[Healeys] Ford versus Ferrari

John Rowe john at jtkarowe.com.au
Thu Dec 19 23:10:07 MST 2019


V8 Supercars in Australia have the rotor and caliper/linings assembly
complete for quick change. They are full of fluid, bled, have quick change
connection on the brake line and can be swapped out in 29 seconds per wheel.
John Rowe
Qld Australia 

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter
Dzwig
Sent: Friday, 20 December 2019 7:53 AM
To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE; Alan Seigrist; jim
Cc: Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ford versus Ferrari

Actually guys, isn't there anyone on the list who was involved in some
way? or has a fiend who was? So that we know what was done.

In the nicest possible way, if you do ask them and put us out of our misery!

All the best,

Peter

PS Yes, I did have a friend who worked on a couple of the GT40s in later
years and was part of the 567 record-breaker resurrection team at one
point, but he appears to have disappeared off the face of the earth!

On 18/12/2019 05:51, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote:
> In the movie, although there wasn't much technical explanation, it
> appeared that they removed and replaced the entire suspension upright
> assembly with new stub axles, hubs, rotors and calipers in place. I was
> thinking they must have used some kind of quick connect on the brake
> lines with a quick bleeder in place.
> 
> Bill Lawrence
> BN1 #554
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> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Alan
> Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2019 3:22 AM
> *To:* jim <ab7vf at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Healey list <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Ford versus Ferrari
>  
> as long as you are removing the brake pads and not the calipers, no need
> bleed anything.  Honestly with some practice on the BJ8, with a full pit
> crew, you could probably remove and replace the rotors and pads in 5 min
> or less if assemblies were ready.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 2:43 AM jim via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net
> <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Changing "rotors" ..Changing "pads" ...Changing "calipers" ...Not
>     equivalent
> 
>      the ONLY time I need to open the fluid lines is when I have to
>     change "calipers"
> 
>     All the caliper change directions I have seen advise to prefill/pre
>     bleed caliper before fitting
> 
>     Heat? ...Use a CO2 extinguisher (you do have a current certified one
>     in your shop) ...I do
> 
>     change pads .. c clamp to press piston back into caliper (use a
>     large screwdriver/pry bar if you are changing pads/rotors)
>     fluid will flow back into reservoir ...If you don't want the crud
>     from the caliper back into the system, crack the bleeder valve..
>     ditto for changing rotors
> 
>     Remove 2 pins to change pads//remove 2 bolts to change rotors/pads
> 
>     suspend "caliper" from ? to avoid kinking/twisting flex line
> 
>     remove/replace rotors ..
> 
>     remove/replace pads ..
> 
>     Piece o' cake (go to Les Schwab and watch how they do it)
> 
>     Jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     On Friday, December 13, 2019, 5:01:27 PM UTC, Bob Spidell
>     <bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     I wondered that myself.   Maybe some sort of check valve on the
>     brake lines and pre-filled calipers, allowing bleeding with just a
>     couple quick pumps on the brake pedal?
> 
>     Of course, it was a movie, so maybe it was the figment of some
>     screenpaly writer's imagination?
> 
>     Bob
> 
>     On 12/13/2019 7:01 AM, Linwood Rose via Healeys wrote:
>>     For those who saw the movie "Ford versus Ferrari." On the Phil
>>     Remington quick change rotor/caliper assembly, how do they avoid
>>     having to bleed the brakes?
>>     Just curious.
>>
>>     Lin
>>
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