From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 1 12:42:42 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 11:42:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Front Disks Message-ID: <8f4637f7-d282-5d20-3627-b8460c4fd3d4@comcast.net> Anyone put front disk brakes on a 100? I'm looking at the DWM kit, but I imagine there are alternatives (not least for cheaper shipping, and no customs hassles). I've seen/read about disks on early 6-cyl cars, in particular greater braking effort (no big deal; my legs need every workout they can get). Also, do the kits fit under stock 48-spokers? What got me thinking is my BN2's brakes are OK, for all drums, but when I stomp on them the car pivots hard right. I caught the first new episode of Wheeler Dealers where the new host--Marc somebody--had the same problem with an early Mini, solved with disks. TIA, Bob From frogeye at porterscustom.com Mon Nov 1 12:53:03 2021 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 12:53:03 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Front Disks In-Reply-To: <8f4637f7-d282-5d20-3627-b8460c4fd3d4@comcast.net> References: <8f4637f7-d282-5d20-3627-b8460c4fd3d4@comcast.net> Message-ID: I had them on my 100 (RIP)... Frankly, I wasn't all that impressed. I'd look into using the Healey brackets and see if Wilwood has calipers to fit..? if I was doing it again.. On 11/1/2021 12:42 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys wrote: > Anyone put front disk brakes on a 100? I'm looking at the DWM kit, but > I imagine there are alternatives (not least for cheaper shipping, and > no customs hassles). I've seen/read about disks on early 6-cyl cars, > in particular greater braking effort (no big deal; my legs need every > workout they can get). Also, do the kits fit under stock 48-spokers? > > What got me thinking is my BN2's brakes are OK, for all drums, but > when I stomp on them the car pivots hard right. I caught the first new > episode of Wheeler Dealers where the new host--Marc somebody--had the > same problem with an early Mini, solved with disks. > > TIA, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com > -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ From josef-eckert at t-online.de Mon Nov 1 12:55:00 2021 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 19:55:00 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Healeys] 100 Front Disks In-Reply-To: <8f4637f7-d282-5d20-3627-b8460c4fd3d4@comcast.net> References: <8f4637f7-d282-5d20-3627-b8460c4fd3d4@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1635792900436.6823420.f97f65c84b1ea4e4b2305576196839f0c31dcb93@spica.telekom.de> I would miss the drum brake feeling. Love it, as its different to my daily driver. Josef Eckert ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Bob Spidell via Healeys Betreff: [Healeys] 100 Front Disks Datum: 01. November 2021, 19:42 An: Healeys Anyone put front disk brakes on a 100? I'm looking at the DWM kit, but I imagine there are alternatives (not least for cheaper shipping, and no customs hassles). I've seen/read about disks on early 6-cyl cars, in particular greater braking effort (no big deal; my legs need every workout they can get). Also, do the kits fit under stock 48-spokers? What got me thinking is my BN2's brakes are OK, for all drums, but when I stomp on them the car pivots hard right. I caught the first new episode of Wheeler Dealers where the new host--Marc somebody--had the same problem with an early Mini, solved with disks. TIA, Bob _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: Healeys at autox.team.net Unsubscribe/Manage: http: //autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/josef-eckert at t-online.de -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Nov 1 17:00:28 2021 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 19:00:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Front Discs References: Message-ID: Bob Our 100 modified has early AH discs with 3/8 inch thick discs and 14 type calipers using the six cylinder uprights and bits. It also has a Wilwood kit on the rear. Issue has always been getting a proper master to deal with the four wheel disc brake setup. Using one from a fork lift currently. Perry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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( balance bar or different piston diameters ) Or have you found a good balance with one master and compatible calipers? Inquiring minds want to know. On Monday, November 1, 2021, 04:01:22 PM PDT, Perry Small via Healeys wrote: Bob Our 100 modified has early AH discs with 3/8 inch thick discs and 14 type calipers using the six cylinder uprights and bits. It also has a Wilwood kit on the rear. Issue has always been getting a proper master to deal with the four wheel disc brake setup. Using one from a fork lift currently. Perry Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 1 20:59:20 2021 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 22:59:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap Message-ID: <019f01d7cf95$a21c7650$e65562f0$@sympatico.ca> Hi all, I foolishly drove off from the gas station and left my original filler cap on the rear seat back. It fell of on the road and was run over. Much misery ensued. I could buy a new replacement but they are not quite the same as the originals, so does anyone out there have a used original filler cap they will part with? I have a BT7, but I believe the same cap was fitted to all the 6 cyl cars, and perhaps the 100s as well, but I am not sure of that. If you have something, please contact me off-list. With thanks, Mirek -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Mon Nov 1 21:23:55 2021 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 03:23:55 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: <019f01d7cf95$a21c7650$e65562f0$@sympatico.ca> References: <019f01d7cf95$a21c7650$e65562f0$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Not the same but I use one that locks with the key on the same ring as the ignition key. Can?t drive without replacing the cap. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 1, 2021, at 7:59 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: ? Hi all, I foolishly drove off from the gas station and left my original filler cap on the rear seat back. It fell of on the road and was run over. Much misery ensued. I could buy a new replacement but they are not quite the same as the originals, so does anyone out there have a used original filler cap they will part with? I have a BT7, but I believe the same cap was fitted to all the 6 cyl cars, and perhaps the 100s as well, but I am not sure of that. If you have something, please contact me off-list. With thanks, Mirek _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From drtommitch at gmail.com Mon Nov 1 21:31:32 2021 From: drtommitch at gmail.com (Tom Mitchell) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 23:31:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: References: <019f01d7cf95$a21c7650$e65562f0$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: I also have a locking cap, with a difference. I rekeyed it to match my ignition, so I also can't drive without replacing my gas cap. Tom On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 11:24 PM Richard Kahn via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Not the same but I use one that locks with the key on the same ring as the > ignition key. Can?t drive without replacing the cap. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 1, 2021, at 7:59 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > > Hi all, I foolishly drove off from the gas station and left my original > filler cap on the rear seat back. It fell of on the road and was run > over. Much misery ensued. > > > > I could buy a new replacement but they are not quite the same as the > originals, so does anyone out there have a used original filler cap they > will part with? I have a BT7, but I believe the same cap was fitted to all > the 6 cyl cars, and perhaps the 100s as well, but I am not sure of that. > > > > If you have something, please contact me off-list. > > > > With thanks, Mirek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drtommitch at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guido36 at att.net Tue Nov 2 00:43:53 2021 From: guido36 at att.net (Guy Coldwell) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 23:43:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Items for Sale References: <992F88C9-6D46-464C-AFD0-24EC7F9B8500.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <992F88C9-6D46-464C-AFD0-24EC7F9B8500@att.net> Hi Kenneth Can you confirm whether you still have the following available and your asking price for each? Perspex side screens for early BN1 Replacement perspex for Early BN1 sodescreens Reqr perspex window for Nical hardtop Thanks Guy From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Nov 2 02:16:16 2021 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 04:16:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: <019f01d7cf95$a21c7650$e65562f0$@sympatico.ca> References: <019f01d7cf95$a21c7650$e65562f0$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <010d01d7cfc1$e8d4b1d0$ba7e1570$@rr.com> During my drive to Open Roads in Lake Tahoe in 2002, I filled my tank and drove away, not discovering until I stopped later that the noise I heard like something falling off the car was the petrol cap. I had laid it on the top cover, as was my habit during fueling. After a futile search for it over the last 20 miles, I came across a NAPA store in the country. Well, there is no chance they will have a Healey gas cap, but I went in to check anyway. The clerk simply asked "locking or non-locking?" and produced one exactly like the one I lost. I don't know if it was BMC factory original, but if not it was close enough, and certainly better than duct tape. The moral of the story: since then I have made it a firm practice to put the cap in a pocket during fueling, and I have not lost another one. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of m.g.sharp--- via Healeys Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 10:59 PM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap Hi all, I foolishly drove off from the gas station and left my original filler cap on the rear seat back. It fell of on the road and was run over. Much misery ensued. I could buy a new replacement but they are not quite the same as the originals, so does anyone out there have a used original filler cap they will part with? I have a BT7, but I believe the same cap was fitted to all the 6 cyl cars, and perhaps the 100s as well, but I am not sure of that. If you have something, please contact me off-list. With thanks, Mirek -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Tue Nov 2 02:33:40 2021 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 19:33:40 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: <010d01d7cfc1$e8d4b1d0$ba7e1570$@rr.com> References: <019f01d7cf95$a21c7650$e65562f0$@sympatico.ca> <010d01d7cfc1$e8d4b1d0$ba7e1570$@rr.com> Message-ID: <012a01d7cfc4$58593560$090ba020$@tpg.com.au> Hello The 100 petrol caps are in the boot and have a little chain connecting it to the filler tube. The same with the Healey 2.4 Litre. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8Healeys via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, 2 November 2021 7:16 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap During my drive to Open Roads in Lake Tahoe in 2002, I filled my tank and drove away, not discovering until I stopped later that the noise I heard like something falling off the car was the petrol cap. I had laid it on the top cover, as was my habit during fueling. After a futile search for it over the last 20 miles, I came across a NAPA store in the country. Well, there is no chance they will have a Healey gas cap, but I went in to check anyway. The clerk simply asked "locking or non-locking?" and produced one exactly like the one I lost. I don't know if it was BMC factory original, but if not it was close enough, and certainly better than duct tape. The moral of the story: since then I have made it a firm practice to put the cap in a pocket during fueling, and I have not lost another one. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of m.g.sharp--- via Healeys Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 10:59 PM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap Hi all, I foolishly drove off from the gas station and left my original filler cap on the rear seat back. It fell of on the road and was run over. Much misery ensued. I could buy a new replacement but they are not quite the same as the originals, so does anyone out there have a used original filler cap they will part with? I have a BT7, but I believe the same cap was fitted to all the 6 cyl cars, and perhaps the 100s as well, but I am not sure of that. If you have something, please contact me off-list. With thanks, Mirek -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Tue Nov 2 02:44:59 2021 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 08:44:59 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: <010d01d7cfc1$e8d4b1d0$ba7e1570$@rr.com> References: <019f01d7cf95$a21c7650$e65562f0$@sympatico.ca> <010d01d7cfc1$e8d4b1d0$ba7e1570$@rr.com> Message-ID: <001901d7cfc5$ecc2df20$c6489d60$@alexarevel.plus.com> I also left mine on the back somewhere, heard it fall but was too late to save it. I bought a repro which looked identical to me but I switched to a locking cap with key on same ring as ignition key. The locking part is inside an Aston(?) filler cap. A period fitting or so I'm told. Looks pretty OK. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of BJ8Healeys via Healeys Sent: 02 November 2021 08:16 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap During my drive to Open Roads in Lake Tahoe in 2002, I filled my tank and drove away, not discovering until I stopped later that the noise I heard like something falling off the car was the petrol cap. I had laid it on the top cover, as was my habit during fueling. After a futile search for it over the last 20 miles, I came across a NAPA store in the country. Well, there is no chance they will have a Healey gas cap, but I went in to check anyway. The clerk simply asked "locking or non-locking?" and produced one exactly like the one I lost. I don't know if it was BMC factory original, but if not it was close enough, and certainly better than duct tape. The moral of the story: since then I have made it a firm practice to put the cap in a pocket during fueling, and I have not lost another one. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of m.g.sharp--- via Healeys Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 10:59 PM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap Hi all, I foolishly drove off from the gas station and left my original filler cap on the rear seat back. It fell of on the road and was run over. Much misery ensued. I could buy a new replacement but they are not quite the same as the originals, so does anyone out there have a used original filler cap they will part with? I have a BT7, but I believe the same cap was fitted to all the 6 cyl cars, and perhaps the 100s as well, but I am not sure of that. If you have something, please contact me off-list. With thanks, Mirek -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Tue Nov 2 09:32:21 2021 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 08:32:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: <001901d7cfc5$ecc2df20$c6489d60$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <019f01d7cf95$a21c7650$e65562f0$@sympatico.ca> <010d01d7cfc1$e8d4b1d0$ba7e1570$@rr.com> <001901d7cfc5$ecc2df20$c6489d60$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: An old copy will have poor sealing. I too have a locking cap. I leave my keyring attached to the cap. Can't drive off without reattaching the cap Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 1:45 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I also left mine on the back somewhere, heard it fall but was too late to > save it. I bought a repro which looked identical to me but I switched to a > locking cap with key on same ring as ignition key. The locking part is > inside an Aston(?) filler cap. A period fitting or so I?m told. Looks > pretty OK. > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *BJ8Healeys > via Healeys > *Sent:* 02 November 2021 08:16 > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap > > > > During my drive to Open Roads in Lake Tahoe in 2002, I filled my tank and > drove away, not discovering until I stopped later that the noise I heard > like something falling off the car was the petrol cap. I had laid it on > the top cover, as was my habit during fueling. After a futile search for > it over the last 20 miles, I came across a NAPA store in the country. > Well, there is no chance they will have a Healey gas cap, but I went in to > check anyway. The clerk simply asked ?locking or non-locking?? and > produced one exactly like the one I lost. I don?t know if it was BMC > factory original, but if not it was close enough, and certainly better than > duct tape. > > > > The moral of the story: since then I have made it a firm practice to put > the cap in a pocket during fueling, and I have not lost another one. > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC USA > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > ] *On Behalf Of *m.g.sharp--- via Healeys > *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 10:59 PM > *To:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap > > > > Hi all, I foolishly drove off from the gas station and left my original > filler cap on the rear seat back. It fell of on the road and was run > over. Much misery ensued. > > > > I could buy a new replacement but they are not quite the same as the > originals, so does anyone out there have a used original filler cap they > will part with? I have a BT7, but I believe the same cap was fitted to all > the 6 cyl cars, and perhaps the 100s as well, but I am not sure of that. > > > > If you have something, please contact me off-list. > > > > With thanks, Mirek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Tue Nov 2 09:57:11 2021 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 08:57:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Uprated Brake Calipers for BT7 Message-ID: <81176E89-698F-4833-8AF8-459C8BAA0104@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sgerow2 at gmail.com Tue Nov 2 12:28:44 2021 From: sgerow2 at gmail.com (Steve Gerow) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:28:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Front Disks Message-ID: Bob, 2 main hurdles: 48-spoke wheels probably won't fit and you'll need adapter plates, which are available from the usual UK sources. These are available in 3.25" and 3.5" bolt centers. The latter will accept Type 16 or Toyota 4Runner 4 pot calipers (which work well without a servo - i'm using them with a 3/4" M/C on my BN6). The stock BN7 setup calls for a 5/8" M/C with smaller rear cylinders. A friend fitted a Girling .70 MC with good results. But you might stay with stock to start with. FWIW - a couple of years ago there was a guy in the US on eBay who was selling a disk brake kit for the Healey. That's all I remember. -- *Steve Gerow* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Tue Nov 2 12:46:27 2021 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 14:46:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Front Disks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've had the BN?BT-7 front discs on my car for many years. I cannot now remember but think I went to a smaller MC as Steve suggests. In order to balance front-rear braking I have an adjustable valve that can be adjusted to partially restrict flow through the line that goes to the rears mounted along the left frame rail and it is easily accessed with hood up. I think flow is reduced to about 65% when tightened down to full flow when open. Sometimes the eyes, fingers and toes are the best modulators of brake effort. On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 2:29 PM Steve Gerow via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Bob, > 2 main hurdles: 48-spoke wheels probably won't fit and you'll need adapter > plates, which are available from the usual UK sources. These are available > in 3.25" and 3.5" bolt centers. The latter will accept Type 16 or Toyota > 4Runner 4 pot calipers (which work well without a servo - i'm using them > with a 3/4" M/C on my BN6). > > The stock BN7 setup calls for a 5/8" M/C with smaller rear cylinders. A > friend fitted a Girling .70 MC with good results. But you might stay with > stock to start with. > > FWIW - a couple of years ago there was a guy in the US on eBay who was > selling a disk brake kit for the Healey. That's all I remember. > > -- > > *Steve Gerow* > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -- Best--Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Nov 2 12:57:49 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:57:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Front Disks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks all for the input. I gots some thinkin' to do (the wonky BN1/2 M/C seems to be an obstacle). Bob On 11/2/2021 11:28 AM, Steve Gerow via Healeys wrote: > Bob, > 2 main hurdles: 48-spoke wheels probably won't fit and you'll need > adapter plates, which are available from the usual UK sources. These > are available in 3.25" and 3.5" bolt centers. The latter will accept > Type 16 or Toyota 4Runner 4 pot calipers (which work well without a > servo - i'm using them with a 3/4" M/C on my BN6). > > The stock BN7 setup calls for a 5/8" M/C with smaller rear cylinders. > A friend fitted a Girling .70 MC with good results. But you might stay > with stock to start with. > > FWIW - a couple of years ago there was a guy in the US on eBay who was > selling a disk brake kit for the Healey. That's all I remember. > > -- > *Steve Gerow > * > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 2 23:09:20 2021 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 22:09:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: <010d01d7cfc1$e8d4b1d0$ba7e1570$@rr.com> References: <019f01d7cf95$a21c7650$e65562f0$@sympatico.ca> <010d01d7cfc1$e8d4b1d0$ba7e1570$@rr.com> Message-ID: <018301d7d070$f66b4a20$e341de60$@sbcglobal.net> I was parked my BT7 just outside of the entrance gate and someone rob me of my nice new chrome plated one. I went to NAPA also and bought another one. I hope that ASSHOLE reads this post! From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8Healeys via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:16 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap During my drive to Open Roads in Lake Tahoe in 2002, I filled my tank and drove away, not discovering until I stopped later that the noise I heard like something falling off the car was the petrol cap. I had laid it on the top cover, as was my habit during fueling. After a futile search for it over the last 20 miles, I came across a NAPA store in the country. Well, there is no chance they will have a Healey gas cap, but I went in to check anyway. The clerk simply asked "locking or non-locking?" and produced one exactly like the one I lost. I don't know if it was BMC factory original, but if not it was close enough, and certainly better than duct tape. The moral of the story: since then I have made it a firm practice to put the cap in a pocket during fueling, and I have not lost another one. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of m.g.sharp--- via Healeys Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 10:59 PM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap Hi all, I foolishly drove off from the gas station and left my original filler cap on the rear seat back. It fell of on the road and was run over. Much misery ensued. I could buy a new replacement but they are not quite the same as the originals, so does anyone out there have a used original filler cap they will part with? I have a BT7, but I believe the same cap was fitted to all the 6 cyl cars, and perhaps the 100s as well, but I am not sure of that. If you have something, please contact me off-list. With thanks, Mirek -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Wed Nov 3 10:46:23 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2021 16:46:23 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap Message-ID: >From AH Spares: 12B FUL114SS [1] FILLER CAP - STAINLESS STEEL O.E. STYLE [2] BN4-BJ8 1 $19.77 From NAPA: [3]Fuel Cap - LockingPart #: BK 7031113 IMPORTANT INFO: Can be used as a "Fuel Cap - Locking , Vented"Read More$12.49/ EachFree Shipping on orders over $3520% Off Eligible with 3+ Items [4]From: "John Spaur via Healeys" To: "BJ8Healeys" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Tuesday November 2 2021 10:10:14PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap I was parked my BT7 just outside of the entrance gate and someone rob me of my nice new chrome plated one. I went to NAPA also and bought another one. I hope that ASSHOLE reads this post! FROM: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] ON BEHALF OF BJ8Healeys via Healeys SENT: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:16 AM TO: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap During my drive to Open Roads in Lake Tahoe in 2002, I filled my tank and drove away, not discovering until I stopped later that the noise I heard like something falling off the car was the petrol cap. I had laid it on the top cover, as was my habit during fueling. After a futile search for it over the last 20 miles, I came across a NAPA store in the country. Well, there is no chance they will have a Healey gas cap, but I went in to check anyway. The clerk simply asked ?locking or non-locking?? and produced one exactly like the one I lost. I don?t know if it was BMC factory original, but if not it was close enough, and certainly better than duct tape. The moral of the story: since then I have made it a firm practice to put the cap in a pocket during fueling, and I have not lost another one. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA FROM: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] ON BEHALF OF m.g.sharp--- via Healeys SENT: Monday, November 1, 2021 10:59 PM TO: 'Healeys' SUBJECT: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap Hi all, I foolishly drove off from the gas station and left my original filler cap on the rear seat back. It fell of on the road and was run over. Much misery ensued. I could buy a new replacement but they are not quite the same as the originals, so does anyone out there have a used original filler cap they will part with? I have a BT7, but I believe the same cap was fitted to all the 6 cyl cars, and perhaps the 100s as well, but I am not sure of that. If you have something, please contact me off-list. With thanks, Mirek Links: ------ [1] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/FUEL-FUL101-TO-FUL149A/FILLER-CAP-STAINLESS-STEEL-OE-STYLE.ASPX [2] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/FUEL-FUL101-TO-FUL149A/FILLER-CAP-STAINLESS-STEEL-OE-STYLE.ASPX [3] https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BK_7031113?impressionRank=1 [4] https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BK_7031113?impressionRank=1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Wed Nov 3 11:35:54 2021 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 10:35:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Grease Fitting Size Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r3m1g4 at gmail.com Wed Nov 3 14:20:41 2021 From: r3m1g4 at gmail.com (Mike Garvey) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 16:20:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00ab01d7d0f0$46868b30$d393a190$@com> Has anyone tracked down a replacement gasket for the gas filler cap? Do I need to make one? Mike Michael Garvey 1967 BJ8/38046 Swampscott, MA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Henry G Leach via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2021 12:46 To: 'John Spaur' Cc: 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap >From AH Spares: 12B FUL114SS FILLER CAP - Stainless Steel O.E. Style BN4-BJ8 1 $19.77 >From NAPA: Fuel Cap - Locking Part #: BK 7031113 IMPORTANT INFO: Can be used as a "Fuel Cap - Locking , Vented" Read More $12.49 / Each Free Shipping on orders over $35 20% Off Eligible with 3+ Items From: "John Spaur via Healeys" To: "BJ8Healeys" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Tuesday November 2 2021 10:10:14PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap I was parked my BT7 just outside of the entrance gate and someone rob me of my nice new chrome plated one. I went to NAPA also and bought another one. I hope that ASSHOLE reads this post! From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8Healeys via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:16 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap During my drive to Open Roads in Lake Tahoe in 2002, I filled my tank and drove away, not discovering until I stopped later that the noise I heard like something falling off the car was the petrol cap. I had laid it on the top cover, as was my habit during fueling. After a futile search for it over the last 20 miles, I came across a NAPA store in the country. Well, there is no chance they will have a Healey gas cap, but I went in to check anyway. The clerk simply asked ?locking or non-locking?? and produced one exactly like the one I lost. I don?t know if it was BMC factory original, but if not it was close enough, and certainly better than duct tape. The moral of the story: since then I have made it a firm practice to put the cap in a pocket during fueling, and I have not lost another one. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of m.g.sharp--- via Healeys Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 10:59 PM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap Hi all, I foolishly drove off from the gas station and left my original filler cap on the rear seat back. It fell of on the road and was run over. Much misery ensued. I could buy a new replacement but they are not quite the same as the originals, so does anyone out there have a used original filler cap they will part with? I have a BT7, but I believe the same cap was fitted to all the 6 cyl cars, and perhaps the 100s as well, but I am not sure of that. If you have something, please contact me off-list. With thanks, Mirek -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Wed Nov 3 14:27:37 2021 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 16:27:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: <00ab01d7d0f0$46868b30$d393a190$@com> References: <00ab01d7d0f0$46868b30$d393a190$@com> Message-ID: It's a vented cap Mike so it isn't essential that it is air tight. The originals were made of a material like fiber gaskets but they are installed during assembly so you can't get them off. Never seen a source for them ... made mine from neoprene. M On Wed., Nov. 3, 2021, 4:21 p.m. Mike Garvey via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Has anyone tracked down a replacement gasket for the gas filler cap? Do > I need to make one? > > Mike > > Michael Garvey > 1967 BJ8/38046 > Swampscott, MA > > > > > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Henry > G Leach via Healeys > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 03, 2021 12:46 > *To:* 'John Spaur' > *Cc:* 'healeys at autox.team.net' > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap > > > > From AH Spares: > > *12B* > > *FUL114SS > * > > *FILLER CAP - Stainless Steel O.E. Style > * > > BN4-BJ8 > > 1 > > *$19.77* > > > > From NAPA: > > Fuel Cap - Locking > > > > *Part #: BK 7031113 > * > > *IMPORTANT INFO: > * > > *Can be used as a "Fuel Cap - Locking , Vented" > * > > *Read More * > > > > > > *$12.49 * > > */ Each * > > *Free Shipping on orders over $35 > * > > *20% Off Eligible with 3+ Items > * > > > > From: "John Spaur via Healeys" > To: "BJ8Healeys" > Cc: "Healeys" > Sent: Tuesday November 2 2021 10:10:14PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap > > I was parked my BT7 just outside of the entrance gate and someone rob me > of my nice new chrome plated one. I went to NAPA also and bought another > one. I hope that *ASSHOLE* reads this post! > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of* > BJ8Healeys via Healeys > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:16 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap > > > > During my drive to Open Roads in Lake Tahoe in 2002, I filled my tank and > drove away, not discovering until I stopped later that the noise I heard > like something falling off the car was the petrol cap. I had laid it on > the top cover, as was my habit during fueling. After a futile search for > it over the last 20 miles, I came across a NAPA store in the country. > Well, there is no chance they will have a Healey gas cap, but I went in to > check anyway. The clerk simply asked ?locking or non-locking?? and > produced one exactly like the one I lost. I don?t know if it was BMC > factory original, but if not it was close enough, and certainly better than > duct tape. > > > > The moral of the story: since then I have made it a firm practice to put > the cap in a pocket during fueling, and I have not lost another one. > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC USA > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of* > m.g.sharp--- via Healeys > *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 10:59 PM > *To:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap > > > > Hi all, I foolishly drove off from the gas station and left my original > filler cap on the rear seat back. It fell of on the road and was run > over. Much misery ensued. > > > > I could buy a new replacement but they are not quite the same as the > originals, so does anyone out there have a used original filler cap they > will part with? I have a BT7, but I believe the same cap was fitted to all > the 6 cyl cars, and perhaps the 100s as well, but I am not sure of that. > > > > If you have something, please contact me off-list. > > > > With thanks, Mirek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Wed Nov 3 15:23:29 2021 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:23:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: References: <00ab01d7d0f0$46868b30$d393a190$@com> Message-ID: My cap will not pull down tight against the detents without a gasket and when I lost mine AI cut one out of 3/16" red sheet rubber. On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 4:28 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > It's a vented cap Mike so it isn't essential that it is air tight. > The originals were made of a material like fiber gaskets but they are > installed during assembly so you can't get them off. > Never seen a source for them ... made mine from neoprene. > > M > > On Wed., Nov. 3, 2021, 4:21 p.m. Mike Garvey via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Has anyone tracked down a replacement gasket for the gas filler cap? Do >> I need to make one? >> >> Mike >> >> Michael Garvey >> 1967 BJ8/38046 >> Swampscott, MA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Henry >> G Leach via Healeys >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 03, 2021 12:46 >> *To:* 'John Spaur' >> *Cc:* 'healeys at autox.team.net' >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap >> >> >> >> From AH Spares: >> >> *12B* >> >> *FUL114SS >> * >> >> *FILLER CAP - Stainless Steel O.E. Style >> * >> >> BN4-BJ8 >> >> 1 >> >> *$19.77* >> >> >> >> From NAPA: >> >> Fuel Cap - Locking >> >> >> >> *Part #: BK 7031113 >> * >> >> *IMPORTANT INFO: >> * >> >> *Can be used as a "Fuel Cap - Locking , Vented" >> * >> >> *Read More * >> >> >> >> >> >> *$12.49 * >> >> */ Each * >> >> *Free Shipping on orders over $35 >> * >> >> *20% Off Eligible with 3+ Items >> * >> >> >> >> From: "John Spaur via Healeys" >> To: "BJ8Healeys" >> Cc: "Healeys" >> Sent: Tuesday November 2 2021 10:10:14PM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap >> >> I was parked my BT7 just outside of the entrance gate and someone rob me >> of my nice new chrome plated one. I went to NAPA also and bought another >> one. I hope that *ASSHOLE* reads this post! >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of* >> BJ8Healeys via Healeys >> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:16 AM >> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap >> >> >> >> During my drive to Open Roads in Lake Tahoe in 2002, I filled my tank and >> drove away, not discovering until I stopped later that the noise I heard >> like something falling off the car was the petrol cap. I had laid it on >> the top cover, as was my habit during fueling. After a futile search for >> it over the last 20 miles, I came across a NAPA store in the country. >> Well, there is no chance they will have a Healey gas cap, but I went in to >> check anyway. The clerk simply asked ?locking or non-locking?? and >> produced one exactly like the one I lost. I don?t know if it was BMC >> factory original, but if not it was close enough, and certainly better than >> duct tape. >> >> >> >> The moral of the story: since then I have made it a firm practice to put >> the cap in a pocket during fueling, and I have not lost another one. >> >> >> >> Steve Byers >> >> HBJ8L/36666 >> >> BJ8 Registry >> >> AHCA Delegate at Large >> >> Havelock, NC USA >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of* >> m.g.sharp--- via Healeys >> *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 10:59 PM >> *To:* 'Healeys' >> *Subject:* [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap >> >> >> >> Hi all, I foolishly drove off from the gas station and left my original >> filler cap on the rear seat back. It fell of on the road and was run >> over. Much misery ensued. >> >> >> >> I could buy a new replacement but they are not quite the same as the >> originals, so does anyone out there have a used original filler cap they >> will part with? I have a BT7, but I believe the same cap was fitted to all >> the 6 cyl cars, and perhaps the 100s as well, but I am not sure of that. >> >> >> >> If you have something, please contact me off-list. >> >> >> >> With thanks, Mirek >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -- Best--Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From javrugtman at htcnet.org Thu Nov 4 06:14:53 2021 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 08:14:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: References: <019f01d7cf95$a21c7650$e65562f0$@sympatico.ca> <010d01d7cfc1$e8d4b1d0$ba7e1570$@rr.com> <012a01d7cfc4$58593560$090ba020$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: so do Volkswagens On 11/3/2021 9:22 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: > This is why the 100 is a far superior vehicle....? may the fights > begin ....?? > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys > wrote: > > Hello > > The 100 petrol caps are in the boot and have a little chain > connecting it to the filler tube. The same with the Healey 2.4 Litre. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/javrugtman at htcnet.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Nov 4 08:28:39 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 07:28:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: References: <019f01d7cf95$a21c7650$e65562f0$@sympatico.ca> <010d01d7cfc1$e8d4b1d0$ba7e1570$@rr.com> <012a01d7cfc4$58593560$090ba020$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: One our annual long road trips my co-pilot/navigator and I always used the command/challenge: "Gas cap on? Gas cap on!" when starting up after fill-up. I also carry a spare in the boot. Bob On 11/4/2021 5:14 AM, John Vrugtman via Healeys wrote: > so do Volkswagens > > On 11/3/2021 9:22 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: >> This is why the 100 is a far superior vehicle....? may the fights >> begin ....?? >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys >> wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> The 100 petrol caps are in the boot and have a little chain >> connecting it to the filler tube. The same with the Healey 2.4 Litre. >> >> Hoo Roo >> >> Patrick Quinn >> >> Blue Mountains, Australia >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/javrugtman at htcnet.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Thu Nov 4 10:29:36 2021 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 09:29:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cylinder gas tank in a 100/4 Message-ID: I have rescued a BN1 with no gas tank. But, I have an extra 6 cylinder car gas tank. Has anyone fabbed up a filler neck for a 6 cylinder tank so I can keep the gas cap in the trunk and still be able to fill the tank easily? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Thu Nov 4 11:11:36 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 17:11:36 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap Message-ID: <14eee0da33592574b1e14ae9845355e9a7e7dbb1@webmail> ..and I particularly like the whiff of petrol in my face when I open the boot! That's character! Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Alan Seigrist via Healeys" To: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" Cc: "Healey list" Sent: Wednesday November 3 2021 6:23:35PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap This is why the 100 is a far superior vehicle.... may the fights begin .... ? On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: Hello The 100 petrol caps are in the boot and have a little chain connecting it to the filler tube. The same with the Healey 2.4 Litre. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Nov 4 11:20:02 2021 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 13:20:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap In-Reply-To: <14eee0da33592574b1e14ae9845355e9a7e7dbb1@webmail> References: <14eee0da33592574b1e14ae9845355e9a7e7dbb1@webmail> Message-ID: I had a short piece of 1/4" ID tubing brazed to the cap and ran a length of flexible hose overboard via the hole for the right bumper support. No more fumes.... On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 1:12 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > ...and I particularly like the whiff of petrol in my face when I open the > boot! That's character! Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Alan Seigrist via Healeys" > To: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" > Cc: "Healey list" > Sent: Wednesday November 3 2021 6:23:35PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap > > This is why the 100 is a far superior vehicle.... may the fights begin > .... ? > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Hello >> >> >> >> The 100 petrol caps are in the boot and have a little chain connecting it >> to the filler tube. The same with the Healey 2.4 Litre. >> >> >> >> Hoo Roo >> >> >> >> Patrick Quinn >> >> Blue Mountains, Australia >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -- Best--Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Thu Nov 4 11:59:10 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 17:59:10 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap Message-ID: <4015b43b545cc0861cb81154d7f372dd97c5ad37@webmail> I have seen that option in use, however I keep mine stock, so as to insure that my vented cap is functioning as designed. Nothing worse than a dead spider blocking the passage of fumes. I don't keep my jacket in the boot, to avoid derogatory comments from my wife. I also use a large filtered funnel to fill my tank from a 5 gal. can. This prevents my Armacord from becoming petrified. These "features" are what make the 100 such a special car with such loving memories. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Michael Oritt" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Alan Seigrist", "Healey list" Sent: Thursday November 4 2021 10:20:34AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap I had a short piece of 1/4" ID tubing brazed to the cap and ran a length of flexible hose overboard via the hole for the right bumper support. No more fumes.... On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 1:12 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: ...and I particularly like the whiff of petrol in my face when I open the boot! That's character! Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Alan Seigrist via Healeys" To: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" Cc: "Healey list" Sent: Wednesday November 3 2021 6:23:35PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Filler Cap This is why the 100 is a far superior vehicle.... may the fights begin .... ? On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: Hello The 100 petrol caps are in the boot and have a little chain connecting it to the filler tube. The same with the Healey 2.4 Litre. 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URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Thu Nov 4 12:31:14 2021 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 18:31:14 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cylinder gas tank in a 100/4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It may fit but I would not weld a neck on a six cyl tank that has been used in the past, nor would I cut the round hole, no matter how long it has not been used, there is still fumes in there, not worth it to me, I?d buy new. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows From: richard mayor via Healeys Sent: November 4, 2021 11:30 AM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] 6 cylinder gas tank in a 100/4 I have rescued a BN1 with no gas tank. But, I have an extra 6 cylinder car gas tank. Has anyone fabbed up a filler neck for a 6 cylinder tank so I can keep the gas cap in the trunk and still be able to fill the tank easily? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Thu Nov 4 14:39:11 2021 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 16:39:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cylinder gas tank in a 100/4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11D704AA-7C00-4AE3-9D2E-5A288A56B3F3@aol.com> You can use the metal filler neck from a Spridget and a little modification and get the cap positioned much closer to the rear of the car. P Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 4, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Jean Caron via Healeys wrote: > > ? > It may fit but I would not weld a neck on a six cyl tank that has been used in the past, nor would I cut the round hole, no matter how long it has not been used, there is still fumes in there, not worth it to me, I?d buy new. > > Jean > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > From: richard mayor via Healeys > Sent: November 4, 2021 11:30 AM > To: healeys > Subject: [Healeys] 6 cylinder gas tank in a 100/4 > > I have rescued a BN1 with no gas tank. But, I have an extra 6 cylinder car gas tank. Has anyone fabbed up a filler neck for a 6 cylinder tank so I can keep the gas cap in the trunk and still be able to fill the tank easily? > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Thu Nov 4 18:44:24 2021 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 17:44:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 6 cylinder gas tank in a 100/4 In-Reply-To: <11D704AA-7C00-4AE3-9D2E-5A288A56B3F3@aol.com> References: <11D704AA-7C00-4AE3-9D2E-5A288A56B3F3@aol.com> Message-ID: I don't know what a Spridget tank filler looks like. Similar to the 100/4 filler neck? Are used Spridget tanks easy to come by? On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 1:39 PM Perry Small via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > You can use the metal filler neck from a Spridget and a little > modification and get the cap positioned much closer to the rear of the car. > P > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 4, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Jean Caron via Healeys > wrote: > > ? > > It may fit but I would not weld a neck on a six cyl tank that has been > used in the past, nor would I cut the round hole, no matter how long it has > not been used, there is still fumes in there, not worth it to me, I?d buy > new. > > > > Jean > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > > > *From: *richard mayor via Healeys > *Sent: *November 4, 2021 11:30 AM > *To: *healeys > *Subject: *[Healeys] 6 cylinder gas tank in a 100/4 > > > > I have rescued a BN1 with no gas tank. But, I have an extra 6 cylinder > car gas tank. Has anyone fabbed up a filler neck for a 6 cylinder tank so I > can keep the gas cap in the trunk and still be able to fill the tank easily? > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Nov 5 10:04:50 2021 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 16:04:50 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo cable routing. Message-ID: <000501d7d25e$dd9fdfc0$98df9f40$@alexarevel.plus.com> Looking back through my files, I have contradictory info on this. So, here goes... My car is a RHD MkII BT7 with a centre shift box. It thus has the fibre glass tunnel cover which, I gather, continued to the bitter end in '67. You may recall that I sent in a pic of my tunnel cover a few weeks back and asked if it was an original or a latterly made repro. Thankfully, you said that it was original but it was pointed out that it had an extra hole. See attached. As I interpreted it, the "extra hole" is to the right and the correct way in is through the centrally located "correct routing for speedo cable". Assuming that is correct, I am led to wonder for what purpose some PO had drilled that extra hole..I wonder if the speedo cable's routing was so far out of line that it needed a slight short cut to achieve its destination. My cable goes through a grommet to the left of the bottom left corner of the control box. Is that correct? Or should it take a more central route? Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_9990 2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2875322 bytes Desc: not available URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Nov 5 10:32:57 2021 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 16:32:57 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo cable routing. In-Reply-To: <1B.86.24611.B6855816@smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com> References: <000501d7d25e$dd9fdfc0$98df9f40$@alexarevel.plus.com> <1B.86.24611.B6855816@smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com> Message-ID: <000001d7d262$cbd0b680$63722380$@alexarevel.plus.com> The plot thickens. Seems like I?m not the only one.. Attached. Simon From: grumpyinloomis Sent: 05 November 2021 16:15 To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Subject: RE: [Healeys] Speedo cable routing. I also have that hole, early BJ8 Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys > Date: 11/5/21 9:08 AM (GMT-08:00) To: 'Healeys' > Subject: [Healeys] Speedo cable routing. Looking back through my files, I have contradictory info on this. So, here goes?.. My car is a RHD MkII BT7 with a centre shift box. It thus has the fibre glass tunnel cover which, I gather, continued to the bitter end in ?67. You may recall that I sent in a pic of my tunnel cover a few weeks back and asked if it was an original or a latterly made repro. Thankfully, you said that it was original but it was pointed out that it had an extra hole. See attached. As I interpreted it, the ?extra hole? is to the right and the correct way in is through the centrally located ?correct routing for speedo cable?. Assuming that is correct, I am led to wonder for what purpose some PO had drilled that extra hole??I wonder if the speedo cable?s routing was so far out of line that it needed a slight short cut to achieve its destination. My cable goes through a grommet to the left of the bottom left corner of the control box. Is that correct? Or should it take a more central route? Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <000501d7d25e$dd9fdfc0$98df9f40$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000501d7d25e$dd9fdfc0$98df9f40$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: re: "I wonder if the speedo cable?s routing was so far out of line that it needed a slight short cut to achieve its destination. My cable goes through a grommet to the left of the bottom left corner of the control box. Is that correct? Or should it take a more central route?" Disclaimer: I've not owned nor worked on a RHD car. Since the speedometer gearing is on the left/port side of the O/D housing--unless RHD cars are different--on a LHD car the cable has to make, in effect, a 'hard' 90deg left turn. Yet, besides the occasional glitch speedos in LHD cars work, well, OK (what matters is that routing isn't so drastic as to kink or bind the cable). I can't see any purpose for the optional hole as the speedo cable would make a more graceful, easier turn to the right in a RHD car. My LHD BN2 has its cable just wedged between the gearbox cover and the scuttle, unless I installed it wrong. I can't imagine why /any /speedo cable would need to go through the scuttle/firewall, if that's what you mean by 'control box' (aka voltage regulator). Mechanical tach cables have to, though. On 11/5/2021 9:04 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: > > Looking back through my files, I have contradictory info on this. So, > here goes?.. > > My car is a RHD MkII BT7 with a centre shift box. It thus has the > fibre glass tunnel cover which, I gather, continued to the bitter end > in ?67. > > You may recall that I sent in a pic of my tunnel cover a few weeks > back and asked if it was an original or a latterly made repro. > Thankfully, you said that it was original but it was pointed out that > it had an extra hole. See attached. As I interpreted it, the ?extra > hole? is to the right and the correct way in is through the centrally > located ?correct routing for speedo cable?. > > Assuming that is correct, I am led to wonder for what purpose some PO > had drilled that extra hole??I wonder if the speedo cable?s routing > was so far out of line that it needed a slight short cut to achieve > its destination. My cable goes through a grommet to the left of the > bottom left corner of the control box. Is that correct? Or should it > take a more central route? > > Thanks, > > Simon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Fri Nov 5 11:39:11 2021 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 10:39:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo cable routing. In-Reply-To: References: <000501d7d25e$dd9fdfc0$98df9f40$@alexarevel.plus.com>, Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rianhey at btinternet.com Fri Nov 5 11:58:47 2021 From: rianhey at btinternet.com (Ian Hey) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 17:58:47 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo cable routing Message-ID: <004001d7d26e$c88fecf0$59afc6d0$@btinternet.com> I have just taken a photo of my restored RHD BJ7 with speedo cable but not gearbox tunnel installed. The speedo cable falls naturally in a position to pass through the right hand hole in the gearbox tunnel. My cable did when I bought the (1963) car in 1977, so this was probably the original fitment for this car. It would make sense for the cable to pass through the central hole in a LHD car. Ian Hey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2021-11-05 Speedo cable route.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 145091 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Fri Nov 5 12:20:39 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2021 18:20:39 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo cable routing Message-ID: <0284cf5f9a76bbc4cd9cec80e6cc757f52f1796e@webmail> THIS IS STOCK, UNTOUCHED BJ8 LHD ROUTING FOR THE CABLE, FROM THE MID POINT OF THE TUNNEL COVER UP TO THE GAUGES. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE HOLE TO THE RIGHT IS FOR USE ON RHD CARS, SO THAT THE SAME LENGTH SPEEDO CABLE could used for either configuration. Note the various lengths available from AH Spares, but the BJ8 cable is one length for either RHD or LHD cars, regardless of OD or not. I guess if you can fit the cable to the RHD gauge using the center hole fine, if not use the right side hole. Hank CBS111 [1] SPEEDOMETER CABLE(3`6') NON O/D [2] BN7/BT7.15881 ON, BJ7&BJ8 1 ?10.50 - + + 5 CBS112 [3] SPEEDOMETER CABLE(4`0') NON O/D [4] BN7/BT7.5589-16038 1 ?11.00 - + + 5 CBS113 [5] SPEEDOMETER CABLE(4`3') O/D [6] BN7/BT7.15881 ON, BJ7&BJ8 1 ?11.25 - + + 5 CBS114 [7] SPEEDOMETER CABLE(4`8') NON O/D [8] BN4,BN6, TO BN7/BT7.6774 1 ?11.45 - + + 5 CBS115 [9] SPEEDOMETER CABLE(5`2') O/D [10] BN4,BN6, TO BN7/BT7.6774 1 ?11.45 - + + 5 CBS116 [11] SPEEDOMETER CABLE(4`8') O/D.(USE CBS114) [12] BN7/BT7.5589-16038 -----------------------------------------From: "Ian Hey via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Friday November 5 2021 10:59:35AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo cable routing I have just taken a photo of my restored RHD BJ7 with speedo cable but not gearbox tunnel installed. The speedo cable falls naturally in a position to pass through the right hand hole in the gearbox tunnel. My cable did when I bought the (1963) car in 1977, so this was probably the original fitment for this car. It would make sense for the cable to pass through the central hole in a LHD car. Ian Hey Links: ------ [1] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE36-NON-OD.ASPX [2] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE36-NON-OD.ASPX [3] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE40-NON-OD.ASPX [4] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE40-NON-OD.ASPX [5] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE43-OD.ASPX [6] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE43-OD.ASPX [7] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE48-NON-OD.ASPX [8] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE48-NON-OD.ASPX [9] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE52-OD.ASPX [10] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE52-OD.ASPX [11] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE48-ODUSE-CBS114.ASPX [12] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE48-ODUSE-CBS114.ASPX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Fri Nov 5 12:23:30 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2021 18:23:30 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Re: Speedo cable routing Message-ID: Photo of BJ8 interior-see cable routing -----------------------------------------From: "Henry G Leach via Healeys" To: "Ian Hey" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Friday November 5 2021 11:21:23AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo cable routing This is stock, untouched BJ8 LHD routing for the cable, from the mid point of the tunnel cover up to the gauges. It is possible that the hole to the right is for use on RHD cars, so that the SAME LENGTH SPEEDO CABLE could used for either configuration. Note the various lengths available from AH Spares, but the BJ8 cable is one length for either RHD or LHD cars, regardless of OD or not. I guess if you can fit the cable to the RHD gauge using the center hole fine, if not use the right side hole. Hank CBS111 [1] SPEEDOMETER CABLE(3`6') NON O/D [2] BN7/BT7.15881 ON, BJ7&BJ8 1 ?10.50 - + + 5 CBS112 [3] SPEEDOMETER CABLE(4`0') NON O/D [4] BN7/BT7.5589-16038 1 ?11.00 - + + 5 CBS113 [5] SPEEDOMETER CABLE(4`3') O/D [6] BN7/BT7.15881 ON, BJ7&BJ8 1 ?11.25 - + + 5 CBS114 [7] SPEEDOMETER CABLE(4`8') NON O/D [8] BN4,BN6, TO BN7/BT7.6774 1 ?11.45 - + + 5 CBS115 [9] SPEEDOMETER CABLE(5`2') O/D [10] BN4,BN6, TO BN7/BT7.6774 1 ?11.45 - + + 5 CBS116 [11] SPEEDOMETER CABLE(4`8') O/D.(USE CBS114) [12] BN7/BT7.5589-16038 ----------------------------------------- From: "Ian Hey via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Friday November 5 2021 10:59:35AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo cable routing I have just taken a photo of my restored RHD BJ7 with speedo cable but not gearbox tunnel installed. The speedo cable falls naturally in a position to pass through the right hand hole in the gearbox tunnel. My cable did when I bought the (1963) car in 1977, so this was probably the original fitment for this car. It would make sense for the cable to pass through the central hole in a LHD car. Ian Hey Links: ------ [1] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE36-NON-OD.ASPX [2] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE36-NON-OD.ASPX [3] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE40-NON-OD.ASPX [4] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE40-NON-OD.ASPX [5] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE43-OD.ASPX [6] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE43-OD.ASPX [7] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE48-NON-OD.ASPX [8] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE48-NON-OD.ASPX [9] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE52-OD.ASPX [10] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE52-OD.ASPX [11] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE48-ODUSE-CBS114.ASPX [12] http://mail2.spectrum.net/HTTPS://WWW.AHSPARES.CO.UK/AUSTIN-HEALEY/BIG-HEALEY/CABLES/SPEEDOMETER-CABLE48-ODUSE-CBS114.ASPX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 2:00 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Looking for LED bulbs for my concours 100 which is +ve ground. > Found lots of -ve ground ones > > shorturl.at/nqsuU > > but as yet nothing positive > > M > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Nov 5 17:41:52 2021 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 23:41:52 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Cable routing In-Reply-To: <21D6FF59-7239-46FF-8725-798A25C1777D@aol.com> References: <21D6FF59-7239-46FF-8725-798A25C1777D.ref@aol.com> <21D6FF59-7239-46FF-8725-798A25C1777D@aol.com> Message-ID: <000001d7d29e$b6d9c5f0$248d51d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Thank you all for your replies. Drawing the info together, it seems that 1) some covers have one hole and some have two. Which is in the majority, I don't know and it doesn't matter (to me). 2) I'd been put on the wrong scent by previous references to extra/second holes etcetc. 3) My car, being RHD, either had two from the beginning or, less likely, a second one was drilled when the factory came to fit out the car's interior. 4) Either way, I'll revert to how it was originally with a grommet plugging the central hole and the cable going through the RHS hole. I may even fibre glass the central hole over and rub it flat. 5) I've see pics of the cable going through a slit in the tunnel cover carpet. Mine goes under the carpet where it goes up against the bulkhead and so remains hidden. Now to the ash tray..... If you've read this far.......the clutch saga seems to be over. I put the old clutch cover in and it works like a dream. So far. Car's still up the ramp as I await the return of the handbrake lever from the chroming people. The suppliers and I are still being polite but I can see a time coming when we have to have what the diplomats call a "Full and frank discussion". After all I did try 3 or 4 times with the new clutch cover........More details later. Simon From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Nov 5 19:55:22 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 18:55:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] SLR / SFT 7000 LED bulbs positive ground In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26186aba-bf3f-325c-2977-8b4a64cd1201@comcast.net> I've had good luck with these guys: https://litezupp.com/ ps. pun? On 11/5/2021 1:59 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > Looking for LED bulbs for my concours 100 which is +ve ground. > Found lots of -ve ground ones > > shorturl.at/nqsuU > > but as yet nothing positive > > M > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From allan-peters at sky.com Sat Nov 6 02:08:19 2021 From: allan-peters at sky.com (Allan Peters) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2021 08:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 14, Issue 376 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <858041203.1922974.1636186099054@mail.yahoo.com> REF,? lister seeking? 100-4? Crankshaft ?Ebay. uk? has a nice one at? ?500? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Regards, Allan On Friday, 5 November 2021, 18:00:54 GMT, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote: Send Healeys mailing list submissions to ??? healeys at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? healeys-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? healeys-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. tank (Robert Westcott) ? 2. Re: Speedo cable routing. (Bob Spidell) ? 3. Re: Speedo cable routing. (Harold Manifold) ? 4. Re: Speedo cable routing (Ian Hey) Hey Richard, I have a new 100 tank from AHSpares still in the box but a few years old. ?Never used it. Shipping might be a bit spendy but I would throw in a used gas ?cap. I would also want $200 for the tank. Rob re: "I wonder if the speedo cable?s routing was so far out of line that it needed a slight short cut to achieve its destination. My cable goes through a grommet to the left of the bottom left corner of the control box. Is that correct? Or should it take a more central route?" Disclaimer: I've not owned nor worked on a RHD car. Since the speedometer gearing is on the left/port side of the O/D housing--unless RHD cars are different--on a LHD car the cable has to make, in effect, a 'hard' 90deg left turn. Yet, besides the occasional glitch speedos in LHD cars work, well, OK (what matters is that routing isn't so drastic as to kink or bind the cable). I can't see any purpose for the optional hole as the speedo cable would make a more graceful, easier turn to the right in a RHD car. My LHD BN2 has its cable just wedged between the gearbox cover and the scuttle, unless I installed it wrong. I can't imagine why any speedo cable would need to go through the scuttle/firewall, if that's what you mean by 'control box' (aka voltage regulator). Mechanical tach cables have to, though. On 11/5/2021 9:04 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: Looking back through my files, I have contradictory info on this. So, here goes?.. ? My car is a RHD MkII BT7 with a centre shift box. It thus has the fibre glass tunnel cover which, I gather, continued to the bitter end in ?67. ? You may recall that I sent in a pic of my tunnel cover a few weeks back and asked if it was an original or a latterly made repro. Thankfully, you said that it was original but it was pointed out that it had an extra hole. See attached. As I interpreted it, the ?extra hole? is to the right and the correct way in is through the centrally located ?correct routing for speedo cable?. ? Assuming that is correct, I am led to wonder for what purpose some PO had drilled that extra hole??I wonder if the speedo cable?s routing was so far out of line that it needed a slight short cut to achieve its destination. My cable goes through a grommet to the left of the bottom left corner of the control box. Is that correct? Or should it take a more central route? ? Thanks, Simon Simon, ? I have a fiberglass trans cover that is yet to be installed that came from another LHD Healey. The hole that is open on yours has a rubber plug on mine and your pluged hole is open. It would make sense the speedo cable routing for RHD drive cars uses the hole normally pluged for LHD cars. ? Harold ? From: Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 9:57 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo cable routing. ? re: "I wonder if the speedo cable?s routing was so far out of line that it needed a slight short cut to achieve its destination. My cable goes through a grommet to the left of the bottom left corner of the control box. Is that correct? Or should it take a more central route?" Disclaimer: I've not owned nor worked on a RHD car. Since the speedometer gearing is on the left/port side of the O/D housing--unless RHD cars are different--on a LHD car the cable has to make, in effect, a 'hard' 90deg left turn. Yet, besides the occasional glitch speedos in LHD cars work, well, OK (what matters is that routing isn't so drastic as to kink or bind the cable). I can't see any purpose for the optional hole as the speedo cable would make a more graceful, easier turn to the right in a RHD car. My LHD BN2 has its cable just wedged between the gearbox cover and the scuttle, unless I installed it wrong. I can't imagine why any speedo cable would need to go through the scuttle/firewall, if that's what you mean by 'control box' (aka voltage regulator). Mechanical tach cables have to, though. On 11/5/2021 9:04 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: Looking back through my files, I have contradictory info on this. So, here goes?.. ? My car is a RHD MkII BT7 with a centre shift box. It thus has the fibre glass tunnel cover which, I gather, continued to the bitter end in ?67. ? You may recall that I sent in a pic of my tunnel cover a few weeks back and asked if it was an original or a latterly made repro. Thankfully, you said that it was original but it was pointed out that it had an extra hole. See attached. As I interpreted it, the ?extra hole? is to the right and the correct way in is through the centrally located ?correct routing for speedo cable?. ? Assuming that is correct, I am led to wonder for what purpose some PO had drilled that extra hole??I wonder if the speedo cable?s routing was so far out of line that it needed a slight short cut to achieve its destination. My cable goes through a grommet to the left of the bottom left corner of the control box. Is that correct? Or should it take a more central route? ? Thanks, Simon ? ? ? ? I have just taken a photo of my restored RHD BJ7 with speedo cable but not gearbox tunnel installed.? The speedo cable falls naturally in a position to pass through the right hand hole in the gearbox tunnel.? My cable did when I bought the (1963) car in 1977, so this was probably the original fitment for this car. ? It would make sense for the cable to pass through the central hole in a LHD car. ? 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Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Allan Peters via Healeys Sent: 06 November 2021 08:08 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 14, Issue 376 REF, lister seeking 100-4 Crankshaft ? Ebay. uk has a nice one at ?500 Regards, Allan On Friday, 5 November 2021, 18:00:54 GMT, healeys-request at autox.team.net > wrote: Send Healeys mailing list submissions to healeys at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to healeys-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at healeys-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." Today's Topics: 1. tank (Robert Westcott) 2. Re: Speedo cable routing. (Bob Spidell) 3. Re: Speedo cable routing. (Harold Manifold) 4. Re: Speedo cable routing (Ian Hey) Hey Richard, I have a new 100 tank from AHSpares still in the box but a few years old. Never used it. Shipping might be a bit spendy but I would throw in a used gas cap. I would also want $200 for the tank. Rob re: "I wonder if the speedo cable?s routing was so far out of line that it needed a slight short cut to achieve its destination. My cable goes through a grommet to the left of the bottom left corner of the control box. Is that correct? Or should it take a more central route?" Disclaimer: I've not owned nor worked on a RHD car. Since the speedometer gearing is on the left/port side of the O/D housing--unless RHD cars are different--on a LHD car the cable has to make, in effect, a 'hard' 90deg left turn. Yet, besides the occasional glitch speedos in LHD cars work, well, OK (what matters is that routing isn't so drastic as to kink or bind the cable). I can't see any purpose for the optional hole as the speedo cable would make a more graceful, easier turn to the right in a RHD car. My LHD BN2 has its cable just wedged between the gearbox cover and the scuttle, unless I installed it wrong. I can't imagine why any speedo cable would need to go through the scuttle/firewall, if that's what you mean by 'control box' (aka voltage regulator). Mechanical tach cables have to, though. On 11/5/2021 9:04 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: Looking back through my files, I have contradictory info on this. So, here goes?.. My car is a RHD MkII BT7 with a centre shift box. It thus has the fibre glass tunnel cover which, I gather, continued to the bitter end in ?67. You may recall that I sent in a pic of my tunnel cover a few weeks back and asked if it was an original or a latterly made repro. Thankfully, you said that it was original but it was pointed out that it had an extra hole. See attached. As I interpreted it, the ?extra hole? is to the right and the correct way in is through the centrally located ?correct routing for speedo cable?. Assuming that is correct, I am led to wonder for what purpose some PO had drilled that extra hole??I wonder if the speedo cable?s routing was so far out of line that it needed a slight short cut to achieve its destination. My cable goes through a grommet to the left of the bottom left corner of the control box. Is that correct? Or should it take a more central route? Thanks, Simon Simon, I have a fiberglass trans cover that is yet to be installed that came from another LHD Healey. The hole that is open on yours has a rubber plug on mine and your pluged hole is open. It would make sense the speedo cable routing for RHD drive cars uses the hole normally pluged for LHD cars. Harold From: Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 9:57 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo cable routing. re: "I wonder if the speedo cable?s routing was so far out of line that it needed a slight short cut to achieve its destination. My cable goes through a grommet to the left of the bottom left corner of the control box. Is that correct? Or should it take a more central route?" Disclaimer: I've not owned nor worked on a RHD car. Since the speedometer gearing is on the left/port side of the O/D housing--unless RHD cars are different--on a LHD car the cable has to make, in effect, a 'hard' 90deg left turn. Yet, besides the occasional glitch speedos in LHD cars work, well, OK (what matters is that routing isn't so drastic as to kink or bind the cable). I can't see any purpose for the optional hole as the speedo cable would make a more graceful, easier turn to the right in a RHD car. My LHD BN2 has its cable just wedged between the gearbox cover and the scuttle, unless I installed it wrong. I can't imagine why any speedo cable would need to go through the scuttle/firewall, if that's what you mean by 'control box' (aka voltage regulator). Mechanical tach cables have to, though. On 11/5/2021 9:04 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: Looking back through my files, I have contradictory info on this. So, here goes?.. My car is a RHD MkII BT7 with a centre shift box. It thus has the fibre glass tunnel cover which, I gather, continued to the bitter end in ?67. You may recall that I sent in a pic of my tunnel cover a few weeks back and asked if it was an original or a latterly made repro. Thankfully, you said that it was original but it was pointed out that it had an extra hole. See attached. As I interpreted it, the ?extra hole? is to the right and the correct way in is through the centrally located ?correct routing for speedo cable?. Assuming that is correct, I am led to wonder for what purpose some PO had drilled that extra hole??I wonder if the speedo cable?s routing was so far out of line that it needed a slight short cut to achieve its destination. My cable goes through a grommet to the left of the bottom left corner of the control box. Is that correct? Or should it take a more central route? Thanks, Simon I have just taken a photo of my restored RHD BJ7 with speedo cable but not gearbox tunnel installed. The speedo cable falls naturally in a position to pass through the right hand hole in the gearbox tunnel. My cable did when I bought the (1963) car in 1977, so this was probably the original fitment for this car. It would make sense for the cable to pass through the central hole in a LHD car. Ian Hey _______________________________________________ Healeys mailing list Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys archives: http://autox.team.net/archive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 36964 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rantal243 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 6 13:03:07 2021 From: rantal243 at yahoo.com (Richard Antal) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2021 19:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] empty carbs References: <1034719436.1895810.1636225387884.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1034719436.1895810.1636225387884@mail.yahoo.com> Greetings Healeyphiles,??? Winter approaching, it is my custom to turn off the fuel pump cut-off switch and run the engine of my BJ8 until it dies from lack of fuel. Is this wise, unwise, or neither? 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Thanks > rich antal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Nov 6 14:20:10 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2021 13:20:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] empty carbs In-Reply-To: <1034719436.1895810.1636225387884@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1034719436.1895810.1636225387884.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1034719436.1895810.1636225387884@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't see any problem with doing this, but I don't see any necessity, either. On 11/6/2021 12:03 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys wrote: > Greetings Healeyphiles, > ??? Winter approaching, it is my custom to turn off the fuel pump > cut-off switch and run the engine of my BJ8 until it dies from lack of > fuel. Is this wise, unwise, or neither? Thanks > rich antal > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sentenac.rw at gmail.com Sat Nov 6 17:03:09 2021 From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com (sentenac.rw at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2021 16:03:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] empty carbs In-Reply-To: <1034719436.1895810.1636225387884@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1034719436.1895810.1636225387884.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1034719436.1895810.1636225387884@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: couldn't hurt. My BN1 carb float valves tend to stick after a few weeks of storage. If there was no gas in the carbs they might not get so sticky. -Roland On Sat, 6 Nov 2021 19:03:07 +0000 (UTC), you wrote: >Greetings Healeyphiles,??? Winter approaching, it is my custom to turn off the fuel pump cut-off switch and run the engine of my BJ8 until it dies from lack of fuel. Is this wise, unwise, or neither? Thanksrich antal -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 6 17:35:31 2021 From: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com (Don Day) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2021 19:35:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate References: <1F9BB483-0C57-4619-9668-6407471AB819.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1F9BB483-0C57-4619-9668-6407471AB819@yahoo.com> Hi List If a 65 1/2 BJ8Healey has been sitting for over 12 years , Allegedly in a garage and I?m thinking the clutch plate could be stuck to the flywheel, can?t push clutch pedal in , can it be freed up . Thanks Don Sent from my iPad From healeyguy at aol.com Sat Nov 6 19:47:45 2021 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2021 21:47:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate In-Reply-To: <1F9BB483-0C57-4619-9668-6407471AB819@yahoo.com> References: <1F9BB483-0C57-4619-9668-6407471AB819@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <32D0E7C4-A718-4486-B6DA-B8E45667AB7B@aol.com> Don Maybe the slave cylinder is locked up. Pull the pin at the slave and see if the clutch pedal will move. P Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Don Day via Healeys wrote: > > ?Hi List > If a 65 1/2 BJ8Healey has been sitting for over 12 years , Allegedly in a garage and I?m thinking the clutch plate could be stuck to the flywheel, can?t push clutch pedal in , can it be freed up . > Thanks Don > > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > From gradea1 at charter.net Sat Nov 6 20:08:53 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2021 02:08:53 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate Message-ID: <236ce29a00a01952223fe0f808d462c782ebc42f@webmail> Twelve years could have built up some "goo" in the clutch master cylinder and prevent it from moving the piston. As Perry says, could also be the same issue in the slave. However, the clutch is hydraulic and the pedal does not move any mechanics (other than the piston rod) so it can't be mechanically hung up. The clutch disc is another issue which may show up later, and I would wonder if the brakes are functioning? Moisture really plays havoc with hydraulics especially if the car is not in a conditioned space. This is a good time to change all the fluid, replace hoses, rebuild or replace cylinders-fun stuff. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Perry Small via Healeys" To: "Don Day" Cc: "healey list" Sent: Saturday November 6 2021 6:48:37PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate Don Maybe the slave cylinder is locked up. Pull the pin at the slave and see if the clutch pedal will move. P Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Don Day via Healeys wrote: > > ?Hi List > If a 65 1/2 BJ8Healey has been sitting for over 12 years , Allegedly in a garage and I?m thinking the clutch plate could be stuck to the flywheel, can?t push clutch pedal in , can it be freed up . > Thanks Don > > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html /> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [1] http://autox.team.net/archive /> > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys /> > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com /> > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html /> Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [2] http://autox.team.net/archive /> Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys /> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gradea1 at charter.net /> Links: ------ [1] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys [2] http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When I got under the car and looked at the clutch slave cylinder, which I?m replacing I can?t move the clutch fork. I can?t budge it , I can?t move the piston rod . I?m going to finish rebuilding, replacing everything in both the clutch and brake hydraulics system. I?m just Puzzled as to why won?t move . Would this happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel? I may answer my own question the farther I get into the rebuild. I don?t want to need to replace the clutch. Don Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2021, at 10:08 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: > > ?Twelve years could have built up some "goo" in the clutch master cylinder and prevent it from moving the piston. As Perry says, could also be the same issue in the slave. However, the clutch is hydraulic and the pedal does not move any mechanics (other than the piston rod) so it can't be mechanically hung up. The clutch disc is another issue which may show up later, and I would wonder if the brakes are functioning? Moisture really plays havoc with hydraulics especially if the car is not in a conditioned space. > > This is a good time to change all the fluid, replace hoses, rebuild or replace cylinders-fun stuff. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Perry Small via Healeys" > To: "Don Day" > Cc: "healey list" > Sent: Saturday November 6 2021 6:48:37PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate > > Don > Maybe the slave cylinder is locked up. Pull the pin at the slave and see if the clutch pedal will move. > P > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 6, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Don Day via Healeys wrote: > > > > ?Hi List > > If a 65 1/2 BJ8Healey has been sitting for over 12 years , Allegedly in a garage and I?m thinking the clutch plate could be stuck to the flywheel, can?t push clutch pedal in , can it be freed up . > > Thanks Don > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > /> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > /> > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > /> > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > /> > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > /> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > /> > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > /> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gradea1 at charter.net > /> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Nov 6 21:55:39 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2021 20:55:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate In-Reply-To: References: <236ce29a00a01952223fe0f808d462c782ebc42f@webmail> Message-ID: re: "Would this happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel?" I think if it was just the clutch disk stuck to flywheel you'd still get at least some movement of the pedal. Early cars used coil springs in the cover plate to hold the disk firm to the flywheel, and later cars used diaphragm 'springs.' I think with either you'd at least be able to move the pedal until the springs reached their limit of travel (or you left leg reached its limit of strength). It's a long shot SWAG, but since the car has sat for a long time it's conceivable the fluid in the line has gelled and/or crystallized to the point it prevents flow to the slave cylinder (I have had BF gell up). I'm not sure you can move the release bearing fork much by hand, though I haven't tried; those are some strong springs in the cover plate. Bob On 11/6/2021 7:52 PM, Don via Healeys wrote: > Sorry I didn?t finish my story about the fixes I?ve done so far . When > I first got the car and I tried to push the clutch pedal it wouldn?t > move. ?After removing the carbs , which I?m going to rebuild I was > able to access the clutch master cylinder. After removing the lines to > the master cylinder i was able to push the pedal to the floor . I?m > replacing the lines to both the clutch and brake master cylinder. I?m > replacing both master cylinders . I?m replacing the hydraulic fluid > tank as it leaks. When I got under the car and looked at the clutch > slave cylinder, which I?m replacing I can?t move the clutch fork. I > can?t budge it , I can?t move the piston rod . I?m going to finish > rebuilding, replacing everything in both the clutch and brake > hydraulics system. I?m just Puzzled as to why won?t move . Would this > happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel? ?I may answer my > own question the farther I get into the rebuild. I don?t want to need > to replace the clutch. > ? ? ? ? ?Don > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 6, 2021, at 10:08 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: >> >> ?Twelve years could have built up some "goo" in the clutch master >> cylinder and prevent it from moving the piston. As Perry says, could >> also be the same issue in the slave. However, the clutch is hydraulic >> and the pedal does not move any mechanics (other than the piston rod) >> so it can't be mechanically hung up. The clutch disc is another issue >> which may show up later, and I would wonder if the brakes are >> functioning? Moisture really plays havoc with hydraulics especially >> if the car is not in a conditioned space. >> >> This is a good time to change all the fluid, replace hoses, rebuild >> or replace cylinders-fun stuff. Hank >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> >> From: "Perry Small via Healeys" >> To: "Don Day" >> Cc: "healey list" >> Sent: Saturday November 6 2021 6:48:37PM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate >> >> Don >> Maybe the slave cylinder is locked up. Pull the pin at the slave and >> see if the clutch pedal will move. >> P >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Nov 6, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Don Day via Healeys >> wrote: >> > >> > ?Hi List >> > If a 65 1/2 BJ8Healey has been sitting for over 12 years , >> Allegedly in a garage and I?m thinking the clutch plate could be >> stuck to the flywheel, can?t push clutch pedal in , can it be freed up . >> > Thanks Don >> > >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sun Nov 7 02:42:28 2021 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 09:42:28 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate In-Reply-To: References: <236ce29a00a01952223fe0f808d462c782ebc42f@webmail> Message-ID: <001101d7d3bb$ca4d2f00$5ee78d00$@alexarevel.plus.com> After/during a protracted battle with my clutch, I can confirm that it takes a lot of effort to move the fork by hand. A LOT. I used a lever and got virtually nowhere, but then, it seems, I?d been sold the wrong clutch cover. What did impress me was the comparison between how hard/impossible it was to move by hand and how easy it was to get it to move with the pedal once the hydraulics were 100%. Certainly, I?d want to convince myself that the hydraulics were 100% before assuming that the disk was stuck. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: 07 November 2021 03:56 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate re: "Would this happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel?" I think if it was just the clutch disk stuck to flywheel you'd still get at least some movement of the pedal. Early cars used coil springs in the cover plate to hold the disk firm to the flywheel, and later cars used diaphragm 'springs.' I think with either you'd at least be able to move the pedal until the springs reached their limit of travel (or you left leg reached its limit of strength). It's a long shot SWAG, but since the car has sat for a long time it's conceivable the fluid in the line has gelled and/or crystallized to the point it prevents flow to the slave cylinder (I have had BF gell up). I'm not sure you can move the release bearing fork much by hand, though I haven't tried; those are some strong springs in the cover plate. Bob On 11/6/2021 7:52 PM, Don via Healeys wrote: Sorry I didn?t finish my story about the fixes I?ve done so far . When I first got the car and I tried to push the clutch pedal it wouldn?t move. After removing the carbs , which I?m going to rebuild I was able to access the clutch master cylinder. After removing the lines to the master cylinder i was able to push the pedal to the floor . I?m replacing the lines to both the clutch and brake master cylinder. I?m replacing both master cylinders . I?m replacing the hydraulic fluid tank as it leaks. When I got under the car and looked at the clutch slave cylinder, which I?m replacing I can?t move the clutch fork. I can?t budge it , I can?t move the piston rod . I?m going to finish rebuilding, replacing everything in both the clutch and brake hydraulics system. I?m just Puzzled as to why won?t move . Would this happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel? I may answer my own question the farther I get into the rebuild. I don?t want to need to replace the clutch. Don Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2021, at 10:08 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: ?Twelve years could have built up some "goo" in the clutch master cylinder and prevent it from moving the piston. As Perry says, could also be the same issue in the slave. However, the clutch is hydraulic and the pedal does not move any mechanics (other than the piston rod) so it can't be mechanically hung up. The clutch disc is another issue which may show up later, and I would wonder if the brakes are functioning? Moisture really plays havoc with hydraulics especially if the car is not in a conditioned space. This is a good time to change all the fluid, replace hoses, rebuild or replace cylinders-fun stuff. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Perry Small via Healeys" To: "Don Day" Cc: "healey list" Sent: Saturday November 6 2021 6:48:37PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate Don Maybe the slave cylinder is locked up. Pull the pin at the slave and see if the clutch pedal will move. P Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Don Day via Healeys wrote: > > ?Hi List > If a 65 1/2 BJ8Healey has been sitting for over 12 years , Allegedly in a garage and I?m thinking the clutch plate could be stuck to the flywheel, can?t push clutch pedal in , can it be freed up . > Thanks Don > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Sun Nov 7 06:12:49 2021 From: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com (fsufan1952 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 08:12:49 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch bleeder References: Message-ID: Does anybody know who is currently selling the bleeder extension hose for the clutch slave cylinder? Thanks Don Sent from my iPhone From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Nov 7 06:22:55 2021 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (ahbn6 at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 08:22:55 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch bleeder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d7d3da$93c15050$bb43f0f0$@verizon.net> There is a listing of such vendors on my site at http://www.healey6.com/parts_suppliers.htm navigate to engine/transmission section John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 8:13 AM To: healey list Subject: [Healeys] Clutch bleeder Does anybody know who is currently selling the bleeder extension hose for the clutch slave cylinder? Thanks Don Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sun Nov 7 06:27:37 2021 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 08:27:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch bleeder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2288fffe-1af9-d1a7-420f-0a85ec488fe9@earthlink.net> Don, I am - for the 6 cylinders (not the Sprites); have a few left. I'd like to say thank-you to those that purchased one.? I made a donation to the DMH memorial fund last night at the AHCA's delegates meeting in Doug's memory.? Thank-you. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 11/7/21 8:12 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > Does anybody know who is currently selling the bleeder extension hose for the clutch slave cylinder? > Thanks Don > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From manifold at telus.net Sun Nov 7 08:59:48 2021 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 07:59:48 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate In-Reply-To: <001101d7d3bb$ca4d2f00$5ee78d00$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <236ce29a00a01952223fe0f808d462c782ebc42f@webmail> , <001101d7d3bb$ca4d2f00$5ee78d00$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Nov 7 09:34:57 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 08:34:57 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate In-Reply-To: References: <236ce29a00a01952223fe0f808d462c782ebc42f@webmail> <001101d7d3bb$ca4d2f00$5ee78d00$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: re: "the clutch plate would have to be stuck [to the] transmission shaft" The most plausible explanation yet. Sitting for years, esp. in a damp climate, the splines could very well 'rust-weld' together given their small clearance. I don't know if it's common practice, but I always put some tenacious grease, usually wheel bearing grease, on those splines (thin coat only). On 11/7/2021 7:59 AM, Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: > > I would sort out the hydraulics first and then if it still doesn?t > move the clutch pressure plate mechanism may be seized. The clutch > plate would have to be stuck to both the pressure plate and the > flywheel and or the transmission shaft to prevent movement. > > Harold > > *From: *Simon Lachlan via Healeys > *Sent: *Sunday, November 7, 2021 1:43 AM > *Cc: *Healeys > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate > > After/during a protracted battle with my clutch, I can confirm that it > takes a lot of effort to move the fork by hand. A LOT. I used a lever > and got virtually nowhere, but then, it seems, I?d been sold the wrong > clutch cover. > > What did impress me was the comparison between how hard/impossible it > was to move by hand and how easy it was to get it to move with the > pedal once the hydraulics were 100%. > > Certainly, I?d want to convince myself that the hydraulics were 100% > before assuming that the disk was stuck. > > Simon > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Bob > Spidell via Healeys > *Sent:* 07 November 2021 03:56 > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate > > re: "Would this happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel?" > > I think if it was just the clutch disk stuck to flywheel you'd still > get at least some movement of the pedal. Early cars used coil springs > in the cover plate to hold the disk firm to the flywheel, and later > cars used diaphragm 'springs.' I think with either you'd at least be > able to move the pedal until the springs reached their limit of travel > (or you left leg reached its limit of strength). > > It's a long shot SWAG, but since the car has sat for a long time it's > conceivable the fluid in the line has gelled and/or crystallized to > the point it prevents flow to the slave cylinder (I have had BF gell > up). I'm not sure you can move the release bearing fork much by hand, > though I haven't tried; those are some strong springs in the cover plate. > > Bob > > On 11/6/2021 7:52 PM, Don via Healeys wrote: > > Sorry I didn?t finish my story about the fixes I?ve done so far . > When I first got the car and I tried to push the clutch pedal it > wouldn?t move. ?After removing the carbs , which I?m going to > rebuild I was able to access the clutch master cylinder. After > removing the lines to the master cylinder i was able to push the > pedal to the floor . I?m replacing the lines to both the clutch > and brake master cylinder. I?m replacing both master cylinders . > I?m replacing the hydraulic fluid tank as it leaks. When I got > under the car and looked at the clutch slave cylinder, which I?m > replacing I can?t move the clutch fork. I can?t budge it , I can?t > move the piston rod . I?m going to finish rebuilding, replacing > everything in both the clutch and brake hydraulics system. I?m > just Puzzled as to why won?t move . Would this happen if the > clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel? ?I may answer my own > question the farther I get into the rebuild. I don?t want to need > to replace the clutch. > > ? ? ? ? ?Don > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 6, 2021, at 10:08 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: > > ?Twelve years could have built up some "goo" in the clutch > master cylinder and prevent it from moving the piston. As > Perry says, could also be the same issue in the slave. > However, the clutch is hydraulic and the pedal does not move > any mechanics (other than the piston rod) so it can't be > mechanically hung up. The clutch disc is another issue which > may show up later, and I would wonder if the brakes are > functioning? Moisture really plays havoc with hydraulics > especially if the car is not in a conditioned space. > > This is a good time to change all the fluid, replace hoses, > rebuild or replace cylinders-fun stuff. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Perry Small via Healeys" > To: "Don Day" > Cc: "healey list" > Sent: Saturday November 6 2021 6:48:37PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate > > Don > Maybe the slave cylinder is locked up. Pull the pin at the > slave and see if the clutch pedal will move. > P > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 6, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Don Day via Healeys > wrote: > > > > ?Hi List > > If a 65 1/2 BJ8Healey has been sitting for over 12 years , > Allegedly in a garage and I?m thinking the clutch plate could > be stuck to the flywheel, can?t push clutch pedal in , can it > be freed up . > > Thanks Don > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Sun Nov 7 12:44:03 2021 From: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com (fsufan1952 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 14:44:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F4D2E42-D104-4598-BCD9-7BC1763E8907@yahoo.com> Problem found . I was able to remove the clutch slave cylinder. I took the dust cap off and what looks like sand came pouring out . Piston frozen solid . Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2021, at 11:35 AM, Bob Spidell via Healeys wrote: > > ? re: "the clutch plate would have to be stuck [to the] transmission shaft" > > The most plausible explanation yet. Sitting for years, esp. in a damp climate, the splines could very well 'rust-weld' together given their small clearance. I don't know if it's common practice, but I always put some tenacious grease, usually wheel bearing grease, on those splines (thin coat only). > > > On 11/7/2021 7:59 AM, Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: >> I would sort out the hydraulics first and then if it still doesn?t move the clutch pressure plate mechanism may be seized. The clutch plate would have to be stuck to both the pressure plate and the flywheel and or the transmission shaft to prevent movement. >> >> Harold >> >> From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys >> Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 1:43 AM >> Cc: Healeys >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate >> >> After/during a protracted battle with my clutch, I can confirm that it takes a lot of effort to move the fork by hand. A LOT. I used a lever and got virtually nowhere, but then, it seems, I?d been sold the wrong clutch cover. >> What did impress me was the comparison between how hard/impossible it was to move by hand and how easy it was to get it to move with the pedal once the hydraulics were 100%. >> Certainly, I?d want to convince myself that the hydraulics were 100% before assuming that the disk was stuck. >> Simon >> >> From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell via Healeys >> Sent: 07 November 2021 03:56 >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate >> >> re: "Would this happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel?" >> >> I think if it was just the clutch disk stuck to flywheel you'd still get at least some movement of the pedal. Early cars used coil springs in the cover plate to hold the disk firm to the flywheel, and later cars used diaphragm 'springs.' I think with either you'd at least be able to move the pedal until the springs reached their limit of travel (or you left leg reached its limit of strength). >> >> It's a long shot SWAG, but since the car has sat for a long time it's conceivable the fluid in the line has gelled and/or crystallized to the point it prevents flow to the slave cylinder (I have had BF gell up). I'm not sure you can move the release bearing fork much by hand, though I haven't tried; those are some strong springs in the cover plate. >> >> Bob >> >> On 11/6/2021 7:52 PM, Don via Healeys wrote: >> Sorry I didn?t finish my story about the fixes I?ve done so far . When I first got the car and I tried to push the clutch pedal it wouldn?t move. After removing the carbs , which I?m going to rebuild I was able to access the clutch master cylinder. After removing the lines to the master cylinder i was able to push the pedal to the floor . I?m replacing the lines to both the clutch and brake master cylinder. I?m replacing both master cylinders . I?m replacing the hydraulic fluid tank as it leaks. When I got under the car and looked at the clutch slave cylinder, which I?m replacing I can?t move the clutch fork. I can?t budge it , I can?t move the piston rod . I?m going to finish rebuilding, replacing everything in both the clutch and brake hydraulics system. I?m just Puzzled as to why won?t move . Would this happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel? I may answer my own question the farther I get into the rebuild. I don?t want to need to replace the clutch. >> Don >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Nov 6, 2021, at 10:08 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: >> >> ?Twelve years could have built up some "goo" in the clutch master cylinder and prevent it from moving the piston. As Perry says, could also be the same issue in the slave. However, the clutch is hydraulic and the pedal does not move any mechanics (other than the piston rod) so it can't be mechanically hung up. The clutch disc is another issue which may show up later, and I would wonder if the brakes are functioning? Moisture really plays havoc with hydraulics especially if the car is not in a conditioned space. >> >> This is a good time to change all the fluid, replace hoses, rebuild or replace cylinders-fun stuff. Hank >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> >> From: "Perry Small via Healeys" >> To: "Don Day" >> Cc: "healey list" >> Sent: Saturday November 6 2021 6:48:37PM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate >> >> Don >> Maybe the slave cylinder is locked up. Pull the pin at the slave and see if the clutch pedal will move. >> P >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Nov 6, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Don Day via Healeys wrote: >> > >> > ?Hi List >> > If a 65 1/2 BJ8Healey has been sitting for over 12 years , Allegedly in a garage and I?m thinking the clutch plate could be stuck to the flywheel, can?t push clutch pedal in , can it be freed up . >> > Thanks Don >> > >> > >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fsufan1952 at yahoo.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 140396 bytes Desc: not available URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Nov 7 15:09:50 2021 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 14:09:50 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate In-Reply-To: <5F4D2E42-D104-4598-BCD9-7BC1763E8907@yahoo.com> References: <5F4D2E42-D104-4598-BCD9-7BC1763E8907@yahoo.com> Message-ID: So now you are overhauling your entire hydraulic system and blowing out your lines. Never seen sand before....very strange Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Sun, Nov 7, 2021, 11:44 AM Don via Healeys wrote: > Problem found . I was able to remove the clutch slave cylinder. I took the > dust cap off and what looks like sand came pouring out . Piston frozen > solid . > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 7, 2021, at 11:35 AM, Bob Spidell via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? re: "the clutch plate would have to be stuck [to the] transmission shaft" > > The most plausible explanation yet. Sitting for years, esp. in a damp > climate, the splines could very well 'rust-weld' together given their small > clearance. I don't know if it's common practice, but I always put some > tenacious grease, usually wheel bearing grease, on those splines (thin coat > only). > > > On 11/7/2021 7:59 AM, Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: > > I would sort out the hydraulics first and then if it still doesn?t move > the clutch pressure plate mechanism may be seized. The clutch plate would > have to be stuck to both the pressure plate and the flywheel and or the > transmission shaft to prevent movement. > > > > Harold > > > > *From: *Simon Lachlan via Healeys > *Sent: *Sunday, November 7, 2021 1:43 AM > *Cc: *Healeys > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate > > > > After/during a protracted battle with my clutch, I can confirm that it > takes a lot of effort to move the fork by hand. A LOT. I used a lever and > got virtually nowhere, but then, it seems, I?d been sold the wrong clutch > cover. > > What did impress me was the comparison between how hard/impossible it was > to move by hand and how easy it was to get it to move with the pedal once > the hydraulics were 100%. > > Certainly, I?d want to convince myself that the hydraulics were 100% > before assuming that the disk was stuck. > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys > *On Behalf Of *Bob Spidell via Healeys > *Sent:* 07 November 2021 03:56 > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate > > > > re: "Would this happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel?" > > I think if it was just the clutch disk stuck to flywheel you'd still get > at least some movement of the pedal. Early cars used coil springs in the > cover plate to hold the disk firm to the flywheel, and later cars used > diaphragm 'springs.' I think with either you'd at least be able to move the > pedal until the springs reached their limit of travel (or you left leg > reached its limit of strength). > > It's a long shot SWAG, but since the car has sat for a long time it's > conceivable the fluid in the line has gelled and/or crystallized to the > point it prevents flow to the slave cylinder (I have had BF gell up). I'm > not sure you can move the release bearing fork much by hand, though I > haven't tried; those are some strong springs in the cover plate. > > Bob > > On 11/6/2021 7:52 PM, Don via Healeys wrote: > > Sorry I didn?t finish my story about the fixes I?ve done so far . When I > first got the car and I tried to push the clutch pedal it wouldn?t move. > After removing the carbs , which I?m going to rebuild I was able to access > the clutch master cylinder. After removing the lines to the master cylinder > i was able to push the pedal to the floor . I?m replacing the lines to both > the clutch and brake master cylinder. I?m replacing both master cylinders . > I?m replacing the hydraulic fluid tank as it leaks. When I got under the > car and looked at the clutch slave cylinder, which I?m replacing I can?t > move the clutch fork. I can?t budge it , I can?t move the piston rod . I?m > going to finish rebuilding, replacing everything in both the clutch and > brake hydraulics system. I?m just Puzzled as to why won?t move . Would this > happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel? I may answer my own > question the farther I get into the rebuild. I don?t want to need to > replace the clutch. > > Don > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 6, 2021, at 10:08 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: > > ?Twelve years could have built up some "goo" in the clutch master cylinder > and prevent it from moving the piston. As Perry says, could also be the > same issue in the slave. However, the clutch is hydraulic and the pedal > does not move any mechanics (other than the piston rod) so it can't be > mechanically hung up. The clutch disc is another issue which may show up > later, and I would wonder if the brakes are functioning? Moisture really > plays havoc with hydraulics especially if the car is not in a conditioned > space. > > > > This is a good time to change all the fluid, replace hoses, rebuild or > replace cylinders-fun stuff. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Perry Small via Healeys" > To: "Don Day" > Cc: "healey list" > Sent: Saturday November 6 2021 6:48:37PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate > > Don > Maybe the slave cylinder is locked up. Pull the pin at the slave and see > if the clutch pedal will move. > P > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 6, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Don Day via Healeys > wrote: > > > > ?Hi List > > If a 65 1/2 BJ8Healey has been sitting for over 12 years , Allegedly in > a garage and I?m thinking the clutch plate could be stuck to the flywheel, > can?t push clutch pedal in , can it be freed up . > > Thanks Don > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fsufan1952 at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Piston frozen > solid . > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 140396 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 140396 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Nov 7 16:48:19 2021 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 23:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate In-Reply-To: References: <5F4D2E42-D104-4598-BCD9-7BC1763E8907@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1936045729.929792.1636328899190@mail.yahoo.com> I had the same problem only also corrupted the brake lines. I was using dot3. No granuels bru the fluid was like almost finished Jello.Solution was to scrap the lines abd install Mr.finespanners lines. Also his clutch bleeder. Cured the problem? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Sunday, November 7, 2021, 6:39 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: I think they are crystals of evaporated brake fliud ... common on old leaking systems. M On Sun., Nov. 7, 2021, 6:22 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, wrote: Can you tell if silicone BF was used in this car? On 11/7/2021 11:44 AM, fsufan1952 at yahoo.com wrote: Problem found . I was able to remove the clutch slave cylinder. I took the dust cap off and what looks like sand came pouring out . 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URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Sun Nov 7 16:49:03 2021 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 15:49:03 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate In-Reply-To: References: <5F4D2E42-D104-4598-BCD9-7BC1763E8907@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've parted out a few 110/6s back in the day and seen that exact same thing - crystalized brake fluid. I've found the easiest and safest way to clean them is to tumble them. On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 3:39 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I think they are crystals of evaporated brake fliud ... common on old > leaking systems. > > M > > On Sun., Nov. 7, 2021, 6:22 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Can you tell if silicone BF was used in this car? >> >> >> >> On 11/7/2021 11:44 AM, fsufan1952 at yahoo.com wrote: >> >> Problem found . I was able to remove the clutch slave cylinder. I took >> the dust cap off and what looks like sand came pouring out . Piston frozen >> solid . >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sun Nov 7 18:49:21 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2021 01:49:21 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate Message-ID: <0ea4b6fb06915888db410b576c9e2bcc37b4be34@webmail> "?Twelve years could have built up some "goo" in the clutch master cylinder and prevent it from moving the piston."- Looks like in twelve years the goo turned to grit...bet the line and master are full of it. blow out all steel lines with compressed air, and replace rubber hoses, rebuild master. You can probably blow out the piston with air but set it face down on a rag before you do. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "richard mayor via Healeys" To: "Michael Salter" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday November 7 2021 3:57:48PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate I've parted out a few 110/6s back in the day and seen that exact same thing - crystalized brake fluid. I've found the easiest and safest way to clean them is to tumble them. On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 3:39 PM Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: I think they are crystals of evaporated brake fliud ... common on old leaking systems. M On Sun., Nov. 7, 2021, 6:22 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, wrote: Can you tell if silicone BF was used in this car? On 11/7/2021 11:44 AM, fsufan1952 at yahoo.com wrote: Problem found . I was able to remove the clutch slave cylinder. I took the dust cap off and what looks like sand came pouring out . 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URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sun Nov 7 19:38:20 2021 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 02:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Clutch plate In-Reply-To: <5F4D2E42-D104-4598-BCD9-7BC1763E8907@yahoo.com> References: <5F4D2E42-D104-4598-BCD9-7BC1763E8907@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1045488308.939874.1636339100853@mail.yahoo.com> DonIf the brown colored "grit" was inside the dust cap or rubber boot it was from the grease that was packed in there. It transforms from the red hydraulic grease to a dry powder over time.P -----Original Message----- From: Don via Healeys To: Bob Spidell Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Nov 7, 2021 2:44 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate Problem found . I was able to remove the clutch slave cylinder. I took the dust cap off and what looks like sand came pouring out . Piston frozen solid .? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2021, at 11:35 AM, Bob Spidell via Healeys wrote: ? re: "the clutch plate would have to be stuck [to the] transmission shaft" The most plausible explanation yet. Sitting for years, esp. in a damp climate, the splines could very well 'rust-weld' together given their small clearance. I don't know if it's common practice, but I always put some tenacious grease, usually wheel bearing grease, on those splines (thin coat only). On 11/7/2021 7:59 AM, Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv8731480729 p.yiv8731480729MsoNormal, #yiv8731480729 li.yiv8731480729MsoNormal, #yiv8731480729 div.yiv8731480729MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv8731480729 a:link, #yiv8731480729 span.yiv8731480729MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8731480729 .yiv8731480729MsoChpDefault {}#yiv8731480729 div.yiv8731480729WordSection1 {} I would sort out the hydraulics first and then if it still doesn?t move the clutch pressure plate mechanism may be seized. The clutch plate would have to be stuck to both the pressure plate and the flywheel and or the transmission shaft to prevent movement. ? Harold ? From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 1:43 AM Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate ? After/during a protracted battle with my clutch, I can confirm that it takes a lot of effort to move the fork by hand. A LOT. I used a lever and got virtually nowhere, but then, it seems, I?d been sold the wrong clutch cover. What did impress me was the comparison between how hard/impossible it was to move by hand and how easy it was to get it to move with the pedal once the hydraulics were 100%. Certainly, I?d want to convince myself that the hydraulics were 100% before assuming that the disk was stuck. Simon ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: 07 November 2021 03:56 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate ? re: "Would this happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel?" I think if it was just the clutch disk stuck to flywheel you'd still get at least some movement of the pedal. Early cars used coil springs in the cover plate to hold the disk firm to the flywheel, and later cars used diaphragm 'springs.' I think with either you'd at least be able to move the pedal until the springs reached their limit of travel (or you left leg reached its limit of strength). It's a long shot SWAG, but since the car has sat for a long time it's conceivable the fluid in the line has gelled and/or crystallized to the point it prevents flow to the slave cylinder (I have had BF gell up). I'm not sure you can move the release bearing fork much by hand, though I haven't tried; those are some strong springs in the cover plate. Bob On 11/6/2021 7:52 PM, Don via Healeys wrote: Sorry I didn?t finish my story about the fixes I?ve done so far . When I first got the car and I tried to push the clutch pedal it wouldn?t move. ?After removing the carbs , which I?m going to rebuild I was able to access the clutch master cylinder. After removing the lines to the master cylinder i was able to push the pedal to the floor . I?m replacing the lines to both the clutch and brake master cylinder. I?m replacing both master cylinders . I?m replacing the hydraulic fluid tank as it leaks. When I got under the car and looked at the clutch slave cylinder, which I?m replacing I can?t move the clutch fork. I can?t budge it , I can?t move the piston rod . I?m going to finish rebuilding, replacing everything in both the clutch and brake hydraulics system. I?m just Puzzled as to why won?t move . Would this happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel? ?I may answer my own question the farther I get into the rebuild. I don?t want to need to replace the clutch.? ? ? ? ? ?Don? Sent from my iPhone ? On Nov 6, 2021, at 10:08 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: ?Twelve years could have built up some "goo" in the clutch master cylinder and prevent it from moving the piston. As Perry says, could also be the same issue in the slave. However, the clutch is hydraulic and the pedal does not move any mechanics (other than the piston rod) so it can't be mechanically hung up. The clutch disc is another issue which may show up later, and I would wonder if the brakes are functioning? Moisture really plays havoc with hydraulics especially if the car is not in a conditioned space. ? This is a good time to change all the fluid, replace hoses, rebuild or replace cylinders-fun stuff. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Perry Small via Healeys" To: "Don Day" Cc: "healey list" Sent: Saturday November 6 2021 6:48:37PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate Don Maybe the slave cylinder is locked up. Pull the pin at the slave and see if the clutch pedal will move. P Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Don Day via Healeys wrote: > > ?Hi List > If a 65 1/2 BJ8Healey has been sitting for over 12 years , Allegedly in a garage and I?m thinking the clutch plate could be stuck to the flywheel, can?t push clutch pedal in , can it be freed up . > Thanks Don > > ? ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fsufan1952 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 7:28 AM Charles Schott via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I have a used 100 gas tank for $100 plus shipping. > > Regards, > > Charlie Schott > Panama City Beach, FL > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Robert Westcott via Healeys" > *To: *"Healeys" > *Sent: *Friday, November 5, 2021 11:47:45 AM > *Subject: *[Healeys] tank > > Hey Richard, > > I have a new 100 tank from AHSpares still in the box but a few years old. > Never used it. > > Shipping might be a bit spendy but I would throw in a used gas cap. > > I would also want $200 for the tank. > > Rob > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc at knology.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hank -----------------------------------------From: "richard mayor via Healeys" To: "Charles Schott" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Monday November 8 2021 7:51:27AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] tank Thank you for the offer but I have decided to use the 6 cylinder gas tank and keept the filler neck in the same location as the 6 cylinder cars. I have a damaged 100/6 rear shroud that I can use a donor for the filler cap area that I can weld into the 100/4 shroud. The deciding factor to do it this way were the stories of the gasoline smell in the trunk and having it permeate clothing. On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 7:28 AM Charles Schott via Healeys wrote: I have a used 100 gas tank for $100 plus shipping. Regards, Charlie Schott Panama City Beach, FL ------------------------- FROM: "Robert Westcott via Healeys" TO: "Healeys" SENT: Friday, November 5, 2021 11:47:45 AM SUBJECT: [Healeys] tank Hey Richard, I have a new 100 tank from AHSpares still in the box but a few years old. Never used it. Shipping might be a bit spendy but I would throw in a used gas cap. I would also want $200 for the tank. 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 8 10:59:44 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 09:59:44 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] tank In-Reply-To: <6b849784ca8a95e3c68c7541ba01eb38c78ce5fc@webmail> References: <6b849784ca8a95e3c68c7541ba01eb38c78ce5fc@webmail> Message-ID: <26a28f39-98ba-f18e-808d-5d8f814c36ae@comcast.net> Don't forget "Smoke-Flavored" On 11/8/2021 9:29 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: > Richard- if you do all that, you will miss out on that special Healey > aroma.? I was thinking of bottling it as "Motorhead No. 5"... a blend > of 92 Oct. petrol, Armacord backing stink, and spare tire rubber > smell.? It could sell at all fine parts suppliers as a true Healey > after shave. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "richard mayor via Healeys" > To: "Charles Schott" > Cc: "Healeys" > Sent: Monday November 8 2021 7:51:27AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] tank > > Thank you for the offer but I have decided to use the 6 cylinder gas > tank and keept the filler neck in the same location as the 6 cylinder > cars.? I have a damaged 100/6 rear shroud that I can use a donor for > the filler cap area that I can weld into the 100/4 shroud.? The > deciding factor to do it this way were the stories of the gasoline > smell in the trunk and having it permeate clothing. > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 7:28 AM Charles Schott via Healeys > wrote: > > I have a used 100 gas tank for $100 plus shipping. > > Regards, > > Charlie Schott > Panama City Beach, FL > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Mon Nov 8 12:58:07 2021 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 11:58:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] tank In-Reply-To: <6b849784ca8a95e3c68c7541ba01eb38c78ce5fc@webmail> References: <6b849784ca8a95e3c68c7541ba01eb38c78ce5fc@webmail> Message-ID: Hank, By Jove, I think you've hit on something big. I can see it now on the auto parts store shelf ........... nestled between jugs of Castrol and jars of Lucas replacement smoke. Might I suggest branding it "Eau de Healey"? Richard On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 9:30 AM wrote: > Richard- if you do all that, you will miss out on that special Healey > aroma. I was thinking of bottling it as "Motorhead No. 5"... a blend of 92 > Oct. petrol, Armacord backing stink, and spare tire rubber smell. It could > sell at all fine parts suppliers as a true Healey after shave. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "richard mayor via Healeys" > To: "Charles Schott" > Cc: "Healeys" > Sent: Monday November 8 2021 7:51:27AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] tank > > Thank you for the offer but I have decided to use the 6 cylinder gas tank > and keept the filler neck in the same location as the 6 cylinder cars. I > have a damaged 100/6 rear shroud that I can use a donor for the filler cap > area that I can weld into the 100/4 shroud. The deciding factor to do it > this way were the stories of the gasoline smell in the trunk and having it > permeate clothing. > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 7:28 AM Charles Schott via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I have a used 100 gas tank for $100 plus shipping. >> >> Regards, >> >> Charlie Schott >> Panama City Beach, FL >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* "Robert Westcott via Healeys" >> *To:* "Healeys" >> *Sent:* Friday, November 5, 2021 11:47:45 AM >> *Subject:* [Healeys] tank >> >> Hey Richard, >> >> I have a new 100 tank from AHSpares still in the box but a few years >> old. Never used it. >> >> Shipping might be a bit spendy but I would throw in a used gas cap. >> >> I would also want $200 for the tank. >> >> Rob >> >> [image: Trash20954d00e429d3ce884db115aa9b5552246] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc at knology.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Nov 8 19:24:37 2021 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 21:24:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] tank In-Reply-To: References: <6b849784ca8a95e3c68c7541ba01eb38c78ce5fc@webmail> Message-ID: I got rid of the fumes in my boot by having a short nipple braised onto the cap at the vent hole and carrying a vent hose overboard through hole for the left rear bumper bracket. On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 3:03 PM richard mayor via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hank, > > By Jove, I think you've hit on something big. I can see it now on the > auto parts store shelf ........... nestled between jugs of Castrol and > jars of Lucas replacement smoke. Might I suggest branding it "Eau de > Healey"? > > Richard > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 9:30 AM wrote: > >> Richard- if you do all that, you will miss out on that special Healey >> aroma. I was thinking of bottling it as "Motorhead No. 5"... a blend of 92 >> Oct. petrol, Armacord backing stink, and spare tire rubber smell. It could >> sell at all fine parts suppliers as a true Healey after shave. Hank >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> From: "richard mayor via Healeys" >> To: "Charles Schott" >> Cc: "Healeys" >> Sent: Monday November 8 2021 7:51:27AM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] tank >> >> Thank you for the offer but I have decided to use the 6 cylinder gas tank >> and keept the filler neck in the same location as the 6 cylinder cars. I >> have a damaged 100/6 rear shroud that I can use a donor for the filler cap >> area that I can weld into the 100/4 shroud. The deciding factor to do it >> this way were the stories of the gasoline smell in the trunk and having it >> permeate clothing. >> >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 7:28 AM Charles Schott via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> I have a used 100 gas tank for $100 plus shipping. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Charlie Schott >>> Panama City Beach, FL >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* "Robert Westcott via Healeys" >>> *To:* "Healeys" >>> *Sent:* Friday, November 5, 2021 11:47:45 AM >>> *Subject:* [Healeys] tank >>> >>> Hey Richard, >>> >>> I have a new 100 tank from AHSpares still in the box but a few years >>> old. Never used it. >>> >>> Shipping might be a bit spendy but I would throw in a used gas cap. >>> >>> I would also want $200 for the tank. >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> [image: Trash20954d00e429d3ce884db115aa9b5552246] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: >>> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc at knology.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: >>> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -- Best--Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: 65C971ED1C33443AAEA93D6C63B07516.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2265 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Nov 9 10:45:30 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 09:45:30 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims In-Reply-To: <707BCF42-C03C-4175-BBCD-5A1AE8B786A9@hxcore.ol> References: <707BCF42-C03C-4175-BBCD-5A1AE8B786A9@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: <52d1b76c-450d-b9c7-d6b0-f298d5a14764@comcast.net> I /think/--not sure--the packing washer is the one that goes under the C-clip, which keeps the guts of the M/C inside. If it wasn't fitted, the first time you applied the brakes the innards could spill out on the floorboard. My BJ8 came with a packing 'pieces' under the clutch cylinder, but I forgot to put it back in once and haven't missed it. Bob On 11/9/2021 8:56 AM, Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: > > Who knows what the purpose of the Master Cylinder Packing Piece is? > There are 4 on the brake master cylinder and none on the clutch master > cylinder. As far as I can tell the packing piece would reduce the > distance the push rod can travel into the bore of the master cylinder. > Is there an adjustment for the brake pedal and push rod that you use > these packing pieces to set? > > The workshop manual specifically mentions ?not forgetting to fit the > packing washer first? as part of the brake master cylinder installation. > > Thanks? Harold > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If it wasn't fitted, the first time you applied the brakes the innards could spill out on the floorboard. My BJ8 came with a packing 'pieces' under the clutch cylinder, but I forgot to put it back in once and haven't missed it. Bob On 11/9/2021 8:56 AM, Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: Who knows what the purpose of the Master Cylinder Packing Piece is? There are 4 on the brake master cylinder and none on the clutch master cylinder. As far as I can tell the packing piece would reduce the distance the push rod can travel into the bore of the master cylinder. Is there an adjustment for the brake pedal and push rod that you use these packing pieces to set? The workshop manual specifically mentions ?not forgetting to fit the packing washer first? as part of the brake master cylinder installation. Thanks? Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2265 bytes Desc: not available URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Tue Nov 9 12:31:09 2021 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 19:31:09 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims In-Reply-To: <707BCF42-C03C-4175-BBCD-5A1AE8B786A9@hxcore.ol> References: <707BCF42-C03C-4175-BBCD-5A1AE8B786A9@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: <000001d7d5a0$5a213b90$0e63b2b0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Certainly 4 are shown in my parts book, so suitable for MkIIs. Shaped and show as a fit between cylinder and bulkhead. Surely the fact there are 4 indicates that they are indeed meant as some form of adjustment shim. In my drawer of brake and clutch related ?useful stuff? there was an apparently unused brake master cylinder with an adjustable push rod. The shaft?s rod was threaded and screwed in and out of the clevis pin end and could be locked with a nut. Perhaps the cheap(er) shims replaced the more expensive cylinder? Adjusting the shaft in situ would be an absolute nightmare for anyone who wasn?t whippet thin and possessed of short arms with many joints. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Harold Manifold via Healeys Sent: 09 November 2021 16:56 To: Ken Fleming via Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims Who knows what the purpose of the Master Cylinder Packing Piece is? There are 4 on the brake master cylinder and none on the clutch master cylinder. As far as I can tell the packing piece would reduce the distance the push rod can travel into the bore of the master cylinder. Is there an adjustment for the brake pedal and push rod that you use these packing pieces to set? The workshop manual specifically mentions ?not forgetting to fit the packing washer first? as part of the brake master cylinder installation. Thanks? Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Shaped and show as a fit between cylinder and bulkhead. > Surely the fact there are 4 indicates that they are indeed meant as some form of adjustment shim. > In my drawer of brake and clutch related ?useful stuff? there was an apparently unused brake master cylinder with an adjustable push rod. The shaft?s rod was threaded and screwed in and out of the clevis pin end and could be locked with a nut. > Perhaps the cheap(er) shims replaced the more expensive cylinder? > Adjusting the shaft in situ would be an absolute nightmare for anyone who wasn?t whippet thin and possessed of short arms with many joints. > Simon > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Harold Manifold via Healeys > Sent: 09 November 2021 16:56 > To: Ken Fleming via Healeys > Subject: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims > > Who knows what the purpose of the Master Cylinder Packing Piece is? There are 4 on the brake master cylinder and none on the clutch master cylinder. As far as I can tell the packing piece would reduce the distance the push rod can travel into the bore of the master cylinder. Is there an adjustment for the brake pedal and push rod that you use these packing pieces to set? > > The workshop manual specifically mentions ?not forgetting to fit the packing washer first? as part of the brake master cylinder installation. > > > > > Thanks? Harold > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Tue Nov 9 14:12:07 2021 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 13:12:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims In-Reply-To: <000001d7d5a0$5a213b90$0e63b2b0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <707BCF42-C03C-4175-BBCD-5A1AE8B786A9@hxcore.ol> <000001d7d5a0$5a213b90$0e63b2b0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: The "packing pieces", or shims, go between the firewall and master cylinders. They move the master cylinders forward which then moves the pedal arms forward resulting in the pedal foot pad being lower. This way you can adjust the clutch and brake pedals to be at the same height. It does not change the stroke of the master cylinder in any way. On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:31 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Certainly 4 are shown in my parts book, so suitable for MkIIs. Shaped and > show as a fit between cylinder and bulkhead. > > Surely the fact there are 4 indicates that they are indeed meant as some > form of adjustment shim. > > In my drawer of brake and clutch related ?useful stuff? there was an > apparently unused brake master cylinder with an adjustable push rod. The > shaft?s rod was threaded and screwed in and out of the clevis pin end and > could be locked with a nut. > > Perhaps the cheap(er) shims replaced the more expensive cylinder? > > Adjusting the shaft in situ would be an absolute nightmare for anyone who > wasn?t whippet thin and possessed of short arms with many joints. > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Harold > Manifold via Healeys > *Sent:* 09 November 2021 16:56 > *To:* Ken Fleming via Healeys > *Subject:* [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims > > > > Who knows what the purpose of the Master Cylinder Packing Piece is? There > are 4 on the brake master cylinder and none on the clutch master cylinder. > As far as I can tell the packing piece would reduce the distance the push > rod can travel into the bore of the master cylinder. Is there an adjustment > for the brake pedal and push rod that you use these packing pieces to set? > > > > The workshop manual specifically mentions ?not forgetting to fit the > packing washer first? as part of the brake master cylinder installation. > > > > > > > > Thanks? Harold > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 11/9/2021 10:24 AM, John Spaur via Healeys wrote: > > It?s a shim, the guts are held in with a circlip. > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of > *Bob Spidell via Healeys > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 9, 2021 9:46 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims > > I /think/--not sure--the packing washer is the one that goes under the > C-clip, which keeps the guts of the M/C inside. If it wasn't fitted, > the first time you applied the brakes the innards could spill out on > the floorboard. > > My BJ8 came with a packing 'pieces' under the clutch cylinder, but I > forgot to put it back in once and haven't missed it. > > Bob > > On 11/9/2021 8:56 AM, Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: > > Who knows what the purpose of the Master Cylinder Packing Piece > is? There are 4 on the brake master cylinder and none on the > clutch master cylinder. As far as I can tell the packing piece > would reduce the distance the push rod can travel into the bore of > the master cylinder. Is there an adjustment for the brake pedal > and push rod that you use these packing pieces to set? > > The workshop manual specifically mentions ?not forgetting to fit > the packing washer first? as part of the brake master cylinder > installation. > > Thanks? Harold > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2265 bytes Desc: not available URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Nov 9 15:42:13 2021 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 22:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims In-Reply-To: <802f7ec9-2957-5f52-57be-e05bf2fc7bfa@comcast.net> References: <707BCF42-C03C-4175-BBCD-5A1AE8B786A9@hxcore.ol> <52d1b76c-450d-b9c7-d6b0-f298d5a14764@comcast.net> <004101d7d597$070ba2a0$1522e7e0$@sbcglobal.net> <802f7ec9-2957-5f52-57be-e05bf2fc7bfa@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2107869796.1378645.1636497733405@mail.yahoo.com> With most of the pushrods used on AH's the "washer" is permanently stuck on the pushrod.? Ball on one end and fork on the other. The pushrods with screw on forks allow the washer to be removed.P? From: Bob Spidell via Healeys ... with a washer under it. On 11/9/2021 10:24 AM, John Spaur via Healeys wrote: _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv5207358944 p.yiv5207358944MsoNormal, #yiv5207358944 li.yiv5207358944MsoNormal, #yiv5207358944 div.yiv5207358944MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv5207358944 a:link, #yiv5207358944 span.yiv5207358944MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5207358944 a:visited, #yiv5207358944 span.yiv5207358944MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5207358944 span.yiv5207358944EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv5207358944 .yiv5207358944MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv5207358944 div.yiv5207358944WordSection1 {} It?s a shim, the guts are held in with a circlip. ? Subject: Re: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims ? I think--not sure--the packing washer is the one that goes under the C-clip, which keeps the guts of the M/C inside. If it wasn't fitted, the first time you applied the brakes the innards could spill out on the floorboard. My BJ8 came with a packing 'pieces' under the clutch cylinder, but I forgot to put it back in once and haven't missed it. BobOn 11/9/2021 8:56 AM, Harold Manifold via Healeys wrote: Who knows what the purpose of the Master Cylinder Packing Piece is? There are 4 on the brake master cylinder and none on the clutch master cylinder. As far as I can tell the packing piece would reduce the distance the push rod can travel into the bore of the master cylinder. Is there an adjustment for the brake pedal and push rod that you use these packing pieces to set? ? The workshop manual specifically mentions ?not forgetting to fit the packing washer first? as part of the brake master cylinder installation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Tue Nov 9 16:35:56 2021 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 15:35:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims In-Reply-To: References: <707BCF42-C03C-4175-BBCD-5A1AE8B786A9@hxcore.ol> <000001d7d5a0$5a213b90$0e63b2b0$@alexarevel.plus.com>, Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2265 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Tue Nov 9 19:00:23 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 02:00:23 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims Message-ID: <04c3a49243777f12e68e0f809b7f20abfa9021e8@webmail> Guys-if the pushrod is non-adjustable, packing shims were used. If the rod is adjustable NO shims are necessary. Early cars had both masters with fixed rods. BJ8 has one of each-see pic. attached Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Harold Manifold via Healeys" To: "richard mayor", "simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Tuesday November 9 2021 3:44:05PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims I have two layers (1/8?) of packing shims between the master cylinder and the firewall and the brake pedal is about 1? below the clutch pedal. Is the whole idea to keep the brake pedal below the clutch pedal? Harold FROM: richard mayor SENT: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 1:12 PM TO: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com CC: Harold Manifold; Healeys SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims The "packing pieces", or shims, go between the firewall and master cylinders. They move the master cylinders forward which then moves the pedal arms forward resulting in the pedal foot pad being lower. This way you can adjust the clutch and brake pedals to be at the same height. It does not change the stroke of the master cylinder in any way. On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:31 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: Certainly 4 are shown in my parts book, so suitable for MkIIs. Shaped and show as a fit between cylinder and bulkhead. Surely the fact there are 4 indicates that they are indeed meant as some form of adjustment shim. In my drawer of brake and clutch related ?useful stuff? there was an apparently unused brake master cylinder with an adjustable push rod. The shaft?s rod was threaded and screwed in and out of the clevis pin end and could be locked with a nut. Perhaps the cheap(er) shims replaced the more expensive cylinder? Adjusting the shaft in situ would be an absolute nightmare for anyone who wasn?t whippet thin and possessed of short arms with many joints. Simon FROM: Healeys ON BEHALF OF Harold Manifold via Healeys SENT: 09 November 2021 16:56 TO: Ken Fleming via Healeys SUBJECT: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims Who knows what the purpose of the Master Cylinder Packing Piece is? There are 4 on the brake master cylinder and none on the clutch master cylinder. As far as I can tell the packing piece would reduce the distance the push rod can travel into the bore of the master cylinder. Is there an adjustment for the brake pedal and push rod that you use these packing pieces to set? The workshop manual specifically mentions ?not forgetting to fit the packing washer first? as part of the brake master cylinder installation. Thanks? 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Hank -----------------------------------------From: gradea1 at charter.net To: "Harold Manifold" Cc: "richard mayor", "simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com", "Healeys" Sent: Tuesday November 9 2021 6:00:24PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims Guys-if the pushrod is non-adjustable, packing shims were used. If the rod is adjustable NO shims are necessary. Early cars had both masters with fixed rods. BJ8 has one of each-see pic. attached Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Harold Manifold via Healeys" To: "richard mayor", "simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Tuesday November 9 2021 3:44:05PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims I have two layers (1/8?) of packing shims between the master cylinder and the firewall and the brake pedal is about 1? below the clutch pedal. Is the whole idea to keep the brake pedal below the clutch pedal? Harold FROM: richard mayor SENT: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 1:12 PM TO: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com CC: Harold Manifold; Healeys SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims The "packing pieces", or shims, go between the firewall and master cylinders. They move the master cylinders forward which then moves the pedal arms forward resulting in the pedal foot pad being lower. This way you can adjust the clutch and brake pedals to be at the same height. It does not change the stroke of the master cylinder in any way. On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:31 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: Certainly 4 are shown in my parts book, so suitable for MkIIs. Shaped and show as a fit between cylinder and bulkhead. Surely the fact there are 4 indicates that they are indeed meant as some form of adjustment shim. In my drawer of brake and clutch related ?useful stuff? there was an apparently unused brake master cylinder with an adjustable push rod. The shaft?s rod was threaded and screwed in and out of the clevis pin end and could be locked with a nut. Perhaps the cheap(er) shims replaced the more expensive cylinder? Adjusting the shaft in situ would be an absolute nightmare for anyone who wasn?t whippet thin and possessed of short arms with many joints. Simon FROM: Healeys ON BEHALF OF Harold Manifold via Healeys SENT: 09 November 2021 16:56 TO: Ken Fleming via Healeys SUBJECT: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims Who knows what the purpose of the Master Cylinder Packing Piece is? There are 4 on the brake master cylinder and none on the clutch master cylinder. As far as I can tell the packing piece would reduce the distance the push rod can travel into the bore of the master cylinder. Is there an adjustment for the brake pedal and push rod that you use these packing pieces to set? The workshop manual specifically mentions ?not forgetting to fit the packing washer first? as part of the brake master cylinder installation. Thanks? 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No wonder I need to have a friend work under the dash! ________________ Best Regards, Al Fuller On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 2:31 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Certainly 4 are shown in my parts book, so suitable for MkIIs. Shaped and > show as a fit between cylinder and bulkhead. > > Surely the fact there are 4 indicates that they are indeed meant as some > form of adjustment shim. > > In my drawer of brake and clutch related ?useful stuff? there was an > apparently unused brake master cylinder with an adjustable push rod. The > shaft?s rod was threaded and screwed in and out of the clevis pin end and > could be locked with a nut. > > Perhaps the cheap(er) shims replaced the more expensive cylinder? > > Adjusting the shaft in situ would be an absolute nightmare for anyone who > wasn?t whippet thin and possessed of short arms with many joints. > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Harold > Manifold via Healeys > *Sent:* 09 November 2021 16:56 > *To:* Ken Fleming via Healeys > *Subject:* [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims > > > > Who knows what the purpose of the Master Cylinder Packing Piece is? There > are 4 on the brake master cylinder and none on the clutch master cylinder. > As far as I can tell the packing piece would reduce the distance the push > rod can travel into the bore of the master cylinder. Is there an adjustment > for the brake pedal and push rod that you use these packing pieces to set? > > > > The workshop manual specifically mentions ?not forgetting to fit the > packing washer first? as part of the brake master cylinder installation. > > > > > > > > Thanks? Harold > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2265 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2265 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Wed Nov 10 04:19:40 2021 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 06:19:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Water Temperature gauge Bezel Message-ID: <08c301d7d624$dac2b880$90482980$@gmail.com> Listeners: As the Davis Craig Electric Water Pump with the Electric Fan pushing are working to reduce the overheating and boil over on my BJ8, it now comes time to move the needle back 90 degrees because that is the amount the gauge is off. Someone mentioned that I do not need to send the gauge out for repair, I could simply remove the bezel. Please explain how to get it of and back on without breaking it. Regards, Bob Begani 67 BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Wed Nov 10 06:48:50 2021 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 08:48:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Water Temperature gauge Bezel In-Reply-To: <01d001d7d633$9ccbd840$d66388c0$@sympatico.ca> References: <08c301d7d624$dac2b880$90482980$@gmail.com> <01d001d7d633$9ccbd840$d66388c0$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <091b01d7d639$b2023cd0$1606b670$@gmail.com> Thanks, Mirek for the detailed information. I have printed the entire script and will keep it in my files for the opportunity to consider the DIY method you advise. One of my Healey things to do in the next 6 months. Meanwhile, I know what is the correct temperature and not worried about the gauge showing between 230 degrees and 212 degrees after settling down below 212 degrees while driving. Regards, Bob Begani From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 8:05 AM To: rfbegani at gmail.com Subject: RE: [Healeys] Water Temperature gauge Bezel Bob, I assume the later gauges are the same as the earlier ones. If you look carefully at the body of the gauge where the bezel fits over the rim, you will see three notches. It is not easy, but the bezel can be rotated so the tabs line up with the notches and the bezel can be carefully pried off. Often the bezels are stuck as they have been there so long. You can try very gently prying the tabs open a bit, but they are fragile and break easily, then the bezel is useless. Below, John recommends against bending the tabs, but I have done so successfully a few times, but I did break one once too! I asked John Marks of Vintage Restorations (retired instrument restorer) and here is his reply: 3. ?Dont bend bezel lugs up they usually break off. We have a steel rod about 5/8? by ?? with holes for the fixing studs and a bit cut to clear the cable drive. Put this in a vice, mount the instrument on the holes, and try to turn the bezel off the case using rubber gloves. Good luck!? (I think the ?rod? John refers to is probably a flat bar) The needle can be very gently pried off the spindle. I used two small jewelers screwdrivers, one on each side. It can be then gently pressed back on in the right position. I did have one needle that would slip on the spindle and I used the tiniest blob of clear silicone to hold it in place. I would not use glue as it will never come apart in the future. You have probably thought of it, but I would get a container of water, a reliable thermometer and a heating element and calibrate the instrument before replacing the bezel. Lastly, when you pull the gauge away from the facia, you will likely destroy the rubber ring that goes between the gauge and the facia. Try to save it if you can, but the rubber is usually perished. If you need to replace it, look at it carefully as on some of the instruments the rubber is a normal o-ring, but on some, I think the big instruments, the rubber has a square section and is not round. Replacement rubbers are available from Nisongers (www.nisonger.com ), and probably other sources. Good luck, Mirek From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Bob Begani via Healeys Sent: November 10, 2021 6:20 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Water Temperature gauge Bezel Listeners: As the Davis Craig Electric Water Pump with the Electric Fan pushing are working to reduce the overheating and boil over on my BJ8, it now comes time to move the needle back 90 degrees because that is the amount the gauge is off. Someone mentioned that I do not need to send the gauge out for repair, I could simply remove the bezel. Please explain how to get it of and back on without breaking it. 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URL: From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sat Nov 13 14:41:58 2021 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2021 21:41:58 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] tires Message-ID: Where are xas Michlin tires available for an AH 3000? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 13 17:38:59 2021 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2021 16:38:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003f01d7d8f0$0400f040$0c02d0c0$@sbcglobal.net> Coker Tire Company. From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kahn via Healeys Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:42 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] tires Where are xas Michlin tires available for an AH 3000? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Sat Nov 13 17:39:01 2021 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2021 16:39:01 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Longstone Classic Tyres in the UK. You get free shipping when you buy tires from them. It took less than a week to receive my tires from them. Check out their website. On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 1:42 PM Richard Kahn via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Where are xas Michlin tires available for an AH 3000? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Sat Nov 13 17:41:59 2021 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2021 16:41:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] tires In-Reply-To: <003f01d7d8f0$0400f040$0c02d0c0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <003f01d7d8f0$0400f040$0c02d0c0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Coker was more expensive than Longstone when I purchased my Michelin XASs. However, that was 2 years ago. On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 4:40 PM John Spaur via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Coker Tire Company. > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Richard > Kahn via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:42 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] tires > > > > Where are xas Michlin tires available for an AH 3000? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sat Nov 13 22:22:28 2021 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2021 21:22:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79818A68E869444894DB22C004F4E6E8@LeonardPCPC> Richard: Be aware that the XAS tires require inner tubes. If you have tubeless wheels, you still need the inner tubes. Len ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Kahn via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:41 PM Subject: [Healeys] Tires Where are Michlin XAS for an AH 3000 available? Thanks, Richard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyrik at gmail.com Sun Nov 14 03:10:28 2021 From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 05:10:28 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had the same experience buying my XAS from Longstone. Very good service and fast free shipping to US. I shipped my wheels to Hendrix and Longstone shipped the tires there, where they were mounted, balanced and shaved. I've owned XAS on several cars going back to 1972, I think they are a great tire. Rick Neville On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 7:41 PM richard mayor via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Longstone Classic Tyres in the UK. You get free shipping when you buy > tires from them. It took less than a week to receive my tires from them. > Check out their website. > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 1:42 PM Richard Kahn via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Where are xas Michlin tires available for an AH 3000? >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 14 10:37:17 2021 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 09:37:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tires In-Reply-To: <79818A68E869444894DB22C004F4E6E8@LeonardPCPC> References: <79818A68E869444894DB22C004F4E6E8@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <005501d7d97e$455cdf20$d0169d60$@sbcglobal.net> It is kind of irritating that it was not remanufactured as a tubeless tire. All they needed to do was machine groves into the mold to from mold continuous ribs integrally into the bead of the tire so that they are forced by the pressure of the air inside the tire to seal with the flanges of the metal rim of the wheel. John From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Len and/or Marge Hartnett via Healeys Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 9:22 PM To: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires Richard: Be aware that the XAS tires require inner tubes. If you have tubeless wheels, you still need the inner tubes. Len ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Kahn via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:41 PM Subject: [Healeys] Tires Where are Michlin XAS for an AH 3000 available? Thanks, Richard _____ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.teamnet/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Sun Nov 14 10:57:38 2021 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 12:57:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02ad01d7d981$1d28f130$577ad390$@gmail.com> I also had same experience with Longstone recently buying 180 HR 15 XAS TIRES plus new tubes and delivery from Longstone direct to my home. Much less that Coker and the freight was included in the price. I installed my tires on my rims at a local Club here in SWFL. Then I searched for a Tire specialist who has the machine to shave and balance the tires. Put the tires into my SUV, Healey was not running, and drove across Florida to east coast. The mechanic was fantastic in shaving and balancing the tires and marking how the tires should be mounted on the vehicle. Truest on the front others on the rear. Very little shake at 55-60 only occasionally on rough roads. Saved a lot of money using Longstone and finding a Tire garage locally to do the shaving. They are out there just ASK Mr. Google ?Tire Shaving and Tire Truing near me?. Be careful as not all have the dies to hold a wire wheel and the older shaving equipment from Amermac. Forget Tire Rack dealers they do not have the equipment. Highway Auto and Tire, Palm City Florida and others use Amermac True Tuning/Shaving equipment: https://tinyurl.com/4nhkchbb By the way, my tires rubbed the dogleg in the right rear tire on strong right turns just after installation last year. Checking the archives for those using 180 HRXAS tires it seems one or two listeners mentioned the problem. Why only a few. I believe Healeys sheet metal are not true one side to the other. Nevertheless, I do not find this rubbing a problem now with 1,000 miles on them. Maybe they have settled in? Bob Begani 67 BJ8 From: Healeys On Behalf Of HealeyRick via Healeys Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 5:10 AM To: richard mayor Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] tires I had the same experience buying my XAS from Longstone. Very good service and fast free shipping to US. I shipped my wheels to Hendrix and Longstone shipped the tires there, where they were mounted, balanced and shaved. I've owned XAS on several cars going back to 1972, I think they are a great tire. Rick Neville On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 7:41 PM richard mayor via Healeys > wrote: Longstone Classic Tyres in the UK. You get free shipping when you buy tires from them. It took less than a week to receive my tires from them. Check out their website. On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 1:42 PM Richard Kahn via Healeys > wrote: Where are xas Michlin tires available for an AH 3000? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sun Nov 14 12:04:52 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 19:04:52 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] tires Message-ID: <4ad3ac2835bfcf8eb27c0fba1c6ea7ac5075c398@webmail> BEST TIRE FOR THE HEALEY WHEEL ARCHES IS 165-15. You might want to check your sidelamp wiring to be sure they are not rubbed out. Is your speedometer accurate? Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Bob Begani via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net, boyracer466 at gmail.com Cc: Sent: Sunday November 14 2021 9:58:41AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] tires I also had same experience with Longstone recently buying 180 HR 15 XAS TIRES plus new tubes and delivery from Longstone direct to my home. Much less that Coker and the freight was included in the price. I installed my tires on my rims at a local Club here in SWFL. Then I searched for a Tire specialist who has the machine to shave and balance the tires. Put the tires into my SUV, Healey was not running, and drove across Florida to east coast. The mechanic was fantastic in shaving and balancing the tires and marking how the tires should be mounted on the vehicle. Truest on the front others on the rear. Very little shake at 55-60 only occasionally on rough roads. Saved a lot of money using Longstone and finding a Tire garage locally to do the shaving. They are out there just ASK Mr. Google ?Tire Shaving and Tire Truing near me?. Be careful as not all have the dies to hold a wire wheel and the older shaving equipment from Amermac. Forget Tire Rack dealers they do not have the equipment. Highway Auto and Tire, Palm City Florida and others use Amermac True Tuning/Shaving equipment: [1]https://tinyurl.com/4nhkchbb [2] By the way, my tires rubbed the dogleg in the right rear tire on strong right turns just after installation last year. Checking the archives for those using 180 HRXAS tires it seems one or two listeners mentioned the problem. Why only a few. I believe Healeys sheet metal are not true one side to the other. Nevertheless, I do not find this rubbing a problem now with 1,000 miles on them. Maybe they have settled in? Bob Begani 67 BJ8 FROM: Healeys ON BEHALF OF HealeyRick via Healeys SENT: Sunday, November 14, 2021 5:10 AM TO: richard mayor CC: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] tires I had the same experience buying my XAS from Longstone. Very good service and fast free shipping to US. I shipped my wheels to Hendrix and Longstone shipped the tires there, where they were mounted, balanced and shaved. I've owned XAS on several cars going back to 1972, I think they are a great tire. Rick Neville On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 7:41 PM richard mayor via Healeys wrote: Longstone Classic Tyres in the UK. You get free shipping when you buy tires from them. It took less than a week to receive my tires from them. Check out their website. 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URL: From rmemler at gmail.com Sun Nov 14 12:24:24 2021 From: rmemler at gmail.com (Robert Memler) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 14:24:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Crankshafts Message-ID: Is there any difference between a bn1 crank and a 100M crank? Under educated need to know. TIA Bob Memler -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun Nov 14 12:34:59 2021 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 14:34:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Crankshafts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No. As far as the engine was concerned the modification only included the cam, the distributor, valve springs, inlet manifold and carbs, and the cold air box. The 100S crankshaft however was different being made from EN40B and nitrided. M On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 2:24 PM Robert Memler via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Is there any difference between a bn1 crank and a 100M crank? Under > educated need to know. > TIA Bob Memler > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Sun Nov 14 12:37:10 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 11:37:10 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] tires In-Reply-To: <4ad3ac2835bfcf8eb27c0fba1c6ea7ac5075c398@webmail> References: <4ad3ac2835bfcf8eb27c0fba1c6ea7ac5075c398@webmail> Message-ID: Nate Jones Tire in SoCal. www.natejonestire.com Mike MacLean On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 11:05 AM Henry G Leach via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Best tire for the Healey wheel arches is *165-15*. You might want to > check your sidelamp wiring to be sure they are not rubbed out. Is your > speedometer accurate? Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Bob Begani via Healeys" > To: healeys at autox.team.net, boyracer466 at gmail.com > Cc: > Sent: Sunday November 14 2021 9:58:41AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] tires > > I also had same experience with Longstone recently buying 180 HR 15 XAS > TIRES plus new tubes and delivery from Longstone direct to my home. Much > less that Coker and the freight was included in the price. I installed my > tires on my rims at a local Club here in SWFL. Then I searched for a Tire > specialist who has the machine to shave and balance the tires. Put the > tires into my SUV, Healey was not running, and drove across Florida to east > coast. The mechanic was fantastic in shaving and balancing the tires and > marking how the tires should be mounted on the vehicle. Truest on the > front others on the rear. Very little shake at 55-60 only occasionally on > rough roads. Saved a lot of money using Longstone and finding a Tire > garage locally to do the shaving. They are out there just ASK Mr. Google > ?Tire Shaving and Tire Truing near me?. Be careful as not all have the dies > to hold a wire wheel and the older shaving equipment from Amermac. Forget > Tire Rack dealers they do not have the equipment. > > > > Highway Auto and Tire, Palm City Florida and others use Amermac True > Tuning/Shaving equipment: > https://tinyurl.com/4nhkchbb > > > > By the way, my tires rubbed the dogleg in the right rear tire on strong > right turns just after installation last year. Checking the archives for > those using 180 HRXAS tires it seems one or two listeners mentioned the > problem. Why only a few. I believe Healeys sheet metal are not true one > side to the other. Nevertheless, I do not find this rubbing a problem now > with 1,000 miles on them. Maybe they have settled in? > > Bob Begani > > 67 BJ8 > > > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of* > HealeyRick via Healeys > *Sent:* Sunday, November 14, 2021 5:10 AM > *To:* richard mayor > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] tires > > > > I had the same experience buying my XAS from Longstone. Very good service > and fast free shipping to US. I shipped my wheels to Hendrix and Longstone > shipped the tires there, where they were mounted, balanced and shaved. > I've owned XAS on several cars going back to 1972, I think they are a great > tire. > > > > Rick Neville > > > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 7:41 PM richard mayor via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Longstone Classic Tyres in the UK. You get free shipping when you buy > tires from them. It took less than a week to receive my tires from them. > Check out their website. > > > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 1:42 PM Richard Kahn via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Where are xas Michlin tires available for an AH 3000? > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/springer.mike51 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sun Nov 14 13:36:19 2021 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 20:36:19 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] tires In-Reply-To: References: <4ad3ac2835bfcf8eb27c0fba1c6ea7ac5075c398@webmail> Message-ID: I am currently running 185 70 15?s on a BJ8 phase 1 with no problems whatsoever. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Michael MacLean via Healeys wrote: ? Nate Jones Tire in SoCal. www.natejonestire.com Mike MacLean On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 11:05 AM Henry G Leach via Healeys > wrote: Best tire for the Healey wheel arches is 165-15. You might want to check your sidelamp wiring to be sure they are not rubbed out. Is your speedometer accurate? Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Begani via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net, boyracer466 at gmail.com Cc: Sent: Sunday November 14 2021 9:58:41AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] tires I also had same experience with Longstone recently buying 180 HR 15 XAS TIRES plus new tubes and delivery from Longstone direct to my home. Much less that Coker and the freight was included in the price. I installed my tires on my rims at a local Club here in SWFL. Then I searched for a Tire specialist who has the machine to shave and balance the tires. Put the tires into my SUV, Healey was not running, and drove across Florida to east coast. The mechanic was fantastic in shaving and balancing the tires and marking how the tires should be mounted on the vehicle. Truest on the front others on the rear. Very little shake at 55-60 only occasionally on rough roads. Saved a lot of money using Longstone and finding a Tire garage locally to do the shaving. They are out there just ASK Mr. Google ?Tire Shaving and Tire Truing near me?. Be careful as not all have the dies to hold a wire wheel and the older shaving equipment from Amermac. Forget Tire Rack dealers they do not have the equipment. Highway Auto and Tire, Palm City Florida and others use Amermac True Tuning/Shaving equipment: https://tinyurl.com/4nhkchbb By the way, my tires rubbed the dogleg in the right rear tire on strong right turns just after installation last year. Checking the archives for those using 180 HRXAS tires it seems one or two listeners mentioned the problem. Why only a few. I believe Healeys sheet metal are not true one side to the other. Nevertheless, I do not find this rubbing a problem now with 1,000 miles on them. Maybe they have settled in? Bob Begani 67 BJ8 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of HealeyRick via Healeys Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 5:10 AM To: richard mayor > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] tires I had the same experience buying my XAS from Longstone. Very good service and fast free shipping to US. I shipped my wheels to Hendrix and Longstone shipped the tires there, where they were mounted, balanced and shaved. I've owned XAS on several cars going back to 1972, I think they are a great tire. Rick Neville On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 7:41 PM richard mayor via Healeys wrote: Longstone Classic Tyres in the UK. You get free shipping when you buy tires from them. It took less than a week to receive my tires from them. Check out their website. On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 1:42 PM Richard Kahn via Healeys wrote: Where are xas Michlin tires available for an AH 3000? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/springer.mike51 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Sun Nov 14 14:15:57 2021 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 16:15:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: tires In-Reply-To: <035f01d7d99c$ad60b240$082216c0$@gmail.com> References: <4ad3ac2835bfcf8eb27c0fba1c6ea7ac5075c398@webmail> <035f01d7d99c$ad60b240$082216c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <036601d7d99c$d15ce290$7416a7b0$@gmail.com> Hank: The speedo was rebuilt by Nisonger last year and is right on the neon sign on the side of the road telling me what speed I am traveling. No rubbing anywhere inside the fenders. Love the ride on the 180?s and they fill up the wheel wells very nicely. Regards, Bob From: gradea1 at charter.net > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 2:05 PM To: 'rfbegani at gmail.com' > Cc: 'healeys at autox.team.net' >; 'boyracer466 at gmail.com' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] tires Best tire for the Healey wheel arches is 165-15. You might want to check your sidelamp wiring to be sure they are not rubbed out. Is your speedometer accurate? Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Begani via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net , boyracer466 at gmail.com Cc: Sent: Sunday November 14 2021 9:58:41AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] tires I also had same experience with Longstone recently buying 180 HR 15 XAS TIRES plus new tubes and delivery from Longstone direct to my home. Much less that Coker and the freight was included in the price. I installed my tires on my rims at a local Club here in SWFL. Then I searched for a Tire specialist who has the machine to shave and balance the tires. Put the tires into my SUV, Healey was not running, and drove across Florida to east coast. The mechanic was fantastic in shaving and balancing the tires and marking how the tires should be mounted on the vehicle. Truest on the front others on the rear. Very little shake at 55-60 only occasionally on rough roads. Saved a lot of money using Longstone and finding a Tire garage locally to do the shaving. They are out there just ASK Mr. Google ?Tire Shaving and Tire Truing near me?. Be careful as not all have the dies to hold a wire wheel and the older shaving equipment from Amermac. Forget Tire Rack dealers they do not have the equipment. Highway Auto and Tire, Palm City Florida and others use Amermac True Tuning/Shaving equipment: https://tinyurl.com/4nhkchbb By the way, my tires rubbed the dogleg in the right rear tire on strong right turns just after installation last year. Checking the archives for those using 180 HRXAS tires it seems one or two listeners mentioned the problem. Why only a few. I believe Healeys sheet metal are not true one side to the other. Nevertheless, I do not find this rubbing a problem now with 1,000 miles on them. Maybe they have settled in? Bob Begani 67 BJ8 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of HealeyRick via Healeys Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 5:10 AM To: richard mayor > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] tires I had the same experience buying my XAS from Longstone. Very good service and fast free shipping to US. I shipped my wheels to Hendrix and Longstone shipped the tires there, where they were mounted, balanced and shaved. I've owned XAS on several cars going back to 1972, I think they are a great tire. Rick Neville On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 7:41 PM richard mayor via Healeys > wrote: Longstone Classic Tyres in the UK. You get free shipping when you buy tires from them. It took less than a week to receive my tires from them. Check out their website. On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 1:42 PM Richard Kahn via Healeys > wrote: Where are xas Michlin tires available for an AH 3000? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sun Nov 14 15:08:37 2021 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 17:08:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] tires In-Reply-To: References: <4ad3ac2835bfcf8eb27c0fba1c6ea7ac5075c398@webmail> Message-ID: The Michelin XAS comes in 180HR15, not 185. I have them on my BN1 and have not experienced any tire rubbing, etc. To my eye, at least, they fill the fender aperture nicely and give the car an aggressive stance--plus you get an extra 1/4" or so ground clearance. Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 3:36 PM Richard Kahn via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I am currently running 185 70 15?s on a BJ8 phase 1 with no problems > whatsoever. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 14, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Michael MacLean via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > Nate Jones Tire in SoCal. www.natejonestire.com > > Mike MacLean > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 11:05 AM Henry G Leach via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Best tire for the Healey wheel arches is *165-15*. You might want to >> check your sidelamp wiring to be sure they are not rubbed out. Is your >> speedometer accurate? Hank >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> From: "Bob Begani via Healeys" >> To: healeys at autox.team.net, boyracer466 at gmail.com >> Cc: >> Sent: Sunday November 14 2021 9:58:41AM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] tires >> >> I also had same experience with Longstone recently buying 180 HR 15 XAS >> TIRES plus new tubes and delivery from Longstone direct to my home. Much >> less that Coker and the freight was included in the price. I installed my >> tires on my rims at a local Club here in SWFL. Then I searched for a Tire >> specialist who has the machine to shave and balance the tires. Put the >> tires into my SUV, Healey was not running, and drove across Florida to east >> coast. The mechanic was fantastic in shaving and balancing the tires and >> marking how the tires should be mounted on the vehicle. Truest on the >> front others on the rear. Very little shake at 55-60 only occasionally on >> rough roads. Saved a lot of money using Longstone and finding a Tire >> garage locally to do the shaving. They are out there just ASK Mr. Google >> ?Tire Shaving and Tire Truing near me?. Be careful as not all have the dies >> to hold a wire wheel and the older shaving equipment from Amermac. Forget >> Tire Rack dealers they do not have the equipment. >> >> >> >> Highway Auto and Tire, Palm City Florida and others use Amermac True >> Tuning/Shaving equipment: >> https://tinyurl.com/4nhkchbb >> >> >> >> By the way, my tires rubbed the dogleg in the right rear tire on strong >> right turns just after installation last year. Checking the archives for >> those using 180 HRXAS tires it seems one or two listeners mentioned the >> problem. Why only a few. I believe Healeys sheet metal are not true one >> side to the other. Nevertheless, I do not find this rubbing a problem now >> with 1,000 miles on them. Maybe they have settled in? >> >> Bob Begani >> >> 67 BJ8 >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of* >> HealeyRick via Healeys >> *Sent:* Sunday, November 14, 2021 5:10 AM >> *To:* richard mayor >> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] tires >> >> >> >> I had the same experience buying my XAS from Longstone. Very good >> service and fast free shipping to US. I shipped my wheels to Hendrix and >> Longstone shipped the tires there, where they were mounted, balanced and >> shaved. I've owned XAS on several cars going back to 1972, I think they >> are a great tire. >> >> >> >> Rick Neville >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 7:41 PM richard mayor via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Longstone Classic Tyres in the UK. You get free shipping when you buy >> tires from them. It took less than a week to receive my tires from them. >> Check out their website. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 1:42 PM Richard Kahn via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Where are xas Michlin tires available for an AH 3000? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/springer.mike51 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -- Best--Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sun Nov 14 19:39:10 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 02:39:10 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: tires Message-ID: <3699845c913c66462289f4affa5f7f19b79fbc62@webmail> Good news, all sounds proper. I think the issues I saw were with 185 and some guys even went to 195! Rubbed the insulation off the wires to the sidelights and on the 195 car speedo was off 10 MPH. Glad the Healey is tooling down the road. I do like my 165s, but different strokes..Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Bob Begani via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Sunday November 14 2021 1:19:33PM Subject: [Healeys] FW: tires Hank: The speedo was rebuilt by Nisonger last year and is right on the neon sign on the side of the road telling me what speed I am traveling. No rubbing anywhere inside the fenders. Love the ride on the 180?s and they fill up the wheel wells very nicely. Regards, Bob FROM: gradea1 at charter.net SENT: Sunday, November 14, 2021 2:05 PM TO: 'rfbegani at gmail.com' CC: 'healeys at autox.team.net' ; 'boyracer466 at gmail.com' SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] tires Best tire for the Healey wheel arches is 165-15. You might want to check your sidelamp wiring to be sure they are not rubbed out. Is your speedometer accurate? Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Begani via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net, boyracer466 at gmail.com Cc: Sent: Sunday November 14 2021 9:58:41AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] tires I also had same experience with Longstone recently buying 180 HR 15 XAS TIRES plus new tubes and delivery from Longstone direct to my home. Much less that Coker and the freight was included in the price. I installed my tires on my rims at a local Club here in SWFL. Then I searched for a Tire specialist who has the machine to shave and balance the tires. Put the tires into my SUV, Healey was not running, and drove across Florida to east coast. The mechanic was fantastic in shaving and balancing the tires and marking how the tires should be mounted on the vehicle. Truest on the front others on the rear. Very little shake at 55-60 only occasionally on rough roads. Saved a lot of money using Longstone and finding a Tire garage locally to do the shaving. They are out there just ASK Mr. Google ?Tire Shaving and Tire Truing near me?. Be careful as not all have the dies to hold a wire wheel and the older shaving equipment from Amermac. Forget Tire Rack dealers they do not have the equipment. Highway Auto and Tire, Palm City Florida and others use Amermac True Tuning/Shaving equipment: [1]https://tinyurlcom/4nhkchbb [2] By the way, my tires rubbed the dogleg in the right rear tire on strong right turns just after installation last year. Checking the archives for those using 180 HRXAS tires it seems one or two listeners mentioned the problem. Why only a few. I believe Healeys sheet metal are not true one side to the other. Nevertheless, I do not find this rubbing a problem now with 1,000 miles on them. Maybe they have settled in? Bob Begani 67 BJ8 FROM: Healeys ON BEHALF OF HealeyRick via Healeys SENT: Sunday, November 14, 2021 5:10 AM TO: richard mayor CC: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] tires I had the same experience buying my XAS from Longstone. Very good service and fast free shipping to US. I shipped my wheels to Hendrix and Longstone shipped the tires there, where they were mounted, balanced and shaved. I've owned XAS on several cars going back to 1972, I think they are a great tire. Rick Neville On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 7:41 PM richard mayor via Healeys wrote: Longstone Classic Tyres in the UK. You get free shipping when you buy tires from them. It took less than a week to receive my tires from them. Check out their website. 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Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most cars. Like wire wheels... Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare fuses, valve caps and the like.. I'll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other. Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Mon Nov 15 07:08:39 2021 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 09:08:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Springs holding the shift stick in the tower housing Message-ID: <001a01d7da2a$4a536560$defa3020$@gmail.com> Thanks to those who helped me, I confirmed that the screws were not worn and I needed a new nylon bearing. It snaped around the ball so I applied lithium grease to the end and the sides of the stick and housing installed the screws. When for a ride noting that the shifting was nice and smooth like it should be. I did all this without removing the tunnel which makes it difficult to install the springs and circle clip retainer into the tower. Any suggestions? Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 67 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Mon Nov 15 08:46:16 2021 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 10:46:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Springs holding the shift stick in the tower housing In-Reply-To: <001a01d7da2a$4a536560$defa3020$@gmail.com> References: <001a01d7da2a$4a536560$defa3020$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <25c652e1-0c2f-1b96-c9fe-5924c77d8e3d@earthlink.net> Bob, I use needle nose vice grips held vertically to install the retainer. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 11/15/21 9:08 AM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote: > > Thanks to those who helped me, I confirmed that the screws were not > worn and I needed a new nylon bearing.? It snaped around the ball so I > applied lithium grease to the end and the sides of the stick and > housing installed the screws.? When for a ride noting that the > shifting was nice and smooth like it should be.? I did all this > without removing the tunnel which makes it difficult to install the > springs and circle clip retainer into the tower.? Any suggestions? > > Regards, > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 67 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 15 09:11:27 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 08:11:27 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray In-Reply-To: <001e01d7da13$b34f2020$19ed6060$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <001e01d7da13$b34f2020$19ed6060$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: I can't say definitively, but a) I've never seen a Healey not fitted with an ash tray and b) ash trays were installed on all cars, at least for the American market, until a decade or so ago; carpet only covering the hole would have been awkward. I usually keep a few quarters for meter in mine, and sometimes a spare fuse or two. 'Cigar lighters' were, I believe, an option; the replacement harness for my BJ8 I bought came with a wire lead (brown) for a cigar lighter which, unfortunately I didn't properly insulate and it let some smoke out. On 11/15/2021 3:26 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: > > I determined, with your help, that I have an original tunnel cover for > my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change box. > > Some of you pointed out peculiarities concerning the ash tray fitting. > > I?ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to be > more or less bespoke, I?m wondering whether to keep the ash tray or > fibre glass over the square hole. > > Did all original tunnel covers come with a hole fitted for ash trays? > > And thus some had the ash tray actually fitted and some had the hole > carpeted over? > > Or what? > > Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most > cars. Like wire wheels?.. > > Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare > fuses, valve caps and the like?. > > I?ll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other. > > Simon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Nov 15 09:20:58 2021 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 11:20:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray In-Reply-To: References: <001e01d7da13$b34f2020$19ed6060$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: I know that Cocker Spaniels are born with long tails and I am sure that some owners choose not to have their dog's tails docked, but I just don't think that would look quite right. Install the ashtray. Best--Michael Oritt On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 11:11 AM Bob Spidell via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I can't say definitively, but a) I've never seen a Healey not fitted with > an ash tray and b) ash trays were installed on all cars, at least for the > American market, until a decade or so ago; carpet only covering the hole > would have been awkward. I usually keep a few quarters for meter in mine, > and sometimes a spare fuse or two. > > 'Cigar lighters' were, I believe, an option; the replacement harness for > my BJ8 I bought came with a wire lead (brown) for a cigar lighter which, > unfortunately I didn't properly insulate and it let some smoke out. > > > On 11/15/2021 3:26 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: > > I determined, with your help, that I have an original tunnel cover for my > BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change box. > > Some of you pointed out peculiarities concerning the ash tray fitting. > > I?ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to be more or > less bespoke, I?m wondering whether to keep the ash tray or fibre glass > over the square hole. > > Did all original tunnel covers come with a hole fitted for ash trays? > > And thus some had the ash tray actually fitted and some had the hole > carpeted over? > > Or what? > > Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most > cars. Like wire wheels?.. > > Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare fuses, > valve caps and the like?. > > I?ll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other. > > Simon > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -- Best--Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best--Michael Oritt On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 11:11 AM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: I can't say definitively, but a) I've never seen a Healey not fitted with an ash tray and b) ash trays were installed on all cars, at least for the American market, until a decade or so ago; carpet only covering the hole would have been awkward. I usually keep a few quarters for meter in mine, and sometimes a spare fuse or two. 'Cigar lighters' were, I believe, an option; the replacement harness for my BJ8 I bought came with a wire lead (brown) for a cigar lighter which, unfortunately I didn't properly insulate and it let some smoke out. On 11/15/2021 3:26 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: I determined, with your help, that I have an original tunnel cover for my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change box. Some of you pointed out peculiarities concerning the ash tray fitting. I?ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to be more or less bespoke, I?m wondering whether to keep the ash tray or fibre glass over the square hole. Did all original tunnel covers come with a hole fitted for ash trays? And thus some had the ash tray actually fitted and some had the hole carpeted over? Or what? Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most cars. Like wire wheels?.. Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare fuses, valve caps and the like?. I?ll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other. 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URL: From kags at shaw.ca Mon Nov 15 09:56:04 2021 From: kags at shaw.ca (kags at shaw.ca) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 08:56:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray In-Reply-To: <001e01d7da13$b34f2020$19ed6060$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <001e01d7da13$b34f2020$19ed6060$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <000a01d7da41$ae50a890$0af1f9b0$@shaw.ca> Simon - I'm pretty sure that all Healeys had ashtrays from the factory. At the changeover to the BJ8, the square hole in the center shift gearbox cover was omitted as the ashtray was now mounted into the console. In addition, a couple of studs were molded into the fiberglass for a mounting bracket for the console. If you are getting a carpet as part of a kit, the ash tray hole will likely not be there - they usually leave that to the installer. Your call as to whether or not to fill the hole. Personally I'd keep it - for small stuff like 'fuses and valve caps'. Earl Kagna Victoria BC BJ8, BT7 tri-carb - (center shift) From: Healeys On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 3:27 AM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray I determined, with your help, that I have an original tunnel cover for my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change box. Some of you pointed out peculiarities concerning the ash tray fitting. I'll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to be more or less bespoke, I'm wondering whether to keep the ash tray or fibre glass over the square hole. Did all original tunnel covers come with a hole fitted for ash trays? And thus some had the ash tray actually fitted and some had the hole carpeted over? Or what? Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most cars. Like wire wheels... Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare fuses, valve caps and the like.. I'll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other. 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John From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Len and/or Marge Hartnett via Healeys Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 9:22 PM To: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires Richard: Be aware that the XAS tires require inner tubes. If you have tubeless wheels, you still need the inner tubes. Len ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Kahn via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:41 PM Subject: [Healeys] Tires Where are Michlin XAS for an AH 3000 available? 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John From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Len and/or Marge Hartnett via Healeys Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 9:22 PM To: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires Richard: Be aware that the XAS tires require inner tubes. If you have tubeless wheels, you still need the inner tubes. Len ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Kahn via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:41 PM Subject: [Healeys] Tires Where are Michlin XAS for an AH 3000 available? Thanks, Richard ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.teamnet/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Mon Nov 15 11:03:51 2021 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 18:03:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Tires In-Reply-To: References: <79818A68E869444894DB22C004F4E6E8@LeonardPCPC> <005501d7d97e$455cdf20$d0169d60$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Usually not for exported products from the UK, But possibly import duties and maybe excise tax of the country of import Regards, Richard C BN7 440 On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:59, Richard Kahn via Healeys wrote: ? Do we pay VAT from the UK? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Richard Kahn wrote: ? Are we subjected to VAT from the UK? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2021, at 9:37 AM, John Spaur via Healeys wrote: ? It is kind of irritating that it was not remanufactured as a tubeless tire. All they needed to do was machine groves into the mold to from mold continuous ribs integrally into the bead of the tire so that they are forced by the pressure of the air inside the tire to seal with the flanges of the metal rim of the wheel. John From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Len and/or Marge Hartnett via Healeys Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 9:22 PM To: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires Richard: Be aware that the XAS tires require inner tubes. If you have tubeless wheels, you still need the inner tubes. Len ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Kahn via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:41 PM Subject: [Healeys] Tires Where are Michlin XAS for an AH 3000 available? Thanks, Richard ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.teamnet/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bsahemails at gmail.com Mon Nov 15 11:13:54 2021 From: bsahemails at gmail.com (bsahemails at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:13:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Springs holding the shift stick in the tower housing In-Reply-To: <001a01d7da2a$4a536560$defa3020$@gmail.com> References: <001a01d7da2a$4a536560$defa3020$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <02ed01d7da4c$8d0b0bc0$a7212340$@gmail.com> Bob, I had the same difficulty installing the spring, washer, and circlip last month. After some thought, I made a very simple and inexpensive tool that was VERY effective. Take a 1 ? inch PVC pipe, cut around 10 inches long With a grinder, bevel one end. With a grinder, cut two notches in the other end. Tool is complete! The retainer washer will just fit on the beveled and of the PVC pipe but not slip onto the pipe. The circlip will fit around the PVC pipe. Place the spring and washer over the shift stick and onto the tower. Place the PVC pipe over the shift stick and into the washer. Place the circlip over the PVC pipe. Now for the magic. With the doors open, take a string or cord, wrap under the car and over the PVC pipe (laying it into the two cut notches). Pull tight and tie the ends together. Then with a tourniquet knot (screwdriver in picture), tighten the cord. This will push down AND HOLD the PVC pipe/washer/spring. Use needle nose plyers to insert circlip. See attached pictures My description probably sounds more complicated than it is. Less than 5 minutes to make the tool, and less than 5 minutes to assemble everything. Good luck. Any questions, just ask. Bob Simmen From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Begani via Healeys Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 9:09 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Springs holding the shift stick in the tower housing Thanks to those who helped me, I confirmed that the screws were not worn and I needed a new nylon bearing. It snaped around the ball so I applied lithium grease to the end and the sides of the stick and housing installed the screws. When for a ride noting that the shifting was nice and smooth like it should be. I did all this without removing the tunnel which makes it difficult to install the springs and circle clip retainer into the tower. Any suggestions? Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 67 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Gear shift clip tool - PVC pipe.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3208871 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Richard Collins via Healeys Sent: 15 November 2021 18:04 To: Richard Kahn Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires Usually not for exported products from the UK, But possibly import duties and maybe excise tax of the country of import Regards, Richard C BN7 440 On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:59, Richard Kahn via Healeys > wrote: ? Do we pay VAT from the UK? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Richard Kahn > wrote: ? Are we subjected to VAT from the UK? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2021, at 9:37 AM, John Spaur via Healeys > wrote: ? It is kind of irritating that it was not remanufactured as a tubeless tire. All they needed to do was machine groves into the mold to from mold continuous ribs integrally into the bead of the tire so that they are forced by the pressure of the air inside the tire to seal with the flanges of the metal rim of the wheel. John From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Len and/or Marge Hartnett via Healeys Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 9:22 PM To: AH Mail List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires Richard: Be aware that the XAS tires require inner tubes. If you have tubeless wheels, you still need the inner tubes. Len ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Kahn via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:41 PM Subject: [Healeys] Tires Where are Michlin XAS for an AH 3000 available? 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Pre-production Healeys used that spot for the overdrive switch, as seen on this prototype interior. Now-a-days its mostly a coin holder thanks to current smoking laws. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Earl Kagna via Healeys" To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Monday November 15 2021 9:06:21AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray Simon ? I?m pretty sure that all Healeys had ashtrays from the factory. At the changeover to the BJ8, the square hole in the center shift gearbox cover was omitted as the ashtray was now mounted into the console. In addition, a couple of studs were molded into the fiberglass for a mounting bracket for the console. If you are getting a carpet as part of a kit, the ash tray hole will likely not be there ? they usually leave that to the installer. Your call as to whether or not to fill the hole. Personally I?d keep it ? for small stuff like ?fuses and valve caps?. Earl Kagna Victoria BC BJ8, BT7 tri-carb ? (center shift) FROM: Healeys ON BEHALF OF Simon Lachlan via Healeys SENT: Monday, November 15, 2021 3:27 AM TO: 'Healeys' SUBJECT: [Healeys] Ash Tray I determined, with your help, that I have an original tunnel cover for my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change box. Some of you pointed out peculiarities concerning the ash tray fitting. I?ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to be more or less bespoke, I?m wondering whether to keep the ash tray or fibre glass over the square hole. Did all original tunnel covers come with a hole fitted for ash trays? And thus some had the ash tray actually fitted and some had the hole carpeted over? Or what? Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most cars. Like wire wheels?.. Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare fuses, valve caps and the like?. I?ll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other. 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Mike On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 6:14 AM > wrote: Yes Mike, that is the Amermac Truing machine which comes to the car?s tires. To everyone else, those machines and the garages near you are there to Stop the Shake. Bob Begani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Mon Nov 15 12:55:46 2021 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 14:55:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Springs holding the shift stick in the tower housing In-Reply-To: <02ed01d7da4c$8d0b0bc0$a7212340$@gmail.com> References: <001a01d7da2a$4a536560$defa3020$@gmail.com> <02ed01d7da4c$8d0b0bc0$a7212340$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <019201d7da5a$c85b56e0$591204a0$@gmail.com> Bob, thanks, on my way to the hardware store fir the pipe. Will let you know how it goes. Love this Group. Bob From: bsahemails at gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 1:14 PM To: rfbegani at gmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Springs holding the shift stick in the tower housing Bob, I had the same difficulty installing the spring, washer, and circlip last month. After some thought, I made a very simple and inexpensive tool that was VERY effective. Take a 1 ? inch PVC pipe, cut around 10 inches long With a grinder, bevel one end. With a grinder, cut two notches in the other end. Tool is complete! The retainer washer will just fit on the beveled and of the PVC pipe but not slip onto the pipe. The circlip will fit around the PVC pipe. Place the spring and washer over the shift stick and onto the tower. Place the PVC pipe over the shift stick and into the washer. Place the circlip over the PVC pipe. Now for the magic. With the doors open, take a string or cord, wrap under the car and over the PVC pipe (laying it into the two cut notches). Pull tight and tie the ends together. Then with a tourniquet knot (screwdriver in picture), tighten the cord. This will push down AND HOLD the PVC pipe/washer/spring. Use needle nose plyers to insert circlip. See attached pictures My description probably sounds more complicated than it is. Less than 5 minutes to make the tool, and less than 5 minutes to assemble everything. Good luck. Any questions, just ask. Bob Simmen From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Bob Begani via Healeys Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 9:09 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Springs holding the shift stick in the tower housing Thanks to those who helped me, I confirmed that the screws were not worn and I needed a new nylon bearing. It snaped around the ball so I applied lithium grease to the end and the sides of the stick and housing installed the screws. When for a ride noting that the shifting was nice and smooth like it should be. I did all this without removing the tunnel which makes it difficult to install the springs and circle clip retainer into the tower. Any suggestions? Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 67 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon Nov 15 15:21:48 2021 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:21:48 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b201d7da6f$3296fd20$97c4f760$@tpg.com.au> G?day The standard fitting to Austin-Healeys is always interesting. As can be seen from the attached there is no ashtray fitted to the Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1. The gearbox tunnel consists of five separate steel and aluminium pieces and when it was cobbled up by the DHMC they made no provision for it. Conversely with our Healey Saloon there are three ashtrays, two for the rear seat passengers and one for the front, but thankfully there are no cupholders. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Henry G Leach via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2021 6:16 AM To: 'kags at shaw.ca' Cc: 'Healey List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray The ash tray opening for replacement materials is arbitrary, but all Healeys starting with the early 100s (1953 with 2pc. tunnel) (BJ carpet not open) had the opening there-mostly for pipe smokers to chill their ash. (That's ash!) Pre-production Healeys used that spot for the overdrive switch, as seen on this prototype interior. Now-a-days its mostly a coin holder thanks to current smoking laws. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Earl Kagna via Healeys" To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Monday November 15 2021 9:06:21AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray Simon ? I?m pretty sure that all Healeys had ashtrays from the factory. At the changeover to the BJ8, the square hole in the center shift gearbox cover was omitted as the ashtray was now mounted into the console. In addition, a couple of studs were molded into the fiberglass for a mounting bracket for the console. If you are getting a carpet as part of a kit, the ash tray hole will likely not be there ? they usually leave that to the installer. Your call as to whether or not to fill the hole. Personally I?d keep it ? for small stuff like ?fuses and valve caps?. Earl Kagna Victoria BC BJ8, BT7 tri-carb ? (center shift) From: Healeys On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 3:27 AM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray I determined, with your help, that I have an original tunnel cover for my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change box. Some of you pointed out peculiarities concerning the ash tray fitting. I?ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to be more or less bespoke, I?m wondering whether to keep the ash tray or fibre glass over the square hole. Did all original tunnel covers come with a hole fitted for ash trays? And thus some had the ash tray actually fitted and some had the hole carpeted over? Or what? Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most cars. Like wire wheels?.. Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare fuses, valve caps and the like?. I?ll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other. Simon Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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While not perfect the guidelines are very reliable.Perry? -----Original Message----- From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Mon, Nov 15, 2021 6:26 am Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray I determined, with your help, that I have an original tunnel cover for my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change box.Some of you pointed out peculiarities concerning the ash tray fitting. I?ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to be more or less bespoke, I?m wondering whether to keep the ash tray or fibre glass over the square hole.Did all original tunnel covers come with a hole fitted for ash trays? And thus some had the ash tray actually fitted and some had the hole carpeted over?Or what?Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most cars. Like wire wheels?..Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare fuses, valve caps and the like?.I?ll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other.Simon ??? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jstmorris at yahoo.com Mon Nov 15 18:22:14 2021 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 01:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] British Fastener Decoder booklet In-Reply-To: <911D9EB7-F6C1-4313-9614-A60F65E7AA92@verizon.net> References: <911D9EB7-F6C1-4313-9614-A60F65E7AA92.ref@verizon.net> <911D9EB7-F6C1-4313-9614-A60F65E7AA92@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1350647483.2099869.1637025734951@mail.yahoo.com> And here is a copy of a BMC Bulletin I scanned about 20 years ago.? I believe it is posted on a couple of websites; I will have to check. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives On Monday, November 15, 2021, 07:33:27 p.m. EST, George Marinos via Healeys wrote: Greetings everyone. ?Years ago a friend from the Michigan Chapter of the AHCA wrote an article titled, ?Nuts about Bolts. ?The attached booklet is a copy of what was sent to the dealerships in 1964 to aid in ordering replacement part. ?Let me know what you think.George MarinosGlen Rock, NJ Sent from my iPad_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jstmorris at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I believe it is posted on a couple of websites; I will have to check. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives On Monday, November 15, 2021, 07:33:27 p.m. EST, George Marinos via Healeys wrote: Greetings everyone. ?Years ago a friend from the Michigan Chapter of the AHCA wrote an article titled, ?Nuts about Bolts. ?The attached booklet is a copy of what was sent to the dealerships in 1964 to aid in ordering replacement part. ?Let me know what you think.George MarinosGlen Rock, NJ Sent from my iPad_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jstmorris at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Mon Nov 15 20:48:51 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 03:48:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray Message-ID: <21c5512d98b32db2983d4fbf30cd34d4e80091b3@webmail> Patrick-such a handsome tunnel cover and bulkhead-there must be at least two cylinders in there! Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Monday November 15 2021 2:27:42PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray G?day The standard fitting to Austin-Healeys is always interesting. As can be seen from the attached there is no ashtray fitted to the Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1. The gearbox tunnel consists of five separate steel and aluminium pieces and when it was cobbled up by the DHMC they made no provision for it. Conversely with our Healey Saloon there are three ashtrays, two for the rear seat passengers and one for the front, but thankfully there are no cupholders. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia FROM: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] ON BEHALF OF Henry G Leach via Healeys SENT: Tuesday, 16 November 2021 6:16 AM TO: 'kags at shaw.ca' CC: 'Healey List' SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray The ash tray opening for replacement materials is arbitrary, but all Healeys starting with the early 100s (1953 with 2pc. tunnel) (BJ carpet not open) had the opening there-mostly for pipe smokers to chill their ash. (That's ash!) Pre-production Healeys used that spot for the overdrive switch, as seen on this prototype interior. Now-a-days its mostly a coin holder thanks to current smoking laws. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Earl Kagna via Healeys" To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Monday November 15 2021 9:06:21AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray Simon ? I?m pretty sure that all Healeys had ashtrays from the factory. At the changeover to the BJ8, the square hole in the center shift gearbox cover was omitted as the ashtray was now mounted into the console. In addition, a couple of studs were molded into the fiberglass for a mounting bracket for the console. If you are getting a carpet as part of a kit, the ash tray hole will likely not be there ? they usually leave that to the installer. Your call as to whether or not to fill the hole. Personally I?d keep it ? for small stuff like ?fuses and valve caps?. Earl Kagna Victoria BC BJ8, BT7 tri-carb ? (center shift) FROM: Healeys ON BEHALF OF Simon Lachlan via Healeys SENT: Monday, November 15, 2021 3:27 AM TO: 'Healeys' SUBJECT: [Healeys] Ash Tray I determined, with your help, that I have an original tunnel cover for my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change box. Some of you pointed out peculiarities concerning the ash tray fitting. I?ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to be more or less bespoke, I?m wondering whether to keep the ash tray or fibre glass over the square hole. Did all original tunnel covers come with a hole fitted for ash trays? And thus some had the ash tray actually fitted and some had the hole carpeted over? Or what? Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most cars. Like wire wheels?.. Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare fuses, valve caps and the like?. I?ll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other. Simon [1] Virus-free. www.avast.com [2] Links: ------ [1] https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient [2] https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon Nov 15 21:07:09 2021 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 15:07:09 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray In-Reply-To: <21c5512d98b32db2983d4fbf30cd34d4e80091b3@webmail> References: <21c5512d98b32db2983d4fbf30cd34d4e80091b3@webmail> Message-ID: <013d01d7da9f$6edea820$4c9bf860$@tpg.com.au> Hello The removable bulkhead is a masterpiece of sheet aluminium joinery and the rear of the engine is a half inch short of the curved firewall. Having met Roger Menadue I can imagine him getting stuck into the firewall with a big hammer to make the engine fit. Best wishes Patrick From: gradea1 at charter.net [mailto:gradea1 at charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2021 2:49 PM To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' Cc: 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray Patrick-such a handsome tunnel cover and bulkhead-there must be at least two cylinders in there! Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Monday November 15 2021 2:27:42PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray G?day The standard fitting to Austin-Healeys is always interesting. As can be seen from the attached there is no ashtray fitted to the Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1. The gearbox tunnel consists of five separate steel and aluminium pieces and when it was cobbled up by the DHMC they made no provision for it. Conversely with our Healey Saloon there are three ashtrays, two for the rear seat passengers and one for the front, but thankfully there are no cupholders. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Henry G Leach via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2021 6:16 AM To: 'kags at shaw.ca' Cc: 'Healey List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray The ash tray opening for replacement materials is arbitrary, but all Healeys starting with the early 100s (1953 with 2pc. tunnel) (BJ carpet not open) had the opening there-mostly for pipe smokers to chill their ash. (That's ash!) Pre-production Healeys used that spot for the overdrive switch, as seen on this prototype interior. Now-a-days its mostly a coin holder thanks to current smoking laws. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Earl Kagna via Healeys" To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Monday November 15 2021 9:06:21AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray Simon ? I?m pretty sure that all Healeys had ashtrays from the factory. At the changeover to the BJ8, the square hole in the center shift gearbox cover was omitted as the ashtray was now mounted into the console. In addition, a couple of studs were molded into the fiberglass for a mounting bracket for the console. If you are getting a carpet as part of a kit, the ash tray hole will likely not be there ? they usually leave that to the installer. Your call as to whether or not to fill the hole. Personally I?d keep it ? for small stuff like ?fuses and valve caps?. Earl Kagna Victoria BC BJ8, BT7 tri-carb ? (center shift) From: Healeys On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 3:27 AM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray I determined, with your help, that I have an original tunnel cover for my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change box. Some of you pointed out peculiarities concerning the ash tray fitting. I?ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to be more or less bespoke, I?m wondering whether to keep the ash tray or fibre glass over the square hole. Did all original tunnel covers come with a hole fitted for ash trays? And thus some had the ash tray actually fitted and some had the hole carpeted over? Or what? Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most cars. Like wire wheels?.. Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare fuses, valve caps and the like?. I?ll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other. Simon icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Tue Nov 16 06:06:13 2021 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 08:06:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Spam In-Reply-To: <681479845.526043.1637002496825@mail.yahoo.com> References: <681479845.526043.1637002496825.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <681479845.526043.1637002496825@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <019301d7daea$bc2235c0$3466a140$@gmail.com> John etal : Regarding spam, several years ago my wife and I each created 2 email addresses so we can signup for something thinking our address will be sold. I have had 81 spam messages in one and 25 in the other in the past 48 hours. My regular email address is has only 5 spam messages. In all addresses, I ask Outlook to use the high filter not the nuclear. I did notice a few years ago that there was a great increase in spam message when I investigated mortgage rates at Quicken and Rocket. Could it be? At any rate, I just sent 81 spam messages to TRASH. Regards, Bob Begani From: Healeys On Behalf Of John Sims via Healeys Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 1:55 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Spam It?s almost 2pm and I?ve already received SIXTY EIGHT spam messages. Will this nonsense every stop? John Sims healey6.com Matawan,NJ Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 16 06:58:36 2021 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:58:36 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Spam In-Reply-To: <019301d7daea$bc2235c0$3466a140$@gmail.com> References: <681479845.526043.1637002496825.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <681479845.526043.1637002496825@mail.yahoo.com> <019301d7daea$bc2235c0$3466a140$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ditto here. Interesting that my Iphone gets and captures different spam messages than my PC using the same eMail buckets. I will say my Verizon call filter app is doing a credible job diverting spam calls to the junk pile. I wonder how the cave men handled it or the Indians with their smoke signals. ( sorry, I meant to say cave persons and Native Americans) Regards, Richard C On Nov 16, 2021, at 07:06, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote: ? John etal : Regarding spam, several years ago my wife and I each created 2 email addresses so we can signup for something thinking our address will be sold. I have had 81 spam messages in one and 25 in the other in the past 48 hours. My regular email address is has only 5 spam messages. In all addresses, I ask Outlook to use the high filter not the nuclear. I did notice a few years ago that there was a great increase in spam message when I investigated mortgage rates at Quicken and Rocket. Could it be? At any rate, I just sent 81 spam messages to TRASH. Regards, Bob Begani From: Healeys On Behalf Of John Sims via Healeys Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 1:55 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Spam It?s almost 2pm and I?ve already received SIXTY EIGHT spam messages. Will this nonsense every stop? John Sims healey6.com Matawan,NJ Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Nov 16 08:40:40 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 07:40:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Spam In-Reply-To: References: <681479845.526043.1637002496825.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <681479845.526043.1637002496825@mail.yahoo.com> <019301d7daea$bc2235c0$3466a140$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <673ad336-f9f8-8fd7-8bda-64059102e1d8@comcast.net> Our email addresses, among other personal data, has been pilfered from the many data breaches that have occurred over the past few years (some from companies whose job it is to keep our data secured). These have been collected by some and sold, usually on the 'dark web,' as huge lists that can be used to spam thousands, if not millions of users. I've had my info stolen stolen several times; often the idiot companies that have been breached will offer some sort of service to monitor your private data; they'll report "Yeah, your email/birthday/SS# etc. has been found somewhere you don't want it to be." Not much you can do about it; we all use our email addresses in account profiles--sometimes, it's all you can use for a 'username'--and, even if you get a new email address it's a major hassle to change all your accounts (hackers try to do this) and the new account will be compromised eventually. Telephone spamming is even easier: they're sequences of numbers, and autodialers can just rotor through them. I kept my Bay Area phone#, and I only know a couple people up there now and they're in my contacts list, so I know if I get an unknown caller from that area code it's almost certainly spam. Technology giveth, and technology taketh away. On 11/16/2021 5:58 AM, Richard Collins via Healeys wrote: > Ditto here. Interesting that my Iphone gets and captures different > spam messages than my PC using the same eMail buckets. I will say my > Verizon call filter app is doing a credible job diverting spam calls > to the junk pile. > I wonder how the cave men handled it or the Indians with their smoke > signals. ( sorry, I meant to say cave persons and Native Americans) > > Regards, > Richard C > > >> On Nov 16, 2021, at 07:06, Bob Begani via Healeys >> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> John etal : >> >> Regarding spam, several years ago my wife and I each created 2 email >> addresses so we can signup for something thinking our address will be >> sold.? I have had 81 spam messages in one and 25 in the other in the >> past 48 hours.? My regular email address is has only 5 spam >> messages.? In all addresses, I ask Outlook to use the high filter not >> the nuclear.? I did notice a few years ago that there was a great >> increase in spam message when I investigated mortgage rates at >> Quicken and Rocket.? Could it be? >> >> At any rate, I just sent 81 spam messages to TRASH. >> >> Regards, >> >> Bob Begani >> >> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *John >> Sims via Healeys >> *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2021 1:55 PM >> *To:* Healeys >> *Subject:* [Healeys] Spam >> >> It?s almost 2pm and I?ve already received SIXTY EIGHT spam messages. >> Will this nonsense every stop? >> >> John Sims >> >> healey6.com >> >> Matawan,NJ >> >> >> >> >> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Tue Nov 16 12:08:47 2021 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 11:08:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Spam In-Reply-To: <681479845.526043.1637002496825@mail.yahoo.com> References: <681479845.526043.1637002496825.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <681479845.526043.1637002496825@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <04B8137F4CEA49199C782365E98D31FF@LeonardPCPC> John: My problem is trying to block them. Earthlink catches a few and alerts me. It also provides the option to block the sender or block the domain. If I try one and receive a similar e-mail, I try the other. In some cases they keep on coming. All they need to do is change one letter or one special character in their address. Just a few of the serious contenders are contact at ..., from at ..., info at ..., newslwtter.agentprov..., office at .. . . (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: John Sims via Healeys To: Healeys Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 10:54 AM Subject: [Healeys] Spam It?s almost 2pm and I?ve already received SIXTY EIGHT spam messages. Will this nonsense every stop? John Sims healey6.com Matawan,NJ Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Tue Nov 16 12:11:53 2021 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:11:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Shifter install In-Reply-To: <05D8D265-6DF3-4044-9A1D-8491F8B3143C@gmail.com> References: <05D8D265-6DF3-4044-9A1D-8491F8B3143C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <028301d7db1d$d101a740$7304f5c0$@gmail.com> Dear Bob etal: Certainly the tool Bob created is the way to go. Except in my case, it would not work the first time because my washer was bent and was out of round which allow the spring to sneak in around the washer and not allow the tool to push down enough to allow the circle clip to engage. The second time around I had used my vise to flatten out the washer although it was still out of round a little. In addition, I reviewed the way the washer sat on the bevel and found the angle of the bevel on the tool was too long so the spring could move around. I cut the top off the bevel so there was more of a flat section to hold the wash better which keep the tool upright and the spring went down further. Also, I had problems with the string I used in the first trial. Was too small diameter. You really need a heavier rope because once the twisting begins it gets very tight beehive and can break at the twist. See the attached pictures showing the broken piece, fortunately, it broke in the twist rope and did not come apart until I took it apart. Nevertheless, the third time worked with a lot of help from wiggling the tool to help the spring and washer set and a screwdriver to allow the washer to press down further so the circle clip would slip into the groves. Next time I will replace the washer and it should take only one hour, hopefully. Thanks, Bob, for the idea. Bob Begani -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Price Lindsay Cell: 630-841-6300 Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Nov 16 13:48:25 2021 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 15:48:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] X Bracing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <027801d7db2b$4dcf31e0$e96d95a0$@rr.com> Price, the X-brace stiffens the front of the chassis in torsion and helps to dampen vibrations. Without it, you may develop cracks, especially in the front aluminum shroud. Steve Byers BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of R. Lindsay via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:25 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] X Bracing What are the ramifications of removing the X bracing from the front of my BJ8? Can it be moved to allow for an electric fan? Price Lindsay Cell: 630-841-6300 Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sbyers at ec.rr.com From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Tue Nov 16 14:15:31 2021 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 08:15:31 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] X Bracing In-Reply-To: <027801d7db2b$4dcf31e0$e96d95a0$@rr.com> References: <027801d7db2b$4dcf31e0$e96d95a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <000001d7db2f$19dda160$4d98e420$@tpg.com.au> Hello I certainly wouldn't remove it either. However having said that attached are a few pics of BN3/1 taken during the late 1970s and you can see how the DHMC altered the front to make everything fit. They removed the X bracing and added in two large uprights. In between that and very tightly is the radiator which incidentally is the same as our Healey Duncan, but pressurised. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8Healeys via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 7:48 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] X Bracing Price, the X-brace stiffens the front of the chassis in torsion and helps to dampen vibrations. Without it, you may develop cracks, especially in the front aluminum shroud. Steve Byers BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of R. Lindsay via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:25 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] X Bracing What are the ramifications of removing the X bracing from the front of my BJ8? Can it be moved to allow for an electric fan? Price Lindsay Cell: 630-841-6300 Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sbyers at ec.rr.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So do you think the radiator mounted solid between the two uprights effectively replaces the two X braces to counteract the shear forces?Ray On Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 01:16:56 PM PST, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: Hello I certainly wouldn't remove it either. However having said that attached are a few pics of BN3/1 taken during the late 1970s and you can see how the DHMC altered the front to make everything fit. They removed the X bracing and added in two large uprights. In between that and very tightly is the radiator which incidentally is the same as our Healey Duncan, but pressurised. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8Healeys via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 7:48 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] X Bracing Price, the X-brace stiffens the front of the chassis in torsion and helps to dampen vibrations.? Without it, you may develop cracks, especially in the front aluminum shroud. Steve Byers BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC? USA -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of R. Lindsay via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:25 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] X Bracing What are the ramifications of removing the X bracing from the front of my BJ8?? Can it be moved to allow for an electric fan? Price Lindsay Cell: 630-841-6300 Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sbyers at ec.rr.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It really just makes it all a pain in the bum to remove the radiator and that has to be done through the grille opening. There has been no cracks in the shroud, except for the time I ran into a dog. The front of the radiator is also under the front shroud. I have since added a curved piece of steel that joins the two uprights and above the radiator to support the front of the shroud opening. Best wishes Patrick Quinn From: Ray Juncal [mailto:healeyray at yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 8:33 AM To: 'BJ8Healeys'; healeys at autox.team.net; Patrick & Caroline Quinn Subject: Re: [Healeys] X Bracing Patrick, Very cool to see the hand built modifications to the frame and sub structure. So do you think the radiator mounted solid between the two uprights effectively replaces the two X braces to counteract the shear forces? Ray On Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 01:16:56 PM PST, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: Hello I certainly wouldn't remove it either. However having said that attached are a few pics of BN3/1 taken during the late 1970s and you can see how the DHMC altered the front to make everything fit. They removed the X bracing and added in two large uprights. In between that and very tightly is the radiator which incidentally is the same as our Healey Duncan, but pressurised. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8Healeys via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 7:48 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] X Bracing Price, the X-brace stiffens the front of the chassis in torsion and helps to dampen vibrations. Without it, you may develop cracks, especially in the front aluminum shroud. Steve Byers BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of R. Lindsay via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:25 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] X Bracing What are the ramifications of removing the X bracing from the front of my BJ8? Can it be moved to allow for an electric fan? Price Lindsay Cell: 630-841-6300 Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sbyers at ec.rr.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 16 15:25:56 2021 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 22:25:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100 front fender nuts Message-ID: I have been following Geoff Chrysler's BN1 restoration online. I had noticed in one of his recent pictures that there are caged floating nuts where the windshield forward foot attaches to the fender, and not the typical fender clips. The cages are spot welded to the inner fender lip. When tearing down my BN2 I found these caged floating nuts pop riveted in, and I assumed they were wrong (partially correct). It seems to me now that the only thing incorrect is that they were pop riveted in, as I found the spot welded floating cages on my BN1 as well (and just like Geoff's spectacular car). So I plan to spot weld those back in. Interesting though while looking at my front BN1 fenders I found the last/rear fender attaching hole has a nut welded directly to the inner fender, again rather than the typical fender clip. This one is not in a floating cage. Does this seem correct? I can't find any evidence that my BN2 had welded nuts on that last hole, but it's possible. TY, Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From llennep at verizon.net Tue Nov 16 15:40:55 2021 From: llennep at verizon.net (llennep at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 22:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 90os GM, not Healey References: <641295179.2482057.1637102455589.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <641295179.2482057.1637102455589@mail.yahoo.com> Recently I replaced the turn signal stalk and attached wiring on my hotrod. ?I think it came from a 90s into the 2000s GM product. ?Incorporates the cruise controls and wiper controls. ?Lettering is a little faded but readable. ?Orig and available to anyone free but for only $10 to cover S&H. ?First come, first served. ?Let me know.Keith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 050.rpl at gmail.com Tue Nov 16 15:49:44 2021 From: 050.rpl at gmail.com (R. Lindsay) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 17:49:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] X Braces Message-ID: <70A19460-920F-49E8-9676-5E382204F524@gmail.com> I forgot to mention (my fault for which I apologize) that I have added ac to my BJ8 and need to make room for the condenser and the fan behind the bracing. I think I can cut the bracing and push it forward to make room or I can remove and not replace it if it would not impact the cars performance. That?s my question. Thank you for your reply. Price Lindsay Cell: 630-841-6300 Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone From manifold at telus.net Tue Nov 16 16:46:30 2021 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 15:46:30 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] X Braces In-Reply-To: <70A19460-920F-49E8-9676-5E382204F524@gmail.com> References: <70A19460-920F-49E8-9676-5E382204F524@gmail.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 050.rpl at gmail.com Tue Nov 16 17:03:21 2021 From: 050.rpl at gmail.com (R. Lindsay) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:03:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] X Braces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07D07EB9-51BA-43AF-8335-BF36B2236D99@gmail.com> Thank you Harold. Good to know. Price Lindsay Cell: 630-841-6300 Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2021, at 6:46 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: > > ? > Price, > > If the cross bracing is removed then the radiator will be subject to racking which could lead to the tubes cracking at the radiator header plate. There is little else other than the two cross braces to keep the front of the car plumb. > > Harold > > From: R. Lindsay via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:50 PM > To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] X Braces > > I forgot to mention (my fault for which I apologize) that I have added ac to my BJ8 and need to make room for the condenser and the fan behind the bracing. I think I can cut the bracing and push it forward to make room or I can remove and not replace it if it would not impact the cars performance. That?s my question. > > Thank you for your reply. > > Price Lindsay > > Cell: 630-841-6300 > Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Nov 16 17:56:55 2021 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 00:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] X Bracing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79853799.946771.1637110615481@mail.yahoo.com> Price?Why not just modify the x brace connections to the body to allow all the bits you need in that space to fit.? In stock trim there should be about 2-1/2 to 3 inches behind the X brace to the rad core and more in front of the X brace to the grille and steering bits. With an air conditioning condenser stuffed in there too you will need a high CFM fan to move enough air to keep things cool. Proper shrouding and air deflectors can help a lot too.?Perry -----Original Message----- From: R. Lindsay via Healeys To: Healey List Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2021 2:25 pm Subject: [Healeys] X Bracing What are the ramifications of removing the X bracing from the front of my BJ8?? Can it be moved to allow for an electric fan? Price Lindsay Cell: 630-841-6300 Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyray at yahoo.com Tue Nov 16 21:08:02 2021 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 04:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] X Bracing In-Reply-To: <79853799.946771.1637110615481@mail.yahoo.com> References: <79853799.946771.1637110615481@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1525718958.2556225.1637122082886@mail.yahoo.com> Nice photos and yes you are a lucky guy living the life of Riley. On Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 04:57:35 PM PST, healeyguy--- via Healeys wrote: Price?Why not just modify the x brace connections to the body to allow all the bits you need in that space to fit.? In stock trim there should be about 2-1/2 to 3 inches behind the X brace to the rad core and more in front of the X brace to the grille and steering bits. With an air conditioning condenser stuffed in there too you will need a high CFM fan to move enough air to keep things cool. Proper shrouding and air deflectors can help a lot too.?Perry -----Original Message----- From: R. Lindsay via Healeys To: Healey List Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2021 2:25 pm Subject: [Healeys] X Bracing What are the ramifications of removing the X bracing from the front of my BJ8?? Can it be moved to allow for an electric fan? 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At the top it was attached to the horizontal wood piece held there with two countersunk wood screws. At the bottom, it entered and turned to the inside and was secured with two rivets to the door bottom frame piece. ? Jean ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/larry at patersondesign.ca ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 3FDAD4BC8E0548A5B41761B2B3966F86.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 47511 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think that without the bracing the doors would make a pretty hollow sound. Why one door only? Maybe it's a 'Monday car.' Bob On 11/17/2021 4:05 PM, Lawrence Paterson via Healeys wrote: > Jean, > > My BN2 was original when I restored it and that type of brace was not > on the car.? I suspect someone added it at some point in the car's life. > > Larry > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 23:56:19 +0000, Jean Caron via Healeys > wrote: > > Has anyone ever run into something like this, this is what appears to > be a brace that was in the driver side door in the BN2 I am currently > restoring. At the top it was attached to the horizontal wood piece > held there with two countersunk wood screws. 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Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Jean Caron via Healeys" To: "AH Mail List" Cc: Sent: Wednesday November 17 2021 3:57:09PM Subject: [Healeys] Door Brace - Has anyone ever run into something like this, this is what appears to be a brace that was in the driver side door in the BN2 I am currently restoring. At the top it was attached to the horizontal wood piece held there with two countersunk wood screws. At the bottom, it entered and turned to the inside and was secured with two rivets to the door bottom frame piece. Jean Sent from Mail [1] for Windows Links: ------ [1] https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jean Sent from Mail for Windows From: Bob Spidell Sent: November 17, 2021 9:03 PM To: Michael Salter Cc: Jean Caron; AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Door Brace - I think the doors would be prone to oilcanning without the braces. On Nov 17, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: ? Jean, I have now had an opportunity to check the doors in my low mileage BN2 and voil? there they are ... inside both doors. Must have been only on later cars because neither of my BN1s has them. M On Wed., Nov. 17, 2021, 6:56 p.m. Jean Caron via Healeys, > wrote: Has anyone ever run into something like this, this is what appears to be a brace that was in the driver side door in the BN2 I am currently restoring. At the top it was attached to the horizontal wood piece held there with two countersunk wood screws. At the bottom, it entered and turned to the inside and was secured with two rivets to the door bottom frame piece. 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Cheers, Curt On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:06 PM Jean Caron via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Quite possibly the reason why this was done. > > > > Jean > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > > > *From: *Bob Spidell > *Sent: *November 17, 2021 9:03 PM > *To: *Michael Salter > *Cc: *Jean Caron ; AH Mail List > > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Door Brace - > > > > I think the doors would be prone to oilcanning without the braces. > > > > > > On Nov 17, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > > Jean, I have now had an opportunity to check the doors in my low mileage > BN2 and voil? there they are ... inside both doors. > > Must have been only on later cars because neither of my BN1s has them. > > > > M > > > > On Wed., Nov. 17, 2021, 6:56 p.m. Jean Caron via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Has anyone ever run into something like this, this is what appears to be a > brace that was in the driver side door in the BN2 I am currently restoring. > At the top it was attached to the horizontal wood piece held there with two > countersunk wood screws. At the bottom, it entered and turned to the inside > and was secured with two rivets to the door bottom frame piece. > > > > Jean > > > > Sent from Mail > > for Windows > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Nov 17 20:21:55 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 19:21:55 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Door Brace - In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <33D2BA4D-888A-4449-882D-C02132CA4461@comcast.net> Having driven a BJ8 for a couple decades I?d gotten in the habit of bracing my left knee against the door, esp. in hard right turns. I broke that habit after hitting the cable opener in my BN2 a couple times. > On Nov 17, 2021, at 7:12 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote: > > ? > DO NOT REMOVE! > > That bracing was original to late BN2s, and as such is absolutely correct. It's a not well known detail, but it is how it came from the factory (Jensen). > > Cheers, > > Curt > >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:06 PM Jean Caron via Healeys wrote: >> Quite possibly the reason why this was done. >> >> >> >> Jean >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> >> >> From: Bob Spidell >> Sent: November 17, 2021 9:03 PM >> To: Michael Salter >> Cc: Jean Caron; AH Mail List >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Door Brace - >> >> >> >> I think the doors would be prone to oilcanning without the braces. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 17, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: >> >> ? >> >> Jean, I have now had an opportunity to check the doors in my low mileage BN2 and voil? there they are ... inside both doors. >> >> Must have been only on later cars because neither of my BN1s has them. >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Wed., Nov. 17, 2021, 6:56 p.m. Jean Caron via Healeys, wrote: >> >> Has anyone ever run into something like this, this is what appears to be a brace that was in the driver side door in the BN2 I am currently restoring. At the top it was attached to the horizontal wood piece held there with two countersunk wood screws. At the bottom, it entered and turned to the inside and was secured with two rivets to the door bottom frame piece. >> >> >> >> Jean >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey100m at me.com Wed Nov 17 20:39:40 2021 From: healey100m at me.com (Randall Hicks) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 22:39:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Door Brace - In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1AF10FA5-74CF-4C87-9D9B-A95044168628@me.com> My Jan. 19, 1956 & Feb. 3, 1956 build BN2/100M?s both have the brace. Randy Sent from my iPad > On Nov 17, 2021, at 10:12 PM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys wrote: > ? > DO NOT REMOVE! > > That bracing was original to late BN2s, and as such is absolutely correct. It's a not well known detail, but it is how it came from the factory (Jensen). > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:06 PM Jean Caron via Healeys wrote: >> Quite possibly the reason why this was done. >> >> >> >> Jean >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> >> >> From: Bob Spidell >> Sent: November 17, 2021 9:03 PM >> To: Michael Salter >> Cc: Jean Caron; AH Mail List >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Door Brace - >> >> >> >> I think the doors would be prone to oilcanning without the braces. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 17, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: >> >> ? >> >> Jean, I have now had an opportunity to check the doors in my low mileage BN2 and voil? there they are ... inside both doors. >> >> Must have been only on later cars because neither of my BN1s has them. >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Wed., Nov. 17, 2021, 6:56 p.m. Jean Caron via Healeys, wrote: >> >> Has anyone ever run into something like this, this is what appears to be a brace that was in the driver side door in the BN2 I am currently restoring. At the top it was attached to the horizontal wood piece held there with two countersunk wood screws. At the bottom, it entered and turned to the inside and was secured with two rivets to the door bottom frame piece. >> >> >> >> Jean >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Nov 18 09:03:35 2021 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 08:03:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Door Brace - In-Reply-To: <1AF10FA5-74CF-4C87-9D9B-A95044168628@me.com> References: <1AF10FA5-74CF-4C87-9D9B-A95044168628@me.com> Message-ID: Jean, I will have to re-read the current guidelines, but as far as I'm concerned, if an aluminium head is "Indistinguishable" from the original, there should be ZERO deductions! I have one on my car and it is "Indistinguishable" from the original. Just like I have a period original 3.54 rear end and other unseen period options for my stock, non LeMans BN1 that will out run any "stock 100M". The whole point of AH Concours was to encourage our cars to be driven, and to NOT be "Trailer Queens" as are a lot of marque Concours. Another member of the Concours Committee has the exact same engine mods that I do, so I'm in good company. Neither of our cars can be distinguished as not being 100% stock from the factory in 1955. Cheers, Curt On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:39 PM Randall Hicks wrote: > My Jan. 19, 1956 & Feb. 3, 1956 build BN2/100M?s both have the brace. > > Randy > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 17, 2021, at 10:12 PM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > DO NOT REMOVE! > > That bracing was original to late BN2s, and as such is absolutely > correct. It's a not well known detail, but it is how it came from the > factory (Jensen). > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:06 PM Jean Caron via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Quite possibly the reason why this was done. >> >> >> >> Jean >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows >> >> >> >> *From: *Bob Spidell >> *Sent: *November 17, 2021 9:03 PM >> *To: *Michael Salter >> *Cc: *Jean Caron ; AH Mail List >> >> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Door Brace - >> >> >> >> I think the doors would be prone to oilcanning without the braces. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 17, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> Jean, I have now had an opportunity to check the doors in my low mileage >> BN2 and voil? there they are ... inside both doors. >> >> Must have been only on later cars because neither of my BN1s has them. >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Wed., Nov. 17, 2021, 6:56 p.m. Jean Caron via Healeys, < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Has anyone ever run into something like this, this is what appears to be >> a brace that was in the driver side door in the BN2 I am currently >> restoring. At the top it was attached to the horizontal wood piece held >> there with two countersunk wood screws. At the bottom, it entered and >> turned to the inside and was secured with two rivets to the door bottom >> frame piece. >> >> >> >> Jean >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail >> >> for Windows >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at me.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From airtightproductions at me.com Thu Nov 18 09:07:37 2021 From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 16:07:37 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Leaving the list Message-ID: <77c03983-5251-43a2-9ca7-65ca8714aade@me.com> So sorry to hear, but I promise, I will keep my Healey on the road for as long as I can! And that I hope is a long, long time. Best of luck to you Bob, the list will miss you.Steven KingsburyBN1On Nov 18, 2021, at 5:59 AM, Bob Brown via Healeys wrote:I have been on this list since the beginning. I regret that I no longer am able to converse with you all.My sight has deteriorated to the point I can't read the emails any longer.?I will be unsubscribing tomorrow.? By the way my wife Pat typed this.I wish you all the best. Keep your Healeys on the road.Bob Brown_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archiveHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eps2660 at gmail.com Thu Nov 18 09:40:44 2021 From: eps2660 at gmail.com (Elton S) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 11:40:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Leaving the list In-Reply-To: <164754437.1273520.1637243938895@mail.yahoo.com> References: <164754437.1273520.1637243938895.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <164754437.1273520.1637243938895@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sorry to see you go. I wish you the best. Elton On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 8:59 AM Bob Brown via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I have been on this list since the beginning. I regret that I no longer am > able to converse with you all. > My sight has deteriorated to the point I can't read the emails any longer. > I will be unsubscribing tomorrow. By the way my wife Pat typed this. > > > I wish you all the best. Keep your Healeys on the road. > > Bob Brown > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey100m at me.com Thu Nov 18 09:44:16 2021 From: healey100m at me.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 11:44:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Door Brace - In-Reply-To: References: <1AF10FA5-74CF-4C87-9D9B-A95044168628@me.com> Message-ID: Curt is correct. If the head is truly ?indistinguishable? from original, there will be no deduction. Randy > On Nov 18, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Curtis Arndt wrote: > > Jean, > > I will have to re-read the current guidelines, but as far as I'm concerned, if an aluminium head is "Indistinguishable" from the original, there should be ZERO deductions! > > I have one on my car and it is "Indistinguishable" from the original. Just like I have a period original 3.54 rear end and other unseen period options for my stock, non LeMans BN1 that will out run any "stock 100M". The whole point of AH Concours was to encourage our cars to be driven, and to NOT be "Trailer Queens" as are a lot of marque Concours. > > Another member of the Concours Committee has the exact same engine mods that I do, so I'm in good company. Neither of our cars can be distinguished as not being 100% stock from the factory in 1955. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:39 PM Randall Hicks > wrote: > My Jan. 19, 1956 & Feb. 3, 1956 build BN2/100M?s both have the brace. > > Randy > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 17, 2021, at 10:12 PM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys > wrote: >> >> ? >> DO NOT REMOVE! >> >> That bracing was original to late BN2s, and as such is absolutely correct. It's a not well known detail, but it is how it came from the factory (Jensen). >> >> Cheers, >> >> Curt >> >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:06 PM Jean Caron via Healeys > wrote: >> Quite possibly the reason why this was done. >> >> >> >> Jean >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> >> >> From: Bob Spidell >> Sent: November 17, 2021 9:03 PM >> To: Michael Salter >> Cc: Jean Caron ; AH Mail List >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Door Brace - >> >> >> >> I think the doors would be prone to oilcanning without the braces. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 17, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: >> >> ? >> >> Jean, I have now had an opportunity to check the doors in my low mileage BN2 and voil? there they are ... inside both doors. >> >> Must have been only on later cars because neither of my BN1s has them. >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Wed., Nov. 17, 2021, 6:56 p.m. Jean Caron via Healeys, > wrote: >> >> Has anyone ever run into something like this, this is what appears to be a brace that was in the driver side door in the BN2 I am currently restoring. At the top it was attached to the horizontal wood piece held there with two countersunk wood screws. At the bottom, it entered and turned to the inside and was secured with two rivets to the door bottom frame piece. >> >> >> Jean >> >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at me.com >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 18 09:46:47 2021 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock BCS) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 08:46:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Door Brace - In-Reply-To: References: <1AF10FA5-74CF-4C87-9D9B-A95044168628@me.com> Message-ID: Yes there is a way to tell the difference. Above the spark plug on the cast iron head there is a small dimple in the casting, that is not there on the alloy heads. David Nock British Car Specialists 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com From: Curtis Arndt via Healeys Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 8:03 AM To: Randall Hicks Cc: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Door Brace - Jean, I will have to re-read the current guidelines, but as far as I'm concerned, if an aluminium head is "Indistinguishable" from the original, there should be ZERO deductions! I have one on my car and it is "Indistinguishable" from the original. Just like I have a period original 3.54 rear end and other unseen period options for my stock, non LeMans BN1 that will out run any "stock 100M". The whole point of AH Concours was to encourage our cars to be driven, and to NOT be "Trailer Queens" as are a lot of marque Concours. Another member of the Concours Committee has the exact same engine mods that I do, so I'm in good company. Neither of our cars can be distinguished as not being 100% stock from the factory in 1955. Cheers, Curt On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:39 PM Randall Hicks wrote: My Jan. 19, 1956 & Feb. 3, 1956 build BN2/100M?s both have the brace. Randy Sent from my iPad On Nov 17, 2021, at 10:12 PM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys wrote: ? DO NOT REMOVE! That bracing was original to late BN2s, and as such is absolutely correct. It's a not well known detail, but it is how it came from the factory (Jensen). Cheers, Curt On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:06 PM Jean Caron via Healeys wrote: Quite possibly the reason why this was done. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows From: Bob Spidell Sent: November 17, 2021 9:03 PM To: Michael Salter Cc: Jean Caron; AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Door Brace - I think the doors would be prone to oilcanning without the braces. On Nov 17, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: ? Jean, I have now had an opportunity to check the doors in my low mileage BN2 and voil? there they are ... inside both doors. Must have been only on later cars because neither of my BN1s has them. M On Wed., Nov. 17, 2021, 6:56 p.m. Jean Caron via Healeys, wrote: Has anyone ever run into something like this, this is what appears to be a brace that was in the driver side door in the BN2 I am currently restoring. At the top it was attached to the horizontal wood piece held there with two countersunk wood screws. At the bottom, it entered and turned to the inside and was secured with two rivets to the door bottom frame piece. 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I regret that I no longer am able to converse with you all.My sight has deteriorated to the point I can't read the emails any longer.?I will be unsubscribing tomorrow.? By the way my wife Pat typed this. > I wish you all the best. Keep your Healeys on the road. > Bob Brown > -- Kent McLean 1956 BN2, 1960 Bugeye -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hopi at charter.net Thu Nov 18 12:25:49 2021 From: hopi at charter.net (hopi at charter.net) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 19:25:49 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Re: Leaving the list Message-ID: At 71 still have my 54 Nash-Healey (owned 46 years), 59 Berkeley SE492 and ride my 1973 R75/6 BMW and 2004 R1150R bikes. Will drive and ride as long as I am able. John Barth -----------------------------------------From: "Elton S via Healeys" To: "Bob Brown" Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Thursday November 18 2021 10:41:25AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaving the list Sorry to see you go. I wish you the best. Elton On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 8:59 AM Bob Brown via Healeys wrote: I have been on this list since the beginning. I regret that I no longer am able to converse with you all. My sight has deteriorated to the point I can't read the emails any longer. I will be unsubscribing tomorrow. By the way my wife Pat typed this. I wish you all the best. Keep your Healeys on the road. 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Bob Cobb -- Message-ID:<164754437.1273520.1637243938895 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I have been on this list since the beginning. I regret that I no longer am able to converse with you all.My sight has deteriorated to the point I can't read the emails any longer.?I will be unsubscribing tomorrow.? By the way my wife Pat typed this. I wish you all the best. Keep your Healeys on the road. Bob Brown From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Nov 18 15:21:07 2021 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:21:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] leaving the list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There are text readers built into operation systems You might want to get some help setting it up Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 12:05 PM RCobb via Healeys wrote: > Hi Bob, > > Sorry to learn of your vision issues. > > I recall your avid participation in all things Healey, especially in, > but not limited to, the Chicago area. > > Time does move forward, though fortunately we have great > memories...meeting in Chuck Anderson's garage, with Healeys strewn > across his front lawn and the meals at Red Robin when we met in > Warrenville, for Healey events or at your home. > > I was active in the Chicago AHCU chapter in the 80s and 90s and at the > time my BJ8 was silver. > > Don't know how much your current vision limits your driving, but, as I > recall Pat was a very competent driver, particularly in Healey Club > events, so you have a built-in chauffeur! > > All the best. > > Bob Cobb > > -- > > Message-ID:<164754437.1273520.1637243938895 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have been on this list since the beginning. I regret that I no longer am > able to converse with you all.My sight has deteriorated to the point I > can't read the emails any longer.?I will be unsubscribing tomorrow.? By the > way my wife Pat typed this. > > I wish you all the best. Keep your Healeys on the road. > Bob Brown > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 5:21 PM i erbs via Healeys wrote: > There are text readers built into operation systems > You might want to get some help setting it up > > Ira Erbs > 1959 AH 100-6 > 1967 MGB > Milwaukie, OR > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 12:05 PM RCobb via Healeys > wrote: > >> Hi Bob, >> >> Sorry to learn of your vision issues. >> >> I recall your avid participation in all things Healey, especially in, >> but not limited to, the Chicago area. >> >> Time does move forward, though fortunately we have great >> memories...meeting in Chuck Anderson's garage, with Healeys strewn >> across his front lawn and the meals at Red Robin when we met in >> Warrenville, for Healey events or at your home. >> >> I was active in the Chicago AHCU chapter in the 80s and 90s and at the >> time my BJ8 was silver. >> >> Don't know how much your current vision limits your driving, but, as I >> recall Pat was a very competent driver, particularly in Healey Club >> events, so you have a built-in chauffeur! >> >> All the best. >> >> Bob Cobb >> >> -- >> >> Message-ID:<164754437.1273520.1637243938895 at mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I have been on this list since the beginning. I regret that I no longer >> am able to converse with you all.My sight has deteriorated to the point I >> can't read the emails any longer.?I will be unsubscribing tomorrow.? By the >> way my wife Pat typed this. >> >> I wish you all the best. Keep your Healeys on the road. >> Bob Brown >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Nov 18 20:17:54 2021 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 22:17:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Leaving the list In-Reply-To: <7D7BD383-013B-4631-B096-79526C5DDD19@comcast.net> References: <7D7BD383-013B-4631-B096-79526C5DDD19@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob-- Your departure from the list will be a loss to all of us. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 2:17 PM Kent McLean via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Bob, > I'm sorry to hear that. Depending on what you read your email on (PC or > Mac), you can find software that will read your email to you. Going the > other way, there is software to convert your speech into text; Dragon is > one. > > Sadly, you'll need help with these links. > https://apps.apple.com/us/app/speaking-email-voice-reader/id991406423 > > https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/use-voice-typing-to-talk-instead-of-type-on-your-pc-fec94565-c4bd-329d-e59a-af033fa5689f > https://www.nuance.com/dragon.html > > > Bob Brown wrote: > > I have been on this list since the beginning. I regret that I no longer am > able to converse with you all.My sight has deteriorated to the point I > can't read the emails any longer.?I will be unsubscribing tomorrow.? By the > way my wife Pat typed this. > I wish you all the best. Keep your Healeys on the road. > Bob Brown > -- > > > Kent McLean > 1956 BN2, 1960 Bugeye > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -- Best--Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Fri Nov 19 19:12:32 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 18:12:32 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Door brace In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have not done the interior of my BN2 yet. My door brace seems kind of thin. Does not look like it would present a problem covering the bottom half of the inner door skin. Mike MacLean On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 5:37 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Nice work-they look perfect-brace and all! Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "S and T Miller via Healeys" > To: "vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com" > Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" > Sent: Thursday November 18 2021 11:15:56AM > Subject: [Healeys] Door brace > > I had asked the question a while ago about how to install the vinyl over > that brace, to no avail. My later BN2 has them, and I found other examples > online. Here is a pic of mine. > Shawn > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/springer.mike51 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20211119_180928.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3573952 bytes Desc: not available URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sat Nov 20 09:47:24 2021 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:47:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Frame drawing Message-ID: I know this is a long shot but does anyone happen to have a dimensioned drawing of a 100 frame that they would be willing to share? CAD or otherwise would be great. M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Sat Nov 20 11:08:06 2021 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2021 20:08:06 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] British Fastener Decoder booklet In-Reply-To: <911D9EB7-F6C1-4313-9614-A60F65E7AA92@verizon.net> References: <911D9EB7-F6C1-4313-9614-A60F65E7AA92.ref@verizon.net> <911D9EB7-F6C1-4313-9614-A60F65E7AA92@verizon.net> Message-ID: George, was this a legit email? There was an attachment, but no message body. As a matter of basic computer security I never click to open an attachment where the sender didn't include some bare minimum content that makes clear it's legit, and not some exploit. (Now, if only I could get my clients to be careful!) ________________ Best Regards, Al Fuller On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 2:37 AM George Marinos via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Sat Nov 20 15:07:24 2021 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2021 11:07:24 +1300 Subject: [Healeys] Frame drawing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d7de5b$01167c40$034374c0$@xtra.co.nz> Michael, Attached is the only drawing I have. Sadly, it is not clearly defined, but I?ve never found a better one anywhere. Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Michael Salter Sent: Sunday, 21 November 2021 5:47 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Frame drawing I know this is a long shot but does anyone happen to have a dimensioned drawing of a 100 frame that they would be willing to share? CAD or otherwise would be great. M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100 chassis dimensions.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 297961 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ynotink at msn.com Sat Nov 20 16:13:09 2021 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2021 23:13:09 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Frame drawing In-Reply-To: <000001d7de5b$01167c40$034374c0$@xtra.co.nz> References: <000001d7de5b$01167c40$034374c0$@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: Can you get one from Jule? ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Mark Donaldson via Healeys Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 10:07 PM To: 'Michael Salter' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Frame drawing Michael, Attached is the only drawing I have. Sadly, it is not clearly defined, but I?ve never found a better one anywhere. Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Michael Salter Sent: Sunday, 21 November 2021 5:47 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Frame drawing I know this is a long shot but does anyone happen to have a dimensioned drawing of a 100 frame that they would be willing to share? CAD or otherwise would be great. M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sat Nov 20 19:45:50 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2021 02:45:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Frame drawing Message-ID: <7d97a812626c9dc944b6866ef5cafaf6b82ad69e@webmail> Guys-I did have this one, but its more about the body. Actual item is about 2MB. This one issized to email. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Mark Donaldson via Healeys" To: "Michael Salter" Cc: Sent: Saturday November 20 2021 2:08:27PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Frame drawing Michael, Attached is the only drawing I have. Sadly, it is not clearly defined, but I?ve never found a better one anywhere. Mark Ardmore, NZ FROM: Michael Salter SENT: Sunday, 21 November 2021 5:47 AM TO: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: [Healeys] Frame drawing I know this is a long shot but does anyone happen to have a dimensioned drawing of a 100 frame that they would be willing to share? CAD or otherwise would be great. M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sat Nov 20 19:48:42 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2021 02:48:42 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Re: Frame drawing Message-ID: It did not attach-try again. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Henry G Leach via Healeys" To: "Mark Donaldson" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday November 20 2021 6:46:39PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Frame drawing Guys-I did have this one, but its more about the body. Actual item is about 2MB. This one issized to email. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Mark Donaldson via Healeys" To: "Michael Salter" Cc: Sent: Saturday November 20 2021 2:08:27PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Frame drawing Michael, Attached is the only drawing I have. Sadly, it is not clearly defined, but I?ve never found a better one anywhere. Mark Ardmore, NZ FROM: Michael Salter SENT: Sunday, 21 November 2021 5:47 AM TO: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: [Healeys] Frame drawing I know this is a long shot but does anyone happen to have a dimensioned drawing of a 100 frame that they would be willing to share? CAD or otherwise would be great. M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100drawing.tiff Type: image/tiff Size: 306866 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sun Nov 21 08:35:01 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2021 15:35:01 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Re: Frame drawing Message-ID: Having just sent out this drawing, and coincidently revising my early 100 interior with new panels, I am cautioning you all to what I have discovered to be a turning point in production that was not really apparent, but after examining this drawing there is a major differences between the early cars and the "late" early cars! The drawing done in 1/4 scale is dated July 28, 1953. Please note the following on that drawing: It shows an adjustable steering wheel with 2-1/2" movement and a fixed seat also with 2-1/2" movement, but it also indicates reflector pods on the rear shroud. Obviously this is an interim drawing and not as production proceeded. At Jensen car body 1001, Austin factory built about 12-1-53. major changes were incorporated and the fixed seat and adjustable steering wheel were eliminated. These changes were to be instituted around Sept 1953 upon return of the factory workers from holiday in August. However, as production modifications go, it would take some time to introduce all the changes. Austin did not assemble its 1000th car until chassis 149924, invoiced 12-19-53. By the end of the year, Jensen had completed all 1274 bodies, or at least billed Austin for them. Approximately three-quarters of the total production for 1953 used earlier assembled bodies and did not incorporate the later ":standardized" measurements. My early (body 588) interior panels do not match the later "larger" items! The balance of the 1953-54 production appears to have different specs, interior wise, as well as a number of mechanical differences. There must be another later drawing depicting the modifications found in the late BN1 and BN2 designs. Regards, Hank -----------------------------------------From: gradea1 at charter.net To: "healeys at autox.team.net" Cc: Sent: Saturday November 20 2021 6:48:42PM Subject: FW: Re: [Healeys] Frame drawing It did not attach-try again. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Henry G Leach via Healeys" To: "Mark Donaldson" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday November 20 2021 6:46:39PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Frame drawing Guys-I did have this one, but its more about the body. Actual item is about 2MB. This one issized to email. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Mark Donaldson via Healeys" To: "Michael Salter" Cc: Sent: Saturday November 20 2021 2:08:27PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Frame drawing Michael, Attached is the only drawing I have. Sadly, it is not clearly defined, but I?ve never found a better one anywhere. Mark Ardmore, NZ FROM: Michael Salter SENT: Sunday, 21 November 2021 5:47 AM TO: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: [Healeys] Frame drawing I know this is a long shot but does anyone happen to have a dimensioned drawing of a 100 frame that they would be willing to share? CAD or otherwise would be great. M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100drawing.tiff Type: image/tiff Size: 306866 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jstmorris at yahoo.com Sun Nov 21 12:33:39 2021 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2021 19:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Frame drawing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1332992917.4067202.1637523219193@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Michael; I don't think the attached drawings are exactly what you are after but they may help. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario? ? ? ?- Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives On Saturday, November 20, 2021, 11:47:50 a.m. EST, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: I know this is a long shot but does anyone happen to have a dimensioned drawing of a 100 frame that they would be willing to share? CAD or otherwise would be great. M _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jstmorris at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100 Blueprint.doc Type: application/msword Size: 1101312 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dwflagg at juno.com Mon Nov 22 09:57:53 2021 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg at juno.com) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 16:57:53 GMT Subject: [Healeys] Steve Byers Message-ID: <20211122.115753.1314.1@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Steve, Please give me a shout. Doug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Nov 22 15:37:55 2021 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 17:37:55 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Rear Springs In-Reply-To: <1776650897.666578.1635206982803@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1776650897.666578.1635206982803@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, based opon the advice given and a carefully reading ofthe information on their web page https://britishclassiccarparts.com/ which includes this statement: *BCC will only supply springs that comply, as best possible, with OEM specifications or better *I ordered a pair of BN1 rear springs. Initially I thought my order had not gone through because despite their statement that *"Your order confirmation from BCC will include basic dimensional information on the spring you have ordered allowing you to check against the springs you are replacing" *I received no confirmation from BCC that the order had been received and the only way to confirm that it had indeed been received aws to check my account withdrawals. These springs are not inexpensive and ended up costing almost 3 times what they would have cost from one of the usual suspects. When I finally received the shipment and had an opportunity to examine what had been supplied I was far from impressed. This is my email sent to BCC regarding their * "OEM specifications or better"* product. *Dear Sirs, * *We recently received from yourselves a pair of rear leaf springs purchased for an Austin Healey 100 BN1 which we are restoring to concours level for a long-time customer.* *The preamble on your web site states ?BCC will only supply springs that comply, as best possible, with OEM specifications or better.?* *You also state ?Your order confirmation from BCC will include basic dimensional information on the spring you have ordered allowing you to check against the springs you are replacing.? We received neither an order confirmation nor the dimensional information mentioned.* *The springs that we have received do not come even close to the OEM specifications for the springs for a BN1.* *There were 3 types of leaf springs supplied for the BN1. The final design, fitted after body number C.154647 was arrived at after much experimentation as many owners experienced difficulties with the rear suspension of these vehicles.* *The last type, part number 1B829, had the following specifications:* *Free length 34.75? * *Laden length 36?* *Free camber 3.75?* *Laden camber 0.25?* *Deflection 4? @ 490 lbs* *Number of leaves 8* *Number of zinc interleaves 3* *6 rebound clips were used on each spring, 2 open to the top and one, the outer, open to the bottom.* *The rebound clips were closed using ?? UNF countersunk slot screws with tubular spacers. * *A special extra-long ?toe bolt? head was required to penetrate the fiber pads and tapered spacers.* *The springs that you have supplied are absolutely unsuitable for use on this vehicle and are nothing like OEM specifications.* *In addition to the above the following are some of the other problems that we have noticed with your product.* *1. Free camber 4.75?* *2. No zinc interleaves at all.* *3. Metric thread hex head rebound clip screws (threatening the tyre sidewalls)* *4. Short ?toe bolt? heads (very dangerous as the axle will be located by friction alone if these springs were to be installed)* *5. Middle rebound clip installed upside down* *6. Nothing locating the end rebound clips * *We have not bothered to install these springs because this would obviously be a total waste of our time. * *The cost of these springs ?576.27 plus local taxes of $CDN107.20 (?63.01) for a total of ?639.28.* *We could have purchased Indian made reproduction springs, which we have used previously and are considerably more accurate aesthetically, from a local supplier for about 30% of the cost from yourselves but based upon the claims on your advertising opted to purchase what were reputed to be the best available.* *We do not believe that it is unreasonable of us to expect a full refund as your product does not even come close to being what you advertise.* *We will be happy to return this defective product to you at your expense.* *Please advise.* * Michael Salter* The answer received from the General Manager of BCC served no useful purpose and indicated that he should definitely seek a career in politics when BCC goes under. *NOT RECOMMENDED* On Mon., Oct. 25, 2021, 8:09 p.m. John Sims, wrote: > Try britishclassiccarparts.com > > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Monday, October 25, 2021, 8:05 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Hi Michael - > > My experience is to have spring makers in the UK make them up. There are > several there, and generally they know what they are doing. > > Best, > > Alan > > On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 2:26 AM, Michael Salter > wrote: > > As is so common with "offshore " products I'm having ongoing problems with > the currently available rear springs, in particular those for the 100. > It seems that all the usual suspects source these from the same > manufacturer in India and it is my suspicion that these are made from > substandard steel. > Typically leaf springs are made from 5160 steel which is incredibly > resistant to deformation and fatigue. I don't have facilities to determine > what steel is used to make these springs but it certainly isn't 5160!! > Has anyone found a source for rear springs which last more than a few > years? > > M > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 22 16:11:03 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 15:11:03 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Rear Springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9A8E7E45-F850-424D-B2F1-B2DAF5D2B191@comcast.net> Wow. Makes me extra glad my dad made the effort to restore our BN2?s original springs, including my sourcing new zinc interleaves from a guy who had bought a sheet and had them cut to spec on a shear. Why is it so hard to get decent repop springs? > On Nov 22, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > > ? > Well, based opon the advice given and a carefully reading ofthe information on their web page https://britishclassiccarparts.com/ which includes this statement: BCC will only supply springs that comply, as best possible, with OEM specifications or better I ordered a pair of BN1 rear springs. > Initially I thought my order had not gone through because despite their statement that "Your order confirmation from BCC will include basic dimensional information on the spring you have ordered allowing you to check against the springs you are replacing" I received no confirmation from BCC that the order had been received and the only way to confirm that it had indeed been received aws to check my account withdrawals. > These springs are not inexpensive and ended up costing almost 3 times what they would have cost from one of the usual suspects. > When I finally received the shipment and had an opportunity to examine what had been supplied I was far from impressed. > This is my email sent to BCC regarding their "OEM specifications or better" product. > > Dear Sirs, > > We recently received from yourselves a pair of rear leaf springs purchased for an Austin Healey 100 BN1 which we are restoring to concours level for a long-time customer. > > The preamble on your web site states ?BCC will only supply springs that comply, as best possible, with OEM specifications or better.? > > You also state ?Your order confirmation from BCC will include basic dimensional information on the spring you have ordered allowing you to check against the springs you are replacing.? We received neither an order confirmation nor the dimensional information mentioned. > > The springs that we have received do not come even close to the OEM specifications for the springs for a BN1. > > There were 3 types of leaf springs supplied for the BN1. The final design, fitted after body number C.154647 was arrived at after much experimentation as many owners experienced difficulties with the rear suspension of these vehicles. > > The last type, part number 1B829, had the following specifications: > > Free length 34.75? > > Laden length 36? > > Free camber 3.75? > > Laden camber 0.25? > > Deflection 4? @ 490 lbs > > Number of leaves 8 > > Number of zinc interleaves 3 > > 6 rebound clips were used on each spring, 2 open to the top and one, the outer, open to the bottom. > > The rebound clips were closed using ?? UNF countersunk slot screws with tubular spacers. > > A special extra-long ?toe bolt? head was required to penetrate the fiber pads and tapered spacers. > > The springs that you have supplied are absolutely unsuitable for use on this vehicle and are nothing like OEM specifications. > > In addition to the above the following are some of the other problems that we have noticed with your product. > > 1. Free camber 4.75? > 2. No zinc interleaves at all. > 3. Metric thread hex head rebound clip screws (threatening the tyre sidewalls) > 4. Short ?toe bolt? heads (very dangerous as the axle will be located by friction alone if these springs were to be installed) > 5. Middle rebound clip installed upside down > 6. Nothing locating the end rebound clips > > We have not bothered to install these springs because this would obviously be a total waste of our time. > > The cost of these springs ?576.27 plus local taxes of $CDN107.20 (?63.01) for a total of ?639.28. > > We could have purchased Indian made reproduction springs, which we have used previously and are considerably more accurate aesthetically, from a local supplier for about 30% of the cost from yourselves but based upon the claims on your advertising opted to purchase what were reputed to be the best available. > > We do not believe that it is unreasonable of us to expect a full refund as your product does not even come close to being what you advertise. > > We will be happy to return this defective product to you at your expense. > > Please advise. > > Michael Salter > > > > The answer received from the General Manager of BCC served no useful purpose and indicated that he should definitely seek a career in politics when BCC goes under. > > > > NOT RECOMMENDED > > > On Mon., Oct. 25, 2021, 8:09 p.m. John Sims, wrote: >> Try britishclassiccarparts.com >> >> >> >> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >> >> On Monday, October 25, 2021, 8:05 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: >> >> Hi Michael - >> >> My experience is to have spring makers in the UK make them up. There are several there, and generally they know what they are doing. >> >> Best, >> >> Alan >> >> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 2:26 AM, Michael Salter wrote: >> As is so common with "offshore " products I'm having ongoing problems with the currently available rear springs, in particular those for the 100. >> It seems that all the usual suspects source these from the same manufacturer in India and it is my suspicion that these are made from substandard steel. >> Typically leaf springs are made from 5160 steel which is incredibly resistant to deformation and fatigue. I don't have facilities to determine what steel is used to make these springs but it certainly isn't 5160!! >> Has anyone found a source for rear springs which last more than a few years? >> >> M >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Nov 22 16:21:00 2021 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 18:21:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Rear Springs In-Reply-To: <9A8E7E45-F850-424D-B2F1-B2DAF5D2B191@comcast.net> References: <9A8E7E45-F850-424D-B2F1-B2DAF5D2B191@comcast.net> Message-ID: IMHO Bob this is very typical of unscrupulous companies who operate in this business. They are well aware that only very small proportion on customers will make the effort to complain or caution others. M On Mon., Nov. 22, 2021, 6:11 p.m. Bob Spidell, wrote: > Wow. Makes me extra glad my dad made the effort to restore our BN2?s > original springs, including my sourcing new zinc interleaves from a guy who > had bought a sheet and had them cut to spec on a shear. > > Why is it so hard to get decent repop springs? > > > > On Nov 22, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > Well, based opon the advice given and a carefully reading ofthe > information on their web page https://britishclassiccarparts.com/ which > includes this statement: *BCC will only supply springs that comply, as > best possible, with OEM specifications or better *I ordered a pair of BN1 > rear springs. > Initially I thought my order had not gone through because despite their > statement that *"Your order confirmation from BCC will include basic > dimensional information on the spring you have ordered allowing you to > check against the springs you are replacing" *I received no confirmation > from BCC that the order had been received and the only way to confirm that > it had indeed been received aws to check my account withdrawals. > These springs are not inexpensive and ended up costing almost 3 times what > they would have cost from one of the usual suspects. > When I finally received the shipment and had an opportunity to examine > what had been supplied I was far from impressed. > This is my email sent to BCC regarding their * "OEM specifications or > better"* product. > > *Dear Sirs, * > > *We recently received from yourselves a pair of rear leaf springs > purchased for an Austin Healey 100 BN1 which we are restoring to concours > level for a long-time customer.* > > *The preamble on your web site states ?BCC will only supply springs that > comply, as best possible, with OEM specifications or better.?* > > *You also state ?Your order confirmation from BCC will include basic > dimensional information on the spring you have ordered allowing you to > check against the springs you are replacing.? We received neither an order > confirmation nor the dimensional information mentioned.* > > *The springs that we have received do not come even close to the OEM > specifications for the springs for a BN1.* > > *There were 3 types of leaf springs supplied for the BN1. The final > design, fitted after body number C.154647 was arrived at after much > experimentation as many owners experienced difficulties with the rear > suspension of these vehicles.* > > *The last type, part number 1B829, had the following specifications:* > > *Free length 34.75? * > > *Laden length 36?* > > *Free camber 3.75?* > > *Laden camber 0.25?* > > *Deflection 4? @ 490 lbs* > > *Number of leaves 8* > > *Number of zinc interleaves 3* > > *6 rebound clips were used on each spring, 2 open to the top and one, the > outer, open to the bottom.* > > *The rebound clips were closed using ?? UNF countersunk slot screws with > tubular spacers. * > > *A special extra-long ?toe bolt? head was required to penetrate the fiber > pads and tapered spacers.* > > *The springs that you have supplied are absolutely unsuitable for use on > this vehicle and are nothing like OEM specifications.* > > *In addition to the above the following are some of the other problems > that we have noticed with your product.* > > *1. Free camber 4.75?* > > *2. No zinc interleaves at all.* > > *3. Metric thread hex head rebound clip screws (threatening the tyre > sidewalls)* > > *4. Short ?toe bolt? heads (very dangerous as the axle will be > located by friction alone if these springs were to be installed)* > > *5. Middle rebound clip installed upside down* > > *6. Nothing locating the end rebound clips * > > *We have not bothered to install these springs because this would > obviously be a total waste of our time. * > > *The cost of these springs ?576.27 plus local taxes of $CDN107.20 (?63.01) > for a total of ?639.28.* > > *We could have purchased Indian made reproduction springs, which we have > used previously and are considerably more accurate aesthetically, from a > local supplier for about 30% of the cost from yourselves but based upon the > claims on your advertising opted to purchase what were reputed to be the > best available.* > > *We do not believe that it is unreasonable of us to expect a full refund > as your product does not even come close to being what you advertise.* > > *We will be happy to return this defective product to you at your expense.* > > *Please advise.* > > * Michael Salter* > > > The answer received from the General Manager of BCC served no useful > purpose and indicated that he should definitely seek a career in politics > when BCC goes under. > > > > *NOT RECOMMENDED* > > On Mon., Oct. 25, 2021, 8:09 p.m. John Sims, wrote: > >> Try britishclassiccarparts.com >> >> >> >> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >> >> >> On Monday, October 25, 2021, 8:05 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Hi Michael - >> >> My experience is to have spring makers in the UK make them up. There are >> several there, and generally they know what they are doing. >> >> Best, >> >> Alan >> >> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 2:26 AM, Michael Salter >> wrote: >> >> As is so common with "offshore " products I'm having ongoing problems >> with the currently available rear springs, in particular those for the 100. >> It seems that all the usual suspects source these from the same >> manufacturer in India and it is my suspicion that these are made from >> substandard steel. >> Typically leaf springs are made from 5160 steel which is incredibly >> resistant to deformation and fatigue. I don't have facilities to determine >> what steel is used to make these springs but it certainly isn't 5160!! >> Has anyone found a source for rear springs which last more than a few >> years? >> >> M >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 22 17:39:54 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 16:39:54 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Chassis Dimensions In-Reply-To: <905F49F6-D3D8-443F-ADB6-C1357E48D99A@icloud.com> References: <905F49F6-D3D8-443F-ADB6-C1357E48D99A@icloud.com> Message-ID: Isn?t there a chassis dimensions drawing in the shop manual? > On Nov 22, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Bryan Harris via Healeys wrote: > > ?Michael, I have a A1 size chassis drawing that may be of help. We are shifting house at the mo but will see if I can locate it in the next day or two. Hope that is of help. > Regards Bryan. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > From gradea1 at charter.net Mon Nov 22 20:14:26 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 03:14:26 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Rear Springs Message-ID: <8513172c4fb022db86b6e1c1e0c8285c28afdfe4@webmail> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IN GETTING THE CORRECT SPRINGS IS THE THICKNESS OF THE LEAVES. If I remember, the factory British stock material was .059" and in the US there is none of that thickness available. The thinnest material available is .065. If you build up a spring using all of the thicker material it will not fit the car eyes, or the u-bolts. Luckily, when I rebuilt my 100, the spring shop in Portland, OR. had enough existing material stock to combine with my thinner original main leaf and I was able to put the unit together and into the rear end. At the time, 2015, he said that he was not able to get any more of that material when his stock was gone. Since my car is of early production, it uses the A series spring: 7 leaves, with 1/4" negative camber. The C-spring is another whole issue with that double eye. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Michael Salter via Healeys" To: "Bob Spidell" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Monday November 22 2021 3:21:54PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Rear Springs IMHO Bob this is very typical of unscrupulous companies who operate in this business. They are well aware that only very small proportion on customers will make the effort to complain or caution others. M On Mon., Nov. 22, 2021, 6:11 p.m. Bob Spidell, wrote: Wow. Makes me extra glad my dad made the effort to restore our BN2?s original springs, including my sourcing new zinc interleaves from a guy who had bought a sheet and had them cut to spec on a shear. Why is it so hard to get decent repop springs? On Nov 22, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: ? WELL, BASED OPON THE ADVICE GIVEN AND A CAREFULLY READING OFTHE INFORMATION ON THEIR WEB PAGE [1]HTTPS://BRITISHCLASSICCARPARTS.COM/ [2] WHICH INCLUDES THIS STATEMENT: _BCC WILL ONLY SUPPLY SPRINGS THAT COMPLY, AS BEST POSSIBLE, WITH OEM SPECIFICATIONS OR BETTER_ I ordered a pair of BN1 rear springs. Initially I thought my order had not gone through because despite their statement that _"YOUR ORDER CONFIRMATION FROM BCC WILL INCLUDE BASIC DIMENSIONAL INFORMATION ON THE SPRING YOU HAVE ORDERED ALLOWING YOU TO CHECK AGAINST THE SPRINGS YOU ARE REPLACING"_ I received no confirmation from BCC that the order had been received and the only way to confirm that it had indeed been received aws to check my account withdrawals. These springs are not inexpensive and ended up costing almost 3 times what they would have cost from one of the usual suspects. When I finally received the shipment and had an opportunity to examine what had been supplied I was far from impressed. This is my email sent to BCC regarding their _"OEM SPECIFICATIONS OR BETTER"_ product. _Dear Sirs, _ _We recently received from yourselves a pair of rear leaf springs purchased for an Austin Healey 100 BN1 which we are restoring to concours level for a long-time customer._ _The preamble on your web site states ?BCC WILL ONLY SUPPLY SPRINGS THAT COMPLY, AS BEST POSSIBLE, WITH OEM SPECIFICATIONS OR BETTER.?_ _You also state ?YOUR ORDER CONFIRMATION FROM BCC WILL INCLUDE BASIC DIMENSIONAL INFORMATION ON THE SPRING YOU HAVE ORDERED ALLOWING YOU TO CHECK AGAINST THE SPRINGS YOU ARE REPLACING.? We received neither an order confirmation nor the dimensional information mentioned._ _The springs that we have received do not come even close to the OEM specifications for the springs for a BN1._ _There were 3 types of leaf springs supplied for the BN1. The final design, fitted after body number C.154647 was arrived at after much experimentation as many owners experienced difficulties with the rear suspension of these vehicles._ _The last type, part number 1B829, had the following specifications:_ _Free length 34.75? _ _Laden length 36?_ _Free camber 3.75?_ _Laden camber 0.25?_ _Deflection 4? @ 490 lbs_ _Number of leaves 8_ _Number of zinc interleaves 3_ _6 rebound clips were used on each spring, 2 open to the top and one, the outer, open to the bottom._ _The rebound clips were closed using ?? UNF countersunk slot screws with tubular spacers. _ _A special extra-long ?toe bolt? head was required to penetrate the fiber pads and tapered spacers._ _The springs that you have supplied are absolutely unsuitable for use on this vehicle and are NOTHING LIKE OEM SPECIFICATIONS._ _In addition to the above the following are some of the other problems that we have noticed with your product._ _1. Free camber 4.75?_ _2. No zinc interleaves at all._ _3. Metric thread hex head rebound clip screws (threatening the tyre sidewalls)_ _4. Short ?toe bolt? heads (very dangerous as the axle will be located by friction alone if these springs were to be installed)_ _5. Middle rebound clip installed upside down_ _6. Nothing locating the end rebound clips _ _We have not bothered to install these springs because this would obviously be a total waste of our time. _ _The cost of these springs ?576.27 plus local taxes of $CDN107.20 (?63.01) for a total of ?639.28._ _We could have purchased Indian made reproduction springs, which we have used previously and are considerably more accurate aesthetically, from a local supplier for about 30% of the cost from yourselves but based upon the claims on your advertising opted to purchase what were reputed to be the best available._ _We do not believe that it is unreasonable of us to expect a full refund as your product does not even come close to being what you advertise._ _We will be happy to return this defective product to you at your expense._ _Please advise._ _ Michael Salter_ The answer received from the General Manager of BCC served no useful purpose and indicated that he should definitely seek a career in politics when BCC goes under. NOT RECOMMENDED On Mon., Oct. 25, 2021, 8:09 p.m. John Sims, wrote: Try britishclassiccarparts.com [3] Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS [4] On Monday, October 25, 2021, 8:05 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: Hi Michael - My experience is to have spring makers in the UK make them up. There are several there, and generally they know what they are doing. Best, Alan On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 2:26 AM, Michael Salter wrote: As is so common with "offshore " products I'm having ongoing problems with the currently available rear springs, in particular those for the 100. It seems that all the usual suspects source these from the same manufacturer in India and it is my suspicion that these are made from substandard steel. Typically leaf springs are made from 5160 steel which is incredibly resistant to deformation and fatigue. I don't have facilities to determine what steel is used to make these springs but it certainly isn't 5160!! Has anyone found a source for rear springs which last more than a few years? 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URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Tue Nov 23 03:20:28 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 02:20:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Rear Springs In-Reply-To: <8513172c4fb022db86b6e1c1e0c8285c28afdfe4@webmail> References: <8513172c4fb022db86b6e1c1e0c8285c28afdfe4@webmail> Message-ID: BCC springs just fitted to my not so concours BN2 restoration. Installation was easy and no problems fitting to the car. As of today I have still not had the car down on it's wheels to see the stance. Mike MacLean On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 7:14 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > One of the problems in getting the correct springs is the *thickness of > the leaves*. If I remember, the factory British stock material was .059" > and in the US there is none of that thickness available. The thinnest > material available is .065. If you build up a spring using all of the > thicker material it will not fit the car eyes, or the u-bolts. > > Luckily, when I rebuilt my 100, the spring shop in Portland, OR. had > enough existing material stock to combine with my thinner original main > leaf and I was able to put the unit together and into the rear end. At the > time, 2015, he said that he was not able to get any more of that material > when his stock was gone. > > Since my car is of early production, it uses the A series spring: 7 > leaves, with 1/4" negative camber. The C-spring is another whole issue with > that double eye. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Michael Salter via Healeys" > To: "Bob Spidell" > Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" > Sent: Monday November 22 2021 3:21:54PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Rear Springs > > IMHO Bob this is very typical of unscrupulous companies who operate in > this business. > They are well aware that only very small proportion on customers will > make the effort to complain or caution others. > > M > > On Mon., Nov. 22, 2021, 6:11 p.m. Bob Spidell, > wrote: > >> Wow. Makes me extra glad my dad made the effort to restore our BN2?s >> original springs, including my sourcing new zinc interleaves from a guy who >> had bought a sheet and had them cut to spec on a shear. >> >> Why is it so hard to get decent repop springs? >> >> >> >> On Nov 22, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> ? >> Well, based opon the advice given and a carefully reading ofthe >> information on their web page >> https://britishclassiccarparts.com/ which includes this statement: *BCC >> will only supply springs that comply, as best possible, with OEM >> specifications or better* I ordered a pair of BN1 rear springs. >> Initially I thought my order had not gone through because despite their >> statement that *"Your order confirmation from BCC will include basic >> dimensional information on the spring you have ordered allowing you to >> check against the springs you are replacing"* I received no confirmation >> from BCC that the order had been received and the only way to confirm that >> it had indeed been received aws to check my account withdrawals. >> These springs are not inexpensive and ended up costing almost 3 times >> what they would have cost from one of the usual suspects. >> When I finally received the shipment and had an opportunity to examine >> what had been supplied I was far from impressed. >> This is my email sent to BCC regarding their *"OEM specifications or >> better"* product. >> >> *Dear Sirs, * >> >> *We recently received from yourselves a pair of rear leaf springs >> purchased for an Austin Healey 100 BN1 which we are restoring to concours >> level for a long-time customer.* >> >> *The preamble on your web site states ?BCC will only supply springs that >> comply, as best possible, with OEM specifications or better.?* >> >> *You also state ?Your order confirmation from BCC will include basic >> dimensional information on the spring you have ordered allowing you to >> check against the springs you are replacing.? We received neither an order >> confirmation nor the dimensional information mentioned.* >> >> *The springs that we have received do not come even close to the OEM >> specifications for the springs for a BN1.* >> >> *There were 3 types of leaf springs supplied for the BN1. The final >> design, fitted after body number C.154647 was arrived at after much >> experimentation as many owners experienced difficulties with the rear >> suspension of these vehicles.* >> >> *The last type, part number 1B829, had the following specifications:* >> >> *Free length 34.75? * >> >> *Laden length 36?* >> >> *Free camber 3.75?* >> >> *Laden camber 0.25?* >> >> *Deflection 4? @ 490 lbs* >> >> *Number of leaves 8* >> >> *Number of zinc interleaves 3* >> >> *6 rebound clips were used on each spring, 2 open to the top and one, the >> outer, open to the bottom.* >> >> *The rebound clips were closed using ?? UNF countersunk slot screws with >> tubular spacers. * >> >> *A special extra-long ?toe bolt? head was required to penetrate the fiber >> pads and tapered spacers.* >> >> *The springs that you have supplied are absolutely unsuitable for use on >> this vehicle and are nothing like OEM specifications.* >> >> *In addition to the above the following are some of the other problems >> that we have noticed with your product.* >> >> *1. Free camber 4.75?* >> >> *2. No zinc interleaves at all.* >> >> *3. Metric thread hex head rebound clip screws (threatening the tyre >> sidewalls)* >> >> *4. Short ?toe bolt? heads (very dangerous as the axle will be >> located by friction alone if these springs were to be installed)* >> >> *5. Middle rebound clip installed upside down* >> >> *6. Nothing locating the end rebound clips * >> >> *We have not bothered to install these springs because this would >> obviously be a total waste of our time. * >> >> *The cost of these springs ?576.27 plus local taxes of $CDN107.20 >> (?63.01) for a total of ?639.28.* >> >> *We could have purchased Indian made reproduction springs, which we have >> used previously and are considerably more accurate aesthetically, from a >> local supplier for about 30% of the cost from yourselves but based upon the >> claims on your advertising opted to purchase what were reputed to be the >> best available.* >> >> *We do not believe that it is unreasonable of us to expect a full refund >> as your product does not even come close to being what you advertise.* >> >> *We will be happy to return this defective product to you at your >> expense.* >> >> *Please advise.* >> >> * Michael Salter* >> >> >> The answer received from the General Manager of BCC served no useful >> purpose and indicated that he should definitely seek a career in politics >> when BCC goes under. >> >> >> >> *NOT RECOMMENDED* >> >> On Mon., Oct. 25, 2021, 8:09 p.m. John Sims, wrote: >> >>> Try britishclassiccarparts.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >>> >>> >>> On Monday, October 25, 2021, 8:05 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Michael - >>> >>> My experience is to have spring makers in the UK make them up. There >>> are several there, and generally they know what they are doing. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 2:26 AM, Michael Salter >>> wrote: >>> >>> As is so common with "offshore " products I'm having ongoing problems >>> with the currently available rear springs, in particular those for the 100. >>> It seems that all the usual suspects source these from the same >>> manufacturer in India and it is my suspicion that these are made from >>> substandard steel. >>> Typically leaf springs are made from 5160 steel which is incredibly >>> resistant to deformation and fatigue. I don't have facilities to determine >>> what steel is used to make these springs but it certainly isn't 5160!! >>> Has anyone found a source for rear springs which last more than a few >>> years? >>> >>> M >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: >>> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: >>> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/springer.mike51 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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BCC will only supply springs that comply, as best possible, with OEM specifications or betterI ordered a pair of BN1 rear springs. Initially I thought my order had not gone through because despite their statement that "Your order confirmation from BCC will include basic dimensional information on the spring you have ordered allowing you to check against the springs you are replacing" I received no confirmation from BCC that the order had been received and the only way to confirm that it had indeed been received aws to check my account withdrawals.These springs are not inexpensive and ended up costing almost 3 times what they would have cost from one of the usual suspects.When I finally received the shipment and had an opportunity to examine what had been supplied I was far from impressed.This is my email sent to BCC regarding their "OEM specifications or better" product. Dear Sirs, We recently received from yourselves a pair of rear leafsprings purchased for an Austin Healey 100 BN1 which we are restoring to concourslevel for a long-time customer.The preamble on your web site states ?BCC will onlysupply springs that comply, as best possible, with OEM specifications or better.?You also state ?Your order confirmation from BCC willinclude basic dimensional information on the spring you have ordered allowingyou to check against the springs you are replacing.? We received neitheran order confirmation nor the dimensional information mentioned.The springs that we have received do not come even close tothe OEM specifications for the springs for a BN1.There were 3 types of leaf springs supplied for the BN1. Thefinal design, fitted after body number C.154647 was arrived at after muchexperimentation as many owners experienced difficulties with the rearsuspension of these vehicles.The last type, part number 1B829, had the followingspecifications:Free length? 34.75? Laden length 36?Free camber 3.75?Laden camber 0.25?Deflection 4? @ 490 lbsNumber of leaves 8Number of zinc interleaves 36 rebound clips were used on each spring, 2 open to the topand one, the outer, open to the bottom.The rebound clips were closed using ?? UNF countersunk slotscrews with tubular spacers. A special extra-long ?toe bolt? head was required topenetrate the fiber pads and tapered spacers.The springs that you have supplied are absolutely unsuitablefor use on this vehicle and are nothing like OEM specifications.In addition to the above the following are some of the otherproblems that we have noticed with your product.1.?????Free camber 4.75?2.?????No zinc interleaves at all.3.?????Metric thread hex head rebound clip screws (threateningthe tyre sidewalls)4.?????Short ?toe bolt? heads (very dangerous as theaxle will be located by friction alone if these springs were to be installed)5.?????Middle rebound clip installed upside down6.?????Nothing locating the end rebound clips We have not bothered to install these springs because this wouldobviously be a total waste of our time. The cost of these springs ?576.27 plus local taxes of $CDN107.20(?63.01) for a total of ?639.28.We could have purchased Indian made reproduction springs,which we have used previously and are considerably more accurate aesthetically,from a local supplier for about 30% of the cost from yourselves but based uponthe claims on your advertising opted to purchase what were reputed to be thebest available.We do not believe that it is unreasonable of us to expect afull refund as your product does not even come close to being what you advertise.We will be happy to return this defective product to you atyour expense.Please advise.?Michael Salter The answer received from the General Manager of BCC served no useful purpose and indicated that he should definitely seek a career in politics when BCC goes under. NOT RECOMMENDED On Mon., Oct. 25, 2021, 8:09 p.m. John Sims, wrote: Try britishclassiccarparts.com Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, October 25, 2021, 8:05 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote: Hi Michael - My experience is to have spring makers in the UK make them up.? There are several there, and generally they know what they are doing. Best, Alan On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 2:26 AM, Michael Salter wrote: As is so common with "offshore " products I'm having ongoing problems with the currently available rear springs, in particular those for the 100.It seems that all the usual suspects source these from the same manufacturer in India and it is my suspicion that these are made from substandard steel.?Typically leaf springs are made from 5160 steel which is incredibly resistant to deformation and fatigue. I don't have facilities to determine what steel is used to make these springs but it certainly isn't 5160!!Has anyone found a source for rear springs which last more than a few years? 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URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue Nov 23 12:49:01 2021 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:49:01 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 rear springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Richard, The method I use (starting point) is to check catalogs from the various vendors and see if the part numbers (and price) are the same. Rear springs.... *Moss* BN1-BN2 - Part no. *021-581* BN4-BJ8 - Part no. *021-582* *AH Spares* BN1-BN2 - Part no. *SUR120* BN4-BJ8 - Part no. *SUR121* *Ahead4Healeys* BN1-BN2 - Part no. *SR4060A* BN4-BJ8 - Part no. *SR4065A* >From here I call the vendors and ask them. Cheers, Curt On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 10:25 AM richard mayor via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Please pardon my ignorance. My experience with 100-4s is very limited. I > purchased a '55 BN1 earlier this year. It is a total basket case and > needs rear springs. I have some decent 100-6 leaf springs that I was > assuming I could use. 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URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Tue Nov 23 12:59:27 2021 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:59:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 rear springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Curt, Patrick's going to be disappointed that you didn't include the BN3 springs. :) Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 11/23/21 2:49 PM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys wrote: > Richard, > > The method I use (starting point) is to check catalogs from the > various vendors and see if the part numbers (and price) are the same. > > Rear springs.... > > *Moss* > BN1-BN2 - Part no. *021-581* > BN4-BJ8? - Part no. *021-582* > > *AH Spares* > BN1-BN2 - Part no. *SUR120* > BN4-BJ8? - Part no. *SUR121* > > *Ahead4Healeys* > BN1-BN2 - Part no. *SR4060A* > BN4-BJ8? - Part no. *SR4065A* > * > * > From here I call the vendors and ask them. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 10:25 AM richard mayor via Healeys > > wrote: > > Please pardon? my ignorance. My experience with 100-4s is very > limited.? I purchased a '55 BN1 earlier this year.?? It is a total > basket case and needs rear springs.? I have some decent 100-6 leaf > springs that I was assuming I could use.? All this discussion > about 100 springs has me wondering if there is something > dimensionally different so that I cannot use the 100-6 leaf > springs that I already have? > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue Nov 23 13:11:52 2021 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 12:11:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 rear springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Haha, thanks! BN3 springs... Are those like Unicorn saddles? On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 11:59 AM Bob Haskell wrote: > Curt, > > Patrick's going to be disappointed that you didn't include the BN3 > springs. :) > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > > On 11/23/21 2:49 PM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys wrote: > > Richard, > > > > The method I use (starting point) is to check catalogs from the > > various vendors and see if the part numbers (and price) are the same. > > > > Rear springs.... > > > > *Moss* > > BN1-BN2 - Part no. *021-581* > > BN4-BJ8 - Part no. *021-582* > > > > *AH Spares* > > BN1-BN2 - Part no. *SUR120* > > BN4-BJ8 - Part no. *SUR121* > > > > *Ahead4Healeys* > > BN1-BN2 - Part no. *SR4060A* > > BN4-BJ8 - Part no. *SR4065A* > > * > > * > > From here I call the vendors and ask them. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Curt > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 10:25 AM richard mayor via Healeys > > > wrote: > > > > Please pardon my ignorance. My experience with 100-4s is very > > limited. I purchased a '55 BN1 earlier this year. It is a total > > basket case and needs rear springs. I have some decent 100-6 leaf > > springs that I was assuming I could use. All this discussion > > about 100 springs has me wondering if there is something > > dimensionally different so that I cannot use the 100-6 leaf > > springs that I already have? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Tue Nov 23 14:52:37 2021 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 13:52:37 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 rear springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: A09B4F9E63AA4243977ABC3E88E37D37.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 70975 bytes Desc: not available URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Tue Nov 23 15:03:21 2021 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:03:21 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 rear springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The obvious difference in the part numbers is between the 4 cylinder cars and the 6 cylinder cars. I assume that's because of the weight difference. I'm not looking for concours quality. I'll be using a Ford 302 engine. It will be a resto mod. I want to know if the length, width or hole size are any different that will prohibit me from using my 100/6 springs. I don't care about spring material thickness, the number of leaves, or clips or anything else visual. Calling the vendors and asking them if they know what the difference is between these springs? Of course they will tell me they're different because they have different part numbers. Surely someone on the list must already know this. On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 11:49 AM Curtis Arndt wrote: > Richard, > > The method I use (starting point) is to check catalogs from the various > vendors and see if the part numbers (and price) are the same. > > Rear springs.... > > *Moss* > BN1-BN2 - Part no. *021-581* > BN4-BJ8 - Part no. *021-582* > > *AH Spares* > BN1-BN2 - Part no. *SUR120* > BN4-BJ8 - Part no. *SUR121* > > *Ahead4Healeys* > BN1-BN2 - Part no. *SR4060A* > BN4-BJ8 - Part no. *SR4065A* > > From here I call the vendors and ask them. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 10:25 AM richard mayor via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Please pardon my ignorance. My experience with 100-4s is very limited. >> I purchased a '55 BN1 earlier this year. It is a total basket case and >> needs rear springs. I have some decent 100-6 leaf springs that I was >> assuming I could use. All this discussion about 100 springs has me >> wondering if there is something dimensionally different so that I cannot >> use the 100-6 leaf springs that I already have? >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rthrift at cox.net Tue Nov 23 20:47:26 2021 From: rthrift at cox.net (RT) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 19:47:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Frame drawing In-Reply-To: <1332992917.4067202.1637523219193@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1332992917.4067202.1637523219193@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <437010671.1999070.1637725646269@myemail.cox.net> Beautiful! Are similar drawings available for BT7 ? Thanks! Richard Thrift > On November 21, 2021 at 11:33 AM "J. Scott Morris via Healeys" wrote: > > Hi Michael; I don't think the attached drawings are exactly what you are after but they may help. > > --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives > > > On Saturday, November 20, 2021, 11:47:50 a.m. EST, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > > > I know this is a long shot but does anyone happen to have a dimensioned drawing of a 100 frame that they would be willing to share? > CAD or otherwise would be great. > > M > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 23 21:07:44 2021 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 12:07:44 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Leaving the list In-Reply-To: <7D7BD383-013B-4631-B096-79526C5DDD19@comcast.net> References: <7D7BD383-013B-4631-B096-79526C5DDD19@comcast.net> Message-ID: Hi Bob - I am sorry to hear you are having problems with your eyesight, and we will definitely miss you on the list. Cheers, Alan On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 3:17 AM Kent McLean via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Bob, > I'm sorry to hear that. Depending on what you read your email on (PC or > Mac), you can find software that will read your email to you. Going the > other way, there is software to convert your speech into text; Dragon is > one. > > Sadly, you'll need help with these links. > https://apps.apple.com/us/app/speaking-email-voice-reader/id991406423 > > https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/use-voice-typing-to-talk-instead-of-type-on-your-pc-fec94565-c4bd-329d-e59a-af033fa5689f > https://www.nuance.com/dragon.html > > > Bob Brown wrote: > > I have been on this list since the beginning. I regret that I no longer am > able to converse with you all.My sight has deteriorated to the point I > can't read the emails any longer.?I will be unsubscribing tomorrow.? By the > way my wife Pat typed this. > I wish you all the best. Keep your Healeys on the road. > Bob Brown > -- > > > Kent McLean > 1956 BN2, 1960 Bugeye > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Scott Morris via Healeys" wrote: Hi Michael; I don't think the attached drawings are exactly what you are after but they may help. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario? ? ? ?- Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives On Saturday, November 20, 2021, 11:47:50 a.m. EST, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: I know this is a long shot but does anyone happen to have a dimensioned drawing of a 100 frame that they would be willing to share? CAD or otherwise would be great. M _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jstmorris at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 24 11:40:07 2021 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:40:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Frame drawing In-Reply-To: <440CC9B9-23D2-40EC-BFC3-807A69EFF090@hxcore.ol> References: <1332992917.4067202.1637523219193@mail.yahoo.com>, <437010671.1999070.1637725646269@myemail.cox.net> <440CC9B9-23D2-40EC-BFC3-807A69EFF090@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: <001201d7e162$b46e6fa0$1d4b4ee0$@sbcglobal.net> I have two original workshop manuals. Each one has section R but one has only the frame isometric and the other has nothing. Thanks for sending the drawings. John From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Harold Manifold via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 8:21 PM To: RT ; J. Scott Morris via Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Frame drawing Richard, I have these for the BT7 I scanned from the manual. Harold From: RT via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 7:47 PM To: J Scott Morris via Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Frame drawing Beautiful! Are similar drawings available for BT7 ? Thanks! Richard Thrift On November 21, 2021 at 11:33 AM "J. Scott Morris via Healeys" > wrote: Hi Michael; I don't think the attached drawings are exactly what you are after but they may help. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives On Saturday, November 20, 2021, 11:47:50 a.m. EST, Michael Salter via Healeys > wrote: I know this is a long shot but does anyone happen to have a dimensioned drawing of a 100 frame that they would be willing to share? CAD or otherwise would be great. M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjhco at att.net Wed Nov 24 14:59:09 2021 From: rjhco at att.net (Richard J. Hockert) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 21:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Center shift gearbox References: <7578694.5250919.1637791149197.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7578694.5250919.1637791149197@mail.yahoo.com> I have a BJ8 center shift gearbox that is extra to my needs. It is in excellent condition and features the rally quick O/D shift (has large piston in accumulator bore).? Would like to sell it and can ship it on a pallet.? Also have two rear end center sections that are all set up with Quaife anti-slip/torque biasing gear sets.? One rear end is 3.909 ratio and the other is 4.375 ratio. Please contact me if you have need for any of the above. Happy Healeying! Jim HockertDallas, TX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Each one has section R but one has > only the frame isometric and the other has nothing. > > > > Thanks for sending the drawings. > > > > John > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Harold > Manifold via Healeys > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2021 8:21 PM > *To:* RT ; J. Scott Morris via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Frame drawing > > > > Richard, > > > > I have these for the BT7 I scanned from the manual. > > > > Harold > > > > *From: *RT via Healeys > *Sent: *Tuesday, November 23, 2021 7:47 PM > *To: *J Scott Morris via Healeys > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Frame drawing > > > > Beautiful! Are similar drawings available for BT7 ? > > Thanks! > Richard Thrift > > On November 21, 2021 at 11:33 AM "J. Scott Morris via Healeys" < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Hi Michael; I don't think the attached drawings are exactly what you are > after but they may help. > > > > --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives > > > > > > On Saturday, November 20, 2021, 11:47:50 a.m. EST, Michael Salter via > Healeys wrote: > > > > > > I know this is a long shot but does anyone happen to have a dimensioned > drawing of a 100 frame that they would be willing to share? > > CAD or otherwise would be great. > > > > M > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rianhey at btinternet.com Sat Nov 27 09:56:39 2021 From: rianhey at btinternet.com (Ian Hey) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2021 16:56:39 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 frame drawing Message-ID: <002001d7e3af$beeacd80$3cc06880$@btinternet.com> I have been following the list search for a 100 frame drawing, and suddenly realised that I have a paper blueprint of a Healey chassis, drawing H7624 dated 20-1-53 (English date, not American). Drawing size is 49 x 27 inches. I have a BJ7 so am not up to speed on 100 frame details, but the engine mounts are not six cylinder Healey. In addition the drawing is marked 1B8845 Frame complete BN1 and 11B5112 Frame complete BN2, so I reckon it is a 100 frame drawing. The drawing quality is not great and I am not sure how well it would scan. I have found somewhere local who may be able to scan it, but it will be a very large file, possibly too big to be an attachment to an email. As far as I can make out a scan comes out as a TIFF (raster) file, which needs conversion to a CAD (vector) file of some sort. What file format should I aim for if I get it scanned? Ian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rianhey at btinternet.com Sat Nov 27 13:31:18 2021 From: rianhey at btinternet.com (Ian Hey) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2021 20:31:18 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 frame drawing Message-ID: <002f01d7e3cd$bb65c9d0$32315d70$@btinternet.com> If there is any specific dimension which you require, I can read it off the drawing and post it here. However, I will go ahead with scanning the drawing, since it is clear that there is interest in the drawing beyond the UK. Ian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rianhey at btinternet.com Sat Nov 27 13:53:15 2021 From: rianhey at btinternet.com (Ian Hey) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2021 20:53:15 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 frame drawing Message-ID: <000901d7e3d0$ccbc8a90$66359fb0$@btinternet.com> The file resulting from the scan will be available free, as long as the cost of scanning does not bankrupt me! More after Monday Ian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Nov 28 16:50:10 2021 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 15:50:10 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 registry Message-ID: Happy day, I have been searching for the BT7 registry and all of the sites have the email redacted. I have an original vin and body # plate for HTB7L/1203 and wanted to reunite. The car was sent somewhere in Europe at least 15 years ago.. Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DrBerkowitz at hotmail.com Mon Nov 29 05:26:10 2021 From: DrBerkowitz at hotmail.com (Leonard Berkowitz) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:26:10 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Hard start Message-ID: History first. I needed to change the jets in my carbs due to springing a leak in the pipe. Since then I apparently had some dirt in my fuel so I needed to change my fuel filter and clean the float bowls that seems to be OK now . I think I am running rich but I am not sure. Any help with figuring that out would be appreciated. Biggest problem now is that I am having trouble starting if the car hasn't been run for a while. Never had any problems with starting prior to the leak. Nothing else has been changed other than what I described. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Len -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Mon Nov 29 05:31:37 2021 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:31:37 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Update on clutch woes Message-ID: <000001d7e51d$0f548a90$2dfd9fb0$@alexarevel.plus.com> I received a lot of help and advice with regard to the clutch problem on my MkII BT7 for which, again, many thanks. Here's where we are:- 1) I replaced both master and slave cylinders and even converted the former to having an adjustable push rod which, mercifully, I did not have to use. No change. 2) I bled the system more times than I've hot dinners, as they say. No change. 3) I had the gearbox out and back 3 - or was it 4? - times. Centring that thing to a nanomillimetere if there is such a thing. No change except to blood pressure. 4) I had fairly fruitless discussions with the supplier who assured me that "Nothing like this has happened before". No comment will be issued at this juncture as the lawyers say. 5) I gave up on the new kit and decided that the new clutch cover, being 10+mm higher in the centre than the old, was the likely culprit. It was indeed the culprit. Restoring the old cover cured the problem 100%. 6) I'd only swapped the clutch in the first place because I had to remove the gearbox for an overdrive issue. On inspection the old clutch parts looked pretty good and, while you're in there... However, new clutch feels better than the old which is good. 7) The supplier refunded me in full thus let me keep the plate and bearing for free which was some compensation. Lightened flywheel by 14.5% off. Gives a nice feel. Not a huge difference but more responsive. I'm pleased with it. The overdrive pressure issue was solved by an uprated accumulator and other related bits. You may recall that the pump would not go back in, despite my best efforts? I thought I must be doing something wrong but gave up in the end and drove the OD and box up to OD Spares. Dave put in a new front casing as someone - NOT me - had used some "Plastic Padding" (JB Weld?) in the area at the top of the pump's travel. I presume to reline a scored bore. Anyhow, somehow or other, that stuff prevented my getting the pump back up the last few mm. So, in effect, that half of the OD has been rebuilt. And it works! I'd not had the car on the road until yesterday as I'd been waiting for the return of my handbrake from the platers. That's back in and looks much better than before. I even managed to adjust the handbrake cable as, miraculously, it was all greased and nothing was jammed on the threaded rod. What next? Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 29 05:53:38 2021 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:53:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Update on clutch woes In-Reply-To: <000001d7e51d$0f548a90$2dfd9fb0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d7e51d$0f548a90$2dfd9fb0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <000a01d7e520$20f72160$62e56420$@sympatico.ca> Simon, so glad the clutch issue is behind you. You may recall from my clutch saga a few years ago that the replacement parts I received were the issue, although in my case it was the clutch disc. So I think we must all be wary of replacement clutches - measure everything and compare old to new. I am told there are companies that will re-face a pressure plate. Perhaps this is a better option, although on a high mileage item, weakened springs may be an issue. I have never run across that myself. So just get in and drive it! Cheers, Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: November 29, 2021 7:32 AM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Update on clutch woes I received a lot of help and advice with regard to the clutch problem on my MkII BT7 for which, again, many thanks. Here's where we are:- 1) I replaced both master and slave cylinders and even converted the former to having an adjustable push rod which, mercifully, I did not have to use. No change. 2) I bled the system more times than I've hot dinners, as they say. No change. 3) I had the gearbox out and back 3 - or was it 4? - times. Centring that thing to a nanomillimetere if there is such a thing. No change except to blood pressure. 4) I had fairly fruitless discussions with the supplier who assured me that "Nothing like this has happened before". No comment will be issued at this juncture as the lawyers say. 5) I gave up on the new kit and decided that the new clutch cover, being 10+mm higher in the centre than the old, was the likely culprit. It was indeed the culprit. Restoring the old cover cured the problem 100%. 6) I'd only swapped the clutch in the first place because I had to remove the gearbox for an overdrive issue. On inspection the old clutch parts looked pretty good and, while you're in there... However, new clutch feels better than the old which is good. 7) The supplier refunded me in full thus let me keep the plate and bearing for free which was some compensation. Lightened flywheel by 14.5% off. Gives a nice feel. Not a huge difference but more responsive. I'm pleased with it. The overdrive pressure issue was solved by an uprated accumulator and other related bits. You may recall that the pump would not go back in, despite my best efforts? I thought I must be doing something wrong but gave up in the end and drove the OD and box up to OD Spares. Dave put in a new front casing as someone - NOT me - had used some "Plastic Padding" (JB Weld?) in the area at the top of the pump's travel. I presume to reline a scored bore. Anyhow, somehow or other, that stuff prevented my getting the pump back up the last few mm. So, in effect, that half of the OD has been rebuilt. And it works! I'd not had the car on the road until yesterday as I'd been waiting for the return of my handbrake from the platers. That's back in and looks much better than before. I even managed to adjust the handbrake cable as, miraculously, it was all greased and nothing was jammed on the threaded rod. What next? Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Nov 29 06:34:04 2021 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 08:34:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Hard start In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Len, what model are you working on? On Mon., Nov. 29, 2021, 7:26 a.m. Leonard Berkowitz via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > History first. I needed to change the jets in my carbs due to springing a > leak in the pipe. Since then I apparently had some dirt in my fuel so I > needed to change my fuel filter and clean the float bowls that seems to be > OK now . I think I am running rich but I am not sure. Any help with > figuring that out would be appreciated. Biggest problem now is that I am > having trouble starting if the car hasn't been run for a while. Never had > any problems with starting prior to the leak. Nothing else has been changed > other than what I described. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks > Len > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 29 08:32:14 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:32:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Update on clutch woes In-Reply-To: <000a01d7e520$20f72160$62e56420$@sympatico.ca> References: <000001d7e51d$0f548a90$2dfd9fb0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <000a01d7e520$20f72160$62e56420$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <74c6544e-6828-c5cc-8317-dfce6174a34b@comcast.net> Last time I replaced a clutch one of the disk springs (dampers?) was broken and, yes, this caused some judder. Glad you got your problems worked-out, Simon. I admire your tenacity. Bob On 11/29/2021 4:53 AM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: > > Simon, so glad the clutch issue is behind you.? You may recall from my > clutch saga a few years ago that the replacement parts I received were > the issue, although in my case it was the clutch disc.? So I think we > must all be wary of replacement clutches ? measure everything and > compare old to new.? I am told there are companies that will re-face a > pressure plate.? Perhaps this is a better option, although on a high > mileage item, weakened springs may be an issue.? I have never run > across that myself. > > So just get in and drive it! > > Cheers, Mirek > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Simon > Lachlan via Healeys > *Sent:* November 29, 2021 7:32 AM > *To:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* [Healeys] Update on clutch woes > > I received a lot of help and advice with regard to the clutch problem > on my MkII BT7 for which, again, many thanks. > > Here?s where we are:- > > 1) I replaced both master and slave cylinders and even converted the > former to having an adjustable push rod which, mercifully, I did not > have to use. No change. > > 2) I bled the system more times than I?ve hot dinners, as they say. No > change. > > 3) I had the gearbox out and back 3 - or was it 4? ? times. Centring > that thing to a nanomillimetere if there is such a thing. No change > except to blood pressure. > > 4) I had fairly fruitless discussions with the supplier who assured me > that ?Nothing like this has happened before?. No comment will be > issued at this juncture as the lawyers say. > > 5) I gave up on the new kit and decided that the new clutch cover, > being 10+mm higher in the centre than the old, was the likely culprit. > > It was indeed the culprit. Restoring the old cover cured the problem 100%. > > 6) I?d only swapped the clutch in the first place because I had to > remove the gearbox for an overdrive issue. On inspection the old > clutch parts looked pretty good and, while you?re in there?.. > > However, new clutch feels better than the old which is good. > > 7) The supplier refunded me in full thus let me keep the plate and > bearing for free which was some compensation. > > Lightened flywheel by 14.5% off. Gives a nice feel. Not a huge > difference but more responsive. I?m pleased with it. > > The overdrive pressure issue was solved by an uprated accumulator and > other related bits. > > You may recall that the pump would not go back in, despite my best > efforts? I thought I must be doing something wrong but gave up in the > end and drove the OD and box up to OD Spares. Dave put in a new front > casing as someone ? NOT me ? had used some ?Plastic Padding? (JB > Weld?) in the area at the top of the pump?s travel. I presume to > reline a scored bore. Anyhow, somehow or other, that stuff prevented > my getting the pump back up the last few mm. So, in effect, that half > of the OD has been rebuilt. > > And it works! > > I?d not had the car on the road until yesterday as I?d been waiting > for the return of my handbrake from the platers. That?s back in and > looks much better than before. I even managed to adjust the handbrake > cable as, miraculously, it was all greased and nothing was jammed on > the threaded rod. > > What next? > > Simon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 29 08:44:33 2021 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:44:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Hard start In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77275b55-5a37-3a44-59c7-8bc75debf6c7@comcast.net> Best way to get a 'quick read' on mixture is to use a ColourTune 'glass' spark plug(s). I bought two years ago--for a tri-carb you'd want three--and they've paid for themselves over the years (and they keep getting more expensive). You can also use the 'piston lifting' method, though it's hard to guesstimate a 1/32" lift; the (not so anymore) 'cheapie' tuning kits--handy for the money--has wire inserts that indicate piston lift and the little jet height-setting tool is alone worth the price of admission. Or, you can tune 'by ear'--best to separate the carbs at the linkages--and confirm by 'reading' the plugs and the tailpipes. My cars--BN2 and BJ8--have always been harder to start the longer they've been sitting. Be sure to let the pump fill the carb bowls--and make sure it stops--before cranking. It helps some to press the petrol pedal to the floor before you pull the choke cable all the way out. Double-check your choke mechanisms and settings. Bob On 11/29/2021 5:34 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > Len, what model are you working on? > > On Mon., Nov. 29, 2021, 7:26 a.m. Leonard Berkowitz via Healeys, > wrote: > > History first. I needed to change the jets in my carbs due to > springing a leak in the pipe. Since then I apparently had some > dirt in my fuel so I needed to change my fuel filter and clean the > float bowls that seems to be OK now . I think I am running rich > but I am not sure. Any help with figuring that out ?would be > appreciated. Biggest problem now is that I am having trouble > starting if the car hasn't been run for a while. Never had any > problems with starting prior to the leak. Nothing else has been > changed other than what I described. Any thoughts would be greatly > appreciated. > Thanks > Len > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ah100tech at gmail.com Mon Nov 29 10:12:40 2021 From: ah100tech at gmail.com (john harper) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 17:12:40 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Update on clutch woes In-Reply-To: <74c6544e-6828-c5cc-8317-dfce6174a34b@comcast.net> References: <000001d7e51d$0f548a90$2dfd9fb0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <000a01d7e520$20f72160$62e56420$@sympatico.ca> <74c6544e-6828-c5cc-8317-dfce6174a34b@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob The OD case can be damaged if effort is applied to withdraw the pump without first removing the Non-return valve. If the case is damaged it is very difficult to repair. How do I know this? Regards On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 15:33, Bob Spidell via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Last time I replaced a clutch one of the disk springs (dampers?) was > broken and, yes, this caused some judder. > > Glad you got your problems worked-out, Simon. I admire your tenacity. > > Bob > > > On 11/29/2021 4:53 AM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote: > > Simon, so glad the clutch issue is behind you. You may recall from my > clutch saga a few years ago that the replacement parts I received were the > issue, although in my case it was the clutch disc. So I think we must all > be wary of replacement clutches ? measure everything and compare old to > new. I am told there are companies that will re-face a pressure plate. > Perhaps this is a better option, although on a high mileage item, weakened > springs may be an issue. I have never run across that myself. > > > > So just get in and drive it! > > > > Cheers, Mirek > > > > *From:* Healeys > *On Behalf Of *Simon Lachlan via Healeys > *Sent:* November 29, 2021 7:32 AM > *To:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* [Healeys] Update on clutch woes > > > > I received a lot of help and advice with regard to the clutch problem on > my MkII BT7 for which, again, many thanks. > > Here?s where we are:- > > 1) I replaced both master and slave cylinders and even converted the > former to having an adjustable push rod which, mercifully, I did not have > to use. No change. > > 2) I bled the system more times than I?ve hot dinners, as they say. No > change. > > 3) I had the gearbox out and back 3 - or was it 4? ? times. Centring that > thing to a nanomillimetere if there is such a thing. No change except to > blood pressure. > > 4) I had fairly fruitless discussions with the supplier who assured me > that ?Nothing like this has happened before?. No comment will be issued at > this juncture as the lawyers say. > > 5) I gave up on the new kit and decided that the new clutch cover, being > 10+mm higher in the centre than the old, was the likely culprit. > > It was indeed the culprit. Restoring the old cover cured the problem 100%. > > 6) I?d only swapped the clutch in the first place because I had to remove > the gearbox for an overdrive issue. On inspection the old clutch parts > looked pretty good and, while you?re in there?.. > > However, new clutch feels better than the old which is good. > > 7) The supplier refunded me in full thus let me keep the plate and bearing > for free which was some compensation. > > > > Lightened flywheel by 14.5% off. Gives a nice feel. Not a huge difference > but more responsive. I?m pleased with it. > > > > The overdrive pressure issue was solved by an uprated accumulator and > other related bits. > > You may recall that the pump would not go back in, despite my best > efforts? I thought I must be doing something wrong but gave up in the end > and drove the OD and box up to OD Spares. Dave put in a new front casing as > someone ? NOT me ? had used some ?Plastic Padding? (JB Weld?) in the area > at the top of the pump?s travel. I presume to reline a scored bore. Anyhow, > somehow or other, that stuff prevented my getting the pump back up the last > few mm. So, in effect, that half of the OD has been rebuilt. > > And it works! > > > > I?d not had the car on the road until yesterday as I?d been waiting for > the return of my handbrake from the platers. That?s back in and looks much > better than before. I even managed to adjust the handbrake cable as, > miraculously, it was all greased and nothing was jammed on the threaded > rod. > > > > What next? > > Simon > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100tech at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Mon Nov 29 12:01:36 2021 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 19:01:36 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Update on clutch woes Message-ID: <7c72ad7c243cf8d94709330a53c24972ea660d1c@webmail> Hi Simon-hope your blood pressure has come down. Yea, parts are parts, but the correct ones are most important. Additionally, anyone mucking with the OD, that doesn't know what they are doing, is trouble. Glad you are up and running-such a fine Healey it is. Enjoy your manual shifts! Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Simon Lachlan via Healeys" To: "Healeys" Cc: Sent: Monday November 29 2021 4:33:48AM Subject: [Healeys] Update on clutch woes I received a lot of help and advice with regard to the clutch problem on my MkII BT7 for which, again, many thanks. Here?s where we are:- 1) I replaced both master and slave cylinders and even converted the former to having an adjustable push rod which, mercifully, I did not have to use. No change. 2) I bled the system more times than I?ve hot dinners, as they say. No change. 3) I had the gearbox out and back 3 - or was it 4? ? times. Centring that thing to a nanomillimetere if there is such a thing. No change except to blood pressure. 4) I had fairly fruitless discussions with the supplier who assured me that ?Nothing like this has happened before?. No comment will be issued at this juncture as the lawyers say. 5) I gave up on the new kit and decided that the new clutch cover, being 10+mm higher in the centre than the old, was the likely culprit. It was indeed the culprit. Restoring the old cover cured the problem 100%. 6) I?d only swapped the clutch in the first place because I had to remove the gearbox for an overdrive issue. On inspection the old clutch parts looked pretty good and, while you?re in there?.. However, new clutch feels better than the old which is good. 7) The supplier refunded me in full thus let me keep the plate and bearing for free which was some compensation. Lightened flywheel by 14.5% off. Gives a nice feel. Not a huge difference but more responsive. I?m pleased with it. The overdrive pressure issue was solved by an uprated accumulator and other related bits. You may recall that the pump would not go back in, despite my best efforts? I thought I must be doing something wrong but gave up in the end and drove the OD and box up to OD Spares. Dave put in a new front casing as someone ? NOT me ? had used some ?Plastic Padding? (JB Weld?) in the area at the top of the pump?s travel. I presume to reline a scored bore. Anyhow, somehow or other, that stuff prevented my getting the pump back up the last few mm. So, in effect, that half of the OD has been rebuilt. And it works! I?d not had the car on the road until yesterday as I?d been waiting for the return of my handbrake from the platers. That?s back in and looks much better than before. I even managed to adjust the handbrake cable as, miraculously, it was all greased and nothing was jammed on the threaded rod. What next? Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: