From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Apr 1 01:45:33 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 08:45:33 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Accessing OD/Solenoid adjustment Message-ID: <000001d8459c$79153f80$6b3fbe80$@alexarevel.plus.com> Trying again:-... It seems plain that I'll certainly be testing out the solenoid then probably having to adjust the rise/fall of the "lever - solenoid" that moves the operating valve up & down. It is ages, if it ever happened, that I had to access this lever myself. It's behind a plate/cover which, on my BT7 at least, is precisely level with the floor pan and the raised section thereof for the tunnel cover. I could get the cover off at a pinch but no way could I do a decent job with the lever. So....how much do I have to do to be able to jack that end of the gearbox up to gain access? Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 04:08:03 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 06:08:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Accessing OD/Solenoid adjustment In-Reply-To: <000001d8459c$79153f80$6b3fbe80$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d8459c$79153f80$6b3fbe80$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: I'm pretty sure that you will need to remove the entire gearbox cover. M On Fri., Apr. 1, 2022, 3:48 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Trying again:-??. > > It seems plain that I?ll certainly be testing out the solenoid then > probably having to adjust the rise/fall of the ?lever ? solenoid? that > moves the operating valve up & down. > > It is ages, if it ever happened, that I had to access this lever myself. > It?s behind a plate/cover which, on my BT7 at least, is precisely level > with the floor pan and the raised section thereof for the tunnel cover. I > could get the cover off at a pinch but no way could I do a decent job with > the lever. So????how much do I have to do to be able to jack that end of > the gearbox up to gain access? > > Thanks, > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 04:18:53 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 18:18:53 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] SS exhaust pipe cracks Message-ID: All - I have an old Falcon SS system on my BJ8. In the past it's mostly been rather faithful, but after I pulled it out of storage, I have had the two downpipes and one of the centre sections fail with a crack that goes along the entire manufacturer's seam over the length of the pipe. I was wondering if anyone else has ever had a similar problem with SS pipes? [image: signal-2022-04-01-181655_002.jpeg] [image: signal-2022-04-01-181655_001.jpeg] [image: IMG_7527.jpg] Best, Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signal-2022-04-01-181655_002.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 306008 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signal-2022-04-01-181655_001.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 279752 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That seam, if the metal is not too thin, might possibly be welded up. The exterior rust does not look too bad. The question is the amount of corrosion on the inside. Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com > On Apr 1, 2022, at 8:53 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys wrote: > > I have had Falcon SS on for 18 years and they don't look like yours. Your down pipes don't look stainless to me. Try a magnet on them. > From: Healeys > on behalf of Alan Seigrist via Healeys > > Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 3:18 AM > To: Healey list > > Subject: [Healeys] SS exhaust pipe cracks > > All - > > I have an old Falcon SS system on my BJ8. > > In the past it's mostly been rather faithful, but after I pulled it out of storage, I have had the two downpipes and one of the centre sections fail with a crack that goes along the entire manufacturer's seam over the length of the pipe. > > I was wondering if anyone else has ever had a similar problem with SS pipes? > > > > > Best, > > Alan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the past it's mostly been rather faithful, but after I pulled it out of storage, I have had the two downpipes and one of the centre sections fail with a crack that goes along the entire manufacturer's seam over the length of the pipe. I was wondering if anyone else has ever had a similar problem with?SS pipes? Best, Alan_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 19:59:31 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 09:59:31 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] SS exhaust pipe cracks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Richard - These are older Falcon exhausts (25 yr old?), I think they made them from a lower grade of SS at that time. Corrosion you see is only in the surface and only on the down pipes. It?s probably some version of 304 SS. The intermediate pipe that is cracked doesn?t have that corrosion on it, but it?s still cracked along the manufacture seam. Best, Alan On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 at 11:53 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > I have had Falcon SS on for 18 years and they don't look like yours. Your > down pipes don't look stainless to me. Try a magnet on them. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Alan > Seigrist via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2022 3:18 AM > *To:* Healey list > *Subject:* [Healeys] SS exhaust pipe cracks > > All - > > I have an old Falcon SS system on my BJ8. > > In the past it's mostly been rather faithful, but after I pulled it out of > storage, I have had the two downpipes and one of the centre sections fail > with a crack that goes along the entire manufacturer's seam over the length > of the pipe. > > I was wondering if anyone else has ever had a similar problem with SS > pipes? > > [image: signal-2022-04-01-181655_002.jpeg] > [image: signal-2022-04-01-181655_001.jpeg] > [image: IMG_7527.jpg] > Best, > > Alan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 at 9:59 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Richard - > > These are older Falcon exhausts (25 yr old?), I think they made them from > a lower grade of SS at that time. Corrosion you see is only in the surface > and only on the down pipes. It?s probably some version of 304 SS. > > The intermediate pipe that is cracked doesn?t have that corrosion on it, > but it?s still cracked along the manufacture seam. > > Best, > > Alan > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 at 11:53 PM, Richard Kahn > wrote: > >> I have had Falcon SS on for 18 years and they don't look like yours. Your >> down pipes don't look stainless to me. Try a magnet on them. >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Alan >> Seigrist via Healeys >> *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2022 3:18 AM >> *To:* Healey list >> *Subject:* [Healeys] SS exhaust pipe cracks >> >> All - >> >> I have an old Falcon SS system on my BJ8. >> >> In the past it's mostly been rather faithful, but after I pulled it out >> of storage, I have had the two downpipes and one of the centre sections >> fail with a crack that goes along the entire manufacturer's seam over the >> length of the pipe. >> >> I was wondering if anyone else has ever had a similar problem with SS >> pipes? >> >> [image: signal-2022-04-01-181655_002.jpeg] >> [image: signal-2022-04-01-181655_001.jpeg] >> [image: IMG_7527.jpg] >> Best, >> >> Alan >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In this case, the plaque is from a specific Austin Healey. Several Healeys and Austin Healeys have been eligible for this award, but for Austin Healeys, the stand?out would have to be two Austin Healey 100?s that finished the 1953 24?hour race in 12th & 14th place. A remarkable result for a new sports car that had only recently been released to the public. This result did much to bolster sales of the 100. The photo shows the plaque awarded to NOJ 392, the Austin Healey that achieved 12th place, averaging a very respectable 144.15 kph (89.59 mph) and covering 3,462 Kilometres (2,151 miles) in the 24 hours. In recognition of this feat, the Healey Museum has commissioned a ?Museum? key fob replicating the award design. These are available direct from the Healey Museum shop with either a dark blue or black protective outer cover that is embossed with the ?Healey Museum? logo to the rear. You can view the advertisement for the keyrings here ? https://www.healeymuseum.nl/en/product/14647/. 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We did do a pressure test ---max pressure was 325psi. > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 15:10:58 2022 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 17:10:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? Message-ID: <009c01d84868$7b46dd30$71d49790$@gmail.com> Listeners: You may recall my comments about the High Torque starter which would go zap and cause the entire electrical system to go dead. My two friends are much more knowledgeable than I and could not figure out why. Eventually I discovered if you take off the battery ground and leave it off for a few minutes, then reconnect, viola the electrical system comes alive again. The fuel pump hums, the lights go on, the horn blows. Unfortunately, when you engage the starter zap goes the starter. We took the starter off the car and bench tested it. We tested the positive cable from the battery solenoid, the ground, all connections and so on. Same problem. I got a new starter from WOSP and installed it. Same problem. The noise is always in the starter. We are stumped IDEAS?? Bob Begani BJ8 67. . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 15:21:28 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 17:21:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? In-Reply-To: <009c01d84868$7b46dd30$71d49790$@gmail.com> References: <009c01d84868$7b46dd30$71d49790$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sounds to me like there is something in the ground circuit that is failing. Perhaps nothing more than a corroded connection that you are partially cleaning up when removing the lead which then fails when the load is appklied. Try a new heavy cable with clean fittings and go directly from battery negative to ground, bypassing the shutoff switch. Best--Michael Oritt On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 5:11 PM Bob Begani via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Listeners: > > > > You may recall my comments about the High Torque starter which would go > zap and cause the entire electrical system to go dead. My two friends are > much more knowledgeable than I and could not figure out why. Eventually I > discovered if you take off the battery ground and leave it off for a few > minutes, then reconnect, viola the electrical system comes alive again. The > fuel pump hums, the lights go on, the horn blows. Unfortunately, when you > engage the starter zap goes the starter. We took the starter off the car > and bench tested it. We tested the positive cable from the battery > solenoid, the ground, all connections and so on. Same problem. > > > > > > I got a new starter from WOSP and installed it. Same problem. The noise > is always in the starter. > > > > We are stumped IDEAS?? > > > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 67. . > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 15:28:59 2022 From: healeydoc at gmail.com (David Nock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 14:28:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? In-Reply-To: <009c01d84868$7b46dd30$71d49790$@gmail.com> References: <009c01d84868$7b46dd30$71d49790$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Bad connection at one of the battery cables or battery switch. Turn on the headlights and leave them on for about 15 minutes. Then go around and touch the battery and ground cable connections. You will find one that is warm. Voila there is your bad connection. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Bob Begani via Healeys Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:10 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? Listeners: You may recall my comments about the High Torque starter which would go zap and cause the entire electrical system to go dead. My two friends are much more knowledgeable than I and could not figure out why. Eventually I discovered if you take off the battery ground and leave it off for a few minutes, then reconnect, viola the electrical system comes alive again. The fuel pump hums, the lights go on, the horn blows. Unfortunately, when you engage the starter zap goes the starter. We took the starter off the car and bench tested it. We tested the positive cable from the battery solenoid, the ground, all connections and so on. Same problem. I got a new starter from WOSP and installed it. Same problem. The noise is always in the starter. We are stumped IDEAS?? Bob Begani BJ8 67. . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Try a new heavy cable with clean fittings and go directly > from battery negative to ground, bypassing the shutoff switch. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 5:11 PM Bob Begani via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Listeners: >> >> >> >> You may recall my comments about the High Torque starter which would go >> zap and cause the entire electrical system to go dead. My two friends are >> much more knowledgeable than I and could not figure out why. Eventually I >> discovered if you take off the battery ground and leave it off for a few >> minutes, then reconnect, viola the electrical system comes alive again. The >> fuel pump hums, the lights go on, the horn blows. Unfortunately, when you >> engage the starter zap goes the starter. We took the starter off the car >> and bench tested it. We tested the positive cable from the battery >> solenoid, the ground, all connections and so on. Same problem. >> >> >> >> >> >> I got a new starter from WOSP and installed it. Same problem. The noise >> is always in the starter. >> >> >> >> We are stumped IDEAS?? >> >> >> >> Bob Begani >> >> BJ8 67. . >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/springer.mike51 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Apr 4 16:10:21 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 18:10:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] OD problem update---BJ8 In-Reply-To: <645881703.170246580.1649092859087.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <645881703.170246580.1649092859087.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: <6116D817-3138-4365-9458-53CC112E25A3@aol.com> Understand that the lever was misadjusted by 40 thousands. Lining up using the alignment pin does not always allow the O/D to operate properly. Glad that it is working again. Perry Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 4, 2022, at 1:21 PM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote: > > Today is a good day. My OD rebuilder came by and after adjusting the OD lever, the OD goes in and out perfectly!! I'm happy. Thank you Andy--my rebuilder. We did do a pressure test ---max pressure was 325psi. > > Tom From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Apr 4 17:32:27 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 19:32:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues References: <374F4DEF-DA0F-4D48-8210-C7DD16DE1CC7.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <374F4DEF-DA0F-4D48-8210-C7DD16DE1CC7@aol.com> Bob Is it possible that the after market high torque starter that you are using is set up for negative ground only? For a contact type starter like the original Lucas, it doesn?t care but perhaps your replacement unit has protection built in. P Sent from my iPhone From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 18:05:56 2022 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 00:05:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor Message-ID: It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine. Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, and assembly $510 Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again, it's not a Chevy. TY, Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 18:47:25 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 17:47:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: last time I had my engine rebuilt was over 45 years ago and the machine shop work was done for two cases of beer. I worked at the Auto Parts store at the time. Plus $45 bucks for balancing the driveline. Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 5:06 PM S and T Miller via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might > just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop > work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems > reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them > the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I > supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, > etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the > engine. > > Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 > > Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, > and assembly $510 > > Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 > > Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 > > Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore > mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear > main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 > > I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a > bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again, > it's not a Chevy. > TY, Shawn > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ah53 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:19:21 2022 From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 01:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend to be higher and it came to about $600 Joe On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys wrote: It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings,? freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine.? Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface,? and assembly $510 Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 I know this is a loaded question,? and really just curious if these seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again,? it's not a Chevy.?TY, Shawn The Millers ? "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 21:04:04 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 11:04:04 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> References: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about inflation. ? On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend > to be higher and it came to about $600 > > Joe > > On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might > just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop > work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems > reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them > the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I > supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, > etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the > engine. > > Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 > > Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, > and assembly $510 > > Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 > > Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 > > Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore > mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear > main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 > > I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a > bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again, > it's not a Chevy. > TY, Shawn > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Mon Apr 4 21:37:35 2022 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 03:37:35 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: References: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics here... ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Alan Seigrist via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM To: jomar healey Cc: S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about inflation. ? On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys > wrote: I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend to be higher and it came to about $600 Joe On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys > wrote: It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine. Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, and assembly $510 Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again, it's not a Chevy. TY, Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Apr 4 21:57:59 2022 From: Tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 23:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] OD problem update---BJ8 In-Reply-To: <6116D817-3138-4365-9458-53CC112E25A3@aol.com> References: <645881703.170246580.1649092859087.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> <6116D817-3138-4365-9458-53CC112E25A3@aol.com> Message-ID: <1379947660.170909000.1649131079503.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Yep, the 3/16 rod/hole alignment didnt work. So happy he came over today. ----- Original Message ----- From: Perry Small To: Tom Felts Cc: healeys Sent: Mon, 04 Apr 2022 18:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD problem update---BJ8 Understand that the lever was misadjusted by 40 thousands. Lining up using the alignment pin does not always allow the O/D to operate properly. Glad that it is working again. Perry Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 4, 2022, at 1:21 PM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote: > > Today is a good day. My OD rebuilder came by and after adjusting the OD lever, the OD goes in and out perfectly!! I'm happy. Thank you Andy--my rebuilder. We did do a pressure test ---max pressure was 325psi. > > Tom From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 22:56:45 2022 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 21:56:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal Message-ID: All done with the rubber seal installationat the bottom of my BN2 windscreen. Asyou can see in the picture I must have done something right. Both ends fit nice and tight against the curves. Thank you to all the encouragement from the list, but special thanks to British Car Specialists for the instruction sheets they included with the rubber I bought from them. Would never have turned out so well without that knowledge. Thanks Dave. Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You will find > one that is warm. Voila there is your bad connection. > > > David Nock > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > 209 948 8767 > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the > British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites > by visiting the site at. > www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org > > *From:* Bob Begani via Healeys > *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2022 2:10 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new > starter. Gremlins? > > > Listeners: > > > > You may recall my comments about the High Torque starter which would go > zap and cause the entire electrical system to go dead. My two friends are > much more knowledgeable than I and could not figure out why. Eventually I > discovered if you take off the battery ground and leave it off for a few > minutes, then reconnect, viola the electrical system comes alive again. The > fuel pump hums, the lights go on, the horn blows. Unfortunately, when you > engage the starter zap goes the starter. We took the starter off the car > and bench tested it. We tested the positive cable from the battery > solenoid, the ground, all connections and so on. Same problem. > > > > > > I got a new starter from WOSP and installed it. Same problem. The noise > is always in the starter. > > > > We are stumped IDEAS?? > > > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 67. . > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For a contact type starter like the original Lucas, it doesn?t care but perhaps your replacement unit has protection built in. P Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rfbegani at gmail.com From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Tue Apr 5 06:14:43 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 13:14:43 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] OD queries Message-ID: <000001d848e6$bca30d70$35e92850$@alexarevel.plus.com> I should be receiving a "Dial Gauge" or "Dial Indicator" through the post today. Should.. I hope to use it to set the lift in my OD's operating valve. See pic, attached. Now.. 1. I always see reference to adjusting how much the ball lifts by putting the gauge's probe(?) onto the ball itself. Fair enough in operating terms but can one not adjust by how much the rod lifts? ie remove the spring plunger and ball. The rod has a flat top surface after all... 2. My previous solenoid was absolutely fried and I bought a replacement. It came with a little rubber gaiter or boot which fits over the plunger and goes into the little case where the solenoid's plunger is attached to the lever. I'd never seen one of these before although I note that it's shown in the Parts Book. What's the purpose of this thing? It seems redundant to me. I seem to recall that not all cars with ODs had the lever & plunger enclosed. Maybe it was for them.? To me, at least, it seems to be superfluous, even slightly creating a certain stickiness in the up/down transit. But, there it is, in the Parts Book. Should I fit it?? 3. I've seen reference to adjusting the lever's "drop". This is presumably done with the little nut that sits under where the plunger is grabbed by the lever. There doesn't look to be much spare up and down latitude available for this adjustment and, furthermore, I note that the nut is not shown in the Parts Book which only has a little rubber bung/stop. Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OD.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2549965 bytes Desc: not available URL: From healeyrik at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:18:45 2022 From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 09:18:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Wanted: BJ8 Rear Cockpit Trim Rail Message-ID: Hi All, I'm installing a new Stayfast top on my BJ7. The chrome trim rail around the top of the shroud at the bottom of the rear of the top had a sharp edge that contributed to slicing of the top when lowered. It was replaced with a different rail (AEB9907) on the BJ8. Would anyone have one of the BJ8 rails in good condition for sale so I don't cut up my new top? Thanks, Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick" Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From warthodson at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:11:30 2022 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 14:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <810347226.1456544.1649167890205@mail.yahoo.com> Mike,Would you post the instructions here? I will be installing the seal some day & they sound very helpful.Gary Hodson? -----Original Message----- From: Michael MacLean via Healeys To: Ahealey help Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 11:56 pm Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal All done with the rubber seal installationat the bottom of my BN2 windscreen.? Asyou can see in the picture I must have done something right.? Both ends fit nice and tight against the curves.? Thank you to all the encouragement from the list, but special thanks to British Car Specialists for the instruction sheets they included with the rubber I bought from them.? Would never have turned out so well without that knowledge.? Thanks Dave.Mike MacLean_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From airtightproductions at me.com Tue Apr 5 08:44:53 2022 From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2022 14:44:53 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17691dd7-01b9-4b8f-bc9e-39b00339c6fd@me.com> I rebuilt my 100 engine last year and had machine shop work done. I took the shop my head first and I had already taken the valves out, so all I needed was to have the head cleaned, inspected, ever so slightly shaved as it was nice and flat and new valve guides inserted and made sure they were 0.003 clearance for my valves in each guide. Total cost for that was right at $200 US.I then took them my block where they cleaned the block, drilled out the cylinders, ordered new sleeves and inserted the sleeves, bored them to fit my new pistons, honed them with a beautiful cross hatch and again, made sure the top of the block was nice and flat. Measured and polished my crank because it was in good shape and sent out my cam to a specialty shop where it was inspected and cleaned up with a slight re-grind. The cam was an M spec cam to begin with. That work came to $950.I was extremely pleased with the quality of their work and although they did take a long time, I wasn't in a hurry, so I didn't mind the time factor. It's a real old fashioned style of shop and they build some really nice race car engines and have an excellent reputation.?I am now assembling a MGB engine they just did for me, pretty much the same scenario except the cylinders just needed a hone and this time they took my valves out, installed new guides and put in new valves and springs. So they cleaned the block, removed and replaced cam bearings, bored and honed the block to 0.020 over, clean and rebushed the rods, did a valve job, removed and replaced the guides, installed new valve seats, resurfaced the head and polish the crank. That work cost me $650. And that even included 5 quarts of Driven break in oil.?The shop is in Brookings, Oregon and I tipped them very well with some wine, crackers, and a basket filled with assorted different cheeses. And again, the quality of work is top notch.This shop came highly recommended by a friend in my hometown and he was a Bonneville racer with more than a few speed records out there.?So bottom line, I got a deal and everyone who uses this shop gets a deal, as they are worth every penny they charge and I am very fortunate to have them pretty much in "my backyard". (Thirty miles from home)Steven KingsburyBN1On Apr 4, 2022, at 5:06 PM, S and T Miller via Healeys wrote:It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings,? freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine.?Clean and machine stock flywheel $140Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface,? and assembly $510Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675I know this is a loaded question,? and really just curious if these seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again,? it's not a Chevy.?TY, ShawnThe Millers ? 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I hope to use it to set the lift in my OD's operating valve. See pic, attached. Now.. 1. I always see reference to adjusting how much the ball lifts by putting the gauge's probe(?) onto the ball itself. Fair enough in operating terms but can one not adjust by how much the rod lifts? ie remove the spring plunger and ball. The rod has a flat top surface after all... 2. My previous solenoid was absolutely fried and I bought a replacement. It came with a little rubber gaiter or boot which fits over the plunger and goes into the little case where the solenoid's plunger is attached to the lever. I'd never seen one of these before although I note that it's shown in the Parts Book. What's the purpose of this thing? It seems redundant to me. I seem to recall that not all cars with ODs had the lever & plunger enclosed. Maybe it was for them.? To me, at least, it seems to be superfluous, even slightly creating a certain stickiness in the up/down transit. But, there it is, in the Parts Book. Should I fit it?? 3. I've seen reference to adjusting the lever's "drop". This is presumably done with the little nut that sits under where the plunger is grabbed by the lever. There doesn't look to be much spare up and down latitude available for this adjustment and, furthermore, I note that the nut is not shown in the Parts Book which only has a little rubber bung/stop. Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I will be installing the seal some > day & they sound very helpful. > Gary Hodson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael MacLean via Healeys > To: Ahealey help > Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 11:56 pm > Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal > > All done with the rubber seal installationat the bottom of my BN2 > windscreen. Asyou can see in the picture I must have done something > right. Both ends fit nice and tight against the curves. Thank you to all > the encouragement from the list, but special thanks to British Car > Specialists for the instruction sheets they included with the rubber I > bought from them. Would never have turned out so well without that > knowledge. 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URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Tue Apr 5 12:48:06 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2022 18:48:06 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor Message-ID: <1ff606c80ca86f295a4ed0ad86c083b554be72be@webmail> The last 100 engine that I rebuilt was in 2015-gosh now 7 years gone- but I did all that you both describe, except adding a rear seal upgrade, but balancing the engine crank & bits...that cost was about $2500 and I too used a great machine shop in Eugene, Or.-Southworth- great guys, top notch work; engine went together perfect. Recently, I had a head issue on the 100 and sent it over to Southworth and they maged it, pressure tested and shaved it to the tune of $170, so $$ have gone up a bit in 7 years. Hank, healeyhelper.com -----------------------------------------From: "Steven Kingsbury via Healeys" To: "S and T Miller" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday April 5 2022 11:21:04AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor I rebuilt my 100 engine last year and had machine shop work done. I took the shop my head first and I had already taken the valves out, so all I needed was to have the head cleaned, inspected, ever so slightly shaved as it was nice and flat and new valve guides inserted and made sure they were 0.003 clearance for my valves in each guide. Total cost for that was right at $200 US. I then took them my block where they cleaned the block, drilled out the cylinders, ordered new sleeves and inserted the sleeves, bored them to fit my new pistons, honed them with a beautiful cross hatch and again, made sure the top of the block was nice and flat. Measured and polished my crank because it was in good shape and sent out my cam to a specialty shop where it was inspected and cleaned up with a slight re-grind. The cam was an M spec cam to begin with. That work came to $950. I was extremely pleased with the quality of their work and although they did take a long time, I wasn't in a hurry, so I didn't mind the time factor. It's a real old fashioned style of shop and they build some really nice race car engines and have an excellent reputation. I am now assembling a MGB engine they just did for me, pretty much the same scenario except the cylinders just needed a hone and this time they took my valves out, installed new guides and put in new valves and springs. So they cleaned the block, removed and replaced cam bearings, bored and honed the block to 0.020 over, clean and rebushed the rods, did a valve job, removed and replaced the guides, installed new valve seats, resurfaced the head and polish the crank. That work cost me $650. And that even included 5 quarts of Driven break in oil. The shop is in Brookings, Oregon and I tipped them very well with some wine, crackers, and a basket filled with assorted different cheeses. And again, the quality of work is top notch. This shop came highly recommended by a friend in my hometown and he was a Bonneville racer with more than a few speed records out there. So bottom line, I got a deal and everyone who uses this shop gets a deal, as they are worth every penny they charge and I am very fortunate to have them pretty much in "my backyard". (Thirty miles from home) Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Apr 4, 2022, at 5:06 PM, S and T Miller via Healeys wrote: It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine. Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, and assembly $510 Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again, it's not a Chevy. 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Just to be contrarian, maybe the starter is causing a dead short, somehow? On 4/5/2022 4:41 AM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote: > Perry, the ground is negative. From comments made by others am just going to replace the ground strap and with serrated washers so they dig into the metal especially on the frame. Will keep all advised. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Perry Small via Healeys > Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:32 PM > To: healeys > Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues > > Bob > Is it possible that the after market high torque starter that you are using is set up for negative ground only? For a contact type starter like the original Lucas, it doesn?t care but perhaps your replacement unit has protection built in. > P > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > From eyera3000 at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:25:47 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 12:25:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Nissonger Message-ID: Don't know how I missed this, but just got this email reply to inquiry- During the early morning hours of Sept. 2nd 2021 our facility was buried under 6 +? of water as Hurricane Ida passed through the New York area. A large portion of our repair parts inventory along with numerous pieces of Test Equipment were damaged or destroyed, thus we are no longer accepting Instruments/Gauges for repair or restoration Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. 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Side note: Roger Moment recommends limiting the length of time running the starter when firing up a newly rebuilt engine and getting oil pressure, etc. Give the poor switch time to recover. -Roland On Tue, Apr 5, 2022, 11:53 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > The starter balking is understandable--at least, intuitively--but all > the other electricals ceasing to work isn't (assuming the battery is > still connected). After all, this isn't a modern car with a PCM, ECU, > etc; we're just talking copper wire here. My folks' Lincoln would die > when one of the CoPs would put a voltage spike on its primary lead, > which would knock the PCM out cold. No such silliness in a Healey. > > Just to be contrarian, maybe the starter is causing a dead short, somehow? > > > On 4/5/2022 4:41 AM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote: > > Perry, the ground is negative. From comments made by others am just > going to replace the ground strap and with serrated washers so they dig > into the metal especially on the frame. Will keep all advised. > > > > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Perry Small > via Healeys > > Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:32 PM > > To: healeys > > Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues > > > > Bob > > Is it possible that the after market high torque starter that you are > using is set up for negative ground only? For a contact type starter like > the original Lucas, it doesn?t care but perhaps your replacement unit has > protection built in. > > P > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 15:29:11 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 17:29:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues In-Reply-To: References: <374F4DEF-DA0F-4D48-8210-C7DD16DE1CC7.ref@aol.com> <374F4DEF-DA0F-4D48-8210-C7DD16DE1CC7@aol.com> <018301d848e2$071f7320$155e5960$@gmail.com> <7f168312-9976-c288-d33d-25696f337e55@comcast.net> Message-ID: "Give the poor switch time to recover. " ---------------------------------- Better to give it a decent burial. There are plenty of switches available including ones that ground the alternator when the circuit is killed. I replaced my switch with a Hella unit years ago and put it in the positive cable to the starter, thus providing a way of shutting off current from the battery to the rest of the car. Best--Michael Oritt On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 3:37 PM Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > The battery switch is on the light duty side but it must carry the full > starting current. I can imagine that the terminals inside the switch get > hot and warp just a bit disconnecting the battery. Then if given a chance > to cool the terminals return to make connection once more. > > Side note: Roger Moment recommends limiting the length of time running the > starter when firing up a newly rebuilt engine and getting oil pressure, > etc. Give the poor switch time to recover. > > -Roland > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022, 11:53 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > >> The starter balking is understandable--at least, intuitively--but all >> the other electricals ceasing to work isn't (assuming the battery is >> still connected). After all, this isn't a modern car with a PCM, ECU, >> etc; we're just talking copper wire here. My folks' Lincoln would die >> when one of the CoPs would put a voltage spike on its primary lead, >> which would knock the PCM out cold. No such silliness in a Healey. >> >> Just to be contrarian, maybe the starter is causing a dead short, somehow? >> >> >> On 4/5/2022 4:41 AM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote: >> > Perry, the ground is negative. From comments made by others am just >> going to replace the ground strap and with serrated washers so they dig >> into the metal especially on the frame. Will keep all advised. >> > >> > Bob >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Perry >> Small via Healeys >> > Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:32 PM >> > To: healeys >> > Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues >> > >> > Bob >> > Is it possible that the after market high torque starter that you are >> using is set up for negative ground only? For a contact type starter like >> the original Lucas, it doesn?t care but perhaps your replacement unit has >> protection built in. >> > P >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A > large portion of our repair parts inventory along with numerous pieces of > Test Equipment were damaged or destroyed, thus we are no longer accepting > Instruments/Gauges for repair or restoration > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie,OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB [image: MG] > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've heard they sold ALL of > their parts and tooling to West Valley instruments in Los Angeles. > > FWIW, I stopped?doing business with West Valley 30 years ago... > */Screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me."/* > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 12:32 PM i erbs via Healeys > wrote: > > Don't know how I missed this, but just got this email reply to > inquiry- > During the early morning hours of Sept. 2^nd 2021 our facility was > buried under 6 +? of water as Hurricane Ida passed through the New > York area. A large portion of our repair parts inventory along > with numerous pieces of Test Equipment were damaged or destroyed, > thus we are no longer accepting Instruments/Gauges for repair or > restoration > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie,OR > ? ? _______ ?_______ > ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > ? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB MG > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. 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Screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me." On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 12:32 PM i erbs via Healeys wrote: Don't know how I missed this, but just got this email reply to inquiry- During the early morning hours of Sept. 2nd 2021 our facility was buried under 6 +? of water as Hurricane Ida passed through the New York area. A large portion of our repair parts inventory along with numerous pieces of Test Equipment were damaged or destroyed, thus we are no longer accepting Instruments/Gauges for repair or restoration Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB MG A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. 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URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 17:54:55 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 16:54:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Nissonger In-Reply-To: <003901d84946$f2fbb470$d8f31d50$@rr.com> References: <6db1cfbf-27dc-ecb2-07f1-dd0768b58809@comcast.net> <003901d84946$f2fbb470$d8f31d50$@rr.com> Message-ID: Curtis had a catastrophic failure, but they have worked on my gauges for forty years without issue Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Tue, Apr 5, 2022, 4:44 PM BJ8Healeys via Healeys wrote: > And so have I. > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Mike > Sinclair > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2022 7:24 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Nissonger > > > > FWIW, I've had very good experience with West Valley. > > Mike > > On 4/5/2022 3:36 PM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys wrote: > > I believe that Nissongres is back in business BUT they are no longer doing > work on British car instruments. I've heard they sold ALL of their parts > and tooling to West Valley instruments in Los Angeles. > > > > FWIW, I stopped doing business with West Valley 30 years ago... *Screw me > once, shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me."* > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 12:32 PM i erbs via Healeys > wrote: > > Don't know how I missed this, but just got this email reply to inquiry- > > During the early morning hours of Sept. 2nd 2021 our facility was buried > under 6 +? of water as Hurricane Ida passed through the New York area. A > large portion of our repair parts inventory along with numerous pieces of > Test Equipment were damaged or destroyed, thus we are no longer accepting > Instruments/Gauges for repair or restoration > > Ira Erbs > > Milwaukie,OR > > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > > BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > > > > 1967 MGB [image: MG] > > > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 20:03:05 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 19:03:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] OD queries In-Reply-To: <000001d848e6$bca30d70$35e92850$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d848e6$bca30d70$35e92850$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: IIRC, last time I swapped an O/D solenoid I took the 'gaiter' off; with an enclosure I don't see the need and I don't want it hanging up the plunger (I guess just oil pressure holds the lever down?). My previous solenoid, which I believe was OEM didn't have one. On 4/5/2022 5:14 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: > > I should be receiving a ?Dial Gauge? or ?Dial Indicator? through the > post today. Should?. > > I hope to use it to set the lift in my OD?s operating valve. > > See pic, attached. > > Now?? > > 1. I always see reference to adjusting how much the ball lifts by > putting the gauge?s probe(?) onto the ball itself. Fair enough in > operating terms but can one not adjust by how much the rod lifts? > ie remove the spring plunger and ball. The rod has a flat top > surface after all??. > 2. My previous solenoid was absolutely fried and I bought a > replacement. It came with a little rubber gaiter or boot which > fits over the plunger and goes into the little case where the > solenoid?s plunger is attached to the lever. I?d never seen one of > these before although I note that it?s shown in the Parts Book. > What?s the purpose of this thing? It seems redundant to me. I seem > to recall that not all cars with ODs had the lever & plunger > enclosed. Maybe it was for them?? To me, at least, it seems to be > superfluous, even slightly creating a certain stickiness in the > up/down transit. But, there it is, in the Parts Book. Should I fit > it?? > 3. I?ve seen reference to adjusting the lever?s ?drop?. This is > presumably done with the little nut that sits under where the > plunger is grabbed by the lever. There doesn?t look to be much > spare up and down latitude available for this adjustment and, > furthermore, I note that the nut is not shown in the Parts Book > which only has a little rubber bung/stop. > > Thanks, > > Simon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Tue Apr 5 20:04:23 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 22:04:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Nissonger In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03c701d8495a$a2cf2b80$e86d8280$@sympatico.ca> That is a real shame. I have used Nisonger on a number of occasions and always had great service from them. They have supported the sports car scene for a long time; in an issue of Healey Marque in the last couple of years (I can?t remember exactly) there was a historic photo of the Healey pit at Sebring, and in the background was an advertisement across the top of the pits that read ?Nisonger?. I will miss them. I note that the announcement just says they are not doing repairs. They also supply parts, for instance last summer I bought a set of o-rings that the instruments seat on against the dash, and the larger diameter ones were all the correct square section. Cheers, Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of i erbs via Healeys Sent: April 5, 2022 3:26 PM To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] Nissonger Don't know how I missed this, but just got this email reply to inquiry- During the early morning hours of Sept. 2nd 2021 our facility was buried under 6 +? of water as Hurricane Ida passed through the New York area. A large portion of our repair parts inventory along with numerous pieces of Test Equipment were damaged or destroyed, thus we are no longer accepting Instruments/Gauges for repair or restoration Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ~WRD1205.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 823 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 20:08:49 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 19:08:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues In-Reply-To: References: <374F4DEF-DA0F-4D48-8210-C7DD16DE1CC7.ref@aol.com> <374F4DEF-DA0F-4D48-8210-C7DD16DE1CC7@aol.com> <018301d848e2$071f7320$155e5960$@gmail.com> <7f168312-9976-c288-d33d-25696f337e55@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9897ceb9-d80e-5875-2773-7fa023210c5d@comcast.net> Plausible. I've rebuilt a battery switch, the contacts are pretty beefy copper plates, and I think they'd melt before they'd warp and return to shape, but ... plausible. On 4/5/2022 12:27 PM, Roland Wilhelmy wrote: > The battery switch is on the light duty side but it must carry the > full starting current. I can imagine that the terminals inside the > switch get hot and warp just a bit disconnecting the battery. Then if > given a chance to cool the terminals return to make connection once more. > > Side note: Roger Moment recommends limiting the length of time running > the starter when firing up a newly rebuilt engine and getting oil > pressure, etc. Give the poor switch time to recover. > > -Roland > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022, 11:53 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > > The starter balking is understandable--at least, intuitively--but all > the other electricals ceasing to work isn't (assuming the battery is > still connected). After all, this isn't a modern car with a PCM, ECU, > etc; we're just talking copper wire here. My folks' Lincoln would die > when one of the CoPs would put a voltage spike on its primary lead, > which would knock the PCM out cold. No such silliness in a Healey. > > Just to be contrarian, maybe the starter is causing a dead short, > somehow? > > > On 4/5/2022 4:41 AM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote: > > Perry, the ground is negative.? From comments made by others am > just going to replace the ground strap and with serrated washers > so they dig into the metal especially on the frame.? Will keep all > advised. > > > > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of > Perry Small via Healeys > > Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:32 PM > > To: healeys > > Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues > > > > Bob > > Is it possible that the after market high torque starter that > you are using is set up for negative ground only? For a contact > type starter like the original Lucas, it doesn?t care but perhaps > your replacement unit has protection built in. > > P > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 20:21:29 2022 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 22:21:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: References: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00eb01d8495d$073b69b0$15b23d10$@gmail.com> It sounds like you just did? ? Al Fuller Fuller Compliance, Inc. Quality Systems, Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 From: Healeys On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist via Healeys Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 11:04 PM To: jomar healey Cc: S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about inflation. ? On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys > wrote: I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend to be higher and it came to about $600 Joe On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys > wrote: It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine. Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, and assembly $510 Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again, it's not a Chevy. TY, Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 05:14:30 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 19:14:30 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: <00eb01d8495d$073b69b0$15b23d10$@gmail.com> References: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> <00eb01d8495d$073b69b0$15b23d10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: All - For what it's worth, if you get your motor bored, honed, surfaced and balanced by a pro, it can make a huge difference in the long term. I had my BJ8 done by Bailey Brothers 35 years ago (race shop just south of Napa Valley), and they really knew their stuff. I would assume they still know their stuff, they are still there. 100K miles and 35 years later, the hone on my cylinders is identical to the day it came out of the shop. I'd argue my BJ8 is still the smoothest running BJ8 in the world (last three words to be announced in Jeremey Clarkson's voice), they balanced every moving part in my motor. Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 10:22 AM Al Fuller via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > It sounds like you just did? ? > > > > *Al Fuller* > > Fuller Compliance, Inc. > > Quality Systems, Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Alan > Seigrist via Healeys > *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2022 11:04 PM > *To:* jomar healey > *Cc:* S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor > > > > I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about inflation. ? > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend > to be higher and it came to about $600 > > > > Joe > > > > On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > > > It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might > just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop > work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems > reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them > the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I > supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, > etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the > engine. > > > > Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 > > > > Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, > and assembly $510 > > > > Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 > > > > Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 > > > > Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore > mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear > main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 > > > > I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a > bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again, > it's not a Chevy. > > TY, Shawn > > > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Apr 6 05:47:46 2022 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 07:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: References: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> <00eb01d8495d$073b69b0$15b23d10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1092047895.172481514.1649245666702.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> FWIW, I just had my 66 E-Type engine/head completely reworked by a machine shop here known for their Jag engine experience. All new parts were installed--except the crank. We are still reassembling it and I cannot wait to give it a try. Pretty much all that Alan talked about was done on it. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Seigrist via Healeys To: Al Fuller Cc: Healey list Sent: Wed, 06 Apr 2022 07:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor All - For what it's worth, if you get your motor bored, honed, surfaced and balanced by a pro, it can make a huge difference in the long term. I had my BJ8 done by Bailey Brothers 35 years ago (race shop just south of Napa Valley), and they really knew their stuff. I would assume they still know their stuff, they are still there. 100K miles and 35 years later, the hone on my cylinders is identical to the day it came out of the shop. I'd argue my BJ8 is still the smoothest running BJ8 in the world (last three words to be announced in Jeremey Clarkson's voice), they balanced every moving part in my motor. Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 10:22 AM Al Fuller via Healeys wrote: It sounds like you just did? \uD83D\uDE0A Al FullerFuller Compliance, Inc.Quality Systems, Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 From: Healeys On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist via Healeys Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 11:04 PM To: jomar healey Cc: S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about inflation. \uD83D\uDE01 On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys wrote:I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend to be higher and it came to about $600 Joe On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys wrote: It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine. Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, and assembly $510 Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again, it's not a Chevy. 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URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Wed Apr 6 06:04:51 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 08:04:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Nisonger References: Message-ID: 1978 Catalog and Price Lists -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_9528.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 35854 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- ?America?s Foremost Importer Since 1946? Sent from my iPhone From healeyguy at aol.com Wed Apr 6 06:20:03 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 08:20:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues In-Reply-To: <9897ceb9-d80e-5875-2773-7fa023210c5d@comcast.net> References: <9897ceb9-d80e-5875-2773-7fa023210c5d@comcast.net> Message-ID: There is a small coil spring in the Lucas battery switch which in my experience has been the weak link. P Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 5, 2022, at 10:09 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > ? Plausible. I've rebuilt a battery switch, the contacts are pretty beefy copper plates, and I think they'd melt before they'd warp and return to shape, but ... plausible. > > On 4/5/2022 12:27 PM, Roland Wilhelmy wrote: >> The battery switch is on the light duty side but it must carry the full starting current. I can imagine that the terminals inside the switch get hot and warp just a bit disconnecting the battery. Then if given a chance to cool the terminals return to make connection once more. >> >> Side note: Roger Moment recommends limiting the length of time running the starter when firing up a newly rebuilt engine and getting oil pressure, etc. Give the poor switch time to recover. >> >> -Roland >> >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022, 11:53 AM Bob Spidell wrote: >>> The starter balking is understandable--at least, intuitively--but all >>> the other electricals ceasing to work isn't (assuming the battery is >>> still connected). After all, this isn't a modern car with a PCM, ECU, >>> etc; we're just talking copper wire here. My folks' Lincoln would die >>> when one of the CoPs would put a voltage spike on its primary lead, >>> which would knock the PCM out cold. No such silliness in a Healey. >>> >>> Just to be contrarian, maybe the starter is causing a dead short, somehow? >>> >>> >>> On 4/5/2022 4:41 AM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote: >>> > Perry, the ground is negative. From comments made by others am just going to replace the ground strap and with serrated washers so they dig into the metal especially on the frame. Will keep all advised. >>> > >>> > Bob >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Perry Small via Healeys >>> > Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:32 PM >>> > To: healeys >>> > Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues >>> > >>> > Bob >>> > Is it possible that the after market high torque starter that you are using is set up for negative ground only? For a contact type starter like the original Lucas, it doesn?t care but perhaps your replacement unit has protection built in. >>> > P >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone >>> > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Wed Apr 6 07:47:18 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 14:47:18 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues In-Reply-To: References: <9897ceb9-d80e-5875-2773-7fa023210c5d@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000501d849bc$d5ec6bb0$81c54310$@alexarevel.plus.com> Yes, that?s a pretty wretched item. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Perry Small via Healeys Sent: 06 April 2022 13:20 To: Bob Spidell Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues There is a small coil spring in the Lucas battery switch which in my experience has been the weak link. P Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2022, at 10:09 PM, Bob Spidell > wrote: ? Plausible. I've rebuilt a battery switch, the contacts are pretty beefy copper plates, and I think they'd melt before they'd warp and return to shape, but ... plausible. On 4/5/2022 12:27 PM, Roland Wilhelmy wrote: The battery switch is on the light duty side but it must carry the full starting current. I can imagine that the terminals inside the switch get hot and warp just a bit disconnecting the battery. Then if given a chance to cool the terminals return to make connection once more. Side note: Roger Moment recommends limiting the length of time running the starter when firing up a newly rebuilt engine and getting oil pressure, etc. Give the poor switch time to recover. -Roland On Tue, Apr 5, 2022, 11:53 AM Bob Spidell > wrote: The starter balking is understandable--at least, intuitively--but all the other electricals ceasing to work isn't (assuming the battery is still connected). After all, this isn't a modern car with a PCM, ECU, etc; we're just talking copper wire here. My folks' Lincoln would die when one of the CoPs would put a voltage spike on its primary lead, which would knock the PCM out cold. No such silliness in a Healey. Just to be contrarian, maybe the starter is causing a dead short, somehow? On 4/5/2022 4:41 AM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote: > Perry, the ground is negative. From comments made by others am just going to replace the ground strap and with serrated washers so they dig into the metal especially on the frame. Will keep all advised. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Perry Small via Healeys > Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:32 PM > To: healeys > > Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues > > Bob > Is it possible that the after market high torque starter that you are using is set up for negative ground only? For a contact type starter like the original Lucas, it doesn?t care but perhaps your replacement unit has protection built in. > P > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 09:14:48 2022 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 11:14:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Starter Electrical problems Message-ID: <00f401d849c9$0ef2d8c0$2cd88a40$@gmail.com> Solved by bypassing the old solenoid which was just being used as a pass through and bolting the positive wire from the battery directly to the wire from the High Torque starter. In addition, replacing a new engine ground and positive battery terminal. One or all were the problem. It was not the starter locking out. It was the power from the battery although it was intermittent and hard to find. Thanks to everyone for your comments. Bob Begani 67 BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 09:44:37 2022 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 11:44:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Excessive oil coming out the clutch housing Message-ID: <013901d849cd$390d5cd0$ab281670$@gmail.com> Listeners: We pulled the transmission in my BJ8 and removed the mounting plate from the engine. The gasket was in place and not torn. After cleaning the surfaces, I ran a small bead of Right Stuff Permatex sealer round the outline of the gasket on the plate and then smooth the bead with a wooden coffee stirring, laid down the gasket and ran my finger lightly pressing all around the gasket. Then applied a bead of Right Stuff to the gasket and smooth the bead all around the gasket. Carefully attaching the mounting plate on the engine, installing the screws, and pressing the plate to the block and lightly tightening the screws for an over night setting. Next day began tighting the secrew, installing the flywheel and the starter. After, getting the starter electrical problems fixed, I turned the key and the engine started. I kept watching the kitty litter under the engine plate for signs of oil while watching the temperature of the engine go up and increasing the rpms. Once the rpms got to 2,000 RPM, I just let it run while watch the oil pressure and water temperature. Approximately 10 minuets later increased the rpms to 3000 RPMs for a few min as the water temperature was at 200 degrees, I turned off the engine. Not a drop of oil was found. 3 hours later performed the same test except raised to 3500 RPMs. I will keep running the engine regularly until we put the trans back in. The job needs these newer gaskets making caulking as opposed to the old Permatex products. Maybe we do not need gaskets anymore with the Right Stuff and other such fast cure products. According to my brother, a Cadillac specialist mechanic and other friends say the engines of today do not use gaskets or very little us of gasket material. After the trans I can concentrate on installing a new oil pump and other things. Thank you all for you comments. This is a great group. Bob Begani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Wed Apr 6 10:12:10 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 09:12:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: <1092047895.172481514.1649245666702.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> <00eb01d8495d$073b69b0$15b23d10$@gmail.com> , <1092047895.172481514.1649245666702.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: <3FB56E1B-FB99-44B9-B93B-0919060297AA@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 13:09:39 2022 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 12:09:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal In-Reply-To: <810347226.1456544.1649167890205@mail.yahoo.com> References: <810347226.1456544.1649167890205@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: OK, here are two PDFs that represent the instructions that came with the rubber seal bought from British Car Specialist. I followed these instructions to the letter. Maybe buying the seal from David made the difference too, but it worked. In addition I went to Home Depot and purchased a Wagner Furno 300 heat gun and used it on the high setting to heat and stretch the rubber at the ends to get the desired result you see in the picture. The instructions saved my dumba** from trying to slide the seal in from one side. The instructions show a much easier way that one person can accomplish on their own without help. The stretching and heating of the ends of the seal are much easier with an extra set of hands to hold the windscreen assembly while the other person does the heating and stretching. Good luck with yours. No financial interest, just a very satisfied customer. On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 10:55 AM warthodson--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Mike, > Would you post the instructions here? I will be installing the seal some > day & they sound very helpful. > Gary Hodson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael MacLean via Healeys > To: Ahealey help > Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 11:56 pm > Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal > > All done with the rubber seal installationat the bottom of my BN2 > windscreen. Asyou can see in the picture I must have done something > right. Both ends fit nice and tight against the curves. Thank you to all > the encouragement from the list, but special thanks to British Car > Specialists for the instruction sheets they included with the rubber I > bought from them. Would never have turned out so well without that > knowledge. 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Bob From: Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:50 AM To: David Nock Cc: Robert Begani ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? I think David is absolutely correct. I would suggest taking the ground cable off the battery then use a battery jumper (booster) cable between the battery terminal and a good ground, something like a bumper mount, then try the starter. M On Mon., Apr. 4, 2022, 10:31 p.m. David Nock, > wrote: Bad connection at one of the battery cables or battery switch. Turn on the headlights and leave them on for about 15 minutes. Then go around and touch the battery and ground cable connections. You will find one that is warm. Voila there is your bad connection. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Bob Begani via Healeys Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:10 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? Listeners: You may recall my comments about the High Torque starter which would go zap and cause the entire electrical system to go dead. My two friends are much more knowledgeable than I and could not figure out why. Eventually I discovered if you take off the battery ground and leave it off for a few minutes, then reconnect, viola the electrical system comes alive again. The fuel pump hums, the lights go on, the horn blows. Unfortunately, when you engage the starter zap goes the starter. We took the starter off the car and bench tested it. We tested the positive cable from the battery solenoid, the ground, all connections and so on. Same problem. I got a new starter from WOSP and installed it. Same problem. The noise is always in the starter. We are stumped IDEAS?? 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URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 08:09:24 2022 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (Ricchardd Mayor) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 07:09:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: References: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5CC767D9-5411-4B3E-8282-2E2F5F8CAE0A@gmail.com> My understanding is that today?s inflation is a worldwide phenomenon. I hope this is not being political. Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com > On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote: > > Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics here... > From: Healeys on behalf of Alan Seigrist via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM > To: jomar healey > Cc: S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor > > I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about inflation. ? > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys > wrote: > I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend to be higher and it came to about $600 > > Joe > > On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys > wrote: > > > It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine. > > Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 > > Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, and assembly $510 > > Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 > > Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 > > Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 > > I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again, it's not a Chevy. > TY, Shawn > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics here... > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Alan > Seigrist via Healeys > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM > *To:* jomar healey > *Cc:* S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net < > healeys at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor > > I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about inflation. ? > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend > to be higher and it came to about $600 > > Joe > > On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might > just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop > work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems > reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them > the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I > supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, > etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the > engine. > > Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 > > Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, > and assembly $510 > > Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 > > Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 > > Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore > mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear > main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 > > I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a > bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again, > it's not a Chevy. > TY, Shawn > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Apr 8 00:24:54 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 14:24:54 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: References: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> <5CC767D9-5411-4B3E-8282-2E2F5F8CAE0A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Usually inflation is caused by one of three things: 1. having restricted supply, 2. increased demand, 3. government printing lots of money. Coming out of COVID we have the trifecta... so greed doesn't really factor into it because you always have greed in good economies and bad economies. I won't get into the politics of why, just a 2-second economics lesson. Incidentally my Econ 1 professor was Laura Tyson, who was President Clinton's Chief Economic Advisor. I got an A in her class ?. If you can believe it I also had Janet Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury in business school, reference point #3 above ? Cheers, Alan On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM i erbs via Healeys wrote: > Greed has no borders > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, OR > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 10:48 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> My understanding is that today?s inflation is a worldwide phenomenon. I >> hope this is not being political. >> >> >> Richard Mayor >> boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> >> On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics here... >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Alan >> Seigrist via Healeys >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM >> *To:* jomar healey >> *Cc:* S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net < >> healeys at autox.team.net> >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor >> >> I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about >> inflation. ? >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend >> to be higher and it came to about $600 >> >> Joe >> >> On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might >> just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop >> work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems >> reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them >> the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I >> supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, >> etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the >> engine. >> >> Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 >> >> Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, >> resurface, and assembly $510 >> >> Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 >> >> Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 >> >> Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore >> mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear >> main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 >> >> I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem >> a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then >> again, it's not a Chevy. >> TY, Shawn >> >> The Millers >> >> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test >> drive." >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From francis at thibaud.fr Fri Apr 8 00:30:05 2022 From: francis at thibaud.fr (Francis THIBAUD) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2022 06:30:05 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100 ignition advance curve Message-ID: Hi, new contributor here, thanks for your help. Does anyone know where to find the BN1 Lucas distributor ignition advance curve ? I have fitted a 123 distributor, which has a choice of several preset advance curves, I would like to know the original Lucas curve to set the 123 as close as possible to the original. Thanks ! Francis THIBAUD -------- Message d'origine -------- Le 7 avr. 2022 ? 20:00, a ?crit : > Send Healeys mailing list submissions to > healeys at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > healeys-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal (Michael MacLean) > 2. Re: Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. > Gremlins? (rfbegani at gmail.com) > 3. Re: Sticker stock- machine shop labor (Ricchardd Mayor) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 12:09:39 -0700 > From: Michael MacLean > To: warthodson at aol.com, Ahealey help > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > OK, here are two PDFs that represent the instructions that came with the > rubber seal bought from British Car Specialist. I followed these > instructions to the letter. Maybe buying the seal from David made the > difference too, but it worked. In addition I went to Home Depot and > purchased a Wagner Furno 300 heat gun and used it on the high setting to > heat and stretch the rubber at the ends to get the desired result you see > in the picture. The instructions saved my dumba** from trying to slide the > seal in from one side. The instructions show a much easier way that one > person can accomplish on their own without help. The stretching and > heating of the ends of the seal are much easier with an extra set of hands > to hold the windscreen assembly while the other person does the heating and > stretching. Good luck with yours. No financial interest, just a very > satisfied customer. > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 10:55 AM warthodson--- via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Mike, >> Would you post the instructions here? I will be installing the seal some >> day & they sound very helpful. >> Gary Hodson >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael MacLean via Healeys >> To: Ahealey help >> Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 11:56 pm >> Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal >> >> All done with the rubber seal installationat the bottom of my BN2 >> windscreen. Asyou can see in the picture I must have done something >> right. Both ends fit nice and tight against the curves. Thank you to all >> the encouragement from the list, but special thanks to British Car >> Specialists for the instruction sheets they included with the rubber I >> bought from them. Would never have turned out so well without that >> knowledge. Thanks Dave. >> Mike MacLean >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/springer.mike51 at gmail.com >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Windscreen Instructions.pdf > Type: application/pdf > Size: 1461454 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Windscreen Instructions Handwritten.pdf > Type: application/pdf > Size: 670563 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 07:48:14 -0400 > From: > To: "'Michael Salter'" , > , > Cc: "'Hermann Schaller'" , > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new > starter. Gremlins? > Message-ID: <018401d848e3$09186780$1b493680$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks Mike I never seen David?s comment. Am going to replace the ground strap to the engine. My friend and my brother both having 35 years as mechanics suggested it. I did clean it but, After all it is 55 years young. Will keep you all informed. > > Bob > > From: Michael Salter > Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:50 AM > To: David Nock > Cc: Robert Begani ; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? > > I think David is absolutely correct. > > I would suggest taking the ground cable off the battery then use a battery jumper (booster) cable between the battery terminal and a good ground, something like a bumper mount, then try the starter. > > M > > On Mon., Apr. 4, 2022, 10:31 p.m. David Nock, > wrote: > > Bad connection at one of the battery cables or battery switch. > > Turn on the headlights and leave them on for about 15 minutes. Then go around and touch the battery and ground cable connections. You will find one that is warm. Voila there is your bad connection. > > David Nock > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > 209 948 8767 > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the > British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites > by visiting the site at. > www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org > > From: Bob Begani via Healeys > > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:10 PM > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? > > Listeners: > > You may recall my comments about the High Torque starter which would go zap and cause the entire electrical system to go dead. My two friends are much more knowledgeable than I and could not figure out why. Eventually I discovered if you take off the battery ground and leave it off for a few minutes, then reconnect, viola the electrical system comes alive again. The fuel pump hums, the lights go on, the horn blows. Unfortunately, when you engage the starter zap goes the starter. We took the starter off the car and bench tested it. We tested the positive cable from the battery solenoid, the ground, all connections and so on. Same problem. > > I got a new starter from WOSP and installed it. Same problem. The noise is always in the starter. > > We are stumped IDEAS?? > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 67. . > > _____ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 07:09:24 -0700 > From: Ricchardd Mayor > To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Cc: Alan Seigrist via Healeys , jomar healey > , Alan Seigrist , S and T Miller > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor > Message-ID: <5CC767D9-5411-4B3E-8282-2E2F5F8CAE0A at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > My understanding is that today?s inflation is a worldwide phenomenon. I hope this is not being political. > > Richard Mayor > boyracer466 at gmail.com > >> On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote: >> >> Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics here... >> From: Healeys on behalf of Alan Seigrist via Healeys >> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM >> To: jomar healey >> Cc: S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor >> >> I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about inflation. ? >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys > wrote: >> I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend to be higher and it came to about $600 >> >> Joe >> >> On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys > wrote: >> >> >> It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine. >> >> Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 >> >> Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, and assembly $510 >> >> Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 >> >> Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 >> >> Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 >> >> I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then again, it's not a Chevy. >> TY, Shawn >> >> The Millers >> >> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Healeys mailing list > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > archives: http://autox.team.net/archive > > ------------------------------ > > End of Healeys Digest, Vol 15, Issue 106 > **************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Apr 8 00:31:04 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 23:31:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: References: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> <5CC767D9-5411-4B3E-8282-2E2F5F8CAE0A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Reason four Profiteering And yes it's happening Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:25 PM Alan Seigrist wrote: > Usually inflation is caused by one of three things: > > 1. having restricted supply, > 2. increased demand, > 3. government printing lots of money. > > Coming out of COVID we have the trifecta... so greed doesn't really factor > into it because you always have greed in good economies and bad economies. > I won't get into the politics of why, just a 2-second economics lesson. > > Incidentally my Econ 1 professor was Laura Tyson, who was President > Clinton's Chief Economic Advisor. I got an A in her class ?. If you can > believe it I also had Janet Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury in business > school, reference point #3 above ? > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM i erbs via Healeys > wrote: > >> Greed has no borders >> >> Ira Erbs >> 1959 AH 100-6 >> 1967 MGB >> Milwaukie, OR >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 10:48 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> My understanding is that today?s inflation is a worldwide phenomenon. I >>> hope this is not being political. >>> >>> >>> Richard Mayor >>> boyracer466 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics >>> here... >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Alan >>> Seigrist via Healeys >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM >>> *To:* jomar healey >>> *Cc:* S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor >>> >>> I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about >>> inflation. ? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend >>> to be higher and it came to about $600 >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might >>> just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop >>> work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems >>> reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them >>> the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I >>> supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, >>> etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the >>> engine. >>> >>> Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 >>> >>> Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, >>> resurface, and assembly $510 >>> >>> Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 >>> >>> Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 >>> >>> Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore >>> mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear >>> main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 >>> >>> I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem >>> a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then >>> again, it's not a Chevy. >>> TY, Shawn >>> >>> The Millers >>> >>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test >>> drive." >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Apr 8 00:40:42 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 14:40:42 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: References: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> <5CC767D9-5411-4B3E-8282-2E2F5F8CAE0A@gmail.com> Message-ID: 'Profiteering' is ALWAYS happening Ira. Economically speaking, inflation is caused by demand/supply shocks & printing money. Best, Alan On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 2:31 PM i erbs wrote: > Reason four > Profiteering > And yes it's happening > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, OR > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:25 PM Alan Seigrist wrote: > >> Usually inflation is caused by one of three things: >> >> 1. having restricted supply, >> 2. increased demand, >> 3. government printing lots of money. >> >> Coming out of COVID we have the trifecta... so greed doesn't really >> factor into it because you always have greed in good economies and bad >> economies. I won't get into the politics of why, just a 2-second economics >> lesson. >> >> Incidentally my Econ 1 professor was Laura Tyson, who was President >> Clinton's Chief Economic Advisor. I got an A in her class ?. If you can >> believe it I also had Janet Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury in business >> school, reference point #3 above ? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alan >> >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM i erbs via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> Greed has no borders >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> 1959 AH 100-6 >>> 1967 MGB >>> Milwaukie, OR >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 10:48 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>>> My understanding is that today?s inflation is a worldwide phenomenon. I >>>> hope this is not being political. >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard Mayor >>>> boyracer466 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys < >>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics >>>> here... >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Alan >>>> Seigrist via Healeys >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM >>>> *To:* jomar healey >>>> *Cc:* S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net < >>>> healeys at autox.team.net> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor >>>> >>>> I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about >>>> inflation. ? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys < >>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices >>>> tend to be higher and it came to about $600 >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> >>>> On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys < >>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might >>>> just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop >>>> work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems >>>> reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them >>>> the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I >>>> supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, >>>> etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the >>>> engine. >>>> >>>> Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 >>>> >>>> Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, >>>> resurface, and assembly $510 >>>> >>>> Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 >>>> >>>> Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 >>>> >>>> Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore >>>> mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear >>>> main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 >>>> >>>> I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these >>>> seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then >>>> again, it's not a Chevy. >>>> TY, Shawn >>>> >>>> The Millers >>>> >>>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test >>>> drive." >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Apr 8 00:44:50 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 23:44:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: References: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> <5CC767D9-5411-4B3E-8282-2E2F5F8CAE0A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Let's agree to disagree and get back to cars Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:40 PM Alan Seigrist wrote: > 'Profiteering' is ALWAYS happening Ira. > > Economically speaking, inflation is caused by demand/supply shocks & > printing money. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 2:31 PM i erbs wrote: > >> Reason four >> Profiteering >> And yes it's happening >> >> Ira Erbs >> 1959 AH 100-6 >> 1967 MGB >> Milwaukie, OR >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:25 PM Alan Seigrist wrote: >> >>> Usually inflation is caused by one of three things: >>> >>> 1. having restricted supply, >>> 2. increased demand, >>> 3. government printing lots of money. >>> >>> Coming out of COVID we have the trifecta... so greed doesn't really >>> factor into it because you always have greed in good economies and bad >>> economies. I won't get into the politics of why, just a 2-second economics >>> lesson. >>> >>> Incidentally my Econ 1 professor was Laura Tyson, who was President >>> Clinton's Chief Economic Advisor. I got an A in her class ?. If you can >>> believe it I also had Janet Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury in business >>> school, reference point #3 above ? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM i erbs via Healeys < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Greed has no borders >>>> >>>> Ira Erbs >>>> 1959 AH 100-6 >>>> 1967 MGB >>>> Milwaukie, OR >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 10:48 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys < >>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My understanding is that today?s inflation is a worldwide phenomenon. >>>>> I hope this is not being political. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Richard Mayor >>>>> boyracer466 at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys < >>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics >>>>> here... >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Alan >>>>> Seigrist via Healeys >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM >>>>> *To:* jomar healey >>>>> *Cc:* S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor >>>>> >>>>> I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about >>>>> inflation. ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys < >>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices >>>>> tend to be higher and it came to about $600 >>>>> >>>>> Joe >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys < >>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I >>>>> might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had >>>>> machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I >>>>> paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and >>>>> consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. >>>>> Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, >>>>> freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm >>>>> assembling the engine. >>>>> >>>>> Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 >>>>> >>>>> Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, >>>>> resurface, and assembly $510 >>>>> >>>>> Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 >>>>> >>>>> Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 >>>>> >>>>> Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore >>>>> mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear >>>>> main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 >>>>> >>>>> I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these >>>>> seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then >>>>> again, it's not a Chevy. >>>>> TY, Shawn >>>>> >>>>> The Millers >>>>> >>>>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a >>>>> test drive." >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best of luck, Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Francis THIBAUD via Healeys Sent: 08 April 2022 07:30 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] 100 ignition advance curve Hi, new contributor here, thanks for your help. Does anyone know where to find the BN1 Lucas distributor ignition advance curve ? I have fitted a 123 distributor, which has a choice of several preset advance curves, I would like to know the original Lucas curve to set the 123 as close as possible to the original. Thanks ! Francis THIBAUD -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Lucas distributor data.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 161995 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 4/7/2022 11:40 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > 'Profiteering' is ALWAYS happening Ira. > > Economically speaking, inflation is caused by demand/supply shocks & > printing money. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 2:31 PM i erbs wrote: > > Reason four > Profiteering > And yes it's happening > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, OR > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:25 PM Alan Seigrist > wrote: > > Usually inflation is caused by one of three things: > > 1. having restricted supply, > 2. increased demand, > 3. government printing lots of money. > > Coming out of COVID we have the trifecta... so greed doesn't > really factor into it because you always have greed in good > economies and bad economies.? I won't get into the politics of > why, just a 2-second economics lesson. > > Incidentally my Econ 1 professor was Laura Tyson, who was > President Clinton's Chief?Economic Advisor.? I got an A in her > class??.? If you can believe it I also had Janet Yellen, > Secretary of the Treasury in business school, reference point > #3 above?? > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM i erbs via Healeys > wrote: > > Greed has no borders > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, OR > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 10:48 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys > wrote: > > My understanding is that today?s inflation is a > worldwide phenomenon. I hope this is not being political. > > > Richard?Mayor > boyracer466 at gmail.com > > >> On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via >> Healeys wrote: >> >> Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on >> those topics here... >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Healeys on >> behalf of Alan Seigrist via Healeys >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM >> *To:* jomar healey >> *Cc:* S and T Miller ; >> healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop >> labor >> I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment >> about inflation.??? >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via >> Healeys wrote: >> >> I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North >> Jersey where prices tend to be higher and it came >> to about $600 >> >> Joe >> >> On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and >> T Miller via Healeys wrote: >> >> >> It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an >> AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the >> rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine >> shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let >> me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had >> work done at this particular shop and consider >> them the best around, so the quality of work >> isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all >> parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings,? >> freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a >> disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine. >> >> Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 >> >> Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine >> seats/ guides, resurface,? and assembly $510 >> >> Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 >> >> Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for >> rear seal kit $580 >> >> Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, >> bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam >> bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off >> rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 >> >> I know this is a loaded question, and really just >> curious if these seem a bit inflated. When I >> Googled average costs, it seems high, but then >> again,? it's not a Chevy. >> TY, Shawn >> >> The Millers >> >> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an >> antique car is a test drive." >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From llennep at verizon.net Fri Apr 8 09:51:26 2022 From: llennep at verizon.net (llennep at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 15:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Fuel pumps In-Reply-To: <1060973716.68322.1649388757576@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1060973716.68322.1649388757576.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1060973716.68322.1649388757576@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <734487629.213268.1649433088611@mail.yahoo.com> Ray this is not SU pump right? -----Original Message----- From: Ray Juncal via Healeys To: List Healey Sent: Thu, Apr 7, 2022 11:32 pm Subject: [Healeys] Fuel pumps Anyone out there have a box of fuel pump parts? I have a rebuilt pump with a bad mounting hole in the lower casting. As you can see in the photos the casting has been damaged when someone drove a bolt that was too long into the casting and broke it. If you have a pump that is beyond repair I could use that casting. Everything else on this pump works fine.ThanksRay ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_3116.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3204613 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Apr 8, 2022, 2:46 AM i erbs wrote: > Let's agree to disagree and get back to cars > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, OR > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:40 PM Alan Seigrist wrote: > >> 'Profiteering' is ALWAYS happening Ira. >> >> Economically speaking, inflation is caused by demand/supply shocks & >> printing money. >> >> Best, >> >> Alan >> >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 2:31 PM i erbs wrote: >> >>> Reason four >>> Profiteering >>> And yes it's happening >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> 1959 AH 100-6 >>> 1967 MGB >>> Milwaukie, OR >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:25 PM Alan Seigrist >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Usually inflation is caused by one of three things: >>>> >>>> 1. having restricted supply, >>>> 2. increased demand, >>>> 3. government printing lots of money. >>>> >>>> Coming out of COVID we have the trifecta... so greed doesn't really >>>> factor into it because you always have greed in good economies and bad >>>> economies. I won't get into the politics of why, just a 2-second economics >>>> lesson. >>>> >>>> Incidentally my Econ 1 professor was Laura Tyson, who was President >>>> Clinton's Chief Economic Advisor. I got an A in her class ?. If you can >>>> believe it I also had Janet Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury in business >>>> school, reference point #3 above ? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM i erbs via Healeys < >>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Greed has no borders >>>>> >>>>> Ira Erbs >>>>> 1959 AH 100-6 >>>>> 1967 MGB >>>>> Milwaukie, OR >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 10:48 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys < >>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My understanding is that today?s inflation is a worldwide phenomenon. >>>>>> I hope this is not being political. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Richard Mayor >>>>>> boyracer466 at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys < >>>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics >>>>>> here... >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Alan >>>>>> Seigrist via Healeys >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM >>>>>> *To:* jomar healey >>>>>> *Cc:* S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about >>>>>> inflation. ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys < >>>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices >>>>>> tend to be higher and it came to about $600 >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I >>>>>> might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had >>>>>> machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I >>>>>> paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and >>>>>> consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. >>>>>> Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, >>>>>> freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm >>>>>> assembling the engine. >>>>>> >>>>>> Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 >>>>>> >>>>>> Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, >>>>>> resurface, and assembly $510 >>>>>> >>>>>> Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 >>>>>> >>>>>> Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 >>>>>> >>>>>> Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore >>>>>> mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear >>>>>> main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 >>>>>> >>>>>> I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these >>>>>> seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then >>>>>> again, it's not a Chevy. >>>>>> TY, Shawn >>>>>> >>>>>> The Millers >>>>>> >>>>>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a >>>>>> test drive." >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>> >>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>> >>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>> >>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>> >>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Apr 8 09:39:34 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 08:39:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor In-Reply-To: References: <515628088.2065569.1649121561252@mail.yahoo.com> <5CC767D9-5411-4B3E-8282-2E2F5F8CAE0A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry You are correct Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Fri, Apr 8, 2022, 6:42 AM Jim Ryan wrote: > Can we also agree to no longer reply to these kind of comments. Maybe if > they aren't reinforced they won't happen. > > Kind of like ignoring that rattle under the bonnet in the hope it will > just go away? > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022, 2:46 AM i erbs wrote: > >> Let's agree to disagree and get back to cars >> >> Ira Erbs >> 1959 AH 100-6 >> 1967 MGB >> Milwaukie, OR >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:40 PM Alan Seigrist wrote: >> >>> 'Profiteering' is ALWAYS happening Ira. >>> >>> Economically speaking, inflation is caused by demand/supply shocks & >>> printing money. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 2:31 PM i erbs wrote: >>> >>>> Reason four >>>> Profiteering >>>> And yes it's happening >>>> >>>> Ira Erbs >>>> 1959 AH 100-6 >>>> 1967 MGB >>>> Milwaukie, OR >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:25 PM Alan Seigrist >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Usually inflation is caused by one of three things: >>>>> >>>>> 1. having restricted supply, >>>>> 2. increased demand, >>>>> 3. government printing lots of money. >>>>> >>>>> Coming out of COVID we have the trifecta... so greed doesn't really >>>>> factor into it because you always have greed in good economies and bad >>>>> economies. I won't get into the politics of why, just a 2-second economics >>>>> lesson. >>>>> >>>>> Incidentally my Econ 1 professor was Laura Tyson, who was President >>>>> Clinton's Chief Economic Advisor. I got an A in her class ?. If you can >>>>> believe it I also had Janet Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury in business >>>>> school, reference point #3 above ? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM i erbs via Healeys < >>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greed has no borders >>>>>> >>>>>> Ira Erbs >>>>>> 1959 AH 100-6 >>>>>> 1967 MGB >>>>>> Milwaukie, OR >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 10:48 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys < >>>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My understanding is that today?s inflation is a worldwide >>>>>>> phenomenon. I hope this is not being political. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Richard Mayor >>>>>>> boyracer466 at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys < >>>>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics >>>>>>> here... >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Alan >>>>>>> Seigrist via Healeys >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM >>>>>>> *To:* jomar healey >>>>>>> *Cc:* S and T Miller ; >>>>>>> healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about >>>>>>> inflation. ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys < >>>>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices >>>>>>> tend to be higher and it came to about $600 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via >>>>>>> Healeys wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I >>>>>>> might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had >>>>>>> machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I >>>>>>> paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and >>>>>>> consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. >>>>>>> Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, >>>>>>> freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm >>>>>>> assembling the engine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, >>>>>>> resurface, and assembly $510 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line >>>>>>> bore mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off >>>>>>> rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these >>>>>>> seem a bit inflated. When I Googled average costs, it seems high, but then >>>>>>> again, it's not a Chevy. >>>>>>> TY, Shawn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Millers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a >>>>>>> test drive." >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>> >>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Vaccum advance starts 7 Hg/in ends 18 Hg/in max degrees 12? For comparing with the 123 Ignition values you need to convert these into crankshaft degrees crankshaft rpm advance degrees crankshaft 600 0? 1200 4? 2500 18? 5000 34? This is for the BN1 distributor for a standard engine, not "M"-spec. This has different values. In case you bought the 123 Ignition which is set for British 4-cylinder cars (Code GB-4), then the closest curve setting of the 16 to choose, would be curve "F".You may loose some torque and horsepower compared to a well tuned and in good shape original LUCAS 40320 distributor. Better to use the 123 /Tune Version ignition, which is fully programmable. You can implement the correct original advance curves (centrifugal + vacuum) with the tune version. In case you go this way, the 123 TUNE with USB connection (Not the Bluetooth version) is the best way to go. I am working for a German supplier for British car parts and responsible for giving advice to iinstallation of electronic ignition systems and all other electrics. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: [Healeys] 100 ignition advance curve Datum: 2022-04-08T08:36:42+0200 Von: "Francis THIBAUD via Healeys" An: "healeys at autox.team.net" Hi, new contributor here, thanks for your help. Does anyone know where to find the BN1 Lucas distributor ignition advance curve ? I have fitted a 123 distributor, which has a choice of several preset advance curves, I would like to know the original Lucas curve to set the 123 as close as possible to the original. Thanks ! Francis THIBAUD -------- Message d'origine -------- Le 7 avr. 2022 ? 20:00, < healeys-request at autox.team.net> a ?crit : Send Healeys mailing list submissions to healeys at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to healeys-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at healeys-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal (Michael MacLean) 2. Re: Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? (rfbegani at gmail.com) 3. Re: Sticker stock- machine shop labor (Ricchardd Mayor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 12:09:39 -0700 From: Michael MacLean To: warthodson at aol.com, Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" OK, here are two PDFs that represent the instructions that came with the rubber seal bought from British Car Specialist. I followed these instructions to the letter. Maybe buying the seal from David made the difference too, but it worked. In addition I went to Home Depot and purchased a Wagner Furno 300 heat gun and used it on the high setting to heat and stretch the rubber at the ends to get the desired result you see in the picture. The instructions saved my dumba** from trying to slide the seal in from one side. The instructions show a much easier way that one person can accomplish on their own without help. The stretching and heating of the ends of the seal are much easier with an extra set of hands to hold the windscreen assembly while the other person does the heating and stretching. Good luck with yours. No financial interest, just a very satisfied customer. On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 10:55 AM warthodson--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Mike, > Would you post the instructions here? I will be installing the seal some > day & they sound very helpful. > Gary Hodson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael MacLean via Healeys > To: Ahealey help > Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 11:56 pm > Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal > > All done with the rubber seal installationat the bottom of my BN2 > windscreen. Asyou can see in the picture I must have done something > right. Both ends fit nice and tight against the curves. Thank you to all > the encouragement from the list, but special thanks to British Car > Specialists for the instruction sheets they included with the rubber I > bought from them. Would never have turned out so well without that > knowledge. Thanks Dave. > Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > Support > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > _______________________________________________ > Support > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Windscreen Instructions.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1461454 bytes Desc: not available URL: < > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Windscreen Instructions Handwritten.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 670563 bytes Desc: not available URL: < > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 07:48:14 -0400 From: To: "'Michael Salter'" , , Cc: "'Hermann Schaller'" , Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? Message-ID: <018401d848e3$09186780$1b493680$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks Mike I never seen David?s comment. Am going to replace the ground strap to the engine. My friend and my brother both having 35 years as mechanics suggested it. I did clean it but, After all it is 55 years young. Will keep you all informed. Bob From: Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:50 AM To: David Nock Cc: Robert Begani ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? I think David is absolutely correct. I would suggest taking the ground cable off the battery then use a battery jumper (booster) cable between the battery terminal and a good ground, something like a bumper mount, then try the starter. M On Mon., Apr. 4, 2022, 10:31 p.m. David Nock, > wrote: Bad connection at one of the battery cables or battery switch. Turn on the headlights and leave them on for about 15 minutes. Then go around and touch the battery and ground cable connections. You will find one that is warm. Voila there is your bad connection. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 < > Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. < > From: Bob Begani via Healeys Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:10 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? Listeners: You may recall my comments about the High Torque starter which would go zap and cause the entire electrical system to go dead. My two friends are much more knowledgeable than I and could not figure out why. Eventually I discovered if you take off the battery ground and leave it off for a few minutes, then reconnect, viola the electrical system comes alive again. The fuel pump hums, the lights go on, the horn blows. Unfortunately, when you engage the starter zap goes the starter. We took the starter off the car and bench tested it. We tested the positive cable from the battery solenoid, the ground, all connections and so on. Same problem. I got a new starter from WOSP and installed it. Same problem. The noise is always in the starter. We are stumped IDEAS?? Bob Begani BJ8 67. . _____ _______________________________________________ Support Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: _______________________________________________ Support Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 07:09:24 -0700 From: Ricchardd Mayor To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Cc: Alan Seigrist via Healeys , jomar healey , Alan Seigrist , S and T Miller Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor Message-ID: <5CC767D9-5411-4B3E-8282-2E2F5F8CAE0A at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" My understanding is that today?s inflation is a worldwide phenomenon. I hope this is not being political. Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com > On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote: > > Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics here... > From: Healeys on behalf of Alan Seigrist via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM > To: jomar healey > Cc: S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor > > I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about inflation. ? > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys > wrote: > I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend to be higher and it came to about $600 > > Joe > > On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys > wrote: > > > It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine. > > Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 > > Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, and assembly $510 > > Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 > > Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 > > Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 > > I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a bit inflated. 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It is an SU pump base Perry Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 8, 2022, at 1:06 PM, llennep--- via Healeys wrote: > > ? > Ray this is not SU pump right? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Juncal via Healeys > To: List Healey > Sent: Thu, Apr 7, 2022 11:32 pm > Subject: [Healeys] Fuel pumps > > Anyone out there have a box of fuel pump parts? I have a rebuilt pump with a bad mounting hole in the lower casting. As you can see in the photos the casting has been damaged when someone drove a bolt that was too long into the casting and broke it. If you have a pump that is beyond repair I could use that casting. 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Name: IMG_3119.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 27332 bytes Desc: not available URL: From josef-eckert at t-online.de Fri Apr 8 13:21:13 2022 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 21:21:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] 100 ignition advance curve In-Reply-To: <20220408.151423.23471.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> References: <20220408.151423.23471.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <1649445673490.377192.2b32f661335fefd8b4baa03ab54814a2b2b6eca7@spica.telekom.de> Doug, that?s right. 40320 was also in early BN2s , followed by 40495. Francis asked for distributor advance curves for the BN1. Josef -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 100 ignition advance curve Datum: 2022-04-08T21:16:24+0200 Von: "dwflagg at juno.com" An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" Hello Josef, Was not the 40320 also used on the early BN2? Doug Hello Francis, the BN1 LUCAS distributor 40320 has the following characteristics: distr rpm advance degrees start 300 600 2? 1250 9? 2500 17? Vaccum advance starts 7 Hg/in ends 18 Hg/in max degrees 12? For comparing with the 123 Ignition values you need to convert these into crankshaft degrees crankshaft rpm advance degrees crankshaft 600 0? 1200 4? 2500 18? 5000 34? This is for the BN1 distributor for a standard engine, not "M"-spec. This has different values. In case you bought the 123 Ignition which is set for British 4-cylinder cars (Code GB-4), then the closest curve setting of the 16 to choose, would be curve "F".You may loose some torque and horsepower compared to a well tuned and in good shape original LUCAS 40320 distributor. Better to use the 123 /Tune Version ignition, which is fully programmable. You can implement the correct original advance curves (centrifugal + vacuum) with the tune version. In case you go this way, the 123 TUNE with USB connection (Not the Bluetooth version) is the best way to go. I am working for a German supplier for British car parts and responsible for giving advice to iinstallation of electronic ignition systems and all other electrics. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: [Healeys] 100 ignition advance curve Datum: 2022-04-08T08:36:42+0200 Von: "Francis THIBAUD via Healeys" An: "healeys at autox.team.net" Hi, new contributor here, thanks for your help. Does anyone know where to find the BN1 Lucas distributor ignition advance curve ? I have fitted a 123 distributor, which has a choice of several preset advance curves, I would like to know the original Lucas curve to set the 123 as close as possible to the original. Thanks ! 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Re: Sticker stock- machine shop labor (Ricchardd Mayor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 12:09:39 -0700 From: Michael MacLean To: warthodson at aol.com, Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" OK, here are two PDFs that represent the instructions that came with the rubber seal bought from British Car Specialist. I followed these instructions to the letter. Maybe buying the seal from David made the difference too, but it worked. In addition I went to Home Depot and purchased a Wagner Furno 300 heat gun and used it on the high setting to heat and stretch the rubber at the ends to get the desired result you see in the picture. The instructions saved my dumba** from trying to slide the seal in from one side. The instructions show a much easier way that one person can accomplish on their own without help. The stretching and heating of the ends of the seal are much easier with an extra set of hands to hold the windscreen assembly while the other person does the heating and stretching. Good luck with yours. No financial interest, just a very satisfied customer. On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 10:55 AM warthodson--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Mike, > Would you post the instructions here? I will be installing the seal some > day & they sound very helpful. > Gary Hodson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael MacLean via Healeys > To: Ahealey help > Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 11:56 pm > Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Windscreen to body seal > > All done with the rubber seal installationat the bottom of my BN2 > windscreen. Asyou can see in the picture I must have done something > right. Both ends fit nice and tight against the curves. Thank you to all > the encouragement from the list, but special thanks to British Car > Specialists for the instruction sheets they included with the rubber I > bought from them. Would never have turned out so well without that > knowledge. Thanks Dave. > Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > Support > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > _______________________________________________ > Support > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Windscreen Instructions.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1461454 bytes Desc: not available URL: < > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Windscreen Instructions Handwritten.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 670563 bytes Desc: not available URL: < > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 07:48:14 -0400 From: To: "'Michael Salter'" , , Cc: "'Hermann Schaller'" , Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? Message-ID: <018401d848e3$09186780$1b493680$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks Mike I never seen David?s comment. Am going to replace the ground strap to the engine. My friend and my brother both having 35 years as mechanics suggested it. I did clean it but, After all it is 55 years young. Will keep you all informed. Bob From: Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:50 AM To: David Nock Cc: Robert Begani ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? I think David is absolutely correct. I would suggest taking the ground cable off the battery then use a battery jumper (booster) cable between the battery terminal and a good ground, something like a bumper mount, then try the starter. M On Mon., Apr. 4, 2022, 10:31 p.m. David Nock, > wrote: Bad connection at one of the battery cables or battery switch. Turn on the headlights and leave them on for about 15 minutes. Then go around and touch the battery and ground cable connections. You will find one that is warm. Voila there is your bad connection. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 < > Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. < > From: Bob Begani via Healeys Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:10 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins? Listeners: You may recall my comments about the High Torque starter which would go zap and cause the entire electrical system to go dead. My two friends are much more knowledgeable than I and could not figure out why. Eventually I discovered if you take off the battery ground and leave it off for a few minutes, then reconnect, viola the electrical system comes alive again. The fuel pump hums, the lights go on, the horn blows. Unfortunately, when you engage the starter zap goes the starter. We took the starter off the car and bench tested it. We tested the positive cable from the battery solenoid, the ground, all connections and so on. Same problem. I got a new starter from WOSP and installed it. Same problem. The noise is always in the starter. We are stumped IDEAS?? Bob Begani BJ8 67. . _____ _______________________________________________ Support Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: _______________________________________________ Support Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 07:09:24 -0700 From: Ricchardd Mayor To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Cc: Alan Seigrist via Healeys , jomar healey , Alan Seigrist , S and T Miller Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor Message-ID: <5CC767D9-5411-4B3E-8282-2E2F5F8CAE0A at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" My understanding is that today?s inflation is a worldwide phenomenon. I hope this is not being political. Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com > On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote: > > Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on those topics here... > From: Healeys on behalf of Alan Seigrist via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM > To: jomar healey > Cc: S and T Miller ; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor > > I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment about inflation. ? > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via Healeys > wrote: > I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North Jersey where prices tend to be higher and it came to about $600 > > Joe > > On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and T Miller via Healeys > wrote: > > > It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had work done at this particular shop and consider them the best around, so the quality of work isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine. > > Clean and machine stock flywheel $140 > > Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine seats/ guides, resurface, and assembly $510 > > Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260 > > Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for rear seal kit $580 > > Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve, bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675 > > I know this is a loaded question, and really just curious if these seem a bit inflated. 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Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 7:24 AM Bob Haskell via Healeys wrote: > Listers, > > I'm ready to make another batch of clutch bleeder extensions. Have made > one for the Toyota 5 speed conversion. Rather than guess how many to make > of each design, will make to order. Same price as before. > > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sat Apr 9 12:54:20 2022 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2022 14:54:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Bleeder Extension In-Reply-To: References: <8187ecd5-2961-f289-b116-c8625c122f5b@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <83678947-88dd-9cd8-990a-304ce0e4cffc@earthlink.net> Ira, That's what I've mocked up and believe that's what is supposed to be used. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 4/9/22 12:28 PM, i erbs wrote: > I still using my Healey slave on 5 spd... > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, OR > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 7:24 AM Bob Haskell via Healeys > wrote: > > Listers, > > I'm ready to make another batch of clutch bleeder extensions.? > Have made one for the Toyota 5 speed conversion.? Rather than > guess how many to make of each design, will make to order.? Same > price as before. > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sat Apr 9 13:00:24 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2022 12:00:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Bleeder Extension In-Reply-To: <83678947-88dd-9cd8-990a-304ce0e4cffc@earthlink.net> References: <8187ecd5-2961-f289-b116-c8625c122f5b@earthlink.net> <83678947-88dd-9cd8-990a-304ce0e4cffc@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I bought a used kit and it did not come with a slave, so I used my original. How is a Toyota one better if it is? Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 11:54 AM Bob Haskell wrote: > Ira, > > That's what I've mocked up and believe that's what is supposed to be used. > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > > On 4/9/22 12:28 PM, i erbs wrote: > > I still using my Healey slave on 5 spd... > > > > Ira Erbs > > 1959 AH 100-6 > > 1967 MGB > > Milwaukie, OR > > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 7:24 AM Bob Haskell via Healeys > > wrote: > > > > Listers, > > > > I'm ready to make another batch of clutch bleeder extensions. > > Have made one for the Toyota 5 speed conversion. Rather than > > guess how many to make of each design, will make to order. 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URL: From wjc3 at citlink.net Sun Apr 10 02:52:04 2022 From: wjc3 at citlink.net (john Conklin) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 08:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Bleeder Extension In-Reply-To: References: <8187ecd5-2961-f289-b116-c8625c122f5b@earthlink.net> <83678947-88dd-9cd8-990a-304ce0e4cffc@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1987059502.621769.1649580724440@mail.yahoo.com> test. john On Saturday, April 9, 2022, 03:01:36 PM EDT, i erbs via Healeys wrote: I bought a used kit and it did not come with a slave, so I used my original. How is a Toyota one better if it is? Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 11:54 AM Bob Haskell wrote: Ira, That's what I've mocked up and believe that's what is supposed to be used. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 4/9/22 12:28 PM, i erbs wrote: > I still using my Healey slave on 5 spd... > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, OR > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 7:24 AM Bob Haskell via Healeys > wrote: > >? ? ?Listers, > >? ? ?I'm ready to make another batch of clutch bleeder extensions.? >? ? ?Have made one for the Toyota 5 speed conversion.? Rather than >? ? ?guess how many to make of each design, will make to order.? Same >? ? ?price as before. > >? ? ?Cheers, > >? ? ?Bob Haskell >? ? ?Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > >? ? ?_______________________________________________ >? ? ?Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >? ? ?Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > >? ? ?Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >? ? ?http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > >? ? ?Healeys at autox.team.net >? ? ?http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >? ? ?Unsubscribe/Manage: >? ? ?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/wjc3 at citlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank You!!! john USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 05:21:48 2022 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 07:21:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Bleeder Extension In-Reply-To: References: <8187ecd5-2961-f289-b116-c8625c122f5b@earthlink.net> <83678947-88dd-9cd8-990a-304ce0e4cffc@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7888d815-86df-66f2-0764-e92506d715a8@earthlink.net> Ira, I'm a bit confused.? Are you wondering about fitting a Toyota slave cylinder to your car or did I mistakenly imply that I was using one to make the clutch bleeder extensions for the 5 speed conversion? The OEM Girling slave cylinder from a 6 cylinder Austin-Healey is what should be used with the Toyota 5 speed conversion when fitted to the 100 or the 6 cylinder cars per Smitty's instructions and that's what I mocked up to make the extensions. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 4/9/22 3:00 PM, i erbs wrote: > I bought a used kit and it did not come with a slave, so I used my > original. How is a Toyota one better if it is? > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, OR > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 11:54 AM Bob Haskell wrote: > > Ira, > > That's what I've mocked up and believe that's what is supposed to > be used. > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > > On 4/9/22 12:28 PM, i erbs wrote: > > I still using my Healey slave on 5 spd... > > > > Ira Erbs > > 1959 AH 100-6 > > 1967 MGB > > Milwaukie, OR > > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 7:24 AM Bob Haskell via Healeys > > wrote: > > > >? ? ?Listers, > > > >? ? ?I'm ready to make another batch of clutch bleeder extensions. > >? ? ?Have made one for the Toyota 5 speed conversion. Rather than > >? ? ?guess how many to make of each design, will make to order.? Same > >? ? ?price as before. > > > >? ? ?Cheers, > > > >? ? ?Bob Haskell > >? ? ?Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > > > >? ? ?_______________________________________________ > >? ? ?Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >? ? ?Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > > >? ? ?Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > >? ? ?Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > > From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Apr 10 09:23:36 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 08:23:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Toyota vs girling slave cyl Message-ID: As part of another thread, the topic of slave cly came up for the smitty conversion. I bought a used kit and it did not come with a slave cyl. Will I gain something by using the the Toyota unit? 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A83FE3F-88EA-4490-A33F-A5026645A85A@me.com> Rick, I show BN2L/228559. In the AH 100 Registry as having been owned by Ron Yates. No owners since have registered it. Randy Hicks AH 100 Registrar > On Apr 12, 2022, at 8:39 AM, HealeyRick via Healeys wrote: > > ? > This BN2 was recently sold at RM Sothebys in Ft. Lauderdale: https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/fl22/fort-lauderdale/lots/r0298-1955-austin-healey-100-4-bn2/1231957/additional The Heritage certificate was obtained by Ron. Does anyone know if he once owned the car? Still miss the Dipstick Digest. > > Rick Neville, aka "Healey Rick" > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at me.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyrik at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 08:48:32 2022 From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2022 10:48:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ron Yates 100? In-Reply-To: <5A83FE3F-88EA-4490-A33F-A5026645A85A@me.com> References: <5A83FE3F-88EA-4490-A33F-A5026645A85A@me.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Randy, Best regards, Rick R Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 9:06 AM Randall Hicks wrote: > Rick, I show BN2L/228559. In the AH 100 Registry as having been owned by > Ron Yates. No owners since have registered it. > > Randy Hicks > AH 100 Registrar > > On Apr 12, 2022, at 8:39 AM, HealeyRick via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > This BN2 was recently sold at RM Sothebys in Ft. Lauderdale: > https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/fl22/fort-lauderdale/lots/r0298-1955-austin-healey-100-4-bn2/1231957/additional > The Heritage certificate was obtained by Ron. Does anyone know if he once > owned the car? 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Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Well?this is interesting!! ? https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic Randy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 03:45:31 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:45:31 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later > brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! > > I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? > > Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link > > https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b > > Get Outlook for iOS > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Randall > Hicks via Healeys > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM > *To:* Healey List > *Subject:* [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > Well?this is interesting!! ? > > > https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic > > Randy > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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NO thanks, Peter On 13/04/2022 10:25, Randall Hicks via Healeys wrote: > Well?this is interesting!! ?? > > https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic > > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pdzwig at summaventures.com > -- Dr. Peter Dzwig From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Apr 13 09:55:53 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 08:55:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > Agreed.? It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that > amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys > wrote: > > What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, > later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door > handles! > > I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? > > Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link > https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b > > > Get Outlook for iOS > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of > Randall Hicks via Healeys > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM > *To:* Healey List > *Subject:* [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > Well?this is interesting!! ?? > > https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic > > Randy > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyrik at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 11:22:55 2022 From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 13:22:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree, Andy. DMH would have made Roger hide that grille in the plants at Earls Court, too! Rick Neville, aka "Healey Rick" Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 AM andy pole via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later > brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! > > I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? > > Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link > > https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b > > Get Outlook for iOS > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Randall > Hicks via Healeys > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM > *To:* Healey List > *Subject:* [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > Well?this is interesting!! ? > > > https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic > > Randy > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that >> amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alan >> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys >> wrote: >> >> What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, >> later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door >> handles! >> >> I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? >> >> Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link >> https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b >> >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Healeys on behalf of >> Randall Hicks via Healeys >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM >> *To:* Healey List >> *Subject:* [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 >> Well?this is interesting!! ?? >> >> https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic >> >> Randy >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Wed Apr 13 12:40:35 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 18:40:35 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= Message-ID: <893cad9e0d3199b722fe732d1ede7673da085443@webmail> Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the capper) Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys wrote: What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link [1]https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b [2] Get Outlook for iOS [3] ------------------------- FROM: Healeys on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys SENT: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM TO: Healey List SUBJECT: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Well?this is interesting!! ? [4]https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic [5] Randy Links: ------ [1] https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b [2] https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b [3] https://aka.ms/o0ukef [4] https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic [5] https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: complete 1.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 311583 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Healey-by-Caton-24.webp Type: image/webp Size: 18990 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Healey-by-Caton-11.webp Type: image/webp Size: 16156 bytes Desc: not available URL: From airtightproductions at me.com Wed Apr 13 13:00:29 2022 From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:00:29 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= In-Reply-To: <893cad9e0d3199b722fe732d1ede7673da085443@webmail> References: <893cad9e0d3199b722fe732d1ede7673da085443@webmail> Message-ID: <46ee6c05-2f23-44d5-94fa-c4dee45b638a@me.com> And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One up in the center would have been more in keeping with the original orientation of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are set 120 degrees apart.Oh well.?To each his own, but not for me.Steven KingsburyBN1?On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote:Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad 100 rather than a smiling one.? Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to accent the '50s style.? This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the capper) Hank-----------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell" To: healeys at autox.team.netCc: Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AMSubject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly.On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:Agreed.? It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. Cheers,AlanOn Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys wrote:What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles!?I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ?Also read it this morning in a Hagerty linkhttps://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122bGetOutlook for iOSFrom: Healeys on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AMTo: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 ?Well?this is interesting!! ??https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classicRandy_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britishauto at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 13:05:02 2022 From: britishauto at gmail.com (Jake V) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 15:05:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= In-Reply-To: <893cad9e0d3199b722fe732d1ede7673da085443@webmail> References: <893cad9e0d3199b722fe732d1ede7673da085443@webmail> Message-ID: Looks like they took their design cues from a Buick Enclave. [image: image.png] On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 2:42 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad > 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to > accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines > bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would > turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original > design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the > capper) Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect > handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. > > On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > > Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount > of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later >> brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! >> >> I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? >> >> Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link >> >> >> https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Randall >> Hicks via Healeys >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM >> *To:* Healey List >> *Subject:* [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 >> >> Well?this is interesting!! ? >> >> >> >> https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic >> >> Randy >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishauto at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 183292 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Wed Apr 13 13:15:09 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:15:09 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= Message-ID: <934581996c863a5908bdfaaf7816118c24acf9d6@webmail> I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey winged badge on the car, It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultants and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the name?Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Steven Kingsbury" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One up in the center would have been more in keeping with the original orientation of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are set 120 degrees apart. Oh well. To each his own, but not for me. Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the capper) Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys wrote: What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link [1] [2]https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b [3] GetOutlook for iOS [4] ------------------------- FROM: Healeys on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys SENT: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM TO: Healey List SUBJECT: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Well?this is interesting!! ? 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Rick Neville - aka Healey Rick Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:16 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey > winged badge on the car, It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultants > and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese > company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the > name?Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Steven Kingsbury" > To: gradea1 at charter.net > Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One up > in the center would have been more in keeping with the original orientation > of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are set 120 > degrees apart. > Oh well. > To each his own, but not for me. > Steven Kingsbury > BN1 > > On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad > 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to > accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines > bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would > turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original > design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the > capper) Hank > > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect > handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. > > On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > > Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount > of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later >> brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! >> >> I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? >> >> Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link >> >> >> >> https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b >> >> GetOutlook for iOS >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Randall >> Hicks via Healeys >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM >> *To:* Healey List >> *Subject:* [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 >> >> >> Well?this is interesting!! ? >> >> >> >> >> https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic >> >> Randy >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Wed Apr 13 13:53:32 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:53:32 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDAgcmlnaHRz?= Message-ID: <1e494c2d1407045f76c9645fb3a6ad2d88af7b47@webmail> Here is what I was able to discover about the AH namesake (from 2007): Nanjing Automobile Company, which bought the remnants of MG and in May resumed production of the MG TF in Longbridge, England, has signed a deal to use the Austin-Healey name. NAC's deal is with HFI Automotive, a U.S. company that bought Healey Automobile Consultants in January 2006 with its own plans to revive the marque. In February 2006, HFI said it would build a series of coupe and convertible sports cars with the "DNA of the 3000," plus a replacement for the Healey-Sprite. So, will NAC revive the Bugeye? So far, NAC isn't saying what it plans to do with the A-H name. The revived TF it's assembling in England is simply the aged "hairdresser's car" that Rover built there for years, and NAC's plans to assemble more sports cars for the US. market in Oklahoma have been on hold for months. But its purchase of the Healey naming rights from overly ambitious HFI proves that, these days, if you want to get a nascent automaker off the ground, plan to deal with one of China's many upstart companies. Current owner of the Caton is in UK, but has a division in the US: US OPERATIONS ENVISAGE GROUP DEVELOPMENTS INC. Inc. 41332 Christy St. Fremont, CA 94538, USA +1 510 996 5065 My understanding was that Nanjing "Owned" the AUSTIN name but NOT the Austin-Healey Marque. Here is their concept car entitled "Healey". Hank -----------------------------------------From: gradea1 at charter.net To: "Steven Kingsbury" Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:15:10PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey winged badge on the car, It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultants and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the name?Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Steven Kingsbury" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One up in the center would have been more in keeping with the original orientation of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are set 120 degrees apart. Oh well. To each his own, but not for me. Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original design..gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the capper) Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys wrote: What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link [1] [2] [3]https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b [4] GetOutlook for iOS [5] ------------------------- FROM: Healeys on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys SENT: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM TO: Healey List SUBJECT: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Well?this is interesting!! ? [6] [7] [8]https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic [9] Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net [10]http://www.team.net/donate.html [11] Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: [12]http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [13] [14]http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys [15] Healeys at autox.team.net [16]http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [17] Unsubscribe/Manage: [18]http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com [19] Links: ------ [1] https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b [2] https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b [3] https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b [4] https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b [5] https://aka.ms/o0ukef [6] https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic [7] https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic [8] https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic [9] https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic [10] http://www.team.net/donatehtml [11] http://www.team.net/donate.html [12] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [13] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [14] http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys [15] http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys [16] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [17] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [18] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com [19] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com > On Apr 13, 2022, at 10:41 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > This is a pretty big story. > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/alistaircharlton/2022/04/13/the-healey-by-caton-is-a-1950s-british-roadster-reimagined-for-2022/?sh=519405cf620f > > On 4/13/2022 8:55 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: >> That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. >> >> On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: >>> Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys > wrote: >>> What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! >>> >>> I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? >>> >>> Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link >>> https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b >>> >>> Get Outlook for iOS >>> From: Healeys > on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys > >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM >>> To: Healey List > >>> Subject: [Healeys] ?New? 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Healey 100 I read in one of the stories that they kept the 100 frame and I believe chassis number as well so it is probably "technically" still a Healey and entitled to carry the badge on the front. If the market is UK and Euro, it would probably be much easier to pass through all the regulations as an old Healey rather than a completely new car needing belts, air bag, bumpers, emissions, etc., etc., etc. I'll be saving my money for a 100S, thank you very much. I have as much chance of getting one of those as I do this bit of ugliness. Rick Neville - aka Healey Rick [1] Virus-free. www.avast.com [2] [3] On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:16 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey winged badge on the car, It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultants and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the name?Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Steven Kingsbury" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One up in the center would have been more in keeping with the original orientation of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are set 120 degrees apart. Oh well. To each his own, but not for me. Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the capper) Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys wrote: What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? 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URL: From healeyrik at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 14:49:04 2022 From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 16:49:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= In-Reply-To: <5bf4caf907205070b4175323fe51426cac96ae44@webmail> References: <5bf4caf907205070b4175323fe51426cac96ae44@webmail> Message-ID: Now I'm a bit confused, because I read elsewhere, JME builds them a frame. Then I remembered there are new US regs that allow for building a small amount of replicas that needn't meet all the current regs: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost Don't know how that would work in the UK and Europe, though. Here's a video on the car: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 4:05 PM wrote: > Rick-if that's so, then I wonder- does Envisage have 24 more Healey 100s > chassis in which to apply their half million dollar bodies? Maybe they are > Kilmartin or AH Spares frames, BUT then they need valid original chassis > plates. In the UK that is known as a "bitsa" car. Certainly not legal. Yea, > save your cash for an S. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "HealeyRick" > To: gradea1 at charter.net > Cc: "Steven Kingsbury", "healeys at autox.team.net" > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:52:41PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > I read in one of the stories that they kept the 100 frame and I believe > chassis number as well so it is probably "technically" still a Healey and > entitled to carry the badge on the front. If the market is UK and Euro, it > would probably be much easier to pass through all the regulations as an old > Healey rather than a completely new car needing belts, air bag, bumpers, > emissions, etc., etc., etc. > > I'll be saving my money for a 100S, thank you very much. I have as much > chance of getting one of those as I do this bit of ugliness. > > Rick Neville - aka Healey Rick > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > > <#m_-5152236979343722827_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:16 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey >> winged badge on the car, It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultants >> and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese >> company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the >> name?Hank >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> From: "Steven Kingsbury" >> To: gradea1 at charter.net >> Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" >> Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 >> >> And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One >> up in the center would have been more in keeping with the original >> orientation of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are >> set 120 degrees apart. >> Oh well. >> To each his own, but not for me. >> Steven Kingsbury >> BN1 >> >> On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad >> 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to >> accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines >> bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would >> turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original >> design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the >> capper) Hank >> >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> From: "Bob Spidell" >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Cc: >> Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 >> >> That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect >> handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. >> >> On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: >> >> Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that >> amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alan >> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later >>> brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! >>> >>> I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? >>> >>> Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b >>> >>> GetOutlook for iOS >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Randall >>> Hicks via Healeys >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM >>> *To:* Healey List >>> *Subject:* [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 >>> >>> >>> Well?this is interesting!! ? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 4/13/22 5:25 AM, Randall Hicks via Healeys wrote: > Well?this is interesting!! ?? > > https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From eyera3000 at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 14:52:13 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 13:52:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDAgcmlnaHRz?= In-Reply-To: <1e494c2d1407045f76c9645fb3a6ad2d88af7b47@webmail> References: <1e494c2d1407045f76c9645fb3a6ad2d88af7b47@webmail> Message-ID: Great looking car. Price is big Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Wed, Apr 13, 2022, 12:54 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Here is what I was able to discover about the AH namesake (from 2007): > > Nanjing Automobile Company, which bought the remnants of MG and in May > resumed production of the MG TF in Longbridge, England, has signed a deal > to use the Austin-Healey name. NAC's deal is with HFI Automotive, a U.S. > company that bought Healey Automobile Consultants in January 2006 with its > own plans to revive the marque. > > In February 2006, HFI said it would build a series of coupe and > convertible sports cars with the "DNA of the 3000," plus a replacement for > the Healey-Sprite. > > So, will NAC revive the Bugeye? So far, NAC isn't saying what it plans to > do with the A-H name. The revived TF it's assembling in England is simply > the aged "hairdresser's car" that Rover built there for years, and NAC's > plans to assemble more sports cars for the U.S. market in Oklahoma have > been on hold for months. But its purchase of the Healey naming rights from > overly ambitious HFI proves that, these days, if you want to get a nascent > automaker off the ground, plan to deal with one of China's many upstart > companies. > > > Current owner of the Caton is in UK, but has a division in the US: > US Operations > > *Envisage Group Developments Inc.* > Inc. 41332 Christy St. Fremont, CA 94538, USA > > +1 510 996 5065 > > My understanding was that Nanjing "Owned" the AUSTIN name but *not *the > Austin-Healey Marque. Here is their concept car entitled "Healey". Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: gradea1 at charter.net > To: "Steven Kingsbury" > Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:15:10PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey > winged badge on the car, It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultants > and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese > company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the > name?Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Steven Kingsbury" > To: gradea1 at charter.net > Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One up > in the center would have been more in keeping with the original orientation > of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are set 120 > degrees apart. > Oh well. > To each his own, but not for me. > Steven Kingsbury > BN1 > > On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad > 100 rather than a smiling one Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to > accent the '50s style This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines > bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would > turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original > design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the > capper) Hank > > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect > handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. > > On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > > Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount > of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later >> brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! >> >> I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? >> >> Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link >> >> >> >> >> https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b >> >> GetOutlook for iOS >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Healeys on behalf of Randall >> Hicks via Healeys >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM >> *To:* Healey List >> *Subject:* [Healeys] ?New? 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URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 14:53:47 2022 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 20:53:47 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= In-Reply-To: References: <5bf4caf907205070b4175323fe51426cac96ae44@webmail> Message-ID: Just spent 10 days in the UK, actually still here, going home tomorrow,I can tell you for certainty that after having visited most of the Austin-Healey suppliers Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of HealeyRick via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 9:49:04 PM To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net ; Steven Kingsbury Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Now I'm a bit confused, because I read elsewhere, JME builds them a frame. Then I remembered there are new US regs that allow for building a small amount of replicas that needn't meet all the current regs: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost Don't know how that would work in the UK and Europe, though. Here's a video on the car: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 4:05 PM > wrote: Rick-if that's so, then I wonder- does Envisage have 24 more Healey 100s chassis in which to apply their half million dollar bodies? Maybe they are Kilmartin or AH Spares frames, BUT then they need valid original chassis plates. In the UK that is known as a "bitsa" car. Certainly not legal. Yea, save your cash for an S. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "HealeyRick" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Steven Kingsbury", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:52:41PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 I read in one of the stories that they kept the 100 frame and I believe chassis number as well so it is probably "technically" still a Healey and entitled to carry the badge on the front. If the market is UK and Euro, it would probably be much easier to pass through all the regulations as an old Healey rather than a completely new car needing belts, air bag, bumpers, emissions, etc., etc., etc. I'll be saving my money for a 100S, thank you very much. I have as much chance of getting one of those as I do this bit of ugliness. Rick Neville - aka Healey Rick [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:16 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey winged badge on the car, It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultants and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the name?Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Steven Kingsbury" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One up in the center would have been more in keeping with the original orientation of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are set 120 degrees apart. Oh well. To each his own, but not for me. Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the capper) Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys wrote: What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b GetOutlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Well?this is interesting!! ? https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 15:02:03 2022 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 21:02:03 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= In-Reply-To: References: <5bf4caf907205070b4175323fe51426cac96ae44@webmail> Message-ID: and a few of the larger restoration places, Concourse AZ we know it in NA is not important or nowhere near as important, the owners here are all about driving and modifications are simply a matter of the owner's taste and many cars I saw and looked at closely are set up for rallying or fast touring. Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Jean Caron via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 9:53:47 PM To: HealeyRick ; gradea1 at charter.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net ; Steven Kingsbury Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Just spent 10 days in the UK, actually still here, going home tomorrow,I can tell you for certainty that after having visited most of the Austin-Healey suppliers Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of HealeyRick via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 9:49:04 PM To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net ; Steven Kingsbury Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Now I'm a bit confused, because I read elsewhere, JME builds them a frame. Then I remembered there are new US regs that allow for building a small amount of replicas that needn't meet all the current regs: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost Don't know how that would work in the UK and Europe, though. Here's a video on the car: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 4:05 PM > wrote: Rick-if that's so, then I wonder- does Envisage have 24 more Healey 100s chassis in which to apply their half million dollar bodies? Maybe they are Kilmartin or AH Spares frames, BUT then they need valid original chassis plates. In the UK that is known as a "bitsa" car. Certainly not legal. Yea, save your cash for an S. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "HealeyRick" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Steven Kingsbury", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:52:41PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 I read in one of the stories that they kept the 100 frame and I believe chassis number as well so it is probably "technically" still a Healey and entitled to carry the badge on the front. If the market is UK and Euro, it would probably be much easier to pass through all the regulations as an old Healey rather than a completely new car needing belts, air bag, bumpers, emissions, etc., etc., etc. I'll be saving my money for a 100S, thank you very much. I have as much chance of getting one of those as I do this bit of ugliness. Rick Neville - aka Healey Rick [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:16 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey winged badge on the car, It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultants and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the name?Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Steven Kingsbury" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One up in the center would have been more in keeping with the original orientation of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are set 120 degrees apart. Oh well. To each his own, but not for me. Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the capper) Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys wrote: What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b GetOutlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Well?this is interesting!! ? https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 15:04:37 2022 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 21:04:37 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= In-Reply-To: References: <5bf4caf907205070b4175323fe51426cac96ae44@webmail> Message-ID: Sorry for the two parts email, typing from my phone and hit the send button too soon on the first part. Jean Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Jean Caron Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:02:03 PM To: HealeyRick ; gradea1 at charter.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net ; Steven Kingsbury Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 and a few of the larger restoration places, Concourse AZ we know it in NA is not important or nowhere near as important, the owners here are all about driving and modifications are simply a matter of the owner's taste and many cars I saw and looked at closely are set up for rallying or fast touring. Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Jean Caron via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 9:53:47 PM To: HealeyRick ; gradea1 at charter.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net ; Steven Kingsbury Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Just spent 10 days in the UK, actually still here, going home tomorrow,I can tell you for certainty that after having visited most of the Austin-Healey suppliers Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of HealeyRick via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 9:49:04 PM To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net ; Steven Kingsbury Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Now I'm a bit confused, because I read elsewhere, JME builds them a frame. Then I remembered there are new US regs that allow for building a small amount of replicas that needn't meet all the current regs: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost Don't know how that would work in the UK and Europe, though. Here's a video on the car: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 4:05 PM > wrote: Rick-if that's so, then I wonder- does Envisage have 24 more Healey 100s chassis in which to apply their half million dollar bodies? Maybe they are Kilmartin or AH Spares frames, BUT then they need valid original chassis plates. In the UK that is known as a "bitsa" car. Certainly not legal. Yea, save your cash for an S. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "HealeyRick" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Steven Kingsbury", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:52:41PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 I read in one of the stories that they kept the 100 frame and I believe chassis number as well so it is probably "technically" still a Healey and entitled to carry the badge on the front. If the market is UK and Euro, it would probably be much easier to pass through all the regulations as an old Healey rather than a completely new car needing belts, air bag, bumpers, emissions, etc., etc., etc. I'll be saving my money for a 100S, thank you very much. I have as much chance of getting one of those as I do this bit of ugliness. Rick Neville - aka Healey Rick [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:16 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey winged badge on the car, It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultants and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the name?Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Steven Kingsbury" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One up in the center would have been more in keeping with the original orientation of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are set 120 degrees apart. Oh well. To each his own, but not for me. Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the capper) Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys wrote: What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b GetOutlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Well?this is interesting!! ? https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed Apr 13 17:55:50 2022 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:55:50 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Caton Bumpers??? In-Reply-To: <00ad01d84f73$17edbf80$47c93e80$@gmail.com> References: <00ad01d84f73$17edbf80$47c93e80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00d801d84f92$0cfc7200$26f55600$@tpg.com.au> Hello >From my reading each new (?) car starts with a donor vehicle which can be assumed comes with a chassis number. All of which means that essentially it won't be a new car, but a rebuilt 1950's vehicle. Meaning that certification, except for roadworthiness will not be required. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn From: Healeys On Behalf Of rfbegani at gmail.com Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2022 6:15 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Caton Bumpers??? I have looked and do not see bumpers, nor does it look as if it has collapsible plastic covering the steel absorbing frame on front or rear. Nor is there any mention of such safety features. What country will certify it for the road? Not in the USA or EU etc. Bob Begani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed Apr 13 17:57:38 2022 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:57:38 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?Rlc6ICDigJxOZXfigJ0gSGVhbGV5IDEwMA==?= References: Message-ID: <00dd01d84f92$4d89ddd0$e89d9970$@tpg.com.au> Hello Yes Roger wouldn?t have allowed that terrible grille to be displayed at all. It looks like it?s from late 1950?s plastic child?s toy. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys > On Behalf Of HealeyRick via Healeys Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2022 3:23 AM To: andy pole > Cc: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 I agree, Andy. DMH would have made Roger hide that grille in the plants at Earls Court, too! Rick Neville, aka "Healey Rick" Virus-free. www.avast.com On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 AM andy pole via Healeys > wrote: What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC &utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b Get Outlook for iOS _____ From: Healeys > on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Well?this is interesting!! ? https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic Randy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Wed Apr 13 18:14:32 2022 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (greylinn at ozemail.com.au) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 10:14:32 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?they didn?t have to delete the door handles ? they didn?t have them to start with! From: Healeys On Behalf Of andy pole via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2022 7:36 PM To: Randall Hicks ; Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC &utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b Get Outlook for iOS _____ From: Healeys > on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Well?this is interesting!! ? https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic Randy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 18:54:41 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 08:54:41 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: LOL true. To be honest there's nothing more satisfactory than pulling the door cable... it's is almost like being a kid on a Bedford bus pulling the bell so the driver knows to stop. Cheers, Alan On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 8:15 AM greylinn--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > ?they didn?t have to delete the door handles ? they didn?t have them to > start with! > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *andy pole > via Healeys > *Sent:* Wednesday, 13 April 2022 7:36 PM > *To:* Randall Hicks ; Healey List < > healeys at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > > > What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later > brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! > > > > I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? > > > > Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link > > > https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b > > > > Get Outlook for iOS > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Randall > Hicks via Healeys > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM > *To:* Healey List > *Subject:* [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > > > Well?this is interesting!! ? > > > > > https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic > > > > Randy > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Thu Apr 14 02:53:04 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:53:04 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Caton Bumpers??? In-Reply-To: <00d801d84f92$0cfc7200$26f55600$@tpg.com.au> References: <00ad01d84f73$17edbf80$47c93e80$@gmail.com> <00d801d84f92$0cfc7200$26f55600$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <000001d84fdd$0eda3da0$2c8eb8e0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Further to this, below,.assuming that it has a chassis number etc going back to its days as a factory car, it won't need certification at all. Not as I understand it anyhow. (I'm talking of the UK here.) For reasons which escape me, the owners of cars over a certain age can go onto the Govt. website and basically opt out of the annual MOT scheme. (Ministry of Transport test). So...these things, and I use the word advisedly, wouldn't be tested at all. Seems counter-intuitive to me..the older a car, the more it needs testing? Apparently, we classic owners are deemed to be the types who so love their old bangers that they are maintained as road worthy in every respect! (Personally, I've always thought that this opting out is a bit weird. Our cars are pretty simple and 90% of the items on the test list don't apply. But, I always liked to see the car up on a ramp and have a poke and a pull at everything underneath thus revealed. And also,,,,things like brakes or steering...one could get used to a gradual drop in their efficiency and thus ignore it. Good to see their performance in black and white on a meter?) Simon Hello >From my reading each new (?) car starts with a donor vehicle which can be assumed comes with a chassis number. All of which means that essentially it won't be a new car, but a rebuilt 1950's vehicle. Meaning that certification, except for roadworthiness will not be required. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn From: Healeys > On Behalf Of rfbegani at gmail.com Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2022 6:15 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Caton Bumpers??? I have looked and do not see bumpers, nor does it look as if it has collapsible plastic covering the steel absorbing frame on front or rear. Nor is there any mention of such safety features. What country will certify it for the road? Not in the USA or EU etc. Bob Begani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Apr 14 10:14:38 2022 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:14:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Barrel Message-ID: Listers, Does anyone have a spare Lucas ignition barrel "*FP 732*" that they are willing to sell. I have several spares, FP 638 and FA 592 (my BN1), but not this letter/number variant. It's for a Concours BN2 restoration. We already have NOS keys from Pete Groh. Cheers, Curt Arndt Carlsbad, CA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britishauto at gmail.com Thu Apr 14 10:26:40 2022 From: britishauto at gmail.com (Jake V) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 12:26:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Barrel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry, just FP646 (2X), FP650, and FP731. On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 12:15 PM Curtis Arndt via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Listers, > > Does anyone have a spare Lucas ignition barrel "*FP 732*" that they are > willing to sell. I have several spares, FP 638 and FA 592 (my BN1), but not > this letter/number variant. > > It's for a Concours BN2 restoration. We already have NOS keys from Pete > Groh. > > Cheers, > > Curt Arndt > Carlsbad, CA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishauto at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Thu Apr 14 11:48:10 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 13:48:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Barrel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <643D24C3-DB26-4E54-9BC6-2D6832E59326@aol.com> Curt I?ll look when I get home, couple hours or so. Perry Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2022, at 12:28 PM, Jake V wrote: > > ? > Sorry, just FP646 (2X), FP650, and FP731. > >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 12:15 PM Curtis Arndt via Healeys wrote: >> Listers, >> >> Does anyone have a spare Lucas ignition barrel "FP 732" that they are willing to sell. I have several spares, FP 638 and FA 592 (my BN1), but not this letter/number variant. >> >> It's for a Concours BN2 restoration. We already have NOS keys from Pete Groh. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Curt Arndt >> Carlsbad, CA >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishauto at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lawrence.swift at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 14:57:51 2022 From: lawrence.swift at gmail.com (Team.net) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 16:57:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= In-Reply-To: References: <5bf4caf907205070b4175323fe51426cac96ae44@webmail> Message-ID: <13E54AD1-6DEA-4BE9-BC1D-67774A025299@gmail.com> What is the rest of the story? > On Apr 13, 2022, at 4:53 PM, Jean Caron via Healeys wrote: > > Just spent 10 days in the UK, actually still here, going home tomorrow,I can tell you for certainty that after having visited most of the Austin-Healey suppliers > > Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. > From: Healeys on behalf of HealeyRick via Healeys > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 9:49:04 PM > To: gradea1 at charter.net > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net ; Steven Kingsbury > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > Now I'm a bit confused, because I read elsewhere, JME builds them a frame. Then I remembered there are new US regs that allow for building a small amount of replicas that needn't meet all the current regs: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost Don't know how that would work in the UK and Europe, though. > > Here's a video on the car: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 4:05 PM > wrote: > Rick-if that's so, then I wonder- does Envisage have 24 more Healey 100s chassis in which to apply their half million dollar bodies? Maybe they are Kilmartin or AH Spares frames, BUT then they need valid original chassis plates. In the UK that is known as a "bitsa" car. Certainly not legal. Yea, save your cash for an S. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "HealeyRick" > To: gradea1 at charter.net > Cc: "Steven Kingsbury", "healeys at autox.team.net " > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:52:41PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > I read in one of the stories that they kept the 100 frame and I believe chassis number as well so it is probably "technically" still a Healey and entitled to carry the badge on the front. If the market is UK and Euro, it would probably be much easier to pass through all the regulations as an old Healey rather than a completely new car needing belts, air bag, bumpers, emissions, etc., etc., etc. > > I'll be saving my money for a 100S, thank you very much. I have as much chance of getting one of those as I do this bit of ugliness. > > Rick Neville - aka Healey Rick > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:16 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys > wrote: > I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey winged badge on the car, It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultants and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the name?Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Steven Kingsbury" > To: gradea1 at charter.net <> > Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net <>" > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One up in the center would have been more in keeping with the original orientation of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are set 120 degrees apart. > Oh well. > To each his own, but not for me. > Steven Kingsbury > BN1 > > On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys > wrote: > > > Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the capper) Hank > > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: healeys at autox.team.net <> > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. > > On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys > wrote: > What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! > > I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? > > Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link > https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b > > GetOutlook for iOS > > From: Healeys > on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys > > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM > To: Healey List > > Subject: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > > Well?this is interesting!! ? > > https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic > > Randy > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net <> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net <> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lawrence.swift at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 11:42 Team.net via Healeys wrote: > What is the rest of the story? > > On Apr 13, 2022, at 4:53 PM, Jean Caron via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Just spent 10 days in the UK, actually still here, going home tomorrow,I > can tell you for certainty that after having visited most of the > Austin-Healey suppliers > > Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of HealeyRick > via Healeys > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2022 9:49:04 PM > *To:* gradea1 at charter.net > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net ; Steven Kingsbury < > airtightproductions at me.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > Now I'm a bit confused, because I read elsewhere, JME builds them a > frame. Then I remembered there are new US regs that allow for building a > small amount of replicas that needn't meet all the current regs: > https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost > > Don't know how that would work in the UK and Europe, though. > > Here's a video on the car: > https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost > > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 4:05 PM wrote: > > Rick-if that's so, then I wonder- does Envisage have 24 more Healey 100s > chassis in which to apply their half million dollar bodies? Maybe they are > Kilmartin or AH Spares frames, BUT then they need valid original chassis > plates. In the UK that is known as a "bitsa" car. Certainly not legal. Yea, > save your cash for an S. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "HealeyRick" > To: gradea1 at charter.net > Cc: "Steven Kingsbury", "healeys at autox.team.net" > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:52:41PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > I read in one of the stories that they kept the 100 frame and I believe > chassis number as well so it is probably "technically" still a Healey and > entitled to carry the badge on the front. If the market is UK and Euro, it > would probably be much easier to pass through all the regulations as an old > Healey rather than a completely new car needing belts, air bag, bumpers, > emissions, etc., etc., etc. > > I'll be saving my money for a 100S, thank you very much. I have as much > chance of getting one of those as I do this bit of ugliness. > > Rick Neville - aka Healey Rick > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:16 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey > winged badge on the car, It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultants > and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese > company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the > name?Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Steven Kingsbury" > To: gradea1 at charter.net > Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One up > in the center would have been more in keeping with the original orientation > of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are set 120 > degrees apart. > Oh well. > To each his own, but not for me. > Steven Kingsbury > BN1 > > On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad > 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to > accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines > bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would > turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original > design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the > capper) Hank > > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect > handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. > > On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > > Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount > of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later > brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! > > I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? > > Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link > > > > > https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b > > > GetOutlook for iOS > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Randall > Hicks via Healeys > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM > *To:* Healey List > *Subject:* [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 > > > Well?this is interesting!! ? > > > > > > https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic > > > Randy > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net > > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > > http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net > > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > > http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lawrence.swift at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sshadle at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Fri Apr 15 18:44:15 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 00:44:15 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?b?4oCcTmV34oCdIEhlYWxleSAxMDA=?= Message-ID: <21d781203f71c94ee0ffb20b33220a6c479f26d1@webmail> Wait a minute Sid, what's old is new! I'm afraid you will have to eat those words. Here is an ad from 1957 which must have been the inspiration for the "new Healey". Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Sid Shadle via Healeys" To: "Team.net" Cc: "Ahealey help", "Steven Kingsbury" Sent: Friday April 15 2022 1:26:59PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 In the front view it looks like some weird, cartoon fish - no thanks, it ain't a Healey!!! On Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 11:42 Team.net via Healeys wrote: What is the rest of the story? On Apr 13, 2022, at 4:53 PM, Jean Caron via Healeys wrote: Just spent 10 days in the UK, actually still here, going home tomorrow,I can tell you for certainty that after having visited most of the Austin-Healey suppliers Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. ------------------------- FROM: Healeys on behalf of HealeyRick via Healeys SENT: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 9:49:04 PM TO: gradea1 at charter.net CC: healeys at autox.team.net ; Steven Kingsbury SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Now I'm a bit confused, because I read elsewhere, JME builds them a frame. Then I remembered there are new US regs that allow for building a small amount of replicas that needn't meet all the current regs: [1]https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost [2] Don't know how that would work in the UK and Europe, though. Here's a video on the car: [3]https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost [4] [5] Virus-free. www.avast.com [6] On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 4:05 PM wrote: Rick-if that's so, then I wonder- does Envisage have 24 more Healey 100s chassis in which to apply their half million dollar bodies? Maybe they are Kilmartin or AH Spares frames, BUT then they need valid original chassis plates. In the UK that is known as a "bitsa" car. Certainly not legal. Yea, save your cash for an S. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "HealeyRick" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Steven Kingsbury", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:52:41PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 I read in one of the stories that they kept the 100 frame and I believe chassis number as well so it is probably "technically" still a Healey and entitled to carry the badge on the front. If the market is UK and Euro, it would probably be much easier to pass through all the regulations as an old Healey rather than a completely new car needing belts, air bag, bumpers, emissions, etc., etc., etc. I'll be saving my money for a 100S, thank you very much. I have as much chance of getting one of those as I do this bit of ugliness. Rick Neville - aka Healey Rick [7] Virus-free. www.avast.com [8] On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:16 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey winged badge on the car, It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultants and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the name?Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Steven Kingsbury" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One up in the center would have been more in keeping with the original orientation of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' are set 120 degrees apart. Oh well. To each his own, but not for me. Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sad 100 rather than a smiling one. Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to accent the '50s style. This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engines bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the capper) Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly. On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: Agreed. It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get. Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys wrote: What a load of rubbish ?400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes, suspension and a teenager let?s delete the door handles! I can do it for ?350k if anyone is that stupid! ? Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link [9] [10] [11] [12]https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&hashed_email=9b083a3970aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b [13] GetOutlook for iOS [14] ------------------------- FROM: Healeys on behalf of Randall Hicks via Healeys SENT: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM TO: Healey List SUBJECT: [Healeys] ?New? Healey 100 Well?this is interesting!! ? 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 10:40:26 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:40:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > Quick Q - > > If looking at the tap from the top, is it closed with the lever in the > full counterclockwise position, or the full clockwise positiom? > > Happy Easter & > Happy Passover! > > Cheers, > > Alan > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: heatervalve.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 895678 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 10:43:17 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:43:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push it in and out a few times may help loosen it. On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > Quick Q - > > If looking at the tap from the top, is it closed with the lever in the > full counterclockwise position, or the full clockwise positiom? > > Happy Easter & > Happy Passover! > > Cheers, > > Alan > From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sat Apr 16 10:56:51 2022 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:56:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the counterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the lever at the 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always been that way. In US plumbing the heat would be off with the lever perpendicular to the hose and valve. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push it in and out a few times may help loosen it. On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > Quick Q - > > If looking at the tap from the top, is it closed with the lever in the > full counterclockwise position, or the full clockwise positiom? > > Happy Easter & > Happy Passover! > > Cheers, > > Alan > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sat Apr 16 11:02:27 2022 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 17:02:27 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Your photo made me check. It actuall does say off and on the valve. Still the lever seems ot be half way between off and on. I have learned not to fix anything that is working. So, 7:30 it is until it starts leaking someday. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Richard Kahn Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:56 AM To: Bob Spidell ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Did I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the counterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the lever at the 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always been that way. In US plumbing the heat would be off with the lever perpendicular to the hose and valve. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push it in and out a few times may help loosen it. On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > Quick Q - > > If looking at the tap from the top, is it closed with the lever in the > full counterclockwise position, or the full clockwise positiom? > > Happy Easter & > Happy Passover! > > Cheers, > > Alan > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sat Apr 16 11:19:25 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 18:19:25 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. Message-ID: <000a01d851b6$20733af0$6159b0d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some inspired advice. A bit of background first. I?ll try to lay out all the facts in a logical sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant to link ODs with logic!) 1. I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a total rebuild by Overdrive Spares here in UK. 2. The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted out by OD Spares. The accumulator was uprated and pressure issues sorted. 3. OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to take it out since then until.. 4. One day, the OD stopped functioning. 5. I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a bit deeper. 6. It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? 7. That did not fix the problem so? 8. I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might be off so.. 9. I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out precisely rather than by ?feel?, which I lack in this area. 10. Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD was functioning at all so I raised the car on stands and fitted my pressure gauge. 11. I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the engine but I?d suppose that would drop when the oil warms up. 12. BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving the little lever on the RHS up and down does not engage/disengage OD. There is no change on the gauge to show OD engaging or disengaging. 13. AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is off. Moving the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed at 500 overnight! 14. Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve area. None. 15. Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve - operating? (the spindle thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s clear. And surely, the pressure would diminish overnight if something in that area was partially obstructed? 16. When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small spillage - no more than you?d expect - but repeating the pressure gauge process only returns the same results. 17. I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that ?Holding this lever with your thumb and index finger, you should be able to push the lever down lightly about ?? until you feel a slight spring pressure resistance. The lever should go down another ?? after encountering the resistance??? ie there?s about ?? movement up & down in that lever. Well, my lever does move and does lift the ball, but there?s not ?? movement there. Could that be the problem area??? 18. Almost finished?keep reading! So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about the OD, it has a new trick to baffle me. I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD and stuck there or whether it?s simply not going into OD at all. I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection of advice from the various gurus and found reference to ODs being stuck but those seemed to be to do with ?weak springs? which, particularly after a long lay-off, wouldn?t disengage. The cure for this being a good smack on the steel plate sandwiched in the OD from below. Well, that seems to be a stuck mechanism issue whereas I?m facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure relief valve? adjacent to the accumulator. The name suggested that pressure might be stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox and OD out. You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the defective clutch kit? Well, I forget whether we had the box in and out 3 times or 4. I?d hoped not to do it again so soon or ever for that matter. I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice would be a godsend???? Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 13:31:03 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 12:31:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss Message-ID: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings: https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045 From gradea1 at charter.net Sat Apr 16 13:39:01 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 19:39:01 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: RE: Overdrive pressure not releasing. Message-ID: <12e3af8b83e2bd4bb8cbbb24a260c32e486ee30e@webmail> One other thing you could do before having to yank out the unit. Drain the oil, remove the operating valve, and the relief valve, and blow some air from the plug fitting using a rubber tipped blow gun, throughout the unit. It may make an oil mess, but not as much a mess as having to pull the transmission. This might possibly dislodge any debris blockage in the passages. If you reuse the same oil, strain it thru a good sieve and look for debris. Then be especially careful when refilling the gearbox and OD as to not get any dirt into the opening. Be sure to check the screen and clean it with kerosene (paraffin) upon assembly. Hank -----------------------------------------From: gradea1 at charter.net To: "simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com" Cc: Sent: Saturday April 16 2022 12:12:34PM Subject: RE: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. Hi Simon- I'm sure you read and re-read the chapter G pg. 5 paragraphs in the service manual. The fact that you have 500lbs of pressure is good, but then the notation of the pressure not releasing, indicates some kind of blockage in the oil passages that will not let the pressure drain. Of course, dirt is the most common culprit. That is also why the book suggests lintless rags...the smallest amount of debris can plug up these tiny drillings and prevent pressure from draining. One rebuilder I discuss these finicky ODs with, suggests enlarging the drain hole in the operating valve body to 1mm. The other key item to check is the two relief valve springs (ill. 16 & 56 on plate G2). If reversed they will cause havoc with the pressure drain. If the accumulator is stuck-not moving-it will hold the pressure as it must move past a small drilling in the body to release it. That is a physical issue with the O-rings, or piston rings in that bore. Actually, removing the plug from the operating valve with 500 lbs of pressure should have shot out the spring, ball and shaft. Since it dribbled out, the blockage must be further down the pike. Operating the lever multiple times before removing the plug is to meant release that pressure. If it has 500 lbs. of pressure, it is in OD! That pressure pushes the two pistons (#11) toward the front of the trans compressing the 8 clutch springs and placing the clutch facing into contact with the sun gear. Trusting that OD spares properly reassembled the unit would be most logical, but maybe not. I think the answer is still with them, and unfortunately you would have to bring them the unit (5th pull!) The problem does not appear to be electrics/adjustment related. Regards, Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Simon Lachlan via Healeys" To: "Healeys" Cc: Sent: Saturday April 16 2022 10:20:09AM Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some inspired advice. A bit of background first. I?ll try to lay out all the facts in a logical sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant to link ODs with logic!) * I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a total rebuild by Overdrive Spares here in UK. * The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted out by OD Spares. The accumulator was uprated and pressure issues sorted. * OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to take it out since then until.. * One day, the OD stopped functioning. * I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a bit deeper. * It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? * That did not fix the problem so? * I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might be off so.. * I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out precisely rather than by ?feel?, which I lack in this area. * Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD was functioning at all so I raised the car on stands and fitted my pressure gauge. * I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the engine but I?d suppose that would drop when the oil warms up. * BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving the little lever on the RHS up and down does not engage/disengage OD. There is no change on the gauge to show OD engaging or disengaging. * AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is off. Moving the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed at 500 overnight! * Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve area. None. * Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? operating? (the spindle thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s clear. And surely, the pressure would diminish overnight if something in that area was partially obstructed? * When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small spillage ? no more than you?d expect ? but repeating the pressure gauge process only returns the same results. * I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that ?Holding this lever with your thumb and index finger, you should be able to push the lever down lightly about ?? until you feel a slight spring pressure resistance. The lever should go down another ?? after encountering the resistance??? ie there?s about ?? movement up & down in that lever. Well, my lever does move and does lift the ball, but there?s not ?? movement there. Could that be the problem area??? * Almost finished?keep reading! So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about the OD, it has a new trick to baffle me. I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD and stuck there or whether it?s simply not going into OD at all. I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection of advice from the various gurus and found reference to ODs being stuck but those seemed to be to do with ?weak springs? which, particularly after a long lay-off, wouldn?t disengage. The cure for this being a good smack on the steel plate sandwiched in the OD from below. Well, that seems to be a stuck mechanism issue whereas I?m facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure relief valve? adjacent to the accumulator. The name suggested that pressure might be stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox and OD out. You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the defective clutch kit? Well, I forget whether we had the box in and out 3 times or 4. I?d hoped not to do it again so soon or ever for that matter. I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice would be a godsend???? Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Sat Apr 16 13:41:42 2022 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 15:41:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Front Shocks stress Message-ID: <000e01d851ca$0021ac00$00650400$@gmail.com> I have been using my Quikjack for the past few weeks to pull the trans and rear of the engine to install the new plate gasket with lots of Right Stuff Permatex sealant and have just got the trans back in. During this time, I would lower the car back on the tires as one of you mentioned that the front shocks wishbone could be damaged by the weight of the tire if left to long on the lift. Please remind me about the problem and how to use a wooden stick and where to insert. Pictures? I hope to have the Healey on the road next week so I can see if the oil leak problem has been solved for good. Using Oil Dye there was very little oil shown which may have been cause by not torquing the plate bolts. After torquing the right stuff squeezed out in a few places so I am hopeful no more oil on the garage floor after a run. Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 67 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sat Apr 16 13:56:29 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 19:56:29 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Front Shocks stress Message-ID: Bob-that caution was to insert a wood block on the shelf between the shock arm and the plate...opposite the rubber bump stop. If you hang the suspension without the block, it will crush the bumper. On the 100 it would use a 2" block (I use a chunk of 1-1/8" plywood sub floor) as it holds up better than just a piece of wood. For the 6-cylinders I think it is 1-1/2" block. That is why the book suggests you lift the front wheels from under the spring plate, rather than any frame member. If you lift the car from the cross member you need two blocks-one on each shock tower...Be sure to remove them when you lower the car. If you forget and drive away, they are probably out on the road somewhere. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Bob Begani via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Saturday April 16 2022 12:42:30PM Subject: [Healeys] Front Shocks stress I have been using my Quikjack for the past few weeks to pull the trans and rear of the engine to install the new plate gasket with lots of Right Stuff Permatex sealant and have just got the trans back in. During this time, I would lower the car back on the tires as one of you mentioned that the front shocks wishbone could be damaged by the weight of the tire if left to long on the lift. Please remind me about the problem and how to use a wooden stick and where to insert. Pictures? I hope to have the Healey on the road next week so I can see if the oil leak problem has been solved for good. Using Oil Dye there was very little oil shown which may have been cause by not torquing the plate bolts. After torquing the right stuff squeezed out in a few places so I am hopeful no more oil on the garage floor after a run. Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 67 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20201130_115638.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 352918 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 14:17:44 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:17:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Front Shocks stress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The "2in block" admonition was to make sure the suspension was at the correct ride height when tightening it down, say, after replacing the lower A-arm bushings (not a job you want to do too often). If this isn't done, the bushings could be in a bind/twisted, which would likely cause them to degrade quickly and could affect suspension geometry and handling. Beneficial side effects are a) keeping the bump stops? from being crushed to oblivion when raising the car by the chassis and, b) avoiding stress on the moving suspension parts. AFAIK, 2in is the correct setting for 6-cyl cars as well. I went to the hardware store and found a couple large bolts--5/8" thread or so--that were 2 inches long. The OEM A-arm bushings were rubber bound to a steel insert (there's a brand name but I can't think of it). They were 'pinched' in their brackets and, supposedly, contributed some elasticity to the suspension; begs the question: Does using urethane or nylon bushes affect handling* and durability? Also, have been told the lower A-arm rear brackets extend out farther than the front, pushing the lower A-arm trunnion forward, which creates/contributes to caster. Anyone know for sure? All told, kind of a wonky way to rig a suspension, with no adjustment for camber or caster. * In my experience, they do take some sloppiness out of the steering. On 4/16/2022 12:56 PM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: > Bob-that caution was to insert a wood block on the shelf between the > shock arm and the plate...opposite the rubber bump stop. If you hang > the suspension without the block, it will crush the bumper. > > On the 100 it would use a 2" block (I use a chunk of 1-1/8" plywood > sub floor) as it holds up better than just a piece of wood. For the > 6-cylinders I think it is 1-1/2" block. That is why the book suggests > you lift the front wheels from under the spring plate, rather than any > frame member. If you lift the car from the cross member you need two > blocks-one on each shock tower...Be sure to remove them when you lower > the car. If you forget and drive away, they are probably out on the > road somewhere. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Bob Begani via Healeys" > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: > Sent: Saturday April 16 2022 12:42:30PM > Subject: [Healeys] Front Shocks stress > > I have been using my Quikjack for the past few weeks to pull the trans > and rear of the engine to install the new plate gasket with lots of > Right Stuff Permatex sealant and have just got the trans back in. > During this time, I would lower the car back on the tires as one of > you mentioned that the front shocks wishbone could be damaged by the > weight of the tire if left to long on the lift.? Please remind me > about the problem and how to use a wooden stick and where to insert. > > Pictures? > > I hope to have the Healey on the road next week so I can see if the > oil leak problem has been solved for good.? Using Oil Dye there was > very little oil shown which may have been cause by not torquing the > plate bolts.? After torquing the right stuff squeezed out in a few > places so I am hopeful no more oil on the garage floor after a run. > > Regards, > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 67 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sat Apr 16 18:36:52 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 00:36:52 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Front Shocks stress Message-ID: <3637285b03310f99211344d68a4685fcb611aece@webmail> Bob-agree, the (steel) block is used when building up the suspension. However, I also use it to "protect" those rubber rebounds as well. If you crush them you cannot replace them in position. The shock tower interferes, so that in order to replace them, you must remove the upper suspension (like when rebuilding-spring compress , etc.). They don't do much except if you decide to fly over railroad tracks. That will probably crush them as well. Bob was concerned that hanging the suspension would cause damage. I think its best to not put that kind of load on an old iron bucket. Just try using plain wood blocks-they splinter to bits. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Saturday April 16 2022 1:18:39PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Front Shocks stress The "2in block" admonition was to make sure the suspension was at the correct ride height when tightening it down, say, after replacing the lower A-arm bushings (not a job you want to do too often). If this isn't done, the bushings could be in a bind/twisted, which would likely cause them to degrade quickly and could affect suspension geometry and handling. Beneficial side effects are a) keeping the bump stops from being crushed to oblivion when raising the car by the chassis and, b) avoiding stress on the moving suspension parts. AFAIK, 2in is the correct setting for 6-cyl cars as well. I went to the hardware store and found a couple large bolts--5/8" thread or so--that were 2 inches long. The OEM A-arm bushings were rubber bound to a steel insert (there's a brand name but I can't think of it). They were 'pinched' in their brackets and, supposedly, contributed some elasticity to the suspension; begs the question: Does using urethane or nylon bushes affect handling* and durability? Also, have been told the lower A-arm rear brackets extend out farther than the front, pushing the lower A-arm trunnion forward, which creates/contributes to caster. Anyone know for sure? All told, kind of a wonky way to rig a suspension, with no adjustment for camber or caster. * In my experience, they do take some sloppiness out of the steering. On 4/16/2022 12:56 PM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: Bob-that caution was to insert a wood block on the shelf between the shock arm and the plate...opposite the rubber bump stop. If you hang the suspension without the block, it will crush the bumper. On the 100 it would use a 2" block (I use a chunk of 1-1/8" plywood sub floor) as it holds up better than just a piece of wood. For the 6-cylinders I think it is 1-1/2" block. That is why the book suggests you lift the front wheels from under the spring plate, rather than any frame member. If you lift the car from the cross member you need two blocks-one on each shock tower...Be sure to remove them when you lower the car. If you forget and drive away, they are probably out on the road somewhere. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Begani via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Saturday April 16 2022 12:42:30PM Subject: [Healeys] Front Shocks stress I have been using my Quikjack for the past few weeks to pull the trans and rear of the engine to install the new plate gasket with lots of Right Stuff Permatex sealant and have just got the trans back in. During this time, I would lower the car back on the tires as one of you mentioned that the front shocks wishbone could be damaged by the weight of the tire if left to long on the lift. Please remind me about the problem and how to use a wooden stick and where to insert. Pictures? I hope to have the Healey on the road next week so I can see if the oil leak problem has been solved for good. Using Oil Dye there was very little oil shown which may have been cause by not torquing the plate bolts. After torquing the right stuff squeezed out in a few places so I am hopeful no more oil on the garage floor after a run. Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 67 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 20:31:50 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 19:31:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Front Shocks stress In-Reply-To: <3637285b03310f99211344d68a4685fcb611aece@webmail> References: <3637285b03310f99211344d68a4685fcb611aece@webmail> Message-ID: I cut slots in the base of the rubber bumpers, loosen the bolts a turn or so, and slide them in. They don't move around. On 4/16/2022 5:36 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: > Bob-agree, the (steel) block is used when building up the suspension.? > However, I also use it to "protect" those rubber rebounds as well.? If > you crush them you cannot replace them in position. The shock tower > interferes, so that in order to replace them, you must remove the > upper suspension (like when rebuilding-spring compress , etc.).? They > don't do much except if you decide to fly over railroad tracks. That > will probably crush them as well. Bob was concerned that hanging the > suspension would cause damage. I think its best to not put that kind > of load on an old iron bucket. Just try using plain wood blocks-they > splinter to bits.? Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: > Sent: Saturday April 16 2022 1:18:39PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Front Shocks stress > > The "2in block" admonition was to make sure the suspension was at the > correct ride height when tightening it down, say, after replacing the > lower A-arm bushings (not a job you want to do too often). If this > isn't done, the bushings could be in a bind/twisted, which would > likely cause them to degrade quickly and could affect suspension > geometry and handling. Beneficial side effects are a) keeping the bump > stops? from being crushed to oblivion when raising the car by the > chassis and, b) avoiding stress on the moving suspension parts. AFAIK, > 2in is the correct setting for 6-cyl cars as well. I went to the > hardware store and found a couple large bolts--5/8" thread or so--that > were 2 inches long. > > The OEM A-arm bushings were rubber bound to a steel insert (there's a > brand name but I can't think of it). They were 'pinched' in their > brackets and, supposedly, contributed some elasticity to the > suspension; begs the question: Does using urethane or nylon bushes > affect handling* and durability? Also, have been told the lower A-arm > rear brackets extend out farther than the front, pushing the lower > A-arm trunnion forward, which creates/contributes to caster. Anyone > know for sure? > > All told, kind of a wonky way to rig a suspension, with no adjustment > for camber or caster. > > * In my experience, they do take some sloppiness out of the steering. > > > On 4/16/2022 12:56 PM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: > > Bob-that caution was to insert a wood block on the shelf between > the shock arm and the plate...opposite the rubber bump stop. If > you hang the suspension without the block, it will crush the bumper. > > On the 100 it would use a 2" block (I use a chunk of 1-1/8" > plywood sub floor) as it holds up better than just a piece of > wood. For the 6-cylinders I think it is 1-1/2" block. That is why > the book suggests you lift the front wheels from under the spring > plate, rather than any frame member. If you lift the car from the > cross member you need two blocks-one on each shock tower...Be sure > to remove them when you lower the car. If you forget and drive > away, they are probably out on the road somewhere. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Bob Begani via Healeys" > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: > Sent: Saturday April 16 2022 12:42:30PM > Subject: [Healeys] Front Shocks stress > > I have been using my Quikjack for the past few weeks to pull the > trans and rear of the engine to install the new plate gasket with > lots of Right Stuff Permatex sealant and have just got the trans > back in. During this time, I would lower the car back on the tires > as one of you mentioned that the front shocks wishbone could be > damaged by the weight of the tire if left to long on the lift. > Please remind me about the problem and how to use a wooden stick > and where to insert. > > Pictures? > > I hope to have the Healey on the road next week so I can see if > the oil leak problem has been solved for good.? Using Oil Dye > there was very little oil shown which may have been cause by not > torquing the plate bolts.? After torquing the right stuff squeezed > out in a few places so I am hopeful no more oil on the garage > floor after a run. > > Regards, > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 67 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fredwescoe at gmail.com Sun Apr 17 06:33:34 2022 From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 08:33:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> Message-ID: I had a very interesting incident with my Audi A6 turbo. I started the car a few mornings ago and after about 5 minutes, the dashboard screen popped up a message saying "Caution reduce your oil level. Contact your dealer." I was somewhat surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck into my garage overnight and added oil to the engine. So, I decided to check the oil level. After lifting the hood, I could not find the dipstick for the oil or for the transmission. I called the dealer who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership. At the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose) and I was told everything was fine. I was informed that the radar sensors in the front grill sometimes get too wet and could cause false oil messages. I was told that my car does not have oil and transmission dipsticks. It seems that the computers read everything and flash messages when something is wrong. So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front grill of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message. I'm just mentioning, Fred 66 BJ8 On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings: > > > https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fredwescoe at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From warthodson at aol.com Sun Apr 17 07:18:03 2022 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 13:18:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. In-Reply-To: <12e3af8b83e2bd4bb8cbbb24a260c32e486ee30e@webmail> References: <12e3af8b83e2bd4bb8cbbb24a260c32e486ee30e@webmail> Message-ID: <32492999.432116.1650201483043@mail.yahoo.com> Another test to determine if the OD is locked in OD would be to remove the spark plugs, place the car on the ground, engage the transmission, probably 4th gear, attempt to push the car forward then backward. It should not be possible to push the car backwards if it is locked in OD. This assumes you have not already have not tried to drive the car backward with it stuck in OD and completely damaged the OD. Gary HOdson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Apr 17 08:01:56 2022 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 10:01:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002401d85263$b38cd1e0$1aa675a0$@rr.com> The ON position is at the full counterclockwise rotation of the handle. The last time I had the valve off I took it apart, cleaned it, and applied anti-seize compound to the tapered shaft. Still works very smoothly. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kahn Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 1:02 PM To: Bob Spidell; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Your photo made me check. It actuall does say off and on the valve. Still the lever seems ot be half way between off and on. I have learned not to fix anything that is working. So, 7:30 it is until it starts leaking someday. _____ From: Healeys on behalf of Richard Kahn Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:56 AM To: Bob Spidell ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Did I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the counterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the lever at the 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always been that way. In US plumbing the heat would be off with the lever perpendicular to the hose and valve. _____ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push it in and out a few times may help loosen it. On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > Quick Q - > > If looking at the tap from the top, is it closed with the lever in the > full counterclockwise position, or the full clockwise positiom? > > Happy Easter & > Happy Passover! > > Cheers, > > Alan > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Apr 17 09:51:45 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 08:51:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block In-Reply-To: <002401d85263$b38cd1e0$1aa675a0$@rr.com> References: <002401d85263$b38cd1e0$1aa675a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: I lfolk mine apart a couple of yesrs ago , cleaned, antiseize and its stuck open. I need to take it apart again Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, ORart On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 7:03 AM BJ8Healeys via Healeys wrote: > The ON position is at the full counterclockwise rotation of the handle. > > The last time I had the valve off I took it apart, cleaned it, and applied > anti-seize compound to the tapered shaft. Still works very smoothly. > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC USA > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Richard > Kahn > *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 1:02 PM > *To:* Bob Spidell; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > > > Your photo made me check. It actuall does say off and on the valve. Still > the lever seems ot be half way between off and on. I have learned not to > fix anything that is working. So, 7:30 it is until it starts leaking > someday. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Richard > Kahn > *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:56 AM > *To:* Bob Spidell ; healeys at autox.team.net < > healeys at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > > > Did I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the > counterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the lever at > the 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always been that way. In US > plumbing the heat would be off with the lever perpendicular to the hose and > valve. > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell > > *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > > > Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't > been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a > penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push it > in and out a few times may help loosen it. > > On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > > Quick Q - > > > > If looking at the tap from the top, is it closed with the lever in the > > full counterclockwise position, or the full clockwise positiom? > > > > Happy Easter & > > Happy Passover! > > > > Cheers, > > > > Alan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sun Apr 17 10:05:37 2022 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 16:05:37 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block In-Reply-To: <002401d85263$b38cd1e0$1aa675a0$@rr.com> References: <002401d85263$b38cd1e0$1aa675a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Is the lever suppose move all the way to the perpendicular position? ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of BJ8Healeys via Healeys Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2022 7:01 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block The ON position is at the full counterclockwise rotation of the handle. The last time I had the valve off I took it apart, cleaned it, and applied anti-seize compound to the tapered shaft. Still works very smoothly. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kahn Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 1:02 PM To: Bob Spidell; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Your photo made me check. It actuall does say off and on the valve. Still the lever seems ot be half way between off and on. I have learned not to fix anything that is working. So, 7:30 it is until it starts leaking someday. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Richard Kahn Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:56 AM To: Bob Spidell ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Did I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the counterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the lever at the 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always been that way. In US plumbing the heat would be off with the lever perpendicular to the hose and valve. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push it in and out a few times may help loosen it. 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URL: From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Apr 17 10:11:39 2022 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 12:11:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block In-Reply-To: References: <002401d85263$b38cd1e0$1aa675a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <005b01d85275$d28655a0$779300e0$@rr.com> Mine does. From: Richard Kahn [mailto:tahoehealey at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2022 12:06 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net; BJ8Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Is the lever suppose move all the way to the perpendicular position? _____ From: Healeys on behalf of BJ8Healeys via Healeys Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2022 7:01 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block The ON position is at the full counterclockwise rotation of the handle. The last time I had the valve off I took it apart, cleaned it, and applied anti-seize compound to the tapered shaft. Still works very smoothly. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kahn Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 1:02 PM To: Bob Spidell; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Your photo made me check. It actuall does say off and on the valve. Still the lever seems ot be half way between off and on. I have learned not to fix anything that is working. So, 7:30 it is until it starts leaking someday. _____ From: Healeys on behalf of Richard Kahn Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:56 AM To: Bob Spidell ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Did I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the counterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the lever at the 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always been that way. In US plumbing the heat would be off with the lever perpendicular to the hose and valve. _____ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push it in and out a few times may help loosen it. On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > Quick Q - > > If looking at the tap from the top, is it closed with the lever in the > full counterclockwise position, or the full clockwise positiom? > > Happy Easter & > Happy Passover! > > Cheers, > > Alan > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 17 10:23:45 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 09:23:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block In-Reply-To: References: <002401d85263$b38cd1e0$1aa675a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <3616a05a-f413-a97e-8237-917e8cb28727@comcast.net> At the risk of starting another endless oil flame war, I don't think anti-seize is the best solution for this application. My experience with it is that any lubricant in it is just there for application; it drys--or cooks off in high-temperature applications--leaving the solid ingredient as residue. Inexpensive AS I believe has some sort of ground ceramic; higher grade has either copper or nickel (nickel is rated highest, the bottle I have says up to 2,600degF--no oil will survive that). AS only provides a barrier to keep metal surfaces from sticking to each other due to corrosion or other chemical reaction. When I pull spark plugs I've installed with AS the oily part is gone, leaving only a thin coat of ceramic/metallic residue. For this reason, I don't think AS is the best lube for splined wheel hubs either. No matter how good the fit, wheel hubs will have some 'ratcheting' going on, better to have a good grease on there to prevent wear, which will also prevent the hubs from 'welding' together. I recently rebuilt my block heater tap. I got too clever and used valve lapping compound to 'clean it up.' To my horror, the compound left minute scratches on the cone valve (it's equivalent to 200 grit sandpaper). I got them partially out with fine wet/dry sandpaper but they were still visible. I put the valve back together with white lithium grease and, so far, it's been fine, but in hindsight I think wheel bearing grease would be better. It's the most tenacious grease and at least somewhat waterproof. I've convinced myself the fine scratching is like the hone on engine cylinders: it will help retain the grease where it will do some good. bs On 4/17/2022 8:51 AM, i erbs via Healeys wrote: > I lfolk? mine apart a couple of yesrs ago , cleaned, antiseize and its > stuck open. > I need to take it apart again > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, ORart > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 7:03 AM BJ8Healeys via Healeys > wrote: > > The ON position is at the full counterclockwise rotation of the > handle. > > The last time I had the valve off I took it apart, cleaned it, and > applied anti-seize compound to the tapered shaft. Still works very > smoothly. > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC? USA > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf > Of *Richard Kahn > *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 1:02 PM > *To:* Bob Spidell; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > Your photo made me check. It actuall does say off and on the > valve. Still the lever seems ot be half way between off and on. I > have learned not to fix anything that is working.? So, 7:30 it is > until it starts leaking someday. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Healeys on behalf of > Richard Kahn > *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:56 AM > *To:* Bob Spidell ; healeys at autox.team.net > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > Did I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the > counterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the > lever at the 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always > been that way. In US plumbing the heat would be off with the lever > perpendicular to the hose and valve. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Healeys on behalf of Bob > Spidell > *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't > been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a > penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can > push it > in and out a few times may help loosen it. > > On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > > Quick Q - > > > > If looking at the tap from the top, is it closed with the lever > in the > > full counterclockwise position, or the full clockwise positiom? > > > > Happy Easter & > > Happy Passover! > > > > Cheers, > > > > Alan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sun Apr 17 10:29:49 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 16:29:49 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Message-ID: <612adfc77f4bf6ca34b5b355929974cd7d093731@webmail> ANTI-SEIZE IS GOOD, BUT FOR WATER, I LIKE PLUMBER'S HEAT PROOF GREASE..a sticky reddish goo that you use on internal plumbing fixtures that turn as well, like our brass heater and rad valves. Yes, you have to disassemble the valve and coat the tapered cone, then reassemble...works perfect-maybe too good, as it easily moves position. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "i erbs via Healeys" To: "BJ8Healeys" Cc: "Ahealey help" Sent: Sunday April 17 2022 8:52:45AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block I lfolk mine apart a couple of yesrs ago , cleaned, antiseize and its stuck open. I need to take it apart again Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, ORart On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 7:03 AM BJ8Healeys via Healeys wrote: The ON position is at the full counterclockwise rotation of the handle. The last time I had the valve off I took it apart, cleaned it, and applied anti-seize compound to the tapered shaft. Still works very smoothly. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA FROM: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] ON BEHALF OF Richard Kahn SENT: Saturday, April 16, 2022 1:02 PM TO: Bob Spidell; healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Your photo made me check. It actuall does say off and on the valve. Still the lever seems ot be half way between off and on. I have learned not to fix anything that is working. So, 7:30 it is until it starts leaking someday. ------------------------- FROM: Healeys on behalf of Richard Kahn SENT: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:56 AM TO: Bob Spidell ; healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Did I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the counterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the lever at the 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always been that way. In US plumbing the heat would be off with the lever perpendicular to the hose and valve. ------------------------- FROM: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell SENT: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM TO: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push it in and out a few times may help loosen it. 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URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun Apr 17 10:31:44 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 12:31:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. In-Reply-To: <000a01d851b6$20733af0$6159b0d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000a01d851b6$20733af0$6159b0d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Simon, Based upon your synopsis I conclude that the operating valve is NOT opening when either the solenoid lever or the setting lever is being moved to the position where the operating valve ball would normally be lifted off its seat. This conclusion is based upon your discovery that the pressure in the accumulator, as indicated on the gauge, does not leak away overnight. There is a small clearance between the operating valve push rod and the overdrive housing. If the operating valve ball was indeed lifted off its seat all the oil in the accumulator would, over time, leak past the operating rod thus discharge the accumulator. This process would indeed take some time but would certainly completely relieve most, if not all the residual accumulator pressure overnight. If however the operating valve ball is still in contact with its seat (i.e. not being lifted) the oil pressure would not reach the small clearance between the valve push rod and the housing and, other than past the accumulator rings there is nowhere for that pressure to be relieved. I would presume that Overdrive Spares installed an accumulator with an "O" ring rather than the original cast iron rings. If the original type accumulator piston was still fitted, oil would seep past the cast iron rings to relieve the pressure, albeit very slowly, and again the accumulator pressure would be discharged overnight.. The cam on the operating shaft, the one which lifts the operating valve push rod and thus the operating valve ball, is locked to the shaft with a small taper pin. I would guess that the taper pin has either fallen out or sheared. Bad news is that this pin cannot be accessed without removing and disassembling the overdrive. M On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some inspired advice. A bit > of background first. I?ll try to lay out all the facts in a logical > sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant to link ODs with logic!) > > 1. I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a total rebuild by > Overdrive Spares here in UK. > 2. The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted out by OD > Spares. The accumulator was uprated and pressure issues sorted. > 3. OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to take it out > since then until.. > 4. One day, the OD stopped functioning. > 5. I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a bit deeper. > 6. It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? > 7. That did not fix the problem so? > 8. I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might be off so.. > 9. I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out precisely rather > than by ?feel?, which I lack in this area. > 10. Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD was > functioning at all so I raised the car on stands and fitted my pressure > gauge. > 11. I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the engine but > I?d suppose that would drop when the oil warms up. > 12. BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving the little > lever on the RHS up and down does not engage/disengage OD. There is no > change on the gauge to show OD engaging or disengaging. > 13. AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is off. Moving > the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed at 500 overnight! > 14. Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve area. None. > 15. Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? operating? (the spindle > thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s clear. And surely, the pressure would > diminish overnight if something in that area was partially obstructed? > 16. When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small spillage ? no > more than you?d expect ? but repeating the pressure gauge process only > returns the same results. > 17. I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that ?Holding this > lever with your thumb and index finger, you should be able to push the > lever down lightly about ?? until you feel a slight spring pressure > resistance. The lever should go down another ?? after encountering the > resistance??? ie there?s about ?? movement up & down in that lever. Well, > my lever does move and does lift the ball, but there?s not ?? movement > there. Could that be the problem area??? > 18. Almost finished?keep reading! > > So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about the OD, it has a > new trick to baffle me. > > I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD and stuck > there or whether it?s simply not going into OD at all. > > I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection of advice from > the various gurus and found reference to ODs being stuck but those seemed > to be to do with ?weak springs? which, particularly after a long lay-off, > wouldn?t disengage. The cure for this being a good smack on the steel plate > sandwiched in the OD from below. Well, that seems to be a stuck mechanism > issue whereas I?m facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? > > There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure relief valve? > adjacent to the accumulator. The name suggested that pressure might be > stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? > > > > Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox and OD out. > You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the defective clutch kit? Well, I > forget whether we had the box in and out 3 times or 4. I?d hoped not to do > it again so soon or ever for that matter. > > > > I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice would be a > godsend???? > > > > Thanks, > > Simon > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Apr 17 10:33:05 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 09:33:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block In-Reply-To: <612adfc77f4bf6ca34b5b355929974cd7d093731@webmail> References: <612adfc77f4bf6ca34b5b355929974cd7d093731@webmail> Message-ID: I used tooth paste to hone the moving bits Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, O On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 9:29 AM wrote: > Anti-seize is good, but for water, I like *plumber's heat proof grease*...a > sticky reddish goo that you use on internal plumbing fixtures that turn as > well, like our brass heater and rad valves. Yes, you have to disassemble > the valve and coat the tapered cone, then reassemble...works perfect-maybe > too good, as it easily moves position. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "i erbs via Healeys" > To: "BJ8Healeys" > Cc: "Ahealey help" > Sent: Sunday April 17 2022 8:52:45AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > I lfolk mine apart a couple of yesrs ago , cleaned, antiseize and its > stuck open. > I need to take it apart again > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, ORart > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 7:03 AM BJ8Healeys via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> The ON position is at the full counterclockwise rotation of the handle. >> >> The last time I had the valve off I took it apart, cleaned it, and >> applied anti-seize compound to the tapered shaft. Still works very >> smoothly. >> >> >> >> Steve Byers >> >> HBJ8L/36666 >> >> BJ8 Registry >> >> AHCA Delegate at Large >> >> Havelock, NC USA >> >> >> >> * From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of* >> Richard Kahn >> *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 1:02 PM >> *To:* Bob Spidell; healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block >> >> >> >> Your photo made me check. It actuall does say off and on the valve. Still >> the lever seems ot be half way between off and on. I have learned not to >> fix anything that is working. So, 7:30 it is until it starts leaking >> someday. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> * From:* Healeys on behalf of Richard >> Kahn >> *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:56 AM >> *To:* Bob Spidell ; healeys at autox.team.net < >> healeys at autox.team.net> >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block >> >> >> >> Did I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the >> counterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the lever at >> the 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always been that way. In US >> plumbing the heat would be off with the lever perpendicular to the hose and >> valve. >> ------------------------------ >> >> * From:* Healeys on behalf of Bob >> Spidell >> *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM >> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block >> >> >> >> Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't >> been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a >> penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push it >> in and out a few times may help loosen it. >> >> On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: >> > Quick Q - >> > >> > If looking at the tap from the top, is it closed with the lever in the >> > full counterclockwise position, or the full clockwise positiom? >> > >> > Happy Easter & >> > Happy Passover! >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Alan >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 17 10:46:45 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 09:46:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block In-Reply-To: <005b01d85275$d28655a0$779300e0$@rr.com> References: <002401d85263$b38cd1e0$1aa675a0$@rr.com> <005b01d85275$d28655a0$779300e0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <22f0df41-be51-60bd-faa3-102120b74773@comcast.net> More-or-less. It's an, uh, 'interesting' part. Usually, you'd expect a ball valve in this type of application but, instead of a ball the valve is cone-shaped, with a hole for water passage. The cone is held within the (tapered) body by a spring, with a thin washer on one side and a thick one, notched to limit the 90deg movement, on the other. Because it's a cone, the valve requires the spring to hold it tight against the body, but if they part the valve will leak. I found this out recently when my heater control valve started to leak and I thought "No problem, I'll just close the block valve." Then, I took a drive and the block valve started leaking so badly I needed a tow home. I hadn't 'exercised' this valve in a long time and I think finally getting it to move opened a gap between the cone and the body of the valve (the spring is supposed to hold them tightly together). I took it apart, cleaned it, and put a slightly thicker flat washer on the spring. Moral of the story: 'Work' this valve occasionally (maybe at oil changes). If yours is stuck, don't grab a wrench or pliers--the handle is fragile--but lightly tap the spring side, maybe with a screwdriver handle. If you're lucky, that will break the adhesion between the moving, cone-shaped valve and its body. A fine example of British over-engineering. On 4/17/2022 9:11 AM, BJ8Healeys via Healeys wrote: > > Mine does. > > *From:*Richard Kahn [mailto:tahoehealey at hotmail.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, April 17, 2022 12:06 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net; BJ8Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > Is the lever suppose move all the way to the perpendicular position? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Healeys on behalf of > BJ8Healeys via Healeys > *Sent:* Sunday, April 17, 2022 7:01 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > The ON position is at the full counterclockwise rotation of the handle. > > The last time I had the valve off I took it apart, cleaned it, and > applied anti-seize compound to the tapered shaft.? Still works very > smoothly. > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC? USA > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of > *Richard Kahn > *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 1:02 PM > *To:* Bob Spidell; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > Your photo made me check. It actuall does say off and on the valve. > Still the lever seems ot be half way between off and on. I have > learned not to fix anything that is working.? So, 7:30 it is until it > starts leaking someday. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Healeys on behalf of Richard > Kahn > *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:56 AM > *To:* Bob Spidell ; healeys at autox.team.net > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > Did I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the > counterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the > lever at the 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always been > that way. In US plumbing the heat would be off with the lever > perpendicular to the hose and valve. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Healeys on behalf of Bob > Spidell > *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't > been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a > penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push it > in and out a few times may help loosen it. > > On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > > Quick Q - > > > > If looking at the tap from the top, is it closed with the lever in the > > full counterclockwise position, or the full clockwise positiom? > > > > Happy Easter & > > Happy Passover! > > > > Cheers, > > > > Alan > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sun Apr 17 10:49:50 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 16:49:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. Message-ID: MICHAEL-GOOD ASSESSMENT OF THE ISSUE! THAT PRESSURE HAS TO FIND A PATH TO BLEED DOWN...SLOWLY. IN MY SYNOPSIS, I FOOLISHLY ONLY MENTIONED THE TWO RELIEF SPRINGS AS CULPRITS...I MEANT TO SAY BALLS & springs, On the early OD, and many of the later ones, the two relief balls are different sizes- one is 1/4" and the other is 5/16" Somewhere, I wrote which is which...(think the oil pump is 5/16 not 1/4") will have to locate info. BUT, if they are reversed the valve balls will not function correctly. One way causes it to leak-no pressure, and the other way it could be jammed and not releasing. Simon's lever has limited travel-jammed? A friend had no pressure after assembling his unit-reversed the balls and it then worked perfect-400lbs and proper operation. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Michael Salter via Healeys" To: "Simon Lachlan" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Sunday April 17 2022 9:32:36AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. Simon, Based upon your synopsis I conclude that the operating valve is NOT opening when either the solenoid lever or the setting lever is being moved to the position where the operating valve ball would normally be lifted off its seat. This conclusion is based upon your discovery that the pressure in the accumulator, as indicated on the gauge, does not leak away overnight. There is a small clearance between the operating valve push rod and the overdrive housing. If the operating valve ball was indeed lifted off its seat all the oil in the accumulator would, over time, leak past the operating rod thus discharge the accumulator. This process would indeed take some time but would certainly completely relieve most, if not all the residual accumulator pressure overnight. If however the operating valve ball is still in contact with its seat (i.e. not being lifted) the oil pressure would not reach the small clearance between the valve push rod and the housing and, other than past the accumulator rings there is nowhere for that pressure to be relieved. I would presume that Overdrive Spares installed an accumulator with an "O" ring rather than the original cast iron rings. If the original type accumulator piston was still fitted, oil would seep past the cast iron rings to relieve the pressure, albeit very slowly, and again the accumulator pressure would be discharged overnight.. The cam on the operating shaft, the one which lifts the operating valve push rod and thus the operating valve ball, is locked to the shaft with a small taper pin. I would guess that the taper pin has either fallen out or sheared. Bad news is that this pin cannot be accessed without removing and disassembling the overdrive. M On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some inspired advice. A bit of background first. I?ll try to lay out all the facts in a logical sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant to link ODs with logic!) * I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a total rebuild by Overdrive Spares here in UK. * The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted out by OD Spares. The accumulator was uprated and pressure issues sorted. * OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to take it out since then until.. * One day, the OD stopped functioning. * I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a bit deeper. * It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? * That did not fix the problem so? * I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might be off so.. * I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out precisely rather than by ?feel?, which I lack in this area. * Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD was functioning at all so I raised the car on stands and fitted my pressure gauge. * I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the engine but I?d suppose that would drop when the oil warms up. * BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving the little lever on the RHS up and down does not engage/disengage OD. There is no change on the gauge to show OD engaging or disengaging. * AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is off. Moving the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed at 500 overnight! * Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve area. None. * Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? operating? (the spindle thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s clear. And surely, the pressure would diminish overnight if something in that area was partially obstructed? * When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small spillage ? no more than you?d expect ? but repeating the pressure gauge process only returns the same results. * I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that ?Holding this lever with your thumb and index finger, you should be able to push the lever down lightly about ?? until you feel a slight spring pressure resistance. The lever should go down another ?? after encountering the resistance??? ie there?s about ?? movement up & down in that lever. Well, my lever does move and does lift the ball, but there?s not ?? movement there. Could that be the problem area??? * Almost finished?keep reading! So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about the OD, it has a new trick to baffle me. I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD and stuck there or whether it?s simply not going into OD at all. I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection of advice from the various gurus and found reference to ODs being stuck but those seemed to be to do with ?weak springs? which, particularly after a long lay-off, wouldn?t disengage. The cure for this being a good smack on the steel plate sandwiched in the OD from below. Well, that seems to be a stuck mechanism issue whereas I?m facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure relief valve? adjacent to the accumulator. The name suggested that pressure might be stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox and OD out. You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the defective clutch kit? Well, I forget whether we had the box in and out 3 times or 4. I?d hoped not to do it again so soon or ever for that matter. I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice would be a godsend???? 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URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sun Apr 17 10:56:52 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 16:56:52 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Message-ID: <2cccd79cf93e3acebead1e1e20d9950ab9148035@webmail> Remember- SU was a plumbing company, manufacturers of toilets, and developed our "carburetters". Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Sunday April 17 2022 9:47:39AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block More-or-less. It's an, uh, 'interesting' part. Usually, you'd expect a ball valve in this type of application but, instead of a ball the valve is cone-shaped, with a hole for water passage. The cone is held within the (tapered) body by a spring, with a thin washer on one side and a thick one, notched to limit the 90deg movement, on the other. Because it's a cone, the valve requires the spring to hold it tight against the body, but if they part the valve will leak. I found this out recently when my heater control valve started to leak and I thought "No problem, I'll just close the block valve." Then, I took a drive and the block valve started leaking so badly I needed a tow home. I hadn't 'exercised' this valve in a long time and I think finally getting it to move opened a gap between the cone and the body of the valve (the spring is supposed to hold them tightly together). I took it apart, cleaned it, and put a slightly thicker flat washer on the spring. Moral of the story: 'Work' this valve occasionally (maybe at oil changes). If yours is stuck, don't grab a wrench or pliers--the handle is fragile--but lightly tap the spring side, maybe with a screwdriver handle. If you're lucky, that will break the adhesion between the moving, cone-shaped valve and its body. A fine example of British over-engineering. On 4/17/2022 9:11 AM, BJ8Healeys via Healeys wrote: Mine does. FROM: Richard Kahn [mailto:tahoehealey at hotmail.com] SENT: Sunday, April 17, 2022 12:06 PM TO: healeys at autox.team.net; BJ8Healeys SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Is the lever suppose move all the way to the perpendicular position? ------------------------- FROM: Healeys on behalf of BJ8Healeys via Healeys SENT: Sunday, April 17, 2022 7:01 AM TO: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block The ON position is at the full counterclockwise rotation of the handle. The last time I had the valve off I took it apart, cleaned it, and applied anti-seize compound to the tapered shaft. Still works very smoothly. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA FROM: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] ON BEHALF OF Richard Kahn SENT: Saturday, April 16, 2022 1:02 PM TO: Bob Spidell; healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Your photo made me check. It actuall does say off and on the valve. Still the lever seems ot be half way between off and on. I have learned not to fix anything that is working. So, 7:30 it is until it starts leaking someday. ------------------------- FROM: Healeys on behalf of Richard Kahn SENT: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:56 AM TO: Bob Spidell ; healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Did I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the counterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the lever at the 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always been that way. In US plumbing the heat would be off with the lever perpendicular to the hose and valve. ------------------------- FROM: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell SENT: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM TO: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push it in and out a few times may help loosen it. On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > Quick Q - > > If looking at the tap from the top, is it closed with the lever in the > full counterclockwise position, or the full clockwise positiom? > > Happy Easter & > Happy Passover! > > Cheers, > > Alan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 17 12:35:34 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 11:35:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block In-Reply-To: <612adfc77f4bf6ca34b5b355929974cd7d093731@webmail> References: <612adfc77f4bf6ca34b5b355929974cd7d093731@webmail> Message-ID: <6e3adb1e-970c-8f07-96ee-15c25a971761@comcast.net> That sounds better than even wheel bearing grease. This got me thinking; I have some water pump etc. grease on the shelf I haven't touched in over 30 years (my BJ8 originally came with a grease port; no zerk or cup). This is probably like the plumber's grease and should be ideal for this application; wish I'd thought of it in time (oh, well ... next time ... there WILL be a 'next time' if I know my cars). Alan, did we answer your question? ;) On 4/17/2022 9:29 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: > Anti-seize is good, but for water, I like *plumber's heat proof > grease*...a sticky reddish goo that you use on internal plumbing > fixtures that turn as well, like our brass heater and rad valves. Yes, > you have to disassemble the valve and coat the tapered cone, then > reassemble...works perfect-maybe too good, as it easily moves > position. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "i erbs via Healeys" > To: "BJ8Healeys" > Cc: "Ahealey help" > Sent: Sunday April 17 2022 8:52:45AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > I lfolk? mine apart a couple of yesrs ago , cleaned, antiseize and its > stuck open. > I need to take it apart again > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, ORart > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 7:03 AM BJ8Healeys via Healeys > wrote: > > The ON position is at the full counterclockwise rotation of the > handle. > > The last time I had the valve off I took it apart, cleaned it, and > applied anti-seize compound to the tapered shaft. Still works very > smoothly. > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC? USA > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf > Of* Richard Kahn > *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 1:02 PM > *To:* Bob Spidell; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > Your photo made me check. It actuall does say off and on the > valve. Still the lever seems ot be half way between off and on. I > have learned not to fix anything that is working.? So, 7:30 it is > until it starts leaking someday. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Healeys on behalf of > Richard Kahn > *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:56 AM > *To:* Bob Spidell ; healeys at autox.team.net > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > Did I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the > counterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the > lever at the 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always > been that way. In US plumbing the heat would be off with the lever > perpendicular to the hose and valve. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Bob > Spidell > *Sent:* Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block > > Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't > been 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a > penetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push it > in and out a few times may help loosen it. > > On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > > Quick Q - > > > > If looking at the tap from the top, is it closed with the lever > in the > > full counterclockwise position, or the full clockwise positiom? > > > > Happy Easter & > > Happy Passover! > > > > Cheers, > > > > Alan > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: WPgrease.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 730909 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 17 12:48:32 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 11:48:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. In-Reply-To: References: <000a01d851b6$20733af0$6159b0d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <5aba3e49-649e-50c5-9c6d-547ea1f0fbd8@comcast.net> Michael, Sounds like you're implying the O-ringed accumulator is superior to the metal ring (OEM) type? Wish I'd known about it when I rebuilt my O/D (I bought the DWM 'uprated' accumulator). I'll throw out another, very unlikely, potential cause: the cone clutch could be stuck together. I've heard of this happening, but have never experienced it my self--nor has anyone I know--but it's theoretically possible (esp. if the clutch is excessively worn). Could this be the reason the manual is adamant about replacing the 8 strong springs, of two lengths, that oppose the operating pistons on overhaul, regardless if they still seem robust? On 4/17/2022 9:31 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > Simon, > Based upon your synopsis I conclude that the operating valve is NOT > opening when either the solenoid lever or the setting lever is being > moved to the position where the operating valve ball would normally be > lifted off its seat. > This conclusion is based upon your discovery that the pressure in the > accumulator, as indicated on the gauge, does not leak away overnight. > There is a small clearance between the operating valve push rod and > the overdrive housing. If the operating valve ball was indeed lifted > off its seat all the oil in the accumulator would, over time, leak > past the operating rod thus discharge the accumulator. > This process would indeed take some time but would certainly > completely relieve most, if not all the residual accumulator pressure > overnight. > If however the operating valve ball is still in contact with its seat > (i.e. not being lifted) the oil pressure would not reach the small > clearance between the valve push rod and the housing and, other than > past the accumulator rings there is nowhere for that pressure to be > relieved. > I would presume that Overdrive Spares installed an accumulator with an > "O" ring rather than the original cast iron rings. If the original > type accumulator piston was still fitted, oil would seep past the cast > iron rings to relieve the pressure, albeit very slowly, and again the > accumulator pressure would be discharged overnight.. > The cam on the operating shaft, the one which lifts the operating > valve push rod and thus the operating valve ball, is locked to the > shaft with a small taper pin. I would guess that the taper pin has > either fallen out or sheared. > Bad news is that this pin cannot be accessed without removing and > disassembling the overdrive. > > M > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: > > My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some inspired > advice. A bit of background first. I?ll try to lay out all the > facts in a logical sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant to link > ODs with logic!) > > 1. I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a total > rebuild by Overdrive Spares here in UK. > 2. The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted out by > OD Spares. The accumulator was uprated and pressure issues sorted. > 3. OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to take it > out since then until.. > 4. One day, the OD stopped functioning. > 5. I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a bit deeper. > 6. It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? > 7. That did not fix the problem so? > 8. I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might be off so.. > 9. I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out precisely > rather than by ?feel?, which I lack in this area. > 10. Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD was > functioning at all so I raised the car on stands and fitted my > pressure gauge. > 11. I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the engine > but I?d suppose that would drop when the oil warms up. > 12. BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving the little > lever on the RHS up and down does not engage/disengage OD. > There is no change on the gauge to show OD engaging or > disengaging. > 13. AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is off. > Moving the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed at 500 > overnight! > 14. Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve area. None. > 15. Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? operating? (the > spindle thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s clear. And > surely, the pressure would diminish overnight if something in > that area was partially obstructed? > 16. When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small spillage ? > no more than you?d expect ? but repeating the pressure gauge > process only returns the same results. > 17. I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that ?Holding this > lever with your thumb and index finger, you should be able to > push the lever down lightly about ?? until you feel a slight > spring pressure resistance. The lever should go down another > ?? after encountering the resistance??? ie there?s about ?? > movement up & down in that lever. Well, my lever does move and > does lift the ball, but there?s not ?? movement there. Could > that be the problem area??? > 18. Almost finished?keep reading! > > So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about the OD, it > has a new trick to baffle me. > > I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD ?and > stuck there or whether it?s simply not going into OD at all. > > I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection of > advice from the various gurus and found reference to ODs being > stuck but those seemed to be to do with ?weak springs? which, > particularly after a long lay-off, wouldn?t disengage. The cure > for this being a good smack on the steel plate sandwiched in the > OD from below. Well, that seems to be a stuck mechanism issue > whereas I?m facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? > > There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure relief > valve? adjacent to the accumulator. The name suggested that > pressure might be stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? > > Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox and OD > out. You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the defective clutch > kit? Well, I forget whether we had the box in and out 3 times or > 4. I?d hoped not to do it again so soon or ever for that matter. > > I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice would be > a godsend???? > > Thanks, > > Simon > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun Apr 17 13:03:07 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 15:03:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. In-Reply-To: <5aba3e49-649e-50c5-9c6d-547ea1f0fbd8@comcast.net> References: <000a01d851b6$20733af0$6159b0d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <5aba3e49-649e-50c5-9c6d-547ea1f0fbd8@comcast.net> Message-ID: Actually Bob I've never used an "O" ringed accumulator. I spent a little time many years back looking into using "O" rings on the accumulator but couldn't resolve the issue of the ring being chaffed when passing over the radial drillings in the accumulator body. Does anyone know how that has been solved? M On Sun., Apr. 17, 2022, 2:49 p.m. Bob Spidell, wrote: > Michael, > > Sounds like you're implying the O-ringed accumulator is superior to the > metal ring (OEM) type? Wish I'd known about it when I rebuilt my O/D (I > bought the DWM 'uprated' accumulator). > > I'll throw out another, very unlikely, potential cause: the cone clutch > could be stuck together. I've heard of this happening, but have never > experienced it my self--nor has anyone I know--but it's theoretically > possible (esp. if the clutch is excessively worn). Could this be the reason > the manual is adamant about replacing the 8 strong springs, of two lengths, > that oppose the operating pistons on overhaul, regardless if they still > seem robust? > > > On 4/17/2022 9:31 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > > Simon, > Based upon your synopsis I conclude that the operating valve is NOT > opening when either the solenoid lever or the setting lever is being moved > to the position where the operating valve ball would normally be lifted off > its seat. > This conclusion is based upon your discovery that the pressure in the > accumulator, as indicated on the gauge, does not leak away overnight. > There is a small clearance between the operating valve push rod and the > overdrive housing. If the operating valve ball was indeed lifted off its > seat all the oil in the accumulator would, over time, leak past the > operating rod thus discharge the accumulator. > This process would indeed take some time but would certainly completely > relieve most, if not all the residual accumulator pressure overnight. > If however the operating valve ball is still in contact with its seat > (i.e. not being lifted) the oil pressure would not reach the small > clearance between the valve push rod and the housing and, other than past > the accumulator rings there is nowhere for that pressure to be relieved. > I would presume that Overdrive Spares installed an accumulator with an "O" > ring rather than the original cast iron rings. If the original type > accumulator piston was still fitted, oil would seep past the cast iron > rings to relieve the pressure, albeit very slowly, and again the > accumulator pressure would be discharged overnight.. > The cam on the operating shaft, the one which lifts the operating valve > push rod and thus the operating valve ball, is locked to the shaft with a > small taper pin. I would guess that the taper pin has either fallen out or > sheared. > Bad news is that this pin cannot be accessed without removing and > disassembling the overdrive. > > M > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some inspired advice. A bit >> of background first. I?ll try to lay out all the facts in a logical >> sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant to link ODs with logic!) >> >> 1. I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a total rebuild >> by Overdrive Spares here in UK. >> 2. The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted out by OD >> Spares. The accumulator was uprated and pressure issues sorted. >> 3. OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to take it out >> since then until.. >> 4. One day, the OD stopped functioning. >> 5. I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a bit deeper. >> 6. It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? >> 7. That did not fix the problem so? >> 8. I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might be off so.. >> 9. I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out precisely rather >> than by ?feel?, which I lack in this area. >> 10. Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD was >> functioning at all so I raised the car on stands and fitted my pressure >> gauge. >> 11. I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the engine but >> I?d suppose that would drop when the oil warms up. >> 12. BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving the little >> lever on the RHS up and down does not engage/disengage OD. There is no >> change on the gauge to show OD engaging or disengaging. >> 13. AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is off. >> Moving the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed at 500 overnight! >> 14. Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve area. None. >> 15. Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? operating? (the spindle >> thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s clear. And surely, the pressure would >> diminish overnight if something in that area was partially obstructed? >> 16. When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small spillage ? no >> more than you?d expect ? but repeating the pressure gauge process only >> returns the same results. >> 17. I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that ?Holding this >> lever with your thumb and index finger, you should be able to push the >> lever down lightly about ?? until you feel a slight spring pressure >> resistance. The lever should go down another ?? after encountering the >> resistance??? ie there?s about ?? movement up & down in that lever. Well, >> my lever does move and does lift the ball, but there?s not ?? movement >> there. Could that be the problem area??? >> 18. Almost finished?keep reading! >> >> So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about the OD, it has a >> new trick to baffle me. >> >> I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD and stuck >> there or whether it?s simply not going into OD at all. >> >> I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection of advice from >> the various gurus and found reference to ODs being stuck but those seemed >> to be to do with ?weak springs? which, particularly after a long lay-off, >> wouldn?t disengage. The cure for this being a good smack on the steel plate >> sandwiched in the OD from below. Well, that seems to be a stuck mechanism >> issue whereas I?m facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? >> >> There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure relief valve? >> adjacent to the accumulator. The name suggested that pressure might be >> stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? >> >> >> >> Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox and OD out. >> You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the defective clutch kit? Well, I >> forget whether we had the box in and out 3 times or 4. I?d hoped not to do >> it again so soon or ever for that matter. >> >> >> >> I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice would be a >> godsend???? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Simon >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Sun Apr 17 14:00:47 2022 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 16:00:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> Message-ID: Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I talk into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them anymore. Later on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. The way you check the oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly flat surface with the card operating temperature and running, then you step through the menu and there's something on there about checking the oil it takes one or two minutes and comes back and tells you how full it is. Personally, I think the whole thing defies logic, the dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch, you always had something to stick the marshmallows on at the fire pit. On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe wrote: > I had a very interesting incident with my Audi A6 turbo. > > I started the car a few mornings ago and after about 5 minutes, the > dashboard screen popped up a message saying "Caution reduce your oil > level. Contact your dealer." I was somewhat surprised at the message, > thinking someone snuck into my garage overnight and added oil to the > engine. So, I decided to check the oil level. After lifting the hood, I > could not find the dipstick for the oil or for the transmission. I called > the dealer who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership. At > the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose) and I was > told everything was fine. I was informed that the radar sensors in the > front grill sometimes get too wet and could cause false oil messages. > > I was told that my car does not have oil and transmission dipsticks. It > seems that the computers read everything and flash messages when > something is wrong. > > So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front grill of > your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message. > > I'm just mentioning, > > Fred > 66 BJ8 > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings: >> >> >> https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fredwescoe at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Sun Apr 17 14:30:47 2022 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 20:30:47 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> Message-ID: The manufacturers do it this way to force you to go to the dealership if there are any issues, the corner garages and shop will be gone in less than 10 years. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Jim Ryan via Healeys Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2022 3:00:47 PM To: Fred Wescoe Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil loss Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I talk into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them anymore. Later on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. The way you check the oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly flat surface with the card operating temperature and running, then you step through the menu and there's something on there about checking the oil it takes one or two minutes and comes back and tells you how full it is. Personally, I think the whole thing defies logic, the dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch, you always had something to stick the marshmallows on at the fire pit. On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe > wrote: I had a very interesting incident with my Audi A6 turbo. I started the car a few mornings ago and after about 5 minutes, the dashboard screen popped up a message saying "Caution reduce your oil level. Contact your dealer." I was somewhat surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck into my garage overnight and added oil to the engine. So, I decided to check the oil level. After lifting the hood, I could not find the dipstick for the oil or for the transmission. I called the dealer who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership. At the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose) and I was told everything was fine. I was informed that the radar sensors in the front grill sometimes get too wet and could cause false oil messages. I was told that my car does not have oil and transmission dipsticks. It seems that the computers read everything and flash messages when something is wrong. So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front grill of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message. I'm just mentioning, Fred 66 BJ8 On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings: https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fredwescoe at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sun Apr 17 14:47:12 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 20:47:12 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. Message-ID: Don't think that issue has been resolved. Moss sells the replacement as: Austin Healey 100, 100-6, 3000 Clutch, Gearbox & Drivetrain Overdrive BN1 [1] 76 O-RING BN1 --79 866-690 [2] [3] O-RING 89 cents each-chafe them and replace them. Hank [4]---------------------------------------From: "Michael Salter via Healeys" To: "Bob Spidell" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday April 17 2022 12:04:24PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. Actually Bob I've never used an "O" ringed accumulator. I spent a little time many years back looking into using "O" rings on the accumulator but couldn't resolve the issue of the ring being chaffed when passing over the radial drillings in the accumulator body. Does anyone know how that has been solved? M On Sun., Apr. 17, 2022, 2:49 p.m. Bob Spidell, wrote: Michael, Sounds like you're implying the O-ringed accumulator is superior to the metal ring (OEM) type? Wish I'd known about it when I rebuilt my O/D (I bought the DWM 'uprated' accumulator). I'll throw out another, very unlikely, potential cause: the cone clutch could be stuck together. I've heard of this happening, but have never experienced it my self--nor has anyone I know--but it's theoretically possible (esp. if the clutch is excessively worn). Could this be the reason the manual is adamant about replacing the 8 strong springs, of two lengths, that oppose the operating pistons on overhaul, regardless if they still seem robust? On 4/17/2022 9:31 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: Simon, Based upon your synopsis I conclude that the operating valve is NOT opening when either the solenoid lever or the setting lever is being moved to the position where the operating valve ball would normally be lifted off its seat. This conclusion is based upon your discovery that the pressure in the accumulator, as indicated on the gauge, does not leak away overnight. There is a small clearance between the operating valve push rod and the overdrive housing. If the operating valve ball was indeed lifted off its seat all the oil in the accumulator would, over time, leak past the operating rod thus discharge the accumulator. This process would indeed take some time but would certainly completely relieve most, if not all the residual accumulator pressure overnight. If however the operating valve ball is still in contact with its seat (i.e. not being lifted) the oil pressure would not reach the small clearance between the valve push rod and the housing and, other than past the accumulator rings there is nowhere for that pressure to be relieved. I would presume that Overdrive Spares installed an accumulator with an "O" ring rather than the original cast iron rings. If the original type accumulator piston was still fitted, oil would seep past the cast iron rings to relieve the pressure, albeit very slowly, and again the accumulator pressure would be discharged overnight.. The cam on the operating shaft, the one which lifts the operating valve push rod and thus the operating valve ball, is locked to the shaft with a small taper pin. I would guess that the taper pin has either fallen out or sheared. Bad news is that this pin cannot be accessed without removing and disassembling the overdrive. M On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some inspired advice. A bit of background first. I?ll try to lay out all the facts in a logical sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant to link ODs with logic!) * I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a total rebuild by Overdrive Spares here in UK. * The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted out by OD Spares. The accumulator was uprated and pressure issues sorted. * OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to take it out since then until.. * One day, the OD stopped functioning. * I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a bit deeper. * It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? * That did not fix the problem so? * I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might be off so.. * I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out precisely rather than by ?feel?, which I lack in this area. * Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD was functioning at all so I raised the car on stands and fitted my pressure gauge. * I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the engine but I?d suppose that would drop when the oil warms up. * BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving the little lever on the RHS up and down does not engage/disengage OD. There is no change on the gauge to show OD engaging or disengaging. * AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is off. Moving the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed at 500 overnight! * Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve area. None. * Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? operating? (the spindle thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s clear. And surely, the pressure would diminish overnight if something in that area was partially obstructed? * When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small spillage ? no more than you?d expect ? but repeating the pressure gauge process only returns the same results. * I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that ?Holding this lever with your thumb and index finger, you should be able to push the lever down lightly about ?? until you feel a slight spring pressure resistance. The lever should go down another ?? after encountering the resistance??? ie there?s about ?? movement up & down in that lever. Well, my lever does move and does lift the ball, but there?s not ?? movement there. Could that be the problem area??? * Almost finished?keep reading! So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about the OD, it has a new trick to baffle me. I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD and stuck there or whether it?s simply not going into OD at all. I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection of advice from the various gurus and found reference to ODs being stuck but those seemed to be to do with ?weak springs? which, particularly after a long lay-off, wouldn?t disengage. The cure for this being a good smack on the steel plate sandwiched in the OD from below. Well, that seems to be a stuck mechanism issue whereas I?m facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure relief valve? adjacent to the accumulator. The name suggested that pressure might be stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox and OD out. You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the defective clutch kit? Well, I forget whether we had the box in and out 3 times or 4. I?d hoped not to do it again so soon or ever for that matter. I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice would be a godsend???? 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 17 16:06:12 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 15:06:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. In-Reply-To: References: <000a01d851b6$20733af0$6159b0d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <5aba3e49-649e-50c5-9c6d-547ea1f0fbd8@comcast.net> Message-ID: <53bf49c1-4be7-060e-9002-0ea39f2e9194@comcast.net> AH Spares has an accumulator and piston which uses an O-ring. It appears the pressure relief hole is chamfered: https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/performance-parts/gearbox-overdrive/o-ring-conversion-accumulator-piston.aspx On 4/17/2022 12:03 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > Actually Bob I've never used an? "O" ringed accumulator. > I spent a little time many years back looking into using "O" rings on > the accumulator but couldn't resolve the issue of the ring being > chaffed when passing over the radial drillings in the accumulator body. > Does anyone know how that has been solved? > > M > > On Sun., Apr. 17, 2022, 2:49 p.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > > Michael, > > Sounds like you're implying the O-ringed accumulator is superior > to the metal ring (OEM) type? Wish I'd known about it when I > rebuilt my O/D (I bought the DWM 'uprated' accumulator). > > I'll throw out another, very unlikely, potential cause: the cone > clutch could be stuck together. I've heard of this happening, but > have never experienced it my self--nor has anyone I know--but it's > theoretically possible (esp. if the clutch is excessively worn). > Could this be the reason the manual is adamant about replacing the > 8 strong springs, of two lengths, that oppose the operating > pistons on overhaul, regardless if they still seem robust? > > > On 4/17/2022 9:31 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: >> Simon, >> Based upon your synopsis I conclude that the operating valve is >> NOT opening when either the solenoid lever or the setting lever >> is being moved to the position where the operating valve ball >> would normally be lifted off its seat. >> This conclusion is based upon your discovery that the pressure in >> the accumulator, as indicated on the gauge, does not leak away >> overnight. >> There is a small clearance between the operating valve push rod >> and the overdrive housing. If the operating valve ball was indeed >> lifted off its seat all the oil in the accumulator would, over >> time, leak past the operating rod thus discharge the accumulator. >> This process would indeed take some time but would certainly >> completely relieve most, if not all the residual accumulator >> pressure overnight. >> If however the operating valve ball is still in contact with its >> seat (i.e. not being lifted) the oil pressure would not reach the >> small clearance between the valve push rod and the housing and, >> other than past the accumulator rings there is nowhere for that >> pressure to be relieved. >> I would presume that Overdrive Spares installed an accumulator >> with an "O" ring rather than the original cast iron rings. If the >> original type accumulator piston was still fitted, oil would seep >> past the cast iron rings to relieve the pressure, albeit very >> slowly, and again the accumulator pressure would be discharged >> overnight.. >> The cam on the operating shaft, the one which lifts the operating >> valve push rod and thus the operating valve ball, is locked to >> the shaft with a small taper pin. I would guess that the taper >> pin has either fallen out or sheared. >> Bad news is that this pin cannot be accessed without removing and >> disassembling the overdrive. >> >> M >> >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys >> wrote: >> >> My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some inspired >> advice. A bit of background first. I?ll try to lay out all >> the facts in a logical sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant >> to link ODs with logic!) >> >> 1. I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a total >> rebuild by Overdrive Spares here in UK. >> 2. The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted >> out by OD Spares. The accumulator was uprated and >> pressure issues sorted. >> 3. OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to take >> it out since then until.. >> 4. One day, the OD stopped functioning. >> 5. I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a bit >> deeper. >> 6. It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? >> 7. That did not fix the problem so? >> 8. I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might be >> off so.. >> 9. I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out precisely >> rather than by ?feel?, which I lack in this area. >> 10. Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD was >> functioning at all so I raised the car on stands and >> fitted my pressure gauge. >> 11. I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the >> engine but I?d suppose that would drop when the oil warms up. >> 12. BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving the >> little lever on the RHS up and down does not >> engage/disengage OD. There is no change on the gauge to >> show OD engaging or disengaging. >> 13. AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is >> off. Moving the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed at >> 500 overnight! >> 14. Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve >> area. None. >> 15. Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? operating? (the >> spindle thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s clear. And >> surely, the pressure would diminish overnight if >> something in that area was partially obstructed? >> 16. When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small >> spillage ? no more than you?d expect ? but repeating the >> pressure gauge process only returns the same results. >> 17. I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that ?Holding >> this lever with your thumb and index finger, you should >> be able to push the lever down lightly about ?? until you >> feel a slight spring pressure resistance. The lever >> should go down another ?? after encountering the >> resistance??? ie there?s about ?? movement up & down in >> that lever. Well, my lever does move and does lift the >> ball, but there?s not ?? movement there. Could that be >> the problem area??? >> 18. Almost finished?keep reading! >> >> So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about the >> OD, it has a new trick to baffle me. >> >> I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD >> ?and stuck there or whether it?s simply not going into OD at all. >> >> I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection of >> advice from the various gurus and found reference to ODs >> being stuck but those seemed to be to do with ?weak springs? >> which, particularly after a long lay-off, wouldn?t disengage. >> The cure for this being a good smack on the steel plate >> sandwiched in the OD from below. Well, that seems to be a >> stuck mechanism issue whereas I?m facing a hydraulic >> conundrum. Or am I? >> >> There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure relief >> valve? adjacent to the accumulator. The name suggested that >> pressure might be stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? >> >> Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox >> and OD out. You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the >> defective clutch kit? Well, I forget whether we had the box >> in and out 3 times or 4. I?d hoped not to do it again so soon >> or ever for that matter. >> >> I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice >> would be a godsend???? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Simon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 17 16:16:07 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 15:16:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> Message-ID: Well, SOMETHING had to be done about the millions and millions of catastrophic dipstick failures every year. On 4/17/2022 1:30 PM, Jean Caron via Healeys wrote: > > The manufacturers do it this way to force you to go to the dealership > if there are any issues, the corner garages and shop will be gone in > less than 10 years. > > Jean > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Jim Ryan > via Healeys > *Sent:* Sunday, April 17, 2022 3:00:47 PM > *To:* Fred Wescoe > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil loss > Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I > talk into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them > anymore. Later on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. > The way you check the oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly > flat surface with the card operating temperature and running, then you > step through the menu and there's something on there about checking > the oil it takes one or two minutes and comes back and tells you how > full it is. Personally, I think the whole thing defies logic, the > dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch, you always had something to > stick the marshmallows on at the fire pit. > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe wrote: > > I had a very interesting incident?with my Audi A6 turbo. > > I started the car a few mornings ago and after about?5 minutes, > the dashboard?screen popped?up a message saying "Caution > reduce?your oil level.? Contact your dealer."? ?I was somewhat > surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck into my garage > overnight and added oil to the engine.? So, I decided to check the > oil level.? After lifting the hood, I could not find the > dipstick?for the oil or for the transmission.? I called the dealer > who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership.? At > the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose) > and I was told everything?was fine.? I was informed that the radar > sensors?in the front grill sometimes?get too wet and could cause > false oil messages. > > I was told that my car does not?have oil and > transmission?dipsticks.? It seems that the computers read > everything and flash messages when something?is wrong. > > So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front > grill of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message. > > I'm just mentioning, > > Fred > 66 BJ8 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 17 16:18:45 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 15:18:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75650792-ffcd-90ca-cf6b-08ca41748489@comcast.net> I think that's the O-ring for the operating pistons. Mine were slightly flat-sided at 200K+ miles. On 4/17/2022 1:47 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: > > Don't think that issue has been resolved.? Moss sells the replacement as: > Austin Healey 100, 100-6, 3000 Clutch, Gearbox & Drivetrain > Overdrive BN1 76 O-RING BN1 > > --79 > > 866-690 > > > > O-RING 89 cents each-chafe them and replace them. Hank > > --------------------------------------- > > From: "Michael Salter via Healeys" > To: "Bob Spidell" > Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" > Sent: Sunday April 17 2022 12:04:24PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. > > Actually Bob I've never used an? "O" ringed accumulator. > I spent a little time many years back looking into using "O" rings on > the accumulator but couldn't resolve the issue of the ring being > chaffed when passing over the radial drillings in the accumulator body. > Does anyone know how that has been solved? > > M > > On Sun., Apr. 17, 2022, 2:49 p.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > > Michael, > > Sounds like you're implying the O-ringed accumulator is superior > to the metal ring (OEM) type? Wish I'd known about it when I > rebuilt my O/D (I bought the DWM 'uprated' accumulator). > > I'll throw out another, very unlikely, potential cause: the cone > clutch could be stuck together. I've heard of this happening, but > have never experienced it my self--nor has anyone I know--but it's > theoretically possible (esp. if the clutch is excessively worn). > Could this be the reason the manual is adamant about replacing the > 8 strong springs, of two lengths, that oppose the operating > pistons on overhaul, regardless if they still seem robust? > > > On 4/17/2022 9:31 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > > Simon, > Based upon your synopsis I conclude that the operating valve > is NOT opening when either the solenoid lever or the setting > lever is being moved to the position where the operating valve > ball would normally be lifted off its seat. > This conclusion is based upon your discovery that the pressure > in the accumulator, as indicated on the gauge, does not leak > away overnight. > There is a small clearance between the operating valve push > rod and the overdrive housing. If the operating valve ball was > indeed lifted off its seat all the oil in the accumulator > would, over time, leak past the operating rod thus discharge > the accumulator. > This process would indeed take some time but would certainly > completely relieve most, if not all the residual accumulator > pressure overnight. > If however the operating valve ball is still in contact with > its seat (i.e. not being lifted) the oil pressure would not > reach the small clearance between the valve push rod and the > housing and, other than past the accumulator rings there is > nowhere for that pressure to be relieved. > I would presume that Overdrive Spares installed an accumulator > with an "O" ring rather than the original cast iron rings. If > the original type accumulator piston was still fitted, oil > would seep past the cast iron rings to relieve the pressure, > albeit very slowly, and again the accumulator pressure would > be discharged overnight.. > The cam on the operating shaft, the one which lifts the > operating valve push rod and thus the operating valve ball, is > locked to the shaft with a small taper pin. I would guess that > the taper pin has either fallen out or sheared. > Bad news is that this pin cannot be accessed without removing > and disassembling the overdrive. > > M > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: > > My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some > inspired advice. A bit of background first. I?ll try to > lay out all the facts in a logical sequence. (I?m > increasingly reluctant to link ODs with logic!) > > 1. I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a > total rebuild by Overdrive Spares here in UK. > 2. The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted > out by OD Spares. The accumulator was uprated and > pressure issues sorted. > 3. OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to > take it out since then until.. > 4. One day, the OD stopped functioning. > 5. I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a > bit deeper. > 6. It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? > 7. That did not fix the problem so? > 8. I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might > be off so.. > 9. I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out > precisely rather than by ?feel?, which I lack in this > area. > 10. Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD > was functioning at all so I raised the car on stands > and fitted my pressure gauge. > 11. I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the > engine but I?d suppose that would drop when the oil > warms up. > 12. BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving > the little lever on the RHS up and down does not > engage/disengage OD. There is no change on the gauge > to show OD engaging or disengaging. > 13. AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is > off. Moving the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed > at 500 overnight! > 14. Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve > area. None. > 15. Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? operating? > (the spindle thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s > clear. And surely, the pressure would diminish > overnight if something in that area was partially > obstructed? > 16. When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small > spillage ? no more than you?d expect ? but repeating > the pressure gauge process only returns the same results. > 17. I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that > ?Holding this lever with your thumb and index finger, > you should be able to push the lever down lightly > about ?? until you feel a slight spring pressure > resistance. The lever should go down another ?? after > encountering the resistance??? ie there?s about ?? > movement up & down in that lever. Well, my lever does > move and does lift the ball, but there?s not ?? > movement there. Could that be the problem area??? > 18. Almost finished?keep reading! > > So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about > the OD, it has a new trick to baffle me. > > I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD > ?and stuck there or whether it?s simply not going into OD > at all. > > I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection > of advice from the various gurus and found reference to > ODs being stuck but those seemed to be to do with ?weak > springs? which, particularly after a long lay-off, > wouldn?t disengage. The cure for this being a good smack > on the steel plate sandwiched in the OD from below. Well, > that seems to be a stuck mechanism issue whereas I?m > facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? > > There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure > relief valve? adjacent to the accumulator. The name > suggested that pressure might be stuck in that area?.but > surely not overnight? > > Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox > and OD out. You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the > defective clutch kit? Well, I forget whether we had the > box in and out 3 times or 4. I?d hoped not to do it again > so soon or ever for that matter. > > I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice > would be a godsend???? > > Thanks, > > Simon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sun Apr 17 16:21:00 2022 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 23:21:00 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. In-Reply-To: <53bf49c1-4be7-060e-9002-0ea39f2e9194@comcast.net> References: <000a01d851b6$20733af0$6159b0d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <5aba3e49-649e-50c5-9c6d-547ea1f0fbd8@comcast.net> <53bf49c1-4be7-060e-9002-0ea39f2e9194@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002b01d852a9$6d6c62c0$48452840$@alexarevel.plus.com> That?s the one I?ve got. I did get an increase in pressure. No question about that. I talked to Dave at OD Spares with regard to the various accumulators out there at the moment. I don?t recall exactly but he supplies all of them to his customers and, I think, to the suppliers. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: 17 April 2022 23:06 To: Michael Salter Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. AH Spares has an accumulator and piston which uses an O-ring. It appears the pressure relief hole is chamfered: https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/performance-parts/gearbox-overdrive/o-ring-conversion-accumulator-piston.aspx On 4/17/2022 12:03 PM, Michael Salter wrote: Actually Bob I've never used an "O" ringed accumulator. I spent a little time many years back looking into using "O" rings on the accumulator but couldn't resolve the issue of the ring being chaffed when passing over the radial drillings in the accumulator body. Does anyone know how that has been solved? M On Sun., Apr. 17, 2022, 2:49 p.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: Michael, Sounds like you're implying the O-ringed accumulator is superior to the metal ring (OEM) type? Wish I'd known about it when I rebuilt my O/D (I bought the DWM 'uprated' accumulator). I'll throw out another, very unlikely, potential cause: the cone clutch could be stuck together. I've heard of this happening, but have never experienced it my self--nor has anyone I know--but it's theoretically possible (esp. if the clutch is excessively worn). Could this be the reason the manual is adamant about replacing the 8 strong springs, of two lengths, that oppose the operating pistons on overhaul, regardless if they still seem robust? On 4/17/2022 9:31 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: Simon, Based upon your synopsis I conclude that the operating valve is NOT opening when either the solenoid lever or the setting lever is being moved to the position where the operating valve ball would normally be lifted off its seat. This conclusion is based upon your discovery that the pressure in the accumulator, as indicated on the gauge, does not leak away overnight. There is a small clearance between the operating valve push rod and the overdrive housing. If the operating valve ball was indeed lifted off its seat all the oil in the accumulator would, over time, leak past the operating rod thus discharge the accumulator. This process would indeed take some time but would certainly completely relieve most, if not all the residual accumulator pressure overnight. If however the operating valve ball is still in contact with its seat (i.e. not being lifted) the oil pressure would not reach the small clearance between the valve push rod and the housing and, other than past the accumulator rings there is nowhere for that pressure to be relieved. I would presume that Overdrive Spares installed an accumulator with an "O" ring rather than the original cast iron rings. If the original type accumulator piston was still fitted, oil would seep past the cast iron rings to relieve the pressure, albeit very slowly, and again the accumulator pressure would be discharged overnight.. The cam on the operating shaft, the one which lifts the operating valve push rod and thus the operating valve ball, is locked to the shaft with a small taper pin. I would guess that the taper pin has either fallen out or sheared. Bad news is that this pin cannot be accessed without removing and disassembling the overdrive. M On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some inspired advice. A bit of background first. I?ll try to lay out all the facts in a logical sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant to link ODs with logic!) 1. I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a total rebuild by Overdrive Spares here in UK. 2. The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted out by OD Spares. The accumulator was uprated and pressure issues sorted. 3. OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to take it out since then until.. 4. One day, the OD stopped functioning. 5. I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a bit deeper. 6. It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? 7. That did not fix the problem so? 8. I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might be off so.. 9. I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out precisely rather than by ?feel?, which I lack in this area. 10. Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD was functioning at all so I raised the car on stands and fitted my pressure gauge. 11. I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the engine but I?d suppose that would drop when the oil warms up. 12. BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving the little lever on the RHS up and down does not engage/disengage OD. There is no change on the gauge to show OD engaging or disengaging. 13. AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is off. Moving the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed at 500 overnight! 14. Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve area. None. 15. Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? operating? (the spindle thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s clear. And surely, the pressure would diminish overnight if something in that area was partially obstructed? 16. When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small spillage ? no more than you?d expect ? but repeating the pressure gauge process only returns the same results. 17. I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that ?Holding this lever with your thumb and index finger, you should be able to push the lever down lightly about ?? until you feel a slight spring pressure resistance. The lever should go down another ?? after encountering the resistance??? ie there?s about ?? movement up & down in that lever. Well, my lever does move and does lift the ball, but there?s not ?? movement there. Could that be the problem area??? 18. Almost finished?keep reading! So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about the OD, it has a new trick to baffle me. I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD and stuck there or whether it?s simply not going into OD at all. I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection of advice from the various gurus and found reference to ODs being stuck but those seemed to be to do with ?weak springs? which, particularly after a long lay-off, wouldn?t disengage. The cure for this being a good smack on the steel plate sandwiched in the OD from below. Well, that seems to be a stuck mechanism issue whereas I?m facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure relief valve? adjacent to the accumulator. The name suggested that pressure might be stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox and OD out. You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the defective clutch kit? Well, I forget whether we had the box in and out 3 times or 4. I?d hoped not to do it again so soon or ever for that matter. I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice would be a godsend???? Thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roggrace at telus.net Mon Apr 18 09:03:29 2022 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:03:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. In-Reply-To: <002b01d852a9$6d6c62c0$48452840$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000a01d851b6$20733af0$6159b0d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <5aba3e49-649e-50c5-9c6d-547ea1f0fbd8@comcast.net> <53bf49c1-4be7-060e-9002-0ea39f2e9194@comcast.net> <002b01d852a9$6d6c62c0$48452840$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: To confirm Michae's analysis, consider: remove ball, spring and plunger remove the valve push rod and inspect - I use a piece of steel wire of appropriate thickness to pry out. replace the push rod - it should go in smoothly insert the wire again and push down gently; with your other hand operate the cam and you should feel the operating rod move up and down on the cam. if not MS is correct and the pin/peg has failed.... of course it could also be the cotter pin that goes through the setting lever - but less likely IMO BTW I have found that my OD (O rings) holds 400 psi for several days. rg Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 3:21 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > That?s the one I?ve got. I did get an increase in pressure. No question > about that. > > I talked to Dave at OD Spares with regard to the various accumulators out > there at the moment. I don?t recall exactly but he supplies all of them to > his customers and, I think, to the suppliers. > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Bob > Spidell > *Sent:* 17 April 2022 23:06 > *To:* Michael Salter > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. > > > > AH Spares has an accumulator and piston which uses an O-ring. It appears > the pressure relief hole is chamfered: > > > https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/performance-parts/gearbox-overdrive/o-ring-conversion-accumulator-piston.aspx > > On 4/17/2022 12:03 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > > Actually Bob I've never used an "O" ringed accumulator. > > I spent a little time many years back looking into using "O" rings on the > accumulator but couldn't resolve the issue of the ring being chaffed when > passing over the radial drillings in the accumulator body. > > Does anyone know how that has been solved? > > > > M > > > > On Sun., Apr. 17, 2022, 2:49 p.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > > Michael, > > Sounds like you're implying the O-ringed accumulator is superior to the > metal ring (OEM) type? Wish I'd known about it when I rebuilt my O/D (I > bought the DWM 'uprated' accumulator). > > I'll throw out another, very unlikely, potential cause: the cone clutch > could be stuck together. I've heard of this happening, but have never > experienced it my self--nor has anyone I know--but it's theoretically > possible (esp. if the clutch is excessively worn). Could this be the reason > the manual is adamant about replacing the 8 strong springs, of two lengths, > that oppose the operating pistons on overhaul, regardless if they still > seem robust? > > On 4/17/2022 9:31 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > > Simon, > > Based upon your synopsis I conclude that the operating valve is NOT > opening when either the solenoid lever or the setting lever is being moved > to the position where the operating valve ball would normally be lifted off > its seat. > > This conclusion is based upon your discovery that the pressure in the > accumulator, as indicated on the gauge, does not leak away overnight. > > There is a small clearance between the operating valve push rod and the > overdrive housing. If the operating valve ball was indeed lifted off its > seat all the oil in the accumulator would, over time, leak past the > operating rod thus discharge the accumulator. > > This process would indeed take some time but would certainly completely > relieve most, if not all the residual accumulator pressure overnight. > > If however the operating valve ball is still in contact with its seat > (i.e. not being lifted) the oil pressure would not reach the small > clearance between the valve push rod and the housing and, other than past > the accumulator rings there is nowhere for that pressure to be relieved. > > I would presume that Overdrive Spares installed an accumulator with an "O" > ring rather than the original cast iron rings. If the original type > accumulator piston was still fitted, oil would seep past the cast iron > rings to relieve the pressure, albeit very slowly, and again the > accumulator pressure would be discharged overnight.. > > The cam on the operating shaft, the one which lifts the operating valve > push rod and thus the operating valve ball, is locked to the shaft with a > small taper pin. I would guess that the taper pin has either fallen out or > sheared. > > Bad news is that this pin cannot be accessed without removing and > disassembling the overdrive. > > > > M > > > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some inspired advice. A bit > of background first. I?ll try to lay out all the facts in a logical > sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant to link ODs with logic!) > > 1. I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a total rebuild by > Overdrive Spares here in UK. > 2. The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted out by OD > Spares. The accumulator was uprated and pressure issues sorted. > 3. OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to take it out > since then until.. > 4. One day, the OD stopped functioning. > 5. I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a bit deeper. > 6. It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? > 7. That did not fix the problem so? > 8. I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might be off so.. > 9. I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out precisely rather > than by ?feel?, which I lack in this area. > 10. Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD was > functioning at all so I raised the car on stands and fitted my pressure > gauge. > 11. I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the engine but > I?d suppose that would drop when the oil warms up. > 12. BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving the little > lever on the RHS up and down does not engage/disengage OD. There is no > change on the gauge to show OD engaging or disengaging. > 13. AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is off. Moving > the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed at 500 overnight! > 14. Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve area. None. > 15. Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? operating? (the spindle > thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s clear. And surely, the pressure would > diminish overnight if something in that area was partially obstructed? > 16. When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small spillage ? no > more than you?d expect ? but repeating the pressure gauge process only > returns the same results. > 17. I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that ?Holding this > lever with your thumb and index finger, you should be able to push the > lever down lightly about ?? until you feel a slight spring pressure > resistance. The lever should go down another ?? after encountering the > resistance??? ie there?s about ?? movement up & down in that lever. Well, > my lever does move and does lift the ball, but there?s not ?? movement > there. Could that be the problem area??? > 18. Almost finished?keep reading! > > So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about the OD, it has a > new trick to baffle me. > > I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD and stuck > there or whether it?s simply not going into OD at all. > > I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection of advice from > the various gurus and found reference to ODs being stuck but those seemed > to be to do with ?weak springs? which, particularly after a long lay-off, > wouldn?t disengage. The cure for this being a good smack on the steel plate > sandwiched in the OD from below. Well, that seems to be a stuck mechanism > issue whereas I?m facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? > > There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure relief valve? > adjacent to the accumulator. The name suggested that pressure might be > stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? > > > > Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox and OD out. > You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the defective clutch kit? Well, I > forget whether we had the box in and out 3 times or 4. I?d hoped not to do > it again so soon or ever for that matter. > > > > I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice would be a > godsend???? > > > > Thanks, > > Simon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net > > Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Apr 18 09:24:29 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:24:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. In-Reply-To: References: <000a01d851b6$20733af0$6159b0d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <5aba3e49-649e-50c5-9c6d-547ea1f0fbd8@comcast.net> <53bf49c1-4be7-060e-9002-0ea39f2e9194@comcast.net> <002b01d852a9$6d6c62c0$48452840$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <57b2de09-40c1-9f95-b4e9-55b287c5722f@comcast.net> Wouldn't opening up an O/D with 500psi be kind of messy? On 4/18/2022 8:03 AM, Roger Grace wrote: > To confirm Michae's analysis, consider: > ? remove ball, spring and plunger > ? remove the valve push rod and inspect - I use a piece of steel wire > of appropriate thickness to pry out. > ? replace the push rod - it should go in smoothly > ? insert the wire again and push down gently; with your other hand > operate the cam and you should feel the operating rod move up and down > on the cam. > ?if not MS is correct and the pin/peg has failed.... > ?of course it could also be the cotter pin that goes through the > setting lever - but less likely IMO > BTW I have found that my OD (O rings) holds 400 psi for several days. > rg > > > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > > > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 3:21 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: > > That?s the one I?ve got. I did get an increase in pressure. No > question about that. > > I talked to Dave at OD Spares with regard to the various > accumulators out there at the moment. I don?t recall exactly but > he supplies all of them to his customers and, I think, to the > suppliers. > > Simon > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Bob > Spidell > *Sent:* 17 April 2022 23:06 > *To:* Michael Salter > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. > > AH Spares has an accumulator and piston which uses an O-ring. It > appears the pressure relief hole is chamfered: > > https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/performance-parts/gearbox-overdrive/o-ring-conversion-accumulator-piston.aspx > > On 4/17/2022 12:03 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > > Actually Bob I've never used an "O" ringed accumulator. > > I spent a little time many years back looking into using "O" > rings on the accumulator but couldn't resolve the issue of the > ring being chaffed when passing over the radial drillings in > the accumulator body. > > Does anyone know how that has been solved? > > M > > On Sun., Apr. 17, 2022, 2:49 p.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > > Michael, > > Sounds like you're implying the O-ringed accumulator is > superior to the metal ring (OEM) type? Wish I'd known > about it when I rebuilt my O/D (I bought the DWM 'uprated' > accumulator). > > I'll throw out another, very unlikely, potential cause: > the cone clutch could be stuck together. I've heard of > this happening, but have never experienced it my self--nor > has anyone I know--but it's theoretically possible (esp. > if the clutch is excessively worn). Could this be the > reason the manual is adamant about replacing the 8 strong > springs, of two lengths, that oppose the operating pistons > on overhaul, regardless if they still seem robust? > > On 4/17/2022 9:31 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > > Simon, > > Based upon your synopsis I conclude that the operating > valve is NOT opening when either the solenoid lever or > the setting lever is being moved to the position where > the operating valve ball would normally be lifted off > its seat. > > This conclusion is based upon your discovery that the > pressure in the accumulator, as indicated on the > gauge, does not leak away overnight. > > There is a small clearance between the operating valve > push rod and the overdrive housing. If the operating > valve ball was indeed lifted off its seat all the oil > in the accumulator would, over time, leak past the > operating rod thus discharge the accumulator. > > This process would indeed take some time but would > certainly completely relieve most, if not all the > residual accumulator pressure overnight. > > If however the operating valve ball is still in > contact with its seat (i.e. not being lifted) the oil > pressure would not reach the small clearance between > the valve push rod and the housing and, other than > past the accumulator rings there is nowhere for that > pressure to be relieved. > > I would presume that Overdrive Spares installed an > accumulator with an "O" ring rather than the original > cast iron rings. If the original type accumulator > piston was still fitted, oil would seep past the cast > iron rings to relieve the pressure, albeit very > slowly, and again the accumulator pressure would be > discharged overnight.. > > The cam on the operating shaft, the one which lifts > the operating valve push rod and thus the operating > valve ball, is locked to the shaft with a small taper > pin. I would guess that the taper pin has either > fallen out or sheared. > > Bad news is that this pin cannot be accessed without > removing and disassembling the overdrive. > > M > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Simon Lachlan via > Healeys wrote: > > My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some > inspired advice. A bit of background first. I?ll > try to lay out all the facts in a logical > sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant to link ODs > with logic!) > > 1. I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles > since a total rebuild by Overdrive Spares here > in UK. > 2. The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and > was sorted out by OD Spares. The accumulator > was uprated and pressure issues sorted. > 3. OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been > able to take it out since then until.. > 4. One day, the OD stopped functioning. > 5. I checked the electrics. All fine there so I > delved a bit deeper. > 6. It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? > 7. That did not fix the problem so? > 8. I decided that the operating valve?s > adjustment might be off so.. > 9. I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out > precisely rather than by ?feel?, which I lack > in this area. > 10. Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if > the OD was functioning at all so I raised the > car on stands and fitted my pressure gauge. > 11. I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I > rev the engine but I?d suppose that would drop > when the oil warms up. > 12. BUT, and this is where things go > pear-shaped?moving the little lever on the RHS > up and down does not engage/disengage OD. > There is no change on the gauge to show OD > engaging or disengaging. > 13. AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the > engine is off. Moving the lever 20 times has > zero effect. Stayed at 500 overnight! > 14. Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating > valve area. None. > 15. Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? > operating? (the spindle thing which the ball > sits on)?.that?s clear. And surely, the > pressure would diminish overnight if something > in that area was partially obstructed? > 16. When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a > small spillage ? no more than you?d expect ? > but repeating the pressure gauge process only > returns the same results. > 17. I see in the bible according to Norman Nock > that ?Holding this lever with your thumb and > index finger, you should be able to push the > lever down lightly about ?? until you feel a > slight spring pressure resistance. The lever > should go down another ?? after encountering > the resistance??? ie there?s about ?? movement > up & down in that lever. Well, my lever does > move and does lift the ball, but there?s not > ?? movement there. Could that be the problem > area??? > 18. Almost finished?keep reading! > > So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new > about the OD, it has a new trick to baffle me. > > I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone > into OD ?and stuck there or whether it?s simply > not going into OD at all. > > I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and > collection of advice from the various gurus and > found reference to ODs being stuck but those > seemed to be to do with ?weak springs? which, > particularly after a long lay-off, wouldn?t > disengage. The cure for this being a good smack on > the steel plate sandwiched in the OD from below. > Well, that seems to be a stuck mechanism issue > whereas I?m facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? > > There is what is usually referred to as the > ?pressure relief valve? adjacent to the > accumulator. The name suggested that pressure > might be stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? > > Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the > gearbox and OD out. You?ll recall the ridiculous > business of the defective clutch kit? Well, I > forget whether we had the box in and out 3 times > or 4. I?d hoped not to do it again so soon or ever > for that matter. > > I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound > advice would be a godsend???? > > Thanks, > > Simon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Apr 18 09:43:45 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 11:43:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. In-Reply-To: <57b2de09-40c1-9f95-b4e9-55b287c5722f@comcast.net> References: <000a01d851b6$20733af0$6159b0d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <5aba3e49-649e-50c5-9c6d-547ea1f0fbd8@comcast.net> <53bf49c1-4be7-060e-9002-0ea39f2e9194@comcast.net> <002b01d852a9$6d6c62c0$48452840$@alexarevel.plus.com> <57b2de09-40c1-9f95-b4e9-55b287c5722f@comcast.net> Message-ID: *Wouldn't opening up an O/D with 500psi be kind of messy? * Lots of pressure but actually very little volume of oil involved. M On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 11:25 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > Wouldn't opening up an O/D with 500psi be kind of messy? > > On 4/18/2022 8:03 AM, Roger Grace wrote: > > To confirm Michae's analysis, consider: > remove ball, spring and plunger > remove the valve push rod and inspect - I use a piece of steel wire of > appropriate thickness to pry out. > replace the push rod - it should go in smoothly > insert the wire again and push down gently; with your other hand operate > the cam and you should feel the operating rod move up and down on the cam. > if not MS is correct and the pin/peg has failed.... > of course it could also be the cotter pin that goes through the setting > lever - but less likely IMO > BTW I have found that my OD (O rings) holds 400 psi for several days. > rg > > > > > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 3:21 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> That?s the one I?ve got. I did get an increase in pressure. No question >> about that. >> >> I talked to Dave at OD Spares with regard to the various accumulators out >> there at the moment. I don?t recall exactly but he supplies all of them to >> his customers and, I think, to the suppliers. >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Bob >> Spidell >> *Sent:* 17 April 2022 23:06 >> *To:* Michael Salter >> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. >> >> >> >> AH Spares has an accumulator and piston which uses an O-ring. It appears >> the pressure relief hole is chamfered: >> >> >> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/performance-parts/gearbox-overdrive/o-ring-conversion-accumulator-piston.aspx >> >> On 4/17/2022 12:03 PM, Michael Salter wrote: >> >> Actually Bob I've never used an "O" ringed accumulator. >> >> I spent a little time many years back looking into using "O" rings on the >> accumulator but couldn't resolve the issue of the ring being chaffed when >> passing over the radial drillings in the accumulator body. >> >> Does anyone know how that has been solved? >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Sun., Apr. 17, 2022, 2:49 p.m. Bob Spidell, >> wrote: >> >> Michael, >> >> Sounds like you're implying the O-ringed accumulator is superior to the >> metal ring (OEM) type? Wish I'd known about it when I rebuilt my O/D (I >> bought the DWM 'uprated' accumulator). >> >> I'll throw out another, very unlikely, potential cause: the cone clutch >> could be stuck together. I've heard of this happening, but have never >> experienced it my self--nor has anyone I know--but it's theoretically >> possible (esp. if the clutch is excessively worn). Could this be the reason >> the manual is adamant about replacing the 8 strong springs, of two lengths, >> that oppose the operating pistons on overhaul, regardless if they still >> seem robust? >> >> On 4/17/2022 9:31 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: >> >> Simon, >> >> Based upon your synopsis I conclude that the operating valve is NOT >> opening when either the solenoid lever or the setting lever is being moved >> to the position where the operating valve ball would normally be lifted off >> its seat. >> >> This conclusion is based upon your discovery that the pressure in the >> accumulator, as indicated on the gauge, does not leak away overnight. >> >> There is a small clearance between the operating valve push rod and the >> overdrive housing. If the operating valve ball was indeed lifted off its >> seat all the oil in the accumulator would, over time, leak past the >> operating rod thus discharge the accumulator. >> >> This process would indeed take some time but would certainly completely >> relieve most, if not all the residual accumulator pressure overnight. >> >> If however the operating valve ball is still in contact with its seat >> (i.e. not being lifted) the oil pressure would not reach the small >> clearance between the valve push rod and the housing and, other than past >> the accumulator rings there is nowhere for that pressure to be relieved. >> >> I would presume that Overdrive Spares installed an accumulator with an >> "O" ring rather than the original cast iron rings. If the original type >> accumulator piston was still fitted, oil would seep past the cast iron >> rings to relieve the pressure, albeit very slowly, and again the >> accumulator pressure would be discharged overnight.. >> >> The cam on the operating shaft, the one which lifts the operating valve >> push rod and thus the operating valve ball, is locked to the shaft with a >> small taper pin. I would guess that the taper pin has either fallen out or >> sheared. >> >> Bad news is that this pin cannot be accessed without removing and >> disassembling the overdrive. >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some inspired advice. A bit >> of background first. I?ll try to lay out all the facts in a logical >> sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant to link ODs with logic!) >> >> 1. I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a total rebuild >> by Overdrive Spares here in UK. >> 2. The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted out by OD >> Spares. The accumulator was uprated and pressure issues sorted. >> 3. OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to take it out >> since then until.. >> 4. One day, the OD stopped functioning. >> 5. I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a bit deeper. >> 6. It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? >> 7. That did not fix the problem so? >> 8. I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might be off so.. >> 9. I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out precisely rather >> than by ?feel?, which I lack in this area. >> 10. Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD was >> functioning at all so I raised the car on stands and fitted my pressure >> gauge. >> 11. I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the engine but >> I?d suppose that would drop when the oil warms up. >> 12. BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving the little >> lever on the RHS up and down does not engage/disengage OD. There is no >> change on the gauge to show OD engaging or disengaging. >> 13. AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is off. >> Moving the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed at 500 overnight! >> 14. Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve area. None. >> 15. Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? operating? (the spindle >> thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s clear. And surely, the pressure would >> diminish overnight if something in that area was partially obstructed? >> 16. When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small spillage ? no >> more than you?d expect ? but repeating the pressure gauge process only >> returns the same results. >> 17. I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that ?Holding this >> lever with your thumb and index finger, you should be able to push the >> lever down lightly about ?? until you feel a slight spring pressure >> resistance. The lever should go down another ?? after encountering the >> resistance??? ie there?s about ?? movement up & down in that lever. Well, >> my lever does move and does lift the ball, but there?s not ?? movement >> there. Could that be the problem area??? >> 18. Almost finished?keep reading! >> >> So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about the OD, it has a >> new trick to baffle me. >> >> I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD and stuck >> there or whether it?s simply not going into OD at all. >> >> I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection of advice from >> the various gurus and found reference to ODs being stuck but those seemed >> to be to do with ?weak springs? which, particularly after a long lay-off, >> wouldn?t disengage. The cure for this being a good smack on the steel plate >> sandwiched in the OD from below. Well, that seems to be a stuck mechanism >> issue whereas I?m facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? >> >> There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure relief valve? >> adjacent to the accumulator. The name suggested that pressure might be >> stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? >> >> >> >> Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox and OD out. >> You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the defective clutch kit? Well, I >> forget whether we had the box in and out 3 times or 4. I?d hoped not to do >> it again so soon or ever for that matter. >> >> >> >> I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice would be a >> godsend???? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Simon >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at gmail.com Mon Apr 18 10:08:20 2022 From: healeydoc at gmail.com (David Nock) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 09:08:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. In-Reply-To: <57b2de09-40c1-9f95-b4e9-55b287c5722f@comcast.net> References: <000a01d851b6$20733af0$6159b0d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <5aba3e49-649e-50c5-9c6d-547ea1f0fbd8@comcast.net> <53bf49c1-4be7-060e-9002-0ea39f2e9194@comcast.net> <002b01d852a9$6d6c62c0$48452840$@alexarevel.plus.com> <57b2de09-40c1-9f95-b4e9-55b287c5722f@comcast.net> Message-ID: <528A75C0B1104F5D9E907D6125D574DF@DavidNockHP> There is a very small bleed hole in the operating rod that if plugged will cause the overdrive pressure to be very slow at releasing. Remove rod and see if you can blow thru the it. Look in about the middle just below the ribs and you will see the bleed hole. It is most likley plugged David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Bob Spidell Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 8:24 AM To: Roger Grace ; simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. Wouldn't opening up an O/D with 500psi be kind of messy? On 4/18/2022 8:03 AM, Roger Grace wrote: To confirm Michae's analysis, consider: remove ball, spring and plunger remove the valve push rod and inspect - I use a piece of steel wire of appropriate thickness to pry out. replace the push rod - it should go in smoothly insert the wire again and push down gently; with your other hand operate the cam and you should feel the operating rod move up and down on the cam. if not MS is correct and the pin/peg has failed.... of course it could also be the cotter pin that goes through the setting lever - but less likely IMO BTW I have found that my OD (O rings) holds 400 psi for several days. rg Virus-free. www.avg.com On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 3:21 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: That?s the one I?ve got. I did get an increase in pressure. No question about that. I talked to Dave at OD Spares with regard to the various accumulators out there at the moment. I don?t recall exactly but he supplies all of them to his customers and, I think, to the suppliers. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: 17 April 2022 23:06 To: Michael Salter Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pressure not releasing. AH Spares has an accumulator and piston which uses an O-ring. It appears the pressure relief hole is chamfered: https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/performance-parts/gearbox-overdrive/o-ring-conversion-accumulator-piston.aspx On 4/17/2022 12:03 PM, Michael Salter wrote: Actually Bob I've never used an "O" ringed accumulator. I spent a little time many years back looking into using "O" rings on the accumulator but couldn't resolve the issue of the ring being chaffed when passing over the radial drillings in the accumulator body. Does anyone know how that has been solved? M On Sun., Apr. 17, 2022, 2:49 p.m. Bob Spidell, wrote: Michael, Sounds like you're implying the O-ringed accumulator is superior to the metal ring (OEM) type? Wish I'd known about it when I rebuilt my O/D (I bought the DWM 'uprated' accumulator). I'll throw out another, very unlikely, potential cause: the cone clutch could be stuck together. I've heard of this happening, but have never experienced it my self--nor has anyone I know--but it's theoretically possible (esp. if the clutch is excessively worn). Could this be the reason the manual is adamant about replacing the 8 strong springs, of two lengths, that oppose the operating pistons on overhaul, regardless if they still seem robust? On 4/17/2022 9:31 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: Simon, Based upon your synopsis I conclude that the operating valve is NOT opening when either the solenoid lever or the setting lever is being moved to the position where the operating valve ball would normally be lifted off its seat. This conclusion is based upon your discovery that the pressure in the accumulator, as indicated on the gauge, does not leak away overnight. There is a small clearance between the operating valve push rod and the overdrive housing. If the operating valve ball was indeed lifted off its seat all the oil in the accumulator would, over time, leak past the operating rod thus discharge the accumulator. This process would indeed take some time but would certainly completely relieve most, if not all the residual accumulator pressure overnight. If however the operating valve ball is still in contact with its seat (i.e. not being lifted) the oil pressure would not reach the small clearance between the valve push rod and the housing and, other than past the accumulator rings there is nowhere for that pressure to be relieved. I would presume that Overdrive Spares installed an accumulator with an "O" ring rather than the original cast iron rings. If the original type accumulator piston was still fitted, oil would seep past the cast iron rings to relieve the pressure, albeit very slowly, and again the accumulator pressure would be discharged overnight.. The cam on the operating shaft, the one which lifts the operating valve push rod and thus the operating valve ball, is locked to the shaft with a small taper pin. I would guess that the taper pin has either fallen out or sheared. Bad news is that this pin cannot be accessed without removing and disassembling the overdrive. M On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: My OD is driving me mad and I definitely need some inspired advice. A bit of background first. I?ll try to lay out all the facts in a logical sequence. (I?m increasingly reluctant to link ODs with logic!) 1.. I?d say that the OD has done +/- 15k miles since a total rebuild by Overdrive Spares here in UK. 2.. The OD had issues before Christmas (21) and was sorted out by OD Spares. The accumulator was uprated and pressure issues sorted. 3.. OD functioned 100% on the few times I?d been able to take it out since then until.. 4.. One day, the OD stopped functioning. 5.. I checked the electrics. All fine there so I delved a bit deeper. 6.. It had fried its solenoid which I replaced. But? 7.. That did not fix the problem so? 8.. I decided that the operating valve?s adjustment might be off so.. 9.. I bought a dial gauge and hoped to sort it out precisely rather than by ?feel?, which I lack in this area. 10.. Prior to using the gauge I decided to see if the OD was functioning at all so I raised the car on stands and fitted my pressure gauge. 11.. I get a reading of 500psi rising a bit when I rev the engine but I?d suppose that would drop when the oil warms up. 12.. BUT, and this is where things go pear-shaped?moving the little lever on the RHS up and down does not engage/disengage OD. There is no change on the gauge to show OD engaging or disengaging. 13.. AND, the gauge stays at 500psi even when the engine is off. Moving the lever 20 times has zero effect. Stayed at 500 overnight! 14.. Of course, I checked for dirt in the operating valve area. None. 15.. Likewise, the tiny hole in the ?valve ? operating? (the spindle thing which the ball sits on)?.that?s clear. And surely, the pressure would diminish overnight if something in that area was partially obstructed? 16.. When I remove the pressure valve, there?s a small spillage ? no more than you?d expect ? but repeating the pressure gauge process only returns the same results. 17.. I see in the bible according to Norman Nock that ?Holding this lever with your thumb and index finger, you should be able to push the lever down lightly about ?? until you feel a slight spring pressure resistance. The lever should go down another ?? after encountering the resistance??? ie there?s about ?? movement up & down in that lever. Well, my lever does move and does lift the ball, but there?s not ?? movement there. Could that be the problem area??? 18.. Almost finished?keep reading! So, I?m stumped. Every time I learn something new about the OD, it has a new trick to baffle me. I?ve no 100% sure way of telling whether it?s gone into OD and stuck there or whether it?s simply not going into OD at all. I?ve done a lot of reading through my books and collection of advice from the various gurus and found reference to ODs being stuck but those seemed to be to do with ?weak springs? which, particularly after a long lay-off, wouldn?t disengage. The cure for this being a good smack on the steel plate sandwiched in the OD from below. Well, that seems to be a stuck mechanism issue whereas I?m facing a hydraulic conundrum. Or am I? There is what is usually referred to as the ?pressure relief valve? adjacent to the accumulator. The name suggested that pressure might be stuck in that area?.but surely not overnight? Any ideas? I am particularly reluctant to take the gearbox and OD out. You?ll recall the ridiculous business of the defective clutch kit? Well, I forget whether we had the box in and out 3 times or 4. I?d hoped not to do it again so soon or ever for that matter. I?m hoping for a miracle of course but some sound advice would be a godsend???? Thanks, Simon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Mon Apr 18 15:41:08 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 17:41:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00aa01d8536d$03924d50$0ab6e7f0$@sympatico.ca> My 2011 BMW is also dipstickless. I think some bean-counter or HR autonom told management to get rid of the dipsticks, meaning the marketing people, but the message ended up being sent to the engineering department. I sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300 pages of generally unhelpful information and when I once had to add brake fluid could not even tell me where the reservoir was located, telling me to see the dealer (like hell, the interweb directed me to remove a plastic cover near the wiper linkage and I did this mystifying and most complicated task myself), yet the 100 page Instruction Manual for my ?48 M.G.TC explains how to R&R the head, engine, gearbox, do a de-coke, and even how to adjust the back-lash on the differential crown-wheel and pinion. I remember when BMW?s motto was ?A Driver?s Car?. Now it must be something like ?A car to look good in at the golf club in? or something similar. They certainly lost their path in my opinion. Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of Jim Ryan via Healeys Sent: April 17, 2022 4:01 PM To: Fred Wescoe Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil loss Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I talk into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them anymore. Later on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. The way you check the oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly flat surface with the card operating temperature and running, then you step through the menu and there's something on there about checking the oil it takes one or two minutes and comes back and tells you how full it is. Personally, I think the whole thing defies logic, the dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch, you always had something to stick the marshmallows on at the fire pit. On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe > wrote: I had a very interesting incident with my Audi A6 turbo. I started the car a few mornings ago and after about 5 minutes, the dashboard screen popped up a message saying "Caution reduce your oil level. Contact your dealer." I was somewhat surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck into my garage overnight and added oil to the engine. So, I decided to check the oil level. After lifting the hood, I could not find the dipstick for the oil or for the transmission. I called the dealer who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership. At the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose) and I was told everything was fine. I was informed that the radar sensors in the front grill sometimes get too wet and could cause false oil messages. I was told that my car does not have oil and transmission dipsticks. It seems that the computers read everything and flash messages when something is wrong. So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front grill of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message. I'm just mentioning, Fred 66 BJ8 On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings: https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fredwescoe at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phoenix722 at comcast.net Mon Apr 18 15:58:10 2022 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 14:58:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: <00aa01d8536d$03924d50$0ab6e7f0$@sympatico.ca> References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> <00aa01d8536d$03924d50$0ab6e7f0$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Agreed. On 4/18/2022 2:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: > > My 2011 BMW is also dipstickless.? I think some bean-counter or HR > autonom told management to get rid of the dipsticks, meaning the > marketing people, but the message ended up being sent to the > engineering department. > > I sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300 pages > of generally unhelpful information and when I once had to add brake > fluid could not even tell me where the reservoir was located, telling > me to see the dealer (like hell, the interweb directed me to remove a > plastic cover near the wiper linkage and I did this mystifying and > most complicated task myself), yet the 100 page Instruction Manual for > my ?48 M.G.TC explains how to R&R the head, engine, gearbox, do a > de-coke, and even how to adjust the back-lash on the differential > crown-wheel and pinion. > > I remember when BMW?s motto was ?A Driver?s Car?.? Now it must be > something like ?A car to look good in at the golf club in? or > something similar. They certainly lost their path in my opinion. > > Mirek > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Jim > Ryan via Healeys > *Sent:* April 17, 2022 4:01 PM > *To:* Fred Wescoe > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil loss > > Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I > talk into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them > anymore. Later on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. > The way you check the oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly > flat surface with the card operating temperature and running, then you > step through the menu and there's something on there about checking > the oil it takes one or two minutes and comes back and tells you how > full it is. Personally, I think the whole thing defies logic, the > dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch, you always had something to > stick the marshmallows on at the fire pit. > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe wrote: > > I had a very interesting incident?with my Audi A6 turbo. > > I started the car a few mornings ago and after about?5 minutes, > the dashboard?screen popped?up a message saying "Caution > reduce?your oil level.? Contact your dealer."? ?I was somewhat > surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck into my garage > overnight and added oil to the engine.? So, I decided to check the > oil level.? After lifting the hood, I could not find the > dipstick?for the oil or for the transmission.? I called the dealer > who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership.? At > the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose) > and I was told everything?was fine.? I was informed that the radar > sensors?in the front grill sometimes?get too wet and could cause > false oil messages. > > I was told that my car does not?have oil and > transmission?dipsticks.? It seems that the computers read > everything and flash messages when something?is wrong. > > So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front > grill of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message. > > I'm just mentioning, > > Fred > > 66 BJ8 > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: > > Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings: > > https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fredwescoe at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From javrugtman at htcnet.org Mon Apr 18 16:03:42 2022 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:03:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: <00aa01d8536d$03924d50$0ab6e7f0$@sympatico.ca> References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> <00aa01d8536d$03924d50$0ab6e7f0$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <48ed4df5-85c9-3e64-901a-90926b087077@htcnet.org> It will eventually end up with driverless electric cars that we just tell where to take us, leave it at our destination and just pick another one for the ride back.? All older driver required cars being deemed illegal. John??? (won't be there for that) 66/64 BJ8s On 4/18/2022 5:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: > > My 2011 BMW is also dipstickless.? I think some bean-counter or HR > autonom told management to get rid of the dipsticks, meaning the > marketing people, but the message ended up being sent to the > engineering department. > > I sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300 pages > of generally unhelpful information and when I once had to add brake > fluid could not even tell me where the reservoir was located, telling > me to see the dealer (like hell, the interweb directed me to remove a > plastic cover near the wiper linkage and I did this mystifying and > most complicated task myself), yet the 100 page Instruction Manual for > my ?48 M.G.TC explains how to R&R the head, engine, gearbox, do a > de-coke, and even how to adjust the back-lash on the differential > crown-wheel and pinion. > > I remember when BMW?s motto was ?A Driver?s Car?.? Now it must be > something like ?A car to look good in at the golf club in? or > something similar. They certainly lost their path in my opinion. > > Mirek > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Jim > Ryan via Healeys > *Sent:* April 17, 2022 4:01 PM > *To:* Fred Wescoe > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil loss > > Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I > talk into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them > anymore. Later on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. > The way you check the oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly > flat surface with the card operating temperature and running, then you > step through the menu and there's something on there about checking > the oil it takes one or two minutes and comes back and tells you how > full it is. Personally, I think the whole thing defies logic, the > dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch, you always had something to > stick the marshmallows on at the fire pit. > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe wrote: > > I had a very interesting incident?with my Audi A6 turbo. > > I started the car a few mornings ago and after about?5 minutes, > the dashboard?screen popped?up a message saying "Caution > reduce?your oil level.? Contact your dealer."? ?I was somewhat > surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck into my garage > overnight and added oil to the engine.? So, I decided to check the > oil level.? After lifting the hood, I could not find the > dipstick?for the oil or for the transmission.? I called the dealer > who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership.? At > the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose) > and I was told everything?was fine.? I was informed that the radar > sensors?in the front grill sometimes?get too wet and could cause > false oil messages. > > I was told that my car does not?have oil and > transmission?dipsticks.? It seems that the computers read > everything and flash messages when something?is wrong. > > So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front > grill of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message. > > I'm just mentioning, > > Fred > > 66 BJ8 > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: > > Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings: > > https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fredwescoe at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/javrugtman at htcnet.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Mon Apr 18 16:14:47 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:14:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: <48ed4df5-85c9-3e64-901a-90926b087077@htcnet.org> References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> <00aa01d8536d$03924d50$0ab6e7f0$@sympatico.ca> <48ed4df5-85c9-3e64-901a-90926b087077@htcnet.org> Message-ID: <00c301d85371$b76e2b10$264a8130$@sympatico.ca> Funnily, in a sick kinda way, this movie about the last car on earth was set in 2011, the year my BMW was made: https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2453586713?playlistId=tt0082642 &ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi From: Healeys On Behalf Of John Vrugtman via Healeys Sent: April 18, 2022 6:04 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil loss It will eventually end up with driverless electric cars that we just tell where to take us, leave it at our destination and just pick another one for the ride back. All older driver required cars being deemed illegal. John (won't be there for that) 66/64 BJ8s On 4/18/2022 5:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: My 2011 BMW is also dipstickless. I think some bean-counter or HR autonom told management to get rid of the dipsticks, meaning the marketing people, but the message ended up being sent to the engineering department. I sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300 pages of generally unhelpful information and when I once had to add brake fluid could not even tell me where the reservoir was located, telling me to see the dealer (like hell, the interweb directed me to remove a plastic cover near the wiper linkage and I did this mystifying and most complicated task myself), yet the 100 page Instruction Manual for my ?48 M.G.TC explains how to R&R the head, engine, gearbox, do a de-coke, and even how to adjust the back-lash on the differential crown-wheel and pinion. I remember when BMW?s motto was ?A Driver?s Car?. Now it must be something like ?A car to look good in at the golf club in? or something similar. They certainly lost their path in my opinion. Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of Jim Ryan via Healeys Sent: April 17, 2022 4:01 PM To: Fred Wescoe Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil loss Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I talk into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them anymore. Later on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. The way you check the oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly flat surface with the card operating temperature and running, then you step through the menu and there's something on there about checking the oil it takes one or two minutes and comes back and tells you how full it is. Personally, I think the whole thing defies logic, the dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch, you always had something to stick the marshmallows on at the fire pit. On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe > wrote: I had a very interesting incident with my Audi A6 turbo. I started the car a few mornings ago and after about 5 minutes, the dashboard screen popped up a message saying "Caution reduce your oil level. Contact your dealer." I was somewhat surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck into my garage overnight and added oil to the engine. So, I decided to check the oil level. After lifting the hood, I could not find the dipstick for the oil or for the transmission. I called the dealer who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership. At the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose) and I was told everything was fine. I was informed that the radar sensors in the front grill sometimes get too wet and could cause false oil messages. I was told that my car does not have oil and transmission dipsticks. It seems that the computers read everything and flash messages when something is wrong. So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front grill of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message. I'm just mentioning, Fred 66 BJ8 On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings: https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fredwescoe at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/javrugtman at htcnet.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Apr 18 16:21:56 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:21:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: <00c301d85371$b76e2b10$264a8130$@sympatico.ca> References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> <00aa01d8536d$03924d50$0ab6e7f0$@sympatico.ca> <48ed4df5-85c9-3e64-901a-90926b087077@htcnet.org> <00c301d85371$b76e2b10$264a8130$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: We probably have to face reality. Neither of my Japanese cars use any oil at all between their 10000 km oil changes although they both do have dip sticks. Ah sigh. M On Mon., Apr. 18, 2022, 6:15 p.m. m.g.sharp--- via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Funnily, in a sick kinda way, this movie about the last car on earth was > set in 2011, the year my BMW was made: > > > > > https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2453586713?playlistId=tt0082642&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi > > > > > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *John > Vrugtman via Healeys > *Sent:* April 18, 2022 6:04 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil loss > > > > It will eventually end up with driverless electric cars that we just tell > where to take us, leave it at our destination and just pick another one for > the ride back. All older driver required cars being deemed illegal. > > John (won't be there for that) > 66/64 BJ8s > > On 4/18/2022 5:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: > > My 2011 BMW is also dipstickless. I think some bean-counter or HR autonom > told management to get rid of the dipsticks, meaning the marketing people, > but the message ended up being sent to the engineering department. > > > > I sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300 pages of > generally unhelpful information and when I once had to add brake fluid > could not even tell me where the reservoir was located, telling me to see > the dealer (like hell, the interweb directed me to remove a plastic cover > near the wiper linkage and I did this mystifying and most complicated task > myself), yet the 100 page Instruction Manual for my ?48 M.G.TC explains > how to R&R the head, engine, gearbox, do a de-coke, and even how to adjust > the back-lash on the differential crown-wheel and pinion. > > > > I remember when BMW?s motto was ?A Driver?s Car?. Now it must be > something like ?A car to look good in at the golf club in? or something > similar. They certainly lost their path in my opinion. > > > > Mirek > > > > *From:* Healeys > *On Behalf Of *Jim Ryan via Healeys > *Sent:* April 17, 2022 4:01 PM > *To:* Fred Wescoe > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil loss > > > > Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I talk > into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them anymore. Later > on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. The way you check the > oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly flat surface with the card > operating temperature and running, then you step through the menu and > there's something on there about checking the oil it takes one or two > minutes and comes back and tells you how full it is. Personally, I think > the whole thing defies logic, the dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch, > you always had something to stick the marshmallows on at the fire pit. > > > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe wrote: > > I had a very interesting incident with my Audi A6 turbo. > > > > I started the car a few mornings ago and after about 5 minutes, the > dashboard screen popped up a message saying "Caution reduce your oil > level. Contact your dealer." I was somewhat surprised at the message, > thinking someone snuck into my garage overnight and added oil to the > engine. So, I decided to check the oil level. After lifting the hood, I > could not find the dipstick for the oil or for the transmission. I called > the dealer who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership. At > the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose) and I was > told everything was fine. I was informed that the radar sensors in the > front grill sometimes get too wet and could cause false oil messages. > > > > I was told that my car does not have oil and transmission dipsticks. It > seems that the computers read everything and flash messages when > something is wrong. > > > > So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front grill of > your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message. > > > > I'm just mentioning, > > > > Fred > > 66 BJ8 > > > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings: > > > https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fredwescoe at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/javrugtman at htcnet.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Apr 18 19:15:28 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:15:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: <00c301d85371$b76e2b10$264a8130$@sympatico.ca> References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> <00aa01d8536d$03924d50$0ab6e7f0$@sympatico.ca> <48ed4df5-85c9-3e64-901a-90926b087077@htcnet.org> <00c301d85371$b76e2b10$264a8130$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <1c8c0ee2-dfab-9494-d492-089e1207b633@comcast.net> Given a choice, I'd take the Sabrejet over the car. On 4/18/2022 3:14 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: > > Funnily, in a sick kinda way, this movie about the last car on earth > was set in 2011, the year my BMW was made: > > https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2453586713?playlistId=tt0082642&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi > > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *John > Vrugtman via Healeys > *Sent:* April 18, 2022 6:04 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil loss > > It will eventually end up with driverless electric cars that we just > tell where to take us, leave it at our destination and just pick > another one for the ride back.? All older driver required cars being > deemed illegal. > > John??? (won't be there for that) > 66/64 BJ8s > > On 4/18/2022 5:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: > > My 2011 BMW is also dipstickless.? I think some bean-counter or HR > autonom told management to get rid of the dipsticks, meaning the > marketing people, but the message ended up being sent to the > engineering department. > > I sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300 > pages of generally unhelpful information and when I once had to > add brake fluid could not even tell me where the reservoir was > located, telling me to see the dealer (like hell, the interweb > directed me to remove a plastic cover near the wiper linkage and I > did this mystifying and most complicated task myself), yet the 100 > page Instruction Manual for my ?48 M.G.TC explains how to R&R the > head, engine, gearbox, do a de-coke, and even how to adjust the > back-lash on the differential crown-wheel and pinion. > > I remember when BMW?s motto was ?A Driver?s Car?.? Now it must be > something like ?A car to look good in at the golf club in? or > something similar. They certainly lost their path in my opinion. > > Mirek > > *From:*Healeys > *On Behalf Of *Jim Ryan > via Healeys > *Sent:* April 17, 2022 4:01 PM > *To:* Fred Wescoe > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil loss > > Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. > I talk into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them > anymore. Later on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no > dipstick. The way you check the oil on this one is you have to be > on a perfectly flat surface with the card operating temperature > and running, then you step through the menu and there's something > on there about checking the oil it takes one or two minutes and > comes back and tells you how full it is. Personally, I think the > whole thing defies logic, the dipstick was easier. Plus, in a > pinch, you always had something to stick the marshmallows on at > the fire pit. > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe > wrote: > > I had a very interesting incident?with my Audi A6 turbo. > > I started the car a few mornings ago and after about?5 > minutes, the dashboard?screen popped?up a message saying > "Caution reduce?your oil level.? Contact your dealer."? ?I was > somewhat surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck into > my garage overnight and added oil to the engine.? So, I > decided to check the oil level. After lifting the hood, I > could not find the dipstick?for the oil or for the > transmission.? I called the dealer who told me to drive the > car very slowly to the dealership.? At the dealership, the car > was examined (electronically I suppose) and I was told > everything?was fine.? I was informed that the radar sensors?in > the front grill sometimes?get too wet and could cause false > oil messages. > > I was told that my car does not?have oil and > transmission?dipsticks.? It seems that the computers read > everything and flash messages when something?is wrong. > > So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the > front grill of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level > message. > > I'm just mentioning, > > Fred > > 66 BJ8 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Apr 18 19:17:08 2022 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:17:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> <00aa01d8536d$03924d50$0ab6e7f0$@sympatico.ca> <48ed4df5-85c9-3e64-901a-90926b087077@htcnet.org> <00c301d85371$b76e2b10$264a8130$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: I dunno, they just put 2 new gas stations within a mile of my house. So, how will our cars do on E15? On 4/18/2022 3:21 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > We probably have to face reality. Neither of my Japanese cars use any > oil at all between their 10000 km oil changes although they both do > have dip sticks. Ah sigh. > > M > > On Mon., Apr. 18, 2022, 6:15 p.m. m.g.sharp--- via Healeys, > wrote: > > Funnily, in a sick kinda way, this movie about the last car on > earth was set in 2011, the year my BMW was made: > > https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2453586713?playlistId=tt0082642&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Apr 18 19:23:23 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:23:23 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] What part is this? Message-ID: For the life of me I am convinced this is off my BJ8 but I don?t recall where it goes. Alternatively this might be off my Jag Mk9. Clearly something important. I suspect this might be a toolbox hinge for my Jag tool boxes?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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M On Mon., Apr. 18, 2022, 9:27 p.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > For the life of me I am convinced this is off my BJ8 but I don?t recall > where it goes. > > Alternatively this might be off my Jag Mk9. > > Clearly something important. > > I suspect this might be a toolbox hinge for my Jag tool boxes?? > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[cid:image002.jpg at 01D8536A.1F3E1230] _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: BFD603C5B8FD4B948E9D0464BAA14C88.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2412692 bytes Desc: BFD603C5B8FD4B948E9D0464BAA14C88.jpg URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Mon Apr 18 21:57:16 2022 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:57:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] What part is this? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: part of a laptop keyboard with a black artifact on it Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 6:30 PM Alan Seigrist via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > For the life of me I am convinced this is off my BJ8 but I don?t recall > where it goes. > > Alternatively this might be off my Jag Mk9. > > Clearly something important. > > I suspect this might be a toolbox hinge for my Jag tool boxes?? > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image_67183617.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 2384290 bytes Desc: not available URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Apr 19 03:55:57 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:55:57 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> Message-ID: sounds like they?ve turned the idiot lights into the complete idiot box! Kind of like when I got into the new VW e-golf at the dealer and when I turned it on the screen it told me to ?check engine oil? ? I?m not kidding. I subsequently bought a good old American made Tesla instead! On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 at 8:34 PM, Fred Wescoe wrote: > I had a very interesting incident with my Audi A6 turbo. > > I started the car a few mornings ago and after about 5 minutes, the > dashboard screen popped up a message saying "Caution reduce your oil > level. Contact your dealer." I was somewhat surprised at the message, > thinking someone snuck into my garage overnight and added oil to the > engine. So, I decided to check the oil level. After lifting the hood, I > could not find the dipstick for the oil or for the transmission. I called > the dealer who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership. At > the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose) and I was > told everything was fine. I was informed that the radar sensors in the > front grill sometimes get too wet and could cause false oil messages. > > I was told that my car does not have oil and transmission dipsticks. It > seems that the computers read everything and flash messages when > something is wrong. > > So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front grill of > your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message. > > I'm just mentioning, > > Fred > 66 BJ8 > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings: >> >> >> https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fredwescoe at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also it is more flexible and probably less expensive. In practice I don't think it matters though I always opt for marine battery cable with staked on ring/eye terminals filled with solder when possible. In practice your decision may be influenced by the type of battery you have and its terminals: If it is a standard auto battery with top posts the clampterminals may fit battery cable better than welding cable. A number of years ago I replaced the two 6 Volt batts with one 12 with side terminals which accept machine thread, allowing me to use ring/eye terminals which make for a more compact installation. Sorry if this adds confusion.... Best--Michael Oritt On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 11:44 PM Ray Juncal via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I am about to make up a long battery cable ( rear battery to solenoid ). > It's a long run and I only want to do this once in the best way possible. I > appeal to the wisdom of the list for tips and suggestions. 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Name: index.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 8642 bytes Desc: not available URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Wed Apr 20 05:27:08 2022 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 07:27:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Battery cable In-Reply-To: <669998533.1481509.1650426257592@mail.yahoo.com> References: <669998533.1481509.1650426257592.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <669998533.1481509.1650426257592@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006d01d854a9$9282c700$b7885500$@sympatico.ca> Ray, for what it is worth, my 1959 BT7 still has the original battery cable and I have never had an issue with it other than I replaced the battery clamp about 10 years ago. Sometimes I think we try to fix problems that don?t exist. Relative cost is the only factor that I can see is really relevant, and I have no idea how the costs compare. From: Healeys On Behalf Of Ray Juncal via Healeys Sent: April 19, 2022 11:44 PM To: List Healey Subject: [Healeys] Battery cable I am about to make up a long battery cable ( rear battery to solenoid ). It's a long run and I only want to do this once in the best way possible. I appeal to the wisdom of the list for tips and suggestions. I have heard that heavier gauge welding cable is the trick..what about end connectors clamp or solder on? I'm not worried about a factory original look. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 8642 bytes Desc: not available URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Apr 20 07:01:53 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 21:01:53 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Battery cable In-Reply-To: <006d01d854a9$9282c700$b7885500$@sympatico.ca> References: <669998533.1481509.1650426257592.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <669998533.1481509.1650426257592@mail.yahoo.com> <006d01d854a9$9282c700$b7885500$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Yep, my BJ8 still has the original cable, it's fine. Just need to make sure the battery clamp is kept clean every couple of years. the downside is the boot over the solenoid terminal is rock hard now..... hard to remove! Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 7:30 PM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Ray, for what it is worth, my 1959 BT7 still has the original battery > cable and I have never had an issue with it other than I replaced the > battery clamp about 10 years ago. Sometimes I think we try to fix problems > that don?t exist. Relative cost is the only factor that I can see is > really relevant, and I have no idea how the costs compare. > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Ray > Juncal via Healeys > *Sent:* April 19, 2022 11:44 PM > *To:* List Healey > *Subject:* [Healeys] Battery cable > > > > I am about to make up a long battery cable ( rear battery to solenoid ). > It's a long run and I only want to do this once in the best way possible. I > appeal to the wisdom of the list for tips and suggestions. I have heard > that heavier gauge welding cable is the trick..what about end connectors > clamp or solder on? 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 8642 bytes Desc: not available URL: From llennep at verizon.net Wed Apr 20 08:21:02 2022 From: llennep at verizon.net (llennep at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 14:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Battery cable In-Reply-To: References: <669998533.1481509.1650426257592.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <669998533.1481509.1650426257592@mail.yahoo.com> <006d01d854a9$9282c700$b7885500$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <1788344503.1600913.1650464462711@mail.yahoo.com> With the number of orig good cables I would guess are still out there why not go with that? ?Merely replace the attachments if necessary. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Seigrist via Healeys To: Mirek Sharp Cc: List Healey Sent: Wed, Apr 20, 2022 9:01 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Battery cable Yep, my BJ8 still has the original cable, it's fine.? Just need to make sure the battery clamp is kept clean every couple of years.? the downside is the boot over the solenoid terminal is rock hard now..... hard to remove! Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 7:30 PM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: Ray, for what it is worth, my 1959 BT7 still has the original battery cable and I have never had an issue with it other than I replaced? the battery clamp about 10 years ago.? Sometimes I think we try to fix problems that don?t exist.? Relative cost is? the only factor that I can see is really relevant, and I have no idea how the costs compare.?From: Healeys On Behalf Of Ray Juncal via Healeys Sent: April 19, 2022 11:44 PM To: List Healey Subject: [Healeys] Battery cable?I am about to make up a long battery cable ( rear battery to solenoid ). It's a long run and I only want to do this once in the best way possible. I appeal to the wisdom of the list for tips and suggestions. I have heard that heavier gauge welding cable is the trick..what about end connectors clamp or solder on? I'm not worried about a factory original look.??_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Clearly there are alternatives which is why I posted about using battery cable versus welding cable and I should add that marine-grade cable, while expensive, would probably be the best choice as the wire is tinned and the jacket is fuel-proof. Same deal with battery styles and connections--if you don't mind periodically dealing with corrosion building up at battery posts then stick with "original" style batteries and post clamps. However I think the "best way possible" would be to use a battery that has threaded terminals, preferably on the side and use tinned marine-grade terminals that are soldered and/or staked on. People poo-poo the term "marine-grade" as simply being a means of increasing the price of a part. This may be the case with some things but there is a real difference when it comes to electrical wires, terminals and switches. Go to a store that sells good marine hardware--preferably an independent versus a chain such as West Marine where everything is blister-packaged. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:22 AM llennep--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > With the number of orig good cables I would guess are still out there why > not go with that? Merely replace the attachments if necessary. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Seigrist via Healeys > To: Mirek Sharp > Cc: List Healey > Sent: Wed, Apr 20, 2022 9:01 am > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Battery cable > > Yep, my BJ8 still has the original cable, it's fine. Just need to make > sure the battery clamp is kept clean every couple of years. the downside > is the boot over the solenoid terminal is rock hard now..... hard to > remove! > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 7:30 PM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Ray, for what it is worth, my 1959 BT7 still has the original battery > cable and I have never had an issue with it other than I replaced the > battery clamp about 10 years ago. Sometimes I think we try to fix problems > that don?t exist. Relative cost is the only factor that I can see is > really relevant, and I have no idea how the costs compare. > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Ray > Juncal via Healeys > *Sent:* April 19, 2022 11:44 PM > *To:* List Healey > *Subject:* [Healeys] Battery cable > > I am about to make up a long battery cable ( rear battery to solenoid ). > It's a long run and I only want to do this once in the best way possible. I > appeal to the wisdom of the list for tips and suggestions. I have heard > that heavier gauge welding cable is the trick..what about end connectors > clamp or solder on? I'm not worried about a factory original look. > > [image: Inline image] > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 4/20/2022 2:50 AM, Michael Oritt wrote: > Ray-- > > As I recall from my boating days battery cable is superior to welding > cable in two respects: it has heavier and more fuel and > water-resistant?jacketing and the individual?copper strands have > larger cross-sections, making them less likely to break due to > flexion, etc. with marine-grade cable being better than automotive > because the jacketting is supposedly more oil/solvent/water-proof.? > However welding cable is superior as--gauge?for gauge--there is more > copper in the cross-section since the strands are smaller and thus > more numerous.? Also it is more flexible and probably less expensive.? > In practice I don't think it matters though I always opt for marine > battery cable with staked on ring/eye terminals filled with solder > when possible. > > In practice your decision may be influenced?by the type of battery you > have and its?terminals:? If it is a standard auto battery with top > posts the clampterminals may fit battery cable better than welding > cable.? A number of years ago I replaced the two 6 Volt?batts with one > 12 with side?terminals which accept machine thread, allowing?me to use > ring/eye terminals which make for a more compact installation. > > Sorry if this adds confusion.... > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 11:44 PM Ray Juncal via Healeys > wrote: > > I am about to make up a long battery cable ( rear battery to > solenoid ). It's a long run and I only want to do this once in the > best way possible. I appeal to the wisdom of the list for tips and > suggestions. I have heard that heavier gauge welding cable is the > trick..what about end connectors clamp or solder on? I'm not > worried about a factory original look. > > Inline image > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From manifold at telus.net Wed Apr 20 11:06:44 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 10:06:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Battery cable In-Reply-To: References: <669998533.1481509.1650426257592.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <669998533.1481509.1650426257592@mail.yahoo.com> , Message-ID: <438A2C71-1021-4F98-BBFC-542E9292CE3F@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ah3000me at gmail.com Wed Apr 20 14:29:04 2022 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 16:29:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil loss In-Reply-To: References: <01710f5b-0aea-bae7-780f-b11862c22caf@comcast.net> Message-ID: My 2010 BMW X3 may not have a dip stick, but it does have stick... last year BMW put a manual transmission in the X3. It was a small price to pay to get a manual transmission. - Tom On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 5:56 AM Alan Seigrist via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > sounds like they?ve turned the idiot lights into the complete idiot box! > > Kind of like when I got into the new VW e-golf at the dealer and when I > turned it on the screen it told me to ?check engine oil? ? I?m not > kidding. I subsequently bought a good old American made Tesla instead! > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 at 8:34 PM, Fred Wescoe wrote: > >> I had a very interesting incident with my Audi A6 turbo. >> >> I started the car a few mornings ago and after about 5 minutes, the >> dashboard screen popped up a message saying "Caution reduce your oil >> level. Contact your dealer." I was somewhat surprised at the message, >> thinking someone snuck into my garage overnight and added oil to the >> engine. So, I decided to check the oil level. After lifting the hood, I >> could not find the dipstick for the oil or for the transmission. I called >> the dealer who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership. At >> the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose) and I was >> told everything was fine. I was informed that the radar sensors in the >> front grill sometimes get too wet and could cause false oil messages. >> >> I was told that my car does not have oil and transmission dipsticks. It >> seems that the computers read everything and flash messages when >> something is wrong. >> >> So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front grill of >> your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message. >> >> I'm just mentioning, >> >> Fred >> 66 BJ8 >> >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings: >>> >>> >>> https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fredwescoe at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah3000me at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I subsequently bought a good old American made > Tesla instead! > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 at 8:34 PM, Fred Wescoe > wrote: > > I had a very interesting incident?with my Audi A6 turbo. > > I started the car a few mornings ago and after about?5 > minutes, the dashboard?screen popped?up a message saying > "Caution reduce?your oil level. Contact your dealer."? ?I was > somewhat surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck into > my garage overnight and added oil to the engine.? So, I > decided to check the oil level.? After lifting the hood, I > could not find the dipstick?for the oil or for the > transmission.? I called the dealer who told me to drive the > car very slowly to the dealership. At the dealership, the car > was examined (electronically I suppose) and I was told > everything?was fine.? I was informed that the radar sensors?in > the front grill sometimes?get too wet and could cause false > oil messages. > > I was told that my car does not?have oil and > transmission?dipsticks.? It seems that the computers read > everything and flash messages when something?is wrong. > > So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the > front grill of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level > message. > > I'm just mentioning, > > Fred > 66 BJ8 > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: > > Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell > housings: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I used a lot of Flux and heated up both connectors filled with solder and pushed heated cable ends. Has worked great until I noticed that a p clip wore through the insulation!!!. Don't know how I did not short out my car?. I wrapped with electrical tape. Bought 4 gauge cable off of ebay and need to solder on new connectors. Check under your cars On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 10:07 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > In my experience the weak spot for battery cables is not the type of cable > but the connectors. Our Healey?s use 4 Ga stranded and there are two common > options. PVC insulated and rubber insulated. Automotive wire is the PVC > insulated version and made to an SAE Standard. I would ignore all of this > and buy a good quality premade cable from a known supplier that has all of > the proper tools and equipment to properly crimp the end connections. > > > > Harold > > > > *From: *Michael Salter via Healeys > *Sent: *Wednesday, April 20, 2022 9:54 AM > *To: *Bob Spidell > *Cc: *healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Battery cable > > > > I know that originality was not a requirement insofar as Ray was concerned > but I thought I would mention, for those interested, that Autosparks > actually stock exact original specification battery cable > > > > > https://www.autosparks.co.uk/electrical-components/cables/170-amp-braided-battery-cable-black-37-0-90 > > > > M > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think Mike Scroggie was the President for the Morro Bay Meet, maybe he will have in his files. Mike? As I recall it was Hwy 1 north to Old Creek Road. Right onto Old Creek. Right on Hwy 46. Left on Vineyard Drive. Right on Adelaida Road. Right on Nacimiento Lake Drive into Paso Robles. Ken if you go back there, check out the Allegretto Resort in Paso. Very Tuscan. Steve Kirby President Austin Healey Association of Southern California 22831 Avenida Empresa Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688 USA Direct: (949) 261-8208 Fax: (949) 767-5949 Cell: (949) 903-0957 Skype: steve.kirby29 www.austin-healey.org From: Neil Anderson Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 2:27 PM To: Steve Kirby Subject: Fwd: [Healeys] CHW 2014 route Steve, Would any of your members or your CHW planning notes be able to help Ken with this question? Thanks Neil ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ken via Healeys > Date: Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 10:48 AM Subject: [Healeys] CHW 2014 route To: > Ref California Healey Week 2014. Does someone have the exact route we took on the drive from Morro Bay to Passo Robles past a lot of wineries? My wife and I were around there but couldn't remember this past week. The Healey Happenings didn't elaborate beyond partially Hwy 46 Ken Freese 65 BJ8 Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Right on Hwy 46. Left on Vineyard Drive. Right on Adelaida > Road. Right on Nacimiento Lake Drive into Paso Robles. > > Ken if you go back there, check out the Allegretto Resort in Paso. > Very Tuscan. > > STEVE KIRBY > > PRESIDENT > > AUSTIN HEALEY ASSOCIATION OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA > > 22831 Avenida Empresa > > Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688 USA > > Direct: (949) 261-8208 > > Fax: (949) 767-5949 > > Cell: (949) 903-0957 > > Skype: steve.kirby29 > > _www.AUSTIN-HEALEY.org_ > > FROM: Neil Anderson > SENT: Monday, April 18, 2022 2:27 PM > TO: Steve Kirby > SUBJECT: Fwd: [Healeys] CHW 2014 route > > Steve, > > Would any of your members or your CHW planning notes be able to help > Ken with this question? > > Thanks > > Neil > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: KEN VIA HEALEYS > Date: Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 10:48 AM > Subject: [Healeys] CHW 2014 route > To: > > Ref California Healey Week 2014. > > Does someone have the exact route we took on the drive from Morro Bay > to Passo Robles past a lot of wineries? My wife and I were around > there but couldn't remember this past week. 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David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org -----Original Message----- From: Ken Freese via Healeys Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 8:57 AM To: Steve Kirby Cc: healeys at autox.team.net ; MIke Scroggie Subject: Re: [Healeys] CHW 2014 route Steve, Your memory is pretty good. That is the route. It wasn't the Poker run. We drove around on Friday and ended up wine tasting at Edna Valley which was good. Next time we will rerun the AH route. Ken Freese On 2022-04-18 15:07, Steve Kirby via Healeys wrote: > Neil, Ken, > > I looked in my files and only had the Poker Run route. I think Mike > Scroggie was the President for the Morro Bay Meet, maybe he will have > in his files. Mike? > > As I recall it was Hwy 1 north to Old Creek Road. Right onto Old > Creek. Right on Hwy 46. Left on Vineyard Drive. Right on Adelaida > Road. Right on Nacimiento Lake Drive into Paso Robles. > > Ken if you go back there, check out the Allegretto Resort in Paso. > Very Tuscan. > > STEVE KIRBY > > PRESIDENT > > AUSTIN HEALEY ASSOCIATION OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA > > 22831 Avenida Empresa > > Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688 USA > > Direct: (949) 261-8208 > > Fax: (949) 767-5949 > > Cell: (949) 903-0957 > > Skype: steve.kirby29 > > _www.AUSTIN-HEALEY.org_ > > FROM: Neil Anderson > SENT: Monday, April 18, 2022 2:27 PM > TO: Steve Kirby > SUBJECT: Fwd: [Healeys] CHW 2014 route > > Steve, > > Would any of your members or your CHW planning notes be able to help > Ken with this question? > > Thanks > > Neil > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: KEN VIA HEALEYS > Date: Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 10:48 AM > Subject: [Healeys] CHW 2014 route > To: > > Ref California Healey Week 2014. > > Does someone have the exact route we took on the drive from Morro Bay > to Passo Robles past a lot of wineries? My wife and I were around > there but couldn't remember this past week. 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Good wine, and they treated our wine group very well last year. Mike On 4/21/2022 9:34 AM, David Nock via Healeys wrote: > Ken, I seem to remember that? the GGAHC met up at Tobin James Winery > along the route. > > > > David Nock > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > 209 948 8767 > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the > British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites > by visiting the site at. > www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org > -----Original Message----- From: Ken Freese via Healeys > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 8:57 AM > To: Steve Kirby > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net ; MIke Scroggie > Subject: Re: [Healeys] CHW 2014 route > > Steve, > Your memory is pretty good. That is the route. It wasn't the Poker run. > We drove around on Friday and ended up wine tasting at Edna Valley which > was good. Next time we will rerun the AH route. > Ken Freese > > > On 2022-04-18 15:07, Steve Kirby via Healeys wrote: >> Neil,? Ken, >> >> I looked in my files and only had the Poker Run route.? I think Mike >> Scroggie was the President for the Morro Bay Meet, maybe he will have >> in his files.? Mike? >> >> As I recall it was Hwy 1 north to Old Creek Road.? Right onto Old >> Creek.? Right on Hwy 46.? Left on Vineyard Drive.? Right on Adelaida >> Road. Right on Nacimiento Lake Drive into Paso Robles. >> >> Ken if you go back there, check out the Allegretto Resort in Paso. >> Very Tuscan. >> >> STEVE KIRBY >> >> PRESIDENT >> >> AUSTIN HEALEY ASSOCIATION OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA >> >> 22831 Avenida Empresa >> >> Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688 USA >> >> Direct:? (949) 261-8208 >> >> Fax:? (949) 767-5949 >> >> Cell:? (949) 903-0957 >> >> Skype: steve.kirby29 >> >> _www.AUSTIN-HEALEY.org_ >> >> FROM: Neil Anderson >> SENT: Monday, April 18, 2022 2:27 PM >> TO: Steve Kirby >> SUBJECT: Fwd: [Healeys] CHW 2014 route >> >> Steve, >> >> Would any of your members or your CHW planning notes be able to help >> Ken with this question? >> >> Thanks >> >> Neil >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: KEN VIA HEALEYS >> Date: Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 10:48 AM >> Subject: [Healeys] CHW 2014 route >> To: >> >> Ref California Healey Week 2014. >> >> Does someone have the exact route we took on the drive from Morro Bay >> to Passo Robles past a lot of wineries? My wife and I were around >> there but couldn't remember this past week. 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Mike MacLean CABLE - BATTERY TO SOLENOID (POS EARTH) | | | | CABLE - BATTERY TO SOLENOID (POS EARTH) CABLE - BATTERY TO SOLENOID (POS EARTH) | | | CABLE - SOLENOID TO STARTER | | | | CABLE - SOLENOID TO STARTER CABLE - SOLENOID TO STARTER | | | CABLE - BATTERY LINK | | | | CABLE - BATTERY LINK CABLE - BATTERY LINK | | | On Thursday, April 21, 2022, 06:55:32 AM PDT, i erbs wrote: I made my own cable 15 years ago and soldered the ends using a propane torch. Used a brass helmet connector on the battery end. I used a lot of Flux and? heated up both connectors filled with solder and pushed heated cable ends. Has worked great until I noticed that a p clip wore through the insulation!!!. Don't know how I did not short out my car?. I wrapped with electrical tape. Bought 4 gauge cable off of ebay and need to solder on new connectors.Check under your cars On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 10:07 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: In my experience the weak spot for battery cables is not the type of cable but the connectors. Our Healey?s use 4 Ga stranded and there are two common options. PVC insulated and rubber insulated. Automotive wire is the PVC insulated version and made to an SAE Standard. I would ignore all of this and buy a good quality premade cable from a known supplier that has all of the proper tools and equipment to properly crimp the end connections. ? Harold ? From: Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2022 9:54 AM To: Bob Spidell Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Battery cable ? I know that originality was not a requirement insofar as Ray was concerned but I thought I would mention, for those interested, that Autosparks actually stock exact original specification battery cable ? https://www.autosparks.co.uk/electrical-components/cables/170-amp-braided-battery-cable-black-37-0-90 ? 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Many > thanks. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alanwassermannc at gmail.com Sun Apr 24 16:12:20 2022 From: alanwassermannc at gmail.com (Alan Wasserman) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 18:12:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 Message-ID: <959403B6-E026-44C9-B542-1D2A36BC87CF@gmail.com> Hello fellow enjoyers. I have a ?66 AH Mk III BJ8 Phase 2 and am on the long road to a Concours judging. I was hoping one or more of you have won a Concours level and would be kind enough to share some close up pictures of your engine. 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Do you recommend any other publications, sites, original marketing lit that I should have and study? Would love to have close ups of the BJ8 engine to compare. See, attached, my present engine look (which I know I have to change: 1. paint heater return pipe (completed since the picture), 2. replace fuel mesh from carb to carb and then front carb to engine, 3. probably?? strip black paint off front choke wire bracket (there appears to be a question as it was black for the BJ7, I believe and 4. change out the ignition coil for original). Anything else that strikes your imagination would be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU!! > On Apr 24, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Alan Wasserman wrote: > > Hello fellow enjoyers. I have a ?66 AH Mk III BJ8 Phase 2 and am on the long road to a Concours judging. I was hoping one or more of you have won a Concours level and would be kind enough to share some close up pictures of your engine. 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(what's a mesh?), but the only fuel filters on a BJ8 are the little, thimble-shaped fine screens on the carb inlets (not visible) I've never seen adel clamps on a Healey that weren't owner-installed. I bought my car at 64K miles, and it just had the ubiquitous metal P-clip on the front choke cable bracket (might have a rubber liner, though) Bumble bee ignition secondaries were only used on competition cars. #1 and #5 wires had O-rings to group the wires. Never seen that type of plug cap--with 'Champion'--on a stock car Servo vacuum line looks to have an inline check valve; original Girling servos had one on the servo body only (new ones not available AFAIK) Hood latch should have about a 3-inch rubber tube on the return spring (can't tell what's there from the photo) Not sure what the purple wire coming through the firewall near the voltage regulator is; think I see a blue crimp terminal on/near it AFAIK, no Healeys came from the factory with Texas Cooler fans Nice car. On 4/24/2022 4:46 PM, Alan Wasserman via Healeys wrote: > Thank you for the quick response, Michael. ?I have a number of > questions and will await the return of my toy (in about a week) to go > over them. ?I have the present Concours Guidelines and have studied > them extensively, along with Bill Piggotts book Factory Original?, the > (green) Shop Manuel and a restoration reference. ?Do you recommend any > other publications, sites, original marketing lit that I should have > and study? ?Would love to have close ups of the BJ8 engine to compare. > ?See, attached, my present engine look (which I know I have to change: > 1. ?paint heater return pipe (completed since the picture), 2. replace > fuel mesh from carb to carb and then front carb to engine, 3. > ?probably?? strip black paint off front choke wire bracket (there > appears to be a question as it was black for the BJ7, I believe and 4. > change out the ignition coil for original). ?Anything else that > strikes your imagination would be greatly appreciated. ?THANK YOU!! > >> On Apr 24, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Alan Wasserman >> wrote: >> >> Hello fellow enjoyers. ?I have a ?66 AH Mk III BJ8 Phase 2 and am on >> the long road to a Concours judging. ?I was hoping one or more of you >> have won a Concours level and would be kind enough to share some >> close up pictures of your engine. ?Any help would be appreciated and >> thank you in advance. >> >> Alan Wasserman >> alanwassermannc at gmail.com >> 732-887-0742 >> www.wassermanstudio.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Alan Wasserman > alanwassermannc at gmail.com > 732-887-0742 > www.wassermanstudio.com > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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While I would not discourage anyone to enter their car in Concours let me tell you that it is something that is much easier to accomplish while your car is being restored, not when it is finished as yours is as you will have to dismantle a fair amount just in the engine bay from what I can see. However if this is a challenge you are ready to tackle, so be it. Read and re-read everything in the Concours Guidelines several times over and then tackle the tasks in section, such as the engine bay, then the interior, then the trunk area. Not knowing when your car was restored, it is difficult to say to what level it is already at. As an example, the Guidelines now require that undercoating be added in various areas under the car and then, the undercoating is painted over in body colour. In order to accomplish that, if not done already, will certainly involve an fair amount of work and perhaps dismantling of several components to accomplish the task. Perhaps you already have done the job of determining what level your car is currently at and that you know what it will take to make it a Gold level car. If not, that to me, would be the first steps to determine if you feel this is something you want to tackle. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows From: Alan Wasserman via Healeys Sent: April 24, 2022 5:13 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Alan Wasserman Subject: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 Hello fellow enjoyers. I have a ?66 AH Mk III BJ8 Phase 2 and am on the long road to a Concours judging. I was hoping one or more of you have won a Concours level and would be kind enough to share some close up pictures of your engine. Any help would be appreciated and thank you in advance. Alan Wasserman alanwassermannc at gmail.com 732-887-0742 www.wassermanstudio.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I bought my car at 64K miles, and it just had the ubiquitous metal P-clip on the front choke cable bracket (might have a rubber liner, though) > > Bumble bee ignition secondaries were only used on competition cars. #1 and #5 wires had O-rings to group the wires. Never seen that type of plug cap--with 'Champion'--on a stock car > > Servo vacuum line looks to have an inline check valve; original Girling servos had one on the servo body only (new ones not available AFAIK) > > Hood latch should have about a 3-inch rubber tube on the return spring (can't tell what's there from the photo) > > Not sure what the purple wire coming through the firewall near the voltage regulator is; think I see a blue crimp terminal on/near it > > AFAIK, no Healeys came from the factory with Texas Cooler fans > > > Nice car. > > > On 4/24/2022 4:46 PM, Alan Wasserman via Healeys wrote: >> Thank you for the quick response, Michael. I have a number of questions and will await the return of my toy (in about a week) to go over them. I have the present Concours Guidelines and have studied them extensively, along with Bill Piggotts book Factory Original?, the (green) Shop Manuel and a restoration reference. Do you recommend any other publications, sites, original marketing lit that I should have and study? Would love to have close ups of the BJ8 engine to compare. See, attached, my present engine look (which I know I have to change: 1. paint heater return pipe (completed since the picture), 2. replace fuel mesh from carb to carb and then front carb to engine, 3. probably?? strip black paint off front choke wire bracket (there appears to be a question as it was black for the BJ7, I believe and 4. change out the ignition coil for original). Anything else that strikes your imagination would be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU!! >> >>> On Apr 24, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Alan Wasserman wrote: >>> >>> Hello fellow enjoyers. I have a ?66 AH Mk III BJ8 Phase 2 and am on the long road to a Concours judging. I was hoping one or more of you have won a Concours level and would be kind enough to share some close up pictures of your engine. Any help would be appreciated and thank you in advance. >>> >>> Alan Wasserman >>> alanwassermannc at gmail.com >>> 732-887-0742 >>> www.wassermanstudio.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Alan Wasserman >> alanwassermannc at gmail.com >> 732-887-0742 >> www.wassermanstudio.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Paint Concours perfect with a professional ceramic application. Engine cleaned and painted last week. Trim being worked on this week. Alan Wasserman Alanwassermannc at gmail.com 732-887-0742 www.wassermanstudio.com > On Apr 24, 2022, at 9:49 PM, Jean Caron wrote: > > ? > Alan, > First of all you have a very nice car from just seeing the engine bay. While I would not discourage anyone to enter their car in Concours let me tell you that it is something that is much easier to accomplish while your car is being restored, not when it is finished as yours is as you will have to dismantle a fair amount just in the engine bay from what I can see. However if this is a challenge you are ready to tackle, so be it. > Read and re-read everything in the Concours Guidelines several times over and then tackle the tasks in section, such as the engine bay, then the interior, then the trunk area. Not knowing when your car was restored, it is difficult to say to what level it is already at. As an example, the Guidelines now require that undercoating be added in various areas under the car and then, the undercoating is painted over in body colour. In order to accomplish that, if not done already, will certainly involve an fair amount of work and perhaps dismantling of several components to accomplish the task. > Perhaps you already have done the job of determining what level your car is currently at and that you know what it will take to make it a Gold level car. If not, that to me, would be the first steps to determine if you feel this is something you want to tackle. > > Jean > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > From: Alan Wasserman via Healeys > Sent: April 24, 2022 5:13 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: Alan Wasserman > Subject: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 > > Hello fellow enjoyers. I have a ?66 AH Mk III BJ8 Phase 2 and am on the long road to a Concours judging. I was hoping one or more of you have won a Concours level and would be kind enough to share some close up pictures of your engine. Any help would be appreciated and thank you in advance. > > Alan Wasserman > alanwassermannc at gmail.com > 732-887-0742 > www.wassermanstudio.com > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 896523 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Much appreciated,Perry. Alan Wasserman Alanwassermannc at gmail.com 732-887-0742 www.wassermanstudio.com > On Apr 24, 2022, at 9:57 PM, Perry Small wrote: > > ?Allan > Check the black paint on the gas pedal linkage and the sticker on the brake fluid reservoir. > Perry > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Apr 24, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: >>> >> ? I'm not a concours winner--my car is a grizzled road warrior--but some things stand out: >> >> Intake and exhaust manifolds should be painted engine color (exhaust manifold paint largely burns off) >> >> Not sure what this means: "... replace fuel mesh from carb to carb and then front carb to engine ..." (what's a mesh?), but the only fuel filters on a BJ8 are the little, thimble-shaped fine screens on the carb inlets (not visible) >> >> I've never seen adel clamps on a Healey that weren't owner-installed. I bought my car at 64K miles, and it just had the ubiquitous metal P-clip on the front choke cable bracket (might have a rubber liner, though) >> >> Bumble bee ignition secondaries were only used on competition cars. #1 and #5 wires had O-rings to group the wires. Never seen that type of plug cap--with 'Champion'--on a stock car >> >> Servo vacuum line looks to have an inline check valve; original Girling servos had one on the servo body only (new ones not available AFAIK) >> >> Hood latch should have about a 3-inch rubber tube on the return spring (can't tell what's there from the photo) >> >> Not sure what the purple wire coming through the firewall near the voltage regulator is; think I see a blue crimp terminal on/near it >> >> AFAIK, no Healeys came from the factory with Texas Cooler fans >> >> >> Nice car. >> >> >> On 4/24/2022 4:46 PM, Alan Wasserman via Healeys wrote: >>> Thank you for the quick response, Michael. I have a number of questions and will await the return of my toy (in about a week) to go over them. I have the present Concours Guidelines and have studied them extensively, along with Bill Piggotts book Factory Original?, the (green) Shop Manuel and a restoration reference. Do you recommend any other publications, sites, original marketing lit that I should have and study? Would love to have close ups of the BJ8 engine to compare. See, attached, my present engine look (which I know I have to change: 1. paint heater return pipe (completed since the picture), 2. replace fuel mesh from carb to carb and then front carb to engine, 3. probably?? strip black paint off front choke wire bracket (there appears to be a question as it was black for the BJ7, I believe and 4. change out the ignition coil for original). Anything else that strikes your imagination would be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU!! >>> >>> >>> <6577CC73-FEA1-4031-9F2E-3562DCDE3EBA.jpeg> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 24, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Alan Wasserman wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello fellow enjoyers. I have a ?66 AH Mk III BJ8 Phase 2 and am on the long road to a Concours judging. I was hoping one or more of you have won a Concours level and would be kind enough to share some close up pictures of your engine. Any help would be appreciated and thank you in advance. >>>> >>>> Alan Wasserman >>>> alanwassermannc at gmail.com >>>> 732-887-0742 >>>> www.wassermanstudio.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Alan Wasserman >>> alanwassermannc at gmail.com >>> 732-887-0742 >>> www.wassermanstudio.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(what's a mesh?), but the only fuel filters on a BJ8 are the little, thimble-shaped fine screens on the carb inlets (not visible) I've never seen adel clamps on a Healey that weren't owner-installed. I bought my car at 64K miles, and it just had the ubiquitous metal P-clip on the front choke cable bracket (might have a rubber liner, though) Bumble bee ignition secondaries were only used on competition cars. #1 and #5 wires had O-rings to group the wires. Never seen that type of plug cap--with 'Champion'--on a stock car Servo vacuum line looks to have an inline check valve; original Girling servos had one on the servo body only (new ones not available AFAIK) Hood latch should have about a 3-inch rubber tube on the return spring (can't tell what's there from the photo) Not sure what the purple wire coming through the firewall near the voltage regulator is; think I see a blue crimp terminal on/near it AFAIK, no Healeys came from the factory with Texas Cooler fans Nice car. On 4/24/2022 4:46 PM, Alan Wasserman via Healeys wrote: Thank you for the quick response, Michael. I have a number of questions and will await the return of my toy (in about a week) to go over them. I have the present Concours Guidelines and have studied them extensively, along with Bill Piggotts book Factory Original?, the (green) Shop Manuel and a restoration reference. Do you recommend any other publications, sites, original marketing lit that I should have and study? Would love to have close ups of the BJ8 engine to compare. See, attached, my present engine look (which I know I have to change: 1. paint heater return pipe (completed since the picture), 2. replace fuel mesh from carb to carb and then front carb to engine, 3. probably?? strip black paint off front choke wire bracket (there appears to be a question as it was black for the BJ7, I believe and 4. change out the ignition coil for original). Anything else that strikes your imagination would be greatly appreciated. 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Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: > Sent: Sunday April 24 2022 6:24:51PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 > > I'm not a concours winner--my car is a grizzled road warrior--but some > things stand out: > > Intake and exhaust manifolds should be painted engine color (exhaust > manifold paint largely burns off) > > Not sure what this means: "... replace fuel mesh from carb to carb and > then front carb to engine ..." (what's a mesh?), but the only fuel > filters on a BJ8 are the little, thimble-shaped fine screens on the > carb inlets (not visible) > > I've never seen adel clamps on a Healey that weren't owner-installed. > I bought my car at 64K miles, and it just had the ubiquitous metal > P-clip on the front choke cable bracket (might have a rubber liner, > though) > > Bumble bee ignition secondaries were only used on competition cars. > #1 and #5 wires had O-rings to group the wires. Never seen that > type of plug cap--with 'Champion'--on a stock car > > Servo vacuum line looks to have an inline check valve; original > Girling servos had one on the servo body only (new ones not available > AFAIK) > > Hood latch should have about a 3-inch rubber tube on the return spring > (can't tell what's there from the photo) > > Not sure what the purple wire coming through the firewall near the > voltage regulator is; think I see a blue crimp terminal on/near it > > AFAIK, no Healeys came from the factory with Texas Cooler fans > > > Nice car. > > > On 4/24/2022 4:46 PM, Alan Wasserman via Healeys wrote: > > Thank you for the quick response, Michael. ?I have a number of > questions and will await the return of my toy (in about a week) to > go over them. ?I have the present Concours Guidelines and have > studied them extensively, along with Bill Piggotts book Factory > Original?, the (green) Shop Manuel and a restoration reference. > ?Do you recommend any other publications, sites, original > marketing lit that I should have and study? ?Would love to have > close ups of the BJ8 engine to compare. ?See, attached, my present > engine look (which I know I have to change: 1. ?paint heater > return pipe (completed since the picture), 2. replace fuel mesh > from carb to carb and then front carb to engine, 3. ?probably?? > strip black paint off front choke wire bracket (there appears to > be a question as it was black for the BJ7, I believe and 4. change > out the ignition coil for original). ?Anything else that strikes > your imagination would be greatly appreciated. ?THANK > YOU!!INBOX54222ee7ca7888a1811a4e1d70aecb047eeINBOX5422243544f3f7e9441655a4956c5719ce5INBOX54222dbc2fed9ec47a703d3b4cff19406a0 > > On Apr 24, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Alan Wasserman > wrote: > > Hello fellow enjoyers. ?I have a ?66 AH Mk III BJ8 Phase 2 and > am on the long road to a Concours judging. ?I was hoping one > or more of you have won a Concours level and would be kind > enough to share some close up pictures of your engine. ?Any > help would be appreciated and thank you in advance. > > Alan Wasserman > alanwassermannc at gmail.com > 732-887-0742 > www.wassermanstudio.com > > > > > > > > > Alan Wasserman > alanwassermannc at gmail.com > 732-887-0742 > www.wassermanstudio.com > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would suggest maybe around every 20K miles it's worth taking them apart and repacking, or whenever you replace the brake pads. I think on my BJ8 I probably haven't touched them in 40K miles. Best, Alan On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:57 AM Mark Fawcett via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I've looked over the owners manual and I haven't got a clear indication of > how often the front wheel bearings should be repacked on an early 3000. It > seems to suggest every 6000 miles, but that seems a bit excessive. 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You may have the same one as mine as they were quite popular for show and some heat dissipation (a little bit). There is no side vent- the crankcase vent is at the T which vents to rear carb (as original). Regards, Hank -----------------------------------------From: rfbegani at gmail.com To: "Bob Spidell" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday April 26 2022 11:35:27AM Subject: RE: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 Henry: First time I have seen my finned valve cover, except you have a sport style cap and you do not have a side vent. So is this valve cover original to my BJ8? Bob Begani FROM: Healeys ON BEHALF OF Henry G Leach via Healeys SENT: Monday, April 25, 2022 12:36 PM TO: 'Bob Spidell' CC: 'healeys at autox.team.net' SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 Here is a stock engine bay on '66 bought new...other than finned valve cover (with nuts chrome caps-removed for concours) and Stant radiator cap, its completely stock with original "fuel mesh" lines. 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Am I > missing something? > > Mark Fawcett > 1959 BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyray at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 14:38:57 2022 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Gas Tanks References: <798706172.1637520.1651005537295.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <798706172.1637520.1651005537295@mail.yahoo.com> So brake and fuel lines are in. Time for the gas tank. I have two pretty nice looking tanks I've had stashed for this occasion. Well they were pretty nice until I started scraping the undercoat off and found the rust termites. I'm looking for a new tank and leaning toward the Moss steel one. Advise,warnings and suggestions please. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_5030.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2695590 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Tue Apr 26 14:47:20 2022 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:47:20 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: RE: Concours BJ8 Message-ID: <8baa2cff918d174bbb56cd6093ebd03d62d03540@webmail> Guys-sorry that I sent that jazzed up photo of an original engine bay. This is how the car is today. I found some old prints of the car with just 100 miles from new. They are not the greatest, as they faded dramatically, but here they are any way...maybe you can copy them to your computer and blow them up to see some more detail. This car and engine is untouched in 1966. White wall tires were "standard" Hank -----------------------------------------From: gradea1 at charter.net To: "rfbegani at gmail.com" Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday April 26 2022 11:58:26AM Subject: RE: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 Bob-this valve cover was available in the late '60s early '70s from aftermarket supplier. I still have the stock green cover in my storage closet. I use it if I concours the car. (This one is not "approved" by concours committee. You may have the same one as mine as they were quite popular for show and some heat dissipation (a little bit). There is no side vent- the crankcase vent is at the T which vents to rear carb (as original). Regards, Hank ----------------------------------------- From: rfbegani at gmail.com To: "Bob Spidell" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday April 26 2022 11:35:27AM Subject: RE: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 Henry: First time I have seen my finned valve cover, except you have a sport style cap and you do not have a side vent. So is this valve cover original to my BJ8? Bob Begani FROM: Healeys ON BEHALF OF Henry G Leach via Healeys SENT: Monday, April 25, 2022 12:36 PM TO: 'Bob Spidell' CC: 'healeys at autox.team.net' SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 Here is a stock engine bay on '66 bought new...other than finned valve cover (with nuts chrome caps-removed for concours) and Stant radiator cap, its completely stock with original "fuel mesh" lines. Hank -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Leave it in over night...check for leaks and redo if necessary. Then, if desired, you can coat the tank with Rustoleum tank seal-white, HD stuff. I sealed countless tanks this way-no leaks yet-KOW..Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Ray Juncal via Healeys" To: "List Healey" Cc: Sent: Tuesday April 26 2022 1:45:32PM Subject: [Healeys] Gas Tanks So brake and fuel lines are in. Time for the gas tank. I have two pretty nice looking tanks I've had stashed for this occasion. Well they were pretty nice until I started scraping the undercoat off and found the rust termites. I'm looking for a new tank and leaning toward the Moss steel one. Advise,warnings and suggestions please. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Alan On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 12:13 PM Alan Seigrist wrote: > Mark - > > To be honest they are pretty bullet proof, so as long as you put grease in > there when you take the hub off for some reason, that will be good enough. > I would suggest maybe around every 20K miles it's worth taking them apart > and repacking, or whenever you replace the brake pads. I think on my BJ8 I > probably haven't touched them in 40K miles. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:57 AM Mark Fawcett via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I've looked over the owners manual and I haven't got a clear indication >> of how often the front wheel bearings should be repacked on an early 3000. >> It seems to suggest every 6000 miles, but that seems a bit excessive. Am I >> missing something? >> >> Mark Fawcett >> 1959 BT7 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Apr 26 18:25:55 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2022 08:25:55 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Tanks In-Reply-To: <798706172.1637520.1651005537295@mail.yahoo.com> References: <798706172.1637520.1651005537295.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <798706172.1637520.1651005537295@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ray - All I can say is the steel tanks rust. Not much you can do about it. On to my third in my BJ8. Etching and sealing the tank is an option, but alot of work and significant risk to mess it up. The cheap moss tank is a permanent fix, and looks and fits beautifully Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 4:46 AM Ray Juncal via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > So brake and fuel lines are in. Time for the gas tank. I have two pretty > nice looking tanks I've had stashed for this occasion. Well they were > pretty nice until I started scraping the undercoat off and found the rust > termites. I'm looking for a new tank and leaning toward the Moss steel one. > Advise,warnings and suggestions please. > > [image: Inline image] > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have two pretty >> nice looking tanks I've had stashed for this occasion. Well they were >> pretty nice until I started scraping the undercoat off and found the rust >> termites. I'm looking for a new tank and leaning toward the Moss steel one. >> Advise,warnings and suggestions please. >> >> [image: Inline image] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks > On Apr 26, 2022, at 4:47 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > Send Healeys mailing list submissions to > healeys at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > healeys-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Concours BJ8 (gradea1 at charter.net) > 2. Re: Wheel Bearings (i erbs) > 3. Gas Tanks (Ray Juncal) > 4. FW: RE: Concours BJ8 (gradea1 at charter.net) > > From: gradea1 at charter.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 > Date: April 26, 2022 at 2:58:25 PM EDT > To: "'rfbegani at gmail.com'" > Cc: "'Bob Spidell'" , "'healeys at autox.team.net'" > > > Bob-this valve cover was available in the late '60s early '70s from aftermarket supplier. I still have the stock green cover in my storage closet. I use it if I concours the car. (This one is not "approved" by concours committee. You may have the same one as mine as they were quite popular for show and some heat dissipation (a little bit). There is no side vent- the crankcase vent is at the T which vents to rear carb (as original). Regards, Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: rfbegani at gmail.com > To: "Bob Spidell" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday April 26 2022 11:35:27AM > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 > > Henry: > > > First time I have seen my finned valve cover, except you have a sport style cap and you do not have a side vent. So is this valve cover original to my BJ8? > > > Bob Begani > > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Henry G Leach via Healeys > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 12:36 PM > To: 'Bob Spidell' > Cc: 'healeys at autox.team.net' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 > > > Here is a stock engine bay on '66 bought new...other than finned valve cover (with nuts chrome caps-removed for concours) and Stant radiator cap, its completely stock with original "fuel mesh" lines. Hank > > > > > From: i erbs > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel Bearings > Date: April 26, 2022 at 3:12:44 PM EDT > To: Mark Fawcett > Cc: Healey List > > > I have repacked mine three times in 47 years. The last two times was preventative maintenance > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022, 8:57 PM Mark Fawcett via Healeys > wrote: > I've looked over the owners manual and I haven't got a clear indication of how often the front wheel bearings should be repacked on an early 3000. It seems to suggest every 6000 miles, but that seems a bit excessive. Am I missing something? > > Mark Fawcett > 1959 BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > > > > From: Ray Juncal > Subject: [Healeys] Gas Tanks > Date: April 26, 2022 at 4:38:57 PM EDT > To: List Healey > > > So brake and fuel lines are in. Time for the gas tank. I have two pretty nice looking tanks I've had stashed for this occasion. Well they were pretty nice until I started scraping the undercoat off and found the rust termites. I'm looking for a new tank and leaning toward the Moss steel one. Advise,warnings and suggestions please. > > > > > > > From: gradea1 at charter.net > Subject: [Healeys] FW: RE: Concours BJ8 > Date: April 26, 2022 at 4:47:20 PM EDT > To: "'healeys at autox.team.net'" > > > Guys-sorry that I sent that jazzed up photo of an original engine bay. This is how the car is today. I found some old prints of the car with just 100 miles from new. They are not the greatest, as they faded dramatically, but here they are any way...maybe you can copy them to your computer and blow them up to see some more detail. This car and engine is untouched in 1966. White wall tires were "standard" Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: gradea1 at charter.net > To: "rfbegani at gmail.com" > Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys at autox.team.net" > Sent: Tuesday April 26 2022 11:58:26AM > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 > > Bob-this valve cover was available in the late '60s early '70s from aftermarket supplier. I still have the stock green cover in my storage closet. I use it if I concours the car. (This one is not "approved" by concours committee. You may have the same one as mine as they were quite popular for show and some heat dissipation (a little bit). There is no side vent- the crankcase vent is at the T which vents to rear carb (as original). Regards, Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: rfbegani at gmail.com > To: "Bob Spidell" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday April 26 2022 11:35:27AM > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 > > Henry: > > > First time I have seen my finned valve cover, except you have a sport style cap and you do not have a side vent. So is this valve cover original to my BJ8? > > > Bob Begani > > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Henry G Leach via Healeys > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 12:36 PM > To: 'Bob Spidell' > Cc: 'healeys at autox.team.net' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours BJ8 > > > Here is a stock engine bay on '66 bought new...other than finned valve cover (with nuts chrome caps-removed for concours) and Stant radiator cap, its completely stock with original "fuel mesh" lines. Hank > > > > _______________________________________________ > Healeys mailing list > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > archives: http://autox.team.net/archive > Alan Wasserman alanwassermannc at gmail.com 732-887-0742 www.wassermanstudio.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There are things that can be done: Draining the tank periodically; keeping the tank either as full as possible if you run your car year-round or totally empty if off the road during winter; avoiding the use of ethanol fuel (not easily done), and; periodically using an additive that allows the water to mix with the fuel and be burned off. All that said I would opt for aluminum if I had to replace the tank in my 100. Best--Michael Oritt On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 9:28 PM Elton S wrote: > I went with an aluminum tank. If you don't care about originality, no > worries about rust from the outside or inside. > Elton > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 4:44 PM Ray Juncal via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> So brake and fuel lines are in. Time for the gas tank. I have two pretty >> nice looking tanks I've had stashed for this occasion. Well they were >> pretty nice until I started scraping the undercoat off and found the rust >> termites. I'm looking for a new tank and leaning toward the Moss steel one. >> Advise,warnings and suggestions please. >> >> [image: Inline image] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not much you can do about it.? On to my third in my BJ8.? Etching and sealing the tank is an option, but alot?of work and significant risk to mess it up. The cheap moss tank is a permanent fix, and looks and fits beautifully Cheers, Alan On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 4:46 AM Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote: So brake and fuel lines are in. Time for the gas tank. I have two pretty nice looking tanks I've had stashed for this occasion. Well they were pretty nice until I started scraping the undercoat off and found the rust termites. I'm looking for a new tank and leaning toward the Moss steel one. 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I believe it is pourable/sloshable but check 3M's product page. 3M makes great products and they have fine tech support. Best--Michael Oritt On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:20 PM Ray Juncal via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Alan > Moss wants $900 for their cheap steel replacement tank, but that's what > a local gas tank repair place wants to clean, repair, line and pressure > test a gas tank. I don't know which way to go. > Ray > > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022, 05:27:14 PM PDT, Alan Seigrist < > healey.nut at gmail.com> wrote: > > > And for what it's worth, Micheal is also right... depends on how important > originality is for you. > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 8:25 AM Alan Seigrist > wrote: > > Ray - > > All I can say is the steel tanks rust. Not much you can do about it. On > to my third in my BJ8. Etching and sealing the tank is an option, but > alot of work and significant risk to mess it up. > > The cheap moss tank is a permanent fix, and looks and fits beautifully > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 4:46 AM Ray Juncal via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > So brake and fuel lines are in. Time for the gas tank. I have two pretty > nice looking tanks I've had stashed for this occasion. Well they were > pretty nice until I started scraping the undercoat off and found the rust > termites. I'm looking for a new tank and leaning toward the Moss steel one. > Advise,warnings and suggestions please. > > [image: Inline image] > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't know which way to go. > Ray > > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022, 05:27:14 PM PDT, Alan Seigrist < > healey.nut at gmail.com> wrote: > > > And for what it's worth, Micheal is also right... depends on how important > originality is for you. > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 8:25 AM Alan Seigrist > wrote: > > Ray - > > All I can say is the steel tanks rust. Not much you can do about it. On > to my third in my BJ8. Etching and sealing the tank is an option, but > alot of work and significant risk to mess it up. > > The cheap moss tank is a permanent fix, and looks and fits beautifully > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 4:46 AM Ray Juncal via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > So brake and fuel lines are in. Time for the gas tank. I have two pretty > nice looking tanks I've had stashed for this occasion. Well they were > pretty nice until I started scraping the undercoat off and found the rust > termites. I'm looking for a new tank and leaning toward the Moss steel one. > Advise,warnings and suggestions please. > > [image: Inline image] > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't know which way to go. > Ray > > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022, 05:27:14 PM PDT, Alan Seigrist > wrote: > > > And for what it's worth, Micheal is also right... depends on how > important originality is for you. > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 8:25 AM Alan Seigrist > wrote: > > Ray - > > All I can say is the steel tanks rust. Not much you can do about > it.? On to my third in my BJ8.? Etching and sealing the tank is an > option, but alot?of work and significant risk to mess it up. > > The cheap moss tank is a permanent fix, and looks and fits > beautifully > > Cheers, > > Alan > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 4:46 AM Ray Juncal via Healeys > wrote: > > So brake and fuel lines are in. Time for the gas tank. I have > two pretty nice looking tanks I've had stashed for this > occasion. Well they were pretty nice until I started scraping > the undercoat off and found the rust termites. I'm looking for > a new tank and leaning toward the Moss steel one. > Advise,warnings and suggestions please. > > Inline image > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So, I cleaned it up as I would clean a rusted parkerized weapon - lots of penetrating oil and using a soft brass brush back and forth for about an hour, eventually most of the rust was removed and the parkerized finish was maintained as best as possible, not perfect but the finish is restored and looks almost like new (this lid was completely coated in rust brown before I started): [image: Mk9 Brake Master Lid.jpeg] Some history of Parkerizing - it really became common toward the end of WWII because it was excellent for protecting weapons from rust in battlefield environments. Makes sense that the British were trying to repurpose this military process for civilian use after the war, and parkerizing is an almost perfect solution for the brake fluid environment. Cheers, Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rianhey at btinternet.com Wed Apr 27 07:40:04 2022 From: rianhey at btinternet.com (Ian Hey) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:40:04 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Rivet squeezer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006601d85a3c$4d907500$e8b15f00$@btinternet.com> It is possible to buy aircraft rivet squeezers, but I could not make the one I borrowed fit the rivets at the bottom of the boot lid. I used pop rivets, and filled the heads with epoxy paint until the pop hole was full. The hand squeezer worked on the rivets fastening the bottom of the shroud to the boot floor. Ian From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: 27 April 2022 14:34 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Rivet squeezer Has anyone come up with a rivet squeezing attachment which will work on the 13 x 1/8" flat head rivets across the rear shroud rail at the bottom of the boot lid? I have done these with a hammer, buck and punch in the past but would much prefer a squeezer for the job. M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britishauto at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 08:03:41 2022 From: britishauto at gmail.com (Jake V) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:03:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Tanks In-Reply-To: References: <41704967-d222-8b83-ad9d-b52cd5afa0d9@comcast.net> Message-ID: If it hasn't been mentioned before, Moyer in easter PA (if you're in the states) has a great way to extend the life of a tank. I think it was ~$300. My TR7 tank had this done, it'll outlast the rest of the car, I'd wager. http://www.gas-tank.com/ On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:03 AM Jake V wrote: > If it hasn't been mentioned before, Moyer in easter PA (if you're in the > states) has a great way to extend the life of a tank. > I think it was ~$300. My TR7 tank had this done, it'll outlast the rest of > the car, I'd wager. > > http://www.gas-tank.com/ > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:58 PM Charlie Baldwin > wrote: > >> >> A shop near me would probably cost less than $300 to repair, clean, and >> coat a used tank. That would leave a lot of room to ship the tank to >> them. https://www.westyorkradiatorservice.com/ >> >> Charlie >> On 4/26/2022 10:14 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote: >> >> Alan >> Moss wants $900 for their cheap steel replacement tank, but that's >> what a local gas tank repair place wants to clean, repair, line and >> pressure test a gas tank. I don't know which way to go. >> Ray >> >> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022, 05:27:14 PM PDT, Alan Seigrist >> wrote: >> >> >> And for what it's worth, Micheal is also right... depends on how >> important originality is for you. >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 8:25 AM Alan Seigrist >> wrote: >> >> Ray - >> >> All I can say is the steel tanks rust. Not much you can do about it. On >> to my third in my BJ8. Etching and sealing the tank is an option, but >> alot of work and significant risk to mess it up. >> >> The cheap moss tank is a permanent fix, and looks and fits beautifully >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alan >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 4:46 AM Ray Juncal via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> So brake and fuel lines are in. Time for the gas tank. I have two pretty >> nice looking tanks I've had stashed for this occasion. Well they were >> pretty nice until I started scraping the undercoat off and found the rust >> termites. I'm looking for a new tank and leaning toward the Moss steel one. >> Advise,warnings and suggestions please. >> >> [image: Inline image] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishauto at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 9:34 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Rivet squeezer Has anyone come up with a rivet squeezing attachment which will work on the 13 x 1/8" flat head rivets across the rear shroud rail at the bottom of the boot lid? I have done these with a hammer, buck and punch in the past but would much prefer a squeezer for the job. M -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgcharlie at comcast.net Wed Apr 27 11:15:59 2022 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2022 13:15:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Tanks In-Reply-To: References: <41704967-d222-8b83-ad9d-b52cd5afa0d9@comcast.net> Message-ID: If it matters to anyone, Greensburg where Jake's place is is in western PA, 30 or so miles east of Pittsburgh.? The place that I mentioned is in the eastern part of the middle of the state, York County.? The last tank I had done was the one for my MG TD, and that cost lest than $200, and was 3 years ago.? A friend of mine has had many vintage Volvo tanks done, but hasn't taken any for a while because the owner, Harry, raised his prices, and he can get new reproduction tanks for less than getting them repaired. Harry cooks them out in a hot caustic or acidic solution going down to bare metal, and then the coating he uses is a red color that stands up to all gasoline, even with ethanol in it. Either way, there is a big difference between what either of these charge and $900 for a new tank that may or may not be exactly like the original. > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:03 AM Jake V wrote: > > If it hasn't been mentioned before, Moyer in easter PA (if you're > in the states) has a great way to extend the life of a tank. > I think it was ~$300. My TR7 tank had this done, it'll outlast the > rest of the car, I'd wager. > > http://www.gas-tank.com/ > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:58 PM Charlie Baldwin > wrote: > > > A shop near me would probably cost less than $300 to repair, > clean, and coat a used tank.? That would leave a lot of room > to ship the tank to them. > https://www.westyorkradiatorservice.com/ > > Charlie > > On 4/26/2022 10:14 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote: >> Alan >> ?? Moss wants $900 for their cheap steel replacement tank, >> but that's what a local gas tank repair place wants to clean, >> repair, line and pressure test a gas tank. I don't know which >> way to go. >> Ray >> >> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022, 05:27:14 PM PDT, Alan Seigrist >> wrote: >> >> >> And for what it's worth, Micheal is also right... depends on >> how important originality is for you. >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 8:25 AM Alan Seigrist >> wrote: >> >> Ray - >> >> All I can say is the steel tanks rust.? Not much you can >> do about it.? On to my third in my BJ8.? Etching and >> sealing the tank is an option, but alot?of work and >> significant risk to mess it up. >> >> The cheap moss tank is a permanent fix, and looks and >> fits beautifully >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alan >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 4:46 AM Ray Juncal via Healeys >> wrote: >> >> So brake and fuel lines are in. Time for the gas >> tank. I have two pretty nice looking tanks I've had >> stashed for this occasion. Well they were pretty nice >> until I started scraping the undercoat off and found >> the rust termites. I'm looking for a new tank and >> leaning toward the Moss steel one. Advise,warnings >> and suggestions please. >> >> Inline image >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishauto at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Advise,warnings and suggestions please. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_5030.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2695590 bytes Desc: not available URL: From manifold at telus.net Thu Apr 28 11:34:45 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:34:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Cylinder Head Chamber Volume Message-ID: <7BF8EAE2-B82D-40DF-9818-EB3BFEE2D5B0@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at 18:35, Harold Manifold via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hello, > > > > I am in the final stages of an AH 3000 engine rebuild with some upgrades > and would like to do a compression ratio check. I have all of the numbers > needed except for the cylinder head chamber volume. A quick search online > came up with 52cc?s. The valves were the same for all the Healey 3000 > engines so the head volume should be the same. Would anyone be able to > confirm if 52cc?s is a good number? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Harold > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Thu Apr 28 14:58:16 2022 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:58:16 +1200 Subject: [Healeys] Cylinder Head Chamber Volume In-Reply-To: <7BF8EAE2-B82D-40DF-9818-EB3BFEE2D5B0@hxcore.ol> References: <7BF8EAE2-B82D-40DF-9818-EB3BFEE2D5B0@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: <000001d85b42$af52adb0$0df80910$@xtra.co.nz> Correct, Harold. I think mine were actually 52.5 cc Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Harold Manifold Sent: Friday, 29 April 2022 5:35 AM To: Ken Fleming via Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Cylinder Head Chamber Volume Hello, I am in the final stages of an AH 3000 engine rebuild with some upgrades and would like to do a compression ratio check. I have all of the numbers needed except for the cylinder head chamber volume. A quick search online came up with 52cc?s. The valves were the same for all the Healey 3000 engines so the head volume should be the same. Would anyone be able to confirm if 52cc?s is a good number? Thanks, Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu Apr 28 15:20:02 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:20:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Rivet squeezer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Had a couple of recommendations but no solution. After some serious consideration I sacrificed a steering joint separator. Problem solved. On Wed., Apr. 27, 2022, 9:33 a.m. Michael Salter, wrote: > Has anyone come up with a rivet squeezing attachment which will work on > the 13 x 1/8" flat head rivets across the rear shroud rail at the bottom of > the boot lid? > I have done these with a hammer, buck and punch in the past but would much > prefer a squeezer for the job. > > M > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20220428_155229.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 716331 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, April 28, 2022, 02:24:21 PM PDT, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: Had a couple of recommendations but no solution.After some serious consideration I? sacrificed a steering joint separator.Problem solved. On Wed., Apr. 27, 2022, 9:33 a.m. Michael Salter, wrote: Has anyone come up with a rivet squeezing attachment which will work on the 13 x 1/8" flat head rivets across the rear shroud rail at the bottom of the boot lid??I have done these with a hammer, buck and punch in the past but would much prefer a squeezer for the job. M _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Photos? > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022, 02:24:21 PM PDT, Michael Salter via > Healeys wrote: > > > Had a couple of recommendations but no solution. > After some serious consideration I? sacrificed a steering joint separator. > Problem solved. > > On Wed., Apr. 27, 2022, 9:33 a.m. Michael Salter, > wrote: > > Has anyone come up with a rivet squeezing attachment which will > work on the 13 x 1/8" flat head rivets across the rear shroud rail > at the bottom of the boot lid? > I have done these with a hammer, buck and punch in the past but > would much prefer a squeezer for the job. > > M > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu Apr 28 18:47:27 2022 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:47:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Rivet squeezer In-Reply-To: <809386344.2554167.1651191236211@mail.yahoo.com> References: <809386344.2554167.1651191236211@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes that's my rotisserie. It is absolutely fabulous. The best thing it that it is quite small so easy to store when not required. On Thu., Apr. 28, 2022, 8:13 p.m. Ray Juncal, wrote: > Is that your rotisserie in the background? How did it come out? Photos? > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022, 02:24:21 PM PDT, Michael Salter via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Had a couple of recommendations but no solution. > After some serious consideration I sacrificed a steering joint separator. > Problem solved. > > On Wed., Apr. 27, 2022, 9:33 a.m. Michael Salter, > wrote: > > Has anyone come up with a rivet squeezing attachment which will work on > the 13 x 1/8" flat head rivets across the rear shroud rail at the bottom of > the boot lid? > I have done these with a hammer, buck and punch in the past but would much > prefer a squeezer for the job. > > M > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Photos? >> >> On Thursday, April 28, 2022, 02:24:21 PM PDT, Michael Salter via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Had a couple of recommendations but no solution. >> After some serious consideration I sacrificed a steering joint separator. >> Problem solved. >> >> On Wed., Apr. 27, 2022, 9:33 a.m. Michael Salter, < >> michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Has anyone come up with a rivet squeezing attachment which will work on >> the 13 x 1/8" flat head rivets across the rear shroud rail at the bottom of >> the boot lid? >> I have done these with a hammer, buck and punch in the past but would >> much prefer a squeezer for the job. >> >> M >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ring set was marked 100/100M, so I'm assuming they send the same set for both and you just leave off the #5 (one piece oil control ring) on the 100 pistons. This is what I decided to do. Now Moss's 4 ring set on the website shows the three upper rings and the #4 ring being the 3 piece oil control ring reinforcing the thought that the #5 (one piece ring) should be disregarded. Called Moss Tech support and after a week they got back to me and said that he didn't know the answer, and they would get back to me. That was another week ago and still no answer. Also nothing is indicated in the piston directions. Thought I would check to see if anyone on the list ran across this? TY, Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ring set was marked > 100/100M, so I'm assuming they send the same set for both and you just > leave off the #5 (one piece oil control ring) on the 100 pistons. This is > what I decided to do. Now Moss's 4 ring set on the website shows the three > upper rings and the #4 ring being the 3 piece oil control ring reinforcing > the thought that the #5 (one piece ring) should be disregarded. > > Called Moss Tech support and after a week they got back to me and said > that he didn't know the answer, and they would get back to me. That was > another week ago and still no answer. Also nothing is indicated in the > piston directions. 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URL: From airtightproductions at me.com Fri Apr 29 10:00:27 2022 From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:00:27 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100 piston rings- Moss In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <966d827a-bc95-45aa-a6c9-c96f44afd084@me.com> I rebuilt my engine in October, 2020 and I got my pistons from Austin Healey Spares in the UK. They were 0.060 over M spec pistons and as you can see from the photo, they did indeed need the fifth ring. Hope this helps with your situation and thoughts. The pistons I replaced weren't even AH pistons. My machine shop couldn't figure out where they originated, but the replacement rings we found for them that would fit were for a 1950's Plymouth or Mercury. They were also flat topped and were going to create too much compression, so that's why I went with the M spec pistons.Steven KingsburyBN1?On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:23 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys wrote:Hoping to validate my decision before buttoning things up on my 100 engine. Ordered .020 over standard (not 100M) piston set from Moss. Piston is a 4 ring piston, but came with 5 rings. They were identified where each ring should be fitted #1-5, with #4 (3 piece oil control ring), and #5 (one piece oil control ring). Obviously not a groove for #5. Ring set was marked 100/100M, so I'm assuming they send the same set for both and you just leave off the #5 (one piece oil control ring) on the 100 pistons. This is what I decided to do. Now Moss's 4 ring set on the website shows the three upper rings and the #4 ring being the 3 piece oil control ring reinforcing the thought that the #5 (one piece ring) should be disregarded.??Called Moss Tech support and after a week they got back to me and said that he didn't know the answer, and they would get back to me. That was another week ago and still no answer.? Also nothing is indicated in the piston directions.? Thought I would check to see if anyone on the list ran across this?TY, ShawnThe Millers ? 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One similar to this that uses different heads will work, you may find used ones for less: https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/ats-rivet-squeezers.php I have used one like this for squeezing solid rivets when building my plane, it has an adjustable depth to account for different thickness materials. The heads accommodate flat or cupped rivets. Gil 61 BT7 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 9:34 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Rivet squeezer Has anyone come up with a rivet squeezing attachment which will work on the 13 x 1/8" flat head rivets across the rear shroud rail at the bottom of the boot lid? I have done these with a hammer, buck and punch in the past but would much prefer a squeezer for the job. M _____ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Michael Salter via Healeys" To: "S and T Miller" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Friday April 29 2022 7:07:22AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 piston rings- Moss I have gone through all my TSBs but couldn't find the 1 that I was looking for. As I recall there was one, I seem to remember that I was applicable to the 100/6 engine, that said to delete the bottom ring during rebuilds. M On Fri., Apr. 29, 2022, 9:22 a.m. S and T Miller via Healeys, wrote: Hoping to validate my decision before buttoning things up on my 100 engine. Ordered .020 over standard (not 100M) piston set from Moss. Piston is a 4 ring piston, but came with 5 rings. They were identified where each ring should be fitted #1-5, with #4 (3 piece oil control ring), and #5 (one piece oil control ring). Obviously not a groove for #5. Ring set was marked 100/100M, so I'm assuming they send the same set for both and you just leave off the #5 (one piece oil control ring) on the 100 pistons. This is what I decided to do. Now Moss's 4 ring set on the website shows the three upper rings and the #4 ring being the 3 piece oil control ring reinforcing the thought that the #5 (one piece ring) should be disregarded. Called Moss Tech support and after a week they got back to me and said that he didn't know the answer, and they would get back to me. That was another week ago and still no answer. Also nothing is indicated in the piston directions. Thought I would check to see if anyone on the list ran across this? TY, Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net [1]http://www.team.net/donate.html [2] Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: [3]http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [4] [5]http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys [6] Healeys at autox.team.net [7]http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [8] Unsubscribe/Manage: [9]http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com [10] Links: ------ [1] http://www.team.net/donate.html [2] http://www.team.net/donate.html [3] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [4] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [5] http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys [6] http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys [7] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [8] http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com [10] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mike MacLean On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 9:58 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > New pistons should come with a very detailed instructions. See attached > example from Wossner. The engine builder and machine shop needs this > information to properly fit pistons and rings especially if the pistons are > different that OEM. > > > > Harold > > > > *From: *Steven Kingsbury via Healeys > *Sent: *Friday, April 29, 2022 9:03 AM > *To: *S and T Miller > *Cc: *healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] 100 piston rings- Moss > > > > I rebuilt my engine in October, 2020 and I got my pistons from Austin > Healey Spares in the UK. They were 0.060 over M spec pistons and as you can > see from the photo, they did indeed need the fifth ring. Hope this helps > with your situation and thoughts. > > > > The pistons I replaced weren't even AH pistons. My machine shop couldn't > figure out where they originated, but the replacement rings we found for > them that would fit were for a 1950's Plymouth or Mercury. They were also > flat topped and were going to create too much compression, so that's why I > went with the M spec pistons. > > Steven Kingsbury > > BN1 > > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:23 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > > > Hoping to validate my decision before buttoning things up on my 100 > engine. Ordered .020 over standard (not 100M) piston set from Moss. Piston > is a 4 ring piston, but came with 5 rings. They were identified where each > ring should be fitted #1-5, with #4 (3 piece oil control ring), and #5 (one > piece oil control ring). Obviously not a groove for #5. Ring set was marked > 100/100M, so I'm assuming they send the same set for both and you just > leave off the #5 (one piece oil control ring) on the 100 pistons. This is > what I decided to do. Now Moss's 4 ring set on the website shows the three > upper rings and the #4 ring being the 3 piece oil control ring reinforcing > the thought that the #5 (one piece ring) should be disregarded. > > > > Called Moss Tech support and after a week they got back to me and said > that he didn't know the answer, and they would get back to me. That was > another week ago and still no answer. Also nothing is indicated in the > piston directions. Thought I would check to see if anyone on the list ran > across this? > > TY, Shawn > > > > The Millers > > > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/springer.mike51 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Michael MacLean via Healeys" To: "Harold Manifold", "Ahealey help" Cc: Sent: Friday April 29 2022 10:20:06AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 piston rings- Moss I don't know what to tell you guys, but I bought the piston set from Moss several years ago for the short block of my BN2. The pistons came with three plain rings and grooves only. Obviously they don't sell this set anymore. My engine builder said it would be OK when I asked about the lack of an oil control ring. He just said I would have less friction this way. Kind of wondering now that I see all your examples. Mike MacLean On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 9:58 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: New pistons should come with a very detailed instructions. See attached example from Wossner. The engine builder and machine shop needs this information to properly fit pistons and rings especially if the pistons are different that OEM. Harold FROM: Steven Kingsbury via Healeys SENT: Friday, April 29, 2022 9:03 AM TO: S and T Miller CC: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 100 piston rings- Moss I rebuilt my engine in October, 2020 and I got my pistons from Austin Healey Spares in the UK. They were 0.060 over M spec pistons and as you can see from the photo, they did indeed need the fifth ring. Hope this helps with your situation and thoughts. The pistons I replaced weren't even AH pistons. My machine shop couldn't figure out where they originated, but the replacement rings we found for them that would fit were for a 1950's Plymouth or Mercury. They were also flat topped and were going to create too much compression, so that's why I went with the M spec pistons. Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:23 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys wrote: Hoping to validate my decision before buttoning things up on my 100 engine. Ordered .020 over standard (not 100M) piston set from Moss. Piston is a 4 ring piston, but came with 5 rings. They were identified where each ring should be fitted #1-5, with #4 (3 piece oil control ring), and #5 (one piece oil control ring). Obviously not a groove for #5. Ring set was marked 100/100M, so I'm assuming they send the same set for both and you just leave off the #5 (one piece oil control ring) on the 100 pistons. This is what I decided to do. Now Moss's 4 ring set on the website shows the three upper rings and the #4 ring being the 3 piece oil control ring reinforcing the thought that the #5 (one piece ring) should be disregarded. Called Moss Tech support and after a week they got back to me and said that he didn't know the answer, and they would get back to me. That was another week ago and still no answer. Also nothing is indicated in the piston directions. Thought I would check to see if anyone on the list ran across this? 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URL: From watterbury at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 12:17:01 2022 From: watterbury at yahoo.com (William Atterbury) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:17:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100 piston rings- Moss References: Message-ID: My pistons came with 5 ring grooves, but on the advice of local expert Eric Jones, I left off the #5 ring (second oil control ring). It?s been over 10 years, and no blowby or oil consumption issues. Bill Atterbury 1962 BT-7 From garyandersonmm at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 13:26:25 2022 From: garyandersonmm at gmail.com (Gary Anderson) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:26:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Size of sealing washer for oil sump Message-ID: Some time ago I asked for a currently available washer that would effectively seal the oil drain opening on the six-cylinder Healey, which originally used a one-use crunch washer for an effective seal. Someone recommended a Raceflux Dowty Bonded Sealing Washer, available at anhosefittings.com. These washers look terrific and are available in all sizes. My question for the list is: What size washer should I order? Thanks Gary Anderson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 13:47:40 2022 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 15:47:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Size of sealing washer for oil sump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gary-- If the "crunch washer" you refer to is brass you can simply anneal it to red hot with a map torch making it reusable. Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 3:27 PM Gary Anderson via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Some time ago I asked for a currently available washer that would > effectively seal the oil drain opening on the six-cylinder Healey, which > originally used a one-use crunch washer for an effective seal. Someone > recommended a Raceflux Dowty Bonded Sealing Washer, available at > anhosefittings.com. > These washers look terrific and are available in all sizes. My question > for the list is: > What size washer should I order? > Thanks > Gary Anderson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Fri Apr 29 13:48:16 2022 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:48:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Size of sealing washer for oil sump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32257031-0AF1-4BBA-A1E2-362EEBB35072@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 19:16:27 2022 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2022 09:16:27 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 piston rings- Moss In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I put 40 over / 5 ring pistons on my BJ8 - 100K miles later the car burns no oil & hone is as good as the day it was machined.... so I do prefer that it doesn't eat any oil. I am not averse to putting all 5 on if you can. Best, Alan On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 1:11 AM Henry G Leach via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > The way I understand it, is today its all about friction. Many of the > modern day pistons are three ring only. In the old days we needed all the > squeeze we could get to keep oil out of the combustion. With todays > machining capabilities, tolerances are so close that its not as much an > issue as in the past. If you want less drag on your engine you can leave > out the oil control set, but you may get some blow by on these old iron > clunkers. > > I tend to follow the proper parts assembly, so that if there are five > slots I fill them with 5 rings. My NOS replacement .020 Mahle pistons had 4 > and a matched set of Grant rings fit perfect. No blowby and good > compression. Hank > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Fri Apr 29 19:59:42 2022 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 21:59:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100 piston rings- Moss In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2022, at 9:17 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > > ? > I put 40 over / 5 ring pistons on my BJ8 - 100K miles later the car burns no oil & hone is as good as the day it was machined.... so I do prefer that it doesn't eat any oil. I am not averse to putting all 5 on if you can. > > Best, > > Alan > >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 1:11 AM Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: >> The way I understand it, is today its all about friction. Many of the modern day pistons are three ring only. In the old days we needed all the squeeze we could get to keep oil out of the combustion. With todays machining capabilities, tolerances are so close that its not as much an issue as in the past. If you want less drag on your engine you can leave out the oil control set, but you may get some blow by on these old iron clunkers. >> >> I tend to follow the proper parts assembly, so that if there are five slots I fill them with 5 rings. My NOS replacement .020 Mahle pistons had 4 and a matched set of Grant rings fit perfect. No blowby and good compression. Hank >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lgalper1 at cox.net Sat Apr 30 13:46:54 2022 From: lgalper1 at cox.net (Lou G) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2022 12:46:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil sump washer Message-ID: <743689D7-B057-4EC2-89D0-AA6D61BA9D9B@cox.net> Dorman sells these washers. You?ll have to check on whether it is the M10, M12, or M14 version. And they work great. You may be able to get a 2-pack from O?reilly. Dorman 097-134 Copper Oil Drain Plug Gasket - Fits M12, Pack of 10 (Amazon) Lou Bn1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lgalper1 at cox.net Sat Apr 30 13:51:53 2022 From: lgalper1 at cox.net (Lou G) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2022 12:51:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil sump washer In-Reply-To: <743689D7-B057-4EC2-89D0-AA6D61BA9D9B@cox.net> References: <743689D7-B057-4EC2-89D0-AA6D61BA9D9B@cox.net> Message-ID: <4DBE6590-420E-4E65-A8F0-12038CF6E172@cox.net> Sorry Check Dorman #097-025. For the M14 version. > On Apr 30, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Lou G wrote: > > ? > Dorman sells these washers. You?ll have to check on whether it is the M10, M12, or M14 version. > And they work great. > You may be able to get a 2-pack from O?reilly. > > Dorman 097-134 Copper Oil Drain Plug Gasket - Fits M12, Pack of 10 > (Amazon) > > Lou > Bn1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk Sat Apr 30 20:31:22 2022 From: emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk (David Lodge) Date: Sun, 1 May 2022 02:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Well, this is interesting!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <819945246.228876.1651372282502@mail.yahoo.com> I'll stick with my BJ8, thank you very much! On Wed Apr 13 2022 12:44:38 GMT-0700 (PDT), Kent McLean wrote: Randyl Hicks wrote: https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-british-classic Um, the 100 really should have the folding windscreen.? "All told these mods add up to 185bhp and 195lb/ft of torque, a far cry from the BN1?s 90bhp." Snake Rive Classics is doing something similar with the MGB, for only $100K (also WTF?). ?They spec the?GM LTG 2.0L engine, 260HP/270 lb.ft. as used in the Camaro. In my Healey by Caton, I'd take that over the original block and 185bhp. YMMV. https://snakeriverclassics.com/_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: