[Healeys] Part III Knock offs

[Bob Spidell]

I struggled with this quandry for years (partly because I got tired of 
having all my work clothes having a circular stain on them).  As noted, 
anti-seize is intended for and most useful for threads where grease 
would get cooked off, like spark plugs; it's not intended to be a good 
lubricant, even though, like most greases, it's oil with a thickener 
(moly, lithium, etc.).  I believe even the best splined hubs will have a 
teensy bit of ratchet-like movement, and since the hubs don't get all 
that hot grease would be the better lubricant.  I usually use wheel 
bearing grease, as it's thicker, designed for warm applications and 
persistent.

Bob

On 5/10/2020 7:16 PM, Perry via Healeys wrote:
>
> My understanding is that anti seize was developed for higher 
> temperature threaded connections along with a few other things long ago..
>
> If you look at recommendations from manufacturers of splined 
> connections, like the slip joint in driveshafts, they say to use grease.
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
> Windows 10
>
> *From: *Roland Wilhelmy <mailto:sentenac.rw at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:54 PM
> *To: *Perry <mailto:healeyguy at aol.com>
> *Cc: *healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Part III Knock offs
>
> Maybe anti seize hadn't been invented when the manual was written.  
> Anti seize surely does get onto every surface once you apply it in one 
> place.
>
> -Roland
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2020, 6:48 PM Perry via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     Yes this could turn into an all familiar thread on oils however
>     lets just go back to what every factory service/workshop manual
>     all say about the maintenance or service of the wire wheel
>     splines, “A little grease should be smeared upon the splines and
>     cone faces of the hub and wheel before refitting.”
>
>     Perry
>
>     Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
>     for Windows 10
>
>     *From: *Mirek Sharp <mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
>     *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2020 7:36 PM
>     *To: *'Perry' <mailto:healeyguy at aol.com>
>
>     Perhaps a little tangential to the main thread, and fully aware of
>     the likelihood of me being accused of being pedantic (which never
>     happens on this list J), but regarding what to use on splines to
>     stop the wheel seizing on, I have never understood why the
>     recommendation is always for grease.  Grease is designed to
>     lubricate parts, whereas  the intent of applying it to the splines
>     is to prevent them seizing on, not reduce friction (i.e.,
>     lubricate).  For that reason I have always used an anti-seizing
>     product, my favourite being Permatex Copper Anti-Seize Lubricant
>     (they call it a lubricant, but woe betide anyone who actually uses
>     it to lubricate). It should be used very sparingly, and I have
>     never had an issue with a wheel sizing on the splines.  A very
>     fine smear of grease on the outside of the taper on the knock-off
>     I agree is a good thing as the intent there IS to lubricate. Also,
>     providing it is used sparingly, I have never had it seep out of
>     the hub and onto the spokes, avoiding the (in my opinion) terrible
>     practice of smearing sillycone (mis-spell intended) over the spoke
>     heads inside the hub.  Not to say grease does not work, it will,
>     but why not use a product designed for the purpose, and achieve
>     clean spokes at the same time?
>
>     Cheers, Mirek
>
>

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