[Healeys] OT: Re: get a load of this one..

Michael Oritt michael.oritt at gmail.com
Sun Feb 14 08:38:23 MST 2016


Bob--

Wonderful post, plus what Gary and others have said about why we don't do
politics here.

I don't like big spiders and now I have a second good reason never to go to
AZ.

Best--Michael Oritt


On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

> That's the problem with being a johnny-come-lately.  I'm 62, a
> fourth-generation Californian and have lived my entire life here, and I
> certainly don't feel as threatened as you do (though I've noticed that a
> lot of people tend to get paranoid as they get older).  Yes, California is
> getting crowded because just about everybody in the world, it seems, wants
> to live here.  The people freezing their asses off back east will likely
> give it some thought when they hear about our recent 70deg+ weather; not to
> mention the relative abundance of jobs--including yours--being created in
> spite of our nazi-communist-facist-socialist government.
>
> Your claim that the FAA "wants to treat my 7 pound model airplane that
> does not fly out of my sight or place anyone or anything in danger like all
> aircraft and make me be licensed to fly it. of course the license is not
> free" is factually incorrect.  The truth is here:
> https://www.faa.gov/uas/model_aircraft/
>
> It took all of 10 seconds of internet searching to find this, although I
> was probably already more informed about this than you ever will be because
> I'm a private pilot and have been following this topic in the news and
> aviation publications for quite a while.  Yes, pilots really are concerned
> about this as there have already been several reported instances of 'near
> misses' with both commercial and general aviation aircraft.  And, your 7lb
> RC aircraft could do significant damage--possibly even cause a crash (birds
> have brought down aircraft, see
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549)--to a light
> aircraft traveling at speeds in excess of 100MPH, and the airlines are
> rightfully concerned about someone flying one of the larger drones into an
> airliner full of passengers (don't think it could happen? Ever hear about
> the idiots pointing lasers at aircraft?).
>
> California is such a terrible place for RC aircraft enthusiasts they build
> special 'airports'--there's one in nearby Livermore--so that the RC people
> have their own runway, airspace and parking to indulge their hobby.  At the
> park I often run at--Rancho San Antonio in Los Altos--the RC people had
> their own area and there were some conflicts so the terrible California
> people said "Hey, let's fence off part of the park for the RC aircraft
> people and tell others to stay the hell away from it."  Problem solved.
> And, your attempt to conflate a federal agency, the FAA--ever ask yourself
> what the big 'F' stands for?--with the state of California get's an 'A' for
> creativity, but an 'F' for veracity.  Side note: the FAA rules seem onerous
> at times--the FAR, the book of regulations for pilots, is 2-3 inches thick
> of fine print--but I respect them because most were written because
> somebody--often, a lot of somebodies--died.  The FAA is indeed struggling
> with this, as they are trying to balance the 'rights' of the RC/drone
> people with the rights of everybody else.
>
> I could go on, but I'm probably pushing the limit on message size, but
> I'll say one more thing: Apparently, you moved to California in '71 because
> California afforded you an opportunity for a good career; a career that has
> done so well for you that you are now able to contemplate retirement.  Yet
> you can't resist taking a swipe at the very state that afforded you this
> opportunity and enabled you to prosper.
>
> Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
>
> Cheers,
> Bob
>
>
>
> On 2/13/2016 10:22 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:
>
> I moved here in 1971. It was a very different place back then.  Not as
> crowded and not as regulated in all aspects of life.  These days you can't
> keep up with all the nanny state laws being passed every year.  You can be
> a law abiding citizen one day and a potential felon the next.  Every year
> brings more regulations and control over almost everything you do.  Let's
> not get started on the gun control issue.  Now they can take all your
> firearms with no crime having been committed. All someone has to do is
> convince a judge you MIGHT do something to yourself or someone else.  If
> that is not the thought police, I don't know what is.  Yes, you don't have
> to smog a car made before 1975, but every year some lame brain democrat
> will introduce a bill to make ALL cars have to undergo smog either retro
> actively or be destroyed even though they do not contribute even 1 percent
> of the smog to California.  That bimbo from the San Francisco are Fran
> Pavley tried to get all motorcycles have to undergo smog tests
> retroactively back many years over a certain engine size.  Never mind
> motorcycles are not ridden as much or as often as automobiles or are a mall
> percentage of all vehicles on the road.  Luckily it was defeated.  It all
> started going down hill when the legislature in California went for being
> is session for six months out of the year to year round.  Yes Bob I do feel
> free to leave this quagmire of rules and control of personal liberties.
> Every one of my hobbies I will pursue when I retire is now being controlled
> by either the state of California or as in my radio control hobby the
> federal government being the FAA in particular.  The FAA wants to treat my
> 7 pound model airplane that does not fly out of my sight or place anyone or
> anything in danger like all aircraft and make me be licensed to fly it. of
> course the license is not free.  You have to pay for the government to
> control you.  I retire from the railroad at the end of the year and am
> seriously eyeing Arizona as a retirement destination.  At least there I
> don't worry about  an new firearm law being passed every 5 minutes.
> Mike MacLean
> <http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike@att.net>
>
>
>
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