[Healeys] Mount a coil on an alternator.
josef-eckert at t-online.de
josef-eckert at t-online.de
Sat Dec 24 07:41:36 MST 2016
Hi Kees,
You know in Europe we live in a high density area, nearly all over,
especially you in the Randstad area and here we in the Cologne are. To the
north we have the Ruhrgebiet to the south the Frankfurt area, and, and,
and. No joy to drive anymore. I never ever want to drive into a bigger town
or city with a classic car. Where shall I park the car? I avoid in any way
to drive on the motorways with a classic car. You are overrolled by the
trucks. For long distances I load it on my trailer and bring it to the
place where I can enjoy driving. Much easier than doing these legs in a
classic. For driving in beautiful rural areas the car has all iit needs and
I see no reason to change anything. Its a winning team as it is and it
works, believe me. Friends with all these modifications on their cars have
more trouble with their cars than I have.
Josef Eckert
Konigswinter/Germany
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: Mount a coil on an alternator.
Datum: 2016-12-24T15:26:26+0100
Von: "Oudesluys" <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>, "Healeys, Forum"
<Healeys at autox.team.net>
Hi Josef,
Well...., increase the diameter of the wires from/ to the alternator and
the H4 bulbs if fitted. The old head light bulbs are to dim for modern
traffic conditions and you will also need an electric cooling fan to keep
you out of trouble.
In my view it is advisable and permissible to make small adaptions to an
old vehicle if you want to use and enjoy it in modern traffic. You cannot
travel the same way any more as in the olde days.
Cheers,
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 24-12-2016 om 15:00 schreef josef-eckert at t-online.de
<mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> :
Kees,
There is never a need for additional power, except your regulator is
not well tuned. Better to set the regulator right. The wiring in an
Austin-Healey is not prepared to take the up to more than double output
current of an alternator. The cables can get hot, can melt and get
brittle inside the wiring loom. Same can happen when switched from
ordinary headlights to H4 halogen headlights. The feeding cables are
too thin for the current flowing through.
Josef Eckert
Konigswinter/Germany
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Mount a coil on an alternator.
Datum: 2016-12-24T14:01:08+0100
Von: "Oudesluys" <coudesluijs at chello.nl> <mailto:coudesluijs at chello.nl>
An: "healeys at autox.team.net" <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
<healeys at autox.team.net> <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
The main reason for changing to an alternator is that it produces a
high(ish) charging current starting at low speeds, usually around 35A
(e.g. Lucas 100). Therefore the total output is higher. Especially if
you drive the car with headlights on all the time and/or have an
electric radiator fan, high power radio etc. you are better of with an
alternator. It also is easier to maintain thus more reliable than a
generator plus regulator.
Most generators produce 20-25A max. at high speed but will barely cope
as they do not charge much if at all at low speeds.
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 24-12-2016 om 4:01 schreef Bob Spidell:
Simon,
My knowledge of electronics is limited, but I do know the basics.
I can't think of any reason you couldn't fasten a coil to an
alternator, except maybe their shape isn't as convenient for such
use. Alternators are generators--my 2008 Mustang's shop manual
even calls them that--the only difference is how the unit converts
alternating current to direct current, which is needed for charging
the battery and for most other electrical needs in a car.
Generators physically 'commute'--the more contemporary term is
'rectify'--the AC with brushes and the segmented commutator--hence
the name--while alternators commute the AC with diodes. If
anything, alternators produce less electromagnetic
interference--EFI--than generators since there is less chance of
creating a spark. Alternators are more efficient--correct me if
I'm wrong here--because without brushes they can be spun faster for
a given engine speed (note alternator pulleys are usually smaller
than generator pulleys).
I do think a coil mounted on an alternator would look silly, but
that's just me.
Cheers,
Bob
----------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk>
<mailto:simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk>
To: josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> ,
"Forum' 'Healeys" <Healeys at autox.team.net>
<mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:35:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mount a coil on an alternator.
Thank you for this. As ever, all advice sought is welcome.
However....per my comment to your answer to my (previous) BJ8
questions, it would be really helpful if you applied your huge
enthusiasm and knowledge to the question asked. I’m sure that your
knowledge is encyclopaedic, but maybe, when you’re asked a simple
question by a simple person, for once give a simple answer.
Simon
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> [
mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de>
]
Sent: 23 December 2016 21:07
To: Simon Lachlan; Healeys, Forum
Subject: AW: [Healeys] Mount a coil on an alternator.
People who swap a generator for an alternator like to modify in any
way. Anybody who knows more about electrics know there is no need
for an alternator at all on Healeys. its only to adjust the
rehulator to work as it should. But that´s to difficult for most I
suspect.
those selling these alternators are quite happy to sell them as
people like to modify and they also sell you one of these
performance coils and they need to be kept cool and best is to put
the coil in the boot to keep it cool. Haven´t seen that so far but
can´t await to see it.
Josef Eckert
Konigswinter/Germany
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: [Healeys] Mount a coil on an alternator.
Datum: 2016-12-23T21:57:44+0100
Von: "Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk
<mailto:simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk> >
An: "'Healey Group'" <healeys at autox.team.net
<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
I’ve had an alternator in my BT7 for a while now.
So, when I was doing the job, I looked at pictures of other
people’s installations. Nobody’s coil was mounted on the alternator
as coils were/are mounted on the generators.
I didn’t mount mine on the alternator either.
Now, I’m wondering why everybody found ingenious places to put the
coils and nobody ingeniously adapted their brackets to fit onto
their alternator.
Do alternators get too hot? Do they give off some kind of magic
death ray that fries coils or what??
Any reasons not to do it??
Thanks,
Simon
_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
<http://www.team.net/donate.html> Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
<http://www.team.net/archive> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
<http://www.team.net/forums> Healeys at autox.team.net
<mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
<http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl
<http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs@chello.nl>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20161224/0c8b3157/attachment.html>
More information about the Healeys
mailing list