[Healeys] Today's Rant
Kees Oudesluijs
coudesluijs at chello.nl
Fri Apr 24 11:58:51 MDT 2020
Quite possible the car was made in Italy by Fiat? It least that is where
(som of) the Jeeps in Europe are coming from I believe
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 24-4-2020 om 19:18 schreef Bob England:
>
> Ira … USofA is not immune to the creeping metric menace … I had a 1995
> Jeep Cherokee bought new … went to change the water pump …. 9 bolts …
> 5 metric and 4 imperial … worst yet, had to change one of the dash
> light bulbs … took off the dash cover … “LUCAS” …. I’m still in
> therapy … BobE
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of
> *i erbs
> *Sent:* April 24, 2020 10:05 AM
> *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* Healeys
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>
> Yup,
>
> The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a
> storm over the cost to convert, so it never officially happened.
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
> 59 BN4
> 67MGB
> 65 AH Sprite
> phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>> wrote:
>
> “Flirted”? To tell the truth, I’d never given it much thought but
> had “assumed” that the US had resisted metrification. Don’t I
> recall that all oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US
> domination in that area? And planes……?
>
> I do know that, when Ted “The Grocer” Heath dragged the UK into
> the Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some
> hiccups along the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a
> pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed.
>
> EU: “You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey”.
>
> UK: “Won’t. Can’t. Shan’t”.
>
> Etcetc Finally:
>
> EU: “You will obey”.
>
> UK: “OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink
> proper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those
> glasses as “pints” whilst acknowledging that they contain
>
> 568.261ml litres each.
>
> EU: “Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese”.
>
> Aren’t we all allowed the occasional rant?
>
> Simon
>
> *From:*i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com <mailto:eyera3000 at gmail.com>>
> *Sent:* 24 April 2020 02:55
> *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com <mailto:ynotink at msn.com>>
> *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>; Patrick & Caroline
> Quinn <p_cquinn at tpg.com.au <mailto:p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>>; Healeys
> <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>
> When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada
> and mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so
> factories there could use metric tools
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
> 59 BN4
> 67MGB
> 65 AH Sprite
> phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com
> <mailto:ynotink at msn.com>> wrote:
>
> I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would
> have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16” bolt head. The
> design predated metrification in the US by a few decades. When
> Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s probably, they retained
> the US standard thread pattern while changing to a metric
> standard bolt head. It would probably have been more costly to
> retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern.
>
> Bill Lawrence
>
> BN1 #554
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com <mailto:eyera3000 at gmail.com>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM
> *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com
> <mailto:ynotink at msn.com>>
> *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
> <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>>; Patrick &
> Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn at tpg.com.au
> <mailto:p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net
> <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>
> Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on
> not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds
> with that exact situation. But also standards bolts heads too
> in some areas.
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
> 59 BN4
> 67MGB
> 65 AH Sprite
> phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE
> <ynotink at msn.com <mailto:ynotink at msn.com>> wrote:
>
> In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised
> to discover that while all of the fasteners used metric
> wrench sizes many in the short block used the UNC thread
> type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I assume
> that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the
> original GM castings and changed the head size to simplify
> tool inventory.
>
> Bill Lawrence
>
> BN1 #554
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
> <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> on behalf of
> simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
> <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM
> *To:* 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' <p_cquinn at tpg.com.au
> <mailto:p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>>
> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net
> <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>
> I have a vague memory of what we called “Transitional
> Rovers” ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ¾ tonner long
> wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been peculiar to
> the army.
>
> Glad I wasn’t in REME…..they had to maintain them.
>
> Simon
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
> <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> *On Behalf Of
> *Patrick & Caroline Quinn
> *Sent:* 23 April 2020 00:23
> *To:* 'David Nock' <healeydoc at gmail.com
> <mailto:healeydoc at gmail.com>>; 'Michael MacLean'
> <rrengineer.mike at att.net <mailto:rrengineer.mike at att.net>>
> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net
> <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>
> G’day
>
> Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned
> 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of
> BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them.
>
> Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon.
> AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and
> around the house. There are many variations of each for
> specific purposes.
>
> Hoo Roo
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On
> Behalf Of *David Nock
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM
> *To:* Michael MacLean
> *Cc:* Healeys
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>
> All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not
> Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread.
>
> However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one
> size apart from each other.
>
> The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen
> bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the
> studs that go thru into the cooling system.
>
> David Nock
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean
> <rrengineer.mike at att.net <mailto:rrengineer.mike at att.net>>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100
> short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the
> new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus
> the new set of springs I already had for the valves.
> The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white
> (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head
> gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque
> the head down to the block. My surprise, for some
> stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I
> managed to order the correct amount of washer for the
> head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also
> found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I
> have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there.
> I seem to remember someone talking about the water
> jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me
> look at the front of my block. Three studs and an
> empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking
> covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket
> set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone
> tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are
> Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator
> bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block
> or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The
> closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I
> find out I don't have.
>
> Mike MacLean
>
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