connector which has the correct 3/8? threaded > end for the manifold connection and a 1/2? barbed end for connection to the > PCV? Also if anyone has already done a PCV install advice appreciated. > > > > Michael P. DiVito > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drtommitch at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 136246 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Mar 21 22:23:02 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 21:23:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312.ref@sbcglobal.net> <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312@sbcglobal.net> <710c4b6b-d8ff-43a4-e563-8a0e8430468f@comcast.net> Message-ID: <069411ff-1a82-a55f-4c6a-1b4397418cf1@comcast.net> Yes, the mechanic--a New Zealander--is very meticulous; he's also an A&P (Aircraft&Powerplant) mechanic. I asked him to install a rear crank seal, but he insisted a PCV was preferable. My BN2 has a rear crank seal but pees oil. I'm looking to fit a PCV valve; it has a lot of crankcase pressure and I suspect the 'road draft' system isn't doing its job, possibly exacerbated by the seal. Thanks for the tip, think I'll grab a couple; did you have it sized per the spec, or just take a SWAG? Bob On 3/21/2022 7:28 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote: > Bob, > That is impressive?work! > > I used "AC CV727C PCV Valve American Motors 1970-65 6 Cyl." I found it > on eBay. > > Someone told me that " NAPA PCV VALVE Part #: CRB 29292" would work, > yet I have not tried it. > image.png > . > I used two pieces?of hose (one inside the other) to get the seal needed. > I'm impressed with the reduction of oil on my floor pan. > > > Tom Mitchell > Ann Arbor, Mi. 48103 > 65 BJ8 Mark? III BRG > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:30 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > > Here's how my mechanic did it. Best to balance both carbs, but > using the > unused port on the manifold works OK too.? I ran that way for many > years; the thread is some sort of Brit thread, I drilled and > tapped it > for an American one. > > On 3/21/2022 10:51 AM, Michael DiVito via Healeys wrote: > > Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having trouble finding > the right hardware to connect to the manifold. The plug in the > manifold where I will connect the PCV is 3/8? with a fine thread > pattern. Does anyone know where I might purchase a suitable > connector which has the correct 3/8? threaded end for the manifold > connection and a 1/2? barbed end for connection to the PCV?? Also > if anyone has already done a PCV install advice appreciated. > > > > Michael P. 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So he picked up the phoned, spoke to Greg, and bought a new 100 chassis. I told you all that to tell you this: He said that Greg and John have found a new buyer for KAS and they will be staying on for a year to train the new staff in all aspects of the business. So, we can all now breathe a huge sigh of relief that I suspect may be heard around the entire Healey world. Keep it shiny side up, Mark Ardmore New Zealand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2022 3:39 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin Automotive Sheetmetals . . . or just Kilmartin?s as we have known them for some 40 years, then to close their order book on 31st May I visited a local member a couple of weeks ago to see how he was progressing with stripping the chassis of a 1954 BN1 he had recently bought in pieces. It was dismantled by the owner with the intent of restoring it. This was about 35 years ago. Can you see where this project was going? ? My friend told me the chassis wasn?t too good and, try as he might, using all of his engineering skills, he couldn?t get it straight. That, and a bit too much ?tin worm?, as DMH used to call it. So he picked up the phoned, spoke to Greg, and bought a new 100 chassis. I told you all that to tell you this: He said that Greg and John have found a new buyer for KAS and they will be staying on for a year to train the new staff in all aspects of the business. So, we can all now breathe a huge sigh of relief that I suspect may be heard around the entire Healey world. Keep it shiny side up, Mark Ardmore New Zealand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 30912 bytes Desc: not available URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 23:38:02 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 22:38:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin Automotive Sheetmetals In-Reply-To: <000201d83da6$ce2b0160$6a810420$@xtra.co.nz> References: <000201d83da6$ce2b0160$6a810420$@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: Fantastic Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 9:40 PM Mark Donaldson via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > . . . or just Kilmartin?s as we have known them for some 40 years, then > to close their order book on 31st May > > > > I visited a local member a couple of weeks ago to see how he was > progressing with stripping the chassis of a 1954 BN1 he had recently bought > in pieces. > > It was dismantled by the owner with the intent of restoring it. > > This was about 35 years ago. Can you see where this project was going? > ? > > > > My friend told me the chassis wasn?t too good and, try as he might, using > all of his engineering skills, he couldn?t get it straight. > > That, and a bit too much ?tin worm?, as DMH used to call it. > > > > So he picked up the phoned, spoke to Greg, and bought a new 100 chassis. > > > > I told you all that to tell you this: > > > > He said that *Greg* and *John* have found a new buyer for *KAS* and they > will be staying on for a year to train the new staff in all aspects of the > business. > > > > So, we can all now breathe a huge sigh of relief that I suspect may be > heard around the entire Healey world. > > > > Keep it shiny side up, > > > > Mark > > Ardmore > > New Zealand > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, Or On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:31 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > Here's how my mechanic did it. Best to balance both carbs, but using the > unused port on the manifold works OK too. I ran that way for many > years; the thread is some sort of Brit thread, I drilled and tapped it > for an American one. > > On 3/21/2022 10:51 AM, Michael DiVito via Healeys wrote: > > Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having trouble finding the right > hardware to connect to the manifold. The plug in the manifold where I will > connect the PCV is 3/8? with a fine thread pattern. Does anyone know where > I might purchase a suitable connector which has the correct 3/8? threaded > end for the manifold connection and a 1/2? barbed end for connection to the > PCV? Also if anyone has already done a PCV install advice appreciated. > > > > Michael P. DiVito > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 23:45:55 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 22:45:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] First start - BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Excellent Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 6:49 PM Alan Seigrist via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > All - > > Don't hate me but for various reasons my BJ8 sat untouched for 10 years > here in HK. > > Anyway, yesterday I connected her all back up and (despite it not being > properly set up for long term storage) she started immediately on the > FIRST turnover of the engine! > > Goes to show that having rebuilt the engine properly back in 1986 and then > putting 100K miles on it in the couple decades after, it really set the > motor up well to sit and not get damaged. She still has the perfect hone > on the cylinder walls from that rebuild. > > FWIW 5 ring pistons have not worn out the cylinders at all. > > I did flush new brake fluid through the whole system, so far no leaks. > Now I have to flush out the cooling system... > > Best, > > Alan > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Mar 22 04:20:38 2022 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 06:20:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJj8 at Mecum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <027201d83dd6$8742fe80$95c8fb80$@rr.com> Previously offered for sale at Russo & Steele auction in Newport Beach, CA in July 2017, and on BaT from Washington state in December 2019. This car claims to be chassis 29295, which originally had body number 74166. However, it has a reproduction VIN plate and the external configuration of the lights argue for a body later than 76137. With clues like that, I?m always suspicious that the car is what it claims to be. Folks would be amazed at the number of BJ8s that have acquired a different identity from what it left the factory with. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of richard mayor via Healeys Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 7:56 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] BJj8 at Mecum I?m told this car sold for only $33,000. Must be the color. It looks like a girls car to me. https://www.mecum.com/lots/AZ0322-494909/1965-austin-healey-3000-convertible/ Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gmolony1 at bigpond.com Tue Mar 22 05:23:05 2022 From: gmolony1 at bigpond.com (Graeme Molony) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 22:23:05 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin Automotive Sheetmetals In-Reply-To: <013701d83da9$29c25a80$7d470f80$@tpg.com.au> References: <000201d83da6$ce2b0160$6a810420$@xtra.co.nz> <013701d83da9$29c25a80$7d470f80$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Great news Patrick Especially for those of us who live down under. Had occasion to ring Greg for a part about 4 weeks ago for my BJ8 . Delivered to my mechanic within 24 hours. Great service and replacement part fitted like a dream. Glad the supply of quality parts will continue Cheers Graeme M ( BJ8 ) From: Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 3:56 PM To: 'Mark Donaldson' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Kilmartin Automotive Sheetmetals Hello I was asked to keep the news close to my chest. Notwithstanding it?s great news. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2022 3:39 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin Automotive Sheetmetals . . . or just Kilmartin?s as we have known them for some 40 years, then to close their order book on 31st May I visited a local member a couple of weeks ago to see how he was progressing with stripping the chassis of a 1954 BN1 he had recently bought in pieces. It was dismantled by the owner with the intent of restoring it. This was about 35 years ago. Can you see where this project was going? ? My friend told me the chassis wasn?t too good and, try as he might, using all of his engineering skills, he couldn?t get it straight. That, and a bit too much ?tin worm?, as DMH used to call it. So he picked up the phoned, spoke to Greg, and bought a new 100 chassis. I told you all that to tell you this: He said that Greg and John have found a new buyer for KAS and they will be staying on for a year to train the new staff in all aspects of the business. So, we can all now breathe a huge sigh of relief that I suspect may be heard around the entire Healey world. Keep it shiny side up, Mark Ardmore New Zealand -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmolony1 at bigpond.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 30912 bytes Desc: not available URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Mar 22 06:28:56 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 08:28:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin Automotive Sheetmetals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Very good news! P Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 22, 2022, at 1:39 AM, i erbs wrote: > > ? > Fantastic > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, OR > >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 9:40 PM Mark Donaldson via Healeys wrote: >> . . . or just Kilmartin?s as we have known them for some 40 years, then to close their order book on 31st May >> >> >> >> I visited a local member a couple of weeks ago to see how he was progressing with stripping the chassis of a 1954 BN1 he had recently bought in pieces. >> >> It was dismantled by the owner with the intent of restoring it. >> >> This was about 35 years ago. Can you see where this project was going? ? >> >> >> >> My friend told me the chassis wasn?t too good and, try as he might, using all of his engineering skills, he couldn?t get it straight. >> >> That, and a bit too much ?tin worm?, as DMH used to call it. >> >> >> >> So he picked up the phoned, spoke to Greg, and bought a new 100 chassis. >> >> >> >> I told you all that to tell you this: >> >> >> >> He said that Greg and John have found a new buyer for KAS and they will be staying on for a year to train the new staff in all aspects of the business. >> >> >> >> So, we can all now breathe a huge sigh of relief that I suspect may be heard around the entire Healey world. >> >> >> >> Keep it shiny side up, >> >> >> >> Mark >> >> Ardmore >> >> New Zealand >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He bought the car for $33k and resold it again before leaving the auction. As far as Mecum goes, they've been expanding their Healey offerings as of late and although formerly a muscle car and street rod auctioneer, they managed to sell a non-factory metallic golden beige 66 BJ8 at Kissimmee in January for $104,000 (check out the Auction Report in the April issue of the Marque) Happy Healeying, Rick Neville On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 6:22 AM BJ8Healeys via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Previously offered for sale at Russo & Steele auction in Newport Beach, CA > in July 2017, and on BaT from Washington state in December 2019. > > > > This car claims to be chassis 29295, which originally had body number > 74166. However, it has a reproduction VIN plate and the external > configuration of the lights argue for a body later than 76137. With clues > like that, I?m always suspicious that the car is what it claims to be. > Folks would be amazed at the number of BJ8s that have acquired a different > identity from what it left the factory with. > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC USA > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *richard > mayor via Healeys > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2022 7:56 PM > *To:* Healeys > *Subject:* [Healeys] BJj8 at Mecum > > > > I?m told this car sold for only $33,000. Must be the color. It looks > like a girls car to me. > > > > > https://www.mecum.com/lots/AZ0322-494909/1965-austin-healey-3000-convertible/ > > > > Richard Mayor > > boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Mar 22 09:14:58 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 08:14:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312.ref@sbcglobal.net> <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312@sbcglobal.net> <710c4b6b-d8ff-43a4-e563-8a0e8430468f@comcast.net> Message-ID: <31d5f4d9-904f-061f-05bb-aba040861a1e@comcast.net> I started with the BCS kit, so I have the sealing washer on the dipstick, and I put a screw in the hole in the oil filler cap (I didn't think solder would stick on the oily cap, and I wanted 'reversible' at the time). At idle, you can feel a vacuum if you put the palm of your hand over the oil filler hole (haven't tried it on the highway). On 3/21/2022 10:43 PM, i erbs wrote: > Did you do anything else? Just ran the pvc to the manifold? That's it? > What about the hole in the oil cap? I have a bj8 manifold on my bt7 > engine. I get a lot of blowby into my rear air filter. Had Rocker arm > checked...all good. > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, Or > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:31 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > > Here's how my mechanic did it. Best to balance both carbs, but > using the > unused port on the manifold works OK too.? I ran that way for many > years; the thread is some sort of Brit thread, I drilled and > tapped it > for an American one. > > On 3/21/2022 10:51 AM, Michael DiVito via Healeys wrote: > > Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having trouble finding > the right hardware to connect to the manifold. The plug in the > manifold where I will connect the PCV is 3/8? with a fine thread > pattern. Does anyone know where I might purchase a suitable > connector which has the correct 3/8? threaded end for the manifold > connection and a 1/2? barbed end for connection to the PCV?? Also > if anyone has already done a PCV install advice appreciated. > > > > Michael P. DiVito > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 09:30:04 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 08:30:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8 In-Reply-To: <31d5f4d9-904f-061f-05bb-aba040861a1e@comcast.net> References: <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312.ref@sbcglobal.net> <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312@sbcglobal.net> <710c4b6b-d8ff-43a4-e563-8a0e8430468f@comcast.net> <31d5f4d9-904f-061f-05bb-aba040861a1e@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thanks for the tip! Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 8:15 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > I started with the BCS kit, so I have the sealing washer on the dipstick, > and I put a screw in the hole in the oil filler cap (I didn't think solder > would stick on the oily cap, and I wanted 'reversible' at the time). At > idle, you can feel a vacuum if you put the palm of your hand over the oil > filler hole (haven't tried it on the highway). > > > On 3/21/2022 10:43 PM, i erbs wrote: > > Did you do anything else? Just ran the pvc to the manifold? That's it? > What about the hole in the oil cap? I have a bj8 manifold on my bt7 engine. > I get a lot of blowby into my rear air filter. Had Rocker arm checked...all > good. > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, Or > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:31 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > >> Here's how my mechanic did it. Best to balance both carbs, but using the >> unused port on the manifold works OK too. I ran that way for many >> years; the thread is some sort of Brit thread, I drilled and tapped it >> for an American one. >> >> On 3/21/2022 10:51 AM, Michael DiVito via Healeys wrote: >> > Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having trouble finding the >> right hardware to connect to the manifold. The plug in the manifold where I >> will connect the PCV is 3/8? with a fine thread pattern. Does anyone know >> where I might purchase a suitable connector which has the correct 3/8? >> threaded end for the manifold connection and a 1/2? barbed end for >> connection to the PCV? Also if anyone has already done a PCV install >> advice appreciated. >> > >> > Michael P. DiVito >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 3/22/2022 6:02 AM, HealeyRick via Healeys wrote: > Steve, > > Thanks so much for chiming in on this car.? With the deadline for my > "Auction Report" column in Healey Marque looming over my head, this > was to be the lede car.? The extra info you provided will add to the > story.? The buyer of the car just posted that the car would not start > during the auction and its brakes were bad.? It was also sold on > Thursday, not an ideal slot to get the most return.? He bought the car > for $33k and resold it again before leaving the auction. > > As far as Mecum goes, they've been expanding their Healey offerings as > of late and although formerly a muscle car and street rod auctioneer, > they managed to sell a non-factory metallic golden beige 66 BJ8 at > Kissimmee in January for $104,000 (check out the Auction Report in the > April issue of the Marque) > > Happy Healeying, > Rick Neville > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 6:22 AM BJ8Healeys via Healeys > wrote: > > Previously offered for sale at Russo & Steele auction in Newport > Beach, CA in July 2017, and on BaT from Washington state in > December 2019. > > This car claims to be chassis 29295, which originally had body > number 74166.? However, it has a reproduction VIN plate and the > external configuration of the lights argue for a body later than > 76137.? With clues like that, I?m always suspicious that the car > is what it claims to be.? Folks would be amazed at the number of > BJ8s that have acquired a different identity from what it left the > factory with. > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC? USA > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf > Of *richard mayor via Healeys > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2022 7:56 PM > *To:* Healeys > *Subject:* [Healeys] BJj8 at Mecum > > I?m told this car sold for only $33,000.? Must be the color.? It > looks like a girls car to me. > > https://www.mecum.com/lots/AZ0322-494909/1965-austin-healey-3000-convertible/ > > Richard Mayor > > boyracer466 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 10:24:53 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 12:24:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312.ref@sbcglobal.net> <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312@sbcglobal.net> <710c4b6b-d8ff-43a4-e563-8a0e8430468f@comcast.net> <31d5f4d9-904f-061f-05bb-aba040861a1e@comcast.net> Message-ID: Well the system that I installed on my BN1 using a Toyota Pathfinder valve was somewhat effective but certainly not perfect. Not easy to see in the attached pic. I found that at normal cruise the ccp ranged between +2" and -3". Lifting off the throttle momentarily would establish the -3" pressure which would hold until the engine was taken back to idle. After that the pressure would fluctuate as one accelerated through the gears then establish at around 0 in at steady speed until the throttle was closed, then back to -3". I'm fairly sure that these figures are a consequence of the type of PCV valve used but it is impossible to get specific information about various valves. M On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 12:00 p.m. Bob Spidell, wrote: > Hmmmmm ... looks like the hard plastic tube you get with oil suction > pumps. So, what does it reveal? > bs > > On 3/22/2022 8:52 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > > It's actually quite easy to test on the highway. > I made this very basic manometer and plugged the end of the tube into the > dipstick hole. > Drive around with a passenger watching the displacement of the water in > the tube ... very revealing. > > M > > On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 11:15 a.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > >> I started with the BCS kit, so I have the sealing washer on the dipstick, >> and I put a screw in the hole in the oil filler cap (I didn't think solder >> would stick on the oily cap, and I wanted 'reversible' at the time). At >> idle, you can feel a vacuum if you put the palm of your hand over the oil >> filler hole (haven't tried it on the highway). >> >> >> On 3/21/2022 10:43 PM, i erbs wrote: >> >> Did you do anything else? Just ran the pvc to the manifold? That's it? >> What about the hole in the oil cap? I have a bj8 manifold on my bt7 engine. >> I get a lot of blowby into my rear air filter. Had Rocker arm checked...all >> good. >> >> Ira Erbs >> 1959 AH 100-6 >> 1967 MGB >> Milwaukie, Or >> >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:31 PM Bob Spidell wrote: >> >>> Here's how my mechanic did it. Best to balance both carbs, but using the >>> unused port on the manifold works OK too. I ran that way for many >>> years; the thread is some sort of Brit thread, I drilled and tapped it >>> for an American one. >>> >>> On 3/21/2022 10:51 AM, Michael DiVito via Healeys wrote: >>> > Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having trouble finding the >>> right hardware to connect to the manifold. The plug in the manifold where I >>> will connect the PCV is 3/8? with a fine thread pattern. Does anyone know >>> where I might purchase a suitable connector which has the correct 3/8? >>> threaded end for the manifold connection and a 1/2? barbed end for >>> connection to the PCV? Also if anyone has already done a PCV install >>> advice appreciated. >>> > >>> > Michael P. DiVito >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20210909_141526.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4235425 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Mar 22 10:31:58 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:31:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312.ref@sbcglobal.net> <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312@sbcglobal.net> <710c4b6b-d8ff-43a4-e563-8a0e8430468f@comcast.net> <31d5f4d9-904f-061f-05bb-aba040861a1e@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2b7c780a-da3e-33c3-e2c2-389186373178@comcast.net> Looks like a clean install to me (I like the 'aftermarket' heat shield; I have one made for a 100M on the shelf if I do get around to installing PCV on my BN2). How did you seal up the road draft tube? Any noticeable effect on oil consumption/drips?). On 3/22/2022 9:24 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > Well the system that I installed on my BN1 using a Toyota Pathfinder > valve was somewhat effective but certainly not perfect. Not easy to > see in the attached pic. > I found that at normal cruise the ccp ranged between +2" and -3". > Lifting off the throttle momentarily would establish the -3" pressure > which would hold until the engine was taken back to idle. After that > the pressure would fluctuate as one accelerated through the gears then > establish at around 0 in at steady speed until the throttle was > closed, then back to -3". > I'm fairly sure that these figures are a consequence of the type of > PCV valve used but it is impossible to get specific information about > various valves. > M > > On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 12:00 p.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > > Hmmmmm ... looks like the hard plastic tube you get with oil > suction pumps. So, what does it reveal? > bs > > On 3/22/2022 8:52 AM, Michael Salter wrote: >> It's actually quite easy to test on the highway. >> I made this very basic manometer and plugged the end of the tube >> into the dipstick hole. >> Drive around with a passenger watching the displacement of the >> water in the tube ...? very revealing. >> >> M >> >> On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 11:15 a.m. Bob Spidell, >> wrote: >> >> I started with the BCS kit, so I have the sealing washer on >> the dipstick, and I put a screw in the hole in the oil filler >> cap (I didn't think solder would stick on the oily cap, and I >> wanted 'reversible' at the time). At idle, you can feel a >> vacuum if you put the palm of your hand over the oil filler >> hole (haven't tried it on the highway). >> >> >> On 3/21/2022 10:43 PM, i erbs wrote: >>> Did you do anything else? Just ran the pvc to the manifold? >>> That's it? What about the hole in the oil cap? I have a bj8 >>> manifold on my bt7 engine. I get a lot of blowby into my >>> rear air filter. Had Rocker arm checked...all good. >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> 1959 AH 100-6 >>> 1967 MGB >>> Milwaukie, Or >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:31 PM Bob Spidell >>> wrote: >>> >>> Here's how my mechanic did it. Best to balance both >>> carbs, but using the >>> unused port on the manifold works OK too.? I ran that >>> way for many >>> years; the thread is some sort of Brit thread, I drilled >>> and tapped it >>> for an American one. >>> >>> On 3/21/2022 10:51 AM, Michael DiVito via Healeys wrote: >>> > Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having trouble >>> finding the right hardware to connect to the manifold. >>> The plug in the manifold where I will connect the PCV is >>> 3/8? with a fine thread pattern. Does anyone know where >>> I might purchase a suitable connector which has the >>> correct 3/8? threaded end for the manifold connection >>> and a 1/2? barbed end for connection to the PCV?? 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URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 10:57:33 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 12:57:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8 In-Reply-To: <5228CAB5-5969-4742-B078-2CE0B1831149@hxcore.ol> References: <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312.ref@sbcglobal.net> <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312@sbcglobal.net> <710c4b6b-d8ff-43a4-e563-8a0e8430468f@comcast.net> <31d5f4d9-904f-061f-05bb-aba040861a1e@comcast.net> <5228CAB5-5969-4742-B078-2CE0B1831149@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: That particular PCV valve was selected because that is it's orientation in its OEM use and it is spring closed. M On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 12:51 p.m. Harold Manifold, wrote: > Michael, > > > > Nice job done on the PCV system. I have been trying different > configurations as well and agree finding the right PCV valve is important. > Is the Toyota PCV you used gravity to close (i.e. should be mounted > vertically) or spring to close so it will work in all orientations. Most of > the PCV valves I have come across should be mounted vertically and mine > would be horizontal. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Harold > > > > *From: *Michael Salter via Healeys > *Sent: *Tuesday, March 22, 2022 9:28 AM > *To: *Bob Spidell ; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8 > > > > Well the system that I installed on my BN1 using a Toyota Pathfinder valve > was somewhat effective but certainly not perfect. Not easy to see in the > attached pic. > > I found that at normal cruise the ccp ranged between +2" and -3". > > Lifting off the throttle momentarily would establish the -3" pressure > which would hold until the engine was taken back to idle. After that the > pressure would fluctuate as one accelerated through the gears then > establish at around 0 in at steady speed until the throttle was closed, > then back to -3". > > I'm fairly sure that these figures are a consequence of the type of PCV > valve used but it is impossible to get specific information about various > valves. > > M > > > > On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 12:00 p.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > > Hmmmmm ... looks like the hard plastic tube you get with oil suction > pumps. So, what does it reveal? > bs > > On 3/22/2022 8:52 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > > It's actually quite easy to test on the highway. > > I made this very basic manometer and plugged the end of the tube into the > dipstick hole. > > Drive around with a passenger watching the displacement of the water in > the tube ... very revealing. > > > > M > > > > On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 11:15 a.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > > I started with the BCS kit, so I have the sealing washer on the dipstick, > and I put a screw in the hole in the oil filler cap (I didn't think solder > would stick on the oily cap, and I wanted 'reversible' at the time). At > idle, you can feel a vacuum if you put the palm of your hand over the oil > filler hole (haven't tried it on the highway). > > On 3/21/2022 10:43 PM, i erbs wrote: > > Did you do anything else? Just ran the pvc to the manifold? That's it? > What about the hole in the oil cap? I have a bj8 manifold on my bt7 engine. > I get a lot of blowby into my rear air filter. Had Rocker arm checked...all > good. > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, Or > > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:31 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > > Here's how my mechanic did it. Best to balance both carbs, but using the > unused port on the manifold works OK too. I ran that way for many > years; the thread is some sort of Brit thread, I drilled and tapped it > for an American one. > > On 3/21/2022 10:51 AM, Michael DiVito via Healeys wrote: > > Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having trouble finding the right > hardware to connect to the manifold. The plug in the manifold where I will > connect the PCV is 3/8? with a fine thread pattern. Does anyone know where > I might purchase a suitable connector which has the correct 3/8? threaded > end for the manifold connection and a 1/2? barbed end for connection to the > PCV? 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URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 11:05:04 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 13:05:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PCV installation BJ8 In-Reply-To: <2b7c780a-da3e-33c3-e2c2-389186373178@comcast.net> References: <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312.ref@sbcglobal.net> <374BCB36-0EF4-4618-A454-5E39E7D7F312@sbcglobal.net> <710c4b6b-d8ff-43a4-e563-8a0e8430468f@comcast.net> <31d5f4d9-904f-061f-05bb-aba040861a1e@comcast.net> <2b7c780a-da3e-33c3-e2c2-389186373178@comcast.net> Message-ID: The road draft tube has an aluminium plug with an "O" ring on it pushed is and secured with a small screw from the back. Yes there has been a significant decrease in oil consumption, there is no longer a stale oil smell in the car and oil drips are now only 1 or 2 each time I stop. M On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 12:32 p.m. Bob Spidell, wrote: > Looks like a clean install to me (I like the 'aftermarket' heat shield; I > have one made for a 100M on the shelf if I do get around to installing PCV > on my BN2). How did you seal up the road draft tube? Any noticeable effect > on oil consumption/drips?). > > > On 3/22/2022 9:24 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > > Well the system that I installed on my BN1 using a Toyota Pathfinder valve > was somewhat effective but certainly not perfect. Not easy to see in the > attached pic. > I found that at normal cruise the ccp ranged between +2" and -3". > Lifting off the throttle momentarily would establish the -3" pressure > which would hold until the engine was taken back to idle. After that the > pressure would fluctuate as one accelerated through the gears then > establish at around 0 in at steady speed until the throttle was closed, > then back to -3". > I'm fairly sure that these figures are a consequence of the type of PCV > valve used but it is impossible to get specific information about various > valves. > M > > On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 12:00 p.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > >> Hmmmmm ... looks like the hard plastic tube you get with oil suction >> pumps. So, what does it reveal? >> bs >> >> On 3/22/2022 8:52 AM, Michael Salter wrote: >> >> It's actually quite easy to test on the highway. >> I made this very basic manometer and plugged the end of the tube into the >> dipstick hole. >> Drive around with a passenger watching the displacement of the water in >> the tube ... very revealing. >> >> M >> >> On Tue., Mar. 22, 2022, 11:15 a.m. Bob Spidell, >> wrote: >> >>> I started with the BCS kit, so I have the sealing washer on the >>> dipstick, and I put a screw in the hole in the oil filler cap (I didn't >>> think solder would stick on the oily cap, and I wanted 'reversible' at the >>> time). At idle, you can feel a vacuum if you put the palm of your hand over >>> the oil filler hole (haven't tried it on the highway). >>> >>> >>> On 3/21/2022 10:43 PM, i erbs wrote: >>> >>> Did you do anything else? Just ran the pvc to the manifold? That's it? >>> What about the hole in the oil cap? I have a bj8 manifold on my bt7 engine. >>> I get a lot of blowby into my rear air filter. Had Rocker arm checked...all >>> good. >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> 1959 AH 100-6 >>> 1967 MGB >>> Milwaukie, Or >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:31 PM Bob Spidell wrote: >>> >>>> Here's how my mechanic did it. Best to balance both carbs, but using >>>> the >>>> unused port on the manifold works OK too. I ran that way for many >>>> years; the thread is some sort of Brit thread, I drilled and tapped it >>>> for an American one. >>>> >>>> On 3/21/2022 10:51 AM, Michael DiVito via Healeys wrote: >>>> > Planning to install a PCV on my BJ8 and having trouble finding the >>>> right hardware to connect to the manifold. The plug in the manifold where I >>>> will connect the PCV is 3/8? with a fine thread pattern. Does anyone know >>>> where I might purchase a suitable connector which has the correct 3/8? >>>> threaded end for the manifold connection and a 1/2? barbed end for >>>> connection to the PCV? 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Removed the solonoid piston---ran it up in 3rd--manually moved the arm into OD position---did not go into OD.So--OD does not engage---by this testing method I'm not sure if it is still IN OD or not-----last time I drove it is WAS in OD all the time---whether I flipped the switch or not.So--------ASSUMING it is in OD all the time regardless of where the switch is--wouldn't that say that it is not a pressure problem?? If not, what could that mean?ASSUMING is was NOT in OD as I was testing it, and wouldn't go into OD, could that mean a pressure problem?With me moving the arm manually and not getting any reaction would that rule out a solenoid arm adjustment as the problem?I'm still leaning toward a pressure problem---caused by----????? Guess next I'll try to do a pressure ck. Steve---------if you would, please send the equipment. ThanksAppreciate all comments/advice.ThanksTomPS---before I had the unit rebuilt, it operated beautifully---and I had Red Line MTL oil in it. I'm thinking of dumping the 30w ND and adding MTL------wishful thinking probably. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ah100tech at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 08:13:46 2022 From: ah100tech at gmail.com (john harper) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 14:13:46 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] OD-BJ8----on and on:) In-Reply-To: <1399312109.156119633.1648130294401.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1399312109.156119633.1648130294401.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: Tom Assuming that the OD is always engaged it might mean that there is permanent pressure in the main operating pistons. This can be relieved by the movement of the main valve. This could stick or may be blocked. There is only a very small hole in the bottom of the valve and this could be blocked. The valve can easily be accessed by removing the threaded plug at the top of the OD and the valve pulled out. The book suggests using the tongue of a file. This possibly is only applicable should as you say the OD be permanently engaged Best regards On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 at 13:59, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote: > So continuation of my search for OD problem answers. > > today I jacked up the rear. put it in 3rd, rev'ed up pretty > good---flipped the OD sw---did not engage-----solenoid moving the arm up > and down beautifully. Removed the solonoid piston---ran it up in > 3rd--manually moved the arm into > OD position---did not go into OD. > > So--OD does not engage---by this testing method I'm not sure if it is > still IN OD or not-----last time I drove it is WAS in > OD all the time---whether I flipped the switch or not. > > So--------ASSUMING it is in OD all the time regardless of where the switch > is--wouldn't that say that it is not a pressure problem?? If not, what > could that mean? > > ASSUMING is was NOT in OD as I was testing it, and wouldn't go into OD, > could that mean a pressure problem? > > With me moving the arm manually and not getting any reaction would that > rule out a solenoid arm adjustment as the problem? > > I'm still leaning toward a pressure problem---caused by----????? > > Guess next I'll try to do a pressure ck. Steve---------if you would, > please send the equipment. Thanks > > Appreciate all comments/advice. > > Thanks > Tom > PS---before I had the unit rebuilt, it operated beautifully---and I had > Red Line MTL oil in it. I'm thinking of dumping the 30w ND and adding > MTL------wishful thinking probably. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 08:29:18 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 10:29:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] OD-BJ8----on and on:) In-Reply-To: <1399312109.156119633.1648130294401.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1399312109.156119633.1648130294401.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: Absolutely agree with John. Remove the operating valve plug (use a 7/16" *SIX *point socket as these are easily rounded off) This will ensure that the pressure is dissipated (be a little careful removing the plug because it there is pressure in the system it will be expelled vigorously) Lift out the spring, top hat, ball and valve ( I use a piece of coat hanger wire with a slight bend about 1 inch from the end) Check that the pressure bleed off hole in the valve is clear (wash it out thoroughly) Reassemble everything and test again with a pressure gauge. M On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 9:58 AM Tom Felts via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > So continuation of my search for OD problem answers. > > today I jacked up the rear. put it in 3rd, rev'ed up pretty > good---flipped the OD sw---did not engage-----solenoid moving the arm up > and down beautifully. Removed the solonoid piston---ran it up in > 3rd--manually moved the arm into > OD position---did not go into OD. > > So--OD does not engage---by this testing method I'm not sure if it is > still IN OD or not-----last time I drove it is WAS in > OD all the time---whether I flipped the switch or not. > > So--------ASSUMING it is in OD all the time regardless of where the switch > is--wouldn't that say that it is not a pressure problem?? If not, what > could that mean? > > ASSUMING is was NOT in OD as I was testing it, and wouldn't go into OD, > could that mean a pressure problem? > > With me moving the arm manually and not getting any reaction would that > rule out a solenoid arm adjustment as the problem? > > I'm still leaning toward a pressure problem---caused by----????? > > Guess next I'll try to do a pressure ck. Steve---------if you would, > please send the equipment. Thanks > > Appreciate all comments/advice. > > Thanks > Tom > PS---before I had the unit rebuilt, it operated beautifully---and I had > Red Line MTL oil in it. I'm thinking of dumping the 30w ND and adding > MTL------wishful thinking probably. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 08:50:30 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 07:50:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] OD-BJ8----on and on:) In-Reply-To: <1399312109.156119633.1648130294401.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1399312109.156119633.1648130294401.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: It's a big problem if stuck in OD. You need to verify Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 6:59 AM Tom Felts via Healeys wrote: > So continuation of my search for OD problem answers. > > today I jacked up the rear. put it in 3rd, rev'ed up pretty > good---flipped the OD sw---did not engage-----solenoid moving the arm up > and down beautifully. Removed the solonoid piston---ran it up in > 3rd--manually moved the arm into > OD position---did not go into OD. > > So--OD does not engage---by this testing method I'm not sure if it is > still IN OD or not-----last time I drove it is WAS in > OD all the time---whether I flipped the switch or not. > > So--------ASSUMING it is in OD all the time regardless of where the switch > is--wouldn't that say that it is not a pressure problem?? If not, what > could that mean? > > ASSUMING is was NOT in OD as I was testing it, and wouldn't go into OD, > could that mean a pressure problem? > > With me moving the arm manually and not getting any reaction would that > rule out a solenoid arm adjustment as the problem? > > I'm still leaning toward a pressure problem---caused by----????? > > Guess next I'll try to do a pressure ck. Steve---------if you would, > please send the equipment. Thanks > > Appreciate all comments/advice. > > Thanks > Tom > PS---before I had the unit rebuilt, it operated beautifully---and I had > Red Line MTL oil in it. I'm thinking of dumping the 30w ND and adding > MTL------wishful thinking probably. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If it is stuck in OD all the time, do not drive it in reverse or you will damage the OD.?Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Tom Felts via Healeys To: healeys Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2022 8:58 am Subject: [Healeys] OD-BJ8----on and on:) #yiv0199947297 body {min-height:100%;color:#000000;font-size:12pt;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;}So continuation of my search for OD problem answers. today I jacked up the rear.? put it in? 3rd, rev'ed up pretty good---flipped the OD sw---did not engage-----solenoid moving the arm up and down beautifully.? Removed the solonoid piston---ran it up in 3rd--manually moved the arm into? OD position---did not go into OD. So--OD does not engage---by this testing method I'm not sure if it is still IN OD or not-----last time I drove it is WAS in? OD all the time---whether I flipped the switch or not. So--------ASSUMING it is in OD all the time regardless of where the switch is--wouldn't that say that it is not a pressure problem??? If not, what could that mean? ASSUMING is was NOT in OD as?I was testing it, and wouldn't go into OD, could that mean a pressure problem? With?me moving the arm manually and not getting any reaction would that rule out a solenoid arm adjustment as the problem? I'm still leaning toward a pressure problem---caused by----??????? Guess next I'll try to do a pressure ck.? Steve---------if you would, please send the equipment.? Thanks Appreciate all comments/advice. ThanksTomPS---before I had the unit rebuilt, it operated beautifully---and I had Red Line MTL oil in it.? I'm thinking of dumping the 30w ND and adding MTL------wishful thinking probably. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Thu Mar 24 11:33:33 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 17:33:33 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] OD-BJ8----on and on:) Message-ID: There is another issue to consider. If it is stuck in OD and you have already driven it and reversed the car, it is possible that the sun gear is jammed (damaged beyond movement) and will give you the indication that you are engaged-permanently. The problem could have started with a faulty lock out switch which then locked up the epicyclic clutch and left you with permanent (frozen) OD. As Ira says...big problem. New parts are available from OD Spares, UK. If you push the gear leaver to the right does the solenoid click, indicating lockout? If not you must replace the switch before EVER USING REVERSE with this or a rebuilt unit. I would take Gary's advise and contact the rebuilder of the unit-may have to pull the trans to get his attention. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "warthodson--- via Healeys" To: "healeys at autox.team.net" Cc: Sent: Thursday March 24 2022 9:44:11AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD-BJ8----on and on:) Your problem is not the 30 wt oil vs MTL. I do not recall if you have mentioned who rebuilt the OD. Have you discussed this issue with them? If it is stuck in OD all the time, do not drive it in reverse or you will damage the OD. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Tom Felts via Healeys To: healeys Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2022 8:58 am Subject: [Healeys] OD-BJ8----on and on:) So continuation of my search for OD problem answers. today I jacked up the rear. put it in 3rd, rev'ed up pretty good---flipped the OD sw---did not engage-----solenoid moving the arm up and down beautifully. Removed the solonoid piston---ran it up in 3rd--manually moved the arm into OD position---did not go into OD. So--OD does not engage---by this testing method I'm not sure if it is still IN OD or not-----last time I drove it is WAS in OD all the time---whether I flipped the switch or not. So--------ASSUMING it is in OD all the time regardless of where the switch is--wouldn't that say that it is not a pressure problem?? If not, what could that mean? ASSUMING is was NOT in OD as I was testing it, and wouldn't go into OD, could that mean a pressure problem? With me moving the arm manually and not getting any reaction would that rule out a solenoid arm adjustment as the problem? I'm still leaning toward a pressure problem---caused by----????? Guess next I'll try to do a pressure ck. Steve---------if you would, please send the equipment. Thanks Appreciate all comments/advice. Thanks Tom PS---before I had the unit rebuilt, it operated beautifully---and I had Red Line MTL oil in it. 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URL: From healeydoc at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 15:09:26 2022 From: healeydoc at gmail.com (David Nock) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 14:09:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] OD-BJ8----on and on:) In-Reply-To: References: <1399312109.156119633.1648130294401.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: <1F9632F15F4D4F3ABDD096F3DEB2B45C@DavidNockHP> To start off if the overdrive is engaged you CAN NOT BACK UP. It will feel like the brakes are on and eventually damage the inside of the planetary gears. So if you can back up the car with no problems it is not stuck in overdrive. When you are operating the lever on the right side of the overdrive are you moving it far enough that you are raising the operating rod. If you are testing in while running you will not be able to lift it by hand. You will need a pair of pliers to operate by hand. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: i erbs via Healeys Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 7:50 AM To: Tom Felts Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD-BJ8----on and on:) It's a big problem if stuck in OD. You need to verify Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 6:59 AM Tom Felts via Healeys wrote: So continuation of my search for OD problem answers.\ \ today I jacked up the rear. put it in 3rd, rev'ed up pretty good---flipped the OD sw---did not engage-----solenoid moving the arm up and down beautifully. Removed the solonoid piston---ran it up in 3rd--manually moved the arm into OD position---did not go into OD. So--OD does not engage---by this testing method I'm not sure if it is still IN OD or not-----last time I drove it is WAS in OD all the time---whether I flipped the switch or not. So--------ASSUMING it is in OD all the time regardless of where the switch is--wouldn't that say that it is not a pressure problem?? If not, what could that mean? ASSUMING is was NOT in OD as I was testing it, and wouldn't go into OD, could that mean a pressure problem? With me moving the arm manually and not getting any reaction would that rule out a solenoid arm adjustment as the problem? I'm still leaning toward a pressure problem---caused by----????? Guess next I'll try to do a pressure ck. Steve---------if you would, please send the equipment. Thanks Appreciate all comments/advice. Thanks Tom PS---before I had the unit rebuilt, it operated beautifully---and I had Red Line MTL oil in it. I'm thinking of dumping the 30w ND and adding MTL------wishful thinking probably. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alan.bromfield at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 10:05:07 2022 From: alan.bromfield at gmail.com (Alan Bromfield) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 16:05:07 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] OD-BJ8----on and on:) Message-ID: <21F68F50-50FE-4998-97AE-3C4417E32C0C@gmail.com> ?As Ira says. If stuck in O/D then do NOT reverse. It will destroy the sprag clutch on the output shaft. The clue is the Big Bang as it lets go. AlanB Bluehealey.com AlanB > On 24 Mar 2022, at 14:51, i erbs via Healeys wrote: > ? > It's a big problem if stuck in OD. > You need to verify > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, OR > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 6:59 AM Tom Felts via Healeys wrote: >> So continuation of my search for OD problem answers. >> >> today I jacked up the rear. put it in 3rd, rev'ed up pretty good---flipped the OD sw---did not engage-----solenoid moving the arm up and down beautifully. Removed the solonoid piston---ran it up in 3rd--manually moved the arm into >> OD position---did not go into OD. >> >> So--OD does not engage---by this testing method I'm not sure if it is still IN OD or not-----last time I drove it is WAS in >> OD all the time---whether I flipped the switch or not. >> >> So--------ASSUMING it is in OD all the time regardless of where the switch is--wouldn't that say that it is not a pressure problem?? If not, what could that mean? >> >> ASSUMING is was NOT in OD as I was testing it, and wouldn't go into OD, could that mean a pressure problem? >> >> With me moving the arm manually and not getting any reaction would that rule out a solenoid arm adjustment as the problem? >> >> I'm still leaning toward a pressure problem---caused by----????? >> >> Guess next I'll try to do a pressure ck. Steve---------if you would, please send the equipment. Thanks >> >> Appreciate all comments/advice. >> >> Thanks >> Tom >> PS---before I had the unit rebuilt, it operated beautifully---and I had Red Line MTL oil in it. I'm thinking of dumping the 30w ND and adding MTL------wishful thinking probably. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bluehealey at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 20:22:57 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:22:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] OD-BJ8----on and on:) In-Reply-To: <21F68F50-50FE-4998-97AE-3C4417E32C0C@gmail.com> References: <21F68F50-50FE-4998-97AE-3C4417E32C0C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeppers Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 7:21 PM Alan Bromfield wrote: > ?As Ira says. If stuck in O/D then do NOT reverse. It will destroy the > sprag clutch on the output shaft. > The clue is the Big Bang as it lets go. > > AlanB > Bluehealey.com > > > AlanB > > On 24 Mar 2022, at 14:51, i erbs via Healeys > wrote: > > ? > It's a big problem if stuck in OD. > You need to verify > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, OR > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 6:59 AM Tom Felts via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> So continuation of my search for OD problem answers. >> >> today I jacked up the rear. put it in 3rd, rev'ed up pretty >> good---flipped the OD sw---did not engage-----solenoid moving the arm up >> and down beautifully. Removed the solonoid piston---ran it up in >> 3rd--manually moved the arm into >> OD position---did not go into OD. >> >> So--OD does not engage---by this testing method I'm not sure if it is >> still IN OD or not-----last time I drove it is WAS in >> OD all the time---whether I flipped the switch or not. >> >> So--------ASSUMING it is in OD all the time regardless of where the >> switch is--wouldn't that say that it is not a pressure problem?? If not, >> what could that mean? >> >> ASSUMING is was NOT in OD as I was testing it, and wouldn't go into OD, >> could that mean a pressure problem? >> >> With me moving the arm manually and not getting any reaction would that >> rule out a solenoid arm adjustment as the problem? >> >> I'm still leaning toward a pressure problem---caused by----????? >> >> Guess next I'll try to do a pressure ck. Steve---------if you would, >> please send the equipment. Thanks >> >> Appreciate all comments/advice. >> >> Thanks >> Tom >> PS---before I had the unit rebuilt, it operated beautifully---and I had >> Red Line MTL oil in it. 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They did a hammertone green that I used to use. The price tag ($3.69!) has stock number 47 4034 on it. I have two cans, both about 2/3 full, but the caps and nozzles are missing. The hammertone paint was prone to blocking and I probably took them out for cleaning and they got lost. I imagine the propellant is long gone too. However, if there is any chance of using it you are welcome to it. I will bring it along when we meet to look at the wiper arms. Also, there is an automotive paint supply company here in town that has made up rattle cans of spray paint for me for touching up. They did the paint for the engine bay on the Healey which we just dropped the engine back into. They use a scanner to determine mixes and they have been right on in their matches. I?d be happy to take a can to them and see if they can either re-can it or re-charge the propellant. Failing that, I could puncture the can, paint a surface with the contents and then take it to them to scan and make up a can. Let me know if any of the above is helpful. Cheers, Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: March 24, 2022 10:39 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Hammertone green I have been unsuccessful I my search for light green Hammertone or hammer finish paint for my BN2 airfilter housings. Does anyone know where this may be available or even have a can or part can that I can purchase? M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 07:39:45 2022 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 06:39:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hammertone green In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gentlemen, The correct hammertone green (that matched engine color) for the air cleaners from off the shelf sources DOES NOT EXIST! When Roger M. and I did our cars we took a green shade that was close and added pigment (white, black and yellow) to perfectly match the engine color. Not easy, but doable and worth the effort. *"When you go from a 98 point car to a 100 point car, you double the cost of the restoration."* Cheers, Curt On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 7:40 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I have been unsuccessful I my search for light green Hammertone or hammer > finish paint for my BN2 airfilter housings. > Does anyone know where this may be available or even have a can or part > can that I can purchase? > > M > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_2608.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 147261 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_2607.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 152187 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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New solenoid required and some careful setup. M On Fri., Mar. 25, 2022, 10:50 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Since we?re on the OD topic?. > > I took my MkII BT7 out the other day, first time for ages, 8 weeks+/-. > > Anyhow, the OD didn?t work. I?d been to a carpet trimmer and left my > tunnel cover with him so access was easy?? > > The solenoid was very hot?too hot to touch which made me suspicious. > Anyhow, I did my OD electrical click-test and it failed at the first > hurdle. So, I took the solenoid out and?well, look at the picture. > > The plastic/nylon cover to the points and wiring was virtually welded in > place. And the inside is a complete mess. > > So, the OD was rebuilt about 50 miles ago by OD Spares and I?m happy with > the wiring. My question is this?is there a frequent or a probable cause to > these fry ups?? These things check out at about ?50:00 so I don?t want to > be chucking them in at regular intervals. Anything in particular that I > should look out for??? > > Thanks, > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ah100tech at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 12:01:31 2022 From: ah100tech at gmail.com (john harper) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 18:01:31 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Fried OD Solenoid In-Reply-To: References: <000901d84057$8c043cd0$a40cb670$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Simon The overheating is likely to because the armature has not risen enough to break the contacts to the heavy pick coil. There is for a short while about 22 amps is flowing which heats up the heavy coil to the point where it fails or the heavy contacts burn out. When operating correctly only the hold current should be taken; perhaps 3 amps. The action is that the heavy coil is needed to raise armature until when it is at the top it breaks the heavy current. The hold coil is sufficient to do as it says and keeps the armature in place causing the overdrive to operate. A frequent cause of the ODs with an open frame and with a rubber bottom stop is that this rubber button rots with oil or falls out. With the armature lower than it should be with the button in place the pick current is insufficient to lift the armature with only part of it inside the coil. the coil will then keep taking current. On mine, I have drilled and tapped the hole in which the rubber stop was fitted to allow a bolt and nut to be fitted that can then be adjusted as is possible on the enclosed versions Best regards On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 15:13, Michael Salter wrote: > Bluntly Simon, the operating valve was NOT set up correctly. > The "pull" coil was still being powered and drawing probably some 20 amps. > New solenoid required and some careful setup. > > M > > On Fri., Mar. 25, 2022, 10:50 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Since we?re on the OD topic?. >> >> I took my MkII BT7 out the other day, first time for ages, 8 weeks+/-. >> >> Anyhow, the OD didn?t work. I?d been to a carpet trimmer and left my >> tunnel cover with him so access was easy?? >> >> The solenoid was very hot?too hot to touch which made me suspicious. >> Anyhow, I did my OD electrical click-test and it failed at the first >> hurdle. So, I took the solenoid out and?well, look at the picture. >> >> The plastic/nylon cover to the points and wiring was virtually welded in >> place. And the inside is a complete mess. >> >> So, the OD was rebuilt about 50 miles ago by OD Spares and I?m happy with >> the wiring. My question is this?is there a frequent or a probable cause to >> these fry ups?? These things check out at about ?50:00 so I don?t want to >> be chucking them in at regular intervals. Anything in particular that I >> should look out for??? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josef-eckert at t-online.de Fri Mar 25 12:21:21 2022 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 19:21:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Healeys] Fried OD Solenoid In-Reply-To: References: <000901d84057$8c043cd0$a40cb670$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <1648232481753.4740180.133f578bc7772244f4606453d7f0253cec07ff7d@spica.telekom.de> When the 22 Amps are flowing permanently because the contact in the solenoid does not open to allow only the holding current to flow, which is around 2 Amps, the overdrive line cable to the solenoid gets extremely hot and melts!!! And can cause a massive cable burning. A friend was lucky to realise this early enough to stop the car to catch the fire estinguisher. I always put in a 10 Amps fuse in this line, which stands the 22 Amps for the 2 to 3 seconds it needs to engage the solenoid, but blows when the current doesn`t go back from 22 Amps to 2 Amps in short time. Just a recommendation. I even have it in my concours cars, unvisible for the judges! Josef Eckert GERMANY -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Fried OD Solenoid Datum: 2022-03-25T19:02:52+0100 Von: "john harper" An: "Michael Salter" Simon The overheating is likely to because the armature has not risen enough to break the contacts to the heavy pick coil. There is for a short while about 22 amps is flowing which heats up the heavy coil to the point where it fails or the heavy contacts burn out. When operating correctly only the hold current should be taken; perhaps 3 amps. The action is that the heavy coil is needed to raise armature until when it is at the top it breaks the heavy current. The hold coil is sufficient to do as it says and keeps the armature in place causing the overdrive to operate. A frequent cause of the ODs with an open frame and with a rubber bottom stop is that this rubber button rots with oil or falls out. With the armature lower than it should be with the button in place the pick current is insufficient to lift the armature with only part of it inside the coil. the coil will then keep taking current. On mine, I have drilled and tapped the hole in which the rubber stop was fitted to allow a bolt and nut to be fitted that can then be adjusted as is possible on the enclosed versions Best regards On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 15:13, Michael Salter > wrote: Bluntly Simon, the operating valve was NOT set up correctly. The "pull" coil was still being powered and drawing probably some 20 amps. New solenoid required and some careful setup. M On Fri., Mar. 25, 2022, 10:50 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net > wrote: Since we?re on the OD topic?. I took my MkII BT7 out the other day, first time for ages, 8 weeks+/-. Anyhow, the OD didn?t work. I?d been to a carpet trimmer and left my tunnel cover with him so access was easy?? The solenoid was very hot?too hot to touch which made me suspicious. Anyhow, I did my OD electrical click-test and it failed at the first hurdle. So, I took the solenoid out and?well, look at the picture. The plastic/nylon cover to the points and wiring was virtually welded in place. And the inside is a complete mess. So, the OD was rebuilt about 50 miles ago by OD Spares and I?m happy with the wiring. My question is this?is there a frequent or a probable cause to these fry ups?? These things check out at about ?50:00 so I don?t want to be chucking them in at regular intervals. Anything in particular that I should look out for??? Thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Mar 25 13:26:33 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 19:26:33 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] OD melt down Message-ID: <002601d8407e$3f8de370$bea9aa50$@alexarevel.plus.com> Thank you for the replies. I suppose that I should have made myself a little more clear. I know about the two coils and that if the bigger one stays on too long...frying time. Curiously, the fuse, which I have added, did not burn out. Anyhow, the point is.what makes the "pull" coil stay up and blow? 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Not easy, but doable and worth the effort. > > *"When you go from a 98 point car to a 100 point car, you double the cost > of the restoration."* > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 7:40 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I have been unsuccessful I my search for light green Hammertone or hammer >> finish paint for my BN2 airfilter housings. >> Does anyone know where this may be available or even have a can or part >> can that I can purchase? >> >> M >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Can you see where this project was going?? ? ? My friend told me the chassis wasn?t too good and, try as he might, using all of his engineering skills, he couldn?t get it straight. That, and a bit too much ?tin worm?, as DMH used to call it. ? So he picked up the phoned, spoke to Greg, and bought a new 100 chassis. ? I told you all that to tell you this: ? He said that Greg and John have found a new buyer for KAS and they will be staying on for a year to train the new staff in all aspects of the business. ? So, we can all now breathe a huge sigh of relief that I suspect may be heard around the entire Healey world. ? Keep it shiny side up, ? 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When operating correctly only the hold current should be taken; perhaps 3 amps. The action is that the heavy coil is needed to raise armature until when it is at the top it breaks the heavy current. The hold coil is sufficient to do as it says and keeps the armature in place causing the overdrive to operate. A frequent cause of the ODs with an open frame and with a rubber bottom stop is that this rubber button rots with oil or falls out. With the armature lower than it should be with the button in place the pick current is insufficient to lift the armature with only part of it inside the coil. the coil will then keep taking current. On mine, I have drilled and tapped the hole in which the rubber stop was fitted to allow a bolt and nut to be fitted that can then be adjusted as is possible on the enclosed versions Best regards On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 15:13, Michael Salter wrote: Bluntly Simon, the operating valve was NOT set up correctly. The "pull" coil was still being powered and drawing probably some 20 amps.New solenoid required and some careful setup. M On Fri., Mar. 25, 2022, 10:50 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, wrote: Since we?re on the OD topic?.I took my MkII BT7 out the other day, first time for ages, 8 weeks+/-.Anyhow, the OD didn?t work. I?d been to a carpet trimmer and left my tunnel cover with him so access was easy??The solenoid was very hot?too hot to touch which made me suspicious. Anyhow, I did my OD electrical click-test and it failed at the first hurdle. So, I took the solenoid out and?well, look at the picture.The plastic/nylon cover to the points and wiring was virtually welded in place. And the inside is a complete mess.So, the OD was rebuilt about 50 miles ago by OD Spares and I?m happy with the wiring. My question is this?is there a frequent or a probable cause to these fry ups?? These things check out at about ?50:00 so I don?t want to be chucking them in at regular intervals. 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URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Sat Mar 26 09:03:05 2022 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:03:05 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Hammertone green In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I too found that the Rustoleum Hammertone Verde Green is pretty close to the colour I have seen on the air cleaners. Having said that, I have been unable t locate a business having them in stock. It is not available in Canada and while Menard?s in the US claim to carry it, none of them have it in stock at the moment. I?d like to purchase a can and spray it on a paint card to compare to an original, although after sixty plus years under a hot bonnet, the paint has likely faded, changed or otherwise no longer exactly as the day it was painted. I will also do a paint card with the silver hammertone from Rustoleum and then when dry give it a very light coat of the engine green to see if the hammertone would show through, I am doubtful it will work but it?s worth a try. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows From: Alan Seigrist via Healeys Sent: March 25, 2022 11:39 PM To: Curtis Arndt Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hammertone green that looks like a pretty close match to the Rustoleum Verde Green Hammertone paint. On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 9:41 PM Curtis Arndt > wrote: Gentlemen, The correct hammertone green (that matched engine color) for the air cleaners from off the shelf sources DOES NOT EXIST! When Roger M. and I did our cars we took a green shade that was close and added pigment (white, black and yellow) to perfectly match the engine color. Not easy, but doable and worth the effort. "When you go from a 98 point car to a 100 point car, you double the cost of the restoration." Cheers, Curt On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 7:40 PM Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: I have been unsuccessful I my search for light green Hammertone or hammer finish paint for my BN2 airfilter housings. Does anyone know where this may be available or even have a can or part can that I can purchase? M _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sat Mar 26 11:37:47 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2022 17:37:47 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Hammertone green Message-ID: <7451413619c540ae6386db524c524b6aed8b0436@webmail> Attached photo supplied by John Wheatley when he was still with us. He was very concerned that the correct Burgess plate be affixed as well as the proper hammertone color. Prior 100 Air Cleaners were done in crakle finish black. Both of these paints are found available from Rustoleum. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Jean Caron via Healeys" To: "Alan Seigrist", "Curtis Arndt" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday March 26 2022 8:03:56AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hammertone green I too found that the Rustoleum Hammertone Verde Green is pretty close to the colour I have seen on the air cleaners. Having said that, I have been unable t locate a business having them in stock. It is not available in Canada and while Menard?s in the US claim to carry it, none of them have it in stock at the moment. I?d like to purchase a can and spray it on a paint card to compare to an original, although after sixty plus years under a hot bonnet, the paint has likely faded, changed or otherwise no longer exactly as the day it was painted. I will also do a paint card with the silver hammertone from Rustoleum and then when dry give it a very light coat of the engine green to see if the hammertone would show through, I am doubtful it will work but it?s worth a try. Jean Sent from Mail [1] for Windows FROM: Alan Seigrist via Healeys SENT: March 25, 2022 11:39 PM TO: Curtis Arndt CC: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Hammertone green that looks like a pretty close match to the Rustoleum Verde Green Hammertone paint. On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 9:41 PM Curtis Arndt wrote: Gentlemen, The correct hammertone green (that matched engine color) for the air cleaners from off the shelf sources DOES NOT EXIST! When Roger M. and I did our cars we took a green shade that was close and added pigment (white, black and yellow) to perfectly match the engine color. Not easy, but doable and worth the effort. _"WHEN YOU GO FROM A 98 POINT CAR TO A 100 POINT CAR, YOU DOUBLE THE COST OF THE RESTORATION."_ Cheers, Curt On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 7:40 PM Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: I have been unsuccessful I my search for light green Hammertone or hammer finish paint for my BN2 airfilter housings. Does anyone know where this may be available or even have a can or part can that I can purchase? 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Thank God for small victories. > Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Mar 27 08:24:39 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 07:24:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Windscreen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1aaf1cee-8782-a5e7-7b2e-f9eb4b0b6a44@comcast.net> Looks to be a spacer or shim. I don't recall putting any on our BN2, which was mostly complete when we got it, but it's been many years. BCS might be able to solve the puzzle. On 3/26/2022 3:45 PM, Michael MacLean via Healeys wrote: > Finally got the glass in and the moment of truth was this morning.? It > fits on the car perfectly!? Woohoo!? Thank God for small victories. > Mike MacLean > From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 08:27:55 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 10:27:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Windscreen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Absolutely correct John, however I'm now fairly confident that not all 100's had shims there... they were probably used, if required on a selective basis. M On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 6:45 AM john harper via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Michael > > Well done > > I suspect that you know this but be sure to add spacers between the > uprights and the body so to not put any pressure on the glass. > > On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 at 22:52, Michael MacLean via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Finally got the glass in and the moment of truth was this morning. It >> fits on the car perfectly! Woohoo! Thank God for small victories. >> Mike MacLean >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sentenac.rw at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 08:58:22 2022 From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 07:58:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Windscreen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: BN1 724 had several shims. I was the second owner to drive it and I know of no reason the first owner would have replaced the glass or removed the stansions. The shims were two kinds: long ones that went under all screws and short ones that didn't. They appeared to be hand made not stamped out. -Roland On Sun, Mar 27, 2022, 7:28 AM Michael Salter via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Absolutely correct John, however I'm now fairly confident that not all > 100's had shims there... they were probably used, if required on a > selective basis. > > M > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 6:45 AM john harper via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Michael >> >> Well done >> >> I suspect that you know this but be sure to add spacers between the >> uprights and the body so to not put any pressure on the glass. >> >> On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 at 22:52, Michael MacLean via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> Finally got the glass in and the moment of truth was this morning. It >>> fits on the car perfectly! Woohoo! Thank God for small victories. >>> Mike MacLean >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Mar 27 09:22:19 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 08:22:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] A Day In The Life Message-ID: <56671e52-d164-c22d-8d4c-db32da36925a@comcast.net> Got this in my Facebook feed this morning, so some of you have probably seen it, but passing it on. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DayInTheLife.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 168504 bytes Desc: not available URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 09:49:36 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 08:49:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] A Day In The Life In-Reply-To: <56671e52-d164-c22d-8d4c-db32da36925a@comcast.net> References: <56671e52-d164-c22d-8d4c-db32da36925a@comcast.net> Message-ID: Except for the Jumpstart, ticket and flat tire, it's a good story board of my trip to and from Conclave last year. Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Sun, Mar 27, 2022, 8:23 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > Got this in my Facebook feed this morning, so some of you have probably > seen it, but passing it on._______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sun Mar 27 10:50:12 2022 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:50:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] A Day In The Life In-Reply-To: <56671e52-d164-c22d-8d4c-db32da36925a@comcast.net> References: <56671e52-d164-c22d-8d4c-db32da36925a@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1ac1dabf-5fcf-1bd9-3ae3-fc01f7a0ede5@earthlink.net> Done by Steve Petrosky.? Don't see it on his website (http://www.driversroad.com). Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 3/27/22 11:22 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Got this in my Facebook feed this morning, so some of you have > probably seen it, but passing it on. > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sun Mar 27 10:51:12 2022 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 10:51:12 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. Message-ID: Car is in Albuquerque, NM.? Just had some fairly major refreshing done. Still a couple tiny niggling items to get it tip top. Mechanically excellent. Cosmetically nearly excellent. This is NOT my car, I'm offering it for the owner. Can also be seen on FB AH Enthusiast group page. Current sale price is $60,000.00 or above. Shipping costs thanks to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live near by. Yes, easily capable of cross Country distances, fuel prices notwithstanding.? Turn/park lights are corrected from as pictured. Happy Healeying DaveP? info below... -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_8351.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1892094 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_8350.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1359465 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Mar 27 13:24:15 2022 From: Tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 15:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1919771101.160229389.1648409055181.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> You had me till your political rant. ----- Original Message ----- From: David P via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: David Porter Sent: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:51:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. Car is in Albuquerque, NM.? Just had some fairly major refreshing done. Still a couple tiny niggling items to get it tip top. Mechanically excellent. Cosmetically nearly excellent. This is NOT my car, I'm offering it for the owner. Can also be seen on FB AH Enthusiast group page. Current sale price is $60,000.00 or above. Shipping costs thanks to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live near by. Yes, easily capable of cross Country distances, fuel prices notwithstanding.? Turn/park lights are corrected from as pictured. Happy Healeying DaveP? info below... -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ From phoenix722 at comcast.net Sun Mar 27 13:54:50 2022 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:54:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] A Day In The Life In-Reply-To: <56671e52-d164-c22d-8d4c-db32da36925a@comcast.net> References: <56671e52-d164-c22d-8d4c-db32da36925a@comcast.net> Message-ID: <09773f56-3987-0865-466f-6b99086d882f@comcast.net> Love it! On 3/27/2022 8:22 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Got this in my Facebook feed this morning, so some of you have > probably seen it, but passing it on. > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From llennep at verizon.net Sun Mar 27 14:30:25 2022 From: llennep at verizon.net (llennep at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. In-Reply-To: <1919771101.160229389.1648409055181.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1919771101.160229389.1648409055181.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: <844088621.806422.1648413025864@mail.yahoo.com> Me too. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Felts via Healeys To: David P Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 3:24 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. You had me till your political rant. ----- Original Message ----- From: David P via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: David Porter Sent: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:51:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. Car is in Albuquerque, NM.? Just had some fairly major refreshing done. Still a couple tiny niggling items to get it tip top. Mechanically excellent. Cosmetically nearly excellent. This is NOT my car, I'm offering it for the owner. Can also be seen on FB AH Enthusiast group page. Current sale price is $60,000.00 or above. Shipping costs thanks to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live near by. Yes, easily capable of cross Country distances, fuel prices notwithstanding.? Turn/park lights are corrected from as pictured. Happy Healeying DaveP? info below... -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jtkarowe at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 15:24:31 2022 From: jtkarowe at gmail.com (John and Kerry Rowe) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 07:24:31 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20220327.165329.9788.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> References: <20220327.165329.9788.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: As an outsider looking in from Down Under, all I can say is 'me too'! I might as well jump on that bandwagon too. John Rowe Queensland, Australia On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 6:56 AM dwflagg--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi Dave, > > "Shipping costs thanks > to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live nearby." > > You were expressing an opinion which, as far as I know, is still legal in > this country. Sometimes the truth hurts. I noticed > there weren't a lot of followers, except for the one "me too". I agree > totally with you. 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URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sun Mar 27 16:29:11 2022 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 09:29:11 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20220327.165329.9788.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> References: <20220327.165329.9788.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <006d01d8422a$17959bd0$46c0d370$@tpg.com.au> Hello Shipping costs are high within and going out of Australia as well and as I don't think that has anything to do with whoever is in power in the US. As an aside just over three years back postage and shipping from the US to Australia rose by over 100%. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dwflagg--- via Healeys Sent: Monday, 28 March 2022 7:53 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Hi Dave, "Shipping costs thanks to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live nearby." You were expressing an opinion which, as far as I know, is still legal in this country. Sometimes the truth hurts. I noticed there weren't a lot of followers, except for the one "me too". I agree totally with you. It has been downhill since the election. Just hope the VP never takes over. Regards, Doug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 16:34:03 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 18:34:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <20220327.165329.9788.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Why can't people get that we subscribe to this list to exchange thoughts about Healeys, not politics. There are plenty of places to go to find people to agree or not about politics. This is not one of them! Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 5:25 PM John and Kerry Rowe via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > As an outsider looking in from Down Under, all I can say is 'me too'! > I might as well jump on that bandwagon too. > John Rowe > Queensland, Australia > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 6:56 AM dwflagg--- via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Hi Dave, >> >> "Shipping costs thanks >> to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live nearby." >> >> You were expressing an opinion which, as far as I know, is still legal in >> this country. Sometimes the truth hurts. I noticed >> there weren't a lot of followers, except for the one "me too". I agree >> totally with you. It has been downhill since the election. >> Just hope the VP never takes over. >> >> Regards, >> Doug >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtkarowe at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I might as well jump on that bandwagon too. >> John Rowe >> Queensland, Australia >> >>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 6:56 AM dwflagg--- via Healeys wrote: >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> "Shipping costs thanks >>> to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live nearby." >>> >>> You were expressing an opinion which, as far as I know, is still legal in this country. Sometimes the truth hurts. I noticed >>> there weren't a lot of followers, except for the one "me too". I agree totally with you. It has been downhill since the election. >>> Just hope the VP never takes over. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Doug >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtkarowe at gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahmg at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dtwoerpel at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 17:19:54 2022 From: dtwoerpel at gmail.com (Dave and Terri Woerpel) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 18:19:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20220327.165329.9788.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> References: <20220327.165329.9788.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Not the time, not the place On Sun, Mar 27, 2022, 3:56 PM dwflagg--- via Healeys wrote: > Hi Dave, > > "Shipping costs thanks > to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live nearby." > > You were expressing an opinion which, as far as I know, is still legal in > this country. Sometimes the truth hurts. I noticed > there weren't a lot of followers, except for the one "me too". I agree > totally with you. It has been downhill since the election. > Just hope the VP never takes over. > > Regards, > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dtwoerpel at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Mar 27 18:02:53 2022 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg at juno.com) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 00:02:53 GMT Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Message-ID: <20220327.200253.15125.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Listers, I apologize. The comment was not meant to be sent to the list. I have over my many years on the list refrained fromdiscussing issues not related to Healeys and made an error in judgement. Doug Michael, I totally agree. I won’t read anything into those comments, but this is not the place. Ken Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2022, at 6:34 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys wrote: Why can't people get that we subscribe to this list to exchange thoughts about Healeys, not politics.There are plenty of places to go to find people to agree or not about politics. This is not one of them! Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 5:25 PM John and Kerry Rowe via Healeys wrote:As an outsider looking in from Down Under, all I can say is 'me too'! I might as well jump on that bandwagon too.John RoweQueensland, Australia On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 6:56 AM dwflagg--- via Healeys wrote:Hi Dave, "Shipping costs thanksto Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live nearby." You were expressing an opinion which, as far as I know, is still legal in this country. Sometimes the truth hurts. I noticedthere weren't a lot of followers, except for the one "me too". I agree totally with you. It has been downhill since the election. Just hope the VP never takes over. 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Where we are all friends over our love of a great vehicle -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Felts via Healeys Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 3:24 PM To: David P Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. You had me till your political rant. ----- Original Message ----- From: David P via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: David Porter Sent: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:51:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. Car is in Albuquerque, NM. Just had some fairly major refreshing done. Still a couple tiny niggling items to get it tip top. Mechanically excellent. Cosmetically nearly excellent. This is NOT my car, I'm offering it for the owner. Can also be seen on FB AH Enthusiast group page. Current sale price is $60,000.00 or above. Shipping costs thanks to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live near by. Yes, easily capable of cross Country distances, fuel prices notwithstanding. Turn/park lights are corrected from as pictured. Happy Healeying DaveP info below... -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tfsbj7 at gmail.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 22:03:16 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 12:03:16 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. In-Reply-To: <00e301d84250$18f42520$4adc6f60$@gmail.com> References: <1919771101.160229389.1648409055181.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> <00e301d84250$18f42520$4adc6f60$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Skip - You agree with Tom there should be no political rant, then you proceed to respond with a political rant AND ad hominem ... wrapped in a saccharin candy wrapper so I give you credit for that. It would have been better if you just responded to the political rant with your opinion and no qualifiers, at least it would be an honest response. And for what it's worth, shipping costs ARE through the roof... 5x normal in my case. It's not a normal situation so I would expect people to be upset about it and blame someone or something... so maybe it's fine either way how you feel what the cause is. I respect all opinions, provided they are honestly given. Cheers, Alan On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 11:02 AM Skip Saunders via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Tom, I Agree..... He just exposed his level of financial awareness as well > as his political assessment talent. Such a shame to make such a comment > on this forum. Where we are all friends over our love of a great vehicle > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 22:05:14 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 12:05:14 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] shipping costs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shipping costs from all the suppliers are nuts right now! On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 8:42 AM Richard Kahn via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > We can all agree on the shipping costs from Moss? No politics > involved.(hee,hee) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 22:07:38 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 12:07:38 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20220327.200253.15125.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> References: <20220327.200253.15125.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: David - It's okay as far as I am concerned, it was a comparatively harmless slip of the tongue (keyboard?). I appreciate at least that you do have an opinion and thanks for posting this apology, it's a nice gesture. Best, Alan On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 8:04 AM dwflagg--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Listers, > > I apologize. The comment was not meant to be sent to the list. I have over > my many years on the list refrained from > discussing issues not related to Healeys and made an error in judgement. > > Doug > > Michael, > I totally agree. I won?t read anything into those comments, but this is > not the place. > Ken > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 27, 2022, at 6:34 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Why can't people get that we subscribe to this list to exchange thoughts > about Healeys, not politics. > There are plenty of places to go to find people to agree or not about > politics. This is not one of them! > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 5:25 PM John and Kerry Rowe via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> As an outsider looking in from Down Under, all I can say is 'me too'! >> I might as well jump on that bandwagon too. >> John Rowe >> Queensland, Australia >> >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 6:56 AM dwflagg--- via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> "Shipping costs thanks >>> to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live nearby." >>> >>> You were expressing an opinion which, as far as I know, is still legal >>> in this country. Sometimes the truth hurts. I noticed >>> there weren't a lot of followers, except for the one "me too". I agree >>> totally with you. It has been downhill since the election. >>> Just hope the VP never takes over. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Doug >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtkarowe at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahmg at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.fawcett at cox.net Sun Mar 27 23:46:55 2022 From: m.fawcett at cox.net (Mark Fawcett) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 22:46:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. In-Reply-To: <844088621.806422.1648413025864@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1919771101.160229389.1648409055181.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> <844088621.806422.1648413025864@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ditto Mark Fawcett On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 1:31 PM llennep--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Me too. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Felts via Healeys > To: David P > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 3:24 pm > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. > > You had me till your political rant. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David P via Healeys > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: David Porter > Sent: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:51:12 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. > > Car is in Albuquerque, NM. Just had some fairly major refreshing done. > Still a couple tiny niggling items to get it tip top. Mechanically > excellent. Cosmetically nearly excellent. This is NOT my car, I'm > offering it for the owner. Can also be seen on FB AH Enthusiast group > page. Current sale price is $60,000.00 or above. Shipping costs thanks > to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live near by. Yes, > easily capable of cross Country distances, fuel prices notwithstanding. > Turn/park lights are corrected from as pictured. > > Happy Healeying > > DaveP info below... > > -- > Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My > World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.fawcett at cox.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at dleong.org Sun Mar 27 23:53:15 2022 From: david at dleong.org (David Leong) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 05:53:15 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. In-Reply-To: References: <1919771101.160229389.1648409055181.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> <844088621.806422.1648413025864@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9cd5b8c195324ff5a3bdd9f64af65caf@DLEONG-EXCH.dleong.pro> Me three Dave From: Healeys On Behalf Of Mark Fawcett Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 10:47 PM To: Keith Pennell Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; frogeye at porterscustom.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. ditto Mark Fawcett On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 1:31 PM llennep--- via Healeys > wrote: Me too. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Felts via Healeys > To: David P > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 3:24 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. You had me till your political rant. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frogeye at porterscustom.com Mon Mar 28 08:15:34 2022 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 08:15:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. In-Reply-To: <00e301d84250$18f42520$4adc6f60$@gmail.com> References: <1919771101.160229389.1648409055181.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> <00e301d84250$18f42520$4adc6f60$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <955c1c70-05d9-5393-a9b3-8da645af3a0b@porterscustom.com> OMHF...a? political rant???? A quick revue: Jan 2020 inflation was at 1.4%. It is now 7.5% or more. It's not because of 30 days of Putin's madness. The FACT is it belongs to the current administration, ie Joe Biden et al. I included the FACT because it is a much bigger part of purchasing a classic car. Some may twist the facts all they wish, but it doesn't change the reality.? And if you all really want a rant.... spare me the love of the cars and the purity of an email? list BS. Like this list, I offer a service to subscribers. The interpretation you make says it all. Dave P On 3/27/2022 9:01 PM, Skip Saunders wrote: > Tom, I Agree..... He just exposed his level of financial awareness as well as his political assessment talent. Such a shame to make such a comment on this forum. Where we are all friends over our love of a great vehicle > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Felts via Healeys > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 3:24 PM > To: David P > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. > > You had me till your political rant. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David P via Healeys > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: David Porter > Sent: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:51:12 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. > > Car is in Albuquerque, NM. Just had some fairly major refreshing done. > Still a couple tiny niggling items to get it tip top. Mechanically excellent. Cosmetically nearly excellent. This is NOT my car, I'm offering it for the owner. Can also be seen on FB AH Enthusiast group page. Current sale price is $60,000.00 or above. Shipping costs thanks to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live near by. Yes, easily capable of cross Country distances, fuel prices notwithstanding. Turn/park lights are corrected from as pictured. > > Happy Healeying > > DaveP info below... > > -- > Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tfsbj7 at gmail.com > > > -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ From warthodson at aol.com Mon Mar 28 08:35:39 2022 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 14:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. In-Reply-To: <1919771101.160229389.1648409055181.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1919771101.160229389.1648409055181.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: <384170889.758910.1648478139316@mail.yahoo.com> I agree, this is not the place for politics.Gary Hodson? -----Original Message----- From: Tom Felts via Healeys To: David P Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 2:24 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. You had me till your political rant. ----- Original Message ----- From: David P via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: David Porter Sent: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:51:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. Car is in Albuquerque, NM.? Just had some fairly major refreshing done. Still a couple tiny niggling items to get it tip top. Mechanically excellent. Cosmetically nearly excellent. This is NOT my car, I'm offering it for the owner. Can also be seen on FB AH Enthusiast group page. Current sale price is $60,000.00 or above. Shipping costs thanks to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live near by. Yes, easily capable of cross Country distances, fuel prices notwithstanding.? Turn/park lights are corrected from as pictured. Happy Healeying DaveP? info below... -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Mar 28 08:46:24 2022 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 10:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. In-Reply-To: <955c1c70-05d9-5393-a9b3-8da645af3a0b@porterscustom.com> References: <1919771101.160229389.1648409055181.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> <00e301d84250$18f42520$4adc6f60$@gmail.com> <955c1c70-05d9-5393-a9b3-8da645af3a0b@porterscustom.com> Message-ID: <1707003079.161044157.1648478784564.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> feel better now? While we are at it, lets use this forum to discuss every political issue out there today----will that work for you? Why not, according to you? For me, I'm not interested in your or anyone else's political leanings and certainly not when coming to a medium for discussing Healeys and problems we may need advice on about THEM. I rest. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: David P To: Skip Saunders , 'Tom Felts' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 10:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. OMHF...a? political rant???? A quick revue: Jan 2020 inflation was at 1.4%. It is now 7.5% or more. It's not because of 30 days of Putin's madness. The FACT is it belongs to the current administration, ie Joe Biden et al. I included the FACT because it is a much bigger part of purchasing a classic car. Some may twist the facts all they wish, but it doesn't change the reality.? And if you all really want a rant.... spare me the love of the cars and the purity of an email? list BS. Like this list, I offer a service to subscribers. The interpretation you make says it all. Dave P On 3/27/2022 9:01 PM, Skip Saunders wrote: > Tom, I Agree..... He just exposed his level of financial awareness as well as his political assessment talent. Such a shame to make such a comment on this forum. Where we are all friends over our love of a great vehicle > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Felts via Healeys > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 3:24 PM > To: David P > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. > > You had me till your political rant. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David P via Healeys > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: David Porter > Sent: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:51:12 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. > > Car is in Albuquerque, NM. Just had some fairly major refreshing done. > Still a couple tiny niggling items to get it tip top. Mechanically excellent. Cosmetically nearly excellent. This is NOT my car, I'm offering it for the owner. Can also be seen on FB AH Enthusiast group page. Current sale price is $60,000.00 or above. Shipping costs thanks to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live near by. Yes, easily capable of cross Country distances, fuel prices notwithstanding. Turn/park lights are corrected from as pictured. > > Happy Healeying > > DaveP info below... > > -- > Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tfsbj7 at gmail.com > > > -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ From javrugtman at htcnet.org Mon Mar 28 09:05:51 2022 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 11:05:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys without opinions Message-ID: I also have a Healey for sale and have political opinions, which I will keep to myself, thank you. Car is a 66, concours gold in 95 and driven and maintained since, as they should be. Question for the list:? what should I do with it? At 80 it's getting too much to have two.? And no I don't really want to donate it. John 64/66BJ8s From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 14:31:32 2022 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 13:31:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hammertone green In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alan, *"That looks like a pretty close match to the Rustoleum Verde Green Hammertone paint."* If memory serves me correctly, that's because Roger M. used Hammerite Green in a can versus the aerosol spray, and when I visited him, we tinted that base paint using white, black and yellow pigment to get a closer match to the Healey engine green. Once we did the test spraying, and were satisfied with the match, he painted my air cleaners as well as his. Cheers, Curt On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 9:38 PM Alan Seigrist wrote: > that looks like a pretty close match to the Rustoleum Verde Green > Hammertone paint. > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 9:41 PM Curtis Arndt wrote: > >> Gentlemen, >> >> The correct hammertone green (that matched engine color) for the air >> cleaners from off the shelf sources DOES NOT EXIST! >> >> When Roger M. and I did our cars we took a green shade that was close and >> added pigment (white, black and yellow) to perfectly match the engine >> color. Not easy, but doable and worth the effort. >> >> *"When you go from a 98 point car to a 100 point car, you double the cost >> of the restoration."* >> >> Cheers, >> >> Curt >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 3/28/2022 8:05 AM, John Vrugtman via Healeys wrote: > I also have a Healey for sale and have political opinions, which I > will keep to myself, thank you. > Car is a 66, concours gold in 95 and driven and maintained since, as > they should be. > > Question for the list:? what should I do with it? At 80 it's getting > too much to have two.? And no I don't really want to donate it. > > John > 64/66BJ8s > From ryan at jimryan.com Mon Mar 28 11:19:31 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 13:19:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. In-Reply-To: <1707003079.161044157.1648478784564.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1919771101.160229389.1648409055181.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> <00e301d84250$18f42520$4adc6f60$@gmail.com> <955c1c70-05d9-5393-a9b3-8da645af3a0b@porterscustom.com> <1707003079.161044157.1648478784564.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: I agree completely. If I had my way we would ban people from the list for bringing this crap up. Take it somewhere else. 'nuf said. On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:47 AM Tom Felts via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > feel better now? While we are at it, lets use this forum to discuss > every political issue out there today----will that work for you? Why not, > according to you? For me, I'm not interested in your or anyone else's > political leanings and certainly not when coming to a medium for discussing > Healeys and problems we may need advice on about THEM. > > I rest. > Tom > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David P > To: Skip Saunders , 'Tom Felts' > > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 10:15:34 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. > > OMHF...a political rant? A quick revue: Jan 2020 inflation was at > 1.4%. It is now 7.5% or more. It's not because of 30 days of Putin's > madness. The FACT is it belongs to the current administration, ie Joe > Biden et al. I included the FACT because it is a much bigger part of > purchasing a classic car. Some may twist the facts all they wish, but it > doesn't change the reality. And if you all really want a rant.... spare > me the love of the cars and the purity of an email list BS. Like this > list, I offer a service to subscribers. The interpretation you make says > it all. Dave P > > On 3/27/2022 9:01 PM, Skip Saunders wrote: > > Tom, I Agree..... He just exposed his level of financial awareness as > well as his political assessment talent. Such a shame to make such a > comment on this forum. Where we are all friends over our love of a great > vehicle > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom > Felts via Healeys > > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 3:24 PM > > To: David P > > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. > > > > You had me till your political rant. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: David P via Healeys > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Cc: David Porter > > Sent: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:51:12 -0400 (EDT) > > Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. > > > > Car is in Albuquerque, NM. Just had some fairly major refreshing done. > > Still a couple tiny niggling items to get it tip top. Mechanically > excellent. Cosmetically nearly excellent. This is NOT my car, I'm offering > it for the owner. Can also be seen on FB AH Enthusiast group page. Current > sale price is $60,000.00 or above. Shipping costs thanks to Biden's > inflation are stupidly high, hope you live near by. Yes, easily capable of > cross Country distances, fuel prices notwithstanding. Turn/park lights are > corrected from as pictured. > > > > Happy Healeying > > > > DaveP info below... > > > > -- > > Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My > World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tfsbj7 at gmail.com > > > > > > > -- > Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My > World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyray at yahoo.com Mon Mar 28 11:31:22 2022 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 17:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. In-Reply-To: References: <1919771101.160229389.1648409055181.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> <00e301d84250$18f42520$4adc6f60$@gmail.com> <955c1c70-05d9-5393-a9b3-8da645af3a0b@porterscustom.com> <1707003079.161044157.1648478784564.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: <1612603538.1099486.1648488682826@mail.yahoo.com> I want to be sure all you guys know that I have strongly held political beliefs and an Austin Healey.... On Monday, March 28, 2022, 10:20:31 AM PDT, Jim Ryan via Healeys wrote: I agree completely.? If I had my way we would ban people from the list for bringing this crap up.? Take it somewhere else.??'nuf said. On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:47 AM Tom Felts via Healeys wrote: feel better now?? ?While we are at it, lets use this forum to discuss every political issue out there today----will that work for you?? Why not, according to you?? For me, I'm not interested in your or anyone else's political leanings and certainly not when coming to a medium for discussing Healeys and problems we may need advice on about THEM. I rest. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: David P To: Skip Saunders , 'Tom Felts' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 10:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. OMHF...a? political rant???? A quick revue: Jan 2020 inflation was at 1.4%. It is now 7.5% or more. It's not because of 30 days of Putin's madness. The FACT is it belongs to the current administration, ie Joe Biden et al. I included the FACT because it is a much bigger part of purchasing a classic car. Some may twist the facts all they wish, but it doesn't change the reality.? And if you all really want a rant.... spare me the love of the cars and the purity of an email? list BS. Like this list, I offer a service to subscribers. The interpretation you make says it all. Dave P On 3/27/2022 9:01 PM, Skip Saunders wrote: > Tom, I Agree..... He just exposed his level of financial awareness as well as his political assessment talent.? ?Such a shame to make such a comment on this forum. Where we are all friends over our love of a great vehicle > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Felts via Healeys > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 3:24 PM > To: David P > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. > > You had me till your political rant. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David P via Healeys > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: David Porter > Sent: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:51:12 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: [Healeys] 1967 BJ8 For sale. > > Car is in Albuquerque, NM.? Just had some fairly major refreshing done. > Still a couple tiny niggling items to get it tip top. Mechanically excellent. Cosmetically nearly excellent. This is NOT my car, I'm offering it for the owner. Can also be seen on FB AH Enthusiast group page. Current sale price is $60,000.00 or above. Shipping costs thanks to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live near by. Yes, easily capable of cross Country distances, fuel prices notwithstanding. Turn/park lights are corrected from as pictured. > > Happy Healeying > > DaveP? info below... > > -- > Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tfsbj7 at gmail.com > > > -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -- Jim Ryan ???? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Mon Mar 28 11:34:56 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 17:34:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys without opinions Message-ID: <7ce8359cb77da368d447703d38b72bb823fcb648@webmail> >From Hank- Car sounds like a beauty. A guy that advertises in our A-H mag. offers his services to those "over-the-hill" owners (like myself-79 next month). He is located in the Midwest, but will broker anywhere. Says he does a lot of estate sales. Sure he takes $$ but he may find a good home for your pet. Here is his contact info-couldn't hurt to see what he can offer: Tycta, Inc. Joe Bortz 1-847-668-2004 TYCTAinc at gmail.com. PO Box 280, Highland Park IL. 60035 -----------------------------------------From: "John Vrugtman via Healeys" To: "Austin Healey" Cc: Sent: Monday March 28 2022 8:07:03AM Subject: [Healeys] Healeys without opinions I also have a Healey for sale and have political opinions, which I will keep to myself, thank you. Car is a 66, concours gold in 95 and driven and maintained since, as they should be. Question for the list: what should I do with it? At 80 it's getting too much to have two. And no I don't really want to donate it. John 64/66BJ8s _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html /> Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [1] http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys /> Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys /> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gradea1 at charter.net /> Links: ------ [1] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From airtightproductions at me.com Mon Mar 28 12:41:11 2022 From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 18:41:11 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys without opinions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There are many options for sure. Bring a Trailer (BAT) seems to be a big seller nowadays, but if you're not into taking 100's of pictures and writing up a nice report of the background of your car, I would contact Joe Bortz also.Yes, he's going to get some dollars, but I've talked with him for an extended time and he seems like a pretty straight shooter. I have no financial interest, I just think it might be a good first step.?Tycta, Inc. Joe Bortz 1-847-668-2004?TYCTAinc at gmail.com.Also, Hagerty did a nice piece not too long ago about putting your cat for sale on BaT. Very informative and straight forward.?Good luck with whatever your decision ends up being. And of course you can always advertise your car in either of the magazines put out by both of the US Austin Healey clubs. If you're interested in advertising your car in the Austin Healey Club USA magazine, I can help with that. Again, no financial interest, just contact me and we'll take it from there.Steven KingsburyBN1On Mar 28, 2022, at 8:07 AM, John Vrugtman via Healeys wrote:I also have a Healey for sale and have political opinions, which I will keep to myself, thank you.Car is a 66, concours gold in 95 and driven and maintained since, as they should be.Question for the list:? what should I do with it? At 80 it's getting too much to have two.? And no I don't really want to donate it.John64/66BJ8s_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Mar 28 13:50:14 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 19:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Healeys without opinions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <210846214.654570.1648497014687@mail.yahoo.com> JohnI have sold a few cars over the years but I'm not a dealer.? Have found the best for me was to advertise locally first.? The local Craigslist is a starting point.? Let your local car clubs know that the car is available, and it doesn't have to be a British only club. The reason I suggest local first is seems to be easier to work out the details, title transfers, shipping, and most importantly they can travel to see the car.?? Next set a price and stick to it.? Everyone will try to knock another $500 off the sale price. Do not use the term "asking" in the advert.? Always request that the potential buyer, who has traveled to look at the car and is telling you that your price is too high, for a firm offer for your consideration before he/she walks out of the garage. Make sure you have their contact info, to get back to them.? Write it down along with their offer price on a piece of paper in their presence and show it to them to make sure it is accurate.??If that does not work and after you think you have waited long enough without success (that varies greatly) expand your area. Don't get to upset when the tire kickers show up or potential byers cancel their appointment with you. You are presenting your car to a small group of potential byers compared to many other makes and models.? As with many things, the motivation factor, as in lack of motivation, will show up along this path. We have had the red car for 57 years and we are not much younger than you.? I sometimes ponder what will become of it when that inevitable time comes.? My wife keeps saying she gets to go first so that she does not have to clean up the mess..... All the best to you?Perry -----Original Message----- From: John Vrugtman via Healeys To: Austin Healey Sent: Mon, Mar 28, 2022 11:05 am Subject: [Healeys] Healeys without opinions Question for the list:? what should I do with it? At 80 it's getting too much to have two.? And no I don't really want to donate it. John 64/66BJ8s -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Mon Mar 28 14:59:56 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 20:59:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys without opinions Message-ID: <779c0b0533169a627a4317dbdab2b6a536ad5040@webmail> Double "right on" Perry! Hank -----------------------------------------From: "healeyguy--- via Healeys" To: "javrugtman at htcnet.org" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Monday March 28 2022 12:52:41PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys without opinions John I have sold a few cars over the years but I'm not a dealer. Have found the best for me was to advertise locally first. The local Craigslist is a starting point. Let your local car clubs know that the car is available, and it doesn't have to be a British only club. The reason I suggest local first is seems to be easier to work out the details, title transfers, shipping, and most importantly they can travel to see the car. Next set a price and stick to it. Everyone will try to knock another $500 off the sale price. Do not use the term "asking" in the advert. Always request that the potential buyer, who has traveled to look at the car and is telling you that your price is too high, for a firm offer for your consideration before he/she walks out of the garage. Make sure you have their contact info, to get back to them. Write it down along with their offer price on a piece of paper in their presence and show it to them to make sure it is accurate. I f that does not work and after you think you have waited long enough without success (that varies greatly) expand your area. Don't get to upset when the tire kickers show up or potential byers cancel their appointment with you. You are presenting your car to a small group of potential byers compared to many other makes and models. As with many things, the motivation factor, as in lack of motivation, will show up along this path. We have had the red car for 57 years and we are not much younger than you. I sometimes ponder what will become of it when that inevitable time comes. My wife keeps saying she gets to go first so that she does not have to clean up the mess..... All the best to you Perry -----Original Message----- From: John Vrugtman via Healeys To: Austin Healey Sent: Mon, Mar 28, 2022 11:05 am Subject: [Healeys] Healeys without opinions Question for the list: what should I do with it? At 80 it's getting too much to have two. And no I don't really want to donate it. John 64/66BJ8s -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Mar 28 17:13:07 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 16:13:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys without opinions In-Reply-To: <210846214.654570.1648497014687@mail.yahoo.com> References: <210846214.654570.1648497014687@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <35f8d9b3-e84a-59cf-6086-009b890ea197@comcast.net> "Have found the best for me was to advertise locally first." Not a bad plan; you never know what can happen. After working on and driving my BJ8 Dad decided he didn't dislike 'foreign' cars after all, and he kept an eye on the local classifieds. He eventually spotted a '56 Healey FS in a nearby valley town. He went to 'have a look' the next day, and bought the car. The seller and my dad hit it off and, without haggling seller--his name was Jess--knocked $2K off asking when Dad told him it was his son that was the real Healey fan. Jess, who was a wealthy construction contractor had one of his crew flatbed the car to Dad's house. Dad and Jess became good friends and I was looking forward to meeting him at our 'Fire Engine First Start' party, but he was too ill to attend and died a few months later. Jess also had a Nash-Healey he wanted, IIRC, $30K for but Dad didn't like the Nash 'headlights in the grill look.' I sometimes wish we'd bought it and put it in the barn with a tarp on it as an investment. Jess also had an Ercoupe airplane hanging from the rafters of his 'barn' (I wouldn't mind owning that, too, but I don't know what I'd do with my feet). On 3/28/2022 12:50 PM, healeyguy--- via Healeys wrote: > John > I have sold a few cars over the years but I'm not a dealer.? Have > found the best for me was to advertise locally first.? The local > Craigslist is a starting point.? Let your local car clubs know that > the car is available, and it doesn't have to be a British only club. > The reason I suggest local first is seems to be easier to work out the > details, title transfers, shipping, and most importantly they can > travel to see the car. > > Next set a price and stick to it.? Everyone will try to knock another > $500 off the sale price. Do not use the term "asking" in the advert. > > Always request that the potential buyer, who has traveled to look at > the car and is telling you that your price is too high, for a firm > offer for your consideration before he/she walks out of the garage. > Make sure you have their contact info, to get back to them.? Write it > down along with their offer price on a piece of paper in their > presence and show it to them to make sure it is accurate. > I > f that does not work and after you think you have waited long enough > without success (that varies greatly) expand your area. Don't get to > upset when the tire kickers show up or potential byers cancel their > appointment with you. You are presenting your car to a small group of > potential byers compared to many other makes and models. > > As with many things, the motivation factor, as in lack of motivation, > will show up along this path. We have had the red car for 57 years and > we are not much younger than you.? I sometimes ponder what will become > of it when that inevitable time comes.? My wife keeps saying she gets > to go first so that she does not have to clean up the mess..... > > All the best to you > Perry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Vrugtman via Healeys > To: Austin Healey > Sent: Mon, Mar 28, 2022 11:05 am > Subject: [Healeys] Healeys without opinions > > Question for the list:? what should I do with it? At 80 it's getting too > much to have two.? And no I don't really want to donate it. > John > 64/66BJ8s > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sure he takes $$ but he may find a good home for your pet. Here is his contact info-couldn't hurt to see what he can offer: Tycta, Inc. Joe Bortz 1-847-668-2004 TYCTAinc at gmail.com . PO Box 280, Highland Park IL. 60035 ----------------------------------------- From: "John Vrugtman via Healeys" To: "Austin Healey" Cc: Sent: Monday March 28 2022 8:07:03AM Subject: [Healeys] Healeys without opinions I also have a Healey for sale and have political opinions, which I will keep to myself, thank you. Car is a 66, concours gold in 95 and driven and maintained since, as they should be. Question for the list: what should I do with it? At 80 it's getting too much to have two. And no I don't really want to donate it. John 64/66BJ8s _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Getting the "wrinkles" out near the ends is solved by stretching the ends out about 3/4" each side. M On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 1:33 a.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Tell me if my thinking is correct. Look at the drawing in the picture. > The arrow is my guess on how the profile faces the front of the car. I've > guessed wrong before. > Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From warthodson at aol.com Tue Mar 29 09:25:57 2022 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 15:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1681192693.1113699.1648567557786@mail.yahoo.com> I can give you a partial answer. The bypass port should be open when the engine coolant is cold & closed when it is hot. The idea is that when the coolant is cool it warms up faster if some of it bypasses the radiator & is returned directly to the head to get heated up. When the coolant is hot all the coolant should go to the radiator, so the bypass is blocked. Racing cars sometimes remote the T'stat & insert a blank off sleeve. Removing the T'stat improves flow by removing any restriction to the flow & the blanking sleeve assures that no coolant can bypass the radiator.Gary Hodson?? -----Original Message----- From: Alan Seigrist To: Healey list Sent: Tue, Mar 29, 2022 9:46 am Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl I don't know if this has ever been answered before, but where does the little bypass port begin?? ? What parts of the head does that bypass come in contact with?? When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when coolant is hot or cold?) I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will cover the bypass port when the thermostat opens then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve actually cover the bypass when it is cold, and doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... so it works exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. confused.... Cheers, Alan_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 09:44:20 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 11:44:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to figure out, the bypass passage is open when the engine is cold, the idea being that by "short circuiting" the radiator the coolant in the heater and bypass passage will warm up more quickly and the heater will produce heat more quickly. We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats that I bought when Smiths Canada closed down. The part number was 43570/28 and we used to sell them to customers who reported overheating problems. I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to overheating issues after being taken to task by a customer who did an extensive study of the issue and proved, at least to my satisfaction, that they improved cooling not one iota. M On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, wrote: > I don't know if this has ever been answered before, but where does the > little bypass port begin? > > What parts of the head does that bypass come in contact with? > > When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when coolant is hot or > cold?) > > I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will cover the bypass port > when the thermostat opens > > then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve actually cover the > bypass when it is cold, and doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... > so it works exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. > > confused.... > > Cheers, > > Alan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eps2660 at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 09:57:05 2022 From: eps2660 at gmail.com (Elton S) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 11:57:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As a related question, what is the direction of flow through the radiator - up from the bottom or down from the top? Elton BJ7 On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter wrote: > As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to figure out, the bypass > passage is open when the engine is cold, the idea being that by "short > circuiting" the radiator the coolant in the heater and bypass passage will > warm up more quickly and the heater will produce heat more quickly. > We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats that I bought when > Smiths Canada closed down. The part number was 43570/28 and we used to sell > them to customers who reported overheating problems. > I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to overheating issues > after being taken to task by a customer who did an extensive study of the > issue and proved, at least to my satisfaction, that they improved cooling > not one iota. > > M > > On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, > wrote: > >> I don't know if this has ever been answered before, but where does the >> little bypass port begin? >> >> What parts of the head does that bypass come in contact with? >> >> When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when coolant is hot or >> cold?) >> >> I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will cover the bypass port >> when the thermostat opens >> >> then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve actually cover the >> bypass when it is cold, and doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... >> so it works exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. >> >> confused.... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alan >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 10:16:36 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:16:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The coolant travels from the bottom of the radiator to the water pump into the block then from the block into the head then through the thermostat to the top of the radiator. M On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 11:57 a.m. Elton S, wrote: > As a related question, what is the direction of flow through the radiator > - up from the bottom or down from the top? > Elton > BJ7 > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter > wrote: > >> As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to figure out, the bypass >> passage is open when the engine is cold, the idea being that by "short >> circuiting" the radiator the coolant in the heater and bypass passage will >> warm up more quickly and the heater will produce heat more quickly. >> We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats that I bought when >> Smiths Canada closed down. The part number was 43570/28 and we used to sell >> them to customers who reported overheating problems. >> I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to overheating issues >> after being taken to task by a customer who did an extensive study of the >> issue and proved, at least to my satisfaction, that they improved cooling >> not one iota. >> >> M >> >> On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, >> wrote: >> >>> I don't know if this has ever been answered before, but where does the >>> little bypass port begin? >>> >>> What parts of the head does that bypass come in contact with? >>> >>> When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when coolant is hot or >>> cold?) >>> >>> I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will cover the bypass >>> port when the thermostat opens >>> >>> then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve actually cover the >>> bypass when it is cold, and doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... >>> so it works exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. >>> >>> confused.... >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Alan >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Tue Mar 29 11:19:35 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:19:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0977.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3107588 bytes Desc: not available URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 19:35:56 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 09:35:56 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Harold - Thank you, now I understand how the whole thing is supposed to work. The sleeve works to cut off the bypass so that hot water is not recycled into the system after it warms up. FWIW, this only applies to the 6 cyl, the 4 cyl doesn't have any sort of bypass. Yes, I think it would be great if you could share with us which thermostat to purchase and how to modify it. Best, Alan On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:28 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > The coolant bypass plays an important but problematic role in the Healey?s > cooling system. When the thermostat is closed coolant returns to the water > pump via the bypass. See the red circle on the attached picture. The bypass > is important for three reasons: its allows the coolant in the block to > continue to circulate and come to a uniform temperature before the > thermostat opens, it prevents hot spots that could develop from stagnant > coolant and it prevents the water pump from dead heading. > > > > The problematic part is in the original design the bypass was closed by a > sleeve on the bellows type thermostat when the thermostat opened. The > original Bellows type thermostat used a volatile liquid and were not > reliable and were not suitable for the 7 psi cooling system pressure. Wax > type thermostats are much more reliable but they do not have a sleeve to > close off the bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas of the > original bellows type. > > > > After looking at many options the best option for a reasonably priced wax > type thermostat with a sleeve to close off the bay pass is the modified > Land Rover Series ll thermostat. If anyone would like to know about > modifying the Landver thermostat let me know. It can be easily done. > > > > Harold > > > > *From: *Michael Salter via Healeys > *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:17 AM > *To: *Healey list > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl > > > > The coolant travels from the bottom of the radiator to the water pump into > the block then from the block into the head then through the thermostat to > the top of the radiator. > > > > M > > > > On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 11:57 a.m. Elton S, wrote: > > As a related question, what is the direction of flow through the radiator > - up from the bottom or down from the top? > > Elton > > BJ7 > > > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter > wrote: > > As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to figure out, the bypass > passage is open when the engine is cold, the idea being that by "short > circuiting" the radiator the coolant in the heater and bypass passage will > warm up more quickly and the heater will produce heat more quickly. > > We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats that I bought when > Smiths Canada closed down. The part number was 43570/28 and we used to sell > them to customers who reported overheating problems. > > I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to overheating issues > after being taken to task by a customer who did an extensive study of the > issue and proved, at least to my satisfaction, that they improved cooling > not one iota. > > > > M > > > > On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, > wrote: > > I don't know if this has ever been answered before, but where does the > little bypass port begin? > > > > What parts of the head does that bypass come in contact with? > > When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when coolant is hot or > cold?) > > > > I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will cover the bypass port > when the thermostat opens > > then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve actually cover the > bypass when it is cold, and doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... > so it works exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. > > > > confused.... > > Cheers, > > > > Alan > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Mar 29 19:49:13 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 18:49:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Years ago, someone--might have been BCS, but I'm not sure--was selling a Robertshaw thermostat with a brass sleeve soldered to it (Robertshaw thermostats have a center portion that moves up and down). The one I bought was 160deg; I desoldered the sleeve and soldered it to a 180deg Robertshaw. I bought one of the original, bellows-type from Kees--whatever happened to him?--but never installed it; heard they were the 'fail closed' type, which could turn a minor failure into a catastrophe (still have it around somewhere). https://flowkoolerwaterpumps.com/products/robertshaw-330-160-degree-thermostat On 3/29/2022 6:35 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > Harold - > > Thank you, now I understand how the whole thing is supposed to work.? > The sleeve works to cut off the bypass so that hot water is not > recycled into the system after it warms up. FWIW, this only applies to > the 6 cyl, the 4 cyl doesn't have any sort of bypass. > > Yes, I think it would be great if you could share with us which > thermostat to purchase and how to modify it. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:28 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys > wrote: > > The coolant bypass plays an important but problematic role in the > Healey?s cooling system. When the thermostat is closed coolant > returns to the water pump via the bypass. See the red circle on > the attached picture. The bypass is important for three reasons: > its allows the coolant in the block to continue to circulate and > come to a uniform temperature before the thermostat opens, it > prevents hot spots that could develop from stagnant coolant and it > prevents the water pump from dead heading. > > The problematic part is in the original design the bypass was > closed by a sleeve on the bellows type thermostat when the > thermostat opened. The original Bellows type thermostat used a > volatile liquid and were not reliable and were not suitable for > the 7 psi cooling system pressure. Wax type thermostats are much > more reliable but they do not have a sleeve to close off the > bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas of the > original bellows type. > > After looking at many options the best option for a reasonably > priced wax type thermostat with a sleeve to close off the bay pass > is the modified Land Rover Series ll thermostat. If anyone would > like to know about modifying the Landver thermostat let me know. > It can be easily done. > > Harold > > *From: *Michael Salter via Healeys > *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:17 AM > *To: *Healey list > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl > > The coolant travels from the bottom of the radiator to the water > pump into the block then from the block into the head then through > the thermostat to the top of the radiator. > > M > > On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 11:57 a.m. Elton S, wrote: > > As a related question, what is the direction of flow through > the radiator - up from the bottom or down from the top? > > Elton > > BJ7 > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter > wrote: > > As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to figure > out, the bypass passage is open when the engine is cold, > the idea being that by "short circuiting" the radiator the > coolant in the heater and bypass passage will warm up more > quickly and the heater will produce heat more quickly. > > We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats that I > bought when Smiths Canada closed down. The part number was > 43570/28 and we used to sell them to customers who > reported overheating problems. > > I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to > overheating issues after being taken to task by a customer > who did an extensive study of the issue and proved, at > least to my satisfaction,? that they improved cooling not > one iota. > > M > > On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, > wrote: > > I don't know if this has ever been answered before, > but where does the little bypass port begin? > > What parts of the head does that bypass come in > contact with? > > When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when > coolant is hot or cold?) > > I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will > cover the bypass port when the thermostat opens > > then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve > actually cover the bypass when it is cold, and doesn't > cover it when the thermostat opens.... so it works > exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. > > confused.... > > Cheers, > > Alan > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 20:00:22 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 10:00:22 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bob - the Robertshaw thermostats are nicely made, but they open the wrong way around... let me do some measurements as I am dealing with the cooling on my BJ8 now. I have a robert shaw... as well as another sleeved thermostat as well as the bellows. Best, Alan On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 9:54 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > Years ago, someone--might have been BCS, but I'm not sure--was selling a > Robertshaw thermostat with a brass sleeve soldered to it (Robertshaw > thermostats have a center portion that moves up and down). The one I bought > was 160deg; I desoldered the sleeve and soldered it to a 180deg Robertshaw. > I bought one of the original, bellows-type from Kees--whatever happened to > him?--but never installed it; heard they were the 'fail closed' type, which > could turn a minor failure into a catastrophe (still have it around > somewhere). > > > https://flowkoolerwaterpumps.com/products/robertshaw-330-160-degree-thermostat > > > On 3/29/2022 6:35 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > > Harold - > > Thank you, now I understand how the whole thing is supposed to work. The > sleeve works to cut off the bypass so that hot water is not recycled into > the system after it warms up. FWIW, this only applies to the 6 cyl, the 4 > cyl doesn't have any sort of bypass. > > Yes, I think it would be great if you could share with us which thermostat > to purchase and how to modify it. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:28 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> The coolant bypass plays an important but problematic role in the >> Healey?s cooling system. When the thermostat is closed coolant returns to >> the water pump via the bypass. See the red circle on the attached picture. >> The bypass is important for three reasons: its allows the coolant in the >> block to continue to circulate and come to a uniform temperature before the >> thermostat opens, it prevents hot spots that could develop from stagnant >> coolant and it prevents the water pump from dead heading. >> >> >> >> The problematic part is in the original design the bypass was closed by a >> sleeve on the bellows type thermostat when the thermostat opened. The >> original Bellows type thermostat used a volatile liquid and were not >> reliable and were not suitable for the 7 psi cooling system pressure. Wax >> type thermostats are much more reliable but they do not have a sleeve to >> close off the bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas of the >> original bellows type. >> >> >> >> After looking at many options the best option for a reasonably priced wax >> type thermostat with a sleeve to close off the bay pass is the modified >> Land Rover Series ll thermostat. If anyone would like to know about >> modifying the Landver thermostat let me know. It can be easily done. >> >> >> >> Harold >> >> >> >> *From: *Michael Salter via Healeys >> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:17 AM >> *To: *Healey list >> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl >> >> >> >> The coolant travels from the bottom of the radiator to the water pump >> into the block then from the block into the head then through the >> thermostat to the top of the radiator. >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 11:57 a.m. Elton S, wrote: >> >> As a related question, what is the direction of flow through the radiator >> - up from the bottom or down from the top? >> >> Elton >> >> BJ7 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter >> wrote: >> >> As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to figure out, the bypass >> passage is open when the engine is cold, the idea being that by "short >> circuiting" the radiator the coolant in the heater and bypass passage will >> warm up more quickly and the heater will produce heat more quickly. >> >> We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats that I bought when >> Smiths Canada closed down. The part number was 43570/28 and we used to sell >> them to customers who reported overheating problems. >> >> I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to overheating issues >> after being taken to task by a customer who did an extensive study of the >> issue and proved, at least to my satisfaction, that they improved cooling >> not one iota. >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, >> wrote: >> >> I don't know if this has ever been answered before, but where does the >> little bypass port begin? >> >> >> >> What parts of the head does that bypass come in contact with? >> >> When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when coolant is hot or >> cold?) >> >> >> >> I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will cover the bypass port >> when the thermostat opens >> >> then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve actually cover the >> bypass when it is cold, and doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... >> so it works exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. >> >> >> >> confused.... >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Alan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Mar 29 20:09:36 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:09:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's been years, and my memory is (always) suspect, but I believe I put a RS in a pan of boiling water (with a frog, of course). The conical top of the RS goes up in the thermostat housing, so I think the moving part can only go down. IIRC, the sleeve only moved a quarter-inch or so and I thought at the time it would only cover maybe half of the bypass port. I mostly came to the conclusion Michael did: Covering the port or not makes no measurable difference; it's certainly not a cure for overheating Healeys. On another note; I drained my BJ8 to install another heater valve and block valve and, when filling noticed some crud blocking a couple tubes. It was hard to extract, but when I did it appeared to be solder that had come off from somewher (by the shape probably from around a tube). Rad's not leaking, but I'm not a happy camper; this was an 'uprated' core installed less than 6 or 7 years ago. On 3/29/2022 7:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Hi Bob - > > the Robertshaw thermostats are nicely made, but they open the wrong > way around... let me do some measurements as I am dealing with the > cooling on my BJ8 now.? I have a robert shaw... as well as another > sleeved thermostat as well as the bellows. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 9:54 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > > Years ago, someone--might have been BCS, but I'm not sure--was > selling a Robertshaw thermostat with a brass sleeve soldered to it > (Robertshaw thermostats have a center portion that moves up and > down). The one I bought was 160deg; I desoldered the sleeve and > soldered it to a 180deg Robertshaw. I bought one of the original, > bellows-type from Kees--whatever happened to him?--but never > installed it; heard they were the 'fail closed' type, which could > turn a minor failure into a catastrophe (still have it around > somewhere). > > https://flowkoolerwaterpumps.com/products/robertshaw-330-160-degree-thermostat > > > On 3/29/2022 6:35 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: >> Harold - >> >> Thank you, now I understand how the whole thing is supposed to >> work.? The sleeve works to cut off the bypass so that hot water >> is not recycled into the system after it warms up.? FWIW, this >> only applies to the 6 cyl, the 4 cyl doesn't have any sort of bypass. >> >> Yes, I think it would be great if you could share with us which >> thermostat to purchase and how to modify it. >> >> Best, >> >> Alan >> >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:28 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys >> wrote: >> >> The coolant bypass plays an important but problematic role in >> the Healey?s cooling system. When the thermostat is closed >> coolant returns to the water pump via the bypass. See the red >> circle on the attached picture. The bypass is important for >> three reasons: its allows the coolant in the block to >> continue to circulate and come to a uniform temperature >> before the thermostat opens, it prevents hot spots that could >> develop from stagnant coolant and it prevents the water pump >> from dead heading. >> >> The problematic part is in the original design the bypass was >> closed by a sleeve on the bellows type thermostat when the >> thermostat opened. The original Bellows type thermostat used >> a volatile liquid and were not reliable and were not suitable >> for the 7 psi cooling system pressure. Wax type thermostats >> are much more reliable but they do not have a sleeve to close >> off the bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas >> of the original bellows type. >> >> After looking at many options the best option for a >> reasonably priced wax type thermostat with a sleeve to close >> off the bay pass is the modified Land Rover Series ll >> thermostat. If anyone would like to know about modifying the >> Landver thermostat let me know. It can be easily done. >> >> Harold >> >> *From: *Michael Salter via Healeys >> >> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:17 AM >> *To: *Healey list >> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl >> >> The coolant travels from the bottom of the radiator to the >> water pump into the block then from the block into the head >> then through the thermostat to the top of the radiator. >> >> M >> >> On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 11:57 a.m. Elton S, >> wrote: >> >> As a related question, what is the direction of flow >> through the radiator - up from the bottom or down from >> the top? >> >> Elton >> >> BJ7 >> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter >> wrote: >> >> As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to >> figure out, the bypass passage is open when the >> engine is cold, the idea being that by "short >> circuiting" the radiator the coolant in the heater >> and bypass passage will warm up more quickly and the >> heater will produce heat more quickly. >> >> We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats >> that I bought when Smiths Canada closed down. The >> part number was 43570/28 and we used to sell them to >> customers who reported overheating problems. >> >> I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to >> overheating issues after being taken to task by a >> customer who did an extensive study of the issue and >> proved, at least to my satisfaction,? that they >> improved cooling not one iota. >> >> M >> >> On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, >> wrote: >> >> I don't know if this has ever been answered >> before, but where does the little bypass port begin? >> >> What parts of the head does that bypass come in >> contact with? >> >> When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve >> (when coolant is hot or cold?) >> >> I ask because the old bellows style thermostat >> will cover the bypass port when the thermostat opens >> >> then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve >> actually cover the bypass when it is cold, and >> doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... so >> it works exact opposite to the old bellows style >> thermostat. >> >> confused.... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 20:42:50 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 10:42:50 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob - One thing it might be is stop leak. Stop leak can plug up a system if there's air in there somewhere, and stop leak will form clumps if you don't drive the car every day. Using stop leak is fine, but you have to flush the system out thoroughly after the stop leak has plugged the holes in your system. Best, Alan On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:10 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > It's been years, and my memory is (always) suspect, but I believe I put a > RS in a pan of boiling water (with a frog, of course). The conical top of > the RS goes up in the thermostat housing, so I think the moving part can > only go down. IIRC, the sleeve only moved a quarter-inch or so and I > thought at the time it would only cover maybe half of the bypass port. > > I mostly came to the conclusion Michael did: Covering the port or not > makes no measurable difference; it's certainly not a cure for overheating > Healeys. > > On another note; I drained my BJ8 to install another heater valve and > block valve and, when filling noticed some crud blocking a couple tubes. It > was hard to extract, but when I did it appeared to be solder that had come > off from somewher (by the shape probably from around a tube). Rad's not > leaking, but I'm not a happy camper; this was an 'uprated' core installed > less than 6 or 7 years ago. > > > On 3/29/2022 7:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > > Hi Bob - > > the Robertshaw thermostats are nicely made, but they open the wrong way > around... let me do some measurements as I am dealing with the cooling on > my BJ8 now. I have a robert shaw... as well as another sleeved thermostat > as well as the bellows. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 9:54 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > >> Years ago, someone--might have been BCS, but I'm not sure--was selling a >> Robertshaw thermostat with a brass sleeve soldered to it (Robertshaw >> thermostats have a center portion that moves up and down). The one I bought >> was 160deg; I desoldered the sleeve and soldered it to a 180deg Robertshaw. >> I bought one of the original, bellows-type from Kees--whatever happened to >> him?--but never installed it; heard they were the 'fail closed' type, which >> could turn a minor failure into a catastrophe (still have it around >> somewhere). >> >> >> https://flowkoolerwaterpumps.com/products/robertshaw-330-160-degree-thermostat >> >> >> On 3/29/2022 6:35 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: >> >> Harold - >> >> Thank you, now I understand how the whole thing is supposed to work. The >> sleeve works to cut off the bypass so that hot water is not recycled into >> the system after it warms up. FWIW, this only applies to the 6 cyl, the 4 >> cyl doesn't have any sort of bypass. >> >> Yes, I think it would be great if you could share with us which >> thermostat to purchase and how to modify it. >> >> Best, >> >> Alan >> >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:28 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> The coolant bypass plays an important but problematic role in the >>> Healey?s cooling system. When the thermostat is closed coolant returns to >>> the water pump via the bypass. See the red circle on the attached picture. >>> The bypass is important for three reasons: its allows the coolant in the >>> block to continue to circulate and come to a uniform temperature before the >>> thermostat opens, it prevents hot spots that could develop from stagnant >>> coolant and it prevents the water pump from dead heading. >>> >>> >>> >>> The problematic part is in the original design the bypass was closed by >>> a sleeve on the bellows type thermostat when the thermostat opened. The >>> original Bellows type thermostat used a volatile liquid and were not >>> reliable and were not suitable for the 7 psi cooling system pressure. Wax >>> type thermostats are much more reliable but they do not have a sleeve to >>> close off the bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas of the >>> original bellows type. >>> >>> >>> >>> After looking at many options the best option for a reasonably priced >>> wax type thermostat with a sleeve to close off the bay pass is the modified >>> Land Rover Series ll thermostat. If anyone would like to know about >>> modifying the Landver thermostat let me know. It can be easily done. >>> >>> >>> >>> Harold >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Michael Salter via Healeys >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:17 AM >>> *To: *Healey list >>> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl >>> >>> >>> >>> The coolant travels from the bottom of the radiator to the water pump >>> into the block then from the block into the head then through the >>> thermostat to the top of the radiator. >>> >>> >>> >>> M >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 11:57 a.m. Elton S, wrote: >>> >>> As a related question, what is the direction of flow through the >>> radiator - up from the bottom or down from the top? >>> >>> Elton >>> >>> BJ7 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter >>> wrote: >>> >>> As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to figure out, the >>> bypass passage is open when the engine is cold, the idea being that by >>> "short circuiting" the radiator the coolant in the heater and bypass >>> passage will warm up more quickly and the heater will produce heat more >>> quickly. >>> >>> We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats that I bought when >>> Smiths Canada closed down. The part number was 43570/28 and we used to sell >>> them to customers who reported overheating problems. >>> >>> I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to overheating issues >>> after being taken to task by a customer who did an extensive study of the >>> issue and proved, at least to my satisfaction, that they improved cooling >>> not one iota. >>> >>> >>> >>> M >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, >>> wrote: >>> >>> I don't know if this has ever been answered before, but where does the >>> little bypass port begin? >>> >>> >>> >>> What parts of the head does that bypass come in contact with? >>> >>> When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when coolant is hot or >>> cold?) >>> >>> >>> >>> I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will cover the bypass >>> port when the thermostat opens >>> >>> then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve actually cover the >>> bypass when it is cold, and doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... >>> so it works exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. >>> >>> >>> >>> confused.... >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Tue Mar 29 20:50:04 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 22:50:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01eb01d843e0$dc026770$94073650$@sympatico.ca> Hi all, FYI, Norm Nock did a nice write up on the thermostat issue in his ?Tech Talk? publication complete with diagrams. He notes that a ?new? (back in 2009) thermostat was available with the sleeve and it moved down as the operating temp was reached. I bought one from him at British Car Specialists and have had no issues at all. No idea if BCS still carry them. It is worth buying a copy of Tech Tips too ? lots of interesting information there! Cheers, Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist via Healeys Sent: March 29, 2022 10:00 PM To: Bob Spidell Cc: Healey list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl Hi Bob - the Robertshaw thermostats are nicely made, but they open the wrong way around... let me do some measurements as I am dealing with the cooling on my BJ8 now. I have a robert shaw... as well as another sleeved thermostat as well as the bellows. Best, Alan On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 9:54 AM Bob Spidell > wrote: Years ago, someone--might have been BCS, but I'm not sure--was selling a Robertshaw thermostat with a brass sleeve soldered to it (Robertshaw thermostats have a center portion that moves up and down). The one I bought was 160deg; I desoldered the sleeve and soldered it to a 180deg Robertshaw. I bought one of the original, bellows-type from Kees--whatever happened to him?--but never installed it; heard they were the 'fail closed' type, which could turn a minor failure into a catastrophe (still have it around somewhere). https://flowkoolerwaterpumps.com/products/robertshaw-330-160-degree-thermostat On 3/29/2022 6:35 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: Harold - Thank you, now I understand how the whole thing is supposed to work. The sleeve works to cut off the bypass so that hot water is not recycled into the system after it warms up. FWIW, this only applies to the 6 cyl, the 4 cyl doesn't have any sort of bypass. Yes, I think it would be great if you could share with us which thermostat to purchase and how to modify it. Best, Alan On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:28 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: The coolant bypass plays an important but problematic role in the Healey?s cooling system. When the thermostat is closed coolant returns to the water pump via the bypass. See the red circle on the attached picture. The bypass is important for three reasons: its allows the coolant in the block to continue to circulate and come to a uniform temperature before the thermostat opens, it prevents hot spots that could develop from stagnant coolant and it prevents the water pump from dead heading. The problematic part is in the original design the bypass was closed by a sleeve on the bellows type thermostat when the thermostat opened. The original Bellows type thermostat used a volatile liquid and were not reliable and were not suitable for the 7 psi cooling system pressure. Wax type thermostats are much more reliable but they do not have a sleeve to close off the bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas of the original bellows type. After looking at many options the best option for a reasonably priced wax type thermostat with a sleeve to close off the bay pass is the modified Land Rover Series ll thermostat. If anyone would like to know about modifying the Landver thermostat let me know. It can be easily done. Harold From: Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:17 AM To: Healey list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl The coolant travels from the bottom of the radiator to the water pump into the block then from the block into the head then through the thermostat to the top of the radiator. M On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 11:57 a.m. Elton S, > wrote: As a related question, what is the direction of flow through the radiator - up from the bottom or down from the top? Elton BJ7 On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter > wrote: As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to figure out, the bypass passage is open when the engine is cold, the idea being that by "short circuiting" the radiator the coolant in the heater and bypass passage will warm up more quickly and the heater will produce heat more quickly. We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats that I bought when Smiths Canada closed down. The part number was 43570/28 and we used to sell them to customers who reported overheating problems. I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to overheating issues after being taken to task by a customer who did an extensive study of the issue and proved, at least to my satisfaction, that they improved cooling not one iota. M On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, > wrote: I don't know if this has ever been answered before, but where does the little bypass port begin? What parts of the head does that bypass come in contact with? When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when coolant is hot or cold?) I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will cover the bypass port when the thermostat opens then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve actually cover the bypass when it is cold, and doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... so it works exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. confused.... 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URL: From jtkarowe at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 21:03:59 2022 From: jtkarowe at gmail.com (John and Kerry Rowe) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 13:03:59 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alan, I purchased some years ago, modern style, from BCS Norman Nock, work well. I would assume they still have them On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 11:37 AM Alan Seigrist via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Harold - > > Thank you, now I understand how the whole thing is supposed to work. The > sleeve works to cut off the bypass so that hot water is not recycled into > the system after it warms up. FWIW, this only applies to the 6 cyl, the 4 > cyl doesn't have any sort of bypass. > > Yes, I think it would be great if you could share with us which thermostat > to purchase and how to modify it. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:28 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> The coolant bypass plays an important but problematic role in the >> Healey?s cooling system. When the thermostat is closed coolant returns to >> the water pump via the bypass. See the red circle on the attached picture. >> The bypass is important for three reasons: its allows the coolant in the >> block to continue to circulate and come to a uniform temperature before the >> thermostat opens, it prevents hot spots that could develop from stagnant >> coolant and it prevents the water pump from dead heading. >> >> >> >> The problematic part is in the original design the bypass was closed by a >> sleeve on the bellows type thermostat when the thermostat opened. The >> original Bellows type thermostat used a volatile liquid and were not >> reliable and were not suitable for the 7 psi cooling system pressure. Wax >> type thermostats are much more reliable but they do not have a sleeve to >> close off the bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas of the >> original bellows type. >> >> >> >> After looking at many options the best option for a reasonably priced wax >> type thermostat with a sleeve to close off the bay pass is the modified >> Land Rover Series ll thermostat. If anyone would like to know about >> modifying the Landver thermostat let me know. It can be easily done. >> >> >> >> Harold >> >> >> >> *From: *Michael Salter via Healeys >> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:17 AM >> *To: *Healey list >> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl >> >> >> >> The coolant travels from the bottom of the radiator to the water pump >> into the block then from the block into the head then through the >> thermostat to the top of the radiator. >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 11:57 a.m. Elton S, wrote: >> >> As a related question, what is the direction of flow through the radiator >> - up from the bottom or down from the top? >> >> Elton >> >> BJ7 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter >> wrote: >> >> As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to figure out, the bypass >> passage is open when the engine is cold, the idea being that by "short >> circuiting" the radiator the coolant in the heater and bypass passage will >> warm up more quickly and the heater will produce heat more quickly. >> >> We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats that I bought when >> Smiths Canada closed down. The part number was 43570/28 and we used to sell >> them to customers who reported overheating problems. >> >> I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to overheating issues >> after being taken to task by a customer who did an extensive study of the >> issue and proved, at least to my satisfaction, that they improved cooling >> not one iota. >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, >> wrote: >> >> I don't know if this has ever been answered before, but where does the >> little bypass port begin? >> >> >> >> What parts of the head does that bypass come in contact with? >> >> When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when coolant is hot or >> cold?) >> >> >> >> I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will cover the bypass port >> when the thermostat opens >> >> then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve actually cover the >> bypass when it is cold, and doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... >> so it works exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. >> >> >> >> confused.... >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Alan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtkarowe at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Mar 29 22:38:08 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 21:38:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Never used any, in this car anyway (for emergencies only, IMO). It was solder. On 3/29/2022 7:42 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Bob - > > One thing it might be is stop leak.? Stop leak can plug up a system if > there's air in there somewhere, and stop leak will form clumps if you > don't drive the car every day.? Using stop leak is fine, but you have > to flush the system out thoroughly after the stop leak has plugged the > holes in your system. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:10 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > > It's been years, and my memory is (always) suspect, but I believe > I put a RS in a pan of boiling water (with a frog, of course). The > conical top of the RS goes up in the thermostat housing, so I > think the moving part can only go down. IIRC, the sleeve only > moved a quarter-inch or so and I thought at the time it would only > cover maybe half of the bypass port. > > I mostly came to the conclusion Michael did: Covering the port or > not makes no measurable difference; it's certainly not a cure for > overheating Healeys. > > On another note; I drained my BJ8 to install another heater valve > and block valve and, when filling noticed some crud blocking a > couple tubes. It was hard to extract, but when I did it appeared > to be solder that had come off from somewher (by the shape > probably from around a tube). Rad's not leaking, but I'm not a > happy camper; this was an 'uprated' core installed less than 6 or > 7 years ago. > > > On 3/29/2022 7:00 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: >> Hi Bob - >> >> the Robertshaw thermostats are nicely made, but they open the >> wrong way around... let me do some measurements as I am dealing >> with the cooling on my BJ8 now.? I have a robert shaw... as well >> as another sleeved thermostat as well as the bellows. >> >> Best, >> >> Alan >> >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 9:54 AM Bob Spidell >> wrote: >> >> Years ago, someone--might have been BCS, but I'm not >> sure--was selling a Robertshaw thermostat with a brass sleeve >> soldered to it (Robertshaw thermostats have a center portion >> that moves up and down). The one I bought was 160deg; I >> desoldered the sleeve and soldered it to a 180deg Robertshaw. >> I bought one of the original, bellows-type from >> Kees--whatever happened to him?--but never installed it; >> heard they were the 'fail closed' type, which could turn a >> minor failure into a catastrophe (still have it around >> somewhere). >> >> https://flowkoolerwaterpumps.com/products/robertshaw-330-160-degree-thermostat >> >> >> On 3/29/2022 6:35 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: >>> Harold - >>> >>> Thank you, now I understand how the whole thing is supposed >>> to work.? The sleeve works to cut off the bypass so that hot >>> water is not recycled into the system after it warms up. >>> FWIW, this only applies to the 6 cyl, the 4 cyl doesn't have >>> any sort of bypass. >>> >>> Yes, I think it would be great if you could share with us >>> which thermostat to purchase and how to modify it. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:28 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys >>> wrote: >>> >>> The coolant bypass plays an important but problematic >>> role in the Healey?s cooling system. When the thermostat >>> is closed coolant returns to the water pump via the >>> bypass. See the red circle on the attached picture. The >>> bypass is important for three reasons: its allows the >>> coolant in the block to continue to circulate and come >>> to a uniform temperature before the thermostat opens, it >>> prevents hot spots that could develop from stagnant >>> coolant and it prevents the water pump from dead heading. >>> >>> The problematic part is in the original design the >>> bypass was closed by a sleeve on the bellows type >>> thermostat when the thermostat opened. The original >>> Bellows type thermostat used a volatile liquid and were >>> not reliable and were not suitable for the 7 psi cooling >>> system pressure. Wax type thermostats are much more >>> reliable but they do not have a sleeve to close off the >>> bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas of >>> the original bellows type. >>> >>> After looking at many options the best option for a >>> reasonably priced wax type thermostat with a sleeve to >>> close off the bay pass is the modified Land Rover Series >>> ll thermostat. If anyone would like to know about >>> modifying the Landver thermostat let me know. It can be >>> easily done. >>> >>> Harold >>> >>> *From: *Michael Salter via Healeys >>> >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:17 AM >>> *To: *Healey list >>> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head >>> - 6-cyl >>> >>> The coolant travels from the bottom of the radiator to >>> the water pump into the block then from the block into >>> the head then through the thermostat to the top of the >>> radiator. >>> >>> M >>> >>> On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 11:57 a.m. Elton S, >>> wrote: >>> >>> As a related question, what is the direction of flow >>> through the radiator - up from the bottom or down >>> from the top? >>> >>> Elton >>> >>> BJ7 >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter >>> wrote: >>> >>> As Gary points out, and far as I have been able >>> to figure out, the bypass passage is open when >>> the engine is cold, the idea being that by >>> "short circuiting" the radiator the coolant in >>> the heater and bypass passage will warm up more >>> quickly and the heater will produce heat more >>> quickly. >>> >>> We had a slew of the "shrouded " type >>> thermostats that I bought when Smiths Canada >>> closed down. The part number was 43570/28 and we >>> used to sell them to customers who reported >>> overheating problems. >>> >>> I stopped promoting them as a potential solution >>> to overheating issues after being taken to task >>> by a customer who did an extensive study of the >>> issue and proved, at least to my satisfaction,? >>> that they improved cooling not one iota. >>> >>> M >>> >>> On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan >>> Seigrist, wrote: >>> >>> I don't know if this has ever been answered >>> before, but where does the little bypass >>> port begin? >>> >>> What parts of the head does that bypass come >>> in contact with? >>> >>> When do you want to cover the port with a >>> sleeve (when coolant is hot or cold?) >>> >>> I ask because the old bellows style >>> thermostat will cover the bypass port when >>> the thermostat opens >>> >>> then I have another wax thermostat and the >>> sleeve actually cover the bypass when it is >>> cold, and doesn't cover it when the >>> thermostat opens.... so it works exact >>> opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. >>> >>> confused.... >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: >>> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On a more practical note, many of us have substantial value tied up in our classic cars. It behooves us to remember that "value" exists only to the extent that buyers are willing to engage, and that to the extent we go out of our way to alienate others [particularly younger generations] we destroy that value. Owning and driving a 50 year old now orphan car benefits from a lot of collective knowledge and goodwill. If new prospective owners are put off by indiscriminate politicization of what is intended to be a technical forum - it surely can't be good for the marque. /rant mode: off /observation mode: restart Al Fuller Fuller Compliance, Inc. Quality Systems, Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 From: Healeys On Behalf Of dwflagg--- via Healeys Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 4:53 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Hi Dave, "Shipping costs thanks to Biden's inflation are stupidly high, hope you live nearby." You were expressing an opinion which, as far as I know, is still legal in this country. Sometimes the truth hurts. I noticed there weren't a lot of followers, except for the one "me too". I agree totally with you. It has been downhill since the election. Just hope the VP never takes over. Regards, Doug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From allan-peters at sky.com Tue Mar 29 23:33:55 2022 From: allan-peters at sky.com (Allan Peters) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 05:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] RE; Early bn1 axle 4 stud problems References: <971477335.161281.1648618435113.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <971477335.161281.1648618435113@mail.yahoo.com> I have a 1954? Bn1? with a 4 stud ,? presumably? spiral bevel? axle.? It currently has an? LSD which? does not like parking? manoevers.? Any? tght lock and the wheels are jumping? around? !!!!? As a quick fix am thinking? a used? diff would be? the answer.So my question is does anyone on the list have one of these Diffs.? please? ??? Any advice very welcome? !!? ?Have been? filling and sanding a? UVL? hardtop for weeks now so need to try and erase it from my mind? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Cheers !!? ? ? ? ? Allan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Wed Mar 30 01:25:27 2022 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 00:25:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Windshield Seal Message-ID: Can someone tell me how to install the windshield to body seal in the bottom channel of the BN2 windshield frame? I have run out of expletives. Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Mar 30 03:05:39 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 17:05:39 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] RE; Early bn1 axle 4 stud problems In-Reply-To: <971477335.161281.1648618435113@mail.yahoo.com> References: <971477335.161281.1648618435113.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <971477335.161281.1648618435113@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Allan - Wow, a spiral bevel with an LSD. I am sure someone on the list will be happy to purchase this, or trade for it. Where are you located? If in the UK or OZ, you might be able to get the spider gears and housing from a junked A90 Atlantic if there are no BN1 axles around, and swap those out with your LSD. Best, Alan On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:39 PM Allan Peters via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I have a 1954 Bn1 with a 4 stud , presumably spiral bevel axle. It > currently has an LSD which does not like parking manoevers. Any tght > lock and the wheels are jumping around !!!! As a quick fix am thinking > a used diff would be the answer.So my question is does anyone on the list > have one of these Diffs. please ?? Any advice very welcome !! Have > been filling and sanding a UVL hardtop for weeks now so need to try and > erase it from my mind > > Cheers !! Allan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Mar 30 05:02:21 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 19:02:21 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Okay - I checked the sleeve to bypass port overlap between the different types of thermostats. Eventhough the bellows thermostat sleeve operates from bottom up, and the robert shaw and other reverse poppet thermostats the sleeve slides the other way around from top down, it seems both types roughly measure up correctly to the bypass port to cut it off when the engine is hot. For future reference, the top of the bypass port is 9/32" from the thermostat lip, and the bottom is 5/8", so the port itself is 11/32" in size from top to bottom. It does appear the robert shaw and other no name reverse poppet thermostat ... the sleeve when closed does leave the bypass open, but with about 30% of the port covered with the sleeve. 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I am sure someone on the list will be > happy to purchase this, or trade for it. > > Where are you located? If in the UK or OZ, you might be able to get the > spider gears and housing from a junked A90 Atlantic if there are no BN1 > axles around, and swap those out with your LSD. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:39 PM Allan Peters via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I have a 1954 Bn1 with a 4 stud , presumably spiral bevel axle. It >> currently has an LSD which does not like parking manoevers. Any tght >> lock and the wheels are jumping around !!!! As a quick fix am thinking >> a used diff would be the answer.So my question is does anyone on the list >> have one of these Diffs. please ?? Any advice very welcome !! Have >> been filling and sanding a UVL hardtop for weeks now so need to try and >> erase it from my mind >> >> Cheers !! 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Any tght > lock and the wheels are jumping around !!!! As a quick fix am thinking > a used diff would be the answer.So my question is does anyone on the list > have one of these Diffs. please ?? Any advice very welcome !! Have > been filling and sanding a UVL hardtop for weeks now so need to try and > erase it from my mind > > Cheers !! Allan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Mar 30 09:26:50 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 08:26:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] RE; Early bn1 axle 4 stud problems In-Reply-To: References: <971477335.161281.1648618435113.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <971477335.161281.1648618435113@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A bit of tangent, but a question for the gurus: There are basically two types of LSDs: clutch-pack type, which is most common, and 'mechanical' types, most common being Torsen (I assume we're talking about a clutch-pack type here). The clutch-pack type essentially locks the two axles together for straight-line traction, but gives enough to allow the rear wheels to rotate at different rates, for turning. Torsen uses complex gearing to somehow sense torque differences to allow the rear wheels to work independently when necessary. The clutch-pack type, like any clutch, has friction plates that wear and eventually need replacing, and the additives--sometimes called 'friction modifiers'--allow more slippage, which kind of obviates the purpose of the LSD, which is to allow us to do two-wheel burnouts in our Healeys, right? My '08 Mustang, when new, would sometimes get a bit 'grabby' in hard (for a non-racer, cornering) but by the time I traded it in at 112K miles I felt it had lost most of this characteristic, but it was hardly noticeable most of the time. But, my '19 Mustang with Torsen sometimes gets a bit grabby in corners, too. So, for a daily driver, what is the advantage of an LSD (esp. with a clutch-pack type, which will eventually need disk replacement)? And, how do you know when your clutch disks are shot, except that you can't do two-wheel burnouts? In my Healeys I use Redline EP gear oil, which comes with or without the friction modifier, which can also be added from a separate bottle (sometimes I buy the 'wrong' stuff but, without LSDs I don't think it makes a difference). On 3/30/2022 5:21 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > Hi Allan, we encountered exactly the same issue with AHX12 during it's > first Targa Newfoundland. > A long-time performance rallyer solved the problem for us completely > by recommending that we add half a bottle of A C Delco Limited Slip > Differential Lubricant Additive Part # 992694. > This additive immediately and completely eliminated the low speed > shudder and jumping issues. > > M > > On Wed., Mar. 30, 2022, 1:39 a.m. Allan Peters via Healeys, > wrote: > > I have a 1954? Bn1? with a 4 stud , presumably? spiral bevel? > axle.? It currently has an LSD which? does not like parking? > manoevers.? Any? tght lock and the wheels are jumping? around? > !!!!? As a quick fix am thinking? a used? diff would be? the > answer.So my question is does anyone on the list have one of these > Diffs.? please? ??? Any advice very welcome? !!? ?Have been? > filling and sanding a? UVL hardtop for weeks now so need to try > and erase it from my mind > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Cheers !! ? ? Allan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Mar 30 09:36:17 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 08:36:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Windshield Seal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd go with soapy water, unless you never plan on repainting. Silicone is (supposedly) difficult to remove and (supposedly) can cause paint aberrations like orange peel or fisheye. Note I'm otherwise a fan of silicone products; I now use it--when I remember--when connecting rubber hoses like heater or radiator hoses; it's no fun trying to disconnect a rubber hose that's been stuck for 10 years. On 3/30/2022 7:28 AM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: > Patience , and soapy water or WD40 or silicone grease. > -Roland > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 12:26 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys > wrote: > > Can someone tell me how to install the windshield to body seal in > the bottom channel of the BN2 windshield frame?? I have run out of > expletives. > Mike MacLean > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Wed Mar 30 12:57:57 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 19:57:57 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Dial gauge Message-ID: <000001d84468$152c6c30$3f854490$@alexarevel.plus.com> I shall be addressing the solenoid adjustment process on my BT7's overdrive quite soon. Reading saved files from the gurus, it seems that one way of getting it right is with a dial gauge. Looks fool proof in the video and could be perfect for someone like me with little mechanical instinct/feel who is better off following instructions. I was quite reluctant to go down this route initially as I thought the gauges would be wildly expensive. Especially so, if you consider how often I'm likely to use one! However, prices aren't too bad and I think I'll get one. So....seems to me that the probe bits on the gauges I'm looking at are all too short to get down to the ball bearing in the OD's operating valve. Looking at the pictures on eBay and Google Images, it seems that most of the probes are tipped with a knurled point which looks like it's designed to be unscrewed. My hope is that tip screws off in order to fit an extension. I've seen extensions on eBay, all with 2.5M thread. Am I right? Does the tip come off to permit the addition of an extension?? (Plainly, not all gauges have this knurled tip and I'll be avoiding those without!) Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Wed Mar 30 14:33:11 2022 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:33:11 +1300 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005701d84475$606f02e0$214d08a0$@xtra.co.nz> Gentlemen, I had ongoing mild occasional overheating issues in my 3000 tri-carb for many years . . . until I fitted a blanking sleeve two years ago. Problem instantly solved. It?ll sometimes climb to 190 on a high-speed hill climb but, otherwise, rock steady where it should be. The sleeve is a stock BMC part. I got mine from a local Mini supply house here in NZ. The part number is 11G 176. Moss sells them: 434-135. I know other suppliers do also. I fit it with a wax stat, which sits neatly on top. Mark Ardmore NZ From: Alan Seigrist Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2022 2:36 PM To: Harold Manifold Cc: Michael Salter ; Healey list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl Harold - Thank you, now I understand how the whole thing is supposed to work. The sleeve works to cut off the bypass so that hot water is not recycled into the system after it warms up. FWIW, this only applies to the 6 cyl, the 4 cyl doesn't have any sort of bypass. Yes, I think it would be great if you could share with us which thermostat to purchase and how to modify it. Best, Alan On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:28 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys > wrote: The coolant bypass plays an important but problematic role in the Healey?s cooling system. When the thermostat is closed coolant returns to the water pump via the bypass. See the red circle on the attached picture. The bypass is important for three reasons: its allows the coolant in the block to continue to circulate and come to a uniform temperature before the thermostat opens, it prevents hot spots that could develop from stagnant coolant and it prevents the water pump from dead heading. The problematic part is in the original design the bypass was closed by a sleeve on the bellows type thermostat when the thermostat opened. The original Bellows type thermostat used a volatile liquid and were not reliable and were not suitable for the 7 psi cooling system pressure. Wax type thermostats are much more reliable but they do not have a sleeve to close off the bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas of the original bellows type. After looking at many options the best option for a reasonably priced wax type thermostat with a sleeve to close off the bay pass is the modified Land Rover Series ll thermostat. If anyone would like to know about modifying the Landver thermostat let me know. It can be easily done. Harold From: Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:17 AM To: Healey list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl The coolant travels from the bottom of the radiator to the water pump into the block then from the block into the head then through the thermostat to the top of the radiator. M On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 11:57 a.m. Elton S, > wrote: As a related question, what is the direction of flow through the radiator - up from the bottom or down from the top? Elton BJ7 On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter > wrote: As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to figure out, the bypass passage is open when the engine is cold, the idea being that by "short circuiting" the radiator the coolant in the heater and bypass passage will warm up more quickly and the heater will produce heat more quickly. We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats that I bought when Smiths Canada closed down. The part number was 43570/28 and we used to sell them to customers who reported overheating problems. I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to overheating issues after being taken to task by a customer who did an extensive study of the issue and proved, at least to my satisfaction, that they improved cooling not one iota. M On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, > wrote: I don't know if this has ever been answered before, but where does the little bypass port begin? What parts of the head does that bypass come in contact with? When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when coolant is hot or cold?) I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will cover the bypass port when the thermostat opens then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve actually cover the bypass when it is cold, and doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... so it works exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. confused.... 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It?ll sometimes climb to 190 on a high-speed > hill climb but, otherwise, rock steady where it should be. > > > > The sleeve is a stock BMC part. I got mine from a local Mini supply house > here in NZ. The part number is *11G 176*. > > Moss sells them: 434-135. I know other suppliers do also. > > > > I fit it with a wax stat, which sits neatly on top. > > > > Mark > > Ardmore > > NZ > > > > *From:* Alan Seigrist > *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 March 2022 2:36 PM > *To:* Harold Manifold > *Cc:* Michael Salter ; Healey list < > Healeys at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl > > > > Harold - > > > > Thank you, now I understand how the whole thing is supposed to work. The > sleeve works to cut off the bypass so that hot water is not recycled into > the system after it warms up. FWIW, this only applies to the 6 cyl, the 4 > cyl doesn't have any sort of bypass. > > Yes, I think it would be great if you could share with us which thermostat > to purchase and how to modify it. > > > > Best, > > > > Alan > > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:28 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > The coolant bypass plays an important but problematic role in the Healey?s > cooling system. When the thermostat is closed coolant returns to the water > pump via the bypass. See the red circle on the attached picture. The bypass > is important for three reasons: its allows the coolant in the block to > continue to circulate and come to a uniform temperature before the > thermostat opens, it prevents hot spots that could develop from stagnant > coolant and it prevents the water pump from dead heading. > > > > The problematic part is in the original design the bypass was closed by a > sleeve on the bellows type thermostat when the thermostat opened. The > original Bellows type thermostat used a volatile liquid and were not > reliable and were not suitable for the 7 psi cooling system pressure. Wax > type thermostats are much more reliable but they do not have a sleeve to > close off the bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas of the > original bellows type. > > > > After looking at many options the best option for a reasonably priced wax > type thermostat with a sleeve to close off the bay pass is the modified > Land Rover Series ll thermostat. If anyone would like to know about > modifying the Landver thermostat let me know. It can be easily done. > > > > Harold > > > > *From: *Michael Salter via Healeys > *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:17 AM > *To: *Healey list > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl > > > > The coolant travels from the bottom of the radiator to the water pump into > the block then from the block into the head then through the thermostat to > the top of the radiator. > > > > M > > > > On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 11:57 a.m. Elton S, wrote: > > As a related question, what is the direction of flow through the radiator > - up from the bottom or down from the top? > > Elton > > BJ7 > > > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter > wrote: > > As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to figure out, the bypass > passage is open when the engine is cold, the idea being that by "short > circuiting" the radiator the coolant in the heater and bypass passage will > warm up more quickly and the heater will produce heat more quickly. > > We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats that I bought when > Smiths Canada closed down. The part number was 43570/28 and we used to sell > them to customers who reported overheating problems. > > I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to overheating issues > after being taken to task by a customer who did an extensive study of the > issue and proved, at least to my satisfaction, that they improved cooling > not one iota. > > > > M > > > > On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, > wrote: > > I don't know if this has ever been answered before, but where does the > little bypass port begin? > > > > What parts of the head does that bypass come in contact with? > > When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when coolant is hot or > cold?) > > > > I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will cover the bypass port > when the thermostat opens > > then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve actually cover the > bypass when it is cold, and doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... > so it works exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. > > > > confused.... > > Cheers, > > > > Alan > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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See the red circle on the attached picture. The bypass > is important for three reasons: its allows the coolant in the block to > continue to circulate and come to a uniform temperature before the > thermostat opens, it prevents hot spots that could develop from stagnant > coolant and it prevents the water pump from dead heading. > > > > The problematic part is in the original design the bypass was closed by a > sleeve on the bellows type thermostat when the thermostat opened. The > original Bellows type thermostat used a volatile liquid and were not > reliable and were not suitable for the 7 psi cooling system pressure. Wax > type thermostats are much more reliable but they do not have a sleeve to > close off the bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas of the > original bellows type. > > > > After looking at many options the best option for a reasonably priced wax > type thermostat with a sleeve to close off the bay pass is the modified > Land Rover Series ll thermostat. If anyone would like to know about > modifying the Landver thermostat let me know. It can be easily done. > > > > Harold > > > > *From: *Michael Salter via Healeys > *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:17 AM > *To: *Healey list > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl > > > > The coolant travels from the bottom of the radiator to the water pump into > the block then from the block into the head then through the thermostat to > the top of the radiator. > > > > M > > > > On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 11:57 a.m. Elton S, wrote: > > As a related question, what is the direction of flow through the radiator > - up from the bottom or down from the top? > > Elton > > BJ7 > > > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:44 AM Michael Salter > wrote: > > As Gary points out, and far as I have been able to figure out, the bypass > passage is open when the engine is cold, the idea being that by "short > circuiting" the radiator the coolant in the heater and bypass passage will > warm up more quickly and the heater will produce heat more quickly. > > We had a slew of the "shrouded " type thermostats that I bought when > Smiths Canada closed down. The part number was 43570/28 and we used to sell > them to customers who reported overheating problems. > > I stopped promoting them as a potential solution to overheating issues > after being taken to task by a customer who did an extensive study of the > issue and proved, at least to my satisfaction, that they improved cooling > not one iota. > > > > M > > > > On Tue., Mar. 29, 2022, 10:47 a.m. Alan Seigrist, > wrote: > > I don't know if this has ever been answered before, but where does the > little bypass port begin? > > > > What parts of the head does that bypass come in contact with? > > When do you want to cover the port with a sleeve (when coolant is hot or > cold?) > > > > I ask because the old bellows style thermostat will cover the bypass port > when the thermostat opens > > then I have another wax thermostat and the sleeve actually cover the > bypass when it is cold, and doesn't cover it when the thermostat opens.... > so it works exact opposite to the old bellows style thermostat. > > > > confused.... > > Cheers, > > > > Alan > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 4:33 PM Mark Donaldson via Healeys > wrote: Gentlemen, I had ongoing mild occasional overheating issues in my 3000 tri-carb for many years . . . until I fitted a blanking sleeve two years ago. Problem instantly solved. It?ll sometimes climb to 190 on a high-speed hill climb but, otherwise, rock steady where it should be. The sleeve is a stock BMC part. I got mine from a local Mini supply house here in NZ. The part number is 11G 176. Moss sells them: 434-135. I know other suppliers do also. I fit it with a wax stat, which sits neatly on top. Mark Ardmore NZ From: Alan Seigrist > Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2022 2:36 PM To: Harold Manifold > Cc: Michael Salter >; Healey list > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl Harold - Thank you, now I understand how the whole thing is supposed to work. The sleeve works to cut off the bypass so that hot water is not recycled into the system after it warms up. FWIW, this only applies to the 6 cyl, the 4 cyl doesn't have any sort of bypass. Yes, I think it would be great if you could share with us which thermostat to purchase and how to modify it. Best, Alan On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:28 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys > wrote: The coolant bypass plays an important but problematic role in the Healey?s cooling system. When the thermostat is closed coolant returns to the water pump via the bypass. See the red circle on the attached picture. The bypass is important for three reasons: its allows the coolant in the block to continue to circulate and come to a uniform temperature before the thermostat opens, it prevents hot spots that could develop from stagnant coolant and it prevents the water pump from dead heading. The problematic part is in the original design the bypass was closed by a sleeve on the bellows type thermostat when the thermostat opened. The original Bellows type thermostat used a volatile liquid and were not reliable and were not suitable for the 7 psi cooling system pressure. Wax type thermostats are much more reliable but they do not have a sleeve to close off the bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas of the original bellows type. After looking at many options the best option for a reasonably priced wax type thermostat with a sleeve to close off the bay pass is the modified Land Rover Series ll thermostat. If anyone would like to know about modifying the Landver thermostat let me know. It can be easily done. Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: F1EF9D3B32CE41B89254AA4DCFB9A8CD.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Mar 30 18:25:00 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 17:25:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Dial gauge In-Reply-To: <000001d84468$152c6c30$3f854490$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d84468$152c6c30$3f854490$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: These are surprising quality for the price (magnetic bases aren't expensive either). I don't recall needing any extension when I used one: https://www.harborfreight.com/1-in-travel-machinists-dial-indicator-63521.html I think one of these would work OK, would be plenty long (as long as you can hold it secure): https://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-fractional-dial-caliper-63655.html On 3/30/2022 11:57 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: > > I shall be addressing the solenoid adjustment process on my BT7?s > overdrive quite soon. Reading saved files from the gurus, it seems > that one way of getting it right is with a dial gauge. Looks fool > proof in the video and could be perfect for someone like me with > little mechanical instinct/feel who is better off following instructions. > > I was quite reluctant to go down this route initially as I thought the > gauges would be wildly expensive. Especially so, if you consider how > often I?m likely to use one! However, prices aren?t too bad and I > think I?ll get one. > > So???.seems to me that the probe bits on the gauges I?m looking at are > all too short to get down to the ball bearing in the OD?s operating > valve. > > Looking at the pictures on eBay and Google Images, it seems that most > of the probes are tipped with a knurled point which looks like it?s > designed to be unscrewed. My hope is that tip screws off in order to > fit an extension. I?ve seen extensions on eBay, all with 2.5M thread. > > Am I right? Does the tip come off to permit the addition of an > extension?? (Plainly, not all gauges have this knurled tip and I?ll be > avoiding those without!) > > Simon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Mar 30 19:34:38 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:34:38 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl In-Reply-To: <4651B2B4-3178-4E10-A725-A17D82A1944A@hxcore.ol> References: <005701d84475$606f02e0$214d08a0$@xtra.co.nz> <001101d84483$c7938cd0$56baa670$@xtra.co.nz> <4651B2B4-3178-4E10-A725-A17D82A1944A@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: Harold - Thank you, that is great information. Oddly I have a purchased unit that is exactly as you show on the right. Must be Moss or someone made that same modification. Generally speaking I think these sleeved thermostats only really matter for hot climates... probably for cooler climates, a normal thermostat is good enough. Best, Alan On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 8:10 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > The blanking sleeve was available for Healey?s and is listed in the parts > list with this note: ?Sleeve - thermostat blanking 11G 176 b > For use in extremely hot climates in lieu of thermostat, optional extra?. I > don?t think it is a good idea to use the blanking sleeve and a thermostat. > The blanking sleeve will fit any car that uses a standard 2 1/8? thermostat. > > > > Pictures of the modified Land Rover 596225 thermostat are attached. Remove > the upper lip from the original thermostat with a Dremel cutting disk. The > material is soft brass and cuts easily. The original in the open and closed > position is on the left and the modified is on the right. The other picture > is the modified thermostat in a Healey 3000 cylinder head. > > > > Harold > > > > *From: *Mark Donaldson > *Sent: *Wednesday, March 30, 2022 3:16 PM > *To: *Jim Ryan > *Cc: *Harold Manifold ; Healey list > > *Subject: *RE: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl > > > > Jim, > > > > I never experienced overheating in our 997 Austin-Cooper. The sleeve fits > many Minis, so I am sure it will fit you?re ?A? series engine too. > > > > The image below incorrectly says it fits a Hundred. Clearly it does not. > But it DOES say it fits a *Sprite*. > > > > Cheers > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Jim Ryan > *Sent:* Thursday, 31 March 2022 10:29 AM > *To:* Mark Donaldson > *Cc:* Harold Manifold ; Healey list < > Healeys at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl > > > > I've been following this, and just wondered if any of this would apply to > a bugeye with the stock 948 in it. > > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 4:33 PM Mark Donaldson via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Gentlemen, > > > > I had ongoing mild occasional overheating issues in my 3000 tri-carb for > many years . . . until I fitted a *blanking sleeve* two years ago. > > Problem instantly solved. It?ll sometimes climb to 190 on a high-speed > hill climb but, otherwise, rock steady where it should be. > > > > The sleeve is a stock BMC part. I got mine from a local Mini supply house > here in NZ. The part number is *11G 176*. > > Moss sells them: 434-135. I know other suppliers do also. > > > > I fit it with a wax stat, which sits neatly on top. > > > > Mark > > Ardmore > > NZ > > > > *From:* Alan Seigrist > *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 March 2022 2:36 PM > *To:* Harold Manifold > *Cc:* Michael Salter ; Healey list < > Healeys at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Coolant bypass port in the head - 6-cyl > > > > Harold - > > > > Thank you, now I understand how the whole thing is supposed to work. The > sleeve works to cut off the bypass so that hot water is not recycled into > the system after it warms up. FWIW, this only applies to the 6 cyl, the 4 > cyl doesn't have any sort of bypass. > > Yes, I think it would be great if you could share with us which thermostat > to purchase and how to modify it. > > Best, > > Alan > > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 1:28 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > The coolant bypass plays an important but problematic role in the Healey?s > cooling system. When the thermostat is closed coolant returns to the water > pump via the bypass. See the red circle on the attached picture. The bypass > is important for three reasons: its allows the coolant in the block to > continue to circulate and come to a uniform temperature before the > thermostat opens, it prevents hot spots that could develop from stagnant > coolant and it prevents the water pump from dead heading. > > The problematic part is in the original design the bypass was closed by a > sleeve on the bellows type thermostat when the thermostat opened. The > original Bellows type thermostat used a volatile liquid and were not > reliable and were not suitable for the 7 psi cooling system pressure. Wax > type thermostats are much more reliable but they do not have a sleeve to > close off the bypass. There may be some expensive wax type replicas of the > original bellows type. > > After looking at many options the best option for a reasonably priced wax > type thermostat with a sleeve to close off the bay pass is the modified > Land Rover Series ll thermostat. If anyone would like to know about > modifying the Landver thermostat let me know. It can be easily done. > > Harold > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: F1EF9D3B32CE41B89254AA4DCFB9A8CD.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Wed Mar 30 22:18:59 2022 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 00:18:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty's manual In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001501d844b6$729120c0$57b36240$@gmail.com> Michael ? I sent you a response off list? Al Fuller Fuller Compliance, Inc. Quality Systems, Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Oritt via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 6:31 PM To: Austin Healey Subject: [Healeys] Smitty's manual I have had a Smitty's five-speed conversion in my 100 for 20 years and have misplaced the manual I got when I put it in. I now need to reference something and am wondering whether the manual exists somewhere online or whether someone has it in digital format who would be willing to share it with me. Best--Michael Oritt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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P Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 30, 2022, at 8:22 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > > ? > Hi Allan, we encountered exactly the same issue with AHX12 during it's first Targa Newfoundland. > A long-time performance rallyer solved the problem for us completely by recommending that we add half a bottle of A C Delco Limited Slip Differential Lubricant Additive Part # 992694. > This additive immediately and completely eliminated the low speed shudder and jumping issues. > > M > >> On Wed., Mar. 30, 2022, 1:39 a.m. Allan Peters via Healeys, wrote: >> I have a 1954 Bn1 with a 4 stud , presumably spiral bevel axle. It currently has an LSD which does not like parking manoevers. Any tght lock and the wheels are jumping around !!!! As a quick fix am thinking a used diff would be the answer.So my question is does anyone on the list have one of these Diffs. please ?? Any advice very welcome !! Have been filling and sanding a UVL hardtop for weeks now so need to try and erase it from my mind >> Cheers !! Allan >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: