From jarowe at westnet.com.au Tue May 1 02:12:19 2012 From: jarowe at westnet.com.au (John Rowe) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 16:12:19 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100/4 with single Weber carb Message-ID: <4F9F9AE3.7080908@westnet.com.au> Hi all Does anyone have any experience with a single Weber (45 DCOE) on a 100/4. There is very little information in my Weber books. We're looking for a good starting point for jets etc regards John Rowe Western Australia From sebring at hotkey.net.au Tue May 1 09:12:44 2012 From: sebring at hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 01:12:44 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] 100/4 with single Weber carb In-Reply-To: <4F9F9AE3.7080908@westnet.com.au> References: <4F9F9AE3.7080908@westnet.com.au> Message-ID: <4F9FFD6C.6070305@hotkey.net.au> John Rowe wrote: > Hi all > > Does anyone have any experience with a single Weber (45 DCOE) on a 100/4. > > There is very little information in my Weber books. > > We're looking for a good starting point for jets etc > > regards > > John Rowe > Western Australia > ______________________ > > John Some years back, say 1970 I say a Melbourne 100/4 with a 58mm Weber!!!!!!!!!! It must have been reasonable because; a. he drove it 550 mile up from Melbourne b. it did not catch fire, not like my poorly jetted single Weber on a GM Holden 6 cyl engine fitted to my BN.4 Two cwt. lighter, 1500rpm mmore available and an 'all - night- chemist - cam' where the valves almost never closed. ( chemist = drug store) From ruvino at ripnet.com Tue May 1 11:58:15 2012 From: ruvino at ripnet.com (Dr. C. Rubino) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:58:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] jacks Message-ID: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> A variation on the theme. I have a mechanical scissors jack (have to turn the handle around clockwise). Last year I had a flat and found that my old age has robed me of strength and I could not get the wheel off the ground. Fortunately a strong young man stopped to help. I have been looking at alternative jakes and have focused on the the scissors jack (handle pumps up and down just like a standard floor jack. Called Big Red you can find it at torinjacksusa.com, Model T1152. Itbs a little bigger than I would like but would allow me to do the job. |Any thoughts? Chris Dimmock your response to me of Sept/11 is still a good idea. I am just wondering about this one. From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue May 1 12:52:04 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 14:52:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] jacks In-Reply-To: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> References: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> Message-ID: <026c01cd27cb$808b9c90$81a2d5b0$@verizon.net> If interested, the model number is T11152 (note three 1's) John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dr. C. Rubino Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:58 PM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] jacks A variation on the theme. I have a mechanical scissors jack (have to turn the handle around clockwise). Last year I had a flat and found that my old age has robed me of strength and I could not get the wheel off the ground. Fortunately a strong young man stopped to help. I have been looking at alternative jakes and have focused on the the scissors jack (handle pumps up and down just like a standard floor jack. Called Big Red you can find it at torinjacksusa.com, Model T1152. Itbs a little bigger than I would like but would allow me to do the job. |Any thoughts? Chris Dimmock your response to me of Sept/11 is still a good idea. I am just wondering about this one. $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Tue May 1 13:28:46 2012 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 14:28:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Jacks In-Reply-To: References: <4F9E7EFA.8040802@comcast.net> Message-ID: extra copies of the nov/dec 2011 issue of ah mag with the comprehensive tool & jack article by roger moment are available for $5 + $2 shipping. checks payable to ahcusa. for shipping outside the u.s., increase the shipping to $3 jerry wall 7217 birchmont dr. rowlett, tx 75089 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:57 AM, andy pole wrote: > Michael see: > http://www.mgaroadster.co.uk/shelley_jacks.htm > Cheers > > > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:54:38 -0400 > > From: michaelsalter at gmail.com > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jacks > > > > While on the subject of jacks I'm looking for one for my very early BN1. > > I understand that this is a Shelley which has "6 INCH" cast into the side > > opposite the brand name. > > I recognize that this may be a tall order but if anyone they would sell I > > would like to hear from them. > > Failing that if someone has one and the time I would really appreciate > some > > good photos. > > -- > > Michael Salter > > > > Check My Blog > > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ampole at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue May 1 13:30:50 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 15:30:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] jacks References: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> Message-ID: <027c01cd27d0$eada5370$c08efa50$@verizon.net> Available at Amazon.com and Pep Boys among others. Around 60 bucks. If interested, the model number is T11152 (note three 1's) John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dr. C. Rubino Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:58 PM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] jacks A variation on the theme. I have a mechanical scissors jack (have to turn the handle around clockwise). Last year I had a flat and found that my old age has robed me of strength and I could not get the wheel off the ground. Fortunately a strong young man stopped to help. I have been looking at alternative jakes and have focused on the the scissors jack (handle pumps up and down just like a standard floor jack. Called Big Red you can find it at torinjacksusa.com, Model T1152. Itbs a little bigger than I would like but would allow me to do the job. |Any thoughts? Chris Dimmock your response to me of Sept/11 is still a good idea. I am just wondering about this one. $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From healeyguy at bredband.net Tue May 1 13:34:45 2012 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 21:34:45 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] jacks In-Reply-To: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> References: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> Message-ID: <4FA03AD5.3060707@bredband.net> Hi For the lazy ones around, there are scissors jacks with an electrical motor on it, just plug it into your cigar lighter and lift the wheel off the ground. Here's a link to a swedish supplier, it's about 100 US$ and can cope with two tons. I'm sure you have the similar in your own country. http://biltema.se/sv/Bil---MC/Verktyg-och-Verkstadsutrustning/Lyftverktyg/Saxdomkraft-elektrisk-2-ton-15367/ Per Dr. C. Rubino skrev 2012-05-01 19:58: > A variation on the theme. > > I have a mechanical scissors jack (have to turn the handle around clockwise). > > Last year I had a flat and found that my old age has robed me of strength and > I could not get the wheel off the ground. Fortunately a strong young man > stopped to help. From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Tue May 1 13:57:33 2012 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 12:57:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] jacks In-Reply-To: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> References: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> Message-ID: Dr. R.: Electric. Central Hydraulics, Electric Scissor Jack, 12 volt, 2 ton capacity. Model 95851. Minimum unit height: 4 3/4 inches; Maximum lifting height: 13 1/2 inches, Overall dimensions: 15 1/2 L, 6 1/4 W, 4 H; weight 12 pounds. Only physical effort needed is getting it in and out of the trunk and pushing the buttons on the corded remote. Where to buy? Last one I saw was at Harbor Freight. Walmart had them at one time. I have seen them in catalogs. I am going out to various car parts stores today and will add this to my list of things to look for. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. C. Rubino" To: "healeylist" Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:58 AM Subject: [Healeys] jacks >A variation on the theme. > > I have a mechanical scissors jack (have to turn the handle around > clockwise). > > Last year I had a flat and found that my old age has robed me of strength > and > I could not get the wheel off the ground. Fortunately a strong young man > stopped to help. > > I have been looking at alternative jakes and have focused on the the > scissors > jack (handle pumps up and down just like a standard floor jack. > Called Big Red you can find it at torinjacksusa.com, Model T1152. > > Itbs a little bigger than I would like but would allow me to do the job. > > |Any thoughts? From kags at shaw.ca Tue May 1 14:08:37 2012 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:08:37 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] jacks In-Reply-To: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> References: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> Message-ID: <1D384BC4FDDC4F79AFF286F47AC31016@KagsLaptop> Carl: One thing that one of my Healey buddies found that works well is the factory jack from a current to late model Chrysler / Dodge minivan - we buy them from the auto wreckers for not very much money. It's good because the operating handle is incorporated, and it fits well in the space that the original jack is stowed, with most of the thing projecting downwards so that the spare still stows easily on top of it. You don't have a jack handle running around the boot. Haven't had to use one yet, but what I can do is take a couple of photos for you and send them - I just finished the install on my BJ8. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb -----Original Message----- From: Dr. C. Rubino Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:58 AM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] jacks A variation on the theme. I have a mechanical scissors jack (have to turn the handle around clockwise). Last year I had a flat and found that my old age has robed me of strength and I could not get the wheel off the ground. Fortunately a strong young man stopped to help. I have been looking at alternative jakes and have focused on the the scissors jack (handle pumps up and down just like a standard floor jack. Called Big Red you can find it at torinjacksusa.com, Model T1152. Itbs a little bigger than I would like but would allow me to do the job. |Any thoughts? Chris Dimmock your response to me of Sept/11 is still a good idea. I am just wondering about this one. From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Tue May 1 14:29:06 2012 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:29:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] jacks In-Reply-To: <4FA03AD5.3060707@bredband.net> References: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> <4FA03AD5.3060707@bredband.net> Message-ID: <5FACF7A4A06F409DA5B068BA975B585B@LeonardPCPC> Dr. R.: Exactly what Per Schoerner and I are talking about. I Googled "electric scissor jack" and two of the 149,000 hits indicate that Harbor Freight and Amazon are sources for this jack. There is also a YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvh2rNJd8Po (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Schoerner" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] jacks > Hi > For the lazy ones around, there are scissors jacks with an electrical > motor on it, just plug it into your cigar lighter and lift the wheel off > the ground. Here's a link to a swedish supplier, it's about 100 US$ and > can cope with two tons. I'm sure you have the similar in your own country. > http://biltema.se/sv/Bil---MC/Verktyg-och-Verkstadsutrustning/Lyftverktyg/Saxdomkraft-elektrisk-2-ton-15367/ > > Per From rdickson at midwestarchaeology.com Tue May 1 15:29:21 2012 From: rdickson at midwestarchaeology.com (Randy Dickson) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 16:29:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] jacks In-Reply-To: <1D384BC4FDDC4F79AFF286F47AC31016@KagsLaptop> References: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> <1D384BC4FDDC4F79AFF286F47AC31016@KagsLaptop> Message-ID: <005101cd27e1$79bbfb60$6d33f220$@midwestarchaeology.com> I had been bidding on LJ-225 jacks on Ebay for my Healey for about 6-years. I even bid on cracked and broken ones, just to have an original one in my trunk of my BJ-7. Someone always pipped me in the last 20 seconds. I finally gave up. I think that the last one I bid on went for $300 US. Randy 63 BJ7 60 BT7 From ggilliam at usol.com Tue May 1 16:47:35 2012 From: ggilliam at usol.com (ggilliam at usol.com) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 17:47:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Daimler SP-250 Message-ID: <6d1e34f249e7ea23c2a76a333676e758@usol.com> A week or so ago I sent a note about a 1963 Daimler SP-250 "Dart" that I ran across. The owner has since told me that he does want to sell his excess collection of cars, including the Daimler. It is an unusual LBC, complete except for the missing transmission, which I understand is a TR-3 derivation. I He is asking $20K as-is, where-is, which is the Holly, MI area. Later he will list the car on Ebay and Hemmings for a higher price. Contact me if you have an interest in this unique vehicle. Regards, Gordy From michael.oritt at gmail.com Tue May 1 17:16:22 2012 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:16:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] jacks In-Reply-To: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> References: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> Message-ID: I have seen somewhere a scissors jack that runs off of 12V--I believe it has a standard cigarette lighter plug. Best--Michael Oritt --------------------- On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Dr. C. Rubino wrote: > A variation on the theme. > > I have a mechanical scissors jack (have to turn the handle around > clockwise). > > Last year I had a flat and found that my old age has robed me of strength > and > I could not get the wheel off the ground. Fortunately a strong young man > stopped to help. > > I have been looking at alternative jakes and have focused on the the > scissors > jack (handle pumps up and down just like a standard floor jack. > Called Big Red you can find it at torinjacksusa.com, Model T1152. > > Itb s a little bigger than I would like but would allow me to do the job. > > |Any thoughts? > > Chris Dimmock your response to me of Sept/11 is still a good idea. I am > just > wondering about this one. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From jtrifari at comcast.net Tue May 1 17:56:32 2012 From: jtrifari at comcast.net (John Trifari) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 16:56:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] jacks In-Reply-To: References: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> Message-ID: <001901cd27f6$0ae43b20$20acb160$@net> I have a scissors jack in my BN1. There's a 3/4-inch nut where the handle is inserted, so I just use a 3/4-inch socket and a long extension rod. Cranking it up is fairly routine. John Trifari Golden Gate AHC -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Oritt Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:16 PM To: Dr. C. Rubino Cc: healeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] jacks I have seen somewhere a scissors jack that runs off of 12V--I believe it has a standard cigarette lighter plug. Best--Michael Oritt --------------------- On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Dr. C. Rubino wrote: > A variation on the theme. > > I have a mechanical scissors jack (have to turn the handle around > clockwise). > > Last year I had a flat and found that my old age has robed me of > strength and I could not get the wheel off the ground. Fortunately a > strong young man stopped to help. > > I have been looking at alternative jakes and have focused on the the > scissors jack (handle pumps up and down just like a standard floor > jack. > Called Big Red you can find it at torinjacksusa.com, Model T1152. > > Itb s a little bigger than I would like but would allow me to do the job. > > |Any thoughts? > > Chris Dimmock your response to me of Sept/11 is still a good idea. I > am just wondering about this one. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtrifari at comcast.net From mgcharlie at comcast.net Tue May 1 18:27:46 2012 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 20:27:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] California residents Message-ID: <4FA07F82.7010406@comcast.net> If you live in CA, call your legislators: This year, Mustang enthusiast and California State Senator Doug LaMalfa introduced a bill to exempt all motor vehicles prior to the 1981 model year from the emissions inspection requirement. Simply put, Senate Bill 1224 seeks to recover some of the ground that was lost in 2004. Already, hundreds (if not thousands) of Californians have responded to the call in support of the measure. S.B. 1224 would provide an exemption for only one-half of one percent of California vehicles on the road today. Hardly an overwhelming number, said SEMA Vice President of Government Affairs Steve McDonald. Not surprisingly, opposition is coming from the states air quality management districts, which argue that this bill increases the burden on regions to meet air quality standards set by state and federal governments. This bills success will certainly make it easier for Californias enthusiasts to enjoy a wider array of classic vehicles, including sports cars and trucks. However, victory would also represent a common sense solution to an unnecessary burden on old car collectors and lower-income citizens. The idea behind exempting any class of vehicles is to reduce costs while not losing appreciable emissions reductions, McDonald added. This strategy builds support for emissions inspection programs, but also directs finite resources to where they will be most valuable in cleaning the air. In light of hard economic times and Californias continued commitment to focusing limited resources where they can be most efficient in creating clean air, S.B. 1224 is a no brainer. At press time, S.B. 1224 had been granted reconsideration after failing to be approved by the Senate Transportation and Housing Committee on a 3-4 vote, with two committee members not voting. The bill will be reconsidered in a future committee hearing. From bspidell at comcast.net Tue May 1 19:22:08 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 18:22:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tires Again In-Reply-To: <20120429080636.Q15UN.170325.root@pamxwww10-z01> References: <20120429080636.Q15UN.170325.root@pamxwww10-z01> Message-ID: <4FA08C40.4050702@comcast.net> Thought I've give a little summary of the input I got on tires. Avons and Dunlops are available, as are Michelin XAS, but I can't find a convenient source and they apparently are mucho expensive. Realistically, Vredestein Sprint Classics--in either 185R or 185/70R are the only practical choice (unless you really want to spend big bucks for the others, if you can find them). Vreds are pretty good, I've run a couple sets with no problems. Heaven help us if Vredestein ever goes out of business or decides not to support the classic car market (FWIW, their brochures have a red 3000 on the cover). Anyone comes across a good new source for these sizes of tires please let us know. Thanks for all the feedback. Bob On 4/29/2012 5:06 AM, Tom Felts wrote: > Didn't know you could still get Avon's. > > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From 57healey at gmail.com Tue May 1 19:34:14 2012 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 20:34:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII - Forza 4 Top Gear May Add-On References: Message-ID: Today an add on to Forza 4 on the XBox 360 was released that included a 1965 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII. I just ran my first lap and recorded a bit of the replay so people could see the graphics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1WkfwPROmU&feature=youtube_gdata_player I had to record this with my iPad, so the video comes out a little dark, but you get the idea. Patton From michael.oritt at gmail.com Tue May 1 20:26:06 2012 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 22:26:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tires Again In-Reply-To: <4FA08C40.4050702@comcast.net> References: <20120429080636.Q15UN.170325.root@pamxwww10-z01> <4FA08C40.4050702@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob-- Not sure which to which Dunlops you are referring but the Avons are available through Sasco Tires and I believe the Michelin XAS's through Coker. Best--Michael Oritt On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Thought I've give a little summary of the input I got on tires. > > Avons and Dunlops are available, as are Michelin XAS, but I can't find a > convenient source and they apparently are mucho expensive. Realistically, > Vredestein Sprint Classics--in either 185R or 185/70R are the only > practical choice (unless you really want to spend big bucks for the others, > if you can find them). Vreds are pretty good, I've run a couple sets with > no problems. > > Heaven help us if Vredestein ever goes out of business or decides not to > support the classic car market (FWIW, their brochures have a red 3000 on > the cover). > > Anyone comes across a good new source for these sizes of tires please let > us know. > > Thanks for all the feedback. > > Bob > > > > On 4/29/2012 5:06 AM, Tom Felts wrote: > >> Didn't know you could still get Avon's. >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > *********************************************************************** > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > *********************************************************************** > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/michael.oritt@**gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Tue May 1 20:28:52 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 19:28:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII - Forza 4 Top Gear May Add-On In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA09BE4.8080708@comcast.net> Cool! Dead ringer for my BJ8, inc. the chrome-tipped exhaust pipes. On 5/1/2012 6:34 PM, Patton Dickson wrote: > Today an add on to Forza 4 on the XBox 360 was released that included a 1965 > Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII. I just ran my first lap and recorded a bit of the > replay so people could see the graphics. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1WkfwPROmU&feature=youtube_gdata_player > > I had to record this with my iPad, so the video comes out a little dark, but > you get the idea. > > Patton > _______________________________________________ > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu Tue May 1 22:00:04 2012 From: cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu (Charlie Frazer) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 21:00:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tires Again In-Reply-To: <4F9C9DE3.9040202@comcast.net> References: <4F9C9DE3.9040202@comcast.net> Message-ID: Is it the consensus of the list that Vreds are not good in the rain? I had the distinct impression I was hydoplaning on a trip through the Olympic Peninsula returning from a meet in Vancouver BC last summer. This was at speeds of 50-60 mph on 3 year-old Vred 165s during heavy rain in the rainforest. Others in the group didn't seem to have the problem. Thanks for comments and observations, Charlie On Apr 28, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: Any ideas for 185/70-R15 or 185R tires? Anything besides Vredestein (they're good tires, just wondering if there's anything else available)? Good sources? TIA, Bob -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu From rjswain at hotmail.com Wed May 2 06:16:28 2012 From: rjswain at hotmail.com (Rick Swain) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 12:16:28 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Tires Again In-Reply-To: References: <4F9C9DE3.9040202@comcast.net>, Message-ID: I seem to drive in the rain a fair bit (I live in the Maritimes in Canada) and haven't noticed any problems with the current Vred Sprint Classics on my BN4, or the older pattern Vreds that I had before these. Rick Swainwww.classicmotorart.cafull-colour drawings of your car > > Is it the consensus of the list that Vreds are not good in the rain? > I had the distinct impression I was hydoplaning on a trip through the > Olympic Peninsula returning from a meet in Vancouver BC last summer. > This was at speeds of 50-60 mph on 3 year-old Vred 165s during heavy > rain in the rainforest. Others in the group didn't seem to have the > problem. > Thanks for comments and observations, > Charlie From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed May 2 06:29:29 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 05:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Not Jon Voight's Healey Message-ID: <1335961769.62224.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Jerry Seinfeld and Ricky Gervais tweeting from a BJ8 http://tinyurl.com/7myyg5z Rest of the story: http://tinyurl.com/77s2v2p Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From healey100m at gmail.com Wed May 2 06:51:17 2012 From: healey100m at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:51:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tires Again In-Reply-To: References: <4F9C9DE3.9040202@comcast.net> Message-ID: <331D5D13-0A32-42BB-A10E-9E79319AF358@gmail.com> I agree with Rick. We have driven across the USA 3 times in the last 5 years, in all kinds of weather. The Vredesteins have done an excellent job. Especially in the wet. We run the 185/70's on the 100's & 185R (/80) on the BJ8. 165 seems to small for me. Randy On May 2, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Rick Swain wrote: > I seem to drive in the rain a fair bit (I live in the Maritimes in Canada) and > haven't noticed any problems with the current Vred Sprint Classics on my BN4, > or the older pattern Vreds that I had before these. > Rick Swainwww.classicmotorart.cafull-colour drawings of your car >> >> Is it the consensus of the list that Vreds are not good in the rain? >> I had the distinct impression I was hydoplaning on a trip through the >> Olympic Peninsula returning from a meet in Vancouver BC last summer. >> This was at speeds of 50-60 mph on 3 year-old Vred 165s during heavy >> rain in the rainforest. Others in the group didn't seem to have the >> problem. >> Thanks for comments and observations, >> Charlie > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at gmail.com From ggilliam at usol.com Wed May 2 07:07:56 2012 From: ggilliam at usol.com (ggilliam at usol.com) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 08:07:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] For Dave Porter Message-ID: Dave, My direct reply to you got kicked back.... Hi Dave, An assortment of muscle cars, street rods, vintage drag racer, midget circle racer, nothing else in the sports car realm. Gordy On 5/01/2012 8:44 PM, David Porter wrote: What else is in his excess collection? If I may ask.. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com From bspidell at comcast.net Wed May 2 07:16:02 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 06:16:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tires Again In-Reply-To: References: <4F9C9DE3.9040202@comcast.net>, Message-ID: <4FA13392.8080007@comcast.net> I think they are competent in the rain. Modern high performance and 'rain' tires have at least one--usually two or more--deep, straight grooves to channel water away from some generally 'slick' tread, with more typical tread patterns on the edges. Also, I imagine the compounding is different; i.e. softer for rain or HP tires. Although I don't think the Sprint Classic is an 'all season' tire--the Sprint+ claims to be--it has that kind of tread pattern and no deep channels for moving water out of the way. My Mustang came with decent BF Goodrich 'all season' tires. They were a disaster in the rain--hydroplaned like crazy--and not very good in the dry. I bought Continental HP tires--with several deep channels--and the difference is night and day in wet and dry. Unfortunately, it looks like I'll only get 15-20K miles on them, but it's worth it. Bob On 5/2/2012 5:16 AM, Rick Swain wrote: > I seem to drive in the rain a fair bit (I live in the Maritimes in Canada) and > haven't noticed any problems with the current Vred Sprint Classics on my BN4, > or the older pattern Vreds that I had before these. > Rick Swainwww.classicmotorart.cafull-colour drawings of your car >> Is it the consensus of the list that Vreds are not good in the rain? >> I had the distinct impression I was hydoplaning on a trip through the >> Olympic Peninsula returning from a meet in Vancouver BC last summer. >> This was at speeds of 50-60 mph on 3 year-old Vred 165s during heavy >> rain in the rainforest. Others in the group didn't seem to have the >> problem. >> Thanks for comments and observations, >> Charlie > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bighealey at charter.net Wed May 2 07:35:48 2012 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 06:35:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII - Forza 4 Top Gear May Add-On In-Reply-To: <4FA09BE4.8080708@comcast.net> References: <4FA09BE4.8080708@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005101cd2868$7ca5c180$75f14480$@charter.net> Patton, Good stuff. I need to get this game now. I have been playing F1 2011 pretty seriously and before that GRID and F1 2010. If you like racing particularly on line against like-minded enthusiasts you gotta try F1 2011. In Sept they release F1 2012 Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond On 5/1/2012 6:34 PM, Patton Dickson wrote: > Today an add on to Forza 4 on the XBox 360 was released that included > a 1965 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII. I just ran my first lap and recorded > a bit of the replay so people could see the graphics. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1WkfwPROmU&feature=youtube_gdata_played d From kags at shaw.ca Wed May 2 08:23:45 2012 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 07:23:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tires Again In-Reply-To: References: <4F9C9DE3.9040202@comcast.net> Message-ID: Charlie: I run Vred 185/70 15's, and one of the things that I like best about them is the rain performance, in my opinion, especially compared to the Mich ZX's that I replaced. Bear in mind that I live very close to the 'rainforest' - within sight of the Olympic Peninsula (but not the real rainy parts). I think most people run too high a pressure in their Healeys - I run relatively low pressure - don't want to start another 'big thing' on the list. I think pressure probably has a lot to do with how the tires feel in the wet. The only tires that came close to them in the wet are the old Michelin XAS's, which haven't been available for a long, long time, probably 25 years or so. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Frazer Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:00 PM To: Bob Spidell Cc: healeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires Again Is it the consensus of the list that Vreds are not good in the rain? I had the distinct impression I was hydoplaning on a trip through the Olympic Peninsula returning from a meet in Vancouver BC last summer. This was at speeds of 50-60 mph on 3 year-old Vred 165s during heavy rain in the rainforest. Others in the group didn't seem to have the problem. Thanks for comments and observations, Charlie On Apr 28, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: Any ideas for 185/70-R15 or 185R tires? Anything besides Vredestein (they're good tires, just wondering if there's anything else available)? Good sources? TIA, Bob From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Wed May 2 08:27:46 2012 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:27:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] jacks In-Reply-To: <005101cd27e1$79bbfb60$6d33f220$@midwestarchaeology.com> References: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> <1D384BC4FDDC4F79AFF286F47AC31016@KagsLaptop> <005101cd27e1$79bbfb60$6d33f220$@midwestarchaeology.com> Message-ID: Randy, et al, getting outbid in the closing seconds used to be a problem for us as well. Then my wife discovered Bidnip. This allows you to put in your top bid well before the end of the auction and time when said bid is to be released. Has worked on many occasions, but obviously not all, to get items we wanted without sitting by the computer trying to get that last bid in. Just an FYI for those not familiar with it. NFI, etc. Bob Johnson BJ8 From 57healey at gmail.com Wed May 2 08:31:13 2012 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 09:31:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII - Forza 4 Top Gear May Add-On In-Reply-To: <005101cd2868$7ca5c180$75f14480$@charter.net> References: <4FA09BE4.8080708@comcast.net> <005101cd2868$7ca5c180$75f14480$@charter.net> Message-ID: Its rare when I buy a game when it first comes out, and this is the first time I have ever bought an add-on, but Forza 4 is reason enough to buy an XBox 360. I hope F1 2012 has the Austin Track I let my XBox gold account lapse, but head to head Healey racing my be worth the $40 a year I ran 4 tracks last night, pretty fun. I got it up to 128MPH on the Le Mans Old Mulsanne Circuit. Patton Sent from my iPad On May 2, 2012, at 8:35 AM, "Tracy Drummond" wrote: > Patton, > > Good stuff. I need to get this game now. I have been playing F1 2011 > pretty seriously and before that GRID and F1 2010. > > If you like racing particularly on line against like-minded enthusiasts you > gotta try F1 2011. In Sept they release F1 2012 > > Warm Regards, > > Tracy Drummond From bighealey at charter.net Wed May 2 08:52:10 2012 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 07:52:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII - Forza 4 Top Gear May Add-On In-Reply-To: References: <4FA09BE4.8080708@comcast.net> <005101cd2868$7ca5c180$75f14480$@charter.net> Message-ID: <000601cd2873$27bb7880$77326980$@charter.net> On the Old Circuit without Chicanes? I heard Dan Gurney talk about some pilots having a cigarette on the Mulsanne straights before the chicanes were added. You need a 5.565 gearset installed (grin) OK I may just go to gamestop today. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: Patton Dickson [mailto:57healey at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:31 AM To: Tracy Drummond Cc: Bob Spidell; Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII - Forza 4 Top Gear May Add-On Its rare when I buy a game when it first comes out, and this is the first time I have ever bought an add-on, but Forza 4 is reason enough to buy an XBox 360. I hope F1 2012 has the Austin Track I let my XBox gold account lapse, but head to head Healey racing my be worth the $40 a year I ran 4 tracks last night, pretty fun. I got it up to 128MPH on the Le Mans Old Mulsanne Circuit. Patton Sent from my iPad On May 2, 2012, at 8:35 AM, "Tracy Drummond" wrote: > Patton, > > Good stuff. I need to get this game now. I have been playing F1 2011 > pretty seriously and before that GRID and F1 2010. > > If you like racing particularly on line against like-minded > enthusiasts you gotta try F1 2011. In Sept they release F1 2012 > > Warm Regards, > > Tracy Drummond From 57healey at gmail.com Wed May 2 09:00:21 2012 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:00:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII - Forza 4 Top Gear May Add-On In-Reply-To: <000601cd2873$27bb7880$77326980$@charter.net> References: <4FA09BE4.8080708@comcast.net> <005101cd2868$7ca5c180$75f14480$@charter.net> <000601cd2873$27bb7880$77326980$@charter.net> Message-ID: Yes, it's at least 3 miles wide open... It has setup, I may be able to change gear sets, I have been driving with the standard setups Sent from my iPad On May 2, 2012, at 9:52 AM, "Tracy Drummond" wrote: > On the Old Circuit without Chicanes? I heard Dan Gurney talk about some > pilots having a cigarette on the Mulsanne straights before the chicanes were > added. > > You need a 5.565 gearset installed (grin) > > OK I may just go to gamestop today. > > Warm Regards, > > Tracy Drummond From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Wed May 2 09:04:07 2012 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:04:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] jacks In-Reply-To: References: <0AC7EA9D736648BBA4789106F2C8DC80@HPp6520f> <1D384BC4FDDC4F79AFF286F47AC31016@KagsLaptop> <005101cd27e1$79bbfb60$6d33f220$@midwestarchaeology.com> Message-ID: If you just put in what you are truly willing to pay at ebay itself you'll either win or you won't based on that number. I never understood the sniping thing. But then, i also hate auctions. On 5/2/12, Bob Johnson wrote: > Randy, et al, > > getting outbid in the closing seconds used to be a problem for us as well. > Then my wife discovered Bidnip. This allows you to put in your top bid well > before the end of the auction and time when said bid is to be released. Has > worked on many occasions, but obviously not all, to get items we wanted > without sitting by the computer trying to get that last bid in. Just an FYI > for those not familiar with it. NFI, etc. > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jodyfkerr at gmail.com > > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 1970 MG MGB 1980 Triumph TR7 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed May 2 09:07:19 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Tires Again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1335971239.17265.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Earl, XASs are still available from Coker Tire here: http://www.cokertire.com/165hr15-michelin-xas.html but at $295 each are too rich for my blood. They're a great tire with good grip and very predictable. I just had to replace a set on my bugeye that were too old to by trusted and shed a tear when they went to the discard pile. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 5/2/12, Earl Kagna wrote: From: Earl Kagna Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires Again To: "Charlie Frazer" , "Bob Spidell" Cc: "healeylist" Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 10:23 AM Charlie: I run Vred 185/70 15's, and one of the things that I like best about them is the rain performance, in my opinion, especially compared to the Mich ZX's that I replaced. Bear in mind that I live very close to the 'rainforest' - within sight of the Olympic Peninsula (but not the real rainy parts). I think most people run too high a pressure in their Healeys - I run relatively low pressure - don't want to start another 'big thing' on the list. I think pressure probably has a lot to do with how the tires feel in the wet. The only tires that came close to them in the wet are the old Michelin XAS's, which haven't been available for a long, long time, probably 25 years or so. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 2 09:32:24 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 10:32:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] The ULTIMATE................. Message-ID: <4FA15388.7060707@justbrits.com> .........Frogeye (finished, that is !) HAULER ! ! ! ! ! ! ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-bkq0CSzjQ&feature=related Wonder if a Big Healey (my Hortense ) would fit ?!? Ed From kags at shaw.ca Wed May 2 09:33:56 2012 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:33:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tires Again In-Reply-To: <1335971239.17265.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1335971239.17265.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah Rick, but not in the 175 size, which was / is much better on a Healey b also, way too expensive for a normal road car, at least for me. Thatbs why I came to the conclusion b at least for me b the Vredbs are the best compromise Meaning theybre great, except for the bvintageb look b big thing for me is that the diameter is right. Earl From: HealeyRick Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:07 AM To: Charlie Frazer ; Bob Spidell ; Earl Kagna Cc: healeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires Again Earl, XASs are still available from Coker Tire here: http://www.cokertire.com/165hr15-michelin-xas.html but at $295 each are too rich for my blood. They're a great tire with good grip and very predictable. I just had to replace a set on my bugeye that were too old to by trusted and shed a tear when they went to the discard pile. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 5/2/12, Earl Kagna wrote: From: Earl Kagna Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires Again To: "Charlie Frazer" , "Bob Spidell" Cc: "healeylist" Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 10:23 AM Charlie: I run Vred 185/70 15's, and one of the things that I like best about them is the rain performance, in my opinion, especially compared to the Mich ZX's that I replaced. Bear in mind that I live very close to the 'rainforest' - within sight of the Olympic Peninsula (but not the real rainy parts). I think most people run too high a pressure in their Healeys - I run relatively low pressure - don't want to start another 'big thing' on the list. I think pressure probably has a lot to do with how the tires feel in the wet. The only tires that came close to them in the wet are the old Michelin XAS's, which haven't been available for a long, long time, probably 25 years or so. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb From austin.healey at gmail.com Wed May 2 09:43:50 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 01:43:50 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Not Jon Voight's Healey In-Reply-To: <1335961769.62224.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1335961769.62224.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <020153AC-C40B-4F77-92F6-DCEB972E0396@gmail.com> Awesome Rick! How good is that! Thanks for sharing. Best. Chris Sent from my iPhone On 02/05/2012, at 10:29 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Jerry Seinfeld and Ricky Gervais tweeting from a BJ8 > http://tinyurl.com/7myyg5z > > > Rest of the story: > > http://tinyurl.com/77s2v2p > > Rick From austin.healey at gmail.com Wed May 2 11:27:42 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 03:27:42 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] The ULTIMATE................. In-Reply-To: <4FA15388.7060707@justbrits.com> References: <4FA15388.7060707@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <1F61FC7B-84E8-43CD-89F9-A501B78CDC25@gmail.com> Ed. Awesome BUS!! Didn't even see a TOWBAR But geez. I was at least expecting a team woopass guy to back a bugeye off a trailer !! ;-! What are those totally American polished alloy motor home things from the 1950's/ early '60's called?? One day, I'll get one of those. And fly to the US. One of them - big polished rigs. With a matching trailer. Route 66. Black and white car on the back. See all you guys. zzzzz hazzz zzzzzz arrzzzz Just need one more thing. Oh. Yeah. I need to both wake up, and I need win the lottery!! Sent from my iPhone From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Wed May 2 13:04:10 2012 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 12:04:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tires Again In-Reply-To: References: <4F9C9DE3.9040202@comcast.net>, Message-ID: Well, I disagree with that. I Live in Lake Tahoe and we get our share of rain and snow. I've had no problems in the rare occasion I get caught coming home in the poor weather. I never go out of my way to put the Healey in wet wather due ton rust. They actually do well in snow not being a mud/snow tire. Rich Kahn > From: cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu > To: bspidell at comcast.net > Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 21:00:04 -0700 > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires Again > > Is it the consensus of the list that Vreds are not good in the rain? > I had the distinct impression I was hydoplaning on a trip through the > Olympic Peninsula returning from a meet in Vancouver BC last summer. > This was at speeds of 50-60 mph on 3 year-old Vred 165s during heavy > rain in the rainforest. Others in the group didn't seem to have the > problem. > Thanks for comments and observations, > Charlie > > On Apr 28, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > Any ideas for 185/70-R15 or 185R tires? Anything besides Vredestein > (they're good tires, just wondering if there's anything else available)? > > Good sources? > > TIA, > Bob > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From kentmclean at comcast.net Wed May 2 13:21:52 2012 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 15:21:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] The ULTIMATE................. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA18950.1050001@comcast.net> Just Brits wrote: > .........Frogeye (finished, that is !) HAULER ! ! ! ! ! ! ! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-bkq0CSzjQ&feature=related > > Wonder if a Big Healey (my Hortense) would fit ?!? Blastolene sounded familiar. Then I remembered Big Bertha. Now *that's* a two-seater. Although I'd take the DecoLiner. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From eyera3000 at gmail.com Wed May 2 15:32:49 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 14:32:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] The ULTIMATE................. In-Reply-To: <4FA18950.1050001@comcast.net> References: <4FA18950.1050001@comcast.net> Message-ID: Grants Pass is about 4 hours south of Portland, guess I need to take a road trip.... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR On May 2, 2012 12:21 PM, "Kent McLean" wrote: > Just Brits wrote: > >> .........Frogeye (finished, that is !) HAULER ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=L-bkq0CSzjQ&feature=related >> >> Wonder if a Big Healey (my Hortense) would fit ?!? >> > > Blastolene sounded familiar. Then I remembered Big Bertha. > > > > > > Now *that's* a two-seater. Although I'd take the DecoLiner. > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/eyera3000@**gmail.com From jwhlyadv at aol.com Wed May 2 17:25:13 2012 From: jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jim Werner) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 19:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Just 45 days to Conclave Louisville! Message-ID: <8CEF6D1F5752B57-8D4-245D0@webmail-m036.sysops.aol.com> Just 45 days to Conclave Louisville! Ben Moore and his staff have put together a Fun and Exciting event for all Healey Enthusiasts. As you watch the Kentucky Derby this weekend envision that you will be on Millionaires Row in June! A great Car Show location at the Waterfront Park awaits you. A fun Rally, Funkhana, Gymkhana and plenty of relaxing social activities to make your visit to Conclave a memorable experience. Join us in Louisville in June. For more information visit http://www.2012conclave.com/ Regalia pre-orders, with a choice of over 30 colors, are due by May 15. The Hotel special rate and room block requires a reservation be made by May 15. Don't delay, register today! Jim Werner Bluegrass Austin Healey Club Louisville, KY From lostboys65 at yahoo.com Wed May 2 17:32:47 2012 From: lostboys65 at yahoo.com (John Roesle) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 16:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] The ULTIMATE................. Message-ID: <1336001567.47281.androidMobile@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Airstream. o?< Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From steveg at abrazosdata.com Wed May 2 18:33:50 2012 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve Gerow) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:33:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Excellent Moss Motors part Message-ID: <055201cd28c4$6bd95a40$438c0ec0$@com> I had bought replacement side screen rubbers from one of the UK suppliers one of which arrived rotten and full of cracks. In addition, the angle between the vertical and horizontal components was too great - approximately 45 degrees vs the side curtain itself which is about 30 degrees from vertical. I ordered replacements from Moss and the angle on their part matches that of the side screen. This should reduce the strain on the rubber at the juncture between the two components. Kudos to Moss! -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA, USA BN6 From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed May 2 19:15:42 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:15:42 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Boot Photo Message-ID: G'day I am on the search for a photo of an open boot (trunk) that's full of luggage, spares etc as if the car (and owners) is about to go on a trip. Would anyone have one in high resolution they can send me please? Many thanks Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu May 3 07:29:40 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 09:29:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Early BN1 alloy door trims Message-ID: Oh wise ones, I'm looking for a set of hens teeth.. Early 100s had alloy door trims made from aluminum sheet with a pattern of elliptical rather than round impressions. Does anyone know if this material is available? -- Michael Salter I have BJ8 Water Pump Rebuild Kits From amalin at mac.com Thu May 3 09:33:53 2012 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 11:33:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Reattaching hood to front bow Message-ID: About 6 inches at one end of the hood is pulled away from the bow. The hood was attached to the bow with 3/8 inch staples. When reattaching, should an adhesive be used in addition to the staples? If so, which adhesive is recommended. Al Malin Tricarb From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu May 3 10:47:39 2012 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 09:47:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Reattaching hood to front bow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <66E82386-FEA7-434B-94A9-D99DDABA42C1@sbcglobal.net> Tops are attached to the header rail with staples and then they are covered up by the hidum strip and it is also stapled in place. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On May 3, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Al Malin wrote: > About 6 inches at one end of the hood is pulled away from the bow. > The hood was attached to the bow with 3/8 inch staples. > > When reattaching, should an adhesive be used in addition to the > staples? If so, which adhesive is recommended. > > Al Malin > Tricarb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu May 3 13:19:54 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 15:19:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Early BN1 alloy door trims In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601cd2961$bc906a80$35b13f80$@net> Nobody makes the elliptical embossing as far as I know but Kilmartin's alloy shut trims are the best and most accurate I've ever found. They do the correct recess in the striker plate area, and while on that topic, they are manufacturing the early narrow striker plate. RICH -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: May-03-12 9:30 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Early BN1 alloy door trims Oh wise ones, I'm looking for a set of hens teeth.. Early 100s had alloy door trims made from aluminum sheet with a pattern of elliptical rather than round impressions. Does anyone know if this material is available? -- Michael Salter I have BJ8 Water Pump Rebuild Kits $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu May 3 14:51:43 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:51:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Early BN1 alloy door trims In-Reply-To: <4FA2ED09.5070408@cosmos.net.au> References: <4FA2ED09.5070408@cosmos.net.au> Message-ID: Hi Larry, I've contacted John and although they have the standard round pattern trims they cannot get material for the elliptical pattern. I'm working on a plan to produce a small quantity of the material but it is going to be a little costly!! I want to find a sample of the original to work from. Unfortunately I tend to become a little anal about these things but...there is only 1 "RIGHT" -- Michael Salter I have BJ8 water pump kits On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Larry Varley wrote: > Hi Mike, it may be worth a call to Greg at Kilmartins, in fact I have to > call him today about my chassis, so I'll check for you. > Cheers > Larry > > > On 3/05/2012 11:29 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > >> Oh wise ones, >> I'm looking for a set of hens teeth.. >> Early 100s had alloy door trims made from aluminum sheet with a pattern of >> elliptical rather than round impressions. >> Does anyone know if this material is available? From edic at tampabay.rr.com Fri May 4 11:44:08 2012 From: edic at tampabay.rr.com (edic at tampabay.rr.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 13:44:08 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: [Healeys] David Lambert Message-ID: <4FA41568.000003.04252@MEL-HP> Would someone forward to me David Lambert's email address. Thanks and reply off line. Mel Brunet [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of untitled-1.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of butterflies3_hyper+btn.gif] From HealeyHundred at comcast.net Fri May 4 13:23:08 2012 From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net (Richard Gordon) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 13:23:08 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 1957 Morris Traveler for sale Message-ID: <0D057847-358D-4B9F-AA63-9326F756B277@comcast.net> Hi Gang, A friend is going to part with his 1957 Morris Traveler. The English Woody! 1098cc engine with about 50,000 miles, runs strong. Front Disc Brakes. Front seat belts. Radio. Spare parts. New paint 2011! A solid #2 If interested phone Brian Serff at 303-750-5746 or email him at brian at brianserff.com. Thanks, Richard From gbrierton at hotmail.com Fri May 4 18:47:43 2012 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (Gary R. Brierton) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 20:47:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] DriveAwayCancer Message-ID: Just spent a terrific two hours with John Nikas and bGraceb at Allen Hendricks shop in Greensboro (HendrixWireWheel). Allen btook all of the shake outb of Grace, so now Johnbs fillings wonbt be jarred out of his mouth! A split fuel line and other repairs were done. The stories John shared with us were heartbreaking & inspiring, all at once. Many people, touched by cancer, are gaining a measure of peace and being up-lifted by the little car that could and her gallant rider. Several Triad AHCA members signed Grace in remembrance of loved ones. Ibm saving my signatures until Wanda and I together meet up with Grace at Conclave Louisville. John is one of the nicest men Ibve come across, and he and Grace deserve as much support as we can give. Please follow their journey through 50 states at http://cc.ebay.com/drive-away-cancer/ and/or on facebook. I say, through a little cash in the kitty as well. Gary Brierton AHCA Prez b67 BJ8 aka the Silver Bullet From bspidell at comcast.net Fri May 4 21:20:32 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 20:20:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tires Again In-Reply-To: References: <4F9C9DE3.9040202@comcast.net>, Message-ID: <4FA49C80.4050604@comcast.net> Best price I found on Vredestein 185/70-15s was from Euro Tire in NJ (www.eurotire.com), thanks to a tip from a Lister. They were $119ea and even with a little over $30ea shipping to CA they beat the package from Summit advertised on eBay--with 'free' shipping--by over $85 total. They were supposedly manufactured this year. I mentioned to the guy at Euro that Vreds are, realistically, the only choice in this and other sizes (Avons, Dunlops and Michelin are very expensive if they can be found at all). I mentioned that we'll basically be screwed for tires if Vredestein ever quits the business; the guy at Euro said the managing director at Vredestein is a 'Healey Guy.' That probably explains the red BJ8 on their brochures. Thanks for the feedback everybody. Bob On 5/2/2012 5:16 AM, Rick Swain wrote: > I seem to drive in the rain a fair bit (I live in the Maritimes in Canada) and > haven't noticed any problems with the current Vred Sprint Classics on my BN4, > or the older pattern Vreds that I had before these. > Rick Swainwww.classicmotorart.cafull-colour drawings of your car >> >> >> -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sat May 5 12:25:04 2012 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 19:25:04 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] "Moving coil voltmeter" Message-ID: <000001cd2aec$64471180$2cd53480$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> I may have a charging issue with my 3000. The fan belt could be tighter and that'll be my first adjustment. Thereafter.... Well, the BMC book, Section N, makes reference to testing with a "moving coil voltmeter". Am I correct in my hope and supposition that this is an old fashioned meter with a needle? (Like the one I've had for the last 20 years). Yes, I do know that the book dates back to the early 60s so digital meters weren't around(?), but I don't know what else was around then. Certainly, I was around but I thought then that all meters were the same ie with a needle and presumably a coil...? A "moving" coil?? Any advice would be appreciated. Simon From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Sat May 5 12:58:37 2012 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 11:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Newburgh Austin Healey Dealer Message-ID: <1336244317.56269.BPMail_high_carrier@web130204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Listers, Today I located the site of the former Austin Healey dealership, Ketterson Motors, 89 Chambers St, in Newburgh NY. Ketterson was also the local Studabaker dealer. It's now a postal truck facility. If this is relavent to anyones archives let me know and I can send a photo as it looks today. Best JK From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sat May 5 15:37:05 2012 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve Gerow) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 14:37:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement side screen plexiglas install question Message-ID: <057201cd2b07$3a073a10$ae15ae30$@com> Have got my weatherstrips installed on my sidescreens - thanks to those who helped with that. Now have to replace a broken Plexiglas panel - do the panels need to be heated in sunlight or hot water to help them flex enough to install in the channels? Has anyone ever tried freezing them to shrink them? -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA, USA BN6 From bspidell at comcast.net Sat May 5 18:07:46 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 00:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] "Moving coil voltmeter" In-Reply-To: <000001cd2aec$64471180$2cd53480$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <737423345.19015.1336262866729.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> My immediate answer is yes, moving coil is the 'old style' analog voltmeter, but why would they specify 'moving coil?' So I checked Wikipedia to be sure. Some older analog voltmeters had vacuum-tube or FET amps to boost the signal to the moving coil, and probably to increase input impedance. My guess is they specified 'moving coil' to distinguish from the pre-amped type. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- I may have a charging issue with my 3000. The fan belt could be tighter and that'll be my first adjustment. Thereafter.... Well, the BMC book, Section N, makes reference to testing with a "moving coil voltmeter". Am I correct in my hope and supposition that this is an old fashioned meter with a needle? (Like the one I've had for the last 20 years). Yes, I do know that the book dates back to the early 60s so digital meters weren't around(?), but I don't know what else was around then. Certainly, I was around but I thought then that all meters were the same ie with a needle and presumably a coil...? A "moving" coil?? Any advice would be appreciated. Simon From ktee20 at gmail.com Sat May 5 21:43:50 2012 From: ktee20 at gmail.com (keith taylor) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 13:43:50 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] 100/4 with single Weber carb In-Reply-To: <4F9F9AE3.7080908@westnet.com.au> References: <4F9F9AE3.7080908@westnet.com.au> Message-ID: Hi John Mark Ingham in Yea Victoria has a race BN1 (still racing) with a single Weber his phone No is 03 5797 2707 Keith Taylor Wamberal On 1 May 2012 18:12, John Rowe wrote: > Hi all > > Does anyone have any experience with a single Weber (45 DCOE) on a 100/4. > > There is very little information in my Weber books. > > We're looking for a good starting point for jets etc > > regards > > John Rowe > Western Australia > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/ktee20 at gmail.**com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Sun May 6 04:14:17 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 11:14:17 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Donington Classic Race Weekend - Photos of amazing cars including Healeys Message-ID: Petrolheads, Yesterday I was at Donington for the classic race meeting. This is one of the top events in Europe with all the top dollar racers and cars including Group C monsters. There were about 6 Healeys racing including a couple of 100S's and the Record car that was built by Jeremy Welch. Re the recent thread on tyres, Avon are very much alive and well and they had their works support truck in attendence and there is a photo of a technician hand cutting treads for wet tyres. The red Aston Martin Ulster number 38 is being driven by a lady and she was in 5th place until the car developped a misfire. No rollbars or seat belts! Check out the photos here http://s1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj530/derekcjob/Donington/ Derek www.healeysix.net From bluehealey at gmail.com Sun May 6 09:23:53 2012 From: bluehealey at gmail.com (Blue Healey) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 16:23:53 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Donington Classic Race Weekend - Photos of amazing cars including Healeys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4349D6D872624BFD9CF3B9381829BA3A@homea4680ad9cc> Thanks for sharing Derek. You're keen - it was bloody cold out there! _____________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) (______ \____1957-BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) http://tinyurl.com/healeyforum -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Derek Job Sent: 06 May 2012 11:14 To: Forum Subject: [Healeys] Donington Classic Race Weekend - Photos of amazing cars including Healeys Petrolheads, Yesterday I was at Donington for the classic race meeting. This is one of the top events in Europe with all the top dollar racers and cars including Group C monsters. There were about 6 Healeys racing including a couple of 100S's and the Record car that was built by Jeremy Welch. Re the recent thread on tyres, Avon are very much alive and well and they had their works support truck in attendence and there is a photo of a technician hand cutting treads for wet tyres. The red Aston Martin Ulster number 38 is being driven by a lady and she was in 5th place until the car developped a misfire. No rollbars or seat belts! Check out the photos here http://s1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj530/derekcjob/Donington/ Derek www.healeysix.net $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bluehealey at gmail.com From edriver at sasktel.net Sun May 6 12:36:08 2012 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E. A. Driver) Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 12:36:08 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Donington Classic Race Weekend - Photos of amazing cars including Healeys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA6C498.3050603@sasktel.net> Hi Derek Super to see closeups of Group C cars, I certainly will not see them at the Saskatoon Stock Car track but with your photos and my collection of 1/32 scale slot cars can continue to enjoy this series. Just another great old British track with an interesting history. Many thanks Derek for the opportunity to enjoy the cars through your photos! Cheers Ed Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Historian, AHCUSA Derek Job wrote: > Petrolheads, > > Yesterday I was at Donington for the classic race meeting. This is one of > the top events in Europe with all the top dollar racers and cars including > Group C monsters. There were about 6 Healeys racing including a couple of > 100S's and the Record car that was built by Jeremy Welch. > > Re the recent thread on tyres, Avon are very much alive and well and they > had their works support truck in attendence and there is a photo of a > technician hand cutting treads for wet tyres. The red Aston Martin Ulster > number 38 is being driven by a lady and she was in 5th place until the car > developped a misfire. No rollbars or seat belts! > > Check out the photos here > > http://s1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj530/derekcjob/Donington/ > > Derek > www.healeysix.net > _______________________________________________ From Healey100M at gmail.com Sun May 6 14:07:58 2012 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 16:07:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? Message-ID: Hi, can anyone tell me what Healey 100 this distributor (#40320) would be appropriate for? TIA. From austin.healey at gmail.com Sun May 6 16:21:02 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 08:21:02 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63946660-1229-4DAD-9EC3-93A49C1A97B7@gmail.com> 100's prior to chassis 230361, and A90 atlantics. Best Chris Sent from my iPhone On 07/05/2012, at 6:07 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: > Hi, can anyone tell me what Healey 100 this distributor (#40320) would be > appropriate for? > > TIA. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com From cynicbass at gmail.com Sun May 6 16:36:18 2012 From: cynicbass at gmail.com (Richard Korn) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 22:36:18 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <452A677B-E17D-4A4F-9D27-9613350B2073@gmail.com> Randy, Don't see it mentioned in the concours guidelines but according to the Moment Anderson book,the 40320 was used on the 100 til jan.56 at C/E 230361 when it was changed for #40495. this is the standard 100 not the M. very best regards, Richard On May 6, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Randy Hicks wrote: > Hi, can anyone tell me what Healey 100 this distributor (#40320) would be > appropriate for? > > TIA. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cynicbass at gmail.com From MBran89793 at aol.com Sun May 6 16:40:36 2012 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 18:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? Message-ID: <251f1.314f600b.3cd857e4@aol.com> FWIW The Moss catalog shows that the Lucas#40320 distributor to be for BN1,BN2 to C.E. 230360. Marion Brantley In a message dated 5/6/2012 5:43:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Healey100M at gmail.com writes: Hi, can anyone tell me what Healey 100 this distributor (#40320) would be appropriate for? TIA. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mbran89793 at aol.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun May 6 17:26:58 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (healey.nut at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 23:26:58 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? In-Reply-To: <63946660-1229-4DAD-9EC3-93A49C1A97B7@gmail.com> References: <63946660-1229-4DAD-9EC3-93A49C1A97B7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Atlantics used a different dizzy altogether. Not the best unit - the main housing was split between the lower shaft housing and the upper contact housing. The interference fit between the two was prone to wear, causing housing wobble similar to shaft wobble. A finicky and unreliable unit on many levels.... Sent by BlackBerry. from PCCW mobile -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dimmock Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 7 May 2012 08:21:02 To: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? 100's prior to chassis 230361, and A90 atlantics. Best Chris Sent from my iPhone On 07/05/2012, at 6:07 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: > Hi, can anyone tell me what Healey 100 this distributor (#40320) would be > appropriate for? > > TIA. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sun May 6 17:37:51 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 16:37:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? In-Reply-To: <63946660-1229-4DAD-9EC3-93A49C1A97B7@gmail.com> References: <63946660-1229-4DAD-9EC3-93A49C1A97B7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Randy, Chris is correct. To expand a bit further since you own a 100M... Prior to chassis 230361 - Part No. 40320A/B Standard BN1/2 , Vacuum Advance # 420006 Prior to chassis 230361 - Part No.40422B 100M/Le Mans , Vacuum Advance # 420755 Chassis 230362 and later - Part No.40495A Standard BN2 , Vacuum Advance # 54411727 Chassis 230362 and later - Part No.40520A 100M/Le Mans , Vacuum Advance # 54411233 Cheers, Curt On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Chris Dimmock wrote: 100's prior to chassis 230361, and A90 atlantics. Best Chris Sent from my iPhone On 07/05/2012, at 6:07 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: > Hi, can anyone tell me what Healey 100 this distributor (#40320) would be > appropriate for? > > TIA. From austin.healey at gmail.com Sun May 6 21:45:52 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 13:45:52 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? In-Reply-To: <205696521-1336346814-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1340927716-@b27.c3.bise3.blackberry> References: <63946660-1229-4DAD-9EC3-93A49C1A97B7@gmail.com> <205696521-1336346814-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1340927716-@b27.c3.bise3.blackberry> Message-ID: <5EA2EF7A-DCD0-416A-A137-38D1F1E2C600@gmail.com> http://www.a90atlantic.com/index.php/technical-info-s Click on distributor. On A90 Atlantic the DM2 40320 was fitted from May 1951. Clamp had 1 bolt not 2. Yes, earlier production of A90 Atlantic was different. Best Chris Sent from my iPhone On 07/05/2012, at 9:26 AM, healey.nut at gmail.com wrote: > Atlantics used a different dizzy altogether. Not the best unit - the main housing was split between the lower shaft housing and the upper contact housing. The interference fit between the two was prone to wear, causing housing wobble similar to shaft wobble. A finicky and unreliable unit on many levels.... > > > > > Sent by BlackBerryB. from PCCW mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Dimmock > Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 7 May 2012 08:21:02 > To: Randy Hicks > Cc: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? > > 100's prior to chassis 230361, and A90 atlantics. > Best > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 07/05/2012, at 6:07 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: > >> Hi, can anyone tell me what Healey 100 this distributor (#40320) would be >> appropriate for? >> >> TIA. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Sun May 6 22:12:41 2012 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 04:12:41 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Donington Classic Race Weekend - Photos of amazing cars including Healeys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Many thanks Derek for sharing these with the groups. Great photos from a major meet. Jean Caron > Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 11:14:17 +0100 > From: derek.c.job at gmail.com > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Donington Classic Race Weekend - Photos of amazing cars including Healeys > > Petrolheads, > > Yesterday I was at Donington for the classic race meeting. This is one of > the top events in Europe with all the top dollar racers and cars including > Group C monsters. There were about 6 Healeys racing including a couple of > 100S's and the Record car that was built by Jeremy Welch. > > Re the recent thread on tyres, Avon are very much alive and well and they > had their works support truck in attendence and there is a photo of a > technician hand cutting treads for wet tyres. The red Aston Martin Ulster > number 38 is being driven by a lady and she was in 5th place until the car > developped a misfire. No rollbars or seat belts! > > Check out the photos here > > http://s1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj530/derekcjob/Donington/ > > Derek > www.healeysix.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/vintage_roadster_restoration at ho tmail.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon May 7 01:57:25 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 15:57:25 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? In-Reply-To: <5EA2EF7A-DCD0-416A-A137-38D1F1E2C600@gmail.com> References: <63946660-1229-4DAD-9EC3-93A49C1A97B7@gmail.com> <205696521-1336346814-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1340927716-@b27.c3.bise3.blackberry> <5EA2EF7A-DCD0-416A-A137-38D1F1E2C600@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hmm weird. My Saloon was made on or around August '51 and it had the old DVX4 dizzy on it.... but who knows. On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > http://www.a90atlantic.com/index.php/technical-info-s > Click on distributor. > On A90 Atlantic the DM2 40320 was fitted from May 1951. Clamp had 1 bolt > not 2. > Yes, earlier production of A90 Atlantic was different. > Best > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 07/05/2012, at 9:26 AM, healey.nut at gmail.com wrote: > > > Atlantics used a different dizzy altogether. Not the best unit - the > main housing was split between the lower shaft housing and the upper > contact housing. The interference fit between the two was prone to wear, > causing housing wobble similar to shaft wobble. A finicky and unreliable > unit on many levels.... > > > > > > > > > > Sent by BlackBerry. from PCCW mobile > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Dimmock > > Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 7 May 2012 08:21:02 > > To: Randy Hicks > > Cc: Healey List > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? > > > > 100's prior to chassis 230361, and A90 atlantics. > > Best > > Chris > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 07/05/2012, at 6:07 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: > > > >> Hi, can anyone tell me what Healey 100 this distributor (#40320) would > be > >> appropriate for? > >> > >> TIA. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >> > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From austin.healey at gmail.com Mon May 7 09:20:24 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 01:20:24 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? In-Reply-To: References: <63946660-1229-4DAD-9EC3-93A49C1A97B7@gmail.com> <205696521-1336346814-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1340927716-@b27.c3.bise3.blackberry> <5EA2EF7A-DCD0-416A-A137-38D1F1E2C600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3786C683-D30B-4A9B-A52D-D0937FBA21E2@gmail.com> http://www.a90atlantic.com/index.php/technical-info-s Click on distributor. On A90 Atlantic the DM2 40320 was fitted from May 1951. Clamp had 1 bolt not 2. Yes, earlier production of A90 Atlantic was different. Best Chris Sent from my iPhone On 07/05/2012, at 5:57 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Hmm weird. My Saloon was made on or around August '51 and it had the old DVX4 dizzy on it.... but who knows. > > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > http://www.a90atlantic.com/index.php/technical-info-s > Click on distributor. > On A90 Atlantic the DM2 40320 was fitted from May 1951. Clamp had 1 bolt not 2. > Yes, earlier production of A90 Atlantic was different. > Best > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 07/05/2012, at 9:26 AM, healey.nut at gmail.com wrote: > > > Atlantics used a different dizzy altogether. Not the best unit - the main housing was split between the lower shaft housing and the upper contact housing. The interference fit between the two was prone to wear, causing housing wobble similar to shaft wobble. A finicky and unreliable unit on many levels.... > > Sent by BlackBerryB. from PCCW mobile > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Dimmock > > Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 7 May 2012 08:21:02 > > To: Randy Hicks > > Cc: Healey List > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? > > > > 100's prior to chassis 230361, and A90 atlantics. > > Best > > Chris From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon May 7 09:40:11 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 11:40:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tires, batteries and mufflers Message-ID: Just checking, I realize the chances are SLIM!! I'm gathering parts for the restoration of my early 100. I would like to get original 590 x 15 Roadspeed tires, these could be the currently available RS5 type. Does anyone out there have a set they no longer want? I'm also looking for a pair of 17L "Lucas" branded batteries. Doesn't matter if they are sulphated I'm going to convert them to lithium ion internally. Also looking for help with an original BURGESS branded muffler. If I can get accurate dimensions I can make one but better yet does anyone have one? Thanks, Michael Salter I have BJ8 water pump kits :-) From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon May 7 12:28:22 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 11:28:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tires, batteries and mufflers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael, I have an NOS Burgess silencer for my BN1 that I will take photos of and send dimensions if you can't find and original. If you need one, I still have several NOS 100 splash aprons that are still in the dark chocolate brown primer. I'm sending one off today to Fourintune to be used on Randy Hicks' 100M. Let me know about your battery project as I'm about to order two of the Lucas 17F batteries from Antique Battery Company. BTW how bad where your aluminum door trim pieces? I was just looking at a fellow list members trim from his '53 100 and it appears that we should be able to clean them up, and while they won't look new they are in remarkably good condition for almost 60 years old. Cheers, Curt Carlsbad, CA '55 BN1, '60 AN5 :{) On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > Just checking, I realize the chances are SLIM!! > I'm gathering parts for the restoration of my early 100. > I would like to get original 590 x 15 Roadspeed tires, these could be the > currently available RS5 type. Does anyone out there have a set they no > longer want? > I'm also looking for a pair of 17L "Lucas" branded batteries. Doesn't > matter if they are sulphated I'm going to convert them to lithium ion > internally. > Also looking for help with an original BURGESS branded muffler. If I can > get accurate dimensions I can make one but better yet does anyone have one? > > Thanks, > Michael Salter > > I have BJ8 water pump kits :-) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From varley at cosmos.net.au Mon May 7 14:25:22 2012 From: varley at cosmos.net.au (Larry Varley) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 06:25:22 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? In-Reply-To: <3786C683-D30B-4A9B-A52D-D0937FBA21E2@gmail.com> References: <63946660-1229-4DAD-9EC3-93A49C1A97B7@gmail.com> <205696521-1336346814-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1340927716-@b27.c3.bise3.blackberry> <5EA2EF7A-DCD0-416A-A137-38D1F1E2C600@gmail.com> <3786C683-D30B-4A9B-A52D-D0937FBA21E2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FA82FB2.5080705@cosmos.net.au> Chris, was that the early type were the vacuum advance unit was completely external, and used to rotate the entire body of the distributor to achieve advance? If so they were a real shocker once everything started to wear. There was one on an old Austin A70 motor I had to use in my Healey years ago while I was rebuilding the Healey engine ( back in the days the Healey was my only transport ). The distributor used to wobble constantly! Cheers Larry On 8/05/2012 1:20 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > http://www.a90atlantic.com/index.php/technical-info-s > Click on distributor. > On A90 Atlantic the DM2 40320 was fitted from May 1951. Clamp had 1 bolt not > 2. > Yes, earlier production of A90 Atlantic was different. > Best > Chris > Sent from my iPhone > > On 07/05/2012, at 5:57 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > >> Hmm weird. My Saloon was made on or around August '51 and it had the old > DVX4 dizzy on it.... but who knows. >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Chris Dimmock > wrote: >> http://www.a90atlantic.com/index.php/technical-info-s >> Click on distributor. >> On A90 Atlantic the DM2 40320 was fitted from May 1951. Clamp had 1 bolt not > 2. >> Yes, earlier production of A90 Atlantic was different. >> Best >> Chris >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 07/05/2012, at 9:26 AM, healey.nut at gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Atlantics used a different dizzy altogether. Not the best unit - the main > housing was split between the lower shaft housing and the upper contact > housing. The interference fit between the two was prone to wear, causing > housing wobble similar to shaft wobble. A finicky and unreliable unit on many > levels.... >>> Sent by BlackBerryB. from PCCW mobile >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Chris Dimmock >>> Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 7 May 2012 08:21:02 >>> To: Randy Hicks >>> Cc: Healey List >>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? >>> >>> 100's prior to chassis 230361, and A90 atlantics. >>> Best >>> Chris > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/varley at cosmos.net.au From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon May 7 15:11:51 2012 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 17:11:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tires, batteries and mufflers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Moss has a repro: > http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/459-380.pdf > Or > http://tinyurl.com/75sqm59 > > Robert > Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them. > > On 2012-05-07, at 11:40 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > >> Just checking, I realize the chances are SLIM!! >> I'm gathering parts for the restoration of my early 100. >> I would like to get original 590 x 15 Roadspeed tires, these could be the >> currently available RS5 type. Does anyone out there have a set they no >> longer want? >> I'm also looking for a pair of 17L "Lucas" branded batteries. Doesn't >> matter if they are sulphated I'm going to convert them to lithium ion >> internally. >> Also looking for help with an original BURGESS branded muffler. If I can >> get accurate dimensions I can make one but better yet does anyone have one? >> >> Thanks, >> Michael Salter >> >> I have BJ8 water pump kits :-) >> _______________________________________________ From jstmorris at yahoo.com Mon May 7 17:33:44 2012 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 16:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? Message-ID: <1336433624.99021.YahooMailClassic@web160201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Good Afternoon Randy; I think the attached files might be of some help to you. The first is a distributor list for Austin Healeys whereas the second file is a comprehensive list of Lucas distributors done by Marcel Chichak. The third is based on a Lucas catalogue chapter dealing with distributors. These files can also be found at the Austin Healey Club of Southern Ontario website: http://www.ahcso.com in the Technical Section. See http://tinyurl.com/7ywst5z or http://www.ahcso.com/detail.aspx?menu=59&app=299&cat1=764&tp=2&lk=no&title=Te chnical+Articles The three files are at the bottom of the list. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --- On Sun, 5/6/12, Randy Hicks wrote: << Hi, can anyone tell me what Healey 100 this distributor (#40320) would be appropriate for? >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Distributor Data Base w diagrams.pdf] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Distributor Database-Lucas.pdf] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Distributor Lucas 400 Catalogue.pdf] From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon May 7 20:14:50 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 10:14:50 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? In-Reply-To: References: <63946660-1229-4DAD-9EC3-93A49C1A97B7@gmail.com> <205696521-1336346814-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1340927716-@b27.c3.bise3.blackberry> <5EA2EF7A-DCD0-416A-A137-38D1F1E2C600@gmail.com> <3786C683-D30B-4A9B-A52D-D0937FBA21E2@gmail.com> <4FA82FB2.5080705@cosmos.net.au> Message-ID: Larry - No, that early type on the 100 is still a one piece housing and shaft housing unit (DM2), not a two piece like the DVX4. I shelved my DVX4 and put on a Pertonix dizzy on the A90. Jeff at Advanced Distributors was actually sort of bummed out I didn't give him my DVX4 to rebuild, I sort of understood how he felt.... Best. Alan > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Larry Varley wrote: >> >> Chris, was that the early type were the vacuum advance unit was completely external, and used to rotate the entire body of the distributor to achieve advance? If so they were a real shocker once everything started to wear. There was one on an old Austin A70 motor I had to use in my Healey years ago while I was rebuilding the Healey engine ( back in the days the Healey was my only transport ). The distributor used to wobble constantly! >> Cheers >> Larry >> >> >> On 8/05/2012 1:20 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: >>> >>> http://www.a90atlantic.com/index.php/technical-info-s >>> Click on distributor. >>> On A90 Atlantic the DM2 40320 was fitted from May 1951. Clamp had 1 bolt not >>> 2. >>> Yes, earlier production of A90 Atlantic was different. >>> Best >>> Chris >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 07/05/2012, at 5:57 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: >>> >>>> Hmm weird. My Saloon was made on or around August '51 and it had the old >>> >>> DVX4 dizzy on it.... but who knows. >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Chris Dimmock >>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> http://www.a90atlantic.com/index.php/technical-info-s >>>> Click on distributor. >>>> On A90 Atlantic the DM2 40320 was fitted from May 1951. Clamp had 1 bolt not >>> >>> 2. >>>> >>>> Yes, earlier production of A90 Atlantic was different. >>>> Best >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone From austin.healey at gmail.com Mon May 7 23:12:20 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 15:12:20 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] #40320 Distributor ? In-Reply-To: References: <63946660-1229-4DAD-9EC3-93A49C1A97B7@gmail.com> <205696521-1336346814-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1340927716-@b27.c3.bise3.blackberry> <5EA2EF7A-DCD0-416A-A137-38D1F1E2C600@gmail.com> <3786C683-D30B-4A9B-A52D-D0937FBA21E2@gmail.com> <4FA82FB2.5080705@cosmos.net.au> Message-ID: <168F4726-2EA5-4B74-91A7-D54C20C07D27@gmail.com> Hi Alan, Larry said he had an A70 distributor in an A70 engine he had temporarily fitted in his 100 many years ago. The A70 distributor was very, very agricultural - probably more agricultural than the DVX4!!!! Best Chris Sent from my iPhone On 08/05/2012, at 12:14 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Larry - > > No, that early type on the 100 is still a one piece housing and shaft > housing unit (DM2), not a two piece like the DVX4. I shelved my DVX4 > and put on a Pertonix dizzy on the A90. Jeff at Advanced Distributors > was actually sort of bummed out I didn't give him my DVX4 to rebuild, > I sort of understood how he felt.... > > Best. > > Alan > > >> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Larry Varley wrote: >>> >>> Chris, was that the early type were the vacuum advance unit was completely > external, and used to rotate the entire body of the distributor to achieve > advance? If so they were a real shocker once everything started to wear. There > was one on an old Austin A70 motor I had to use in my Healey years ago while I > was rebuilding the Healey engine ( back in the days the Healey was my only > transport ). The distributor used to wobble constantly! >>> Cheers >>> Larry >>> >>> >>> On 8/05/2012 1:20 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: >>>> >>>> http://www.a90atlantic.com/index.php/technical-info-s >>>> Click on distributor. >>>> On A90 Atlantic the DM2 40320 was fitted from May 1951. Clamp had 1 bolt > not >>>> 2. >>>> Yes, earlier production of A90 Atlantic was different. >>>> Best >>>> Chris From peter.ehn at frontwalker.se Tue May 8 08:05:26 2012 From: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se (Peter Ehn) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 16:05:26 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 Message-ID: <34B6CE282C83CE409E0490D509662D14040803DC@bilbo.IT-ARKITEKTERNA.SE> Hi all, I found the old discussion thread below while surfing for info on the angle drive for a BJ8. I have a new one on order since mine failed last week. Does anyone know the dimension of the washer mentioned, thickness of course most important? I want to know if I don't receive one with my order. Thanks, Peter Ehn PS. My drive "crashed" last week, and I think I actually reset the trip meter while driving as someone mentioned in the old thread. Don't know if this was the cause, but speedo and cable are OK and easy to spin by hand. Peter Ehn AH 3000 MKIII, 1967. BJ8 42208. Bromma/Stockholm, Sweden Phone: +46 708 33 72 97 E-mail: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se To: "George Haywood" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Spedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 From: "R. Price Lindsay" Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:51:12 -0500 Thanks George. I used the washer as recomended. This is a puzzle. Price On Jul 26, 2009, at 8:47 PM, "George Haywood" wrote: > > Price, > > There is suppose to be a washer inserted at the angle drive/tranny > fitting on Austin Healeys. Evidently the short drive is a little > too long and is said to create too much pressure on the angle drive > causing premature failure. You would think that manufacturers of > these products would just produce the correct part for our > application. The washer came with my new angle drive along with a > BMC product warning regarding the use of the washer. If you did use > the washer as directed then I don't have any other explanation for > the rapid failure of you drive. Some of the new speedo cables are > too long also and there is a specific length to cut the cable, which > I can't find at the moment. > > George Haywood > '65 bj8 > > >> From: price at advocateadvisors.com >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:21:44 -0500 >> Subject: [Healeys] Spedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 >> >> At Conclave my speedo stops working. There was a mechanic there that >> told me the speedo was frozen, causing the system to fail. I pulled >> the speedo and had it repaired/rebuilt. I also removed the angle >> drive >> and the male part into the od was broken. >> >> Ordered a new angle drive and cable. When the repaired speedo was >> returned I installed it along with a new angle drive. The cable was >> not damaged so I did not install the new one. Put the car back >> together and 32 miles later the speedo goes flat. >> >> I disconnected the cable and it did not turn when I drove. I pulled >> the cable from it's case and the od end was fine. I put a drill on >> the >> cable while connected to the speedo and ran it up to 50 mph. When I >> tried to turn the cable by hand it was difficult but it did turn. I >> suspect the angle drive is again broken. >> >> OK, what's the cause? Should the cable in the speedo turn easily? >> Could the speedo have failed? Could the angle drive have failed/been >> faulty? >> >> Price Lindsay >> 67 BJ8 From bspidell at comcast.net Tue May 8 11:26:50 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 17:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 In-Reply-To: <34B6CE282C83CE409E0490D509662D14040803DC@bilbo.IT-ARKITEKTERNA.SE> Message-ID: <686682283.125806.1336498010797.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Can't help on dimensions, but here's some info: http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/021-511.pdf Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- Hi all, I found the old discussion thread below while surfing for info on the angle drive for a BJ8. I have a new one on order since mine failed last week. Does anyone know the dimension of the washer mentioned, thickness of course most important? I want to know if I don't receive one with my order. Thanks, Peter Ehn PS. My drive "crashed" last week, and I think I actually reset the trip meter while driving as someone mentioned in the old thread. Don't know if this was the cause, but speedo and cable are OK and easy to spin by hand. Peter Ehn AH 3000 MKIII, 1967. BJ8 42208. Bromma/Stockholm, Sweden Phone: +46 708 33 72 97 E-mail: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se From peter.ehn at frontwalker.se Tue May 8 11:31:08 2012 From: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se (Peter Ehn) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 19:31:08 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 In-Reply-To: <686682283.125806.1336498010797.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <686682283.125806.1336498010797.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <55614A56-344A-403E-93F6-2C6C75D13077@frontwalker.se> Thanks Bob for your answer. I've read this, but don't have time to order from Moss, living on the other side of the "pond". :-) Peter Ehn. +46 708 33 72 97 peter.ehn at frontwalker.se (skickat frC%n min iPhone) 8 maj 2012 kl. 19:27 skrev "Bob Spidell" : > Can't help on dimensions, but here's some info: > > http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/021-511.pdf > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > Hi all, > > I found the old discussion thread below while surfing for info on the > angle drive for a BJ8. > > I have a new one on order since mine failed last week. > > > > Does anyone know the dimension of the washer mentioned, thickness of > course most important? > > I want to know if I don't receive one with my order. > > > > Thanks, Peter Ehn > > > > PS. > > My drive "crashed" last week, and I think I actually reset the trip > meter while driving as someone mentioned in the old thread. Don't know > if this was the cause, but speedo and cable are OK and easy to spin by > hand. > > > > > > Peter Ehn > AH 3000 MKIII, 1967. BJ8 42208. > Bromma/Stockholm, Sweden > Phone: +46 708 33 72 97 > E-mail: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Tue May 8 14:40:49 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 13:40:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 In-Reply-To: <55614A56-344A-403E-93F6-2C6C75D13077@frontwalker.se> References: <686682283.125806.1336498010797.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <55614A56-344A-403E-93F6-2C6C75D13077@frontwalker.se> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120508133902.0206fe08@pop.att.yahoo.com> Peter, Steel washer, .063 to .064 keep in mind that the angle drive usually breaks due to a frozen speedo bearing. John At 07:31 PM 5/8/2012 +0200, Peter Ehn wrote: >Thanks Bob for your answer. I've read this, but don't have time to >order from Moss, living on the other side of the "pond". :-) > >Peter Ehn. >+46 708 33 72 97 >peter.ehn at frontwalker.se > >(skickat frC%n min iPhone) > >8 maj 2012 kl. 19:27 skrev "Bob Spidell" : > > > Can't help on dimensions, but here's some info: > > > > http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/021-511.pdf > > > > Bob > > > > -------------------------------- > > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I found the old discussion thread below while surfing for info on the > > angle drive for a BJ8. > > > > I have a new one on order since mine failed last week. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know the dimension of the washer mentioned, thickness of > > course most important? > > > > I want to know if I don't receive one with my order. > > > > > > > > Thanks, Peter Ehn > > > > > > > > PS. > > > > My drive "crashed" last week, and I think I actually reset the trip > > meter while driving as someone mentioned in the old thread. Don't know > > if this was the cause, but speedo and cable are OK and easy to spin by > > hand. > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Ehn > > AH 3000 MKIII, 1967. BJ8 42208. > > Bromma/Stockholm, Sweden > > Phone: +46 708 33 72 97 > > E-mail: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net From healeyguy at bredband.net Tue May 8 15:47:21 2012 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 23:47:21 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 In-Reply-To: <686682283.125806.1336498010797.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <686682283.125806.1336498010797.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4FA99469.2020406@bredband.net> Peter Are there any remains of your old unit? Could be worth examining to see if the cause of the failure can be discovered. Per > PS. > > My drive "crashed" last week, and I think I actually reset the trip > meter while driving as someone mentioned in the old thread. Don't know > if this was the cause, but speedo and cable are OK and easy to spin by > hand. > > Peter Ehn > AH 3000 MKIII, 1967. BJ8 42208. > Bromma/Stockholm, Sweden > Phone: +46 708 33 72 97 > E-mail: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue May 8 16:27:13 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (healey.nut at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 22:27:13 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 In-Reply-To: <55614A56-344A-403E-93F6-2C6C75D13077@frontwalker.se> References: <686682283.125806.1336498010797.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <55614A56-344A-403E-93F6-2C6C75D13077@frontwalker.se> Message-ID: The main thing about this washer is it needs to be made out of copper. It's a standard thickness (not thin). Take your speedo drive to the hardware store and select the washer that best fits. However, ordering the correct washer would be advisable... This washer acts as a sort of thrust bearing. Try ahead 4 healeys, they'll have it. Alan Sent by BlackBerry. from PCCW mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Peter Ehn" Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 8 May 2012 19:31:08 To: Bob Spidell Cc: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 Thanks Bob for your answer. I've read this, but don't have time to order from Moss, living on the other side of the "pond". :-) Peter Ehn. +46 708 33 72 97 peter.ehn at frontwalker.se (skickat frC%n min iPhone) 8 maj 2012 kl. 19:27 skrev "Bob Spidell" : > Can't help on dimensions, but here's some info: > > http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/021-511.pdf > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > Hi all, > > I found the old discussion thread below while surfing for info on the > angle drive for a BJ8. > > I have a new one on order since mine failed last week. > > > > Does anyone know the dimension of the washer mentioned, thickness of > course most important? > > I want to know if I don't receive one with my order. > > > > Thanks, Peter Ehn > > > > PS. > > My drive "crashed" last week, and I think I actually reset the trip > meter while driving as someone mentioned in the old thread. Don't know > if this was the cause, but speedo and cable are OK and easy to spin by > hand. > > > > > > Peter Ehn > AH 3000 MKIII, 1967. BJ8 42208. > Bromma/Stockholm, Sweden > Phone: +46 708 33 72 97 > E-mail: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From eandy01 at msn.com Tue May 8 18:37:30 2012 From: eandy01 at msn.com (EDWARD ANDERSON) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 00:37:30 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Hagerty ins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anyone know how many miles annually they allow when insured as an occasionally driven? From michaelsalter at gmail.com Tue May 8 20:13:30 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 22:13:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] For those really interested in BN1 DETAIL!! Message-ID: I have just adder 3 posts to my blog regarding the restoration of my earlyBN1. These may be of interest to some otherwise please ignore. http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=812 About the car http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=838 Paint history http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=865 Unusual front fenders -- Michael Salter *I have BJ8 water pump kits!!* From bspidell at comcast.net Tue May 8 22:04:47 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 21:04:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] For those really interested in BN1 DETAIL!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA9ECDF.2090002@comcast.net> re: "Anyone got any idea of the tooling or technique used to make these cutouts?" My guess would be a jig saw or small body saw like this one: http://www.harborfreight.com/high-speed-metal-saw-91753.html Dumb question: do some BN1s and 2s have these cutout vents? Our BN2's fenders only have the 3 holes for the chrome spears' studs. If you get a chance, I could use closeups of how the shroud is attached to the cowl near the fascia. I know there are pop rivets and sheetmetal screws as well as the usual 10-32 machine screws, but we got into a frenzy disassembling our car and didn't take enough pictures. Bob On 5/8/2012 7:13 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > I have just adder 3 posts to my blog regarding the restoration of my > earlyBN1. > These may be of interest to some otherwise please ignore. > > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=812 About the car > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=838 Paint history > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=865 Unusual front fenders > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Tue May 8 22:12:55 2012 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 21:12:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hagerty ins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: IIRC it is 2500 miles. however in my conversions with the agents they "say" as long as it involves events and not daily driving it is not an issue. this year i will probably drive my XK 150 FHC about 4,000 miles on rallies and jag trips. they also covered my E type (and 50 other cars) and repainted it when it got sand blasted on the Copperstate 1000 two year sago. ron On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:37 PM, EDWARD ANDERSON wrote: > Anyone know how many miles annually they allow when insured as an > occasionally > driven? > _______________________________________________ From peter.ehn at frontwalker.se Wed May 9 00:59:08 2012 From: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se (Peter Ehn) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 08:59:08 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 In-Reply-To: <4FA99469.2020406@bredband.net> References: <686682283.125806.1336498010797.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4FA99469.2020406@bredband.net> Message-ID: <34B6CE282C83CE409E0490D509662D1404080448@bilbo.IT-ARKITEKTERNA.SE> Hi Per, I have the remains. Will bring them to the meeting on Saturday. /Peter -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: Per Schoerner [mailto:healeyguy at bredband.net] Skickat: den 8 maj 2012 23:47 Till: healeys at autox.team.net Kopia: Peter Ehn Dmne: Re: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 Peter Are there any remains of your old unit? Could be worth examining to see if the cause of the failure can be discovered. Per > PS. > > My drive "crashed" last week, and I think I actually reset the trip > meter while driving as someone mentioned in the old thread. Don't know > if this was the cause, but speedo and cable are OK and easy to spin by > hand. > > Peter Ehn > AH 3000 MKIII, 1967. BJ8 42208. > Bromma/Stockholm, Sweden > Phone: +46 708 33 72 97 > E-mail: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se From peter.ehn at frontwalker.se Wed May 9 01:08:22 2012 From: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se (Peter Ehn) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:08:22 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120508133902.0206fe08@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <686682283.125806.1336498010797.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <55614A56-344A-403E-93F6-2C6C75D13077@frontwalker.se> <6.2.3.4.2.20120508133902.0206fe08@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <34B6CE282C83CE409E0490D509662D1404080450@bilbo.IT-ARKITEKTERNA.SE> Thanks John, now I know. /Peter -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: john spaur [mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net] Skickat: den 8 maj 2012 22:41 Till: Peter Ehn Kopia: healeys at autox.team.net Dmne: Re: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 Peter, Steel washer, .063 to .064 keep in mind that the angle drive usually breaks due to a frozen speedo bearing. John At 07:31 PM 5/8/2012 +0200, Peter Ehn wrote: >Thanks Bob for your answer. I've read this, but don't have time to >order from Moss, living on the other side of the "pond". :-) > >Peter Ehn. >+46 708 33 72 97 >peter.ehn at frontwalker.se > >(skickat frC%n min iPhone) > >8 maj 2012 kl. 19:27 skrev "Bob Spidell" : > > > Can't help on dimensions, but here's some info: > > > > http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/021-511.pdf > > > > Bob > > > > -------------------------------- > > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I found the old discussion thread below while surfing for info on > > the angle drive for a BJ8. > > > > I have a new one on order since mine failed last week. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know the dimension of the washer mentioned, thickness of > > course most important? > > > > I want to know if I don't receive one with my order. > > > > > > > > Thanks, Peter Ehn > > > > > > > > PS. > > > > My drive "crashed" last week, and I think I actually reset the trip > > meter while driving as someone mentioned in the old thread. Don't > > know if this was the cause, but speedo and cable are OK and easy to > > spin by hand. > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Ehn > > AH 3000 MKIII, 1967. BJ8 42208. > > Bromma/Stockholm, Sweden > > Phone: +46 708 33 72 97 > > E-mail: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual >donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net From peter.ehn at frontwalker.se Wed May 9 01:10:07 2012 From: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se (Peter Ehn) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:10:07 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 In-Reply-To: <875705668-1336516030-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1488215074-@b27.c3.bise3.blackberry> References: <686682283.125806.1336498010797.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <55614A56-344A-403E-93F6-2C6C75D13077@frontwalker.se> <875705668-1336516030-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1488215074-@b27.c3.bise3.blackberry> Message-ID: <34B6CE282C83CE409E0490D509662D1404080451@bilbo.IT-ARKITEKTERNA.SE> Thanks Alan. Copper or steel according to John Spauer? Does it matter? /Peter -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: healey.nut at gmail.com [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] Skickat: den 9 maj 2012 00:27 Till: Peter Ehn; healeys-bounces at autox.team.net; Bob Spidell Kopia: healeys at autox.team.net Dmne: Re: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 The main thing about this washer is it needs to be made out of copper. It's a standard thickness (not thin). Take your speedo drive to the hardware store and select the washer that best fits. However, ordering the correct washer would be advisable... This washer acts as a sort of thrust bearing. Try ahead 4 healeys, they'll have it. Alan Sent by BlackBerry. from PCCW mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Peter Ehn" Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 8 May 2012 19:31:08 To: Bob Spidell Cc: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 Thanks Bob for your answer. I've read this, but don't have time to order from Moss, living on the other side of the "pond". :-) Peter Ehn. +46 708 33 72 97 peter.ehn at frontwalker.se (skickat frC%n min iPhone) 8 maj 2012 kl. 19:27 skrev "Bob Spidell" : > Can't help on dimensions, but here's some info: > > http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/021-511.pdf > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > Hi all, > > I found the old discussion thread below while surfing for info on the > angle drive for a BJ8. > > I have a new one on order since mine failed last week. > > > > Does anyone know the dimension of the washer mentioned, thickness of > course most important? > > I want to know if I don't receive one with my order. > > > > Thanks, Peter Ehn > > > > PS. > > My drive "crashed" last week, and I think I actually reset the trip > meter while driving as someone mentioned in the old thread. Don't know > if this was the cause, but speedo and cable are OK and easy to spin by > hand. > > > > > > Peter Ehn > AH 3000 MKIII, 1967. BJ8 42208. > Bromma/Stockholm, Sweden > Phone: +46 708 33 72 97 > E-mail: peter.ehn at frontwalker.se $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Wed May 9 01:47:09 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 08:47:09 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Hagerty ins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I got a quote from Hagerty here in the UK. They were 50% more expensive and offered less annual miles than the company I'm now with Derek. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:12 AM, F Ronald Rader wrote: > IIRC it is 2500 miles. > however in my conversions with the agents they "say" as long as it involves > events and not daily driving it is not an issue. > > this year i will probably drive my XK 150 FHC about 4,000 miles on rallies > and jag trips. > > they also covered my E type (and 50 other cars) and repainted it when it > got sand blasted on the Copperstate 1000 two year sago. > ron > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:37 PM, EDWARD ANDERSON wrote: > > > Anyone know how many miles annually they allow when insured as an > > occasionally > > driven? > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From healeyron at yahoo.com Wed May 9 07:06:55 2012 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 06:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Hagerty ins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1336568815.57901.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Edward, According to Classic Car Insurance Review http://www.classiccarinsurances.com/articles/how-to/get-the-best-classic-car- insurance-quote.html Hagerty doesn't place a mileage restriction. In the second paragraph of their review you will find this statement "Hagerty insurance (http://www.hagerty.com) put no limits on mileage, but restrict you from driving your classic car as basic transportation (no driving it to work daily, for example)." I've had their insurance for over 15 years during which time I have had two incidents which required repairs. Both times they informed me to get a quote from the repair shop of my choice and send them the bill. They are also less expensive then other Classic Car Insurance Co. that I have received quotes from. Ron Mitchell BN6 BN7 ________________________________ From: EDWARD ANDERSON To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:37 PM Subject: [Healeys] Hagerty ins Anyone know how many miles annually they allow when insured as an occasionally driven? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyron at yahoo.com From bluehealey at gmail.com Wed May 9 07:20:48 2012 From: bluehealey at gmail.com (Alan Bromfield) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:20:48 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] For those really interested in BN1 DETAIL!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Michael. Thanks for sparking up the blog again. I really enjoy this engineering archeology and we learn so much from the careful (forensic?) dis-assembly. My guess regarding the strange cuts is that they were made with an 'Abrafile'. Tensioning one in a frame deep enough to pass the wheel arch would be interesting though. More to the point however would be why the cuts were made in the first place? I'll be interested in the views from assembled wisdom on this list. More please Mike. On 09/05/2012, Michael Salter wrote: > I have just adder 3 posts to my blog regarding the restoration of my > earlyBN1. > These may be of interest to some otherwise please ignore. > > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=812 About the car > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=838 Paint history > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=865 Unusual front fenders > > -- > Michael Salter > -- _________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield_______________) (_______\____1957-BN4____/________) (__tinyurl.com/healeyforum _) From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Wed May 9 07:31:50 2012 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 06:31:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hagerty ins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: we bid ours every year. price is always competitive and the service was amazing when I had two claims. ron Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2012, at 12:47 AM, Derek Job wrote: > I got a quote from Hagerty here in the UK. They were 50% more expensive and offered less annual miles than the company I'm now with > > Derek. > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:12 AM, F Ronald Rader wrote: > IIRC it is 2500 miles. > however in my conversions with the agents they "say" as long as it involves > events and not daily driving it is not an issue. > > this year i will probably drive my XK 150 FHC about 4,000 miles on rallies > and jag trips. > > they also covered my E type (and 50 other cars) and repainted it when it > got sand blasted on the Copperstate 1000 two year sago. > ron > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:37 PM, EDWARD ANDERSON wrote: > > > Anyone know how many miles annually they allow when insured as an > > occasionally > > driven? > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From michaelsalter at gmail.com Wed May 9 07:36:51 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:36:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] For those really interested in BN1 DETAIL!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alan, thanks for taking the time to read my stuff... Regarding the type of tool used ... I didn't include one of the pictures of the end of one of the cuts. (I'll post it on the blog when I get a better focused version). I have attached it for you. The end of the cut is square and I think that a small cut out saw may have been used as Bob suggested. http://www.harborfreight.com/high-speed-metal-saw-91753.html I am pretty sure an Abrafile blade is round but without this picture it would have been a good idea. Can you imagine the time it took to cut each one out that way? Furthermore they must have used a very small blade considering the size of the start hole!! Much more to follow. -- Michael Salter *I have BJ8 water pump kits!!* On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Alan Bromfield wrote: > Hi Michael. > Thanks for sparking up the blog again. I really enjoy this engineering > archeology and we learn so much from the careful (forensic?) > dis-assembly. > > My guess regarding the strange cuts is that they were made with an > 'Abrafile'. Tensioning one in a frame deep enough to pass the wheel > arch would be interesting though. More to the point however would be > why the cuts were made in the first place? > > I'll be interested in the views from assembled wisdom on this list. > > More please Mike. > > > On 09/05/2012, Michael Salter wrote: > > I have just adder 3 posts to my blog regarding the restoration of my > > earlyBN1. > > These may be of interest to some otherwise please ignore. > > > > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=812 About the car > > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=838 Paint history > > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=865 Unusual front fenders > > > > -- > > Michael Salter > > > -- > _________________________________________ > (______________ Alan Bromfield_______________) > (_______\____1957-BN4____/________) > (__tinyurl.com/healeyforum _) [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of F fender cut out detail 4 small.jpg] From m.brouillette at comcast.net Wed May 9 08:07:14 2012 From: m.brouillette at comcast.net (Mike Brouillette) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:07:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Boston area BJ8 for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Folks, If anyone is looking for a great car, take a look at this one. Not my car, but know it well. It's a well maintained car based in the Boston area. http://boston.ebayclassifieds.com/classic-cars/boxford/1967-austin-healey-3000-bj8/?ad=16188517 From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed May 9 08:38:29 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 07:38:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] For those really interested in BN1 DETAIL!! In-Reply-To: <4FA9ECDF.2090002@comcast.net> References: <4FA9ECDF.2090002@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob, Typically 100 fenders with just the three holes for the chrome spears were period factory replacements. Curt On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > re: "Anyone got any idea of the tooling or technique used to make these > cutouts?" > > My guess would be a jig saw or small body saw like this one: > > http://www.harborfreight.com/**high-speed-metal-saw-91753.**html > > > Dumb question: do some BN1s and 2s have these cutout vents? Our BN2's > fenders only have the 3 holes for the chrome spears' studs. > > If you get a chance, I could use closeups of how the shroud is attached to > the cowl near the fascia. I know there are pop rivets and sheetmetal > screws as well as the usual 10-32 machine screws, but we got into a frenzy > disassembling our car and didn't take enough pictures. > > > Bob > > > > On 5/8/2012 7:13 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > >> I have just adder 3 posts to my blog regarding the restoration of my >> earlyBN1. >> These may be of interest to some otherwise please ignore. >> >> http://www.netbug.net/**blogmichael/?p=812 About the car >> http://www.netbug.net/**blogmichael/?p=838 Paint history >> http://www.netbug.net/**blogmichael/?p=865 Unusual front fenders >> >> > > -- > *********************************************************************** > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > *********************************************************************** > > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/cnaarndt@**gmail.com From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 9 08:42:54 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 09:42:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Hagerty ins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FAA826E.50301@justbrits.com> Do they do US business, Derek ? ? ? << On 5/9/2012 2:47 AM, Derek Job wrote: They were 50% more expensive and offered less annual miles than the company I'm now with >> I think most of us would be interested in saving a few bucks ? ! ? Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From steveg at abrazosdata.com Wed May 9 09:48:44 2012 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 07:48:44 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Hagerty_Insurance?= Message-ID: <20120509154844.24224.qmail@hoster902.com> This year I upped my mileage from 2500 to 5000 and the additional charge was less than $20 as I recall. They will quote you the cost. -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA BN6 From gwo at pacbell.net Wed May 9 11:09:35 2012 From: gwo at pacbell.net (Gary Olson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] hi Message-ID: <1336583375.81933.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web181011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> wow this is crazy you should look into this http://www.sixnews15.net/biz/?employment=2247797 From gwo at pacbell.net Wed May 9 11:09:35 2012 From: gwo at pacbell.net (Gary Olson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] hi Message-ID: <1336583375.81933.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web181011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> wow this is crazy you should look into this http://www.sixnews15.net/biz/?employment=2247797 From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed May 9 11:46:14 2012 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 13:46:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hagerty ins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20120509134614.7GSFL.302338.root@pamxwww01-z01> I'm with Hagerty and they never offered me or told me how many miles I could drive a year----I asked once and they said don't worry about it--drive and enjoy. tom ---- F Ronald Rader wrote: ============= we bid ours every year. price is always competitive and the service was amazing when I had two claims. ron Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2012, at 12:47 AM, Derek Job wrote: > I got a quote from Hagerty here in the UK. They were 50% more expensive and offered less annual miles than the company I'm now with > > Derek. > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:12 AM, F Ronald Rader wrote: > IIRC it is 2500 miles. > however in my conversions with the agents they "say" as long as it involves > events and not daily driving it is not an issue. > > this year i will probably drive my XK 150 FHC about 4,000 miles on rallies > and jag trips. > > they also covered my E type (and 50 other cars) and repainted it when it > got sand blasted on the Copperstate 1000 two year sago. > ron > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:37 PM, EDWARD ANDERSON wrote: > > > Anyone know how many miles annually they allow when insured as an > > occasionally > > driven? > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Wed May 9 11:51:17 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 10:51:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedo/Cable/Angle Drive - BJ8 In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120509090100.0205b2a0@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <686682283.125806.1336498010797.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <55614A56-344A-403E-93F6-2C6C75D13077@frontwalker.se> <875705668-1336516030-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1488215074-@b27.c3.bise3.blackberry> <34B6CE282C83CE409E0490D509662D1404080451@bilbo.IT-ARKITEKTERNA.SE> <6.2.3.4.2.20120509090100.0205b2a0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120509105051.020f25c8@pop.att.yahoo.com> At 09:01 AM 5/9/2012 -0700, john spaur wrote: >Mine is steel but I don't know if it is original. Perhaps copper >should be used because it might provide an oil seal. > >John > >At 09:10 AM 5/9/2012 +0200, Peter Ehn wrote: >>Thanks Alan. >>Copper or steel according to John Spauer? >>Does it matter? >> >>/Peter From michael.oritt at gmail.com Wed May 9 12:07:16 2012 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:07:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hagerty ins In-Reply-To: <1336568815.57901.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1336568815.57901.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have had coverage with Hagerty since I got my 100 in 1999. I have driven from my home in Maryland to several Conclaves--Tahoe, Grand Rapids MN, NC and Texas (via Bismark ND) in all cases with prior notice to Hagerty and not a peep from them about it. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Edward, > > According to Classic Car Insurance Review > > http://www.classiccarinsurances.com/articles/how-to/get-the-best-classic-car- > insurance-quote.html Hagerty doesn't place a mileage restriction. In the > second paragraph of their review you will find this statement "Hagerty > insurance (http://www.hagerty.com) put no limits on mileage, but restrict > you > from driving your classic car as basic transportation (no > driving it to work > daily, for example)." > > I've had their insurance for over 15 years during which > time I have had two incidents which required repairs. Both times they > informed me to get a quote from the repair shop of my choice and send them > the > bill. They are also less expensive then other Classic Car Insurance Co. > that > I have received quotes from. > > Ron Mitchell > BN6 > BN7 > ________________________________ > From: EDWARD ANDERSON > To: > healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:37 PM > Subject: [Healeys] > Hagerty ins > > Anyone know how many miles annually they allow when insured as > an occasionally > driven? > Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyron at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From Hartangus at aol.com Wed May 9 12:55:50 2012 From: Hartangus at aol.com (Hartangus at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] for those really interested in BN1 DETAIL Message-ID: <13ce9.36bb1f98.3cdc17b6@aol.com> Hi Bob, I am pretty sure the slots were cut using a monodex cutter. Regards Barrie from England From mark at bradakis.com Wed May 9 12:59:32 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 12:59:32 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] hi In-Reply-To: <1336583375.81933.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web181011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1336583375.81933.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web181011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FAABE94.6050106@bradakis.com> Great. Another hacked account to be put on the moderate list. mjb. From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed May 9 13:59:39 2012 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 15:59:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hagerty ins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20120509155939.1XN9I.190756.root@pamxwww03-z01> Ditto- ---- Michael Oritt wrote: ============= I have had coverage with Hagerty since I got my 100 in 1999. I have driven from my home in Maryland to several Conclaves--Tahoe, Grand Rapids MN, NC and Texas (via Bismark ND) in all cases with prior notice to Hagerty and not a peep from them about it. From agrossman at pacific.net Wed May 9 15:54:28 2012 From: agrossman at pacific.net (Alan Grossman) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:54:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tire help Message-ID: I tried a look in the archives, but it was pretty daunting. My BN 4 came with 3 old, but almost no miles P 3s, and a new Riken. Tire size 185/70 15. Anyhow the 3 Pirellis are toast. So I need 3 or 4 new tires. Not having much luck looking on the web. Suggestions please. Thanks, Alan From michael.oritt at gmail.com Wed May 9 17:28:48 2012 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 19:28:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tire help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alan-- Opinions will vary on which tire is best but I think everyone will tell you to have the same time on all four corners. If you must keep it, make the Riken a spare but no more. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Alan Grossman wrote: > I tried a look in the archives, but it was pretty daunting. > My BN 4 came with 3 old, but almost no miles P 3s, and a new Riken. Tire > size > 185/70 15. Anyhow the 3 Pirellis are toast. So I need 3 or 4 new tires. Not > having much luck looking on the web. Suggestions please. > > Thanks, Alan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed May 9 19:22:42 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:22:42 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tire help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alan - Longstone has a few options for you: http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page/austin-healey coker has options too; http://www.cokertire.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=185/70R15 http://www.cokertire.com/165hr15-vredestein-sprint-blackwall-tire.html note that if you have the original rims on your car (60 spoke, 4.5 inch rim width) then the 165s are a good option and MUCH cheaper. Alan On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Michael Oritt wrote: > Alan-- > > Opinions will vary on which tire is best but I think everyone will tell you > to have the same time on all four corners. If you must keep it, make the > Riken a spare but no more. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Alan Grossman wrote: > >> I tried a look in the archives, but it was pretty daunting. >> My BN 4 came with 3 old, but almost no miles P 3s, and a new Riken. Tire >> size >> 185/70 15. Anyhow the 3 Pirellis are toast. So I need 3 or 4 new tires. Not >> having much luck looking on the web. Suggestions please. >> >> Thanks, Alan >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed May 9 20:59:14 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 22:59:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement side screen plexiglas install question In-Reply-To: <057201cd2b07$3a073a10$ae15ae30$@com> References: <057201cd2b07$3a073a10$ae15ae30$@com> Message-ID: <001301cd2e58$e5c560d0$b1502270$@net> First make sure the replacement panels are exactly the correct original height. Simply position the plexi panel in the middle of the frame with the lower edge in the channel, bow it gently but firmly to lose effective height and pop it into place. Do not use heat or cold to try to improve things. Cold will simply make it brittle. The alloy frame will also spread slightly which will also help matters. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Gerow Sent: May-05-12 5:37 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Replacement side screen plexiglas install question Have got my weatherstrips installed on my sidescreens - thanks to those who helped with that. Now have to replace a broken Plexiglas panel - do the panels need to be heated in sunlight or hot water to help them flex enough to install in the channels? Has anyone ever tried freezing them to shrink them? -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA, USA BN6 $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From agrossman at pacific.net Thu May 10 06:33:36 2012 From: agrossman at pacific.net (Alan Grossman) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 05:33:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] AWESOME Tire help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for the speedy, helpful replies. Much appreciated! Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: "Michael Oritt" Cc: "Alan Grossman" ; "Healey" Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tire help > Alan - > > Longstone has a few options for you: > > http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page/austin-healey > > coker has options too; > > http://www.cokertire.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=185/70R15 > http://www.cokertire.com/165hr15-vredestein-sprint-blackwall-tire.html > > note that if you have the original rims on your car (60 spoke, 4.5 > inch rim width) then the 165s are a good option and MUCH cheaper. > > Alan > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Michael Oritt > wrote: >> Alan-- >> >> Opinions will vary on which tire is best but I think everyone will tell >> you >> to have the same time on all four corners. If you must keep it, make the >> Riken a spare but no more. >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Alan Grossman >> wrote: >> >>> I tried a look in the archives, but it was pretty daunting. >>> My BN 4 came with 3 old, but almost no miles P 3s, and a new Riken. Tire >>> size >>> 185/70 15. Anyhow the 3 Pirellis are toast. So I need 3 or 4 new tires. >>> Not >>> having much luck looking on the web. Suggestions please. >>> >>> Thanks, Alan >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From Hartangus at aol.com Thu May 10 10:35:15 2012 From: Hartangus at aol.com (Hartangus at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 12:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] for those really interested inBN1 Detail Message-ID: <48394.317ccba4.3cdd4842@aol.com> Hi Michael, was very interested on your thoughts re. the air saw. The thing that makes me suggest a monodex cutter is the width of the cut. I very much doubt that the saw blade is thick enough to make a cut this wide.If you remember, the monodex as it cuts, produces a coil of metal as wide as the blade. Regards, Barrie from England From pensenwood at aol.com Thu May 10 11:58:41 2012 From: pensenwood at aol.com (pensenwood at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 13:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] fender openings Message-ID: <8CEFCEDAA1F1543-12A4-19681@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com> These are on my BN1 ( # 789 ) and appear to be original to the car. Bob [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of michigan bn1 001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of michigan bn1 002.jpg] From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu May 10 14:50:28 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 16:50:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] #174....What colour was the frame!! Message-ID: New post on my blog.. http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -- Michael Salter *I have BJ8 water pump kits!!* From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Thu May 10 14:57:10 2012 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 15:57:10 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Electric Cooling Fan Message-ID: Anyone convert his cooling fan to one of those electric ones that fasten to the radiator? I'm curious about the size that is needed, and how easy it is to physically install. I do have an electrical diagram for the thermostat. Thanks, Jack From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu May 10 16:56:42 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 18:56:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tires, batteries and mufflers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00e901cd2f00$2b10d000$81327000$@net> Robert, et al, These Moss batteries are from Antique Battery Supply, but for almost double the price. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: May-07-12 5:12 PM To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires, batteries and mufflers > Moss has a repro: > http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/459-380.pdf > Or > http://tinyurl.com/75sqm59 > > Robert From cynicbass at gmail.com Thu May 10 17:20:51 2012 From: cynicbass at gmail.com (Richard Korn) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 23:20:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] #174....What colour was the frame!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <029C010F-A382-4918-87CB-12B1569D0332@gmail.com> Very interesting stuff...keep it coming please. Richard Generic middle of the run BN2 with some interesting points. Sent from Ricky's iPad On May 10, 2012, at 20:50, Michael Salter wrote: > New post on my blog.. > > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ > > > -- > Michael Salter > > *I have BJ8 water pump kits!!* > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cynicbass at gmail.com From enquiries at classic-car-world.co.uk Thu May 10 17:25:50 2012 From: enquiries at classic-car-world.co.uk (Tom McCay - Classic-Car-World Ltd) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 00:25:50 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Electric Cooling Fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jack, please see the following link to an article I wrote a couple of years back on fitting a fan to my BJ8. Basic rule I would say is fit as big a fan as you can depending on the size of the core on your radiator. I fitted a 14" fan but I have seen cars with different size radiators which could only accommodate a 12" fan. http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Fan.pdf Kindest regards Tom AH3000 BJ8 MkIII MGA 1600 MkI Classic Mini Park Lane ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Feldman To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: [Healeys] Electric Cooling Fan Anyone convert his cooling fan to one of those electric ones that fasten to the radiator? I'm curious about the size that is needed, and how easy it is to physically install. I do have an electrical diagram for the thermostat. Thanks, Jack _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/enquiries at classic-car-world.co. uk From tld6008 at mchsi.com Thu May 10 18:48:02 2012 From: tld6008 at mchsi.com (Tim Davis BN7) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 19:48:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] fender openings In-Reply-To: <8CEFCEDAA1F1543-12A4-19681@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <258568863.45282741336697282752.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs14> Wow, those look really strange. Tim Davis BN7 ----- Original Message ----- From: pensenwood at aol.com To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:58:41 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Healeys] fender openings These are on my BN1 ( # 789 ) and appear to be original to the car. Bob [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of michigan bn1 001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of michigan bn1 002.jpg] Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tld6008 at mchsi.com From ah3000me at gmail.com Thu May 10 18:54:59 2012 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 20:54:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] for those really interested inBN1 Detail In-Reply-To: <48394.317ccba4.3cdd4842@aol.com> References: <48394.317ccba4.3cdd4842@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi, I'm starting to reassemble my front BJ8 hubs. Should the distance piece be greased or go in dry? Does it turn on the spindle? thanks, Tom From bspidell at comcast.net Thu May 10 21:21:42 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 20:21:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] for those really interested inBN1 Detail In-Reply-To: References: <48394.317ccba4.3cdd4842@aol.com> Message-ID: <4FAC85C6.2080900@comcast.net> Dry. Sufficiently torqued down, the inner bearing races and both spacers won't/shouldn't turn. I used to pack the whole cavity with grease but read somewhere--possibly the shop manual--to only pack the bearings. Bob On 5/10/2012 5:54 PM, Tom wrote: > Hi, > > I'm starting to reassemble my front BJ8 hubs. Should the distance piece be > greased or go in dry? Does it turn on the spindle? > > thanks, > > Tom > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From ynotink at msn.com Thu May 10 22:40:11 2012 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 04:40:11 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] for those really interested inBN1 Detail In-Reply-To: References: <48394.317ccba4.3cdd4842@aol.com>, Message-ID: The distance piece and shims do not need to be greased and should not turn on the stub axle. they bear on the inner bearing races and are pinched between them. Their purpose is to allow the bearings to be set as close to zero clearance as possible without introducing any preloading. Bill Lawrence > Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 20:54:59 -0400 > From: ah3000me at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] for those really interested inBN1 Detail > > Hi, > > I'm starting to reassemble my front BJ8 hubs. Should the distance piece be > greased or go in dry? Does it turn on the spindle? > > thanks, > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri May 11 01:16:55 2012 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 09:16:55 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Electric Cooling Fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FACBCE7.5060609@chello.nl> Get the biggest fan you can fit to the core. These fans that fit straight to the core have been around for years and do not seem to harm the radiator but they have to fit properly and be securely, but not over tight, fastened. Very simple and easy. Fit the thermo switch in a T piece with M20 thread fitted in the top hose or have an M20 adaptor soldered in the header tank of the radiator. Make sure that al coolant hoses are in perfect condition and remove the standard fan altogether. Play around with various temperature ranges for the thermoswitch and the thermostat. You can use a sleeved thermostat with a higher opening temp of say 82 or 86 degrees C, for better and more efficient running of the engine, with a thermoswitch that cuts in at around 92 degrees C and cuts out at around 87 degrees or 96/92 respectively. You could go higher without any trouble, even in hot weather. I presently run my JH on a thermostat of 89 degrees, with a 96/102 degrees thermo switch with a 10lbs cap and have had no problems at all driving in the very dense local traffic (jams) in very hot weather (35 degrees C). I use silicon hoses throughout. There are hundreds of M20 threaded thermoswitches to choose from. Make sure that the radiator cap seals airtight using a thin rubber washer between the filler neck and the stainless steel or brass seal in the cap and use an expansion vessel with the hose going right to the bottom or entering the bottom to suck back the coolant when the engine cools down. Also use a 10-15 lbs radiator cap to prevent local boiling. Kees Oudesluijs NL Op 10-5-2012 22:57, Jack Feldman schreef: > Anyone convert his cooling fan to one of those electric ones that fasten to > the radiator? > > I'm curious about the size that is needed, and how easy it is to physically > install. I do have an electrical diagram for the thermostat. > > Thanks, > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2012.0.1913 / Virusdatabase: 2425/4989 - datum van uitgifte: 05/10/12 > > -- Kees Oudesluijs Dorpsstraat 183 2995XG Heerjansdam T: 078-677 1233 E: coudesluijs at chello.nl Technische commissie Jensen Healey en GT Het Jensen Genootschap Holland www.jensenholland.nl From healeyguy at bredband.net Fri May 11 04:32:03 2012 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:32:03 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] for those really interested inBN1 Detail In-Reply-To: References: <48394.317ccba4.3cdd4842@aol.com>, Message-ID: <4FACEAA3.802@bredband.net> The distance piece also makes the stub axle stronger. It should absolutely not be allowed to turn with the wheel, and it should also not be omitted when assembling the front wheel hub. Per in Sweden WILLIAM B LAWRENCE skrev 2012-05-11 06:40: > The distance piece and shims do not need to be greased and should not turn on > the stub axle. they bear on the inner bearing races and are pinched between > them. Their purpose is to allow the bearings to be set as close to zero > clearance as possible without introducing any preloading. From eoingalvin at cogeco.ca Fri May 11 06:42:02 2012 From: eoingalvin at cogeco.ca (Eoin Galvin) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:42:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Difficulty Starting Message-ID: Hi all I am having trouble starting the car (BN1 July 54). I noticed that when I pulled the choke out the jet leaver on the front carburetor does not appear to move much. I disconnected the choke cable to the carbs and manually moved the Jet levers on both carbs. The rear carb leaver moves very freely and has a nice smooth action while the front carb leaver is tight and it takes a lot more effort to move. I removed the air filter on the front carb and moved the piston with my finger and it had a nice smooth movement so I am guessing nothing is binding inside the carb.B B Is the front jet leaver normally tight. If not what should I look at. Thanks B EoinB B Sent from my Android phone so All I Can Say Is It Made Sense Before It Left My Phone From michaelsalter at gmail.com Fri May 11 07:15:09 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 09:15:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] for those really interested inBN1 Detail In-Reply-To: References: <48394.317ccba4.3cdd4842@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Tom, The distance piece, and its shims, act as a solid spacer between the inner races of he bearings. When installed correctly it will be absolutely locked in place by the torque you apply to the spindle nut and when that nut is tight the hub should still turn freely with virtually no free play. Getting the shim thickness adjusted correctly is critical and easiest to do before you install the seal or grease. -- Michael Salter *I have BJ8 water pump kits!!* On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Tom wrote: > Hi, > > I'm starting to reassemble my front BJ8 hubs. Should the distance piece be > greased or go in dry? Does it turn on the spindle? > > thanks, > > Tom From frogeye at porterscustom.com Fri May 11 08:15:10 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:15:10 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Difficulty Starting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FEEEBD9E67E45868FBE8C4C2F789CDB@oscar> Eoin, Likely it's a build up of fuel deposits on and around the bore of the jet, which moves up and down, the latter action to "activate" the richening for starting purposes. Choke is not the correct terminology, but it is what we were given... anyway, 1st course of action is to spray some sort of carb cleaner product around the jet and move the jet through it's range of motion and see if that cures it. More often than not you may have to completely remove the jet to get/remove any heavy build up or corrosion that is present. If you are careful and the jet glans are in good condition it's a pull it out and push it back in sequence. If not, well then you will have to remove the jet assembly and replace the cork bits and re-center the assembly... which should have probably been done in the first place... ;~) Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eoin Galvin Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:42 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Difficulty Starting Hi all I am having trouble starting the car (BN1 July 54). I noticed that when I pulled the choke out the jet leaver on the front carburetor does not appear to move much. I disconnected the choke cable to the carbs and manually moved the Jet levers on both carbs. The rear carb leaver moves very freely and has a nice smooth action while the front carb leaver is tight and it takes a lot more effort to move. I removed the air filter on the front carb and moved the piston with my finger and it had a nice smooth movement so I am guessing nothing is binding inside the carb.B B Is the front jet leaver normally tight. If not what should I look at. Thanks B EoinB From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 11 08:32:28 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 09:32:28 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Actually BJ-8 Front end Assembly --- for those really interested inBN1 Detail In-Reply-To: References: <48394.317ccba4.3cdd4842@aol.com>, Message-ID: <4FAD22FC.6070509@justbrits.com> << On 5/10/2012 11:40 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: The distance piece and shims do not need to be greased >> Tom, nobody has mentioned that bearings MUST be squeaky clean whilst doing the initial set-up assembly (meaning grease-less) ! ! Just RTM + follow The KISS Rule ! ! Tedious but rewarding job ! Ed '63 BJ-7 (Hortense THE Healey wearing STD IL plates AH BJ 7 ) Founding Member - ILLINI Chapter, AHCA [close to 40 years]. Tech Contact & Member - AHCUSA Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com PS: If you need a selection of shims, just write me direct & I'll send you some. Start with one (1) .30 shim since you have NEW hubs. From derek.c.job at gmail.com Fri May 11 08:52:06 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 15:52:06 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Installation of FIA approved cut out switch Message-ID: Hi all, I've just ordered the above switch and Ive been reading up in preparation for installation. The FIA approve cut out has 2 big terminal for the live battery feed in and out then 2 pairs of extra terminals. One pair goes on the circuit between the coil and the ignition switch and the other pair go between the 'main electrical feed circuit' (as named in the instructions) and a 3 ohm resistor to earth. For the first pair I guess I just take the existing white wire that goes from coil to ignition and route it from the coil to the switch and then from the switch to the ignition. Re the second pair, which connection would be best to acess the main electrical feed circuit? The switch will be mounted on the dashboard. I will remove the battery cutoff switch in the boot. Can I just simply disconnect and remove the black and white wire that runs from the cut off switch to the coil? thanks Derek www.healeysix.net From JPayne at ThorCon.net Fri May 11 10:38:47 2012 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:38:47 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey "Security" Circuit Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A9742B4@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> When the switch in the trunk is flipped, is it supposed to be interrupting the black white ground or is it supposed to be grounding it out? The power will go to ground via the path of least resistance, so my theory is that an ignition system (capacitor, spark plug, etc.) has lots of resistance, so if the switch in the trunk is "on" then the black/white wire is not grounded. and when "off" the coil will ground itself out and no power will be making it to the dist. Right? If that's the case, I can isolate this variable in my not working ignition by disconnecting it in the trunk and making sure it isn't grounded. The wiring diagram does not indicate which side of the switch the black and white wire is actually on in the trunk. If not as described above, is it a "flow" item similar to the ignition light (charge/discharge) indicator? And if so, How do I then Isolate it. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From JPayne at ThorCon.net Fri May 11 10:39:40 2012 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:39:40 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Healey "Security" Circuit In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A9742B4@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> References: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A9742B4@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A9752F4@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> When the switch in the trunk is flipped, is it supposed to be interrupting the black white ground or is it supposed to be grounding it out? The power will go to ground via the path of least resistance, so my theory is that an ignition system (capacitor, spark plug, etc.) has lots of resistance, so if the switch in the trunk is "on" then the black/white wire is not grounded. and when "off" the coil will ground itself out and no power will be making it to the dist. Right? If that's the case, I can isolate this variable in my not working ignition by disconnecting it in the trunk and making sure it isn't grounded. The wiring diagram does not indicate which side of the switch the black and white wire is actually on in the trunk. If not as described above, is it a "flow" item similar to the ignition light (charge/discharge) indicator? And if so, How do I then Isolate it. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From michael.oritt at gmail.com Fri May 11 10:56:35 2012 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:56:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Installation of FIA approved cut out switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Derek-- I believe the second set of contacts is designed to ground the alternator. If you have a one-wire alternator then simply run a lead from the alternator to one of the terminals and the other through a resistor and then to ground. If you have a three-wire alternator you'll have to ask someone smarter than me. Yes, you can either disconnect the b/w wire from the coil or if you wish to maintain original appearance leave it connected and cut it somewhere else in its length and insulate the end of the wire so the coil does not inadvertently get grounded. Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Derek Job wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just ordered the above switch and Ive been reading up in preparation > for installation. The FIA approve cut out has 2 big terminal for the live > battery feed in and out then 2 pairs of extra terminals. One pair goes on > the circuit between the coil and the ignition switch and the other pair go > between the 'main electrical feed circuit' (as named in the instructions) > and a 3 ohm resistor to earth. > > For the first pair I guess I just take the existing white wire that goes > from coil to ignition and route it from the coil to the switch and then > from the switch to the ignition. > > Re the second pair, which connection would be best to acess the main > electrical feed circuit? The switch will be mounted on the dashboard. > > I will remove the battery cutoff switch in the boot. Can I just simply > disconnect and remove the black and white wire that runs from the cut off > switch to the coil? > > > thanks > > Derek > www.healeysix.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Fri May 11 12:39:47 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Healey "Security" Circuit In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A9742B4@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <1816241537.272594.1336761587647.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> re: "The power will go to ground via the path of least resistance, so my theory is that an ignition system (capacitor, spark plug, etc.) has lots of resistance, so if the switch in the trunk is "on" then the black/white wire is not grounded. and when "off" the coil will ground itself out and no power will be making it to the dist. Right?" Correct. In a points car, when the cutoff switch is in the 'Off' position the coil is grounded. When I installed a Pertronix unit, I moved the terminal so the circuit was open in the off position, breaking current flow to the coil. The white/black wire has its own terminal on the cutoff switch; it's connected internally to ground in the 'Off' position. It should be connected (in a points car) to the coil primary terminal opposite the power lead--the same terminal where the lead to the distributor is attached; i.e. in parallel--else it would be a dead short (as it is, only the coil resistance prevents it being a dead short). Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- When the switch in the trunk is flipped, is it supposed to be interrupting the black white ground or is it supposed to be grounding it out? The power will go to ground via the path of least resistance, so my theory is that an ignition system (capacitor, spark plug, etc.) has lots of resistance, so if the switch in the trunk is "on" then the black/white wire is not grounded. and when "off" the coil will ground itself out and no power will be making it to the dist. Right? If that's the case, I can isolate this variable in my not working ignition by disconnecting it in the trunk and making sure it isn't grounded. The wiring diagram does not indicate which side of the switch the black and white wire is actually on in the trunk. If not as described above, is it a "flow" item similar to the ignition light (charge/discharge) indicator? And if so, How do I then Isolate it. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 _______________________________________________ From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri May 11 12:50:51 2012 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 14:50:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Healey "Security" Circuit In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A9752F4@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> References: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A9742B4@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A9752F4@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <00a701cd2fa6$fcba3230$f62e9690$@rr.com> Jonas, the switch in the trunk connects the white/black wire to ground when the switch is ON. At the same time, it also disconnects battery ground from the chassis and grounds the points side of the ignition coil to prevent it from generating the voltage required to fire the spark plugs. Sometimes the switch in the trunk shorts internally so that the white/black wire is connected to ground even with the switch in the OFF position. This will prevent the car from starting. If the internal failure also disconnects battery ground, you will not have any electrical power at all. To check to see if the switch is preventing ignition, disconnect the wire from the trunk switch. To check to see if the switch is disconnecting battery ground, connect another wire from the battery negative terminal directly to the chassis. I had the switch failure problem while at Lake Tahoe for Open Roads 2002, and I have driven the car with the switch disconnected ever since. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jonas Payne Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:40 PM To: 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: [Healeys] FW: Healey "Security" Circuit When the switch in the trunk is flipped, is it supposed to be interrupting the black white ground or is it supposed to be grounding it out? The power will go to ground via the path of least resistance, so my theory is that an ignition system (capacitor, spark plug, etc.) has lots of resistance, so if the switch in the trunk is "on" then the black/white wire is not grounded. and when "off" the coil will ground itself out and no power will be making it to the dist. Right? If that's the case, I can isolate this variable in my not working ignition by disconnecting it in the trunk and making sure it isn't grounded. The wiring diagram does not indicate which side of the switch the black and white wire is actually on in the trunk. If not as described above, is it a "flow" item similar to the ignition light (charge/discharge) indicator? And if so, How do I then Isolate it. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 _______________________________________________ From mathdocster at gmail.com Fri May 11 13:01:06 2012 From: mathdocster at gmail.com (Patrick Williams) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 14:01:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] I'm cleaning out my garage in Huntsville, AL Message-ID: I've got a bunch of Healey stuff, BN4 and BT7 that I will give away if you come pick it up. Items include: 4 wings - original ,OK shape with a little dogleg rust steering column aluminum cockpit surround pieces misc carb parts HD6 dash, bare aluminum I'm downsizing my house and just don't have room for extra parts anymore. Anyone from Atlanta, Nashville, etc interested? Did I say the stuff is free? Pat Williams From kags at shaw.ca Fri May 11 13:06:14 2012 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:06:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey "Security" Circuit In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A9742B4@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> References: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A9742B4@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <88B34BACBE134D33B1D015A421272485@KagsLaptop> Jonas: As originally wired, the Healey's battery cut off switch grounds the ignition through the white/black wire that runs directly through the main wiring harness from the switch to the coil. This was done to prevent the engine running on the generator - a possibility when the switch was switched to the off position with the engine running. (We can thank the late Norman Nock for this explanation many years ago). The anti-theft feature is an additional benefit - such that it is. In a non-running car with no ignition, first check for the possibility that the wire is grounded at the switch - disconnect it and tape the exposed wire. If the engine then runs, there is a problem at the switch, or with the switch itself. If no luck there, disconnect the white/black wire at the coil. If the engine then runs, the wire is grounded somewhere in the wiring harness - maybe at a frayed part in the harness underneath the car - it's been known to happen in a Healey! If still no luck, the problem is elsewhere. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb -----Original Message----- From: Jonas Payne Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 9:38 AM To: 'Derek Job' ; 'Forum' Subject: [Healeys] Healey "Security" Circuit When the switch in the trunk is flipped, is it supposed to be interrupting the black white ground or is it supposed to be grounding it out? The power will go to ground via the path of least resistance, so my theory is that an ignition system (capacitor, spark plug, etc.) has lots of resistance, so if the switch in the trunk is "on" then the black/white wire is not grounded. and when "off" the coil will ground itself out and no power will be making it to the dist. Right? If that's the case, I can isolate this variable in my not working ignition by disconnecting it in the trunk and making sure it isn't grounded. The wiring diagram does not indicate which side of the switch the black and white wire is actually on in the trunk. If not as described above, is it a "flow" item similar to the ignition light (charge/discharge) indicator? And if so, How do I then Isolate it. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From michaelsalter at gmail.com Fri May 11 13:50:13 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 15:50:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Front shroud attachment question Message-ID: Someone on this list sent me a question regarding the attachment of the rear of the front shroud above the dash. Sorry I have lost your message..please send it again. -- Michael Salter *I have BJ8 water pump kits!!* From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Fri May 11 14:06:21 2012 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 13:06:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey "Security" Circuit In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A9742B4@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> References: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A9742B4@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <660901AB-AD75-4613-A11E-B37050758E20@sbcglobal.net> The battery switch when turned off will ground the white / black wire not allowing the engine to start. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On May 11, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Jonas Payne wrote: > When the switch in the trunk is flipped, is it supposed to be > interrupting the > black white ground or is it supposed to be grounding it out? > > The power will go to ground via the path of least resistance, so my > theory is > that an ignition system (capacitor, spark plug, etc.) has lots of > resistance, > so if the switch in the trunk is "on" then the black/white wire is not > grounded. and when "off" the coil will ground itself out and no > power will be > making it to the dist. Right? > > If that's the case, I can isolate this variable in my not working > ignition by > disconnecting it in the trunk and making sure it isn't grounded. > > The wiring diagram does not indicate which side of the switch the > black and > white wire is actually on in the trunk. > > If not as described above, is it a "flow" item similar to the > ignition light > (charge/discharge) indicator? And if so, How do I then Isolate it. > > > > > > Jonas Payne > PBR > Cell: (702) 358-5084 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From varley at cosmos.net.au Fri May 11 15:05:19 2012 From: varley at cosmos.net.au (Larry Varley) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 07:05:19 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] I'm cleaning out my garage in Huntsville, AL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FAD7F0F.8080907@cosmos.net.au> Hello Pat, what a generous offer, it's reassuring to know there are still people in this world happy to help out others without making a buck. That's what I call a real car guy. I'd be there looking for little treasures if I wasn't on the other side of the world! Cheers, Larry On 12/05/2012 5:01 AM, Patrick Williams wrote: > I've got a bunch of Healey stuff, BN4 and BT7 that I will give away if > you come pick it up. Items include: > 4 wings - original ,OK shape with a little dogleg rust > steering column > aluminum cockpit surround pieces > misc carb parts HD6 > dash, bare aluminum > I'm downsizing my house and just don't have room for extra parts anymore. > Anyone from Atlanta, Nashville, etc interested? Did I say the stuff is free? > Pat Williams > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/varley at cosmos.net.au From rjcapo1 at yahoo.com Fri May 11 15:45:26 2012 From: rjcapo1 at yahoo.com (Ralph Cap) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 14:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] fog lights Message-ID: <1336772726.5709.YahooMailClassic@web120106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> hi all looking to attach fog lights by using the overdrive switch on the dash have a smitty concersion anyone out there have a diagram how to do it ,electrical isn't my forte From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri May 11 16:36:15 2012 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 15:36:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sad day Message-ID: Carroll Shelby has passed today at the age of 89. This is sad for all auto enthusiasts. He did so; much for all auto sports. Rich Kahn From lgalper1 at cox.net Fri May 11 17:35:53 2012 From: lgalper1 at cox.net (Lou G) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:35:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Carroll Shelby, Healey Racer, Dies at 89 Message-ID: <4FADA259.6050007@cox.net> We've all seen that great picture of Carroll Shelby and the crew around the 100 at Bonneville in 1954. ... Carrol Shelby, the Texan driver who competed in many European events during the 1954 season, took over and attacked the International Class D record for the hour, which was duly obtained at a speed of 156.7m.p.h. For this run, a 10-mile circle was used, a course which seemed almost one long straight when seen from behind the wheel of a normal saloon but which seemed more like a rather difficult fast bend from the Streamliner's cockpit. from http://www.austinmemories.com/page8/page21/page21.html From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Fri May 11 17:46:49 2012 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:46:49 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Electric Cooling Fan Message-ID: Thanks to the folks who responded. The big problem is to squeeze the fan either in front of behind the Healey radiator. I went to Barney Gaylord's *mgaguru.com*, where he had a discussion about using the fans. His comment was that they really don't solve the problem He described the issues with my MGC accurately. It heats up when running at speed, and cools down when the speed drops. He said that the problem was air flow, not the fan. Ed also suggested that an electric fan isn't necessarily the answer. Ill try and find an overflow tank for the Healey before looking further. For the MGC, I'll try getting the radiator cleaned out, and make sure that the timing is correct before trying the fan. I discovered, naturally be accident, that there is a supplemental Service sheet for North America that lists different timing then the manual. Once again, thanks! Jack From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri May 11 18:22:15 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 17:22:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sad day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In deed Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR On May 11, 2012 3:36 PM, "Richard Kahn" wrote: > Carroll Shelby has passed today at the age of 89. This is sad for all auto > enthusiasts. He did so; much for all auto sports. > Rich Kahn > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri May 11 18:49:23 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 20:49:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Difficulty Starting BN1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003101cd2fd9$12f2e790$38d8b6b0$@net> Eoin, The front carb lever will naturally be somewhat stiffer to move because it is also moving the rod with the fast idle cam, whereas the rear one has no extra such load I suspect as before, the little trunnion screw gripping the stirrup between the two levers has slipped again to the point where it is not gripping sufficient travel. Then because the stirrup will automatically try to equalize the pull between the two levers, it simply pulls much more on the rear one, therefore hardly any on the front. The remedy is again to carefully loosen the trunnion screw on the front lever, pull more of the wire stirrup down through until they seem equalized, and carefully tighten. I was always afraid to over tighten this trunnion screw and break off the head of the screw. That's why it has slipped again. Just for the enlightenment of the readers on this list, this is a freshly restored car, completed only last July so undue residue or buildup is not an issue here. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eoin Galvin Sent: May-11-12 8:42 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Difficulty Starting Hi all I am having trouble starting the car (BN1 July 54). I noticed that when I pulled the choke out the jet leaver on the front carburetor does not appear to move much. I disconnected the choke cable to the carbs and manually moved the Jet levers on both carbs. The rear carb leaver moves very freely and has a nice smooth action while the front carb leaver is tight and it takes a lot more effort to move. I removed the air filter on the front carb and moved the piston with my finger and it had a nice smooth movement so I am guessing nothing is binding inside the carb.B B Is the front jet leaver normally tight. If not what should I look at. Thanks B EoinB From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri May 11 19:33:09 2012 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 21:33:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] fog lights In-Reply-To: <1336772726.5709.YahooMailClassic@web120106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20120511213309.YLMXZ.876.root@pamxwww03-z01> why use the OD switch----move the parking lights to the main light switch and use the parking light sw for the fog lights. I did--works great. tom ---- Ralph Cap wrote: ============= hi all looking to attach fog lights by using the overdrive switch on the dash have a smitty concersion anyone out there have a diagram how to do it ,electrical isn't my forte Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From RCT2BNC at aol.com Fri May 11 19:40:04 2012 From: RCT2BNC at aol.com (RCT2BNC at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 21:40:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] 2 Arizona Bugeye Sprites looking for new home(s) Message-ID: <1d51a.e8f669f.3cdf1974@aol.com> Hi all, Itbs time to thin out the collection to make room for a new British acquisition b something more for living bon the edgeb. So, reluctantly I have to part with our 2 1960 Bugeye Sprites. So, before the E-Bay, Craigslist, Bring-a-Trailer, etc. begins, I wonder if some of you might want to adopt one or both of these cars. I have owned these Tucson, Arizona cars almost 20 years and they would be considered mostly as manufactured, middle of the road quality cars and very drivable. For the somewhat purists, both are 948 cc, smooth case gearbox, steel wheels and drum brakes. The RED one has dual H1 SU carbs and a nonstandard interior. The WHITE one runs a downdraft Weber and has MkII wheels. Both cars have participated in Arizona vintage tours of 800+ miles over the past years. There is a red factory hardtop also available that would fit either car. If youbre interested in one or both, contact me directly at _rct2bnc at aol.com_ (mailto:rct2bnc at aol.com) or 520 250 4453 for more details, pictures, prices and questions. If you want both Ibll throw in all spares, hardtop, parts, engine, etc. as a package. From mgcharlie at comcast.net Fri May 11 19:57:19 2012 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 21:57:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Electric Cooling Fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FADC37F.1060905@comcast.net> Jack, Either car has something that channels the air through the radiator to keep it from going around it. Make sure that all of the correct pieces are present to make sure that happens. The Healey has the air deflector in front of the radiator and the C has a seal that goes between the radiator and the hood. Seems to me that I've seen fan shrouds that go on the engine side for B's and C's. Charlie On 5/11/2012 7:46 PM, Jack Feldman wrote: > Thanks to the folks who responded. > > The big problem is to squeeze the fan either in front of behind the Healey > radiator. > > I went to Barney Gaylord's *mgaguru.com*, where he had a discussion about > using the fans. His comment was that they really don't solve the problem He > described the issues with my MGC accurately. It heats up when running at > speed, and cools down when the speed drops. He said that the problem was > air flow, not the fan. Ed also suggested that an electric fan isn't > necessarily the answer. > > Ill try and find an overflow tank for the Healey before looking further. > > For the MGC, I'll try getting the radiator cleaned out, and make sure that > the timing is correct before trying the fan. I discovered, naturally be > accident, that there is a supplemental Service sheet for North America that > lists different timing then the manual. > > Once again, thanks! > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net From alexmm at roadrunner.com Fri May 11 20:46:15 2012 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 22:46:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] fog lights References: <1336772726.5709.YahooMailClassic@web120106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5FDD59C7D2F5465DB28D2662AF70D9C8@atc0f226cd3237> Ralph, the attached file shows how I wired a relay to control my driving lights from a separate toggle switch along with the high beam switch. Works nicely. I close the switch and hit the high-beams on when I want the two Lucas driving lights to be operational (as well as the regular high beams). They lights go off when I hit the floor switch to low-beam. You should be able to adapt this to your fog light needs. If it doesn't come through, drop me an e-mail and I will re-send the file. If you need further help, feel free to call me at 207-967-8812. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 M.G. TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Cap" To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 5:45 PM Subject: [Healeys] fog lights > hi all looking to attach fog lights by using the overdrive switch on the > dash have a smitty concersion anyone out there have a diagram how to do it > ,electrical isn't my forte > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alexmm at roadrunner.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Healey_driving_light_wiring.jpg] From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri May 11 21:51:50 2012 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 20:51:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] fog lights In-Reply-To: <1336772726.5709.YahooMailClassic@web120106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1336772726.5709.YahooMailClassic@web120106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I replaced the single position dash light with a double position like the headlight/parking light switch. First pull is dash light, next position is dash plus fogs. Works fine. I've got them rigged to go off with the high beam. Rich Kahn > Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 14:45:26 -0700 > From: rjcapo1 at yahoo.com > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] fog lights > > hi all looking to attach fog lights by using the overdrive switch on the dash have a smitty concersion anyone out there have a diagram how to do it ,electrical isn't my forte > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat May 12 00:31:08 2012 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 08:31:08 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Electric Cooling Fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FAE03AC.9000202@chello.nl> Have the radiator recored with a core with higher cooling capacity. Having it cleaned out is generally a waste of time and money. Kees Oudesluijs Op 12-5-2012 1:46, Jack Feldman schreef: > Thanks to the folks who responded. > > The big problem is to squeeze the fan either in front of behind the Healey > radiator. > > I went to Barney Gaylord's *mgaguru.com*, where he had a discussion about > using the fans. His comment was that they really don't solve the problem He > described the issues with my MGC accurately. It heats up when running at > speed, and cools down when the speed drops. He said that the problem was > air flow, not the fan. Ed also suggested that an electric fan isn't > necessarily the answer. > > Ill try and find an overflow tank for the Healey before looking further. > > For the MGC, I'll try getting the radiator cleaned out, and make sure that > the timing is correct before trying the fan. I discovered, naturally be > accident, that there is a supplemental Service sheet for North America that > lists different timing then the manual. > > Once again, thanks! > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2012.0.1913 / Virusdatabase: 2425/4991 - datum van uitgifte: 05/11/12 > > -- Kees Oudesluijs Dorpsstraat 183 2995XG Heerjansdam T: 078-677 1233 E: coudesluijs at chello.nl Technische commissie Jensen Healey en GT Het Jensen Genootschap Holland www.jensenholland.nl From bgdrab at eastlink.ca Sat May 12 02:57:19 2012 From: bgdrab at eastlink.ca (Brian Drab) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 01:57:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvous 2012 Deadline Message-ID: <000001cd301d$3d3d1310$b7b73930$@eastlink.ca> May 15th is coming soon and that is the deadline for getting the preferred rate at Tigh Na Mara Seaside Resort, the site of Rendezvous 2012. If you plan on attending and have not yet registered and booked your accommodation, you could be running out of time. We have planned a truly great event with lots to see and do and all this in one of the most beautiful locations on the west coast. Tigh Na Mara is located near Parksville, on Vancouver Island, a 90 minute ferry ride from Washington State or Vancouver B.C. The ferry ride alone is worth the trip! For more information on this event go to our website at www.healeyrendezvous.com . See you there! Brian Drab - AHOABC From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sat May 12 07:22:25 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 07:22:25 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Difficulty Starting BN1 In-Reply-To: <003101cd2fd9$12f2e790$38d8b6b0$@net> References: <003101cd2fd9$12f2e790$38d8b6b0$@net> Message-ID: Rich, et al I always depress the accelerator pedal to WOT (wide open throttle) position when I pull the Choke knob out. This relieves the issue of the fast run cam.... BYARKT... dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Chrysler Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:49 PM To: 'Eoin Galvin'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Difficulty Starting BN1 Eoin, The front carb lever will naturally be somewhat stiffer to move because it is also moving the rod with the fast idle cam, whereas the rear one has no extra such load I suspect as before, the little trunnion screw gripping the stirrup between the two levers has slipped again to the point where it is not gripping sufficient travel. Then because the stirrup will automatically try to equalize the pull between the two levers, it simply pulls much more on the rear one, therefore hardly any on the front. The remedy is again to carefully loosen the trunnion screw on the front lever, pull more of the wire stirrup down through until they seem equalized, and carefully tighten. I was always afraid to over tighten this trunnion screw and break off the head of the screw. That's why it has slipped again. Just for the enlightenment of the readers on this list, this is a freshly restored car, completed only last July so undue residue or buildup is not an issue here. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eoin Galvin Sent: May-11-12 8:42 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Difficulty Starting Hi all I am having trouble starting the car (BN1 July 54). I noticed that when I pulled the choke out the jet leaver on the front carburetor does not appear to move much. I disconnected the choke cable to the carbs and manually moved the Jet levers on both carbs. The rear carb leaver moves very freely and has a nice smooth action while the front carb leaver is tight and it takes a lot more effort to move. I removed the air filter on the front carb and moved the piston with my finger and it had a nice smooth movement so I am guessing nothing is binding inside the carb.B B Is the front jet leaver normally tight. If not what should I look at. Thanks B EoinB Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com From bighealey at charter.net Sat May 12 07:57:44 2012 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 06:57:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvous 2012 Deadline In-Reply-To: <000001cd301d$3d3d1310$b7b73930$@eastlink.ca> References: <000001cd301d$3d3d1310$b7b73930$@eastlink.ca> Message-ID: <004301cd3047$34dbe550$9e93aff0$@charter.net> This will be another epic HWY 1 trip. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvous 2012 Deadline May 15th is coming soon and that is the deadline for getting the preferred rate at Tigh Na Mara Seaside Resort, the site of Rendezvous 2012. If you plan on attending and have not yet registered and booked your accommodation, you could be running out of time. We have planned a truly great event with lots to see and do and all this in one of the most beautiful locations on the west coast. Tigh Na Mara is located near Parksville, on Vancouver Island, a 90 minute ferry ride from Washington State or Vancouver B.C. The ferry ride alone is worth the trip! For more information on this event go to our website at www.healeyrendezvous.com . See you there! Brian Drab - AHOABC From bighealey at charter.net Sat May 12 08:17:01 2012 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 07:17:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] fog lights In-Reply-To: <1336772726.5709.YahooMailClassic@web120106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1336772726.5709.YahooMailClassic@web120106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004401cd3049$e7af8cc0$b70ea640$@charter.net> I used the OD switch (Smitty also) I wired to the low beams. I found a wiring with relay kit on eBay for 4 wheel drives for about 18$ that came with good wire. Simply put the relay acts as a switch. Hope this helps. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ralph Cap Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:45 PM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] fog lights hi all looking to attach fog lights by using the overdrive switch on the dash have a smitty concersion anyone out there have a diagram how to do it ,electrical isn't my forte _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Fog-light-wiring.jpg] From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sat May 12 09:46:57 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 08:46:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvous 2012 Deadline In-Reply-To: <004301cd3047$34dbe550$9e93aff0$@charter.net> References: <000001cd301d$3d3d1310$b7b73930$@eastlink.ca> <004301cd3047$34dbe550$9e93aff0$@charter.net> Message-ID: I have a spare bedroom in Portland, if anyone needs a place stay on the way north. Alas I am off of I 5 , not Hwy 1. Let me know off list. For me, no funds means no way for me to attend. At this point my car is still not running.... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR On May 12, 2012 6:57 AM, "Tracy Drummond" wrote: > This will be another epic HWY 1 trip. > > Warm Regards, > > Tracy Drummond > > > Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvous 2012 Deadline > > May 15th is coming soon and that is the deadline for getting the preferred > rate at Tigh Na Mara Seaside Resort, the site of Rendezvous 2012. > > If you plan on attending and have not yet registered and booked your > accommodation, you could be running out of time. We have planned a truly > great event with lots to see and do and all this in one of the most > beautiful locations on the west coast. Tigh Na Mara is located near > Parksville, on Vancouver Island, a 90 minute ferry ride from Washington > State or Vancouver B.C. The ferry ride alone is worth the trip! > > For more information on this event go to our website at > www.healeyrendezvous.com . See you there! > > Brian Drab - AHOABC > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com From jtrifari at comcast.net Sat May 12 10:15:52 2012 From: jtrifari at comcast.net (John Trifari) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 09:15:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] fog lights In-Reply-To: <5FDD59C7D2F5465DB28D2662AF70D9C8@atc0f226cd3237> References: <1336772726.5709.YahooMailClassic@web120106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5FDD59C7D2F5465DB28D2662AF70D9C8@atc0f226cd3237> Message-ID: <000c01cd305a$81414260$83c3c720$@net> I took power for the road lamps (not fog lights) off the high-beam side of the dip switch, and ran it to through a fuse to relay C1 terminal on the firewall. Connection to the lamps comes into the relay at C2. Run power to W1 and then connect W2 to a toggle switch then ground. Roads lamps Lights go on only toggle is thrown and high beams are on. Hit the dip switch to lower the lights and the road lamps turn off automatically. John Trifari Golden Gate AHC BN1 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alex Sent: FridI took power for the foggers off the high-beam side of the dip switchay, May 11, 2012 7:46 PM To: Ralph Cap; Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] fog lights Ralph, the attached file shows how I wired a relay to control my driving lights from a separate toggle switch along with the high beam switch. Works nicely. I close the switch and hit the high-beams on when I want the two Lucas driving lights to be operational (as well as the regular high beams). They lights go off when I hit the floor switch to low-beam. You should be able to adapt this to your fog light needs. If it doesn't come through, drop me an e-mail and I will re-send the file. If you need further help, feel free to call me at 207-967-8812. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 M.G. TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Cap" To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 5:45 PM Subject: [Healeys] fog lights > hi all looking to attach fog lights by using the overdrive switch on the > dash have a smitty concersion anyone out there have a diagram how to do it > ,electrical isn't my forte > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alexmm at roadrunner.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Healey_driving_light_wiring.jpg] Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtrifari at comcast.net From cvaselaar at earthlink.net Sat May 12 13:39:15 2012 From: cvaselaar at earthlink.net (Charlie Vaselaar) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 14:39:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Steering Wheel Boss - Fit Message-ID: <27907370.1336851556156.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> /local/mailman/lynxXXXX3uiNVl: Permission denied From llennep at verizon.net Sat May 12 16:31:38 2012 From: llennep at verizon.net (llennep at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 17:31:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] Need a fuse? Message-ID: <11877083.140214.1336861898246.JavaMail.root@vznit170132> Listers, I switched the power for my PU truck shell's interior lights to a hot wire today. I picked up a hot on a wire (maybe 10 gauge) which is to operate a boat winch. Formerly the hot was the rear running lights but I wanted to operate the shell light without having to turn on anything (the fixtures have switches). Q is should I add say a 5A in line fuse to these lights or should I depend on the fuse for the winch system? Thanks for any replies Keith From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sat May 12 19:38:38 2012 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 18:38:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] dwell Message-ID: I checked the dwell with two different meters. One read 30 the other 28. Book says 34. I called Jeff at Advanced Distributor who rebuilt it 2 years ago and he said not to use a dwell meter because the are all different and not that accurate. He suggested setting the gap at .016. I did that and the meter readings moved lower. The engine runs smooth. What gives? Rich Kahn From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sat May 12 22:10:03 2012 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 00:10:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Moment/Anderson Restoration Guide Message-ID: <4FAF341B.7080103@earthlink.net> Listers, The Austin-Healey 100/100-6/3000 Restoration Guide by Gary Anderson and Roger Moment is apparently now available in Google ebook format. I ran across it on Powell's Books' website: http://www.powells.com/biblio?show=ELECTRONIC:GOOGLE%20EBOOKS:9781610608145:31.02# It's $31.02, available to only US customers and is not printable. Cheers, Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php From ynotink at msn.com Sat May 12 22:33:39 2012 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 04:33:39 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] dwell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rubbing block wear. Bill Lawrence > From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 18:38:38 -0700 > Subject: [Healeys] dwell > > I checked the dwell with two different meters. One read 30 the other 28. Book > says 34. I called Jeff at Advanced Distributor who rebuilt it 2 years ago and > he said not to use a dwell meter because the are all different and not that > accurate. He suggested setting the gap at .016. I did that and the meter > readings moved lower. The engine runs smooth. What gives? > Rich Kahn > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat May 12 22:53:22 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (healey.nut at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 04:53:22 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] dwell Message-ID: Dwell and point gap are related, and as your points wear, the dwell will decrease, weakening your spark. The dwell meter is handy in that you can check your points wear without taking the dizzy out to check gap. Set to .16 and then check what the dwell meter says. Make a note of the dwel setting and then when you check dwell again, and it's changed more than a couple points, then take out the dizzy and reset the points again.... Or just get a pertronix ignitor module and be done with it.... forever. :) Alan ------Original Message------ From: Richard Kahn Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] dwell Sent: May 13, 2012 09:38 I checked the dwell with two different meters. One read 30 the other 28. Book says 34. I called Jeff at Advanced Distributor who rebuilt it 2 years ago and he said not to use a dwell meter because the are all different and not that accurate. He suggested setting the gap at .016. I did that and the meter readings moved lower. The engine runs smooth. What gives? Rich Kahn _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com Sent by BlackBerry. from PCCW mobile From richard.ewald at gmail.com Sat May 12 23:27:48 2012 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 22:27:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] dwell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <540F6F4F-C983-4E5B-8BD6-25F91FB47FBD@gmail.com> Well to start with you are reading the wrong scale. Secondly if the guy that built your distributor doesn't know this he is an idiot. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2012, at 18:38, Richard Kahn wrote: > I checked the dwell with two different meters. One read 30 the other 28. Book > says 34. I called Jeff at Advanced Distributor who rebuilt it 2 years ago and > he said not to use a dwell meter because the are all different and not that > accurate. He suggested setting the gap at .016. I did that and the meter > readings moved lower. The engine runs smooth. What gives? > Rich Kahn > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun May 13 01:00:30 2012 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 09:00:30 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] dwell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FAF5C0E.5040203@chello.nl> Dwell angle meters are actually quite accurate. It is setting the gap that is rather inaccurate, and depending on the skill of the (home) mechanic. After a few thousand miles the dwell angle will be off partly because of wear of the points, but these days also because of the plastic lobe that runs on the cams of the distributor shaft. In the ol' days this lobe was made of fiber and lasted much better, also the poits were of a different material that did not wear as fast as the modern ones made in India, China, Vietnam or whatever. Chuck the the points and go electronic. Costs little money, from as cheap as $50 or even less, and if fitted properly lasts a lifetime without needing attention to the timing. The only disadvantage is that you tend to forget to service the distributor regularly. It still needs the odd drop of oil on top of the shaft and the occasional squirt of thin oil or WD40 on the weights and springs under the base plate. Kees Oudesluijs NL Op 13-5-2012 3:38, Richard Kahn schreef: > I checked the dwell with two different meters. One read 30 the other 28. Book > says 34. I called Jeff at Advanced Distributor who rebuilt it 2 years ago and > he said not to use a dwell meter because the are all different and not that > accurate. He suggested setting the gap at .016. I did that and the meter > readings moved lower. The engine runs smooth. What gives? > Rich Kahn > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2012.0.1913 / Virusdatabase: 2425/4993 - datum van uitgifte: 05/12/12 > > -- Kees Oudesluijs Dorpsstraat 183 2995XG Heerjansdam T: 078-677 1233 E: coudesluijs at chello.nl Technische commissie Jensen Healey en GT Het Jensen Genootschap Holland www.jensenholland.nl From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun May 13 06:19:18 2012 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 8:19:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] dwell In-Reply-To: <20120513054517.42EE22D09EE@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <20120513081919.HY811.44751.root@pamxwww08-z01> On of the reasons I went to Pertronix years ago. tom ---- healey.nut at gmail.com wrote: ============= Dwell and point gap are related, and as your points wear, the dwell will decrease, weakening your spark. The dwell meter is handy in that you can check your points wear without taking the dizzy out to check gap. Set to .16 and then check what the dwell meter says. Make a note of the dwel setting and then when you check dwell again, and it's changed more than a couple points, then take out the dizzy and reset the points again.... Or just get a pertronix ignitor module and be done with it.... forever. :) Alan ------Original Message------ From: Richard Kahn Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] dwell Sent: May 13, 2012 09:38 I checked the dwell with two different meters. One read 30 the other 28. Book says 34. I called Jeff at Advanced Distributor who rebuilt it 2 years ago and he said not to use a dwell meter because the are all different and not that accurate. He suggested setting the gap at .016. I did that and the meter readings moved lower. The engine runs smooth. What gives? Rich Kahn From agrossman at pacific.net Sun May 13 07:37:15 2012 From: agrossman at pacific.net (Alan Grossman) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 06:37:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] dwell In-Reply-To: <540F6F4F-C983-4E5B-8BD6-25F91FB47FBD@gmail.com> References: <540F6F4F-C983-4E5B-8BD6-25F91FB47FBD@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't understand either of these statements. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ewald" To: "Richard Kahn" Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] dwell > Well to start with you are reading the wrong scale. > Secondly if the guy that built your distributor doesn't know this he is an > idiot. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 12, 2012, at 18:38, Richard Kahn wrote: > >> I checked the dwell with two different meters. One read 30 the other 28. > Book >> says 34. I called Jeff at Advanced Distributor who rebuilt it 2 years >> ago > and >> he said not to use a dwell meter because the are all different and not >> that >> accurate. He suggested setting the gap at .016. I did that and the meter >> readings moved lower. The engine runs smooth. What gives? >> Rich Kahn >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/agrossman at pacific.net From jwhlyadv at aol.com Sun May 13 08:14:59 2012 From: jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jim Werner) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 10:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Louisville Message-ID: <8CEFF29EA2F0B1A-1D08-3AB59@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com> Only 34 days until Conclave Louisville! We currently have more than 225 registrations and Ben Moore and his crew have put together a exciting Conclave for you. May 15 is the deadline for Regalia pre-orders. Room blocks at the Crowne Plaza will be released on May 15 so make your reservations soon. For more information visit http://www.2012conclave.com/ Join us in Louisville! Jim Werner Louisville, KY From dpaye at crocker.com Sun May 13 09:11:01 2012 From: dpaye at crocker.com (Donald Paye) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 11:11:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] removal of listing Message-ID: <49C796202B0B4A4C9B1B171EEF228B43@DonaldPayePC> Please remove my name/listing from any future mailings ....thank you.. Don Paye dpaye at crocker.com From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sun May 13 09:39:53 2012 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 11:39:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] dwell In-Reply-To: References: <540F6F4F-C983-4E5B-8BD6-25F91FB47FBD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FAFD5C9.5030009@earthlink.net> Dwell is the period, measured in degrees of distributor rotation, that the points are closed. If you increase the point gap, the points will be open for a longer period, meaning the dwell will be shorter. For a 6 cylinder, the dwell should be on the order of 30-35 degrees; for a 4 cylinder, somewhere around 45 degrees. The factory workshop manual I have doesn't give dwell, but gives the points gap to be 0.014-0.016". Cheers, Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php From richard.ewald at gmail.com Sun May 13 10:37:26 2012 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 09:37:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] dwell In-Reply-To: References: <540F6F4F-C983-4E5B-8BD6-25F91FB47FBD@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dwell is a measurement of the angle between when the points close and when they open again. Roughly speaking the points are going to be open about 120 degrees out of the 360 degrees in a full circle. That leave 240 degrees (approx) of closed time divided by the number of cam lobes. So take a 4 cylinder engine has 4 lobes on the dist cam we have 240/4= 60 degrees of dwell. Depending on engine design the range for these engines is 58-62 typically. A 6 cylinder engine gives us 240/6= 40 with a typical range of 38-44 degrees. A V8 has twice the lobes of a 4 cylinder so you have 30 degrees with a range of about 28-32 degrees. Analog dwell meters typically have two scales a 6 cylinder scale and an 8 cylinder scale with a note to double the readings if you have a four cylinder. So if someone with a six cylinder engine says they have the dwell set at 30 degrees either they are reading the 8 cylinder scale or their points are WAY WAY off. Anyone who works with distributors who doesn't realize that 30 degrees is the wrong scale for a six cylinder in .001 seconds is an idiot IMHO. BTW a couple of notes about dwell. Set points to the minimum end of the spec range. As the rubbing block wears the points will be closed more and the dwell will rise. By setting to min you ensure they stay in the proper range. After you have them set correctly rev the engine and watch the dwell it should not change by more than a degree or so. If the bushings in the distributor are bad the dwell will jump all over the place. Rick Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2012, at 6:37, "Alan Grossman" wrote: > I don't understand either of these statements. From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun May 13 13:52:19 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 15:52:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] New Pos111t on my Blog..a Real Mindbender Message-ID: Again this is intended only for those who are particularly interested in the finest details of an early 100. http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=911 -- Michael Salter *I have BJ8 water pump kits!!* From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Sun May 13 16:38:44 2012 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 15:38:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Float bowl needles Message-ID: <76C70042D1804073823C649657EC1A28@XPS400> I need to open up my float bowls to look for sticking needles or something that is causing my carbs to flood. It happens when I try to start the engine again after a long drive. It will eventually start, but with a lot of gas smell which I assume is the flooding. No other problems. Runs great. What are current opinions about new needles (Moss advertising Viton Tip) or Grose-Jets?? Ron Fine From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sun May 13 17:38:10 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 17:38:10 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Float bowl needles In-Reply-To: <76C70042D1804073823C649657EC1A28@XPS400> References: <76C70042D1804073823C649657EC1A28@XPS400> Message-ID: Ron, It sounds like you bowls aren't correctly vented. You must have the ( I call it a tri-hat washer) either the early aluminum or the red fiber ones. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 4:39 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Float bowl needles I need to open up my float bowls to look for sticking needles or something that is causing my carbs to flood. It happens when I try to start the engine again after a long drive. It will eventually start, but with a lot of gas smell which I assume is the flooding. No other problems. Runs great. What are current opinions about new needles (Moss advertising Viton Tip) or Grose-Jet From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Sun May 13 17:40:04 2012 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (Jose Vicente Vargas) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 18:40:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Float bowl needles In-Reply-To: <76C70042D1804073823C649657EC1A28@XPS400> References: <76C70042D1804073823C649657EC1A28@XPS400> Message-ID: <0173EBF5-BF68-418A-A0E5-D5AF476981DC@yahoo.com> Since ethanol became part of my life I have had a lot of problems with grose jets and went back to standard needles from moss. Result= no more flooding or problem. Maybe my new needles are viton type. Jose Bogota, Colombia Sent from my iPad On 13/05/2012, at 5:38 p.m., "Ron Fine" wrote: > I need to open up my float bowls to look for sticking needles or something > that is causing my carbs to flood. It happens when I try to start the engine > again after a long drive. It will eventually start, but with a lot of gas > smell which I assume is the flooding. No other problems. Runs great. > > What are current opinions about new needles (Moss advertising Viton Tip) or > Grose-Jets?? > > Ron Fine > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From warthodson at aol.com Sun May 13 17:49:56 2012 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 19:49:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Float bowl needles In-Reply-To: <76C70042D1804073823C649657EC1A28@XPS400> References: <76C70042D1804073823C649657EC1A28@XPS400> Message-ID: <8CEFF7A3C1FEF80-14CC-78D2E@webmail-m027.sysops.aol.com> If the float needles are sticking open you will see raw gas dripping on the ground from the overflow tubes assuming your car still has overflow tubes that are not clogged up. I don't think thsi is your cause of "flooding". Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Ron Fine To: healeys Sent: Sun, May 13, 2012 6:25 pm Subject: [Healeys] Float bowl needles I need to open up my float bowls to look for sticking needles or something that is causing my carbs to flood. It happens when I try to start the engine again after a long drive. It will eventually start, but with a lot of gas smell which I assume is the flooding. No other problems. Runs great. What are current opinions about new needles (Moss advertising Viton Tip) or Grose-Jets?? Ron Fine Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun May 13 17:58:41 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 07:58:41 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Float bowl needles In-Reply-To: <76C70042D1804073823C649657EC1A28@XPS400> References: <76C70042D1804073823C649657EC1A28@XPS400> Message-ID: Ron - Do you have a BN1/BN2? If so that will change this answer slightly. Generally speaking if your float bowls are leaking, changing the jets or putting it Grose jets will not fix the problem. Leaking usually is from either incorrectly adjusted float levers which jam the needle open, or more commonly from crud in your fuel. If you don't have a fuel filter on your car, I highly suggest you put one on. Also, if you have a sunken float, that will cause leaking problems as well. I recommend switching to Nitrophyl floats, I've sunk ALOT of floats in my day... and I'm still in my 40's! http://www.bpnorthwest.com/.sc/ms/dd/AH%20BN1-BJ8--Carburetion%20Fuel%20Syste m/10766/Carburetor%20Float%20H-Type%20and%20HD%20Type%20Nitrophyl Best, Alan On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Ron Fine wrote: > I need to open up my float bowls to look for sticking needles or something > that is causing my carbs to flood. It happens when I try to start the engine > again after a long drive. It will eventually start, but with a lot of gas > smell which I assume is the flooding. No other problems. Runs great. > > What are current opinions about new needles (Moss advertising Viton Tip) or > Grose-Jets?? > > Ron Fine > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From mark at bradakis.com Sun May 13 18:58:34 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 18:58:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] removal of listing In-Reply-To: <49C796202B0B4A4C9B1B171EEF228B43@DonaldPayePC> References: <49C796202B0B4A4C9B1B171EEF228B43@DonaldPayePC> Message-ID: <4FB058BA.5090407@bradakis.com> Donald Paye wrote: > Please remove my name/listing from any future mailings ....thank you.. Don > Paye I'm assuming when you clicked on the unsubscribe link at the bottom of each message, it didn't work. What, exactly happened? I thought it was working: http://www.team.net/status.html mjb. From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sun May 13 20:58:35 2012 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 19:58:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] dwell In-Reply-To: <540F6F4F-C983-4E5B-8BD6-25F91FB47FBD@gmail.com> References: , <540F6F4F-C983-4E5B-8BD6-25F91FB47FBD@gmail.com> Message-ID: You are wrong on both statements. > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > From: richard.ewald at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Healeys] dwell > Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 22:27:48 -0700 > To: tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > Well to start with you are reading the wrong scale. > Secondly if the guy that built your distributor doesn't know this he is an idiot. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 12, 2012, at 18:38, Richard Kahn wrote: > > > I checked the dwell with two different meters. One read 30 the other 28. Book > > says 34. I called Jeff at Advanced Distributor who rebuilt it 2 years ago and > > he said not to use a dwell meter because the are all different and not that > > accurate. He suggested setting the gap at .016. I did that and the meter > > readings moved lower. The engine runs smooth. What gives? > > Rich Kahn > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From dpaye at crocker.com Mon May 14 04:57:42 2012 From: dpaye at crocker.com (Donald Paye) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 06:57:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] dwell In-Reply-To: <4FAFD5C9.5030009@earthlink.net> References: <540F6F4F-C983-4E5B-8BD6-25F91FB47FBD@gmail.com> <4FAFD5C9.5030009@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1C5C733D6224485DBFC71162B91D72AC@DonaldPayePC> Sorry for the error on my part ..... must have been a senior moment!!! many thanks for the instructions. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Haskell" To: "Alan Grossman" Cc: "Healey" Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] dwell > Dwell is the period, measured in degrees of distributor rotation, that the > points are closed. If you increase the point gap, the points will be open > for a longer period, meaning the dwell will be shorter. > > For a 6 cylinder, the dwell should be on the order of 30-35 degrees; for a > 4 cylinder, somewhere around 45 degrees. > > The factory workshop manual I have doesn't give dwell, but gives the > points gap to be 0.014-0.016". > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar > http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dpaye at crocker.com From austin.healey at gmail.com Mon May 14 09:16:14 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 01:16:14 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] dwell In-Reply-To: References: <540F6F4F-C983-4E5B-8BD6-25F91FB47FBD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2B081FE8-B54B-47DE-8DE8-8964036B131A@gmail.com> With all due respect, guys. I never stir up people on this list! ;-) But Seriously. We all make assumptions. I think you both did. Personally, let's just make this about facts. Is that fair???? Ok. Facts. 1. Richard K. You didn't specify which distributor you had. DM6? 25D6? Which model Lucas? Is it even a Lucas? Modified engine? All bets are off if it isn't ... You know different Lucas cams have different dwell angles? They aren't all identical?? 2. Richard E. Mate. You've done this a thousand times, but mostly with the distributor in your hand... Where you can look, measure, and refer to books, because you know they arent all the same... You offered your expertise based on assumptions - and rules of thumb. Yeah. Good rules of thumb - but still... We all know Lucas distributors have more dwell. Generally, Lucas points stay closed longer. My guess why?? Crap Lucas coils.... Mallory are different. BUT - If Richard K didn't say, you can't assume? Ok Richard E? Guys. I love a good argument!! ;-) But only if it's factual, and educational, and entertaining, and if everyone plays the ball. Not the man. Ok. So it's my throw in.... It's Rugby!! So..... Personally, I think dwell is a waste of time, and is only for blokes with expensive instruments, who can't correctly use a cheap feeler guage. Ok? Just play the ball... ;-) Sincerely. Chris www.myaustinhealey.com Sent from my iPhone On 14/05/2012, at 12:58 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > You are wrong on both statements. > >> CC: healeys at autox.team.net >> From: richard.ewald at gmail.com >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] dwell >> Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 22:27:48 -0700 >> To: tahoehealey at hotmail.com >> >> Well to start with you are reading the wrong scale. >> Secondly if the guy that built your distributor doesn't know this he is an > idiot. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 12, 2012, at 18:38, Richard Kahn wrote: >> >>> I checked the dwell with two different meters. One read 30 the other 28. > Book >>> says 34. I called Jeff at Advanced Distributor who rebuilt it 2 years ago > and >>> he said not to use a dwell meter because the are all different and not > that >>> accurate. He suggested setting the gap at .016. I did that and the meter >>> readings moved lower. The engine runs smooth. What gives? >>> Rich Kahn From JPayne at ThorCon.net Mon May 14 14:06:38 2012 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 20:06:38 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Problem BJ8 Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A97B0C2@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> For the past 2 weeks, my car has been starting just fine, and can run at idle indefinitely, but within minutes of taking off for a drive, conks out and will not restart - no spark. Initially, after a few minutes, the car would restart and run for about 30 to 40 seconds before conking out again. Finally it would not start at all. At that point, I swapped out the coil and condenser with one from an operating car and it still wouldn't start. Over the weekend, I disconnected the "security circuit" at both ends, and also discovered that the nylon washer /capacitor/ground/ points post in the dist. Were assembled in the wrong order. Upon fixing this, the car fired right up. Today, it fired right up, warmed up to operating temp, and within 1 minute of running, conked out and will not restart. Any ideas? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From happolk at cox.net Mon May 14 16:39:50 2012 From: happolk at cox.net (Harlan Polk) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 15:39:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Problem BJ8 In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A97B0C2@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> References: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A97B0C2@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <001801cd3222$79794540$6c6bcfc0$@cox.net> Jonas, Sounds like a heat soak related open or short circuit. In swapping the coil and condenser, you arrested the key suspects. I would bet even after the swap, the condenser is shorting when hot. Other possibilities are a carbon track in the distributor cap from center contact to one spark plug or to the distributor housing, or a breakdown of the coil to distribution high tension wire insulation, or an open in the coil low voltage wire or ground. I suggest first moving this wire so it has different near touching or grounding points, exchanging it end to end would do this. Next would be a careful inspection of the distributor cap. Then running a parallel patch wire from ignition hot to the coil. After that I join you in confusion. A graduate of the US Army Command and General Staff College share with me one of their teachings "If you are not confused, you do not understand the situation." Perhaps we "understand" it together. Hap -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jonas Payne Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 1:07 PM To: 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Problem BJ8 For the past 2 weeks, my car has been starting just fine, and can run at idle indefinitely, but within minutes of taking off for a drive, conks out and will not restart - no spark. Initially, after a few minutes, the car would restart and run for about 30 to 40 seconds before conking out again. Finally it would not start at all. At that point, I swapped out the coil and condenser with one from an operating car and it still wouldn't start. Over the weekend, I disconnected the "security circuit" at both ends, and also discovered that the nylon washer /capacitor/ground/ points post in the dist. Were assembled in the wrong order. Upon fixing this, the car fired right up. Today, it fired right up, warmed up to operating temp, and within 1 minute of running, conked out and will not restart. Any ideas? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/happolk at cox.net From jarowe at westnet.com.au Mon May 14 17:30:50 2012 From: jarowe at westnet.com.au (John Rowe) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 07:30:50 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Problem BJ8 In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A97B0C2@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> References: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A97B0C2@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <4FB195AA.6020205@westnet.com.au> Jonas What happened before the last 2 weeks? Has anything been worked on or changed just before then? cheers John Rowe Perth On 15/05/2012 4:06 AM, Jonas Payne wrote: > For the past 2 weeks, my car has been starting just fine, and can run at idle > indefinitely, but within minutes of taking off for a drive, conks out and will > not restart - no spark. Initially, after a few minutes, the car would restart > and run for about 30 to 40 seconds before conking out again. > > Finally it would not start at all. At that point, I swapped out the coil and > condenser with one from an operating car and it still wouldn't start. > > Over the weekend, I disconnected the "security circuit" at both ends, and also > discovered that the nylon washer /capacitor/ground/ points post in the dist. > Were assembled in the wrong order. Upon fixing this, the car fired right up. > > Today, it fired right up, warmed up to operating temp, and within 1 minute of > running, conked out and will not restart. > > Any ideas? > > > Jonas Payne > PBR > Cell: (702) 358-5084 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jarowe at westnet.com.au From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon May 14 18:11:30 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 08:11:30 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Problem BJ8 In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A97B0C2@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> References: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A97B0C2@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: Jonas - I used to have a similar problem with my BJ8. I eventually solved the problem by chasing down the white wire from the coil, to the tachometer, to the ignition switch and making sure that wire had clean firm connections all the way from the ignition switch to the coil. I later determined that corrosion on the Lucar terminals, and the part where the wire went into the Lucar female (on the harness) had corrosion on it to where when the wire heated up, the resistance would increase and I would start losing spark. Of course I would get some warning with a sputtering ignition for a bit until it would conk out. This little white wire gets more current than any other wire in the harness and should have very good connections for your ignition to work properly. Also try swapping your cap and rotor. A final thing to check is if you are using modern suppressed ignition wires with your lucas distributor, this could also be a problem. You should only use solid core wire with a lucas distributor. Modern suppressed wires can lose their ability to conduct electricity when stuck in an old vibrating lucas distributor. Hope that helps. Alan On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Jonas Payne wrote: > For the past 2 weeks, my car has been starting just fine, and can run at idle > indefinitely, but within minutes of taking off for a drive, conks out and will > not restart - no spark. Initially, after a few minutes, the car would restart > and run for about 30 to 40 seconds before conking out again. > > Finally it would not start at all. At that point, I swapped out the coil and > condenser with one from an operating car and it still wouldn't start. > > Over the weekend, I disconnected the "security circuit" at both ends, and also > discovered that the nylon washer /capacitor/ground/ points post in the dist. > Were assembled in the wrong order. Upon fixing this, the car fired right up. > > Today, it fired right up, warmed up to operating temp, and within 1 minute of > running, conked out and will not restart. > > Any ideas? > > > Jonas Payne > PBR > Cell: (702) 358-5084 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From cvaselaar at earthlink.net Mon May 14 23:56:27 2012 From: cvaselaar at earthlink.net (Charlie Vaselaar) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 00:56:27 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Steering Wheel Boss - Fit Message-ID: <18381971.1337061388136.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> /local/mailman/lynxXXXX29N10w: Permission denied From JPayne at ThorCon.net Tue May 15 09:03:20 2012 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 15:03:20 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Problem BJ8 In-Reply-To: <4FB195AA.6020205@westnet.com.au> References: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A97B0C2@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> <4FB195AA.6020205@westnet.com.au> Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A97C937@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> Ignition problem resolved - the incorrect installation order of the capacitor and ground lead in relation to the nylon bush on the points post was causing the coil to arc out across its terminals. This problem was fixed over the weekend and a re-charge on the battery yesterday resolved the start issue but didn't resolve the conking out issue. Another stall out yesterday that was immediately rectified by pulling the choke out on a hot engine (thus indicating that the fuel level in the bowls was low) indicated a fuel delivery problem, which was confirmed when I got home in emails from several listers (thanks!!!). Pulled the line on the lead carb and turned on the ignition, and the fuel pump is only providing a trickle, and nowhere near enough to run the car at anything other than idle. The fuel pump is new, the tank is new and all the lines are new. The pump sound and reaction at the front would appear to indicate a blockage on the "force end" of the system as opposed to the suction end the pump, but I plan on pulling the lines and determining that tonight. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From phoenix722 at comcast.net Tue May 15 09:41:50 2012 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 08:41:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] brakes Message-ID: <02B25E17FDBC49AE925748FABA12D46B@Mike> After a lot of work tracing a leak at my rear wheel brakes on my 100M, I have narrowed it down to the wheel cylinder itself. It's been so long since I worked on this car, I'm not up to date on where to buy parts. I did look at Moss, but couldn't find it. Any suggestions? Also, plan to buy some nuts for the hub attach, if I can find them. TIA Mike From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue May 15 10:40:06 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 10:40:06 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] heads up.. collectors Message-ID: <95AC9630C3FF4569ADF91162C57159A4@oscar> frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world On the Home page of this 'Pickers" outfit it a pretty cool healey porcelain sign. http://www.americanpickerswarehouse.com/Austin-Healey-Automobile-Car-Porcela in-Sign_p_652.html I know nothing about this outfit. I just stumbled on it last night and thought there might be someone interested in it.. I don't know if it's old or new or a reproduction.. I'm just passing on the link. Too rich for my blood. dp From healeyrick at yahoo.com Tue May 15 13:33:18 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 12:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] heads up.. collectors In-Reply-To: <95AC9630C3FF4569ADF91162C57159A4@oscar> Message-ID: <1337110398.37445.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Looks just like the one Triple C has on eBay for $24.95: http://tinyurl.com/cxfsee3 Maybe American Pocket Picker's Warehouse? Doesn't look like it's connected to the History Channel show but trying to give that impression. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Tue, 5/15/12, David Porter wrote: From: David Porter Subject: [Healeys] heads up.. collectors To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 12:40 PM frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world On the Home page of this 'Pickers" outfit it a pretty cool healey porcelain sign. http://www.americanpickerswarehouse.com/Austin-Healey-Automobile-Car-Porcela in-Sign_p_652.html I know nothing about this outfit. I just stumbled on it last night and thought there might be someone interested in it.. I don't know if it's old or new or a reproduction.. I'm just passing on the link. Too rich for my blood. dp Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From healeyron at yahoo.com Tue May 15 14:24:23 2012 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 13:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] heads up.. collectors In-Reply-To: <95AC9630C3FF4569ADF91162C57159A4@oscar> References: <95AC9630C3FF4569ADF91162C57159A4@oscar> Message-ID: <1337113463.18553.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> If you can't live without it you can Buy It Now on ebay for $24.95 + $7.30 shipping. Here is the link. http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUSTIN-HEALEY-LOGO-GENUINE-PORCELAIN-ENAMEL-SIGN-/300 582621710?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fc1ed20e There are 7 left out of the 15 that were available. Ron Mitchell BN6 BN7 ________________________________ From: David Porter To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: [Healeys] heads up.. collectors frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world On the Home page of this 'Pickers" outfit it a pretty cool healey porcelain sign. http://www.americanpickerswarehouse.com/Austin-Healey-Automobile-Car-Porcela in-Sign_p_652.html I know nothing about this outfit. I just stumbled on it last night and thought there might be someone interested in it.. I don't know if it's old or new or a reproduction.. I'm just passing on the link. Too rich for my blood. dp _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyron at yahoo.com From ed at wadsworth-eng.com Tue May 15 15:14:47 2012 From: ed at wadsworth-eng.com (Ed O'Neal) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 21:14:47 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer calibration Message-ID: BT7 - Are there any good articles or documents on how to calibrate a smiths speedometer? From Editorgary at aol.com Tue May 15 16:51:43 2012 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 18:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale Message-ID: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin Healey 100-M " they have for sale. http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 What do you think? G/ From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue May 15 16:57:45 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (healey.nut at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 22:57:45 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer calibration Message-ID: There's a PDF article that talks about this on John Sim's website. It's complicated to say the least. ------Original Message------ From: Ed O'Neal Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer calibration Sent: May 16, 2012 05:14 BT7 - Are there any good articles or documents on how to calibrate a smiths speedometer? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com Sent by BlackBerry. from PCCW mobile From austin.healey at gmail.com Tue May 15 17:08:52 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:08:52 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Problem BJ8 In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A97C937@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> References: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A97B0C2@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> <4FB195AA.6020205@westnet.com.au> <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C1A97C937@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <190373B1-4333-4DD9-B5C6-DEF1AF204D63@gmail.com> Hey Jonas, Good to hear you've narrowed it down. Although its a new tank, check that the tank pickup isn't blocked. Is it an SU pump? Couple of issues here. There are SU suck pumps, and SU push pumps. Suck pumps are meant to be mounted in the engine bay. If you put a SU suck pump near the tank, you'll only get a dribble at the carbs. Check the model number if the pump you've got. Second possibility is its a low rated Su pump, e.g off a mini or sprite. These pumps deliver about half the volume of fuel a BJ8 spec pump delivers. Other option is a blocked filter, or a kink in the fuel line (look around the front crossmember where the fuel line makes 90 degree turns); or a perforated diaphragm in the new pump. Good luck! Best Chris Sent from my iPhone On 16/05/2012, at 1:03 AM, Jonas Payne wrote: > Ignition problem resolved - the incorrect installation order of the capacitor > and ground lead in relation to the nylon bush on the points post was causing > the coil to arc out across its terminals. > > This problem was fixed over the weekend and a re-charge on the battery > yesterday resolved the start issue but didn't resolve the conking out issue. > > Another stall out yesterday that was immediately rectified by pulling the > choke out on a hot engine (thus indicating that the fuel level in the bowls > was low) indicated a fuel delivery problem, which was confirmed when I got > home in emails from several listers (thanks!!!). Pulled the line on the lead > carb and turned on the ignition, and the fuel pump is only providing a > trickle, and nowhere near enough to run the car at anything other than idle. > > The fuel pump is new, the tank is new and all the lines are new. The pump > sound and reaction at the front would appear to indicate a blockage on the > "force end" of the system as opposed to the suction end the pump, but I plan > on pulling the lines and determining that tonight. > > Jonas Payne From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue May 15 17:26:36 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 19:26:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer calibration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <012701cd32f2$2ca5f300$85f1d900$@verizon.net> Look Technical page, Gauge section of my site for several articles. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed O'Neal Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:15 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer calibration BT7 - Are there any good articles or documents on how to calibrate a smiths speedometer? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Tue May 15 19:09:46 2012 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (Jose Vicente Vargas) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 20:09:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> Message-ID: <9CDBC5BA-EC72-4E2F-AA4F-92E59C0CE2DA@yahoo.com> For a 135 k car they should have more pictures available. For what I see the engine bay needs a lt of work, increect colors and the dashboard and the white seats...omg Sent from my iPad On 15/05/2012, at 5:51 p.m., Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin > Healey 100-M " they have for sale. > > http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 > > What do you think? > > G/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue May 15 12:39:43 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 11:39:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] brakes In-Reply-To: <02B25E17FDBC49AE925748FABA12D46B@Mike> References: <02B25E17FDBC49AE925748FABA12D46B@Mike> Message-ID: Mike, I don't know where you're looking, but a quick search at Moss turned up this... 021-159 $20.95 WHEEL CYLINDER ASSEMBLY, Classic Gold BN1 from C.E.221536, BN2, BN4, BN6 Also check out AH Spares in England... BRK197G WHEEL CYLINDER-rear BN1.221536-BN6 $69.44 40 BRK197 WHEEL CYLINDER-rear BN1.221536-BN6 $40.92 40 Curt On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Mike Sinclair wrote: > After a lot of work tracing a leak at my rear wheel brakes on my 100M, I > have > narrowed it down to the wheel cylinder itself. It's been so long since I > worked on this car, I'm not up to date on where to buy parts. I did look > at > Moss, but couldn't find it. Any suggestions? Also, plan to buy some nuts > for > the hub attach, if I can find them. > > TIA > Mike > _______________________________________________ From shop at justbrits.com Tue May 15 22:13:41 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 23:13:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] heads up.. collectors In-Reply-To: <1337113463.18553.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <95AC9630C3FF4569ADF91162C57159A4@oscar> <1337113463.18553.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FB32975.2010902@justbrits.com> "7 available / 8 sold " On 5/15/2012 3:24 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > If you can't live without it you can Buy It Now on ebay for $24.95 + $7.30 > shipping. Here is the link. Kinda like yer link Ron, "dat don't work" ! ! From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue May 15 18:41:40 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 17:41:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> Message-ID: Gary, Wow, where to start. I notice they say nothing about a complete restoration since there probably wasn't one done . Other than the flashy finned valve cover, missing its original knurled knobs and oil filler cap, the rest of the engine looks rather tatty. The interior is an abortion, carpet instead of Armacord, incorrect door panels, and those seats are tacky. Incorrect chrome headlight rims red painted brake drums and I'm sure the list goes on. It needs a complete and proper restoration to justify that price. Just my humble opinion. Curt On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:51 PM, wrote: > Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin > Healey 100-M " they have for sale. > > http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 > > What do you think? > > G/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Tue May 15 22:59:17 2012 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 06:59:17 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] brakes In-Reply-To: <02B25E17FDBC49AE925748FABA12D46B@Mike> References: <02B25E17FDBC49AE925748FABA12D46B@Mike> Message-ID: AH4H? http://www.ahead4healeys.co.uk/ Gergo 2012/5/15 Mike Sinclair > After a lot of work tracing a leak at my rear wheel brakes on my 100M, I > have > narrowed it down to the wheel cylinder itself. It's been so long since I > worked on this car, I'm not up to date on where to buy parts. I did look > at > Moss, but couldn't find it. Any suggestions? Also, plan to buy some nuts > for > the hub attach, if I can find them. > > TIA > Mike > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Tue May 15 23:01:46 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 22:01:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <9CDBC5BA-EC72-4E2F-AA4F-92E59C0CE2DA@yahoo.com> References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> <9CDBC5BA-EC72-4E2F-AA4F-92E59C0CE2DA@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FB334BA.2010206@comcast.net> Looks like serious door gap issues on passenger side (why no photos of driver's side?). Inaccurate '100S' -style paint scheme. Do not care for the red drums ('redrum ... redrum ... redrum ...'). Rubber 'cold side' heater hose (for $135K I'd expect copper tubing). I think I'd want to see more than a BMIHT cert these days. Bob On 5/15/2012 6:09 PM, Jose Vicente Vargas wrote: > For a 135 k car they should have more pictures available. For what I see the > engine bay needs a lt of work, increect colors and the dashboard and the white > seats...omg > > Sent from my iPad > > On 15/05/2012, at 5:51 p.m., Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > >> Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin >> Healey 100-M " they have for sale. >> >> http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 >> >> What do you think? >> >> G/ >> >> -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From gardner5 at comcast.net Wed May 16 00:58:24 2012 From: gardner5 at comcast.net (gardner5 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 06:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1385418343.584292.1337151504933.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Agree that much is not correct and that's what can be seen in only a handful of general pics. Makes you question everything else. Definitely would walk away from this one, or maybe even run. Disagree with the the comment that a properly restored factory M would be $135K, a decent older restoration sold at RM for $162K in Jan. 2012, and another private sale of a nicer factory M just this month is reported at approximately $175K. Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: Editorgary at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:41:40 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale Gary, Wow, where to start. I notice they say nothing about a complete restoration since there probably wasn't one done . Other than the flashy finned valve cover, missing its original knurled knobs and oil filler cap, the rest of the engine looks rather tatty. The interior is an abortion, carpet instead of Armacord, incorrect door panels, and those seats are tacky. Incorrect chrome headlight rims red painted brake drums and I'm sure the list goes on. It needs a complete and proper restoration to justify that price. Just my humble opinion. Curt On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:51 PM, wrote: > Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin > Healey 100-M " they have for sale. > > http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 > > What do you think? > > G/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gardner5 at comcast.net From derek.c.job at gmail.com Wed May 16 01:01:59 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 08:01:59 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> Message-ID: Rule 1 - Never by a classic car from a dealer, unless you enjoy overpaying. I just don't get the prices asked for 100M's and this is a poor example. Derek www.healeysix.net On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Gary, > > Wow, where to start. > > I notice they say nothing about a complete restoration since there probably > wasn't one done . Other than the flashy finned valve cover, missing its > original knurled knobs and oil filler cap, the rest of the engine looks > rather tatty. The interior is an abortion, carpet instead of Armacord, > incorrect door panels, and those seats are tacky. Incorrect chrome > headlight rims red painted brake drums and I'm sure the list goes on. It > needs a complete and proper restoration to justify that price. > > Just my humble opinion. > > Curt > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:51 PM, wrote: > > > Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin > > Healey 100-M " they have for sale. > > > > http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 > > > > What do you think? > > > > G/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From cvaselaar at earthlink.net Tue May 15 19:24:51 2012 From: cvaselaar at earthlink.net (Charlie Vaselaar) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 20:24:51 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Steering Wheel Boss - Fit Message-ID: <32383446.1337131491854.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I recently purchased a steering wheel boss from Moss for mounting my new Moto-Lita steering wheel in my '66 BJ8.. It fits OK except for a noticeable gap (1/8") between the turn signal / horn assembly and the steering wheel trim ring. When secured by the three grub screws, I can see that the signal / horn assembly is fully seated on the machined mounting surface inside the boss. Has anyone else had a similar problem when installing a new steering wheel? What was your solution? Thanks, Charlie Vaselaar 1966 BJ8 Houston, TX From healeyguy at bredband.net Wed May 16 04:03:47 2012 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 12:03:47 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> Message-ID: <4FB37B83.8000903@bredband.net> Is it really a real M? It seems to me the cold air box is missing. Per Editorgary at aol.com skrev 2012-05-16 00:51: > Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin > Healey 100-M " they have for sale. > > http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 > > What do you think? > > G/ From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Wed May 16 05:48:29 2012 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 04:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] brakes In-Reply-To: References: <02B25E17FDBC49AE925748FABA12D46B@Mike> Message-ID: <1337168909.83562.YahooMailRC@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> AH4H North America distributor AutoFarm http://www.autofarm.net ________________________________ From: Austin Healey pajtamuvek at gmail.com AH4H? http://www.ahead4healeys.co.uk/ Gergo 2012/5/15 Mike Sinclair > I'm not up to date on where to buy parts. I did look > at > Moss, but couldn't find it. Any suggestions? Also, plan to buy some nuts > for > the hub attach, if I can find them. > > TIA From derek.c.job at gmail.com Wed May 16 05:48:36 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 12:48:36 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <1385418343.584292.1337151504933.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1385418343.584292.1337151504933.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Joel I don't doubt they have sold for that, particularly, at the overhyped RM auctions. I just don't see how they are worth that when they are just BN2 's with a few bolt on extras. If I had 175K to spend on a car it wouldn't be a 100M Derek On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:58 AM, wrote: > Agree that much is not correct and that's what can be seen in only a > handful of general pics. Makes you question everything else. Definitely > would walk away from this one, or maybe even run. Disagree with the the > comment that a properly restored factory M would be $135K, a decent older > restoration sold at RM for $162K in Jan. 2012, and another private sale of > a nicer factory M just this month is reported at approximately $175K. > Joel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" > To: Editorgary at aol.com > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:41:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale > > Gary, > > Wow, where to start. > > I notice they say nothing about a complete restoration since there probably > wasn't one done . Other than the flashy finned valve cover, missing its > original knurled knobs and oil filler cap, the rest of the engine looks > rather tatty. The interior is an abortion, carpet instead of Armacord, > incorrect door panels, and those seats are tacky. Incorrect chrome > headlight rims red painted brake drums and I'm sure the list goes on. It > needs a complete and proper restoration to justify that price. > > Just my humble opinion. > > Curt > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:51 PM, wrote: > > > Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin > > Healey 100-M " they have for sale. > > > > http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 > > > > What do you think? > > > > G/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gardner5 at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From austin.healey at gmail.com Wed May 16 06:59:40 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 22:59:40 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> Message-ID: <58ABC63F-063F-40D0-9777-C43D8D94A7BA@gmail.com> My take? The "paper" and "documents" that make this an "M" are worth $120k The metal and mechanical stuff is worth $15k. Or maybe it's $110K plus $25k for the metal?? So if it was a BN2 with no "M" stuff - at $15k - $25k, we'd all be good?? Like the Lemans accident 100/S. or most other unrestored 100/Ms, Investors in historic items are focussed on provenance. I.e. is it historically correct and can it proven to be? Of limited supply? Check the price on Steiff teddy bears v any other teddy bear made around the early 1910's or so. It's all about limited production, and proveability. Hence works car prices, 100/S prices, and 100/M prices. It's the piece of paper that is the "value" - not the metal. That's the issue. The value is in the paper proof. Not the actual metal. Get used to it. Enthusiasts look at the metal. Investors look at the paper. Make sense?? I'm an enthusiast. Me. Chris Best Sent from my iPhone On 16/05/2012, at 10:41 AM, "Curt/Nancy Arndt" wrote: > Gary, > > Wow, where to start. > > I notice they say nothing about a complete restoration since there probably > wasn't one done . Other than the flashy finned valve cover, missing its > original knurled knobs and oil filler cap, the rest of the engine looks > rather tatty. The interior is an abortion, carpet instead of Armacord, > incorrect door panels, and those seats are tacky. Incorrect chrome > headlight rims red painted brake drums and I'm sure the list goes on. It > needs a complete and proper restoration to justify that price. > > Just my humble opinion. > > Curt > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:51 PM, wrote: > >> Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin >> Healey 100-M " they have for sale. >> >> http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 >> >> What do you think? From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed May 16 07:11:58 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:11:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <9CDBC5BA-EC72-4E2F-AA4F-92E59C0CE2DA@yahoo.com> References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> <9CDBC5BA-EC72-4E2F-AA4F-92E59C0CE2DA@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901cd3365$7978dd50$6c6a97f0$@net> Anybody find any chassis numbers, etc. for this car? If they want any decent prices they're going to have to show a lot more detail. This thing is being advertised like they know it's shortcomings and are very carefully NOT showing them. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jose Vicente Vargas Sent: May-15-12 9:10 PM To: Editorgary at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale For a 135 k car they should have more pictures available. For what I see the engine bay needs a lt of work, increect colors and the dashboard and the white seats...omg Sent from my iPad On 15/05/2012, at 5:51 p.m., Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin > Healey 100-M " they have for sale. > > http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 > > What do you think? > > G/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed May 16 08:17:43 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 07:17:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <58ABC63F-063F-40D0-9777-C43D8D94A7BA@gmail.com> References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> <58ABC63F-063F-40D0-9777-C43D8D94A7BA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Chris, I see your point and agree on principle, but not on your value assigned. The main reason is that documented "Basket case" 100Ms in the U.S. are currently going for around $50 to $60K. Subtract the price of a similar "Basket case" BN2 and you have the value. In this I am assuming that you then ship this basket of parts off to a handful of qualified Healey specialists and have it restored CORRECTLY for anywhere from $100 to $120K. If you want it to Gold Concours level, expect to pay more. What do I mean by "basket case"? The car is completely dismantled, in boxes of parts, mostly complete but may be missing some important parts. It will need a complete restoration on all components and substantial body work. The amount of body work and missing parts (100M specific parts) may determine the final cost. Cheers, Curt On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > My take? > The "paper" and "documents" that make this an "M" are worth $120k > The metal and mechanical stuff is worth $15k. Or maybe it's $110K plus > $25k for the metal?? > So if it was a BN2 with no "M" stuff - at $15k - $25k, we'd all be good?? > Like the Lemans accident 100/S. or most other unrestored 100/Ms, > Investors in historic items are focussed on provenance. > I.e. is it historically correct and can it proven to be? Of limited supply? > Check the price on Steiff teddy bears v any other teddy bear made around > the early 1910's or so. > It's all about limited production, and proveability. Hence works car > prices, 100/S prices, and 100/M prices. It's the piece of paper that is the > "value" - not the metal. > That's the issue. The value is in the paper proof. Not the actual metal. > Get used to it. > Enthusiasts look at the metal. Investors look at the paper. Make sense?? > I'm an enthusiast. > Me. > Chris > Best > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 16/05/2012, at 10:41 AM, "Curt/Nancy Arndt" wrote: > > > Gary, > > > > Wow, where to start. > > > > I notice they say nothing about a complete restoration since there > probably > > wasn't one done . Other than the flashy finned valve cover, missing its > > original knurled knobs and oil filler cap, the rest of the engine looks > > rather tatty. The interior is an abortion, carpet instead of Armacord, > > incorrect door panels, and those seats are tacky. Incorrect chrome > > headlight rims red painted brake drums and I'm sure the list goes on. It > > needs a complete and proper restoration to justify that price. > > > > Just my humble opinion. > > > > Curt > > > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:51 PM, wrote: > > > >> Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin > >> Healey 100-M " they have for sale. > >> > >> http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 > >> > >> What do you think? From bspidell at comcast.net Wed May 16 08:43:23 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> re: " If I had 175K to spend on a car it wouldn't be a 100M " Also, it's pretty dang silly to spend $35K on a (barely) decent BJ8 when you can get a new, nicely-appointed Honda Accord--with enough left over for a few pairs of Birkenstocks and a couple fanny packs--for that. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- Joel I don't doubt they have sold for that, particularly, at the overhyped RM auctions. I just don't see how they are worth that when they are just BN2 's with a few bolt on extras. If I had 175K to spend on a car it wouldn't be a 100M Derek From gardner5 at comcast.net Wed May 16 08:57:11 2012 From: gardner5 at comcast.net (gardner5 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1712075025.592410.1337180231971.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Sarcasm duly noted. I can just imagine being retired and sitting in a rocking chair out on the porch telling my grand kids about how I used to own a Honda Accord and the driving pleasure, stories, and experiences it provided. What makes these cars valuable is that there is a fixed number and there are no more. The more rare, the more valuable. Hence the value gap between a straight forward BN2 and a factory 100M. These are old cars and they are-what-they-are, which is a whole lot of fun with a potential financial upside. Can't remember the last time I jumped in my Microsoft stock and enjoyed a Sunday afternoon in the sun. Anyways to each his own. Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Derek Job" Cc: Editorgary at aol.com, healeys at autox.team.net, gardner5 at comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:43:23 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale re: "If I had 175K to spend on a car it wouldn't be a 100M" Also, it's pretty dang silly to spend $35K on a (barely) decent BJ8 when you can get a new, nicely-appointed Honda Accord--with enough left over for a few pairs of Birkenstocks and a couple fanny packs--for that. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- Joel I don't doubt they have sold for that, particularly, at the overhyped RM auctions. I just don't see how they are worth that when they are just BN2 's with a few bolt on extras. If I had 175K to spend on a car it wouldn't be a 100M Derek From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed May 16 10:07:29 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <58ABC63F-063F-40D0-9777-C43D8D94A7BA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1337184449.21470.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Doesn't look like this car is marketed to "enthusiasts" but is designed to catch the eye of an "investor" or someone who just wants to add another bauble to their collection. OTOH, it's way cheaper than the $185k Nazi SS officer's uniform he has for sale: http://www.palmbeachclassics.com/luxurydetails.php?id=16 Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 5/16/12, Chris Dimmock wrote: From: Chris Dimmock Subject: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale To: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" Cc: "Editorgary at aol.com" , "healeys at autox.team.net" Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 8:59 AM My take? The "paper" and "documents" that make this an "M" are worth $120k The metal and mechanical stuff is worth $15k. Or maybe it's $110K plus $25k for the metal?? So if it was a BN2 with no "M" stuff - at $15k - $25k, we'd all be good?? Like the Lemans accident 100/S. or most other unrestored 100/Ms, Investors in historic items are focussed on provenance. I.e. is it historically correct and can it proven to be? Of limited supply? Check the price on Steiff teddy bears v any other teddy bear made around the early 1910's or so. It's all about limited production, and proveability. Hence works car prices, 100/S prices, and 100/M prices. It's the piece of paper that is the "value" - not the metal. That's the issue. The value is in the paper proof. Not the actual metal. Get used to it. Enthusiasts look at the metal. Investors look at the paper. Make sense?? I'm an enthusiast. Me. Chris Best Sent from my iPhone On 16/05/2012, at 10:41 AM, "Curt/Nancy Arndt" wrote: > Gary, > > Wow, where to start. > > I notice they say nothing about a complete restoration since there probably > wasn't one done . Other than the flashy finned valve cover, missing its > original knurled knobs and oil filler cap, the rest of the engine looks > rather tatty. The interior is an abortion, carpet instead of Armacord, > incorrect door panels, and those seats are tacky. Incorrect chrome > headlight rims red painted brake drums and I'm sure the list goes on. It > needs a complete and proper restoration to justify that price. > > Just my humble opinion. > > Curt > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:51 PM, wrote: > >> Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin >> Healey 100-M " they have for sale. >> >> http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 >> >> What do you think? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From Editorgary at aol.com Wed May 16 10:14:18 2012 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 12:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale Message-ID: <2d88.7046f8e5.3ce52c5a@aol.com> Re my editorial in the last issue of Austin-Healey Magazine. There is a group of high-end enthusiast/investors who love buying the best stuff so they can show it off to their friends and brag about it. Clearly, Vallon thinks he's got something that will appeal to that crowd. Unfortunately, anyone with that much money usually has a good collection adviser who will look at this one, maybe ask a few Healey specialists for their opinions, and then advise his client strongly not to touch this. My perception of Vallon is that he doesn't always do his homework, but then touts stuff as if it was the real thing. BTW, did anyone notice that this car doesn't even have a cold air box? I'd be willing to bet that most of the real 100M stuff is long since gone from this car, and that the numbers may not even match. Love to get a chance to look underneath one of the cockpit surround rails to see what numbers are actually under there. G. From derek.c.job at gmail.com Wed May 16 10:25:22 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 17:25:22 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <000901cd3365$7978dd50$6c6a97f0$@net> References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> <9CDBC5BA-EC72-4E2F-AA4F-92E59C0CE2DA@yahoo.com> <000901cd3365$7978dd50$6c6a97f0$@net> Message-ID: Whos talking about Honda Accords?. You can get a nice classic Ferrari 330 for that money or a race prepped E-type, or 2 full blown race prepped 3000s. Derek www.healeysix.net On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > Anybody find any chassis numbers, etc. for this car? If they want any > decent prices they're going to have to show a lot more detail. This thing > is > being advertised like they know it's shortcomings and are very carefully > NOT > showing them. > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Jose Vicente Vargas > Sent: May-15-12 9:10 PM > To: Editorgary at aol.com > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale > > For a 135 k car they should have more pictures available. For what I see > the > engine bay needs a lt of work, increect colors and the dashboard and the > white seats...omg > > Sent from my iPad > > On 15/05/2012, at 5:51 p.m., Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > > > Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin > > Healey 100-M " they have for sale. > > > > http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 > > > > What do you think? > > > > G/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > > donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Wed May 16 10:29:17 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 17:29:17 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> <9CDBC5BA-EC72-4E2F-AA4F-92E59C0CE2DA@yahoo.com> <000901cd3365$7978dd50$6c6a97f0$@net> Message-ID: Chris I agree it is the provenance, but Im just asking what is so special about 100Ms. The 100S is a different kettle of fish because it is a completely different car to the 100s and 100M. If its just rarity and provenance then a Tri-Carb BN7 should be worth 175K because its rarer than a 100M. Derek www.healeysix.net On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Derek Job wrote: > Whos talking about Honda Accords?. You can get a nice classic Ferrari 330 > for that money or a race prepped E-type, or 2 full blown race prepped > 3000s. > > Derek > www.healeysix.net > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Rich Chrysler > wrote: > >> Anybody find any chassis numbers, etc. for this car? If they want any >> decent prices they're going to have to show a lot more detail. This thing >> is >> being advertised like they know it's shortcomings and are very carefully >> NOT >> showing them. >> >> Rich >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: >> healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of Jose Vicente Vargas >> Sent: May-15-12 9:10 PM >> To: Editorgary at aol.com >> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale >> >> For a 135 k car they should have more pictures available. For what I see >> the >> engine bay needs a lt of work, increect colors and the dashboard and the >> white seats...omg >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 15/05/2012, at 5:51 p.m., Editorgary at aol.com wrote: >> >> > Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " Austin >> > Healey 100-M " they have for sale. >> > >> > http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 >> > >> > What do you think? >> > >> > G/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual >> > donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com >> $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed May 16 11:35:53 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 10:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale Message-ID: <1337189753.1118.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Doesn't look like this car is marketed to "enthusiasts" but is designed to catch the eye of an "investor" or someone who just wants to add another bauble to their collection. OTOH, it's way cheaper than the $185k Nazi SS officer's uniform he has for sale: http://www.palmbeachclassics.com/luxurydetails.php?id=16 Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 5/16/12, Chris Dimmock wrote: That's the issue. The value is in the paper proof. Not the actual metal. Get used to it. Enthusiasts look at the metal. Investors look at the paper. Make sense?? I'm an enthusiast. Me. Chris Best From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed May 16 12:02:46 2012 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 11:02:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Wed Funny Message-ID: so course language, but allowed on British TV Mrs. Browns dog is very old and unwell. The kids are trying to figure* *out a way to tell her that its time to put the dog down. Click to watch. "http://www.youtube.com/embed/U430rpfjIIQ" -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Wed May 16 12:10:30 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 20:10:30 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: If I had 175K I could get an excellent early and an excellent late 6cylinder Healey. Which are proper cars compared to the 4cylinders with all their shortcomings. Then I have two different cars with different characters but their engines have the right sound. I would never go for a 100M. I own a 100 and a 3000 and know what I am talking about. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bob Spidell Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2012 16:43 An: Derek Job Cc: Editorgary at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale re: " If I had 175K to spend on a car it wouldn't be a 100M " Also, it's pretty dang silly to spend $35K on a (barely) decent BJ8 when you can get a new, nicely-appointed Honda Accord--with enough left over for a few pairs of Birkenstocks and a couple fanny packs--for that. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- Joel I don't doubt they have sold for that, particularly, at the overhyped RM auctions. I just don't see how they are worth that when they are just BN2 's with a few bolt on extras. If I had 175K to spend on a car it wouldn't be a 100M Derek $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/josef.eckert at t-systems.com From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Wed May 16 13:02:10 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 21:02:10 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> <9CDBC5BA-EC72-4E2F-AA4F-92E59C0CE2DA@yahoo.com> <000901cd3365$7978dd50$6c6a97f0$@net> Message-ID: Hi Derek, There is nothing special about 100Ms. Its like Alpina BMWs or AMG Mercedes`s. They are ranged in value a bit higher than the stock ones. But are they better?? I own a 100 BN1. It's the first and last 100 I have bought. I always prefer the ride and sound of a 6cylinder than these tractor 4cylinders ;-). Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Derek Job Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2012 18:29 An: Rich Chrysler Cc: Editorgary at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale Chris I agree it is the provenance, but Im just asking what is so special about 100Ms. The 100S is a different kettle of fish because it is a completely different car to the 100s and 100M. If its just rarity and provenance then a Tri-Carb BN7 should be worth 175K because its rarer than a 100M. Derek www.healeysix.net On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Derek Job wrote: > Whos talking about Honda Accords?. You can get a nice classic Ferrari > 330 for that money or a race prepped E-type, or 2 full blown race > prepped 3000s. > > Derek > www.healeysix.net > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Rich Chrysler > > wrote: > >> Anybody find any chassis numbers, etc. for this car? If they want >> any decent prices they're going to have to show a lot more detail. >> This thing is being advertised like they know it's shortcomings and >> are very carefully NOT showing them. >> >> Rich >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: >> healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of Jose Vicente Vargas >> Sent: May-15-12 9:10 PM >> To: Editorgary at aol.com >> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale >> >> For a 135 k car they should have more pictures available. For what I >> see the engine bay needs a lt of work, increect colors and the >> dashboard and the white seats...omg >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 15/05/2012, at 5:51 p.m., Editorgary at aol.com wrote: >> >> > Got a reference today from "Palm Beach Classics, Inc." for a " >> > Austin Healey 100-M " they have for sale. >> > >> > http://palmbeachclassics.com/autodetails.php?id=151 >> > >> > What do you think? >> > >> > G/ From bspidell at comcast.net Wed May 16 13:04:02 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 19:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <2d88.7046f8e5.3ce52c5a@aol.com> Message-ID: <1182307447.467409.1337195042247.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> re: "BTW, did anyone notice that this car doesn't even have a cold air box?" Don't think that's too uncommon for Ms--the CAB is a PITA and I suspect many got removed/replaced/trashed before the cars became more valuable. Our M--verified by BMIHT, the Registry and the person with the definitive list of M data--didn't have a CAB when we bought it. Funny how CABs are all the rage now, when they've been around for 60 or so years. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- Re my editorial in the last issue of Austin-Healey Magazine. There is a group of high-end enthusiast/investors who love buying the best stuff so they can show it off to their friends and brag about it. Clearly, Vallon thinks he's got something that will appeal to that crowd. Unfortunately, anyone with that much money usually has a good collection adviser who will look at this one, maybe ask a few Healey specialists for their opinions, and then advise his client strongly not to touch this. My perception of Vallon is that he doesn't always do his homework, but then touts stuff as if it was the real thing. BTW, did anyone notice that this car doesn't even have a cold air box? I'd be willing to bet that most of the real 100M stuff is long since gone from this car, and that the numbers may not even match. Love to get a chance to look underneath one of the cockpit surround rails to see what numbers are actually under there. G. From healeyron at yahoo.com Wed May 16 13:07:00 2012 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 12:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: References: <1385418343.584292.1337151504933.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1337195220.68521.YahooMailNeo@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> What would you spend it on? Ron Mitchell BN7 BN6 ________________________________ From: Derek Job To: gardner5 at comcast.net Cc: Editorgary at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale Joel I don't doubt they have sold for that, particularly, at the overhyped RM auctions. I just don't see how they are worth that when they are just BN2 's with a few bolt on extras. If I had 175K to spend on a car it wouldn't be a 100M Derek From fogbro1 at comcast.net Wed May 16 13:09:35 2012 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 19:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 4 Sale Message-ID: <882555513.490685.1337195375635.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> List, With the 100-6 gone, I have some left over parts that I accumulated while it was here. I can deliver to Import Carlisle this weekend if that works for you. I'm open to any reasonable offer and to almost any unreasonable offer. Healey stuff takes up a lot of space! 1. 100-6/3000 crankshaft, magnafluxed (no cracks) and cut .010 2. Set of main and rod bearings for above crank 3. Pair of 3000 side curtains 4. cylinder head, early 100-6 with integral intake manifold, cleaned and magnafluxed: no cracks 5. cylinder head, 3000, small crack professionally repaired, cleaned and machine shop checked 6. bumper, a.k.a. "facebar", OEM rechromed, never mounted, can't recall if it's front of rear. my cost $400. offer? 7. new OEM fuel gauge 8. side shift overdrive transmission with adaptor, but less overdrive. $350 Thanks, Ed Woods From bspidell at comcast.net Wed May 16 13:10:10 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 19:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1340373419.467715.1337195410861.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Derek, You're using logic and reason where they don't apply. The cars are 'worth' what someone is willing to pay for them; same as art, houses, property, guns, antiques, boats, airplanes, etc. Simple as that. Also, maybe the fact the cars were modified at the DMHMC plant adds some cachet. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- Chris I agree it is the provenance, but Im just asking what is so special about 100Ms. The 100S is a different kettle of fish because it is a completely different car to the 100s and 100M. If its just rarity and provenance then a Tri-Carb BN7 should be worth 175K because its rarer than a 100M. Derek www.healeysix.net From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Wed May 16 13:29:15 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 21:29:15 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale Message-ID: Hi Derek, There is nothing special about 100Ms. Its like Alpina BMWs or AMG Mercedes`s. They are ranged in value a bit higher than the stock ones. But are they better?? I own a 100 BN1. It's the first and last 100 I buy. I always prefer the ride and sound of a 6cylinder than these tractor 4cylinders ;-). Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany From happolk at cox.net Wed May 16 14:38:16 2012 From: happolk at cox.net (Harlan Polk) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 13:38:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <58ABC63F-063F-40D0-9777-C43D8D94A7BA@gmail.com> References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> <58ABC63F-063F-40D0-9777-C43D8D94A7BA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <006601cd33a3$d2e8a440$78b9ecc0$@cox.net> This 100M discussion is fascinating reflecting the changing attitudes toward Healeys and 100Ms in particular. I come from the perspective of a long time owner. My father bought my 100M new in 1956. He gave it to me in 1960. I got about 10 traffic tickets in it in 2 years. To me the 100M was a lightly hot-rodded 100, and after the unobtainiable100S the best handling, and best driving, sportiest Healey ever; yes, IMHO, even better than the tri-carb BN7. When I grew up with the 100M it was considered rather ordinary among the top tier girl catching cars a high-school kid could drive. The corvettes were higher status, as were GTO's and Chevelles among the auto shop class crowd. The status winner, at least for me, was the Dentist's son who drove a 300SL. My father's Chevy 409 with a 3-speed stick on the column was rarer and farther away from a standard Chevy than the 100M was from a 100. So to me the 100M was just another car to hot rod. And I did. And yes, I threw away the factory tools and roll because they were poorly made and too heavy to carry in the boot. The idea that a 100M would become a semi-sacred object was inconceivable to me. The smart guys were installing Ford 289's inspired by Caroll Shelby's work with the AC chassis. The dumber ones turned them into drag strip cars. I don't remember any purists then, you either modified or didn't care enough to modify. So I have a quandary. Restore my 100M to factory original, an original I then and now believe can be much improved upon so the market and the Healey community will treat the result with respect. Or 'improve' my 100M to my liking at the risk of the Healey community finding a bugler, a snare drummer, and a parade ground to hold my drummed out of the corp ceremony? Logic and good sense as in $'s says restore it to factory original warts and all. Chris put it best for me, the value is in the paper, not the metal. From derek.c.job at gmail.com Wed May 16 15:08:54 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 22:08:54 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: References: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob It's just my opinion but I think people are paying those prices because they don't know what they are doing. How many real Healey enthusiasts would pay 175K for a 100M. None in my opinion. There is nothing special about the cars, yes there are only 600 or so but as I said , there are only 350 BN7 Tri-Carbs. This market has been hyped up by various American auction houses and dealers. Now if you own a 100M, good for you, I like those cars, but if I had one I'd sell it for 175K. Reminds me a bit of the mining industry. if ever we discovered a gold deposit we would sell it, because people would pay way over the odds for it and we could better invest the funds elsewhere. Derek www.healeysix.net On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:10 PM, wrote: > If I had 175K I could get an excellent early and an excellent late > 6cylinder > Healey. Which are proper cars compared to the 4cylinders with all their > shortcomings. Then I have two different cars with different characters but > their engines have the right sound. I would never go for a 100M. I own a > 100 > and a 3000 and know what I am talking about. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > Im > Auftrag von Bob Spidell > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2012 16:43 > An: Derek Job > Cc: Editorgary at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale > > re: " If I had 175K to spend on a car it wouldn't be a 100M " > > > Also, it's pretty dang silly to spend $35K on a (barely) decent BJ8 when > you > can get a new, nicely-appointed Honda Accord--with enough left over for a > few > pairs of Birkenstocks and a couple fanny packs--for that. > > > Bob > > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Joel > > I don't doubt they have sold for that, particularly, at the overhyped RM > auctions. I just don't see how they are worth that when they are just BN2 > 's > with a few bolt on extras. > > > If I had 175K to spend on a car it wouldn't be a 100M > > Derek > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/josef.eckert at t-systems.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Wed May 16 15:28:02 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:28:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Men see everything Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120516142542.020989e8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Funny video, caution rated R because of nudity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVHLrX9bxbU From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Wed May 16 15:38:06 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:38:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] rare Aston Martin - warning no Healey content Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120516143305.0202e278@pop.att.yahoo.com> Saw an Aston Martin DB2r at the body shop today. The only one surviving of two made. This car is similar but the one at the shop was a factory race car with two leather hood straps and dual fuel filler caps leading to a large tank in the back. It even had a third brake light! Beautiful car! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXlwc5V6xkU John From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 16 15:55:22 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 16:55:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Different from 100M but kewl......... In-Reply-To: <4FB25957.70001@justbrits.com> References: <4FB25957.70001@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4FB4224A.7060204@justbrits.com> and shame "this" Dealer has it ! ! -------- Original Message -------- http://www.hymanltd.com/search/details.asp?stockno=4130&suffix=28&recordcount=32 Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From eyera3000 at gmail.com Wed May 16 18:00:15 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 17:00:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <006601cd33a3$d2e8a440$78b9ecc0$@cox.net> References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> <58ABC63F-063F-40D0-9777-C43D8D94A7BA@gmail.com> <006601cd33a3$d2e8a440$78b9ecc0$@cox.net> Message-ID: Build it anyway you want. It's your car. If you want to turn it into an investment, restore it, if you want to build it so you can enjoy it your way, go for it. I bought my car in the mid 70s for $500.00. I've made some improvements that upset some (smitty 5 speed, HD8 carbs) It's their issue, not mine. Donald Healey was just happy to see his cars on the road. Ira Erbs 1960 BT7 On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Harlan Polk wrote: > This 100M discussion is fascinating reflecting the changing attitudes > toward > Healeys and 100Ms in particular. I come from the perspective of a long time > owner. My father bought my 100M new in 1956. He gave it to me in 1960. I > got > about 10 traffic tickets in it in 2 years. To me the 100M was a lightly > hot-rodded 100, and after the unobtainiable100S the best handling, and best > driving, sportiest Healey ever; yes, IMHO, even better than the tri-carb > BN7. When I grew up with the 100M it was considered rather ordinary among > the top tier girl catching cars a high-school kid could drive. The > corvettes > were higher status, as were GTO's and Chevelles among the auto shop class > crowd. The status winner, at least for me, was the Dentist's son who drove > a > 300SL. My father's Chevy 409 with a 3-speed stick on the column was rarer > and farther away from a standard Chevy than the 100M was from a 100. So to > me the 100M was just another car to hot rod. And I did. And yes, I threw > away the factory tools and roll because they were poorly made and too heavy > to carry in the boot. The idea that a 100M would become a semi-sacred > object > was inconceivable to me. The smart guys were installing Ford 289's inspired > by Caroll Shelby's work with the AC chassis. The dumber ones turned them > into drag strip cars. I don't remember any purists then, you either > modified > or didn't care enough to modify. > > So I have a quandary. Restore my 100M to factory original, an original I > then and now believe can be much improved upon so the market and the Healey > community will treat the result with respect. Or 'improve' my 100M to my > liking at the risk of the Healey community finding a bugler, a snare > drummer, and a parade ground to hold my drummed out of the corp ceremony? > Logic and good sense as in $'s says restore it to factory original warts > and > all. Chris put it best for me, the value is in the paper, not the metal. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed May 16 18:20:00 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 20:20:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <1182307447.467409.1337195042247.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <2d88.7046f8e5.3ce52c5a@aol.com> <1182307447.467409.1337195042247.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <000501cd33c2$cc8b84e0$65a28ea0$@net> I would suggest that a lot of M's and Le Mans kit Hundreds often had the cold air box removed and air filters fitted if the owner planned to use the car for the purpose of driving and enjoying the car (imagine that). The idea of running unfiltered air right into the engine via air trunking and the cold air box over long term use is something I wouldn't want to do. Rich re: "BTW, did anyone notice that this car doesn't even have a cold air box?" Don't think that's too uncommon for Ms--the CAB is a PITA and I suspect many got removed/replaced/trashed before the cars became more valuable. Our M--verified by BMIHT, the Registry and the person with the definitive list of M data--didn't have a CAB when we bought it. Funny how CABs are all the rage now, when they've been around for 60 or so years. From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed May 16 19:13:21 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 09:13:21 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] rare Aston Martin - warning no Healey content In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120516143305.0202e278@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120516143305.0202e278@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This video is of a very early DB2 before they introduced the hatchback. Actually the DB2/4 was the very first production car in the world with a hatchback. The hatchback was put there so that the owner had easy access to put his shotguns before motoring from London to his country estate to do some trap-pheasant hunting. I actually always preferred the 2, 2/4 and Mk III to the later DB 4/5/6 because the DB2 chassis was a smaller car.... maybe not as good for handling but more in line with the original idea to put a very big engine in a small car. Kind of what the original Scaglietti was about. Of course the modern Scaglietti is anything but small. Can anyone tell me (without looking it up on the internet) who designed the AM engine? Alan On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 5:38 AM, john spaur wrote: > Saw an Aston Martin DB2r at the body shop today. The only one surviving of > two made. This car is similar but the one at the shop was a factory race car > with two leather hood straps and dual fuel filler caps leading to a large > tank in the back. It even had a third brake light! Beautiful car! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXlwc5V6xkU > > John From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed May 16 19:49:43 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 09:49:43 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Different from 100M but kewl......... In-Reply-To: <4FB4224A.7060204@justbrits.com> References: <4FB25957.70001@justbrits.com> <4FB4224A.7060204@justbrits.com> Message-ID: that's pretty awesome!! On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 5:55 AM, " Just Brits " Shop wrote: > and shame "this" Dealer has it ! ! > > -------- Original Message -------- > > http://www.hymanltd.com/search/details.asp?stockno=4130&suffix=28&recordcount=32 > > Ed From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed May 16 21:27:33 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 20:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] rare Aston Martin - warning no Healey content In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120516143305.0202e278@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1337225253.80109.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I actually have an Aston-Martin DB2 story. In 1969 I checked out a DB2 for sale in Brookline, MA for $1,800. The original motor was gone and had been replaced with a Corvette 327. (I've always been a little nuts for LBCs with V8s). I told the seller I'd take it, but he had given first refusal to a bud of his. Supposedly had some rallying history and had a huge factory altimeter in the dash. The seller's friend took the car and I didn't get it. Always wondered where it went. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 5/16/12, john spaur wrote: From: john spaur Subject: [Healeys] rare Aston Martin - warning no Healey content To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 5:38 PM Saw an Aston Martin DB2r at the body shop today. The only one surviving of two made. This car is similar but the one at the shop was a factory race car with two leather hood straps and dual fuel filler caps leading to a large tank in the back. It even had a third brake light! Beautiful car! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXlwc5V6xkU John Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 16 23:02:42 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 00:02:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Different from 100M but kewl......... In-Reply-To: References: <4FB25957.70001@justbrits.com> <4FB4224A.7060204@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4FB48672.6000305@justbrits.com> << ....that's pretty awesome!!>> AGREED, Alan ! ! Neat also in that she IS a George Barris ride ! ! ! Wish I had a few bucks ! ! On Dave at nite a few minutes ago, Betty White [GOTTA LOVE her] Dave showed of Betty [what is now called 'roasting'] on the dais seated next to the podium. Guess who the M.C. was ?!?!? Me From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 17 01:57:15 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 02:57:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Men see everything In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120516142542.020989e8@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120516142542.020989e8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FB4AF5B.3050104@justbrits.com> "PG", John ! ! ! "Might" even be just "G" ! ? ! Anon ================================================================ On 5/16/2012 4:28 PM, john spaur wrote: > Funny video, caution rated R because of nudity. From pieters at pt.lu Thu May 17 07:06:40 2012 From: pieters at pt.lu (Pieter and Linda) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:06:40 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] scoops not vents Message-ID: <31594F89-FCF6-41C6-AE5C-6BF380F02F85@pt.lu> I went along to a classic car rally here in Luxembourg today and saw a BJ8 that had forward facing scoops on the side of the front guards in place of rally vents. Spoke to the owner who carefully explained that BMC had got it wrong at the time and all Healey racers since had "stupidly" followed suit. His theory was the the scoops and front grill combine to create an area of high pressure in the engine bay that "force feeds" the engine " just like a supercharger". I think maybe has has sniffed a few to many exhaust fumes. Nice day out though with some interesting cars including a very original and obviously much used Bugatti racer, cheers From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu May 17 10:05:02 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 09:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] scoops not vents In-Reply-To: <31594F89-FCF6-41C6-AE5C-6BF380F02F85@pt.lu> Message-ID: <1337270702.24111.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> One Healey scoop idea that I always liked was done when one of the regular auto-xers in our sports car club had an accident that damaged the left front fender and shroud of his Healey. When repairs were done, sheet metal was placed over the valley between the fender and the hood. The area near the carbs in the shroud was cut out, thereby creating a ram effect to the carbs. The mod was very professionally done and looked very good. Don't know how much it helped performance, but that Healey always did quite well in the auto-x. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 5/17/12, Pieter and Linda wrote: From: Pieter and Linda Subject: [Healeys] scoops not vents To: "healeys List" Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012, 9:06 AM I went along to a classic car rally here in Luxembourg today and saw a BJ8 that had forward facing scoops on the side of the front guards in place of rally vents. Spoke to the owner who carefully explained that BMC had got it wrong at the time and all Healey racers since had "stupidly" followed suit. His theory was the the scoops and front grill combine to create an area of high pressure in the engine bay that "force feeds" the engine " just like a supercharger". I think maybe has has sniffed a few to many exhaust fumes. Nice day out though with some interesting cars including a very original and obviously much used Bugatti racer, cheers Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 17 13:19:55 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 14:19:55 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] scoops not vents In-Reply-To: <31594F89-FCF6-41C6-AE5C-6BF380F02F85@pt.lu> References: <31594F89-FCF6-41C6-AE5C-6BF380F02F85@pt.lu> Message-ID: <4FB54F5B.2010703@justbrits.com> << On 5/17/2012 8:06 AM, Pieter and Linda wrote: > I think maybe has has sniffed a few to many exhaust fumes. >> Nah, Pieter ! ! But I would REALLY like some of what he's on ! ! ! HealeyRick From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Thu May 17 15:09:22 2012 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 21:09:22 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Les Leston - Message-ID: Listers: Alfred Lazarus Fingleston better known as Les Leston, passed away Sunday May 13th at the age of 91. He drove Grand Prix cars in the early 1950's and was the co-driver for the Austin-Healey 100S (NOJ 393) entry at the 1955 LeMans but did not get the opportunity to drive due to the accident. He later made his name by selling steering wheels bearing his name, racing gloves, helmets and fire-retardant racing suits. Jean Caron From kentmclean at comcast.net Thu May 17 18:40:16 2012 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 20:40:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] rare Aston Martin - warning no Healey content In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FB59A70.1090500@comcast.net> Alan Seigrist wrote: > Actually the DB2/4 was the very first production car in > the world with a hatchback. I'll see your DB2/4 and raise you a Kaiser Traveler (or Vagabond) as the first production hatchback. "Thus, it was innovative Kaiser that gets full credit for an automotive first with its Traveler and Vagabond hatchback sedans." -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From mark at bradakis.com Thu May 17 18:52:55 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 18:52:55 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Les Leston - In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FB59D67.5050109@bradakis.com> I seem to recall sometime in the past having a pair of SU velocity stacks bearing his name. And I must confess. When I first glanced at the message I though it was about Les Nessman, the news guy in the WKRP sitcom. mjb. From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu May 17 22:38:32 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 21:38:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] rare Aston Martin - warning no Healey content In-Reply-To: <4FB59A70.1090500@comcast.net> References: <4FB59A70.1090500@comcast.net> Message-ID: I prefer the Darrin http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/kaiser/darrin/1126463.html On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Kent McLean wrote: > Alan Seigrist wrote: > >> Actually the DB2/4 was the very first production car in >> the world with a hatchback. >> > > I'll see your DB2/4 and raise you a Kaiser Traveler (or Vagabond) as > the first production hatchback. > > > > > > "Thus, it was innovative Kaiser that gets full credit for an automotive > first with its Traveler and Vagabond hatchback sedans." > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/eyera3000@**gmail.com > > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Thu May 17 23:13:34 2012 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 07:13:34 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Les Leston - In-Reply-To: <4FB59D67.5050109@bradakis.com> References: <4FB59D67.5050109@bradakis.com> Message-ID: May He rest in peace! I have a very heavy Les Leston badge on my garage-wall. G 2012/5/18 Mark J Bradakis > I seem to recall sometime in the past having a pair of SU velocity > stacks bearing his name. > > And I must confess. When I first glanced at the message I though it > was about Les Nessman, the news guy in the WKRP sitcom. > > mjb. > > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/pajtamuvek@**gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Fri May 18 08:20:07 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 07:20:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: References: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4FB65A97.7080706@comcast.net> I think my point--at least part of it--got missed (maybe buried in too much sarcasm). If you think someone paying close to $200K for a factory 100M is absurd, keep in mind that to many people--probably a large majority--spending any money (or time) at all on an old British 2 (or 2.5)-seater is absurd; cars are 4-wheeled appliances for getting groceries and taking the kids to soccer/football practice. There are plenty of people who think you would be just plain silly to spend a penny on a 6-cyl Healey, so it's all relative. I do agree that 100Ms may be in a bit of speculative bubble, though (it's been going on for several years, so may have some staying power). More justified, IMO, in the bubble in old muscle cars, which have no appeal to me. Bob On 5/16/2012 2:08 PM, Derek Job wrote: > Bob > > It's just my opinion but I think people are paying those prices because > they don't know what they are doing. How many real Healey enthusiasts would > pay 175K for a 100M. None in my opinion. There is nothing special about the > cars, yes there are only 600 or so but as I said , there are only 350 BN7 > Tri-Carbs. This market has been hyped up by various American auction houses > and dealers. Now if you own a 100M, good for you, I like those cars, but if > I had one I'd sell it for 175K. Reminds me a bit of the mining industry. if > ever we discovered a gold deposit we would sell it, because people would > pay way over the odds for it and we could better invest the funds elsewhere. > > Derek > www.healeysix.net > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From derek.c.job at gmail.com Fri May 18 09:45:32 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:45:32 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <4FB65A97.7080706@comcast.net> References: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4FB65A97.7080706@comcast.net> Message-ID: Point taken Bob. I should clarify my position as well. I hope I didn't appear to be down on 100Ms because I'm not, I absolutely love the cars. I just think, and it is just my opinion, that the premium for factory Ms is much too high because, unlike the S, they have relatively few modifications over a standard 100 plus the M package had been sold as a dealer option for 2 or 3 years before the factory M arrived. However if people are willing to pay these prices then that's great for the 100M owners. cheers Derek On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > I think my point--at least part of it--got missed (maybe buried in too > much sarcasm). > > If you think someone paying close to $200K for a factory 100M is absurd, > keep in mind that to many people--probably a large majority--spending any > money (or time) at all on an old British 2 (or 2.5)-seater is absurd; cars > are 4-wheeled appliances for getting groceries and taking the kids to > soccer/football practice. There are plenty of people who think you would > be just plain silly to spend a penny on a 6-cyl Healey, so it's all > relative. > > I do agree that 100Ms may be in a bit of speculative bubble, though (it's > been going on for several years, so may have some staying power). More > justified, IMO, in the bubble in old muscle cars, which have no appeal to > me. > > Bob > > > > On 5/16/2012 2:08 PM, Derek Job wrote: > >> Bob >> >> It's just my opinion but I think people are paying those prices because >> they don't know what they are doing. How many real Healey enthusiasts >> would >> pay 175K for a 100M. None in my opinion. There is nothing special about >> the >> cars, yes there are only 600 or so but as I said , there are only 350 BN7 >> Tri-Carbs. This market has been hyped up by various American auction >> houses >> and dealers. Now if you own a 100M, good for you, I like those cars, but >> if >> I had one I'd sell it for 175K. Reminds me a bit of the mining industry. >> if >> ever we discovered a gold deposit we would sell it, because people would >> pay way over the odds for it and we could better invest the funds >> elsewhere. >> >> Derek >> www.healeysix.net >> >> >> >> > > -- > *********************************************************************** > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > *********************************************************************** From roadwarriordave at hotmail.com Fri May 18 10:20:23 2012 From: roadwarriordave at hotmail.com (Dave Murphy) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 12:20:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Steering Wheel Boss - Fit In-Reply-To: <32383446.1337131491854.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <32383446.1337131491854.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Hi Charlie, I too just purchased a new hub adapter for an adjustable wheel (and Moto-Lita 14" wood wheel) from Moss. Parts arrived Monday. I have not yet tried to install these in my 1966 BJ8 which currently has the standard 16.5" plastic wheel. I probably won't get to them until next week at the earliest and probably not until after Conclave. I was surprized to see the 2 main adapter components were in a black anodized finish (- the last ones I saw were brightly plated!) and stamped "made in China". Were yours the same as mine? Please copy me on anything you find out about your problem and I will keep you posted as well on my progress. Will I see you at Conclave? Dave Murphy Dearborn MI > Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 20:24:51 -0500 > From: cvaselaar at earthlink.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Steering Wheel Boss - Fit > > I recently purchased a steering wheel boss from Moss for mounting my new Moto-Lita steering wheel in my '66 BJ8.. > > It fits OK except for a noticeable gap (1/8") between the turn signal / horn assembly and the steering wheel trim ring. When secured by the three grub screws, I can see that the signal / horn assembly is fully seated on the machined mounting surface inside the boss. > > Has anyone else had a similar problem when installing a new steering wheel? What was your solution? > > Thanks, > > Charlie Vaselaar > 1966 BJ8 > Houston, TX> Healeys at autox.team.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri May 18 21:10:24 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 20:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Healeys at Sebring - 1963 Message-ID: <1337397024.82840.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> If you like period race photos, this is a must see: http://tinyurl.com/7td7sbn The '63 Sebring 12 hr is documented with more than 1200 photos. Here's one of the 54 FAC: http://tinyurl.com/7x8ttdx Enjoy. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri May 18 21:15:29 2012 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 22:15:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <4FB65A97.7080706@comcast.net> References: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4FB65A97.7080706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C0DEE461258401195073D42C8DBEFE2@GregPC> " I do agree that 100Ms may be in a bit of speculative bubble, though (it's been going on for several years, so may have some staying power). More justified, IMO, in the bubble in old muscle cars, which have no appeal to me. Bob" The really crazy bubble is the bubble in "bubble" or microcars, like the Isettas and Mescheschmitts and such, which bring 20 or 30K or more at auction restored these days. Greg From mark at bradakis.com Fri May 18 21:26:06 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:26:06 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Team.Net forums Message-ID: <4FB712CE.7040900@bradakis.com> Spent some time working on the forums. Basic functionality is back. You can look at them, log in and post. Not yet sure if new registrations work, I'll test that soon. The incentive for getting this done was pretty selfish. I wanted to tell folks about an incident yesterday at work: http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=129 One minor nit is that for some reason this post doesn't show up when you click on 'View active topics' but it does show up when you click on 'View new posts' Oh well, I'm sure other problems will crop up as folks make use of it. mjb. From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Fri May 18 22:28:47 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:28:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] tensioner oil supply Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120518212405.020313e0@pop.att.yahoo.com> The new Rolon (Country brand) tensioner has a tiny oil supply hole that I presume provides hydraulic oil pressure to the spring loaded part that presses against the timing chain. The oil supply hole is much smaller than the original part. Does the tensioner work on hydraulic and spring pressure? Should the oil supply hole be enlarged to match the original? Thank you, John Spaur BT7 From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Fri May 18 23:01:17 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 22:01:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] oil thrower Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120518215920.02026b88@pop.att.yahoo.com> The workshop manual says to put the oil thrower on the crankshaft with the "concave side towards the front of the engine". Should the concave side face the front plate or should it face the timing cover? Dumb me. John BT7 From derek.c.job at gmail.com Sat May 19 01:04:18 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 08:04:18 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys at Sebring - 1963 In-Reply-To: <1337397024.82840.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1337397024.82840.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Fantastic photos Rick. Haven't seen all 1200 yet! Great pics of the FAC cars plus a brilliant one of Graham Hill driving a Ferrari. Derek www.healeysix.net On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:10 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > If you like period race photos, this is a must > see: http://tinyurl.com/7td7sbn The '63 Sebring 12 > hr is > documented with more than 1200 photos. Here's one of the 54 > FAC: http://tinyurl.com/7x8ttdx Enjoy. > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Sat May 19 01:09:47 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 08:09:47 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Steering Wheel Boss - Fit In-Reply-To: References: <32383446.1337131491854.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Moto Lita make them in black, like yours and in brushed aluminium. It's the buyers choice but maybe Moss don't specify that. Derek www.healeysix.net On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Dave Murphy wrote: > Hi Charlie, > I too just purchased a new hub adapter for an adjustable wheel (and > Moto-Lita > 14" wood wheel) from Moss. Parts arrived Monday. > > I have not yet tried to install these in my 1966 BJ8 which currently has > the > standard 16.5" plastic wheel. > I probably won't get to them until next week at the earliest and probably > not > until after Conclave. > > I was surprized to see the 2 main adapter components were in a black > anodized > finish (- the last ones I saw were brightly plated!) and stamped "made in > China". Were yours the same as mine? > > Please copy me on anything you find out about your problem and I will keep > you > posted as well on my progress. > Will I see you at Conclave? > > Dave Murphy > Dearborn MI > > > > Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 20:24:51 -0500 > > From: cvaselaar at earthlink.net > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Steering Wheel Boss - Fit > > > > I recently purchased a steering wheel boss from Moss for mounting my new > Moto-Lita steering wheel in my '66 BJ8.. > > > > It fits OK except for a noticeable gap (1/8") between the turn signal / > horn > assembly and the steering wheel trim ring. When secured by the three grub > screws, I can see that the signal / horn assembly is fully seated on the > machined mounting surface inside the boss. > > > > Has anyone else had a similar problem when installing a new steering > wheel? > What was your solution? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Charlie Vaselaar > > 1966 BJ8 > > Houston, TX> Healeys at autox.team.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sat May 19 01:27:24 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 17:27:24 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys at Sebring - 1963 In-Reply-To: References: <1337397024.82840.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: G'day Yes great photos by Dave Friedman. Also the first photo in the third batch is one never often seen. It's the DHMC reserve car 57 FAC in practice. The cars used in the race were 54 FAC and 56 FAC with 57 FAC in reserve. After the race 54 FAC and 56 FAC were taken back to the UK and 57 FAC was sold to Austin Canada for US$1,000. This car is now in Australia. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Derek Job Sent: Saturday, 19 May 2012 5:04 PM To: HealeyRick Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys at Sebring - 1963 Fantastic photos Rick. Haven't seen all 1200 yet! Great pics of the FAC cars plus a brilliant one of Graham Hill driving a Ferrari. Derek www.healeysix.net On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:10 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > If you like period race photos, this is a must > see: http://tinyurl.com/7td7sbn The '63 Sebring 12 > hr is > documented with more than 1200 photos. Here's one of the 54 > FAC: http://tinyurl.com/7x8ttdx Enjoy. > > Rick From sebring at hotkey.net.au Sat May 19 06:26:10 2012 From: sebring at hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 22:26:10 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] scoops not vents In-Reply-To: <31594F89-FCF6-41C6-AE5C-6BF380F02F85@pt.lu> References: <31594F89-FCF6-41C6-AE5C-6BF380F02F85@pt.lu> Message-ID: <4FB79162.5090202@hotkey.net.au> Pieter and Linda wrote: >I went along to a classic car rally here in Luxembourg today and saw a BJ8 >that had forward facing scoops on the side of the front guards in place of >rally vents. Spoke to the owner who carefully explained that BMC had got it >wrong at the time and all Healey racers since had "stupidly" followed suit. >His theory was the the scoops and front grill combine to create an area of >high pressure in the engine bay that "force feeds" the engine " just like a >supercharger". I think maybe has has sniffed a few to many exhaust fumes. Nice >day out though with some interesting cars including a very original and >obviously much used Bugatti racer, >cheers > A different perspective on vents vs. scoops. Remember Geoff Healey was a very successful builder of record breakers and long distance race cars ie. not rally cars. He achieved this by paying attention to the basics and small details. None of his Healeys could be considered full of exotic parts. Now scoop vs. vent. Anybody familiar with air flow will agree that the easiest way to achieve this without fans is to have air in a high pressure area ( for example in front of a speeding radiator) flow to a low pressure area. ( say behind a radiator) This low pressure area will not exist if you have a bloody great scoop trying to force air into an engine bay that has only a small escape route such as under a speeding , low ground clearance Healey. Also air which has been heated takes up a greater volume than cool or ambient air. Therefore Healeys have vents behind the inner wheel arch to provide a low power required, 'free' air discharge point to prevent pressure build up behind the radiator where low pressure is required to facilitate good air flow through the radiator. Also less engine bay air pressure helps minimise that tricky hot stuff forcing ots way through all the holes and crevices into the cockpit. Sucking is cheaper than blowing My Healey with these vents has never overheated. I think Healeys have got it right. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sat May 19 07:50:11 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 06:50:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <4C0DEE461258401195073D42C8DBEFE2@GregPC> References: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4FB65A97.7080706@comcast.net> <4C0DEE461258401195073D42C8DBEFE2@GregPC> Message-ID: Greg & Bob, I couldn't *disagree* more. I've already presented the facts that for the past 35+ years the Factory 100Ms have sold for 1/3 to 1/4 of what 100S have sold for, and it still continues. So how is a consistent 35 year price run a "Speculative bubble"? You can't ignore the facts. Here's what I've presented... *"In the past a similar 100S has sold for 3 to 4 times the price of a Factory 100M. Given that 100Ss are going for $600 to $700K (the Le Mans car being the exception) then 100Ms SHOULD be worth $150 to $230K.*" *"As I stated previously, Factory Ms have always been 25 to 30% of 100Ss. When 100Ss were $10K an M was $2,500, then when 100S's were $100K M's were $25K, and now that 100S's are $600 to $700K... well you do the math. It's always been what people will pay.*" Cheers, Curt On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > " I do agree that 100Ms may be in a bit of speculative bubble, though > (it's been going on for several years, so may have some staying power). > More justified, IMO, in the bubble in old muscle cars, which have no > appeal to me. > > Bob" > > The really crazy bubble is the bubble in "bubble" or microcars, like the > Isettas and Mescheschmitts and such, which bring 20 or 30K or more at > auction restored these days. > > Greg > > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/cnaarndt@**gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Sat May 19 07:54:52 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 06:54:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: References: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4FB65A97.7080706@comcast.net> <4C0DEE461258401195073D42C8DBEFE2@GregPC> Message-ID: <4FB7A62C.40009@comcast.net> I (gladly) stand corrected. May the 100Ses continue to rise in value. Bob On 5/19/2012 6:50 AM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Greg & Bob, > > I couldn't _disagree_ more. I've already presented the facts that for the past 35+ years the Factory 100Ms have sold > for 1/3 to 1/4 of what 100S have sold for, and it still continues. So how is a consistent 35 year price run a > "Speculative bubble"? You can't ignore the facts. > > Here's what I've presented... > > /"In the past a similar 100S has sold for 3 to 4 times the price of a Factory 100M. Given that 100Ss are going for > $600 to $700K (the Le Mans car being the exception) then 100Ms SHOULD be worth $150 to $230K./" > > /"As I stated previously, Factory Ms have always been 25 to 30% of 100Ss. When 100Ss were $10K an M was $2,500, then > when 100S's were $100K M's were $25K, and now that 100S's are $600 to $700K... well you do the math. It's always been > what people will pay./" > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Greg Lemon > wrote: > > " I do agree that 100Ms may be in a bit of speculative bubble, though (it's been going on for several years, so > may have some staying power). More justified, IMO, in the bubble in old muscle cars, which have no appeal to me. > > Bob" > > The really crazy bubble is the bubble in "bubble" or microcars, like the Isettas and Mescheschmitts and such, > which bring 20 or 30K or more at auction restored these days. > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From derek.c.job at gmail.com Sat May 19 08:11:09 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 15:11:09 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <4FB7A62C.40009@comcast.net> References: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4FB65A97.7080706@comcast.net> <4C0DEE461258401195073D42C8DBEFE2@GregPC> <4FB7A62C.40009@comcast.net> Message-ID: Curt That's one way of looking at the statistics, however I would suggest if you look at it from the percentage premium of a 100M over a 100 there has been a massive rise to the situation where it seems a 100M is almost 3 times the price of a normal 100. Not that long ago the premium was maybe 20% or 30%. To me the 100M comparison should always be to a normal 100 not a 100S which as we know is a totally different car. Derek www.healeysix On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > I (gladly) stand corrected. May the 100Ses continue to rise in value. > > > Bob > > > > > On 5/19/2012 6:50 AM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > >> Greg & Bob, >> >> I couldn't _disagree_ more. I've already presented the facts that for >> the past 35+ years the Factory 100Ms have sold for 1/3 to 1/4 of what 100S >> have sold for, and it still continues. So how is a consistent 35 year >> price run a "Speculative bubble"? You can't ignore the facts. >> >> >> Here's what I've presented... >> >> /"In the past a similar 100S has sold for 3 to 4 times the price of a >> Factory 100M. Given that 100Ss are going for $600 to $700K (the Le Mans >> car being the exception) then 100Ms SHOULD be worth $150 to $230K./" >> >> /"As I stated previously, Factory Ms have always been 25 to 30% of 100Ss. >> When 100Ss were $10K an M was $2,500, then when 100S's were $100K M's were >> $25K, and now that 100S's are $600 to $700K... well you do the math. It's >> always been what people will pay./" >> >> Cheers, >> >> Curt >> >> >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Greg Lemon > glemon at neb.rr.com>> wrote: >> >> " I do agree that 100Ms may be in a bit of speculative bubble, though >> (it's been going on for several years, so >> may have some staying power). More justified, IMO, in the bubble in >> old muscle cars, which have no appeal to me. >> >> Bob" >> >> The really crazy bubble is the bubble in "bubble" or microcars, like >> the Isettas and Mescheschmitts and such, >> which bring 20 or 30K or more at auction restored these days. >> >> Greg >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/healeys/cnaarndt@**gmail.com >> >> >> > > -- > *********************************************************************** > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > *********************************************************************** From derek.c.job at gmail.com Sat May 19 11:56:41 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 18:56:41 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Historic Sports Car Racing, Silverstone - Photos including Healeys Message-ID: Hi All I was at Silverstone today for the HSCC meeting. Lots of interesting cars and 5 Healeys including Rinus Simke's well known, yellow Big Healey driven (very fast) by his son Jaap. Plenty of American iron including ex racing cars of Dan Gurney, Al Unser and Peter Gethin. When I was taking photos of Rinus' Healey on the pit wall I found myself standing next to a very understated Christian Horner, Chief of the Red Bull F1 Team. He was sharingthe driving of an E-Type with F1 designer Adrian Newey. Not a Red Bull logo in sight. You can see the photos here http://s1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj530/derekcjob/HSCC/ Derek www.healeysix.com From davzu29 at cox.net Sat May 19 12:16:01 2012 From: davzu29 at cox.net (David Z) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 14:16:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 for sale Message-ID: <60BBFDE0FD5A4EE4862B3A2E0FAA2C22@ORGANIZA79207D> Just a quick note to let the listers know I'm interested in selling my BJ8. It's an excellent driver, needs nothing, and has quite a few improvements. It's advertised in the June Healey Marque, but for those who may not get it, I can send details if interested. Please reply to davidzbj8 at cox.net Regards, David Z. From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sat May 19 15:47:38 2012 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 17:47:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <4C0DEE461258401195073D42C8DBEFE2@GregPC> References: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4FB65A97.7080706@comcast.net> <4C0DEE461258401195073D42C8DBEFE2@GregPC> Message-ID: Though we all seem to agree that there is a differential value between an M and a standard 100 (or for that matter a Lemans) I did not see any opinions regarding how much that might be. I'd be interested in hearing thoughts regarding what premium attaches to an M. Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > " I do agree that 100Ms may be in a bit of speculative bubble, though > (it's been going on for several years, so may have some staying power). > More justified, IMO, in the bubble in old muscle cars, which have no > appeal to me. > > Bob" > > The really crazy bubble is the bubble in "bubble" or microcars, like the > Isettas and Mescheschmitts and such, which bring 20 or 30K or more at > auction restored these days. > > Greg > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/michael.oritt@**gmail.com From Healey100M at gmail.com Sat May 19 21:11:42 2012 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 23:11:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> <9CDBC5BA-EC72-4E2F-AA4F-92E59C0CE2DA@yahoo.com> <000901cd3365$7978dd50$6c6a97f0$@net> Message-ID: Ok. I guess I have to jump in on this. "Are they better?" Yes, they are better. Roughly 25% more horsepower, heavier sway bar resulting in better handling. the 4 speed is much more pleasant to drive than the BN1, and the louvered hood w/strap make them a standout in any crowd. Sure there may have been some marketing ploy by Donald Healey with the 100 M but regardless, it produced a faster, better driving car. Give him credit. May be why so many re-productions are built today! Now, take into account production numbers. 640 BN2 !00 M's built, maybe 175-185 still exist today. BN1 & BN2 production was roughly 14,000, and maybe 3500+ (Rich ?) are still known to exist. Supply & Demand. When these fewer items perform better & look better, they are going to bring significantly more money. Add to that the prominence of being built at the Healey Racing Factory! :-) To those of you have said that the 100 M should, or has, held a premium of 20% -30% over a standard car, I'd ask, if you actually owned a 100M & wanted to sell, would you price it within that range 20-30% range or what the market is now paying for 100 M's? So, If in the 20-30% range, I have cash!!!! BTW, I have the 2 - 100 M's because they are the most fun to drive around the back country roads where iI live. The BJ8 is for cross country tours. Different cars for different purposes. (Not sure why I have the BN7 tri-carb!) :-) Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M White/Black '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW '55 BN1 (Sold) '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On May 16, 2012, at 3:02 PM, wrote: > Hi Derek, > There is nothing special about 100Ms. Its like Alpina BMWs or AMG Mercedes`s. > They are ranged in value a bit higher than the stock ones. But are they > better?? From sebring at hotkey.net.au Sat May 19 22:59:50 2012 From: sebring at hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 14:59:50 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] More Venting Message-ID: <4FB87A46.8040802@hotkey.net.au> When Geoff Healey developed the 1965 - 68 streamlined Sprites they were windtunnel tested for the assessment of drag etc. This resulted in the windscreens being slightly modified at the top corners, the screen was laid back slightly and the high point of the roof line was moved foward to reduce drag. As a result of all this technical and calibrated research the Sprites quite effective. In 1968 at LeMans the Sprite had approx 115 bhp, did 150 plus mph and averaged 99mph for the 24 hours. The car was fitted with vents in the fenders, a rear under-tray and a rear spoiler. It is said that the body shape would average 30mpg at 100 mph. I have motored down Mulsanne Straight as a passenger when the Sprite was pulling 7200rpm in 5th gear. The message, give Healeys a bit of credit for what they achieved with what they had. I wont start on the streamliner 100.4 and 100.6 achievements. From varley at cosmos.net.au Sat May 19 23:39:39 2012 From: varley at cosmos.net.au (Larry Varley) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 15:39:39 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> <9CDBC5BA-EC72-4E2F-AA4F-92E59C0CE2DA@yahoo.com> <000901cd3365$7978dd50$6c6a97f0$@net> Message-ID: <4FB8839B.2020207@cosmos.net.au> I really can't let this pass, "The 4 speed is much more pleasant to drive than the BN1" I don't think so!! No offence, my opinion. Cheers Larry On 20/05/2012 1:11 PM, Randy Hicks wrote: > Ok. I guess I have to jump in on this. "Are they better?" > > Yes, they are better. Roughly 25% more horsepower, heavier sway bar resulting > in better handling. the 4 speed is much more pleasant to drive than the BN1, > and the louvered hood w/strap make them a standout in any crowd. Sure there > may have been some marketing ploy by Donald Healey with the 100 M but > regardless, it produced a faster, better driving car. Give him credit. > > May be why so many re-productions are built today! > > Now, take into account production numbers. 640 BN2 !00 M's built, maybe > 175-185 still exist today. BN1& BN2 production was roughly 14,000, and maybe > 3500+ (Rich ?) are still known to exist. Supply& Demand. When these fewer > items perform better& look better, they are going to bring significantly more > money. Add to that the prominence of being built at the Healey Racing Factory! > :-) > > To those of you have said that the 100 M should, or has, held a premium of 20% > -30% over a standard car, I'd ask, if you actually owned a 100M& wanted to > sell, would you price it within that range 20-30% range or what the market is > now paying for 100 M's? > > So, If in the 20-30% range, I have cash!!!! > > BTW, I have the 2 - 100 M's because they are the most fun to drive around the > back country roads where iI live. The BJ8 is for cross country tours. > Different cars for different purposes. (Not sure why I have the BN7 > tri-carb!) :-) > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100 M White/Black > '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW > '55 BN1 (Sold) > '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > > On May 16, 2012, at 3:02 PM, > wrote: > >> Hi Derek, >> There is nothing special about 100Ms. Its like Alpina BMWs or AMG > Mercedes`s. >> They are ranged in value a bit higher than the stock ones. But are they >> better?? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/varley at cosmos.net.au > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5010 - Release Date: 05/19/12 From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Sun May 20 03:14:58 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 11:14:58 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: References: <310675104.453244.1337179403915.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4FB65A97.7080706@comcast.net> <4C0DEE461258401195073D42C8DBEFE2@GregPC> Message-ID: I would say a 100M has its value when all the special M parts are with the car and original and its prove that with body and chassis number its a "real" 100M. Here on the east side of the Atlantic pond such cars seem to be rare rare like hen`s teeth. I have never seen one so far. Those 100M cars offered are usually modified and hence have lost what it makes a "real" 100M. So the prices asked for are not at justified. Some years ago such 100Ms were offered for about 3000 Euro`s or Brit. Pounds on top of an "ordinary" BN1 or BN2. This year I saw one of those 100Ms offered for 150TEuro, which is about double of an ordinary 100. People just think when they have a Heritage certificate which certifies the car as a "real" 100M its worth double of an ordinary 100, even fitted with lets say weber carbs, no matching engine number, front disk brakes, aluminium radiator, wrong colour, motolita steering wheel, etc. Ok, if the money is paid its worth the price - no doubt. But this is somewhat stupid in my mind and this bubble may burst one time. Time will show. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Michael Oritt Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Mai 2012 23:48 An: Greg Lemon Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale Though we all seem to agree that there is a differential value between an M and a standard 100 (or for that matter a Lemans) I did not see any opinions regarding how much that might be. I'd be interested in hearing thoughts regarding what premium attaches to an M. Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > " I do agree that 100Ms may be in a bit of speculative bubble, though > (it's been going on for several years, so may have some staying power). > More justified, IMO, in the bubble in old muscle cars, which have no > appeal to me. > > Bob" > > The really crazy bubble is the bubble in "bubble" or microcars, like > the Isettas and Mescheschmitts and such, which bring 20 or 30K or more > at auction restored these days. > > Greg From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sun May 20 06:20:16 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 22:20:16 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Historic Sports Car Racing, Silverstone - Photos including Healeys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: G'day Derek Noticed a photo of the rear of a Jensen 541. Did you get a chance to look at its engine? Gorgeous car and my favourite production coupe from the 1950s, but fitted with their original 4-litre Austin six-cylinder its performance could be best called lugubrious. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Derek Job Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2012 3:57 AM To: Forum Subject: [Healeys] Historic Sports Car Racing, Silverstone - Photos including Healeys Hi All I was at Silverstone today for the HSCC meeting. Lots of interesting cars and 5 Healeys including Rinus Simke's well known, yellow Big Healey driven (very fast) by his son Jaap. Plenty of American iron including ex racing cars of Dan Gurney, Al Unser and Peter Gethin. When I was taking photos of Rinus' Healey on the pit wall I found myself standing next to a very understated Christian Horner, Chief of the Red Bull F1 Team. He was sharingthe driving of an E-Type with F1 designer Adrian Newey. Not a Red Bull logo in sight. You can see the photos here http://s1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj530/derekcjob/HSCC/ Derek www.healeysix.com _______________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun May 20 06:29:33 2012 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 08:29:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Optima batteries Message-ID: Has anyone ever installed a pair of the optima 6V batteries in their car? They are 10" long at their longest point. I'm guessing 9" length for the main body with a longer base for clamping down. Optima sent me a CAD drawing of the battery, but I can't open it from this device. http://www.optimabatteries.com/_media/documents/specs/6V_121207.pdf Or http://tinyurl.com/8y5ew5l I seem to have a romantic attachment to dual sixes, but I have next to none for the corrosive aspects of the older style batteries. I have constructed a light cardboard box of the maximum dimensions of the optima and put it in place of one of the original type batteries. I also removed the tray and one of the battery hold down rods. I put some images of the clearances at the link below. Select the links that begin with 6v, if you are interested. I originally placed it diagonally, thinking that keeping it as far away from the diff and drive shaft was a good idea. I took pictures that way. I think building battery trays would be a major task for me. I've since moved it to straight back, but can't post an image from here. :( I believe that they will fit. But, how much will that rear end move? http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/ Has anyone done this? PS: I am the type who likes my modifications to bolt in and bolt out. From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun May 20 07:30:51 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 09:30:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale In-Reply-To: <4FB8839B.2020207@cosmos.net.au> References: <47a08.7644633e.3ce437ff@aol.com> <9CDBC5BA-EC72-4E2F-AA4F-92E59C0CE2DA@yahoo.com> <000901cd3365$7978dd50$6c6a97f0$@net> <4FB8839B.2020207@cosmos.net.au> Message-ID: <001b01cd368c$ca3c1930$5eb44b90$@net> I also totally agree with Larry on this one. Having owned and driven both extensively, I always prefer the 3 speed box for sheer fun and great ratios. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Varley Sent: May-20-12 1:40 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] "100-M" for sale I really can't let this pass, "The 4 speed is much more pleasant to drive than the BN1" I don't think so!! No offence, my opinion. Cheers Larry On 20/05/2012 1:11 PM, Randy Hicks wrote: > Ok. I guess I have to jump in on this. "Are they better?" > > Yes, they are better. Roughly 25% more horsepower, heavier sway bar > resulting in better handling. the 4 speed is much more pleasant to > drive than the BN1, and the louvered hood w/strap make them a standout > in any crowd. Sure there may have been some marketing ploy by Donald > Healey with the 100 M but regardless, it produced a faster, better driving car. Give him credit. > > May be why so many re-productions are built today! > > Now, take into account production numbers. 640 BN2 !00 M's built, > maybe > 175-185 still exist today. BN1& BN2 production was roughly 14,000, > and maybe > 3500+ (Rich ?) are still known to exist. Supply& Demand. When these > 3500+ fewer > items perform better& look better, they are going to bring > significantly more money. Add to that the prominence of being built at the Healey Racing Factory! > :-) > > To those of you have said that the 100 M should, or has, held a > premium of 20% -30% over a standard car, I'd ask, if you actually > owned a 100M& wanted to sell, would you price it within that range > 20-30% range or what the market is now paying for 100 M's? > > So, If in the 20-30% range, I have cash!!!! > > BTW, I have the 2 - 100 M's because they are the most fun to drive > around the back country roads where iI live. The BJ8 is for cross country tours. > Different cars for different purposes. (Not sure why I have the BN7 > tri-carb!) :-) > > Randy > > Randy Hicks From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun May 20 07:40:33 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 09:40:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Optima batteries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001c01cd368e$215cd3c0$64167b40$@net> Robert, I f you want to get away from the original twin 6V acid type batteries, then never mind messing with the two 6V Optimas when you can simply install one 12V Optima on one side and anchor it down suitably. We've fitted this setup on a number of cars and it works extremely well with plenty of clearance. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: May-20-12 8:30 AM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Optima batteries Has anyone ever installed a pair of the optima 6V batteries in their car? They are 10" long at their longest point. I'm guessing 9" length for the main body with a longer base for clamping down. Optima sent me a CAD drawing of the battery, but I can't open it from this device. http://www.optimabatteries.com/_media/documents/specs/6V_121207.pdf Or http://tinyurl.com/8y5ew5l I seem to have a romantic attachment to dual sixes, but I have next to none for the corrosive aspects of the older style batteries. I have constructed a light cardboard box of the maximum dimensions of the optima and put it in place of one of the original type batteries. I also removed the tray and one of the battery hold down rods. I put some images of the clearances at the link below. Select the links that begin with 6v, if you are interested. I originally placed it diagonally, thinking that keeping it as far away from the diff and drive shaft was a good idea. I took pictures that way. I think building battery trays would be a major task for me. I've since moved it to straight back, but can't post an image from here. :( I believe that they will fit. But, how much will that rear end move? http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/ Has anyone done this? PS: I am the type who likes my modifications to bolt in and bolt out. $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From derek.c.job at gmail.com Sun May 20 08:00:31 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 15:00:31 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Historic Sports Car Racing, Silverstone - Photos including Healeys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Patrick Yes that 541 shape is pretty distinctive. I didn't get chance to check the engine as the bonnet was closed. I just assumned they had some kind of American V8 in them. Did you see the sleek red fast back coupe in the photos. Must admit I didn't know what it was. turns out it is a Morgan SLR from the early 1960s. The entire world production of 3 was at Silverstone yesterday!. The red one, a green one and a polished aluminum one which is also in one of the photos. Beautiful cars. Derek www.healeysix.net On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > G'day Derek > > Noticed a photo of the rear of a Jensen 541. Did you get a chance to look > at > its engine? > > Gorgeous car and my favourite production coupe from the 1950s, but fitted > with their original 4-litre Austin six-cylinder its performance could be > best called lugubrious. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Derek Job > Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2012 3:57 AM > To: Forum > Subject: [Healeys] Historic Sports Car Racing, Silverstone - Photos > including Healeys > > Hi All > > I was at Silverstone today for the HSCC meeting. Lots of interesting cars > and 5 Healeys including Rinus Simke's well known, yellow Big Healey driven > (very fast) by his son Jaap. Plenty of American iron including ex racing > cars of Dan Gurney, Al Unser and Peter Gethin. > > When I was taking photos of Rinus' Healey on the pit wall I found myself > standing next to a very understated Christian Horner, Chief of the Red Bull > F1 Team. He was sharingthe driving of an E-Type with F1 designer Adrian > Newey. Not a Red Bull logo in sight. > > You can see the photos here > > http://s1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj530/derekcjob/HSCC/ > > Derek > www.healeysix.com > _______________________________________________ From MBran89793 at aol.com Sun May 20 08:53:25 2012 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 10:53:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Historic Sports Car Racing, Silverstone - Photos including Hea... Message-ID: <103dc.5afe8b1c.3cea5f65@aol.com> Hi- Love the pictures very much. But as I reviewed the pictures there was one Healey that caught my eye, the dark blue & white #60. (The left side fender FLASH is actually one that was made to be fitted on the right side fender. Did not see a picture of the right side so I'm not sure if it also had the one for the left side there.) I have seen this error several times. FWIW There is even a Pacific Green 3000 pictured in the Original AUSTIN-HEALEY by Anders Ditlev Clausager that has both the Flashes incorrectly installed. (Pages 14 & 65.) Marion Brantley In a message dated 5/20/2012 10:07:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, derek.c.job at gmail.com writes: http://s1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj530/derekcjob/HSCC/ From mjackley at spe.midco.net Sun May 20 09:57:24 2012 From: mjackley at spe.midco.net (Mike Jackley) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 09:57:24 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 glovebox lock Message-ID: <0F8D61D5E1B44F31B0119ADE09F5675E@JackleyHP> Is there a spring anywhere in the BJ8 glove box assembly? If so where and what kind of spring? The catch portion of my lock just does not go up far enough when locked to hold the door in, especially with a new dash. Mike Jackley, Sturgis, SD From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Sun May 20 10:28:43 2012 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 17:28:43 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Optima batteries In-Reply-To: <001c01cd368e$215cd3c0$64167b40$@net> References: <001c01cd368e$215cd3c0$64167b40$@net> Message-ID: Robert I have done the same on both of my 100s. It was Rich who gave me the idea. Fitting can be achieved without making any irreversible changes to the car. Because the Optima battery needs to be held by it base I made a weatherproof ply platform and painted it back. It fits to the car with two countersunk screws that go into the holes vacated by the long hold down rods. Onto this board are two angle clamps that fit over the battery base flanges. One is solidly fixed whilst the other has slots to allow it to be pushed hard against the base of the battery before tightening up. Obviously you need a long positive lead to replace both the battery link and short switch to other original battery link. This can be supported in the original centre 'P' clip. There is less space on my BN2 because of the Hypoid rear axle but there is still enough clearance to be safe. The original advantages of the Optima battery are in my opinion well worth having although perhaps more expensive than some other set ups.. That is, no spillage or topping up and a healthy starting current even after a few months non use. I have in mind using the space left by the second battery to make and fit a wooden fixed tool box but I have yet to do this Best regards > >I f you want to get away from the original twin 6V acid type batteries, then >never mind messing with the two 6V Optimas when you can simply install one >12V Optima on one side and anchor it down suitably. We've fitted this setup >on a number of cars and it works extremely well with plenty of clearance. > >Rich > -- John Harper From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Sun May 20 12:05:54 2012 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 20:05:54 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Beautiful photo set of MKI Message-ID: <3C4C0A9B-05BD-406E-94DE-15DE3169AD81@bornet.net> For those that might be interested I have just posted a lovely set of studio photos of a Sebring inspired MKI. The photos were taken by professional Swedish photographer Peter Gunnars. Please click on the following link: http://www.concourshealeys.com/one-of-the-best-set-of-austin-healey-photos-i% C2%B4ve-ever-seen-by-peter-gunnars/ Magnus Karlsson www.concourshealeys.com From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Sun May 20 14:25:05 2012 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 22:25:05 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Beautiful photo set of MKI Message-ID: <1CB31642-F534-4878-A0D9-54FABAFE7E7C@bornet.net> I'm afraid that I sent a broken link to these photos in my previous mail. Please try the link below instead: http://www.concourshealeys.com/one-of-the-best-set-of-austin-healey-photos-iB 4ve-ever-seen-by-peter-gunnars/ Magnus Karlsson www.concourshealeys.com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Sun May 20 14:32:20 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 21:32:20 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Beautiful photo set of MKI In-Reply-To: <3C4C0A9B-05BD-406E-94DE-15DE3169AD81@bornet.net> References: <3C4C0A9B-05BD-406E-94DE-15DE3169AD81@bornet.net> Message-ID: Great photos Magnus. Derek On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Magnus Karlsson wrote: > For those that might be interested I have just posted a lovely set of > studio > photos of a Sebring inspired MKI. The photos were taken by professional > Swedish photographer Peter Gunnars. > > Please click on the following link: > > > http://www.concourshealeys.com/one-of-the-best-set-of-austin-healey-photos-i% > C2%B4ve-ever-seen-by-peter-gunnars/ > > > Magnus Karlsson > > www.concourshealeys.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From jagxk120 at gmail.com Sun May 20 14:37:24 2012 From: jagxk120 at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 22:37:24 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Beautiful photo set of MKI In-Reply-To: <1CB31642-F534-4878-A0D9-54FABAFE7E7C@bornet.net> References: <1CB31642-F534-4878-A0D9-54FABAFE7E7C@bornet.net> Message-ID: <4FB95604.1020704@gmail.com> Magnus, use tinyurl.com to get shorter URLs. B Le 20/05/12 22:25, Magnus Karlsson a icrit : > I'm afraid that I sent a broken link to these photos in my previous mail. > Please try the link below instead: > > http://www.concourshealeys.com/one-of-the-best-set-of-austin-healey-photos-iB > 4ve-ever-seen-by-peter-gunnars/ > > Magnus Karlsson > www.concourshealeys.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bcrist at club-internet.fr From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Sun May 20 14:53:18 2012 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 22:53:18 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Beautiful photo set of MKI Message-ID: <146499F7-0A18-493F-A6CE-456A905098E8@bornet.net> I4m very sorry to bomb the list but it seems that my long links don4t work very well. It was suggested that I try tiny url. Please try this link instead: http://tinyurl.com/7nha2wr Magnus Karlsson www.concourshealeys.com From mark at bradakis.com Sun May 20 15:41:57 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 15:41:57 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Beautiful photo set of MKI In-Reply-To: <146499F7-0A18-493F-A6CE-456A905098E8@bornet.net> References: <146499F7-0A18-493F-A6CE-456A905098E8@bornet.net> Message-ID: <4FB96525.70202@bradakis.com> Magnus Karlsson wrote: > I4m very sorry to bomb the list but it seems that my long links don4t work > very well. Yes, a lot of mail programs out there will "do you a favor" and put a break in a long line. So when the mail shows up at the server it is not a continuous, clickable link. mjb. From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun May 20 16:15:02 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 06:15:02 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Disgrace Message-ID: <910E999A-4D58-4454-AB44-18A655FF8793@gmail.com> You know, there's nothing that chaps my hyde more than some moron who thinks he'll get more money by advertising a car like this as a "rat rod". This car looks complete as well. I mean he even stripped the paint just to prove it is all aluminum. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160804277449 From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sun May 20 16:34:11 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 08:34:11 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Disgrace In-Reply-To: <910E999A-4D58-4454-AB44-18A655FF8793@gmail.com> References: <910E999A-4D58-4454-AB44-18A655FF8793@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15D33F8F1F514F1CA0D0EC64355CA145@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day I agree as the AC saloons are lovely cars and with the AC all alloy engine are also very light. Hope someone buys it with a view of restoration. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012 8:15 AM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Disgrace You know, there's nothing that chaps my hyde more than some moron who thinks he'll get more money by advertising a car like this as a "rat rod". This car looks complete as well. I mean he even stripped the paint just to prove it is all aluminum. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160804277449 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Sun May 20 16:50:45 2012 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 08:50:45 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Disgrace In-Reply-To: <15D33F8F1F514F1CA0D0EC64355CA145@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <910E999A-4D58-4454-AB44-18A655FF8793@gmail.com> <15D33F8F1F514F1CA0D0EC64355CA145@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: Alloy block, iron head Patrick! I went after one of these a few years ago in Qld - $4000. I didn't pursue as I didn't have space, & later heard it was bought by someone who intended to junk the body & build an AC Ace replica on it! (Now THAT's a disgrace!) Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 8:34 AM To: 'Alan Seigrist' ; 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Disgrace G'day I agree as the AC saloons are lovely cars and with the AC all alloy engine are also very light. Hope someone buys it with a view of restoration. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012 8:15 AM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Disgrace You know, there's nothing that chaps my hyde more than some moron who thinks he'll get more money by advertising a car like this as a "rat rod". This car looks complete as well. I mean he even stripped the paint just to prove it is all aluminum. From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sun May 20 17:48:01 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 09:48:01 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Disgrace In-Reply-To: References: <910E999A-4D58-4454-AB44-18A655FF8793@gmail.com> <15D33F8F1F514F1CA0D0EC64355CA145@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <4A0A43DEFBF4485D8FDF256F4BDF4213@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day You're right. Just checked my one and only AC saloon book 'AC Two-Litre Saloons & Buckland Sports cars' and it says that it had a cast iron cylinder head and alloy block. It was also fitted with a SOHC. I am reminded that the engine was first introduced in 1919 and stayed in production for the saloons until 1958. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Peter & Veronica [mailto:greylinn at ozemail.com.au] Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012 8:51 AM To: Patrick and Caroline Quinn; 'Alan Seigrist'; 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Disgrace Alloy block, iron head Patrick! I went after one of these a few years ago in Qld - $4000. I didn't pursue as I didn't have space, & later heard it was bought by someone who intended to junk the body & build an AC Ace replica on it! (Now THAT's a disgrace!) Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 8:34 AM To: 'Alan Seigrist' ; 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Disgrace G'day I agree as the AC saloons are lovely cars and with the AC all alloy engine are also very light. Hope someone buys it with a view of restoration. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012 8:15 AM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Disgrace You know, there's nothing that chaps my hyde more than some moron who thinks he'll get more money by advertising a car like this as a "rat rod". This car looks complete as well. I mean he even stripped the paint just to prove it is all aluminum. From linwoodrose at mac.com Sun May 20 19:03:23 2012 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (Linwood H Rose) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 21:03:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Beautiful photo set of MKI In-Reply-To: <146499F7-0A18-493F-A6CE-456A905098E8@bornet.net> References: <146499F7-0A18-493F-A6CE-456A905098E8@bornet.net> Message-ID: <82DC0D94-BF6C-476B-B21E-15DB2F6CE6FB@mac.com> Magnus, Thanks for sharing those! As the owner of a MKI I was especially pleased to see the Sebring car. Thanks again. Lin Lin Rose 1959 AN5 Bugeye - pure driving enjoyment, go-kart with a body. 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" - owned since 1971, my first car and still have it! 1964 Jag MKII - current project From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon May 21 06:59:48 2012 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 08:59:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Optima batteries In-Reply-To: <001c01cd368e$215cd3c0$64167b40$@net> References: <001c01cd368e$215cd3c0$64167b40$@net> Message-ID: Thanks, Rich! I had heard of this option. I think someone even sells the tray for this option? It sounds like the most practical and economical and speedy path to accomplishing a modification to a more modern battery, but ... Sometimes I'm a bit eccentric ... Why be normal? :). ( I'm normal enough in most ways, but every once in a while, I get a bee in my bonnet. ) On 2012-05-20, at 9:40 AM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > Robert, > > I f you want to get away from the original twin 6V acid type batteries, then > never mind messing with the two 6V Optimas when you can simply install one > 12V Optima on one side and anchor it down suitably. We've fitted this setup > on a number of cars and it works extremely well with plenty of clearance. > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Robert Duquette > Sent: May-20-12 8:30 AM > To: Healeys > Subject: [Healeys] Optima batteries > > Has anyone ever installed a pair of the optima 6V batteries in their car? > They are 10" long at their longest point. I'm guessing 9" length for the > main body with a longer base for clamping down. Optima sent me a CAD > drawing of the battery, but I can't open it from this device. > > http://www.optimabatteries.com/_media/documents/specs/6V_121207.pdf > Or > http://tinyurl.com/8y5ew5l > > I seem to have a romantic attachment to dual sixes, but I have next to none > for the corrosive aspects of the older style batteries. > > I have constructed a light cardboard box of the maximum dimensions of the > optima and put it in place of one of the original type batteries. I also > removed the tray and one of the battery hold down rods. I put some images > of the clearances at the link below. Select the links that begin with 6v, > if you are interested. I originally placed it diagonally, thinking that > keeping it as far away from the diff and drive shaft was a good idea. I > took pictures that way. I think building battery trays would be a major > task for me. I've since moved it to straight back, but can't post an image > from here. :( I believe that they will fit. But, how much will that rear > end move? > > http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/ > > Has anyone done this? > > PS: I am the type who likes my modifications to bolt in and bolt out. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon May 21 07:21:11 2012 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 09:21:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Optima batteries In-Reply-To: References: <001c01cd368e$215cd3c0$64167b40$@net> Message-ID: Thanks, John! I was planning to build (or have built) similar trays, though, out of metal, with perhaps a bend over at the diff end to hold that end of the battery base snuggly and using the hole where the original battery hold down rod attaches at the bulkhead end. I had an Optima battery in my Midget and I think they're great. Thanks for the detail that you supplied. What is this "P clip"? Did it support the positive cable? Or the centre cable? Robert On 2012-05-20, at 12:28 PM, John Harper wrote: > > Robert > > I have done the same on both of my 100s. It was Rich who gave me the idea. > > Fitting can be achieved without making any irreversible changes to the car. Because the Optima battery needs to be held by it base I made a weatherproof ply platform and painted it back. It fits to the car with two countersunk screws that go into the holes vacated by the long hold down rods. Onto this board are two angle clamps that fit over the battery base flanges. One is solidly fixed whilst the other has slots to allow it to be pushed hard against the base of the battery before tightening up. Obviously you need a long positive lead to replace both the battery link and short switch to other original battery link. This can be supported in the original centre 'P' clip. > > There is less space on my BN2 because of the Hypoid rear axle but there is still enough clearance to be safe. > > The original advantages of the Optima battery are in my opinion well worth having although perhaps more expensive than some other set ups.. That is, no spillage or topping up and a healthy starting current even after a few months non use. > > I have in mind using the space left by the second battery to make and fit a wooden fixed tool box but I have yet to do this > > Best regards > >> >> I f you want to get away from the original twin 6V acid type batteries, then >> never mind messing with the two 6V Optimas when you can simply install one >> 12V Optima on one side and anchor it down suitably. We've fitted this setup >> on a number of cars and it works extremely well with plenty of clearance. >> >> Rich >> > -- > John Harper From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Mon May 21 08:23:09 2012 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 09:23:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey - 2012 Sea Lion In-Reply-To: References: <8CEE2D412E5781C-C74-7D02@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <002501cd375d$40f8dd30$c2ea9790$@net> Interesting, but a bit pricy at $259,500 for a car that only has one windshield wiper. But it can store 2 bicycles. http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/1216-Marc%20Witt%20Applied%20Design-Sea% 20Lion%20Amphibious%20%2020%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20% 20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20World%20Record%20Competition%20Vehicle%20-Ma zda%2013B%20Rotary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtHH0mkh-I0 &feature=youtu.be http://dvice.com/archives/2012/05/yours-for-25950.php From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Mon May 21 08:16:22 2012 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 15:16:22 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Optima batteries In-Reply-To: References: <001c01cd368e$215cd3c0$64167b40$@net> Message-ID: Robert Centre cable Regards > >I was planning to build (or have built) similar trays, though, out of metal, >with perhaps a bend over at the diff end to hold that end of the battery base >snuggly and using the hole where the original battery hold down rod attaches >at the bulkhead end. > >I had an Optima battery in my Midget and I think they're great. > >Thanks for the detail that you supplied. What is this "P clip"? Did it >support the positive cable? Or the centre cable? > >Robert > > >On 2012-05-20, at 12:28 PM, John Harper wrote: > >> >> Robert >> >> I have done the same on both of my 100s. It was Rich who gave me the idea. >> >> Fitting can be achieved without making any irreversible changes to the car. >Because the Optima battery needs to be held by it base I made a weatherproof >ply platform and painted it back. It fits to the car with two countersunk >screws that go into the holes vacated by the long hold down rods. Onto this >board are two angle clamps that fit over the battery base flanges. One is >solidly fixed whilst the other has slots to allow it to be pushed hard against >the base of the battery before tightening up. Obviously you need a long >positive lead to replace both the battery link and short switch to other >original battery link. This can be supported in the original centre 'P' clip. >> >> There is less space on my BN2 because of the Hypoid rear axle but there is >still enough clearance to be safe. >> >> The original advantages of the Optima battery are in my opinion well worth >having although perhaps more expensive than some other set ups.. That is, no >spillage or topping up and a healthy starting current even after a few months >non use. >> >> I have in mind using the space left by the second battery to make and fit a >wooden fixed tool box but I have yet to do this >> >> Best regards >> >>> >>> I f you want to get away from the original twin 6V acid type batteries, >then >>> never mind messing with the two 6V Optimas when you can simply install one >>> 12V Optima on one side and anchor it down suitably. We've fitted this >setup >>> on a number of cars and it works extremely well with plenty of clearance. >>> >>> Rich >>> >> -- >> John Harper >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah at jharper.demon.co.uk > -- John Harper From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon May 21 09:07:18 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:07:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey - 2012 Sea Lion In-Reply-To: <002501cd375d$40f8dd30$c2ea9790$@net> References: <8CEE2D412E5781C-C74-7D02@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> <002501cd375d$40f8dd30$c2ea9790$@net> Message-ID: <002101cd3763$6ab306e0$401914a0$@verizon.net> Here is the tiny URL for this: http://tinyurl.com/6p349ng John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Ray Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:23 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey - 2012 Sea Lion Interesting, but a bit pricy at $259,500 for a car that only has one windshield wiper. But it can store 2 bicycles. http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/1216-Marc%20Witt%20Applied%20Design-Sea% 20Lion%20Amphibious%20%2020%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20% 20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20World%20Record%20Competition%20Vehicle%20-Ma zda%2013B%20Rotary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtHH0mkh-I0 &feature=youtu.be http://dvice.com/archives/2012/05/yours-for-25950.php $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From editorgary at aol.com Mon May 21 11:13:51 2012 From: editorgary at aol.com (editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 13:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Smith Brody Message-ID: <8CF058C3A85EAF0-9A0-29360@webmail-m068.sysops.aol.com> Has anyone had any contact with Smith Brody in the last month or so? We've called both of his telephone numbers but haven't gotten any response. Thanks. Gary Anderson From derek.c.job at gmail.com Mon May 21 13:26:20 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 20:26:20 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey - 2012 Sea Lion In-Reply-To: <002101cd3763$6ab306e0$401914a0$@verizon.net> References: <8CEE2D412E5781C-C74-7D02@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> <002501cd375d$40f8dd30$c2ea9790$@net> <002101cd3763$6ab306e0$401914a0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: As an engineering exercise it's very interesting, as a commercial venture, it's absolute madness. Derek On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:07 PM, John Sims wrote: > Here is the tiny URL for this: > > http://tinyurl.com/6p349ng > > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Ron Ray > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:23 AM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey - 2012 Sea Lion > > Interesting, but a bit pricy at $259,500 for a car that only has one > windshield wiper. But it can store 2 bicycles. > > > http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/1216-Marc%20Witt%20Applied%20Design-Sea% > > 20Lion%20Amphibious%20%2020%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20% > > 20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20World%20Record%20Competition%20Vehicle%20-Ma > zda%2013B%20Rotary > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtHH0mkh-I0 > > &feature=youtu.be > > http://dvice.com/archives/2012/05/yours-for-25950.php > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From austin.healey at gmail.com Tue May 22 06:25:13 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 22:25:13 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey - 2012 Sea Lion In-Reply-To: References: <8CEE2D412E5781C-C74-7D02@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com> <002501cd375d$40f8dd30$c2ea9790$@net> <002101cd3763$6ab306e0$401914a0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <7CD7E12A-5DA8-47EB-8137-D2F9A10C2F8C@gmail.com> I think that most land speed record cars aren't based on any thoughts of a commercial return. It's about innovation. Achievement. Not investment. I suspect if you emailed that guy, and asked him where he got the selling price from; it would actually be a formula like: (what I paid for things I bought), plus (the cost of other stuff I had), plus (the hours I worked on this project for the last 10 years) @ $5 per hour. Seriously. I know nothing about this project other than what I've learnt reading this, and following links. This guy is an innovator. He could well be a genius. But don't bag his price. Follow the links. The closest contender car/ boat device sells vehicle promoted as a $200k plus "chick magnet"!! ;-) Chris Sent from my iPhone On 22/05/2012, at 5:26 AM, Derek Job wrote: > As an engineering exercise it's very interesting, as a commercial venture, > it's absolute madness. > > Derek > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:07 PM, John Sims wrote: > >> Here is the tiny URL for this: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/6p349ng >> >> >> John Sims, BN6 >> Aberdeen, NJ >> >> http://www.healey6.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: >> healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of Ron Ray >> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:23 AM >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey - 2012 Sea Lion >> >> Interesting, but a bit pricy at $259,500 for a car that only has one >> windshield wiper. But it can store 2 bicycles. From theswed at hotmail.com Tue May 22 09:31:46 2012 From: theswed at hotmail.com (Kenny J) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 08:31:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sighting Message-ID: Anyone on the list own a red #21 traveling on N/B US101 (on a tow truck) in Marin today. Kenny 61 BT7 From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue May 22 09:36:36 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 11:36:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Early Friday Funny Message-ID: <011001cd3830$ad16f140$0744d3c0$@verizon.net> A lovely poem !!! Satnav I have a little Satnav It sits there in my car A Satnav is a driver's friend It tells you where you are I have a little Satnav I've had it all my life It does more than the normal one My Satnav is my wife It gives me full instructions On exactly how to drive "It's thirty miles an hour" it says "And you're doing thirty five" It tells me when to stop and start And when to use the brake And tells me that it's never ever Safe to overtake It tells me when a light is red And when it goes to green It seems to know instinctively Just when to intervene It lists the vehicles just in front It lists those to the rear And taking this into account It specifies my gear I'm sure no other driver Has so helpful a device For when we leave and lock the car It still gives its advice It fills me up with counselling Each journey's pretty fraught So why don't I exchange it And get a quieter sort? Ah well, you see, it cleans the house Makes sure I'm properly fed It washes all my shirts and things And - keeps me warm in bed! From healeybn7 at yahoo.com Tue May 22 12:32:33 2012 From: healeybn7 at yahoo.com (Dean Caccavo) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 11:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Smith Brody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1337711553.41007.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Gary, I saw his Panoz up on his lift as I drove by his shop a week or so ago. Assumed he was working on it as it was outside. I'll try to swing by this week or weekend to see if he is around, but if he is not answering the phone he is probably on the road:) Dean Subject: [Healeys] Smith Brody Message-ID: <8CF058C3A85EAF0-9A0-29360 at webmail-m068.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Has anyone had any contact with Smith Brody in the last month or so? We've called both of his telephone numbers but haven't gotten any response. Thanks. Gary Anderson From jimmy_smith at comcast.net Tue May 22 14:33:37 2012 From: jimmy_smith at comcast.net (jimmy_smith at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 20:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] test only, Message-ID: <924740322.635532.1337718817860.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> this is a test. From lostboys65 at yahoo.com Tue May 22 14:41:04 2012 From: lostboys65 at yahoo.com (John Roesle) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Gauges Message-ID: <1337719264.247.androidMobile@web120504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Need advise on best place to get gauges for 100 6 refurbished. Thanks John 1957 BN4 Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From bspidell at comcast.net Tue May 22 15:49:01 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 21:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] test only, In-Reply-To: <924740322.635532.1337718817860.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1218981986.711434.1337723341120.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Did we pass? Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "jimmy smith" To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:33:37 PM Subject: [Healeys] test only, this is a test. _______________________________________________ From mark at bradakis.com Tue May 22 15:59:55 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 15:59:55 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] test only, In-Reply-To: <1218981986.711434.1337723341120.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1218981986.711434.1337723341120.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4FBC0C5B.4070105@bradakis.com> Bob Spidell wrote: > Did we pass? > > Usually we get passed. mjb. From healeyguy at bredband.net Tue May 22 16:21:19 2012 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 00:21:19 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] test only, In-Reply-To: <4FBC0C5B.4070105@bradakis.com> References: <1218981986.711434.1337723341120.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4FBC0C5B.4070105@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <4FBC115F.90908@bredband.net> Made my day. Per Mark J Bradakis skrev 2012-05-22 23:59: > Bob Spidell wrote: >> Did we pass? >> >> > > Usually we get passed. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at bredband.net From cleona44 at hotmail.com Tue May 22 16:22:24 2012 From: cleona44 at hotmail.com (Jim Lesher) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 18:22:24 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Gauges In-Reply-To: <1337719264.247.androidMobile@web120504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1337719264.247.androidMobile@web120504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: john - try http://www.nisonger.com you should not be disappointed. what is the build date on your Longbridge? jim lesher > Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:41:04 -0700 > From: lostboys65 at yahoo.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Gauges > > Need advise on best place to get gauges for 100 6 refurbished. > > Thanks > > John > 1957 BN4 > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cleona44 at hotmail.com From austin.healey at gmail.com Wed May 23 04:18:56 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 20:18:56 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake booster fail locks brakes on Message-ID: <6D097572-4BC5-42BB-8A01-6D11910D4D55@gmail.com> Hey guys, Ever had a BJ8 brake booster fail so it locks your brakes on? My brake booster (BJ8 std type) effectively pushed the pedal high, and locked all the brakes on. Solid Pushing hard on the pedal released the brakes, but next time you touched them, same thing. 4 wheels locked solid. This isn't a diagnosis question. I had replaced calipers, hoses, rebuilt wheel cylinders, rebuilt the brake master cyl, replaced the reseviour with a new one, and fitted a rebuilt BJ8 Booster. fitted new linings and shoes. And a New one way valve in the booster vacuum line. Thats when the problem started... So I re rebuilt master cylinder. Twice. Checked and double checked everyting Checked the booster one way valve. Glimmer of hope was disconnecting the "new" booster. Problem vanished - but no booster. Today I put my old booster back on. Std BJ8, rebuilt 14 years ago. Brakes are now perfect again. This preventative maintenance has hairs all over it.... So the question is.... What's wrong with my newly rebuilt BJ8 booster that it doesn't release the vacuum???? Ideas? Your experiences?? Thanks in advance. Best From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed May 23 04:28:48 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (healey.nut at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 10:28:48 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake booster fail locks brakes on In-Reply-To: <6D097572-4BC5-42BB-8A01-6D11910D4D55@gmail.com> References: <6D097572-4BC5-42BB-8A01-6D11910D4D55@gmail.com> Message-ID: Chris - The rubber seal used under the leather seal of the vaccum piston needs to be cut in about half. The leather seal only needs a slight amount of pressure from the rubber to work properly. Many kits use a rubber seal that's either too firm or too big, and it causes the piston and the can to lock shut. Very common problem for years. Hope that helps. Alan Sent from my BlackBerry. smartphone www.blackberry.com -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dimmock Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 23 May 2012 20:18:56 To: Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake booster fail locks brakes on Hey guys, Ever had a BJ8 brake booster fail so it locks your brakes on? My brake booster (BJ8 std type) effectively pushed the pedal high, and locked all the brakes on. Solid Pushing hard on the pedal released the brakes, but next time you touched them, same thing. 4 wheels locked solid. This isn't a diagnosis question. I had replaced calipers, hoses, rebuilt wheel cylinders, rebuilt the brake master cyl, replaced the reseviour with a new one, and fitted a rebuilt BJ8 Booster. fitted new linings and shoes. And a New one way valve in the booster vacuum line. Thats when the problem started... So I re rebuilt master cylinder. Twice. Checked and double checked everyting Checked the booster one way valve. Glimmer of hope was disconnecting the "new" booster. Problem vanished - but no booster. Today I put my old booster back on. Std BJ8, rebuilt 14 years ago. Brakes are now perfect again. This preventative maintenance has hairs all over it.... So the question is.... What's wrong with my newly rebuilt BJ8 booster that it doesn't release the vacuum???? Ideas? Your experiences?? Thanks in advance. Best _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed May 23 04:30:06 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 20:30:06 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake booster fail locks brakes on In-Reply-To: <6D097572-4BC5-42BB-8A01-6D11910D4D55@gmail.com> References: <6D097572-4BC5-42BB-8A01-6D11910D4D55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <02010D032FA8414DA4F235048DBA1779@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Christopher Yes had the same experience with a Mk2 Jaguar that used to be our everyday car. Yes it locked solid on Pennant Hills Road in the middle of peak hour. I was later told that that the booster was the same as a BJ8. I didn't know of course as you would realise I'm from the era when real Austin-Healeys didn't have brake boosters. ;) Took it to a few so-called Jaguar experts, but most were just that - 'sperts'. In the end took it to Better Brakes in Parramatta who said that it was a dooverhicky inside that wasn't letting the fluid return. I took that as technical talk for valve. Anyway first of all they actually found the booster in the car which is tucked away upside down and underneath the right hand side innerguard and then rebuilt it. Worked like a charm after that. Now Christopher as you have experienced a spanner wielding moment with your Austin-Healey it seems to me that you should have taken photos of what you have done and we can prepare an article for Flat Clat. What say you? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Dimmock Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 8:19 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake booster fail locks brakes on Hey guys, Ever had a BJ8 brake booster fail so it locks your brakes on? My brake booster (BJ8 std type) effectively pushed the pedal high, and locked all the brakes on. Solid Pushing hard on the pedal released the brakes, but next time you touched them, same thing. 4 wheels locked solid. This isn't a diagnosis question. I had replaced calipers, hoses, rebuilt wheel cylinders, rebuilt the brake master cyl, replaced the reseviour with a new one, and fitted a rebuilt BJ8 Booster. fitted new linings and shoes. And a New one way valve in the booster vacuum line. Thats when the problem started... So I re rebuilt master cylinder. Twice. Checked and double checked everyting Checked the booster one way valve. Glimmer of hope was disconnecting the "new" booster. Problem vanished - but no booster. Today I put my old booster back on. Std BJ8, rebuilt 14 years ago. Brakes are now perfect again. This preventative maintenance has hairs all over it.... So the question is.... What's wrong with my newly rebuilt BJ8 booster that it doesn't release the vacuum???? Ideas? Your experiences?? Thanks in advance. Best Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au From austin.healey at gmail.com Wed May 23 04:39:19 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 20:39:19 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake booster fail locks brakes on In-Reply-To: <02010D032FA8414DA4F235048DBA1779@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <6D097572-4BC5-42BB-8A01-6D11910D4D55@gmail.com> <02010D032FA8414DA4F235048DBA1779@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: Thanks Alan, I'll investigate along those lines. So frustrating!!! Hey Patrick, I'll write you an article. But My brake fluid dripping hands were not in the mood for a camera.... I can include a pic of my BJ8 stopped, which may infer the brakes were locked on. I can also include a pic of the offending brake booster, which I didn't assault with a large hammer, because I want to fix it. Deal? ;-) Best Chris On 23/05/2012, at 8:30 PM, "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" wrote: > G'day Christopher > > Yes had the same experience with a Mk2 Jaguar that used to be our everyday > car. Yes it locked solid on Pennant Hills Road in the middle of peak hour. I > was later told that that the booster was the same as a BJ8. I didn't know of > course as you would realise I'm from the era when real Austin-Healeys didn't > have brake boosters. ;) > > Took it to a few so-called Jaguar experts, but most were just that - > 'sperts'. In the end took it to Better Brakes in Parramatta who said that it > was a dooverhicky inside that wasn't letting the fluid return. I took that > as technical talk for valve. Anyway first of all they actually found the > booster in the car which is tucked away upside down and underneath the right > hand side innerguard and then rebuilt it. > > Worked like a charm after that. > > Now Christopher as you have experienced a spanner wielding moment with your > Austin-Healey it seems to me that you should have taken photos of what you > have done and we can prepare an article for Flat Clat. What say you? > > Hey guys, > Ever had a BJ8 brake booster fail so it locks your brakes on? > My brake booster (BJ8 std type) effectively pushed the pedal high, and > locked > all the brakes on. Solid > Pushing hard on the pedal released the brakes, but next time you touched > them, > same thing. 4 wheels locked solid. > This isn't a diagnosis question. I had replaced calipers, hoses, rebuilt > wheel > cylinders, rebuilt the brake master cyl, replaced the reseviour with a new > one, and fitted a rebuilt BJ8 Booster. fitted new linings and shoes. And a > New > one way valve in the booster vacuum line. > Thats when the problem started... > So I re rebuilt master cylinder. Twice. Checked and double checked everyting > Checked the booster one way valve. > Glimmer of hope was disconnecting the "new" booster. Problem vanished - but > no > booster. > Today I put my old booster back on. Std BJ8, rebuilt 14 years ago. Brakes > are > now perfect again. > This preventative maintenance has hairs all over it.... > So the question is.... What's wrong with my newly rebuilt BJ8 booster that > it > doesn't release the vacuum???? > Ideas? From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed May 23 04:51:21 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 20:51:21 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake booster fail locks brakes on In-Reply-To: References: <6D097572-4BC5-42BB-8A01-6D11910D4D55@gmail.com> <02010D032FA8414DA4F235048DBA1779@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <42B7ECABB1ED429BAC31D406C9D6E83A@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Christopher Sounds like a deal to me. Thanks Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dimmock [mailto:austin.healey at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 8:39 PM To: Patrick and Caroline Quinn Cc: Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake booster fail locks brakes on Thanks Alan, I'll investigate along those lines. So frustrating!!! Hey Patrick, I'll write you an article. But My brake fluid dripping hands were not in the mood for a camera.... I can include a pic of my BJ8 stopped, which may infer the brakes were locked on. I can also include a pic of the offending brake booster, which I didn't assault with a large hammer, because I want to fix it. Deal? ;-) Best Chris On 23/05/2012, at 8:30 PM, "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" wrote: > G'day Christopher > > Yes had the same experience with a Mk2 Jaguar that used to be our everyday > car. Yes it locked solid on Pennant Hills Road in the middle of peak hour. I > was later told that that the booster was the same as a BJ8. I didn't know of > course as you would realise I'm from the era when real Austin-Healeys didn't > have brake boosters. ;) > > Took it to a few so-called Jaguar experts, but most were just that - > 'sperts'. In the end took it to Better Brakes in Parramatta who said that it > was a dooverhicky inside that wasn't letting the fluid return. I took that > as technical talk for valve. Anyway first of all they actually found the > booster in the car which is tucked away upside down and underneath the right > hand side innerguard and then rebuilt it. > > Worked like a charm after that. > > Now Christopher as you have experienced a spanner wielding moment with your > Austin-Healey it seems to me that you should have taken photos of what you > have done and we can prepare an article for Flat Clat. What say you? > > Hey guys, > Ever had a BJ8 brake booster fail so it locks your brakes on? > My brake booster (BJ8 std type) effectively pushed the pedal high, and > locked > all the brakes on. Solid > Pushing hard on the pedal released the brakes, but next time you touched > them, > same thing. 4 wheels locked solid. > This isn't a diagnosis question. I had replaced calipers, hoses, rebuilt > wheel > cylinders, rebuilt the brake master cyl, replaced the reseviour with a new > one, and fitted a rebuilt BJ8 Booster. fitted new linings and shoes. And a > New > one way valve in the booster vacuum line. > Thats when the problem started... > So I re rebuilt master cylinder. Twice. Checked and double checked everyting > Checked the booster one way valve. > Glimmer of hope was disconnecting the "new" booster. Problem vanished - but > no > booster. > Today I put my old booster back on. Std BJ8, rebuilt 14 years ago. Brakes > are > now perfect again. > This preventative maintenance has hairs all over it.... > So the question is.... What's wrong with my newly rebuilt BJ8 booster that > it > doesn't release the vacuum???? > Ideas? From bspidell at comcast.net Wed May 23 07:31:52 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 06:31:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake booster fail locks brakes on In-Reply-To: <20120523102829.09FD02D04C7@autox.team.net> References: <6D097572-4BC5-42BB-8A01-6D11910D4D55@gmail.com> <20120523102829.09FD02D04C7@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4FBCE6C8.90808@comcast.net> Haven't experienced this particular Healey joy (yet), but Alan's diagnosis sounds very likely. In addition, the large vacuum cylinder is lined with a magical 'dry lubricant.' Along with a too large/firm/stubborn seal, this lubricant may be eroded enough to contribute to the problem, and should be restored. I used one of these products (most likely, the 28A): http://www.sandstromproducts.com/air-dry.html Unfortunately, this stuff is beau coup expensive, and has hazmat shipping requirements. One can would probably do 20 boosters, and it expires after a couple years. I don't know if there's a definitive way to tell if the lubricant should be renewed, but if the booster has over 100K miles it may need it. Bob On 5/23/2012 3:28 AM, healey.nut at gmail.com wrote: > Chris - > > The rubber seal used under the leather seal of the vaccum piston needs to be cut in about half. The leather seal only needs a slight amount of pressure from the rubber to work properly. > > Many kits use a rubber seal that's either too firm or too big, and it causes the piston and the can to lock shut. > > Very common problem for years. > > Hope that helps. > > Alan > > Sent from my BlackBerry. smartphone > www.blackberry.com > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From steveg at abrazosdata.com Wed May 23 08:38:19 2012 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 06:38:19 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Chasing_Classic_Cars_-_heads_up?= Message-ID: <20120523143819.22556.qmail@hoster902.com> Caught a glimpse of a commercial last night on Velocity Channel saying Wayne was going to sell a Healey next week on Chasing Classic Cars. -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA BN6 From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed May 23 11:24:46 2012 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 10:24:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake booster fail locks brakes on In-Reply-To: <6D097572-4BC5-42BB-8A01-6D11910D4D55@gmail.com> References: <6D097572-4BC5-42BB-8A01-6D11910D4D55@gmail.com> Message-ID: Large vacuum piston is sticking in the tank. This is a common problem when rebuilding the original style servos. The rubber seal the goes under the leather seal is installed with the flat side in towards the piston. Also make sure the inside of the vacuum tank is very clean and then you can spray it with a dry lube. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On May 23, 2012, at 3:18 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > Hey guys, > Ever had a BJ8 brake booster fail so it locks your brakes on? > My brake booster (BJ8 std type) effectively pushed the pedal high, > and locked > all the brakes on. Solid > Pushing hard on the pedal released the brakes, but next time you > touched them, > same thing. 4 wheels locked solid. > This isn't a diagnosis question. I had replaced calipers, hoses, > rebuilt wheel > cylinders, rebuilt the brake master cyl, replaced the reseviour > with a new > one, and fitted a rebuilt BJ8 Booster. fitted new linings and > shoes. And a New > one way valve in the booster vacuum line. > Thats when the problem started... > So I re rebuilt master cylinder. Twice. Checked and double checked > everyting > Checked the booster one way valve. > Glimmer of hope was disconnecting the "new" booster. Problem > vanished - but no > booster. > Today I put my old booster back on. Std BJ8, rebuilt 14 years ago. > Brakes are > now perfect again. > This preventative maintenance has hairs all over it.... > So the question is.... What's wrong with my newly rebuilt BJ8 > booster that it > doesn't release the vacuum???? > Ideas? Your experiences?? > Thanks in advance. > Best > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed May 23 11:39:28 2012 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 10:39:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 10 slowest car of all time Message-ID: http://autos.yahoo.com/news/the-ten-slowest-sports-cars-of-all-time.html -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed May 23 22:17:34 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:17:34 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 10 slowest car of all time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: that's a fun list, although I'm sure the Bond Minicar should be on there, although it only has three wheels. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:39 AM, I Erbs wrote: > http://autos.yahoo.com/news/the-ten-slowest-sports-cars-of-all-time.html > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From eyera3000 at gmail.com Wed May 23 22:19:20 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 21:19:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 10 slowest car of all time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It is has a motorcycle engine and three wheels, so not sure it counts.... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR On May 23, 2012 9:17 PM, "Alan Seigrist" wrote: > that's a fun list, although I'm sure the Bond Minicar should be on > there, although it only has three wheels. > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:39 AM, I Erbs wrote: > > http://autos.yahoo.com/news/the-ten-slowest-sports-cars-of-all-time.html > > > > -- > > Ira Erbs > > IT CONSULTANT > > Portland, OR > > > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > > thinking we used when we created them. > > -Albert Einstein > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed May 23 22:36:49 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:36:49 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] 10 slowest car of all time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: G'day So does a Morgan 3 wheeler fitted with a JAP V twin and they are quick and are seen as sports cars. As are the more modern Moto Guzzi Trike. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2012 2:19 PM To: Alan Seigrist Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] 10 slowest car of all time It is has a motorcycle engine and three wheels, so not sure it counts.... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR On May 23, 2012 9:17 PM, "Alan Seigrist" wrote: > that's a fun list, although I'm sure the Bond Minicar should be on > there, although it only has three wheels. > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:39 AM, I Erbs wrote: > > http://autos.yahoo.com/news/the-ten-slowest-sports-cars-of-all-time.html > > > > -- > > Ira Erbs > > IT CONSULTANT > > Portland, OR > > > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > > thinking we used when we created them. > > -Albert Einstein > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu May 24 02:46:56 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 09:46:56 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 10 slowest car of all time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Ferrari Mondial was junk. You can buy them for under 20K Sad to see the Midget in all it's caked on make up trying to look young. Orange paint, huge decals and hideous bumpers thanks to you guys over the other side of the pond! The Fiero style looks pretty good from the angle in the photo, How can you only get 150bhp from a 5.0 litre V8!!! Derek On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > G'day > > So does a Morgan 3 wheeler fitted with a JAP V twin and they are quick and > are seen as sports cars. As are the more modern Moto Guzzi Trike. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2012 2:19 PM > To: Alan Seigrist > Cc: Ahealey help > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 10 slowest car of all time > > It is has a motorcycle engine and three wheels, so not sure it counts.... > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > On May 23, 2012 9:17 PM, "Alan Seigrist" wrote: > > > that's a fun list, although I'm sure the Bond Minicar should be on > > there, although it only has three wheels. > > > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:39 AM, I Erbs wrote: > > > > http://autos.yahoo.com/news/the-ten-slowest-sports-cars-of-all-time.html > > > > > > -- > > > Ira Erbs > > > IT CONSULTANT > > > Portland, OR > > > > > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > > > thinking we used when we created them. > > > -Albert Einstein > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From hstandfa at iinet.net.au Thu May 24 05:18:17 2012 From: hstandfa at iinet.net.au (Noel and Helen standfast) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 21:18:17 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Fitting BN1 front hub studs Message-ID: <4FBE18F9.8060702@iinet.net.au> Hi listers I am about to fit new studs to my new front hubs, I notice the old studs have a V indentation to peen them over, is this necessary and if so how is it done, or can I just use locktite? thanks Noel S, AHOC Qld From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu May 24 05:23:06 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (healey.nut at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 11:23:06 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Fitting BN1 front hub studs Message-ID: Blue Loctite is best, actually. ------Original Message------ From: Noel and Helen standfast Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net To: Healeys list Subject: [Healeys] Fitting BN1 front hub studs Sent: May 24, 2012 19:18 Hi listers I am about to fit new studs to my new front hubs, I notice the old studs have a V indentation to peen them over, is this necessary and if so how is it done, or can I just use locktite? thanks Noel S, AHOC Qld _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com Sent from my BlackBerry. smartphone www.blackberry.com From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 24 08:44:44 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 09:44:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 10 slowest car of all time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FBE495C.2010304@justbrits.com> Huh ?? I did not see any car so equipped, Derek !?! On 5/24/2012 3:46 AM, Derek Job wrote: > How can you only get 150bhp from a 5.0 litre V8!!! From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Thu May 24 08:47:56 2012 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 07:47:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Smith Brody In-Reply-To: <1337711553.41007.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1337711553.41007.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00cd01cd39bc$34ffb2e0$9eff18a0$@com> I understand Smitty is driving back east (FL, GA) visiting friends. Bruce Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Caccavo Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:33 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Smith Brody Gary, I saw his Panoz up on his lift as I drove by his shop a week or so ago. Assumed he was working on it as it was outside. I'll try to swing by this week or weekend to see if he is around, but if he is not answering the phone he is probably on the road:) Dean Subject: [Healeys] Smith Brody Message-ID: <8CF058C3A85EAF0-9A0-29360 at webmail-m068.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Has anyone had any contact with Smith Brody in the last month or so? We've called both of his telephone numbers but haven't gotten any response. Thanks. Gary Anderson $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeybruce at roadrunner.com From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Thu May 24 21:06:19 2012 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 20:06:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 10 slowest car of all time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1DD7C8ECEDAD4628825830C86550E722@JerryPC> We had one of the 3 wheeler MOrgans with a JAP V Twin at our UBSCC car show last weekend. The guy that owned it said it would do 65 miles per hour, but don't turn at that speed. That would be fun to drive. The car was in beautiful shape. I wonder what they are worth? Jerry From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Thu May 24 09:09:27 2012 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 08:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Austin Devons 4/S Message-ID: <1337872167.43755.BPMail_high_carrier@web130206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 3 1950 Austin Devon package for sale NY Hudson Valley z3xtq-2999079901 at sale.craigslist.org nfi Best JK From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Thu May 24 09:18:00 2012 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 08:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Morgan trike Message-ID: <1337872680.21468.BPMail_high_carrier@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Not sure that many are aware that Morgan is now building a very retro trike w/HD mc engine. Best JK ------------------------------ On Thu, May 24, 2012 11:06 PM EDT Jerry Costanzo wrote: >We had one of the 3 wheeler MOrgans with a JAP V Twin at our UBSCC car show last weekend. The guy that owned it said it would do 65 miles per hour, but don't turn at that speed. That would be fun to drive. >The car was in beautiful shape. I wonder what they are worth? > >Jerry _______________________________________________ From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Thu May 24 09:36:01 2012 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 08:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Austin Devons 4/S oops Message-ID: <1337873761.26605.BPMail_high_carrier@web130202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> See below for correct url ------------------------------ On Thu, May 24, 2012 11:09 AM EDT Jackson Krall wrote: >3 1950 Austin Devon package for sale NY Hudson Valley >nfi > >Best > http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/2999079901.html From edriver at sasktel.net Thu May 24 11:11:22 2012 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E. A. Driver) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 11:11:22 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Morgan trike In-Reply-To: <1337872680.21468.BPMail_high_carrier@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1337872680.21468.BPMail_high_carrier@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FBE6BBA.20900@sasktel.net> /local/mailman/lynxXXXXLKJ5VJ: Permission denied From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu May 24 11:16:46 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 10:16:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Morgan trike In-Reply-To: <4FBE6BBA.20900@sasktel.net> References: <1337872680.21468.BPMail_high_carrier@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4FBE6BBA.20900@sasktel.net> Message-ID: Hi All, I saw the Morgan Trike at the New York Auto Show. Nice looking car, but I would prefer an original. Curt From eandy01 at msn.com Thu May 24 15:19:23 2012 From: eandy01 at msn.com (EDWARD ANDERSON) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 21:19:23 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] rear disk brake conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If anyone bought the turned down BMW rotors and mounting plates from the lister/ attorney in Portland, Ore, would you please contact my off list? I would like to hear you experience of installing. Thanks Ed Anderson From ruvino at ripnet.com Sat May 26 08:54:45 2012 From: ruvino at ripnet.com (Dr. C. Rubino) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 10:54:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] gap Message-ID: <5010B671F63240F5A0720EA5103752B2@HPp6520f> What size should the gap be between the fast idling screw and the throttle shaft lever? From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat May 26 09:15:11 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (healey.nut at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 15:15:11 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] gap Message-ID: There's no real set here because it depends on how the throttle shaft has been drilled. Usually, however, I back off touching the lever by about one full turn (after slow idle fully set). ------Original Message------ From: Dr. C. Rubino Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] gap Sent: May 26, 2012 22:54 What size should the gap be between the fast idling screw and the throttle shaft lever? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com Sent from my BlackBerry. smartphone www.blackberry.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat May 26 10:11:43 2012 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 12:11:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 6 volt Optima Batteries Message-ID: Hey all! More on the Optima 6v batteries. Much to my surprise; they almost kind of fit in the existing battery trays. If I cut off the battery mounting tabs they would drop right in on the diagonal. Then I could just fabricate a top bracket and use the existing rods that held down the original type batteries. Males tend to like symmetry, but I think I have to change the passenger side one around to avoid having the battery cables cross over the ( future ) battery hold down. www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/Opt6v_1.jpg www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/Opt6v_2.jpg www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/Opt6v_3.jpg Instead of cutting the battery mounting tabs, I could cut a slot or slots in the trays. I believe the trays are cheaper to replace than the batteries and my trays are a touch corroded. Suggestions for the next step(s)? Yes, I do have a replacement negative cable. :) TIA! Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sat May 26 13:17:55 2012 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 11:17:55 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Gap?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120526191755.25020.qmail@hoster902.com> The smaller the gap the quicker and better the hand-throttle operates when you pull the choke. -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA BN6 From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat May 26 13:43:41 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 12:43:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Starter motor question Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120526124054.0201ccb0@pop.att.yahoo.com> When I took apart the starter motor to clean and rebuild it there were two bands on the upper part of the armature; the part at the opposite end from the commuter. One band appears to be fiber and was broken. The other band is metallic but not magnetic; probably aluminum. Does anyone know what the purpose of these bands are? I know; another difficult questions. Extra points will be awarded to the person or persons that answer this question. John '62 BT7 From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat May 26 15:32:09 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 14:32:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Starter motor question In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120526124054.0201ccb0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120526143101.020b3ed8@pop.att.yahoo.com> /local/mailman/lynxXXXXga4vAC: Permission denied From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sat May 26 17:00:10 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 17:00:10 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] blatant advertisement Message-ID: <0DAF03435D52461FA9EA9AD9D1E08B4C@oscar> I lost my mind a few months back and decided to restore a clapped out forlorn Midget (sic) 1275 Sprite Now I'd like to find it a new home or sell my 100 and keep this . I really don't want or need multiple classic cars, after all I get to drive other folks cars on a daily basis.. Grace was interesting, BTW. Anyway, here's the story of "Widget" the Midget http://porterbikes.com/blog/austin-healey/losing-my-mind-1161 As of today there is $5000 in new stuff with tires and tubes being the last big dollar items this next week. If you or a friend might have any interest give me a call or email.. my phone # is shown in my contact info below.. DaveP frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world From healeyguy at bredband.net Sat May 26 17:54:03 2012 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 01:54:03 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] gap In-Reply-To: <20120526151740.A87D22D044A@autox.team.net> References: <20120526151740.A87D22D044A@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4FC16D1B.4060205@bredband.net> Hi I'd say it depends on how much you want the engine to rev when you enrichen the carburettors, e.g. use the choke. Per in Sweden healey.nut at gmail.com skrev 2012-05-26 17:15: > There's no real set here because it depends on how the throttle shaft has been drilled. Usually, however, I back off touching the lever by about one full turn (after slow idle fully set). > > ------Original Message------ > From: Dr. C. Rubino > Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > To: healeylist > Subject: [Healeys] gap > Sent: May 26, 2012 22:54 > > What size should the gap be between the fast idling screw and the throttle > shaft lever? From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sat May 26 18:06:37 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 18:06:37 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] gap In-Reply-To: <4FC16D1B.4060205@bredband.net> References: <20120526151740.A87D22D044A@autox.team.net> <4FC16D1B.4060205@bredband.net> Message-ID: <6B4107B4BA094B53A190060180542BA5@oscar> It depends on which carbs you have and then it depends on how much variation is required to synchronize the air flow. It's not as simple as merely setting the idle speed. dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Per Schoerner Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:54 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] gap Hi I'd say it depends on how much you want the engine to rev when you enrichen the carburettors, e.g. use the choke. Per in Sweden From rnbmail at yahoo.com Sun May 27 01:15:38 2012 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 00:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Opinions please >> Message-ID: <1338102938.37303.YahooMailClassic@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Listers....Saw this recently in my area ... Does anyone have experience with this problem and what happened and what was your conclusion??? PROBLEM: Motor with under 5K miles since full rebuild - never over rev'd. One pushrod jumped out from rocker ball - expected nasty noises... Tappet adjustment nut was tight after jump. Pushrod slightly bent - as expected, but not enough to permit jump. No follower damage. No valve or piston damage. Compression maintained. SOLUTION: Replaced pushrod and tappet screw. Motor runs just fine. What happened and why????????? Opinions please .............. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun May 27 01:20:50 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (healey.nut at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 07:20:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Opinions please >> In-Reply-To: <1338102938.37303.YahooMailClassic@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1338102938.37303.YahooMailClassic@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If you used bronze valve guides in you rebuild, the valve can get stuck when hot (in this case valve got stuck in closed position). That's why I only used old boring iron guides! Sent from my BlackBerry. smartphone www.blackberry.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert Blair Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sun, 27 May 2012 00:15:38 To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Opinions please >> Listers....Saw this recently in my area ... Does anyone have experience with this problem and what happened and what was your conclusion??? PROBLEM: Motor with under 5K miles since full rebuild - never over rev'd. One pushrod jumped out from rocker ball - expected nasty noises... Tappet adjustment nut was tight after jump. Pushrod slightly bent - as expected, but not enough to permit jump. No follower damage. No valve or piston damage. Compression maintained. SOLUTION: Replaced pushrod and tappet screw. Motor runs just fine. What happened and why????????? Opinions please .............. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Sun May 27 01:22:21 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 09:22:21 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Opinions please >> In-Reply-To: <1338102938.37303.YahooMailClassic@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1338102938.37303.YahooMailClassic@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Can only assume valve got stuck in valve guide. Happens when clearance is not right after rebuild or bronze guides are used. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Robert Blair Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Mai 2012 09:16 An: Healey List Betreff: [Healeys] Opinions please >> Listers....Saw this recently in my area ... Does anyone have experience with this problem and what happened and what was your conclusion??? PROBLEM: Motor with under 5K miles since full rebuild - never over rev'd. One pushrod jumped out from rocker ball - expected nasty noises... Tappet adjustment nut was tight after jump. Pushrod slightly bent - as expected, but not enough to permit jump. No follower damage. No valve or piston damage. Compression maintained. SOLUTION: Replaced pushrod and tappet screw. Motor runs just fine. What happened and why????????? Opinions please .............. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun May 27 05:27:09 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 07:27:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Opinions please >> In-Reply-To: <1338102938.37303.YahooMailClassic@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1338102938.37303.YahooMailClassic@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Robert, The mechanics of the problems with bronze guides in cast iron heads is explained in my blog post http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=384 Probably worth reading. -- Michael Salter *I have BJ8 water pump kits!!* On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Robert Blair wrote: > Listers....Saw this recently in my area ... > Does anyone have experience with this problem and what happened and what > was > your conclusion??? > > PROBLEM: > Motor with under 5K miles since full rebuild - never over rev'd. > One pushrod jumped out from rocker ball - expected nasty noises... > Tappet adjustment nut was tight after jump. > Pushrod slightly bent - as expected, but not enough to permit jump. > No follower damage. > No valve or piston damage. > Compression maintained. > > SOLUTION: > Replaced pushrod and tappet screw. > Motor runs just fine. > > What happened and why????????? > Opinions please .............. > > Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sun May 27 05:53:22 2012 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 07:53:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] John and Grace Message-ID: <4FC215B2.2030301@earthlink.net> Listers, I don't remember if this had been mentioned before, or not. There's now a web page on ebay for Drive Away Cancer. http://cc.ebay.com/drive-away-cancer/ Cheers, Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php From jwhlyadv at aol.com Sun May 27 06:15:00 2012 From: jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jim Werner) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 08:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] John and Grace In-Reply-To: <4FC215B2.2030301@earthlink.net> References: <4FC215B2.2030301@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8CF0A1978C7200B-C04-1A71E@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> John and Grace wil be in Louisville for Conclave. Ben Moore has produced a promotional video that can be seen at http://youtu.be/L1jsMfiGLxw Jim Werner Louisville, KY -----Original Message----- From: Bob Haskell To: Forum Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 7:52 am Subject: [Healeys] John and Grace Listers, I don't remember if this had been mentioned before, or not. There's now web page on ebay for Drive Away Cancer. http://cc.ebay.com/drive-away-cancer/ Cheers, Bob Haskell HCA 3000 Mk I registrar ttp://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwhlyadv at aol.com From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sun May 27 06:29:08 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 06:29:08 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Opinions please >> In-Reply-To: References: <1338102938.37303.YahooMailClassic@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The 2 previous answers are the general rule, the other is owners who continue to insist on adding a lead additive to their gasoline. Short answer is DON'T. dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world Can only assume valve got stuck in valve guide. Happens when clearance is not right after rebuild or bronze guides are used. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany \ Listers....Saw this recently in my area ... Does anyone have experience with this problem and what happened and what was your conclusion??? PROBLEM: Motor with under 5K miles since full rebuild - never over rev'd. One pushrod jumped out from rocker ball - expected nasty noises... Tappet adjustment nut was tight after jump. Pushrod slightly bent - as expected, but not enough to permit jump. No follower damage. No valve or piston damage. Compression maintained. SOLUTION: Replaced pushrod and tappet screw. Motor runs just fine. What happened and why????????? Opinions please .............. From bspidell at comcast.net Sun May 27 07:23:03 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge Message-ID: <771613148.884585.1338124983509.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> My temp gauge has lost calibration; it indicates 160deg when it should read 180 (I tried a different thermostat with no change). Otherwise, it seems to be working (but reading 20deg low). Can the indicator needle be pulled (carefully) off and (re) set to give correct temperature? TIA, Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sun May 27 07:58:23 2012 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 09:58:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Opinions please >> In-Reply-To: References: <1338102938.37303.YahooMailClassic@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: All-- Having been a willing captive of Michael's when we did the 2008 and 2009 *Targa Newfoundland* rallies I have had this explained to me in person, and it's difficult to win an argument with Michael. OTOH the fellow who does the heads on my race cars feels that bronze guides offer some advantages, at least for racing applications. He simply allows for the different coefficients with a couple of extra thousands of clearance and I have not yet stuck a valve with bronze guides...(fingers crossed). Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > Hi Robert, > The mechanics of the problems with bronze guides in cast iron heads is > explained in my blog post > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=384 > Probably worth reading. > > -- > Michael Salter > > *I have BJ8 water pump kits!!* > > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Robert Blair wrote: > > > Listers....Saw this recently in my area ... > > Does anyone have experience with this problem and what happened and what > > was > > your conclusion??? > > > > PROBLEM: > > Motor with under 5K miles since full rebuild - never over rev'd. > > One pushrod jumped out from rocker ball - expected nasty noises... > > Tappet adjustment nut was tight after jump. > > Pushrod slightly bent - as expected, but not enough to permit jump. > > No follower damage. > > No valve or piston damage. > > Compression maintained. > > > > SOLUTION: > > Replaced pushrod and tappet screw. > > Motor runs just fine. > > > > What happened and why????????? > > Opinions please .............. > > > > Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sun May 27 08:22:18 2012 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 07:22:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge In-Reply-To: <771613148.884585.1338124983509.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <771613148.884585.1338124983509.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: You should check the temp with an infrared gun (Harbor Freight for 30 or so bucks). Aim at the thermostat housing. Then if you still feel it is off, remove the sensor and see if there is crud around it. I cannot think of anything that would cause the needle to have moved. If you don't want to get an infrared, I can bring one at the next Healey event we both attend. Let me know where you are headed and I'll let you know if I'm going. Rich Kahn So. Lake Tahoe > Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:23:03 +0000 > From: bspidell at comcast.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge > > My temp gauge has lost calibration; it indicates 160deg when it should read 180 (I tried a different thermostat with no change). Otherwise, it seems to be working (but reading 20deg low). > > Can the indicator needle be pulled (carefully) off and (re) set to give correct temperature? > > TIA, > Bob > > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun May 27 08:56:50 2012 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 10:56:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge In-Reply-To: <771613148.884585.1338124983509.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <771613148.884585.1338124983509.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <001f01cd3c18$f2a28030$d7e78090$@rr.com> Bob, I'm assuming you are referring to your BJ8. The needle can be pulled off and reset wherever you want it, but there are two real calibration points as indicated by two small dots on the face of the gauge between 120 - 160 and at about 212. Although I have no proof, I believe the factory used these calibration points with specific input voltages in order to make the gauge reasonably accurate over its full range. If you pull off the needle and put it on 180 (if you know for sure the sensor is sensing 180), then the gauge might be inaccurate everywhere else. The best way to check calibration, although a real pain, is to remove the gauge from the dash and check the gauge reading while the sensor is in boiling water at sea level. I did this with my gauge and found it reading about 10 deg. high. After pulling the needle off and repositioning it between the two dots at 212, the gauge was accurate enough for me through its range. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:23 AM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge My temp gauge has lost calibration; it indicates 160deg when it should read 180 (I tried a different thermostat with no change). Otherwise, it seems to be working (but reading 20deg low). Can the indicator needle be pulled (carefully) off and (re) set to give correct temperature? TIA, Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From bspidell at comcast.net Sun May 27 09:04:15 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 15:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <73170433.886278.1338131055358.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Agreed, and thanks for the offer. At home, I would check against a thermometer; however, I'm on the road (Squamish, Canada) and need to improvise. I put a new thermostat in--in a motel parking lot--and get exactly the same reading (160 with two 180deg thermostats) so at this point I'm convinced the gauge is reading 20deg low. Before I left, I pulled the gauge out a half-inch or so to replace the O-ring. I think I might have stretched or bent something, but IIRC the gauge was reading low before. Also, the gauge indicates 192deg when the engine is turned off, and it used to indicate 212deg exactly. The speedometers are largely calibrated by moving the needle, might try same on the temp gauge. Off topic, but I bought a set of wiper blades from Moss and installed before I left knowing we'd likely get rain (we did). Unfortunately, the blades drag so badly the wiper motor couldn't move them. Installed some old ones and motor works fine (the Moss blades--the rubber part--are about a half-inch wide and don't seem appropriate). Anybody else experience this phenomenon? Having a hard time finding replacement blades; thinking of trying 'Trico Classic,' but not sure if they'll fit the wiper arm (which, FWIW, appears to be a 5mm). Got an Anco brand 10" blade--unfortunately the store only had one--and it works great (with an adapter for the arm) but it's black! Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- You should check the temp with an infrared gun (Harbor Freight for 30 or so bucks). Aim at the thermostat housing. Then if you still feel it is off, remove the sensor and see if there is crud around it. I cannot think of anything that would cause the needle to have moved. If you don't want to get an infrared, I can bring one at the next Healey event we both attend. Let me know where you are headed and I'll let you know if I'm going. Rich Kahn So. Lake Tahoe > My temp gauge has lost calibration; it indicates 160deg when it should read 180 (I tried a different thermostat with no change). Otherwise, it seems to be working (but reading 20deg low). > > Can the indicator needle be pulled (carefully) off and (re) set to give correct temperature? From bspidell at comcast.net Sun May 27 09:08:14 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 15:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge In-Reply-To: <001f01cd3c18$f2a28030$d7e78090$@rr.com> Message-ID: <634420016.886334.1338131294180.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> re: " I believe the factory used these calibration points with specific input voltages in order to make the gauge reasonably accurate over its full range" AFAIK, the gauge is entirely 'mechanical,' driven by expanding ether moving a Bourdon tube. Thanks for the tip on the needle, I think if I can get 180 when running stable I'd be happy. I know the speedos have a 'calibration' point--a small white dot at about (negative) 5MPH--but I don't see any dots on the temp gauge. Mine used to read 212 exactly when I shut the engine down, so it was probably accurate before. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- Bob, I'm assuming you are referring to your BJ8. The needle can be pulled off and reset wherever you want it, but there are two real calibration points as indicated by two small dots on the face of the gauge between 120 - 160 and at about 212. Although I have no proof, I believe the factory used these calibration points with specific input voltages in order to make the gauge reasonably accurate over its full range. If you pull off the needle and put it on 180 (if you know for sure the sensor is sensing 180), then the gauge might be inaccurate everywhere else. The best way to check calibration, although a real pain, is to remove the gauge from the dash and check the gauge reading while the sensor is in boiling water at sea level. I did this with my gauge and found it reading about 10 deg. high. After pulling the needle off and repositioning it between the two dots at 212, the gauge was accurate enough for me through its range. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun May 27 09:53:09 2012 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 11:53:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20120527115309.PXWI8.79686.root@pamxwww08-z01> Could be the sensor itself--the original sensor on my E-Type finally failed and now I have gone thru 2 aftermarket ones that did not send the correct temp reading to the gauge. Using an infrared gun, when the indicated temp on the guage was slightly less than 110C, the actual temp was about 84C. I'm still truing to find on that works properly. tom ---- Richard Kahn wrote: ============= You should check the temp with an infrared gun (Harbor Freight for 30 or so bucks). Aim at the thermostat housing. Then if you still feel it is off, From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun May 27 10:06:01 2012 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 12:06:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge In-Reply-To: <634420016.886334.1338131294180.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <001f01cd3c18$f2a28030$d7e78090$@rr.com> <634420016.886334.1338131294180.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <002e01cd3c22$9cc679a0$d6536ce0$@rr.com> Bob, I guess I had my brain in neutral when I said bvoltagesb. O.K., input bpressuresb or whatever signal the factory used to calibrate them. The Bourdon tube drives a mechanical movement for the needle, and it must have some calibration adjustment. It has been a long time since I had a temp gauge opened up, but most Smiths gauges have an internal way to adjust the sensitivity of their response if you know which inputs to use. 212 is the normal position of the needle when the engine is shut down hot, as I have observed on many BJ8s. My temp gauge has both sets of white dots. The oil pressure side of the gauge, interestingly, has no dots unless the black dot I see on the white 60 psi mark is a real dot. The fuel gauge has single white dots near B<, B=, and B>. If your concern is just to get a 180 reading while youbre on your road trip, then why not just make the mental correction? What really matters is when it changes from its normal steady state, mostly when it suddenly starts reading higher than normal so you can check for actual overheating. I think I read somewhere a comment by Geoff Healey that it was a mistake to put numbers on the temp gauge. My MG Midget has only C (old), N (ormal), and H (ot). Have fun on your trip! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From: Bob Spidell [mailto:bspidell at comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 11:08 AM To: BJ8 Healeys Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temp Gauge re: " I believe the factory used these calibration points with specific input voltages in order to make the gauge reasonably accurate over its full range" AFAIK, the gauge is entirely 'mechanical,' driven by expanding ether moving a Bourdon tube. Thanks for the tip on the needle, I think if I can get 180 when running stable I'd be happy. I know the speedos have a 'calibration' point--a small white dot at about (negative) 5MPH--but I don't see any dots on the temp gauge. Mine used to read 212 exactly when I shut the engine down, so it was probably accurate before. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From jwhlyadv at aol.com Sun May 27 10:25:16 2012 From: jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jim Werner) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 12:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge In-Reply-To: References: <771613148.884585.1338124983509.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CF0A3C6F8EBCA0-1664-54673@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> I had the same problem on my BJ8 and it got progressively worse. I found that the capillary tube was shorting against the Overdrive relay and basically welding the tube shut. Jim Werner Louisville, KY -----Original Message----- From: Richard Kahn To: bspidell ; healeys Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 10:26 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temp Gauge You should check the temp with an infrared gun (Harbor Freight for 30 or so ucks). Aim at the thermostat housing. Then if you still feel it is off, emove the sensor and see if there is crud around it. I cannot think of nything that would cause the needle to have moved. If you don't want to get n infrared, I can bring one at the next Healey event we both attend. Let me now where you are headed and I'll let you know if I'm going. ich Kahn o. Lake Tahoe > Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:23:03 +0000 From: bspidell at comcast.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge My temp gauge has lost calibration; it indicates 160deg when it should read 80 (I tried a different thermostat with no change). Otherwise, it seems to be orking (but reading 20deg low). Can the indicator needle be pulled (carefully) off and (re) set to give orrect temperature? TIA, Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwhlyadv at aol.com From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun May 27 10:48:59 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 09:48:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Passing through Portland,OR? Message-ID: If you are passing though Portland, let me know if you need a pitstip, help or want to meet up for a quick howdy. I live just south of downtown and a mile form I- 5. Wish I could make it to Randevous.... Ira Erbs From MBran89793 at aol.com Sun May 27 11:50:19 2012 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge Message-ID: FWIW There is a little rubber strap that is used to secure the capillary tube to the breather pipe. This should prevent shorting of the capillary tube against the O/D relay, This may have occurred on occasion to others as well for failing to replace a little $2 item that really does serve a protective purpose. (A zip tie may work as a temporary fix.) OEM part number is ACH 8979. Marion Brantley Tampa Bay AHC In a message dated 5/27/2012 12:25:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jwhlyadv at aol.com writes: I had the same problem on my BJ8 and it got progressively worse. I found that the capillary tube was shorting against the Overdrive relay and basically welding the tube shut. Jim Werner Louisville, KY -----Original Message----- From: Richard Kahn To: bspidell ; healeys Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 10:26 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temp Gauge You should check the temp with an infrared gun (Harbor Freight for 30 or so ucks). Aim at the thermostat housing. Then if you still feel it is off, emove the sensor and see if there is crud around it. I cannot think of nything that would cause the needle to have moved. If you don't want to get n infrared, I can bring one at the next Healey event we both attend. Let me now where you are headed and I'll let you know if I'm going. ich Kahn o. Lake Tahoe > Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:23:03 +0000 From: bspidell at comcast.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Temp Gauge My temp gauge has lost calibration; it indicates 160deg when it should read 80 (I tried a different thermostat with no change). Otherwise, it seems to be orking (but reading 20deg low). Can the indicator needle be pulled (carefully) off and (re) set to give orrect temperature? TIA, Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwhlyadv at aol.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mbran89793 at aol.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun May 27 12:56:03 2012 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 20:56:03 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Opinions please >> In-Reply-To: <1338102938.37303.YahooMailClassic@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1338102938.37303.YahooMailClassic@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FC278C3.6000802@chello.nl> Possibly a stuck valve in the open position so the push rod could become dislodged. When the engine cooled or got enough lubrication after a while from starting up it came unstuck. Had the engine been standing inoperative for a while? Kees Oudesluijs Op 27-5-2012 9:15, Robert Blair schreef: > Listers....Saw this recently in my area ... > Does anyone have experience with this problem and what happened and what was > your conclusion??? > > PROBLEM: > Motor with under 5K miles since full rebuild - never over rev'd. > One pushrod jumped out from rocker ball - expected nasty noises... > Tappet adjustment nut was tight after jump. > Pushrod slightly bent - as expected, but not enough to permit jump. > No follower damage. > No valve or piston damage. > Compression maintained. > > SOLUTION: > Replaced pushrod and tappet screw. > Motor runs just fine. > > What happened and why????????? > Opinions please .............. > > Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2012.0.1913 / Virusdatabase: 2425/5023 - datum van uitgifte: 05/26/12 > > -- Kees Oudesluijs Dorpsstraat 183 2995XG Heerjansdam T: 078-677 1233 E: coudesluijs at chello.nl Technische commissie Jensen Healey en GT Het Jensen Genootschap Holland www.jensenholland.nl From ahpowered at hotmail.com Sun May 27 13:47:55 2012 From: ahpowered at hotmail.com (scott willis) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 14:47:55 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN7 Brake Caliper? Message-ID: I am trying to install a rebuilt caliper. The damn mounting bolts don't line up on this new one. These holes are a bit further apart than the original caliper off my car. Here's a photo of both. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2559358890100422800JsyaCY The one on the rotor is the new one. The one in the pan is the original off my car. Is this an original MK I caliper in the pan? Is the one on the rotor for a MK III? Thanks, Scott Willis Mashed 60 BN7 AH Club USA 59 MGA 66 E-Type FHC http://bgeuroclassics.webs.com/ BG Euro Classics Car Club President Bowling Green, KY From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Sun May 27 13:57:11 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 21:57:11 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BN7 Brake Caliper? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The one in the pan is a MkI caliper. The one on the rotor looks like one which may fit to a MKIII, but aftermarket (Ford Capri etc.) not original. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von scott willis Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Mai 2012 21:48 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] BN7 Brake Caliper? I am trying to install a rebuilt caliper. The damn mounting bolts don't line up on this new one. These holes are a bit further apart than the original caliper off my car. Here's a photo of both. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2559358890100422800JsyaCY The one on the rotor is the new one. The one in the pan is the original off my car. Is this an original MK I caliper in the pan? Is the one on the rotor for a MK III? Thanks, Scott Willis Mashed 60 BN7 AH Club USA 59 MGA 66 E-Type FHC http://bgeuroclassics.webs.com/ BG Euro Classics Car Club President Bowling Green, KY From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun May 27 13:57:44 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 12:57:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Randevous Message-ID: Howdy, I need a flywheel transported to rondevous. If you are going through Portland and can transport for me, let me know off list. Thanks From phoenix722 at comcast.net Sun May 27 15:09:02 2012 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 14:09:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN7 Brake Caliper? References: Message-ID: <156725E8766449399D3D14AC7260F926@Mike> After cars get old, the aftermarket folks start to combine there offerings, with the goal that "one size fits all". I had the problem on my Honda, which is newer (1990), with the brake calipers being just different enough to cause a problem. Mike ======================= ----- Original Message ----- From: "scott willis" To: Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 12:47 PM Subject: [Healeys] BN7 Brake Caliper? >I am trying to install a rebuilt caliper. The damn mounting bolts don't >line > up on this new one. These holes are a bit further apart than the original > caliper off my car. Here's a photo of both. > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2559358890100422800JsyaCY The one on the > rotor > is the new one. The one in the pan is the original off my car. Is this an > original MK I caliper in the pan? Is the one on the rotor for a MK III? > > Thanks, > > > > Scott Willis > Mashed 60 BN7 AH Club USA > 59 MGA > 66 E-Type FHC > > http://bgeuroclassics.webs.com/ > BG Euro Classics Car Club President > Bowling Green, KY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun May 27 15:21:34 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 14:21:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN7 Brake Caliper? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do the pads fit? Early calipers have a different shape pad. On May 27, 2012 12:47 PM, "scott willis" wrote: > I am trying to install a rebuilt caliper. The damn mounting bolts don't > line > up on this new one. These holes are a bit further apart than the original > caliper off my car. Here's a photo of both. > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2559358890100422800JsyaCY The one on the > rotor > is the new one. The one in the pan is the original off my car. Is this an > original MK I caliper in the pan? Is the one on the rotor for a MK III? > > Thanks, > > > > Scott Willis > Mashed 60 BN7 AH Club USA > 59 MGA > 66 E-Type FHC > > http://bgeuroclassics.webs.com/ > BG Euro Classics Car Club President > Bowling Green, KY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com From jeff at pellfam.com Sun May 27 16:05:39 2012 From: jeff at pellfam.com (Jeff Pelletier) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 18:05:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] hard steering Message-ID: <004801cd3c54$daf4fb20$90def160$@pellfam.com> My 100-6 steering seem very hard to maneuver lately. .. up on the lift .it seems to move easily and smoothly.. any ideas. jp From tfsbj7 at mindspring.com Sun May 27 16:18:53 2012 From: tfsbj7 at mindspring.com (Skip Saunders) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 18:18:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] hard steering In-Reply-To: <004801cd3c54$daf4fb20$90def160$@pellfam.com> References: <004801cd3c54$daf4fb20$90def160$@pellfam.com> Message-ID: <003c01cd3c56$b3b378f0$1b1a6ad0$@mindspring.com> Low tire pressure? -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Pelletier Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 6:06 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] hard steering My 100-6 steering seem very hard to maneuver lately. .. up on the lift .it seems to move easily and smoothly.. any ideas. From shop at justbrits.com Sun May 27 17:05:47 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 18:05:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] hard steering In-Reply-To: <003c01cd3c56$b3b378f0$1b1a6ad0$@mindspring.com> References: <004801cd3c54$daf4fb20$90def160$@pellfam.com> <003c01cd3c56$b3b378f0$1b1a6ad0$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <4FC2B34B.4070305@justbrits.com> My very first (1st) thought also, Skip ! ! ! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com /_* ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ*_/ On 5/27/2012 5:18 PM, Skip Saunders wrote: > Low tire pressure? From jeff at pellfam.com Sun May 27 17:16:49 2012 From: jeff at pellfam.com (Jeff Pelletier) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 19:16:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] hard steering In-Reply-To: <003c01cd3c56$b3b378f0$1b1a6ad0$@mindspring.com> References: <004801cd3c54$daf4fb20$90def160$@pellfam.com> <003c01cd3c56$b3b378f0$1b1a6ad0$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <005401cd3c5e$cc92d660$65b88320$@pellfam.com> that's what its like... but ... done that -----Original Message----- From: Skip Saunders [mailto:tfsbj7 at mindspring.com] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 6:19 PM To: jeff at pellfam.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] hard steering Low tire pressure? -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Pelletier Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 6:06 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] hard steering My 100-6 steering seem very hard to maneuver lately. .. up on the lift .it seems to move easily and smoothly.. any ideas. From michaelsalter at gmail.com Sun May 27 18:06:52 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 20:06:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] hard steering In-Reply-To: <004801cd3c54$daf4fb20$90def160$@pellfam.com> References: <004801cd3c54$daf4fb20$90def160$@pellfam.com> Message-ID: Hi Jeff, I would suggest that you check that grease is getting to the thrust bearing, at the top of the swivel axle when the upper king pin bush is being lubricated. If either upper king pin bush is installed incorrectly the grease way (groove in the inner bush surface) may direct grease away from the trust bearing rather than forcing grease into it. Over time the thrust bearing will become dry and steering effort will increase significantly. -- Michael Salter *I have BJ8 water pump kits!!* On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Jeff Pelletier wrote: > My 100-6 steering seem very hard to maneuver lately. .. > > up on the lift .it seems to move easily and smoothly.. any ideas. > > > > jp > _______________________________________________ From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Sun May 27 18:27:26 2012 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (Gilbert Gauthier) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 20:27:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] John and Grace In-Reply-To: <8CF0A1978C7200B-C04-1A71E@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> References: <4FC215B2.2030301@earthlink.net> <8CF0A1978C7200B-C04-1A71E@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <025A0A1E-817D-4B83-B3E4-C4EF39236A9F@cgocable.ca> Very nice video !!!! Enjoy the 2012 Conclave !!! Gilbert Gauthier Lucky BT7 Le 2012-05-27 ` 08:15, Jim Werner a icrit : > John and Grace wil be in Louisville for Conclave. Ben Moore has produced a > promotional video that can be seen at http://youtu.be/L1jsMfiGLxw > > > Jim Werner > Louisville, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Haskell > To: Forum > Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 7:52 am > Subject: [Healeys] John and Grace > > > Listers, > I don't remember if this had been mentioned before, or not. There's now > web page on ebay for Drive Away Cancer. > http://cc.ebay.com/drive-away-cancer/ > Cheers, > Bob Haskell > HCA 3000 Mk I registrar > ttp://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php > uggested annual donation $12.75 > rchive: http://www.team.net/archive > orums: http://www.team.net/forums > Healeys at autox.team.net > ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwhlyadv at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/comkanuk at cgocable.ca From shop at justbrits.com Sun May 27 18:30:12 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 19:30:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] hard steering In-Reply-To: <005401cd3c5e$cc92d660$65b88320$@pellfam.com> References: <004801cd3c54$daf4fb20$90def160$@pellfam.com> <003c01cd3c56$b3b378f0$1b1a6ad0$@mindspring.com> <005401cd3c5e$cc92d660$65b88320$@pellfam.com> Message-ID: <4FC2C714.4070401@justbrits.com> Hi Jeff ! ! << On 5/27/2012 6:16 PM, Jeff Pelletier wrote: that's what its like... but ... done that >> OK, then take the car out for say 5 minutes, return and inflate to 35 or 40 psi on the fronts. make SURE that rears are both the same (whatever you normally run - rears only). Go for a drive and report back to us. Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Sun May 27 19:29:21 2012 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 01:29:21 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BN7 Brake Caliper? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The one with all the lettering visible is the the type 14, early 3000 caliper. The other caliper looks like a BJ8, Mk III, caliper. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon > From: ahpowered at hotmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 14:47:55 -0500 > Subject: [Healeys] BN7 Brake Caliper? > > I am trying to install a rebuilt caliper. The damn mounting bolts don't line > up on this new one. These holes are a bit further apart than the original > caliper off my car. Here's a photo of both. > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2559358890100422800JsyaCY The one on the rotor > is the new one. The one in the pan is the original off my car. Is this an > original MK I caliper in the pan? Is the one on the rotor for a MK III? > > Thanks, > > > > Scott Willis > Mashed 60 BN7 AH Club USA > 59 MGA > 66 E-Type FHC > > http://bgeuroclassics.webs.com/ > BG Euro Classics Car Club President > Bowling Green, KY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun May 27 20:18:48 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 19:18:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Yellow healey in multnomah village Message-ID: I briefly spoke to a guy with a yellow big healey today. I was driving my dodge truck. Are you on the list? Send me contact info off list if you are. From ghess4 at cox.net Sun May 27 21:43:18 2012 From: ghess4 at cox.net (Ghess4) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 20:43:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Dust covers-ball joints Message-ID: The rubber ball joint dust covers on my ground up restoration are less than three years old and are already cracked and falling off. I can't believe the poor quality! These were purchased from Moss. The car is always garaged and has been driven less than a thousand miles since the covers were installed new. Can anyone suggest a good quality source? I have heard that a domestic car part is a good fit but don't know the brand. I have replaced these on many domestic cars and had them last well over ten years. Thanks very much for any suggestions. G. Alton Hess From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sun May 27 22:16:25 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 21:16:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Starter motor question - more info In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120526124054.0201ccb0@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120526124054.0201ccb0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120527211232.020ace90@pop.att.yahoo.com> One band is non-magnetic, aluminum or zinc, the other was phenolic I believe. At one point I believe they were one band with the phenolic one under the other band. At any rate I glued the bands together with the metal one on the outside. They may act to retain the armature windings, I have no idea otherwise. John At 12:43 PM 5/26/2012 -0700, john spaur wrote: >When I took apart the starter motor to clean and rebuild it there >were two bands on the upper part of the armature; the part at the >opposite end from the commuter. From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sun May 27 22:19:42 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 21:19:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Engine paint Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120527211852.020f8038@pop.att.yahoo.com> I painted the engine and lots of related bits today! John Spaur '62 BT7 From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Mon May 28 00:02:29 2012 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 08:02:29 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Dust covers-ball joints In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Today many "rubber" parts suffer from low quality. Sometimes theese parts begin to crack DURING the restoration. No comment. Gergo 2012/5/28 Ghess4 > The rubber ball joint dust covers on my ground up restoration are less than > three years old and are already cracked and falling off. I can't believe > the > poor quality! These were purchased from Moss. The car is always garaged > and > has been driven less than a thousand miles since the covers were installed > new. > > Can anyone suggest a good quality source? I have heard that a domestic car > part is a good fit but don't know the brand. I have replaced these on many > domestic cars and had them last well over ten years. > > Thanks very much for any suggestions. > G. Alton Hess > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon May 28 00:26:00 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 14:26:00 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dust covers-ball joints In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mr. Hess - For this type of stuff, always refer to John Sim's great website: http://www.healey6.com/replacement_parts.htm And towards the bottom of the list, you will see: Steering Rod Boot Hyundai Dealer Parts 56828-21010 Cover-Dust Tie Rod Apparently this boot is a carbon copy of the original. Best, Alan On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Ghess4 wrote: > The rubber ball joint dust covers on my ground up restoration are less than > three years old and are already cracked and falling off. I can't believe the > poor quality! These were purchased from Moss. The car is always garaged and > has been driven less than a thousand miles since the covers were installed > new. > > Can anyone suggest a good quality source? I have heard that a domestic car > part is a good fit but don't know the brand. I have replaced these on many > domestic cars and had them last well over ten years. > > Thanks very much for any suggestions. > G. Alton Hess From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Mon May 28 01:24:31 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:24:31 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box Message-ID: I have just rebuild the steering box of my 3000 MK2 BT7. In the centre position it turns harder. This I learnt is by intension. But can anybody tell me how much harder should it turn in the centre position? Now as I did it I can really feel the harder movement for a quarter of a steering wheel turn around the centre position. Is this too much tension on the adjusting screw? Shall I release it a bit to have an easy turn also around the centre position? Who knows? Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany From javrugtman at htcnet.org Mon May 28 06:32:49 2012 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 08:32:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FC37071.7000004@htcnet.org> The manual notes that the center drag is measured by a spring scale on the steering wheel of so many ounces. But basically it should be just noticeable with the wheels off the ground. Sounds like you have the adjustment too tight. Or, you can get a constant clearance worm from Dennis Welsh. John 64/66 BJ8s On 5/28/2012 3:24 AM, Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com wrote: > I have just rebuild the steering box of my 3000 MK2 BT7. In the centre > position it turns harder. This I learnt is by intension. But can anybody tell > me how much harder should it turn in the centre position? Now as I did it I > can really feel the harder movement for a quarter of a steering wheel turn > around the centre position. Is this too much tension on the adjusting screw? > Shall I release it a bit to have an easy turn also around the centre > position? > Who knows? > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > _______________________________________________ From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon May 28 09:18:29 2012 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock British Car Specialists) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 08:18:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box In-Reply-To: <4FC37071.7000004@htcnet.org> References: <4FC37071.7000004@htcnet.org> Message-ID: <0BFA8A62-6C09-4CE6-ADDE-B2733577E172@sbcglobal.net> You need to adjust the steering with the wheels off the ground. Jack the car up and support on the lower control arms so there is no stress on the tie rods. Then loosen the adjuster nut on the steering box. Then have an assistant move the steering wheel back and forth to find the tight spot. Now either tighten or loosen the adjuster screw until there is just a little drag in the center position and lock the jam nut down. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca On May 28, 2012, at 5:32 AM, John Vrugtman wrote: > The manual notes that the center drag is measured by a spring scale on the steering wheel of so many ounces. But basically it should be just noticeable with the wheels off the ground. Sounds like you have the adjustment too tight. Or, you can get a constant clearance worm from Dennis Welsh. > > John > 64/66 BJ8s > > On 5/28/2012 3:24 AM, Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com wrote: >> I have just rebuild the steering box of my 3000 MK2 BT7. In the centre >> position it turns harder. This I learnt is by intension. But can anybody tell >> me how much harder should it turn in the centre position? Now as I did it I >> can really feel the harder movement for a quarter of a steering wheel turn >> around the centre position. Is this too much tension on the adjusting screw? >> Shall I release it a bit to have an easy turn also around the centre >> position? >> Who knows? >> >> Josef Eckert >> Konigswinter/Germany >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Mon May 28 10:27:06 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:27:06 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box In-Reply-To: <0BFA8A62-6C09-4CE6-ADDE-B2733577E172@sbcglobal.net> References: <4FC37071.7000004@htcnet.org> <0BFA8A62-6C09-4CE6-ADDE-B2733577E172@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: David, John, Many thanks. The car is still with the wheels off the ground. The car is under restoration and I have just installed the steering and links. This little drag you mention, to my opinion it's a little too much on my car. I hesitate to loosen the adjuster screw again as all is painted and when doing it it breaks off the paintwork. What can happen when the drag is a little more than necessary. Does it destroy the peg or both worm and peg? Thanks, Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von David Nock British Car Specialists Gesendet: Montag, 28. Mai 2012 17:18 An: John Vrugtman Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box You need to adjust the steering with the wheels off the ground. Jack the car up and support on the lower control arms so there is no stress on the tie rods. Then loosen the adjuster nut on the steering box. Then have an assistant move the steering wheel back and forth to find the tight spot. Now either tighten or loosen the adjuster screw until there is just a little drag in the center position and lock the jam nut down. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca From steveg at abrazosdata.com Mon May 28 12:47:35 2012 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 10:47:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Dust_covers-ball_joints?= Message-ID: <20120528184735.25870.qmail@hoster902.com> Gail, I installed the Hyundai part#56828-21010 in September of 2006 and the boots show no cracking or other distress 5-1/2 years later. I bought mine from a local dealer. -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA BN6 >>> Gail Hess wrote: The rubber ball joint dust covers on my ground up restoration are less than three years old and are already cracked and falling off. I can't believe the poor quality! These were purchased from Moss. The car is always garaged and has been driven less than a thousand miles since the covers were installed new. Can anyone suggest a good quality source? I have heard that a domestic car part is a good fit but don't know the brand. I have replaced these on many domestic cars and had them last well over ten years. Thanks very much for any suggestions. G. Alton Hess From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Mon May 28 12:58:41 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:58:41 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Dust covers-ball joints In-Reply-To: <20120528184735.25870.qmail@hoster902.com> References: <20120528184735.25870.qmail@hoster902.com> Message-ID: I also have the Hyundai dust covers on two of my cars for many years. The quality is much superior to any other dust covers you can get. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Steve B. Gerow Gesendet: Montag, 28. Mai 2012 20:48 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Dust covers-ball joints Gail, I installed the Hyundai part#56828-21010 in September of 2006 and the boots show no cracking or other distress 5-1/2 years later. I bought mine from a local dealer. -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA BN6 >>> Gail Hess wrote: The rubber ball joint dust covers on my ground up restoration are less than three years old and are already cracked and falling off. I can't believe the poor quality! These were purchased from Moss. The car is always garaged and has been driven less than a thousand miles since the covers were installed new. Can anyone suggest a good quality source? I have heard that a domestic car part is a good fit but don't know the brand. I have replaced these on many domestic cars and had them last well over ten years. Thanks very much for any suggestions. G. Alton Hess From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Mon May 28 13:30:15 2012 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:30:15 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?electrical_problems?= Message-ID: <20120528193015.13096.qmail@server278.com> working on a friends BT7 and have a couple of electrical problems. one is that the signal light flasher bulb stays on when the signal light selector is in the off position. it flashes correctly when left or right signal is selected. it is not a lucas flasher and i think that might be the problem, but need confirmation. also, replaced a bad sending unit and can only get guage to read 1/4 tank when full. made sure of good ground and cleaned terminal in back of guage to no effect. any ideas. TIA, hjim From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon May 28 12:37:01 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:37:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box In-Reply-To: References: <4FC37071.7000004@htcnet.org> <0BFA8A62-6C09-4CE6-ADDE-B2733577E172@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120528113243.02003868@pop.att.yahoo.com> Unless you plan on trailering your car and not driving it then there is no need to adjust the steering. However, it appears that you intend to drive it which means you will periodically need to adjust the steering. With that in mind, and not intending to have a concours car, I powder coated the steering box (it could be painted) and zinc plated the filler and the adjusting nut so I would not have to worry about chipping the paint when I adjusted the box or when I fill it up. Just a practical thought. John At 06:27 PM 5/28/2012 +0200, Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com wrote: >David, John, >Many thanks. The car is still with the wheels off the ground. The car is under >restoration and I have just installed the steering and links. This little drag >you mention, to my opinion it's a little too much on my car. I hesitate to >loosen the adjuster screw again as all is painted and when doing it it breaks >off the paintwork. What can happen when the drag is a little more than >necessary. Does it destroy the peg or both worm and peg? >Thanks, >Josef Eckert >Konigswinter/Germany > >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im >Auftrag von David Nock British Car Specialists >Gesendet: Montag, 28. Mai 2012 17:18 >An: John Vrugtman >Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box > >You need to adjust the steering with the wheels off the ground. Jack the car >up and support on the lower control arms so there is no stress on the tie >rods. Then loosen the adjuster nut on the steering box. Then have an assistant >move the steering wheel back and forth to find the tight spot. Now either >tighten or loosen the adjuster screw until there is just a little drag in the >center position and lock the jam nut down. > >David Nock >British Car Specialists >Stockton Ca >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Mon May 28 14:05:46 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 22:05:46 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120528113243.02003868@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <4FC37071.7000004@htcnet.org> <0BFA8A62-6C09-4CE6-ADDE-B2733577E172@sbcglobal.net> <6.2.3.4.2.20120528113243.02003868@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John, Sorry I have not mentioned, the car is going to become a Concours car and only might be occasionally driven. So it would hurt me to chip the paint. Conclusion for me, I will leave it as it is and taste how it feels on the road. With very low yearly mileages it would not cause a real damage. Josef -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von john spaur Gesendet: Montag, 28. Mai 2012 20:37 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box Unless you plan on trailering your car and not driving it then there is no need to adjust the steering. However, it appears that you intend to drive it which means you will periodically need to adjust the steering. With that in mind, and not intending to have a concours car, I powder coated the steering box (it could be painted) and zinc plated the filler and the adjusting nut so I would not have to worry about chipping the paint when I adjusted the box or when I fill it up. Just a practical thought. John At 06:27 PM 5/28/2012 +0200, Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com wrote: >David, John, >Many thanks. The car is still with the wheels off the ground. The car >is under restoration and I have just installed the steering and links. >This little drag you mention, to my opinion it's a little too much on >my car. I hesitate to loosen the adjuster screw again as all is painted >and when doing it it breaks off the paintwork. What can happen when the >drag is a little more than necessary. Does it destroy the peg or both worm and peg? >Thanks, >Josef Eckert >Konigswinter/Germany > >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von David Nock >British Car Specialists >Gesendet: Montag, 28. Mai 2012 17:18 >An: John Vrugtman >Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box > >You need to adjust the steering with the wheels off the ground. Jack >the car up and support on the lower control arms so there is no stress >on the tie rods. Then loosen the adjuster nut on the steering box. Then >have an assistant move the steering wheel back and forth to find the >tight spot. Now either tighten or loosen the adjuster screw until there >is just a little drag in the center position and lock the jam nut down. > >David Nock >British Car Specialists >Stockton Ca From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon May 28 14:33:46 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Dust covers-ball joints In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1338237226.9301.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> >From Wikipedia: "When Hyundai wanted to develop their own car, they hired George Turnbull, the former Managing Director of Austin Morris at British Leyland. He in turn hired five other top British car engineers.They were Kenneth Barnett body design, engineers John Simpson and Edward Chapman, John Crosthwaite ex-BRM as chassis engineer and Peter Slater as chief development engineer." Coincidence? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Mon, 5/28/12, Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com wrote: From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Subject: [Healeys] Dust covers-ball joints To: Healeys at autox.team.net Date: Monday, May 28, 2012, 2:58 PM I also have the Hyundai dust covers on two of my cars for many years. The quality is much superior to any other dust covers you can get. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -- From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon May 28 14:38:26 2012 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 22:38:26 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Dust covers-ball joints In-Reply-To: <1338237226.9301.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1338237226.9301.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FC3E242.5010404@chello.nl> Well, those early Hyundais were absolute rubbish and very outdated, so no coincidence. These days they are fairly good cars for relatively little money. Kees Oudesluijs Op 28-5-2012 22:33, HealeyRick schreef: > > From Wikipedia: > > "When Hyundai wanted to develop their own car, they hired George Turnbull, the former Managing Director of Austin Morris at British Leyland. > He in turn hired five other top British car engineers.They were Kenneth > Barnett body design, engineers John Simpson and Edward Chapman, John Crosthwaite ex-BRM as chassis engineer and Peter Slater as chief development engineer." > > Coincidence? > > Rick > > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Mon, 5/28/12, Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com wrote: > > From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com > Subject: [Healeys] Dust covers-ball joints > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, May 28, 2012, 2:58 PM > > I also have the Hyundai dust covers on two of my cars for many years. The > quality is much superior to any other dust covers you can get. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2012.0.1913 / Virusdatabase: 2425/5028 - datum van uitgifte: 05/28/12 > > -- Kees Oudesluijs Dorpsstraat 183 2995XG Heerjansdam T: 078-677 1233 E: coudesluijs at chello.nl Technische commissie Jensen Healey en GT Het Jensen Genootschap Holland www.jensenholland.nl From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon May 28 16:04:50 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:04:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box In-Reply-To: References: <4FC37071.7000004@htcnet.org> <0BFA8A62-6C09-4CE6-ADDE-B2733577E172@sbcglobal.net> <6.2.3.4.2.20120528113243.02003868@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Josef and fellow Listers, Concours cars, especially Austin Healeys, should be driven often and enjoyed. Otherwise why bother ;-) Cheers, Curt Arndt Austin Healey Concours Committee '55 BN1, '60 AN5:{) On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:05 PM, wrote: > John, > Sorry I have not mentioned, the car is going to become a Concours car and > only > might be occasionally driven. > So it would hurt me to chip the paint. > Conclusion for me, I will leave it as it is and taste how it feels on the > road. With very low yearly mileages it would not cause a real damage. > > Josef > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > Im > Auftrag von john spaur > Gesendet: Montag, 28. Mai 2012 20:37 > An: healeys at autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box > > Unless you plan on trailering your car and not driving it then there is no > need to adjust the steering. However, it appears that you intend to drive > it > which means you will periodically need to adjust the steering. With that in > mind, and not intending to have a Concours car, I powder coated the > steering > box (it could be painted) and zinc plated the filler and the adjusting nut > so > I would not have to worry about chipping the paint when I adjusted the box > or > when I fill it up. > > Just a practical thought. > > John From ghess4 at cox.net Mon May 28 16:29:34 2012 From: ghess4 at cox.net (Ghess4) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:29:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Dust covers-ball joints Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ghess4" To: "Alan Seigrist" Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dust covers-ball joints > > Greetings and Thanks to all of you who pointed out the Hyundai Dust > Covers. Yes Alan, you are sure right about John Sim's website and I've > benefited greatly from the wealth of information there and it appears that > I had (or perhaps continue to have at age 82) a lapse of memory! Thanks > again to you all. > G.(Gale) Alton Hess > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Seigrist" > To: "Ghess4" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 11:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dust covers-ball joints > > > Mr. Hess - > > For this type of stuff, always refer to John Sim's great website: > > http://www.healey6.com/replacement_parts.htm > > And towards the bottom of the list, you will see: > > Steering Rod Boot > Hyundai Dealer Parts > 56828-21010 > Cover-Dust Tie Rod > > Apparently this boot is a carbon copy of the original. > > Best, > > Alan From csooch1 at aol.com Mon May 28 17:20:06 2012 From: csooch1 at aol.com (Chris Masucci) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:20:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box In-Reply-To: References: <4FC37071.7000004@htcnet.org> <0BFA8A62-6C09-4CE6-ADDE-B2733577E172@sbcglobal.net> <6.2.3.4.2.20120528113243.02003868@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wholeheartedly agree. May as well never change the oil or grease the suspension for fear of getting it dirty or scraping paint removing the filler cap or dipstick. Cheers, Chris BJ8 Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2012, at 5:04 PM, "Curt/Nancy Arndt" wrote: > Josef and fellow Listers, > > Concours cars, especially Austin Healeys, should be driven often and > enjoyed. Otherwise why bother ;-) > > Cheers, > > Curt Arndt > Austin Healey Concours Committee > '55 BN1, '60 AN5:{) > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:05 PM, wrote: > >> John, >> Sorry I have not mentioned, the car is going to become a Concours car and >> only >> might be occasionally driven. >> So it would hurt me to chip the paint. >> Conclusion for me, I will leave it as it is and taste how it feels on the >> road. With very low yearly mileages it would not cause a real damage. >> >> Josef >> >> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] >> Im >> Auftrag von john spaur >> Gesendet: Montag, 28. Mai 2012 20:37 >> An: healeys at autox.team.net >> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box >> >> Unless you plan on trailering your car and not driving it then there is no >> need to adjust the steering. However, it appears that you intend to drive >> it >> which means you will periodically need to adjust the steering. With that in >> mind, and not intending to have a Concours car, I powder coated the >> steering >> box (it could be painted) and zinc plated the filler and the adjusting nut >> so >> I would not have to worry about chipping the paint when I adjusted the box >> or >> when I fill it up. >> >> Just a practical thought. >> >> John > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/csooch1 at aol.com From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon May 28 17:47:37 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:47:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box In-Reply-To: References: <4FC37071.7000004@htcnet.org> <0BFA8A62-6C09-4CE6-ADDE-B2733577E172@sbcglobal.net> <6.2.3.4.2.20120528113243.02003868@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004e01cd3d2c$43545cb0$c9fd1610$@net> C'mon guys....if I saw a fellow judge trying to deduct a point because a chip was found on an adjusting nut surface of a car being judged in a Concours event, I would personally be inclined to cuff that judge up side of the head for attempting to do so. No wonder these preconceived ideas of "Concours" gives the whole thing such a negative aura. Or maybe that's one of the differences between a North American properly sanctioned Concours judging and "others". Rich Chrysler -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Sent: May-28-12 4:06 PM To: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net; Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box John, Sorry I have not mentioned, the car is going to become a Concours car and only might be occasionally driven. So it would hurt me to chip the paint. Conclusion for me, I will leave it as it is and taste how it feels on the road. With very low yearly mileages it would not cause a real damage. Josef Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box Unless you plan on trailering your car and not driving it then there is no need to adjust the steering. However, it appears that you intend to drive it which means you will periodically need to adjust the steering. With that in mind, and not intending to have a concours car, I powder coated the steering box (it could be painted) and zinc plated the filler and the adjusting nut so I would not have to worry about chipping the paint when I adjusted the box or when I fill it up. Just a practical thought. John At 06:27 PM 5/28/2012 +0200, Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com wrote: >David, John, >Many thanks. The car is still with the wheels off the ground. The car >is under restoration and I have just installed the steering and links. >This little drag you mention, to my opinion it's a little too much on >my car. I hesitate to loosen the adjuster screw again as all is painted >and when doing it it breaks off the paintwork. What can happen when the >drag is a little more than necessary. Does it destroy the peg or both >worm and peg? >Thanks, >Josef Eckert From glemon at neb.rr.com Mon May 28 17:52:35 2012 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:52:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box (100 shim) In-Reply-To: References: <4FC37071.7000004@htcnet.org><0BFA8A62-6C09-4CE6-ADDE-B2733577E172@sbcglobal.net><6.2.3.4.2.20120528113243.02003868@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <055C537CEB9E41CA99BC858EF756A5CD@GregPC> Speaking of adjusting tension on the steering box, I was looking on my pegboard in the garage today and hanging there was one used shim used to adjust the stearing box on the early 100s. No use for it anymore so... Free to a good home, I will even spring for postage in USA. Greg Lemon From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon May 28 18:01:28 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:01:28 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day Message-ID: <671F52288431441CA486F4B90183D946@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day This has absolutely nothing to do with Austin-Healeys, but can someone tell me how widespread the observance of Memorial Day is? I am trying to make contact with a business colleague in LA, but no answer. Hoo Roo Patrick From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon May 28 18:07:23 2012 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:07:23 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day In-Reply-To: <671F52288431441CA486F4B90183D946@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <671F52288431441CA486F4B90183D946@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: Very. Most business are closed today. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > G'day > > > > This has absolutely nothing to do with Austin-Healeys, but can someone tell > me how widespread the observance of Memorial Day is? > > > > I am trying to make contact with a business colleague in LA, but no answer. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From mark at bradakis.com Mon May 28 18:18:23 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:18:23 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day In-Reply-To: <671F52288431441CA486F4B90183D946@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <671F52288431441CA486F4B90183D946@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <4FC415CF.10100@bradakis.com> Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote: > G'day > > > > This has absolutely nothing to do with Austin-Healeys, but can someone tell > me how widespread the observance of Memorial Day is? > > > It is one of the bigger holidays here, marking the start of the summer season with Labor Day the other bookmark. So a LOT of folks take the day off, do fun things and forget about work until Tuesday. Or later. Here's an excerpt from a message to another list I wrote earlier: On a different note, Bailey's will be closed this week while Mike does some vacationing in Oregon, so I'll have time to work on stuff, like getting the Team.Net archives working properly again. I know many folks miss that functionality. One thing I have been meaning to do for quite some time is reply to all those who contributed to Team.Net during the fund drive or just because. So be patient, I've only done a handful so far, you may hear from me soon if you've made use of the donate link! The place I work is closed down all week. We'll see just how much actually gets done the next week at The Fat Chance Garage or at Team.Net's Intergalactic headquarters. mjb. From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon May 28 18:27:23 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:27:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Carroll Shelby Message-ID: <045101cd3d31$d1f41aa0$75dc4fe0$@verizon.net> For those of you who get the Channel, the Velocity cable channel has been running a 3 hour special (broken into one hour segments) on Carroll Shelby. Been running for several days now. Do not know how much longer. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Mon May 28 18:28:00 2012 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 00:28:00 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day In-Reply-To: <671F52288431441CA486F4B90183D946@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <671F52288431441CA486F4B90183D946@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: It's huge - a very big deal. It's a national holiday - a three day weekend to honor our military veterans. The Indy 500 is always on Memorial Day weekend. Banks are closed, there is no mail. Courts are closed as are all city, county, state and federal offices. Most businesses are closed. Special events are scheduled everywhere. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon > From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:01:28 +1000 > Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day > > G'day > > > > This has absolutely nothing to do with Austin-Healeys, but can someone tell > me how widespread the observance of Memorial Day is? > > > > I am trying to make contact with a business colleague in LA, but no answer. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon May 28 18:40:43 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:40:43 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day In-Reply-To: References: <671F52288431441CA486F4B90183D946@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <8E404B75B4B144E5865D510075C5518A@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Many thanks for letting me know about Memorial Day. I wait until tomorrow to contact my colleague. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia _____ From: richard mayor [mailto:mayorrichard at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2012 10:28 AM To: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au; healeys Subject: RE: [Healeys] Memorial Day It's huge - a very big deal. It's a national holiday - a three day weekend to honor our military veterans. The Indy 500 is always on Memorial Day weekend. Banks are closed, there is no mail. Courts are closed as are all city, county, state and federal offices. Most businesses are closed. Special events are scheduled everywhere. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon > From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:01:28 +1000 > Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day > > G'day > > > > This has absolutely nothing to do with Austin-Healeys, but can someone tell > me how widespread the observance of Memorial Day is? > > > > I am trying to make contact with a business colleague in LA, but no answer. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 28 19:00:16 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:00:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Memorial Day Video 2012 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FC41FA0.3040907@justbrits.com> This is too good not to share, folks. "Non Sibi Sed Patriae" - "Semper Fortis" - "Anchors Aweigh" Ed XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Memorial Day Video 2012 Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:59:45 -0700 From: Rick Feibusch Nice short film - submitted by Robert W. of Marina del Rey, CA http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2487638612433437293&q=Vetera From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon May 28 19:13:03 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day In-Reply-To: <8E404B75B4B144E5865D510075C5518A@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <1338253983.48647.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Patrick, Just to clarify a bit, Memorial Day is a federal holiday and celebrated nationwide. And although it's generally seen as the first weekend of summer its real significance is to honor our countrymen and women who have died in battle. Veteran's Day (Nov. 11) is our day to respect those who serve and have served in our military. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Mon, 5/28/12, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote: From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn Subject: Re: [Healeys] Memorial Day To: "'richard mayor'" , "'healeys'" Date: Monday, May 28, 2012, 8:40 PM G'day Many thanks for letting me know about Memorial Day. I wait until tomorrow to contact my colleague. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon May 28 19:18:29 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:18:29 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day In-Reply-To: <1338253983.48647.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <8E404B75B4B144E5865D510075C5518A@PatrickQuinnPC> <1338253983.48647.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <986288098C9945EAA3594CC9FF5A0528@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Two very important days. I can see how Armistice Day (Nov 11th) could easily evolved into Veteran's Day. Does the country observe a minute's silence at 11am on the 11th November like they do here? Armistice Day is not a holiday in Australia. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia _____ From: HealeyRick [mailto:healeyrick at yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2012 11:13 AM To: 'richard mayor'; 'healeys'; Patrick and Caroline Quinn Subject: Re: [Healeys] Memorial Day Patrick, Just to clarify a bit, Memorial Day is a federal holiday and celebrated nationwide. And although it's generally seen as the first weekend of summer its real significance is to honor our countrymen and women who have died in battle. Veteran's Day (Nov. 11) is our day to respect those who serve and have served in our military. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Mon, 5/28/12, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote: From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn Subject: Re: [Healeys] Memorial Day To: "'richard mayor'" , "'healeys'" Date: Monday, May 28, 2012, 8:40 PM G'day Many thanks for letting me know about Memorial Day. I wait until tomorrow to contact my colleague. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From chester3dog at gmail.com Mon May 28 19:39:01 2012 From: chester3dog at gmail.com (Chester Threedog) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:39:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Memorial Day Video 2012 In-Reply-To: <4FC41FA0.3040907@justbrits.com> References: <4FC41FA0.3040907@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Thanks Ed On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:00 PM, " Just Brits " Shop wrote: > This is too good not to share, folks. > > "Non Sibi Sed Patriae" - "Semper Fortis" - "Anchors Aweigh" > > Ed > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Memorial Day Video 2012 > Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:59:45 -0700 > From: Rick Feibusch > > > > > > Nice short film - submitted by Robert W. of Marina del Rey, CA > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2487638612433437293&q=Vetera > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/chester3dog at gmail.com From eyera3000 at gmail.com Mon May 28 19:46:13 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:46:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day In-Reply-To: <986288098C9945EAA3594CC9FF5A0528@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <8E404B75B4B144E5865D510075C5518A@PatrickQuinnPC> <1338253983.48647.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <986288098C9945EAA3594CC9FF5A0528@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: As a former social studies teacher, I would hazard a guess that many Americans do not realize that Veterans day has it's roots in the Armistice of WWI and do not know that 11:11:11 means. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > G'day > > > > Two very important days. > > > > I can see how Armistice Day (Nov 11th) could easily evolved into Veteran's > Day. Does the country observe a minute's silence at 11am on the 11th > November like they do here? Armistice Day is not a holiday in Australia. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Sydney, Australia > > > > _____ > > From: HealeyRick [mailto:healeyrick at yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2012 11:13 AM > To: 'richard mayor'; 'healeys'; Patrick and Caroline Quinn > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Memorial Day > > > > > Patrick, > > Just to clarify a bit, Memorial Day is a federal holiday and celebrated > nationwide. And although it's generally seen as the first weekend of > summer > its real significance is to honor our countrymen and women who have died in > battle. Veteran's Day (Nov. 11) is our day to respect those who serve and > have served in our military. > > Rick > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Mon, 5/28/12, Patrick and Caroline Quinn > wrote: > > > From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Memorial Day > To: "'richard mayor'" , "'healeys'" > > Date: Monday, May 28, 2012, 8:40 PM > > G'day > > > > Many thanks for letting me know about Memorial Day. I wait until tomorrow > to > contact my colleague. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Sydney, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon May 28 19:52:24 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day In-Reply-To: <986288098C9945EAA3594CC9FF5A0528@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <1338256344.88349.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Armistice Day was renamed Veterans Day following the Korean War.B I remember keeping a minute of silence as a kid after marching in Veterans Day parades, but it's been some time since I've been anywhere that's observed it.B Wonder if it's done in the military? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Mon, 5/28/12, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote: From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn Subject: RE: [Healeys] Memorial Day To: "'HealeyRick'" , "'richard mayor'" , "'healeys'" Date: Monday, May 28, 2012, 9:18 PM Gbday B Two very important days. B I can see how Armistice Day (Nov 11th) could easily evolved into Veteranbs Day. Does the country observe a minutebs silence at 11am on the 11th November like they do here? Armistice Day is not a holiday in Australia . B Hoo Roo B Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia B From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Mon May 28 19:54:49 2012 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:54:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day In-Reply-To: <986288098C9945EAA3594CC9FF5A0528@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <8E404B75B4B144E5865D510075C5518A@PatrickQuinnPC><1338253983.48647.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <986288098C9945EAA3594CC9FF5A0528@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <1075ABE3A339482AAC6A4D91C3ACF9C2@LeonardPCPC> "Memorial Day is a federal holiday observed annually in the United States on the last Monday of May.[1] Memorial Day is a day of remembering the men and women who died while serving in the United States Armed Forces.[2] Formerly known as Decoration Day, it originated after the American Civil War to commemorate the Union soldiers who died in the Civil War. By the 20th century Memorial Day had been extended to honor all Americans who have died in all wars..." (Wikipedia) (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" To: "'HealeyRick'" ; "'richard mayor'" ; "'healeys'" Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Memorial Day > G'day > > > > Two very important days. > > > > I can see how Armistice Day (Nov 11th) could easily evolved into Veteran's > Day. Does the country observe a minute's silence at 11am on the 11th > November like they do here? Armistice Day is not a holiday in Australia. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Sydney, Australia > > > > _____ > > From: HealeyRick [mailto:healeyrick at yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2012 11:13 AM > To: 'richard mayor'; 'healeys'; Patrick and Caroline Quinn > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Memorial Day > > > > > Patrick, > > Just to clarify a bit, Memorial Day is a federal holiday and celebrated > nationwide. And although it's generally seen as the first weekend of > summer > its real significance is to honor our countrymen and women who have died > in > battle. Veteran's Day (Nov. 11) is our day to respect those who serve and > have served in our military. > > Rick > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Mon, 5/28/12, Patrick and Caroline Quinn > wrote: > > > From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Memorial Day > To: "'richard mayor'" , "'healeys'" > > Date: Monday, May 28, 2012, 8:40 PM > > G'day > > > > Many thanks for letting me know about Memorial Day. I wait until tomorrow > to > contact my colleague. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Sydney, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net From mark at bradakis.com Mon May 28 20:04:06 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:04:06 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day In-Reply-To: <1075ABE3A339482AAC6A4D91C3ACF9C2@LeonardPCPC> References: <8E404B75B4B144E5865D510075C5518A@PatrickQuinnPC><1338253983.48647.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <986288098C9945EAA3594CC9FF5A0528@PatrickQuinnPC> <1075ABE3A339482AAC6A4D91C3ACF9C2@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <4FC42E96.5060602@bradakis.com> When I was a kid growing up in a sleepy little town in Southwest Michigan we still called it Decoration Day. And it was not just for veterans, but a day to remember all those who have passed. Were that I was still living there, this weekend I would have gone out to the Silver Creek church and put flowers on the graves of my mother, father and brother. mjb. From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Mon May 28 20:03:25 2012 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:03:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Memorial Day In-Reply-To: <1338256344.88349.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1338256344.88349.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <96005CFD362B4EED9F1C50B3E7F1E574@LeonardPCPC> "Armistice Day (which overlaps with Remembrance Day) is on 11 November and commemorates the armistice signed between the Allies of World War I and Germany at Compihgne, France, for the cessation of hostilities on the Western Front of World War I, which took effect at eleven o'clock in the morning-the "eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month" of 1918... After World War II, the name of the holiday was changed to Veterans Day in the United States and to Remembrance Day in the countries of the British Commonwealth of Nations. Armistice Day remains an official holiday in France and Belgium..." (Again, Wikipedia) (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 From Healey100M at gmail.com Mon May 28 22:23:42 2012 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 00:23:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box In-Reply-To: <004e01cd3d2c$43545cb0$c9fd1610$@net> References: <4FC37071.7000004@htcnet.org> <0BFA8A62-6C09-4CE6-ADDE-B2733577E172@sbcglobal.net> <6.2.3.4.2.20120528113243.02003868@pop.att.yahoo.com> <004e01cd3d2c$43545cb0$c9fd1610$@net> Message-ID: <4D30002D-164B-4D61-A7E2-F61BC85E6727@gmail.com> I remember David Koch driving his Factory 100M from Ontario to Texas Conclave, (2004) going Gold and then driving it home. Some minor scratches and nicks but as he told me"I fixed it once, I can do it again". He loved driving that car. (RIP) I plan to do a concours car and I plan on driving it. Randy On May 28, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > C'mon guys....if I saw a fellow judge trying to deduct a point because a > chip was found on an adjusting nut surface of a car being judged in a > Concours event, I would personally be inclined to cuff that judge up side of > the head for attempting to do so. > > No wonder these preconceived ideas of "Concours" gives the whole thing such > a negative aura. > > Or maybe that's one of the differences between a North American properly > sanctioned Concours judging and "others". > > Rich Chrysler > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com > Sent: May-28-12 4:06 PM > To: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net; Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box > > John, > Sorry I have not mentioned, the car is going to become a Concours car and > only might be occasionally driven. > So it would hurt me to chip the paint. > Conclusion for me, I will leave it as it is and taste how it feels on the > road. With very low yearly mileages it would not cause a real damage. > > Josef > > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box > > Unless you plan on trailering your car and not driving it then there is no > need to adjust the steering. However, it appears that you intend to drive it > which means you will periodically need to adjust the steering. With that in > mind, and not intending to have a concours car, I powder coated the steering > box (it could be painted) and zinc plated the filler and the adjusting nut > so I would not have to worry about chipping the paint when I adjusted the > box or when I fill it up. > > Just a practical thought. > > John > > At 06:27 PM 5/28/2012 +0200, Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com wrote: >> David, John, >> Many thanks. The car is still with the wheels off the ground. The car >> is under restoration and I have just installed the steering and links. >> This little drag you mention, to my opinion it's a little too much on >> my car. I hesitate to loosen the adjuster screw again as all is painted >> and when doing it it breaks off the paintwork. What can happen when the >> drag is a little more than necessary. Does it destroy the peg or both >> worm > and peg? >> Thanks, >> Josef Eckert > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at gmail.com From Healey100M at gmail.com Mon May 28 22:26:39 2012 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 00:26:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box In-Reply-To: <004e01cd3d2c$43545cb0$c9fd1610$@net> References: <4FC37071.7000004@htcnet.org> <0BFA8A62-6C09-4CE6-ADDE-B2733577E172@sbcglobal.net> <6.2.3.4.2.20120528113243.02003868@pop.att.yahoo.com> <004e01cd3d2c$43545cb0$c9fd1610$@net> Message-ID: I remember David Koch driving his Factory 100M from Ontario to Texas Conclave, (2004) going Gold and then driving it home. Some minor scratches and nicks but as he told me"I fixed it once, I can do it again". He loved driving that car. (RIP) I plan to do a concours car and I plan on driving it. Randy On May 28, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > C'mon guys....if I saw a fellow judge trying to deduct a point because a > chip was found on an adjusting nut surface of a car being judged in a > Concours event, I would personally be inclined to cuff that judge up side of > the head for attempting to do so. > > No wonder these preconceived ideas of "Concours" gives the whole thing such > a negative aura. > > Or maybe that's one of the differences between a North American properly > sanctioned Concours judging and "others". > > Rich Chrysler > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com > Sent: May-28-12 4:06 PM > To: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net; Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box > > John, > Sorry I have not mentioned, the car is going to become a Concours car and > only might be occasionally driven. > So it would hurt me to chip the paint. > Conclusion for me, I will leave it as it is and taste how it feels on the > road. With very low yearly mileages it would not cause a real damage. > > Josef > > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box > > Unless you plan on trailering your car and not driving it then there is no > need to adjust the steering. However, it appears that you intend to drive it > which means you will periodically need to adjust the steering. With that in > mind, and not intending to have a concours car, I powder coated the steering > box (it could be painted) and zinc plated the filler and the adjusting nut > so I would not have to worry about chipping the paint when I adjusted the > box or when I fill it up. > > Just a practical thought. > > John > > At 06:27 PM 5/28/2012 +0200, Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com wrote: >> David, John, >> Many thanks. The car is still with the wheels off the ground. The car >> is under restoration and I have just installed the steering and links. >> This little drag you mention, to my opinion it's a little too much on >> my car. I hesitate to loosen the adjuster screw again as all is painted >> and when doing it it breaks off the paintwork. What can happen when the >> drag is a little more than necessary. Does it destroy the peg or both >> worm > and peg? >> Thanks, >> Josef Eckert > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at gmail.com From rnbmail at yahoo.com Tue May 29 00:50:17 2012 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 23:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Big Healey Rack Steering >> Message-ID: <1338274217.53890.YahooMailClassic@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Having previously owned an MGB/Sprite, I appreciate rack steering ... Does anyone have experience with an aftermarket rack steering conversion for the Big Healey from an outfit called Britaniaparts.com? Just saw an older ad in Healey mag of March 11. The rack idea appeals to me as I like sensible driving improvements .... but I would not want it to be a nightmare. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com From rnbmail at yahoo.com Tue May 29 01:11:46 2012 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 00:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust System Results >>> Nice. Message-ID: <1338275506.15228.YahooMailClassic@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My BJ8 exhaust system finally had too many patches, and so it was time for a new system. It was a Burgess, and may have been original. As my car is lowered at the rear to avoid the excess whell well gap, I often bottomed the rear cross boxes on shopping mall bumps.... Questions therefore were: 1. Stainless or Mild? 2. Rear cross boxes or not? Decision was stainless [got a great deal on Bell], and NO rear cross boxes. Tail pipes now emerge on drivers side like earlier cars, but retained the BJ8 signature curl up. Result is exellent - very nice healthy Healey burble, but not at all noisy. And better ground clearance. Except for you serious concours folks, I would recommend omitting the cross boxes at replacement time. Looks good, sounds good, and cheaper. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Tue May 29 04:30:03 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:30:03 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box Message-ID: Curt, Rich and others Perhaps my question wasn`t clear enough. I just have the feeling in centre position my steering box is a bit too tight. Perhaps its just right as it is. I am just looking for a way to verify, prove, before I am loosing the adjusting screw and there is no need to do it. Perhaps there is no defined way to check if its just right or too tight. I just wanted to get some expertise knowledge how to find out. The other question is, is it allowed to drive a classic car only occasionally and not over long distances? Or is it too be denunciated by anybody? I think the owner has good reasons to do it the one or other way. For me its much more fun to work, restore a car than driving it later. But that`s me. And I own 5 classic cars, 3 Austin-Healeys, and I can choose which to drive. And I have a modern car and a trailer. Here in centre Europe (UK included) its really no fun at all to drive a classic car along the motorways over long distances. All who know the extreme heavy traffic here, may understand that its much more convenient to load a classic on a tailer and take it to the event that way. On motorways its even dangerous to go with a classic car which cannot cope with modern days traffic (there are plenty of modern 200+ horsepower cars around and drivers play with you) . Heavy congestions are really normal around the cities and industrial zones and we have too many of them. When there is free flow of traffic (that can happen from time to time, mostly during night) you are an obstacle for modern cars and even trucks are overtaking or stay extremely close to your rear bumper - not nice. So no fun to drive a Healey on motorways over longer distances. Nobody takes care of you in your small classic car. Sorry, but when spending such a lot of money in a car I do not want to have it damaged in any way. So I take the easy way. I do not want to be a hero. Hero`s die early. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany Von: Curt/Nancy Arndt [mailto:cnaarndt at gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Mai 2012 00:05 An: Eckert, Josef Cc: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net; Healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box Josef and fellow Listers, Concours cars, especially Austin Healeys, should be driven often and enjoyed. Otherwise why bother ;-) Cheers, Curt Arndt Austin Healey Concours Committee '55 BN1, '60 AN5:{) On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:05 PM, > wrote: John, Sorry I have not mentioned, the car is going to become a Concours car and only might be occasionally driven. So it would hurt me to chip the paint. Conclusion for me, I will leave it as it is and taste how it feels on the road. With very low yearly mileages it would not cause a real damage. Josef From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Tue May 29 11:55:27 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:55:27 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box In-Reply-To: <009c01cd3dac$958ff040$c0afd0c0$@warner-associates.com> References: <009c01cd3dac$958ff040$c0afd0c0$@warner-associates.com> Message-ID: On our roads are full of trucks from all over Europe, Rumania, Bulgaria, Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Greek, Italy, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium, Holland, UK, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland and so on. Most of them cannot understand or even read German language, not even English language. What does it help to do a sign or sticker? ;-) -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Dan Stromquist [mailto:dan at warner-associates.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Mai 2012 17:06 An: Eckert, Josef; Healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: RE: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box Put a bumper sticker/sign on your car that says "I have bad brakes and bad brake lights" or similar. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:30 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box Curt, Rich and others Perhaps my question wasn`t clear enough. I just have the feeling in centre position my steering box is a bit too tight. Perhaps its just right as it is. I am just looking for a way to verify, prove, before I am loosing the adjusting screw and there is no need to do it. Perhaps there is no defined way to check if its just right or too tight. I just wanted to get some expertise knowledge how to find out. The other question is, is it allowed to drive a classic car only occasionally and not over long distances? Or is it too be denunciated by anybody? I think the owner has good reasons to do it the one or other way. For me its much more fun to work, restore a car than driving it later. But that`s me. And I own 5 classic cars, 3 Austin-Healeys, and I can choose which to drive. And I have a modern car and a trailer. Here in centre Europe (UK included) its really no fun at all to drive a classic car along the motorways over long distances. All who know the extreme heavy traffic here, may understand that its much more convenient to load a classic on a tailer and take it to the event that way. On motorways its even dangerous to go with a classic car which cannot cope with modern days traffic (there are plenty of modern 200+ horsepower cars around and drivers play with you) . Heavy congestions are really normal around the cities and industrial zones and we have too many of them. When there is free flow of traffic (that can happen from time to time, mostly during night) you are an obstacle for modern cars and even trucks are overtaking or stay extremely close to your rear bumper - not nice. So no fun to drive a Healey on motorways over longer distances. Nobody takes care of you in your small classic car. Sorry, but when spending such a lot of money in a car I do not want to have it damaged in any way. So I take the easy way. I do not want to be a hero. Hero`s die early. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany From mark at bradakis.com Tue May 29 12:36:36 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:36:36 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Drivers vs. Shiners Message-ID: <4FC51734.6090204@bradakis.com> One of my Triumph buddies told about a certain TR6 at an early Vintage Triumph Register convention. The VTR rules say that for a car to be eligible for an award in the Concours, it must participate in one of the moving events. So at the autocross these folks push a TR6 out of the enclosed trailer. They put in oil, brake fluid, antifreeze. The owner made one autocross run, basically doing the whole course at idle speed - the bare minimum to qualify. Then they drained the oil, drained the antifreeze, drained the brake fluid then carefully pushed the car back into the trailer. Wow. mjb. From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Tue May 29 12:37:44 2012 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:37:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Drivers vs. Shiners In-Reply-To: <4FC51734.6090204@bradakis.com> References: <4FC51734.6090204@bradakis.com> Message-ID: all i can say is "pity" ron On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > One of my Triumph buddies told about a certain TR6 at an early Vintage > Triumph Register convention. The VTR rules say that for a car to be > eligible for an award in the Concours, it must participate in one of the > moving events. > > So at the autocross these folks push a TR6 out of the enclosed trailer. > They put in oil, brake fluid, antifreeze. The owner made one autocross > run, basically doing the whole course at idle speed - the bare minimum > to qualify. Then they drained the oil, drained the antifreeze, drained > the > brake fluid then carefully pushed the car back into the trailer. > > Wow. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/f.ronald.rader at gmail.com From mark at bradakis.com Tue May 29 12:51:56 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:51:56 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Drivers vs. Shiners In-Reply-To: References: <4FC51734.6090204@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <4FC51ACC.2020505@bradakis.com> F Ronald Rader wrote: > all i can say is "pity" > Really. And once back in the trailer, it stayed locked up in there until they rolled it out on the show grounds. Rumor has it that was the one and only VTR meet the attended. Seems they just didn't quite fit in with the usual VTR crowd, you know, the other 2 - 3 hundred folks who spent the weekend proudly DRIVING their Triumphs. mjb. From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Tue May 29 12:52:38 2012 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Looking for T9 gearbox in the USA Message-ID: <1338317558.40182.YahooMailNeo@web120501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I am looking for a Ford Type 9 Gearbox located in the USA. Any leads ? Thanks Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia From agrossman at pacific.net Tue May 29 14:00:23 2012 From: agrossman at pacific.net (Alan Grossman) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:00:23 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Wheel Cylinders Message-ID: <8D935B2A3DAA4E25BF3B14E777AA046F@AlanPC> Hi, Need to replace the rear w/c s on my 1958 BN4. I don't really want to have them sleeved, because I don't want to wait. I have had problems with repro cylinders on my Landy 88. I could sure use some guidance about what would be the best cylinder. I like to save a buck, but not at tthe expense of safety. Thanks, Alan From besaw55 at yahoo.com Tue May 29 14:14:43 2012 From: besaw55 at yahoo.com (Skip Besaw) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 16:14:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Advice on selling a BJ8 Message-ID: All, I have a 1967 BJ8. It has won many awards and is in excellent mechanical and cosmetic condition with many upgrades. All original parts available as well as extras. Conditions dictate that it is time to sell the Healey and I would like to get a fair price. Can anyone point me to what they have found to be a good resource to sell this car wether it be a publication, auction or other? Please respond directly. Thank you in advance for any guidance you can provide. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue May 29 15:07:36 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:07:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box In-Reply-To: References: <009c01cd3dac$958ff040$c0afd0c0$@warner-associates.com> Message-ID: Josef, OK point taken, HOWEVER... all that means to me is that you take your Healey to the *N|rburgring* every month to make certain it's running correctly ;-^) Cheers, Curt On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:55 AM, wrote: > On our roads are full of trucks from all over Europe, Rumania, Bulgaria, > Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Greek, > Italy, > Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium, Holland, UK, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, > Finland and so on. Most of them cannot understand or even read German > language, not even English language. What does it help to do a sign or > sticker? ;-) > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Dan Stromquist [mailto:dan at warner-associates.com] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Mai 2012 17:06 > An: Eckert, Josef; Healeys at autox.team.net > Betreff: RE: [Healeys] Adjusting tension steering box From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue May 29 15:09:46 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:09:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Drivers vs. Shiners In-Reply-To: <4FC51ACC.2020505@bradakis.com> References: <4FC51734.6090204@bradakis.com> <4FC51ACC.2020505@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Mark, Gosh, most Jaguar Concours folks I know aren't even that anal. Curt On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > F Ronald Rader wrote: > >> all i can say is "pity" >> >> > Really. And once back in the trailer, it stayed locked up in there until > they rolled it out on the show grounds. Rumor has it that was the one > and only VTR meet the attended. Seems they just didn't quite fit in with > the usual VTR crowd, you know, the other 2 - 3 hundred folks who spent > the weekend proudly DRIVING their Triumphs. > > > mjb. > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/cnaarndt@**gmail.com From eyera3000 at gmail.com Tue May 29 15:30:12 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:30:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Wheel Cylinders In-Reply-To: <8D935B2A3DAA4E25BF3B14E777AA046F@AlanPC> References: <8D935B2A3DAA4E25BF3B14E777AA046F@AlanPC> Message-ID: white post and apple hydraulics sell rebuilt units with a good reputation On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Alan Grossman wrote: > Hi, > Need to replace the rear w/c s on my 1958 BN4. I don't really want to have > them sleeved, because I don't want to wait. I have had problems with repro > cylinders on my Landy 88. I could sure use some guidance about what would > be > the best cylinder. I like to save a buck, but not at tthe expense of > safety. > Thanks, Alan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From jjkbj7 at yahoo.com Tue May 29 15:56:25 2012 From: jjkbj7 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Looking for T9 gearbox in the USA In-Reply-To: <1338317558.40182.YahooMailNeo@web120501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1338317558.40182.YahooMailNeo@web120501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1338328585.76205.YahooMailNeo@web130103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> John Esposito at Quantum Mechanics has them. http://www.quantumechanics.com/index.php John Kuzman ________________________________ From: Josi Vicente Vargas To: Healey List Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: [Healeys] Looking for T9 gearbox in the USA I am looking for a Ford Type 9 Gearbox located in the USA. Any leads ? Thanks Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jjkbj7 at yahoo.com From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Tue May 29 16:32:25 2012 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 08:32:25 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine Message-ID: <48C2939711324AD486C61950DD550162@Notebook> Gbday list Anyone know what a 100 engine (or engine & transmission) weighs? Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue May 29 17:04:55 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 16:04:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine In-Reply-To: <48C2939711324AD486C61950DD550162@Notebook> References: <48C2939711324AD486C61950DD550162@Notebook> Message-ID: Peter, Don't quote me, but off the top of my head I believe it's 550 lbs. Supposedly more than a Ford 289 V8. Cheers, Curt On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Peter & Veronica wrote: > Gb day list > > Anyone know what a 100 engine (or engine & transmission) weighs? > > Cheers > > Peter Linn > Brisbane Oz > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From mikljmal at gmail.com Tue May 29 17:45:39 2012 From: mikljmal at gmail.com (Michael J Maloney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:45:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine In-Reply-To: References: <48C2939711324AD486C61950DD550162@Notebook> Message-ID: Hi All; Engine 611 lbs (277kg) Gearbox std 79.5 lbs (36.027 kg) Gearbox W/overdrive 117 lbs (52.907kg) >From workshop manual AKD 1179H Mike Maloney 66 HLY On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Peter, > > Don't quote me, but off the top of my head I believe it's 550 lbs. > Supposedly more than a Ford 289 V8. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Peter & Veronica > wrote: > > > Gb day list > > > > Anyone know what a 100 engine (or engine & transmission) weighs? > > > > Cheers > > > > Peter Linn > > Brisbane Oz > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mikljmal at gmail.com From rchaskell at earthlink.net Tue May 29 18:11:17 2012 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 20:11:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] shows on Velocity channel Message-ID: <4FC565A5.2030408@earthlink.net> Listers, On Discovery's Velocity channel: 1) tonight's episode of Chasing Classic Cars at 10 PM (EDT) auctioning a 1961 3000 Mk I BN7 2) June 10th at 10 PM (EDT) Deadliest Crashes - "The 1955 Le Mans Disaster". Cheers, Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Tue May 29 19:52:24 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:52:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] water pump bearings Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120529182435.0201d938@pop.att.yahoo.com> I have my two water pumps with 3/8" pulley's disassembled; one original with the oil screw and one without. The new one without the oil hole appears to have permanently lubricated bearings. They both have a small shaft through bearings that are fitted to a larger shaft that is pressed into the water pump housing. The other does not but both shafts with the bearings appear very similar. The bearings in the new shaft seam smooth with a little bit of end play back and forth. About .008 - it's hard to measure. Does that sound like it is good? Is the shaft just pressed through the bearings? That's what it looks like. Are the bearings available? Any thoughts on rebuilding the pump? John Spaur San Jose, CA '62 BT7 From austin.healey at gmail.com Tue May 29 20:08:49 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 12:08:49 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] water pump bearings In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120529182435.0201d938@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120529182435.0201d938@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi John, I sent you a pic separately. the bearing and shaft are one piece on a bj8 pump. Just rebuilt mine. Biggest issues are you really need a press to get the brg out of the housing, and a press to get the impeller off the brg. You can improvise with a vice, but you run the risk of breaking the impeller. And usually, the back of the impeller needs to be cleaned up on a lathe where the seal goes. I rebuilt the old original pump with the grease drilling. All good. Problem with the new pumps is they are county...... Mike Salter has brgs and seals for bj8 pumps Best Chris PS. Yes Patrick, I took pics and wrote an article for you.... ;-) Sent from my iPhone On 30/05/2012, at 11:52 AM, john spaur wrote: > I have my two water pumps with 3/8" pulley's disassembled; one original with the oil screw and one without. The new one without the oil hole appears to have permanently lubricated bearings. They both have a small shaft through bearings that are fitted to a larger shaft that is pressed into the water pump housing. The other does not but both shafts with the bearings appear very similar. > > The bearings in the new shaft seam smooth with a little bit of end play back and forth. About .008 - it's hard to measure. Does that sound like it is good? > > Is the shaft just pressed through the bearings? That's what it looks like. Are the bearings available? Any thoughts on rebuilding the pump? From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Tue May 29 21:55:55 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 20:55:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] water pump bearings In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120529182435.0201d938@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120529205319.020c37b0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Hi Chris, I broke the impeller, years ago, when I tried to take the pulley off. However, the shaft is in really bad shape due to rust; seal must have leaked for a long time. Thanks for the tips. John At 12:08 PM 5/30/2012 +1000, Chris Dimmock wrote: >Hi John, >I sent you a pic separately. the bearing and shaft are one piece on >a bj8 pump. >Just rebuilt mine. >Biggest issues are you really need a press to get the brg out of the >housing, and a press to get the impeller off the brg. You can >improvise with a vice, but you run the risk of breaking the >impeller. And usually, the back of the impeller needs to be cleaned >up on a lathe where the seal goes. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue May 29 22:01:41 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:01:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine In-Reply-To: <48C2939711324AD486C61950DD550162@Notebook> References: <48C2939711324AD486C61950DD550162@Notebook> Message-ID: Peter, >From a friend with several 100s, one with a 289 installed... *"With an aluminum intake and bell housing, the 289 is 5 lbs lighter than the 100 engine. 526 vs 531.*" So at 531 lbs., I was close at 550, but that's just the engine alone. Curt On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Peter & Veronica wrote: > Gb day list > > Anyone know what a 100 engine (or engine & transmission) weighs? > > Cheers > > Peter Linn > Brisbane Oz > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Wed May 30 00:37:37 2012 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 08:37:37 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Drivers vs. Shiners In-Reply-To: References: <4FC51734.6090204@bradakis.com> <4FC51ACC.2020505@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Quite sad indeed. I am involved in FIA historic rallying, and all I can say old cars come back to life above 5k on the tacho: spectators smiling and weaving, engine pulling to the limit, tyres squeeling on the tarmack, pilots begging for grip... just like in the good old days. Why not? I immgine that a trailer queen will live a longer life, but nowhere near as intreting imho. Gergo 2012/5/29 Curt/Nancy Arndt > Mark, > > Gosh, most Jaguar Concours folks I know aren't even that anal. > > Curt > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Mark J Bradakis > wrote: > > > F Ronald Rader wrote: > > > >> all i can say is "pity" > >> > >> > > Really. And once back in the trailer, it stayed locked up in there until > > they rolled it out on the show grounds. Rumor has it that was the one > > and only VTR meet the attended. Seems they just didn't quite fit in with > > the usual VTR crowd, you know, the other 2 - 3 hundred folks who spent > > the weekend proudly DRIVING their Triumphs. > > > > > > mjb. > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html< > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys< > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > > options/healeys/cnaarndt@**gmail.com< > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From Tadeusz.Malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed May 30 00:40:52 2012 From: Tadeusz.Malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 08:40:52 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Few Healeys at Bonhams comming up Message-ID: A Silverstone for restoration, among other rare Healeys: http://tinyurl.com/74ywkqs http://tinyurl.com/7xrlvhf http://tinyurl.com/88bzbl9 http://tinyurl.com/7l6lc3g There is also a BN1 and a 3000.. Tadek From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Wed May 30 01:18:22 2012 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 00:18:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Drivers vs. Shiners In-Reply-To: References: <4FC51734.6090204@bradakis.com> <4FC51ACC.2020505@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <2AC891CF-6867-4A8F-8099-6E71CC5A4604@gmail.com> where is the passion in showing a car. it is nice. it is good. it is not like pushing your car thru the mountains in Az or Montana. that is not good. that is WOW!! ron XK 150 FHC Nash Healey E Type GT 350 H all driven hard and put away wet. Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Austin Healey wrote: > say From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed May 30 01:25:33 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:25:33 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Few Healeys at Bonhams comming up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My heavens. I nearly fell off my chair. In 25 years of owning a Healey Duncan saloon I have never seen one come up for sale. Plus a drone too. Both are very interesting cars in Healey History. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tadeusz Malkiewicz Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2012 4:41 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Few Healeys at Bonhams comming up A Silverstone for restoration, among other rare Healeys: http://tinyurl.com/74ywkqs http://tinyurl.com/7xrlvhf http://tinyurl.com/88bzbl9 http://tinyurl.com/7l6lc3g There is also a BN1 and a 3000.. Tadek Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au From varley at cosmos.net.au Wed May 30 02:17:46 2012 From: varley at cosmos.net.au (Larry Varley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 18:17:46 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Few Healeys at Bonhams comming up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FC5D7AA.2020905@cosmos.net.au> What an amazing collection of Healey cars, thanks for the link Tadek On 30/05/2012 4:40 PM, Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > A Silverstone for restoration, among other rare Healeys: > http://tinyurl.com/74ywkqs > http://tinyurl.com/7xrlvhf > http://tinyurl.com/88bzbl9 > http://tinyurl.com/7l6lc3g > > There is also a BN1 and a 3000.. > > Tadek > _______________________________________________ From derek.c.job at gmail.com Wed May 30 02:46:02 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:46:02 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Few Healeys at Bonhams comming up In-Reply-To: <4FC5D7AA.2020905@cosmos.net.au> References: <4FC5D7AA.2020905@cosmos.net.au> Message-ID: The estimate for the Duncan saloon is 3000-5000 pounds. The registration JUC 1 is worth probably more than that alone. Derek On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Larry Varley wrote: > What an amazing collection of Healey cars, thanks for the link Tadek > > > On 30/05/2012 4:40 PM, Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > >> A Silverstone for restoration, among other rare Healeys: >> http://tinyurl.com/74ywkqs >> http://tinyurl.com/7xrlvhf >> http://tinyurl.com/88bzbl9 >> http://tinyurl.com/7l6lc3g >> >> There is also a BN1 and a 3000.. >> >> Tadek >> ______________________________**_________________ >> > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/derek.c.job@**gmail.com From dos_gusanos at msn.com Wed May 30 09:00:25 2012 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:00:25 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Drivers vs. Shiners In-Reply-To: References: <4FC51734.6090204@bradakis.com>, , <4FC51ACC.2020505@bradakis.com>, Message-ID: I see both sides of the argument. After you have spent years cleaning every little clip on your car to bring it back to exact original condition, it's hard to watch a bird poop on it and take $30K off the value at auction. Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM (I hope the guys who autocrossed their TR6 at idle, at least won the concours, assuming it wasn't popular choice.) From kit at henrymotorsports.com Wed May 30 09:39:40 2012 From: kit at henrymotorsports.com (Kit Henry) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:39:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Drivers vs. Shiners References: <4FC51734.6090204@bradakis.com>, , <4FC51ACC.2020505@bradakis.com>, Message-ID: <5CE2D89D42AC40C2AD00D3FB5F21CA52@henryfce283bea> I see and don't see both sides of this. The majority of concours cars I have ever seen are better than the way they were when they were built. These cars were built in factories and no matter how much care is given they all have flaws, and mistakes and little chips here and there. Let it be. Sorry I am a believer that the cars were meant to be driven not put on trailers. I sold my fully restored 54 Mg TF as it was better than new, great car was afraid to park it anywhere. On the other hand I loved my in progress 65 BJ 8, that got the wheels run off of it and was driven like Donald had built it to be, it was unfortunately sold and is now with the Westfall's in Chicgao and they are slowly doing the restoration, while enjoying her tempermental british charm. Last year at Put In Bay, my brother gave me the cahnce to drive our families beloved 1948 MG TC, and I'm told I wheeled it almost as hard as my father would of (He was probaly grinning from ear to ear) I did a jaguar deal one time in Cleveland, and it was fun, though never again will I spend that much time to detail a car for the driven class to find out driven to most these guys meant to unlaod the car from a tariler a couple blocks away and drive into the show. Our went 90 miles down the turnpike, bugs normal leaks and all and then were clean as best possible for the show. Guess what we didn't do that well, though bet I had more FUN driving a car that was built to be driven. Kit Henry 85 Jaguar XJS (Gertrag 5 speed) 48 MG TC (Chuck Henry's HP Race Car) 72 Volkswagen Beetle Convertible Restored and FOR SALE 69 Dodge A 100 Cab Over P/U 79 Dodge Warlock 71 Innocenti Mini ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Morrison" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Drivers vs. Shiners >I see both sides of the argument. After you have spent years cleaning >every > little clip on your car to bring it back to exact original condition, it's > hard to watch a bird poop on it and take $30K off the value at auction. > > Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM > > (I hope the guys who autocrossed their TR6 at idle, at least won the > concours, > assuming it wasn't popular choice.) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/kit at henrymotorsports.com From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Wed May 30 10:54:33 2012 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (mark lapierre) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Flame Thrower Lamps For Sale Message-ID: <1338396873.77762.YahooMailClassic@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have 4 7inch driving lamps for sale. Two are in very good condition, other 2 are for parts. Bulbs are 48W, lens are in good condition and exterior chrome is very good on both of the good units One unit has been rechromed because the numbers by the post are gone and that is what the seller informed me years ago when I purchased these. Asking price is 200. for the very good, 150 for the rechromed unit. and 50 each for the parts units. Both lenses on the parts units have cracks but the exterior units can be rechromed and reused. I will put some pictures together for those that are interested. Please email me off the list so as not to bore the non interested. Thanks, Mark From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Wed May 30 13:05:05 2012 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:05:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Rag Top For Sale, New Message-ID: <7DB5AEF82FB94F4E8339D86E37B0A906@markl946cfrd7q> I ended up with 2 new tops so here is the extra one for sale. Fits a 1960 BT7 and what ever else that includes. FYI, the top frame on my car does not attach to the top. The header bar is permanently attached to the top. Both the frame and the top fold up and store behind the rear seat back. This is a custom made , black crush vinyl top that was copied from a Robbins top. However I asked that the window be made smaller than what the Robbins top had. I ordered 2, one with a small zip out rear window and the other with a small plain window. This is the top with out a zipper. It comes with the Tennex fasteners,(not installed) the Hydum strip for the front and it is brand new still in the box. Moss price is $389.00 for a Robbins top , I will sell this for $285.00 buyer pays shipping. Please contact me off the list. Zip code is 46615, IN. if you want to check ship rates. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed May 30 15:00:25 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 14:00:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Purolator Oil Filter Assembly Message-ID: Hi Listers, Does anyone on the List have an early Purolator Oil Filter Assembly for a 100 (four cylinder) they'd be will to part with? (Maybe you replaced yours with a spin-on filter and don't need the original canister type anymore.) Thanks, Curt From michael.oritt at gmail.com Wed May 30 15:19:22 2012 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:19:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Purolator Oil Filter Assembly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Curt-- If you mean the original canister I believe I do. My car's number is 222333 so if you think that will work for you let me know and when I get back home on Monday I will try to dig it out. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Hi Listers, > > Does anyone on the List have an early Purolator Oil Filter Assembly for a > 100 (four cylinder) they'd be will to part with? (Maybe you replaced yours > with a spin-on filter and don't need the original canister type anymore.) > > Thanks, > > Curt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Wed May 30 17:08:21 2012 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:08:21 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine In-Reply-To: References: <48C2939711324AD486C61950DD550162@Notebook> Message-ID: <692955133C654E238C9639A4409E71D9@Notebook> Many thanks for replies. Ibm trying to work out how much my Ausca project would weigh with a Healey drivetrain. So far: chassis (Kilmartin) 82kg (according to Jule Enterprises site); body: 55kg; engine/transmission: 330kg. Thatbs 467kg total. Any estimates as to what the rest of the running gear (front suspension, rear axle, springs, wheels etc b would add? Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz From: Curt/Nancy Arndt Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:01 PM To: Peter & Veronica Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine Peter, >From a friend with several 100s, one with a 289 installed... "With an aluminum intake and bell housing, the 289 is 5 lbs lighter than the 100 engine. 526 vs 531." So at 531 lbs., I was close at 550, but that's just the engine alone. Curt On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Peter & Veronica wrote: Gb day list Anyone know what a 100 engine (or engine & transmission) weighs? Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Wed May 30 18:36:55 2012 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 00:36:55 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine In-Reply-To: References: <48C2939711324AD486C61950DD550162@Notebook>, , Message-ID: Wrong. 611 lbs is the weight of the 6 cylinder engine. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon > Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:45:39 -0400 > From: mikljmal at gmail.com > To: cnaarndt at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine > > Hi All; > Engine 611 lbs (277kg) > Gearbox std 79.5 lbs (36.027 kg) > Gearbox W/overdrive 117 lbs (52.907kg) > From workshop manual AKD 1179H > Mike Maloney 66 HLY > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > > > Peter, > > > > Don't quote me, but off the top of my head I believe it's 550 lbs. > > Supposedly more than a Ford 289 V8. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Curt > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Peter & Veronica > > wrote: > > > > > Gb day list > > > > > > Anyone know what a 100 engine (or engine & transmission) weighs? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Peter Linn > > > Brisbane Oz > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mikljmal at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com From fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com Wed May 30 20:01:01 2012 From: fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com (teamhealeytexas) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 21:01:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine In-Reply-To: References: <48C2939711324AD486C61950DD550162@Notebook>, , Message-ID: <30CB7076336649C4B333C5875A421CE3@FredsQuadLaptop> The 6 cylinder may have started life at 611 lbs, but I have verified that every time I pull the engine it has increased in weight by 57.23 lbs. Thus my engine now weighs in the range of 1532.3 lbs. Don't know the science behind this but I'm absolutely positive it has nothing to do with my age or frustrations. Y'all take care, Fred Team Healey Texas -----Original Message----- From: richard mayor Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:36 PM To: mikljmal at gmail.com ; cnaarndt at gmail.com Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine Wrong. 611 lbs is the weight of the 6 cylinder engine. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon > Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:45:39 -0400 > From: mikljmal at gmail.com > To: cnaarndt at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine > > Hi All; > Engine 611 lbs (277kg) > Gearbox std 79.5 lbs (36.027 kg) > Gearbox W/overdrive 117 lbs (52.907kg) > From workshop manual AKD 1179H > Mike Maloney 66 HLY > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > > > Peter, > > > > Don't quote me, but off the top of my head I believe it's 550 lbs. > > Supposedly more than a Ford 289 V8. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Curt > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Peter & Veronica > > wrote: > > > > > Gb day list > > > > > > Anyone know what a 100 engine (or engine & transmission) weighs? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Peter Linn > > > Brisbane Oz From eyera3000 at gmail.com Wed May 30 20:27:32 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:27:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine In-Reply-To: <30CB7076336649C4B333C5875A421CE3@FredsQuadLaptop> References: <48C2939711324AD486C61950DD550162@Notebook> <30CB7076336649C4B333C5875A421CE3@FredsQuadLaptop> Message-ID: LoL.... Too true On May 30, 2012 7:01 PM, "teamhealeytexas" wrote: > The 6 cylinder may have started life at 611 lbs, but I have verified that > every time I pull the engine it has increased in weight by 57.23 lbs. Thus > my engine now weighs in the range of 1532.3 lbs. Don't know the science > behind this but I'm absolutely positive it has nothing to do with my age or > frustrations. > > Y'all take care, > > Fred > Team Healey Texas > > -----Original Message----- From: richard mayor > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:36 PM > To: mikljmal at gmail.com ; cnaarndt at gmail.com > Cc: healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine > > Wrong. 611 lbs is the weight of the 6 cylinder engine. > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon > > > Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:45:39 -0400 >> From: mikljmal at gmail.com >> To: cnaarndt at gmail.com >> CC: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Weight of 100 engine >> >> Hi All; >> Engine 611 lbs (277kg) >> Gearbox std 79.5 lbs (36.027 kg) >> Gearbox W/overdrive 117 lbs (52.907kg) >> From workshop manual AKD 1179H >> Mike Maloney 66 HLY >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt >> > wrote: > >> >> > Peter, >> > >> > Don't quote me, but off the top of my head I believe it's 550 lbs. >> > Supposedly more than a Ford 289 V8. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Curt >> > >> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Peter & Veronica >> > **wrote: >> > >> > > Gb day list >> > > >> > > Anyone know what a 100 engine (or engine & transmission) weighs? >> > > >> > > Cheers >> > > >> > > Peter Linn >> > > Brisbane Oz >> > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/eyera3000@**gmail.com From ed at wadsworth-eng.com Thu May 31 07:07:53 2012 From: ed at wadsworth-eng.com (Ed O'Neal) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:07:53 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads Message-ID: Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug ingnition lead should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to travel from the distributor to the spark plug will be the same for each cylinder. From JPayne at ThorCon.net Thu May 31 08:02:10 2012 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:02:10 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C2161E3C1@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> WFS garage or WTF garage? Lets see, how long does it take to move 6" at the speed of light? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed O'Neal Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:08 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug ingnition lead should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to travel from the distributor to the spark plug will be the same for each cylinder. $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu May 31 08:08:44 2012 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:08:44 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FC77B6C.10206@chello.nl> That is absolute bullshit. Electricity travels with the speed of light, around 200.000mls/s. If you have carbon core resistor wires it is preferable but not necessary that the wires are of equal length because the resistance of each wire will be the same although it is not critical. With copper core wires without measurable resistance there is no reason why they should be of equal length. Kees Oudesluijs NL Op 31-5-2012 15:07, Ed O'Neal schreef: > Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug ingnition lead > should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to travel from the > distributor to the spark plug will be the same for each cylinder. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2012.0.1913 / Virusdatabase: 2425/5034 - datum van uitgifte: 05/30/12 > > -- Kees Oudesluijs Dorpsstraat 183 2995XG Heerjansdam T: 078-677 1233 E: coudesluijs at chello.nl Technische commissie Jensen Healey en GT Het Jensen Genootschap Holland www.jensenholland.nl From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu May 31 09:26:11 2012 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:26:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For those of you that are math inclined. Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second 186,000 miles per second = 982,080,000 feet per second 982,080,000 = 11,784,960,000 inches per second. That is eleven billion, seven hundred eighty four million, nine hundred sixty thousand inches in one second. Having one spark lead 1" longer will delay the spark by Are you ready for this? Are you sure? *0.000000000085 seconds.* *Holy shit, that is going to throw your timing on that cylinder all to hell. * On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Ed O'Neal wrote: > Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug ingnition lead > should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to travel from > the > distributor to the spark plug will be the same for each cylinder. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From frogeye at porterscustom.com Thu May 31 09:35:34 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:35:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] ignition leads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96535A50B75A4C7DAE2670CFED030A62@oscar> I'm impressed your calculator goes out to 16 decimal places..... dp frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Ewald Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:26 AM To: Ed O'Neal Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads For those of you that are math inclined. Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second 186,000 miles per second = 982,080,000 feet per second 982,080,000 = 11,784,960,000 inches per second. That is eleven billion, seven hundred eighty four million, nine hundred sixty thousand inches in one second. Having one spark lead 1" longer will delay the spark by Are you ready for this? Are you sure? *0.000000000085 seconds.* *Holy shit, that is going to throw your timing on that cylinder all to hell. * From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu May 31 09:37:35 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:37:35 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures. Message-ID: In preparation for my first competitive outing I took the car to a specialist with a rolling road to give it the once over generally and set everything for optimum performance. He is a well known guy in motor sport circles having prepared various Pro-rally teams cars as well as a lot of exotic classics including Miuras and Ferrari 250s. One of the reasons he got the rally prep jobs was because they were impressed that had the most accurately calibrated dyno, which translates to one that produces real, but lower figures than most of the others. My car has a BJ8 engine, twin HD8s, DWR8 'fast road cam, polished and ported iron head, six branch manifold, itg fast flow filter. Compression came in at 195 pretty much across the board and he thought the comp ratio would be around 10.5 : 1. Maximum ignition advance was 31 degrees initially but when we optimised the performance i think it was advanced a tiny bit further. I will check it's exact current setting when I get chance The result. Maximum power is 160 bhp at 5500 revs. Max torque is 158 ft/lbs at 3100 revs and stays flat until 4700. Torque is 140ft lbs at 1700 so there is a very broad and useable power band. I think we can safely say a stock BJ8 never produced 150 bhp! He told me that whenever he tests classic cars there is always a very large difference between reality and the bhp figures stated at the time. Derek www.healeysix.net From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu May 31 09:39:50 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:39:50 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ...and even more importantly, they look an absolute mess if they are all the same length! Derek On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > For those of you that are math inclined. > Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second > 186,000 miles per second = 982,080,000 feet per second > 982,080,000 = 11,784,960,000 inches per second. That is eleven billion, > seven hundred eighty four million, nine hundred sixty thousand inches in > one second. > Having one spark lead 1" longer will delay the spark by > Are you ready for this? > Are you sure? > *0.000000000085 seconds.* > *Holy shit, that is going to throw your timing on that cylinder all to > hell. > * > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Ed O'Neal wrote: > > > Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug ingnition > lead > > should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to travel > from > > the > > distributor to the spark plug will be the same for each cylinder. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu May 31 09:51:28 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars Healey Message-ID: <1338479488.44885.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Anyone see the episode with this BN7 this week: http://velocity.discovery.com/videos/chasing-classic-cars-1961-austin-healey. html Seller wanted $80k and Wayne thought it might go for over $100k. Bidding wasn't near the seller's price and he had to buy it back from the auction house. Car is now for sale at F40 Motorsports for $115k: http://www.f40.com/inventorymanager.php?action=view&Id=465029 Looks to be a beautiful car and maybe all that talk of the BN7 being rarer than the 100M is having an effect on asking prices? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com Thu May 31 09:52:02 2012 From: Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:52:02 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF6331E41C362@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> That is good for a chassis dyno. I had my BJ8 engine on the engine dyno after rebuild with stock BJ8 cam grind but long tube Kirk headers and the hp was 155. Quite close to the graph published by Geoff Healey in his book. My torque curve was a quite bit broader though, probably due to the headers which I think I feel in the seat of the pants as well. Ken -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Derek Job Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:38 AM To: Forum Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures. In preparation for my first competitive outing I took the car to a specialist with a rolling road to give it the once over generally and set everything for optimum performance. He is a well known guy in motor sport circles having prepared various Pro-rally teams cars as well as a lot of exotic classics including Miuras and Ferrari 250s. One of the reasons he got the rally prep jobs was because they were impressed that had the most accurately calibrated dyno, which translates to one that produces real, but lower figures than most of the others. My car has a BJ8 engine, twin HD8s, DWR8 'fast road cam, polished and ported iron head, six branch manifold, itg fast flow filter. Compression came in at 195 pretty much across the board and he thought the comp ratio would be around 10.5 : 1. Maximum ignition advance was 31 degrees initially but when we optimised the performance i think it was advanced a tiny bit further. I will check it's exact current setting when I get chance The result. Maximum power is 160 bhp at 5500 revs. Max torque is 158 ft/lbs at 3100 revs and stays flat until 4700. Torque is 140ft lbs at 1700 so there is a very broad and useable power band. I think we can safely say a stock BJ8 never produced 150 bhp! He told me that whenever he tests classic cars there is always a very large difference between reality and the bhp figures stated at the time. Derek www.healeysix.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/kendall.freese at aerojet.com From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu May 31 09:59:01 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:59:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <014301cd3f46$4c7837a0$e568a6e0$@verizon.net> Ok I'll bite. What is WFS Garage? When I google it I get WFS Country store which sells dog food and electronic dog fences. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Ewald Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:26 AM To: Ed O'Neal Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads For those of you that are math inclined. Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second 186,000 miles per second = 982,080,000 feet per second 982,080,000 = 11,784,960,000 inches per second. That is eleven billion, seven hundred eighty four million, nine hundred sixty thousand inches in one second. Having one spark lead 1" longer will delay the spark by Are you ready for this? Are you sure? *0.000000000085 seconds.* *Holy shit, that is going to throw your timing on that cylinder all to hell. * On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Ed O'Neal wrote: > Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug ingnition > lead should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to > travel from the distributor to the spark plug will be the same for > each cylinder. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu May 31 10:03:15 2012 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:03:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] ignition leads In-Reply-To: <96535A50B75A4C7DAE2670CFED030A62@oscar> References: <96535A50B75A4C7DAE2670CFED030A62@oscar> Message-ID: Gotta love the HP calculator app for my iPhone. Built in scientific notation. :-) Rick Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 8:35, "David Porter" wrote: > I'm impressed your calculator goes out to 16 decimal places..... > dp > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 > Porter Custom Bicycles > > cars: > www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html > gallery: > http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff > > GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Richard Ewald > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:26 AM > To: Ed O'Neal > Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads > > For those of you that are math inclined. > Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second > 186,000 miles per second = 982,080,000 feet per second > 982,080,000 = 11,784,960,000 inches per second. That is eleven billion, > seven hundred eighty four million, nine hundred sixty thousand inches in > one second. > Having one spark lead 1" longer will delay the spark by > Are you ready for this? > Are you sure? > *0.000000000085 seconds.* > *Holy shit, that is going to throw your timing on that cylinder all to > hell. > * From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu May 31 10:06:29 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:06:29 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: <014301cd3f46$4c7837a0$e568a6e0$@verizon.net> References: <014301cd3f46$4c7837a0$e568a6e0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: I wonder how fast the electricity goes through the dog fences? Derek On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:59 PM, John Sims wrote: > Ok I'll bite. What is WFS Garage? When I google it I get WFS Country store > which sells dog food and electronic dog fences. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Richard Ewald > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:26 AM > To: Ed O'Neal > Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads > > For those of you that are math inclined. > Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second > 186,000 miles per second = 982,080,000 feet per second > 982,080,000 = 11,784,960,000 inches per second. That is eleven billion, > seven hundred eighty four million, nine hundred sixty thousand inches in > one > second. > Having one spark lead 1" longer will delay the spark by Are you ready for > this? > Are you sure? > *0.000000000085 seconds.* > *Holy shit, that is going to throw your timing on that cylinder all to > hell. > > * > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Ed O'Neal wrote: > > > Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug ingnition > > lead should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to > > travel from the distributor to the spark plug will be the same for > > each cylinder. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > > donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu May 31 10:10:06 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1338480606.53491.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Derek, I'm sure the factory ratings were "optimistic", however they were also rated differently than your rolling road test. Factory numbers were obtained without any engine accessories on an engine dyno. The same engine on a rolling road would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-20% less powerful due to the parasitic losses of the driveline, engine accessories and silencers. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 5/31/12, Derek Job wrote: From: Derek Job Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures. To: "Forum" Date: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 11:37 AM In preparation for my first competitive outing I took the car to a specialist with a rolling road to give it the once over generally and set everything for optimum performance. He is a well known guy in motor sport circles having prepared various Pro-rally teams cars as well as a lot of exotic classics including Miuras and Ferrari 250s. One of the reasons he got the rally prep jobs was because they were impressed that had the most accurately calibrated dyno, which translates to one that produces real, but lower figures than most of the others. My car has a BJ8 engine, twin HD8s, DWR8 'fast road cam, polished and ported iron head, six branch manifold, itg fast flow filter. Compression came in at 195 pretty much across the board and he thought the comp ratio would be around 10.5 : 1. Maximum ignition advance was 31 degrees initially but when we optimised the performance i think it was advanced a tiny bit further. I will check it's exact current setting when I get chance The result. Maximum power is 160 bhp at 5500 revs. Max torque is 158 ft/lbs at 3100 revs and stays flat until 4700. Torque is 140ft lbs at 1700 so there is a very broad and useable power band. I think we can safely say a stock BJ8 never produced 150 bhp! He told me that whenever he tests classic cars there is always a very large difference between reality and the bhp figures stated at the time. Derek www.healeysix.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From phoenix722 at comcast.net Thu May 31 10:10:41 2012 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:10:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN Message-ID: <1F68C292ED60438E81B8FAF3E8272353@Mike> Educate me. Is there a BN3 or a BN5? Well, I guess that brings the question of what does BN stand for? I used to remember all this, but I forgot. Mike From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Thu May 31 10:15:04 2012 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (mark lapierre) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars Healey In-Reply-To: <1338479488.44885.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1338480904.77714.YahooMailClassic@web180102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I enjoy watching but it sure is better to watch him take the ht than myself. This new series seems to be leaning towards going to auction with no reserve or removing the reserve early. He seems to loose more than he gains on the auction circut but maybe thats just for the drama of the show. As for the Healey it seems that it makes more sense to go in with a reserve and remove it than to have no reserve and have to buy the car back and pay the service fee for your own car. Thats TV for ya. And who knows maybe the auction house gives Careenie a cut for putting them on his show. My all time fav was the British Leyland service van that Wayne bought and drove around for awhile. Sooooooo much nastalgia in that vehicle. Mark --- On Thu, 5/31/12, HealeyRick wrote: From: HealeyRick Subject: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars Healey To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 11:51 AM Anyone see the episode with this BN7 this week: http://velocity.discovery.com/videos/chasing-classic-cars-1961-austin-healey. html Seller wanted $80k and Wayne thought it might go for over $100k. Bidding wasn't near the seller's price and he had to buy it back from the auction house. Car is now for sale at F40 Motorsports for $115k: http://www.f40.com/inventorymanager.php?action=view&Id=465029 Looks to be a beautiful car and maybe all that talk of the BN7 being rarer than the 100M is having an effect on asking prices? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu May 31 10:17:56 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:17:56 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures. In-Reply-To: <1338480606.53491.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1338480606.53491.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Rick, Yes that's true so it's not a fair comparison. Plus of course the only hp that really matters I suppose, is that which finds its way to the wheels. And there goes another 20 to 30%! So I guess, at the wheels a stock BJ8 has about 95-100 hp. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:10 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Derek, > > I'm sure the factory ratings were "optimistic", however they were also > rated differently than your rolling road test. Factory numbers were > obtained without any engine accessories on an engine dyno. The same engine > on a rolling road would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-20% less > powerful due to the parasitic losses of the driveline, engine accessories > and silencers. > > Rick > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On *Thu, 5/31/12, Derek Job * wrote: > > > From: Derek Job > > Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures. > To: "Forum" > Date: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 11:37 AM > > In preparation for my first competitive outing I took the car to a > specialist with a rolling road to give it the once over generally and set > everything for optimum performance. He is a well known guy in motor sport > circles having prepared various Pro-rally teams cars as well as a lot of > exotic classics including Miuras and Ferrari 250s. One of the reasons he > got the rally prep jobs was because they were impressed that had the most > accurately calibrated dyno, which translates to one that produces real, but > lower figures than most of the others. > > My car has a BJ8 engine, twin HD8s, DWR8 'fast road cam, polished and > ported iron head, six branch manifold, itg fast flow filter. Compression > came in at 195 pretty much across the board and he thought the comp ratio > would be around 10.5 : 1. Maximum ignition advance was 31 degrees initially > but when we optimised the performance i think it was advanced a tiny bit > further. I will check it's exact current setting when I get chance > > The result. > > Maximum power is 160 bhp at 5500 revs. > > Max torque is 158 ft/lbs at 3100 revs and stays flat until 4700. > > Torque is 140ft lbs at 1700 so there is a very broad and useable power > band. > > I think we can safely say a stock BJ8 never produced 150 bhp! > > He told me that whenever he tests classic cars there is always a very > large difference between reality and the bhp figures stated at the time. > > Derek > www.healeysix.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu May 31 10:22:28 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars Healey- Fixed Links In-Reply-To: <1338479488.44885.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1338481348.17859.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> First Link: http://tinyurl.com/cutoqtx Second Link http://tinyurl.com/cswaam4 Rick --- On Thu, 5/31/12, HealeyRick wrote: From: HealeyRick Subject: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars Healey To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 11:51 AM Anyone see the episode with this BN7 this week: http://velocity.discovery.com/videos/chasing-classic-cars-1961-austin-healey. html Seller wanted $80k and Wayne thought it might go for over $100k. Bidding wasn't near the seller's price and he had to buy it back from the auction house. Car is now for sale at F40 Motorsports for $115k: http://www.f40.com/inventorymanager.php?action=view&Id=465029 Looks to be a beautiful car and maybe all that talk of the BN7 being rarer than the 100M is having an effect on asking prices? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From amalin at mac.com Thu May 31 10:27:44 2012 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:27:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: References: <014301cd3f46$4c7837a0$e568a6e0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <09ECCBE7-D875-4AEF-82FC-7FA183B4F99F@mac.com> How fast electricity goes through dog fences depends on whether you are talking about light years or dog years. Al On May 31, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Derek Job wrote: > I wonder how fast the electricity goes through the dog fences? > > Derek > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:59 PM, John Sims wrote: > >> Ok I'll bite. What is WFS Garage? When I google it I get WFS Country store >> which sells dog food and electronic dog fences. >> >> John Sims, BN6 >> Aberdeen, NJ >> >> http://www.healey6.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu May 31 10:27:59 2012 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:27:59 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FC79C0F.3040503@chello.nl> Back in those days they gave the power at the flywheel, without dynamo/alternator or any electrical load, I think even without water pump and oil pump. On the dyno you get the power on the rear wheels, sometimes it is calculated back to the flywheel, assuming a certain percentage of loss through the transmission. Thus the figures are not at all comparable. Kees Oudesluijs Op 31-5-2012 17:37, Derek Job schreef: > The result. > > Maximum power is 160 bhp at 5500 revs. > > Max torque is 158 ft/lbs at 3100 revs and stays flat until 4700. > > Torque is 140ft lbs at 1700 so there is a very broad and useable power > band. > > I think we can safely say a stock BJ8 never produced 150 bhp! > > He told me that whenever he tests classic cars there is always a very > large difference between reality and the bhp figures stated at the time. > > Derek > www.healeysix.net > > > -- Kees Oudesluijs Dorpsstraat 183 2995XG Heerjansdam T: 078-677 1233 E: coudesluijs at chello.nl Technische commissie Jensen Healey en GT Het Jensen Genootschap Holland www.jensenholland.nl From austin.healey at gmail.com Thu May 31 10:53:55 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 02:53:55 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures. In-Reply-To: <4FC79C0F.3040503@chello.nl> References: <4FC79C0F.3040503@chello.nl> Message-ID: <93BF3C58-71F5-483F-9B0B-9A233ED935ED@gmail.com> I think if the oil pump isn't in the engine, it would be a pretty short, and relatively expensive and noisy, dyno session.... ;-) Sent from my iPhone On 01/06/2012, at 2:27 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > Back in those days they gave the power at the flywheel, without dynamo/alternator or any electrical load, I think even without water pump and oil pump. > On the dyno you get the power on the rear wheels, sometimes it is calculated back to the flywheel, assuming a certain percentage of loss through the transmission. Thus the figures are not at all comparable. > Kees Oudesluijs > > Op 31-5-2012 17:37, Derek Job schreef: >> The result. >> >> Maximum power is 160 bhp at 5500 revs. >> >> Max torque is 158 ft/lbs at 3100 revs and stays flat until 4700. >> >> Torque is 140ft lbs at 1700 so there is a very broad and useable power >> band. >> >> I think we can safely say a stock BJ8 never produced 150 bhp! >> >> He told me that whenever he tests classic cars there is always a very >> large difference between reality and the bhp figures stated at the time. >> >> Derek >> www.healeysix.net From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu May 31 11:07:32 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:07:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN In-Reply-To: <1F68C292ED60438E81B8FAF3E8272353@Mike> References: <1F68C292ED60438E81B8FAF3E8272353@Mike> Message-ID: There is a BN3 down under in Australia. On May 31, 2012 9:10 AM, "Mike" wrote: > Educate me. Is there a BN3 or a BN5? Well, I guess that brings the > question > of what does BN stand for? > > I used to remember all this, but I forgot. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu May 31 11:22:39 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:22:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: <09ECCBE7-D875-4AEF-82FC-7FA183B4F99F@mac.com> References: <014301cd3f46$4c7837a0$e568a6e0$@verizon.net> <09ECCBE7-D875-4AEF-82FC-7FA183B4F99F@mac.com> Message-ID: <014d01cd3f51$fb796430$f26c2c90$@verizon.net> Ah, but to keep the pot boiling, a Light Year is a measurement of DISTANCE not time. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Al Malin Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:28 PM To: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads How fast electricity goes through dog fences depends on whether you are talking about light years or dog years. Al On May 31, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Derek Job wrote: > I wonder how fast the electricity goes through the dog fences? > > Derek > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:59 PM, John Sims wrote: > >> Ok I'll bite. What is WFS Garage? When I google it I get WFS Country >> store which sells dog food and electronic dog fences. >> >> John Sims, BN6 >> Aberdeen, NJ >> >> http://www.healey6.com $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu May 31 11:28:33 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:28:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN In-Reply-To: References: <1F68C292ED60438E81B8FAF3E8272353@Mike> Message-ID: <015101cd3f52$ceb44040$6c1cc0c0$@verizon.net> B equals engine displacement between 2000cc and 2999cc N equals two seat tourer (or roadster). The BN3's and 5's are explained here: http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/PQBN3.html John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:08 PM To: Mike Cc: Healey Forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN There is a BN3 down under in Australia. On May 31, 2012 9:10 AM, "Mike" wrote: > Educate me. Is there a BN3 or a BN5? Well, I guess that brings the > question of what does BN stand for? > > I used to remember all this, but I forgot. > > Mike From ed at wadsworth-eng.com Thu May 31 11:30:32 2012 From: ed at wadsworth-eng.com (Ed O'Neal) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:30:32 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: <014d01cd3f51$fb796430$f26c2c90$@verizon.net> References: <014301cd3f46$4c7837a0$e568a6e0$@verizon.net> <09ECCBE7-D875-4AEF-82FC-7FA183B4F99F@mac.com> <014d01cd3f51$fb796430$f26c2c90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Which also begs the question . . . if you have a doggy ignition system, would it run on dog years instead of light years? And if so would the differing lengths of ingnition wires become sufficiently significant to cause a poor ignition timing??? AH we come full circle. Could the WFS Garage have been right in the first place? -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:23 PM To: 'Al Malin'; 'Healey List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads Ah, but to keep the pot boiling, a Light Year is a measurement of DISTANCE not time. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Al Malin Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:28 PM To: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads How fast electricity goes through dog fences depends on whether you are talking about light years or dog years. Al On May 31, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Derek Job wrote: > I wonder how fast the electricity goes through the dog fences? > > Derek > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:59 PM, John Sims wrote: > >> Ok I'll bite. What is WFS Garage? When I google it I get WFS Country >> store which sells dog food and electronic dog fences. >> >> John Sims, BN6 >> Aberdeen, NJ >> >> http://www.healey6.com $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ed at wadsworth-eng.com From rnbmail at yahoo.com Thu May 31 11:31:51 2012 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1338485511.20815.YahooMailClassic@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Exactly. The error in the lobe profile of the distributor that triggers the points to open is a million times greater than the wire length error.... Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com --- On Thu, 5/31/12, Richard Ewald wrote: > From: Richard Ewald > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads > To: "Ed O'Neal" > Cc: "Healeys at autox.team.net" > Date: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 8:26 AM > For those of you that are math > inclined. > Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second > 186,000 miles per second = 982,080,000 feet per second > 982,080,000 = 11,784,960,000 inches per second. That > is eleven billion, > seven hundred eighty four million, nine hundred sixty > thousand inches in > one second. > Having one spark lead 1" longer will delay the spark by > Are you ready for this? > Are you sure? > *0.000000000085 seconds.* > *Holy shit, that is going to throw your timing on that > cylinder all to > hell. > * > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Ed O'Neal > wrote: > > > Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each > spark plug ingnition lead > > should be of the same length so that the time for the > spark to travel from > > the > > distributor to the spark plug will be the same for each > cylinder. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rnbmail at yahoo.com From phoenix722 at comcast.net Thu May 31 12:42:04 2012 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:42:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN References: <1F68C292ED60438E81B8FAF3E8272353@Mike> <015101cd3f52$ceb44040$6c1cc0c0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Thank you. Very interesting reading. I have a feeling a few "backsteps" were omitted about the restoration. But love triumphs all. Restoring a car is like restoring a house--every time you uncover something, you find more that needs redoing. Mike BN2 ============================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sims" To: "'I Erbs'" ; "'Mike'" Cc: "'Healey Forum'" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:28 AM Subject: RE: [Healeys] BN B equals engine displacement between 2000cc and 2999cc N equals two seat tourer (or roadster). The BN3's and 5's are explained here: http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/PQBN3.html John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:08 PM To: Mike Cc: Healey Forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN There is a BN3 down under in Australia. On May 31, 2012 9:10 AM, "Mike" wrote: > Educate me. Is there a BN3 or a BN5? Well, I guess that brings the > question of what does BN stand for? > > I used to remember all this, but I forgot. > > Mike From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu May 31 12:42:28 2012 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:42:28 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures. In-Reply-To: <93BF3C58-71F5-483F-9B0B-9A233ED935ED@gmail.com> References: <4FC79C0F.3040503@chello.nl> <93BF3C58-71F5-483F-9B0B-9A233ED935ED@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FC7BB94.9090709@chello.nl> It is not uncommon to feed the oil (pressurised), coolant, electricity from an external source to the engine on a testbed to be able to control all conditions like oil pressure and temperature, coolant temperature etc.. Kees Oudesluijs Op 31-5-2012 18:53, Chris Dimmock schreef: > I think if the oil pump isn't in the engine, it would be a pretty short, and relatively expensive and noisy, dyno session.... > ;-) > Sent from my iPhone > > On 01/06/2012, at 2:27 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > >> Back in those days they gave the power at the flywheel, without dynamo/alternator or any electrical load, I think even without water pump and oil pump. >> On the dyno you get the power on the rear wheels, sometimes it is calculated back to the flywheel, assuming a certain percentage of loss through the transmission. Thus the figures are not at all comparable. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> >> Op 31-5-2012 17:37, Derek Job schreef: >>> The result. >>> >>> Maximum power is 160 bhp at 5500 revs. >>> >>> Max torque is 158 ft/lbs at 3100 revs and stays flat until 4700. >>> >>> Torque is 140ft lbs at 1700 so there is a very broad and useable power >>> band. >>> >>> I think we can safely say a stock BJ8 never produced 150 bhp! >>> >>> He told me that whenever he tests classic cars there is always a very >>> large difference between reality and the bhp figures stated at the time. >>> >>> Derek >>> www.healeysix.net > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2012.0.1913 / Virusdatabase: 2425/5034 - datum van uitgifte: 05/30/12 > > > -- Kees Oudesluijs Dorpsstraat 183 2995XG Heerjansdam T: 078-677 1233 E: coudesluijs at chello.nl Technische commissie Jensen Healey en GT Het Jensen Genootschap Holland www.jensenholland.nl From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu May 31 12:43:03 2012 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:43:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: <014d01cd3f51$fb796430$f26c2c90$@verizon.net> References: <014301cd3f46$4c7837a0$e568a6e0$@verizon.net> <09ECCBE7-D875-4AEF-82FC-7FA183B4F99F@mac.com> <014d01cd3f51$fb796430$f26c2c90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Yes it is, but I didn't use a light year, I used the speed in miles per hour and converted to inches per second. From there is it trivial to see how long it takes to cover 1". :-) The time required to cover 2, 3 and 4 inches will be left as an exercise to the student. Rick On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:22 AM, John Sims wrote: > Ah, but to keep the pot boiling, a Light Year is a measurement of DISTANCE > not time. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Al Malin > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:28 PM > To: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads > > How fast electricity goes through dog fences depends on whether you are > talking about light years or dog years. > > Al > > > > On May 31, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Derek Job wrote: > > > I wonder how fast the electricity goes through the dog fences? > > > > Derek > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:59 PM, John Sims wrote: > > > >> Ok I'll bite. What is WFS Garage? When I google it I get WFS Country > >> store which sells dog food and electronic dog fences. > >> > >> John Sims, BN6 > >> Aberdeen, NJ > >> > >> http://www.healey6.com > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Thu May 31 12:43:52 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 04:43:52 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] BN In-Reply-To: <015101cd3f52$ceb44040$6c1cc0c0$@verizon.net> References: <1F68C292ED60438E81B8FAF3E8272353@Mike> <015101cd3f52$ceb44040$6c1cc0c0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: G'day Mike Yes Virginia there is a BN3. In fact the world is awash with BN3s, all two of them. The last time I looked there was BN3/1 in my garage and BN4/4 is at the Healey Museum in the Netherlands. However they are very different cars. And yes while N does mean a two seater, the BN3/1, besides being the first six-cylinder Austin-Healey built, is a four seater and in fact the first four seat Austin-Healey. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Friday, 1 June 2012 3:29 AM To: 'I Erbs'; 'Mike' Cc: 'Healey Forum' Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN B equals engine displacement between 2000cc and 2999cc N equals two seat tourer (or roadster). The BN3's and 5's are explained here: http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/PQBN3.html John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:08 PM To: Mike Cc: Healey Forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN There is a BN3 down under in Australia. On May 31, 2012 9:10 AM, "Mike" wrote: > Educate me. Is there a BN3 or a BN5? Well, I guess that brings the > question of what does BN stand for? > > I used to remember all this, but I forgot. > > Mike Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au From ampole at hotmail.com Thu May 31 12:59:11 2012 From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:59:11 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BHP - the real figures. In-Reply-To: References: , <1338480606.53491.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, , Message-ID: Derek sorry beg to differ : http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/684 377/Searchpage/2/Main/69376/Words/dyno/Search/true/Re_Rolling_Road_Setup#Post 684377 my bj8 with stock engine (head machined for unleaded), original dizzy with points, 45mm stainless twin pipes with no rear silencer (sorry Rich), only upgrade a sports coil (painted silver for Rich) ;) Peter at 70 now had his race mini miglia driver fall through so ran it himself and thrashed everyone: http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/topic/222546-peter-baldwin-races-his-min i-miglia-again/ your never too old!!! cheers Andy From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Thu May 31 13:02:26 2012 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 21:02:26 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures. In-Reply-To: <4FC7BB94.9090709@chello.nl> References: <4FC79C0F.3040503@chello.nl> <93BF3C58-71F5-483F-9B0B-9A233ED935ED@gmail.com> <4FC7BB94.9090709@chello.nl> Message-ID: Congratulations. 160bhps at the wheels is wonderfull. Though as menshioned before, factory numbers were given at the flywheel. Driveline loss for heilical-cut gearbox and 90 degree final drive may be 20-25%. Soo Your engine would produce the power of at least 200 "BMC" horses :D. Gergo 2012/5/31 Oudesluys > It is not uncommon to feed the oil (pressurised), coolant, electricity > from an external source to the engine on a testbed to be able to control > all conditions like oil pressure and temperature, coolant temperature etc.. > Kees Oudesluijs > > > Op 31-5-2012 18:53, Chris Dimmock schreef: > >> I think if the oil pump isn't in the engine, it would be a pretty short, >> and relatively expensive and noisy, dyno session.... >> ;-) >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 01/06/2012, at 2:27 AM, Oudesluys> >> wrote: >> >> Back in those days they gave the power at the flywheel, without >>> dynamo/alternator or any electrical load, I think even without water pump >>> and oil pump. >>> On the dyno you get the power on the rear wheels, sometimes it is >>> calculated back to the flywheel, assuming a certain percentage of loss >>> through the transmission. Thus the figures are not at all comparable. >>> Kees Oudesluijs >>> >>> Op 31-5-2012 17:37, Derek Job schreef: >>> >>>> The result. >>>> >>>> Maximum power is 160 bhp at 5500 revs. >>>> >>>> Max torque is 158 ft/lbs at 3100 revs and stays flat until 4700. >>>> >>>> Torque is 140ft lbs at 1700 so there is a very broad and useable power >>>> band. >>>> >>>> I think we can safely say a stock BJ8 never produced 150 bhp! >>>> >>>> He told me that whenever he tests classic cars there is always a very >>>> large difference between reality and the bhp figures stated at the time. >>>> >>>> Derek >>>> www.healeysix.net >>>> >>> >> ----- >> Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. >> Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com >> Versie: 2012.0.1913 / Virusdatabase: 2425/5034 - datum van uitgifte: >> 05/30/12 >> >> >> >> > > -- > Kees Oudesluijs > Dorpsstraat 183 > 2995XG Heerjansdam > T: 078-677 1233 > E: coudesluijs at chello.nl > > Technische commissie Jensen Healey en GT > Het Jensen Genootschap Holland > www.jensenholland.nl > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/pajtamuvek@**gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Thu May 31 13:29:27 2012 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 21:29:27 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: References: <014301cd3f46$4c7837a0$e568a6e0$@verizon.net> <09ECCBE7-D875-4AEF-82FC-7FA183B4F99F@mac.com> <014d01cd3f51$fb796430$f26c2c90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: They should be the same color not lenght IMHO. They look awfull if not the same. A few inches make no realy measurable differences in spart timing. G 2012/5/31 Richard Ewald > Yes it is, but I didn't use a light year, I used the speed in miles per > hour and converted to inches per second. From there is it trivial to see > how long it takes to cover 1". :-) > The time required to cover 2, 3 and 4 inches will be left as an exercise to > the student. > Rick > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:22 AM, John Sims wrote: > > > Ah, but to keep the pot boiling, a Light Year is a measurement of > DISTANCE > > not time. > > > > John Sims, BN6 > > Aberdeen, NJ > > > > http://www.healey6.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On Behalf Of Al Malin > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:28 PM > > To: Healey List > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads > > > > How fast electricity goes through dog fences depends on whether you are > > talking about light years or dog years. > > > > Al > > > > > > > > On May 31, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Derek Job wrote: > > > > > I wonder how fast the electricity goes through the dog fences? > > > > > > Derek > > > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:59 PM, John Sims wrote: > > > > > >> Ok I'll bite. What is WFS Garage? When I google it I get WFS Country > > >> store which sells dog food and electronic dog fences. > > >> > > >> John Sims, BN6 > > >> Aberdeen, NJ > > >> > > >> http://www.healey6.com > > $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu May 31 13:49:29 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:49:29 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures (contd) Message-ID: My message got bounced so I've started a new one. Just to be clear, my 160 bhp is at the flywheel not the wheels. To summarise my understanding - The factory 150bhp was at the flywheel with the engine but no ancillaries at all. So really more like 120-125 with ancillaries. - My back calculated 160 bhp is at the flywheel but with all the ancillaries included. - That difference seems reasonable given the cam and other modifications that my car is running. I have straight cut gears which I supposed helped a little in the back calculation. - Different dynos give different results. My guy said that cars he tested regularly showed 20 to 30 bhp less than the owners had obtained on other dynos. His comes in bang on with the factory when he tests brand new BMWs and Mercs. - You can deduct another 20-25% or so from the above numbers to arrive at the rear wheel bhp numbers. Andy, I would be very surprised if your stock car is really making that 150bhp at 5000 revs. Derek From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu May 31 13:51:33 2012 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:51:33 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] BN In-Reply-To: References: <1F68C292ED60438E81B8FAF3E8272353@Mike> <015101cd3f52$ceb44040$6c1cc0c0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: The BN3 and BN4 are incorrectly named if you exactly follow the logic of the BMC code system. They should have been BT's Derek On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > G'day Mike > > Yes Virginia there is a BN3. In fact the world is awash with BN3s, all two > of them. > > The last time I looked there was BN3/1 in my garage and BN4/4 is at the > Healey Museum in the Netherlands. However they are very different cars. > > And yes while N does mean a two seater, the BN3/1, besides being the first > six-cylinder Austin-Healey built, is a four seater and in fact the first > four seat Austin-Healey. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of John Sims > Sent: Friday, 1 June 2012 3:29 AM > To: 'I Erbs'; 'Mike' > Cc: 'Healey Forum' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN > > B equals engine displacement between 2000cc and 2999cc N equals two seat > tourer (or roadster). The BN3's and 5's are explained here: > http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/PQBN3.html > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:08 PM > To: Mike > Cc: Healey Forum > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN > > There is a BN3 down under in Australia. > On May 31, 2012 9:10 AM, "Mike" wrote: > > > Educate me. Is there a BN3 or a BN5? Well, I guess that brings the > > question of what does BN stand for? > > > > I used to remember all this, but I forgot. > > > > Mike > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From ampole at hotmail.com Thu May 31 14:16:18 2012 From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:16:18 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures (contd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Derek I stripped the engine, checked her over, and except for changing a few push rods, I took the head to Newark Engineering for the valve seat work, and rebuilt, it all looked too good to waste money. The figures I gave, I still have the photos somewhere, I just sat in it and he told me which gear and when to floor it! I made notes off all the equipment and readings just as I did last week with a full suspension setup at my local Subaru specialist (they do my 265bhp scooby). The second run wasnt that good as I left the handbrake on! As I put on the forum he double checked the peak bhp as the first setting on the scale only went from 0-150bhp and it was reading top scale so he reset to the next scale to double check. I just wanted to get her setup correctly, as lets face it she's not going to be driven as hard as my scooby or Ducati 996! Its a different kind of fun. Try looking up Peter Baldwin, knows more about rolling roads and SU's than most ! Have to admit she goes well, first long run out this week as took car to have hood fitted on Tuesday, and picked her up today, sits nicely at 80mph on m6/m69 :) cheers Andy From alexmm at roadrunner.com Thu May 31 14:46:23 2012 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:46:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads References: <014301cd3f46$4c7837a0$e568a6e0$@verizon.net><09ECCBE7-D875-4AEF-82FC-7FA183B4F99F@mac.com><014d01cd3f51$fb796430$f26c2c90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Actually, there is a slight error in these calculations. Every cable, wire, circuit board conductor, waveguide, optical fibre, etc. offers a slight delay to a propagating electrical signal traveling along the wire. This delay is called the velocity factor. Learn more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_propagation_speed For example, in a coaxial cable, the VF is usually 0.66 or so, which means when calculating length for an application based on the speed of light, you assume the speed of light is reduced by about a third. Manufacturers of these cables supply the VF as a spec. Hee hee! == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 M.G. TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ewald" To: "John Sims" Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads > Yes it is, but I didn't use a light year, I used the speed in miles per > hour and converted to inches per second. From there is it trivial to see > how long it takes to cover 1". :-) > The time required to cover 2, 3 and 4 inches will be left as an exercise > to > the student. > Rick From JPayne at ThorCon.net Thu May 31 14:53:04 2012 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:53:04 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: References: <014301cd3f46$4c7837a0$e568a6e0$@verizon.net><09ECCBE7-D875-4AEF-82FC-7FA183B4F99F@mac.com><014d01cd3f51$fb796430$f26c2c90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C2161EE48@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> The delay would be the same for each wire regardless of length as I understand it (which very well could be wrong) , so the travel time as a ratio of length is still accurate. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alex Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:46 PM To: Richard Ewald; John Sims Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads Actually, there is a slight error in these calculations. Every cable, wire, circuit board conductor, waveguide, optical fibre, etc. offers a slight delay to a propagating electrical signal traveling along the wire. This delay is called the velocity factor. Learn more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_propagation_speed For example, in a coaxial cable, the VF is usually 0.66 or so, which means when calculating length for an application based on the speed of light, you assume the speed of light is reduced by about a third. Manufacturers of these cables supply the VF as a spec. Hee hee! == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 M.G. TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ewald" To: "John Sims" Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads > Yes it is, but I didn't use a light year, I used the speed in miles per > hour and converted to inches per second. From there is it trivial to see > how long it takes to cover 1". :-) > The time required to cover 2, 3 and 4 inches will be left as an exercise > to > the student. > Rick Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net From alexmm at roadrunner.com Thu May 31 14:54:00 2012 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:54:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads References: <014301cd3f46$4c7837a0$e568a6e0$@verizon.net><09ECCBE7-D875-4AEF-82FC-7FA183B4F99F@mac.com><014d01cd3f51$fb796430$f26c2c90$@verizon.net> <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C2161EE48@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <7C098A3293A04C2EA3623D58EDB34888@atc0f226cd3237> The length is a factor in calculating VF delays. == Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Payne" To: "'Alex'" ; "'Richard Ewald'" ; "'John Sims'" Cc: "'Healey List'" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:53 PM Subject: RE: [Healeys] ingnition leads The delay would be the same for each wire regardless of length as I understand it (which very well could be wrong) , so the travel time as a ratio of length is still accurate. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alex Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:46 PM To: Richard Ewald; John Sims Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads Actually, there is a slight error in these calculations. Every cable, wire, circuit board conductor, waveguide, optical fibre, etc. offers a slight delay to a propagating electrical signal traveling along the wire. This delay is called the velocity factor. Learn more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_propagation_speed For example, in a coaxial cable, the VF is usually 0.66 or so, which means when calculating length for an application based on the speed of light, you assume the speed of light is reduced by about a third. Manufacturers of these cables supply the VF as a spec. Hee hee! == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 M.G. TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ewald" To: "John Sims" Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads > Yes it is, but I didn't use a light year, I used the speed in miles per > hour and converted to inches per second. From there is it trivial to see > how long it takes to cover 1". :-) > The time required to cover 2, 3 and 4 inches will be left as an exercise > to > the student. > Rick Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net From JPayne at ThorCon.net Thu May 31 14:56:18 2012 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:56:18 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: <7C098A3293A04C2EA3623D58EDB34888@atc0f226cd3237> References: <014301cd3f46$4c7837a0$e568a6e0$@verizon.net><09ECCBE7-D875-4AEF-82FC-7FA183B4F99F@mac.com><014d01cd3f51$fb796430$f26c2c90$@verizon.net> <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C2161EE48@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> <7C098A3293A04C2EA3623D58EDB34888@atc0f226cd3237> Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C2161EE65@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> 10-4 Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: Alex [mailto:alexmm at roadrunner.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:54 PM To: Jonas Payne; 'Richard Ewald'; 'John Sims' Cc: 'Healey List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads The length is a factor in calculating VF delays. == Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Payne" To: "'Alex'" ; "'Richard Ewald'" ; "'John Sims'" Cc: "'Healey List'" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:53 PM Subject: RE: [Healeys] ingnition leads The delay would be the same for each wire regardless of length as I understand it (which very well could be wrong) , so the travel time as a ratio of length is still accurate. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alex Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:46 PM To: Richard Ewald; John Sims Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads Actually, there is a slight error in these calculations. Every cable, wire, circuit board conductor, waveguide, optical fibre, etc. offers a slight delay to a propagating electrical signal traveling along the wire. This delay is called the velocity factor. Learn more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_propagation_speed For example, in a coaxial cable, the VF is usually 0.66 or so, which means when calculating length for an application based on the speed of light, you assume the speed of light is reduced by about a third. Manufacturers of these cables supply the VF as a spec. Hee hee! == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 M.G. TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ewald" To: "John Sims" Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads > Yes it is, but I didn't use a light year, I used the speed in miles per > hour and converted to inches per second. From there is it trivial to see > how long it takes to cover 1". :-) > The time required to cover 2, 3 and 4 inches will be left as an exercise > to > the student. > Rick Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net From kentmclean at comcast.net Thu May 31 15:14:53 2012 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:14:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FC7DF4D.1050906@comcast.net> Kees Oudesluijs wrote: > That is absolute bullshit. Kees, your English is superb. :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu May 31 15:54:58 2012 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:54:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8743B76A-2227-4642-B38C-56B25C6932C3@sbcglobal.net> So with these calculations we had better add some wire to the front marker lights so that the from marker lights, tail lights and dash lights do not have any delays in coming on. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On May 31, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Richard Ewald wrote: > For those of you that are math inclined. > Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second > 186,000 miles per second = 982,080,000 feet per second > 982,080,000 = 11,784,960,000 inches per second. That is eleven > billion, > seven hundred eighty four million, nine hundred sixty thousand > inches in > one second. > Having one spark lead 1" longer will delay the spark by > Are you ready for this? > Are you sure? > *0.000000000085 seconds.* > *Holy shit, that is going to throw your timing on that cylinder all to > hell. > * > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Ed O'Neal > wrote: > >> Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug >> ingnition lead >> should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to >> travel from >> the >> distributor to the spark plug will be the same for each cylinder. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From bighealey at charter.net Thu May 31 16:00:59 2012 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 22:00:59 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: <8743B76A-2227-4642-B38C-56B25C6932C3@sbcglobal.net> References: <8743B76A-2227-4642-B38C-56B25C6932C3@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1843597601-1338501660-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1358714667-@b2.c9.bise6.blackberry> Good dave. Just don't blink. Sent on the Sprint. Now Network from my BlackBerry. -----Original Message----- From: David Nock Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:54:58 To: Richard Ewald Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads So with these calculations we had better add some wire to the front marker lights so that the from marker lights, tail lights and dash lights do not have any delays in coming on. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On May 31, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Richard Ewald wrote: > For those of you that are math inclined. > Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second > 186,000 miles per second = 982,080,000 feet per second > 982,080,000 = 11,784,960,000 inches per second. That is eleven > billion, > seven hundred eighty four million, nine hundred sixty thousand > inches in > one second. > Having one spark lead 1" longer will delay the spark by > Are you ready for this? > Are you sure? > *0.000000000085 seconds.* > *Holy shit, that is going to throw your timing on that cylinder all to > hell. > * > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Ed O'Neal > wrote: > >> Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug >> ingnition lead >> should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to >> travel from >> the >> distributor to the spark plug will be the same for each cylinder. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu May 31 16:04:48 2012 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:04:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: <8743B76A-2227-4642-B38C-56B25C6932C3@sbcglobal.net> References: <8743B76A-2227-4642-B38C-56B25C6932C3@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Actually this is only a problem if someone is standing off to the side. Otherwise they can't see both the front and rear at the same time. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:54 PM, David Nock wrote: > So with these calculations we had better add some wire to the front marker > lights so that the from marker lights, tail lights and dash lights do not > have any delays in coming on. > > > > > David Nock > > British Car Specialists > > Stockton Ca 95205 > > 209-948-8767 > > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > . > > . From alexmm at roadrunner.com Thu May 31 17:08:46 2012 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:08:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads References: <8743B76A-2227-4642-B38C-56B25C6932C3@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <34851C15C2154664B64F239FF41B72A6@atc0f226cd3237> Also, if we're barelling down the road at speed, we have to figure the delays as explained by Einstein's relativity theory. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Nock" To: "Richard Ewald" Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads > So with these calculations we had better add some wire to the front > marker lights so that the from marker lights, tail lights and dash > lights do not have any delays in coming on. > > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . > . > > On May 31, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Richard Ewald wrote: > >> For those of you that are math inclined. >> Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second >> 186,000 miles per second = 982,080,000 feet per second >> 982,080,000 = 11,784,960,000 inches per second. That is eleven >> billion, >> seven hundred eighty four million, nine hundred sixty thousand >> inches in >> one second. >> Having one spark lead 1" longer will delay the spark by >> Are you ready for this? >> Are you sure? >> *0.000000000085 seconds.* >> *Holy shit, that is going to throw your timing on that cylinder all to >> hell. >> * >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Ed O'Neal >> wrote: >> >>> Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug >>> ingnition lead >>> should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to >>> travel from >>> the >>> distributor to the spark plug will be the same for each cylinder. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ >> healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alexmm at roadrunner.com From glemon at neb.rr.com Thu May 31 17:34:01 2012 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:34:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The WFS Garage?, are your sure it is not the WTF Garage? Cheerz " Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug ingnition lead > should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to travel from > the > distributor to the spark plug will be the same for each cylinder." From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Thu May 31 17:49:04 2012 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Chasing Classic Cars Healey- Fixed Links Message-ID: <1338508144.56387.BPMail_high_carrier@web130206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Without having seen the video I'm wondering what effect the RHD spec is having on the price? Best JK From al at bighealey.org Thu May 31 18:00:47 2012 From: al at bighealey.org (Al Fuller) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:00:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] ignition leads In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C2161E3C1@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> References: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C2161E3C1@ex1mbx02.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <005a01cd3f89$9f0d97b0$dd28c710$@org> Well, let's see - it's about one foot per nano-second, so those 6 inches would cost you about a half-nanosecond... Al Fuller al at bighealey dot org '62 BT-7 '65 BJ-8 '85 Rx-7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jonas Payne Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:02 AM To: 'Ed O'Neal'; 'Healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads WFS garage or WTF garage? Lets see, how long does it take to move 6" at the speed of light? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed O'Neal Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:08 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug ingnition lead should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to travel from the distributor to the spark plug will be the same for each cylinder. $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/al at bighealey.org From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Thu May 31 18:09:39 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:09:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Re: ingnition leads Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120531170927.020eece0@pop.att.yahoo.com> >Not true! > >At a great enough height one would be able to see the front and rear >lights at the same time if one is tall enough, standing or stilts or >say a bridge. > >Would someone calculate the minimum height necessary so this can be >tested and verified? > >Thank you, >John > >At 03:04 PM 5/31/2012 -0700, you wrote: >>Actually this is only a problem if someone is standing off to the side. >>Otherwise they can't see both the front and rear at the same time. From al at bighealey.org Thu May 31 18:13:44 2012 From: al at bighealey.org (Al Fuller) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:13:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] ignition leads In-Reply-To: References: <8743B76A-2227-4642-B38C-56B25C6932C3@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <005b01cd3f8b$691fd3f0$3b5f7bd0$@org> No, no - it's a FEATURE! The differential wire lengths allow the lights to come on at slightly delayed times, easing the initial load on the circuit. Al Fuller al at bighealey dot org '62 BT-7 '65 BJ-8 '85 Rx-7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Ewald Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:05 PM To: David Nock Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads Actually this is only a problem if someone is standing off to the side. Otherwise they can't see both the front and rear at the same time. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:54 PM, David Nock wrote: > So with these calculations we had better add some wire to the front > marker lights so that the from marker lights, tail lights and dash > lights do not have any delays in coming on. > > > > > David Nock > > British Car Specialists > > Stockton Ca 95205 > > 209-948-8767 > > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > . > > . $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/al at bighealey.org From al at bighealey.org Thu May 31 18:15:34 2012 From: al at bighealey.org (Al Fuller) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:15:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] ignition leads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005c01cd3f8b$aae4fc70$00aef550$@org> If it wasn't the WTF Garage to begin with, our various comments have made it so! [hee, hee...] Al Fuller al at bighealey dot org '62 BT-7 '65 BJ-8 '85 Rx-7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:34 PM To: Ed O'Neal; Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads The WFS Garage?, are your sure it is not the WTF Garage? Cheerz " Just a tidbit of info from the WFS Garage. Each spark plug ingnition lead > should be of the same length so that the time for the spark to travel > from the distributor to the spark plug will be the same for each > cylinder." $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/al at bighealey.org From bce257 at yahoo.co.nz Thu May 31 20:22:57 2012 From: bce257 at yahoo.co.nz (Andrew Thorp) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures (contd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1338517377.44635.YahooMailClassic@web160301.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I recently did some dynoing of a BN4 gallery head engine as part of my rebuild. Stock engine gave about 80hp at the gearbox output flange in 4th gear and after a little fettling I got 106hp. The factory claim of 142lbft torque is fanciful, the hp figure of 102 is optimistic at best. Stock baseline runs were done with a different engine that had never been apart from new but was in good health. All runs done on an waterbrake dyno mounted in the old chassis and calibration was checked each day. Graphs and videos of the testing here http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/846 675 Andy. --- On Fri, 1/6/12, Derek Job wrote: > From: Derek Job > Subject: [Healeys] BHP - the real figures (contd) > To: "Forum" > Received: Friday, 1 June, 2012, 7:49 AM > My message got bounced so I've > started a new one. > > Just to be clear, my 160 bhp is at the flywheel not the > wheels. > > To summarise my understanding > > - The factory 150bhp was at the flywheel with the engine but > no ancillaries > at all. So really more like 120-125 with ancillaries. > > - My back calculated 160 bhp is at the flywheel but > with all the > ancillaries included. > > - That difference seems reasonable given the cam and other > modifications > that my car is running. I have straight cut gears which I > supposed helped a > little in the back calculation. > > - Different dynos give different results. My guy said that > cars he tested > regularly showed 20 to 30 bhp less than the owners had > obtained on other > dynos. His comes in bang on with the factory when he tests > brand new BMWs > and Mercs. > > - You can deduct another 20-25% or so from the above numbers > to arrive at > the rear wheel bhp numbers. > > Andy, I would be very surprised if your stock car is really > making that > 150bhp at 5000 revs. > > Derek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bce257 at yahoo.co.nz From bspidell at comcast.net Thu May 31 22:06:27 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 04:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1347379115.1087375.1338523587520.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Electricity only travels at 95-97% of the speed of light through unshielded copper wire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_electricity) That'll make a huge difference. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ewald" To: "Ed O'Neal" Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:26:11 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] ingnition leads For those of you that are math inclined. Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second 186,000 miles per second = 982,080,000 feet per second 982,080,000 = 11,784,960,000 inches per second. That is eleven billion, seven hundred eighty four million, nine hundred sixty thousand inches in one second. Having one spark lead 1" longer will delay the spark by Are you ready for this? Are you sure? *0.000000000085 seconds.* *Holy shit, that is going to throw your timing on that cylinder all to hell. * From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Thu May 31 23:39:00 2012 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 22:39:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] ingnition leads In-Reply-To: <1347379115.1087375.1338523587520.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1347379115.1087375.1338523587520.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Electricity only travels at 95-97% of the speed of light through unshielded copper wire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_electricity) > > That'll make a huge difference. NOW THAT WAS FUNNY!! :) RON