[Healeys] DMV No Go

HealeyRick healeyrik at gmail.com
Sun Oct 29 09:51:06 MDT 2017


Mike,

I don't know how CA values cars for sales tax purposes, but here in the
great Commonwealth of Taxachusetts, a classic car sold in a private
transaction is not taxed on the actual sale price, even if you have a
notarized bill of sale and other evidence showing how much the buyer
actually paid.  Instead, the tax is based on what the state determines the
car is "worth" despite no one can figure out exactly how that determination
is made.  There's been a lot of horror stories about people buying a
classic in need of all kinds of work and being taxed at some ridiculous
value based on a fully restored car.  And appeals of those valuations have
been uniformly unsuccessful.

And while I'm filling you in on the latest fun stuff from back home, the
state has now put video cameras in the safety inspection stations to record
whether the inspector is performing the inspection correctly. Lots of
concern that the inspectors will now be forced to "work to rule" on items
like exhaust sound (state law is an exhaust can't be any louder than a
stock set up) or the amount of lift on a truck that the inspectors might
have let slide in the past and no officer would ever cite as a violation.
Of course, there are no decibel measurements to establish what a Healey
sounded like or any other car for that matter, so I guess we'll have to
rely on the finely tuned ear of the inspector.

Rick Neville

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
wrote:

> Per,
>      I have found there are some differences depending on which DMV you
> take the car to.  Some are more sticklers for the rules while others are
> not.  Maybe the DMV that David deals with is one such place that follows
> the letter of the rule.  Out here in San Bernardino I was told all I needed
> was an engine in the bare body shell I brought to them for verification.
> Since it is a long way before I will be dropping the engine in, the car
> will not see the DMV for a while.  You don't put an engine in a bare engine
> bay.  Brake piping, insulating the foot box with the asbestos replacement
> and such has to be done before the engine goes in.  My original goal was to
> just bring in the body shell to avoid paying a high transfer tax.  It is
> easier justifying the low purchase price of a body shell than the value of
> a finished car.  I don't think the state of California is going to let me
> get away with it.
> Mike MacLean
>
>
> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:47 AM, Per Schoerner <per at schoerner.se>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> So why do they ask for the engine to be in the car then, btw. some car
> brands don’t even have an engine number?
>
> Per
>
> Skickat från min iPhone
>
> > 28 okt. 2017 kl. 18:55 skrev Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>:
> >
> > "... How is it in California, id the engine number recorded in the state
> car register, if it is I would understand the rule."
> >
> > Nope.  CA uses VIN and plate# only--plates can change, for instance if
> you pay extra for a 'vanity' plate--though it's conceivable engine# and VIN
> for a car could have gotten mixed-up many years ago.  Healey 'VINs' are
> different than those for contemporary vehicles.
> >
> > Bob
>
>
>
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