From thehealeyguy at gmail.com Thu Apr 2 12:05:45 2020 From: thehealeyguy at gmail.com (Bob Abbott) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 14:05:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] EMERGENCY PARTS - LOCATION In-Reply-To: <20200328185812.019A4A159D@autox.team.net> References: <20200328185812.019A4A159D@autox.team.net> Message-ID: I talked to Inan at Healey Surgeons today. They are taking calls and shipping orders as usual Bob On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 2:58 PM Michael Lempert wrote: > If your steering wheel breaks down, I can help. ? > > > > Regards, > > Mike Lempert > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehealeyguy at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Thu Apr 2 16:53:33 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 22:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Just in time References: <1497843562.67631.1585868013954.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1497843562.67631.1585868013954@mail.yahoo.com> Just got an email from Moss.? They have halted all operations on both coasts.? No mention for how long.? Just in time as I just got the BN2 engine on the stand for assembly.Mike MacLean Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: 20200402_154952.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4210305 bytes Desc: not available URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Apr 3 05:44:12 2020 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 12:44:12 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stand Message-ID: <001401d609ad$32f641c0$98e2c540$@alexarevel.plus.com> Thank you all very much for the replies. A lot of good advice and quite a few options. Making up a plate to enable side mounting is beyond me. I don't weld and, my garage being thatched, I don't think it realistic to learn. Can you imagine the conversation with the Insurance people? Right now, with "unnecessary journeys" being banned I can't go to a welder or have one come here. So, it seems that the best option is a big stand that will safely take the engine longways. So.that appears, to me at least, to be a 2,000lb six wheeler. They all look much the same. One of the attractions is that they seem to fold away quite handily. Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Fri Apr 3 08:56:52 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:56:52 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stand In-Reply-To: <001401d609ad$32f641c0$98e2c540$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <001401d609ad$32f641c0$98e2c540$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Good choice. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 11:44 AM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stand Thank you all very much for the replies. A lot of good advice and quite a few options. Making up a plate to enable side mounting is beyond me. I don?t weld and, my garage being thatched, I don?t think it realistic to learn. Can you imagine the conversation with the Insurance people? Right now, with ?unnecessary journeys? being banned I can?t go to a welder or have one come here. So, it seems that the best option is a big stand that will safely take the engine longways. So?that appears, to me at least, to be a 2,000lb six wheeler. They all look much the same. One of the attractions is that they seem to fold away quite handily. Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Apr 3 15:45:51 2020 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 22:45:51 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stand In-Reply-To: References: <001401d609ad$32f641c0$98e2c540$@alexarevel.plus.com> , <791951474.197927.1585935630124@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002001d60a01$3f515c30$bdf41490$@alexarevel.plus.com> And this is ours. Not very cuddly but good with burglars. Simon From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: 03 April 2020 20:20 To: Michael MacLean ; simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Stand Good looking mill. And I sure miss our Boston... _____ From: Michael MacLean > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 5:40 PM To: ynotink at msn.com >; simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Stand $50 Harbor Freight stand. Sent from AT &T Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:56 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > wrote: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I remember the round rubber disc seals that I bought for this, but are they supposed to flatten out in the cup around the valve stem like this?Mike MacLean Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20200403_155546.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2403540 bytes Desc: not available URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Fri Apr 3 17:21:49 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 19:21:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Jerry Wall Message-ID: Heard a little while ago that long time US Healey guy Jerry Wall has passed. No details. Condolences to his family and friends. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at gmail.com Fri Apr 3 17:57:18 2020 From: healeydoc at gmail.com (David Nock) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 16:57:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Valve seals In-Reply-To: <2131348746.319417.1585954859820@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2131348746.319417.1585954859820.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2131348746.319417.1585954859820@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes the original valve seals are a square seal and are installed inside the lower cup. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 4:00 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Valve seals Before I put this head on the engine I am removing the outer spring to look at the seal. Can someone tell me what I am looking at here? This rebuilt head has never been installed, but been sitting for several years. I remember the round rubber disc seals that I bought for this, but are they supposed to flatten out in the cup around the valve stem like this? Mike MacLean Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks.Mike M On Friday, April 3, 2020, 4:57:30 PM PDT, David Nock wrote: Yes the original valve seals are a square seal and are installed inside the lower cup.??David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org ?From: Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 4:00 PMTo: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Valve seals?Before I put this head on the engine I am removing the outer spring to look at the seal.? Can someone tell me what I am looking at here?? This rebuilt head has never been installed, but been sitting for several years.? I remember the round rubber disc seals that I bought for this, but are they supposed to flatten out in the cup around the valve stem like this? Mike MacLean Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Not very cuddly but good with burglars. Simon ? From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: 03 April 2020 20:20 To: Michael MacLean ; simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Stand ? Good looking mill. And I sure miss our Boston... From: Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 5:40 PM To: ynotink at msn.com ; simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Stand ? $50 Harbor Freight stand. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android ? On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:56 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4210305 bytes Desc: not available URL: From manifold at telus.net Fri Apr 3 18:47:42 2020 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 17:47:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Valve seals In-Reply-To: <409227017.209529.1585959516361@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2131348746.319417.1585954859820.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2131348746.319417.1585954859820@mail.yahoo.com> <409227017.209529.1585959516361@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <52923231BC03418FB057A3B53BC71EB4@AllInOne> Mike, I hate to mention this after just ordering new valve seals but you may want to consider upgrading to a modern seal. I attached on article from an MG source but it is very similar to a Healey valve stem. I put modern valve seals in my cylinder head. Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 5:19 PM To: Healeys; David Nock Subject: Re: [Healeys] Valve seals David, Just got off the phone with John. I ordered eight new seals. Turns out only two valves had seals. This head was supposed to be ready to install. Trust, but verify. Thanks. Mike M On Friday, April 3, 2020, 4:57:30 PM PDT, David Nock wrote: Yes the original valve seals are a square seal and are installed inside the lower cup. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 4:00 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Valve seals Before I put this head on the engine I am removing the outer spring to look at the seal. Can someone tell me what I am looking at here? This rebuilt head has never been installed, but been sitting for several years. I remember the round rubber disc seals that I bought for this, but are they supposed to flatten out in the cup around the valve stem like this? Mike MacLean Sent from AT &T Yahoo Mail on Android _____ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Do you have a part number?Mike MacLean On Friday, April 3, 2020, 5:47:56 PM PDT, Harold Manifold wrote: Mike,?I hate to mention this after just ordering new valve seals but you may want to consider upgrading to a modern seal. I attached on article from an MG source but it is very similar to a Healey valve stem. I put modern valve seals in my cylinder head.?Harold?? From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 5:19 PM To: Healeys; David Nock Subject: Re: [Healeys] Valve seals David,???? Just got off the phone with John.? I ordered eight new seals.? Turns out only two valves had seals.? This head was supposed to be ready to install.? Trust, but verify. Thanks.Mike M On Friday, April 3, 2020, 4:57:30 PM PDT, David Nock wrote: Yes the original valve seals are a square seal and are installed inside the lower cup.??David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org ?From: Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 4:00 PMTo: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Valve seals?Before I put this head on the engine I am removing the outer spring to look at the seal.? Can someone tell me what I am looking at here?? This rebuilt head has never been installed, but been sitting for several years.? I remember the round rubber disc seals that I bought for this, but are they supposed to flatten out in the cup around the valve stem like this? Mike MacLean Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20200403_155546.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2403540 bytes Desc: not available URL: From manifold at telus.net Fri Apr 3 19:39:00 2020 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 18:39:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Valve seals In-Reply-To: <1689262831.350096.1585962317577@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2131348746.319417.1585954859820.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2131348746.319417.1585954859820@mail.yahoo.com> <409227017.209529.1585959516361@mail.yahoo.com> <52923231BC03418FB057A3B53BC71EB4@AllInOne> <1689262831.350096.1585962317577@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5E00DC0F9B1B4C389B741D7B7DE2DC90@AllInOne> Mike, The seal recommendation was made to me by the machine shop that did the head work. The seal did fit right out of the box but I believe one of the springs was removed as the older engines require more oil on the valve stem for lubrication. I will find out the part number and report back. Give me a day or two. Stay safe... Harold _____ From: Michael MacLean [mailto:rrengineer.mike at att.net] Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 6:05 PM To: 'Healeys'; 'David Nock'; Harold Manifold Subject: Re: [Healeys] Valve seals Harold, Did your modern seal fit right "out of the box"? Did you have to modify it to fit? Do you have a part number? Mike MacLean On Friday, April 3, 2020, 5:47:56 PM PDT, Harold Manifold wrote: Mike, I hate to mention this after just ordering new valve seals but you may want to consider upgrading to a modern seal. I attached on article from an MG source but it is very similar to a Healey valve stem. I put modern valve seals in my cylinder head. Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 5:19 PM To: Healeys; David Nock Subject: Re: [Healeys] Valve seals David, Just got off the phone with John. I ordered eight new seals. Turns out only two valves had seals. This head was supposed to be ready to install. Trust, but verify. Thanks. Mike M On Friday, April 3, 2020, 4:57:30 PM PDT, David Nock wrote: Yes the original valve seals are a square seal and are installed inside the lower cup. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 4:00 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Valve seals Before I put this head on the engine I am removing the outer spring to look at the seal. Can someone tell me what I am looking at here? This rebuilt head has never been installed, but been sitting for several years. I remember the round rubber disc seals that I bought for this, but are they supposed to flatten out in the cup around the valve stem like this? 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Simon From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: 03 April 2020 20:20 To: Michael MacLean ; simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Stand Good looking mill. And I sure miss our Boston... ________________________________ From: Michael MacLean > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 5:40 PM To: ynotink at msn.com >; simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Stand $50 Harbor Freight stand. [cid:0kEJEezVcfpQV4Rpysw4] Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:56 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > wrote: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I had the pleasure of meeting Sterling Moss in about 1985 at the Moroso Race Track in West Palm Beach, FL. He was driving an ice blue Sebring Sprite coupe in the vintage class and was very quick. I walked into his pit area, said hello and he invited me to take all the photos I wanted. I remember that afternoon very fondly. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 4, 2020, at 2:43 PM, David P wrote: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtRWhPQVAY8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3b_KnYVApl3R6_1QlceFQIkN2JuF49qMYibO3n8xr6BjP1D3SlmJv4uAs > > -- > Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/markhenderson3376 at gmail.com > From nmcd10 at gmail.com Sat Apr 4 14:12:13 2020 From: nmcd10 at gmail.com (Neil McDonald) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 13:12:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sir Sterling Moss In-Reply-To: <6725df5a-78b6-ec3c-c103-b83489534d3b@porterscustom.com> References: <702853ed-1f7c-4a42-614a-dffc3d19d7f5@porterscustom.com> <6725df5a-78b6-ec3c-c103-b83489534d3b@porterscustom.com> Message-ID: Stunning memories! At the tender age of thirteen my father took me to Aintree to watch Moss drive the Vanwall to win the historic Grand Prix featured in this film. Seems like yesterday. Amazing! Neil BN6 Vancouver On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:43 AM David P wrote: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtRWhPQVAY8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3b_KnYVApl3R6_1QlceFQIkN2JuF49qMYibO3n8xr6BjP1D3SlmJv4uAs > > -- > Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM > . > 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/nmcd10 at gmail.com > > -- ____________________ Neil & Pam McDonald Email: nmcd10 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you David.Mike MacLean On Saturday, April 4, 2020, 11:43:31 AM PDT, David P wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtRWhPQVAY8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3b_KnYVApl3R6_1QlceFQIkN2JuF49qMYibO3n8xr6BjP1D3SlmJv4uAs -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Sat Apr 4 16:16:55 2020 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 22:16:55 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sir Sterling Moss In-Reply-To: <6725df5a-78b6-ec3c-c103-b83489534d3b@porterscustom.com> References: <702853ed-1f7c-4a42-614a-dffc3d19d7f5@porterscustom.com>, <6725df5a-78b6-ec3c-c103-b83489534d3b@porterscustom.com> Message-ID: Absolutely great video, thanks David. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of David P Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2020 1:43:07 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Sir Sterling Moss https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUtRWhPQVAY8%26feature%3Dyoutu.be%26fbclid%3DIwAR3b_KnYVApl3R6_1QlceFQIkN2JuF49qMYibO3n8xr6BjP1D3SlmJv4uAs&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb689d11905a249ed913308d7d8c81c14%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216226280748261&sdata=BOSN3o2a4Y70Xihr5tdTpC%2BM3u38WOPYlnlnFDyEhEA%3D&reserved=0 -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.porterbikes.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb689d11905a249ed913308d7d8c81c14%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216226280748261&sdata=DnkyD564wVn8dO4ntTVqPGCjhthrtIbpqjy8CrKdA5Y%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb689d11905a249ed913308d7d8c81c14%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216226280748261&sdata=65fbFsNGOOfGxiEwf5h7sNC6pYh6t4BqEqcPd9iX0dg%3D&reserved=0 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Fhealeys&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb689d11905a249ed913308d7d8c81c14%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216226280748261&sdata=rhxYzz7y93JpJrVy82FdH%2BojOutcjkkqu68QJJb1AH4%3D&reserved=0 https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb689d11905a249ed913308d7d8c81c14%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216226280748261&sdata=kYlZblSNQp%2B5mJpFYlZMUm56%2Fqfwjsz4RGmipDvuZmg%3D&reserved=0 Healeys at autox.team.net https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhealeys&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb689d11905a249ed913308d7d8c81c14%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216226280748261&sdata=tcnyqL4PhVh4lureL1v1HUWbnrfYA9mCaNXjjxdYB0E%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe/Manage: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fhealeys%2Fvintage_roadster_restoration%40hotmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb689d11905a249ed913308d7d8c81c14%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216226280748261&sdata=0I92FFhpbMPNqF9zwn2OHzyyXPsUHeC9P%2F6YhMeD6cU%3D&reserved=0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neilandcustom at gmail.com Sat Apr 4 17:07:51 2020 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 18:07:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Sir Sterling Moss In-Reply-To: <6725df5a-78b6-ec3c-c103-b83489534d3b@porterscustom.com> References: <702853ed-1f7c-4a42-614a-dffc3d19d7f5@porterscustom.com> <6725df5a-78b6-ec3c-c103-b83489534d3b@porterscustom.com> Message-ID: All, Please, at least spell his name correctly. It is Sir Stirling Moss. Best, Neil Anderson On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 1:43 PM David P wrote: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtRWhPQVAY8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3b_KnYVApl3R6_1QlceFQIkN2JuF49qMYibO3n8xr6BjP1D3SlmJv4uAs > > -- > Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My > World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Apr 4 18:22:28 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 00:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Rear Reflector Pods References: <1550014595.666854.1586046148608.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1550014595.666854.1586046148608@mail.yahoo.com> Can some one give me a measurement for the placement of the rear reflector pods?? I have to drill the holes for them and would like to do it correctly just once.? A measurement from the point back end of the pod to the top edge of the trunk lid would be most helpful, or something like that.Mike MacLean Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Sat Apr 4 18:33:27 2020 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 17:33:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Rear Reflector Pods In-Reply-To: <1550014595.666854.1586046148608@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1550014595.666854.1586046148608.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1550014595.666854.1586046148608@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Look on the back side of the shroud if it was due to body work and the holes are covered with filler, You will be able to find them on the trunk side. Otherwise i can get yo something on Monday > On Apr 4, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > Can some one give me a measurement for the placement of the rear reflector pods? I have to drill the holes for them and would like to do it correctly just once. A measurement from the point back end of the pod to the top edge of the trunk lid would be most helpful, or something like that. > Mike MacLean > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Sat Apr 4 18:33:27 2020 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 17:33:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Rear Reflector Pods In-Reply-To: <1550014595.666854.1586046148608@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1550014595.666854.1586046148608.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1550014595.666854.1586046148608@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Look on the back side of the shroud if it was due to body work and the holes are covered with filler, You will be able to find them on the trunk side. Otherwise i can get yo something on Monday > On Apr 4, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > Can some one give me a measurement for the placement of the rear reflector pods? I have to drill the holes for them and would like to do it correctly just once. A measurement from the point back end of the pod to the top edge of the trunk lid would be most helpful, or something like that. > Mike MacLean > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Apr 4 22:21:20 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 21:21:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sir Sterling Moss In-Reply-To: References: <702853ed-1f7c-4a42-614a-dffc3d19d7f5@porterscustom.com> <6725df5a-78b6-ec3c-c103-b83489534d3b@porterscustom.com> Message-ID: <38d5fe4e-5dbf-3819-b922-a9dce5a659e6@comcast.net> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... Wonder who would be a good actor to play Sir Moss in the biopic? On 4/4/2020 3:16 PM, Jean Caron wrote: > > Absolutely great video, thanks David. > > Jean > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at dleong.org Sat Apr 4 22:33:46 2020 From: david at dleong.org (David Leong) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 04:33:46 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sir Sterling Moss In-Reply-To: <38d5fe4e-5dbf-3819-b922-a9dce5a659e6@comcast.net> References: <702853ed-1f7c-4a42-614a-dffc3d19d7f5@porterscustom.com> <6725df5a-78b6-ec3c-c103-b83489534d3b@porterscustom.com> <38d5fe4e-5dbf-3819-b922-a9dce5a659e6@comcast.net> Message-ID: Patrick Stewart, for the old version of Mr. moss. Dave From: Bob Spidell Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2020 9:21 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sir Sterling Moss Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... Wonder who would be a good actor to play Sir Moss in the biopic? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pdzwig at summaventures.com Sun Apr 5 06:24:32 2020 From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:24:32 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Sir Stirling Moss In-Reply-To: <6725df5a-78b6-ec3c-c103-b83489534d3b@porterscustom.com> References: <702853ed-1f7c-4a42-614a-dffc3d19d7f5@porterscustom.com> <6725df5a-78b6-ec3c-c103-b83489534d3b@porterscustom.com> Message-ID: <9e8d1b2e-6615-0f65-72d3-a12283443319@summaventures.com> David, Thanks for sharing this I will watch it later. All, the man's right, it's "Stirling" as in the Scottish town,. I don't know if the name came about because his mother's surname was Craufurd implying a Scottish connection. His full name is Stirling Craufurd Moss. Peter On 04/04/2020 19:43, David P wrote: > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtRWhPQVAY8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3b_KnYVApl3R6_1QlceFQIkN2JuF49qMYibO3n8xr6BjP1D3SlmJv4uAs > > -- Dr. Peter Dzwig From healeyguy at aol.com Sun Apr 5 07:35:42 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 09:35:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sir Stirling Moss In-Reply-To: <9e8d1b2e-6615-0f65-72d3-a12283443319@summaventures.com> References: <702853ed-1f7c-4a42-614a-dffc3d19d7f5@porterscustom.com> <6725df5a-78b6-ec3c-c103-b83489534d3b@porterscustom.com> <9e8d1b2e-6615-0f65-72d3-a12283443319@summaventures.com> Message-ID: For the young Sir Stirling I nominate?? Of course someone would have to teach this young fellow to drive a race car. But for often as Sir Sterling crashed maybe that is not to important. ? Jeremy Seibert is a good ?young? friend of ours from Sandy Oregon. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Peter Dzwig Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:25 AM To: David P; 'healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sir Stirling Moss David, Thanks for sharing this I will watch it later. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 224CF8D0B898448598C65AA36168CEBB.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 23220 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in the hot sun. I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. May attach straps later to complete the seal. Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. 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It is Sir Stirling Moss. > > Best, > > Neil Anderson > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 1:43 PM David P wrote: > >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtRWhPQVAY8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3b_KnYVApl3R6_1QlceFQIkN2JuF49qMYibO3n8xr6BjP1D3SlmJv4uAs >> >> -- >> Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My >> World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They are also available on eBay and SC Parts among others John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Listers: Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in the hot sun. I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. May attach straps later to complete the seal. Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 ?67 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 5 11:44:50 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 10:44:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> References: <030c01d60b5b$a888b7b0$f99a2710$@gmail.com> <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <94dfc898-1483-7c05-979d-273cfd0bd62b@comcast.net> I looked into buying/building one a couple years ago; a friend and I until recently took a long--up to 5K miles--Healey trip every spring and the wind battering definitely adds to fatigue.? When I discussed it with my friend/navigator he said not to do it; getting beaten-up by the wind was part of the 'experience.' The hood only comes up in hard rain, and that's mostly to keep the floorpans (relatively) dry. On 4/5/2020 8:34 AM, ahbn6--- via Healeys wrote: > > *Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available > on eBay and SC Parts among others* > > ** > > *John Sims* > > *www.healey6.com * > > *Matawan, NJ* > > ** > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Robert > Begani > *Sent:* Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker > > Listers: > > Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield > behind the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 > MPH the wind blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow > your hat off and discourage your female passenger from ridding with > you when the top is down.? I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had > Wind blockers for all LBC, but, not the big Healey.? So I considered > building my own and looked them up on the site to see how they were > constructed, found the now have a Wind blocker for the big Healey, and > immediately ordered it for $175.00. > > In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my > best purchase to give comfort to my top down driving.? In Florida in > the winter it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up > the top for 2 years.? I may never put up the top, unless I am going > hundreds of miles in the hot sun. > > I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the > posts and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and > laying on the top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is > little drape. I was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts > to get a good seal.? May attach straps later to complete the seal. > > Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top > down.? Best toy for your Healey.? I have no interest in lbcarco.? > Also, the product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list > of special offers to find, however, it is in the search field under > Tonneau. > > Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. > > Regards, > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 ?67 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun Apr 5 12:31:47 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 14:31:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: <94dfc898-1483-7c05-979d-273cfd0bd62b@comcast.net> References: <030c01d60b5b$a888b7b0$f99a2710$@gmail.com> <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> <94dfc898-1483-7c05-979d-273cfd0bd62b@comcast.net> Message-ID: Top up is for wussies. [image: image.png] On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:52 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > I looked into buying/building one a couple years ago; a friend and I until > recently took a long--up to 5K miles--Healey trip every spring and the wind > battering definitely adds to fatigue. When I discussed it with my > friend/navigator he said not to do it; getting beaten-up by the wind was > part of the 'experience.' > > The hood only comes up in hard rain, and that's mostly to keep the > floorpans (relatively) dry. > > > On 4/5/2020 8:34 AM, ahbn6--- via Healeys wrote: > > *Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available on > eBay and SC Parts among others* > > > > *John Sims* > > *www.healey6.com * > > *Matawan, NJ* > > > > *From:* Healeys > *On Behalf Of *Robert Begani > *Sent:* Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker > > > > Listers: > > > > Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind > the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind > blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and > discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is > down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all > LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked > them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a > Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. > > > > In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best > purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter > it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 > years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in > the hot sun. > > > > I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts > and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the > top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I > was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. > May attach straps later to complete the seal. > > > > Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top > down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the > product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special > offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. > > > > Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. > > > > Regards, > > > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 ?67 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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He of course won. ?I remember Sterling passing another competitor in a corner - hard for me to believe. ?But that was not the shock for me. ?So, trophy time and on the bandstand is Miss Tulip ?or Tacoma or some other little cutie and the trophy is handed up to Sterling by Miss Tulip and he reaches down, picks her up, and proceeds to suck her face off. ?Yup. ?Little Miss Tulip had never had that happen. ?James and I were staggered. ?My question to you was what the hell was Sterling Moss doing at Pacific Raceways? ?I do know, as I am a Mini fan (had two of them in the 1960?s when I was a student at the UW, Seattle), that his sister was a physicist and worked on the suspension designs for the Mini and perhaps a driver as well? Keep well,? All the best, Andy On Apr 5, 2020, at 2:04 PM, David P wrote: Not bike racing but car racing and a new look at Patrick Stewart if you're a Trek fan..? I happened to idolize Moss, and was very fortunate to spend a day with him at a Santa fe car show as co-judges. I felt just like Stewart at the conclusion of our meeting.. FWIW PS I idolized Moss as a kid. I grew up with foreign sports cars and SCCA racing... many of my nutty bike design ideas came from race car thinking.. again FWIW. dp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtRWhPQVAY8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3b_KnYVApl3R6_1QlceFQIkN2JuF49qMYibO3n8xr6BjP1D3SlmJv4uAs -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ _______________________________________________ Bike-racers mailing list Bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bike-racers -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Framebuilders" group. 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Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Porter Sent: Monday, 6 April 2020 9:30 AM To: healeys at autox team. net Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: [Frame] Sir Sterling Moss Interesting tidbit out of the Moss video.. anyone else have any Moss stories to share..? Dave PS sorry about the spelling..dang autocorrect malfunction. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From pdzwig at summaventures.com Mon Apr 6 03:11:06 2020 From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:11:06 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: [Frame] Sir Stirling Moss In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <99518e35-5aad-15b9-5cc2-f8e92edb4011@summaventures.com> Just thought I'd try to track this down a bit. Looking things up in Edwards' "Stirling Moss: The Authorised Biography" which contains a list of "all" his races I can't find anything for 1959 that fits the bill. He was at Riverside in the autumn of that year where he retired, Watkins Glen (won) and Sebring (retired). In early 60 he was at Sebring again and later in the year at Watkins Glen, Riverside and Laguna Seca. Sorry not be able to be able to offer more information. There are stories that I have come across in other contexts of him appearing making virtually unannounced guest appearances. Perhaps this was one such case. Recall that in those days drivers were much less restricted on who they drove for and when than today. Regards, Peter On 06/04/2020 00:30, David Porter wrote: > Interesting tidbit out of the Moss video.. anyone else have any Moss > stories to share..? > Dave > PS sorry about the spelling..dang autocorrect malfunction. > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > *Subject:* Re: [Frame] Sir Sterling Moss > *From:* Andy Newlands > *Sent:* Sunday, April 5, 2020, 3:40 PM > *To:* Dave Porter > *CC:* > > > Hi Dave, > So, my friend James and I took the train from Portland to Seattle > perhaps in 1959 - I think we were 14 maybe - and got off in Kent and as > I remember walked to Pacific Raceways. ?http://pacificraceways.com/Some > kind of sportscar race going on and we knew enough to know that Sterling > Moss was in the field. ? He of course won. ?I remember Sterling passing > another competitor in a corner - hard for me to believe. ?But that was > not the shock for me. ?So, trophy time and on the bandstand is Miss > Tulip ?or Tacoma or some other little cutie and the trophy is handed up > to Sterling by Miss Tulip and he reaches down, picks her up, and > proceeds to suck her face off. ?Yup. ?Little Miss Tulip had never had > that happen. ?James and I were staggered. ?My question to you was what > the hell was Sterling Moss doing at Pacific Raceways? ?I do know, as I > am a Mini fan (had two of them in the 1960?s when I was a student at the > UW, Seattle), that his sister was a physicist and worked on the > suspension designs for the Mini and perhaps a driver as well? > Keep well,? > All the best, > Andy > >> On Apr 5, 2020, at 2:04 PM, David P > > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Not bike racing but car racing and a new look at Patrick Stewart if >> you're a Trek fan..? I happened to idolize Moss, and was very >> fortunate to spend a day with him at a Santa fe car show as co-judges. >> I felt just like Stewart >> >> at the conclusion of our meeting.. FWIW >> >> PS I idolized Moss as a kid. I grew up with foreign sports cars and >> SCCA racing... many of my nutty bike design ideas came from race car >> thinking.. again FWIW. dp >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtRWhPQVAY8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3b_KnYVApl3R6_1QlceFQIkN2JuF49qMYibO3n8xr6BjP1D3SlmJv4uAs >> >> -- >> Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 >> My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bike-racers mailing list >> Bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com >> https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bike-racers >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Framebuilders" group. >> >> Searchable archives for this group can be found at >> http://groups.google.com/group/framebuilders (recent content) and >> http://search.bikelist.org (older content). >> >> To post to this group, send email to framebuilders at googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> framebuilders+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/framebuilders?hl=en >> >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Framebuilders" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to framebuilders+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/framebuilders/b70eb6cd-db87-7fac-9357-769c22427551%40porterscustom.com. > > Andy Newlands > owner/framebuilder > andy at strawberrybicycle.com > Terra Nova Cycles LLC > 1535 SW 17th. Ave, Portland, OR 97201? > 503-224-1215 > www.strawberrybicycle.com > www.torchandfile.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pdzwig at summaventures.com > -- Dr. Peter Dzwig From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Apr 6 13:28:28 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 15:28:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Milestone in interesting times. Message-ID: Big milestone for my Ebay Store today. Actually managed to get my posted parts up to 1000 items. Please take a look if you require anything. I have tried to make everything VERY competitively priced. I really don't want my widow to be left with all this stuff. ??? 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They are also available on > eBay and SC Parts among others* > > > > *John Sims* > > *www.healey6.com * > > *Matawan, NJ* > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Robert > Begani > *Sent:* Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker > > > > Listers: > > > > Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind > the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind > blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and > discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is > down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all > LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked > them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a > Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. > > > > In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best > purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter > it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 > years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in > the hot sun. > > > > I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts > and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the > top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I > was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. > May attach straps later to complete the seal. > > > > Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top > down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the > product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special > offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. > > > > Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. > > > > Regards, > > > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 ?67 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 7 11:58:20 2020 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 17:58:20 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: References: <030c01d60b5b$a888b7b0$f99a2710$@gmail.com> <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net>, Message-ID: My wife stopped riding with me because of the backwash . Exhaust fumes and messed up hair were the final complaints. Not sure what to do now. :-) Regards, Richard C BN7 440 On Apr 7, 2020, at 12:31, richard mayor wrote: ? For that price, I think I would make my own. Has anyone on the list made their own yet? On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 8:34 AM ahbn6--- via Healeys > wrote: Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available on eBay and SC Parts among others John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Listers: Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in the hot sun. I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. May attach straps later to complete the seal. Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 ?67 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Apr 7 12:55:38 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 14:55:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: References: <030c01d60b5b$a888b7b0$f99a2710$@gmail.com> <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> Message-ID: The mention of exhaust fumes reminds me of an experience that we encountered when building AHX12 related to this subject. When the car was first built we fitted an exhaust system that exited at the rear but left it short such that it extended back barely beyond the flange where the boot floor is riveted to the rear shroud much the way it was in Jerry Coker's original drawings and on the original Earl's Court car. Immediately we test drove the car, the cockpit was filled with exhaust fumes to the degree that it made your eyes water. After giving the subject due consideration, and trying a couple of other things we extended the tailpipe to well beyond the rear bodywork and the problem was solved immediately. I always thought the length of the tailpipe looked a bit odd on Healeys but it took this experience to teach me why!! M On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 2:01 PM Richard Collins wrote: > My wife stopped riding with me because of the backwash . Exhaust fumes and > messed up hair were the final complaints. > Not sure what to do now. :-) > > Regards, > Richard C > BN7 440 > > On Apr 7, 2020, at 12:31, richard mayor wrote: > > ? > For that price, I think I would make my own. Has anyone on the list made > their own yet? > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 8:34 AM ahbn6--- via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> *Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available on >> eBay and SC Parts among others* >> >> >> >> *John Sims* >> >> *www.healey6.com * >> >> *Matawan, NJ* >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Robert >> Begani >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM >> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker >> >> >> >> Listers: >> >> >> >> Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind >> the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind >> blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and >> discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is >> down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all >> LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked >> them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a >> Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. >> >> >> >> In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best >> purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter >> it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 >> years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in >> the hot sun. >> >> >> >> I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts >> and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the >> top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I >> was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. >> May attach straps later to complete the seal. >> >> >> >> Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top >> down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the >> product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special >> offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. >> >> >> >> Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Bob Begani >> >> BJ8 ?67 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 7 13:14:31 2020 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 19:14:31 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: References: <030c01d60b5b$a888b7b0$f99a2710$@gmail.com> <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> , Message-ID: Zackly; my pipes extend just past the bumper with the slight upward trim. Basically stock from headers back although I do have ?racing? headers for it. No plans for a wind blocker. Regards, Richard C On Apr 7, 2020, at 13:55, Michael Salter wrote: ? The mention of exhaust fumes reminds me of an experience that we encountered when building AHX12 related to this subject. When the car was first built we fitted an exhaust system that exited at the rear but left it short such that it extended back barely beyond the flange where the boot floor is riveted to the rear shroud much the way it was in Jerry Coker's original drawings and on the original Earl's Court car. Immediately we test drove the car, the cockpit was filled with exhaust fumes to the degree that it made your eyes water. After giving the subject due consideration, and trying a couple of other things we extended the tailpipe to well beyond the rear bodywork and the problem was solved immediately. I always thought the length of the tailpipe looked a bit odd on Healeys but it took this experience to teach me why!! M On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 2:01 PM Richard Collins > wrote: My wife stopped riding with me because of the backwash . Exhaust fumes and messed up hair were the final complaints. Not sure what to do now. :-) Regards, Richard C BN7 440 On Apr 7, 2020, at 12:31, richard mayor > wrote: ? For that price, I think I would make my own. Has anyone on the list made their own yet? On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 8:34 AM ahbn6--- via Healeys > wrote: Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available on eBay and SC Parts among others John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Listers: Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in the hot sun. I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. May attach straps later to complete the seal. Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 ?67 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Tue Apr 7 13:34:45 2020 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 19:34:45 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: References: <030c01d60b5b$a888b7b0$f99a2710$@gmail.com> <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> , Message-ID: Here is a different type of exhaust that I have photographed on an Austin-Healey 100 in the Healey Museum a couple of years ago. Jean [cid:image003.jpg at 01D60CE9.91C15C50] Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Michael Salter Sent: April 7, 2020 1:57 PM To: Richard Collins Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker The mention of exhaust fumes reminds me of an experience that we encountered when building AHX12 related to this subject. When the car was first built we fitted an exhaust system that exited at the rear but left it short such that it extended back barely beyond the flange where the boot floor is riveted to the rear shroud much the way it was in Jerry Coker's original drawings and on the original Earl's Court car. Immediately we test drove the car, the cockpit was filled with exhaust fumes to the degree that it made your eyes water. After giving the subject due consideration, and trying a couple of other things we extended the tailpipe to well beyond the rear bodywork and the problem was solved immediately. I always thought the length of the tailpipe looked a bit odd on Healeys but it took this experience to teach me why!! M On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 2:01 PM Richard Collins > wrote: My wife stopped riding with me because of the backwash . Exhaust fumes and messed up hair were the final complaints. Not sure what to do now. :-) Regards, Richard C BN7 440 On Apr 7, 2020, at 12:31, richard mayor > wrote: ? For that price, I think I would make my own. Has anyone on the list made their own yet? On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 8:34 AM ahbn6--- via Healeys > wrote: Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available on eBay and SC Parts among others John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Listers: Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in the hot sun. I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. May attach straps later to complete the seal. Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 ?67 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 4/7/20 3:34 PM, Jean Caron wrote: > Here is a different type of exhaust that I have photographed on an > Austin-Healey 100 in the Healey Museum a couple of years ago. > > Jean > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *Michael Salter > *Sent: *April 7, 2020 1:57 PM > *To: *Richard Collins > *Cc: *healeys > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker > > The mention of exhaust fumes reminds me of an experience that we > encountered when building AHX12 related to this subject. > > When the car was first built we fitted an exhaust system that exited at > the rear but left it short such that it extended back barely beyond the > flange where the boot floor is riveted to the rear shroud much the way > it was in Jerry Coker's original drawings and on the original Earl's > Court car. > > Immediately we test drove the car, the cockpit was filled with exhaust > fumes to the degree that it made your eyes water. > > After giving the subject due consideration, and trying a couple of other > things we extended the tailpipe to well beyond the rear bodywork and the > problem was solved immediately. > > I always thought the length of the tailpipe looked a bit odd on Healeys > but it took this experience to teach me why!! > > M > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 2:01 PM Richard Collins > > wrote: > > My wife stopped riding with me because of the backwash . Exhaust > fumes and messed up hair were the final complaints. > > Not sure what to do now. ?:-) > > Regards, > > Richard C > > BN7 440 > > > > On Apr 7, 2020, at 12:31, richard mayor > wrote: > > ? > > For that price, I think I would make my own.? Has anyone on the > list made their own yet? > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 8:34 AM ahbn6--- via Healeys > > wrote: > > *Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also > available on eBay and SC Parts among others* > > ** > > *John Sims* > > *www.healey6.com > * > > *Matawan, NJ* > > ** > > *From:*Healeys > *On Behalf Of > *Robert Begani > *Sent:* Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker > > Listers: > > Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic > shield behind the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey > because after 50 MPH the wind blowing from behind is a > tremendous force which will blow your hat off and discourage > your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is > down.? I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com > > had Wind blockers for all LBC, but, not the big Healey.? So > I considered building my own and looked them up on the site > to see how they were constructed, found the now have a Wind > blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for > $175.00. > > In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has > become my best purchase to give comfort to my top down > driving.? In Florida in the winter it is the land of top > down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 years.? I > may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of > miles in the hot sun. > > I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance > between the posts and a little more so the pipe wedged > between the posts and laying on the top frame holds up the > Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I was able > to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good > seal.? May attach straps later to complete the seal. > > Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s > with the top down.? Best toy for your Healey.? I have no > interest in lbcarco.? Also, the product is hard to find as > you have to scroll down the list of special offers to find, > however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. > > Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is > raining. > > Regards, > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 ?67 > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Tue Apr 7 13:55:11 2020 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 19:55:11 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: <5da62c4e-5763-eb2c-08f9-7d78f5ea02c1@earthlink.net> References: <030c01d60b5b$a888b7b0$f99a2710$@gmail.com> <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> , <5da62c4e-5763-eb2c-08f9-7d78f5ea02c1@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Bob, Behind the left rear wheel, the exhaust pipe had a 90degree curve that then went up into rear cavity of the fender and a hole was cut for the pitp to exit where you see it. This exhaust tip was held in place by three rivets if my memory serves me right but I cannot recall how the pipe itself was attached to that tip. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bob Haskell Sent: April 7, 2020 2:47 PM To: Jean Caron Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Jean, How was the exhaust routed underneath the car? Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 4/7/20 3:34 PM, Jean Caron wrote: > Here is a different type of exhaust that I have photographed on an > Austin-Healey 100 in the Healey Museum a couple of years ago. > > Jean > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *Michael Salter > *Sent: *April 7, 2020 1:57 PM > *To: *Richard Collins > *Cc: *healeys > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker > > The mention of exhaust fumes reminds me of an experience that we > encountered when building AHX12 related to this subject. > > When the car was first built we fitted an exhaust system that exited at > the rear but left it short such that it extended back barely beyond the > flange where the boot floor is riveted to the rear shroud much the way > it was in Jerry Coker's original drawings and on the original Earl's > Court car. > > Immediately we test drove the car, the cockpit was filled with exhaust > fumes to the degree that it made your eyes water. > > After giving the subject due consideration, and trying a couple of other > things we extended the tailpipe to well beyond the rear bodywork and the > problem was solved immediately. > > I always thought the length of the tailpipe looked a bit odd on Healeys > but it took this experience to teach me why!! > > M > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 2:01 PM Richard Collins > > wrote: > > My wife stopped riding with me because of the backwash . Exhaust > fumes and messed up hair were the final complaints. > > Not sure what to do now. :-) > > Regards, > > Richard C > > BN7 440 > > > > On Apr 7, 2020, at 12:31, richard mayor > wrote: > > ? > > For that price, I think I would make my own. Has anyone on the > list made their own yet? > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 8:34 AM ahbn6--- via Healeys > > wrote: > > *Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also > available on eBay and SC Parts among others* > > ** > > *John Sims* > > *www.healey6.com > * > > *Matawan, NJ* > > ** > > *From:*Healeys > *On Behalf Of > *Robert Begani > *Sent:* Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker > > Listers: > > Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic > shield behind the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey > because after 50 MPH the wind blowing from behind is a > tremendous force which will blow your hat off and discourage > your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is > down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com > > had Wind blockers for all LBC, but, not the big Healey. So > I considered building my own and looked them up on the site > to see how they were constructed, found the now have a Wind > blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for > $175.00. > > In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has > become my best purchase to give comfort to my top down > driving. In Florida in the winter it is the land of top > down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 years. I > may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of > miles in the hot sun. > > I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance > between the posts and a little more so the pipe wedged > between the posts and laying on the top frame holds up the > Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I was able > to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good > seal. May attach straps later to complete the seal. > > Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s > with the top down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no > interest in lbcarco. Also, the product is hard to find as > you have to scroll down the list of special offers to find, > however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. > > Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is > raining. > > Regards, > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 ?67 > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Tue Apr 7 13:55:04 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 12:55:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: <94dfc898-1483-7c05-979d-273cfd0bd62b@comcast.net> References: <030c01d60b5b$a888b7b0$f99a2710$@gmail.com> <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> <94dfc898-1483-7c05-979d-273cfd0bd62b@comcast.net> Message-ID: the rear window in my BN4 top zippers open. It's great when driving on hot days. The tops give you a break and the flow through kppes the car cool, plus cuts down on buffeting Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:53 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > I looked into buying/building one a couple years ago; a friend and I until > recently took a long--up to 5K miles--Healey trip every spring and the wind > battering definitely adds to fatigue. When I discussed it with my > friend/navigator he said not to do it; getting beaten-up by the wind was > part of the 'experience.' > > The hood only comes up in hard rain, and that's mostly to keep the > floorpans (relatively) dry. > > > On 4/5/2020 8:34 AM, ahbn6--- via Healeys wrote: > > *Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available on > eBay and SC Parts among others* > > > > *John Sims* > > *www.healey6.com * > > *Matawan, NJ* > > > > *From:* Healeys > *On Behalf Of *Robert Begani > *Sent:* Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker > > > > Listers: > > > > Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind > the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind > blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and > discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is > down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all > LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked > them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a > Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. > > > > In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best > purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter > it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 > years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in > the hot sun. > > > > I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts > and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the > top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I > was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. > May attach straps later to complete the seal. > > > > Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top > down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the > product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special > offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. > > > > Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. > > > > Regards, > > > > Bob Begani > > BJ8 ?67 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He met up with us & we > followed his to his shop where he replaced the bearings. It was one of > those unbelievably memorable experiences, except for one thing. I cannot > recall the shop owner's name. He was a Healey owner & did Concours quality > restoration work. > Does anyone know to whom I am referring? > > Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 9:16 AM warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: Coming home from a road trip to Vancouver Island, I had a front bearing fail somewhere near Omak, Washington on Highway 20. Thru a series of amazing coincidences we were contacted by a restoration shop in that area that had a set of Healey front wheel bearings. He met up with us & we followed his to his shop where he replaced the bearings. It was one of those unbelievably memorable experiences, except for one thing. I cannot recall the shop owner's name. He was a Healey owner & did Concours quality restoration work.?Does anyone know to whom I am referring?? ? Gary Hodson_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbyers at ec.rr.com Wed Apr 8 09:31:49 2020 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (Max Byers) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 11:31:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop In-Reply-To: <1071171145.2522983.1586357304014@mail.yahoo.com> References: <95874135.2480727.1586355369773.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <95874135.2480727.1586355369773@mail.yahoo.com> <1071171145.2522983.1586357304014@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002e01d60dba$d2f24820$78d6d860$@rr.com> Sean Johnson is up in that area, but I?m not sure exactly where. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:48 AM To: neilandcustom at gmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop Hi Neil, I don't think that is the shop. It appears to have been located in Oregon & we were farther north in Washington headed east on Hwy 20, definitely near Omak. Thanks, Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Neil Anderson To: warthodson Cc: Austin Healey Sent: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 9:23 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop Was it John Wilson, Healey Lane Restoration? He passed away a couple of years ago. Neil Anderson On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 9:16 AM warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: Coming home from a road trip to Vancouver Island, I had a front bearing fail somewhere near Omak, Washington on Highway 20. Thru a series of amazing coincidences we were contacted by a restoration shop in that area that had a set of Healey front wheel bearings. He met up with us & we followed his to his shop where he replaced the bearings. It was one of those unbelievably memorable experiences, except for one thing. I cannot recall the shop owner's name. He was a Healey owner & did Concours quality restoration work. Does anyone know to whom I am referring? Gary Hodson _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From airtightproductions at icloud.com Wed Apr 8 09:33:08 2020 From: airtightproductions at icloud.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 15:33:08 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop Message-ID: <8c0c335c-04f8-42cc-ad3f-68761d0735c3@me.com> Was it this place??http://www.british-car-ranch.com/index.html Because Steve Day is a great guy and a great mechanic to boot. Steven Kingsbury On April 8, 2020 at 7:48 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: Hi Neil, I don't think that is the shop. It appears to have been located in Oregon & we were farther north in Washington headed east on Hwy 20, definitely near Omak. Thanks, Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Neil Anderson To: warthodson Cc: Austin Healey Sent: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 9:23 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop Was it John Wilson,? Healey Lane Restoration?? He passed away a couple of years ago.? Neil Anderson? On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 9:16 AM warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: Coming home from a road trip to Vancouver Island, I had a front bearing fail somewhere near Omak, Washington on Highway 20. Thru a series of amazing coincidences we were contacted by a restoration shop in that area that had a set of Healey front wheel bearings. He met up with us & we followed his to his shop where he replaced the bearings. It was one of those unbelievably memorable experiences, except for one thing. I cannot recall the shop owner's name. He was a Healey owner & did Concours quality restoration work.? Does anyone know to whom I am referring?? ? 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It appears to have been located in Oregon & we were farther north in Washington headed east on Hwy 20, definitely near Omak.Thanks,Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Neil Anderson To: warthodson Cc: Austin Healey Sent: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 9:23 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop Was it John Wilson,? Healey Lane Restoration?? He passed away a couple of years ago.? Neil Anderson? On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 9:16 AM warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: Coming home from a road trip to Vancouver Island, I had a front bearing fail somewhere near Omak, Washington on Highway 20. Thru a series of amazing coincidences we were contacted by a restoration shop in that area that had a set of Healey front wheel bearings. He met up with us & we followed his to his shop where he replaced the bearings. It was one of those unbelievably memorable experiences, except for one thing. I cannot recall the shop owner's name. He was a Healey owner & did Concours quality restoration work.?Does anyone know to whom I am referring?? ? Gary Hodson_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Apparently he does not have a website that I can find.Thanks,Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Max Byers To: healeys Sent: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 10:32 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop #yiv4965681415 #yiv4965681415 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} #yiv4965681415 #yiv4965681415 p.yiv4965681415MsoNormal, #yiv4965681415 li.yiv4965681415MsoNormal, #yiv4965681415 div.yiv4965681415MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;} #yiv4965681415 a:link, #yiv4965681415 span.yiv4965681415MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv4965681415 a:visited, #yiv4965681415 span.yiv4965681415MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv4965681415 span.yiv4965681415EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;} #yiv4965681415 .yiv4965681415MsoChpDefault {} _filtered {} #yiv4965681415 div.yiv4965681415Section1 {} #yiv4965681415 Sean Johnson is up in that area, but I?m not sure exactly where. ? Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC? USA From: Healeys[mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of warthodson--- viaHealeys Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:48 AM To: neilandcustom at gmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop ? Hi Neil, I don't think that is the shop. It appears to have been located inOregon & we were farther north in Washington headed east on Hwy 20,definitely near Omak. Thanks, Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Neil Anderson To: warthodson Cc: Austin Healey Sent: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 9:23 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop Was it John Wilson,? Healey Lane Restoration?? He passedaway a couple of years ago.? ? Neil Anderson? ? On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 9:16 AM warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: Coming home from a road trip to Vancouver Island, I had a frontbearing fail somewhere near Omak, Washington on Highway 20. Thru a series ofamazing coincidences we were contacted by a restoration shop in that area thathad a set of Healey front wheel bearings. He met up with us & we followedhis to his shop where he replaced the bearings. It was one of thoseunbelievably memorable experiences, except for one thing. I cannot recall theshop owner's name. He was a Healey owner & did Concours quality restorationwork.? Does anyone know to whom I am referring?? ? ? 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URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Wed Apr 8 11:30:44 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 17:30:44 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop Message-ID: <6086b5884c7e6a999bcea73e53ab42666013dfb0@webmail> That would be Sean's shop in Omak-near the Canadian border. He brought this BJ8 to Lake Chelan Rendezvous 2019 for concours judging. He has a lot of Healey knowledge. Lynn Martin, Idaho did the 100 pictured. Regards, Hank -----------------------------------------From: "warthodson--- via Healeys" To: sbyers at ec.rr.com, healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday April 8 2020 9:07:56AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop Steve,, Yes, that sounds familiar & I have found several references to "Sean Johnson, The Healey Healer". Apparently he does not have a website that I can find. Thanks, Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Max Byers To: healeys Sent: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 10:32 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop Sean Johnson is up in that area, but I?m not sure exactly where. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA FROM: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] ON BEHALF OF warthodson--- via Healeys SENT: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:48 AM TO: neilandcustom at gmail.com CC: healeys at autox.team.net SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop Hi Neil, I don't think that is the shop. It appears to have been located in Oregon & we were farther north in Washington headed east on Hwy 20, definitely near Omak. Thanks, Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Neil Anderson To: warthodson Cc: Austin Healey Sent: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 9:23 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vintage restoration shop Was it John Wilson, Healey Lane Restoration? He passed away a couple of years ago. Neil Anderson On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 9:16 AM warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: Coming home from a road trip to Vancouver Island, I had a front bearing fail somewhere near Omak, Washington on Highway 20. Thru a series of amazing coincidences we were contacted by a restoration shop in that area that had a set of Healey front wheel bearings. He met up with us & we followed his to his shop where he replaced the bearings. It was one of those unbelievably memorable experiences, except for one thing. I cannot recall the shop owner's name. He was a Healey owner & did Concours quality restoration work. Does anyone know to whom I am referring? 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URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Thu Apr 9 13:21:18 2020 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Robert Begani) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:21:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: <69A44EDE823848BF8C6F6101F44804FB@LeonardPCPC> References: <030c01d60b5b$a888b7b0$f99a2710$@gmail.com> <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net>, <69A44EDE823848BF8C6F6101F44804FB@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <019e01d60ea4$0d0cdae0$272690a0$@gmail.com> The blocker I bought is attached to the tonneau bar fixtures behind the driver in which the tonneau bar fits into. It is the most logical and existing fixture to use. Just behind the seats. Why try to reinvent the wheel? Far closer to the driver than the driver side of your roll bar. Just drove 75 miles at 45-65 mph with a baseball cap on and not the slightest movement from the wind to send it sailing. However, when I went over the Peace River Bridge there was a 15 knot crosswind and it have blown my heat off so I took it off. Again, the blocker I bought is perfect for the task of blocking the wind. Love it. Bob Begani From: Healeys On Behalf Of Len and/or Marge Hartnett Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 4:31 PM To: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker For those contemplating building their own, be advised that the blocker needs to be pretty close to the back or your head. I have a roll bar in my BJ8. I tried attaching a sheet of acrilic to it. It did not work. Still got serious wind on the back of the head. The attached photo shows what it would have looked like. It was attached with velcro straps (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu Apr 9 13:36:47 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:36:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: <019e01d60ea4$0d0cdae0$272690a0$@gmail.com> References: <030c01d60b5b$a888b7b0$f99a2710$@gmail.com> <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> <69A44EDE823848BF8C6F6101F44804FB@LeonardPCPC> <019e01d60ea4$0d0cdae0$272690a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Alright for those guys who have a tonneau bar ? Michael S BN2, BN2 On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 3:21 PM Robert Begani wrote: > The blocker I bought is attached to the tonneau bar fixtures behind the > driver in which the tonneau bar fits into. It is the most logical and > existing fixture to use. Just behind the seats. Why try to reinvent the > wheel? Far closer to the driver than the driver side of your roll bar. > > > > Just drove 75 miles at 45-65 mph with a baseball cap on and not the > slightest movement from the wind to send it sailing. However, when I went > over the Peace River Bridge there was a 15 knot crosswind and it have blown > my heat off so I took it off. Again, the blocker I bought is perfect for > the task of blocking the wind. Love it. > > > > Bob Begani > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Len > and/or Marge Hartnett > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 7, 2020 4:31 PM > *To:* AH Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker > > > > For those contemplating building their own, be advised that the blocker > needs to be pretty close to the back or your head. > > > > I have a roll bar in my BJ8. I tried attaching a sheet of acrilic to it. > It did not work. Still got serious wind on the back of the head. The > attached photo shows what it would have looked like. It was attached with > velcro straps > > > > (The Other) Len > Fairfield, CA, USA > 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Apr 9 14:57:22 2020 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:57:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: References: <030c01d60b5b$a888b7b0$f99a2710$@gmail.com> <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> <94dfc898-1483-7c05-979d-273cfd0bd62b@comcast.net> Message-ID: *"Top up is for wussies."* *------------------------------* What was that thing we were sitting under during the two TN's we did? Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 2:35 PM Michael Salter wrote: > Top up is for wussies. > [image: image.png] > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:52 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > >> I looked into buying/building one a couple years ago; a friend and I >> until recently took a long--up to 5K miles--Healey trip every spring and >> the wind battering definitely adds to fatigue. When I discussed it with my >> friend/navigator he said not to do it; getting beaten-up by the wind was >> part of the 'experience.' >> >> The hood only comes up in hard rain, and that's mostly to keep the >> floorpans (relatively) dry. >> >> >> On 4/5/2020 8:34 AM, ahbn6--- via Healeys wrote: >> >> *Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available on >> eBay and SC Parts among others* >> >> >> >> *John Sims* >> >> *www.healey6.com * >> >> *Matawan, NJ* >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys >> *On Behalf Of *Robert Begani >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM >> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker >> >> >> >> Listers: >> >> >> >> Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind >> the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind >> blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and >> discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is >> down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all >> LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked >> them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a >> Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. >> >> >> >> In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best >> purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter >> it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 >> years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in >> the hot sun. >> >> >> >> I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts >> and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the >> top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I >> was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. >> May attach straps later to complete the seal. >> >> >> >> Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top >> down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the >> product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special >> offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. >> >> >> >> Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Bob Begani >> >> BJ8 ?67 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The next option is to modify the tonneau bar to accept a frame for the Plexiglas that will allow it to be removed and stored if I ever wanted to put the top up. However, that would require more modification to my 'wheel' and that does not look very feasible. Len ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Begani To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2020 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker The blocker I bought is attached to the tonneau bar fixtures behind the driver in which the tonneau bar fits into. It is the most logical and existing fixture to use. Just behind the seats. Why try to reinvent the wheel? Far closer to the driver than the driver side of your roll bar. Just drove 75 miles at 45-65 mph with a baseball cap on and not the slightest movement from the wind to send it sailing. However, when I went over the Peace River Bridge there was a 15 knot crosswind and it have blown my heat off so I took it off. Again, the blocker I bought is perfect for the task of blocking the wind. Love it. Bob Begani From: Healeys On Behalf Of Len and/or Marge Hartnett Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 4:31 PM To: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker For those contemplating building their own, be advised that the blocker needs to be pretty close to the back or your head. I have a roll bar in my BJ8. I tried attaching a sheet of acrilic to it. It did not work. Still got serious wind on the back of the head. The attached photo shows what it would have looked like. It was attached with velcro straps (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mirek From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Oritt Sent: April-09-20 4:57 PM To: Michael Salter Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker "Top up is for wussies." ------------------------------ What was that thing we were sitting under during the two TN's we did? Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 2:35 PM Michael Salter wrote: Top up is for wussies. image.png On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:52 PM Bob Spidell wrote: I looked into buying/building one a couple years ago; a friend and I until recently took a long--up to 5K miles--Healey trip every spring and the wind battering definitely adds to fatigue. When I discussed it with my friend/navigator he said not to do it; getting beaten-up by the wind was part of the 'experience.' The hood only comes up in hard rain, and that's mostly to keep the floorpans (relatively) dry. On 4/5/2020 8:34 AM, ahbn6--- via Healeys wrote: Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available on eBay and SC Parts among others John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Listers: Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in the hot sun. I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. May attach straps later to complete the seal. Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 ?67 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Link to catalogue: http://www.sbi-e-catalog.com/PartDetail.aspx?PartNumber=122-1387 &PartType=Valve%20Stem%20Seals They have many different products for cylinder heads: http://www.sbintl.com/ Stay safe.... Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Harold Manifold Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 6:39 PM To: 'Michael MacLean'; 'Healeys'; 'David Nock' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Valve seals Mike, The seal recommendation was made to me by the machine shop that did the head work. The seal did fit right out of the box but I believe one of the springs was removed as the older engines require more oil on the valve stem for lubrication. I will find out the part number and report back. Give me a day or two. Stay safe... Harold _____ From: Michael MacLean [mailto:rrengineer.mike at att.net] Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 6:05 PM To: 'Healeys'; 'David Nock'; Harold Manifold Subject: Re: [Healeys] Valve seals Harold, Did your modern seal fit right "out of the box"? Did you have to modify it to fit? Do you have a part number? Mike MacLean On Friday, April 3, 2020, 5:47:56 PM PDT, Harold Manifold wrote: Mike, I hate to mention this after just ordering new valve seals but you may want to consider upgrading to a modern seal. I attached on article from an MG source but it is very similar to a Healey valve stem. I put modern valve seals in my cylinder head. Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 5:19 PM To: Healeys; David Nock Subject: Re: [Healeys] Valve seals David, Just got off the phone with John. I ordered eight new seals. Turns out only two valves had seals. This head was supposed to be ready to install. Trust, but verify. Thanks. Mike M On Friday, April 3, 2020, 4:57:30 PM PDT, David Nock wrote: Yes the original valve seals are a square seal and are installed inside the lower cup. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 4:00 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Valve seals Before I put this head on the engine I am removing the outer spring to look at the seal. Can someone tell me what I am looking at here? This rebuilt head has never been installed, but been sitting for several years. I remember the round rubber disc seals that I bought for this, but are they supposed to flatten out in the cup around the valve stem like this? 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On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:52 PM Bob Spidell > wrote: I looked into buying/building one a couple years ago; a friend and I until recently took a long--up to 5K miles--Healey trip every spring and the wind battering definitely adds to fatigue. When I discussed it with my friend/navigator he said not to do it; getting beaten-up by the wind was part of the 'experience.' The hood only comes up in hard rain, and that's mostly to keep the floorpans (relatively) dry. On 4/5/2020 8:34 AM, ahbn6--- via Healeys wrote: Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available on eBay and SC Parts among others John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Listers: Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in the hot sun. I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. May attach straps later to complete the seal. Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 ?67 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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All are in good condition and fully working unless stated otherwise. Kees Oudesluijs Op 10-4-2020 om 02:51 schreef Perry via Healeys: > > Listers > > Anyone have extra (available) dash gauges for a 100?? Was just asked > about availability by a owner and I don?t have any currently. > > Thanks > > Perry > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From banjojohn at cox.net Fri Apr 10 11:11:14 2020 From: banjojohn at cox.net (banjojohn) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:11:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> Message-ID: So, can anyone tell me what they are called, or a sku for the on the Moss site?? I want to see a picture of one.ThanksJohn O'Brien'65 BJ8'61 BugeyeSent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10e. -------- Original message --------From: ahbn6--- via Healeys Date: 4/5/20 10:35 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 'Robert Begani' , healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available on eBay and SC Parts among others?John Simswww.healey6.comMatawan, NJ?From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert BeganiSent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AMTo: healeys at autox.team.netSubject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker?Listers:?Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is down.? I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all LBC, but, not the big Healey.? So I considered building my own and looked them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00.? ?In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best purchase to give comfort to my top down driving.? In Florida in the winter it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 years.? I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in the hot sun.? ?I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal.? May attach straps later to complete the seal.?Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top down.? Best toy for your Healey.? I have no interest in lbcarco.? Also, the product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau.? ?Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining.?Regards,?Bob BeganiBJ8 ?67 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Fri Apr 10 11:29:37 2020 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Robert Begani) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:29:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: <5e90a8b8.1c69fb81.7c609.a842SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> <5e90a8b8.1c69fb81.7c609.a842SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <033001d60f5d$9cccf020$d666d060$@gmail.com> Tonneau wind blocker, although they only show them for MGA, TR ETC. I do not see any for Healey. As I indicated below, I bought from lbcarco.com and they have full description and picture of installed on a big healey which gave me enough to make a purchase. Bob From: banjojohn Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 1:11 PM To: ahbn6 at verizon.net; 'Robert Begani' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker So, can anyone tell me what they are called, or a sku for the on the Moss site? I want to see a picture of one. Thanks John O'Brien '65 BJ8 '61 Bugeye Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10e. -------- Original message -------- From: ahbn6--- via Healeys > Date: 4/5/20 10:35 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 'Robert Begani' >, healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available on eBay and SC Parts among others John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Listers: Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in the hot sun. I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. May attach straps later to complete the seal. Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 ?67 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Fri Apr 10 16:03:10 2020 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 23:03:10 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker In-Reply-To: <033001d60f5d$9cccf020$d666d060$@gmail.com> References: <002601d60b5f$bfd36830$3f7a3890$@verizon.net> <5e90a8b8.1c69fb81.7c609.a842SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <033001d60f5d$9cccf020$d666d060$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d60f83$d3be8820$7b3b9860$@alexarevel.plus.com> Alright, I?ll be the first to fold. Can you please either give us the link or a picture? Thanks, Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: 10 April 2020 18:30 To: 'banjojohn' ; ahbn6 at verizon.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Tonneau wind blocker, although they only show them for MGA, TR ETC. I do not see any for Healey. As I indicated below, I bought from lbcarco.com and they have full description and picture of installed on a big healey which gave me enough to make a purchase. Bob From: banjojohn > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 1:11 PM To: ahbn6 at verizon.net ; 'Robert Begani' >; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker So, can anyone tell me what they are called, or a sku for the on the Moss site? I want to see a picture of one. Thanks John O'Brien '65 BJ8 '61 Bugeye Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10e. -------- Original message -------- From: ahbn6--- via Healeys > Date: 4/5/20 10:35 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 'Robert Begani' >, healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Moss also has one although at a higher price. They are also available on eBay and SC Parts among others John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:06 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Wind Blocker Listers: Every time I saw a newer sport convertible with a plastic shield behind the front seats, I wanted one for my Healey because after 50 MPH the wind blowing from behind is a tremendous force which will blow your hat off and discourage your female passenger from ridding with you when the top is down. I had seen that https://www.lbcarco.com had Wind blockers for all LBC, but, not the big Healey. So I considered building my own and looked them up on the site to see how they were constructed, found the now have a Wind blocker for the big Healey, and immediately ordered it for $175.00. In the past 2 days since installing Wind Blocker, it has become my best purchase to give comfort to my top down driving. In Florida in the winter it is the land of top down driving and I have not put up the top for 2 years. I may never put up the top, unless I am going hundreds of miles in the hot sun. I used a piece of ? inch PVC pipe cut to the distance between the posts and a little more so the pipe wedged between the posts and laying on the top frame holds up the Tonneau cover tightly so there is little drape. I was able to wrap and fold the Tonneau around the posts to get a good seal. May attach straps later to complete the seal. Highly recommended for those who love to drive our LBC?s with the top down. Best toy for your Healey. I have no interest in lbcarco. Also, the product is hard to find as you have to scroll down the list of special offers to find, however, it is in the search field under Tonneau. Sorry about the poor pictures in the garage, finally, it is raining. Regards, Bob Begani BJ8 ?67 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Fri Apr 10 20:17:39 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 02:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] It's always something References: <908984170.3943929.1586571459350.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <908984170.3943929.1586571459350@mail.yahoo.com> Well, for today's restoration rant I am going to talk about valve seals.? The head I bought from my late restorer friend was supposedly ready to install.? Not hardly.? I removed the valve springs to make sure all the valve seals were there.? I found o-rings on the valve stems at the valve guides and two valves even had the seal at the top right under the collets.? On initial startup of a 100M this head was on a valve bent damaging the valve guide and probably the hole in the head that the valve guide was pressed into.? I bought eight new valve guide seals from British Car Specialists a few days ago.? The box of seals came in today so I went to install them everything went fine until I got to the last valve. (the one that was replaced)? I removed the springs and found a valve guide much larger in outer diameter than the rest of the stock valve guides.? The seal will never fit over this valve guide.? Of course it's an intake valve.? It's always something.Mike MacLean Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Harold > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmari2 at verizon.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Gmari2 at verizon.net Sat Apr 11 04:37:44 2020 From: Gmari2 at verizon.net (George Marinos) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 06:37:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Dash Instrument Thread Sizes In-Reply-To: <10A06378B28E42168FF94B6C1CDFFFC1@AllInOne> References: <10A06378B28E42168FF94B6C1CDFFFC1@AllInOne> Message-ID: Harold, not sure of the thread size but i can most likely find one in my box of stuff. PM me if interested. George Sent from my iPad > On Apr 10, 2020, at 11:15 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: > > ? > Hello, > > Does anyone know the thread sizes for the knurled nuts and the terminal post to connect the wires on the back of the fuel gauge? I am missing a nut for one terminal post and a knurled nut. I am hoping they are not BSW or the even more obscure BA. Car is a 1960 AH 3000 BT7. > > Thanks... Harold > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmari2 at verizon.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sat Apr 11 06:03:04 2020 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 08:03:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Dash Instrument Thread Sizes In-Reply-To: <10A06378B28E42168FF94B6C1CDFFFC1@AllInOne> References: <10A06378B28E42168FF94B6C1CDFFFC1@AllInOne> Message-ID: <9c80b0d2-2440-b012-5491-60bdae54e509@earthlink.net> Harold, Yes, they're BA threads. The terminal nut is a brass 4BA nut and the aluminum knurled nut for the center post is 3BA. Sorry. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 4/10/20 11:14 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: > Hello, > Does anyone know?the thread sizes for the knurled nuts and the terminal > post to connect the wires?on the back of the fuel gauge? I am missing a > nut for?one?terminal post and a knurled nut. I am hoping they are not > BSW or the even more obscure BA. Car is a 1960 AH 3000 BT7. > Thanks... Harold > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From mark at bradakis.com Sat Apr 11 07:03:30 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:03:30 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Birthday Message-ID: <3400c589-926f-4bf4-ece6-cb3b43bb4755@bradakis.com> April 11th.? As many of you know, the domain team.net was officially registered on April 11, 1991, by the late Bill Caloccia.? I have been managing the mailing lists on autox.team.net since then, actually for a while before that.? I took over? from Jim Muller, who took over from Dale Cook, and I wish I had archives of those first few years.? Actually I may have some in my office, on 1/4 inch tape cassettes.? Every now and then I consider trying to revive some of the old HP-UX boxes I have to see if I can still read any of those tapes.? Maybe someday. Anyway, in the beginning I was routing everything through the servers at the University of Utah Computer Science Department, where I was employed.? When my fellow sys admins started noticing just how much network traffic there was on a certain box, my boss strongly suggested I make other arrangements.? So I went about getting a network connection at home.? Back then, it was not that easy, or cheap.? And as I recall, the first dedicated Team Net server was an HP box with one of the first 100+ megahertz CPUs, and even with a deal through HP, who worked closely with the U in those days the system set me back about $2,500.? Hardware has improved since then.? And that money didn't all come out of my pocket, I initiated a fund drive among the list members and got a great response.? Back then it was all checks in the mail, and I mailed a thank you postcard to every contributor, or at least most of them, no doubt I missed a few.? And for some time there was an annual fund drive to cover the rather high cost of having sufficient bandwidth from my house. So here it is 29 and just everybody has fast network available to them.?? I dropped the fund drives some years back, though folks do continue to contribute to the cause.? Now a few clicks in Paypal can take care of it, though some still prefer to send checks. Yep, things are different now.? And with the Covid-19 pandemic, a LOT different.? But the Team Net mailing lists are still chugging along, providing those spending more time at home a bit of distraction, entertainment or education as we keep our beloved vehicles rolling along the roads. I plan to keep it going as long as I can, who knows how many years I have left.? April 11th is also my birthday, 66 this year, and I certainly won't live forever.? And I fear that when I die, Team Net will die.? Sigh. But for now, enjoy and stay healthy. mjb. From airtightproductions at icloud.com Sat Apr 11 08:51:50 2020 From: airtightproductions at icloud.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:51:50 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Birthday Message-ID: <8a2c5268-6fc0-4802-a48d-6de55a4b99d7@me.com> Happy Birthday Mark! And .team.net! Thanks for all you do and here's to many more birthdays for all concerned and a continued celebration of the information passed along through this thread!? Cheers! Steven Kingsbury On April 11, 2020 at 6:04 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: April 11th.? As many of you know, the domain team.net was officially registered on April 11, 1991, by the late Bill Caloccia.? I have been managing the mailing lists on autox.team.net since then, actually for a while before that.? I took over? from Jim Muller, who took over from Dale Cook, and I wish I had archives of those first few years.? Actually I may have some in my office, on 1/4 inch tape cassettes.? Every now and then I consider trying to revive some of the old HP-UX boxes I have to see if I can still read any of those tapes.? Maybe someday. Anyway, in the beginning I was routing everything through the servers at the University of Utah Computer Science Department, where I was employed.? When my fellow sys admins started noticing just how much network traffic there was on a certain box, my boss strongly suggested I make other arrangements.? So I went about getting a network connection at home.? Back then, it was not that easy, or cheap.? And as I recall, the first dedicated Team Net server was an HP box with one of the first 100+ megahertz CPUs, and even with a deal through HP, who worked closely with the U in those days the system set me back about $2,500.? Hardware has improved since then.? And that money didn't all come out of my pocket, I initiated a fund drive among the list members and got a great response.? Back then it was all checks in the mail, and I mailed a thank you postcard to every contributor, or at least most of them, no doubt I missed a few.? And for some time there was an annual fund drive to cover the rather high cost of having sufficient bandwidth from my house. So here it is 29 and just everybody has fast network available to them.?? I dropped the fund drives some years back, though folks do continue to contribute to the cause.? Now a few clicks in Paypal can take care of it, though some still prefer to send checks. Yep, things are different now.? And with the Covid-19 pandemic, a LOT different.? But the Team Net mailing lists are still chugging along, providing those spending more time at home a bit of distraction, entertainment or education as we keep our beloved vehicles rolling along the roads. I plan to keep it going as long as I can, who knows how many years I have left.? April 11th is also my birthday, 66 this year, and I certainly won't live forever.? And I fear that when I die, Team Net will die.? Sigh. But for now, enjoy and stay healthy. mjb. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Sat Apr 11 08:55:59 2020 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:55:59 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Birthday In-Reply-To: <8a2c5268-6fc0-4802-a48d-6de55a4b99d7@me.com> References: <8a2c5268-6fc0-4802-a48d-6de55a4b99d7@me.com> Message-ID: Ditto ! Regards, Richard C BN7 #440 On Apr 11, 2020, at 09:52, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys wrote: ? Happy Birthday Mark! And .team.net! Thanks for all you do and here's to many more birthdays for all concerned and a continued celebration of the information passed along through this thread! Cheers! Steven Kingsbury On April 11, 2020 at 6:04 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: April 11th. As many of you know, the domain team.net was officially registered on April 11, 1991, by the late Bill Caloccia. I have been managing the mailing lists on autox.team.net since then, actually for a while before that. I took over from Jim Muller, who took over from Dale Cook, and I wish I had archives of those first few years. Actually I may have some in my office, on 1/4 inch tape cassettes. Every now and then I consider trying to revive some of the old HP-UX boxes I have to see if I can still read any of those tapes. Maybe someday. Anyway, in the beginning I was routing everything through the servers at the University of Utah Computer Science Department, where I was employed. When my fellow sys admins started noticing just how much network traffic there was on a certain box, my boss strongly suggested I make other arrangements. So I went about getting a network connection at home. Back then, it was not that easy, or cheap. And as I recall, the first dedicated Team Net server was an HP box with one of the first 100+ megahertz CPUs, and even with a deal through HP, who worked closely with the U in those days the system set me back about $2,500. Hardware has improved since then. And that money didn't all come out of my pocket, I initiated a fund drive among the list members and got a great response. Back then it was all checks in the mail, and I mailed a thank you postcard to every contributor, or at least most of them, no doubt I missed a few. And for some time there was an annual fund drive to cover the rather high cost of having sufficient bandwidth from my house. So here it is 29 and just everybody has fast network available to them. I dropped the fund drives some years back, though folks do continue to contribute to the cause. Now a few clicks in Paypal can take care of it, though some still prefer to send checks. Yep, things are different now. And with the Covid-19 pandemic, a LOT different. But the Team Net mailing lists are still chugging along, providing those spending more time at home a bit of distraction, entertainment or education as we keep our beloved vehicles rolling along the roads. I plan to keep it going as long as I can, who knows how many years I have left. April 11th is also my birthday, 66 this year, and I certainly won't live forever. And I fear that when I die, Team Net will die. Sigh. But for now, enjoy and stay healthy. mjb. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Sat Apr 11 10:37:13 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 16:37:13 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Dash Instrument Thread Sizes Message-ID: Typically, they are 4 BA threads...However, AH Spares, UK has replacements if your studs are not crossed or buggered. Hank PART NO:INS165PRODUCT NAME:THUMB NUT - smallADDITIONAL INFORMATION:DESCRIPTION: 3/8"OE PART NUMBER:17H932APPLICATION:A/RQUANTITY PER VEHICLE:A/R -----------------------------------------From: "Harold Manifold" To: "Healeys" Cc: Sent: Friday April 10 2020 8:15:27PM Subject: [Healeys] Dash Instrument Thread Sizes Hello, Does anyone know the thread sizes for the knurled nuts and the terminal post to connect the wires on the back of the fuel gauge? I am missing a nut for one terminal post and a knurled nut. I am hoping they are not BSW or the even more obscure BA. Car is a 1960 AH 3000 BT7. Thanks... 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Actually > I may have some in my office, on 1/4 inch tape cassettes. Every now and > then I consider trying to revive some of the old HP-UX boxes I have to > see if I can still read any of those tapes. Maybe someday. > > Anyway, in the beginning I was routing everything through the servers at > the University of Utah Computer Science Department, where I was > employed. When my fellow sys admins started noticing just how much > network traffic there was on a certain box, my boss strongly suggested I > make other arrangements. So I went about getting a network connection > at home. Back then, it was not that easy, or cheap. And as I recall, > the first dedicated Team Net server was an HP box with one of the first > 100+ megahertz CPUs, and even with a deal through HP, who worked closely > with the U in those days the system set me back about $2,500. Hardware > has improved since then. And that money didn't all come out of my > pocket, I initiated a fund drive among the list members and got a great > response. Back then it was all checks in the mail, and I mailed a thank > you postcard to every contributor, or at least most of them, no doubt I > missed a few. And for some time there was an annual fund drive to cover > the rather high cost of having sufficient bandwidth from my house. > > So here it is 29 and just everybody has fast network available to > them. I dropped the fund drives some years back, though folks do > continue to contribute to the cause. Now a few clicks in Paypal can > take care of it, though some still prefer to send checks. Yep, things > are different now. And with the Covid-19 pandemic, a LOT different. > But the Team Net mailing lists are still chugging along, providing those > spending more time at home a bit of distraction, entertainment or > education as we keep our beloved vehicles rolling along the roads. > > I plan to keep it going as long as I can, who knows how many years I > have left. April 11th is also my birthday, 66 this year, and I > certainly won't live forever. And I fear that when I die, Team Net will > die. Sigh. > > But for now, enjoy and stay healthy. > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Sat Apr 11 10:51:56 2020 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:51:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Wind blocker Message-ID: On the LBC website, the photo of the wind blocker on a Healey does not show the mounting bracket very well. So, I am also attaching a photo for a different car that will give you a better idea of the mounting brackets. 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Old top fit ok, but decided to get a bit anal before I put the new top on. Frame was ever so slightly wonky so I fiddled with it - slightly better, not perfect, but hopefully ok. When the top is dropped into the windscreen, the right hand side is about 1? short of where the left hand side is. Fiddled with the windscreen today and a bit better but still 3/4? short. Took a look at the frame, and I think I might have found the issue. The frame mounting point on one side or the other might be out. The attached photos show both sides. Note where the frame is in relation to the back of the door. Ignoring the fact the wood is chipped on one side and the frame needs repainting, which is correct? Thanks in advance for your help. Bob -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So onward to the next assembly problem I run into.? Head rockers installation next.? If anyone has any tips for a four cylinder head installation, now is the time to speak up.Mike MacLean On Friday, April 10, 2020, 7:26:23 PM PDT, Michael MacLean wrote: Well, for today's restoration rant I am going to talk about valve seals.? The head I bought from my late restorer friend was supposedly ready to install.? Not hardly.? I removed the valve springs to make sure all the valve seals were there.? I found o-rings on the valve stems at the valve guides and two valves even had the seal at the top right under the collets.? On initial startup of a 100M this head was on a valve bent damaging the valve guide and probably the hole in the head that the valve guide was pressed into.? I bought eight new valve guide seals from British Car Specialists a few days ago.? The box of seals came in today so I went to install them everything went fine until I got to the last valve. (the one that was replaced)? I removed the springs and found a valve guide much larger in outer diameter than the rest of the stock valve guides.? The seal will never fit over this valve guide.? Of course it's an intake valve.? It's always something.Mike MacLean Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark I raise a glass of beer in your honor With great thanks Cheers Ira Erbs Portland, OR 59 Austin Healey BN4 67 MGB 66 AH Sprite On Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 2:28 PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs wrote: > Thank you Mark for all these years. > I tuned in in the year 1993. > I worked till mid 1991 at Digital Equipment, where there was a kind of > topic pool (Vogon News), where classic cars were one of the topics. > Till 1993 I was able to keep using via a kind of backdoor. > So when that became impossible, I was advised to switch over to the mgs > list. > The list gave lots of advise messages and being active with my MG I became > experienced enough to give advise as well. > The list also enabled three meetings with fellow listers: > In January 2000 at the Longfellow Wayside Inn https://www.wayside.org/ > See http://www.ttalk.info/Tech/hans_across_the_water.htm > Later in May 2006 we met again - http://www.ttalk.info/hans2.htm > In February 2011 I went to Colorado Springs - no pictures on the web > regrettably. > But the meeting with an MG lister and his friends was great. > We had a great tour through the Garden of the Gods > https://www.gardenofgods.com/ - an amazing place to be! > So the list has been a catalyst for collecting knowledge and friends! > > Hope the list may go on for a long time still! > > Cheers Mark! > Hans > '71 BGT NRG w/w no o/d > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] Namens Mark J Bradakis via > Mgs > Verzonden: zaterdag 11 april 2020 15:15 > Aan: mgs at autox.team.net > Onderwerp: [Mgs] Birthday > > April 11th. As many of you know, the domain team.net was officially > registered on April 11, 1991, by the late Bill Caloccia. I have been > managing the mailing lists on autox.team.net since then, actually for a > while before that. I took over from Jim Muller, who took over from > Dale Cook, and I wish I had archives of those first few years. Actually > I may have some in my office, on 1/4 inch tape cassettes. Every now and > then I consider trying to revive some of the old HP-UX boxes I have to > see if I can still read any of those tapes. Maybe someday. > > Anyway, in the beginning I was routing everything through the servers at > the University of Utah Computer Science Department, where I was > employed. When my fellow sys admins started noticing just how much > network traffic there was on a certain box, my boss strongly suggested I > make other arrangements. So I went about getting a network connection > at home. Back then, it was not that easy, or cheap. And as I recall, > the first dedicated Team Net server was an HP box with one of the first > 100+ megahertz CPUs, and even with a deal through HP, who worked closely > with the U in those days the system set me back about $2,500. Hardware > has improved since then. And that money didn't all come out of my > pocket, I initiated a fund drive among the list members and got a great > response. Back then it was all checks in the mail, and I mailed a thank > you postcard to every contributor, or at least most of them, no doubt I > missed a few. And for some time there was an annual fund drive to cover > the rather high cost of having sufficient bandwidth from my house. > > So here it is 29 and just everybody has fast network available to > them. I dropped the fund drives some years back, though folks do > continue to contribute to the cause. Now a few clicks in Paypal can > take care of it, though some still prefer to send checks. Yep, things > are different now. And with the Covid-19 pandemic, a LOT different. > But the Team Net mailing lists are still chugging along, providing those > spending more time at home a bit of distraction, entertainment or > education as we keep our beloved vehicles rolling along the roads. > > I plan to keep it going as long as I can, who knows how many years I > have left. April 11th is also my birthday, 66 this year, and I > certainly won't live forever. And I fear that when I die, Team Net will > die. Sigh. > > But for now, enjoy and stay healthy. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/h.duinhoven at planet.nl > > > -- > Dit e-mailbericht is gecontroleerd op virussen met Avast antivirussoftware. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/eyera3000 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I took over? from Jim Muller, who took over from > Dale Cook, and I wish I had archives of those first few years.? > Actually I may have some in my office, on 1/4 inch tape cassettes.? > Every now and then I consider trying to revive some of the old HP-UX > boxes I have to see if I can still read any of those tapes.? Maybe > someday. > > Anyway, in the beginning I was routing everything through the servers > at the University of Utah Computer Science Department, where I was > employed.? When my fellow sys admins started noticing just how much > network traffic there was on a certain box, my boss strongly suggested > I make other arrangements.? So I went about getting a network > connection at home.? Back then, it was not that easy, or cheap.? And > as I recall, the first dedicated Team Net server was an HP box with > one of the first 100+ megahertz CPUs, and even with a deal through HP, > who worked closely with the U in those days the system set me back > about $2,500.? Hardware has improved since then.? And that money > didn't all come out of my pocket, I initiated a fund drive among the > list members and got a great response.? Back then it was all checks in > the mail, and I mailed a thank you postcard to every contributor, or > at least most of them, no doubt I missed a few.? And for some time > there was an annual fund drive to cover the rather high cost of having > sufficient bandwidth from my house. > > So here it is 29 and just everybody has fast network available to > them.?? I dropped the fund drives some years back, though folks do > continue to contribute to the cause.? Now a few clicks in Paypal can > take care of it, though some still prefer to send checks. Yep, things > are different now.? And with the Covid-19 pandemic, a LOT different.? > But the Team Net mailing lists are still chugging along, providing > those spending more time at home a bit of distraction, entertainment > or education as we keep our beloved vehicles rolling along the roads. > > I plan to keep it going as long as I can, who knows how many years I > have left.? April 11th is also my birthday, 66 this year, and I > certainly won't live forever.? And I fear that when I die, Team Net > will die.? Sigh. > > But for now, enjoy and stay healthy. > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: acollimidigdagpe.png Type: image/png Size: 17394 bytes Desc: not available URL: From vicklassen at icloud.com Sat Apr 11 22:37:02 2020 From: vicklassen at icloud.com (Vic Klassen) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:37:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Just Saying Hi... Message-ID: <287BCBB0-CD51-447D-8915-627681F3CEBA@icloud.com> Hi There, Just wanted to say Hi. This is the first time I have emailed the Healey List. I have been following it for some time and find it rather addicting. There is so much experience and technical info that is shared by the list and I thank you for that. At some time I do hope that I can share / contribute to the group also. Bringing the BJ8 out of its yearly hibernation and looking forward to some top down cruising soon. These are crazy times out there - Stay safe and healthy?. Vic - 66 BJ8 From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Apr 11 23:37:29 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:37:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Just Saying Hi... In-Reply-To: <287BCBB0-CD51-447D-8915-627681F3CEBA@icloud.com> References: <287BCBB0-CD51-447D-8915-627681F3CEBA@icloud.com> Message-ID: <5c16da49-1e37-7e0e-b1c2-578092dfe92c@comcast.net> Welcome Vic!? I've been on The List for a couple decades 'I think), and although the forums are fine the, uh, 'lack of structure' of The List is more fun IMO. Over the years, The List has become impressively self-moderated. Can you believe 'Friday Funnies' was controversial for a while?? I guess we ran out of jokes. Bob On 4/11/2020 9:37 PM, Vic Klassen via Healeys wrote: > Hi There, > Just wanted to say Hi. This is the first time I have emailed the Healey List. I have been following it for some time and find it rather addicting. There is so much experience and technical info that is shared by the list and I thank you for that. At some time I do hope that I can share / contribute to the group also. > Bringing the BJ8 out of its yearly hibernation and looking forward to some top down cruising soon. > These are crazy times out there - Stay safe and healthy?. > Vic - 66 BJ8 > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Apr 12 00:20:23 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 23:20:23 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Just Saying Hi... In-Reply-To: <5c16da49-1e37-7e0e-b1c2-578092dfe92c@comcast.net> References: <287BCBB0-CD51-447D-8915-627681F3CEBA@icloud.com> <5c16da49-1e37-7e0e-b1c2-578092dfe92c@comcast.net> Message-ID: Welcome Vic, We have lost some folks with lots of experience over the years, but I am always impressed with the arcane and mundane knowledge shared here. Happy motoring Ira Erbs Portland, OR On Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 10:38 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > Welcome Vic! I've been on The List for a couple decades 'I think), and > although the forums are fine the, uh, 'lack of structure' of The List is > more fun IMO. > > Over the years, The List has become impressively self-moderated. Can you > believe 'Friday Funnies' was controversial for a while? I guess we ran > out of jokes. > > Bob > > > On 4/11/2020 9:37 PM, Vic Klassen via Healeys wrote: > > Hi There, > > Just wanted to say Hi. This is the first time I have emailed the Healey > List. I have been following it for some time and find it rather addicting. > There is so much experience and technical info that is shared by the list > and I thank you for that. At some time I do hope that I can share / > contribute to the group also. > > Bringing the BJ8 out of its yearly hibernation and looking forward to > some top down cruising soon. > > These are crazy times out there - Stay safe and healthy?. > > Vic - 66 BJ8 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Sun Apr 12 05:54:41 2020 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 21:54:41 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] My PR for putting a Healey together In-Reply-To: <83994C14-750E-48FE-B912-7ED35FA2DDB5@yahoo.com> References: <83994C14-750E-48FE-B912-7ED35FA2DDB5.ref@yahoo.com> <83994C14-750E-48FE-B912-7ED35FA2DDB5@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <35b50f$8cl1u5@icp-osb-irony-out2.iinet.net.au> ....thanks for that William! I went to have a quick look out of curiosity & spent the next 55 mins finishing it! Cheers Peter Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: William Atterbury via Healeys Sent: Sunday, 12 April 2020 4:27 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] My PR for putting a Healey together For those stuck at home this weekend:? https://www.jigsawplanet.com/?rc=play&pid=0da652615ff6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pdzwig at summaventures.com Sun Apr 12 06:31:23 2020 From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 13:31:23 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Stirling Moss Message-ID: <4daf534c-852e-aa37-2bf8-b63eb798921d@summaventures.com> Just the greatest driver of all time. May he rest in peace. Peter -- Dr. Peter Dzwig From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 12 09:35:33 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 08:35:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Birthday In-Reply-To: <958c85d8-ac5c-8981-e70c-b767aec834c1@comcast.net> References: <3400c589-926f-4bf4-ece6-cb3b43bb4755@bradakis.com> <958c85d8-ac5c-8981-e70c-b767aec834c1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <01b2cf6b-450b-1f58-a205-0904b23acee9@comcast.net> Anybody else get this, or something like it?? I know browser 'safe-surfing' plugins aren't necessarily accurate, but I'm also curious why Norton would even think so ... has there been a breach? On 4/11/2020 9:21 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Whoa!!!?? Went to throw a few shekels at Team.net and up comes this: > > > > What gives? > > Bob > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: acollimidigdagpe.png Type: image/png Size: 17394 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sun Apr 12 10:04:39 2020 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 12:04:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Birthday In-Reply-To: <01b2cf6b-450b-1f58-a205-0904b23acee9@comcast.net> References: <3400c589-926f-4bf4-ece6-cb3b43bb4755@bradakis.com> <958c85d8-ac5c-8981-e70c-b767aec834c1@comcast.net> <01b2cf6b-450b-1f58-a205-0904b23acee9@comcast.net> Message-ID: <29a9f3bb-77be-016d-ae6e-d89d4acb040d@earthlink.net> Bob, I didn't get it, but I'm not using Norton. Don't know if Norton supports Linux or not. I went to the page and looked at the HTML. There's nothing there but text and the PayPal button. The HTML behind the PayPal button looks fine to my non-expert eyes. I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn last night. Clicking the button took me to the PayPal site. You might send your email to mjb so he's aware of the issue. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 4/12/20 11:35 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Anybody else get this, or something like it?? I know browser > 'safe-surfing' plugins aren't necessarily accurate, but I'm also curious > why Norton would even think so ... has there been a breach? > > > On 4/11/2020 9:21 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: >> Whoa!!!?? Went to throw a few shekels at Team.net and up comes this: >> >> >> >> What gives? >> >> Bob >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 12 11:13:09 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 10:13:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Birthday In-Reply-To: <29a9f3bb-77be-016d-ae6e-d89d4acb040d@earthlink.net> References: <3400c589-926f-4bf4-ece6-cb3b43bb4755@bradakis.com> <958c85d8-ac5c-8981-e70c-b767aec834c1@comcast.net> <01b2cf6b-450b-1f58-a205-0904b23acee9@comcast.net> <29a9f3bb-77be-016d-ae6e-d89d4acb040d@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Thanks Bob and Perry.? I suspected as much; anti-virus/malware software has always been hit-or-miss, and the developers usually err on the suspicious side.? Of course, too many 'false positives' leads to people disregarding the warnings, which makes the problem worse. And they're usually 'fighting the last war again.' Bob On 4/12/2020 9:04 AM, Bob Haskell wrote: > Bob, > > I didn't get it, but I'm not using Norton.? Don't know if Norton > supports Linux or not.? I went to the page and looked at the HTML. > There's nothing there but text and the PayPal button.? The HTML behind > the PayPal button looks fine to my non-expert eyes. I didn't sleep at > a Holiday Inn last night. Clicking the button took me to the PayPal site. > > You might send your email to mjb so he's aware of the issue. > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > > On 4/12/20 11:35 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: >> Anybody else get this, or something like it?? I know browser >> 'safe-surfing' plugins aren't necessarily accurate, but I'm also >> curious why Norton would even think so ... has there been a breach? >> >> >> On 4/11/2020 9:21 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: >>> Whoa!!!?? Went to throw a few shekels at Team.net and up comes this: >>> >>> >>> >>> What gives? >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net >> From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sun Apr 12 12:06:16 2020 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 19:06:16 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Stirling Moss Obit Message-ID: <000001d610f5$10e7b1a0$32b714e0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Don't know if this link will work everywhere. Sad. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/52260896 Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Today's Topics: 1. My PR for putting a Healey together (William Atterbury) 2. BJ8 Top Frame (Engl) 3. Re: It's always something (Michael MacLean) 4. Re: [Mgs] Birthday (i erbs) 5. Re: Birthday (Bob Spidell) 6. Just Saying Hi... (Vic Klassen) 7. Re: Just Saying Hi... (Bob Spidell) 8. Re: Just Saying Hi... (i erbs) 9. Re: My PR for putting a Healey together (Peter & Veronica) 10. Stirling Moss (Peter Dzwig) 11. Re: Birthday (Bob Spidell) 12. Re: Birthday (Bob Haskell) 13. 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Not a necessity on the exhaust valves. So onward to the next assembly problem I run into.? Head rockers installation next.? If anyone has any tips for a four cylinder head installation, now is the time to speak up.Mike MacLean On Friday, April 10, 2020, 7:26:23 PM PDT, Michael MacLean wrote: Well, for today's restoration rant I am going to talk about valve seals.? The head I bought from my late restorer friend was supposedly ready to install.? Not hardly.? I removed the valve springs to make sure all the valve seals were there.? I found o-rings on the valve stems at the valve guides and two valves even had the seal at the top right under the collets.? On initial startup of a 100M this head was on a valve bent damaging the valve guide and probably the hole in the head that the valve guide was pressed into.? I bought eight new valve guide seals from British Car Specialists a few days ago.? The box of seals came in today so I went to install them everything went fine until I got to the last valve. (the one that was replaced)? I removed the springs and found a valve guide much larger in outer diameter than the rest of the stock valve guides.? The seal will never fit over this valve guide.? Of course it's an intake valve.? 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Mark I raise a glass of beer in your honor With great thanks Cheers Ira Erbs Portland, OR 59 Austin Healey BN4 67 MGB 66 AH Sprite On Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 2:28 PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs wrote: > Thank you Mark for all these years. > I tuned in in the year 1993. > I worked till mid 1991 at Digital Equipment, where there was a kind of > topic pool (Vogon News), where classic cars were one of the topics. > Till 1993 I was able to keep using via a kind of backdoor. > So when that became impossible, I was advised to switch over to the > mgs list. > The list gave lots of advise messages and being active with my MG I > became experienced enough to give advise as well. > The list also enabled three meetings with fellow listers: > In January 2000 at the Longfellow Wayside Inn > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > wayside.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cb > b16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C > 637223113128776534&sdata=ukqEOWtK8tSeggkNbWaeOFs0ZX9dTpoNfZgrrIdvj > Cc%3D&reserved=0 See > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > talk.info%2FTech%2Fhans_across_the_water.htm&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40 > gavinassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44 > a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128776534&sdata=k%2Fhb3y4UU > WOCV7mGhaOePfDGubfsyfj8qpT%2Bt2FHz8U%3D&reserved=0 > Later in May 2006 we met again - > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > talk.info%2Fhans2.htm&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb > 2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0 > %7C0%7C637223113128776534&sdata=N55PErYxn5XujMCfx1qo7Qx1m2bQCSA1zn > m4o10avnk%3D&reserved=0 In February 2011 I went to Colorado > Springs - no pictures on the web regrettably. > But the meeting with an MG lister and his friends was great. > We had a great tour through the Garden of the Gods > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gardenofgods.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128776534&sdata=n5ZujJonCMza%2FCdRzpDlZkc46defFEx%2FSk2AHYdstFE%3D&reserved=0 - an amazing place to be! > So the list has been a catalyst for collecting knowledge and friends! > > Hope the list may go on for a long time still! > > Cheers Mark! > Hans > '71 BGT NRG w/w no o/d > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] Namens Mark J Bradakis > via Mgs > Verzonden: zaterdag 11 april 2020 15:15 > Aan: mgs at autox.team.net > Onderwerp: [Mgs] Birthday > > April 11th. As many of you know, the domain team.net was officially > registered on April 11, 1991, by the late Bill Caloccia. I have been > managing the mailing lists on autox.team.net since then, actually for > a while before that. I took over from Jim Muller, who took over from > Dale Cook, and I wish I had archives of those first few years. > Actually I may have some in my office, on 1/4 inch tape cassettes. > Every now and then I consider trying to revive some of the old HP-UX > boxes I have to see if I can still read any of those tapes. Maybe someday. > > Anyway, in the beginning I was routing everything through the servers > at the University of Utah Computer Science Department, where I was > employed. When my fellow sys admins started noticing just how much > network traffic there was on a certain box, my boss strongly suggested > I make other arrangements. So I went about getting a network > connection at home. Back then, it was not that easy, or cheap. And > as I recall, the first dedicated Team Net server was an HP box with > one of the first > 100+ megahertz CPUs, and even with a deal through HP, who worked > 100+ closely > with the U in those days the system set me back about $2,500. > Hardware has improved since then. And that money didn't all come out > of my pocket, I initiated a fund drive among the list members and got > a great response. Back then it was all checks in the mail, and I > mailed a thank you postcard to every contributor, or at least most of > them, no doubt I missed a few. And for some time there was an annual > fund drive to cover the rather high cost of having sufficient bandwidth from my house. > > So here it is 29 and just everybody has fast network available to > them. I dropped the fund drives some years back, though folks do > continue to contribute to the cause. Now a few clicks in Paypal can > take care of it, though some still prefer to send checks. Yep, things > are different now. And with the Covid-19 pandemic, a LOT different. > But the Team Net mailing lists are still chugging along, providing > those spending more time at home a bit of distraction, entertainment > or education as we keep our beloved vehicles rolling along the roads. > > I plan to keep it going as long as I can, who knows how many years I > have left. April 11th is also my birthday, 66 this year, and I > certainly won't live forever. And I fear that when I die, Team Net > will die. Sigh. > > But for now, enjoy and stay healthy. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > eam.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb > 2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0 > %7C0%7C637223113128776534&sdata=Od1w9fD0FbmQzkRJ70Fd5hZ7SkDmbprjPG > r2YEfSa2g%3D&reserved=0 > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > eam.net%2Fpipermail%2Fmgs&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com > %7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234 > %7C0%7C0%7C637223113128776534&sdata=R%2B1PCWGxzE3q1n%2F0Md850ca8L6 > ZL%2Bn1mPel%2BuuNez3w%3D&reserved=0 > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2b > d74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7 > C0%7C637223113128776534&sdata=%2B0s17YJoQkavTRTSZrqvzGs5jh9JeqMKe9 > dyE2%2FbVjg%3D&reserved=0 > > Unsubscribe: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fmgs%2Fh.duinhoven%40planet.nl&data > =02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e8 > 6%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128776534& > sdata=iK9uCYPEf4Z64kcXG79QmEGGRQdMOdyZ%2Bcy%2F%2Bz8dH0E%3D&reserve > d=0 > > > -- > Dit e-mailbericht is gecontroleerd op virussen met Avast antivirussoftware. > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > avast.com%2Fantivirus&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb > 2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0 > %7C0%7C637223113128776534&sdata=jCZy65MvPfe05S6r%2BA0cpGgYmlv96var > cVUVl0ZDvCk%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > eam.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb > 2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0 > %7C0%7C637223113128776534&sdata=Od1w9fD0FbmQzkRJ70Fd5hZ7SkDmbprjPG > r2YEfSa2g%3D&reserved=0 > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > eam.net%2Fpipermail%2Fmgs&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com > %7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234 > %7C0%7C0%7C637223113128776534&sdata=R%2B1PCWGxzE3q1n%2F0Md850ca8L6 > ZL%2Bn1mPel%2BuuNez3w%3D&reserved=0 > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2b > d74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7 > C0%7C637223113128776534&sdata=%2B0s17YJoQkavTRTSZrqvzGs5jh9JeqMKe9 > dyE2%2FbVjg%3D&reserved=0 > > Unsubscribe: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fmgs%2Feyera3000%40gmail.com&data=0 > 2%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86% > 7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128776534&sd > ata=XZaqNDGJQZTFbvGbfxXvuVRR7dzAuIZvAnyHGDhgNTo%3D&reserved=0 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:21:33 -0700 From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Birthday Message-ID: <958c85d8-ac5c-8981-e70c-b767aec834c1 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Whoa!!!?? Went to throw a few shekels at Team.net and up comes this: What gives? Bob On 4/11/2020 6:03 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > April 11th.? As many of you know, the domain team.net was officially > registered on April 11, 1991, by the late Bill Caloccia.? I have been > managing the mailing lists on autox.team.net since then, actually for > a while before that.? I took over? from Jim Muller, who took over from > Dale Cook, and I wish I had archives of those first few years.? > Actually I may have some in my office, on 1/4 inch tape cassettes.? > Every now and then I consider trying to revive some of the old HP-UX > boxes I have to see if I can still read any of those tapes.? Maybe > someday. > > Anyway, in the beginning I was routing everything through the servers > at the University of Utah Computer Science Department, where I was > employed.? When my fellow sys admins started noticing just how much > network traffic there was on a certain box, my boss strongly suggested > I make other arrangements.? So I went about getting a network > connection at home.? Back then, it was not that easy, or cheap.? And > as I recall, the first dedicated Team Net server was an HP box with > one of the first 100+ megahertz CPUs, and even with a deal through HP, > who worked closely with the U in those days the system set me back > about $2,500.? Hardware has improved since then.? And that money > didn't all come out of my pocket, I initiated a fund drive among the > list members and got a great response.? Back then it was all checks in > the mail, and I mailed a thank you postcard to every contributor, or > at least most of them, no doubt I missed a few.? And for some time > there was an annual fund drive to cover the rather high cost of having > sufficient bandwidth from my house. > > So here it is 29 and just everybody has fast network available to > them.?? I dropped the fund drives some years back, though folks do > continue to contribute to the cause.? Now a few clicks in Paypal can > take care of it, though some still prefer to send checks. Yep, things > are different now.? And with the Covid-19 pandemic, a LOT different.? > But the Team Net mailing lists are still chugging along, providing > those spending more time at home a bit of distraction, entertainment > or education as we keep our beloved vehicles rolling along the roads. > > I plan to keep it going as long as I can, who knows how many years I > have left.? April 11th is also my birthday, 66 this year, and I > certainly won't live forever.? And I fear that when I die, Team Net > will die.? Sigh. > > But for now, enjoy and stay healthy. > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > eam.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb > 2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0 > %7C0%7C637223113128786528&sdata=91s9dMtLEX0PY60mQLhDfONvEsusU2pJ14 > ZTvGX8w0k%3D&reserved=0 > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > eam.net%2Fpipermail%2Fhealeys&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates > .com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a0 > 5234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128786528&sdata=uy8yb0ZG7emX%2F4cMYeJfi%2B > HswccBr8YtOm08UcQxhR8%3D&reserved=0 > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2b > d74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7 > C0%7C637223113128786528&sdata=fK5V44MLe2NWO72WVrLr%2Fd43oBDOBBCKFj > AWS2N97J0%3D&reserved=0 > > Healeys at autox.team.net > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhealeys&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavi > nassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9 > 885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128786528&sdata=kxcJIakD1LZITmp > UuY75ILUM9R00dh1Y8Nm3cGwF44g%3D&reserved=0 > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fhealeys%2Fbspidell%40comcast.net&d > ata=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b > 8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128786528&a > mp;sdata=mK8kDsVbGp8BoW5ZGPR%2BZYzoCjw1HHEvLdr2i11kJaI%3D&reserved > =0 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Vic - 66 BJ8 ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:37:29 -0700 From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Just Saying Hi... Message-ID: <5c16da49-1e37-7e0e-b1c2-578092dfe92c at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Welcome Vic!? I've been on The List for a couple decades 'I think), and although the forums are fine the, uh, 'lack of structure' of The List is more fun IMO. Over the years, The List has become impressively self-moderated. Can you believe 'Friday Funnies' was controversial for a while?? I guess we ran out of jokes. Bob On 4/11/2020 9:37 PM, Vic Klassen via Healeys wrote: > Hi There, > Just wanted to say Hi. This is the first time I have emailed the Healey List. I have been following it for some time and find it rather addicting. There is so much experience and technical info that is shared by the list and I thank you for that. At some time I do hope that I can share / contribute to the group also. > Bringing the BJ8 out of its yearly hibernation and looking forward to some top down cruising soon. > These are crazy times out there - Stay safe and healthy?. > Vic - 66 BJ8 > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > eam.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb > 2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0 > %7C0%7C637223113128786528&sdata=91s9dMtLEX0PY60mQLhDfONvEsusU2pJ14 > ZTvGX8w0k%3D&reserved=0 > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > eam.net%2Fpipermail%2Fhealeys&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates > .com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a0 > 5234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128786528&sdata=uy8yb0ZG7emX%2F4cMYeJfi%2B > HswccBr8YtOm08UcQxhR8%3D&reserved=0 > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2b > d74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7 > C0%7C637223113128786528&sdata=fK5V44MLe2NWO72WVrLr%2Fd43oBDOBBCKFj > AWS2N97J0%3D&reserved=0 > > Healeys at autox.team.net > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhealeys&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavi > nassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9 > 885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128786528&sdata=kxcJIakD1LZITmp > UuY75ILUM9R00dh1Y8Nm3cGwF44g%3D&reserved=0 > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fhealeys%2Fbspidell%40comcast.net&d > ata=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b > 8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128786528&a > mp;sdata=mK8kDsVbGp8BoW5ZGPR%2BZYzoCjw1HHEvLdr2i11kJaI%3D&reserved > =0 > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 23:20:23 -0700 From: i erbs Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Just Saying Hi... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Welcome Vic, We have lost some folks with lots of experience over the years, but I am always impressed with the arcane and mundane knowledge shared here. Happy motoring Ira Erbs Portland, OR On Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 10:38 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > Welcome Vic! I've been on The List for a couple decades 'I think), > and although the forums are fine the, uh, 'lack of structure' of The > List is more fun IMO. > > Over the years, The List has become impressively self-moderated. Can > you believe 'Friday Funnies' was controversial for a while? I guess > we ran out of jokes. > > Bob > > > On 4/11/2020 9:37 PM, Vic Klassen via Healeys wrote: > > Hi There, > > Just wanted to say Hi. This is the first time I have emailed the > > Healey > List. I have been following it for some time and find it rather addicting. > There is so much experience and technical info that is shared by the > list and I thank you for that. At some time I do hope that I can share > / contribute to the group also. > > Bringing the BJ8 out of its yearly hibernation and looking forward > > to > some top down cruising soon. > > These are crazy times out there - Stay safe and healthy?. > > Vic - 66 BJ8 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww > > .team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com > > %7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a052 > > 34%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128786528&sdata=91s9dMtLEX0PY60mQLhDfONvEs > > usU2pJ14ZTvGX8w0k%3D&reserved=0 > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww > > .team.net%2Fpipermail%2Fhealeys&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassoci > > ates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2 > > e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128786528&sdata=uy8yb0ZG7emX%2F4cM > > YeJfi%2BHswccBr8YtOm08UcQxhR8%3D&reserved=0 > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2b > d74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7 > C0%7C637223113128786528&sdata=fK5V44MLe2NWO72WVrLr%2Fd43oBDOBBCKFj > AWS2N97J0%3D&reserved=0 > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faut > > ox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhealeys&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40 > > gavinassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c > > 44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128786528&sdata=kxcJIak > > D1LZITmpUuY75ILUM9R00dh1Y8Nm3cGwF44g%3D&reserved=0 > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fhealeys%2Fbspidell%40comcast.net&d > ata=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b > 8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128786528&a > mp;sdata=mK8kDsVbGp8BoW5ZGPR%2BZYzoCjw1HHEvLdr2i11kJaI%3D&reserved > =0 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > eam.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb > 2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0 > %7C0%7C637223113128796526&sdata=0X99kE1GLmh3xzjrq2kstTnbwjuFX4c50q > KQXgS%2BhoU%3D&reserved=0 > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > eam.net%2Fpipermail%2Fhealeys&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates > .com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a0 > 5234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128796526&sdata=KLWrYdCnHSPGS8J3Urgi7p3XRk > NKW4eutRmqpQhx5%2FQ%3D&reserved=0 > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2b > d74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7 > C0%7C637223113128796526&sdata=Llca6N7vUbRFJzKbPORyfC0vrzT%2Fce8axT > HKPKaRl%2Bc%3D&reserved=0 > > Healeys at autox.team.net > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhealeys&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavi > nassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9 > 885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128796526&sdata=MnfnPC%2Bzhh7ZD > ndwqEv%2BUWwoaYvQGbTyYG4C2ZVUPRw%3D&reserved=0 > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fhealeys%2Feyera3000%40gmail.com&da > ta=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8 > e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128796526&am > p;sdata=2r%2FkkTA%2B8KDhgYRSWvrq8XhxvpUa8PKKknSBZYkC%2BbM%3D&reser > ved=0 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Peter Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: William Atterbury via Healeys Sent: Sunday, 12 April 2020 4:27 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] My PR for putting a Healey together For those stuck at home this weekend:? https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jigsawplanet.com%2F%3Frc%3Dplay%26pid%3D0da652615ff6&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128796526&sdata=p4Wif8viQDTVaE92N%2Fl9d90SBb6cLr2fi0id1UDE1SY%3D&reserved=0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 13:31:23 +0100 From: Peter Dzwig To: 'healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Stirling Moss Message-ID: <4daf534c-852e-aa37-2bf8-b63eb798921d at summaventures.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Just the greatest driver of all time. May he rest in peace. Peter -- Dr. Peter Dzwig ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 08:35:33 -0700 From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Birthday Message-ID: <01b2cf6b-450b-1f58-a205-0904b23acee9 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Anybody else get this, or something like it?? I know browser 'safe-surfing' plugins aren't necessarily accurate, but I'm also curious why Norton would even think so ... has there been a breach? On 4/11/2020 9:21 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Whoa!!!?? Went to throw a few shekels at Team.net and up comes this: > > > > What gives? > > Bob > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: acollimidigdagpe.png Type: image/png Size: 17394 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 12:04:39 -0400 From: Bob Haskell To: Bob Spidell , healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Birthday Message-ID: <29a9f3bb-77be-016d-ae6e-d89d4acb040d at earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Bob, I didn't get it, but I'm not using Norton. Don't know if Norton supports Linux or not. I went to the page and looked at the HTML. There's nothing there but text and the PayPal button. The HTML behind the PayPal button looks fine to my non-expert eyes. I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn last night. Clicking the button took me to the PayPal site. You might send your email to mjb so he's aware of the issue. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 4/12/20 11:35 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Anybody else get this, or something like it?? I know browser > 'safe-surfing' plugins aren't necessarily accurate, but I'm also > curious why Norton would even think so ... has there been a breach? > > > On 4/11/2020 9:21 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: >> Whoa!!!?? Went to throw a few shekels at Team.net and up comes this: >> >> >> >> What gives? >> >> Bob >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > eam.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb > 2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0 > %7C0%7C637223113128796526&sdata=0X99kE1GLmh3xzjrq2kstTnbwjuFX4c50q > KQXgS%2BhoU%3D&reserved=0 > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > eam.net%2Fpipermail%2Fhealeys&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates > .com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a0 > 5234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128796526&sdata=KLWrYdCnHSPGS8J3Urgi7p3XRk > NKW4eutRmqpQhx5%2FQ%3D&reserved=0 > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Farchive&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2b > d74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7 > C0%7C637223113128796526&sdata=Llca6N7vUbRFJzKbPORyfC0vrzT%2Fce8axT > HKPKaRl%2Bc%3D&reserved=0 > > Healeys at autox.team.net > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhealeys&data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavi > nassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7df0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9 > 885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C637223113128796526&sdata=MnfnPC%2Bzhh7ZD > ndwqEv%2BUWwoaYvQGbTyYG4C2ZVUPRw%3D&reserved=0 > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox > .team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fhealeys%2Frchaskell%40earthlink.net&am > p;data=02%7C01%7Cdjg%40gavinassociates.com%7Cb2bd74cbb16e4e07d2bc08d7d > f0b8e86%7C8aeda919e4c44a4a9885c2e534a05234%7C0%7C0%7C63722311312879652 > 6&sdata=WV%2BprXGCYQpKsgVEjESS%2BynW2Y1D9xuJ%2BQCpTjqFOVM%3D&r > eserved=0 > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 10:13:09 -0700 From: Bob Spidell To: Bob Haskell , healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Birthday Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Thanks Bob and Perry.? I suspected as much; anti-virus/malware software has always been hit-or-miss, and the developers usually err on the suspicious side.? Of course, too many 'false positives' leads to people disregarding the warnings, which makes the problem worse. And they're usually 'fighting the last war again.' Bob On 4/12/2020 9:04 AM, Bob Haskell wrote: > Bob, > > I didn't get it, but I'm not using Norton.? Don't know if Norton > supports Linux or not.? I went to the page and looked at the HTML. > There's nothing there but text and the PayPal button.? The HTML behind > the PayPal button looks fine to my non-expert eyes. I didn't sleep at > a Holiday Inn last night. Clicking the button took me to the PayPal site. > > You might send your email to mjb so he's aware of the issue. > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar > > On 4/12/20 11:35 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: >> Anybody else get this, or something like it?? I know browser >> 'safe-surfing' plugins aren't necessarily accurate, but I'm also >> curious why Norton would even think so ... has there been a breach? >> >> >> On 4/11/2020 9:21 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: >>> Whoa!!!?? 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This gentleman is why they called it the ?Greatest Generation.? *An 18 year-old just out of high school was trained to take pictures of damage done to German targets* *by B-17s. He flew in a British Spitfire fitted with extra fuel tanks where the guns were. In other words, he flew over Germany unarmed. This is probably one of the best WWII film clips out there. Stored for 61 years in two suitcases of 16 mm home movies that were inherited by filmmaker William Lorton from his great uncle who served as a Flight Surgeon. Those suitcases contained 3 hours of war footage that included a compelling crash landing of a Spitfire in 1944* *Filmed in a 2005 interview with the now 83 year old pilot and seeing the expression on his face when he realizes it is him in the cockpit, is something you won't soon forget.* *At 18 years old, he was all alone, behind enemy lines, with no guns, no escort, and he gladly did it.* *They just don't make them like that anymore. It was truly the greatest generation and we owe them so much.* *Click this link:* *American Spitfire Pilot in WWII * Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 12 20:27:12 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 19:27:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Film about an early Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Excellent!? Thanks Ira. Bob On 4/12/2020 5:33 PM, i erbs wrote: > > WW II Recon Pilot. > > This gentleman is why they called it the ?Greatest Generation.? > > *An 18 year-old just out of high school was trained to > take pictures of damage done to German targets**by > B-17s. He flew in a British Spitfire fitted with extra > fuel tanks where the guns were. In other words, he > flew over Germany unarmed.? This is probably one of > the best WWII film clips out there. Stored for 61 > years in two suitcases of 16 mm home movies that were > inherited by filmmaker William Lorton from his great > uncle who served as a Flight Surgeon. Those suitcases > contained 3 hours of war footage that included a > compelling crash landing of a Spitfire in 1944* > > *Filmed in a 2005 interview with the now 83 year old > pilot and seeing the expression on his face when he > realizes it is him in the cockpit, is something you > won't soon forget.* > > *At 18 years old, he was all alone, behind enemy > lines, with no guns, no escort, and he gladly did it.* > > *They just don't make them like that anymore. It was > truly the greatest generation and we owe them so much.* > > *Click this link:**American Spitfire Pilot in WWII > * > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > ? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB MG > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Sun Apr 12 22:48:37 2020 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 14:48:37 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Film about an early Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fantastic thanks Ira! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: i erbs Sent: Monday, 13 April 2020 10:34 AM To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] Film about an early Spitfire WW II Recon Pilot. ? ? This gentleman is why they called it the ?Greatest Generation.? ? ? An 18 year-old just out of high school was trained to take pictures of damage done to German targets??by B-17s. He flew in a British Spitfire fitted with extra fuel tanks where the guns were. In other words, he flew over Germany unarmed.? This is probably one of the best WWII film clips out there. Stored for 61 years in two suitcases of 16 mm home movies that were inherited by filmmaker William Lorton from his great uncle who served as a Flight Surgeon. Those suitcases contained 3 hours of war footage that included a compelling crash landing of a Spitfire in 1944 Filmed in a 2005 interview with the now 83 year old pilot and seeing the expression on his face when he realizes it is him in the cockpit, is something you won't soon forget. At 18 years old, he was all alone, behind enemy lines, with no guns, no escort, and he gladly did it. They just don't make them like that anymore. It was truly the greatest generation and we owe them so much. ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Click this link:???American Spitfire Pilot in WWII Ira Erbs Portland,OR ? ? ? _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______ ? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) ? ? ? ?? (_________________________) ? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB ? A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. 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URL: From wkollar at nycap.rr.com Mon Apr 13 07:31:33 2020 From: wkollar at nycap.rr.com (Bill Kollar) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 09:31:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Film about an early Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1a884cb8-1d4b-f475-6972-ceb660a94a8a@nycap.rr.com> * **Terrific Video about a Terrific Very Unassuming Gentleman.** ** **A Courageous member of the Greatest Generation !** ** * ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 4/12/2020 8:33 PM, i erbs wrote: > > WW II Recon Pilot. > > This gentleman is why they called it the ?Greatest Generation.? > > *An 18 year-old just out of high school was trained to > take pictures of damage done to German targets**by > B-17s. He flew in a British Spitfire fitted with extra > fuel tanks where the guns were. In other words, he > flew over Germany unarmed.? This is probably one of > the best WWII film clips out there. Stored for 61 > years in two suitcases of 16 mm home movies that were > inherited by filmmaker William Lorton from his great > uncle who served as a Flight Surgeon. Those suitcases > contained 3 hours of war footage that included a > compelling crash landing of a Spitfire in 1944* > > *Filmed in a 2005 interview with the now 83 year old > pilot and seeing the expression on his face when he > realizes it is him in the cockpit, is something you > won't soon forget.* > > *At 18 years old, he was all alone, behind enemy > lines, with no guns, no escort, and he gladly did it.* > > *They just don't make them like that anymore. It was > truly the greatest generation and we owe them so much.* > > *Click this link:**American Spitfire Pilot in WWII > * > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > ? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB MG > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/wkollar at nycap.rr.com > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Apr 13 08:07:50 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 10:07:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] sump gasket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Morning Ira. Your post caused a moment of contemplation. In days gone by, were the oil pan oil capacities increased, as were many cars, to compensate for high volume oil pumps, or to add more volume to allow the oil to maintain a slightly cooler temperature or some other reason? Manybe multiple reasons?.. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: i erbs Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:11 AM To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] sump gasket anyone have a sum gasket for a 6 cyl engine for sale? I have been using a sump from a race car and I have decided to go back to my stock pan. I just need to knock some dents out of it. Long story...? But basically, tired of putting 9 quarts in it at oil change. Ira Erbs Portland,OR ? ? ? _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______ ? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) ? ? ? ?? (_________________________) ? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB ? A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Apr 13 08:07:50 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 10:07:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] sump gasket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Morning Ira. Your post caused a moment of contemplation. In days gone by, were the oil pan oil capacities increased, as were many cars, to compensate for high volume oil pumps, or to add more volume to allow the oil to maintain a slightly cooler temperature or some other reason? Manybe multiple reasons?.. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: i erbs Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:11 AM To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] sump gasket anyone have a sum gasket for a 6 cyl engine for sale? I have been using a sump from a race car and I have decided to go back to my stock pan. I just need to knock some dents out of it. Long story...? But basically, tired of putting 9 quarts in it at oil change. Ira Erbs Portland,OR ? ? ? _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______ ? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) ? ? ? ?? (_________________________) ? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB ? A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 67healey at gmail.com Mon Apr 13 14:15:20 2020 From: 67healey at gmail.com (Healey) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:15:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: <820A6880-1C59-430F-A6FB-72C0F4463F1B@schoerner.se> References: <820A6880-1C59-430F-A6FB-72C0F4463F1B@schoerner.se> Message-ID: Just an fyi, so that other folks don't bother the Bienz family - I just emailed Oliver this am to ask about getting my speedo fixed, and apparently he passed away suddenly in January :-( Any other suggestions? Or is there a good diy guide somewhere? The Anthony Rhodes guide is ok - except it leaves out one small & initial critical detail - how to get the trip odometer shaft & knob off. http://www.szott.ca/lotusinfo/Smith-jaeger_speedo_repair.pdf TIA, Neil On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 3:10 AM Per Schoerner wrote: > George Marinos, wanna swap it for an MPH one? Please send me an email . > > Best Regards, Per Schoerner > > > Skickat fr?n min iPhone > > 29 okt. 2019 kl. 02:40 skrev George Marinos via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net>: > > ?Make sure your comparing apples for apples. There are alot of variables > and levels of ?restoration?. I have not done business with either of those > companies, only Nisonger?s many years ago. Let us know what you decide and > the end result. I have a KPH Speedometer that I am considering getting > restored. > George > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Michael MacLean > wrote: > > ?I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that > froze up. So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other. > MoMa quoted $175. I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock > when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375! Usually I don't let price alone > determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the > determining factor. > Mike MacLean > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmari2 at verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/per at schoerner.se > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/67healey at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards, Per Schoerner Skickat fr?n min iPhone 29 okt. 2019 kl. 02:40 skrev George Marinos via Healeys : ?Make sure your comparing apples for apples.? There are alot of variables and levels of ?restoration?.? I have not done business with either of those companies, only Nisonger?s many years ago.? Let us know what you decide and the end result.? I have a KPH Speedometer that I am considering getting restored. George Sent from my iPad On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: ?I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that froze up.? So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other.? MoMa quoted $175.? I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375!? Usually I don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the determining factor. 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From: R F BEGANI Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 5:53 PM To: Healey; Per Schoerner Cc: Healey Email list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration ? My Speedo for BJ8 just stopped working after installing new angle drive and cable. Need to have it rebuilt.? Who is mom's and Nisongers? Bob Begani On April 13, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Healey <67healey at gmail.com> wrote: Just an fyi, so that other folks don't bother the Bienz family -? I just emailed Oliver this am to ask about getting my speedo fixed, and apparently he passed away suddenly in January :-( ? Any other suggestions? Or is there a good diy guide somewhere? The Anthony Rhodes guide is ok - except it leaves out one small & initial critical detail - how to get the trip odometer shaft & knob off. http://www.szott.ca/lotusinfo/Smith-jaeger_speedo_repair.pdf? ? TIA, ? Neil ? On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 3:10 AM Per Schoerner wrote: George Marinos, wanna swap it for an MPH one? Please send me an email . ? Best Regards, Per Schoerner ? Skickat fr?n min iPhone 29 okt. 2019 kl. 02:40 skrev George Marinos via Healeys : ?Make sure your comparing apples for apples.? There are alot of variables and levels of ?restoration?.? I have not done business with either of those companies, only Nisonger?s many years ago.? Let us know what you decide and the end result.? I have a KPH Speedometer that I am considering getting restored. George Sent from my iPad On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: ?I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that froze up.? So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other.? MoMa quoted $175.? I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375!? Usually I don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the determining factor. 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I would be on the phone to the supplier and get their recommendation and assurance that their pump will last more than a couple driving seasons. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Michael MacLean Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:47 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Water Pump Lubrication Here is a picture of the uprated water pump I want to install to my 4 cylinder build.? As you can see in the picture I have circled the zerk fitting for lubrication.? The other circle is around a flush hex plug at the top of the pump.? I can see both of these points are in different planes.? Does that mean there are two lubrication points?? How often should the pump be lubricated?? Just a few questions before I yank the County brand new water pump that was put on during the short block build.? Not really a fan of County brand anything. Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Or is there a good diy guide > somewhere? The Anthony Rhodes guide is ok - except it leaves out one > small & initial critical detail - how to get the trip odometer shaft & > knob off. > http://www.szott.ca/lotusinfo/Smith-jaeger_speedo_repair.pdf > > TIA, > > Neil > From manifold at telus.net Mon Apr 13 19:55:38 2020 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 18:55:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: References: <820A6880-1C59-430F-A6FB-72C0F4463F1B@schoerner.se> Message-ID: I am sad to learn Oliver Bienz passed away. He repaired all 4 of the gauges on my BT7 a few years ago and did a great job. He was a skilled watch maker and branched out into instrument repair as time pieces went electronic. His skills will be hard to replace Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Healey Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 1:15 PM To: Per Schoerner Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration Just an fyi, so that other folks don't bother the Bienz family - I just emailed Oliver this am to ask about getting my speedo fixed, and apparently he passed away suddenly in January :-( Any other suggestions? Or is there a good diy guide somewhere? The Anthony Rhodes guide is ok - except it leaves out one small & initial critical detail - how to get the trip odometer shaft & knob off. http://www.szott.ca/lotusinfo/Smith-jaeger_speedo_repair.pdf TIA, Neil On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 3:10 AM Per Schoerner wrote: George Marinos, wanna swap it for an MPH one? Please send me an email . Best Regards, Per Schoerner Skickat fr?n min iPhone 29 okt. 2019 kl. 02:40 skrev George Marinos via Healeys : ?Make sure your comparing apples for apples. There are alot of variables and levels of ?restoration?. I have not done business with either of those companies, only Nisonger?s many years ago. Let us know what you decide and the end result. I have a KPH Speedometer that I am considering getting restored. George Sent from my iPad On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: ?I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that froze up. So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other. MoMa quoted $175. I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375! Usually I don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the determining factor. 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Been around foe a very long time. I have used them when I had a active restoration business many times. You can get most of the background at: http://nisonger.com/ Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: R F BEGANI Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 5:53 PM To: Healey ; Per Schoerner Cc: Healey Email list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration My Speedo for BJ8 just stopped working after installing new angle drive and cable. Need to have it rebuilt. Who is mom's and Nisongers? Bob Begani On April 13, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Healey <67healey at gmail.com> wrote: Just an fyi, so that other folks don't bother the Bienz family - I just emailed Oliver this am to ask about getting my speedo fixed, and apparently he passed away suddenly in January :-( Any other suggestions? Or is there a good diy guide somewhere? The Anthony Rhodes guide is ok - except it leaves out one small & initial critical detail - how to get the trip odometer shaft & knob off. http://www.szott.ca/lotusinfo/Smith-jaeger_speedo_repair.pdf TIA, Neil On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 3:10 AM Per Schoerner wrote: George Marinos, wanna swap it for an MPH one? Please send me an email . Best Regards, Per Schoerner Skickat fr?n min iPhone 29 okt. 2019 kl. 02:40 skrev George Marinos via Healeys : ?Make sure your comparing apples for apples. There are alot of variables and levels of ?restoration?. I have not done business with either of those companies, only Nisonger?s many years ago. Let us know what you decide and the end result. I have a KPH Speedometer that I am considering getting restored. George Sent from my iPad On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: ?I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that froze up. So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other. MoMa quoted $175. I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375! Usually I don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the determining factor. 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URL: From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Mon Apr 13 23:04:48 2020 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Bruce Steele) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:04:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 13, Issue 130 Message-ID: <5de201d6121a$3aaeeb40$b00cc1c0$@roadrunner.com> Interesting short article on a customized Healey. https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2020/04/08/lost-and-found-overflow-the-aust in-healey-with-the-face-of-a-ferrari Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From warthodson at aol.com Tue Apr 14 06:18:24 2020 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: <00ac01d61200$366188f0$a3249ad0$@sympatico.ca> References: <0vx4byi5py8nqp9y14u0ft0m.1586816340107@email.android.com> <00ac01d61200$366188f0$a3249ad0$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <1221361712.188240.1586866704053@mail.yahoo.com> I have had all my BJ8 instruments serviced by them & am very satisfied with their work, too.Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Mirek Sharp To: 'Healey Email list' Sent: Mon, Apr 13, 2020 8:58 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration #yiv5818037693 #yiv5818037693 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} #yiv5818037693 #yiv5818037693 p.yiv5818037693MsoNormal, #yiv5818037693 li.yiv5818037693MsoNormal, #yiv5818037693 div.yiv5818037693MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:10.0pt;} #yiv5818037693 a:link, #yiv5818037693 span.yiv5818037693MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv5818037693 a:visited, #yiv5818037693 span.yiv5818037693MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv5818037693 p {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;} #yiv5818037693 span.yiv5818037693EmailStyle18 {color:windowtext;} #yiv5818037693 .yiv5818037693MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {} #yiv5818037693 div.yiv5818037693WordSection1 {} #yiv5818037693 I have used Nisongers a couple of times and have been happy with their work. ?Mirek ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From airtightproductions at icloud.com Tue Apr 14 08:36:24 2020 From: airtightproductions at icloud.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 14:36:24 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 13, Issue 130 Message-ID: <8994bf6c-0b53-4ff4-a459-22688d4fcb24@me.com> For a moment, I thought it might have been mine! When I was discharged from the Army in 1970, my brother sold me his Austin-Healey. Maroon over white with a white interior and white walls. Very period of course. It was a very beautiful car, not stock, but also very cool for the day. Anyway, his wife had had an accident in it and crunched the front end. My brother cut off the body in the front and made a fiberglass Ferrari GT 250 front end for the car. It was just primered, but it still looked cool and I was going to finish it after I bought it. I drove it from Dallas to Los Angeles in a day, slept in L.A. and then went to San Francisco the next day. ???I never got around to finishing it, I drove the wheels off of it and it died. I left it at a friends house, actually his grandmothers and never got it back. Very long story on that aspect. But when I saw the headline here, I had to look. Wasn't mine and I'm sure I will never see that car again. Young and stupid, but the Austin Healey bug bit and I was never cured. Steven Kingsbury? On April 13, 2020 at 10:07 PM, "Bruce Steele" wrote: Interesting short article on a customized Healey. https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2020/04/08/lost-and-found-overflow-the-aust in-healey-with-the-face-of-a-ferrari Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Apr 14 08:57:39 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 07:57:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Water Pump Lubrication In-Reply-To: <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Looks like this pump might be this one, no? https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?gclid=cjwkcajwvtx0brafeiwagwjyzkhggat161awbd3owzmyt_lkbspqf9lv4agi4cngonk9swgnjnnotroc9fkqavd_bwe If so, it appears to have sealed bearings, with a spacer in between.? You'd probably want to fill that cavity with grease, but that's just a guess.? Note when I bought my BJ8 I believe it had a greasing port (not a zerk, maybe a cup).? I bought 'water pump grease,' which comes in a tub and is much thicker and tackier than typical greases, and a special gun--looks like a large metal syringe--to pump the grease into the pump.?? AHS's new 6-cyl pump appears to have a sealed bearing AND a zerk fitting, which makes me wonder if the zerk is only there to fill a casting hole? Bob https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?gclid=cjwkcajwvtx0brafeiwagwjyzkhggat161awbd3owzmyt_lkbspqf9lv4agi4cngonk9swgnjnnotroc9fkqavd_bwe On 4/13/2020 3:08 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > Here is a picture of the uprated water pump I want to install to my 4 > cylinder build.? As you can see in the picture I have circled the zerk > fitting for lubrication.? The other circle is around a flush hex plug > at the top of the pump.? I can see both of these points are in > different planes.? Does that mean there are two lubrication points?? > How often should the pump be lubricated? Just a few questions before I > yank the County brand new water pump that was put on during the short > block build.? Not really a fan of County brand anything. > Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Apr 14 10:57:57 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:57:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Water Pump Lubrication In-Reply-To: References: <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It will be interesting to see how they last. From what I can see they seem to have a steel bodied seal pressed into the cast iron housing without any seal. I have found that procedure to be the cause of leakage on previous repops. I do hope that they have addressed that issue. M On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 11:24 AM Bob Spidell, wrote: > Looks like this pump might be this one, no? > > > https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?gclid=cjwkcajwvtx0brafeiwagwjyzkhggat161awbd3owzmyt_lkbspqf9lv4agi4cngonk9swgnjnnotroc9fkqavd_bwe > > If so, it appears to have sealed bearings, with a spacer in between. > You'd probably want to fill that cavity with grease, but that's just a > guess. Note when I bought my BJ8 I believe it had a greasing port (not a > zerk, maybe a cup). I bought 'water pump grease,' which comes in a tub and > is much thicker and tackier than typical greases, and a special gun--looks > like a large metal syringe--to pump the grease into the pump. AHS's new > 6-cyl pump appears to have a sealed bearing AND a zerk fitting, which makes > me wonder if the zerk is only there to fill a casting hole? > > Bob > > > > https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?gclid=cjwkcajwvtx0brafeiwagwjyzkhggat161awbd3owzmyt_lkbspqf9lv4agi4cngonk9swgnjnnotroc9fkqavd_bwe > > On 4/13/2020 3:08 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > Here is a picture of the uprated water pump I want to install to my 4 > cylinder build. As you can see in the picture I have circled the zerk > fitting for lubrication. The other circle is around a flush hex plug at > the top of the pump. I can see both of these points are in different > planes. Does that mean there are two lubrication points? How often should > the pump be lubricated? Just a few questions before I yank the County > brand new water pump that was put on during the short block build. Not > really a fan of County brand anything. > Mike MacLean > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From drscholz at visioncenterpc.com Tue Apr 14 11:24:31 2020 From: drscholz at visioncenterpc.com (Chris Scholz) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 17:24:31 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 1967 MkIII Message-ID: Good afternoon, First wanted to say thank you for all the help when I restored my 59 100-6. The contributions from this group were invaluable. My friend in Muscatine Iowa is selling his ?67. He plans on listing this on bringatrailer.com. 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No financial interest, just a very satisfied customer.http://www.foreignspeedoinc.com/ Mike MacLean On Tuesday, April 14, 2020, 5:33:27 AM PDT, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: I have had all my BJ8 instruments serviced by them & am very satisfied with their work, too.Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Mirek Sharp To: 'Healey Email list' Sent: Mon, Apr 13, 2020 8:58 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration #yiv7735191370 -- filtered {}#yiv7735191370 filtered {}#yiv7735191370 p.yiv7735191370MsoNormal, #yiv7735191370 li.yiv7735191370MsoNormal, #yiv7735191370 div.yiv7735191370MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv7735191370 a:link, #yiv7735191370 span.yiv7735191370MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7735191370 a:visited, #yiv7735191370 span.yiv7735191370MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7735191370 p {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;}#yiv7735191370 span.yiv7735191370EmailStyle18 {color:windowtext;}#yiv7735191370 .yiv7735191370MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv7735191370 filtered {}#yiv7735191370 div.yiv7735191370WordSection1 {}#yiv7735191370 I have used Nisongers a couple of times and have been happy with their work. ?Mirek ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Charlie ----- Original Message ----- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc at knology.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Apr 14 17:09:42 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 19:09:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 6 Volt Battery Installation In-Reply-To: <1006667077.896499.1586904307255.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net> References: <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791@mail.yahoo.com> <1006667077.896499.1586904307255.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net> Message-ID: This may help. https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2015/09/14/lucas-17l-tar-top-battery-solution/ M On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 6:45 PM Charles Schott, wrote: > Would someone please send me pictures, illustrations or tell me where I > can find them for installing two 6 volt batteries in a BN1. I have the > trays and top rims, but I don't know how they are attached to the chassis. > > Also, a source for the batteries that will fit in the trays. > > Thanks. > > Regards, > > Charlie > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc at knology.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Apr 14 17:13:32 2020 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (ahbn6 at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 19:13:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 6 Volt Battery Installation In-Reply-To: References: <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791@mail.yahoo.com> <1006667077.896499.1586904307255.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net> Message-ID: <002501d612b2$5143e110$f3cba330$@verizon.net> Michael Salter gave you the installation. 17L batteries are available at any auto parts store that sells Interstate batteries. John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 7:10 PM To: Charles Schott Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 Volt Battery Installation This may help. https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2015/09/14/lucas-17l-tar-top-battery-solution/ M On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 6:45 PM Charles Schott, > wrote: Would someone please send me pictures, illustrations or tell me where I can find them for installing two 6 volt batteries in a BN1. I have the trays and top rims, but I don't know how they are attached to the chassis. Also, a source for the batteries that will fit in the trays. Thanks. 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John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 7:10 PM To: Charles Schott Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 Volt Battery Installation This may help. https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2015/09/14/lucas-17l-tar-top-battery-solution/ M On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 6:45 PM Charles Schott, > wrote: Would someone please send me pictures, illustrations or tell me where I can find them for installing two 6 volt batteries in a BN1. I have the trays and top rims, but I don't know how they are attached to the chassis. Also, a source for the batteries that will fit in the trays. Thanks. 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Apr 14 17:17:10 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 16:17:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Water Pump Lubrication In-Reply-To: References: <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6e23dd7d-d42a-f6eb-8e5a-137c3b7528e8@comcast.net> Michael, Looks like a ceramic-type seal; what am I missing? Bob On 4/14/2020 9:57 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > It will be interesting to see how they last. From what I can see they > seem to have a steel bodied seal pressed into the cast iron housing > without any seal. > I have found that procedure to be the cause of leakage on previous repops. > I do hope that they have addressed that issue. > > M > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 11:24 AM Bob Spidell, > wrote: > > Looks like this pump might be this one, no? > > https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?gclid=cjwkcajwvtx0brafeiwagwjyzkhggat161awbd3owzmyt_lkbspqf9lv4agi4cngonk9swgnjnnotroc9fkqavd_bwe > > If so, it appears to have sealed bearings, with a spacer in > between.? You'd probably want to fill that cavity with grease, but > that's just a guess.? Note when I bought my BJ8 I believe it had a > greasing port (not a zerk, maybe a cup). I bought 'water pump > grease,' which comes in a tub and is much thicker and tackier than > typical greases, and a special gun--looks like a large metal > syringe--to pump the grease into the pump.?? AHS's new 6-cyl pump > appears to have a sealed bearing AND a zerk fitting, which makes > me wonder if the zerk is only there to fill a casting hole? > > Bob > > > https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?gclid=cjwkcajwvtx0brafeiwagwjyzkhggat161awbd3owzmyt_lkbspqf9lv4agi4cngonk9swgnjnnotroc9fkqavd_bwe > > On 4/13/2020 3:08 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: >> Here is a picture of the uprated water pump I want to install to >> my 4 cylinder build.? As you can see in the picture I have >> circled the zerk fitting for lubrication.? The other circle is >> around a flush hex plug at the top of the pump.? I can see both >> of these points are in different planes.? Does that mean there >> are two lubrication points?? How often should the pump be >> lubricated?? Just a few questions before I yank the County brand >> new water pump that was put on during the short block build.? Not >> really a fan of County brand anything. >> Mike MacLean > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Apr 14 17:31:44 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 19:31:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Water Pump Lubrication In-Reply-To: <6e23dd7d-d42a-f6eb-8e5a-137c3b7528e8@comcast.net> References: <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1455066914.5180036.1586815717791@mail.yahoo.com> <6e23dd7d-d42a-f6eb-8e5a-137c3b7528e8@comcast.net> Message-ID: My concern is about how the stainless steel seal body is pressed into the pump body. Maybe they have it covered but, the County pumps that I have disassembled showed signs of leakage between the seal body and the casting. M On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 7:17 PM Bob Spidell, wrote: > Michael, > > Looks like a ceramic-type seal; what am I missing? > > Bob > > On 4/14/2020 9:57 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > > It will be interesting to see how they last. From what I can see they seem > to have a steel bodied seal pressed into the cast iron housing without any > seal. > I have found that procedure to be the cause of leakage on previous repops. > I do hope that they have addressed that issue. > > M > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 11:24 AM Bob Spidell, wrote: > >> Looks like this pump might be this one, no? >> >> >> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?gclid=cjwkcajwvtx0brafeiwagwjyzkhggat161awbd3owzmyt_lkbspqf9lv4agi4cngonk9swgnjnnotroc9fkqavd_bwe >> >> If so, it appears to have sealed bearings, with a spacer in between. >> You'd probably want to fill that cavity with grease, but that's just a >> guess. Note when I bought my BJ8 I believe it had a greasing port (not a >> zerk, maybe a cup). I bought 'water pump grease,' which comes in a tub and >> is much thicker and tackier than typical greases, and a special gun--looks >> like a large metal syringe--to pump the grease into the pump. AHS's new >> 6-cyl pump appears to have a sealed bearing AND a zerk fitting, which makes >> me wonder if the zerk is only there to fill a casting hole? >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?gclid=cjwkcajwvtx0brafeiwagwjyzkhggat161awbd3owzmyt_lkbspqf9lv4agi4cngonk9swgnjnnotroc9fkqavd_bwe >> >> On 4/13/2020 3:08 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: >> >> Here is a picture of the uprated water pump I want to install to my 4 >> cylinder build. As you can see in the picture I have circled the zerk >> fitting for lubrication. The other circle is around a flush hex plug at >> the top of the pump. I can see both of these points are in different >> planes. Does that mean there are two lubrication points? How often should >> the pump be lubricated? Just a few questions before I yank the County >> brand new water pump that was put on during the short block build. Not >> really a fan of County brand anything. >> Mike MacLean >> >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Tue Apr 14 21:04:35 2020 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Bruce Steele) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 20:04:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: <607605601.480594.1586891100805@mail.yahoo.com> References: <0vx4byi5py8nqp9y14u0ft0m.1586816340107@email.android.com> <00ac01d61200$366188f0$a3249ad0$@sympatico.ca> <1221361712.188240.1586866704053@mail.yahoo.com> <607605601.480594.1586891100805@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <605901d612d2$9a25a9c0$ce70fd40$@roadrunner.com> They?ve done my gauges as well. No complaints. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:05 PM To: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca; healeys at autox.team.net; warthodson at aol.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration I recently had a speedo and tach from my MGB GT and my Bugeye tach and speedo rebuilt by Foreign Speedo in San Diego. They do exceptional work at very resaonable prices. No financial interest, just a very satisfied customer. http://www.foreignspeedoinc.com/ Mike MacLean On Tuesday, April 14, 2020, 5:33:27 AM PDT, warthodson--- via Healeys > wrote: I have had all my BJ8 instruments serviced by them & am very satisfied with their work, too. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Mirek Sharp > To: 'Healey Email list' > Sent: Mon, Apr 13, 2020 8:58 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration I have used Nisongers a couple of times and have been happy with their work. Mirek _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Tue Apr 14 22:51:51 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 04:51:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 6 Volt Battery Installation Message-ID: <98a8d388f437b0ad7cdf58410dd2cea3991e372d@webmail> Charlie-here is my original factory setup on my 1953 100 (twin to Michael's) Antique Battery no longer makes the 17H style...it also became Jim's Battery and not sure they are still in business. Interstate still lists one, but you can also use the 19H (a bit higher-fits VW & MGB) as long as your battery cover is in good condition, not interfering and covered in armacord The rods are brass and threaded 1/4" BSF thru the trays into the welded frame fittings (yours may be gone if eaten at an earlier time) Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com -----------------------------------------From: "Michael Salter" To: "Charles Schott" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday April 14 2020 4:10:14PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 Volt Battery Installation This may help. [1]https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2015/09/14/lucas-17l-tar-top-battery-solution/ [2] M On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 6:45 PM Charles Schott, wrote: Would someone please send me pictures, illustrations or tell me where I can find them for installing two 6 volt batteries in a BN1. I have the trays and top rims, but I don't know how they are attached to the chassis. Also, a source for the batteries that will fit in the trays. Thanks. 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Regards, Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: gradea1 at charter.net To: "Michael Salter" Cc: "Charles Schott" , "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:51:51 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 Volt Battery Installation Charlie-here is my original factory setup on my 1953 100 (twin to Michael's) Antique Battery no longer makes the 17H style...it also became Jim's Battery and not sure they are still in business. Interstate still lists one, but you can also use the 19H (a bit higher-fits VW & MGB) as long as your battery cover is in good condition, not interfering and covered in armacord The rods are brass and threaded 1/4" BSF thru the trays into the welded frame fittings (yours may be gone if eaten at an earlier time) Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com ----------------------------------------- From: "Michael Salter" To: "Charles Schott" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday April 14 2020 4:10:14PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 Volt Battery Installation This may help. https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2015/09/14/lucas-17l-tar-top-battery-solution/ M On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 6:45 PM Charles Schott, < schottc at knology.net > wrote: Would someone please send me pictures, illustrations or tell me where I can find them for installing two 6 volt batteries in a BN1. I have the trays and top rims, but I don't know how they are attached to the chassis. Also, a source for the batteries that will fit in the trays. Thanks. Regards, Charlie
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[image: image.png] You will notice that there is a "P" clip securing the battery to battery cable to the rim of the access hole. The hole for the screw for this is probably apparent on your car. M On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 9:38 AM Charles Schott wrote: > Thanks to all who replied. Since my trays and mounting brackets were > rusted away, I'm looking for information on how the trays are installed > before the fitment of batteries. > > Regards, > > Charlie > > ------------------------------ > *From: *gradea1 at charter.net > *To: *"Michael Salter" > *Cc: *"Charles Schott" , "healeys at autox.team.net" < > healeys at autox.team.net> > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:51:51 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] 6 Volt Battery Installation > > Charlie-here is my original factory setup on my 1953 100 (twin to > Michael's) Antique Battery no longer makes the 17H style...it also became > Jim's Battery and not sure they are still in business. Interstate still > lists one, but you can also use the 19H (a bit higher-fits VW & MGB) as > long as your battery cover is in good condition, not interfering and > covered in armacord The rods are brass and threaded 1/4" BSF thru the > trays into the welded frame fittings (yours may be gone if eaten at an > earlier time) Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Michael Salter" > To: "Charles Schott" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday April 14 2020 4:10:14PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 Volt Battery Installation > > This may help. > > > https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2015/09/14/lucas-17l-tar-top-battery-solution/ > > M > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 6:45 PM Charles Schott, wrote: > >> Would someone please send me pictures, illustrations or tell me where I >> can find them for installing two 6 volt batteries in a BN1. I have the >> trays and top rims, but I don't know how they are attached to the chassis. >> >> Also, a source for the batteries that will fit in the trays. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Regards, >> >> Charlie >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc at knology.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: skip saunders Sent: April 15, 2020 10:50 AM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] car part Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey? https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From airtightproductions at icloud.com Wed Apr 15 10:01:53 2020 From: airtightproductions at icloud.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 16:01:53 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] car part Message-ID: <122c2fc2-7d81-4064-9c54-c1d49ba3a29f@me.com> Put one on mine. Didn't go well. On April 15, 2020 at 8:50 AM, "skip saunders" wrote: Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey? ? https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Forgive typos On Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 8:50 AM skip saunders wrote: > Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey? > > > > https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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" If it's THAT heavy, we can expect rusty old Healey chassis to fold like a taco when it get installed. bs On 4/15/2020 8:58 AM, Jean Caron wrote: > > Skip, > > Yes it can but only if your car has been converted to negative ground. > You will also be required, because of its weight, to stop at all > weight scale when traveling on major highways. > > One drawback however, is if your trafficator is not working properly > and does not return to center every time you use it, leaving your left > signal to be on for several miles at a time, it may cause the flux > capacitor to overheat causing your horn wires to melt but not before > your horn being activated and staying on and attracting unwanted > attention to yourself and your car. > > Jean > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *skip saunders > *Sent: *April 15, 2020 10:50 AM > *To: *healeylist > *Subject: *[Healeys] car part > > Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey? > > https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyray at yahoo.com Wed Apr 15 11:08:57 2020 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 17:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] car part In-Reply-To: References: <006a01d6133d$81c4a7d0$854df770$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <611803771.1016549.1586970537436@mail.yahoo.com> Photo without caption... On Wednesday, April 15, 2020, 9:01:39 AM PDT, Jean Caron wrote: Skip, Yes it can but only if your car has been converted to negative ground. You will also be required, because of its weight, to stop at all weight scale when traveling on major highways. One drawback however, is if your trafficator is not working properly and does not return to center every time you use it, leaving your left signal to be on for several miles at a time, it may cause the flux capacitor to overheat causing your horn wires to melt but not before your horn being activated and staying on and attracting unwanted attention to yourself and your car. ? Jean ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: skip saunders Sent: April 15, 2020 10:50 AM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] car part ? Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey? ? https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g ? ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Beam me up.png Type: image/png Size: 400102 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Apr 15 11:11:59 2020 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 10:11:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] car part In-Reply-To: References: <006a01d6133d$81c4a7d0$854df770$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Not to our Bugeye as I don't believe that it'll do 88 mph! Plus Lucas electrical systems are not rated for 1.21 GigaWatts On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 9:01 AM Jean Caron < vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com> wrote: > Skip, > > Yes it can but only if your car has been converted to negative ground. You > will also be required, because of its weight, to stop at all weight scale > when traveling on major highways. > > One drawback however, is if your trafficator is not working properly and > does not return to center every time you use it, leaving your left signal > to be on for several miles at a time, it may cause the flux capacitor to > overheat causing your horn wires to melt but not before your horn being > activated and staying on and attracting unwanted attention to yourself and > your car. > > > > Jean > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *skip saunders > *Sent: *April 15, 2020 10:50 AM > *To: *healeylist > *Subject: *[Healeys] car part > > > > Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey? > > > > https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Wed Apr 15 11:17:15 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 17:17:15 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] car part In-Reply-To: <611803771.1016549.1586970537436@mail.yahoo.com> References: <006a01d6133d$81c4a7d0$854df770$@gmail.com> , <611803771.1016549.1586970537436@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The device itself is not so heavy but the plutonium fuel is. I?m waiting for the Mark 2 version that operates on orange peels... ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Ray Juncal via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:08 PM To: skip saunders ; healeylist ; Jean Caron Subject: Re: [Healeys] car part Photo without caption... [Inline image] On Wednesday, April 15, 2020, 9:01:39 AM PDT, Jean Caron wrote: Skip, Yes it can but only if your car has been converted to negative ground. You will also be required, because of its weight, to stop at all weight scale when traveling on major highways. One drawback however, is if your trafficator is not working properly and does not return to center every time you use it, leaving your left signal to be on for several miles at a time, it may cause the flux capacitor to overheat causing your horn wires to melt but not before your horn being activated and staying on and attracting unwanted attention to yourself and your car. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: skip saunders Sent: April 15, 2020 10:50 AM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] car part Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey? https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I can say that mine does fit in an Austin Healey and has for the last 55 years, can?t say that it was original equipment since it was with another caretaker for the first 10 years. Can say that it doesn?t work as well when the wife is in the second seat. Not sure why that is but suspect it has to do with the sharp elbow to the ribs that follows the gas emission. Hope every one is safe and busy while staying at home. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: skip saunders Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:50 AM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] car part Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey? https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Wed Apr 15 11:27:01 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 13:27:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] car part In-Reply-To: <006a01d6133d$81c4a7d0$854df770$@gmail.com> References: <006a01d6133d$81c4a7d0$854df770$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Listers When I ventured back to the future, that really means just getting old, I did not find a Flux Capacitor along my journey. In my case it was a fart generator that helped me to Putt, Putt, Putt day after day after day! This generator was positive but I have no idea what effect it had on the ground, therefore I?m not sure I could call it positive ground. I do know that several decades ago folks started worrying about green house gases, while along my trip to the future it was more about the outhouse gases that seemed to be following me, literally, everywhere. I can say that mine does fit in an Austin Healey and has for the last 55 years, can?t say that it was original equipment since it was with another caretaker for the first 10 years. Can say that it doesn?t work as well when the wife is in the second seat. Not sure why that is but suspect it has to do with the sharp elbow to the ribs that follows the gas emission. Hope every one is safe and busy while staying at home. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: skip saunders Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:50 AM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] car part Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey? https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kags at shaw.ca Wed Apr 15 12:32:29 2020 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 11:32:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] car part In-Reply-To: <20200415173037.EEC55A0492@autox.team.net> References: <006a01d6133d$81c4a7d0$854df770$@gmail.com> <20200415173037.EEC55A0492@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Seems like our friend Perry has got the idea of ?social distancing? down pat! Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb From: Perry via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 10:27 AM To: skip saunders Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] car part Listers When I ventured back to the future, that really means just getting old, I did not find a Flux Capacitor along my journey. In my case it was a fart generator that helped me to Putt, Putt, Putt day after day after day! This generator was positive but I have no idea what effect it had on the ground, therefore I?m not sure I could call it positive ground. I do know that several decades ago folks started worrying about green house gases, while along my trip to the future it was more about the outhouse gases that seemed to be following me, literally, everywhere. I can say that mine does fit in an Austin Healey and has for the last 55 years, can?t say that it was original equipment since it was with another caretaker for the first 10 years. Can say that it doesn?t work as well when the wife is in the second seat. Not sure why that is but suspect it has to do with the sharp elbow to the ribs that follows the gas emission. Hope every one is safe and busy while staying at home. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: skip saunders Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:50 AM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] car part Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey? https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/kags at shaw.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Wed Apr 15 15:09:54 2020 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Bruce Steele) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 14:09:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] car part In-Reply-To: <006a01d6133d$81c4a7d0$854df770$@gmail.com> References: <006a01d6133d$81c4a7d0$854df770$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <641301d6136a$379f82b0$a6de8810$@roadrunner.com> That's great. Reminds me of the genuine Lucas smoke replacement kit. http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm This has been around awhile, but still a goody. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of skip saunders Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 8:50 AM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] car part Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey? https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Wed Apr 15 15:57:51 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 21:57:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] car part In-Reply-To: <122c2fc2-7d81-4064-9c54-c1d49ba3a29f@me.com> References: <122c2fc2-7d81-4064-9c54-c1d49ba3a29f@me.com> Message-ID: Ouch! That hurts,,, ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Steven Kingsbury via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 4:01 PM To: skip saunders Cc: healeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] car part Put one on mine. Didn't go well. [IMG_0368.JPG] On April 15, 2020 at 8:50 AM, "skip saunders" wrote: Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey? https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 7:31 AM Mike Garvey wrote: > Is a Healey with an **electric** motor transplant a "nasty boy"? > > See https://electricgt.com/ > > Mike > > > > Michael Garvey > 1967 BJ8/38046 > Swampscott, MA > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Thu Apr 16 12:41:56 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 18:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Electric GT In-Reply-To: References: <002f01d613fb$93fd7a30$bbf86e90$@com> Message-ID: <1974889206.1721656.1587062516609@mail.yahoo.com> No thanks.? Especially since gas is so cheap right now.Mike M On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 9:13:35 AM PDT, i erbs wrote: More like a clean boy.Interesting concept Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 7:31 AM Mike Garvey wrote: Is a Healey with an *electric* motor transplant a "nasty boy"? See https://electricgt.com/ Mike ? Michael Garvey 1967 BJ8/38046 Swampscott, MA ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From llennep at verizon.net Wed Apr 15 11:30:14 2020 From: llennep at verizon.net (Keith Pennell) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 17:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] car part In-Reply-To: References: <006a01d6133d$81c4a7d0$854df770$@gmail.com> <611803771.1016549.1586970537436@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1012850989.1039502.1586971814525@mail.yahoo.com> Orange peels?? You trying to create a run on orange peels?? Price of oranges goes up.? Cost of screwdrivers becomes prohibitive.? People become more sober.? Then what???? :):):) -----Original Message----- From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE To: Ray Juncal via Healeys ; skip saunders ; Jean Caron ; Ray Juncal Sent: Wed, Apr 15, 2020 1:17 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] car part The device itself is not so heavy but the plutonium fuel is. I?m waiting for the Mark 2 version that operates on orange peels...From: Healeys on behalf of Ray Juncal via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:08 PM To: skip saunders ; healeylist ; Jean Caron Subject: Re: [Healeys] car part?Photo without caption... On Wednesday, April 15, 2020, 9:01:39 AM PDT, Jean Caron wrote: Skip,Yes it can but only if your car has been converted to negative ground. You will also be required, because of its weight, to stop at all weight scale when traveling on major highways.One drawback however, is if your trafficator is not working properly and does not return to center every time you use it, leaving your left signal to be on for several miles at a time, it may cause the flux capacitor to overheat causing your horn wires to melt but not before your horn being activated and staying on and attracting unwanted attention to yourself and your car.?Jean?Sent from Mail for Windows 10?From: skip saunders Sent: April 15, 2020 10:50 AM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] car part?Does anyone know if this can be fitted to an Austin Healey??https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor?q=121g??_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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P Sent from my iPhone From bighealey3k at aim.com Sat Apr 18 09:37:01 2020 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (Larry Wendland) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 15:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Totally off topic In-Reply-To: <000001d612a2$50a08f70$f1e1ae50$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d612a2$50a08f70$f1e1ae50$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <533983843.1144739.1587224221107@mail.yahoo.com> This is another aviation story and this one is about High Altitude and Speed. Have your sound on and enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILop3Kn3JO8 Larry -----Original Message----- From: simon.lachlan To: 'Healeys' Sent: Tue, Apr 14, 2020 5:19 pm Subject: [Healeys] Totally off topic The other day there was an exchange regarding a High Altitude Recce pilot. Brave man. It reminded me of something I?d read about once. Basically, the highest ever aerial combat in WW2. Strange, to me at least, that it involved diesels. Anyhow, I dug around a bit and:- ? http://planehunters.com/63-2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WDkj0ZYuiA ? Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey3k at aim.com From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Sat Apr 18 18:52:47 2020 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 00:52:47 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield Message-ID: Am I correct in thinking the 100 (100-4) did not have a heat shield under the main floor board. Above the muffler? TY, Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Above the muffler? > TY, Shawn > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Apr 18 19:57:18 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 18:57:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26b7758a-f7f9-347c-8eba-3dbad91d0d56@comcast.net> Moss has some (designed by Roger Moment, IIRC).? If they had them during our resto I probably would have put them in.? They weren't originally fitted. On 4/18/2020 6:32 PM, Michael Oritt wrote: > Yes, you are correct.? I have Dynamat both under and on top of the > floor, pretty effective?in keeping heat out. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:53 PM S and T Miller > wrote: > > Am I correct in thinking the 100 (100-4) did not have a heat > shield under the main floor board.? Above the muffler? > TY, Shawn > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a > test drive." > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at gmail.com Sat Apr 18 20:22:10 2020 From: healeydoc at gmail.com (David Nock) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 19:22:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Correct but you can install the BN4 - BJ7 heatshield on the 100/4. I would also recommend putting Dynamat under the carpet insulation as well. David Nock Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:53 PM, S and T Miller wrote: > > ? > Am I correct in thinking the 100 (100-4) did not have a heat shield under the main floor board. Above the muffler? > TY, Shawn > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Apr 18 22:55:15 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 04:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Head Gasket? References: <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063@mail.yahoo.com> In the process of putting the head on my 100 engine.? I have a head gasket, but not sure what I have or if it is a good one.? It is copper faced on both sides.? There is no "TOP" marking.? All it has is G-2012F on one side stamped about in the middle almost between the 2 and 3 cylinders. This gasket OK to use? Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20200418_215343.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3501109 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Apr 18 23:50:33 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 22:50:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Head Gasket? In-Reply-To: <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1902e516-efcb-6ece-1a5c-2df2511eac7b@comcast.net> If it's an older (English made) Payen and all the holes line up it should be fine for a stock engine with iron head.? We used one in our BN2 rebuild years ago, and it has caused no problems (but the car has probably been driven less than a thousand miles).? Make sure the block and head faces are flat or no gasket will work. Bob On 4/18/2020 9:55 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > In the process of putting the head on my 100 engine.? I have a head > gasket, but not sure what I have or if it is a good one.? It is copper > faced on both sides.? There is no "TOP" marking.? All it has is > G-2012F on one side stamped about in the middle almost between the 2 > and 3 cylinders. This gasket OK to use? > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Apr 19 00:23:39 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 06:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Head Gasket? In-Reply-To: <1902e516-efcb-6ece-1a5c-2df2511eac7b@comcast.net> References: <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063@mail.yahoo.com> <1902e516-efcb-6ece-1a5c-2df2511eac7b@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1950424425.2914299.1587277419262@mail.yahoo.com> I have no idea if it is a Payen gasket or not.? Heck it's been sitting in a package of engine gaskets for so long I'm not even sure if I bought it several years ago or it was given to me by the guy that built the short block.? Just trying to identify it.? If it is a Payen then I would have no problem using it.? Just don't know what it is.Mike M On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 10:52:07 PM PDT, Bob Spidell wrote: If it's an older (English made) Payen and all the holes line up it should be fine for a stock engine with iron head.? We used one in our BN2 rebuild years ago, and it has caused no problems (but the car has probably been driven less than a thousand miles).? Make sure the block and head faces are flat or no gasket will work. Bob On 4/18/2020 9:55 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: In the process of putting the head on my 100 engine.? I have a head gasket, but not sure what I have or if it is a good one.? It is copper faced on both sides.? There is no "TOP" marking.? All it has is G-2012F on one side stamped about in the middle almost between the 2 and 3 cylinders. This gasket OK to use? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronfineesq at earthlink.net Sun Apr 19 06:20:48 2020 From: ronfineesq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 05:20:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Seized steering box Message-ID: Last summer I installed a new DW steering box in my BN7. It was installed without any adjustments pursuant to the instructions. I drove about 200 miles and the steering box worked as expected. After about a 6 month pause I took my car out for a short drive yesterday and discovered that the steering wheel was very hard to turn. I was only able to get around the block and back into my garage. I jacked up the front, disconnected the tie rods and confirmed that the box has almost frozen up. Very difficult to turn the steering wheel. I adjusted out the peg so it would not be causing the problem but the bearing or something inside the box is seizing up. The box is full of oil, no leaks. I know what is inside the box since I spend some time 20 years ago rebuilding my original box and the only thing I can think of that would seize up are the two bearings, but, I can?t understand why that would happen to a new box while the car was resting in my garage for the past 6 months. Any ideas as to what to check before I pull this box out again. Thanks, Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 06:25:07 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:25:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Seized steering box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually, in addition to the ball bearings the problem could be the sector shaft seized in its bush. If there is a small amount of free movement before resistance is felt I would look at that. M On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 8:20 AM Ron Fine, wrote: > Last summer I installed a new DW steering box in my BN7. It was installed > without any adjustments pursuant to the instructions. I drove about 200 > miles and the steering box worked as expected. > > After about a 6 month pause I took my car out for a short drive yesterday > and discovered that the steering wheel was very hard to turn. I was only > able to get around the block and back into my garage. > > I jacked up the front, disconnected the tie rods and confirmed that the > box has almost frozen up. Very difficult to turn the steering wheel. > > I adjusted out the peg so it would not be causing the problem but the > bearing or something inside the box is seizing up. The box is full of oil, > no leaks. > > I know what is inside the box since I spend some time 20 years ago > rebuilding my original box and the only thing I can think of that would > seize up are the two bearings, but, I can?t understand why that would > happen to a new box while the car was resting in my garage for the past 6 > months. > > Any ideas as to what to check before I pull this box out again. > > Thanks, > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 08:50:13 2020 From: healeydoc at gmail.com (David Nock) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:50:13 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield In-Reply-To: <26b7758a-f7f9-347c-8eba-3dbad91d0d56@comcast.net> References: <26b7758a-f7f9-347c-8eba-3dbad91d0d56@comcast.net> Message-ID: The heatshield kits that Moss supplied have not been available for several years due to the death of the guy that was making them. And they have been very slow at finding someone to re manufacture them. I have looked into having them re made but the cost to make them on a limited bases would make them much more costly. We do have some available the come out of England. David Nock British Car Specialists From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell Date: Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 6:57 PM To: "healeys at autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield Moss has some (designed by Roger Moment, IIRC). If they had them during our resto I probably would have put them in. They weren't originally fitted. On 4/18/2020 6:32 PM, Michael Oritt wrote: Yes, you are correct. I have Dynamat both under and on top of the floor, pretty effective in keeping heat out. Best--Michael Oritt On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:53 PM S and T Miller > wrote: Am I correct in thinking the 100 (100-4) did not have a heat shield under the main floor board. Above the muffler? TY, Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 19 08:56:16 2020 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 07:56:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Head Gasket? In-Reply-To: <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The head gasket will only fit one way. david Nock British car Specialists > On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:55 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > In the process of putting the head on my 100 engine. I have a head gasket, but not sure what I have or if it is a good one. It is copper faced on both sides. There is no "TOP" marking. All it has is G-2012F on one side stamped about in the middle almost between the 2 and 3 cylinders. This gasket OK to use? > <20200418_215343.jpg> > > > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android <20200418_215343.jpg>_______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 19 08:56:16 2020 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 07:56:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Head Gasket? In-Reply-To: <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2065355082.2896070.1587272115063@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The head gasket will only fit one way. david Nock British car Specialists > On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:55 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > In the process of putting the head on my 100 engine. I have a head gasket, but not sure what I have or if it is a good one. It is copper faced on both sides. There is no "TOP" marking. All it has is G-2012F on one side stamped about in the middle almost between the 2 and 3 cylinders. This gasket OK to use? > <20200418_215343.jpg> > > > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android <20200418_215343.jpg>_______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 09:22:39 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 11:22:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield In-Reply-To: References: <26b7758a-f7f9-347c-8eba-3dbad91d0d56@comcast.net> Message-ID: I absolutely concur with David, we used to have them water jet cut but even in batches of 20 of each piece the price became prohibitive. I still have several 6 cylinder sets but no 4s. M On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 10:50 AM David Nock, wrote: > The heatshield kits that Moss supplied have not been available for several > years due to the death of the guy that was making them. And they have been > very slow at finding someone to re manufacture them. > > > > I have looked into having them re made but the cost to make them on a > limited bases would make them much more costly. > > > > We do have some available the come out of England. > > > > > > David Nock > > British Car Specialists > > > > > > *From: *Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell > > *Date: *Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 6:57 PM > *To: *"healeys at autox.team.net" > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield > > > > Moss has some (designed by Roger Moment, IIRC). If they had them during > our resto I probably would have put them in. They weren't originally > fitted. > > On 4/18/2020 6:32 PM, Michael Oritt wrote: > > Yes, you are correct. I have Dynamat both under and on top of the floor, > pretty effective in keeping heat out. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:53 PM S and T Miller > wrote: > > Am I correct in thinking the 100 (100-4) did not have a heat shield under > the main floor board. Above the muffler? > > TY, Shawn > > > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 09:28:56 2020 From: healeydoc at gmail.com (David Nock) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:28:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield In-Reply-To: References: <26b7758a-f7f9-347c-8eba-3dbad91d0d56@comcast.net> Message-ID: So the big question would be. How much are you willing to pay for a correct head shield kit. > On Apr 19, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > > I absolutely concur with David, we used to have them water jet cut but even in batches of 20 of each piece the price became prohibitive. > I still have several 6 cylinder sets but no 4s. > > M > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 10:50 AM David Nock, > wrote: > The heatshield kits that Moss supplied have not been available for several years due to the death of the guy that was making them. And they have been very slow at finding someone to re manufacture them. > > > > I have looked into having them re made but the cost to make them on a limited bases would make them much more costly. > > > > We do have some available the come out of England. > > > > > > David Nock > > British Car Specialists > > > > > > From: Healeys > on behalf of Bob Spidell > > Date: Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 6:57 PM > To: "healeys at autox.team.net " > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield > > > > Moss has some (designed by Roger Moment, IIRC). If they had them during our resto I probably would have put them in. They weren't originally fitted. > > > On 4/18/2020 6:32 PM, Michael Oritt wrote: > > Yes, you are correct. I have Dynamat both under and on top of the floor, pretty effective in keeping heat out. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:53 PM S and T Miller > wrote: > > Am I correct in thinking the 100 (100-4) did not have a heat shield under the main floor board. Above the muffler? > > TY, Shawn > > > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It had the usual crack between 2-3 from overheating at some time in its life. Both the block and head were planed as well. Hank, healeyhelper.com -----------------------------------------From: "Perry Small via Healeys" To: "healeys" Cc: Sent: Sunday April 19 2020 10:01:51AM Subject: [Healeys] Head Gasket Not trying to cause any confusion on this topic. The reason the Payen gasket is marked TOP and FRONT is because the gasket WILL fit either way. The lower photo is two gaskets, one atop the other but one is TOP up and the other inverted. The holes all line up. The issue is which side of the gasket had the cylinder crimp, the bent over seal around each cylinder, is up or down. On older copper faced Payen gaskets the crimp is against the block or Down. Thus the other side is marked with the Top and Front markings. Some later Payen head gaskets use a one piece (separate piece of metal) crimp. After this change the gasket I have looked at are not marked Top or Front. Perry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: En head crack repair.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 728834 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: En head valve side.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 458635 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Apr 19 12:36:36 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 18:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Head Gasket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <82408382.3064525.1587321396064@mail.yahoo.com> Even if I figure out which way to put the head gasket on there still is a few more questions.? The service manual says to torque the head bolts from 65 - 70 ft lbs.? It does not mention anything about the rocker studs.? I'm guessing they are torqued to the same specs?? As far as coating the gasket I intend to use Wellseal.? And my head was also previously repaired between 2 and 3 by an old school welder.? The problem was to repair the crack needed a lot of meat ground away from the intake ports of 2 and 3 to do the welding on the inside of the head.? Of coarse the head would still work, but I just thought the air flow would be different between the inner and out intake ports.? I had the head pocket ported to even the flow out some.? Who knows, it may all be for nothing if it cracks again.? Then I'll spring for an aluminum head.? At least then I will have this gasket and torque thing pretty well sorted out.Mike MacLean Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:49 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: If there is any doubt as to the sealing capability of the three components, you can spray a light coating of "Copper-Cote" on both sides of the gasket before fitting it to the block. I think the proper torque of the bolts on clean studs, in the correct order, is the most important thing you can do to insure it does not leak. Cracking is another story-DO NOT LET IT OVER HEAT. I had my head repaired by Midwest Heads and (knock on wood) its still working properly. It had the usual crack between 2-3 from overheating at some time in its life. Both the block and head were planed as well. Hank, healeyhelper.com? ----------------------------------------- From: "Perry Small via Healeys" To: "healeys" Cc: Sent: Sunday April 19 2020 10:01:51AM Subject: [Healeys] Head Gasket Not trying to cause any confusion on this topic. The reason the Payen gasket is marked TOP and FRONT is because the gasket WILL fit either way. The lower photo is two gaskets, one atop the other but one is TOP up and the other inverted. The holes all line up. The issue is which side of the gasket had the cylinder crimp, the bent over seal around each cylinder, is up or down. On older copper faced Payen gaskets the crimp is against the block or Down. Thus the other side is marked with the Top and Front markings. Some later Payen head gaskets use a one piece (separate piece of metal) crimp. After this change the gasket I have looked at are not marked Top or Front. Perry _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Untitled URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Apr 19 12:36:36 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 18:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Head Gasket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <82408382.3064525.1587321396064@mail.yahoo.com> Even if I figure out which way to put the head gasket on there still is a few more questions.? The service manual says to torque the head bolts from 65 - 70 ft lbs.? It does not mention anything about the rocker studs.? I'm guessing they are torqued to the same specs?? As far as coating the gasket I intend to use Wellseal.? And my head was also previously repaired between 2 and 3 by an old school welder.? The problem was to repair the crack needed a lot of meat ground away from the intake ports of 2 and 3 to do the welding on the inside of the head.? Of coarse the head would still work, but I just thought the air flow would be different between the inner and out intake ports.? I had the head pocket ported to even the flow out some.? Who knows, it may all be for nothing if it cracks again.? Then I'll spring for an aluminum head.? At least then I will have this gasket and torque thing pretty well sorted out.Mike MacLean Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:49 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote: If there is any doubt as to the sealing capability of the three components, you can spray a light coating of "Copper-Cote" on both sides of the gasket before fitting it to the block. I think the proper torque of the bolts on clean studs, in the correct order, is the most important thing you can do to insure it does not leak. Cracking is another story-DO NOT LET IT OVER HEAT. I had my head repaired by Midwest Heads and (knock on wood) its still working properly. It had the usual crack between 2-3 from overheating at some time in its life. Both the block and head were planed as well. Hank, healeyhelper.com? ----------------------------------------- From: "Perry Small via Healeys" To: "healeys" Cc: Sent: Sunday April 19 2020 10:01:51AM Subject: [Healeys] Head Gasket Not trying to cause any confusion on this topic. The reason the Payen gasket is marked TOP and FRONT is because the gasket WILL fit either way. The lower photo is two gaskets, one atop the other but one is TOP up and the other inverted. The holes all line up. The issue is which side of the gasket had the cylinder crimp, the bent over seal around each cylinder, is up or down. On older copper faced Payen gaskets the crimp is against the block or Down. Thus the other side is marked with the Top and Front markings. Some later Payen head gaskets use a one piece (separate piece of metal) crimp. After this change the gasket I have looked at are not marked Top or Front. 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Name: Untitled URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Apr 19 12:43:34 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 18:43:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield In-Reply-To: References: <26b7758a-f7f9-347c-8eba-3dbad91d0d56@comcast.net> Message-ID: <555946678.3094065.1587321814183@mail.yahoo.com> Tom Monaco of Tom's Toys up in Oregon sells heat shields he makes up for the 100 to install under the driver's floor.? It comes with a fastener kit and installation instructions.? I bought one for my BN2.? of course I will be using Dynamat inside the car too.? Maybe I won't melt my butt during the hot summer months.Mike MacLean Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:29 AM, David Nock wrote: _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Untitled URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 19 14:03:01 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 13:03:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Seized steering box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2a2251d5-e157-16c7-cbc2-92fda80ce5a0@comcast.net> Ron, Please keep us posted on what you discover; I have a DW steering column on the bench and would like to see resolution of your problem before I install it. Is there a chance it's something in the column, I think there should be a felt 'seal' in it?? Did you fill the box with the Millers oil that came with it? Bob On 4/19/2020 5:25 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > Actually, in addition to the ball bearings the problem could be the > sector shaft seized in its bush. > If there is a small amount of free movement before resistance is felt > I would look at that. > > M > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 8:20 AM Ron Fine, > wrote: > > Last summer I installed a new DW steering box in my BN7.? It was > installed without any adjustments pursuant to the instructions.? I > drove about 200 miles and the steering box worked as expected. > After about a 6 month pause I took my car out for a short drive > yesterday and discovered that the steering wheel was very hard to > turn.? I was only able to get around the block and back into my > garage. > I jacked up the front, disconnected the tie rods and confirmed > that the box has almost frozen up.? Very difficult to turn the > steering wheel. > I adjusted out the peg so it would not be causing the problem but > the bearing or something inside the box is seizing up.? The box is > full of oil, no leaks. > I know what is inside the box since I spend some time 20 years ago > rebuilding my original box and the only thing I can think of that > would seize up are the two bearings, but, I can?t understand why > that would happen to a new box while the car was resting in my > garage for the past 6 months. > Any ideas as to what to check before I pull this box out again. > Thanks, > Ron > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Sun Apr 19 15:04:02 2020 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:04:02 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Might be a dumb question, but what is AIR introduced? Thank you to all that replied. Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." ________________________________ From: Michael Salter Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 8:02 AM To: S and T Miller Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield That is correct Shawn. The asbestos panel above the muffler was AIR introduced until the BJ7 appeared on the scene. M On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 8:52 PM S and T Miller, > wrote: Am I correct in thinking the 100 (100-4) did not have a heat shield under the main floor board. Above the muffler? TY, Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at jtkarowe.com.au Sun Apr 19 15:58:41 2020 From: john at jtkarowe.com.au (John Rowe) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 07:58:41 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <82408382.3064525.1587321396064@mail.yahoo.com> References: <82408382.3064525.1587321396064@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000c01d61695$b0d44d90$127ce8b0$@com.au> Mike, Simply tighten the rocker studs manually, there is no need to torque these to a specific value. I wish you well with the repaired head. John Rowe Qld Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean via Healeys Sent: Monday, 20 April 2020 4:37 AM To: gradea1 at charter.net; Henry G Leach via Healeys; 'Perry Small' Cc: 'healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Head Gasket Even if I figure out which way to put the head gasket on there still is a few more questions. The service manual says to torque the head bolts from 65 - 70 ft lbs. It does not mention anything about the rocker studs. I'm guessing they are torqued to the same specs? As far as coating the gasket I intend to use Wellseal. And my head was also previously repaired between 2 and 3 by an old school welder. The problem was to repair the crack needed a lot of meat ground away from the intake ports of 2 and 3 to do the welding on the inside of the head. Of coarse the head would still work, but I just thought the air flow would be different between the inner and out intake ports. I had the head pocket ported to even the flow out some. Who knows, it may all be for nothing if it cracks again. Then I'll spring for an aluminum head. At least then I will have this gasket and torque thing pretty well sorted out. Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 18:04:42 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:04:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Heat shield In-Reply-To: <555946678.3094065.1587321814183@mail.yahoo.com> References: <26b7758a-f7f9-347c-8eba-3dbad91d0d56@comcast.net> <555946678.3094065.1587321814183@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I found that my insulating my bn4 was so good I was cold driving during the winter. I don t have my heatet controls installed yet. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 3:20 PM Michael MacLean via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Tom Monaco of Tom's Toys up in Oregon sells heat shields he makes up for > the 100 to install under the driver's floor. It comes with a fastener kit > and installation instructions. I bought one for my BN2. of course I will > be using Dynamat inside the car too. Maybe I won't melt my butt during the > hot summer months. > Mike MacLean > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android > > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:29 AM, David Nock > wrote: > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there a chance it's something in the column, I think there should be a felt 'seal' in it? Did you fill the box with the Millers oil that came with it? Bob On 4/19/2020 5:25 AM, Michael Salter wrote: Actually, in addition to the ball bearings the problem could be the sector shaft seized in its bush. If there is a small amount of free movement before resistance is felt I would look at that. M On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 8:20 AM Ron Fine, > wrote: Last summer I installed a new DW steering box in my BN7. It was installed without any adjustments pursuant to the instructions. I drove about 200 miles and the steering box worked as expected. After about a 6 month pause I took my car out for a short drive yesterday and discovered that the steering wheel was very hard to turn. I was only able to get around the block and back into my garage. I jacked up the front, disconnected the tie rods and confirmed that the box has almost frozen up. Very difficult to turn the steering wheel. I adjusted out the peg so it would not be causing the problem but the bearing or something inside the box is seizing up. The box is full of oil, no leaks. I know what is inside the box since I spend some time 20 years ago rebuilding my original box and the only thing I can think of that would seize up are the two bearings, but, I can?t understand why that would happen to a new box while the car was resting in my garage for the past 6 months. Any ideas as to what to check before I pull this box out again. Thanks, Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sun Apr 19 19:54:53 2020 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:54:53 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery In-Reply-To: References: <00f401d616af$c43dca40$4cb95ec0$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <011e01d616b6$b0237120$106a5360$@tpg.com.au> Hello It?s occurred to me that the blanking plate is there to act as a sacrificial anode. Or is that looking too deep into it? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn From: Michael Salter [mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 20 April 2020 11:45 AM To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Subject: Re: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery I haven't Pat, but I know that they corrode through and have often wondered why they were there. M On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 9:15 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: Hello I have been sent a short article about the blanking plate fitted to the front of the 100 engine. Photo attached. Would anyone know the purpose of the plate? Perhaps in other engine installations the opening it covers serves another purpose? Thanks Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia Virus-free. www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 20:24:28 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:24:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery In-Reply-To: <00f401d616af$c43dca40$4cb95ec0$@tpg.com.au> References: <00f401d616af$c43dca40$4cb95ec0$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: looks like it would cover the water temp sensor on an early 100-6 before they hid under the head piece that makes freaking impossible to remove. see here from Moss https://mossmotors.com/blanking-plate-front-cover-and-water-gallery Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 6:18 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > Hello > > > > I have been sent a short article about the blanking plate fitted to the > front of the 100 engine. Photo attached. > > > > Would anyone know the purpose of the plate? Perhaps in other engine > installations the opening it covers serves another purpose? > > > > Thanks > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > > <#m_6918186898591148520_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 20:55:58 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:55:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery In-Reply-To: <000001d616b4$32e3e9d0$98abbd70$@com.au> References: <00f401d616af$c43dca40$4cb95ec0$@tpg.com.au> <000001d616b4$32e3e9d0$98abbd70$@com.au> Message-ID: right electric choke, not temp sensor. Distracted by grading college homework. I should focus on my Healey list as top priority. But I did link to the correct Moss page. Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 7:28 PM John Rowe via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi Patrick > > I have a similar on my early 3000 BT7 which was where the temp sender for > the electric choke was removed. > > Cheers > > John Rowe > > Qld Australia > > > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Patrick > & Caroline Quinn > *Sent:* Monday, 20 April 2020 11:05 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery > > > > Hello > > > > I have been sent a short article about the blanking plate fitted to the > front of the 100 engine. Photo attached. > > > > Would anyone know the purpose of the plate? Perhaps in other engine > installations the opening it covers serves another purpose? > > > > Thanks > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Sun Apr 19 21:24:54 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 03:24:54 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery In-Reply-To: References: <00f401d616af$c43dca40$4cb95ec0$@tpg.com.au> <000001d616b4$32e3e9d0$98abbd70$@com.au>, Message-ID: It is a cover for the water passage at the front of the engine block and next to the water pump. Maybe a different version of the engine had a different water pump or a bypass of some kind. It isn't related to an electric choke switch (AKA otter switch) because those switches have a symmetric triangular bolt pattern while the bolt pattern on this cover is asymmetric. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of i erbs Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 2:55 AM To: John Rowe Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery right electric choke, not temp sensor. Distracted by grading college homework. I should focus on my Healey list as top priority. But I did link to the correct Moss page. Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 7:28 PM John Rowe via Healeys > wrote: Hi Patrick I have a similar on my early 3000 BT7 which was where the temp sender for the electric choke was removed. Cheers John Rowe Qld Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: Monday, 20 April 2020 11:05 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery Hello I have been sent a short article about the blanking plate fitted to the front of the 100 engine. Photo attached. Would anyone know the purpose of the plate? 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URL: From varley at cosmos.net.au Sun Apr 19 22:21:34 2020 From: varley at cosmos.net.au (Larry Varley) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:21:34 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery In-Reply-To: <011e01d616b6$b0237120$106a5360$@tpg.com.au> References: <00f401d616af$c43dca40$4cb95ec0$@tpg.com.au> <011e01d616b6$b0237120$106a5360$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <001901d616cb$2e45b220$8ad11660$@cosmos.net.au> Hi Patrick, yes too deep. On the 2.2 litre version of the engine used in the L.D Vans during the 1960?s the same plate was there, but cast iron. The hole could simply be a casting core support hole but I don?t know that. Regards Larry Varley From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: 20 April 2020 11:55 To: 'Michael Salter' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery Hello It?s occurred to me that the blanking plate is there to act as a sacrificial anode. Or is that looking too deep into it? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn From: Michael Salter [mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 20 April 2020 11:45 AM To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Subject: Re: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery I haven't Pat, but I know that they corrode through and have often wondered why they were there. M On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 9:15 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: Hello I have been sent a short article about the blanking plate fitted to the front of the 100 engine. Photo attached. Would anyone know the purpose of the plate? Perhaps in other engine installations the opening it covers serves another purpose? Thanks Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia Virus-free. www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ah100register at gmail.com Mon Apr 20 03:03:19 2020 From: ah100register at gmail.com (John Harper) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 10:03:19 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery In-Reply-To: <001901d616cb$2e45b220$8ad11660$@cosmos.net.au> References: <00f401d616af$c43dca40$4cb95ec0$@tpg.com.au> <011e01d616b6$b0237120$106a5360$@tpg.com.au> <001901d616cb$2e45b220$8ad11660$@cosmos.net.au> Message-ID: Larry Yes I agree it is needed during the original casting but it also goes right back the Austin 16 that came out soon after WWII. Yes the triangular cover is make of a metal that easily corrodes. I fit one made of gunmetal. Best regards On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 05:22, Larry Varley wrote: > Hi Patrick, yes too deep. On the 2.2 litre version of the engine used in > the L.D Vans during the 1960?s the same plate was there, but cast iron. The > hole could simply be a casting core support hole but I don?t know that. > > Regards > > Larry Varley > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Patrick > & Caroline Quinn > *Sent:* 20 April 2020 11:55 > *To:* 'Michael Salter' > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery > > > > Hello > > > > It?s occurred to me that the blanking plate is there to act as a > sacrificial anode. Or is that looking too deep into it? > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > > > *From:* Michael Salter [mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, 20 April 2020 11:45 AM > *To:* Patrick & Caroline Quinn > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery > > > > I haven't Pat, but I know that they corrode through and have often > wondered why they were there. > > > > M > > > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 9:15 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn < > p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > > Hello > > > > I have been sent a short article about the blanking plate fitted to the > front of the 100 engine. Photo attached. > > > > Would anyone know the purpose of the plate? Perhaps in other engine > installations the opening it covers serves another purpose? > > > > Thanks > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com > > -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey100m at gmail.com Mon Apr 20 07:41:09 2020 From: healey100m at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 09:41:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery In-Reply-To: <00f401d616af$c43dca40$4cb95ec0$@tpg.com.au> References: <00f401d616af$c43dca40$4cb95ec0$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: The blanking plates are very soft and they will come apart. Photos of my 36,000 mile ?56 100M after the plate blew during a short drive. Certainly recommend checking the inside of the plate for wear during any rebuild or coolant change. Randy > On Apr 19, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: > > Hello > > I have been sent a short article about the blanking plate fitted to the front of the 100 engine. Photo attached. > > Would anyone know the purpose of the plate? Perhaps in other engine installations the opening it covers serves another purpose? > > Thanks > > Patrick Quinn > Blue Mountains, Australia > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Water Leak Close-up.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 81903 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Water Leak Wide.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 146983 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sgerow2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 20 12:54:53 2020 From: sgerow2 at gmail.com (Steve Gerow) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:54:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Seized steering box Message-ID: Ron, If you remove the top cover in situ, you should be able to move the rocker shaft up and down, maybe by tapping it with your lead hammer from bottom and top. You live near the ocean don't you? Maybe it rusted in place in the last few months. If you decide to drain the oil out, don't undo the front plate more than 1/8" or so for fear of unseating the rear bearing. You could drain the oil then fill up the box with kerosene and see if you could free it up. -- *Steve Gerow* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Mon Apr 20 17:43:36 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 23:43:36 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery In-Reply-To: References: <00f401d616af$c43dca40$4cb95ec0$@tpg.com.au>, Message-ID: The plate is cast aluminum. If the engine has ever been run on straight water as a coolant it will probably have been damaged by electrolytic corrosion. How is parts availability for this item. Might be tough... Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 1:41 PM To: Patrick Quinn Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery The blanking plates are very soft and they will come apart. Photos of my 36,000 mile ?56 100M after the plate blew during a short drive. Certainly recommend checking the inside of the plate for wear during any rebuild or coolant change. Randy [cid:8645691E-E5A2-4493-A0A3-9C512B8F96F5 at hsd1.ga.comcast.net.] [cid:69386569-4341-4493-8F1A-A8AD3E020545 at hsd1.ga.comcast.net.] On Apr 19, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn > wrote: Hello I have been sent a short article about the blanking plate fitted to the front of the 100 engine. Photo attached. Would anyone know the purpose of the plate? Perhaps in other engine installations the opening it covers serves another purpose? 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If the engine has ever been run on straight water as a coolant it will probably have been damaged by electrolytic corrosion. How is parts availability for this item. Might be tough... > > Bill Lawrence > BN1 #554 > From: Healeys on behalf of Randy Hicks > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 1:41 PM > To: Patrick Quinn > Cc: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery > > The blanking plates are very soft and they will come apart. Photos of my 36,000 mile ?56 100M after the plate blew during a short drive. > > Certainly recommend checking the inside of the plate for wear during any rebuild or coolant change. > > Randy > > > > > >> On Apr 19, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> I have been sent a short article about the blanking plate fitted to the front of the 100 engine. Photo attached. >> >> Would anyone know the purpose of the plate? Perhaps in other engine installations the opening it covers serves another purpose? >> >> Thanks >> >> Patrick Quinn >> Blue Mountains, Australia >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Apr 20 19:06:04 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:06:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery Message-ID: Listers I know originality can be important on occasion but making a 5/16 thick steel blanking plate to repair a corroded aluminum original is a 20 minute job including cutting a gasket from some gasket material. Moss is asking $57 for the part when their open. Gasket is not available from them. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Apr 21 06:20:47 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 08:20:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery In-Reply-To: <20200421010616.51620A0EC1@autox.team.net> References: <20200421010616.51620A0EC1@autox.team.net> Message-ID: And their cheepo repo is nothing like as beautifully made as the original. M On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 9:06 PM Perry via Healeys, wrote: > Listers > > I know originality can be important on occasion but making a 5/16 thick > steel blanking plate to repair a corroded aluminum original is a 20 minute > job including cutting a gasket from some gasket material. Moss is asking > $57 for the part when their open. Gasket is not available from them. > > Perry > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Tue Apr 21 07:18:09 2020 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 09:18:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery In-Reply-To: <20200421010632.52D72A0EA3@autox.team.net> References: <20200421010632.52D72A0EA3@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Concern for originality has been suspended until there is more widespread Concours testing. Best--Michael Oritt On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 9:06 PM Perry via Healeys wrote: > Listers > > I know originality can be important on occasion but making a 5/16 thick > steel blanking plate to repair a corroded aluminum original is a 20 minute > job including cutting a gasket from some gasket material. Moss is asking > $57 for the part when their open. Gasket is not available from them. > > Perry > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From javrugtman at htcnet.org Tue Apr 21 07:28:51 2020 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 09:28:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Blanking Plate - Water Gallery In-Reply-To: References: <20200421010632.52D72A0EA3@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <2a2e9794-5dcb-4cb4-cca4-a477823a43a2@htcnet.org> Friday funnies early on Tuesday On 4/21/2020 9:18 AM, Michael Oritt wrote: > Concern for originality has been suspended until there is more > widespread Concours testing. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 9:06 PM Perry via Healeys > > wrote: > > Listers > > I know originality can be important on occasion but making a 5/16 > thick steel blanking plate to repair a corroded aluminum original > is a 20 minute job including cutting a gasket from some gasket > material.? Moss is asking $57 for the part when their open. Gasket > is not available from them. > > Perry > > Sent from Mail > for Windows 10 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flyhihealey at gmail.com Tue Apr 21 15:32:57 2020 From: flyhihealey at gmail.com (Warren) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 17:32:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! Message-ID: <5e9f668d.1c69fb81.47f05.0d18@mx.google.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Tue Apr 21 16:14:18 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 22:14:18 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! Message-ID: <42ecd6b22d7a17ead612fb0169be2ea8bcea07c9@webmail> Warren- Don't know the OD problem you are experiencing, but suggest before you tear into it, undo and clean the check valve and ball on the top right side (if you haven't already done so). One small spot of dirt lodged in the valve drilling can kill the hydraulics and make it seem like a bigger issue. It may be worn parts, but, if not, this is an easy first test. If it is dirt; good idea to change oil and add fresh SAE 30W non detergent oil to the unit. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com -----------------------------------------From: "Warren" To: "healeys at autox.team.net" Cc: Sent: Tuesday April 21 2020 2:36:17PM Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5L7PfKtq3s&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR15n6aDLNtzuEWNq3O09-Nh74dkR1V_nhntcmLwq0EuYzrBINYiMySW_qc [2] Sent from Mail [3] for Windows 10 I should really get back to working on that accumulator OD problem now? WD 67 BJ8 Links: ------ [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5L7PfKtq3s&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR15n6aDLNtzuEWNq3O09-Nh74dkR1V_nhntcmLwq0EuYzrBINYiMySW_qc [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5L7PfKtq3s&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR15n6aDLNtzuEWNq3O09-Nh74dkR1V_nhntcmLwq0EuYzrBINYiMySW_qc [3] https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flyhihealey at gmail.com Tue Apr 21 17:48:53 2020 From: flyhihealey at gmail.com (Warren) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 19:48:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! Message-ID: <5e9f8668.1c69fb81.f12fe.2218@mx.google.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Tue Apr 21 18:03:25 2020 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:03:25 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! In-Reply-To: <5e9f668d.1c69fb81.47f05.0d18@mx.google.com> References: <5e9f668d.1c69fb81.47f05.0d18@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <3736ab$730rsl@icp-osb-irony-out6.iinet.net.au> ...only 3 gears & no overdrive? Some pretty dangerous overtaking too especially in a left hooker on UK roads! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Warren Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 7:36 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5L7PfKtq3s&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR15n6aDLNtzuEWNq3O09-Nh74dkR1V_nhntcmLwq0EuYzrBINYiMySW_qc Sent from Mail for Windows 10 I should really get back to working on that accumulator OD problem now? WD ?67 BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Tue Apr 21 18:36:58 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 00:36:58 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! In-Reply-To: <5e9f8668.1c69fb81.f12fe.2218@mx.google.com> References: <5e9f8668.1c69fb81.f12fe.2218@mx.google.com> Message-ID: The accumulator is in two pieces. There is an outer housing or liner which was used by Austin Healey to reduce the size of the accumulator piston and by that means the OD?s engagement force, and the smaller inner piston which actually stores the hydraulic force. In order to replace the O-rings you have to remove the housing first. To do this you need to block the motion of the piston. I?ve done it by holding the piston in place with a wooden dowel while applying air pressure to the control valve port. Any compressor you have should be sufficient to do this. Use a rag to catch the liner when it comes free as it will come out with some force. The liner is sealed with one O-ring on later ODs and that is where operating pressure is usually lost. The piston is sealed within the liner bore by steel rings. These are not usually the source of your problem. Good luck. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Warren Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:48 PM To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! Yes thanks for the tip. The problem is slow to engage. It was suggested maybe accumulator O ring. Just did pull the check valve and all. Did seem like dirty oil. I cleaned it all up. I?m already committed to extracting the accumulator and piston but wanted to replace all the tranny mounts and bushings which I did. Mounts were pretty squished and cracked. Bushings(radiator saver)were fairly solid but were replaced. They were the original. Cleaning and degreasing as I go along. If(?)it is the O ring or rings, I guess they are metal on the piston, I might just spring for a uprated from Dennis Welch or AH spares has a combo housing/piston both which have rubber O rings. Working my way to the extraction part. I want to use forced air through the operating valve but I only have a small air compressor for tires. Some kind of extraction tool would be helpful. (18G182) I have always changed tranny oil regularly. Used ND 30 early on. Using MT 90 now for many years. Any and all suggestions appreciated. WD 67 BJ8 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: gradea1 at charter.net Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 6:14 PM To: Warren Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! Warren- Don't know the OD problem you are experiencing, but suggest before you tear into it, undo and clean the check valve and ball on the top right side (if you haven't already done so). One small spot of dirt lodged in the valve drilling can kill the hydraulics and make it seem like a bigger issue. It may be worn parts, but, if not, this is an easy first test. If it is dirt; good idea to change oil and add fresh SAE 30W non detergent oil to the unit. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com ----------------------------------------- From: "Warren" To: "healeys at autox.team.net" Cc: Sent: Tuesday April 21 2020 2:36:17PM Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5L7PfKtq3s&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR15n6aDLNtzuEWNq3O09-Nh74dkR1V_nhntcmLwq0EuYzrBINYiMySW_qc Sent from Mail for Windows 10 I should really get back to working on that accumulator OD problem now? WD 67 BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Apr 21 19:35:20 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 18:35:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! In-Reply-To: References: <5e9f8668.1c69fb81.f12fe.2218@mx.google.com> Message-ID: There are also O-rings on the two pistons that push against the strong springs, disengage the cone clutch and lock the sun gear, which causes the OD to engage.? These are supplied by the accumulator when the operating cross-shaft is rotated by the solenoid; they have rings, too; I believe earlier cars had steel rings and later ones have rubber O-rings.? Unfortunately, the only way to inspect these pistons is removal and break-down of the OD. I have the DW 'uprated' accumulator--which is probably similar to if not the same as a TR's (the liner is removed)--and it decreases OD engagement time by at least a third. Bob On 4/21/2020 5:36 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > The accumulator is in two pieces. There is an outer housing or liner > which was used by Austin Healey to reduce the size of the accumulator > piston and by that means the OD?s engagement force, and the smaller > inner piston which actually stores the hydraulic force. In order to > replace the O-rings you have to remove the housing first. To do this > you need to block the motion of the piston. I?ve done it by holding > the piston in place with a wooden dowel while applying air pressure to > the control valve port. Any compressor you have should be sufficient > to do this. Use a rag to catch the liner when it comes free as it will > come out with some force. The liner is sealed with one O-ring on later > ODs and that is where operating pressure is usually lost. The piston > is sealed within the liner bore by steel rings. These are not usually > ?the source of your problem. > > Good luck. > > Bill Lawrence > BN1 #554 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Warren > > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:48 PM > *To:* gradea1 at charter.net > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! > > Yes thanks for the tip. The problem is slow to engage. It was > suggested maybe accumulator O ring. Just did pull the check valve and > all. Did seem like dirty oil. I cleaned it all up. I?m already > committed to extracting the accumulator and piston but wanted to > replace all the tranny mounts and bushings which I did. Mounts were > pretty squished and cracked. Bushings(radiator saver)were fairly solid > but were replaced. ?They were the original. Cleaning and degreasing as > I go along. > > If(?)it is the O ring or rings, I guess they are metal on the piston, > I might just spring for a uprated from Dennis Welch or AH spares has a > combo housing/piston both which have rubber O rings. > > Working my way to the extraction part. I want to use forced air > through the operating valve but I only have a small air compressor for > tires. Some kind of extraction tool would be helpful. (18G182) I have > always changed tranny oil regularly. Used ND 30 early on. Using MT 90 > now for many years. > > Any and all suggestions appreciated. > > WD? 67 BJ8 > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *gradea1 at charter.net > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 21, 2020 6:14 PM > *To: *Warren > *Cc: *healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *RE: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! > > Warren- Don't know the OD problem you are experiencing, but suggest > before you tear into it, undo and clean the check valve and ball on > the top right side (if you haven't already done so). One small spot of > dirt lodged in the valve drilling can kill the hydraulics and make it > seem like a bigger issue. It may be worn parts, but, if not, this is > an easy first test.? If it is dirt; good idea to change oil and add > fresh SAE 30W non detergent oil to the unit. Regards, Hank, > healeyhelper.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Warren" > To: "healeys at autox.team.net" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday April 21 2020 2:36:17PM > Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5L7PfKtq3s&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR15n6aDLNtzuEWNq3O09-Nh74dkR1V_nhntcmLwq0EuYzrBINYiMySW_qc > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > I should really get back to working on that accumulator OD problem now? > > WD ?67 BJ8 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradea1 at charter.net Tue Apr 21 23:10:00 2020 From: gradea1 at charter.net (gradea1 at charter.net) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 05:10:00 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! Message-ID: <43cb34cce8b170263b16e55846476e57f72a5cb7@webmail> UH OH! that is your slugglish issue! I would drain that oil (for rear ends) and replace it with the 30W ND. That rear end oil foams in the annullus and plays hell with the spring pressure, passage thru the system and fast clutch engagement. Check it out on the web...that heavy fish oil is not for British Trannys. If you put the heavy stuff in to stop leaks, that's not the answer; neither is synthetic-too thin.The gearbox and OD were designed to run on conventional oil...ancient as it may seem. Yes, a small air compressor is enough of a blast to clear passages.You will probably hear the clutch pistons engage if air is put on the valve opening. If you remove the spring, ball, and plunger with a magnet, you can then extract the valve and run a small wire down the middle to clean it-then a blast of air-be careful to not get any lint from a shop rag into the mix. Upon rebuilding a unit it is "suggested" to carefully enlarge the valve hole to 1mm (but cleanliness is probably best solution). The new pistons sold today, and made by Overdrive Spares, (old Laycock group) are equipped with rubber o-rings. Good that you replaced the tire bushings! Hank -----------------------------------------From: "Warren" To: "gradea1 at charter.net" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday April 21 2020 4:48:59PM Subject: RE: RE: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! Yes thanks for the tip. The problem is slow to engage. It was suggested maybe accumulator O ring. Just did pull the check valve and all. Did seem like dirty oil. I cleaned it all up. I?m already committed to extracting the accumulator and piston but wanted to replace all the tranny mounts and bushings which I did. Mounts were pretty squished and cracked. Bushings(radiator saver)were fairly solid but were replaced. They were the original. Cleaning and degreasing as I go along. If(?)it is the O ring or rings, I guess they are metal on the piston, I might just spring for a uprated from Dennis Welch or AH spares has a combo housing/piston both which have rubber O rings. Working my way to the extraction part. I want to use forced air through the operating valve but I only have a small air compressor for tires. Some kind of extraction tool would be helpful. (18G182) I have always changed tranny oil regularly. Used ND 30 early on. Using MT 90 now for many years. Any and all suggestions appreciated. WD 67 BJ8 Sent from Mail [1] for Windows 10 FROM: gradea1 at charter.net [2] SENT: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 6:14 PM TO: Warren [3] CC: healeys at autox.team.net [4] SUBJECT: RE: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! Warren- Don't know the OD problem you are experiencing, but suggest before you tear into it, undo and clean the check valve and ball on the top right side (if you haven't already done so). One small spot of dirt lodged in the valve drilling can kill the hydraulics and make it seem like a bigger issue. It may be worn parts, but, if not, this is an easy first test. If it is dirt; good idea to change oil and add fresh SAE 30W non detergent oil to the unit. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com ----------------------------------------- From: "Warren" To: "healeys at autox.team.net" Cc: Sent: Tuesday April 21 2020 2:36:17PM Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! [5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5L7PfKtq3s&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR15n6aDLNtzuEWNq3O09-Nh74dkR1V_nhntcmLwq0EuYzrBINYiMySW_qc [6] Sent from Mail [7] for Windows 10 I should really get back to working on that accumulator OD problem now? 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Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves.? The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush.? I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). ? Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block.? My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts.? I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head.? No idea what my pea brain was thinking.? Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8")? size.? I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there.? I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week.? That made me look at the front of my block.? Three studs and an empty hole.? No cover.? I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set.? Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers.? Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts.? If so, what size?? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with.? Once again, Whitworth?? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have.Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flyhihealey at gmail.com Wed Apr 22 03:09:58 2020 From: flyhihealey at gmail.com (Warren) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 05:09:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! Message-ID: <5ea009e8.1c69fb81.8fc7.63f4@mx.google.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at gmail.com Wed Apr 22 07:58:54 2020 From: healeydoc at gmail.com (David Nock) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 06:58:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from each other. The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling system. David Nock Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > ? > So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. > Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed Apr 22 17:22:33 2020 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 09:22:33 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> G?day Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many variations of each for specific purposes. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from each other. The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling system. David Nock Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: ? So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. 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URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Wed Apr 22 18:20:12 2020 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 01:20:12 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been peculiar to the army. Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23 To: 'David Nock' ; 'Michael MacLean' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant G?day Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many variations of each for specific purposes. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from each other. The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling system. David Nock Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > wrote: ? So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Wed Apr 22 19:20:37 2020 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 18:20:37 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! In-Reply-To: <5ea009e8.1c69fb81.8fc7.63f4@mx.google.com> References: <5ea009e8.1c69fb81.8fc7.63f4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1F058EE734C14A018F8210FE6EDF058C@AllInOne> I see the lubricant debate continues unabated. My prediction is there will be a cure for COVID-19 before there is a consensus on what is the best lubricant to use in the engine, gear box and differential. I did some research into the topic a year or so ago. The attached spreadsheet has a summary for what was recommended 50 years ago compared to what is available today. For the record this is what I use: Engine - Castrol Classic XL 20W-50 (Note - Contains 800 ppm ZDDP) Gearbox - Pennzoil GL-4 Manual Transmission oil 75W-90 (remember there is a convention gear box in front of the OD gear oils unlike engine oils have pressure additives) Differential - Pennzoil GL-5 Axle and Gear Oil 80W-90 Let the debate continue! Stay safe ... Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Warren Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 2:10 AM To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! This is my understanding of Redline MT 90 transmission oil. Not for differentials. I will return to ND 30 if this is a problem in my OD? My Healey(original owner) has over 190,000 miles. Tranny and OD are untouched until this year. Not really surprised with some wear. MT 90 has smoothed shifting but leaks a lot! WD 67 BJ8 This is a great upgrade for your manual trans! This is one of the easiest "mods" to do for your trans. Drain old fluid, pour this in. The trans will shift quicker, feel less notchy, less wear on its components, etc! . Appropriate coefficient of friction for most manual transmission synchronizers (other's synthetic gear oils are often too slippery for proper synchro engagement) . Red Line offers lubricants to pinpoint nearly every transmission application . MT-90 is not for use in differentials with hypoid gears . Excellent gear and synchro protection, balanced slipperiness for easier shifting in cold climates . Excellent for high- and low-mile transmissions . Compatible with petroleums and other synthetics . 75W90 GL-4 gear oil (similar to SAE 5W40/10W40 engine oil viscosity) . Offers quicker shifts, perfect synchronizer coefficient of friction . Safe for brass synchros, as it lacks the reactive sulfurs found in most GL-5 oils that cause damage . High performance gear protection and longer synchro life . Eliminates notchy shifting, even when cold . Satisfies the gear oil viscosity requirements of 75W, 80W and motor oil viscosities of SAE 40, 10W40, and 15W40 . Recommended for GL-1, GL-3, and GL-4 applications, as well as where most special synchromesh fluids are specified Most manual transmissions take a little over 2 quarts of fluid. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: gradea1 at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 1:10 AM To: Warren Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: RE: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! UH OH! that is your slugglish issue! I would drain that oil (for rear ends) and replace it with the 30W ND. That rear end oil foams in the annullus and plays hell with the spring pressure, passage thru the system and fast clutch engagement. Check it out on the web...that heavy fish oil is not for British Trannys. If you put the heavy stuff in to stop leaks, that's not the answer; neither is synthetic-too thin.The gearbox and OD were designed to run on conventional oil...ancient as it may seem. Yes, a small air compressor is enough of a blast to clear passages.You will probably hear the clutch pistons engage if air is put on the valve opening. If you remove the spring, ball, and plunger with a magnet, you can then extract the valve and run a small wire down the middle to clean it-then a blast of air-be careful to not get any lint from a shop rag into the mix. Upon rebuilding a unit it is "suggested" to carefully enlarge the valve hole to 1mm (but cleanliness is probably best solution). The new pistons sold today, and made by Overdrive Spares, (old Laycock group) are equipped with rubber o-rings. Good that you replaced the tire bushings! Hank ----------------------------------------- From: "Warren" To: "gradea1 at charter.net" Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday April 21 2020 4:48:59PM Subject: RE: RE: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! Yes thanks for the tip. The problem is slow to engage. It was suggested maybe accumulator O ring. Just did pull the check valve and all. Did seem like dirty oil. I cleaned it all up. I'm already committed to extracting the accumulator and piston but wanted to replace all the tranny mounts and bushings which I did. Mounts were pretty squished and cracked. Bushings(radiator saver)were fairly solid but were replaced. They were the original. Cleaning and degreasing as I go along. If(?)it is the O ring or rings, I guess they are metal on the piston, I might just spring for a uprated from Dennis Welch or AH spares has a combo housing/piston both which have rubber O rings. Working my way to the extraction part. I want to use forced air through the operating valve but I only have a small air compressor for tires. Some kind of extraction tool would be helpful. (18G182) I have always changed tranny oil regularly. Used ND 30 early on. Using MT 90 now for many years. Any and all suggestions appreciated. WD 67 BJ8 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: gradea1 at charter.net Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 6:14 PM To: Warren Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! Warren- Don't know the OD problem you are experiencing, but suggest before you tear into it, undo and clean the check valve and ball on the top right side (if you haven't already done so). One small spot of dirt lodged in the valve drilling can kill the hydraulics and make it seem like a bigger issue. It may be worn parts, but, if not, this is an easy first test. If it is dirt; good idea to change oil and add fresh SAE 30W non detergent oil to the unit. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com ----------------------------------------- From: "Warren" To: "healeys at autox.team.net" Cc: Sent: Tuesday April 21 2020 2:36:17PM Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5L7PfKtq3s &feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR15n6aDLNtzuEWNq3O09-Nh74dkR1V_nhntcmLwq0EuYzrBI NYiMySW_qc Sent from Mail for Windows 10 I should really get back to working on that accumulator OD problem now? WD 67 BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The attached spreadsheet has a > summary for what was recommended 50 years ago compared to what is available > today. For the record this is what I use: > > Engine - *Castrol Classic XL 20W*-*50 (Note - Contains 800 ppm ZDDP)* > *Gearbox - Pennzoil GL-4 Manual Transmission oil 75W-90 (remember there is > a convention gear box in front of the OD gear oils unlike engine oils have > pressure additives)* > *Differential - Pennzoil GL-5 Axle and Gear Oil 80W-90* > > *Let the debate continue!* > > *Stay safe ... Harold* > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of * > Warren > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 2:10 AM > *To:* gradea1 at charter.net > *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! > > This is my understanding of Redline MT 90 *transmission oil*. Not for > differentials. I will return to ND 30 if this is a problem in my OD? My > Healey(original owner) has over 190,000 miles. Tranny and OD are untouched > until this year. Not really surprised with some wear. MT 90 has smoothed > shifting but leaks a lot! > > > > WD 67 BJ8 > > > > This is a great upgrade for your manual trans! This is one of the easiest > "mods" to do for your trans. Drain old fluid, pour this in. The trans will > shift quicker, feel less notchy, less wear on its components, etc! > > ? Appropriate coefficient of friction for most manual transmission > synchronizers (other's synthetic gear oils are often too slippery for > proper synchro engagement) > > ? Red Line offers lubricants to pinpoint nearly every transmission > application > > ? MT-90 is not for use in differentials with hypoid gears > > ? Excellent gear and synchro protection, balanced slipperiness for > easier shifting in cold climates > > ? Excellent for high- and low-mile transmissions > > ? Compatible with petroleums and other synthetics > > ? 75W90 GL-4 gear oil (similar to SAE 5W40/10W40 engine oil > viscosity) > > ? Offers quicker shifts, perfect synchronizer coefficient of > friction > > ? Safe for brass synchros, as it lacks the reactive sulfurs found > in most GL-5 oils that cause damage > > ? High performance gear protection and longer synchro life > > ? Eliminates notchy shifting, even when cold > > ? Satisfies the gear oil viscosity requirements of 75W, 80W and > motor oil viscosities of SAE 40, 10W40, and 15W40 > > ? Recommended for GL-1, GL-3, and GL-4 applications, as well as > where most special synchromesh fluids are specified > > Most manual transmissions take a little over 2 quarts of fluid. > > > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *gradea1 at charter.net > *Sent: *Wednesday, April 22, 2020 1:10 AM > *To: *Warren > *Cc: *healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *RE: RE: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! > > > > UH OH! that is your slugglish issue! I would drain that oil (for rear > ends) and replace it with the 30W ND. That rear end oil foams in the > annullus and plays hell with the spring pressure, passage thru the system > and fast clutch engagement. Check it out on the web...that heavy fish oil > is not for British Trannys. If you put the heavy stuff in to stop leaks, > that's not the answer; neither is synthetic-too thin.The gearbox and OD > were designed to run on conventional oil...ancient as it may seem. Yes, a > small air compressor is enough of a blast to clear passages.You will > probably hear the clutch pistons engage if air is put on the valve > opening. If you remove the spring, ball, and plunger with a magnet, you > can then extract the valve and run a small wire down the middle to clean > it-then a blast of air-be careful to not get any lint from a shop rag into > the mix. Upon rebuilding a unit it is "suggested" to carefully enlarge the > valve hole to 1mm (but cleanliness is probably best solution). The new > pistons sold today, and made by Overdrive Spares, (old Laycock group) are > equipped with rubber o-rings. Good that you replaced the tire bushings! Hank > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Warren" > To: "gradea1 at charter.net" > Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" > Sent: Tuesday April 21 2020 4:48:59PM > Subject: RE: RE: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! > > Yes thanks for the tip. The problem is slow to engage. It was suggested > maybe accumulator O ring. Just did pull the check valve and all. Did seem > like dirty oil. I cleaned it all up. I?m already committed to extracting > the accumulator and piston but wanted to replace all the tranny mounts and > bushings which I did. Mounts were pretty squished and cracked. > Bushings(radiator saver)were fairly solid but were replaced. They were the > original. Cleaning and degreasing as I go along. > > > > If(?)it is the O ring or rings, I guess they are metal on the piston, I > might just spring for a uprated from Dennis Welch or AH spares has a combo > housing/piston both which have rubber O rings. > > > > Working my way to the extraction part. I want to use forced air through > the operating valve but I only have a small air compressor for tires. Some > kind of extraction tool would be helpful. (18G182) I have always changed > tranny oil regularly. Used ND 30 early on. Using MT 90 now for many years. > > > > Any and all suggestions appreciated. > > > > WD 67 BJ8 > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *gradea1 at charter.net > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 21, 2020 6:14 PM > *To: *Warren > *Cc: *healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *RE: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! > > > > Warren- Don't know the OD problem you are experiencing, but suggest before > you tear into it, undo and clean the check valve and ball on the top right > side (if you haven't already done so). One small spot of dirt lodged in the > valve drilling can kill the hydraulics and make it seem like a bigger > issue. It may be worn parts, but, if not, this is an easy first test. If > it is dirt; good idea to change oil and add fresh SAE 30W non detergent oil > to the unit. Regards, Hank, healeyhelper.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Warren" > To: "healeys at autox.team.net" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday April 21 2020 2:36:17PM > Subject: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5L7PfKtq3s&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR15n6aDLNtzuEWNq3O09-Nh74dkR1V_nhntcmLwq0EuYzrBINYiMySW_qc > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > I should really get back to working on that accumulator OD problem now? > > > > WD 67 BJ8 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Thu Apr 23 12:12:41 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:12:41 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au>, <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been peculiar to the army. Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23 To: 'David Nock' ; 'Michael MacLean' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant G?day Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many variations of each for specific purposes. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from each other. The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling system. David Nock Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > wrote: ? So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Apr 23 13:13:10 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 12:13:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover > that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short > block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I > assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM > castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. > > Bill Lawrence > BN1 #554 > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of > simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM > *To:* 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of > Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may > have been peculiar to the army. > > Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Patrick & > Caroline Quinn > *Sent:* 23 April 2020 00:23 > *To:* 'David Nock' ; 'Michael MacLean' < > rrengineer.mike at att.net> > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > G?day > > > > Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of > the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I > still have them. > > > > Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 > BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many > variations of each for specific purposes. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > ] *On Behalf Of *David Nock > *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM > *To:* Michael MacLean > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a > coarse thread. > > However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from > each other. > > > > The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 > bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the > cooling system. > > David Nock > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > wrote: > > ? > > So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made > sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car > Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The > two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I > have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to > torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I > only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of > washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found > out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket > set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about > the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at > the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I > managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my > gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if > these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what > size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the > block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get > to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. > > Mike MacLean > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com > > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Thu Apr 23 19:17:13 2020 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 01:17:13 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> , Message-ID: I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The design predated metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 ________________________________ From: i erbs Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com ; Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > wrote: In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 ________________________________ From: Healeys > on behalf of simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' > Cc: 'Healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been peculiar to the army. Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. Simon From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23 To: 'David Nock' >; 'Michael MacLean' > Cc: 'Healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant G?day Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many variations of each for specific purposes. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from each other. The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling system. David Nock Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > wrote: ? So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. 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URL: From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Thu Apr 23 19:46:02 2020 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 13:46:02 +1200 Subject: [Healeys] Oils - engine and gearbox Message-ID: <000e01d619da$1db2cb70$59186250$@xtra.co.nz> The oil I use in my 100 and 3000 is the excellent Australian oil, PENRITE 20W-60 made for older cars such as ours. I know a lot of Australian and New Zealand owners use it. That said, I don?t know how far afield it is exported. I also use RED LINE MT-90 in the gearbox and overdrive. Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Michael Oritt Sent: Thursday, 23 April 2020 11:18 p.m. To: Harold Manifold Cc: Warren ; gradea1 at charter.net; Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! Harold-- For the engine I prefer a bit higher zinc, etc. level and use a ZDDP additive, but I agree with your choices for the gearbox and diff and use lubes of the same grades though of different brands. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 9:32 PM Harold Manifold > wrote: I see the lubricant debate continues unabated. My prediction is there will be a cure for COVID-19 before there is a consensus on what is the best lubricant to use in the engine, gear box and differential. I did some research into the topic a year or so ago. The attached spreadsheet has a summary for what was recommended 50 years ago compared to what is available today. For the record this is what I use: Engine - Castrol Classic XL 20W-50 (Note - Contains 800 ppm ZDDP) Gearbox - Pennzoil GL-4 Manual Transmission oil 75W-90 (remember there is a convention gear box in front of the OD gear oils unlike engine oils have pressure additives) Differential - Pennzoil GL-5 Axle and Gear Oil 80W-90 Let the debate continue! Stay safe ... Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Warren Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 2:10 AM To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! This is my understanding of Redline MT 90 transmission oil. Not for differentials. I will return to ND 30 if this is a problem in my OD? My Healey(original owner) has over 190,000 miles. Tranny and OD are untouched until this year. Not really surprised with some wear. MT 90 has smoothed shifting but leaks a lot! WD 67 BJ8 This is a great upgrade for your manual trans! This is one of the easiest "mods" to do for your trans. Drain old fluid, pour this in. The trans will shift quicker, feel less notchy, less wear on its components, etc! * Appropriate coefficient of friction for most manual transmission synchronizers (other's synthetic gear oils are often too slippery for proper synchro engagement) * Red Line offers lubricants to pinpoint nearly every transmission application * MT-90 is not for use in differentials with hypoid gears * Excellent gear and synchro protection, balanced slipperiness for easier shifting in cold climates * Excellent for high- and low-mile transmissions * Compatible with petroleums and other synthetics * 75W90 GL-4 gear oil (similar to SAE 5W40/10W40 engine oil viscosity) * Offers quicker shifts, perfect synchronizer coefficient of friction * Safe for brass synchros, as it lacks the reactive sulfurs found in most GL-5 oils that cause damage * High performance gear protection and longer synchro life * Eliminates notchy shifting, even when cold * Satisfies the gear oil viscosity requirements of 75W, 80W and motor oil viscosities of SAE 40, 10W40, and 15W40 * Recommended for GL-1, GL-3, and GL-4 applications, as well as where most special synchromesh fluids are specified Most manual transmissions take a little over 2 quarts of fluid. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The design predated > metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime > in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while > changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more > costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. > > Bill Lawrence > BN1 #554 > ------------------------------ > *From:* i erbs > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM > *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com ; > Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not > converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact > situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > > In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover > that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short > block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I > assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM > castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. > > Bill Lawrence > BN1 #554 > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of > simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM > *To:* 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of > Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may > have been peculiar to the army. > > Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Patrick & > Caroline Quinn > *Sent:* 23 April 2020 00:23 > *To:* 'David Nock' ; 'Michael MacLean' < > rrengineer.mike at att.net> > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > G?day > > > > Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of > the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I > still have them. > > > > Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 > BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many > variations of each for specific purposes. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > ] *On Behalf Of *David Nock > *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM > *To:* Michael MacLean > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a > coarse thread. > > However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from > each other. > > > > The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 > bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the > cooling system. > > David Nock > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > wrote: > > ? > > So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made > sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car > Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The > two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I > have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to > torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I > only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of > washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found > out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket > set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about > the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at > the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I > managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my > gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if > these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what > size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the > block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get > to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. > > Mike MacLean > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com > > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Thu Apr 23 20:04:30 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 02:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Oils - engine and gearbox In-Reply-To: <000e01d619da$1db2cb70$59186250$@xtra.co.nz> References: <000e01d619da$1db2cb70$59186250$@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: <1068358360.723367.1587693871001@mail.yahoo.com> Restoration Supply Company in Escondido, California sells all the Penrite oils.?? restorationstuff.comMike MacLean On Thursday, April 23, 2020, 6:47:11 PM PDT, Mark Donaldson wrote: The oil I use in my 100 and 3000 is the excellent Australian oil, PENRITE 20W-60 made for older cars such as ours. I know a lot of Australian and New Zealand owners use it.? That said, I don?t know how far afield it is exported. I also use RED LINE MT-90 in the gearbox and overdrive. ? Mark Ardmore, NZ ? ? From: Michael Oritt Sent: Thursday, 23 April 2020 11:18 p.m. To: Harold Manifold Cc: Warren ; gradea1 at charter.net; Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! ? Harold-- ? For the engine I prefer a bit higher zinc, etc. level and use a ZDDP additive, but I agree with your choices for the gearbox and diff and use lubes of the same grades though of different brands. ? Best--Michael Oritt ? On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 9:32 PM Harold Manifold wrote: I see the lubricant debate continues unabated. My prediction is there will be a cure for COVID-19 before there is a consensus on what is the best lubricant to use in the engine, gear box and differential. I did some research into the topic a year or so ago. The attached spreadsheet has a summary for what was recommended 50 years ago compared to what is available today. For the record this is what I use: ? Engine - Castrol Classic XL 20W-50 (Note - Contains 800 ppm ZDDP) Gearbox - Pennzoil GL-4 Manual Transmission oil 75W-90 (remember there is a convention gear box in front of the OD gear oils unlike engine oils have pressure?additives) Differential - Pennzoil GL-5 Axle and Gear Oil 80W-90 ? Let the debate continue! ? Stay safe ... Harold ? ? ? From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Warren Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 2:10 AM To: gradea1 at charter.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Drove the Healey today?! This is my understanding of Redline MT 90 transmission oil. Not for differentials. I will return to ND 30 if this is a problem in my OD? My Healey(original owner) has over 190,000 miles. Tranny and OD are untouched until this year. Not really surprised with some wear. MT 90 has smoothed shifting but leaks a lot! ? WD 67 BJ8 ? This is a great upgrade for your manual trans! This is one of the easiest "mods" to do for your trans. Drain old fluid, pour this in. The trans will shift quicker, feel less notchy, less wear on its components, etc! ??????? Appropriate coefficient of friction for most manual transmission synchronizers (other's synthetic gear oils are often too slippery for proper synchro engagement) ??????? Red Line offers lubricants to pinpoint nearly every transmission application ??????? MT-90 is not for use in differentials with hypoid gears ??????? Excellent gear and synchro protection, balanced slipperiness for easier shifting in cold climates ??????? Excellent for high- and low-mile transmissions ??????? Compatible with petroleums and other synthetics ??????? 75W90 GL-4 gear oil (similar to SAE 5W40/10W40 engine oil viscosity) ??????? Offers quicker shifts, perfect synchronizer coefficient of friction ??????? Safe for brass synchros, as it lacks the reactive sulfurs found in most GL-5 oils that cause damage ??????? High performance gear protection and longer synchro life ??????? Eliminates notchy shifting, even when cold ??????? Satisfies the gear oil viscosity requirements of 75W, 80W and motor oil viscosities of SAE 40, 10W40, and 15W40 ??????? Recommended for GL-1, GL-3, and GL-4 applications, as well as where most special synchromesh fluids are specified Most manual transmissions take a little over 2 quarts of fluid. ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As did a pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed. EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. Etcetc Finally: EU: ?You will obey?. UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as ?pints? whilst acknowledging that they contain 568.261ml litres each. EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? Simon From: i erbs Sent: 24 April 2020 02:55 To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com; Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada and mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so factories there could use metric tools Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > wrote: I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The design predated metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 _____ From: i erbs > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com >; Patrick & Caroline Quinn >; Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > wrote: In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 _____ From: Healeys > on behalf of simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' > Cc: 'Healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been peculiar to the army. Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. Simon From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23 To: 'David Nock' >; 'Michael MacLean' > Cc: 'Healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant G?day Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many variations of each for specific purposes. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from each other. The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling system. David Nock Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > wrote: ? So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I bought a side mirror for a '55 Thunderbird; it didn't come with the needed screws--one was sheet metal, one was machine threads--and the original screws I had for the broken mirror didn't fit, nor did any of the jillions of English-sized screws I have in small boxes and bags scattered about (it would have been a 'size 12,' or eighth-inch or so if it was English).? I had to order a 'screw set' for the mirror from the supplier; the machine screw in the kit did indeed fit.? The mirror was made in Taiwan, and I presume all Chinese/Taiwanese stuff uses metric fasteners. A lot of the T-Bird's parts I've ordered are poor quality, or don't fit well, but I guess I should be thankful I can get them at all. Compared to this, the Healey parts suppliers appear to be at least /trying/ to supply parts that fit. Bob On 4/24/2020 2:13 AM, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com wrote: > > ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but had > ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I recall that > all oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US domination in that > area? And planes??? > > I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into the > Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups > along the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk > whilst milk bottles still existed. > > EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. > > UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. > > Etcetc Finally: > > EU: ?You will obey?. > > UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper > beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as > ?pints? whilst acknowledging that they contain > > 568.261ml litres each. > > EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. > > Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? > > Simon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Fri Apr 24 09:45:19 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:45:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: "*A lot of the T-Bird's parts I've ordered are poor quality, or don't fit well*," Has a familiar ring ? M On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 11:38 AM Bob Spidell, wrote: > Sadly, the USA doesn't 'make' much of anything anymore--maybe that will > change, maybe it won't--but we're getting 'metricfied' bit-by-bit. I > bought a side mirror for a '55 Thunderbird; it didn't come with the needed > screws--one was sheet metal, one was machine threads--and the original > screws I had for the broken mirror didn't fit, nor did any of the jillions > of English-sized screws I have in small boxes and bags scattered about (it > would have been a 'size 12,' or eighth-inch or so if it was English). I > had to order a 'screw set' for the mirror from the supplier; the machine > screw in the kit did indeed fit. The mirror was made in Taiwan, and I > presume all Chinese/Taiwanese stuff uses metric fasteners. > > A lot of the T-Bird's parts I've ordered are poor quality, or don't fit > well, but I guess I should be thankful I can get them at all. Compared to > this, the Healey parts suppliers appear to be at least *trying* to supply > parts that fit. > > Bob > > On 4/24/2020 2:13 AM, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com wrote: > > ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but had > ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I recall that all > oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US domination in that area? And > planes??? > > I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into the Common > Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups along the > way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk > bottles still existed. > > EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. > > UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. > > Etcetc Finally: > > EU: ?You will obey?. > > UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper beer > unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as ?pints? > whilst acknowledging that they contain > > 568.261ml litres each. > > EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. > > Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? > > Simon > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Apr 24 10:04:34 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:04:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Yup, The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a storm over the cost to convert, so it never officially happened. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM wrote: > ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but had > ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I recall that all > oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US domination in that area? And > planes??? > > I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into the Common > Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups along the > way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk > bottles still existed. > > EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. > > UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. > > Etcetc Finally: > > EU: ?You will obey?. > > UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper beer > unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as ?pints? > whilst acknowledging that they contain > > 568.261ml litres each. > > EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. > > Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? > > Simon > > > > > > *From:* i erbs > *Sent:* 24 April 2020 02:55 > *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com; Patrick & Caroline Quinn < > p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>; Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada and > mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so factories > there could use metric tools > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > > I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used the > UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The design predated > metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime > in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while > changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more > costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. > > > > Bill Lawrence > > BN1 #554 > ------------------------------ > > *From:* i erbs > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM > *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com ; > Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not > converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact > situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > > In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover > that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short > block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I > assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM > castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. > > > > Bill Lawrence > > BN1 #554 > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Healeys on behalf of > simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM > *To:* 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of > Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may > have been peculiar to the army. > > Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Patrick & > Caroline Quinn > *Sent:* 23 April 2020 00:23 > *To:* 'David Nock' ; 'Michael MacLean' < > rrengineer.mike at att.net> > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > G?day > > > > Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of > the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I > still have them. > > > > Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 > BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many > variations of each for specific purposes. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > ] *On Behalf Of *David Nock > *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM > *To:* Michael MacLean > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a > coarse thread. > > However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from > each other. > > > > The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 > bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the > cooling system. > > David Nock > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > wrote: > > ? > > So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made > sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car > Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The > two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I > have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to > torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I > only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of > washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found > out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket > set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about > the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at > the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I > managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my > gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if > these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what > size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the > block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? 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Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 372 bytes Desc: not available URL: From 55healey at comcast.net Fri Apr 24 10:48:16 2020 From: 55healey at comcast.net (55healey at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:48:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <2A53B747-6E82-4986-8B47-A198155EC28E@comcast.net> I figured it was just an excuse for the wrench manufacturers so they could continue making 2 sets of wrenches. > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, i erbs wrote: > > Yup, > The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a storm over the cost to convert, so it never officially happened. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM wrote: > ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but had ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I recall that all oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US domination in that area? And planes??? > > I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into the Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups along the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed. > > EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. > > UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. > > Etcetc Finally: > > EU: ?You will obey?. > > UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as ?pints? whilst acknowledging that they contain > > 568.261ml litres each. > > EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. > > Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? > > Simon > > > > > > From: i erbs > Sent: 24 April 2020 02:55 > To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com; Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada and mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so factories there could use metric tools > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > > I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The design predated metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. > > > > Bill Lawrence > > BN1 #554 > > From: i erbs > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM > To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com ; Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > > In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. > > > > Bill Lawrence > > BN1 #554 > > From: Healeys on behalf of simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM > To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' > Cc: 'Healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been peculiar to the army. > > Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. > > Simon > > > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn > Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23 > To: 'David Nock' ; 'Michael MacLean' > Cc: 'Healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > G?day > > > > Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. > > > > Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many variations of each for specific purposes. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock > Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM > To: Michael MacLean > Cc: Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. > > However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from each other. > > > > The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling system. > > David Nock > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > ? > > So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. > > Mike MacLean > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/55healey at comcast.net From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Apr 24 10:50:42 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:50:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: <2A53B747-6E82-4986-8B47-A198155EC28E@comcast.net> References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <2A53B747-6E82-4986-8B47-A198155EC28E@comcast.net> Message-ID: I think they would rather make one type moving forward. Cheaper costs fir them, increased cost fir everyone else. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 9:48 AM 55healey at comcast.net <55healey at comcast.net> wrote: > I figured it was just an excuse for the wrench manufacturers so they could > continue making 2 sets of wrenches. > > > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, i erbs wrote: > > > > Yup, > > The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a > storm over the cost to convert, so it never officially happened. > > > > Ira Erbs > > Portland,OR > > 59 BN4 > > 67MGB > > 65 AH Sprite > > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM wrote: > > ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but had > ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I recall that all > oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US domination in that area? And > planes??? > > > > I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into the > Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups along > the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk > bottles still existed. > > > > EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. > > > > UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. > > > > Etcetc Finally: > > > > EU: ?You will obey?. > > > > UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper beer > unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as ?pints? > whilst acknowledging that they contain > > > > 568.261ml litres each. > > > > EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. > > > > Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? > > > > Simon > > > > > > > > > > > > From: i erbs > > Sent: 24 April 2020 02:55 > > To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com; Patrick & Caroline Quinn < > p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>; Healeys > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > > > > > When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada and > mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so factories > there could use metric tools > > > > Ira Erbs > > Portland,OR > > 59 BN4 > > 67MGB > > 65 AH Sprite > > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > wrote: > > > > I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used > the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The design predated > metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime > in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while > changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more > costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. > > > > > > > > Bill Lawrence > > > > BN1 #554 > > > > From: i erbs > > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM > > To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com ; > Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > > > > > Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not > converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact > situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. > > > > Ira Erbs > > Portland,OR > > 59 BN4 > > 67MGB > > 65 AH Sprite > > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > wrote: > > > > In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover > that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short > block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I > assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM > castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. > > > > > > > > Bill Lawrence > > > > BN1 #554 > > > > From: Healeys on behalf of > simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM > > To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' > > Cc: 'Healeys' > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > > > > > I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix > of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They > may have been peculiar to the army. > > > > Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. > > > > Simon > > > > > > > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Patrick & > Caroline Quinn > > Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23 > > To: 'David Nock' ; 'Michael MacLean' < > rrengineer.mike at att.net> > > Cc: 'Healeys' > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > > > > > G?day > > > > > > > > Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of > the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I > still have them. > > > > > > > > Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the > 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are > many variations of each for specific purposes. > > > > > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > > > > > Patrick Quinn > > > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > > > > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > David Nock > > Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM > > To: Michael MacLean > > Cc: Healeys > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > > > > > All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is > a coarse thread. > > > > However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart > from each other. > > > > > > > > The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 > bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the > cooling system. > > > > David Nock > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > wrote: > > > > ? > > > > So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made > sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car > Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The > two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I > have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to > torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I > only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of > washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found > out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket > set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about > the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at > the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I > managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my > gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if > these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what > size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the > block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get > to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. > > > > Mike MacLean > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/55healey at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Fri Apr 24 11:01:09 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 13:01:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <2A53B747-6E82-4986-8B47-A198155EC28E@comcast.net> Message-ID: With Liberia, Myanmar and of course? the United States of America being the only countries that do not use metric one does have to wonder!! M On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:51 PM i erbs wrote: > I think they would rather make one type moving forward. Cheaper costs fir > them, increased cost fir everyone else. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 9:48 AM 55healey at comcast.net <55healey at comcast.net> > wrote: > >> I figured it was just an excuse for the wrench manufacturers so they >> could continue making 2 sets of wrenches. >> >> > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, i erbs wrote: >> > >> > Yup, >> > The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a >> storm over the cost to convert, so it never officially happened. >> > >> > Ira Erbs >> > Portland,OR >> > 59 BN4 >> > 67MGB >> > 65 AH Sprite >> > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos >> > >> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM >> wrote: >> > ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but had >> ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I recall that all >> oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US domination in that area? And >> planes??? >> > >> > I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into the >> Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups along >> the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk >> bottles still existed. >> > >> > EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. >> > >> > UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. >> > >> > Etcetc Finally: >> > >> > EU: ?You will obey?. >> > >> > UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper >> beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as >> ?pints? whilst acknowledging that they contain >> > >> > 568.261ml litres each. >> > >> > EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. >> > >> > Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? >> > >> > Simon >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: i erbs >> > Sent: 24 April 2020 02:55 >> > To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE >> > Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com; Patrick & Caroline Quinn < >> p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>; Healeys >> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> > >> > >> > >> > When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada and >> mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so factories >> there could use metric tools >> > >> > Ira Erbs >> > Portland,OR >> > 59 BN4 >> > 67MGB >> > 65 AH Sprite >> > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE >> wrote: >> > >> > I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used >> the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The design predated >> metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime >> in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while >> changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more >> costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. >> > >> > >> > >> > Bill Lawrence >> > >> > BN1 #554 >> > >> > From: i erbs >> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM >> > To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE >> > Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com < >> simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>; Patrick & Caroline Quinn < >> p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>; Healeys >> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> > >> > >> > >> > Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not >> converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact >> situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. >> > >> > Ira Erbs >> > Portland,OR >> > 59 BN4 >> > 67MGB >> > 65 AH Sprite >> > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE >> wrote: >> > >> > In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover >> that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short >> block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I >> assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM >> castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. >> > >> > >> > >> > Bill Lawrence >> > >> > BN1 #554 >> > >> > From: Healeys on behalf of >> simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com >> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM >> > To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' >> > Cc: 'Healeys' >> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> > >> > >> > >> > I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix >> of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They >> may have been peculiar to the army. >> > >> > Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. >> > >> > Simon >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Healeys On Behalf Of Patrick & >> Caroline Quinn >> > Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23 >> > To: 'David Nock' ; 'Michael MacLean' < >> rrengineer.mike at att.net> >> > Cc: 'Healeys' >> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> > >> > >> > >> > G?day >> > >> > >> > >> > Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one >> of the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I >> still have them. >> > >> > >> > >> > Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the >> 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are >> many variations of each for specific purposes. >> > >> > >> > >> > Hoo Roo >> > >> > >> > >> > Patrick Quinn >> > >> > Blue Mountains, Australia >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of >> David Nock >> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM >> > To: Michael MacLean >> > Cc: Healeys >> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> > >> > >> > >> > All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth >> is a coarse thread. >> > >> > However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart >> from each other. >> > >> > >> > >> > The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 >> bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the >> cooling system. >> > >> > David Nock >> > >> > >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > >> > >> > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean >> wrote: >> > >> > ? >> > >> > So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made >> sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car >> Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The >> two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I >> have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to >> torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I >> only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of >> washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found >> out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket >> set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about >> the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at >> the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I >> managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my >> gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if >> these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what >> size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the >> block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get >> to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. >> > >> > Mike MacLean >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> > >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Virus-free. www.avast.com >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> > >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> > >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> > >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/55healey at comcast.net >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Fri Apr 24 11:12:32 2020 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Robert Begani) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 13:12:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <2A53B747-6E82-4986-8B47-A198155EC28E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <050b01d61a5b$8b17fec0$a147fc40$@gmail.com> What I heard back in the day, a Michigan congressman saw a dual speed limit sign in English mph and Metric kph. He thought ?why should I and my constituents have to learn a European Language?. Unfortunately, the Michigan car makers encourage him to propose an amendment to the US law which provided for a 10 year transition to the metric system of weights and measures. This amendment put a temporary hold on the progress and has never been removed so there was no progression require conversion, to teach school children to learn and so on. However, there are many roads in the USA which still have dual signs which by law cannot be removed as they are under phase one of the law. Every country in the world using the English system of weights and measures signed the international treaty and began to covert to the metric systems, except the USA. In all those countries children began to learn the system in the 60?s and the use of dual signs and gauges were acceptable until everyone in these countries became knowledgeable in the metric system. Too bad we had to say ?wait a minute ? which has lasted our lifetimes. Note, all automobiles, and many manufactured products are fully metric today except the humans which use them. Bob Begani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From engl at accesscomm.ca Fri Apr 24 11:18:01 2020 From: engl at accesscomm.ca (Bob England) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:18:01 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <030601d61a5c$4f8c5a80$eea50f80$@ca> Ira ? USofA is not immune to the creeping metric menace ? I had a 1995 Jeep Cherokee bought new ? went to change the water pump ?. 9 bolts ? 5 metric and 4 imperial ? worst yet, had to change one of the dash light bulbs ? took off the dash cover ? ?LUCAS? ?. I?m still in therapy ? BobE From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: April 24, 2020 10:05 AM To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant Yup, The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a storm over the cost to convert, so it never officially happened. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM wrote: ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but had ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I recall that all oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US domination in that area? And planes??? I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into the Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups along the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed. EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. Etcetc Finally: EU: ?You will obey?. UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as ?pints? whilst acknowledging that they contain 568.261ml litres each. EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? Simon From: i erbs Sent: 24 April 2020 02:55 To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com; Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada and mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so factories there could use metric tools Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The design predated metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 _____ From: i erbs Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com ; Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 _____ From: Healeys on behalf of simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been peculiar to the army. Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23 To: 'David Nock' ; 'Michael MacLean' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant G?day Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many variations of each for specific purposes. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from each other. The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling system. David Nock Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: ? So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. 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URL: From javrugtman at htcnet.org Fri Apr 24 11:30:12 2020 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 13:30:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: <050b01d61a5b$8b17fec0$a147fc40$@gmail.com> References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <2A53B747-6E82-4986-8B47-A198155EC28E@comcast.net> <050b01d61a5b$8b17fec0$a147fc40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4e6c2e38-ffca-74fa-9785-28db6e1e1eac@htcnet.org> Back during that supposed transitioning period all the equipment I worked on went over to metric, because, of course, they sold world wide, just like cars. John On 4/24/2020 1:12 PM, Robert Begani wrote: > > What I heard back in the day,? a Michigan congressman saw a dual speed > limit sign in English mph and Metric kph.? He thought ?why should I > and my constituents have to learn a European Language?.? > Unfortunately, the Michigan car makers encourage him to propose an > amendment to the US law which provided for a 10 year transition to the > metric system of weights and measures.? This amendment put a temporary > hold on the progress and has never been removed so there was no > progression require conversion, to teach school children to learn and > so on.? However, there are many roads in the USA which still have dual > signs which by law cannot be removed as they are under phase one of > the law. > > Every country in the world using the English system of weights and > measures signed the international treaty and began to covert to the > metric systems, except the USA.? In all those countries children began > to learn the system in the 60?s and the use of dual signs and gauges > were acceptable until everyone in these countries became knowledgeable > in the metric system.? Too bad we had to say ?wait a minute ? which > has lasted our lifetimes. > > Note, all automobiles, and many manufactured products are fully metric > today except the humans which use them. > > Bob Begani > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Fri Apr 24 11:32:52 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 13:32:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: <050b01d61a5b$8b17fec0$a147fc40$@gmail.com> References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <2A53B747-6E82-4986-8B47-A198155EC28E@comcast.net> <050b01d61a5b$8b17fec0$a147fc40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: The odd thing is that in many countries that have converted there are some really strange exceptions. In Canada the construction industry, including I believe HVAC still uses imperial. In the UK road distances are in miles but fuel is dispensed in litres making fuel economy calculations a tad odd! Of course now here in Canada, as in most of the civilized world, fuel economy is expressed in litres per 100 km which to someone of my age is a bit confusing because "more is worse" rather than "more is better" as it was in MPG. M On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 1:12 PM Robert Begani wrote: > What I heard back in the day, a Michigan congressman saw a dual speed > limit sign in English mph and Metric kph. He thought ?why should I and my > constituents have to learn a European Language?. Unfortunately, the > Michigan car makers encourage him to propose an amendment to the US law > which provided for a 10 year transition to the metric system of weights and > measures. This amendment put a temporary hold on the progress and has > never been removed so there was no progression require conversion, to teach > school children to learn and so on. However, there are many roads in the > USA which still have dual signs which by law cannot be removed as they are > under phase one of the law. > > > > Every country in the world using the English system of weights and > measures signed the international treaty and began to covert to the metric > systems, except the USA. In all those countries children began to learn > the system in the 60?s and the use of dual signs and gauges were acceptable > until everyone in these countries became knowledgeable in the metric > system. Too bad we had to say ?wait a minute ? which has lasted our > lifetimes. > > > > Note, all automobiles, and many manufactured products are fully metric > today except the humans which use them. > > > > Bob Begani > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Apr 24 11:58:51 2020 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 19:58:51 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: <030601d61a5c$4f8c5a80$eea50f80$@ca> References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <030601d61a5c$4f8c5a80$eea50f80$@ca> Message-ID: <800885ee-3dc9-ad75-a954-5beb08cb84d2@chello.nl> Quite possible the car was made in Italy by Fiat? It least that is where (som of) the Jeeps in Europe are coming from I believe Kees Oudesluijs Op 24-4-2020 om 19:18 schreef Bob England: > > Ira ? USofA is not immune to the creeping metric menace ? I had a 1995 > Jeep Cherokee bought new ? went to change the water pump ?. 9 bolts ? > 5 metric and 4 imperial? ? worst yet, had to change one of the dash > light bulbs ? took off the dash cover ? ?LUCAS? ?. I?m still in > therapy ? BobE > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of > *i erbs > *Sent:* April 24, 2020 10:05 AM > *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > Yup, > > The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a > storm over the cost to convert, so it never officially?happened. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM > wrote: > > ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but > had ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I > recall that all oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US > domination in that area? And planes??? > > I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into > the Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some > hiccups along the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a > pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed. > > EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. > > UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. > > Etcetc Finally: > > EU: ?You will obey?. > > UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink > proper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those > glasses as ?pints? whilst acknowledging that they contain > > 568.261ml litres each. > > EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. > > Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? > > Simon > > *From:*i erbs > > *Sent:* 24 April 2020 02:55 > *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > ; Patrick & Caroline > Quinn >; Healeys > > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada > and mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so > factories there could use metric tools > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > wrote: > > I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would > have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The > design predated metrification in the US by a few decades. When > Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s probably, they retained > the US standard thread pattern while changing to a metric > standard bolt head. It would probably have been more costly to > retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. > > Bill Lawrence > > BN1 #554 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*i erbs > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM > *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > > >; Patrick & > Caroline Quinn >; Healeys > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on > not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds > with that exact situation. But also standards bolts heads too > in some areas. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > wrote: > > In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised > to discover that while all of the fasteners used metric > wrench sizes many in the short block used the UNC thread > type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I assume > that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the > original GM castings and changed the head size to simplify > tool inventory. > > Bill Lawrence > > BN1 #554 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Healeys > on behalf of > simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM > *To:* 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' > > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional > Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long > wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been peculiar to > the army. > > Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. > > Simon > > *From:*Healeys > *On Behalf Of > *Patrick & Caroline Quinn > *Sent:* 23 April 2020 00:23 > *To:* 'David Nock' >; 'Michael MacLean' > > > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > G?day > > Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned > 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of > BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. > > Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. > AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and > around the house. There are many variations of each for > specific purposes. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On > Behalf Of *David Nock > *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM > *To:* Michael MacLean > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not > Whitworth.? Whitworth is a coarse thread. > > However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one > size apart from each other. > > The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen > bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the > studs that go thru into the cooling system. > > David Nock > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > > > wrote: > > ? > > So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 > short block.? Made sure all the intake valves have the > new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus > the new set of springs I already had for the valves.? > The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white > (finest grit) Roloc brush.? I have the correct head > gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque > the head down to the block.? My surprise, for some > stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts.? I > managed to order the correct amount of washer for the > head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also > found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8")? size.? I > have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. > I seem to remember someone talking about the water > jacket blanking plate earlier this week.? That made me > look at the front of my block.? Three studs and an > empty hole.? No cover.? I managed to find two blanking > covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket > set.? Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone > tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are > Whitworth nuts.? If so, what size?? I have a generator > bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block > or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? 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URL: From timothy.macklem at kcl.ac.uk Fri Apr 24 12:06:07 2020 From: timothy.macklem at kcl.ac.uk (Macklem, Timothy) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 18:06:07 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <2A53B747-6E82-4986-8B47-A198155EC28E@comcast.net> <050b01d61a5b$8b17fec0$a147fc40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <82BA6829-B9F9-46FC-9EB3-C3DC3D3DBB3A@kcl.ac.uk> As I remember the switchover in Canada, the government decided to begin with everyday things, like the temperature, with the intention of moving on to industrial matters in due course. However when America decided not to convert its industry to metric Canada followed suit, given the volume of trade between the two countries. So the country is in metric limbo. In the UK the opposite pattern occurred. The conversion of industry came first with everyday things supposed to follow, which they sort of did and sort of didn?t. So the temperature is in metric but the roads are in imperial. And as Simon says, volumes of milk or alcohol are labelled as metric but sized in imperial. All the kids think only in metric and old people have one more reason to be confused, whenever they pour themselves a drink for example. Tim On 24 Apr 2020, at 18:32, Michael Salter > wrote: The odd thing is that in many countries that have converted there are some really strange exceptions. In Canada the construction industry, including I believe HVAC still uses imperial. In the UK road distances are in miles but fuel is dispensed in litres making fuel economy calculations a tad odd! Of course now here in Canada, as in most of the civilized world, fuel economy is expressed in litres per 100 km which to someone of my age is a bit confusing because "more is worse" rather than "more is better" as it was in MPG. M On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 1:12 PM Robert Begani > wrote: What I heard back in the day, a Michigan congressman saw a dual speed limit sign in English mph and Metric kph. He thought ?why should I and my constituents have to learn a European Language?. Unfortunately, the Michigan car makers encourage him to propose an amendment to the US law which provided for a 10 year transition to the metric system of weights and measures. This amendment put a temporary hold on the progress and has never been removed so there was no progression require conversion, to teach school children to learn and so on. However, there are many roads in the USA which still have dual signs which by law cannot be removed as they are under phase one of the law. Every country in the world using the English system of weights and measures signed the international treaty and began to covert to the metric systems, except the USA. In all those countries children began to learn the system in the 60?s and the use of dual signs and gauges were acceptable until everyone in these countries became knowledgeable in the metric system. Too bad we had to say ?wait a minute ? which has lasted our lifetimes. Note, all automobiles, and many manufactured products are fully metric today except the humans which use them. 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URL: From engl at accesscomm.ca Fri Apr 24 12:39:36 2020 From: engl at accesscomm.ca (Engl) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:39:36 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: <800885ee-3dc9-ad75-a954-5beb08cb84d2@chello.nl> References: <800885ee-3dc9-ad75-a954-5beb08cb84d2@chello.nl> Message-ID: <81C0B01C-08B6-4F5B-8767-C8C8013BA812@accesscomm.ca> Hi Kees. It was a Jeep built in North America, purchased on Canada?s left coast. Therapy is going well. BobE > On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:59 AM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: > > ? > Quite possible the car was made in Italy by Fiat? It least that is where (som of) the Jeeps in Europe are coming from I believe > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > > > Op 24-4-2020 om 19:18 schreef Bob England: >> Ira ? USofA is not immune to the creeping metric menace ? I had a 1995 Jeep Cherokee bought new ? went to change the water pump ?. 9 bolts ? 5 metric and 4 imperial ? worst yet, had to change one of the dash light bulbs ? took off the dash cover ? ?LUCAS? ?. I?m still in therapy ? BobE >> >> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs >> Sent: April 24, 2020 10:05 AM >> To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com >> Cc: Healeys >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> >> Yup, >> The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a storm over the cost to convert, so it never officially happened. >> >> Ira Erbs >> Portland,OR >> 59 BN4 >> 67MGB >> 65 AH Sprite >> phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos >> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM wrote: >> ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but had ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I recall that all oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US domination in that area? And planes??? >> I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into the Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups along the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed. >> EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. >> UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. >> Etcetc Finally: >> EU: ?You will obey?. >> UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as ?pints? whilst acknowledging that they contain >> 568.261ml litres each. >> EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. >> Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? >> Simon >> >> >> From: i erbs >> Sent: 24 April 2020 02:55 >> To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE >> Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com; Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> >> When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada and mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so factories there could use metric tools >> >> Ira Erbs >> Portland,OR >> 59 BN4 >> 67MGB >> 65 AH Sprite >> phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos >> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: >> I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The design predated metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. >> >> Bill Lawrence >> BN1 #554 >> From: i erbs >> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM >> To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE >> Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com ; Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> >> Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. >> >> Ira Erbs >> Portland,OR >> 59 BN4 >> 67MGB >> 65 AH Sprite >> phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos >> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: >> In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. >> >> Bill Lawrence >> BN1 #554 >> From: Healeys on behalf of simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com >> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM >> To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' >> Cc: 'Healeys' >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> >> I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been peculiar to the army. >> >> Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> From: Healeys On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn >> Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23 >> To: 'David Nock' ; 'Michael MacLean' >> Cc: 'Healeys' >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> >> >> >> G?day >> >> >> >> Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. >> >> >> >> Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many variations of each for specific purposes. >> >> >> >> Hoo Roo >> >> >> >> Patrick Quinn >> >> Blue Mountains, Australia >> >> >> >> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock >> Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM >> To: Michael MacLean >> Cc: Healeys >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> >> >> >> All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. >> >> However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from each other. >> >> >> >> The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling system. >> >> David Nock >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: >> >> ? >> >> So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. >> >> Mike MacLean >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl at accesscomm.ca > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Fri Apr 24 12:51:31 2020 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:51:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Metrification has been a success in the street drug trade: Every school kid knows that there are 28 grams in an ounce. Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:12 PM i erbs wrote: > Yup, > The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a > storm over the cost to convert, so it never officially happened. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM wrote: > >> ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but had >> ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I recall that all >> oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US domination in that area? And >> planes??? >> >> I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into the >> Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups along >> the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk >> bottles still existed. >> >> EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. >> >> UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. >> >> Etcetc Finally: >> >> EU: ?You will obey?. >> >> UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper beer >> unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as ?pints? >> whilst acknowledging that they contain >> >> 568.261ml litres each. >> >> EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. >> >> Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* i erbs >> *Sent:* 24 April 2020 02:55 >> *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE >> *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com; Patrick & Caroline Quinn < >> p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>; Healeys >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> >> >> >> When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada and >> mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so factories >> there could use metric tools >> >> Ira Erbs >> Portland,OR >> 59 BN4 >> 67MGB >> 65 AH Sprite >> phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: >> >> I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used the >> UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The design predated >> metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime >> in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while >> changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more >> costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. >> >> >> >> Bill Lawrence >> >> BN1 #554 >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* i erbs >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM >> *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE >> *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com < >> simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>; Patrick & Caroline Quinn < >> p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>; Healeys >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> >> >> >> Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not >> converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact >> situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. >> >> Ira Erbs >> Portland,OR >> 59 BN4 >> 67MGB >> 65 AH Sprite >> phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE >> wrote: >> >> In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover >> that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short >> block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I >> assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM >> castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. >> >> >> >> Bill Lawrence >> >> BN1 #554 >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Healeys on behalf of >> simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM >> *To:* 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' >> *Cc:* 'Healeys' >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> >> >> >> I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of >> Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may >> have been peculiar to the army. >> >> Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Patrick >> & Caroline Quinn >> *Sent:* 23 April 2020 00:23 >> *To:* 'David Nock' ; 'Michael MacLean' < >> rrengineer.mike at att.net> >> *Cc:* 'Healeys' >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> >> >> >> G?day >> >> >> >> Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of >> the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I >> still have them. >> >> >> >> Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 >> BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many >> variations of each for specific purposes. >> >> >> >> Hoo Roo >> >> >> >> Patrick Quinn >> >> Blue Mountains, Australia >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net >> ] *On Behalf Of *David Nock >> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM >> *To:* Michael MacLean >> *Cc:* Healeys >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant >> >> >> >> All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is >> a coarse thread. >> >> However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart >> from each other. >> >> >> >> The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 >> bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the >> cooling system. >> >> David Nock >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean >> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made >> sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car >> Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The >> two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I >> have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to >> torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I >> only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of >> washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found >> out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket >> set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about >> the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at >> the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I >> managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my >> gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if >> these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what >> size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the >> block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get >> to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. >> >> Mike MacLean >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com >> >> >> >> [image: Image removed by sender.] >> >> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Michael Oritt Sent: April 24, 2020 1:52 PM To: i erbs Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant Metrification has been a success in the street drug trade: Every school kid knows that there are 28 grams in an ounce. Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:12 PM i erbs > wrote: Yup, The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a storm over the cost to convert, so it never officially happened. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM > wrote: ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but had ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I recall that all oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US domination in that area? And planes??? I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into the Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups along the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed. EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. Etcetc Finally: EU: ?You will obey?. UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as ?pints? whilst acknowledging that they contain 568.261ml litres each. EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? Simon From: i erbs > Sent: 24 April 2020 02:55 To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com; Patrick & Caroline Quinn >; Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada and mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so factories there could use metric tools Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > wrote: I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The design predated metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 From: i erbs > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com >; Patrick & Caroline Quinn >; Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > wrote: In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 From: Healeys > on behalf of simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' > Cc: 'Healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been peculiar to the army. Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. Simon From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23 To: 'David Nock' >; 'Michael MacLean' > Cc: 'Healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant G?day Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many variations of each for specific purposes. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from each other. The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling system. David Nock Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > wrote: ? So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Doubt that could be accomplished today in any modern country. Bob From: Healeys On Behalf Of Jean Caron Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 3:01 PM To: Michael Oritt ; i erbs Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant There was a time after Canada had gone metric that a fringe political party, called the Rhinoceros Party, during the provincial election in Quebec, one of their promise if elected, was to switch driving from the right hand side to the left hand side of the road like in the UK, Australia and Japan but like every good politician, they were going to do it in stages starting with truck, semi-trailers for the first month and cars the following month. Surprisingly they never got elected to fulfill their promise.!!!!!!!!! Jean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Michael Oritt Sent: April 24, 2020 1:52 PM To: i erbs Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant Metrification has been a success in the street drug trade: Every school kid knows that there are 28 grams in an ounce. Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:12 PM i erbs > wrote: Yup, The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a storm over the cost to convert, so it never officially happened. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM > wrote: ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but had ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I recall that all oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US domination in that area? And planes??? I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into the Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups along the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed. EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. Etcetc Finally: EU: ?You will obey?. UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as ?pints? whilst acknowledging that they contain 568.261ml litres each. EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? Simon From: i erbs > Sent: 24 April 2020 02:55 To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com ; Patrick & Caroline Quinn >; Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada and mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so factories there could use metric tools Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > wrote: I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The design predated metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 From: i erbs > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com >; Patrick & Caroline Quinn >; Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > wrote: In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 From: Healeys > on behalf of simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' > Cc: 'Healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been peculiar to the army. Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. Simon From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23 To: 'David Nock' >; 'Michael MacLean' > Cc: 'Healeys' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant G?day Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many variations of each for specific purposes. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from each other. The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling system. David Nock Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > wrote: ? So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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BobE From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jean Caron Sent: April 24, 2020 1:01 PM To: Michael Oritt; i erbs Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant There was a time after Canada had gone metric that a fringe political party, called the Rhinoceros Party, during the provincial election in Quebec, one of their promise if elected, was to switch driving from the right hand side to the left hand side of the road like in the UK, Australia and Japan but like every good politician, they were going to do it in stages starting with truck, semi-trailers for the first month and cars the following month. Surprisingly they never got elected to fulfill their promise.!!!!!!!!! Jean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Michael Oritt Sent: April 24, 2020 1:52 PM To: i erbs Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant Metrification has been a success in the street drug trade: Every school kid knows that there are 28 grams in an ounce. Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:12 PM i erbs wrote: Yup, The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a storm over the cost to convert, so it never officially happened. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM wrote: ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought but had ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. Don?t I recall that all oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US domination in that area? And planes??? I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK into the Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups along the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed. EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. Etcetc Finally: EU: ?You will obey?. UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink proper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as ?pints? whilst acknowledging that they contain 568.261ml litres each. EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? Simon From: i erbs Sent: 24 April 2020 02:55 To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com; Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada and mexico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so factories there could use metric tools Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt head. The design predated metrification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more costly to retool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 From: i erbs Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com ; Patrick & Caroline Quinn ; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact situation. But also standards bolts heads too in some areas. Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover that while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short block used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I assume that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM castings and changed the head size to simplify tool inventory. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 From: Healeys on behalf of simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been peculiar to the army. Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23 To: 'David Nock' ; 'Michael MacLean' Cc: 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant G?day Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many variations of each for specific purposes. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart from each other. The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling system. David Nock Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: ? So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made sure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Specialists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two mating surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have the correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered 8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the head. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Three studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, Whitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The claim was the American people were too stupid to understand the metric system? problems with Fahrenheit vs Celsius too. Consequently they decided to post speed limits, distances to cities, weather reports, etc. in both terminologies. The theory was, over time, the people would start to understand either system. Back then, I didn?t believe the American people were too stupid. I just thought the politicians were a bit thick. ? Of course, then we had an election in 2016. From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 1:13 PM To: 'i erbs'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant What I heard back in the day, a Michigan congressman saw a dual speed limit sign in English mph and Metric kph. He thought ?why should I and my constituents have to learn a European Language?. Unfortunately, the Michigan car makers encourage him to propose an amendment to the US law which provided for a 10 year transition to the metric system of weights and measures. This amendment put a temporary hold on the progress and has never been removed so there was no progression require conversion, to teach school children to learn and so on. However, there are many roads in the USA which still have dual signs which by law cannot be removed as they are under phase one of the law. Every country in the world using the English system of weights and measures signed the international treaty and began to covert to the metric systems, except the USA. In all those countries children began to learn the system in the 60?s and the use of dual signs and gauges were acceptable until everyone in these countries became knowledgeable in the metric system. Too bad we had to say ?wait a minute ? which has lasted our lifetimes. 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John On 4/24/2020 4:29 PM, Robert Begani wrote: > > Remember the largest countries by population are driving on the left > hand side of the road and are about to become the largest consumers of > automobiles thanks to the British Influence > > Also, Sweden successfully switched to drive on the right hand side of > the road in the 50?s by careful planning and shutting down all roads > for several days, to change the traffic lights and signs and paint the > pavement.? Doubt that could be accomplished today in any modern country. > > Bob > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Jean Caron > *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2020 3:01 PM > *To:* Michael Oritt ; i erbs > > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > There was a time after Canada had gone metric that a fringe political > party, called the Rhinoceros Party, during the provincial election in > Quebec, one of their promise if elected, was to switch driving from > the right ?hand side to the left hand side of the road like in the UK, > Australia and Japan but like every good politician, they were going to > do it in stages starting with truck, semi-trailers for the first month > and cars the following month. Surprisingly they never got elected to > fulfill their promise.!!!!!!!!! > > Jean > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *Michael Oritt > *Sent: *April 24, 2020 1:52 PM > *To: *i erbs > *Cc: *Healeys > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > Metrification has been a success in the street drug trade:? Every > school kid knows that there are 28 grams in an ounce. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:12 PM i erbs > wrote: > > Yup, > > The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers > raised a storm over the cost to convert, so it never > officially?happened. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM > wrote: > > ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought > but had ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. > Don?t I recall that all oil-producing kit is Imperial because > of US domination in that area? And planes??? > > I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK > into the Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There > were some hiccups along the way. A pint of beer remains a > pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed. > > EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. > > UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. > > Etcetc Finally: > > EU: ?You will obey?. > > UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink > proper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to > those glasses as ?pints? whilst acknowledging that they contain > > 568.261ml litres each. > > EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. > > Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? > > Simon > > *From:* i erbs > > *Sent:* 24 April 2020 02:55 > *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > ; Patrick & Caroline > Quinn >; > Healeys > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to > canada and mexico they made standard threaded bolts with > metric heads so factories there could use metric tools > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > wrote: > > I think you have it backwards. The original GM design > would have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt > head. The design predated metrification in the US by a few > decades. When Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s > probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern > while changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would > probably have been more costly to retool the engine > castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. > > Bill Lawrence > > BN1 #554 > > *From:*i erbs > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM > *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > > >; Patrick & > Caroline Quinn >; Healeys > > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save > money on not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had > a 87 Olds with that exact situation. But also standards > bolts heads too in some areas. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > wrote: > > In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was > surprised to discover that while all of the fasteners > used metric wrench sizes many in the short block used > the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 > mm head. I assume that Rover simply continued the UNC > pattern of the original GM castings and changed the > head size to simplify tool inventory. > > Bill Lawrence > > BN1 #554 > > *From:*Healeys > on behalf of > simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM > *To:* 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' > > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional > Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner > long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been > peculiar to the army. > > Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. > > Simon > > *From:* Healeys > *On Behalf Of > *Patrick & Caroline Quinn > *Sent:* 23 April 2020 00:23 > *To:* 'David Nock' >; 'Michael MacLean' > > > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > G?day > > Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I > turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was > a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. > > Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey > Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, > Mercedes and around the house. There are many > variations of each for specific purposes. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > *On Behalf Of *David Nock > *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM > *To:* Michael MacLean > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not > Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse thread. > > However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are > one size apart from each other. > > The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen > bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of > the studs that go thru into the cooling system. > > David Nock > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > > wrote: > > ? > > So, I am getting ready to install the head on my > 100 short block.? Made sure all the intake valves > have the new seals I bought from British Car > Specialists plus the new set of springs I already > had for the valves.? The two mating surfaces were > cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush.? I > have the correct head gasket (copper faced). > Tonight was the night to torque the head down to > the block.? My surprise, for some stupid reason I > only ordered 8 new head nuts.? I managed to order > the correct amount of washer for the head.? No > idea what my pea brain was thinking.? Also found > out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8")? size.? I > have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted > there.? I seem to remember someone talking about > the water jacket blanking plate earlier this week. > That made me look at the front of my block.? Three > studs and an empty hole. No cover.? I managed to > find two blanking covers in my stash of parts and > a gasket in my gasket set.? Woohoo, but no nuts or > lock washers.? Can someone tell me if these little > nuts that I do not have are Whitworth nuts. If so, > what size?? I have a generator bracket, but there > are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to > mount it with.? Once again, Whitworth?? The closer > I get to putting this together the more stuff I > find out I don't have. > > Mike MacLean > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at gmail.com > > > > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: > http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: > http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/javrugtman at htcnet.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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P Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2020, at 5:06 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > > ? > Nice job...do you make jack handles? > > M > > >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 4:06 PM Perry Small via Healeys wrote: >> Well not sure what everybody else is doing in the midst of the virus mess. >> Wife asked ?What are you going to do this morning?? That means she is planning on a day of reading after a few house keeping tasks. >> I responded that a request for a couple 100 spare tire hold down bars was on my to do list. 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Apr 24 21:53:18 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 20:53:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <49dc1620-6b3d-cf85-875b-f2f16cc9bf4a@comcast.net> ... and 2.2 pounds in a 'key.'? Honestly, anyone with any schooling/training in engineering or science is comfortable with both systems*; well, maybe the 'born-metric' types don't know what a furlong is (but there's always Google).? Read somewhere--Carroll Smith's 'Fasteners' book; aka 'Screw to Win' probably--that the Whitworth thread design is inherently superior to metric, but I guess that ship has sailed. * Maybe shouldn't be too comfortable if you're programming rocket launch trajectories. Bob On 4/24/2020 11:51 AM, Michael Oritt wrote: > Metrification has been a success in the street drug trade:? Every > school kid knows that there are 28 grams in an ounce. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:12 PM i erbs > wrote: > > Yup, > The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers > raised a storm over the cost to convert, so it never > officially?happened. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM > wrote: > > ?Flirted?? To tell the truth, I?d never given it much thought > but had ?assumed? that the US had resisted metrification. > Don?t I recall that all oil-producing kit is Imperial because > of US domination in that area? And planes??? > > I do know that, when Ted ?The Grocer? Heath dragged the UK > into the Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There > were some hiccups along the way. A pint of beer remains a > pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed. > > EU: ?You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey?. > > UK: ?Won?t. Can?t. Shan?t?. > > Etcetc Finally: > > EU: ?You will obey?. > > UK: ?OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink > proper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to > those glasses as ?pints? whilst acknowledging that they contain > > 568.261ml litres each. > > EU: ?Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese?. > > Aren?t we all allowed the occasional rant? > > Simon > > *From:*i erbs > > *Sent:* 24 April 2020 02:55 > *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > ; Patrick & Caroline > Quinn >; > Healeys > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to > canada and mexico they made standard threaded bolts with > metric heads so factories there could use metric tools > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > wrote: > > I think you have it backwards. The original GM design > would have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16? bolt > head. The design predated metrification in the US by a few > decades. When Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s > probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern > while changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would > probably have been more costly to retool the engine > castings to switch to a metric thread pattern. > > Bill Lawrence > > BN1 #554 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*i erbs > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM > *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > *Cc:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > > >; Patrick & > Caroline Quinn >; Healeys > > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save > money on not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had > a 87 Olds with that exact situation. But also standards > bolts heads too in some areas. > > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > 59 BN4 > 67MGB > 65 AH Sprite > phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > > wrote: > > In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was > surprised to discover that while all of the fasteners > used metric wrench sizes many in the short block used > the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 > mm head. I assume that Rover simply continued the UNC > pattern of the original GM castings and changed the > head size to simplify tool inventory. > > Bill Lawrence > > BN1 #554 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Healeys > on behalf of > simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM > *To:* 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' > > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > I have a vague memory of what we called ?Transitional > Rovers? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ? tonner > long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been > peculiar to the army. > > Glad I wasn?t in REME?..they had to maintain them. > > Simon > > *From:*Healeys > *On Behalf Of > *Patrick & Caroline Quinn > *Sent:* 23 April 2020 00:23 > *To:* 'David Nock' >; 'Michael MacLean' > > > *Cc:* 'Healeys' > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > G?day > > Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I > turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was > a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them. > > Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey > Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux, > Mercedes and around the house. There are many > variations of each for specific purposes. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > *On Behalf Of *David Nock > *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM > *To:* Michael MacLean > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not > Whitworth.? Whitworth is a coarse thread. > > However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are > one size apart from each other. > > The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen > bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of > the studs that go thru into the cooling system. > > David Nock > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean > > wrote: > > ? > > So, I am getting ready to install the head on my > 100 short block.? Made sure all the intake valves > have the new seals I bought from British Car > Specialists plus the new set of springs I already > had for the valves.? The two mating surfaces were > cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush.? I > have the correct head gasket (copper faced). > Tonight was the night to torque the head down to > the block.? My surprise, for some stupid reason I > only ordered 8 new head nuts.? I managed to order > the correct amount of washer for the head.? No > idea what my pea brain was thinking.? Also found > out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size.? I > have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted > there.? I seem to remember someone talking about > the water jacket blanking plate earlier this > week.? That made me look at the front of my > block.? Three studs and an empty hole.? No cover.? > I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash > of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, > but no nuts or lock washers.? Can someone tell me > if these little nuts that I do not have are > Whitworth nuts.? If so, what size?? I have a > generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs > for the block or nuts to mount it with.? Once > again, Whitworth?? The closer I get to putting > this together the more stuff I find out I don't have. > > Mike MacLean > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Apr 24 22:55:16 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 21:55:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: References: <740486833.739391.1587532668624@mail.yahoo.com> <004801d618fc$e7d1cd40$b77567c0$@tpg.com.au> <000501d61904$f86aa2f0$e93fe8d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <001901d61a18$add086f0$097194d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> <2A53B747-6E82-4986-8B47-A198155EC28E@comcast.net> <050b01d61a5b$8b17fec0$a147fc40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: It would be too confusing to standardize... BTW, even rocket scientists could not get this right https://www.simscale.com/blog/2017/12/nasa-mars-climate-orbitemetric/ Favorite story of mine to tell my computer IT students Ira Erbs Portland,OR 59 BN4 67MGB 65 AH Sprite phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 10:33 AM Michael Salter wrote: > The odd thing is that in many countries that have converted there are some > really strange exceptions. > In Canada the construction industry, including I believe HVAC still uses > imperial. > In the UK road distances are in miles but fuel is dispensed in litres > making fuel economy calculations a tad odd! > Of course now here in Canada, as in most of the civilized world, fuel > economy is expressed in litres per 100 km which to someone of my age is a > bit confusing because "more is worse" rather than "more is better" as it > was in MPG. > > M > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 1:12 PM Robert Begani wrote: > >> What I heard back in the day, a Michigan congressman saw a dual speed >> limit sign in English mph and Metric kph. He thought ?why should I and my >> constituents have to learn a European Language?. Unfortunately, the >> Michigan car makers encourage him to propose an amendment to the US law >> which provided for a 10 year transition to the metric system of weights and >> measures. This amendment put a temporary hold on the progress and has >> never been removed so there was no progression require conversion, to teach >> school children to learn and so on. However, there are many roads in the >> USA which still have dual signs which by law cannot be removed as they are >> under phase one of the law. >> >> >> >> Every country in the world using the English system of weights and >> measures signed the international treaty and began to covert to the metric >> systems, except the USA. In all those countries children began to learn >> the system in the 60?s and the use of dual signs and gauges were acceptable >> until everyone in these countries became knowledgeable in the metric >> system. Too bad we had to say ?wait a minute ? which has lasted our >> lifetimes. >> >> >> >> Note, all automobiles, and many manufactured products are fully metric >> today except the humans which use them. >> >> >> >> Bob Begani >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Sat Apr 25 06:29:02 2020 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Robert Begani) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 08:29:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant Message-ID: <09a901d61afd$1ac78620$50569260$@gmail.com> There are industries in countries which have not converted because American Industries were the primary suppliers to the world, such as Airconditioning. Still today parts for new AC systems are made in inches such as copper tubing and the fittings and other items because they have to fit the compressors and evaporators which are also still in inches or Imperial measurements. No maker of AC systems wants to make a system that cannot be repaired because the correct parts are not available. There are a few exceptions such as Mini Split AC units. These were developed for the small homes in Japan and are all metric. The have become popular worldwide and those units are not made in the USA nor are the parts. The Chinese are the prime supplier today with Japanese brands. Bob Begani From: Michael Salter > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 1:33 PM To: Robert Begani > Cc: i erbs >; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant The odd thing is that in many countries that have converted there are some really strange exceptions. In Canada the construction industry, including I believe HVAC still uses imperial. In the UK road distances are in miles but fuel is dispensed in litres making fuel economy calculations a tad odd! Of course now here in Canada, as in most of the civilized world, fuel economy is expressed in litres per 100 km which to someone of my age is a bit confusing because "more is worse" rather than "more is better" as it was in MPG. _._,_._,_ _____ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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URL: From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Apr 25 07:57:53 2020 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 21:57:53 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Today's Rant In-Reply-To: <09a901d61afd$1ac78620$50569260$@gmail.com> References: <09a901d61afd$1ac78620$50569260$@gmail.com> Message-ID: In Hong Kong, all conduit, bolts nuts, screws, machine screws.... are all still US sized typically UNC threading. Screws are sold #4 #6 #8 etc., All plumbing is still done using BSP threading. Crazy. Alot of european metric stuff is out there too, but most contracting here still runs on imperial measurements. You can tell a contractor here what you want done in gallons and inches, and he will know exactly what you are talking about even if his English isn't all that good. Drill bits are metric, however! Best, Alan On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 8:29 PM Robert Begani wrote: > > > There are industries in countries which have not converted because > American Industries were the primary suppliers to the world, such as > Airconditioning. Still today parts for new AC systems are made in inches > such as copper tubing and the fittings and other items because they have to > fit the compressors and evaporators which are also still in inches or > Imperial measurements. No maker of AC systems wants to make a system that > cannot be repaired because the correct parts are not available. > > > > There are a few exceptions such as Mini Split AC units. These were > developed for the small homes in Japan and are all metric. The have become > popular worldwide and those units are not made in the USA nor are the > parts. The Chinese are the prime supplier today with Japanese brands. > > > > Bob Begani > > > > *From:* Michael Salter > *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2020 1:33 PM > *To:* Robert Begani > *Cc:* i erbs ; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant > > > > The odd thing is that in many countries that have converted there are some > really strange exceptions. > > In Canada the construction industry, including I believe HVAC still uses > imperial. > > In the UK road distances are in miles but fuel is dispensed in litres > making fuel economy calculations a tad odd! > > Of course now here in Canada, as in most of the civilized world, fuel > economy is expressed in litres per 100 km which to someone of my age is a > bit confusing because "more is worse" rather than "more is better" as it > was in MPG. > > > > _._,_._,_ > ------------------------------ > > Groups.io Links: > > You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#21816) > | Reply To Group > > | Reply To Sender > > | Mute This Topic | New Topic > > > Your Subscription | Contact > Group Owner | Unsubscribe > [ > rfbegani at gmail.com] > > _._,_._,_ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sat Apr 25 08:32:18 2020 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:32:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] hot coil In-Reply-To: <16A63974DE7743FBB5A6CC836E6B3B67@p6520f> References: <16A63974DE7743FBB5A6CC836E6B3B67@p6520f> Message-ID: <4d6cdc6a-4c77-0384-e0a2-9a6b9db40ac4@earthlink.net> I did that once with our MGB. Left the ignition on when we went to dinner. The coil was in pieces and the wiring harness was melted in several places when we returned to the car. Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 4/25/20 9:43 AM, Carl Rubino wrote: > How long can you have the ignition on? without starting before the coil > burns itself up. > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From ah100register at gmail.com Sat Apr 25 09:37:44 2020 From: ah100register at gmail.com (John Harper) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 16:37:44 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] hot coil In-Reply-To: <16A63974DE7743FBB5A6CC836E6B3B67@p6520f> References: <16A63974DE7743FBB5A6CC836E6B3B67@p6520f> Message-ID: Carl It depends on where the engine comes to rest. If contact breakers are open then is nothing to heat the coil. Version made at about the end of A-H production will heat up but should not burn up. One problem one might have is that a coil may be OK on test but after a few miles will fail. This is possibly because the insulating oil has leak out. This can happen very slowly and may not be noticed. Best regards On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 14:43, Carl Rubino wrote: > How long can you have the ignition on without starting before the coil > burns itself up. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah100register at gmail.com > > -- Best wishes John Harper AHC UK 100 Register Secretary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Apr 25 10:01:10 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 09:01:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] hot coil In-Reply-To: References: <16A63974DE7743FBB5A6CC836E6B3B67@p6520f> Message-ID: <553ea813-73ef-75f6-db48-b082321c075e@comcast.net> Slightly OT: What is the 'insulating oil?'? In large, power grid transformers, the insulating oil at one time was PCBs, a serious carcinogen.? A big deal was made about this decades ago, and I assume--yeah, I know what 'ass-U-me' means--that those were replaced, at least in newer versions (knowing PG&E, maybe not). I wonder if old, oil-filled coils, which are essentially transformers, still might have some PCBs in them, in which case they need to be treated with the necessary concern.? OTOH, although I've never deconstructed a Lucas coil, some coils I've seen the internals of used heavy, oily paper as the dielectric. If you have a Pertronix (I) instead of points, and the distributor comes to rest with the power transistor in the forward-biased state I'd guess the Pertronix would fry first, though I've left my key in the run position longer than I should have a couple times and, although the coil got warm, the Pertronix survived. Bob On 4/25/2020 8:37 AM, John Harper wrote: > Carl > > It depends on where the engine comes to rest. If contact breakers are > open then is nothing to heat the?coil. Version made at about the end > of A-H production?will heat up but should?not burn up. > > One problem one might have is that a coil may be OK on test but after > a few miles will fail. This is possibly because the insulating?oil has > leak out. This can happen very slowly and may not be noticed. > > Best regards > > On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 14:43, Carl Rubino > wrote: > > How long can you have the ignition on? without starting before the > coil burns itself up. > -- > > Best wishes > > John Harper > > AHC UK 100 Register Secretary > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 25 14:47:29 2020 From: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com (fsufan1952 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 16:47:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Lights References: Message-ID: So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Sun Apr 26 06:59:32 2020 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Robert Begani) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 08:59:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <525063254.196462.1587851253809@mail.yahoo.com> References: <525063254.196462.1587851253809.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <525063254.196462.1587851253809@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <017501d61bca$880019a0$98004ce0$@gmail.com> I have always used ordinary conventional engine oil from a well known refiner plus ZDDP additive. In the past 10 years have mainly used Rotella because it still had ZDDP additive. However, Shell has reduced the amount of ZDDP additive so I increased my amount of additive. 2 years ago my engine was getting tired at 67,000 miles and I had the opportunity to have the engine rebuilt. After we took it apart it was sent to the local machine shop. Lamont indicated that the engine was in excellent condition with all parts within specifications including crank, cam, valves, etc. He said someone took very good care to keep the engine running with good oil, and changing it regularly. However, the cylinders were in need of .20 over which is not unusual for the age of the block and the crank was cleaned and polished It was reassembled with the same major parts and runs very nicely. I have not believed in buying high priced specialty oils for our engines or gear boxes when good old DINO or Conventional oil is good for them, of course, with an ZDDP additive. I have used the same ZDDP additive for years because the distributor I knew always had it in stock. When he went out of business, I bought his stock. The directions are simple add 5 oz. to a 4 cylinder engine so I used 7 oz. for our big 6 cylinder engine and at every oil change. I am using the last bottle of the additive now and will have to switch to another brand additive in the future. On the other hand, in my original transmission, the conventional oil was recently changed to Red Line MT-90. Will see if there is a difference in 10 or 20 years. Regards, Bob Begani From: Healeys On Behalf Of wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 5:48 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives Hello, Tagging on to Michael's comment on ZDDP in oils, what additives do folks tend to use in their oils. Products like Red Line's "Engine oil beak-in additive" or something from NAPA, etc.? Having seen worn cams and pitted tappets, there is a desire to keep that sort of wear from happening as best as one can. Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Apr 26 07:39:45 2020 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 15:39:45 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <017501d61bca$880019a0$98004ce0$@gmail.com> References: <525063254.196462.1587851253809.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <525063254.196462.1587851253809@mail.yahoo.com> <017501d61bca$880019a0$98004ce0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: The main thing is to change oil regularly, at least every year, and use a good quality oil 20W50 oil suitable for classic cars. If you prefer a high level of ZDDP get a 10/20W50 for motorcyle engines as they can legally have a higher content of ZDDP. No additives needed. Kees Oudesluijs Op 26-4-2020 om 14:59 schreef Robert Begani: > > I have always used ordinary conventional engine oil from a well known > refiner plus ZDDP additive. In the past 10 years have mainly used > Rotella because it still had ZDDP additive.? However, Shell has > reduced the amount of ZDDP additive so I increased my amount of > additive.? 2 years ago my engine was getting tired at 67,000 miles and > I had the opportunity to have? the engine rebuilt. After we took it > apart it was sent to the local machine shop.? Lamont indicated that > the engine was in excellent condition with all parts within > specifications including crank, cam, valves, etc. He said someone took > very good care to keep the engine running with good oil, and changing > it regularly. However, the cylinders were in need of .20 over which is > not unusual for the age of the block and the crank was cleaned and > polished? It was reassembled with the same major parts and runs very > nicely. > > I have not believed in buying high priced specialty oils for our > engines or gear boxes when good old DINO or Conventional oil is good > for them, of course, with an ZDDP additive. > > I have used the same ZDDP additive for years ?because the distributor > I knew always had it in stock.? When he went out of business, I bought > his stock.? The directions are simple add 5 oz. to a 4 cylinder engine > so I used 7 oz. for our big 6 cylinder engine and at every oil > change.? ?I am using the last bottle of the additive now and will have > to switch to another brand additive in the future. > > On the other hand, in my original transmission, the conventional oil > was recently changed to Red Line MT-90. Will see if there is a > difference in 10 or 20 years. > > Regards, > > Bob Begani > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of > *wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2020 5:48 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Oil Additives > > > Hello, > > Tagging on to Michael's comment on ZDDP in oils, what additives do > folks tend to use in their oils. Products like Red Line's "Engine oil > beak-in additive"? or something from NAPA, etc.? > > Having seen worn cams and pitted tappets, there is a desire to keep > that sort of wear from happening as best as one can. > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sun Apr 26 07:59:58 2020 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:59:58 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <017501d61bca$880019a0$98004ce0$@gmail.com> References: <525063254.196462.1587851253809.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <525063254.196462.1587851253809@mail.yahoo.com> <017501d61bca$880019a0$98004ce0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d61bd2$f9d227f0$ed7677d0$@alexarevel.plus.com> I use 20/50 which I buy from the local farmer?s supply depot. (The strangely named ?Mole Valley Farmers?). It comes in a BIG container; I forget how big as I decant it into smaller more manageable units. Big and heavy anyhow. Said container comes with a picture of a classic car on its label which hints at some kind of compatibility with our engines. To this I add the recommended dosage of the appropriately titled ?ZDDP+?. I find this cheaper and easier. I got tired of going to so-called ?Motor factors? and asking for oil. Some spotty ignoramus would lovingly produce a can with an old banger on the label and say ?This is highly recommended by Lewis Hamilton, son of Alexander, and costs a zillion pounds?, or words to that effect. Anyhow, touch wood, the old thing seems to manage on it OK. I also use a spin-on filter the size of a small bucket and change the oil too often. Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: 26 April 2020 14:00 To: wwycoffbn7 at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives I have always used ordinary conventional engine oil from a well known refiner plus ZDDP additive. In the past 10 years have mainly used Rotella because it still had ZDDP additive. However, Shell has reduced the amount of ZDDP additive so I increased my amount of additive. 2 years ago my engine was getting tired at 67,000 miles and I had the opportunity to have the engine rebuilt. After we took it apart it was sent to the local machine shop. Lamont indicated that the engine was in excellent condition with all parts within specifications including crank, cam, valves, etc. He said someone took very good care to keep the engine running with good oil, and changing it regularly. However, the cylinders were in need of .20 over which is not unusual for the age of the block and the crank was cleaned and polished It was reassembled with the same major parts and runs very nicely. I have not believed in buying high priced specialty oils for our engines or gear boxes when good old DINO or Conventional oil is good for them, of course, with an ZDDP additive. I have used the same ZDDP additive for years because the distributor I knew always had it in stock. When he went out of business, I bought his stock. The directions are simple add 5 oz. to a 4 cylinder engine so I used 7 oz. for our big 6 cylinder engine and at every oil change. 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URL: From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Sun Apr 26 08:39:41 2020 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Bruce Steele) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 07:39:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Lights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18dc01d61bd8$8764bba0$962e32e0$@roadrunner.com> Interesting way to flood the dash. When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells. Two projects for me: 1. I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps. Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel. Hint: It is Healey related. 2. I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PM To: healey list Subject: [Healeys] Lights So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . 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Products like Red Line's "Engine oil beak-in additive" or something from NAPA, etc.? Having seen worn cams and pitted tappets, there is a desire to keep that sort of wear from happening as best as one can. Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roggrace at telus.net Sun Apr 26 10:15:23 2020 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 10:15:23 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <191601d61bd8$cdeb8ae0$69c2a0a0$@roadrunner.com> References: <39782849.84758635.1587917715794.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Interested to see that you feel it necessary to add additional zinc. VR1 already has 1300 ppm ? Is there a consensus on what amount is actually needed? Think that you can have too much too ?Am a VR1 user but don't add anything.rg ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Steele To: wwycoffbn7 at aol.com, 'healeylist' Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 08:41:40 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives I add a bottle of Red Line break-in additive with my annual oil change of Valvoline VR-1 20W50 racing oil. Bruce SteeleBrea, CA1960 BN7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:48 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives Hello, Tagging on to Michael's comment on ZDDP in oils, what additives do folks tend to use in their oils. Products like Red Line's "Engine oil beak-in additive" or something from NAPA, etc.? Having seen worn cams and pitted tappets, there is a desire to keep that sort of wear from happening as best as one can. Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 26 10:31:20 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 09:31:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> References: <39782849.84758635.1587917715794.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: My understanding is that, yes, you CAN have too much ZDDP.? At higher levels, zinc and/or the phosphorous in ZDDP can microscopically etch metal surfaces.? I believe ZDDP was initially used for its detergent properties, before its protective properties were noticed (but can't prove it).? A pretty graph here, and you can always search on 'can there be too much ZDDP:' https://aaoil.co.uk/123579-2/ On 4/26/2020 9:15 AM, Roger Grace wrote: > Interested to see that you feel it necessary to add additional zinc. > VR1 already has 1300 ppm ? > Is there a consensus on what amount is actually needed? Think that you > can have too much too ? > Am a VR1 user but don't add anything. > rg > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bruce Steele > To: wwycoffbn7 at aol.com, 'healeylist' > Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 08:41:40 -0600 (MDT) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives > > I add a bottle of Red Line break-in additive with my annual oil change > of Valvoline VR-1 20W50 racing oil. > > Bruce Steele > > Brea, CA > > 1960 BN7 > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of > *wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:48 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Oil Additives > > > Hello, > > Tagging on to Michael's comment on ZDDP in oils, what additives do > folks tend to use in their oils.? Products like Red Line's "Engine oil > beak-in additive"? or something from NAPA, etc.? > > Having seen worn cams and pitted tappets, there is a desire to keep > that sort of wear from happening as best as one can. > > Bill > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Sun Apr 26 10:37:09 2020 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:37:09 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> References: <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: FWIW: I?ve been running Brad Penn Green 30w for 10-12 years in my BN7 with no apparent issue. I understand the ZDDP has been reduced/removed from it in recent years but I am still using up inventory. I only run 2000 miles or so a year ( including a few track laps) but change it every other year or two. I have a variety of other cars, air cooled, water cooled and tracked all of which use Mobil 1 synthetic of various grades except the wife?s Lexus which gets dealer bulk whatever. Have thought about trying Mobil 1 on the Healey but increased leak risks prevent me from doing that yet. I always change filters on every oil change and open to inspect Them. Last year I found plastic and shavings in my track car oil filter so had new IMS and RMS replaced, (just in time at 86k hard miles) Just my .$02 on this thread. Regards, Richard C BN7 #440 On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:15, Roger Grace wrote: ? Interested to see that you feel it necessary to add additional zinc. VR1 already has 1300 ppm ? Is there a consensus on what amount is actually needed? Think that you can have too much too ? Am a VR1 user but don't add anything. rg ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Steele To: wwycoffbn7 at aol.com, 'healeylist' Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 08:41:40 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives I add a bottle of Red Line break-in additive with my annual oil change of Valvoline VR-1 20W50 racing oil. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:48 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives Hello, Tagging on to Michael's comment on ZDDP in oils, what additives do folks tend to use in their oils. Products like Red Line's "Engine oil beak-in additive" or something from NAPA, etc.? Having seen worn cams and pitted tappets, there is a desire to keep that sort of wear from happening as best as one can. Bill _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Sun Apr 26 10:43:25 2020 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (Mirek Sharp) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 12:43:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> References: <39782849.84758635.1587917715794.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <008e01d61be9$ce89de00$6b9d9a00$@sympatico.ca> I agree with Roger on the use of VR-1 sans additives. I have been using 20W50 Valvoline VR-1 in my old Brit motorcycles and my BT7 for well over 20 years (around when the ZDDP issues arose and I was doing a fair bit of motorcycle engine building) and have had no issues with it. My general feeling is that the oil companies do a lot of research into the formulation of their products and there is a wide array of product to choose from. It is more a matter of selecting a product from that wide array that works for your vehicle, not playing alchemy by making up custom mixes. In my opinion mixing oil products is akin to mixing medications; you really don?t know what reactions are going on. We rely on pharmacists to keep us on the straight and narrow with our meds, I think we should rely on the oil companies to do likewise with our lubricants. Just my isolated opinion, Cheers, Mirek From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Grace Sent: April-26-20 12:15 PM To: Bruce Steele Cc: 'healeylist'; wwycoffbn7 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives Interested to see that you feel it necessary to add additional zinc. VR1 already has 1300 ppm ? Is there a consensus on what amount is actually needed? Think that you can have too much too ? Am a VR1 user but don't add anything. rg ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Steele To: wwycoffbn7 at aol.com, 'healeylist' Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 08:41:40 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives I add a bottle of Red Line break-in additive with my annual oil change of Valvoline VR-1 20W50 racing oil. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:48 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives Hello, Tagging on to Michael's comment on ZDDP in oils, what additives do folks tend to use in their oils. Products like Red Line's "Engine oil beak-in additive" or something from NAPA, etc.? Having seen worn cams and pitted tappets, there is a desire to keep that sort of wear from happening as best as one can. Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 55healey at comcast.net Sun Apr 26 12:08:40 2020 From: 55healey at comcast.net (55healey at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 11:08:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <008e01d61be9$ce89de00$6b9d9a00$@sympatico.ca> References: <39782849.84758635.1587917715794.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> <008e01d61be9$ce89de00$6b9d9a00$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: I have been using 15-W40 Classic Car Motor Oil from the Indiana Region Classic Car Club . Perfect as it is. Very reasonable price even with shipping. https://inrccca.org/product/classic-car-motor-oil/ Rob > On Apr 26, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Mirek Sharp wrote: > > I agree with Roger on the use of VR-1 sans additives. I have been using 20W50 Valvoline VR-1 in my old Brit motorcycles and my BT7 for well over 20 years (around when the ZDDP issues arose and I was doing a fair bit of motorcycle engine building) and have had no issues with it. My general feeling is that the oil companies do a lot of research into the formulation of their products and there is a wide array of product to choose from. It is more a matter of selecting a product from that wide array that works for your vehicle, not playing alchemy by making up custom mixes. In my opinion mixing oil products is akin to mixing medications; you really don?t know what reactions are going on. We rely on pharmacists to keep us on the straight and narrow with our meds, I think we should rely on the oil companies to do likewise with our lubricants. > > Just my isolated opinion, Cheers, Mirek From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 26 13:50:47 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 12:50:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: References: <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: I noticed something interesting/odd--'interestingly odd?'--the other day at 'my' Costco: They no longer carried any non-synthetic oil besides Shell Rotella.? Along with the usual Mobil 1, they offered 'Kirkland Synthetic' in the lighter grades (0W-20, 5W-20, 0W-30, 10W30). There may come a day we can no longer get plain 'dino' oil, esp. in the lighter grades. On 4/26/2020 9:37 AM, Richard Collins wrote: > FWIW: > > I?ve been running Brad Penn Green 30w for 10-12 years in my BN7 with > no apparent issue. I understand the ZDDP has been reduced/removed from > it in recent years but I am still using up inventory. I only run 2000 > miles or so a year ( including a few track laps) but change it every > other year or two. > I have a variety of other cars, air cooled, water cooled and tracked > all of which use Mobil 1 synthetic of various grades except the wife?s > Lexus which gets dealer bulk whatever. Have thought about trying Mobil > 1 on the Healey but increased leak risks prevent me from doing that yet. > I always change filters on every oil change and open to inspect Them. > Last year I found plastic and shavings in my track car oil filter so > had new IMS and RMS replaced, (just in time at 86k hard miles) > Just my .$02 on this thread. > > Regards, > Richard C > BN7 #440 > > >> On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:15, Roger Grace wrote: >> >> ? >> Interested to see that you feel it necessary to add additional zinc. >> VR1 already has 1300 ppm ? >> Is there a consensus on what amount is actually needed? Think that >> you can have too much too ? >> Am a VR1 user but don't add anything. >> rg >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Bruce Steele >> To: wwycoffbn7 at aol.com, 'healeylist' >> Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 08:41:40 -0600 (MDT) >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives >> >> I add a bottle of Red Line break-in additive with my annual oil >> change of Valvoline VR-1 20W50 racing oil. >> >> Bruce Steele >> >> Brea, CA >> >> 1960 BN7 >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sun Apr 26 16:46:42 2020 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:46:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: References: <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: On my Healey I use either Castrol or Amsoil 20/50 full-synthetic plus one small bottle of ZDDPlus. I like K+N 2009 oil filters and always cut them apart after each oil change to inspect the filter medium for shiny bits. In my race engines I use Royal Purple racing oil plus above. Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 3:51 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > I noticed something interesting/odd--'interestingly odd?'--the other day > at 'my' Costco: They no longer carried any non-synthetic oil besides Shell > Rotella. Along with the usual Mobil 1, they offered 'Kirkland Synthetic' > in the lighter grades (0W-20, 5W-20, 0W-30, 10W30). > > There may come a day we can no longer get plain 'dino' oil, esp. in the > lighter grades. > > > On 4/26/2020 9:37 AM, Richard Collins wrote: > > FWIW: > > I?ve been running Brad Penn Green 30w for 10-12 years in my BN7 with no > apparent issue. I understand the ZDDP has been reduced/removed from it in > recent years but I am still using up inventory. I only run 2000 miles or so > a year ( including a few track laps) but change it every other year or > two. > I have a variety of other cars, air cooled, water cooled and tracked all > of which use Mobil 1 synthetic of various grades except the wife?s Lexus > which gets dealer bulk whatever. Have thought about trying Mobil 1 on the > Healey but increased leak risks prevent me from doing that yet. > I always change filters on every oil change and open to inspect Them. Last > year I found plastic and shavings in my track car oil filter so had new IMS > and RMS replaced, (just in time at 86k hard miles) > Just my .$02 on this thread. > > Regards, > Richard C > BN7 #440 > > > On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:15, Roger Grace > wrote: > > ? > Interested to see that you feel it necessary to add additional zinc. VR1 > already has 1300 ppm ? > Is there a consensus on what amount is actually needed? Think that you can > have too much too ? > Am a VR1 user but don't add anything. > rg > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bruce Steele > > To: wwycoffbn7 at aol.com, 'healeylist' > > Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 08:41:40 -0600 (MDT) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives > > I add a bottle of Red Line break-in additive with my annual oil change of > Valvoline VR-1 20W50 racing oil. > > > > Bruce Steele > > Brea, CA > > 1960 BN7 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Sun Apr 26 17:01:18 2020 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:01:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: References: <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: Lucas Oil makes a number of engine oils for cars, motorcycles, classic cars and racing applications. ZDDP ppm tends to increase with the demands on the engine. They suggest 2100 ppm for classic cars. A few easy miles per year would suggest a lower ZDDP and higher miles and/or if the engine is working harder then a higher ZDDP level. Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Oritt Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 3:47 PM To: Bob Spidell Cc: Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives On my Healey I use either Castrol or Amsoil 20/50 full-synthetic plus one small bottle of ZDDPlus. I like K+N 2009 oil filters and always cut them apart after each oil change to inspect the filter medium for shiny bits. In my race engines I use Royal Purple racing oil plus above. Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 3:51 PM Bob Spidell wrote: I noticed something interesting/odd--'interestingly odd?'--the other day at 'my' Costco: They no longer carried any non-synthetic oil besides Shell Rotella. Along with the usual Mobil 1, they offered 'Kirkland Synthetic' in the lighter grades (0W-20, 5W-20, 0W-30, 10W30). There may come a day we can no longer get plain 'dino' oil, esp. in the lighter grades. On 4/26/2020 9:37 AM, Richard Collins wrote: FWIW: I?ve been running Brad Penn Green 30w for 10-12 years in my BN7 with no apparent issue. I understand the ZDDP has been reduced/removed from it in recent years but I am still using up inventory. I only run 2000 miles or so a year ( including a few track laps) but change it every other year or two. I have a variety of other cars, air cooled, water cooled and tracked all of which use Mobil 1 synthetic of various grades except the wife?s Lexus which gets dealer bulk whatever. Have thought about trying Mobil 1 on the Healey but increased leak risks prevent me from doing that yet. I always change filters on every oil change and open to inspect Them. Last year I found plastic and shavings in my track car oil filter so had new IMS and RMS replaced, (just in time at 86k hard miles) Just my .$02 on this thread. Regards, Richard C BN7 #440 On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:15, Roger Grace wrote: ? Interested to see that you feel it necessary to add additional zinc. VR1 already has 1300 ppm ? Is there a consensus on what amount is actually needed? Think that you can have too much too ? Am a VR1 user but don't add anything. rg ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Steele To: wwycoffbn7 at aol.com, 'healeylist' Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 08:41:40 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives I add a bottle of Red Line break-in additive with my annual oil change of Valvoline VR-1 20W50 racing oil. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Zinc_Values_Lucas Oil.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 214267 bytes Desc: not available URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sun Apr 26 17:29:38 2020 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:29:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: References: <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: With respect, I don't see how camshafts can be expected to adjust their needs to the number of miles driven. Yes, lobe wear will be less with fewer miles but the object of the exercise is to eliminate it as much as possible. Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 7:01 PM Harold Manifold wrote: > Lucas Oil makes a number of engine oils for cars, motorcycles, classic > cars and racing applications. ZDDP ppm tends to increase with the demands > on the engine. They suggest 2100 ppm for classic cars. A few easy miles per > year would suggest a lower ZDDP and higher miles and/or if the engine is > working harder then a higher ZDDP level. > > Harold > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Michael > Oritt > *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2020 3:47 PM > *To:* Bob Spidell > *Cc:* Austin Healey > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives > > On my Healey I use either Castrol or Amsoil 20/50 full-synthetic plus one > small bottle of ZDDPlus. > I like K+N 2009 oil filters and always cut them apart after each oil > change to inspect the filter medium for shiny bits. > In my race engines I use Royal Purple racing oil plus above. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 3:51 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > >> I noticed something interesting/odd--'interestingly odd?'--the other day >> at 'my' Costco: They no longer carried any non-synthetic oil besides Shell >> Rotella. Along with the usual Mobil 1, they offered 'Kirkland Synthetic' >> in the lighter grades (0W-20, 5W-20, 0W-30, 10W30). >> >> There may come a day we can no longer get plain 'dino' oil, esp. in the >> lighter grades. >> >> >> On 4/26/2020 9:37 AM, Richard Collins wrote: >> >> FWIW: >> >> I?ve been running Brad Penn Green 30w for 10-12 years in my BN7 with no >> apparent issue. I understand the ZDDP has been reduced/removed from it in >> recent years but I am still using up inventory. I only run 2000 miles or so >> a year ( including a few track laps) but change it every other year or >> two. >> I have a variety of other cars, air cooled, water cooled and tracked all >> of which use Mobil 1 synthetic of various grades except the wife?s Lexus >> which gets dealer bulk whatever. Have thought about trying Mobil 1 on the >> Healey but increased leak risks prevent me from doing that yet. >> I always change filters on every oil change and open to inspect Them. >> Last year I found plastic and shavings in my track car oil filter so had >> new IMS and RMS replaced, (just in time at 86k hard miles) >> Just my .$02 on this thread. >> >> Regards, >> Richard C >> BN7 #440 >> >> >> On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:15, Roger Grace >> wrote: >> >> ? >> Interested to see that you feel it necessary to add additional zinc. VR1 >> already has 1300 ppm ? >> Is there a consensus on what amount is actually needed? Think that you >> can have too much too ? >> Am a VR1 user but don't add anything. >> rg >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Bruce Steele >> >> To: wwycoffbn7 at aol.com, 'healeylist' >> >> Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 08:41:40 -0600 (MDT) >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives >> >> I add a bottle of Red Line break-in additive with my annual oil change of >> Valvoline VR-1 20W50 racing oil. >> >> >> >> Bruce Steele >> >> Brea, CA >> >> 1960 BN7 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Apr 26 17:40:55 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:40:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: References: <1589796124.84758882.1587917723755.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <4c912a20-a528-88db-82fd-e3d7e7dde44f@comcast.net> Not shilling for Costco, but they have Kirkland Full Synthetic on sale for $26.99 for 2x5qt bottles (limit 2).? That's $2.70/qt for full synthetic, I haven't even seen dino oil for that cheap in a couple decades.? I ordered 2 of the 2-packs for my Ranger and Lincoln. BTW, Walmart still has the 'hidden special' on Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 Racing Oil. Bob On 4/26/2020 12:50 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > I noticed something interesting/odd--'interestingly odd?'--the other > day at 'my' Costco: They no longer carried any non-synthetic oil > besides Shell Rotella.? Along with the usual Mobil 1, they offered > 'Kirkland Synthetic' in the lighter grades (0W-20, 5W-20, 0W-30, 10W30). > > There may come a day we can no longer get plain 'dino' oil, esp. in > the lighter grades. > From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Mon Apr 27 04:58:22 2020 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 22:58:22 +1200 Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Message-ID: <001401d61c82$c620e8a0$5262b9e0$@xtra.co.nz> Bruce, In your second photo I see what appears to be a Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension. I had one on my 1961 Austin-Cooper many years ago. Being bigger than the stock accelerator size, does it improve things ? like heel and toeing? I assume it fits neatly over the pedal as it appears, from memory, to be the same size as in the Mini Cooper. Cheers Mark Ardmore NZ -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Steele Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 2:40 a.m. To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com; 'healeylist' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights Interesting way to flood the dash. When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells. Two projects for me: 1. I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps. Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel. Hint: It is Healey related. 2. I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [ mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PM To: healey list < healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Lights So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From waschu2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 27 14:41:49 2020 From: waschu2 at gmail.com (Wayne Schultz) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:41:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives Message-ID: Hello everyone, I recently completed a rebuild of the engine in my Healey 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my oil pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good oil pressure and a very quiet motor. I pulled the motor and upon teardown I found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting. I thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion I, rather than the oil might be the reason for the cam failure. I drove my car every couple of weeks in nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the cam and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started the engine the cam and lifters might have been metal on metal. My new lifters are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to lubricate the cam lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Apr 27 17:35:58 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:35:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <321437bc-8364-e118-33f0-feb02b8fbd2f@comcast.net> I think this is the kind of failure ZDDP is supposed to help prevent.? I doubt Mobil 1 has a lot of ZDDP in it; it was basically 'outlawed' in all but 20W-50--since very few modern cars use that weight and even fewer have flat tappets--and I don't think I've even seen M1 in that weight.?? It doesn't sound to me like you did anything wrong with your driving habits; just a bit of bad luck maybe.? My last rebuild I got a DW 'gun-drilled' cam, which I hope helps prevent lobe wear. Decades ago, Mobile made a 'Mobile 1' for aircraft and it was an unmitigated disaster; it didn't scavenge the lead in 100LL and the lead gunked-up rings (esp. in 'big block' Continental engines).? I heard a few unscrupulous aircraft owners got new engine rebuilds if they used it, even if they didn't have a problem (a rebuild on a big Continental can run $50K or more).? In the piston aircraft community, it was gospel that you used multi-vis oil only in the winter, and straight 100W--equivalent to 50W motor oil--in the summer and because it supposedly left a thicker film of oil on the moving parts (most piston aircraft have hydraulic lifters). Bob On 4/27/2020 1:41 PM, Wayne Schultz wrote: > Hello everyone, I recently completed?a rebuild of the engine in my > Healey 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I > dropped my oil pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the > block that lined up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for > years and always had good oil pressure and a very quiet motor.? I > pulled the motor and upon teardown I found one bad cam lobe and > several lifters that had mild pitting.? I thought about how I used my > car and came to conclusion? I, rather than the oil might?be?the? > reason for the cam failure.? I drove my car every couple of weeks in > nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the cam > and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started > the engine the cam and lifters?might have been metal on metal.? My new > lifters are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to lubricate?the > cam lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50 > > From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Apr 27 18:03:04 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 17:03:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <321437bc-8364-e118-33f0-feb02b8fbd2f@comcast.net> References: <321437bc-8364-e118-33f0-feb02b8fbd2f@comcast.net> Message-ID: Just thought of something: How did you break-in the cam that failed (and the new one, for that matter)? On 4/27/2020 4:35 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > I think this is the kind of failure ZDDP is supposed to help prevent.? > I doubt Mobil 1 has a lot of ZDDP in it; it was basically 'outlawed' > in all but 20W-50--since very few modern cars use that weight and even > fewer have flat tappets--and I don't think I've even seen M1 in that > weight.?? It doesn't sound to me like you did anything wrong with your > driving habits; just a bit of bad luck maybe.? My last rebuild I got a > DW 'gun-drilled' cam, which I hope helps prevent lobe wear. > > Decades ago, Mobile made a 'Mobile 1' for aircraft and it was an > unmitigated disaster; it didn't scavenge the lead in 100LL and the > lead gunked-up rings (esp. in 'big block' Continental engines).? I > heard a few unscrupulous aircraft owners got new engine rebuilds if > they used it, even if they didn't have a problem (a rebuild on a big > Continental can run $50K or more).? In the piston aircraft community, > it was gospel that you used multi-vis oil only in the winter, and > straight 100W--equivalent to 50W motor oil--in the summer and because > it supposedly left a thicker film of oil on the moving parts (most > piston aircraft have hydraulic lifters). > > Bob > > On 4/27/2020 1:41 PM, Wayne Schultz wrote: >> Hello everyone, I recently completed?a rebuild of the engine in my >> Healey 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I >> dropped my oil pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the >> block that lined up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for >> years and always had good oil pressure and a very quiet motor.? I >> pulled the motor and upon teardown I found one bad cam lobe and >> several lifters that had mild pitting.? I thought about how I used my >> car and came to conclusion? I, rather than the oil might?be?the? >> reason for the cam failure.? I drove my car every couple of weeks in >> nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the cam >> and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started >> the engine the cam and lifters?might have been metal on metal.? My >> new lifters are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to >> lubricate?the cam lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50 >> >> > From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Apr 27 19:51:12 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:51:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Listers / Wayne I was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in the original configuration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way off. It would seem most of the lubrication comes from the steady drip that comes out at the rocker and runs down the pushrod. First the tappets (lifters) get some oil, then passes by the lifter and then on to the cam lobe. The oil dripping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the head and drops through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some worn out engines this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil fog that is in the crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due to the squirt of oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was to oil down the piston bores but coats pretty much everything. The bucket lifters, which by the way was an old hot rod trick from the early days of Austin Healeys, using lighter weight lifters out of a straight eight Oldsmobile (if I remember correctly) and longer pushrods may or may not be drilled to allow oil to the cam lobe/lifter face. Some guys used pressurized oil to squirt the interface when the bucket was not drilled. The bucket lifters sold years ago that did not have a hole in the lifters had failure problems. A hole was added but the problem with the drilled hole in the bucket it could clog and there was little to no lubrication of the cam lobes, thus major wear. I?m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused by a plugged hole in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it is a possibility. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Wayne Schultz Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 4:49 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives Hello everyone, I recently completed?a rebuild of the engine in my Healey 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my oil pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good oil pressure and a very quiet motor.? I pulled the motor and upon teardown I found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting.? I thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion? I, rather than the oil might?be?the? reason for the cam failure.? I drove my car every couple of weeks in nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the cam and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started the engine the cam and lifters?might have been metal on metal.? My new lifters are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to lubricate?the cam lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Apr 27 23:05:32 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 05:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <20200428015326.A1BD8A0FE7@autox.team.net> References: <20200428015326.A1BD8A0FE7@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <1282840332.1373284.1588050332566@mail.yahoo.com> You can get "Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50" for Harley Davidson type motorcycles in a pinch.? It contains the ZDDP required for our cars.? If you want conventional oil I have used Kendall GT-1 Competition 20W-50 in my Healeys and MGB for years.? All the ZDDP you need plus other additives to protect your followers and camshaft at shutdown.? You can get the Kendall oil at Pacific Northwest or Amazon or directly from Kendall.? Search around the internet for the best price.? You can find it for half the price of the Mobil 1 V-Twin synthetic oil. British Parts Northwest Kendall GT-1 High Performance 20W-50 Oil | | | | British Parts Northwest Kendall GT-1 High Performance 20W-50 Oil The correct motor oil is getting harder and hard to find for your Classic British car. Don't believe that the o... | | | Mike MacLean On Monday, April 27, 2020, 6:53:28 PM PDT, Perry via Healeys wrote: #yiv5086684710 #yiv5086684710 -- _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv5086684710 #yiv5086684710 p.yiv5086684710MsoNormal, #yiv5086684710 li.yiv5086684710MsoNormal, #yiv5086684710 div.yiv5086684710MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv5086684710 a:link, #yiv5086684710 span.yiv5086684710MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5086684710 .yiv5086684710MsoChpDefault {} _filtered {}#yiv5086684710 div.yiv5086684710WordSection1 {}#yiv5086684710 Listers / Wayne I was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in the original configuration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way off. It would seem most of the lubrication comes from the steady drip that comes out at the rocker and runs down the pushrod. First the tappets (lifters) get some oil, then passes by the lifter and then on to the cam lobe. The oil dripping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the head and drops through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some worn out engines this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil fog that is in the crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due to the squirt of oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was to oil down the piston bores but coats pretty much everything. The bucket lifters, which by the way was an old hot rod trick from the early days of Austin Healeys, using lighter weight lifters out of a straight eight Oldsmobile (if I remember correctly) and longer pushrods may or may not be drilled to allow oil to the cam lobe/lifter face. Some guys used pressurized oil to squirt the interface when the bucket was not drilled. The bucket lifters sold years ago that did not have a hole in the lifters had failure problems. A hole was added but the problem with the drilled hole in the bucket it could clog and there was little to no lubrication of the cam lobes, thus major wear. ? I?m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused by a plugged hole in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it is a possibility. Perry ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: Wayne Schultz Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 4:49 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives ? Hello everyone, I recently completed?a rebuild of the engine in my Healey 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my oil pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good oil pressure and a very quiet motor.? I pulled the motor and upon teardown I found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting.? I thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion? I, rather than the oil might?be?the? reason for the cam failure.? I drove my car every couple of weeks in nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the cam and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started the engine the cam and lifters?might have been metal on metal.? My new lifters are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to lubricate?the cam lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50 ? ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Apr 28 05:21:51 2020 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 07:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <1282840332.1373284.1588050332566@mail.yahoo.com> References: <20200428015326.A1BD8A0FE7@autox.team.net> <1282840332.1373284.1588050332566@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <492926649.65584884.1588072911972.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Val VR1 20/50 racing oil--"High Zinc". Been using in it my Healey and XKE for a long time. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael MacLean To: Wayne Schultz , healeys at autox.team.net, Perry Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives You can get "Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50" for Harley Davidson type motorcycles in a pinch. It contains the ZDDP required for our cars. If you want conventional oil I have used Kendall GT-1 Competition 20W-50 in my Healeys and MGB for years. All the ZDDP you need plus other additives to protect your followers and camshaft at shutdown. You can get the Kendall oil at Pacific Northwest or Amazon or directly from Kendall. Search around the internet for the best price. You can find it for half the price of the Mobil 1 V-Twin synthetic oil. British Parts Northwest Kendall GT-1 High Performance 20W-50 Oil British Parts Northwest Kendall GT-1 High Performance 20W-50 OilThe correct motor oil is getting harder and hard to find for your Classic British car. Don't believe that the o... Mike MacLean On Monday, April 27, 2020, 6:53:28 PM PDT, Perry via Healeys wrote: Listers / WayneI was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in the original configuration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way off.It would seem most of the lubrication comes from the steady drip that comes out at the rocker and runs down the pushrod. First the tappets (lifters) get some oil, then passes by the lifter and then on to the cam lobe.The oil dripping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the head and drops through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some worn out engines this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil fog that is in the crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due to the squirt of oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was to oil down the piston bores but coats pretty much everything.The bucket lifters, which by the way was an old hot rod trick from the early days of Austin Healeys, using lighter weight lifters out of a straight eight Oldsmobile (if I remember correctly) and longer pushrods may or may not be drilled to allow oil to the cam lobe/lifter face. Some guys used pressurized oil to squirt the interface when the bucket was not drilled. The bucket lifters sold years ago that did not have a hole in the lifters had failure problems. A hole was added but the problem with the drilled hole in the bucket it could clog and there was little to no lubrication of the cam lobes, thus major wear. I?m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused by a plugged hole in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it is a possibility.Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Wayne SchultzSent: Monday, April 27, 2020 4:49 PMTo: healeys at autox.team.netSubject: [Healeys] Oil Additives Hello everyone, I recently completed a rebuild of the engine in my Healey 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my oil pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good oil pressure and a very quiet motor. I pulled the motor and upon teardown I found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting. I thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion I, rather than the oil might be the reason for the cam failure. I drove my car every couple of weeks in nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the cam and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started the engine the cam and lifters might have been metal on metal. My new lifters are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to lubricate the cam lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50 _______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archiveHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From happolk at cox.net Tue Apr 28 08:37:39 2020 From: happolk at cox.net (Hap Polk) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 07:37:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <20200428015330.5DCA1A10BB@autox.team.net> References: <20200428015330.5DCA1A10BB@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <00c701d61d6a$92e37f50$b8aa7df0$@cox.net> Perry, Ii was a Buick Straight-8 (Fireball 8) engine from 1931 to 1953. The small block version, up to 273 cubic inch capacity came with lifters and push rods that could be dropped in a Healey 4-cylinder. The lifters were considerably lighter, especially if one added an oil drain hole to the lubricate the cam and not have to lift a bucket of oil each revolution. The push rods were slightly larger in diameter and appeared to my eye to be stronger. The Buick lifter and push rods coupled with Dodge valves and titanium valve spring caps was the hot set up. When joined by an Isky or Crane cam, rumors were a 4-cylider could touch 8,000 rpm for brief moments. I was never able to verify the 8,000 rpm story told by some Southern California BMC dealers in the late 50s and early 60s. In 1961, I ran the Buick lifters and push rods with an Isky ? race cam in a ported head. My personal rpm limit remained 4,800 rpm. Mid-range torque was improved per my butt meter. The Healey-Hunter DOHC conversion engine race redline was 7,000 rpm. Their cranks were fully polished and ran with lighter pistons and rods. Avoiding resonance frequencies, especially around 5,200 rpm was understood. In their very limited race life, no crank failures were noted, but rapid cam wear was. Does anyone know what race rpm limit some Healey 4-clynders engines are running these days with a steel billet crank, lighter internals, and a somewhat reinforcing cast aluminum sump? Hap Polk 100M From: Healeys On Behalf Of Perry via Healeys Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:51 PM To: Wayne Schultz ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives Listers / Wayne I was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in the original configuration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way off. It would seem most of the lubrication comes from the steady drip that comes out at the rocker and runs down the pushrod. First the tappets (lifters) get some oil, then passes by the lifter and then on to the cam lobe. The oil dripping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the head and drops through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some worn out engines this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil fog that is in the crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due to the squirt of oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was to oil down the piston bores but coats pretty much everything. The bucket lifters, which by the way was an old hot rod trick from the early days of Austin Healeys, using lighter weight lifters out of a straight eight Oldsmobile (if I remember correctly) and longer pushrods may or may not be drilled to allow oil to the cam lobe/lifter face. Some guys used pressurized oil to squirt the interface when the bucket was not drilled. The bucket lifters sold years ago that did not have a hole in the lifters had failure problems. A hole was added but the problem with the drilled hole in the bucket it could clog and there was little to no lubrication of the cam lobes, thus major wear. I?m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused by a plugged hole in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it is a possibility. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Wayne Schultz Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 4:49 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives Hello everyone, I recently completed a rebuild of the engine in my Healey 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my oil pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good oil pressure and a very quiet motor. I pulled the motor and upon teardown I found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting. I thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion I, rather than the oil might be the reason for the cam failure. I drove my car every couple of weeks in nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the cam and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started the engine the cam and lifters might have been metal on metal. My new lifters are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to lubricate the cam lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Apr 28 09:41:46 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:41:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <00c701d61d6a$92e37f50$b8aa7df0$@cox.net> References: <20200428015330.5DCA1A10BB@autox.team.net> <00c701d61d6a$92e37f50$b8aa7df0$@cox.net> Message-ID: Thanks Hap. My memory is not what it used to be. Good to see your name pop up. Hope all is well. Aloha Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Hap Polk Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:37 AM To: 'Perry'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Oil Additives Perry, Ii was a Buick Straight-8 (Fireball 8) engine from 1931 to 1953. The small block version, up to 273 cubic inch capacity came with lifters and push rods that could be dropped in a Healey 4-cylinder. The lifters were considerably lighter, especially if one added an oil drain hole to the lubricate the cam and not have to lift a bucket of oil each revolution. The push rods were slightly larger in diameter and appeared to my eye to be stronger. The Buick lifter and push rods coupled with Dodge valves and? titanium valve spring caps was the hot set up. When joined by an Isky or Crane cam, rumors were a 4-cylider could touch 8,000 rpm for brief moments. I was never able to verify the 8,000 rpm story told by some Southern California BMC dealers in the late 50s and early 60s. In 1961, I ran the Buick lifters and push rods with an Isky ? race cam in a ported head. My personal rpm limit remained 4,800 rpm. Mid-range torque was improved per my butt meter. The Healey-Hunter DOHC conversion engine race redline was 7,000 rpm. Their cranks were fully polished and ran with lighter pistons and rods. Avoiding resonance frequencies, especially around 5,200 rpm was understood. In their very limited race life, no crank failures were noted, but rapid cam wear was. Does anyone know what race rpm limit some Healey 4-clynders engines are running these days with a steel billet crank, lighter internals, and a somewhat reinforcing cast aluminum sump? Hap Polk 100M From: Healeys On Behalf Of Perry via Healeys Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:51 PM To: Wayne Schultz ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives Listers / Wayne I was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in the original configuration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way off. It would seem most of the lubrication comes from the steady drip that comes out at the rocker and runs down the pushrod. First the tappets (lifters) get some oil, then passes by the lifter and then on to the cam lobe. The oil dripping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the head and drops through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some worn out engines this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil fog that is in the crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due to the squirt of oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was to oil down the piston bores but coats pretty much everything. The bucket lifters, which by the way was an old hot rod trick from the early days of Austin Healeys, using lighter weight lifters out of a straight eight Oldsmobile (if I remember correctly) and longer pushrods may or may not be drilled to allow oil to the cam lobe/lifter face. Some guys used pressurized oil to squirt the interface when the bucket was not drilled. The bucket lifters sold years ago that did not have a hole in the lifters had failure problems. A hole was added but the problem with the drilled hole in the bucket it could clog and there was little to no lubrication of the cam lobes, thus major wear. ? I?m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused by a plugged hole in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it is a possibility. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Wayne Schultz Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 4:49 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives Hello everyone, I recently completed?a rebuild of the engine in my Healey 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my oil pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good oil pressure and a very quiet motor.? I pulled the motor and upon teardown I found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting.? I thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion? I, rather than the oil might?be?the? reason for the cam failure.? I drove my car every couple of weeks in nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the cam and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started the engine the cam and lifters?might have been metal on metal.? My new lifters are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to lubricate?the cam lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Apr 28 09:41:46 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:41:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <00c701d61d6a$92e37f50$b8aa7df0$@cox.net> References: <20200428015330.5DCA1A10BB@autox.team.net> <00c701d61d6a$92e37f50$b8aa7df0$@cox.net> Message-ID: Thanks Hap. My memory is not what it used to be. Good to see your name pop up. Hope all is well. Aloha Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Hap Polk Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:37 AM To: 'Perry'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Oil Additives Perry, Ii was a Buick Straight-8 (Fireball 8) engine from 1931 to 1953. The small block version, up to 273 cubic inch capacity came with lifters and push rods that could be dropped in a Healey 4-cylinder. The lifters were considerably lighter, especially if one added an oil drain hole to the lubricate the cam and not have to lift a bucket of oil each revolution. The push rods were slightly larger in diameter and appeared to my eye to be stronger. The Buick lifter and push rods coupled with Dodge valves and? titanium valve spring caps was the hot set up. When joined by an Isky or Crane cam, rumors were a 4-cylider could touch 8,000 rpm for brief moments. I was never able to verify the 8,000 rpm story told by some Southern California BMC dealers in the late 50s and early 60s. In 1961, I ran the Buick lifters and push rods with an Isky ? race cam in a ported head. My personal rpm limit remained 4,800 rpm. Mid-range torque was improved per my butt meter. The Healey-Hunter DOHC conversion engine race redline was 7,000 rpm. Their cranks were fully polished and ran with lighter pistons and rods. Avoiding resonance frequencies, especially around 5,200 rpm was understood. In their very limited race life, no crank failures were noted, but rapid cam wear was. Does anyone know what race rpm limit some Healey 4-clynders engines are running these days with a steel billet crank, lighter internals, and a somewhat reinforcing cast aluminum sump? Hap Polk 100M From: Healeys On Behalf Of Perry via Healeys Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:51 PM To: Wayne Schultz ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives Listers / Wayne I was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in the original configuration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way off. It would seem most of the lubrication comes from the steady drip that comes out at the rocker and runs down the pushrod. First the tappets (lifters) get some oil, then passes by the lifter and then on to the cam lobe. The oil dripping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the head and drops through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some worn out engines this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil fog that is in the crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due to the squirt of oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was to oil down the piston bores but coats pretty much everything. The bucket lifters, which by the way was an old hot rod trick from the early days of Austin Healeys, using lighter weight lifters out of a straight eight Oldsmobile (if I remember correctly) and longer pushrods may or may not be drilled to allow oil to the cam lobe/lifter face. Some guys used pressurized oil to squirt the interface when the bucket was not drilled. The bucket lifters sold years ago that did not have a hole in the lifters had failure problems. A hole was added but the problem with the drilled hole in the bucket it could clog and there was little to no lubrication of the cam lobes, thus major wear. ? I?m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused by a plugged hole in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it is a possibility. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Wayne Schultz Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 4:49 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives Hello everyone, I recently completed?a rebuild of the engine in my Healey 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my oil pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good oil pressure and a very quiet motor.? I pulled the motor and upon teardown I found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting.? I thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion? I, rather than the oil might?be?the? reason for the cam failure.? I drove my car every couple of weeks in nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the cam and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started the engine the cam and lifters?might have been metal on metal.? My new lifters are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to lubricate?the cam lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Apr 28 10:14:19 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 12:14:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <00c701d61d6a$92e37f50$b8aa7df0$@cox.net> References: <20200428015330.5DCA1A10BB@autox.team.net> <00c701d61d6a$92e37f50$b8aa7df0$@cox.net> Message-ID: Wow 8000 R.P.M from a 100 engine ... I'd say that is very unlikely! We managed to get a big valve, "S" head, short stroke engine up to 6200 but nothing that we tried, despite hours of dyno work, could produce anything like those revs. Maybe with a very big blower and many spare cranks. You can read about our attempts here. M On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:45 AM Hap Polk wrote: > Perry, > > Ii was a Buick Straight-8 (Fireball 8) engine from 1931 to 1953. The small > block version, up to 273 cubic inch capacity came with lifters and push > rods that could be dropped in a Healey 4-cylinder. The lifters were > considerably lighter, especially if one added an oil drain hole to the > lubricate the cam and not have to lift a bucket of oil each revolution. The > push rods were slightly larger in diameter and appeared to my eye to be > stronger. The Buick lifter and push rods coupled with Dodge valves and > titanium valve spring caps was the hot set up. When joined by an Isky or > Crane cam, rumors were a 4-cylider could touch 8,000 rpm for brief moments. > I was never able to verify the 8,000 rpm story told by some Southern > California BMC dealers in the late 50s and early 60s. In 1961, I ran the > Buick lifters and push rods with an Isky ? race cam in a ported head. My > personal rpm limit remained 4,800 rpm. Mid-range torque was improved per my > butt meter. > > > > The Healey-Hunter DOHC conversion engine race redline was 7,000 rpm. Their > cranks were fully polished and ran with lighter pistons and rods. Avoiding > resonance frequencies, especially around 5,200 rpm was understood. In their > very limited race life, no crank failures were noted, but rapid cam wear > was. > > > > Does anyone know what race rpm limit some Healey 4-clynders engines are > running these days with a steel billet crank, lighter internals, and a > somewhat reinforcing cast aluminum sump? > > Hap Polk > > 100M > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Perry via > Healeys > *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2020 6:51 PM > *To:* Wayne Schultz ; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives > > > > Listers / Wayne > > I was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in the original > configuration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way off. > > It would seem most of the lubrication comes from the steady drip that > comes out at the rocker and runs down the pushrod. First the tappets > (lifters) get some oil, then passes by the lifter and then on to the cam > lobe. > > The oil dripping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the > head and drops through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some > worn out engines this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil > fog that is in the crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due > to the squirt of oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was > to oil down the piston bores but coats pretty much everything. > > The bucket lifters, which by the way was an old hot rod trick from the > early days of Austin Healeys, using lighter weight lifters out of a > straight eight Oldsmobile (if I remember correctly) and longer pushrods may > or may not be drilled to allow oil to the cam lobe/lifter face. Some guys > used pressurized oil to squirt the interface when the bucket was not > drilled. The bucket lifters sold years ago that did not have a hole in the > lifters had failure problems. A hole was added but the problem with the > drilled hole in the bucket it could clog and there was little to no > lubrication of the cam lobes, thus major wear. > > I?m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused by a plugged hole > in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it is a possibility. > > Perry > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Wayne Schultz > *Sent: *Monday, April 27, 2020 4:49 PM > *To: *healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *[Healeys] Oil Additives > > > > Hello everyone, I recently completed a rebuild of the engine in my Healey > 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my oil > pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined up > with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good oil > pressure and a very quiet motor. I pulled the motor and upon teardown I > found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting. I > thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion I, rather than the > oil might be the reason for the cam failure. I drove my car every couple > of weeks in nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the > cam and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started > the engine the cam and lifters might have been metal on metal. My new > lifters are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to lubricate the cam > lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Tue Apr 28 11:36:25 2020 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:36:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension In-Reply-To: <001401d61c82$c620e8a0$5262b9e0$@xtra.co.nz> References: <001401d61c82$c620e8a0$5262b9e0$@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: <004f01d61d83$8b0ee9e0$a12cbda0$@gmail.com> Hi Bruce ? maybe you can share with us how you did this: [1] Do the pedal pads mount to the stock pedal arms, or require modification? I was also going to ask for the source, but they appear to say ?DWR? on them, so maybe I already know ?; [2] A while back you shared the look of your sisal mats. That pic shows that you refined your dead pedal from the prior aluminum box to something better ? how does the dead pedal work? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:58 AM To: 'Bruce Steele' ; 'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Bruce, In your second photo I see what appears to be a Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension. I had one on my 1961 Austin-Cooper many years ago. Being bigger than the stock accelerator size, does it improve things ? like heel and toeing? I assume it fits neatly over the pedal as it appears, from memory, to be the same size as in the Mini Cooper. Cheers Mark Ardmore NZ -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Steele > Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 2:40 a.m. To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com ; 'healeylist' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights Interesting way to flood the dash. When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells. Two projects for me: 1. I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps. Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel. Hint: It is Healey related. 2. I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [ mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PM To: healey list < healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Lights So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163710 bytes Desc: not available URL: From roggrace at telus.net Tue Apr 28 12:07:28 2020 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 12:07:28 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension In-Reply-To: <004f01d61d83$8b0ee9e0$a12cbda0$@gmail.com> References: <001401d61c82$c620e8a0$5262b9e0$@xtra.co.nz> <004f01d61d83$8b0ee9e0$a12cbda0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1039349993.87167483.1588097248326.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> I also bought a set from DW. However didn't use their gas pedal or his dip switch idea. Found the DW gas pedal too big. What I did do was to mount the clutch pedal not central to the lever but on the LHS. Made some tight fitting spacers with longer bolts. This gives an additional 1/2 in pedal separation. rg ----- Original Message ----- From: alfuller194 at gmail.com To: 'Mark Donaldson' , 'Bruce Steele' , 'healeylist' Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:36:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Hi Bruce ? maybe you can share with us how you did this:[1] Do the pedal pads mount to the stock pedal arms, or require modification? I was also going to ask for the source, but they appear to say ?DWR? on them, so maybe I already know ?;[2] A while back you shared the look of your sisal mats. That pic shows that you refined your dead pedal from the prior aluminum box to something better ? how does the dead pedal work? ----------------All the best,Al Fuller A picture containing sitting, table, food, desk Description automatically generated From: Healeys On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:58 AM To: 'Bruce Steele' ; 'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Bruce, In your second photo I see what appears to be a Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension. I had one on my 1961 Austin-Cooper many years ago. Being bigger than the stock accelerator size, does it improve things ? like heel and toeing? I assume it fits neatly over the pedal as it appears, from memory, to be the same size as in the Mini Cooper. CheersMark ArdmoreNZ -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Steele Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 2:40 a.m. To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com; 'healeylist' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights Interesting way to flood the dash. When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells. Two projects for me:1. I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps. Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel. Hint: It is Healey related.2. I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. Bruce SteeleBrea, CA1960 BN7 -----Original Message-----From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via HealeysSent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PMTo: healey list Subject: [Healeys] Lights So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Apr 28 12:13:29 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:13:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension In-Reply-To: <1039349993.87167483.1588097248326.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> References: <001401d61c82$c620e8a0$5262b9e0$@xtra.co.nz> <004f01d61d83$8b0ee9e0$a12cbda0$@gmail.com> <1039349993.87167483.1588097248326.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: If you enlarge the photo of the pedal pads it has DWR cast into the surface. I could not get to Dennis Welsh racing site to verify availability. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Roger Grace Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:07 PM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com Cc: 'Mark Donaldson'; 'healeylist' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension I also bought a set from DW. However didn't use their gas pedal or his dip switch idea. Found the DW gas pedal too big. What I did do was to mount the clutch pedal not central to the lever but on the LHS. Made some tight fitting spacers with longer bolts. This gives an additional 1/2 in pedal separation. rg ----- Original Message ----- From: alfuller194 at gmail.com To: 'Mark Donaldson' , 'Bruce Steele' , 'healeylist' Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:36:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji"; panose-1:2 11 5 2 4 2 4 2 2 3;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:#0563C1; text-decoration:underline;} p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText, div.MsoPlainText {mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Plain Text Char"; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif; color:#0033CC;} span.PlainTextChar {mso-style-name:"Plain Text Char"; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Plain Text"; font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif; color:#0033CC;} span.EmailStyle22 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:windowtext;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --> Hi Bruce ? maybe you can share with us how you did this: [1] Do the pedal pads mount to the stock pedal arms, or require modification? I was also going to ask for the source, but they appear to say ?DWR? on them, so maybe I already know ?; [2] A while back you shared the look of your sisal mats. That pic shows that you refined your dead pedal from the prior aluminum box to something better ? how does the dead pedal work? ? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller ? ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:58 AM To: 'Bruce Steele' ; 'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension ? Bruce, ? In your second photo I see what appears to be a Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension.? I had one on my 1961 Austin-Cooper many years ago.? Being bigger than the stock accelerator size, does it improve things ? like heel and toeing?? I assume it fits neatly over the pedal as it appears, from memory, to be the same size as in the Mini Cooper. ? Cheers Mark ? Ardmore NZ ? -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Steele Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 2:40 a.m. To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com; 'healeylist' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights ? Interesting way to flood the dash.? When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells.? Two projects for me: 1.? I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps.? Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel.? Hint:? It is Healey related. 2.? I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. ? Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 ? ? -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PM To: healey list Subject: [Healeys] Lights ? So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . ????????? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 4D55FF0B8D1345D09537231A7E94F284.png Type: image/png Size: 1583 bytes Desc: not available URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Apr 28 12:13:29 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:13:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension In-Reply-To: <1039349993.87167483.1588097248326.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> References: <001401d61c82$c620e8a0$5262b9e0$@xtra.co.nz> <004f01d61d83$8b0ee9e0$a12cbda0$@gmail.com> <1039349993.87167483.1588097248326.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: If you enlarge the photo of the pedal pads it has DWR cast into the surface. I could not get to Dennis Welsh racing site to verify availability. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Roger Grace Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:07 PM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com Cc: 'Mark Donaldson'; 'healeylist' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension I also bought a set from DW. However didn't use their gas pedal or his dip switch idea. Found the DW gas pedal too big. What I did do was to mount the clutch pedal not central to the lever but on the LHS. Made some tight fitting spacers with longer bolts. This gives an additional 1/2 in pedal separation. rg ----- Original Message ----- From: alfuller194 at gmail.com To: 'Mark Donaldson' , 'Bruce Steele' , 'healeylist' Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:36:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji"; panose-1:2 11 5 2 4 2 4 2 2 3;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:#0563C1; text-decoration:underline;} p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText, div.MsoPlainText {mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Plain Text Char"; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif; color:#0033CC;} span.PlainTextChar {mso-style-name:"Plain Text Char"; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Plain Text"; font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif; color:#0033CC;} span.EmailStyle22 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:windowtext;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --> Hi Bruce ? maybe you can share with us how you did this: [1] Do the pedal pads mount to the stock pedal arms, or require modification? I was also going to ask for the source, but they appear to say ?DWR? on them, so maybe I already know ?; [2] A while back you shared the look of your sisal mats. That pic shows that you refined your dead pedal from the prior aluminum box to something better ? how does the dead pedal work? ? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller ? ? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:58 AM To: 'Bruce Steele' ; 'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension ? Bruce, ? In your second photo I see what appears to be a Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension.? I had one on my 1961 Austin-Cooper many years ago.? Being bigger than the stock accelerator size, does it improve things ? like heel and toeing?? I assume it fits neatly over the pedal as it appears, from memory, to be the same size as in the Mini Cooper. ? Cheers Mark ? Ardmore NZ ? -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Steele Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 2:40 a.m. To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com; 'healeylist' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights ? Interesting way to flood the dash.? When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells.? Two projects for me: 1.? I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps.? Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel.? Hint:? It is Healey related. 2.? I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. ? Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 ? ? -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PM To: healey list Subject: [Healeys] Lights ? So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . ????????? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 4D55FF0B8D1345D09537231A7E94F284.png Type: image/png Size: 1583 bytes Desc: not available URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Tue Apr 28 14:40:23 2020 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:40:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: <492926649.65584884.1588072911972.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <20200428015326.A1BD8A0FE7@autox.team.net> <1282840332.1373284.1588050332566@mail.yahoo.com> <492926649.65584884.1588072911972.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: I agree with Bob and think this is a perfect example of what happens to flat tappet cams without adequate zddp levels. In 2007 before the effects of lower zddp levels in oil were well known I lost a brand new race cam in my MGA-powered Courier in one weekend. Best--Michael Oritt On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 7:31 AM Tom Felts wrote: > Val VR1 20/50 racing oil--"High Zinc". Been using in it my Healey and XKE > for a long time. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael MacLean > To: Wayne Schultz , healeys at autox.team.net, Perry < > healeyguy at aol.com> > Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:05:32 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives > > You can get "Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50" for Harley Davidson type motorcycles > in a pinch. It contains the ZDDP required for our cars. If you want > conventional oil I have used Kendall GT-1 Competition 20W-50 in my Healeys > and MGB for years. All the ZDDP you need plus other additives to protect > your followers and camshaft at shutdown. You can get the Kendall oil at > Pacific Northwest or Amazon or directly from Kendall. Search around the > internet for the best price. You can find it for half the price of the > Mobil 1 V-Twin synthetic oil. > > British Parts Northwest Kendall GT-1 High Performance 20W-50 Oil > > > British Parts Northwest Kendall GT-1 High Performance 20W-50 Oil > > The correct motor oil is getting harder and hard to find for your Classic > British car. Don't believe that the o... > > Mike MacLean > > > > On Monday, April 27, 2020, 6:53:28 PM PDT, Perry via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Listers / Wayne > > I was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in the original > configuration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way off. > > It would seem most of the lubrication comes from the steady drip that > comes out at the rocker and runs down the pushrod. First the tappets > (lifters) get some oil, then passes by the lifter and then on to the cam > lobe. > > The oil dripping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the > head and drops through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some > worn out engines this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil > fog that is in the crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due > to the squirt of oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was > to oil down the piston bores but coats pretty much everything. > > The bucket lifters, which by the way was an old hot rod trick from the > early days of Austin Healeys, using lighter weight lifters out of a > straight eight Oldsmobile (if I remember correctly) and longer pushrods may > or may not be drilled to allow oil to the cam lobe/lifter face. Some guys > used pressurized oil to squirt the interface when the bucket was not > drilled. The bucket lifters sold years ago that did not have a hole in the > lifters had failure problems. A hole was added but the problem with the > drilled hole in the bucket it could clog and there was little to no > lubrication of the cam lobes, thus major wear. > > I?m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused by a plugged hole > in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it is a possibility. > > Perry > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Wayne Schultz > *Sent: *Monday, April 27, 2020 4:49 PM > *To: *healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject: *[Healeys] Oil Additives > > > > Hello everyone, I recently completed a rebuild of the engine in my Healey > 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my oil > pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined up > with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good oil > pressure and a very quiet motor. I pulled the motor and upon teardown I > found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting. I > thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion I, rather than the > oil might be the reason for the cam failure. I drove my car every couple > of weeks in nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the > cam and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started > the engine the cam and lifters might have been metal on metal. My new > lifters are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to lubricate the cam > lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue Apr 28 15:16:23 2020 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:16:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives In-Reply-To: References: <20200428015326.A1BD8A0FE7@autox.team.net> <1282840332.1373284.1588050332566@mail.yahoo.com> <492926649.65584884.1588072911972.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: Well here is one for you guys to chew on. https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2002012682A1/en My buddy who races a very competitive Mini uses silicon nitride lifters. I know that others have not had good experience but his engines have been overheated, run out of oil, regularly run to over 9000 RPM and he has yet to ruin 1 lifter or wear out 1 cam... Would love to figure out a way to have them made for Healeys. M On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:41 PM Michael Oritt wrote: > I agree with Bob and think this is a perfect example of what happens to > flat tappet cams without adequate zddp levels. > In 2007 before the effects of lower zddp levels in oil were well known I > lost a brand new race cam in my MGA-powered Courier in one weekend. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 7:31 AM Tom Felts wrote: > >> Val VR1 20/50 racing oil--"High Zinc". Been using in it my Healey and >> XKE for a long time. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Michael MacLean >> To: Wayne Schultz , healeys at autox.team.net, Perry < >> healeyguy at aol.com> >> Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:05:32 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives >> >> You can get "Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50" for Harley Davidson type motorcycles >> in a pinch. It contains the ZDDP required for our cars. If you want >> conventional oil I have used Kendall GT-1 Competition 20W-50 in my Healeys >> and MGB for years. All the ZDDP you need plus other additives to protect >> your followers and camshaft at shutdown. You can get the Kendall oil at >> Pacific Northwest or Amazon or directly from Kendall. Search around the >> internet for the best price. You can find it for half the price of the >> Mobil 1 V-Twin synthetic oil. >> >> British Parts Northwest Kendall GT-1 High Performance 20W-50 Oil >> >> >> British Parts Northwest Kendall GT-1 High Performance 20W-50 Oil >> >> The correct motor oil is getting harder and hard to find for your Classic >> British car. Don't believe that the o... >> >> Mike MacLean >> >> >> >> On Monday, April 27, 2020, 6:53:28 PM PDT, Perry via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Listers / Wayne >> >> I was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in the original >> configuration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way off. >> >> It would seem most of the lubrication comes from the steady drip that >> comes out at the rocker and runs down the pushrod. First the tappets >> (lifters) get some oil, then passes by the lifter and then on to the cam >> lobe. >> >> The oil dripping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the >> head and drops through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some >> worn out engines this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil >> fog that is in the crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due >> to the squirt of oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was >> to oil down the piston bores but coats pretty much everything. >> >> The bucket lifters, which by the way was an old hot rod trick from the >> early days of Austin Healeys, using lighter weight lifters out of a >> straight eight Oldsmobile (if I remember correctly) and longer pushrods may >> or may not be drilled to allow oil to the cam lobe/lifter face. Some guys >> used pressurized oil to squirt the interface when the bucket was not >> drilled. The bucket lifters sold years ago that did not have a hole in the >> lifters had failure problems. A hole was added but the problem with the >> drilled hole in the bucket it could clog and there was little to no >> lubrication of the cam lobes, thus major wear. >> >> I?m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused by a plugged hole >> in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it is a possibility. >> >> Perry >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows 10 >> >> >> >> *From: *Wayne Schultz >> *Sent: *Monday, April 27, 2020 4:49 PM >> *To: *healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject: *[Healeys] Oil Additives >> >> >> >> Hello everyone, I recently completed a rebuild of the engine in my Healey >> 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my oil >> pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined up >> with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good oil >> pressure and a very quiet motor. I pulled the motor and upon teardown I >> found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting. I >> thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion I, rather than the >> oil might be the reason for the cam failure. I drove my car every couple >> of weeks in nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the >> cam and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started >> the engine the cam and lifters might have been metal on metal. My new >> lifters are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to lubricate the cam >> lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Tue Apr 28 20:43:03 2020 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:43:03 +1200 Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension In-Reply-To: <004f01d61d83$8b0ee9e0$a12cbda0$@gmail.com> References: <001401d61c82$c620e8a0$5262b9e0$@xtra.co.nz> <004f01d61d83$8b0ee9e0$a12cbda0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000501d61dcf$e97d5830$bc780890$@xtra.co.nz> Al, I can?t comment on the Denis Welch pedals but the Paddy Hopkirk one, made originally for Minis back in the sixties, looks like this and is an easy and secure fit. I suspect you?d have to shorten the screws so they wouldn?t hit the firewall on full pedal depression. From memory mine were much shorter. It is still available from several suppliers on the net. Mark From: alfuller194 at gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2020 5:36 a.m. To: 'Mark Donaldson' ; 'Bruce Steele' ; 'healeylist' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Hi Bruce ? maybe you can share with us how you did this: [1] Do the pedal pads mount to the stock pedal arms, or require modification? I was also going to ask for the source, but they appear to say ?DWR? on them, so maybe I already know ?; [2] A while back you shared the look of your sisal mats. That pic shows that you refined your dead pedal from the prior aluminum box to something better ? how does the dead pedal work? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:58 AM To: 'Bruce Steele' >; 'healeylist' > Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Bruce, In your second photo I see what appears to be a Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension. I had one on my 1961 Austin-Cooper many years ago. Being bigger than the stock accelerator size, does it improve things ? like heel and toeing? I assume it fits neatly over the pedal as it appears, from memory, to be the same size as in the Mini Cooper. Cheers Mark Ardmore NZ -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Steele > Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 2:40 a.m. To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com ; 'healeylist' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights Interesting way to flood the dash. When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells. Two projects for me: 1. I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps. Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel. Hint: It is Healey related. 2. I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [ mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PM To: healey list < healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Lights So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image006.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163710 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes, once the grip tape started coming off the aluminum box I built, I decided to fabricate a new dead pedal to match the other DWR pedals. It?s a flat plate, 1/8? I believe, large enough to fit under the dip switch mount with about 6? of angle iron welded perpendicular to it at the top right (inboard) corner. A piece of, as I recall, 1? x ?? flat bar forms the down arm, attached with a ?? spacer to the angle iron by a nylock. This allows me to tow up the pedal to access the dip switch. I recall that I had to do a fair amount of grinding to relieve the arm to fit the pedal. I ground the lower corner of the flat bar until I got a satisfactory angle and position of the pedal. I never did a plan; I just started building up the idea and did a lot of trial and error fitting. I can crawl under there and take some rough measurements, if you?d like. And it?s always fun at shows watching people trying to figure out what the 4th pedal is for! BTW, with the COVID-19 fallout, my nephew?s start date at Ford has been pushed back to September. He?s going to summer in Des Moines with his parents once he graduates next month. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com [mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:36 AM To: 'Mark Donaldson' ; 'Bruce Steele' ; 'healeylist' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Hi Bruce ? maybe you can share with us how you did this: [1] Do the pedal pads mount to the stock pedal arms, or require modification? I was also going to ask for the source, but they appear to say ?DWR? on them, so maybe I already know ?; [2] A while back you shared the look of your sisal mats. That pic shows that you refined your dead pedal from the prior aluminum box to something better ? how does the dead pedal work? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:58 AM To: 'Bruce Steele' >; 'healeylist' > Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Bruce, In your second photo I see what appears to be a Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension. I had one on my 1961 Austin-Cooper many years ago. Being bigger than the stock accelerator size, does it improve things ? like heel and toeing? I assume it fits neatly over the pedal as it appears, from memory, to be the same size as in the Mini Cooper. Cheers Mark Ardmore NZ -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Steele > Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 2:40 a.m. To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com ; 'healeylist' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights Interesting way to flood the dash. When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells. Two projects for me: 1. I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps. Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel. Hint: It is Healey related. 2. I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [ mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PM To: healey list < healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Lights So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163710 bytes Desc: not available URL: From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Wed Apr 29 00:00:43 2020 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Bruce Steele) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:00:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension In-Reply-To: <1039349993.87167483.1588097248326.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> References: <001401d61c82$c620e8a0$5262b9e0$@xtra.co.nz> <004f01d61d83$8b0ee9e0$a12cbda0$@gmail.com> <1039349993.87167483.1588097248326.JavaMail.zimbra@mailid.telus.net> Message-ID: <21bb01d61deb$8723d1c0$956b7540$@roadrunner.com> That?s a great idea to get more spacing. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: Roger Grace [mailto:roggrace at telus.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 11:07 AM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com Cc: 'Mark Donaldson' ; 'Bruce Steele' ; 'healeylist' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension I also bought a set from DW. However didn't use their gas pedal or his dip switch idea. Found the DW gas pedal too big. What I did do was to mount the clutch pedal not central to the lever but on the LHS. Made some tight fitting spacers with longer bolts. This gives an additional 1/2 in pedal separation. rg ----- Original Message ----- From: alfuller194 at gmail.com To: 'Mark Donaldson' >, 'Bruce Steele' >, 'healeylist' > Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:36:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji"; panose-1:2 11 5 2 4 2 4 2 2 3;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:#0563C1; text-decoration:underline;} p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText, div.MsoPlainText {mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Plain Text Char"; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif; color:#0033CC;} span.PlainTextChar {mso-style-name:"Plain Text Char"; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Plain Text"; font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif; color:#0033CC;} span.EmailStyle22 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:windowtext;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --> Hi Bruce ? maybe you can share with us how you did this: [1] Do the pedal pads mount to the stock pedal arms, or require modification? I was also going to ask for the source, but they appear to say ?DWR? on them, so maybe I already know ?; [2] A while back you shared the look of your sisal mats. That pic shows that you refined your dead pedal from the prior aluminum box to something better ? how does the dead pedal work? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:58 AM To: 'Bruce Steele' >; 'healeylist' > Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Bruce, In your second photo I see what appears to be a Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension. I had one on my 1961 Austin-Cooper many years ago. Being bigger than the stock accelerator size, does it improve things ? like heel and toeing? I assume it fits neatly over the pedal as it appears, from memory, to be the same size as in the Mini Cooper. Cheers Mark Ardmore NZ -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Steele > Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 2:40 a.m. To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com ; 'healeylist' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights Interesting way to flood the dash. When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells. Two projects for me: 1. I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps. Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel. Hint: It is Healey related. 2. I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [ mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PM To: healey list < healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Lights So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paull at glasgows.co.uk Wed Apr 29 06:08:44 2020 From: paull at glasgows.co.uk (Paul Leeks) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:08:44 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel tank issue Message-ID: Hi all I hope someone can help me with a problem I have with fitting a new fuel tank from AH Spares on my 100/6 BN4. On attempting installation, I have found that the fuel pipe on the car doesn't line up with the boss on the fuel tank (and there is no flexibility in the outlet pipe as it does an immediate right angle on the other side of the boot wall). I had assumed the replacement tank would be an exact match for the original but, as you can see from the pictures attached, with the tank dead centre in the boot and as tight to the rear wall as possible, the boss is too far back and off to the left; meaning I cannot get it attached. At a push I could set the tank off-centre, but I would still be about 2cm too short. I have attached some pics to show what I mean. AH Spares tells me to buy a new fuel pipe kit from them, but also tells that the pipe is of a fixed length and the bend I need to get it on to reach the tank boss (as it is at the moment) is a little extreme and will probably kink it. As always, any advice would be gratefully received. Many thanks Paul Leeks 100/6 BN4 -- EMAIL DISCLAIMER Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Glasgows. It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain privileged and/or confidential information. 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M On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 8:12 AM Paul Leeks, wrote: > Hi all > > I hope someone can help me with a problem I have with fitting a new fuel > tank from AH Spares on my 100/6 BN4. > > On attempting installation, I have found that the fuel pipe on the car > doesn't line up with the boss on the fuel tank (and there is no > flexibility in the outlet pipe as it does an immediate right angle on the > other side of the boot wall). > > I had assumed the replacement tank would be an exact match for the > original but, as you can see from the pictures attached, with the tank dead > centre in the boot and as tight to the rear wall as possible, the boss is > too far back and off to the left; meaning I cannot get it attached. At a > push I could set the tank off-centre, but I would still be about 2cm too > short. > > I have attached some pics to show what I mean. > > AH Spares tells me to buy a new fuel pipe kit from them, but also tells > that the pipe is of a fixed length and the bend I need to get it on to > reach the tank boss (as it is at the moment) is a little extreme and will > probably kink it. > > As always, any advice would be gratefully received. > > Many thanks > > Paul Leeks > 100/6 BN4 > > > EMAIL DISCLAIMER > Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not > necessarily those of Glasgows. It is intended only for the person(s) to > whom it is addressed and may contain privileged and/or confidential > information. Accordingly, the copying, dissemination, distribution or use > of this message to any other person may constitute a breach of civil or > criminal law. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received > this email by mistake and delete it from your system. Glasgows Limited is > registered in England & Wales No. 2257022 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Wed Apr 29 07:26:31 2020 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:26:31 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Factory body/ frame primer Message-ID: Hello all. I have noticed my BN2 has black factory primer (possible single stage paint that body color was painted over when assembled- much like eletro coat primer that repo parts have on them). All later cars (BN4 on) that I have had experience with had red oxide primer used from the factory. Does anyone know was there a switch point? Were all 100's primered black? Were all cars eletro coated, and later cars primed with red oxide additionally? Was elctro coating even a thing back then? Just curious. TY. Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From warthodson at aol.com Wed Apr 29 07:51:16 2020 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Fuel tank issue References: <523094923.2146619.1588168276404.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <523094923.2146619.1588168276404@mail.yahoo.com> Pic. 3 appears to show a cast 90 degree elbow connected to the fuel line. How is the elbow connected to the short fitting that passes thru the bulkhead? Is it threaded or soldered? You could consider locating a new hole in the bulkhead that aligns with the tank fitting. To solve the length problem, you could add a fitting to the tank that threads in to the tank & has the same size fitting on the other end so that it is a short extension that will reach the fuel line fitting.Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Paul Leeks To: Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 7:14 am Subject: [Healeys] Fuel tank issue Hi all I hope someone can help me with a problem I have with fitting a new fuel tank from AH Spares on my 100/6 BN4. On attempting installation, I have found that the fuel pipe on the car doesn't line up with the boss on the fuel tank (and there is no flexibility?in the outlet pipe as it does an immediate right angle on the other side of the boot wall). I had assumed the replacement tank would be an exact match for the original but, as you can see from the pictures attached, with the tank dead centre in the boot and as tight to the rear wall as possible, the boss is too far back and off to the left; meaning I cannot get it attached.? At a push I could set the tank off-centre, but I would still be about 2cm too short. I have attached some pics to show what I mean.?? AH Spares tells me to buy a new fuel pipe kit from them, but also tells that the pipe is of a fixed length and the bend I need to get it on to reach the tank boss (as it is at the moment) is a little extreme and will probably kink it. As always, any advice would be gratefully received. Many thanks Paul Leeks100/6 BN4 EMAIL DISCLAIMER Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Glasgows. It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain privileged and/or confidential information. Accordingly, the copying, dissemination, distribution or use of this message to any other person may constitute a breach of civil or criminal law. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this email by mistake and delete it from your system. Glasgows Limited is registered in England & Wales No. 2257022_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From warthodson at aol.com Wed Apr 29 07:57:51 2020 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Fuel tank issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2108764714.2154476.1588168671299@mail.yahoo.com> Michael,You are correct. Unfortunately, most customers never even report the problem, so the manufacturer & vendor do not know the part does not fit. If thy do get a few complaints, they dismiss it because the majority of the sales of that item appear to have had no issues.Gary Hodson? -----Original Message----- From: Michael Salter To: Paul Leeks Cc: Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 7:53 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel tank issue Paul what are encountering is, sadly,? frequently encountered with reproduction parts. You can be assured that the manufacturer has no access to a car in which to check the product nor, in all probability does the vendor.?You can also be assured that they both are well aware of the problem but probably have considerable inventory of this defective product and will continue to push it out to unsuspecting customers until they are all sold. IMHO what you should do is contact the vendor and demand a full refund including the cost of shipping it back.?Unfortunately too many people just figure out a work around and the suppliers continue to get away?with it.?M On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 8:12 AM Paul Leeks, wrote: Hi all I hope someone can help me with a problem I have with fitting a new fuel tank from AH Spares on my 100/6 BN4. On attempting installation, I have found that the fuel pipe on the car doesn't line up with the boss on the fuel tank (and there is no flexibility?in the outlet pipe as it does an immediate right angle on the other side of the boot wall). I had assumed the replacement tank would be an exact match for the original but, as you can see from the pictures attached, with the tank dead centre in the boot and as tight to the rear wall as possible, the boss is too far back and off to the left; meaning I cannot get it attached.? At a push I could set the tank off-centre, but I would still be about 2cm too short. I have attached some pics to show what I mean.?? AH Spares tells me to buy a new fuel pipe kit from them, but also tells that the pipe is of a fixed length and the bend I need to get it on to reach the tank boss (as it is at the moment) is a little extreme and will probably kink it. As always, any advice would be gratefully received. Many thanks Paul Leeks100/6 BN4 EMAIL DISCLAIMER Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Glasgows. It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain privileged and/or confidential information. Accordingly, the copying, dissemination, distribution or use of this message to any other person may constitute a breach of civil or criminal law. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this email by mistake and delete it from your system. 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URL: From healey100m at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 08:26:21 2020 From: healey100m at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:26:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Factory body/ frame primer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shawn, my BN2 100M had both reddish brown and black primer. Seemed to vary. The door hinges were painted on the car and there is black primer when hinges removed. See photo; Black also appears a couple other places but the majority of the chassis is primed in reddish brown. BTW, it was a 33,000 mile car with original paint and never apart before. Randy > On Apr 29, 2020, at 9:26 AM, S and T Miller wrote: > > Hello all. I have noticed my BN2 has black factory primer (possible single stage paint that body color was painted over when assembled- much like eletro coat primer that repo parts have on them). All later cars (BN4 on) that I have had experience with had red oxide primer used from the factory. Does anyone know was there a switch point? Were all 100's primered black? Were all cars eletro coated, and later cars primed with red oxide additionally? Was elctro coating even a thing back then? Just curious. > TY. Shawn > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." > _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0170.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 118969 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0143.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 120554 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Wed Apr 29 08:36:29 2020 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:36:29 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Factory body/ frame primer In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Thank you Randy. Interesting. My door hinge area looks the same. I'll have to look in some more areas to see. The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." ________________________________ From: Randy Hicks Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 10:26 AM To: S and T Miller Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Factory body/ frame primer Shawn, my BN2 100M had both reddish brown and black primer. Seemed to vary. The door hinges were painted on the car and there is black primer when hinges removed. See photo; Black also appears a couple other places but the majority of the chassis is primed in reddish brown. BTW, it was a 33,000 mile car with original paint and never apart before. Randy [cid:760385CA-216C-4456-924B-AFC5187F86A1 at hsd1.ga.comcast.net.] [cid:D0DD58AC-0C1B-4724-B250-B8C3825AFED0 at hsd1.ga.comcast.net.] On Apr 29, 2020, at 9:26 AM, S and T Miller > wrote: Hello all. I have noticed my BN2 has black factory primer (possible single stage paint that body color was painted over when assembled- much like eletro coat primer that repo parts have on them). All later cars (BN4 on) that I have had experience with had red oxide primer used from the factory. Does anyone know was there a switch point? Were all 100's primered black? Were all cars eletro coated, and later cars primed with red oxide additionally? Was elctro coating even a thing back then? Just curious. TY. Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0170.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 118969 bytes Desc: IMG_0170.jpeg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Elton, BJ7 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:13 AM Paul Leeks wrote: > Hi all > > I hope someone can help me with a problem I have with fitting a new fuel > tank from AH Spares on my 100/6 BN4. > > On attempting installation, I have found that the fuel pipe on the car > doesn't line up with the boss on the fuel tank (and there is no > flexibility in the outlet pipe as it does an immediate right angle on the > other side of the boot wall). > > I had assumed the replacement tank would be an exact match for the > original but, as you can see from the pictures attached, with the tank dead > centre in the boot and as tight to the rear wall as possible, the boss is > too far back and off to the left; meaning I cannot get it attached. At a > push I could set the tank off-centre, but I would still be about 2cm too > short. > > I have attached some pics to show what I mean. > > AH Spares tells me to buy a new fuel pipe kit from them, but also tells > that the pipe is of a fixed length and the bend I need to get it on to > reach the tank boss (as it is at the moment) is a little extreme and will > probably kink it. > > As always, any advice would be gratefully received. > > Many thanks > > Paul Leeks > 100/6 BN4 > > > EMAIL DISCLAIMER > Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not > necessarily those of Glasgows. It is intended only for the person(s) to > whom it is addressed and may contain privileged and/or confidential > information. Accordingly, the copying, dissemination, distribution or use > of this message to any other person may constitute a breach of civil or > criminal law. 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The door hinges were painted on the car and there is black primer > when hinges removed. See photo; Black also appears a couple other places > but the majority of the chassis is primed in reddish brown. > > BTW, it was a 33,000 mile car with original paint and never apart before. > > Randy > > > > > On Apr 29, 2020, at 9:26 AM, S and T Miller > wrote: > > Hello all. I have noticed my BN2 has black factory primer (possible single > stage paint that body color was painted over when assembled- much like > eletro coat primer that repo parts have on them). All later cars (BN4 on) > that I have had experience with had red oxide primer used from the > factory. Does anyone know was there a switch point? Were all 100's > primered black? Were all cars eletro coated, and later cars primed with red > oxide additionally? Was elctro coating even a thing back then? Just curious. > TY. Shawn > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > _______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0170.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 118969 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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All later > cars (BN4 on) that I have had experience with had red oxide primer > used from the factory. Does anyone know was there a switch point? Were > all 100's primered black? Were all cars eletro coated, and later cars > primed with red oxide additionally? Was elctro coating even a thing > back then? Just curious. > TY. Shawn > > The Millers > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a > test drive." > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100-0018_IMG.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 359269 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tld6008 at mchsi.com Wed Apr 29 09:23:48 2020 From: tld6008 at mchsi.com (Tim Davis BN7) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Tank Issue Message-ID: <1433913769.22849970.1588173828508.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com> I would send it back. I have purchased 2 new tanks from Moss motors over the last couple of years and they have fit (lined up) perfectly. 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On attempting installation, I have found that the fuel pipe on the car doesn't line up with the boss on the fuel tank (and there is no flexibility in the outlet pipe as it does an immediate right angle on the other side of the boot wall). I had assumed the replacement tank would be an exact match for the original but, as you can see from the pictures attached, with the tank dead centre in the boot and as tight to the rear wall as possible, the boss is too far back and off to the left; meaning I cannot get it attached. At a push I could set the tank off-centre, but I would still be about 2cm too short. I have attached some pics to show what I mean. AH Spares tells me to buy a new fuel pipe kit from them, but also tells that the pipe is of a fixed length and the bend I need to get it on to reach the tank boss (as it is at the moment) is a little extreme and will probably kink it. As always, any advice would be gratefully received. Many thanks Paul Leeks 100/6 BN4 EMAIL DISCLAIMER Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Glasgows It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain privileged and/or confidential information. Accordingly, the copying, dissemination, distribution or use of this message to any other person may constitute a breach of civil or criminal law. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this email by mistake and delete it from your system. 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Supplement 11 shows many examples of this and describes how and where it was applied. The coating could have been an Undercoating Material or one used for sound deadening, and it is hard to tell 40 years after the fact, but it definitely was applied over the sheet metal primer. > On Apr 29, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > This may or may not be relevant, but some BN2/100M chassis and frames were known to have been painted black from the scuttle (firewall) forward. I believe ours was but, unfortunately I didn't know this bit of trivia before ours was painted all white and reassembled. > > Bob > > On 4/29/2020 6:26 AM, S and T Miller wrote: >> Hello all. I have noticed my BN2 has black factory primer (possible single stage paint that body color was painted over when assembled- much like eletro coat primer that repo parts have on them). All later cars (BN4 on) that I have had experience with had red oxide primer used from the factory. Does anyone know was there a switch point? Were all 100's primered black? Were all cars eletro coated, and later cars primed with red oxide additionally? Was elctro coating even a thing back then? Just curious. >> TY. Shawn >> >> The Millers >> >> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." >> > > _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100-0018_IMG.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 359269 bytes Desc: not available URL: From healeydoc at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 09:55:36 2020 From: healeydoc at gmail.com (David Nock) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:55:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Tank Issue In-Reply-To: <1433913769.22849970.1588173828508.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com> References: <1433913769.22849970.1588173828508.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <99CBC927C3154CD593957F555D198E3A@DavidNockHP> That is not the problem here. He has the wrong tank for the car. His is most likley a Longbridge BN4 and they have a different fuel pick up pipe. And the correct tank for his car is not available. David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net 209 948 8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites by visiting the site at. www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org From: Tim Davis BN7 Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:23 AM To: healeys at Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Tank Issue I would send it back. I have purchased 2 new tanks from Moss motors over the last couple of years and they have fit (lined up) perfectly. 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So that red oxide may have made its way in the boot, and hood areas, and probably others. I wonder if anyone has a later car, that shows the hinge panel with the hinges removed, and if that black is there or the red oxide. Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." ________________________________ From: Michael Salter Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:06 AM To: S and T Miller Cc: Randy Hicks ; Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Factory body/ frame primer It would appear to me that the individual components (weldments as they are called) were primed in the black then the red was applied after the panels were fitted. Does that fit with the coverage you have noticed? M On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 10:58 AM S and T Miller, > wrote: Thank you Randy. Interesting. My door hinge area looks the same. I'll have to look in some more areas to see. The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." ________________________________ From: Randy Hicks > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 10:26 AM To: S and T Miller > Cc: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Factory body/ frame primer Shawn, my BN2 100M had both reddish brown and black primer. Seemed to vary. The door hinges were painted on the car and there is black primer when hinges removed. See photo; Black also appears a couple other places but the majority of the chassis is primed in reddish brown. BTW, it was a 33,000 mile car with original paint and never apart before. Randy [cid:d53b0b88-cc8c-44b4-8608-13ad8e1ee5f5] [cid:aacb66eb-a85f-4cca-ad30-92d8d8b2b46a] On Apr 29, 2020, at 9:26 AM, S and T Miller > wrote: Hello all. I have noticed my BN2 has black factory primer (possible single stage paint that body color was painted over when assembled- much like eletro coat primer that repo parts have on them). All later cars (BN4 on) that I have had experience with had red oxide primer used from the factory. Does anyone know was there a switch point? Were all 100's primered black? Were all cars eletro coated, and later cars primed with red oxide additionally? Was elctro coating even a thing back then? Just curious. TY. Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Electrostatic spray painting was an immediate success as manufacturers quickly perceived the substantial materials savings that could be achieved. With the addition of manufacturing and research operations in Europe and Japan, Ransburg expanded on a global level over the next 20 years. The steady growth was complemented by an increasing reputation for innovative and effective technology. Electrostatic coating is a manufacturing process that employs charged particles to more efficiently paint a workpiece. Paint, in the form of either powdered particles or atomized liquid, is initially projected towards a conductive workpiece using normal spraying methods, and is then accelerated toward the workpiece by a powerful electrostatic charge. After the charging is finished, and the setup is done, the painting can take place. The paint with a positive charge is sprayed onto the metal object and grabs on easily to the metal?s surface. The attraction from the opposing charges is so strong that even if just one side of a metal pole is sprayed, the charge will automatically draw the paint around the metal, covering its entire surface. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: S and T Miller Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:27 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Factory body/ frame primer Hello all. I have noticed my BN2 has black factory primer (possible single stage paint that body color was painted over when assembled- much like eletro coat primer that repo parts have on them). All later cars (BN4 on) that I have had experience with had red oxide primer used from the factory.? Does anyone know was there a switch point? Were all 100's primered black? Were all cars eletro coated, and later cars primed with red oxide additionally? Was elctro coating even a thing back then? Just curious. TY. Shawn The Millers ? "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Wed Apr 29 10:24:29 2020 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:24:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Factory body/ frame primer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Electrostatic Painting. Wasn?t quite sure when it became a normal process but there was a bit on the net to explain it. My take on its use on Austin Healeys is that it wasn?t used. If it had been used the amount and location of rust on our cars would not be same as what we experience. Perry Reference below: The first U.S. patent for the electrostatic painting process was awarded to Harold Ransburg in the late 1940?s. Electrostatic spray painting was an immediate success as manufacturers quickly perceived the substantial materials savings that could be achieved. With the addition of manufacturing and research operations in Europe and Japan, Ransburg expanded on a global level over the next 20 years. The steady growth was complemented by an increasing reputation for innovative and effective technology. Electrostatic coating is a manufacturing process that employs charged particles to more efficiently paint a workpiece. Paint, in the form of either powdered particles or atomized liquid, is initially projected towards a conductive workpiece using normal spraying methods, and is then accelerated toward the workpiece by a powerful electrostatic charge. After the charging is finished, and the setup is done, the painting can take place. The paint with a positive charge is sprayed onto the metal object and grabs on easily to the metal?s surface. The attraction from the opposing charges is so strong that even if just one side of a metal pole is sprayed, the charge will automatically draw the paint around the metal, covering its entire surface. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: S and T Miller Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:27 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Factory body/ frame primer Hello all. I have noticed my BN2 has black factory primer (possible single stage paint that body color was painted over when assembled- much like eletro coat primer that repo parts have on them). All later cars (BN4 on) that I have had experience with had red oxide primer used from the factory.? Does anyone know was there a switch point? Were all 100's primered black? Were all cars eletro coated, and later cars primed with red oxide additionally? Was elctro coating even a thing back then? Just curious. TY. Shawn The Millers ? "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Wed Apr 29 11:11:54 2020 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:11:54 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Factory body/ frame primer In-Reply-To: <4269168f-f966-43c4-b641-4eb130c283ba@DM6NAM10FT050.eop-nam10.prod.protection.outlook.com> References: , <4269168f-f966-43c4-b641-4eb130c283ba@DM6NAM10FT050.eop-nam10.prod.protection.outlook.com> Message-ID: Great info, TY The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." ________________________________ From: Perry Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 12:24 PM To: S and T Miller Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Factory body/ frame primer Electrostatic Painting. Wasn?t quite sure when it became a normal process but there was a bit on the net to explain it. My take on its use on Austin Healeys is that it wasn?t used. If it had been used the amount and location of rust on our cars would not be same as what we experience. Perry Reference below: The first U.S. patent for the electrostatic painting process was awarded to Harold Ransburg in the late 1940?s. Electrostatic spray painting was an immediate success as manufacturers quickly perceived the substantial materials savings that could be achieved. With the addition of manufacturing and research operations in Europe and Japan, Ransburg expanded on a global level over the next 20 years. The steady growth was complemented by an increasing reputation for innovative and effective technology. Electrostatic coating is a manufacturing process that employs charged particles to more efficiently paint a workpiece. Paint, in the form of either powdered particles or atomized liquid, is initially projected towards a conductive workpiece using normal spraying methods, and is then accelerated toward the workpiece by a powerful electrostatic charge. After the charging is finished, and the setup is done, the painting can take place. The paint with a positive charge is sprayed onto the metal object and grabs on easily to the metal?s surface. The attraction from the opposing charges is so strong that even if just one side of a metal pole is sprayed, the charge will automatically draw the paint around the metal, covering its entire surface. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: S and T Miller Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:27 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Factory body/ frame primer Hello all. I have noticed my BN2 has black factory primer (possible single stage paint that body color was painted over when assembled- much like eletro coat primer that repo parts have on them). All later cars (BN4 on) that I have had experience with had red oxide primer used from the factory. Does anyone know was there a switch point? Were all 100's primered black? Were all cars eletro coated, and later cars primed with red oxide additionally? Was elctro coating even a thing back then? Just curious. TY. Shawn The Millers "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjcap at optonline.net Wed Apr 29 14:08:08 2020 From: bjcap at optonline.net (phillips) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] RE factory body primer Message-ID: <2058380260.90827.1588190888562@mymail.optimum.net> On all the BJ8s Ive done ( someone asked about the later cars ) they were all factory primed black inside and out , body panels fitted and then the red oxide primer applied prior to final topcoat of paint. Wheel wells were black with top coat no red , underneath shrouds, boot and bonnet underneath , and I believe the entire underneath was top coat over black , no red oxide over black. Carroll Phillips -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Wed Apr 29 20:17:42 2020 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:17:42 +1200 Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension In-Reply-To: <21a701d61deb$739a7230$5acf5690$@roadrunner.com> References: <001401d61c82$c620e8a0$5262b9e0$@xtra.co.nz> <004f01d61d83$8b0ee9e0$a12cbda0$@gmail.com> <21a701d61deb$739a7230$5acf5690$@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <000601d61e95$89572b40$9c0581c0$@xtra.co.nz> Bruce, Your 4th pedal observation reminds me of a wonderful line from one of Victor Borge?s wonderful piano routines . . . he sits at the piano, looks down and sees three pedals. He turns to the audience and says ?Who do they think I am?? ? Mark Ardmore, NZ From: Bruce Steele Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2020 6:00 p.m. To: alfuller194 at gmail.com; 'Mark Donaldson' ; 'healeylist' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Hi, Al. I hope you?re well. The DWR pedals mount to the standard holes in the arms once the stock pedals are removed. However, as I recall the gap between the ears or tabs on the DWR pedals was not large enough and required some filing to widen. Yes, once the grip tape started coming off the aluminum box I built, I decided to fabricate a new dead pedal to match the other DWR pedals. It?s a flat plate, 1/8? I believe, large enough to fit under the dip switch mount with about 6? of angle iron welded perpendicular to it at the top right (inboard) corner. A piece of, as I recall, 1? x ?? flat bar forms the down arm, attached with a ?? spacer to the angle iron by a nylock. This allows me to tow up the pedal to access the dip switch. I recall that I had to do a fair amount of grinding to relieve the arm to fit the pedal. I ground the lower corner of the flat bar until I got a satisfactory angle and position of the pedal. I never did a plan; I just started building up the idea and did a lot of trial and error fitting. I can crawl under there and take some rough measurements, if you?d like. And it?s always fun at shows watching people trying to figure out what the 4th pedal is for! BTW, with the COVID-19 fallout, my nephew?s start date at Ford has been pushed back to September. He?s going to summer in Des Moines with his parents once he graduates next month. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com [mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:36 AM To: 'Mark Donaldson' >; 'Bruce Steele' >; 'healeylist' > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Hi Bruce ? maybe you can share with us how you did this: [1] Do the pedal pads mount to the stock pedal arms, or require modification? I was also going to ask for the source, but they appear to say ?DWR? on them, so maybe I already know ?; [2] A while back you shared the look of your sisal mats. That pic shows that you refined your dead pedal from the prior aluminum box to something better ? how does the dead pedal work? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:58 AM To: 'Bruce Steele' >; 'healeylist' > Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Bruce, In your second photo I see what appears to be a Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension. I had one on my 1961 Austin-Cooper many years ago. Being bigger than the stock accelerator size, does it improve things ? like heel and toeing? I assume it fits neatly over the pedal as it appears, from memory, to be the same size as in the Mini Cooper. Cheers Mark Ardmore NZ -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Steele > Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 2:40 a.m. To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com ; 'healeylist' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights Interesting way to flood the dash. When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells. Two projects for me: 1. I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps. Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel. Hint: It is Healey related. 2. I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [ mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PM To: healey list < healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Lights So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Should be hardened steel, machined. Kees Oudesluijs Op 30-4-2020 om 07:32 schreef Michael MacLean: > > > > > When I bought this head from my restorer friend that has passed, he > told me it was off a 100M.? A valve stem had bent on startup and the > valve, valve guide and the hole for the valve guide were damaged.? > When I was putting seals on the valves I noticed one of the valve > guides was larger in diameter than the rest.? This was the repaired > valve and guide.? Luckily it is an exhaust valve so a seal of the type > i am using did not need to be fit over it.? My question is, a lot of > the body parts were stamped with the chassis number on a 100M.? Did > they also number engine parts?? This head had been cracked in the past > and repaired correctly.? See the " X" welded into the top of the head > in the picture. > Mike MacLean > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paull at glasgows.co.uk Thu Apr 30 04:58:03 2020 From: paull at glasgows.co.uk (Paul Leeks) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:58:03 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Fuel tank issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for their help with this. David is, of course, absolutely correct. I do have an early Longbridge BN4 and the original pipe would have come through higher up and entered the tank vertically. So, it has obviously been 'modified' in the past! Therefore, it looks like the easiest thing to do would be to try either Bob's idea for a flexible braided stainless fuel line or Elton's ideas for a BSPP swivel. I'll let you know how I get on. Many thanks all Paul 100/6 BN4 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Paul Leeks Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 13:08 Subject: Fuel tank issue To: Hi all I hope someone can help me with a problem I have with fitting a new fuel tank from AH Spares on my 100/6 BN4. On attempting installation, I have found that the fuel pipe on the car doesn't line up with the boss on the fuel tank (and there is no flexibility in the outlet pipe as it does an immediate right angle on the other side of the boot wall). I had assumed the replacement tank would be an exact match for the original but, as you can see from the pictures attached, with the tank dead centre in the boot and as tight to the rear wall as possible, the boss is too far back and off to the left; meaning I cannot get it attached. At a push I could set the tank off-centre, but I would still be about 2cm too short. I have attached some pics to show what I mean. AH Spares tells me to buy a new fuel pipe kit from them, but also tells that the pipe is of a fixed length and the bend I need to get it on to reach the tank boss (as it is at the moment) is a little extreme and will probably kink it. As always, any advice would be gratefully received. Many thanks Paul Leeks 100/6 BN4 -- EMAIL DISCLAIMER Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Glasgows. It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain privileged and/or confidential information. 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URL: From airtightproductions at icloud.com Thu Apr 30 08:35:30 2020 From: airtightproductions at icloud.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:35:30 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer repair Message-ID: <27d18486-48ad-4fc6-91a5-752195b5aea2@me.com> Just my two cents, but first off, 67,000 is nothing. For cars as old as ours and for your car to only have 67,000 miles on it is something special. My 100, BN1 also only had about 67,000 miles from being sold in 1953, and I had all the receipts to show that these were the actual, as has been said "original" miles. So I would keep the 67,000. ???The car is yours to do with as you please though and if you want to set it to zero, set it to zero. But if you ever sell the car, please let the buyer know this information. It would be a non-issue in that case and also pass along the receipt showing you had the speedo zeroed out a 67,000 miles. ??? Steven Kingsbury ???rebuilding another BN1? On April 30, 2020 at 6:22 AM, "Robert Begani" wrote: I am sending my original speedo to Nisonger?s for repair.? Should I keep the same 67,000 miles or go to zero?? Comments. ? Bob Begani 67 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Apr 30 09:04:01 2020 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 08:04:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer repair In-Reply-To: <27d18486-48ad-4fc6-91a5-752195b5aea2@me.com> References: <27d18486-48ad-4fc6-91a5-752195b5aea2@me.com> Message-ID: I'd keep the original number; since you have it documented it adds some value to the car IMO.? I don't know if it applies in these instances*, but I think there is a state law against messing with odometers (used to be an old trick by shady used car dealers).? I think it might even be a felony. * For old cars, which have possibly had several speedo 'repairs' or replacements.? I took a long trip when my speedo was in the shop and used a backup speedo, so my BJ8 actually has 207K miles but the odo only shows 04000. On 4/30/2020 7:35 AM, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys wrote: > Just my two cents, but first off, 67,000 is nothing. For cars as old > as ours and for your car to only have 67,000 miles on it is something > special. My 100, BN1 also only had about 67,000 miles from being sold > in 1953, and I had all the receipts to show that these were the > actual, as has been said "original" miles. So I would keep the 67,000. > ???The car is yours to do with as you please though and if you want to > set it to zero, set it to zero. But if you ever sell the car, please > let the buyer know this information. It would be a non-issue in that > case and also pass along the receipt showing you had the speedo zeroed > out a 67,000 miles. > ??? Steven Kingsbury > ???rebuilding another BN1 > > On April 30, 2020 at 6:22 AM, "Robert Begani" wrote: > >> I am sending my original speedo to Nisonger?s for repair.? Should I >> keep the same 67,000 miles or go to zero?? Comments. >> >> Bob Begani >> >> 67 BJ8 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 30 09:05:38 2020 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock BCS) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 08:05:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Fuel tank issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Another option would be to cut a hole in the correct place for the fuel pipe to come thru the bulkhead. Then make a piece of metal with a hole for the pipe and grommet, then attach that to the bulkhead to cover it all up. Then replace the armacord and it will look correct. The other option that we have done is to remove the pick up from the original Longbridge tank and replace the one from the new tank with the old one. WE have done both options in the past. David Nock British Car Specialists 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com From: Paul Leeks Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 3:58 AM To: Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Fuel tank issue Thanks to everyone for their help with this. David is, of course, absolutely correct. I do have an early Longbridge BN4 and the original pipe would have come through higher up and entered the tank vertically. So, it has obviously been 'modified' in the past! Therefore, it looks like the easiest thing to do would be to try either Bob's idea for a flexible braided stainless fuel line or Elton's ideas for a BSPP swivel. I'll let you know how I get on. Many thanks all Paul 100/6 BN4 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Paul Leeks Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 13:08 Subject: Fuel tank issue To: Hi all I hope someone can help me with a problem I have with fitting a new fuel tank from AH Spares on my 100/6 BN4. On attempting installation, I have found that the fuel pipe on the car doesn't line up with the boss on the fuel tank (and there is no flexibility in the outlet pipe as it does an immediate right angle on the other side of the boot wall). I had assumed the replacement tank would be an exact match for the original but, as you can see from the pictures attached, with the tank dead centre in the boot and as tight to the rear wall as possible, the boss is too far back and off to the left; meaning I cannot get it attached. At a push I could set the tank off-centre, but I would still be about 2cm too short. I have attached some pics to show what I mean. AH Spares tells me to buy a new fuel pipe kit from them, but also tells that the pipe is of a fixed length and the bend I need to get it on to reach the tank boss (as it is at the moment) is a little extreme and will probably kink it. As always, any advice would be gratefully received. Many thanks Paul Leeks 100/6 BN4 EMAIL DISCLAIMER Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Glasgows It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain privileged and/or confidential information. 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URL: From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Thu Apr 30 09:46:44 2020 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (Mirek Sharp) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:46:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer repair In-Reply-To: <09bf01d61ef2$50c205e0$f24611a0$@gmail.com> References: <09bf01d61ef2$50c205e0$f24611a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003e01d61f06$8cf32c60$a6d98520$@sympatico.ca> Totally personal preference, but I would keep the original mileage as it reflects how much the car has been driven and it seems more honest. From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: April-30-20 9:22 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer repair I am sending my original speedo to Nisonger's for repair. Should I keep the same 67,000 miles or go to zero? Comments. Bob Begani 67 BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cardocgolden at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 10:48:48 2020 From: cardocgolden at gmail.com (Bruce Starke) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 10:48:48 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer repair In-Reply-To: <003e01d61f06$8cf32c60$a6d98520$@sympatico.ca> References: <09bf01d61ef2$50c205e0$f24611a0$@gmail.com> <003e01d61f06$8cf32c60$a6d98520$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: When I restored my BT7 Tricarb, the speedo had 100,xxx miles on it . I did have it reset to 0 miles when the speedo was rebuilt but now I think perhaps that I should have left it as is. The mileage would have been accurate ( as far as I know, I am not the original owner) and the post restoration distance easy to measure given the first 3 numbers Bruce Starke Golden BC On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:47 AM Mirek Sharp wrote: > Totally personal preference, but I would keep the original mileage as it > reflects how much the car has been driven and it seems more honest. > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Robert > Begani > *Sent:* April-30-20 9:22 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Speedometer repair > > > > I am sending my original speedo to Nisonger?s for repair. Should I keep > the same 67,000 miles or go to zero? 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URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 11:25:57 2020 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:25:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension In-Reply-To: <000501d61dcf$e97d5830$bc780890$@xtra.co.nz> References: <001401d61c82$c620e8a0$5262b9e0$@xtra.co.nz> <004f01d61d83$8b0ee9e0$a12cbda0$@gmail.com> <000501d61dcf$e97d5830$bc780890$@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: <005301d61f14$6a08d8e0$3e1a8aa0$@gmail.com> Good to know ? thanks! ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Mark Donaldson Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:43 PM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com; 'Bruce Steele' ; 'healeylist' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Al, I can?t comment on the Denis Welch pedals but the Paddy Hopkirk one, made originally for Minis back in the sixties, looks like this and is an easy and secure fit. I suspect you?d have to shorten the screws so they wouldn?t hit the firewall on full pedal depression. From memory mine were much shorter. It is still available from several suppliers on the net. Mark From: alfuller194 at gmail.com > Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2020 5:36 a.m. To: 'Mark Donaldson' >; 'Bruce Steele' >; 'healeylist' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Hi Bruce ? maybe you can share with us how you did this: [1] Do the pedal pads mount to the stock pedal arms, or require modification? I was also going to ask for the source, but they appear to say ?DWR? on them, so maybe I already know ?; [2] A while back you shared the look of your sisal mats. That pic shows that you refined your dead pedal from the prior aluminum box to something better ? how does the dead pedal work? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:58 AM To: 'Bruce Steele' >; 'healeylist' > Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Bruce, In your second photo I see what appears to be a Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension. I had one on my 1961 Austin-Cooper many years ago. Being bigger than the stock accelerator size, does it improve things ? like heel and toeing? I assume it fits neatly over the pedal as it appears, from memory, to be the same size as in the Mini Cooper. Cheers Mark Ardmore NZ -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Steele > Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 2:40 a.m. To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com ; 'healeylist' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights Interesting way to flood the dash. When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells. Two projects for me: 1. I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps. Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel. Hint: It is Healey related. 2. I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [ mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PM To: healey list < healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Lights So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I do recall seeing the picture of the sisal mats, and it taking me a while to realize there are four pedals. It?s a really nice looking setup! ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Bruce Steele Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:00 AM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com; 'Mark Donaldson' ; 'healeylist' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Hi, Al. I hope you?re well. The DWR pedals mount to the standard holes in the arms once the stock pedals are removed. However, as I recall the gap between the ears or tabs on the DWR pedals was not large enough and required some filing to widen. Yes, once the grip tape started coming off the aluminum box I built, I decided to fabricate a new dead pedal to match the other DWR pedals. It?s a flat plate, 1/8? I believe, large enough to fit under the dip switch mount with about 6? of angle iron welded perpendicular to it at the top right (inboard) corner. A piece of, as I recall, 1? x ?? flat bar forms the down arm, attached with a ?? spacer to the angle iron by a nylock. This allows me to tow up the pedal to access the dip switch. I recall that I had to do a fair amount of grinding to relieve the arm to fit the pedal. I ground the lower corner of the flat bar until I got a satisfactory angle and position of the pedal. I never did a plan; I just started building up the idea and did a lot of trial and error fitting. I can crawl under there and take some rough measurements, if you?d like. And it?s always fun at shows watching people trying to figure out what the 4th pedal is for! BTW, with the COVID-19 fallout, my nephew?s start date at Ford has been pushed back to September. He?s going to summer in Des Moines with his parents once he graduates next month. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com [mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:36 AM To: 'Mark Donaldson' >; 'Bruce Steele' >; 'healeylist' > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Hi Bruce ? maybe you can share with us how you did this: [1] Do the pedal pads mount to the stock pedal arms, or require modification? I was also going to ask for the source, but they appear to say ?DWR? on them, so maybe I already know ?; [2] A while back you shared the look of your sisal mats. That pic shows that you refined your dead pedal from the prior aluminum box to something better ? how does the dead pedal work? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:58 AM To: 'Bruce Steele' >; 'healeylist' > Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Bruce, In your second photo I see what appears to be a Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension. I had one on my 1961 Austin-Cooper many years ago. Being bigger than the stock accelerator size, does it improve things ? like heel and toeing? I assume it fits neatly over the pedal as it appears, from memory, to be the same size as in the Mini Cooper. Cheers Mark Ardmore NZ -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Steele > Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 2:40 a.m. To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com ; 'healeylist' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights Interesting way to flood the dash. When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells. Two projects for me: 1. I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps. Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel. Hint: It is Healey related. 2. I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [ mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PM To: healey list < healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Lights So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163710 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 11:38:16 2020 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 10:38:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Head In-Reply-To: <35b63ca7-c384-748f-bb8d-3a34c3673365@chello.nl> References: <1012348286.96570.1588224759544.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1012348286.96570.1588224759544@mail.yahoo.com> <35b63ca7-c384-748f-bb8d-3a34c3673365@chello.nl> Message-ID: Mike, No they did not number engine parts other than the engine number (easily removable aluminum tag) on the block should match the chassis number. Now the "M" distributors also had unique part numbers (there were two types) and of course the H-6 carburetors were also numbered, either AUC-6040 X or 6040 AA with of course the appropriate hand etched numbers 6047 and 6053 respectively. Also on a somewhat related subject, a recent thread stated that supposedly some "M" carburetors only had the number 6040 with no suffix. However, I doubt that assertion as I have never seen any originals numbered as such, and two other members of the Concours Committee (both 100M experts) that I've spoken to say that they have never seen Factory "M" carburetors with just a 6040 number. I'm 65 and these two members are 15 years older than me, with a lot more experience. Cheers, Curt > Op 30-4-2020 om 07:32 schreef Michael MacLean: > > > When I bought this head from my restorer friend that has passed, he told > me it was off a 100M. A valve stem had bent on startup and the valve, > valve guide and the hole for the valve guide were damaged. When I was > putting seals on the valves I noticed one of the valve guides was larger in > diameter than the rest. This was the repaired valve and guide. Luckily it > is an exhaust valve so a seal of the type i am using did not need to be fit > over it. My question is, a lot of the body parts were stamped with the > chassis number on a 100M. Did they also number engine parts? This head > had been cracked in the past and repaired correctly. See the " X" welded > into the top of the head in the picture. > Mike MacLean > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 13:05:09 2020 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:05:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer repair In-Reply-To: References: <09bf01d61ef2$50c205e0$f24611a0$@gmail.com> <003e01d61f06$8cf32c60$a6d98520$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: When I had my speedo rebuilt 0ver 40 years ago, I had it set to 000000. Now I wish I had either noted the original miles or left it alone. Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:49 AM Bruce Starke wrote: > When I restored my BT7 Tricarb, the speedo had 100,xxx miles on it . I > did have it reset to 0 miles when the speedo was rebuilt but now I think > perhaps that I should have left it as is. The mileage would have been > accurate ( as far as I know, I am not the original owner) and the post > restoration distance easy to measure given the first 3 numbers > > Bruce Starke > Golden BC > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:47 AM Mirek Sharp > wrote: > >> Totally personal preference, but I would keep the original mileage as it >> reflects how much the car has been driven and it seems more honest. >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Robert >> Begani >> *Sent:* April-30-20 9:22 AM >> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* [Healeys] Speedometer repair >> >> >> >> I am sending my original speedo to Nisonger?s for repair. Should I keep >> the same 67,000 miles or go to zero? Comments. >> >> >> >> Bob Begani >> >> 67 BJ8 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cardocgolden at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Apr 30 13:35:21 2020 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (Max Byers) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:35:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer repair In-Reply-To: References: <09bf01d61ef2$50c205e0$f24611a0$@gmail.com> <003e01d61f06$8cf32c60$a6d98520$@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <024a01d61f26$7d694e80$783beb80$@rr.com> When I bought my BJ8 in 1984, the odometer was not working. It read 51,788 miles. When I opened the unit I discovered a small spring and lever arm lying in the bottom of the case. After I determined where those came from and reinstalled them, the odo has worked perfectly ever since. Not knowing the mileage exactly, I had no problem zeroing it out. It now shows 123,834 miles. I?m a great believer in log books for cars for recording their history. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 3:05 PM To: Bruce Starke Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedometer repair When I had my speedo rebuilt 0ver 40 years ago, I had it set to 000000. Now I wish I had either noted the original miles or left it alone. Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB MG A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words Virus-free. www.avg.com On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:49 AM Bruce Starke wrote: When I restored my BT7 Tricarb, the speedo had 100,xxx miles on it . I did have it reset to 0 miles when the speedo was rebuilt but now I think perhaps that I should have left it as is. The mileage would have been accurate ( as far as I know, I am not the original owner) and the post restoration distance easy to measure given the first 3 numbers Bruce Starke Golden BC On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:47 AM Mirek Sharp wrote: Totally personal preference, but I would keep the original mileage as it reflects how much the car has been driven and it seems more honest. From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: April-30-20 9:22 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer repair I am sending my original speedo to Nisonger?s for repair. Should I keep the same 67,000 miles or go to zero? Comments. 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URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Thu Apr 30 13:46:26 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 19:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer repair In-Reply-To: <024a01d61f26$7d694e80$783beb80$@rr.com> References: <09bf01d61ef2$50c205e0$f24611a0$@gmail.com> <003e01d61f06$8cf32c60$a6d98520$@sympatico.ca> <024a01d61f26$7d694e80$783beb80$@rr.com> Message-ID: <793887067.23411.1588275986067@mail.yahoo.com> For my BN2 rebuild all I started with was a bare shell with some suspension.? All my instruments are either bought separately or they were donated to the cause.? They are the correct instruments for the BN2, but having no information whatsoever on how many miles were on that shell I had the speedo dialed back to "0".? Besides starting from the ground up with new and rebuilt parts from all over the place is like building a car from new anyway. Mike MacLean On Thursday, April 30, 2020, 12:35:43 PM PDT, Max Byers wrote: #yiv1128801930 #yiv1128801930 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv1128801930 #yiv1128801930 p.yiv1128801930MsoNormal, #yiv1128801930 li.yiv1128801930MsoNormal, #yiv1128801930 div.yiv1128801930MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;}#yiv1128801930 a:link, #yiv1128801930 span.yiv1128801930MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1128801930 a:visited, #yiv1128801930 span.yiv1128801930MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1128801930 span.yiv1128801930EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv1128801930 .yiv1128801930MsoChpDefault {} _filtered {}#yiv1128801930 div.yiv1128801930Section1 {}#yiv1128801930 When I bought my BJ8 in 1984, the odometer was not working.? Itread 51,788 miles.? ??When I opened the unit I discovered a small spring andlever arm lying in the bottom of the case.? After I determined where those camefrom and reinstalled them, the odo has worked perfectly ever since.? Notknowing the mileage exactly, I had no problem zeroing it out.? It now shows 123,834miles.? I?m a great believer in log books for cars for recording their history. ? Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC? USA? ? From: Healeys[mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 3:05 PM To: Bruce Starke Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedometer repair ? When I had my speedo rebuilt 0ver 40 years ago, I had it setto 000000. Now I wish I had either noted the original miles or left it alone. Ira Erbs Portland,OR ? ? ? _______ ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ?_______ ? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) ? ? ? ?? (_________________________) ? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and diskbrakes ? ? 1967 MGB ? ? A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. MarioAndretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words ? ? | | Virus-free. www.avg.com | ? On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:49 AM Bruce Starke wrote: ?When I restored my BT7 Tricarb, the speedo had 100,xxxmiles on it . I did have it reset to 0 miles when the speedo was rebuilt butnow I think perhaps that I should have left it as is. The mileage would havebeen accurate ( as far as I know, I am not the original owner) and the postrestoration distance easy to measure given the first 3 numbers Bruce Starke Golden BC ? On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:47 AM Mirek Sharp wrote: Totally personal preference, but I would keep the original mileageas it reflects how much the car has been driven and it seems more honest. ? From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: April-30-20 9:22 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer repair ? I am sending my original speedo toNisonger?s for repair.? Should I keep the same 67,000 miles or go tozero?? Comments. ? 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URL: From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Thu Apr 30 23:37:32 2020 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Bruce Steele) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 22:37:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension In-Reply-To: <005901d61f15$1d652330$582f6990$@gmail.com> References: <001401d61c82$c620e8a0$5262b9e0$@xtra.co.nz> <004f01d61d83$8b0ee9e0$a12cbda0$@gmail.com> <21a701d61deb$739a7230$5acf5690$@roadrunner.com> <005901d61f15$1d652330$582f6990$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <027301d61f7a$9ee57f80$dcb07e80$@roadrunner.com> Here you go. I?m no draftsman, but I hope my plan makes sense in conjunction with the photos. Some fettling was necessary to get the angle of the pedal acceptable. I also put some felt on the angle iron to cushion the cut resting area of the pedal arm. The upper corner of the pedal arm is radiused to allow it to swivel upward to access the dip switch. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com [mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 10:31 AM To: 'Bruce Steele' ; 'Mark Donaldson' ; 'healeylist' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Hi Bruce ? sure, if you get bored some pictures and dimensions would be great! I do recall seeing the picture of the sisal mats, and it taking me a while to realize there are four pedals. It?s a really nice looking setup! ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Bruce Steele > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:00 AM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com ; 'Mark Donaldson' >; 'healeylist' > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Hi, Al. I hope you?re well. The DWR pedals mount to the standard holes in the arms once the stock pedals are removed. However, as I recall the gap between the ears or tabs on the DWR pedals was not large enough and required some filing to widen. Yes, once the grip tape started coming off the aluminum box I built, I decided to fabricate a new dead pedal to match the other DWR pedals. It?s a flat plate, 1/8? I believe, large enough to fit under the dip switch mount with about 6? of angle iron welded perpendicular to it at the top right (inboard) corner. A piece of, as I recall, 1? x ?? flat bar forms the down arm, attached with a ?? spacer to the angle iron by a nylock. This allows me to tow up the pedal to access the dip switch. I recall that I had to do a fair amount of grinding to relieve the arm to fit the pedal. I ground the lower corner of the flat bar until I got a satisfactory angle and position of the pedal. I never did a plan; I just started building up the idea and did a lot of trial and error fitting. I can crawl under there and take some rough measurements, if you?d like. And it?s always fun at shows watching people trying to figure out what the 4th pedal is for! BTW, with the COVID-19 fallout, my nephew?s start date at Ford has been pushed back to September. He?s going to summer in Des Moines with his parents once he graduates next month. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com [mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:36 AM To: 'Mark Donaldson' >; 'Bruce Steele' >; 'healeylist' > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Hi Bruce ? maybe you can share with us how you did this: [1] Do the pedal pads mount to the stock pedal arms, or require modification? I was also going to ask for the source, but they appear to say ?DWR? on them, so maybe I already know ?; [2] A while back you shared the look of your sisal mats. That pic shows that you refined your dead pedal from the prior aluminum box to something better ? how does the dead pedal work? ---------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:58 AM To: 'Bruce Steele' >; 'healeylist' > Subject: [Healeys] Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension Bruce, In your second photo I see what appears to be a Paddy Hopkirk pedal extension. I had one on my 1961 Austin-Cooper many years ago. Being bigger than the stock accelerator size, does it improve things ? like heel and toeing? I assume it fits neatly over the pedal as it appears, from memory, to be the same size as in the Mini Cooper. Cheers Mark Ardmore NZ -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Steele > Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 2:40 a.m. To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com ; 'healeylist' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights Interesting way to flood the dash. When you said under the dash, I thought you meant in the foot wells. Two projects for me: 1. I decided to add a clock to my auxiliary panel below the heater control, which already held my ammeter and switches for the fog and spot lamps. Extra credit for identifying the inspiration for the design of auxiliary panel. Hint: It is Healey related. 2. I'm fabricating a rally stopwatch panel. Bruce Steele Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [ mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don via Healeys Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:47 PM To: healey list < healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Lights So , when idle times come . What do we do to fill the void ? . My project has been to install LED light strips under the dash of my 67 BJ 8 . Looks good . Easily removed. Hidden switch. Extra lighting can?t hurt in our cars . And our sights can always use extra lights . All for under $20 . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Randy > On Apr 30, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote: > > Mike, > > No they did not number engine parts other than the engine number (easily removable aluminum tag) on the block should match the chassis number. > > Now the "M" distributors also had unique part numbers (there were two types) and of course the H-6 carburetors were also numbered, either AUC-6040 X or 6040 AA with of course the appropriate hand etched numbers 6047 and 6053 respectively. > > Also on a somewhat related subject, a recent thread stated that supposedly some "M" carburetors only had the number 6040 with no suffix. However, I doubt that assertion as I have never seen any originals numbered as such, and two other members of the Concours Committee (both 100M experts) that I've spoken to say that they have never seen Factory "M" carburetors with just a 6040 number. I'm 65 and these two members are 15 years older than me, with a lot more experience. > > Cheers, > > Curt > Op 30-4-2020 om 07:32 schreef Michael MacLean: > >> >> When I bought this head from my restorer friend that has passed, he told me it was off a 100M. A valve stem had bent on startup and the valve, valve guide and the hole for the valve guide were damaged. When I was putting seals on the valves I noticed one of the valve guides was larger in diameter than the rest. This was the repaired valve and guide. Luckily it is an exhaust valve so a seal of the type i am using did not need to be fit over it. My question is, a lot of the body parts were stamped with the chassis number on a 100M. Did they also number engine parts? This head had been cracked in the past and repaired correctly. See the " X" welded into the top of the head in the picture. >> Mike MacLean > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at me.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 13:28:43 2020 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:28:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Head In-Reply-To: References: <1012348286.96570.1588224759544.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1012348286.96570.1588224759544@mail.yahoo.com> <35b63ca7-c384-748f-bb8d-3a34c3673365@chello.nl> Message-ID: Thanks for the info, and I did know that, but just talking about parts that the average restorer/judge can see. On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:11 AM Randy Hicks wrote: > The 100M camshafts were also numbered, Either 1B2892 or 1B2895. > > Randy > > On Apr 30, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote: > > Mike, > > No they did not number engine parts other than the engine number (easily > removable aluminum tag) on the block should match the chassis number. > > Now the "M" distributors also had unique part numbers (there were two > types) and of course the H-6 carburetors were also numbered, either > AUC-6040 X or 6040 AA with of course the appropriate hand etched numbers > 6047 and 6053 respectively. > > Also on a somewhat related subject, a recent thread stated that > supposedly some "M" carburetors only had the number 6040 with no suffix. > However, I doubt that assertion as I have never seen any originals numbered > as such, and two other members of the Concours Committee (both 100M > experts) that I've spoken to say that they have never seen Factory "M" > carburetors with just a 6040 number. I'm 65 and these two members are 15 > years older than me, with a lot more experience. > > Cheers, > > Curt > >> Op 30-4-2020 om 07:32 schreef Michael MacLean: >> >> >> When I bought this head from my restorer friend that has passed, he told >> me it was off a 100M. A valve stem had bent on startup and the valve, >> valve guide and the hole for the valve guide were damaged. When I was >> putting seals on the valves I noticed one of the valve guides was larger in >> diameter than the rest. This was the repaired valve and guide. Luckily it >> is an exhaust valve so a seal of the type i am using did not need to be fit >> over it. My question is, a lot of the body parts were stamped with the >> chassis number on a 100M. Did they also number engine parts? This head >> had been cracked in the past and repaired correctly. See the " X" welded >> into the top of the head in the picture. >> Mike MacLean >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at me.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Thu Apr 30 13:39:14 2020 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 19:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 100M Head In-Reply-To: References: <1012348286.96570.1588224759544.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1012348286.96570.1588224759544@mail.yahoo.com> <35b63ca7-c384-748f-bb8d-3a34c3673365@chello.nl> Message-ID: <1013287564.29073.1588275554710@mail.yahoo.com> OK, I'm getting an education here too.? So, what is the number stamped into the top flange of the head in the picture?? Also Kees mention I have the wrong washer under the head nut.? Someone needs to tell Moss then, that's the one they sold me for that purpose.Mike MacLean? On Thursday, April 30, 2020, 12:28:54 PM PDT, Curtis Arndt wrote: Thanks for the info, and I did know that, but just talking about parts that the average restorer/judge can see. On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:11 AM Randy Hicks wrote: The 100M camshafts were also numbered, Either 1B2892 or 1B2895. Randy On Apr 30, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote: Mike, No they did not number engine parts other than the engine?number (easily removable aluminum tag) on the block should match the chassis number.?? Now the "M" distributors also had unique part numbers (there were two types) and of course the H-6 carburetors were also numbered, either AUC-6040 X or 6040 AA with of course the appropriate?hand etched numbers 6047 and 6053 respectively. Also on a somewhat related?subject, a recent thread stated that supposedly?some "M" carburetors only had the number 6040 with no suffix. However, I doubt that assertion as I have never seen any originals numbered as such, and two other members of the Concours?Committee?(both 100M experts) that I've spoken to say that they have never?seen Factory "M" carburetors with just a 6040 number.? I'm 65 and these two members are 15 years older than me, with a lot more experience. Cheers, Curt Op 30-4-2020 om 07:32 schreef Michael MacLean: When I bought this head from my restorer friend that has passed, he told me it was off a 100M.? A valve stem had bent on startup and the valve, valve guide and the hole for the valve guide were damaged.? When I was putting seals on the valves I noticed one of the valve guides was larger in diameter than the rest.? This was the repaired valve and guide.? Luckily it is an exhaust valve so a seal of the type i am using did not need to be fit over it.? My question is, a lot of the body parts were stamped with the chassis number on a 100M.? Did they also number engine parts?? This head had been cracked in the past and repaired correctly.? See the " X" welded into the top of the head in the picture. 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