From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Jan 1 13:41:58 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 12:41:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Record Healey Price! Message-ID: <1325450518.8214.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I knew they appreciated, but whew! http://tinyurl.com/8xcezem Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Jan 1 14:52:15 2012 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 16:52:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Record Healey Price! In-Reply-To: <1325450518.8214.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20120101165215.GRDWE.84840.root@pamxwww06-z01> laughable really. ---- HealeyRick wrote: ============= I knew they appreciated, but whew! http://tinyurl.com/8xcezem Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jan 1 14:58:58 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:58:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Record Healey Price! In-Reply-To: <20120101165215.GRDWE.84840.root@pamxwww06-z01> References: <20120101165215.GRDWE.84840.root@pamxwww06-z01> Message-ID: <4F00D722.3070101@comcast.net> Wow. Imagine if the Barbie Healey was a 100S. On 1/1/2012 1:52 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > laughable really. > > > ---- HealeyRick wrote: > > ============= > I knew they appreciated, but whew! http://tinyurl.com/8xcezem > > Rick > > > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Jan 1 15:33:45 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 17:33:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Record Healey Price! In-Reply-To: <4F00D722.3070101@comcast.net> References: <20120101165215.GRDWE.84840.root@pamxwww06-z01> <4F00D722.3070101@comcast.net> Message-ID: <006001ccc8d5$6c8b4ec0$45a1ec40$@verizon.net> OMG. I have one in my storage cabinet in the box that I got on eBay a couple of years ago for about twenty bucks. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 4:59 PM To: Tom Felts Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Record Healey Price! Wow. Imagine if the Barbie Healey was a 100S. On 1/1/2012 1:52 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > laughable really. > > > ---- HealeyRick wrote: > > ============= > I knew they appreciated, but whew! http://tinyurl.com/8xcezem > > Rick > > > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sun Jan 1 17:59:34 2012 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 16:59:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Record Healey Price! In-Reply-To: <20120101165215.GRDWE.84840.root@pamxwww06-z01> References: <1325450518.8214.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <20120101165215.GRDWE.84840.root@pamxwww06-z01> Message-ID: > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 16:52:15 -0500 > From: tomfelts at windstream.net > To: healeyrick at yahoo.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Record Healey Price! > Humm. One third the original selling price of the real car. Rich Kahn > laughable really. > > > ---- HealeyRick wrote: > > ============= > I knew they appreciated, but whew! http://tinyurl.com/8xcezem > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From rvmaylor at shaw.ca Sun Jan 1 21:06:43 2012 From: rvmaylor at shaw.ca (rvmaylor at shaw.ca) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 21:06:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <001f01ccc818$6bc9a850$435cf8f0$@net> References: <1410827724.272070.1325373933838.JavaMail.root@sz0050a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <8CE962D5BF7848B-154C-400AC@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com> <001f01ccc818$6bc9a850$435cf8f0$@net> Message-ID: <0D03E6B515F44C858945AEEE8A531767@ownerPC> Hi all, To start off the year on a good note here is another Healey (1958 100-Six, BN6L755) just back on the road after 21 years. Back in 1989 the brakes were a wee bit shawdy so I started taking pieces off the car and before I knew it a full blown restoration was underway. New sills, outriggers, floors, engine rebuild, rust removal, panel repairs. Crap, I was in over my head, financially and skill wise. School, other cars, overseas work, houses, a wife and kids all conspired over the years to slow the rebuild but it continued in fits and starts and finally it is complete....? It's only trip so far is up and down the back lane and it will hibernate until spring when it can be really called 'back on the road'. Everything is back to original including the brakes, which still are a wee bit shawdy. Please visit the photo site below if you think a rebuild of a stock 100 Six is of interest. http://www.flickr.com/photos/100-6/show/ Happy New Year Ross Maylor Calgary Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rich Chrysler Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:00 PM To: healeyguy at aol.com ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy New Year Here's wishing the many friends we've met on this wonderful list a happy and prosperous New Year. Let's all try to get more Healeys back on the road to enjoy many more pleasurable miles in 2012. Rich Chrysler Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rvmaylor at shaw.ca From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jan 1 21:47:41 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:47:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <0D03E6B515F44C858945AEEE8A531767@ownerPC> References: <1410827724.272070.1325373933838.JavaMail.root@sz0050a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <8CE962D5BF7848B-154C-400AC@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com> <001f01ccc818$6bc9a850$435cf8f0$@net> <0D03E6B515F44C858945AEEE8A531767@ownerPC> Message-ID: <000301ccc909$a919c9f0$fb4d5dd0$@net> Ross, Beautiful job. Congratulations. Rich Chrysler -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rvmaylor at shaw.ca Sent: 2012-01-01 11:07 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy New Year Hi all, To start off the year on a good note here is another Healey (1958 100-Six, BN6L755) just back on the road after 21 years. Back in 1989 the brakes were a wee bit shawdy so I started taking pieces off the car and before I knew it a full blown restoration was underway. New sills, outriggers, floors, engine rebuild, rust removal, panel repairs. Crap, I was in over my head, financially and skill wise. School, other cars, overseas work, houses, a wife and kids all conspired over the years to slow the rebuild but it continued in fits and starts and finally it is complete....? It's only trip so far is up and down the back lane and it will hibernate until spring when it can be really called 'back on the road'. Everything is back to original including the brakes, which still are a wee bit shawdy. Please visit the photo site below if you think a rebuild of a stock 100 Six is of interest. http://www.flickr.com/photos/100-6/show/ Happy New Year Ross Maylor Calgary Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rich Chrysler Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:00 PM To: healeyguy at aol.com ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy New Year Here's wishing the many friends we've met on this wonderful list a happy and prosperous New Year. Let's all try to get more Healeys back on the road to enjoy many more pleasurable miles in 2012. Rich Chrysler Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rvmaylor at shaw.ca $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Sun Jan 1 22:16:15 2012 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 00:16:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Happy New Year Message-ID: <17838.56096a93.3c32979f@aol.com> Very cool, thanks for the show and have fun "back on the road". Congratulations. Steven Kingsbury In a message dated 1/1/2012 8:16:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rvmaylor at shaw.ca writes: Hi all, To start off the year on a good note here is another Healey (1958 100-Six, BN6L755) just back on the road after 21 years. Back in 1989 the brakes were a wee bit shawdy so I started taking pieces off the car and before I knew it a full blown restoration was underway. New sills, outriggers, floors, engine rebuild, rust removal, panel repairs. Crap, I was in over my head, financially and skill wise. School, other cars, overseas work, houses, a wife and kids all conspired over the years to slow the rebuild but it continued in fits and starts and finally it is complete....? It's only trip so far is up and down the back lane and it will hibernate until spring when it can be really called 'back on the road'. Everything is back to original including the brakes, which still are a wee bit shawdy. Please visit the photo site below if you think a rebuild of a stock 100 Six is of interest. http://www.flickr.com/photos/100-6/show/ Happy New Year Ross Maylor Calgary Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rich Chrysler Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:00 PM To: healeyguy at aol.com ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy New Year Here's wishing the many friends we've met on this wonderful list a happy and prosperous New Year. Let's all try to get more Healeys back on the road to enjoy many more pleasurable miles in 2012. Rich Chrysler Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rvmaylor at shaw.ca Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/atightprod at aol.com From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Jan 1 22:54:04 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 21:54:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <0D03E6B515F44C858945AEEE8A531767@ownerPC> References: <1410827724.272070.1325373933838.JavaMail.root@sz0050a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <8CE962D5BF7848B-154C-400AC@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com> <001f01ccc818$6bc9a850$435cf8f0$@net> <0D03E6B515F44C858945AEEE8A531767@ownerPC> Message-ID: Great photos. Looking good. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jan 1, 2012 8:06 PM, wrote: > Hi all, > > To start off the year on a good note here is another Healey (1958 100-Six, > BN6L755) just back on the road after 21 years. > Back in 1989 the brakes were a wee bit shawdy so I started taking pieces > off the car and before I knew it > a full blown restoration was underway. New sills, outriggers, floors, > engine rebuild, rust removal, panel repairs. > Crap, I was in over my head, financially and skill wise. School, other > cars, overseas work, houses, a wife and kids all conspired over the years > to slow the rebuild but it continued in fits and starts and finally it is > complete....? > It's only trip so far is up and down the back lane and it will hibernate > until spring when it can be really called 'back on the road'. > Everything is back to original including the brakes, which still are a wee > bit shawdy. > > Please visit the photo site below if you think a rebuild of a stock 100 > Six is of interest. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/**100-6/show/ > > Happy New Year > > Ross Maylor > Calgary Canada > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Rich Chrysler > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:00 PM > To: healeyguy at aol.com ; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy New Year > > Here's wishing the many friends we've met on this wonderful list a happy > and > prosperous New Year. Let's all try to get more Healeys back on the road to > enjoy many more pleasurable miles in 2012. > > Rich Chrysler > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/healeys/rvmaylor at shaw.**ca______________________________ > **_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/eyera3000@**gmail.com From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Mon Jan 2 04:21:24 2012 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:21:24 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Rear reflectors Message-ID: <000001ccc940$ab98a7a0$02c9f6e0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Happy New Year to you all. Just to share something....... I've recently wired 12 volt bulbs into the brake/indicator lighting in my MII BT7's rear reflectors. Since the rubber backing was probably original and pretty grotty, I bought a new pair. I took these apart, expecting them to be pretty much the same as the originals. Well, they were and, mostly, the parts were interchangeable. But - and I think it's a BIG BUT - there was no reflective foil in the new pair. Correct me on the physics if I'm wrong, but I presume that the car behind's light beams go into the reflectors, hit the foil and come back as a nice little red reflected glow. Bit like a mirror? So, if there's no foil, the light hits the black rubber and stays there? Seems likely to me. Seems that a reflector without foil is about as practical as a chocolate teapot?? Our cars are none too visible at night with everything 100%. Something to think about?? I've emailed the supplier and await a response. Any comments out there? Simon From mgtd51 at comcast.net Mon Jan 2 06:00:17 2012 From: mgtd51 at comcast.net (Larry Swift) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 08:00:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rear reflectors In-Reply-To: <000001ccc940$ab98a7a0$02c9f6e0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <000001ccc940$ab98a7a0$02c9f6e0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <008c01ccc94e$7a562600$6f027200$@net> You could install the reflective material yourself. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 6:21 AM To: 'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Rear reflectors Happy New Year to you all. Just to share something....... I've recently wired 12 volt bulbs into the brake/indicator lighting in my MII BT7's rear reflectors. Since the rubber backing was probably original and pretty grotty, I bought a new pair. I took these apart, expecting them to be pretty much the same as the originals. Well, they were and, mostly, the parts were interchangeable. But - and I think it's a BIG BUT - there was no reflective foil in the new pair. Correct me on the physics if I'm wrong, but I presume that the car behind's light beams go into the reflectors, hit the foil and come back as a nice little red reflected glow. Bit like a mirror? So, if there's no foil, the light hits the black rubber and stays there? Seems likely to me. Seems that a reflector without foil is about as practical as a chocolate teapot?? Our cars are none too visible at night with everything 100%. Something to think about?? I've emailed the supplier and await a response. Any comments out there? Simon Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgtd51 at comcast.net From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 06:18:55 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:18:55 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Rear reflectors In-Reply-To: <4f0194a0.4610440a.4c50.36b9SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <4f0194a0.4610440a.4c50.36b9SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Simon - All the new plastic reflectors don't have the foil. Some are painted silver on the back, but usually the modern plastic has an angle of incidence whereby the light, when it strikes the triangular back, is reflected back out again. Take the reflector a check it at night with a flashlight, you'll be surprised. You likely don't need the foil there. Alan On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Simon Lachlan wrote: > Happy New Year to you all. > > Just to share something....... > > > > I've recently wired 12 volt bulbs into the brake/indicator lighting in my > MII BT7's rear reflectors. Since the rubber backing was probably original > and pretty grotty, I bought a new pair. I took these apart, expecting them > to be pretty much the same as the originals. Well, they were and, mostly, > the parts were interchangeable. But - and I think it's a BIG BUT - there was > no reflective foil in the new pair. > > > > Correct me on the physics if I'm wrong, but I presume that the car behind's > light beams go into the reflectors, hit the foil and come back as a nice > little red reflected glow. Bit like a mirror? So, if there's no foil, the > light hits the black rubber and stays there? Seems likely to me. Seems that > a reflector without foil is about as practical as a chocolate teapot?? > > > > Our cars are none too visible at night with everything 100%. Something to > think about?? I've emailed the supplier and await a response. > > > > Any comments out there? > > > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 07:21:40 2012 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 08:21:40 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Record Healey Price!/Prices Message-ID: This is something that has puzzled me for some time. A while back there was a thread about a book on how LBCs worked. As soon as someone mentioned it, the price for used copies zoomed to over $200. We discussed the same thing here about the Moment/Anderson book. The same thing happened with a cook book that my wife wanted me to get as a present for a new bride. Several years ago I got one for her for $14..95 on Amazon. This time when I looked there were three used copies. One for $24.95, one for $176, and one for $179. Barnes and Noble had a used one for $345! When Looked at the book it was a small paperback that sold for $6.95 in 1983! The publisher no longer exists. Do folks really think someone will pay that much? Back when I was a Lionel train collector I was visiting a book store that specialized in transportation literature and notice an instruction sheet for a Lionel accessory that was still available at hobby shops. The price was twice the cost of the accessory. When I pointed out to the clerk that you could by the accessory including instruction sheet for less than his price for his instruction sheet, he said "someone will eventually buy it." Is that the secret of these prices, or are the sellers just hoping to catch some unknowing person? Jack. From glemon at neb.rr.com Mon Jan 2 07:53:47 2012 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 08:53:47 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Record Healey Price!/Prices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <526349A64CF440BF89D7F3E46AC98ABA@GregPC> "Is that the secret of these prices, or are the sellers just hoping to catch some unknowing person? Jack." I think that must be it, and I think you are right I am seeing more of it too, from books to model trains (which I also dabble in) to cars, if something is no longer made it seems like more and more people are deciding it is (or at least maybe someone will think it is) rare and valuable. My brother and I have owned many box Sprites over the years, a few weeks ago I sent him an internet listing for a mid sixties Sprite they were asking $10,000 for, there was nothing special about the car, it was not restored to a high standard, looked like it had merely been refurbished and repaired here and there over the years, which made the price extraordinary enough, but then as you read the description the owner admitted "it didn't run", as the kids would say OMG LOL. I think with the advent of the internet it is so easy to cheaply list anything for sale to a wide audience that some just put things out there and say what the heck, its a ridiculous price, but maybe somebody will pay it. It boggles my mind, because with the advent of the internet you can also research value and shop for the best deal pretty easily. Happy new year to all. Greg Lemon From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 09:38:17 2012 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 08:38:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Record Healey Price!/Prices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I saw a discussion about this on a message board a while back. In that particular case it was a book that had zoomed in price to over $1,200.00. It turned out there were two sellers that had a copy. They each had a robot program that repriced their book based on what the other sellers had it for. As I recall one seller has his robot to up the price by 35% or so, and the other seller had his set to undercut the other sellers by a few percent. Someone got a copy of the price raises and each one was exactly the same percent for each seller. The net result was over time a 6 dollar book was listed for an obscene amount of $ Rick On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Jack Feldman wrote: > This is something that has puzzled me for some time. A while back there was > a thread about a book on how LBCs worked. As soon as someone mentioned it, > the price for used copies zoomed to over $200. We discussed the same thing > here about the Moment/Anderson book. From mikljmal at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 10:54:58 2012 From: mikljmal at gmail.com (Michael J Maloney) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:54:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] New Year Message-ID: Hi Listers,aka"helpers": Many thanx for your helping the past and future! My hope is that all your parts are available AND that they fit. Have a good year! Mike Maloney 66-HLY From steveg at abrazosdata.com Mon Jan 2 10:59:35 2012 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 09:59:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Parking_Brake_discovery?= Message-ID: <20120102175935.8269.qmail@hoster902.com> My parking brake - even though the rear drums are adjusted to drag slightly - has always barely caught in an almost vertical position. Not anywhere close to the "3-clicks up" position as desired. In the process of installing my Supra W58 tranny, I discovered the internal mount for the handbrake lever was broken - the weld had come loose from the frame x-member, allowing quite a lot of free rotation before the lever caught. I made a clamp-on reinforcing bracket and now the brake functions just like emergency brakes on other cars - it'll definitely hold the car on a hill. Just a FWIW. -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA BN6 From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Mon Jan 2 11:07:04 2012 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:07:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Inflated prices Message-ID: Maybe the wife said, "You got to get rid of some of your stuff so put it on Ebay" and he really wanted to keep it. Rich Kahn From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jan 2 11:54:17 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:54:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Parking Brake discovery In-Reply-To: <20120102175935.8269.qmail@hoster902.com> References: <20120102175935.8269.qmail@hoster902.com> Message-ID: <4F01FD59.4080102@comcast.net> I suspect this is pretty common; happened to me too. Next time I have the cover off with the MIG handy ... Bob On 1/2/2012 9:59 AM, Steve B. Gerow wrote: > My parking brake - even though the rear drums are adjusted to drag slightly - has always barely caught in an almost > vertical position. Not anywhere close to the "3-clicks up" position as desired. > > In the process of installing my Supra W58 tranny, I discovered the internal mount for the handbrake lever was broken - > the weld had come loose from the frame x-member, allowing quite a lot of free rotation before the lever caught. > > I made a clamp-on reinforcing bracket and now the brake functions just like emergency brakes on other cars - it'll > definitely hold the car on a hill. > > Just a FWIW. > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Jan 2 12:23:29 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:23:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Inflated prices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00e301ccc984$02a36330$07ea2990$@verizon.net> That always works for me. New parts shipped to a friend, old stuff listed at inflated prices. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kahn Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:07 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Inflated prices Maybe the wife said, "You got to get rid of some of your stuff so put it on Ebay" and he really wanted to keep it. Rich Kahn From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 13:21:51 2012 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:21:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Record Healey Price!/Prices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here is the blog site where the author tracked the pricing. I was wrong earlier, the price of the book went up to $23,698,655.93. Twenty three million dollars for a book about flies. Worth the read. http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=358 Rick On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Richard Ewald wrote: > I saw a discussion about this on a message board a while back. > In that particular case it was a book that had zoomed in price to over > $1,200.00. > It turned out there were two sellers that had a copy. They each had a > robot program that repriced their book based on what the other sellers had > it for. > As I recall one seller has his robot to up the price by 35% or so, and the > other seller had his set to undercut the other sellers by a few percent. > Someone got a copy of the price raises and each one was exactly the same > percent for each seller. > The net result was over time a 6 dollar book was listed for an obscene > amount of $ > Rick From HealeyHundred at comcast.net Mon Jan 2 13:36:36 2012 From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net (Richard Gordon) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:36:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Free Book on iTunes no LBC content Message-ID: <3418E99C-ABD6-4042-BD21-407CD70C6958@comcast.net> Please pardon my none Healey post. This has no LBC content, But I would like some feedback from folks with kids or grandkids between the ages of 4 and 14. There is a book on iTunes that you can download for free to your smart phone or tablet. It is called, "Mommy Can I Have a Puppy?". Check it out and send me some feedback off list. Thanks, Richard From s.hutchings at rogers.com Mon Jan 2 14:43:21 2012 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:43:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 console Message-ID: I'm doing some benchtop jobs while the winter makes my garage uncomfortable, and one of them is to recover my console. I'm worried about bending the tabs on the chrome stips...they look like they might snap off easily. Anyone have advice on how to go about this without doing any damage? Thanks, Stephen, BJ8 From HealeyHundred at comcast.net Mon Jan 2 14:45:14 2012 From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net (Richard Gordon) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:45:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sighting on TV Message-ID: <94089E6C-395A-4B73-8C3B-4B9B158D90A2@comcast.net> Last night watching the Twilight Zone from the 1960's there was a Healey (BT7) right up front being driven off by the stars of the show. Let me know off list if you would like a photo from the TV screen. Richard Richard Gordon Rocky Mountain Austin-Healey Club HealeyHundred at comcast.net From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 14:51:56 2012 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:51:56 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Record Healey Price!/Prices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That explains why I bought a book from a new vendor which never arrived. I finally got my money back, and the vendor was kicked off Amazon. "For the wickedness of the world is such that you have to keep running to keep your legs from being stolen." Bertold Brecht. Jack On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > Here is the blog site where the author tracked the pricing. I was wrong > earlier, the price of the book went up to $23,698,655.93. > Twenty three million dollars for a book about flies. > Worth the read. > http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=358 > Rick > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Richard Ewald wrote: > >> I saw a discussion about this on a message board a while back. >> In that particular case it was a book that had zoomed in price to over >> $1,200.00. >> It turned out there were two sellers that had a copy. They each had a >> robot program that repriced their book based on what the other sellers had >> it for. >> As I recall one seller has his robot to up the price by 35% or so, and >> the other seller had his set to undercut the other sellers by a few >> percent. Someone got a copy of the price raises and each one was exactly >> the same percent for each seller. >> The net result was over time a 6 dollar book was listed for an obscene >> amount of $ >> Rick From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 16:10:29 2012 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 18:10:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Inflated prices In-Reply-To: <00e301ccc984$02a36330$07ea2990$@verizon.net> References: <00e301ccc984$02a36330$07ea2990$@verizon.net> Message-ID: I'm hoping that the inflated prices on no longer available "new" stuff works for me. Ford just quit making the Ranger last month. Reckon my '05 is worth $50,000 yet??? And, if that Barbie Healey that I found last summer for $75 is still there, I'm snapping that baby up. (And y'all told me it wasn't worth but $25.) I somehow suspect that you are right... LOL, Bob Johnson BJ8 From info at atteanlodge.com Mon Jan 2 18:24:57 2012 From: info at atteanlodge.com (Attean Lake Lodge) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:24:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 67 BJ8 front shroud vs.earlier Message-ID: Dear Healey Helpers, May the elite among you advise if there was a difference in the shroud size,mainly the length between my 67 and say a 63 or 64? My body man says there is and I am not sure I trust him anymore, final fitting is becoming a major issue. Many thanks. Brad Holden From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 19:33:49 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:33:49 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 67 BJ8 front shroud vs.earlier In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brad - If it is a '63 shroud, that means it is from a BJ7. This shroud will be shorter because the dash is different on a BJ7. If it's a '64, then it's probably from a BJ8 (unless it's a US model year '64, then it could be from a BJ7). All BJ8 shrouds are the same length and size, the only difference is an additional mount for the separate parking / indicator light on the front shroud, other than that they should be identical. By the way, let me know if you would be willing to sell the left front quarter of the shroud to me after you are done chopping up your shrouds. At some point on my BJ8 this part was replaced with a clip from a BT7 or BN6 and the grill openings and the part above the grill are different on the earlier sixes. Best, Alan On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Attean Lake Lodge wrote: > Dear Healey Helpers, > > May the elite among you advise if there was a difference in the shroud > size,mainly the length between my 67 and say a 63 or 64? My body man says > there is and I am not sure I trust him anymore, final fitting is becoming a > major issue. Many thanks. > > Brad Holden > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jan 2 19:56:11 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:56:11 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 67 BJ8 front shroud vs. earlier In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000501ccc9c3$3fc6ca60$bf545f20$@net> Absolutely no difference in overall lengths within the convertibles, for instance where fenders bolt up, bonnet openings, etc. Of course single lamp vs. twin lamp changes, but not any of the sizes to fit the structure of the car. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Attean Lake Lodge Sent: 2012-01-02 8:25 To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] 67 BJ8 front shroud vs.earlier Dear Healey Helpers, May the elite among you advise if there was a difference in the shroud size,mainly the length between my 67 and say a 63 or 64? My body man says there is and I am not sure I trust him anymore, final fitting is becoming a major issue. Many thanks. Brad Holden $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jan 2 20:01:18 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:01:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 67 BJ8 front shroud vs. earlier In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601ccc9c3$f73827c0$e5a87740$@net> Alan and Brad, Again, no difference in the shroud on BJ7 vs. BJ8. The dash is different but it doesn't affect the shroud. The deeper spaced wrap around convertible windscreen assembly is what makes the difference and it sits in exactly the same contour on all convertibles, which is where it differs from the 6 cylinder roadsters. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: 2012-01-02 9:34 To: Attean Lake Lodge Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 67 BJ8 front shroud vs.earlier Brad - If it is a '63 shroud, that means it is from a BJ7. This shroud will be shorter because the dash is different on a BJ7. If it's a '64, then it's probably from a BJ8 (unless it's a US model year '64, then it could be from a BJ7). All BJ8 shrouds are the same length and size, the only difference is an additional mount for the separate parking / indicator light on the front shroud, other than that they should be identical. By the way, let me know if you would be willing to sell the left front quarter of the shroud to me after you are done chopping up your shrouds. At some point on my BJ8 this part was replaced with a clip from a BT7 or BN6 and the grill openings and the part above the grill are different on the earlier sixes. Best, Alan On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Attean Lake Lodge wrote: > Dear Healey Helpers, > > May the elite among you advise if there was a difference in the shroud > size,mainly the length between my 67 and say a 63 or 64? My body man > says there is and I am not sure I trust him anymore, final fitting is > becoming a major issue. Many thanks. > > Brad Holden > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From s.hutchings at rogers.com Mon Jan 2 20:08:50 2012 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:08:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question Message-ID: Actually it was the speaker grille, not the chrome strips, that is held on with bent tabs. Stephen, BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 20:21:15 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 11:21:15 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 67 BJ8 front shroud vs. earlier In-Reply-To: <000501ccc9c3$3fc6ca60$bf545f20$@net> References: <000501ccc9c3$3fc6ca60$bf545f20$@net> Message-ID: Rich is right, I was wrong on that. I forgot that the BJ7 uses the same padded dash top as the BJ8. For a second I thought it used the earlier short dash top. Whether BJ7 or BJ8, it should be fine length wise. Best, Alan On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > Absolutely no difference in overall lengths within the convertibles, for > instance where fenders bolt up, bonnet openings, etc. Of course single lamp > vs. twin lamp changes, but not any of the sizes to fit the structure of the > car. > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Attean Lake Lodge > Sent: 2012-01-02 8:25 > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] 67 BJ8 front shroud vs.earlier > > Dear Healey Helpers, > > May the elite among you advise if there was a difference in the shroud > size,mainly the length between my 67 and say a 63 or 64? My body man says > there is and I am not sure I trust him anymore, final fitting is becoming a > major issue. Many thanks. > > Brad Holden > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Jan 3 03:48:15 2012 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 05:48:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001301ccca05$32bbfdd0$9833f970$@rr.com> Stephen, I don't know whether you are installing a new grille in the console, or removing one that is already there. If installing a new one, I put my speaker grille in the console with small washers over the tabs before prying the legs of the tabs apart with a flat blade screwdriver enough to snug up the washers to secure the grille. It isn't necessary to spread the tab legs far enough to break them off. The washer technique also makes it possible to remove the grille if desired without having to risk breaking off the tabs. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA Actually it was the speaker grille, not the chrome strips, that is held on with bent tabs. Stephen, BJ8 From gmandas at yahoo.com Tue Jan 3 05:23:53 2012 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 07:23:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question In-Reply-To: <001301ccca05$32bbfdd0$9833f970$@rr.com> References: <001301ccca05$32bbfdd0$9833f970$@rr.com> Message-ID: Is Greg 65BJ8 "You brought me here to fix this thing and people are key." Steve Jobs Sent from my iPhone. On Jan 3, 2012, at 5:48 AM, "BJ8 Healeys" wrote: > Stephen, I don't know whether you are installing a new grille in the > console, or removing one that is already there. If installing a new one, I > put my speaker grille in the console with small washers over the tabs before > prying the legs of the tabs apart with a flat blade screwdriver enough to > snug up the washers to secure the grille. It isn't necessary to spread the > tab legs far enough to break them off. The washer technique also makes it > possible to remove the grille if desired without having to risk breaking off > the tabs. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > > Actually it was the speaker grille, not the chrome strips, that is > held on with bent tabs. > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From gmandas at yahoo.com Tue Jan 3 05:29:17 2012 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 07:29:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question In-Reply-To: <001301ccca05$32bbfdd0$9833f970$@rr.com> References: <001301ccca05$32bbfdd0$9833f970$@rr.com> Message-ID: <265CFEC2-D5A5-4A12-8345-4F477C6DC0FC@yahoo.com> Sorry for the previous incomplete email, it's early morning on an iPhone. Does anyone know the model number of a replacement speaker or even if one is available available? Greg 65BJ8 "You brought me here to fix this thing and people are key." Steve Jobs Sent from my iPhone. On Jan 3, 2012, at 5:48 AM, "BJ8 Healeys" wrote: > Stephen, I don't know whether you are installing a new grille in the > console, or removing one that is already there. If installing a new one, I > put my speaker grille in the console with small washers over the tabs before > prying the legs of the tabs apart with a flat blade screwdriver enough to > snug up the washers to secure the grille. It isn't necessary to spread the > tab legs far enough to break them off. The washer technique also makes it > possible to remove the grille if desired without having to risk breaking off > the tabs. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > > Actually it was the speaker grille, not the chrome strips, that is > held on with bent tabs. > Stephen, BJ8 From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jan 3 06:30:00 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:30:00 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question In-Reply-To: <265CFEC2-D5A5-4A12-8345-4F477C6DC0FC@yahoo.com> References: <001301ccca05$32bbfdd0$9833f970$@rr.com> <265CFEC2-D5A5-4A12-8345-4F477C6DC0FC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F0302D8.8020702@comcast.net> I picked one up at Radio Shack. It's been a long time so I have no idea what the part# was; just get one close to the correct size, and I think they're 8ohm impedance (most speakers, etc. are). Change the terminals on the wires if necessary. IIRC mounting was not a problem. Bob On 1/3/2012 4:29 AM, Greg Mandas wrote: > Sorry for the previous incomplete email, it's early morning on an iPhone. > > Does anyone know the model number of a replacement speaker or even if one is > available available? > > Greg > 65BJ8 > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 07:02:58 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 22:02:58 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question In-Reply-To: <265CFEC2-D5A5-4A12-8345-4F477C6DC0FC@yahoo.com> References: <001301ccca05$32bbfdd0$9833f970$@rr.com> <265CFEC2-D5A5-4A12-8345-4F477C6DC0FC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Greg - I am sure there are better experts on the list, but I have seen the original factory radio set ups and it consists of a special radio with an oval speaker mounted to the top of the radio. Needless to say there is no modern equivalent. There are, however, many sizes of car speakers available and you can usually find one that is a rough approximation. Note that most of the cars in the US were fitted with US radios by dealers, so some dealer installed radios won't even have the speaker on top.... Best, Alan On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Greg Mandas wrote: > Sorry for the previous incomplete email, it's early morning on an iPhone. > > Does anyone know the model number of a replacement speaker or even if one is > available available? > > Greg > 65BJ8 > > "You brought me here to fix this thing and people are key." Steve Jobs > > Sent from my iPhone. > > > On Jan 3, 2012, at 5:48 AM, "BJ8 Healeys" wrote: > >> Stephen, I don't know whether you are installing a new grille in the >> console, or removing one that is already there. If installing a new one, I >> put my speaker grille in the console with small washers over the tabs > before >> prying the legs of the tabs apart with a flat blade screwdriver enough to >> snug up the washers to secure the grille. It isn't necessary to spread the >> tab legs far enough to break them off. The washer technique also makes it >> possible to remove the grille if desired without having to risk breaking > off >> the tabs. >> >> Steve Byers >> HBJ8L/36666 >> BJ8 Registry >> Havelock, NC USA >> >> >> Actually it was the speaker grille, not the chrome strips, that is >> held on with bent tabs. >> Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Jan 3 08:22:51 2012 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:22:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Radio part number Message-ID: <8CE9842B0E368F8-2158-712DD@webmail-d131.sysops.aol.com> Taking off from the original console question. Maybe someone can look this one up. Is there a listing for a factory part number for a radio? I have always been under the assumption that all radios (and speaker) where added by the dealer. I understand that not all cars were delivered to a dealer but I don't remember seeing a part number. I don't have access to my BJ8 parts books presently. Thanks Aloha Perry Subject: Re: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question Greg - I am sure there are better experts on the list, but I have seen the riginal factory radio set ups and it consists of a special radio with n oval speaker mounted to the top of the radio. Needless to say here is no modern equivalent. There are, however, many sizes of car peakers available and you can usually find one that is a rough pproximation. Note that most of the cars in the US were fitted with US radios by ealers, so some dealer installed radios won't even have the speaker n top.... Best, Alan From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com Tue Jan 3 08:51:44 2012 From: Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:51:44 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question In-Reply-To: <265CFEC2-D5A5-4A12-8345-4F477C6DC0FC@yahoo.com> References: <001301ccca05$32bbfdd0$9833f970$@rr.com> <265CFEC2-D5A5-4A12-8345-4F477C6DC0FC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF63314F9FED6@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> Greg, The speaker bracket that come with a radio that I have is for a speaker that is round and much larger than the grill shape. The bracket is attached to the radio via two holes for the radio knob shafts to pass through. The bracket goes up and tilts away from the speaker grill a bit. Ken Freese 65 Bj8 From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Jan 3 08:54:30 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:54:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Radio part number In-Reply-To: <8CE9842B0E368F8-2158-712DD@webmail-d131.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE9842B0E368F8-2158-712DD@webmail-d131.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <012401ccca2f$fb653790$f22fa6b0$@verizon.net> I have an undated BMC Accessory brochure for the Healey and other BMC cars which shows a "transistorized" radio. It came AM only. You can see it on the Literature page of my site. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeyguy at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:23 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radio part number Taking off from the original console question. Maybe someone can look this one up. Is there a listing for a factory part number for a radio? I have always been under the assumption that all radios (and speaker) where added by the dealer. I understand that not all cars were delivered to a dealer but I don't remember seeing a part number. I don't have access to my BJ8 parts books presently. Thanks Aloha Perry Subject: Re: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question Greg - I am sure there are better experts on the list, but I have seen the riginal factory radio set ups and it consists of a special radio with n oval speaker mounted to the top of the radio. Needless to say here is no modern equivalent. There are, however, many sizes of car peakers available and you can usually find one that is a rough pproximation. Note that most of the cars in the US were fitted with US radios by ealers, so some dealer installed radios won't even have the speaker n top.... Best, Alan $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jan 3 09:07:08 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Radio part number In-Reply-To: <8CE9842B0E368F8-2158-712DD@webmail-d131.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <166315488.265406.1325606828294.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> IIRC--don't have the cert handy--my BJ8's BMIHT cert stated 'radio' as part of the equipment list (along with the extravagant stuff like 'heater'). It's a 'BMC' radio. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: healeyguy at aol.com To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 7:22:51 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radio part number Taking off from the original console question. Maybe someone can look this one up. Is there a listing for a factory part number for a radio? I have always been under the assumption that all radios (and speaker) where added by the dealer. I understand that not all cars were delivered to a dealer but I don't remember seeing a part number. I don't have access to my BJ8 parts books presently. Thanks Aloha Perry Subject: Re: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question Greg - I am sure there are better experts on the list, but I have seen the riginal factory radio set ups and it consists of a special radio with n oval speaker mounted to the top of the radio. Needless to say here is no modern equivalent. There are, however, many sizes of car peakers available and you can usually find one that is a rough pproximation. Note that most of the cars in the US were fitted with US radios by ealers, so some dealer installed radios won't even have the speaker n top.... Best, Alan _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 3 09:16:28 2012 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 08:16:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 67 BJ8 front shroud vs.earlier In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <520AE53A-8A67-4636-9883-3AEFE41EDF0C@sbcglobal.net> The overall length of the BJ7 and BJ8 shrouds are the same. The differences are at the rear of the shroud where the windshield sits and at the front depending on which lights are on the car. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jan 2, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Attean Lake Lodge wrote: > Dear Healey Helpers, > > May the elite among you advise if there was a difference in the shroud > size,mainly the length between my 67 and say a 63 or 64? My body > man says > there is and I am not sure I trust him anymore, final fitting is > becoming a > major issue. Many thanks. > > Brad Holden > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Jan 3 09:49:28 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:49:28 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Radio part number References: <8CE9842B0E368F8-2158-712DD@webmail-d131.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <012c01ccca37$a9210fb0$fb632f10$@verizon.net> I neglected to add that further down on the Literature page is a price list for accessories for the BN6 which shows a push button radio at 39 pounds which was about one half of the price of adding the Overdrive so it was pretty pricey. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: John Sims [mailto:ahbn6 at verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:55 AM To: 'healeyguy at aol.com'; 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Radio part number I have an undated BMC Accessory brochure for the Healey and other BMC cars which shows a "transistorized" radio. It came AM only. You can see it on the Literature page of my site. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeyguy at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:23 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radio part number Taking off from the original console question. Maybe someone can look this one up. Is there a listing for a factory part number for a radio? I have always been under the assumption that all radios (and speaker) where added by the dealer. I understand that not all cars were delivered to a dealer but I don't remember seeing a part number. I don't have access to my BJ8 parts books presently. Thanks Aloha Perry Subject: Re: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question Greg - I am sure there are better experts on the list, but I have seen the riginal factory radio set ups and it consists of a special radio with n oval speaker mounted to the top of the radio. Needless to say here is no modern equivalent. There are, however, many sizes of car peakers available and you can usually find one that is a rough pproximation. Note that most of the cars in the US were fitted with US radios by ealers, so some dealer installed radios won't even have the speaker n top.... Best, Alan $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From kags at shaw.ca Tue Jan 3 10:00:02 2012 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:00:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Stephen: I recently did this on my BJ8. I wound up breaking one of the split pins on the radio grille surround in spite of being very careful when removing it. (this is called the 'speaker fret' in the factory parts book). In addition, the speaker grille part had seen better days (this is called the 'fret - speaker' in the book). I simply replaced both parts. The new bits were excellent - I have seen some that were crap. I sourced them from Bob Yule at Autofarm in Ontario. They were not horribly expensive. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Hutchings Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 7:08 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question Actually it was the speaker grille, not the chrome strips, that is held on with bent tabs. Stephen, BJ8 From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Jan 3 10:13:38 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:13:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Updates to web site Message-ID: <012d01ccca3b$094b41f0$1be1c5d0$@verizon.net> For the last of December and first part of January 2012: 1. A link to Rendezvous 2012 on the Links page, Rally, Shows, etc. section. 2. Links to the Italian and South African clubs on the Links page. Clubs section. 3. New links to the Austin Healey Club, USA on the Links page, Restoration section and revised descriptive language on other locations where a link to this club appears making note of the Moment - Anderson 37 part series on restorations which can also be used for maintenance, etc. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From kags at shaw.ca Tue Jan 3 10:16:40 2012 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:16:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Radio part number In-Reply-To: <8CE9842B0E368F8-2158-712DD@webmail-d131.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE9842B0E368F8-2158-712DD@webmail-d131.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2F5F41EBCAE14F1EBAF216C8D59F72CF@KagsLaptop> Perry: Welcome to the mainland, by the way. I've pasted in a copy of a listing of, I believe, Smiths parts numbers that was circulated years ago - can't remember who did it, or I'd credit him. I think it's pretty reliable as far as the factory supplied radios are concerned. I can't find any BMC parts numbers for radios. Of course, a lot of the North American cars had other radios fitted by the dealers. I have a Radiomobile 972T for my '67, which was sold new in the US and still works - push button AM only. I have a couple of photos of the original assembled radio / cardboard speaker mount set up if anyone is interested. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb Radiomobile Manual 64 62T 65-66 72T 68 RM72 Pushbutton 64 902T 65-66 972T 68 RM972 Fitting Kit 64-68 EK/AH 07 Aerial 65-68 AW 92/60 b Radiomateb AM/FM 68 RM13 -----Original Message----- From: healeyguy at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:22 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radio part number Taking off from the original console question. Maybe someone can look this one up. Is there a listing for a factory part number for a radio? I have always been under the assumption that all radios (and speaker) where added by the dealer. I understand that not all cars were delivered to a dealer but I don't remember seeing a part number. I don't have access to my BJ8 parts books presently. Thanks Aloha Perry From kags at shaw.ca Tue Jan 3 10:32:55 2012 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:32:55 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question In-Reply-To: References: <001301ccca05$32bbfdd0$9833f970$@rr.com> <265CFEC2-D5A5-4A12-8345-4F477C6DC0FC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2C63CB89ED684C8EB5B3173C62BF69BF@KagsLaptop> All - I have an original Radiomobile model 972T radio / speaker set-up for my BJ8. At some point in the past, I hade to replace the speaker part - the paper was pretty torn up. I went to an electronics parts supplier - this was before Radio shack was common, and had no trouble finding a replacement speaker to fit the cardboard mount. I don't know if the radio was factory or dealer installed, but it works on the North American frequency, rather than the European. I have photos of it out of the car if anyone is interested. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb -----Original Message----- From: Alan Seigrist Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 6:02 AM To: Greg Mandas Cc: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question Greg - I am sure there are better experts on the list, but I have seen the original factory radio set ups and it consists of a special radio with an oval speaker mounted to the top of the radio. Needless to say there is no modern equivalent. There are, however, many sizes of car speakers available and you can usually find one that is a rough approximation. Note that most of the cars in the US were fitted with US radios by dealers, so some dealer installed radios won't even have the speaker on top.... Best, Alan From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Tue Jan 3 10:38:08 2012 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 17:38:08 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement fuse box Message-ID: <000001ccca3e$74ecf090$5ec6d1b0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> I've been contemplating putting in a fuse box with a few more terminals than my current two (MkII BT7) I seem to recall that the MGB's 4 way box (Lucas 7FJ) has been mentioned here. See:- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lucas-37552-7FJ-4-way-Fuse-Box-Cover-MG-Midget-AUS TIN-HEALEY-Sprite-/300593563831?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM &hash=item45fcc5c8b7 Does it fit into the original's captive nuts? Is a 4 way box enough? Any other thoughts?? Thanks, Simon From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Jan 3 11:08:57 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:08:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement fuse box In-Reply-To: <000001ccca3e$74ecf090$5ec6d1b0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <000001ccca3e$74ecf090$5ec6d1b0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <012e01ccca42$c40843b0$4c18cb10$@verizon.net> A better way to go may be to buy the one from Charlie Hart hartcg at msn.com It holds six fuses and fits the existing mounting holes. See my write up on the Technical page, My Modifications section of my site for the way that I wired mine. Goes on in about 10 minutes including time spent wiring it. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:38 PM To: 'healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] Replacement fuse box I've been contemplating putting in a fuse box with a few more terminals than my current two (MkII BT7) I seem to recall that the MGB's 4 way box (Lucas 7FJ) has been mentioned here. See:- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lucas-37552-7FJ-4-way-Fuse-Box-Cover-MG-Midget-AUS TIN-HEALEY-Sprite-/300593563831?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM &hash=item45fcc5c8b7 Does it fit into the original's captive nuts? Is a 4 way box enough? Any other thoughts?? Thanks, Simon From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jan 3 11:47:58 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list Healeys Message-ID: <219227491.274812.1325616478878.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Keep getting these from the List ... Mark doing some cleanup or is this a hint? Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From jstmorris at yahoo.com Tue Jan 3 12:34:39 2012 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 11:34:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Radio part number In-Reply-To: <2F5F41EBCAE14F1EBAF216C8D59F72CF@KagsLaptop> Message-ID: <1325619279.65629.YahooMailClassic@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Perry, Earl, John, Bob & others; You can find the Smiths part numbers at the AHCSO website at http://www.ahcso.com/detail.aspx?menu=59&app=299&cat1=764&tp=2&lk=no&title=Te chnical+Articles or http://tinyurl.com/7ywst5z Specifically, go to http://www.ahcso.com/pdf/S.%20Smith%20&%20Sons-Austin%20Healey.pdf or http://tinyurl.com/6p36u8a This information was taken from an old Smiths Instruments catalogue. If you want more details about Radiomobile check out http://www.radiomuseum.org/dsp_hersteller_detail.cfm?company_id=7522 or http://tinyurl.com/6om7hnl Hope this helps. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --- On Tue, 1/3/12, Earl Kagna wrote:<< Perry: Welcome to the mainland, by the way. I've pasted in a copy of a listing of, I believe, Smiths parts numbers that was circulated years ago - can't remember who did it, or I'd credit him. I think it's pretty reliable as far as the factory supplied radios are concerned. I can't find any BMC parts numbers for radios. Of course, a lot of the North American cars had other radios fitted by the dealers. I have a Radiomobile 972T for my '67, which was sold new in the US and still works - push button AM only. I have a couple of photos of the original assembled radio / cardboard speaker mount set up if anyone is interested.>> From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 3 13:03:03 2012 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (mark lapierre) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 12:03:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Replacement fuse box In-Reply-To: <000001ccca3e$74ecf090$5ec6d1b0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <1325620983.56010.YahooMailClassic@web180104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have an MGB fuse box in my BT7 but had to use one or two metal screws for obvious reasons. The screw heads look the same so not a huge deal. Mark --- On Tue, 1/3/12, Simon Lachlan wrote: From: Simon Lachlan Subject: [Healeys] Replacement fuse box To: "'healeylist'" Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 12:38 PM I've been contemplating putting in a fuse box with a few more terminals than my current two (MkII BT7) I seem to recall that the MGB's 4 way box (Lucas 7FJ) has been mentioned here. See:- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lucas-37552-7FJ-4-way-Fuse-Box-Cover-MG-Midget-AUS TIN-HEALEY-Sprite-/300593563831?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM &hash=item45fcc5c8b7 Does it fit into the original's captive nuts? Is a 4 way box enough? Any other thoughts?? Thanks, Simon Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From racarbon at verizon.net Tue Jan 3 14:42:19 2012 From: racarbon at verizon.net (RACarbone) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:42:19 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Radio part number Message-ID: <3BAF6ACDACE848C396703DFDCFFD8C2E@RACLaptop> May be a little late but hear goes. As I understand, the radio was a common add-on at the dealers and in the US Motorola was probably the most common supplied with the BJ8. My 64BJ8P1 was dealer (Pontiac/Austin Healey) ordered with a radio and delivered with only the antenna. After a few weeks of dealing with a confused dealer, I made a complaint and visit to the US importer/distributor located in northern NJ and was provided with a BMC AM transistor positive ground push button radio with a clear plastic face plate with bBritish Motor Corporation stamp below the numbers. After having changed to negative ground, the radio has been on the shelf in case I ever convert back. Examining the radio, all paper stickers were lost over the years and there was no manufacturer stamped into the metal. A very faint outline that may have come from an original sticker seems to be bLong Ten_e S28750b. Good luck with your search, Ray Carbone (64BJ8P1) From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 17:47:59 2012 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:47:59 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Fuse Box Message-ID: Simon, Don't know why you want to go with the Prince of Darkness when there are so many other options. I got a fuse block using blade fuses rather than cartridges. ties4less.com has a number of ones on his web site at reasonable prices. No interest other than being a happy customer.Brian is a great guy. I really don't care if my car looks original, just that it is dependable. I bought an assortment of relays, terminals, and a fuse block and set a talented wrench to revising the wiring. Did a great job including making wire looms that look original. One thing I did was to put a 72 amp relay in the circuit rather than taking the fuse block feed from the ignition wire. That way all the circuits that turn on when the ignition is hot go through a heavy wire from the relay connected to the battery terminal on the starter relay. The possibilities are endless. Before you start follow John Sims advice and look at his excellent website for ideas. It is full of great ideas to steal. Jack From: "Simon Lachlan" To: "'healeylist'" Subject: [Healeys] Replacement fuse box Message-ID: <000001ccca3e$74ecf090$ 5ec6d1b0$@lachlan at homecall.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've been contemplating putting in a fuse box with a few more terminals than my current two (MkII BT7) I seem to recall that the MGB's 4 way box (Lucas 7FJ) has been mentioned here. See:- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lucas-37552-7FJ-4-way-Fuse-Box-Cover-MG-Midget-AUS TIN-HEALEY-Sprite-/300593563831?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM > &hash=item45fcc5c8b7 Does it fit into the original's captive nuts? Is a 4 way box enough? Any other thoughts?? Thanks, Simon From gmandas at yahoo.com Tue Jan 3 17:53:28 2012 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:53:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question In-Reply-To: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF63314F9FED6@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> Message-ID: <1325638408.55088.YahooMailClassic@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Ken, Interesting. I bought a radio and speaker from a list member with that exact set up. He could not say if the bracket was standard, just that it was what his car came with. I assumed it was non-standard, i.e.: non-authentic, and the speaker mounted directly to the back of the console. Which is why I asked about model numbers because if it did mount directly to the console, it would be an odd, oblong shape, what 2" by 8", or so. In general, were there "Standard" Healey speaker mounts or regional or all over the place because they were all fabricated by the local dealer? Basically, what's authentic? Greg --- On Tue, 1/3/12, Freese, Ken wrote: > From: Freese, Ken > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Correction on the BJ8 console question > To: "'Greg Mandas'" , "BJ8 Healeys" > Cc: "" > Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 10:51 AM > Greg, > The speaker bracket that come with a radio that I have is > for a speaker that is round and much larger than the grill > shape. The bracket is attached to the radio via two holes > for the radio knob shafts to pass through. The bracket goes > up and tilts away from the speaker grill a bit. > Ken Freese > 65 Bj8 From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 18:30:41 2012 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 19:30:41 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Radio Part Number Message-ID: Manufactures quickly discovered that it was foolish to pay import duties on radios when there were a number of US manufacturers willing to supply them. I have a Motorola on the shelf with the British Leyland logo on the dial plate. Automatic Electric was another big manufacturer of radios for our cars. Many aftermarket radios could be mounted in the place were radios were supposed to go. The problem is that when our cars were new, speakers were a standard 5"X7". With the advent of higher powered radios the standard became 6"X9". 5X7 speakers are no longer manufactured. Perhaps the folks that advertise radio repair for classic cars have a source, but I wouldn't use them with a modern high powered radio. You can get a smaller square speaker and make some sort of adapter that will work as well as a 5X7.They are designed to be used with more power than the old speakers. Since no one has addressed vintage antennas, I will. The low cost ones are exactly the same as I was installing in 1954. They haven't changed. I haven't needed one for years, but the last time I bought one they were $9.95 a Walmart. Jack BT7 KA9HEL From dwflagg at juno.com Tue Jan 3 19:18:25 2012 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg at juno.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 21:18:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Radio Part Number Message-ID: <20120103.181832.1637.110279@mailpop28.dca.untd.com> Jack, Vintage speakers are available on eBay both used and NOS. Another option is to have the original speaker reconed, as the frame and magnet are usually good. Reconing is more expensive than buying a good used or NOS (sometimes) speaker, but better modern materials are used and it will last longer than you!! Doug > Manufactures quickly discovered that it was foolish to pay import > duties on > radios when there were a number of US manufacturers willing to > supply them. > I have a Motorola on the shelf with the British Leyland logo on the > dial > plate. Automatic Electric was another big manufacturer of radios for > our > cars. Many aftermarket radios could be mounted in the place were > radios > were supposed to go. > > The problem is that when our cars were new, speakers were a standard > 5"X7". > With the advent of higher powered radios the standard became 6"X9". > 5X7 > speakers are no longer manufactured. Perhaps the folks that > advertise radio > repair for classic cars have a source, but I wouldn't use them with > a > modern high powered radio. > > You can get a smaller square speaker and make some sort of adapter > that > will work as well as a 5X7.They are designed to be used with more > power > than the old speakers. > > Since no one has addressed vintage antennas, I will. The low cost > ones are > exactly the same as I was installing in 1954. They haven't changed. > I > haven't needed one for years, but the last time I bought one they > were > $9.95 a Walmart. > > Jack > BT7 > KA9HEL > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dwflagg at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f03b71beb7d81347b2fst01duc From glemon at neb.rr.com Tue Jan 3 22:18:46 2012 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 23:18:46 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Radio Part Number In-Reply-To: <20120103.181832.1637.110279@mailpop28.dca.untd.com> References: <20120103.181832.1637.110279@mailpop28.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <34F08BF418974AE9A99B71B1B030C021@GregPC> I have ordered from onlinecarstereo.com a couple times and been happy with the products and service, you can find pretty much anything on there website, here is a 5 x 7" (the size mentioned as original I think) speaker for $15, no doubt better than OEM. http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/p_25804_Boss_Audio_BRS5768.aspx or a two way 5 x 7" if you want to get fancy: http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/p_17628_SoundStorm_F257.aspx Lots and lots of other options there too. Greg Lemon From mark at bradakis.com Tue Jan 3 23:11:57 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 23:11:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list Healeys In-Reply-To: <219227491.274812.1325616478878.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <219227491.274812.1325616478878.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4F03EDAD.8070900@bradakis.com> Bob Spidell wrote: > Keep getting these from the List ... Mark doing some cleanup or is this a hint? > > They are not really coming from the list manager. Ignore them, like you would if someone farted in church. mjb. From austin.healey at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 02:26:33 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:26:33 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list Healeys In-Reply-To: <4F03EDAD.8070900@bradakis.com> References: <219227491.274812.1325616478878.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4F03EDAD.8070900@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <4723A70C-64BC-4CFA-BFDC-B089F0C99F05@gmail.com> Bob. I knew it had to be you. So you promise you'll stop farting in Church? ;-) Chris Sent from my iPhone On 04/01/2012, at 5:11 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Bob Spidell wrote: >> Keep getting these from the List ... Mark doing some cleanup or is >> this a hint? >> >> > > They are not really coming from the list manager. Ignore them, like > you would if someone farted in church. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jan 4 07:16:20 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 06:16:20 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list Healeys In-Reply-To: <4723A70C-64BC-4CFA-BFDC-B089F0C99F05@gmail.com> References: <219227491.274812.1325616478878.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4F03EDAD.8070900@bradakis.com> <4723A70C-64BC-4CFA-BFDC-B089F0C99F05@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F045F34.7090207@comcast.net> Sorry, no can do. Bob On 1/4/2012 1:26 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > Bob. > I knew it had to be you. > So you promise you'll stop farting in Church? > ;-) > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 04/01/2012, at 5:11 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > >> Bob Spidell wrote: >>> Keep getting these from the List ... Mark doing some cleanup or is this a hint? >>> >>> >> >> They are not really coming from the list manager. Ignore them, like >> you would if someone farted in church. >> >> mjb. >> _______________________________________________ > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jan 4 12:22:23 2012 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:22:23 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Advertising Message-ID: <20120104142223.2PXAO.458307.root@pamxwww09-z01> The Jan 12 edition of Harper's Bazaar, has a full page ad by CH (Carolina Herrera), featuring a red Healey. Looks to be a early 60's car. Looks great in the ad. tom From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed Jan 4 21:08:14 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 15:08:14 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 in NC Message-ID: G'day I am looking at a BJ8 near Charlotte, NC in the US. Is it near anyone who could have a look at it for me please? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From rchaskell at earthlink.net Thu Jan 5 04:33:36 2012 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:33:36 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Hemmings Sport & Exotic 2012 Calendar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F058A90.5090608@earthlink.net> And now on ebay.com - item 280786282252 Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php On 12/28/2011 03:23 PM, Randy Hicks wrote: > Unbeknown to me, my 100M is the September playmate of the month. :-) > > http://www.hemmings.com/store/detail_calendars.html?product_id=1376&source=CA > L1211 > > Anybody know who's Bugeye is November? > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100 M White/Black > '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW > '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (for sale) > '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net From Healey100M at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 05:38:39 2012 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 05:38:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hemmings Sport & Exotic 2012 Calendar In-Reply-To: <4F058A90.5090608@earthlink.net> References: <4F058A90.5090608@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Very interesting. Technically Hemmings owns the photo because they did the photography for an article on the car a couple years ago. I can use the photos (and others they shot) for my personal use. I'll pass this on to Hemmings and if they have a problem with it, they can deal with it. But I may drop the seller a note also! :-) Randy On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Bob Haskell wrote: > And now on ebay.com - item 280786282252 > > Bob Haskell > AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar > http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php > > On 12/28/2011 03:23 PM, Randy Hicks wrote: >> Unbeknown to me, my 100M is the September playmate of the month. :-) >> >> http://www.hemmings.com/store/detail_calendars.html?product_id=1376&source=CA >> L1211 >> >> Anybody know who's Bugeye is November? >> >> Randy >> >> Randy Hicks >> www.austinhealey100m.com >> '56 100 M White/Black >> '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW >> '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (for sale) >> '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop >> '65 BJ8 >> '53 MGTD >> Healey100M at gmail.com From m.brouillette at comcast.net Thu Jan 5 08:10:21 2012 From: m.brouillette at comcast.net (m.brouillette at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 15:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Hemmings Sport & Exotic 2012 Calendar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2023310121.382280.1325776221405.JavaMail.root@sz0097a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I had a problem a few years ago that I was selling some old framed ads for cars of the 60s on Ebay and a couple of them were of Cobras and other Shelby cars. All of a sudden Ebay takes them down and I got a cease and desist from Shelby America. I did later negotiate a "Donation" so I could sell those ads if I wanted to, but Shelby was saying even though the ads were from national magazines, they still were trying to say they owned the rights to them. Don't know if you or Hemmings would be able to say the same... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Hicks" To: "Bob Haskell" Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 7:38:39 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hemmings Sport & Exotic 2012 Calendar Very interesting. Technically Hemmings owns the photo because they did the photography for an article on the car a couple years ago. I can use the photos (and others they shot) for my personal use. I'll pass this on to Hemmings and if they have a problem with it, they can deal with it. But I may drop the seller a note also! :-) Randy On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Bob Haskell wrote: > And now on ebay.com - item 280786282252 > > Bob Haskell > AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar > http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php > > On 12/28/2011 03:23 PM, Randy Hicks wrote: >> Unbeknown to me, my 100M is the September playmate of the month. :-) >> >> http://www.hemmings.com/store/detail_calendars.html?product_id=1376&source=CA >> L1211 >> >> Anybody know who's Bugeye is November? >> >> Randy >> >> Randy Hicks >> www.austinhealey100m.com >> '56 100 M White/Black >> '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW >> '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (for sale) >> '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop >> '65 BJ8 >> '53 MGTD >> Healey100M at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.brouillette at comcast.net From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 09:43:07 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 08:43:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Story of Grace Message-ID: I knew of John Nikas' Quixotic trip across country and back from posts on the List, but the story in this month's Austin Healey Magazine was amazing. I am not prone to high emotion, but I cried through most of the story. I lost my mom to lung cancer 3 years ago next month. Our community of "nuts" is fantastic. The help offered along the road was wonderful. John, could you add Jane Erbs to your car for me? Thanks again for your inspirational story. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Thu Jan 5 12:57:32 2012 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 20:57:32 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] SU HD8 Carbs Message-ID: I4m looking for three HD8 Carbs suitable for a Healey. I4m building an uprated 3000 engine and intend to use three HD84s. If anyone has one or more that you are willing to sell please contact me off list. TIA Magnus Karlsson From HealeyHundred at comcast.net Thu Jan 5 15:38:05 2012 From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net (Richard Gordon) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 15:38:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?60th_Annual_MG_Car_=C7lub_Rallye_from_De?= =?iso-8859-1?q?nver_to_Glenwood_Springs?= Message-ID: <0A31B08A-CD64-44A2-82FF-A97D856A9F08@comcast.net> An invitation to all LBC's to attend the 60th Annual MG Car Glub Rallye from Denver to Glenwood Springs. Information can be found on the Facebook page: Austin Healey or: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002063405500 Feel free to share this with other LBC owners. Thanks, Richard From Editorgary at aol.com Thu Jan 5 17:03:50 2012 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:03:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] The Story of Grace Message-ID: <3323d.22059fe7.3c379466@aol.com> As many of you must have noticed, the folks who produce the Moss Motors magazine also published an article this month about John Nikas and Grace, his poor Healey. There certainly is quite a contrast, illustrating the great job that Jeff Eakin is doing with Austin-Healey Magazine. Congratulations, Jeff. Gary From bighealey at charter.net Thu Jan 5 18:09:53 2012 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 17:09:53 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?60th_Annual_MG_Car_=C7lub_Rallye_from_De?= =?iso-8859-1?q?nver_to_Glenwood_Springs?= In-Reply-To: <0A31B08A-CD64-44A2-82FF-A97D856A9F08@comcast.net> References: <0A31B08A-CD64-44A2-82FF-A97D856A9F08@comcast.net> Message-ID: <006101cccc0f$e61e1a50$b25a4ef0$@charter.net> Glenwood is my home town and this event is where I saw my first Healey, watching solo runs from my Swinn stingray bicycle. I always wanted to go, maybe this is the year. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Gordon Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:38 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Richard Gordon Subject: [Healeys] 60th Annual MG Car Glub Rallye from Denver to Glenwood Springs An invitation to all LBC's to attend the 60th Annual MG Car Glub Rallye from Denver to Glenwood Springs. Information can be found on the Facebook page: Austin Healey or: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002063405500 Feel free to share this with other LBC owners. Thanks, Richard $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From ktee20 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 02:10:04 2012 From: ktee20 at gmail.com (keith taylor) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:10:04 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Boot rubber location Message-ID: Ho Ho Ho and another new year I am confused is the boot rubber fitted to the lid or the shroud gutter Moss & AH show it fitted to the shroud but various restorations have it fitted to the lid Seeking list wisdom Keith Taylor WAMBERAL OZ From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 03:37:19 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 18:37:19 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Boot rubber location In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1557A6D8-443E-4768-A7BB-966D9CB9F6B0@gmail.com> It fits to the lid. Works better that way to keep it all dry. Sent from my iPad On 6 Jan, 2012, at 5:10 PM, keith taylor wrote: > Ho Ho Ho and another new year I am confused is the boot rubber fitted to > the lid or the shroud gutter > Moss & AH show it fitted to the shroud but various restorations have it > fitted to the lid Seeking list wisdom > Keith Taylor > WAMBERAL OZ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jan 6 06:15:12 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 08:15:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Boot rubber location In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000f01cccc75$3904fd50$ab0ef7f0$@net> Keith, The boot lid seal on all big Healeys should glue to the inner perimeter of the lid. Do not fit it to the gutter of the shroud. Think of it this way: How efficient would the rain gutters on your house be if they were filled with a molded rubber filler? The water would have no path to follow to drain away. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of keith taylor Sent: 2012-01-06 4:10 To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Boot rubber location Ho Ho Ho and another new year I am confused is the boot rubber fitted to the lid or the shroud gutter Moss & AH show it fitted to the shroud but various restorations have it fitted to the lid Seeking list wisdom Keith Taylor WAMBERAL OZ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Convertible Detail 0015.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Convertible Detail 0014.jpg] From rbender1 at berkshire.rr.com Fri Jan 6 06:27:43 2012 From: rbender1 at berkshire.rr.com (Robert Bender) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 08:27:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Mr Finespanner Message-ID: <000501cccc76$f8c6ff20$ea54fd60$@rr.com> Does anyone know if Mr Finespanner (Doug Reid) is still with us and selling pre-bent brakeline kits? I get no response from email, and the phone at his work appears to be disconnected. From frogeye at porterscustom.com Fri Jan 6 07:13:21 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 07:13:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] top latches Message-ID: <9C79BD2C36404CC786195514BFFB4A89@oscar> Hey folks, Anyone have a pair of serviceable top latches for a BT7 they could part with? These are for a Universal Laminations hardtop but the same as the factory soft top items. They are not readily available through the usual sources and may only exist in private collections.. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 6 07:20:40 2012 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 08:20:40 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Boot rubber location In-Reply-To: <000f01cccc75$3904fd50$ab0ef7f0$@net> References: <000f01cccc75$3904fd50$ab0ef7f0$@net> Message-ID: Fwiw I was also confused and installed it on the shroud and not the lid. Not correct as I was told much later but works OK on my BN7 after several years. Regards, Richard C > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > Subject: [Healeys] Boot rubber location > > Ho Ho Ho and another new year I am confused is the boot rubber fitted to the > lid or the shroud gutter Moss & AH show it fitted to the shroud but various > restorations have it > fitted to the lid Seeking list wisdom > Keith Taylor > WAMBERAL OZ > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Convertible Detail 0015.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Convertible Detail 0014.jpg] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 07:43:54 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 06:43:54 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Boot rubber location In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On a 3000 it fits to the boot lid not the shroud Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jan 6, 2012 1:10 AM, "keith taylor" wrote: > Ho Ho Ho and another new year I am confused is the boot rubber fitted to > the lid or the shroud gutter > Moss & AH show it fitted to the shroud but various restorations have it > fitted to the lid Seeking list wisdom > Keith Taylor > WAMBERAL OZ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 6 09:08:38 2012 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 08:08:38 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] top latches In-Reply-To: <9C79BD2C36404CC786195514BFFB4A89@oscar> References: <9C79BD2C36404CC786195514BFFB4A89@oscar> Message-ID: <84474625-AD4D-441B-A8C2-AE139BF47597@sbcglobal.net> David, we have these avialable new and used. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jan 6, 2012, at 6:13 AM, David Porter wrote: > Hey folks, > > Anyone have a pair of serviceable top latches for a BT7 they could > part > with? These are for a Universal Laminations hardtop but the same > as the > factory soft top items. > > They are not readily available through the usual sources and may > only exist > in private collections.. > > Dave > > > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 > Porter Custom Bicycles > > cars: > www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html > gallery: > http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/ > PorterCustomBicyclesStuff > > GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice > pictures-fun facts-my world > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From frogeye at porterscustom.com Fri Jan 6 09:15:39 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:15:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] top latches In-Reply-To: <84474625-AD4D-441B-A8C2-AE139BF47597@sbcglobal.net> References: <9C79BD2C36404CC786195514BFFB4A89@oscar> <84474625-AD4D-441B-A8C2-AE139BF47597@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I'm on it. Thanks Dave.. I was told you didn't have them and didn't look much further- My bad. dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world _____ From: David Nock [mailto:healeydoc at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 9:09 AM To: David Porter Cc: 'Cc: healeylist' Subject: Re: [Healeys] top latches David, we have these avialable new and used. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jan 6, 2012, at 6:13 AM, David Porter wrote: Hey folks, Anyone have a pair of serviceable top latches for a BT7 they could part with? These are for a Universal Laminations hardtop but the same as the factory soft top items. They are not readily available through the usual sources and may only exist in private collections.. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 09:29:02 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 08:29:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] top latches In-Reply-To: <9C79BD2C36404CC786195514BFFB4A89@oscar> References: <9C79BD2C36404CC786195514BFFB4A89@oscar> Message-ID: I have a complete used BT7 top I was hoping to sell as a complete unit to someone who needs the wood, and assorted bits. Let me figure out a fair price. I know the Nocks have new ones On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:13 AM, David Porter wrote: > Hey folks, > > Anyone have a pair of serviceable top latches for a BT7 they could part > with? These are for a Universal Laminations hardtop but the same as the > factory soft top items. > > They are not readily available through the usual sources and may only exist > in private collections.. > > Dave > > > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 > Porter Custom Bicycles > > cars: > www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html > gallery: > http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff > > GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice > pictures-fun facts-my world > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From ktee20 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 15:37:16 2012 From: ktee20 at gmail.com (keith taylor) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 09:37:16 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Thanks for Boot Rubber Input Message-ID: Thanks for all input Why do Moss , AH , & SC tparts books have it wrong ! As a novice I tend to rely on these big boys manuals for guidance Keith Taylor WAMBERAL OZ From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 16:56:49 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:56:49 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Thanks for Boot Rubber Input In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's why we are here. Always check the obvious. Someone on this list has already hosed whatever you are installing and can provide info on how to do it right. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jan 6, 2012 2:37 PM, "keith taylor" wrote: > Thanks for all input Why do Moss , AH , & SC tparts books have it wrong > ! > As a novice I tend to rely on these big boys manuals for guidance > Keith Taylor > WAMBERAL OZ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 6 17:01:47 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:01:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Thanks for Boot Rubber Input In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120106155636.02111370@pop.att.yahoo.com> I did not follow this thread too closely but from what I can see in the catalogs you may be reading the illustration incorrectly. The majority of the illustrations these companies use are from the original parts books. When I looked at the boot seal catalog pictures the seal is shown in the same orientation as the open boot lid near it in the picture; nearly vertical. The part's orientation is often the clue when trying to figure out where a part goes. John Spaur San Jose, California '62 BT7 At 09:37 AM 1/7/2012 +1100, keith taylor wrote: >Thanks for all input Why do Moss , AH , & SC tparts books have it wrong >! >As a novice I tend to rely on these big boys manuals for guidance >Keith Taylor >WAMBERAL OZ >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 17:09:58 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 08:09:58 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Thanks for Boot Rubber Input In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79C78617-ACBE-4B54-9D45-0103B9B1C033@gmail.com> The only guides worth having are roger moment's restoration book and the concours guidelines. Add to that roger moment's 30 part series in the Austin Healey club magazine and of course the factory parts book. With these four documents you will have, arguably, the most complete and comprehensive set of restoration documents for any classic car of any make in the world. Even E-type and MGB owners don't have resources quite like this. Regards, Alan Sent from my iPad On 7 Jan, 2012, at 6:37 AM, keith taylor wrote: > Thanks for all input Why do Moss , AH , & SC tparts books have it wrong > ! > As a novice I tend to rely on these big boys manuals for guidance > Keith Taylor > WAMBERAL OZ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Fri Jan 6 18:47:03 2012 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 01:47:03 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products Message-ID: What is the best product out there for a heat and sound barrier? I know this has been much discussed in the past. But, I was not interested back then - and I have not been able to find the thread in the archives. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 18:52:24 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 17:52:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Thanks for Boot Rubber Input In-Reply-To: <79C78617-ACBE-4B54-9D45-0103B9B1C033@gmail.com> References: <79C78617-ACBE-4B54-9D45-0103B9B1C033@gmail.com> Message-ID: Listers, At this years Monterrey/Pebble Beach events I received several very nice compliments from both the Jaguar and MG Concours folks. They are very impressed with our Concours guidelines even though my friends in the Jaguar have a hard time understanding how we can spend an hour or more judging a car while they take a maximum of 20 minutes. The MG folks came very close to adopting a similar set of guidelines, and would have succeeded if not for one individual who sabotaged their efforts. However, to those unfamiliar, the Guidelines are just that... there to hopefully fill in the gaps that are not covered in other publications. Cheers, Curt On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > The only guides worth having are roger moment's restoration book and the > concours guidelines. Add to that roger moment's 30 part series in the > Austin > Healey club magazine and of course the factory parts book. > > With these four documents you will have, arguably, the most complete and > comprehensive set of restoration documents for any classic car of any make > in > the world. Even E-type and MGB owners don't have resources quite like > this. > > Regards, > > Alan > > Sent from my iPad > > On 7 Jan, 2012, at 6:37 AM, keith taylor wrote: > > > Thanks for all input Why do Moss , AH , & SC tparts books have it > wrong > > ! > > As a novice I tend to rely on these big boys manuals for guidance > > Keith Taylor > > WAMBERAL OZ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From jheff123 at msn.com Fri Jan 6 13:34:41 2012 From: jheff123 at msn.com (John Heffron) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:34:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey values -"20 footer" Message-ID: Hello ListersOne of the US National clubs - either AHCA or AHC-USA used to periodically publish an informal value guide for all models based on a "one footer", "five footer", "ten footer", etc., concept. I can not find this reference on either club's website and was wondering where and when it was last published.ThanksJohn67 BJ860 AN5 From Healey100M at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 19:36:42 2012 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:36:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2978C8B3-F8BE-44E2-B465-C4BD747EADF9@gmail.com> Richard, take a look at this product. I have it in the BJ8 we tour with and one of the 100's. http://www.lobucrod.com/ Not the cheapest out there but I can drive the BJ8 or 100 with sandals in 95 - 100 degree temps and not get hot feet. Waterproof and will not burn. NFI just very happy with the product. Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M White/Black '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (for sale) '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Jan 6, 2012, at 6:47 PM, richard mayor wrote: > What is the best product out there for a heat and sound barrier? I know this > has been much discussed in the past. But, I was not interested back then - and > I have not been able to find the thread in the archives. > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon From jhomonek at mindspring.com Fri Jan 6 20:20:05 2012 From: jhomonek at mindspring.com (John Homonek) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 22:20:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002a01cccceb$407a4ec0$c16eec40$@com> Richard, I have used FatMat on my two Healeys and a Mercury. Price point is great too. Very satisfied with the results. Good luck. John E. Homonek II 1959 BN7 1974 Jensen-Healey -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of richard mayor Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:47 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products What is the best product out there for a heat and sound barrier? I know this has been much discussed in the past. But, I was not interested back then - and I have not been able to find the thread in the archives. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jhomonek at mindspring.com From sebring at hotkey.net.au Sat Jan 7 01:38:08 2012 From: sebring at hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:38:08 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] test Message-ID: <4F080470.5000702@hotkey.net.au> From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sat Jan 7 03:34:59 2012 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:34:59 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Hood latch Message-ID: <000001cccd28$022be9c0$0683bd40$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> When I was looking for my spare BT7 hood latches for Dave yesterday, I had to dig pretty deep. I got to the layer of stuff that was in the boot when I bought the car from John Chatham's some 15 or so yrs ago. You know what I mean.....that accumulated heap of detritus that "may be useful one day". One knows that it's junk but are convinced that the minute one throws something out, it will turn out to have been pure gold. Anyhow, I extracted a hood latch unlike anything on my car and determined that it never had nor ever would have any use to me. I propose to ditch it tomorrow unless anyone wants it. I'd be ashamed to throw away something useful. Photo provided if you want. The latch would be free. Only pay postage. There's also some other part which looks vaguely hood latch-like too, but it may not be. So, there you have it. Simon From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Jan 7 06:46:38 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 08:46:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey values -"20 footer" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005701cccd42$c83f50b0$58bdf210$@verizon.net> Wasn't that a feature of British Car Magazine which is no longer published? Editor was Gary Anderson. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Heffron Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 3:35 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey values -"20 footer" Hello ListersOne of the US National clubs - either AHCA or AHC-USA used to periodically publish an informal value guide for all models based on a "one footer", "five footer", "ten footer", etc., concept. I can not find this reference on either club's website and was wondering where and when it was last published.ThanksJohn67 BJ860 AN5 $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From gmandas at yahoo.com Sat Jan 7 07:28:29 2012 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 09:28:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey values -"20 footer" In-Reply-To: <005701cccd42$c83f50b0$58bdf210$@verizon.net> References: <005701cccd42$c83f50b0$58bdf210$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Found this via a google search: http://healey.org/content/view/45/252/ Greg 65BJ8 "You brought me here to fix this thing and people are key." Steve Jobs Sent from my iPhone. On Jan 7, 2012, at 8:46 AM, "John Sims" wrote: > Wasn't that a feature of British Car Magazine which is no longer published? > Editor was Gary Anderson. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of John Heffron > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 3:35 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Healey values -"20 footer" > > Hello ListersOne of the US National clubs - either AHCA or AHC-USA used to > periodically publish an informal value guide for all models based on a "one > footer", "five footer", "ten footer", etc., concept. I can not find this > reference on either club's website and was wondering where and when it was > last published.ThanksJohn67 BJ860 AN5 From jhomonek at mindspring.com Sat Jan 7 08:46:20 2012 From: jhomonek at mindspring.com (John Homonek) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:46:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004c01cccd53$806df050$8149d0f0$@com> Richard, I dug up my results of heat reduction test after installing FatMat in the BN7. This was done last summer using a digital infrared thermometer. I live in Atlanta. I think the biggest heat culprits are air leaks from the engine bay through the firewall and heat convection through the firewall, toeboxes and fresh air ducts. Check out the firewall temp reduction. See below: Before: After Outside Air Temp - 96 same Engine Temp - 170 same Exhaust Manifold - 300+ same Firewall Temp - 122 107 I ended up retrofitting it all the way up the firewall to the shroud. I covered the box shaped air duct that runs from side to side, as well. I completely covered both toe boxes and recessed areas for pedal assembly too. (I had already done the floorboards, transmission tunnel and rear bulkhead years ago) John E. Homonek II 1959 BN7 1974 Jensen-Healey -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of richard mayor Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:47 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products What is the best product out there for a heat and sound barrier? I know this has been much discussed in the past. But, I was not interested back then - and I have not been able to find the thread in the archives. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jhomonek at mindspring.com From akronzips at aol.com Sat Jan 7 13:30:36 2012 From: akronzips at aol.com (akronzips at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:30:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Lizzard skin In-Reply-To: <8CE9B822F5E9C22-D38-67683@webmail-d065.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE9B822F5E9C22-D38-67683@webmail-d065.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CE9B9258BB6A06-4BC-2F630@webmail-m028.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Lizzard skin Hi Rich I just applied this to my 61 Healey 3000 Rally Replica www.lizardskin.com This product is unbelieveable. It can be applied with a splatter gun or one that body men use to spray on thick undercoat or stone chip film on the rockers of modern cars. Lizard skin is on ebay out of Texas, summit racing out of Akron, Ohio (www.summitracing.com) search lizard skin, You may also buy it from the factory. There are two types 1 is in the dark can it is sound deadner sprays on There other 2. is ceramic lizard skin it is a heat deflector. I have had this sprayed on the under carriage of my car and under the drivers seat and lower firewall near the muffler position. It can be spray painted and looks great with paint on it. Amount to use one gallon of each $89.00--105.00 each I think the ceramic heat shield in the white bucket is a little more expensive. Please (contact me if you want a first hand report on this stuff ) (I'm not a sales person just a Healey lover) pretty cool (also see www.youtube.com) search (Lizard skin demo) Much easier than dynamat cheers Howard in Akron,Ohio akronzips at aol.com 330-927-1876 1961 BT7 Healey Ralle Replica Tri Carb From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sat Jan 7 13:45:44 2012 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 12:45:44 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <787ED48E2E3B471F9544E6CCE2611AD0@LeonardPCPC> Richard: Yes, there has been much discussion and numerous recommendations. Personally, I am using a foil/foam heating/AC duct product available at home improvement stores such as Home Depot or Lowes. It is self-adhesive, foil backed dense foam, 12 inches wide, 1/8 inch thick, 15 feet long, and costs less than $20.00 per roll. I covered both the inside and outside of the tyranny tunnel and can not feel any heat being transmitted in that area. Can not comment on sound barrier. When it get too noisy (is that possible? ;-) ), I can just turn off my hearing aids. That is seldom necessary, however, as I love all the sounds that I am hearing from my car. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard mayor" To: "healeys" Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 5:47 PM Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products > What is the best product out there for a heat and sound barrier? I know > this > has been much discussed in the past. But, I was not interested back then - > and > I have not been able to find the thread in the archives. > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon > _______________________________________________ From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Jan 7 15:02:44 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:02:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products In-Reply-To: <787ED48E2E3B471F9544E6CCE2611AD0@LeonardPCPC> References: <787ED48E2E3B471F9544E6CCE2611AD0@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <007c01cccd88$15c43bd0$414cb370$@verizon.net> Some years ago there was a thread on this and many recommended a heat proof coating for Char-Broil Smokers Item 418 6119. It came in a roll and was available at Home Depot. They told me that Char-Broil was thinking of discontinuing this product so I bought all of their stock (two rolls - HA!). Anyway, I lined my tranny tunnel with it and it is great. Probably have the same type of product at a BBQ store. One caveat is that it is pre-cut for doors, etc. on a smoker but with all of the curves, etc on the bottom side of the tunnel, this is not a problem as I had to put the liner on with several small pieces. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Len and/or Marge Hartnett Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 3:46 PM To: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products Richard: Yes, there has been much discussion and numerous recommendations. Personally, I am using a foil/foam heating/AC duct product available at home improvement stores such as Home Depot or Lowes. It is self-adhesive, foil backed dense foam, 12 inches wide, 1/8 inch thick, 15 feet long, and costs less than $20.00 per roll. I covered both the inside and outside of the tyranny tunnel and can not feel any heat being transmitted in that area. Can not comment on sound barrier. When it get too noisy (is that possible? ;-) ), I can just turn off my hearing aids. That is seldom necessary, however, as I love all the sounds that I am hearing from my car. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard mayor" To: "healeys" Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 5:47 PM Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products > What is the best product out there for a heat and sound barrier? I know > this > has been much discussed in the past. But, I was not interested back then - > and > I have not been able to find the thread in the archives. > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon > _______________________________________________ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From mkgoodman at att.net Sat Jan 7 11:52:53 2012 From: mkgoodman at att.net (Mark Goodman) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:52:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Wiesmann Automobile References: <0C19457C-B3F5-4030-AB4C-2F40D4EC6531@att.net> Message-ID: > If you take a look at the side view of the Wiesmann roadster the lines sure look familiar to me. You would think that Gerry Coker had something to do with it. The front and rear design is a bit too busy for me. > > http://tinyurl.com/7xahbya > [Open in new window] > > Mark Goodman > www.austinhealeyessence.com > > Sent from my iPad From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jan 7 17:01:30 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products In-Reply-To: <787ED48E2E3B471F9544E6CCE2611AD0@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <1590244546.470664.1325980890835.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> re: "... I covered both the inside and outside of the tyranny tunnel ... " That's either the best pun or Freudian slip I've heard in a long time. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- Richard: Yes, there has been much discussion and numerous recommendations. Personally, I am using a foil/foam heating/AC duct product available at home improvement stores such as Home Depot or Lowes. It is self-adhesive, foil backed dense foam, 12 inches wide, 1/8 inch thick, 15 feet long, and costs less than $20.00 per roll. I covered both the inside and outside of the tyranny tunnel and can not feel any heat being transmitted in that area. Can not comment on sound barrier. When it get too noisy (is that possible? ;-) ), I can just turn off my hearing aids. That is seldom necessary, however, as I love all the sounds that I am hearing from my car. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 7 17:39:34 2012 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:39:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products References: Message-ID: <000e01cccd9d$fedda580$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> I used dynamat Extreme and am satisfied. Tary side sticks to floor or where ever, and the heat shield faces up. Works well as sound deadening in doors too. Also put it inside the trany tunnel. This stuff is pretty darn permanent so think twice and stick once. I bought a box from Eastwood online for 98.00 or 198.00 sorry can't remember exactly. You'd have to check out the web sight. Plenty to cover all the car floor and plenty left over for doors and tunnel. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard mayor" To: "healeys" Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:47 PM Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products > What is the best product out there for a heat and sound barrier? I know > this > has been much discussed in the past. But, I was not interested back then - > and > I have not been able to find the thread in the archives. > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu Sat Jan 7 18:52:33 2012 From: cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu (Charlie Frazer) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:52:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Flex Pipe Failure Message-ID: On a drive today, a friend's oil flex pipe, the braid-covered hose leading from the crankcase to the oil pressure gauge tube, ruptured resulting in a catastrophic oil leak. Fortunately, we discovered the problem early and stopped and secured the car after losing only several quarts of oil. We have topped up the oil, but need to move the car 4-5 miles to a location where we can replace the ruptured pipe. The break is in about the middle of the flex pipe. Can we simply clamp off the tube below (engine side of) the break with a hose clamp or vice grips in order to drive the car a short distance for repair? Thanks for your help. Charlie From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Jan 7 19:38:55 2012 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 02:38:55 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?list?= Message-ID: <20120108023855.13251.qmail@server278.com> was over at jonas payne's today and he stated he had been dropped from the healey list and could not contact anyone to get on again. what does he need to do or can i do it for him. hjim From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 19:46:37 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:46:37 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Flex Pipe Failure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Charlie - the only purpose of that pipe is to measure pressure. It only feeds into a dead end. Go ahead a clamp it off. vise grips should do the trick. Alan On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Charlie Frazer wrote: > On a drive today, a friend's oil flex pipe, the braid-covered hose leading > from the crankcase to the oil pressure gauge tube, ruptured resulting in a > catastrophic oil leak. > Fortunately, we discovered the problem early and stopped and secured the car > after losing only several quarts of oil. > > We have topped up the oil, but need to move the car 4-5 miles to a location > where we can replace the ruptured pipe. > The break is in about the middle of the flex pipe. > > Can we simply clamp off the tube below (engine side of) the break with a > hose clamp or vice grips in order to drive the car a short distance for > repair? > > Thanks for your help. > Charlie > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sat Jan 7 19:54:35 2012 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 18:54:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products In-Reply-To: <1590244546.470664.1325980890835.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1590244546.470664.1325980890835.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1F91AE159A404765876AB82505A9A0DF@LeonardPCPC> Bob: After looking at that several times without seeing the problem, I had a talk with Dr. Freud. He told me get a better spell checker. Believe it or not I had used the spell checker (it's automatic when I click "Send"). I had typed "trany". That was not included. Not being careful enough, I mistook "tyranny" for "tranny". Oh, well. Y not? Reading some of the problems reported on The List, maybe tyranny is the correct word after all. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Spidell To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Cc: AH Mail List Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products re: "... I covered both the inside and outside of the tyranny tunnel ... " That's either the best pun or Freudian slip I've heard in a long time. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jan 7 20:04:53 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:04:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Wiesmann Automobile In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1325991893.18988.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> "Sketches were worked on with the styling being their first concern. Influenced by their love of the Austin Healey 3000 and a desire for a slipstreamed shape, the Wiesmann roadster took shape on paper during the late 1980s." http://www.topspeed.com/cars/wiesmann/2006-wiesmann-gt-coupe-ar4223.html Looks like they were fond of the Jag XK grille as well Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 1/7/12, Mark Goodman wrote: From: Mark Goodman Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Wiesmann Automobile To: "Healeys at Autox. Team. Net" Date: Saturday, January 7, 2012, 1:52 PM > If you take a look at the side view of the Wiesmann roadster the lines sure look familiar to me. You would think that Gerry Coker had something to do with it. The front and rear design is a bit too busy for me. > > http://tinyurl.com/7xahbya > [Open in new window] > > Mark Goodman > www.austinhealeyessence.com > > Sent from my iPad Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 20:06:04 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:06:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Flex Pipe Failure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: staring oil is not a great idea. Try to find an oil tolerant tape to wrap the hose or break it loose, put a section of hose with two hose clamps over the ruptured section. Or pay for a tow. find a friend with a AAA card.... not worth screwing with your bottom end... On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Charlie Frazer wrote: > On a drive today, a friend's oil flex pipe, the braid-covered hose leading > from the crankcase to the oil pressure gauge tube, ruptured resulting in a > catastrophic oil leak. > Fortunately, we discovered the problem early and stopped and secured the > car after losing only several quarts of oil. > > We have topped up the oil, but need to move the car 4-5 miles to a > location where we can replace the ruptured pipe. > The break is in about the middle of the flex pipe. > > Can we simply clamp off the tube below (engine side of) the break with a > hose clamp or vice grips in order to drive the car a short distance for > repair? > > Thanks for your help. > Charlie > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/eyera3000@**gmail.com > > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From m.brouillette at comcast.net Sat Jan 7 20:19:41 2012 From: m.brouillette at comcast.net (Mike Brouillette) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 22:19:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products In-Reply-To: <000e01cccd9d$fedda580$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000e01cccd9d$fedda580$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: I too used Dynamat and have been very happy with the product. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jan 7 20:29:11 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:29:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products In-Reply-To: <787ED48E2E3B471F9544E6CCE2611AD0@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <1325993351.26399.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> With 5 litres under the bonnet, this subject has a special interest for me. If I was looking for the easiest, cost no object solution, I'd go with the pre-cut Kool Mat option: http://www.koolmat.com/british.shtml As has been said, sound insulation and heat insulation are two different matters. I'm more concerned about heat. Like Len, a lifetime of loud rock, guns, and high performance motors with no exhausts have rendered sound protection moot, but I still can feel hot feet. LizardSkin looks like a great, but somewhat pricey, solution. Basically, it's ceramic "micro balloons" suspended in a paint product. I made my own DIY version that you can see on my Nasty Boy build on my sig. I also did the low-buck big box insulation using Reflectix as shown in the build link as well. Another popular cheap insulation in the hot rod community is this LowE closed cell insulation from Lowbucrod: http://www.lobucrod.com/ So far, I'm happy with my alternatives, but I've only driven it in November in New England, which probably isn't much of a test. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 1/7/12, Len and/or Marge Hartnett wrote: From: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products To: "AH Mail List" Date: Saturday, January 7, 2012, 3:45 PM Richard: Yes, there has been much discussion and numerous recommendations. Personally, I am using a foil/foam heating/AC duct product available at home improvement stores such as Home Depot or Lowes. It is self-adhesive, foil backed dense foam, 12 inches wide, 1/8 inch thick, 15 feet long, and costs less than $20.00 per roll. I covered both the inside and outside of the tyranny tunnel and can not feel any heat being transmitted in that area. Can not comment on sound barrier. When it get too noisy (is that possible? ;-) ), I can just turn off my hearing aids. That is seldom necessary, however, as I love all the sounds that I am hearing from my car. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard mayor" To: "healeys" Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 5:47 PM Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products > What is the best product out there for a heat and sound barrier? I know this > has been much discussed in the past. But, I was not interested back then - and > I have not been able to find the thread in the archives. > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon > _______________________________________________ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jan 7 20:31:19 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:31:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Oil Flex Pipe Failure In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1325993479.25563.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> True, on so many levels. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 1/7/12, I Erbs wrote: From: I Erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Flex Pipe Failure To: "Charlie Frazer" Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, January 7, 2012, 10:06 PM . not worth screwing with your bottom end... From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 7 20:34:14 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:34:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Motor mounts Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120107192947.02069730@pop.att.yahoo.com> Is there really any difference between the right and left hand engine mounts or are my eyes going bad? When I check the part numbers in the '62 BT7 parts book the part of the mount that bolts to the engine then to the mount has a left and right part number. Looking at them they seem the same except for the LH and RH stampings. John Spaur '62 MKII From fandy at mediacombb.net Sat Jan 7 21:08:59 2012 From: fandy at mediacombb.net (Fred Anderson) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 22:08:59 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] test Message-ID: <7F680CABC4064960BC45C244AF3D19E4@rickPC> please delete thanks From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Jan 7 21:25:12 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 23:25:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Motor mounts In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120107192947.02069730@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120107192947.02069730@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009e01cccdbd$8440e420$8cc2ac60$@verizon.net> Quote from the Archives: The 3000 - 100/6 engine mounts are handed - they are marked either LH or RH. There is a time period where the mounts were made with slotted holes so that they could be used on either the right or the left hand side. I do not know when these slotted versions were made, but they are very apparent to the eye. Perhaps they were the solution to people not realizing the handed properties of the mounts and installing them incorrectly. It is not readily apparent that the /handed mounts are different. Unquote John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john spaur Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:34 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Motor mounts Is there really any difference between the right and left hand engine mounts or are my eyes going bad? When I check the part numbers in the '62 BT7 parts book the part of the mount that bolts to the engine then to the mount has a left and right part number. Looking at them they seem the same except for the LH and RH stampings. John Spaur '62 MKII $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 21:28:02 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:28:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Motor mounts In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120107192947.02069730@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120107192947.02069730@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: they are right and left handed, but not sure how visible the differences are. but you will now if you cross them up. don't ask On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:34 PM, john spaur wrote: > Is there really any difference between the right and left hand engine > mounts or are my eyes going bad? > > When I check the part numbers in the '62 BT7 parts book the part of the > mount that bolts to the engine then to the mount has a left and right part > number. Looking at them they seem the same except for the LH and RH > stampings. > > John Spaur > '62 MKII > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/eyera3000@**gmail.com > > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From warthodson at aol.com Sat Jan 7 22:58:14 2012 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:58:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Dynamat or similar products In-Reply-To: <8CE9B6E5068453E-1A68-307B5@webmail-d181.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE9B6E5068453E-1A68-307B5@webmail-d181.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CE9BE1A53BB811-1A70-2CA9D@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: warthodson To: mayorrichard Sent: Sat, Jan 7, 2012 10:12 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dynamat or similar products Almost any product will reduce sound & heat some what, however in my opinion no one product is best at doing both. Sound is generally treated with a dense product. Heat generally requires a lot of small air spaces to retard transmission (conduction) of heat & a reflective surface to reduce radiant heat. Pathways (holes) must be plugged to reduce convection of heat. Generally speaking, there is a limited space in which the materials can be installed. I.E. On top of the floor board & under the carpet. How thick of insulation can you tolerate? Personally, I choose to use the limited space for thermal treatment & not sound. Dense materials like Dynamat are not very good thermal barriers. Ever notice how hard it is to get certified thermal conductivity information from any of the suppliers of this type of product? Also, thermally speaking, what good does it do the put the reflective surface on the passanger side of the insulation? Gary Hodson From cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu Sat Jan 7 23:05:58 2012 From: cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu (Charlie Frazer) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 22:05:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Thanks on Flex Pipe Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for advice on clamping the oil flex pipe. Charlie From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Sun Jan 8 00:06:28 2012 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 02:06:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] list Message-ID: <15b.533dab4.3c3a9a74@aol.com> The same happened to me. I finally went to the website and re-registered there. It was a hassle, but I found the right link and got back on the list but it took me three or four tries before it worked. First go here, _http://autox.team.net_ (http://autox.team.net) and then find the link to the mailing list, click on it and find the healeys list and follow the directions. It worked for me and I got back on and I still haven't been able to find out how or why I got bounced, but I did and now I'm back, so all is good. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 1/7/2012 6:55:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, healeymanjim at hansencc.net writes: was over at jonas payne's today and he stated he had been dropped from the healey list and could not contact anyone to get on again. what does he need to do or can i do it for him. hjim Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/atightprod at aol.com From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jan 8 00:33:21 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 01:33:21 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] list In-Reply-To: <15b.533dab4.3c3a9a74@aol.com> References: <15b.533dab4.3c3a9a74@aol.com> Message-ID: <4F0946C1.8010201@justbrits.com> I'm fresh outta hospital but I HAVE saved some List Mail [couple hundred??]. Are you guys even TRYING to tell me [& rest of List] you haven't saved even ONE (1) post in past year ?!?!? I do NOT believe you if you try ! ! ! Happy New Year [from #2407 Local Hospital ]. Ed From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jan 8 07:04:40 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 09:04:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Motor mounts In-Reply-To: <009e01cccdbd$8440e420$8cc2ac60$@verizon.net> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120107192947.02069730@pop.att.yahoo.com> <009e01cccdbd$8440e420$8cc2ac60$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <000e01ccce0e$76e47750$64ad65f0$@net> The period of time when the engine mounting holes to the engine were slotted diagonally was on the earlier Longbridge built BN4. Therefore they were not handed and could be mounted on either side and had the same part number. Later they decided to make the mounting holes round instead of slotted, and to achieve the necessary degree of engine tilt back, they were now specifically handed and were clearly stamped L/H and R/H on the vertical face between upper and lower holes. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: 2012-01-07 11:25 To: 'john spaur'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Motor mounts Quote from the Archives: The 3000 - 100/6 engine mounts are handed - they are marked either LH or RH. There is a time period where the mounts were made with slotted holes so that they could be used on either the right or the left hand side. I do not know when these slotted versions were made, but they are very apparent to the eye. Perhaps they were the solution to people not realizing the handed properties of the mounts and installing them incorrectly. It is not readily apparent that the /handed mounts are different. Unquote John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john spaur Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:34 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Motor mounts Is there really any difference between the right and left hand engine mounts or are my eyes going bad? 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Webre getting ready for you in Louisville next summer and thanks to our friends at Adam Matthews bakeries we have a special gift for anyone that registers for Conclave 2012 before February 29, 2012. The Kentucky Woods cake! The Kentucky Woods cake is the original, one and only Bourbon Barrel Cake and is a moist brown sugar cake with pure maple and chocolate cake, topped with walnuts, chocolate and caramel bourbon icing. Seven year aged Kentucky bourbon is used to give the cake a very unique nutty maple flavor. Anyone that registers before February 29, 2012 will receive this special gift at registration check-in during Conclave. This is a special limited time offer! Visit www.2012conclave.com for complete information about this yearbs exciting Conclave Event. Bluegrass Austin Healey Club Louisville, KY From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jan 8 09:50:34 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Kees Message-ID: <1371292081.484844.1326041434642.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Haven't heard anything from Kees Oudeslys (sp?) lately. He was a regular and well-informed contributor; wonder if he got bumped off the List. Hopefully, nothing (else) bad has happened to him. Anyone know what's up with him? Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Sun Jan 8 10:20:42 2012 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 12:20:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] list Message-ID: <437.d9aeaf9.3c3b2a6a@aol.com> I save list mail quite often as I find the tips and links here extremely valuable. But this time when I was booted off the list, it wasn't easy to get back on and I still haven't found out why I was booted. I tried to post letters to the list for awhile, only to be told that since I didn't have access to the list, my emails would be held until the "moderator" would give me the yay or nay. I never heard anything back from the moderator, so I guess those emails were either left out in the internet void, or are still sitting in some inbox waiting to be judged. I then followed the instructions given by the website on how to subscribe to the list through email, only to get return emails that _healey at autox.net_ (mailto:healey at autox.net) doesn't exist! Sorry we can't find that forum and we have no record of it! Thinking this is crazy, as I've been sending emails and receiving emails from this list for years, something must be wrong, so I would try again and the same thing would happen! Frustrating. So after many tries and no satisfaction, I went back to the website, from the address I had in my saved mail from the list and found a different way in and it worked! And so after all I went through trying to get back on, I thought I would help someone else with the shortcut and not do the run around dance that I just went through. Just trying to help out. So believe it or not, but it wasn't easy to get back here and now that I have, I'm going to try my darndest to stay. This list keeps me informed, keeps me entertained and sometimes I hope that what I post even helps someone else as it always seems I am on the receiving end of advice and/or tips, because of the vast and superior knowledge I have encountered here. It's not quite Schindler's List, "The list is life!", but it's close for me and has helped me keep my car on the road and that's something I never want to lose. So Ed, Happy New Year right back at cha', hope your stay in the hospital was short and successful and if you ever get booted off the list for any reason and get a bit frustrated trying to jump through hoops just to get back on, save this email with my address, as you can contact me and I will help you anyway I can to get you back on this wonderful list we have. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 1/7/2012 11:33:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, shop at justbrits.com writes: I'm fresh outta hospital but I HAVE saved some List Mail [couple hundred??]. Are you guys even TRYING to tell me [& rest of List] you haven't saved even ONE (1) post in past year ?!?!? I do NOT believe you if you try ! ! ! Happy New Year [from #2407 Local Hospital ]. Ed From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sun Jan 8 10:56:01 2012 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:56:01 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Kees In-Reply-To: <1371292081.484844.1326041434642.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1371292081.484844.1326041434642.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <000001ccce2e$cee45630$6cad0290$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Didn't he finish his 3000 resto, keep it for only a short while, sell it and move on? Of course, he may be a quiet lurker only nowadays. Pity if he's gone as he was a nice bloke. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: 08 January 2012 16:51 To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Kees Haven't heard anything from Kees Oudeslys (sp?) lately. He was a regular and well-informed contributor; wonder if he got bumped off the List. Hopefully, nothing (else) bad has happened to him. Anyone know what's up with him? Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Jan 8 11:27:06 2012 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:27:06 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Kees In-Reply-To: <1371292081.484844.1326041434642.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1371292081.484844.1326041434642.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4F09DFFA.2000709@chello.nl> All is well here. I have been thrown of the list for a while (no idea why) but I rejoined a week or so ago. Apparently this happened to several "foreigners". I wish you all a very prosperous 2012. Kees Oudesluijs NL Op 8-1-2012 17:50, Bob Spidell schreef: > Haven't heard anything from Kees Oudeslys (sp?) lately. He was a regular and well-informed contributor; wonder if he got bumped off the List. Hopefully, nothing (else) bad has happened to him. > > Anyone know what's up with him? > > Bob > > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2012.0.1901 / Virusdatabase: 2109/4729 - datum van uitgifte: 01/07/12 From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jan 8 11:52:33 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 11:52:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] list In-Reply-To: <437.d9aeaf9.3c3b2a6a@aol.com> References: <437.d9aeaf9.3c3b2a6a@aol.com> Message-ID: <4F09E5F1.3070801@bradakis.com> I imagine that Ed is referring to the fact that EACH and EVERY healey message for quite some time has had the following line it near the bottom: http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Seems to me that would be a good place to start if you have list troubles. mjb. From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Sun Jan 8 11:58:29 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:58:29 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Kees In-Reply-To: <000001ccce2e$cee45630$6cad0290$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <1371292081.484844.1326041434642.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <000001ccce2e$cee45630$6cad0290$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Siman, I think you mix that up with Jack Aeckerlin. Jack did a very detailed BJ8 restoration, but unfortunately sold his car later on. Kees Oudehuis had no Austin-Healey as far as I know. He owned a Jensen Healey amongst other cars. But can`t tell you what happened to him. Josef Eckert -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Simon Lachlan Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. Januar 2012 18:56 An: 'Bob Spidell'; 'healeys' Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Kees Didn't he finish his 3000 resto, keep it for only a short while, sell it and move on? Of course, he may be a quiet lurker only nowadays. Pity if he's gone as he was a nice bloke. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: 08 January 2012 16:51 To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Kees Haven't heard anything from Kees Oudeslys (sp?) lately. He was a regular and well-informed contributor; wonder if he got bumped off the List. Hopefully, nothing (else) bad has happened to him. Anyone know what's up with him? Bob From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jan 8 12:22:42 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 12:22:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] list In-Reply-To: <4F09E5F1.3070801@bradakis.com> References: <437.d9aeaf9.3c3b2a6a@aol.com> <4F09E5F1.3070801@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <4F09ED02.5050706@bradakis.com> By the way, I am *finally* doing some updating of www.team.net to reflect the use of mailman as the list software, not the old majordomo. Actually I think there are still a few lists I have not yet migrated. Maybe I'll work on that during breaks in the Steelers game. mjb. From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 12:18:02 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:18:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Kees In-Reply-To: <4F09DFFA.2000709@chello.nl> References: <1371292081.484844.1326041434642.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4F09DFFA.2000709@chello.nl> Message-ID: Don't feel special Kees, I too was banished...I think Mark finally built the new server ...... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jan 8, 2012 10:27 AM, "Oudesluys" wrote: > All is well here. I have been thrown of the list for a while (no idea why) > but I rejoined a week or so ago. Apparently this happened to several > "foreigners". > I wish you all a very prosperous 2012. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > > Op 8-1-2012 17:50, Bob Spidell schreef: > >> Haven't heard anything from Kees Oudeslys (sp?) lately. He was a regular >> and well-informed contributor; wonder if he got bumped off the List. >> Hopefully, nothing (else) bad has happened to him. >> >> Anyone know what's up with him? >> >> Bob >> >> >> ------------------------------**-- >> Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/healeys/coudesluijs@**chello.nl >> >> >> >> ----- >> Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. >> Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com >> Versie: 2012.0.1901 / Virusdatabase: 2109/4729 - datum van uitgifte: >> 01/07/12 >> > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/eyera3000@**gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jan 8 12:30:31 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Kees In-Reply-To: <4F09DFFA.2000709@chello.nl> Message-ID: <1599600028.490016.1326051031234.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Welcome back and same to you. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" To: "Bob Spidell" Cc: "healeys" Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 10:27:06 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Kees All is well here. I have been thrown of the list for a while (no idea why) but I rejoined a week or so ago. Apparently this happened to several "foreigners". I wish you all a very prosperous 2012. Kees Oudesluijs NL Op 8-1-2012 17:50, Bob Spidell schreef: > Haven't heard anything from Kees Oudeslys (sp?) lately. He was a regular and well-informed contributor; wonder if he got bumped off the List. Hopefully, nothing (else) bad has happened to him. > > Anyone know what's up with him? > > Bob > > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2012.0.1901 / Virusdatabase: 2109/4729 - datum van uitgifte: 01/07/12 From 57healey at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 12:33:16 2012 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:33:16 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Kees In-Reply-To: References: <1371292081.484844.1326041434642.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <000001ccce2e$cee45630$6cad0290$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: Lots of people that have been here for years are still here, just lurking. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:58:29 To: ; Subject: Re: [Healeys] Kees Hi Siman, I think you mix that up with Jack Aeckerlin. Jack did a very detailed BJ8 restoration, but unfortunately sold his car later on. Kees Oudehuis had no Austin-Healey as far as I know. He owned a Jensen Healey amongst other cars. But can`t tell you what happened to him. Josef Eckert -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Simon Lachlan Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. Januar 2012 18:56 An: 'Bob Spidell'; 'healeys' Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Kees Didn't he finish his 3000 resto, keep it for only a short while, sell it and move on? Of course, he may be a quiet lurker only nowadays. Pity if he's gone as he was a nice bloke. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: 08 January 2012 16:51 To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Kees Haven't heard anything from Kees Oudeslys (sp?) lately. He was a regular and well-informed contributor; wonder if he got bumped off the List. Hopefully, nothing (else) bad has happened to him. Anyone know what's up with him? Bob _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/57healey at gmail.com From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Jan 8 13:10:58 2012 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg at juno.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 15:10:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Kees Message-ID: <20120108.121115.3053.97728@mailpop22.dca.untd.com> And that's no BS!! :) > Welcome back and same to you. > > Bob > > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Oudesluys" > To: "Bob Spidell" > Cc: "healeys" > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 10:27:06 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Kees > > All is well here. I have been thrown of the list for a while (no > idea > why) but I rejoined a week or so ago. Apparently this happened to > several "foreigners". > I wish you all a very prosperous 2012. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > > Op 8-1-2012 17:50, Bob Spidell schreef: > > Haven't heard anything from Kees Oudeslys (sp?) lately. He was a > regular and well-informed contributor; wonder if he got bumped off > the List. Hopefully, nothing (else) bad has happened to him. > > > > Anyone know what's up with him? > > > > Bob > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > > > > > > > ----- > > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > > Versie: 2012.0.1901 / Virusdatabase: 2109/4729 - datum van > uitgifte: 01/07/12 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > nsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dwflagg at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f09f89d4d31314df309st01duc From caddi5 at comcast.net Sun Jan 8 14:16:11 2012 From: caddi5 at comcast.net (caddi5 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Anyone live near Albertville,Al. Message-ID: <382869520.546348.1326057371505.JavaMail.root@sz0050a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I need someone to pick-up and ship a couple of parts for me..........they are located near Albertville,Alabama............I am in Detriot,Michigan Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Mitch Simmons 1959 BN4 From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Sun Jan 8 17:10:23 2012 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:10:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Any Healey, Triumph or MG owner in Santiago Chile Message-ID: <1326067823.74264.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I need a Healey, Triumph or MG owner in Santiago Chile Thanks, Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Jan 8 18:10:23 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:10:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] list In-Reply-To: <4F09ED02.5050706@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1326071423.67307.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Something tells me team.net is going to have to take up a collection to replace the plasma that Mark just put his foot through. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Mark J Bradakis wrote: From: Mark J Bradakis Subject: Re: [Healeys] list To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 2:22 PM By the way, I am *finally* doing some updating of www.team.net to reflect the use of mailman as the list software, not the old majordomo. Actually I think there are still a few lists I have not yet migrated. Maybe I'll work on that during breaks in the Steelers game. mjb. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sun Jan 8 18:45:28 2012 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:45:28 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?healey_for_sale?= Message-ID: <20120109014528.6513.qmail@server278.com> in order to get some room for another project, i am going to have to sell my BN6. it is mechanically and cosmetically excellent with only about 2000 miles on it since i restored it. i am putting it on the list before i take any other action to sell it in case anyone knows someone looking for a real nice healey. can send truckloads of pictures if interested. contact me off list. healeymanjim From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jan 8 19:09:56 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:09:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] list In-Reply-To: <1326071423.67307.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1326071423.67307.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F0A4C74.3010703@bradakis.com> HealeyRick wrote: > Something tells me team.net is going to have to take up a collection > to replace the plasma that Mark just put his foot through. > > Rick > Naw, I don't get that wrapped up in football, no violent reactions to a losing game. I have some beers in the fridge to cry into, though I wish I had a bottle of good single malt or my favorite bourbon, Woodford Reserve. A wee nip would be nice. But this isn't the single-malt list. As for plasma? Right. I actually have an ancient 19 analog set with just a roof mounted antenna. My wife and I don't watch much television, maybe some evening news during dinner and occasional specials. I do watch some shows on my computer like old Rifleman, Bat Masterson, McHale's Navy as well as more current offerings like Hell's Kitchen, Iron Chef and some other cooking related shows. Too much time whacking on Team.Net to get in much TV! mjb. From Healey100M at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 20:33:21 2012 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:33:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Paint Codes Message-ID: <615E3A27-6659-4E91-A822-EF93117480A5@gmail.com> Hi, a Healey friend, off list, is in the need of paint codes for Colorado Red & Reno Red. Can anyone help? (Lots of discussion on OEW in archives but not much on Red) TIA, Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M White/Black '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (for sale) '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Sun Jan 8 20:54:22 2012 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 03:54:22 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat & other products Message-ID: Thanks to all for your valuable input. I am restoring (a resto mod) my 1954 Jag MK 7, 401 Buick nailhead V-8, Vintage Air A/C, all GM running gear, steering, brakes and suspension. I have owned it and driven it for the last 27 years. I have towed my race-car behind this beast for many years in the 90's and even ended up in Classic and Thoroughbred Cars magazine about 15 years ago as their featured tow vehicle in one month's issue. I want my baby to be as quite and comfortable as a modern car in it's latest incarnation. It appears that I will have to use a combination of both thermal and acoustic products to achieve these goals. Thank you all for your assistance. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon From bertvanbrande at yahoo.com Sun Jan 8 21:43:55 2012 From: bertvanbrande at yahoo.com (Bert Van Brande) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:43:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine - restarting follow up. Message-ID: <1326084235.55026.YahooMailNeo@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Happy New Year, I was off the list early this week/year thanks to a broken computer. (needed partial restoration) Follow up on my 100 BN2 engine re-starting process. Engine sat for 20 years after a rebuild by the PO (mythical figure) and a restoration that never finished. It ran perfectly fine 8.5 years ago when I bought the car after a check-up and rebuild of carbs/dist. Then I disassembled the car and started a full restoration about 6-7 years ago... Fast forward: Charlie Hart came by last friday with an external oil pump. You might know Charlie from his long yearly road-trip adventures he posts as BLU HLY or from his technical excellence. We both live on the far north side of the SoCal Healey club and I take every opportunity to learn from him. The oil pump is made with a 1/2 drill, a love-joy coupler, a gear pump, a pressure regulator and gauge, tubing and an adaptor that fits on a spin-on filter adaptor. We pumped a quart of Valvoline VR1 Racing oil at 40 psi till slow drips came from all the rockers. Charlie's setup is excellent for this job. Now as far as we can tell bearings are lubricated before the engine actually turns over. The engine will go in the car later this week. Photo of the oil pump and engine at: http://www.austin-healey.org/node/4943 Big thanks to Charlie for all his help. Bert 56 100 BN2 From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jan 8 22:41:16 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:41:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] list In-Reply-To: <20120108023855.13251.qmail@server278.com> References: <20120108023855.13251.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4F0A7DFC.5030900@bradakis.com> To return to the original question if Jonas Payne can't get http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo to work, I can add his email address by hand. mjb. From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Mon Jan 9 01:38:46 2012 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:38:46 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Paint Codes In-Reply-To: <615E3A27-6659-4E91-A822-EF93117480A5@gmail.com> References: <615E3A27-6659-4E91-A822-EF93117480A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Colorado Red: Mfg. Code: RD.02, ICI Code: 3742 Reno red: Mfg. Code: RD.14, ICI Code: 3000 Magnus Karlsson www.concourshealeys.com 9 jan 2012 kl. 04:33 skrev Randy Hicks: > Hi, a Healey friend, off list, is in the need of paint codes for Colorado Red > & Reno Red. > > Can anyone help? (Lots of discussion on OEW in archives but not much on Red) > > TIA, > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100 M White/Black > '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW > '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (for sale) > '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/magnuskarlsson at bornet.net From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 07:47:00 2012 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 08:47:00 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch Message-ID: I recently discovered how easy it was to add a fuel pump switch and thought it was a good idea. However, why not put it in the switched hot lead to shut off whatever goes hot when the ignition is turned on? As I recently mentioned, the switched hot lead only closes a relay which then powers the added fuse block. I don't see a current problem, but just wondering why it isn't generally done. Jack From kentmclean at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 07:54:21 2012 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:54:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dynamat& other products In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F0AFF9D.3090004@comcast.net> richard mayor wrote: > It appears that I will have to use a combination of both thermal and acoustic > products to achieve these goals. Thank you all for your assistance. Was it this list the mentioned Lizardskin? I haven't used it, NFI, etc., but it may be worth looking into. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From eandy01 at msn.com Mon Jan 9 07:55:51 2012 From: eandy01 at msn.com (EDWARD ANDERSON) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 14:55:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Car insurance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Need the name of the company that offers the best coverage/price for our cars. Just bought my 5th, a 1959. It's been 30 years since my last one. Thx From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 08:27:48 2012 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 07:27:48 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Car insurance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: very happy w Hagerty ron Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:55 AM, EDWARD ANDERSON wrote: > Need the name of the company that offers the best coverage/price for our > cars. Just bought my 5th, a 1959. It's been 30 years since my last one. Thx > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/f.ronald.rader at gmail.com From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 08:53:47 2012 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:53:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Inertia switches are usually used in racing situations where in the event of a crash power to the fuel pump is shut off. You can also install a low-oil pressure switch so that in case the engine is shut down the fuel pump is not energized and that will accomplish much the same thing. Best--Michael Oritt On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Jack Feldman wrote: > I recently discovered how easy it was to add a fuel pump switch and thought > it was a good idea. > > However, why not put it in the switched hot lead to shut off whatever goes > hot when the ignition is turned on? > > As I recently mentioned, the switched hot lead only closes a relay which > then powers the added fuse block. I don't see a current problem, but just > wondering why it isn't generally done. > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 9 10:07:34 2012 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:07:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] healey for sale References: <20120109014528.6513.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <001a01cccef1$2ea92920$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> So what do we call you if your not healeyman any more? Jim? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 8:45 PM Subject: [Healeys] healey for sale > in order to get some room for another project, i am going to have to sell > my BN6. it is mechanically and cosmetically excellent with only about > 2000 miles on it since i restored it. i am putting it on the list before > i take any other action to sell it in case anyone knows someone looking > for a real nice healey. can send truckloads of pictures if interested. > contact me off list. healeymanjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 9 10:17:24 2012 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:17:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Car insurance References: Message-ID: <002901cccef2$8eec9aa0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Haggerty. ----- Original Message ----- From: "EDWARD ANDERSON" To: Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: [Healeys] Car insurance > Need the name of the company that offers the best coverage/price for our > cars. Just bought my 5th, a 1959. It's been 30 years since my last one. > Thx > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 9 10:42:47 2012 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:42:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All new cars since about 1980 have had a way to shut off the fuel in case of an accident if the car was equipped with an electric fuel pump. Most have an inertia switch in the power side going to the fuel pump relay, they usually are mounted on the inside kick panel behind the upholstery trim. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jan 9, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Michael Oritt wrote: > Inertia switches are usually used in racing situations where in the > event > of a crash power to the fuel pump is shut off. You can also install a > low-oil pressure switch so that in case the engine is shut down the > fuel > pump is not energized and that will accomplish much the same thing. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Jack Feldman > wrote: > >> I recently discovered how easy it was to add a fuel pump switch >> and thought >> it was a good idea. >> >> However, why not put it in the switched hot lead to shut off >> whatever goes >> hot when the ignition is turned on? >> >> As I recently mentioned, the switched hot lead only closes a relay >> which >> then powers the added fuse block. I don't see a current problem, >> but just >> wondering why it isn't generally done. >> >> Jack >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From JPayne at ThorCon.net Mon Jan 9 10:44:30 2012 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:44:30 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Car insurance In-Reply-To: <002901cccef2$8eec9aa0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <002901cccef2$8eec9aa0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226E01A19103@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> I'll second that. I have 5 cars with them, price is right and service is excellent. Jonas Payne Vice President of Preconstruction Thor Construction PH: (702) 269-2007 Fax: (702) 269-7095 Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark LaPierre Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:17 AM To: EDWARD ANDERSON; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car insurance Haggerty. ----- Original Message ----- From: "EDWARD ANDERSON" To: Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: [Healeys] Car insurance > Need the name of the company that offers the best coverage/price for our > cars. Just bought my 5th, a 1959. It's been 30 years since my last one. > Thx > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 9 12:31:16 2012 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:31:16 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F03B87F-039D-44B9-8CA5-E88DDF6676C0@sbcglobal.net> Most inertia switches will have a button on the top the will pop up in an accident or hard impact to the car somewhere. This could be anything from an accident to a large pot hole in our wonderful roads. The power to the fuel pump or fuel pump relay will go thru the inertia switch and when the switch is tripped it will cut the power to the fuel pump. Inertia switches are installed on a solid part of the chassis usually inside on the inner kick panel for access. This could also be used as a security device when parking our Healey's. You could wire the power to the fuel pump as well as the power to the ignition coil thru an inertia switch mounted up under the dash. When you park the car and want it to be secured somewhat raise the button on the inertia switch and the car will not start. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jan 9, 2012, at 10:37 AM, F Ronald Rader wrote: > David: > for those of us the are mechanically inept, can you explain how it > works? > tnx > ron rader > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM, David Nock > wrote: >> >> All new cars since about 1980 have had a way to shut off the fuel in >> case of an accident if the car was equipped with an electric fuel >> pump. Most have an inertia switch in the power side going to the fuel >> pump relay, they usually are mounted on the inside kick panel behind >> the upholstery trim. From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 12:56:57 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <393090289.536024.1326139017150.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Now if we only had a way to shut off those dang lithium batteries ... Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- All new cars since about 1980 have had a way to shut off the fuel in case of an accident if the car was equipped with an electric fuel pump. Most have an inertia switch in the power side going to the fuel pump relay, they usually are mounted on the inside kick panel behind the upholstery trim. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Jan 9 13:49:04 2012 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:49:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch In-Reply-To: <4F03B87F-039D-44B9-8CA5-E88DDF6676C0@sbcglobal.net> References: <4F03B87F-039D-44B9-8CA5-E88DDF6676C0@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <003e01cccf10$1f9274e0$5eb75ea0$@rr.com> When I installed a backup fuel pump in my BJ8, I also wired in a used inertia (rollover) switch from an MGB to cut power to both pumps in case of rollover. As David says, pulling up the switch manually serves as another security measure to keep power from the pumps. Once pulled up, the switch stays there until pushed down again. I mounted the switch to the heater duct under the dash. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:31 PM To: F Ronald Rader; Healey List List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch Most inertia switches will have a button on the top the will pop up in an accident or hard impact to the car somewhere. This could be anything from an accident to a large pot hole in our wonderful roads. The power to the fuel pump or fuel pump relay will go thru the inertia switch and when the switch is tripped it will cut the power to the fuel pump. Inertia switches are installed on a solid part of the chassis usually inside on the inner kick panel for access. This could also be used as a security device when parking our Healey's. You could wire the power to the fuel pump as well as the power to the ignition coil thru an inertia switch mounted up under the dash. When you park the car and want it to be secured somewhat raise the button on the inertia switch and the car will not start. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jan 9, 2012, at 10:37 AM, F Ronald Rader wrote: > David: > for those of us the are mechanically inept, can you explain how it > works? > tnx > ron rader > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM, David Nock > wrote: >> >> All new cars since about 1980 have had a way to shut off the fuel in >> case of an accident if the car was equipped with an electric fuel >> pump. Most have an inertia switch in the power side going to the fuel >> pump relay, they usually are mounted on the inside kick panel behind >> the upholstery trim. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sbyers at ec.rr.com From jwbn6 at verizon.net Mon Jan 9 15:08:59 2012 From: jwbn6 at verizon.net (jerry wall) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:08:59 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Healeys] Car insurance Message-ID: <2441158.278460.1326146939818.JavaMail.root@vms170033> From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Jan 9 18:29:30 2012 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:29:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch In-Reply-To: <4F0B6E84.7090802@earthlink.net> References: <4F03B87F-039D-44B9-8CA5-E88DDF6676C0@sbcglobal.net> <003e01cccf10$1f9274e0$5eb75ea0$@rr.com> <4F0B6E84.7090802@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000301cccf37$4ce85ff0$e6b91fd0$@rr.com> Bob, what does it leak? Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: Bob Haskell [mailto:rchaskell at earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 5:48 PM To: BJ8 Healeys Cc: 'Healey List List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch I've been told by a MG mechanic that the MGB rollover switch does tend to leak in it's old age and have bypassed the one in our 80 MG. David Nock - any experience one way or the other? Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php From healeydoc at verizon.net Mon Jan 9 20:04:04 2012 From: healeydoc at verizon.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:04:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1E74B2A4-EDA9-4D1F-AD69-9B9C70DD1131@verizon.net> On the MGB there are two switches. There is an electrical switch that shuts off the electricity, then there is a mechanical roll over switch that is in the fuel line. The mechanical switches do have a problem with leaking David Nock healeydoc at verizon.net On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:47 AM, Jack Feldman wrote: > I recently discovered how easy it was to add a fuel pump switch and thought > it was a good idea. > > However, why not put it in the switched hot lead to shut off whatever goes > hot when the ignition is turned on? > > As I recently mentioned, the switched hot lead only closes a relay which > then powers the added fuse block. I don't see a current problem, but just > wondering why it isn't generally done. > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at verizon.net From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 20:46:56 2012 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:46:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch In-Reply-To: <000301cccf37$4ce85ff0$e6b91fd0$@rr.com> References: <4F03B87F-039D-44B9-8CA5-E88DDF6676C0@sbcglobal.net> <003e01cccf10$1f9274e0$5eb75ea0$@rr.com> <4F0B6E84.7090802@earthlink.net> <000301cccf37$4ce85ff0$e6b91fd0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <8DF561CC-F358-4D81-BD7E-2670B8C6EAAD@gmail.com> It's Lucas. The answer is obvious, electrons. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2012, at 17:29, "BJ8 Healeys" wrote: > Bob, what does it leak? > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Haskell [mailto:rchaskell at earthlink.net] > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 5:48 PM > To: BJ8 Healeys > Cc: 'Healey List List' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch > > I've been told by a MG mechanic that the MGB rollover switch does tend > to leak in it's old age and have bypassed the one in our 80 MG. > > David Nock - any experience one way or the other? > > > Bob Haskell > AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar > http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From ynotink at msn.com Mon Jan 9 21:43:27 2012 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:43:27 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] healey for sale In-Reply-To: <001a01cccef1$2ea92920$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <20120109014528.6513.qmail@server278.com>, <001a01cccef1$2ea92920$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: Why would you think he only has one? Bill LawrenceBN1 #554 > From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > To: healeymanjim at hansencc.net; healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:07:34 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey for sale > > So what do we call you if your not healeyman any more? Jim? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 8:45 PM > Subject: [Healeys] healey for sale > > > > in order to get some room for another project, i am going to have to sell > > my BN6. it is mechanically and cosmetically excellent with only about > > 2000 miles on it since i restored it. i am putting it on the list before > > i take any other action to sell it in case anyone knows someone looking > > for a real nice healey. can send truckloads of pictures if interested. > > contact me off list. healeymanjim > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com From ynotink at msn.com Mon Jan 9 21:44:38 2012 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:44:38 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch In-Reply-To: <8DF561CC-F358-4D81-BD7E-2670B8C6EAAD@gmail.com> References: , , , , <4F03B87F-039D-44B9-8CA5-E88DDF6676C0@sbcglobal.net>, <003e01cccf10$1f9274e0$5eb75ea0$@rr.com>, <4F0B6E84.7090802@earthlink.net>, <000301cccf37$4ce85ff0$e6b91fd0$@rr.com>, <8DF561CC-F358-4D81-BD7E-2670B8C6EAAD@gmail.com> Message-ID: Don't you mean smoke? Bill Lawrence > From: richard.ewald at gmail.com > Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:46:56 -0800 > To: sbyers at ec.rr.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch > > It's Lucas. The answer is obvious, electrons. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 9, 2012, at 17:29, "BJ8 Healeys" wrote: > > > Bob, what does it leak? > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > Havelock, NC USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bob Haskell [mailto:rchaskell at earthlink.net] > > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 5:48 PM > > To: BJ8 Healeys > > Cc: 'Healey List List' > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Pump Inertia Switch > > > > I've been told by a MG mechanic that the MGB rollover switch does tend > > to leak in it's old age and have bypassed the one in our 80 MG. > > > > David Nock - any experience one way or the other? > > > > > > Bob Haskell > > AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar > > http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com From rnbmail at yahoo.com Mon Jan 9 21:59:58 2012 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:59:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Car insurance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1326171598.5259.YahooMailClassic@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My State Farm Ins in CA with 20 years of good history is $150/half year for 55K agreed replacement value. Better than the classic car folks in this area. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com --- On Mon, 1/9/12, EDWARD ANDERSON wrote: > From: EDWARD ANDERSON > Subject: [Healeys] Car insurance > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, January 9, 2012, 6:55 AM > Need the name of the company that > offers the best coverage/price for our > cars. Just bought my 5th, a 1959. It's been 30 years since > my last one. Thx > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rnbmail at yahoo.com From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Tue Jan 10 13:36:18 2012 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:36:18 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Electroless nickel plating Message-ID: Has anyone used the Caswell electroless nickel plating kit from Caswell? I have a number of small parts that I would like to have that look of nickel rather than the look of zinc. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 14:19:46 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:19:46 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Electroless nickel plating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dick, I've been using Caswell's Copy Cad for many years and it's an excellent home plating kit... HOWEVER, it takes some skill, practice, and patience to get the results you want. Follow the directions as written, take your time, and be meticulously clean and you should get professional results. Cheers, Curt On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 12:36 PM, richard mayor wrote: > Has anyone used the Caswell electroless nickel plating kit from Caswell? I > have a number of small parts that I would like to have that look of nickel > rather than the look of zinc. > > > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 10 15:01:43 2012 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:01:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Possible explanation on the Petronix positive ground and Smith loop style Tach Message-ID: <1326232903.98372.YahooMailRC@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> A club member recently installed a Petronix ignition in his positive ground BJ8, Car fine s fine but the tachometer does not operate. This is of course because it is not connected. Several attempts to wire to operate the tach ahve proven unsuccessful. He has talked with Petronix tech support but they could not provide a definitive answer. I'm sure there are many positive ground BJ8's in the owrld that have properly functioning tachometers. What is the wiring?? Our club member sent me the following, which he now believes to be his best and possibly only option. I'm sure Niosonger knows more about this than I do but I have never heard that a paoistive ground BJ8 tach will not work unless rebuilt as they state. A fair amount of cash has recently gone into this car and I hate to see him spend more needlessly. Any comments? Bob "I spoke to the owner at Nisonger Instruments. They rebuild the Smith gagues...Anyway...I mentioned I was going to sen him my tach and speedo for rebuilding this winter...he casually asked about if I had converted to electronic distributor...and the truth came out. The Petronix he says is not compatible with the loop tach style Smith gauge. So they can rebuild the tach...to look authentic, but add electronics. See link below. He said they rebuild a few hundred a year like this. Not sure why it is not common knowledge. So as you saw with my car...if you wire the coil and distributor as Petronix instructs...it works fine...you do have to remove the wires from the harness that used to terminate at the coil. But apparently you no amount of tweaking will get the old tach to work." http://www.nisonger.com/electric-tachometer-conversions.htm From eandy01 at msn.com Tue Jan 10 18:13:42 2012 From: eandy01 at msn.com (EDWARD ANDERSON) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:13:42 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to all who replied. Hagerty won 6 to 2. Called them to get coverage and got a very good price/coverage. From 57healey at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 18:41:06 2012 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:41:06 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Early 100-Six Racing In-Reply-To: <8CE9E10747FEA1E-1BE8-6B298@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE9E10747FEA1E-1BE8-6B298@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: What a wonderful article about your Grandmother! I never found more information after that post 6 years ago I know the Healey list strips attachments, but with your permission I can post it so everyone else can read it. Thanks! Patton Dickson Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Ms. K.S.Bostic, MBA" Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:38:22 To: <57healey at gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Early 100-Six Racing Hello, I am the grandaughter of LaRuth Bostic. I believe the attached is confirmation of " a interesting and notable piece of history". I hope this information is helpful. Feel free to reach out to me with any questions or concerns. Sincerly, Ms.K.S.Bostic,MBA Early 100-Six Racing from [Patton Dickson] [Permanent Link][Original] To: Healey List Subject: Early 100-Six Racing From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:44:56 -0500 While doing a little more digging on early 100-Six racing, I found a list of many SCCA races listing the entrants along with car for 1957 (LOTS of Healeys). If you follow this link http://wsrp.wz.cz/natus1957.html#179 , it lists La Ruth Bostic driving a 100-6 in 3 races at Riverside in 1957 I decided to see who she was I came across this link http://www.mshf.com/cgi/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=categories&action=display&num=1093626162 referring to a LaRuth Bostic (slightly different spelling) as being the first African-American female race car driver. Does anyone know about this, its an interesting and notable piece of history if it can be confirmed. Patton -- Patton Dickson - '57 A-H 100-Six Homepage - http://Austin-Healeys.com/ From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jan 10 18:41:51 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Possible explanation on the Petronix positive ground and Smith loop style Tach In-Reply-To: <1326232903.98372.YahooMailRC@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <994987662.609506.1326246111875.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Unless Pertronix has changed the Ignitor design in the 8-10 years since I installed mine, it will work with a Smiths electronic tach on a pos-ground car. Mine works fine and, in fact, since I calibrated it is absolutely spot on accurate and stable. Hard to believe, I know, but it is as verified by my Sears dwell-tach and by inference with the GPS/speedometer/gearing/etc. All I recall doing was reversing the loop formed by the white wire on the back of the tach, but I might have rerouted the white wire. Sorry, I don't have a schematic, but the thing to think about is the Ignitor switches battery current to the coil--you have to provide an alternative ground to the coil (I used the notorious battery cutoff switch and white/black coil ground wire moved to a different terminal on the switch)--whereas points make and break a circuit to ground from the coil. The tach is probably (has to be) wired in series with the coil and the points, so you may (probably) have to change the routing of the white wire. I did not remove any wires from my harness; just rerouted them so that I can easily go back to points in an emergency. The loop on the back of the tach is an inductive pickup. If switched current flows through the wire--with the proper polarity--the tach will work. The needle on the tach moves in proportion to the frequency of the current pulses (in effect, it is a simple frequency counter). Not that I doubt a reputable outfit like Nisonger, but the Ignitor I ('one') is hardly more than an electronic points set (with some inductive-capacitive circuitry to even out 'dwell'). Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- A club member recently installed a Petronix ignition in his positive ground BJ8, Car fine s fine but the tachometer does not operate. This is of course because it is not connected. Several attempts to wire to operate the tach ahve proven unsuccessful. He has talked with Petronix tech support but they could not provide a definitive answer. I'm sure there are many positive ground BJ8's in the owrld that have properly functioning tachometers. What is the wiring?? From gmandas at yahoo.com Tue Jan 10 18:49:16 2012 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:49:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Healeys In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1326246556.96115.YahooMailClassic@web65905.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Check out the towing packages. For a nominal fee they'll tow any of my cars, not just the Healey. --- On Tue, 1/10/12, EDWARD ANDERSON wrote: > From: EDWARD ANDERSON > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2012, 8:13 PM > Thanks to all who replied. Hagerty > won 6 to 2. Called them to get coverage and > got a very good price/coverage. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Tue Jan 10 19:18:45 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:18:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Early 100-Six Racing In-Reply-To: <20120111020122.7082E1878B5@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <1326248325.43389.YahooMailClassic@web161211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Patton, This is really interesting. I started a thread here on "celebrity" Healey owners: http://tinyurl.com/7ysqexo I'd love to learn more about an African-American Healey pilot. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Tue, 1/10/12, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early 100-Six Racing To: "Ms. K.S.Bostic, MBA" Cc: "Healey List" Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2012, 8:41 PM What a wonderful article about your Grandmother! I never found more information after that post 6 years ago I know the Healey list strips attachments, but with your permission I can post it so everyone else can read it. Thanks! Patton Dickson Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Ms. K.S.Bostic, MBA" Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:38:22 To: <57healey at gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Early 100-Six Racing Hello, I am the grandaughter of LaRuth Bostic. I believe the attached is confirmation of " a interesting and notable piece of history". I hope this information is helpful. Feel free to reach out to me with any questions or concerns. Sincerly, Ms.K.S.Bostic,MBA Early 100-Six Racing from [Patton Dickson] [Permanent Link][Original] To: Healey List Subject: Early 100-Six Racing From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:44:56 -0500 While doing a little more digging on early 100-Six racing, I found a list of many SCCA races listing the entrants along with car for 1957 (LOTS of Healeys). If you follow this link http://wsrp.wz.cz/natus1957.html#179 , it lists La Ruth Bostic driving a 100-6 in 3 races at Riverside in 1957 I decided to see who she was I came across this link http://www.mshf.com/cgi/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=categories&action=display&num=109 3626162 referring to a LaRuth Bostic (slightly different spelling) as being the first African-American female race car driver. Does anyone know about this, its an interesting and notable piece of history if it can be confirmed. Patton -- Patton Dickson - '57 A-H 100-Six Homepage - http://Austin-Healeys.com/ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu Tue Jan 10 19:19:16 2012 From: cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu (Charlie Frazer) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:19:16 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Possible explanation on the Petronix positive ground and Smith loop style Tach In-Reply-To: <1326232903.98372.YahooMailRC@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1326232903.98372.YahooMailRC@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03809781-B187-43EB-A957-D3EA07A8E3BD@jcomm.uoregon.edu> This is an odd issue. I've known a number of people (myself included) who run positive ground Healeys and Pertronix ignition with no special tach rebuilds. Charlie On Jan 10, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Bob Brown wrote: A club member recently installed a Petronix ignition in his positive ground BJ8, Car fine s fine but the tachometer does not operate. This is of course because it is not connected. Several attempts to wire to operate the tach ahve proven unsuccessful. He has talked with Petronix tech support but they could not provide a definitive answer. I'm sure there are many positive ground BJ8's in the owrld that have properly functioning tachometers. What is the wiring?? Our club member sent me the following, which he now believes to be his best and possibly only option. I'm sure Niosonger knows more about this than I do but I have never heard that a paoistive ground BJ8 tach will not work unless rebuilt as they state. A fair amount of cash has recently gone into this car and I hate to see him spend more needlessly. Any comments? Bob "I spoke to the owner at Nisonger Instruments. They rebuild the Smith gagues...Anyway...I mentioned I was going to sen him my tach and speedo for rebuilding this winter...he casually asked about if I had converted to electronic distributor...and the truth came out. The Petronix he says is not compatible with the loop tach style Smith gauge. So they can rebuild the tach...to look authentic, but add electronics. See link below. He said they rebuild a few hundred a year like this. Not sure why it is not common knowledge. So as you saw with my car...if you wire the coil and distributor as Petronix instructs...it works fine...you do have to remove the wires from the harness that used to terminate at the coil. But apparently you no amount of tweaking will get the old tach to work." http://www.nisonger.com/electric-tachometer-conversions.htm Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu From mark at bradakis.com Tue Jan 10 19:30:26 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:30:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Early 100-Six Racing In-Reply-To: <20120111020131.CA713187935@autox.team.net> References: <8CE9E10747FEA1E-1BE8-6B298@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> <20120111020131.CA713187935@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4F0CF442.4060202@bradakis.com> Patton Dickson wrote: > What a wonderful article about your Grandmother! I never found more information after that post 6 years ago > > I know the Healey list strips attachments, but with your permission I can post it so everyone else can read it. > > Once again I'll reiterate. The email lists DO NOT ALLOW attachments. One can go tohttp://www.team.net/forums ( link also below ) and register. Once you get your username and password you can post pictures. Then send a short note to the email list informing folks. Personally I wish the forum was used all the time instead of email, but that ain't gonna happen. Oh well. mjb. From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jan 10 20:59:35 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:59:35 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Early 100-Six Racing In-Reply-To: <4F0CF442.4060202@bradakis.com> References: <8CE9E10747FEA1E-1BE8-6B298@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> <20120111020131.CA713187935@autox.team.net> <4F0CF442.4060202@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <4F0D0927.3060100@justbrits.com> << On 1/10/2012 8:30 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > One can go tohttp://www.team.net/forums ( link also below ) and > register. Once you get your username and password you can post pictures. >> Say Mark, would that process be "automatic" ? ? ? Similar to subbing to The Healeys List ? And would you remind us "how to get there" and "where The Healeys List Archives" are ?!? TIA ! ! Ed From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Tue Jan 10 21:03:01 2012 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:03:01 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?tachs?= Message-ID: <20120111040301.29129.qmail@server278.com> speaking of tachometers, does anyone know where to score one of those little metal pieces that pick up the pulse on the back of the bj8 tach. do not need the plastic piece, just the metal. my homemade piece failed miserably. hjim From mark at bradakis.com Tue Jan 10 21:42:01 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:42:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Early 100-Six Racing In-Reply-To: <4F0D0927.3060100@justbrits.com> References: <8CE9E10747FEA1E-1BE8-6B298@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> <20120111020131.CA713187935@autox.team.net> <4F0CF442.4060202@bradakis.com> <4F0D0927.3060100@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4F0D1319.7050808@bradakis.com> " Just Brits " Shop wrote: > << On 1/10/2012 8:30 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> One can go to http://www.team.net/forums ( link also below ) and >> register. Once you > get your username and password you can post pictures. >> > > > Say Mark, would that process be "automatic" ? ? ? Similar to subbing > to The Healeys List ? Actually all the registrations to the forums require approval by me. You have no idea how many bogus, spam spewing requests come in every day. mjb. From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 23:11:49 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:11:49 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] tachs In-Reply-To: <20120111040301.29129.qmail@server278.com> References: <20120111040301.29129.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: David Nock will have them. You can also get them off the back of MGB tachs of the same era. On 1/11/12, healeymanjim at hansencc.net wrote: > speaking of tachometers, does anyone know where to score one of those little > metal pieces that pick up the pulse on the back of the bj8 tach. do not > need the plastic piece, just the metal. my homemade piece failed miserably. > hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -- Sent from my mobile device From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jan 11 05:59:09 2012 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:59:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Electroless nickel plating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004001ccd060$cfb427f0$6f1c77d0$@charter.net> Dick, I too have used this extensively. You must sandblast to utter cleanliness. Remove ALL rust. Coat with clear protectant after coating lest you get surface rust. Nuts and bolts that were not coated with clear showed surface rust. For polished parts it takes a long time but the results are pretty darn good. Brought out the mad scientist in me. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Curt/Nancy Arndt Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:20 PM To: richard mayor Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Electroless nickel plating Dick, I've been using Caswell's Copy Cad for many years and it's an excellent home plating kit... HOWEVER, it takes some skill, practice, and patience to get the results you want. Follow the directions as written, take your time, and be meticulously clean and you should get professional results. Cheers, Curt On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 12:36 PM, richard mayor wrote: > Has anyone used the Caswell electroless nickel plating kit from > Caswell? I have a number of small parts that I would like to have > that look of nickel rather than the look of zinc. > > > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From csooch1 at aol.com Wed Jan 11 08:29:22 2012 From: csooch1 at aol.com (chris.masucci@alumni.rutgers.edu) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:29:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Possible explanation on the Petronix positive ground and Smith loop style Tach In-Reply-To: <8CE9E8437F9CD60-498-8C06B@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> References: <1326232903.98372.YahooMailRC@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CE9E8437F9CD60-498-8C06B@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CE9E8CED8C3AFE-498-8C74D@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> Hi Bob, I ran into this when I first installed my Pertronix on my positive ground BJ8. I found that the Pertronix doesn't draw as much current as points and therefore does not create enough of a magnetic field with only one loop on the back of the tach. I ended up splicing in some thin wire so I could make 3 or 4 loops where there would normally only be one and that made the tach very responsive and accurate. You might try this. Cheers, Chris BJ8...in the final bodywork stages -----Original Message----- From: Bob Brown blkbt7 at yahoo.com To: Healey List Cc: Maurice Martin Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2012 4:20 pm Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Possible explanation on the Petronix positive ground and Smith loop style Tach A club member recently installed a Petronix ignition in his positive ground J8, ar fine s fine but the tachometer does not operate. This is of course ecause t is not connected. everal attempts to wire to operate the tach hve proven unsuccessful. He has alked with Petronix tech support but they ould not provide a definitive nswer. I'm sure there are many positive round BJ8's in the owrld that have roperly functioning tachometers. What s the wiring?? ur club member sent me the following, which he now elieves to be his best and ossibly only option. I'm sure Niosonger knows ore about this than I do but I ave never heard that a paoistive ground BJ8 ach will not work unless rebuilt s they state. A fair amount of cash has ecently gone into this car and I hate o see him spend more needlessly. Any omments? Bob I spoke to the owner at Nisonger Instruments. They rebuild he Smith agues...Anyway...I mentioned I was going to sen him my tach and peedo for ebuilding this winter...he casually asked about if I had onverted to lectronic distributor...and the truth came out. The Petronix e says is not ompatible with the loop tach style Smith gauge. So they can ebuild the ach...to look authentic, but add electronics. See link below. e said they ebuild a few hundred a year like this. Not sure why it is not ommon nowledge. o as you saw with my car...if you wire the coil and istributor as Petronix nstructs...it works fine...you do have to remove the ires from the harness hat used to terminate at the coil. But apparently ou no amount of tweaking ill get the old tach to work." ttp://www.nisonger.com/electric-tachometer-conversions.htm uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/chris.masucci at alumni.rutgers.ed u From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 08:53:24 2012 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:53:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Princess / Jensen 541 assistance Message-ID: Hey Folks, I know this isn't specifically AH, but this is the best place I know of for the following: "I am in touch with a friend in Florida who is in need of help with a 541. He is a Dutchman who now lives in Florida and restores British cars as a hobby. He has this 541 which is his, and when he bought it, it had been stored for years...only has about 10k miles on it. Said the pistons are bad (stored for years dry) and inasmuch as he is not on the Internet, I told him I would search for him. He needs a set of pistons and rings for that Austin engine, or a complete or partial engine....in the Eastern part of the US, if possible. Anyone who can help, kindly contact me off this link and I will put you in touch with this gentleman." The Jensen 541 used the 4 liter Austin Princess engine with a triple SU setup. Jody -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/They-Might-Be-Racing/182813478411202 <--Follow us on Facebook! 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 11 08:55:45 2012 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:55:45 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] tachs In-Reply-To: <20120111040301.29129.qmail@server278.com> References: <20120111040301.29129.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Jim, we all the pieces for the electric tach pick up available. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:03 PM, wrote: > speaking of tachometers, does anyone know where to score one of > those little metal pieces that pick up the pulse on the back of the > bj8 tach. do not need the plastic piece, just the metal. my > homemade piece failed miserably. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jan 11 11:20:32 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Possible explanation on the Petronix positive ground and Smith loop style Tach In-Reply-To: <8CE9E8CED8C3AFE-498-8C74D@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1651417255.638137.1326306032708.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Been many years since I put in a Pertronix, but I seem to recall adding an 'extra' loop on the inductive pickup. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- Hi Bob, I ran into this when I first installed my Pertronix on my positive ground BJ8. I found that the Pertronix doesn't draw as much current as points and therefore does not create enough of a magnetic field with only one loop on the back of the tach. I ended up splicing in some thin wire so I could make 3 or 4 loops where there would normally only be one and that made the tach very responsive and accurate. You might try this. Cheers, Chris BJ8...in the final bodywork stages From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jan 10 16:48:24 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 23:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Possible explanation on the Petronix positive ground and Smith loop style Tach In-Reply-To: <1326232903.98372.YahooMailRC@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <948865325.604068.1326239304961.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Unless Pertronix has changed the Ignitor design in the 8-10 years since I installed mine, it will work with a Smiths electronic tach on a pos-ground car. Mine works fine and, in fact, since I calibrated it is absolutely spot on accurate and stable. Hard to believe, I know, but it is as verified by my Sears dwell-tach and by inference with the GPS/speedometer/gearing/etc. All I recall doing was reversing the loop formed by the white wire on the back of the tach, but I might have rerouted the white wire. Sorry, I don't have a schematic, but the thing to think about is the Ignitor switches battery current to the coil--you have to provide an alternative ground to the coil (I used the notorious battery cutoff switch and white/black coil ground wire moved to a different terminal on the switch)--whereas points make and break a circuit to ground from the coil. The tach is probably (has to be) wired in series with the coil and the points, so you may (probably) have to change the routing of the white wire. I did not remove any wires from my harness; just rerouted them so that I can easily go back to points in an emergency. The loop on the back of the tach is an inductive pickup. If switched current flows through the wire--with the proper polarity--the tach will work. The needle on the tach moves in proportion to the frequency of the current pulses. Not that I doubt a reputable outfit like Nisonger, but the Ignitor I ('one') is hardly more than an electronic points set (with some inductive-capacitive circuitry to even out 'dwell'). Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- A club member recently installed a Petronix ignition in his positive ground BJ8, Car fine s fine but the tachometer does not operate. This is of course because it is not connected. Several attempts to wire to operate the tach ahve proven unsuccessful. He has talked with Petronix tech support but they could not provide a definitive answer. I'm sure there are many positive ground BJ8's in the owrld that have properly functioning tachometers. What is the wiring?? Our club member sent me the following, which he now believes to be his best and possibly only option. I'm sure Niosonger knows more about this than I do but I have never heard that a paoistive ground BJ8 tach will not work unless rebuilt as they state. A fair amount of cash has recently gone into this car and I hate to see him spend more needlessly. Any comments? Bob "I spoke to the owner at Nisonger Instruments. They rebuild the Smith gagues...Anyway...I mentioned I was going to sen him my tach and speedo for rebuilding this winter...he casually asked about if I had converted to electronic distributor...and the truth came out. The Petronix he says is not compatible with the loop tach style Smith gauge. So they can rebuild the tach...to look authentic, but add electronics. See link below. He said they rebuild a few hundred a year like this. Not sure why it is not common knowledge. So as you saw with my car...if you wire the coil and distributor as Petronix instructs...it works fine...you do have to remove the wires from the harness that used to terminate at the coil. But apparently you no amount of tweaking will get the old tach to work." http://www.nisonger.com/electric-tachometer-conversions.htm From haywoodone at hotmail.com Fri Jan 13 07:38:44 2012 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:38:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] test Message-ID: test From flyhihealey at hotmail.com Thu Jan 12 11:41:23 2012 From: flyhihealey at hotmail.com (Warren Dietz) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:41:23 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] TEST Message-ID: Test................? From Healey100M at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 22:07:08 2012 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:07:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] TEST In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Must be back up. Randy On Jan 12, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Warren Dietz wrote: > Test................? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at gmail.com From molony at dodo.com.au Fri Jan 13 22:07:37 2012 From: molony at dodo.com.au (Graeme Molony) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:07:37 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] test References: Message-ID: George, Are you having problems too? No posts received for at least last 30 hrs.until your message was just about to contact Mark. Then a message from Bob Spidell received which was posted last Wednesday am. Anyone know what's going on?. Regards from down under Graeme J Molony MEmail: molony at dodo.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Haywood" To: Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:38 AM Subject: [Healeys] test > test > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/molony at dodo.com.au > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From autofarm at cyg.net Fri Jan 13 09:52:17 2012 From: autofarm at cyg.net (Bob Yule) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:52:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] test Message-ID: test Cheers.......Bob Check out our web site www.autofarm.net From mark at bradakis.com Fri Jan 13 19:16:28 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:16:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] That was festive! Message-ID: <4F10E57C.4090103@bradakis.com> Century Link is now the name of the company that used to be called Qwest. They do telecommunications, internet such as Team.Net's DSL connection, and now various entertainment products. They spent a lot of money advertising the change, and how they are so committed to customer service, blah blah blah. I, personally, didn't think that much would change. Be that as it may, the little green light on my trusty Cisco 678 DSL modem is once again brightly lit, bits are flowing once again. I do apologize for the delays, inconvenience and frustration those of you addicted to your Team.Net fix may have suffered. mjb. From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Wed Jan 11 23:37:17 2012 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:37:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Possible explanation on the Petronix positive ground and Smith loop style Tach In-Reply-To: <1651417255.638137.1326306032708.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1651417255.638137.1326306032708.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I just crawled under my dash to take a look at the back of my tach. I call it one (1) loop. Wire goes under clip, loops around and goes under again. One loop, two wires under the clip. Tach works fine although I did have to do the internal capacitor swap much later when the readings started going off (see http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Werner/BJ8%20Tachometer%20Reads%20High.pdf on John Sim's site). '67, BJ8, positive ground, Pertronix Ignitor LU162AP12. Many years of excellent service without any modification to the tach or wiring. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Spidell" To: "chris.masucci at alumni.rutgers.edu" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Possible explanation on the Petronix positive ground and Smith loop style Tach > Been many years since I put in a Pertronix, but I seem to recall adding an > 'extra' loop on the inductive pickup. > > Bob > > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Jan 13 09:23:28 2012 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:23:28 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] hardtops and wheels for sale Message-ID: <001401ccd20f$afdc1400$0f943c00$@com> I have 2 hardtops for sale. The first is a BMC factory Bugeye hardtop, in excellent condition. White. Nice paint, glass, seals, etc. The second is a BMC factory MKII Sprite/MK I hardtop in good condition. These seem to be quite hard to find. Lastly, I have a set of 4 original 13" Sprite/Midget Minilite magnesium wheels, that were bead blasted & painted, in excellent condition. Items are located in Wisconsin. Please contact me off list to discuss further. WST From Healey100M at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 22:54:47 2012 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:54:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Beware - Fake BMIHT Certificates Message-ID: <4E6E137D-2146-4EE7-AB42-1648811D68B2@gmail.com> Tried to post this earlier today and it may come through yet, but here it is again. Not surprising I guess but disappointing. www.classicandsportscar.com/news/general-classic-car-news/dont-be-duped-by-fa ke-heritage-certificates Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M White/Black '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (for sale) '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Jan 11 17:20:19 2012 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:20:19 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Princess / Jensen 541 assistance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E1FFD0529A9415492F749CD0AD9834A@GregPC> I believe the 541 Austin Princess engine is a 6 cylinder version of the 100 engine, or the 100 engine is a 4 cylinder version of...don't know which one came first, but I believe the bore and stroke are the same, so 100 parts (readily available from the usual suspects) may work on the Austin motor. Greg Lemon From healey100m at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 10:29:33 2012 From: healey100m at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:29:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates References: <14EE1664-F7D2-4FF9-B6CC-DA417163D291@me.com> Message-ID: >> Not surprising I guess but disappointing. >> >> www.classicandsportscar.com/news/general-classic-car-news/dont-be-duped-by-fa ke-heritage-certificates >> >> Randy >> >> Randy Hicks >> www.austinhealey100m.com >> '56 100 M White/Black >> '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW >> '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (for sale) >> '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop >> '65 BJ8 >> '53 MGTD >> Healey100M at gmail.com From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 18:40:38 2012 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:40:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Princess / Jensen 541 assistance In-Reply-To: <0E1FFD0529A9415492F749CD0AD9834A@GregPC> References: <0E1FFD0529A9415492F749CD0AD9834A@GregPC> Message-ID: Hey Folks, Thanks for the information and validation. Part of the original question had to do with proximity to Florida. Anyone have any recommendations on places to talk to down that way? Jody On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > I believe the 541 Austin Princess engine is a 6 cylinder version of the 100 > engine, or the 100 engine is a 4 cylinder version of...don't know which one > came first, but I believe the bore and stroke are the same, so 100 parts > (readily available from the usual suspects) may work on the Austin motor. > > Greg Lemon > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/They-Might-Be-Racing/182813478411202 <--Follow us on Facebook! 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 15:06:14 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 06:06:14 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Princess / Jensen 541 assistance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jody - The pistons are the same as for the 100, he just needs to order two sets of 100 pistons and rings from someone. Alan On 1/11/12, Jody Kerr wrote: > Hey Folks, > > I know this isn't specifically AH, but this is the best place I know > of for the following: > > "I am in touch with a friend in Florida who is in need of help with a > 541. He is a Dutchman who now lives in Florida and restores British > cars as a hobby. He has this 541 which is his, and when he bought it, > it had been stored for years...only has about 10k miles on it. Said > the pistons are bad (stored for years dry) and inasmuch as he is not > on the Internet, I told him I would search for him. > > > > He needs a set of pistons and rings for that Austin engine, or a > complete or partial engine....in the Eastern part of the US, if > possible. > > > > Anyone who can help, kindly contact me off this link and I will put > you in touch with this gentleman." > > The Jensen 541 used the 4 liter Austin Princess engine with a triple SU > setup. > > Jody > > -- > http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > https://www.facebook.com/pages/They-Might-Be-Racing/182813478411202 > <--Follow us on Facebook! > > 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) > 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 > > "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn > from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent > disinclination to do so." > --Douglas Adams > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -- Sent from my mobile device From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jan 14 06:38:11 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 05:38:11 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates In-Reply-To: References: <14EE1664-F7D2-4FF9-B6CC-DA417163D291@me.com> Message-ID: <4F118543.8020601@comcast.net> Never seen one--I've got 2 BMIHT certs, one for my BJ8 and one for our 100M--with a photo. Also, the 'built for James Bond' stuff doesn't smell right. Are there different types of certs? Are they sending them with photos now? If not, that's not what I'd even call a fake cert, that is a complete fabrication; someone's fantasy of what a cert would look like (although the logo appears correct; think the ones on my certs are gold embossed, though). Bib On 1/13/2012 9:29 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: >>> Not surprising I guess but disappointing. >>> >>> > www.classicandsportscar.com/news/general-classic-car-news/dont-be-duped-by-fa > ke-heritage-certificates >>> Randy >>> >>> Randy Hicks >>> www.austinhealey100m.com >>> '56 100 M White/Black >>> '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW >>> '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (for sale) >>> '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop >>> '65 BJ8 >>> '53 MGTD >>> Healey100M at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From rccpl1 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 06:54:15 2012 From: rccpl1 at yahoo.com (john doe) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 05:54:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] marque Message-ID: <1326549255.58593.YahooMailClassic@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> was the dec issue sent out or is it a 2 month issue if so can someone send me a pic of the cover maybe i misplaced it thanks From austin.healey at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 07:04:39 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 01:04:39 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates In-Reply-To: <4F118543.8020601@comcast.net> References: <14EE1664-F7D2-4FF9-B6CC-DA417163D291@me.com> <4F118543.8020601@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9E4163D4-55A1-4335-BA28-4293D3F234F4@gmail.com> Hey Bob, I think that certificate is actually genuine... http://www.astonmartins.com/db4_5_6_s/db5_007_goldfinger_thunderball.htm Chris Sent from my iPhone On 15/01/2012, at 12:38 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Never seen one--I've got 2 BMIHT certs, one for my BJ8 and one for > our 100M--with a photo. Also, the 'built for James Bond' stuff > doesn't smell right. > > Are there different types of certs? Are they sending them with > photos now? If not, that's not what I'd even call a fake cert, > that is a complete fabrication; someone's fantasy of what a cert > would look like (although the logo appears correct; think the ones > on my certs are gold embossed, though). > > > Bib > > > > On 1/13/2012 9:29 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: >>>> Not surprising I guess but disappointing. >>>> >>>> >> www.classicandsportscar.com/news/general-classic-car-news/dont-be-duped-by-fa >> ke-heritage-certificates >>>> Randy >>>> >>>> Randy Hicks >>>> www.austinhealey100m.com >>>> '56 100 M White/Black >>>> '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW >>>> '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (for sale) >>>> '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop >>>> '65 BJ8 >>>> '53 MGTD >>>> Healey100M at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Jan 14 07:21:52 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:21:52 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] marque In-Reply-To: <1326549255.58593.YahooMailClassic@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326549255.58593.YahooMailClassic@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002c01ccd2c7$dc782d10$95688730$@net> There is not a December issue, instead you get the calendar. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john doe Sent: 2012-01-14 8:54 To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] marque was the dec issue sent out or is it a 2 month issue if so can someone send me a pic of the cover maybe i misplaced it thanks $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Jan 14 07:53:55 2012 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:53:55 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates In-Reply-To: <4F118543.8020601@comcast.net> References: <14EE1664-F7D2-4FF9-B6CC-DA417163D291@me.com> <4F118543.8020601@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007701ccd2cc$569f8d00$03dea700$@rr.com> It's a bit misleading. The article states that the fake certificates that have come to light are for Mini Cooper S and Healey 100Ms. They don't show a sample of such a bad certificate, but one for an Aston Martin that appears to be legitimate. I'm only familiar with certificates for BJ8s (I have 737 of them in the registry collection), but I've never seen one where the factory recorded information about a car that occurred after it left the factory, such as "used in the James Bond film". I've also never seen one for a BJ8 where the car was built and shipped out of the factory on the same day. Healeys normally had a very leisurely build process. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:38 AM To: Randy Hicks Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates Never seen one--I've got 2 BMIHT certs, one for my BJ8 and one for our 100M--with a photo. Also, the 'built for James Bond' stuff doesn't smell right. Are there different types of certs? Are they sending them with photos now? If not, that's not what I'd even call a fake cert, that is a complete fabrication; someone's fantasy of what a cert would look like (although the logo appears correct; think the ones on my certs are gold embossed, though). Bib From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 09:02:14 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 08:02:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates In-Reply-To: <4F118543.8020601@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1326556934.12090.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> If you pop for the "Premier" certificate, you can add a picture of your car: "Now you can include a picture of your car on your Heritage Certificate, the ultimate way to present your vehicle. Simply upload your favourite photograph from your PC, using the form above. Your 'Premier' Certificate will include your picture in addition to the original details from the factory build record, as included on the standard Heritage Certificate. The ideal way to display your vehicle at a car show, or for framing to take pride of place on the wall." http://www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk/store/index.php?dispatch=products.view &product_id=29783 Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 1/14/12, Bob Spidell wrote: From: Bob Spidell Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates To: "Randy Hicks" Cc: "Healey List" Date: Saturday, January 14, 2012, 8:38 AM Are there different types of certs? Are they sending them with photos now? From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jan 14 10:10:40 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:10:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates In-Reply-To: <1326556934.12090.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1326556934.12090.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F11B710.3080006@comcast.net> That makes a little sense; can't imagine the factory posing a car for photos before they ship it (even if it was James Bond's personal ride). The certs I have are actually fancier, on thick graphics paper with an embossed seal logo (but no picture). Bob On 1/14/2012 8:02 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > If you pop for the "Premier" certificate, you can add a picture of your car: > > "Now you can include a picture of your car on your Heritage Certificate, the ultimate way to present your vehicle. > > Simply upload your favourite photograph from your PC, using the form above. Your 'Premier' Certificate will include > your picture in addition to the original details from the factory build record, as included on the standard Heritage > Certificate. > > The ideal way to display your vehicle at a car show, or for framing to take pride of place on the wall." > > > http://www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk/store/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29783 > > > > Rick > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On *Sat, 1/14/12, Bob Spidell //* wrote: > > > From: Bob Spidell > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates > To: "Randy Hicks" > Cc: "Healey List" > Date: Saturday, January 14, 2012, 8:38 AM > > > > Are there different types of certs? Are they sending them with photos now? > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Jan 14 10:29:54 2012 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:29:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] marque In-Reply-To: <1326549255.58593.YahooMailClassic@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20120114122954.P4UT4.127309.root@pamxwww07-z01> Real name?? ---- john doe wrote: ============= was the dec issue sent out or is it a 2 month issue if so can someone send me a pic of the cover maybe i misplaced it thanks Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Jan 14 10:32:43 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:32:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates In-Reply-To: <4F11B710.3080006@comcast.net> References: <1326556934.12090.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4F11B710.3080006@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004501ccd2e2$85c035b0$9140a110$@net> Interesting about the BMIHT certificates possibly being faked. We were recently able to help establish one of the 100M cars seeming not quite right during an inquiry by a prospective buyer. We carefully checked the numbers against what we have in the Hundred Registry. Body numbers and date sequences being quite out of whack was a first tip off to have the prospective buyer check deeper with BMIHT who confirmed the discrepancies. Meanwhile I personally contacted the legitimate owner I currently have the chassis number listed for and the discrepancy immediately came to light. Yes, we Registrars can be useful from time to time. Rich Chrysler Hundred Registrar From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 14 10:55:49 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:55:49 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Generator oiling Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120114095525.0210d050@pop.att.yahoo.com> The drive end plate on my generator has several holes drilled into it, two near the bearing holder and two on the outside circumference. They appear to be used for injecting oil into the felt in front of the bearing. I did not see any mention of them in the workshop manual. Anyone else notice these holes? John Spaur '62 BT7 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Jan 14 11:08:30 2012 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:08:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates In-Reply-To: <004501ccd2e2$85c035b0$9140a110$@net> References: <1326556934.12090.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4F11B710.3080006@comcast.net> <004501ccd2e2$85c035b0$9140a110$@net> Message-ID: <007b01ccd2e7$85c41400$914c3c00$@rr.com> People frequently ask what value a registry has, or why they should bother to contribute the details of their car to a registry. Well, the registrars have a record of the chassis, body, engine, gearbox, rear axle, etc. numbers for a large number of cars, which makes it very easy to identify any numbers on a car that are outside the pattern expected for its VIN. Whether you as an owner ever get any direct benefit from a registry or not, at least you can help to increase the value of the data to other owners and potential owners by listing your car. Several times new owners have sent their data to me and found out their BJ8 is not what they thought it was -- even when restored by well-known and respected restorers. It would probably have been to their benefit to check with the registry before buying it. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Chrysler Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:33 PM To: 'Bob Spidell'; 'HealeyRick' Cc: 'Healey List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates Interesting about the BMIHT certificates possibly being faked. We were recently able to help establish one of the 100M cars seeming not quite right during an inquiry by a prospective buyer. We carefully checked the numbers against what we have in the Hundred Registry. Body numbers and date sequences being quite out of whack was a first tip off to have the prospective buyer check deeper with BMIHT who confirmed the discrepancies. Meanwhile I personally contacted the legitimate owner I currently have the chassis number listed for and the discrepancy immediately came to light. Yes, we Registrars can be useful from time to time. Rich Chrysler Hundred Registrar From rwil at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 14 11:11:18 2012 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:11:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 seat height and the new foam Message-ID: I am restoring the interior of our BN1. I have the sets of foam seat bottoms and backs (squabs) that Moss offers for the BN1. My trimmer is asking me whether I want them to cut down the foam seat bottoms about 1.5 inches, as they are accustomed to do. The story appears to be that modern foams are stiffer, not to mention not having the square holes in the bottom, so that a person sitting on the seats with as-offered foam bottoms will sit too high and may have difficulty with clearance between steering wheel and legs. Well, I am 5'6" tall and at least in our former BJ7 I sat a bit too low for a good driving position, even after adding spacers to the seat bases. I had a smaller diameter steering wheel in the BJ7 so I can't figure out if I need a shorter seat cushion just so I can fit underneath the BN1's standard original steering wheel. If anyone has had experience that would help me decide whether to lower the seat bottoms and if so how much, I would very much appreciate hearing from them. -Roland From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jan 14 11:13:07 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:13:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Fake BMIHT Certificates In-Reply-To: <004501ccd2e2$85c035b0$9140a110$@net> References: <1326556934.12090.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4F11B710.3080006@comcast.net> <004501ccd2e2$85c035b0$9140a110$@net> Message-ID: <4F11C5B3.5020103@comcast.net> Rich, Thanks for a valuable service. Do you coordinate with Bill Meade of the 'M' Registry? Bob On 1/14/2012 9:32 AM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > Interesting about the BMIHT certificates possibly being faked. We were > recently able to help establish one of the 100M cars seeming not quite right > during an inquiry by a prospective buyer. We carefully checked the numbers > against what we have in the Hundred Registry. Body numbers and date > sequences being quite out of whack was a first tip off to have the > prospective buyer check deeper with BMIHT who confirmed the discrepancies. > Meanwhile I personally contacted the legitimate owner I currently have the > chassis number listed for and the discrepancy immediately came to light. > > Yes, we Registrars can be useful from time to time. > > Rich Chrysler > Hundred Registrar > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From glemon at neb.rr.com Sat Jan 14 11:29:36 2012 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:29:36 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 seat height and the new foam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9372D814356345A8A3368256A43F59A3@GregPC> Roland, I am 6'0" so a little different dimensions, but I had no problem with the steering wheel clearance and legs with some very restuffed seat bottoms, my brother who is a few pounds heavier did though. However, my head hit the roof with the top up, I had the foams cut down. Maybe you and your trimmer could work it out so you can sit on the foams with the cover on but not attached to see if it needs cutting down for best driving position, since the bottom just sits in the seat frame shouldn't be too hard to do. Greg Lemon From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jan 14 11:43:23 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:43:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 seat height and the new foam In-Reply-To: <9372D814356345A8A3368256A43F59A3@GregPC> References: <9372D814356345A8A3368256A43F59A3@GregPC> Message-ID: <4F11CCCB.5040909@comcast.net> My (limited/BJ8) experience with the seat foams is that they collapse significantly, even over just a few thousand miles. Bob On 1/14/2012 10:29 AM, Greg Lemon wrote: > Roland, I am 6'0" so a little different dimensions, but I had no problem with the steering wheel clearance and legs > with some very restuffed seat bottoms, my brother who is a few pounds heavier did though. However, my head hit the > roof with the top up, I had the foams cut down. > > Maybe you and your trimmer could work it out so you can sit on the foams with the cover on but not attached to see if > it needs cutting down for best driving position, since the bottom just sits in the seat frame shouldn't be too hard to > do. > > Greg Lemon > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sat Jan 14 11:49:27 2012 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:49:27 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 seat height and the new foam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Roland: I responded to a similar question a while back. My Healey is a BJ8 not a BN1 but I think the situation is the same. I installed new foam in my original seats as it seemed that I was almost sitting on the floor boards. I had made no modifications to the foam such as cutting the holes as per original. Upon sitting on the seat the first time, my eye level was at the top windshield frame. Since I drive my car as often as possible, I decided to let it be an see what happened. Through use, the seat has gradually compressed so that now it is at a comfortable level with my eyes well below the top of the windshield. Someone responded that the car they were working on did not get driven very often. If that is your case, the modification may be warranted. However, if you drive it a lot, I believe that use will compact the foam just as it did the original and you will be happy for a longer period of time before it becomes necessary to change the foam again. Just my experience as a 42 year owner with 188,000 miles on the odo, 173,000 put on by me. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Wilhelmy" To: "'Austin Healey list'" Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:11 AM Subject: [Healeys] BN1 seat height and the new foam >I am restoring the interior of our BN1. I have the sets of foam seat > bottoms and backs (squabs) that Moss offers for the BN1. My trimmer > is asking me whether I want them to cut down the foam seat bottoms > about 1.5 inches, as they are accustomed to do. > > The story appears to be that modern foams are stiffer, not to mention > not having the square holes in the bottom, so that a person sitting on > the seats with as-offered foam bottoms will sit too high and may have > difficulty with clearance between steering wheel and legs. Well, I am > 5'6" tall and at least in our former BJ7 I sat a bit too low for a > good driving position, even after adding spacers to the seat bases. I > had a smaller diameter steering wheel in the BJ7 so I can't figure out > if I need a shorter seat cushion just so I can fit underneath the > BN1's standard original steering wheel. > > If anyone has had experience that would help me decide whether to > lower the seat bottoms and if so how much, I would very much > appreciate hearing from them. > > -Roland > _______________________________________________ From HealeyHundred at comcast.net Sat Jan 14 12:14:42 2012 From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net (Richard Gordon) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:14:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 seat height and the new foam Message-ID: <5C4D3367-5D56-4E41-B479-EBBB9909A0F0@comcast.net> We found that the seat foams from the current suppliers are solid and too firm. The original seats had cross hatch foam construction in two layers which overlapped. the hollow squares were about 3.5 inches across. To make the new seats not only more comfortable, but sit like the original seats we bored or cut round holes in the seat bottoms using a hole cutting bit. The seats are very comfortable and even at 6' 0" my head just barely hits the hood when it is erected. Just one idea Richard Gordon Rocky Mountain Austin-Healey Club 1830 South Newport Street Denver, Colorado 80224 Home 303-756-7427 Cell 303-913-1171 HealeyHundred at comcast.net From peter.svilans at rogers.com Sat Jan 14 13:47:11 2012 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:47:11 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 seat height and the new foam Message-ID: <05381F9E7582432E8655CA533BBA1BDB@9535DEE118EC44B> Drilling holes in the new seat foams is the way to go. But it is possible to "restore" the actual original foam cushions to their original soft feel and resilience with a bit of patience, if they're in not-too-bad shape. The original Dunlopillo latex foam cushions can be sliced horizontally like a hamburger bun with an electric carving knife, leaving one side intact as a hinge for location. This exposes the honeycomb cavities on both sides of the cut. You'll see that most likely the cushion's collapse is due not to the latex compressing, but to the breakdown of the honeycomb "pillars" between the cavities, usually only a few on the drivers' side. These can be individually reglued and restored to their original height and shape with a professional flexible foam cement. This should work on its own, but bad cases of crumbling 'pillars' can be reinforced with stiff sheet foam slices glued on. The two halves of the hamburger can then be glued back together, if you prefer with a thin 1/8" sheet of flexible material between for extra reinforcement. Sagging side bolsters can be perked up with the insertion of foam wedges into slits in the sides, then trimmed off. The passenger cushion can usually still be used as a height standard. BTW, the long-lived Dunlopillo cushions were redesigned late in the BJ8 run, pointing to a flawed original design. The large 3" rectangular cavities were replaced by a honeycomb of smaller, round, about 1" holes, making for a stronger foam structure. Fairly good original BJ8 cushions can still be found, as the Ambla vinyl and completely solid steel pans minimised contact with the air which breaks down the natural latex rubber. Sheet latex rubber, called "Pincore", can still be had. But it is pricey, and newer 'green' PVC sheet foams now approach its soft feel and resilience. Best Peter From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 14 15:02:52 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 14:02:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] generator lucar connector Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120114135752.020441e8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Does anyone know where I can find the lucar connector that the field coils attach too? It is the part on the generator drive plate end. I need the plastic insulator piece that pokes out through the drive end plate. Mine is broken. I have a '62 BT7 generator; part number 22530B. Thank you, John Spaur San Jose, CA From austin.healey at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 18:08:16 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:08:16 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 seat height and the new foam In-Reply-To: <4F11CCCB.5040909@comcast.net> References: <9372D814356345A8A3368256A43F59A3@GregPC> <4F11CCCB.5040909@comcast.net> Message-ID: <53008E30-97AA-4034-A379-7559F26F2395@gmail.com> We recovered the original leather seats in my BJ8 a few months back, using new front base cushions from AH Spares and covers from Ahead4Healeys. About 12 years ago, I had extra foam put in the cushions. The original cushion base foam had disintegrated, and there was constantly yellow fine crumbs on the black carpet. The new seats are just fantastic. Yes, I sat a lot higher, but they have now settled. We didn't drill them or modify them. The difference in "seat of the pants" ride is just amazing! The car feels so much more civilized. I took an ex owner, Wally Gates for a drive, not long after the seats were done. He asked if I'd softened up the suspension..... In fact, I'd just replaced the rear urethane suspension bushes with solid brass in the tramp rods and graphite impregnated nylon in the shocks, making it the stiffest the car has ever been... Very very happy. The old cushions made it ride like you were sitting on the floor, and you felt every bump through your rump.... And the other benefit is the drivers side door mirror actually works now... Best Chris Sent from my iPhone On 15/01/2012, at 5:43 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > My (limited/BJ8) experience with the seat foams is that they > collapse significantly, even over just a few thousand miles. > > Bob > > > On 1/14/2012 10:29 AM, Greg Lemon wrote: >> Roland, I am 6'0" so a little different dimensions, but I had no >> problem with the steering wheel clearance and legs with some very >> restuffed seat bottoms, my brother who is a few pounds heavier did >> though. However, my head hit the roof with the top up, I had the >> foams cut down. >> >> Maybe you and your trimmer could work it out so you can sit on the >> foams with the cover on but not attached to see if it needs cutting >> down for best driving position, since the bottom just sits in the >> seat frame shouldn't be too hard to do. >> >> Greg Lemon >> >> > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sat Jan 14 18:32:33 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:32:33 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] 100 in 'Tonight's the Night'. Message-ID: <8237BD198D6E4B93B22645CD688133C6@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Casually watching a 1954 film called 'Tonight's the Night' staring David Niven, Yvonne De Carlo (Sigh!), Barry Fitzgerald and George Cole. Great scene when Niven and De Carlo (Sigh!) hop into a red 100 and set off along the night road. The windscreen is lowered and of course there is not a hair out of place. I see that the film it is also known as 'Happy Ever After' and the English registration number of the 100 is ZG 4517. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From rwil at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 14 18:50:05 2012 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:50:05 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 seat height and the new foam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Many, many thanks for all the speedy and informative replies. It would appear that the seat foams that Moss supplies are 'taller' at the front , which aims the driver's legs higher possibly interfering with the steering wheel. The cut that my trimmer proposes is to remove a wedge, thick and the front and tapering to nothing at the rear, so that there is very little reduction in seat height. Many responses suggest that the seats will settle lower after some use. I won't soften up the seat bottoms by cutting holes because I want to sit just a bit higher. In grateful thanks, I will be sending off my annual contribution to the maintenance of this list. -Roland On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:11:18 -0800, I wrote: ::I am restoring the interior of our BN1. I have the sets of foam seat ::bottoms and backs (squabs) that Moss offers for the BN1. My trimmer ::is asking me whether I want them to cut down the foam seat bottoms ::about 1.5 inches, as they are accustomed to do. :: ::The story appears to be that modern foams are stiffer, not to mention ::not having the square holes in the bottom, so that a person sitting on ::the seats with as-offered foam bottoms will sit too high and may have ::difficulty with clearance between steering wheel and legs. Well, I am ::5'6" tall and at least in our former BJ7 I sat a bit too low for a ::good driving position, even after adding spacers to the seat bases. I ::had a smaller diameter steering wheel in the BJ7 so I can't figure out ::if I need a shorter seat cushion just so I can fit underneath the ::BN1's standard original steering wheel. [snip] From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 19:21:04 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:21:04 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 seat height and the new foam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Roland - I might suggest this isn't a very good idea by your trimmer. Having support under your legs in the front helps to make the seat more comfortable on longer trips. You will get used to the steering wheel issue. If your trips are all less than 15 minutes in the car, then go ahead. Alan On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Roland Wilhelmy wrote: > Many, many thanks for all the speedy and informative replies. It > would appear that the seat foams that Moss supplies are 'taller' at > the front , which aims the driver's legs higher possibly interfering > with the steering wheel. The cut that my trimmer proposes is to > remove a wedge, thick and the front and tapering to nothing at the > rear, so that there is very little reduction in seat height. > > Many responses suggest that the seats will settle lower after some > use. I won't soften up the seat bottoms by cutting holes because I > want to sit just a bit higher. > > In grateful thanks, I will be sending off my annual contribution to > the maintenance of this list. > > -Roland > > On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:11:18 -0800, I wrote: > > ::I am restoring the interior of our BN1. I have the sets of foam seat > ::bottoms and backs (squabs) that Moss offers for the BN1. My trimmer > ::is asking me whether I want them to cut down the foam seat bottoms > ::about 1.5 inches, as they are accustomed to do. > :: > ::The story appears to be that modern foams are stiffer, not to mention > ::not having the square holes in the bottom, so that a person sitting on > ::the seats with as-offered foam bottoms will sit too high and may have > ::difficulty with clearance between steering wheel and legs. Well, I am > ::5'6" tall and at least in our former BJ7 I sat a bit too low for a > ::good driving position, even after adding spacers to the seat bases. I > ::had a smaller diameter steering wheel in the BJ7 so I can't figure out > ::if I need a shorter seat cushion just so I can fit underneath the > ::BN1's standard original steering wheel. > [snip] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From rwil at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 15 00:18:02 2012 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 23:18:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 seat height and the new foam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alan- The lowering of the front of the seat bottom is to bring the foam into conformation with the shape of the original foam pieces, not to lower the front edge lower than original. Sorry, I did not make that clear. Evidently the currently available foam pieces are not the original shape in that regard. -Roland On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:21:04 +0800, you wrote: ::Roland - :: ::I might suggest this isn't a very good idea by your trimmer. Having ::support under your legs in the front helps to make the seat more ::comfortable on longer trips. You will get used to the steering wheel issue. :: ::If your trips are all less than 15 minutes in the car, then go ahead. :: ::Alan :: ::On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Roland Wilhelmy wrote: :: ::> Many, many thanks for all the speedy and informative replies. It ::> would appear that the seat foams that Moss supplies are 'taller' at ::> the front , which aims the driver's legs higher possibly interfering ::> with the steering wheel. The cut that my trimmer proposes is to ::> remove a wedge, thick and the front and tapering to nothing at the ::> rear, so that there is very little reduction in seat height. ::> ::> Many responses suggest that the seats will settle lower after some ::> use. I won't soften up the seat bottoms by cutting holes because I ::> want to sit just a bit higher. ::> ::> In grateful thanks, I will be sending off my annual contribution to ::> the maintenance of this list. ::> ::> -Roland From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Sun Jan 15 01:00:55 2012 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 08:00:55 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100 in 'Tonight's the Night'. In-Reply-To: <8237BD198D6E4B93B22645CD688133C6@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <8237BD198D6E4B93B22645CD688133C6@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: Pat A registration number prefixed with ZG is likely to be Irish; so perhaps this part of filming took place in Ireland. Regards > > > >Casually watching a 1954 film called 'Tonight's the Night' staring David >Niven, Yvonne De Carlo (Sigh!), Barry Fitzgerald and George Cole. > > > >Great scene when Niven and De Carlo (Sigh!) hop into a red 100 and set off >along the night road. The windscreen is lowered and of course there is not a >hair out of place. > > > >I see that the film it is also known as 'Happy Ever After' and the English >registration number of the 100 is ZG 4517. > > > >Hoo Roo > > > >Patrick Quinn > >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah at jharper.demon.co.uk > -- John Harper From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sun Jan 15 04:36:04 2012 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:36:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 in 'Tonight's the Night'. In-Reply-To: <8237BD198D6E4B93B22645CD688133C6@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <8237BD198D6E4B93B22645CD688133C6@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <4F12BA24.8000101@earthlink.net> Patrick, She caught your eye when you were watching the Munsters, eh? Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php From jstmorris at yahoo.com Sun Jan 15 07:28:54 2012 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:28:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <0D03E6B515F44C858945AEEE8A531767@ownerPC> Message-ID: <1326637734.19113.YahooMailClassic@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Ross;B That is one fine restoration you have done.B I tip my hat to you.B Once spring arrives, you will go through all the teething problems of sorting out your work and then, oh joy, the open road.B Have fun and keep smiling. B Oh yes, you are likely well aware of Derek Jobbs 100-Six website but just in case you are not, check outB http://www.healeysix.net/ B B Welcome to 2012. B --Scott Morris; Simcoe, OntarioB B B B B B - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --- On Sun, 1/1/12, rvmaylor at shaw.ca wrote: From: rvmaylor at shaw.ca Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy New Year To: healeys at autox.team.net Received: Sunday, January 1, 2012, 11:06 PM Hi all, To start off the year on a good note here is another Healey (1958 100-Six, BN6L755)B just back on the road after 21 years. Back in 1989 the brakes were a wee bit shawdy so I started taking pieces off the car and before I knew it a full blown restoration was underway. New sills, outriggers, floors, engine rebuild, rust removal, panel repairs. Crap, I was in over my head, financially and skill wise. School, other cars, overseas work, houses, a wife and kids all conspired over the years to slow the rebuild but it continued in fits and starts and finally it is complete....? It's only trip so far is up and down the back lane and it will hibernate until spring when it can be really called 'back on the road'. Everything is back to original including the brakes, which still are a wee bit shawdy. Please visit the photo site below if you think a rebuild of a stock 100 Six is of interest. http://www.flickr.com/photos/100-6/show/ Happy New Year Ross Maylor Calgary Canada From dos_gusanos at msn.com Sun Jan 15 14:32:17 2012 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry Morrison) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:32:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Side curtain frame color Message-ID: Is it gray like the top bows? Black? My originality guide doesn't say. I'm so confused! Cheers Henry Morrison From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 14:50:13 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:50:13 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Side curtain frame color In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Henry, The side curtain frames were grey, just like the top frame. Cheers, Curt On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Henry Morrison wrote: > Is it gray like the top bows? Black? My originality guide doesn't say. > I'm > so confused! > > Cheers Henry Morrison > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sun Jan 15 18:54:18 2012 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 12:54:18 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Grille Surrounds Message-ID: <98A391156CC443D2B866B82F6321E3A8@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Please excuse my ignorance as you would think after 40 years of ownership I would know. I am looking at photos of the grille surrounds of the 100/6 - 3000 Mk1 and the 3000 Mk2 Convertible. Are they the same or is the grille surround in the 100/6-Mk1 in two pieces and the Mk2 Convertible a single piece. Yes the grille itself is clear, but I am only interested in the surround. Many thanks Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From akronzips at aol.com Sun Jan 15 19:18:31 2012 From: akronzips at aol.com (akronzips at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:18:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Restoration 1961 BT7 Healey 300-Tri Carb In-Reply-To: <8CEA20AEFAF0492-834-A947A@webmail-d088.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEA20AEFAF0492-834-A947A@webmail-d088.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CEA20C45D2417A-834-A9636@webmail-d088.sysops.aol.com> Sent: Sun, Jan 15, 2012 9:08 pm Subject: 1961 BT7 Healey 300-Tri Carb //Howard's Hi Gary: I thought maybe you'd like to see some pictures of my healey in primer filler condition. Howard Bead blasted scroud and front primered fender (early ) full primer and glaze (Sebring holes) cut for oil cooler I louvred the hood and put vents in the fenders (Rally Replica) First coat of primer glaze and sealant applied Fender vent cut in Louvres welded in primer and filer going on 2nd coat of primer glaze and filler applied to louvres and swag line Door lines and fitment a real pain. The car is in fimal stage filler//primer and being blocked and sanded almost ready to paint Howard From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 19:18:52 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:18:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Grille Surrounds In-Reply-To: <98A391156CC443D2B866B82F6321E3A8@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <98A391156CC443D2B866B82F6321E3A8@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: 011'6.mkI are two piece. I believe the MKII,III are one piece On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > G'day > > > > Please excuse my ignorance as you would think after 40 years of ownership I > would know. > > > > I am looking at photos of the grille surrounds of the 100/6 - 3000 Mk1 and > the 3000 Mk2 Convertible. > > > > Are they the same or is the grille surround in the 100/6-Mk1 in two pieces > and the Mk2 Convertible a single piece. Yes the grille itself is clear, but > I am only interested in the surround. > > > > Many thanks > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Sydney, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 19:22:12 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:22:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oil Message-ID: Sorry to go over this again but..... I did not see this in the archive Napa has 15/50 synthetic on sale for $3.47 a qrt. I use 20/50 Castrol race now, but want to shift to synthetic due to lubricating qualities. I cannot find any syn oil above 15 weight. Thanks -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 19:33:42 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:33:42 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Grille Surrounds In-Reply-To: <98A391156CC443D2B866B82F6321E3A8@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <98A391156CC443D2B866B82F6321E3A8@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: Patrick - The Mk II and III grille surrounds are one piece, and fix to the shroud differently than the Mk 1 / 100/6 grille. You can see the difference on the moss motors website; http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=28958 Interestingly, many people don't know this but the shroud piece between the grille and bonnet lid on the Mk II/III is slightly narrower and and shaped a bit more rounded than the shroud on earlier sixes (I don't think this is detailed in the concours guidlines). Alan On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > G'day > > > > Please excuse my ignorance as you would think after 40 years of ownership I > would know. > > > > I am looking at photos of the grille surrounds of the 100/6 - 3000 Mk1 and > the 3000 Mk2 Convertible. > > > > Are they the same or is the grille surround in the 100/6-Mk1 in two pieces > and the Mk2 Convertible a single piece. Yes the grille itself is clear, but > I am only interested in the surround. > > > > Many thanks > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Sydney, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 21:03:04 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:03:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oil In-Reply-To: <000001ccd3f6$52050ce0$f60f26a0$@cosmos.net.au> References: <000001ccd3f6$52050ce0$f60f26a0$@cosmos.net.au> Message-ID: Wow, the threads on oil point to synthetic to deal with that exact issue Now I'm really confused Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jan 15, 2012 6:26 PM, "Larry Varley" wrote: > Hi Ira, synthetic is usually a no no on cars with flat tappet cams, due to > the lack of zinc. Castrol Edge sport non synthetic is a good oil for > Healeys > Cheers > Larry > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Monday, 16 January 2012 1:22 PM > To: Ahealey help > Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oil > > Sorry to go over this again but..... > I did not see this in the archive > Napa has 15/50 synthetic on sale for $3.47 a qrt. > I use 20/50 Castrol race now, but want to shift to synthetic due to > lubricating qualities. > I cannot find any syn oil above 15 weight. > Thanks > > -- > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) > (_________________________) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/varley at cosmos.net.au From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jan 15 21:47:07 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:47:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Grille Surrounds In-Reply-To: <98A391156CC443D2B866B82F6321E3A8@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <98A391156CC443D2B866B82F6321E3A8@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <001801ccd409$eaa7ee50$bff7caf0$@net> The 100/Six and early 3000 roadster grille surround consists of an upper brow that bolts to the upper half of the grille aperture and a lower strip of chromed metal that fits onto the lower half of the shroud oval. The 3000 MK2 and Mk 3 surround consists of a full oval shell that fits into the shroud aperture along with an upper brow (different than the earlier one) that fits in behind the full oval shell and against the upper flange of the shroud aperture. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick and Caroline Quinn Sent: 2012-01-15 8:54 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Grille Surrounds G'day Please excuse my ignorance as you would think after 40 years of ownership I would know. I am looking at photos of the grille surrounds of the 100/6 - 3000 Mk1 and the 3000 Mk2 Convertible. Are they the same or is the grille surround in the 100/6-Mk1 in two pieces and the Mk2 Convertible a single piece. Yes the grille itself is clear, but I am only interested in the surround. Many thanks Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 23:33:51 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:33:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oil In-Reply-To: References: <000001ccd3f6$52050ce0$f60f26a0$@cosmos.net.au> Message-ID: Thanks, Thats where I got the idea about synthetic. So they ate not all equal. I think the diesel rated dinosaur oil is the best bet, cost wise. Thanks for your time. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jan 15, 2012 8:03 PM, "I Erbs" wrote: > Wow, the threads on oil point to synthetic to deal with that exact issue > > Now I'm really confused > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections > because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > On Jan 15, 2012 6:26 PM, "Larry Varley" wrote: > >> Hi Ira, synthetic is usually a no no on cars with flat tappet cams, due to >> the lack of zinc. Castrol Edge sport non synthetic is a good oil for >> Healeys >> Cheers >> Larry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: >> healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of I Erbs >> Sent: Monday, 16 January 2012 1:22 PM >> To: Ahealey help >> Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oil >> >> Sorry to go over this again but..... >> I did not see this in the archive >> Napa has 15/50 synthetic on sale for $3.47 a qrt. >> I use 20/50 Castrol race now, but want to shift to synthetic due to >> lubricating qualities. >> I cannot find any syn oil above 15 weight. >> Thanks >> >> -- >> Ira Erbs >> Portland, OR >> _______ _______ >> (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) >> (_________________________) >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual >> donation >> $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/varley at cosmos.net.au From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Jan 15 23:44:35 2012 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:44:35 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F13C753.2030106@chello.nl> Ira, It is the 50 that counts for the viscosity. I would advise against synthetic oils though in our classic cars. The so dreaded lower zinc contents may be an issue although I never encountered of trouble on this side of the pond with that. but also you may encounter problems with seals and gaskets causing leakages. Good old 20W50 mineral oil changed every year has served us well for decades so better stick with it as long as it is available. Kees Oudesluijs NL Op 16-1-2012 3:22, I Erbs schreef: > Sorry to go over this again but..... > I did not see this in the archive > Napa has 15/50 synthetic on sale for $3.47 a qrt. > I use 20/50 Castrol race now, but want to shift to synthetic due to > lubricating qualities. > I cannot find any syn oil above 15 weight. > Thanks From austin.healey at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 02:02:43 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:02:43 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2086F2CF-6023-4882-AE9C-7187804EFAFF@gmail.com> Penrite HPR. 30, 40 or 50 depending on climate and useage. More Zinc for your flat tappets than almost anything else. And it holds pressure when hot. No financial interest, just a very happy penrite user in Healeys for 16 years or so. Synthetic in gearbox and diff? Absolutely. Redline. Again, no financial interest. Chris Sent from my iPhone On 16/01/2012, at 1:22 PM, I Erbs wrote: > Sorry to go over this again but..... > I did not see this in the archive > Napa has 15/50 synthetic on sale for $3.47 a qrt. > I use 20/50 Castrol race now, but want to shift to synthetic due to > lubricating qualities. > I cannot find any syn oil above 15 weight. > Thanks > > -- > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) > (_________________________) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com From gaagten at hetnet.nl Mon Jan 16 07:49:15 2012 From: gaagten at hetnet.nl (Gaagten) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:49:15 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] A-H interior Message-ID: Hello list, I am looking for information (or were to find it) concerning the color scheme of the 3000 series and the corresponding interior colors and the colors of the piping on the seats. Anybody there to help me? Thanks and regards, Ge Aagten The Netherlands BJ8 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Jan 16 08:11:16 2012 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:11:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] A-H interior In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001001ccd461$181e0ac0$485a2040$@rr.com> Hi, Ge - Attached are scans of pages 92 and 93 of Anders Clausager's book, Original Austin-Healey. They should provide the information you are looking for. Happy Healeying! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gaagten Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 9:49 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] A-H interior Hello list, I am looking for information (or were to find it) concerning the color scheme of the 3000 series and the corresponding interior colors and the colors of the piping on the seats. Anybody there to help me? Thanks and regards, Ge Aagten The Netherlands BJ8 http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sbyers at ec.rr.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Clausager - p. 92.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Clausager - p. 93.jpg] From mgcharlie at comcast.net Mon Jan 16 08:43:08 2012 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:43:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] A-H interior In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F14458C.3000209@comcast.net> Ge, There used to be a website that was interactive so you could see all of the original color combinations. Try http://www.austinhealey.com/ and go to the old, static site. The new site may be helpful also, but I never saw it until today, so have had little time to see what it is about. Charlie On 1/16/2012 9:49 AM, Gaagten wrote: > Hello list, > I am looking for information (or were to find it) concerning the color scheme > of the 3000 series and the corresponding interior colors and the colors of the > piping on the seats. > Anybody there to help me? > > Thanks and regards, > > Ge Aagten > The Netherlands > BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jan 16 09:43:35 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:43:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] A-H interior In-Reply-To: <4F14458C.3000209@comcast.net> References: <4F14458C.3000209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000601ccd46d$fda03300$f8e09900$@net> Ge, Be aware that no matter what the interior colour, the normal piping on the Ambla vinyl BJ8 seats was a silver braid inside clear vinyl. This clear vinyl always yellowed over time resulting in the silver piping taking on a gold hue. This is available in accurate patterns and pipings from a number of sources, just be aware to specify it. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charlie Baldwin Sent: 2012-01-16 10:43 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] A-H interior Ge, There used to be a website that was interactive so you could see all of the original color combinations. Try http://www.austinhealey.com/ and go to the old, static site. The new site may be helpful also, but I never saw it until today, so have had little time to see what it is about. Charlie On 1/16/2012 9:49 AM, Gaagten wrote: > Hello list, > I am looking for information (or were to find it) concerning the color > scheme of the 3000 series and the corresponding interior colors and > the colors of the piping on the seats. > Anybody there to help me? > > Thanks and regards, > > Ge Aagten > The Netherlands > BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From HealeyHundred at comcast.net Mon Jan 16 09:43:38 2012 From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net (Richard Gordon) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:43:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey stuff 4 sale Message-ID: Hi All, Sorry to bomb the list with blatant sales offers. But I will be selling a lot of Healey (and other) stuff one the winter. Thought that I should offer it to the list members prior to putting them on eBay. If you are interested in any of the following, please let me know off list. These will all go on eBay after the list has had a chance to express interest. First lot: Austin-Healey Owners Handbooks: 996E December 1955 for 100's 996H May 1957 for 100/6's 996H May 1957 for 100/6's AKD4094E 1967 for BJ8's AKD3915 Aug 1963 for Mk1, MK2--BN7 & BT7 and BJ7. This includes the supplement 3915/1 AKD4094B 1966 for BJ8's AKD4094F 1967 for BJ8's I can provide photos. These are all original books, not reprints and in very good to excellent condition. Booklet from Healey '92 International at Breckenridge, Colorado showing the weeks events and information. 37 pages. Advert for Couzon home goods including platers and cutlery using 100/6 for the background. Richard Gordon Rocky Mountain Austin-Healey Club HealeyHundred at comcast.net From maxandreb1 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 16 12:14:05 2012 From: maxandreb1 at yahoo.com (Maurice Maxwell) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:14:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] RE synthetic ois Message-ID: <1326741245.59629.YahooMailNeo@web161705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> List, I have had good luck with Brad Penn oil which is a synthetic blend loaded with zinc phosphate additives. The price is about the same as mineral oils. It may be obtained as a 10W30 weight or as 20W50 weight. I am using the 20W50 and I have no issues with oil pressure or oil breakdown. Varoom Max 1961 BT7 MkI From warthodson at aol.com Mon Jan 16 12:49:39 2012 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:49:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Grille Surrounds In-Reply-To: <8CEA27CF9C00D45-2340-11A713@webmail-d165.sysops.aol.com> References: <98A391156CC443D2B866B82F6321E3A8@PatrickQuinnPC> <8CEA27CF9C00D45-2340-11A713@webmail-d165.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CEA29F1DE70A33-262C-1110B8@webmail-m158.sysops.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: warthodson To: healey.nut Sent: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 9:45 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Grille Surrounds According to the Moss catalog, the single piece surround was fitted to the BN/BT7 beginning at serial number 13751 on & all BJ7&8's. The BN/BT7 from serial # 13751 would also have the MKII style badge which was also fitted to the BJ7. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Alan Seigrist To: Patrick and Caroline Quinn Cc: healeys Sent: Sun, Jan 15, 2012 8:35 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Grille Surrounds Patrick - The Mk II and III grille surrounds are one piece, and fix to the shroud ifferently than the Mk 1 / 100/6 grille. You can see the difference on the moss motors website; http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=28958 Interestingly, many people don't know this but the shroud piece between the rille and bonnet lid on the Mk II/III is slightly narrower and and shaped bit more rounded than the shroud on earlier sixes (I don't think this is etailed in the concours guidlines). Alan On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn < _cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > G'day Please excuse my ignorance as you would think after 40 years of ownership I would know. I am looking at photos of the grille surrounds of the 100/6 - 3000 Mk1 and the 3000 Mk2 Convertible. Are they the same or is the grille surround in the 100/6-Mk1 in two pieces and the Mk2 Convertible a single piece. Yes the grille itself is clear, but I am only interested in the surround. Many thanks Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com From steveg at abrazosdata.com Mon Jan 16 13:47:48 2012 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve Gerow) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 12:47:48 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] [Sort of OFF]: Toyota trans for sale - SoCal area Message-ID: <01f601ccd490$1bf17590$53d460b0$@com> Have pix of a Toyota 5-speed I'm selling. Check 'em out and if interested contact me off-list. http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/w55 Suitable for either Healey or Triumph 5-speed kits. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA, USA BN6 From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 15:47:49 2012 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:47:49 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] A-H interior In-Reply-To: <000601ccd46d$fda03300$f8e09900$@net> References: <4F14458C.3000209@comcast.net> <000601ccd46d$fda03300$f8e09900$@net> Message-ID: Perhaps someone should make it in a gold hue so that it will look "age appropriate" to the car. Best--Michael Oritt On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > Ge, > > Be aware that no matter what the interior colour, the normal piping on the > Ambla vinyl BJ8 seats was a silver braid inside clear vinyl. This clear > vinyl always yellowed over time resulting in the silver piping taking on a > gold hue. This is available in accurate patterns and pipings from a number > of sources, just be aware to specify it. > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Charlie Baldwin > Sent: 2012-01-16 10:43 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] A-H interior > > Ge, > There used to be a website that was interactive so you could see all of the > original color combinations. Try http://www.austinhealey.com/ and go to > the > old, static site. The new site may be helpful also, but I never saw it > until today, so have had little time to see what it is about. > Charlie > > On 1/16/2012 9:49 AM, Gaagten wrote: > > Hello list, > > I am looking for information (or were to find it) concerning the color > > scheme of the 3000 series and the corresponding interior colors and > > the colors of the piping on the seats. > > Anybody there to help me? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Ge Aagten > > The Netherlands > > BJ8 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual > > donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name > of > mgcharlie.vcf] _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Jan 16 17:18:44 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:18:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 49 Years of Healey Ownership Message-ID: <1326759524.52416.YahooMailClassic@web161218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Haven't seen this before. Some reminisces of an original owner: http://www.railroadmemoirsbycrowner.com/lifewithanaustinhealey.html Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jan 16 19:26:46 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:26:46 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 49 Years of Healey Ownership In-Reply-To: <1326759524.52416.YahooMailClassic@web161218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1326759524.52416.YahooMailClassic@web161218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F14DC66.206@comcast.net> Sold to KT in 2007 for "slightly more than doubled" cost new; I'd say he got taken to the cleaners. IMHO, of course. Bob On 1/16/2012 4:18 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Haven't seen this before. Some reminisces of an original owner: > http://www.railroadmemoirsbycrowner.com/lifewithanaustinhealey.html > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 16 19:29:25 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:29:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Engine cleaning Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120116182612.020166f0@pop.att.yahoo.com> I had my block cleaned at a machine shop and because I was not able to paint it right away there is some light rust on the outside. If I use soda to blast it away should I be concerned if some of the soda gets into the oil galleries? I can clean the galleries with solvent but I am curious to know if the soda might harm the bearings once everything is back together. Tank you, John Spaur San Jose, CA From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jan 16 19:49:09 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:49:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Engine cleaning In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120116182612.020166f0@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120116182612.020166f0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F14E1A5.6090606@comcast.net> 'Soda' is sodium bicarbonate; it's soluble in water which makes it a good blast media but I doubt it's very soluble in oil (or solvent). Try mixing some baking soda with solvent and/or oil and see what happens; my guess is it stays pretty gritty. I don't have experience with it, but I don't think I'd chance it unless I could be sure not to get any media inside the block. I'd probably use naval jelly or some other chemical rust remover. Bob On 1/16/2012 6:29 PM, john spaur wrote: > I had my block cleaned at a machine shop and because I was not able to paint it right away there is some light rust on > the outside. > > If I use soda to blast it away should I be concerned if some of the soda gets into the oil galleries? > > I can clean the galleries with solvent but I am curious to know if the soda might harm the bearings once everything is > back together. > > Tank you, > John Spaur > San Jose, CA > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Jan 16 19:55:23 2012 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 21:55:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Engine cleaning Message-ID: <8CEA2DA97715A51-1A58-B5FE7@webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com> John Just wipe down the block with metal prep. Prime and paint. No muss, no fuss. Aloha Perry -----Original Message----- From: john spaur To: healeys Sent: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 9:40 pm Subject: [Healeys] Engine cleaning I had my block cleaned at a machine shop and because I was not able o paint it right away there is some light rust on the outside. If I use soda to blast it away should I be concerned if some of the oda gets into the oil galleries? I can clean the galleries with solvent but I am curious to know if he soda might harm the bearings once everything is back together. Tank you, ohn Spaur an Jose, CA uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com From eyera3000 at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 20:09:05 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:09:05 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Engine cleaning In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120116182612.020166f0@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120116182612.020166f0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I would wire brush it and or spray with some rust conversion spray. Eastman or Por 15 then paint it. surface rust is not much to be concerned about. On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:29 PM, john spaur wrote: > I had my block cleaned at a machine shop and because I was not able to > paint it right away there is some light rust on the outside. > > If I use soda to blast it away should I be concerned if some of the soda > gets into the oil galleries? > > I can clean the galleries with solvent but I am curious to know if the > soda might harm the bearings once everything is back together. > > Tank you, > John Spaur > San Jose, CA > ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/eyera3000@**gmail.com > > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From JPayne at ThorCon.net Mon Jan 16 20:34:15 2012 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:34:15 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Engine cleaning In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120116182612.020166f0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226E01A191B6@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Wire brush, liberally brush with Muriatic Acid (available at Home depot in the pool section) rinse /brush repeat, hit with prepsol/or acetone and paint. Gallon of acid runs about $3. Muriatic acid is a fantastic degreaser and can also be utilized to strip metals prior to replating. Also used to prevent "flash rust" for you guys who live in places where it is damp, and to etch galvanized metal prior to paint. Need to be careful not to leave bolts sit in too long (days) though, as it can cause steel to become brittle. One of my favorite uses is removing oil stains from concrete...............But I'm sure I'm the only LBC owner that has that problem. $ for $ it's tough to beat. Wear rubber gloves and use eye protection. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From hstandfa at iinet.net.au Mon Jan 16 22:17:39 2012 From: hstandfa at iinet.net.au (Noel and Helen standfast) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:17:39 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Supplier for Vredestein 165 Classics Message-ID: <4F150473.6080707@iinet.net.au> Hi listers I have a mate currently in Anaheim and he has offered to ship me back a set of 165 x 15 Vredesteins Sprint Classics for my 100, can anyone recommend a good tyre outlet that stocks Vredesteins in the Anaheim area? thanks Noel S From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Mon Jan 16 23:43:19 2012 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:43:19 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Supplier for Vredestein 165 Classics In-Reply-To: <4F150473.6080707@iinet.net.au> References: <4F150473.6080707@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <2FAA764F4F1F4E00BCF103A7BD04DF33@LeonardPCPC> Noel: I don't know where you are located, but you may not need a Vredestein outlet. I obtained my latest set through our local Les Schwab tire store. I talked to an associate and she said she would call Vredestein and see what she could do. She was able to order four tires and I had Schwab mount them. I stood by to make sure the spoke nipples were covered, that they put new tubes in, put powder in the tires when mounting, and put the plastic inserts in the wheels to protect the valve stems. I did not let them balance them as I knew they did not have the proper equipment. I balanced them myself with a bubble balancer. One tire turned out to be defective and Schwab ordered a replacement and mounted it at no extra cost to me. The cost of the tires was no more than I had expected had I purchased them from a Vredestein dealer. The fact that they were local was beneficial when there was a problem. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel and Helen standfast" To: "Healeys list" Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 9:17 PM Subject: [Healeys] Supplier for Vredestein 165 Classics > Hi listers > > I have a mate currently in Anaheim and he has offered to ship me back a > set of 165 x 15 Vredesteins Sprint Classics for my 100, can anyone > recommend a good tyre outlet that stocks Vredesteins in the Anaheim area? > > thanks > > > Noel S > _______________________________________________ From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Tue Jan 17 00:01:55 2012 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 07:01:55 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] 49 yrs with a freeze plug. Message-ID: <000301ccd4e5$e5dac1e0$b19045a0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> I read the article just now. He said he punched out one of the rear freeze plugs by "punching it out from the front". Has anyone else tried this? Thanks, Simon From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 00:49:59 2012 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 23:49:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Supplier for Vredestein 165 Classics In-Reply-To: <2FAA764F4F1F4E00BCF103A7BD04DF33@LeonardPCPC> References: <4F150473.6080707@iinet.net.au> <2FAA764F4F1F4E00BCF103A7BD04DF33@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <42E5E36E-277D-4FF4-86EF-8FC902180E58@gmail.com> I have had change tubes and remount and spin balance on their machines. did my xk 150 twice and my E type. no issues at all. yes I was surprised. ron r Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2012, at 10:43 PM, "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" wrote: > Noel: I don't know where you are located, but you may not need a Vredestein outlet. I obtained my latest set through our local Les Schwab tire store. > > I talked to an associate and she said she would call Vredestein and see what she could do. She was able to order four tires and I had Schwab mount them. I stood by to make sure the spoke nipples were covered, that they put new tubes in, put powder in the tires when mounting, and put the plastic inserts in the wheels to protect the valve stems. I did not let them balance them as I knew they did not have the proper equipment. I balanced them myself with a bubble balancer. > > One tire turned out to be defective and Schwab ordered a replacement and mounted it at no extra cost to me. > > The cost of the tires was no more than I had expected had I purchased them from a Vredestein dealer. The fact that they were local was beneficial when there was a problem. > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, CA, USA > 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel and Helen standfast" > To: "Healeys list" > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 9:17 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Supplier for Vredestein 165 Classics > > >> Hi listers >> >> I have a mate currently in Anaheim and he has offered to ship me back a set of 165 x 15 Vredesteins Sprint Classics for my 100, can anyone recommend a good tyre outlet that stocks Vredesteins in the Anaheim area? >> >> thanks >> >> >> Noel S >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/f.ronald.rader at gmail.com From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 17 05:54:38 2012 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 06:54:38 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Supplier for Vredestein 165 Classics In-Reply-To: <4F150473.6080707@iinet.net.au> References: <4F150473.6080707@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <003001ccd517$2c30c6e0$849254a0$@net> Noel, This past year I ordered a set of 165 x 15 Sprint Classics from XK Unlimited in San Luis Obispo, Calif. for $115 each including shipping. I had them mounted at a local tire store. Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Noel and Helen standfast Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:18 PM To: Healeys list Subject: [Healeys] Supplier for Vredestein 165 Classics Hi listers I have a mate currently in Anaheim and he has offered to ship me back a set of 165 x 15 Vredesteins Sprint Classics for my 100, can anyone recommend a good tyre outlet that stocks Vredesteins in the Anaheim area? thanks Noel S From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 17 07:21:47 2012 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:21:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Engine cleaning References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120116182612.020166f0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501ccd523$597df3a0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Check out the Bill Hirsch paint web sight. Any cast iron blocks that are free of oil and a flaky scale can be wire brushed and then painted with their engine enamels. No primers necessary on cast iron. That would be the block and heads on our engines. Steel items should be primed. I am a user and had good results with that process on my Healey engine. Remember, not all engine enamels are NOT equal. The Hirsch engine enamels encapsulate and adhere to light surface rust very well. Your on your own after you use the soda blast. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "john spaur" To: Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 9:29 PM Subject: [Healeys] Engine cleaning >I had my block cleaned at a machine shop and because I was not able to >paint it right away there is some light rust on the outside. > > If I use soda to blast it away should I be concerned if some of the soda > gets into the oil galleries? > > I can clean the galleries with solvent but I am curious to know if the > soda might harm the bearings once everything is back together. > > Tank you, > John Spaur > San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Jan 17 07:40:51 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:40:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Updates to Web Site Message-ID: <02ca01ccd526$05e99750$11bcc5f0$@verizon.net> Something new. Rather than blasting the list every week or so with updates to my site, I have created a page that lists all updates for the past several months in chronological order. This page will be updated as I make changes, additions, etc. so check it frequently. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Jan 17 08:02:37 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:02:37 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN4 0r BT7 Hardtop For Sale Message-ID: I have a customers Universal Laminations hardtop for sale. Newly repainted/repaired. Old Eng. White $3000.00 USD or best offer. Buyer has to deal with shipping. NFI at my end. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Jan 17 08:14:01 2012 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:14:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Engine cleaning In-Reply-To: <001501ccd523$597df3a0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120116182612.020166f0@pop.att.yahoo.com> <001501ccd523$597df3a0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <004c01ccd52a$a4eefc10$eeccf430$@rr.com> I used Moss's Healey Green engine paint to paint my block and exterior engine parts in 1999, and they are still in perfect condition. As with any paint job, the durability depends on how clean the surface is before painting. The engine paint requires no primer. Before painting, I degreased the parts with engine degreaser and rinsed well. For secondary degreasing and etching, I sprayed the bare block down with phosphoric acid metal prep according to the bottle directions, rinsed well, and blew it dry with compressed air. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark LaPierre Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:22 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net; john spaur Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine cleaning Check out the Bill Hirsch paint web sight. Any cast iron blocks that are free of oil and a flaky scale can be wire brushed and then painted with their engine enamels. No primers necessary on cast iron. That would be the block and heads on our engines. Steel items should be primed. I am a user and had good results with that process on my Healey engine. Remember, not all engine enamels are NOT equal. The Hirsch engine enamels encapsulate and adhere to light surface rust very well. Your on your own after you use the soda blast. Mark From bertvanbrande at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 08:51:22 2012 From: bertvanbrande at yahoo.com (Bert Van Brande) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 07:51:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Supplier for Vredestein 165 Classics In-Reply-To: <4F150473.6080707@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1326815482.65466.YahooMailClassic@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Performance tire plus in Long beach is close to Anaheim in Californian miles. However they ship for free so why go through the hassle? If you're out of state you even save on sales tax. Then have them mounted at your trusted wire wheel specialist. http://www.performanceplustire.com/products/productID/11784 Bert --- On Tue, 1/17/12, Noel and Helen standfast wrote: From: Noel and Helen standfast Subject: [Healeys] Supplier for Vredestein 165 Classics To: "Healeys list" Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 6:17 AM Hi listers I have a mate currently in Anaheim and he has offered to ship me back a set of 165 x 15 Vredesteins Sprint Classics for my 100, can anyone recommend a good tyre outlet that stocks Vredesteins in the Anaheim area? thanks Noel S Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bertvanbrande at yahoo.com From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Jan 17 08:57:55 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:57:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Engine cleaning In-Reply-To: <004c01ccd52a$a4eefc10$eeccf430$@rr.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120116182612.020166f0@pop.att.yahoo.com><001501ccd523$597df3a0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> <004c01ccd52a$a4eefc10$eeccf430$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4793BB42173A4D60B92C04DE6DBE6746@oscar> DuPont Surface Klean # A-3970S Rattle can stuff Phosphates simply replace rust with a different layer of oxidation to prevent rust oxidation. IMHO Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:14 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine cleaning I used Moss's Healey Green engine paint to paint my block and exterior engine parts in 1999, and they are still in perfect condition. As with any paint job, the durability depends on how clean the surface is before painting. The engine paint requires no primer. Before painting, I degreased the parts with engine degreaser and rinsed well. For secondary degreasing and etching, I sprayed the bare block down with phosphoric acid metal prep according to the bottle directions, rinsed well, and blew it dry with compressed air. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark LaPierre Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:22 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net; john spaur Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine cleaning Check out the Bill Hirsch paint web sight. Any cast iron blocks that are free of oil and a flaky scale can be wire brushed and then painted with their engine enamels. No primers necessary on cast iron. That would be the block and heads on our engines. Steel items should be primed. I am a user and had good results with that process on my Healey engine. Remember, not all engine enamels are NOT equal. The Hirsch engine enamels encapsulate and adhere to light surface rust very well. Your on your own after you use the soda blast. Mark Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Jan 17 09:37:06 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:37:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BN4 0r BT7 Hardtop For Sale Message-ID: <0C18A6CF1EA74BC797A0D9DE06417DE7@oscar> Apparently there is a great deal of confusion regarding these tops. This may NOT be a top from Universal Laminations, perhaps they were made by some other company, but this is one of the so called "factory authorized" tops with the two vertical bars seen through the rear window. Thanks to Charlie Baldwin for the info... dave -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Porter Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:03 AM To: 'Cc: healeylist' Subject: [Healeys] BN4 0r BT7 Hardtop For Sale I have a customers Universal Laminations hardtop for sale. Newly repainted/repaired. Old Eng. White $3000.00 USD or best offer. Buyer has to deal with shipping. NFI at my end. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com From peter.svilans at rogers.com Tue Jan 17 10:39:09 2012 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:39:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN4 orr BT7 Hardtop For Sale Message-ID: There is NOT a great deal of confusion regarding these hardtops. Universal Laminations in London made quality accessory hardtops for the four-cylinder and six-cylinder roadsters (as well as for a number of other contemporary cars). They came in small and large window versions, and the exterior was always covered in leathercloth vinyl. Matching fiberglass-framed sliding plexi windows were available for the fours. These were not BMC items, but because the factory didn't offer one of their own, they were "factory approved" (like the Radiomobile radio) for the four cylinders and the DHMC offered them on their list. Later, the factory decided to do their own, and the six-cylinder roadsters could be ordered with an official (not "so-called") factory hardtop of the familiar design with the two support bars behind the window. They were made by Jensens, had their own sales brochure, and could be had in primer or a range of matching BMC colours outlined in the official BMC colour scheme lists under the "hardtop" column. A number of other aftermarket hardtops, as well as other accessories such as luggage racks, could be had from other companies both here and abroad , but UL was the "proper" one for the fours. And then there's the transparent Pexidome..... Best Peter From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Jan 17 14:25:08 2012 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:25:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Engine cleaning In-Reply-To: <4793BB42173A4D60B92C04DE6DBE6746@oscar> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20120116182612.020166f0@pop.att.yahoo.com><001501ccd523$597df3a0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> <004c01ccd52a$a4eefc10$eeccf430$@rr.com> <4793BB42173A4D60B92C04DE6DBE6746@oscar> Message-ID: <006201ccd55e$7d108ae0$7731a0a0$@rr.com> The metal prep I used was concentrate in a bottle, available from the local auto parts store that specializes in supply to body shops. Mix with water as directed and put in an empty Windex bottle to spray it on. Spraying is a way to cover relatively large areas quickly. The solution can also be applied with a brush. Keep the surface wet with the solution for the time specified, then rinse well and dry. The solution will dissolve light surface rust and leave a phosphate coating after rinsing and drying that will prevent flash rusting, as well as provide a good basis for the finish paint. Phosphate is a corrosion inhibitor that is less hazardous than the chromate coatings previously used. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphate_conversion_coating Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: David Porter [mailto:frogeye at porterscustom.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:58 AM To: 'BJ8 Healeys'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Engine cleaning DuPont Surface Klean # A-3970S Rattle can stuff Phosphates simply replace rust with a different layer of oxidation to prevent rust oxidation. IMHO Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 01:45:56 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:45:56 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] OD for Sale Message-ID: All - This just came through Facebook. This person has a spare OD for sale. Condition unknown. goodgreenguru at aol.com I know nothing about this guy, and have NFI, just thought it might be a good deal for someone. Best, Alan From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Wed Jan 18 11:55:11 2012 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:55:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Engine cleaning Message-ID: <1326912911.26897.yint-ygo-j2me@web130204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When I use the phosphoric etch solution, the resultant white glaze gets scrubbed off using heavy duty #60 grit pads cut from a sanding belt, wire brush, and water. The process is repeated until clean metal appears. I've used gallons of this stuff and it works real well but it's slow and labor intensive. I try to do as little spraying as possible so I brush on. The end results rival sand blasting or acid dip. The 1958 Jeep fc170 chassis I'm working on now will take 12-15 repetitions. Best JK ------------------------------ On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 4:25 PM EST BJ8 Healeys wrote: >The metal prep I used was concentrate in a bottle, available from the local >auto parts store that specializes in supply to body shops. Mix with water >as directed and put in an empty Windex bottle to spray it on. Spraying is a >way to cover relatively large areas quickly. The solution can also be >applied with a brush. Keep the surface wet with the solution for the time >specified, then rinse well and dry. The solution will dissolve light >surface rust and leave a phosphate coating after rinsing and drying that >will prevent flash rusting, as well as provide a good basis for the finish >paint. Phosphate is a corrosion inhibitor that is less hazardous than the >chromate coatings previously used. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphate_conversion_coating > > >Steve Byers >HBJ8L/36666 >BJ8 Registry >Havelock, NC USA > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Porter [mailto:frogeye at porterscustom.com] >Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:58 AM >To: 'BJ8 Healeys'; healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: RE: [Healeys] Engine cleaning > >DuPont Surface Klean # A-3970S Rattle can stuff >Phosphates simply replace rust with a different layer of oxidation to >prevent rust oxidation. IMHO Dave From HealeyHundred at comcast.net Wed Jan 18 15:48:14 2012 From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net (Richard Gordon) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:48:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey books etc Message-ID: Hi Healey-o-philes, Once again, sorry to bomb the list with for sale stuff. Delete if you are not interested. Here is the next group of Healey collectables that are available: Austin Healey International Conclave 1992 Event Booklet Shows all the events of the week with infer on the special guests. $5.00 Healey 92 International-The soft bound book The 40th Anniversary Healey Meeting in Breckenridge, Colorado: The post event book, a real collectors piece. the remembrance book soft bound with 81 pages of memories edited by Roger Moment with assistance of Gary Anderson and Reid Trummel. If you were there, relive the experience. If you couldnt make it, enjoy it for the first time. Lots of color photos and the following articles on: 1. The Man Behind the Cars: Donald M. Healey CBE by Gary Anderson. 2. A forward by Roger Moment. 3. Introduction by Roger Moment 4. Special Recognition of the organizers. 5. Coming to Breckenridge. 6. The popularity Show. 7. Special Guests. 8. Awards. 9. Contests including Hill Climb, Models, Tours, Rallyes, Concours, Pinewood Derby Races and much more. The authors include Roger Moment, Gary Anderson, Margo Foster, Doug Auburg, David & Jeri Nock, Kris & Ginnie Klein, Roger Hively, Jim Morrison, Dick Luney and others. The book is in new condition. $15.00 Automobile Quaterly: 4th quarter 1986 Volume XXIV, Number 4: This auction is for the hard bound book Automobile Quarterly: Approximately 108 pages of great information and color photos. Chapters include: Donald Healey: His Own Way and The Cars of Donald Healey a Color Portfolio. $20.00 Donald Healey: My World of Cars. By Peter Garnier with Brian Healey and a forward by Carroll Shelby: hard bound Donald Healey: Published by Patrick Stephens Limited, part of Haynes Publishing, England, 1989 reprinted 1994. $40.00 Austin Healey 100/6 & 3000 All The Big 6-Cylinder Models: Super Profile by John Wheatley.A Foulis Motoring Book 1987 Haynes Publishing Group. $20.00 The Specials written by Geoffrey Healey himself published in 1980 by Gentry Books, London. $40.00 All are original and in like new condition. Let me know off list if you have an interest. I think that the prices are reasonable, but if you don't, let me know why. Thanks, Richard Gordon Rocky Mountain Austin-Healey Club 1830 South Newport Street Denver, Colorado 80224 Home 303-756-7427 Cell 303-913-1171 HealeyHundred at comcast.net From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Wed Jan 18 18:14:03 2012 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:14:03 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: hardtops and wheels for sale Message-ID: <16386CFE3B0E4597A3959E810EB337E7@JerryPC> wm. Severrin Thompson I have someone interested in the wheels, can you send me contact info? Need the size of wheels Weight Back spacing thanks, Jerry -----Original Message- From: Wm. Severin Thompson Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:23 AM To: 'Spridget list' ; mgs at autox.team.net Cc: team-thicko at autox.team.net ; 'Forum' Subject: [Healeys] hardtops and wheels for sale I have 2 hardtops for sale. The first is a BMC factory Bugeye hardtop, in excellent condition. White. Nice paint, glass, seals, etc. The second is a BMC factory MKII Sprite/MK I hardtop in good condition. These seem to be quite hard to find. Lastly, I have a set of 4 original 13" Sprite/Midget Minilite magnesium wheels, that were bead blasted & painted, in excellent condition. Items are located in Wisconsin. Please contact me off list to discuss further. WST _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net From adamnolde at yahoo.com Fri Jan 13 09:56:25 2012 From: adamnolde at yahoo.com (Adam Nolde) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:56:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow Message-ID: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> All, Has anyone conducted or read the results of anyone else's research regarding the fluid dynamics of the 100M cold air box? I'm no engineer, but a keen mind looking at the 1956 cold air box design can quickly work out the fact that it may have some ill effects on air delivery at higher RPM's. I'm specifically concerned about the size and depth of the box causing delivery issues for both, but more likely the rear carb. I've done some very crude calculations and crude bench testing just as a base to understand the flow involved and the possible scale. I've learned my engine can suck as much as 263CFM at 100% VE, but obviously it should be less, so I use this as a max. That puts the velocity at each carb above 85mph static, but much faster during intake stroke. The velocity at the air box inlet is above 65mph static. The box depth in front of each carb opening is only 1.75". I can see potential for not only vacuum creation and inefficient atmospheric replacement, but add to that the inefficient dynamics of the flat and non radiused orifices. I've also discovered a fair amount of scavenging occurs between carb orifices in-spite of the wide and presumably ample open ended box. Anyway, I've theorized that the probable advantage of thermodynamic control supplied by the air box, may be negated by its inefficient design and inability to supply sufficient volume. If anyone has done or knows of some CFD (computational flow dymanic) modeling and, better yet, 3d image modeling. Please let me know where to access the information. Thank you and kind regards, adam nolde 203-606-4675 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 100M.jpg] From jstmorris at yahoo.com Sun Jan 8 11:51:14 2012 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:51:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] List melt down Message-ID: <1326048674.19016.YahooMailClassic@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Steven;B B In mid December Mark Bradakis had a mini-meltdown of Team.Net and had to change a few things.B Some subscribers were inadvertently unsubscribed and it seemed to affect quite a number of us on the various bListsb.B B Over the last few weeks, even with the holiday season, quite a number of members have gotten re-subscribed. B On the other hand, a lot of people who had intentionally unsubscribe long ago were inadvertently re-subscribed.B It has been interesting watching them attempt to unsubscribed again.B [see attached email thread or go to the archives listed at the bottom of this email] B Through all this Mark Bradakis has worked wonders and kept things going. B Perhaps Chris Dimmock wrote it best. B bHappy New year to you all. And especially to you Mark B. You know, as I get older, I get tired of lots of things. That's life. But I never get tired of this list, or my Healey friends. Thank you Mark. And thank you to everyone. A question never asked is a question never answered. Mark has been one of the greatest resources we have ever had!b B Enjoy 2012B B --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, CanadaB B B B B B B B - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --- On Sun, 1/8/12, ATIGHTPROD at aol.com wrote: From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] list To: shop at justbrits.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Received: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 12:20 PM I save list mail quite often as I find the tips and links here extremelyB valuable. But this time when I was booted off the list, it wasn't easy to get back on and I still haven't found out why I was booted. I tried to post lettersB to the list for awhile, only to be told that since I didn't have access to theB list, my emails would be held until the "moderator" would give me the yay orB nay. I never heard anything back from the moderator, so I guess those emailsB were either left out in the internet void, or are still sitting in some inboxB waiting to be judged. B B I then followed the instructions given by theB website on how to subscribe to the list through email, only to get return emailsB that healey at autox.netB (mailto:healey at autox.net) B doesn't exist! SorryB we can't find that forum and we have no record of it! Thinking this is crazy, asB I've been sending emails and receiving emails from this list for years,B something must be wrong, so I would try again and the same thing would happen!B Frustrating. B B So after many tries and no satisfaction, I wentB back to the website, from the address I had in my saved mail from the list andB found a different way in and it worked! And so after all I went through tryingB to get back on, I thought I would help someone else with the shortcut and not doB the run around dance that I just went through. Just trying to help out. B B So believe it or not, but it wasn't easy to getB back here and now that I have, I'm going to try my darndest to stay. This listB keeps me informed, keeps me entertained and sometimes I hope that what I postB even helps someone else as it always seems I am on the receiving end of adviceB and/or tips, because of the vast and superior knowledge I have encountered here.B It's not quite Schindler's List, "The list is life!", but it's close for me andB has helped me keep my car on the road and that's something I never want toB B lose. B B So Ed, Happy New Year right back at cha', hope yourB stay in the hospital was short and successful and if you ever get booted off theB list for any reason and get a bit frustrated trying to jump through hoops justB to get back on, save this email with my address, as you can contact me and IB will help you anyway I can to get you back on this wonderful list we have. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 1/7/2012 11:33:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, shop at justbrits.com writes:B I'm fresh outta hospital but IB HAVE saved some List Mail [couple hundred??]. Are you guys even TRYINGB to tell me [& rest of List] you haven't saved even ONE (1) post in pastB year ?!?!? I do NOT believe you if you try ! ! ! HappyB New Year [from #2407 Local HospitalB ]. Ed [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a name of 11-12-11] From kymberlybostic at aol.com Tue Jan 10 17:38:22 2012 From: kymberlybostic at aol.com (Ms. K.S.Bostic, MBA) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:38:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Early 100-Six Racing Message-ID: <8CE9E10747FEA1E-1BE8-6B298@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> Hello, I am the grandaughter of LaRuth Bostic. I believe the attached is confirmation of " a interesting and notable piece of history". I hope this information is helpful. Feel free to reach out to me with any questions or concerns. Sincerly, Ms.K.S.Bostic,MBA Early 100-Six Racing from [Patton Dickson] [Permanent Link][Original] To: Healey List Subject: Early 100-Six Racing From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:44:56 -0500 While doing a little more digging on early 100-Six racing, I found a list of many SCCA races listing the entrants along with car for 1957 (LOTS of Healeys). If you follow this link http://wsrp.wz.cz/natus1957.html#179 , it lists La Ruth Bostic driving a 100-6 in 3 races at Riverside in 1957 I decided to see who she was I came across this link http://www.mshf.com/cgi/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=categories&action=display&num=109 3626162 referring to a LaRuth Bostic (slightly different spelling) as being the first African-American female race car driver. Does anyone know about this, its an interesting and notable piece of history if it can be confirmed. Patton -- Patton Dickson - '57 A-H 100-Six Homepage - http://Austin-Healeys.com/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of LaRuth_Bostic.pdf] From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 23:55:30 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:55:30 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow In-Reply-To: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Adam - Any flow inefficiencies in the cold air box design are overcome by the positive air differential created by having the front end of the CAB paper tube face directly forward into the oncoming air stream when driving at high speed. In fact, the speed ram effect will provide more HP improvement than having cold dense air going into the carbs. If you look at pictures of some 100S/4 racers in the day, many of the cars have run the paper air tube past the grill or even through the shroud into the oncoming air stream to maximize positive pressure in the CAB. It's about the air pressure, not the air temperature. Basically it's a cheap supercharger when you are driving fast. Alan On 1/14/12, Adam Nolde wrote: > All, > > Has anyone conducted or read the results of anyone else's research > regarding the fluid dynamics of the 100M cold air box? > > I'm no engineer, but a > keen mind looking at the 1956 cold air box design can quickly work out the > fact that it may have some ill effects on air delivery at higher RPM's. I'm > specifically concerned about the size and depth of the box causing delivery > issues for both, but more likely the rear carb. > > > I've done some very crude > calculations and crude bench testing just as a base to understand the flow > involved and the possible scale. I've learned my engine can suck as much as > 263CFM at 100% VE, but obviously it should be less, so I use this as a max. > That puts the velocity at each carb above 85mph static, but much faster > during > intake stroke. The velocity at the air box inlet is above 65mph static. > The > box depth in front of each carb opening is only 1.75". I can see potential > for not only vacuum creation and inefficient atmospheric replacement, but > add > to that the inefficient dynamics of the flat and non radiused orifices. > I've also discovered a fair amount of scavenging occurs between carb > orifices > in-spite of the wide and presumably ample open ended box. > > Anyway, I've > theorized that the probable advantage of thermodynamic control supplied by > the > air box, may be negated by its inefficient design and inability to supply > sufficient volume. > > If anyone has done or knows of some CFD (computational > flow dymanic) modeling and, better yet, 3d image modeling. Please let me > know > where to access the information. > > Thank you and kind regards, > > adam nolde > 203-606-4675 > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > 100M.jpg] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -- Sent from my mobile device From mark at bradakis.com Thu Jan 19 01:18:17 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 01:18:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oops Message-ID: <4F17D1C9.3070105@bradakis.com> There may be an old message or two that got reposted. I've been working on cleaning up all the old messages waiting approval. There were about 72,000 of them, mostly spam. While my net was down I did some major cleanup, have been doing it here and there. Down to just over 4,000 now, but I have pushed the wrong button a few times in the process. Don't worry, there is nothing wrong with your set, don't touch that dial! mjb. From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 02:05:06 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:05:06 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow In-Reply-To: <1500DBA7-A7AE-4559-B9AB-07D4D8954E29@yahoo.com> References: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <71DB377F-9FC1-4D68-BB03-5787DB1E2948@yahoo.com> <1500DBA7-A7AE-4559-B9AB-07D4D8954E29@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey Adam - Thanks for the kind words. Note that putting on trumpets in the box (and other modifications) should help improve the flow at high speeds, but oddly enough the turbidity at less than half throttle is probably a good thing to help evenly vaporize the fuel, improving consumption and low speed torque. I'm sure you could probably get much more by smoothing out the profile of the dashpot piston and SU body Venturi chamber. I wonder if anyone has ever done this? Best, Alan On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:38 PM, A wrote: > Cheers to that Alan! > > It's easy to over-think these things. ...but it's also a lot of fun. A > friend of mine refers to this sort of exercise as 'mental masturbation'. > Eventually you have to either finish (hopefully happily) or just give up. > > > > Adam Nolde > Whitney Metals, LLC > 203-606-4675 From austin.healey at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 04:56:56 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:56:56 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow In-Reply-To: References: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <886CDDBF-91C5-4D6C-9FA3-2E61114EC07E@gmail.com> Hi Alan, No, you cant pressurise a cold air box. Never set up your cold air box so it rams air in at higher than atmospheric pressure straight into your carbs If you do, the end result will be too much air, not enough fuel, a lean mixture and a destroyed/ melted piston or 4. Probably at high rpm. A cold air box is just that. A cold air box - the ability for cold air to be sucked into a carb on a hot engine. A cold air box generally is not sealed. It is open at one end (or somewhere) so it can't pressurize and force air into the carbs at higher than atmosperic pressure. Think about an old supercharger for a minute. The carb - often an SU on the sort of superchargers found on BMC cars - is on the outside, it mixes the fuel and air which is then compressed and fed to the engine. I.e it is a fuel air mix which is compressed, not compressed air alone. I've seen the results from some homemade "cold air sealed ram boxes" - and trust me, unless your dad owns a piston company, you don't want to go there. So the end issue is the 'flow' into the cold air box is pretty irrelevent, it's just a way to get cooler than underbonnet air in front of the carbs. Whether the volumetric area of a 100m cold air box is enough - no idea. But pressurize or seal a cold air box on SUs at your own peril.... Best Chris Sent from my iPhone On 19/01/2012, at 5:55 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Adam - > > Any flow..... > > > It's about the air pressure, not the air temperature. Basically it's > a cheap supercharger when you are driving fast. > > Alan > > On 1/14/12, Adam Nolde wrote: >> All, >> >> ...The box depth in front of each carb opening is only 1.75". I >> can see potential >> for not only vacuum creation and inefficient atmospheric >> replacement, but >> add >> to that the inefficient dynamics of the flat and non radiused >> orifices. >> I've also discovered a fair amount of scavenging occurs between carb >> orifices >> in-spite of the wide and presumably ample open ended box. From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jan 19 06:09:23 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 05:09:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow In-Reply-To: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F181603.1020902@comcast.net> I recall reading a magazine article--probably one of the club mags--about a guy that raced a 100M. He got better performance with a couple velocity stacks on the carbs. Dunno if he proved it with a dyno or track times, but he was convinced. Also, the box is mildly pressurized by the air under the valve cover that vents into the box (at least ours is). OTOH, the box looks pretty cool. Bob On 1/13/2012 8:56 AM, Adam Nolde wrote: > All, > > Has anyone conducted or read the results of anyone else's research > regarding the fluid dynamics of the 100M cold air box? > > I'm no engineer, but a > keen mind looking at the 1956 cold air box design can quickly work out the > fact that it may have some ill effects on air delivery at higher RPM's. I'm > specifically concerned about the size and depth of the box causing delivery > issues for both, but more likely the rear carb. > > > I've done some very crude > calculations and crude bench testing just as a base to understand the flow > involved and the possible scale. I've learned my engine can suck as much as > 263CFM at 100% VE, but obviously it should be less, so I use this as a max. > That puts the velocity at each carb above 85mph static, but much faster during > intake stroke. The velocity at the air box inlet is above 65mph static. The > box depth in front of each carb opening is only 1.75". I can see potential > for not only vacuum creation and inefficient atmospheric replacement, but add > to that the inefficient dynamics of the flat and non radiused orifices. > I've also discovered a fair amount of scavenging occurs between carb orifices > in-spite of the wide and presumably ample open ended box. > > Anyway, I've > theorized that the probable advantage of thermodynamic control supplied by the > air box, may be negated by its inefficient design and inability to supply > sufficient volume. > > If anyone has done or knows of some CFD (computational > flow dymanic) modeling and, better yet, 3d image modeling. Please let me know > where to access the information. > > Thank you and kind regards, > > adam nolde > 203-606-4675 > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From frogeye at porterscustom.com Thu Jan 19 06:38:16 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:38:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: 100M cold air boxes and flow Message-ID: OTOH.. if you ask any HVAC guy he can tell you how much flow efficiency is lost with simple bends in a duct. And the two nearly 90 degree bends are killers. I use velocity stacks and the old engine will pull till it runs out of carburetor.. :~) Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world Adam - Any flow inefficiencies in the cold air box design are overcome by the positive air differential created by having the front end of the CAB paper tube face directly forward into the oncoming air stream when driving at high speed. In fact, the speed ram effect will provide more HP improvement than having cold dense air going into the carbs. If you look at pictures of some 100S/4 racers in the day, many of the cars have run the paper air tube past the grill or even through the shroud into the oncoming air stream to maximize positive pressure in the CAB. It's about the air pressure, not the air temperature. Basically it's a cheap supercharger when you are driving fast. Alan From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Thu Jan 19 06:52:03 2012 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:52:03 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow In-Reply-To: <4F181603.1020902@comcast.net> References: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4F181603.1020902@comcast.net> Message-ID: As far as I know, the overflow pipes of the carbs should go into the cold air box and are sealed at the air box to preasurize the fuel reservoirs, by the ram effect occurs. This gives a richer flow of fuel. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bob Spidell Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 14:09 An: Adam Nolde Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow I recall reading a magazine article--probably one of the club mags--about a guy that raced a 100M. He got better performance with a couple velocity stacks on the carbs. Dunno if he proved it with a dyno or track times, but he was convinced. Also, the box is mildly pressurized by the air under the valve cover that vents into the box (at least ours is). OTOH, the box looks pretty cool. Bob On 1/13/2012 8:56 AM, Adam Nolde wrote: > All, > > Has anyone conducted or read the results of anyone else's research > regarding the fluid dynamics of the 100M cold air box? > > I'm no engineer, but a > keen mind looking at the 1956 cold air box design can quickly work out > the fact that it may have some ill effects on air delivery at higher > RPM's. I'm specifically concerned about the size and depth of the box > causing delivery issues for both, but more likely the rear carb. > > > I've done some very crude > calculations and crude bench testing just as a base to understand the > flow involved and the possible scale. I've learned my engine can suck > as much as 263CFM at 100% VE, but obviously it should be less, so I use this as a max. > That puts the velocity at each carb above 85mph static, but much > faster during intake stroke. The velocity at the air box inlet is > above 65mph static. The box depth in front of each carb opening is > only 1.75". I can see potential for not only vacuum creation and > inefficient atmospheric replacement, but add to that the inefficient dynamics of the flat and non radiused orifices. > I've also discovered a fair amount of scavenging occurs between carb > orifices in-spite of the wide and presumably ample open ended box. > > Anyway, I've > theorized that the probable advantage of thermodynamic control > supplied by the air box, may be negated by its inefficient design and > inability to supply sufficient volume. > > If anyone has done or knows of some CFD (computational flow dymanic) > modeling and, better yet, 3d image modeling. Please let me know where > to access the information. > > Thank you and kind regards, > > adam nolde > 203-606-4675 > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 08:14:34 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:14:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Gearbox Covers (Tunnels) Message-ID: I could really use some help identifying some Healey gearbox covers (tunnels) that I have accumulated. http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/wp-content/40.jpg I'm pretty sure the upper right is a BJ8 (As I recall the BJ7 was cast in a female mold). Below that is a TR3 and the 2 upper left are TR6 One of the other 5 has no ash tray hole and some look shorter than others. Would appreciate opinions. Many thanks. Michael Salter http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=445 From peter.svilans at rogers.com Thu Jan 19 10:41:34 2012 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:41:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Gearbox Covers (Tunnels) Message-ID: Hard to tell from the photo, but three of the sideshift covers (left, with tag, bottom right, far right ) appear to have the later double-bend, deeper bulkhead flange of the cranked-lever sideshift 3000's. The "missing" ashtray one looks to have a 6"x 6" plate covering over the ashtray hole. Peter From palmbeachderm at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 11:03:26 2012 From: palmbeachderm at yahoo.com (steven rosenberg md) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:03:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] spark plugs for '67 3000 and flooded engine Message-ID: <1326996206.59708.YahooMailClassic@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> had trouble getting engine started after period of not being used. i suspect i flooded the engine but eventually got it started. want to change spark plugs but don't know the correct gap and if anyone recommends a specific brand. also any suggestions about what to do if you suspect the engine gets flooded with too much fuel. thanks; obviously i am not a mechanic but love my car The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 11:35:54 2012 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:35:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] spark plugs for '67 3000 and flooded engine Message-ID: <1326998154.38249.yint-ygo-j2me@web130206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sounds like it's time to get a workshop manual. Best JK ------------------------------ On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 1:03 PM EST steven rosenberg md wrote: >had trouble getting engine started after period of not being used. i suspect i flooded the engine but eventually got it started. want to change spark plugs but don't know the correct gap and if anyone recommends a specific brand. also any suggestions about what to do if you suspect the engine gets flooded with too much fuel. >thanks; obviously i am not a mechanic but love my car. From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Thu Jan 19 11:58:24 2012 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:58:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] spark plugs for '67 3000 and flooded engine In-Reply-To: <1326996206.59708.YahooMailClassic@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1326996206.59708.YahooMailClassic@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46376F5093B64B4D998FA3B6246BC3A0@LeonardPCPC> Steven: A Google search came up with an informative article on spark plugs from ntahc: http://www.ntahc.org/techtips/sparkplug1.html The final paragraph says: "...So what do you choose? Well, if you are concours, use the original spark plugs. If your car's engine is essentially set up the way that it left the factory, use the factory recommended plugs. If you have added power improvements to your car (higher compression ratio, more cam, more carbs, electronic ignition, multi-spark discharge, more powerful coil), consider stepping up to the next colder heat range. Added real power? Move two steps colder. Then, read the plugs after 100 miles, 500 miles and 1,000 miles. If the plugs are fouling or coated with carbon, move back to the next hotter plug. If the ceramic is cracked or chalky or if either of the electrodes is burning away (the gap has increased) go colder...". The factory recommendation is Champion UN12Y. I have been using them since I acquired my Healey (1970) without any problems or known loss of performance. Can't help on flooding other than to recommend that you check to make sure you are getting adequate spark at the plugs and not applying too much choke. "Experts" will have more recommendations. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven rosenberg md" To: Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:03 AM Subject: [Healeys] spark plugs for '67 3000 and flooded engine > had trouble getting engine started after period of not being used. i > suspect i flooded the engine but eventually got it started. want to change > spark plugs but don't know the correct gap and if anyone recommends a > specific brand........ From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 12:03:27 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:03:27 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] spark plugs for '67 3000 and flooded engine In-Reply-To: <1326996206.59708.YahooMailClassic@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1326996206.59708.YahooMailClassic@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Carb needle valve. Could be sticking.. dash pods could also be gunned up. Choke could be not returning to park. Sounds like carbs need cleaning/rebuild Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jan 19, 2012 10:03 AM, "steven rosenberg md" wrote: > had trouble getting engine started after period of not being used. i > suspect i flooded the engine but eventually got it started. want to change > spark plugs but don't know the correct gap and if anyone recommends a > specific brand. also any suggestions about what to do if you suspect the > engine gets flooded with too much fuel. > thanks; obviously i am not a mechanic but love my car > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of > this communication cannot be guaranteed. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jan 19 12:59:09 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] spark plugs for '67 3000 and flooded engine In-Reply-To: <1326996206.59708.YahooMailClassic@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1851536272.1004849.1327003149136.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Standard procedure for a flooded engine is to run the starter with throttles held wide open ('WOT'); i.e. gas pedal to the floor. Without choke, of course. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven rosenberg md" To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:03:26 AM Subject: [Healeys] spark plugs for '67 3000 and flooded engine had trouble getting engine started after period of not being used. i suspect i flooded the engine but eventually got it started. want to change spark plugs but don't know the correct gap and if anyone recommends a specific brand. also any suggestions about what to do if you suspect the engine gets flooded with too much fuel. thanks; obviously i am not a mechanic but love my car From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jan 19 13:02:31 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] spark plugs for '67 3000 and flooded engine In-Reply-To: <1326996206.59708.YahooMailClassic@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1535689248.1005012.1327003351461.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Nominal plug gap is 0.025". Spark plug brands are a religious topic but I've used Champion RN12YC for almost 30 years with no problems. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven rosenberg md" To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:03:26 AM Subject: [Healeys] spark plugs for '67 3000 and flooded engine had trouble getting engine started after period of not being used. i suspect i flooded the engine but eventually got it started. want to change spark plugs but don't know the correct gap and if anyone recommends a specific brand. also any suggestions about what to do if you suspect the engine gets flooded with too much fuel. thanks; obviously i am not a mechanic but love my car The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu Jan 19 13:04:06 2012 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:04:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] spark plugs for '67 3000 and flooded engine In-Reply-To: <46376F5093B64B4D998FA3B6246BC3A0@LeonardPCPC> References: <1326996206.59708.YahooMailClassic@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <46376F5093B64B4D998FA3B6246BC3A0@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <002d01ccd6e5$800974e0$801c5ea0$@verizon.net> Go to: http://www.gsparkplug.com/shop/ And go to "Spark Plug Help" at the top of the page to get a pull down menu of everything you want to know about spark plugs. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Len and/or Marge Hartnett Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:58 PM To: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] spark plugs for '67 3000 and flooded engine Steven: A Google search came up with an informative article on spark plugs from ntahc: http://www.ntahc.org/techtips/sparkplug1.html The final paragraph says: "...So what do you choose? Well, if you are concours, use the original spark plugs. If your car's engine is essentially set up the way that it left the factory, use the factory recommended plugs. If you have added power improvements to your car (higher compression ratio, more cam, more carbs, electronic ignition, multi-spark discharge, more powerful coil), consider stepping up to the next colder heat range. Added real power? Move two steps colder. Then, read the plugs after 100 miles, 500 miles and 1,000 miles. If the plugs are fouling or coated with carbon, move back to the next hotter plug. If the ceramic is cracked or chalky or if either of the electrodes is burning away (the gap has increased) go colder...". The factory recommendation is Champion UN12Y. I have been using them since I acquired my Healey (1970) without any problems or known loss of performance. Can't help on flooding other than to recommend that you check to make sure you are getting adequate spark at the plugs and not applying too much choke. "Experts" will have more recommendations. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven rosenberg md" To: Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:03 AM Subject: [Healeys] spark plugs for '67 3000 and flooded engine > had trouble getting engine started after period of not being used. i > suspect i flooded the engine but eventually got it started. want to change > spark plugs but don't know the correct gap and if anyone recommends a > specific brand........ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com Thu Jan 19 13:28:33 2012 From: Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:28:33 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] great spark plug reading charts and tips In-Reply-To: References: <1326996206.59708.YahooMailClassic@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF63314FA6C15@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> Here is a pretty neat web site for plug reading. I am trying to track down a big vaccum leak. I have been after it for a couple of years, actually. I am going to try a mechanic with a smoke machine next. My party smoke machine didn't work too well. I got a borescope for Christmas. What I see in the combustion chamber is too scary and hard to interpret. http://www.4secondsflat.com/Spark_plug_reading.html Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From peter.svilans at rogers.com Thu Jan 19 13:32:48 2012 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:32:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Gearbox Covers (Tunnels) Message-ID: <81D19690728A4D75803F04CC402C3EF3@9535DEE118EC44B> I believe the BN2 covers had only a single welded seam on top instead of two. Same part no., though - 4B 3178. And I seem to recall from back in your shop days, that D. modified six-cylinder covers to fit the BN2. Maybe he can remember what was involved, or still has notes. Peter From britishcars at shaw.ca Thu Jan 19 14:03:32 2012 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:03:32 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] flywheel Message-ID: <006301ccd6ed$cdafde70$690f9b50$@ca> Hi All, I'm in need of a flywheel that can be modified to set up an engine dyno. The engine is a 2.9litre. The flywheel will ultimately by modified such that it's only use will be on the dyno. Given that these things weigh more than a boat anchor...one close to Vancouver, Canada would be beneficial. Thanks Paul From peter.svilans at rogers.com Thu Jan 19 14:37:38 2012 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:37:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Gearbox Covers (Tunnels) Message-ID: <2D71D70BAFA44EC38642BBB87B6523CA@9535DEE118EC44B> Certainly, Mike From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Jan 19 15:05:59 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:05:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Gearbox Covers (Tunnels) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002701ccd6f6$86e3d9c0$94ab8d40$@net> Mike, Upper right is certainly BJ8 with no ash tray aperture because it was in the console. I think Peter has a handle on the other Healey ones. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: 2012-01-19 10:15 To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Gearbox Covers (Tunnels) I could really use some help identifying some Healey gearbox covers (tunnels) that I have accumulated. http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/wp-content/40.jpg I'm pretty sure the upper right is a BJ8 (As I recall the BJ7 was cast in a female mold). Below that is a TR3 and the 2 upper left are TR6 One of the other 5 has no ash tray hole and some look shorter than others. Would appreciate opinions. Many thanks. Michael Salter http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=445 $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Thu Jan 19 16:18:21 2012 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:18:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow Message-ID: <233a3.242fd336.3c49febd@aol.com> Don't know much about the science of the cold air box, but do know that when holes were drilled through the rear of the box on Bruno's car on the Bonneville salt flats in 2009, the car went faster. And not just a little faster, considerably faster. You'd have to talk with him about it, for all the correct details, but it worked as far as getting more speed out of the car. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 ps, Joe explains the process a bit in the video as we waited in the staging line on day two. In a message dated 1/18/2012 10:15:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, adamnolde at yahoo.com writes: All, Has anyone conducted or read the results of anyone else's research regarding the fluid dynamics of the 100M cold air box? I'm no engineer, but a keen mind looking at the 1956 cold air box design can quickly work out the fact that it may have some ill effects on air delivery at higher RPM's. I'm specifically concerned about the size and depth of the box causing delivery issues for both, but more likely the rear carb. I've done some very crude calculations and crude bench testing just as a base to understand the flow involved and the possible scale. I've learned my engine can suck as much as 263CFM at 100% VE, but obviously it should be less, so I use this as a max. That puts the velocity at each carb above 85mph static, but much faster during intake stroke. The velocity at the air box inlet is above 65mph static. The box depth in front of each carb opening is only 1.75". I can see potential for not only vacuum creation and inefficient atmospheric replacement, but add to that the inefficient dynamics of the flat and non radiused orifices. I've also discovered a fair amount of scavenging occurs between carb orifices in-spite of the wide and presumably ample open ended box. Anyway, I've theorized that the probable advantage of thermodynamic control supplied by the air box, may be negated by its inefficient design and inability to supply sufficient volume. If anyone has done or knows of some CFD (computational flow dymanic) modeling and, better yet, 3d image modeling. Please let me know where to access the information. Thank you and kind regards, adam nolde 203-606-4675 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 100M.jpg] Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/atightprod at aol.com From Editorgary at aol.com Thu Jan 19 17:05:02 2012 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:05:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Cold Air Boxes and Velocity Stacks Message-ID: <725ff.36023f40.3c4a09ae@aol.com> In a message dated 1/19/12 11:28:44 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > He got better performance with a couple velocity > stacks on the carbs. Dunno if he proved it with a dyno or track times, > but he > was > convinced. > Ah, there's the rub -- you can't prove one or the other by dyno testing, OR by track times. The first doesn't work because there's no air flow on a dyno (other than induced by a BF fan, and that isn't accurate). Track times don't work because of the multitude of other variables. The closest you'll come is the Menadue Method. You have a straight even slope behind the works that allows you to run the car at speed, under load in a controlled setting. (Incidentally, there was just such a ramp/hill constructed at Brooklands, for just that purpose. It's still there.) You run the car up the hill against the clock, make one change, and do it again. Reduced time -- right direction; increased time -- wrong direction. That's how they set the timing and made all the other changes that improved performance. Gary From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 19 17:05:12 2012 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:05:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] flywheel In-Reply-To: <006301ccd6ed$cdafde70$690f9b50$@ca> References: <006301ccd6ed$cdafde70$690f9b50$@ca> Message-ID: <5527486B-C647-4C1A-BFCC-E444A4E0142F@sbcglobal.net> Yes we have them available used. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jan 19, 2012, at 1:03 PM, PG wrote: > Hi All, > > > > I'm in need of a flywheel that can be modified to set up an engine > dyno. > The engine is a 2.9litre. > > > > The flywheel will ultimately by modified such that it's only use > will be on > the dyno. > > > > Given that these things weigh more than a boat anchor...one close to > Vancouver, Canada would be beneficial. > > > > Thanks > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 01:30:42 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:30:42 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow In-Reply-To: <71DB377F-9FC1-4D68-BB03-5787DB1E2948@yahoo.com> References: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <71DB377F-9FC1-4D68-BB03-5787DB1E2948@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Adam - Anyone who is driving 35 MPH won't win at Sebring ot Le Mans! I think that's the point... Cheers, Alan On 1/19/12, A wrote: > Thanks for replying Alan. > > I'm not normally contrarian, but... > > I've been studying heavily on the subject(s). Going so far as to dig up and > read a 1969 NASA study on the subject of perpendicular orifices to fluid > dynamics. > > I have come to some indisputable data points that suggest either further > computation or/and modeling should be applied to determine the true > goings-on. > > I have always planned on having the protruding CAB through the grill. Not > just for the ram air effect, but because it looks great too. I've even seen > a guy taking it in through the left head lamp orifice using a bell mouth, > which must give even greater effect. > > In short I agree with the conventional wisdom EXCEPT at mid to low speeds. > At say 4-5.5k rpm the air being drawn by the engine through the 4" CAB has a > velocity around 30-45mph. Thus, no ram air effect until over say 40mph and > that's before considering the possible shortcut-comings of the box itself. > > Thus, what's really troubling me is the questions of turbidity and scavenge > inside the box. The '69 NASA study proved that the following items had > significant effects on perpendicular ducted flow: > > 1 a flat vs round opposite wall to the orifice > 2 a flat vs radius orifice edge > 3 parallel inline orifices > 4 orifice distance in relation to feeder duct termination points and > opposing wall. > > Basically the OEM air box incorporates the most negative aspects of the NASA > study. If you look at the b > > Adam Nolde > Whitney Metals, LLC > 203-606-4675 > > > On Jan 19, 2012, at 1:55, Alan Seigrist wrote: > >> Adam - >> >> Any flow inefficiencies in the cold air box design are overcome by the >> positive air differential created by having the front end of the CAB >> paper tube face directly forward into the oncoming air stream when >> driving at high speed. In fact, the speed ram effect will provide >> more HP improvement than having cold dense air going into the carbs. >> >> If you look at pictures of some 100S/4 racers in the day, many of the >> cars have run the paper air tube past the grill or even through the >> shroud into the oncoming air stream to maximize positive pressure in >> the CAB. >> >> It's about the air pressure, not the air temperature. Basically it's >> a cheap supercharger when you are driving fast. >> >> Alan >> >> On 1/14/12, Adam Nolde wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> Has anyone conducted or read the results of anyone else's research >>> regarding the fluid dynamics of the 100M cold air box? >>> >>> I'm no engineer, but a >>> keen mind looking at the 1956 cold air box design can quickly work out >>> the >>> fact that it may have some ill effects on air delivery at higher RPM's. >>> I'm >>> specifically concerned about the size and depth of the box causing >>> delivery >>> issues for both, but more likely the rear carb. >>> >>> >>> I've done some very crude >>> calculations and crude bench testing just as a base to understand the >>> flow >>> involved and the possible scale. I've learned my engine can suck as much >>> as >>> 263CFM at 100% VE, but obviously it should be less, so I use this as a >>> max. >>> That puts the velocity at each carb above 85mph static, but much faster >>> during >>> intake stroke. The velocity at the air box inlet is above 65mph static. >>> The >>> box depth in front of each carb opening is only 1.75". I can see >>> potential >>> for not only vacuum creation and inefficient atmospheric replacement, but >>> add >>> to that the inefficient dynamics of the flat and non radiused orifices. >>> I've also discovered a fair amount of scavenging occurs between carb >>> orifices >>> in-spite of the wide and presumably ample open ended box. >>> >>> Anyway, I've >>> theorized that the probable advantage of thermodynamic control supplied >>> by >>> the >>> air box, may be negated by its inefficient design and inability to supply >>> sufficient volume. >>> >>> If anyone has done or knows of some CFD (computational >>> flow dymanic) modeling and, better yet, 3d image modeling. Please let me >>> know >>> where to access the information. >>> >>> Thank you and kind regards, >>> >>> adam nolde >>> 203-606-4675 >>> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name >>> of >>> 100M.jpg] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device > -- Sent from my mobile device From austin.healey at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 03:09:44 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:09:44 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow In-Reply-To: References: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6F4090E6-15E8-41B2-8B35-F020D27FC421@gmail.com> Hi Alan, No, you cant pressurise a cold air box. Never set up your cold air box so it rams air in at higher than atmospheric pressure straight into your carbs If you do, the end result will be too much air, not enough fuel, a lean mixture and a destroyed/ melted piston or 4. Probably at high rpm. A cold air box is just that. A cold air box - the ability for cold air to be sucked into a carb on a hot engine. A cold air box generally is not sealed. It is open at one end (or somewhere) so it can't pressurize and force air into the carbs at higher than atmosperic pressure. Think about an old supercharger for a minute. The carb - often an SU on the sort of superchargers found on BMC cars - is on the outside, it mixes the fuel and air which is then compressed and fed to the engine. I.e it is a fuel air mix which is compressed, not compressed air alone. I've seen the results from some homemade "cold air sealed ram boxes" - and trust me, unless your dad owns a piston company, you don't want to go there. So the end issue is the 'flow' into the cold air box is pretty irrelevent, it's just a way to get cooler than underbonnet air in front of the carbs. Whether the volumetric area of a 100m cold air box is enough - no idea. But pressurize or seal a cold air box on SUs at your own peril.... Best Chris Sent from my iPhone On 19/01/2012, at 5:55 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Adam - > > Any flow..... > > If you look at pictures of some 100S/4 racers in the day, many of the > cars have run the paper air tube past the grill or even through the > shroud into the oncoming air stream to maximize positive pressure in > the CAB. > > It's about the air pressure, not the air temperature. Basically it's > a cheap supercharger when you are driving fast. > > Alan > > On 1/14/12, Adam Nolde wrote: >> All, >> >> Has anyone conducted or read the results of anyone else's research >> regarding the fluid dynamics of the 100M cold air box? >> >> I'm no engineer, but a >> keen mind looking at the 1956 cold air box design can quickly work >> out the >> fact that it may have some ill effects on air delivery at higher >> RPM's. I'm >> specifically concerned about the size and depth of the box causing >> delivery >> issues for both, but more likely the rear carb. >> >> >> I've done some very crude >> calculations and crude bench testing just as a base to understand >> the flow >> involved and the possible scale. I've learned my engine can suck >> as much as >> 263CFM at 100% VE, but obviously it should be less, so I use this >> as a max. >> That puts the velocity at each carb above 85mph static, but much >> faster >> during >> intake stroke. The velocity at the air box inlet is above 65mph >> static. >> The >> box depth in front of each carb opening is only 1.75". I can see >> potential >> for not only vacuum creation and inefficient atmospheric >> replacement, but >> add >> to that the inefficient dynamics of the flat and non radiused >> orifices. >> I've also discovered a fair amount of scavenging occurs between carb >> orifices >> in-spite of the wide and presumably ample open ended box. From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jan 19 07:31:40 2012 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:31:40 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow In-Reply-To: <886CDDBF-91C5-4D6C-9FA3-2E61114EC07E@gmail.com> References: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <886CDDBF-91C5-4D6C-9FA3-2E61114EC07E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F18294C.2080902@chello.nl> You forget that SU's are pressure compensated so there should not be no issue with "ram air pressure", which is rather low anyway (unless you use a mighty big cone) and not to be compared with the pressures of turbos or compressors. If you want more mixture in your engine get double DellOrtos, Webers, Mikunis, Solex's, any decent sidedrafts on a proper manifold, one barrel per cilinder. Kees Oudesluijs. Op 19-1-2012 12:56, Chris Dimmock schreef: > Hi Alan, > No, you cant pressurise a cold air box. > Never set up your cold air box so it rams air in at higher than > atmospheric pressure straight into your carbs > If you do, the end result will be too much air, not enough fuel, a > lean mixture and a destroyed/ melted piston or 4. Probably at high rpm. > A cold air box is just that. A cold air box - the ability for cold > air to be sucked into a carb on a hot engine. A cold air box generally > is not sealed. It is open at one end (or somewhere) so it can't > pressurize and force air into the carbs at higher than atmosperic > pressure. > Think about an old supercharger for a minute. The carb - often an SU > on the sort of superchargers found on BMC cars - is on the outside, it ' > mixes the fuel and air which is then compressed and fed to the engine. > I.e it is a fuel air mix which is compressed, not compressed air alone. > I've seen the results from some homemade "cold air sealed ram boxes" - > and trust me, unless your dad owns a piston company, you don't want to > go there. > So the end issue is the 'flow' into the cold air box is pretty > irrelevent, it's just a way to get cooler than underbonnet air in > front of the carbs. > Whether the volumetric area of a 100m cold air box is enough - no idea. > But pressurize or seal a cold air box on SUs at your own peril.... > > Best > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 19/01/2012, at 5:55 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > >> Adam - >> >> Any flow..... >> >> >> It's about the air pressure, not the air temperature. Basically it's >> a cheap supercharger when you are driving fast. >> >> Alan >> >> On 1/14/12, Adam Nolde wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> ...The box depth in front of each carb opening is only 1.75". I >>> can see potential >>> for not only vacuum creation and inefficient atmospheric >>> replacement, but >>> add >>> to that the inefficient dynamics of the flat and non radiused >>> orifices. >>> I've also discovered a fair amount of scavenging occurs between carb >>> orifices >>> in-spite of the wide and presumably ample open ended box. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2012.0.1901 / Virusdatabase: 2109/4752 - datum van uitgifte: 01/18/12 From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 19:43:20 2012 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:43:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] flywheel In-Reply-To: <006301ccd6ed$cdafde70$690f9b50$@ca> References: <006301ccd6ed$cdafde70$690f9b50$@ca> Message-ID: I have a pile of them in Toronto...but as you say shipping could be an issue. Michael S http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:03 PM, PG wrote: > Hi All, > > > > I'm in need of a flywheel that can be modified to set up an engine dyno. > The engine is a 2.9litre. > > > > The flywheel will ultimately by modified such that it's only use will be on > the dyno. > > > > Given that these things weigh more than a boat anchor...one close to > Vancouver, Canada would be beneficial. > > > > Thanks > > Paul From ynotink at msn.com Thu Jan 19 20:20:29 2012 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:20:29 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions Message-ID: I'm doing some detail work on my BN1 and need some information on some parts. A while back someone mentioned a source for the correct tach and speedo faces. The ones MOMA put on 10 years ago are reacting to the sunlight and turning purple where not shaded by the needle. Does anyone know of a source for the vinyl strip that goes between the gauge binnacle and the dash panel on the two piece dashboard? Mine as stiff and allows the two pieces to resonate. I got some good information about the prop rod bracket for the boot lid. However it would help if I could get some measurements to fabricate one. Thanks in advance for the help. Bill Lawrence BN1 554 From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jan 19 20:39:09 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:39:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow In-Reply-To: <886CDDBF-91C5-4D6C-9FA3-2E61114EC07E@gmail.com> References: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <886CDDBF-91C5-4D6C-9FA3-2E61114EC07E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F18E1DD.4000404@comcast.net> How did the old 'ramcharged' Dodges and Chryslers get away with it? Bob On 1/19/2012 3:56 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > Hi Alan, > No, you cant pressurise a cold air box. > Never set up your cold air box so it rams air in at higher than > atmospheric pressure straight into your carbs > If you do, the end result will be too much air, not enough fuel, a > lean mixture and a destroyed/ melted piston or 4. Probably at high rpm. > A cold air box is just that. A cold air box - the ability for cold > air to be sucked into a carb on a hot engine. A cold air box generally > is not sealed. It is open at one end (or somewhere) so it can't > pressurize and force air into the carbs at higher than atmosperic > pressure. > Think about an old supercharger for a minute. The carb - often an SU > on the sort of superchargers found on BMC cars - is on the outside, it > mixes the fuel and air which is then compressed and fed to the engine. > I.e it is a fuel air mix which is compressed, not compressed air alone. > I've seen the results from some homemade "cold air sealed ram boxes" - > and trust me, unless your dad owns a piston company, you don't want to > go there. > So the end issue is the 'flow' into the cold air box is pretty > irrelevent, it's just a way to get cooler than underbonnet air in > front of the carbs. > Whether the volumetric area of a 100m cold air box is enough - no idea. > But pressurize or seal a cold air box on SUs at your own peril.... > > Best > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From austin.healey at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 00:32:22 2012 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:32:22 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow In-Reply-To: <4F18E1DD.4000404@comcast.net> References: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <886CDDBF-91C5-4D6C-9FA3-2E61114EC07E@gmail.com> <4F18E1DD.4000404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4EB17B22-D3A7-4E14-830E-BB31969A12A9@gmail.com> They didn't run SU's with a single fixed needle to meter fuel.... Sent from my iPhone On 20/01/2012, at 2:39 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > How did the old 'ramcharged' Dodges and Chryslers get away with it? > > Bob > > > On 1/19/2012 3:56 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: >> Hi Alan, >> No, you cant pressurise a cold air box. >> Never set up your cold air box so it rams air in at higher than >> atmospheric pressure straight into your carbs >> If you do, the end result will be too much air, not enough fuel, a >> lean mixture and a destroyed/ melted piston or 4. Probably at high >> rpm. >> A cold air box is just that. A cold air box - the ability for cold >> air to be sucked into a carb on a hot engine. A cold air box >> generally >> is not sealed. It is open at one end (or somewhere) so it can't >> pressurize and force air into the carbs at higher than atmosperic >> pressure. >> Think about an old supercharger for a minute. The carb - often an SU >> on the sort of superchargers found on BMC cars - is on the outside, >> it >> mixes the fuel and air which is then compressed and fed to the >> engine. >> I.e it is a fuel air mix which is compressed, not compressed air >> alone. >> I've seen the results from some homemade "cold air sealed ram >> boxes" - >> and trust me, unless your dad owns a piston company, you don't want >> to >> go there. >> So the end issue is the 'flow' into the cold air box is pretty >> irrelevent, it's just a way to get cooler than underbonnet air in >> front of the carbs. >> Whether the volumetric area of a 100m cold air box is enough - no >> idea. >> But pressurize or seal a cold air box on SUs at your own peril.... >> >> Best >> Chris >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 20 06:20:18 2012 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (mark lapierre) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 05:20:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1327065618.57783.YahooMailClassic@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Interesting point on the gauge faces. In order to help others , did you contact Moma to see if they have rectified the problem in the past ten years? What did they say? Mark --- On Thu, 1/19/12, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, January 19, 2012, 10:20 PM I'm doing some detail work on my BN1 and need some information on some parts. A while back someone mentioned a source for the correct tach and speedo faces. The ones MOMA put on 10 years ago are reacting to the sunlight and turning purple where not shaded by the needle. Does anyone know of a source for the vinyl strip that goes between the gauge binnacle and the dash panel on the two piece dashboard? Mine as stiff and allows the two pieces to resonate. I got some good information about the prop rod bracket for the boot lid. However it would help if I could get some measurements to fabricate one. Thanks in advance for the help. Bill Lawrence BN1 554 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From bertvanbrande at yahoo.com Fri Jan 20 08:33:48 2012 From: bertvanbrande at yahoo.com (Bert Van Brande) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:33:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] it's alive! Part 1 Message-ID: <1327073628.89762.YahooMailClassic@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear listers, After 8.5 years my 56 BN2 came alive again yesterday. I bought the car with a rebuild engine (somewhere in the 80's) but a stalled restoration. After moving around 2 times here in California just after a relocation from Belgium I started a full nut and bolt, body, frame on rotisserie style restoration 6 years ago. Since I am doing not all but a lot of the work myself it's a slow but fun learning process. The amount of time I spend in books or workshop manuals is surpassed by sifting through the archives both here and over at the british car forum. I probably spend more time studying than executing. 2 weeks ago Charlie Hart helped me with pumping oil in the engine using an external oil pump. This helped us make sure the engine was lubricated again before startup after sitting again for 8 years. Last week we dropped the engine and transmission in. This week I further build up the engine. First getting the starter going, secondly cranking till I got oil pressure. The car needed to sit through lunch to get the oil pump fully primed. After getting a dribble out of the oil filter hole in the block and then from the pressure port, I got 55 lbs on the gauge during cranking after purging the oil line. Hooking up exhaust, carbs, controls, radiator. Yesterday checking ignition and setting static timing and confirming I got the little blue sparks. A last little checkup on ignition points and the car was ready for the big day... Yesterday morning after last checks we rolled the car outside, filled the radiator with regular water for now. Poured a couple of gallons of gas in the tank and checked the fuel delivery. Tightened the banjo bolts, All good. I pushed the button, cranked the engine... no ignition... pulled a plug, no spark. I knew the last thing I did was checking the points so I pulled the distributor cap.... we checked that the points were sparking, till we realized the rotor was gone! I had pulled it out when checking/gapping the points the day before and forgot to put it back. I know I'll have to hear this for the rest of my life (specially from my neighbor Yancey!) but we had a good laugh! A friday funny Healey comedy classic and a lesson learned that a small dollar part missing or broken can have you stranded. The car then fired up without issue and after initial tuning was run for 25 minutes at 2000 rpm for a renewed breaking in of the cam. The engine runs great. Charlie also confirmed that it runs smooth. Started up immediately on further tries. It just needs a bit more fine-tuning of mixture and syncing of carbs. Then a check of dynamic timing confirming the advance is working properly and timing is spot on. I'll also do a compression test later. We'll see how the cam holds up. I am just taking this as it comes and fix where/when needed. Everything was hooked up when I got the car with some evidence of having run. Let's hope it was properly broken in 25-30 years ago. -end of part 1- From bertvanbrande at yahoo.com Fri Jan 20 08:48:05 2012 From: bertvanbrande at yahoo.com (Bert Van Brande) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:48:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] It's alive. Part 2. Message-ID: <1327074485.64194.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Some things to fix: a small seep from the waterpump, I rebuild it myself with new sealed bearings, stainless sleeves and a new modern seal. I had originally planned to run the pump dry in the engine for 30 seconds for a pump seal break-in but we decided to go for a full on 20-30 minutes run for a renewed cam break-in which is more important. I should have looked for a solution to do a dry run-in of the pump before mounting using a drill or so. Or just cranking the engine after putting on the belt, with no plugs. I'll try to correct this by draining the water, I need to replace it with my coolant/distilled water/water wetter mixture anyway. And then do a short 30" dry seal break-in run with the engine. Anybody has experience with that after an initial wet run? I see one positive reference to this issue from somebody taking the pump out of the car, running it with a drill and re-installing. I also have just a drop of water from the rear freeze plug. This one is accessible through the transmission opening. On close inspection it's sitting at a bit of an angle, tapping it with a hammer/drift might correct this or I can just install a new one when I replace the water with coolant. Big thanks to Charlie and my supporting neighbors who came over, my almost neighbor Bill Hoyt who's restoring another BN2 a couple streets away from me. Also big thanks to Ray Juncal who gave me a cart to wheel the body around in the shop all these years, it will go to the next club member restoring a big Healey. And a huge thanks to Rich, Curt, all contributors on the list and our list manager Mark. So what a fantastic day, there's a new smell in the garage and I like it! Here's a photo, I am hiding behind Charlie who's in the Jeans shirt and blue cap. http://www.austin-healey.org/image/view/4993/_original in our soCal website club member's projects gallery: http://www.austin-healey.org/image/tid/2 cheers Bert 56 BN2 a bit more in progress. From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Jan 20 09:39:34 2012 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:39:34 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] It's alive. Part 2. In-Reply-To: <1327074485.64194.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1327074485.64194.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F1998C6.6010502@chello.nl> Gefeliciteerd Bert, Leave the water pump well alone. If it is only a running in problem of the carbon seal the seepage will stop after some time on its own. Do not run it dry. So no go out and enjoy. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs NL Op 20-1-2012 16:48, Bert Van Brande schreef: > Some things to fix: a small seep from the waterpump, I rebuild it myself with new sealed bearings, stainless sleeves and a new modern seal. I had originally planned to run the pump dry in the engine for 30 seconds for a pump seal break-in but we decided to go for a full on 20-30 minutes run for a renewed cam break-in which is more important. I should have looked for a solution to do a dry run-in of the pump before mounting using a drill or so. Or just cranking the engine after putting on the belt, with no plugs. > > I'll try to correct this by draining the water, I need to replace it with my coolant/distilled water/water wetter mixture anyway. And then do a short 30" dry seal break-in run with the engine. Anybody has experience with that after an initial wet run? I see one positive reference to this issue from somebody taking the pump out of the car, running it with a drill and re-installing. > > I also have just a drop of water from the rear freeze plug. This one is accessible through the transmission opening. On close inspection it's sitting at a bit of an angle, tapping it with a hammer/drift might correct this or I can just install a new one when I replace the water with coolant. > > Big thanks to Charlie and my supporting neighbors who came over, my almost neighbor Bill Hoyt who's restoring another BN2 a couple streets away from me. Also big thanks to Ray Juncal who gave me a cart to wheel the body around in the shop all these years, it will go to the next club member restoring a big Healey. And a huge thanks to Rich, Curt, all contributors on the list and our list manager Mark. > > So what a fantastic day, there's a new smell in the garage and I like it! > > Here's a photo, I am hiding behind Charlie who's in the Jeans shirt and blue cap. > > http://www.austin-healey.org/image/view/4993/_original > > in our soCal website club member's projects gallery: > > http://www.austin-healey.org/image/tid/2 > > cheers > > Bert > 56 BN2 a bit more in progress. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > > ----- > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 2012.0.1901 / Virusdatabase: 2109/4754 - datum van uitgifte: 01/19/12 From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jan 20 09:56:03 2012 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] It's Alive Part 1 Message-ID: <6e2f.497b3a9f.3c4af6a3@aol.com> What kind/weight of oil are you using on the break-in? Gary From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 10:58:47 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:58:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] restart after 2 years Message-ID: My car has sat with oil in it for 2 years. After a 3 month break, i will be getting back to the beast this weekend. If anyone in the Portland, OR area is on the list and has adjusted doors before, I could use some hands on help. I will poor some ZPD additive into the top of the engine, then crank it by hand, then with the coil unplugged, then kick it off. I have never spent the correct procedure before to restart the car after it sat for a while, so there could be damage, but the car always started right up before with great oil pressure. I have a bottle of Motor Silk (given as a gift) that claims to be high in ZPD. I have over 35K on the engine, so this might all be much ado about nothing. the engine was run in in 1977 with start up oil, first oil change at 500 miles and so forth, back in the day. Thanks for the info on Brad Penn Oil. there are two distributors in Portland. Oil starts religion wars, so I appreciate the comments on the topic. Just like in the Computer world, asking if LINUX, Mac or Windows is better will really get folks blood pressure up. I'm agnostic. i use all 3 platforms. Please do not post to list on computer platform choice, or restart the oil wars. Cheers -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From frogeye at porterscustom.com Fri Jan 20 11:39:06 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:39:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] restart after 2 years In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <419069ACE741424180D50C56E8288884@oscar> Add some StarTron to the fuel tank... frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:59 AM To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] restart after 2 years My car has sat with oil in it for 2 years. After a 3 month break, i will be getting back to the beast this weekend. If anyone in the Portland, OR area is on the list and has adjusted doors before, I could use some hands on help. I will poor some ZPD additive into the top of the engine, then crank it by hand, then with the coil unplugged, then kick it off. I have never spent the correct procedure before to restart the car after it sat for a while, so there could be damage, but the car always started right up before with great oil pressure. I have a bottle of Motor Silk (given as a gift) that claims to be high in ZPD. I have over 35K on the engine, so this might all be much ado about nothing. the engine was run in in 1977 with start up oil, first oil change at 500 miles and so forth, back in the day. Thanks for the info on Brad Penn Oil. there are two distributors in Portland. Oil starts religion wars, so I appreciate the comments on the topic. Just like in the Computer world, asking if LINUX, Mac or Windows is better will really get folks blood pressure up. I'm agnostic. i use all 3 platforms. Please do not post to list on computer platform choice, or restart the oil wars. Cheers -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Fri Jan 20 11:50:15 2012 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:50:15 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] it's alive! Part 1 In-Reply-To: <1327073628.89762.YahooMailClassic@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1327073628.89762.YahooMailClassic@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0C388567E77D47AF9445A201FD11DAF0@LeonardPCPC> Bert: Not to worry. You are not the only one to experience this. I watched a segment of the Boyd Coddington (hot rod builder, August 28, 1944 - February 27, 2008) TV show as he and his crew tried to start a new engine. They cranked and cranked and stood around scratching their heads until someone removed the distributor cap to discover - no rotor. If it can happen to the famous pros, it can happen to us lesser mortals. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bert Van Brande" To: "List Healey" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:33 AM Subject: [Healeys] it's alive! Part 1 .....I pushed the button, cranked the engine... no ignition... pulled a plug, no spark. I knew the last thing I did was checking the points so I pulled the distributor cap.... we checked that the points were sparking, till we realized the rotor was gone! I had pulled it out when checking/gapping the points the day before and forgot to put it back. I know I'll have to hear this for the rest of my life (specially from my neighbor Yancey!) but we had a good laugh! A friday funny Healey comedy classic and a lesson learned that a small dollar part missing or broken can have you stranded. > > > -end of part 1- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 20 13:01:59 2012 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:01:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] it's alive! Part 1, Bone Head list Message-ID: <001b01ccd7ae$5ecb39c0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Resent. I got Bounced the first time. Too wordy I guess. ( > Congrats. Its a great feeling when your time pays off. And coodoos to > you for admitting > the rotor snafu. It makes the rest of us feel like we're all in the same > boat cause we've all > had our own, " Bone Head" mishaps. Good Luck with the old/new toy. > > > " Bone Head" mishap list, I'll start. > > 1- I hit the starter solenoid while car was in gear and I was under the > hood of TR spitfire and > car proceeded over big toe under tire, OUCH. I was an LBC newbee > at the time in > my defense. ) > > - Anyone else want to add to the "Bone Head" list. > > A little Friday Humor if you will. > > Mark > I knew the last thing I did was checking the points so I >> pulled the distributor cap.... we checked that the points were sparking, >> till we realized the rotor was gone! I had pulled it out when >> checking/gapping the points the day before and forgot to put it back. I >> know I'll have to hear this for the rest of my life (specially from my >> neighbor Yancey!) but we had a good laugh! A friday funny Healey comedy >> classic and a lesson learned that a small dollar part missing or broken >> can have you stranded. From gmandas at yahoo.com Fri Jan 20 13:05:16 2012 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:05:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow In-Reply-To: <4EB17B22-D3A7-4E14-830E-BB31969A12A9@gmail.com> References: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <886CDDBF-91C5-4D6C-9FA3-2E61114EC07E@gmail.com> <4F18E1DD.4000404@comcast.net> <4EB17B22-D3A7-4E14-830E-BB31969A12A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78DD7270-D889-4B6A-9827-67E97048852F@yahoo.com> Yea, but wouldn't more air through the carb mean more vacuum in the dashpot resulting in raising the needle higher? At least that's what YouTube says. (;-) Greg 65BJ8 "You brought me here to fix this thing and people are key." Steve Jobs Sent from my iPhone. On Jan 20, 2012, at 2:32 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > They didn't run SU's with a single fixed needle to meter fuel.... > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 20/01/2012, at 2:39 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > >> How did the old 'ramcharged' Dodges and Chryslers get away with it? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On 1/19/2012 3:56 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: >>> Hi Alan, >>> No, you cant pressurise a cold air box. >>> Never set up your cold air box so it rams air in at higher than >>> atmospheric pressure straight into your carbs >>> If you do, the end result will be too much air, not enough fuel, a >>> lean mixture and a destroyed/ melted piston or 4. Probably at high rpm. >>> A cold air box is just that. A cold air box - the ability for cold >>> air to be sucked into a carb on a hot engine. A cold air box generally >>> is not sealed. It is open at one end (or somewhere) so it can't >>> pressurize and force air into the carbs at higher than atmosperic >>> pressure. >>> Think about an old supercharger for a minute. The carb - often an SU >>> on the sort of superchargers found on BMC cars - is on the outside, it >>> mixes the fuel and air which is then compressed and fed to the engine. >>> I.e it is a fuel air mix which is compressed, not compressed air alone. >>> I've seen the results from some homemade "cold air sealed ram boxes" - >>> and trust me, unless your dad owns a piston company, you don't want to >>> go there. >>> So the end issue is the 'flow' into the cold air box is pretty >>> irrelevent, it's just a way to get cooler than underbonnet air in >>> front of the carbs. >>> Whether the volumetric area of a 100m cold air box is enough - no idea. >>> But pressurize or seal a cold air box on SUs at your own peril.... >>> >>> Best >>> Chris >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ******************************************************************* >> Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net >> >> ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 13:51:14 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:51:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] it's alive! Part 1, Bone Head list In-Reply-To: <001b01ccd7ae$5ecb39c0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <001b01ccd7ae$5ecb39c0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: as a newbie owner I hit a rock and blew a hole in my oil pan. ran the engine dry. It had 2500 miles on it. Had to rebuild a new engine..... ever since my eyes are glued to the oil pressure gauge.... fortunately I worked part time for a parts store and part time for a Healey resto shop. Everyone felt bad for me so I rebuilt it practically for free. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > Resent. I got Bounced the first time. Too wordy I guess. ( > > > Congrats. Its a great feeling when your time pays off. And coodoos to >> you for admitting >> the rotor snafu. It makes the rest of us feel like we're all in the >> same boat cause we've all >> had our own, " Bone Head" mishaps. Good Luck with the old/new toy. >> >> >> " Bone Head" mishap list, I'll start. >> >> 1- I hit the starter solenoid while car was in gear and I was under the >> hood of TR spitfire and >> car proceeded over big toe under tire, OUCH. I was an LBC newbee >> at the time in >> my defense. ) >> >> - Anyone else want to add to the "Bone Head" list. >> >> A little Friday Humor if you will. >> >> Mark >> >> I knew the last thing I did was checking the points so I > >> pulled the distributor cap.... we checked that the points were sparking, >>> till we realized the rotor was gone! I had pulled it out when >>> checking/gapping the points the day before and forgot to put it back. I >>> know I'll have to hear this for the rest of my life (specially from my >>> neighbor Yancey!) but we had a good laugh! A friday funny Healey comedy >>> classic and a lesson learned that a small dollar part missing or broken can >>> have you stranded. >>> >> ______________________________**_________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/eyera3000@**gmail.com > > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 13:54:32 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:54:32 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] LBC content Message-ID: Once again I am trying to sell my Land Rover Series III I got an email from a person with the following one question: What is the least you will take? First contact, no other questions.. My reply, What's the most you will pay? What else could I say? -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From rjhco at att.net Fri Jan 20 14:01:22 2012 From: rjhco at att.net (Richard J. Hockert) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:01:22 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Vintage Tire Patch Kit Message-ID: <000901ccd7b6$aad95010$008bf030$@att.net> Just happen to run across the following eBay item: 140682972294 It's labeled as Camel Number 4, Rubber Repair Kit Might be interesting to someone on the list for inner tube repair???? no financial interest regards, Jim Hockert From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jan 20 16:21:48 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] It's alive. Part 2. In-Reply-To: <1327074485.64194.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1327074485.64194.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001ccd7ca$4cf4d0a0$e6de71e0$@net> Hello Bert, Congratulations are in order here. Well written and I was with you there all the way! Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bert Van Brande Sent: 2012-01-20 10:48 To: List Healey Subject: [Healeys] It's alive. Part 2. Some things to fix: a small seep from the waterpump, I rebuild it myself with new sealed bearings, stainless sleeves and a new modern seal. I had originally planned to run the pump dry in the engine for 30 seconds for a pump seal break-in but we decided to go for a full on 20-30 minutes run for a renewed cam break-in which is more important. I should have looked for a solution to do a dry run-in of the pump before mounting using a drill or so. Or just cranking the engine after putting on the belt, with no plugs. I'll try to correct this by draining the water, I need to replace it with my coolant/distilled water/water wetter mixture anyway. And then do a short 30" dry seal break-in run with the engine. Anybody has experience with that after an initial wet run? I see one positive reference to this issue from somebody taking the pump out of the car, running it with a drill and re-installing. I also have just a drop of water from the rear freeze plug. This one is accessible through the transmission opening. On close inspection it's sitting at a bit of an angle, tapping it with a hammer/drift might correct this or I can just install a new one when I replace the water with coolant. Big thanks to Charlie and my supporting neighbors who came over, my almost neighbor Bill Hoyt who's restoring another BN2 a couple streets away from me. Also big thanks to Ray Juncal who gave me a cart to wheel the body around in the shop all these years, it will go to the next club member restoring a big Healey. And a huge thanks to Rich, Curt, all contributors on the list and our list manager Mark. So what a fantastic day, there's a new smell in the garage and I like it! Here's a photo, I am hiding behind Charlie who's in the Jeans shirt and blue cap. http://www.austin-healey.org/image/view/4993/_original in our soCal website club member's projects gallery: http://www.austin-healey.org/image/tid/2 cheers Bert 56 BN2 a bit more in progress. $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jan 20 16:30:35 2012 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:30:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000101ccd7cb$82872690$879573b0$@net> Hi Bill, Can't help you with the MOMA problem but Nisonger may be able to help. They are who I use exclusively these days. The black strip between instrument pos and main fascia panel is simply the same stuff used between over rider and bumper. You need to notch out the inside edge for each of the welded tabs, and the joint is done at the top just to the outboard side where the cockpit rail hides it. The bracket for the prop rod on the alloy boot lid is a small steel box like affair with an elongated ear as the bracket. It is screwed to the left edge of the alloy skin with two screws and there is usually a sandwich of black butyl packing strip between the underside of the box section and the lid skin. Pictures attached. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: 2012-01-19 10:20 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions I'm doing some detail work on my BN1 and need some information on some parts. A while back someone mentioned a source for the correct tach and speedo faces. The ones MOMA put on 10 years ago are reacting to the sunlight and turning purple where not shaded by the needle. Does anyone know of a source for the vinyl strip that goes between the gauge binnacle and the dash panel on the two piece dashboard? Mine as stiff and allows the two pieces to resonate. I got some good information about the prop rod bracket for the boot lid. However it would help if I could get some measurements to fabricate one. Thanks in advance for the help. Bill Lawrence BN1 554 $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 023.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 017.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 019.JPG] From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Fri Jan 20 17:17:25 2012 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:17:25 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions In-Reply-To: <000101ccd7cb$82872690$879573b0$@net> References: <000101ccd7cb$82872690$879573b0$@net> Message-ID: G'day Bill Lionel Otto's here in Brisbane do good instrument faces (did my BN1 speedo and tacho) http://www.ottoinstruments.com.au/ John Robertson the proprietor is a Sprite owner Cheers Peter -----Original Message----- From: Rich Chrysler Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:30 AM To: 'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions Hi Bill, Can't help you with the MOMA problem but Nisonger may be able to help. They are who I use exclusively these days. The black strip between instrument pos and main fascia panel is simply the same stuff used between over rider and bumper. You need to notch out the inside edge for each of the welded tabs, and the joint is done at the top just to the outboard side where the cockpit rail hides it. The bracket for the prop rod on the alloy boot lid is a small steel box like affair with an elongated ear as the bracket. It is screwed to the left edge of the alloy skin with two screws and there is usually a sandwich of black butyl packing strip between the underside of the box section and the lid skin. Pictures attached. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: 2012-01-19 10:20 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions I'm doing some detail work on my BN1 and need some information on some parts. A while back someone mentioned a source for the correct tach and speedo faces. The ones MOMA put on 10 years ago are reacting to the sunlight and turning purple where not shaded by the needle. Does anyone know of a source for the vinyl strip that goes between the gauge binnacle and the dash panel on the two piece dashboard? Mine as stiff and allows the two pieces to resonate. I got some good information about the prop rod bracket for the boot lid. However it would help if I could get some measurements to fabricate one. Thanks in advance for the help. Bill Lawrence BN1 554 $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 023.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 017.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 019.JPG] Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/greylinn at ozemail.com.au From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Jan 20 18:22:22 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:22:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] it's alive! Part 1 In-Reply-To: <1327073628.89762.YahooMailClassic@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1327108942.91912.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Congrats, Bert. That's a huge milestone. Looks like a first-rate restoration. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 1/20/12, Bert Van Brande wrote: From: Bert Van Brande Subject: [Healeys] it's alive! Part 1 To: "List Healey" Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 10:33 AM Dear listers, After 8.5 years my 56 BN2 came alive again yesterday. I bought the car with a rebuild engine (somewhere in the 80's) but a stalled restoration. After moving around 2 times here in California just after a relocation from Belgium I started a full nut and bolt, body, frame on rotisserie style restoration 6 years ago. Since I am doing not all but a lot of the work myself it's a slow but fun learning process. The amount of time I spend in books or workshop manuals is surpassed by sifting through the archives both here and over at the british car forum. I probably spend more time studying than executing. From ynotink at msn.com Fri Jan 20 19:35:39 2012 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:35:39 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions In-Reply-To: <1327065618.57783.YahooMailClassic@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: , <1327065618.57783.YahooMailClassic@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No I haven't spoken to Margaret about it. I could just drive a few miles down the road and do that, but I know what the problem is. They use a photographic process to reproduce the gauge face, where if I remember correctly, the original was silk screened on a metal substrate. I think it was Tadek who was saying that he knew of a source of the properly colored and silk screened faces. I can't really complain about the work done, as it has lasted this long. However the photocopied face is reacting to the years of sunlight and is changing color. For that reason I'm looking for a more original solution. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 05:20:18 -0800 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions To: healeys at autox.team.net; ynotink at msn.com Interesting point on the gauge faces. In order to help others , did you contact Moma to see if they have rectified the problem in the past ten years? What did they say? Mark --- On Thu, 1/19/12, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, January 19, 2012, 10:20 PM I'm doing some detail work on my BN1 and need some information on some parts. A while back someone mentioned a source for the correct tach and speedo faces. The ones MOMA put on 10 years ago are reacting to the sunlight and turning purple where not shaded by the needle. Does anyone know of a source for the vinyl strip that goes between the gauge binnacle and the dash panel on the two piece dashboard? Mine as stiff and allows the two pieces to resonate. I got some good information about the prop rod bracket for the boot lid. However it would help if I could get some measurements to fabricate one. Thanks in advance for the help. Bill Lawrence BN1 554 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From ynotink at msn.com Fri Jan 20 20:08:38 2012 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 03:08:38 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions In-Reply-To: <000101ccd7cb$82872690$879573b0$@net> References: , <000101ccd7cb$82872690$879573b0$@net> Message-ID: Thanks Rich, and to all the others who have answered. I guess I'll cast around and see who uses silk screen for their faces. I thought there was another application for the strip material, but couldn't remember what it was. Maybe if I had bumpers... Anyway if it's used for something else maybe Martin McGregor has it. I guess I'llgive ohm a call... Thanks for the pictures I cancertainly use them for reference, but would you happen to have measurements so I can make an attempt at fabricating one. I'll probably end up making it backwards, so if anyone is converting to RHD, oh never mind... Thanks again. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 > From: richchrysler at quickclic.net > To: ynotink at msn.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:30:35 -0500 > > Hi Bill, Can't help you with the MOMA problem but Nisonger may be able to > help. They are who I use exclusively these days. > > The black strip between instrument pos and main fascia panel is simply the > same stuff used between over rider and bumper. You need to notch out the > inside edge for each of the welded tabs, and the joint is done at the top > just to the outboard side where the cockpit rail hides it. > > The bracket for the prop rod on the alloy boot lid is a small steel box like > affair with an elongated ear as the bracket. It is screwed to the left edge > of the alloy skin with two screws and there is usually a sandwich of black > butyl packing strip between the underside of the box section and the lid > skin. > > Pictures attached. > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Sent: 2012-01-19 10:20 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions > > I'm doing some detail work on my BN1 and need some information on some > parts. > > A while back someone mentioned a source for the correct tach and speedo > faces. > The ones MOMA put on 10 years ago are reacting to the sunlight and turning > purple where not shaded by the needle. > > Does anyone know of a source for the vinyl strip that goes between the gauge > binnacle and the dash panel on the two piece dashboard? Mine as stiff and > allows the two pieces to resonate. > > I got some good information about the prop rod bracket for the boot lid. > However it would help if I could get some measurements to fabricate one. > > Thanks in advance for the help. > > Bill Lawrence > BN1 554 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 20:24:36 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:24:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 1959 AUSTIN HEALEY PROJECT - $3995 frog eye Message-ID: http://portland.craigslist.org/yam/cto/2801342785.html NFI -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 20 20:46:21 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:46:21 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions In-Reply-To: References: <000101ccd7cb$82872690$879573b0$@net> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120120194030.0214cee0@pop.att.yahoo.com> William, West Valley Instruments "reprinted" my safety gauge last August. It is not in the car yet but it looks really good and I think it is painted but I don't recall if I asked him or not. 877-818-9402 and ask for Morris I believe. I think he used to work for MONA or was a partner. www.westvalleyinstruments.com Try: westvalleyinstruments at gmail.com Sorry it took me so long to look up the information. John '62 BT7 At 03:08 AM 1/21/2012 +0000, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: >Thanks Rich, and to all the others who have answered. I guess I'll cast around >and see who uses silk screen for their faces. From bertvanbrande at yahoo.com Fri Jan 20 22:24:03 2012 From: bertvanbrande at yahoo.com (Bert Van Brande) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:24:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20120120194030.0214cee0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1327123443.8487.YahooMailClassic@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Morris was the "Mo" in Moma before they split up. I would not be surprised if they still use the same techniques and processes but I could be wrong on this. Worth checking out and double-check if you like their work. I didn't like the clear coat on the faces, probably a good protection but it looked over-restored to me. Just my opinion. The swiss gauge restorers at austin-healey.ch seem to do a great job tampon- or padprinting the faces but they don't want to sell just the faces, they only do full restoration of the gauges, I asked. Lionel Otto company seems to be a good alternative, they sell you the faces outright. His site mentions silk screen. I talked to somebody on the phone and I understood they press in the circular depression after printing. This was probably what they did in the 50's as padprinting was't invented yet. Silkscreening is a 2d process while padprinting is used to transfer a 2d design on a 3d object. My father was a printer/graphics teacher so I learned a bit about this. I didn't want to lay out the Benjamins, Swiss francs or Aussie dollars for this so I carefully cleaned the gauge faces with a super soft brush and diluted simple-green. If anybody wants to try this out, don't let the simple green solution on there too long, carefully rinse and dry with a paper towel. The white paint of those 50+ year old numbers on the gauge are dried out and powdery. I then protected the face with a tiny bit of carauba wax. I rebuild the mechanisms and calibrated with a drill and a digital tachometer. I scanned the original wheel strips and touched them up in photoshop and printed my own odo/tripmeter wheel numbers on vinyl sticker material to replace the faded and burned away numbers. New glass and chrome et voila. A nice winter project indeed. Didn't I just say I was having fun? Bert --- On Sat, 1/21/12, john spaur wrote: > From: john spaur > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Winter projects, parts questions > To: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, January 21, 2012, 4:46 AM > William, > > West Valley Instruments "reprinted" my safety gauge last > August. It is not in the car yet but it looks really good > and I think it is painted but I don't recall if I asked him > or not. 877-818-9402 and ask for Morris I believe. I think > he used to work for MONA or was a partner. > > www.westvalleyinstruments.com > > Try: westvalleyinstruments at gmail.com From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri Jan 20 22:33:14 2012 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:33:14 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 100M cold air boxes and flow In-Reply-To: <78DD7270-D889-4B6A-9827-67E97048852F@yahoo.com> References: <1326473785.37473.YahooMailNeo@web110809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><886CDDBF-91C5-4D6C-9FA3-2E61114EC07E@gmail.com><4F18E1DD.4000404@comcast.net><4EB17B22-D3A7-4E14-830E-BB31969A12A9@gmail.com> <78DD7270-D889-4B6A-9827-67E97048852F@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Greg, I am not a scientist or engineer, but have a rudimentary or slightly more understanding of how the carbs work, you are right more air flow should raise the piston. Normally a higher piston means less cross section of the needle blocking the gas flow from the jet, so more gas more air more power.... However you said more vacuum, wouldn't the vacuum in fact be less, because it wouldn't be sucking from the engine, well it still would but it would be pushing air through as well, and maybe a push doesn't suck the gas up as well as regular manifold vacuum, therefore (someone who knows more may confirm this??? or tell me I am koo koo) a lean condition results instead of more power, along with the possibility of holed pistons and such nastiness as has been mentioned as the result of rm air to an SU by other listers. Greg Lemon From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 00:01:50 2012 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:01:50 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] NO LBC Content 300Sl Message-ID: Mercedes-Benz 300SLs have soared in value during the past 12 months, and the trend continued on Friday afternoon, as a 1955 Mercedes-Benz 300SL alloy Gullwing rocketed to a record $4.6m at Gooding & Company's Scottsdale Auction. Bidding on the rare car -- it is one of 29 alloy Gullwings -- started at $2m and quickly ratcheted up, achieving a final sale price of $4.2m. Factoring in the 10% buyer's premium, the car changed hands for $4.62m. ron rader From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Sat Jan 21 01:07:09 2012 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:07:09 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Thank you FBI! Message-ID: Gbday all you across the pond and thanks to your FBI. Robert Moore (Public Affairs Director) has just informed me (in pidgin English) that I won the UK lottery (value $900k) but a bank worker stole it, theybve recovered it and will hand it over if Ibll just give them my financial details. Thank you FBI (but please take some English lessons!) From jagxk120 at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 02:26:54 2012 From: jagxk120 at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:26:54 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Thank you FBI! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F1A84DE.4090108@gmail.com> Don't worry about the colonial "english". B Le 21/01/12 09:07, Peter & Veronica a icrit : > Gbday all you across the pond and thanks to your FBI. Robert Moore (Public > Affairs Director) has just informed me (in pidgin English) that I won the UK > lottery (value $900k) but a bank worker stole it, theybve recovered it and > will hand it over if Ibll just give them my financial details. > > Thank you FBI (but please take some English lessons!) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bcrist at club-internet.fr From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 09:21:27 2012 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:21:27 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] NO LBC Content 300Sl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The funny thing was they weren't particularly good driving cars for the day, poor brakes and mushy handling for a "super" car. Fast in a straight line... I guess post war Germany producing something that exclusive and fast was the gimmick. Same era Jags, Astons and Ferraris were better cars on the track. Looks cool though! On 1/21/12, F Ronald Rader wrote: > Mercedes-Benz 300SLs have soared in value during the past 12 months, > and the trend continued on Friday afternoon, as a 1955 Mercedes-Benz > 300SL alloy Gullwing rocketed to a record $4.6m at Gooding & > Company's Scottsdale Auction. > > Bidding on the rare car -- it is one of 29 alloy Gullwings -- started > at $2m and quickly ratcheted up, achieving a final sale price of > $4.2m. Factoring in the 10% buyer's premium, the car changed hands for > $4.62m. > > ron rader > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > -- Sent from my mobile device From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 10:35:32 2012 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:35:32 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Rear Leaf Spring Message-ID: Listers, I have a very nice original (may even be NOS) rear leaf spring. Six leaves and the bottom leaf has this part number and name stamped in it, so does anyone know its applicability? AHB9980 BERRY If it's for a Healey does anyone need it? Cheers, Curt From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jan 21 10:37:55 2012 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:37:55 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] NO LBC Content 300Sl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F1AF7F3.4060704@comcast.net> My folks' neighbor has one (don't think it's the all-aluminum one, though). What gets me is the cars look sleek from a distance, but up close they seem really bulky. Bob On 1/21/2012 8:21 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > The funny thing was they weren't particularly good driving cars for > the day, poor brakes and mushy handling for a "super" car. Fast in a > straight line... I guess post war Germany producing something that > exclusive and fast was the gimmick. Same era Jags, Astons and > Ferraris were better cars on the track. Looks cool though! > > On 1/21/12, F Ronald Rader wrote: >> Mercedes-Benz 300SLs have soared in value during the past 12 months, >> and the trend continued on Friday afternoon, as a 1955 Mercedes-Benz >> 300SL alloy Gullwing rocketed to a record $4.6m at Gooding& >> Company's Scottsdale Auction. >> >> Bidding on the rare car -- it is one of 29 alloy Gullwings -- started >> at $2m and quickly ratcheted up, achieving a final sale price of >> $4.2m. Factoring in the 10% buyer's premium, the car changed hands for >> $4.62m. >> >> ron rader >> >> -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 10:47:20 2012 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:47:20 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] great article on LBC guy Message-ID: http://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/article/20120114/LIFESTYLE/201140318 He's into restoring Jags, but he's one of us -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 21 11:48:32 2012 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:48:32 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Re: Winter projects, parts questions Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20120121104817.020243a8@pop.att.yahoo.com> >William, > >West Valley Instruments "reprinted" my safety gauge last August. It >is not in the car yet but it looks really good and I think it is >painted but I don't recall if I asked him or not. 877-818-9402 and >ask for Morris I believe. I think he used to work for MONA or was a partner. > >www.westvalleyinstruments.com > >Try: westvalleyinstruments at gmail.com > >Sorry it took me so long to look up the information. > >John >'62 BT7 > >At 03:08 AM 1/21/2012 +0000, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: >>Thanks Rich, and to all the others who have answered. I guess I'll >>cast around >>and see who uses silk screen for their faces. From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sat Jan 21 12:23:42 2012 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David Porter) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:23:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] new blog entry Message-ID: <2648F6AD287A4022AF0F78C3972E6C73@oscar> Here's a link to an old restoration, but new entry in my blog pages. I wasn't documenting much and probably didn't even have a decent digital camera yet.. http://porterbikes.com/ Agatha Austin Healey-- comments welcome.. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world From ahy3000 at comcast.net Sat Jan 21 13:38:07 2012 From: ahy3000 at comcast.net (ahy3000 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Reassembling HS6 carbs Message-ID: <531504569.19020.1327178287230.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I'm in the process of doing my first rebuild of my HS6 carbs. They were working okay but developed leaks at the flexible jet tubes. Starting reassembly with a rebuild kit but I've noticed that the jet assembly seems to hang up inside the jet bearing. Does one lubricate the jet assembly or does the throttle linkage pull it back down as necessary? TIA Burt Weiner '63 BJ7 HBJ7L/23582 ahy3000 at comcast.net