[Healeys] Concours Registry and Guidelines (was: Thanks for all the help)

Fri Dec 13 00:17:00 MST 2019

I’ll second that.  The Concours Guidelines sits right beside my workshop manual and Is consulted on almost every task I undertake.  I belong to other one-make clubs, and of course talk to owners of other makes, and there is nothing to my knowledge that rivals the completeness and accuracy of the our Concours Guidelines.  I would add that I appreciate its humbleness and open-mindedness.  The authors note where there is doubt, seek new information from those with original cars, and intend only to provide the best possible information based on sound research and informed discussion.   Moreover, some of the authors are regular contributors to this list, and I have had occasion to contact a number of them to seek clarification on some aspects of my Healey, and their knowledge and experience are always graciously provided; a contribution for which I and many other Healey owners are incredibly grateful for.  We do not all have to share the view that the only way to prepare a car is to restore it to the way it was when it emerged from the doors at Abingdon (or Longbridge), but having that information at hand gives the ability to make informed decisions on every repair, regardless of whether it is a gold standard show car, a faithfully maintained driver like my BT7, or a tired old beast kept going on a shoestring budget.  The Guidelines are the furthest thing from “bullshit” I can think of.  Many thanks to those who reference our dear departed friend Rich, who still inspires me.

Mirek

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Al Fuller
Sent: December-12-19 7:24 PM
To: 'Healeys'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours Registry and Guidelines (was: Thanks for all the help)

Michael and John:

Thanks for expressing the sentiments others of us have!!  My Healey is nowhere near concours, but I do really appreciate the efforts of those who help us understand what the cars are like when restored as they were when produced.

Al Fuller

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 7:09 PM
To: John P. New <jnew at hazelden.ca>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours Registry and Guidelines (was: Thanks for all the help)

John, I could not agree with more with everything you have said. 

Concours may not be for everyone but to characterize it as "bullshit" is a profound insult to the dozens of dedicated individuals who believe in the accurate preservation of the marque.

For years I found Kees contributions to this list to be consistently simplistic and generic and was very gratified to find that Gmail provides an easy way to block his drivel. 

M

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 11:27 AM John P. New, <jnew at hazelden.ca> wrote:

Kees,

Your statement, "All this concourse stuff is bullshit," really makes me angry.

I have been a member of this list for almost twenty years and I have seen you write some really inaccurate things about Healeys but this takes the cake. Indeed, even the late Richard Chrysler once told you on this list to keep your uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to yourself.

The Concours Guidelines (and *please* spell concours properly) is one of the few secondary sources of information that can help in the preservation and restoration of an Austin-Healey. I would say that in many ways it is THE BEST secondary source because it is updated annually as new information is gathered. No publication is without errors, so even great books by such authors as Clausager or Moment & Anderson do contain factual inaccuracies that may mislead a restoration. (To be fair to Moment & Anderson, they keep a list of errata for their book, available for the asking)

If you think Concours is about trailer queens and awards, then you just have no clue why the organization exists. To quote the very first sentence of the Austin-Healey Concours Registry Organization, Policies and Inspection Guidelines,

"The Austin-Healey Concours Registry was created by members from a number of Austin-Healey clubs in North America to assist owners in restoring their cars to original standards and to encourage the restoration and maintenance of original cars."

This sums up the entire mission of the Registry. Please note that the word "bullshit" does not appear there nor anywhere else in the publication.

So, following in the footsteps of Richard Chrysler: Kees, please keep your baseless, uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to yourself.

John P. New
London, Ontario, Canada

On Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:35:33 AM EST Kees Oudesluijs wrote:
> That looks very neat and tidy. Time to get it dirty. However fit some 
> air filters in a cold box first. Avoid the foam affairs because of 
> severe fire risk. These cars are for driving. All this concourse stuff 
> is bullshit. Use them, make them safe to drive in modern traffic and 
> enjoy them. We have friends that use their A-H cars as a daily driver 
> and rebuild the car every so often if and when extensive repairs are 
> needed.
> 
> To many concourse trailer queens about that may not even be fit for driving.
> 
> Kees Oudesluijs
> 
> 
> 
> Op 12-12-2019 om 04:05 schreef richard mayor:
> > The 1960 BT7 that I have been working on is not concours. I can't go 
> > into details right now but here's a photo of the engine compartment.
> >
> > DSCN4470 (1).jpg
> >
> >
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