From healeyguy at aol.com Sat Aug 1 05:57:12 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 07:57:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Biofuel conversion? In-Reply-To: <0618C60E-C88D-41DE-9F0D-2DB6F8CA80D6@yahoo.com> References: <0618C60E-C88D-41DE-9F0D-2DB6F8CA80D6.ref@yahoo.com> <0618C60E-C88D-41DE-9F0D-2DB6F8CA80D6@yahoo.com> Message-ID: By the way is the grille on the car in the video upside down or is it just my imagination? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: watterbury--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:56 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Biofuel conversion? Hello all, I was thinking about converting my Healey over to biofuel, what do you think about this fellow's approach? https://youtu.be/GyrN75S5Cx8 Bill Atterbury BT7 MkII -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Sat Aug 1 07:44:50 2020 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 13:44:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Biofuel conversion? In-Reply-To: <20200801115812.D4ED4A11CB@autox.team.net> References: <0618C60E-C88D-41DE-9F0D-2DB6F8CA80D6.ref@yahoo.com> <0618C60E-C88D-41DE-9F0D-2DB6F8CA80D6@yahoo.com>, <20200801115812.D4ED4A11CB@autox.team.net> Message-ID: It certainly looks upside down. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Perry via Healeys Sent: August 1, 2020 6:58 AM To: watterbury at yahoo.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Biofuel conversion? By the way is the grille on the car in the video upside down or is it just my imagination? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: watterbury--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:56 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Biofuel conversion? 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In-Reply-To: <20200801115803.D77E5A10B0@autox.team.net> References: <0618C60E-C88D-41DE-9F0D-2DB6F8CA80D6.ref@yahoo.com> <0618C60E-C88D-41DE-9F0D-2DB6F8CA80D6@yahoo.com> <20200801115803.D77E5A10B0@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Since biogas (methane derived from animal manure and other digested organic material) is considered to be a biofuel perhaps this car could run on a mice-rice mixture. Best--Michael Oritt On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 7:58 AM Perry via Healeys wrote: > By the way is the grille on the car in the video upside down or is it just > my imagination? > > > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *watterbury--- via Healeys > *Sent: *Friday, July 31, 2020 5:56 PM > *To: *healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *[Healeys] Biofuel conversion? > > > > Hello all, > > I was thinking about converting my Healey over to biofuel, what do you > think about this fellow's approach? > > > > https://youtu.be/GyrN75S5Cx8 > > > > Bill Atterbury > > BT7 MkII > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronfineesq at earthlink.net Sat Aug 1 08:54:03 2020 From: ronfineesq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 07:54:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Change in differential Message-ID: <7DE8F90BB8B04C248C085F2ADE140ACF@Inspiron660> With plenty of time on my hands I am finally getting to the oil change type of chores on my BN7. With the car up on blocks I can get to the things that need grease and was wondering if there a ?rule of thumb? for when or if to change the oil in the differential? Thanks for any suggestions. Ron Fine 61 BN7 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Sat Aug 1 08:57:23 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 14:57:23 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Biofuel conversion? In-Reply-To: References: <0618C60E-C88D-41DE-9F0D-2DB6F8CA80D6.ref@yahoo.com> <0618C60E-C88D-41DE-9F0D-2DB6F8CA80D6@yahoo.com> <20200801115803.D77E5A10B0@autox.team.net>, Message-ID: If your going to use rice it will have to be converted to Saki. I guess then you would have a true rice burner... ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Michael Oritt Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 2:00 PM To: Perry ; Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Biofuel conversion? Since biogas (methane derived from animal manure and other digested organic material) is considered to be a biofuel perhaps this car could run on a mice-rice mixture. Best--Michael Oritt On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 7:58 AM Perry via Healeys > wrote: By the way is the grille on the car in the video upside down or is it just my imagination? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: watterbury--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:56 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Biofuel conversion? Hello all, I was thinking about converting my Healey over to biofuel, what do you think about this fellow's approach? https://youtu.be/GyrN75S5Cx8 Bill Atterbury BT7 MkII _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Aug 1 09:24:42 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 08:24:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Change in differential In-Reply-To: <7DE8F90BB8B04C248C085F2ADE140ACF@Inspiron660> References: <7DE8F90BB8B04C248C085F2ADE140ACF@Inspiron660> Message-ID: <6a1bc56e-ece6-61f0-cc60-be6e13f83d18@comcast.net> The shop manual recommends every 500 miles, but you have to remove the engine first (/JK--sorta). Good question, though. Modern cars--well, 'modern' since about 1980--can supposedly go indefinitely without a diff fluid change (most have no drain so it's somewhat inconvenient to do so anyway). I think, with full-syn oil you could go 100K miles or more, even in a Healey. But, the rear axle housing has a vent and, theoretically, water could get in and if you try to ford the Mississippi you might want to check for 'milkshake' (really, I just wanted to see if I remembered how to spell 'Mississippi').? Realistically, a lot of us have rear hub seal/bearing and other issues that require a drain anyway, and trying to re-use oil is a pain so why not install fresh when this happens. If it's been a long time--or never--since you've changed it why not do it for peace of mind--and why check for crud or metal, and replace with a full-syn oil?--then never worry about it again (unless, of course, ...) Bob On 8/1/2020 7:54 AM, Ron Fine wrote: > With plenty of time on my hands I am finally getting to the oil change > type of chores on my BN7. > With the car up on blocks I can get to the things that need grease and > was wondering if there a ?rule of thumb? for when or if to change the > oil in the differential? > Thanks for any suggestions. > Ron Fine > 61 BN7 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 09:40:03 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 08:40:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Biofuel conversion? In-Reply-To: References: <0618C60E-C88D-41DE-9F0D-2DB6F8CA80D6.ref@yahoo.com> <0618C60E-C88D-41DE-9F0D-2DB6F8CA80D6@yahoo.com> <20200801115812.D4ED4A11CB@autox.team.net> Message-ID: thinks the door was locked and that screwed up the handle?? Plus the two replacement shut panels in the trunk is an interesting thing? Rust? Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:45 AM Jean Caron < vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com> wrote: > It certainly looks upside down. > > > > Jean > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Perry via Healeys > *Sent: *August 1, 2020 6:58 AM > *To: *watterbury at yahoo.com; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Biofuel conversion? > > > > By the way is the grille on the car in the video upside down or is it just > my imagination? > > > > > > Sent from Mail > > for Windows 10 > > > > *From: *watterbury--- via Healeys > *Sent: *Friday, July 31, 2020 5:56 PM > *To: *healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *[Healeys] Biofuel conversion? > > > > Hello all, > > I was thinking about converting my Healey over to biofuel, what do you > think about this fellow's approach? > > > > https://youtu.be/GyrN75S5Cx8 > > > > > Bill Atterbury > > BT7 MkII > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sat Aug 1 09:46:42 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 11:46:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Change in differential In-Reply-To: <6a1bc56e-ece6-61f0-cc60-be6e13f83d18@comcast.net> References: <6a1bc56e-ece6-61f0-cc60-be6e13f83d18@comcast.net> Message-ID: While you have it jacked up because unless you keep exceptional records the last ?change the lube date? is mixed up with the grandkids birthdays! ? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > ? The shop manual recommends every 500 miles, but you have to remove the engine first (/JK--sorta). > > Good question, though. Modern cars--well, 'modern' since about 1980--can supposedly go indefinitely without a diff fluid change (most have no drain so it's somewhat inconvenient to do so anyway). I think, with full-syn oil you could go 100K miles or more, even in a Healey. But, the rear axle housing has a vent and, theoretically, water could get in and if you try to ford the Mississippi you might want to check for 'milkshake' (really, I just wanted to see if I remembered how to spell 'Mississippi'). Realistically, a lot of us have rear hub seal/bearing and other issues that require a drain anyway, and trying to re-use oil is a pain so why not install fresh when this happens. If it's been a long time--or never--since you've changed it why not do it for peace of mind--and why check for crud or metal, and replace with a full-syn oil?--then never worry about it again (unless, of course, ...) > > Bob > >> On 8/1/2020 7:54 AM, Ron Fine wrote: >> With plenty of time on my hands I am finally getting to the oil change type of chores on my BN7. >> >> With the car up on blocks I can get to the things that need grease and was wondering if there a ?rule of thumb? for when or if to change the oil in the differential? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions. >> >> Ron Fine >> 61 BN7 >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Aug 1 12:44:35 2020 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 14:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] update---horn blowing on its' own Message-ID: <613653795.8443964.1596307475991.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> I ended up pulling the old wiring out of the tube and replacing it with new. What I found was a bare wire on the brown wire------such that when I pushed the column in it would push that bare spot up against the tube---closing the circuit and blowing the horn. All is well now.The task is a pain but really not too bad. I had to cut three of the bullets off, wrap the wire with a piece of wire and pill it thru. then reattach the bullets. (you do need another hand up above to guide it into the inner tube). I use the Flan air horns and they use a relay---I had forgotten I had a horn relay installed and couldn't figure out why I got a click but no horn when I hooked it all back up and tried to blow the horn-------short answer--the relay had quit. New relay--all is well.If you ever do this job remember that two of the 4 wire attachment posts are "floating" posts and will fall out when you remove the wire if you don't block them from behind--and THIS is bad news-----------you either spend tons of time trying tore-insert them ( using a flat small object or you take the trafficator apart in order to get them back in---not what you want to do.Thankfully mine is back together and working nicely.Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 13:11:27 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 15:11:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] update---horn blowing on its' own In-Reply-To: <613653795.8443964.1596307475991.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <613653795.8443964.1596307475991.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: One note for others doing this job ... the bullets that Tom mentions were originally "staggered" in the way they were attached to the harness. This actually allows that, after wrapping them with 1 or 2 layers of packing tape, they can be pulled through the stator tube. M On Sat., Aug. 1, 2020, 2:44 p.m. Tom Felts, wrote: > I ended up pulling the old wiring out of the tube and replacing it with > new. What I found was a bare wire on the brown wire------such that when I > pushed the column in it would push that bare spot up against the > tube---closing the circuit and blowing the horn. All is well now. > > The task is a pain but really not too bad. I had to cut three of the > bullets off, wrap the wire with a piece of wire and pill it thru. then > reattach the bullets. (you do need another hand up above to guide it into > the inner tube). > > I use the Flan air horns and they use a relay---I had forgotten I had a > horn relay installed and couldn't figure out why I got a click but no horn > when I hooked it all back up and tried to blow the horn-------short > answer--the relay had quit. New relay--all is well. > > If you ever do this job remember that two of the 4 wire attachment posts > are "floating" posts and will fall out when you remove the wire if you > don't block them from behind--and THIS is bad news-----------you either > spend tons of time trying tore-insert them ( using a flat small object or > you take the trafficator apart in order to get them back in---not what you > want to do. > > Thankfully mine is back together and working nicely. > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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No backfires...bit of popping on the overrun downhill, nothing spectacular. Any ideas? I'm thinking mixture but unsure as to which way to go and unwilling to wreck what seem to be good settings.. Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ah100register at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 14:02:45 2020 From: ah100register at gmail.com (John Harper) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 21:02:45 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] update---horn blowing on its' own In-Reply-To: <613653795.8443964.1596307475991.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <613653795.8443964.1596307475991.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: Tom One can sometimes leave the bullitts on but they have to stagard. If there is no wire in the tube then find something, long, heavy and around 3/16" diameter, this should drop down the stator tube fairly easily taking a fine thread with it. Then attach the thread to the longest bullitt wire and wrap up the rest with very thin tape. It should then be possible to pull the cable through. I have seen a number of old cables that have this stagger but I suspect that the suppliers of new cables don't always realise that there is a reason for the bullets being staggered On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 19:44, Tom Felts wrote: > I ended up pulling the old wiring out of the tube and replacing it with > new. What I found was a bare wire on the brown wire------such that when I > pushed the column in it would push that bare spot up against the > tube---closing the circuit and blowing the horn. All is well now. > > The task is a pain but really not too bad. I had to cut three of the > bullets off, wrap the wire with a piece of wire and pill it thru. then > reattach the bullets. (you do need another hand up above to guide it into > the inner tube). > > I use the Flan air horns and they use a relay---I had forgotten I had a > horn relay installed and couldn't figure out why I got a click but no horn > when I hooked it all back up and tried to blow the horn-------short > answer--the relay had quit. New relay--all is well. > > If you ever do this job remember that two of the 4 wire attachment posts > are "floating" posts and will fall out when you remove the wire if you > don't block them from behind--and THIS is bad news-----------you either > spend tons of time trying tore-insert them ( using a flat small object or > you take the trafficator apart in order to get them back in---not what you > want to do. > > Thankfully mine is back together and working nicely. > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com > > -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From warthodson at aol.com Sat Aug 1 15:47:38 2020 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 21:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 100 throttle linkage References: <882512480.197084.1596318458829.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <882512480.197084.1596318458829@mail.yahoo.com> I am beginning to mocking up the the throttle linkage on my '53 100 & I have some questions. I have two modifications that will impact your answers. I have a Denis Welch exhaust header & & pair of HS6 carbs on DW intake manifolds. I would like to see photographs illustrating how the 90 degree bell crank is mounted on the DW header & what you have done for the small center heat shield associated with the bell crank. I.E. Did you modify the original heat shield & if so how is it mounted or did you make a completely new heat shield? This the heat shield that is approx. 4"X 6".?Also, what did you do for a Carb. heat shield? Photos would be great!By the way, I am a little disappointed by the DW exhaust manifold. The 4 bolt holds in the 2 into 1 manifold do not line up with the bolt holes in the head. Some ovaling out will be required. Also, I have found a pin sized hole in the weld between the mounting plate & the header pipe which would let exhaust gas leak out. I will have it welded closed. I am glad I found this during the mock up & not after final installation!Gary Hodson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I had to cut three of the > bullets off, wrap the wire with a piece of wire and pill it thru. then > reattach the bullets. (you do need another hand up above to guide it into > the inner tube). > > I use the Flan air horns and they use a relay---I had forgotten I had a > horn relay installed and couldn't figure out why I got a click but no horn > when I hooked it all back up and tried to blow the horn-------short > answer--the relay had quit. New relay--all is well. > > If you ever do this job remember that two of the 4 wire attachment posts > are "floating" posts and will fall out when you remove the wire if you > don't block them from behind--and THIS is bad news-----------you either > spend tons of time trying tore-insert them ( using a flat small object or > you take the trafficator apart in order to get them back in---not what you > want to do. > > Thankfully mine is back together and working nicely. > Tom > _______________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Let?s just say the Healey are not his forte. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of i erbs Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 3:40 PM To: Jean Caron Cc: watterbury at yahoo.com ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Biofuel conversion? thinks the door was locked and that screwed up the handle?? Plus the two replacement shut panels in the trunk is an interesting thing? Rust? Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:45 AM Jean Caron > wrote: It certainly looks upside down. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Perry via Healeys Sent: August 1, 2020 6:58 AM To: watterbury at yahoo.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Biofuel conversion? 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Name: How to Wire a Control Head without Disassembling the Unit.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 499274 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 13:13:40 2020 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 12:13:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] update---horn blowing on its' own In-Reply-To: References: <613653795.8443964.1596307475991.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: Listers, Some folks could not open the document I sent in Word Format, so here is the PDF version. Cheers, Curt On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Curtis Arndt wrote: > Tom, > > This is why when I restore a trafficator switch, and the owner wants to > wire it himself, I include the attached instructions. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:45 AM Tom Felts wrote: > >> I ended up pulling the old wiring out of the tube and replacing it with >> new. What I found was a bare wire on the brown wire------such that when I >> pushed the column in it would push that bare spot up against the >> tube---closing the circuit and blowing the horn. All is well now. >> >> The task is a pain but really not too bad. I had to cut three of the >> bullets off, wrap the wire with a piece of wire and pill it thru. then >> reattach the bullets. (you do need another hand up above to guide it into >> the inner tube). >> >> I use the Flan air horns and they use a relay---I had forgotten I had a >> horn relay installed and couldn't figure out why I got a click but no horn >> when I hooked it all back up and tried to blow the horn-------short >> answer--the relay had quit. New relay--all is well. >> >> If you ever do this job remember that two of the 4 wire attachment posts >> are "floating" posts and will fall out when you remove the wire if you >> don't block them from behind--and THIS is bad news-----------you either >> spend tons of time trying tore-insert them ( using a flat small object or >> you take the trafficator apart in order to get them back in---not what you >> want to do. >> >> Thankfully mine is back together and working nicely. >> Tom >> _______________________________________________ >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: How to Wire a Control Head without Disassembling the Unit.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 499274 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Aug 2 14:02:19 2020 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (ahbn6 at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 16:02:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: update---horn blowing on its' own In-Reply-To: References: <613653795.8443964.1596307475991.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: <001a01d66907$d4411190$7cc334b0$@verizon.net> Entry on my site has been corrected. It is now in pdf format. Thanks Curt. John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ From: Healeys On Behalf Of Curtis Arndt Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 3:14 PM To: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] update---horn blowing on its' own Listers, Some folks could not open the document I sent in Word Format, so here is the PDF version. Cheers, Curt On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Curtis Arndt > wrote: Tom, This is why when I restore a trafficator switch, and the owner wants to wire it himself, I include the attached instructions. Cheers, Curt On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:45 AM Tom Felts > wrote: I ended up pulling the old wiring out of the tube and replacing it with new. What I found was a bare wire on the brown wire------such that when I pushed the column in it would push that bare spot up against the tube---closing the circuit and blowing the horn. All is well now. The task is a pain but really not too bad. I had to cut three of the bullets off, wrap the wire with a piece of wire and pill it thru. then reattach the bullets. (you do need another hand up above to guide it into the inner tube). I use the Flan air horns and they use a relay---I had forgotten I had a horn relay installed and couldn't figure out why I got a click but no horn when I hooked it all back up and tried to blow the horn-------short answer--the relay had quit. New relay--all is well. If you ever do this job remember that two of the 4 wire attachment posts are "floating" posts and will fall out when you remove the wire if you don't block them from behind--and THIS is bad news-----------you either spend tons of time trying tore-insert them ( using a flat small object or you take the trafficator apart in order to get them back in---not what you want to do. Thankfully mine is back together and working nicely. Tom _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Charlie ----- Original Message ----- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc at knology.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks. > >Regards, > >Charlie > >----- Original Message ----- > > >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc at knology.net > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From llennep at verizon.net Mon Aug 3 08:30:44 2020 From: llennep at verizon.net (Keith Pennell) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 14:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Wiring harness free In-Reply-To: <754021931.10765204.1596380845867@mail.yahoo.com> References: <754021931.10765204.1596380845867.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <754021931.10765204.1596380845867@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1182226204.11159806.1596465044036@mail.yahoo.com> Listers,The BN7 har is spoken for but the second one is still available.? The less complete one is still available for $25. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Pennell via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Aug 2, 2020 11:07 am Subject: [Healeys] Wiring harness free For just S&H - a complete(?) oriignal harness removed from a BN7.? It has numerous bulb sockets and a few push connectors.? It is not usable as is but could supply some needed parts.?? Cost $25 which includes boxing and shipping to lower 48 from 23602.? First come first served. I also have another less compete harness taken from a BJ8 I think it was.? Still mostly there though with bulb sockets and such.? Also $25 to lower 48 from 23602.Keith_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 08:35:19 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 10:35:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Helmeted Battery Cables In-Reply-To: References: <2007731234.127656.1596463063080.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net> Message-ID: This is what Rhode Island Wiring sell. M On Mon., Aug. 3, 2020, 10:18 a.m. , wrote: > Rhode Island Wiring has pretty good ones. > > -Roland > > On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 09:57:43 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > > >Several months ago someone posted the name of a company that can supply > battery cables with helmented terminal connectors. Would you please repeat > who that company is? Thanks. > > > >Regards, > > > >Charlie > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > >Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > >Healeys at autox.team.net > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc at knology.net > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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David Nock British Car Specialists 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com From: Michael Salter Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 7:35 AM To: Roland Wilhelmy Cc: Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Helmeted Battery Cables This is what Rhode Island Wiring sell. M On Mon., Aug. 3, 2020, 10:18 a.m. , wrote: Rhode Island Wiring has pretty good ones. -Roland On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 09:57:43 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Several months ago someone posted the name of a company that can supply battery cables with helmented terminal connectors. Would you please repeat who that company is? 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Thanks all-very productive email site to distribute good info, Hank (photos attached) -----------------------------------------From: "Michael Salter" To: "Roland Wilhelmy" Cc: "Austin Healey" Sent: Monday August 3 2020 7:37:43AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Helmeted Battery Cables This is what Rhode Island Wiring sell. M On Mon., Aug. 3, 2020, 10:18 a.m. , wrote: Rhode Island Wiring has pretty good ones. -Roland On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 09:57:43 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Several months ago someone posted the name of a company that can supply battery cables with helmented terminal connectors. Would you please repeat who that company is? 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I?ve located radios available from Moss but what do folks use for speakers and their placement? Yes I know radios are not necessary in a Healey but she is younger and what does a dad do. Bob BT7 Sent from my iPhone From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Aug 4 10:01:27 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 09:01:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Radio speakers In-Reply-To: <2246001B-2852-407E-A149-90534A5FB465@yahoo.com> References: <2246001B-2852-407E-A149-90534A5FB465.ref@yahoo.com> <2246001B-2852-407E-A149-90534A5FB465@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19adfe7b-17fa-969b-75b5-91bb6624573e@comcast.net> My BJ8 has an original BMC radio, I got a replacement speaker from Radio Shack (I know, lotta help).? I think the dia. was 6" but not sure (it's about the same width as the radio). But, because it's still positive ground the music comes out backwards* (Paul IS dead). Wow, this may be harder than thought; the usual searches don't turn up much for a 'bare' speaker (you get mostly Bluetooth and stereo speakers). I think a young(er) person will be really disappointed with the sound; as they're used to ear buds and headphones. * Only (half) kidding, of course. It's pretty amazing how some people have a lot of trouble coming to grips with pos. gnd. My friend who bought an MG-T keeps calling it 'reverse polarity' which is true enough, I guess. My BFF who bought my dad's '55 T-Bird--6V, pos. gnd.--finally came to grips with 'Oh, you just hook up the positive terminal to the chassis.' Bob On 8/4/2020 8:43 AM, ROBERT BROWN via Healeys wrote: > I?ve been asked by a non-list BJ8 owner about radios and speakers for her car. > I?ve located radios available from Moss but what do folks use for speakers and their placement? > Yes I know radios are not necessary in a Healey but she is younger and what does a dad do. > Bob > BT7 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > > From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Aug 4 10:10:00 2020 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 18:10:00 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Radio speakers In-Reply-To: <2246001B-2852-407E-A149-90534A5FB465@yahoo.com> References: <2246001B-2852-407E-A149-90534A5FB465.ref@yahoo.com> <2246001B-2852-407E-A149-90534A5FB465@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3bcb0a65-7d9e-5bcc-809f-78ff4d095eae@chello.nl> If you get a period radio these are rarely more than 5-7W per channel (if there are 2 channels at all). Do not get speakers that are capable of more than 15-20W peak as more will give you a bad sound quality and lower volume. Take care that the impedance of the speakers match the radio. The impedance required is usually 8 Ohms, some 4 Ohms. An impedance lower than advised may damage the radio. If you get a modern digital (classic look) radio match the speakers to the output and impedance required. Always use two wires per speaker from the radio to the speakers, do not use earth for one of the wires. Do not go for top notch quality speakers. That will be a waste as there is to much back ground noise from the car. A very powerful radio, say around a 100W, will be an extra strain on your alternator/generator. There are plenty of good period radio's with FM available at specialised dealers or on eBay (I have a collection of about 400 according to SWMBO) Kees Oudesluijs Op 4-8-2020 om 17:43 schreef ROBERT BROWN via Healeys: > I?ve been asked by a non-list BJ8 owner about radios and speakers for her car. > I?ve located radios available from Moss but what do folks use for speakers and their placement? > Yes I know radios are not necessary in a Healey but she is younger and what does a dad do. > Bob > BT7 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Aug 4 10:11:53 2020 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 18:11:53 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Radio speakers In-Reply-To: <19adfe7b-17fa-969b-75b5-91bb6624573e@comcast.net> References: <2246001B-2852-407E-A149-90534A5FB465.ref@yahoo.com> <2246001B-2852-407E-A149-90534A5FB465@yahoo.com> <19adfe7b-17fa-969b-75b5-91bb6624573e@comcast.net> Message-ID: There are period dual polarity radio's with FM around. Kees Oudesluijs Op 4-8-2020 om 18:01 schreef Bob Spidell: > My BJ8 has an original BMC radio, I got a replacement speaker from > Radio Shack (I know, lotta help).? I think the dia. was 6" but not > sure (it's about the same width as the radio). But, because it's still > positive ground the music comes out backwards* (Paul IS dead). > > Wow, this may be harder than thought; the usual searches don't turn up > much for a 'bare' speaker (you get mostly Bluetooth and stereo > speakers). I think a young(er) person will be really disappointed with > the sound; as they're used to ear buds and headphones. > > * Only (half) kidding, of course. It's pretty amazing how some people > have a lot of trouble coming to grips with pos. gnd. My friend who > bought an MG-T keeps calling it 'reverse polarity' which is true > enough, I guess. My BFF who bought my dad's '55 T-Bird--6V, pos. > gnd.--finally came to grips with 'Oh, you just hook up the positive > terminal to the chassis.' > > Bob > > > On 8/4/2020 8:43 AM, ROBERT BROWN via Healeys wrote: >> I?ve been asked by a non-list BJ8 owner about radios and speakers for >> her car. >> I?ve located radios available from Moss but what do folks use for >> speakers and their placement? >> Yes I know radios are not necessary in a Healey but she is younger >> and what does a dad do. >> Bob >> BT7 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > From tfsbj7 at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 10:31:28 2020 From: tfsbj7 at gmail.com (Skip Saunders) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 12:31:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radio speakers In-Reply-To: References: <2246001B-2852-407E-A149-90534A5FB465.ref@yahoo.com> <2246001B-2852-407E-A149-90534A5FB465@yahoo.com> <19adfe7b-17fa-969b-75b5-91bb6624573e@comcast.net> Message-ID: In my restoration of "Gladys", I removed the original radio with attached speaker from in front of the center console and replaced it with an air conditioning system.... since I have no room left for a speaker, I am (not yet completed) going to install a bluetooth radio which allows cell phone or any other source device to connect to the sound system of the car. I've found a small bluetooth unit, and am going to wire speakers the same place I used in 1966 for my 1963 Healey: the footwells :-). There is a lot of room up under the passenger side footwell (where the pedal box would be located for a RHD car, and a great sounding woofer can be placed there. Smaller speakers can be mounted on either side of the center console for the mid-range and high range tones. When driving, the sound system is most likely turned off...however when the car is parked for a picnic (etc.), it is pleasant to have some nice tunes playing :-) At least, that was what I was doing in the 1960's :-). On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:12 PM Kees Oudesluijs wrote: > There are period dual polarity radio's with FM around. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > Op 4-8-2020 om 18:01 schreef Bob Spidell: > > My BJ8 has an original BMC radio, I got a replacement speaker from > > Radio Shack (I know, lotta help). I think the dia. was 6" but not > > sure (it's about the same width as the radio). But, because it's still > > positive ground the music comes out backwards* (Paul IS dead). > > > > Wow, this may be harder than thought; the usual searches don't turn up > > much for a 'bare' speaker (you get mostly Bluetooth and stereo > > speakers). I think a young(er) person will be really disappointed with > > the sound; as they're used to ear buds and headphones. > > > > * Only (half) kidding, of course. It's pretty amazing how some people > > have a lot of trouble coming to grips with pos. gnd. My friend who > > bought an MG-T keeps calling it 'reverse polarity' which is true > > enough, I guess. My BFF who bought my dad's '55 T-Bird--6V, pos. > > gnd.--finally came to grips with 'Oh, you just hook up the positive > > terminal to the chassis.' > > > > Bob > > > > > > On 8/4/2020 8:43 AM, ROBERT BROWN via Healeys wrote: > >> I?ve been asked by a non-list BJ8 owner about radios and speakers for > >> her car. > >> I?ve located radios available from Moss but what do folks use for > >> speakers and their placement? > >> Yes I know radios are not necessary in a Healey but she is younger > >> and what does a dad do. > >> Bob > >> BT7 > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tfsbj7 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Battery powered and portable. Use it in the car, use it on the deck, use it at work. https://www.anker.com/products/variant/soundcore-bluetooth-speaker/A3102011 Or small bluetooth amp and speakers, if you want the hassle of installing them. Amp. This was from a google search. I have no experience with this one; it's just an example. Small enough to fit anywhere. https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Stereo-Mini-Amplifier/dp/B07W46QV5J/ Speakers. Do you want to cut up your door cards to make an opening for speakers? If so, just about any speaker from Crutchfield should be good enough. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Aug 4 21:00:25 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 20:00:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup Message-ID: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> Listers, Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd squashed with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got good pedal after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the front left locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can remember, but as I don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. But, now I'm wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, obviously, so why would one squeeze harder than the other? Bob From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Aug 4 22:18:50 2020 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 06:18:50 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup In-Reply-To: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> References: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> Message-ID: Sounds like one of the calipers is (partly) seized. The car is probably pulling to one side as well under normal braking. An overhaul of the calipers and new pads would probably sort it. Also check the discs. If you have a dual brake circuit fitted which is split in circuits with one front and the opposite rear brake, check the Pressure Differential Valve or Pressure Differential Warning Actuator (PDWA). The plunjer should be central but can get dislodged after leakage or bleeding the brakes. But first check the tyre pressures. Kees Oudesluijs Op 5-8-2020 om 05:00 schreef Bob Spidell: > Listers, > > Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd squashed > with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got good pedal > after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the front left > locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can remember, but as I > don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. But, now I'm > wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, obviously, so > why would one squeeze harder than the other? > > Bob > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Aug 4 22:50:42 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:50:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup In-Reply-To: References: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6b2eff16-2458-d607-018d-3e9afa1ebdc0@comcast.net> Thanks, Kees. The car's brakes are stock BJ8; i.e. single circuit. It pulls down straight, but locks the front left only. I replaced pads and rotors about 4 years/20K miles ago, and the old gear looked to be pretty evenly worn. The right rear line was the one that was pinched, and I thought for sure that would cure the lock-up; it did pull before I replaced the line, but I don't remember the direction (pull to the right would have been expected, I think). I'll take a look at the pads and rotors when I get a chance. On 8/4/2020 9:18 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: > Sounds like one of the calipers is (partly) seized. The car is > probably pulling to one side as well under normal braking. An overhaul > of the calipers and new pads would probably sort it. Also check the > discs. > > If you have a dual brake circuit fitted which is split in circuits > with one front and the opposite rear brake, check the Pressure > Differential Valve or Pressure Differential Warning Actuator (PDWA). > The plunjer should be central but can get dislodged after leakage or > bleeding the brakes. > > But first check the tyre pressures. > > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > Op 5-8-2020 om 05:00 schreef Bob Spidell: >> Listers, >> >> Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd squashed >> with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got good pedal >> after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the front left >> locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can remember, but as I >> don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. But, now >> I'm wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, obviously, >> so why would one squeeze harder than the other? >> >> Bob >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > From sentenac.rw at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 22:57:28 2020 From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com (sentenac.rw at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 21:57:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup In-Reply-To: <6b2eff16-2458-d607-018d-3e9afa1ebdc0@comcast.net> References: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> <6b2eff16-2458-d607-018d-3e9afa1ebdc0@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob, could there still be some debris in the right front brake line that keeps the right brake from being as effective as the left? Or an internally frayed flex line to the right brake? -Roland On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:50:42 -0700, you wrote: >Thanks, Kees. The car's brakes are stock BJ8; i.e. single circuit. It >pulls down straight, but locks the front left only. I replaced pads and >rotors about 4 years/20K miles ago, and the old gear looked to be pretty >evenly worn. The right rear line was the one that was pinched, and I >thought for sure that would cure the lock-up; it did pull before I >replaced the line, but I don't remember the direction (pull to the right >would have been expected, I think). > >I'll take a look at the pads and rotors when I get a chance. > > >On 8/4/2020 9:18 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: >> Sounds like one of the calipers is (partly) seized. The car is >> probably pulling to one side as well under normal braking. An overhaul >> of the calipers and new pads would probably sort it. Also check the >> discs. >> >> If you have a dual brake circuit fitted which is split in circuits >> with one front and the opposite rear brake, check the Pressure >> Differential Valve or Pressure Differential Warning Actuator (PDWA). >> The plunjer should be central but can get dislodged after leakage or >> bleeding the brakes. >> >> But first check the tyre pressures. >> >> >> Kees Oudesluijs >> >> >> >> Op 5-8-2020 om 05:00 schreef Bob Spidell: >>> Listers, >>> >>> Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd squashed >>> with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got good pedal >>> after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the front left >>> locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can remember, but as I >>> don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. But, now >>> I'm wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, obviously, >>> so why would one squeeze harder than the other? >>> >>> Bob >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> > >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Aug 4 23:05:37 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 22:05:37 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup In-Reply-To: References: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> <6b2eff16-2458-d607-018d-3e9afa1ebdc0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1e24ac55-aea4-5910-eb76-f9b4b6547a21@comcast.net> Flex lines are only a couple years old, and the hard lines are fairly fresh cupro-nickel. You got me thinking, though, the RF hard line may have a slight kink (they're both coiled). I'll check it out. Bob On 8/4/2020 9:57 PM, sentenac.rw at gmail.com wrote: > Bob, could there still be some debris in the right front brake line > that keeps the right brake from being as effective as the left? Or an > internally frayed flex line to the right brake? > > -Roland > > On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:50:42 -0700, you wrote: > >> Thanks, Kees. The car's brakes are stock BJ8; i.e. single circuit. It >> pulls down straight, but locks the front left only. I replaced pads and >> rotors about 4 years/20K miles ago, and the old gear looked to be pretty >> evenly worn. The right rear line was the one that was pinched, and I >> thought for sure that would cure the lock-up; it did pull before I >> replaced the line, but I don't remember the direction (pull to the right >> would have been expected, I think). >> >> I'll take a look at the pads and rotors when I get a chance. >> >> >> On 8/4/2020 9:18 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: >>> Sounds like one of the calipers is (partly) seized. The car is >>> probably pulling to one side as well under normal braking. An overhaul >>> of the calipers and new pads would probably sort it. Also check the >>> discs. >>> >>> If you have a dual brake circuit fitted which is split in circuits >>> with one front and the opposite rear brake, check the Pressure >>> Differential Valve or Pressure Differential Warning Actuator (PDWA). >>> The plunjer should be central but can get dislodged after leakage or >>> bleeding the brakes. >>> >>> But first check the tyre pressures. >>> >>> >>> Kees Oudesluijs >>> >>> >>> >>> Op 5-8-2020 om 05:00 schreef Bob Spidell: >>>> Listers, >>>> >>>> Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd squashed >>>> with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got good pedal >>>> after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the front left >>>> locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can remember, but as I >>>> don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. But, now >>>> I'm wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, obviously, >>>> so why would one squeeze harder than the other? >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com >> From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Aug 5 10:27:35 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 16:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup In-Reply-To: <1e24ac55-aea4-5910-eb76-f9b4b6547a21@comcast.net> References: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> <6b2eff16-2458-d607-018d-3e9afa1ebdc0@comcast.net> <1e24ac55-aea4-5910-eb76-f9b4b6547a21@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1619560074.379053.1596644855425@mail.yahoo.com> Maybe the right caliper was fluid starved for so long that is froze in place or at least is binding up for that reason.? If all the brake lines are clear, the only thing left is the caliper.? Sounds like time for a rebuild.? Just my two cents.Mike MacLean On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:07:19 PM PDT, Bob Spidell wrote: Flex lines are only a couple years old, and the hard lines are fairly fresh cupro-nickel. You got me thinking, though, the RF hard line may have a slight kink (they're both coiled). I'll check it out. Bob On 8/4/2020 9:57 PM, sentenac.rw at gmail.com wrote: > Bob, could there still be some debris in the right front brake line > that keeps the right brake from being as effective as the left?? Or an > internally frayed flex line to the right brake? > > -Roland > > On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:50:42 -0700, you wrote: > >> Thanks, Kees. The car's brakes are stock BJ8; i.e. single circuit. It >> pulls down straight, but locks the front left only. I replaced pads and >> rotors about 4 years/20K miles ago, and the old gear looked to be pretty >> evenly worn. The right rear line was the one that was pinched, and I >> thought for sure that would cure the lock-up; it did pull before I >> replaced the line, but I don't remember the direction (pull to the right >> would have been expected, I think). >> >> I'll take a look at the pads and rotors when I get a chance. >> >> >> On 8/4/2020 9:18 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: >>> Sounds like one of the calipers is (partly) seized. The car is >>> probably pulling to one side as well under normal braking. An overhaul >>> of the calipers and new pads would probably sort it. Also check the >>> discs. >>> >>> If you have a dual brake circuit fitted which is split in circuits >>> with one front and the opposite rear brake, check the Pressure >>> Differential Valve or Pressure Differential Warning Actuator (PDWA). >>> The plunjer should be central but can get dislodged after leakage or >>> bleeding the brakes. >>> >>> But first check the tyre pressures. >>> >>> >>> Kees Oudesluijs >>> >>> >>> >>> Op 5-8-2020 om 05:00 schreef Bob Spidell: >>>> Listers, >>>> >>>> Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd squashed >>>> with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got good pedal >>>> after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the front left >>>> locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can remember, but as I >>>> don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. But, now >>>> I'm wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, obviously, >>>> so why would one squeeze harder than the other? >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Aug 5 10:59:49 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 09:59:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup In-Reply-To: <1619560074.379053.1596644855425@mail.yahoo.com> References: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> <6b2eff16-2458-d607-018d-3e9afa1ebdc0@comcast.net> <1e24ac55-aea4-5910-eb76-f9b4b6547a21@comcast.net> <1619560074.379053.1596644855425@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Your $0.02 is appreciated. Rotors and pads were replaced not too long ago, but it's probably been 20 years since I rebuilt the calipers. Bob On 8/5/2020 9:27 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: > Maybe the right caliper was fluid starved for so long that is froze in > place or at least is binding up for that reason. If all the brake > lines are clear, the only thing left is the caliper.? Sounds like time > for a rebuild.? Just my two cents. > Mike MacLean > On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:07:19 PM PDT, Bob Spidell > wrote: > > > Flex lines are only a couple years old, and the hard lines are fairly > fresh cupro-nickel. You got me thinking, though, the RF hard line may > have a slight kink (they're both coiled). I'll check it out. > > Bob > > On 8/4/2020 9:57 PM, sentenac.rw at gmail.com > wrote: > > Bob, could there still be some debris in the right front brake line > > that keeps the right brake from being as effective as the left?? Or an > > internally frayed flex line to the right brake? > > > > -Roland > > > > On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:50:42 -0700, you wrote: > > > >> Thanks, Kees. The car's brakes are stock BJ8; i.e. single circuit. It > >> pulls down straight, but locks the front left only. I replaced pads and > >> rotors about 4 years/20K miles ago, and the old gear looked to be > pretty > >> evenly worn. The right rear line was the one that was pinched, and I > >> thought for sure that would cure the lock-up; it did pull before I > >> replaced the line, but I don't remember the direction (pull to the > right > >> would have been expected, I think). > >> > >> I'll take a look at the pads and rotors when I get a chance. > >> > >> > >> On 8/4/2020 9:18 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: > >>> Sounds like one of the calipers is (partly) seized. The car is > >>> probably pulling to one side as well under normal braking. An overhaul > >>> of the calipers and new pads would probably sort it. Also check the > >>> discs. > >>> > >>> If you have a dual brake circuit fitted which is split in circuits > >>> with one front and the opposite rear brake, check the Pressure > >>> Differential Valve or Pressure Differential Warning Actuator (PDWA). > >>> The plunjer should be central but can get dislodged after leakage or > >>> bleeding the brakes. > >>> > >>> But first check the tyre pressures. > >>> > >>> > >>> Kees Oudesluijs > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Op 5-8-2020 om 05:00 schreef Bob Spidell: > >>>> Listers, > >>>> > >>>> Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd squashed > >>>> with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got good pedal > >>>> after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the front left > >>>> locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can remember, but as I > >>>> don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. But, now > >>>> I'm wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, obviously, > >>>> so why would one squeeze harder than the other? > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > >>>> > >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive > >>>> > >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net > >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >>>> > >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > >>> > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > >>> http://autox.team.net/archive > >>> > >>> Healeys at autox.team.net > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >>> > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > >> > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > >> > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >> > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Wed Aug 5 18:46:33 2020 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 17:46:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Radio speakers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This Austin Healey BMC radio is for sale on our local Craigslist: https://vancouver.craigslist.org/nvn/pts/d/north-vancouver-east-central-ausi tn/7153151443.html _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kent McLean Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 11:39 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radio speakers Bob Brown wrote: I?ve been asked by a non-list BJ8 owner about radios and speakers for her car. I?ve located radios available from Moss but what do folks use for speakers and their placement? Yes I know radios are not necessary in a Healey but she is younger and what does a dad do. If she is that young, Bluetooth from her smartphone to a powered speaker or to a small amp and speakers. Then she can play Pandora or Spotify or any music on her phone. No need to listen to a DJ spinning ads. Powered speakers: I have one of these. I'm amazed at the sound, treble and bass, that comes from such a small device. Bluetooth connect your phone to it and you have great sound. Battery powered and portable. Use it in the car, use it on the deck, use it at work. https://www.anker.com/products/variant/soundcore-bluetooth-speaker/A3102011 Or small bluetooth amp and speakers, if you want the hassle of installing them. Amp. This was from a google search. I have no experience with this one; it's just an example. Small enough to fit anywhere. https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Stereo-Mini-Amplifier/dp/B07W46QV5 J/ Speakers. Do you want to cut up your door cards to make an opening for speakers? If so, just about any speaker from Crutchfield should be good enough. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Wed Aug 5 18:54:04 2020 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 17:54:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup In-Reply-To: References: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> <6b2eff16-2458-d607-018d-3e9afa1ebdc0@comcast.net> <1e24ac55-aea4-5910-eb76-f9b4b6547a21@comcast.net> <1619560074.379053.1596644855425@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You should be able to judge if the callipers are apply even pressure to the disk by the wear pattern on each side of the disk. If the wear is even and the surfaces look very similar likely the pads are not seized. Don't rule out air in the brake line. Are the flex hoses rubber or stainless steel braid? You may have a flex hose that is expanding due to pressure in the brake line. Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2020 10:00 AM To: Michael MacLean; Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Lockup Your $0.02 is appreciated. Rotors and pads were replaced not too long ago, but it's probably been 20 years since I rebuilt the calipers. Bob On 8/5/2020 9:27 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: Maybe the right caliper was fluid starved for so long that is froze in place or at least is binding up for that reason. If all the brake lines are clear, the only thing left is the caliper. Sounds like time for a rebuild. Just my two cents. Mike MacLean On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:07:19 PM PDT, Bob Spidell wrote: Flex lines are only a couple years old, and the hard lines are fairly fresh cupro-nickel. You got me thinking, though, the RF hard line may have a slight kink (they're both coiled). I'll check it out. Bob On 8/4/2020 9:57 PM, sentenac.rw at gmail.com wrote: > Bob, could there still be some debris in the right front brake line > that keeps the right brake from being as effective as the left? Or an > internally frayed flex line to the right brake? > > -Roland > > On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:50:42 -0700, you wrote: > >> Thanks, Kees. The car's brakes are stock BJ8; i.e. single circuit. It >> pulls down straight, but locks the front left only. I replaced pads and >> rotors about 4 years/20K miles ago, and the old gear looked to be pretty >> evenly worn. The right rear line was the one that was pinched, and I >> thought for sure that would cure the lock-up; it did pull before I >> replaced the line, but I don't remember the direction (pull to the right >> would have been expected, I think). >> >> I'll take a look at the pads and rotors when I get a chance. >> >> >> On 8/4/2020 9:18 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: >>> Sounds like one of the calipers is (partly) seized. The car is >>> probably pulling to one side as well under normal braking. An overhaul >>> of the calipers and new pads would probably sort it. Also check the >>> discs. >>> >>> If you have a dual brake circuit fitted which is split in circuits >>> with one front and the opposite rear brake, check the Pressure >>> Differential Valve or Pressure Differential Warning Actuator (PDWA). >>> The plunjer should be central but can get dislodged after leakage or >>> bleeding the brakes. >>> >>> But first check the tyre pressures. >>> >>> >>> Kees Oudesluijs >>> >>> >>> >>> Op 5-8-2020 om 05:00 schreef Bob Spidell: >>>> Listers, >>>> >>>> Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd squashed >>>> with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got good pedal >>>> after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the front left >>>> locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can remember, but as I >>>> don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. But, now >>>> I'm wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, obviously, >>>> so why would one squeeze harder than the other? >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So did I ;) On 8/5/2020 5:46 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: > This Austin Healey BMC radio is for sale on our local Craigslist: > https://vancouver.craigslist.org/nvn/pts/d/north-vancouver-east-central-ausitn/7153151443.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of > *Kent McLean > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2020 11:39 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Radio speakers > > Bob Brown wrote: >> I?ve been asked by a non-list BJ8 owner about radios and speakers for >> her car. >> I?ve located radios available from Moss but what do folks use for >> speakers and their placement? >> Yes I know radios are not necessary in a Healey but she is younger >> and what does a dad do. > > If she is that young, Bluetooth from her smartphone to a powered > speaker or to a small amp and speakers. Then she can play Pandora or > Spotify or any music on her phone. No need to listen to a DJ spinning ads. > > Powered speakers: I have one of these. I'm amazed at the sound, treble > and bass, that comes from such a small device. Bluetooth connect your > phone to it and you have great sound. Battery powered and portable. > Use it in the car, use it on the deck, use it at work. > https://www.anker.com/products/variant/soundcore-bluetooth-speaker/A3102011 > > Or small bluetooth amp and speakers, if you want the hassle of > installing them. > Amp. This was from a google search. I have no experience with this > one; it's just an example. Small enough to fit anywhere. > https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Stereo-Mini-Amplifier/dp/B07W46QV5J/ > > Speakers. Do you want to cut up your door cards to make an opening for > speakers? If so, just about any speaker from Crutchfield should be > good enough. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Aug 5 20:26:30 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 19:26:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup In-Reply-To: References: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> <6b2eff16-2458-d607-018d-3e9afa1ebdc0@comcast.net> <1e24ac55-aea4-5910-eb76-f9b4b6547a21@comcast.net> <1619560074.379053.1596644855425@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Flex lines are 'normal' rubber; but fairly new. I checked the hard line today; no kinks (my memory was playing tricks again). It pulls down straight; looks like replacing the kinked RR hard line might have helped (ya' think, Bob?). I'll pull the wheels and have a look at pads and rotors; might be a while as I'm starting to think about harvest. Bob On 8/5/2020 5:54 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: > You should be able to judge if the callipers are apply even pressure > to the disk by the wear pattern on each side of the disk. If the wear > is even and the surfaces look very similar likely the pads are not > seized. Don't rule out air in the brake line. Are the flex hoses > rubber or stainless steel braid? You may have a flex hose that is > expanding due to pressure in the brake line. > Harold > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of > *Bob Spidell > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 05, 2020 10:00 AM > *To:* Michael MacLean; Austin Healey > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Lockup > > Your $0.02 is appreciated. Rotors and pads were replaced not too long > ago, but it's probably been 20 years since I rebuilt the calipers. > > Bob > > On 8/5/2020 9:27 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: >> Maybe the right caliper was fluid starved for so long that is froze >> in place or at least is binding up for that reason.? If all the brake >> lines are clear, the only thing left is the caliper.? Sounds like >> time for a rebuild.? Just my two cents. >> Mike MacLean >> On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:07:19 PM PDT, Bob Spidell >> wrote: >> >> >> Flex lines are only a couple years old, and the hard lines are fairly >> fresh cupro-nickel. You got me thinking, though, the RF hard line may >> have a slight kink (they're both coiled). I'll check it out. >> >> Bob >> >> On 8/4/2020 9:57 PM, sentenac.rw at gmail.com >> wrote: >> > Bob, could there still be some debris in the right front brake line >> > that keeps the right brake from being as effective as the left?? Or an >> > internally frayed flex line to the right brake? >> > >> > -Roland >> > >> > On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:50:42 -0700, you wrote: >> > >> >> Thanks, Kees. The car's brakes are stock BJ8; i.e. single circuit. It >> >> pulls down straight, but locks the front left only. I replaced >> pads and >> >> rotors about 4 years/20K miles ago, and the old gear looked to be >> pretty >> >> evenly worn. The right rear line was the one that was pinched, and I >> >> thought for sure that would cure the lock-up; it did pull before I >> >> replaced the line, but I don't remember the direction (pull to the >> right >> >> would have been expected, I think). >> >> >> >> I'll take a look at the pads and rotors when I get a chance. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 8/4/2020 9:18 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: >> >>> Sounds like one of the calipers is (partly) seized. The car is >> >>> probably pulling to one side as well under normal braking. An >> overhaul >> >>> of the calipers and new pads would probably sort it. Also check the >> >>> discs. >> >>> >> >>> If you have a dual brake circuit fitted which is split in circuits >> >>> with one front and the opposite rear brake, check the Pressure >> >>> Differential Valve or Pressure Differential Warning Actuator (PDWA). >> >>> The plunjer should be central but can get dislodged after leakage or >> >>> bleeding the brakes. >> >>> >> >>> But first check the tyre pressures. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Kees Oudesluijs >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Op 5-8-2020 om 05:00 schreef Bob Spidell: >> >>>> Listers, >> >>>> >> >>>> Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd squashed >> >>>> with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got good pedal >> >>>> after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the front left >> >>>> locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can remember, but >> as I >> >>>> don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. But, now >> >>>> I'm wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, >> obviously, >> >>>> so why would one squeeze harder than the other? >> >>>> >> >>>> Bob >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >>>> >> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >>>> >> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >>>> >> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >>> >> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >>> >> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >>> >> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 21:04:32 2020 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 11:04:32 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup In-Reply-To: References: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> <6b2eff16-2458-d607-018d-3e9afa1ebdc0@comcast.net> <1e24ac55-aea4-5910-eb76-f9b4b6547a21@comcast.net> <1619560074.379053.1596644855425@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Bob - If you have the original chrome plated Girling pots in there, little bits of corrosion can start, causing the pot to stick a little. Worth taking the right caliper off (it's easy) and taking the pots out looking for rust. If that's the case, easy fix, replace the pots with SS replacements and the seals, you'll never have a problem again. Best Regards, Alan On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:26 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > Flex lines are 'normal' rubber; but fairly new. I checked the hard line > today; no kinks (my memory was playing tricks again). > > It pulls down straight; looks like replacing the kinked RR hard line might > have helped (ya' think, Bob?). I'll pull the wheels and have a look at pads > and rotors; might be a while as I'm starting to think about harvest. > > Bob > > > On 8/5/2020 5:54 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: > > You should be able to judge if the callipers are apply even pressure to > the disk by the wear pattern on each side of the disk. If the wear is even > and the surfaces look very similar likely the pads are not seized. Don't > rule out air in the brake line. Are the flex hoses rubber or stainless > steel braid? You may have a flex hose that is expanding due to pressure in > the brake line. > > Harold > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > ] *On Behalf Of *Bob Spidell > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 05, 2020 10:00 AM > *To:* Michael MacLean; Austin Healey > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Lockup > > Your $0.02 is appreciated. Rotors and pads were replaced not too long ago, > but it's probably been 20 years since I rebuilt the calipers. > > Bob > > On 8/5/2020 9:27 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > Maybe the right caliper was fluid starved for so long that is froze in > place or at least is binding up for that reason. If all the brake lines > are clear, the only thing left is the caliper. Sounds like time for a > rebuild. Just my two cents. > Mike MacLean > On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:07:19 PM PDT, Bob Spidell > wrote: > > > Flex lines are only a couple years old, and the hard lines are fairly > fresh cupro-nickel. You got me thinking, though, the RF hard line may > have a slight kink (they're both coiled). I'll check it out. > > Bob > > On 8/4/2020 9:57 PM, sentenac.rw at gmail.com wrote: > > Bob, could there still be some debris in the right front brake line > > that keeps the right brake from being as effective as the left? Or an > > internally frayed flex line to the right brake? > > > > -Roland > > > > On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:50:42 -0700, you wrote: > > > >> Thanks, Kees. The car's brakes are stock BJ8; i.e. single circuit. It > >> pulls down straight, but locks the front left only. I replaced pads and > >> rotors about 4 years/20K miles ago, and the old gear looked to be pretty > >> evenly worn. The right rear line was the one that was pinched, and I > >> thought for sure that would cure the lock-up; it did pull before I > >> replaced the line, but I don't remember the direction (pull to the right > >> would have been expected, I think). > >> > >> I'll take a look at the pads and rotors when I get a chance. > >> > >> > >> On 8/4/2020 9:18 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: > >>> Sounds like one of the calipers is (partly) seized. The car is > >>> probably pulling to one side as well under normal braking. An overhaul > >>> of the calipers and new pads would probably sort it. Also check the > >>> discs. > >>> > >>> If you have a dual brake circuit fitted which is split in circuits > >>> with one front and the opposite rear brake, check the Pressure > >>> Differential Valve or Pressure Differential Warning Actuator (PDWA). > >>> The plunjer should be central but can get dislodged after leakage or > >>> bleeding the brakes. > >>> > >>> But first check the tyre pressures. > >>> > >>> > >>> Kees Oudesluijs > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Op 5-8-2020 om 05:00 schreef Bob Spidell: > >>>> Listers, > >>>> > >>>> Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd squashed > >>>> with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got good pedal > >>>> after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the front left > >>>> locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can remember, but as I > >>>> don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. But, now > >>>> I'm wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, obviously, > >>>> so why would one squeeze harder than the other? > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >>>> > >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive > >>>> > >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net > >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >>>> > >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >>> > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > >>> http://autox.team.net/archive > >>> > >>> Healeys at autox.team.net > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >>> > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > >> > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >> > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Aug 5 21:27:59 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 20:27:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup In-Reply-To: References: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> <6b2eff16-2458-d607-018d-3e9afa1ebdc0@comcast.net> <1e24ac55-aea4-5910-eb76-f9b4b6547a21@comcast.net> <1619560074.379053.1596644855425@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think I bought SS pots when I rebuilt them, but it's been so long ago ... On 8/5/2020 8:04 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Hi Bob - > > If you have the original chrome plated Girling pots in there, little > bits of corrosion can start, causing the pot to stick a little.? Worth > taking the right caliper off (it's easy) and taking the pots out > looking for rust.? If that's the case, easy fix, replace the pots with > SS replacements and the seals, you'll never have a problem again. > > Best Regards, > > Alan > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:26 AM Bob Spidell > wrote: > > Flex lines are 'normal' rubber; but fairly new. I checked the hard > line today; no kinks (my memory was playing tricks again). > > It pulls down straight; looks like replacing the kinked RR hard > line might have helped (ya' think, Bob?). I'll pull the wheels and > have a look at pads and rotors; might be a while as I'm starting > to think about harvest. > > Bob > > > On 8/5/2020 5:54 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: >> You should be able to judge if the callipers are apply even >> pressure to the disk by the wear pattern on each side of the >> disk. If the wear is even and the surfaces look very similar >> likely the pads are not seized. Don't rule out air in the brake >> line. Are the flex hoses rubber or stainless steel braid? You may >> have a flex hose that is expanding due to pressure in the brake line. >> Harold >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On >> Behalf Of *Bob Spidell >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 05, 2020 10:00 AM >> *To:* Michael MacLean; Austin Healey >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Lockup >> >> Your $0.02 is appreciated. Rotors and pads were replaced not too >> long ago, but it's probably been 20 years since I rebuilt the >> calipers. >> >> Bob >> >> On 8/5/2020 9:27 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: >>> Maybe the right caliper was fluid starved for so long that is >>> froze in place or at least is binding up for that reason.? If >>> all the brake lines are clear, the only thing left is the >>> caliper.? Sounds like time for a rebuild.? Just my two cents. >>> Mike MacLean >>> On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:07:19 PM PDT, Bob Spidell >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Flex lines are only a couple years old, and the hard lines are >>> fairly >>> fresh cupro-nickel. You got me thinking, though, the RF hard >>> line may >>> have a slight kink (they're both coiled). I'll check it out. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> On 8/4/2020 9:57 PM, sentenac.rw at gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> > Bob, could there still be some debris in the right front brake >>> line >>> > that keeps the right brake from being as effective as the >>> left?? Or an >>> > internally frayed flex line to the right brake? >>> > >>> > -Roland >>> > >>> > On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:50:42 -0700, you wrote: >>> > >>> >> Thanks, Kees. The car's brakes are stock BJ8; i.e. single >>> circuit. It >>> >> pulls down straight, but locks the front left only. I >>> replaced pads and >>> >> rotors about 4 years/20K miles ago, and the old gear looked >>> to be pretty >>> >> evenly worn. The right rear line was the one that was >>> pinched, and I >>> >> thought for sure that would cure the lock-up; it did pull >>> before I >>> >> replaced the line, but I don't remember the direction (pull >>> to the right >>> >> would have been expected, I think). >>> >> >>> >> I'll take a look at the pads and rotors when I get a chance. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 8/4/2020 9:18 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: >>> >>> Sounds like one of the calipers is (partly) seized. The car is >>> >>> probably pulling to one side as well under normal braking. >>> An overhaul >>> >>> of the calipers and new pads would probably sort it. Also >>> check the >>> >>> discs. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you have a dual brake circuit fitted which is split in >>> circuits >>> >>> with one front and the opposite rear brake, check the Pressure >>> >>> Differential Valve or Pressure Differential Warning Actuator >>> (PDWA). >>> >>> The plunjer should be central but can get dislodged after >>> leakage or >>> >>> bleeding the brakes. >>> >>> >>> >>> But first check the tyre pressures. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Kees Oudesluijs >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Op 5-8-2020 om 05:00 schreef Bob Spidell: >>> >>>> Listers, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd >>> squashed >>> >>>> with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got >>> good pedal >>> >>>> after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the >>> front left >>> >>>> locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can >>> remember, but as I >>> >>>> don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. >>> But, now >>> >>>> I'm wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, >>> obviously, >>> >>>> so why would one squeeze harder than the other? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Bob >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >>>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >>> >> >>> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >> >>> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >> >>> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com >>> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 02:07:56 2020 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 16:07:56 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup In-Reply-To: References: <597bd2b1-da31-6772-75f4-236a81b16bd6@comcast.net> <6b2eff16-2458-d607-018d-3e9afa1ebdc0@comcast.net> <1e24ac55-aea4-5910-eb76-f9b4b6547a21@comcast.net> <1619560074.379053.1596644855425@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ah, well then it could be a bad brake hose. I really prefer the modern aeroquip to avoid this whole problem. On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:28 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > I think I bought SS pots when I rebuilt them, but it's been so long ago ... > > On 8/5/2020 8:04 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > > Hi Bob - > > If you have the original chrome plated Girling pots in there, little bits > of corrosion can start, causing the pot to stick a little. Worth taking > the right caliper off (it's easy) and taking the pots out looking for > rust. If that's the case, easy fix, replace the pots with SS replacements > and the seals, you'll never have a problem again. > > Best Regards, > > Alan > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:26 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > >> Flex lines are 'normal' rubber; but fairly new. I checked the hard line >> today; no kinks (my memory was playing tricks again). >> >> It pulls down straight; looks like replacing the kinked RR hard line >> might have helped (ya' think, Bob?). I'll pull the wheels and have a look >> at pads and rotors; might be a while as I'm starting to think about harvest. >> >> Bob >> >> >> On 8/5/2020 5:54 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: >> >> You should be able to judge if the callipers are apply even pressure to >> the disk by the wear pattern on each side of the disk. If the wear is even >> and the surfaces look very similar likely the pads are not seized. Don't >> rule out air in the brake line. Are the flex hoses rubber or stainless >> steel braid? You may have a flex hose that is expanding due to pressure in >> the brake line. >> >> Harold >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net >> ] *On Behalf Of *Bob Spidell >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 05, 2020 10:00 AM >> *To:* Michael MacLean; Austin Healey >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Lockup >> >> Your $0.02 is appreciated. Rotors and pads were replaced not too long >> ago, but it's probably been 20 years since I rebuilt the calipers. >> >> Bob >> >> On 8/5/2020 9:27 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: >> >> Maybe the right caliper was fluid starved for so long that is froze in >> place or at least is binding up for that reason. If all the brake lines >> are clear, the only thing left is the caliper. Sounds like time for a >> rebuild. Just my two cents. >> Mike MacLean >> On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:07:19 PM PDT, Bob Spidell >> wrote: >> >> >> Flex lines are only a couple years old, and the hard lines are fairly >> fresh cupro-nickel. You got me thinking, though, the RF hard line may >> have a slight kink (they're both coiled). I'll check it out. >> >> Bob >> >> On 8/4/2020 9:57 PM, sentenac.rw at gmail.com wrote: >> > Bob, could there still be some debris in the right front brake line >> > that keeps the right brake from being as effective as the left? Or an >> > internally frayed flex line to the right brake? >> > >> > -Roland >> > >> > On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:50:42 -0700, you wrote: >> > >> >> Thanks, Kees. The car's brakes are stock BJ8; i.e. single circuit. It >> >> pulls down straight, but locks the front left only. I replaced pads and >> >> rotors about 4 years/20K miles ago, and the old gear looked to be >> pretty >> >> evenly worn. The right rear line was the one that was pinched, and I >> >> thought for sure that would cure the lock-up; it did pull before I >> >> replaced the line, but I don't remember the direction (pull to the >> right >> >> would have been expected, I think). >> >> >> >> I'll take a look at the pads and rotors when I get a chance. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 8/4/2020 9:18 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: >> >>> Sounds like one of the calipers is (partly) seized. The car is >> >>> probably pulling to one side as well under normal braking. An overhaul >> >>> of the calipers and new pads would probably sort it. Also check the >> >>> discs. >> >>> >> >>> If you have a dual brake circuit fitted which is split in circuits >> >>> with one front and the opposite rear brake, check the Pressure >> >>> Differential Valve or Pressure Differential Warning Actuator (PDWA). >> >>> The plunjer should be central but can get dislodged after leakage or >> >>> bleeding the brakes. >> >>> >> >>> But first check the tyre pressures. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Kees Oudesluijs >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Op 5-8-2020 om 05:00 schreef Bob Spidell: >> >>>> Listers, >> >>>> >> >>>> Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd squashed >> >>>> with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got good pedal >> >>>> after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the front left >> >>>> locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can remember, but as I >> >>>> don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. But, now >> >>>> I'm wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, obviously, >> >>>> so why would one squeeze harder than the other? >> >>>> >> >>>> Bob >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >>>> >> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >>>> >> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >>>> >> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >>> >> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >>> >> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >>> >> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From austin.healey at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 06:17:39 2020 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 22:17:39 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Lockup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62D101FF-3F6E-420B-905C-5FCA86C35980@gmail.com> If it stops straight, then I?d be looking at wheel weights. That eliminates stuck pistons, blocked hoses etc. Not wheel balance weights, but the suspension weight of each Wheel. The lightest wheel always locks first. 4 wheels. Total car weight isn?t equally carried on each wheel. The lightest locks first > On 6 Aug 2020, at 12:27 pm, Bob Spidell wrote: > > ? Flex lines are 'normal' rubber; but fairly new. I checked the hard line today; no kinks (my memory was playing tricks again). > > It pulls down straight; looks like replacing the kinked RR hard line might have helped (ya' think, Bob?). I'll pull the wheels and have a look at pads and rotors; might be a while as I'm starting to think about harvest. > > Bob > > > On 8/5/2020 5:54 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: >> You should be able to judge if the callipers are apply even pressure to the disk by the wear pattern on each side of the disk. If the wear is even and the surfaces look very similar likely the pads are not seized. Don't rule out air in the brake line. Are the flex hoses rubber or stainless steel braid? You may have a flex hose that is expanding due to pressure in the brake line. >> >> Harold >> >> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell >> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2020 10:00 AM >> To: Michael MacLean; Austin Healey >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Lockup >> >> Your $0.02 is appreciated. Rotors and pads were replaced not too long ago, but it's probably been 20 years since I rebuilt the calipers. >> >> Bob >> >> On 8/5/2020 9:27 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: >>> Maybe the right caliper was fluid starved for so long that is froze in place or at least is binding up for that reason. If all the brake lines are clear, the only thing left is the caliper. Sounds like time for a rebuild. Just my two cents. >>> Mike MacLean >>> On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:07:19 PM PDT, Bob Spidell wrote: >>> >>> >>> Flex lines are only a couple years old, and the hard lines are fairly >>> fresh cupro-nickel. You got me thinking, though, the RF hard line may >>> have a slight kink (they're both coiled). I'll check it out. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> On 8/4/2020 9:57 PM, sentenac.rw at gmail.com wrote: >>> > Bob, could there still be some debris in the right front brake line >>> > that keeps the right brake from being as effective as the left? Or an >>> > internally frayed flex line to the right brake? >>> > >>> > -Roland >>> > >>> > On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:50:42 -0700, you wrote: >>> > >>> >> Thanks, Kees. The car's brakes are stock BJ8; i.e. single circuit. It >>> >> pulls down straight, but locks the front left only. I replaced pads and >>> >> rotors about 4 years/20K miles ago, and the old gear looked to be pretty >>> >> evenly worn. The right rear line was the one that was pinched, and I >>> >> thought for sure that would cure the lock-up; it did pull before I >>> >> replaced the line, but I don't remember the direction (pull to the right >>> >> would have been expected, I think). >>> >> >>> >> I'll take a look at the pads and rotors when I get a chance. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 8/4/2020 9:18 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: >>> >>> Sounds like one of the calipers is (partly) seized. The car is >>> >>> probably pulling to one side as well under normal braking. An overhaul >>> >>> of the calipers and new pads would probably sort it. Also check the >>> >>> discs. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you have a dual brake circuit fitted which is split in circuits >>> >>> with one front and the opposite rear brake, check the Pressure >>> >>> Differential Valve or Pressure Differential Warning Actuator (PDWA). >>> >>> The plunjer should be central but can get dislodged after leakage or >>> >>> bleeding the brakes. >>> >>> >>> >>> But first check the tyre pressures. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Kees Oudesluijs >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Op 5-8-2020 om 05:00 schreef Bob Spidell: >>> >>>> Listers, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Today I replaced a section of brake line on my BJ8 that I'd squashed >>> >>>> with a jackstand. The operation was a success, and I got good pedal >>> >>>> after bleeding, but when I stomped on the brakes only the front left >>> >>>> locked-up. This has been the case as long as I can remember, but as I >>> >>>> don't usually need to lock them up it hasn't bothered me. But, now >>> >>>> I'm wondering 'why?' There's no adjustment on disk brakes, obviously, >>> >>>> so why would one squeeze harder than the other? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Bob >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >> >>> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >> >>> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >> >>> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com >>> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyrik at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 10:22:09 2020 From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 12:22:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radio speakers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think Kent's solution is the best idea. First, AM radio is mostly talk and not in stereo. FM, while in stereo, is dependent on how close you are to the station. You'll need to drill a hole in your fender to route an antenna. With a bluetooth smartphone equipped with Spotify, Pandora or Sirius, she can listen to anything she wants at any time without being at the mercy of programming and with paid subscriptions entirely do away with commercials. I have a Bluetooth hookup on my Becker Europa II Stereo radio and I don't even listen to the radio anymore, just Spotify. If the radio installation wasn't already in the car, I would just do as Kent suggests. Healthy Healying, Rick Neville On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 2:39 PM Kent McLean wrote: > Bob Brown wrote: > > I?ve been asked by a non-list BJ8 owner about radios and speakers for her > car. > I?ve located radios available from Moss but what do folks use for speakers > and their placement? > Yes I know radios are not necessary in a Healey but she is younger and > what does a dad do. > > > If she is that young, Bluetooth from her smartphone to a powered speaker > or to a small amp and speakers. Then she can play Pandora or Spotify or any > music on her phone. No need to listen to a DJ spinning ads. > > Powered speakers: I have one of these. I'm amazed at the sound, treble and > bass, that comes from such a small device. Bluetooth connect your phone to > it and you have great sound. Battery powered and portable. Use it in the > car, use it on the deck, use it at work. > https://www.anker.com/products/variant/soundcore-bluetooth-speaker/A3102011 > > Or small bluetooth amp and speakers, if you want the hassle of installing > them. > Amp. This was from a google search. I have no experience with this one; > it's just an example. Small enough to fit anywhere. > > https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Stereo-Mini-Amplifier/dp/B07W46QV5J/ > > Speakers. Do you want to cut up your door cards to make an opening for > speakers? 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M _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sentenac.rw at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 16:57:06 2020 From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 15:57:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets In-Reply-To: <282943314.1035096.1596740245422@mail.yahoo.com> References: <282943314.1035096.1596740245422@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life. -Roland On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I don't even have a jack. > > Mike M. > > On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter < > michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack > handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does > anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? > > M > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Aug 6 17:27:54 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 16:27:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets In-Reply-To: References: <282943314.1035096.1596740245422@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <909215c5-9a73-f87b-7b4f-0cf68a8a8601@comcast.net> I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: > You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and > looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or > similar. It might save your life. > -Roland > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys > > wrote: > > I don't even have a jack. > > Mike M. > > On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter > > wrote: > > > Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a > jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing > up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? > > M > _______________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 6 20:00:05 2020 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (Mirek Sharp) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 22:00:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003001d66c5e$78d52ad0$6a7f8070$@sympatico.ca> Hi Mike, I have no doubt you want this to complete the car. I am in a similar position; I want it for originality, but carry a scissors jack for roadside repairs. I have two correct jacks but have been looking for years for the correct handles. I did have some made up, but it is difficult to form the ?bulge? on the end with sufficient symmetry to be satisfying, so I am still keeping my eye out for them. If you (or anyone else) happen across a set of handles for an early 3000, please let me know. Cheers, Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 1:51 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Aug 7 01:44:14 2020 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 08:44:14 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Early 300o wipers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001401d66c8e$8dd0b730$a9722590$@alexarevel.plus.com> These guys are the best that I've found for wipers and mirrors. https://www.texautomotive.com/classic_wiper_blades.html They've been around forever. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Mirek Sharp via Healeys Sent: 07 August 2020 03:26 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Early 300o wipers I recently got caught in a rain shower (with no top, but that is another story), and was sadly reminded about how bad the wipers are on my car ('59 BT7). I must replace the rubbers; a no-brainer, but the spring pressure provided by that little "leaf spring" is pretty useless. However, I recall the wipers being better in the past. I'd like to preserve the original wiper arms and my first step will be to try and bend the spring to try and coax more pressure out of it, but I wondered if anyone had any brilliant solutions to increase arm pressure. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Fri Aug 7 04:10:26 2020 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Robert Begani) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 06:10:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets In-Reply-To: <909215c5-9a73-f87b-7b4f-0cf68a8a8601@comcast.net> References: <282943314.1035096.1596740245422@mail.yahoo.com> <909215c5-9a73-f87b-7b4f-0cf68a8a8601@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0d9c01d66ca2$f983e240$ec8ba6c0$@gmail.com> Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe keeping. Never did have a handle. Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from Sears in a nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in between the tire and the battery in my BJ8. Lightly used, but, really works when you need it. Bob Begani BJ8 67 From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life. -Roland On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys > wrote: I don't even have a jack. Mike M. On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter > wrote: Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? M _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Aug 7 04:35:59 2020 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:35:59 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets In-Reply-To: <0d9c01d66ca2$f983e240$ec8ba6c0$@gmail.com> References: <282943314.1035096.1596740245422@mail.yahoo.com> <909215c5-9a73-f87b-7b4f-0cf68a8a8601@comcast.net> <0d9c01d66ca2$f983e240$ec8ba6c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000a01d66ca6$8c9982d0$a5cc8870$@alexarevel.plus.com> I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had one. I have something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army many moons ago. I carry that plus a small scissors which will do to raise the car enough to get the other jack in place. However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack Handles. But, are they what you need?? Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert Begani via Healeys Sent: 07 August 2020 11:10 To: 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe keeping. Never did have a handle. Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from Sears in a nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in between the tire and the battery in my BJ8. Lightly used, but, really works when you need it. Bob Begani BJ8 67 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life. -Roland On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys > wrote: I don't even have a jack. Mike M. On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter > wrote: Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? M _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Aug 7 08:45:21 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 07:45:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Badge Restoration In-Reply-To: <011401d66cb0$bbfde1b0$33f9a510$@tpg.com.au> References: <011401d66cb0$bbfde1b0$33f9a510$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <2035e224-c3b0-31ef-ef4c-f377a48ad3d0@comcast.net> This one gets high praise (not in the US, but you'll be shipping so ....): http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/ On 8/7/2020 4:48 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: > > Hello > > A couple of years back I recall an interest in a business in the US > that restored metal badges. > > I have found Emblemagic in Ohio, but can?t recall if that is the company. > > Perhaps someone else knows. > > Many thanks > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can vies them in our online catalog at http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/store/product.php?product_id=871&backtoshop_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.britishcarspecialists.com%2Fstore%2Findex.php%3Fcategory%3DWINDSHIELD%26subcategory%3DWIPER David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Friday, August 07, 2020 12:44 AM To: 'Mirek Sharp' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early 300o wipers These guys are the best that I?ve found for wipers and mirrors. https://www.texautomotive.com/classic_wiper_blades.html They?ve been around forever. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Mirek Sharp via Healeys Sent: 07 August 2020 03:26 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Early 300o wipers I recently got caught in a rain shower (with no top, but that is another story), and was sadly reminded about how bad the wipers are on my car (?59 BT7). I must replace the rubbers; a no-brainer, but the spring pressure provided by that little ?leaf spring? is pretty useless. However, I recall the wipers being better in the past. I?d like to preserve the original wiper arms and my first step will be to try and bend the spring to try and coax more pressure out of it, but I wondered if anyone had any brilliant solutions to increase arm pressure. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Aug 7 09:59:41 2020 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 08:59:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Badge Restoration In-Reply-To: <011401d66cb0$bbfde1b0$33f9a510$@tpg.com.au> References: <011401d66cb0$bbfde1b0$33f9a510$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Patrick, I have personal experience with Karla Maxwell of Maxwell Enamels here in Vista California, about a 10 minute drive from me. Karla is first and foremost a friend, a highly trained jeweler, and a badge expert who does badges for many Pebble Beach show cars. She has done work for me, and I have done work for her for well over a decade. http://www.maxwellenamels.com/Home_Page.html Here's a sample (attached photos) of her most recent work for me. Cheers, Curt On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 4:49 AM Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hello > > > > A couple of years back I recall an interest in a business in the US that > restored metal badges. > > > > I have found Emblemagic in Ohio, but can?t recall if that is the company. > > > > Perhaps someone else knows. > > > > Many thanks > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > > <#m_-5694799305408503938_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They won't be fast, but it will be done at the time that they say it will. -Roland BN1 #724 with a restored front badge On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 07:45:21 -0700, you wrote: >This one gets high praise (not in the US, but you'll be shipping so ....): > >http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/ > > >On 8/7/2020 4:48 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> A couple of years back I recall an interest in a business in the US >> that restored metal badges. >> >> I have found Emblemagic in Ohio, but can?t recall if that is the company. >> >> Perhaps someone else knows. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Patrick Quinn >> >> Blue Mountains, Australia -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Aug 7 14:25:11 2020 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 16:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] For Lin Rose Message-ID: <1122388033.17383259.1596831911235.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Lin--please contact me-----looking for a part for a trafficator---of you have itThankstom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: Healey Badge.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3210272 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Aug 7 14:47:44 2020 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 16:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] For Bob Orr Message-ID: <2056080910.17408997.1596833264212.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Contact me pleasetom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Aug 7 15:37:36 2020 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 22:37:36 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Badge Restoration In-Reply-To: References: <011401d66cb0$bbfde1b0$33f9a510$@tpg.com.au> <2035e224-c3b0-31ef-ef4c-f377a48ad3d0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003001d66d02$fa0ee290$ee2ca7b0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Yes, they're slow but excellent. Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of sentenac.rw at gmail.com Sent: 07 August 2020 21:15 To: Bob Spidell Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Badge Restoration Badgecraft is Pamela David Enamels. I have used them and am completely satisfied with the result. They won't be fast, but it will be done at the time that they say it will. -Roland BN1 #724 with a restored front badge On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 07:45:21 -0700, you wrote: >This one gets high praise (not in the US, but you'll be shipping so ....): > >http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/ > > >On 8/7/2020 4:48 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> A couple of years back I recall an interest in a business in the US >> that restored metal badges. >> >> I have found Emblemagic in Ohio, but can't recall if that is the company. >> >> Perhaps someone else knows. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Patrick Quinn >> >> Blue Mountains, Australia -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus. com From jpd64 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 7 15:43:11 2020 From: jpd64 at yahoo.com (Jon Doherty) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 21:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Badge Restoration In-Reply-To: <003001d66d02$fa0ee290$ee2ca7b0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <011401d66cb0$bbfde1b0$33f9a510$@tpg.com.au> <2035e224-c3b0-31ef-ef4c-f377a48ad3d0@comcast.net> <003001d66d02$fa0ee290$ee2ca7b0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <324807675.1159606.1596836591681@mail.yahoo.com> Roland, What did it cost to have your front emblem done? Thanks,Jon On Friday, August 7, 2020, 02:38:18 PM PDT, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: Yes, they're slow but excellent. Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of sentenac.rw at gmail.com Sent: 07 August 2020 21:15 To: Bob Spidell Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Badge Restoration Badgecraft is Pamela David Enamels.? I have used them and am completely satisfied with the result.? They won't be fast, but it will be done at the time that they say it will. -Roland BN1 #724 with a restored front badge On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 07:45:21 -0700, you wrote: >This one gets high praise (not in the US, but you'll be shipping so ....): > >http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/ > > >On 8/7/2020 4:48 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> A couple of years back I recall an interest in a business in the US >> that restored metal badges. >> >> I have found Emblemagic in Ohio, but can't recall if that is the company. >> >> Perhaps someone else knows. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Patrick Quinn >> >> Blue Mountains, Australia -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus. com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpd64 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Fri Aug 7 15:48:32 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 17:48:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets In-Reply-To: <000a01d66ca6$8c9982d0$a5cc8870$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <282943314.1035096.1596740245422@mail.yahoo.com> <909215c5-9a73-f87b-7b4f-0cf68a8a8601@comcast.net> <0d9c01d66ca2$f983e240$ec8ba6c0$@gmail.com> <000a01d66ca6$8c9982d0$a5cc8870$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: I should have added a picture of what the original jack handle set looks like. [image: image.png] The response from people offering to sell a set has been, shall we say, underwhelming. I guess I'm heading into it again ... At least now I have the necessary materials. M On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had one. I have > something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army many moons ago. I carry > that plus a small scissors which will do to raise the car enough to get the > other jack in place. > > However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack Handles. But, > are they what you need?? > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Robert > Begani via Healeys > *Sent:* 07 August 2020 11:10 > *To:* 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets > > > > Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe keeping. > Never did have a handle. > > > > Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from Sears in a > nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in between the tire and the > battery in my BJ8. Lightly used, but, really works when you need it. > > > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 67 > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Bob > Spidell > *Sent:* Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets > > > > I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the > jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're > really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more > bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each > of my cars years ago). Ex: > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 > > I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. > > > ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. > > On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: > > You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks > only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. > It might save your life. > > -Roland > > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I don't even have a jack. > > > > Mike M. > > > > On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter < > michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack > handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does > anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? > > > > M > > _______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It was a couple of years ago. -Roland -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 7 17:44:34 2020 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 16:44:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Early 300o wipers In-Reply-To: <751407AC7E474224B06B3D91EE99197A@DavidNockHP> References: <001401d66c8e$8dd0b730$a9722590$@alexarevel.plus.com> <751407AC7E474224B06B3D91EE99197A@DavidNockHP> Message-ID: <009201d66d14$b4ff6be0$1efe43a0$@sbcglobal.net> David, I have aftermarket wiper arms for my 1962 BT7 but they cannot be lifted up and parked up such that they are off the windshield to clean it. The originals could. Does the one you sell allow it to be lifted and parked? TIA, John Spaur From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock via Healeys Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 8:00 AM To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com; 'Mirek Sharp' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early 300o wipers We carry a spring loaded wiper arm that for the BN2 thru BJ8. You can vies them in our online catalog at http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/store/product.php?product_id=871 &backtoshop_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.britishcarspecialists.com%2Fstore%2Findex.php%3Fcategory%3DWINDSHIELD%26subcategory%3DWIPER David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Friday, August 07, 2020 12:44 AM To: 'Mirek Sharp' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early 300o wipers These guys are the best that I?ve found for wipers and mirrors. https://www.texautomotive.com/classic_wiper_blades.html They?ve been around forever. Simon From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Mirek Sharp via Healeys Sent: 07 August 2020 03:26 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Early 300o wipers I recently got caught in a rain shower (with no top, but that is another story), and was sadly reminded about how bad the wipers are on my car (?59 BT7). I must replace the rubbers; a no-brainer, but the spring pressure provided by that little ?leaf spring? is pretty useless. However, I recall the wipers being better in the past. I?d like to preserve the original wiper arms and my first step will be to try and bend the spring to try and coax more pressure out of it, but I wondered if anyone had any brilliant solutions to increase arm pressure. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _____ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Aug 7 18:26:23 2020 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 10:26:23 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Badge Restoration In-Reply-To: <011401d66cb0$bbfde1b0$33f9a510$@tpg.com.au> References: <011401d66cb0$bbfde1b0$33f9a510$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <006e01d66d1a$8c5e0ec0$a51a2c40$@tpg.com.au> Hello Thank you to everyone who replied to my request re badge restoration. Attached is an image of the badge in need of restoration. It's from the front of a Healey Three Litre Convertible. Hoo Roo Patrick From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys Sent: Friday, 7 August 2020 9:49 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Badge Restoration Hello A couple of years back I recall an interest in a business in the US that restored metal badges. I have found Emblemagic in Ohio, but can't recall if that is the company. Perhaps someone else knows. Many thanks Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia Virus-free. www.avast.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It?s from the > front of a Healey Three Litre Convertible. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Patrick > & Caroline Quinn via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, 7 August 2020 9:49 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Badge Restoration > > > > Hello > > > > A couple of years back I recall an interest in a business in the US that > restored metal badges. > > > > I have found Emblemagic in Ohio, but can?t recall if that is the company. > > > > Perhaps someone else knows. > > > > Many thanks > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgcharlie at comcast.net Fri Aug 7 19:45:23 2020 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 21:45:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets In-Reply-To: References: <282943314.1035096.1596740245422@mail.yahoo.com> <909215c5-9a73-f87b-7b4f-0cf68a8a8601@comcast.net> <0d9c01d66ca2$f983e240$ec8ba6c0$@gmail.com> <000a01d66ca6$8c9982d0$a5cc8870$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <5f9bded5-f4ab-a75b-4287-13d7ef619720@comcast.net> Michael, There are people who specialize in British car tool kits or parts of them who pick up items at various flea markets and are willing to part with them if they are not part of a complete tool kit. One that I know of is Tom Buckus, 717-263-8701, tbuckus at innernet.net.? He is from Chambersburg, PA.? His business is called Jaguar Tools, but his business card states: Specializing in Jaguar tool kits and jacks, tool kits for MGs, Triumphs, Austin-Healey and other British marques. I would suspect that there is some crossover between marques that what you are looking for could also be the same as that used for something else of the same time period. Charlie On 8/7/2020 5:48 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: > I should have added a picture of what the original jack handle set > looks like. > image.png > The response from people offering to sell a set has been, shall we > say, underwhelming. > I guess I'm heading into it again ... > At least now I have the necessary materials. > > M > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > > wrote: > > I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had one. > I have something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army many > moons ago. I carry that plus a small scissors which will do to > raise the car enough to get the other jack in place. > > However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack > Handles. But, are they what you need?? > > Simon > > *From:*Healeys > *On Behalf Of *Robert > Begani via Healeys > *Sent:* 07 August 2020 11:10 > *To:* 'Bob Spidell' >; healeys at autox.team.net > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets > > Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe > keeping. Never did have a handle. > > Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from > Sears in a? nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in > between the tire and the battery in my BJ8.? Lightly used, but, > really works when you need it. > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 67 > > *From:*Healeys > *On Behalf Of *Bob Spidell > *Sent:* Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets > > I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care > what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey > (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because > they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find > anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 > > I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. > > > ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. > > On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: > > You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for > originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a > small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life. > > -Roland > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys > > wrote: > > I don't even have a jack. > > Mike M. > > On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael > Salter > wrote: > > Before I again launch into the time consuming process of > making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 > that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that > they are willing to sell? > > M > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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His business is called Jaguar Tools, but his business card states: Specializing in Jaguar tool kits and jacks, tool kits for MGs, Triumphs, Austin-Healey and other British marques. > > I would suspect that there is some crossover between marques that what you are looking for could also be the same as that used for something else of the same time period. > > Charlie > > On 8/7/2020 5:48 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: >> I should have added a picture of what the original jack handle set looks like. >> >> The response from people offering to sell a set has been, shall we say, underwhelming. >> I guess I'm heading into it again ... >> At least now I have the necessary materials. >> >> M >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: >>> I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had one. I have something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army many moons ago. I carry that plus a small scissors which will do to raise the car enough to get the other jack in place. >>> >>> However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack Handles. But, are they what you need?? >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert Begani via Healeys >>> Sent: 07 August 2020 11:10 >>> To: 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets >>> >>> >>> >>> Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe keeping. Never did have a handle. >>> >>> >>> >>> Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from Sears in a nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in between the tire and the battery in my BJ8. Lightly used, but, really works when you need it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bob Begani >>> >>> BJ8 67 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell >>> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM >>> To: healeys at autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets >>> >>> >>> >>> I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: >>> >>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 >>> >>> I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. >>> >>> >>> ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. >>> >>> On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: >>> >>> You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life. >>> >>> -Roland >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys wrote: >>> >>> I don't even have a jack. >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike M. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? >>> >>> >>> >>> M >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Aug 7 20:19:34 2020 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 12:19:34 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Badge Restoration In-Reply-To: References: <011401d66cb0$bbfde1b0$33f9a510$@tpg.com.au> <006e01d66d1a$8c5e0ec0$a51a2c40$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <00bc01d66d2a$5ba98a60$12fc9f20$@tpg.com.au> Hello Well not quite. Bought at auction in Sydney about three years back and now being restored. Chassis and sub-frame done. Second photo shows the body done. Mechanicals are now being done. Interesting car as while it was built in RHD for the UK market, this car was sold new in New York to a member of the Vanderbilt family. Arrived in Australia in the 1980s and not touched until three years back. If you thought Austin-Healey parts were expensive, you should try Alvis parts. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia Where it?s wet and cold. From: Curtis Arndt [mailto:cnaarndt at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2020 10:54 AM To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Badge Restoration Cool badge! Knowing you, it's the only piece left of the car, and you and Varley are going to make it into a complete car ;-^) On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 5:27 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: Hello Thank you to everyone who replied to my request re badge restoration. Attached is an image of the badge in need of restoration. It?s from the front of a Healey Three Litre Convertible. Hoo Roo Patrick From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys Sent: Friday, 7 August 2020 9:49 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Badge Restoration Hello A couple of years back I recall an interest in a business in the US that restored metal badges. I have found Emblemagic in Ohio, but can?t recall if that is the company. Perhaps someone else knows. Many thanks Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia Virus-free. www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 10_2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 160360 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 8/7/2020 10:07 PM, Perry Small wrote: > I believe that Tom is the guy I bought some of the Jag Mk2 Tools years > ago at Hershey meets. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 7, 2020, at 9:49 PM, Charlie Baldwin >> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> Michael, >> >> There are people who specialize in British car tool kits or parts of >> them who pick up items at various flea markets and are willing to >> part with them if they are not part of a complete tool kit. >> >> One that I know of is Tom Buckus, 717-263-8701, tbuckus at innernet.net. >> He is from Chambersburg, PA.? His business is called Jaguar Tools, >> but his business card states: Specializing in Jaguar tool kits and >> jacks, tool kits for MGs, Triumphs, Austin-Healey and other British >> marques. >> >> I would suspect that there is some crossover between marques that >> what you are looking for could also be the same as that used for >> something else of the same time period. >> >> Charlie >> >> On 8/7/2020 5:48 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: >>> I should have added a picture of what the original jack handle set >>> looks like. >>> >>> The response from people offering to sell a set has been, shall we >>> say, underwhelming. >>> I guess I'm heading into it again ... >>> At least now I have the necessary materials. >>> >>> M >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys >>> > wrote: >>> >>> I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had >>> one. I have something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army >>> many moons ago. I carry that plus a small scissors which will do >>> to raise the car enough to get the other jack in place. >>> >>> However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack >>> Handles. But, are they what you need?? >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> *From:*Healeys >> > *On Behalf Of *Robert >>> Begani via Healeys >>> *Sent:* 07 August 2020 11:10 >>> *To:* 'Bob Spidell' >> >; healeys at autox.team.net >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets >>> >>> Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe >>> keeping. Never did have a handle. >>> >>> Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from >>> Sears in a? nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in >>> between the tire and the battery in my BJ8. Lightly used, but, >>> really works when you need it. >>> >>> Bob Begani >>> >>> BJ8 67 >>> >>> *From:*Healeys >> > *On Behalf Of *Bob Spidell >>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM >>> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net >>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets >>> >>> I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't >>> care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a >>> Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe >>> because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost >>> impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars >>> years ago). Ex: >>> >>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 >>> >>> I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. >>> >>> >>> ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. >>> >>> On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: >>> >>> You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for >>> originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a >>> small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life. >>> >>> -Roland >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys >>> > wrote: >>> >>> I don't even have a jack. >>> >>> Mike M. >>> >>> On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael >>> Salter >> > wrote: >>> >>> Before I again launch into the time consuming process of >>> making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 >>> that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one >>> that they are willing to sell? >>> >>> M >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From varley at cosmos.net.au Sat Aug 8 00:02:13 2020 From: varley at cosmos.net.au (Larry Varley) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 16:02:13 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Badge Restoration In-Reply-To: References: <011401d66cb0$bbfde1b0$33f9a510$@tpg.com.au> <006e01d66d1a$8c5e0ec0$a51a2c40$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Curt, not guilty in this case. However my second 1954 Nash Healey Coupe did come from the same collector here in Australia as the Healey three litre convertible. There was way too much corroded aluminium bodywork on the Alvis powered car for me to be interested! But it looks like an excellent job is being done on restoring it. Image attached of the Nash Healey coupe. True to form there is a lot missing! It came from the Fred Roth collection in America where Fred used it as a parts car for his other 54 Coupe. So Curt you weren't too far off the mark :) Regards Larry Varley On 8/08/2020 10:53 AM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys wrote: > Cool badge! > > Knowing you, it's the only piece left of the car, and you and Varley > are going to make it into a complete car ;-^) > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Simon From: Jon Doherty Sent: 07 August 2020 23:43 To: sentenac.rw at gmail.com; simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Badge Restoration Roland, What did it cost to have your front emblem done? Thanks, Jon On Friday, August 7, 2020, 02:38:18 PM PDT, Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: Yes, they're slow but excellent. Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys > On Behalf Of sentenac.rw at gmail.com Sent: 07 August 2020 21:15 To: Bob Spidell > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Badge Restoration Badgecraft is Pamela David Enamels. I have used them and am completely satisfied with the result. They won't be fast, but it will be done at the time that they say it will. -Roland BN1 #724 with a restored front badge On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 07:45:21 -0700, you wrote: >This one gets high praise (not in the US, but you'll be shipping so ....): > >http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/ > > >On 8/7/2020 4:48 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> A couple of years back I recall an interest in a business in the US >> that restored metal badges. >> >> I have found Emblemagic in Ohio, but can't recall if that is the company. >> >> Perhaps someone else knows. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Patrick Quinn >> >> Blue Mountains, Australia -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus. com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpd64 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From warthodson at aol.com Sat Aug 8 12:09:14 2020 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 18:09:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets In-Reply-To: References: <282943314.1035096.1596740245422@mail.yahoo.com> <909215c5-9a73-f87b-7b4f-0cf68a8a8601@comcast.net> <0d9c01d66ca2$f983e240$ec8ba6c0$@gmail.com> <000a01d66ca6$8c9982d0$a5cc8870$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <1190293612.229412.1596910154649@mail.yahoo.com> Michael,Sorry for the slow reply. I have 2/3 of the jack handle set you are looking for. I have the top & middle bars in the photo you sent below. They appear to be in good condition. They do not have any identifying markings on them.Make me a fair offer. Shipping & insurance will be extra.?Gary Hodson? -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter via Healeys To: Healeys Sent: Fri, Aug 7, 2020 4:48 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I should have added a picture of what the original jack handle set looks like.The response from people offering to sell a set has been, shall we say, underwhelming.I guess I'm heading into it again ...At least now I have the necessary materials. M On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had one. I have something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army many moons ago. I carry that plus a small scissors which will do to raise the car enough to get the other jack in place.However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack Handles. But, are they what you need??Simon?From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert Begani via Healeys Sent: 07 August 2020 11:10 To: 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets?Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe keeping. Never did have a handle.?Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from Sears in a? nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in between the tire and the battery in my BJ8.? Lightly used, but, really works when you need it.?Bob BeganiBJ8 67?From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets?I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality.On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life.? -Roland?On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys wrote: I don't even have a jack.?Mike M.?On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter wrote: ??Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell??M_______________________________________________ ?_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My bar, the top bar in your photo,? measures 20.75" long.?Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2020 1:09 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Michael,Sorry for the slow reply. I have 2/3 of the jack handle set you are looking for. I have the top & middle bars in the photo you sent below. They appear to be in good condition. They do not have any identifying markings on them.Make me a fair offer. Shipping & insurance will be extra.?Gary Hodson? -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter via Healeys To: Healeys Sent: Fri, Aug 7, 2020 4:48 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I should have added a picture of what the original jack handle set looks like.The response from people offering to sell a set has been, shall we say, underwhelming.I guess I'm heading into it again ...At least now I have the necessary materials. M On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had one. I have something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army many moons ago. I carry that plus a small scissors which will do to raise the car enough to get the other jack in place.However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack Handles. But, are they what you need??Simon?From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert Begani via Healeys Sent: 07 August 2020 11:10 To: 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets?Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe keeping. Never did have a handle.?Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from Sears in a? nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in between the tire and the battery in my BJ8.? Lightly used, but, really works when you need it.?Bob BeganiBJ8 67?From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets?I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality.On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life.? -Roland?On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys wrote: I don't even have a jack.?Mike M.?On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter wrote: ??Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell??M_______________________________________________ ?_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 2:18 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Michael,? I just spotted a discrepancy. My bar, the top bar in your photo,? measures 20.75" long.? Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2020 1:09 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Michael, Sorry for the slow reply. I have 2/3 of the jack handle set you are looking for. I have the top & middle bars in the photo you sent below. They appear to be in good condition. They do not have any identifying markings on them. Make me a fair offer. Shipping & insurance will be extra.? Gary Hodson? -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter via Healeys To: Healeys Sent: Fri, Aug 7, 2020 4:48 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I should have added a picture of what the original jack handle set looks like. The response from people offering to sell a set has been, shall we say, underwhelming. I guess I'm heading into it again ... At least now I have the necessary materials. M On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had one. I have something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army many moons ago. I carry that plus a small scissors which will do to raise the car enough to get the other jack in place. However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack Handles. But, are they what you need?? Simon ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert Begani via Healeys Sent: 07 August 2020 11:10 To: 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets ? Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe keeping. Never did have a handle. ? Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from Sears in a? nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in between the tire and the battery in my BJ8.? Lightly used, but, really works when you need it. ? Bob Begani BJ8 67 ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets ? I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life.? -Roland ? On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys wrote: I don't even have a jack. ? Mike M. ? On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter wrote: ? ? Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? ? M _______________________________________________ ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Only an extra quid. (FSA is short for For Short Arms) Hope everyone is having a good day. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 2:18 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Michael, I just spotted a discrepancy. My bar, the top bar in your photo, measures 20.75" long. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2020 1:09 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Michael, Sorry for the slow reply. I have 2/3 of the jack handle set you are looking for. I have the top & middle bars in the photo you sent below. They appear to be in good condition. They do not have any identifying markings on them. Make me a fair offer. Shipping & insurance will be extra. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter via Healeys To: Healeys Sent: Fri, Aug 7, 2020 4:48 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I should have added a picture of what the original jack handle set looks like. [cid:image001.png at 01D66D95.E37CA600] The response from people offering to sell a set has been, shall we say, underwhelming. I guess I'm heading into it again ... At least now I have the necessary materials. M On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had one. I have something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army many moons ago. I carry that plus a small scissors which will do to raise the car enough to get the other jack in place. However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack Handles. But, are they what you need?? Simon From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Robert Begani via Healeys Sent: 07 August 2020 11:10 To: 'Bob Spidell' >; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe keeping. Never did have a handle. Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from Sears in a nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in between the tire and the battery in my BJ8. Lightly used, but, really works when you need it. Bob Begani BJ8 67 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life. -Roland On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys > wrote: I don't even have a jack. Mike M. On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter > wrote: Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? M _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Very desirable!Gary -----Original Message----- From: Perry To: warthodson at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2020 2:09 pm Subject: RE: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets #yiv0631823066 #yiv0631823066 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv0631823066 #yiv0631823066 p.yiv0631823066MsoNormal, #yiv0631823066 li.yiv0631823066MsoNormal, #yiv0631823066 div.yiv0631823066MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0631823066 a:link, #yiv0631823066 span.yiv0631823066MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0631823066 .yiv0631823066MsoChpDefault {} _filtered {}#yiv0631823066 div.yiv0631823066WordSection1 {}#yiv0631823066 GaryThe one you have was specifically supplied by Austin under part number FSA 2075 to new owners that had short arms??? Only an extra quid.? (FSA is short for For Short Arms)Hope everyone is having a good day.Perry ?Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ?From: warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 2:18 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets ?Michael,? I just spotted a discrepancy. My bar, the top bar in your photo,? measures 20.75" long.?Gary Hodson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sun Aug 9 14:44:42 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:44:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100M in Sedona Arizona Message-ID: Listers Just got a call from an old friend that was recently (about 3 weeks ago) traveling in Sedona Arizona. He told me that he met a fellow there that owns a 100M. Apparently didn?t get the owners name (Steve forgets a lot) or color of the car since the car was not present at the encounter. Anyway just wanted to pass out one ATTABOY to whomever you are. Steve was impressed by your interest, your level of knowledge of all things Healey, and caring enough to talk to a stranger about one of the things you obviously love. You meet some really nice people out there and most of them own an Austin Healey Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Sun Aug 9 18:01:30 2020 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:01:30 +1200 Subject: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets In-Reply-To: References: <282943314.1035096.1596740245422@mail.yahoo.com> <909215c5-9a73-f87b-7b4f-0cf68a8a8601@comcast.net> <0d9c01d66ca2$f983e240$ec8ba6c0$@gmail.com> <000a01d66ca6$8c9982d0$a5cc8870$@alexarevel.plus.com> <1190293612.229412.1596910154649@mail.yahoo.com> <1217093902.242097.1596910455396@mail.yahoo.com>, <20200808191032.0F4DBA14AC@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <001201d66ea9$681abf00$38503d00$@xtra.co.nz> The imaginative mind boggles. ? From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: Sunday, 9 August 2020 7:19 a.m. To: Perry via Healeys ; warthodson at aol.com; Perry Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Being military I?ve heard of ?short arms? before, but I had never thought they might be used to operate a jack handle... _____ From: Healeys > on behalf of Perry via Healeys > Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 7:09 PM To: warthodson at aol.com > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Gary The one you have was specifically supplied by Austin under part number FSA 2075 to new owners that had short arms?? Only an extra quid. (FSA is short for For Short Arms) Hope everyone is having a good day. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 2:18 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Michael, I just spotted a discrepancy. My bar, the top bar in your photo, measures 20.75" long. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2020 1:09 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Michael, Sorry for the slow reply. I have 2/3 of the jack handle set you are looking for. I have the top & middle bars in the photo you sent below. They appear to be in good condition. They do not have any identifying markings on them. Make me a fair offer. Shipping & insurance will be extra. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter via Healeys > To: Healeys > Sent: Fri, Aug 7, 2020 4:48 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I should have added a picture of what the original jack handle set looks like. The response from people offering to sell a set has been, shall we say, underwhelming. I guess I'm heading into it again ... At least now I have the necessary materials. M On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had one. I have something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army many moons ago. I carry that plus a small scissors which will do to raise the car enough to get the other jack in place. However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack Handles. But, are they what you need?? Simon From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Robert Begani via Healeys Sent: 07 August 2020 11:10 To: 'Bob Spidell' >; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe keeping. Never did have a handle. Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from Sears in a nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in between the tire and the battery in my BJ8. Lightly used, but, really works when you need it. Bob Begani BJ8 67 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life. -Roland On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys > wrote: I don't even have a jack. Mike M. On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter > wrote: Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? M _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson via Healeys Sent: Monday, 10 August 2020 10:02 AM To: 'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE'; 'Perry via Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets The imaginative mind boggles. ? From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: Sunday, 9 August 2020 7:19 a.m. To: Perry via Healeys ; warthodson at aol.com; Perry Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Being military I?ve heard of ?short arms? before, but I had never thought they might be used to operate a jack handle... _____ From: Healeys on behalf of Perry via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 7:09 PM To: warthodson at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Gary The one you have was specifically supplied by Austin under part number FSA 2075 to new owners that had short arms?? Only an extra quid. (FSA is short for For Short Arms) Hope everyone is having a good day. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 2:18 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Michael, I just spotted a discrepancy. My bar, the top bar in your photo, measures 20.75" long. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2020 1:09 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Michael, Sorry for the slow reply. I have 2/3 of the jack handle set you are looking for. I have the top & middle bars in the photo you sent below. They appear to be in good condition. They do not have any identifying markings on them. Make me a fair offer. Shipping & insurance will be extra. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter via Healeys To: Healeys Sent: Fri, Aug 7, 2020 4:48 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I should have added a picture of what the original jack handle set looks like. The response from people offering to sell a set has been, shall we say, underwhelming. I guess I'm heading into it again ... At least now I have the necessary materials. M On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had one. I have something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army many moons ago. I carry that plus a small scissors which will do to raise the car enough to get the other jack in place. However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack Handles. But, are they what you need?? Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert Begani via Healeys Sent: 07 August 2020 11:10 To: 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe keeping. Never did have a handle. Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from Sears in a nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in between the tire and the battery in my BJ8. Lightly used, but, really works when you need it. Bob Begani BJ8 67 From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life. -Roland On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys wrote: I don't even have a jack. Mike M. On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter wrote: Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? M _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A?person who arms do not reach far enough down to get to the money in the bottom of their pockets. This prevents them from paying for a round of drinks. i.e. George is a short arm he avoids paying for anything.?? No offense intended to Gary who keeps a credit card in his shirt pocket to pay for the next round of jack handles. He did mention a bar in his email?? I just spotted a discrepancy. My bar, the top bar in your photo,? measures 20.75" long.? See even his BAR is much longer than Michaels. Perhaps wearing this mask and rebreathing my breakfast fumes all day long has hampered my ability to type coherently. ? OK back to other important ?Healey matters? Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 8:20 PM To: 'Mark Donaldson'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Reminds me of my early days in the Australian army when we all had to attend a ?short arm? parade. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson via Healeys Sent: Monday, 10 August 2020 10:02 AM To: 'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE'; 'Perry via Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets The imaginative mind boggles.? ? From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: Sunday, 9 August 2020 7:19 a.m. To: Perry via Healeys ; warthodson at aol.com; Perry Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Being military I?ve heard of ?short arms? before, but I had never thought they might be used to operate a jack handle... From: Healeys on behalf of Perry via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 7:09 PM To: warthodson at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets ? Gary The one you have was specifically supplied by Austin under part number FSA 2075 to new owners that had short arms??? Only an extra quid.? (FSA is short for For Short Arms) Hope everyone is having a good day. Perry ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 2:18 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets ? Michael,? I just spotted a discrepancy. My bar, the top bar in your photo,? measures 20.75" long.? Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2020 1:09 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Michael, Sorry for the slow reply. I have 2/3 of the jack handle set you are looking for. I have the top & middle bars in the photo you sent below. They appear to be in good condition. They do not have any identifying markings on them. Make me a fair offer. Shipping & insurance will be extra.? Gary Hodson? -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter via Healeys To: Healeys Sent: Fri, Aug 7, 2020 4:48 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I should have added a picture of what the original jack handle set looks like. The response from people offering to sell a set has been, shall we say, underwhelming. I guess I'm heading into it again ... At least now I have the necessary materials. ? M ? ? On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had one. I have something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army many moons ago. I carry that plus a small scissors which will do to raise the car enough to get the other jack in place. However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack Handles. But, are they what you need?? Simon ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert Begani via Healeys Sent: 07 August 2020 11:10 To: 'Bob Spidell' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets ? Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe keeping. Never did have a handle. ? Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from Sears in a? nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in between the tire and the battery in my BJ8.? Lightly used, but, really works when you need it. ? Bob Begani BJ8 67 ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets ? I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life.? -Roland ? On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys wrote: I don't even have a jack. ? Mike M. ? On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter wrote: ? ? Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? ? M _______________________________________________ ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com ? Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I hope this euphemistic term now makes sense. ? Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Perry Sent: Monday, 10 August 2020 12:54 p.m. To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; 'Mark Donaldson' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets OK you guys? Here is where I was going?. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Short Arm ?Short Arm unknown. A person who arms do not reach far enough down to get to the money in the bottom of their pockets. This prevents them from paying for a round of drinks. i.e. George is a short arm he avoids paying for anything. ? No offense intended to Gary who keeps a credit card in his shirt pocket to pay for the next round of jack handles. He did mention a bar in his email?? I just spotted a discrepancy. My bar, the top bar in your photo, measures 20.75" long.? See even his BAR is much longer than Michaels. Perhaps wearing this mask and rebreathing my breakfast fumes all day long has hampered my ability to type coherently. ? OK back to other important ?Healey matters? Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 8:20 PM To: 'Mark Donaldson' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Reminds me of my early days in the Australian army when we all had to attend a ?short arm? parade. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson via Healeys Sent: Monday, 10 August 2020 10:02 AM To: 'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE'; 'Perry via Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets The imaginative mind boggles. ? From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Sent: Sunday, 9 August 2020 7:19 a.m. To: Perry via Healeys >; warthodson at aol.com ; Perry > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Being military I?ve heard of ?short arms? before, but I had never thought they might be used to operate a jack handle... From: Healeys > on behalf of Perry via Healeys > Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 7:09 PM To: warthodson at aol.com > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Gary The one you have was specifically supplied by Austin under part number FSA 2075 to new owners that had short arms?? Only an extra quid. (FSA is short for For Short Arms) Hope everyone is having a good day. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 2:18 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Michael, I just spotted a discrepancy. My bar, the top bar in your photo, measures 20.75" long. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2020 1:09 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Michael, Sorry for the slow reply. I have 2/3 of the jack handle set you are looking for. I have the top & middle bars in the photo you sent below. They appear to be in good condition. They do not have any identifying markings on them. Make me a fair offer. Shipping & insurance will be extra. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter via Healeys > To: Healeys > Sent: Fri, Aug 7, 2020 4:48 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I should have added a picture of what the original jack handle set looks like. The response from people offering to sell a set has been, shall we say, underwhelming. I guess I'm heading into it again ... At least now I have the necessary materials. M On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: I forget what they?re supposed to look like as have never had one. I have something similar which I ?borrowed? from the army many moons ago. I carry that plus a small scissors which will do to raise the car enough to get the other jack in place. However??..British eBay does show some hits for Shelley Jack Handles. But, are they what you need?? Simon From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Robert Begani via Healeys Sent: 07 August 2020 11:10 To: 'Bob Spidell' >; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets Agreed, my Shelly Jack is in the tool box in my garage for safe keeping. Never did have a handle. Many years ago in the 80?s I bought a small scissors jack from Sears in a nice plastic carrying case which fits nicely in between the tire and the battery in my BJ8. Lightly used, but, really works when you need it. Bob Begani BJ8 67 From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early Jack Handle Sets I'll add that you REALLY want a geared scissor jack; I don't care what the jack's rated for, they're almost useless to lift a Healey (unless you're really a brute). I don't know why--maybe because they cost a few more bucks--but they're almost impossible to find anymore (I bought one for each of my cars years ago). Ex: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KWLNNV4 I have a similar one with an electric motor I keep in my Mustang. ps. I'm guessing Michael wants a Shelley for originality. On 8/6/2020 3:57 PM, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys wrote: You don't really Want to use a shelly jack. It's for originality and looks only. Get a small scissors jack from a small car from the 90s or similar. It might save your life. -Roland On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM Michael MacLean via Healeys > wrote: I don't even have a jack. Mike M. On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 10:52:24 AM PDT, Michael Salter > wrote: Before I again launch into the time consuming process of making a jack handle set for the Shelley jack on the 100 that I'm finishing up does anyone by chance have one that they are willing to sell? M _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Transmission and clutch were removed, revised and installed. The seals on the overdrive were changed but my mechanic preferred to temporarily disconnect it (electricity cut off). Problem solved momentarily. Now when engaging second gear, the RPMs drop a little like if the overdrive activates even though is disconnected (this only happens in second gear). After driving a few miles we get the same slippage (the engine revs but car won?t move) only when engaging reverse. If the engine is turned off and then on, then reverse works. Any thoughts? Thanks, Rafael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sentenac.rw at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 22:26:50 2020 From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com (sentenac.rw at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2020 21:26:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Transmission / Overdrive or Clutch slippage In-Reply-To: <040701d66ebf$f0077dc0$d0167940$@yahoo.es> References: <040701d66ebf$f0077dc0$d0167940$.ref@yahoo.es> <040701d66ebf$f0077dc0$d0167940$@yahoo.es> Message-ID: Lots of puzzling symptoms but your last sentence of your last paragraph strongly suggests something electrical, such as that there is some electrical connection to the overdrive solenoid even though it is supposedly disconnected. Possibly a malfunctioning relay? the overdrive isn't working as it should but it appears to be working as it shouldn't. Turning the ignition off 'resets' something, at least temporarily. -Roland On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 21:42:48 -0500, you wrote: ........ > >Problem solved momentarily. Now when engaging second gear, the RPMs drop a >little like if the overdrive activates even though is disconnected (this >only happens in second gear). After driving a few miles we get the same >slippage (the engine revs but car won?t move) only when engaging reverse. If >the engine is turned off and then on, then reverse works. > >Any thoughts? > >Thanks, > >Rafael > > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Aug 9 22:38:31 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 21:38:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Transmission / Overdrive or Clutch slippage In-Reply-To: References: <040701d66ebf$f0077dc0$d0167940$.ref@yahoo.es> <040701d66ebf$f0077dc0$d0167940$@yahoo.es> Message-ID: <88f13f80-a223-2512-5cac-3c41a29a2c2b@comcast.net> This is pretty bizarre. I'm not sure I'm following the symptoms and attempted remedies, but if we assume you clutch isn't slipping--shouldn't be after two rebuilds--then the 'slipping' could be the cone clutch in the overdrive. When the OD is not engaged--i.e. the switch isn't 'on'--the cone clutch is held locked together by 8 (IIRC) very strong springs and the OD acts for all intents and purposes as a solid shaft. Like any clutch, the cone clutch can wear out and slip; this is the only thing that possibly fits the symptoms if I'm understanding them correctly. Bob On 8/9/2020 9:26 PM, sentenac.rw--- via Healeys wrote: > Lots of puzzling symptoms but your last sentence of your last > paragraph strongly suggests something electrical, such as that there > is some electrical connection to the overdrive solenoid even though it > is supposedly disconnected. Possibly a malfunctioning relay? the > overdrive isn't working as it should but it appears to be working as > it shouldn't. Turning the ignition off 'resets' something, at least > temporarily. > > -Roland > > On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 21:42:48 -0500, you wrote: > > ........ >> Problem solved?momentarily. Now when engaging second gear, the RPMs drop a >> little like if the overdrive activates even though is disconnected (this >> only happens in second gear). After driving a few miles we get the same >> slippage (the engine revs but car won?t move) only when engaging reverse. If >> the engine is turned off and then on, then reverse works. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rafael >> >> From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Aug 10 00:15:22 2020 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:15:22 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Transmission / Overdrive or Clutch slippage In-Reply-To: <040701d66ebf$f0077dc0$d0167940$@yahoo.es> References: <040701d66ebf$f0077dc0$d0167940$.ref@yahoo.es> <040701d66ebf$f0077dc0$d0167940$@yahoo.es> Message-ID: Worn OD-clutch? Kees Oudesluijs Op 10-8-2020 om 04:42 schreef Rafael Abugattas via Healeys: > > Hi all, > > We are suffering what seems to be strange transmission / overdrive > problem or clutch slippage. > > A few months ago, we finished restoring my 1962 Tricarb BT7. Before > the restoration the? overdrive was operational. > > On initial test runs, the car run fine but the overdrive did not work. > On further tests and suddenly, when disengaging the clutch on any > gear, the car revved but didn?t move. No smell of burning clutch, just > slippage > > The transmission and clutch were removed from the car. The clutch was > redone, adjusted and tested. > > Problem momentarily solved but overdrive still nonoperational. After > further tests the same slippage problem appeared again. Transmission > and clutch were removed, revised and installed. The seals on the > overdrive were changed but my mechanic preferred to temporarily > disconnect it (electricity cut off). > > Problem solved?momentarily. Now when engaging second gear, the RPMs > drop a little like if the overdrive activates even though is > disconnected (this only happens in second gear). After driving a few > miles we get the same slippage (the engine revs but car won?t move) > only when engaging reverse. If the engine is turned off and then on, > then reverse works. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > > Rafael > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frogeye at porterscustom.com Mon Aug 10 03:55:08 2020 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:55:08 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Transmission / Overdrive or Clutch slippage Message-ID: <0s3djkgwmdngqtbd0a5exte7.1597053308689@email.android.com> A couple possibilities... low OD pump pressure, binding OD springs, wrong lubricant..these will cause "free wheeling" On August 10, 2020, at 12:15 AM, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys wrote: Worn OD-clutch? Kees Oudesluijs Op 10-8-2020 om 04:42 schreef Rafael Abugattas via Healeys: Hi all, We are suffering what seems to be strange transmission / overdrive problem or clutch slippage. A few months ago, we finished restoring my 1962 Tricarb BT7. Before the restoration the? overdrive was operational. On initial test runs, the car run fine but the overdrive did not work. On further tests and suddenly, when disengaging the clutch on any gear, the car revved but didn?t move. No smell of burning clutch, just slippage The transmission and clutch were removed from the car. The clutch was redone, adjusted and tested. Problem momentarily solved but overdrive still nonoperational. After further tests the same slippage problem appeared again. Transmission and clutch were removed, revised and installed. The seals on the overdrive were changed but my mechanic preferred to temporarily disconnect it (electricity cut off). Problem solved?momentarily. Now when engaging second gear, the RPMs drop a little like if the overdrive activates even though is disconnected (this only happens in second gear). After driving a few miles we get the same slippage (the engine revs but car won?t move) only when engaging reverse. If the engine is turned off and then on, then reverse works. Any thoughts? Thanks, Rafael ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From warthodson at aol.com Mon Aug 10 08:24:05 2020 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 14:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] King Dick jack References: <1641368829.715694.1597069445052.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1641368829.715694.1597069445052@mail.yahoo.com> I have a King Dick jack, part # SF? ?B1077 which I believe is original to late BN1 & early BN2 (1955). It appears to the in good condition. I will make it available to the first fair & reasonable offer, plus shipping.Contact me off list with offers or questions.Thanks,Gary Hodson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Aug 10 08:54:58 2020 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (ahbn6 at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:54:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [FWD: Looking for missing parts] In-Reply-To: <20200808101907.c3835e39574da422eb232c082f9ae3f1.45bc707a31.wbe@email11.secureserver.net> References: <20200808101907.c3835e39574da422eb232c082f9ae3f1.45bc707a31.wbe@email11.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <004201d66f26$37c13e60$a743bb20$@verizon.net> Can someone help this guy out? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Looking for missing parts From: Chris Smith > Date: Sat, August 08, 2020 12:53 pm To: john at healey6.com Hello John, I came across your website somewhere and kept it under the heading of ?maybe useful in the future?. Well maybe that time is now .. I?m looking for two items for my BJ8 late model: Jack with (or without) rod, model LJ225 with stamp either CA259 or CA311. Moss motors sells a vinyl-type storage kit, which I can buy if required. Tool kit with tools. I don?t actually know, and have been unable to find out, what the original tool kit contained and so that?s a missing requirement as well. Any help you might be able to provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Chris 650 464 1047 (mobile) Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britfan1 at epix.net Mon Aug 10 10:35:32 2020 From: britfan1 at epix.net (S.Carr) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:35:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle Message-ID: My mechanic (theoretically retired but who takes the occasional job that nobody else around here will touch) is working on a Jaguar SS-100. The RH (driver?s) side headlamp is ?normal? ? two wires. What on earth is this contraption on the LH headlamp? He?s never seen a headlamp with a solenoid and these other bits. ( I once had a late-?30s MG-SA and I don?t remember the headlamps having anything like this!) TIA, Sarah Carr BN1 in PA Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 85458DD774A8410FBD5668ACD51A134A.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58464 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I read years ago that there are some identifying marks that can help identify a shock's 'provenance,' but I've long since lost the reference and/or brain cells; does anyone have a handy Armstrong parts table, or know the secret to identifying a given shock's application? TIA, Bob From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Mon Aug 10 10:51:32 2020 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:51:32 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue Message-ID: <000501d66f36$824c8ba0$86e5a2e0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Some free advice would be much appreciated??. I am in France, so out of touch with my normal garages/suppliers etc etc??Thus more out of touch than usual. So, my brother-in-law has bought an electric scooter. A fine looking big thing that reminds me of the Honda Spacey that my wife occasionally used about 25 years ago. A two seater. This thing is two years old, +/-, so let?s say that the batteries are 30 months old. He bought the bike for ?1 so it was hardly a great investment. (Delivery cost him an expensive bottle of red!). The batteries seem to be quite dead, useless. I?d call that very odd. Apparently the PO was a bit of an ass and didn?t look after bike or batteries at all well. Nevertheless, stone dead so soon? I seem to recall a discussion on this list some years back that pertained to similar batteries. Are they dead or merely sleeping?? Plugging in the charger does nothing. Is there not something clever that one can do to jolt these things back to life? A new set of batteries is +/-?1000:00 which seems a bit disproportionate in the circs? Any ideas would be gratefully received?.. Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of S.Carr via Healeys Sent: 10 August 2020 18:36 To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle My mechanic (theoretically retired but who takes the occasional job that nobody else around here will touch) is working on a Jaguar SS-100. The RH (driver?s) side headlamp is ?normal? ? two wires. What on earth is this contraption on the LH headlamp? He?s never seen a headlamp with a solenoid and these other bits. ( I once had a late-?30s MG-SA and I don?t remember the headlamps having anything like this!) TIA, Sarah Carr BN1 in PA Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58464 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 41955 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Aug 10 10:59:21 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:59:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue In-Reply-To: <000501d66f36$824c8ba0$86e5a2e0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000501d66f36$824c8ba0$86e5a2e0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: What kind of batteries are they (I'm guessing NiMH)? If they are NiMH or, less likely LiON, I don't think there is any chance of restoring them; the only batteries that I know of that can sometimes be resurrected are good ol' lead-acid, which sometimes can be desulphated (whether they'll ever get the original capacity back is questionable). LiON batteries, esp. older ones, tend to grow 'tentacles' and short out internally; I would not mess with them at all as they can burn explosively. NiMH I know less about, but I've never heard to them being recovered, only recycled. Bob On 8/10/2020 9:51 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: > > Some free advice would be much appreciated??. > > I am in France, so out of touch with my normal garages/suppliers etc > etc??Thus more out of touch than usual. > > So, my brother-in-law has bought an electric scooter. A fine looking > big thing that reminds me of the Honda Spacey that my wife > occasionally used about 25 years ago. A two seater. > > This thing is two years old, +/-, so let?s say that the batteries are > 30 months old. > > He bought the bike for ?1 so it was hardly a great investment. > (Delivery cost him an expensive bottle of red!). > > The batteries seem to be quite dead, useless. I?d call that very odd. > Apparently the PO was a bit of an ass and didn?t look after bike or > batteries at all well. > > Nevertheless, stone dead so soon? > > I seem to recall a discussion on this list some years back that > pertained to similar batteries. Are they dead or merely sleeping?? > Plugging in the charger does nothing. Is there not something clever > that one can do to jolt these things back to life? > > A new set of batteries is +/-?1000:00 which seems a bit > disproportionate in the circs? > > Any ideas would be gratefully received?.. > > Thanks, > > Simon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Aug 10 11:05:58 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 13:05:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle In-Reply-To: <20200810163646.3F6FDA069F@autox.team.net> References: <20200810163646.3F6FDA069F@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <829A00B5-94CC-4E49-A860-E9F7F815F1EC@aol.com> It a solenoid dip switch on the headlight. Another Lucas gem. Perry Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:36 PM, S.Carr via Healeys wrote: > > ? > My mechanic (theoretically retired but who takes the occasional job that nobody else around here will touch) is working on a Jaguar SS-100. The RH (driver?s) side headlamp is ?normal? ? two wires. What on earth is this contraption on the LH headlamp? He?s never seen a headlamp with a solenoid and these other bits. ( I once had a late-?30s MG-SA and I don?t remember the headlamps having anything like this!) > > TIA, > Sarah Carr > BN1 in PA > > <85458DD774A8410FBD5668ACD51A134A.jpg> > > > > <753DDE62DEA147D585BFEF19CE3B3B1D.jpg> > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > <85458DD774A8410FBD5668ACD51A134A.jpg> > <753DDE62DEA147D585BFEF19CE3B3B1D.jpg> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Aug 10 11:13:48 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 13:13:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle In-Reply-To: <20200810163646.3F6FDA069F@autox.team.net> References: <20200810163646.3F6FDA069F@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Pre war. Just saw one on ebay. Looks a lot like the one in question. Lucas ?L140 Prewar 8? Headlight With Solenoid Dip Beam Jaguar MG Flat Glass P Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: S.Carr via Healeys Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 12:36 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle My mechanic (theoretically retired but who takes the occasional job that nobody else around here will touch) is working on a Jaguar SS-100.? The RH (driver?s) side headlamp is ?normal? ? two wires.? What on earth is this contraption on the LH headlamp? He?s never seen a headlamp with a solenoid and these other bits. ( I once had a late-?30s MG-SA and I don?t remember the headlamps having anything like this!) 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Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: 10 August 2020 18:59 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue What kind of batteries are they (I'm guessing NiMH)? If they are NiMH or, less likely LiON, I don't think there is any chance of restoring them; the only batteries that I know of that can sometimes be resurrected are good ol' lead-acid, which sometimes can be desulphated (whether they'll ever get the original capacity back is questionable). LiON batteries, esp. older ones, tend to grow 'tentacles' and short out internally; I would not mess with them at all as they can burn explosively. NiMH I know less about, but I've never heard to them being recovered, only recycled. Bob On 8/10/2020 9:51 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: Some free advice would be much appreciated??. I am in France, so out of touch with my normal garages/suppliers etc etc??Thus more out of touch than usual. So, my brother-in-law has bought an electric scooter. A fine looking big thing that reminds me of the Honda Spacey that my wife occasionally used about 25 years ago. A two seater. This thing is two years old, +/-, so let?s say that the batteries are 30 months old. He bought the bike for ?1 so it was hardly a great investment. (Delivery cost him an expensive bottle of red!). The batteries seem to be quite dead, useless. I?d call that very odd. Apparently the PO was a bit of an ass and didn?t look after bike or batteries at all well. Nevertheless, stone dead so soon? I seem to recall a discussion on this list some years back that pertained to similar batteries. Are they dead or merely sleeping?? Plugging in the charger does nothing. Is there not something clever that one can do to jolt these things back to life? A new set of batteries is +/-?1000:00 which seems a bit disproportionate in the circs? Any ideas would be gratefully received?.. Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Manual WB-LYP40AHA Winston-Lithium-ion Batterie.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1680265 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jstmorris at yahoo.com Mon Aug 10 11:24:52 2020 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 17:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Armstrong Shock ID In-Reply-To: <64dbef8d-db6a-1095-a1f4-7577a86fcff6@comcast.net> References: <64dbef8d-db6a-1095-a1f4-7577a86fcff6@comcast.net> Message-ID: <944804537.2657622.1597080292709@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Bob; The 2 attached files contain the information you seek. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives On Monday, August 10, 2020, 12:51:24 p.m. EDT, Bob Spidell wrote: Listers, Years ago I acquired some parts from a guy cleaning out his garage in SF. As far as I can tell, they all came from a BJ8--certainly, the exhaust did--but I also got a couple front shocks and three rears. As one of my car's shocks was, er, 'retrofitted' with a larger bolt due to a stripped captive nut--I didn't have/think of helicoils at the time (and was under some time pressure)--I would like to have one of the front shocks rebuilt by WorldWide, but want to confirm it is indeed for a BJ8. I read years ago that there are some identifying marks that can help identify a shock's 'provenance,' but I've long since lost the reference and/or brain cells; does anyone have a handy Armstrong parts table, or know the secret to identifying a given shock's application? 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Name: Armstrong Shock Catalog.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 400051 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Aug 10 11:26:53 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:26:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Armstrong Shock ID In-Reply-To: <944804537.2657622.1597080292709@mail.yahoo.com> References: <64dbef8d-db6a-1095-a1f4-7577a86fcff6@comcast.net> <944804537.2657622.1597080292709@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks Scott! On 8/10/2020 10:24 AM, J. Scott Morris wrote: > Hi Bob; The 2 attached files contain the information you seek. > > --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives > > > On Monday, August 10, 2020, 12:51:24 p.m. EDT, Bob Spidell > wrote: > > > Listers, > > Years ago I acquired some parts from a guy cleaning out his garage in > SF. As far as I can tell, they all came from a BJ8--certainly, the > exhaust did--but I also got a couple front shocks and three rears. As > one of my car's shocks was, er, 'retrofitted' with a larger bolt due to > a stripped captive nut--I didn't have/think of helicoils at the time > (and was under some time pressure)--I would like to have one of the > front shocks rebuilt by WorldWide, but want to confirm it is indeed for > a BJ8. I read years ago that there are some identifying marks that can > help identify a shock's 'provenance,' but I've long since lost the > reference and/or brain cells; does anyone have a handy Armstrong parts > table, or know the secret to identifying a given shock's application? > > TIA, > Bob > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pdzwig at summaventures.com Mon Aug 10 11:32:46 2020 From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:32:46 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue In-Reply-To: <000501d66f36$824c8ba0$86e5a2e0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000501d66f36$824c8ba0$86e5a2e0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Simon, it depends how old it is. My wife and I have one in France that we bought about five or six years ago. The battery recharges fine - I did it last about a week ago - and it has largely been in storage. I would guess that it might be the charger that has seen better days. There should be an electric bike shop near you. I don't know where you are, but if there's a lot of cycling, particularly off-road there will be an e-bike shop. Get them to look at the charger. Unless they have been seriously mistreated the batteries don't usually suffer in that way - I assume it is an Li-Ion battery. ?1000 is a lot. We paid ?1700 for the bike, battery, helmets (4) etc. These days they are a lot cheaper! A charger shouldn't set him back a fortune. Hope this helps, Peter On 10/08/2020 17:51, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: > Some free advice would be much appreciated??. > > I am in France, so out of touch with my normal garages/suppliers etc > etc??Thus more out of touch than usual. > > So, my brother-in-law has bought an electric scooter. A fine looking big > thing that reminds me of the Honda Spacey that my wife occasionally used > about 25 years ago. A two seater. > > This thing is two years old, +/-, so let?s say that the batteries are 30 > months old. > > He bought the bike for ?1 so it was hardly a great investment. (Delivery > cost him an expensive bottle of red!). > > The batteries seem to be quite dead, useless. I?d call that very odd. > Apparently the PO was a bit of an ass and didn?t look after bike or > batteries at all well. > > Nevertheless, stone dead so soon? > > I seem to recall a discussion on this list some years back that > pertained to similar batteries. Are they dead or merely sleeping?? > Plugging in the charger does nothing. Is there not something clever that > one can do to jolt these things back to life? > > A new set of batteries is +/-?1000:00 which seems a bit disproportionate > in the circs? > > Any ideas would be gratefully received?.. > > Thanks, > > Simon > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pdzwig at summaventures.com > -- Dr. Peter Dzwig From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 11:56:21 2020 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:56:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle In-Reply-To: <000a01d66f37$69b65610$3d230230$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000a01d66f37$69b65610$3d230230$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Does the solonoid move the bulb? If it does I suspect it changes how the light hits the reflector and thus gives you a dipped/main beam. The fact that the headlight on has 2 wires Supports this as well as it is fitted on the left (away from on coming traffic) Rick Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:58 AM, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com wrote: > > ? > Does it, or did it ever, have after-market bulbs which would have fried its tender wiring? Plainly, not modern ones??but something which, by the standards of the time, actually produced some illumination but at the cost of too many amps?.. > If the two headlights are connected, which I?m pretty sure they must be, that might explain why there?s only one solenoid ie relay?.. > I am NOT much of an electrician to be sure, but that?d be my first suspicion. > Simon > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of S.Carr via Healeys > Sent: 10 August 2020 18:36 > To: healeys > Subject: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle > > My mechanic (theoretically retired but who takes the occasional job that nobody else around here will touch) is working on a Jaguar SS-100. The RH (driver?s) side headlamp is ?normal? ? two wires. What on earth is this contraption on the LH headlamp? He?s never seen a headlamp with a solenoid and these other bits. ( I once had a late-?30s MG-SA and I don?t remember the headlamps having anything like this!) > > TIA, > Sarah Carr > BN1 in PA > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Mon Aug 10 12:22:16 2020 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 11:22:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue In-Reply-To: <000501d66f36$824c8ba0$86e5a2e0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000501d66f36$824c8ba0$86e5a2e0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Simon: The most commented upon answer to the question of charging a dead battery has had to do with the Optima battery. I have been told by a sales person that they cannot be recharged when dead. Others have said, Yes, they can. The Optima batteries use an advanced form of AGM (Absorbent Glass Mat) technology called Spiralcell. This absorbent glass mat holds acid in place by absorbing it like a sponge. The process for bring a dead battery back to life involves connecting a good battery in parallel with the dead battery. This sends a message to the charger that there is a battery that needs charging. After the dead battery reaches a few volts of charge, the good battery can be disconnected and the charger should continue charging. I MAKE NO CLAIM THAT THIS PROCEDURE WOULD OR WOULD NOT WORK ON AN LiON BATTERY. (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 221,392 miles ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys To: 'Healeys' Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 9:51 AM Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue Some free advice would be much appreciated??. I am in France, so out of touch with my normal garages/suppliers etc etc??Thus more out of touch than usual. So, my brother-in-law has bought an electric scooter. A fine looking big thing that reminds me of the Honda Spacey that my wife occasionally used about 25 years ago. A two seater. This thing is two years old, +/-, so let?s say that the batteries are 30 months old. He bought the bike for ?1 so it was hardly a great investment. (Delivery cost him an expensive bottle of red!). The batteries seem to be quite dead, useless. I?d call that very odd. Apparently the PO was a bit of an ass and didn?t look after bike or batteries at all well. Nevertheless, stone dead so soon? I seem to recall a discussion on this list some years back that pertained to similar batteries. Are they dead or merely sleeping?? Plugging in the charger does nothing. Is there not something clever that one can do to jolt these things back to life? A new set of batteries is +/-?1000:00 which seems a bit disproportionate in the circs? Any ideas would be gratefully received?.. Thanks, Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Aug 10 12:34:08 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 14:34:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue In-Reply-To: References: <000501d66f36$824c8ba0$86e5a2e0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: I have used the slave battery technique that Len mentions below several times with varying results. Sometimes the dead one just remains that way! ? Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 2:23 PM To: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue ? Simon:? The most commented upon answer to the question of charging a dead battery has had to do with the Optima battery.? I have been told by a sales person that they cannot be recharged when dead.? Others have said, Yes, they can.? The Optima batteries use an advanced form of AGM (Absorbent Glass Mat) technology called Spiralcell.??This absorbent glass mat holds acid in place by absorbing it like a sponge.? The?process for bring a dead battery back to life involves connecting a good battery in parallel with the dead battery.? This sends a message to the charger that there is a battery that needs charging.? After the?dead battery reaches a few volts of charge, the good battery can be disconnected and the charger should continue charging.??I MAKE NO CLAIM THAT THIS PROCEDURE WOULD OR WOULD NOT WORK ON AN LiON?BATTERY.? ? (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ??????? 221,392 miles? ? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys To: 'Healeys' Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 9:51 AM Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey related batteries issue Some free advice would be much appreciated??. I am in France, so out of touch with my normal garages/suppliers etc etc??Thus more out of touch than usual. So, my brother-in-law has bought an electric scooter. A fine looking big thing that reminds me of the Honda Spacey that my wife occasionally used about 25 years ago. A two seater. This thing is two years old, +/-, so let?s say that the batteries are 30 months old. He bought the bike for ?1 so it was hardly a great investment. (Delivery cost him an expensive bottle of red!). The batteries seem to be quite dead, useless. I?d call that very odd. Apparently the PO was a bit of an ass and didn?t look after bike or batteries at all well. Nevertheless, stone dead so soon? I seem to recall a discussion on this list some years back that pertained to similar batteries. Are they dead or merely sleeping?? Plugging in the charger does nothing. Is there not something clever that one can do to jolt these things back to life? A new set of batteries is +/-?1000:00 which seems a bit disproportionate in the circs? Any ideas would be gratefully received?.. 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Sarah Carr BN1 in PA Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Richard Ewald Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 2:04 PM To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Cc: S.Carr; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle Does the solonoid ?move the bulb? ?If it does I suspect it changes how the light hits the reflector and thus gives you a dipped/main beam.? The fact that the headlight on has 2 wires? Supports this as well as it is fitted on the left (away from on coming traffic) Rick Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ah100register at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 16:07:19 2020 From: ah100register at gmail.com (John Harper) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 23:07:19 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle In-Reply-To: <20200810163548.E7EFBA0CD0@autox.team.net> References: <20200810163548.E7EFBA0CD0@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Sarah It is a mechanical dip. Rather than having two filaments these only had one. To dip the whole reflector unit tilted. This was fitted to the off side unit with a further contact that switched off the nearside; permanently fixed bulb (lamp). In the 'up' position both headlamps would be on but when dipped just the offside lamp lit pointed down and the nearside was off On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 at 17:35, S.Carr via Healeys wrote: > My mechanic (theoretically retired but who takes the occasional job that > nobody else around here will touch) is working on a Jaguar SS-100. The RH > (driver?s) side headlamp is ?normal? ? two wires. What on earth is this > contraption on the LH headlamp? He?s never seen a headlamp with a solenoid > and these other bits. ( I once had a late-?30s MG-SA and I don?t remember > the headlamps having anything like this!) > > > > TIA, > > Sarah Carr > > BN1 in PA > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com > > -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 85458DD774A8410FBD5668ACD51A134A.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58464 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Headlight With Solenoid Dip Beam Jaguar MG Flat Glass P Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: S.Carr via Healeys Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 12:36 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle My mechanic (theoretically retired but who takes the occasional job that nobody else around here will touch) is working on a Jaguar SS-100. The RH (driver?s) side headlamp is ?normal? ? two wires. What on earth is this contraption on the LH headlamp? He?s never seen a headlamp with a solenoid and these other bits. ( I once had a late-?30s MG-SA and I don?t remember the headlamps having anything like this!) TIA, Sarah Carr BN1 in PA Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58464 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Scott Morris wrote: Hi Bob; The 2 attached files contain the information you seek. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives On Monday, August 10, 2020, 12:51:24 p.m. EDT, Bob Spidell wrote: -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Mon Aug 10 21:51:27 2020 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 03:51:27 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Tenax - Message-ID: Anyone looking for the early style of Tenax fasteners, with the serrated head as found on the BN1 to BN6, to complete a Concours restoration, I have 18 of them available, contact me at: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Jean [cid:image001.jpg at 01D66F68.C68894D0] Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Power to the solenoid produces noise > but no movement, so it will be ignored and both lights wired straight to > the switch (the owner will never drive the car after dark). Ah, British > engineering?. > > > > Sarah Carr > > BN1 in PA > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *John Harper > *Sent: *Monday, August 10, 2020 6:14 PM > *To: *S.Carr > *Cc: *healeys > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle > > > > Sarah > > > > It is a mechanical dip. Rather than having two filaments these only had > one. To dip the whole reflector unit tilted. This was fitted to the off > side unit with a further contact that switched off the nearside; > permanently fixed bulb (lamp). In the 'up' position both headlamps would be > on but when dipped just the offside lamp lit pointed down and the nearside > was off > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/nmcd10 at gmail.com > > > > -- ____________________ Neil & Pam McDonald Email: nmcd10 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Scott Morris wrote: > > Hi Bob; The 2 attached files contain the information you seek. > > --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives > > > On Monday, August 10, 2020, 12:51:24 p.m. EDT, Bob Spidell > wrote: > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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After the dead battery reaches a few volts of charge, the good battery can be disconnected and the charger should continue charging. I've had similar bad luck with a smart charger that was too smart for itself. The method I've used is to use a non-smart (stupid?) manual charger to kick it with some juice to bring it up to the smart-charger's minimum voltage, then remove the non-smart charger and finish with the smart charger. Kent McLean 1956 100 BN2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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After the dead > battery reaches a few volts of charge, the good battery can be disconnected > and the charger should continue charging. > > > I've had similar bad luck with a smart charger that was too smart for > itself. The method I've used is to use a non-smart (stupid?) manual charger > to kick it with some juice to bring it up to the smart-charger's minimum > voltage, then remove the non-smart charger and finish with the smart > charger. > > Kent McLean > 1956 100 BN2 > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Wed Aug 12 13:33:36 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:33:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] raising the fulcrum point In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Go ahead On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 11:52 AM HealeyRick wrote: > Nice work, Ira. Mind if I share it on our club website and facebook page? > > Thanks, > Rick Neville > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 1:43 PM i erbs via Healeys > wrote: > >> someone either on this list or FB asked about how I raised the fulcrum >> point on my seats to lean the seat back and make more room for taller >> drivers. >> I realized others may want to see it too. I also had inflatable lumbar >> supports put into the seat backs when I had them recovered. Adds more arm >> length and leg room, plus more comfortable to have some lean. >> Moving to a bigger property next month and will have room for all my toys >> in one spot. >> Ira Erbs >> Portland,OR >> _______ _______ >> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) >> (_________________________) >> BT7 engine and disk brakes >> >> >> 1967 MGB [image: MG] >> >> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti >> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Wed Aug 12 15:00:11 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:00:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] raising the fulcrum point In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: not my work, I wish I could find the creator to give them credit. I think J Caron sent it to mee. I hate not providing attributions. I bought the pumpable lumbar support from EBay, but a quick check I can't find it. Also I found that the lower hole in the seat back and the raised fulcrum, set the seat back rake to far for my comfort. Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:52 AM HealeyRick wrote: > Nice work, Ira. Mind if I share it on our club website and facebook page? > > Thanks, > Rick Neville > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 1:43 PM i erbs via Healeys > wrote: > >> someone either on this list or FB asked about how I raised the fulcrum >> point on my seats to lean the seat back and make more room for taller >> drivers. >> I realized others may want to see it too. I also had inflatable lumbar >> supports put into the seat backs when I had them recovered. Adds more arm >> length and leg room, plus more comfortable to have some lean. >> Moving to a bigger property next month and will have room for all my toys >> in one spot. >> Ira Erbs >> Portland,OR >> _______ _______ >> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) >> (_________________________) >> BT7 engine and disk brakes >> >> >> 1967 MGB [image: MG] >> >> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. 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URL: From emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk Wed Aug 12 16:02:33 2020 From: emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk (David Lodge) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 22:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle In-Reply-To: References: <20200810163548.E7EFBA0CD0@autox.team.net> <20200811142223.B05CAA0D6C@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <1370906285.1390135.1597269753629@mail.yahoo.com> My bet is a pre-war dipping headlight mechanism before they thought of double-filament bulbs! On Tuesday, 11 August 2020, 09:39:09 GMT-7, Neil McDonald via Healeys wrote: Lucas Prince of Darkness strikes again! Neil?BN6 recently soldVancouver, BC On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:22 AM S.Carr via Healeys wrote: Thanks to all for their responses!? Power to the solenoid produces noise but no movement, so it will be ignored and both lights wired straight to the switch (the owner will never drive the car after dark).? Ah, British engineering?. ? Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: John Harper Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:14 PM To: S.Carr Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] non-Healey puzzle ? Sarah ? It is a mechanical dip. Rather than having two filaments these only had one. To dip the whole reflector unit tilted. This was fitted?to the off side unit with a further contact that switched off the nearside; permanently fixed bulb (lamp). 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URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Aug 12 20:15:56 2020 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:15:56 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] raising the fulcrum point In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I cut a long wood wedge (shaped like a door stop) and put it between the seat and the runner. That works too but you'll be limited in the recline level. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Wed Aug 12 21:15:46 2020 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 15:15:46 +1200 Subject: [Healeys] raising the fulcrum point In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002101d67120$0ab7fb10$2027f130$@xtra.co.nz> Ira, This is what one of our members has done to his BN7. I am doing the same to my BT7 road-racer. All that is required is to fold up two opposed pieces of 16G mild steel. As you note, it makes things more comfortable for taller drivers . . . I am 188 cm ( 6? 2? to you folk.) Plan attached. Cheers Mark Ardmore NZ From: i erbs Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2020 5:39 a.m. To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] raising the fulcrum point someone either on this list or FB asked about how I raised the fulcrum point on my seats to lean the seat back and make more room for taller drivers. I realized others may want to see it too. I also had inflatable lumbar supports put into the seat backs when I had them recovered. Adds more arm length and leg room, plus more comfortable to have some lean. Moving to a bigger property next month and will have room for all my toys in one spot. Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dwflagg at juno.com Thu Aug 13 13:25:51 2020 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg at juno.com) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 19:25:51 GMT Subject: [Healeys] Healey Stuff Message-ID: <20200813.152551.5273.1@webmail11.dca.untd.com> In preparation for our move I have the following available: 1) a collection of parts catalogs, most with original Healey part numbers, membership directories '93/'94 thru 2003, a few Chatters, Healey Marque, and Austin-Healey club magazines, Including the '93 issue with Roger Moment's article on jacks, and assorted other Healey literature. Would probably fill 2 medium flat rate priority boxes. 2) 2 excellent, original BN1 with BN2 supplement survives manuals, one red and one blue. Also, have two reprints, one hard cover and one softcover. 3) Two copies (like new} of "Healey the Handsome Brute" 3) Commemorative programme Austin-Healey West 2nd annual meet. September 4 & 5, 1976. Guest of Honour Mr. Donald M. 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The 2004 Originality Guide (page 9) says that cars destined for ?continental export? had blue warning lights for the high beam and red for the ignition warning light. My car was shipped directly to California for sale by a dealer here. Is that considered ?continental export?? I just had my speedo repaired by Foreign Speedo. The little colored lens for the high beam warning light was missing since I bought the car. Preston told me they discovered a red lens inside and he reinstalled it. So, I am wondering if it should be blue or red? Since I have the gages out, now would be the time to make it right if I can find out what is right. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ron Fine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Thu Aug 13 20:42:39 2020 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 12:42:39 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color In-Reply-To: <9EBD689B3C464E58A07AF52BCEAB4925@Inspiron660> References: <9EBD689B3C464E58A07AF52BCEAB4925@Inspiron660> Message-ID: <00a401d671e4$93e2ba00$bba82e00$@tpg.com.au> Hello "continental export" means just that. Export to the Continent in the eyes of the British in the 1950s through to whenever, means Continental Europe. The high beam warning light on the BN3 is blue. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: Friday, 14 August 2020 12:27 PM To: Healey Mailing List Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color I need some help with the proper color for the high beam warning light in my '61 BN7. The 2004 Originality Guide (page 9) says that cars destined for "continental export" had blue warning lights for the high beam and red for the ignition warning light. My car was shipped directly to California for sale by a dealer here. Is that considered "continental export"? I just had my speedo repaired by Foreign Speedo. The little colored lens for the high beam warning light was missing since I bought the car. Preston told me they discovered a red lens inside and he reinstalled it. So, I am wondering if it should be blue or red? Since I have the gages out, now would be the time to make it right if I can find out what is right. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ron Fine -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Aug 13 20:43:33 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 19:43:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: seat back design In-Reply-To: <7B3B610E-EC64-4604-9EE4-10C2095C1585@twcny.rr.com> References: <7B3B610E-EC64-4604-9EE4-10C2095C1585@twcny.rr.com> Message-ID: I found the creator of these fine instructions and he has graciously given me permission to share them. he uploaded cleaner photos. Thank you Peter N. Carbone Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Peter N. Carbone Date: Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 3:34 AM Subject: Re: seat back design To: i erbs Ira, Speaking of Lumbar Support? I came up with this solution since I?ve been working at an upholstery shop. Peter On Aug 12, 2020, at 11:35 PM, i erbs wrote: Thalnk you. I want to be sure to give you credit. My seats are do.much more comfortable. I added a pump up lumbar support. On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 8:32 PM Peter N. Carbone wrote: > Ira, > Thanks for reaching out. > Yes I am the designer of this modification. > I was never happy with the upright driving position and developed this > solution in the interests of comfort. > It was one of the best improvements I made to the car. > I?ve attached some better images if that helps and I?ll send a few more of > the finished look tomorrow. > All the best, > Peter N. Carbone > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 12, 2020, at 8:07 PM, i erbs wrote: > > Hello, > I have been sharing these photos and wanted to provide attribution to the > creator and I was wondering if you are the person who created them? I have > been asked to write a story about what I did for the Healey club magazine. > I am an educator and IT guy and want to be sure I have permission and to > use the images? > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB [image: MG] > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Seat-Lower Back-3.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 120480 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Seat-Lower Back-1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 188984 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It > is that way on my BN6. > > Jean > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *Ron Fine > *Sent: *August 13, 2020 9:27 PM > *To: *Healey Mailing List > *Subject: *[Healeys] High beam warning light color > > I need some help with the proper color for the high beam warning light > in my ?61 BN7. > > The 2004 Originality Guide (page 9) says that cars destined for > ?continental export? had blue warning lights for the high beam and red > for the ignition warning light.? My car was shipped directly to > California for sale by a dealer here.? Is that considered ?continental > export?? > > I just had my speedo repaired by Foreign Speedo.? The little colored > lens for the high beam warning light was missing since I bought the > car.? Preston told me they discovered a red lens inside and he > reinstalled it. > > So, I am wondering if it should be blue or red?? Since I have the > gages out,? now would be the time to make it right if I can find out > what is right. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Ron Fine > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Thu Aug 13 22:50:34 2020 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Bruce Steele) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 21:50:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color In-Reply-To: <9EBD689B3C464E58A07AF52BCEAB4925@Inspiron660> References: <9EBD689B3C464E58A07AF52BCEAB4925@Inspiron660> Message-ID: <0be201d671f6$72444aa0$56ccdfe0$@roadrunner.com> Hi, Ron. According to Anderson and Moment, pg. 104, "On the right was the tachometer with a number on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the red (emphasis mine) high-beam warning light." Based on this, I used a red lens (a piece of stage light gel) when I had mine apart. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:27 PM To: Healey Mailing List Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color I need some help with the proper color for the high beam warning light in my '61 BN7. The 2004 Originality Guide (page 9) says that cars destined for "continental export" had blue warning lights for the high beam and red for the ignition warning light. My car was shipped directly to California for sale by a dealer here. Is that considered "continental export"? I just had my speedo repaired by Foreign Speedo. The little colored lens for the high beam warning light was missing since I bought the car. Preston told me they discovered a red lens inside and he reinstalled it. So, I am wondering if it should be blue or red? Since I have the gages out, now would be the time to make it right if I can find out what is right. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ron Fine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rianhey at btinternet.com Fri Aug 14 01:34:12 2020 From: rianhey at btinternet.com (Ian Hey) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 08:34:12 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color In-Reply-To: <0be201d671f6$72444aa0$56ccdfe0$@roadrunner.com> References: <9EBD689B3C464E58A07AF52BCEAB4925@Inspiron660> <0be201d671f6$72444aa0$56ccdfe0$@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <003b01d6720d$4e91d610$ebb58230$@btinternet.com> My handbook for Mk I & II, including BJ7, (part no AKD 3915) states: Ignition warning light When the ignition is switched on the light located in the tachometer face will glow red. .... Main beam warning light A red (or blue, Export) light located in the speedometer face glows when the headlights are switched on, with the two beams in the raised position. The light goes out when the headlights are dipped. The same source has diagrams for both left and right hand drive instruments and switches. The tachometer is always closest to the centre line of the car and has an ignition warning light fitted. The speedometer is always towards the outside of the car and has a headlight beam warning light fitted. Ian Hey From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bruce Steele Sent: 14 August 2020 05:51 To: 'Ron Fine' ; 'Healey Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] High beam warning light color Hi, Ron. According to Anderson and Moment, pg. 104, "On the right was the tachometer with a number on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the red (emphasis mine) high-beam warning light." Based on this, I used a red lens (a piece of stage light gel) when I had mine apart. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:27 PM To: Healey Mailing List > Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color I need some help with the proper color for the high beam warning light in my '61 BN7. The 2004 Originality Guide (page 9) says that cars destined for "continental export" had blue warning lights for the high beam and red for the ignition warning light. My car was shipped directly to California for sale by a dealer here. Is that considered "continental export"? I just had my speedo repaired by Foreign Speedo. The little colored lens for the high beam warning light was missing since I bought the car. Preston told me they discovered a red lens inside and he reinstalled it. So, I am wondering if it should be blue or red? Since I have the gages out, now would be the time to make it right if I can find out what is right. Any help would be appreciated. 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Foreign Speedo put a red lens into my speedo but after reviewing the feed back here and other sites I decided to put the blue lens into the High Beam on the speedo and the red lens in the Ignition warning light on the tach.. After 15 years of driving my car without any colored lens I am happy to see color now. Thanks to everyone for the advise and information. Ron Fine From: Bruce Steele Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 9:50 PM To: 'Ron Fine' ; 'Healey Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Healeys] High beam warning light color Hi, Ron. According to Anderson and Moment, pg. 104, ?On the right was the tachometer with a number on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the red (emphasis mine) high-beam warning light.? Based on this, I used a red lens (a piece of stage light gel) when I had mine apart. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:27 PM To: Healey Mailing List Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color I need some help with the proper color for the high beam warning light in my ?61 BN7. The 2004 Originality Guide (page 9) says that cars destined for ?continental export? had blue warning lights for the high beam and red for the ignition warning light. My car was shipped directly to California for sale by a dealer here. Is that considered ?continental export?? I just had my speedo repaired by Foreign Speedo. The little colored lens for the high beam warning light was missing since I bought the car. Preston told me they discovered a red lens inside and he reinstalled it. So, I am wondering if it should be blue or red? Since I have the gages out, now would be the time to make it right if I can find out what is right. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ron Fine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Fri Aug 14 23:17:49 2020 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Bruce Steele) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 22:17:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color In-Reply-To: <5727016164914FE88A028D33BD9CFFD6@Inspiron660> References: <9EBD689B3C464E58A07AF52BCEAB4925@Inspiron660> <0be201d671f6$72444aa0$56ccdfe0$@roadrunner.com> <5727016164914FE88A028D33BD9CFFD6@Inspiron660> Message-ID: <0f1901d672c3$6bb82df0$432889d0$@roadrunner.com> Oh, wow?you?re right, Ron. The tach has the generator light and the speedo has the high beam. Dang?now I might have to take my speedo out and change the gel to blue for the times I never use my high beams! Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Ron Fine [mailto:ronfineesq at earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 7:42 PM To: Bruce Steele ; 'Healey Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] High beam warning light color Hi Bruce, Your quote from Anderson and Moment is correct but their description is contradicted by the faces of my speedo and tach. In my BN7 the tach has printed on the face above the red colored lens ?Ignition? and the speedo has printed above the blue light ? High Beam?. Foreign Speedo put a red lens into my speedo but after reviewing the feed back here and other sites I decided to put the blue lens into the High Beam on the speedo and the red lens in the Ignition warning light on the tach.. After 15 years of driving my car without any colored lens I am happy to see color now. Thanks to everyone for the advise and information. Ron Fine From: Bruce Steele Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 9:50 PM To: 'Ron Fine' ; 'Healey Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Healeys] High beam warning light color Hi, Ron. According to Anderson and Moment, pg. 104, ?On the right was the tachometer with a number on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the red (emphasis mine) high-beam warning light.? Based on this, I used a red lens (a piece of stage light gel) when I had mine apart. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:27 PM To: Healey Mailing List > Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color I need some help with the proper color for the high beam warning light in my ?61 BN7. The 2004 Originality Guide (page 9) says that cars destined for ?continental export? had blue warning lights for the high beam and red for the ignition warning light. My car was shipped directly to California for sale by a dealer here. Is that considered ?continental export?? I just had my speedo repaired by Foreign Speedo. The little colored lens for the high beam warning light was missing since I bought the car. Preston told me they discovered a red lens inside and he reinstalled it. So, I am wondering if it should be blue or red? Since I have the gages out, now would be the time to make it right if I can find out what is right. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ron Fine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cynicbass at gmail.com Sat Aug 15 14:58:19 2020 From: cynicbass at gmail.com (Richard Korn) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 20:58:19 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color In-Reply-To: <5727016164914FE88A028D33BD9CFFD6@Inspiron660> References: <9EBD689B3C464E58A07AF52BCEAB4925@Inspiron660> <0be201d671f6$72444aa0$56ccdfe0$@roadrunner.com> <5727016164914FE88A028D33BD9CFFD6@Inspiron660> Message-ID: Hi All, It seems to me that the Anderson -Moment book is in error. According to the Concours guidelines and all other sources and pictures I looked at today, the Tach has the Ignition light and the Speedo has the High Beam light for all Big Healeys from the 100 through the BJ7. Instruments (Gauges) Gauges Gauges on Big Healeys through the BJ7 models (with the exception of the 100S which is not covered in these standards) were supplied as original with, from left to right, "Safety gauge" that showed oil pressure and water temperature Speedometer that incorporated a mileage meter (with a number on the face indicating ratios), trip meter, and a high beam warning light, ? Tachometer that incorporated a "ignition" (discharging) warning light (with various numbers on the face denoting ratios) Fuel gauge European market gauges were metric (speedometer (KPH) and safety (combo) gauge (centigrade)) I would like to see a photo of a gauge the other way around. Richard > On Aug 15, 2020, at 02:41, Ron Fine wrote: > > Hi Bruce, > > Your quote from Anderson and Moment is correct but their description is contradicted by the faces of my speedo and tach. In my BN7 the tach has printed on the face above the red colored lens ?Ignition? and the speedo has printed above the blue light ? High Beam?. Foreign Speedo put a red lens into my speedo but after reviewing the feed back here and other sites I decided to put the blue lens into the High Beam on the speedo and the red lens in the Ignition warning light on the tach.. > > After 15 years of driving my car without any colored lens I am happy to see color now. > > Thanks to everyone for the advise and information. > > Ron Fine > > From: Bruce Steele <> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 9:50 PM > To: 'Ron Fine' <> ; 'Healey Mailing List' <> > Subject: RE: [Healeys] High beam warning light color > > Hi, Ron. According to Anderson and Moment, pg. 104, ?On the right was the tachometer with a number on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the red (emphasis mine) high-beam warning light.? Based on this, I used a red lens (a piece of stage light gel) when I had mine apart. > > Bruce Steele > Brea, CA > 1960 BN7 > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net ] On Behalf Of Ron Fine > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:27 PM > To: Healey Mailing List > > Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color > > I need some help with the proper color for the high beam warning light in my ?61 BN7. > > The 2004 Originality Guide (page 9) says that cars destined for ?continental export? had blue warning lights for the high beam and red for the ignition warning light. My car was shipped directly to California for sale by a dealer here. Is that considered ?continental export?? > > I just had my speedo repaired by Foreign Speedo. The little colored lens for the high beam warning light was missing since I bought the car. Preston told me they discovered a red lens inside and he reinstalled it. > > So, I am wondering if it should be blue or red? Since I have the gages out, now would be the time to make it right if I can find out what is right. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Ron Fine > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cynicbass at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sat Aug 15 16:00:11 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 18:00:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color In-Reply-To: References: <9EBD689B3C464E58A07AF52BCEAB4925@Inspiron660> <0be201d671f6$72444aa0$56ccdfe0$@roadrunner.com> <5727016164914FE88A028D33BD9CFFD6@Inspiron660> Message-ID: In case you want a slightly different take on the speedo /high beam, tach/ignition discussion as Richard had asked, I pulled out some of the Sprite gauges today to see if Smiths/Austin Healey had a set pattern of where the warning lights were placed. Found early 6000 RPM Sprite tachometers, some with ignition and some with high beam. Same with several of the 100MPH Speedos. As we used to say when we were kids, Go Figure. Still don?t know what that really means, but since I?m puzzled, I?ll go with that. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Richard Korn via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 4:59 PM To: Ron Fine Cc: Healey Mailing List Subject: Re: [Healeys] High beam warning light color Hi All, It seems to me that the Anderson -Moment book is in error. According to the Concours guidelines and all other sources and pictures I looked at today, the Tach has the Ignition light and the Speedo has the High Beam light for all Big Healeys from the 100 through the BJ7.? Instruments (Gauges) Gauges Gauges on Big Healeys through the BJ7 models (with the exception of the 100S which is not covered in these standards) were supplied as original with, from left to right, ? "Safety gauge" that showed oil pressure and water temperature ? Speedometer that incorporated a mileage meter (with a number on the face indicating ratios), trip meter, and a high beam warning light, Tachometer that incorporated a "ignition" (discharging) warning light (with various numbers on the face denoting ratios) ? Fuel gauge ? European market gauges were metric (speedometer (KPH) and safety (combo) gauge (centigrade)) I would like to see a photo of a gauge the other way around. Richard On Aug 15, 2020, at 02:41, Ron Fine wrote: Hi Bruce, ? Your quote from Anderson and Moment is correct but their description is contradicted by the faces of my speedo and tach.? In my BN7 the tach has printed on the face above the red colored lens ?Ignition?? and the speedo has printed above the blue light ? High Beam?.?? Foreign Speedo put a red lens into my speedo but after reviewing the feed back here and other sites I decided to put the blue lens into the High Beam on the speedo and the red lens in the Ignition warning light on the tach..? ? After 15 years of driving my car without any colored lens I am happy to see color now. ? Thanks to everyone for the advise and information. ? Ron Fine?? ? From:?Bruce Steele Sent:?Thursday, August 13, 2020 9:50 PM To:?'Ron Fine'?;?'Healey Mailing List' Subject:?RE: [Healeys] High beam warning light color ? Hi, Ron.? According to Anderson and Moment, pg. 104, ?On the right was the tachometer with a number on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the?red?(emphasis mine) high-beam warning light.?? Based on this, I used a red lens (a piece of stage light gel) when I had mine apart. ? Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 ? From:?Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net]?On Behalf Of?Ron Fine Sent:?Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:27 PM To:?Healey Mailing List Subject:?[Healeys] High beam warning light color ? I need some help with the proper color for the high beam warning light in my ?61 BN7. ? The 2004 Originality Guide (page 9) says that cars destined for ?continental export? had blue warning lights for the high beam and red for the ignition warning light.? My car was shipped directly to California for sale by a dealer here.? Is that considered ?continental export?? ? I just had my speedo repaired by Foreign Speedo.? The little colored lens for the high beam warning light was missing since I bought the car.? Preston told me they discovered a red lens inside and he reinstalled it.?? ? So, I am wondering if it should be blue or red?? Since I have the gages out,? now would be the time to make it right if I can find out what is right. ? Any help would be appreciated. ? Thanks ? Ron Fine http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cynicbass at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Sun Aug 16 08:59:48 2020 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Bruce Steele) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 07:59:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color In-Reply-To: References: <9EBD689B3C464E58A07AF52BCEAB4925@Inspiron660> <0be201d671f6$72444aa0$56ccdfe0$@roadrunner.com> <5727016164914FE88A028D33BD9CFFD6@Inspiron660> Message-ID: <055a01d673dd$e366cc60$aa346520$@roadrunner.com> Indeed. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Richard Korn [mailto:cynicbass at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 1:58 PM To: Ron Fine Cc: Bruce Steele ; Healey Mailing List Subject: Re: [Healeys] High beam warning light color Hi All, It seems to me that the Anderson -Moment book is in error. According to the Concours guidelines and all other sources and pictures I looked at today, the Tach has the Ignition light and the Speedo has the High Beam light for all Big Healeys from the 100 through the BJ7. Instruments (Gauges) Gauges Gauges on Big Healeys through the BJ7 models (with the exception of the 100S which is not covered in these standards) were supplied as original with, from left to right, * "Safety gauge" that showed oil pressure and water temperature * Speedometer that incorporated a mileage meter (with a number on the face indicating ratios), trip meter, and a high beam warning light, * Tachometer that incorporated a "ignition" (discharging) warning light (with various numbers on the face denoting ratios) * Fuel gauge * European market gauges were metric (speedometer (KPH) and safety (combo) gauge (centigrade)) I would like to see a photo of a gauge the other way around. Richard On Aug 15, 2020, at 02:41, Ron Fine > wrote: Hi Bruce, Your quote from Anderson and Moment is correct but their description is contradicted by the faces of my speedo and tach. In my BN7 the tach has printed on the face above the red colored lens ?Ignition? and the speedo has printed above the blue light ? High Beam?. Foreign Speedo put a red lens into my speedo but after reviewing the feed back here and other sites I decided to put the blue lens into the High Beam on the speedo and the red lens in the Ignition warning light on the tach.. After 15 years of driving my car without any colored lens I am happy to see color now. Thanks to everyone for the advise and information. Ron Fine From: Bruce Steele Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 9:50 PM To: 'Ron Fine' ; 'Healey Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Healeys] High beam warning light color Hi, Ron. According to Anderson and Moment, pg. 104, ?On the right was the tachometer with a number on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the red (emphasis mine) high-beam warning light.? Based on this, I used a red lens (a piece of stage light gel) when I had mine apart. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Healeys [ mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:27 PM To: Healey Mailing List < healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color I need some help with the proper color for the high beam warning light in my ?61 BN7. The 2004 Originality Guide (page 9) says that cars destined for ?continental export? had blue warning lights for the high beam and red for the ignition warning light. My car was shipped directly to California for sale by a dealer here. Is that considered ?continental export?? I just had my speedo repaired by Foreign Speedo. The little colored lens for the high beam warning light was missing since I bought the car. Preston told me they discovered a red lens inside and he reinstalled it. So, I am wondering if it should be blue or red? Since I have the gages out, now would be the time to make it right if I can find out what is right. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ron Fine _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cynicbass at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Aug 16 10:01:01 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 09:01:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color In-Reply-To: <055a01d673dd$e366cc60$aa346520$@roadrunner.com> References: <9EBD689B3C464E58A07AF52BCEAB4925@Inspiron660> <0be201d671f6$72444aa0$56ccdfe0$@roadrunner.com> <5727016164914FE88A028D33BD9CFFD6@Inspiron660> <055a01d673dd$e366cc60$aa346520$@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: Same for the BJ8 (mine, at least). There might be enough slack in the wiring harness to cross up the two leads. Bob On 8/16/2020 7:59 AM, Bruce Steele via Healeys wrote: > > Indeed. > > Bruce Steele > > Brea, CA > > 1960 BN7 > > *From:*Richard Korn [mailto:cynicbass at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, August 15, 2020 1:58 PM > *To:* Ron Fine > *Cc:* Bruce Steele ; Healey Mailing List > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] High beam warning light color > > Hi All, > > It seems to me that the Anderson -Moment book is in error. According > to the Concours guidelines and all other sources and pictures I looked > at today, the Tach has the Ignition light and the Speedo has the High > Beam light for all Big Healeys from the 100 through the BJ7. > > *Instruments (Gauges) **Gauges * > > Gauges on Big Healeys through the BJ7 models (with the exception of > the 100S which is not covered in these standards) were supplied as > original with, from left to right, > > * "Safety gauge" that showed oil pressure and water temperature > * Speedometer that incorporated a mileage meter (with a number on > the face > > indicating ratios), trip meter, and a high beam warning light, > > ? Tachometer that incorporated a "ignition" (discharging) warning > light (with various numbers on the face denoting ratios) > > * Fuel gauge > * European market gauges were metric (speedometer (KPH) and > > safety (combo) gauge (centigrade)) > > I would like to see a photo of a gauge the other way around. > > Richard > > On Aug 15, 2020, at 02:41, Ron Fine > wrote: > > Hi Bruce, > > Your quote from Anderson and Moment is correct but their > description is contradicted by the faces of my speedo and tach.? > In my BN7 the tach has printed on the face above the red colored > lens ?Ignition?? and the speedo has printed above the blue light ? > High Beam?.?? Foreign Speedo put a red lens into my speedo but > after reviewing the feed back here and other sites I decided to > put the blue lens into the High Beam on the speedo and the red > lens in the Ignition warning light on the tach.. > > After 15 years of driving my car without any colored lens I am > happy to see color now. > > Thanks to everyone for the advise and information. > > Ron Fine > > *From:*Bruce Steele > > *Sent:*Thursday, August 13, 2020 9:50 PM > > *To:*'Ron Fine';'Healey Mailing List' > > *Subject:*RE: [Healeys] High beam warning light color > > Hi, Ron.? According to Anderson and Moment, pg. 104, ?On the right > was the tachometer with a number on the face indicating the ratio, > and incorporating the/red/(emphasis mine) high-beam warning > light.?? Based on this, I used a red lens (a piece of stage light > gel) when I had mine apart. > > Bruce Steele > > Brea, CA > > 1960 BN7 > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net]*On Behalf > Of*Ron Fine > *Sent:*Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:27 PM > *To:*Healey Mailing List > > *Subject:*[Healeys] High beam warning light color > > I need some help with the proper color for the high beam warning > light in my ?61 BN7. > > The 2004 Originality Guide (page 9) says that cars destined for > ?continental export? had blue warning lights for the high beam and > red for the ignition warning light.? My car was shipped directly > to California for sale by a dealer here.? Is that considered > ?continental export?? > > I just had my speedo repaired by Foreign Speedo.? The little > colored lens for the high beam warning light was missing since I > bought the car. Preston told me they discovered a red lens inside > and he reinstalled it. > > So, I am wondering if it should be blue or red?? Since I have the > gages out,? now would be the time to make it right if I can find > out what is right. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Ron Fine > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Sun Aug 16 10:23:31 2020 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 09:23:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color In-Reply-To: References: <9EBD689B3C464E58A07AF52BCEAB4925@Inspiron660> <0be201d671f6$72444aa0$56ccdfe0$@roadrunner.com> <5727016164914FE88A028D33BD9CFFD6@Inspiron660> <055a01d673dd$e366cc60$aa346520$@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: Hello, I have recently put a completely new wiring harness into my Mk1 BT7. The harness is fully installed but the exterior body panels are not and you have a good view of the wiring behind the instruments. Yes it is possible to cross the wires and put the wrong bulb in the wrong instrument but this would be against how the harness is laid out. The attached wiring diagram shows which wires go to which instrument. This wiring diagram is not a reproduction but comes from a period work shop manual for BN4 through BT7. The manual is Part N. AKD1179A Issue 2 if anyone need to know. If anyone would like pictures of the back the instrument cluster let me know. Lets not forget Lucas, the Prince of Darkness is never far away! Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 9:01 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] High beam warning light color Same for the BJ8 (mine, at least). There might be enough slack in the wiring harness to cross up the two leads. Bob On 8/16/2020 7:59 AM, Bruce Steele via Healeys wrote: Indeed. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Richard Korn [mailto:cynicbass at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 1:58 PM To: Ron Fine Cc: Bruce Steele ; Healey Mailing List Subject: Re: [Healeys] High beam warning light color Hi All, It seems to me that the Anderson -Moment book is in error. According to the Concours guidelines and all other sources and pictures I looked at today, the Tach has the Ignition light and the Speedo has the High Beam light for all Big Healeys from the 100 through the BJ7. Instruments (Gauges) Gauges Gauges on Big Healeys through the BJ7 models (with the exception of the 100S which is not covered in these standards) were supplied as original with, from left to right, * "Safety gauge" that showed oil pressure and water temperature * Speedometer that incorporated a mileage meter (with a number on the face indicating ratios), trip meter, and a high beam warning light, ? Tachometer that incorporated a "ignition" (discharging) warning light (with various numbers on the face denoting ratios) * Fuel gauge * European market gauges were metric (speedometer (KPH) and safety (combo) gauge (centigrade)) I would like to see a photo of a gauge the other way around. Richard On Aug 15, 2020, at 02:41, Ron Fine wrote: Hi Bruce, Your quote from Anderson and Moment is correct but their description is contradicted by the faces of my speedo and tach. In my BN7 the tach has printed on the face above the red colored lens ?Ignition? and the speedo has printed above the blue light ? High Beam?. Foreign Speedo put a red lens into my speedo but after reviewing the feed back here and other sites I decided to put the blue lens into the High Beam on the speedo and the red lens in the Ignition warning light on the tach.. After 15 years of driving my car without any colored lens I am happy to see color now. Thanks to everyone for the advise and information. Ron Fine From: Bruce Steele Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 9:50 PM To: 'Ron Fine' ; 'Healey Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Healeys] High beam warning light color Hi, Ron. According to Anderson and Moment, pg. 104, ?On the right was the tachometer with a number on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the red (emphasis mine) high-beam warning light.? Based on this, I used a red lens (a piece of stage light gel) when I had mine apart. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Healeys [ mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:27 PM To: Healey Mailing List < healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color I need some help with the proper color for the high beam warning light in my ?61 BN7. The 2004 Originality Guide (page 9) says that cars destined for ?continental export? had blue warning lights for the high beam and red for the ignition warning light. My car was shipped directly to California for sale by a dealer here. Is that considered ?continental export?? I just had my speedo repaired by Foreign Speedo. The little colored lens for the high beam warning light was missing since I bought the car. Preston told me they discovered a red lens inside and he reinstalled it. So, I am wondering if it should be blue or red? Since I have the gages out, now would be the time to make it right if I can find out what is right. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ron Fine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Wiring Diagram BT7.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 660006 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Aug 16 10:45:48 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 09:45:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] High beam warning light color In-Reply-To: References: <9EBD689B3C464E58A07AF52BCEAB4925@Inspiron660> <0be201d671f6$72444aa0$56ccdfe0$@roadrunner.com> <5727016164914FE88A028D33BD9CFFD6@Inspiron660> <055a01d673dd$e366cc60$aa346520$@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <40a81a23-05d6-c132-f7f5-27762584ac46@comcast.net> I used the same diagram from the 100 shop manual to wire my BN2 on a bare chassis. My install would have been 100% correct if the harness had not had a couple wires mis-coded. They were turn signal wires, and we even went through the brake/signal relay box looking for the problem (needless to say, I was rather pissed-off about it). I'll never sell the car--my late father and I restored it together--but whoever ends up with it might get misled by the wires' coloring; come to think of it I should probably put a note or something on the wires. On 8/16/2020 9:23 AM, Harold Manifold wrote: > Hello, > I have recently put a completely new wiring harness into my Mk1 BT7. > The harness is fully installed but the exterior body panels are not > and you have a good view of the wiring behind the instruments. Yes it > is possible to cross the wires and put the wrong bulb in the wrong > instrument but this would be against how the harness is laid out. The > attached wiring diagram shows which wires go to which instrument. This > wiring diagram is not a reproduction but comes from a period work shop > manual for BN4 through BT7. The manual is Part N. AKD1179A Issue 2 if > anyone need to know. > If anyone would like pictures of the back the instrument cluster let > me know. > Lets not forget Lucas, the Prince of Darkness is never far away! > Harold > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of > *Bob Spidell > *Sent:* Sunday, August 16, 2020 9:01 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] High beam warning light color > > Same for the BJ8 (mine, at least). > > There might be enough slack in the wiring harness to cross up the two > leads. > > Bob > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From healey53 at gmail.com Sun Aug 16 22:15:23 2020 From: healey53 at gmail.com (Joseph Costa) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 00:15:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN-1 trans In-Reply-To: <1193990608.2773111.1597600261372@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1193990608.2773111.1597600261372.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1193990608.2773111.1597600261372@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9BA46C40-2B7F-4CE8-A27F-2BF22793EBCF@gmail.com> There is a 3 speed without overdrive on eBay for $1250 Joe > On Aug 16, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote: > > List, > What's a fair price for a BN-1 three speed trans in good condition? Is an early spiral bevel rear axle wort anything? I'm trying to make some room to move and I have too much stuff. > Thanks > Ray > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey53 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fredwescoe at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 15:23:24 2020 From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:23:24 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ram pipes Message-ID: Listers, I have a 66 BJ8 with HD8 carbs. Is there a source for ram pipes for these carbs? Fred 66BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Aug 17 15:43:16 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 14:43:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Ram pipes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18a43bdb-d531-160e-7aba-65e4cd0217b9@comcast.net> Good place to start: https://www.aptfast.com/ On 8/17/2020 2:23 PM, Fred Wescoe via Healeys wrote: > Listers, > > I have a 66 BJ8 with HD8 carbs.? Is there a source for ram pipes for > these carbs? > > Fred > > 66BJ8 > From neilandcustom at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 20:40:35 2020 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:40:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Ram pipes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It looks like AH Spares has them in their Performance Parts area, Fuel - Engine Bay, part #19. Neil Anderson On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 4:24 PM Fred Wescoe via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Listers, > > I have a 66 BJ8 with HD8 carbs. Is there a source for ram pipes for these > carbs? > > Fred > > 66BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linwoodrose at mac.com Tue Aug 18 08:16:15 2020 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (Linwood Rose) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 10:16:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Jaguar Distributor cap for Healey DM6A distributor Message-ID: <0CEE5E0E-F209-4F7C-A397-B6D7338390A8@mac.com> I have a DM6A Lucas distributor and would like to replace the side loading original cap with a top loading cap. Someone (possibly here?) mentioned that a Jaguar XJ6 distributor cap would work. However, I cannot find the post and I am not sure which cap to order. If XJ6, which year, series and etc. Can anyone help? Thank you! Lin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Tue Aug 18 08:40:37 2020 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 10:40:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Jaguar Distributor cap for Healey DM6A distributor In-Reply-To: <0CEE5E0E-F209-4F7C-A397-B6D7338390A8@mac.com> References: <0CEE5E0E-F209-4F7C-A397-B6D7338390A8@mac.com> Message-ID: <85e4665c-60fd-aaf7-9b52-f5b312277b85@earthlink.net> Lin, I think the Jaguar cap was for the later BJ8 distributors.? You might check with the Distributor Doctor - http://www.distributordoctor.com/distributor_caps.htm Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 8/18/20 10:16 AM, Linwood Rose via Healeys wrote: > I have a DM6A Lucas distributor and would like to replace the side > loading original cap with a top loading cap. Someone (possibly here?) > mentioned that a Jaguar XJ6 distributor cap would work. However, I > cannot find the post and I am not sure which cap to order. If XJ6, > which year, series and etc. > > Can anyone help? Thank you! > > Lin > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Tue Aug 18 09:47:38 2020 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:47:38 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Jaguar Distributor cap for Healey DM6A distributor In-Reply-To: <0CEE5E0E-F209-4F7C-A397-B6D7338390A8@mac.com> References: <0CEE5E0E-F209-4F7C-A397-B6D7338390A8@mac.com> Message-ID: <001301d67576$e7878f60$b696ae20$@alexarevel.plus.com> Hi, See (1) & (2), below. From: Healeys On Behalf Of Linwood Rose via Healeys Sent: 18 August 2020 15:16 To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] Jaguar Distributor cap for Healey DM6A distributor I have a DM6A Lucas distributor and would like to replace the side loading original cap with a top loading cap. Someone (possibly here?) mentioned that a Jaguar XJ6 distributor cap would work. However, I cannot find the post and I am not sure which cap to order. If XJ6, which year, series and etc. Can anyone help? Thank you! Lin I dug these out of my filing system(?):- 1. """From: owner-healeys at autox.team.net on behalf of Doug Newton [dnewton at nappco.com] Sent: 07 July 2005 14:00 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Healey 6 Cylinder Distributor Caps and Plug Wires If there is anyone out there who is tired of messing around with a stock Healey 6 Cylinder Distributor Cap and "cut to fit" Spark Plug Wires, you can easily change to a regular style distributor cap that uses "standard plug wires" (no cutting or screwing a cone point screw to break the insulation) by going to a parts house and ask for a distributor cap that fits a 1969 to 1975 Jaguar XJ6 2.8 or 4.2 size motor. It will fit perfectly on the Healey Distributor Housing and you can use all the other stock parts (rotors, points, and condensers). I made the conversion to my '65 BJ8 and it runs better now than it ever has. The cap should be less than $30.00. If memory serves me correct, the Lucas Part Number for the Distributor Cap I purchased is DDB 117, but I feel confident that there are several other brands out there to choose from. The only other thing you will need to buy is a regular set of standard 6 cylinder plug wires with standard fittings on the distributor cap end. I hope this info works as well for you as it did for me.. Doug""" And:- (2) """From: Agoura Jim [bjate at pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, December 14, 1998 8:12 PM To: Editorgary at aol.com Cc: STOCKLAND at aol.com; owner-healeys at autox.team.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Distributor Cap Gary et al. The 'real' distributor cap that accepts 'modern' ignition wires is the Triumph TR6 cap. Its interchangable for the 6 cyliner Healeys and you don't have to mess with screws going through the wire and separating the carbon (or whatever it is) conductor. Jim Agoura, CA""" Seems that you may have a choice! Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyrik at gmail.com Tue Aug 18 11:40:48 2020 From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 13:40:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ram pipes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.sportsandclassics.com/parts/british-other/daimler/velocity-stacks-2-long-aston-martin-austin-healey-jaguar/ Healthy Healeying, Rick Neville Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 5:24 PM Fred Wescoe via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Listers, > > I have a 66 BJ8 with HD8 carbs. Is there a source for ram pipes for these > carbs? > > Fred > > 66BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linwoodrose at mac.com Tue Aug 18 14:10:44 2020 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (Linwood Rose) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:10:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] jaguar distributor cap for DM6A Message-ID: <5B166CBB-0BFF-4C15-8B57-CBF2DB2007E6@mac.com> Thanks for the responses. After some checking around, it appears that the top loading cap can be found and used for the the later D25 distributor that was introduced with the MKII, but those of us with MKIs and DM6A distributors seem to be out of luck. Cheers, Lin Sent from my iPad From fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 18 17:23:23 2020 From: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com (fsufan1952 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 19:23:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ram pipes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <622DFC94-714B-4230-A582-96FF1643E789@yahoo.com> Fred I installed on my 67 BJ8 a new intake manifold , from AH Spares , which pushed out my carbs towards the fender more . I only had room for ram pipes. Which I got from sports and classics . But I also got from them a set of Webber single carb ?Sox?s to go over the ram pipes to keep out stuff . Wouldn?t run without some protection. Don Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2020, at 1:41 PM, HealeyRick via Healeys wrote: > > ? > https://www.sportsandclassics.com/parts/british-other/daimler/velocity-stacks-2-long-aston-martin-austin-healey-jaguar/ > > Healthy Healeying, > Rick Neville > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 5:24 PM Fred Wescoe via Healeys wrote: >> Listers, >> >> I have a 66 BJ8 with HD8 carbs. Is there a source for ram pipes for these carbs? >> >> Fred >> >> 66BJ8 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fsufan1952 at yahoo.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roggrace at telus.net Thu Aug 20 11:27:01 2020 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:27:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise Message-ID: <1528785728.7486397.1597944421697.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise.Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed. At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.So changed out the R wheel bearing.No improvement Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.So changed out both universals.Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.No improvement. Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor.Noise does appear to come from transmission.To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD.OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises.The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ? Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us.Tkx rg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 18:27, Roger Grace via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious. > Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was > something simple ! > > Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind > and engine > noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust > noise. > Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at > prop shaft speed. > > At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side. > So changed out the R wheel bearing. > No improvement > > Then while looking below noted that universals had some play. > So changed out both universals. > Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels. > No improvement. > > Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there > was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. > > So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but > still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. > > Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and > cut engine. Tunnel cover off. > > Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a > rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. > > Noise does appear to come from transmission. > > To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't > appear to be coming from diff area. > Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia > of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. > > About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from > Moss ... ?) in the OD. > OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual > noises. > > The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent > with a bearing failure ? > > Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a > bad gear tooth etc. > OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. > Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. > So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ? > Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft > external to gearbox ? > or half shaft ? > > Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. > Tkx > rg > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com > > -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 18:27, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise.Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed. At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.So changed out the R wheel bearing.No improvement Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.So changed out both universals.Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.No improvement. Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. Noise does appear to come from transmission. To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD.OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises. The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ? Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us.Tkxrg _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at gmail.com Thu Aug 20 12:47:51 2020 From: healeydoc at gmail.com (David Nock) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:47:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise In-Reply-To: <1528785728.7486397.1597944421697.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> References: <1528785728.7486397.1597944421697.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. Probably will go away when sitting on the ground. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Roger Grace via Healeys Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AM To: 'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious. Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise. Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed. At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side. So changed out the R wheel bearing. No improvement Then while looking below noted that universals had some play. So changed out both universals. Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels. No improvement. Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. Noise does appear to come from transmission. To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD. OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises. The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ? Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ? 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URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu Aug 20 13:05:23 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 15:05:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise In-Reply-To: <1528785728.7486397.1597944421697.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> References: <1528785728.7486397.1597944421697.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: Hi Roger, you say "Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing." I think that is unlikely and would look into that more closely. If you can get access to a "Chassis Ear" that would probably help a lot. M On Thu., Aug. 20, 2020, 1:28 p.m. Roger Grace via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious. > Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was > something simple ! > > Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind > and engine > noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust > noise. > Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at > prop shaft speed. > > At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side. > So changed out the R wheel bearing. > No improvement > > Then while looking below noted that universals had some play. > So changed out both universals. > Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels. > No improvement. > > Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there > was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. > > So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but > still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. > > Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and > cut engine. Tunnel cover off. > > Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a > rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. > > Noise does appear to come from transmission. > > To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't > appear to be coming from diff area. > Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia > of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. > > About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from > Moss ... ?) in the OD. > OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual > noises. > > The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent > with a bearing failure ? > > Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a > bad gear tooth etc. > OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. > Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. > So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ? > Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft > external to gearbox ? > or half shaft ? > > Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. > Tkx > rg > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > Is -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave > On Aug 20, 2020, at 2:11 PM, John Harper via Healeys wrote: > > Roger > > As you have said that you have changed both universals, is there chance that you have reassembled the shaft out of phase? This is easily fitted wrongly. Both universals have to be exactly in line and you should be able to see small pointers engraved on each side of the sliding sections that have to line up so that splines are correctly aligned. > > On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 18:27, Roger Grace via Healeys > wrote: > AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious. > Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! > > Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine > noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise. > Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at > prop shaft speed. > > At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side. > So changed out the R wheel bearing. > No improvement > > Then while looking below noted that universals had some play. > So changed out both universals. > Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels. > No improvement. > > Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. > > So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. > > Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. > > Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. > > Noise does appear to come from transmission. > > To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. > Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. > > About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from > Moss ... ?) in the OD. > OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual > noises. > > The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent > with a bearing failure ? > > Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. > OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. > Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. > So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ? > Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? > or half shaft ? > > Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. > Tkx > rg > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com > > > > -- > Best wishes > > John Harper > > AHC UK 100 Register Secretary > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dmasucci at charter.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nstbennett at gmail.com Thu Aug 20 14:11:40 2020 From: nstbennett at gmail.com (N.S. Bennett) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:11:40 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Noise In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are all your belts in good shape and of the proper tension? Sounds like a weird question but I asked based on experience with my former Sprite with an extremely similar noise. Long story short, the fan belt wasn't the proper tension. Good luck! Nate B. '66 BJ8 On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 12:00 PM wrote: > Send Healeys mailing list submissions to > healeys at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > healeys-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Mystery noise (Roger Grace) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Roger Grace > To: "'healeylist'" > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:27:01 -0600 (MDT) > Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise > AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious. > Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was > something simple ! > > Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind > and engine > noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust > noise. > Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at > prop shaft speed. > > At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side. > So changed out the R wheel bearing. > No improvement > > Then while looking below noted that universals had some play. > So changed out both universals. > Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels. > No improvement. > > Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there > was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. > > So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but > still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. > > Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and > cut engine. Tunnel cover off. > > Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a > rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. > > Noise does appear to come from transmission. > > To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't > appear to be coming from diff area. > Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia > of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. > > About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from > Moss ... ?) in the OD. > OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual > noises. > > The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent > with a bearing failure ? > > Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a > bad gear tooth etc. > OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. > Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. > So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ? > Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft > external to gearbox ? > or half shaft ? > > Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. > Tkx > rg > _______________________________________________ > Healeys mailing list > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > archives: http://autox.team.net/archive > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From roggrace at telus.net Thu Aug 20 15:01:25 2020 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 15:01:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise In-Reply-To: References: <1528785728.7486397.1597944421697.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <177754257.7612631.1597957285661.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> M, Thank you and always respect your experienced input.Did you perhaps listen to the file ?OK will try this again; but when cut engine without prop shaft it stops abruptly.Will try to listen with engine running.Also I have have the impression that it is when torque direction is from wheels spinning and trying to overrun the transmission - like coasting.Will report back.Tkxrg ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Salter To: Roger Grace Cc: healeylist Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 13:05:23 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise Hi Roger, you say "Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing."I think that is unlikely and would look into that more closely.If you can get access to a "Chassis Ear" that would probably help a lot. M On Thu., Aug. 20, 2020, 1:28 p.m. Roger Grace via Healeys, wrote: AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise.Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed. At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.So changed out the R wheel bearing.No improvement Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.So changed out both universals.Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.No improvement. Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. Noise does appear to come from transmission. To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD.OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises. The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ? Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us.Tkxrg _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com Is -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frogeye at porterscustom.com Thu Aug 20 15:33:29 2020 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 15:33:29 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise In-Reply-To: <177754257.7612631.1597957285661.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> References: <1528785728.7486397.1597944421697.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> <177754257.7612631.1597957285661.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <8f1e3138-05ee-19a6-8191-fedf3ee9cc97@porterscustom.com> Pretty sure dave Nock nailed it.. On 8/20/2020 3:01 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: > M, > Thank you and always respect your experienced input. > Did you perhaps listen to the file ? > OK will try this again; but when cut engine without prop shaft it > stops abruptly. > Will try to listen with engine running. > Also I have have the impression that it is when torque direction is > from wheels spinning and trying to overrun the transmission - like > coasting. > Will report back. > Tkx > rg > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Salter > To: Roger Grace > Cc: healeylist > Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 13:05:23 -0600 (MDT) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise > > Hi Roger, you say "Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not > possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing." > I think that is unlikely and would look into that more closely. > If you can get access to a "Chassis Ear" that would probably help a lot. > > M > > > On Thu., Aug. 20, 2020, 1:28 p.m. Roger Grace via Healeys, > > wrote: > > AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious. > Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it > was something simple ! > Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too > much wind and engine > noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and > exhaust noise. > Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at > prop shaft speed. > At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side. > So changed out the R wheel bearing. > No improvement > Then while looking below noted that universals had some play. > So changed out both universals. > Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels. > No improvement. > Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was > that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. > > So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter > but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. > Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to > N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. > > Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by > turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. > > Noise does appear to come from transmission. > > To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise > doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. > Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the > inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. > About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing > (sourced from > Moss ... ?) in the OD. > OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual > noises. > > The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not > consistent > with a bearing failure ? > > Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is > not a bad gear tooth etc. > OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. > Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. > So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ? > Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main > shaft external to gearbox ? > or half shaft ? > > Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. > Tkx > rg > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > > Archive: > http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > Is > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com > -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roggrace at telus.net Thu Aug 20 17:23:55 2020 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:23:55 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise In-Reply-To: References: <1528785728.7486397.1597944421697.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <1131811624.7689959.1597965835026.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> David, Thank you. Yes sounds quite feasible; will check and report backrg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Nock To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;}Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. Probably will go away when sitting on the ground. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From:Roger Grace via HealeysSent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AMTo:'healeylist'Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise.Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed. At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.So changed out the R wheel bearing.No improvement Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.So changed out both universals.Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.No improvement. Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. Noise does appear to come from transmission. To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD.OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises. The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ? Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. Tkxrg _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Thu Aug 20 20:17:46 2020 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 19:17:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Wadding or Batting for Door Panels Message-ID: <434863EEC4804DF99E1E05475F138970@AllInOne> Hello, Any suggestions on a good material to use as wadding or batting for the door panels? Looking at what I removed from my 60 year old door panels it should be approximately 1/16" - 1/8" thick and not retain moisture. 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I found a picture on the internet but there was no information on what the material was. Thanks in advance ... Harold _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 16:48:42 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 15:48:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] sprite tire size Message-ID: Can I get some info? Will 155/65R13 fit on stock 65 Sprite rims and my car? Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Fri Aug 21 18:29:59 2020 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 17:29:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] sprite tire size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ira, One of the most important parameters when fitting tires others than clearance to body panels and steering components is the designed rim width. Check the manufactures website as it is not always the same. A did a quick check and the approved rim width range for a typical 155/65R13 is 4.5"-5.5". Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs via Healeys Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 3:49 PM To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] sprite tire size Can I get some info? Will 155/65R13 fit on stock 65 Sprite rims and my car? Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB MG A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 18:35:40 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 17:35:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] sprite tire size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Ill confirm. On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 5:30 PM Harold Manifold wrote: > Ira, > > One of the most important parameters when fitting tires others than > clearance to body panels and steering components is the designed rim width. > Check the manufactures website as it is not always the same. A did a quick > check and the approved rim width range for a typical 155/65R13 is 4.5"-5.5". > > Harold > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *i > erbs via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2020 3:49 PM > *To:* Ahealey help > *Subject:* [Healeys] sprite tire size > > Can I get some info? Will 155/65R13 fit on stock 65 Sprite rims and my car? > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB [image: MG] > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Aug 21 21:08:26 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 20:08:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Message-ID: Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it survives. https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667 https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130/ From gradea1 at charter.net Fri Aug 21 23:57:24 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 05:57:24 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Message-ID: Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from Sempervirens about those: https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park [1] Sad news, Regards, Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Healeys" Cc: Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it survives. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net Unsubscribe/Manage: Links: ------ [1] https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park [2] http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.team.net/donate.html /> Suggested annual donation __DOLLAR_SYMBOL__12.75 Archive: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Aug 22 09:00:10 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 08:00:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: > Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most > of the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal.? Here is an article > from the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I > remember it well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. > > Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from > Sempervirens about those: > > https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park > > > ?Sad news, Regards, Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: "Healeys" > Cc: > Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM > Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove > > Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it > survives. > > https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667/> > > https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130//> > _______________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is a note from > Sempervirens about those: > > https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park > > > ?Sad news, Regards, Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: "Healeys" > Cc: > Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM > Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove > > Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it > survives. > > https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667/> > > https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130//> > _______________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sat Aug 22 10:20:39 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 16:20:39 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Message-ID: Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article from our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net [1] wrote: Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from Sempervirens about those: [2]https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park [3] Sad news, Regards, Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Healeys" Cc: Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it survives. https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667 [4] /> _______________________________________________ Links: ------ [1] mailto:gradea1 at charter.net [2] https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park [3] https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park [4] https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal.? Here is an article from the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from Sempervirens about those: https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park ?Sad news, Regards, Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Healeys" Cc: Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it survives. https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667 /> https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130/ /> _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronfineesq at earthlink.net Sat Aug 22 11:53:25 2020 From: ronfineesq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 10:53:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators? Message-ID: Can someone explain to me why Moss catalog says ? LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators? I have already replaced my gage lighting with LED, which work great but I don?t know why the turn signal indicator green colored light can?t also be an LED. It is simply an on-off light that should not be affected by the lower current draw. What am I missing here? I am using the original flasher. Thanks, Ron Fine 61Bn7 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 22 12:31:06 2020 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 11:31:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove In-Reply-To: <20200822164722.A6D6FA1916@autox.team.net> References: <20200822164722.A6D6FA1916@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <9994654F-0705-4152-B5D1-38F1F4BF4F4D@sbcglobal.net> I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to put together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the topic. Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the year it was dedicated i can then start searching. David Nock > On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys wrote: > > With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a facelift again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the conflagration but if not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call just as the seed will sprout again. > P > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Henry G Leach via Healeys > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM > To: 'Bob Spidell' > Cc: 'Healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove > > Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article from our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: gradea1 at charter.net > Cc: "Healeys" > Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove > > I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. > > On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: > Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. > > Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from Sempervirens about those: > > https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park > > > Sad news, Regards, Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: "Healeys" > Cc: > Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM > Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove > > Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it > survives. > > https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667 /> > https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130/ /> _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sentenac.rw at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 12:32:28 2020 From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com (sentenac.rw at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 11:32:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9vo2kfhpj0glhauc4tdpk9eo5rlq7r9dlc@4ax.com> I am guessing that it is related to the fact that LED lights don't draw much current. Maybe they don't draw enough current to activate the original flasher. I think it depends on current to heat a bimetallic strip. A solid state flasher should not care. -Roland On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 10:53:25 -0700, you wrote: >Can someone explain to me why Moss catalog says ? LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators? I have already replaced my gage lighting with LED, which work great but I don?t know why the turn signal indicator green colored light can?t also be an LED. It is simply an on-off light that should not be affected by the lower current draw. What am I missing here? I am using the original flasher. Thanks, Ron Fine 61Bn7 > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Aug 22 14:20:33 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators? In-Reply-To: <9vo2kfhpj0glhauc4tdpk9eo5rlq7r9dlc@4ax.com> References: <9vo2kfhpj0glhauc4tdpk9eo5rlq7r9dlc@4ax.com> Message-ID: <617763234.6047515.1598127633216@mail.yahoo.com> You need one of these for LED flashers: Flashers | | | | $17.95 | | | | | | | Flashers Electronic Flashers for use with LED Lamps | | | Mike MacLean On Saturday, August 22, 2020, 11:33:20 AM PDT, sentenac.rw--- via Healeys wrote: I am guessing that it is related to the fact that LED lights don't draw much current.? Maybe they don't draw enough current to activate the original flasher.? I think it depends on current to heat a bimetallic strip.? A solid state flasher should not care. -Roland On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 10:53:25 -0700, you wrote: >Can someone explain to me why Moss catalog says ? LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators?? I have already replaced my gage lighting with LED, which work great but I don?t know why the turn? signal indicator green colored light can?t also be an LED.? It is simply an on-off light that should not be affected by the lower current draw.? What am I missing here?? I am using the original flasher.? Thanks,? Ron Fine 61Bn7 > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 14:40:34 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 16:40:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Based upon what I know about the workings of the original Lucas flasher unit I would think that the turn signal warning lights would probably work with an LED but the bulb failure feature would not as it is dependent upon the ratio of the current draw of the warning light bulb to that of the signal lamps through which it is grounded. M On Sat., Aug. 22, 2020, 1:53 p.m. Ron Fine, wrote: > Can someone explain to me why Moss catalog says ? LEDs should not be used > for turn signal indicators? > > I have already replaced my gage lighting with LED, which work great but I > don?t know why the turn signal indicator green colored light can?t also be > an LED. It is simply an on-off light that should not be affected by the > lower current draw. What am I missing here? I am using the original > flasher. > > Thanks, > > Ron Fine > 61Bn7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 14:43:19 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 13:43:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: use a solid state flasher Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 10:54 AM Ron Fine wrote: > Can someone explain to me why Moss catalog says ? LEDs should not be used > for turn signal indicators? > > I have already replaced my gage lighting with LED, which work great but I > don?t know why the turn signal indicator green colored light can?t also be > an LED. It is simply an on-off light that should not be affected by the > lower current draw. What am I missing here? I am using the original > flasher. > > Thanks, > > Ron Fine > 61Bn7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronfineesq at earthlink.net Sat Aug 22 15:55:00 2020 From: ronfineesq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 14:55:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3C460BDBC56E4AAF8307621005C548B1@Inspiron660> I currently have a mix of LED and incandescent bulbs in my side marker lamps so my traditional flasher unit works fine with the current draw from the halogen bulbs. I prefer the appearance of the original flasher can in the engine bay. I would like to increase the brightness of the bulb behind the green lens in the dash but Moss warns against using an LED there. I am trying to understand why. That bulb is fed from one wire from the flasher that goes no where else other than to ground. I can?t figure out why an LED in that position would not work since the other halogen bulbs provide sufficient current draw for the flasher to work for the side marker or turn signal lights. I can leave the existing halogen bulb there but I like to understand why things work or don?t. Thanks, Ron From: i erbs Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 1:43 PM To: Ron Fine Cc: Healey Mailing List Subject: Re: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators? use a solid state flasher Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words Virus-free. www.avg.com On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 10:54 AM Ron Fine wrote: Can someone explain to me why Moss catalog says ? LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators? I have already replaced my gage lighting with LED, which work great but I don?t know why the turn signal indicator green colored light can?t also be an LED. It is simply an on-off light that should not be affected by the lower current draw. What am I missing here? I am using the original flasher. Thanks, Ron Fine 61Bn7 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyray at yahoo.com Sat Aug 22 18:36:13 2020 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 00:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Doors References: <202048521.2204240.1598142973905.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <202048521.2204240.1598142973905@mail.yahoo.com> Guys ?? I have a couple of early BN-1 doors, with the aluminum hinge that need a new home. They are in good shape but have some pin hole rust along the lower edge. Make me an offer. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_4176.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3398966 bytes Desc: not available URL: From roggrace at telus.net Sat Aug 22 18:44:26 2020 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 18:44:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update In-Reply-To: References: <1263549512.1976650.1598143431190.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <793014239.1976678.1598143466190.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Not a lot of progress... Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when slipping clutch (reduces speed) Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels freewheeling in neutral and engine off. Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! rg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Nock To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. Probably will go away when sitting on the ground. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From:Roger Grace via Healeys Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AMTo:'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise.Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed. At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.So changed out the R wheel bearing.No improvement Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.So changed out both universals.Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.No improvement. Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. Noise does appear to come from transmission. To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD.OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises. The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ? Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. Tkxrg _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.fawcett at cox.net Sat Aug 22 20:51:02 2020 From: m.fawcett at cox.net (Mark Fawcett) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 19:51:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators? In-Reply-To: <3C460BDBC56E4AAF8307621005C548B1@Inspiron660> References: <3C460BDBC56E4AAF8307621005C548B1@Inspiron660> Message-ID: I've converted to LED turn signals and brake lights. I'm using the original flasher, but to avoid hyper flashing (blinkers flashing VERY fast) you have to install LED light load resistors at all four corners. I didn't replace the dash light and it seems to operate as normal (mostly). Mark Fawcett 1959 BT7 On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Ron Fine wrote: > I currently have a mix of LED and incandescent bulbs in my side marker > lamps so my traditional flasher unit works fine with the current draw from > the halogen bulbs. > > I prefer the appearance of the original flasher can in the engine bay. I > would like to increase the brightness of the bulb behind the green lens in > the dash but Moss warns against using an LED there. I am trying to > understand why. That bulb is fed from one wire from the flasher that goes > no where else other than to ground. I can?t figure out why an LED in that > position would not work since the other halogen bulbs provide sufficient > current draw for the flasher to work for the side marker or turn signal > lights. I can leave the existing halogen bulb there but I like to > understand why things work or don?t. > > Thanks, > > Ron > > > > *From:* i erbs > *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2020 1:43 PM > *To:* Ron Fine > *Cc:* Healey Mailing List > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal > indicators? > > use a solid state flasher > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB [image: MG] > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > > > > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 10:54 AM Ron Fine > wrote: > >> Can someone explain to me why Moss catalog says ? LEDs should not be >> used for turn signal indicators? >> >> I have already replaced my gage lighting with LED, which work great but I >> don?t know why the turn signal indicator green colored light can?t also be >> an LED. It is simply an on-off light that should not be affected by the >> lower current draw. What am I missing here? I am using the original >> flasher. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ron Fine >> 61Bn7 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.fawcett at cox.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sat Aug 22 20:54:13 2020 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:54:13 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update Message-ID: Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross member?? DP On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;} Not a lot of progress... Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when slipping clutch (reduces speed) Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels freewheeling in neutral and engine off. Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! rg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Nock To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. Probably will go away when sitting on the ground. ? ? David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org ? From:Roger Grace via Healeys Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AM To:'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise ? AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious. Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! ? Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise. Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed. ? At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side. So changed out the R wheel bearing. No improvement ? Then while looking below noted that universals had some play. So changed out both universals. Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels. No improvement. ? Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. ? So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. ? Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. ? Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. ? Noise does appear to come from transmission. ? To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. ? About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD. OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises. ? The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ? ? Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ? Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? ? Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. Tkx rg _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Aug 22 21:41:41 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:41:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can't offer any suggestions, or even a good guess, but I think you're going to have to pull your OD to find out what's causing the noise (after you've eliminated all other possibilities, of course). When I rebuilt my gearbox about 3 years ago I decided to go through the OD since it had over 205K miles on it. I found this (see photo; note the deformed thrust washer and the fretting on the inside of the annulus). But the OD operated perfectly and was no louder than normal (it's possible I didn't notice an increase in noise over the 135K miles I drove the car, on top of all the other Healey noises). Now, the rebuilt OD has a slight 'beat frequency' when engaged that you can feel through the floor pans; I suspect I didn't get the sun/planetary/annulus depth setting exactly perfect, but it's operated fine for over 6K miles and hasn't gotten worse so I can live with it. I'd consider going through it again, but with limited opportunities to take long drives in the near future it's down the list of priorities. FWIW, I think a failed bearing would make a continuous, gruesome noise, though I did have a water pump fail on my dad's '55 T-Bird before I sold it. Sounded for all the world like rod knock. Bob On 8/22/2020 7:54 PM, David Porter wrote: > > Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing > but perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape > the surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on > aluminum to me. You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps > if you haven't, check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley > scraping the cross member??? DP > > > > On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys > wrote: > > > Not a lot of progress... > > Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. > > Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. > > Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. > With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when > slipping clutch (reduces speed) > Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. > Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels > freewheeling in neutral and engine off. > Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. > This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? > > Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! > > rg > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Nock > > To: Roger Grace >, > 'healeylist' > > Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise > > Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. > Probably > will go away when sitting on the ground. > David > Nock > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > 209 948 > 8767 > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > Help us have our Founder Norman > Nock inducteed into the > British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for > your favorites > by visiting the site > at. > www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org > > *From:*Roger Grace via Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AM > *To:*'healeylist' > *Subject:* [Healeys] Mystery noise > AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be > serious. > Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was > something simple ! > Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much > wind > and engine > noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine > and exhaust noise. > Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at > > prop shaft speed. > At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side. > So changed out the R wheel bearing. > No improvement > Then while looking below noted that universals had some play. > So changed out both universals. > Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels. > No improvement. > Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that > there > was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. > So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but > still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. > Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and > cut engine. Tunnel cover off. > Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a > rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. > Noise does appear to come from transmission. > To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't > appear to be coming from diff area. > Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia > of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. > About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced > from > > Moss ... ?) in the OD. > OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual > > noises. > The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent > > with a bearing failure ? > Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a > bad gear tooth etc. > OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. > Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. > So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ? > Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft > external to gearbox ? > or half shaft ? > Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced > among us. > Tkx > rg > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Annulus.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 2322113 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Aug 22 22:26:31 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 21:26:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove In-Reply-To: <9994654F-0705-4152-B5D1-38F1F4BF4F4D@sbcglobal.net> References: <20200822164722.A6D6FA1916@autox.team.net> <9994654F-0705-4152-B5D1-38F1F4BF4F4D@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Can't help with a photo, David, but I think resurrecting the sign is a great idea. No one can replace the original buildings and certainly not the great trees that may be lost, but a new 'DMH Memorial Grove' sign would be a great token of resilience (if not defiance). There are lots of truly great Healey roads in that area, and I drove most of them many times when I lived in the Bay Area. Hope some either survived, or can make a comeback (we're currently 'entertaining' my GF's step-mom, who had to evacuate their house near Lexington Reservoir). Bob On 8/22/2020 11:31 AM, David Nock wrote: > I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to > put together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the > topic. Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. > > I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the > year it was dedicated i can then start searching. > > > David Nock > > >> On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys >> > wrote: >> >> With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a >> facelift again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the >> conflagration but if not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call >> just as the seed will sprout again. >> P >> Sent fromMail for >> Windows 10 >> *From:*Henry G Leach via Healeys >> *Sent:*Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM >> *To:*'Bob Spidell' >> *Cc:*'Healeys' >> *Subject:*Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >> >> Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article >> from our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> >> From: "Bob Spidell" >> To:gradea1 at charter.net >> Cc: "Healeys" >> Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >> >> I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the >> redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. >> >> On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM,gradea1 at charter.net >> wrote: >> >> Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. >> Most of the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is >> an article from the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it >> again. I remember it well, and we had reunions there on Donald's >> birthday, July 3. >> Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from >> Sempervirens about those: >> https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park >> >> ?Sad news, Regards, Hank >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> >> From: "Bob Spidell" >> To: "Healeys" >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM >> Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >> >> Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I >> hope it >> survives. >> >> https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667> a=""> /> >> https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130/ /> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SupportTeam.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 >> >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ah100register at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 03:40:44 2020 From: ah100register at gmail.com (John Harper) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 10:40:44 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Is your fan belt in good order. I had one that was 'lumpy' with some cross sections being different to others. I had great difficulty working out where the vibration came from. In the event it was the car that told me by fracturing the dynamo bracket On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 03:54, David Porter wrote: > Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but > perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the > surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. > You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, > check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross > member?? DP > > > On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Not a lot of progress... > > Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. > > Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. > > Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. > With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when > slipping clutch (reduces speed) > Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. > Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels > freewheeling in neutral and engine off. > Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. > This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? > > Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! > > rg > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Nock > To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' > > Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise > > Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. > Probably > will go away when sitting on the ground. > > > David > Nock > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > 209 948 > 8767 > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > Help us have our Founder Norman > Nock inducteed into the > British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for > your favorites > by visiting the site > at. > www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org > > *From:*Roger Grace via Healeys > *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AM > *To:*'healeylist' > *Subject:* [Healeys] Mystery noise > > AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be > serious. > Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was > something simple ! > > Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind > and engine > noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine > and exhaust noise. > Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at > > prop shaft speed. > > At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side. > So changed out the R wheel bearing. > No improvement > > Then while looking below noted that universals had some play. > So changed out both universals. > Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels. > No improvement. > > Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there > was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. > > So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but > still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. > > Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and > cut engine. Tunnel cover off. > > Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a > rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. > > Noise does appear to come from transmission. > > To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't > appear to be coming from diff area. > Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia > of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. > > About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from > > Moss ... ?) in the OD. > OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual > > noises. > > The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent > > with a bearing failure ? > > Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a > bad gear tooth etc. > OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. > Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. > So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ? > Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft > external to gearbox ? > or half shaft ? > > Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced > among us. > Tkx > rg > ------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com > > -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is possible to get an electronic flasher built in to an original looking case (try Better Car Lighting website or DIY) Mike56 BN2Scotland Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ah100register at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 05:59:50 2020 From: ah100register at gmail.com (John Harper) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 12:59:50 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Re - LEDs should not be used for signal indicators In-Reply-To: <1271782563.7142204.1598176331978@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1271782563.7142204.1598176331978.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1271782563.7142204.1598176331978@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just a small detail. The early flasher types FL2 and FL3 with screw terminals (not Lucar) did not have a bi-metal strip but an actuating wire. See attached (Internal.jpg) When current passed this wire became nearly red hot and expanded until it relaxed its hold of the over-centre contact that tripped and removed current flow. When the actuator wire cooled it became shorter causing the contacts to make and re start the heating cycle. This wire system is not very robust and is the reason for saying *do not drop*. It does not like heat which is why it should be mounted inside the car and not in the engine compartment.. It will only function correctly if the load is between 36 and 40 watts. LED lamps take less than that so a resistor needs to be added across all the LED lamps. If there is a short or perhaps say 4 lamps rather 2 connected by mistake the actuator wire is likely to be burnt out and the unit beyond repair On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 10:52, mike brooks via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > The reason is that the original electro mechanical flasher unit needs a > reasonably accurate 36- 42 watts to operate the bi- metallic strip at the > correct tick tock rate. This is why if one bulb fails, the flasher unit > changes speed. LEDs take so little current that the total wattage of two > LEDs is only a fraction of that necessary. The guy who has two incandescent > bulbs and an LED side indicator will be fine, because the front and back > bulbs are providing the wattage. An LED bulb in the dashboard light will > work fine. > > The best fix is LED bulbs all round with an electronic flasher unit. It is > possible to get an electronic flasher built in to an original looking case > (try Better Car Lighting website or DIY) > > Mike > 56 BN2 > Scotland > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com > > -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: FL2.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 7040 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I had one that was 'lumpy' with some cross > sections being different to others. I had great difficulty working out > where the vibration came from. In the event it was the car that told me by > fracturing the dynamo bracket > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 03:54, David Porter > wrote: > >> Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but >> perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the >> surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. >> You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, >> check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross >> member?? DP >> >> >> On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Not a lot of progress... >> >> Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. >> >> Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. >> >> Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. >> With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when >> slipping clutch (reduces speed) >> Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. >> Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels >> freewheeling in neutral and engine off. >> Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. >> This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? >> >> Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! >> >> rg >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: David Nock >> To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' < >> healeys at autox.team.net> >> Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise >> >> Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. >> Probably >> will go away when sitting on the ground. >> >> >> David >> Nock >> healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >> 209 948 >> 8767 >> www.britishcarspecialists.com >> >> Help us have our Founder Norman >> Nock inducteed into the >> British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for >> your favorites >> by visiting the site >> at. >> www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org >> >> *From:*Roger Grace via Healeys >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AM >> *To:*'healeylist' >> *Subject:* [Healeys] Mystery noise >> >> AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be >> serious. >> Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was >> something simple ! >> >> Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much >> wind >> and engine >> noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine >> and exhaust noise. >> Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at >> >> prop shaft speed. >> >> At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side. >> So changed out the R wheel bearing. >> No improvement >> >> Then while looking below noted that universals had some play. >> So changed out both universals. >> Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels. >> No improvement. >> >> Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that >> there >> was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. >> >> So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but >> still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. >> >> Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and >> cut engine. Tunnel cover off. >> >> Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a >> rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. >> >> Noise does appear to come from transmission. >> >> To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't >> appear to be coming from diff area. >> Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia >> of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. >> >> About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced >> from >> >> Moss ... ?) in the OD. >> OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual >> >> noises. >> >> The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent >> >> with a bearing failure ? >> >> Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a >> bad gear tooth etc. >> OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. >> Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. >> So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ? >> Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft >> external to gearbox ? >> or half shaft ? >> >> Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced >> among us. >> Tkx >> rg >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation >> $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com >> >> > > -- > Best wishes > > John Harper > > AHC UK 100 Register Secretary > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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DP On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;}Not a lot of progress... Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when slipping clutch (reduces speed) Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels freewheeling in neutral and engine off. Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! rg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Nock To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. Probably will go away when sitting on the ground. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From:Roger Grace via Healeys Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AMTo:'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise.Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed. At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.So changed out the R wheel bearing.No improvement Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.So changed out both universals.Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.No improvement. Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. Noise does appear to come from transmission. To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD.OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises. The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ? Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. Tkxrg _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roggrace at telus.net Sun Aug 23 09:34:39 2020 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 09:34:39 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <841908243.2577546.1598196879492.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Thank you. Noise is independent of engine rotating; most apparent with engine off in neutral and coasting - in the stillness of no engine noises.rg ----- Original Message ----- From: John Harper To: David Porter Cc: Roger Grace , David Nock , healeys at autox team. net Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 03:40:44 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update David Is your fan belt in good order. I had one that was 'lumpy' with some cross sections being different to others. I had great difficulty working out where the vibration came from. In the event it was the car that told me by fracturing the dynamo bracket On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 03:54, David Porter wrote: Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross member?? DP On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: Not a lot of progress... Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when slipping clutch (reduces speed) Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels freewheeling in neutral and engine off. Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! rg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Nock To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. Probably will go away when sitting on the ground. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From:Roger Grace via Healeys Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AMTo:'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise.Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed. At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.So changed out the R wheel bearing.No improvement Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.So changed out both universals.Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.No improvement. Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. Noise does appear to come from transmission. To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD.OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises. The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ? Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. Tkxrg _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Aug 23 09:36:11 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 08:36:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update In-Reply-To: <1746284594.2575206.1598196527438.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> References: <1746284594.2575206.1598196527438.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <94232c21-243d-ae37-09b2-0a35e4401091@comcast.net> Hmmmm ... sounds like it could be coming from the unidirectional clutch in the OD. Mine had 205K miles, and showed no wear or damage, though. On 8/23/2020 8:28 AM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: > Thank you. > Noise is independent of engine; it is most noticeable with engine off > and in neutral and coasting. > rg > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Porter > To: Roger Grace , David Nock > Cc: healeys at autox team. net > Sent: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:54:13 -0600 (MDT) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update > > Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing > but perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape > the surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on > aluminum to me. You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps > if you haven't, check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley > scraping the cross member??? DP > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ab7vf at yahoo.com Sun Aug 23 10:01:16 2020 From: ab7vf at yahoo.com (jim) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 16:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update In-Reply-To: <1746284594.2575206.1598196527438.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> References: <1746284594.2575206.1598196527438.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <1592337997.4648855.1598198476362@mail.yahoo.com> Just a random thought...The community college I lived near and took classes at had an Automotive Tech program.? And a Chassis Dyno ..Maybe worth a shot if available Jim On Sunday, August 23, 2020, 8:29:24 AM PDT, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: Thank you. Noise is independent of engine; it is most noticeable with engine off and in neutral and coasting. rg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Porter To: Roger Grace , David Nock Cc: healeys at autox team. net Sent: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:54:13 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross member??? DP On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: Not a lot of progress... Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when slipping clutch (reduces speed) Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels freewheeling in neutral and engine off. Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! rg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Nock To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. Probably will go away when sitting on the ground.??David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org ?From:Roger Grace via Healeys Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AMTo:'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise?AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! ?Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise.Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed.?At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.So changed out the R wheel bearing.No improvement?Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.So changed out both universals.Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.No improvement.?Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one.?So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N.?Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. ?Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. ?Noise does appear to come from transmission. ?To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing.?About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD.OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises.?The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ??Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? ?Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. 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URL: From roggrace at telus.net Sun Aug 23 10:29:59 2020 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 10:29:59 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update In-Reply-To: <94232c21-243d-ae37-09b2-0a35e4401091@comcast.net> References: <1746284594.2575206.1598196527438.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> <94232c21-243d-ae37-09b2-0a35e4401091@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1150717701.2603685.1598200199602.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Thank you. Had mine out 2 weeks ago and showed no obvious distress.rg ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 09:36:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update Hmmmm ... sounds like it could be coming from the unidirectional clutch in the OD. Mine had 205K miles, and showed no wear or damage, though. On 8/23/2020 8:28 AM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: Thank you. Noise is independent of engine; it is most noticeable with engine off and in neutral and coasting. rg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Porter To: Roger Grace , David Nock Cc: healeys at autox team. net Sent: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:54:13 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross member?? DP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sun Aug 23 11:25:53 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 17:25:53 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update Message-ID: Here is a check chart from Glenn's Austin-Healey Guide that might give you a clue. Remember, you should "never coast with the gearbox in neutral"-that way you won't be able to hear any noises. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Roger Grace via Healeys" To: "Bob Spidell" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday August 23 2020 9:31:00AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update Thank you. Had mine out 2 weeks ago and showed no obvious distress. rg ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 09:36:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update Hmmmm ... sounds like it could be coming from the unidirectional clutch in the OD. Mine had 205K miles, and showed no wear or damage, though. On 8/23/2020 8:28 AM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: Thank you. Noise is independent of engine; it is most noticeable with engine off and in neutral and coasting. rg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Porter [1] To: Roger Grace [2], David Nock [3] Cc: healeys at autox team. net [4] Sent: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:54:13 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross member?? DP Links: ------ [1] mailto:frogeye at porterscustom.com [2] mailto:roggrace at telus.net [3] mailto:healeydoc at gmail.com [4] mailto:healeys at autox.team.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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M On Sun., Aug. 23, 2020, 11:35 a.m. Roger Grace via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Thank you. > Noise is independent of engine rotating; most apparent with engine off in > neutral and coasting - in the stillness of no engine noises. > rg > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Harper > To: David Porter > Cc: Roger Grace , David Nock , > healeys at autox team. net > Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 03:40:44 -0600 (MDT) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update > > David > > Is your fan belt in good order. I had one that was 'lumpy' with some cross > sections being different to others. I had great difficulty working out > where the vibration came from. In the event it was the car that told me by > fracturing the dynamo bracket > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 03:54, David Porter > wrote: > >> Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but >> perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the >> surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. >> You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, >> check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross >> member?? DP >> >> >> On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Not a lot of progress... >> >> Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. >> >> Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. >> >> Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. >> With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when >> slipping clutch (reduces speed) >> Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. >> Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels >> freewheeling in neutral and engine off. >> Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. >> This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? >> >> Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! >> >> rg >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: David Nock >> To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' < >> healeys at autox.team.net> >> Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise >> >> Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. >> Probably >> will go away when sitting on the ground. >> >> >> David >> Nock >> healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >> 209 948 >> 8767 >> www.britishcarspecialists.com >> >> Help us have our Founder Norman >> Nock inducteed into the >> British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for >> your favorites >> by visiting the site >> at. >> www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org >> >> *From:*Roger Grace via Healeys >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AM >> *To:*'healeylist' >> *Subject:* [Healeys] Mystery noise >> >> AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be >> serious. >> Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was >> something simple ! >> >> Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much >> wind >> and engine >> noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine >> and exhaust noise. >> Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at >> >> prop shaft speed. >> >> At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side. >> So changed out the R wheel bearing. >> No improvement >> >> Then while looking below noted that universals had some play. >> So changed out both universals. >> Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels. >> No improvement. >> >> Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that >> there >> was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. >> >> So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but >> still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. >> >> Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and >> cut engine. Tunnel cover off. >> >> Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a >> rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. >> >> Noise does appear to come from transmission. >> >> To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't >> appear to be coming from diff area. >> Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia >> of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. >> >> About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced >> from >> >> Moss ... ?) in the OD. >> OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual >> >> noises. >> >> The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent >> >> with a bearing failure ? >> >> Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a >> bad gear tooth etc. >> OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. >> Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. >> So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ? >> Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft >> external to gearbox ? >> or half shaft ? >> >> Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced >> among us. >> Tkx >> rg >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation >> $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com >> >> > > -- > Best wishes > > John Harper > > AHC UK 100 Register Secretary > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Too bad you didn?t record the BJ8 engine number, Ben :^( Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ben via Healeys Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 2:19 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 Registry info for BNJ7L24308 To all BJ7 owners or the registry guru: In one of the purges of excess paper I found the bill of sale for HBJ7L24308 dated May 26, 1973. I purchased this 1964 car in S. Miami, FL from a young man who's father owned the car in Michigan. Although a BJ7, it had a BJ8 engine installed (number not recorded). If the owner is out there and would like this document, let me know. Also, if the registry would like the information I will provide it. BTW...I paid...$220 for a nice, running car that I drove over 12000 miles before selling in 1975. Ben Cohen Tucson, AZ BN1, BN7 & BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eps2660 at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 12:36:17 2020 From: eps2660 at gmail.com (Elton S) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 14:36:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update In-Reply-To: References: <841908243.2577546.1598196879492.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: Speedo cable noise? Try disconnecting the speedo cable at the gearbox. Elton On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 1:32 PM Michael Salter via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Are 2nd or 4th gears still perquisites ? > > M > > On Sun., Aug. 23, 2020, 11:35 a.m. Roger Grace via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Thank you. >> Noise is independent of engine rotating; most apparent with engine off in >> neutral and coasting - in the stillness of no engine noises. >> rg >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: John Harper >> To: David Porter >> Cc: Roger Grace , David Nock , >> healeys at autox team. net >> Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 03:40:44 -0600 (MDT) >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update >> >> David >> >> Is your fan belt in good order. I had one that was 'lumpy' with some >> cross sections being different to others. I had great difficulty working >> out where the vibration came from. In the event it was the car that told me >> by fracturing the dynamo bracket >> >> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 03:54, David Porter >> wrote: >> >>> Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but >>> perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the >>> surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. >>> You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, >>> check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross >>> member?? DP >>> >>> >>> On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> Not a lot of progress... >>> >>> Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. >>> >>> Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. >>> >>> Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. >>> With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when >>> slipping clutch (reduces speed) >>> Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. >>> Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels >>> freewheeling in neutral and engine off. >>> Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. >>> This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? >>> >>> Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! >>> >>> rg >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: David Nock >>> To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> >>> Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) >>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise >>> >>> Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. >>> Probably >>> will go away when sitting on the ground. >>> >>> >>> David >>> Nock >>> healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >>> 209 948 >>> 8767 >>> www.britishcarspecialists.com >>> >>> Help us have our Founder Norman >>> Nock inducteed into the >>> British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for >>> your favorites >>> by visiting the site >>> at. >>> www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org >>> >>> *From:*Roger Grace via Healeys >>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AM >>> *To:*'healeylist' >>> *Subject:* [Healeys] Mystery noise >>> >>> AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be >>> serious. >>> Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was >>> something simple ! >>> >>> Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much >>> wind >>> and engine >>> noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine >>> and exhaust noise. >>> Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at >>> >>> prop shaft speed. >>> >>> At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side. >>> So changed out the R wheel bearing. >>> No improvement >>> >>> Then while looking below noted that universals had some play. >>> So changed out both universals. >>> Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels. >>> No improvement. >>> >>> Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that >>> there >>> was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. >>> >>> So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but >>> still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. >>> >>> Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and >>> cut engine. Tunnel cover off. >>> >>> Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a >>> rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. >>> >>> Noise does appear to come from transmission. >>> >>> To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't >>> appear to be coming from diff area. >>> Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the >>> inertia >>> of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. >>> >>> About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced >>> from >>> >>> Moss ... ?) in the OD. >>> OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual >>> >>> noises. >>> >>> The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent >>> >>> with a bearing failure ? >>> >>> Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a >>> bad gear tooth etc. >>> OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. >>> Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. >>> So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ? >>> Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft >>> external to gearbox ? >>> or half shaft ? >>> >>> Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced >>> among us. >>> Tkx >>> rg >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation >>> $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Best wishes >> >> John Harper >> >> AHC UK 100 Register Secretary >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eps2660 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roggrace at telus.net Sun Aug 23 13:02:15 2020 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 13:02:15 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update In-Reply-To: References: <841908243.2577546.1598196879492.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <951800712.2664672.1598209335513.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Thank you No cable installed.rg ----- Original Message ----- From: Elton S To: Michael Salter Cc: Roger Grace , healeys at autox team. net Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 12:36:17 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update Speedo cable noise? Try disconnecting the speedo cable at the gearbox.Elton On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 1:32 PM Michael Salter via Healeys wrote: Are 2nd or 4th gears still perquisites ? M On Sun., Aug. 23, 2020, 11:35 a.m. Roger Grace via Healeys, wrote: Thank you. Noise is independent of engine rotating; most apparent with engine off in neutral and coasting - in the stillness of no engine noises. rg ----- Original Message ----- From: John Harper To: David Porter Cc: Roger Grace , David Nock , healeys at autox team. net Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 03:40:44 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update David Is your fan belt in good order. I had one that was 'lumpy' with some cross sections being different to others. I had great difficulty working out where the vibration came from. In the event it was the car that told me by fracturing the dynamo bracket On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 03:54, David Porter wrote: Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross member?? DP On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: Not a lot of progress... Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when slipping clutch (reduces speed) Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels freewheeling in neutral and engine off. Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! rg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Nock To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. Probably will go away when sitting on the ground. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From:Roger Grace via Healeys Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AMTo:'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise.Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed. At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.So changed out the R wheel bearing.No improvement Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.So changed out both universals.Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.No improvement. Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. Noise does appear to come from transmission. To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD.OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises. The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ? Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. 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URL: From roggrace at telus.net Sun Aug 23 13:04:20 2020 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 13:04:20 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update In-Reply-To: References: <763756471.2665232.1598209432642.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <1092347050.2665548.1598209460736.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> M - thank you for your interest and ideas. Ok have just done another test session. All listening with one of those stethoscope things. Seems worst at rear area of GB. (a) Prop shaft connected. Both rear wheels free and wheels mounted. Same results for single wheel free. Noise is distinct when start in 4th at about 20 MPH; OD out; shift to neutral and cut ignition. As wheels slow down the noise becomes more pronounced and don't rally need scope to hear the beat - particularly as it approaches zero speed. At higher speed the the fast repetitions makes the sound of the individual beats blend together. (b) Prop shaft not connected and engine running In this mode not possible to do the shift to neutral and cut ignition routine as engine slows down too quickly. So run at as slow a speed as possible in the different gears. OD out all 3 gears similar. the beat sound not as loud as at (a) but do believe that is because of the background engine noise.So in 2nd was able to control speed best and at low speed could hear the individual beats at low speed. Could also hear the problem in 3rd and 4th but speed higher so not as distinct because of the increased RPM. 1st just too noisy for testing. Getting close to biting the bullet pulling it out ... grr !! rg ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Salter via Healeys To: John Harper Cc: healeys at autox team. net Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 06:21:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update The fact that you report : "With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when slipping clutch (reduces speed)"Is probably significant. I would be making every effort to determine that 3rd gear eliminates the noise completely before going any further.Then carefully considering what is different in 2nd and 4th. M On Sun., Aug. 23, 2020, 5:41 a.m. John Harper via Healeys, wrote: David Is your fan belt in good order. I had one that was 'lumpy' with some cross sections being different to others. I had great difficulty working out where the vibration came from. In the event it was the car that told me by fracturing the dynamo bracket On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 03:54, David Porter wrote: Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross member?? DP On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: Not a lot of progress... Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when slipping clutch (reduces speed) Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels freewheeling in neutral and engine off. Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! rg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Nock To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. Probably will go away when sitting on the ground. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From:Roger Grace via Healeys Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AMTo:'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise.Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed. At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.So changed out the R wheel bearing.No improvement Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.So changed out both universals.Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.No improvement. Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. Noise does appear to come from transmission. To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD.OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises. The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ? Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. 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MG Parts | TR Parts | Triumph Parts | Austin Healey Parts | Jag Parts | Jag Bits | Sprite Parts | Midget Parts | Spitfire Parts | Bugeye Parts | Frog Eye Parts | Jaguar Parts | Sunbeam Parts | Classic Car Parts | Pertronix | Gunson | Moto-Lita | LBCa | | | | MG Parts | TR Parts | Triumph Parts | Austin Healey Parts | Jag Parts | ... Little British Car Company, Ltd. is a supplier of quality classic British (and other) car parts and accessories.... | | | On Saturday, August 22, 2020, 7:52:01 PM PDT, Mark Fawcett wrote: I've converted to LED turn signals and brake lights. I'm using the original flasher, but to avoid hyper flashing (blinkers flashing VERY fast) you have to install LED light load resistors at all four corners. I didn't replace the dash light and it seems to?operate as normal (mostly). Mark Fawcett1959 BT7 On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Ron Fine wrote: I currently have a mix of LED and incandescent bulbs in my side marker lamps so my traditional flasher unit works fine with the current draw from the halogen bulbs. ?I prefer the appearance of the original flasher can in the engine bay.? I would like to increase the brightness of the bulb behind the green lens in the dash but Moss warns against using an LED there.? I am trying to understand why.? That bulb is fed from one wire from the flasher that? goes no where else other than to ground.? I can?t figure out why an LED in that position would not work since the other halogen bulbs provide sufficient current draw for the flasher to work for the side marker or turn signal lights.? I can leave the existing halogen bulb there but I like to understand why things work or don?t.?Thanks,?Ron???From: i erbs Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 1:43 PMTo: Ron Fine Cc: Healey Mailing List Subject: Re: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators??use a solid state flasher Ira Erbs Portland,OR????? _______????????????????????????????????? _______ ???? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) ???????? (_________________________)????????? BT7 engine and disk brakes??1967 MGB? ?A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words? | | Virus-free. www.avg.com | ?On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 10:54 AM Ron Fine wrote: Can someone explain to me why Moss catalog says ??LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators? ? I have already replaced my gage lighting with LED, which work great but I don?t know why the turn? signal indicator green colored light can?t also be an LED.? It is simply an on-off light that should not be affected by the lower current draw.? What am I missing here?? I am using the original flasher. ? Thanks, ? 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URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Aug 23 14:20:24 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 20:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update In-Reply-To: <1092347050.2665548.1598209460736.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> References: <763756471.2665232.1598209432642.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> <1092347050.2665548.1598209460736.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <451424882.6349353.1598214024368@mail.yahoo.com> You know where this is going.? Pull it.Mike MacLean On Sunday, August 23, 2020, 12:05:05 PM PDT, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: #yiv2787218348 body {min-height:100%;color:#000000;font-size:12pt;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;}M - thank you for your interest and ideas. Ok have just done another test session. All listening with one of those stethoscope things. Seems worst at rear area of GB. (a) Prop shaft connected. Both rear wheels free and wheels mounted. Same results for single wheel free. Noise is distinct when start in 4th at about 20 MPH; OD out; shift to neutral and cut ignition. As wheels slow down the noise becomes more pronounced and don't rally need scope to hear the beat - particularly as it approaches zero speed. At higher speed the the fast repetitions makes the sound of the individual beats blend together. (b) Prop shaft not connected and engine running In this mode not possible to do the shift to neutral and cut ignition routine as engine slows down too quickly. So run at as slow a speed as possible in the different gears. OD out all 3 gears similar. the beat sound not as loud as at (a) but do believe that is because of the background engine noise.So in 2nd was able to control speed best and at low speed could hear the individual beats at low speed. Could also hear the problem in 3rd and 4th but speed higher so not as distinct because of the increased RPM. 1st just too noisy for testing. Getting close to biting the bullet pulling it out ... grr !! rg ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Salter via Healeys To: John Harper Cc: healeys at autox team. net Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 06:21:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update The fact that you report :?"With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when slipping clutch (reduces speed)"Is probably significant.? I would be making every effort to determine that 3rd gear eliminates the noise completely before going any further.Then carefully considering what is different in 2nd and 4th. M On Sun., Aug. 23, 2020, 5:41 a.m. John Harper via Healeys, wrote: David Is your fan belt in good order.?I had one that was 'lumpy' with some cross sections being different to others. I had great difficulty?working out where the vibration came from. In the event it was the car that told me by fracturing?the dynamo bracket On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 03:54, David Porter wrote: Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross member??? DP On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: Not a lot of progress... Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when slipping clutch (reduces speed) Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels freewheeling in neutral and engine off. Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! rg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Nock To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. Probably will go away when sitting on the ground.??David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org ?From:Roger Grace via Healeys Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AMTo:'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise?AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! ?Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise.Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed.?At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.So changed out the R wheel bearing.No improvement?Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.So changed out both universals.Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.No improvement.?Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one.?So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N.?Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. ?Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. ?Noise does appear to come from transmission. ?To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing.?About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD.OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises.?The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ??Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? ?Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. Tkxrg _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 20:28:32 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 19:28:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove In-Reply-To: <9994654F-0705-4152-B5D1-38F1F4BF4F4D@sbcglobal.net> References: <20200822164722.A6D6FA1916@autox.team.net> <9994654F-0705-4152-B5D1-38F1F4BF4F4D@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: [image: image.png] Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM David Nock via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to put > together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the topic. > Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. > > I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the year > it was dedicated i can then start searching. > > > David Nock > > > On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys > wrote: > > With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a facelift > again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the conflagration but if > not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call just as the seed will > sprout again. > P > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *Henry G Leach via Healeys > *Sent: *Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM > *To: *'Bob Spidell' > *Cc: *'Healeys' > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove > > > Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article from > our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: gradea1 at charter.net > Cc: "Healeys" > Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove > > I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the > redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. > On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: > > Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of > the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from > the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it > well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. > > Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from > Sempervirens about those: > > https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park > > > > Sad news, Regards, Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: "Healeys" > Cc: > Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM > Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove > > Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it > survives. > > > https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667 a=""> /> > https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130/ /> > _______________________________________________ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Noise is distinct when start in 4th at about 20 MPH; OD out; shift to neutral and cut ignition. As wheels slow down the noise becomes more pronounced and don't rally need scope to hear the beat - particularly as it approaches zero speed. At higher speed the the fast repetitions makes the sound of the individual beats blend together. (b) Prop shaft not connected and engine running In this mode not possible to do the shift to neutral and cut ignition routine as engine slows down too quickly. So run at as slow a speed as possible in the different gears. OD out all 3 gears similar. the beat sound not as loud as at (a) but do believe that is because of the background engine noise.So in 2nd was able to control speed best and at low speed could hear the individual beats at low speed. Could also hear the problem in 3rd and 4th but speed higher so not as distinct because of the increased RPM. 1st just too noisy for testing. Getting close to biting the bullet pulling it out ... grr !! rg ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Salter via Healeys To: John Harper Cc: healeys at autox team. net Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 06:21:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update The fact that you report : "With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when slipping clutch (reduces speed)"Is probably significant. I would be making every effort to determine that 3rd gear eliminates the noise completely before going any further.Then carefully considering what is different in 2nd and 4th. M On Sun., Aug. 23, 2020, 5:41 a.m. John Harper via Healeys, wrote: David Is your fan belt in good order. I had one that was 'lumpy' with some cross sections being different to others. I had great difficulty working out where the vibration came from. In the event it was the car that told me by fracturing the dynamo bracket On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 03:54, David Porter wrote: Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing but perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to scrape the surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel on aluminum to me. You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. perhaps if you haven't, check for a failed motor mount and the crank pulley scraping the cross member?? DP On August 22, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: Not a lot of progress... Brake cable is well clear of propshaft and securely clipped. Universal U joint/spline phasing is correct. Been doing lots of listening with stethoscope. With propshaft disconnected, am able hear noise in 2nd or 4th when slipping clutch (reduces speed) Assume is the same noise and less distinct because of the engine noise. Not nearly as distinct as when shaft is connected and rear wheels freewheeling in neutral and engine off. Loudest area seems to be rear GB casing near rear bearing. This still does not sound like a bearing to my ears ? Plan to try to get a 2nd expert opinion with younger ears ! rg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Nock To: Roger Grace , 'healeylist' Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. Probably will go away when sitting on the ground. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net [7] 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com [8] Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org [9] FROM:Roger Grace via Healeys SENT: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AMTO:'healeylist' SUBJECT: [Healeys] Mystery noise AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was something simple ! Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust noise.Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at prop shaft speed. At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.So changed out the R wheel bearing.No improvement Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.So changed out both universals.Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.No improvement. Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one. So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still the pulsating noise while coasting in N. Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine. Tunnel cover off. Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an e motor. Noise does appear to come from transmission. To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff area. Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing. About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from Moss ... ?) in the OD.OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual noises. The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent with a bearing failure ? Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth etc. OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there. Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious. So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft external to gearbox ? or half shaft ? Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us. 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URL: From frogeye at porterscustom.com Mon Aug 24 07:00:17 2020 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 07:00:17 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update In-Reply-To: <94232c21-243d-ae37-09b2-0a35e4401091@comcast.net> References: <1746284594.2575206.1598196527438.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> <94232c21-243d-ae37-09b2-0a35e4401091@comcast.net> Message-ID: <64f70adf-9926-f935-f209-e8278297c5db@porterscustom.com> Rodger... Coasting? Don't know how that happens with the engine off... unless there is a broken shaft in the gear box or O/D that carries on with momentum.. only 2nd and fourth is odd too, take the top cover off the box/or side cover and look for an obvious failure, if none proceed to the O/D and repeat.. On 8/23/2020 9:36 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Hmmmm ... sounds like it could be coming from the unidirectional > clutch in the OD. Mine had 205K miles, and showed no wear or damage, > though. > > > On 8/23/2020 8:28 AM, Roger Grace via Healeys wrote: >> Thank you. >> Noise is independent of engine; it is most noticeable with engine off >> and in neutral and coasting. >> rg >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: David Porter >> To: Roger Grace , David Nock >> Cc: healeys at autox team. net >> Sent: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:54:13 -0600 (MDT) >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery noise - Update >> >> Well, then it is rotational for sure, not a bearing that is failing >> but perhaps already failed, perhaps allowing the O/D annulus to >> scrape the surrounding housing...though it did not sound like steel >> on aluminum to me. You have moved the noise from rear to midway.. >> perhaps if you haven't, check for a failed motor mount and the crank >> pulley scraping the cross member??? 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URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 09:58:55 2020 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 08:58:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove In-Reply-To: References: <20200822164722.A6D6FA1916@autox.team.net> <9994654F-0705-4152-B5D1-38F1F4BF4F4D@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I don't mean to be disrespectful but ...... why is there a memorial for Donald Healey in a Redwood Grove? I remember when it was being strongly promoted by Oregon club member BillBolton and ultimately dedicated. It didn't make sense to me then. I still don't get it. Was there ever any personal connection between the Redwoods and Donald that I was not aware of? On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:29 PM i erbs via Healeys wrote: > [image: image.png] > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie,OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB [image: MG] > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > > > > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > > <#m_-4935333975427086937_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM David Nock via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to >> put together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the >> topic. Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. >> >> I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the year >> it was dedicated i can then start searching. >> >> >> David Nock >> >> >> On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys >> wrote: >> >> With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a facelift >> again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the conflagration but if >> not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call just as the seed will >> sprout again. >> P >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows 10 >> >> *From: *Henry G Leach via Healeys >> *Sent: *Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM >> *To: *'Bob Spidell' >> *Cc: *'Healeys' >> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >> >> >> Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article from >> our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> >> From: "Bob Spidell" >> To: gradea1 at charter.net >> Cc: "Healeys" >> Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >> >> I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the >> redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. >> On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: >> >> Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of >> the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from >> the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it >> well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. >> >> Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from >> Sempervirens about those: >> >> https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park >> >> >> >> Sad news, Regards, Hank >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> From: "Bob Spidell" >> To: "Healeys" >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM >> Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >> >> Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it >> survives. >> >> >> https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667> a=""> /> >> https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130/ /> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> > > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > > <#m_-4935333975427086937_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Was there ever any > personal connection between the Redwoods and Donald that I was not aware of? > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:29 PM i erbs via Healeys > wrote: > >> [image: image.png] >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie,OR >> _______ _______ >> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) >> (_________________________) >> BT7 engine and disk brakes >> >> >> 1967 MGB [image: MG] >> >> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti >> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words >> >> >> >> Virus-free. >> www.avg.com >> >> <#m_800610417832555254_m_-4935333975427086937_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM David Nock via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to >>> put together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the >>> topic. Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. >>> >>> I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the year >>> it was dedicated i can then start searching. >>> >>> >>> David Nock >>> >>> >>> On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys >>> wrote: >>> >>> With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a >>> facelift again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the conflagration >>> but if not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call just as the seed >>> will sprout again. >>> P >>> >>> Sent from Mail for >>> Windows 10 >>> >>> *From: *Henry G Leach via Healeys >>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM >>> *To: *'Bob Spidell' >>> *Cc: *'Healeys' >>> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >>> >>> >>> Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article from >>> our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank >>> >>> ----------------------------------------- >>> >>> From: "Bob Spidell" >>> To: gradea1 at charter.net >>> Cc: "Healeys" >>> Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM >>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >>> >>> I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the >>> redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. >>> On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: >>> >>> Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of >>> the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from >>> the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it >>> well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. >>> >>> Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from >>> Sempervirens about those: >>> >>> https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park >>> >>> >>> >>> Sad news, Regards, Hank >>> >>> ----------------------------------------- >>> From: "Bob Spidell" >>> To: "Healeys" >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM >>> Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >>> >>> Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it >>> survives. >>> >>> >>> https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667>> a=""> /> >>> https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130/ /> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>> >>> >> >> Virus-free. >> www.avg.com >> >> <#m_800610417832555254_m_-4935333975427086937_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 164846 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Mon Aug 24 11:00:26 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:00:26 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Message-ID: OK lets get the record straight. First of all, it was Geoff Healey who liked fishing-not Donald. He came to the Oregon meet and stayed with the Boltons and went fishing. The Oregon club dedicated a fishing shed in Grants Pass in honor of Geoff. The DMH Memorial grove was the idea from Dick Santana (SMOG) as he found out that for $10K we could purchase a whole grove for someone. He raised the money and it got done. Then we had a dedication in 1989-just after the meet in Rippling River, OR. Geoff & Margo and John and Joy Healey attended the meet and the dedication. The sign was refurbished and rededicated in 2003. At the same time, another group of Healey enthusiasts; some in AHCPC and some in AHCA and with the support of other regional clubs, started another drive to purchase a stained glass window in the church in Warwick in honor of Donald. That too was accomplished. (at least it was closer to his home) As far as making sense of it all; folks wanted to honor these people in whatever way they could and although Donald never had anything to do with the Big Basin Park, it was a gesture of respect by Healey owners. I too, thought it a bit off the mark, but never-the-less contributed to the grove fund as respect for Donald. Its too bad that the sign was not cast in stone, and if redone, maybe it should, as that is the second monument that we have lost. You can find the original dedication story and photos in the club magazine for July/August 1989 issue. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com -----------------------------------------From: "i erbs via Healeys" To: "richard mayor" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Monday August 24 2020 9:12:12AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove He loved to go fishing there as I recall On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 8:59 AM richard mayor wrote: I don't mean to be disrespectful but ...... why is there a memorial for Donald Healey in a Redwood Grove? I remember when it was being strongly promoted by Oregon club member BillBolton and ultimately dedicated. It didn't make sense to me then. I still don't get it. Was there ever any personal connection between the Redwoods and Donald that I was not aware of? On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:29 PM i erbs via Healeys wrote: Ira ErbsMilwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ ____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words [3] Virus-free. www.avg.com [4] [5] On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM David Nock via Healeys wrote: I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to put together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the topic. Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the year it was dedicated i can then start searching. David Nock On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys wrote: With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a facelift again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the conflagration but if not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call just as the seed will sprout again. P Sent from Mail [8] for Windows 10 FROM: Henry G Leach via Healeys [9] SENT: Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM TO: 'Bob Spidell' [10] CC: 'Healeys' [11] SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article from our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: gradea1 at charter.net [12] Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before.On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net [13] wrote:Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from Sempervirens about those: [14]https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park [15] Sad news, Regards, Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Healeys" Cc: Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it survives. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 16-Donald Healey.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 544301 bytes Desc: not available URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 11:13:19 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 10:13:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks fot setting the record straight On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 10:00 AM wrote: > OK lets get the record straight. First of all, it was Geoff Healey who > liked fishing-not Donald. He came to the Oregon meet and stayed with the > Boltons and went fishing. The Oregon club dedicated a fishing shed in > Grants Pass in honor of Geoff. > > The DMH Memorial grove was the idea from Dick Santana (SMOG) as he found > out that for $10K we could purchase a whole grove for someone. He raised > the money and it got done. Then we had a dedication in 1989-just after the > meet in Rippling River, OR. Geoff & Margo and John and Joy Healey attended > the meet and the dedication. The sign was refurbished and rededicated in > 2003. > > At the same time, another group of Healey enthusiasts; some in AHCPC and > some in AHCA and with the support of other regional clubs, started another > drive to purchase a stained glass window in the church in Warwick in honor > of Donald. That too was accomplished. (at least it was closer to his home) > > As far as making sense of it all; folks wanted to honor these people in > whatever way they could and although Donald never had anything to do with > the Big Basin Park, it was a gesture of respect by Healey owners. > > I too, thought it a bit off the mark, but never-the-less contributed to > the grove fund as respect for Donald. Its too bad that the sign was not > cast in stone, and if redone, maybe it should, as that is the second > monument that we have lost. > > You can find the original dedication story and photos in the club magazine > for July/August 1989 issue. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "i erbs via Healeys" > To: "richard mayor" > Cc: "Healeys" > Sent: Monday August 24 2020 9:12:12AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove > > He loved to go fishing there as I recall > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 8:59 AM richard mayor wrote: > >> I don't mean to be disrespectful but ...... why is there a memorial for >> Donald Healey in a Redwood Grove? I remember when it was being strongly >> promoted by Oregon club member BillBolton and ultimately dedicated. It >> didn't make sense to me then. I still don't get it. Was there ever any >> personal connection between the Redwoods and Donald that I was not aware of? >> >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:29 PM i erbs via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> [image: image.png] >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> Milwaukie,OR >>> _______ _______ >>> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) >>> (_________________________) >>> BT7 engine and disk brakes >>> >>> >>> 1967 MGB [image: MG] >>> >>> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti >>> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words >>> >>> >>> >>> Virus-free. >>> www.avg.com >>> >>> <#m_1578528384048510435_m_800610417832555254_m_-4935333975427086937_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM David Nock via Healeys < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to >>>> put together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the >>>> topic. Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. >>>> >>>> I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the >>>> year it was dedicated i can then start searching. >>>> >>>> >>>> David Nock >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a >>>> facelift again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the conflagration >>>> but if not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call just as the seed >>>> will sprout again. >>>> P >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for >>>> Windows 10 >>>> >>>> *From: *Henry G Leach via Healeys >>>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM >>>> *To: *'Bob Spidell' >>>> *Cc: *'Healeys' >>>> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >>>> >>>> >>>> Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article >>>> from our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> From: "Bob Spidell" >>>> To: gradea1 at charter.net >>>> Cc: "Healeys" >>>> Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >>>> >>>> I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the >>>> redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. >>>> On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: >>>> >>>> Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of >>>> the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from >>>> the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it >>>> well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. >>>> >>>> Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from >>>> Sempervirens about those: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sad news, Regards, Hank >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Bob Spidell" >>>> To: "Healeys" >>>> Cc: >>>> Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM >>>> Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >>>> >>>> Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it >>>> >>>> survives. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667>>> a=""> /> >>>> >>>> https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130/ /> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net >>>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: >>>> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net >>>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: >>>> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Virus-free. >>> www.avg.com >>> >>> <#m_1578528384048510435_m_800610417832555254_m_-4935333975427086937_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: >>> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Mon Aug 24 11:32:03 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:32:03 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Message-ID: <1ceb4b9bc8fb462917cfea58aed4c2bd03a67760@webmail> I found the photos of the fishing shelter monument in Grants pass. It IS cast in stone! Maybe a more fitting marker for the Big Basin monument? Bill Bolton was responsible for all this effort. This is located in a park in Josephine County and was nice to visit it years ago...most of the people in the park did not know who Geoff Healey was, but they used the shelter anyway. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "i erbs" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "richard mayor", "Healeys" Sent: Monday August 24 2020 10:13:37AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Thanks fot setting the record straight On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 10:00 AM wrote: OK lets get the record straight. First of all, it was Geoff Healey who liked fishing-not Donald. He came to the Oregon meet and stayed with the Boltons and went fishing. The Oregon club dedicated a fishing shed in Grants Pass in honor of Geoff. The DMH Memorial grove was the idea from Dick Santana (SMOG) as he found out that for $10K we could purchase a whole grove for someone. He raised the money and it got done. Then we had a dedication in 1989-just after the meet in Rippling River, OR. Geoff & Margo and John and Joy Healey attended the meet and the dedication. The sign was refurbished and rededicated in 2003. At the same time, another group of Healey enthusiasts; some in AHCPC and some in AHCA and with the support of other regional clubs, started another drive to purchase a stained glass window in the church in Warwick in honor of Donald. That too was accomplished. (at least it was closer to his home) As far as making sense of it all; folks wanted to honor these people in whatever way they could and although Donald never had anything to do with the Big Basin Park, it was a gesture of respect by Healey owners. I too, thought it a bit off the mark, but never-the-less contributed to the grove fund as respect for Donald. Its too bad that the sign was not cast in stone, and if redone, maybe it should, as that is the second monument that we have lost. You can find the original dedication story and photos in the club magazine for July/August 1989 issue. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com [2] -----------------------------------------From: "i erbs via Healeys" To: "richard mayor" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Monday August 24 2020 9:12:12AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove He loved to go fishing there as I recall On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 8:59 AM richard mayor wrote: I don't mean to be disrespectful but ...... why is there a memorial for Donald Healey in a Redwood Grove? I remember when it was being strongly promoted by Oregon club member BillBolton and ultimately dedicated. It didn't make sense to me then. I still don't get it. Was there ever any personal connection between the Redwoods and Donald that I was not aware of? On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:29 PM i erbs via Healeys wrote: Ira ErbsMilwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ ____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words [5] Virus-free. www.avg.com [6] [7] On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM David Nock via Healeys wrote: I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to put together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the topic. Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the year it was dedicated i can then start searching. David Nock On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys wrote: With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a facelift again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the conflagration but if not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call just as the seed will sprout again. P Sent from Mail [10] for Windows 10 FROM: Henry G Leach via Healeys [11] SENT: Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM TO: 'Bob Spidell' [12] CC: 'Healeys' [13] SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article from our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: gradea1 at charter.net [14] Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before.On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net [15] wrote:Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from Sempervirens about those: [16] [17]https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park [18] Sad news, Regards, Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Healeys" Cc: Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it survives. 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I am not aware of anything in Warwick On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 18:00, Henry G Leach via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > OK lets get the record straight. First of all, it was Geoff Healey who > liked fishing-not Donald. He came to the Oregon meet and stayed with the > Boltons and went fishing. The Oregon club dedicated a fishing shed in > Grants Pass in honor of Geoff. > > The DMH Memorial grove was the idea from Dick Santana (SMOG) as he found > out that for $10K we could purchase a whole grove for someone. He raised > the money and it got done. Then we had a dedication in 1989-just after the > meet in Rippling River, OR. Geoff & Margo and John and Joy Healey attended > the meet and the dedication. The sign was refurbished and rededicated in > 2003. > > At the same time, another group of Healey enthusiasts; some in AHCPC and > some in AHCA and with the support of other regional clubs, started another > drive to purchase a stained glass window in the church in Warwick in honor > of Donald. That too was accomplished. (at least it was closer to his home) > > As far as making sense of it all; folks wanted to honor these people in > whatever way they could and although Donald never had anything to do with > the Big Basin Park, it was a gesture of respect by Healey owners. > > I too, thought it a bit off the mark, but never-the-less contributed to > the grove fund as respect for Donald. Its too bad that the sign was not > cast in stone, and if redone, maybe it should, as that is the second > monument that we have lost. > > You can find the original dedication story and photos in the club magazine > for July/August 1989 issue. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "i erbs via Healeys" > To: "richard mayor" > Cc: "Healeys" > Sent: Monday August 24 2020 9:12:12AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove > > He loved to go fishing there as I recall > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 8:59 AM richard mayor wrote: > >> I don't mean to be disrespectful but ...... why is there a memorial for >> Donald Healey in a Redwood Grove? I remember when it was being strongly >> promoted by Oregon club member BillBolton and ultimately dedicated. It >> didn't make sense to me then. I still don't get it. Was there ever any >> personal connection between the Redwoods and Donald that I was not aware of? >> >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:29 PM i erbs via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> [image: image.png] >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> Milwaukie,OR >>> _______ _______ >>> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) >>> (_________________________) >>> BT7 engine and disk brakes >>> >>> >>> 1967 MGB [image: MG] >>> >>> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti >>> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words >>> >>> >>> >>> Virus-free. >>> www.avg.com >>> >>> <#m_7584532775067870063_m_800610417832555254_m_-4935333975427086937_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM David Nock via Healeys < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to >>>> put together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the >>>> topic. Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. >>>> >>>> I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the >>>> year it was dedicated i can then start searching. >>>> >>>> >>>> David Nock >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a >>>> facelift again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the conflagration >>>> but if not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call just as the seed >>>> will sprout again. >>>> P >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for >>>> Windows 10 >>>> >>>> *From: *Henry G Leach via Healeys >>>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM >>>> *To: *'Bob Spidell' >>>> *Cc: *'Healeys' >>>> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >>>> >>>> >>>> Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article >>>> from our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> From: "Bob Spidell" >>>> To: gradea1 at charter.net >>>> Cc: "Healeys" >>>> Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >>>> >>>> I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the >>>> redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. >>>> On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: >>>> >>>> Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of >>>> the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from >>>> the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it >>>> well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. >>>> >>>> Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from >>>> Sempervirens about those: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sad news, Regards, Hank >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Bob Spidell" >>>> To: "Healeys" >>>> Cc: >>>> Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM >>>> Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove >>>> >>>> Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it >>>> >>>> survives. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667>>> a=""> /> >>>> >>>> https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130/ /> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net >>>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: >>>> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net >>>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: >>>> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Virus-free. >>> www.avg.com >>> >>> <#m_7584532775067870063_m_800610417832555254_m_-4935333975427086937_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net >>> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: >>> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com > > -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Mon Aug 24 13:15:11 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 19:15:11 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Message-ID: Hi John-yes, Mell corrected me...it is in Cornwall, not Warwick, and he says its still there with a grille guard over the glass. It is a nice tribute. To bad we lost the monument to Donald in the Big Basin fire. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "John Harper" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "i erbs", "Healeys" Sent: Monday August 24 2020 12:08:24PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove I think that you will find that the stained glass window was in the church in Perranporth where Donald once lived and where Bic lived. I am not aware of anything in Warwick On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 18:00, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: OK lets get the record straight. First of all, it was Geoff Healey who liked fishing-not Donald. He came to the Oregon meet and stayed with the Boltons and went fishing. The Oregon club dedicated a fishing shed in Grants Pass in honor of Geoff. The DMH Memorial grove was the idea from Dick Santana (SMOG) as he found out that for $10K we could purchase a whole grove for someone. He raised the money and it got done. Then we had a dedication in 1989-just after the meet in Rippling River, OR. Geoff & Margo and John and Joy Healey attended the meet and the dedication. The sign was refurbished and rededicated in 2003. At the same time, another group of Healey enthusiasts; some in AHCPC and some in AHCA and with the support of other regional clubs, started another drive to purchase a stained glass window in the church in Warwick in honor of Donald. That too was accomplished. (at least it was closer to his home) As far as making sense of it all; folks wanted to honor these people in whatever way they could and although Donald never had anything to do with the Big Basin Park, it was a gesture of respect by Healey owners. I too, thought it a bit off the mark, but never-the-less contributed to the grove fund as respect for Donald. Its too bad that the sign was not cast in stone, and if redone, maybe it should, as that is the second monument that we have lost. You can find the original dedication story and photos in the club magazine for July/August 1989 issue. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com [2] -----------------------------------------From: "i erbs via Healeys" To: "richard mayor" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Monday August 24 2020 9:12:12AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove He loved to go fishing there as I recall On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 8:59 AM richard mayor wrote: I don't mean to be disrespectful but ...... why is there a memorial for Donald Healey in a Redwood Grove? I remember when it was being strongly promoted by Oregon club member BillBolton and ultimately dedicated. It didn't make sense to me then. I still don't get it. Was there ever any personal connection between the Redwoods and Donald that I was not aware of? On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:29 PM i erbs via Healeys wrote: Ira ErbsMilwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ ____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words [5] Virus-free. www.avg.com [6] [7] On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM David Nock via Healeys wrote: I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to put together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the topic. Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the year it was dedicated i can then start searching. David Nock On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys wrote: With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a facelift again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the conflagration but if not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call just as the seed will sprout again. P Sent from Mail [10] for Windows 10 FROM: Henry G Leach via Healeys [11] SENT: Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM TO: 'Bob Spidell' [12] CC: 'Healeys' [13] SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article from our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: gradea1 at charter.net [14] Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before.On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net [15] wrote:Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from Sempervirens about those: [16] [17]https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park [18] Sad news, Regards, Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Healeys" Cc: Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it survives. 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URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon Aug 24 21:58:10 2020 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 13:58:10 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove In-Reply-To: <1ceb4b9bc8fb462917cfea58aed4c2bd03a67760@webmail> References: <1ceb4b9bc8fb462917cfea58aed4c2bd03a67760@webmail> Message-ID: <012c01d67a93$f34ae000$d9e0a000$@tpg.com.au> Hello While I am well aware of the differences between the DMH Memorial Grove and the fishing shelter I would like to publish something about both in the next Australian Austin-Healey. Would anyone have high resolutions pics of both places that they can send me please? Before/after the fire pics would be perfect. A few words would help too. I would suggest that not many Austin-Healey owners in Australia and New Zealand would be aware of it all. I think they should be. Many thanks Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Henry G Leach via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2020 3:32 AM To: 'i erbs' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove I found the photos of the fishing shelter monument in Grants pass. It IS cast in stone! Maybe a more fitting marker for the Big Basin monument? Bill Bolton was responsible for all this effort. This is located in a park in Josephine County and was nice to visit it years ago...most of the people in the park did not know who Geoff Healey was, but they used the shelter anyway. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "i erbs" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "richard mayor", "Healeys" Sent: Monday August 24 2020 10:13:37AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Thanks fot setting the record straight On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 10:00 AM wrote: OK lets get the record straight. First of all, it was Geoff Healey who liked fishing-not Donald. He came to the Oregon meet and stayed with the Boltons and went fishing. The Oregon club dedicated a fishing shed in Grants Pass in honor of Geoff. The DMH Memorial grove was the idea from Dick Santana (SMOG) as he found out that for $10K we could purchase a whole grove for someone. He raised the money and it got done. Then we had a dedication in 1989-just after the meet in Rippling River, OR. Geoff & Margo and John and Joy Healey attended the meet and the dedication. The sign was refurbished and rededicated in 2003. At the same time, another group of Healey enthusiasts; some in AHCPC and some in AHCA and with the support of other regional clubs, started another drive to purchase a stained glass window in the church in Warwick in honor of Donald. That too was accomplished. (at least it was closer to his home) As far as making sense of it all; folks wanted to honor these people in whatever way they could and although Donald never had anything to do with the Big Basin Park, it was a gesture of respect by Healey owners. I too, thought it a bit off the mark, but never-the-less contributed to the grove fund as respect for Donald. Its too bad that the sign was not cast in stone, and if redone, maybe it should, as that is the second monument that we have lost. You can find the original dedication story and photos in the club magazine for July/August 1989 issue. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com ----------------------------------------- From: "i erbs via Healeys" To: "richard mayor" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Monday August 24 2020 9:12:12AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove He loved to go fishing there as I recall On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 8:59 AM richard mayor wrote: I don't mean to be disrespectful but ...... why is there a memorial for Donald Healey in a Redwood Grove? I remember when it was being strongly promoted by Oregon club member BillBolton and ultimately dedicated. It didn't make sense to me then. I still don't get it. Was there ever any personal connection between the Redwoods and Donald that I was not aware of? On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:29 PM i erbs via Healeys wrote: image.png Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB MG A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words Virus-free. www.avg.com On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM David Nock via Healeys wrote: I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to put together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the topic. Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the year it was dedicated i can then start searching. David Nock On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys wrote: With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a facelift again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the conflagration but if not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call just as the seed will sprout again. P Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Henry G Leach via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM To: 'Bob Spidell' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article from our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net wrote: Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from Sempervirens about those: https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park Sad news, Regards, Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Healeys" Cc: Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it survives. https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667 /> https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130/ /> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avg.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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While I am well aware of the differences between the DMH Memorial Grove and the fishing shelter I would like to publish something about both in the next Australian Austin-Healey. ? Would anyone have high resolutions pics of both places that they can send me please? Before/after the fire pics would be perfect. A few words would help too. ? I would suggest that not many Austin-Healey owners in Australia and New Zealand would be aware of it all. I think they should be. ? Many thanks ? Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia ? From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Henry G Leach via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2020 3:32 AM To: 'i erbs' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove ? I found the photos of the fishing shelter monument in Grants pass.? It IS cast in stone! Maybe a more fitting marker for the Big Basin monument? Bill Bolton was responsible for all this effort. This is located in a park in Josephine County and was nice to visit it years ago...most of the people in the park did not know who Geoff Healey was, but they used the shelter anyway.? Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "i erbs" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "richard mayor", "Healeys" Sent: Monday August 24 2020 10:13:37AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Thanks fot setting the record straight? ? On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 10:00 AM wrote: OK lets get the record straight. First of all, it was Geoff Healey who liked fishing-not Donald. He came to the Oregon meet and stayed with the Boltons and went fishing.? The Oregon club dedicated a fishing shed in Grants Pass in honor of Geoff. ? The DMH Memorial grove was the idea from Dick Santana (SMOG) as he found out that for $10K we could purchase a whole grove for someone. He raised the money and it got done.? Then we had a dedication in 1989-just after the meet in Rippling River, OR.? Geoff & Margo and John and Joy Healey attended the meet and the dedication. The sign was refurbished and rededicated in 2003. ? At the same time, another group of Healey enthusiasts; some in AHCPC and some in AHCA and with the support of other regional clubs, started another drive to purchase a stained glass window in the church in Warwick in honor of Donald. That too was accomplished. (at least it was closer to his home) ? As far as making sense of it all; folks wanted to honor these people in whatever way they could and although Donald never had anything to do with the Big Basin Park, it was a gesture of respect by Healey owners. ? I too, thought it a bit off the mark, but never-the-less contributed to the grove fund as respect for Donald.? Its too bad that the sign was not cast in stone, and if redone, maybe it should, as that is the second monument that we have lost.? ? You can find the original dedication story and photos in the club magazine for July/August 1989 issue. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com ----------------------------------------- From: "i erbs via Healeys" To: "richard mayor" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Monday August 24 2020 9:12:12AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove He loved to go fishing there as I recall ? On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 8:59 AM richard mayor wrote: I don't mean to be disrespectful but ...... why is there a memorial for Donald Healey in a Redwood Grove?? I remember when it was being strongly promoted by Oregon club member BillBolton and ultimately dedicated.? It didn't make sense to me then. I still don't get it.? Was there ever any personal connection between the Redwoods and Donald that I was not aware of? ? On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:29 PM i erbs via Healeys wrote: Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR ? ? ? _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______ ? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) ? ? ? ?? (_________________________) ? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes ? ? 1967 MGB ? ? A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words ? ? | | Virus-free. www.avg.com | ? On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM David Nock via Healeys wrote: I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to put together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the topic. Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. ? I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the year it was dedicated i can then start searching. ? ? David Nock ? On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys wrote: ? With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a facelift again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the conflagration but if not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call just as the seed will sprout again.? P ? Sent from?Mail?for Windows 10 ? From:?Henry G Leach via Healeys Sent:?Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM To:?'Bob Spidell' Cc:?'Healeys' Subject:?Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove ? Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article from our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell"? To:?gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM,?gradea1 at charter.net?wrote: Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal.? Here is an article from the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3.? ? Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from Sempervirens about those: ? https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park ? ? ?Sad news, Regards, Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell"? To: "Healeys" Cc:? Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it? survives. https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Big-Basin-wildfire-CZU-Complex-headquarters-park-15497175.php#photo-19847667 />? https://mapio.net/pic/p-49759130/ /> _______________________________________________ ? ? _______________________________________________ Support?Team.Net?http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 Archive:?http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys?http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com ? | | Virus-free. www.avg.com | _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 25 23:23:41 2020 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 22:23:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo angle drive, BJ8. In-Reply-To: <396980617.9235106.1598415127022@mail.yahoo.com> References: <396980617.9235106.1598415127022.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <396980617.9235106.1598415127022@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001d67b69$10271e70$30755b50$@sbcglobal.net> I have rebuilt them many times and have never needed to replace the core plugs. They are dimpled in place and when you remove the dimple the core plug comes out and you just reinstall the core plug and dimple it back in. I also have never worked on one that is seized. The angle drives I have rebuilt only needed to have the internal flexible cable replaced. I have used an old speedo cable and shape the ends to fit with a grinder. From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lodge via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:12 PM To: Austin Healey Cc: David Lodge Subject: [Healeys] Speedo angle drive, BJ8. It's completely seized and three weeks completely submerged in penetrating oil has had not one whit of effect so I'm going to take it apart. Does anyone know where I could lay hands on new sub-miniature core plugs, please? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Wed Aug 26 06:51:51 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 12:51:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Message-ID: Yes, this is sad. Just ask Steven Kingsbury when he lost #598 in Paradise fire. I'm sure there have been many other losses. If I had been still living in Bonny Doon, where we did, my cars may have perished as well. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "David Lodge" To: "gradea1 at charter.net", "healeys at autox.team.net", "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" Cc: Sent: Tuesday August 25 2020 9:22:58PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove It sometimes crosses my mind how many great old cars undergoing restoration have been lost to wildfires in the past few years. On Monday, 24 August 2020, 20:59:21 GMT-7, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: Hello While I am well aware of the differences between the DMH Memorial Grove and the fishing shelter I would like to publish something about both in the next Australian Austin-Healey. Would anyone have high resolutions pics of both places that they can send me please? Before/after the fire pics would be perfect. A few words would help too. I would suggest that not many Austin-Healey owners in Australia and New Zealand would be aware of it all. I think they should be. Many thanks Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia FROM: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] ON BEHALF OF Henry G Leach via Healeys SENT: Tuesday, 25 August 2020 3:32 AM TO: 'i erbs' CC: 'Healeys' SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove I found the photos of the fishing shelter monument in Grants pass. It IS cast in stone! Maybe a more fitting marker for the Big Basin monument? Bill Bolton was responsible for all this effort. This is located in a park in Josephine County and was nice to visit it years ago...most of the people in the park did not know who Geoff Healey was, but they used the shelter anyway. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "i erbs" To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: "richard mayor", "Healeys" Sent: Monday August 24 2020 10:13:37AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Thanks fot setting the record straight On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 10:00 AM wrote: OK lets get the record straight. First of all, it was Geoff Healey who liked fishing-not Donald. He came to the Oregon meet and stayed with the Boltons and went fishing. The Oregon club dedicated a fishing shed in Grants Pass in honor of Geoff. The DMH Memorial grove was the idea from Dick Santana (SMOG) as he found out that for $10K we could purchase a whole grove for someone. He raised the money and it got done. Then we had a dedication in 1989-just after the meet in Rippling River, OR. Geoff & Margo and John and Joy Healey attended the meet and the dedication. The sign was refurbished and rededicated in 2003. At the same time, another group of Healey enthusiasts; some in AHCPC and some in AHCA and with the support of other regional clubs, started another drive to purchase a stained glass window in the church in Warwick in honor of Donald. That too was accomplished. (at least it was closer to his home) As far as making sense of it all; folks wanted to honor these people in whatever way they could and although Donald never had anything to do with the Big Basin Park, it was a gesture of respect by Healey owners. I too, thought it a bit off the mark, but never-the-less contributed to the grove fund as respect for Donald. Its too bad that the sign was not cast in stone, and if redone, maybe it should, as that is the second monument that we have lost. You can find the original dedication story and photos in the club magazine for July/August 1989 issue. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com [2] ----------------------------------------- From: "i erbs via Healeys" To: "richard mayor" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Monday August 24 2020 9:12:12AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove He loved to go fishing there as I recall On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 8:59 AM richard mayor wrote: I don't mean to be disrespectful but ...... why is there a memorial for Donald Healey in a Redwood Grove? I remember when it was being strongly promoted by Oregon club member BillBolton and ultimately dedicated. It didn't make sense to me then. I still don't get it. Was there ever any personal connection between the Redwoods and Donald that I was not aware of? On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:29 PM i erbs via Healeys wrote: Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ ____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words [5] Virus-free. www.avg.com [6] On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM David Nock via Healeys wrote: I am looking for some photos of the original DMH Grove sign. I have to put together my column for our newsletter. And figured this may be the topic. Then maybe we can put a fund together to replace it. I have all the past Healey Highlights so if someone can tell me the year it was dedicated i can then start searching. David Nock On Aug 22, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Perry via Healeys wrote: With 17 years in the woods I suspect that the sign was due for a facelift again. Hopefully it and the trees made it though the conflagration but if not I?m sure the faithful well rise to the call just as the seed will sprout again. P Sent from Mail [9] for Windows 10 FROM: Henry G Leach via Healeys [10] SENT: Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:24 PM TO: 'Bob Spidell' [11] CC: 'Healeys' [12] SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Can't seem to get my email to send this out but this is the article from our last restoration-hopefully it will send. Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: gradea1 at charter.net [13] Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 8:00:11AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove I was afraid of that. The sign can be replaced, we will never see the redwoods again--if they are gone--but some have seen fire before. On 8/21/2020 10:57 PM, gradea1 at charter.net [14] wrote: Bob- Don't think the wood sign faired to well in the firestorm. Most of the plaques on the back were plastic-few metal. Here is an article from the last rebuild...maybe someone could rebuild it again. I remember it well, and we had reunions there on Donald's birthday, July 3. Many other dedicated groves were also lost. Here is a note from Sempervirens about those: [15]https://sempervirens.org/wildfires-in-big-basin-redwoods-state-park [16] Sad news, Regards, Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Healeys" Cc: Sent: Friday August 21 2020 8:09:42PM Subject: [Healeys] Donald M Healey Memorial Redwood Grove Compared to the losses suffered by some, this is trivial, but I hope it survives. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ulla The A90 Atlantic 2.6 litre 4 cylinder is basically the same. The only difference is that the A-H has a 2 bolt distributor fitting whereas the A90 has one. This however is a bit of a simplification because there was a small amount of overlap with early 100 having blocks with only one fixing bolt and very late A90s having two. To make this more complicated if it were BMC Gold seal replacement engines. These could be delivered with either one bolt or two. It is possible to fit a A-H distributor to a single bolt version but the mounting plate has to be from an A90. All other 2.2 and 2.5 litre blocks have different bores so this can be measured fairly easily. Another point is that later blocks had different fittings such as the push rods. Another possible different version was from a diesel block as fitted to London Taxis etc. On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:21, Ulla &Sven Ordell via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Friends ! > > > > A mate has asked me for help. He has been offered what appears to be a NOS > 100/4 block, nice, but two questions has come up. > > 1 How do I tell if it is a genuine 100/4 block or one from any other > Austin/BMC with the same basic engine, and 2 any guidance on price tag? > > Any guidance thankfully accepted. > > > > Best regards > > Sven > > Ex BJ8 now ?only? MMM M.G.s > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com > > -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyray at yahoo.com Wed Aug 26 14:18:16 2020 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1290517642.8112471.1598473096156@mail.yahoo.com> If it is the diesel block it will have the heavy duty crank shaft a valuable part by itself if I remember correctly. On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:55:38 AM PDT, John Harper via Healeys wrote: Ulla The A90 Atlantic 2.6 litre 4 cylinder is basically the same. The only difference?is that the A-H has a 2 bolt distributor fitting whereas?the A90 has one. This however is a bit of a simplification because there was a small amount?of overlap with early 100 having blocks with only one fixing bolt and very late A90s having two. To make this more complicated if it?were BMC Gold seal replacement engines. These could be delivered with either one bolt or two. It is possible to fit a A-H distributor to a single bolt version but the mounting plate has to be from an A90. All other 2.2 and 2.5 litre blocks have different?bores so this can be measured?fairly easily. Another point is that later blocks had different?fittings such as the push rods. Another possible different?version was from a diesel?block as fitted to London Taxis etc. On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:21, Ulla &Sven Ordell via Healeys wrote: Friends ! ? A mate has asked me for help. He has been offered what appears to be a NOS 100/4 block, nice, but two questions has come up. 1 How do I tell if it is a genuine 100/4 block or one from any other Austin/BMC with the same basic engine, and 2 any guidance on price tag? Any guidance thankfully accepted. ? Best regards Sven Ex BJ8 now ?only? 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URL: From healeydoc at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 15:15:58 2020 From: healeydoc at gmail.com (David Nock) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 14:15:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? In-Reply-To: <1290517642.8112471.1598473096156@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1290517642.8112471.1598473096156@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BB5F82ADD114FA08C1342DAC6C5EFD4@DavidNockHP> I have a diesel motor here stripped. I thought that they were the same but the timing chain is a triple link chain so the snout on the front of the crank is about 1? longer than the gas motors. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Ray Juncal via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:18 PM To: Ulla &Sven Ordell ; John Harper Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? If it is the diesel block it will have the heavy duty crank shaft a valuable part by itself if I remember correctly. On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:55:38 AM PDT, John Harper via Healeys wrote: Ulla The A90 Atlantic 2.6 litre 4 cylinder is basically the same. The only difference is that the A-H has a 2 bolt distributor fitting whereas the A90 has one. This however is a bit of a simplification because there was a small amount of overlap with early 100 having blocks with only one fixing bolt and very late A90s having two. To make this more complicated if it were BMC Gold seal replacement engines. These could be delivered with either one bolt or two. It is possible to fit a A-H distributor to a single bolt version but the mounting plate has to be from an A90. All other 2.2 and 2.5 litre blocks have different bores so this can be measured fairly easily. Another point is that later blocks had different fittings such as the push rods. Another possible different version was from a diesel block as fitted to London Taxis etc. On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:21, Ulla &Sven Ordell via Healeys wrote: Friends ! A mate has asked me for help. He has been offered what appears to be a NOS 100/4 block, nice, but two questions has come up. 1 How do I tell if it is a genuine 100/4 block or one from any other Austin/BMC with the same basic engine, and 2 any guidance on price tag? Any guidance thankfully accepted. Best regards Sven Ex BJ8 now ?only? 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URL: From emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk Wed Aug 26 18:02:54 2020 From: emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk (David Lodge) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 00:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Speedo angle drive, BJ8. In-Reply-To: <000001d67b69$10271e70$30755b50$@sbcglobal.net> References: <396980617.9235106.1598415127022.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <396980617.9235106.1598415127022@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d67b69$10271e70$30755b50$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1493383160.10068600.1598486574369@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you, John. I noticed the dimples of course, but my experience of core plugs is limited to those for water passages and casting apertures which are normally destroyed during removal. Project for the week-end.? I will photograph anything interesting. On Tuesday, 25 August 2020, 22:24:43 GMT-7, John Spaur via Healeys wrote: #yiv1480099271 #yiv1480099271 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv1480099271 #yiv1480099271 p.yiv1480099271MsoNormal, #yiv1480099271 li.yiv1480099271MsoNormal, #yiv1480099271 div.yiv1480099271MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv1480099271 a:link, #yiv1480099271 span.yiv1480099271MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1480099271 a:visited, #yiv1480099271 span.yiv1480099271MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1480099271 span.yiv1480099271EmailStyle17 {font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv1480099271 .yiv1480099271MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv1480099271 div.yiv1480099271WordSection1 {}#yiv1480099271 I have rebuilt them many times and have never needed to replace the core plugs. They are dimpled in place and when you remove the dimple the core plug comes out and you just reinstall the core plug and dimple it back in. I also have never worked on one that is seized. The angle drives I have rebuilt only needed to have the internal flexible cable replaced. I have used an old speedo cable and shape the ends to fit with a grinder. ? From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lodge via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:12 PM To: Austin Healey Cc: David Lodge Subject: [Healeys] Speedo angle drive, BJ8. ? It's completely seized and three weeks completely submerged in penetrating oil has had not one whit of effect so I'm going to take it apart.? Does anyone know where I could lay hands on new sub-miniature core plugs, please? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 15:45:05 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 17:45:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? In-Reply-To: <4BB5F82ADD114FA08C1342DAC6C5EFD4@DavidNockHP> References: <1290517642.8112471.1598473096156@mail.yahoo.com> <4BB5F82ADD114FA08C1342DAC6C5EFD4@DavidNockHP> Message-ID: Thats weird David. I have an NOS Diesel crank here (2.25 big ends) and the nose is the same length as a 100 crank. Maybe different versions? On Wed., Aug. 26, 2020, 5:16 p.m. David Nock via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I have a diesel motor here stripped. I thought that they were the same but > the timing chain is a triple link chain so the snout on the front of the > crank is about 1? longer than the gas motors. > > > David Nock > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > 209 948 8767 > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the > British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites > by visiting the site at. > www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org > > *From:* Ray Juncal via Healeys > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:18 PM > *To:* Ulla &Sven Ordell ; John Harper > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? > > If it is the diesel block it will have the heavy duty crank shaft a > valuable part by itself if I remember correctly. > > On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:55:38 AM PDT, John Harper via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Ulla > > The A90 Atlantic 2.6 litre 4 cylinder is basically the same. The only > difference is that the A-H has a 2 bolt distributor fitting whereas the A90 > has one. This however is a bit of a simplification because there was a > small amount of overlap with early 100 having blocks with only one fixing > bolt and very late A90s having two. To make this more complicated if it > were BMC Gold seal replacement engines. These could be delivered with > either one bolt or two. It is possible to fit a A-H distributor to a single > bolt version but the mounting plate has to be from an A90. > > All other 2.2 and 2.5 litre blocks have different bores so this can be > measured fairly easily. Another point is that later blocks had different > fittings such as the push rods. > > Another possible different version was from a diesel block as fitted to > London Taxis etc. > > On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:21, Ulla &Sven Ordell via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Friends ! > > > > A mate has asked me for help. He has been offered what appears to be a NOS > 100/4 block, nice, but two questions has come up. > > 1 How do I tell if it is a genuine 100/4 block or one from any other > Austin/BMC with the same basic engine, and 2 any guidance on price tag? > > Any guidance thankfully accepted. > > > > Best regards > > Sven > > Ex BJ8 now ?only? MMM M.G.s > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com > > > > -- > Best wishes > > John Harper > > AHC UK 100 Register Secretary > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Will have to take a closer look at the crankshaft David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Michael Salter Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 2:45 PM To: David Nock Cc: Ray Juncal ; Ulla &Sven Ordell ; John Harper ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? Thats weird David. I have an NOS Diesel crank here (2.25 big ends) and the nose is the same length as a 100 crank. Maybe different versions? On Wed., Aug. 26, 2020, 5:16 p.m. David Nock via Healeys, wrote: I have a diesel motor here stripped. I thought that they were the same but the timing chain is a triple link chain so the snout on the front of the crank is about 1? longer than the gas motors. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Ray Juncal via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:18 PM To: Ulla &Sven Ordell ; John Harper Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? If it is the diesel block it will have the heavy duty crank shaft a valuable part by itself if I remember correctly. On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:55:38 AM PDT, John Harper via Healeys wrote: Ulla The A90 Atlantic 2.6 litre 4 cylinder is basically the same. The only difference is that the A-H has a 2 bolt distributor fitting whereas the A90 has one. This however is a bit of a simplification because there was a small amount of overlap with early 100 having blocks with only one fixing bolt and very late A90s having two. To make this more complicated if it were BMC Gold seal replacement engines. These could be delivered with either one bolt or two. It is possible to fit a A-H distributor to a single bolt version but the mounting plate has to be from an A90. All other 2.2 and 2.5 litre blocks have different bores so this can be measured fairly easily. Another point is that later blocks had different fittings such as the push rods. Another possible different version was from a diesel block as fitted to London Taxis etc. On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:21, Ulla &Sven Ordell via Healeys wrote: Friends ! A mate has asked me for help. He has been offered what appears to be a NOS 100/4 block, nice, but two questions has come up. 1 How do I tell if it is a genuine 100/4 block or one from any other Austin/BMC with the same basic engine, and 2 any guidance on price tag? Any guidance thankfully accepted. Best regards Sven Ex BJ8 now ?only? MMM M.G.s _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Wed Aug 26 17:26:07 2020 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (greylinn at ozemail.com.au) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 09:26:07 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? In-Reply-To: <4BB5F82ADD114FA08C1342DAC6C5EFD4@DavidNockHP> References: <1290517642.8112471.1598473096156@mail.yahoo.com> <4BB5F82ADD114FA08C1342DAC6C5EFD4@DavidNockHP> Message-ID: <00bf01d67c00$47812ae0$d68380a0$@ozemail.com.au> John Chatham built a 100 rally car using a diesel block. Shorter stroke so higher revving, but a lot of modification need to make a petrol motor out of it (not least a distributor!) http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/chatham.html Peter Linn Brisbane 100 BN1 Holden (Buick) V6 From: Healeys On Behalf Of David Nock via Healeys Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2020 7:16 AM To: Ray Juncal ; Ulla &Sven Ordell ; John Harper Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? I have a diesel motor here stripped. I thought that they were the same but the timing chain is a triple link chain so the snout on the front of the crank is about 1? longer than the gas motors. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Ray Juncal via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:18 PM To: Ulla &Sven Ordell ; John Harper Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? If it is the diesel block it will have the heavy duty crank shaft a valuable part by itself if I remember correctly. On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:55:38 AM PDT, John Harper via Healeys > wrote: Ulla The A90 Atlantic 2.6 litre 4 cylinder is basically the same. The only difference is that the A-H has a 2 bolt distributor fitting whereas the A90 has one. This however is a bit of a simplification because there was a small amount of overlap with early 100 having blocks with only one fixing bolt and very late A90s having two. To make this more complicated if it were BMC Gold seal replacement engines. These could be delivered with either one bolt or two. It is possible to fit a A-H distributor to a single bolt version but the mounting plate has to be from an A90. All other 2.2 and 2.5 litre blocks have different bores so this can be measured fairly easily. Another point is that later blocks had different fittings such as the push rods. Another possible different version was from a diesel block as fitted to London Taxis etc. On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:21, Ulla &Sven Ordell via Healeys > wrote: Friends ! A mate has asked me for help. He has been offered what appears to be a NOS 100/4 block, nice, but two questions has come up. 1 How do I tell if it is a genuine 100/4 block or one from any other Austin/BMC with the same basic engine, and 2 any guidance on price tag? Any guidance thankfully accepted. Best regards Sven Ex BJ8 now ?only? 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URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 08:12:40 2020 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:12:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? In-Reply-To: <4BB5F82ADD114FA08C1342DAC6C5EFD4@DavidNockHP> References: <1290517642.8112471.1598473096156@mail.yahoo.com> <4BB5F82ADD114FA08C1342DAC6C5EFD4@DavidNockHP> Message-ID: Michael Salter uses a taxi block on the car in which we did the Targa Newfoundland, not only because of the stronger crank but because it put us in an under 2.5-litre group in which it was easier to be competitive. Notwithstanding the lower displacement the car was plenty fast! Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 5:16 PM David Nock via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I have a diesel motor here stripped. I thought that they were the same but > the timing chain is a triple link chain so the snout on the front of the > crank is about 1? longer than the gas motors. > > > David Nock > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > 209 948 8767 > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the > British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites > by visiting the site at. > www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org > > *From:* Ray Juncal via Healeys > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:18 PM > *To:* Ulla &Sven Ordell ; John Harper > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? > > If it is the diesel block it will have the heavy duty crank shaft a > valuable part by itself if I remember correctly. > > On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:55:38 AM PDT, John Harper via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Ulla > > The A90 Atlantic 2.6 litre 4 cylinder is basically the same. The only > difference is that the A-H has a 2 bolt distributor fitting whereas the A90 > has one. This however is a bit of a simplification because there was a > small amount of overlap with early 100 having blocks with only one fixing > bolt and very late A90s having two. To make this more complicated if it > were BMC Gold seal replacement engines. These could be delivered with > either one bolt or two. It is possible to fit a A-H distributor to a single > bolt version but the mounting plate has to be from an A90. > > All other 2.2 and 2.5 litre blocks have different bores so this can be > measured fairly easily. Another point is that later blocks had different > fittings such as the push rods. > > Another possible different version was from a diesel block as fitted to > London Taxis etc. > > On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:21, Ulla &Sven Ordell via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Friends ! > > > > A mate has asked me for help. He has been offered what appears to be a NOS > 100/4 block, nice, but two questions has come up. > > 1 How do I tell if it is a genuine 100/4 block or one from any other > Austin/BMC with the same basic engine, and 2 any guidance on price tag? > > Any guidance thankfully accepted. > > > > Best regards > > Sven > > Ex BJ8 now ?only? 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URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 11:54:26 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:54:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? In-Reply-To: References: <1290517642.8112471.1598473096156@mail.yahoo.com> <4BB5F82ADD114FA08C1342DAC6C5EFD4@DavidNockHP> Message-ID: Actually AHX12 ourTarga Newfoundland car used a 100 block with an FX3 Taxi crank. Certainly was, and still is, a fun car to drive. You can read about the engine build here M On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 1:47 PM Michael Oritt via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Michael Salter uses a taxi block on the car in which we did the Targa > Newfoundland, not only because of the stronger crank but because it put us > in an under 2.5-litre group in which it was easier to be competitive. > Notwithstanding the lower displacement the car was plenty fast! > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 5:16 PM David Nock via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I have a diesel motor here stripped. I thought that they were the same >> but the timing chain is a triple link chain so the snout on the front of >> the crank is about 1? longer than the gas motors. >> >> >> David Nock >> healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >> 209 948 8767 >> www.britishcarspecialists.com >> >> Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the >> British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites >> by visiting the site at. >> www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org >> >> *From:* Ray Juncal via Healeys >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:18 PM >> *To:* Ulla &Sven Ordell ; John Harper >> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? >> >> If it is the diesel block it will have the heavy duty crank shaft a >> valuable part by itself if I remember correctly. >> >> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:55:38 AM PDT, John Harper via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Ulla >> >> The A90 Atlantic 2.6 litre 4 cylinder is basically the same. The only >> difference is that the A-H has a 2 bolt distributor fitting whereas the A90 >> has one. This however is a bit of a simplification because there was a >> small amount of overlap with early 100 having blocks with only one fixing >> bolt and very late A90s having two. To make this more complicated if it >> were BMC Gold seal replacement engines. These could be delivered with >> either one bolt or two. It is possible to fit a A-H distributor to a single >> bolt version but the mounting plate has to be from an A90. >> >> All other 2.2 and 2.5 litre blocks have different bores so this can be >> measured fairly easily. Another point is that later blocks had different >> fittings such as the push rods. >> >> Another possible different version was from a diesel block as fitted to >> London Taxis etc. >> >> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:21, Ulla &Sven Ordell via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Friends ! >> >> >> >> A mate has asked me for help. He has been offered what appears to be a >> NOS 100/4 block, nice, but two questions has come up. >> >> 1 How do I tell if it is a genuine 100/4 block or one from any other >> Austin/BMC with the same basic engine, and 2 any guidance on price tag? >> >> Any guidance thankfully accepted. >> >> >> >> Best regards >> >> Sven >> >> Ex BJ8 now ?only? MMM M.G.s >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Best wishes >> >> John Harper >> >> AHC UK 100 Register Secretary >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bispmotala at hotmail.com Fri Aug 28 01:22:02 2020 From: Bispmotala at hotmail.com (Ulla &Sven Ordell) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 07:22:02 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] VB: NOS 100/4 block? In-Reply-To: References: <1290517642.8112471.1598473096156@mail.yahoo.com> <4BB5F82ADD114FA08C1342DAC6C5EFD4@DavidNockHP> Message-ID: Many thanks to everybody who answered my query, we now have some data to work from Best regards Sven Ex BJ8 now ?only? MMM M.G.s Fr?n: Healeys > F?r Michael Salter via Healeys Skickat: den 27 augusti 2020 19:54 Till: Michael Oritt > Kopia: Austin Healey > ?mne: Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? Actually AHX12 ourTarga Newfoundland car used a 100 block with an FX3 Taxi crank. Certainly was, and still is, a fun car to drive. You can read about the engine build here M On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 1:47 PM Michael Oritt via Healeys > wrote: Michael Salter uses a taxi block on the car in which we did the Targa Newfoundland, not only because of the stronger crank but because it put us in an under 2.5-litre group in which it was easier to be competitive. Notwithstanding the lower displacement the car was plenty fast! Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 5:16 PM David Nock via Healeys > wrote: I have a diesel motor here stripped. I thought that they were the same but the timing chain is a triple link chain so the snout on the front of the crank is about 1? longer than the gas motors. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Ray Juncal via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:18 PM To: Ulla &Sven Ordell ; John Harper Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block? If it is the diesel block it will have the heavy duty crank shaft a valuable part by itself if I remember correctly. On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:55:38 AM PDT, John Harper via Healeys > wrote: Ulla The A90 Atlantic 2.6 litre 4 cylinder is basically the same. The only difference is that the A-H has a 2 bolt distributor fitting whereas the A90 has one. This however is a bit of a simplification because there was a small amount of overlap with early 100 having blocks with only one fixing bolt and very late A90s having two. To make this more complicated if it were BMC Gold seal replacement engines. These could be delivered with either one bolt or two. It is possible to fit a A-H distributor to a single bolt version but the mounting plate has to be from an A90. All other 2.2 and 2.5 litre blocks have different bores so this can be measured fairly easily. Another point is that later blocks had different fittings such as the push rods. Another possible different version was from a diesel block as fitted to London Taxis etc. On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:21, Ulla &Sven Ordell via Healeys > wrote: Friends ! A mate has asked me for help. He has been offered what appears to be a NOS 100/4 block, nice, but two questions has come up. 1 How do I tell if it is a genuine 100/4 block or one from any other Austin/BMC with the same basic engine, and 2 any guidance on price tag? Any guidance thankfully accepted. Best regards Sven Ex BJ8 now ?only? 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Message-ID: From healeyguy at aol.com Fri Aug 28 13:21:34 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 15:21:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Don't know if it was announced, but Kent Lacy died earlier this week in his sleep. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Jim. Another long timer has past.. Rest in peace Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jim Cox via Healeys Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 2:25 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Don't know if it was announced,but Kent Lacy died earlier this week in his sleep. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frogeye at porterscustom.com Fri Aug 28 13:30:44 2020 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 13:30:44 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Don't know if it was announced, but Kent Lacy died earlier this week in his sleep. In-Reply-To: <20200828192205.617E4A14EA@autox.team.net> References: <20200828192205.617E4A14EA@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <858963cb-eb20-21e3-7139-e750abf97892@porterscustom.com> sad... On 8/28/2020 1:21 PM, Perry via Healeys wrote: > > Thanks Jim. Another long timer has past.. Rest in peace > > Perry > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *Jim Cox via Healeys > *Sent: *Friday, August 28, 2020 2:25 PM > *To: *healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *[Healeys] Don't know if it was announced,but Kent Lacy died > earlier this week in his sleep. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com > -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rest in peace > > Perry > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Jim Cox via Healeys > *Sent: *Friday, August 28, 2020 2:25 PM > *To: *healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *[Healeys] Don't know if it was announced,but Kent Lacy died > earlier this week in his sleep. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com > > -- > Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sentenac.rw at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rick Neville On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 2:26 PM Jim Cox via Healeys wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Aug 28 19:43:08 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 18:43:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Don't know if it was announced, but Kent Lacy died earlier this week in his sleep. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <590a6018-42ab-735e-92c4-cb846c0dcf5c@comcast.net> I never met him, but he helped me out a couple times. I think he was our resident '100M' guru, no? Was he the one with the beautiful Florida Green/OEW car? On 8/28/2020 5:31 PM, HealeyRick via Healeys wrote: > Oh no.? He was such a tremendous help to me in building my Nasty Boy.? > Frankly, I don't think I could have done it without his help.? ?We've > stayed in touch ever since and talked not long ago.? What a nice guy. > He'll be missed. > > Rick Neville > From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Aug 29 00:39:00 2020 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 08:39:00 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> Message-ID: <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> A drop of oil? now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball sockets are nylon/plastic. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: >> Is it recommended to lube the throttle ball & socket joints or to >> leave them dry? >> I assume the same recommendation applies to both the steel type on 6 >> Cyl. cars & brass type on 100's. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: Inkedrear deck_LI.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1610174 bytes Desc: not available URL: From warthodson at aol.com Sat Aug 29 06:58:18 2020 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> Message-ID: <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles.Does anyone agree with this? Gary Hodson? -----Original Message----- From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys A drop of oil? now and then is a good idea on any car bar when? ball sockets are nylon/plastic. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From schottc at knology.net Sat Aug 29 07:27:54 2020 From: schottc at knology.net (Charles Schott) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 09:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Rebuilt O/D Unit In-Reply-To: <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1785289470.5926641.1598707674825.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net> Would someone please tell me who in the states sells rebuilt O/D units for a BT7? Thanks. Regards, Charlie ----- Original Message ----- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc at knology.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Aug 29 07:30:00 2020 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:30:00 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled grit/dust. I would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 you may rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem is: WD40 lubricant does not last very long. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: > I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of > lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) > decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the > unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would > suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & > hold the abrasive particles. > Does anyone agree with this? > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > > > A drop of oil? now and then is a good idea on any car bar when? ball > sockets are nylon/plastic. > Kees Oudesluijs > > > Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Aug 29 07:39:58 2020 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (Max Byers) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 09:39:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008f01d67e09$e3cc49b0$ab64dd10$@rr.com> O.K., I?ll provide a 4th response. I separate and clean the ball joints/sockets once a year during maintenance in preparation for the new season and re-lubricate them with white lithium grease. Enough of the grease squeezes out to block the entry of dirt and water until the next time. I?m still using the same joints that came to me with the car 36 years ago. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:58 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. Does anyone agree with this? Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball sockets are nylon/plastic. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sat Aug 29 07:51:09 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 09:51:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, I'm not sure that attempting to grinding valve seats with dry carborundum grit would be very effective. Just sayin' M On Sat., Aug. 29, 2020, 9:33 a.m. Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled grit/dust. I > would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 you may > rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem is: WD40 > lubricant does not last very long. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: > > I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. > I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. > Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage > ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to > not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. > Does anyone agree with this? > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > > > > A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball > sockets are nylon/plastic. > Kees Oudesluijs > > > Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Aug 29 08:36:41 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 07:36:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rebuilt O/D Unit In-Reply-To: <1785289470.5926641.1598707674825.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> <1785289470.5926641.1598707674825.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net> Message-ID: Try: https://www.quantumechanics.com/ //I have no experience with them, and their website hasn't been updated in ages but AFAIK they're still in business. Bob On 8/29/2020 6:27 AM, Charles Schott via Healeys wrote: > Would someone please tell me who in the states sells rebuilt O/D units > for a BT7? Thanks. > > Regards, > > Charlie > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Aug 29 09:01:38 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 08:01:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <008f01d67e09$e3cc49b0$ab64dd10$@rr.com> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> <008f01d67e09$e3cc49b0$ab64dd10$@rr.com> Message-ID: Wow! That's going the extra parsec. I looked mine over when I reinstalled the engine at 208K miles, and they were fine. I replaced one, but it wasn't because of wear; I managed to screw something up. I put a little grease in the sockets, but that was the first time. What really wears is the throttle cross-shaft bushes (brass/rubber; brass was OK, rubber was shot); the new nylon/teflon--I've seen them called both--replacements designed by Eric Grunden are da bomb. On 8/29/2020 6:39 AM, Max Byers via Healeys wrote: > > O.K., I?ll provide a 4^th response. > > I separate and clean the ball joints/sockets once a year during > maintenance in preparation for the new season and re-lubricate them > with white lithium grease.? ??Enough of the grease squeezes out to > block the entry of dirt and water until the next time.? I?m still > using the same joints that came to me with the car 36 years ago. > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC? USA > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of > *warthodson--- via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:58 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication > > I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of > lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) > decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the > unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would > suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & > hold the abrasive particles. > > Does anyone agree with this? > > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > > A drop of oil? now and then is a good idea on any car bar when? ball > sockets are nylon/plastic. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From warthodson at aol.com Sat Aug 29 09:10:34 2020 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:10:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Rebuilt O/D Unit In-Reply-To: References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> <1785289470.5926641.1598707674825.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net> Message-ID: <226137957.137052.1598713834238@mail.yahoo.com> Quantum Mechanics rebuilt my OD & transmission. I am very happy with the results. That was probably 8 years ago.?Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Bob Spidell via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Aug 29, 2020 9:36 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rebuilt O/D Unit Try: https://www.quantumechanics.com/ I have no experience with them, and their website hasn't been updated in ages but AFAIK they're still in business. Bob On 8/29/2020 6:27 AM, Charles Schott via Healeys wrote: Would someone please tell me who in the states sells rebuilt O/D units for a BT7? Thanks. Regards, Charlie? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Sat Aug 29 09:49:35 2020 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 11:49:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> <008f01d67e09$e3cc49b0$ab64dd10$@rr.com> Message-ID: <004f01d67e1b$fede8120$fc9b8360$@sympatico.ca> Bob, I am unfamiliar with ?da bomb?, but presume it means they are good (aka pukka, the bees knees, bonza, etc.), If so, where are these replacements designed by Eric Grunden available? My throttle bush is worn and it was on my list to replace this winter. Mirek From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: August 29, 2020 11:02 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication Wow! That's going the extra parsec. I looked mine over when I reinstalled the engine at 208K miles, and they were fine. I replaced one, but it wasn't because of wear; I managed to screw something up. I put a little grease in the sockets, but that was the first time. What really wears is the throttle cross-shaft bushes (brass/rubber; brass was OK, rubber was shot); the new nylon/teflon--I've seen them called both--replacements designed by Eric Grunden are da bomb. On 8/29/2020 6:39 AM, Max Byers via Healeys wrote: O.K., I?ll provide a 4th response. I separate and clean the ball joints/sockets once a year during maintenance in preparation for the new season and re-lubricate them with white lithium grease. Enough of the grease squeezes out to block the entry of dirt and water until the next time. I?m still using the same joints that came to me with the car 36 years ago. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:58 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. Does anyone agree with this? Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball sockets are nylon/plastic. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sat Aug 29 10:15:52 2020 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:15:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <004f01d67e1b$fede8120$fc9b8360$@sympatico.ca> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> <008f01d67e09$e3cc49b0$ab64dd10$@rr.com> <004f01d67e1b$fede8120$fc9b8360$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: When my carbs came back from a rebuilding I was amazed how much less force I had to exert when activating the choke cable. Best--Michael Oritt On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 11:50 AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Bob, I am unfamiliar with ?da bomb?, but presume it means they are good > (aka pukka, the bees knees, bonza, etc.), If so, where are these > replacements designed by Eric Grunden available? My throttle bush is worn > and it was on my list to replace this winter. > > > > Mirek > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Bob > Spidell > *Sent:* August 29, 2020 11:02 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication > > > > Wow! That's going the extra parsec. I looked mine over when I reinstalled > the engine at 208K miles, and they were fine. I replaced one, but it wasn't > because of wear; I managed to screw something up. I put a little grease in > the sockets, but that was the first time. > > What really wears is the throttle cross-shaft bushes (brass/rubber; brass > was OK, rubber was shot); the new nylon/teflon--I've seen them called > both--replacements designed by Eric Grunden are da bomb. > > > On 8/29/2020 6:39 AM, Max Byers via Healeys wrote: > > O.K., I?ll provide a 4th response. > > > > I separate and clean the ball joints/sockets once a year during > maintenance in preparation for the new season and re-lubricate them with > white lithium grease. Enough of the grease squeezes out to block the > entry of dirt and water until the next time. I?m still using the same > joints that came to me with the car 36 years ago. > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC USA > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > ] *On Behalf Of *warthodson--- via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:58 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication > > > > I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. > I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. > Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage > ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to > not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. > > Does anyone agree with this? > > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > > > > A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball > sockets are nylon/plastic. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > > > Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ab7vf at yahoo.com Sat Aug 29 10:34:21 2020 From: ab7vf at yahoo.com (jim) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2127416683.151423.1598718861852@mail.yahoo.com> Something like this? On Saturday, 29 August 2020, 06:33:52 GMT-7, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys wrote: Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled grit/dust. I would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 you may rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem is: WD40 lubricant does not last very long. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. Does anyone agree with this? Gary Hodson? -----Original Message----- From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys A drop of oil? now and then is a good idea on any car bar when? ball sockets are nylon/plastic. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 you may > rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem is: WD40 > lubricant does not last very long. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: > > I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. > I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. > Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage > ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to > not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. > Does anyone agree with this? > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > > > > A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball > sockets are nylon/plastic. > Kees Oudesluijs > > > Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Aug 29 10:55:40 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 09:55:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <004f01d67e1b$fede8120$fc9b8360$@sympatico.ca> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> <008f01d67e09$e3cc49b0$ab64dd10$@rr.com> <004f01d67e1b$fede8120$fc9b8360$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: I got mine from Moss Motors. I think they have a UK store; at least, they used to. 'Da bomb' indeed means good, or at least it did to the young'uns ... probably way out of date. On 8/29/2020 8:49 AM, m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca wrote: > > Bob, I am unfamiliar with ?da bomb?, but presume it means they are > good (aka pukka, the bees knees, bonza, etc.),? If so, where are these > replacements designed by Eric Grunden available?? My throttle bush is > worn and it was on my list to replace this winter. > > Mirek > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Bob Spidell > *Sent:* August 29, 2020 11:02 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication > > Wow! That's going the extra parsec. I looked mine over when I > reinstalled the engine at 208K miles, and they were fine. I replaced > one, but it wasn't because of wear; I managed to screw something up. I > put a little grease in the sockets, but that was the first time. > > What really wears is the throttle cross-shaft bushes (brass/rubber; > brass was OK, rubber was shot); the new nylon/teflon--I've seen them > called both--replacements designed by Eric Grunden are da bomb. > > > On 8/29/2020 6:39 AM, Max Byers via Healeys wrote: > > O.K., I?ll provide a 4^th response. > > I separate and clean the ball joints/sockets once a year during > maintenance in preparation for the new season and re-lubricate > them with white lithium grease.? ??Enough of the grease squeezes > out to block the entry of dirt and water until the next time.? I?m > still using the same joints that came to me with the car 36 years ago. > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > Havelock, NC? USA > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf > Of *warthodson--- via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:58 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication > > I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of > lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split > (50/50) decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment > that the unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought > some would suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that > would trap & hold the abrasive particles. > > Does anyone agree with this? > > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > > > > A drop of oil? now and then is a good idea on any car bar when? > ball sockets are nylon/plastic. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most > persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Aug 29 10:58:46 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 09:58:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <2127416683.151423.1598718861852@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> <2127416683.151423.1598718861852@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f6f611c-1919-7a36-e254-83b9e23b1027@comcast.net> FWIW, 'my' locksmith Corinne recommended against graphite; she said it gunks-up the mechanisms. IIRC, she used a WD-40 product (but not the original WD-40, which I only use to displace moisture on my nuclear-tipped Atlas missile warheads). On 8/29/2020 9:34 AM, jim via Healeys wrote: > Something like this? > > On Saturday, 29 August 2020, 06:33:52 GMT-7, Kees Oudesluijs via > Healeys wrote: > > > Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled grit/dust. > I would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 > you may rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem > is: WD40 lubricant does not last very long. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: > I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of > lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) > decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the > unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would > suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & > hold the abrasive particles. > Does anyone agree with this? > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > > > > A drop of oil? now and then is a good idea on any car bar when? ball > sockets are nylon/plastic. > Kees Oudesluijs > > > Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Aug 29 11:04:42 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 10:04:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <5f6f611c-1919-7a36-e254-83b9e23b1027@comcast.net> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> <2127416683.151423.1598718861852@mail.yahoo.com> <5f6f611c-1919-7a36-e254-83b9e23b1027@comcast.net> Message-ID: This brought to mind a joke I used to play on my co-pilot/navigator for our long Healey trips: I'd load up the sticky lock on my BJ8's glove box with graphite, and when he opened it to get a map, etc. got graphite all over his hands (it's a real pain to get off skin and other surfaces). Worked every year. On 8/29/2020 9:58 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > FWIW, 'my' locksmith Corinne recommended against graphite; she said it > gunks-up the mechanisms. IIRC, she used a WD-40 product (but not the > original WD-40, which I only use to displace moisture on my > nuclear-tipped Atlas missile warheads). > > > On 8/29/2020 9:34 AM, jim via Healeys wrote: >> Something like this? >> >> On Saturday, 29 August 2020, 06:33:52 GMT-7, Kees Oudesluijs via >> Healeys wrote: >> >> >> Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled >> grit/dust. I would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a >> spray like WD40 you may rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the >> same time. Problem is: WD40 lubricant does not last very long. >> >> Kees Oudesluijs >> >> >> >> Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: >> I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of >> lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) >> decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the >> unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would >> suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & >> hold the abrasive particles. >> Does anyone agree with this? >> Gary Hodson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys >> >> >> >> A drop of oil? now and then is a good idea on any car bar when? ball >> sockets are nylon/plastic. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> >> >> Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: >> A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. >> >> On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Aug 29 11:09:55 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 10:09:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> <008f01d67e09$e3cc49b0$ab64dd10$@rr.com> <004f01d67e1b$fede8120$fc9b8360$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: I realized I could be a bit more helpful: https://mossmotors.com/bushing-set-teflon On 8/29/2020 9:55 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > I got mine from Moss Motors. I think they have a UK store; at least, > they used to. > > 'Da bomb' indeed means good, or at least it did to the young'uns ... > probably way out of date. > > On 8/29/2020 8:49 AM, m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca wrote: >> >> Bob, I am unfamiliar with ?da bomb?, but presume it means they are >> good (aka pukka, the bees knees, bonza, etc.),? If so, where are >> these replacements designed by Eric Grunden available?? My throttle >> bush is worn and it was on my list to replace this winter. >> >> Mirek >> >> *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Bob >> Spidell >> *Sent:* August 29, 2020 11:02 AM >> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication >> >> Wow! That's going the extra parsec. I looked mine over when I >> reinstalled the engine at 208K miles, and they were fine. I replaced >> one, but it wasn't because of wear; I managed to screw something up. >> I put a little grease in the sockets, but that was the first time. >> >> What really wears is the throttle cross-shaft bushes (brass/rubber; >> brass was OK, rubber was shot); the new nylon/teflon--I've seen them >> called both--replacements designed by Eric Grunden are da bomb. >> >> >> On 8/29/2020 6:39 AM, Max Byers via Healeys wrote: >> >> O.K., I?ll provide a 4^th response. >> >> I separate and clean the ball joints/sockets once a year during >> maintenance in preparation for the new season and re-lubricate >> them with white lithium grease.? ??Enough of the grease squeezes >> out to block the entry of dirt and water until the next time.? >> I?m still using the same joints that came to me with the car 36 >> years ago. >> >> Steve Byers >> >> HBJ8L/36666 >> >> BJ8 Registry >> >> AHCA Delegate at Large >> >> Havelock, NC? USA >> >> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf >> Of *warthodson--- via Healeys >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:58 AM >> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication >> >> I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of >> lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split >> (50/50) decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty >> environment that the unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, >> I thought some would suggest the it is better to not have any >> lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. >> >> Does anyone agree with this? >> >> Gary Hodson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys >> >> >> >> A drop of oil? now and then is a good idea on any car bar when? >> ball sockets are nylon/plastic. >> >> Kees Oudesluijs >> >> Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: >> >> A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most >> persistent. >> >> On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Aug 29 11:48:43 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 17:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Rebuilt O/D Unit In-Reply-To: <226137957.137052.1598713834238@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> <1c25d472-ca63-3b7d-1fcc-52ee1e322313@comcast.net> <40868bbf-208f-1644-39f3-b55baa2f8b38@chello.nl> <1588331105.96710.1598705898985@mail.yahoo.com> <1785289470.5926641.1598707674825.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net> <226137957.137052.1598713834238@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <750041006.209194.1598723323665@mail.yahoo.com> A friend of mine just bought a rebuilt overdrive unit for an MG from Quantum Mechanics.? He said they charged $1200 for it.? Apparently still in business.Mike MacLean On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 8:11:27 AM PDT, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: Quantum Mechanics rebuilt my OD & transmission. I am very happy with the results. That was probably 8 years ago.?Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Bob Spidell via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Aug 29, 2020 9:36 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rebuilt O/D Unit Try: https://www.quantumechanics.com/ I have no experience with them, and their website hasn't been updated in ages but AFAIK they're still in business. Bob On 8/29/2020 6:27 AM, Charles Schott via Healeys wrote: Would someone please tell me who in the states sells rebuilt O/D units for a BT7? Thanks. Regards, Charlie? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Aug 29 13:46:26 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 19:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Holes In-Reply-To: <1714015238.119864.1598705008960@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1714015238.119864.1598705008960.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1714015238.119864.1598705008960@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <743091826.252696.1598730386095@mail.yahoo.com> OK, so everyone on the list is busy today.? I got no answers to my question.? A friend suggested I feel under the inside of the shroud for a blob of Bondo near the existing hole.? Well, here is what I found.? On the passenger side it is quite evident this guy filled the hole behind the existing hole.? I don't know if it is welded (I doubt it), but you can see where it was filled in.? The other side is not so clear.? This idiot cleaned the inside up where it will never show.? I could not feel this with my finger.? I had to get my cell phone and take a picture in selfie mode so I could see when to snap it.? Just for once couldn't the body shop be normal and just leave a blob of Bondo like a normal person would. On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 5:47:12 AM PDT, Michael MacLean via Healeys wrote: Can someone with a 100 measure for me the distance from the tip of the trunk hinge at the top to the two holes for the convertible top retaining bar fitting?? Somehow during the bodywork one of the holes was filled in on both sides.? I can't be sure which hole they left there.? If you expand the included picture you can see the single hole I have for the retainer bar fitting.? I can't figure if this is the forward hole or the rear one.Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: holes2a.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 111843 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On the > passenger side it is quite evident this guy filled the hole behind the > existing hole. I don't know if it is welded (I doubt it), but you can see > where it was filled in. The other side is not so clear. This idiot > cleaned the inside up where it will never show. I could not feel this with > my finger. I had to get my cell phone and take a picture in selfie mode so > I could see when to snap it. Just for once couldn't the body shop be > normal and just leave a blob of Bondo like a normal person would. > > On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 5:47:12 AM PDT, Michael MacLean via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Can someone with a 100 measure for me the distance from the tip of the > trunk hinge at the top to the two holes for the convertible top retaining > bar fitting? Somehow during the bodywork one of the holes was filled in on > both sides. I can't be sure which hole they left there. If you expand the > included picture you can see the single hole I have for the retainer bar > fitting. I can't figure if this is the forward hole or the rear one. > Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These > sockets are new from Moss. Am I missing something? The hole through the > center of the socket is offset from the center. Is it supposed to be like > that and why? Also, not exactly a flush fit to the door skin, but very > tight in the threaded hole. Kind of a bummer. > Mike MacLean > > > > > > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20200829_144346.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1623206 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20200829_143419.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 861021 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20200829_144346.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1623206 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ynotink at msn.com Sat Aug 29 16:14:14 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 22:14:14 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Holes In-Reply-To: References: <1714015238.119864.1598705008960.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1714015238.119864.1598705008960@mail.yahoo.com> <743091826.252696.1598730386095@mail.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: Mike, the two holes are different sizes. The front one is about 1/8? in diameter as the fixing screw goes through it and into a matching threaded hole in the cleat. The rear hole is larger, looks about the size you show, because the cleat has a threaded extension that sticks through the shroud and is secured with a top hat style spacer and the screw. That is because the isn?t enough depth in the casting for the screw to extend through the bodywork. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:00 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes Can't give you the hole distance but, from the tip of the trunk hinge to the closest point of the top socket is 1.25". M On Sat., Aug. 29, 2020, 3:51 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, > wrote: OK, so everyone on the list is busy today. I got no answers to my question. A friend suggested I feel under the inside of the shroud for a blob of Bondo near the existing hole. Well, here is what I found. On the passenger side it is quite evident this guy filled the hole behind the existing hole. I don't know if it is welded (I doubt it), but you can see where it was filled in. The other side is not so clear. This idiot cleaned the inside up where it will never show. I could not feel this with my finger. I had to get my cell phone and take a picture in selfie mode so I could see when to snap it. Just for once couldn't the body shop be normal and just leave a blob of Bondo like a normal person would. On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 5:47:12 AM PDT, Michael MacLean via Healeys > wrote: Can someone with a 100 measure for me the distance from the tip of the trunk hinge at the top to the two holes for the convertible top retaining bar fitting? Somehow during the bodywork one of the holes was filled in on both sides. I can't be sure which hole they left there. If you expand the included picture you can see the single hole I have for the retainer bar fitting. I can't figure if this is the forward hole or the rear one. Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Sat Aug 29 16:29:10 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 22:29:10 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Offset or Bad Q.C.? In-Reply-To: References: <791546578.286542.1598737893996.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <791546578.286542.1598737893996@mail.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: Yeah, I?m still having problems with this. The sockets don?t want to go flush with the exterior door panels and if they do they are going to kick the tops of the side curtains outside the windscreen posts. As Micheal says there is a lot of fiddling to make them fit if they ever do. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:08 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Offset or Bad Q.C.? The hole is offset to provide adjustment for the spacing of the sidescreen pins and distance of the sidescreens from the windshield posts. Takes a lot of fiddling to get correct. M On Sat., Aug. 29, 2020, 5:55 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, > wrote: I am installing the side curtain sockets in the doors of my BN2. These sockets are new from Moss. Am I missing something? The hole through the center of the socket is offset from the center. Is it supposed to be like that and why? Also, not exactly a flush fit to the door skin, but very tight in the threaded hole. Kind of a bummer. Mike MacLean [cid:75289a94-625c-48a3-a1ad-637d26b41d19] [cid:3bcd20a7-b988-4e27-b0b2-7bd0aea1393b] Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sat Aug 29 17:05:25 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 19:05:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Offset or Bad Q.C.? In-Reply-To: References: <791546578.286542.1598737893996.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <791546578.286542.1598737893996@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, exactly ... I suppose the guys on the assembly line had a selection of sockets allowing them to find one that was in the correct orientation just as it bottomed out ... M On Sat., Aug. 29, 2020, 6:29 p.m. WILLIAM B LAWRENCE, wrote: > Yeah, I?m still having problems with this. The sockets don?t want to go > flush with the exterior door panels and if they do they are going to kick > the tops of the side curtains outside the windscreen posts. As Micheal says > there is a lot of fiddling to make them fit if they ever do. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Michael > Salter via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:08 PM > *To:* Michael MacLean > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Offset or Bad Q.C.? > > The hole is offset to provide adjustment for the spacing of the sidescreen > pins and distance of the sidescreens from the windshield posts. > Takes a lot of fiddling to get correct. > > M > > On Sat., Aug. 29, 2020, 5:55 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I am installing the side curtain sockets in the doors of my BN2. These > sockets are new from Moss. Am I missing something? The hole through the > center of the socket is offset from the center. Is it supposed to be like > that and why? Also, not exactly a flush fit to the door skin, but very > tight in the threaded hole. 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URL: From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Sat Aug 29 17:33:33 2020 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 11:33:33 +1200 Subject: [Healeys] Holes In-Reply-To: References: <1714015238.119864.1598705008960.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1714015238.119864.1598705008960@mail.yahoo.com> <743091826.252696.1598730386095@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001401d67e5c$d0fc3950$72f4abf0$@xtra.co.nz> The distance from the bottom of the soft-top anchor to the bolt hole is 5/8? ? so add that to Michael?s 1.25? and you get a total of 1 7/8? from the top of the boot hinge to the anchor hole. That hole is 3/8? diameter. There is a further hole 1? north of that. It is an anchor hole to stop the anchor swivelling. It is 1/8? diameter. It is a locator peg only, not a threaded stud. Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Michael Salter Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2020 8:01 a.m. To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes Can't give you the hole distance but, from the tip of the trunk hinge to the closest point of the top socket is 1.25". M On Sat., Aug. 29, 2020, 3:51 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, > wrote: OK, so everyone on the list is busy today. I got no answers to my question. A friend suggested I feel under the inside of the shroud for a blob of Bondo near the existing hole. Well, here is what I found. On the passenger side it is quite evident this guy filled the hole behind the existing hole. I don't know if it is welded (I doubt it), but you can see where it was filled in. The other side is not so clear. This idiot cleaned the inside up where it will never show. I could not feel this with my finger. I had to get my cell phone and take a picture in selfie mode so I could see when to snap it. Just for once couldn't the body shop be normal and just leave a blob of Bondo like a normal person would. On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 5:47:12 AM PDT, Michael MacLean via Healeys > wrote: Can someone with a 100 measure for me the distance from the tip of the trunk hinge at the top to the two holes for the convertible top retaining bar fitting? Somehow during the bodywork one of the holes was filled in on both sides. I can't be sure which hole they left there. If you expand the included picture you can see the single hole I have for the retainer bar fitting. I can't figure if this is the forward hole or the rear one. Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sat Aug 29 18:21:38 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 20:21:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Offset or Bad Q.C.? In-Reply-To: <791546578.286542.1598737893996@mail.yahoo.com> References: <791546578.286542.1598737893996.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <791546578.286542.1598737893996@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It is part of the adjustment (tilt) to move the top of the side curtains against the top material. Don?t forget there is always more to the story. On almost all of the 100 side curtains except the perplex plastic ones, the adjustment for a good fit involved tweaking the metal frame a bit to get the top of the screen to fit snug against the top material. Rotating the sockets only gives so much adjustment. Oh if the wood block in the door has been messed with, all your hard work may be for not. This is another reason almost every outer panel, windshield, sidecurtains, etc should be test fit before the metal and body/paint work is completed. P Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Michael MacLean via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:57 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Offset or Bad Q.C.? I am installing the side curtain sockets in the doors of my BN2.? These sockets are new from Moss.? Am I missing something?? The hole through the center of the socket is offset from the center.? Is it supposed to be like that and why?? Also, not exactly a flush fit to the door skin, but very tight in the threaded hole.? Kind of a bummer. Mike MacLean Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20200829_144346.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1623206 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20200829_143419.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 861021 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Aug 29 18:52:27 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 00:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Holes In-Reply-To: References: <1714015238.119864.1598705008960.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1714015238.119864.1598705008960@mail.yahoo.com> <743091826.252696.1598730386095@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1099938792.310284.1598748747134@mail.yahoo.com> Bill,???? That makes perfect sense.? I have the new cleats and all the hardware including the top hat spacer.? Just have to drill out those rear holes for the extended boss.? I hate drilling through new paint though. On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 3:14:17 PM PDT, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: Mike, the two holes are different sizes. The front one is about 1/8? in diameter as the fixing screw goes through it and into a matching threaded hole in the cleat. The rear hole is larger, looks about the size you show, because the cleat has a threaded extension that sticks through the shroud and is secured with a top hat style spacer and the screw. That is because the isn?t enough depth in the casting for the screw to extend through the bodywork.?From: Healeys on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:00 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes?Can't give you the hole distance but, from the tip of the trunk hinge to the closest point of the top socket is 1.25". M On Sat., Aug. 29, 2020, 3:51 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, wrote: OK, so everyone on the list is busy today.? I got no answers to my question.? A friend suggested I feel under the inside of the shroud for a blob of Bondo near the existing hole.? Well, here is what I found.? On the passenger side it is quite evident this guy filled the hole behind the existing hole.? I don't know if it is welded (I doubt it), but you can see where it was filled in.? The other side is not so clear.? This idiot cleaned the inside up where it will never show.? I could not feel this with my finger.? I had to get my cell phone and take a picture in selfie mode so I could see when to snap it.? Just for once couldn't the body shop be normal and just leave a blob of Bondo like a normal person would. On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 5:47:12 AM PDT, Michael MacLean via Healeys wrote: Can someone with a 100 measure for me the distance from the tip of the trunk hinge at the top to the two holes for the convertible top retaining bar fitting?? Somehow during the bodywork one of the holes was filled in on both sides.? I can't be sure which hole they left there.? If you expand the included picture you can see the single hole I have for the retainer bar fitting.? I can't figure if this is the forward hole or the rear one.Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Sat Aug 29 20:11:07 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 02:11:07 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Offset or Bad Q.C.? In-Reply-To: <20200830002247.19241A1093@autox.team.net> References: <791546578.286542.1598737893996.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <791546578.286542.1598737893996@mail.yahoo.com>, <20200830002247.19241A1093@autox.team.net> Message-ID: I am wondering if there is a difference in the upper profile of the doors between the earlier and later cars. It seems like the sockets need a flatter surface in that area to work with the side curtains I have. It?s an early car, but the doors are not necessarily original to it. I have a set of the Perspex frames I intend to rebuild to fit, but I think I will end up having to bend the posts or the frames to make them fit. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Perry via Healeys Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 12:21 AM To: Michael MacLean Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Offset or Bad Q.C.? It is part of the adjustment (tilt) to move the top of the side curtains against the top material. Don?t forget there is always more to the story. On almost all of the 100 side curtains except the perplex plastic ones, the adjustment for a good fit involved tweaking the metal frame a bit to get the top of the screen to fit snug against the top material. Rotating the sockets only gives so much adjustment. Oh if the wood block in the door has been messed with, all your hard work may be for not. This is another reason almost every outer panel, windshield, sidecurtains, etc should be test fit before the metal and body/paint work is completed. P Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Michael MacLean via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:57 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Offset or Bad Q.C.? I am installing the side curtain sockets in the doors of my BN2. These sockets are new from Moss. Am I missing something? The hole through the center of the socket is offset from the center. Is it supposed to be like that and why? Also, not exactly a flush fit to the door skin, but very tight in the threaded hole. Kind of a bummer. Mike MacLean [cid:<75289a94-625c-48a3-a1ad-637d26b41d19>] [cid:<3bcd20a7-b988-4e27-b0b2-7bd0aea1393b>] Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But then it?s only been a year... ________________________________ From: Michael MacLean Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 12:52 AM To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE ; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes Bill, That makes perfect sense. I have the new cleats and all the hardware including the top hat spacer. Just have to drill out those rear holes for the extended boss. I hate drilling through new paint though. On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 3:14:17 PM PDT, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: Mike, the two holes are different sizes. The front one is about 1/8? in diameter as the fixing screw goes through it and into a matching threaded hole in the cleat. The rear hole is larger, looks about the size you show, because the cleat has a threaded extension that sticks through the shroud and is secured with a top hat style spacer and the screw. That is because the isn?t enough depth in the casting for the screw to extend through the bodywork. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:00 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes Can't give you the hole distance but, from the tip of the trunk hinge to the closest point of the top socket is 1.25". M On Sat., Aug. 29, 2020, 3:51 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, > wrote: OK, so everyone on the list is busy today. I got no answers to my question. A friend suggested I feel under the inside of the shroud for a blob of Bondo near the existing hole. Well, here is what I found. On the passenger side it is quite evident this guy filled the hole behind the existing hole. I don't know if it is welded (I doubt it), but you can see where it was filled in. The other side is not so clear. This idiot cleaned the inside up where it will never show. I could not feel this with my finger. I had to get my cell phone and take a picture in selfie mode so I could see when to snap it. Just for once couldn't the body shop be normal and just leave a blob of Bondo like a normal person would. On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 5:47:12 AM PDT, Michael MacLean via Healeys > wrote: Can someone with a 100 measure for me the distance from the tip of the trunk hinge at the top to the two holes for the convertible top retaining bar fitting? Somehow during the bodywork one of the holes was filled in on both sides. I can't be sure which hole they left there. If you expand the included picture you can see the single hole I have for the retainer bar fitting. I can't figure if this is the forward hole or the rear one. 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URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sun Aug 30 02:44:31 2020 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 18:44:31 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Original Car Radio Message-ID: <011901d67ea9$c82ccb80$58866280$@tpg.com.au> Hello Would anyone have photos of an original car radio fitted to their Austin-Healey? Still in the car of course. Many thanks Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sun Aug 30 06:44:54 2020 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 08:44:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Offset or Bad Q.C.? In-Reply-To: <791546578.286542.1598737893996@mail.yahoo.com> References: <791546578.286542.1598737893996.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <791546578.286542.1598737893996@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Michael-- The holes are eccentric or off-center to provide slight adjustability in moving the curtain a bit forward or aft on the door as well as to allow for slightly different distances between the insert rods, etc. Best--Michael Oritt On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 5:58 PM Michael MacLean via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I am installing the side curtain sockets in the doors of my BN2. These > sockets are new from Moss. Am I missing something? The hole through the > center of the socket is offset from the center. Is it supposed to be like > that and why? Also, not exactly a flush fit to the door skin, but very > tight in the threaded hole. 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Name: radio.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 115261 bytes Desc: not available URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Aug 30 09:39:51 2020 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:39:51 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Original Car Radio In-Reply-To: <011901d67ea9$c82ccb80$58866280$@tpg.com.au> References: <011901d67ea9$c82ccb80$58866280$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Most likely the radios would have been after-market. The radios were valve radios (most were two very bulky and heavy units with the amplifier/power supply often fitted in the engine compartment) until the mid/late '50's, followed by radios with valves and transistors combined (most still two units but less bulky and fitted inside the cabin) and the full transistor radio was introduced from about 1960 (one unit). Nearly all were AM but there were some radios with FM from the mid '50's (e.g. Telefunken, Becker, Blaupunkt, Grundig, Philips). Nearly all these radio's could be switched to the desired polarity and voltage. Different radio's were supplied by the dealers in different countries because of differences in the required band width. It would be logical to find BMC radio's if dealer supplied, but Motora may be another contender. These were all (mainly?) AM only. Kees Oudesluijs Op 30-8-2020 om 10:44 schreef Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys: > > Hello > > Would anyone have photos of an original car radio fitted to their > Austin-Healey? > > Still in the car of course. > > Many thanks > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Aug 30 09:58:42 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 08:58:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Original Car Radio In-Reply-To: References: <011901d67ea9$c82ccb80$58866280$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <0869487b-fb12-1f26-96cc-88960c5876db@comcast.net> I'm pretty sure my BJ8's radio was dealer-installed; the vinyl around the hole in the console was cut haphazardly. I haven't had it out recently, but IIRC there are some markings indicating it's a Motorola, which I've heard was often the case. Again, IIRC, it's pos. gnd. only. On 8/30/2020 8:39 AM, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys wrote: > > Most likely the radios would have been after-market. The radios were > valve radios (most were two very bulky and heavy units with the > amplifier/power supply often fitted in the engine compartment) until > the mid/late '50's, followed by radios with valves and transistors > combined (most still two units but less bulky and fitted inside the > cabin) and the full transistor radio was introduced from about 1960 > (one unit). Nearly all were AM but there were some radios with FM from > the mid '50's (e.g. Telefunken, Becker, Blaupunkt, Grundig, Philips). > Nearly all these radio's could be switched to the desired polarity and > voltage. > > Different radio's were supplied by the dealers in different countries > because of differences in the required band width. > > It would be logical to find BMC radio's if dealer supplied, but Motora > may be another contender. These were all (mainly?) AM only. > > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > Op 30-8-2020 om 10:44 schreef Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys: >> >> Hello >> >> Would anyone have photos of an original car radio fitted to their >> Austin-Healey? >> >> Still in the car of course. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Patrick Quinn >> >> Blue Mountains, Australia >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sun Aug 30 10:34:23 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:34:23 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Original Car Radio Message-ID: <07b8651622fd5b0dacad790593c295326ce09aee@webmail> My BJ8s radio was installed at the dealer when I purchased the car new in 1966. They drilled the fender for an antenna, with a huge 1" bit, and then handed me the blank plug with the 3000 emblem on it, that was in the spot where the radio was installed. I have the blank put away (same emblem as found on the boot lid). The manufacturer of the unit was Motorola and I have also been provided with a schematic. Here is another BMC radio in a different British ride. Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys" To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Sunday August 30 2020 1:45:40AM Subject: [Healeys] Original Car Radio Hello Would anyone have photos of an original car radio fitted to their Austin-Healey? Still in the car of course. Many thanks Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia [1] Virus-free. www.avast.com [2] [3] Links: ------ [1] https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient [2] https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient [3] http://chtrmail.spectrum.net/#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 8/30/2020 6:44 AM, Michael Oritt via Healeys wrote: > Michael-- > > The holes are eccentric or off-center to provide slight adjustability > in moving the curtain a bit forward or aft on the door as well as to > allow for slightly different distances between the insert?rods, etc. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 5:58 PM Michael MacLean via Healeys > > wrote: > > I am installing the side curtain sockets in the doors of my BN2.? > These sockets are new from Moss.? Am I missing something?? The > hole through the center of the socket is offset from the center.? > Is it supposed to be like that and why?? Also, not exactly a flush > fit to the door skin, but very tight in the threaded hole.? Kind > of a bummer. > Mike MacLean > > > > > > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com > -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 8/30/2020 1:44 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys wrote: > > Hello > > Would anyone have photos of an original car radio fitted to their > Austin-Healey? > > Still in the car of course. > > Many thanks > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > From warthodson at aol.com Sun Aug 30 11:07:16 2020 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Armstrong shock fluid level References: <1748888199.388091.1598807236020.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1748888199.388091.1598807236020@mail.yahoo.com> I know that the Armstrong shocks are not supposed to be filled to the top with oil, but I cannot find any reference on line to exactly how full they should be & how to measure the fluid level.?Gary Hodson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 8/30/2020 6:44 AM, Michael Oritt via Healeys wrote: Michael-- The holes are eccentric or off-center to provide slight adjustability in moving the curtain a bit forward or aft on the door as well as to allow for slightly different distances between the insert rods, etc. Best--Michael Oritt On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 5:58 PM Michael MacLean via Healeys > wrote: I am installing the side curtain sockets in the doors of my BN2. These sockets are new from Moss. Am I missing something? The hole through the center of the socket is offset from the center. Is it supposed to be like that and why? Also, not exactly a flush fit to the door skin, but very tight in the threaded hole. Kind of a bummer. Mike MacLean [cid:part2.AF03574E.85110D8A at porterscustom.com] [cid:part3.5EFC4A17.C2E57E4B at porterscustom.com] Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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By the later fifties, they were around twenty to thirty pounds, still about four weekly salaries' worth. The first all-transistor car radio was introduced by Motorola at the London Motor show in 1956 at a whopping forty-two pounds. If you ordered a radio from the factory with your car, it would have been one of a dozen models of Smith's Radiomobile, depending on your budget. In 1961, The Donald Healey Motor Company would install a Radiomobile 50T pushbutton for 36 pounds, 8 shillings with installation at 5 pounds ten shillings. This meant the radio went under the heater, the tube amplifier on the bulkhead next to the steering column brace, the speaker in a cardboard enclosure screwed to the carpeted bulkhead, the antenna on the left front fender (away from the coil on the other side), and various noise suppressors under the bonnet. Pictures are from the Smith's Radiomobile Austin Healey 3000 install sheet from July, 1959. 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I haven?t lubricated the throttle balls on any of my Healeys ? and don?t think I have missed it. ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys On Behalf Of warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:58 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. Does anyone agree with this? Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball sockets are nylon/plastic. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Sun Aug 30 15:07:13 2020 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:07:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication Message-ID: <05d401d67f11$894c2a10$9be47e30$@gmail.com> Speaking of graphite ? is that what people are using on speedo cables these days? Good results? Bad? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys On Behalf Of jim via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:34 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net; Kees Oudesluijs Subject: Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication Something like this? On Saturday, 29 August 2020, 06:33:52 GMT-7, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > wrote: Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled grit/dust. I would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 you may rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem is: WD40 lubricant does not last very long. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. Does anyone agree with this? Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball sockets are nylon/plastic. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bad? > > ---------------- > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of jim via Healeys > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:34 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net; Kees Oudesluijs > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication > > Something like this? > > On Saturday, 29 August 2020, 06:33:52 GMT-7, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys wrote: > > > Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled grit/dust. I would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 you may rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem is: WD40 lubricant does not last very long. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > > > Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: > I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. > Does anyone agree with this? > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > > > A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball sockets are nylon/plastic. > Kees Oudesluijs > > > Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ronfineesq at earthlink.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sun Aug 30 16:22:28 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 18:22:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1000848145.816120.1598637693926.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1000848145.816120.1598637693926@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Looked in the manuals regarding lubrication of the throttle rod ends and in the early 100 service manual it refers to using the ?oil can?, to ?lubricate all the hand brake linkage points, brake and clutch pedal linkages and carburetter control points, every 1000 miles? (pardon the spelling but its right out of the book). Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 2:02 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication Is it recommended to lube the throttle ball & socket joints or to leave them dry? 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URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Sun Aug 30 16:38:39 2020 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 18:38:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <23BB611F-272B-4166-BBD2-0F071658DA3C@earthlink.net> References: <05d401d67f11$894c2a10$9be47e30$@gmail.com> <23BB611F-272B-4166-BBD2-0F071658DA3C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <074401d67f1e$4f252870$ed6f7950$@gmail.com> Hummm ? did they recommend a lubricant for the speedo cable instead of the graphite? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: RON FINE Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 5:21 PM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com Cc: jim ; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication I was just told by Foreign Speedo to never use graphic lube on the cable or near the speedo. Gunks up the works. Ron Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2020, at 2:07 PM, alfuller194--- via Healeys > wrote: ? Speaking of graphite ? is that what people are using on speedo cables these days? Good results? Bad? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys > On Behalf Of jim via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:34 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net ; Kees Oudesluijs > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication Something like this? On Saturday, 29 August 2020, 06:33:52 GMT-7, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > wrote: Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled grit/dust. I would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 you may rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem is: WD40 lubricant does not last very long. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. Does anyone agree with this? Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball sockets are nylon/plastic. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ronfineesq at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Aug 30 16:48:19 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 15:48:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <05d401d67f11$894c2a10$9be47e30$@gmail.com> References: <05d401d67f11$894c2a10$9be47e30$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I use silicone lubricant ... doesn?t gunk up the works. > On Aug 30, 2020, at 2:07 PM, alfuller194--- via Healeys wrote: > > ? > Speaking of graphite ? is that what people are using on speedo cables these days? Good results? Bad? > > ---------------- > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of jim via Healeys > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:34 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net; Kees Oudesluijs > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication > > Something like this? > > On Saturday, 29 August 2020, 06:33:52 GMT-7, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys wrote: > > > Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled grit/dust. I would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 you may rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem is: WD40 lubricant does not last very long. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > > > Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: > I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. > Does anyone agree with this? > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > > > A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball sockets are nylon/plastic. > Kees Oudesluijs > > > Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sun Aug 30 17:03:22 2020 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 19:03:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <05d401d67f11$894c2a10$9be47e30$@gmail.com> References: <05d401d67f11$894c2a10$9be47e30$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <401fe946-f505-3e39-15eb-f45309bff528@earthlink.net> The current iteration of "Smiths Instruments", Caerbont Automotive Instruments, uses "ordinary wheel bearing grease". Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 8/30/20 5:07 PM, alfuller194--- via Healeys wrote: > > Speaking of graphite ? is that what people are using on speedo cables > these days? Good results? Bad? > > ---------------- > > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *jim > via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:34 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net; Kees Oudesluijs > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication > > Something like this? > > On Saturday, 29 August 2020, 06:33:52 GMT-7, Kees Oudesluijs via > Healeys > wrote: > > Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled grit/dust. > I would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 > you may rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem > is: WD40 lubricant does not last very long. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: > > I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of > lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) > decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the > unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would > suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & > hold the abrasive particles. > > Does anyone agree with this? > > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > > > A drop of oil? now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball > sockets are nylon/plastic. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Aug 30 18:35:33 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:35:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Armstrong shock fluid level In-Reply-To: <1748888199.388091.1598807236020@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1748888199.388091.1598807236020.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1748888199.388091.1598807236020@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <71f14179-a512-55e3-b37e-6df5eb9c8762@comcast.net> I was told, I believe by Peter Caldwell, that they should be filled to the seam between the shock body and the top cover. This makes sense, since if the working parts--pistons, etc.--are submerged that is enough fluid. Shocks can get warm, they need some head space for expansion. I grabbed a bunch of skinny wooden coffee stirrers from an airport kiosk; I use then as dip sticks to check the level. On 8/30/2020 10:07 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > I know that the Armstrong shocks are not supposed to be filled to the > top with oil, but I cannot find any reference on line to exactly how > full they should be & how to measure the fluid level. > Gary Hodson > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk Sun Aug 30 18:36:11 2020 From: emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk (David Lodge) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 00:36:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Speedo angle drive, BJ8. In-Reply-To: <1493383160.10068600.1598486574369@mail.yahoo.com> References: <396980617.9235106.1598415127022.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <396980617.9235106.1598415127022@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d67b69$10271e70$30755b50$@sbcglobal.net> <1493383160.10068600.1598486574369@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1363101227.459097.1598834171976@mail.yahoo.com> Frozen solid, as I supposed! The "output' worm gear/pinion was surrounded by solidified grease. All clean now and the gears appear to be in first-class condition! On Wednesday, 26 August 2020, 17:03:47 GMT-7, David Lodge via Healeys wrote: Thank you, John. I noticed the dimples of course, but my experience of core plugs is limited to those for water passages and casting apertures which are normally destroyed during removal. Project for the week-end.? I will photograph anything interesting. On Tuesday, 25 August 2020, 22:24:43 GMT-7, John Spaur via Healeys wrote: #yiv4688666468 -- filtered {}#yiv4688666468 filtered {}#yiv4688666468 filtered {}#yiv4688666468 p.yiv4688666468MsoNormal, #yiv4688666468 li.yiv4688666468MsoNormal, #yiv4688666468 div.yiv4688666468MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv4688666468 a:link, #yiv4688666468 span.yiv4688666468MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4688666468 a:visited, #yiv4688666468 span.yiv4688666468MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4688666468 span.yiv4688666468EmailStyle17 {font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv4688666468 .yiv4688666468MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv4688666468 filtered {}#yiv4688666468 div.yiv4688666468WordSection1 {}#yiv4688666468 I have rebuilt them many times and have never needed to replace the core plugs. They are dimpled in place and when you remove the dimple the core plug comes out and you just reinstall the core plug and dimple it back in. I also have never worked on one that is seized. The angle drives I have rebuilt only needed to have the internal flexible cable replaced. I have used an old speedo cable and shape the ends to fit with a grinder. ? From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lodge via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:12 PM To: Austin Healey Cc: David Lodge Subject: [Healeys] Speedo angle drive, BJ8. ? It's completely seized and three weeks completely submerged in penetrating oil has had not one whit of effect so I'm going to take it apart.? Does anyone know where I could lay hands on new sub-miniature core plugs, please? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 30 18:50:55 2020 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:50:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo angle drive, BJ8. In-Reply-To: <1363101227.459097.1598834171976@mail.yahoo.com> References: <396980617.9235106.1598415127022.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <396980617.9235106.1598415127022@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d67b69$10271e70$30755b50$@sbcglobal.net> <1493383160.10068600.1598486574369@mail.yahoo.com> <1363101227.459097.1598834171976@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01d67f30$c92066f0$5b6134d0$@sbcglobal.net> If it doesn?t work the gears can?t wear. Hahaha. I am glad it worked out David. From: David Lodge [mailto:emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 5:36 PM To: John Spaur Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo angle drive, BJ8. Frozen solid, as I supposed! The "output' worm gear/pinion was surrounded by solidified grease. All clean now and the gears appear to be in first-class condition! On Wednesday, 26 August 2020, 17:03:47 GMT-7, David Lodge via Healeys > wrote: Thank you, John. I noticed the dimples of course, but my experience of core plugs is limited to those for water passages and casting apertures which are normally destroyed during removal. Project for the week-end. I will photograph anything interesting. On Tuesday, 25 August 2020, 22:24:43 GMT-7, John Spaur via Healeys > wrote: I have rebuilt them many times and have never needed to replace the core plugs. They are dimpled in place and when you remove the dimple the core plug comes out and you just reinstall the core plug and dimple it back in. I also have never worked on one that is seized. The angle drives I have rebuilt only needed to have the internal flexible cable replaced. I have used an old speedo cable and shape the ends to fit with a grinder. From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lodge via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:12 PM To: Austin Healey > Cc: David Lodge > Subject: [Healeys] Speedo angle drive, BJ8. It's completely seized and three weeks completely submerged in penetrating oil has had not one whit of effect so I'm going to take it apart. Does anyone know where I could lay hands on new sub-miniature core plugs, please? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Aug 30 19:11:48 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 18:11:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <401fe946-f505-3e39-15eb-f45309bff528@earthlink.net> References: <05d401d67f11$894c2a10$9be47e30$@gmail.com> <401fe946-f505-3e39-15eb-f45309bff528@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I wouldn't use it inside the speedo. On 8/30/2020 4:03 PM, Bob Haskell wrote: > The current iteration of "Smiths Instruments", Caerbont Automotive > Instruments, uses "ordinary wheel bearing grease". > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > > On 8/30/20 5:07 PM, alfuller194--- via Healeys wrote: >> >> Speaking of graphite ? is that what people are using on speedo cables >> these days? Good results? Bad? >> From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 30 19:11:54 2020 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 18:11:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <074401d67f1e$4f252870$ed6f7950$@gmail.com> References: <05d401d67f11$894c2a10$9be47e30$@gmail.com> <23BB611F-272B-4166-BBD2-0F071658DA3C@earthlink.net> <074401d67f1e$4f252870$ed6f7950$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001301d67f33$b7720190$265604b0$@sbcglobal.net> Sparingly with grease. Photo from the workshop manual for my 1962 BT7. John From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of alfuller194--- via Healeys Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 3:39 PM To: 'RON FINE' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication Hummm ? did they recommend a lubricant for the speedo cable instead of the graphite? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: RON FINE > Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 5:21 PM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com Cc: jim >; Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication I was just told by Foreign Speedo to never use graphic lube on the cable or near the speedo. Gunks up the works. Ron Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2020, at 2:07 PM, alfuller194--- via Healeys > wrote: ? Speaking of graphite ? is that what people are using on speedo cables these days? Good results? Bad? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys > On Behalf Of jim via Healeys Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:34 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net ; Kees Oudesluijs > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication Something like this? On Saturday, 29 August 2020, 06:33:52 GMT-7, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > wrote: Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled grit/dust. I would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 you may rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem is: WD40 lubricant does not last very long. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & hold the abrasive particles. Does anyone agree with this? Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball sockets are nylon/plastic. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.teamnet/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ronfineesq at earthlinknet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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After all, I drove the Healey from Vancouver down to Mexico and back with a chipped synchro cone on the first motion shaft, although I didn't know THAT at the time.? Didn't know it, in fact, until I pulled the gearbox apart recently. Oh, and there was no safety wire on any of the selector fork fastening bolts!!? Exciting, what? 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Hahaha. ? I am glad it worked out David. ? From: David Lodge [mailto:emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 5:36 PM To: John Spaur Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo angle drive, BJ8. ? Frozen solid, as I supposed! ? The "output' worm gear/pinion was surrounded by solidified grease. ? All clean now and the gears appear to be in first-class condition! ? On Wednesday, 26 August 2020, 17:03:47 GMT-7, David Lodge via Healeys wrote: ? ? Thank you, John. ? I noticed the dimples of course, but my experience of core plugs is limited to those for water passages and casting apertures which are normally destroyed during removal. ? Project for the week-end.? I will photograph anything interesting. ? ? ? On Tuesday, 25 August 2020, 22:24:43 GMT-7, John Spaur via Healeys wrote: ? ? I have rebuilt them many times and have never needed to replace the core plugs. They are dimpled in place and when you remove the dimple the core plug comes out and you just reinstall the core plug and dimple it back in. I also have never worked on one that is seized. The angle drives I have rebuilt only needed to have the internal flexible cable replaced. I have used an old speedo cable and shape the ends to fit with a grinder. ? From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lodge via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:12 PM To: Austin Healey Cc: David Lodge Subject: [Healeys] Speedo angle drive, BJ8. ? It's completely seized and three weeks completely submerged in penetrating oil has had not one whit of effect so I'm going to take it apart.? Does anyone know where I could lay hands on new sub-miniature core plugs, please? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sigh. - Kent McLean From ynotink at msn.com Mon Aug 31 11:03:19 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 17:03:19 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Holes In-Reply-To: <668050EF-8983-47A8-8428-9AB474261A54@comcast.net> References: , <668050EF-8983-47A8-8428-9AB474261A54@comcast.net> Message-ID: Roger that. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Kent McLean Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 2:42 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes William Lawrence wrote: > I feel your pain. I still have some holes to drill for tenax stud etc. and haven?t yet found the courage to do it. But then it?s only been a year... Some things take time. I still need to find the time to restore my '56 100 BN2. I've owned it since 1974. Sigh. - Kent McLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 12:56:55 2020 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 14:56:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <401fe946-f505-3e39-15eb-f45309bff528@earthlink.net> References: <05d401d67f11$894c2a10$9be47e30$@gmail.com> <401fe946-f505-3e39-15eb-f45309bff528@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <04c801d67fc8$7f955c50$7ec014f0$@gmail.com> Yeah - wheel bearing grease is what I was taught, but thought I'd ask... ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller -----Original Message----- From: Bob Haskell Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 7:03 PM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com; 'jim' ; 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication The current iteration of "Smiths Instruments", Caerbont Automotive Instruments, uses "ordinary wheel bearing grease". Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 8/30/20 5:07 PM, alfuller194--- via Healeys wrote: > > Speaking of graphite ? is that what people are using on speedo cables > these days? Good results? Bad? > > ---------------- > > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *jim > via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:34 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net; Kees Oudesluijs > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication > > Something like this? > > On Saturday, 29 August 2020, 06:33:52 GMT-7, Kees Oudesluijs via > Healeys > wrote: > > Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled grit/dust. > I would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 > you may rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem > is: WD40 lubricant does not last very long. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: > > I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of > lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) > decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the > unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would > suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & > hold the abrasive particles. > > Does anyone agree with this? > > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > > > A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball > sockets are nylon/plastic. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archiv > e > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 13:15:32 2020 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 15:15:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Holes In-Reply-To: References: <668050EF-8983-47A8-8428-9AB474261A54@comcast.net> Message-ID: Kent-- Had you restored it when you first thought about doing so you would by now have had to restore it again. Best--Michael Oritt On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 1:04 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Roger that. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Kent McLean > > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2020 2:42 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Holes > > William Lawrence wrote: > > I feel your pain. I still have some holes to drill for tenax stud etc. > and haven?t yet found the courage to do it. But then it?s only been a > year... > > Some things take time. I still need to find the time to restore my '56 > 100 BN2. I've owned it since 1974. Sigh. > > - Kent McLean > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And in the spirit of Peter Egan, who once wrote "That weekend, under the influence of a case of Guinness and several pots of hot coffee, we accidentally disassembled my Morgan." -- you're committed. And you'll never look back. Gary Anderson -----Original Message----- From: healeys-request at autox.team.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2020 11:00 am Subject: Healeys Digest, Vol 13, Issue 324 Send Healeys mailing list submissions to ??? healeys at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? healeys-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? healeys-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: Holes (Kent McLean) ? 2. Re: Holes (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:42:54 -0400 From: Kent McLean To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes Message-ID: <668050EF-8983-47A8-8428-9AB474261A54 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii William Lawrence wrote: > I feel your pain. I still have some holes to drill for tenax stud etc. and haven?t yet found the courage to do it. But then it?s only been a year... Some things take time.? I still need to find the time to restore my '56 100 BN2. I've owned it since 1974. Sigh. - Kent McLean ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 17:03:19 +0000 From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE To: Kent McLean , "healeys at autox.team.net" ??? Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes Message-ID: ??? ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Roger that. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Kent McLean Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 2:42 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes William Lawrence wrote: > I feel your pain. I still have some holes to drill for tenax stud etc. and haven?t yet found the courage to do it. But then it?s only been a year... Some things take time.? I still need to find the time to restore my '56 100 BN2. I've owned it since 1974. Sigh. - Kent McLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But then I had no place to work on it. Bought a house and had no money. Had kids and had no time. Got divorced and had even less money, but managed to hold on to the car. It amazes me how time flies. Maybe the grandkids can help Papa work on his old car. - Kent McLean 1956 100 BN2 Rusting away since 1974 :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From warthodson at aol.com Mon Aug 31 16:01:18 2020 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 22:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Who can identify the driver of this Austin Healey? References: <699258075.946303.1598911278272.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <699258075.946303.1598911278272@mail.yahoo.com> An Austin Healey is featured today on Your Daily Photograph.Can anyone identify the driver or the dog?? https://mailchi.mp/ac2134a72a4e/your-daily-photograph-apr-274785?e=eddf5d26df Gary Hodson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rick On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 3:01 PM warthodson--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > An Austin Healey is featured today on Your Daily Photograph. > Can anyone identify the driver or the dog? > > > https://mailchi.mp/ac2134a72a4e/your-daily-photograph-apr-274785?e=eddf5d26df > > Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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BUT you will find that a big pair of Vicegrips (Oh sacrilage) will work better on really tight ones... M On Mon., Aug. 31, 2020, 6:41 p.m. Ron Fine via Healeys, < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I need to buy a flare nut wrench or wrenches to do some work on my brakes > on my ?61 BN7. > > Can anyone tell me what is the size or sizes I will need? The old nuts > already have some rounded corners. I can?t get a good measurement on them. > > Thanks, > > Ron Fine > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <699258075.946303.1598911278272@mail.yahoo.com> References: <699258075.946303.1598911278272.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <699258075.946303.1598911278272@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'd like to see the boxer as a passenger with this driver.\\ [image: cappy.jpg] Rick Neville On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 6:02 PM warthodson--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > An Austin Healey is featured today on Your Daily Photograph. > Can anyone identify the driver or the dog? > > > https://mailchi.mp/ac2134a72a4e/your-daily-photograph-apr-274785?e=eddf5d26df > > Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: cappy.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 182811 bytes Desc: not available URL: From manifold at telus.net Mon Aug 31 20:07:07 2020 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 19:07:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication In-Reply-To: <04c801d67fc8$7f955c50$7ec014f0$@gmail.com> References: <05d401d67f11$894c2a10$9be47e30$@gmail.com> <401fe946-f505-3e39-15eb-f45309bff528@earthlink.net> <04c801d67fc8$7f955c50$7ec014f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5DA1ED8AC8ED41F3B9F7FCC3D1D38196@AllInOne> I have both the Speedo and Tach cable out of my car for a major restoration. I took the inner cable out and cleaned well, oiled the cable and replaced it and put the cables on a shelf for storage. When I went to move the cables after several months the oil was on the shelf and not on the cable. I suspect the recommendation for light grease is so the lubrication stays on the inner cable. Harold -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of alfuller194 at gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 11:57 AM To: 'Bob Haskell'; 'jim'; 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication Yeah - wheel bearing grease is what I was taught, but thought I'd ask... ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller -----Original Message----- From: Bob Haskell Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 7:03 PM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com; 'jim' ; 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo Lubrication - was Throttle linkage lubrication The current iteration of "Smiths Instruments", Caerbont Automotive Instruments, uses "ordinary wheel bearing grease". Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 8/30/20 5:07 PM, alfuller194--- via Healeys wrote: > > Speaking of graphite - is that what people are using on speedo cables > these days? Good results? Bad? > > ---------------- > > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *jim > via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:34 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net; Kees Oudesluijs > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Throttle linkage lubrication > > Something like this? > > On Saturday, 29 August 2020, 06:33:52 GMT-7, Kees Oudesluijs via > Healeys > wrote: > > Well, you can have a joint with dry grit/dust or with oiled grit/dust. > I would still go for the latter. Perhaps if you use a spray like WD40 > you may rinse the joint clean and lubricate at the same time. Problem > is: WD40 lubricant does not last very long. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > Op 29-8-2020 om 14:58 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys: > > I have only received 3 replies & all 3 recommend some form of > lubrication. I am somewhat surprised. I anticipated a split (50/50) > decision. Considering the dirty, dusty, gritty environment that the > unsealed linkage ball & sockets operate in, I thought some would > suggest the it is better to not have any lubricant that would trap & > hold the abrasive particles. > > Does anyone agree with this? > > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > > > A drop of oil now and then is a good idea on any car bar when ball > sockets are nylon/plastic. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > Op 29-8-2020 om 03:41 schreef Bob Spidell: > > A little lube never hurts. Wheel bearing grease is the most persistent. > > On 8/28/2020 11:01 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archiv > e > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ab7vf at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net From ynotink at msn.com Mon Aug 31 20:16:41 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 02:16:41 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Who can identify the driver of this Austin Healey? In-Reply-To: References: <699258075.946303.1598911278272.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <699258075.946303.1598911278272@mail.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: My guess would be Bonzo and Ronald Reagan... ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of HealeyRick via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 12:59 AM To: warthodson at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Who can identify the driver of this Austin Healey? I'd like to see the boxer as a passenger with this driver.\\ [cappy.jpg] Rick Neville On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 6:02 PM warthodson--- via Healeys > wrote: An Austin Healey is featured today on Your Daily Photograph. 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