From tld6008 at mchsi.com Wed Jun 1 06:13:38 2011 From: tld6008 at mchsi.com (Tim Davis BN7) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 07:13:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] BT7 dash top In-Reply-To: <71C80997-4E74-43A5-B51A-E011D35E1E25@bornet.net> Message-ID: <306134843.4170721306930418785.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs14> Excellent photos Tim Davis BN7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Magnus Karlsson" To: "I Erbs" Cc: "Healey Lista" Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2011 12:02:14 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 dash top Here you can see what you4ve asked for: http://www.concourshealeys.com/work-in-progress/ Magnus Karlsson www.concourshealeys.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tld6008 at mchsi.com From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com Wed Jun 1 08:49:54 2011 From: Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:49:54 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] PCV valve In-Reply-To: <4de38b4a.85c0e60a.0f30.566b@mx.google.com> References: <4de38b4a.85c0e60a.0f30.566b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF633025A91B5@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> I decided to sort of base my request to the counter man on engine displacement. So in the 70's when I first did it, I said a small Chevy 6. Seemed to work ok. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Schauss Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 5:19 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] PCV valve I am thinking about adding a PCV valve to my BJ7 to replace the current hose which goes into the rear air filter. When I go to the local parts store, what should I ask for? (i.e. part number ...., or "A PCV valve for a xxxx (year make and model). Thanks, Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ken.freese at aerojet.com From s.hutchings at rogers.com Wed Jun 1 09:17:06 2011 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:17:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PCV valve Message-ID: I wonder why the PCV valve can't be routed through the air cleaner, that is, when it's already in place...I understand that Peter has different air cleaners. I ask this because the article on John's site moves the ventilation hose from the rear carb to the tapped hole in the block where the brake servo usually connects , and I'm not certain why. Stephen, BJ8 From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Jun 1 09:34:15 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:34:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PCV valve In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <013201cc2071$5e0ceb40$1a26c1c0$@verizon.net> Don't forget that I have a BN6 thus no brake servo. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Hutchings Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:17 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] PCV valve I wonder why the PCV valve can't be routed through the air cleaner, that is, when it's already in place...I understand that Peter has different air cleaners. I ask this because the article on John's site moves the ventilation hose from the rear carb to the tapped hole in the block where the brake servo usually connects , and I'm not certain why. Stephen, BJ8 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 1 09:48:19 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 08:48:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] PCV valve In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E6FC193-CF19-45BC-B411-9181A465E575@sbcglobal.net> When installing a PCV valve you must supply it with manifold vacuum. Also you must block off the vent hole in the oil filler cap along with a seal on the dipstick. We have a PCV valve that we have been supplying for many years along with the necessary fittings to install. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 1, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Stephen Hutchings wrote: > I wonder why the PCV valve can't be routed through the air cleaner, > that is, when it's already in place...I understand that Peter has > different air cleaners. > I ask this because the article on John's site moves the ventilation > hose from the rear carb to the tapped hole in the block where the > brake servo usually connects , and I'm not certain why. > > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Wed Jun 1 12:13:39 2011 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] rpm limiter Message-ID: <276254.11211.qm@web120502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> can anyone recommend a rev limiter for my 100/4 Negative ground TIA Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Jun 1 12:47:49 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 20:47:49 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] rpm limiter In-Reply-To: <276254.11211.qm@web120502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <276254.11211.qm@web120502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DE68955.8020500@chello.nl> Lumenition do adjustable rev. limiters which are easy to install. If you want a rev limiter with a fixed max. rpm Lucas did rotors in the distributors that cut out at a specific rpm. I use them on my car, max 7000rpm. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 13:25:32 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 12:25:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] [Spridgets] Bugeye battery pic please In-Reply-To: <0a0301cc208f$48388ea0$d8a9abe0$@net> References: <09e601cc2087$4389f450$ca9ddcf0$@net> <0a0301cc208f$48388ea0$d8a9abe0$@net> Message-ID: Heard, Moss catalog show 1 since it says part no. 407-618 is a *"J-BOLT & NUT SET" * with the key word being* SET*, which I interpret to mean two (2). I would call Moss and complain that you didn't get the SET you ordered. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Heard Saxon wrote: > Curt, > > Thanks. Thats perfect! 2 j-bolts it is > > > Heard > > > > *From:* Curt/Nancy Arndt [mailto:cnaarndt at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:00 PM > *To:* Heard Saxon > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye battery pic please > > > > Heard, > > Here are some photos. > > C > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Heard Saxon > wrote: > > Can someone please send me a pic of the battery clamp in action? I have > the > clamp and one J-bolt but I have no idea what holds the other side. It > looks > like it needs 2 J-bolts, but the catalogs say 1. > > Thanks, > Heard > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com From willig at wtnet.de Wed Jun 1 13:42:54 2011 From: willig at wtnet.de (T+ B Willig) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:42:54 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] O/D flange differences BN1-BN2 Message-ID: <001b01cc2094$19ff4470$4dfdcd50$@de> Hello, can someone explain to me the differences between a BN1 and BN2 overdrive drive flange. I have the two different flanges on my workbench and I don't know which one is which. Regards Thomas Willig From drmasucci at comcast.net Wed Jun 1 13:51:44 2011 From: drmasucci at comcast.net (David Masucci) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:51:44 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Intake Message-ID: <392006098-1306957904-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1523832627-@b14.c20.bise6.blackberry> Hi Listers, For reasons I can explain later, I am doing some computer analysis on the behavior of the BJ8 intake tract as it applies to the dynamics of the airflow. Specifically I'm looking at modeling the behavior as the pulses caused by valve closure send waves back into the manifold. I'm looking at how it behaves compared to modern "tuned" runners/plenum manifolds. To complete my model I need one more bit of information. Its clear that the front 3 runners and plenum section is a mirror image of the back 3. Does anyone know if the front and back of the plenum section (the rectangular box) is separated by a wall or septum? Or is the front and back wide open. Thanks, Dave BJ8 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From bluehealey at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 14:14:37 2011 From: bluehealey at gmail.com ('bluehealey') Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:14:37 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Intake In-Reply-To: <392006098-1306957904-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1523832627-@b14.c20.bise6.blackberry> References: <392006098-1306957904-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1523832627-@b14.c20.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: I can confirm there is a wall between runners 3 and 4 in the main runner or 'log'. It has hole of around 5/8" diameter drilled through it presumably to provide vacuum balancing. AlanB - iPhone message. On 1 Jun 2011, at 20:51, "David Masucci" wrote: > Hi Listers, > > For reasons I can explain later, I am doing some computer analysis on the behavior of the BJ8 intake tract as it applies to the dynamics of the airflow. Specifically I'm looking at modeling the behavior as the pulses caused by valve closure send waves back into the manifold. I'm looking at how it behaves compared to modern "tuned" runners/plenum manifolds. > > To complete my model I need one more bit of information. Its clear that the front 3 runners and plenum section is a mirror image of the back 3. Does anyone know if the front and back of the plenum section (the rectangular box) is separated by a wall or septum? Or is the front and back wide open. > > Thanks, > Dave > BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 15:04:51 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 05:04:51 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] O/D flange differences BN1-BN2 In-Reply-To: <001b01cc2094$19ff4470$4dfdcd50$@de> References: <001b01cc2094$19ff4470$4dfdcd50$@de> Message-ID: Do you mean the mount plate to the gearbox? On 6/2/11, T+ B Willig wrote: > Hello, > > > > can someone explain to me the differences between a BN1 and BN2 overdrive > drive flange. I have the two different flanges on my workbench and I don't > know which one is which. > > > > Regards > > > > > > Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From willig at wtnet.de Wed Jun 1 15:17:41 2011 From: willig at wtnet.de (T+ B Willig) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 23:17:41 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] O/D flange differences BN1-BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <001b01cc2094$19ff4470$4dfdcd50$@de> Message-ID: <002b01cc20a1$57c00fd0$07402f70$@de> I mean the coupling flange. The part were the front flange of the driveshaft is mated to. Thanks Thomas -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Juni 2011 23:05 An: T+ B Willig; healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] O/D flange differences BN1-BN2 Do you mean the mount plate to the gearbox? On 6/2/11, T+ B Willig wrote: > Hello, > > > > can someone explain to me the differences between a BN1 and BN2 overdrive > drive flange. I have the two different flanges on my workbench and I don't > know which one is which. > > > > Regards > > > > > > Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 15:21:16 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:21:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] O/D flange differences BN1-BN2 In-Reply-To: <002601cc209f$6b503810$41f0a830$@de> References: <001b01cc2094$19ff4470$4dfdcd50$@de> <002601cc209f$6b503810$41f0a830$@de> Message-ID: Tom, Obviously (from my previous post to you) there are three different part numbers for the 100. I don't know specifically, but I would think the differences may be with the length of the flange or the internal spline fittings. What differences do you see with the two on your workbench? Of course one of your flanges could also be for a six cylinder car for all you know? C On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, T+ B Willig wrote: > Yes, thats what I am talking about. > > > > Regards > > > > > > Thomas > > > > *Von:* Curt/Nancy Arndt [mailto:cnaarndt at gmail.com] > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 1. Juni 2011 22:41 > *An:* T+ B Willig > *Betreff:* Re: [Healeys] O/D flange differences BN1-BN2 > > > > Tom, > > Do you mean the "coupling flange?" Moss part 157 with no corresponding > part number or price. > > This is factory part no. > > BN1 C. 138031-155283 *17H 8521* > BN1 C. 155284-228046 *7H 5887* > BN2 C.E. 228047 and on *17H 5807* > > Curt > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt > wrote: > > Tom, > > Help me out here... what do you mean by "drive flange?" Looking at the > Moss catelog I don't see this part, and neither do I see it in my original > parts manual. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:42 PM, T+ B Willig wrote: > > Hello, > > > > can someone explain to me the differences between a BN1 and BN2 overdrive > drive flange. I have the two different flanges on my workbench and I don't > know which one is which. > > > > Regards > > > > > > Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From barrie at look.ca Wed Jun 1 16:52:33 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:52:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] I have to stay, Message-ID: Good lord and jehosephat ! I have had quite a few responses to my signing off the Healey list. I am not only gob smacked, but floored as well because they told me I must not leave the list. My god, even Ed !! So I am not going to leave and look forward to rich Healey correspondence. I think I am one of the few people who took an original untouched BJ8 to pieces and put it back exactly the same. I have the records somewhere and I still have the sole extant Lucas rubber strap (patented no less) in my safe. My many thanks and humble gratitude to those who convinced me to "stay". Regards, Barrie Robinson barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 MGB GT V8 in great nick Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm www.britcot.com www.AMFClub.com From Jwhlyadv at aol.com Wed Jun 1 17:21:28 2011 From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jwhlyadv at aol.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:21:28 EDT Subject: [Healeys] 1962 3000 BT7 Message-ID: We have a Bluegrass Club Member who is not on the list who has a very nice BT7 for sale. The Healey is a 1962 3000 BT7 four-seater. It is in very good condition. Regularly maintained. Runs very well. 40,000 original miles. Two owners-each for 25 years. Updated original car. Freshly painted in off white Dark blue interior. LOTS OF FUN. $29,000. Contact Royal Wetzel at _tyzelr at aol.com_ (mailto:tyzelr at aol.com) for information. I have pictures on my Facebook Page. Jim Werner Louisville, Kentucky From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 17:23:25 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 16:23:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] I have to stay, In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why didnt you replace worn stuff? Were you bored, so you took yout car apart and put it back exactly the same? Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 1, 2011 3:54 PM, "Barrie Robinson" wrote: Good lord and jehosephat ! I have had quite a few responses to my signing off the Healey list. I am not only gob smacked, but floored as well because they told me I must not leave the list. My god, even Ed !! So I am not going to leave and look forward to rich Healey correspondence. I think I am one of the few people who took an original untouched BJ8 to pieces and put it back exactly the same. I have the records somewhere and I still have the sole extant Lucas rubber strap (patented no less) in my safe. My many thanks and humble gratitude to those who convinced me to "stay". Regards, Barrie Robinson barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 MGB GT V8 in great nick Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm www.britcot.com www.AMFClub.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From ynotink at msn.com Wed Jun 1 17:30:33 2011 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 23:30:33 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] I have to stay, In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: Bored or drunk... Happens a lot. Bill Lawrence > Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 16:23:25 -0700 > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > To: barrie at look.ca > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] I have to stay, > > Why didnt you replace worn stuff? Were you bored, so you took yout car apart > and put it back exactly the same? > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > > On Jun 1, 2011 3:54 PM, "Barrie Robinson" wrote: > Good lord and jehosephat ! I have had quite a few responses to my signing > off the Healey list. I am not only gob smacked, but floored as well because > they told me I must not leave the list. My god, even Ed !! So I am not > going to leave and look forward to rich Healey correspondence. I think I > am one of the few people who took an original untouched BJ8 to pieces and > put it back exactly the same. I have the records somewhere and I still have > the sole extant Lucas rubber strap (patented no less) in my safe. > > My many thanks and humble gratitude to those who convinced me to "stay". > > Regards, > > Barrie Robinson > barrie at look.ca > 705-721-9060 > MGB GT V8 in great nick > Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration > www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm > www.britcot.com > www.AMFClub.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Jun 1 17:32:20 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:32:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] I have to stay, In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010901cc20b4$26db7360$74925a20$@net> Now, we just have to get you to buy one. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barrie Robinson Sent: 2011-06-01 6:53 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] I have to stay, Good lord and jehosephat ! I have had quite a few responses to my signing off the Healey list. I am not only gob smacked, but floored as well because they told me I must not leave the list. My god, even Ed !! So I am not going to leave and look forward to rich Healey correspondence. I think I am one of the few people who took an original untouched BJ8 to pieces and put it back exactly the same. I have the records somewhere and I still have the sole extant Lucas rubber strap (patented no less) in my safe. My many thanks and humble gratitude to those who convinced me to "stay". Regards, Barrie Robinson barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 MGB GT V8 in great nick Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm www.britcot.com www.AMFClub.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From ynotink at msn.com Wed Jun 1 17:32:26 2011 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 23:32:26 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] I have to stay, In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lucas rubber strap! What is it for, a battery cable? Bill Lawrence > Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:52:33 -0400 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > From: barrie at look.ca > Subject: [Healeys] I have to stay, > > Good lord and jehosephat ! I have had quite a few responses to my > signing off the Healey list. I am not only gob smacked, but floored > as well because they told me I must not leave the list. My god, even > Ed !! So I am not going to leave and look forward to rich Healey > correspondence. I think I am one of the few people who took an > original untouched BJ8 to pieces and put it back exactly the same. I > have the records somewhere and I still have the sole extant Lucas > rubber strap (patented no less) in my safe. > > My many thanks and humble gratitude to those who convinced me to "stay". > > Regards, > > Barrie Robinson > barrie at look.ca > 705-721-9060 > MGB GT V8 in great nick > Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration > www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm > www.britcot.com > www.AMFClub.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com From britishcars at shaw.ca Wed Jun 1 18:56:46 2011 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:56:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Intake In-Reply-To: <392006098-1306957904-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1523832627-@b14.c20.bise6.blackberry> References: <392006098-1306957904-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1523832627-@b14.c20.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <009001cc20bf$f260e320$d722a960$@ca> H Dave, That should be an interesting study...I would be interested in seeing the results..... In modern manifolds, the pulses cause the "ramming" effect which utilizes the inertia of the flowing fuel mixture to squeeze additional mixture into the chamber thereby effectively increasing the dynamic compression. I installed individual runners with Webbers and then flow benched them along with the head to ensure the maximum flow and ramming....of course the camshaft is selected to maximize the result also. I'm curious if the waves sent back into the manifold upon valve closure offset the benefits of the inertia created by the vacuum from the same cylinder. Good luck. Paul -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Masucci Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:52 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Intake Hi Listers, For reasons I can explain later, I am doing some computer analysis on the behavior of the BJ8 intake tract as it applies to the dynamics of the airflow. Specifically I'm looking at modeling the behavior as the pulses caused by valve closure send waves back into the manifold. I'm looking at how it behaves compared to modern "tuned" runners/plenum manifolds. To complete my model I need one more bit of information. Its clear that the front 3 runners and plenum section is a mirror image of the back 3. Does anyone know if the front and back of the plenum section (the rectangular box) is separated by a wall or septum? Or is the front and back wide open. Thanks, Dave BJ8 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca From drmasucci at comcast.net Wed Jun 1 19:07:52 2011 From: drmasucci at comcast.net (David Masucci) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:07:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Intake References: <392006098-1306957904-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1523832627-@b14.c20.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <8448B7DE396F432C8020EE192255C26B@lab092908> Thank you Alan. That helps a lot. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "'bluehealey'" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Intake I can confirm there is a wall between runners 3 and 4 in the main runner or 'log'. It has hole of around 5/8" diameter drilled through it presumably to provide vacuum balancing. AlanB - iPhone message. On 1 Jun 2011, at 20:51, "David Masucci" wrote: > Hi Listers, > > For reasons I can explain later, I am doing some computer analysis on the > behavior of the BJ8 intake tract as it applies to the dynamics of the > airflow. Specifically I'm looking at modeling the behavior as the pulses > caused by valve closure send waves back into the manifold. I'm looking at > how it behaves compared to modern "tuned" runners/plenum manifolds. > > To complete my model I need one more bit of information. Its clear that > the front 3 runners and plenum section is a mirror image of the back 3. > Does anyone know if the front and back of the plenum section (the > rectangular box) is separated by a wall or septum? Or is the front and > back wide open. > > Thanks, > Dave > BJ8 From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Thu Jun 2 01:42:37 2011 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:42:37 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] O/D flange differences BN1-BN2 In-Reply-To: <001b01cc2094$19ff4470$4dfdcd50$@de> References: <001b01cc2094$19ff4470$4dfdcd50$@de> Message-ID: <+WdpLK9t7z5NFwQB@jharper.demon.co.uk> Thomas The BN1 version is about 1/4" longer Regards > > >can someone explain to me the differences between a BN1 and BN2 overdrive >drive flange. I have the two different flanges on my workbench and I don't >know which one is which. > > > >Regards > > > > > >Thomas Willig >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah at jharper.demon.co.uk -- John Harper From barrie at look.ca Thu Jun 2 07:59:15 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 09:59:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] I have to stay, In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bill, It is a shy little rubber strap about 4 inches long. It went strapped that wire wrapped lead from engine to temp gauge in the dash to the heater hose. I think they were discarded rapidly when engines were serviced or repaired. A long time ago I sent it to Roger Moment who had duplicates made as he said it was a really rare bird. What is amazing is that it has a patent !!!!! At 07:32 PM 6/1/2011, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: >Lucas rubber strap! What is it for, a battery cable? > >Bill Lawrence > > > Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:52:33 -0400 > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > From: barrie at look.ca > > Subject: [Healeys] I have to stay, > > > > Good lord and jehosephat ! I have had quite a few responses to my > > signing off the Healey list. I am not only gob smacked, but floored > > as well because they told me I must not leave the list. My god, even > > Ed !! So I am not going to leave and look forward to rich Healey > > correspondence. I think I am one of the few people who took an > > original untouched BJ8 to pieces and put it back exactly the same. I > > have the records somewhere and I still have the sole extant Lucas > > rubber strap (patented no less) in my safe. > > > > My many thanks and humble gratitude to those who convinced me to "stay". > > > > Regards, > > > > Barrie Robinson > > barrie at look.ca > > 705-721-9060 > > MGB GT V8 in great nick > > Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration > > www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm > > www.britcot.com > > www.AMFClub.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From barrie at look.ca Thu Jun 2 07:40:32 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 09:40:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] I have to stay, In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Come on Ira! I may be disgustingly erudite and fearsomely handsome but I am not dumb. Of course I replaced "consumables" and worn bits - but interior went back in as it was in excellent condition. New dash as that looked as if it had been put in a toaster. Hood kept. Only one bolt sheared - all the rest just eased out - no rust !!! At 07:23 PM 6/1/2011, I Erbs wrote: >Why didnt you replace worn stuff? Were you bored, so you took yout >car apart and put it back exactly the same? > >Ira Erbs >IT Consultant >Portland, OR > >sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections >because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > >>On Jun 1, 2011 3:54 PM, "Barrie Robinson" >><barrie at look.ca> wrote: >>Good lord and jehosephat ! I have had quite a few responses to my >>signing off the Healey list. I am not only gob smacked, but >>floored as well because they told me I must not leave the list. My >>god, even Ed !! So I am not going to leave and look forward to >>rich Healey correspondence. I think I am one of the few people >>who took an original untouched BJ8 to pieces and put it back >>exactly the same. I have the records somewhere and I still have >>the sole extant Lucas rubber strap (patented no less) in my safe. >> >>My many thanks and humble gratitude to those who convinced me to "stay". >> >>Regards, >> >>Barrie Robinson >>barrie at look.ca >>705-721-9060 >>MGB GT V8 in great nick >>Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration >>www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >>www.britcot.com >>www.AMFClub.com >>_______________________________________________ >>Healeys at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > >Regards > >Barrie >barrie at look.ca >705-721-9060 From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 08:31:10 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 07:31:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] I have to stay, In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: sorry, I could not resist :) I wish my bolts came off easy :( dealing with the small ones holding the wire harness above the grill opening. X head bolt with small nut 1/4"? still trying to find a spanner that will fit, but I can't actually see the nut.... cheers, As Rich said, "time to buy a car" On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Barrie Robinson wrote: > > Come on Ira! I may be disgustingly erudite and fearsomely handsome but I > am not dumb. Of course I replaced "consumables" and worn bits - but > interior went back in as it was in excellent condition. New dash as that > looked as if it had been put in a toaster. Hood kept. Only one bolt sheared > - all the rest just eased out - no rust !!! > > > > At 07:23 PM 6/1/2011, I Erbs wrote: > > Why didnt you replace worn stuff? Were you bored, so you took yout car > apart and put it back exactly the same? > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > > On Jun 1, 2011 3:54 PM, "Barrie Robinson" wrote: > Good lord and jehosephat ! I have had quite a few responses to my signing > off the Healey list. I am not only gob smacked, but floored as well because > they told me I must not leave the list. My god, even Ed !! So I am not > going to leave and look forward to rich Healey correspondence. I think I > am one of the few people who took an original untouched BJ8 to pieces and > put it back exactly the same. I have the records somewhere and I still have > the sole extant Lucas rubber strap (patented no less) in my safe. > > My many thanks and humble gratitude to those who convinced me to "stay". > > Regards, > > Barrie Robinson > barrie at look.ca > 705-721-9060 > MGB GT V8 in great nick > Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration > www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm > www.britcot.com > www.AMFClub.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > > Regards > > Barrie > > barrie at look.ca > 705-721-9060 > > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From fredwescoe at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 08:43:33 2011 From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 10:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Stripped bolts Message-ID: Gang, Can anyone tell what size of the 2 bolts holding the clutch slave cylinder (63 BJ7) in place are? A friend, who lives 65 miles away, has asked me to come and help him replace the 2 bolts and rebuild the cylinder. I want to go prepared. Should I tap the holes to a larger size (what size) or should I do an insert and if so, what size? I don't think I need to be period correct here. This will save me jacking up my car and pulling a bolt. Thanks in advance. Fred From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 2 09:50:59 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:50:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Stripped bolts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DE7B163.8090706@comcast.net> On my BJ8 they are--like the shock bolts, bumper bracket bolts and others--3/8" fine (24TPI) SAE. IIRC, a 9/16" wrench or socket will fit them. I'd go with the inserts (same size--3/8" fine). If you tap oversize you'll probably have to drill (oversize) the holes in the slave cylinder. Not only will this somewhat weaken the parts but you'll eventually strip them out again anyway. 3/8" inserts are common, and the taps come with the kit, but the drill bit you'll need is an oddball (like a 25/64" or something, don't recall for sure). A 3/8" 24TPI insert kit will serve you well over time. Put red Locktite on the outside of the inserts. I always use a hardened flatwasher and blue Locktite to fasten aluminum/alloy parts--lockwashers dig into the Al and lose tension over time (they also gouge the metal pretty bad). Bob On 6/2/2011 7:43 AM, Fred Wescoe wrote: > Gang, > > Can anyone tell what size of the 2 bolts holding the clutch slave cylinder > (63 BJ7) in place are? A friend, who lives 65 miles away, has asked me to > come and help him replace the 2 bolts and rebuild the cylinder. I want to > go prepared. > > Should I tap the holes to a larger size (what size) or should I do an insert > and if so, what size? I don't think I need to be period correct here. > > This will save me jacking up my car and pulling a bolt. > > Thanks in advance. > > Fred > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 2 10:32:07 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:32:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Stripped bolts In-Reply-To: <4DE7B163.8090706@comcast.net> References: <4DE7B163.8090706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <66CF362C-1F4E-4AB1-B50E-915131E46DFC@sbcglobal.net> Plan on pulling the transmission out to put a heli coil in the bell housing. The original bolts for the slave cylinder are 3/8 x 24 . Be careful of the length of the bolts if you are to long they will hit the flywheel. The reason you may have to remove the transmission is that there is not enough space between the bellhousing and the body panels and inner frame rail. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . > > On 6/2/2011 7:43 AM, Fred Wescoe wrote: >> Gang, >> >> Can anyone tell what size of the 2 bolts holding the clutch slave >> cylinder >> (63 BJ7) in place are? A friend, who lives 65 miles away, has >> asked me to >> come and help him replace the 2 bolts and rebuild the cylinder. I >> want to >> go prepared. >> >> Should I tap the holes to a larger size (what size) or should I do >> an insert >> and if so, what size? I don't think I need to be period correct >> here. >> >> This will save me jacking up my car and pulling a bolt. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Fred >> > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From willig at wtnet.de Thu Jun 2 10:43:31 2011 From: willig at wtnet.de (T+ B Willig) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:43:31 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] O/D flange differences BN1-BN2 In-Reply-To: <+WdpLK9t7z5NFwQB@jharper.demon.co.uk> References: <001b01cc2094$19ff4470$4dfdcd50$@de> <+WdpLK9t7z5NFwQB@jharper.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <002b01cc2144$34fc3b60$9ef4b220$@de> Hi John, thanks for enlightening me. Best regards Thomas -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: John Harper [mailto:ah at jharper.demon.co.uk] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Juni 2011 09:43 An: T+ B Willig Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] O/D flange differences BN1-BN2 Thomas The BN1 version is about 1/4" longer Regards > > >can someone explain to me the differences between a BN1 and BN2 overdrive >drive flange. I have the two different flanges on my workbench and I don't >know which one is which. > > > >Regards > > > > > >Thomas Willig >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah at jharper.demon.co.uk -- John Harper From Editorgary at aol.com Thu Jun 2 10:55:51 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:55:51 EDT Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap Message-ID: <375f7.84e68ba.3b191a97@aol.com> In a message dated 6/2/11 9:46:49 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > It is a shy little rubber strap about 4 inches long. It went > strapped that wire wrapped lead from engine to temp gauge in the dash > to the heater hose. I think they were discarded rapidly when engines > were serviced or repaired. A long time ago I sent it to Roger Moment > who had duplicates made as he said it was a really rare bird. What > is amazing is that it has a patent !!!!! > When I first saw that strap, I thought it looked familiar from my childhood spending my days in the back of my dad's bicycle shop, and later Norman Nock confirmed it, not from his past car experience but from having been a cyclist all his life. We both remembered first seeing that strap on Humber and Raleigh bicycles, holding the rear handbrake cable to the frame of the bicycle. I'm betting that when they first encountered the problem of having the temp sensor cable fouling whatever it might foul in the engine compartment, Roger Menadue went over to his bicycle and pulled the strap off of it, determined that it would work, and then they told BMC to order a couple of thousand from whomever supplied them to Humber and Raleigh. Gary From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 11:32:42 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:32:42 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction Message-ID: Here is another one of those ads making a lot of claims, and connections to DMH etc, no doubt some of them true judging by the history and names mentioned. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C229969 I can't think of what class of racing that car could compete in,in Europe. Derek From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 12:27:56 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:27:56 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 57 FAC was a Sebring Healey and is now owned in Australia isn't it. What does this mean when it says was once registered 57 FAC? Weren't all the Ruddspeed manifolds triple carb? My copy of Bill Emerson's book is packed away and I can't remember what I says about this car Whatever the story it's a shame the car has ended up in this freakish state. To me the car has been de-valued. Derek On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Derek Job wrote: > Here is another one of those ads making a lot of claims, and connections to > DMH etc, no doubt some of them true judging by the history and names > mentioned. > > http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C229969 > > I can't think of what class of racing that car could compete in,in Europe. > > Derek From jstmorris at yahoo.com Thu Jun 2 13:08:25 2011 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Re: Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction Message-ID: <707920.26409.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Derek; First, congratualation on your recent venture in your 100-6. It sounds like you are having a great time. Regarding the Healey up for auction, I do believe the writeup about it is valid. I have attached a number of articles about the car 'in-the-day'.[Yes, I know they will be stripped from the list. If interested, drop me a note.] In 2005 I exchanged a number of emails with Bill Bolton about the car and sent him considerable information about it. In the auction writeup there is one mistake I noticed and that is the spelling of Dennis Profit; should be Prophet. Dennis has been a long time vendor at the Ancaster British Car Flea Market and we had a quick talk at this years event. Sometime during the summer I hope to get together with him and get some more stories of the racing 50's & 60's. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Derek Job wrote: From: Derek Job Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction To: "Forum" Received: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 1:32 PM Here is another one of those ads making a lot of claims, and connections to DMH etc, no doubt some of them true judging by the history and names mentioned. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C229969 I can't think of what class of racing that car could compete in,in Europe. Derek [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of CT&T] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a name of CT&T] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a name of CT&T] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Competition] From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Thu Jun 2 13:17:33 2011 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:17:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BEWARE of Phil Wilker Message-ID: <000301cc2159$ba0c0e60$2e242b20$@qwest.net> On May 3 2011 I sent this post: I have some distributor housings that I plan to recycle. Free for shipping if anyone needs a particular build date. 1 DM6 40532 1/56 2 DM6 40581 8/57 and 6/58 Herb Miller On May 3, 2011 I got response from philip wilker and Dave Porter ( a common contributor to this list) Dave wanted all three and Philip wanted the 1/56. To be fare I gave Philip the 1/56 and the other two to Dave. I got shipping costs and both sent me their shipping addresses. I sent the items by USPS. May 5 email from Dave "check in the mail" Check arrived 2 days later. Thanks Dave. You guessed it no check from Philip wilker. May 23, 2011 no check from Philip wilker. I sent him an email. No response. Sent another email on the 24th. Response was will send a check. June 2 no check. This is for $9.00 shipping. I was giving these away for FREE. I have been fooling around with LBCs for 47 years, and without exception the people I have met and have dealt with have been of the highest moral and ethical character. Honest people. Well I guess there are exceptions to every rule. I was giving the parts away, I am not in this hobby for the money, just the fun, but like most I do not like to be stiffed. Beware of this guy: Hi Herb, Sent the ship to is Phil Wilker Innovative Solutions and Products Inc. 295 NW Commons Loop, Suite 115, Lake City FL 32055. The money will go out tomorrow in the mail! Thanks, Phil 386-205-8108 cell His email on May 5, 2011 Thanks for listening Herb Miller 1960 AN5 1962 BT7 1967 BJ8 From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Thu Jun 2 15:12:06 2011 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:12:06 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61F3E452806D4C259295422C5973EF17@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Very interesting. Austin-Healey 3000 registered 57 FAC was the spare car for Sebring 1963 and yes it is currently in Australia. In fact it's been here for quite a few years. I drove it at the Phillip Island circuit just last March and had a great time. Again let the buyer beware. I would be interested in seeing the period articles that Scott Morris refers to. The car in the ad is featured at p142/143 of Bill Emerson's book where there is no reference to it being 57 FAC. Incidentally the Sebring cars from 1963 were all right hand drive. Plus there were BJ7s, not BN7 Mk1s. 57 FAC was subsequently sold to a Canadian BMC dealer and won the Canadian Racing Drivers Association class championship. Here I would say is the mix up. I am using 57 FAC as the centrepiece for a major article I am preparing for Vintage Racecar magazine on six-cylinder Austin-Healeys at Sebring. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Derek Job Sent: Friday, 3 June 2011 3:33 AM To: Forum Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction Here is another one of those ads making a lot of claims, and connections to DMH etc, no doubt some of them true judging by the history and names mentioned. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C229969 I can't think of what class of racing that car could compete in,in Europe. Derek _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 2 15:13:59 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:13:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Interesting that this car claims to be 57FAC when the actual car is Blue over White and as of last November was in Austrailia http://healeyvic.com.au/doc/Nov_2010_mag.pdf David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Derek Job wrote: > Here is another one of those ads making a lot of claims, and > connections to > DMH etc, no doubt some of them true judging by the history and names > mentioned. > > http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C229969 > > I can't think of what class of racing that car could compete in,in > Europe. > > Derek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From deemi at juno.com Thu Jun 2 15:42:07 2011 From: deemi at juno.com (deemi at juno.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:42:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] RAC healeys Message-ID: <20110602.144207.989.1249377@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com> There is a video of one of these at sebring in 1963 that is mixed in among the Morgan Super sports and the triumph tr4s you see it pull in and they open the hood, also on straightaways with comments from the helicopter in the air very well done movie about half hr long. its called "triumph at Sebring" and if you can find a copy, its worth getting last time i saw someone sold a dvd out of England Bob Bowie in Maine ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4de803b3c986228a312st02vuc From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Jun 2 16:10:19 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:10:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006501cc2171$dc13fbe0$943bf3a0$@rr.com> Didn't the Works swap registration numbers from one car to another when it was in their interests to do so? If so, it's easy to see how identifying a car by its license plate number and not its original manufacturer's number can lead to conflicts in identification. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 5:14 PM To: Derek Job Cc: Forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction Interesting that this car claims to be 57FAC when the actual car is Blue over White and as of last November was in Austrailia From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Thu Jun 2 16:22:52 2011 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:22:52 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: <006501cc2171$dc13fbe0$943bf3a0$@rr.com> References: <006501cc2171$dc13fbe0$943bf3a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <7BBE5BBFAFC746159125D35C9F65E5EA@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Yes they did, especially during the 1950s. The registration on my car NWD 977 was used on at least 3 cars. The 3000s in question are two different, but genuine cars. Plus the one advertised is a BN7 and 57 FAC is a BJ7. Very different. Hoo Roo Patrick -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys Sent: Friday, 3 June 2011 8:10 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction Didn't the Works swap registration numbers from one car to another when it was in their interests to do so? If so, it's easy to see how identifying a car by its license plate number and not its original manufacturer's number can lead to conflicts in identification. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 5:14 PM To: Derek Job Cc: Forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction Interesting that this car claims to be 57FAC when the actual car is Blue over White and as of last November was in Austrailia _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jun 2 16:46:05 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:46:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: <61F3E452806D4C259295422C5973EF17@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <61F3E452806D4C259295422C5973EF17@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <4DE812AD.8070904@justbrits.com> << Plus there were BJ7s, not BN7 Mk1s. >> AND << ...57FAC when the actual car is Blue over White... >> Didn't Phil Coombs own it "over here", have restored in WI, then even compete with it a couple times, take it back to "Merry Ole" and sell for something like 1/4 mil ? ! ? ! ? He and another chap had 33 & 106 at Conclave '88, IIRC at same time ! Even seems to me IRC a pic "over here" in late '80s of a pic in either Healey Marque or Healey Mag. of 56 & 57 together ??? Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jun 2 17:01:31 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 18:01:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BEWARE of Phil Wilker In-Reply-To: <000301cc2159$ba0c0e60$2e242b20$@qwest.net> References: <000301cc2159$ba0c0e60$2e242b20$@qwest.net> Message-ID: <4DE8164B.10602@justbrits.com> << May 23, 2011 no check from Philip wilker. >> You wouldn't have Mr. Wilker's Home Street Number WITH City, State & Zip Code Address, Home Telephone Number and Cell Phone Number near to hand that you could "share" with us, would you Herb ??? Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From warthodson at aol.com Thu Jun 2 17:02:03 2011 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:02:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: <61F3E452806D4C259295422C5973EF17@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <61F3E452806D4C259295422C5973EF17@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <8CDEF903872A311-1D58-16C80@webmail-d169.sysops.aol.com> Here is an interesting contradiction: 57FAC is widely reported to have won the 1964 "Sundown grand Prix" in torrential rain at Mosport. However, the photos I received from Al Pease (co-driver with Don Kindree) of the Healey in this race clearly show a roadster car, not a convertible BJ7. It would be interesting to see period photos of the BN7L5629 to document that it was raced with the smooth bonnet (no scoop) & no fender vents. Also, some photos of it being driven by Grant Clark. I have a photo (undated) of Grant Clark driving a blue two seat roadster with a roll bar mounted in the center of the cockpit as shown on pages 142 & 143 in Bill Emerson's book. It also had fender vents, oil cooler openings & the scoop on the bonnet. And as an aside, according to Al Pease, Grant Clark (BMC dealer in Canada) was arrested for stealing cars from the Montreal airport & selling them. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn To: 'Derek Job' ; 'Forum' Sent: Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:12 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction G'day Very interesting. Austin-Healey 3000 registered 57 FAC was the spare car for ebring 1963 and yes it is currently in Australia. In fact it's been here or quite a few years. I drove it at the Phillip Island circuit just last March and had a great ime. Again let the buyer beware. I would be interested in seeing the period rticles that Scott Morris refers to. The car in the ad is featured at 142/143 of Bill Emerson's book where there is no reference to it being 57 AC. Incidentally the Sebring cars from 1963 were all right hand drive. Plus here were BJ7s, not BN7 Mk1s. 57 FAC was subsequently sold to a Canadian BMC dealer and won the Canadian acing Drivers Association class championship. Here I would say is the mix p. I am using 57 FAC as the centrepiece for a major article I am preparing for intage Racecar magazine on six-cylinder Austin-Healeys at Sebring. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn ydney, Australia From warthodson at aol.com Thu Jun 2 17:08:55 2011 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:08:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: <006501cc2171$dc13fbe0$943bf3a0$@rr.com> References: <006501cc2171$dc13fbe0$943bf3a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <8CDEF912E7E0A4E-1D58-16ED7@webmail-d169.sysops.aol.com> Steve, I agree, but the seller is claiming that BN7L5629 was originally registered as 57FAC. The seller should provide some documentation supporting this attribution. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: BJ8 Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:10 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction Didn't the Works swap registration numbers from one car to another when it as in their interests to do so? f so, it's easy to see how identifying a car by its license plate number nd not its original manufacturer's number can lead to conflicts in dentification. Steve Byers BJ8L/36666 J8 Registry avelock, NC USA From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Thu Jun 2 17:34:49 2011 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:34:49 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BEWARE of Phil Wilker In-Reply-To: <4DE8164B.10602@justbrits.com> References: <000301cc2159$ba0c0e60$2e242b20$@qwest.net> <4DE8164B.10602@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <001801cc217d$aeabe030$0c03a090$@qwest.net> Ed Phil Wilker Innovative Solutions and Products Inc. 295 NW Commons Loop, Suite 115, Lake City FL 32055. The money will go out tomorrow in the mail! Thanks, Phil 386-205-8108 cell Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shop at " Just Brits " Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:02 PM To: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] BEWARE of Phil Wilker << May 23, 2011 no check from Philip wilker. >> You wouldn't have Mr. Wilker's Home Street Number WITH City, State & Zip Code Address, Home Telephone Number and Cell Phone Number near to hand that you could "share" with us, would you Herb ??? Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/hgmiller3 at qwest.net From warthodson at aol.com Thu Jun 2 17:47:28 2011 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:47:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving Message-ID: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> Many of our local club members are planning on driving their Healeys to Conclave this year. They want to know the best way to adjust their cars for the higher altitude? We plan on driving thru 10 passes over 10,000 feet elevation on our way to Colorado Springs. Should they install lean needles or just lean out their carbs by adjusting the main jet when they get there? Just in case someone encounters difficulty, it is best that I pass on your suggestions, that way I have plausible denial ability. Gary Hodson From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 17:59:28 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:59:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: <4DE812AD.8070904@justbrits.com> References: <61F3E452806D4C259295422C5973EF17@PatrickQuinnPC> <4DE812AD.8070904@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Phil used to race a red car with white hard top in the 70's.Don't remember the plate #. We used to work on it at Austin Healey Enterprises On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << Plus there were BJ7s, not BN7 Mk1s. >> > AND > << ...57FAC when the actual car is Blue over White... >> > > Didn't Phil Coombs own it "over here", have restored in WI, > then even compete with it a couple times, take it back to > "Merry Ole" and sell for something like 1/4 mil ? ! ? ! ? > He and another chap had 33 & 106 at Conclave '88, IIRC > at same time ! > > Even seems to me IRC a pic "over here" in late '80s of a pic > in either Healey Marque or Healey Mag. of 56 & 57 together > ??? > > Ed > 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com > 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com > Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! > 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: > "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! > http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jun 2 18:20:46 2011 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:20:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: References: <61F3E452806D4C259295422C5973EF17@PatrickQuinnPC> <4DE812AD.8070904@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <000601cc2184$174b9210$45e2b630$@com> Yes, Phil raced the #105 car, and Dan Pendergraft raced the #106 car. Neither of those cars were "Works" cars, or "BMC" race cars, but #106 was made up from many Works spares. But Phil also owned both 56FAC and 57FAC which were Roger Menadue prepared, "Works" race cars. (Not to be confused with BMC rallye cars). 56FAC had race history at Sebring, 57FAC was the back up car, and did not race. 57FAC did end up in Canada for a period of time, but is not the car for sale in the advertisement. They were very light, and very fast. Phil did vintage race 56FAC for a short while, but then built the #105 car because of 56FAC's value. Fourintune restored both 56FAC (a light restoration) and 57FAC full restoration. Phil gave me the roll bar from 57FAC that was in it from its time in Canada, as well as the fuel cell. 57FAC was sold at auction for what was then the highest amount ever paid for a Healey. WST -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:59 PM To: Shop at Just Brits Cc: Forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction Phil used to race a red car with white hard top in the 70's.Don't remember the plate #. We used to work on it at Austin Healey Enterprises On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << Plus there were BJ7s, not BN7 Mk1s. >> > AND > << ...57FAC when the actual car is Blue over White... >> > > Didn't Phil Coombs own it "over here", have restored in WI, > then even compete with it a couple times, take it back to > "Merry Ole" and sell for something like 1/4 mil ? ! ? ! ? > He and another chap had 33 & 106 at Conclave '88, IIRC > at same time ! > > Even seems to me IRC a pic "over here" in late '80s of a pic > in either Healey Marque or Healey Mag. of 56 & 57 together > ??? From healey100m at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 18:38:17 2011 From: healey100m at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:38:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4CF2E5DC-7647-4BA6-9C7C-C9C7E8410627@gmail.com> Great question! I'll be driving also and the tour afterwards so I've been wondering the something. Please share if you get good suggestions off list. Randy On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:47 PM, warthodson at aol.com wrote: > Many of our local club members are planning on driving their Healeys to > Conclave this year. They want to know the best way to adjust their cars for > the higher altitude? We plan on driving thru 10 passes over 10,000 feet > elevation on our way to Colorado Springs. Should they install lean needles or > just lean out their carbs by adjusting the main jet when they get there? Just > in case someone encounters difficulty, it is best that I pass on your > suggestions, that way I have plausible denial ability. > Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at gmail.com From frogeye at porterscustom.com Thu Jun 2 18:49:14 2011 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:49:14 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <4CF2E5DC-7647-4BA6-9C7C-C9C7E8410627@gmail.com> References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> <4CF2E5DC-7647-4BA6-9C7C-C9C7E8410627@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3E8B94FD13D54E47A906D1BD040BA4F0@oscar> I run mine up to 10,600 ASL here on std needles. OTOH, 14,000 is another animal. I'd probably lean it out a flat or two for the major passes, but the SU's will somewhat compensate naturally due to less atmospheric pressure at altitude. Better to take some altitude sickness pills for yourself. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randy Hicks Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:38 PM To: warthodson at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] high altitude driving Great question! I'll be driving also and the tour afterwards so I've been wondering the something. Please share if you get good suggestions off list. Randy From frogeye at porterscustom.com Thu Jun 2 18:55:21 2011 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:55:21 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving, & stuff In-Reply-To: <4CF2E5DC-7647-4BA6-9C7C-C9C7E8410627@gmail.com> References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> <4CF2E5DC-7647-4BA6-9C7C-C9C7E8410627@gmail.com> Message-ID: Since someone will have to know... Acetazolamide is name of the altitude sickness preventative.... ~250mg/day frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 18:58:33 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:58:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <4CF2E5DC-7647-4BA6-9C7C-C9C7E8410627@gmail.com> References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> <4CF2E5DC-7647-4BA6-9C7C-C9C7E8410627@gmail.com> Message-ID: If you drive fast enough, you might get through it before your car figures it out. Actually, you most likely need to do much, unless you move to alt. For a long time. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 2, 2011 5:42 PM, "Randy Hicks" wrote: > Great question! I'll be driving also and the tour afterwards so I've been > wondering the something. > > Please share if you get good suggestions off list. > > Randy > > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:47 PM, warthodson at aol.com wrote: > >> Many of our local club members are planning on driving their Healeys to >> Conclave this year. They want to know the best way to adjust their cars for >> the higher altitude? We plan on driving thru 10 passes over 10,000 feet >> elevation on our way to Colorado Springs. Should they install lean needles > or >> just lean out their carbs by adjusting the main jet when they get there? > Just >> in case someone encounters difficulty, it is best that I pass on your >> suggestions, that way I have plausible denial ability. >> Gary Hodson >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:00:53 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:00:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: <000601cc2184$174b9210$45e2b630$@com> References: <61F3E452806D4C259295422C5973EF17@PatrickQuinnPC> <4DE812AD.8070904@justbrits.com> <000601cc2184$174b9210$45e2b630$@com> Message-ID: Thanks. I drove 105 around some industrial areas around the shop. Very fun Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 2, 2011 5:20 PM, "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Yes, Phil raced the #105 car, and Dan Pendergraft raced the #106 car. > Neither of those cars were "Works" cars, or "BMC" race cars, but #106 was > made up from many Works spares. > > But Phil also owned both 56FAC and 57FAC which were Roger Menadue prepared, > "Works" race cars. (Not to be confused with BMC rallye cars). 56FAC had race > history at Sebring, 57FAC was the back up car, and did not race. 57FAC did > end up in Canada for a period of time, but is not the car for sale in the > advertisement. They were very light, and very fast. > > Phil did vintage race 56FAC for a short while, but then built the #105 car > because of 56FAC's value. Fourintune restored both 56FAC (a light > restoration) and 57FAC full restoration. Phil gave me the roll bar from > 57FAC that was in it from its time in Canada, as well as the fuel cell. > 57FAC was sold at auction for what was then the highest amount ever paid for > a Healey. > > WST > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:59 PM > To: Shop at Just Brits > Cc: Forum > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction > > Phil used to race a red car with white hard top in the > 70's.Don't remember the plate #. We used to work on it at Austin > Healey Enterprises > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " > wrote: > >> << Plus there were BJ7s, not BN7 Mk1s. >> >> AND >> << ...57FAC when the actual car is Blue over White... >> >> >> Didn't Phil Coombs own it "over here", have restored in WI, >> then even compete with it a couple times, take it back to >> "Merry Ole" and sell for something like 1/4 mil ? ! ? ! ? >> He and another chap had 33 & 106 at Conclave '88, IIRC >> at same time ! >> >> Even seems to me IRC a pic "over here" in late '80s of a pic >> in either Healey Marque or Healey Mag. of 56 & 57 together >> ??? From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Jun 2 19:04:52 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:04:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <007701cc218a$3ec14a00$bc43de00$@rr.com> Gary, all I can offer is that I have crossed the Rockies three times in my BJ8, and driven it to the top of Pikes Peak once. I didn't change anything before or after and had only slightly noticeable loss of performance at the summit. Actually, the Healey climbed Pikes Peak much easier than did my '69 Dodge Charger with 383 c.i. engine and four-barrel. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of warthodson at aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:47 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving Many of our local club members are planning on driving their Healeys to Conclave this year. They want to know the best way to adjust their cars for the higher altitude? We plan on driving thru 10 passes over 10,000 feet elevation on our way to Colorado Springs. Should they install lean needles or just lean out their carbs by adjusting the main jet when they get there? Just in case someone encounters difficulty, it is best that I pass on your suggestions, that way I have plausible denial ability. Gary Hodson From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:27:45 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:27:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <007701cc218a$3ec14a00$bc43de00$@rr.com> References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> <007701cc218a$3ec14a00$bc43de00$@rr.com> Message-ID: I did the same trip with Steve in 2002 and did not touch the carbs once, though I was quite low on power as we approached the PP summit--I think I was down into first gear in the final section. One of the drivers who came over from the UK actually had to eject his passenger about 500 feet from the top in order to make it up. The highway passes wer no problem at all. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:04 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Gary, all I can offer is that I have crossed the Rockies three times in my > BJ8, and driven it to the top of Pikes Peak once. I didn't change anything > before or after and had only slightly noticeable loss of performance at the > summit. Actually, the Healey climbed Pikes Peak much easier than did my > '69 > Dodge Charger with 383 c.i. engine and four-barrel. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of warthodson at aol.com > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:47 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving > > Many of our local club members are planning on driving their Healeys to > Conclave this year. They want to know the best way to adjust their cars for > the higher altitude? We plan on driving thru 10 passes over 10,000 feet > elevation on our way to Colorado Springs. Should they install lean needles > or > just lean out their carbs by adjusting the main jet when they get there? > Just > in case someone encounters difficulty, it is best that I pass on your > suggestions, that way I have plausible denial ability. > Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From JPayne at ThorCon.net Thu Jun 2 19:33:12 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:33:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <3E8B94FD13D54E47A906D1BD040BA4F0@oscar> References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com><4CF2E5DC-7647-4BA6-9C7C-C9C7E8410627@gmail.com> <3E8B94FD13D54E47A906D1BD040BA4F0@oscar> Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62735@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> I used to regularly drive on the big island of HI and regularly made trips over "Saddle Road" in my 1960 Morgan. Essentially from Sea level to about 6700 feet and back again. Frankly, I didn't notice much of a difference. We make a run up Mt. Charlston here in Las Vegas at least once a year, its at 7700 feet (although the starting point is about 2300 feet) and I don't notice much of a difference on that run either, although I feel a little short of breath at that elevation. I always thought that it was a advance/retard timing issue, not a fuel delivery issue that had to be dealt with? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Porter Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 5:49 PM To: 'Randy Hicks' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] high altitude driving I run mine up to 10,600 ASL here on std needles. OTOH, 14,000 is another animal. I'd probably lean it out a flat or two for the major passes, but the SU's will somewhat compensate naturally due to less atmospheric pressure at altitude. Better to take some altitude sickness pills for yourself. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesSt uff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randy Hicks Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:38 PM To: warthodson at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] high altitude driving Great question! I'll be driving also and the tour afterwards so I've been wondering the something. Please share if you get good suggestions off list. Randy _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:42:39 2011 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 01:42:39 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Check out the roll bar on the driver's side. How does one get in or out? I'd hate to be in this death trap if it ever caught on fire during a race. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:32:42 +0200 > From: derek.c.job at gmail.com > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction > > Here is another one of those ads making a lot of claims, and connections to > DMH etc, no doubt some of them true judging by the history and names > mentioned. > > http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C229969 > > I can't think of what class of racing that car could compete in,in Europe. > > Derek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Thu Jun 2 19:55:32 2011 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 01:55:32 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?stripped_bolts?= Message-ID: <20110603015532.1893.qmail@server278.com> i learned from someone on the list about running a nut down on the top bolt so that it extends more and it is much easier to get a wrench on the top bolt. saves pulling the trans tunnel when you have to work on it. hjim From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Jun 2 19:56:30 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:56:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> <007701cc218a$3ec14a00$bc43de00$@rr.com> Message-ID: <007e01cc2191$75749190$605db4b0$@rr.com> I think I was in no higher gear than third all the way up the mountain, Michael, but Jeez - it's almost straight up! I had forgotten about Julian's car running out of puff. Anyone interested can read a short bit about our adventures that day here: http://www.easterton.com/june19th.htm Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:28 PM To: BJ8 Healeys Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] high altitude driving I did the same trip with Steve in 2002 and did not touch the carbs once, though I was quite low on power as we approached the PP summit--I think I was down into first gear in the final section. One of the drivers who came over from the UK actually had to eject his passenger about 500 feet from the top in order to make it up. The highway passes wer no problem at all. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:04 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: Gary, all I can offer is that I have crossed the Rockies three times in my BJ8, and driven it to the top of Pikes Peak once. I didn't change anything before or after and had only slightly noticeable loss of performance at the summit. Actually, the Healey climbed Pikes Peak much easier than did my '69 Dodge Charger with 383 c.i. engine and four-barrel. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Jun 2 20:34:20 2011 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:34:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude Message-ID: I live at 6500 ft and have litlle problem going down to sea-level but I'm only a little over half-way up to where you are going. I'd lean it 1/4 turn. The big problem will be you folks. Drink lots of water and very little alcohol (sorry). Take it easy the first day. Air will be dry so use a lot of Chapstick and lotions. Squeeze all your plastic bottles or they will expand and make a mess. If you take heart medicines or glaucoma drops talk to your doctor before you go. Your tires will expand and you may want to drop a pound or two until you get back down to lower altitude. Have fun, you guys. I'm going to Vancouver, WA myself. I would have loved to go to both but no time. Rich Kahn From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Thu Jun 2 20:40:22 2011 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (Jose Vicente Vargas) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:40:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <007e01cc2191$75749190$605db4b0$@rr.com> References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> <007701cc218a$3ec14a00$bc43de00$@rr.com> <007e01cc2191$75749190$605db4b0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <2008FE67-79B6-49D8-98F2-C3B3FF3F4672@yahoo.com> I live at 8000 feet and right now as I write this note I am using my bn2 at sea level. For those traveling to 10000 feet do not do anything other thar maybe moving the jet nut 2 faces Due to altitude of 10000 feet you will lose around 30-35% of power Sent from my iPad On Jun 2, 2011, at 8:56 PM, "BJ8 Healeys" wrote: > I think I was in no higher gear than third all the way up the mountain, > Michael, but Jeez - it's almost straight up! I had forgotten about Julian's > car running out of puff. Anyone interested can read a short bit about our > adventures that day here: http://www.easterton.com/june19th.htm > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:28 PM > To: BJ8 Healeys > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] high altitude driving > > I did the same trip with Steve in 2002 and did not touch the carbs once, > though I was quite low on power as we approached the PP summit--I think I > was down into first gear in the final section. One of the drivers who came > over from the UK actually had to eject his passenger about 500 feet from the > top in order to make it up. The highway passes wer no problem at all. > > Best--Michael Oritt > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:04 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Gary, all I can offer is that I have crossed the Rockies three times in my > BJ8, and driven it to the top of Pikes Peak once. I didn't change anything > before or after and had only slightly noticeable loss of performance at the > summit. Actually, the Healey climbed Pikes Peak much easier than did my '69 > Dodge Charger with 383 c.i. engine and four-barrel. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 20:51:26 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:51:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <007e01cc2191$75749190$605db4b0$@rr.com> References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> <007701cc218a$3ec14a00$bc43de00$@rr.com> <007e01cc2191$75749190$605db4b0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Great memories--and I had forgotten all about the Marmots.... Best--Michael On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:56 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > I think I was in no higher gear than third all the way up the mountain, > Michael, but Jeez - it's almost straight up! I had forgotten about > Julian's > car running out of puff. Anyone interested can read a short bit about our > adventures that day here: http://www.easterton.com/june19th.htm > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:28 PM > To: BJ8 Healeys > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] high altitude driving > > I did the same trip with Steve in 2002 and did not touch the carbs once, > though I was quite low on power as we approached the PP summit--I think I > was down into first gear in the final section. One of the drivers who came > over from the UK actually had to eject his passenger about 500 feet from > the > top in order to make it up. The highway passes wer no problem at all. > > Best--Michael Oritt > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:04 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Gary, all I can offer is that I have crossed the Rockies three times in my > BJ8, and driven it to the top of Pikes Peak once. I didn't change anything > before or after and had only slightly noticeable loss of performance at the > summit. Actually, the Healey climbed Pikes Peak much easier than did my > '69 > Dodge Charger with 383 c.i. engine and four-barrel. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From jule_enterprisesah at yahoo.com Thu Jun 2 20:51:49 2011 From: jule_enterprisesah at yahoo.com (Martin Jansen) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <375472.56839.qm@web121818.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> When I attended Breckenridge, my Healey did not like the altitude so I stopped in at a local service center and asked the mechanic there what they did to adjust to the altitude He suggested we adjust the timing 2 degrees for every 1000 feet. I believe Breckenridge was about 10,000 feet. I set it at 20 degree advance. Since we were constantly at that elevation the car ran fine. He said when we got to a lower elevation to return to normal settings. This worked great for me. Happy Healeying, Marty www.jule-enterprises.com From gmandas at yahoo.com Thu Jun 2 21:07:26 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap In-Reply-To: <375f7.84e68ba.3b191a97@aol.com> Message-ID: <325439.93002.qm@web65901.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Could we get a picture? --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > From: Editorgary at aol.com > Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:55 PM > In a message dated 6/2/11 9:46:49 AM, > healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > > > It is a shy little rubber strap about 4 inches > long. It went > > strapped that wire wrapped lead from engine to temp > gauge in the dash > > to the heater hose. I think they were discarded > rapidly when engines > > were serviced or repaired. A long time ago I sent it > to Roger Moment > > who had duplicates made as he said it was a really > rare bird. What > > is amazing is that it has a patent !!!!! > > > > When I first saw that strap, I thought it looked familiar > from my childhood > spending my days in the back of my dad's bicycle shop, and > later Norman > Nock confirmed it, not from his past car experience but > from having been a > cyclist all his life. We both remembered first seeing that > strap on Humber and > Raleigh bicycles, holding the rear handbrake cable to the > frame of the > bicycle. I'm betting that when they first encountered the > problem of having > the > temp sensor cable fouling whatever it might foul in the > engine compartment, > Roger Menadue went over to his bicycle and pulled the strap > off of it, > determined that it would work, and then they told BMC to > order a couple of > thousand > from whomever supplied them to Humber and Raleigh. > Gary From glemon at neb.rr.com Thu Jun 2 21:19:28 2011 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:19:28 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <375472.56839.qm@web121818.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20110603031929.L1UWN.139657.root@hrndva-web11-z02> To fight loss of power at altitude in wwII aircraft they started supercharging them. Sounds like a good excuse to look into a blower. Know a lot of the MGs and Triumphs and VWs and such used aftermarket superchargers back in the day never heard of such in big healeys, no room? Or? Greg Lemon ---- Martin Jansen wrote: > When I attended Breckenridge, my Healey did not like the altitude so I stopped > in at a local service center and asked the mechanic there what they did to > adjust to the altitude He suggested we adjust the timing 2 degrees for every > 1000 feet. I believe Breckenridge was about 10,000 feet. I set it at 20 degree > advance. Since we were constantly at that elevation the car ran fine. He said > when we got to a lower elevation to return to normal settings. This worked > great for me. > Happy Healeying, Marty www.jule-enterprises.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/glemon at neb.rr.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 21:35:58 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:35:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] short update on 6722 Message-ID: Hello all, Feeling like my car might make it to Rendezvous under it's own power. Got the harness laid in and a few bits hooked up. My 20 year old son dropped by to help My friend is almost done with fixing the door locks and installing the door panels for my interior. Dash is looking great. Going to install the heater this weekend. Biggest roadblock is recalcitrant bolts on my SU body won't release. tried anti-seize, heat, cold, tapping, screw gun, but they will not budge. anyone have a sure fire way to get the little bastards to unscrew? Really sore knees tonight, but worth it cheers, -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jun 2 23:03:22 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 00:03:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: [Spridgets] Check out these car condos] Message-ID: <4DE86B1A.6050501@justbrits.com> I would REALLY "like" one of these Units !!! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Spridgets] Check out these car condos Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:32:56 -0700 From: WFO Herb To: Spridgeteers , Wedge List My kind of place!!! Herb (one of these two ought to work for you) http://www.kare11.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=958137284001#/Twin+Cities+man+creates+a+country+club+for+cars/958137284001 Click here: kare11.com | Minneapolis and St. Paul | KARE Video From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Jun 3 02:09:17 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:09:17 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4DE896AD.8090104@chello.nl> It will hardly be necessary to adjust the SU's to compensate for passes with high altitudes. The system of the SU causes them to adjust to lower air pressure more or less automatically. Anyway, you will only be on high altitudes for a very short time and it should not be a problem. Even on DellOrtos or Webers it would not be a problem. I live below sea level; and I have taken my DellOrto equipped car up to 9500ft several times and never encountered problems. Leave well alone. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Jun 3 04:45:49 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:45:49 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <4DE896AD.8090104@chello.nl> References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> <4DE896AD.8090104@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4DE8BB5D.70504@chello.nl> Forgot to mention to fit a higher pressure radiator cap as on high altitudes you will have reach the boiling point at a lower temperature than usual as the pressure will drop (radiator cap works on over pressure, not absolute pressure). At 10.000ft you have a drop in atmospheric pressure from ca. 14,7psi at sea level to ca. 10psi, so if you use a 7psi radiator cap go to a 12psi rad cap. and check the condition of your hoses and radiator. They need to be in good order if you want to avoid a blown hose or radiator. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From prittenhouse2 at verizon.net Fri Jun 3 06:52:55 2011 From: prittenhouse2 at verizon.net (prittenhouse2 at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 07:52:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] Relocation to Boca Raton Message-ID: <1007046022.1041608.1307105575392.JavaMail.root@vznit170070> Considering a relocation to Boca Raton and am interested in learning if there are Healey activities in the area. Also interested in learning the realities of living there. Please respond offline. Thanks, Phil From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jun 3 07:23:51 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:23:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap In-Reply-To: <325439.93002.qm@web65901.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <375f7.84e68ba.3b191a97@aol.com> <325439.93002.qm@web65901.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000601cc21f1$7a987af0$6fc970d0$@net> It's in the Concours Guidelines photo section. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Mandas Sent: 2011-06-02 11:07 To: healeys at autox.team.net; Editorgary at aol.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap Could we get a picture? --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > From: Editorgary at aol.com > Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:55 PM > In a message dated 6/2/11 9:46:49 AM, > healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > > > It is a shy little rubber strap about 4 inches > long. It went > > strapped that wire wrapped lead from engine to temp > gauge in the dash > > to the heater hose. I think they were discarded > rapidly when engines > > were serviced or repaired. A long time ago I sent it > to Roger Moment > > who had duplicates made as he said it was a really > rare bird. What > > is amazing is that it has a patent !!!!! > > > > When I first saw that strap, I thought it looked familiar > from my childhood > spending my days in the back of my dad's bicycle shop, and > later Norman > Nock confirmed it, not from his past car experience but > from having been a > cyclist all his life. We both remembered first seeing that > strap on Humber and > Raleigh bicycles, holding the rear handbrake cable to the > frame of the > bicycle. I'm betting that when they first encountered the > problem of having > the > temp sensor cable fouling whatever it might foul in the > engine compartment, > Roger Menadue went over to his bicycle and pulled the strap > off of it, > determined that it would work, and then they told BMC to > order a couple of > thousand > from whomever supplied them to Humber and Raleigh. > Gary _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com Fri Jun 3 07:35:15 2011 From: Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:35:15 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black Message-ID: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF633025AC211@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> I am pretty sure I saw that my OEW BJ8 was painted black in the inner fender wells per the Concours Guidelines (which is thousands of miles away at the moment). My car seems to be that way, but was it brushed or sprayed? And a satin black or real flat or just like the radiator cross braces. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Fri Jun 3 07:45:51 2011 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:45:51 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Little rubber strap Message-ID: <000001cc21f4$8e0ac8b0$aa205a10$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Sorry, but I've ignored this until now.....is this the thing that holds the loops of flexi stuff from the temp gauge? &, if it is, I'm pretty sure I got one from Norman 2 or 3 years ago. Maybe more. Simon From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jun 3 08:12:44 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:12:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black In-Reply-To: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF633025AC211@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> References: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF633025AC211@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> Message-ID: <001f01cc21f8$4ee70230$ecb50690$@net> Ken, That seems to have been done on some but not all OEW Hundreds and some early 100/Six's, but I haven't heard of that being done later, and certainly haven't heard of it being done on a BJ8. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Freese, Ken Sent: 2011-06-03 9:35 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black I am pretty sure I saw that my OEW BJ8 was painted black in the inner fender wells per the Concours Guidelines (which is thousands of miles away at the moment). My car seems to be that way, but was it brushed or sprayed? And a satin black or real flat or just like the radiator cross braces. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com Fri Jun 3 08:19:32 2011 From: Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:19:32 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black In-Reply-To: <001f01cc21f8$4ee70230$ecb50690$@net> References: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF633025AC211@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> <001f01cc21f8$4ee70230$ecb50690$@net> Message-ID: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF633025AC2C5@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> Rich, Ok, thanks. I will poke around more carefully then and see if I get a clue as to the black paint origin. The car did have collision damage to the RH rear top of the wheel arch. Ken Freese -----Original Message----- From: Rich Chrysler [mailto:richchrysler at quickclic.net] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:13 AM To: Freese, Ken; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black Ken, That seems to have been done on some but not all OEW Hundreds and some early 100/Six's, but I haven't heard of that being done later, and certainly haven't heard of it being done on a BJ8. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Freese, Ken Sent: 2011-06-03 9:35 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black I am pretty sure I saw that my OEW BJ8 was painted black in the inner fender wells per the Concours Guidelines (which is thousands of miles away at the moment). My car seems to be that way, but was it brushed or sprayed? And a satin black or real flat or just like the radiator cross braces. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From cleona44 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 3 09:28:16 2011 From: cleona44 at hotmail.com (Jim Lesher) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:28:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap In-Reply-To: <000601cc21f1$7a987af0$6fc970d0$@net> References: <375f7.84e68ba.3b191a97@aol.com>, <325439.93002.qm@web65901.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, <000601cc21f1$7a987af0$6fc970d0$@net> Message-ID: Rich - where do you see this photo of the strap in the Current Guidelines? I don't see any photo of this little rubber strap in Section III - Engine Compartment in my copy of the Guidelines, there is 1 photo in my copy which is Figure III-10 - which shows an aluminum strap for the main wiring harness. thanks for your clarification. To see what this little rubber strap looks like just go to p 16 of Austin-Healey Magazine, March 1994 - Norm Nock submitted an article with 2 line drawings of 2 separate rubber straps I can scan the article and send it to John Sims for posting on his site or just send me your request. jim lesher > From: richchrysler at quickclic.net > To: gmandas at yahoo.com; healeys at autox.team.net; Editorgary at aol.com > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:23:51 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > It's in the Concours Guidelines photo section. > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Greg Mandas > Sent: 2011-06-02 11:07 > To: healeys at autox.team.net; Editorgary at aol.com > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > Could we get a picture? > > --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Editorgary at aol.com > wrote: > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > > Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:55 PM > > In a message dated 6/2/11 9:46:49 AM, > > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > writes: > > > > > > > It is a shy little rubber > strap about 4 inches > > long. It went > > > strapped that wire wrapped lead from > engine to temp > > gauge in the dash > > > to the heater hose. I think they were > discarded > > rapidly when engines > > > were serviced or repaired. A long time > ago I sent it > > to Roger Moment > > > who had duplicates made as he said it was > a really > > rare bird. What > > > is amazing is that it has a patent !!!!! > > > > > > > When I first saw that strap, I thought it looked familiar > > from my > childhood > > spending my days in the back of my dad's bicycle shop, and > > later > Norman > > Nock confirmed it, not from his past car experience but > > from having > been a > > cyclist all his life. We both remembered first seeing that > > strap on > Humber and > > Raleigh bicycles, holding the rear handbrake cable to the > > frame > of the > > bicycle. I'm betting that when they first encountered the > > problem > of having > > the > > temp sensor cable fouling whatever it might foul in the > > > engine compartment, > > Roger Menadue went over to his bicycle and pulled the > strap > > off of it, > > determined that it would work, and then they told BMC to > > order a couple of > > thousand > > from whomever supplied them to Humber and > Raleigh. > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cleona44 at hotmail.com From austin.healey at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 09:38:08 2011 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 01:38:08 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black In-Reply-To: <001f01cc21f8$4ee70230$ecb50690$@net> References: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF633025AC211@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> <001f01cc21f8$4ee70230$ecb50690$@net> Message-ID: <47B58282-B24E-446F-BE3F-0C9170641ECD@gmail.com> My BJ8 was Ivory over black. The underside of my BJ8 was black tar paint. As was the underside of the bonnet/ hood (you know, the liftable panel over the engine - geez - I'm so politically correct in my old age...) Anyway, look at the sales invoice for my BJ8. http://www.myaustinhealey.com/john-sprinzel-healey.html So. If it's tar sprayed stuff. It's probably dealer applied. Like mine was. If you think BMC did it, with paint, consult your Heritage Certificate. Ken. The factory painted the chassis in the major car colour, on BJ8's, 99.9999% of the time. The DHMoCo was the major exception! (note the u in colour!!!). But dealers sold the dream. Any way that got the sale. But most later 3000's cars I've seen with a white/ Ivory chassis = major colour is white/ ivory, including inner guards. Where under the guard is black, on a BJ8, these cars have ivory/ white paint underneath. In my experience. For what it's worth. Best Chris. Sent from my iPhone On 04/06/2011, at 12:12 AM, "Rich Chrysler" wrote: > Ken, > > That seems to have been done on some but not all OEW Hundreds and > some early > 100/Six's, but I haven't heard of that being done later, and certainly > haven't heard of it being done on a BJ8. > > Rich > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black > > I am pretty sure I saw that my OEW BJ8 was painted black in the > inner fender > wells per the Concours Guidelines (which is thousands of miles away > at the > moment). My car seems to be that way, but was it brushed or sprayed? > And a > satin black or real flat or just like the radiator cross braces. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com Fri Jun 3 09:48:31 2011 From: Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:48:31 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black In-Reply-To: <47B58282-B24E-446F-BE3F-0C9170641ECD@gmail.com> References: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF633025AC211@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> <001f01cc21f8$4ee70230$ecb50690$@net> <47B58282-B24E-446F-BE3F-0C9170641ECD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF633025AC41C@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> Under the black painted rear bump stops, there is white paint. I will try to figure out if the stops have normal original black paint or a dealer/body shop applied black paint when I get back to the car. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dimmock [mailto:austin.healey at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:38 AM To: Rich Chrysler Cc: Freese, Ken; Subject: Re: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black My BJ8 was Ivory over black. The underside of my BJ8 was black tar paint. As was the underside of the bonnet/ hood (you know, the liftable panel over the engine - geez - I'm so politically correct in my old age...) Anyway, look at the sales invoice for my BJ8. http://www.myaustinhealey.com/john-sprinzel-healey.html So. If it's tar sprayed stuff. It's probably dealer applied. Like mine was. If you think BMC did it, with paint, consult your Heritage Certificate. Ken. The factory painted the chassis in the major car colour, on BJ8's, 99.9999% of the time. The DHMoCo was the major exception! (note the u in colour!!!). But dealers sold the dream. Any way that got the sale. But most later 3000's cars I've seen with a white/ Ivory chassis = major colour is white/ ivory, including inner guards. Where under the guard is black, on a BJ8, these cars have ivory/ white paint underneath. In my experience. For what it's worth. Best Chris. Sent from my iPhone On 04/06/2011, at 12:12 AM, "Rich Chrysler" wrote: > Ken, > > That seems to have been done on some but not all OEW Hundreds and > some early > 100/Six's, but I haven't heard of that being done later, and certainly > haven't heard of it being done on a BJ8. > > Rich > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black > > I am pretty sure I saw that my OEW BJ8 was painted black in the > inner fender > wells per the Concours Guidelines (which is thousands of miles away > at the > moment). My car seems to be that way, but was it brushed or sprayed? > And a > satin black or real flat or just like the radiator cross braces. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 From ah3000me at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 10:34:34 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:34:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Lockheed calipers for a BJ8 Message-ID: I picked up a couple of rebuilt calipers for my BJ8. They are Raybestos part number FRC3221 and FRC3222. The calipers are Lockheed units, not Girling. Has any else used these? I noticed that the metal brake line goes in the side of the caliper, not the top... grrrrr - Tom From barrie at look.ca Fri Jun 3 09:58:34 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:58:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap In-Reply-To: References: <375f7.84e68ba.3b191a97@aol.com> <325439.93002.qm@web65901.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <000601cc21f1$7a987af0$6fc970d0$@net> Message-ID: Hello folks, Attached is my photos of the Dunlop strap - It was obviously used elsewhere - but where?? Motorbikes, bicycles, invalid chairs ??? At 11:28 AM 6/3/2011, Jim Lesher wrote: >Rich - where do you see this photo of the strap in the Current Guidelines? I >don't see any photo of this little rubber strap in Section III - Engine >Compartment in my copy of the Guidelines, there is 1 photo in my copy which is >Figure III-10 - which shows an aluminum strap for the main wiring harness. >thanks for your clarification. > >To see what this little rubber strap looks like just go to p 16 of >Austin-Healey Magazine, March 1994 - Norm Nock submitted an article with 2 >line drawings of 2 separate rubber straps >I can scan the article and send it to John Sims for posting on his site or >just send me your request. >jim lesher > > > > From: richchrysler at quickclic.net > > To: gmandas at yahoo.com; healeys at autox.team.net; Editorgary at aol.com > > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:23:51 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > > It's in the Concours Guidelines photo section. > > > > Rich > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On Behalf Of Greg Mandas > > Sent: 2011-06-02 11:07 > > To: healeys at autox.team.net; Editorgary at aol.com > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > > Could we get a picture? > > > > --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Editorgary at aol.com > > wrote: > > > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > > > > Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > > > > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:55 PM > > > In a message dated 6/2/11 9:46:49 AM, > > > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > It is a shy little rubber > > strap about 4 inches > > > long. It went > > > > strapped that wire wrapped lead from > > engine to temp > > > gauge in the dash > > > > to the heater hose. I think they were > > discarded > > > rapidly when engines > > > > were serviced or repaired. A long time > > ago I sent it > > > to Roger Moment > > > > who had duplicates made as he said it was > > a really > > > rare bird. What > > > > is amazing is that it has a patent !!!!! > > > > > > > > > > When I first saw that strap, I thought it looked familiar > > > from my > > childhood > > > spending my days in the back of my dad's bicycle shop, and > > > later > > Norman > > > Nock confirmed it, not from his past car experience but > > > from having > > been a > > > cyclist all his life. We both remembered first seeing that > > > strap on > > Humber and > > > Raleigh bicycles, holding the rear handbrake cable to the > > > frame > > of the > > > bicycle. I'm betting that when they first encountered the > > > problem > > of having > > > the > > > temp sensor cable fouling whatever it might foul in the > > > > > engine compartment, > > > Roger Menadue went over to his bicycle and pulled the > > strap > > > off of it, > > > determined that it would work, and then they told BMC to > > > order a couple of > > > thousand > > > from whomever supplied them to Humber and > > Raleigh. > > > Gary > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cleona44 at hotmail.com >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Dunlop strap from A Healey.jpg"; x-mac-type="4A504547"; x-mac-creator="4A565752] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Strap in place.jpg"; x-mac-type="4A504547"; x-mac-creator="4A565752] From austin.healey at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 11:04:59 2011 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 03:04:59 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] high altitude driving In-Reply-To: <4DE896AD.8090104@chello.nl> References: <8CDEF9690E267B8-1D2C-2C2E0@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> <4DE896AD.8090104@chello.nl> Message-ID: <5B691734-09F5-4A7F-9578-D5E223FC3864@gmail.com> 10,000 plus feet, or so, driving my Healey, is something, living in Sydney, NSW, Australia, that I've never previously considered. I think if you have SU's, on a road car, just cruising around, you can back off a flat or 2 or 3 Or not. Your car. Have fun. However, for all those who say altitude makes no difference, consider this. Mt Panorama, Bathurst is about 780 metres above sea level. Wakefield Park, Goulburn is around 700 metres above sea level. (yes, you other Aussies, guess what! Weber jetting is the same for Bathurst as for Wakefield) So with Webers, you either go one size larger on the airs, or one size lower on the mains. Your choice And that's at 700m (2,300 or so feet above sea level) Your mileage, horsepower, attitude and fun may vary. Geez. 10,000 feet. That's awesome. I could tell you the story of boiling my Bugeye sprite at 2.00 am, with snow on the ground, with no soft top, on my way from Jindabyne back to Thredbo - but I had SU's. And back then, I had no idea of the whole altitude issue. And...... ;-) .... Neither did she... ;-) Chris Sent from my iPhone On 03/06/2011, at 6:09 PM, Oudesluys wrote: > It will hardly be necessary to adjust the SU's to compensate for > passes > with high altitudes. The system of the SU causes them to adjust to > lower > air pressure more or less automatically. Anyway, you will only be on > high altitudes for a very short time and it should not be a problem. > Even on DellOrtos or Webers it would not be a problem. I live below > sea > level; and I have taken my DellOrto equipped car up to 9500ft several > times and never encountered problems. > Leave well alone. > Kees Oudesluijs From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jun 3 11:06:04 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:06:04 EDT Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap Message-ID: In a message dated 6/3/11 10:02:52 AM, barrie at look.ca writes: > Hello folks, > > Attached is my photos of the Dunlop strap - It was obviously used > elsewhere - but where?? Motorbikes, bicycles, invalid chairs ??? > Maybe all of the above, but definitely used to secure the hand-brake cable to the tube of the bicycle frame on English bikes of the period. gary From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jun 3 11:18:34 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:18:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black In-Reply-To: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF633025AC41C@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> References: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF633025AC211@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> <001f01cc21f8$4ee70230$ecb50690$@net> <47B58282-B24E-446F-BE3F-0C9170641ECD@gmail.com> <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF633025AC41C@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> Message-ID: <000b01cc2212$450d7f90$cf287eb0$@net> Ken, Think about it this way...it's a whole lot easier if you understand and visualize that the entire body shell, including anything that was part of the body assembly, brackets, clips, etc got sprayed the main body colour. The bump stops were black on all cars because they were not installed until the complete rear axle assembly was installed...a bump stop would be in the way. Rich -----Original Message----- From: Freese, Ken [mailto:Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com] Sent: 2011-06-03 11:49 To: Chris Dimmock; Rich Chrysler Cc: Subject: RE: [Healeys] white car inner wings painted black Under the black painted rear bump stops, there is white paint. I will try to figure out if the stops have normal original black paint or a dealer/body shop applied black paint when I get back to the car. Ken From cleona44 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 3 11:25:09 2011 From: cleona44 at hotmail.com (Jim Lesher) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:25:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap In-Reply-To: References: <375f7.84e68ba.3b191a97@aol.com>, <325439.93002.qm@web65901.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, <000601cc21f1$7a987af0$6fc970d0$@net>, , Message-ID: Barrie - thanks for the photo. Interesting per Norm's line drawing, the word JOHNBULL is used instead of Dunlop. But drawing is exactly the same the photo. lot's of Healey trivia > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:58:34 -0400 > To: cleona44 at hotmail.com; richchrysler at quickclic.net; gmandas at yahoo.com; healeys at autox.team.net; editorgary at aol.com > From: barrie at look.ca > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > Hello folks, > > Attached is my photos of the Dunlop strap - It was obviously used > elsewhere - but where?? Motorbikes, bicycles, invalid chairs ??? > > > > > At 11:28 AM 6/3/2011, Jim Lesher wrote: > >Rich - where do you see this photo of the strap in the Current Guidelines? I > >don't see any photo of this little rubber strap in Section III - Engine > >Compartment in my copy of the Guidelines, there is 1 photo in my copy which is > >Figure III-10 - which shows an aluminum strap for the main wiring harness. > >thanks for your clarification. > > > >To see what this little rubber strap looks like just go to p 16 of > >Austin-Healey Magazine, March 1994 - Norm Nock submitted an article with 2 > >line drawings of 2 separate rubber straps > >I can scan the article and send it to John Sims for posting on his site or > >just send me your request. > >jim lesher > > > > > > > From: richchrysler at quickclic.net > > > To: gmandas at yahoo.com; healeys at autox.team.net; Editorgary at aol.com > > > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:23:51 -0400 > > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > > > > It's in the Concours Guidelines photo section. > > > > > > Rich > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > >[mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > On Behalf Of Greg Mandas > > > Sent: 2011-06-02 11:07 > > > To: healeys at autox.team.net; Editorgary at aol.com > > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > > > > Could we get a picture? > > > > > > --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Editorgary at aol.com > > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > > > > > > Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:55 PM > > > > In a message dated 6/2/11 9:46:49 AM, > > > > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a shy little rubber > > > strap about 4 inches > > > > long. It went > > > > > strapped that wire wrapped lead from > > > engine to temp > > > > gauge in the dash > > > > > to the heater hose. I think they were > > > discarded > > > > rapidly when engines > > > > > were serviced or repaired. A long time > > > ago I sent it > > > > to Roger Moment > > > > > who had duplicates made as he said it was > > > a really > > > > rare bird. What > > > > > is amazing is that it has a patent !!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I first saw that strap, I thought it looked familiar > > > > from my > > > childhood > > > > spending my days in the back of my dad's bicycle shop, and > > > > later > > > Norman > > > > Nock confirmed it, not from his past car experience but > > > > from having > > > been a > > > > cyclist all his life. We both remembered first seeing that > > > > strap on > > > Humber and > > > > Raleigh bicycles, holding the rear handbrake cable to the > > > > frame > > > of the > > > > bicycle. I'm betting that when they first encountered the > > > > problem > > > of having > > > > the > > > > temp sensor cable fouling whatever it might foul in the > > > > > > > engine compartment, > > > > Roger Menadue went over to his bicycle and pulled the > > > strap > > > > off of it, > > > > determined that it would work, and then they told BMC to > > > > order a couple of > > > > thousand > > > > from whomever supplied them to Humber and > > > Raleigh. > > > > Gary > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cleona44 at hotmail.com > >_______________________________________________ > >Healeys at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca > > Regards > > Barrie > barrie at look.ca > 705-721-9060 From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jun 3 11:41:17 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:41:17 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Black fender wells? On a white BJ8? Message-ID: In a message dated 6/3/11 10:04:45 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > I am pretty sure I saw that my OEW BJ8 was painted black in the inner > fender > wells per the Concours Guidelines (which is thousands of miles away at the > moment). My car seems to be that way, but was it brushed or sprayed? And a > satin black or real flat or just like the radiator cross braces. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > No, not true. The only instances of OEW cars having black underbody is early BN1s. After that, the cars were painted once and only once, body color. (oversprayed coves on two-tones). The only circumstances under which a white car would have black fender wells would be with a dealer-applied undercoating (which we do not recommend replacing) or a sloppy restoration. Gary From frogeye at porterscustom.com Fri Jun 3 11:41:46 2011 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:41:46 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8922436351704ACDA10DACC6D7761E49@oscar> Brake cable housing was secured to the frame tubes with metal (almost always chromed) perhaps there was an instance of using a rubber band of some sort on the housing that hung off the handlebars, but that doesn't ring any bells either... dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 11:52:30 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:52:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] undercoating Message-ID: The question to undercoat or not has been going through my mind. I live in a very wet place, my frame is still red from the original body color, now blue/white. I also like the sound deadening aspects of undercoating. Opinions? On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 6/3/11 10:04:45 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > > > > > I am pretty sure I saw that my OEW BJ8 was painted black in the inner > > fender > > wells per the Concours Guidelines (which is thousands of miles away at > the > > moment). My car seems to be that way, but was it brushed or sprayed? And > a > > satin black or real flat or just like the radiator cross braces. > > Ken Freese > > 65 BJ8 > > > > No, not true. The only instances of OEW cars having black underbody is > early BN1s. After that, the cars were painted once and only once, body > color. > (oversprayed coves on two-tones). The only circumstances under which a > white > car would have black fender wells would be with a dealer-applied > undercoating > (which we do not recommend replacing) or a sloppy restoration. > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 3 12:11:31 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:11:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Lockheed calipers for a BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110603111158.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Those part numbers and your description are for a Sprite. Peter C == At 11:34 AM 6/3/2011, Tom wrote: >I picked up a couple of rebuilt calipers for my BJ8. They are Raybestos >part number FRC3221 and FRC3222. The calipers are Lockheed units, not >Girling. Has any else used these? I noticed that the metal brake line >goes in the side of the caliper, not the top... grrrrr > >- Tom From editorgary at aol.com Fri Jun 3 12:16:01 2011 From: editorgary at aol.com (Gary Anderson) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:16:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] undercoating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don't do it is my advice. For sound put pads under the carpets but under coating more often traps moisture than protecting against it. Gary Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:52 AM, I Erbs wrote: > The question to undercoat or not has been going through my mind. I live in a very wet place, my frame is still red from the original body color, now blue/white. > I also like the sound deadening aspects of undercoating. > Opinions? > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 6/3/11 10:04:45 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > > > > > I am pretty sure I saw that my OEW BJ8 was painted black in the inner > > fender > > wells per the Concours Guidelines (which is thousands of miles away at the > > moment). My car seems to be that way, but was it brushed or sprayed? And a > > satin black or real flat or just like the radiator cross braces. > > Ken Freese > > 65 BJ8 > > > > No, not true. The only instances of OEW cars having black underbody is > early BN1s. After that, the cars were painted once and only once, body color. > (oversprayed coves on two-tones). The only circumstances under which a white > car would have black fender wells would be with a dealer-applied undercoating > (which we do not recommend replacing) or a sloppy restoration. > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > > > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Jun 3 14:07:11 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:07:11 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] undercoating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DE93EEF.4030103@chello.nl> If you choose the right kind of UBC (flexible and self repairing) it will protect the car well, but at the same time you need a complete anti corrosion wax treatment. However you will never win a concours and selling may be a problem as people like to see what they buy and UBC can cover up a multitude of sins. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Fri Jun 3 14:26:00 2011 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:26:00 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] WG: Lockheed calipers for a BJ8 Message-ID: I can only second Peter. These are MK3 Calipers, but not for a BJ8 but for a Sprite Mk3 onwards. My Sprite has them installed. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Peter Caldwell Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Juni 2011 20:12 An: Tom; healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Lockheed calipers for a BJ8 Those part numbers and your description are for a Sprite. Peter C == At 11:34 AM 6/3/2011, Tom wrote: >I picked up a couple of rebuilt calipers for my BJ8. They are Raybestos >part number FRC3221 and FRC3222. The calipers are Lockheed units, not >Girling. Has any else used these? I noticed that the metal brake line >goes in the side of the caliper, not the top... grrrrr > >- Tom From gmandas at yahoo.com Fri Jun 3 15:50:10 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:50:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] undercoating In-Reply-To: <4DE93EEF.4030103@chello.nl> References: <4DE93EEF.4030103@chello.nl> Message-ID: I gotta tell you, when I bought my BJ8, the first time I have been in one since 1973 and knowing what rust did to cars, back then, I was quite happy to see undercoating. I'm sure it was a major reason the underbody was in such great shape. But, caveat, I was looking for an original driver, not a restored car and if I was to restore it, I wouldn't undercoat it, because I know the car will be treated such that it wouldn't be necessary. 2 ¢ Greg 65BJ8 Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jun 3, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Oudesluys wrote: > If you choose the right kind of UBC (flexible and self repairing) it > will protect the car well, but at the same time you need a complete anti > corrosion wax treatment. > However you will never win a concours and selling may be a problem as > people like to see what they buy and UBC can cover up a multitude of sins. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From michael.oritt at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 17:22:34 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 19:22:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Friday humor: Difference between women's and men's thought processes Message-ID: *Wifes Diary:* Tonight, I thought my husband was acting weird. We had made plans to meet at a nice restaurant for dinner. I was shopping with my friends all day long, so I thought he was upset at the fact that I was a bit late, but he made no comment on it. Conversation wasn't flowing, so I suggested that we go somewhere quiet so we could talk. He agreed, but he didn't say much. I asked him what was wrong; He said, 'Nothing.' I asked him if it was my fault that he was upset. He said he wasn't upset, that it had nothing to do with me, and not to worry about it. On the way home, I told him that I loved him. He smiled slightly, and kept driving. I can't explain his behavior I don't know why he didn't say, 'I love you, too.' When we got home, I felt as if I had lost him completely, as if he wanted nothing to do with me anymore. He just sat there quietly, and watched TV. He continued to seem distant and absent. Finally, with silence all around us, I decided to go to bed. About 15 minutes later, he came to bed. But I still felt that he was distracted, and his thoughts were somewhere else. He fell asleep - I cried. I don't know what to do. I'm almost sure that his thoughts are with someone else. My life is a disaster. *Husband's Diary:* Healey wouldn't start, can't figure it out. __._,_.___ From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 17:32:05 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:32:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Friday humor: Difference between women's and men's thought processes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lo freaking loud Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 3, 2011 4:29 PM, "Michael Oritt" wrote: > *Wife s Diary:* > > > > Tonight, I thought my husband was acting weird. We had made plans to meet at > a nice restaurant for dinner. I was shopping with my friends all day long, > so I thought he was upset at the fact that I was a bit late, but he made no > comment on it. Conversation wasn't flowing, so I suggested that we go > somewhere quiet so we could talk. He agreed, but he didn't say much. > > > > I asked him what was wrong; He said, 'Nothing.' I asked him if it was my > fault that he was upset. He said he wasn't upset, that it had nothing to do > with me, and not to worry about it. On the way home, I told him that I loved > him. He smiled slightly, and kept driving. > > > > I can't explain his behavior I don't know why he didn't say, 'I love you, > too.' When we got home, I felt as if I had lost him completely, as if he > wanted nothing to do with me anymore. He just sat there quietly, and watched > TV. He continued to seem distant and absent. Finally, with silence all > around us, I decided to go to bed. About 15 minutes later, he came to bed. > But I still felt that he was distracted, and his thoughts were somewhere > else. He fell asleep - I cried. I don't know what to do. I'm almost sure > that his thoughts are with someone else. My life is a disaster. > > > > > > *Husband's Diary:* > > > Healey wouldn't start, can't figure it out. > > __._,_.___ > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 17:48:23 2011 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:48:23 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Friday humor: Difference between women's and men's thought processes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you! Had a crap of a day and needed a good laugh. Have to forward this one to the wife. Jody On 6/3/11, I Erbs wrote: > Lo freaking loud > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > > On Jun 3, 2011 4:29 PM, "Michael Oritt" wrote: >> *Wife s Diary:* >> >> >> >> Tonight, I thought my husband was acting weird. We had made plans to meet > at >> a nice restaurant for dinner. I was shopping with my friends all day long, >> so I thought he was upset at the fact that I was a bit late, but he made > no >> comment on it. Conversation wasn't flowing, so I suggested that we go >> somewhere quiet so we could talk. He agreed, but he didn't say much. >> >> >> >> I asked him what was wrong; He said, 'Nothing.' I asked him if it was my >> fault that he was upset. He said he wasn't upset, that it had nothing to > do >> with me, and not to worry about it. On the way home, I told him that I > loved >> him. He smiled slightly, and kept driving. >> >> >> >> I can't explain his behavior I don't know why he didn't say, 'I love you, >> too.' When we got home, I felt as if I had lost him completely, as if he >> wanted nothing to do with me anymore. He just sat there quietly, and > watched >> TV. He continued to seem distant and absent. Finally, with silence all >> around us, I decided to go to bed. About 15 minutes later, he came to bed. >> But I still felt that he was distracted, and his thoughts were somewhere >> else. He fell asleep - I cried. I don't know what to do. I'm almost sure >> that his thoughts are with someone else. My life is a disaster. >> >> >> >> >> >> *Husband's Diary:* >> >> >> Healey wouldn't start, can't figure it out. >> >> __._,_.___ >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jodyfkerr at gmail.com > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/They-Might-Be-Racing/182813478411202<--Follow us on Facebook! 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 3 18:32:03 2011 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 17:32:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] tri-carb choke cable - knob Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20110603172845.0203a6f8@pop.att.yahoo.com> I have had two 1962 tri-carbs and they both had a stranded wire choke cable and the knob had a large "C" painted white. Was that the correct type of knob and cable or was it perhaps a replacement? I am interested in finding the knob and cable if that is the correct one for a tri-carb but is seems to be unobtainable but I don't know if it is correct. Thank you, John Spaur '62 MKII From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 20:23:10 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:23:10 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Black fender wells? On a white BJ8? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gary is right, it's undercoating, or more commonly referred to in the industry as MOAC which is short for "Metal Oxidation Activator Compound" > > No, not true. The only instances of OEW cars having black underbody is > early BN1s. After that, the cars were painted once and only once, body > color. > (oversprayed coves on two-tones). The only circumstances under which a > white > car would have black fender wells would be with a dealer-applied > undercoating > (which we do not recommend replacing) or a sloppy restoration. > > Gary From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 20:24:57 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:24:57 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] undercoating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I live in Hong Kong which is tropical. There is no substitute for a very good coat of paint, preferably with a zinc undercoating or galvanization. Undercoating is a recipe for disaster. Waxoyl is a good idea for the chassis. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:52 AM, I Erbs wrote: > The question to undercoat or not has been going through my mind. I live in > a > very wet place, my frame is still red from the original body color, now > blue/white. > I also like the sound deadening aspects of undercoating. > Opinions? > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: > > > In a message dated 6/3/11 10:04:45 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > I am pretty sure I saw that my OEW BJ8 was painted black in the inner > > > fender > > > wells per the Concours Guidelines (which is thousands of miles away at > > the > > > moment). My car seems to be that way, but was it brushed or sprayed? > And > > a > > > satin black or real flat or just like the radiator cross braces. > > > Ken Freese > > > 65 BJ8 > > > > > > > No, not true. The only instances of OEW cars having black underbody is > > early BN1s. After that, the cars were painted once and only once, body > > color. > > (oversprayed coves on two-tones). The only circumstances under which a > > white > > car would have black fender wells would be with a dealer-applied > > undercoating > > (which we do not recommend replacing) or a sloppy restoration. > > > > Gary > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jun 3 21:03:46 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:03:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Friday humor: Difference between women's and men's thought processes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DE9A092.6060304@justbrits.com> See Michael ?!? I 'told' you "...the mind IS the 1st thing to go !!!!!! Otherwise............. << *Wife's Diary:* Tonight, I thought my husband was acting weird. *Husband's Diary:* Healey wouldn't start, can't figure it out. >> "The Boys" would KNOW that you RE-wrote that REVERSING the "roles" ! ! ! Even tho Mary does have a 'great' mechanic, I (for one) can tell SHE authored your "piece" because Mary is having some simple 'problem' with *_HER_* BJ-8 !!! That said, it is really nice to see your "softer" side ! ! ! ! -:)-:)-:) Anon From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 22:47:38 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:47:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] undercoating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks all. I will install sound/heat shield to the interior and just keep my fenders clean drain holes open. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > I live in Hong Kong which is tropical. There is no substitute for a very > good coat of paint, preferably with a zinc undercoating or galvanization. > Undercoating is a recipe for disaster. Waxoyl is a good idea for the > chassis. > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:52 AM, I Erbs wrote: > >> The question to undercoat or not has been going through my mind. I live in >> a >> very wet place, my frame is still red from the original body color, now >> blue/white. >> I also like the sound deadening aspects of undercoating. >> Opinions? >> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: >> >> > In a message dated 6/3/11 10:04:45 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net >> > writes: >> > >> > >> > > >> > > I am pretty sure I saw that my OEW BJ8 was painted black in the inner >> > > fender >> > > wells per the Concours Guidelines (which is thousands of miles away at >> > the >> > > moment). My car seems to be that way, but was it brushed or sprayed? >> And >> > a >> > > satin black or real flat or just like the radiator cross braces. >> > > Ken Freese >> > > 65 BJ8 >> > > >> > >> > No, not true. The only instances of OEW cars having black underbody is >> > early BN1s. After that, the cars were painted once and only once, body >> > color. >> > (oversprayed coves on two-tones). The only circumstances under which a >> > white >> > car would have black fender wells would be with a dealer-applied >> > undercoating >> > (which we do not recommend replacing) or a sloppy restoration. >> > >> > Gary >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Ira Erbs >> IT CONSULTANT >> Portland, OR >> >> We can't solve problems by using the same kind of >> thinking we used when we created them. >> -Albert Einstein >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: >> http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> > > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 23:28:47 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:28:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] short update on 6722 In-Reply-To: <4381C64145164CC88B942F24A218637C@GregPC> References: <4381C64145164CC88B942F24A218637C@GregPC> Message-ID: we got all but one free using repeated heat and cooling. only broke one bolt head. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > In my experience they tend to lock up a little bit, but tend to release > with a sharp click then turn fairly easily. That is what I would do, but I > would hate to have someone follow my advice and be faced with the prospect > of trying to drill out a small steel or brass screw from a soft aluminum > body without damagng the body. Good luck in any event. Greg > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* I Erbs > *To:* Greg Lemon > *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:23 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] short update on 6722 > > My concern is breaking the head off. Yes, bottom bolts. > Thanks. > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > > On Jun 2, 2011 8:58 PM, "Greg Lemon" wrote: > > Which bolts? you mean the screws that hold the suction chamber on? try a > > vice grips if you haven't, may bugger up the screw, but will give you a > lot > > more leverage than a screwdriver. The screws are available if needed so > can > > be sacrificed for the good of the cause. > > > > Greg L. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "I Erbs" > > To: "healey help" > > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 10:35 PM > > Subject: [Healeys] short update on 6722 > > > > > >> Hello all, > >> Feeling like my car might make it to Rendezvous under it's own power. > >> Got the harness laid in and a few bits hooked up. My 20 year old son > >> dropped > >> by to help > >> My friend is almost done with fixing the door locks and installing the > >> door > >> panels for my interior. > >> Dash is looking great. Going to install the heater this weekend. > >> Biggest roadblock is recalcitrant bolts on my SU body won't release. > >> tried anti-seize, heat, cold, tapping, screw gun, but they will not > budge. > >> anyone have a sure fire way to get the little bastards to unscrew? > >> Really sore knees tonight, but worth it > >> cheers, > >> > >> -- > >> Ira Erbs > >> IT CONSULTANT > >> Portland, OR > >> > >> We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > >> thinking we used when we created them. > >> -Albert Einstein > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/glemon at neb.rr.com > >> > > > > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Jun 4 01:09:27 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] US Penrite oil distributor Message-ID: <146291.99913.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Several day ago I posted to the list that Penrite oils are supplied in the US by a company by the name of Restoration Supply. Maybe due to the age factor, my memory was fuzzy. I was wrong. the correct name of the company that I meant to tell you about is Restoration Supply. Their web address is: http://www.restorationstuff.com/index.html You can click on their link to download a catalog in PDF form. They also sell Brad Penn oils and Lubriplate products. Start your search on page 21 or 22. I would like to thank John Sims for pointing out the error of my ways and the senior moment I was having when I first brought this up. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 05:16:50 2011 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 06:16:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap In-Reply-To: <000601cc21f1$7a987af0$6fc970d0$@net> References: <375f7.84e68ba.3b191a97@aol.com> <325439.93002.qm@web65901.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <000601cc21f1$7a987af0$6fc970d0$@net> Message-ID: the rubber strap was commonly used for various applications on british motorcycles. cheers, jerry On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > It's in the Concours Guidelines photo section. > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Greg Mandas > Sent: 2011-06-02 11:07 > To: healeys at autox.team.net; Editorgary at aol.com > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > Could we get a picture? > > --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Editorgary at aol.com > wrote: > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > > Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:55 PM > > In a message dated 6/2/11 9:46:49 AM, > > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > writes: > > > > > > > It is a shy little rubber > strap about 4 inches > > long. It went > > > strapped that wire wrapped lead from > engine to temp > > gauge in the dash > > > to the heater hose. I think they were > discarded > > rapidly when engines > > > were serviced or repaired. A long time > ago I sent it > > to Roger Moment > > > who had duplicates made as he said it was > a really > > rare bird. What > > > is amazing is that it has a patent !!!!! > > > > > > > When I first saw that strap, I thought it looked familiar > > from my > childhood > > spending my days in the back of my dad's bicycle shop, and > > later > Norman > > Nock confirmed it, not from his past car experience but > > from having > been a > > cyclist all his life. We both remembered first seeing that > > strap on > Humber and > > Raleigh bicycles, holding the rear handbrake cable to the > > frame > of the > > bicycle. I'm betting that when they first encountered the > > problem > of having > > the > > temp sensor cable fouling whatever it might foul in the > > > engine compartment, > > Roger Menadue went over to his bicycle and pulled the > strap > > off of it, > > determined that it would work, and then they told BMC to > > order a couple of > > thousand > > from whomever supplied them to Humber and > Raleigh. > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 4 07:11:06 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:11:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] US Penrite oil distributor References: <146291.99913.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000601cc22b8$ddeaa110$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Gotcha, its not Restoration Supply , its Restoration Supply. OK, we got that all cleared up. Maybe we'll file that one under a "Friday Funny" or something. ML ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael MacLean" To: Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 3:09 AM Subject: [Healeys] US Penrite oil distributor > Several day ago I posted to the list that Penrite oils are supplied in > the US by a company by the name of Restoration Supply. Maybe due to the > age > factor, my memory was fuzzy. I was wrong. the correct name of the > company > that I meant to tell you about is Restoration Supply. Their web address > is: > http://www.restorationstuff.com/index.html > You can click on their link > to download a catalog in PDF form. They also sell Brad Penn oils and > Lubriplate products. Start your search on page 21 or 22. I would like to > thank John Sims for pointing out the error of my ways and the senior > moment I > was having when I first brought this up. > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Jun 4 07:24:48 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 06:24:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] US Penrite oil distributor In-Reply-To: <000601cc22b8$ddeaa110$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <146291.99913.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <000601cc22b8$ddeaa110$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: See, there I go again. The mistake I made the first time was calling it Restoration Specialties which is a completely different company. Whew! It's a wonder I don't get lost walking out to the garage to my Healeys! Now, where did I put those keys... Forgetful Mike MacLean Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2011, at 6:11, "Mark LaPierre" wrote: > Gotcha, its not Restoration Supply , its Restoration Supply. > > OK, we got that all cleared up. > > Maybe we'll file that one under a "Friday Funny" or something. > > ML > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael MacLean" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 3:09 AM > Subject: [Healeys] US Penrite oil distributor > > >> Several day ago I posted to the list that Penrite oils are supplied in >> the US by a company by the name of Restoration Supply. Maybe due to the age >> factor, my memory was fuzzy. I was wrong. the correct name of the company >> that I meant to tell you about is Restoration Supply. Their web address is: >> http://www.restorationstuff.com/index.html >> You can click on their link >> to download a catalog in PDF form. They also sell Brad Penn oils and >> Lubriplate products. Start your search on page 21 or 22. I would like to >> thank John Sims for pointing out the error of my ways and the senior moment I >> was having when I first brought this up. >> Mike MacLean >> 56 BN2 >> 60 AN5 >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From ah3000me at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 08:47:29 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:47:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] WG: Lockheed calipers for a BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Josef & Peter, After a couple of conversations between the parts shop and their supplier, they came to to the same conclusion. Thanks for your help, Tom On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:26 PM, wrote: > I can only second Peter. These are MK3 Calipers, but not for a BJ8 but for > a > Sprite Mk3 onwards. > My Sprite has them installed. > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > Im > Auftrag von Peter Caldwell > Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Juni 2011 20:12 > An: Tom; healeys at autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Lockheed calipers for a BJ8 > > Those part numbers and your description are for a Sprite. > Peter C > == > At 11:34 AM 6/3/2011, Tom wrote: > >I picked up a couple of rebuilt calipers for my BJ8. They are Raybestos > >part number FRC3221 and FRC3222. The calipers are Lockheed units, not > >Girling. Has any else used these? I noticed that the metal brake line > >goes in the side of the caliper, not the top... grrrrr > > > >- Tom > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah3000me at gmail.com From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sat Jun 4 09:21:22 2011 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:21:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap In-Reply-To: References: <375f7.84e68ba.3b191a97@aol.com>, <325439.93002.qm@web65901.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, <000601cc21f1$7a987af0$6fc970d0$@net>, Message-ID: No one had commented on what a bitch it is to put that strap on. I have seen several ways that the thermometer tube coil is oriented. Coil parallel to the firewall, or parallel to the engine block. I think the book orientates it along the engine block. Rich Kahn > Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 06:16:50 -0500 > From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > To: richchrysler at quickclic.net > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > the rubber strap was commonly used for various applications on british > motorcycles. > cheers, > jerry > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > > > It's in the Concours Guidelines photo section. > > > > Rich > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On Behalf Of Greg Mandas > > Sent: 2011-06-02 11:07 > > To: healeys at autox.team.net; Editorgary at aol.com > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > > Could we get a picture? > > > > --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Editorgary at aol.com > > wrote: > > > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > > > > Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > > > > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:55 PM > > > In a message dated 6/2/11 9:46:49 AM, > > > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > It is a shy little rubber > > strap about 4 inches > > > long. It went > > > > strapped that wire wrapped lead from > > engine to temp > > > gauge in the dash > > > > to the heater hose. I think they were > > discarded > > > rapidly when engines > > > > were serviced or repaired. A long time > > ago I sent it > > > to Roger Moment > > > > who had duplicates made as he said it was > > a really > > > rare bird. What > > > > is amazing is that it has a patent !!!!! > > > > > > > > > > When I first saw that strap, I thought it looked familiar > > > from my > > childhood > > > spending my days in the back of my dad's bicycle shop, and > > > later > > Norman > > > Nock confirmed it, not from his past car experience but > > > from having > > been a > > > cyclist all his life. We both remembered first seeing that > > > strap on > > Humber and > > > Raleigh bicycles, holding the rear handbrake cable to the > > > frame > > of the > > > bicycle. I'm betting that when they first encountered the > > > problem > > of having > > > the > > > temp sensor cable fouling whatever it might foul in the > > > > > engine compartment, > > > Roger Menadue went over to his bicycle and pulled the > > strap > > > off of it, > > > determined that it would work, and then they told BMC to > > > order a couple of > > > thousand > > > from whomever supplied them to Humber and > > Raleigh. > > > Gary > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > jerry wall BN6 > rowlett, tx > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From gbrierton at hotmail.com Sat Jun 4 10:12:40 2011 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (gary brierton) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:12:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap In-Reply-To: References: <375f7.84e68ba.3b191a97@aol.com>, <325439.93002.qm@web65901.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, <000601cc21f1$7a987af0$6fc970d0$@net>, Message-ID: The thermometer tube-coil on my BJ8 was coiled perpendicular to the firewall when I first got my car. However, it was positioned too close to the firewall and on my first trip the vibrating coil effectively sawed into my wiring harness and POOF fire under the bonnet!! Repairs were quickly made and Wanda and I proceeded on our NC to Utah trip for Conclave 1997, without a temp or oil gauge. Checked the oil at every gas stop...no related problems. Installed the combo gauge upon my return to NC. GaryB -----Original Message----- From: Richard Kahn Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:21 AM To: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com ; richchrysler at quickclic.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap No one had commented on what a bitch it is to put that strap on. I have seen several ways that the thermometer tube coil is oriented. Coil parallel to the firewall, or parallel to the engine block. I think the book orientates it along the engine block. Rich Kahn > Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 06:16:50 -0500 > From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > To: richchrysler at quickclic.net > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > the rubber strap was commonly used for various applications on british > motorcycles. > cheers, > jerry > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > > > It's in the Concours Guidelines photo section. > > > > Rich > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On Behalf Of Greg Mandas > > Sent: 2011-06-02 11:07 > > To: healeys at autox.team.net; Editorgary at aol.com > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > > Could we get a picture? > > > > --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Editorgary at aol.com > > wrote: > > > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > > > > Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > > > > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:55 PM > > > In a message dated 6/2/11 9:46:49 AM, > > > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > It is a shy little rubber > > strap about 4 inches > > > long. It went > > > > strapped that wire wrapped lead from > > engine to temp > > > gauge in the dash > > > > to the heater hose. I think they were > > discarded > > > rapidly when engines > > > > were serviced or repaired. A long time > > ago I sent it > > > to Roger Moment > > > > who had duplicates made as he said it was > > a really > > > rare bird. What > > > > is amazing is that it has a patent !!!!! > > > > > > > > > > When I first saw that strap, I thought it looked familiar > > > from my > > childhood > > > spending my days in the back of my dad's bicycle shop, and > > > later > > Norman > > > Nock confirmed it, not from his past car experience but > > > from having > > been a > > > cyclist all his life. We both remembered first seeing that > > > strap on > > Humber and > > > Raleigh bicycles, holding the rear handbrake cable to the > > > frame > > of the > > > bicycle. I'm betting that when they first encountered the > > > problem > > of having > > > the > > > temp sensor cable fouling whatever it might foul in the > > > > > engine compartment, > > > Roger Menadue went over to his bicycle and pulled the > > strap > > > off of it, > > > determined that it would work, and then they told BMC to > > > order a couple of > > > thousand > > > from whomever supplied them to Humber and > > Raleigh. > > > Gary > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > jerry wall BN6 > rowlett, tx > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gbrierton at hotmail.com From barrie at look.ca Sat Jun 4 10:35:51 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:35:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap In-Reply-To: References: <375f7.84e68ba.3b191a97@aol.com> <325439.93002.qm@web65901.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <000601cc21f1$7a987af0$6fc970d0$@net> Message-ID: Richard, You must not be doing it right. Just hold the temp coil covered tube thing to the heater hose with something (string, tape, etc) and fixing the Dunlop strap is relatively easy. At 11:21 AM 6/4/2011, Richard Kahn wrote: >No one had commented on what a bitch it is to put that strap on. I have seen >several ways that the thermometer tube coil is oriented. Coil parallel to the >firewall, or parallel to the engine block. I think the book orientates it >along the engine block. >Rich Kahn > > > Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 06:16:50 -0500 > > From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > > To: richchrysler at quickclic.net > > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > > the rubber strap was commonly used for various applications on british > > motorcycles. > > cheers, > > jerry > > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Rich Chrysler >wrote: > > > > > It's in the Concours Guidelines photo section. > > > > > > Rich > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > > > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > > > On Behalf Of Greg Mandas > > > Sent: 2011-06-02 11:07 > > > To: healeys at autox.team.net; Editorgary at aol.com > > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > > > > Could we get a picture? > > > > > > --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Editorgary at aol.com > > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > > > > > > Subject: [Healeys] The little rubber strap > > > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:55 PM > > > > In a message dated 6/2/11 9:46:49 AM, > > > > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a shy little rubber > > > strap about 4 inches > > > > long. It went > > > > > strapped that wire wrapped lead from > > > engine to temp > > > > gauge in the dash > > > > > to the heater hose. I think they were > > > discarded > > > > rapidly when engines > > > > > were serviced or repaired. A long time > > > ago I sent it > > > > to Roger Moment > > > > > who had duplicates made as he said it was > > > a really > > > > rare bird. What > > > > > is amazing is that it has a patent !!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I first saw that strap, I thought it looked familiar > > > > from my > > > childhood > > > > spending my days in the back of my dad's bicycle shop, and > > > > later > > > Norman > > > > Nock confirmed it, not from his past car experience but > > > > from having > > > been a > > > > cyclist all his life. We both remembered first seeing that > > > > strap on > > > Humber and > > > > Raleigh bicycles, holding the rear handbrake cable to the > > > > frame > > > of the > > > > bicycle. I'm betting that when they first encountered the > > > > problem > > > of having > > > > the > > > > temp sensor cable fouling whatever it might foul in the > > > > > > > engine compartment, > > > > Roger Menadue went over to his bicycle and pulled the > > > strap > > > > off of it, > > > > determined that it would work, and then they told BMC to > > > > order a couple of > > > > thousand > > > > from whomever supplied them to Humber and > > > Raleigh. > > > > Gary > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > jerry wall BN6 > > rowlett, tx > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca (705) 721-9060 From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 13:29:12 2011 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:29:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] How do you remove the speedo works from the case Message-ID: After watching my odometer the other day, I decided it needed cleaning and lube. Went to John Sims site and found article on speedos that I tried to follow. Can't get my Smiths 6125/22 on my BJ8 out of the case. The instuctions say "If the works do not move freely check the reset shaft and be sure that it is not catching on the case." Well, it is definitely catching on the case. I've removed the knurled reset knob, but I cannot push it in far enough to get it inside the case. Anyone know what I'm missing? Bob Johnson BJ8 From healeyguy at bredband.net Sat Jun 4 15:06:57 2011 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 23:06:57 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] How do you remove the speedo works from the case In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DEA9E71.5030000@bredband.net> Bob You need to remove the speedometer face. To do that you need to remove the needle. To remove the needle, put your little finger into one of the holes at the back, then hold the drag cup and twist the needle slightly, it will come off. If it doesn't, it's an other story we can discuss if that happens. Then you have to recalibrate it when you put it together again. Be careful, it's easy to break things. And don't lube too much, oil and grease attract dirt. Per in Sweden Bob Johnson skrev 2011-06-04 21:29: > After watching my odometer the other day, I decided it needed cleaning > and lube. Went to John Sims site and found article on speedos that I > tried to follow. Can't get my Smiths 6125/22 on my BJ8 out of the > case. The instuctions say "If the works do not move freely check the > reset shaft and be sure that it is not catching on the case." Well, it > is definitely catching on the case. I've removed the knurled reset > knob, but I cannot push it in far enough to get it inside the case. > Anyone know what I'm missing? > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at bredband.net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1511/3679 - Release Date: 06/03/11 From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Jun 4 15:14:46 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:14:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] US Penrite oil distributor In-Reply-To: <146291.99913.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <146291.99913.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <028401cc22fc$6eea8cf0$4cbfa6d0$@verizon.net> Link to their very extensive catalog is scheduled for tomorrow morning's update. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 3:09 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] US Penrite oil distributor Several day ago I posted to the list that Penrite oils are supplied in the US by a company by the name of Restoration Supply. Maybe due to the age factor, my memory was fuzzy. I was wrong. the correct name of the company that I meant to tell you about is Restoration Supply. Their web address is: http://www.restorationstuff.com/index.html You can click on their link to download a catalog in PDF form. They also sell Brad Penn oils and Lubriplate products. Start your search on page 21 or 22. I would like to thank John Sims for pointing out the error of my ways and the senior moment I was having when I first brought this up. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Jun 4 17:09:01 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 16:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] US Penrite oil distributor In-Reply-To: <028401cc22fc$6eea8cf0$4cbfa6d0$@verizon.net> References: <146291.99913.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <028401cc22fc$6eea8cf0$4cbfa6d0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <736321.1270.qm@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I even made the same mistake in my reply to you John. I meant to say Resoration Specialties was the incorrect supplier I gave you guys a several days ago and Restoration Supply is the right one. Geesh. Mike MacLean >________________________________ >From: John Sims >To: 'Michael MacLean' ; healeys at autox.team.net >Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2011 2:14 PM >Subject: RE: [Healeys] US Penrite oil distributor > >Link to their very extensive catalog is scheduled for tomorrow morning's >update. > >John Sims, BN6 >Aberdeen, NJ > >http://www.healey6.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] >On Behalf Of Michael MacLean >Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 3:09 AM >To: healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: [Healeys] US Penrite oil distributor > > Several day ago I posted to the list that Penrite oils are supplied in >the US by a company by the name of Restoration Supply. Maybe due to the age >factor, my memory was fuzzy. I was wrong. the correct name of the company >that I meant to tell you about is Restoration Supply. Their web address is: > >http://www.restorationstuff.com/index.html > You can click on their link >to download a catalog in PDF form. They also sell Brad Penn oils and >Lubriplate products. Start your search on page 21 or 22. I would like to >thank John Sims for pointing out the error of my ways and the senior moment >I was having when I first brought this up. >Mike MacLean >56 BN2 >60 AN5 >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Sat Jun 4 17:39:49 2011 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 19:39:49 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Man Caves Message-ID: <2255a.33cc1e29.3b1c1c45@aol.com> Might take a bit of time to load, but this was sent to me by one of the guys in our Healey Club. Pretty interesting. _http://www.kare11.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=958137284001_ (http://www.kare11.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=958137284001) Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 From hubrick at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 18:24:33 2011 From: hubrick at gmail.com (Rick Huber) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 19:24:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Tuning for summer Message-ID: Hi Healey listers, I've been away for a few months, but have been enjoying driving my BJ8 since Dec. A question. Now that it's heated up here in Baton Rouge to 100 the last few days, my engine seems to struggle to accelerate, like it's rich or "loaded up". When I get to highway speed everything seems to smooth out. I was thinking fuel lines were getting hot and I was getting partial evaporation, so I insulated the float bowls with no change. Another theory is with very hot thin air in the engine compartment, my mixture setting is too rich. I've heard of people adjusting mixture at high altitude, and it would be essentially the same for high temperature. Anybody adjust mixture for high temperature operation? Cheers, Rick 1964 BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 20:35:46 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:35:46 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tuning for summer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick - Sounds to me like you need to replace the teflon bushes on your HD8 carbs. Healey carbs get very hot and air gaps can form if your throttle shafts or bushes are not up to snuff. You'd be suprised at the improvement. Alan On 6/5/11, Rick Huber wrote: > Hi Healey listers, > I've been away for a few months, but have been enjoying driving my BJ8 since > Dec. A question. Now that it's heated up here in Baton Rouge to 100 the > last few days, my engine seems to struggle to accelerate, like it's rich or > "loaded up". When I get to highway speed everything seems to smooth out. I > was thinking fuel lines were getting hot and I was getting partial > evaporation, so I insulated the float bowls with no change. Another theory > is with very hot thin air in the engine compartment, my mixture setting is > too rich. I've heard of people adjusting mixture at high altitude, and it > would be essentially the same for high temperature. > Anybody adjust mixture for high temperature operation? > Cheers, > Rick > 1964 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From akronzips at aol.com Sat Jun 4 21:56:33 2011 From: akronzips at aol.com (akronzips at aol.com) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Please take a look at this article I saw on http://www.classicdriver.com: In-Reply-To: <20110603215540.URMK22406.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> References: <20110603215540.URMK22406.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> Message-ID: <8CDF14BB19CDAC3-1BB8-23036@webmail-d167.sysops.aol.com> Very interesting and free magazine subscription. Be sure to check out the "The men on the ribbon of salt" Ab Jenkins wow whatb a driver. Anyone have any secrets to welding the front cowl and boot on a Healey 1961 aluminium? I have so small holes that need mending also the www.Boysofbonneville.com I just thought you all might find this interesting. 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-----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380-- From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 22:11:59 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:11:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Repairing alum Message-ID: I used alumaweld to fill holes in my rear shroud. DPO drilled a bunch of holes in the boot floor. Worked great with map gas Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jun 4 23:04:30 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:04:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] How do you remove the speedo works from the case In-Reply-To: <4DEA9E71.5030000@bredband.net> References: <4DEA9E71.5030000@bredband.net> Message-ID: <4DEB0E5E.2050406@comcast.net> IIRC, it helps to remove the 'barrel' that directs light from the high-beam light to the blue jewel on the face. There is a metal clip with two tangs that can be squeezed to remove the barrel (look on the back of the case and you'll see what I mean). The guts will just come out at an angle. The indicator needle stop is spring-loaded. Use a thin blade or screwdriver to press the stop in, then hold the speedo in normal, level position and note the needle position before pulling it off. It should come to rest near a tiny white dot at about the -5 mph position ('negative 5mph'). Then, you can replace the needle in the same location before pushing it past the stop, and keep your calibration. Bob On 6/4/2011 2:06 PM, Per Schoerner wrote: > Bob > You need to remove the speedometer face. To do that you need to remove the needle. To remove the needle, put your > little finger into one of the holes at the back, then hold the drag cup and twist the needle slightly, it will come > off. If it doesn't, it's an other story we can discuss if that happens. Then you have to recalibrate it when you put > it together again. > Be careful, it's easy to break things. And don't lube too much, oil and grease attract dirt. > > Per in Sweden > > Bob Johnson skrev 2011-06-04 21:29: >> After watching my odometer the other day, I decided it needed cleaning >> and lube. Went to John Sims site and found article on speedos that I >> tried to follow. Can't get my Smiths 6125/22 on my BJ8 out of the >> case. The instuctions say "If the works do not move freely check the >> reset shaft and be sure that it is not catching on the case." Well, it >> is definitely catching on the case. I've removed the knurled reset >> knob, but I cannot push it in far enough to get it inside the case. >> Anyone know what I'm missing? >> >> Bob Johnson >> BJ8 > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 00:33:20 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:33:20 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Repairing alum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The same I did with Prefa aluminium brazing sticks. The bonding is strong but not fragile. Easy to reshape/hammer. Better than AWI velding. Gergo 2011/6/5 I Erbs > I used alumaweld to fill holes in my rear shroud. DPO drilled a bunch of > holes in the boot floor. Worked great with map gas > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jun 5 05:19:50 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 07:19:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Black fender wells? On a white BJ8? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001101cc2372$7c7b6fd0$75724f70$@net> Actually, we've seen a number of early BN4 100/Six's that were OEW with black coves, and they had their engine bays painted black. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: 2011-06-03 1:41 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Black fender wells? On a white BJ8? In a message dated 6/3/11 10:04:45 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > I am pretty sure I saw that my OEW BJ8 was painted black in the inner > fender > wells per the Concours Guidelines (which is thousands of miles away at the > moment). My car seems to be that way, but was it brushed or sprayed? And a > satin black or real flat or just like the radiator cross braces. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > No, not true. The only instances of OEW cars having black underbody is early BN1s. After that, the cars were painted once and only once, body color. (oversprayed coves on two-tones). The only circumstances under which a white car would have black fender wells would be with a dealer-applied undercoating (which we do not recommend replacing) or a sloppy restoration. Gary From barrie at look.ca Sun Jun 5 09:15:48 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:15:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Repairing alum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I forgot to add this to my last missive I sent out... I removed (very carefully) my shroud to get to the underneath stuff. When it came time to re-assemble some many months later I pondered over what I should use to stick it down. Aggressive glue would be a no-no as to remove it in the future would be almost impossible. I found a perfect product! It sticks - but not aggressively, molds but not too much, keeps soft and pliable but not too much. After some 25 years the stuff left in the box is still perfectly useable! It is Proform Dum Dum !! The maker is Proform Products Ltd 430 Harrop Drive Milton Ontario L9T 3H2 It is great for leaky windscreens. You roll the stuff, which comes in worm like strips, to a match stick thickness thread. Ease up the rubber gasket around your glass, drop in the Dum Dum, press back the rubber - and voila !!! No more leaks and it lasts forever. Also blocks holes, cracks and substitutes for playdough !!! At 12:11 AM 6/5/2011, I Erbs wrote: >I used alumaweld to fill holes in my rear shroud. DPO drilled a bunch of >holes in the boot floor. Worked great with map gas >Ira Erbs >IT Consultant >Portland, OR > >sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because >my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 11:37:19 2011 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 13:37:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] How do you remove the speedo works from the case In-Reply-To: <20110605030923.19140.qmail@server278.com> References: <20110605030923.19140.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Thanks everyone for the help. All of the suggestions were cogent. Got it out, tried to put a tiny bit of oil on things. Instead the oil can was working for the company that made it and would only release oil in waves. Soon as I finishdrying things out, I will get it back together since reassembly is the reverse... Bob Johnson BJ8 From gmandas at yahoo.com Sun Jun 5 11:42:52 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 13:42:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for his Healey Message-ID: Looking for his Healey I'm at Brits by the Sea and a previous Healey owner is looking for the car he sold Oh So Namy Years Ago. If any knows of this car ... His name is, Burt Burtburden at hotmail.com 1957 100-6 Colorado red Previous owners he knows of: Miller buick fairfield ct Joel findlay Ray rung Greg 65BJ8 Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Jun 5 12:14:40 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 14:14:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for his Healey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003201cc23ac$704e52b0$50eaf810$@rr.com> As BJ8 registrar, I hear this story all the time. Unfortunately, most previous owners looking for a car they owned years ago have no clue as to what the VIN was. Without a VIN and a registry, tracking down a car is pretty much impossible. About the only source for prehistoric VIN information is insurance companies, if they will go to the trouble of searching their archives, and even then that is limited to how far back they keep records. Another good reason for everyone to get their car properly registered and documented for the future, or for the benefit of future owners who will be interested in the history of their car. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Mandas Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 1:43 PM To: Team Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Looking for his Healey Looking for his Healey I'm at Brits by the Sea and a previous Healey owner is looking for the car he sold Oh So Namy Years Ago. If any knows of this car ... His name is, Burt Burtburden at hotmail.com 1957 100-6 Colorado red Previous owners he knows of: Miller buick fairfield ct Joel findlay Ray rung Greg 65BJ8 Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sbyers at ec.rr.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1511/3682 - Release Date: 06/05/11 From CAWS52803 at aol.com Sun Jun 5 12:51:48 2011 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 14:51:48 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Looking for his Healey Message-ID: Hi Greg, I sent the below email to Burt, but it came back as undeliverable. Rudy ================================================================= Hi Burt, I am the Registrar for the BN4 and BN6, also known as the 100/Six. As Steve Byers said in his email, without the VIN, there is no way for us to trace the car. I only have my listing by VIN and it also includes the current owner, address, phone and email info. I am from CT too and had a 58 BN4 back in 1960 when I lived in Norwalk. I had and still have my 57 BN4 that I bought in Bridgeport about 1976. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC From JPayne at ThorCon.net Sun Jun 5 16:39:38 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:39:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Robins Top Question Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62754@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> I have finally managed to source a wood header piece for my 65 BJ8 and have it wrapped in offwhite vinyl, the top bows have been stripped and repainted - so, ready to start working on installing the top. The original aluminum header piece that attaches to the wood header and forms the seal at the windshield was originally 1/2 wrapped in black vinyl. Looking at some color photos - it's pretty clear that this piece should be wrapped in vinyl to match the top. Thus the question - the Robins top came with 2 pieces of matching fabric - 1 piece is obviously the cut out from the window. The other is a rectangle about 8" x 52". No vinyl material came with the top. Is the rectangular piece used to wrap the leading edge of the aluminum? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jun 5 19:02:11 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:02:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Robins Top Question In-Reply-To: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62754@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62754@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <00f801cc23e5$5e10e430$1a32ac90$@net> Jonas, Yes. It is used to wrap the entire aluminum header piece which is then screwed to the wood header bar. Align it so the perpendicular back edge lines up with the aluminum side cantrail strips as it rounds the front corners so the weather seal will fit well, and make sure the leading edge will nicely line up and match the sloping contour of the front edge of wood header bar. The eventual gap between trimmed header bar where the top material tacks on all across the front, and the pre trimmed aluminum strip will be covered by the hidem strip. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jonas Payne Sent: 2011-06-05 6:40 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Robins Top Question I have finally managed to source a wood header piece for my 65 BJ8 and have it wrapped in offwhite vinyl, the top bows have been stripped and repainted - so, ready to start working on installing the top. The original aluminum header piece that attaches to the wood header and forms the seal at the windshield was originally 1/2 wrapped in black vinyl. Looking at some color photos - it's pretty clear that this piece should be wrapped in vinyl to match the top. Thus the question - the Robins top came with 2 pieces of matching fabric - 1 piece is obviously the cut out from the window. The other is a rectangle about 8" x 52". No vinyl material came with the top. Is the rectangular piece used to wrap the leading edge of the aluminum? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Greg Grant 085.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Copy of Greg Grant 054.jpg] From hubrick at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 19:38:00 2011 From: hubrick at gmail.com (Rick Huber) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 20:38:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Tuning for Summer Message-ID: Thanks for the reply's. I'm thinking with my just rebuilt HD8's (only driven 2,000 miles since the restoration), I wouldn't have any wear or heat problems with the teflon bushings leaking air in. Since nobody said yes to my idea about changing the mixture in the summer heat, I'll go with insulating the fuel line. Cheers, Rick 64 BJ8 From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Sun Jun 5 20:04:55 2011 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 22:04:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad Message-ID: Anyone see the new Sunoco ad they are using at their stations (at least here in South Central PA). A REALLY cool pic of a Healey 100-6 or 3000. Might have to start buying thier gas after seeing this! I don't know how to make attach to the list, so I also e-mailed John Simms- maybe he could host the pic? The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sun Jun 5 20:15:41 2011 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:15:41 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: G'day They have also used a stylised Austin-Healey on their website at: http://www.gosunoco.com/default.aspx If anyone has the image used in their ads would you care to send to me please? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of S and T Miller Sent: Monday, 6 June 2011 12:05 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net; john at healey6.com Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad Anyone see the new Sunoco ad they are using at their stations (at least here in South Central PA). A REALLY cool pic of a Healey 100-6 or 3000. Might have to start buying thier gas after seeing this! I don't know how to make attach to the list, so I also e-mailed John Simms- maybe he could host the pic? The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Jun 5 21:12:57 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 23:12:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad Message-ID: <032801cc23f7$a2acf540$e806dfc0$@verizon.net> Spell my name correctly and I will! Seriously, Will be on the Literature page in tomorrow mornings update along with about 20 or so new items on various pages. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com From: S and T Miller [mailto:stmiller96 at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:05 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net; john at healey6.com Subject: Sunoco Ad Anyone see the new Sunoco ad they are using at their stations (at least here in South Central PA). A REALLY cool pic of a Healey 100-6 or 3000. Might have to start buying thier gas after seeing this! I don't know how to make attach to the list, so I also e-mailed John Simms- maybe he could host the pic? The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 22:15:36 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:15:36 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tuning for Summer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick - Honestly the best solution to this problem is to take out your exhaust header and have it Jet Hot coated with Extreme Sterling to cut down the temps under the bonnet. The Intake manifold sits right on top of the exhaust header and the only way to effectively reduce temps in under the bonnet is by doing this. It's a bit of a job, but if you drive in a hot climate it is well worth it. It really makes a noticeable difference. Alan On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Rick Huber wrote: > Thanks for the reply's. I'm thinking with my just rebuilt HD8's (only > driven 2,000 miles since the restoration), I wouldn't have any wear or heat > problems with the teflon bushings leaking air in. Since nobody said yes to > my idea about changing the mixture in the summer heat, I'll go with > insulating the fuel line. > Cheers, > Rick > 64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 6 09:07:46 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:07:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Robins Top Question In-Reply-To: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62754@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62754@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: That is the material that was the window. They always ship it with the top. Dont ask why i have no idea but it has always been there. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Jonas Payne wrote: > I have finally managed to source a wood header piece for my 65 BJ8 and > have it wrapped in offwhite vinyl, the top bows have been stripped and > repainted - so, ready to start working on installing the top. > > The original aluminum header piece that attaches to the wood header > and > forms the seal at the windshield was originally 1/2 wrapped in black > vinyl. > > Looking at some color photos - it's pretty clear that this piece > should > be wrapped in vinyl to match the top. > > Thus the question - the Robins top came with 2 pieces of matching > fabric > - 1 piece is obviously the cut out from the window. The other is a > rectangle about 8" x 52". No vinyl material came with the top. > > Is the rectangular piece used to wrap the leading edge of the > aluminum? > > > Jonas Payne > PBR > Cell: (702) 358-5084 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 6 09:09:56 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:09:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Robins Top Question In-Reply-To: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62754@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62754@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: Should have read closer. Yes the 8x52 piece is for wrapping the header rail it is supplied with all tops. You can use it to cover the aluminium piece; David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Jonas Payne wrote: > I have finally managed to source a wood header piece for my 65 BJ8 and > have it wrapped in offwhite vinyl, the top bows have been stripped and > repainted - so, ready to start working on installing the top. > > The original aluminum header piece that attaches to the wood header > and > forms the seal at the windshield was originally 1/2 wrapped in black > vinyl. > > Looking at some color photos - it's pretty clear that this piece > should > be wrapped in vinyl to match the top. > > Thus the question - the Robins top came with 2 pieces of matching > fabric > - 1 piece is obviously the cut out from the window. The other is a > rectangle about 8" x 52". No vinyl material came with the top. > > Is the rectangular piece used to wrap the leading edge of the > aluminum? > > > Jonas Payne > PBR > Cell: (702) 358-5084 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 09:44:51 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:44:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Paint code Message-ID: I need the paint code to match the dark blue Moss vinyl interior. Went to my local auto paint supplier and they made it clear, my request was not appreciated. Told me it could take a week to match and up to $80 fot a half pint of paint with no promise it would look right if zi did not spray it on..... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 10:07:36 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:07:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Paint code In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ira-- Go to a different supplier. My local CarQuest scans and matches colors for free and sells me the quantity I need. Best--Michael Oritt On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:44 AM, I Erbs wrote: > I need the paint code to match the dark blue Moss vinyl interior. > Went to my local auto paint supplier and they made it clear, my request was > not appreciated. Told me it could take a week to match and up to $80 fot a > half pint of paint with no promise it would look right if zi did not spray > it on..... > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Mon Jun 6 10:27:19 2011 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:27:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6/3000 top frame Message-ID: Hello all, I am requesting a favor. I bought a late 100-6/ early 3000 top frame from Carlisle Import swap meet this year with the legs cut off. This is the type with the bent legs and tapered bottom section. I want to fabricate the legs, but need a close up/ side view picture of this type of top frame from the pivot points down. From the picture I should be able to calculate the measurements/ bends of the missing legs. So I need a really clear complete (in one picture) straight on shot of the lower half. Would also need some part of the rectangle folding pieces in the picture so that I could also use that as a "known" measurement. Thanks, Shawn The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." From akronzips at aol.com Mon Jun 6 10:31:27 2011 From: akronzips at aol.com (akronzips at aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad Message-ID: <8CDF27E510E70DC-17F4-3C903@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> John: Just a short note I saw the Sunoco gas station ad the other day here in Northeast Ohio . Yep really neat ad. Sunoco gas is the only pur American crude oil gasoline not bought from the Arabs or south America JUST READ BELOW THIS IS NOT AN AD FOR GAS ------THIS IS AN AD FOR AMERICANS TO BUY AMERICAN.MADE FUEL!!!! WHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE You might want to pass this on.... Take a look at WALMART. WOW! They do it right. WHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON. Gas rationing in the 70's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even have been good for us! Are you aware that the Saudis are boycotting American products? In addition, they are gouging us on oil prices. Shouldn't we return the favor? Can't we take control of our own destiny and let these giant oil importers know who REALLY generates their profits, their livings? How about leaving American Dollars in America and reduce the import/export deficit? An appealing remedy might be to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up your car you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia . Just purchase gas from companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill up my tank, I'm sending my money to people who I get the impression want me, my family and my friends dead. The following gas companies import Middle Eastern oil: Shell....................................... 205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco..................... 144,332,000 barrels Exxon /Mobil........................ 130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway.............. 117,740,000 barrels Amoco................................. 62,231,000 barrels And CITGO oil is imported from Venezuela whobs Dictator Hugo Chavez hates America and openly avows our economic destruction! (We pay Chavez's regime nearly $10 Billion per year in oil revenues!) The U.S. Currently imports 5,517,000 barrels of crude oil per day from OPEC. If you do the math at $100 per barrel, that's over $550 million PER DAY ($200 BILLION per year!) handed over to OPEC, many of whose members are our confirmed enemies!!!!! It won't stop here - oil prices could go to $200 a barrel or higher if we keep buying their product. Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: Sunoco.........................0 barrels Conoco............................0 barrels Sinclair.........................0 barrels BP/Phillips....................0 barrels Hess..............................0 barrels ARC0..............................0 barrels Maverick.......................0 barrels Flying J..........................0 barrels Valero............................0 barrels Murphy Oil USA *.............0 barrels *Sold at Wal-Mart <; , gas is from South Arkansas and fully USA owned and produced. *Not only that but they give scholarships to all children in their town who finish high school and are legal US citizens. All of this information is available from the U.S. Department of Energy and each company is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. -----Original Message----- From: John Sims To: Healey List Sent: Sun, Jun 5, 2011 11:32 pm Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad Spell my name correctly and I will! Seriously, Will be on the Literature age in tomorrow mornings update along with about 20 or so new items on arious pages. John Sims, BN6 berdeen, NJ www.healey6.com rom: S and T Miller [mailto:stmiller96 at hotmail.com] ent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:05 PM o: healeys at autox.team.net; john at healey6.com ubject: Sunoco Ad Anyone see the new Sunoco ad they are using at their stations (at least here n South Central PA). A REALLY cool pic of a Healey 100-6 or 3000. Might ave to start buying thier gas after seeing this! I don't know how to make ttach to the list, so I also e-mailed John Simms- maybe he could host the ic? The Millers British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test rive." ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/akronzips at aol.com From akronzips at aol.com Mon Jun 6 10:39:56 2011 From: akronzips at aol.com (akronzips at aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Sunoco Ad//American gasoline In-Reply-To: <8CDF27E510E70DC-17F4-3C903@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CDF27E510E70DC-17F4-3C903@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CDF27F8042143C-17F4-3CB15@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> ahbn6 at verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: akronzips To: Healeys ; ahbn6 Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 12:31 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad John: Just a short note I saw the Sunoco gas station ad the other day here in Northeast Ohio . Yep really neat ad. Sunoco gas is the only pur American crude oil gasoline not bought from the Arabs or south America JUST READ BELOW THIS IS NOT AN AD FOR GAS ------THIS IS AN AD FOR AMERICANS TO BUY AMERICAN.MADE FUEL!!!! Sorry I'll get down off my soapbox Howard Morris 61 BT7 WHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE You might want to pass this on.... Take a look at WALMART. WOW! They do it right. WHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON. Gas rationing in the 70's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even have been good for us! Are you aware that the Saudis are boycotting American products? In addition, they are gouging us on oil prices. Shouldn't we return the favor? Can't we take control of our own destiny and let these giant oil importers know who REALLY generates their profits, their livings? How about leaving American Dollars in America and reduce the import/export deficit? An appealing remedy might be to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up your car you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia . Just purchase gas from companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill up my tank, I'm sending my money to people who I get the impression want me, my family and my friends dead. The following gas companies import Middle Eastern oil: Shell....................................... 205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco..................... 144,332,000 barrels Exxon /Mobil........................ 130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway.............. 117,740,000 barrels Amoco................................. 62,231,000 barrels And CITGO oil is imported from Venezuela whobs Dictator Hugo Chavez hates America and openly avows our economic destruction! (We pay Chavez's regime nearly $10 Billion per year in oil revenues!) The U.S. Currently imports 5,517,000 barrels of crude oil per day from OPEC. If you do the math at $100 per barrel, that's over $550 million PER DAY ($200 BILLION per year!) handed over to OPEC, many of whose members are our confirmed enemies!!!!! It won't stop here - oil prices could go to $200 a barrel or higher if we keep buying their product. Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: Sunoco.........................0 barrels Conoco............................0 barrels Sinclair.........................0 barrels BP/Phillips....................0 barrels Hess..............................0 barrels ARC0..............................0 barrels Maverick.......................0 barrels Flying J..........................0 barrels Valero............................0 barrels Murphy Oil USA *.............0 barrels *Sold at Wal-Mart <; , gas is from South Arkansas and fully USA owned and produced. *Not only that but they give scholarships to all children in their town who finish high school and are legal US citizens. All of this information is available from the U.S. Department of Energy and each company is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. -----Original Message----- From: John Sims To: Healey List Sent: Sun, Jun 5, 2011 11:32 pm Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad Spell my name correctly and I will! Seriously, Will be on the Literature age in tomorrow mornings update along with about 20 or so new items on arious pages. John Sims, BN6 berdeen, NJ www.healey6.com rom: S and T Miller [mailto:stmiller96 at hotmail.com] ent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:05 PM o: healeys at autox.team.net; john at healey6.com ubject: Sunoco Ad Anyone see the new Sunoco ad they are using at their stations (at least here n South Central PA). A REALLY cool pic of a Healey 100-6 or 3000. Might ave to start buying thier gas after seeing this! I don't know how to make ttach to the list, so I also e-mailed John Simms- maybe he could host the ic? The Millers British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test rive." ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/akronzips at aol.com From mgcharlie at comcast.net Mon Jun 6 11:18:18 2011 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:18:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6/3000 top frame In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DED0BDA.1090106@comcast.net> Shawn, You can come look at either of mine, get the measurements you need, and make any templates. That is assuming that mine are the same. I have seen others with smaller in cross section tubes that are not as strong as either of mine. Looking at it in person should be better than a pic or someone misinterpreting what you need. Charlie On 6/6/2011 12:27 PM, S and T Miller wrote: > Hello all, I am requesting a favor. I bought a late 100-6/ early 3000 top > frame from Carlisle Import swap meet this year with the legs cut off. This is > the type with the bent legs and tapered bottom section. I want to fabricate > the legs, but need a close up/ side view picture of this type of top frame > from the pivot points down. From the picture I should be able to calculate > the measurements/ bends of the missing legs. So I need a really clear > complete (in one picture) straight on shot of the lower half. Would also need > some part of the rectangle folding pieces in the picture so that I could also > use that as a "known" measurement. > Thanks, Shawn > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Jun 6 12:19:06 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:19:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system Message-ID: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> Hello, Healeyphiles - Has anyone installed a coolant recovery system using generic hardware from the local auto parts store? I installed a recovery system in my BJ8 using the brass recovery tank from a junkyard MG Midget. Someone saw my article about my system and wants to install a similar system in a '65 Midget, but doesn't want to spring for a new MG tank ($$). I seem to recall a discussion on the list some time ago about using a generic tank from Autozone, Pep Boys, etc. I have no experience with the plastic tanks, so thought I would ask for input from the list. Thanks! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC From waschu2 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 12:46:01 2011 From: waschu2 at gmail.com (Wayne Schultz) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:46:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] gas Message-ID: <4DED2069.2020601@gmail.com> http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp From mgcharlie at comcast.net Mon Jun 6 13:08:09 2011 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 15:08:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6/3000 top frame In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DED2599.9010009@comcast.net> Does anyone know at what chassis number a change occurred with the top frames, going from a smaller cross section tube to larger, heavier tubes? There may be a difference in geometry too. This would be with the removable frames for a BT7, or maybe BN4. A friend had a lighter frame on his 3000 Mk. I and his top would not fit on it right, so maybe the geometry is different. Thanks Charlie On 6/6/2011 12:27 PM, S and T Miller wrote: > Hello all, I am requesting a favor. I bought a late 100-6/ early 3000 top > frame from Carlisle Import swap meet this year with the legs cut off. This is > the type with the bent legs and tapered bottom section. I want to fabricate > the legs, but need a close up/ side view picture of this type of top frame > from the pivot points down. From the picture I should be able to calculate > the measurements/ bends of the missing legs. So I need a really clear > complete (in one picture) straight on shot of the lower half. Would also need > some part of the rectangle folding pieces in the picture so that I could also > use that as a "known" measurement. > Thanks, Shawn > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Jun 6 13:10:53 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 15:10:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad In-Reply-To: References: <8CDF27E510E70DC-17F4-3C903@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <036401cc247d$7563f9e0$602beda0$@verizon.net> This has been beat to death on this list and others year after year. Fact remains that regardless of the brand in a particular area, the gas all comes from one or two refineries in the area. The particular item cited has been around since 2005 and has been repeatedly debunked by Snopes.com. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From: Richard Kahn [mailto:tahoehealey at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 2:27 PM To: akronzips at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net; ahbn6 at verizon.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad I am probably wrong but I thought that BP, Amoco, Arco and Mobil were all the same company. I had hear this when BP was being "avoided" due to the gulf oil spill. Rich Kahn > To: Healeys at autox.team.net; ahbn6 at verizon.net > From: akronzips at aol.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:31:27 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad > > John: > Just a short note I saw the Sunoco gas station ad the other day here in > Northeast Ohio . Yep really neat ad. > Sunoco gas is the only pur American crude oil gasoline not bought from the > Arabs or south America > > > > JUST READ BELOW THIS IS NOT AN AD FOR GAS ------THIS IS AN AD FOR AMERICANS TO > BUY AMERICAN.MADE FUEL!!!! From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:12:55 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:12:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system In-Reply-To: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> References: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Steve-- I bought an aluminum recovery tank at a local speed shop and installed it on the 100. It is plumbed so that any coolant in it will be drawn back into the radiator on shut-down. I cannot give you a manufacturer or part number but it is one-quart capacity and has a syphon tube going in the top to the bottom with an overflow near the top. Best--Michael Oritt On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:19 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Hello, Healeyphiles - > > Has anyone installed a coolant recovery system using generic hardware from > the local auto parts store? > I installed a recovery system in my BJ8 using the brass recovery tank from > a > junkyard MG Midget. Someone saw my article about my system and wants to > install a similar system in a '65 Midget, but doesn't want to spring for a > new MG tank ($$). I seem to recall a discussion on the list some time ago > about using a generic tank from Autozone, Pep Boys, etc. I have no > experience with the plastic tanks, so thought I would ask for input from > the > list. > > Thanks! > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jun 6 13:22:12 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 21:22:12 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system In-Reply-To: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> References: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4DED28E4.4060403@chello.nl> Have a look at the overflow tank from an Audi or VW in a junk yard. They are a round plastic sphere with a pressure cap. The pressure for the valve in the filler cap to open is way to high for the cooling system of the Healey so you should modify it. I have used one in the past and just removed the sealing O-ring in the cap to make the overflow tank pressure-less. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From wilkmanracing at aol.com Mon Jun 6 13:23:14 2011 From: wilkmanracing at aol.com (wilkmanracing at aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:23:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system In-Reply-To: References: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <2effeed2-06c9-45de-b0ad-22965ae5b862@blur> Doesn't the operation of the recovery tank depend upon an alteration to the radiator cap or a different type of cap? Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Michael Oritt To: BJ8 Healeys Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 19:13:17 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system Steve-- I bought an aluminum recovery tank at a local speed shop and installed it on the 100. It is plumbed so that any coolant in it will be drawn back into the radiator on shut-down. I cannot give you a manufacturer or part number but it is one-quart capacity and has a syphon tube going in the top to the bottom with an overflow near the top. Best--Michael Oritt On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:19 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Hello, Healeyphiles - > > Has anyone installed a coolant recovery system using generic hardware from > the local auto parts store? > I installed a recovery system in my BJ8 using the brass recovery tank from > a > junkyard MG Midget. Someone saw my article about my system and wants to > install a similar system in a '65 Midget, but doesn't want to spring for a > new MG tank ($$). I seem to recall a discussion on the list some time ago > about using a generic tank from Autozone, Pep Boys, etc. I have no > experience with the plastic tanks, so thought I would ask for input from > the > list. > > Thanks! > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/wilkmanracing at aol.com From barrie at look.ca Mon Jun 6 13:45:37 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 15:45:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system In-Reply-To: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> References: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> Message-ID: I would not trust a plastic tank for an area that needs some reliability. I have had two "top of the line" plastic washer fluid tanks split in less than two years. Had that been coolant...................aaauughhhh !! At 02:19 PM 6/6/2011, BJ8 Healeys wrote: >Hello, Healeyphiles - > >Has anyone installed a coolant recovery system using generic hardware from >the local auto parts store? >I installed a recovery system in my BJ8 using the brass recovery tank from a >junkyard MG Midget. Someone saw my article about my system and wants to >install a similar system in a '65 Midget, but doesn't want to spring for a >new MG tank ($$). I seem to recall a discussion on the list some time ago >about using a generic tank from Autozone, Pep Boys, etc. I have no >experience with the plastic tanks, so thought I would ask for input from the >list. > >Thanks! > >Steve Byers >HBJ8L/36666 >BJ8 Registry >Havelock, NC >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From JPayne at ThorCon.net Mon Jun 6 13:57:05 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:57:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 AH BJ8 Crankshaft Part Needed Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62765@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> At the 1st of the year, I began the restoration of my 2nd AH 3000. I purchased the car last spring, and the PO indicated that he had taken the car off the road in 1996 or so due to what he believed to be a rod knocking. My machinist has just called me and given me the verdict on the engine as follows: Cyl Head: No Cracks, good shape. Cyl. Head needs new guides and seats, needs to be "decked" for flatness - that's it. Rocker shaft, rocker arms, valves, springs and pushrods are all "excellent". Engine: Generally good, shows signs of very high mileage/use based on taper of bores, condition of pistons/rings and piston to wall clearance - wonder what the compression was when pulled and if it burned oil. The "knocking" that caused the prior owner to pull the car off the road was caused by an oil restrictor in the crankshaft oil gallery that apparently came loose and trashed the #3 rod bearing. No damage to the crank, just the bearing. So, the following machine work is needed: Need to bore the cylinder walls +40 THOU. Crank Main is at +10, needs to go to +20 Cam is great, lifters are good, and can be reconditioned. Rod small ends are at +10, need to go to +20 Need to resurface the flywheel Thus we get to the question - Anybody know where find a brass oil gallery restrictor for #3 or have one made ? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From derek.c.job at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 14:01:05 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:01:05 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6/3000 top frame In-Reply-To: <4DED2599.9010009@comcast.net> References: <4DED2599.9010009@comcast.net> Message-ID: Charlie The geometry is different. You can see the difference in this photo of the two types of hood frames. The later model is the one on the left with the thicker bars that fit directly in into the same holes that are used for the tonneau cover. 3000 Car number 1529 is the cut off point. This is the link http://www.healeysix.net/Longbridge%20Top.htm Derek On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Charlie Baldwin wrote: > Does anyone know at what chassis number a change occurred with the top > frames, going from a smaller cross section tube to larger, heavier > tubes? There may be a difference in geometry too. > This would be with the removable frames for a BT7, or maybe BN4. > A friend had a lighter frame on his 3000 Mk. I and his top would not fit > on it right, so maybe the geometry is different. > Thanks > Charlie > > On 6/6/2011 12:27 PM, S and T Miller wrote: > > Hello all, I am requesting a favor. I bought a late 100-6/ early 3000 > top > > frame from Carlisle Import swap meet this year with the legs cut off. > This is > > the type with the bent legs and tapered bottom section. I want to > fabricate > > the legs, but need a close up/ side view picture of this type of top > frame > > from the pivot points down. From the picture I should be able to > calculate > > the measurements/ bends of the missing legs. So I need a really clear > > complete (in one picture) straight on shot of the lower half. Would also > need > > some part of the rectangle folding pieces in the picture so that I could > also > > use that as a "known" measurement. > > Thanks, Shawn > > > > The Millers > > "British Car Nuts" > > > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > > drive." > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name > of mgcharlie.vcf] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Mon Jun 6 14:05:56 2011 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:05:56 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 AH BJ8 Crankshaft Part Needed In-Reply-To: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62765@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62765@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <6EAE4112-168C-4E21-8081-7B0ED316C021@bornet.net> Denis Welch has them. Magnus Karlsson www.concourshealeys.com 6 jun 2011 kl. 21.57 skrev Jonas Payne: > At the 1st of the year, I began the restoration of my 2nd AH 3000. > > I purchased the car last spring, and the PO indicated that he had taken > the car off the road in 1996 or so due to what he believed to be a rod > knocking. > > My machinist has just called me and given me the verdict on the engine > as follows: > > > Cyl Head: > > No Cracks, good shape. > > Cyl. Head needs new guides and seats, needs to be "decked" for flatness > - that's it. > > Rocker shaft, rocker arms, valves, springs and pushrods are all > "excellent". > > Engine: > > Generally good, shows signs of very high mileage/use based on taper of > bores, condition of pistons/rings and piston to wall clearance - wonder > what the compression was when pulled and if it burned oil. > > The "knocking" that caused the prior owner to pull the car off the road > was caused by an oil restrictor in the crankshaft oil gallery that > apparently came loose and trashed the #3 rod bearing. No damage to the > crank, just the bearing. > > So, the following machine work is needed: > > Need to bore the cylinder walls +40 THOU. > > Crank Main is at +10, needs to go to +20 > > Cam is great, lifters are good, and can be reconditioned. > > Rod small ends are at +10, need to go to +20 > > Need to resurface the flywheel > > Thus we get to the question - > > > Anybody know where find a brass oil gallery restrictor for #3 or have > one made ? > > > > Jonas Payne > PBR > Cell: (702) 358-5084 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/magnuskarlsson at bornet.net From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 15:22:36 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 17:22:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system In-Reply-To: <2effeed2-06c9-45de-b0ad-22965ae5b862@blur> References: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> <2effeed2-06c9-45de-b0ad-22965ae5b862@blur> Message-ID: Not if it is used as a recovery tank--the coolant that goes into the tank because of expansion, etc. passes out through the existing overflow tube. Then when the coolant cools off and contracts it creates negative pressure or suction which draws in the little poppet valve in the radiator cap, drawing the coolant out of the expansion tank and back into the radiator. The cap you are presently using should have one of these valves in any case. Best--Michael Oritt -------------------------------------------- On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:23 PM, wilkmanracing at aol.com wrote: > Doesn't the operation of the recovery tank depend upon an alteration to the > radiator cap or a different type of cap? > > *Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless* > > > -----Original message----- > > *From: *Michael Oritt * > To: *BJ8 Healeys * > Cc: *healeys at autox.team.net* > Sent: *Mon, Jun 6, 2011 19:13:17 GMT+00:00* > Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system > > Steve-- > > I bought an aluminum recovery tank at a local speed shop and installed it > on > the 100. It is plumbed so that any coolant in it will be drawn back into > the radiator on shut-down. I cannot give you a manufacturer or part number > but it is one-quart capacity and has a syphon tube going in the top to the > bottom with an overflow near the top. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:19 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > > > Hello, Healeyphiles - > > > > Has anyone installed a coolant recovery system using generic hardware > from > > the local auto parts store? > > I installed a recovery system in my BJ8 using the brass recovery tank > from > > a > > junkyard MG Midget. Someone saw my article about my system and wants to > > install a similar system in a '65 Midget, but doesn't want to spring for > a > > new MG tank ($$). I seem to recall a discussion on the list some time ago > > about using a generic tank from Autozone, Pep Boys, etc. I have no > > experience with the plastic tanks, so thought I would ask for input from > > the > > list. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > Havelock, NC > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/wilkmanracing at aol.com From hubrick at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 15:56:09 2011 From: hubrick at gmail.com (Rick Huber) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 16:56:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Tuning for Summer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alan, Yes, that does sound like a good solution. It's too bad I didn't think of that before I put it all together over the last 3 years. I'm inclined to try to make do with less complicated / expensive / time consuming options before I go for coating the exhaust headers, but thanks for the great solution. Cheers, Rick On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Rick - > > Honestly the best solution to this problem is to take out your exhaust > header and have it Jet Hot coated with Extreme Sterling to cut down the > temps under the bonnet. The Intake manifold sits right on top of the > exhaust header and the only way to effectively reduce temps in under the > bonnet is by doing this. It's a bit of a job, but if you drive in a hot > climate it is well worth it. It really makes a noticeable difference. > > Alan > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Rick Huber wrote: > >> Thanks for the reply's. I'm thinking with my just rebuilt HD8's (only >> driven 2,000 miles since the restoration), I wouldn't have any wear or >> heat >> problems with the teflon bushings leaking air in. Since nobody said yes >> to >> my idea about changing the mixture in the summer heat, I'll go with >> insulating the fuel line. >> Cheers, >> Rick >> 64 BJ8 >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: >> http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jun 6 15:57:16 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 23:57:16 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system In-Reply-To: References: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> <2effeed2-06c9-45de-b0ad-22965ae5b862@blur> Message-ID: <4DED4D3C.6060201@chello.nl> The only thing you have to make sure that the rad cap is sealing properly on the radiator, so, if not already present, use a thin flat rubber ring to make the cap airtight. If not airtight the coolant will not be (fully) drawn back into the radiator when the engine cools of. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Jun 6 15:58:56 2011 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:58:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system In-Reply-To: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> References: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> Message-ID: My car has a generic recovery kit with a real ugly plastic tank from the previous owner. It's held onto the firewall with a powder-coated basket. It can be seen in this pic on my website: http://ewilkins.com/wilko/engine.htm Wilko On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:19 AM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Hello, Healeyphiles - > > Has anyone installed a coolant recovery system using generic > hardware from > the local auto parts store? > I installed a recovery system in my BJ8 using the brass recovery > tank from a > junkyard MG Midget. Someone saw my article about my system and > wants to > install a similar system in a '65 Midget, but doesn't want to spring > for a > new MG tank ($$). I seem to recall a discussion on the list some > time ago > about using a generic tank from Autozone, Pep Boys, etc. I have no > experience with the plastic tanks, so thought I would ask for input > from the > list. > > Thanks! From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 16:14:15 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 06:14:15 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Tuning for Summer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sent to just me by mistake. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barrie Robinson Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 12:52:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tuning for Summer To: Alan Seigrist I had enormous heat problems with MGB GT V8 - which is the penalty of a stonking big warmed-over Rover V8 in the small engine bay. But I found a bloke in Ontario who is one of three Ontario mechanics licensed to do ceramic coatings on airplane exhausts. I was amazed at his range of colours and I selected one close to the metallic golden beige that I used for my MGB !!! YES YES ....THE real BG19 as used on AHs !!!!!! He told me that that one had the best performance - the reds, blues etc were not so hot (oh I love a pun). He double coated the inside and single coated the outside. The difference was staggering and I would recommend any and all Healey owners to do it. If you have ever touched an exhaust manifold it will burn you - even the slightest touch, but when coated I was able to wet my finger and flick the manifold (don't do this at home because we are experts) with just a hot feeling but NO burn! It was cheaper than Jet Hot. Here is the contact details General Performance GP Engineering Brampton, Ontario 905-456-3113 416-473-3906 cell Rob Barnes At 12:15 AM 6/6/2011, you wrote: >Rick - > >Honestly the best solution to this problem is to take out your exhaust >header and have it Jet Hot coated with Extreme Sterling to cut down the >temps under the bonnet. The Intake manifold sits right on top of the >exhaust header and the only way to effectively reduce temps in under the >bonnet is by doing this. It's a bit of a job, but if you drive in a hot >climate it is well worth it. It really makes a noticeable difference. > >Alan > >On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Rick Huber wrote: > > > Thanks for the reply's. I'm thinking with my just rebuilt HD8's (only > > driven 2,000 miles since the restoration), I wouldn't have any wear or heat > > problems with the teflon bushings leaking air in. Since nobody said yes to > > my idea about changing the mixture in the summer heat, I'll go with > > insulating the fuel line. > > Cheers, > > Rick > > 64 BJ8 > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 -- Sent from my mobile device From barrie at look.ca Sun Jun 5 08:11:40 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 10:11:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Please take a look at this article I saw on http://www.classicdriver.com: In-Reply-To: <8CDF14BB19CDAC3-1BB8-23036@webmail-d167.sysops.aol.com> References: <20110603215540.URMK22406.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> <8CDF14BB19CDAC3-1BB8-23036@webmail-d167.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: There was tons of aluminium sheet metal around after WWII and the cry in Britain those days was "Export or Die". So car manufacturers got the stuff as they were exporting like mad. While restoring the spare wheel tray, a complex structure, of my 1955 Aston I found that this material was magnesium-aluminium alloy. Not surprising when you consider that the Mg/Al stuff was formulated for war. My tray needed repair so I took it to a master welding chap. After many attempts he gave up. He said he needed the right rods and his rod supplier did not have them. To my shame I repaired with JB Weld - which to my delight accepted powder painting !!! SO it might be that your shroud is the Mg/Al stuff, If you cannot find the correct welding rods I can give you a few places which may have them. By the way, the British unions were a little hard of hearing and thought the cry was "Exploit and Die". They did exploit and they did die. Success is reflected in the marques Rolls-Royce, MG, Bentley, Aston Martin. and Land Rover. At 11:56 PM 6/4/2011, akronzips at aol.com wrote: >Very interesting and free magazine subscription. >Be sure to check out the "The men on the ribbon of salt" Ab Jenkins wow >whatb a driver. > >Anyone have any secrets to welding the front cowl and boot on a Healey 1961 >aluminium? >I have so small holes that need mending >also the www.Boysofbonneville.com >I just thought you all might find this interesting. >Howard In Ohio >akronzips at aol.com >1961 BT7 3000 > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Morris >To: Morris, Howard ; Ashley, Jim ; >Lodge, Rich ; Chuck/Linda Fleming ; >McPhillips, Frank/Dorothy ; Johnson, William >; Thom/Marge Hobbs ; Bob O'Connor >; Clifton Smith ; Bob Wayman >; Smith, Mark/Joyce ; >Hillabrant,Joel/Jill ; Jeff Feiner ; >Rodney Vincent >Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 5:55 pm >Subject: Please take a look at this article I saw on >http://www.classicdriver.com: > > >http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=15138 >ate: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:55:49 -0700 >essage-ID: <00a001cc2239$0015a300$0040e900$@cox.net> >IME-Version: 1.0 >ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; >boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380" >-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 >hread-Index: AcwiOJxGGT3FfZKIQn+6dcjHzpjPxA== >ontent-Language: en-us >This is a multipart message in MIME format. >------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380 >ontent-Type: text/plain; >charset="us-ascii" >ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Please take a look at this article I saw on http://www.classicdriver.com: >ome history in a DVD about Bonneville Salt Flats, just a 3 minute clip. >http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=15138 > >-----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380 >ontent-Type: text/html; >charset="us-ascii" >ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Please take a look at this = rticle I saw on >http://www.classicdriver.com: Some history = n a DVD about >Bonneville Salt Flats, just a 3 minute = lip. > >htt= ://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=3D15138 = o:p> >-----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380-- >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca (705) 721-9060 From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Mon Jun 6 16:55:20 2011 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:55:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system In-Reply-To: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> References: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <68E57851323047F489C998FECC32C75F@LeonardPCPC> Steve: I have had a coolant recovery system in my BJ8 for years. It is located in the triangular shaped vacant space above and in front of the passenger foot well in the engine compartment (where the master cylinders would be on a right-hand drive car). Check O'-Reilly (or Kragen - same company now) for Coolant Recovery Tank (Universal). Or, look for Part No. BVR4, Interdynamics Coolant Recovery System. $12.49. It is a square plastic bottle and comes with plastic hose. For an MG Midget, there is a flatter bottle, Model MCR3, narrower container in rectangular design, $8.99. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJ8 Healeys" To: Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system > Hello, Healeyphiles - > > Has anyone installed a coolant recovery system using generic hardware from > the local auto parts store? > I installed a recovery system in my BJ8 using the brass recovery tank from > a > junkyard MG Midget. Someone saw my article about my system and wants to > install a similar system in a '65 Midget, but doesn't want to spring for a > new MG tank ($$). I seem to recall a discussion on the list some time ago > about using a generic tank from Autozone, Pep Boys, etc. I have no > experience with the plastic tanks, so thought I would ask for input from > the > list. > > Thanks! > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net From akronzips at aol.com Mon Jun 6 17:59:24 2011 From: akronzips at aol.com (akronzips at aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Please take a look at this article I saw on http://www.classicdriver.com: Message-ID: <8CDF2BCE52B5832-11AC-10A41@webmail-m100.sysops.aol.com> Thanks for your reply Barrie: Is there or was there a rod a low temperature rod that could be used ? I had an interesting email from Ira and he suggested Alumibond . It's out of Bradenton , Fla. 1.Prefa aluminium brazing sticks was one guys suggestion Would these work on Mag/Alum 2.http://www.alumiweld.com Was Ira's suggestion. $33.00 for 20 18" rods I hope I can find a solution quickly my painter is waiting on these two parts. Thanks Howard\ in Akron akronzips at aol.com magnesium-aluminium alloy. -----Original Message----- From: Barrie Robinson To: akronzips ; Healeys Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:29 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Please take a look at this article I saw on http://www.classicdriver.com: There was tons of aluminium sheet metal around after WWII and the cry in Britain those days was "Export or Die". So car manufacturers got the stuff as they were exporting like mad. While restoring the spare wheel tray, a complex structure, of my 1955 Aston I found that this material was magnesium-aluminium alloy. Not surprising when you consider that the Mg/Al stuff was formulated for war. My tray needed repair so I took it to a master welding chap. After many attempts he gave up. He said he needed the right rods and his rod supplier did not have them. To my shame I repaired with JB Weld - which to my delight accepted powder painting !!! SO it might be that your shroud is the Mg/Al stuff, If you cannot find the correct welding rods I can give you a few places which may have them. By the way, the British unions were a little hard of hearing and thought the cry was "Exploit and Die". They did exploit and they did die. Success is reflected in the marques Rolls-Royce, MG, Bentley, Aston Martin. and Land Rover. At 11:56 PM 6/4/2011, akronzips at aol.com wrote: Very interesting and free magazine subscription. Be sure to check out the "The men on the ribbon of salt" Ab Jenkins wow whatb a driver. Anyone have any secrets to welding the front cowl and boot on a Healey 1961 aluminium? I have so small holes that need mending also the www.Boysofbonneville.com I just thought you all might find this interesting. Howard In Ohio akronzips at aol.com 1961 BT7 3000 -----Original Message----- From: Robert Morris To: Morris, Howard ; Ashley, Jim ; Lodge, Rich ; Chuck/Linda Fleming ; McPhillips, Frank/Dorothy ; Johnson, William ; Thom/Marge Hobbs ; Bob O'Connor ; Clifton Smith ; Bob Wayman ; Smith, Mark/Joyce ; Hillabrant,Joel/Jill ; Jeff Feiner ; Rodney Vincent Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 5:55 pm Subject: Please take a look at this article I saw on http://www.classicdriver.com: http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=15138 ate: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:55:49 -0700 essage-ID: <00a001cc2239$0015a300$0040e900$@cox.net> IME-Version: 1.0 ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380" -Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 hread-Index: AcwiOJxGGT3FfZKIQn+6dcjHzpjPxA== ontent-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380 ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please take a look at this article I saw on http://www.classicdriver.com: ome history in a DVD about Bonneville Salt Flats, just a 3 minute clip. http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=15138 -----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380 ontent-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please take a look at this = rticle I saw on http://www.classicdriver.com: Some history = n a DVD about Bonneville Salt Flats, just a 3 minute = lip. htt= ://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=3D15138 = o:p> -----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380-- _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca (705) 721-9060 From steveg at abrazosdata.com Mon Jun 6 18:42:23 2011 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:42:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Coolant_Recovery_-_generic_tank?= Message-ID: <20110607004223.17556.qmail@hoster902.com> >From an auto parts store, I bought a cheap plastic coolant tank with an input at the bottom and a vent at the top. It came with a thin rubber gasket as shown in this picture: http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/image/126925316 I trimmed it slightly to fit inside the stock 7lb cap and connected the overflow hose to the bottom of the coolant tank above. When the engine cools down, it sucks the coolant back out of the tank into the radiator header tank. This setup's been working for years. Steve Byers wrote: >>> Has anyone installed a coolant recovery system using generic hardware from the local auto parts store? I installed a recovery system in my BJ8 using the brass recovery tank from a junkyard MG Midget. Someone saw my article about my system and wants to install a similar system in a '65 Midget, but doesn't want to spring for a new MG tank ($$). I seem to recall a discussion on the list some time ago about using a generic tank from Autozone, Pep Boys, etc. I have no experience with the plastic tanks, so thought I would ask for input from the list. -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA BN6 From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 19:41:17 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:41:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant Recovery - generic tank In-Reply-To: <20110607004223.17556.qmail@hoster902.com> References: <20110607004223.17556.qmail@hoster902.com> Message-ID: Go here to see the billet aluminum recovery tank I have in my 100: *http://tinyurl.com/3my3hq6* * * The tank is mounted to the right side shroud support just outboard of the alternator. I had the overflow tube from the radiator switched to the right side of the neck and plumbed the tank with a short piece of plastic tubing. Best--Michael Oritt --------------------------- On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Steve B. Gerow wrote: > From an auto parts store, I bought a cheap plastic coolant tank with an > input at the bottom and a vent at the top. > > It came with a thin rubber gasket as shown in this picture: > http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/image/126925316 > > I trimmed it slightly to fit inside the stock 7lb cap and connected the > overflow hose to the bottom of the coolant tank above. > > When the engine cools down, it sucks the coolant back out of the tank into > the radiator header tank. > > This setup's been working for years. > > Steve Byers wrote: > >>> > Has anyone installed a coolant recovery system using generic hardware from > the local auto parts store? > I installed a recovery system in my BJ8 using the brass recovery tank from > a > junkyard MG Midget. Someone saw my article about my system and wants to > install a similar system in a '65 Midget, but doesn't want to spring for a > new MG tank ($$). I seem to recall a discussion on the list some time ago > about using a generic tank from Autozone, Pep Boys, etc. I have no > experience with the plastic tanks, so thought I would ask for input from > the > list. > > > -- > Steve Gerow > Altadena, CA > BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Jun 6 22:17:38 2011 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric Wilkins) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:17:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Coolant recovery system In-Reply-To: <4DED4D3C.6060201@chello.nl> References: <002f01cc2476$39522f50$abf68df0$@rr.com> <2effeed2-06c9-45de-b0ad-22965ae5b862@blur> <4DED4D3C.6060201@chello.nl> Message-ID: <43087B8B-AD25-45DF-91B0-6F3EB78D5883@cox.net> My car has a generic recovery kit with a real ugly plastic tank from the previous owner. It's held onto the firewall with a powder-coated basket. It can be seen in this pic on my website: http://ewilkins.com/wilko/engine.htm Wilko On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:19 AM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Hello, Healeyphiles - > > Has anyone installed a coolant recovery system using generic > hardware from > the local auto parts store? > I installed a recovery system in my BJ8 using the brass recovery > tank from a > junkyard MG Midget. Someone saw my article about my system and > wants to > install a similar system in a '65 Midget, but doesn't want to spring > for a > new MG tank ($$). I seem to recall a discussion on the list some > time ago > about using a generic tank from Autozone, Pep Boys, etc. I have no > experience with the plastic tanks, so thought I would ask for input > from the > list. > > Thanks! From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 23:24:10 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:24:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] heater water valve Message-ID: I bought what was sold as a NOS valve for my BT7 heater. It does not seat against the o ring and base. It bottoms out on the tube. I am figuring to cut down the pipe, but want to find out if I'm missing something? It stops about 1/8" short. I used a dead blow hammer but the internal valve hits the pipe. Thanks -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From barrie at look.ca Mon Jun 6 23:35:28 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 01:35:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Please take a look at this article I saw on http://www.classicdriver.com: In-Reply-To: <8CDF2BCE52B5832-11AC-10A41@webmail-m100.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CDF2BCE52B5832-11AC-10A41@webmail-m100.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Sorry Howard you have my complete info - I have no idea what rods are out there, You could try Aston Service Dorset At 07:59 PM 6/6/2011, akronzips at aol.com wrote: >Thanks for your reply Barrie: >Is there or was there a rod a low temperature rod that could be used >? I had an interesting email from Ira and he suggested Alumibond . >It's out of Bradenton , Fla. > >1.Prefa aluminium brazing sticks was one guys suggestion Would these >work on Mag/Alum > >2.http://www.alumiweld.com Was Ira's >suggestion. $33.00 for 20 18" rods > >I hope I can find a solution quickly my painter is waiting on these two parts. >Thanks >Howard\ in Akron >akronzips at aol.com >magnesium-aluminium alloy. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Barrie Robinson >To: akronzips ; Healeys >Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:29 pm >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Please take a look at this article I saw >on http://www.classicdriver.com: > >There was tons of aluminium sheet metal around after WWII and the >cry in Britain those days was "Export or Die". So car manufacturers >got the stuff as they were exporting like mad. While restoring the >spare wheel tray, a complex structure, of my 1955 Aston I found that >this material was magnesium-aluminium alloy. Not surprising when >you consider that the Mg/Al stuff was formulated for war. My tray >needed repair so I took it to a master welding chap. After many >attempts he gave up. He said he needed the right rods and his rod >supplier did not have them. To my shame I repaired with JB Weld - >which to my delight accepted powder painting !!! SO it might be >that your shroud is the Mg/Al stuff, If you cannot find the >correct welding rods I can give you a few places which may have them. > >By the way, the British unions were a little hard of hearing and >thought the cry was "Exploit and Die". They did exploit and they >did die. Success is reflected in the marques Rolls-Royce, MG, >Bentley, Aston Martin. and Land Rover. > > >At 11:56 PM 6/4/2011, akronzips at aol.com wrote: >>Very interesting and free magazine subscription. >>Be sure to check out the "The men on the ribbon of salt" Ab Jenkins wow >>whatb a driver. >> >>Anyone have any secrets to welding the front cowl and boot on a Healey 1961 >>aluminium? >>I have so small holes that need mending >>also the www.Boysofbonneville.com >>I just thought you all might find this interesting. >>Howard In Ohio >>akronzips at aol.com >>1961 BT7 3000 >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Robert Morris >>To: Morris, Howard ; Ashley, Jim ; >>Lodge, Rich ; Chuck/Linda Fleming ; >>McPhillips, Frank/Dorothy ; Johnson, William >>; Thom/Marge Hobbs ; Bob O'Connor >>; Clifton Smith ; Bob Wayman >>; Smith, Mark/Joyce ; >>Hillabrant,Joel/Jill ; Jeff Feiner ; >>Rodney Vincent >>Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 5:55 pm >>Subject: Please take a look at this article I saw on >>http://www.classicdriver.com: >> >> >>http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=15138 >>ate: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:55:49 -0700 >>essage-ID: <00a001cc2239$0015a300$0040e900$@cox.net> >>IME-Version: 1.0 >>ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; >>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380" >>-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 >>hread-Index: AcwiOJxGGT3FfZKIQn+6dcjHzpjPxA== >>ontent-Language: en-us >>This is a multipart message in MIME format. >>------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380 >>ontent-Type: text/plain; >>charset="us-ascii" >>ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Please take a look at this article I saw on http://www.classicdriver.com: >>ome history in a DVD about Bonneville Salt Flats, just a 3 minute clip. >>http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=15138 >> >>-----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380 >>ontent-Type: text/html; >>charset="us-ascii" >>ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >>Please take a look at this = rticle I saw on >>http://www.classicdriver.com: Some history = n a DVD about >>Bonneville Salt Flats, just a 3 minute = lip. >> >>htt= ://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=3D15138 = o:p> >>-----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01CC21FE.53B80380-- >>_______________________________________________ >>Healeys at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca >Regards > >Barrie >barrie at look.ca >(705) 721-9060 Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From ruvino at ripnet.com Tue Jun 7 07:00:45 2011 From: ruvino at ripnet.com (Dr. C. Rubino) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:00:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] coolant recovery Message-ID: Many years ago while living in Toronto I used to have significant problems with overheating and losing coolant in July and August while waiting at stop lights. Solved the problem by installing an electric fan controlled by a variable thermostat. Havnbt had a problem since. Carl 1957 BN-4 (Longbridge) From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 7 09:03:56 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:03:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] heater water valve In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do not cut the pipe. The aluminium adaptor is attached to the top of the heater box with a star clip that has probalby slipped. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:24 PM, I Erbs wrote: > I bought what was sold as a NOS valve for my BT7 heater. It does > not seat > against the o ring and base. > It bottoms out on the tube. I am figuring to cut down the pipe, but > want to > find out if I'm missing something? > It stops about 1/8" short. I used a dead blow hammer but the > internal valve > hits the pipe. > Thanks > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From jstmorris at yahoo.com Tue Jun 7 12:49:41 2011 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad In-Reply-To: <036401cc247d$7563f9e0$602beda0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <692243.43538.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> And I can confirm this from personal experience in the 60's. Back in the mid 60's I worked for a British American Oil [BA]* refinery in Clarkson, Ontario. Among the jobs I did, one was in the 'Scale House' in which we weighed all the truck tankers in & out. We had brand tankers and general tankers in all the time. Even with the general tankers, one of the items we logged was the destination. Short line: various companies and/or brands all used the closest refinery. * which became Gulf Canada and then Petro Canada --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --- On Mon, 6/6/11, John Sims wrote: From: John Sims Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad To: "'Richard Kahn'" , akronzips at aol.com, healeys at autox.team.net Received: Monday, June 6, 2011, 3:10 PM This has been beat to death on this list and others year after year. Fact remains that regardless of the brand in a particular area, the gas all comes from one or two refineries in the area. The particular item cited has been around since 2005 and has been repeatedly debunked by Snopes.com. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From: Richard Kahn [mailto:tahoehealey at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 2:27 PM To: akronzips at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net; ahbn6 at verizon.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad I am probably wrong but I thought that BP, Amoco, Arco and Mobil were all the same company. I had hear this when BP was being "avoided" due to the gulf oil spill. Rich Kahn > To: Healeys at autox.team.net; ahbn6 at verizon.net > From: akronzips at aol.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:31:27 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad > John: > Just a short note I saw the Sunoco gas station ad the other day here in > Northeast Ohio . Yep really neat ad. > Sunoco gas is the only pur American crude oil gasoline not bought from the > Arabs or south America > > JUST READ BELOW THIS IS NOT AN AD FOR GAS ------THIS IS AN AD FOR AMERICANS TO BUY AMERICAN.MADE FUEL!!!! From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jun 7 13:47:57 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 21:47:57 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad In-Reply-To: <692243.43538.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <692243.43538.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DEE806D.4000601@chello.nl> Op 7-6-2011 20:49, J. Scott Morris schreef: > --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, > Murphy Lives > Correct, I married the girl in 1974. Kees Oudesluijs [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From rfinn1 at comcast.net Tue Jun 7 14:13:43 2011 From: rfinn1 at comcast.net (Richard Finn) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:13:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad In-Reply-To: <036401cc247d$7563f9e0$602beda0$@verizon.net> References: <8CDF27E510E70DC-17F4-3C903@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> <036401cc247d$7563f9e0$602beda0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <004501cc254f$668b48b0$33a1da10$@net> I heard George Soros owned Snopes.com RMF -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:11 PM To: 'Richard Kahn'; akronzips at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad This has been beat to death on this list and others year after year. Fact remains that regardless of the brand in a particular area, the gas all comes from one or two refineries in the area. The particular item cited has been around since 2005 and has been repeatedly debunked by Snopes.com. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From: Richard Kahn [mailto:tahoehealey at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 2:27 PM To: akronzips at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net; ahbn6 at verizon.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad I am probably wrong but I thought that BP, Amoco, Arco and Mobil were all the same company. I had hear this when BP was being "avoided" due to the gulf oil spill. Rich Kahn > To: Healeys at autox.team.net; ahbn6 at verizon.net > From: akronzips at aol.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:31:27 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad > > John: > Just a short note I saw the Sunoco gas station ad the other day here in > Northeast Ohio . Yep really neat ad. > Sunoco gas is the only pur American crude oil gasoline not bought from the > Arabs or south America > > > > JUST READ BELOW THIS IS NOT AN AD FOR GAS ------THIS IS AN AD FOR AMERICANS TO > BUY AMERICAN.MADE FUEL!!!! _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rfinn1 at comcast.net From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Jun 7 14:32:53 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 16:32:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad In-Reply-To: <004501cc254f$668b48b0$33a1da10$@net> References: <8CDF27E510E70DC-17F4-3C903@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> <036401cc247d$7563f9e0$602beda0$@verizon.net> <004501cc254f$668b48b0$33a1da10$@net> Message-ID: <03d401cc2552$145bd390$3d137ab0$@verizon.net> Do your research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: Richard Finn [mailto:rfinn1 at comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:14 PM To: 'John Sims'; 'Richard Kahn'; akronzips at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad I heard George Soros owned Snopes.com RMF -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:11 PM To: 'Richard Kahn'; akronzips at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad This has been beat to death on this list and others year after year. Fact remains that regardless of the brand in a particular area, the gas all comes from one or two refineries in the area. The particular item cited has been around since 2005 and has been repeatedly debunked by Snopes.com. From michael.oritt at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 14:41:07 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:41:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad In-Reply-To: <004501cc254f$668b48b0$33a1da10$@net> References: <8CDF27E510E70DC-17F4-3C903@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> <036401cc247d$7563f9e0$602beda0$@verizon.net> <004501cc254f$668b48b0$33a1da10$@net> Message-ID: Nope--just snoped it. Go here: http://www.snopes.com/info/aboutus.asp Best--Michael Oritt On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Richard Finn wrote: > I heard George Soros owned Snopes.com > > RMF > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of John Sims > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:11 PM > To: 'Richard Kahn'; akronzips at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad > > This has been beat to death on this list and others year after year. Fact > remains that regardless of the brand in a particular area, the gas all > comes > from one or two refineries in the area. The particular item cited has been > around since 2005 and has been repeatedly debunked by Snopes.com. > > > > John Sims, BN6 > > Aberdeen, NJ > > > > http://www.healey6.com > > > > From: Richard Kahn [mailto:tahoehealey at hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 2:27 PM > To: akronzips at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net; ahbn6 at verizon.net > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad > > > > I am probably wrong but I thought that BP, Amoco, Arco and Mobil were all > the same company. I had hear this when BP was being "avoided" due to the > gulf oil spill. > Rich Kahn > > > To: Healeys at autox.team.net; ahbn6 at verizon.net > > From: akronzips at aol.com > > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:31:27 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad > > > > John: > > Just a short note I saw the Sunoco gas station ad the other day here in > > Northeast Ohio . Yep really neat ad. > > Sunoco gas is the only pur American crude oil gasoline not bought from > the > > Arabs or south America > > > > > > > > JUST READ BELOW THIS IS NOT AN AD FOR GAS ------THIS IS AN AD FOR > AMERICANS TO > > BUY AMERICAN.MADE FUEL!!!! > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rfinn1 at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From rfinn1 at comcast.net Tue Jun 7 14:56:02 2011 From: rfinn1 at comcast.net (Richard Finn) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:56:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad In-Reply-To: <03d401cc2552$145bd390$3d137ab0$@verizon.net> References: <8CDF27E510E70DC-17F4-3C903@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> <036401cc247d$7563f9e0$602beda0$@verizon.net> <004501cc254f$668b48b0$33a1da10$@net> <03d401cc2552$145bd390$3d137ab0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <006401cc2555$4fbbfe30$ef33fa90$@net> You are correct - not owned by Soros -----Original Message----- From: John Sims [mailto:ahbn6 at verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:33 PM To: 'Richard Finn'; 'Richard Kahn'; akronzips at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad Do your research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: Richard Finn [mailto:rfinn1 at comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:14 PM To: 'John Sims'; 'Richard Kahn'; akronzips at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad I heard George Soros owned Snopes.com RMF -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:11 PM To: 'Richard Kahn'; akronzips at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sunoco Ad This has been beat to death on this list and others year after year. Fact remains that regardless of the brand in a particular area, the gas all comes from one or two refineries in the area. The particular item cited has been around since 2005 and has been repeatedly debunked by Snopes.com. From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 17:49:20 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:49:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] heater valve fixed Message-ID: Dave Nock called. I was able to adjust the height of the panel and then screw down the valve body to seat in the O ring, Will install the heater tonight. Driver's side floor has been insulated. Seat tracks have been cleaned and lubed. -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From editor_reid at hotmail.com Wed Jun 8 00:24:11 2011 From: editor_reid at hotmail.com (Reid Trummel) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 23:24:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Seeking John Fitch Contact Message-ID: Could anyone give me an address or email address for John Fitch, former team driver? Thanks in advance. Reid TrummelPortland, Oregon, USA From ktee20 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 02:38:31 2011 From: ktee20 at gmail.com (keith taylor) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:38:31 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Paeco Headers Message-ID: Any comments on this company & their Headers for a BN2 Keith Taylor OZ From coll44 at msn.com Wed Jun 8 07:32:26 2011 From: coll44 at msn.com (TERRY COLL) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 09:32:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] headlight relays In-Reply-To: <692243.43538.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <036401cc247d$7563f9e0$602beda0$@verizon.net>, <692243.43538.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I want to install headlight relays in my '64 BJ8. Does it make a difference if headlight relays are grounded? I've seen the grounded ones on-line but I really can't see the need. Terry Coll '64 BJ8 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Jun 8 08:58:15 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:58:15 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] headlight relays In-Reply-To: References: <036401cc247d$7563f9e0$602beda0$@verizon.net>, <692243.43538.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DEF8E07.3090804@chello.nl> Does not make a difference. Installing them will save some wiring. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 09:01:37 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 08:01:37 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] another heater question Message-ID: I am installing my heater today. do I need to have a gasket or ? between the back air opening and the bulkhead? If so is it foam stuff or a gasket? Can I use the Dynamat type stuff to fill the gap? Thanks. 20 days to Rendezvous. still need to: hook up heater and wire harness get carbs back form rebuilder, install, hook up cable throttle, finish door locks and hang doors, install seats..... sort out any starting/electrical issues.... Plus I have just begun a new business partnership and I am working during the day..... at least my family knows where I am at night :) -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From javrugtman at htcnet.org Wed Jun 8 10:05:23 2011 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:05:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] another heater question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DEF9DC3.3070201@htcnet.org> there was a foam gasket on mine, dried out of course, so replaced it with same. John 64/66 BJ8s On 6/8/2011 11:01 AM, I Erbs wrote: > I am installing my heater today. > do I need to have a gasket or ? between the back air opening and the > bulkhead? If so is it foam stuff or a gasket? Can I use the Dynamat type > stuff to fill the gap? > Thanks. 20 days to Rendezvous. > still need to: > hook up heater and wire harness > get carbs back form rebuilder, install, hook up cable throttle, > finish door locks and hang doors, > install seats..... > sort out any starting/electrical issues.... > Plus I have just begun a new business partnership and I am working during > the day..... > at least my family knows where I am at night :) From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 11:40:55 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:40:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] another heater question In-Reply-To: <4DEF9DC3.3070201@htcnet.org> References: <4DEF9DC3.3070201@htcnet.org> Message-ID: I figured, thanks Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 8, 2011 9:18 AM, "John Vrugtman" wrote: > there was a foam gasket on mine, dried out of course, so replaced it > with same. > > John > 64/66 BJ8s > > On 6/8/2011 11:01 AM, I Erbs wrote: >> I am installing my heater today. >> do I need to have a gasket or ? between the back air opening and the >> bulkhead? If so is it foam stuff or a gasket? Can I use the Dynamat type >> stuff to fill the gap? >> Thanks. 20 days to Rendezvous. >> still need to: >> hook up heater and wire harness >> get carbs back form rebuilder, install, hook up cable throttle, >> finish door locks and hang doors, >> install seats..... >> sort out any starting/electrical issues.... >> Plus I have just begun a new business partnership and I am working during >> the day..... >> at least my family knows where I am at night :) > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 13:06:13 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:06:13 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Help re installation of Moto-Lita wheel AND horn push on adjustable column. Message-ID: Guys I began the installation today. Unscrewed the jammed plastic locking wheel. CLOCKWISE. - Ok Removed setscrews - eventually! Only one was an actual set screw and that was jammed! - Ok Dismantled trafficator -ok - Except for the last part that seemed impossible to access! Cursed the designer and gave up! After returning home (its a 50km round trip) and consulting web archives I learn't that you have to rotate an access plate underneath to expose the screws that will allow it all to come apart and expose the wiring at the steering wheel end. Thats for tomorrow - and I'd like to get the whole job done on this visit. So I have questions regarding the re- wiring. My car already has a working indicator switch on the dashbord but I was able to look through the holes in the trafficator base and see that that there are still four wires connected to it. I'm assuming two for the horn and two for the indicators (I dont have access to a wiring diagram, all that stuff is still in storage). That might mean the indicator wires aren't connected at the steering box end. Or they still might be! But Im pretty sure the trafficator could no longer operate my indicators. I hope to be able to have access to a lift tomorrow which will give me a better view of whats happening down there. I looked at the Moto Lita horn push and it seemed to have only one connection terminal? Do both horn wires go on this terminal? The wheel and boss are with the car so I can't have another look.tonight to confirm. Looking for answers before I set off for the car early Brussels time tomorrow. I don't want to let the smoke out! Sorry to push you guys! Derek From rjcapo1 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 8 13:19:06 2011 From: rjcapo1 at yahoo.com (Ralph Cap) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 12:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] trans trouble Message-ID: <707337.72195.qm@web120111.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> just installed a new clutch pressure plate bearing and a new slave cylinder bled the system and cannot get the car to go in gear used the alignment tool and tightened everything up any sugestions going crazy here From JPayne at ThorCon.net Wed Jun 8 14:10:21 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 13:10:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627A8@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> As noted in an earlier post, my machinist has indicated that my camshaft, valves, rocker arm, lifters, pushrods, springs and head are all "great". As always, I have an interest in slightly upgrading performance, and have had excellent luck on every other engine I have rebuilt by upgrading to a "fast road" type cam and going to oversize valves with a good 3 angle valve job. That said, what is the best option with the camshaft ? 1. Buy a new fast road one and sell mine? 2. Send mine to be re-ground? If so, to whom? 3. Exchange mine for the core charge on a re-ground one (seems like a loser option if mine is "as new") Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From tld6008 at mchsi.com Wed Jun 8 14:33:22 2011 From: tld6008 at mchsi.com (Tim Davis BN7) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 15:33:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] trans trouble In-Reply-To: <707337.72195.qm@web120111.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1970778785.5442981307565202280.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs14> Can you shift the trans without the engine running? Step on clutch and operate starter, if car moves slave cyl isn't working or disc is stuck to pressure plate IMHO Tim Davis BN7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Cap" To: Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 2:19:06 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Healeys] trans trouble just installed a new clutch pressure plate bearing and a new slave cylinder bled the system and cannot get the car to go in gear used the alignment tool and tightened everything up any sugestions going crazy here _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tld6008 at mchsi.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 15:05:56 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 14:05:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question In-Reply-To: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627A8@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627A8@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: If its a bt7, get a bj8 grind for improved profile, decent idle Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 8, 2011 1:36 PM, "Jonas Payne" wrote: > As noted in an earlier post, my machinist has indicated that my > camshaft, valves, rocker arm, lifters, pushrods, springs and head are > all "great". > > As always, I have an interest in slightly upgrading performance, and > have had excellent luck on every other engine I have rebuilt by > upgrading to a "fast road" type cam and going to oversize valves with a > good 3 angle valve job. > > That said, what is the best option with the camshaft ? > > 1. Buy a new fast road one and sell mine? > 2. Send mine to be re-ground? If so, to whom? > 3. Exchange mine for the core charge on a re-ground one (seems > like a loser option if mine is "as new") > > > Jonas Payne > PBR > Cell: (702) 358-5084 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From britishcars at shaw.ca Wed Jun 8 15:19:14 2011 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 14:19:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] trans trouble In-Reply-To: <707337.72195.qm@web120111.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <707337.72195.qm@web120111.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008701cc2621$b8309670$2891c350$@ca> When you say "cannot get the car to go into gear", I assume you mean that it's grinding when you try? If so, it sounds like your input shaft is rubbing on the pilot bearing which means that when you depress the clutch, the input shaft is continuing to spin and as such, the gears will grind when you try to put into gear. Did you ensure that you had the two Alignment bolts in the correct holes? Two of the nine bolts that hold the bell housing to the rear engine plate are a special diameter (slightly smaller than the rest) and are designed to ensure that the input shaft is aligned exactly correct with the pilot bush. I believe that these two bolts go in the 7 and 5 o'clock positions when facing towards the front of the car.....important that these bolts are in the right holes. All this being said, you should be able to get the car in gear when it is not running...might be a little tough depending upon where the input shaft is aligned when it comes to rest. Hope this helps. Paul -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ralph Cap Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:19 PM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] trans trouble just installed a new clutch pressure plate bearing and a new slave cylinder bled the system and cannot get the car to go in gear used the alignment tool and tightened everything up any sugestions going crazy here _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca From javrugtman at htcnet.org Wed Jun 8 15:20:05 2011 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 17:20:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question In-Reply-To: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627A8@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627A8@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <4DEFE785.7040303@htcnet.org> Send it to Dema for regrinding. John 64/66BJ8s http://www.elgincams.com/index.html On 6/8/2011 4:10 PM, Jonas Payne wrote: > As noted in an earlier post, my machinist has indicated that my > camshaft, valves, rocker arm, lifters, pushrods, springs and head are > all "great". > > As always, I have an interest in slightly upgrading performance, and > have had excellent luck on every other engine I have rebuilt by > upgrading to a "fast road" type cam and going to oversize valves with a > good 3 angle valve job. > > That said, what is the best option with the camshaft ? > > 1. Buy a new fast road one and sell mine? > 2. Send mine to be re-ground? If so, to whom? > 3. Exchange mine for the core charge on a re-ground one (seems > like a loser option if mine is "as new") > > > Jonas Payne > PBR > Cell: (702) 358-5084 From JPayne at ThorCon.net Wed Jun 8 15:30:48 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 14:30:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Sorry, It's a 1964 BJ8 Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 16:11:38 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 15:11:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Musings Message-ID: Son stopping by to help with Healey, priceless. Son knocking over my windscreen reaching for a fallen nut, on the otherhand costs around $200.00 Cheers Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From rchaskell at earthlink.net Wed Jun 8 16:27:52 2011 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 18:27:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Help re installation of Moto-Lita wheel AND horn push on adjustable column. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DEFF768.70203@earthlink.net> Derek, There are four wires as you noted: Horn Ground Brown w/ Black or Purple w/ Black Turn Signal Power Green Right Turn Signal Green w/ Yellow Left Turn Signal Green w/ Blue Power goes from the fuse to the horns, to the button. Pressing the button completes the ground via the stator tube/steering box. With the battery disconnected, you should be able to do continuity and grounded checks of the wires in the column. After separating the control head from the stator tube - removing the three screws under the plate you discovered, move the turn signal switch to the left position, center, and right position when removing the corresponding wire, or the post that the wire is attached to will disappear in the control head. Cheers, Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php On 06/08/2011 03:06 PM, Derek Job wrote: > Guys > > I began the installation today. Unscrewed the jammed plastic locking wheel. > CLOCKWISE. - Ok > Removed setscrews - eventually! Only one was an actual set screw and that > was jammed! - Ok > Dismantled trafficator -ok - Except for the last part that seemed impossible > to access! Cursed the designer and gave up! > > After returning home (its a 50km round trip) and consulting web archives I > learn't that you have to rotate an access plate underneath to expose the > screws that will allow it all to come apart and expose the wiring at the > steering wheel end. Thats for tomorrow - and I'd like to get the whole job > done on this visit. > > So I have questions regarding the re- wiring. > > My car already has a working indicator switch on the dashbord but I was able > to look through the holes in the trafficator base and see that that there > are still four wires connected to it. I'm assuming two for the horn and two > for the indicators (I dont have access to a wiring diagram, all that stuff > is still in storage). That might mean the indicator wires aren't connected > at the steering box end. Or they still might be! But Im pretty sure the > trafficator could no longer operate my indicators. I hope to be able to have > access to a lift tomorrow which will give me a better view of whats > happening down there. > > I looked at the Moto Lita horn push and it seemed to have only one > connection terminal? Do both horn wires go on this terminal? The wheel and > boss are with the car so I can't have another look.tonight to confirm. > > Looking for answers before I set off for the car early Brussels time > tomorrow. I don't want to let the smoke out! > > Sorry to push you guys! > > Derek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 16:55:57 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:55:57 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question In-Reply-To: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: Just remember, any "improvement" in cam profile = a de-provement in fuel consumption. On 6/9/11, Jonas Payne wrote: > Sorry, > > It's a 1964 BJ8 > > Jonas Payne > PBR > Cell: (702) 358-5084 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Jun 8 17:32:00 2011 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:32:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Help re installation of Moto-Lita wheel AND horn push on adjustable column. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6388C7C04D2E401684400392C4EF469F@GregPC> Derek, brown is horn, circuit is completed to ground no extra wire, other three are turn signal, solid green should be power, then routes to green with xx or green with yy through the control head to operate blinkers, careful here, don't pinch anything when you shove it all back in, and make sure all the connectors are screwed down tight, not a job you want to repeat over and over again, nor do you want to hit metal and melt the thing. from Patton Dickson's website: http://www.austin-healeys.com/downloads/100-6diagram.jpg don't think the control head wiring changed. Greg Lemon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Job" To: "Forum" Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:06 PM Subject: [Healeys] Help re installation of Moto-Lita wheel AND horn push on adjustable column. > Guys > > I began the installation today. Unscrewed the jammed plastic locking > wheel. > CLOCKWISE. - Ok > Removed setscrews - eventually! Only one was an actual set screw and that > was jammed! - Ok > Dismantled trafficator -ok - Except for the last part that seemed > impossible > to access! Cursed the designer and gave up! > > After returning home (its a 50km round trip) and consulting web archives I > learn't that you have to rotate an access plate underneath to expose the > screws that will allow it all to come apart and expose the wiring at the > steering wheel end. Thats for tomorrow - and I'd like to get the whole job > done on this visit. > > So I have questions regarding the re- wiring. > > My car already has a working indicator switch on the dashbord but I was > able > to look through the holes in the trafficator base and see that that there > are still four wires connected to it. I'm assuming two for the horn and > two > for the indicators (I dont have access to a wiring diagram, all that stuff > is still in storage). That might mean the indicator wires aren't connected > at the steering box end. Or they still might be! But Im pretty sure the > trafficator could no longer operate my indicators. I hope to be able to > have > access to a lift tomorrow which will give me a better view of whats > happening down there. > > I looked at the Moto Lita horn push and it seemed to have only one > connection terminal? Do both horn wires go on this terminal? The wheel and > boss are with the car so I can't have another look.tonight to confirm. > > Looking for answers before I set off for the car early Brussels time > tomorrow. I don't want to let the smoke out! > > Sorry to push you guys! > > Derek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/glemon at neb.rr.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 17:39:48 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:39:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question In-Reply-To: References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: remember every de-provement in fuel economy because of performance increase, means more smiles per mile IMHO On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Just remember, any "improvement" in cam profile = a de-provement in > fuel consumption. > > > On 6/9/11, Jonas Payne wrote: > > Sorry, > > > > It's a 1964 BJ8 > > > > Jonas Payne > > PBR > > Cell: (702) 358-5084 > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Jun 8 18:38:44 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> What's money compared to time spent with your son? I might just pay $200 bucks to get my son to come help me with the BN2 all of his own accord. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 02 Heritage Spinger >________________________________ >From: I Erbs >To: healey help >Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:11 PM >Subject: [Healeys] Musings > >Son stopping by to help with Healey, priceless. >Son knocking over my windscreen reaching for a fallen nut, on the otherhand >costs around $200.00 >Cheers From jcapezzuti at aol.com Wed Jun 8 19:00:31 2011 From: jcapezzuti at aol.com (Jeff Capezzuti) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:00:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8561AA6E-9BF2-4600-B3BA-8D98044FF605@aol.com> I hope someday my sons have the chance to knock over my windscreen! Eldest named Austin.... Be 3 in July! :) Jeff Capezzuti (770) 313-4320 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 8, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > What's money compared to time spent with your son? I might just pay $200 > bucks to get my son to come help me with the BN2 all of his own accord. > > Mike > MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > 02 Heritage Spinger >> ________________________________ >> From: I Erbs >> To: healey > help >> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:11 PM >> Subject: > [Healeys] Musings >> >> Son stopping by to help with Healey, priceless. >> Son > knocking over my windscreen reaching for a fallen nut, on the otherhand >> costs > around $200.00 >> Cheers > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jcapezzuti at aol.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 19:01:47 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:01:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I am a lucky man, both myboys are into cars trains and camping... Im just under employed and money is tight Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 8, 2011 5:38 PM, "Michael MacLean" wrote: > What's money compared to time spent with your son? I might just pay $200 bucks to get my son to come help me with the BN2 all of his own accord. > > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > 02 Heritage Spinger > > > > >>________________________________ >>From: I Erbs >>To: healey help >>Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:11 PM >>Subject: [Healeys] Musings >> >>Son stopping by to help with Healey, priceless. >>Son knocking over my windscreen reaching for a fallen nut, on the otherhand >>costs around $200.00 >>Cheers From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Jun 8 19:33:09 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: References: <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <741385.9844.qm@web180610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Well, my son is into cars, the Japanese type for drifting though. He does like driving the Bugeye around at shows though. I offered to get him a job on the railroad with me as the railroad is big on nepotism. A lot of guys at work get their sons and daughters on the job with them. He won't have anything to do with it though because he sees the odd and plentiful hours I work to pay for my Healeys. He is still in college and I am not pressing him to do anything except get his degree first though. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 02 Heritage Spinger >________________________________ >From: I Erbs >To: Michael MacLean >Cc: healey help >Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 6:01 PM >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Musings > > >I am a lucky man, both myboys are into cars trains and camping... >Im just under employed and money is tight >Ira Erbs >IT Consultant >Portland, OR From michael.oritt at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 19:59:25 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:59:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: <741385.9844.qm@web180610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <741385.9844.qm@web180610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My son got his racing license a while back and we have done a few events together. I'm loaning him my Elva Courier for him to race at BeaveRun next month and I'll be crewing for him. What a great thing to share! Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > Well, my son is into cars, the Japanese type for drifting though. He does > like driving the Bugeye around at shows though. I offered to get him a job > on > the railroad with me as the railroad is big on nepotism. A lot of guys at > work get their sons and daughters on the job with them. He won't have > anything to do with it though because he sees the odd and plentiful hours I > work to pay for my Healeys. He is still in college and I am not pressing > him > to do anything except get his degree first though. > > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > 02 Heritage Spinger > > > > > >________________________________ > >From: I Erbs > > >To: Michael MacLean > >Cc: healey > help > >Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 6:01 PM > >Subject: > Re: [Healeys] Musings > > > > > >I am a lucky man, both myboys are into cars trains > and camping... > >Im just under employed and money is tight > >Ira Erbs > >IT > Consultant > >Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 20:00:44 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:00:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: References: <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <741385.9844.qm@web180610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Amen Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 8, 2011 6:59 PM, "Michael Oritt" wrote: > My son got his racing license a while back and we have done a few events > together. I'm loaning him my Elva Courier for him to race at BeaveRun next > month and I'll be crewing for him. What a great thing to share! > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > >> Well, my son is into cars, the Japanese type for drifting though. He does >> like driving the Bugeye around at shows though. I offered to get him a job >> on >> the railroad with me as the railroad is big on nepotism. A lot of guys at >> work get their sons and daughters on the job with them. He won't have >> anything to do with it though because he sees the odd and plentiful hours I >> work to pay for my Healeys. He is still in college and I am not pressing >> him >> to do anything except get his degree first though. >> >> Mike MacLean >> 56 BN2 >> 60 AN5 >> 02 Heritage Spinger >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >From: I Erbs >> >> >To: Michael MacLean >> >Cc: healey >> help >> >Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 6:01 PM >> >Subject: >> Re: [Healeys] Musings >> > >> > >> >I am a lucky man, both myboys are into cars trains >> and camping... >> >Im just under employed and money is tight >> >Ira Erbs >> >IT >> Consultant >> >Portland, OR >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 20:52:36 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:52:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Heater installed Message-ID: Now, you might be wondering why I would post about installing a heater in the cusp of summer? I have repainted the box, and replaced the valve. I had the heater radiator checked when I had my main rad rebuilt. This sucker has vexed me snd cost me a windscreen (see other post) I had the box apart a few times because it is possible to assemble it Wrong. Then Icrossed up the hoses, so out it came. Got them routed right, but reslized I mixed up the length....anyway its in and looks pretty good. Cant wait for a dry winters day to go for a drive, or msybe all the insulation and hole plugging will cause me to need it sooner? A guy can dream cant he? Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From richard.ewald at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 21:36:42 2011 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 20:36:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] headlight relays In-Reply-To: References: <036401cc247d$7563f9e0$602beda0$@verizon.net> <692243.43538.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Terry, I'm not sure I understand your question. Relays typically have 4 or 5 terminals. Two terminals for the control side, and two (sometimes 3) for the high power side. On the control side, one side of the relay coil is connected to power, and the other side is connected to ground. A switch is installed on either the power side or the ground side. For headlights, the power side would be switched. On the high power side, one terminal is connected to the power source, the other to the load. When the control side has both power and ground, the coil energizes, and pulls the high power contacts closed and the lights work. If one side on the control circuit is not grounded, the circuit will not be complete and the relay won't energize. Many relays conform to DIN standards and have DIN terminal designations, so if you buy a off the shelf relay you might find the following terminal designations: 86 Control side usually connected to power 85 Control side usually connected to ground 30 (or maybe 15/30) power supply for the high power device to be controlled 87 Load 87A Second load terminal, might be wired to come on at the same time as 87, or on when 87 is off. For wiring headlights you would most likely use 2 off the shelf 4 pole relays, or one specialized headlight high beam / low beam relay If I recall correctly I sent you a copy of using a Volvo headlight relay a while back, if you misplaced those I can send them again, or I think Ed put them up on his site. Rick On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:32 AM, TERRY COLL wrote: > I want to install headlight relays in my '64 BJ8. Does it make a > difference > if headlight relays are grounded? I've seen the grounded ones on-line but > I > really can't see the need. From JPayne at ThorCon.net Wed Jun 8 22:24:19 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:24:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: References: <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627BF@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> HaHaHaHaHa I'm 39, I've been doing the "british car thing" for 12 years. My dad, after a doing his bit to raise his family and then doing "his thing" has come to me and said that his dream growing up was to own an AH3000 while growing up, and putting himself through school, supporting his family and then "his". It was always on the back burner till now. The tables have turned - I've gone from being his apprentice on countless surveying and construction projects to him being mine on the restoration of his AH. Wouldn't trade it for the world, but OMG do we have some "shop" issues to deal with........... We are having a bast, and enjoying ourselves mightily. Don't think for an instant that the age/experience/wisdom thing works in one direction. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:02 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: healey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Musings I am a lucky man, both myboys are into cars trains and camping... Im just under employed and money is tight Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 8, 2011 5:38 PM, "Michael MacLean" wrote: > What's money compared to time spent with your son? I might just pay > $200 bucks to get my son to come help me with the BN2 all of his own accord. > > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > 02 Heritage Spinger > > > > >>________________________________ >>From: I Erbs >>To: healey help >>Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:11 PM >>Subject: [Healeys] Musings >> >>Son stopping by to help with Healey, priceless. >>Son knocking over my windscreen reaching for a fallen nut, on the otherhand >>costs around $200.00 >>Cheers _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 22:34:31 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:34:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] great site for sounds and views Message-ID: http://wn.com/Austin-Healey_3000 Watch/listen to # 8 first -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 22:47:40 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:47:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627BF@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> References: <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627BF@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: sounds great. I bought my car 36 years ago for $500.00 so hahahahahaha right back at you... Seriously. I'm glad you two are having a great time sorting out the car. My sons and wife are really happy for me that I am on the way to finishing my restoration. The mechanicals were done many yeas ago. will send you some photos. BTW I worked in the parts biz and restoring Healeys, when I was in college. On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Jonas Payne wrote: > HaHaHaHaHa > > I'm 39, I've been doing the "british car thing" for 12 years. My dad, > after a doing his bit to raise his family and then doing "his thing" has > come to me and said that his dream growing up was to own an AH3000 while > growing up, and putting himself through school, supporting his family > and then "his". It was always on the back burner till now. > > The tables have turned - I've gone from being his apprentice on > countless surveying and construction projects to him being mine on the > restoration of his AH. > > Wouldn't trade it for the world, but OMG do we have some "shop" issues > to deal with........... > > We are having a bast, and enjoying ourselves mightily. > > Don't think for an instant that the age/experience/wisdom thing works > in one direction. > > > Jonas Payne > PBR > Cell: (702) 358-5084 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:02 PM > To: Michael MacLean > Cc: healey help > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Musings > > I am a lucky man, both myboys are into cars trains and camping... > Im just under employed and money is tight > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections > because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > > On Jun 8, 2011 5:38 PM, "Michael MacLean" > wrote: > > What's money compared to time spent with your son? I might just pay > > $200 > bucks to get my son to come help me with the BN2 all of his own accord. > > > > Mike MacLean > > 56 BN2 > > 60 AN5 > > 02 Heritage Spinger > > > > > > > > > >>________________________________ > >>From: I Erbs > >>To: healey help > >>Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:11 PM > >>Subject: [Healeys] Musings > >> > >>Son stopping by to help with Healey, priceless. > >>Son knocking over my windscreen reaching for a fallen nut, on the > otherhand > >>costs around $200.00 > >>Cheers > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From derek.c.job at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 22:56:31 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:56:31 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Help re installation of Moto-Lita wheel AND horn push on adjustable column. In-Reply-To: <6388C7C04D2E401684400392C4EF469F@GregPC> References: <6388C7C04D2E401684400392C4EF469F@GregPC> Message-ID: Thanks for the replies guys. Im all set to wire up the Brown wire to the Mota-Lita boss horn terminal BUT I'm still not sure what to do with other three wires. Remember I am not using the original trafficator, so that means I'm left with three bare wires. Do these have to be earthed? If so I cant see how I can do that in the boss. Derek On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Greg Lemon wrote: > Derek, brown is horn, circuit is completed to ground no extra wire, other > three are turn signal, solid green should be power, then routes to green > with xx or green with yy through the control head to operate blinkers, > careful here, don't pinch anything when you shove it all back in, and make > sure all the connectors are screwed down tight, not a job you want to repeat > over and over again, nor do you want to hit metal and melt the thing. > > from Patton Dickson's website: > http://www.austin-healeys.com/downloads/100-6diagram.jpg don't think the > control head wiring changed. > > Greg Lemon > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Job" > To: "Forum" > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:06 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Help re installation of Moto-Lita wheel AND horn push on > adjustable column. > > > Guys >> >> I began the installation today. Unscrewed the jammed plastic locking >> wheel. >> CLOCKWISE. - Ok >> Removed setscrews - eventually! Only one was an actual set screw and that >> was jammed! - Ok >> Dismantled trafficator -ok - Except for the last part that seemed >> impossible >> to access! Cursed the designer and gave up! >> >> After returning home (its a 50km round trip) and consulting web archives I >> learn't that you have to rotate an access plate underneath to expose the >> screws that will allow it all to come apart and expose the wiring at the >> steering wheel end. Thats for tomorrow - and I'd like to get the whole job >> done on this visit. >> >> So I have questions regarding the re- wiring. >> >> My car already has a working indicator switch on the dashbord but I was >> able >> to look through the holes in the trafficator base and see that that there >> are still four wires connected to it. I'm assuming two for the horn and >> two >> for the indicators (I dont have access to a wiring diagram, all that stuff >> is still in storage). That might mean the indicator wires aren't connected >> at the steering box end. Or they still might be! But Im pretty sure the >> trafficator could no longer operate my indicators. I hope to be able to >> have >> access to a lift tomorrow which will give me a better view of whats >> happening down there. >> >> I looked at the Moto Lita horn push and it seemed to have only one >> connection terminal? Do both horn wires go on this terminal? The wheel and >> boss are with the car so I can't have another look.tonight to confirm. >> >> Looking for answers before I set off for the car early Brussels time >> tomorrow. I don't want to let the smoke out! >> >> Sorry to push you guys! >> >> Derek >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/glemon at neb.rr.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 23:21:32 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 22:21:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Help re installation of Moto-Lita wheel AND horn push on adjustable column. In-Reply-To: References: <6388C7C04D2E401684400392C4EF469F@GregPC> Message-ID: <7E71CDC3-7E35-4928-937B-C974871BB97B@gmail.com> Unplug them from the bottom of the stator tube. If you don't need them I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Derek Job wrote: > Thanks for the replies guys. > > Im all set to wire up the Brown wire to the Mota-Lita boss horn terminal BUT > I'm still not sure what to do with other three wires. Remember I am not > using the original trafficator, so that means I'm left with three bare > wires. Do these have to be earthed? If so I cant see how I can do that in > the boss. > > Derek > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Greg Lemon wrote: > >> Derek, brown is horn, circuit is completed to ground no extra wire, other >> three are turn signal, solid green should be power, then routes to green >> with xx or green with yy through the control head to operate blinkers, >> careful here, don't pinch anything when you shove it all back in, and make >> sure all the connectors are screwed down tight, not a job you want to repeat >> over and over again, nor do you want to hit metal and melt the thing. >> >> from Patton Dickson's website: >> http://www.austin-healeys.com/downloads/100-6diagram.jpg don't think the >> control head wiring changed. >> >> Greg Lemon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Job" >> To: "Forum" >> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:06 PM >> Subject: [Healeys] Help re installation of Moto-Lita wheel AND horn push on >> adjustable column. >> >> >> Guys >>> >>> I began the installation today. Unscrewed the jammed plastic locking >>> wheel. >>> CLOCKWISE. - Ok >>> Removed setscrews - eventually! Only one was an actual set screw and that >>> was jammed! - Ok >>> Dismantled trafficator -ok - Except for the last part that seemed >>> impossible >>> to access! Cursed the designer and gave up! >>> >>> After returning home (its a 50km round trip) and consulting web archives I >>> learn't that you have to rotate an access plate underneath to expose the >>> screws that will allow it all to come apart and expose the wiring at the >>> steering wheel end. Thats for tomorrow - and I'd like to get the whole job >>> done on this visit. >>> >>> So I have questions regarding the re- wiring. >>> >>> My car already has a working indicator switch on the dashbord but I was >>> able >>> to look through the holes in the trafficator base and see that that there >>> are still four wires connected to it. I'm assuming two for the horn and >>> two >>> for the indicators (I dont have access to a wiring diagram, all that stuff >>> is still in storage). That might mean the indicator wires aren't connected >>> at the steering box end. Or they still might be! But Im pretty sure the >>> trafficator could no longer operate my indicators. I hope to be able to >>> have >>> access to a lift tomorrow which will give me a better view of whats >>> happening down there. >>> >>> I looked at the Moto Lita horn push and it seemed to have only one >>> connection terminal? Do both horn wires go on this terminal? The wheel and >>> boss are with the car so I can't have another look.tonight to confirm. >>> >>> Looking for answers before I set off for the car early Brussels time >>> tomorrow. I don't want to let the smoke out! >>> >>> Sorry to push you guys! >>> >>> Derek >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/glemon at neb.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 02:45:58 2011 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 01:45:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: References: <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627BF@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: My boy is 2 And a half. So far he loves crawling all over the cars. He has a particular affi ity for his grandmum's Spitfire, but I think that's because it's the smallest car in the collection. My daughter (11) is getting more interested, but her attention span is, well, lacking. :) The wife's even out here learning, but I believe her enthusiasm would be ,uch greater if we had a '69 Challenger in the garage. These days, the challenge is getting me into the garage. Muscle/joint issues keep me laid up more often than not these days. Perhaps I need to drag a lazy boy out to the garage an supervise. ;) Jody On 6/8/11, I Erbs wrote: > sounds great. I bought my car 36 years ago for $500.00 so hahahahahaha > right back at you... > Seriously. I'm glad you two are having a great time sorting out the car. My > sons and wife are really happy for me that I am on the way to finishing my > restoration. The mechanicals were done many yeas ago. will send you some > photos. > BTW I worked in the parts biz and restoring Healeys, when I was in college. > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Jonas Payne wrote: > >> HaHaHaHaHa >> >> I'm 39, I've been doing the "british car thing" for 12 years. My dad, >> after a doing his bit to raise his family and then doing "his thing" has >> come to me and said that his dream growing up was to own an AH3000 while >> growing up, and putting himself through school, supporting his family >> and then "his". It was always on the back burner till now. >> >> The tables have turned - I've gone from being his apprentice on >> countless surveying and construction projects to him being mine on the >> restoration of his AH. >> >> Wouldn't trade it for the world, but OMG do we have some "shop" issues >> to deal with........... >> >> We are having a bast, and enjoying ourselves mightily. >> >> Don't think for an instant that the age/experience/wisdom thing works >> in one direction. >> >> >> Jonas Payne >> PBR >> Cell: (702) 358-5084 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs >> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:02 PM >> To: Michael MacLean >> Cc: healey help >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Musings >> >> I am a lucky man, both myboys are into cars trains and camping... >> Im just under employed and money is tight >> >> Ira Erbs >> IT Consultant >> Portland, OR >> >> sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections >> because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write >> >> On Jun 8, 2011 5:38 PM, "Michael MacLean" >> wrote: >> > What's money compared to time spent with your son? I might just pay >> > $200 >> bucks to get my son to come help me with the BN2 all of his own accord. >> > >> > Mike MacLean >> > 56 BN2 >> > 60 AN5 >> > 02 Heritage Spinger >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>________________________________ >> >>From: I Erbs >> >>To: healey help >> >>Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:11 PM >> >>Subject: [Healeys] Musings >> >> >> >>Son stopping by to help with Healey, priceless. >> >>Son knocking over my windscreen reaching for a fallen nut, on the >> otherhand >> >>costs around $200.00 >> >>Cheers >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net >> > > > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jodyfkerr at gmail.com > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/They-Might-Be-Racing/182813478411202<--Follow us on Facebook! 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Thu Jun 9 02:46:33 2011 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:46:33 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question In-Reply-To: References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> Not every performance improvement decreases the fuel economy, means double the smiles. A good road engine, built for more power will actually many times increase the miles per gallon figure. Magnus Karlsson www.concourshealeys.com Skickat frC%n min iPad 9 jun 2011 kl. 01:39 skrev I Erbs : > remember every de-provement in fuel economy because of performance increase, > means more smiles per mile IMHO > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > >> Just remember, any "improvement" in cam profile = a de-provement in >> fuel consumption. >> >> >> On 6/9/11, Jonas Payne wrote: >>> Sorry, >>> >>> It's a 1964 BJ8 >>> >>> Jonas Payne >>> PBR >>> Cell: (702) 358-5084 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com >> > > > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/magnuskarlsson at bornet.net From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jun 9 03:22:27 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:22:27 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question In-Reply-To: <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> Message-ID: <4DF090D3.6050709@chello.nl> It all comes down to the amount of lead in your RH shoe. An uprated engine will usually be more efficient and will extract more power from the same amount of fuel. This means that in theory you will use less fuel travelling at the same constant speed. However, this is only true if you use a feather light touch on the loud pedal but if there is the extra power you tend to use it accelerating which will upset you MPG figure. Kees Oudesluijs [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From jagxk120 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 04:05:02 2011 From: jagxk120 at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:05:02 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Non british sports car In-Reply-To: <201106090853.p598r436023331@lofty.jag-lovers.org> References: <201106090853.p598r436023331@lofty.jag-lovers.org> Message-ID: <4DF09ACE.1060203@gmail.com> Fellows, I'm stepping in the non english yard. I've bought an early Porsche 911 (1966, VIN 307621) and I'd like to know if there is something like our Jaglovers or Healeylist in the Porsche world? Another thing is that I need some parts to rejuvenate this old lady, so I'd need some addresses too (UK preferably). Thx Bernard '54 XK FHC '59 Healey 3000 '62 E-Type FHC '66 Porsche 911 '70 FIAT 500 From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 06:35:47 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:35:47 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Moto-Lita, Mission accomplished! Message-ID: Thanks for all the responses. I went back to the car this morning and finished the installation in a couple of hours. The article on the Acmefluid website is really helpful and as it says near the end I reckon it is possible to change the wheel AND re-use the original trafficator without pulling the wires all the way through. You can do it from the top end although you will need to cut off the connectors so they pass through the short stator tube, and then re-solder them. As my indicators had been moved to a seperate dashboard switch by the PO I didn't have to do anything with the remaining 3 wires, I just isolated them and all my electrics are working fine. I went for the brushed aluminum Boss and horn push with AH badge. I think the result gives a very clean look. You can see it on this web page. Scroll to the bottom of the page. http://www.healeysix.net/mynew100six.htm The link to the Acmefluid article is www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/trafficator.html Derek From bighealey at charter.net Thu Jun 9 06:48:02 2011 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 05:48:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] trans trouble In-Reply-To: <008701cc2621$b8309670$2891c350$@ca> References: <707337.72195.qm@web120111.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <008701cc2621$b8309670$2891c350$@ca> Message-ID: <002501cc26a3$78ce1c00$6a6a5400$@charter.net> Paul, There are two thicknesses of throw out "bearings". Sounds like you used the thinner one when you replaced it. Was the new one thinner than the old one you pulled? If so this could be the culprit assuming the clutch plate is in properly and the hydraulics are all working. Pull and do over. It is something simple surely. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of PG Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:19 PM To: 'Ralph Cap'; Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] trans trouble When you say "cannot get the car to go into gear", I assume you mean that it's grinding when you try? If so, it sounds like your input shaft is rubbing on the pilot bearing which means that when you depress the clutch, the input shaft is continuing to spin and as such, the gears will grind when you try to put into gear. Did you ensure that you had the two Alignment bolts in the correct holes? Two of the nine bolts that hold the bell housing to the rear engine plate are a special diameter (slightly smaller than the rest) and are designed to ensure that the input shaft is aligned exactly correct with the pilot bush. I believe that these two bolts go in the 7 and 5 o'clock positions when facing towards the front of the car.....important that these bolts are in the right holes. All this being said, you should be able to get the car in gear when it is not running...might be a little tough depending upon where the input shaft is aligned when it comes to rest. Hope this helps. Paul -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ralph Cap Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:19 PM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] trans trouble just installed a new clutch pressure plate bearing and a new slave cylinder bled the system and cannot get the car to go in gear used the alignment tool and tightened everything up any sugestions going crazy here _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 06:52:34 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 05:52:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question In-Reply-To: <4DF090D3.6050709@chello.nl> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> <4DF090D3.6050709@chello.nl> Message-ID: The cost of gas is the entry fee for driving my Healey. It has been over 20 years since it was a daily driver. Hitting the loud pedal is part of the fun. I have gotten 24+mpg and I have gotten 14+ mpg....depending on my mood;-) Cheers Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 9, 2011 2:36 AM, "Oudesluys" wrote: > It all comes down to the amount of lead in your RH shoe. An uprated > engine will usually be more efficient and will extract more power from > the same amount of fuel. This means that in theory you will use less > fuel travelling at the same constant speed. However, this is only true > if you use a feather light touch on the loud pedal but if there is the > extra power you tend to use it accelerating which will upset you MPG figure. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 07:24:20 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:24:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] windshield frame screws Message-ID: wow those little buggers are a pain to remove. In two cases the heads just broke off the screws! What is the size, pitch of the screws? I will need to drill out at least a few of them. I am soaking with penetrating oil and hope the others will release. -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 07:42:13 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:42:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question In-Reply-To: References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> <4DF090D3.6050709@chello.nl> Message-ID: That's an interesting MPG variation. On my 100 Le Mans with larger carbs, fast road cam, etc. I always get 22-24 no matter what, though it is only driven one way: Vigorously. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:52 AM, I Erbs wrote: > The cost of gas is the entry fee for driving my Healey. It has been over 20 > years since it was a daily driver. Hitting the loud pedal is part of the > fun. I have gotten 24+mpg and I have gotten 14+ mpg....depending on my > mood;-) > Cheers > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > > On Jun 9, 2011 2:36 AM, "Oudesluys" wrote: > > It all comes down to the amount of lead in your RH shoe. An uprated > > engine will usually be more efficient and will extract more power from > > the same amount of fuel. This means that in theory you will use less > > fuel travelling at the same constant speed. However, this is only true > > if you use a feather light touch on the loud pedal but if there is the > > extra power you tend to use it accelerating which will upset you MPG > figure. > > > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name > of coudesluijs.vcf] > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From linwoodrose at mac.com Thu Jun 9 07:48:21 2011 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (Linwood H Rose) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:48:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hylomar Message-ID: There have been discussions here and on other forums about Hylomar. I happen to love the stuff and remain puzzled as to why it seems to be hard to find at times given that is such a great product. I believe that there was an article in the most recent Austin-Healey USA Healey Magazine by Roger Moment that articulated the differences between the advanced formula solvent free Hylomar versus the Racing Formula Hylomar, and I certainly agree with Roger that for most of our applications the advanced formula, solvent free variety is what you want. At my local car parts stores the racing formula was available, but no one had the advanced formula. Anyway, those who have worked with this stuff know that it is a gooey mess. Many of you may have known, but I just discovered that Pegasus Racing Supplies sells the stuff in an 8 ounce can with an applicator brush that I found to be much handier than the squeeze tubes. If you look at the Pegasus web site, it is part number 3318. 3318 (HAO) Hylomar Solvent Free Gasket Maker, 8oz Brush-Top Can Just thought you might want to know if you did not already! Cheers, Lin Lin Rose 1959 AN5 Bugeye - pure driving enjoyment, go-kart with a body. 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" - owned since 1971, my first car and still have it! 1964 Jag MKII - current project From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 07:58:13 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 06:58:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question In-Reply-To: References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> <4DF090D3.6050709@chello.nl> Message-ID: Your not trying hard enough ;) Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 9, 2011 6:42 AM, "Michael Oritt" wrote: > That's an interesting MPG variation. > > On my 100 Le Mans with larger carbs, fast road cam, etc. I always get 22-24 > no matter what, though it is only driven one way: Vigorously. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:52 AM, I Erbs wrote: > >> The cost of gas is the entry fee for driving my Healey. It has been over 20 >> years since it was a daily driver. Hitting the loud pedal is part of the >> fun. I have gotten 24+mpg and I have gotten 14+ mpg....depending on my >> mood;-) >> Cheers >> >> Ira Erbs >> IT Consultant >> Portland, OR >> >> sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because >> my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write >> >> On Jun 9, 2011 2:36 AM, "Oudesluys" wrote: >> > It all comes down to the amount of lead in your RH shoe. An uprated >> > engine will usually be more efficient and will extract more power from >> > the same amount of fuel. This means that in theory you will use less >> > fuel travelling at the same constant speed. However, this is only true >> > if you use a feather light touch on the loud pedal but if there is the >> > extra power you tend to use it accelerating which will upset you MPG >> figure. >> > >> > Kees Oudesluijs >> > >> > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name >> of coudesluijs.vcf] >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu Jun 9 08:06:16 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:06:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] windshield frame screws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000d01cc26ae$66da0170$348e0450$@verizon.net> If you are asking about the 8 frame to pillar screws, Moss has them. Believe they are Posidrive so be sure you have the proper screw driver. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:24 AM To: healey help Subject: [Healeys] windshield frame screws wow those little buggers are a pain to remove. In two cases the heads just broke off the screws! What is the size, pitch of the screws? I will need to drill out at least a few of them. I am soaking with penetrating oil and hope the others will release. -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 08:07:38 2011 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:07:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] windshield frame screws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ira, bcs/nock has the correct screws. cheers, On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:24 AM, I Erbs wrote: > wow those little buggers are a pain to remove. In two cases the heads just > broke off the screws! > What is the size, pitch of the screws? I will need to drill out at least a > few of them. I am soaking with penetrating oil and hope the others will > release. > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From barrie at look.ca Thu Jun 9 08:13:33 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:13:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question In-Reply-To: References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> <4DF090D3.6050709@chello.nl> Message-ID: This gas guzzling conversation is interesting. I built myself an MGB GT V8 because I liked the shape, liked the coupe protection, liked the power - the Rover 3.5L puts out 200bhp. All this to ease my pain from parting with my BJ8. But as to MPG the motor just ticks over at 100kph and a long US trip got me 38MPG !!!!!!!!!!. Mind you it is so new that the mechanical drag is minute. Funny thing is that the GT V8 was discontinued when the oil crunch came back in the 70's but it did and does much much better MPG than the iron block one !!!!! The 1.8L iron engine and 3.5L aluminium engine weigh the same within a few pounds. By the bye, I sold my BJ8 because I was getting paranoid about it getting scratched at shows etc etc. It was a 100 points car and I was protecting it like a, like a, like a??? At 08:52 AM 6/9/2011, I Erbs wrote: >The cost of gas is the entry fee for driving my Healey. It has been over 20 >years since it was a daily driver. Hitting the loud pedal is part of the >fun. I have gotten 24+mpg and I have gotten 14+ mpg....depending on my >mood;-) >Cheers > >Ira Erbs >IT Consultant >Portland, OR > >sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because >my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > >On Jun 9, 2011 2:36 AM, "Oudesluys" wrote: > > It all comes down to the amount of lead in your RH shoe. An uprated > > engine will usually be more efficient and will extract more power from > > the same amount of fuel. This means that in theory you will use less > > fuel travelling at the same constant speed. However, this is only true > > if you use a feather light touch on the loud pedal but if there is the > > extra power you tend to use it accelerating which will upset you MPG >figure. > > > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name >of coudesluijs.vcf] > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 08:31:18 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:31:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hylomar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Supposedly Hylomar has undergone a few different formulations and is "not what it used to be". I don't know if that is true and if so which iteration the stuff I have might be but I am a big fan of it for certain applications. It appears to be oil and fuel proof and--like some of us--seems to remain forever tacky and non-hardening.... Even when Permatex marketed it availability was always a problem--some NAPA stores carried it and others did not. My understanding is that Rolls-Royce is the current owner and that distribution of Hylomar in the US is handled through some outfit in Texas. My favorite Hylomar story is when I used it on the cork gasket for the tank sender. Some how or other I got some of it in the tank and I figured it would simply dissolve. Some months later while under the car I happened to notice that the see-through aftermarket in-line filter I had installed between tank and fuel pump had a blue glob in it. I replaced the filter and cut the old one open--the Hylomar, which had somehow made its way up the fuel pickup, down the line and into the filter without cutting off fuel supply, seemed of exactly the same consistency as when I squeezed it out of the tube. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Linwood H Rose wrote: > There have been discussions here and on other forums about Hylomar. I > happen to love the stuff and remain puzzled as to why it seems to be hard to > find at times given that is such a great product. I believe that there was > an article in the most recent Austin-Healey USA Healey Magazine by Roger > Moment that articulated the differences between the advanced formula solvent > free Hylomar versus the Racing Formula Hylomar, and I certainly agree with > Roger that for most of our applications the advanced formula, solvent free > variety is what you want. At my local car parts stores the racing formula > was available, but no one had the advanced formula. > > Anyway, those who have worked with this stuff know that it is a gooey mess. > Many of you may have known, but I just discovered that Pegasus Racing > Supplies sells the stuff in an 8 ounce can with an applicator brush that I > found to be much handier than the squeeze tubes. If you look at the Pegasus > web site, it is part number 3318. > > 3318 (HAO) Hylomar Solvent Free Gasket Maker, 8oz Brush-Top Can > > Just thought you might want to know if you did not already! > > Cheers, > > Lin > > Lin Rose > 1959 AN5 Bugeye - pure driving enjoyment, go-kart with a body. > 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" - owned since 1971, my first car and still have > it! > 1964 Jag MKII - current project > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 08:38:58 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:38:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] windshield frame screws In-Reply-To: <000d01cc26ae$66da0170$348e0450$@verizon.net> References: <000d01cc26ae$66da0170$348e0450$@verizon.net> Message-ID: the ones holding my frame together are slot screw heads On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:06 AM, John Sims wrote: > If you are asking about the 8 frame to pillar screws, Moss has them. > Believe > they are Posidrive so be sure you have the proper screw driver. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:24 AM > To: healey help > Subject: [Healeys] windshield frame screws > > wow those little buggers are a pain to remove. In two cases the heads just > broke off the screws! > What is the size, pitch of the screws? I will need to drill out at least a > few of them. I am soaking with penetrating oil and hope the others will > release. > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we > created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net > > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From JPayne at ThorCon.net Thu Jun 9 08:56:31 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:56:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hylomar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627C0@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Order it from moss, they carry it. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Jun 9 10:13:57 2011 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:13:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] great site for sounds and views In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for that! Glad you didn't post this in winter. I drove in to work today with the top down for the first time this season. What a treat to hear the full sound. Then you go and post this. Do I hear "road trip" calling? Yep, going to Rendezvous! Rich Kahn > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:34:31 -0700 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] great site for sounds and views > > http://wn.com/Austin-Healey_3000 > > Watch/listen to # 8 first > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From jtrifari at comcast.net Thu Jun 9 10:21:38 2011 From: jtrifari at comcast.net (John Trifari) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:21:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] headlight relays In-Reply-To: References: <036401cc247d$7563f9e0$602beda0$@verizon.net> <692243.43538.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001b01cc26c1$4f8c4c40$eea4e4c0$@net> I installed headlight relays in my BN1 one day because I had nothing better to do. A few weeks later I pulled it all out and reset the connections as they were originally. Too much wire, too many connections, too much potential for failure. So my question is: why bother? John Trifari Golden Gate AHC -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Ewald Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:37 PM To: TERRY COLL Cc: austin healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] headlight relays Terry, I'm not sure I understand your question. Relays typically have 4 or 5 terminals. Two terminals for the control side, and two (sometimes 3) for the high power side. On the control side, one side of the relay coil is connected to power, and the other side is connected to ground. A switch is installed on either the power side or the ground side. For headlights, the power side would be switched. On the high power side, one terminal is connected to the power source, the other to the load. When the control side has both power and ground, the coil energizes, and pulls the high power contacts closed and the lights work. If one side on the control circuit is not grounded, the circuit will not be complete and the relay won't energize. Many relays conform to DIN standards and have DIN terminal designations, so if you buy a off the shelf relay you might find the following terminal designations: 86 Control side usually connected to power 85 Control side usually connected to ground 30 (or maybe 15/30) power supply for the high power device to be controlled 87 Load 87A Second load terminal, might be wired to come on at the same time as 87, or on when 87 is off. For wiring headlights you would most likely use 2 off the shelf 4 pole relays, or one specialized headlight high beam / low beam relay If I recall correctly I sent you a copy of using a Volvo headlight relay a while back, if you misplaced those I can send them again, or I think Ed put them up on his site. Rick On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:32 AM, TERRY COLL wrote: > I want to install headlight relays in my '64 BJ8. Does it make a > difference > if headlight relays are grounded? I've seen the grounded ones on-line but > I > really can't see the need. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtrifari at comcast.net From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Jun 9 10:26:21 2011 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:26:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Moto-Lita, Mission accomplished! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Perhaps I missed something. I changed out the wheels two years ago with out a problem. Left the wires in state and worked from the top. Removed trafficator/horn assembly. Pulled split circle ring and removed wheel and hub. Replaced hub with design needed from MOSS. Reused original hardware. All buttoned up in maybe 1 1/2 hours. Did I just get lucky? Rich Kahn > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:35:47 +0200 > From: derek.c.job at gmail.com > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Moto-Lita, Mission accomplished! > > Thanks for all the responses. I went back to the car this morning and > finished the installation in a couple of hours. The article on the Acmefluid > website is really helpful and as it says near the end I reckon it is > possible to change the wheel AND re-use the original trafficator without > pulling the wires all the way through. You can do it from the top end > although you will need to cut off the connectors so they pass through the > short stator tube, and then re-solder them. > > As my indicators had been moved to a seperate dashboard switch by the PO I > didn't have to do anything with the remaining 3 wires, I just isolated them > and all my electrics are working fine. > > I went for the brushed aluminum Boss and horn push with AH badge. I think > the result gives a very clean look. You can see it on this web page. Scroll > to the bottom of the page. > > http://www.healeysix.net/mynew100six.htm > > > The link to the Acmefluid article is > > www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/trafficator.html > > Derek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 10:39:26 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:39:26 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Moto-Lita, Mission accomplished! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You didn't get lucky, you just knew what you were doing!!. What you described is the simplest way to do it. My only real problem was caused by not knowing how to seperate the stator tube from the trafficator assembly by way of the three screws hidden underneath, which allows access to the wiring connection. Once I knew that it was pretty simple. Derek On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > Perhaps I missed something. I changed out the wheels two years ago with out > a problem. Left the wires in state and worked from the top. Removed > trafficator/horn assembly. Pulled split circle ring and removed wheel and > hub. Replaced hub with design needed from MOSS. Reused original hardware. > All buttoned up in maybe 1 1/2 hours. Did I just get lucky? > Rich Kahn > > > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:35:47 +0200 > > From: derek.c.job at gmail.com > > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Healeys] Moto-Lita, Mission accomplished! > > > > > Thanks for all the responses. I went back to the car this morning and > > finished the installation in a couple of hours. The article on the > Acmefluid > > website is really helpful and as it says near the end I reckon it is > > possible to change the wheel AND re-use the original trafficator without > > pulling the wires all the way through. You can do it from the top end > > although you will need to cut off the connectors so they pass through the > > short stator tube, and then re-solder them. > > > > As my indicators had been moved to a seperate dashboard switch by the PO > I > > didn't have to do anything with the remaining 3 wires, I just isolated > them > > and all my electrics are working fine. > > > > I went for the brushed aluminum Boss and horn push with AH badge. I think > > the result gives a very clean look. You can see it on this web page. > Scroll > > to the bottom of the page. > > > > http://www.healeysix.net/mynew100six.htm > > > > > > The link to the Acmefluid article is > > > > www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/trafficator.html > > > > Derek > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 10:52:35 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:52:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] great site for sounds and views In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am jonesing to get my car back on the road. I have not started it since Sept, 2009. I am workinfg as hard as I can to get it started in time for Rendezvous. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Richard Kahn wrote: > Thanks for that! Glad you didn't post this in winter. I drove in to work > today with the top down for the first time this season. What a treat to hear > the full sound. Then you go and post this. Do I hear "road trip" calling? > Yep, going to Rendezvous! > Rich Kahn > > > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:34:31 -0700 > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Healeys] great site for sounds and views > > > > > http://wn.com/Austin-Healey_3000 > > > > Watch/listen to # 8 first > > > > -- > > Ira Erbs > > IT CONSULTANT > > Portland, OR > > > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > > thinking we used when we created them. > > -Albert Einstein > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 9 11:22:04 2011 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:22:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] windshield frame screws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20110609102111.02073778@pop.att.yahoo.com> They appear to be 36 TPI, but check them with a screw or lightly with a tap. At 06:24 AM 6/9/2011 -0700, I Erbs wrote: >What is the size, pitch of the screws? > >Ira Erbs >IT CONSULTANT From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 11:25:12 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:25:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] windshield frame screws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rich, My problem is with the chromed frame around the glass, not the posts. There are two screws in each corner of the frame. Thanks On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > It's all here.. > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=756 > > Michael Salter > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:24 AM, I Erbs wrote: > >> wow those little buggers are a pain to remove. In two cases the heads just >> broke off the screws! >> What is the size, pitch of the screws? I will need to drill out at least a >> few of them. I am soaking with penetrating oil and hope the others will >> release. >> >> -- >> Ira Erbs >> IT CONSULTANT >> Portland, OR >> >> We can't solve problems by using the same kind of >> thinking we used when we created them. >> -Albert Einstein >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: >> http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/msalter at precisionsportscar.com >> >> > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 11:26:13 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:26:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] windshield frame screws In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20110609102111.02073778@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20110609102111.02073778@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: the issue is removing them, when the head snaps off, I will look for a tap. Thanks On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:22 AM, john spaur wrote: > They appear to be 36 TPI, but check them with a screw or lightly with a > tap. > > > At 06:24 AM 6/9/2011 -0700, I Erbs wrote: > >> What is the size, pitch of the screws? >> >> Ira Erbs >> IT CONSULTANT >> > > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From rjcapo1 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 9 11:35:31 2011 From: rjcapo1 at yahoo.com (Ralph Cap) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] rear end Message-ID: <902453.15860.qm@web120115.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> i think my prob lies with the rear end ,with the driveshaft disconnected the car shifts fine when i connect the driveshaft it won't go in gear this is a big prob anyone ever change a rear end and know wno rebuilds them From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 9 12:07:10 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:07:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] windshield frame screws In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.3.4.2.20110609102111.02073778@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3C83592D-4D16-4482-834C-1E10E438FA26@sbcglobal.net> DO NOT break the heads off It is very difficult to remove the broken part in the windshield pedestal. When you drill out the broken screw it is very easy to wander off into the aluminium. Heat the pedestal and then work the screw out slowly. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:26 AM, I Erbs wrote: > the issue is removing them, when the head snaps off, I will look > for a tap. > Thanks > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:22 AM, john spaur > wrote: > >> They appear to be 36 TPI, but check them with a screw or lightly >> with a >> tap. >> >> >> At 06:24 AM 6/9/2011 -0700, I Erbs wrote: >> >>> What is the size, pitch of the screws? >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> IT CONSULTANT >>> >> >> > > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From bighealey at charter.net Thu Jun 9 12:20:15 2011 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Hylomar Message-ID: <7e96c36e.274f0.13075a21861.Webtop.48@charter.net> Try Amazon.com I bought a half dozen tubes. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Linwood H Rose wrote: > There have been discussions here and on other forums about Hylomar. I > happen to love the stuff and remain puzzled as to why it seems to be > hard to find at times given that is such a great product. I believe > that there was an article in the most recent Austin-Healey USA Healey > Magazine by Roger Moment that articulated the differences between the > advanced formula solvent free Hylomar versus the Racing Formula > Hylomar, and I certainly agree with Roger that for most of our > applications the advanced formula, solvent free variety is what you > want. At my local car parts stores the racing formula was available, > but no one had the advanced formula. > > Anyway, those who have worked with this stuff know that it is a gooey > mess. Many of you may have known, but I just discovered that Pegasus > Racing Supplies sells the stuff in an 8 ounce can with an applicator > brush that I found to be much handier than the squeeze tubes. If you > look at the Pegasus web site, it is part number 3318. > > 3318 (HAO) Hylomar Solvent Free Gasket Maker, 8oz Brush-Top Can > > Just thought you might want to know if you did not already! > > Cheers, > > Lin > > Lin Rose > 1959 AN5 Bugeye - pure driving enjoyment, go-kart with a body. > 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" - owned since 1971, my first car and still > have it! > 1964 Jag MKII - current project > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Jun 9 12:24:56 2011 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:24:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] windshield frame screws In-Reply-To: References: , <6.2.3.4.2.20110609102111.02073778@pop.att.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: Soak in some form of penetrating oil and use a screw extractor (Sears or Home Depot)If that doesn't work, remove as much of the head as you can and pry the parts apart. You can then remove what is left of the screw with a vice grip and penetrating oil. Start by going in the tight direction a little first to break the rust bond then the loose direction to remove. Good luck Rich Kahn > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:26:13 -0700 > To: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] windshield frame screws > > the issue is removing them, when the head snaps off, I will look for a tap. > Thanks > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:22 AM, john spaur wrote: > > > They appear to be 36 TPI, but check them with a screw or lightly with a > > tap. > > > > > > At 06:24 AM 6/9/2011 -0700, I Erbs wrote: > > > >> What is the size, pitch of the screws? > >> > >> Ira Erbs > >> IT CONSULTANT > >> > > > > > > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From Editorgary at aol.com Thu Jun 9 13:23:34 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:23:34 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Efficiency Message-ID: <56a1b.5b8d817.3b2277b6@aol.com> In a message dated 6/9/11 6:11:16 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > It all comes down to the amount of lead in your RH shoe. An uprated > engine will usually be more efficient and will extract more power from > the same amount of fuel. This means that in theory you will use less > fuel travelling at the same constant speed. However, this is only true > if you use a feather light touch on the loud pedal but if there is the > extra power you tend to use it accelerating which will upset you MPG > figure. > > Kees Oudesluijs > On the Mercedes-Benz F-Cell round-the-world tour, on the FIRST day, the American journalist driving one of the three hydrogen fuel cell cars decided to see how fast a hydrogen-electric car could go on the autobahn. The car comfortable exceeded 100 mph. Unfortunately, the engineers had calculated the distance to the first fueling stop (each very elaborate since they had to bring their own generator, compressor, and hydrogen tank truck with them) on the basis of the cars driving a steady 70-80 mph. They had to send a trailer out to pick up the car which ran out of fuel 5 miles from the refueling stop. Doesn't matter that in his enthusiasm he only got 60 mpg instead of the 70-80 they had bargained for. G. From insptwo at msn.com Thu Jun 9 13:42:48 2011 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:42:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: References: , <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, , <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627BF@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com>, , Message-ID: That's kinda how my two boys got into it. I came home from work back in the sixties, in the country, to surprise them as they had taken my rider mower, stripped it down, took off the deck and blade, took off the governor and were racing down the hill. They have always loved working on cars. The youngest did the body and paint work on my BJ7 and has his own restoration business in Georgia. This always provides me an enjoyment. Last year he finished a 1967 Mustang GT500 and asked me to take it for a spin. He had to press me to really "put to the petal to the metal". Damn, that car was fast. Bill BJ7 From gmandas at yahoo.com Thu Jun 9 14:36:16 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:36:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> <4DF090D3.6050709@chello.nl> Message-ID: Any ideas on what MPG a 65 BJ8, non-restored motor should be getting? I just did a highway mileage check and got 18. I'm thinking I should get better. I set the carbs up by the book. The plugs are dirty brown, not black, but the exhaust smells rich and spits little black specks all over the trunk and my pants. Greg 65BJ8 Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jun 9, 2011, at 8:52 AM, I Erbs wrote: > The cost of gas is the entry fee for driving my Healey. It has been over 20 > years since it was a daily driver. Hitting the loud pedal is part of the > fun. I have gotten 24+mpg and I have gotten 14+ mpg....depending on my > mood;-) > Cheers > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > > On Jun 9, 2011 2:36 AM, "Oudesluys" wrote: >> It all comes down to the amount of lead in your RH shoe. An uprated >> engine will usually be more efficient and will extract more power from >> the same amount of fuel. This means that in theory you will use less >> fuel travelling at the same constant speed. However, this is only true >> if you use a feather light touch on the loud pedal but if there is the >> extra power you tend to use it accelerating which will upset you MPG > figure. >> >> Kees Oudesluijs >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name > of coudesluijs.vcf] >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From cleona44 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 9 14:54:46 2011 From: cleona44 at hotmail.com (Jim Lesher) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:54:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Moto-Lita, Mission accomplished! In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: JOB WELL DONE!!! It looks very impressive > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:39:26 +0200 > From: derek.c.job at gmail.com > To: tahoehealey at hotmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moto-Lita, Mission accomplished! > > You didn't get lucky, you just knew what you were doing!!. > > What you described is the simplest way to do it. My only real problem was > caused by not knowing how to seperate the stator tube from the trafficator > assembly by way of the three screws hidden underneath, which allows access > to the wiring connection. Once I knew that it was pretty simple. > > Derek > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > > > Perhaps I missed something. I changed out the wheels two years ago with out > > a problem. Left the wires in state and worked from the top. Removed > > trafficator/horn assembly. Pulled split circle ring and removed wheel and > > hub. Replaced hub with design needed from MOSS. Reused original hardware. > > All buttoned up in maybe 1 1/2 hours. Did I just get lucky? > > Rich Kahn > > > > > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:35:47 +0200 > > > From: derek.c.job at gmail.com > > > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > > > Subject: [Healeys] Moto-Lita, Mission accomplished! > > > > > > > > Thanks for all the responses. I went back to the car this morning and > > > finished the installation in a couple of hours. The article on the > > Acmefluid > > > website is really helpful and as it says near the end I reckon it is > > > possible to change the wheel AND re-use the original trafficator without > > > pulling the wires all the way through. You can do it from the top end > > > although you will need to cut off the connectors so they pass through the > > > short stator tube, and then re-solder them. > > > > > > As my indicators had been moved to a seperate dashboard switch by the PO > > I > > > didn't have to do anything with the remaining 3 wires, I just isolated > > them > > > and all my electrics are working fine. > > > > > > I went for the brushed aluminum Boss and horn push with AH badge. I think > > > the result gives a very clean look. You can see it on this web page. > > Scroll > > > to the bottom of the page. > > > > > > http://www.healeysix.net/mynew100six.htm > > > > > > > > > The link to the Acmefluid article is > > > > > > www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/trafficator.html > > > > > > Derek > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cleona44 at hotmail.com From barrie at look.ca Thu Jun 9 14:41:12 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:41:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] windshield frame screws In-Reply-To: <3C83592D-4D16-4482-834C-1E10E438FA26@sbcglobal.net> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20110609102111.02073778@pop.att.yahoo.com> <3C83592D-4D16-4482-834C-1E10E438FA26@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: You have to heat the screw then throw water on it - the shock loosens the crud. Do it several times if necessary ! and use liquid wrench in between. At 02:07 PM 6/9/2011, David Nock wrote: >DO NOT break the heads off It is very difficult to remove the broken >part in the windshield pedestal. When you drill out the broken screw >it is very easy to wander off into the aluminium. > >Heat the pedestal and then work the screw out slowly. > > > > >David Nock >British Car Specialists >Stockton Ca 95205 >209-948-8767 > >www.britishcarspecialists.com >. >. > >On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:26 AM, I Erbs wrote: > > > the issue is removing them, when the head snaps off, I will look > > for a tap. > > Thanks > > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:22 AM, john spaur > > wrote: > > > >> They appear to be 36 TPI, but check them with a screw or lightly > >> with a > >> tap. > >> > >> > >> At 06:24 AM 6/9/2011 -0700, I Erbs wrote: > >> > >>> What is the size, pitch of the screws? > >>> > >>> Ira Erbs > >>> IT CONSULTANT > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Ira Erbs > > IT CONSULTANT > > Portland, OR > > > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > > thinking we used when we created them. > > -Albert Einstein > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 16:01:38 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 06:01:38 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> <4DF090D3.6050709@chello.nl> Message-ID: That's about right for a BJ8. Black specks is from old carbon deposits in exhaust liberated by water condensate - not an indication of richness. If it smells rich probably you are lifting dashpot pistons too high during adjustment and thus are off a bit. On 6/10/11, Greg Mandas wrote: > Any ideas on what MPG a 65 BJ8, non-restored motor should be getting? > I just did a highway mileage check and got 18. > > I'm thinking I should get better. I set the carbs up by the book. The plugs > are dirty brown, not black, but the exhaust smells rich and spits little > black > specks all over the trunk and my pants. > > Greg > 65BJ8 > > Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. > > > On Jun 9, 2011, at 8:52 AM, I Erbs wrote: > >> The cost of gas is the entry fee for driving my Healey. It has been over >> 20 >> years since it was a daily driver. Hitting the loud pedal is part of the >> fun. I have gotten 24+mpg and I have gotten 14+ mpg....depending on my >> mood;-) >> Cheers >> >> Ira Erbs >> IT Consultant >> Portland, OR >> >> sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections >> because >> my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write >> >> On Jun 9, 2011 2:36 AM, "Oudesluys" wrote: >>> It all comes down to the amount of lead in your RH shoe. An uprated >>> engine will usually be more efficient and will extract more power from >>> the same amount of fuel. This means that in theory you will use less >>> fuel travelling at the same constant speed. However, this is only true >>> if you use a feather light touch on the loud pedal but if there is the >>> extra power you tend to use it accelerating which will upset you MPG >> figure. >>> >>> Kees Oudesluijs >>> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name >> of coudesluijs.vcf] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From healeyguy at bredband.net Thu Jun 9 16:37:14 2011 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 00:37:14 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Moto-Lita, Mission accomplished! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DF14B1A.4020101@bredband.net> Good job Derek. And you got the correct steering wheel as well, with the three spokes located evenly. As your car is a 100/6 with overdrive I'm interested in what the numbers on your speedometer are. It's one of the combinations I'm missing in my research of the speedometer gearing. Next time you get to the car, can you please right them down for me. I can see that it's in MPH on the picture. Best, Per in Sweden From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 9 18:27:33 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:27:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> <4DF090D3.6050709@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4DF164F5.8020307@comcast.net> On my last 4K mile road trip we got about 23mpg @ 60mph average. Less (19) with the pedal down a little more or pulling a grade. Bob On 6/9/2011 1:36 PM, Greg Mandas wrote: > Any ideas on what MPG a 65 BJ8, non-restored motor should be getting? > I just did a highway mileage check and got 18. > > I'm thinking I should get better. I set the carbs up by the book. The plugs > are dirty brown, not black, but the exhaust smells rich and spits little black > specks all over the trunk and my pants. > > Greg > 65BJ8 > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Thu Jun 9 21:20:07 2011 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 03:20:07 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?hylomar?= Message-ID: <20110610032007.7516.qmail@server278.com> has anyone besides me used Permatex Motoseal (about 5 bucks)? my neigbor builds homebuilt airplanes and that is all he uses on his airplanes. says it stops just about every leak. i have used it on my engine and trans and so far it has not failed me. motorcycle and atv guys say it is just like yamalube, etc. i have not used hylomar so cannot compare the two products. hjim From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Thu Jun 9 21:47:43 2011 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 03:47:43 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?gas_mileage?= Message-ID: <20110610034743.4819.qmail@server278.com> before they started messing around with gasoline and ethanol, etc., i would get about 22-24 back and forth across the usa, depending on speed driven, naturally. now i am lucky if i get 18-20 on long hauls and i get about 14-15 around town, but i do not drive it like the family sedan, so i pay the price. as i told my friend with the BJ7 when he complained about gas mileage, "hey, its a sport car, and we are sports, what more do you want". hjim From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 22:45:37 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:45:37 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: <4DF164F5.8020307@comcast.net> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> <4DF090D3.6050709@chello.nl> <4DF164F5.8020307@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob - 23 mpg in a BJ8 is pretty impressive. When I had a high compression Mk 1 motor in my BJ8, I would get 22 all the time on the highway. But then I found and rebuilt a BJ8 motor and set it up to std spec. At first I'd get maybe 18, but over time maybe the best I could do was 20. The plane Jane BN1 I have, on the other hand, can typically do 25+. Cheers, Alan On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > On my last 4K mile road trip we got about 23mpg @ 60mph average. Less > (19) with the pedal down a little more or pulling a grade. > > Bob > > > > On 6/9/2011 1:36 PM, Greg Mandas wrote: > >> Any ideas on what MPG a 65 BJ8, non-restored motor should be getting? >> I just did a highway mileage check and got 18. >> >> I'm thinking I should get better. I set the carbs up by the book. The >> plugs >> are dirty brown, not black, but the exhaust smells rich and spits little >> black >> specks all over the trunk and my pants. >> >> Greg >> 65BJ8 From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 9 23:07:11 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 22:07:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> <4DF090D3.6050709@chello.nl> <4DF164F5.8020307@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4DF1A67F.2030000@comcast.net> We've gotten that for years, esp. on flat ground with a low speed limit--Oregon, Washington, BC, Alberta, etc.--and lots of speed traps. I thought I'd get better with the 3.54 rearend, but it didn't change mileage much. This as gas formulations have changed drastically. We got a tank of 100% premium (no alcohol) in OR; the gas looked and smelled completely different than the typical gasahol--it had a greenish tint, of all things--but I didn't notice any change in performance. We only got one tank so really couldn't make a mileage comparison. What really surprises me is oil consumption (read: leaked) has gone down over the years. Used to lose a quart every 1,500miles on the highway; this trip I used less than 2 qts. in 4K miles. The PCV valve seems to help a lot and, of course, as Gary has pointed out the scroll slinger works better on the highway. Bob On 6/9/2011 9:45 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Bob - > > 23 mpg in a BJ8 is pretty impressive. When I had a high compression Mk 1 motor in my BJ8, I would get 22 all the time > on the highway. But then I found and rebuilt a BJ8 motor and set it up to std spec. At first I'd get maybe 18, but > over time maybe the best I could do was 20. The plane Jane BN1 I have, on the other hand, can typically do 25+. > > Cheers, > > Alan > > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From edriver at sasktel.net Thu Jun 9 23:12:10 2011 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 23:12:10 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] gas mileage In-Reply-To: <20110610034743.4819.qmail@server278.com> References: <20110610034743.4819.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4DF1A7AA.6040807@sasktel.net> Hi Jim This is a tease of a question, and I must agree Magnus's comments. I have a road/rallye DWR camshaft and a few other modifications, in the city I average about 14 mpg (imperial measurement) while mixed town/country it is approximately 21 mpg. Straight highway driving at speeds between 70 to 75 mph I average 26-28mph ,the variation is related to wind direction and wind speed. In addition part of the low mpg in the city may also be attributed to the electronic fuel pump I am using, it is 4 psi rather than the recommended 2.7 psi. I have used albeit infrequently regular with approximately 10 percent ethanol and note a 2-4 mpg decline in performance. Kind regards Ed Saskatoon Historian, AHCUSA healeymanjim at hansencc.net wrote: > before they started messing around with gasoline and ethanol, etc., i would get about 22-24 back and forth across the usa, depending on speed driven, naturally. now i am lucky if i get 18-20 on long hauls and i get about 14-15 around town, but i do not drive it like the family sedan, so i pay the price. as i told my friend with the BJ7 when he complained about gas mileage, "hey, its a sport car, and we are sports, what more do you want". hjim > _______________________________________________ From britishcars at shaw.ca Fri Jun 10 00:00:55 2011 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:00:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] gas mileage In-Reply-To: <4DF1A7AA.6040807@sasktel.net> References: <20110610034743.4819.qmail@server278.com> <4DF1A7AA.6040807@sasktel.net> Message-ID: <00e801cc2733$c35402e0$49fc08a0$@ca> I have a fully modified 2.9ltr engine bored out to 3.2ltr 10.4:1 compression, triple webers and a 290 degree cam.....I'm averaging 10 mpg with a lead foot. I'm taking it to Rendezvous this year (400 miles) and I'm curious to see what I average. Paul -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of E.A. Driver Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 10:12 PM To: healeymanjim at hansencc.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] gas mileage Hi Jim This is a tease of a question, and I must agree Magnus's comments. I have a road/rallye DWR camshaft and a few other modifications, in the city I average about 14 mpg (imperial measurement) while mixed town/country it is approximately 21 mpg. Straight highway driving at speeds between 70 to 75 mph I average 26-28mph ,the variation is related to wind direction and wind speed. In addition part of the low mpg in the city may also be attributed to the electronic fuel pump I am using, it is 4 psi rather than the recommended 2.7 psi. I have used albeit infrequently regular with approximately 10 percent ethanol and note a 2-4 mpg decline in performance. Kind regards Ed Saskatoon Historian, AHCUSA healeymanjim at hansencc.net wrote: > before they started messing around with gasoline and ethanol, etc., i would get about 22-24 back and forth across the usa, depending on speed driven, naturally. now i am lucky if i get 18-20 on long hauls and i get about 14-15 around town, but i do not drive it like the family sedan, so i pay the price. as i told my friend with the BJ7 when he complained about gas mileage, "hey, its a sport car, and we are sports, what more do you want". hjim > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 00:32:55 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:32:55 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] gas mileage In-Reply-To: <00e801cc2733$c35402e0$49fc08a0$@ca> References: <20110610034743.4819.qmail@server278.com> <4DF1A7AA.6040807@sasktel.net> <00e801cc2733$c35402e0$49fc08a0$@ca> Message-ID: I think we have a winner! :) What sort of HP/torque does your motor put out? On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:00 PM, PG wrote: > I have a fully modified 2.9ltr engine bored out to 3.2ltr 10.4:1 > compression, triple webers and a 290 degree cam.....I'm averaging 10 mpg > with a lead foot. I'm taking it to Rendezvous this year (400 miles) and > I'm curious to see what I average. > > Paul From britishcars at shaw.ca Fri Jun 10 08:23:00 2011 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:23:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] gas mileage In-Reply-To: References: <20110610034743.4819.qmail@server278.com> <4DF1A7AA.6040807@sasktel.net> <00e801cc2733$c35402e0$49fc08a0$@ca> Message-ID: <002a01cc2779$e6ffc670$b4ff5350$@ca> Hi Alan, Never had it Dyno'd. However, Mathematically, it should be 210 on 94 octane. If I run 110 octane and advance the timing, I get a very significant bump in power. You going to the Rendezvous...I guess it's a long way from Toronto. paul From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 11:33 PM To: PG Cc: E.A. Driver; healeymanjim at hansencc.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] gas mileage I think we have a winner! :) What sort of HP/torque does your motor put out? On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:00 PM, PG wrote: I have a fully modified 2.9ltr engine bored out to 3.2ltr 10.4:1 compression, triple webers and a 290 degree cam.....I'm averaging 10 mpg with a lead foot. I'm taking it to Rendezvous this year (400 miles) and I'm curious to see what I average. Paul From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri Jun 10 09:50:14 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:50:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Need BJ8 inspected in Uxbridge, MA Message-ID: <001f01cc2786$16b874f0$44295ed0$@rr.com> Hello, Healeyphiles - Anyone reasonably near Uxbridge, Massachusetts/Rhode Island that can do an assessment of a BJ8 for a UK buyer? Please let me know. Thanks, Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From jstmorris at yahoo.com Fri Jun 10 10:54:39 2011 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Smiths Instruments in Big Healey Message-ID: <560607.9012.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Per; Here are a couple of files with the history of Smiths Instruments in the Big Healey. The files can also be found at the Austin Healey Club of Southern Ontario web site. Links are below. http://www.ahcso.com/pdfs/S.%20Smith%20&%20Sons-Austin%20Healey.pdf http://www.ahcso.com/pdfs/smiths_parts_list_austin_healey_big.pdf Hope these help you. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --- On Thu, 6/9/11, Per Schoerner wrote: << ...... As your [Derek Job] car is a 100/6 with overdrive I'm interested in what the numbers on your speedometer are. It's one of the combinations I'm missing in my research of the speedometer gearing. Next time you get to the car, can you please right them down for me. I can see that it's in MPH on the picture. >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of S.] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Smiths] From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 10 11:51:04 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:51:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Musings References: , <72533.63732.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, , <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627BF@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com>, , Message-ID: <002001cc2796$f879c7d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Damn you guys are killing me. I wasn't even gonna open this thread up but I did. Now I can't stop reading this thread. I can only hope that some day my daughter will appreciate the fact that I am hanging on to an MGB-GT in hopes that some day she will be ready to invest some time an money in it. Sure would be a ton-o-fun even though she doesn't know the first thing about turning a wrench .. But she sure enjoyed the times we spent toolin around town in the MGA when she was little. Tried to teach her to drive a stick once, at least we were still talking after that. Time will only tell. At least I can still drive her around in my cars if she decides she doesn't want one of her own. But then she is getting married next year. I might have to start planting the LBC seed in her fiancis head. One trip around town in the Healey should take care of that situation. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "healey help" Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Musings > That's kinda how my two boys got into it. > I came home from work back in the sixties, in the country, to surprise > them as > they had taken my rider mower, stripped it down, took off the deck and > blade, > took off the governor and were racing down the hill. > They have always loved working on cars. The youngest did the body and > paint > work on my BJ7 and has his own restoration business in Georgia. This > always > provides me an enjoyment. Last year he finished a 1967 Mustang GT500 and > asked > me to take it for a spin. He had to press me to really "put to the petal > to > the metal". Damn, that car was fast. > Bill > BJ7 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Fri Jun 10 12:51:28 2011 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:51:28 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Musings Message-ID: <2054.3e4d4cb6.3b23c1b0@aol.com> Over twenty years ago, I sold my third Austin Healey to pay for a vasectomy reversal. My daughter, Austen, is soon to be twenty-one years old and graduating from college in New Zealand. I now have my fourth Austin-Healey and my daughter loves it. She still hasn't driven it, as she is afraid of the old three speed manual, but she has helped from time to time with the maintenance and every time I would return from a drive, she said she loved the way it would make the garage smell. I'm hoping to get her behind the wheel after she graduates and returns home, so we'll see, but if she doesn't, one of my grand daughters is waiting in the wings and chomping at the bit the drive grandpa's little red car. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 6/10/2011 11:19:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lapierrem at sbcglobal.net writes: Damn you guys are killing me. I wasn't even gonna open this thread up but I did. Now I can't stop reading this thread. I can only hope that some day my daughter will appreciate the fact that I am hanging on to an MGB-GT in hopes that some day she will be ready to invest some time an money in it. Sure would be a ton-o-fun even though she doesn't know the first thing about turning a wrench .. But she sure enjoyed the times we spent toolin around town in the MGA when she was little. Tried to teach her to drive a stick once, at least we were still talking after that. Time will only tell. At least I can still drive her around in my cars if she decides she doesn't want one of her own. But then she is getting married next year. I might have to start planting the LBC seed in her fiancis head. One trip around town in the Healey should take care of that situation. Mark From MBran89793 at aol.com Fri Jun 10 13:02:58 2011 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:02:58 EDT Subject: [Healeys] gas mileage Message-ID: <5095e.1487711e.3b23c462@aol.com> I'm curious too. In a message dated 6/10/2011 2:56:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, healey.nut at gmail.com writes: I'm curious to see what I average. From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jun 10 13:46:26 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:46:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: <2054.3e4d4cb6.3b23c1b0@aol.com> References: <2054.3e4d4cb6.3b23c1b0@aol.com> Message-ID: <006601cc27a7$16249660$426dc320$@net> I guess I'm a pretty lucky guy. Not only has my wife been in tune with the various Healeys we've owned over the years, but our older son, Geoff has always been keen on them, right from watching and mimicking what I'd be doing in the garage at age 3 or so, and soaking up all the knowledge and trivia he could find about these cars as the years passed. Today he's working all the way across the country from home, in a leading upholstery supplier's shop, developing and making Healey, jaguar, Mercedes, Porsche, etc. seat and upholstery patterns, refining things, and is the major builder of the seats and various other trimming components for customers. Back in '09 when the Southern Ontario chapter hosted Conclave in Kingston Ontario, he flew home and went with us for the week, and was one of the Concours judging scribes. His younger brother, Don, isn't hands on with the cars, but sure loves riding in them and being around them. Lucky dad, Rich From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jun 10 14:07:46 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:07:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Musings Message-ID: <007901cc27aa$11151660$333f4320$@net> I guess I'm a pretty lucky guy. Not only has my wife been in tune with the various Healeys we've owned over the years, but our older son, Geoff has always been keen on them, right from watching and mimicking what I'd be doing in the garage at age 3 or so, and soaking up all the knowledge and trivia he could find about these cars as the years passed. Today he's working all the way across the country from home, in a leading upholstery supplier's shop, developing and making Healey, jaguar, Mercedes, Porsche, etc. seat and upholstery patterns, refining things, and is the major builder of the seats and various other trimming components for customers. Back in '09 when the Southern Ontario chapter hosted Conclave in Kingston Ontario, he flew home and went with us for the week, and was one of the Concours judging scribes. His younger brother, Don, isn't hands on with the cars, but sure loves riding in them and being around them. Lucky dad, Rich From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jun 10 14:18:17 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:18:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: <4DF164F5.8020307@comcast.net> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED627AB@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> <4530C379-FA53-46AF-B93F-437D82BF4F82@bornet.net> <4DF090D3.6050709@chello.nl> <4DF164F5.8020307@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007a01cc27ab$88d31ed0$9a795c70$@net> I recall a specific run back in 1983, westbound on I-94 headed for the '83 Conclave at Oconomowoc, Wis. We travelled across southern Michigan, Indiana and into Illinois. Three Healeys all running together. We all filled up at the same service station, got back on I-94 and drove for a number of hours, exited just short of the Chicago Loop to refuel. We'd been doing a steady nonstop run, doing 65 to 75 MPH, so all conditions were exactly the same, and 2 adults per car. The three cars were all stock and in good condition and fuel results were as follows: 1958 100/Six series BN6, 19.5 MPG 1961 3000 series BN7, 24.5 MPG 1962 3000 series BT7 Mk 2 tricarb, 27.5 MPG. Interesting results, of course long before the corn gas was introduced, and we even had the luxury of leaded fuel at the time. Rich Chrysler From npaul72464 at aol.com Fri Jun 10 14:55:11 2011 From: npaul72464 at aol.com (npaul72464 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] gas mileage In-Reply-To: <5095e.1487711e.3b23c462@aol.com> References: <5095e.1487711e.3b23c462@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CDF5C7D2D13A7E-17D0-4E951@angweb-usd004.sysops.aol.com> My son and I took my 1960 BN7 from Rochester NY to the Grand Canyon, 5200 miles, and averaged between 22 and 23 MPG. Ned paulsen -----Original Message----- From: MBran89793 To: healey.nut ; britishcars Cc: healeys Sent: Fri, Jun 10, 2011 3:34 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] gas mileage I'm curious too. In a message dated 6/10/2011 2:56:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, healey.nut at gmail.com writes: I'm curious to see what I average. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/npaul72464 at aol.com From gmandas at yahoo.com Fri Jun 10 15:52:40 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: <4DF164F5.8020307@comcast.net> Message-ID: <235691.63200.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> LOL, Maybe that answers it. I wasn't doing 60. For the trip back I was caught up in Sunday coming home from the cape, I-95 traffic, 75/80. --- On Thu, 6/9/11, Bob Spidell wrote: > From: Bob Spidell > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG > To: "Greg Mandas" > Cc: "I Erbs" , "Healey Lista" > Date: Thursday, June 9, 2011, 8:27 PM > On my last 4K mile road trip we > got about 23mpg @ 60mph average. Less (19) with > the pedal down a little more or > pulling a grade. > > Bob > > > On 6/9/2011 1:36 PM, Greg Mandas wrote: > > Any ideas on what MPG a 65 BJ8, non-restored motor > should be getting? > > I just did a highway mileage check and got 18. > > > > I'm thinking I should get better. I set the carbs up > by the book. The plugs > > are dirty brown, not black, but the exhaust smells > rich and spits little black > > specks all over the trunk and my pants. > > > > Greg > > 65BJ8 > > > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell > San Jose, CA > bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* From gmandas at yahoo.com Fri Jun 10 16:02:07 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: <4DF1A67F.2030000@comcast.net> Message-ID: <620526.79403.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Thanks for the confirmation. I'm feeling better, but from other responses I think I'll find a friendly garage and get the emissions checked. As for the oil, I found I started using less oil if I didn't fill it up every time it was a quart low. I'd fill it up, go around the block and I'd be quart low where it would stay for awhile. I figure with a 15 pint sump, I'm not in danger of breaking anything. Greg --- On Fri, 6/10/11, Bob Spidell wrote: > From: Bob Spidell > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG > To: "Alan Seigrist" > Cc: "Greg Mandas" , "Healey Lista" > Date: Friday, June 10, 2011, 1:07 AM > We've gotten that for years, esp. on > flat ground with a low speed limit--Oregon, Washington, BC, > Alberta, etc.--and lots of speed traps. I thought I'd > get better with the 3.54 rearend, but it didn't change > mileage much. This as gas formulations have > changed drastically. We got a tank of 100% premium (no > alcohol) in OR; the gas looked and smelled completely > different than the typical gasahol--it had a greenish tint, > of all things--but I didn't notice any change in > performance. We only got one tank so really couldn't > make a mileage comparison. > > What really surprises me is oil consumption (read: leaked) > has gone down over the years. Used to lose > a quart every 1,500miles on the highway; this trip I used > less than 2 qts. in 4K miles. The PCV valve seems to > help a lot and, of course, as Gary has pointed out the > scroll slinger works better on the highway. > > Bob > > > On 6/9/2011 9:45 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > > Bob - > > > > 23 mpg in a BJ8 is pretty impressive. When I had > a high compression Mk 1 motor in my BJ8, I would get 22 all > the time on the highway. But then I found and rebuilt > a BJ8 motor and set it up to std spec. At first I'd > get maybe 18, but over time maybe the best I could do was > 20. The plane Jane BN1 I have, on the other hand, can > typically do 25+. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell > San Jose, CA > bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* From gmandas at yahoo.com Fri Jun 10 16:34:54 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: <2054.3e4d4cb6.3b23c1b0@aol.com> Message-ID: <189780.62623.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I didn't have the BJ8 until our daughter was out of college working. Even though she liked cars and driving, she didn't really know what love was until she can home one vacation and we drove the Big Healey. The first thing she said was, "This car is mine." We were talked about what she could get until the Healey was hers and she did some Googling of old cars when she said, "I really like the looks of old Porsches. As with all things with our children, it's a beginning. Greg --- On Fri, 6/10/11, ATIGHTPROD at aol.com wrote: > From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Musings > To: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net, healeys at Autox.Team.Net > Date: Friday, June 10, 2011, 2:51 PM > Over twenty years ago, I sold my > third Austin Healey to pay for a vasectomy > reversal. My daughter, Austen, is soon to be twenty-one > years old and > graduating from college in New Zealand. I now have my > fourth Austin-Healey and > my daughter loves it. She still hasn't driven it, as > she is afraid of the > old three speed manual, but she has helped from time > to time with the > maintenance and every time I would return from a > drive, she said she loved the > way it would make the garage smell. I'm hoping to get > her behind the wheel > after she graduates and returns home, so we'll see, > but if she doesn't, one > of my grand daughters is waiting in the wings and > chomping at the bit the > drive grandpa's little red car. > > Steven Kingsbury > BN1 #598 > > > > In a message dated 6/10/2011 11:19:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight > Time, > lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > writes: > > Damn you guys are killing me. I > wasn't even gonna open this thread up > but > I did. Now I can't stop reading this > thread. I can only hope that some > day my daughter will appreciate the fact that I am > hanging on to an MGB-GT > in hopes that some day she will be ready to invest > some time an money in > it. > Sure would be a ton-o-fun even though she doesn't > know the > first thing about turning a wrench .. But she sure > enjoyed the times we > spent toolin around town in the MGA when she was > little. > > Tried to teach her to drive a stick once, at least > we were still talking > after that. > > Time will only tell. At least I can still drive > her around in my cars if > she > decides she doesn't want one of her own. > > But then she is getting married next year. I > might have to start > planting > the LBC seed in her fiancis head. One trip around > town in the Healey > should > take care of that situation. > > Mark > _______________________________________________ From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Jun 10 16:54:15 2011 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:54:15 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] gas mileage In-Reply-To: <5095e.1487711e.3b23c462@aol.com> References: <5095e.1487711e.3b23c462@aol.com> Message-ID: G'day I have been returning between 21 and 21.6 MPG for years. However that is a 2.6 litre engine bored out to 2.9 and the G is imperial gallons, not the anaemic US version. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MBran89793 at aol.com Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2011 5:03 AM To: healey.nut at gmail.com; britishcars at shaw.ca Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] gas mileage I'm curious too. In a message dated 6/10/2011 2:56:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, healey.nut at gmail.com writes: I'm curious to see what I average. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au From bn1 at pacbell.net Fri Jun 10 17:20:45 2011 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:20:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Musings In-Reply-To: <2054.3e4d4cb6.3b23c1b0@aol.com> References: <2054.3e4d4cb6.3b23c1b0@aol.com> Message-ID: <4DF2A6CD.2030509@pacbell.net> And best of luck to you, Steven! In case you don't recognize his name, he is the producer of the excellent 2 DVD set of Team Healey's Return to Bonneville and more recently, his interview with Gerry Coker. And if you still don't recognize him, pick up any Good Housekeeping or such national magazine with the Cottonelle Ultra toilet paper ad and you'll see his beautiful BN1 #598. You can draw your own conclusions about his daughter Austen's quote: "...and every time I would return from a drive, she said she loved the way it would make the garage smell." ;-) Bill Barnett '53 BN1 #663 '61 BT7 -- When I was younger, I could remember anything whether it had happened or not. But now my facilities are decaying and soon I shall be so I cannot remember anything but the things that never happened. - Mark Twain On 6/10/2011 11:51 AM, ATIGHTPROD at aol.com wrote: > Over twenty years ago, I sold my third Austin Healey to pay for a vasectomy > reversal. My daughter, Austen, is soon to be twenty-one years old and > graduating from college in New Zealand. I now have my fourth Austin-Healey and > my daughter loves it. She still hasn't driven it, as she is afraid of the > old three speed manual, but she has helped from time to time with the > maintenance and every time I would return from a drive, she said she loved the > way it would make the garage smell. I'm hoping to get her behind the wheel > after she graduates and returns home, so we'll see, but if she doesn't, one > of my grand daughters is waiting in the wings and chomping at the bit the > drive grandpa's little red car. > > Steven Kingsbury > BN1 #598 From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jun 10 17:22:03 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 23:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: <235691.63200.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <296377547.1472167.1307748123910.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Power required increases proportional to the square of the speed increase; e.g. it takes four times the power and, roughly, the fuel to go twice as fast. Bob LOL, Maybe that answers it. I wasn't doing 60. For the trip back I was caught up in Sunday coming home from the cape, I-95 traffic, 75/80. From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jun 10 17:23:38 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 23:23:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] gas mileage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1314355796.1472205.1307748218904.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Not bad considering you're always driving uphill. Bob G'day I have been returning between 21 and 21.6 MPG for years. However that is a 2.6 litre engine bored out to 2.9 and the G is imperial gallons, not the anaemic US version. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From rrengineer.mike at att.net Fri Jun 10 17:54:00 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Smiths Instruments in Big Healey In-Reply-To: <560607.9012.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <560607.9012.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <193803.47954.qm@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Scott, After inspecting the instruments I have had rebuilt for my BN2 restoration I find the combo gauge (oil & water) numbered GD1500-29 and the one listed in the PDF as GD1500-30 for the BN2. What gauge do I have? Will it still work correctly? Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 >________________________________ > > > >Hi Per; Here are a couple of files with the history of Smiths Instruments in >the Big Healey. >The files can also be found at the Austin Healey Club of Southern Ontario web >site. > >Links are below. >http://www.ahcso.com/pdfs/S.%20Smith%20&%20Sons-Austin%20Healey.pdf > >http://www.ahcso.com/pdfs/smiths_parts_list_austin_healey_big.pdf > >Hope these help you. > >--Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, >Murphy Lives From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jun 10 18:14:04 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:14:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: <620526.79403.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <620526.79403.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DF2B34C.3060601@comcast.net> Common phenomenon in airplanes. Many smaller engines--up to 360ci--have an 8-qt. sump, but won't hold more than 6 qts for long. Most, also, spec a minimum of 4 qts and will run, for a while anyway, on 2. I put 7 qts in the BJ8 when I change the oil (calls for 7.5). Bob On 6/10/2011 3:02 PM, Greg Mandas wrote: > Thanks for the confirmation. I'm feeling better, but from other responses I think I'll find a friendly garage and get the emissions checked. > > As for the oil, I found I started using less oil if I didn't fill it up every time it was a quart low. I'd fill it up, go around the block and I'd be quart low where it would stay for awhile. I figure with a 15 pint sump, I'm not in danger of breaking anything. > > Greg > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 20:06:08 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:06:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] moss interior video Message-ID: Please email me off list, if you can loan me the Moss interior installation video? Thanks -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Fri Jun 10 20:12:39 2011 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:12:39 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] 123 distributor (GB6) in BJ8 Message-ID: <5439C6F700944DFABD1647BE816F61A2@Notebook> Gbday list A friend of mine is putting a 123 distributor in his Bj8. The circuit diagram that comes with it shows a ballast resistor with the coil. Is this essential for the 123 distributor? (The instructions donbt mention this, just recommend using a new coil) Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Fri Jun 10 22:38:54 2011 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 04:38:54 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?starting_problem?= Message-ID: <20110611043854.20340.qmail@server278.com> have noticed the past few months that many times when the starter on the bj8 spins it will not start till i let off the key from the start position. does not do it all the time, but enough to get me concerned. could this be a ground problem or corrosion somewhere? starter seems to spin engine at same speed as before, but it takes longer to start unless i let off the key. need some ideas on where to start solving the problem. hjim From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jun 10 23:38:13 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:38:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] starting problem In-Reply-To: <20110611043854.20340.qmail@server278.com> References: <20110611043854.20340.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4DF2FF45.5070201@comcast.net> Jim, Don't understand this ... when you move the key from the start position the engine would quit turning over. Are you saying that's when it starts? My SWAG is battery--even though it turns the engine over the voltage drop from driving the starter may weaken the spark. How old is your battery? Bob On 6/10/2011 9:38 PM, healeymanjim at hansencc.net wrote: > have noticed the past few months that many times when the starter on the bj8 spins it will not start till i let off the key from the start position. does not do it all the time, but enough to get me concerned. could this be a ground problem or corrosion somewhere? starter seems to spin engine at same speed as before, but it takes longer to start unless i let off the key. need some ideas on where to start solving the problem. hjim -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jun 11 01:40:08 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:40:08 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Smiths Instruments in Big Healey In-Reply-To: <193803.47954.qm@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <560607.9012.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <193803.47954.qm@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DF31BD8.5080309@chello.nl> These gauges are mechanical so they will always work correctly if they are in good order in whatever car they are fitted. The calibration may not always be very accurate after such a long life of service though and should be checked. Kees Oudesluijs [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jun 11 01:49:49 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:49:49 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 123 distributor (GB6) in BJ8 In-Reply-To: <5439C6F700944DFABD1647BE816F61A2@Notebook> References: <5439C6F700944DFABD1647BE816F61A2@Notebook> Message-ID: <4DF31E1D.8010809@chello.nl> The ballast resistor is probably necessary. The electronic ignition requires a certain given resistance over the coil with or without the ballast resistor (in series), usually this is around 3 Ohms. Often the coil is around 1,5 Ohms which means you need a resistor of 1,5 Ohms. If you have a coil with a resistance of 3 Ohms you will be OK, if lower you have to get a set of coil and resistor because these coils basically are 6V items being in series with the resistor. Check carefully in your fitting instructions. Failing to fit the ballast resistor may fry the 123 ignition. Kees Oudesluijs [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jun 11 02:03:26 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:03:26 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] starting problem In-Reply-To: <20110611043854.20340.qmail@server278.com> References: <20110611043854.20340.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4DF3214E.6010500@chello.nl> This is often an ignition problem. During starting the voltage drops hence a lesser spark. Check / clean / regap / renew spark plugs and points. Also have the battery checked and check the earth strap to the engine. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 02:11:50 2011 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:11:50 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 123 distributor (GB6) in BJ8 In-Reply-To: <5439C6F700944DFABD1647BE816F61A2@Notebook> References: <5439C6F700944DFABD1647BE816F61A2@Notebook> Message-ID: Peter, I built a 123 in my BJ8 and didn't use a ballast resistor. That's four years ago now, and the engine still purrs like a cat. After Vredestein tires and Koni shock absorbers, 123 ignition is the third thing in the world you all should thank the Dutch for! Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2011/6/11 Peter & Veronica > Gb day list > > A friend of mine is putting a 123 distributor in his Bj8. The circuit > diagram > that comes with it shows a ballast resistor with the coil. Is this > essential > for the 123 distributor? (The instructions donb t mention this, just > recommend using a new coil) > > Cheers > > Peter Linn > Brisbane Oz > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/j.aeckerlin at gmail.com From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sat Jun 11 02:17:05 2011 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:17:05 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Is There a Circlip? Message-ID: <60A0714CBE9A4484A39B1287FB6DB14B@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Look it's been 30 years since I put the steering wheel on. You really don't expect me to remember do you? Attempted to remove the steering wheel from the BN3 this arvo. Nothing special, it's a non adjustable steering set up. Everything undone, nut removed as is the trafficator and stator tube. The steering wheel is loose and can be moved about 1 centimetre, but stops with a decided clunk as if it's being stopped by a circlip. I have looked through the archives. Is it a matter of using a bigger hammer? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jun 11 04:17:12 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:17:12 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 123 distributor (GB6) in BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: <5439C6F700944DFABD1647BE816F61A2@Notebook> Message-ID: <4DF340A8.8040808@chello.nl> Jaap, I agree with Koni and 123 Ignition, but Vredestein? Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From bengaard at 850r.dk Sat Jun 11 04:37:57 2011 From: bengaard at 850r.dk (Niels Bengaard) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:37:57 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] starting problem In-Reply-To: <20110611043854.20340.qmail@server278.com> References: <20110611043854.20340.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <501D4D583009446785547C6338725EAC@NIB> Try checking if you got spark at all during startup. I had a similar problem and it was the electric cut off switch in the trunk. The power to ignition from the switch is seperate from the power to the starter. If i put my switch in the outer positions the power to the ignition is bad, it seems like all got to the starter motor. I just turn it a bit away from that position and theres is power on both ignition and starter at the same time. Niels -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 6:38 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] starting problem have noticed the past few months that many times when the starter on the bj8 spins it will not start till i let off the key from the start position. does not do it all the time, but enough to get me concerned. could this be a ground problem or corrosion somewhere? starter seems to spin engine at same speed as before, but it takes longer to start unless i let off the key. need some ideas on where to start solving the problem. hjim _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bengaard at 850r.dk From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 05:42:15 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 07:42:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] starting problem In-Reply-To: <501D4D583009446785547C6338725EAC@NIB> References: <20110611043854.20340.qmail@server278.com> <501D4D583009446785547C6338725EAC@NIB> Message-ID: Niels-- The switch does not provide apportion power or provide it to the ignition--it both makes or breaks the car's ground and grounds or not the coil. If you have to play with the switch's position in order to start the car then it is clearly on the way out and should be tossed immediately. Best--Michael Oritt On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:37 AM, Niels Bengaard wrote: > Try checking if you got spark at all during startup. > I had a similar problem and it was the electric cut off switch in the > trunk. The power to ignition from the switch is seperate from the power to > the starter. > If i put my switch in the outer positions the power to the ignition is bad, > it seems like all got to the starter motor. I just turn it a bit away from > that position and theres is power on both ignition and starter at the same > time. > > Niels > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 6:38 AM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] starting problem > > have noticed the past few months that many times when the starter on the > bj8 spins it will not start till i let off the key from the start position. > does not do it all the time, but enough to get me concerned. could this be > a ground problem or corrosion somewhere? starter seems to spin engine at > same speed as before, but it takes longer to start unless i let off the key. > need some ideas on where to start solving the problem. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bengaard at 850r.dk_______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From austin.healey at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 08:03:18 2011 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 00:03:18 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Le Mans Message-ID: In 1991, I had the opportunity to spend a few days going to, and attending, the 24 heur de Le Mans. I just realised, that was 20 years ago today. I want to relive it!! Bugger. I've missed the Cognac for breakfast. But I'll stay up and watch the television!!! :-) Chris Sent from my iPhone From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 11 08:28:25 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 07:28:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] starting problem In-Reply-To: <20110611043854.20340.qmail@server278.com> References: <20110611043854.20340.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4C0A4F05-6E8E-4F66-8F3D-2CBCDA6FA443@sbcglobal.net> You probably have bad connection in the ignition switch. When you crank the engine check for power at the white wire on the fuse box. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca www.britishcarspecialists.com On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:38 PM, wrote: > have noticed the past few months that many times when the starter on the bj8 spins it will not start till i let off the key from the start position. does not do it all the time, but enough to get me concerned. could this be a ground problem or corrosion somewhere? starter seems to spin engine at same speed as before, but it takes longer to start unless i let off the key. need some ideas on where to start solving the problem. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jun 11 08:51:35 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 07:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Is There a Circlip? In-Reply-To: <60A0714CBE9A4484A39B1287FB6DB14B@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <850767.46505.qm@web161207.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Patrick, There IS a circlip. Go here and look at #16: http://mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=28890 Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 6/11/11, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote: From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn Subject: [Healeys] Is There a Circlip? To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 4:17 AM G'day Look it's been 30 years since I put the steering wheel on. You really don't expect me to remember do you? Attempted to remove the steering wheel from the BN3 this arvo. Nothing special, it's a non adjustable steering set up. Everything undone, nut removed as is the trafficator and stator tube. The steering wheel is loose and can be moved about 1 centimetre, but stops with a decided clunk as if it's being stopped by a circlip. I have looked through the archives. Is it a matter of using a bigger hammer? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 08:52:10 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 07:52:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Is There a Circlip? In-Reply-To: <60A0714CBE9A4484A39B1287FB6DB14B@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <60A0714CBE9A4484A39B1287FB6DB14B@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: Memory says there might be a set screw. Look for a small hole in base of steering wheel for said screw. Or I could be confused.... I just woke up I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jun 11, 2011, at 1:17 AM, "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" wrote: > G'day > > > > Look it's been 30 years since I put the steering wheel on. You really don't > expect me to remember do you? > > > > Attempted to remove the steering wheel from the BN3 this arvo. Nothing > special, it's a non adjustable steering set up. > > > > Everything undone, nut removed as is the trafficator and stator tube. The > steering wheel is loose and can be moved about 1 centimetre, but stops with > a decided clunk as if it's being stopped by a circlip. > > > > I have looked through the archives. Is it a matter of using a bigger hammer? > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Sydney, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From MBran89793 at aol.com Sat Jun 11 09:13:45 2011 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:13:45 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Le Mans Message-ID: <44891.12429742.3b24e029@aol.com> We have been watching the coverage on "Speed." The first segment of coverage 8:30-11:30 AM EDST. Saw the terrible crash of the #3 Audi and the driver walked away. It was really fortunate that there were no injuries. Currently back running after a long CAUTION. Next segment is 3:30-8:30 PM EDST. In a message dated 6/11/2011 11:01:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, austin.healey at gmail.com writes: But I'll stay up and watch the television!!! From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jun 11 09:31:30 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Le Mans In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <414246.67201.qm@web161219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> The crash by McNish's Audi had all the potential of an epic disaster of 1955 proportions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Nb0Ienv6k Tires going into the crowd and slo-mo shows the tub doing a virtual vertical pirouette on top of the safety barrier. If it had made it over the barrier, there would have been spectator fatalities for sure. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 6/11/11, Chris Dimmock wrote: From: Chris Dimmock Subject: [Healeys] Le Mans To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 10:03 AM In 1991, I had the opportunity to spend a few days going to, and attending, the 24 heur de Le Mans. I just realised, that was 20 years ago today. I want to relive it!! Bugger. I've missed the Cognac for breakfast. But I'll stay up and watch the television!!! :-) Chris Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From jstmorris at yahoo.com Sat Jun 11 09:43:20 2011 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Smiths Instruments in Big Healey In-Reply-To: <193803.47954.qm@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <658730.49243.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Michael; After checking with a number of current supplier catalogues and confirming with the original Smiths Instruments catalogue of 1962, both GD1500/29 and GD1500/30 are listed. The current suppliers give /29 and the Smiths /30. The best I can say is you seem to have the correct safety gauge [oil pressure/water temperature]. The pdf files need to be updated to indicate this; I just need to find a good original information source. What I don't want to do is perpetuate any errors; that is why I try to use original documentation from 'the day'. :-) --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --- On Fri, 6/10/11, Michael MacLean wrote:<< Scott, After inspecting the instruments I have had rebuilt for my BN2 restoration I find the combo gauge (oil & water) numbered GD1500-29 and the one listed in the PDF as GD1500-30 for the BN2. What gauge do I have? Will it still work correctly? Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 >> From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 10:03:18 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:03:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Is There a Circlip? In-Reply-To: <850767.46505.qm@web161207.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <60A0714CBE9A4484A39B1287FB6DB14B@PatrickQuinnPC> <850767.46505.qm@web161207.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I did say I just woke up :( wonder what car had the set screw???? On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 7:51 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > Patrick, > > There IS a circlip. Go here and look at #16: > http://mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=28890 > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Sat, 6/11/11, Patrick and Caroline Quinn > wrote: > > From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn > Subject: [Healeys] Is There a Circlip? > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 4:17 AM > > G'day > > > > Look it's been 30 years since I put the steering wheel on. You really don't > expect me to remember do you? > > > > Attempted to remove the steering wheel from the BN3 this arvo. Nothing > special, it's a non adjustable steering set up. > > > > Everything undone, nut removed as is the trafficator and stator tube. The > steering wheel is loose and can be moved about 1 centimetre, but stops with > a decided clunk as if it's being stopped by a circlip. > > > > I have looked through the archives. Is it a matter of using a bigger > hammer? > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Sydney, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 13:12:11 2011 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:12:11 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 123 distributor (GB6) in BJ8 In-Reply-To: <4FC4F722716341B4A21751852E3C8EC1@FAHRSPASS1> References: <5439C6F700944DFABD1647BE816F61A2@Notebook> <4FC4F722716341B4A21751852E3C8EC1@FAHRSPASS1> Message-ID: Come on, Udo, back to school! Fricandels OK, but Fritches (I take it you mean Frietjes, French Fries) are Belgian specialities and Zolder is a Belgian racetrack. Belgium is a different country from Holland, although we are neighbours/neighbors. Jack Aeckerlin, THE NETHERLANDS (not Belgium) 2011/6/11 Udo Putzke > Jaap > > I would say:"Fricandels, Fritches and Zolder. > > Udo Putzke > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Jaap Aeckerlin > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 1:12 AM > To: Peter & Veronica; Healey forum > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 123 distributor (GB6) in BJ8 > > Peter, I built a 123 in my BJ8 and didn't use a ballast resistor. That's > four years ago now, and the engine still purrs like a cat. After Vredestein > tires and Koni shock absorbers, 123 ignition is the third thing in the > world > you all should thank the Dutch for! > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > 1964 BJ8 29432 > > 2011/6/11 Peter & Veronica > > > Gb day list > > > > A friend of mine is putting a 123 distributor in his Bj8. The circuit > > diagram > > that comes with it shows a ballast resistor with the coil. Is this > > essential > > for the 123 distributor? (The instructions donb t mention this, just > > recommend using a new coil) > > > > Cheers > > > > Peter Linn > > Brisbane Oz > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/j.aeckerlin at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mrjaja at cox.net From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 11 14:27:46 2011 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Adi Crash at Le Mans Message-ID: <657832.7054.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Nb0Ienv6k From raymead at comcast.net Sat Jun 11 15:29:15 2011 From: raymead at comcast.net (raymead at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] refill a radiator? Message-ID: <1551565775.1789349.1307827755122.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> hello all, I just replaced the radiator - so I totally drained the system. It is now time to refill the system (radiator, engine, heater, etc., etc) and I was wondering if there is some sort of "process" that is recommended?? Something like (for example):B Fill it part way, start the car, let the water start circulating, add more water, etc., etc, or something like that?B B Or do I just fill the radiator and start the car????B B (Anti-freeze will, of course, be part of the "water" adding process). Any thoughts/suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated). tks, ray From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 16:07:08 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:07:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] refill a radiator? In-Reply-To: <1551565775.1789349.1307827755122.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1551565775.1789349.1307827755122.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: MIX your h2o anti freeze formula with distilled water. Fill radiTor , leave cap off, top off after thermostat opens and water goes through engine and heater. When level stabllizes put on rad cap. Run for z whule. Shut off cool down. The open and top off. Be sure engine is cool before opening cap. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 11, 2011 3:02 PM, wrote: > hello all, > > > > I just replaced the radiator - so I totally drained the system. > It is now time to refill the system (radiator, engine, heater, etc., etc) and > I was wondering if there is some sort of "process" that is recommended?? > > > > Something like (for example):B Fill it part way, start the car, let the water > start circulating, add more water, etc., etc, or something like that?B B Or > do I just fill the radiator and start the car????B B (Anti-freeze will, of > course, be part of the "water" adding process). > > > > Any thoughts/suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated). > > tks, ray > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jun 11 16:12:06 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Now Second Audi Crash at Le Mans In-Reply-To: <657832.7054.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <589261.20186.qm@web161218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Tough race for the Audis. This one was serious as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SETNVd7k1E Rockenfeller said to have got out on his own. Speed differential of the different classes at LeMans has always been a safety factor but seems to be even more so as speeds get ever higher. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 6/11/11, Bob Brown wrote: From: Bob Brown Subject: [Healeys] Adi Crash at Le Mans To: "Healey List" Cc: "Bob McElwee" , "Greg Brown" Date: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 4:27 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Nb0Ienv6k _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From warthodson at aol.com Sat Jun 11 16:37:37 2011 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:37:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Is There a Circlip? In-Reply-To: <850767.46505.qm@web161207.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CDF69F4CA39DA3-1B08-6EDC5@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> Only the adjustable steering column uses a circlip to keep the steering wheel on. Also, The set (grub) screws are used to seat the trafficator only on adjustable steering columns. After removing the trafficator, the only thing holding the steering wheel on a non-adjustable column is a nut & washer. To remove the wheel from a non-adjustable column I quote the shop manual, "A sharp jerk should be sufficient to release the steering wheel." Now all you have to find is a sharp jerk in your area. I don't qualify on the first count. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: HealeyRick To: healeys at autox.team.net; Patrick and Caroline Quinn p_cquinn at tpg.com.au) Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:51 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Is There a Circlip? Patrick, There IS a circlip. Go here and look at #16: ttp://mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=28890 Rick ollow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 6/11/11, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote: From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn ubject: [Healeys] Is There a Circlip? o: healeys at autox.team.net ate: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 4:17 AM G'day Look it's been 30 years since I put the steering wheel on. You really don't xpect me to remember do you? Attempted to remove the steering wheel from the BN3 this arvo. Nothing pecial, it's a non adjustable steering set up. Everything undone, nut removed as is the trafficator and stator tube. The teering wheel is loose and can be moved about 1 centimetre, but stops with decided clunk as if it's being stopped by a circlip. I have looked through the archives. Is it a matter of using a bigger hammer? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 20:47:55 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:47:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] refill a radiator? In-Reply-To: References: <1551565775.1789349.1307827755122.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I drill a small hole in thermostats (1/8" diameter or so) which allows the entire cooling system to be filled without having to run the engine until the thermo opens and fill again, etc. Best--Michael Oritt On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:07 PM, I Erbs wrote: > MIX your h2o anti freeze formula with distilled water. Fill radiTor , leave > cap off, top off after thermostat opens and water goes through engine and > heater. When level stabllizes put on rad cap. Run for z whule. Shut off > cool down. The open and top off. Be sure engine is cool before opening cap. > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > > On Jun 11, 2011 3:02 PM, wrote: > > hello all, > > > > > > > > I just replaced the radiator - so I totally drained the system. > > It is now time to refill the system (radiator, engine, heater, etc., etc) > and > > I was wondering if there is some sort of "process" that is recommended?? > > > > > > > > Something like (for example):B Fill it part way, start the car, let the > water > > start circulating, add more water, etc., etc, or something like that?B B > Or > > do I just fill the radiator and start the car????B B (Anti-freeze will, > of > > course, be part of the "water" adding process). > > > > > > > > Any thoughts/suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated). > > > > tks, ray > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Jun 11 21:18:50 2011 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 03:18:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?is_there_a_circlip?= Message-ID: <20110612031850.29009.qmail@server278.com> patrick, i just looked at the moss catalog page on steering wheels and if your steering in non-adjustable(cannot remember which one you said it was) there is no circlip. on my bn6 non-adjustable steering column, there is no circlip, just the big nut and serrated washer. hjim From gregwilkinson at roadrunner.com Sat Jun 11 21:34:20 2011 From: gregwilkinson at roadrunner.com (Greg Wilkinson) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:34:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: <296377547.1472167.1307748123910.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <296377547.1472167.1307748123910.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4DF433BC.7070603@roadrunner.com> On 06/10/2011 04:22 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Power required increases proportional to the square of the speed increase; e.g. it takes four times the power and, roughly, the fuel to go twice as fast. I believe Kelly Johnston's SR-71 was the exception to that rule. I was watching an interview with two of the SR-71 pilots on the History Channel (IIRC). They said that when their fuel was getting low, they'd throttle up. I think that thing was only happy when it was screaming. From glemon at neb.rr.com Sat Jun 11 22:07:37 2011 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:07:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] refill a radiator? In-Reply-To: References: <1551565775.1789349.1307827755122.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <583144F594B34B649B0D431F83A52610@GregPC> make sure the heater valve is open (water circulating through the heater) when you do what Ira said. Greg Lemon From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Sat Jun 11 23:50:02 2011 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:50:02 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t Message-ID: A few months ago I bought a brand new oil pump for a fresh race motor for the 2011 season. It turned out to be a "County" oil pump. The bag contained a flyer that said something like "do not open this oil pump - the gears have been carefully matched - do not disturb". Last week as I was assembling a fresh race motor for my 2011 racing season, I opened the oil pump to pack it with petroleum jelly (so it would prime faster on initial start-up) and I discovered two things. First, the casting was so bad that there was a big glob of aluminum sitting in the bottom of the cavity just before the gears ,where oil should be flowing freely. Then I removed the gears and saw that the inside of the housing. On one side, the housing was so bad that it was worse than an oil pump housing that had gone through a catastrophic engine failure. There were huge voids in the housing wall that should have been smooth as glass. This was worse than an old worn out - severely damaged - oil pump!!! And sold as brand new. Some moron (in China or India?) had assembled this piece of crap, perhaps knowing, or not, that it was hugely defective, put it into a plastic zip lock bag and then added that warning flyer to not open up this pump. Most engine builders do not open up oil pumps when they do a rebuild. Sadly, in today's world this is what we get - "County" - for our Healeys. BTW, I sell ACL engine bearings for 6 cylinder Healeys. but then, so does County. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 23:55:31 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:55:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: <4DF433BC.7070603@roadrunner.com> References: <296377547.1472167.1307748123910.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4DF433BC.7070603@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: It was also porous on the ground. The skin tightened at elevation and speed I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Greg Wilkinson wrote: > On 06/10/2011 04:22 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: >> Power required increases proportional to the square of the speed increase; e.g. it takes four times the power and, roughly, the fuel to go twice as fast. > I believe Kelly Johnston's SR-71 was the exception to that rule. I was watching an interview with two of the SR-71 pilots on the History Channel (IIRC). They said that when their fuel was getting low, they'd throttle up. I think that thing was only happy when it was screaming. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 03:32:42 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:32:42 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: County, I believe, is based out of Israel, so their crappier stuff is probably made in Bulgaria or India. I don't think they make anything in China. It may even come from Israel proper. On 6/12/11, richard mayor wrote: > A few months ago I bought a brand new oil pump for a fresh race motor for > the > 2011 season. It turned out to be a "County" oil pump. The bag contained a > flyer that said something like "do not open this oil pump - the gears have > been carefully matched - do not disturb". > Last week as I was assembling a fresh race motor for my 2011 racing season, > I > opened the oil pump to pack it with petroleum jelly (so it would prime > faster > on initial start-up) and I discovered two things. First, the casting was so > bad that there was a big glob of aluminum sitting in the bottom of the > cavity > just before the gears ,where oil should be flowing freely. Then I removed > the > gears and saw that the inside of the housing. On one side, the housing was > so > bad that it was worse than an oil pump housing that had gone through a > catastrophic engine failure. There were huge voids in the housing wall that > should have been smooth as glass. This was worse than an old worn out - > severely damaged - oil pump!!! And sold as brand new. > Some moron (in China or India?) had assembled this piece of crap, perhaps > knowing, or not, that it was hugely defective, put it into a plastic zip > lock > bag and then added that warning flyer to not open up this pump. Most engine > builders do not open up oil pumps when they do a rebuild. Sadly, in today's > world this is what we get - "County" - for our Healeys. > BTW, I sell ACL engine bearings for 6 cylinder Healeys. but then, so does > County. > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Sun Jun 12 04:31:46 2011 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:31:46 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D933717-1EED-40D3-A07D-7B54E8C9FB14@bornet.net> I have had exactly the same experience. To market a product of such inferior quality should be, if it's not already, considered criminal. Magnus Karlsson 12 jun 2011 kl. 07:50 skrev richard mayor : > A few months ago I bought a brand new oil pump for a fresh race motor for the > 2011 season. It turned out to be a "County" oil pump. The bag contained a > flyer that said something like "do not open this oil pump - the gears have > been carefully matched - do not disturb". > Last week as I was assembling a fresh race motor for my 2011 racing season, I > opened the oil pump to pack it with petroleum jelly (so it would prime faster > on initial start-up) and I discovered two things. First, the casting was so > bad that there was a big glob of aluminum sitting in the bottom of the cavity > just before the gears ,where oil should be flowing freely. Then I removed the > gears and saw that the inside of the housing. On one side, the housing was so > bad that it was worse than an oil pump housing that had gone through a > catastrophic engine failure. There were huge voids in the housing wall that > should have been smooth as glass. This was worse than an old worn out - > severely damaged - oil pump!!! And sold as brand new. > Some moron (in China or India?) had assembled this piece of crap, perhaps > knowing, or not, that it was hugely defective, put it into a plastic zip lock > bag and then added that warning flyer to not open up this pump. Most engine > builders do not open up oil pumps when they do a rebuild. Sadly, in today's > world this is what we get - "County" - for our Healeys. > BTW, I sell ACL engine bearings for 6 cylinder Healeys. but then, so does > County. > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/magnuskarlsson at bornet.net From lists at brits-n-pieces.com Sun Jun 12 05:48:28 2011 From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (lists) Date: 12 Jun 2011 13:48:28 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?123_distributor_=28GB6=29_in_BJ8?= Message-ID: Peter, the coil should have at least 1 ohm resistance in the primary windings. If it hasn't, put a resistor in series with the coil adding to a total of at least 1 ohm. Or buy a new coil with at least 1 ohm resistance. If the coil has at least 1 ohm resistance in the primary windings (and it is a 12V coil), throw out the ballast resistor. I found curve 'B' with 13-15B0 BTDC @ tickover working extremely good in my car (BT7 with BJ8 engine specs). Kind regards Brits 'n' Pieces Eric Frenken fon +49(2452)9574662 fax +49(2452)9574668 http://brits-n-pieces.com 123ignition dealership Powerlite dealership G'day list A friend of mine is putting a 123 distributor in his Bj8. The circuit diagram that comes with it shows a ballast resistor with the coil. Is this essential for the 123 distributor? (The instructions don't mention this, just recommend using a new coil) Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 12 05:29:41 2011 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:29:41 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Smiths Instruments in Big Healey In-Reply-To: <658730.49243.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <193803.47954.qm@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <658730.49243.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I cannot find the reference but I have a vague recollection that one has Fahrenheit markings and the other Centigrade. Mind you I could be wrong!! Regards >Hello Michael; After checking with a number of current supplier catalogues >and confirming with the original Smiths Instruments catalogue of 1962, both >GD1500/29 and GD1500/30 are listed. The current suppliers give /29 and the >Smiths /30. The best I can say is you seem to have the correct safety gauge >[oil pressure/water temperature]. The pdf files need to be updated to >indicate this; I just need to find a good original information source. What I >don't want to do is perpetuate any errors; that is why I try to use original >documentation from 'the day'. :-) >--Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, >Murphy Lives > >--- On Fri, 6/10/11, Michael MacLean wrote:<< >Scott, After inspecting the instruments I have had rebuilt for my BN2 >restoration I find the combo gauge (oil & water) numbered GD1500-29 and the >one listed in the PDF as GD1500-30 for the BN2. What gauge do I have? Will >it still work correctly? Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 >> -- John Harper From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jun 12 08:07:06 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Camshaft Question -- Now MPG In-Reply-To: <4DF433BC.7070603@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <1525585946.1508976.1307887626220.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I saw that show too (I never miss anything on the Blackbird--my favorite aircraft). At very high speeds the engines were essentially ramjets (now THAT'S overdrive). Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA On 06/10/2011 04:22 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Power required increases proportional to the square of the speed increase; e.g. it takes four times the power and, roughly, the fuel to go twice as fast. I believe Kelly Johnston's SR-71 was the exception to that rule. I was watching an interview with two of the SR-71 pilots on the History Channel (IIRC). They said that when their fuel was getting low, they'd throttle up. I think that thing was only happy when it was screaming. From warthodson at aol.com Sun Jun 12 09:12:36 2011 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:12:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CDF72A4BB3854F-1508-14EE3@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> Unfortunately, to assume any reproduction part is going to fit &/or function without "bench testing" is to invite disaster. The rejection rate is about 50%. Gary Hodson From ahpowered at hotmail.com Sun Jun 12 11:14:27 2011 From: ahpowered at hotmail.com (scott willis) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:14:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Frustrating Electrical Mystery Message-ID: Hi gang, I was having a problem where my radio and my fuel gauge would go off when I applied the brakes. I installed a new brake switch and I still have the problem. I unhooked the radio. My wiper motor is not working and when I pulled that switch it did the same thing. I unhooked the wiper motor. It still does it when I hit the brake. Do I need to ground the wire going to the wiper motor or can I just leave the wires hanging to continue testing grounds? All lights, etc work. I get no brake lights when I hit the brake. I just get the fuel gauge going off when I apply the brake. It comes right back on when I release. Ugh.... Thx Scott Willis Mashed 60 BN7 AH Club USA 59 MGA 66 E-Type FHC http://bgeuroclassics.webs.com/ BG Euro Classics Car Club President Bowling Green, KY From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 11:21:10 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:21:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t In-Reply-To: <8CDF72A4BB3854F-1508-14EE3@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CDF72A4BB3854F-1508-14EE3@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Gary, are you saying you reject 50% of all reproduction parts, or???? Wow! Please clarify On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:12 AM, wrote: > Unfortunately, to assume any reproduction part is going to fit &/or > function > without "bench testing" is to invite disaster. The rejection rate is about > 50%. > Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From ahpowered at hotmail.com Sun Jun 12 12:46:38 2011 From: ahpowered at hotmail.com (scott willis) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:46:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Frustrating Electrical Mystery - solved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Never mind. I replaced fuses. Emory clothed all connections and now I have brake lights! Yip! See you on the road. Scott Willis Mashed 60 BN7 AH Club USA 59 MGA 66 E-Type FHC http://bgeuroclassics.webs.com/ BG Euro Classics Car Club President Bowling Green, KY ---------------------------------------- > From: ahpowered at hotmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Frustrating Electrical Mystery > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:14:27 -0500 > > > Hi gang, > I was having a problem where my radio and my fuel gauge would go off when I applied the brakes. I installed a new brake switch and I still have the problem. I unhooked the radio. My wiper motor is not working and when I pulled that switch it did the same thing. I unhooked the wiper motor. It still does it when I hit the brake. > > Do I need to ground the wire going to the wiper motor or can I just leave the wires hanging to continue testing grounds? All lights, etc work. I get no brake lights when I hit the brake. I just get the fuel gauge going off when I apply the brake. It comes right back on when I release. > > Ugh.... > > Thx > > Scott Willis > Mashed 60 BN7 AH Club USA > 59 MGA > 66 E-Type FHC > > http://bgeuroclassics.webs.com/ > BG Euro Classics Car Club President > Bowling Green, KY From warthodson at aol.com Sun Jun 12 12:45:49 2011 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:45:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t In-Reply-To: References: <8CDF72A4BB3854F-1508-14EE3@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CDF748153EDDED-22F4-185F2@webmail-d177.sysops.aol.com> Yes, that is what I am saying. In the last few years & continuing at this time, many (6-8) of our local club members have had or are having their Healeys restored from the ground up. This has exposed me to many reproduction parts & the experience is quite frustrating. I do not restore these cars but I do provide guidance. Here are a few examples that come to mind. Repro. body panels that often take more labor to correct than fixing the original panel, or the customer accepts inferior fit. Chrome trim parts that do not fit. Rubber parts that do not fit. Inferior interior kits. Incorrectly machined wheel hubs & knock offs. Numerous electric components that do not work straight out of the box. Exhaust systems that require considerable modification the get them to fit. 50% failure rate was not based on science but it feels about right to me. Our moto is "pound to fit, paint to match". I had the same experience with a repro. oil pump that Richard Mayor had. I was glad we took it apart rather than assuming it was good because it was new. I will admit that some people are not willing to pay the premium for quality parts, but that does not seem to guarantee that you will get quality either. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: I Erbs eyera3 at gmail.com To: warthodson at aol.comnt Cc: mayorrichard at hotmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Jun 12, 2011 12:21 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t Gary, are you saying you reject 50% of all reproduction parts, or???? Wow! Please clarify On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:12 AM, wrote: Unfortunately, to assume any reproduction part is going to fit &/or function without "bench testing" is to invite disaster. The rejection rate is about 50%. Gary Hodson _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Sun Jun 12 13:34:34 2011 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:34:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] AHSTC Encounter- kids events! Message-ID: Going to Encounter this year? Bring the kids and grand kids. We have something planned each day for the kids to do. Kids events: Kids social- with cookies and milk (maybe ice cream). Kids tech session- building cars out of food products! Kids rally- intergenerational scavenger hunt. Kidde khana- hot wheel races. Plus kids get their own regist packet with AH coloring books/ crayons and "voting by color" popular car show voting ballots. Car show participants have taken upon themselves to bride the kids to earn votes for there car. So you will see grown men/ women giving out candy, prizes, etc. just to get the kids votes. This type of behavior is encouraged by us and has taken a life of its own. Seeing who can "up the annie" and get the votes this year. If we keep this up, the kids votes (if they don't already) will out shine the popular car show awards given out. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." From redingtonranch at vtc.net Sun Jun 12 15:36:16 2011 From: redingtonranch at vtc.net (Don Steinman) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:36:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 5, Issue 385 References: Message-ID: <64FC5D9FEFFE4291B282574E852C79EE@Don> Electrical problems can be the most elusive problem in any vehicle. Often a bad ground on any item can cause weird happenings. A turn signal can cause all lights to flash or headlights to go out. When an circuit is searching for a ground it can be through any filament or coil in the vehicle. The best solution is to make sure that the frame, body, engine, etc is properly bonded to the ground terminal on the battery. Cleaning ALL ground connections is not always enough. Corrosion can invade any connection. An easy diagnosis is to run a ground wire to any suspect light or gauge and see if this solves the problem. My experience with restorations and repairs also has discovered another problem that is difficult to solve. A given wire can show twelve volts but the circuit does not perform. A single strand in the wire can carry 12 Vts but no amperage. If your test for voltage shows 12 vts bur will not work try a load test on the wire. You may be surprised that corrosion or a break in some of the strands of wire may not be allowing the circuit to work. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:20 AM Subject: Healeys Digest, Vol 5, Issue 385 > Send Healeys mailing list submissions to > healeys at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > healeys-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Frustrating Electrical Mystery (scott willis) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:14:27 -0500 > From: scott willis > To: > Subject: [Healeys] Frustrating Electrical Mystery > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi gang, > I was having a problem where my radio and my fuel gauge would go off when > I > applied the brakes. I installed a new brake switch and I still have the > problem. I unhooked the radio. My wiper motor is not working and when I > pulled > that switch it did the same thing. I unhooked the wiper motor. It still > does > it when I hit the brake. > > Do I need to ground the wire going to the wiper motor or can I just leave > the > wires hanging to continue testing grounds? All lights, etc work. I get no > brake lights when I hit the brake. I just get the fuel gauge going off > when I > apply the brake. It comes right back on when I release. > > Ugh.... > > Thx > > Scott Willis > Mashed 60 BN7 AH Club USA > 59 MGA > 66 E-Type FHC > > http://bgeuroclassics.webs.com/ > BG Euro Classics Car Club President > Bowling Green, KY > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Healeys mailing list > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > End of Healeys Digest, Vol 5, Issue 385 > *************************************** From ah53 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 12 17:03:47 2011 From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] AHSTC Encounter- kids events! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <809225.50178.qm@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Shawn My daughter Megan, husband Mike and the grandkids are looking forward to the annual trip to Encounter. Also a suggestion for you and and my son-in-law's financial well being: Don't let your wife, my daughter and Chris V. either drink or sit together at the charity auction. Just a thought from an older member. Joe '53 BN1 # 923 Coronet Cream '56 BN2 100M '67 The Blue Baby as per wife and kid --- On Sun, 6/12/11, S and T Miller wrote: From: S and T Miller Subject: [Healeys] AHSTC Encounter- kids events! To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, June 12, 2011, 3:34 PM Going to Encounter this year? Bring the kids and grand kids. We have something planned each day for the kids to do. Kids events: Kids social- with cookies and milk (maybe ice cream). Kids tech session- building cars out of food products! Kids rally- intergenerational scavenger hunt. Kidde khana- hot wheel races. Plus kids get their own regist packet with AH coloring books/ crayons and "voting by color" popular car show voting ballots. Car show participants have taken upon themselves to bride the kids to earn votes for there car. So you will see grown men/ women giving out candy, prizes, etc. just to get the kids votes. This type of behavior is encouraged by us and has taken a life of its own. Seeing who can "up the annie" and get the votes this year. If we keep this up, the kids votes (if they don't already) will out shine the popular car show awards given out. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com From lnjn36 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 12 17:10:46 2011 From: lnjn36 at sbcglobal.net (Lynn And Jean Neff) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:10:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Shaken... Message-ID: Been driving my BT 7 for over fifteen years. Now all of a sudden when I drive approx. 55 - 65 it shakes a lot. Is this the dreaded "scuttle shake?" if so, why now? Suggestions? Thoughts? Lynn Neff Springfield, IL Sent from my iPhone From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Sun Jun 12 19:28:04 2011 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:28:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] AHSTC Encounter- kids events! In-Reply-To: <809225.50178.qm@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: , <809225.50178.qm@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No kidding, it happened so fast. The girls were out of control. I was thinking I should fill up the Bugeye with plastic balls and make a "ball pit Bugeye". Do you think I would win Favorite Red car from the kids?? The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:03:47 -0700 From: ah53 at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] AHSTC Encounter- kids events! To: healeys at autox.team.net; stmiller96 at hotmail.com Shawn My daughter Megan, husband Mike and the grandkids are looking forward to the annual trip to Encounter. Also a suggestion for you and and my son-in-law's financial well being: Don't let your wife, my daughter and Chris V. either drink or sit together at the charity auction. Just a thought from an older member. Joe '53 BN1 # 923 Coronet Cream '56 BN2 100M '67 The Blue Baby as per wife and kid --- On Sun, 6/12/11, S and T Miller wrote: From: S and T Miller Subject: [Healeys] AHSTC Encounter- kids events! To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, June 12, 2011, 3:34 PM Going to Encounter this year? Bring the kids and grand kids. We have something planned each day for the kids to do. Kids events: Kids social- with cookies and milk (maybe ice cream). Kids tech session- building cars out of food products! Kids rally- intergenerational scavenger hunt. Kidde khana- hot wheel races. Plus kids get their own regist packet with AH coloring books/ crayons and "voting by color" popular car show voting ballots. Car show participants have taken upon themselves to bride the kids to earn votes for there car. So you will see grown men/ women giving out candy, prizes, etc. just to get the kids votes. This type of behavior is encouraged by us and has taken a life of its own. Seeing who can "up the annie" and get the votes this year. If we keep this up, the kids votes (if they don't already) will out shine the popular car show awards given out. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 19:59:55 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:59:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Shaken... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wire wheel spokes broken loose, out of balance, un noticed road repair, flat spot on tire from sitting Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 12, 2011 6:06 PM, "Lynn And Jean Neff" wrote: > Been driving my BT 7 for over fifteen years. Now all of a sudden when I drive > approx. 55 - 65 it shakes a lot. Is this the dreaded "scuttle shake?" if so, > why now? Suggestions? Thoughts? Lynn Neff > Springfield, IL > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 12 20:16:57 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (mark lapierre) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <444096.30380.qm@web180112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thanks for these updates. I will be checking my new MGA oil pump tomorrow. Mark --- On Sun, 6/12/11, richard mayor wrote: From: richard mayor Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t To: "healeys" Date: Sunday, June 12, 2011, 1:50 AM A few months ago I bought a brand new oil pump for a fresh race motor for the 2011 season. It turned out to be a "County" oil pump. The bag contained a flyer that said something like "do not open this oil pump - the gears have been carefully matched - do not disturb". Last week as I was assembling a fresh race motor for my 2011 racing season, I opened the oil pump to pack it with petroleum jelly (so it would prime faster on initial start-up) and I discovered two things. First, the casting was so bad that there was a big glob of aluminum sitting in the bottom of the cavity just before the gears ,where oil should be flowing freely. Then I removed the gears and saw that the inside of the housing. On one side, the housing was so bad that it was worse than an oil pump housing that had gone through a catastrophic engine failure. There were huge voids in the housing wall that should have been smooth as glass. This was worse than an old worn out - severely damaged - oil pump!!! And sold as brand new. Some moron (in China or India?) had assembled this piece of crap, perhaps knowing, or not, that it was hugely defective, put it into a plastic zip lock bag and then added that warning flyer to not open up this pump. Most engine builders do not open up oil pumps when they do a rebuild. Sadly, in today's world this is what we get - "County" - for our Healeys. BTW, I sell ACL engine bearings for 6 cylinder Healeys. but then, so does County. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 20:20:03 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:20:03 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Shaken... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Lynn - In my opinion, this is almost always indicative of a loose shock or a worn out shock absorber. Have someone drive alongside of you and they will be able to visibly see which wheel is bouncing, more than likely one of your front tires is bouncing all over the place at that speed. It is bouncing because the shock, when it no longer works, is no longer able to dampen out the rotational harmonics inherent in your wire wheels. Once you see the bouncy wheel, then you know which shock to focus on. As a matter of safety you may want to make sure both front shocks are firmly bolted in place before going for your inspection drive. Cheers, Alan On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Lynn And Jean Neff wrote: > Been driving my BT 7 for over fifteen years. Now all of a sudden when I > drive > approx. 55 - 65 it shakes a lot. Is this the dreaded "scuttle shake?" if > so, > why now? Suggestions? Thoughts? Lynn Neff > Springfield, IL > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 20:27:49 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:27:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Shaken... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lynn, Most likely tires or wheels, check condition of tires and balance of wheels also check the spokes. How old are your tires? Curt On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Lynn And Jean Neff wrote: > Been driving my BT 7 for over fifteen years. Now all of a sudden when I > drive > approx. 55 - 65 it shakes a lot. Is this the dreaded "scuttle shake?" if > so, > why now? Suggestions? Thoughts? Lynn Neff > Springfield, IL > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Jun 12 20:29:32 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:29:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Shaken... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3B30E51C-5D56-4728-A441-0F8E39AE0E28@att.net> No, the dreaded wheels out of balance shake. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 12, 2011, at 16:10, Lynn And Jean Neff wrote: > Been driving my BT 7 for over fifteen years. Now all of a sudden when I drive > approx. 55 - 65 it shakes a lot. Is this the dreaded "scuttle shake?" if so, > why now? Suggestions? Thoughts? Lynn Neff > Springfield, IL > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 12 20:55:38 2011 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:55:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Shaken... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20110612195430.0207acf8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Does it feel like an uncontrollable as it the entire car is shaking? If so check the frame where the A-arms attach for cracks. At 06:10 PM 6/12/2011 -0500, you wrote: > Been driving my BT 7 for over fifteen years. Now all of a sudden > when I drive >approx. 55 - 65 it shakes a lot. Is this the dreaded "scuttle shake?" if so, >why now? Suggestions? Thoughts? Lynn Neff >Springfield, IL >Sent from my iPhone >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >signature database 6201 (20110612) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jun 12 21:23:45 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:23:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Shaken... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DF582C1.4020200@comcast.net> re: 'Is this the dreaded "scuttle shake?" ' Yep. The big question is why you haven't had it before. What's changed? This has been discussed ad nauseum here and on the forum. It's usually some combination of: 1) wheels/tires out-of-balance or true 2) rear drums out-of-balance 3) driveshaft out-of-balance 4) bad shocks 5) loose king pin bushings 6) design flaw in the 6-cyl chassis (resonance induced by #1-5 above) Bob On 6/12/2011 4:10 PM, Lynn And Jean Neff wrote: > Been driving my BT 7 for over fifteen years. Now all of a sudden when I drive > approx. 55 - 65 it shakes a lot. Is this the dreaded "scuttle shake?" if so, > why now? Suggestions? Thoughts? Lynn Neff > Springfield, IL > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sun Jun 12 21:36:57 2011 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 03:36:57 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?chicken_and_the_egg?= Message-ID: <20110613033657.11494.qmail@server278.com> found the problem with the starting system on the bj8. tried to start it yesterday after washing the engine and letting it dry in the sun. all i got was "click" of the solenoid. checked battery and it was low so charged it a while. nada. tried to jump start using moms sedan. again nada. finally tried connecting battery directly to starter. nichts. pulled starter and bench checked it. would barely turn over and some of that lucas "smoke" started to escape. question? would the weak battery cause the starter to go TU or would a bad starter drain down the batter(or both). this is the original starter so i got a good run on it and have already popped in a spare, which works fine. battery is about 5 years old so got good service from it, i guess. thought someone more knowlegable than me might know. hjim From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jun 12 22:13:44 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:13:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DF58E78.4060402@comcast.net> Has anybody vivisected a Denis Welch pump? bs On 6/11/2011 10:50 PM, richard mayor wrote: > A few months ago I bought a brand new oil pump for a fresh race motor for the > 2011 season. It turned out to be a "County" oil pump. The bag contained a > flyer that said something like "do not open this oil pump - the gears have > been carefully matched - do not disturb". > Last week as I was assembling a fresh race motor for my 2011 racing season, I > opened the oil pump to pack it with petroleum jelly (so it would prime faster > on initial start-up) and I discovered two things. First, the casting was so > bad that there was a big glob of aluminum sitting in the bottom of the cavity > just before the gears ,where oil should be flowing freely. Then I removed the > gears and saw that the inside of the housing. On one side, the housing was so > bad that it was worse than an oil pump housing that had gone through a > catastrophic engine failure. There were huge voids in the housing wall that > should have been smooth as glass. This was worse than an old worn out - > severely damaged - oil pump!!! And sold as brand new. > Some moron (in China or India?) had assembled this piece of crap, perhaps > knowing, or not, that it was hugely defective, put it into a plastic zip lock > bag and then added that warning flyer to not open up this pump. Most engine > builders do not open up oil pumps when they do a rebuild. Sadly, in today's > world this is what we get - "County" - for our Healeys. > BTW, I sell ACL engine bearings for 6 cylinder Healeys. but then, so does > County. > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon > _______________________________________________ > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From fandy at mediacombb.net Sun Jun 12 22:32:09 2011 From: fandy at mediacombb.net (Fred Anderson) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:32:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Shaken... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35E5919A27B44C5887AA2F9B26313D37@rickPC> Make sure your wheels are on tight. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynn And Jean Neff" Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 6:10 PM To: Subject: [Healeys] Shaken... > Been driving my BT 7 for over fifteen years. Now all of a sudden when I > drive > approx. 55 - 65 it shakes a lot. Is this the dreaded "scuttle shake?" if > so, > why now? Suggestions? Thoughts? Lynn Neff > Springfield, IL > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fandy at mediacombb.net From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Sun Jun 12 22:47:38 2011 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 06:47:38 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Swedish annual Healey meet Message-ID: <9AECA6EF-7E43-4AF1-AF35-4927E474390F@bornet.net> For those of you that might be interested I have just put up images of the Swedish clubs annual meet on my website: http://www.concourshealeys.com/austin-healey-club-of-sweden-yearly-meet-2011/ Magnus Karlsson www.concourshealeys.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 00:19:59 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:19:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] chicken and the egg In-Reply-To: <20110613033657.11494.qmail@server278.com> References: <20110613033657.11494.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <16877068-29D4-4BB0-80D4-CBE7E27EEF63@gmail.com> Bad starter would put a load on old battery. So yes it could have drsined the battery. Oem starter! Wow how did that get away from the Lucas factory. Must be a record! I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jun 12, 2011, at 8:36 PM, wrote: > found the problem with the starting system on the bj8. tried to start it yesterday after washing the engine and letting it dry in the sun. all i got was "click" of the solenoid. checked battery and it was low so charged it a while. nada. tried to jump start using moms sedan. again nada. finally tried connecting battery directly to starter. nichts. pulled starter and bench checked it. would barely turn over and some of that lucas "smoke" started to escape. question? would the weak battery cause the starter to go TU or would a bad starter drain down the batter(or both). this is the original starter so i got a good run on it and have already popped in a spare, which works fine. battery is about 5 years old so got good service from it, i guess. thought someone more knowlegable than me might know. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From mark at bradakis.com Mon Jun 13 00:45:31 2011 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 00:45:31 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Nice! Message-ID: <4DF5B20B.5030205@bradakis.com> I've spent a lot more time at the computer this weekend dealing with Team.Net stuff than I had planned on. There are some definite issues with various aspects of keeping it all running. Just took a bit of a break and went through some of the paper mail piled up here on my desk. One item was from the Austin Healey Club of San Diego - a generous check in support of Team.Net. Sweet. Maybe I won't simply pull the plug just yet ;-) mjb. From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Mon Jun 13 00:59:47 2011 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:59:47 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t In-Reply-To: <4DF58E78.4060402@comcast.net> References: <4DF58E78.4060402@comcast.net> Message-ID: I have and it's of an excellent quality. Magnus Karlsson www.concourshealeys.com Skickat frC%n min iPad 13 jun 2011 kl. 06:13 skrev Bob Spidell : > Has anybody vivisected a Denis Welch pump? > > bs > > > On 6/11/2011 10:50 PM, richard mayor wrote: >> A few months ago I bought a brand new oil pump for a fresh race motor for the >> 2011 season. It turned out to be a "County" oil pump. The bag contained a >> flyer that said something like "do not open this oil pump - the gears have >> been carefully matched - do not disturb". >> Last week as I was assembling a fresh race motor for my 2011 racing season, I >> opened the oil pump to pack it with petroleum jelly (so it would prime faster >> on initial start-up) and I discovered two things. First, the casting was so >> bad that there was a big glob of aluminum sitting in the bottom of the cavity >> just before the gears ,where oil should be flowing freely. Then I removed the >> gears and saw that the inside of the housing. On one side, the housing was so >> bad that it was worse than an oil pump housing that had gone through a >> catastrophic engine failure. There were huge voids in the housing wall that >> should have been smooth as glass. This was worse than an old worn out - >> severely damaged - oil pump!!! And sold as brand new. >> Some moron (in China or India?) had assembled this piece of crap, perhaps >> knowing, or not, that it was hugely defective, put it into a plastic zip lock >> bag and then added that warning flyer to not open up this pump. Most engine >> builders do not open up oil pumps when they do a rebuild. Sadly, in today's >> world this is what we get - "County" - for our Healeys. >> BTW, I sell ACL engine bearings for 6 cylinder Healeys. but then, so does >> County. >> >> Richard Mayor >> BN7L-466 Vintage Racer >> Portland, Oregon >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/magnuskarlsson at bornet.net From austin.healey at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 01:37:40 2011 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:37:40 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t In-Reply-To: <4DF58E78.4060402@comcast.net> References: <4DF58E78.4060402@comcast.net> Message-ID: <90C0C505-45DE-4CDF-9EB9-2F1FC61037BA@gmail.com> Yes, 12 years ago, Peter Molloy took my pump apart, expecting to have to flow it. He checked the tolerances, casting, maching etc etc, and pronounced it one of the best pumps he'd seen for a production engine. I've heard one recent report to the contrary. As I said, my DW oil pump experience is 12 years ago. Still running like a beauty. Best Chris Sent from my iPhone On 13/06/2011, at 2:13 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Has anybody vivisected a Denis Welch pump? > > bs > > > On 6/11/2011 10:50 PM, richard mayor wrote: >> A few months ago I bought a brand new oil pump for a fresh race >> motor for the >> 2011 season. It turned out to be a "County" oil pump. The bag >> contained a >> flyer that said something like "do not open this oil pump - the >> gears have >> been carefully matched - do not disturb". >> Last week as I was assembling a fresh race motor for my 2011 racing >> season, I >> opened the oil pump to pack it with petroleum jelly (so it would >> prime faster >> on initial start-up) and I discovered two things. First, the >> casting was so >> bad that there was a big glob of aluminum sitting in the bottom of >> the cavity >> just before the gears ,where oil should be flowing freely. Then I >> removed the >> gears and saw that the inside of the housing. On one side, the >> housing was so >> bad that it was worse than an oil pump housing that had gone >> through a >> catastrophic engine failure. There were huge voids in the housing >> wall that >> should have been smooth as glass. This was worse than an old worn >> out - >> severely damaged - oil pump!!! And sold as brand new. >> Some moron (in China or India?) had assembled this piece of crap, >> perhaps >> knowing, or not, that it was hugely defective, put it into a >> plastic zip lock >> bag and then added that warning flyer to not open up this pump. >> Most engine >> builders do not open up oil pumps when they do a rebuild. Sadly, in >> today's >> world this is what we get - "County" - for our Healeys. >> BTW, I sell ACL engine bearings for 6 cylinder Healeys. but then, >> so does >> County. >> >> Richard Mayor >> BN7L-466 Vintage Racer >> Portland, Oregon >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jun 13 02:08:25 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:08:25 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Shaken... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DF5C579.9050107@chello.nl> Check for a broken spoke or lost balance weight. It can also be caused by a damaged tire or deteriorated tire. How old are they? When older than 8 years you may have sudden delamination. For the rest just check all the usual suspension items although these will be less likely causes as the shaking started all af a sudden. Kees Oudesluijs [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 03:11:46 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:11:46 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t In-Reply-To: References: <4DF58E78.4060402@comcast.net> Message-ID: Considering they race test all of their products, I would expect no less.... Cheers, Alan On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Magnus Karlsson wrote: > I have and it's of an excellent quality. > > Magnus Karlsson > www.concourshealeys.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 08:13:59 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 07:13:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t In-Reply-To: <8CDF748153EDDED-22F4-185F2@webmail-d177.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CDF72A4BB3854F-1508-14EE3@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com> <8CDF748153EDDED-22F4-185F2@webmail-d177.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Could you list suppliers To be concerned about? I must be lucky. Except for my boot lock/handle and one lower fender repair panel, I have had good luck. I have avoided repro door handles. I think the above issues had more to do with body panel variation. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 12, 2011 11:46 AM, wrote: > > Yes, that is what I am saying. In the last few years & continuing at this time, many (6-8) of our local club members have had or are having their Healeys restored from the ground up. This has exposed me to many reproduction parts & the experience is quite frustrating. I do not restore these cars but I do provide guidance. Here are a few examples that come to mind. Repro. body panels that often take more labor to correct than fixing the original panel, or the customer accepts inferior fit. Chrome trim parts that do not fit. Rubber parts that do not fit. Inferior interior kits. Incorrectly machined wheel hubs & knock offs. Numerous electric components that do not work straight out of the box. Exhaust systems that require considerable modification the get them to fit. 50% failure rate was not based on science but it feels about right to me. Our moto is "pound to fit, paint to match". I had the same experience with a repro. oil pump that Richard Mayor had. I was glad we took it apart rather than assuming it was good because it was new. I will admit that some people are not willing to pay the premium for quality parts, but that does not seem to guarantee that you will get quality either. > Gary Hodson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: I Erbs eyera3 at gmail.com > To: warthodson at aol.comnt > Cc: mayorrichard at hotmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, Jun 12, 2011 12:21 pm > Subject: Re: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t > > > Gary, > are you saying you reject 50% of all reproduction parts, or???? Wow! Please clarify > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:12 AM, wrote: > > Unfortunately, to assume any reproduction part is going to fit &/or function > without "bench testing" is to invite disaster. The rejection rate is about > 50%. > Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > > > > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > > -Albert Einstein From derek.c.job at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 09:51:10 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:51:10 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Exact position of 'Staple' for spare wheel retaining strap Message-ID: All Following restoration, my car no longer has the two holes for the screws which secure the 'staple' through which the spare wheel leather strap passes. Can anyone give me an accurate measurement of exactly where these holes are positioned in the boot.? Is this staple normally attached with small bolts or with self tapping screws? Also, the bracket to which the spare wheel retaining rod connects, has two holes in it but all the spare parts manuals show only the one long bolt passing through it. What is the other hole for? Is there an additional screw required to give it more support when attached to the wooden block? Thanks Derek From Healey100M at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 11:26:01 2011 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:26:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] '53 100 Modified Message-ID: <7A64BD43-4BE7-4AF1-BD66-8B8F1EA792E8@gmail.com> Ebay Item # 280694677259 Nicely done for a very modified Healey! Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M OEW/Black '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (For Sale) '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Mon Jun 13 11:58:40 2011 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Exact position of 'Staple' for spare wheel retaining strap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <860437.2049.qm@web120507.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> What car ?? Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: Derek Job To: Forum Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 10:51:10 AM Subject: [Healeys] Exact position of 'Staple' for spare wheel retaining strap All Following restoration, my car no longer has the two holes for the screws which secure the 'staple' through which the spare wheel leather strap passes. Can anyone give me an accurate measurement of exactly where these holes are positioned in the boot.? Is this staple normally attached with small bolts or with self tapping screws? Also, the bracket to which the spare wheel retaining rod connects, has two holes in it but all the spare parts manuals show only the one long bolt passing through it. What is the other hole for? Is there an additional screw required to give it more support when attached to the wooden block? Thanks Derek _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 12:11:05 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:11:05 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Exact position of 'Staple' for spare wheel retaining strap In-Reply-To: <860437.2049.qm@web120507.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <860437.2049.qm@web120507.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sorry - Its a 100-Six BN4 Derek On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Josi Vicente Vargas wrote: > What car ?? > > Josi Vicente Vargas > Musmi > > Tel. (571) 321 3740 > Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 > Skype: jovivago > > > www.musme.net > > > Bogota, Colombia > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Derek Job > *To:* Forum > *Sent:* Mon, June 13, 2011 10:51:10 AM > *Subject:* [Healeys] Exact position of 'Staple' for spare wheel retaining > strap > > All > > Following restoration, my car no longer has the two holes for the screws > which secure the 'staple' through which the spare wheel leather strap > passes. > > Can anyone give me an accurate measurement of exactly where these holes are > positioned in the boot.? Is this staple normally attached with small bolts > or with self tapping screws? > > Also, the bracket to which the spare wheel retaining rod connects, has two > holes in it but all the spare parts manuals show only the one long bolt > passing through it. What is the other hole for? Is there an additional > screw > required to give it more support when attached to the wooden block? > > Thanks > > Derek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From ahpowered at hotmail.com Mon Jun 13 13:39:20 2011 From: ahpowered at hotmail.com (scott willis) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:39:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 5, Issue 385 In-Reply-To: <64FC5D9FEFFE4291B282574E852C79EE@Don> References: , <64FC5D9FEFFE4291B282574E852C79EE@Don> Message-ID: Thanks all. I took all connections apart and Emory clothed them. Then I replaced some very old original looking fuses. Then I realized the ground strap to the battery was loose on the terminal. After all that voila! i had brake lights. Yip! I have no idea really what cured it. I also have a stronger turn signal light. This wiring is all original so I suppose the connections just got weak. See ya on the road. Scott Willis Mashed 60 BN7 AH Club USA 59 MGA 66 E-Type FHC http://bgeuroclassics.webs.com/ BG Euro Classics Car Club President Bowling Green, KY ---------------------------------------- > From: redingtonranch at vtc.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:36:16 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 5, Issue 385 > > Electrical problems can be the most elusive problem in any vehicle. Often a > bad ground on any item can cause weird happenings. A turn signal can cause > all lights to flash or headlights to go out. When an circuit is searching > for a ground it can be through any filament or coil in the vehicle. The > best solution is to make sure that the frame, body, engine, etc is properly > bonded to the ground terminal on the battery. Cleaning ALL ground > connections is not always enough. Corrosion can invade any connection. An > easy diagnosis is to run a ground wire to any suspect light or gauge and > see if this solves the problem. My experience with restorations and repairs > also has discovered another problem that is difficult to solve. A given > wire can show twelve volts but the circuit does not perform. A single > strand in the wire can carry 12 Vts but no amperage. If your test for > voltage shows 12 vts bur will not work try a load test on the wire. You may > be surprised that corrosion or a break in some of the strands of wire may > not be allowing the circuit to work. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:20 AM > Subject: Healeys Digest, Vol 5, Issue 385 > > > > Send Healeys mailing list submissions to > > healeys at autox.team.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > healeys-owner at autox.team.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Frustrating Electrical Mystery (scott willis) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:14:27 -0500 > > From: scott willis > > To: > > Subject: [Healeys] Frustrating Electrical Mystery > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hi gang, > > I was having a problem where my radio and my fuel gauge would go off when > > I > > applied the brakes. I installed a new brake switch and I still have the > > problem. I unhooked the radio. My wiper motor is not working and when I > > pulled > > that switch it did the same thing. I unhooked the wiper motor. It still > > does > > it when I hit the brake. > > > > Do I need to ground the wire going to the wiper motor or can I just leave > > the > > wires hanging to continue testing grounds? All lights, etc work. I get no > > brake lights when I hit the brake. I just get the fuel gauge going off > > when I > > apply the brake. It comes right back on when I release. > > > > Ugh.... > > > > Thx > > > > Scott Willis From derek.c.job at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 13:56:56 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 21:56:56 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] '53 100 Modified In-Reply-To: <7A64BD43-4BE7-4AF1-BD66-8B8F1EA792E8@gmail.com> References: <7A64BD43-4BE7-4AF1-BD66-8B8F1EA792E8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yep, I really like that, seems like a lot of car for the money. I'd make a few changes. Change the steering wheel for an equal spaced 3 spoke Derrington, remove the luggage rack and change the wheels. I guess those salt flat wheels are correct for the period but I don't think they help the look of the car. I'd swap them for 16 inch Dunlop racing alloys as raced at Sebring in 55 and 56 on NOJ. Derek On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Randy Hicks wrote: > Ebay Item # 280694677259 > > Nicely done for a very modified Healey! > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100 M OEW/Black > '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW > '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (For Sale) > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From healeyguy at bredband.net Mon Jun 13 13:58:44 2011 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 21:58:44 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Exact position of 'Staple' for spare wheel retaining strap In-Reply-To: <860437.2049.qm@web120507.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <860437.2049.qm@web120507.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DF66BF4.7060206@bredband.net> BN4 Per in Sweden From bluehealey at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 14:22:45 2011 From: bluehealey at gmail.com (AlanB) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 21:22:45 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] iPhone App for Big Healey Message-ID: Team How do you get the correct camber setting when using sliding top mounts for the front shocks? I had that challenge this weekend on BlueHealey and solved it with this iPhone App. Crazy but true. Find it on the Team Net Forum with pics. Link is below. _____________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) (______ \____1957-BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) http://tinyurl.com/healeyforum From tadeusz.malkiewicz at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 14:28:34 2011 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at gmail.com (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:28:34 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 on a custom frame Message-ID: <7267C201AD4E4BC0A5B21DD1F7D9E85E@TM1> Not my cup of tea, not sure of the purpose, but impressive work to design/make a completely new frame for the Healey. http://tinyurl.com/5v8pejo Tadek From jstmorris at yahoo.com Mon Jun 13 14:50:11 2011 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Exact position of 'Staple' for spare wheel retaining strap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <109062.61161.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Derek; The email exchange below from my files may be of some help. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives Spare Tire Strap Chrome Staple To: , "Mick Vander Ploeg" Subject: Re: Spare Tire Strap Chrome Staple From: "Richard Bittmann" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:56:27 -0700 Mick, It is 5" from centerline of the car to center of first hole which is 3/4" in from the rear edge. The center of the second hole is approx. 5/8" in from the rear edge (so that a line between the 2 holes is parallel to the back of the boot). --Richard Bittmann BJ7 Tacoma To: Subject: Spare Tire Strap Chrome Staple From: "Mick Vander Ploeg" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:58:10 -0400 Can anyone tell me the location of the chrome staple that holds down the spare tire strap to the trunk floor? My trunk floor's been replaced, so there's no holes to give me a clue. A general location would help, but measurements from the centerline and the edge of the shroud attachment point would be invaluable. I did a search in the Archives for chrome staple, footman's loop, spare tire strap, etc., and could find nothing except others asking this same question. Thanks, --Mick Vander Ploeg '57 BN4 ***************************************************************************** ********************* Derek Job wrote: << Following restoration, my car no longer has the two holes for the screws which secure the 'staple' through which the spare wheel leather strap passes. Can anyone give me an accurate measurement of exactly where these holes are positioned in the boot.? Is this staple normally attached with small bolts or with self tapping screws? Also, the bracket to which the spare wheel retaining rod connects, has two holes in it but all the spare parts manuals show only the one long bolt passing through it. What is the other hole for? Is there an additional screw required to give it more support when attached to the wooden block? >> From healeyguy at bredband.net Mon Jun 13 14:53:21 2011 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:53:21 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] '53 100 Modified In-Reply-To: References: <7A64BD43-4BE7-4AF1-BD66-8B8F1EA792E8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DF678C1.20803@bredband.net> Hi It's really nice, apart from the fitting of the drivers door. Perhaps it was not fully closed when the picture was taken. BUT ??????? is it really a real Healey? I doubt it. The VIN doesn't look like a real BN1 number. Per From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jun 13 15:33:03 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:33:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] '53 100 Modified In-Reply-To: <4DF678C1.20803@bredband.net> References: <7A64BD43-4BE7-4AF1-BD66-8B8F1EA792E8@gmail.com> <4DF678C1.20803@bredband.net> Message-ID: <003001cc2a11$7a057390$6e105ab0$@net> Ironically, somebody has used the car's original engine number for the VIN number. It happens a lot and I have quite a few identified that way on the Hundred Registry records. I do have the original chassis number for this car as it's been on ebay before. If anybody comes across other numbers (body and batch) for this car, please let me know. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Per Schoerner Sent: 2011-06-13 4:53 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] '53 100 Modified Hi It's really nice, apart from the fitting of the drivers door. Perhaps it was not fully closed when the picture was taken. BUT ??????? is it really a real Healey? I doubt it. The VIN doesn't look like a real BN1 number. Per _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From Healey100M at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 16:13:56 2011 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:13:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] '53 100 Modified In-Reply-To: <003001cc2a11$7a057390$6e105ab0$@net> References: <7A64BD43-4BE7-4AF1-BD66-8B8F1EA792E8@gmail.com> <4DF678C1.20803@bredband.net> <003001cc2a11$7a057390$6e105ab0$@net> Message-ID: <3E0E42E7-2FB8-4D53-A6F5-DA705999D0B8@gmail.com> Interesting. I was wondering where the "1953 BN1" came from. Looks like BN2 front fenders with higher arch and a BN2 dash (key/OD switch position). Randy On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > Ironically, somebody has used the car's original engine number for the VIN > number. It happens a lot and I have quite a few identified that way on the > Hundred Registry records. I do have the original chassis number for this car > as it's been on ebay before. If anybody comes across other numbers (body and > batch) for this car, please let me know. > > Rich From healeyguy at bredband.net Mon Jun 13 16:34:13 2011 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:34:13 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] '53 100 Modified In-Reply-To: <4DF678C1.20803@bredband.net> References: <7A64BD43-4BE7-4AF1-BD66-8B8F1EA792E8@gmail.com> <4DF678C1.20803@bredband.net> Message-ID: <4DF69065.30204@bredband.net> Hi So.... where does this end? I suppose the original frame and other bits can be restored and reappear as the real AH 100 1953 with the original VIN. Suddenly this car has been cloned. Well, sort of anyway. Rich, you say it's been on Ebay before, was it as a BN1 or a 1B? Per From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 13 18:36:49 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (mark lapierre) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] County brand oil pump s**t In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <693526.79350.qm@web180108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> After looking into my County MGA oil pump it will be going back. I contacted the distributor and he said that they will check the replacement before they send it out to me. He asked me if the pump showed any lubrication inside. It did not. My pump was already showing wear on the flat top half of the pump,also a bad scuff mark in the cylinder that I could definetly catch a knife blade on and two of the lobes of the rotor had surface corrosion. Thanks to the suggestion to check these things out. The external visual appearance sure leaves a lot to be desired compared to the 4 original used pumps that I have,but the internal rotors looked ok ( except corrosion) and the rotor clearances were with in specs. Mark From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 20:09:12 2011 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:09:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] driving lights Message-ID: I have two front mounted driving lights of dubious quality. I keep putting in bigger bulbs until we reach 105 Watt. Those worked best but are melting everything and discoloring the lens. They are powered by a 150 amp GM alternator so power is not the problem: Question: I want two new period looking high powered driving lights for fast night time driving. Think Montana! Any ideas? XK has new repro Lucas lights but they suggest 45 watt bulbs. TIA ron rader Playa del Rey CA From cbaustin at verizon.net Mon Jun 13 20:21:31 2011 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:21:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Offering Up Message-ID: <4DF6C5AB.1070801@verizon.net> '54 race/street - PVGP ('90's) survivor - more information in a few days - please contact off-list if interested. Thanks, CB From JPayne at ThorCon.net Mon Jun 13 20:42:21 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:42:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] driving lights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62800@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Go to a local off road shop and get some Cibies or other offroading lamps for a jeep. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of F Ronald Rader Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:09 PM To: List Healey Subject: [Healeys] driving lights I have two front mounted driving lights of dubious quality. I keep putting in bigger bulbs until we reach 105 Watt. Those worked best but are melting everything and discoloring the lens. They are powered by a 150 amp GM alternator so power is not the problem: Question: I want two new period looking high powered driving lights for fast night time driving. Think Montana! Any ideas? XK has new repro Lucas lights but they suggest 45 watt bulbs. TIA ron rader Playa del Rey CA _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 20:45:59 2011 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:45:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] driving lights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Back in day when we wanted some serious light, we found some aircraft landing light bulbs at a local surplus store. Went to Pep-Boys and bought some cheap "fog lights" and threw away the bulbs and installed the aircraft landing light bulbs. Bright. Seriously bright. We are talking reflecting off road signs at 2+ miles bright. They were so bright we used to only use one, as 2 was overkill. I guess you would source them at a aircraft store, these were about 5" round with a clear lens. Rick On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:09 PM, F Ronald Rader wrote: > I have two front mounted driving lights of dubious quality. > I keep putting in bigger bulbs until we reach 105 Watt. > Those worked best but are melting everything and discoloring the lens. > They are powered by a 150 amp GM alternator so power is not the problem: > Question: > I want two new period looking high powered driving lights for fast > night time driving. > Think Montana! > > Any ideas? > XK has new repro Lucas lights but they suggest 45 watt bulbs. > TIA > ron rader > Playa del Rey CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jun 13 20:51:19 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:51:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Offering Up In-Reply-To: <4DF6C5AB.1070801@verizon.net> References: <4DF6C5AB.1070801@verizon.net> Message-ID: <002801cc2a3d$f064eee0$d12ecca0$@net> A what???? Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charley Braum Sent: 2011-06-13 10:22 To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Offering Up '54 race/street - PVGP ('90's) survivor - more information in a few days - please contact off-list if interested. Thanks, CB _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From cbaustin at verizon.net Mon Jun 13 20:59:48 2011 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:59:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Offering Up In-Reply-To: <002801cc2a3d$f064eee0$d12ecca0$@net> References: <4DF6C5AB.1070801@verizon.net> <002801cc2a3d$f064eee0$d12ecca0$@net> Message-ID: <4DF6CEA4.4040604@verizon.net> On 6/13/2011 10:51 PM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > A what???? > I figured being on the "Big Healey List' it might be obvious it is a '54 100, prepared for vintage racing but street-able. My mistake. CB From keithbailey5 at bigpond.com Mon Jun 13 23:21:28 2011 From: keithbailey5 at bigpond.com (Keith Bailey) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:21:28 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey History Message-ID: Hi Is there any one on the list who live in or around Jacksonville Florida ??? My BT7 originally came from there and I would like to try and obtain some back ground on this car I have some address so if anyone can help please contact me at keithbailey5 at bigpond.com Keith From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Mon Jun 13 23:49:00 2011 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:49:00 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Offering Up Message-ID: <4288.40976432.3b28504c@aol.com> Whoa!!! In a message dated 6/13/2011 8:23:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cbaustin at verizon.net writes: On 6/13/2011 10:51 PM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > A what???? > I figured being on the "Big Healey List' it might be obvious it is a '54 100, prepared for vintage racing but street-able. My mistake. CB _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/atightprod at aol.com From cgmoog at optonline.net Tue Jun 14 00:49:29 2011 From: cgmoog at optonline.net (Chris Moog) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 02:49:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] driving lights In-Reply-To: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62800@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62800@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <4DF70479.3040102@optonline.net> http://www.rallylights.com/hella/AuxiliaryLampsGrid.aspx On 6/13/2011 10:42 PM, Jonas Payne wrote: > Go to a local off road shop and get some Cibies or other offroading > lamps for a jeep. > > > I want two new period looking high powered driving lights for fast night > time driving. > Think Montana! > > Any ideas? > XK has new repro Lucas lights but they suggest 45 watt bulbs. > TIA > ron rader > Playa del Rey CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cgmoog at optonline.net From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jun 14 01:20:20 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:20:20 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] driving lights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DF70BB4.5020800@chello.nl> Sorry, disregard my earlier comment. Got confused between side lights and driving lights. Kees Oudesluijs [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jun 14 01:18:40 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:40 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] driving lights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DF70B50.9070608@chello.nl> To reduce heat build up use LED bulbs if you can. They emit much less heat than the usual tungsten bulbs as for the same amount of light they would use about 2-3W instead of 45W. Kees Oudesluijs [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jun 14 01:25:46 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:25:46 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] driving lights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DF70CFA.9040401@chello.nl> Properly designed driving/spot lights do not need more than 45W for the bulb. The cheepo units diffuse the light to much so they are not effective. Or perhaps they are not spot lights but fog lights? Stick to quality brands like Hella, Cibie, Lucas, Marchal etc. in EU. I do not know the US market. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Tue Jun 14 05:11:56 2011 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:11:56 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Hood Photos Message-ID: G'day Someone has sent me an article on erecting the hood on his 100. Funny thing to write about, but he has had his car for close to 15 years and during its restoration never fitted the hood or soft top. After being caught in the rain for one more time he finally fitted it to his car and sent me the words - but no pics. Would anyone have a photo of an erect soft top on a roadster Austin-Healey they can send me? ie BN1 through to BN7 Mk2. A series of photos of a soft top being erected would be even better. Many thanks Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 14 09:12:01 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:12:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] driving lights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98DE73C8-7DF3-4082-80E4-D40B0A664713@sbcglobal.net> Ron, we have a Zenon headlight that we use that includes a day time driving light. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 13, 2011, at 7:09 PM, F Ronald Rader wrote: > I have two front mounted driving lights of dubious quality. > I keep putting in bigger bulbs until we reach 105 Watt. > Those worked best but are melting everything and discoloring the lens. > They are powered by a 150 amp GM alternator so power is not the > problem: > Question: > I want two new period looking high powered driving lights for fast > night time driving. > Think Montana! > > Any ideas? > XK has new repro Lucas lights but they suggest 45 watt bulbs. > TIA > ron rader > Playa del Rey CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From HealeyHundred at comcast.net Tue Jun 14 09:39:28 2011 From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net (Richard Gordon) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:39:28 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Memphis Trip Message-ID: <0B759287-1FED-4C7A-9015-F29D5F9E2DE1@comcast.net> Juli and I will be attending a conference in Memphis the first week in September and could have Sunday September 4th open. Might there be any Healey or British car events going on that day? Let me know off list, Thanks, Richard Richard Gordon Rocky Mountain Austin-Healey Club 1830 South Newport Street Denver, Colorado 80224 Home 303-756-7427 Cell 303-913-1171 HealeyHundred at comcast.net From Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com Tue Jun 14 12:04:50 2011 From: Ken.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:04:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 in Atlantic Virginia Message-ID: <533B2E99494AFB4994A0675E031AF63305EE951A@SACMBX01.corp.aerojet.com> Spotted a nice late blue BJ8 in Atlantic, Virginia. I hollered in the garage door, but no answer. I am in the area for another 1 day so would like a chat. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Jun 14 15:13:26 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:13:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life Message-ID: <001d01cc2ad7$e6bf8c70$b43ea550$@net> Hello all, Today at just after noon EDT, BN1L 158893 burst into life again after being silent since 1965. This car broke a gear back in '65 which actually probably saved the car. It was removed from the road at that time, seems to have been completely stripped down to almost every last nut and bolt during the 1970's, but everything was carefully catalogued and stored. I first saw the car in 1988 when a close friend and I went to see a "BN1 Project for Sale". My friend bought it, moved 3 times, got married had a family, and approached me in 2000 asking if I could help him sell it as he'd never get around to doing the car. I bought it myself, and moved it all again. In 2006 a new club member had been looking for a Healey and wasn't having much luck with all the overpriced junk out there so I sold it to him as a project on the condition that we would build for him. The car is finally about finished except for the many bugs and trouble shooting that inevitably comes with the territory. She's all black with almost all of her original persimmon orange and red interior, red top, etc. She's a stunning piece of Healey. Rich From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jun 14 15:42:04 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life In-Reply-To: <001d01cc2ad7$e6bf8c70$b43ea550$@net> Message-ID: <1456937626.1618139.1308087724610.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I thought I felt a positive disturbance in The Force this morning. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Hello all, Today at just after noon EDT, BN1L 158893 burst into life again after being silent since 1965. This car broke a gear back in '65 which actually probably saved the car. It was removed from the road at that time, seems to have been completely stripped down to almost every last nut and bolt during the 1970's, but everything was carefully catalogued and stored. I first saw the car in 1988 when a close friend and I went to see a "BN1 Project for Sale". My friend bought it, moved 3 times, got married had a family, and approached me in 2000 asking if I could help him sell it as he'd never get around to doing the car. I bought it myself, and moved it all again. In 2006 a new club member had been looking for a Healey and wasn't having much luck with all the overpriced junk out there so I sold it to him as a project on the condition that we would build for him. The car is finally about finished except for the many bugs and trouble shooting that inevitably comes with the territory. She's all black with almost all of her original persimmon orange and red interior, red top, etc. She's a stunning piece of Healey. Rich _______________________________________________ From rwil at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 14 15:44:31 2011 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:44:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life In-Reply-To: <001d01cc2ad7$e6bf8c70$b43ea550$@net> References: <001d01cc2ad7$e6bf8c70$b43ea550$@net> Message-ID: Congratulations, Rich, and welcome and best wishes to BN1 158893. Any photos? -Roland BN1 On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:13:26 -0400, you wrote: ::Hello all, :: :: :: ::Today at just after noon EDT, BN1L 158893 burst into life again after being ::silent since 1965. This car broke a gear back in '65 which actually probably ::saved the car. It was removed from the road at that time, seems to have been ::completely stripped down to almost every last nut and bolt during the ::1970's, but everything was carefully catalogued and stored. I first saw the ::car in 1988 when a close friend and I went to see a "BN1 Project for Sale". ::My friend bought it, moved 3 times, got married had a family, and approached ::me in 2000 asking if I could help him sell it as he'd never get around to ::doing the car. I bought it myself, and moved it all again. In 2006 a new ::club member had been looking for a Healey and wasn't having much luck with ::all the overpriced junk out there so I sold it to him as a project on the ::condition that we would build for him. :: ::The car is finally about finished except for the many bugs and trouble ::shooting that inevitably comes with the territory. She's all black with ::almost all of her original persimmon orange and red interior, red top, etc. ::She's a stunning piece of Healey. :: :: :: ::Rich From cynicbass at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 15:47:58 2011 From: cynicbass at gmail.com (Richard Korn) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:47:58 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life In-Reply-To: <001d01cc2ad7$e6bf8c70$b43ea550$@net> References: <001d01cc2ad7$e6bf8c70$b43ea550$@net> Message-ID: And where might we see pictures of this work of art?? Richard BN2 Sent from Ricky's iPad On Jun 14, 2011, at 21:13, "Rich Chrysler" wrote: > Hello all, > > > > Today at just after noon EDT, BN1L 158893 burst into life again after being > silent since 1965. This car broke a gear back in '65 which actually probably > saved the car. It was removed from the road at that time, seems to have been > completely stripped down to almost every last nut and bolt during the > 1970's, but everything was carefully catalogued and stored. I first saw the > car in 1988 when a close friend and I went to see a "BN1 Project for Sale". > My friend bought it, moved 3 times, got married had a family, and approached > me in 2000 asking if I could help him sell it as he'd never get around to > doing the car. I bought it myself, and moved it all again. In 2006 a new > club member had been looking for a Healey and wasn't having much luck with > all the overpriced junk out there so I sold it to him as a project on the > condition that we would build for him. > > The car is finally about finished except for the many bugs and trouble > shooting that inevitably comes with the territory. She's all black with > almost all of her original persimmon orange and red interior, red top, etc. > She's a stunning piece of Healey. > > > > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cynicbass at gmail.com From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Tue Jun 14 16:29:15 2011 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:29:15 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life Message-ID: <37caf.290482f3.3b293abb@aol.com> Very cool and a hearty congratulations! In a message dated 6/14/2011 2:36:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, richchrysler at quickclic.net writes: Hello all, Today at just after noon EDT, BN1L 158893 burst into life again after being silent since 1965. This car broke a gear back in '65 which actually probably saved the car. It was removed from the road at that time, seems to have been completely stripped down to almost every last nut and bolt during the 1970's, but everything was carefully catalogued and stored. I first saw the car in 1988 when a close friend and I went to see a "BN1 Project for Sale". My friend bought it, moved 3 times, got married had a family, and approached me in 2000 asking if I could help him sell it as he'd never get around to doing the car. I bought it myself, and moved it all again. In 2006 a new club member had been looking for a Healey and wasn't having much luck with all the overpriced junk out there so I sold it to him as a project on the condition that we would build for him. The car is finally about finished except for the many bugs and trouble shooting that inevitably comes with the territory. She's all black with almost all of her original persimmon orange and red interior, red top, etc. She's a stunning piece of Healey. Rich _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options /healeys/atightprod at aol.com From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Jun 14 16:48:45 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:48:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life In-Reply-To: <001d01cc2ad7$e6bf8c70$b43ea550$@net> References: <001d01cc2ad7$e6bf8c70$b43ea550$@net> Message-ID: <019c01cc2ae5$383ad980$a8b08c80$@verizon.net> Throw a couple of photos my way and I'll post them. Seems as if some of our friends on this list wanna see them. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Chrysler Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:13 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life Hello all, Today at just after noon EDT, BN1L 158893 burst into life again after being silent since 1965. This car broke a gear back in '65 which actually probably saved the car. It was removed from the road at that time, seems to have been completely stripped down to almost every last nut and bolt during the 1970's, but everything was carefully catalogued and stored. I first saw the car in 1988 when a close friend and I went to see a "BN1 Project for Sale". My friend bought it, moved 3 times, got married had a family, and approached me in 2000 asking if I could help him sell it as he'd never get around to doing the car. I bought it myself, and moved it all again. In 2006 a new club member had been looking for a Healey and wasn't having much luck with all the overpriced junk out there so I sold it to him as a project on the condition that we would build for him. The car is finally about finished except for the many bugs and trouble shooting that inevitably comes with the territory. She's all black with almost all of her original persimmon orange and red interior, red top, etc. She's a stunning piece of Healey. Rich From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 18:12:40 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:12:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life In-Reply-To: <019c01cc2ae5$383ad980$a8b08c80$@verizon.net> References: <001d01cc2ad7$e6bf8c70$b43ea550$@net> <019c01cc2ae5$383ad980$a8b08c80$@verizon.net> Message-ID: My thoughts exactly. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 14, 2011 4:16 PM, "John Sims" wrote: > Throw a couple of photos my way and I'll post them. Seems as if some of our > friends on this list wanna see them. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Rich Chrysler > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:13 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life > > Hello all, > > > > Today at just after noon EDT, BN1L 158893 burst into life again after being > silent since 1965. This car broke a gear back in '65 which actually probably > saved the car. It was removed from the road at that time, seems to have been > completely stripped down to almost every last nut and bolt during the > 1970's, but everything was carefully catalogued and stored. I first saw the > car in 1988 when a close friend and I went to see a "BN1 Project for Sale". > My friend bought it, moved 3 times, got married had a family, and approached > me in 2000 asking if I could help him sell it as he'd never get around to > doing the car. I bought it myself, and moved it all again. In 2006 a new > club member had been looking for a Healey and wasn't having much luck with > all the overpriced junk out there so I sold it to him as a project on the > condition that we would build for him. > > The car is finally about finished except for the many bugs and trouble > shooting that inevitably comes with the territory. She's all black with > almost all of her original persimmon orange and red interior, red top, etc. > She's a stunning piece of Healey. > > > > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From ktee20 at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 18:15:24 2011 From: ktee20 at gmail.com (keith taylor) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:15:24 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 scuttle seal Message-ID: Ordered scuttle seals from Metro Rubber " problem with mould , stopped production " any other supplier out there that fits correctly. Keith Taylor OZ From AAHealeyguy at aol.com Tue Jun 14 18:55:05 2011 From: AAHealeyguy at aol.com (AAHealeyguy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] British Car Nite at El Cajon, CA Message-ID: <85f7b.66024dbc.3b295ce9@aol.com> Just to let all know that the weekly El Cajon car show is featuring British cars on Weds June 15th. Time: 5-8pm, Main Street, El Cajon, CA. If anyone wants to meet as a group (Car Club) Orange Ave has been designated, or you can park anywhere along Main St. See you there. Gerry K. (AH Club San Diego) From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed Jun 15 03:16:48 2011 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:16:48 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1B7899DE8F5045449BD02A0AC22BE513@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day As an owner of a Works Austin-Healey it really does disturb me when auction houses and authors make such glaringly obvious errors. After emails from myself and telephone calls and emails from the current owner of 57 FAC I have been today advised by RM Auctions that they will place the following online as well as on the auction block:- "Research surfaced subsequent to the publication of the catalogue has suggested that this Canadian championship-winning Healey was not in fact despatched with UK reg no. 57 FAC, which is known to be associated with another car. All the remaining assertions, including the Canadian championship racing history are not affected. A copy of the Heritage Certificate accompanies the car, which notes no UK registration number." I think it's well done to RM Auctions. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Derek Job Sent: Friday, 3 June 2011 3:33 AM To: Forum Subject: [Healeys] Canadian 'Vintage' race Healey for Auction Here is another one of those ads making a lot of claims, and connections to DMH etc, no doubt some of them true judging by the history and names mentioned. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C229969 I can't think of what class of racing that car could compete in,in Europe. Derek From timwarduk at aol.com Wed Jun 15 07:39:30 2011 From: timwarduk at aol.com (Tim Ward) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:39:30 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Workshop Jack Specification Message-ID: <004101cc2b61$a850ee40$f8f2cac0$@com> Hi Team I am going to change my Workshop Jack. Currently I have a rather poor quality Jack which is difficult to use as it does not depress low enough, and lifting the BJ8 is quite a game. The spec of the Jack is that it will lift 2 Tons. What is the minimum Weight/Lift requirement of a new Jack for a BJ8. I have a number of options all of which have low profiles which would work well, but they are all less than 2 Tons. Looking forward to your usual help. Thanks Tim Tim Ward Warwick House 12 Mill Road Kislingbury NN7 4BB Tel: 07855 388 751 www.sixsigmaworks.co.uk www.Shuttermagic.co.uk www.kislingburyonline.co.uk/index.php [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 07:58:39 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:58:39 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Seat runner - right hand side Message-ID: Hi, I am looking for a right-hand side seat runner set. Can anybody help me? Thanks: Gergo From fogbro1 at comcast.net Wed Jun 15 08:30:35 2011 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:30:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again Message-ID: <1223157005.2314659.1308148235019.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> List, Well, I did purchase a 4 wheel engine stand, but, having got it home and having mounted the 6 cylinder lump, I'm not at all satisfied with my purchase for the following reasons: 1. With the engine upright and sitting so high, it still appears unsafe to use as a rebuild platform. 2. The engine cannot be rotated. The overhung load is so great that, even with the clamping bolt loose, the tube-within-tube mounting point binds. I had to use the assist of a chain hoist to be able to rotate the engine. 3. The wheels on the engine stand are too small in diameter, making it difficult, if not dangerous, to move over even the smallest irregularity or groove in the concrete. All that said, have any of you found a stand that is stable with the engine upright, moves about a smooth floor easily, and allows rotation of the engine? Or must this hunk of iron be dealt with in a different manner? Right now the stand is providing a storage point off the floor. That's all. TIA, Ed Woods From dan at warner-associates.com Wed Jun 15 08:42:55 2011 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:42:55 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life In-Reply-To: <001d01cc2ad7$e6bf8c70$b43ea550$@net> References: <001d01cc2ad7$e6bf8c70$b43ea550$@net> Message-ID: <8543D9EF1CF2408890B21DA36A92DB8A@DANSTROM> Rich: Outstanding and congratulations. If you did the rebuild it is probably one of the finest examples on the road. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Chrysler Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:13 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life Hello all, Today at just after noon EDT, BN1L 158893 burst into life again after being silent since 1965. This car broke a gear back in '65 which actually probably saved the car. It was removed from the road at that time, seems to have been completely stripped down to almost every last nut and bolt during the 1970's, but everything was carefully catalogued and stored. I first saw the car in 1988 when a close friend and I went to see a "BN1 Project for Sale". My friend bought it, moved 3 times, got married had a family, and approached me in 2000 asking if I could help him sell it as he'd never get around to doing the car. I bought it myself, and moved it all again. In 2006 a new club member had been looking for a Healey and wasn't having much luck with all the overpriced junk out there so I sold it to him as a project on the condition that we would build for him. The car is finally about finished except for the many bugs and trouble shooting that inevitably comes with the territory. She's all black with almost all of her original persimmon orange and red interior, red top, etc. She's a stunning piece of Healey. Rich _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dan at warner-associates.com From dan at warner-associates.com Wed Jun 15 09:08:48 2011 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:08:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Seat runner - right hand side In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1DCD4D93FFEE4B39AF66E3F697135486@DANSTROM> You can buy those from British Car Specialists. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Austin Healey Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:59 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Seat runner - right hand side Hi, I am looking for a right-hand side seat runner set. Can anybody help me? Thanks: Gergo _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dan at warner-associates.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Jun 15 09:36:52 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:36:52 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] parts Message-ID: <4DF8D194.2020203@chello.nl> Miscellaneous AH parts on ebay. http://shop.ebay.co.uk/zaceca/m.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A4908&rt=nc&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14.l1581&_pgn=2 Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 15 09:39:29 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:39:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again References: <1223157005.2314659.1308148235019.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <000601cc2b72$6c758910$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> I suggest removing the head before rotating. This takes a considerable amount of weight off the unit. Even then its not a bad idea to have an assistant to help in the rotation operation. There are so many different units available online and at parts stores. I would suggest 1000 lb unit capacity is a good standard. And the balance of the unit after the engine is hanging is important. Our straight six eng. are pretty long compared to even some standard 8 cyl. of today. Hope you shopped around. Take it back if you don't feel safe and tell them what the problem is. They can probably get you one that works better. Some of this is trial and error unfortunately. FYI, my main problem with my unit was that the damn bolt tubes on the engine carriage weren't long enough to clear the crank shaft pulley. And of course I wasn't aware of this until I got the engine in situ , hanging on the stand and went to turn the crank and Damn-it. No go. I had to set the engine down and shim up the the bolt tubes with about 7 washers on each tube. That was fun.. Like I said , trial and error. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:30 AM Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again > List, > > > > Well, I did purchase a 4 wheel engine stand, but, having got it home and > having mounted the 6 cylinder lump, I'm not at all satisfied with my > purchase for the following reasons: > > > > 1. With the engine upright and sitting so high, it still appears unsafe to > use as a rebuild platform. > > 2. The engine cannot be rotated. The overhung load is so great that, even > with the clamping bolt loose, the tube-within-tube mounting point binds. I > had to use the assist of a chain hoist to be able to rotate the engine. > > 3. The wheels on the engine stand are too small in diameter, making it > difficult, if not dangerous, to move over even the smallest irregularity > or groove in the concrete. > > > > All that said, have any of you found a stand that is stable with the > engine upright, moves about a smooth floor easily, and allows rotation of > the engine? > > > > Or must this hunk of iron be dealt with in a different manner? > > > > Right now the stand is providing a storage point off the floor. That's > all. > > > > TIA, > > > > Ed Woods > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Wed Jun 15 10:03:18 2011 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:03:18 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] parts In-Reply-To: <4DF8D194.2020203@chello.nl> References: <4DF8D194.2020203@chello.nl> Message-ID: <001601cc2b75$be652750$3b2f75f0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> I saw the orange in all the pics and assumed that the vendor was a proud Dutch royalist, but it seems I'm mistaken. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Oudesluys Sent: 15 June 2011 16:37 To: 4 - Healeys Subject: [Healeys] parts Miscellaneous AH parts on ebay. http://shop.ebay.co.uk/zaceca/m.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39 %253A1%257C72%253A4908&rt=nc&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14.l1581&_pgn=2 Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk From tld6008 at mchsi.com Wed Jun 15 10:08:55 2011 From: tld6008 at mchsi.com (Tim Davis BN7) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:08:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again In-Reply-To: <1223157005.2314659.1308148235019.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1524655309.66201308154135115.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs14> Did you mount the engine by the side motor mount location? Tim Davis BN7 ----- Original Message ----- From: fogbro1 at comcast.net To: "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 9:30:35 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again List, Well, I did purchase a 4 wheel engine stand, but, having got it home and having mounted the 6 cylinder lump, I'm not at all satisfied with my purchase for the following reasons: 1. With the engine upright and sitting so high, it still appears unsafe to use as a rebuild platform. 2. The engine cannot be rotated. The overhung load is so great that, even with the clamping bolt loose, the tube-within-tube mounting point binds. I had to use the assist of a chain hoist to be able to rotate the engine. 3. The wheels on the engine stand are too small in diameter, making it difficult, if not dangerous, to move over even the smallest irregularity or groove in the concrete. All that said, have any of you found a stand that is stable with the engine upright, moves about a smooth floor easily, and allows rotation of the engine? Or must this hunk of iron be dealt with in a different manner? Right now the stand is providing a storage point off the floor. That's all. TIA, Ed Woods _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tld6008 at mchsi.com From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jun 15 11:00:33 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Power Message-ID: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I noticed on my most recent long road trip that my BJ8 seemed to be running out of HP and/or torque on long uphill grades. I seem to get to about 4K RPM then the engine won't rev any more (yes, I downshift as required--it just seems the engine should be able to rev a bit more to go with the low-end torque). The engine is mostly stock--except for aftermarket air and oil filters and Pertronix ignition--and has about 80K miles on a rebuild. Cylinders were bored 0.030" over from an earlier rebuild. The cam is the mildest of 5 grinds offered by Crower; slightly lopey at idle but generally smooth and responsive (about 252deg overlap at 0.050"). I have a Lempert 3.54 rearend installed, which of course has a significant impact. The exhaust is made of Ansa pipes with newer glasspacks stitched in--I believe it flows reasonably well. Anyway, I'm starting to think about the next rebuild and wondering what might address this issue. I know headers, Webers, etc. would address breathing issues, but I want to keep stock intake and exhaust. What would help this engine's apparent emphysema; more radical cam, Al head, shorter exhaust system, lightened flywheel, higher CR, ...? I don't want to build a racer, just want to address the wheezing at higher RPMs. IOW, I'm willing to trade (a little) bottom end torque for a bit more top end. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Jun 15 11:03:53 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:03:53 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] parts In-Reply-To: <001601cc2b75$be652750$3b2f75f0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <4DF8D194.2020203@chello.nl> <001601cc2b75$be652750$3b2f75f0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <4DF8E5F9.1080202@chello.nl> Nothing to do with me or NL. Just came across it and thought that there might be something interesting for the AH owners. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From normcay at volcano.net Wed Jun 15 11:06:13 2011 From: normcay at volcano.net (Norman Cay) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:06:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] MG-TD Message-ID: <4DF8E685.1000007@volcano.net> Sorry about the non AH question, but can anyone tell me how much a 1953 TD weighs (complete) Norm, BN1 and TD From frogeye at porterscustom.com Wed Jun 15 11:33:43 2011 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:33:43 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Power In-Reply-To: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Floor the gas pedal then look and see if the carbs are actually fully open.. dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:01 AM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Power I noticed on my most recent long road trip that my BJ8 seemed to be running out of HP and/or torque on long uphill grades. I seem to get to about 4K RPM then the engine won't rev any more (yes, I downshift as required--it just seems the engine should be able to rev a bit more to go with the low-end torque). The engine is mostly stock--except for aftermarket air and oil filters and Pertronix ignition--and has about 80K miles on a rebuild. Cylinders were bored 0.030" over from an earlier rebuild. The cam is the mildest of 5 grinds offered by Crower; slightly lopey at idle but generally smooth and responsive (about 252deg overlap at 0.050"). I have a Lempert 3.54 rearend installed, which of course has a significant impact. The exhaust is made of Ansa pipes with newer glasspacks stitched in--I believe it flows reasonably well. Anyway, I'm starting to think about the next rebuild and wondering what might address this issue. I know headers, Webers, etc. would address breathing issues, but I want to keep stock intake and exhaust. What would help this engine's apparent emphysema; more radical cam, Al head, shorter exhaust system, lightened flywheel, higher CR, ...? I don't want to build a racer, just want to address the wheezing at higher RPMs. IOW, I'm willing to trade (a little) bottom end torque for a bit more top end. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Jun 15 11:34:09 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:34:09 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Power In-Reply-To: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4DF8ED11.7080405@chello.nl> Try a new fuel filter first. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From rnbmail at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 11:55:57 2011 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] driving lights In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <174430.98200.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ron, yes - try these big Marchals....I have a bracket design for them that are totally wobble free. Pics sent outside this mail. Robert. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com --- On Mon, 6/13/11, F Ronald Rader wrote: > From: F Ronald Rader > Subject: [Healeys] driving lights > To: "List Healey" > Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 7:09 PM > I have two front mounted driving > lights of dubious quality. > I keep putting in bigger bulbs until we reach 105 Watt. > Those worked best but are melting everything and > discoloring the lens. > They are powered by a 150 amp GM alternator so power is not > the problem: > Question: > I want two new period looking high powered driving lights > for fast > night time driving. > Think Montana! > > Any ideas? > XK has new repro Lucas lights but they suggest 45 watt > bulbs. > TIA > ron rader > Playa del Rey CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rnbmail at yahoo.com From fogbro1 at comcast.net Wed Jun 15 12:17:29 2011 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again In-Reply-To: <1524655309.66201308154135115.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs14> Message-ID: <938125599.2330321.1308161849788.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Tim, No, it's mounted by the rear flange, flywheel and clutch removed. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Davis BN7" To: fogbro1 at comcast.net Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:08:55 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again Did you mount the engine by the side motor mount location? Tim Davis BN7 ----- Original Message ----- From: fogbro1 at comcast.net To: "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 9:30:35 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again List, Well, I did purchase a 4 wheel engine stand, but, having got it home and having mounted the 6 cylinder lump, I'm not at all satisfied with my purchase for the following reasons: 1. With the engine upright and sitting so high, it still appears unsafe to use as a rebuild platform. 2. The engine cannot be rotated. The overhung load is so great that, even with the clamping bolt loose, the tube-within-tube mounting point binds. I had to use the assist of a chain hoist to be able to rotate the engine. 3. The wheels on the engine stand are too small in diameter, making it difficult, if not dangerous, to move over even the smallest irregularity or groove in the concrete. All that said, have any of you found a stand that is stable with the engine upright, moves about a smooth floor easily, and allows rotation of the engine? Or must this hunk of iron be dealt with in a different manner? Right now the stand is providing a storage point off the floor. That's all. TIA, Ed Woods _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tld6008 at mchsi.com From jagxk120 at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 12:41:40 2011 From: jagxk120 at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:41:40 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] MG-TD In-Reply-To: <4DF8E685.1000007@volcano.net> References: <4DF8E685.1000007@volcano.net> Message-ID: <4DF8FCE4.3060300@gmail.com> Norm, Couldn't find the MG-TD. A 53 MG-TF weighs 916 Kgs (including 54 Kgs of fuel). Hope this helps, B BT7L244 Le 15/06/11 19:06, Norman Cay a icrit : > > Sorry about the non AH question, but can anyone tell me how much a 1953 TD > weighs (complete) > Norm, BN1 and TD > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jagxk120 at gmail.com From tld6008 at mchsi.com Wed Jun 15 12:43:05 2011 From: tld6008 at mchsi.com (Tim Davis BN7) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:43:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again In-Reply-To: <938125599.2330321.1308161849788.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1357424473.97881308163385033.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs14> I personally would not mount it in that fashion. I've always mounted it by the right side engine mount. Never had an issue rotating it and it feels and looks secure. The engine on my stand now has been there for 4 years. Tim Davis BN7 ----- Original Message ----- From: fogbro1 at comcast.net To: "Tim Davis BN7" Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:17:29 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again Tim, No, it's mounted by the rear flange, flywheel and clutch removed. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Davis BN7" To: fogbro1 at comcast.net Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:08:55 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again Did you mount the engine by the side motor mount location? Tim Davis BN7 ----- Original Message ----- From: fogbro1 at comcast.net To: "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 9:30:35 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again List, Well, I did purchase a 4 wheel engine stand, but, having got it home and having mounted the 6 cylinder lump, I'm not at all satisfied with my purchase for the following reasons: 1. With the engine upright and sitting so high, it still appears unsafe to use as a rebuild platform. 2. The engine cannot be rotated. The overhung load is so great that, even with the clamping bolt loose, the tube-within-tube mounting point binds. I had to use the assist of a chain hoist to be able to rotate the engine. 3. The wheels on the engine stand are too small in diameter, making it difficult, if not dangerous, to move over even the smallest irregularity or groove in the concrete. All that said, have any of you found a stand that is stable with the engine upright, moves about a smooth floor easily, and allows rotation of the engine? Or must this hunk of iron be dealt with in a different manner? Right now the stand is providing a storage point off the floor. That's all. TIA, Ed Woods _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tld6008 at mchsi.com From normcay at volcano.net Wed Jun 15 13:23:56 2011 From: normcay at volcano.net (Norman Cay) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:23:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] MG weight Message-ID: <4DF906CC.6000809@volcano.net> Thanks for the quick response(s) very much appreciated. I am registering one in California that has been off the road for at least 12 years. Thanks again, Norm From peter.svilans at rogers.com Wed Jun 15 14:01:57 2011 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:01:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] MG-TD Message-ID: <503A879E2A0C4A1E869F71916233993A@9535DEE118EC44B> Norm, Graham Robson's book on the T-Series gives the unladen weight of a TD as 1,930 lbs (875.5 kg). Filling it with gas adds 2.2 lbs per quart to that. Best regards Peter From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Jun 15 14:19:58 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:19:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco poster Message-ID: <006301cc2b99$99c27370$cd475a50$@verizon.net> Ever since it was noted on this list that Sunoco has a poster (and heading on a web site) featuring what appears to be an Austin Healey I have been trying to contact them both by email and phone to ascertain if it is possible to purchase the advertising posters. Today I reached on the phone a person by the name of Charlie Valis who apparently is in charge of their advertising department. (that will serve him for not having a secretary screen his calls!) He will see if it is possible to have some of these posters available for purchase. He promises to get back to me by the end of the week. We shall see. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Wed Jun 15 14:21:02 2011 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:21:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] MG-TD References: <4DF8E685.1000007@volcano.net> Message-ID: Per the Workshop manual, a TD weighs 2,072 lbs unladen; 2,464 lbs laden with two passengers. (They were smallish people of the 1950s :^) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Cay" To: "Healeys" Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:06 PM Subject: [Healeys] MG-TD > Sorry about the non AH question, but can anyone tell me how much a 1953 TD > weighs (complete) > Norm, BN1 and TD > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dcongleton at embarqmail.com From gmandas at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 15:35:05 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco poster In-Reply-To: <006301cc2b99$99c27370$cd475a50$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <912647.98542.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Count me in. assuming ... --- On Wed, 6/15/11, John Sims wrote: > From: John Sims > Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco poster > To: "Healey List" > Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 4:19 PM > Ever since it was noted on this list > that Sunoco has a poster (and heading > on a web site) featuring what appears to be an Austin > Healey I have been > trying to contact them both by email and phone to ascertain > if it is > possible to purchase the advertising posters. Today I > reached on the phone a > person by the name of Charlie Valis who apparently is in > charge of their > advertising department. (that will serve him for not having > a secretary > screen his calls!) He will see if it is possible to have > some of these > posters available for purchase. He promises to get back to > me by the end of > the week. > > We shall see. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com From jagxk120 at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 15:37:12 2011 From: jagxk120 at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:37:12 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Jaguar E S1 3.8 wanted Message-ID: <4DF92608.50208@gmail.com> Guys (and others), Having sold my Jaguar E to a man who made an offer you can't refuse, I'm looking for a decent (not mint) early S13.8 coupi, owner or point me to a dealer. Please contact me off list. Bernard, Paris, France 62 Jaguar E-Type - 885504 (ex) 54 Jaguar XK120 - 681467 59 Austin-Healey - HBT7L244 66 Porsche 911 - 607321 From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Jun 15 16:38:54 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:38:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life References: <001d01cc2ad7$e6bf8c70$b43ea550$@net> Message-ID: <007001cc2bad$0269b380$073d1a80$@verizon.net> Rich Chrysler's photos are now on my site on the Contact Me page. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: John Sims [mailto:ahbn6 at verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Rich Chrysler'; 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life Throw a couple of photos my way and I'll post them. Seems as if some of our friends on this list wanna see them. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Chrysler Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:13 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life Hello all, Today at just after noon EDT, BN1L 158893 burst into life again after being silent since 1965. This car broke a gear back in '65 which actually probably saved the car. It was removed from the road at that time, seems to have been completely stripped down to almost every last nut and bolt during the 1970's, but everything was carefully catalogued and stored. I first saw the car in 1988 when a close friend and I went to see a "BN1 Project for Sale". My friend bought it, moved 3 times, got married had a family, and approached me in 2000 asking if I could help him sell it as he'd never get around to doing the car. I bought it myself, and moved it all again. In 2006 a new club member had been looking for a Healey and wasn't having much luck with all the overpriced junk out there so I sold it to him as a project on the condition that we would build for him. The car is finally about finished except for the many bugs and trouble shooting that inevitably comes with the territory. She's all black with almost all of her original persimmon orange and red interior, red top, etc. She's a stunning piece of Healey. Rich From e-wilkins at cox.net Wed Jun 15 17:09:49 2011 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:09:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey sighting on ebay ad In-Reply-To: <006301cc2b99$99c27370$cd475a50$@verizon.net> References: <006301cc2b99$99c27370$cd475a50$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Was shopping on ebay and this ad showed up: http://ewilkins.com/wilko/pics/ebay_healey.png Wilko San Diego From austin.healey at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 17:16:37 2011 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:16:37 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Power In-Reply-To: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <0789E1CF-C555-431D-892B-91264ABA3758@gmail.com> Hi Bob, Check your fuel delivery volume. I.e. How much fuel your pump delivers per minute. I had the same issue with a Sprite once. Turned out to be a weak fuel pump..... http://www.myaustinhealey.com/austin_healey_technical_articles.html Best. Chris Sent from my iPhone On 16/06/2011, at 3:00 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > I noticed on my most recent long road trip that my BJ8 seemed to be > running out of HP and/or torque on long uphill grades. I seem to get > to about 4K RPM then the engine won't rev any more (yes, I downshift > as required--it just seems the engine should be able to rev a bit > more to go with the low-end torque). The engine is mostly stock-- > except for aftermarket air and oil filters and Pertronix ignition-- > and has about 80K miles on a rebuild. Cylinders were bored 0.030" > over from an earlier rebuild. The cam is the mildest of 5 grinds > offered by Crower; slightly lopey at idle but generally smooth and > responsive (about 252deg overlap at 0.050"). I have a Lempert 3.54 > rearend installed, which of course has a significant impact. The > exhaust is made of Ansa pipes with newer glasspacks stitched in--I > believe it flows reasonably well. > > > Bob From MBran89793 at aol.com Wed Jun 15 17:30:28 2011 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:30:28 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life Message-ID: <3bfb.13d023d5.3b2a9a94@aol.com> Thanks John for posting the pictures . And Rich thanks for the great pictures, but can you put a little sound with them? Just want to be sure that it really does run too. LOL Marion Brantley In a message dated 6/15/2011 7:07:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ahbn6 at verizon.net writes: Rich Chrysler's photos are now on my site on the Contact Me page. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: John Sims [mailto:ahbn6 at verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:49 PM To: 'Rich Chrysler'; 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life Throw a couple of photos my way and I'll post them. Seems as if some of our friends on this list wanna see them. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Chrysler Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:13 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life Hello all, Today at just after noon EDT, BN1L 158893 burst into life again after being silent since 1965. This car broke a gear back in '65 which actually probably saved the car. It was removed from the road at that time, seems to have been completely stripped down to almost every last nut and bolt during the 1970's, but everything was carefully catalogued and stored. I first saw the car in 1988 when a close friend and I went to see a "BN1 Project for Sale". My friend bought it, moved 3 times, got married had a family, and approached me in 2000 asking if I could help him sell it as he'd never get around to doing the car. I bought it myself, and moved it all again. In 2006 a new club member had been looking for a Healey and wasn't having much luck with all the overpriced junk out there so I sold it to him as a project on the condition that we would build for him. The car is finally about finished except for the many bugs and trouble shooting that inevitably comes with the territory. She's all black with almost all of her original persimmon orange and red interior, red top, etc. She's a stunning piece of Healey. Rich _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mbran89793 at aol.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 17:41:32 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:41:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Power In-Reply-To: <0789E1CF-C555-431D-892B-91264ABA3758@gmail.com> References: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <0789E1CF-C555-431D-892B-91264ABA3758@gmail.com> Message-ID: I know it was said before, but check for dirty fuel filter of carb screens if fited On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > Hi Bob, > Check your fuel delivery volume. I.e. How much fuel your pump delivers per > minute. I had the same issue with a Sprite once. Turned out to be a weak > fuel pump..... > http://www.myaustinhealey.com/austin_healey_technical_articles.html > Best. > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 16/06/2011, at 3:00 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > I noticed on my most recent long road trip that my BJ8 seemed to be >> running out of HP and/or torque on long uphill grades. I seem to get to >> about 4K RPM then the engine won't rev any more (yes, I downshift as >> required--it just seems the engine should be able to rev a bit more to go >> with the low-end torque). The engine is mostly stock--except for aftermarket >> air and oil filters and Pertronix ignition--and has about 80K miles on a >> rebuild. Cylinders were bored 0.030" over from an earlier rebuild. The cam >> is the mildest of 5 grinds offered by Crower; slightly lopey at idle but >> generally smooth and responsive (about 252deg overlap at 0.050"). I have a >> Lempert 3.54 rearend installed, which of course has a significant impact. >> The exhaust is made of Ansa pipes with newer glasspacks stitched in--I >> believe it flows reasonably well. >> >> >> Bob >> > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 18:02:41 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:02:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life In-Reply-To: <3bfb.13d023d5.3b2a9a94@aol.com> References: <3bfb.13d023d5.3b2a9a94@aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks for helping with the location of the photos. As expected... What a beauty!!!! Great job Rich On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:30 PM, wrote: > Thanks John for posting the pictures . > And Rich thanks for the great pictures, but can you put a little sound with > them? Just want to be sure that it really does run too. LOL > Marion Brantley > > > In a message dated 6/15/2011 7:07:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > ahbn6 at verizon.net writes: > > Rich Chrysler's photos are now on my site on the Contact Me page. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Sims [mailto:ahbn6 at verizon.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:49 PM > To: 'Rich Chrysler'; 'healeys at autox.team.net' > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life > > Throw a couple of photos my way and I'll post them. Seems as if some of > our > friends on this list wanna see them. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Rich Chrysler > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:13 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Another BN1 Returns to Life > > Hello all, > > > > Today at just after noon EDT, BN1L 158893 burst into life again after > being > silent since 1965. This car broke a gear back in '65 which actually > probably > saved the car. It was removed from the road at that time, seems to have > been > completely stripped down to almost every last nut and bolt during the > 1970's, but everything was carefully catalogued and stored. I first saw > the > car in 1988 when a close friend and I went to see a "BN1 Project for > Sale". > My friend bought it, moved 3 times, got married had a family, and > approached > me in 2000 asking if I could help him sell it as he'd never get around to > doing the car. I bought it myself, and moved it all again. In 2006 a new > club member had been looking for a Healey and wasn't having much luck with > all the overpriced junk out there so I sold it to him as a project on the > condition that we would build for him. > > The car is finally about finished except for the many bugs and trouble > shooting that inevitably comes with the territory. She's all black with > almost all of her original persimmon orange and red interior, red top, > etc. > She's a stunning piece of Healey. > > > > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mbran89793 at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 15 18:14:12 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:14:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again References: <1357424473.97881308163385033.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs14> Message-ID: <001101cc2bba$52ae2e40$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Wow, flippen that puppy over has to a strange undertaking. Don't think I have ever seen that in any of my manuals. Do you actually work on it in that position or is it just for storage? Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Davis BN7" To: Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again >I personally would not mount it in that fashion. I've always mounted it by >the right side engine mount. Never had an issue rotating it and it feels >and looks secure. The engine on my stand now has been there for 4 years. > > Tim Davis BN7 > >.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 18:50:28 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:50:28 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Power In-Reply-To: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Sounds to me like a fuel delivery problem. When you hit 4K and it won't go any faster, immediately shut off motor and coast to a stop and check float bowls. Probably empty. My guess is rust in the tank clogging your fuel pump reducing flow rate. All these fuel additives like oxygenators and ethanol introduce more water into the fuel. Our tanks are rusting from the inside out! Alan On 6/16/11, Bob Spidell wrote: > I noticed on my most recent long road trip that my BJ8 seemed to be running > out of HP and/or torque on long uphill grades. I seem to get to about 4K RPM > then the engine won't rev any more (yes, I downshift as required--it just > seems the engine should be able to rev a bit more to go with the low-end > torque). The engine is mostly stock--except for aftermarket air and oil > filters and Pertronix ignition--and has about 80K miles on a rebuild. > Cylinders were bored 0.030" over from an earlier rebuild. The cam is the > mildest of 5 grinds offered by Crower; slightly lopey at idle but generally > smooth and responsive (about 252deg overlap at 0.050"). I have a Lempert > 3.54 rearend installed, which of course has a significant impact. The > exhaust is made of Ansa pipes with newer glasspacks stitched in--I believe > it flows reasonably well. > > Anyway, I'm starting to think about the next rebuild and wondering what > might address this issue. I know headers, Webers, etc. would address > breathing issues, but I want to keep stock intake and exhaust. What would > help this engine's apparent emphysema; more radical cam, Al head, shorter > exhaust system, lightened flywheel, higher CR, ...? I don't want to build a > racer, just want to address the wheezing at higher RPMs. IOW, I'm willing to > trade (a little) bottom end torque for a bit more top end. > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From drmasucci at comcast.net Wed Jun 15 19:20:42 2011 From: drmasucci at comcast.net (David Masucci) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:20:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Long Shot References: <1357424473.97881308163385033.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs14> <001101cc2bba$52ae2e40$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <4B2FE28F29024BDBA071E8BE204E296D@lab092908> Hi All, I know it's a long shot but I figured it's worth asking. I'm looking for a Denis Welch header (CEXS120) for a 6 cylinder Healey. If anyone has one that is not being used I'm interested in purchasing it. If not I"ll buy new. Thanks, Dave 64 BJ8 From rnbmail at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 19:24:09 2011 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? Message-ID: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Listers, The time has arrived for a new exhaust system on my BJ8. Banged up rear boxes are holed/rusted thru - just age and bottoming out. Would like the List's collective experience. Here are some facts/questions for those folks that have replaced exhausts recently: 1. I am not interested in SS system - unecessary expese here in dry CA. 2. So steel is fine for me. I will probably paint it black anyway. 3. We all know the low ground clearance issue on the Healey/BJ8 rear boxes - and my rear is lowered 2 inches for appearance - plan to leave it as such. 4. If I use a full BJ8 system with rear boxes, which manufacturer would you recommend and why? Where is good price incl delivery to N. CA? [I currently have a Walker brand I think] 5. If I use a front part BJ8 system and replace the rear cross boxes with 2 straight pipes out the back/LHS, how much will the noise increase. Likeable or too noisy for easy driving? Fruity is ok for me. 6. The Moss BJ7 system has an oval/thinner double pipe front box and no rear boxes. Obviously better on ground clearance at mid and rear of car. Has anyone put a BJ7 system on a BJ8 - did you like it and why? What were the fitting problems? BJ7 system is much cheaper then BJ8. 7. Any other suggestions - smart or otherwise? Thx. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com / RNB333 at live.com From javrugtman at htcnet.org Wed Jun 15 19:58:07 2011 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:58:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? In-Reply-To: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DF9632F.30400@htcnet.org> Have a BJ7 or earlier system on one BJ8. Had fitting problems, but nothing a little creative work couldn't fix. Sounds louder, but nice. John 64/66BJ8s On 6/15/2011 9:24 PM, Robert Blair wrote: > Hi Listers, The time has arrived for a new exhaust system on my BJ8. Banged > up rear boxes are holed/rusted thru - just age and bottoming out. > > Would like the List's collective experience. Here are some facts/questions > for those folks that have replaced exhausts recently: > 1. I am not interested in SS system - unecessary expese here in dry CA. > 2. So steel is fine for me. I will probably paint it black anyway. > 3. We all know the low ground clearance issue on the Healey/BJ8 rear boxes - > and my rear is lowered 2 inches for appearance - plan to leave it as such. > 4. If I use a full BJ8 system with rear boxes, which manufacturer would you > recommend and why? Where is good price incl delivery to N. CA? [I currently > have a Walker brand I think] > 5. If I use a front part BJ8 system and replace the rear cross boxes with 2 > straight pipes out the back/LHS, how much will the noise increase. Likeable > or too noisy for easy driving? Fruity is ok for me. > 6. The Moss BJ7 system has an oval/thinner double pipe front box and no rear > boxes. Obviously better on ground clearance at mid and rear of car. Has > anyone put a BJ7 system on a BJ8 - did you like it and why? What were the > fitting problems? BJ7 system is much cheaper then BJ8. > 7. Any other suggestions - smart or otherwise? > > Thx. > Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com / RNB333 at live.com > > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/javrugtman at htcnet.org From tld6008 at mchsi.com Wed Jun 15 20:41:27 2011 From: tld6008 at mchsi.com (Tim Davis BN7) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:41:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again In-Reply-To: <001101cc2bba$52ae2e40$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <487060568.182741308192087150.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs14> Seems to work fine for me. Lately it has been a storage stand. The weight is close in to the vertical component and not cantilevered, so to speak, so it does not want to overturn the stand. Tim Davis BN7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark LaPierre" To: healeys at Autox.Team.Net Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:14:12 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again Wow, flippen that puppy over has to a strange undertaking. Don't think I have ever seen that in any of my manuals. Do you actually work on it in that position or is it just for storage? Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Davis BN7" To: Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Stands Again >I personally would not mount it in that fashion. I've always mounted it by >the right side engine mount. Never had an issue rotating it and it feels >and looks secure. The engine on my stand now has been there for 4 years. > > Tim Davis BN7 > >.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tld6008 at mchsi.com From sbyers at ec.rr.com Wed Jun 15 21:22:31 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:22:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? In-Reply-To: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007e01cc2bd4$a0d31170$e2793450$@rr.com> Robert, moisture that rusts out an exhaust system comes more from what the engine generates than from external sources such as wet streets. The hardest thing on an exhaust system is short trips that do not allow the engine to get well up to temperature to dry everything out before shutting it down. I have a stainless exhaust system on my BJ8 that I installed in 1986, and although it has its share of dents, it's still doing its job as well as it did new. It came from Moss, but I have no idea about the quality of what they are selling now. Mild steel exhausts are fine as long as you limit the frequency of short trips. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Blair Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 9:24 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? Hi Listers, The time has arrived for a new exhaust system on my BJ8. Banged up rear boxes are holed/rusted thru - just age and bottoming out. Would like the List's collective experience. Here are some facts/questions for those folks that have replaced exhausts recently: 1. I am not interested in SS system - unecessary expese here in dry CA. 2. So steel is fine for me. I will probably paint it black anyway. 3. We all know the low ground clearance issue on the Healey/BJ8 rear boxes - and my rear is lowered 2 inches for appearance - plan to leave it as such. 4. If I use a full BJ8 system with rear boxes, which manufacturer would you recommend and why? Where is good price incl delivery to N. CA? [I currently have a Walker brand I think] 5. If I use a front part BJ8 system and replace the rear cross boxes with 2 straight pipes out the back/LHS, how much will the noise increase. Likeable or too noisy for easy driving? Fruity is ok for me. 6. The Moss BJ7 system has an oval/thinner double pipe front box and no rear boxes. Obviously better on ground clearance at mid and rear of car. Has anyone put a BJ7 system on a BJ8 - did you like it and why? What were the fitting problems? BJ7 system is much cheaper then BJ8. 7. Any other suggestions - smart or otherwise? Thx. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com / RNB333 at live.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 21:36:52 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:36:52 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? In-Reply-To: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 1. I am not interested in SS system - unecessary expese here in dry CA. The purpose of SS has nothing to do with whether you are in a dry or wet climate. Water is a natural byproduct of combustion, and when your exhaust system cools down, water will always pool into the bottom of your muffler/silencer. That's why mufflers usually go bad at the bottom of the muffler at the seam. In a Healey this area is under even more stress due to the regular touching of the bottom of the muffler, at the end cap seam, with pavement. Any mild steel system will probably last around 30K miles before holes start appearing. If you are ok with that and welding them up as they appear, then go with mild steel. That being said this issue with mild steel gives you a MUCH bigger chance of having a broken silencer baffle in the near future, which sounds like hell and can't be fixed unless replaced. I favor SS because of this rust-baffle problem. 2. So steel is fine for me. I will probably paint it black anyway. ok. 3. We all know the low ground clearance issue on the Healey/BJ8 rear boxes - and my rear is lowered 2 inches for appearance - plan to leave it as such. The rear boxes are usually fine if the BJ8 suspension is stock and in good shape. If you have lowered your car, I would get rid of these resonators, although in my opinion I like the sound of them. Quiet but sporty. 4. If I use a full BJ8 system with rear boxes, which manufacturer would you recommend and why? Where is good price incl delivery to N. CA? [I currently have a Walker brand I think] I would just go with whatever David Nock at BCS has. They will be able to ground ship, and BCS is generally good about vetting for quality. 5. If I use a front part BJ8 system and replace the rear cross boxes with 2 straight pipes out the back/LHS, how much will the noise increase. Likeable or too noisy for easy driving? Fruity is ok for me. Some people swear by this set up, that it sounds very cool. It will be louder, however. People on this list seem to think this sounds better than the stock BJ7 unit. Also note the out pipes are bigger on the BJ8, so you will have slightly better HP with the BJ8 silencers. 6. The Moss BJ7 system has an oval/thinner double pipe front box and no rear boxes. Obviously better on ground clearance at mid and rear of car. Has anyone put a BJ7 system on a BJ8 - did you like it and why? What were the fitting problems? BJ7 system is much cheaper then BJ8. BJ7 Advantages - lighter and easier to fit. BJ8 Advantages - more HP, sounds a bit better and with separate silencers for cyl 1-3 and 4-6, gives you much better ability to diagnose engine running problems. 7. Any other suggestions - smart or otherwise? I'd say go for the BJ8 w/ straightpipes... although I am partial to having all four silencers on my BJ8. Alan From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Wed Jun 15 22:02:00 2011 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:02:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? In-Reply-To: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <877EF813645D4F41AC3386036781984B@LeonardPCPC> Robert: All I can offer is my experience with a BJ8 system that had had the resonators removed by the previous owner. The pipes went straight back on the left hand side. Great sound on acceleration and cruising but on deceleration and especially going down a hill was constant backfiring. Very annoying. I installed the resonators and the backfiring went away. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Blair" To: "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 6:24 PM Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? > Hi Listers, The time has arrived for a new exhaust system on my BJ8. > Banged > up rear boxes are holed/rusted thru - just age and bottoming out. > > Would like the List's collective experience. Here are some > facts/questions > for those folks that have replaced exhausts recently: > 1. I am not interested in SS system - unecessary expese here in dry CA. > 2. So steel is fine for me. I will probably paint it black anyway. > 3. We all know the low ground clearance issue on the Healey/BJ8 rear > boxes - > and my rear is lowered 2 inches for appearance - plan to leave it as such. > 4. If I use a full BJ8 system with rear boxes, which manufacturer would > you > recommend and why? Where is good price incl delivery to N. CA? [I > currently > have a Walker brand I think] > 5. If I use a front part BJ8 system and replace the rear cross boxes with > 2 > straight pipes out the back/LHS, how much will the noise increase. > Likeable > or too noisy for easy driving? Fruity is ok for me. > 6. The Moss BJ7 system has an oval/thinner double pipe front box and no > rear > boxes. Obviously better on ground clearance at mid and rear of car. Has > anyone put a BJ7 system on a BJ8 - did you like it and why? What were the > fitting problems? BJ7 system is much cheaper then BJ8. > 7. Any other suggestions - smart or otherwise? > > Thx. > Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com / RNB333 at live.com > > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Jun 15 22:15:39 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:15:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Power In-Reply-To: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <00c101cc2bdc$0ced4ea0$26c7ebe0$@net> I've seen these symptoms on a car with a partially crushed fuel line. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: 2011-06-15 1:01 To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Power I noticed on my most recent long road trip that my BJ8 seemed to be running out of HP and/or torque on long uphill grades. I seem to get to about 4K RPM then the engine won't rev any more (yes, I downshift as required--it just seems the engine should be able to rev a bit more to go with the low-end torque). The engine is mostly stock--except for aftermarket air and oil filters and Pertronix ignition--and has about 80K miles on a rebuild. Cylinders were bored 0.030" over from an earlier rebuild. The cam is the mildest of 5 grinds offered by Crower; slightly lopey at idle but generally smooth and responsive (about 252deg overlap at 0.050"). I have a Lempert 3.54 rearend installed, which of course has a significant impact. The exhaust is made of Ansa pipes with newer glasspacks stitched in--I believe it flows reasonably well. Anyway, I'm starting to think about the next rebuild and wondering what might address this issue. I know headers, Webers, etc. would address breathing issues, but I want to keep stock intake and exhaust. What would help this engine's apparent emphysema; more radical cam, Al head, shorter exhaust system, lightened flywheel, higher CR, ...? I don't want to build a racer, just want to address the wheezing at higher RPMs. IOW, I'm willing to trade (a little) bottom end torque for a bit more top end. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jun 15 22:39:02 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:39:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? In-Reply-To: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DF988E6.4040205@comcast.net> On 6/15/2011 6:24 PM, Robert Blair wrote: > Hi Listers, The time has arrived for a new exhaust system on my BJ8. Banged > up rear boxes are holed/rusted thru - just age and bottoming out. > > Would like the List's collective experience. ... Have given this subject lots of time, thought, money and frustration. Even read a book called 'Scientific Design of Exhaust and Intake Systems' (if you ever have trouble sleeping ...). I'm currently running a system cobbled together from 20+-year-old Ansa pipes and generic glasspacks. The pipes--where they haven't been clobbered--are in perfect condition, but I rarely start the car unless I'm planning an hour or more of mostly highway driving. It's noisy--somewhere between a stock BJ8 system and a straight-piped Harley, but surprisingly quiet at highway speeds. I've wrapped the downpipes--which some claim will lead to their early demise--but the main casualty seems to be the front mufflers--I've had to replace them after only 15K miles or so. I believe most, if not all of the current aftermarket products are glasspacks and not baffled ('turbo') systems (the Ansa mufflers were glasspacks). The glass/steel wool will deteriorate over a few years; the extra-hot exhaust gas from my wrapped downpipes exacerbates the problem. Have heard--have no hard data--that the longer BJ8 system actually improves low-end torque (but may limit top-end HP). Something to do with natural resonances at certain engine speeds. When I get tired of welding new glasspacks in I will look for a good-quality mild steel system (I believe Walker brand has been recommended). Or, Moss has a new, polished SS system that has gotten good reviews for other LBCs (however, these are glasspacks and I suspect the packing will be gone before the metal goes). I would scuff the SS and coat black. This stuff works very well: http://www.designengineering.com/category/catalog/design-engineering-inc/exhaust-wraps-accessories/ht-silicone-coating It needs to be 'tempered' at 400degF--after applying I go over with a propane torch with spreader. Holds up better than any paint I've tried. Bob -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From austin.healey at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 00:05:33 2011 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:05:33 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Power In-Reply-To: References: <1530185042.1655129.1308157233313.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <0789E1CF-C555-431D-892B-91264ABA3758@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C81F22F-1879-4D51-AD0D-01BC901A45FA@gmail.com> Hi Bob. Let me expand on that. I don't think you are getting enough fuel at the carbs. Which could be due to a wrong/ faulty pump (me), crushed line (Rich) or blocked filter/gauze screen (Ira) - same result, not enough fuel. To check, disconnect your fuel line at the carbs, turn on the ignition & start pumping fuel into an appropriate container for a timed interval e.g. 1minute. If you have a e.g. Sprite or 100/4 type SU pump (usually rated at 7 or 8 imperial gallons per hour), you should have around half a litre of fuel in your container in one minute. If you have a late type BJ8 SU pump (usually rated at 12 - 15 imperial gallons/ hr, depending on model) you should have around 1 litre of fuel - under or over, depending on 12 or 15 gph - in your container in 1 minute. If you have a double ended SU pump (usually rated at 30 imp gallons/ hr) you should have over 2 litres of fuel in your container in one minute. In our tests, at full throttle, my Healey can consume over a litre of fuel per minute, and can run quite happily on one end of the double ended SU on the road (I.e. 15 imp gals/hr) Your mileage may vary..... Test your fuel delivery volume first. It's cheap & easy. And if the filters are clean, and the line isn't crushed, but you arent getting closer to a litre a minute, then maybe try upgrading your pump. Chris Sent from my iPhone On 16/06/2011, at 9:41 AM, I Erbs wrote: > I know it was said before, but check for dirty fuel filter of carb > screens if fited > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Chris Dimmock > wrote: > Hi Bob, > Check your fuel delivery volume. I.e. How much fuel your pump > delivers per minute. I had the same issue with a Sprite once. Turned > out to be a weak fuel pump..... > http://www.myaustinhealey.com/austin_healey_technical_articles.html > Best. > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 16/06/2011, at 3:00 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > I noticed on my most recent long road trip that my BJ8 seemed to be > running out of HP and/or torque on long uphill grades. I seem to get > to about 4K RPM then the engine won't rev any more (yes, I downshift > as required--it just seems the engine should be able to rev a bit more From jagxk120 at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 00:54:14 2011 From: jagxk120 at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:54:14 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Healey sighting on ebay ad In-Reply-To: References: <006301cc2b99$99c27370$cd475a50$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4DF9A896.6060504@gmail.com> I got the same one. The system is smart enough to notice your usual searchs. B Le 16/06/11 01:09, Eric (Rick) Wilkins a icrit : > > Was shopping on ebay and this ad showed up: > > http://ewilkins.com/wilko/pics/ebay_healey.png > > Wilko > San Diego > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jagxk120 at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jun 16 01:04:41 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:04:41 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? In-Reply-To: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DF9AB09.6090904@chello.nl> A mild steel exhaust system rusts from the inside to the outside. They are attacked by the acids and water that is produced during the combustion process. External corrosion hardly ever leads to failure, even in damp countries with salted roads in winter. So it is always better to get a stainless steel item, they are only a little more expensive. They also sound better. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jun 16 01:11:13 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:11:13 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? In-Reply-To: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DF9AC91.2020107@chello.nl> To prevent damage to the silencer boxes weld skid plate on them, triangular shaped plates with a curvature welded to the pipe at about 10" before the box and the front lower edge of the silencer box. This will prevent hat a box is knocked off. Some systems have them installed from new. Kees Oudesluijs [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 03:28:17 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:28:17 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? In-Reply-To: <4DF9AC91.2020107@chello.nl> References: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4DF9AC91.2020107@chello.nl> Message-ID: Kees, I have to disagree with you regarding the sound, although of course it all comes down to personal preferences. I have a stainless steel system on my present car and it doesn't sound as good as the mild steel one that I had on my previous Healey. The mild steel system was on the car for 14 years and there was nothing wrong with it when I sold the car. Derek On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > To prevent damage to the silencer boxes weld skid plate on them, > triangular shaped plates with a curvature welded to the pipe at about > 10" before the box and the front lower edge of the silencer box. This > will prevent hat a box is knocked off. > Some systems have them installed from new. > Kees Oudesluijs > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name > of coudesluijs.vcf] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jun 16 03:39:17 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:39:17 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? In-Reply-To: References: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4DF9AC91.2020107@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4DF9CF45.2080109@chello.nl> Derek, If you take a SS exhaust and a mild steel one of the same design!!, the SS exhaust has a deeper exhaust note. Mild steel sounds harsher. Has to do with the material damping/frequency properties. This is particular so with reflection exhausts. In straight through glass/SS-wool packs it will be less noticeable. Kees Oudesluijs [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From bighealey at charter.net Thu Jun 16 06:59:52 2011 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:59:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] parts In-Reply-To: <001601cc2b75$be652750$3b2f75f0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <4DF8D194.2020203@chello.nl> <001601cc2b75$be652750$3b2f75f0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <004701cc2c25$48a114b0$d9e33e10$@charter.net> Good day friends I purchased from this fellow before. He does that to keep people from reusing his photos. He is a straight shooter. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 9:03 AM To: 'Oudesluys' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] parts I saw the orange in all the pics and assumed that the vendor was a proud Dutch royalist, but it seems I'm mistaken. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Oudesluys Sent: 15 June 2011 16:37 To: 4 - Healeys Subject: [Healeys] parts Miscellaneous AH parts on ebay. http://shop.ebay.co.uk/zaceca/m.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39 %253A1%257C72%253A4908&rt=nc&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14.l1581&_pgn=2 Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From jcapezzuti at aol.com Thu Jun 16 07:44:04 2011 From: jcapezzuti at aol.com (Jeff Capezzuti) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:44:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] parts In-Reply-To: <004701cc2c25$48a114b0$d9e33e10$@charter.net> References: <4DF8D194.2020203@chello.nl> <001601cc2b75$be652750$3b2f75f0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> <004701cc2c25$48a114b0$d9e33e10$@charter.net> Message-ID: <2C97FF7C-0A5A-4B14-8092-E9FF5C3BA2C6@aol.com> For what it's worth I have met this seller in person as I used to live in the Atlanta area... Nice older gentleman who has a plethora of parts. I almost purchased a TR3 project from him. I would trust him entirely. Jeff Capezzuti (770) 313-4320 '63 BJ7 MKII Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2011, at 8:59 AM, "Tracy Drummond" wrote: > Good day friends > > I purchased from this fellow before. He does that to keep people from > reusing his photos. He is a straight shooter. > > Warm Regards, > > Tracy Drummond > > PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 > cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 9:03 AM > To: 'Oudesluys' > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] parts > > I saw the orange in all the pics and assumed that the vendor was a proud > Dutch royalist, but it seems I'm mistaken. > Simon > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Oudesluys > Sent: 15 June 2011 16:37 > To: 4 - Healeys > Subject: [Healeys] parts > > Miscellaneous AH parts on ebay. > > http://shop.ebay.co.uk/zaceca/m.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39 > %253A1%257C72%253A4908&rt=nc&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14.l1581&_pgn=2 > > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of > coudesluijs.vcf] _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jcapezzuti at aol.com From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Jun 16 08:42:12 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:42:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] parts In-Reply-To: <2C97FF7C-0A5A-4B14-8092-E9FF5C3BA2C6@aol.com> References: <4DF8D194.2020203@chello.nl> <001601cc2b75$be652750$3b2f75f0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> <004701cc2c25$48a114b0$d9e33e10$@charter.net> <2C97FF7C-0A5A-4B14-8092-E9FF5C3BA2C6@aol.com> Message-ID: <001401cc2c33$97217bd0$c5647370$@rr.com> The eBay seller's user name leads me to believe this is the gentleman who allowed me to come to his home in the Atlanta suburbs several years ago and collect all of the information of interest to the BJ8 registry from the many cars he had parked in his basement. He had a nice AC Aceca there. Also graciously provided copies of the BMIHT certificates for all of them. Very pleasant and accommodating guy. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Capezzuti Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:44 AM To: Tracy Drummond Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] parts For what it's worth I have met this seller in person as I used to live in the Atlanta area... Nice older gentleman who has a plethora of parts. I almost purchased a TR3 project from him. I would trust him entirely. Jeff Capezzuti (770) 313-4320 '63 BJ7 MKII Sent from my iPhone From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 16 09:11:09 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:11:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Long Shot In-Reply-To: <4B2FE28F29024BDBA071E8BE204E296D@lab092908> References: <1357424473.97881308163385033.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs14> <001101cc2bba$52ae2e40$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> <4B2FE28F29024BDBA071E8BE204E296D@lab092908> Message-ID: <421D6C8D-39D8-4EAC-B810-CB9881417BE3@sbcglobal.net> We have new ones in stock along with the muffler, either side or rear exit. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:20 PM, David Masucci wrote: > Hi All, > > I know it's a long shot but I figured it's worth asking. I'm > looking for a Denis Welch header (CEXS120) for a 6 cylinder Healey. > If anyone has one that is not being used I'm interested in > purchasing it. If not I"ll buy new. > > Thanks, > Dave > > 64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 16 10:21:36 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:21:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 Message-ID: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> Had a customer contact me today about this car. I have not seen the car but supposedly it is an original unrestored BN2 with only 750 original miles. Thats right I said 750 original miles. If this is correct the concorse committee is going to climb all over this one. http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- used-6878749.html David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . From RCT2BNC at aol.com Thu Jun 16 10:47:46 2011 From: RCT2BNC at aol.com (RCT2BNC at aol.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 Message-ID: Will we all have to turn our fender spears backwards now? Ben Cohen Tucson BN1 223395 In a message dated 6/16/2011 9:43:16 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, healeydoc at sbcglobal.net writes: Had a customer contact me today about this car. I have not seen the car but supposedly it is an original unrestored BN2 with only 750 original miles. Thats right I said 750 original miles. If this is correct the concorse committee is going to climb all over this one. http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- used-6878749.html David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rct2bnc at aol.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 10:54:50 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:54:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Will the tooth fairy or Santa be delivering the car? 750 miles???? My scam alert sensor is going off the hook. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 16, 2011 9:43 AM, "David Nock" wrote: > Had a customer contact me today about this car. I have not seen the > car but supposedly it is an original unrestored BN2 with only 750 > original miles. > > Thats right I said 750 original miles. > > If this is correct the concorse committee is going to climb all over > this one. > > > http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- > used-6878749.html > > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . > . > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Thu Jun 16 10:59:49 2011 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <224588.65724.qm@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Looking at the pictures I believe the chassis id plate is not original. To me the numbers stamped no dot correspond to the original typography and stamping method used on the original cars and from several pictures I have seen... I may be playing to be Sherlock Holmes... but the car seems to shinny to have only 750 miles, seems more like a recent complete restoration... very well done but recent.... my 2 cents Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: David Nock To: Healey List List Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 11:21:36 AM Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 Had a customer contact me today about this car. I have not seen the car but supposedly it is an original unrestored BN2 with only 750 original miles. Thats right I said 750 original miles. If this is correct the concorse committee is going to climb all over this one. http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- used-6878749.html David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From peter.svilans at rogers.com Thu Jun 16 11:25:49 2011 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:25:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] parts Message-ID: <5A999CF984CC4D2EB895041D8062808C@9535DEE118EC44B> I too visited his remarkable place over a dozen years ago. As you say, very nice fellow, but wary of people in general and protective (justifiably) of his amazing rambling property. I remember the Healeys crammed door handle to door handle in his house. I remember the tented semi-outdoor workshop area in which he had, among other things, a rare HRG on the go. I remember the rows and rows of British cars parked neatly out back in the woods under lean-to shelters, most painted with a heavy tar / asphalt preservative substance. Wonderful place, but you knew most of these cars would never wake from their slumber. best Peter From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jun 16 11:28:51 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:28:51 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4DFA3D53.7050506@chello.nl> It may be unrestored but it certainly has been repainted, detailed and a lot of other work has been done as well (rewire?). Even a brand new car would not be that tidy. Still, if the car is genuine it is a very nice specimen. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From Healey100M at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 11:32:17 2011 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:32:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <55F1DFB9-1636-46A9-9D2F-99B275351A5F@gmail.com> If this car actually had 750 miles on it, someone ruined it when they "restored". "concorse" committee will laugh and stomp all over it. Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M White/Black '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (for sale) (really got to sell it now!) '62 BN7 MkII with factory hardtop '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Jun 16, 2011, at 12:21 PM, David Nock wrote: > Had a customer contact me today about this car. I have not seen the > car but supposedly it is an original unrestored BN2 with only 750 > original miles. > > Thats right I said 750 original miles. > > If this is correct the concorse committee is going to climb all over > this one. > > > http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- > used-6878749.html > > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . > . > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at gmail.com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 11:35:32 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:35:32 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <224588.65724.qm@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> <224588.65724.qm@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 'Skip added the red panel' - well why did he do that? It's not an original colour scheme. Strangely enough when I was at the 2000 Conclave in Indianapolis, I was watching the loading of the black 100M that won Gold in the concours and somebody in the group that was there at that time mentioned a 100 that had been stored in a living room since new. I cant remember who it was that first said it, it might have been the trucker, they specialised in Classic transportation. I'm pretty sure Rich was there as well. maybe he can recall that story as well. Just maybe it is true, and this is the car. Derek On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Josi Vicente Vargas wrote: > Looking at the pictures I believe the chassis id plate is not original. To > me > the numbers stamped no dot correspond to the original typography and > stamping > method used on the original cars and from several pictures I have seen... > > I > may be playing to be Sherlock Holmes... but the car seems to shinny to have > only 750 miles, seems more like a recent complete restoration... very well > done > but recent.... > > my 2 cents > Josi Vicente Vargas > Musmi > > > Tel. (571) 321 > 3740 > Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 > Skype: jovivago > > > www.musme.net > > > Bogota, Colombia > ________________________________ > From: David Nock > To: Healey List List > Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 > 11:21:36 AM > Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 > > Had a customer contact > me today about this car. I have not seen the > car but supposedly it is an > original unrestored BN2 with only 750 > original miles. > > Thats right I said > 750 original miles. > > If this is correct the concorse committee is going to > climb all over > this one. > http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- > used-6878749.html > > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . > . > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 11:50:42 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <224588.65724.qm@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1403811593.1707424.1308246642338.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I thought the coolant hose clamps on a BN2 were the band type--forget the proper name (Robbins?)--not the wire type. The engine paint is awful glossy. I've never seen a BN2 with the copper fuel lines chromed (but, hey, doesn't mean they weren't). Weren't the brake drums dull silver? Also, I thought the lip on the bottom of the rear shroud was hand-painted a flat black. I would expect some corrosion on bare metal parts regardless of how well the car was stored. Not picking on this car--we're restoring a BN2 (100M) and want to get as correct as possible. bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Looking at the pictures I believe the chassis id plate is not original. To me the numbers stamped no dot correspond to the original typography and stamping method used on the original cars and from several pictures I have seen... I may be playing to be Sherlock Holmes... but the car seems to shinny to have only 750 miles, seems more like a recent complete restoration... very well done but recent.... my 2 cents Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ Had a customer contact me today about this car. I have not seen the car but supposedly it is an original unrestored BN2 with only 750 original miles. Thats right I said 750 original miles. If this is correct the concorse committee is going to climb all over this one. http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- used-6878749.html David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net From jcapezzuti at aol.com Thu Jun 16 11:54:59 2011 From: jcapezzuti at aol.com (Jeff Capezzuti) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:54:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] parts In-Reply-To: <5A999CF984CC4D2EB895041D8062808C@9535DEE118EC44B> References: <5A999CF984CC4D2EB895041D8062808C@9535DEE118EC44B> Message-ID: <576AAFC2420B419BAFF04ED5C03B7B12@PC130022056027> I know.... it was SOO Painful to see them sit there. You're correct too...... very wary of people in general......... All of those cars sitting under cover and in a permanent cosmoline blanket. Lotus, Healey's, Jags, MG, Triumphs, etc...... just an ABSOLUTE shame..... I actually spent quite a lot of time with him and we enjoyed his company. He actually took me inside of his home and showed me his "good" collection in the basement! WHOA!!! :) He even let me take pictures! MG, BRISTOL, Healey, Jaguar....... I asked if he minded if I came back sometime and brought my father - he said sure. Then I moved to Florida......... -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Svilans Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:26 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] parts I too visited his remarkable place over a dozen years ago. As you say, very nice fellow, but wary of people in general and protective (justifiably) of his amazing rambling property. I remember the Healeys crammed door handle to door handle in his house. I remember the tented semi-outdoor workshop area in which he had, among other things, a rare HRG on the go. I remember the rows and rows of British cars parked neatly out back in the woods under lean-to shelters, most painted with a heavy tar / asphalt preservative substance. Wonderful place, but you knew most of these cars would never wake from their slumber. best Peter _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jcapezzuti at aol.com From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Jun 16 13:04:31 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:04:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] parts In-Reply-To: <576AAFC2420B419BAFF04ED5C03B7B12@PC130022056027> References: <5A999CF984CC4D2EB895041D8062808C@9535DEE118EC44B> <576AAFC2420B419BAFF04ED5C03B7B12@PC130022056027> Message-ID: <000e01cc2c58$3956b630$ac042290$@rr.com> He has sold a few of his BJ8s since I saw them. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Capezzuti Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:55 PM To: 'Peter Svilans'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] parts I know.... it was SOO Painful to see them sit there. You're correct too...... very wary of people in general......... All of those cars sitting under cover and in a permanent cosmoline blanket. Lotus, Healey's, Jags, MG, Triumphs, etc...... just an ABSOLUTE shame..... I actually spent quite a lot of time with him and we enjoyed his company. He actually took me inside of his home and showed me his "good" collection in the basement! WHOA!!! :) He even let me take pictures! MG, BRISTOL, Healey, Jaguar....... I asked if he minded if I came back sometime and brought my father - he said sure. Then I moved to Florida......... From rnbmail at yahoo.com Thu Jun 16 13:19:08 2011 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <123951.92322.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Alan, Thx for the thoughtful answers......as you ususally provide to the List. R. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com --- On Wed, 6/15/11, Alan Seigrist wrote: From: Alan Seigrist Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? To: "Robert Blair" Cc: "Healey List" Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 8:36 PM 1. I am not interested in SS system - unecessary expese here in dry CA. The purpose of SS has nothing to do with whether you are in a dry or wet climate. Water is a natural byproduct of combustion, and when your exhaust system cools down, water will always pool into the bottom of your muffler/silencer. That's why mufflers usually go bad at the bottom of the muffler at the seam. In a Healey this area is under even more stress due to the regular touching of the bottom of the muffler, at the end cap seam, with pavement. Any mild steel system will probably last around 30K miles before holes start appearing. If you are ok with that and welding them up as they appear, then go with mild steel. That being said this issue with mild steel gives you a MUCH bigger chance of having a broken silencer baffle in the near future, which sounds like hell and can't be fixed unless replaced. I favor SS because of this rust-baffle problem. 2. So steel is fine for me. I will probably paint it black anyway. ok. 3. We all know the low ground clearance issue on the Healey/BJ8 rear boxes - and my rear is lowered 2 inches for appearance - plan to leave it as such. The rear boxes are usually fine if the BJ8 suspension is stock and in good shape. If you have lowered your car, I would get rid of these resonators, although in my opinion I like the sound of them. Quiet but sporty. 4. If I use a full BJ8 system with rear boxes, which manufacturer would you recommend and why? Where is good price incl delivery to N. CA? [I currently have a Walker brand I think] I would just go with whatever David Nock at BCS has. They will be able to ground ship, and BCS is generally good about vetting for quality. 5. If I use a front part BJ8 system and replace the rear cross boxes with 2 straight pipes out the back/LHS, how much will the noise increase. Likeable or too noisy for easy driving? Fruity is ok for me. Some people swear by this set up, that it sounds very cool. It will be louder, however. People on this list seem to think this sounds better than the stock BJ7 unit. Also note the out pipes are bigger on the BJ8, so you will have slightly better HP with the BJ8 silencers. 6. The Moss BJ7 system has an oval/thinner double pipe front box and no rear boxes. Obviously better on ground clearance at mid and rear of car. Has anyone put a BJ7 system on a BJ8 - did you like it and why? What were the fitting problems? BJ7 system is much cheaper then BJ8. BJ7 Advantages - lighter and easier to fit. BJ8 Advantages - more HP, sounds a bit better and with separate silencers for cyl 1-3 and 4-6, gives you much better ability to diagnose engine running problems. 7. Any other suggestions - smart or otherwise? I'd say go for the BJ8 w/ straightpipes... although I am partial to having all four silencers on my BJ8. Alan From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 16 13:51:51 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:51:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <980BC624-EC6D-4243-BE99-4C1CC9425C48@sbcglobal.net> I understand that it is a shame that they restored this car if the mileage is truely only 750 miles. It would have been really nice to see the car prior to all the restoration work that was done to it. But in any case it the mileage is correct then the story behind the car is amazing. I know of a car here in Stockton. A BN1 that has less that 2,500 original miles on and has not been restored David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:21 AM, David Nock wrote: > Had a customer contact me today about this car. I have not seen the > car but supposedly it is an original unrestored BN2 with only 750 > original miles. > > Thats right I said 750 original miles. > > If this is correct the concorse committee is going to climb all over > this one. > > > http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- > used-6878749.html > > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . > . > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 16 14:09:54 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:09:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? In-Reply-To: <123951.92322.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <123951.92322.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7538A5C1-03B7-4E74-BB0F-16438E479D89@sbcglobal.net> The best fitting system is the Bell Stainless Steel system. We have installed several and they fit great. I also have some NOS original never installed BJ8 front mufflers. As well as a good used ANSA system off a BJ8 David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 16, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Robert Blair wrote: > Alan, Thx for the thoughtful answers......as you ususally provide > to the > List. R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert N. Blair > Yellow 65BJ8 > RNBmail at yahoo.com > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/15/11, Alan Seigrist wrote: > > > From: Alan Seigrist > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? > To: "Robert Blair" > Cc: "Healey List" > Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 8:36 PM > > > 1. I am not interested in SS system - unecessary expese here in > dry CA. > > > The purpose of SS has nothing to do with whether you are in a dry > or wet > climate. Water is a natural byproduct of combustion, and when your > exhaust > system cools down, water will always pool into the bottom of your > muffler/silencer. That's why mufflers usually go bad at the bottom > of the > muffler at the seam. In a Healey this area is under even more > stress due to > the regular touching of the bottom of the muffler, at the end cap > seam, with > pavement. Any mild steel system will probably last around 30K > miles before > holes start appearing. If you are ok with that and welding them up > as they > appear, then go with mild steel. > > > That being said this issue with mild steel gives you a MUCH bigger > chance of > having a broken silencer baffle in the near future, which sounds > like hell and > can't be fixed unless replaced. I favor SS because of this rust- > baffle > problem. > > > 2. So steel is fine for me. I will probably paint it black anyway. > > > ok. > > 3. We all know the low ground clearance issue on the Healey/BJ8 > rear boxes - > and my rear is lowered 2 inches for appearance - plan to leave it > as such. > > > The rear boxes are usually fine if the BJ8 suspension is stock and > in good > shape. If you have lowered your car, I would get rid of these > resonators, > although in my opinion I like the sound of them. Quiet but sporty. > > 4. If I use a full BJ8 system with rear boxes, which manufacturer > would you > recommend and why? Where is good price incl delivery to N. CA? [I > currently > have a Walker brand I think] > > > I would just go with whatever David Nock at BCS has. They will be > able to > ground ship, and BCS is generally good about vetting for quality. > > 5. If I use a front part BJ8 system and replace the rear cross > boxes with 2 > straight pipes out the back/LHS, how much will the noise increase. > Likeable > or too noisy for easy driving? Fruity is ok for me. > > > Some people swear by this set up, that it sounds very cool. It > will be > louder, however. People on this list seem to think this sounds > better than > the stock BJ7 unit. Also note the out pipes are bigger on the BJ8, > so you > will have slightly better HP with the BJ8 silencers. > > 6. The Moss BJ7 system has an oval/thinner double pipe front box > and no rear > boxes. Obviously better on ground clearance at mid and rear of > car. Has > anyone put a BJ7 system on a BJ8 - did you like it and why? What > were the > fitting problems? BJ7 system is much cheaper then BJ8. > > > BJ7 Advantages - lighter and easier to fit. > BJ8 Advantages - more HP, sounds a bit better and with separate > silencers for > cyl 1-3 and 4-6, gives you much better ability to diagnose engine > running > problems. > > 7. Any other suggestions - smart or otherwise? > > > I'd say go for the BJ8 w/ straightpipes... although I am partial to > having all > four silencers on my BJ8. > > > Alan > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 16 14:35:12 2011 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:35:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Transmission parts and fixes Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20110616132758.020f0260@pop.att.yahoo.com> I would like to make the 1962 transmission shift smoother and I am not interested in putting in a Smitty. I have opened it up and the gears look good however there are some issues with two of the shifter forks. The shoulders of 3rd - 4th fork, where the selector shaft pulls, are very rounded. The 1st - 2nd fork, in the same area, is worn about 3/32" on one side and possible 1/16" on the other side. I don't believe they are bent. The 3rd - 4th fork is $279 and the other one does not appear to be available. Can these be braised and machined? Is it something, if fixed, that will improve the shifting? I plan on replacing the syncros but is there anything else that should be done to make the transmission less stiff like checking the tolerances on the fork shafts and hard chroming them? Suggestions appreciated! Thank you, John Spaur '62 BT7 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Jun 16 15:12:34 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:12:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <1403811593.1707424.1308246642338.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <224588.65724.qm@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1403811593.1707424.1308246642338.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <005a01cc2c6a$1cc638d0$5652aa70$@net> Hello all, I must agree with the observations you've all been making. Somebody obviously over restored and candied up this car. They must have shopped for things out of a catalogue and not known correct from "it'll do". There are so many incorrect things throughout this car. The party who decided a 750 mile BN2 should be restored like this should be shot and Pi**ed on. Who would toss an original interior? Who knows, maybe the poor thing was in a fire or something and had to be restored. However, I have the numbers for this car in the Hundred Registry and it substantiates the low mileage of a car with this chassis number over a few owners. As recently as April of 2008 it was registered with 556 original miles and was at the time still single colour OEW. What happened since then? Rich From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Jun 16 15:13:49 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:13:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <1403811593.1707424.1308246642338.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <224588.65724.qm@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1403811593.1707424.1308246642338.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <005b01cc2c6a$491fad30$db5f0790$@net> Whatever you all do, do NOT go by details on this car. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: 2011-06-16 1:51 To: Josi Vicente Vargas Cc: Healey List List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 I thought the coolant hose clamps on a BN2 were the band type--forget the proper name (Robbins?)--not the wire type. The engine paint is awful glossy. I've never seen a BN2 with the copper fuel lines chromed (but, hey, doesn't mean they weren't). Weren't the brake drums dull silver? Also, I thought the lip on the bottom of the rear shroud was hand-painted a flat black. I would expect some corrosion on bare metal parts regardless of how well the car was stored. Not picking on this car--we're restoring a BN2 (100M) and want to get as correct as possible. bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Looking at the pictures I believe the chassis id plate is not original. To me the numbers stamped no dot correspond to the original typography and stamping method used on the original cars and from several pictures I have seen... I may be playing to be Sherlock Holmes... but the car seems to shinny to have only 750 miles, seems more like a recent complete restoration... very well done but recent.... my 2 cents Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ Had a customer contact me today about this car. I have not seen the car but supposedly it is an original unrestored BN2 with only 750 original miles. Thats right I said 750 original miles. If this is correct the concorse committee is going to climb all over this one. http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- used-6878749.html David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Jun 16 15:16:05 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:16:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 Message-ID: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> Hello all, I must agree with the observations you've all been making. Somebody obviously over restored and candied up this car. They must have shopped for things out of a catalogue and not known correct from "it'll do". There are so many incorrect things throughout this car. The party who decided a 750 mile BN2 should be restored like this should be shot and Pi**ed on. Who would toss an original interior? Who knows, maybe the poor thing was in a fire or something and had to be restored. However, I have the numbers for this car in the Hundred Registry and it substantiates the low mileage of a car with this chassis number over a few owners. As recently as April of 2008 it was registered with 556 original miles and was at the time still single colour OEW. What happened since then? Rich From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Jun 16 15:17:21 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:17:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Check out 1956 Used Austin Healey 100-4 BN2 at Canepa Design Serving Scotts V Message-ID: <006601cc2c6a$c7883610$5698a230$@net> Imagine what it could go for if we go hold of it and detailed it correctly? Rich From: Editorgary at aol.com [mailto:Editorgary at aol.com] Sent: 2011-06-16 4:41 To: cnaarndt at gmail.com; MBran89793 at aol.com Cc: richchrysler at quickclic.net; editor at healeyclub.org; rmoment at comcast.net; hklacy at verizon.net; peter.silvans at rogers.net; healey at communitynet.org; Editorgary at aol.com; carolhodgman at gmail.com Subject: Re: Check out 1956 Used Austin Healey 100-4 BN2 at Canepa Design Serving Scotts V In a message dated 6/16/11 12:24:57 PM, cnaarndt at gmail.com writes: To me this looks like a compete restoration, and not a very correct one at that. Wonder why they didn't just claim it as a complete restoration, which is clearly what it is. My guess is even with that statement and none of the lengthy provenance, this car would go $60,000 to $75,000 at auction. G. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 15:25:10 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:25:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <980BC624-EC6D-4243-BE99-4C1CC9425C48@sbcglobal.net> References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> <980BC624-EC6D-4243-BE99-4C1CC9425C48@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Listers, The Concours Committee is already on this and needless to say it's a huge disappointment. I have seen the car on the website, sent the information to the rest of the Concours Committee, talked to Bruce Canepa, the owner and seller, and in my expert opinion the car is BS. It very well have been an original 750 mile car, but whoever TOTALLY restored it destroyed all of that originality. The big item that doesn't pass the smell test is the reproduction VIN tag. For $115K there are better cars out there as far as condition/originality and value. Cheers, Curt On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:51 PM, David Nock wrote: > I understand that it is a shame that they restored this car if the > mileage is truely only 750 miles. It would have been really nice to > see the car prior to all the restoration work that was done to it. > But in any case it the mileage is correct then the story behind the > car is amazing. > > I know of a car here in Stockton. A BN1 that has less that 2,500 > original miles on and has not been restored > > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . > . > > On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:21 AM, David Nock wrote: > > > Had a customer contact me today about this car. I have not seen the > > car but supposedly it is an original unrestored BN2 with only 750 > > original miles. > > > > Thats right I said 750 original miles. > > > > If this is correct the concorse committee is going to climb all over > > this one. > > > > > > http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- > > used-6878749.html > > > > > > > > > > David Nock > > British Car Specialists > > Stockton Ca 95205 > > 209-948-8767 > > > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > . > > . > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 15:56:18 2011 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:56:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <224588.65724.qm@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> <224588.65724.qm@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I believe the car was fully restored. clearly it is of a higher finish than uit came from the factory. ron On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Josi Vicente Vargas wrote: > > Looking at the pictures I believe the chassis id plate is not original. To me > the numbers stamped no dot correspond to the original typography and stamping > method used on the original cars and from several pictures I have seen... > > I > may be playing to be Sherlock Holmes... but the car seems to shinny to have > only 750 miles, seems more like a recent complete restoration... very well > done > but recent.... > > my 2 cents > Josi Vicente Vargas > Musmi > > > Tel. (571) 321 > 3740 > Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 > Skype: jovivago > > > www.musme.net > > > Bogota, Colombia > ________________________________ > From: David Nock > To: Healey List List > Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 > 11:21:36 AM > Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 > > Had a customer contact > me today about this car. I have not seen the > car but supposedly it is an > original unrestored BN2 with only 750 > original miles. > > Thats right I said > 750 original miles. > > If this is correct the concorse committee is going to > climb all over > this one. > http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- > used-6878749.html > > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . > . > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/f.ronald.rader at gmail.com From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 16 16:15:58 2011 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:15:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 750 mile car Message-ID: A fellow club member (AHSTC) has a 13,000 mile/ unrestored 3000 for sale. A really cool car. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 16:48:07 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:48:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> Message-ID: Listers, Lets have some fun with this pig... I propose a contest wherein anyone interested, submits a list to me of what is incorrect with this car as if it were being judged in Concours. Then, myself and fellow 100 experts on the Concours Committee (Roger Moment, Rich Chrysler, Kent Lacy, Sean Johnson and John Hodgman) will see who has found the most deductions and score it accordingly. Lowest score wins. Deadline is one week from today. I'll start it out with the chrome fender(wing) spears being on backwards, that's too easy. BTW if anyone wants to see a real 18K original mile survivor, check out this BN1. I know the owner since my BN1 is exactly 100 chassis numbers older than this car. http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/124-Austin-Healey-100/4%20Roadster-Inline%204%20Cyl Cheers, Curt PS To answer Riches comment, No it did not need to be repainted or restored (according to the current owner.) On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > Hello all, > > I must agree with the observations you've all been making. Somebody > obviously over restored and candied up this car. They must have shopped for > things out of a catalogue and not known correct from "it'll do". There are > so many incorrect things throughout this car. The party who decided a 750 > mile BN2 should be restored like this should be shot and Pi**ed on. Who > would toss an original interior? > > Who knows, maybe the poor thing was in a fire or something and had to be > restored. > > However, I have the numbers for this car in the Hundred Registry and it > substantiates the low mileage of a car with this chassis number over a few > owners. As recently as April of 2008 it was registered with 556 original > miles and was at the time still single colour OEW. > > What happened since then? > > Rich From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 16 16:53:52 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:53:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> Message-ID: <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> So it was restored. Why is it that the only way to restore a car is as it was 50 years ago. There are so many things that you can do to these cars today that will make them a much better car to drive. No i do not think that you should go away from the idea of the Healey but if it can be made better why not do it. I do not understand why a guy that restores a car beyond what it was and may make a few mistakes in installing a part here and there has to be bashed by everyone on this list. You can go thru every one of the cars that any of the Healey Restoration Shops do and you will find things that are no original. We have been doing some cars with Wilton Wool carpeting, and complete Connley leather interiors, to include all the panels in leather. The reason I have done this is that the owner wanted it that way. How often have you tried to match leather and vinyl colors, they never do. I have added cruise control, lightened flywheels, limited slip, oversized sway bars, tube shock conversions, along with many more. Are these any less of a car than the one that is like it rolled out of the factory. If you want to try a interesting test, look back to one of Gary Andersons early copies of British Car Magazine. We did an article on driving the different Healey's. There was one of each model from a factory 100M, Gary's Concourse BN7, My Modified BN4 and Len Hartnett's BJ8. We drove about 100 miles swappping cars along the way. A very interesting article look it up David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 16, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > Hello all, > > I must agree with the observations you've all been making. Somebody > obviously over restored and candied up this car. They must have > shopped for > things out of a catalogue and not known correct from "it'll do". > There are > so many incorrect things throughout this car. The party who decided > a 750 > mile BN2 should be restored like this should be shot and Pi**ed on. > Who > would toss an original interior? > > Who knows, maybe the poor thing was in a fire or something and had > to be > restored. > > However, I have the numbers for this car in the Hundred Registry > and it > substantiates the low mileage of a car with this chassis number > over a few > owners. As recently as April of 2008 it was registered with 556 > original > miles and was at the time still single colour OEW. > > What happened since then? > > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From cynicbass at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 17:01:10 2011 From: cynicbass at gmail.com (Richard Korn) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:01:10 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> <224588.65724.qm@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <04797C71-A597-45F4-BA21-E591B4571545@gmail.com> Sort of like taking the Stradavarius "Messiah" violin and refinishing it with new lacquer and using carbon fiber fittings! Richard BN2 with 16000 miles and rather unattractive original paint. Sent from Ricky's iPad On Jun 16, 2011, at 21:56, F Ronald Rader wrote: > I believe the car was fully restored. > clearly it is of a higher finish than uit came from the factory. > ron > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Josi Vicente Vargas > wrote: >> >> Looking at the pictures I believe the chassis id plate is not original. To > me >> the numbers stamped no dot correspond to the original typography and > stamping >> method used on the original cars and from several pictures I have seen... >> >> I >> may be playing to be Sherlock Holmes... but the car seems to shinny to have >> only 750 miles, seems more like a recent complete restoration... very well >> done >> but recent.... >> >> my 2 cents >> Josi Vicente Vargas >> Musmi >> >> >> Tel. (571) 321 >> 3740 >> Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 >> Skype: jovivago >> >> >> www.musme.net >> >> >> Bogota, Colombia >> ________________________________ >> From: David Nock >> To: Healey List List >> Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 >> 11:21:36 AM >> Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 >> >> Had a customer contact >> me today about this car. I have not seen the >> car but supposedly it is an >> original unrestored BN2 with only 750 >> original miles. >> >> Thats right I said >> 750 original miles. >> >> If this is correct the concorse committee is going to >> climb all over >> this one. >> http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- >> used-6878749.html >> >> >> >> >> David Nock >> British Car Specialists >> Stockton Ca 95205 >> 209-948-8767 >> >> www.britishcarspecialists.com >> . >> . >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/f.ronald.rader at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cynicbass at gmail.com From Healey100M at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 18:00:46 2011 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:00:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <8AF7A257-23CB-4174-8BF0-E21CF8EA536B@gmail.com> I think this goes way beyond that on several fronts. Randy On Jun 16, 2011, at 6:53 PM, David Nock wrote: > and may make a few mistakes in installing a part here and there has > to be bashed by everyone on this list From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 16 18:10:15 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:10:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> Message-ID: I do not think they are claiming that the car is original CONCOUSE as per the guidelines. And if you are wanting to do this then how about the Kurt Tanner car that went to Scottsdale a couple of years ago that was never a Gold Beige Car. I sold him the wrecked chassis that started life as a BRG BJ8 and ended up a $135,000 Gold Beige BJ8. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 16, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Listers, > > Lets have some fun with this pig... I propose a contest wherein anyone > interested, submits a list to me of what is incorrect with this car > as if it > were being judged in Concours. > > Then, myself and fellow 100 experts on the Concours Committee > (Roger Moment, > Rich Chrysler, Kent Lacy, Sean Johnson and John Hodgman) will see > who has > found the most deductions and score it accordingly. Lowest score > wins. > > Deadline is one week from today. I'll start it out with the chrome > fender(wing) spears being on backwards, that's too easy. > > BTW if anyone wants to see a real 18K original mile survivor, check > out this > BN1. I know the owner since my BN1 is exactly 100 chassis numbers > older > than this car. > > http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/124-Austin-Healey-100/4% > 20Roadster-Inline%204%20Cyl > > Cheers, > > Curt > > PS To answer Riches comment, No it did not need to be repainted or > restored > (according to the current owner.) > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Rich Chrysler > wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I must agree with the observations you've all been making. Somebody >> obviously over restored and candied up this car. They must have >> shopped for >> things out of a catalogue and not known correct from "it'll do". >> There are >> so many incorrect things throughout this car. The party who >> decided a 750 >> mile BN2 should be restored like this should be shot and Pi**ed >> on. Who >> would toss an original interior? >> >> Who knows, maybe the poor thing was in a fire or something and had >> to be >> restored. >> >> However, I have the numbers for this car in the Hundred Registry >> and it >> substantiates the low mileage of a car with this chassis number >> over a few >> owners. As recently as April of 2008 it was registered with 556 >> original >> miles and was at the time still single colour OEW. >> >> What happened since then? >> >> Rich > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From rwil at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 16 18:20:40 2011 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:20:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <087lv6p0m0hvijar0ke4i2ml3n08em3ftm@4ax.com> I think the issue is that this car _was_ a 750-mile original car. There are not many such examples of how our cars were made. There are thousands of Austin-Healeys of the various models surviving today. Repainting one of them, "restoring" or "upgrading" most of them is not a loss to the Healey community. But discarding the interior and repainting a 750 mile car is, in my opinion, a loss. -Roland On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:53:52 -0700, you wrote: ::So it was restored. Why is it that the only way to restore a car is ::as it was 50 years ago. There are so many things that you can do to ::these cars today that will make them a much better car to drive. No i ::do not think that you should go away from the idea of the Healey but ::if it can be made better why not do it. From ktee20 at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 18:21:23 2011 From: ktee20 at gmail.com (keith taylor) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:21:23 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] HELP Fuel & Sender issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have an assortment of Fuel Gauges & senders none of which appear compatible with each other I have looked at the " MG with attitude " site but resistance values do not match up, Car is a BN2 Q. 1 Anyone know the Sender ohms Full & Empty Q 2 What should I read between B & S & Earth on the gauge Any input would be appreciated Keith Taylor WAMBERAL OZ From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 16 18:14:34 2011 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:14:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20110616171125.02093c50@pop.att.yahoo.com> Agreed! There is nothing wrong with concours and nothing wrong about restoring a car the way one wants to be! John Spaur '62 BT7 - painted Aston Martin almond pearl green with a tan interior At 03:53 PM 6/16/2011 -0700, you wrote: >So it was restored. Why is it that the only way to restore a car is >as it was 50 years ago. There are so many things that you can do to >these cars today that will make them a much better car to drive.... > >David Nock >British Car Specialists From jule_enterprisesah at yahoo.com Thu Jun 16 18:38:31 2011 From: jule_enterprisesah at yahoo.com (Martin Jansen) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <957447.1970.qm@web121811.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> David , I agree with you. It is his car to restore the way he wants.The owner was not asking for a critique from this forum. He is not saying it is concours. I find the responses cruel and childish. It is this type of behaviour which stops people from joining the Austin Healey club and from buying Healeys. I do not know why people find it necessary to be so critical and mean. I find it shameful behaviour. Perhaps people should remember if you don't have anything nice to say than you shouldn't say anything. Happy Healeying, Marty www.jule-enterprises.com From rpschauss at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 18:39:06 2011 From: rpschauss at gmail.com (Peter Schauss) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:39:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Transmission parts and fixes In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20110616132758.020f0260@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4dfaa229.505c340a.1abe.3a34@mx.google.com> John, This may not apply to your gearbox, but I found that the linkage on mine was much smoother after I replaced the bushing at the bottom end of the shift lever. I am still using the original shift forks. HTH, Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john spaur > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:35 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Transmission parts and fixes > > I would like to make the 1962 transmission shift smoother and I am > not interested in putting in a Smitty. > > I have opened it up and the gears look good however there are some > issues with two of the shifter forks. The shoulders of 3rd - 4th > fork, where the selector shaft pulls, are very rounded. The 1st - 2nd > fork, in the same area, is worn about 3/32" on one side and possible > 1/16" on the other side. I don't believe they are bent. > > The 3rd - 4th fork is $279 and the other one does not appear to be > available. Can these be braised and machined? Is it something, if > fixed, that will improve the shifting? I plan on replacing the > syncros but is there anything else that should be done to make the > transmission less stiff like checking the tolerances on the fork > shafts and hard chroming them? > > Suggestions appreciated! > > Thank you, > John Spaur > '62 BT7 From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 18:42:56 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:42:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4DFAA310.2060902@comcast.net> David, The problem I have--and I suspect others do too--is that this car is not presented as having been (lavishly over-) restored. All I saw was mention of a few mechanical fixes, and the red coves being added. Why was an obviously expensive restoration not mentioned? Because the car could possibly fetch more money as a pristine original, presumably sold to someone not truly versed in Healey provenance? IMO, this borders on misrepresentation--this seller is not naive. Bob On 6/16/2011 3:53 PM, David Nock wrote: > So it was restored. Why is it that the only way to restore a car is > as it was 50 years ago. There are so many things that you can do to > these cars today that will make them a much better car to drive. No i > do not think that you should go away from the idea of the Healey but > if it can be made better why not do it. > > I do not understand why a guy that restores a car beyond what it was > and may make a few mistakes in installing a part here and there has > to be bashed by everyone on this list. You can go thru every one of > the cars that any of the Healey Restoration Shops do and you will > find things that are no original. > > We have been doing some cars with Wilton Wool carpeting, and complete > Connley leather interiors, to include all the panels in leather. The > reason I have done this is that the owner wanted it that way. How > often have you tried to match leather and vinyl colors, they never > do. I have added cruise control, lightened flywheels, limited slip, > oversized sway bars, tube shock conversions, along with many more. > Are these any less of a car than the one that is like it rolled out > of the factory. > > If you want to try a interesting test, look back to one of Gary > Andersons early copies of British Car Magazine. We did an article on > driving the different Healey's. There was one of each model from a > factory 100M, Gary's Concourse BN7, My Modified BN4 and Len > Hartnett's BJ8. We drove about 100 miles swappping cars along the > way. A very interesting article look it up > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 18:53:49 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:53:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> <980BC624-EC6D-4243-BE99-4C1CC9425C48@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4DFAA59D.1010503@comcast.net> Given the banged-up ex-racer 100M that a guy bought (scammed?) from a widow in Pleasanton that was sold/shipped to England and appeared to sell for over $100K 'over there' this car might have fetched more than $115K if left in the original condition, without the expense of the restoration. Oh, the irony ... Bob On 6/16/2011 2:25 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Listers, > > The Concours Committee is already on this and needless to say it's a huge > disappointment. > > I have seen the car on the website, sent the information to the rest of the > Concours Committee, talked to Bruce Canepa, the owner and seller, and in my > expert opinion the car is BS. > > It very well have been an original 750 mile car, but whoever TOTALLY > restored it destroyed all of that originality. > > The big item that doesn't pass the smell test is the reproduction VIN tag. > > For $115K there are better cars out there as far as condition/originality > and value. > > Cheers, > > Curt -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Thu Jun 16 19:18:52 2011 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:18:52 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?750_miles?= Message-ID: <20110617011852.15245.qmail@server278.com> who know how long they drove it with the speedo disconnected. i drove for years without one. these low mileage car discoveries have been going around for years and most are bogus. hjim From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 20:02:15 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:02:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <957447.1970.qm@web121811.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <957447.1970.qm@web121811.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DFAB5A7.2020000@comcast.net> re: "Perhaps people should remember if you don't have anything nice to say than you shouldn't say anything." That's rich, coming from the guy who all but called Healeys not re-framed with a Jule frame death traps (and their owner/drivers irresponsible miscreants). Perhaps you should say 'If you don't have anything nice to say, or you can't make money off it, then you shouldn't say anything.' Bob On 6/16/2011 5:38 PM, Martin Jansen wrote: > David , I agree with you. It is his car to restore the way he wants.The owner > was not asking for a critique from this forum. He is not saying it is > concours. > I find the responses cruel and childish. It is this type of behaviour which > stops people from joining the Austin Healey club and from buying Healeys. > I do not know why people find it necessary to be so critical and mean. I find > it shameful behaviour. > Perhaps people should remember if you don't have anything nice to say than you > shouldn't say anything. > > > Happy Healeying, Marty www.jule-enterprises.com > _______________________________________________ > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From mikljmal at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 20:16:59 2011 From: mikljmal at gmail.com (Michael J Maloney) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:16:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Shifting Forks Message-ID: John; I took the 3 forks from my 66 BJ8,which had similar wear that you describe,to my local machinist. He built up the shoulders with silver solder then machined them out to the original size.He also made up a new bushing for the shift lever.I should have everything back together soon and will let you know the outcome. Mike Maloney 66 HLY HBJ8L 32990 From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 20:44:16 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:44:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Transmission parts and fixes In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20110616132758.020f0260@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20110616132758.020f0260@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DFABF80.1090503@comcast.net> BCS had my shift fork brazed and machined. Been fine for over 100K miles. For a bit smoother shifting try Redline MTL or MT-90. Bob On 6/16/2011 1:35 PM, john spaur wrote: > I would like to make the 1962 transmission shift smoother and I am not interested in putting in a Smitty. > > I have opened it up and the gears look good however there are some issues with two of the shifter forks. The shoulders > of 3rd - 4th fork, where the selector shaft pulls, are very rounded. The 1st - 2nd fork, in the same area, is worn > about 3/32" on one side and possible 1/16" on the other side. I don't believe they are bent. > > The 3rd - 4th fork is $279 and the other one does not appear to be available. Can these be braised and machined? Is it > something, if fixed, that will improve the shifting? I plan on replacing the syncros but is there anything else that > should be done to make the transmission less stiff like checking the tolerances on the fork shafts and hard chroming > them? > > Suggestions appreciated! > > Thank you, > John Spaur > '62 BT7 > _______________________________________________ > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From warthodson at aol.com Thu Jun 16 20:47:55 2011 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:47:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> Message-ID: <8CDFAB018634CD1-D5C-1D386@webmail-d057.sysops.aol.com> Curt, Has the car below been re-painted? Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Curt/Nancy Arndt cnaarndt at gmail.com BTW if anyone wants to see a real 18K original mile survivor, check out this N1. I know the owner since my BN1 is exactly 100 chassis numbers older han this car. http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/124-Austin-Healey-100/4%20Roadster-Inline %204%20Cyl Cheers, Curt From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Thu Jun 16 21:14:05 2011 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:14:05 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?750_miles?= Message-ID: <20110617031405.8534.qmail@server278.com> there is another healey on ebay that the lady says it has 7000+ miles. no way. she at least says she "thinks" this is the mileage. i am assuming the odometer is on its second go around. hjim From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 21:35:02 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:35:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <8CDFAB018634CD1-D5C-1D386@webmail-d057.sysops.aol.com> References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <8CDFAB018634CD1-D5C-1D386@webmail-d057.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4DFACB66.7090100@comcast.net> The underside seems a bit rough for a low-mileage car. Is that from road salt? Bob On 6/16/2011 7:47 PM, warthodson at aol.com wrote: > Curt, > Has the car below been re-painted? > Gary Hodson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt cnaarndt at gmail.com > > > BTW if anyone wants to see a real 18K original mile survivor, check out this > N1. I know the owner since my BN1 is exactly 100 chassis numbers older > han this car. > http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/124-Austin-Healey-100/4%20Roadster-Inline > %204%20Cyl > Cheers, > Curt > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From jule_enterprisesah at yahoo.com Thu Jun 16 21:36:06 2011 From: jule_enterprisesah at yahoo.com (Martin Jansen) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <4DFAB5A7.2020000@comcast.net> Message-ID: <974740.57942.qm@web121815.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> You have misquoted me once again. But I do appreciate the plug your negativity always generates business for me. It would seem the more you say awful things about me and my company the more people turn to our company. It would seem your rants are very positive for my business. So thank you Bob keep on ranting. I hope you are doing well. Happy Healeying, Marty www.jule-enterprises.com --- On Thu, 6/16/11, Bob Spidell wrote: From: Bob Spidell Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 To: healeys at autox.team.net Received: Thursday, June 16, 2011, 10:02 PM re: "Perhaps people should remember if you don't have anything nice to say than you shouldn't say anything." That's rich, coming from the guy who all but called Healeys not re-framed with a Jule frame death traps (and their owner/drivers irresponsible miscreants). Perhaps you should say 'If you don't have anything nice to say, or you can't make money off it, then you shouldn't say anything.' Bob On 6/16/2011 5:38 PM, Martin Jansen wrote: > David , I agree with you. It is his car to restore the way he wants.The owner > was not asking for a critique from this forum. He is not saying it is > concours. > I find the responses cruel and childish. It is this type of behaviour which > stops people from joining the Austin Healey club and from buying Healeys. > I do not know why people find it necessary to be so critical and mean. I find > it shameful behaviour. > Perhaps people should remember if you don't have anything nice to say than you > shouldn't say anything. > > > Happy Healeying, Marty www.jule-enterprises.com > _______________________________________________ > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jule_enterprisesah at yahoo.com From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 16 21:43:22 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:43:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <4DFAA59D.1010503@comcast.net> References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> <980BC624-EC6D-4243-BE99-4C1CC9425C48@sbcglobal.net> <4DFAA59D.1010503@comcast.net> Message-ID: The car purchased in Pleasanton did not end up in England. It is in the Bay Area currently under a frame up restoration. It did not fetch $115 k the original purchaser is restoring the car. This is one more reason we have to be careful what is said on this list. All your facts about this Factory 100 M are wrong except for that it was purchased in Pleasanton. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca www.britishcarspecialists.com On Jun 16, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Given the banged-up ex-racer 100M that a guy bought (scammed?) from a widow in Pleasanton that was sold/shipped to England and appeared to sell for over $100K 'over there' this car might have fetched more than $115K if left in the original condition, without the expense of the restoration. > > Oh, the irony ... > > Bob > > > > On 6/16/2011 2:25 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: >> Listers, >> >> The Concours Committee is already on this and needless to say it's a huge >> disappointment. >> >> I have seen the car on the website, sent the information to the rest of the >> Concours Committee, talked to Bruce Canepa, the owner and seller, and in my >> expert opinion the car is BS. >> >> It very well have been an original 750 mile car, but whoever TOTALLY >> restored it destroyed all of that originality. >> >> The big item that doesn't pass the smell test is the reproduction VIN tag. >> >> For $115K there are better cars out there as far as condition/originality >> and value. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Curt > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* From jule_enterprisesah at yahoo.com Thu Jun 16 21:46:57 2011 From: jule_enterprisesah at yahoo.com (Martin Jansen) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Re: FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 Message-ID: <355297.82246.qm@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> You have misquoted me once again. But I do appreciate the plug your negativity always generates business for me. It would seem the more you say awful things about me and my company the more people turn to our company. It would seem your rants are very positive for my business. So thank you Bob keep on ranting. I hope you are doing well. Happy Healeying, Marty www.jule-enterprises.com From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 22:09:10 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:09:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> <980BC624-EC6D-4243-BE99-4C1CC9425C48@sbcglobal.net> <4DFAA59D.1010503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4DFAD366.5040801@comcast.net> OK, I stand corrected on this one. The car was offered on a local auction site for a few days, then disappeared and showed-up on an English broker's site for the $US equivalent of about $105,000. It was a reasonable assumption that the car had been dispatched to England because it was an English site and it was priced in pounds. Please keep us posted on the local restoration. David, here's my post on the '750 mile' car. Please re-read carefully: "I thought the coolant hose clamps on a BN2 were the band type--forget the proper name (Robbins?)--not the wire type. The engine paint is awful glossy. I've never seen a BN2 with the copper fuel lines chromed (but, hey, doesn't mean they weren't). Weren't the brake drums dull silver? Also, I thought the lip on the bottom of the rear shroud was hand-painted a flat black. I would expect some corrosion on bare metal parts regardless of how well the car was stored. Not picking on this car--we're restoring a BN2 (100M) and want to get as correct as possible." If you read this carefully, you'll note I was asking questions--nowhere did I claim anything as fact. Like I said, I'm trying to get my car as close to original as practical, so I study good originals carefully. So, I can now assume: - original hose clamps for a BN2 are the wire type (I have been advised otherwise)? - engine paint-esp. the valve cover--is glossy, possibly even clear-coated? - copper fuel lines to the carbs should be chrome-plated? - brake drums should be glossy black? - bottom lip on rear shroud was not brush-painted flat black at the factory? - exposed bare metal doesn't corrode over time, even in good storage conditions? Cheers, Bob On 6/16/2011 8:43 PM, David Nock wrote: > The car purchased in Pleasanton did not end up in England. It is in the Bay Area currently under a frame up restoration. It did not fetch $115 k the original purchaser is restoring the car. This is one more reason we have to be careful what is said on this list. All your facts about this Factory 100 M are wrong except for that it was purchased in Pleasanton. > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca > www.britishcarspecialists.com > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 22:12:17 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:12:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <974740.57942.qm@web121815.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <974740.57942.qm@web121815.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DFAD421.3080301@comcast.net> re: " It would seem your rants are very positive for my business" Glad to hear it. BTW, how are the nitrated camshafts selling? If your customers like those, they should try nitrite--works great on hot dogs. Bob On 6/16/2011 8:36 PM, Martin Jansen wrote: > You have misquoted me once again. > But I do appreciate the plug your negativity always generates business for me. It would seem the more you say awful > things about me and my company the more people turn to our company. It would seem your rants are very positive for my > business. So thank you Bob keep on ranting. > I hope you are doing well. > > Happy Healeying, > Marty > www.jule-enterprises.com > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 22:21:42 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:21:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <8CDFAB018634CD1-D5C-1D386@webmail-d057.sysops.aol.com> References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <8CDFAB018634CD1-D5C-1D386@webmail-d057.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Gary, I spoke with the owner today and to the best of my knowledge no, it has not been repainted. I hope to be able to see this car this August when I'm in Northern California. C On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:47 PM, wrote: > Curt, > Has the car below been re-painted? > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt cnaarndt at gmail.com > > BTW if anyone wants to see a real 18K original mile survivor, check out this > BN1. I know the owner since my BN1 is exactly 100 chassis numbers older > than this car.http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/124-Austin-Healey-100/4%20Roadster-Inline%204%20Cyl > Cheers, > Curt From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 22:22:05 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:22:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Re: FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <355297.82246.qm@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <355297.82246.qm@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DFAD66D.9070607@comcast.net> re: " It would seem your rants are very positive for my business" Glad to hear it. BTW, how are the nitrated camshafts selling? If your customers like those, they should try nitrite--works great on hot dogs. Bob On 6/16/2011 8:46 PM, Martin Jansen wrote: > You have misquoted me once again. > But I do appreciate the plug your negativity always generates business for me. > It would seem the more you say awful things about me and my company the more > people turn to our company. It would seem your rants are very positive for my > business. So thank you Bob keep on ranting. > I hope you are doing well. > > Happy Healeying, Marty www.jule-enterprises.com > _______________________________________________ > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 22:41:06 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:41:06 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> Message-ID: I hate to say it, but it looks to me like Skip LaCabe took Tom Shelton for a ride. Yes he did a very nice shiny job, but "refreshing the Mechanicals" on a car with 750 miles, kept indoors, is way overkill. I doubt that Tom Shelton made up his mind to do this without Skip saying "wow, what a great car, let me spruce it up for you like how I cleaned up your Dino" I can see the discussion now... I note that there isn't a single mention of Skip LaCabe anywhere on the internet. That should tell you something about what sort of mechanic this guy is. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:10 AM, David Nock wrote: > I do not think they are claiming that the car is original CONCOUSE as > per the guidelines. And if you are wanting to do this then how about > the Kurt Tanner car that went to Scottsdale a couple of years ago > that was never a Gold Beige Car. I sold him the wrecked chassis that > started life as a BRG BJ8 and ended up a $135,000 Gold Beige BJ8. > > > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 22:42:45 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:42:45 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <8CDFAB018634CD1-D5C-1D386@webmail-d057.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Curt - That may be the case, but the mechanicals have definitely been painted over... Alan On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Gary, > > I spoke with the owner today and to the best of my knowledge no, it has not > been repainted. I hope to be able to see this car this August when I'm in > Northern California. > > C > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:47 PM, wrote: > > > Curt, > > Has the car below been re-painted? > > Gary Hodson > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt cnaarndt at gmail.com > > > > BTW if anyone wants to see a real 18K original mile survivor, check out > this > > BN1. I know the owner since my BN1 is exactly 100 chassis numbers older > > than this car. > http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/124-Austin-Healey-100/4%20Roadster-Inline%204%20Cyl > > Cheers, > > Curt > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 23:08:19 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:08:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <4DFAA310.2060902@comcast.net> References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> <4DFAA310.2060902@comcast.net> Message-ID: First off, this sellers reputation is well known to me, and others in the industry and we will leave it at that. Secondly, in my opinion, there is a subtle intent to deceive here where the owner purposely tries to make this car sound like it's an original 750 mile car with very little done to it... this is absolutely not the case. In fact this fellow got very defensive with me today after I called him to inquire about the car for a client. This car has been totally restored, and either through ignorance or laziness what made this a potentially valuable car is now lost forever. I have no problem with someone restoring the car but too many things were done incorrectly that just didn't need to be done. BTW, the current owner and seller did not restore this car, that being said he's asking a premium ($115K) for this car based on certain assumptions where it's not warranted. *And how come no one wants to mention the fact that the VIN tag is a REPRODUCTION!* This is a huge red flag to me and others on the Concours Committee. There is something not right here, and in fact another Concours Committee member also looked at this car for a client and he told him to run away from it. As far as David's comments go, who the hell said anything about not being able to tastefully modify a car or that it had to be restored exactly as it came from the factory. I for one as the Concours Chairman am getting sick and tired having to repeat myself on this issue. There are a lot of modifications that can be made to an Austin Healey that will improve the driving and performance without detracting from the visible originality. Both of my cars are being restored with this in mind, but the Concours detractors want to spin what we do as being too rigid and inflexible, when this is just not the case. We are in my opinion the most liberal in our judging standards, catering to the cars being driven. If your Healey is a trailer queen that's your fault, not ours. This being said we also have one of the toughest judging standards of any Concours. Like Jaguar Concours (JCNA) we judge to 1,000 points, but unlike Jaguar, who take a max of 20 minutes, our typical judging can run 90 minutes or more. I'm involved with Jaguar Concours and the Jag folks I know have a lot of respect for what we do. Maybe most of you on the list don't see what I see but here are a few things that bug me about this car... -The fender spear on backwards, give me a break and this guy wants top dollar for this car? -Hardura in the boot versus Armacord. What... too cheap, lazy or ignorant to get the correct material? -Typical incorrect Moss interior with the white piping on the seats. Obviously replaced the carpet. -Wrong steering wheel? My original wheel, on a 76K original mile car that was not pampered but at least indoors is still perfect after 56 years.. read NO CRACKS. And this car had 500 miles on it and spent all of its life in someone house? -As far as the fuel line goes , no chrome was not original nor an option. The original copper pipe was a flat zinc or possibly flat nickel plated. - Grill teeth are bright chrome not the satin or "Butler" chrome as original. This finish is extremely durable and I can see no reason what so ever to have replated the grill other than personal preference. - Finally the reproduction VIN tag, need I say more? I'll end it here with the personal preference line. His car his choice. But now don't try to sell for what it is not. What it is, is nice bronze or silver level car, that in my opinion (and Gary Anderson's too) worth about $75K at auction. Bottom line... Bob Spidell summed up what I, and others I've spoken to think. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: *The problem I have--and I suspect others do too--is that this car is not presented as having been (lavishly over-) restored. All I saw was mention of a few mechanical fixes, and the red coves being added. Why was an obviously expensive restoration not mentioned? Because the car could possibly fetch more money as a pristine original, presumably sold to someone not truly versed in Healey provenance? IMO, this borders on misrepresentation--this seller is not naive. * Remember, I've spoken with the seller and something is fishy about this car, and in fact he was so defensive he started yelling at me. I advised my client to walk away from it, and he agrees.* *Cheers, Curt From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 23:17:35 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:17:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <8CDFAB018634CD1-D5C-1D386@webmail-d057.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Alan, I was talking about the 18K original mile Spruce Green BN1 on the Fantasy Junction website. Now this is an original car, and the collector who know owns it (he has a 300 car collection ) considers this one of his favorites due to it's originality. This is why I have so much heartburn with the misrepresentation of the White over Red BN2. Original cars command the most money! Cheers, Curt http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/124-Austin-Healey-100/4%20Roadster-Inline%204%20Cyl Cheers, Curt On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Curt - > > That may be the case, but the mechanicals have definitely been painted > over... > > Alan > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > >> Gary, >> >> I spoke with the owner today and to the best of my knowledge no, it has >> not >> been repainted. I hope to be able to see this car this August when I'm in >> Northern California. >> >> C >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:47 PM, wrote: >> >> > Curt, >> > Has the car below been re-painted? >> > Gary Hodson >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt cnaarndt at gmail.com >> > >> > BTW if anyone wants to see a real 18K original mile survivor, check out >> this >> > BN1. I know the owner since my BN1 is exactly 100 chassis numbers older >> > than this car. >> http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/124-Austin-Healey-100/4%20Roadster-Inline%204%20Cyl >> > Cheers, >> > Curt From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 23:54:20 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:54:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Re: FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <355297.82246.qm@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <355297.82246.qm@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DFAEC0C.8020307@comcast.net> Which is ironic, because if I needed a frame I'd go with a Kilmartin: http://www.kas-kilmartin.com.au/prod01.htm And it appears they are now in Europe: http://www.kilmartin.eu/KAS_Europe/Home.html Their sheetmetal is excellent--I know from first-hand--and I'd expect no less from a complete chassis. Great blokes to deal with, too (I bet they even know what nitriding is). Bob On 6/16/2011 8:46 PM, Martin Jansen wrote: > You have misquoted me once again. > But I do appreciate the plug your negativity always generates business for me. > It would seem the more you say awful things about me and my company the more > people turn to our company. It would seem your rants are very positive for my > business. So thank you Bob keep on ranting. > I hope you are doing well. > > Happy Healeying, Marty www.jule-enterprises.com > _______________________________________________ > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 23:58:20 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 07:58:20 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 on a custom frame In-Reply-To: <7267C201AD4E4BC0A5B21DD1F7D9E85E@TM1> References: <7267C201AD4E4BC0A5B21DD1F7D9E85E@TM1> Message-ID: Not to my taste either, but still I must agree: very neat job! Gergo 2011/6/13 Tadeusz Malkiewicz > Not my cup of tea, not sure of the purpose, but impressive work to > design/make a completely new frame for the Healey. > > http://tinyurl.com/5v8pejo > > > Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 00:31:43 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:31:43 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <8CDFAB018634CD1-D5C-1D386@webmail-d057.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: David Nock I do not understand why a guy that restores a car beyond what it was > and may make a few mistakes in installing a part here and there has > to be bashed by everyone on this list. You can go thru every one of > the cars that any of the Healey Restoration Shops do and you will > find things that are no original. > But surely the point is that this car was unique, it only had 750 miles on it and it was in original condition. It needed a sympathetic restoration to maintain its originality and its value. Why on earth the owner allowed this to happen is beyond me, he appears to have given the restoration work to a Custom detailer and by doing so has definitely reduced its value. Derk On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Alan, > > I was talking about the 18K original mile Spruce Green BN1 on the Fantasy > Junction website. Now this is an original car, and the collector who know > owns it (he has a 300 car collection ) considers this one of his favorites > due to it's originality. This is why I have so much heartburn with the > misrepresentation of the White over Red BN2. Original cars command the > most > money! > > Cheers, > > Curt > > > http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/124-Austin-Healey-100/4%20Roadster-Inline%204%20Cyl > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Alan Seigrist > wrote: > > > Curt - > > > > That may be the case, but the mechanicals have definitely been painted > > over... > > > > Alan > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt >wrote: > > > >> Gary, > >> > >> I spoke with the owner today and to the best of my knowledge no, it has > >> not > >> been repainted. I hope to be able to see this car this August when I'm > in > >> Northern California. > >> > >> C > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:47 PM, wrote: > >> > >> > Curt, > >> > Has the car below been re-painted? > >> > Gary Hodson > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt cnaarndt at gmail.com > >> > > >> > BTW if anyone wants to see a real 18K original mile survivor, check > out > >> this > >> > BN1. I know the owner since my BN1 is exactly 100 chassis numbers > older > >> > than this car. > >> > http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/124-Austin-Healey-100/4%20Roadster-Inline%204%20Cyl > >> > Cheers, > >> > Curt > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 00:40:12 2011 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:40:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 on a custom frame In-Reply-To: References: <7267C201AD4E4BC0A5B21DD1F7D9E85E@TM1> Message-ID: absolutely stunning. i cannot believe the price. a steal. ron r > > > > http://tinyurl.com/5v8pejo From healeyguy at bredband.net Fri Jun 17 04:08:23 2011 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:08:23 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 on a custom frame In-Reply-To: References: <7267C201AD4E4BC0A5B21DD1F7D9E85E@TM1> Message-ID: <4DFB2797.9040503@bredband.net> Guys Remember, it's not a Healey, it's a kit car. Very nice, but not a Austin-Healey. Per in Sweden From tadeusz.malkiewicz at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 04:38:00 2011 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at gmail.com (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:38:00 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <86CF3B58DD0A4CD0A853B140C4E800D2@TM1> Curt, Rich, et al, I have to agree with you. I believe though, The point is not that someone restored a 100 with more or less expertise and got the parts back not correctly. I believe that the point is that the owner took apart a 55 year old car with 750 miles. In addition, did not quite get it back right. As Richard Korn said, it's like repainting a Stradivarius that was never restored. David, they _are_ original only once!! On top, Such a car presented a much higher value (not just to the Concourse Committee, but money wise) unrestored. Take a look at the unrestored XK Jaguars or Aston Martins - the prices are _MUCH_ higher than for restored examples. Take a look at the value of the NOJ391 - do you think it would be worth more restored?.. Tadek From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 05:12:51 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:12:51 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <86CF3B58DD0A4CD0A853B140C4E800D2@TM1> References: <86CF3B58DD0A4CD0A853B140C4E800D2@TM1> Message-ID: Its easy: restoring a car is only a matter of work, time, knowledge. Each You can get for money. Original 50+ years old factory fittment in good condition - its something You cannot order from a pro resto company. Gergo 2011/6/17 Tadeusz Malkiewicz > Curt, Rich, et al, > > I have to agree with you. > > I believe though, The point is not that someone restored a 100 with more or > less expertise and got the parts back not correctly. I believe that the > point is that the owner took apart a 55 year old car with 750 miles. In > addition, did not quite get it back right. > As Richard Korn said, it's like repainting a Stradivarius that was never > restored. > > David, they _are_ original only once!! > > On top, Such a car presented a much higher value (not just to the Concourse > Committee, but money wise) unrestored. > Take a look at the unrestored XK Jaguars or Aston Martins - the prices are > _MUCH_ higher than for restored examples. > Take a look at the value of the NOJ391 - do you think it would be worth > more > restored?.. > > > Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From mikljmal at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 05:21:09 2011 From: mikljmal at gmail.com (Michael J Maloney) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 07:21:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] shifter forks Message-ID: John; Interesting. He just used silver solder to build up the shoulders then did the machining.I am going with this solution and will check for wear next winter. that should give me data to report. Meanwhile,I will check back with Tony, the machinist, for his input. Mike Maloney 66 HLY HBJ8L 32990 From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Fri Jun 17 05:33:50 2011 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (Jose Vicente Vargas) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:33:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> <4DFAA310.2060902@comcast.net> Message-ID: I did mention the id tag as being wrong in one of the first mails about this car .... Sent from my iPad On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:08 AM, "Curt/Nancy Arndt" wrote: > First off, this sellers reputation is well known to me, and others in the > industry and we will leave it at that. > > Secondly, in my opinion, there is a subtle intent to deceive here where the > owner purposely tries to make this car sound like it's an original 750 mile > car with very little done to it... this is absolutely not the case. In fact > this fellow got very defensive with me today after I called him to inquire > about the car for a client. This car has been totally restored, and either > through ignorance or laziness what made this a potentially valuable car is > now lost forever. I have no problem with someone restoring the car but too > many things were done incorrectly that just didn't need to be done. > > BTW, the current owner and seller did not restore this car, that being said > he's asking a premium ($115K) for this car based on certain assumptions > where it's not warranted. *And how come no one wants to mention the fact > that the VIN tag is a REPRODUCTION!* This is a huge red flag to me and > others on the Concours Committee. There is something not right here, and in > fact another Concours Committee member also looked at this car for a client > and he told him to run away from it. > > As far as David's comments go, who the hell said anything about not being > able to tastefully modify a car or that it had to be restored exactly as it > came from the factory. I for one as the Concours Chairman am getting sick > and tired having to repeat myself on this issue. There are a lot of > modifications that can be made to an Austin Healey that will improve the > driving and performance without detracting from the visible originality. > Both of my cars are being restored with this in mind, but the Concours > detractors want to spin what we do as being too rigid and inflexible, when > this is just not the case. > > We are in my opinion the most liberal in our judging standards, catering to > the cars being driven. If your Healey is a trailer queen that's your fault, > not ours. This being said we also have one of the toughest judging > standards of any Concours. Like Jaguar Concours (JCNA) we judge to 1,000 > points, but unlike Jaguar, who take a max of 20 minutes, our typical judging > can run 90 minutes or more. I'm involved with Jaguar Concours and the Jag > folks I know have a lot of respect for what we do. > > Maybe most of you on the list don't see what I see but here are a few things > that bug me about this car... > > -The fender spear on backwards, give me a break and this guy wants top > dollar for this car? > -Hardura in the boot versus Armacord. What... too cheap, lazy or ignorant > to get the correct material? > -Typical incorrect Moss interior with the white piping on the seats. > Obviously replaced the carpet. > -Wrong steering wheel? My original wheel, on a 76K original mile car that > was not pampered but at least indoors is still perfect after 56 years.. read > NO CRACKS. And this car had 500 miles on it and spent all of its life in > someone house? > -As far as the fuel line goes , no chrome was not original nor an option. > The original copper pipe was a flat zinc or possibly flat nickel plated. > - Grill teeth are bright chrome not the satin or "Butler" chrome as > original. This finish is extremely durable and I can see no reason what so > ever to have replated the grill other than personal preference. > - Finally the reproduction VIN tag, need I say more? > > I'll end it here with the personal preference line. His car his choice. > But now don't try to sell for what it is not. What it is, is nice bronze or > silver level car, that in my opinion (and Gary Anderson's too) worth about > $75K at auction. Bottom line... Bob Spidell summed up what I, and others > I've spoken to think. > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > *The problem I have--and I suspect others do too--is that this car is not > presented as having been (lavishly over-) restored. All I saw was mention > of a few mechanical fixes, and the red coves being added. Why was an > obviously expensive restoration not mentioned? Because the car could > possibly fetch more money as a pristine original, presumably sold to someone > not truly versed in Healey provenance? IMO, this borders on > misrepresentation--this seller is not naive. > * > Remember, I've spoken with the seller and something is fishy about this car, > and in fact he was so defensive he started yelling at me. I advised my > client to walk away from it, and he agrees.* > > *Cheers, > > Curt > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From bighealey at charter.net Fri Jun 17 06:22:45 2011 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 05:22:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <4DFAA310.2060902@comcast.net> References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> <4DFAA310.2060902@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003b01cc2ce9$4401c2f0$cc0548d0$@charter.net> Guys When I see a car I like I want to DRIVE it. To me the shame is NOT that a 150 Mile car was restored or painted or interior tossed. THAT FACT THAT THE OWNERS NEVER DROVE IT AND IT ONLY HAS 150 MILES IS THE PROBLEM FOR ME. Cars are not meant to sit in a living room. I hope whoever buys it puts 30,000 fun miles on it a year. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:43 PM To: David Nock Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 David, The problem I have--and I suspect others do too--is that this car is not presented as having been (lavishly over-) restored. All I saw was mention of a few mechanical fixes, and the red coves being added. Why was an obviously expensive restoration not mentioned? Because the car could possibly fetch more money as a pristine original, presumably sold to someone not truly versed in Healey provenance? IMO, this borders on misrepresentation--this seller is not naive. Bob On 6/16/2011 3:53 PM, David Nock wrote: > So it was restored. Why is it that the only way to restore a car is as > it was 50 years ago. There are so many things that you can do to these > cars today that will make them a much better car to drive. No i do not > think that you should go away from the idea of the Healey but if it > can be made better why not do it. > > I do not understand why a guy that restores a car beyond what it was > and may make a few mistakes in installing a part here and there has to > be bashed by everyone on this list. You can go thru every one of the > cars that any of the Healey Restoration Shops do and you will find > things that are no original. > > We have been doing some cars with Wilton Wool carpeting, and complete > Connley leather interiors, to include all the panels in leather. The > reason I have done this is that the owner wanted it that way. How > often have you tried to match leather and vinyl colors, they never do. > I have added cruise control, lightened flywheels, limited slip, > oversized sway bars, tube shock conversions, along with many more. > Are these any less of a car than the one that is like it rolled out of > the factory. > > If you want to try a interesting test, look back to one of Gary > Andersons early copies of British Car Magazine. We did an article on > driving the different Healey's. There was one of each model from a > factory 100M, Gary's Concourse BN7, My Modified BN4 and Len Hartnett's > BJ8. We drove about 100 miles swappping cars along the way. A very > interesting article look it up > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From tadeusz.malkiewicz at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 06:28:21 2011 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at gmail.com (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:28:21 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Precisely.. _____ From: Austin Healey [mailto:pajtamuvek at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:13 PM To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; Richard Korn Subject: Re: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 Its easy: restoring a car is only a matter of work, time, knowledge. Each You can get for money. Original 50+ years old factory fittment in good condition - its something You cannot order from a pro resto company. Gergo 2011/6/17 Tadeusz Malkiewicz Curt, Rich, et al, I have to agree with you. I believe though, The point is not that someone restored a 100 with more or less expertise and got the parts back not correctly. I believe that the point is that the owner took apart a 55 year old car with 750 miles. In addition, did not quite get it back right. As Richard Korn said, it's like repainting a Stradivarius that was never restored. David, they _are_ original only once!! On top, Such a car presented a much higher value (not just to the Concourse Committee, but money wise) unrestored. Take a look at the unrestored XK Jaguars or Aston Martins - the prices are _MUCH_ higher than for restored examples. Take a look at the value of the NOJ391 - do you think it would be worth more restored?.. Tadek _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From bighealey at charter.net Fri Jun 17 06:37:09 2011 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 05:37:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <86CF3B58DD0A4CD0A853B140C4E800D2@TM1> References: <86CF3B58DD0A4CD0A853B140C4E800D2@TM1> Message-ID: <004001cc2ceb$46a30fd0$d3e92f70$@charter.net> I love music It's like repainting a Stradivarius that was never PLAYED. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tadeusz Malkiewicz Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 3:38 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: 'Richard Korn' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 Curt, Rich, et al, I have to agree with you. I believe though, The point is not that someone restored a 100 with more or less expertise and got the parts back not correctly. I believe that the point is that the owner took apart a 55 year old car with 750 miles. In addition, did not quite get it back right. As Richard Korn said, it's like repainting a Stradivarius that was never restored. David, they _are_ original only once!! On top, Such a car presented a much higher value (not just to the Concourse Committee, but money wise) unrestored. Take a look at the unrestored XK Jaguars or Aston Martins - the prices are _MUCH_ higher than for restored examples. Take a look at the value of the NOJ391 - do you think it would be worth more restored?.. Tadek _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From mgcharlie at comcast.net Fri Jun 17 06:59:11 2011 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:59:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 750 mile car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DFB4F9F.20002@comcast.net> I suppose that I should comment on this, because the car that Shawn is referring to is mine. It is a 1960 3000. It actually has around 14,500 miles on it now. It had around 13,800 on it when we bought it a couple of years ago. It is very original and we want to be sure that wherever it ends up the new owner does not want to restore it. The paint, seats, carpet, top, tonneau, trunk liner, etc. are all original as they left the factory and unrestored. The drive train is original. Some painting has occurred to the engine to make it presentable. Many of you may know that much of the paint on these cars was not necessarily done with longevity of the finish in mind. We also have the original tires on the original wheels. I'm debating now on whether I should have the wheels sandblasted and paint them to be presentable or leave them the way they are. The original paint on them does not look very good, with lots of small rust specks showing through, and one of them had already been sandblasted some when we got the car. I have signed up to have it judged in concours at Encounter in August and don't want to get deductions for using those ugly wheels or for having non-original type radial 165-15 tires on other wheels, either 48 or 60 spoke, which is what I have available. The original exhaust system is also with the car along with a factory hardtop that was bought from the dealer when the car was new. The Heritage cert. does not mention a hardtop, so I have to assume that it was just bought from the dealer. The car now has a stainless steel exhaust system on it. The car is local here to Lancaster County, PA, and was bought as a birthday present for the man's wife, who traded another Austin-Healey in on it. It spent the first five years of its life in a climate controlled carriage house. But when he died, she turned off the heat and A/C and it mostly just sat. It was last registered in 1967, before being purchased at the estate sale in 2001. The party that we bought it from brought it back to life with mostly sympathetic means. I think that is a real shame that if the 750 mile car was in anything like the condition of this one, that someone restored it and destroyed all of it's originality. There is another car that this brings to mind. That is Larry Varley's 100 that was wrecked very early in its life and therefore did need to be restored. He did a wonderful job with it, modified it some, but it is truly a beautiful car, which he actually saved by restoring it. It had very few miles on it also. Charlie On 6/16/2011 6:15 PM, S and T Miller wrote: > A fellow club member (AHSTC) has a 13,000 mile/ unrestored 3000 for sale. A > really cool car. > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From tadeusz.malkiewicz at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 07:22:37 2011 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at gmail.com (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:22:37 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for small bits for my BN2 Message-ID: <7A89808ECBD044F4A8C108D92F9E0802@TM1> Hello, I am looking for few small bits for my BN2: - original turn button for fixing the tonneau - 4 pcs - (original) 1/4" bolts any length above 3/4" (for radiator and bonnet) - (original) bolts fixing the door hinges - BSF bolt that fixes the vaccum line to the distributor to the engine (just below the bonnet lock). - 2 over-riders (with the original bolt type) - rear bumper brackets (from the inside), I have those mounting the bumper from the outside Please contact me offlist if you could help me with any of the above. Tadek From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Fri Jun 17 08:03:00 2011 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:03:00 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> <4DFAA310.2060902@comcast.net> Message-ID: Sorry to come back to the car for sale. For me it looks like to be a very nice Healey 100 BN2, restored to the taste of its owner, not more, not less. What the owners have done with the car, that`s their matter and they may have had a reason for doing so. If the car has got 750 miles or 75 000 miles on the clock, I do not care. A 750 miles car could have been rusted through and through, involved in an awful accident, burnt out, flooded, whatever. A 75000 miles car can look extremely good, if the owners took care. If its got 75 000 miles and never was restored but kept in excellent shape with no rust, only little wear etc. then this is a car for one who wants to have what some call an untouched car. If the owner of a 750 miles car decides to restore it, whatever reason he has for doing that, its his and if he is happy with the result, I can except it. Austin-Healeys are not Crown Jewelries and market decides about the value of each car. A famous finance tycoon, Andre Kostolany, once said, a share is worth the money one has just spent for it. So if there is an asking price of $ 115000, the car is it worth, if there is one who spends the money for it. So please leave it what it is, a restored low milage car, which would not receive a gold in American Austin-Healey Concours. But in my eyes its still a nice car. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany From willig at wtnet.de Fri Jun 17 08:59:21 2011 From: willig at wtnet.de (T+ B Willig) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:59:21 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] How to fit a Hood to my BN2 Message-ID: <001d01cc2cff$2445f970$6cd1ec50$@de> Hello, can someone enlighten me how the hood is correctly fitted to the hoodframe on my BN2? Thanks in advance Thomas Willig From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jun 17 09:14:37 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:14:37 EDT Subject: [Healeys] "Original" BN2? Message-ID: <73cb0.6ff00b1a.3b2cc95d@aol.com> Not to worry, since the damage has already been done. This will be bought by one of Canepa's high-roller clients for his wife, they will drive it on one California Mille and be discontented when they don't get lots of respect, get passed by the Ferraris, and wind up with back and butt pains from the badly redone seats. Then, because they weren't Healey folks to begin with (or they would have known better than to pay this much for this little) they will tuck the car in the back of their multi-car display facility for a few years, and eventually sell it at Silver Auctions for about $40,000 and it will wind up in the back of a third-rate "museum" somewhere in the midwest. Bottom line, we'll never see it again. If the restorer was, in fact, working with a 750 mile car stored in a living room (How do you get a car in and out of a living room, anyhow, or is this a case of a person living in his parent's garage with a barcalounger and tv next to the Healey and a studio behind or above?) then he's done a desecration and won't lose much money on the deal. I'll have to check it out, since I've got to go down there in a week or so, anyhow. Gary From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jun 17 09:25:08 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:25:08 EDT Subject: [Healeys] On the spelling of concours Message-ID: <744cd.259fd5d.3b2ccbd4@aol.com> Once more, class, can we review correct spelling? On the blackboard I have written several words: Concours Concourse Concorse Concorso One of those is the correct spelling of the originally French term for an exhibition or contest, originally a display of newly-crafted cars and appropriately dressed ladies, now used to describe an exhibition and competition among cars maintained or restored to original standards. One of those is the term for a long hallway such as one finds in airports. One of those is the Italian term for the same kind of exhibition or contest as for the French term One of those is a badly botched mispelling that as far as I know means nothing. What amazes me, after doing this for going on 30 years, is that people can argue the principle of the thing and STILL not be able to spell it correctly. Concours -- exhibition or contest among cars Concourse -- place where Curt goes to work Concorso -- Italian version of Concours concorse -- a badly-mangled mispelling. Now, class, tomorrow we will take up the spelling and meaning of mark, marque, and marquee. All the best Editor Gary From bertvanbrande at yahoo.com Fri Jun 17 09:27:55 2011 From: bertvanbrande at yahoo.com (Bert Van Brande) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Trip to Belgium Message-ID: <789275.9643.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am back from a trip to Belgium, visiting family and friends, some of which I had not seen for 8+ years. What a fun time! I managed to squeeze in a couple AH activities. First one was a car show in Ciney in "Les Ardennes". http://www.cineyexpo.be/agenda/evenement.php?id=177 I talked with the president of the Belgium AH club, which had a booth there with a couple big Healeys and a sprite. I missed Derek who was there the day before. There was a huge swap meet partially inside a covered cattle market. Since I was traveling with carry-on only I needed to refrain to buy hardware. The car show had a couple nice but not exceptional Big Healey 6 cyls for sale in the 45,000 Euro range (about $65,000) A bn4 body in restoration on a cart caught my attention. I talked with the gentleman restoring this car. He recreates a lot of panels as well as the frame to original spec in a jig. As his shop was in the Flemish part of Belgium, close to where I stayed, I visited his shop the next day. Next to the 6 cyl he had a BN1 getting closer to final bodywork and there was another BN1 sitting there ready to be restored. So there's at least one more shop in the world recreating panels and frame parts. No marketing for this one, just word of mouth. One interesting tidbit is that the restored panels (fenders, doors) are completely electro-zinc plated after welding and rust repair is done, probably helpful with the moist climate. Strangely enough the weather was nicer in Belgium than here in LA where we have the typical "june gloom" morning fog. But at least the temperatures in the garage are nice this way and I have the next couple weeks off for some serious restoration work to get my 56 BN2 to rolling chassis this summer. cheers, Bert From barrie at look.ca Fri Jun 17 09:15:53 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:15:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: David, Having been an incredibly dyed-in-the-wool AH concours fanatic and now a "not original" driver of a totally rebuilt MGB GT V8 I think I can qualify to comment on your missive. There are several different types of "enthusiasts". One of which is those who want to preserve the history and thus dote on originality. Another type is the one who modify their car and boots it round the countryside. The former cherishes cars in original condition, the latter realising that originality has gone, modifies and improves. But you have to be one or the other !!! The "crime" here is that the owner claimed it was a concours (original) car but it was a "runner" (albeit a worked over one). I think it has something to do with having your cake and eating it ? The "original" crowd likes to protect unmodified, but maybe in sad condition, cars - thus abhor people dropping in strange motorplants into original models or tarting up with goodies. That is why I found an abandoned stripped shell to build my V8 to "original" factory specs. At 06:53 PM 6/16/2011, David Nock wrote: >So it was restored. Why is it that the only way to restore a car is >as it was 50 years ago. There are so many things that you can do to >these cars today that will make them a much better car to drive. No i >do not think that you should go away from the idea of the Healey but >if it can be made better why not do it. > >I do not understand why a guy that restores a car beyond what it was >and may make a few mistakes in installing a part here and there has >to be bashed by everyone on this list. You can go thru every one of >the cars that any of the Healey Restoration Shops do and you will >find things that are no original. > >We have been doing some cars with Wilton Wool carpeting, and complete >Connley leather interiors, to include all the panels in leather. The >reason I have done this is that the owner wanted it that way. How >often have you tried to match leather and vinyl colors, they never >do. I have added cruise control, lightened flywheels, limited slip, >oversized sway bars, tube shock conversions, along with many more. >Are these any less of a car than the one that is like it rolled out >of the factory. > >If you want to try a interesting test, look back to one of Gary >Andersons early copies of British Car Magazine. We did an article on >driving the different Healey's. There was one of each model from a >factory 100M, Gary's Concourse BN7, My Modified BN4 and Len >Hartnett's BJ8. We drove about 100 miles swappping cars along the >way. A very interesting article look it up > > >David Nock >British Car Specialists >Stockton Ca 95205 >209-948-8767 > >www.britishcarspecialists.com >. >. > >On Jun 16, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I must agree with the observations you've all been making. Somebody > > obviously over restored and candied up this car. They must have > > shopped for > > things out of a catalogue and not known correct from "it'll do". > > There are > > so many incorrect things throughout this car. The party who decided > > a 750 > > mile BN2 should be restored like this should be shot and Pi**ed on. > > Who > > would toss an original interior? > > > > Who knows, maybe the poor thing was in a fire or something and had > > to be > > restored. > > > > However, I have the numbers for this car in the Hundred Registry > > and it > > substantiates the low mileage of a car with this chassis number > > over a few > > owners. As recently as April of 2008 it was registered with 556 > > original > > miles and was at the time still single colour OEW. > > > > What happened since then? > > > > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards, Barrie Robinson barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 MGB GT V8 in great nick Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm www.britcot.com www.AMFClub.com From barrie at look.ca Fri Jun 17 09:16:53 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:16:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <04797C71-A597-45F4-BA21-E591B4571545@gmail.com> References: <98070348-6D9A-49BD-9647-642D6315FCFF@sbcglobal.net> <224588.65724.qm@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <04797C71-A597-45F4-BA21-E591B4571545@gmail.com> Message-ID: .........................oh damn, should I have not done that ???? At 07:01 PM 6/16/2011, Richard Korn wrote: >Sort of like taking the Stradavarius "Messiah" violin and refinishing it with >new lacquer and using carbon fiber fittings! > >Richard >BN2 with 16000 miles and rather unattractive original paint. > >Sent from Ricky's iPad > >On Jun 16, 2011, at 21:56, F Ronald Rader wrote: > > > I believe the car was fully restored. > > clearly it is of a higher finish than uit came from the factory. > > ron > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Josi Vicente Vargas > > wrote: > >> > >> Looking at the pictures I believe the chassis id plate is not original. To > > me > >> the numbers stamped no dot correspond to the original typography and > > stamping > >> method used on the original cars and from several pictures I have seen... > >> > >> I > >> may be playing to be Sherlock Holmes... but the car seems to shinny to >have > >> only 750 miles, seems more like a recent complete restoration... very well > >> done > >> but recent.... > >> > >> my 2 cents > >> Josi Vicente Vargas > >> Musmi > >> > >> > >> Tel. (571) 321 > >> 3740 > >> Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 > >> Skype: jovivago > >> > >> > >> www.musme.net > >> > >> > >> Bogota, Colombia > >> ________________________________ > >> From: David Nock > >> To: Healey List List > >> Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 > >> 11:21:36 AM > >> Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 > >> > >> Had a customer contact > >> me today about this car. I have not seen the > >> car but supposedly it is an > >> original unrestored BN2 with only 750 > >> original miles. > >> > >> Thats right I said > >> 750 original miles. > >> > >> If this is correct the concorse committee is going to > >> climb all over > >> this one. > >> http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1956-austin_healey-100~4-bn2- > >> used-6878749.html > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> David Nock > >> British Car Specialists > >> Stockton Ca 95205 > >> 209-948-8767 > >> > >> www.britishcarspecialists.com > >> . > >> . > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> Donate: > >> http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/f.ronald.rader at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cynicbass at gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards, Barrie Robinson barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 MGB GT V8 in great nick Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm www.britcot.com www.AMFClub.com From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jun 17 09:55:03 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <555811955.1747137.1308326103147.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> To the best of my recollection, no one on this List has ever said that an owner can't do what he wants with his car (what good would it do?). There's no law against it, and as chagrined as some of us get when we see an original car get modified, it's just differences of opinion. Heck, I've done a few mechanical tweaks to my BJ8 to make it more maintainable, reliable and drivable--as much as 5K miles/yr--but, so far, the changes are easily reversible (spin-on oil filter, Pertronix ignition, solid state SU fuel pump, 3.54 rearend, oversize wheels and tires). However, when someone modifies a car, then--unintentionally or otherwise--misrepresents that car for financial gain then I, and many others, have a problem with it. This particular car was advertised as a 750-mile original, with only a few minor mechanical fixes/upgrades mentioned, when it appears to have been completely restored. There are laws--in the US, at least--regarding this practice. It's called fraud. I don't think this particular case meets the criteria of fraud, but it comes close (keep in mind I'm not a lawyer). Here's a possible scenario: Some guy who really wants a Healey (or his girlfriend really wants a Healey) is enamored of the clear-coated exhaust valve cover. Now, this guy has more money than patience and is not really familiar with the 'old car' business or Healeys and pays asking price or maybe higher. Then, the guy shows off his new '750-mile original car' to a friend who happens to be on the Concours Committee who points out that, while it is indeed a nice car much of the value--monetary and other--was lost because of the tarting-up. The buyer, having kept a copy of the original sales material (including the website) and feeling deceived decides to contact a lawyer who specializes in fraud. He might very well have a case for civil prosecution--read: lawsuit--and depending on how hard he wants to pursue it he may well win the case. All the seller had to do to prevent this outcome was to clearly state in the sales material that it was a low-mileage original with a 'better-than-new' restoration. Note also that, because of the possible fraud issues, most restorers attempt, at least, to make clear when the car has been significantly altered (e.g. color was changed from BRG to MGB). Praise to the Concours Committee for helping to keep sellers (somewhat more) honest. Your laws/lawyers may vary. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Sorry to come back to the car for sale. For me it looks like to be a very nice Healey 100 BN2, restored to the taste of its owner, not more, not less. What the owners have done with the car, that`s their matter and they may have had a reason for doing so. If the car has got 750 miles or 75 000 miles on the clock, I do not care. A 750 miles car could have been rusted through and through, involved in an awful accident, burnt out, flooded, whatever. A 75000 miles car can look extremely good, if the owners took care. If its got 75 000 miles and never was restored but kept in excellent shape with no rust, only little wear etc. then this is a car for one who wants to have what some call an untouched car. If the owner of a 750 miles car decides to restore it, whatever reason he has for doing that, its his and if he is happy with the result, I can except it. Austin-Healeys are not Crown Jewelries and market decides about the value of each car. A famous finance tycoon, Andre Kostolany, once said, a share is worth the money one has just spent for it. So if there is an asking price of $ 115000, the car is it worth, if there is one who spends the money for it. So please leave it what it is, a restored low milage car, which would not receive a gold in American Austin-Healey Concours. But in my eyes its still a nice car. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany _______________________________________________ From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jun 17 10:10:18 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Trip to Belgium In-Reply-To: <789275.9643.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <139836872.1747799.1308327018491.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I believe Denis Welch sells a frame now, so there's at least four suppliers (DW, Kilmartin, this guy and Jule). Does he sell parts alone, or just build for his own restos? Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA I am back from a trip to Belgium, visiting family and friends, some of which I had not seen for 8+ years. What a fun time! I managed to squeeze in a couple AH activities. First one was a car show in Ciney in "Les Ardennes". http://www.cineyexpo.be/agenda/evenement.php?id=177 I talked with the president of the Belgium AH club, which had a booth there with a couple big Healeys and a sprite. I missed Derek who was there the day before. There was a huge swap meet partially inside a covered cattle market. Since I was traveling with carry-on only I needed to refrain to buy hardware. The car show had a couple nice but not exceptional Big Healey 6 cyls for sale in the 45,000 Euro range (about $65,000) A bn4 body in restoration on a cart caught my attention. I talked with the gentleman restoring this car. He recreates a lot of panels as well as the frame to original spec in a jig. As his shop was in the Flemish part of Belgium, close to where I stayed, I visited his shop the next day. Next to the 6 cyl he had a BN1 getting closer to final bodywork and there was another BN1 sitting there ready to be restored. So there's at least one more shop in the world recreating panels and frame parts. No marketing for this one, just word of mouth. One interesting tidbit is that the restored panels (fenders, doors) are completely electro-zinc plated after welding and rust repair is done, probably helpful with the moist climate. Strangely enough the weather was nicer in Belgium than here in LA where we have the typical "june gloom" morning fog. But at least the temperatures in the garage are nice this way and I have the next couple weeks off for some serious restoration work to get my 56 BN2 to rolling chassis this summer. cheers, Bert From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri Jun 17 10:21:34 2011 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:21:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] On the spelling of concours In-Reply-To: <744cd.259fd5d.3b2ccbd4@aol.com> References: <744cd.259fd5d.3b2ccbd4@aol.com> Message-ID: You forgot Concoors meaning "with beer". Rich Kahn > From: Editorgary at aol.com > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:25:08 -0400 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] On the spelling of concours > > Once more, class, can we review correct spelling? On the blackboard I have > written several words: > > Concours > > Concourse > > Concorse > > Concorso > > One of those is the correct spelling of the originally French term for an > exhibition or contest, originally a display of newly-crafted cars and > appropriately dressed ladies, now used to describe an exhibition and competition > among cars maintained or restored to original standards. > > One of those is the term for a long hallway such as one finds in airports. > > One of those is the Italian term for the same kind of exhibition or contest > as for the French term > > One of those is a badly botched mispelling that as far as I know means > nothing. > > What amazes me, after doing this for going on 30 years, is that people can > argue the principle of the thing and STILL not be able to spell it > correctly. > > Concours -- exhibition or contest among cars > > Concourse -- place where Curt goes to work > > Concorso -- Italian version of Concours > > concorse -- a badly-mangled mispelling. > > Now, class, tomorrow we will take up the spelling and meaning of mark, > marque, and marquee. > > All the best > Editor Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jun 17 10:30:52 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <555811955.1747137.1308326103147.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1565878840.1748922.1308328252980.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Don't know if anybody else on this List watches 'Pawn Stars,' but pawnshop-owner Rick's biggest peeve is customers who try to 'restore' an original item--thinking it makes them more presentable and hence more valuable--which always, ALWAYS, reduces the value to collectors (and to him). He'd rather see a rusty old Colt Navy with a banged-up wooden grip than a shiny, polished-up one with a new pearl handle. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 10:32:46 2011 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:32:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <555811955.1747137.1308326103147.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <555811955.1747137.1308326103147.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: The fantasy junction car is sold. Just saw it on the web link. Any comments about it are moot. Pretty much this whole dust up should be not so much moot as mute. Get over it people. Just to make sure that you understand me, I am aware that there is more than one car in this thread. Bob Johnson BJ8 From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 10:38:11 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:38:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <555811955.1747137.1308326103147.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <555811955.1747137.1308326103147.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob, Thanks, but both you me and plenty of others have been trying to make this point from the beginning, and there are still folks who either can't read or just cannot understand. Cheers, Curt On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > To the best of my recollection, no one on this List has ever said that an > owner can't do what he wants with his car (what good would it do?). There's > no law against it, and as chagrined as some of us get when we see an > original car get modified, it's just differences of opinion. Heck, I've done > a few mechanical tweaks to my BJ8 to make it more maintainable, reliable and > drivable--as much as 5K miles/yr--but, so far, the changes are easily > reversible (spin-on oil filter, Pertronix ignition, solid state SU fuel > pump, 3.54 rearend, oversize wheels and tires). > > However, when someone modifies a car, then--unintentionally or > otherwise--misrepresents that car for financial gain then I, and many > others, have a problem with it. This particular car was advertised as a > 750-mile original, with only a few minor mechanical fixes/upgrades > mentioned, when it appears to have been completely restored. There are > laws--in the US, at least--regarding this practice. It's called fraud. I > don't think this particular case meets the criteria of fraud, but it comes > close (keep in mind I'm not a lawyer). > > Here's a possible scenario: Some guy who really wants a Healey (or his > girlfriend really wants a Healey) is enamored of the clear-coated exhaust > valve cover. Now, this guy has more money than patience and is not really > familiar with the 'old car' business or Healeys and pays asking price or > maybe higher. Then, the guy shows off his new '750-mile original car' to a > friend who happens to be on the Concours Committee who points out that, > while it is indeed a nice car much of the value--monetary and other--was > lost because of the tarting-up. The buyer, having kept a copy of the > original sales material (including the website) and feeling deceived decides > to contact a lawyer who specializes in fraud. He might very well have a case > for civil prosecution--read: lawsuit--and depending on how hard he wants to > pursue it he may well win the case. > > All the seller had to do to prevent this outcome was to clearly state in > the sales material that it was a low-mileage original with a > 'better-than-new' restoration. Note also that, because of the possible fraud > issues, most restorers attempt, at least, to make clear when the car has > been significantly altered (e.g. color was changed from BRG to MGB). Praise > to the Concours Committee for helping to keep sellers (somewhat more) > honest. > > Your laws/lawyers may vary. > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > Sorry to come back to the car for sale. For me it looks like to be a very > nice > Healey 100 BN2, restored to the taste of its owner, not more, not less. > What > the owners have done with the car, that`s their matter and they may have > had a > reason for doing so. > If the car has got 750 miles or 75 000 miles on the clock, I do not care. A > 750 miles car could have been rusted through and through, involved in an > awful > accident, burnt out, flooded, whatever. A 75000 miles car can look > extremely > good, if the owners took care. If its got 75 000 miles and never was > restored > but kept in excellent shape with no rust, only little wear etc. then this > is a > car for one who wants to have what some call an untouched car. If the owner > of > a 750 miles car decides to restore it, whatever reason he has for doing > that, > its his and if he is happy with the result, I can except it. > Austin-Healeys are not Crown Jewelries and market decides about the value > of > each car. A famous finance tycoon, Andre Kostolany, once said, a share is > worth the money one has just spent for it. So if there is an asking price > of $ > 115000, the car is it worth, if there is one who spends the money for it. > So please leave it what it is, a restored low milage car, which would not > receive a gold in American Austin-Healey Concours. But in my eyes its still > a > nice car. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From gregwilkinson at roadrunner.com Fri Jun 17 10:58:18 2011 From: gregwilkinson at roadrunner.com (Greg Wilkinson) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:58:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] On the spelling of concours In-Reply-To: <744cd.259fd5d.3b2ccbd4@aol.com> References: <744cd.259fd5d.3b2ccbd4@aol.com> Message-ID: <4DFB87AA.5080408@roadrunner.com> On 06/17/2011 08:25 AM, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > Concourse -- place where Curt goes to work I thought that was a class one took while in prison. From peter.svilans at rogers.com Fri Jun 17 11:12:28 2011 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:12:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] On the spelling of concours Message-ID: <9703667ADD6A4064944AFB019C44B3E5@9535DEE118EC44B> Very funny, Rich. Cracked me right up :-D From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 11:19:21 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:19:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Barrie, With all due respect this is not a "black or white"... "either this , or that" issue. The first type of enthusiast you refer to typically restores and shows Bugatti's or Duesenberg's (with Jay Leno being the most notable exception) These cars are restored, shown, and rarely driven. One thing that the AH Concours group has been trying to get across to the Healey community is that OUR Concours DOES NOT mean the following... The car is a trailer queen and cannot be driven and enjoyed The car is a museum piece and cannot be driven and enjoyed The car cannot be modified discretely to improve performance and drive-ability. for example: - We allow radial tires with no deduction *IF* the car is driven at least 500 miles in the six months prior to being judged. -We allow the use of the Denis Welch or SC aluminum head on the 100 without deduction. The original heads either have cracked or will crack in the future, and this allows the car to be driven anywhere. BTW the aluminum head alone without ANY further modifications doubles the power band and gives better than stock 100M performance. (Ref. Mark Lambert's technical evaluation of the SC aluminum head.) - You can still do a heck of a lot of internal modifications to the mechanicals, that don't effect the originality as far as judging, and allow you to DRIVE your Healey. One great example is being dome on several Concours Bugeyes where the original smoothcase transmission has been fitted with all (NOS) ribcase internals. I brilliant solution which allows you to drive the Bugeye and fixes the inherent weaknesses of the smoothcase transmission. -We allow you to restore the car to the written standards of a Factory BMC car being shown at a major car show like, Earls Court or The Geneva Auto Show. This means that some of the normal factory production flaws do not need to be duplicated. Polished dashpots on the carburetors are what comes to mind, and there are others. Hell, you can put a 3.54 rear end in the car to improve highway driving, there is one in my BN1 whhich is being restored to Concours standards. If you want to find out more, contact "Mike Osipik" < mikeosipik at earthlink.net>, and order the 2011 Guidelines, now available in CD format Two quotes to remember, the first with my apologies to Jay Leno, states something like ..."Restore you car to 100% then drive it until it's a 60% car and re-restore it." Then there is my quote... "If I can't see it, then I can't judge it, and I don't care." *Have I finally made my point clear?* Cheers, Curt On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Barrie Robinson wrote: > David, > > > Having been an incredibly dyed-in-the-wool AH concours fanatic and now a > "not original" driver of a totally rebuilt MGB GT V8 I think I can qualify > to comment on your missive. There are several different types of > "enthusiasts". One of which is those who want to preserve the history and > thus dote on originality. Another type is the one who modify their car and > boots it round the countryside. The former cherishes cars in original > condition, the latter realising that originality has gone, modifies and > improves. But you have to be one or the other !!! The "crime" here is > that the owner claimed it was a concours (original) car but it was a > "runner" (albeit a worked over one). I think it has something to do with > having your cake and eating it ? The "original" crowd likes to protect > unmodified, but maybe in sad condition, cars - thus abhor people dropping in > strange motorplants into original models or tarting up with goodies. That > is why I found an abandoned stripped shell to build my V8 to "original" > factory specs. > > Regards, > > Barrie Robinson > barrie at look.ca > 705-721-9060 > MGB GT V8 in great nick > Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration > www.britishv8.org/MG/**BarrieRobinson.htm > www.britcot.com > www.AMFClub.com From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 11:27:06 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:27:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <555811955.1747137.1308326103147.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Bog, What's your point? I already told the List that the Fantasy Juction car was sold, YEARS ago. So what, why is it moot? Still a great example of an original unrestored car that is being driven and preserved by a collector who truly appreciates what it is. Don't like the thread? too bad, use your DELETE button, problem solved. Cheers, Curt On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Bob Johnson wrote: > The fantasy junction car is sold. Just saw it on the web link. Any > comments about it are moot. Pretty much this whole dust up should be > not so much moot as mute. Get over it people. Just to make sure that > you understand me, I am aware that there is more than one car in this > thread. > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 11:31:20 2011 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:31:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] On the spelling of concours In-Reply-To: <744cd.259fd5d.3b2ccbd4@aol.com> References: <744cd.259fd5d.3b2ccbd4@aol.com> Message-ID: keep this handy and forward to the offender each time the botchery is made. cheers, jerry On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:25 AM, wrote: > Once more, class, can we review correct spelling? On the blackboard I have > written several words: > > Concours > > Concourse > > Concorse > > Concorso > > One of those is the correct spelling of the originally French term for an > exhibition or contest, originally a display of newly-crafted cars and > appropriately dressed ladies, now used to describe an exhibition and > competition > among cars maintained or restored to original standards. > > One of those is the term for a long hallway such as one finds in airports. > > One of those is the Italian term for the same kind of exhibition or contest > as for the French term > > One of those is a badly botched mispelling that as far as I know means > nothing. > > What amazes me, after doing this for going on 30 years, is that people can > argue the principle of the thing and STILL not be able to spell it > correctly. > > Concours -- exhibition or contest among cars > > Concourse -- place where Curt goes to work > > Concorso -- Italian version of Concours > > concorse -- a badly-mangled mispelling. > > Now, class, tomorrow we will take up the spelling and meaning of mark, > marque, and marquee. > > All the best > Editor Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 11:40:39 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:40:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] "Original" BN2? In-Reply-To: <73cb0.6ff00b1a.3b2cc95d@aol.com> References: <73cb0.6ff00b1a.3b2cc95d@aol.com> Message-ID: Gary, As usual, your take on this car is not only amusing but "spot on." Cheers, Curt On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:14 AM, wrote: > Not to worry, since the damage has already been done. This will be bought > by one of Canepa's high-roller clients for his wife, they will drive it on > one California Mille and be discontented when they don't get lots of > respect, > get passed by the Ferraris, and wind up with back and butt pains from the > badly redone seats. Then, because they weren't Healey folks to begin with > (or > they would have known better than to pay this much for this little) they > will tuck the car in the back of their multi-car display facility for a few > years, and eventually sell it at Silver Auctions for about $40,000 and it > will > wind up in the back of a third-rate "museum" somewhere in the midwest. > Bottom line, we'll never see it again. If the restorer was, in fact, > working with a 750 mile car stored in a living room (How do you get a car > in and > out of a living room, anyhow, or is this a case of a person living in his > parent's garage with a barcalounger and tv next to the Healey and a studio > behind or above?) then he's done a desecration and won't lose much money on > the > deal. > I'll have to check it out, since I've got to go down there in a week or so, > anyhow. > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From dwflagg at juno.com Fri Jun 17 11:45:17 2011 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg at juno.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] On the spelling of concours Message-ID: <20110617.104607.983.373073@mailpop01.dca.untd.com> Yes, and they write with a pencil . On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:58:18 -0700 Greg Wilkinson writes: > On 06/17/2011 08:25 AM, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > > Concourse -- place where Curt goes to work > I thought that was a class one took while in prison. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dwflagg at juno.com > ____________________________________________________________ 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27! Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4dfb930e20b91669e25st02duc From barrie at look.ca Fri Jun 17 11:54:23 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:54:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Curt, I stand my ground! You either like to keep things original or you don't - akin to being a little bit pregnant. My first category is those who want an original car - NOT an overblown, chrome plated, hand rubbed 200 times paint jobs a la Leno. I am/was the first example in that everything was restored to original finish and colour - no extra chroming, no new modern wiring, no non-period improvements (unless had to be). As to Leno and such, they have a lot to answer for - seeing old classics with paint jobs that cost more than a new car is just an exhibition of $$$$$$. I suppose if they got Michelangelo's David they would give him a jock strap in black satin or an Armani suit !! Actually, no they would not do that but they would have it soda blasted to take the dust etc off! At 01:19 PM 6/17/2011, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: >Barrie, > >With all due respect this is not a "black or white"... "either this >, or that" issue. The first type of enthusiast you refer to >typically restores and shows Bugatti's or Duesenberg's (with Jay >Leno being the most notable exception) These cars are restored, >shown, and rarely driven. > >One thing that the AH Concours group has been trying to get across >to the Healey community is that OUR Concours DOES NOT mean the following... > >The car is a trailer queen and cannot be driven and enjoyed >The car is a museum piece and cannot be driven and enjoyed >The car cannot be modified discretely to improve performance and >drive-ability. for example: > > - We allow radial tires with no deduction IF the car is driven at > least 500 miles in the six months prior to being judged. > >-We allow the use of the Denis Welch or SC aluminum head on the 100 >without deduction. The original heads either have cracked or will >crack in the future, and this allows the car to be driven >anywhere. BTW the aluminum head alone without ANY further >modifications doubles the power band and gives better than stock >100M performance. (Ref. Mark Lambert's technical evaluation of the >SC aluminum head.) > >- You can still do a heck of a lot of internal modifications to the >mechanicals, that don't effect the originality as far as judging, >and allow you to DRIVE your Healey. One great example is being dome >on several Concours Bugeyes where the original smoothcase >transmission has been fitted with all (NOS) ribcase internals. I >brilliant solution which allows you to drive the Bugeye and fixes >the inherent weaknesses of the smoothcase transmission. > >-We allow you to restore the car to the written standards of a >Factory BMC car being shown at a major car show like, Earls Court or >The Geneva Auto Show. This means that some of the normal factory >production flaws do not need to be duplicated. Polished dashpots on >the carburetors are what comes to mind, and there are others. > >Hell, you can put a 3.54 rear end in the car to improve highway >driving, there is one in my BN1 whhich is being restored to Concours standards. > >If you want to find out more, contact "Mike Osipik" ><mikeosipik at earthlink.net>, and >order the 2011 Guidelines, now available in CD format > >Two quotes to remember, the first with my apologies to Jay Leno, >states something like ..."Restore you car to 100% then drive it >until it's a 60% car and re-restore it." > >Then there is my quote... "If I can't see it, then I can't judge it, >and I don't care." > >Have I finally made my point clear? > >Cheers, > >Curt > > >On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Barrie Robinson ><barrie at look.ca> wrote: >David, > > >Having been an incredibly dyed-in-the-wool AH concours fanatic and >now a "not original" driver of a totally rebuilt MGB GT V8 I think I >can qualify to comment on your missive. There are several different >types of "enthusiasts". One of which is those who want to >preserve the history and thus dote on originality. Another type is >the one who modify their car and boots it round the >countryside. The former cherishes cars in original condition, the >latter realising that originality has gone, modifies and >improves. But you have to be one or the other !!! The "crime" >here is that the owner claimed it was a concours (original) car but >it was a "runner" (albeit a worked over one). I think it has >something to do with having your cake and eating it ? The >"original" crowd likes to protect unmodified, but maybe in sad >condition, cars - thus abhor people dropping in strange motorplants >into original models or tarting up with goodies. That is why I >found an abandoned stripped shell to build my V8 to "original" factory specs. > >Regards, > >Barrie Robinson >barrie at look.ca >705-721-9060 >MGB GT V8 in great nick >Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration >www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >www.britcot.com >www.AMFClub.com Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From dwflagg at juno.com Fri Jun 17 12:09:33 2011 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg at juno.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:09:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] "Original" BN2? Message-ID: <20110617.110941.928.509@mailpop02.dca.untd.com> As to the question of the car being in a living room, I can relate that Bill Thummel (sp), in his younger days, had, I believe, a T Bird in his den. My impression was that he and his date watched TV as if they were at the drive-in!! It can be done. Doug > Gary, > > As usual, your take on this car is not only amusing but "spot on." > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:14 AM, wrote: > > > Not to worry, since the damage has already been done. This will be > bought > > by one of Canepa's high-roller clients for his wife, they will > drive it on > > one California Mille and be discontented when they don't get lots > of > > respect, > > get passed by the Ferraris, and wind up with back and butt pains > from the > > badly redone seats. Then, because they weren't Healey folks to > begin with > > (or > > they would have known better than to pay this much for this > little) they > > will tuck the car in the back of their multi-car display facility > for a few > > years, and eventually sell it at Silver Auctions for about $40,000 > and it > > will > > wind up in the back of a third-rate "museum" somewhere in the > midwest. > > Bottom line, we'll never see it again. If the restorer was, in > fact, > > working with a 750 mile car stored in a living room (How do you > get a car > > in and > > out of a living room, anyhow, or is this a case of a person living > in his > > parent's garage with a barcalounger and tv next to the Healey and > a studio > > behind or above?) then he's done a desecration and won't lose much > money on > > the > > deal. > > I'll have to check it out, since I've got to go down there in a > week or so, > > anyhow. > > Gary > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dwflagg at juno.com > ____________________________________________________________ Mom Is 55, Looks 30... Her clever $5 wrinkle therapy angers Botox Doctors. Find Out How! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4dfb98756008a5b9d70st06duc From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Jun 17 12:14:32 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Now "Sports Car in the Living Room"(c) Message-ID: <959645.11506.qm@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Anyone get a picture of the BN2 esconced in the living room? I'll feature it in my new book "The Sports Car in the Living Room", with absolutely no apologies to Tom Cotter's "The Cobra in the Barn" and Jean Shephard's "The Ferrrari in the Bedroom" I'm lining up this one: http://www.egmcartech.com/2010/02/09/ferrari-owners-living-room-garage-angers -neighbors/ and the Ferris Bueller car, and not to mention the old Dan Tanna TV series. And what's wrong with a barcalounger in the garage? Add a beer fridge and a flat screen and it sounds like heaven to me. OK, actually heaven would be a repurposed fire house with classic car parking downstairs and living quarters up, Sliding down the pole like Batman to get into a Healey would be a treat ... and a live-in firehouse chef would complete the dream. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 6/17/11, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: From: Editorgary at aol.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] "Original" BN2? To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:14 AM (How do you get a car in and out of a living room, anyhow, or is this a case of a person living in his parent's garage with a barcalounger and tv next to the Healey and a studio behind or above?) Gary From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jun 17 12:23:15 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:23:15 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Now "Sports Car in the Living Room"(c) Message-ID: In a message dated 6/17/11 11:05:39 AM, healeyrick at yahoo.com writes: > and the Ferris Bueller car, and not to mention the old Dan Tanna TV > series. And what's wrong with a barcalounger in the garage? Add a beer fridge > and a flat screen and it sounds like heaven to me. OK, actually heaven > would be a repurposed fire house with classic car parking downstairs and > living quarters up, Sliding down the pole like Batman to get into a Healey > would be a treat ... and a live-in firehouse chef would complete the dream. > Actually, the firehouse is an idea that figured in some car fiction books written by Bob Judd (a Bad-Boy Healey guy living here in Palo Alto) some years back. And Jay Lamm -- the inventor/founder/perpetrator of 24 Hours of LeMons -- does live in his garage warehouse in Emeryville, CA. On one side of the space is a high-tech kitchen, with appliances and fixtures made out of car parts, and in the center is a sort of scaffold structure with a living room/office underneath and a sleeping loft above. Around that he has room for about eight cars. Needless to say, he's never found a wife to share it with him. G. From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Fri Jun 17 12:28:57 2011 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:28:57 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] How to fit a Hood to my BN2 In-Reply-To: <001d01cc2cff$2445f970$6cd1ec50$@de> References: <001d01cc2cff$2445f970$6cd1ec50$@de> Message-ID: <3854245B-DC6A-4CAB-B4E4-DE7440E6F294@bornet.net> Check out the following page on my website: http://www.concourshealeys.com/making-a-complete-new-interior-for-a-bn1/ There you will find a few photos on the subject. Magnus Karlsson Sweden Skickat frC%n min iPad 17 jun 2011 kl. 16:59 skrev "T+ B Willig" : > Hello, > > > > can someone enlighten me how the hood is correctly fitted to the hoodframe > on my BN2? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/magnuskarlsson at bornet.net From rpschauss at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 12:43:41 2011 From: rpschauss at gmail.com (Peter Schauss) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:43:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] K&N filters Message-ID: <4dfba05c.0d41340a.7da4.4f13@mx.google.com> I just installed a set of K&N filters on my BJ7 and I thought that I would share what I learned. I chose their part number 56-9327 ( http://store.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=56-9327 ) which is what they recommended for HS-6's. The back plate came with the holes predrilled, offset so that the center of the filter would be above the center of the carburetor. That worked well for the rear carb, but for the front, I had to drill two extra holes so that I could mount it with the center of the filter below the center-line of the carb. For the front carb, I had to move the fresh air vent a bit to get clearance and the rear plate on that filter was a tight fit near the hydraulic lines which run from the brake/clutch fluid reservoir to the master cylinders. These filters have a stud which runs out from the back plate (carb side) to the filter retaining plate and its location prevented them from putting the mounting holes in the center. I suspect that both filters would have mounted easily if they had done that. I needed an extra thick cork gasket (provided) because the above stud was held in place by a round head bolt which protrudes from the back of the rear plate. Without the thick gasket, the bolt head would prevent the filter unit from mounting flush with the face of the carburetor. Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 13:09:45 2011 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:09:45 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Trip to Belgium In-Reply-To: <139836872.1747799.1308327018491.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <789275.9643.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <139836872.1747799.1308327018491.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: There's a guy in Holland who also manufactures Healey frames (from 2 mm thick sheet compared to the original 1.6 mm). I have one under my car. Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2011/6/17 Bob Spidell > I believe Denis Welch sells a frame now, so there's at least four suppliers > (DW, Kilmartin, this guy and Jule). > > Does he sell parts alone, or just build for his own restos? > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > I am back from a trip to Belgium, visiting family and friends, some of > which I had not seen for 8+ years. What a fun time! > > I managed to squeeze in a couple AH activities. First one was a car show in > Ciney in "Les Ardennes". > http://www.cineyexpo.be/agenda/evenement.php?id=177 I talked with the > president of the Belgium AH club, which had a booth there with a couple big > Healeys and a sprite. I missed Derek who was there the day before. > > There was a huge swap meet partially inside a covered cattle market. Since > I was traveling with carry-on only I needed to refrain to buy hardware. The > car show had a couple nice but not exceptional Big Healey 6 cyls for sale in > the 45,000 Euro range (about $65,000) > > A bn4 body in restoration on a cart caught my attention. I talked with the > gentleman restoring this car. He recreates a lot of panels as well as the > frame to original spec in a jig. As his shop was in the Flemish part of > Belgium, close to where I stayed, I visited his shop the next day. > > Next to the 6 cyl he had a BN1 getting closer to final bodywork and there > was another BN1 sitting there ready to be restored. So there's at least one > more shop in the world recreating panels and frame parts. No marketing for > this one, just word of mouth. One interesting tidbit is that the restored > panels (fenders, doors) are completely electro-zinc plated after welding and > rust repair is done, probably helpful with the moist climate. > > Strangely enough the weather was nicer in Belgium than here in LA where we > have the typical "june gloom" morning fog. But at least the temperatures in > the garage are nice this way and I have the next couple weeks off for some > serious restoration work to get my 56 BN2 to rolling chassis this summer. > > cheers, > > Bert > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/j.aeckerlin at gmail.com From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jun 17 13:13:54 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:13:54 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 5, Issue 406 Message-ID: <2b66.2c433435.3b2d0172@aol.com> In a message dated 6/17/11 11:36:04 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > I stand my ground! You either like to keep things original or you > don't - akin to being a little bit pregnant. > No, Barrie, I'm afraid that's NOT true. Every single piece on the car is a choice. Yes, there are people who argue that nothing should be tampered with, but no one on the concours committee falls into that category. That's why there is a scoring system that evaluates each component for originality and condition, not a simple "Guilty, not guilty" verdict from concours judging. You're welcome to your own opinion, if it is well-informed, but in this case, as with your view of what Jay Leno believes and does (which is not accurate), I don't think you have enough information on which to form an opinion. Why not wait until you've participated in concours, and/or visited Leno's collection before telling us what's wrong with them. Gary From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jun 17 13:38:19 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Trip to Belgium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1365964820.1757767.1308339499987.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Jack, Does he have a website (I'd like to check it out)? I think Geoff Healey wanted to go with thicker metal for the 6-cyl chassis, but the BMC beancounters wouldn't allow it. Does your car feel more rigid than a Healey with a stock chassis? Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA There's a guy in Holland who also manufactures Healey frames (from 2 mm thick sheet compared to the original 1.6 mm). I have one under my car. Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2011/6/17 Bob Spidell < bspidell at comcast.net > I believe Denis Welch sells a frame now, so there's at least four suppliers (DW, Kilmartin, this guy and Jule). Does he sell parts alone, or just build for his own restos? Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 13:52:42 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:52:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Barrie, Where is this planet you live on where everything is black or white? ;-) Seems to me there's a good Star Trek episode here somewhere, but I digress. When it comes to cars, and Concours specifically, there are many variances and the differences matter, and your pregnancy analogy does does not apply here. My take on a popular quote is... "God is in the details." It's simply a matter degrees when we're talking about originality, in other words how far do you go? I know some in the AH community that don't support our Concours because we are NOT strict enough, e.g., the fact that we allow you to change the color of YOUR car infuriates them no end. I once knew a fellow who would not use modern steel in his body restorations, and insisted on using only pieces of original panels from the same model car to repair the damaged ones he had. I said to him , "I suppose you go to England then to get and bring back original British air to put is your tyres too?" He was not amused, but I made my point. Take for example the Corvette Concours folks... Did you know that there are two separate and distinct Corvette Concours groups out there? Why? Because there were a group of Corvette fanatics that didn't think the current Concours group (NCRS) was strict or pure enough for their liking, hence the formation of the Bloomington Gold Corvette Group. These people bring originality to a new (read anal) level where they intentionally duplicate all of the factory flaws built into the cars. In fact as the story goes, a wealthy Japanesse collector paid huge dollars for a Blooming ton Gold Corvette only to be horrified when he saw the car and it wasn't this over restored Peeble Beach example. He demanded his money back and was politely told NO, this is what you paid for... a Bloomington Gold Standard restoration. So Barrie, I guess with all evidence to the contrary you can stand your ground, as shaky as that may be. I'm done. Curt On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Barrie Robinson wrote: > Curt, > > I stand my ground! You either like to keep things original or you don't - > akin to being a little bit pregnant. My first category is those who want > an original car - NOT an overblown, chrome plated, hand rubbed 200 times > paint jobs a la Leno. I am/was the first example in that everything was > restored to original finish and colour - no extra chroming, no new modern > wiring, no non-period improvements (unless had to be). As to Leno and such, > they have a lot to answer for - seeing old classics with paint jobs that > cost more than a new car is just an exhibition of $$$$$$. I suppose if they > got Michelangelo's David they would give him a jock strap in black satin or > an Armani suit !! Actually, no they would not do that but they would have > it soda blasted to take the dust etc off! From peter.svilans at rogers.com Fri Jun 17 14:15:51 2011 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:15:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Concours Message-ID: <34B9A6B2A3324281A9BB21CF0D5E6714@9535DEE118EC44B> < I don't think you have enough information on which to form an opinion. Why not wait until you've participated in concours > Ouch. Gary, Barrie Robinson has not only participated in Concours, but won Best of Show at Conclave '89 in Niagara Falls with his Golden Beige BJ8. His restoration work has been to the highest standards, and his immaculate MGB V8 has seen a lot of miles. His Aston Martin DB2 is currently being restored again to the highest standards. He has owned several Maseratis and created and ran the club for some years. He has been a great asset to our automotive scene, and is in a very good position to offer an opinion. Best regards Peter From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jun 17 14:31:40 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes Message-ID: <1892198342.1760063.1308342700416.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In all the excitement over the two low-mileage 100s I noticed something: both cars had small--I'd guess 5/16" dia--holes on either side of the boot pan floor. These holes were about equidistant--i.e., about a third of the way in from the sides--on the squarish, raised portion of the boot floor--the pressed-in, 'embossed' part of the panel-- in front of the gas tank strap T-bolt holes . Anyone know what these holes are for? The obvious guess is drainage, but they're on a raised (I think--maybe not) portion of the boot floor so wouldn't be useful for that and, IIRC, there are no pins, studs, etc. on the gas tank that would require relief. I don't think my original BJ8 boot floor had them, nor did the Kilmartin replacement for our BN2 or the Moss 'std' part I put in my BJ8 (and that, folks, is why I pay close attention to 'original' cars). TIA, Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From gmandas at yahoo.com Fri Jun 17 14:53:39 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 -- not a case for restore/resto-mod discussion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <125646.88635.qm@web65911.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Barrie, You make it sound as if the only factor in making this decision is the owner's wishes. There's more to the restore/resto-mod decision. The condition could be pristine-original, to-far-gone-to-restore or one of 10,000 gradiations in-between. Where's the line between this car gets restored, this car gets left alone and this car get's modified? That's a hard one... Yes, agreed, people lean more to one side than the other and given the same car, same situation, same budget, may or may not make the same decision. I like to think; Some people buy a car because it's a candidate for restoration while others look for cars to resto-mod, because that's what they like to do and part of the equasion is getting the most value/cost result. I hope and pray, no one would take a numbers matching car and drop in a small block V8. All, The problem with basing a restore/resto-mod discussion on this "750 mile original BN2" are the assumptions the write-up is asking us to make. We can't discuss what should have or shouldn't have happened on this car. I don't think we know the real history. Clearly, the "story" and the results don't make sense. There's some fabrication going on here (pun intended). We just don't know how much. Greg 65BJ8 --- On Fri, 6/17/11, Barrie Robinson wrote: > From: Barrie Robinson > Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 > To: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Friday, June 17, 2011, 1:54 PM > Curt, > > I stand my ground! You either like to keep things > original or you > don't - akin to being a little bit > pregnant. My first category is > those who want an original car - NOT an overblown, chrome > plated, > hand rubbed 200 times paint jobs a la Leno. I am/was > the first > example in that everything was restored to original finish > and colour > - no extra chroming, no new modern wiring, no non-period > improvements > (unless had to be). As to Leno and such, they have a > lot to answer > for - seeing old classics with paint jobs that cost more > than a new > car is just an exhibition of $$$$$$. I suppose if > they got > Michelangelo's David they would give him a jock strap in > black satin > or an Armani suit !! Actually, no they > would not do that but they > would have it soda blasted to take the dust etc off! > > > > At 01:19 PM 6/17/2011, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > >Barrie, > > > >With all due respect this is not a "black or white"... From JPayne at ThorCon.net Fri Jun 17 15:31:01 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:31:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Top Question Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED6286E@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Working on the top and have a question about how the top attaches to the rear most bow. There are 2 pieces of fabric attached to the top that are supposed to form a "loop" around this bow. On the top I took off, this fabric was glued to the bow. If it doesn't glue, how tight should the loop be, and how do you hold it in place while you struggle with the metal "u" that goes over the top of it and screws to the bow? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From JPayne at ThorCon.net Fri Jun 17 15:43:08 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:43:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Top Question In-Reply-To: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED6286E@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED6286E@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62870@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Subject: BJ8 Top Question Working on the top and have a question about how the top attaches to the rear most bow. There are 2 pieces of fabric attached to the top that are supposed to form a "loop" around this bow. On the top I took off, this fabric was glued to the bow. If it doesn't glue, how tight should the loop be, and how do you hold it in place while you struggle with the metal "u" that goes over the top of it and screws to the bow? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From sebring at hotkey.net.au Fri Jun 17 17:32:37 2011 From: sebring at hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:32:37 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] TEST Message-ID: <4DFBE415.5060702@hotkey.net.au> From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri Jun 17 18:04:03 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:04:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Top Question In-Reply-To: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62870@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> References: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED6286E@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62870@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <003a01cc2d4b$3baf8ee0$b30eaca0$@rr.com> Jonas, the fabric "curtain" is wrapped around the metal bow and glued to it. I used contact cement to hold it and wrapped the fabric as tightly as I could around the bow. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jonas Payne Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:43 PM To: Jonas Payne; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Top Question Subject: BJ8 Top Question Working on the top and have a question about how the top attaches to the rear most bow. There are 2 pieces of fabric attached to the top that are supposed to form a "loop" around this bow. On the top I took off, this fabric was glued to the bow. If it doesn't glue, how tight should the loop be, and how do you hold it in place while you struggle with the metal "u" that goes over the top of it and screws to the bow? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 19:05:48 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:05:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes In-Reply-To: <1892198342.1760063.1308342700416.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1892198342.1760063.1308342700416.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: My BT7 had about 20 holes drilled into the boot floor by the dpo. I figured he could not locate z boot lid seal so he drained the water out of it..... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 17, 2011 1:56 PM, "Bob Spidell" wrote: > In all the excitement over the two low-mileage 100s I noticed something: both cars had small--I'd guess 5/16" dia--holes on either side of the boot pan floor. These holes were about equidistant--i.e., about a third of the way in from the sides--on the squarish, raised portion of the boot floor--the pressed-in, 'embossed' part of the panel-- in front of the gas tank strap T-bolt holes . > > Anyone know what these holes are for? The obvious guess is drainage, but they're on a raised (I think--maybe not) portion of the boot floor so wouldn't be useful for that and, IIRC, there are no pins, studs, etc. on the gas tank that would require relief. > > I don't think my original BJ8 boot floor had them, nor did the Kilmartin replacement for our BN2 or the Moss 'std' part I put in my BJ8 (and that, folks, is why I pay close attention to 'original' cars). > > TIA, > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 17 19:13:54 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:13:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] County, Another part snafu Message-ID: <000c01cc2d54$fe6a3da0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Rod bearings were boxed wrong for my MGA. Should have been .020 but STD was marked on the bearings. Pays to check the small print. Moss took care of this problem for me immediately. FYI, double check everything with the County label. I had to also send an oil pump back to another company just last week that had the County label. Problem corrected immediately. Just a heads up to my fellow hobbyists. Mark From rrengineer.mike at att.net Fri Jun 17 19:43:17 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes In-Reply-To: References: <1892198342.1760063.1308342700416.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <686928.36650.qm@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Speaking of holes, I am getting the final welding repair done to my BN2 frame and have noticed numerous holes in the square tubing frame members. How do I know what holes are supposed to be there, if any and which are not? I am talking about holes that look like they are drilled flush with the face of the metal. Obviously, holes with threads and/or bosses that look to be original are easier to determine. I don't want to leave any place for the tin worms to enter if possible. Or, am I worrying for nothing? Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 >________________________________ >From: I Erbs >To: Bob Spidell >Cc: healeys >Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 6:05 PM >Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes > >My BT7 had about 20 holes drilled into the boot floor by the dpo. I figured >he could not locate z boot lid seal so he drained the water out of it..... > >Ira Erbs From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Fri Jun 17 22:38:27 2011 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:38:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net><443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <8E460863AF9848B1B1206A99B4A2AE53@LeonardPCPC> Barrie: You have to be one or the other (original or modified and improved)? I disagree. I consider myself to be both. After purchasing my car while stationed in England with the USAF, I considered the possibility of an engine swap in the future when the original engine needed rebuilding or replacing. At the time, I had an F85 Oldsmobile with a V6 engine. I did all the measurements and determined that a swap was feasible. However, when I returned to the States, I joined Pacific Center (now Austin Healey Club USA) and Austin Healey Club of America. I discovered that the value of the car was in originality. I scrapped the engine swap idea. In the 41 years that I have owned and driven this car, I have added many of the things that Donald would have added if he were still around and building Healeys today. These include electronic ignition, additional gauges, "idiot" lights above the dash gauges, cruise control, C.B. radio, high beam flasher, four-way emergency lights, coolant overflow tank, and intermittent wiper control. I have also added items that Donald may not have - John Alley Racing rollover bar, Smiths oil level indicator, driving computer, and electric supplemental radiator fan. I have not lost my concern for originality. Should I or a future purchaser desire a more original car, every item listed above is hung on existing screws or in original holes. All could be removed without any evidence these things were installed on the car. I want to maintain the possibility of having an original Healey while temporarily adding those items that provide an improved driving experience for me. Only 13,000 miles to go before the odo rolls over to 200,000 miles. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie Robinson" To: "David Nock" ; "Rich Chrysler" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 > David, > > > There are several different types of "enthusiasts". One of which is > those who want to preserve the history and thus dote on originality. > Another type is the one who modify their car and boots it round the > countryside. The former cherishes cars in original condition, the > latter realising that originality has gone, modifies and improves. But > you have to be one or the other !!! From peter.svilans at rogers.com Sat Jun 18 02:37:03 2011 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 04:37:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Concours Message-ID: Barrie hasn't responded, so I'll step in again. He has explored the question of concours originality vs. modified driver more completely than most, in very much a hands-on fashion. While his Best of Show BJ8 was done to a fanatical level of detail, with screws going back into their original holes after plating, his next project was almost a necessary antidote to this obsessiveness. He decided to build a Grand Tourer which remained firmly British in spirit, but free from the restrictions of originality. He studied the various MGB V-8 cars (by Costello, MG, etc.) and engineered a Buick / Rover V-8 conversion for a left-hand drive MGB GT V-8 (the factory didn't build a LHD one) to his own plans. Turned out to be a surprisingly involved project, with many required modifications, but the result- in its Golden Beige Metallic paint- is one of the smoothest, reliable, well-balanced touring sports cars one could find. While his list of cars gives the impression that he employs a staff of mechanics, he actually does most of the work himself, plugging away at a project over a long time. Best Peter From bighealey at charter.net Sat Jun 18 07:05:16 2011 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 06:05:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes In-Reply-To: <686928.36650.qm@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1892198342.1760063.1308342700416.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <686928.36650.qm@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003001cc2db8$5edc25a0$1c9470e0$@charter.net> Probably break line retainer clip holes. I bet Dave Nock has photos. My BT7 has them down the frame rails and also on the front cross member where the lines cross over under the radiator area. If you saved your break lines you can hold them up to the frame and follow the routes verifying them to be in fact for retaining break lines. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 6:43 PM To: I Erbs; Bob Spidell Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes Speaking of holes, I am getting the final welding repair done to my BN2 frame and have noticed numerous holes in the square tubing frame members. How do I know what holes are supposed to be there, if any and which are not? I am talking about holes that look like they are drilled flush with the face of the metal. Obviously, holes with threads and/or bosses that look to be original are easier to determine. I don't want to leave any place for the tin worms to enter if possible. Or, am I worrying for nothing? Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 >________________________________ >From: I Erbs >To: Bob Spidell >Cc: healeys >Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 6:05 PM >Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes > >My BT7 had about 20 holes drilled into the boot floor by the dpo. I >figured he could not locate z boot lid seal so he drained the water out of it..... > >Ira Erbs _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jun 18 07:20:22 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 06:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Mountain Legends on Youtube Message-ID: <355979.39263.qm@web161219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Most of us have probably seen this at one time or another, but I still love looking at the team Healeys and Sprites from the 1965 Targa Florio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_SV9FAX0tE (In 8 parts) Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jun 18 07:33:13 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 06:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Concours In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <834662.4578.qm@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> You can see Barrie's beautiful work here: http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 6/18/11, Peter Svilans wrote: From: Peter Svilans Subject: [Healeys] Concours To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 4:37 AM Barrie hasn't responded, so I'll step in again. He has explored the question of concours originality vs. modified driver more completely than most, in very much a hands-on fashion. While his Best of Show BJ8 was done to a fanatical level of detail, with screws going back into their original holes after plating, his next project was almost a necessary antidote to this obsessiveness. He decided to build a Grand Tourer which remained firmly British in spirit, but free from the restrictions of originality. He studied the various MGB V-8 cars (by Costello, MG, etc.) and engineered a Buick / Rover V-8 conversion for a left-hand drive MGB GT V-8 (the factory didn't build a LHD one) to his own plans. Turned out to be a surprisingly involved project, with many required modifications, but the result- in its Golden Beige Metallic paint- is one of the smoothest, reliable, well-balanced touring sports cars one could find. While his list of cars gives the impression that he employs a staff of mechanics, he actually does most of the work himself, plugging away at a project over a long time. Best Peter From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jun 18 07:57:39 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 06:57:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes In-Reply-To: <003001cc2db8$5edc25a0$1c9470e0$@charter.net> References: <1892198342.1760063.1308342700416.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <686928.36650.qm@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <003001cc2db8$5edc25a0$1c9470e0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <4DFCAED3.3020805@comcast.net> On a BN2 the fuel lines are also retained by the 'hairpin' style clips, though they're slightly different than the brake line clips. BCS is the only place I know of that has the correct fuel line clips (the Moss ones are too flimsy last I tried them). The brake line clips run front-to-back on the passenger side (LHD) , and the fuel line clips are on the driver side. In both cases the holes are usually a half-inch to an inch from the bottom of the frame rails. For both, the holes should be a clean, smooth drill hole, about a quarter-inch in diameter. The wire harness clips have holes along the bottom of the frame rail along the driver side. The holes are for sheet metal screws and if you scrape the paint off and look very closely you sometimes see where the threads were cut. The '750-mile' BN2 that has generated so much, uh, interest on the List has some photos of a BN2 underside that might help. As far as I can tell, with my layman's knowledge, the lines and harness are in the correct places. I don't think it would be possible to seal up the chassis frame rails completely. Your best bet is to fog some rust preventative inside (I've used LPS3; Waxoyl might work too). Some of the old tube-and-fabric aircraft like the Piper Cub had linseed oil inside the frame tubes for corrosion prevention. Later cars, like my BJ8, had about a half-dozen holes about 3/8" diameter at various places on the chassis rails. These were probably tooling/jig holes and were plugged with rubber plugs. They're just large enough to get the nozzle of an undercoating gun through, which I use to fog LPS3 inside the rails. The holes in the boot are probably tooling holes (thanks to all who responded). If my car had them I'd probably try to plug them with rubber plugs like on the BJ8 chassis (Moss carries those, now, and Steele Rubber has all sizes and shapes of plugs). Bob On 6/18/2011 6:05 AM, Tracy Drummond wrote: > Probably break line retainer clip holes. I bet Dave Nock has photos. My > BT7 has them down the frame rails and also on the front cross member where > the lines cross over under the radiator area. If you saved your break lines > you can hold them up to the frame and follow the routes verifying them to be > in fact for retaining break lines. > > Warm Regards, > > Tracy Drummond > > > Speaking of holes, I am getting the final welding repair done to my BN2 > frame and have noticed numerous holes in the square tubing frame members. > How do I know what holes are supposed to be there, if any and which are not? > I am talking about holes that look like they are drilled flush with the face > of the metal. Obviously, holes with threads and/or bosses that look to be > original are easier to determine. I don't want to leave any place for the > tin worms to enter if possible. Or, am I worrying for nothing? > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bighealey at charter.net Sat Jun 18 08:02:12 2011 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:02:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes In-Reply-To: <003001cc2db8$5edc25a0$1c9470e0$@charter.net> References: <1892198342.1760063.1308342700416.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <686928.36650.qm@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <003001cc2db8$5edc25a0$1c9470e0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <000001cc2dc0$52c25520$f846ff60$@charter.net> I failed Gary's spelling test give me a Brake !! Pleze! Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Drummond Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 6:05 AM To: 'Michael MacLean'; 'I Erbs'; 'Bob Spidell' Cc: 'healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes Probably break line retainer clip holes. I bet Dave Nock has photos. My BT7 has them down the frame rails and also on the front cross member where the lines cross over under the radiator area. If you saved your break lines you can hold them up to the frame and follow the routes verifying them to be in fact for retaining break lines. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 6:43 PM To: I Erbs; Bob Spidell Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes Speaking of holes, I am getting the final welding repair done to my BN2 frame and have noticed numerous holes in the square tubing frame members. How do I know what holes are supposed to be there, if any and which are not? I am talking about holes that look like they are drilled flush with the face of the metal. Obviously, holes with threads and/or bosses that look to be original are easier to determine. I don't want to leave any place for the tin worms to enter if possible. Or, am I worrying for nothing? Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 >________________________________ >From: I Erbs >To: Bob Spidell >Cc: healeys >Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 6:05 PM >Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes > >My BT7 had about 20 holes drilled into the boot floor by the dpo. I >figured he could not locate z boot lid seal so he drained the water out >of it..... > >Ira Erbs _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jun 18 08:41:23 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:41:23 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes In-Reply-To: <4DFCAED3.3020805@comcast.net> References: <1892198342.1760063.1308342700416.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <686928.36650.qm@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <003001cc2db8$5edc25a0$1c9470e0$@charter.net> <4DFCAED3.3020805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4DFCB913.6000006@comcast.net> Forgot to mention the battery line runs along the bottom of the passenger (LHD) side rail, and uses P-clips with sheetmetal screws like the wire harness. There's a welded-in nut on the passenger side near the scuttle for the engine ground strap. On an LHD car there are holes on the outside of the driver side frame rail ahead of the scuttle for mounting the brake M/C (IIRC), and a couple big nuts for the clutch mechanism. There's a welded-in nut on the passenger side near the front crossmember for the brake union, and holes along the top of the crossmember for brake lines. On the front of the crossmember are sheetmetal screw holes for the P-clips that hold the wiring harness for the horns, trafficator and (some of) the front lights. Can you tell I've recently went through this exercise myself? Bob On 6/18/2011 6:57 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > On a BN2 the fuel lines are also retained by the 'hairpin' style clips, though they're slightly different than the > brake line clips. BCS is the only ... -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From pete_groh at yahoo.com Sat Jun 18 09:53:40 2011 From: pete_groh at yahoo.com (Pete Groh) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 08:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] 67' A/H BJ8, needs restoration 4 sale (Silver Springs, MD) - $15, 000.00 FIRM Message-ID: <550931.11522.qm@web111606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I posted a ad on this web site for Bob. I meet him at a gathering of car guy Sunday. I have a copy of the 67' BJ8 car build record. Bob works as auto hobby and restore American iron. He purchased the car to restore for his spouse, but now she has a late model Vette. He did sell two of his American cars off of e-bay and will list this car on e-bay in the future. I believe with the extra parts will be a good purchase for a guy who knows some welding. Price is $15,000 FIRM I have NFI. I did tell Bob if he places a ad on e-bay for some of his parts, to advise me. http://www.collectioncar.com/detailed.php?ad=14321&category_id=1 I did mail Steve Byers a copy of the car build record. Kind regards, Pete Groh (KeyGuy) Ellicott City MD From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jun 18 11:14:23 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:14:23 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Exhaust Systems - BJ8 or BJ7? In-Reply-To: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <691395.81435.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DFCDCEF.3010306@comcast.net> Here's an option: http://www.ahspares.co.uk/products/productdetail.aspx?GUID=0c5fc536-f455-4d0f-8f3e-2e42c712f437 On 6/15/2011 6:24 PM, Robert Blair wrote: > Hi Listers, The time has arrived for a new exhaust system on my BJ8. Banged > up rear boxes are holed/rusted thru - just age and bottoming out. > > Would like the List's collective experience. Here are some facts/questions > for those folks that have replaced exhausts recently: > 1. I am not interested in SS system - unecessary expese here in dry CA. > 2. So steel is fine for me. I will probably paint it black anyway. > 3. We all know the low ground clearance issue on the Healey/BJ8 rear boxes - > and my rear is lowered 2 inches for appearance - plan to leave it as such. > 4. If I use a full BJ8 system with rear boxes, which manufacturer would you > recommend and why? Where is good price incl delivery to N. CA? [I currently > have a Walker brand I think] > 5. If I use a front part BJ8 system and replace the rear cross boxes with 2 > straight pipes out the back/LHS, how much will the noise increase. Likeable > or too noisy for easy driving? Fruity is ok for me. > 6. The Moss BJ7 system has an oval/thinner double pipe front box and no rear > boxes. Obviously better on ground clearance at mid and rear of car. Has > anyone put a BJ7 system on a BJ8 - did you like it and why? What were the > fitting problems? BJ7 system is much cheaper then BJ8. > 7. Any other suggestions - smart or otherwise? > > Thx. > Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com / RNB333 at live.com > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From Healeyguy at bredband.net Sat Jun 18 11:40:05 2011 From: Healeyguy at bredband.net (Healeyguy at bredband.net) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:40:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 1958 Austin-Healey 100-6 for sale - Classic car ad from CollectionCar.com. Message-ID: <1720564.665998.1308418805800.JavaMail.brainiac@apb01.clearspring.local> Have you seen, "Goldie", is for sale? Per in Sweden http://www.collectioncar.com/detailed.php?ad=3536&category_id=1#.Tfzi9cSDAjk;email --- This message was sent by Healeyguy at bredband.net via http://addthis.com. Please note that AddThis does not verify email addresses. Make sharing easier with the AddThis Toolbar: http://www.addthis.com/go/toolbar-em To unsubscribe, visit http://www.addthis.com/privacy/email-opt-out?e=WLAr3gLXBsIQ.wLOF9QblRfeAtZN1QbP in your web browser. From MBran89793 at aol.com Sat Jun 18 12:30:18 2011 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:30:18 EDT Subject: [Healeys] 1958 Austin-Healey 100-6 for sale - Classic car ad from Collect... Message-ID: <58afe.bf41ee6.3b2e48ba@aol.com> The engine was neglected when the Gold Plating was done. I have often wondered why? Any ideas other than the additional cost. Several parts that could have (should have) been gold plated would have made the engine compartment fit in better with the rest of the car. This is just my $.02 worth. Marion In a message dated 6/18/2011 1:56:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Healeyguy at bredband.net writes: Have you seen, "Goldie", is for sale? Per in Sweden http://www.collectioncar.com/detailed.php?ad=3536&category_id=1#.Tfzi9cSDAjk ;email From barrie at look.ca Sat Jun 18 12:27:34 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:27:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: <8E460863AF9848B1B1206A99B4A2AE53@LeonardPCPC> References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> <8E460863AF9848B1B1206A99B4A2AE53@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: Len, Of course there are two types - the original and the non-original. Your original car still exists. This would not have been the case if you had junked the original motor with original number and dropped in another motor - big thing there is losing the original motor. So you are a dyed-in-the-wool originality freak by self confession as all bling can be removed. As an explanation may I quote my antique map fetish? I collect old maps and one of my favourites was printed in 1486. It is museum mounted with three acid free mats, and a nice gilt frame. Despite all the stuff around it I still have the original map -all I have to do is strip off frame and stuff. Now if I had decided to add more colour (the original is pretty basic in brown and blue) with some green for the trees and red for the letters, it would lose its originality. It would NOT be an original 1486 map. Same originality standards apply to cars At 12:38 AM 6/18/2011, Len and/or Marge Hartnett wrote: >Barrie: You have to be one or the other (original or modified and >improved)? I disagree. I consider myself to be both. > >After purchasing my car while stationed in England with the USAF, I >considered the possibility of an engine swap in the future when the >original engine needed rebuilding or replacing. At the time, I had >an F85 Oldsmobile with a V6 engine. I did all the measurements and >determined that a swap was feasible. However, when I returned to >the States, I joined Pacific Center (now Austin Healey Club USA) and >Austin Healey Club of America. I discovered that the value of the >car was in originality. I scrapped the engine swap idea. > >In the 41 years that I have owned and driven this car, I have added >many of the things that Donald would have added if he were still >around and building Healeys today. These include electronic >ignition, additional gauges, "idiot" lights above the dash gauges, >cruise control, C.B. radio, high beam flasher, four-way emergency >lights, coolant overflow tank, and intermittent wiper control. I >have also added items that Donald may not have - John Alley Racing >rollover bar, Smiths oil level indicator, driving computer, and >electric supplemental radiator fan. > >I have not lost my concern for originality. Should I or a future >purchaser desire a more original car, every item listed above is >hung on existing screws or in original holes. All could be removed >without any evidence these things were installed on the car. I want >to maintain the possibility of having an original Healey while >temporarily adding those items that provide an improved driving >experience for me. Only 13,000 miles to go before the odo rolls >over to 200,000 miles. > >(The Other) Len >Vacaville, CA, USA >1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie Robinson" >To: "David Nock" ; "Rich Chrysler" > >Cc: >Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:15 AM >Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 > > >>David, >> >> >> There are several different types of "enthusiasts". One of >> which is those who want to preserve the history and thus dote on >> originality. Another type is the one who modify their car and >> boots it round the countryside. The former cherishes cars in >> original condition, the latter realising that originality has >> gone, modifies and improves. But you have to be one or the other !!! >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From barrie at look.ca Sat Jun 18 12:38:51 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:38:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes In-Reply-To: <4DFCAED3.3020805@comcast.net> References: <1892198342.1760063.1308342700416.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <686928.36650.qm@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <003001cc2db8$5edc25a0$1c9470e0$@charter.net> <4DFCAED3.3020805@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob, My BJ8 had 15,000 miles on it when I started work on it in 1985. If I remember correctly all the holes on the chassis/bulkhead had rubber plugs which had turned into rigid plastic!! I will look at my photos if I can drag myself away from searching for a Lucas petrol reserve switch for the petrol tank of the Aston. At 09:57 AM 6/18/2011, Bob Spidell wrote: >On a BN2 the fuel lines are also retained by the 'hairpin' style >clips, though they're slightly different than the brake line >clips. BCS is the only place I know of that has the correct fuel >line clips (the Moss ones are too flimsy last I tried them). The >brake line clips run front-to-back on the passenger side (LHD) , and >the fuel line clips are on the driver side. In both cases the holes >are usually a half-inch to an inch from the bottom of the frame >rails. For both, the holes should be a clean, smooth drill hole, >about a quarter-inch in diameter. > >The wire harness clips have holes along the bottom of the frame rail >along the driver side. The holes are for sheet metal screws and if >you scrape the paint off and look very closely you sometimes see >where the threads were cut. > >The '750-mile' BN2 that has generated so much, uh, interest on the >List has some photos of a BN2 underside that might help. As far as >I can tell, with my layman's knowledge, the lines and harness are in >the correct places. > >I don't think it would be possible to seal up the chassis frame >rails completely. Your best bet is to fog some rust preventative >inside (I've used LPS3; Waxoyl might work too). Some of the old >tube-and-fabric aircraft like the Piper Cub had linseed oil inside >the frame tubes for corrosion prevention. > >Later cars, like my BJ8, had about a half-dozen holes about 3/8" >diameter at various places on the chassis rails. These were >probably tooling/jig holes and were plugged with rubber >plugs. They're just large enough to get the nozzle of an >undercoating gun through, which I use to fog LPS3 inside the rails. > >The holes in the boot are probably tooling holes (thanks to all who >responded). If my car had them I'd probably try to plug them with >rubber plugs like on the BJ8 chassis (Moss carries those, now, and >Steele Rubber has all sizes and shapes of plugs). > >Bob > > > > >On 6/18/2011 6:05 AM, Tracy Drummond wrote: >>Probably break line retainer clip holes. I bet Dave Nock has photos. My >>BT7 has them down the frame rails and also on the front cross member where >>the lines cross over under the radiator area. If you saved your break lines >>you can hold them up to the frame and follow the routes verifying them to be >>in fact for retaining break lines. >> >>Warm Regards, >> >>Tracy Drummond >> >> >>Speaking of holes, I am getting the final welding repair done to my BN2 >>frame and have noticed numerous holes in the square tubing frame members. >>How do I know what holes are supposed to be there, if any and which are not? >>I am talking about holes that look like they are drilled flush with the face >>of the metal. Obviously, holes with threads and/or bosses that look to be >>original are easier to determine. I don't want to leave any place for the >>tin worms to enter if possible. Or, am I worrying for nothing? >>Mike MacLean >>56 BN2 >>60 AN5 > >-- >******************************************************************* >Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > >******************************************************************* >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From barrie at look.ca Sat Jun 18 12:00:40 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:00:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Original 750 Mile BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <006501cc2c6a$9a7bec70$cf73c550$@net> <443E53BE-8504-4445-84F8-7B03BDA96623@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Curt, You are another who contradicts themselves. I said there are different types. One being the "originality or hell" and the other "It looks the same - thus is the same". You said that some people do not support your concours standards, and the Corvette people have the same situation. SO doesn't that prove my point THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CAR BUFFS !!!!!!! AND you have to be one or the other! I mean do you have people who do like your concours standards AND do NOT like your standards? As to changing the car's colour ! How can you even say that is original. It is bad enough, but excusable, that people use two pack paint - but changing the colour?????? There is no degree in originality - it is either original or not - original colour or not !!. Now there is no harm in doing concours judging and not penalising repro parts but no repro part is going to be original. Because if this is the case then your judging would put a perfectly preserved Healey (Oh what a barn find!!) on the same plane as one a taken to bits, completely refinished, welded, etc with new identical (made in China?) repro lights, electric parts, interior. This because they would look identical !!! What it all comes down to is that your standards are not the standards of those who want originality. There is room for all types. As being on shaky ground I suppose you could say that with a 100 points BJ8 experience and the spending of 5 hours restoring a battery switch for my 1955 Aston when I could have bought a nice repro - Why? because I will have the original switch. At 03:52 PM 6/17/2011, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: >Barrie, > >Where is this planet you live on where everything is black or >white? ;-) Seems to me there's a good Star Trek episode here >somewhere, but I digress. > >When it comes to cars, and Concours specifically, there are many >variances and the differences matter, and your pregnancy analogy >does does not apply here. My take on a popular quote is... "God is >in the details." > >It's simply a matter degrees when we're talking about originality, >in other words how far do you go? I know some in the AH community >that don't support our Concours because we are NOT strict enough, >e.g., the fact that we allow you to change the color of YOUR car >infuriates them no end. > >I once knew a fellow who would not use modern steel in his body >restorations, and insisted on using only pieces of original panels >from the same model car to repair the damaged ones he had. I said >to him , "I suppose you go to England then to get and bring back >original British air to put is your tyres too?" He was not amused, >but I made my point. > >Take for example the Corvette Concours folks... Did you know that >there are two separate and distinct Corvette Concours groups out >there? Why? Because there were a group of Corvette fanatics that >didn't think the current Concours group (NCRS) was strict or pure >enough for their liking, hence the formation of the Bloomington Gold >Corvette Group. These people bring originality to a new (read anal) >level where they intentionally duplicate all of the factory flaws >built into the cars. In fact as the story goes, a wealthy Japanesse >collector paid huge dollars for a Blooming ton Gold Corvette only to >be horrified when he saw the car and it wasn't this over restored >Peeble Beach example. He demanded his money back and was politely >told NO, this is what you paid for... a Bloomington Gold Standard restoration. > >So Barrie, I guess with all evidence to the contrary you can stand >your ground, as shaky as that may be. > >I'm done. > >Curt > >On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Barrie Robinson ><barrie at look.ca> wrote: >Curt, > >I stand my ground! You either like to keep things original or you >don't - akin to being a little bit pregnant. My first category is >those who want an original car - NOT an overblown, chrome plated, >hand rubbed 200 times paint jobs a la Leno. I am/was the first >example in that everything was restored to original finish and >colour - no extra chroming, no new modern wiring, no non-period >improvements (unless had to be). As to Leno and such, they have a >lot to answer for - seeing old classics with paint jobs that cost >more than a new car is just an exhibition of $$$$$$. I suppose if >they got Michelangelo's David they would give him a jock strap in >black satin or an Armani suit !! Actually, no they would not do >that but they would have it soda blasted to take the dust etc off! > > > Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From barrie at look.ca Sat Jun 18 11:27:07 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:27:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 5, Issue 406 In-Reply-To: <2b66.2c433435.3b2d0172@aol.com> References: <2b66.2c433435.3b2d0172@aol.com> Message-ID: Gary, You contradict yourself! If the scoring system evaluates originality then originality is important and desirable. So if one wants to be a top rated car then messing with originality is a no-no - and that is what I said. Some people will cling to originality (I have just spent 5 hours in restoring the battery cut off switch for my 1955 Aston because the perfect reproduction does not have the small raised Lucas logo - (too expensive to get it cut into the mould !?) Some would just put in the perfect reproduction, albeit without the raised logo. So I maintain I am a different type (not better) than than those who would just substitute. It is a mind thing and reflects in the cherishing of the original cars. Bearing in mind my 5 hour stint are you maintaining that I am the same type of car buff to the one that just puts in a repro. Would you mark my car with the original the same as the one with the repro? If you remember I am not critiquing concours judging - I am saying there are different types of owners. Those who passionately cling to originality and those who accept substitution and non-period enhancement. As to Jay Leno I applaud his collection and saving actions but I cringe when I see a 20's, 30's, etc cars with supreme paint jobs and prefect bodywork. At 03:13 PM 6/17/2011, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 6/17/11 11:36:04 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net >writes: > > > > I stand my ground! You either like to keep things original or you > > don't - akin to being a little bit pregnant. > > > >No, Barrie, I'm afraid that's NOT true. Every single piece on the car is a >choice. Yes, there are people who argue that nothing should be tampered >with, but no one on the concours committee falls into that category. That's >why there is a scoring system that evaluates each component for originality >and condition, not a simple "Guilty, not guilty" verdict from concours >judging. >You're welcome to your own opinion, if it is well-informed, but in this >case, as with your view of what Jay Leno believes and does (which is not >accurate), I don't think you have enough information on which to form an >opinion. >Why not wait until you've participated in concours, and/or visited Leno's >collection before telling us what's wrong with them. >Gary >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From ah3000me at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 13:32:44 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:32:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] brake pipe threaded ends Message-ID: Hi, I'm removing my late BJ8's front calipers, and the nut and brake line into the caliper are stuck. The nut's threads in the caliper are OK, but the nut and brake line seem frozen. Any ideas on getting this unstuck. If I end up twisting the nut off the brake line, can I run to Napa and get a short piece of brake line and bend to fit? Or are the threads a vintage British size? thanks, Tom From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 15:19:01 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:19:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 5, Issue 406 In-Reply-To: References: <2b66.2c433435.3b2d0172@aol.com> Message-ID: Although I am restoring to a fine driver condition, I have considered each faze if the project. I opted for a smitty 5 speed, and disc wheels and disc brakes. I traded my wires 30+ years ago. On the otherhand I spent a lot of time researching the correct way to paint Around my dark blue interior tohide the ice blue showing up. As I said thoughtfull decisions. I uprated to HD8 from HD6, as I knew my engine improvements would bebefit. I reseRched the uce blue, oew paint scheme to match my bmht certificate.... I ha e waited 36 years tocomplete my car, my 19 and 16 year old sons want it when I no longer can drive it. I understand the hobby from nasty boy to 100 point shiw car. Many of us are not check boik mechanics and enjoy rebuilding what we can, and not just replace it. As zi say, there is room for all. Jerry and Donald, hzve both told me they are amazed that the cars Re still on the road, znd that we all enjoy owning our cars. From nasty boy to 100 pointer, I salute you all for keeping them on the road, and for keeping how you enjoy the cars. I thank all whi have helped me so far and in the future. Hope to see many of you at Rendazvous. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 18, 2011 11:58 AM, "Barrie Robinson" wrote: > Gary, > > You contradict yourself! If the scoring system evaluates > originality then originality is important and desirable. So if one > wants to be a top rated car then messing with originality is a no-no > - and that is what I said. Some people will cling to originality > (I have just spent 5 hours in restoring the battery cut off switch > for my 1955 Aston because the perfect reproduction does not have the > small raised Lucas logo - (too expensive to get it cut into the mould > !?) Some would just put in the perfect reproduction, albeit without > the raised logo. So I maintain I am a different type (not better) > than than those who would just substitute. It is a mind thing and > reflects in the cherishing of the original cars. > > Bearing in mind my 5 hour stint are you maintaining that I am the > same type of car buff to the one that just puts in a repro. Would > you mark my car with the original the same as the one with the repro? > > If you remember I am not critiquing concours judging - I am saying > there are different types of owners. Those who passionately cling to > originality and those who accept substitution and non-period enhancement. > > As to Jay Leno I applaud his collection and saving actions but I > cringe when I see a 20's, 30's, etc cars with supreme paint jobs and > prefect bodywork. > > > > At 03:13 PM 6/17/2011, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: >>In a message dated 6/17/11 11:36:04 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net >>writes: >> >> >> > I stand my ground! You either like to keep things original or you >> > don't - akin to being a little bit pregnant. >> > >> >>No, Barrie, I'm afraid that's NOT true. Every single piece on the car is a >>choice. Yes, there are people who argue that nothing should be tampered >>with, but no one on the concours committee falls into that category. That's >>why there is a scoring system that evaluates each component for originality >>and condition, not a simple "Guilty, not guilty" verdict from concours >>judging. >>You're welcome to your own opinion, if it is well-informed, but in this >>case, as with your view of what Jay Leno believes and does (which is not >>accurate), I don't think you have enough information on which to form an >>opinion. >>Why not wait until you've participated in concours, and/or visited Leno's >>collection before telling us what's wrong with them. >>Gary >>_______________________________________________ >>Healeys at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca > > Regards > > Barrie > barrie at look.ca > 705-721-9060 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Jun 18 15:34:26 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 Boot Floor Holes In-Reply-To: <4DFCAED3.3020805@comcast.net> References: <1892198342.1760063.1308342700416.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <686928.36650.qm@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <003001cc2db8$5edc25a0$1c9470e0$@charter.net> <4DFCAED3.3020805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <484955.85149.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I have sprayed inner frame seal from Eastwood to as much of the inside of the frame rails as I could get to. It is like a zinc oxide (green color) with a rust encapsulator. Should be enough. Mike MacLean >________________________________ >From: Bob Spidell > > >I don't think it would be possible to seal up the chassis frame rails completely. Your best bet is to fog some rust preventative inside (I've used LPS3; Waxoyl might work too). Some of the old tube-and-fabric aircraft like the Piper Cub had linseed oil inside the frame tubes for corrosion prevention. From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jun 18 15:48:28 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:48:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] brake pipe threaded ends In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DFD1D2C.8040707@comcast.net> Tom, First off, I think you're referring to the flare nut, right? How do you know the threads are OK if you can't get the flare nut out? You do not want to destroy the flare nut if you can help it. Use a good penetrating oil--soak it overnight--and it's best to use a flare nut wrench which grips on 5 sides instead of just 2, but at least use the proper end wrench (7/16" IIRC). If that doesn't work you'll probably have to take vise grips to the nut, which will ruin it, and you'll have to fab or buy a new pipe. You might want to break the line at the hose end and do this on the bench. Anyway, I'm not sure what the fitting is, I think it's American/SAE--i.e. not Whitworth--but they aren't common and your local Napa probably won't have them (someone on the List will correct me if I'm wrong--I HOPE). The pipe is standard--3/16" I think--you can take it to a parts store and get a match. The flare is, I believe, known as a 'double flare.' You'll need a flaring tool to make them, but they're available (usually under $20). Moss doesn't carry the pipe alone, but they're in the kits. This place might be able to help you: http://www.fedhillusa.com/ Bob On 6/18/2011 12:32 PM, Tom wrote: > Hi, > > I'm removing my late BJ8's front calipers, and the nut and brake line into > the caliper are stuck. The nut's threads in the caliper are OK, but the > nut and brake line seem frozen. > > Any ideas on getting this unstuck. If I end up twisting the nut off the > brake line, can I run to Napa and get a short piece of brake line and bend > to fit? Or are the threads a vintage British size? > > thanks, > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From Editorgary at aol.com Sat Jun 18 16:47:10 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:47:10 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Never! Message-ID: <5f2b9.2b95e807.3b2e84ee@aol.com> > Gary, > > You contradict yourself! If the scoring system evaluates > originality then originality is important and desirable. So if one > wants to be a top rated car then messing with originality is a no-no > - and that is what I said. Some people will cling to originality > (I have just spent 5 hours in restoring the battery cut off switch > for my 1955 Aston because the perfect reproduction does not have the > small raised Lucas logo - (too expensive to get it cut into the mould > !?) Some would just put in the perfect reproduction, albeit without > the raised logo. So I maintain I am a different type (not better) > than than those who would just substitute. It is a mind thing and > reflects in the cherishing of the original cars. > > Bearing in mind my 5 hour stint are you maintaining that I am the > same type of car buff to the one that just puts in a repro. Would > you mark my car with the original the same as the one with the repro? > > If you remember I am not critiquing concours judging - I am saying > there are different types of owners. Those who passionately cling to > originality and those who accept substitution and non-period enhancement. > > As to Jay Leno I applaud his collection and saving actions but I > cringe when I see a 20's, 30's, etc cars with supreme paint jobs and > prefect bodywork. No, I don't think I do contradict myself. I noted that the concours scoring system evaluates both originality and condition, and gives points for each, and then gives gold, silver, and bronze awards denoting how close the car has been restored to original standards. Our official concours attitude is that cars can NOT be restored exactly as original and still be operational and capable of being enjoyed. First, original tires no longer are produced except the ones used on the Convertibles, and that bias-ply tires, while a hoot to drive, aren't really safe in modern traffic conditions, so we allow people who drive their cars to use radials. So we've already slipped a few degrees down the slope to non-originality. Second, for the car to be started, much less driven, hoses, belts, gaskets, and seals must all be new or nearly so, and compromises will be made there as well. Third, new-original-stock parts are very difficult -- sometimes impossible -- to find and the very act of existing for 50 or more years will cause a part to deteriorate to a point where it will show wear, so we have to trade-off condition for originality in many cases, but by giving more points for originality than for condition, we try to discourage people from willy-nilly throwing away the old slightly-worn part in order to have a bright shiny new one. Finally, we try to encourage people to go the extra mile to recondition the old part -- for example, Roger Moment just rebuilt my cut-off switch, because I have a BN7, and the cut-off switch for the BN7 has a shaft that is a quarter-inch shorter than the one on the BT7 -- of course, no one reproduces the shorter shaft because the one with the longer shaft will fit everything. The bottom line is that you can value originality as a goal while accepting that, first, it is unachievable in a car that is as presentable as it was when new, and second that owners who drive their cars should be permitted some leeway in the interests of safety and utility. Second, some people prefer a car that is "better than original" in terms of condition or performance, so they do "upgrade" their cars -- whether it's by using a two-pack paint job on a carefully-prepared substrate or by putting in a modern exhaust, or oil filter, or flywheel, or whatever. There's nothing wrong with that. It's all part of the hobby. On the other hand, when an original car is found (as this one might have been when it had only 750 miles on it and had been stored inside since new, if that was a true story), then it has significant non-monetary value for the information it contains, which will be lost the minute any level of refurbishment or restoration begins. That's what we all find unacceptable. So it isn't a matter of being all original, or all modern and modified. T here are infinite degrees of possible conditions between the two. Gary From Editorgary at aol.com Sat Jun 18 16:57:21 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:57:21 EDT Subject: [Healeys] 100-point cars? NO SUCH THING Message-ID: <5f5b4.2d6b7fcf.3b2e8751@aol.com> I believe someone mentioned having a "100-point BJ8." If I heard right, let me say right now, there is no such thing. It is impossible to achieve. The car was truly 100-point only once in its life, as it sat on the showroom floor, waiting for its first owner (provided that the dealer hadn't yet installed his dealer badge on the boot lid, or installed the radio that the owner had requested). Any car that has a score sheet from a Concours Registry inspection that shows 100 points simply had judges that were careless or ill-informed. Put Roger Moment, Curt Arndt, and Rich Chrysler on it as the three judges, and give them 90 minutes (heck, give them 15 minutes), and I guarantee you that they will find something that is either incorrect, or no longer in the condition it was in when it first sat on the showroom floor. Frankly, I have been embarrassed in the last few years to record some scores that I knew could not be accurate. No question that the car was Gold Level on our standards, but 99.5% original? Not in a million years. I'm afraid that "Grade-inflation" has crept even into the Healey judging events. Guess there's no way to avoid it. Gary From JPayne at ThorCon.net Sat Jun 18 17:17:32 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:17:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 rear seat back/parcel shelf Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED62872@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Anybody have some good photos of how this goes in and attaches? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From dwflagg at juno.com Sat Jun 18 17:40:08 2011 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg at juno.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:40:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Never! Message-ID: <20110618.164058.999.121311@mailpop04.dca.untd.com> Gary, Can I imply from your statement: "Our official concours attitude is that cars can NOT be restored exactly as original and still be operational and capable of being enjoyed. " that the Austin Healey should never have been sold, or that all the years I drove a factory original Austin Healey, I wasn't really enjoying the experience or really operating the car? How did they operate when factory original? The engine ran, the brakes worked, the steering worked, it drove. And, is it really the official attitude of ALL concours (sp) officials? Does Rich feel that way? It may be Barrie's official attitude, mine and many others, that the Austin Healey can be restored to EOM factory specs, be driven and enjoyed. "Frankly, I have been embarrassed in the last few years to record some scores that I knew could not be accurate" Does this imply poor judging or corruption in the process? If you were embarrassed to record the score, then it should be incumbent on you to challenge the score. How else can integrity be maintained. You either have concours judging or you don't. Perhaps the answer would be to have judging for originality (OEM) and judging for "upgrade" restorations. It is sort of like telling a story from one person to another. The more people who are told and then tell the story, the more it changes until it is nothing like the original. That is why we have books, etc.. Without people like Rich, Roger, Barrie and others, the Austin Healey would eventually be such in name only. I applaud those who take the time and effort to insure originality and the survival of the Marque. IMO. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4dfd3795706c23e296st05duc From Editorgary at aol.com Sat Jun 18 18:00:45 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:00:45 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Original? Corrupt? I think not. Message-ID: <60751.156fb316.3b2e962d@aol.com> In a message dated 6/18/11 4:41:32 PM, dwflagg at juno.com writes: > Can I imply from your statement: > > "Our official concours attitude is that cars can NOT be restored exactly > as > original and still be operational and capable of being enjoyed. " > > that the Austin Healey should never have been sold, or that all the years > I drove a factory original Austin Healey, I wasn't really enjoying the > experience or really operating the car? > > "Frankly, I have been embarrassed in the last few years to record some > scores that I knew could not be accurate" > > Does this imply poor judging or corruption in the process? If you were > embarrassed to record the score, then it should be incumbent on you to > challenge the score. How else can integrity be maintained. > > Doug > Good grief! Talk about splitting hairs and picking arguments where differences of opinion don't exist. The car as originally built was quite safe when driven in the conditions of the day AND within the 5-7 years from the time it was built that it was assumed the car would continue to be driven. Neither of those two (actually three) conditions exist today. First, no one ever envisaged in that day the conditions under which I was driving a few years ago when the worn connection wire in my distributor started to rub the side of the case. I was going 75 miles an hour, in the carpool lane, on a Los Angeles freeway, six lanes from the edge of the road. Safe? Not really. Second and third, as an example of equipment that isn't safe in today's conditions or in the condition at manufacture, the cars came equipped with bias-ply tires less than six inches wide. A very good driver can manage to handle that set-up at speed, provided the tires are five years old or newer. The original tires are, of course, no longer five years old and tires are no longer made to the original specifications (even if the reproductions are the same size and shape, they have better rubber and nylon than the originals). So, prima facie, if the tires are original, the car isn't safe to drive, and even if they were original, few drivers have the skills to drive them under today's traffic conditions at today's average traffic speeds. On to your second point. I am not responsible for maintaining judging standards. I am the registrar, responsible for recording the level the car was judged at. We don't certify the points, we certify the level. I have no problem believing that the cars now being awarded Gold certificates are legitimately gold level. I simply point out that anyone who brags that they have a car that scored over 98 points is both wrong and perverting the Concours Registry system, since we try to tell people that while the levels are accurate, the points within the levels can have a range of inaccuracy. That's why we never publish the points. If you hear what points a car scored, what you're hearing is the owner himself either bragging or complaining. Gary From ah3000me at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 19:13:48 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:13:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] brake pipe threaded ends In-Reply-To: <4DFD1D2C.8040707@comcast.net> References: <4DFD1D2C.8040707@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob, The flare nut turns; but the steel tube is turning with it and I can feel that the steel line is starting to twist. The nut will come out of the caliper, but I don't want to sacrifice the brake line if I can't easily replace the brake line. - Tom On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Tom, > > First off, I think you're referring to the flare nut, right? How do you > know the threads are OK if you can't get the flare nut out? > > You do not want to destroy the flare nut if you can help it. Use a good > penetrating oil--soak it overnight--and it's best to use a flare nut wrench > which grips on 5 sides instead of just 2, but at least use the proper end > wrench (7/16" IIRC). If that doesn't work you'll probably have to take vise > grips to the nut, which will ruin it, and you'll have to fab or buy a new > pipe. You might want to break the line at the hose end and do this on the > bench. > > Anyway, I'm not sure what the fitting is, I think it's American/SAE--i.e. > not Whitworth--but they aren't common and your local Napa probably won't > have them (someone on the List will correct me if I'm wrong--I HOPE). The > pipe is standard--3/16" I think--you can take it to a parts store and get a > match. The flare is, I believe, known as a 'double flare.' You'll need a > flaring tool to make them, but they're available (usually under $20). > > Moss doesn't carry the pipe alone, but they're in the kits. This place > might be able to help you: http://www.fedhillusa.com/ > > > Bob > > > > > > On 6/18/2011 12:32 PM, Tom wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm removing my late BJ8's front calipers, and the nut and brake line into >> the caliper are stuck. The nut's threads in the caliper are OK, but the >> nut and brake line seem frozen. >> >> Any ideas on getting this unstuck. If I end up twisting the nut off the >> brake line, can I run to Napa and get a short piece of brake line and >> bend >> to fit? Or are the threads a vintage British size? >> >> thanks, >> >> Tom >> ______________________________**_________________ >> >> >> > > -- > *********************************************************************** > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > *********************************************************************** From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Sat Jun 18 19:58:12 2011 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (Jose Vicente Vargas) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:58:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Valve gap theory : BN2 Message-ID: The theory is valve gap should be in 0.12. What are the minus and plus of more closed valves ....(0.11) What are the minus and plus of more opened valves ....(0.13) Thanks, Jose Sent from my iPad From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jun 18 20:24:54 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:24:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] brake pipe threaded ends In-Reply-To: References: <4DFD1D2C.8040707@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4DFD5DF6.3090201@comcast.net> Sounds like the brake pipe is corroded to the fitting. Soak with penetrating oil, and work the nut back-and-forth and hope it breaks free. If you end up putting pliers to the brake line you'll probably nick it and it should be replaced (maybe try wrapping the pipe with leather or thick cloth). If it doesn't break free and the pipe is damaged in any way--even slightly twisted--you need to replace the pipe. You can fab a new pipe, but you'll need a flare tool and a tubing cutter. Neither is expensive--good things to have in your tool collection anyway. Making the double flare takes a little practice--buy 10' of brake tubing and the tools and give it a go. There's some small radius bends on these lines; you can buy a tubing bender--again, cheap--or carefully bend by hand, around a pipe if you like. Just don't kink or flatten the line. Bob On 6/18/2011 6:13 PM, Tom wrote: > Bob, > > The flare nut turns; but the steel tube is turning with it and I can feel that the steel line is starting to twist. > The nut will come out of the caliper, but I don't want to sacrifice the brake line if I can't easily replace the brake > line. > > - Tom ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From richard.ewald at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 20:33:51 2011 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:33:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Valve gap theory : BN2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Too much clearance = noise Too little clearance = burnt valve On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Jose Vicente Vargas wrote: > The theory is valve gap should be in 0.12. > > What are the minus and plus of more closed valves ....(0.11) > > What are the minus and plus of more opened valves ....(0.13) > > Thanks, > > Jose > > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Sat Jun 18 20:40:17 2011 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (Jose Vicente Vargas) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:40:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Valve gap theory : BN2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: But in terms of erforance, over heating, etc... Jose Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > Too much clearance = noise > Too little clearance = burnt valve > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Jose Vicente Vargas wrote: > The theory is valve gap should be in 0.12. > > What are the minus and plus of more closed valves ....(0.11) > > What are the minus and plus of more opened valves ....(0.13) > > Thanks, > > Jose > > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 18 21:00:58 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (mark lapierre) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Lets Move On Message-ID: <5875.6538.qm@web180109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 6/18/11, mark lapierre wrote: From: mark lapierre Subject: Re: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Lets Move On To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 8:56 PM Come on gentlemen. Lets get back to the professionism that you guys are suppose to represent. This is not your personal blog to air out your personal differences. There are plenty of areas for you to use for that. This concourse crap ( hell with the spelling Gary) is been way over talked for the past decade. Most of us got the picture years ago. Lets move on and get back with the program. Maybe Mark will open up a Concourse list for you guys to bicker back and forth. Mark --- On Sat, 6/18/11, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: From: Editorgary at aol.com Subject: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Never! To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 6:47 PM > Gary, > > You contradict yourself! If the scoring system evaluates > originality then originality is important and desirable. So if one > wants to be a top rated car then messing with originality is a no-no > - and that is what I said. Some people will cling to originality > (I have just spent 5 hours in restoring the battery cut off switch > for my 1955 Aston because the perfect reproduction does not have the > small raised Lucas logo - (too expensive to get it cut into the mould > !?) Some would just put in the perfect reproduction, albeit without > the raised logo. So I maintain I am a different type (not better) > than than those who would just substitute. It is a mind thing and > reflects in the cherishing of the original cars. >_______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 21:03:50 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:03:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Valve gap theory : BN2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Poor combustion chamber-poor performance Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 18, 2011 7:57 PM, "Jose Vicente Vargas" wrote: > But in terms of erforance, over heating, etc... > > Jose > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > >> Too much clearance = noise >> Too little clearance = burnt valve >> >> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Jose Vicente Vargas > wrote: >> The theory is valve gap should be in 0.12. >> >> What are the minus and plus of more closed valves ....(0.11) >> >> What are the minus and plus of more opened valves ....(0.13) >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jose >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 18 21:04:50 2011 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:04:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] brake pipe threaded ends In-Reply-To: References: <4DFD1D2C.8040707@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20110618194343.020895b0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Tom, The flare nut is 3/8" x 24 tpi (BT7 caliper) and you used to be able to find them at most auto supply stores. The nut wrench size will be 3/8" or 7/16" and if you order them you will need to ask what size they have. Check your other nuts (no... not your package) because it is handy if they all use the same wrench. 3/16" steel brake lines come pre-flared in certain lengths or un-flared in rolls at most auto supply stores. Steel double flares are easy to do with a tool that you can usually borrow from the auto shop or buy; they are inexpensive. Stainless double flares are extremely difficult to do and will destroy a normal flare tool. If you make the line run a small wire though the existing line to determine the length then add to it for the flares. It is better if the line is a little long than short because they don't stretch. Make the flares then bend the line to shape. You can buy a cheap tool to bend the line but 3/16" steel can also be bent by hand (carefully). If you buy a bender look for one that has a barrel that will accept several sizes. The plyer squeeze type is not very good. I am not sure about the BJ8 calipers but the BT7 caliper brake line has two different flares. A standard double flare on one end and a bubble flare where it enters the caliper. I believe a standard double flair tool will do a bubble flare but you need to check the instructions. My local machine shop/auto parts store will let me use their bubble flare tool when I buy the line there. Some of the bends are tight and a typical bender will not work and you may need to improvise a bender with a vise and metal tube. Also you will need to position the flare nut before making final bends sometime. I recently made up a complete set of healey lines in SS but I had the flares done by a shop. Steel is easy to work with! One caveat is that a steel line can split at the seam when you flare it and you may not notice it until you check for leaks or notice a soft pedal but that is just something you will need to check for by blowing air into the the space between the line and flare nut once the system is pressurized. John From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Jun 18 21:24:53 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:24:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Valve gap theory : BN2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001cc2e30$74ec8fb0$5ec5af10$@net> Jose, The original guide for competition work which included by the way, all the items that were later part of the Le mans kit suggested opening the valve clearance to .015". So they were a bit "tappety" as far as noise is concerned, nobody ever burned a valve that way. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jose Vicente Vargas Sent: 2011-06-18 10:40 To: Richard Ewald Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Valve gap theory : BN2 But in terms of erforance, over heating, etc... Jose Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > Too much clearance = noise > Too little clearance = burnt valve > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Jose Vicente Vargas wrote: > The theory is valve gap should be in 0.12. > > What are the minus and plus of more closed valves ....(0.11) > > What are the minus and plus of more opened valves ....(0.13) > > Thanks, > > Jose > > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 21:53:08 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:53:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Lets Move On In-Reply-To: <5875.6538.qm@web180109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <5875.6538.qm@web180109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Right on Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 18, 2011 8:26 PM, "mark lapierre" wrote: > --- On Sat, 6/18/11, mark lapierre wrote: > > > From: mark lapierre > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Lets Move On > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 8:56 PM > > > > > > > > Come on gentlemen. Lets get back to the professionism that you guys are > suppose to represent. This is not your personal blog to air out your > personal differences. There are > plenty of areas for you to use for that. This concourse crap ( hell with the > spelling Gary) > is been way over talked for the past decade. Most of us got the picture > years ago. Lets move on and get back with the program. > > Maybe Mark will open up a Concourse list for you guys to bicker back and > forth. > > Mark > > --- On Sat, 6/18/11, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > Subject: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Never! > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 6:47 PM > > >> Gary, >> >> You contradict yourself! If the scoring system evaluates >> originality then originality is important and desirable. So if one >> wants to be a top rated car then messing with originality is a no-no >> - and that is what I said. Some people will cling to originality >> (I have just spent 5 hours in restoring the battery cut off switch >> for my 1955 Aston because the perfect reproduction does not have the >> small raised Lucas logo - (too expensive to get it cut into the mould >> !?) Some would just put in the perfect reproduction, albeit without >> the raised logo. So I maintain I am a different type (not better) >> than than those who would just substitute. It is a mind thing and >> reflects in the cherishing of the original cars. >>_______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jun 18 21:57:04 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:57:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] brake pipe threaded ends In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20110618194343.020895b0@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <4DFD1D2C.8040707@comcast.net> <6.2.3.4.2.20110618194343.020895b0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DFD7390.8050007@comcast.net> At some point in your brake pipe-making career you will make the best flare you've ever made then realize you forgot to put the fitting on the tube first (or you'll put it on backwards). Guaranteed. Bob On 6/18/2011 8:04 PM, john spaur wrote: > Tom, > > The flare nut is 3/8" x 24 tpi (BT7 caliper) and you used to be able to find them at most auto supply stores. The nut > wrench size will be 3/8" o ... ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Jun 18 22:22:35 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:22:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Contradict myself? Never! Message-ID: <000c01cc2e38$83d74030$8b85c090$@net> Hello all, I've been sitting here watching a lot of Concours email traffic over the last number of days, sometimes having to hold back and bite my tongue a few times about individuals different "take" on the whole subject. First off, I know Barry Robinson personally, I consider him a good friend, certainly a caring and informed craftsman and his efforts to build an accurate Golden Beige BJ8 back in the late '80's was truly remarkable and exemplary, especially given that era of restorations. His efforts and indeed his car's judging took place prior to the founding of our National Concours Registry. I was Chief Judge when it was scored at the Niagara falls Conclave in 1989.There were no Guidelines, no set policies, no award levels and in the mists of time and memory, his fantastic BJ8 did not in fact achieve a "perfect" score. Nothing does, but it was a very high score, and deservedly so. Moving on, the theme of the National Concours Registry is to gather and maintain the knowledge, the details and the facts as best we can and record this data into a volume of Guidelines so those who choose can read and absorb this data, examine exemplary pictures and make an informed choice as to how they want to build and detail their car. We always stress in the Guidelines that they are not nearly enough to base your entire accurate restoration upon, but they are a start. Beyond that, the restorer needs to seek out a lot more specific detail knowledge in order to score a high Gold, if that's their desire. Further, our aim is to try our best to maintain a known and recognized group of experienced judges who can hopefully examine and evaluate the cars we are asked to judge. We have 1000 points to work with, which sounds like a lot, but to cover every aspect of an entire car, we simply don't have the point allotments to cover every aspect of every detail adequately. So we do our best to balance the point system. This fact plus the fact that we have the distinct disadvantage of the judges being human, will always cause minor point fluctuations in one team vs. another team judging the same car. That is the reason why we use point levels, and no judging official will ever reveal actual points awarded with anybody but the owner. The level of course can and will be revealed to all, and any set of judges will evaluate a car to at least the same level. I have presided over a couple of judgings where the points actually did amount to 996.5 points. We quietly went back over the car feeling that surely no car could achieve such a perfect score, but we simply could not find any place we could justifiably change the score, so it remained. As for driving and maintaining a car built and detailed as closely as is possible to the original with today's availability of tires, paints, upholstery, and maintaining original but completely rebuilt generators, engines, gearboxes, starter motors, voltage regulators, new 48 spoke painted wire wheels, original design exhaust systems, new but original spec wiring harnesses, faithful reproductions of original chassis, of course compromise sneaks in. Each is a choice, but a choice that is hopefully a learned and informed choice. Given the knowledge, compromise can be kept to an almost imperceptible minimum, and that to me is the kicker. Over restore? Improve? Not to where it's obvious wherever possible. The look and feel of a 1954 motoring experience in such a car? Rich Chrysler You bet! From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 18 23:11:12 2011 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:11:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Factory 110M on ebay In-Reply-To: <000c01cc2e38$83d74030$8b85c090$@net> References: <000c01cc2e38$83d74030$8b85c090$@net> Message-ID: <000001cc2e3f$4eb58cc0$ec20a640$@net> Rich, Do you know this car? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=130534576987&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123 Ron From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 23:15:38 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:15:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Contradict myself? Never! In-Reply-To: <000c01cc2e38$83d74030$8b85c090$@net> References: <000c01cc2e38$83d74030$8b85c090$@net> Message-ID: Always a gentleman and voice of reason. Can we please go back to helpful info and informed attack free comments. I for one still need informed information to guide my decisions on how close to original I want to anf can afford to go, while buildi.g the car the way I want to. Thanks again Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 18, 2011 9:41 PM, "Rich Chrysler" wrote: > Hello all, > > I've been sitting here watching a lot of Concours email traffic over the > last number of days, sometimes having to hold back and bite my tongue a few > times about individuals different "take" on the whole subject. > > First off, I know Barry Robinson personally, I consider him a good friend, > certainly a caring and informed craftsman and his efforts to build an > accurate Golden Beige BJ8 back in the late '80's was truly remarkable and > exemplary, especially given that era of restorations. His efforts and indeed > his car's judging took place prior to the founding of our National Concours > Registry. I was Chief Judge when it was scored at the Niagara falls Conclave > in 1989.There were no Guidelines, no set policies, no award levels and in > the mists of time and memory, his fantastic BJ8 did not in fact achieve a > "perfect" score. Nothing does, but it was a very high score, and deservedly > so. > > Moving on, the theme of the National Concours Registry is to gather and > maintain the knowledge, the details and the facts as best we can and record > this data into a volume of Guidelines so those who choose can read and > absorb this data, examine exemplary pictures and make an informed choice as > to how they want to build and detail their car. We always stress in the > Guidelines that they are not nearly enough to base your entire accurate > restoration upon, but they are a start. Beyond that, the restorer needs to > seek out a lot more specific detail knowledge in order to score a high Gold, > if that's their desire. > > Further, our aim is to try our best to maintain a known and recognized group > of experienced judges who can hopefully examine and evaluate the cars we are > asked to judge. We have 1000 points to work with, which sounds like a lot, > but to cover every aspect of an entire car, we simply don't have the point > allotments to cover every aspect of every detail adequately. So we do our > best to balance the point system. This fact plus the fact that we have the > distinct disadvantage of the judges being human, will always cause minor > point fluctuations in one team vs. another team judging the same car. > > That is the reason why we use point levels, and no judging official will > ever reveal actual points awarded with anybody but the owner. The level of > course can and will be revealed to all, and any set of judges will evaluate > a car to at least the same level. > > I have presided over a couple of judgings where the points actually did > amount to 996.5 points. We quietly went back over the car feeling that > surely no car could achieve such a perfect score, but we simply could not > find any place we could justifiably change the score, so it remained. > > As for driving and maintaining a car built and detailed as closely as is > possible to the original with today's availability of tires, paints, > upholstery, and maintaining original but completely rebuilt generators, > engines, gearboxes, starter motors, voltage regulators, new 48 spoke painted > wire wheels, original design exhaust systems, new but original spec wiring > harnesses, faithful reproductions of original chassis, of course compromise > sneaks in. Each is a choice, but a choice that is hopefully a learned and > informed choice. Given the knowledge, compromise can be kept to an almost > imperceptible minimum, and that to me is the kicker. Over restore? Improve? > Not to where it's obvious wherever possible. > > The look and feel of a 1954 motoring experience in such a car? > > Rich Chrysler > You bet! > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 23:16:03 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:16:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] brake pipe threaded ends In-Reply-To: <4DFD7390.8050007@comcast.net> References: <4DFD1D2C.8040707@comcast.net> <6.2.3.4.2.20110618194343.020895b0@pop.att.yahoo.com> <4DFD7390.8050007@comcast.net> Message-ID: Lol Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 18, 2011 9:26 PM, "Bob Spidell" wrote: > At some point in your brake pipe-making career you will make the best flare you've ever made then realize you forgot to > put the fitting on the tube first (or you'll put it on backwards). > > Guaranteed. > > Bob > > > > On 6/18/2011 8:04 PM, john spaur wrote: >> Tom, >> >> The flare nut is 3/8" x 24 tpi (BT7 caliper) and you used to be able to find them at most auto supply stores. The nut >> wrench size will be 3/8" o > ... > > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From Editorgary at aol.com Sat Jun 18 23:26:11 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 01:26:11 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Never! Message-ID: Rich Chrysler's last statement says everything that needs to be said from the perspective of those of us who have worked over the last 20 or more years on the AH Concours Registry, so I'll stand down. Gary From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Sun Jun 19 00:24:02 2011 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:24:02 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Factory 110M on ebay In-Reply-To: <000001cc2e3f$4eb58cc0$ec20a640$@net> References: <000c01cc2e38$83d74030$8b85c090$@net> <000001cc2e3f$4eb58cc0$ec20a640$@net> Message-ID: <8FA30CDF7C66472E8953FD0EFAB21D8E@Notebook> Is that all a Heritage Certificate goes on to declare a car a "genuine 100M"? It says, under factory fitted equipment, "heater, Laminated windscreen, louvred bonnet". Under "other information", it says "as this car was fitted with a louvred bonnet, it is a genuine Austin Healey "100M" or "Le Mans model". I would have thought the certificate would list the more important Le Mans mechanical equipment, not just a louvred bonnet (which I think not all 100Ms had anyway) What comments from the list? CHeers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz -----Original Message----- From: Ron Ray Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 3:11 PM To: 'Rich Chrysler' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Factory 110M on ebay Rich, Do you know this car? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=130534576987&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123 Ron From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 00:27:04 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:27:04 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Head gasket Message-ID: Hi Listers, How sensitive is our car (6cyl) to the head gasket? How often does it blow the gasket? Gergo From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jun 19 00:39:45 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 01:39:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Factory 110M on ebay In-Reply-To: <000001cc2e3f$4eb58cc0$ec20a640$@net> References: <000c01cc2e38$83d74030$8b85c090$@net> <000001cc2e3f$4eb58cc0$ec20a640$@net> Message-ID: <4DFD99B1.3060305@justbrits.com> << Rich, Do you know this car? >> Listing REMOVED, Ron ?!?!?!? From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 01:20:54 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:20:54 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Head gasket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As long as you have the head planed, it will usually last at least 100K miles. Very stable. On 6/19/11, Austin Healey wrote: > Hi Listers, > > How sensitive is our car (6cyl) to the head gasket? How often does it blow > the gasket? > > Gergo > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From glemon at neb.rr.com Sun Jun 19 04:25:45 2011 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 05:25:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Valve gap theory : BN2 In-Reply-To: <000001cc2e30$74ec8fb0$5ec5af10$@net> References: <000001cc2e30$74ec8fb0$5ec5af10$@net> Message-ID: <4B673A1BED634BCA8A60DF50E14A54D2@GregPC> You get a little more valve lift (like having a slightly hotter cam) if you tighten the gap. However, as things heat up and the metal expands you may not get the valve to close all the way, and hot gas will get by and burn the valve. I have never read anything suggesting you should tighten the clearances up for a little more performance, the very limited benefit is no doubt not worth the very real risk of the burned valve. Greg Lemon From Healey100M at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 05:43:45 2011 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:43:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] ebay 100M Message-ID: ebay item # 130534576987 If anyone on the list is bidding on this car, contact me off list as I may have info that you'll want to know. Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M OEW/Black '56 100 M Florida Green/OEW '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans (For Sale) '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 06:17:52 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:17:52 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Factory 110M on ebay In-Reply-To: <8FA30CDF7C66472E8953FD0EFAB21D8E@Notebook> References: <000c01cc2e38$83d74030$8b85c090$@net> <000001cc2e3f$4eb58cc0$ec20a640$@net> <8FA30CDF7C66472E8953FD0EFAB21D8E@Notebook> Message-ID: >From what I understand is cars fitted with any of the modifications at the Factory were considered factory M. So even if it was just the carbs, or the bonnet, that was enough for the designation. On 6/19/11, Peter & Veronica wrote: > Is that all a Heritage Certificate goes on to declare a car a "genuine > 100M"? It says, under factory fitted equipment, "heater, Laminated > windscreen, louvred bonnet". Under "other information", it says "as this car > was fitted with a louvred bonnet, it is a genuine Austin Healey "100M" or > "Le Mans model". I would have thought the certificate would list the more > important Le Mans mechanical equipment, not just a louvred bonnet (which I > think not all 100Ms had anyway) What comments from the list? > > CHeers > > Peter Linn > Brisbane Oz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Ray > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 3:11 PM > To: 'Rich Chrysler' ; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Factory 110M on ebay > > Rich, > > Do you know this car? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem > viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123> > &item=130534576987&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123 > > > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 06:45:27 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:45:27 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] brake pipe threaded ends In-Reply-To: <4DFD7390.8050007@comcast.net> References: <4DFD1D2C.8040707@comcast.net> <6.2.3.4.2.20110618194343.020895b0@pop.att.yahoo.com> <4DFD7390.8050007@comcast.net> Message-ID: "At some point in your brake pipe-making career you will make the best flare you've ever made then realize you forgot to put the fitting on the tube first (or you'll put it on backwards). Guaranteed." Unbelivabl!. Just exactly how it happened to me! How did You know that :D ? Gergo 2011/6/19 Bob Spidell > At some point in your brake pipe-making career you will make the best flare > you've ever made then realize you forgot to put the fitting on the tube > first (or you'll put it on backwards). > > Guaranteed. > > Bob > > > > > On 6/18/2011 8:04 PM, john spaur wrote: > >> Tom, >> >> The flare nut is 3/8" x 24 tpi (BT7 caliper) and you used to be able to >> find them at most auto supply stores. The nut wrench size will be 3/8" o >> > ... > > > *********************************************************************** > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > *********************************************************************** > ______________________________**_________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/pajtamuvek@**gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 06:48:58 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:48:58 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] brake pipe threaded ends In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tom, Trash that brake pipe and buy/get a new one. Even if it frees, it may become dangerously thin at some points because of the rust damage. It can be unreliable. With a single-brake circuit system, it is a good thing to keep all parts in pro condition. Gergo 2011/6/18 Tom > Hi, > > I'm removing my late BJ8's front calipers, and the nut and brake line into > the caliper are stuck. The nut's threads in the caliper are OK, but the > nut and brake line seem frozen. > > Any ideas on getting this unstuck. If I end up twisting the nut off the > brake line, can I run to Napa and get a short piece of brake line and bend > to fit? Or are the threads a vintage British size? > > thanks, > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sun Jun 19 06:56:20 2011 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 06:56:20 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Happy Fathers Day.. Message-ID: <5929524B48F848289F21C8F71569A01C@oscar> Whether you or your son or brother ever got this deep into it, you should appreciate this tale about Fathers and Sons and the unique relationship they have...especially when Youth decides to break boredom and push the envelope... Life as a child growing up in Oklahoma ..... Around age 10 my dad got me one of those little badass compound bow beginner kits. Of course, the first month I went around our land sticking arrows in anything that could get stuck by an arrow. Did you know that a 1955 40 horse Farmall tractor tire will take 6 rounds before it goes down? Tough sumbich. That got boring, so being the 10 yr. old Dukes of Hazard fan that I was, I quickly advanced to taking strips of cut up T-shirt doused in chainsaw gas tied around the end and was sending flaming arrows all over the place One summer afternoon, I was shooting flaming arrows into a large rotten oak stump in our backyard. I looked over under the carport and see a shiny brand new can of starting fluid (Ether). The light bulb went off in my head. I grabbed the can and set it on the stump. I thought that it would probably just spray out in a disappointing manner. Lets face it, to a 10 yr old mouth-breather like myself, (Ether), really doesn't "sound" flammable. So, I went back into the house and got a 1 pound can of pyrodex (black powder for muzzle loader rifles). At this point, I set the can of ether on the stump and opened up the can of black powder. My intentions were to sprinkle a little bit around the (Ether) can but it all sorta dumped out on me. No biggie, a 1 lb. pyrodex and 16 oz (Ether) should make a loud pop, kinda like a firecracker you know? You know what? Screw that I'm going back in the house for the other can. Yes, I got a second can of pyrodex and dumped it too. Now we're cookin'. I stepped back about 15 ft and lit the 2 stroke arrow. I drew the nock to my cheek and took aim. As I released I heard a clunk as the arrow launched from my bow. In a slow motion time frame, I turned to see my dad getting out of the truck... OH SHOOT! He just got home from work. So help me God it took 10 minutes for that arrow to go from my bow to the can. My dad was walking towards me in slow motion with a WTF look in his eyes. I turned back towards my target just in time to see the arrow pierce the starting fluid can right at the bottom. Right through the main pile of pyrodex and into the can. Oh shoot. When the shock wave hit it knocked me off my feet. I don't know if it was the actual compression wave that threw me back or just reflex jerk back from 235 fricking decibels of sound. I caught a half a millisecond glimpse of the violence during the initial explosion and I will tell you there was dust, grass, and bugs all hovering 1 ft above the ground as far as I could see. It was like a little low to the ground layer of dust fog full of grasshoppers, spiders, and a worm or two. The daylight turned purple. Let me repeat this... THE FRICKING DAYLIGHT TURNED PURPLE. There was a big sweetgum tree out by the gate going into the pasture. Notice I said "was". That sumbich got up and ran off. So here I am, on the ground blown completely out of my shoes with my thundercats T-Shirt shredded, my dad is on the other side of the carport having what I can only assume is a Vietnam flashback: ECHO BRAVO CHARLIE YOU'RE BRINGIN' EM IN TOO CLOSE!! CEASE FIRE. DAMN IT CEASE FIRE!!!!! His hat has blown off and is 30 ft behind him in the driveway. All windows on the north side of the house are blown out and there is a slow rolling mushroom cloud about 2000 ft. over our backyard. There is a Honda 185 3 wheeler parked on the other side of the yard and the fenders are drooped down and are now touching the tires. I wish I knew what I said to my dad at this moment. I don't know - I know I said something. I couldn't hear. I couldn't hear inside my own head. I don't think he heard me either... not that it would really matter. I don't remember much from this point on. I said something, felt a sharp pain, and then woke up later. I felt a sharp pain, blacked out, woke later....repeat this process for an hour or so and you get the idea. I remember at one point my mom had to give me CPR. and Dad screaming "Bring him back to life so I can kill him again". Thanks Mom. One thing is for sure... I never had to mow around that stump again, Mom had been complaining about that thing for years and dad never did anything about it. I stepped up to the plate and handled business.. Dad sold his muzzle loader a week or so later. I still have some sort of bone growth abnormality, either from the blast or the beating, or both. I guess what I'm trying to say is, get your kids into archery. It's good discipline and will teach them skills they can use later on in life. Author Unknown From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jun 19 07:38:19 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:38:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Factory 110M on ebay In-Reply-To: <000001cc2e3f$4eb58cc0$ec20a640$@net> References: <000c01cc2e38$83d74030$8b85c090$@net> <000001cc2e3f$4eb58cc0$ec20a640$@net> Message-ID: <000001cc2e86$26d06a30$74713e90$@net> This 100/M has been in the Hundred Registry for a number of years and the last two owners. All seems correct and legitimate. Rich Chrysler Hundred Registrar From: Ron Ray [mailto:ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net] Sent: 2011-06-19 1:11 To: 'Rich Chrysler'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Factory 110M on ebay Rich, Do you know this car? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=130534576987&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123 Ron From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 08:20:04 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:20:04 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Valve gap theory : BN2 In-Reply-To: <4B673A1BED634BCA8A60DF50E14A54D2@GregPC> References: <000001cc2e30$74ec8fb0$5ec5af10$@net> <4B673A1BED634BCA8A60DF50E14A54D2@GregPC> Message-ID: If You use the car mild and never race it, You can close the gap a bit. I dont have experience with Healeys, but on the Mini, factory clearance is 0.35mms, and on my road cars I used 0.25 without any long term effect. Bt if You push the car (more power-more heat), You can damage Your valve seats and valves. I dont think that there is any measureable power gain from tighter valve clearance. Too big gap can damage valve tips/rockers. 2011/6/19 Greg Lemon > You get a little more valve lift (like having a slightly hotter cam) if you > tighten the gap. However, as things heat up and the metal expands you may > not get the valve to close all the way, and hot gas will get by and burn the > valve. I have never read anything suggesting you should tighten the > clearances up for a little more performance, the very limited benefit is no > doubt not worth the very real risk of the burned valve. > > Greg Lemon > > ______________________________**_________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/pajtamuvek@**gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 08:20:55 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:20:55 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Valve gap theory : BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <000001cc2e30$74ec8fb0$5ec5af10$@net> <4B673A1BED634BCA8A60DF50E14A54D2@GregPC> Message-ID: You can damage Your valve seats and valves. - if the gap is too tight 2011/6/19 Austin Healey > If You use the car mild and never race it, You can close the gap a bit. I > dont have experience with Healeys, but on the Mini, factory clearance is > 0.35mms, and on my road cars I used 0.25 without any long term effect. > Bt if You push the car (more power-more heat), You can damage Your valve > seats and valves. > I dont think that there is any measureable power gain from tighter valve > clearance. > Too big gap can damage valve tips/rockers. > > > 2011/6/19 Greg Lemon > >> You get a little more valve lift (like having a slightly hotter cam) if >> you tighten the gap. However, as things heat up and the metal expands you >> may not get the valve to close all the way, and hot gas will get by and burn >> the valve. I have never read anything suggesting you should tighten the >> clearances up for a little more performance, the very limited benefit is no >> doubt not worth the very real risk of the burned valve. >> >> Greg Lemon >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/healeys/pajtamuvek@**gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 08:32:24 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:32:24 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Valve gap theory : BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <000001cc2e30$74ec8fb0$5ec5af10$@net> <4B673A1BED634BCA8A60DF50E14A54D2@GregPC> Message-ID: Just one addition: normaly the profile of the cam and the valve gap with "normal" use is a connected issue. The camshaft profile has a section called "pickup phase" which is to make the rocker hit the valve tip "smoothly". Soo for longevity it is the best to use factory specs if the car is used normaly. For track days You may want some extra clearance, and for meetings/going to the local theatre/taking the lucky gilf for a drive :) maybe it is better to set the valve gap a bit tighter. A clear sign if You set the gap too tight is that after some minutes of road speed, You get rough idle (or no idle at all!) with some cylinders out. After cooling a bit down, things go back to norm. Gergo 2011/6/19 Austin Healey > You can damage Your valve seats and valves. - if the gap is too tight > > > 2011/6/19 Austin Healey > >> If You use the car mild and never race it, You can close the gap a bit. I >> dont have experience with Healeys, but on the Mini, factory clearance is >> 0.35mms, and on my road cars I used 0.25 without any long term effect. >> Bt if You push the car (more power-more heat), You can damage Your valve >> seats and valves. >> I dont think that there is any measureable power gain from tighter valve >> clearance. >> Too big gap can damage valve tips/rockers. >> >> >> 2011/6/19 Greg Lemon >> >>> You get a little more valve lift (like having a slightly hotter cam) if >>> you tighten the gap. However, as things heat up and the metal expands you >>> may not get the valve to close all the way, and hot gas will get by and burn >>> the valve. I have never read anything suggesting you should tighten the >>> clearances up for a little more performance, the very limited benefit is no >>> doubt not worth the very real risk of the burned valve. >>> >>> Greg Lemon >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >>> options/healeys/pajtamuvek@**gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jun 19 08:56:21 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:56:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Valve gap theory : BN2 In-Reply-To: <4B673A1BED634BCA8A60DF50E14A54D2@GregPC> References: <000001cc2e30$74ec8fb0$5ec5af10$@net> <4B673A1BED634BCA8A60DF50E14A54D2@GregPC> Message-ID: <4DFE0E15.5080105@comcast.net> Also, during the short time the exhaust valve is closed some of its heat gets transferred to the seat. If that time is too short because of less clearance the valve gets hotter--not a good thing. My cam grind specified 0.012" for the intake and 0.014" for the exhaust (not sure why). Bob On 6/19/2011 3:25 AM, Greg Lemon wrote: > You get a little more valve lift (like having a slightly hotter cam) if you tighten the gap. However, as things heat > up and the metal expands you may not get the valve to close all the way, and hot gas will get by and burn the valve. > I have never read anything suggesting you should tighten the clearances up for a little more performance, the very > limited benefit is no doubt not worth the very real risk of the burned valve. > > Greg Lemon > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From barrie at look.ca Sun Jun 19 10:07:49 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:07:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Never! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I did that days ago. Just to confirm Rich's comments. My 1989 plaque, which proudly hangs on my "car" wall says Concours A Level - 950-1000 points. An interesting event at that Conclave was that the some of the judges docked me a few points because I had a stone chip on the bonnet - this on its first time on the road. Thus I was second to a trailer queen. I believe it was RIch who went ballistic asking why I was penalised from driving the car which was the whole object of us having these machines - while a trailer queen was not (for being trailered to the show). This resulted in changes being made. My god, do you realise this was 22 years ago ! Now back to my wrenching......down boy - I said wrenching. At 01:26 AM 6/19/2011, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: >Rich Chrysler's last statement says everything that needs to be said from >the perspective of those of us who have worked over the last 20 or more years >on the AH Concours Registry, so I'll stand down. >Gary >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From Editorgary at aol.com Sun Jun 19 11:04:31 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:04:31 EDT Subject: [Healeys] 100M Message-ID: <48390.3bab66c2.3b2f861f@aol.com> In a message dated 6/19/11 7:44:51 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Heritage Certificate goes on to declare a car a "genuine > 100M"? It says, under factory fitted equipment, "heater, Laminated > windscreen, louvred bonnet". Under "other information", it says "as this > car > was fitted with a louvred bonnet, it is a genuine Austin Healey "100M" or > "Le Mans model". I would have thought the certificate would list the more > important Le Mans mechanical equipment, not just a louvred bonnet (which I > think not all 100Ms had anyway) What comments from the list? > The factory records didn't indicate what equipment was installed AFTER the car came off the assembly line, but rather the exact condition of the car at that time. The BMIHT certificate is based entirely on the book that was kept at the end of the assembly line.Cars that were intended to be sold as 100Ms were then shipped to Healey Motor Company for the installation of the LeMans kit (primarily carbs, cold air box, and cam) and then shipped back to Longbridge for shipping. G. From fredwescoe at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 11:41:08 2011 From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:41:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tires Message-ID: This has been kicked around very often and I am still confused. I need new tires. The archives and the list say; original 590 R 15, go with 175/80/15, 175/70/15, 165HR15, 185/80/15, 185/70R15, etc, etc. In today's size terminology, what size should I be considering and why. I can figure out Michelin, Avon, Kumho, etc, etc later, what I need is an understanding the full tire size and why from those who have done it recently and are pleased with their choice. Thanks, Fred From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jun 19 12:13:14 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:13:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DFE3C3A.9000602@comcast.net> What kind of car? What size rims? How many spokes? Do you like the low(er) profile look? Are you willing/able to recalibrate your speedometer? I think 185s wouldn't be good on anything less than 5" rims (and maybe 5.5"). I put 185/70-15s on stock, 60-spoke BJ8 wheels and promptly started busting spokes. Went to 6" Daytons, which I now think are a bit too wide. Most advice says 185/70s should be on at least 5" rims, but I think that might be too much tire for the rims (however, 185/15s would probably work). More tire/wheel will mean more traction, which will also put more stress on other suspension components, esp. the shock mounts. 175s on 5" rims might be good middle ground (but I have no experience with that setup). Bob On 6/19/2011 10:41 AM, Fred Wescoe wrote: > This has been kicked around very often and I am still confused. > > I need new tires. > > The archives and the list say; original 590 R 15, go with 175/80/15, > 175/70/15, 165HR15, 185/80/15, 185/70R15, etc, etc. > > In today's size terminology, what size should I be considering and why. > > I can figure out Michelin, Avon, Kumho, etc, etc later, what I need is an > understanding the full tire size and why from those who have done it > recently and are pleased with their choice. > > Thanks, > > Fred > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From e-wilkins at cox.net Sun Jun 19 12:52:54 2011 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:52:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For the size overview... 175/, etc. is the width if the widest portion of the tire in mm. /70 etc., is the height of the tire as a percentage of the width (above) /15 is the wheel size. On Jun 19, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Fred Wescoe wrote: > This has been kicked around very often and I am still confused. > > I need new tires. > > The archives and the list say; original 590 R 15, go with 175/80/15, > 175/70/15, 165HR15, 185/80/15, 185/70R15, etc, etc. > > In today's size terminology, what size should I be considering and > why. > > I can figure out Michelin, Avon, Kumho, etc, etc later, what I need > is an > understanding the full tire size and why from those who have done it > recently and are pleased with their choice. > > Thanks, > > Fred > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Jun 19 13:14:41 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:14:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001d01cc2eb5$23ef10d0$6bcd3270$@rr.com> I am fortunate to live fairly near someone who can true and balance wire wheels and tires properly and is very knowledgeable about Healeys as well; so I use Hendrix Wire Wheel exclusively for tire and wheel services. I don't know the status of the other sizes, but I prefer the 165/80R15 tires and Allen Hendrix tells me that that size is getting difficult to find. As soon as he finds a supplier for a quantity of tires, that supplier quits making that size tire. Michelin ZX and XZX tires became unavailable some time ago. I have a set of Kumho 165/80R15 tires that I bought from Hendrix in 2007, and after 22,000 miles they are still in good shape. I have been very happy with them. But Kumho also has quit making that size. I saw Allen last weekend and he told me he is selling Nexen brand tires in the 165/80R15 size now because that is all he can get. I like the 165/80R15 tires because they fit the 4-1/2" Dayton chrome wheels, in my view look just fine with the car, and don't present any problems with rubbing the wheelwells in turns. Michelin XZX tires in the 165/80R15 size were on my BJ8 when I bought it, and I have just stuck with that size tire because I like it. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 1:41 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Tires This has been kicked around very often and I am still confused. I need new tires. The archives and the list say; original 590 R 15, go with 175/80/15, 175/70/15, 165HR15, 185/80/15, 185/70R15, etc, etc. In today's size terminology, what size should I be considering and why. I can figure out Michelin, Avon, Kumho, etc, etc later, what I need is an understanding the full tire size and why from those who have done it recently and are pleased with their choice. Thanks, Fred From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 14:36:36 2011 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:36:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Rough Idle, was Valve gap Message-ID: So... if this: "A clear sign if You set the gap too tight is that after some minutes of road speed, You get rough idle (or no idle at all!) with some cylinders out. After cooling a bit down, things go back to norm." is true then I might surmise that once again a description of the way my car runs has been made. Would this be the prime suspect in the way my car idles when hot, or are there more probable suspects? Bob Johnson BJ8 From Editorgary at aol.com Sun Jun 19 15:44:10 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:44:10 EDT Subject: [Healeys] 100M Bonnets Message-ID: <1bab5.5ce01550.3b2fc7aa@aol.com> In a message dated 6/19/11 2:14:15 PM, greylinn at ozemail.com.au writes: > OK Gary - but were ONLY vehicles destined for "M" treatment fitted with > louvred bonnets at the factory? I would have thought other customers could > specify this on standard cars. > > Cheers > > Peter > No, it's the other way around. Only vehicles fitted with louvred bonnets are considered "100M" cars. What we don't know is whether ALL cars that received louvred bonnets got the remainder of the modifications in the LeMans package. What we're saying is that all we're sure, by definition, all 100Ms had louvred bonnets, but we're not sure that all louvred bonnet cars had 100M performance options. To my knowledge, no one has been able to come up with any documentation that indicated how a dealer, and/or a buyer, specified that they wanted to buy a 100M. And if you wanted just the LeMans modifications without the louvred hood and two-tone paint job, you could just go to your dealer and order the package. It arrived from DMHCo in a box, and the dealer installed the parts on your car. Simple as that. No records kept that tracked how many of these kits were shipped (Geoff Healey estimated in one of his books that the number may have been around 1,200 to 1,500) and there's no way of connecting a kit to a specific car. That's why, though we know that there were 640 cars shipped from the factory with louvred bonnets, we don't know how many cars in the world had LeMans modifications installed. Gary From ei_timo415 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 19 16:29:46 2011 From: ei_timo415 at yahoo.com (Roy Bowman) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] 100M Bonnets References: <1bab5.5ce01550.3b2fc7aa@aol.com> Message-ID: <1308522586.4637.YahooMailNeo@web110410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Reminds me of an old Teresa Brewer song, "Oh, let me go Let me go Let me go, louvre" I don't believe I said it, either. Roy Bowman BJ8 28985 From: "Editorgary at aol.com" To: greylinn at ozemail.com.au; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M Bonnets In a message dated 6/19/11 2:14:15 PM, greylinn at ozemail.com.au writes: > OK Gary - but were ONLY vehicles destined for "M" treatment fitted with > louvred bonnets at the factory? I would have thought other customers could > specify this on standard cars. > > Cheers > > Peter > No, it's the other way around. Only vehicles fitted with louvred bonnets are considered "100M" cars. What we don't know is whether ALL cars that received louvred bonnets got the remainder of the modifications in the LeMans package. What we're saying is that all we're sure, by definition, all 100Ms had louvred bonnets, but we're not sure that all louvred bonnet cars had 100M performance options. To my knowledge, no one has been able to come up with any documentation that indicated how a dealer, and/or a buyer, specified that they wanted to buy a 100M. And if you wanted just the LeMans modifications without the louvred hood and two-tone paint job, you could just go to your dealer and order the package. It arrived from DMHCo in a box, and the dealer installed the parts on your car. Simple as that. No records kept that tracked how many of these kits were shipped (Geoff Healey estimated in one of his books that the number may have been around 1,200 to 1,500) and there's no way of connecting a kit to a specific car. That's why, though we know that there were 640 cars shipped from the factory with louvred bonnets, we don't know how many cars in the world had LeMans modifications installed. Gary _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ei_timo415 at yahoo.com From Healey100M at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 16:40:25 2011 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:40:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Bonnets In-Reply-To: <1bab5.5ce01550.3b2fc7aa@aol.com> References: <1bab5.5ce01550.3b2fc7aa@aol.com> Message-ID: Since 640 cars where taken from Longbridge and sent to Warwick to have the Le Mans performance package installed (and subsequently returned to Longbridge for dispatch), wouldn't it be fairly safe to "assume" that these 640 had the full package installed since Donald Healey was getting paid to make this upgrade? I'm just referring to the 640 cars. I realize there is no way to prove or disprove it. Randy On Jun 19, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > What we don't know is whether ALL cars that > received louvred bonnets got the remainder of the modifications in the LeMans > package. What we're saying is that all we're sure, by definition, all 100Ms had > louvred bonnets, but we're not sure that all louvred bonnet cars had 100M > performance options. From Editorgary at aol.com Sun Jun 19 17:21:24 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:21:24 EDT Subject: [Healeys] 100M Bonnets Message-ID: <1d92f.8929ba4.3b2fde74@aol.com> In a message dated 6/19/11 3:40:28 PM, Healey100M at gmail.com writes: > Since 640 cars where taken from Longbridge and sent to Warwick to have > the Le Mans performance package installed (and subsequently returned to > Longbridge for dispatch), wouldn't it be fairly safe to "assume" that these 640 > had the full package installed since Donald Healey was getting paid to make > this upgrade? I'm just referring to the 640 cars. > Ah, there's the rub. We have no way of knowing whether all 640 went to Warwick, because apparently DHMCo didn't keep careful records of how many cars from the factory they converted. All we know is what we glean from the factory production build cards, and all they indicate is that the car was received at Longbridge from Jensen's with a louvred hood. Gary From ghess4 at cox.net Sun Jun 19 17:47:10 2011 From: ghess4 at cox.net (Ghess4) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:47:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Greetings Message-ID: Hello Martin, I think that you are right about the bashing (I would call it childish) of you and your company, by one individual, generating more business for you. I have gotten a couple of calls from engineering friends wondering whether the "basher" is out of his mind and whether he knows anything about metallurgy. Actually the reason I'm putting this on the List is to pass along compliments of list members who have seen my Jule frame and driven my car. Everyone who drives it quickly develop a lead foot because it feels so stable. I sometimes have to tell them to take it a little easier! It is also great that I can put it on my lift and place the support pads anywhere I like and I can still close and open the doors without any flexing what so ever. I have a set of 3.54 gears on order and am sure looking forward to getting them in. We thank you for the fine Jule Frame. Hope to see you somewhere this year. Best Regards Gale Hess From pennell at cox.net Sun Jun 19 18:00:38 2011 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:00:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tires In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110619200038.GRI9G.815003.imail@eastrmwml32> Fred, This has recommended by many on the list before and maybe you have seen it, but it is very helpful comparing actual sizes. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html Keith ---- Fred Wescoe wrote: > This has been kicked around very often and I am still confused. > > I need new tires. > > The archives and the list say; original 590 R 15, go with 175/80/15, > 175/70/15, 165HR15, 185/80/15, 185/70R15, etc, etc. > > In today's size terminology, what size should I be considering and why. > > I can figure out Michelin, Avon, Kumho, etc, etc later, what I need is an > understanding the full tire size and why from those who have done it > recently and are pleased with their choice. > > Thanks, > > Fred > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pennell at cox.net From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jun 19 19:15:40 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:15:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Bonnets In-Reply-To: References: <1bab5.5ce01550.3b2fc7aa@aol.com> Message-ID: <000501cc2ee7$91e1a8f0$b5a4fad0$@net> Apparently not all conversions at Warwick received the higher compression pistons. This would make sense depending perhaps where in the world the car was destined for. Geoff claimed that the output with full kit but standard compression pistons was about 103 HP. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randy Hicks Sent: 2011-06-19 6:40 To: Editorgary at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M Bonnets Since 640 cars where taken from Longbridge and sent to Warwick to have the Le Mans performance package installed (and subsequently returned to Longbridge for dispatch), wouldn't it be fairly safe to "assume" that these 640 had the full package installed since Donald Healey was getting paid to make this upgrade? I'm just referring to the 640 cars. I realize there is no way to prove or disprove it. Randy On Jun 19, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > What we don't know is whether ALL cars that > received louvred bonnets got the remainder of the modifications in the LeMans > package. What we're saying is that all we're sure, by definition, all 100Ms had > louvred bonnets, but we're not sure that all louvred bonnet cars had 100M > performance options. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 19:18:04 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:18:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Moss harness question bt7 Message-ID: I am installing new Moss harness in my early bt7. I am putting in a complete pentronix dizzy. The harness wires near the coil generator area, do not match the either schematics I have. Dizzy has two wires red and black. Then I have yellow and yellow and green stripe wire from harness I can not fugure out. Schematic says brown/yelkow and brown/green. Which THE harness does not have. So how do I hook up dizzy and generator? Can send photos. Thanks Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From linwoodrose at mac.com Sun Jun 19 19:38:59 2011 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (Linwood H Rose) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:38:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Jule Frame - Part One Message-ID: <2A8B272B-5F03-464C-89BB-B9361DC8F1E2@mac.com> I hate to get in this, as I have chosen not to do so when the subject has come up previously. However, let me just say that IF you are willing to sacrifice originality and you want a great (as in rock solid stability) ride with zero scuttle shake, then Marty's frame is a wonderful way to go. I cannot compare it to other contemporary options that are on the market - I can compare it to MY original BT7. Without equivocation I can say that the ride is significantly improved. For me the true test of these things is the answer to the question: would you do it again? The answer from me is "yes." In my opinion, the frame change doesn't make the car better or worse - it makes it different. And for me, perhaps not for you, different is better. You see, I think that great answer to most all questions works here, too. That answer is, "It all depends." In this case it all depends on you and what you want, and isn't that the real beauty of these cars and of this hobby? Lin Lin Rose 1959 AN5 Bugeye - pure driving enjoyment, go-kart with a body. 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" - owned since 1971, my first car and still have it! 1964 Jag MKII - current project From linwoodrose at mac.com Sun Jun 19 19:39:01 2011 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (Linwood H Rose) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:39:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Jule Frame - Part two Message-ID: <4AD335A1-45F7-45F8-994D-BC98FF66352B@mac.com> I enjoy perfectly original cars that have been well cared for. I enjoy radically modified Healeys, and I enjoy slightly personalized Healeys. I like Healey Blue, BRG, OEW, Florida Green, Spruce Green and Pacific Green. I like a really good black one too, but mine are both RED! My wife really likes those modern roll-up windows and the pull-up convertible top, but mine are roadsters with side curtains! Finally, I really like Healey people who love originality. They are dedicated to the hobby (or profession), and typically they can be really, really helpful. I called on one of my very favorites, Rich Chrysler, with a question just today and he had an answer for me in minutes. You know what, he didn't ask me if I was working on "an as original car" or not? I once prepared an article on the rebuild of the control head (trafficator) and Roger Moment was the go to guy, ready to lend a helpful assist. Then again, I love Healey people who modify their cars to suit THEIR tastes while remaining true to what I will call a "Healey Spirit." Steve Thomton, Mick Nordquist, Rick Neville, Steve Gerow, Randy Forbes, Rich Grauman, Tim Moran, Udo Putzke and Mike Oritt come to mind. I could have named many other people in both of these categories (and sub-categories). Heaven only knows how much I have benefitted from all of these people. I am thankful to you all. I even try to share what I have learned from time to time to keep this automotive interest going. So.... Cheers and thanks. Lin Lin Rose 1959 AN5 Bugeye - pure driving enjoyment, go-kart with a body. 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" - owned since 1971, my first car and still have it! 1964 Jag MKII - current project From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sun Jun 19 19:56:51 2011 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:56:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?tires?= Message-ID: <20110620015651.10208.qmail@server278.com> try to find 175/15 tires. i heard they quit making them a few years ago. hjim From npaul72464 at aol.com Sun Jun 19 19:57:00 2011 From: npaul72464 at aol.com (npaul72464 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Tires In-Reply-To: <001d01cc2eb5$23ef10d0$6bcd3270$@rr.com> References: <001d01cc2eb5$23ef10d0$6bcd3270$@rr.com> Message-ID: <8CDFD047A736926-1EC4-67048@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> I just put a set of Nexen 165 80R 15 tires on my BN7 and am happy with them. Got them on line from Tireseasy.com. Under $60 per tire & free shipping. Ned Paulsen Webster, NY -----Original Message----- From: BJ8 Healeys To: healeys Sent: Sun, Jun 19, 2011 3:44 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires I am fortunate to live fairly near someone who can true and balance wire wheels and tires properly and is very knowledgeable about Healeys as well; so I use Hendrix Wire Wheel exclusively for tire and wheel services. I don't know the status of the other sizes, but I prefer the 165/80R15 tires and Allen Hendrix tells me that that size is getting difficult to find. As soon as he finds a supplier for a quantity of tires, that supplier quits making that size tire. Michelin ZX and XZX tires became unavailable some time ago. I have a set of Kumho 165/80R15 tires that I bought from Hendrix in 2007, and after 22,000 miles they are still in good shape. I have been very happy with them. But Kumho also has quit making that size. I saw Allen last weekend and he told me he is selling Nexen brand tires in the 165/80R15 size now because that is all he can get. I like the 165/80R15 tires because they fit the 4-1/2" Dayton chrome wheels, in my view look just fine with the car, and don't present any problems with rubbing the wheelwells in turns. Michelin XZX tires in the 165/80R15 size were on my BJ8 when I bought it, and I have just stuck with that size tire because I like it. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 1:41 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Tires This has been kicked around very often and I am still confused. I need new tires. The archives and the list say; original 590 R 15, go with 175/80/15, 175/70/15, 165HR15, 185/80/15, 185/70R15, etc, etc. In today's size terminology, what size should I be considering and why. I can figure out Michelin, Avon, Kumho, etc, etc later, what I need is an understanding the full tire size and why from those who have done it recently and are pleased with their choice. Thanks, Fred _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/npaul72464 at aol.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 20:02:45 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:02:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] rendezvous to conclave Message-ID: If you are going from Rendezvous to Conclave and can transport a flywheel and clutch cover/disc, please contact me off list. Thanks -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sun Jun 19 20:13:56 2011 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:13:56 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Jule Frame - Part two In-Reply-To: <4AD335A1-45F7-45F8-994D-BC98FF66352B@mac.com> References: <4AD335A1-45F7-45F8-994D-BC98FF66352B@mac.com> Message-ID: Lin Well said. Best wishes Patrick Quinn -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linwood H Rose Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 11:39 AM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] Jule Frame - Part two I enjoy perfectly original cars that have been well cared for. I enjoy radically modified Healeys, and I enjoy slightly personalized Healeys. I like Healey Blue, BRG, OEW, Florida Green, Spruce Green and Pacific Green. I like a really good black one too, but mine are both RED! My wife really likes those modern roll-up windows and the pull-up convertible top, but mine are roadsters with side curtains! Finally, I really like Healey people who love originality. They are dedicated to the hobby (or profession), and typically they can be really, really helpful. I called on one of my very favorites, Rich Chrysler, with a question just today and he had an answer for me in minutes. You know what, he didn't ask me if I was working on "an as original car" or not? I once prepared an article on the rebuild of the control head (trafficator) and Roger Moment was the go to guy, ready to lend a helpful assist. Then again, I love Healey people who modify their cars to suit THEIR tastes while remaining true to what I will call a "Healey Spirit." Steve Thomton, Mick Nordquist, Rick Neville, Steve Gerow, Randy Forbes, Rich Grauman, Tim Moran, Udo Putzke and Mike Oritt come to mind. I could have named many other people in both of these categories (and sub-categories). Heaven only knows how much I have benefitted from all of these people. I am thankful to you all. I even try to share what I have learned from time to time to keep this automotive interest going. So.... Cheers and thanks. Lin Lin Rose 1959 AN5 Bugeye - pure driving enjoyment, go-kart with a body. 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" - owned since 1971, my first car and still have it! 1964 Jag MKII - current project _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 20:44:24 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:44:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Land Rover diesel question Message-ID: If you know about cold start system on a Series LR please notify off list. Have posted on LR sites, but need more info. Now return to usual bickering, help and general good humored bantering about Healey related topics. Thanks Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From neilandcustom at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 21:16:52 2011 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:16:52 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] tires In-Reply-To: <20110620015651.10208.qmail@server278.com> References: <20110620015651.10208.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <000301cc2ef8$82c41f40$884c5dc0$@com> Here is one manufacturer that apparently hasn't. https://www.universaltire.com/vredestein/175-70hr15-vredestein-sprint-classi c-blackwall.html Neil Anderson '60 BT7 "try to find 175/15 tires. i heard they quit making them a few years ago." hjim _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 21:51:15 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:51:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Lets Move On In-Reply-To: References: <5875.6538.qm@web180109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mark and Ira, This is a Healey list and as such this topic is as valid as any other, so this IS "the program" Mark. Please use the delete button if you do not like the topic. No one is forcing you to read any discussions on Concours. Cheers, Curt On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 8:53 PM, I Erbs wrote: > Right on > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > > On Jun 18, 2011 8:26 PM, "mark lapierre" wrote: > > --- On Sat, 6/18/11, mark lapierre wrote: > > > > > > From: mark lapierre > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Lets Move On > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 8:56 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Come on gentlemen. Lets get back to the professionism that you guys are > > suppose to represent. This is not your personal blog to air out your > > personal differences. There are > > plenty of areas for you to use for that. This concourse crap ( hell with > the > > spelling Gary) > > is been way over talked for the past decade. Most of us got the picture > > years ago. Lets move on and get back with the program. > > > > Maybe Mark will open up a Concourse list for you guys to bicker back and > > forth. > > > > Mark > > > > --- On Sat, 6/18/11, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > > > > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > Subject: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Never! > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 6:47 PM > > > > > >> Gary, > >> > >> You contradict yourself! If the scoring system evaluates > >> originality then originality is important and desirable. So if one > >> wants to be a top rated car then messing with originality is a no-no > >> - and that is what I said. Some people will cling to originality > >> (I have just spent 5 hours in restoring the battery cut off switch > >> for my 1955 Aston because the perfect reproduction does not have the > >> small raised Lucas logo - (too expensive to get it cut into the mould > >> !?) Some would just put in the perfect reproduction, albeit without > >> the raised logo. So I maintain I am a different type (not better) > >> than than those who would just substitute. It is a mind thing and > >> reflects in the cherishing of the original cars. > >>_______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Sun Jun 19 22:18:08 2011 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (Jose Vicente Vargas) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:18:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] tires In-Reply-To: <000301cc2ef8$82c41f40$884c5dc0$@com> References: <20110620015651.10208.qmail@server278.com> <000301cc2ef8$82c41f40$884c5dc0$@com> Message-ID: I have vresdestein tires and couldnt be happier Excelent handling on my bn2 Sent from my iPad On Jun 19, 2011, at 10:16 PM, "Neil Anderson" wrote: > Here is one manufacturer that apparently hasn't. > > https://www.universaltire.com/vredestein/175-70hr15-vredestein-sprint-classi > c-blackwall.html > > Neil Anderson > '60 BT7 > > > "try to find 175/15 tires. i heard they quit making them a few years ago." > hjim > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 22:23:37 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:23:37 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Moss harness question bt7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ira - Yellow wires are typically attach to your generator. Regards, Alan On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:18 AM, I Erbs wrote: > I am installing new Moss harness in my early bt7. > > I am putting in a complete pentronix dizzy. The harness wires near the coil > generator area, do not match the either schematics I have. Dizzy has two > wires red and black. Then I have yellow and yellow and green stripe wire > from harness I can not fugure out. Schematic says brown/yelkow and > brown/green. Which THE harness does not have. > So how do I hook up dizzy and generator? > Can send photos. > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 22:27:04 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:27:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Moss harness question bt7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I thought so, but they are not in the schematic. Do you know which goes to positive? negative? Thanks On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Ira - > > Yellow wires are typically attach to your generator. > > Regards, > > Alan > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:18 AM, I Erbs wrote: > >> I am installing new Moss harness in my early bt7. >> >> I am putting in a complete pentronix dizzy. The harness wires near the >> coil >> generator area, do not match the either schematics I have. Dizzy has two >> wires red and black. Then I have yellow and yellow and green stripe wire >> from harness I can not fugure out. Schematic says brown/yelkow and >> brown/green. Which THE harness does not have. >> So how do I hook up dizzy and generator? >> Can send photos. >> Thanks >> >> Ira Erbs >> IT Consultant >> Portland, OR >> >> sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections >> because >> my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> > > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From rnbmail at yahoo.com Sun Jun 19 22:36:05 2011 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Tires In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <455574.17943.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Fred, My experience says: 1. For 4 1/2 inch wheels [stock] go with 175HRx15 IF you can find anything. 2. For 5 inch wheels [me] go with 185HRx15. NOT 185HR/70/15 - the 70 profile [ie the ratio of 0.7 is width to height] looks too fat and too modern - ie mustang like. 3. In both cases the 165HRx15 is too small in my opinion [in actual radius, and in actual cross section and visually - especially on a BJ8 with the higher back end. I went with 185x15 Vreds - happy with them and not expensive. There will be about 100 opinions on this question - always is....good luck choosing :-). Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com --- On Sun, 6/19/11, Fred Wescoe wrote: > From: Fred Wescoe > Subject: [Healeys] Tires > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011, 10:41 AM > This has been kicked around very > often and I am still confused. > > I need new tires. > > The archives and the list say; original 590 R 15, go with > 175/80/15, > 175/70/15, 165HR15, 185/80/15, 185/70R15, etc, etc. > > In today's size terminology, what size should I be > considering and why. > > I can figure out Michelin, Avon, Kumho, etc, etc later, > what I need is an > understanding the full tire size and why from those who > have done it > recently and are pleased with their choice. > > Thanks, > > Fred > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rnbmail at yahoo.com From rnbmail at yahoo.com Sun Jun 19 22:44:33 2011 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] tires - not quite. In-Reply-To: <000301cc2ef8$82c41f40$884c5dc0$@com> Message-ID: <543264.99774.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, but these are low profile 70s - not the ideal 175HRx15. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com --- On Sun, 6/19/11, Neil Anderson wrote: > From: Neil Anderson > Subject: Re: [Healeys] tires > To: healeymanjim at hansencc.net, healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011, 8:16 PM > Here is one manufacturer that > apparently hasn't. > > https://www.universaltire.com/vredestein/175-70hr15-vredestein-sprint-classi > c-blackwall.html > > Neil Anderson > '60 BT7 > > > "try to find 175/15 tires. i heard they quit making > them a few years ago." > hjim > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rnbmail at yahoo.com From glemon at neb.rr.com Sun Jun 19 23:34:05 2011 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 00:34:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Moss harness question bt7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77DF792B08184287BEB1CC843543CC90@GregPC> This shows yellow going to generatpr does that help? The terminal spades should be a different size, one would hope the makers of the harness would get that right. http://www.austin-healeys.com/100-6diagram.jpg On the dizzy is your car positive or negative ground? (I know + positive originally, but many convert) Greg L. ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Erbs" To: "Alan Seigrist" ; "healey help" Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss harness question bt7 >I thought so, but they are not in the schematic. Do you know which goes to > positive? negative? > Thanks > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Alan Seigrist > wrote: > >> Ira - >> >> Yellow wires are typically attach to your generator. >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:18 AM, I Erbs wrote: >> >>> I am installing new Moss harness in my early bt7. >>> >>> I am putting in a complete pentronix dizzy. The harness wires near the >>> coil >>> generator area, do not match the either schematics I have. Dizzy has two >>> wires red and black. Then I have yellow and yellow and green stripe >>> wire >>> from harness I can not fugure out. Schematic says brown/yelkow and >>> brown/green. Which THE harness does not have. >>> So how do I hook up dizzy and generator? >>> Can send photos. >>> Thanks >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> IT Consultant >>> Portland, OR >>> >>> sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections >>> because >>> my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage : >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>> >> >> > > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/glemon at neb.rr.com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 01:05:09 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:05:09 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Jule Frame - Part two In-Reply-To: References: <4AD335A1-45F7-45F8-994D-BC98FF66352B@mac.com> Message-ID: Great Post Lin, totally agree with everything you said. BTW - I'm now using your article to recondition and rebuild my trafficator since I uncecessarily and accidently dismantled it in my attempts to access the wiring when changing my wheel!! cheers Derek On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > Lin > > Well said. > > Best wishes > > Patrick Quinn > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Linwood H Rose > Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 11:39 AM > To: healeylist > Subject: [Healeys] Jule Frame - Part two > > I enjoy perfectly original cars that have been well cared for. I enjoy > radically modified Healeys, and I enjoy slightly personalized Healeys. I > like Healey Blue, BRG, OEW, Florida Green, Spruce Green and Pacific Green. > I > like a really good black one too, but mine are both RED! My wife really > likes those modern roll-up windows and the pull-up convertible top, but > mine > are roadsters with side curtains! > > Finally, I really like Healey people who love originality. They are > dedicated to the hobby (or profession), and typically they can be really, > really helpful. I called on one of my very favorites, Rich Chrysler, with a > question just today and he had an answer for me in minutes. You know what, > he didn't ask me if I was working on "an as original car" or not? I once > prepared an article on the rebuild of the control head (trafficator) and > Roger Moment was the go to guy, ready to lend a helpful assist. > > Then again, I love Healey people who modify their cars to suit THEIR tastes > while remaining true to what I will call a "Healey Spirit." Steve Thomton, > Mick Nordquist, Rick Neville, Steve Gerow, Randy Forbes, Rich Grauman, Tim > Moran, Udo Putzke and Mike Oritt come to mind. > > I could have named many other people in both of these categories (and > sub-categories). Heaven only knows how much I have benefitted from all of > these people. I am thankful to you all. I even try to share what I have > learned from time to time to keep this automotive interest going. > > So.... > > Cheers and thanks. > Lin > > Lin Rose > 1959 AN5 Bugeye - pure driving enjoyment, go-kart with a body. > 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" - owned since 1971, my first car and still have > it! > 1964 Jag MKII - current project > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 01:13:11 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:13:11 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Rough Idle, was Valve gap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bob, Unfortunatly this is only one suspect. I once had a faulty coil which did exactly the same for example. Gergo 2011/6/19 Bob Johnson > So... > > if this: > > "A clear sign if You set the gap too tight is that after some minutes of > road > speed, You get rough idle (or no idle at all!) with some cylinders out. > After cooling a bit down, things go back to norm." > > is true then I might surmise that once again a description of the way > my car runs has been made. Would this be the prime suspect in the way > my car idles when hot, or are there more probable suspects? > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon Jun 20 05:31:17 2011 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:31:17 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Mountain Legends on Youtube In-Reply-To: <355979.39263.qm@web161219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <355979.39263.qm@web161219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <929E163F0DF3421483CE816FA6EB91B8@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Rick It's been many years since I have had the pleasure of seeing this. Many thanks for letting everyone know. I would like to let our club members know of its availability. Would anyone have a high res still of the film they can send me please? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick Sent: Saturday, 18 June 2011 11:20 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Mountain Legends on Youtube Most of us have probably seen this at one time or another, but I still love looking at the team Healeys and Sprites from the 1965 Targa Florio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_SV9FAX0tE (In 8 parts) Rick From gmandas at yahoo.com Mon Jun 20 05:49:11 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:49:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Land Rover diesel question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EA607FE-8261-481A-A936-D1C60BB9D786@yahoo.com> Ira, Dude! We're all on the edge of our seats waiting to hear you're finished and driving to the show and you're off trying to start an LR!? People on 6 out of 7 continents (unless there's a list member on Antarctica) all chanting, "Ira, Ira, Ira". Greg 65BJ8 Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jun 19, 2011, at 10:44 PM, I Erbs wrote: > If you know about cold start system on a Series LR please notify off list. > Have posted on LR sites, but need more info. > Now return to usual bickering, help and general good humored bantering about > Healey related topics. > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jun 20 06:09:27 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:09:27 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DFF3877.2080406@chello.nl> Fred, This is an excellent site to start with. I have used it many a time. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From mgcharlie at comcast.net Mon Jun 20 06:19:31 2011 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:19:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Jule Frame - Part two In-Reply-To: <4AD335A1-45F7-45F8-994D-BC98FF66352B@mac.com> References: <4AD335A1-45F7-45F8-994D-BC98FF66352B@mac.com> Message-ID: <4DFF3AD3.1080407@comcast.net> As far as sharing what he has learned, Lin does an over the top job at that as editor of the Capital Area Austin-Healey Club's newsletter. His work rivals that of any professionally prepared publication. Those of us fortunate enough to read it, thank you, Lin. Charlie > I could have named many other people in both of these categories (and sub-categories). Heaven only knows how much I have benefitted from all of these people. I am thankful to you all. I even try to share what I have learned from time to time to keep this automotive interest going. > > So.... > > Cheers and thanks. > Lin [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From gmandas at yahoo.com Mon Jun 20 06:38:04 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 05:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Lets Move On In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <422208.75149.qm@web65912.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Curt, If I may, Mark and Ira, It may be not so much the topic but the tone that Mark and Ira are reacting to. At least that's what it is for me. I have found on this list, in public and private communications, the nicest, most knowledgable, extremely helpful and passionate people. It really is a joy and an oasis from all the mean spirited emails (not to be discussed here) I receive daily, many from my boss, coworkers and, sadly, friends. I don't think there's a topic that's been discussed lately that shouldn't have been, but some of the submissions have been edgy, bordering on mean spirited. And I don't think that's the intent of the sender. As a computer professional communicating through email or email-like systems since the late 80's, (I know, "Youngster!!!") I found all too true the fact, the tone or spirit the email is written in is often not what comes through. There are specific instances in my career when I've had to walk down the hall to a coworker's office and explain I was trying to be funny. I just think people need to re-read their posts before hitting Send with an eye towards, "If the person on the other end is having a bad day or doesn't get that I'm being funny or sarcastic or drool or passionate, could it be taken the wrong way?" It's why I start a lot of my posts with "Dude!" How can anyone take a post seriously when it starts with, "Dude". Yeah, and sometimes I'm nothing more than full of sh*t. Greg --- On Sun, 6/19/11, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Lets Move On > To: "I Erbs" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011, 11:51 PM > Mark and Ira, > > This is a Healey list and as such this topic is as valid as > any other, so > this IS "the program" Mark. > > Please use the delete button if you do not like the > topic. No one is > forcing you to read any discussions on Concours. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 8:53 PM, I Erbs > wrote: > > > Right on > > > > Ira Erbs > > IT Consultant > > Portland, OR > > > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random > self corrections because > > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to > write > > > > On Jun 18, 2011 8:26 PM, "mark lapierre" > wrote: > > > --- On Sat, 6/18/11, mark lapierre > wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: mark lapierre > > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Lets > Move On > > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > > Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 8:56 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Come on gentlemen. Lets get back to the > professionism that you guys are > > > suppose to represent. This is not your personal > blog to air out your > > > personal differences. There are > > > plenty of areas for you to use for that. This > concourse crap ( hell with > > the > > > spelling Gary) > > > is been way over talked for the past decade. Most > of us got the picture > > > years ago. Lets move on and get back with the > program. > > > > > > Maybe Mark will open up a Concourse list for you > guys to bicker back and > > > forth. > > > > > > Mark From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 07:18:28 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 06:18:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Land Rover diesel question In-Reply-To: <0EA607FE-8261-481A-A936-D1C60BB9D786@yahoo.com> References: <0EA607FE-8261-481A-A936-D1C60BB9D786@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Got to sell the rover to help pay for the resto... Been under employed for a year. Thanks. I needed a smile.... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 20, 2011 4:49 AM, "Greg Mandas" wrote: > Ira, Dude! > > We're all on the edge of our seats waiting to hear you're finished and driving to the show and you're off trying to start an LR!? > > People on 6 out of 7 continents (unless there's a list member on Antarctica) all chanting, "Ira, Ira, Ira". > > Greg > 65BJ8 > > Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. > > > On Jun 19, 2011, at 10:44 PM, I Erbs wrote: > >> If you know about cold start system on a Series LR please notify off list. >> Have posted on LR sites, but need more info. >> Now return to usual bickering, help and general good humored bantering about >> Healey related topics. >> Thanks >> >> Ira Erbs >> IT Consultant >> Portland, OR >> >> sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because >> my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From ggilliam at usol.com Mon Jun 20 07:19:28 2011 From: ggilliam at usol.com (ggilliam at usol.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:19:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Lets Move On In-Reply-To: <422208.75149.qm@web65912.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <422208.75149.qm@web65912.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Greg, Well and accurately said! Although the subjects are often passionate, they still represent personal opinions, and each of us are entitled to our own opinions and should be respected as such. Regards, Gordy On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 05:38:04 -0700 (PDT), Greg Mandas wrote: > Curt, > > If I may, Mark and Ira, > > It may be not so much the topic but the tone > that Mark and Ira are reacting to. At least that's what it is for me. > > I have > found on this list, in public and private communications, the nicest, > most > knowledgable, extremely helpful and passionate people. It really is a > joy and > an oasis from all the mean spirited emails (not to be discussed here) > I > receive daily, many from my boss, coworkers and, sadly, friends. > > I don't > think there's a topic that's been discussed lately that shouldn't > have been, > but some of the submissions have been edgy, bordering on mean > spirited. > > And > I don't think that's the intent of the sender. > > As a computer professional > communicating through email or email-like systems since the late > 80's, (I > know, "Youngster!!!") I found all too true the fact, the tone or > spirit the > email is written in is often not what comes through. There are > specific > instances in my career when I've had to walk down the hall to a > coworker's > office and explain I was trying to be funny. > > I just think people need to > re-read their posts before hitting Send with an eye towards, "If the > person on > the other end is having a bad day or doesn't get that I'm being funny > or > sarcastic or drool or passionate, could it be taken the wrong way?" > > It's why > I start a lot of my posts with "Dude!" How can anyone take a post > seriously > when it starts with, "Dude". Yeah, and sometimes I'm nothing more > than full of > sh*t. > > Greg From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 07:26:38 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 06:26:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Lets Move On In-Reply-To: <422208.75149.qm@web65912.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <422208.75149.qm@web65912.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Cheers Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 20, 2011 5:38 AM, "Greg Mandas" wrote: > Curt, > > If I may, Mark and Ira, > > It may be not so much the topic but the tone that Mark and Ira are reacting to. At least that's what it is for me. > > I have found on this list, in public and private communications, the nicest, most knowledgable, extremely helpful and passionate people. It really is a joy and an oasis from all the mean spirited emails (not to be discussed here) I receive daily, many from my boss, coworkers and, sadly, friends. > > I don't think there's a topic that's been discussed lately that shouldn't have been, but some of the submissions have been edgy, bordering on mean spirited. > > And I don't think that's the intent of the sender. > > As a computer professional communicating through email or email-like systems since the late 80's, (I know, "Youngster!!!") I found all too true the fact, the tone or spirit the email is written in is often not what comes through. There are specific instances in my career when I've had to walk down the hall to a coworker's office and explain I was trying to be funny. > > I just think people need to re-read their posts before hitting Send with an eye towards, "If the person on the other end is having a bad day or doesn't get that I'm being funny or sarcastic or drool or passionate, could it be taken the wrong way?" > > It's why I start a lot of my posts with "Dude!" How can anyone take a post seriously when it starts with, "Dude". Yeah, and sometimes I'm nothing more than full of sh*t. > > Greg > > --- On Sun, 6/19/11, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > >> From: Curt/Nancy Arndt >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Lets Move On >> To: "I Erbs" >> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >> Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011, 11:51 PM >> Mark and Ira, >> >> This is a Healey list and as such this topic is as valid as >> any other, so >> this IS "the program" Mark. >> >> Please use the delete button if you do not like the >> topic. No one is >> forcing you to read any discussions on Concours. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Curt >> >> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 8:53 PM, I Erbs >> wrote: >> >> > Right on >> > >> > Ira Erbs >> > IT Consultant >> > Portland, OR >> > >> > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random >> self corrections because >> > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to >> write >> > >> > On Jun 18, 2011 8:26 PM, "mark lapierre" >> wrote: >> > > --- On Sat, 6/18/11, mark lapierre >> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > From: mark lapierre >> > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Contradict myself? Lets >> Move On >> > > To: healeys at autox.team.net >> > > Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 8:56 PM >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Come on gentlemen. Lets get back to the >> professionism that you guys are >> > > suppose to represent. This is not your personal >> blog to air out your >> > > personal differences. There are >> > > plenty of areas for you to use for that. This >> concourse crap ( hell with >> > the >> > > spelling Gary) >> > > is been way over talked for the past decade. Most >> of us got the picture >> > > years ago. Lets move on and get back with the >> program. >> > > >> > > Maybe Mark will open up a Concourse list for you >> guys to bicker back and >> > > forth. >> > > >> > > Mark From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Jun 20 07:26:54 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:26:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Sunoco poster In-Reply-To: <1147F861-A5C4-4689-BEAB-37DC6E967DFF@gmail.com> References: <912647.98542.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <1147F861-A5C4-4689-BEAB-37DC6E967DFF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003501cc2f4d$b9246860$2b6d3920$@verizon.net> I have made contact with the proper person at Sunoco (finally) and he is mailing me a poster today. He says that they have a very limited supply of them. He will be looking into having them reproduced and signed by the artist and get back to me with a cost which I assume may be nominal. I have had only 6 responses asking me to see if they are available for purchase. He is talking about producing a quantity of 500 or so. I do not think that it may be realistic so if anyone else wants one, let me know so that I may be in a better position to let him know what the deal is. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: Randy Hicks [mailto:Healey100M at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:54 PM To: John Sims Cc: Greg Mandas Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sunoco poster Same here! Randy On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Greg Mandas wrote: > Count me in. assuming ... > > --- On Wed, 6/15/11, John Sims wrote: > >> From: John Sims >> Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco poster >> To: "Healey List" >> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 4:19 PM Ever since it was noted on >> this list that Sunoco has a poster (and heading on a web site) >> featuring what appears to be an Austin Healey I have been trying to >> contact them both by email and phone to ascertain if it is possible >> to purchase the advertising posters. Today I reached on the phone a >> person by the name of Charlie Valis who apparently is in charge of >> their advertising department. (that will serve him for not having a >> secretary screen his calls!) He will see if it is possible to have >> some of these posters available for purchase. He promises to get back >> to me by the end of the week. >> >> We shall see. >> >> John Sims, BN6 >> Aberdeen, NJ >> >> http://www.healey6.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at gmail.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 07:43:34 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:43:34 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Land Rover diesel question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wasn't this particular vehicle referred to as the "Antichrist" by the trusted mechanic in the movie The Gods Must be Crazy? On 6/20/11, I Erbs wrote: > If you know about cold start system on a Series LR please notify off list. > Have posted on LR sites, but need more info. > Now return to usual bickering, help and general good humored bantering about > Healey related topics. > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From ed.reiss at hotmail.com Mon Jun 20 08:04:57 2011 From: ed.reiss at hotmail.com (Ed Reiss) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:04:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvous and Conclave Message-ID: Anybody going to both Rendezvous and Conclave? I'm going to Conclave but I am getting some parts from Ira in Portland and I'm looking for someone who might be able to transport them from there to Colorado Springs. The parts are a flywheel, a clutch disc and pressure plate. Please contact me directly off-list. Thanks Ed From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 08:05:48 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:05:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Land Rover diesel question In-Reply-To: <0EA607FE-8261-481A-A936-D1C60BB9D786@yahoo.com> References: <0EA607FE-8261-481A-A936-D1C60BB9D786@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have been working on the car every possible moment. I try to get at least a hour in, if I have been really busy. I'm also trying to build a consulting business, raise teenagers and have a meaningful relationship with my supportive wife. With the help of my sons,wife and a friends I got about 90% of the harness hooked up, am installing the gauges and switches in the dash, painting and restoring as much as possible. still need the carbs back from my re-builder, borrow a windshield, and hook up the dash and see if I can get the beast started without burning to the ground due to some wire miscue.... Hey I still have a week :) Thanks for the encouragement On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Greg Mandas wrote: > Ira, Dude! > > We're all on the edge of our seats waiting to hear you're finished and > driving to the show and you're off trying to start an LR!? > > People on 6 out of 7 continents (unless there's a list member on > Antarctica) all chanting, "Ira, Ira, Ira". > > Greg > 65BJ8 > > Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. > > > On Jun 19, 2011, at 10:44 PM, I Erbs wrote: > > > If you know about cold start system on a Series LR please notify off > list. > > Have posted on LR sites, but need more info. > > Now return to usual bickering, help and general good humored bantering > about > > Healey related topics. > > Thanks > > > > Ira Erbs > > IT Consultant > > Portland, OR > > > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections > because > > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Mon Jun 20 08:24:13 2011 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:24:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] wow Message-ID: As the GREAT Rodney King once said, "can't we just all get along?" I don't see this form of "Typing Testosterone" on the bugeye list! The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jun 20 08:28:03 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:28:03 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Land Rover diesel question In-Reply-To: References: <0EA607FE-8261-481A-A936-D1C60BB9D786@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DFF58F3.7010509@chello.nl> Op 20-6-2011 15:18, I Erbs schreef: > Got to sell the rover to help pay for the resto... Do it the other way around. Much cheaper! Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From healeyguy at aol.com Mon Jun 20 08:32:16 2011 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:32:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Sunoco poster In-Reply-To: <003501cc2f4d$b9246860$2b6d3920$@verizon.net> References: <912647.98542.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com><1147F861-A5C4-4689-BEAB-37DC6E967DFF@gmail.com> <003501cc2f4d$b9246860$2b6d3920$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <8CDFD6DFD05A571-17C4-482CD@webmail-d068.sysops.aol.com> John I stopped in at a Sunoco station to fill the wife's Cube last night. Have not been to that area since moving east so I didn't even know we had a Sunoco station. Asked the nice lady behind the convenience store counter what they will do with the Free Gas 5000 ( with a red, almost Austin Healey on it ) posters when the promotion is over. They have them displayed in at least 8 places around the station. She wasn't sure but gave me a number to call. Seems that the posters are changed out periodically. Hoping to get a couple that way but if the signed copies are going to be available put me on the list.... Aloha Perry From scvc70 at epix.net Mon Jun 20 08:41:49 2011 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:41:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 750 mile car References: <4DFB4F9F.20002@comcast.net> Message-ID: One more comment: I belong to the Society of Automotive Historians (www.autohistory.org). Not long ago an editorial column lamented the amount of "history" that has been lost because cars with still-presentable original appearance have been restored. I used to own such a car (American, not British) and took it to Hershey a few times after the establishment of AACA's HPOF [Historic Preservation of Original Features] class. We'd park it at our flea market spaces, and a number of other owners of the same model who were restoring their own cars came and crawled all over/under it, with camera and tape measure and notebook, because they were SURE that what they were looking at--after 60+ years--was still the way it was when it left the factory. On a sadder note, I sold the car a few years ago to someone who said he prized "original" cars (and in fact had driven one himself for years before he sold it back to the family of the original owner). Alas, a year later I saw it in the car corral at Hershey. I have no idea who bought it, but I fear the worst.... Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Baldwin" To: Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 750 mile car >I suppose that I should comment on this, because the car that Shawn is > referring to is mine. It is a 1960 3000. It actually has around 14,500 > miles on it now. It had around 13,800 on it when we bought it a couple > of years ago. > It is very original and we want to be sure that wherever it ends up the > new owner does not want to restore it. The paint, seats, carpet, top, > tonneau, trunk liner, etc. are all original as they left the factory and > unrestored. The drive train is original. Some painting has occurred to > the engine to make it presentable. Many of you may know that much of > the paint on these cars was not necessarily done with longevity of the > finish in mind. > We also have the original tires on the original wheels. I'm debating > now on whether I should have the wheels sandblasted and paint them to be > presentable or leave them the way they are. The original paint on them > does not look very good, with lots of small rust specks showing through, > and one of them had already been sandblasted some when we got the car. > I have signed up to have it judged in concours at Encounter in August > and don't want to get deductions for using those ugly wheels or for > having non-original type radial 165-15 tires on other wheels, either 48 > or 60 spoke, which is what I have available. > The original exhaust system is also with the car along with a factory > hardtop that was bought from the dealer when the car was new. The > Heritage cert. does not mention a hardtop, so I have to assume that it > was just bought from the dealer. The car now has a stainless steel > exhaust system on it. > The car is local here to Lancaster County, PA, and was bought as a > birthday present for the man's wife, who traded another Austin-Healey in > on it. It spent the first five years of its life in a climate > controlled carriage house. But when he died, she turned off the heat > and A/C and it mostly just sat. It was last registered in 1967, before > being purchased at the estate sale in 2001. The party that we bought it > from brought it back to life with mostly sympathetic means. > > I think that is a real shame that if the 750 mile car was in anything > like the condition of this one, that someone restored it and destroyed > all of it's originality. > > There is another car that this brings to mind. That is Larry Varley's > 100 that was wrecked very early in its life and therefore did need to be > restored. He did a wonderful job with it, modified it some, but it is > truly a beautiful car, which he actually saved by restoring it. It had > very few miles on it also. > > Charlie From glemon at neb.rr.com Mon Jun 20 09:02:08 2011 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:02:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Lets Move On In-Reply-To: <422208.75149.qm@web65912.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <422208.75149.qm@web65912.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5AA6D65011B24F61BA6F25A32A178D4B@GregPC> Couldn't have said it better Greg, cheers Greg From tadeusz.malkiewicz at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 09:22:24 2011 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at gmail.com (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:22:24 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Opening a Polish Healey Club? Message-ID: <6AEE11A56C5145198B8E1BA7A0C7703B@TM1> Hello, We are thinking of opening a Polish Healey club. This might sould like a stupid question from someone on the list for the past 2+ years, but are the Healey clubs organized in any way world wide? Would we have to register somewhere as a Polish Chapter or other? I should mention, it will not be a very large club.. :-), but we may just open a Central European club instead (what do you think Grego?? :-)) Best, Tadek From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 20 09:36:11 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:36:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] County, Another part snafu In-Reply-To: <000c01cc2d54$fe6a3da0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000c01cc2d54$fe6a3da0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <03AA408F-1E8B-44D9-AD1E-609B8DF3EC19@sbcglobal.net> You assume that this had to be a County error. We have had many times that things are boxed wrong from many suppliers. It is always possible that they were a returned set and the previous purchaser had ordered the wrong size and then returned them in the wrong box. We all must realize that if County who is actually part of XRN which a company in England was not producing the parts they are we would not be driving our cars. This problem is not just in our cars. I have done a High Performance 67 Mustang for my son. Some of the parts that i have received for that car to include electrical and upholstery parts as well as that rubber parts are total junk. Door panels that can not be removed because the material is so thin that it cracks as soon as you try to remove the panel, and material that is cut to short and falls off with in 1 year of installing. Turn signal switches that are wired wrong, door seals that fall off. Sound familiar. And there are a probably more 67 Mustangs on the road today than there are the total Healey's on the road. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > Rod bearings were boxed wrong for my MGA. Should have been > .020 but STD was marked on the bearings. > > Pays to check the small print. > > Moss took care of this problem for me immediately. > > FYI, double check everything with the County label. I had to > also send an oil pump back to another company just last week > that had the County label. Problem corrected immediately. > > Just a heads up to my fellow hobbyists. > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 20 09:40:27 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:40:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] brake pipe threaded ends In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We have these brake lines available new stainless steel, as well as the fittings it you wanted to make new ones David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 18, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Tom wrote: > Hi, > > I'm removing my late BJ8's front calipers, and the nut and brake > line into > the caliper are stuck. The nut's threads in the caliper are OK, > but the > nut and brake line seem frozen. > > Any ideas on getting this unstuck. If I end up twisting the nut > off the > brake line, can I run to Napa and get a short piece of brake line > and bend > to fit? Or are the threads a vintage British size? > > thanks, > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 09:49:58 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:49:58 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Opening a Polish Healey Club? In-Reply-To: <6AEE11A56C5145198B8E1BA7A0C7703B@TM1> References: <6AEE11A56C5145198B8E1BA7A0C7703B@TM1> Message-ID: Aye Sir! I join. Gergo 2011/6/20 Tadeusz Malkiewicz > Hello, > > > > We are thinking of opening a Polish Healey club. This might sould like a > stupid question from someone on the list for the past 2+ years, but are the > Healey clubs organized in any way world wide? Would we have to register > somewhere as a Polish Chapter or other? > > > > I should mention, it will not be a very large club.. :-), but we may just > open a Central European club instead (what do you think Grego?? :-)) > > > > Best, Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Jun 20 09:55:33 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:55:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Sunoco poster In-Reply-To: <8CDFD6DFD05A571-17C4-482CD@webmail-d068.sysops.aol.com> References: <912647.98542.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com><1147F861-A5C4-4689-BEAB-37DC6E967DFF@gmail.com> <003501cc2f4d$b9246860$2b6d3920$@verizon.net> <8CDFD6DFD05A571-17C4-482CD@webmail-d068.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <003b01cc2f62$7d2bba60$77832f20$@rr.com> Reminds of the time in '93 I was bopping down the street in Queenstown, NZ and saw a black BJ8 on a poster looking out at me from the door of a grocery store. I went in and begged and pleaded for the poster, but the young things who were there just worked in the store and had no authority for anything, so they wouldn't let me take it. I mentioned this poster to a bus driver in Rotorua who was wearing a jacket with a Jag on the back. Two years later, I came home from work to find a paper mailing tube on my kitchen table with the Healey poster inside. It had taken the bus driver that long to find one, because it was actually an ad for Benson & Hedges cigarettes and tobacco advertising had been banned in NZ. He eventually got one from Benson & Hedges in Australia and sent it on to me. I was flabbergasted that he had stayed on the trail for two years. Gotta love those Kiwis. I'll send a picture of the poster to John Sims for his site so all can see it. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeyguy at aol.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:32 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Sunoco poster John I stopped in at a Sunoco station to fill the wife's Cube last night. Have not been to that area since moving east so I didn't even know we had a Sunoco station. Asked the nice lady behind the convenience store counter what they will do with the Free Gas 5000 ( with a red, almost Austin Healey on it ) posters when the promotion is over. They have them displayed in at least 8 places around the station. She wasn't sure but gave me a number to call. Seems that the posters are changed out periodically. Hoping to get a couple that way but if the signed copies are going to be available put me on the list.... Aloha Perry From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 20 10:07:12 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:07:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] County, Another part snafu References: <000c01cc2d54$fe6a3da0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> <03AA408F-1E8B-44D9-AD1E-609B8DF3EC19@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <000a01cc2f64$22780db0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> All very good points. Most of us have know way of knowing what you do about the possibilities of misboxed parts etc. Thanks for the heads up and comparisons. My point was to just to make sure others pay attention to the parts that they are working with and make sure that they are what they perceive them to be. It is a given that their are going to be some mix ups knowing how big some of our distributors are getting. David, could expand on the XRN company information. That is the first time I have heard that name. Thanks, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: David Nock To: Mark LaPierre Cc: healeys at Autox.Team.Net ; mgs at Autox.Team.Net Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] County, Another part snafu You assume that this had to be a County error. We have had many times that things are boxed wrong from many suppliers. It is always possible that they were a returned set and the previous purchaser had ordered the wrong size and then returned them in the wrong box. We all must realize that if County who is actually part of XRN which a company in England was not producing the parts they are we would not be driving our cars. This problem is not just in our cars. I have done a High Performance 67 Mustang for my son. Some of the parts that i have received for that car to include electrical and upholstery parts as well as that rubber parts are total junk. Door panels that can not be removed because the material is so thin that it cracks as soon as you try to remove the panel, and material that is cut to short and falls off with in 1 year of installing. Turn signal switches that are wired wrong, door seals that fall off. Sound familiar. And there are a probably more 67 Mustangs on the road today than there are the total Healey's on the road. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Jun 20 10:10:17 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:10:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Opening a Polish Healey Club? In-Reply-To: <6AEE11A56C5145198B8E1BA7A0C7703B@TM1> References: <6AEE11A56C5145198B8E1BA7A0C7703B@TM1> Message-ID: <003c01cc2f64$8c1f7a50$a45e6ef0$@rr.com> Tadeusz, the various Healey clubs around the world are independent and not organized worldwide by "chapters". The AHCA in the USA and Canada is composed of local Healey clubs, or chapters in each state or region and has some international members, but the AHCA, UK, German, French, Dutch, Swedish, Norwegian, Japanese, etc. clubs are independent of each other. My particular interest in the various clubs is in being able to identify every BJ8 existing in the world, and of tracking them as they change hands. The purpose of this is to build and maintain a record of the ownership history of each car, which is for the benefit of future owners who will want to know that information. There is no other place where it can be documented and preserved except the registries, so I recommend that you maintain a record of the cars belonging to the club members. I already have a record of 3 BJ8s in Poland, which may be all of them (or not!). Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tadeusz Malkiewicz Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:22 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Opening a Polish Healey Club? Hello, We are thinking of opening a Polish Healey club. This might sould like a stupid question from someone on the list for the past 2+ years, but are the Healey clubs organized in any way world wide? Would we have to register somewhere as a Polish Chapter or other? I should mention, it will not be a very large club.. :-), but we may just open a Central European club instead (what do you think Grego?? :-)) Best, Tadek From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Jun 20 10:12:38 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:12:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: FW: Sunoco poster References: <912647.98542.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <1147F861-A5C4-4689-BEAB-37DC6E967DFF@gmail.com> <003501cc2f4d$b9246860$2b6d3920$@verizon.net> <100EDFB9-B04A-446D-A7BB-CF9B47978F78@pt.lu> Message-ID: <006801cc2f64$e04d0200$a0e70600$@verizon.net> You can see the poster on the Literature page of my site. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: Pieter and Linda [mailto:pieters at pt.lu] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:02 AM To: John Sims Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Sunoco poster John, Is the poster visible online anywhere. Maybe if we could see it, more people might be interested? cheers Pieter On 20/06/2011, at 3:26 PM, John Sims wrote: > I have made contact with the proper person at Sunoco (finally) and he > is mailing me a poster today. He says that they have a very limited > supply of them. He will be looking into having them reproduced and > signed by the artist and get back to me with a cost which I assume may > be nominal. I have had only 6 responses asking me to see if they are > available for purchase. He is talking about producing a quantity of > 500 or so. I do not think that it may be realistic so if anyone else > wants one, let me know so that I may be in a better position to let him know what the deal is. From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Jun 20 11:01:19 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:01:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Sunoco poster In-Reply-To: <003b01cc2f62$7d2bba60$77832f20$@rr.com> References: <912647.98542.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com><1147F861-A5C4-4689-BEAB-37DC6E967DFF@gmail.com> <003501cc2f4d$b9246860$2b6d3920$@verizon.net> <8CDFD6DFD05A571-17C4-482CD@webmail-d068.sysops.aol.com> <003b01cc2f62$7d2bba60$77832f20$@rr.com> Message-ID: <007701cc2f6b$ad561dd0$08025970$@verizon.net> It is on the Literature page. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 11:56 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Sunoco poster Reminds of the time in '93 I was bopping down the street in Queenstown, NZ and saw a black BJ8 on a poster looking out at me from the door of a grocery store. I went in and begged and pleaded for the poster, but the young things who were there just worked in the store and had no authority for anything, so they wouldn't let me take it. I mentioned this poster to a bus driver in Rotorua who was wearing a jacket with a Jag on the back. Two years later, I came home from work to find a paper mailing tube on my kitchen table with the Healey poster inside. It had taken the bus driver that long to find one, because it was actually an ad for Benson & Hedges cigarettes and tobacco advertising had been banned in NZ. He eventually got one from Benson & Hedges in Australia and sent it on to me. I was flabbergasted that he had stayed on the trail for two years. Gotta love those Kiwis. I'll send a picture of the poster to John Sims for his site so all can see it. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeyguy at aol.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:32 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Sunoco poster John I stopped in at a Sunoco station to fill the wife's Cube last night. Have not been to that area since moving east so I didn't even know we had a Sunoco station. Asked the nice lady behind the convenience store counter what they will do with the Free Gas 5000 ( with a red, almost Austin Healey on it ) posters when the promotion is over. They have them displayed in at least 8 places around the station. She wasn't sure but gave me a number to call. Seems that the posters are changed out periodically. Hoping to get a couple that way but if the signed copies are going to be available put me on the list.... Aloha Perry _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From jstmorris at yahoo.com Mon Jun 20 11:12:44 2011 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] County, Another part snafu In-Reply-To: <000a01cc2f64$22780db0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <745894.73329.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Mark;B If you wish to check out XRN EngineeringB and the DSJ Group, here are a couple of links from my supplier files. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, CanadaB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives 'County' is a brandB ofB bXRN Engineeringb http://www.xrnengineering.co.uk/B http://www.xrnengineering.co.uk/products.html B And bXRN Engineeringb is part of the bDSJ GroupbB B http://www.dsjgroup.co.uk/group.html --- On Mon, 6/20/11, Mark LaPierre wrote: << All very good points.B Most of us have know way of knowing what you do about the possibilities of misboxed parts etc.B B B Thanks for the heads up and comparisons. My point was to just to make sure others pay attention to the parts that they are working with and make sure that they are what they perceive them to be.B It is a given that their are going to be some mix ups knowing how big some of our distributors are getting.B David, could expand on the XRN company information.B That is the first time I have heard that name. From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jun 20 11:32:47 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] County, Another part snafu In-Reply-To: <03AA408F-1E8B-44D9-AD1E-609B8DF3EC19@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1829318373.1842971.1308591167656.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> What he said. My father and I have had several problems where we've ordered parts that appear to have been returned with incorrect substitutes. At one time, one of the brake slave cyls for 100s was much more expensive than the others; we ordered one of the (expensive) ones and found that someone had put one of the cheaper ones in the box and returned it, pocketing the difference. We also bought a set of coils for a V8 from a reputable online retailer, and found at least one where someone had put their defective, old coil in the box and returned it, presumably for a full refund. In both cases we informed the seller, who shrugged it off, and the parts were probably re-stocked for the next unsuspecting customer. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA You assume that this had to be a County error. We have had many times that things are boxed wrong from many suppliers. It is always possible that they were a returned set and the previous purchaser had ordered the wrong size and then returned them in the wrong box. We all must realize that if County who is actually part of XRN which a company in England was not producing the parts they are we would not be driving our cars. This problem is not just in our cars. I have done a High Performance 67 Mustang for my son. Some of the parts that i have received for that car to include electrical and upholstery parts as well as that rubber parts are total junk. Door panels that can not be removed because the material is so thin that it cracks as soon as you try to remove the panel, and material that is cut to short and falls off with in 1 year of installing. Turn signal switches that are wired wrong, door seals that fall off. Sound familiar. And there are a probably more 67 Mustangs on the road today than there are the total Healey's on the road. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com From jtrifari at comcast.net Mon Jun 20 13:50:51 2011 From: jtrifari at comcast.net (John Trifari) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:50:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Moss harness question bt7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001cc2f83$5c4be240$14e3a6c0$@net> In negative ground cars the red wire goes to the + terminal of the coil; the black wire goes to the - terminal of the coil. Make sure you are using a positive ground Pertronix if your car I still positive ground. Negative ground Pertronix with negative ground cars. Unit will burn out if you shift polarity. Yellow wires run off the generator to the control box. Nothing to do with the distributor. Yellow/green goes from the F terminal of the generator to the F terminal on the control box. Yellow wire goes between D terminal and D terminal on the control box. John Trifari Golden Gate AHC -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:27 PM To: Alan Seigrist; healey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss harness question bt7 I thought so, but they are not in the schematic. Do you know which goes to positive? negative? Thanks On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Ira - > > Yellow wires are typically attach to your generator. > > Regards, > > Alan > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:18 AM, I Erbs wrote: > >> I am installing new Moss harness in my early bt7. >> >> I am putting in a complete pentronix dizzy. The harness wires near the >> coil >> generator area, do not match the either schematics I have. Dizzy has two >> wires red and black. Then I have yellow and yellow and green stripe wire >> from harness I can not fugure out. Schematic says brown/yelkow and >> brown/green. Which THE harness does not have. >> So how do I hook up dizzy and generator? >> Can send photos. >> Thanks >> >> Ira Erbs >> IT Consultant >> Portland, OR >> >> sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections >> because >> my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> > > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtrifari at comcast.net From waschu2 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 14:23:02 2011 From: waschu2 at gmail.com (Wayne Schultz) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:23:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Lockheed servo Message-ID: <4DFFAC26.5010304@gmail.com> Hi, I am retiring my Girling servo to my spares cabinet and want to install a Lockheed servo. So, I am looking for pictures of Lockheed servo installations in a 3000. I want to install it in the same location as the original but as high as possible to help keep it clean and avoid damage. I saw one car at a show that had the unit hanging below the frame rail :( Bending and welding up mount brackets is not a problem. Thanks Wayne From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 14:25:01 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:25:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Moss harness question bt7 In-Reply-To: <000001cc2f83$5c4be240$14e3a6c0$@net> References: <000001cc2f83$5c4be240$14e3a6c0$@net> Message-ID: Thanks, very clear. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:50 PM, John Trifari wrote: > In negative ground cars the red wire goes to the + terminal of the coil; > the > black wire goes to the - terminal of the coil. Make sure you are using a > positive ground Pertronix if your car I still positive ground. Negative > ground Pertronix with negative ground cars. Unit will burn out if you > shift > polarity. Yellow wires run off the generator to the control box. Nothing > to do with the distributor. Yellow/green goes from the F terminal of the > generator to the F terminal on the control box. Yellow wire goes between D > terminal and D terminal on the control box. John Trifari Golden Gate AHC > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:27 PM > To: Alan Seigrist; healey help > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss harness question bt7 > > I thought so, but they are not in the schematic. Do you know which goes to > positive? negative? > Thanks > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Alan Seigrist > wrote: > > > Ira - > > > > Yellow wires are typically attach to your generator. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alan > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:18 AM, I Erbs wrote: > > > >> I am installing new Moss harness in my early bt7. > >> > >> I am putting in a complete pentronix dizzy. The harness wires near the > >> coil > >> generator area, do not match the either schematics I have. Dizzy has two > >> wires red and black. Then I have yellow and yellow and green stripe > wire > >> from harness I can not fugure out. Schematic says brown/yelkow and > >> brown/green. Which THE harness does not have. > >> So how do I hook up dizzy and generator? > >> Can send photos. > >> Thanks > >> > >> Ira Erbs > >> IT Consultant > >> Portland, OR > >> > >> sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections > >> because > >> my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage : > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > >> > > > > > > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jtrifari at comcast.net > > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 20 15:03:49 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:03:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Lockheed servo In-Reply-To: <4DFFAC26.5010304@gmail.com> References: <4DFFAC26.5010304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <19A3D8E8-5603-4E5B-9EFC-9AB82C3D2CF1@sbcglobal.net> We have a bracket available to install the Lockheed servo fits in the same location as the oe girling servo. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Wayne Schultz wrote: > Hi, > > I am retiring my Girling servo to my spares cabinet and > want to install a Lockheed servo. So, I am looking for pictures > of Lockheed servo installations in a 3000. I want to install it > in the same location as the original but as high as possible to > help keep it clean and avoid damage. I saw one car at a show that > had the unit hanging below the frame rail :( Bending and welding > up mount brackets is not a problem. > > > Thanks > > Wayne > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 15:40:24 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:40:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] resto update 6/20 Message-ID: Wire harness is about 95% in engine and lights, still need to install my dash and hook up switches and gauges. Smitty rear mount has been bolted down, repainted headlight dip switch gauge brackets and misc bits. dash and dashpad have been recovered. floor insulation is done on driver's side, need to repaint a bit of the passenger floor, and few bits that got missed when I took the car to the painter. The biggest news is that I just heard from my re-builder that the carbs won't be done until next week ! So it looks like the car will be going to rendezvous on a trailer. Anyone want to hold a tech clinic on installing carbs and a BCS cable throttle while we are there? Still plugging away, in case they show up on time, but I'll miss this weekend doing a boy scout camp out. See you next week -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From wpollock at inbox.com Mon Jun 20 17:38:36 2011 From: wpollock at inbox.com (Bill Plck) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:38:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] FW: FW: Sunoco poster In-Reply-To: <006801cc2f64$e04d0200$a0e70600$@verizon.net> References: <003501cc2f4d$b9246860$2b6d3920$@verizon.net> <1147f861-a5c4-4689-beab-37dc6e967dff@gmail.com> <100edfb9-b04a-446d-a7bb-cf9b47978f78@pt.lu> <912647.98542.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Note the poster has the gas filler cap on left behind the driver and there isn't a handle for the boot. Bill Pollock > -----Original Message----- > From: ahbn6 at verizon.net > Sent: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:12:38 -0400 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] FW: FW: Sunoco poster > > You can see the poster on the Literature page of my site. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pieter and Linda [mailto:pieters at pt.lu] > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:02 AM > To: John Sims > Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Sunoco poster > > John, > Is the poster visible online anywhere. Maybe if we could see it, more > people might be interested? > cheers > Pieter > On 20/06/2011, at 3:26 PM, John Sims wrote: > >> I have made contact with the proper person at Sunoco (finally) and he >> is mailing me a poster today. He says that they have a very limited >> supply of them. He will be looking into having them reproduced and >> signed by the artist and get back to me with a cost which I assume may >> be nominal. I have had only 6 responses asking me to see if they are >> available for purchase. He is talking about producing a quantity of >> 500 or so. I do not think that it may be realistic so if anyone else >> wants one, let me know so that I may be in a better position to let him > know what the deal is. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/wpollock at inbox.com ____________________________________________________________ Send any screenshot to your friends in seconds... Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social networks. TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if2 for FREE From gmandas at yahoo.com Mon Jun 20 18:10:02 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] resto update 6/20 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <655024.15139.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Ira, Ugh! Did you tell the carb re-builder he's letting people on 6 out of 7 continents down? Greg --- On Mon, 6/20/11, I Erbs wrote: > From: I Erbs > Subject: [Healeys] resto update 6/20 > To: "healey help" > Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 5:40 PM > Wire harness is about 95% in engine > and lights, still need to install my > dash and hook up switches and gauges. > Smitty rear mount has been bolted down, > repainted headlight dip switch gauge brackets and misc > bits. dash and > dashpad have been recovered. > floor insulation is done on driver's side, need to repaint > a bit of > the passenger floor, and few bits that got missed when I > took the car to the > painter. > The biggest news is that I just heard from my re-builder > that the carbs > won't be done until next week ! > So it looks like the car will be going to rendezvous on a > trailer. Anyone > want to hold a tech clinic on installing carbs and a BCS > cable throttle while we are there? > Still plugging away, in case they show up on time, but I'll > miss this > weekend doing a boy scout camp out. > See you next week > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > > > -Albert > Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Jun 20 18:34:38 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:34:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: FW: Sunoco poster In-Reply-To: References: <003501cc2f4d$b9246860$2b6d3920$@verizon.net> <1147f861-a5c4-4689-beab-37dc6e967dff@gmail.com> <100edfb9-b04a-446d-a7bb-cf9b47978f78@pt.lu> <912647.98542.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00c201cc2fab$014c9150$03e5b3f0$@verizon.net> It is an artists rendition. Probably looking at it through a mirror. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: Bill Plck [mailto:wpollock at inbox.com] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 7:39 PM To: John Sims; Healey List Subject: RE: [Healeys] FW: FW: Sunoco poster Note the poster has the gas filler cap on left behind the driver and there isn't a handle for the boot. Bill Pollock > -----Original Message----- > From: ahbn6 at verizon.net > Sent: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:12:38 -0400 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] FW: FW: Sunoco poster > > You can see the poster on the Literature page of my site. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pieter and Linda [mailto:pieters at pt.lu] > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:02 AM > To: John Sims > Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Sunoco poster > > John, > Is the poster visible online anywhere. Maybe if we could see it, more > people might be interested? > cheers > Pieter > On 20/06/2011, at 3:26 PM, John Sims wrote: > >> I have made contact with the proper person at Sunoco (finally) and he >> is mailing me a poster today. He says that they have a very limited >> supply of them. He will be looking into having them reproduced and >> signed by the artist and get back to me with a cost which I assume >> may be nominal. I have had only 6 responses asking me to see if they >> are available for purchase. He is talking about producing a quantity >> of >> 500 or so. I do not think that it may be realistic so if anyone else >> wants one, let me know so that I may be in a better position to let >> him > know what the deal is. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/wpollock at inbox.com ____________________________________________________________ Send any screenshot to your friends in seconds... Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social networks. TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if2 for FREE From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jun 20 18:54:20 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:54:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Postal Strike in Canada Message-ID: <000001cc2fad$c18f6670$44ae3350$@net> Hello all, There are a number of folks who have sent for their reproduction early BN1 I.D. tags that I had mentioned on the list a while ago. I currently have 3 requests (and possibly more en route through the postal system) that will have to be held up for the moment due to a postal strike here in Canada. We will monitor the situation and process these requests as soon as we can. Thank you for your patience. Rich Chrysler and Bill Park From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 19:24:58 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:24:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] resto update 6/20 In-Reply-To: <655024.15139.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <655024.15139.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What can I say. Im bummed out. Car will be there, on a trailer. Still working on getting it ready for the carbs. Will install at the meet if need be. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 20, 2011 5:10 PM, "Greg Mandas" wrote: > Ira, > > Ugh! > > Did you tell the carb re-builder he's letting people on 6 out of 7 continents down? > > Greg > > --- On Mon, 6/20/11, I Erbs wrote: > >> From: I Erbs >> Subject: [Healeys] resto update 6/20 >> To: "healey help" >> Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 5:40 PM >> Wire harness is about 95% in engine >> and lights, still need to install my >> dash and hook up switches and gauges. >> Smitty rear mount has been bolted down, >> repainted headlight dip switch gauge brackets and misc >> bits. dash and >> dashpad have been recovered. >> floor insulation is done on driver's side, need to repaint >> a bit of >> the passenger floor, and few bits that got missed when I >> took the car to the >> painter. >> The biggest news is that I just heard from my re-builder >> that the carbs >> won't be done until next week ! >> So it looks like the car will be going to rendezvous on a >> trailer. Anyone >> want to hold a tech clinic on installing carbs and a BCS >> cable throttle while we are there? >> Still plugging away, in case they show up on time, but I'll >> miss this >> weekend doing a boy scout camp out. >> See you next week >> >> -- >> Ira Erbs >> IT CONSULTANT >> Portland, OR >> >> We can't solve problems by using the same kind of >> thinking we used when we created them. >> >> >> -Albert >> Einstein >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Mon Jun 20 21:29:36 2011 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:29:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] rendezvous weather. Message-ID: Portland and Vancouver members, as we are only a few days from Rendezvous (leaving Saturday), what weather can we expect? We are traveling up 395 to Alturas on to Eugene then to Vancouver. Probably hot around Alturas? Thanks Rich Kahn From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 20 21:54:18 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 23:54:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] County, Another part snafu References: <1829318373.1842971.1308591167656.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <001801cc2fc6$e5ee46d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Hearing that really pisses me off. What kind of scum bag does that knowing that some one else is gonna end up with a wrong inferior part. Which could in fact lead to a total break down of their vehicle. A!?h!!?!, And when I think about it, its just too damn easy to do. Is there honesty left anywhere? Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Spidell To: David Nock Cc: mgs at Autox.Team.Net ; healeys at Autox.Team.Net ; Mark LaPierre Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] County, Another part snafu What he said. My father and I have had several problems where we've ordered parts that appear to have been returned with incorrect substitutes. At one time, one of the brake slave cyls for 100s was much more expensive than the others; we ordered one of the (expensive) ones and found that someone had put one of the cheaper ones in the box and returned it, pocketing the difference. We also bought a set of coils for a V8 from a reputable online retailer, and found at least one where someone had put their defective, old coil in the box and returned it, presumably for a full refund. In both cases we informed the seller, who shrugged it off, and the parts were probably re-stocked for the next unsuspecting customer. Bob From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Jun 20 22:03:44 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 00:03:44 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvousing with carbs at Rendezvous Message-ID: <4703b.745a23b4.3b317220@aol.com> In a message dated 6/20/11 6:50:37 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > So it looks like the car will be going to rendezvous on a trailer. Anyone > want to hold a tech clinic on installing carbs and a BCS > cable throttle while we are there? > Still plugging away, in case they show up on time, but I'll miss this > weekend doing a boy scout camp out. > I think you should have a big ceremony at Rendezvous with everyone present when the carbs are all hooked up and the car is fired up for the first time. Gary From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 22:32:52 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:32:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvousing with carbs at Rendezvous In-Reply-To: <4703b.745a23b4.3b317220@aol.com> References: <4703b.745a23b4.3b317220@aol.com> Message-ID: my feelings exactly! I'll buy the beer for anyone who had a nice thing to say about my project and offered help. So those of you who pissed on me for installing a 5 speed, need not apply. BTW, this is sarcasm, not mean spirited commentary. I'll need help sorting out the wire harness too. I am color blind and my wife and sons helped with the rewire..... cheers. 6 more days..... I actually need to work the next three days and the weekend of scout activities, but I plan to install my dash and hook up gauges and switches in anticipation of installing the carbs... Pretty cool if I can tow it there and drive it home. cheers On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:03 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 6/20/11 6:50:37 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > > > So it looks like the car will be going to rendezvous on a trailer. Anyone > > want to hold a tech clinic on installing carbs and a BCS > > cable throttle while we are there? > > Still plugging away, in case they show up on time, but I'll miss this > > weekend doing a boy scout camp out. > > > I think you should have a big ceremony at Rendezvous with everyone present > when the carbs are all hooked up and the car is fired up for the first > time. > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 22:41:56 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:41:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] rendezvous weather. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Our local weather varies from rain, hail, sun and heat and all within a few hours of each other. A former student of mine told me about 16 years ago that only newcommers and fools predict the weather around here. mid 70s possible rain on Monday, but this far out, that will change. Its typically pretty low humidity, but we could get some rain too. Not trying to be obtuse, but it really does vary due to the Columbia River Gorge, coastal, and arctic influences, with a touch Hawaiian storms thrown in too. I'm in Portland. Let me know if I can help? On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > Portland and Vancouver members, as we are only a few days from Rendezvous > (leaving Saturday), what weather can we expect? We are traveling up 395 to > Alturas on to Eugene then to Vancouver. Probably hot around Alturas? > Thanks > Rich Kahn > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jun 21 02:35:07 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:35:07 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvousing with carbs at Rendezvous In-Reply-To: References: <4703b.745a23b4.3b317220@aol.com> Message-ID: <4E0057BB.9060500@chello.nl> One bit of advise, take a good fire extinguisher with you, not the powder type (very corrosive in the unlikely event that you have to use it) but the CO2 type or better the now illegal BF (halogen) type, all minimum 2kg, preferably 6-10kg. You would not be the first one losing the car because of a fire at the first starting up after a restoration. Also use light fuses, say 2 or 5A, to first test the various circuits one by one, after a successful round you can than change to the specified fuses for the combined lot. A wrong connection somewhere is easily overlooked Good luck. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 04:24:21 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:24:21 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] County, Another part snafu In-Reply-To: <001801cc2fc6$e5ee46d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <1829318373.1842971.1308591167656.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <001801cc2fc6$e5ee46d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: I used to build Minis. Dear mates, all I can say is that the Healey parts I have bought are a lightyear better quality than normal mini parts (not to menshion customer service). I am quite statisfied soo far. Much depends on the point of view. Gergo 2011/6/21 Mark LaPierre > Hearing that really pisses me off. What kind of scum bag does that > knowing > that some one else is gonna end up with a wrong inferior part. Which could > in > fact lead to a total break down of their vehicle. > > A!?h!!?!, And when I think about it, its just too damn easy to do. > > Is there honesty left anywhere? > > Mark > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Spidell > To: David Nock > Cc: mgs at Autox.Team.Net ; healeys at Autox.Team.Net ; Mark LaPierre > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] County, Another part snafu > > > What he said. > > My father and I have had several problems where we've ordered parts that > appear to have been returned with incorrect substitutes. At one time, one > of > the brake slave cyls for 100s was much more expensive than the others; we > ordered one of the (expensive) ones and found that someone had put one of > the > cheaper ones in the box and returned it, pocketing the difference. We also > bought a set of coils for a V8 from a reputable online retailer, and found > at > least one where someone had put their defective, old coil in the box and > returned it, presumably for a full refund. > > In both cases we informed the seller, who shrugged it off, and the parts > were probably re-stocked for the next unsuspecting customer. > > Bob > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From derek.c.job at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 04:58:09 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:58:09 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Cape International video Message-ID: Hi all For those who haven't seen it, you might take a look at the video on Cape International's website. It's a professionally produced and narrated promotional piece for Cape but nevertheless makes for interesting and entertaining viewing for Healeyphiles. As well as the Cape Sport 3000 and '100S' it features AHX 11, the 11th 100 produced at Warwick. It hasn't been upgraded and is restored to concours standards. Very, very nice cars. No economic interest etc, etc. In fact i don't think I've ever bought anything from them. Enjoy Derek From gmandas at yahoo.com Tue Jun 21 05:03:14 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:03:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvousing with carbs at Rendezvous In-Reply-To: <4703b.745a23b4.3b317220@aol.com> References: <4703b.745a23b4.3b317220@aol.com> Message-ID: <1CC0AC69-FBD1-4C8A-A12E-19932F2A4410@yahoo.com> And post the movie on YouTube. Greg 65BJ8 Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jun 21, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/20/11 6:50:37 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > >> So it looks like the car will be going to rendezvous on a trailer. Anyone >> want to hold a tech clinic on installing carbs and a BCS >> cable throttle while we are there? >> Still plugging away, in case they show up on time, but I'll miss this >> weekend doing a boy scout camp out. >> > I think you should have a big ceremony at Rendezvous with everyone present > when the carbs are all hooked up and the car is fired up for the first time. > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 06:09:22 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 05:09:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvousing with carbs at Rendezvous In-Reply-To: <4E0057BB.9060500@chello.nl> References: <4703b.745a23b4.3b317220@aol.com> <4E0057BB.9060500@chello.nl> Message-ID: Sound advice. Thanks I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:35 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > One bit of advise, take a good fire extinguisher with you, not the powder type (very corrosive in the unlikely event that you have to use it) but the CO2 type or better the now illegal BF (halogen) type, all minimum 2kg, preferably 6-10kg. > You would not be the first one losing the car because of a fire at the first starting up after a restoration. > Also use light fuses, say 2 or 5A, to first test the various circuits one by one, after a successful round you can than change to the specified fuses for the combined lot. A wrong connection somewhere is easily overlooked > Good luck. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Jun 21 06:19:21 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:19:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvousing with carbs at Rendezvous In-Reply-To: <4703b.745a23b4.3b317220@aol.com> References: <4703b.745a23b4.3b317220@aol.com> Message-ID: <001f01cc300d$7375cd70$5a616850$@net> THAT would be the biggest set up for bad karma I could ever imagine. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: 2011-06-21 12:04 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rendezvousing with carbs at Rendezvous In a message dated 6/20/11 6:50:37 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > So it looks like the car will be going to rendezvous on a trailer. Anyone > want to hold a tech clinic on installing carbs and a BCS > cable throttle while we are there? > Still plugging away, in case they show up on time, but I'll miss this > weekend doing a boy scout camp out. > I think you should have a big ceremony at Rendezvous with everyone present when the carbs are all hooked up and the car is fired up for the first time. Gary _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 07:09:52 2011 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 06:09:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] rendezvous weather. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, I am such a tool! Here I am planning the family summer road trip, only to realize we'll be in the Vancouver area right around Rendezvous. Now I have to go bargain with SWMBO to see if we can wrangle time to stop by. Jody On 6/20/11, I Erbs wrote: > Our local weather varies from rain, hail, sun and heat and all within a few > hours of each other. A former student of mine told me about 16 years ago > that only newcommers and fools predict the weather around here. > mid 70s possible rain on Monday, but this far out, that will change. > Its typically pretty low humidity, but we could get some rain too. > Not trying to be obtuse, but it really does vary due to the Columbia River > Gorge, coastal, and arctic influences, with a touch Hawaiian storms thrown > in too. > I'm in Portland. Let me know if I can help? > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Richard Kahn > wrote: > >> Portland and Vancouver members, as we are only a few days from Rendezvous >> (leaving Saturday), what weather can we expect? We are traveling up 395 to >> Alturas on to Eugene then to Vancouver. Probably hot around Alturas? >> Thanks >> Rich Kahn >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com >> > > > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jodyfkerr at gmail.com > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/They-Might-Be-Racing/182813478411202<--Follow us on Facebook! 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 07:09:59 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 06:09:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvousing with carbs at Rendezvous In-Reply-To: <001f01cc300d$7375cd70$5a616850$@net> References: <4703b.745a23b4.3b317220@aol.com> <001f01cc300d$7375cd70$5a616850$@net> Message-ID: could not imagine.... I do have the car insured fro $45K though.......As you say, very bad Karma, and I am such a nice helpful guy. That could never happen to me.... cheers On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Rich C wrote: > THAT would be the biggest set up for bad karma I could ever imagine. > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com > Sent: 2011-06-21 12:04 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rendezvousing with carbs at Rendezvous > > In a message dated 6/20/11 6:50:37 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > > > So it looks like the car will be going to rendezvous on a trailer. Anyone > > want to hold a tech clinic on installing carbs and a BCS > > cable throttle while we are there? > > Still plugging away, in case they show up on time, but I'll miss this > > weekend doing a boy scout camp out. > > > I think you should have a big ceremony at Rendezvous with everyone present > when the carbs are all hooked up and the car is fired up for the first > time. > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 07:16:00 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 06:16:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] rendezvous weather. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How could you not???? The Heathman resort should be a really nice place.They run one of the best Hotel/resturaunts in Portland. Where you planning to go? I can suggest things of interest to do in the Metro Portland/Vancouver area. contact off list if interested. If you like baseball, the Mariners are only 3 hours north in Seattle and we now have a top level soccer team here in town. Although the owner is a putz and I'm boycotting his team..... On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Jody Kerr wrote: > Wow, I am such a tool! > > Here I am planning the family summer road trip, only to realize we'll > be in the Vancouver area right around Rendezvous. > > Now I have to go bargain with SWMBO to see if we can wrangle time to stop > by. > > Jody > > On 6/20/11, I Erbs wrote: > > Our local weather varies from rain, hail, sun and heat and all within a > few > > hours of each other. A former student of mine told me about 16 years ago > > that only newcommers and fools predict the weather around here. > > mid 70s possible rain on Monday, but this far out, that will change. > > Its typically pretty low humidity, but we could get some rain too. > > Not trying to be obtuse, but it really does vary due to the Columbia > River > > Gorge, coastal, and arctic influences, with a touch Hawaiian storms > thrown > > in too. > > I'm in Portland. Let me know if I can help? > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Richard Kahn > > wrote: > > > >> Portland and Vancouver members, as we are only a few days from > Rendezvous > >> (leaving Saturday), what weather can we expect? We are traveling up 395 > to > >> Alturas on to Eugene then to Vancouver. Probably hot around Alturas? > >> Thanks > >> Rich Kahn > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Ira Erbs > > IT CONSULTANT > > Portland, OR > > > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > > thinking we used when we created them. > > -Albert Einstein > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jodyfkerr at gmail.com > > > > > -- > http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > https://www.facebook.com/pages/They-Might-Be-Racing/182813478411202 > <--Follow > us on Facebook! > > 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) > 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 > > "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from > the > experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination > to do so." > --Douglas Adams > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From 55healey at comcast.net Tue Jun 21 09:24:20 2011 From: 55healey at comcast.net (robert westcott) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:24:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: FW: Sunoco poster In-Reply-To: <00c201cc2fab$014c9150$03e5b3f0$@verizon.net> References: <003501cc2f4d$b9246860$2b6d3920$@verizon.net> <1147f861-a5c4-4689-beab-37dc6e967dff@gmail.com> <100edfb9-b04a-446d-a7bb-cf9b47978f78@pt.lu> <912647.98542.qm@web65904.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <00c201cc2fab$014c9150$03e5b3f0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Image flipped to make it a left hooker. Rob On Jun 20, 2011, at 5:34 PM, John Sims wrote: > It is an artists rendition. Probably looking at it through a mirror. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 09:47:28 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:47:28 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ad Message-ID: Was just in Munich airport and saw a picture of just a corner of the windscreen and bonnet on an ad for a swiss watch company, I think. BJ7 or BJ8. Healey Blue. Only a fellow nerd would know the car from the very partial pic. -- Sent from my mobile device From Healey100M at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 09:57:49 2011 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:57:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 turn signal problem Message-ID: <916076B0-9FD3-4A46-9380-D53F83658F62@gmail.com> Hi, got a non-list friend who is being driven nuts with his front turn signals. Rear directionals work fine, but fronts both flash regardless of which is indicated. Any ideas why? Early BN1, new harness, new flasher unit and relay (gaps are fine), rebuilt trafficator, and wiring is hooked up by diagram. Any ideas would help. TIA. Randy From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 21 10:14:23 2011 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <431393.72277.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Probably Frederique Constant they have sponsored many Healey events worldwide and have used Heaelys in the ads. ________________________________ From: Alan Seigrist To: Healey Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:47:28 AM Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ad Was just in Munich airport and saw a picture of just a corner of the windscreen and bonnet on an ad for a swiss watch company, I think. BJ7 or BJ8. Healey Blue. Only a fellow nerd would know the car from the very partial pic. -- Sent from my mobile device _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/blkbt7 at yahoo.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jun 21 11:15:58 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:15:58 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 turn signal problem In-Reply-To: <916076B0-9FD3-4A46-9380-D53F83658F62@gmail.com> References: <916076B0-9FD3-4A46-9380-D53F83658F62@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E00D1CE.5030806@chello.nl> Grounding/earthing problem? Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Tue Jun 21 11:17:35 2011 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] I need a rebuilt overdrive Message-ID: <819640.75700.qm@web120509.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I need a rebuilt overdrive, no exchange, for my BN2 Anyone offers this item in the USA ?? Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Jun 21 12:09:45 2011 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:09:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 turn signal problem In-Reply-To: <916076B0-9FD3-4A46-9380-D53F83658F62@gmail.com> References: <916076B0-9FD3-4A46-9380-D53F83658F62@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CDFE558932FB7F-192C-53908@webmail-m097.sysops.aol.com> Randy Check the two park/turn signal light connections, mainly the ground (black) wires. There should be a a ground (again black wire) loop connecter coming out of the harness that gets screwed to the body at the flasher box on the left inner wheel well. The rear lights have a screwed ground in the trunk but the fronts depend on the loop ground at the flasher box. Aloha Perry -----Original Message----- From: Randy Hicks To: Healey List Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 11:57 am Subject: [Healeys] BN1 turn signal problem Hi, got a non-list friend who is being driven nuts with his front turn ignals. Rear directionals work fine, but fronts both flash regardless of hich is indicated. Any ideas why? Early BN1, new harness, new flasher unit and relay (gaps are fine), rebuilt rafficator, and wiring is hooked up by diagram. Any ideas would help. TIA. Randy ______________________________________________ From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 13:07:07 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 03:07:07 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ad In-Reply-To: <431393.72277.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <431393.72277.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No, it wasn't.... It was another one, possibly Chopard. On 6/22/11, Bob Brown wrote: > Probably Frederique Constant they have sponsored many Healey events > worldwide > and have used Heaelys in the ads. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: > Alan Seigrist > To: Healey > Sent: > Tue, June 21, 2011 10:47:28 AM > Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ad > > Was just in Munich > airport and saw a picture of just a corner of the > windscreen and bonnet on an > ad for a swiss watch company, I think. > BJ7 or BJ8. Healey Blue. Only a fellow > nerd would know the car from > the very partial pic. > > -- > Sent from my mobile > device > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/blkbt7 at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 14:03:58 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:03:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Windshield frame Message-ID: Anyone have a source for a windshild frame bt7? Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Jun 21 14:33:40 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:33:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Windshield frame In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001801cc3052$81f26620$85d73260$@net> I have a spare assembly but I'm sure you could find something closer to home. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: 2011-06-21 4:04 To: healey help Subject: [Healeys] Windshield frame Anyone have a source for a windshild frame bt7? Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From bertvanbrande at yahoo.com Tue Jun 21 15:24:10 2011 From: bertvanbrande at yahoo.com (Bert Van Brande) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] grease guns Message-ID: <11146.71407.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Grease guns, such simple tools yet the 2 I bought failed miserably one after the other. The first one leaked from a hole in side of the tube, the second one leaked from about every orifice. After some online research it seems that there are still some good guns made. Grease guns with some good reviews: plews, alemite, lincoln. The price is actually not that much higher than the auto-parts store brands. It's just hard to figure where they're actually manufactured. Not one spec sheet mentions this detail. I am currently leaning towards buying an Alemite Professional 500 I'd like to hear if anybody has good experience with these guns. Do you prefer lever guns or pistol grip? Also what kind of extension do you prefer for the Healey: rigid or flexible? all input appreciated. bert From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Jun 21 17:38:03 2011 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:38:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] grease guns In-Reply-To: <11146.71407.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <11146.71407.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CDFE8365FC57DC-1B1C-511B@webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com> Bert I prefer the Nubrex or Tecalemit grease guns. They have a bit of originality and still leak all over the place.... Aloha Perry -----Original Message----- From: Bert Van Brande To: List Healey Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 5:24 pm Subject: [Healeys] grease guns Grease guns, such simple tools yet the 2 I bought failed miserably one after the ther. The first one leaked from a hole in side of the tube, the second one eaked from about every orifice. After some online research it seems that there re still some good guns made. Grease guns with some good reviews: plews, lemite, lincoln. The price is actually not that much higher than the uto-parts store brands. It's just hard to figure where they're actually manufactured. Not one spec heet mentions this detail. I am currently leaning towards buying an Alemite rofessional 500 I'd like to hear if anybody has good experience with these guns. Do you prefer ever guns or pistol grip? Also what kind of extension do you prefer for the ealey: rigid or flexible? all input appreciated. bert From glemon at neb.rr.com Tue Jun 21 18:14:43 2011 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:14:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] grease guns In-Reply-To: <8CDFE8365FC57DC-1B1C-511B@webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com> References: <11146.71407.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8CDFE8365FC57DC-1B1C-511B@webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <78FE3753A36849A987DA0C4E34D80487@GregPC> All the grease guns I have ever had leaked, but I have never looked for one that didn't figured they all did. I remember I needed to get a flexible head in the last ten years or so for the grease gun I had, I think it was needed for my 100 somewhere on the front suspension to get a good shot at the zirk, but could be wrong. It is handy to have both types of extenstions if you can get them, I know I can interchange them even on my cheap leaky gun. Greg Lemon From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 18:18:14 2011 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:18:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Parts catalog PDFs Message-ID: Hey folks, I could swear that I had acquired some PDF versions of the factory parts catalogs at some point. I've searched all through my harddrive ane email, but can't seem to find them. I'm pretty certain I got them from someone on the list at some point. Anyone have them? Jody -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/They-Might-Be-Racing/182813478411202 <--Follow us on Facebook! 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From autofarm at cyg.net Tue Jun 21 18:37:58 2011 From: autofarm at cyg.net (Bob Yule) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:37:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] I need a rebuilt overdrive References: <819640.75700.qm@web120509.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We have rebuilt units in stock. Cheers.......Bob Check out our web site www.autofarm.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josi Vicente Vargas" To: "Healey List" Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 1:17 PM Subject: [Healeys] I need a rebuilt overdrive >I need a rebuilt overdrive, no exchange, for my BN2 > > Anyone offers this item > in the USA ?? > > > Josi Vicente Vargas > Musmi > > > Tel. (571) 321 3740 > Cel. (57) 311 > 288 3401 > Skype: jovivago > > > www.musme.net > > > Bogota, Colombia > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/autofarm at cyg.net From bn1 at pacbell.net Tue Jun 21 18:40:08 2011 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:40:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] grease guns In-Reply-To: <11146.71407.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <11146.71407.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E0139E8.1070509@pacbell.net> Bert, IMHO I would get an air powered one. In my experience, unless you're Hulk Hogan, you can't get enough pressure with a pistol grip and unless you have the car on a rack, you won't have enough space for a lever-action. Another problem with the lever is that often the fitting will come off the nipple while your hands are occupied pumping. But, I have never used a pneumatic grease gun. I had a brand-new one on the shelf when my wheelchair grabbed me by the ass. HTH & good luck, Bill '53 BN1 '61 BT7 On 6/21/2011 2:24 PM, Bert Van Brande wrote: > Grease guns, such simple tools yet the 2 I bought failed miserably one after the other. The first one leaked from a hole in side of the tube, the second one leaked from about every orifice. After some online research it seems that there are still some good guns made. Grease guns with some good reviews: plews, alemite, lincoln. The price is actually not that much higher than the auto-parts store brands. > > It's just hard to figure where they're actually manufactured. Not one spec sheet mentions this detail. I am currently leaning towards buying an Alemite Professional 500 > > I'd like to hear if anybody has good experience with these guns. Do you prefer lever guns or pistol grip? Also what kind of extension do you prefer for the Healey: rigid or flexible? > > all input appreciated. > > bert > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bn1 at pacbell.net From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Tue Jun 21 20:01:01 2011 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:01:01 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Videos Message-ID: <1ff05.5cb25d2b.3b32a6dd@aol.com> I've been putting a lot of videos together lately and just finished one from last year's Rendezvous in Oregon. If anyone knows anyone in charge of the audio/visual for the dinner, I would be more than happy to send them a digital copy if they would like to play it on the big screen at dinner. For the rest of everyone, you can go see it on _www.youtube.com_ (http://www.youtube.com) if you like, here's the link: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf-1cM8hFas_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf-1cM8hFas) And if you like looking at Austin-Healey videos, there are a number of videos I just posted from the Austin-Healey Association of Southern California Healey Week 2010. And finally, I also just posted a number of short videos taken from my documentary about the Bonneville runs. On youtube, just type in the search box: Calif-Healey Week and a number of videos will come up, or type in: Austin Healey Return to Bonneville and those will appear along the side. And since a lot of you have watched the Gerry Coker Conversation, that now comes up very quickly in a search also when you just type in: Gerry Coker, thanks. I hope you enjoy and I have more videos I'm working on so they will be coming along shortly. Thanks, Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 From austin.healey at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 20:02:21 2011 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock [Healey]) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:02:21 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Please take a look at this article I saw on http://www.classicdriver.com: In-Reply-To: <8CDF14BB19CDAC3-1BB8-23036@webmail-d167.sysops.aol.com> References: <20110603215540.URMK22406.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> <8CDF14BB19CDAC3-1BB8-23036@webmail-d167.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Howard, Thanks for the heads up on the AB Jenkins DVD. I ordered one, which arrived yesterday, and I watched it last night. It is brilliant - it is a sort of biography of AB Jenkins, and his son Marv - and covers AB's career and the land speed, cross country, board track and hill climb records he set; and the efforts his son went to to restore the Mormon Meteor 3. I looked up the FIA land speed records - AB still holds many long distance land speed records which have stood unbettered for over 60 years in his MM3. It's pretty amazing that a guy could set what were basically endurance records from 1923 (cross country record 23 hours, 43 mins from SLC to LA) to 1956 (24 hours in a Pontiac At Bonneville at 118 mph) - and still hold around a dozen Land Speed class records 55 years after his death...... Healey content: M.Corfield (and co driver J. Welsh for the >100m) in an Austin Healey 100/4 are listed as holding the 100Km, 100M, 500Km, 500m, 1,000Km and 1 hour class records from their Millbrook run in 2009 Best Chris On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:56 PM, wrote: > Very interesting and free magazine subscription. > Be sure to check out the "The men on the ribbon of salt" Ab Jenkins wow > whatb a driver. > > Anyone have any secrets to welding the front cowl and boot on a Healey > 1961 > aluminium? > I have so small holes that need mending > also the www.Boysofbonneville.com > I just thought you all might find this interesting. > Howard In Ohio > akronzips at aol.com > 1961 BT7 3000 From bn1 at pacbell.net Tue Jun 21 20:48:14 2011 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:48:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Videos In-Reply-To: <1ff05.5cb25d2b.3b32a6dd@aol.com> References: <1ff05.5cb25d2b.3b32a6dd@aol.com> Message-ID: <4E0157EE.7080700@pacbell.net> Thank you, Steven. "You are an officer and a gentleman." Bill '53 BN1 #663 '61 BT7 -- When I was younger, I could remember anything whether it had happened or not. But now my facilities are decaying and soon I shall be so I cannot remember anything but the things that never happened. - Mark Twain On 6/21/2011 7:01 PM, ATIGHTPROD at aol.com wrote: > I've been putting a lot of videos together lately and just finished one > from last year's Rendezvous in Oregon. If anyone knows anyone in charge of > the audio/visual for the dinner, I would be more than happy to send them a > digital copy if they would like to play it on the big screen at dinner. For > the rest of everyone, you can go see it on _www.youtube.com_ > (http://www.youtube.com) if you like, here's the link: > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf-1cM8hFas_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf-1cM8hFas) > And if you like looking at Austin-Healey videos, there are a number of > videos I just posted from the Austin-Healey Association of Southern > California Healey Week 2010. And finally, I also just posted a number of short > videos taken from my documentary about the Bonneville runs. > On youtube, just type in the search box: Calif-Healey Week and a > number of videos will come up, or type in: Austin Healey Return to Bonneville > and those will appear along the side. And since a lot of you have watched the > Gerry Coker Conversation, that now comes up very quickly in a search also > when you just type in: Gerry Coker, thanks. > I hope you enjoy and I have more videos I'm working on so they will be > coming along shortly. > Thanks, > Steven Kingsbury > BN1 #598 From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 21:24:17 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:24:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] grease guns In-Reply-To: <4E0139E8.1070509@pacbell.net> References: <11146.71407.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4E0139E8.1070509@pacbell.net> Message-ID: When I was a kid doing lube and oul changes, I was lubing an old Studebaker. It must have had 40 zerks. The gun broke when I was under it and my face aNd hair was coated in gold lithium grease...took for ever to wash it out of my beard and hair..... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 21, 2011 6:07 PM, "Mr. Bill" wrote: > Bert, > > IMHO I would get an air powered one. In my experience, unless you're > Hulk Hogan, you can't get enough pressure with a pistol grip and unless > you have the car on a rack, you won't have enough space for a > lever-action. Another problem with the lever is that often the fitting > will come off the nipple while your hands are occupied pumping. But, I > have never used a pneumatic grease gun. I had a brand-new one on the > shelf when my wheelchair grabbed me by the ass. > > HTH & good luck, > > Bill > '53 BN1 > '61 BT7 > > On 6/21/2011 2:24 PM, Bert Van Brande wrote: >> Grease guns, such simple tools yet the 2 I bought failed miserably one after the other. The first one leaked from a hole in side of the tube, the second one leaked from about every orifice. After some online research it seems that there are still some good guns made. Grease guns with some good reviews: plews, alemite, lincoln. The price is actually not that much higher than the auto-parts store brands. >> >> It's just hard to figure where they're actually manufactured. Not one spec sheet mentions this detail. I am currently leaning towards buying an Alemite Professional 500 >> >> I'd like to hear if anybody has good experience with these guns. Do you prefer lever guns or pistol grip? Also what kind of extension do you prefer for the Healey: rigid or flexible? >> >> all input appreciated. >> >> bert >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bn1 at pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jun 21 22:14:56 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:14:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] grease guns In-Reply-To: <11146.71407.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <11146.71407.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E016C40.4040909@comcast.net> Bert, Here's my 'rig.' It's small, so it's easy to get in tight spaces, but will do a full grease-job on my BJ8 3-4 times before I have to change cartridges. I've seen other small pistol grip guns, but the handle and nozzle are oriented differently; e.g. with the hose/extension coming out at 90deg to the barrel of the gun. It doesn't seem to me they'd be as convenient. I have a 6-inch metal extension, but I only use the flexible hose. You usually need to wriggle the nozzle a little to get a good seal on the zerk (although the metal pipe would be handy for getting the zerks on the drivetrain and the front U-joint). I picked it up in a local auto parts store probably close to 20 years ago. I believe it's Sta-Lube brand, who generally makes good products. Yeah, it leaks a little--grease is just oil with a thickener, it's gonna ooze out--and the threads on the cap are easy to strip, but all in all it's been a terrific tool. Anybody else want a photo let me know. Bob On 6/21/2011 2:24 PM, Bert Van Brande wrote: > Grease guns, such simple tools yet the 2 I bought failed miserably one after the other. The first one leaked from a hole in side of the tube, the second one leaked from about every orifice. After some online research it seems that there are still some good guns made. Grease guns with some good reviews: plews, alemite, lincoln. The price is actually not that much higher than the auto-parts store brands. > > It's just hard to figure where they're actually manufactured. Not one spec sheet mentions this detail. I am currently leaning towards buying an Alemite Professional 500 > > I'd like to hear if anybody has good experience with these guns. Do you prefer lever guns or pistol grip? Also what kind of extension do you prefer for the Healey: rigid or flexible? > > all input appreciated. > > bert > _______________________________________________ > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_0003.JPG] From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Tue Jun 21 22:27:47 2011 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:27:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] bridges tour Message-ID: Thanks for the link. We were in another group that got lost. Leader didn't get good instructions. Maybe 8 cars. We went to lunch instead and only saw three bridges on out own. We sure missed a lot. That was well done. Rich Kahn From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 23:02:38 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:02:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel nut Message-ID: Howdy, Still plugging away on my BT7 Right now I need the size and pitch of the steering wheel nut on a non-adjustable column? I think I found the nut, but the threads on the shaft don't look great and I want to chase them with a die. TIA -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Jun 22 02:53:22 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:53:22 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] grease guns In-Reply-To: <11146.71407.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <11146.71407.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E01AD82.8060903@chello.nl> Bert, I have used Tecalemite (hope I spell it right), both a large lever one with a rigid extension and an old small pump action one (1920's-1930's) found in a flea market in France for 50 centimes a long time ago. They both have served me more than 40 years without failing on all kinds of cars. A flexible extension would probably the best choice for awkward to reach places. Kees Oudesluijs [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From derek.c.job at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 03:52:42 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:52:42 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Spring washers don't work ! Message-ID: All, Yesterday must have been a slow day as I found myself googling 'spring washers' in the interests of increasing my limited knowledge of all things mechanical. One of the results was the artilce below, with video tests, which concludes that under various circumstances,spring washers, as well as not preventing screw loosening, can actually make it worse. Interesting stuff. What is the view of the list experts out there? http://www.boltscience.com/pages/helicalspringwashers.htm cheers Derek From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 04:24:31 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:24:31 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On the worst places better use self locking nuts. They work. Gergo 2011/6/22 Derek Job > All, > > Yesterday must have been a slow day as I found myself googling 'spring > washers' in the interests of increasing my limited knowledge of all things > mechanical. > > One of the results was the artilce below, with video tests, which concludes > that under various circumstances,spring washers, as well as not preventing > screw loosening, can actually make it worse. > > Interesting stuff. What is the view of the list experts out there? > > http://www.boltscience.com/pages/helicalspringwashers.htm > > cheers > > Derek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Jun 22 04:27:52 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:27:52 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E01C3A8.9070606@chello.nl> Split spring washers should not be used on its own really, especially with soft(ish) materials like aluminium or cast iron. It is best to use a plain washer on the material, then a spring washer followed by the nut or bolt. I prefer to use the non split spring steel washers, either domed or cupped. In critical applications I always use Locktite, lock wire or a double nut. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From rchaskell at earthlink.net Wed Jun 22 05:05:54 2011 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:05:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel nut In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E01CC92.8050807@earthlink.net> Ira, I doubt that you'll be able to find a die at the local hardware store. The non-adjustable column I have isn't in great shape either. The OD measures 0.775", but that's probably low. The pitch looks to be 20 TPI. 13/16-20? I don't find a match in the various British threads(BSF, BSC, BSPP, etc). It's not metric (20-1.25). If you have an extra nut, you could use it as a die by slitting it (split nut). Hopefully, someone will come up with a more definitive answer. Cheers, Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php On 06/22/2011 01:02 AM, I Erbs wrote: > Howdy, > Still plugging away on my BT7 > Right now I need the size and pitch of the steering wheel nut on a > non-adjustable column? > I think I found the nut, but the threads on the shaft don't look great and I > want to chase them with a die. > TIA From javrugtman at htcnet.org Wed Jun 22 06:38:03 2011 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:38:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel nut In-Reply-To: <4E01CC92.8050807@earthlink.net> References: <4E01CC92.8050807@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4E01E22B.4020009@htcnet.org> Had that same problem with my non adjustable column. Talked to Bruce Philips at Healey Surgeons; he recommended getting two nuts, using one as a die. Worked great. John 64/66 BJ8s On 6/22/2011 7:05 AM, Bob Haskell wrote: > Ira, > > I doubt that you'll be able to find a die at the local hardware store. > The non-adjustable column I have isn't in great shape either. The OD > measures 0.775", but that's probably low. The pitch looks to be 20 > TPI. 13/16-20? I don't find a match in the various British > threads(BSF, BSC, BSPP, etc). It's not metric (20-1.25). > > If you have an extra nut, you could use it as a die by slitting it > (split nut). > > Hopefully, someone will come up with a more definitive answer. > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar > http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php > > On 06/22/2011 01:02 AM, I Erbs wrote: >> Howdy, >> Still plugging away on my BT7 >> Right now I need the size and pitch of the steering wheel nut on a >> non-adjustable column? >> I think I found the nut, but the threads on the shaft don't look >> great and I >> want to chase them with a die. >> TIA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/javrugtman at htcnet.org From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Jun 22 06:42:04 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:42:04 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel nut In-Reply-To: <4E01CC92.8050807@earthlink.net> References: <4E01CC92.8050807@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4E01E31C.9060005@chello.nl> You could use a fine thread file to tidy up the thread. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jun 22 06:42:15 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:42:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E01E327.10203@comcast.net> The late Carroll Smith--well-known race chassis builder--hated 'em. I'll generally try to avoid them--esp. on Al or other soft metal--and use proper torque and threadlocker instead (Locktite threadlocker now comes as a tape that is almost as convenient as it is expensive). Note that in critical applications--head bolts/nuts, bearing caps, etc.--they're generally not used. However, I used torque/threadlocker only on my rear shock mounting bolts and one of them worked loose. Re-tightened with split washers and they've held for 15K miles or more. On my front shocks I use grade 8 flatwashers, threadlocker and nominal torque. Never had one work loose. Bob On 6/22/2011 2:52 AM, Derek Job wrote: > All, > > Yesterday must have been a slow day as I found myself googling 'spring > washers' in the interests of increasing my limited knowledge of all things > mechanical. > > One of the results was the artilce below, with video tests, which concludes > that under various circumstances,spring washers, as well as not preventing > screw loosening, can actually make it worse. > > Interesting stuff. What is the view of the list experts out there? > > http://www.boltscience.com/pages/helicalspringwashers.htm > > cheers > > Derek > _______________________________________________ > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 06:50:34 2011 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:50:34 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Derek, the effectiveness of a spring washers fully depends on its quality. A good spring washers is made out of spring steel, and the ends should show a sharp 'curl' upwards. With a good quality spring washer you can cut your skin. Unfortunately most of the usual spring washers only have ends cut at an angle and slightly offset ends - when you flatten them by tightening the nut they are as non-effective as a flat washer. Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 2011/6/22 Derek Job > All, > > Yesterday must have been a slow day as I found myself googling 'spring > washers' in the interests of increasing my limited knowledge of all things > mechanical. > > One of the results was the artilce below, with video tests, which concludes > that under various circumstances,spring washers, as well as not preventing > screw loosening, can actually make it worse. > > Interesting stuff. What is the view of the list experts out there? > > http://www.boltscience.com/pages/helicalspringwashers.htm > > cheers > > Derek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/j.aeckerlin at gmail.com From sbyers at ec.rr.com Wed Jun 22 07:11:27 2011 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:11:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Parts catalog PDFs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b901cc30dd$e50cd1b0$af267510$@rr.com> Jody, a few years ago John P. New was producing copies of the factory parts manuals on CD. I got one for BJ7/BJ8, which he did first. I don't know if he actually produced similar CDs for other models. I do know that someone in Europe got the BJ7/BJ8 manual from him recently. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jody Kerr Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:18 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Parts catalog PDFs Hey folks, I could swear that I had acquired some PDF versions of the factory parts catalogs at some point. I've searched all through my harddrive ane email, but can't seem to find them. I'm pretty certain I got them from someone on the list at some point. Anyone have them? Jody From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 07:20:51 2011 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:20:51 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Goodbye Message-ID: Dear friends, After close to ten years I regret having to advise you that I will no longer be participating in this forum. Even worse: I will not be a member of the Healey family any more - I just sold my BJ8 to a Swiss enthusiast which I happened to meet here in Holland. The reason for the sale is purely financial: For over three years now I have been trying to sell one of the two houses which I own, but the housing market in this country is nearly dead and I don't see any improvement in the near future. Two houses mean double charges and taxes and as I'm retired I'm depending on a State pension plus a private pension and that's unfortunately insufficient . I cannot say how much I've enjoyed the participation in this list. I not only had the pleasure of some visits from USA list members while visiting Europe, I also bought and sold various bits and pieces and even got some items free of charge. There is an great sense of friendship on this list. I also enjoyed an enormous amount of written help from a large number of listers during my 7 year BJ8 restoration and I would like to especially say 'thank you' to Rich Chrysler and Steve Byers for their support and assistance. Mark Bradakis: thank you for keeping this fantastic list on the air. (The above does not mean I won't get my hands dirty any more: a friend of mine just bought a Volvo 1800E and I've promised him that I will look after the technical side of that animal.) Goodbye to you all, thank you and so long! Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands No 1964 BJ8 29432 any more From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jun 22 07:42:03 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:42:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel nut In-Reply-To: <4E01E22B.4020009@htcnet.org> References: <4E01CC92.8050807@earthlink.net> <4E01E22B.4020009@htcnet.org> Message-ID: <4E01F12B.6070505@comcast.net> My mechanic father showed me an old mechanics' trick: take an extra nut and file or hacksaw 3-4 grooves across (perpendicular to) the threads. Makes a reasonably effective die. Bob On 6/22/2011 5:38 AM, John Vrugtman wrote: > Had that same problem with my non adjustable column. Talked to Bruce Philips at Healey Surgeons; he recommended > getting two nuts, using one as a die. Worked great. > > John > 64/66 BJ8s > > On 6/22/2011 7:05 AM, Bob Haskell wrote: >> Ira, >> >> I doubt that you'll be able to find a die at the local hardware store. The non-adjustable column I have isn't in >> great shape either. The OD measures 0.775", but that's probably low. The pitch looks to be 20 TPI. 13/16-20? I >> don't find a match in the various British threads(BSF, BSC, BSPP, etc). It's not metric (20-1.25). >> >> If you have an extra nut, you could use it as a die by slitting it (split nut). >> >> Hopefully, someone will come up with a more definitive answer. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bob Haskell >> AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar >> http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php >> -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 08:17:13 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:17:13 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] OD throttle switch Message-ID: Hi, I cannot figure out how the throttle swich was connected to the linkage system on my BN4. Can anybody help me with a good photo and/or description? Thanks: Gergo From walt2727 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 22 08:21:15 2011 From: walt2727 at yahoo.com (Walt Peterson) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Toyota Tranny Conversion: Message-ID: <198308.4066.qm@web161425.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> What is the alphanumeric for the correct trannymixer for the big Healey converson? Also, what is the best model, ratio, donor vehicle & signs that there is excessive wear? A good price? Tanks in advance, Walt From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jun 22 08:41:08 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Goodbye In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <725266532.1933852.1308753668015.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Jack, Very sorry to see you go. But, I wouldn't be surprised to see you come back to the 'Family' should things improve someday. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Dear friends, After close to ten years I regret having to advise you that I will no longer be participating in this forum. Even worse: I will not be a member of the Healey family any more - I just sold my BJ8 to a Swiss enthusiast which I happened to meet here in Holland. The reason for the sale is purely financial: For over three years now I have been trying to sell one of the two houses which I own, but the housing market in this country is nearly dead and I don't see any improvement in the near future. Two houses mean double charges and taxes and as I'm retired I'm depending on a State pension plus a private pension and that's unfortunately insufficient . I cannot say how much I've enjoyed the participation in this list. I not only had the pleasure of some visits from USA list members while visiting Europe, I also bought and sold various bits and pieces and even got some items free of charge. There is an great sense of friendship on this list. I also enjoyed an enormous amount of written help from a large number of listers during my 7 year BJ8 restoration and I would like to especially say 'thank you' to Rich Chrysler and Steve Byers for their support and assistance. Mark Bradakis: thank you for keeping this fantastic list on the air. (The above does not mean I won't get my hands dirty any more: a friend of mine just bought a Volvo 1800E and I've promised him that I will look after the technical side of that animal.) Goodbye to you all, thank you and so long! Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands No 1964 BJ8 29432 any more From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Jun 22 09:08:30 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:08:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Parts catalog PDFs In-Reply-To: <00b901cc30dd$e50cd1b0$af267510$@rr.com> References: <00b901cc30dd$e50cd1b0$af267510$@rr.com> Message-ID: <001701cc30ee$3f7bcf10$be736d30$@net> John New also did a CD of the BN7/BT7 series. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys Sent: 2011-06-22 9:11 To: 'Jody Kerr'; 'healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Parts catalog PDFs Jody, a few years ago John P. New was producing copies of the factory parts manuals on CD. I got one for BJ7/BJ8, which he did first. I don't know if he actually produced similar CDs for other models. I do know that someone in Europe got the BJ7/BJ8 manual from him recently. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jody Kerr Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:18 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Parts catalog PDFs Hey folks, I could swear that I had acquired some PDF versions of the factory parts catalogs at some point. I've searched all through my harddrive ane email, but can't seem to find them. I'm pretty certain I got them from someone on the list at some point. Anyone have them? Jody _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 09:11:32 2011 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:11:32 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Goodbye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: sorry to see you hit the road, jack!! good luck and bon voyage. cheers, jerry On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Jaap Aeckerlin wrote: > Dear friends, > After close to ten years I regret having to advise you that I will no > longer > be participating in this forum. Even worse: I will not be a member of the > Healey family any more - I just sold my BJ8 to a Swiss enthusiast which I > happened to meet here in Holland. > > The reason for the sale is purely financial: For over three years now I > have > been trying to sell one of the two houses which I own, but the housing > market in this country is nearly dead and I don't see any improvement in > the > near future. Two houses mean double charges and taxes and as I'm retired > I'm > depending on a State pension plus a private pension and that's > unfortunately > insufficient . > > I cannot say how much I've enjoyed the participation in this list. I not > only had the pleasure of some visits from USA list members while visiting > Europe, I also bought and sold various bits and pieces and even got some > items free of charge. There is an great sense of friendship on this list. > > I also enjoyed an enormous amount of written help from a large number of > listers during my 7 year BJ8 restoration and I would like to especially > say > 'thank you' to Rich Chrysler and Steve Byers for their support and > assistance. > > Mark Bradakis: thank you for keeping this fantastic list on the air. > > (The above does not mean I won't get my hands dirty any more: a friend of > mine just bought a Volvo 1800E and I've promised him that I will look after > the technical side of that animal.) > > Goodbye to you all, thank you and so long! > > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > No 1964 BJ8 29432 any more > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From jstmorris at yahoo.com Wed Jun 22 09:24:12 2011 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Parts catalog PDFs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <942203.84862.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Good DayB Jody;B B B John New out of London, Ontario, Canada has produced a number of digital parts lists for the Austin Healey.B Check out his website at http://www.lbcdigital.com B B B If you go to http://www.lbcdigital.com/lbcpartslist/ B you will find a functioning version of the Mechanical & Body Parts Lists, Austin Healey 3000 (Series BJ7 & BJ8).B B B However, its illustration images have lover quality than those on the CD and are only found for the B Explanatory and Engine Sections; images in the other sections are not displayed. B I obtained a copy of the parts list for the BN7 / BT7 a number of years ago and am a satisfied customer. B --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada;B b60 MkI BN7 & b62 MkII BT7 B B B B B B B B B B B B B - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --- On Tue, 6/21/11, Jody Kerr wrote: <> From steveg at abrazosdata.com Wed Jun 22 09:33:27 2011 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve Gerow) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:33:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Bolt Science site & lock washers Message-ID: <003b01cc30f1$bc1c3ac0$3454b040$@com> Many thanks to Derek Job for pointing out the very interesting Bolt Science site! Have to say, though, the original Healey lock washers with the barb on the end _do_ seem to work. Loosening them makes an audible snap when the nut breaks loose and the barb digs in to the nut. Springwise they look as good as new - seem to be made of very high quality steel. On the other hand, the split ring lock washers on my Toyota trans are totally flat and appear to be completely worthless. Am curious how other lock washers - such as inside & outside stars and belleville & wave washers - hold compared to split rings. Didn't see any discussion of those on the Bolt Science site. FWIW - I've used bellevilles on my front upper shock bolts for several years and they've never loosened. I also use them on any aluminum and on the rear axle pumpkin with rubber o-rings underneath to prevent leakage. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA, USA BN6 From derek.c.job at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 10:05:24 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:05:24 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Goodbye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jaap Very sorry to hear that you no longer have a Healey, but no need for you to leave the list. I went through a period of about 2 years, of being on the list but not having a car. Things will change, you'll finally sell a house and get another Healey, and you will still have maintained contact with everyone. all the best Derek On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Jaap Aeckerlin wrote: > Dear friends, > After close to ten years I regret having to advise you that I will no > longer > be participating in this forum. Even worse: I will not be a member of the > Healey family any more - I just sold my BJ8 to a Swiss enthusiast which I > happened to meet here in Holland. > > The reason for the sale is purely financial: For over three years now I > have > been trying to sell one of the two houses which I own, but the housing > market in this country is nearly dead and I don't see any improvement in > the > near future. Two houses mean double charges and taxes and as I'm retired > I'm > depending on a State pension plus a private pension and that's > unfortunately > insufficient . > > I cannot say how much I've enjoyed the participation in this list. I not > only had the pleasure of some visits from USA list members while visiting > Europe, I also bought and sold various bits and pieces and even got some > items free of charge. There is an great sense of friendship on this list. > > I also enjoyed an enormous amount of written help from a large number of > listers during my 7 year BJ8 restoration and I would like to especially > say > 'thank you' to Rich Chrysler and Steve Byers for their support and > assistance. > > Mark Bradakis: thank you for keeping this fantastic list on the air. > > (The above does not mean I won't get my hands dirty any more: a friend of > mine just bought a Volvo 1800E and I've promised him that I will look after > the technical side of that animal.) > > Goodbye to you all, thank you and so long! > > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > No 1964 BJ8 29432 any more > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 10:13:59 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 00:13:59 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Goodbye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jack - I am really sorry to hear this, esp. after the beautiful job you did on your BJ8, and your friendly and frequent participation on this list and unflappable approach to it all. The new owner is a lucky person and I hope (s)he paid top dollar... errr... euro for your car... Alan On 6/22/11, Jaap Aeckerlin wrote: > Dear friends, > After close to ten years I regret having to advise you that I will no longer > be participating in this forum. Even worse: I will not be a member of the > Healey family any more - I just sold my BJ8 to a Swiss enthusiast which I > happened to meet here in Holland. > > The reason for the sale is purely financial: For over three years now I have > been trying to sell one of the two houses which I own, but the housing > market in this country is nearly dead and I don't see any improvement in the > near future. Two houses mean double charges and taxes and as I'm retired I'm > depending on a State pension plus a private pension and that's unfortunately > insufficient . > > I cannot say how much I've enjoyed the participation in this list. I not > only had the pleasure of some visits from USA list members while visiting > Europe, I also bought and sold various bits and pieces and even got some > items free of charge. There is an great sense of friendship on this list. > > I also enjoyed an enormous amount of written help from a large number of > listers during my 7 year BJ8 restoration and I would like to especially say > 'thank you' to Rich Chrysler and Steve Byers for their support and > assistance. > > Mark Bradakis: thank you for keeping this fantastic list on the air. > > (The above does not mean I won't get my hands dirty any more: a friend of > mine just bought a Volvo 1800E and I've promised him that I will look after > the technical side of that animal.) > > Goodbye to you all, thank you and so long! > > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > No 1964 BJ8 29432 any more > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 10:24:57 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:24:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Toyota Tranny Conversion: In-Reply-To: <198308.4066.qm@web161425.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <198308.4066.qm@web161425.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Toyota does not mark their trannies. A Supra box is best. Tracy Drummond has great article on conversion at www.healey6.com. john sim's site Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 22, 2011 8:16 AM, "Walt Peterson" wrote: > > What is the alphanumeric for the correct trannymixer for the big Healey > converson? Also, what is the best model, ratio, donor vehicle & signs that > there is excessive wear? A good price? > > Tanks in advance, > > Walt > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From healeyron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 22 10:36:47 2011 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] grease guns In-Reply-To: References: <11146.71407.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4E0139E8.1070509@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <510521.38958.qm@web161020.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> you had a beard when you were a kid? ________________________________ From: I Erbs To: Mr. Bill Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 11:24:17 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] grease guns When I was a kid doing lube and oul changes, I was lubing an old Studebaker. It must have had 40 zerks. The gun broke when I was under it and my face aNd hair was coated in gold lithium grease...took for ever to wash it out of my beard and hair..... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 21, 2011 6:07 PM, "Mr. Bill" wrote: > Bert, > > IMHO I would get an air powered one. In my experience, unless you're > Hulk Hogan, you can't get enough pressure with a pistol grip and unless > you have the car on a rack, you won't have enough space for a > lever-action. Another problem with the lever is that often the fitting > will come off the nipple while your hands are occupied pumping. But, I > have never used a pneumatic grease gun. I had a brand-new one on the > shelf when my wheelchair grabbed me by the ass. > > HTH & good luck, > > Bill > '53 BN1 > '61 BT7 > > On 6/21/2011 2:24 PM, Bert Van Brande wrote: >> Grease guns, such simple tools yet the 2 I bought failed miserably one after the other. The first one leaked from a hole in side of the tube, the second one leaked from about every orifice. After some online research it seems that there are still some good guns made. Grease guns with some good reviews: plews, alemite, lincoln. The price is actually not that much higher than the auto-parts store brands. >> >> It's just hard to figure where they're actually manufactured. Not one spec sheet mentions this detail. I am currently leaning towards buying an Alemite Professional 500 >> >> I'd like to hear if anybody has good experience with these guns. Do you prefer lever guns or pistol grip? Also what kind of extension do you prefer for the Healey: rigid or flexible? >> >> all input appreciated. >> >> bert >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bn1 at pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyron at yahoo.com From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 22 10:15:50 2011 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:15:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Parts catalog PDFs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20110622091504.0208b298@pop.att.yahoo.com> Jody, Here's the link: http://www.lbcdigital.com/ John At 05:18 PM 6/21/2011 -0700, Jody Kerr wrote: >Hey folks, > >I could swear that I had acquired some PDF versions of the factory >parts catalogs at some point. I've searched all through my harddrive >ane email, but can't seem to find them. > >I'm pretty certain I got them from someone on the list at some point. >Anyone have them? > >Jody From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 22 10:26:48 2011 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:26:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Re: steering wheel nut Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20110622092341.020b39e0@pop.att.yahoo.com> There are at least two thread restoration files available. One is for 11, 12, 16, 18, 13, 14, 20 and 24 TPI the other is for 9, 10, 12, 16, 20, 27, 28 and 32 TPI. I found both at local hardware stores although the later one is harder to find. John >On 06/22/2011 01:02 AM, I Erbs wrote: >>Howdy, >>Still plugging away on my BT7 >>Right now I need the size and pitch of the steering wheel nut on a >>non-adjustable column? >>I think I found the nut, but the threads on the shaft don't look great and I >>want to chase them with a die. >>TIA From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Jun 22 10:43:51 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:43:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Parts catalog PDFs In-Reply-To: <001701cc30ee$3f7bcf10$be736d30$@net> References: <00b901cc30dd$e50cd1b0$af267510$@rr.com> <001701cc30ee$3f7bcf10$be736d30$@net> Message-ID: <017701cc30fb$937e8a50$ba7b9ef0$@verizon.net> GO to: http://www.lbcdigital.com/ John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Chrysler Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:09 AM To: 'BJ8 Healeys'; 'Jody Kerr'; 'healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Parts catalog PDFs John New also did a CD of the BN7/BT7 series. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys Sent: 2011-06-22 9:11 To: 'Jody Kerr'; 'healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Parts catalog PDFs Jody, a few years ago John P. New was producing copies of the factory parts manuals on CD. I got one for BJ7/BJ8, which he did first. I don't know if he actually produced similar CDs for other models. I do know that someone in Europe got the BJ7/BJ8 manual from him recently. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jody Kerr Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:18 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Parts catalog PDFs Hey folks, I could swear that I had acquired some PDF versions of the factory parts catalogs at some point. I've searched all through my harddrive ane email, but can't seem to find them. I'm pretty certain I got them from someone on the list at some point. Anyone have them? Jody From ah3000me at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 10:45:58 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:45:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] brake pipe threaded ends In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to Tom, Ira, Bob, David, John, Grego.. The line was frozen to the nut in the caliper, and I finally had to sacrifice the curly brake line to unscrew the fitting. Although the local parts stores didn't have a brake line with our fittings, I borrowed a flare tool from the parts store, reused my old fittings, and replaced the double flare with a bubble flare on the caliper side of the line. Thanks for all your advice. - Tom On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Tom wrote: > Hi, > > I'm removing my late BJ8's front calipers, and the nut and brake line into > the caliper are stuck. The nut's threads in the caliper are OK, but the > nut and brake line seem frozen. > > Any ideas on getting this unstuck. If I end up twisting the nut off the > brake line, can I run to Napa and get a short piece of brake line and bend > to fit? Or are the threads a vintage British size? > > thanks, > > Tom From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 11:25:17 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:25:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel nut In-Reply-To: <4E01E31C.9060005@chello.nl> References: <4E01CC92.8050807@earthlink.net> <4E01E31C.9060005@chello.nl> Message-ID: My main issue is not sure I found the right nut for the wheel. It is big enough, but seems to be the wrong thread as it only goes on a couple of threads and then cocks over a few degrees. I'll keep looking around my garage fro another similarly sized nut and see what happens. Thanks for the ideas. 2011/6/22 Oudesluys > You could use a fine thread file to tidy up the thread. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Jun 22 11:27:03 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:27:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Goodbye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <018101cc3101$9ab47db0$d01d7910$@verizon.net> Why not stay on the list for the entertainment value. Also, you possess knowledge of Healeys that is of value even if you no longer have one. Who knows, you might get another one some day. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jaap Aeckerlin Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:21 AM To: Healey forum Subject: [Healeys] Goodbye Dear friends, After close to ten years I regret having to advise you that I will no longer be participating in this forum. Even worse: I will not be a member of the Healey family any more - I just sold my BJ8 to a Swiss enthusiast which I happened to meet here in Holland. The reason for the sale is purely financial: For over three years now I have been trying to sell one of the two houses which I own, but the housing market in this country is nearly dead and I don't see any improvement in the near future. Two houses mean double charges and taxes and as I'm retired I'm depending on a State pension plus a private pension and that's unfortunately insufficient . I cannot say how much I've enjoyed the participation in this list. I not only had the pleasure of some visits from USA list members while visiting Europe, I also bought and sold various bits and pieces and even got some items free of charge. There is an great sense of friendship on this list. I also enjoyed an enormous amount of written help from a large number of listers during my 7 year BJ8 restoration and I would like to especially say 'thank you' to Rich Chrysler and Steve Byers for their support and assistance. Mark Bradakis: thank you for keeping this fantastic list on the air. (The above does not mean I won't get my hands dirty any more: a friend of mine just bought a Volvo 1800E and I've promised him that I will look after the technical side of that animal.) Goodbye to you all, thank you and so long! Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands No 1964 BJ8 29432 any more _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 12:16:28 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:16:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Toyota Tranny Conversion: In-Reply-To: <198308.4066.qm@web161425.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <198308.4066.qm@web161425.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: http://webpages.charter.net/bighealey/smitty/smitty2.htm Take a look, here's another site with the article On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Walt Peterson wrote: > > What is the alphanumeric for the correct trannymixer for the big Healey > converson? Also, what is the best model, ratio, donor vehicle & signs that > there is excessive wear? A good price? > > Tanks in advance, > > Walt > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From mgcharlie at comcast.net Wed Jun 22 12:26:43 2011 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:26:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Toyota Tranny Conversion: In-Reply-To: <198308.4066.qm@web161425.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <198308.4066.qm@web161425.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E0233E3.7050403@comcast.net> Walt, Most think that the W58 is best, though many are happy with other aluminum cased W transmissions. The W58 was used on the non-turbo Supras of the early '80s and also some Celicas before they changed to front wheel drive. There are detail differences between them, besides ratios. Check these links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_W_transmission http://www.timken.com/en-us/products/bearings/productlist/automotivekits/dtcomponents/lightduty/transmission/Documents/toyldt.htm http://www.midwesttrans.com/diagrams_56-57.htm http://www.max-boost.co.uk/max-boost/resources/SUPRA_MKIV/TRANSMISSION_SERVICING_MT.PDF http://triumph.daveola.com/Album/Transmission-Conversion/W58-Transmission-Manual/ http://www.eaglegatellc.com/Toyota_W58_5_Speed_Trans.html http://www.northbaymotorsports.com/gearboxes.htm Pete Delaney, owner of the Smitty conversion can also supply good information. They show up regularly on Ebay. Most are local pickup only. I got mine for $51, but most pay $200 and up. Some Ebay sellers think their transmissions are made of gold and want $1,995 or something crazy. It would make sense to search locally in all of the junk yards. Condition is a crap shoot, but they are robust transmissions and easily go 200,000 miles. I think that mine had 65 K on it. I was very lucky. Charlie On 6/22/2011 10:21 AM, Walt Peterson wrote: > > What is the alphanumeric for the correct trannymixer for the big Healey > converson? Also, what is the best model, ratio, donor vehicle& signs that > there is excessive wear? A good price? > > Tanks in advance, > > Walt > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Wed Jun 22 12:32:36 2011 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:32:36 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel nut In-Reply-To: References: <4E01CC92.8050807@earthlink.net> <4E01E31C.9060005@chello.nl> Message-ID: <835F33CE-DA56-48B8-9686-E9FDF3D2BF8E@bornet.net> You could also try a thread file on the shaft. Magnus Karlsson Sweden www.concourshealeys.com 22 jun 2011 kl. 19.25 skrev I Erbs: > My main issue is not sure I found the right nut for the wheel. It is big > enough, but seems to be the wrong thread as it only goes on a couple of > threads and then cocks over a few degrees. I'll keep looking around my > garage fro another similarly sized nut and see what happens. > Thanks for the ideas. > > 2011/6/22 Oudesluys > >> You could use a fine thread file to tidy up the thread. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL >> > > > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/magnuskarlsson at bornet.net From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Wed Jun 22 12:35:53 2011 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:35:53 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Goodbye Message-ID: <1be69.7c4501f3.3b339009@aol.com> I agree with John ... don't leave the list, add when you can and enjoy the banter. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 6/22/2011 11:32:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ahbn6 at verizon.net writes: Why not stay on the list for the entertainment value. Also, you possess knowledge of Healeys that is of value even if you no longer have one. Who knows, you might get another one some day. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jaap Aeckerlin Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:21 AM To: Healey forum Subject: [Healeys] Goodbye Dear friends, After close to ten years I regret having to advise you that I will no longer be participating in this forum. Even worse: I will not be a member of the Healey family any more - I just sold my BJ8 to a Swiss enthusiast which I happened to meet here in Holland. The reason for the sale is purely financial: For over three years now I have been trying to sell one of the two houses which I own, but the housing market in this country is nearly dead and I don't see any improvement in the near future. Two houses mean double charges and taxes and as I'm retired I'm depending on a State pension plus a private pension and that's unfortunately insufficient . I cannot say how much I've enjoyed the participation in this list. I not only had the pleasure of some visits from USA list members while visiting Europe, I also bought and sold various bits and pieces and even got some items free of charge. There is an great sense of friendship on this list. I also enjoyed an enormous amount of written help from a large number of listers during my 7 year BJ8 restoration and I would like to especially say 'thank you' to Rich Chrysler and Steve Byers for their support and assistance. Mark Bradakis: thank you for keeping this fantastic list on the air. (The above does not mean I won't get my hands dirty any more: a friend of mine just bought a Volvo 1800E and I've promised him that I will look after the technical side of that animal.) Goodbye to you all, thank you and so long! Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands No 1964 BJ8 29432 any more _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/atightprod at aol.com From nconklin at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 22 13:12:52 2011 From: nconklin at sbcglobal.net (nconklin at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] column bolt thread Message-ID: <978302.85344.qm@web83716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> BSCY / 20TPI is the ticket for cleaning up the threads, works just fine....Nick C. From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 17:51:46 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:51:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] column bolt thread In-Reply-To: <978302.85344.qm@web83716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <978302.85344.qm@web83716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks to all who replied. I was able to clean the threads and nut does in deed work. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 22, 2011 12:43 PM, "nconklin at sbcglobal.net" wrote: > BSCY / 20TPI is the ticket for cleaning up the threads, works just fine....Nick C. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From rchaskell at earthlink.net Wed Jun 22 18:46:39 2011 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:46:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] column bolt thread In-Reply-To: <978302.85344.qm@web83716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <978302.85344.qm@web83716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E028CEF.10701@earthlink.net> Nick, I didn't realize that there was a fine and a coarse thread series for British Standard Cycle. Thanks for pointing that out. 13/16-20 is a valid BSC coarse thread size. Cheers, Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php On 06/22/2011 03:12 PM, nconklin at sbcglobal.net wrote: > BSCY / 20TPI is the ticket for cleaning up the threads, works just fine....Nick C. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 19:55:29 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:55:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] column bolt thread In-Reply-To: <4E028CEF.10701@earthlink.net> References: <978302.85344.qm@web83716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4E028CEF.10701@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Nick & Bob, I'm a bit confused here. As far as I am aware, BSC does not come in a 13/16 " size. While there appears to be a select few sizes that come in both 20 and 26 TPI, it does not include 13/16". In fact, my reference charts show that the only sizes in BSC that have both a fine and coarse thread are... 7/16", 1/2", 9/16", 5/8", 11/16", 3/4". I missed the history on this thread but we are talking about a British Bike here and not a Healey? Nick do you have a copy of the reference chart you got this information from? I'd like to include it in my reference material since I'm writing another article on British fasteners for Austin Healeys. Thanks, Curt On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Bob Haskell wrote: > Nick, > > I didn't realize that there was a fine and a coarse thread series for > British Standard Cycle. Thanks for pointing that out. 13/16-20 is a valid > BSC coarse thread size. > > Cheers, > > Bob Haskell > AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar > http://www.ciahc.org/registry_**3000mk1.php > > > On 06/22/2011 03:12 PM, nconklin at sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> BSCY / 20TPI is the ticket for cleaning up the threads, works just >> fine....Nick C. >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/healeys/rchaskell@**earthlink.net >> > ______________________________**_________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/cnaarndt@**gmail.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 22:04:30 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:04:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] interior question Message-ID: I sent the following email to MossMotors, technical, but hopefully someone out there can answer more quickly... -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 22:32:22 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:32:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] column bolt thread In-Reply-To: References: <978302.85344.qm@web83716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4E028CEF.10701@earthlink.net> Message-ID: OK Guys, I just checked my BN1 steering column, and it looks to be closer to 3/4" x 20 TPI which IS a valid BSC (BSCy) thread. I'm just amazed that they used a cycle thread for this application. I've attached a copy of my BSC reference chart. Cheers, Curt On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Nick & Bob, > > I'm a bit confused here. As far as I am aware, BSC does not come in a > 13/16 " size. While there appears to be a select few sizes that come in > both 20 and 26 TPI, it does not include 13/16". In fact, my reference > charts show that the only sizes in BSC that have both a fine and coarse > thread are... 7/16", 1/2", 9/16", 5/8", 11/16", 3/4". > > I missed the history on this thread but we are talking about a British Bike > here and not a Healey? > > Nick do you have a copy of the reference chart you got this information > from? I'd like to include it in my reference material since I'm writing > another article on British fasteners for Austin Healeys. > > Thanks, > > Curt > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Bob Haskell wrote: > >> Nick, >> >> I didn't realize that there was a fine and a coarse thread series for >> British Standard Cycle. Thanks for pointing that out. 13/16-20 is a valid >> BSC coarse thread size. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bob Haskell >> AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar >> http://www.ciahc.org/registry_**3000mk1.php >> >> >> On 06/22/2011 03:12 PM, nconklin at sbcglobal.net wrote: >> >>> BSCY / 20TPI is the ticket for cleaning up the threads, works just >>> fine....Nick C. >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >>> options/healeys/rchaskell@**earthlink.net >>> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/healeys/cnaarndt@**gmail.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of BSC Data, Classic Fasteners, Australia.pdf] From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 23:11:34 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:11:34 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] column bolt thread In-Reply-To: References: <978302.85344.qm@web83716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4E028CEF.10701@earthlink.net> Message-ID: You have to mount your front wheel fork bearings somehow... On 6/23/11, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > OK Guys, > > I just checked my BN1 steering column, and it looks to be closer to 3/4" x > 20 TPI which IS a valid BSC (BSCy) thread. I'm just amazed that they used > a cycle thread for this application. > > I've attached a copy of my BSC reference chart. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > >> Nick & Bob, >> >> I'm a bit confused here. As far as I am aware, BSC does not come in a >> 13/16 " size. While there appears to be a select few sizes that come in >> both 20 and 26 TPI, it does not include 13/16". In fact, my reference >> charts show that the only sizes in BSC that have both a fine and coarse >> thread are... 7/16", 1/2", 9/16", 5/8", 11/16", 3/4". >> >> I missed the history on this thread but we are talking about a British >> Bike >> here and not a Healey? >> >> Nick do you have a copy of the reference chart you got this information >> from? I'd like to include it in my reference material since I'm writing >> another article on British fasteners for Austin Healeys. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Curt >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Bob Haskell >> wrote: >> >>> Nick, >>> >>> I didn't realize that there was a fine and a coarse thread series for >>> British Standard Cycle. Thanks for pointing that out. 13/16-20 is a >>> valid >>> BSC coarse thread size. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Bob Haskell >>> AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar >>> http://www.ciahc.org/registry_**3000mk1.php >>> >>> >>> On 06/22/2011 03:12 PM, nconklin at sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> >>>> BSCY / 20TPI is the ticket for cleaning up the threads, works just >>>> fine....Nick C. >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: >>>> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >>>> options/healeys/rchaskell@**earthlink.net >>>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> Donate: >>> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >>> options/healeys/cnaarndt@**gmail.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name > of BSC Data, Classic Fasteners, Australia.pdf] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 23:54:21 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:54:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvous weather Message-ID: Mid 70s all week, possible rain, Wed. Welcome to the pacific northwest Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to writemid From rchaskell at earthlink.net Thu Jun 23 00:07:34 2011 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:07:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] column bolt thread In-Reply-To: References: <978302.85344.qm@web83716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4E028CEF.10701@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4E02D826.9040308@earthlink.net> Curt, I don't know if the BN1 column thread is the same as one on the 6 cylinder non-adjustable column. I shouldn't have said that 13/16-20 is a valid size, as I haven't looked for a chart that lists it. I went by the fact that there's a 13/16-20 BSC die listed at British Tools and Fasteners - http://www.britishfasteners.com/index.php?crn=263 - at the bottom of the list (item 5735). Sorry, Bob Haskell AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php On 06/23/2011 12:32 AM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > OK Guys, > > I just checked my BN1 steering column, and it looks to be closer to 3/4" > x 20 TPI which IS a valid BSC (BSCy) thread. I'm just amazed that they > used a cycle thread for this application. > > I've attached a copy of my BSC reference chart. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt > wrote: > > Nick & Bob, > > I'm a bit confused here. As far as I am aware, BSC does not come > in a 13/16 " size. While there appears to be a select few sizes > that come in both 20 and 26 TPI, it does not include 13/16". In > fact, my reference charts show that the only sizes in BSC that have > both a fine and coarse thread are... 7/16", 1/2", 9/16", 5/8", > 11/16", 3/4". > > I missed the history on this thread but we are talking about a > British Bike here and not a Healey? > > Nick do you have a copy of the reference chart you got this > information from? I'd like to include it in my reference material > since I'm writing another article on British fasteners for Austin > Healeys. > > Thanks, > > Curt From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 22 18:27:57 2011 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:27:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20110622172637.0209d300@pop.att.yahoo.com> The spring washer is only there to hold the nut in place until the rust takes hold! John At 11:52 AM 6/22/2011 +0200, Derek Job wrote: >All, > >One of the results was the artilce below, with video tests, which concludes >that under various circumstances,spring washers, as well as not preventing >screw loosening, can actually make it worse. From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Jun 23 09:25:00 2011 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:25:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] interior question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F8E68FD-DF1D-4608-9F17-2BB25EA76687@cox.net> There are certainly right and left door panels. They are mirror duplicates of each other. Wilko On Jun 22, 2011, at 9:04 PM, I Erbs wrote: > I sent the following email to MossMotors, technical, but hopefully > someone > out there can answer more quickly... > > I have Austin Healey 3000 BT7. I bought an interior kit from you > through a > vendor. > I am working on my doors. I am installing the door lining panels. It > would > seem that I got two of the same handed upper panels. They both have > the > notch on the same end and the wider side on the opposing end. It > would seem > that there needs to be a right and left door piece. Can you send > photos of > how they should be installed? > A friend is coming over Friday to help, but he has only interior > knowledge > and not Healey specific knowledge. > Thanks> > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 09:27:00 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:27:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] interior question In-Reply-To: <2F8E68FD-DF1D-4608-9F17-2BB25EA76687@cox.net> References: <2F8E68FD-DF1D-4608-9F17-2BB25EA76687@cox.net> Message-ID: I figured as much. Waiting to hear from Moss. Thanks guys for the reply Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 23, 2011 8:25 AM, "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" wrote: > There are certainly right and left door panels. They are mirror > duplicates of each other. > > Wilko > > On Jun 22, 2011, at 9:04 PM, I Erbs wrote: > >> I sent the following email to MossMotors, technical, but hopefully >> someone >> out there can answer more quickly... >> >> > I have Austin Healey 3000 BT7. I bought an interior kit from you >> through a >> vendor. >> I am working on my doors. I am installing the door lining panels. It >> would >> seem that I got two of the same handed upper panels. They both have >> the >> notch on the same end and the wider side on the opposing end. It >> would seem >> that there needs to be a right and left door piece. Can you send >> photos of >> how they should be installed? >> A friend is coming over Friday to help, but he has only interior >> knowledge >> and not Healey specific knowledge. >> Thanks> >> >> -- >> Ira Erbs >> IT CONSULTANT >> Portland, OR >> >> We can't solve problems by using the same kind of >> thinking we used when we created them. >> -Albert Einstein >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Jun 23 10:30:54 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:30:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] interior question In-Reply-To: References: <2F8E68FD-DF1D-4608-9F17-2BB25EA76687@cox.net> Message-ID: <004101cc31c2$ec8de380$c5a9aa80$@net> Ira, Those inner upper door panels can be very deceiving. They are handed but it's pretty subtle. The ends need to fold inwards and the entire panel will need to bow considerably to get it to fit into the door. There will be a cut out in the rear panel wing for the latch rod to access the release at the back of the door. The panel will need to be pushed way up into the door and the bottom edge will be the guiding factor. It will need to overlap the lower inner panel and end up parallel with the wood insert in the door brace so the screws can pass through the outer and inner panel and screw into the wood. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: 2011-06-23 11:27 To: Eric (Rick) Wilkins Cc: healey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] interior question I figured as much. Waiting to hear from Moss. Thanks guys for the reply Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 23, 2011 8:25 AM, "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" wrote: > There are certainly right and left door panels. They are mirror > duplicates of each other. > > Wilko > > On Jun 22, 2011, at 9:04 PM, I Erbs wrote: > >> I sent the following email to MossMotors, technical, but hopefully >> someone >> out there can answer more quickly... >> >> > I have Austin Healey 3000 BT7. I bought an interior kit from you >> through a >> vendor. >> I am working on my doors. I am installing the door lining panels. It >> would >> seem that I got two of the same handed upper panels. They both have >> the >> notch on the same end and the wider side on the opposing end. It >> would seem >> that there needs to be a right and left door piece. Can you send >> photos of >> how they should be installed? >> A friend is coming over Friday to help, but he has only interior >> knowledge >> and not Healey specific knowledge. >> Thanks> >> >> -- >> Ira Erbs >> IT CONSULTANT >> Portland, OR >> >> We can't solve problems by using the same kind of >> thinking we used when we created them. >> -Albert Einstein >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 23 10:52:03 2011 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:52:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] interior question In-Reply-To: <2F8E68FD-DF1D-4608-9F17-2BB25EA76687@cox.net> References: , <2F8E68FD-DF1D-4608-9F17-2BB25EA76687@cox.net> Message-ID: I did get an carpet kit from them awhile back and they had the emergency brake portion on the wrong side. They made it good however... Richard of KY BN7#440 From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 11:01:35 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:01:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] interior question In-Reply-To: <004101cc31c2$ec8de380$c5a9aa80$@net> References: <2F8E68FD-DF1D-4608-9F17-2BB25EA76687@cox.net> <004101cc31c2$ec8de380$c5a9aa80$@net> Message-ID: Once again Rich Chrysler to the rescue! Thanks for helping with the orientation and technique. They fit with a bit of force and finesse, like many parts on our beloved Marque. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Rich Chrysler wrote: > Ira, > > Those inner upper door panels can be very deceiving. They are handed but > it's pretty subtle. The ends need to fold inwards and the entire panel will > need to bow considerably to get it to fit into the door. There will be a > cut > out in the rear panel wing for the latch rod to access the release at the > back of the door. The panel will need to be pushed way up into the door and > the bottom edge will be the guiding factor. It will need to overlap the > lower inner panel and end up parallel with the wood insert in the door > brace > so the screws can pass through the outer and inner panel and screw into the > wood. > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: 2011-06-23 11:27 > To: Eric (Rick) Wilkins > Cc: healey help > Subject: Re: [Healeys] interior question > > I figured as much. Waiting to hear from Moss. > Thanks guys for the reply > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > > On Jun 23, 2011 8:25 AM, "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" wrote: > > There are certainly right and left door panels. They are mirror > > duplicates of each other. > > > > Wilko > > > > On Jun 22, 2011, at 9:04 PM, I Erbs wrote: > > > >> I sent the following email to MossMotors, technical, but hopefully > >> someone > >> out there can answer more quickly... > >> > >> >> I have Austin Healey 3000 BT7. I bought an interior kit from you > >> through a > >> vendor. > >> I am working on my doors. I am installing the door lining panels. It > >> would > >> seem that I got two of the same handed upper panels. They both have > >> the > >> notch on the same end and the wider side on the opposing end. It > >> would seem > >> that there needs to be a right and left door piece. Can you send > >> photos of > >> how they should be installed? > >> A friend is coming over Friday to help, but he has only interior > >> knowledge > >> and not Healey specific knowledge. > >> Thanks> > >> > >> -- > >> Ira Erbs > >> IT CONSULTANT > >> Portland, OR > >> > >> We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > >> thinking we used when we created them. > >> -Albert Einstein > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Thu Jun 23 12:11:20 2011 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay In-Reply-To: <000001cc2e3f$4eb58cc0$ec20a640$@net> Message-ID: <1308852680.85853.YahooMailClassic@web130210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ebay #130534576987 has appearantly sold for $100K From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 14:04:38 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:04:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay In-Reply-To: <1308852680.85853.YahooMailClassic@web130210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000001cc2e3f$4eb58cc0$ec20a640$@net> <1308852680.85853.YahooMailClassic@web130210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi All, If someone on the list purchased this car, please contact me off list. I need to give you some important information about your purchase. Curt On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Jackson Krall wrote: > ebay #130534576987 has appearantly sold for $100K > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From djg at gavinassociates.com Thu Jun 23 14:09:14 2011 From: djg at gavinassociates.com (Dennis Gavin) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:09:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Screw thread type Message-ID: <00a301cc31e1$6d3d5380$47b7fa80$@gavinassociates.com> I have a 63 BJ7. The vent windows have a rubber tip on top of the window channel. The rubber is fastened with a screw. Can somebody advise what screw/thread size this is? Thank you in advance. Dennis Gavin 63BJ7 63 E Type 48 Jeepster From gardner5 at comcast.net Thu Jun 23 16:07:47 2011 From: gardner5 at comcast.net (gardner5 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <144270158.2215737.1308866867409.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Something is fishy here.B I contacted the seller about this car this morning via email, and this is his reply: Hey , The 100M did sell at $100,000 or at least I thought it had. Unfortunately I have one of the deadbeat ebay buyers who now cannot come up with the sales price and is trying to renegotiate the price down. I will tell you up front that right now I have offered to sell it to him for $88,000 versus his $80,000 new offer. I cannot do anything with ebay until tomorrow the 24th so have not relisted and not sure if I am going to as may simply keep it. If you have any interest at the above price let me know. Regards, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: "Jackson Krall" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:04:38 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay Hi All, If someone on the list purchased this car, please contact me off list. B I need to give you some important information about your purchase. Curt On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Jackson Krall wrote: > ebay #130534576987 has appearantly sold for $100K > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gardner5 at comcast.net From gardner5 at comcast.net Thu Jun 23 16:23:09 2011 From: gardner5 at comcast.net (gardner5 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:23:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Factory 100M on ebay In-Reply-To: <144270158.2215737.1308866867409.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <931194055.2216485.1308867789297.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Something is fishy here.B I contacted the seller about this car this morning via email, and this is his reply: Hey , The 100M did sell at $100,000 or at least I thought it had. Unfortunately I have one of the deadbeat ebay buyers who now cannot come up with the sales price and is trying to renegotiate the price down. I will tell you up front that right now I have offered to sell it to him for $88,000 versus his $80,000 new offer. I cannot do anything with ebay until tomorrow the 24th so have not relisted and not sure if I am going to as may simply keep it. If you have any interest at the above price let me know. Regards, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: "Jackson Krall" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:04:38 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay Hi All, If someone on the list purchased this car, please contact me off list. B I need to give you some important information about your purchase. Curt On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Jackson Krall wrote: > ebay #130534576987 has appearantly sold for $100K > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gardner5 at comcast.net From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Thu Jun 23 16:33:33 2011 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (Jose Vicente Vargas) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:33:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay In-Reply-To: <144270158.2215737.1308866867409.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <144270158.2215737.1308866867409.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <39E9640D-D4B6-48F0-8D08-AE828BE98BAD@yahoo.com> Curt Please do not keep the list in the dark.... We are all intrigued .... What is going on? Jose Sent from my iPad On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:07 PM, gardner5 at comcast.net wrote: > Something is fishy here.B I contacted the seller about this car this morning > via email, and this is his reply: > > > > Hey , > The 100M did sell at $100,000 or at least I thought it had. Unfortunately I > have one of the deadbeat > ebay buyers who now cannot come up with the sales price and is trying to > renegotiate the price down. > I will tell you up front that right now I have offered to sell it to him for > $88,000 versus his $80,000 > new offer. I cannot do anything with ebay until tomorrow the 24th so have not > relisted and not sure if > I am going to as may simply keep it. If you have any interest at the above > price let me know. > Regards, > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" > To: "Jackson Krall" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:04:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay > > Hi All, > > If someone on the list purchased this car, please contact me off list. B I > need to give you some important information about your purchase. > > Curt > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Jackson Krall > wrote: > >> ebay #130534576987 has appearantly sold for $100K >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation B $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gardner5 at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu Jun 23 17:02:17 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:02:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay In-Reply-To: <39E9640D-D4B6-48F0-8D08-AE828BE98BAD@yahoo.com> References: <144270158.2215737.1308866867409.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <39E9640D-D4B6-48F0-8D08-AE828BE98BAD@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <028301cc31f9$99899490$cc9cbdb0$@verizon.net> Jose, this has all the earmarks of a prospective buyer trying to pull a fast one on the seller. Happens more often than it should especially with cars. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jose Vicente Vargas Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 6:34 PM To: gardner5 at comcast.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay Curt Please do not keep the list in the dark.... We are all intrigued .... What is going on? Jose Sent from my iPad On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:07 PM, gardner5 at comcast.net wrote: > Something is fishy here.B I contacted the seller about this car this morning > via email, and this is his reply: > > > > Hey , > The 100M did sell at $100,000 or at least I thought it had. > Unfortunately I have one of the deadbeat ebay buyers who now cannot > come up with the sales price and is trying to renegotiate the price > down. > I will tell you up front that right now I have offered to sell it to > him for > $88,000 versus his $80,000 > new offer. I cannot do anything with ebay until tomorrow the 24th so > have not > relisted and not sure if > I am going to as may simply keep it. If you have any interest at the > above price let me know. > Regards, > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" > To: "Jackson Krall" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:04:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay > > Hi All, > > If someone on the list purchased this car, please contact me off list. > B I need to give you some important information about your purchase. > > Curt > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Jackson Krall > wrote: > >> ebay #130534576987 has appearantly sold for $100K >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B >> $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gardner5 at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From gardner5 at comcast.net Thu Jun 23 17:14:40 2011 From: gardner5 at comcast.net (gardner5 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay In-Reply-To: <028301cc31f9$99899490$cc9cbdb0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1633209226.2218762.1308870880775.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Or vice-versa onB the prospective buyer (alsoB known as a "mark" in this situation).B Anyone whoB keeps up with SportsCarMarket, has read the articles with these tactics.B Sounds like someone out there knows some historyB for this car that might shed some light on the true situation.B Joel B ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sims" To: "Jose Vicente Vargas" , gardner5 at comcast.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 4:02:17 PM Subject: RE: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay Jose, this has all the earmarks of a prospective buyer trying to pull a fast one on the seller. Happens more often than it should especially with cars. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ B http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jose Vicente Vargas Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 6:34 PM To: gardner5 at comcast.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay Curt Please do not keep the list in the dark.... We are all intrigued .... What is going on? Jose Sent from my iPad On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:07 PM, gardner5 at comcast.net wrote: > Something is fishy here.B B I contacted the seller about this car this morning > via email, and this is his reply: > > > > Hey , > The 100M did sell at $100,000 or at least I thought it had. > Unfortunately I have one of the deadbeat ebay buyers who now cannot > come up with the sales price and is trying to renegotiate the price > down. > I will tell you up front that right now I have offered to sell it to > him for > $88,000 versus his $80,000 > new offer. I cannot do anything with ebay until tomorrow the 24th so > have not > relisted and not sure if > I am going to as may simply keep it. If you have any interest at the > above price let me know. > Regards, > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" > To: "Jackson Krall" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:04:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Factory 100M on ebay > > Hi All, > > If someone on the list purchased this car, please contact me off list. > B I need to give you some important information about your purchase. > > Curt > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Jackson Krall > wrote: > >> ebay #130534576987 has appearantly sold for $100K >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B >> $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gardner5 at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 15:15:12 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:15:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor direction Message-ID: Is plug 2 to r or l of 1 Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 15:18:13 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:18:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] More info dizzy Message-ID: 6 cyl. Bt7 pertronix dizzy Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write6 From rpschauss at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 15:23:45 2011 From: rpschauss at gmail.com (Peter Schauss) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 23:23:45 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ad In-Reply-To: References: <431393.72277.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I saw the same add in the in the international Herald Tribune today. It is from Frederique Constant. -Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > No, it wasn't.... It was another one, possibly Chopard. > > On 6/22/11, Bob Brown wrote: >> Probably Frederique Constant they have sponsored many Healey events >> worldwide >> and have used Heaelys in the ads. >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: >> Alan Seigrist >> To: Healey >> Sent: >> Tue, June 21, 2011 10:47:28 AM >> Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ad >> >> Was just in Munich >> airport and saw a picture of just a corner of the >> windscreen and bonnet on an >> ad for a swiss watch company, I think. >> BJ7 or BJ8. Healey Blue. Only a fellow >> nerd would know the car from >> the very partial pic. >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile >> device From warthodson at aol.com Fri Jun 24 17:53:43 2011 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:53:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] More info dizzy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CE00E115D1643F-B70-1016A@webmail-m151.sysops.aol.com> That sounds like a trick question. Firing order is: 1,5,3,6,2,4 rotation is: CCW Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: I Erbs To: Ahealey help Sent: Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:18 pm Subject: [Healeys] More info dizzy 6 cyl. Bt7 pertronix dizzy Ira Erbs T Consultant ortland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because y phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write6 ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 18:09:20 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:09:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hot water tube route Message-ID: Ok, general thanks to all. If I see you at zrendezvous, I owe you a beer. Does it matter how i route my cappiliary tube under the dash? I see it can take a number of paths to the firewall hole. Right now it goes below wiper motor, behind heater mount. Then into hole. Should it go above wiper motor, et al. Special shout out to tich chrysler snd lin rose for being great resources Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri Jun 24 18:28:33 2011 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:28:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor direction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24FD88092C954E4CA6B5F75F5DAC0647@GregPC> Rotor rotates counterclockwise, firing order 1,5,3,6,2,4, not sure where 1 (i.e. top or bottom would make a difference on your your left or right question) sits on a six cylinder, but maybe someone else can suppply that information, but if you are sure about where 1 is and go counterclockwise following the fire order you should be fine. Greg Lemon From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jun 24 18:59:35 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:59:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor direction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001501cc32d3$2732f140$7598d3c0$@net> Ira, >From #1 lead, looking straight down on top of the distributor, the rotor on its shaft is going counter clockwise, therefore you'll have 1,5,3,6,4 and then 2. Therefore 2 would be just to the right (clockwise) of #1. Check out this picture. Your BT7 distributor cap and wires should look like this, and note that if you consider the coil lead as being at 12 o'clock, then #1 should always be at 1 o'clock. Makes things easy to remember. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: 2011-06-24 5:15 To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] Distributor direction Is plug 2 to r or l of 1 Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of apr10 020.jpg] From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Fri Jun 24 20:50:30 2011 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 02:50:30 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Firewall material Message-ID: Dear Listmates, What is that product that Home Depot sells that is similar to the original white asbestos firewall material. I know this has been discussed on the list a number of times in the past. I did not need it then so I did not make a note of the product name. Now, I need some of that stuff. Thanks, Richard Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 21:56:09 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:56:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Resto update 6/24 Message-ID: Well you cant blame a guy for trying... Status report... Harness is basically in. Need to install guages and switches and hook up. Doors are hung, but handles not installed. Tonnaue studs in place, so Ican close up interior. No carpet. Tranny tunnel still needs hole cut for sr5. No carbs or exhaust. Midas did honor warrenty and fixed some head pipe issues. A million little details atteded too, a million to go So my beast will arrive a Rendezvous on a trailer, but she is no trailer queen. Looking forward to meeting many of you. Scout camping this weekend. Will do a few more things Sunday night. See you soon Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 01:57:14 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:57:14 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Resto update 6/24 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice. You are allways a step in ahead of me. I have just started to install the gauges. But I have the carbs and exhaust. Good work! Gergo 2011/6/25 I Erbs > Well you cant blame a guy for trying... > Status report... > Harness is basically in. Need to install guages and switches and hook up. > Doors are hung, but handles not installed. > Tonnaue studs in place, so Ican close up interior. > No carpet. > Tranny tunnel still needs hole cut for sr5. > No carbs or exhaust. Midas did honor warrenty and fixed some head pipe > issues. A million little details atteded too, a million to go > So my beast will arrive a Rendezvous on a trailer, but she is no trailer > queen. > Looking forward to meeting many of you. Scout camping this weekend. Will do > a few more things Sunday night. > See you soon > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jun 25 01:58:44 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:58:44 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Hot water tube route In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E059534.9060709@chello.nl> Make sure it is well fixed along the path under the dashboard, along the firewall and on the full length of the engine. Add at least a double loop coil between engine and firewall. The soft copper capillary tube can easily harden and break/crack because of vibration. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Jun 25 04:37:15 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 06:37:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Firewall material In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02d501cc3323$d9e5a6c0$8db0f440$@verizon.net> Called Hardie Board. Used as a backing for tiles in showers, etc. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of richard mayor Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:51 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Firewall material Dear Listmates, What is that product that Home Depot sells that is similar to the original white asbestos firewall material. I know this has been discussed on the list a number of times in the past. I did not need it then so I did not make a note of the product name. Now, I need some of that stuff. Thanks, Richard Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 06:57:50 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 05:57:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Resto update 6/24 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6061440B-9D4D-44FB-8F18-9C0F1624864D@gmail.com> You have made amazing progress in a short time. I think of how much I have done in 18 months. You are doing fine. Many people take many years to complete what we have. Cheers I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jun 25, 2011, at 12:57 AM, Austin Healey wrote: > Nice. You are allways a step in ahead of me. I have just started to install the gauges. But I have the carbs and exhaust. > Good work! > > Gergo > > > 2011/6/25 I Erbs > Well you cant blame a guy for trying... > Status report... > Harness is basically in. Need to install guages and switches and hook up. > Doors are hung, but handles not installed. > Tonnaue studs in place, so Ican close up interior. > No carpet. > Tranny tunnel still needs hole cut for sr5. > No carbs or exhaust. Midas did honor warrenty and fixed some head pipe > issues. A million little details atteded too, a million to go > So my beast will arrive a Rendezvous on a trailer, but she is no trailer > queen. > Looking forward to meeting many of you. Scout camping this weekend. Will do > a few more things Sunday night. > See you soon > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 08:00:13 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:00:13 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Resto update 6/24 In-Reply-To: <6061440B-9D4D-44FB-8F18-9C0F1624864D@gmail.com> References: <6061440B-9D4D-44FB-8F18-9C0F1624864D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ira, Thanks for the kind words. Pushing hard - it is summertime, better bet it on the road as soon as possible. Although the progress is realy slow. It took me a day and a half to get the throttle linkage and thge OD switch work properly. (Many thanks for the help I have got here!) The new wiring loom is a bit different from the originalaround the gauges. It took some time to come up with the solution. Unfortuntly I ran out of bullet connectors, soo have to wait untill I recive the next order to finish it. Good luck with Your build! Gergo 2011/6/25 I Erbs > You have made amazing progress in a short time. I think of how much I have > done in 18 months. You are doing fine. Many people take many years to > complete what we have. > Cheers > > I Erbs > Sent from my iPod > > On Jun 25, 2011, at 12:57 AM, Austin Healey wrote: > > Nice. You are allways a step in ahead of me. I have just started to install > the gauges. But I have the carbs and exhaust. > Good work! > > Gergo > > > 2011/6/25 I Erbs < eyera3 at gmail.com> > >> Well you cant blame a guy for trying... >> Status report... >> Harness is basically in. Need to install guages and switches and hook up. >> Doors are hung, but handles not installed. >> Tonnaue studs in place, so Ican close up interior. >> No carpet. >> Tranny tunnel still needs hole cut for sr5. >> No carbs or exhaust. Midas did honor warrenty and fixed some head pipe >> issues. A million little details atteded too, a million to go >> So my beast will arrive a Rendezvous on a trailer, but she is no trailer >> queen. >> Looking forward to meeting many of you. Scout camping this weekend. Will >> do >> a few more things Sunday night. >> See you soon >> Ira Erbs >> IT Consultant >> Portland, OR >> >> sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections >> because >> my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: >> http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 08:37:42 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:37:42 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob Message-ID: Hi, I just came in from the garage. Unfortunatly I had broken the lamp switch knob. I restored the other knobs soo if I buy a new one, it would not look ok. Does any of You have a restorable original for a BN4? Gergo From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 08:43:18 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 07:43:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hot water tube route In-Reply-To: <4E059534.9060709@chello.nl> References: <4E059534.9060709@chello.nl> Message-ID: Thanks to all. One thing that amuses me is admonitions to be concerned about X. The capillary tube has been routed haphazardly for over 35 years without incident... I will take care on te-install.... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 25, 2011 12:58 AM, "Oudesluys" wrote: > Make sure it is well fixed along the path under the dashboard, along the > firewall and on the full length of the engine. Add at least a double > loop coil between engine and firewall. The soft copper capillary tube > can easily harden and break/crack because of vibration. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 25 09:26:25 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (mark lapierre) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Firewall material In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <626732.68695.qm@web180105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Richard, I went through this same thing a while ago. There are a couple of Hardie products available. The one that you want is off white and has squares imprinted on one side. You will have the smooth side facing out of course. Buy several jigsaw blades that have the carbide edge. You will go through a couple of these blades. I suggest that you do your cutting outside. The dust will fly. Where 2 dust masks, and eye protection. Its not a carcinigen but it is a type of cement dust that you don't need in you body. You wil lcough a lot if you inhale a lot of it. Do a couple of cuts then take a break in some fresh air and let the dust die down. There were diagrams floating around on the list a few years ago. Did you print those off? They were a huge help in getting the pieces cut correctly. Good Luck, email me if you have any further quesions. Mark --- On Fri, 6/24/11, richard mayor wrote: From: richard mayor Subject: [Healeys] Firewall material To: "healeys" Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 10:50 PM Dear Listmates, What is that product that Home Depot sells that is similar to the original white asbestos firewall material. I know this has been discussed on the list a number of times in the past. I did not need it then so I did not make a note of the product name. Now, I need some of that stuff. Thanks, Richard Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From gbrierton at hotmail.com Sat Jun 25 10:03:01 2011 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (Gary R. Brierton) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:03:01 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Hot water tube route In-Reply-To: References: , <4E059534.9060709@chello.nl>, Message-ID: I know...seems silly. But...as I mentioned a while ago, if the little double loop everyone describes ends up resting against the wiring harness, it makes a very efficient saw when vibrating. I had a fire under the bonnet caused by this action just before Conclave '97. GaryB > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 07:43:18 -0700 > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > To: coudesluijs at chello.nl > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hot water tube route > > Thanks to all. One thing that amuses me is admonitions to be concerned about > X. The capillary tube has been routed haphazardly for over 35 years without > incident... > I will take care on te-install.... > > Ira Erbs > IT Consultant > Portland, OR > > sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because > my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write > > On Jun 25, 2011 12:58 AM, "Oudesluys" wrote: > > Make sure it is well fixed along the path under the dashboard, along the > > firewall and on the full length of the engine. Add at least a double > > loop coil between engine and firewall. The soft copper capillary tube > > can easily harden and break/crack because of vibration. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > NL > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gbrierton at hotmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jun 25 10:20:39 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 18:20:39 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Hot water tube route In-Reply-To: References: <4E059534.9060709@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4E060AD7.1030806@chello.nl> Some people have all the luch in the world! Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs, married to a Murphy!! [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From 57healey at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 10:54:38 2011 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:54:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <-6703897171069613839@unknownmsgid> I don't know if anyone posted this earlier in the week. Prayers go out to the victims and their families > http://oneidadispatch.com/articles/2011/06/21/news/doc4dff51dc5f75d658262173.txt From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Jun 25 12:14:26 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:14:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident In-Reply-To: <-6703897171069613839@unknownmsgid> References: <-6703897171069613839@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <000001cc3363$b88fc330$29af4990$@net> There is an H. Carlton Reames of Ava, NY. with a BN4 who is listed in the Northeast Region of the AHCA membership book, so this must be him. Condolences to the family. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patton Dickson Sent: 2011-06-25 12:55 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident I don't know if anyone posted this earlier in the week. Prayers go out to the victims and their families > http://oneidadispatch.com/articles/2011/06/21/news/doc4dff51dc5f75d658262173 .txt _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Jun 25 12:26:30 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:26:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hot water tube route In-Reply-To: References: <4E059534.9060709@chello.nl> Message-ID: <000101cc3365$67b79620$3726c260$@net> What is not sometimes immediately (or ever) apparent about routing something in a fashion other than original is that it can wear against something else, sit there buzzing and vibrating annoyingly or otherwise become snagged in another component, etc. I always figure they assembled these things with extra clips, ties or other hardware for a good reason, as each item was costing money. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: 2011-06-25 10:43 To: Oudesluys Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hot water tube route Thanks to all. One thing that amuses me is admonitions to be concerned about X. The capillary tube has been routed haphazardly for over 35 years without incident... I will take care on te-install.... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 25, 2011 12:58 AM, "Oudesluys" wrote: > Make sure it is well fixed along the path under the dashboard, along the > firewall and on the full length of the engine. Add at least a double > loop coil between engine and firewall. The soft copper capillary tube > can easily harden and break/crack because of vibration. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From e-wilkins at cox.net Sat Jun 25 12:51:57 2011 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:51:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident In-Reply-To: <-6703897171069613839@unknownmsgid> References: <-6703897171069613839@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Here's an ad placement based on my preferences... eerie http://ewilkins.com/lespaul/stuff/healey_crash_moss.png On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Patton Dickson wrote: > I don't know if anyone posted this earlier in the week. Prayers go > out to the victims and their families > > >> http://oneidadispatch.com/articles/2011/06/21/news/doc4dff51dc5f75d658262173.txt > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jun 25 13:13:55 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression Message-ID: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Just did our first compression test on our 100M engine (all we've done is drive it up and down the little county road in front of my folks's house--20miles maybe). Engine warm, all plugs out, throttles closed: #1 - 162 psi #2 - 170 #3 - 165 #4 - 172 Actually seems a little high, even for an M but, hey, I'll take it. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From derek.c.job at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 13:43:44 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:43:44 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Fitting a 'Wosp' High torque starter motor. Message-ID: I want to fit my newly acquired High Torque motor but I want to be sure about the wiring and positioning. My car is positive earth and still has an inertia motor and starter solenoid. Not being very electrically inclined I'm slightly confused by the wording in Wosp's instructions. They say. 'Where our starter directly replaces an inertia type original fitment starter motor *we will fit* the unit with a link wire between the ignition trigger terminal and the battery stud post.' I ordered mine from AH Spares for an Austin Healey, do I therefore assume that this link wire has already been fitted?. I'm thinking that this might be the case and all I have to do is fit the main power cable to the stud post. Anyone fitted a Wosp motor? Silly question probably, but can these accidently be fitted upside down? cheers Derek From derek.c.job at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 13:57:50 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:57:50 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 185/70/15 tyre doesn't fit in the boot. Message-ID: I guess from the many threads on tyre sizes a lot of you are running around with 185/70/15 tyres. I am and I have one as a spare, and it won't fit in the boot if you use the standard wood block/wire bar/leather strap set up. When I got the car the spare was jury rigged with an eye bolt, some polyester type ribbon tape and a ratchet to tighten it to the the strut at the centre rear of the boot. Not very pretty and I saw this as a nice little job to upgrade to standard and bought the missing parts. I fitted the block and bar after some difficulty in removing frozen nuts being used to keep the eye bolt in place on the rear bulkhead, only to then studpidly discover that I couldn't close the boot lid when I put the spare tyre in! Idiot, Just wondering what others do in this position. I don't want to go out and buy a narrower wheel and 165 tyre but I do like the look of the leather strap and bar set up. I was thinking of just ditching the wooden block and attaching the bar directly to the bulkhead or using just a thin piece of plywood in between. The couple of inches gained will be enough to allow the boot lid to close. Any other ideas? Derek From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jun 25 14:31:11 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:31:11 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident In-Reply-To: <000001cc3363$b88fc330$29af4990$@net> References: <-6703897171069613839@unknownmsgid> <000001cc3363$b88fc330$29af4990$@net> Message-ID: <4E06458F.9060607@justbrits.com> << Condolences to the family. >> Ditto, from us also !! Rich (Rudy), you have a separate listing for the Driver?? Name sure sounds familiar !?!? Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From bn1 at pacbell.net Sat Jun 25 14:55:39 2011 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:55:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression In-Reply-To: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E064B4B.4050508@pacbell.net> I thought you did a compression test with the throttle wide open. Or am I wrong as usual? Bill '53 BN1 '61 BT7 -- When I was younger, I could remember anything whether it had happened or not. But now my facilities are decaying and soon I shall be so I cannot remember anything but the things that never happened. - Mark Twain On 6/25/2011 12:13 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Just did our first compression test on our 100M engine (all we've done is drive it up and down the little county road in front of my folks's house--20miles maybe). Engine warm, all plugs out, throttles closed: > > #1 - 162 psi > #2 - 170 > #3 - 165 > #4 - 172 > > Actually seems a little high, even for an M but, hey, I'll take it. > > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bn1 at pacbell.net From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 25 15:01:11 2011 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins ) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:01:11 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 185/70/15 tyre doesn't fit in the boot. Message-ID: I run 185 tires and have a 165 as the spare on my BN7. And, it is a tight fit... Regards, Richard C, via my Blackberry -----Original Message----- From: Derek Job Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:57:50 To: Subject: [Healeys] 185/70/15 tyre doesn't fit in the boot. I guess from the many threads on tyre sizes a lot of you are running around with 185/70/15 tyres. I am and I have one as a spare, and it won't fit in the boot if you use the standard wood block/wire bar/leather strap set up. When I got the car the spare was jury rigged with an eye bolt, some polyester type ribbon tape and a ratchet to tighten it to the the strut at the centre rear of the boot. Not very pretty and I saw this as a nice little job to upgrade to standard and bought the missing parts. I fitted the block and bar after some difficulty in removing frozen nuts being used to keep the eye bolt in place on the rear bulkhead, only to then studpidly discover that I couldn't close the boot lid when I put the spare tyre in! Idiot, Just wondering what others do in this position. I don't want to go out and buy a narrower wheel and 165 tyre but I do like the look of the leather strap and bar set up. I was thinking of just ditching the wooden block and attaching the bar directly to the bulkhead or using just a thin piece of plywood in between. The couple of inches gained will be enough to allow the boot lid to close. Any other ideas? Derek _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 15:05:06 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:05:06 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident In-Reply-To: References: <-6703897171069613839@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Sad. RIP. G 2011/6/25 Eric (Rick) Wilkins > Here's an ad placement based on my preferences... eerie > > http://ewilkins.com/lespaul/**stuff/healey_crash_moss.png > > > On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Patton Dickson wrote: > > I don't know if anyone posted this earlier in the week. Prayers go >> out to the victims and their families >> >> >> http://oneidadispatch.com/**articles/2011/06/21/news/** >>> doc4dff51dc5f75d658262173.txt >>> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.**net >> > ______________________________**_________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/pajtamuvek@**gmail.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 15:21:06 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 05:21:06 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident In-Reply-To: <-6703897171069613839@unknownmsgid> References: <-6703897171069613839@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Wow, does not sound like a normal accident. Sounds like the driver panicked and did not know how to control the car, or possibly lost brakes and had no idea how to pump them to get pressure. On 6/26/11, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know if anyone posted this earlier in the week. Prayers go > out to the victims and their families > > >> http://oneidadispatch.com/articles/2011/06/21/news/doc4dff51dc5f75d658262173.txt > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Sat Jun 25 15:25:58 2011 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:25:58 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression In-Reply-To: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1E76750AFF2A41AAB0B04CF953CEFD75@Notebook> Shouldn't throttles be fully open for a compression test Bob? Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz -----Original Message----- From: Bob Spidell Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 5:13 AM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression Just did our first compression test on our 100M engine (all we've done is drive it up and down the little county road in front of my folks's house--20miles maybe). Engine warm, all plugs out, throttles closed: #1 - 162 psi #2 - 170 #3 - 165 #4 - 172 Actually seems a little high, even for an M but, hey, I'll take it. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/greylinn at ozemail.com.au From glemon at neb.rr.com Sat Jun 25 15:38:30 2011 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:38:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression In-Reply-To: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <9FCFEA804EF54797AE3B72F7A225DD00@GregPC> Bob, when I rebuilt my 100 engine to M spec I got almost exactly the same numbers (mid 160s to low 170s) when I did the first compression test, I thought it was a little high as well, but maybe it is pretty much normal. Greg Lemon From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Jun 25 15:43:15 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:43:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 185/70/15 tyre doesn't fit in the boot. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000501cc3380$e3c1c860$ab455920$@net> Derek, I have seen owners simply unscrew the bolts holding the wood blocks in their original position, fit the wheel/tire assembly, then spot the blocks higher up to suit the bigger tire. Drill holes higher position, run the bolts through and install flat washers and self locking nuts from the other side. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Derek Job Sent: 2011-06-25 3:58 To: Forum Subject: [Healeys] 185/70/15 tyre doesn't fit in the boot. I guess from the many threads on tyre sizes a lot of you are running around with 185/70/15 tyres. I am and I have one as a spare, and it won't fit in the boot if you use the standard wood block/wire bar/leather strap set up. When I got the car the spare was jury rigged with an eye bolt, some polyester type ribbon tape and a ratchet to tighten it to the the strut at the centre rear of the boot. Not very pretty and I saw this as a nice little job to upgrade to standard and bought the missing parts. I fitted the block and bar after some difficulty in removing frozen nuts being used to keep the eye bolt in place on the rear bulkhead, only to then studpidly discover that I couldn't close the boot lid when I put the spare tyre in! Idiot, Just wondering what others do in this position. I don't want to go out and buy a narrower wheel and 165 tyre but I do like the look of the leather strap and bar set up. I was thinking of just ditching the wooden block and attaching the bar directly to the bulkhead or using just a thin piece of plywood in between. The couple of inches gained will be enough to allow the boot lid to close. Any other ideas? Derek _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jun 25 16:20:45 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:20:45 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression In-Reply-To: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E065F3D.6010109@chello.nl> Throttles should be wide open to get a proper reading. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jun 25 17:50:13 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression In-Reply-To: <4E064B4B.4050508@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <1737202749.16766.1309045813985.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I thought so, too. But my dad said it didn't matter with the all plugs out and, well, arguing with the old man just ain't worth it. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Bill" To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 1:55:39 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M Compression I thought you did a compression test with the throttle wide open. Or am I wrong as usual? Bill '53 BN1 '61 BT7 -- When I was younger, I could remember anything whether it had happened or not. But now my facilities are decaying and soon I shall be so I cannot remember anything but the things that never happened. - Mark Twain On 6/25/2011 12:13 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Just did our first compression test on our 100M engine (all we've done is drive it up and down the little county road in front of my folks's house--20miles maybe). Engine warm, all plugs out, throttles closed: > > #1 - 162 psi > #2 - 170 > #3 - 165 > #4 - 172 > > Actually seems a little high, even for an M but, hey, I'll take it. > > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jun 25 17:52:12 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 185/70/15 tyre doesn't fit in the boot. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <752282471.16788.1309045932418.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I take the stock 'block-and-tackle' out and put the 185/70 spare on 6-inch rim in the boot. Just fits, with a toolbox between it and the battery to keep it from sliding around. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Job" To: "Forum" Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:57:50 PM Subject: [Healeys] 185/70/15 tyre doesn't fit in the boot. I guess from the many threads on tyre sizes a lot of you are running around with 185/70/15 tyres. I am and I have one as a spare, and it won't fit in the boot if you use the standard wood block/wire bar/leather strap set up. When I got the car the spare was jury rigged with an eye bolt, some polyester type ribbon tape and a ratchet to tighten it to the the strut at the centre rear of the boot. Not very pretty and I saw this as a nice little job to upgrade to standard and bought the missing parts. I fitted the block and bar after some difficulty in removing frozen nuts being used to keep the eye bolt in place on the rear bulkhead, only to then studpidly discover that I couldn't close the boot lid when I put the spare tyre in! Idiot, Just wondering what others do in this position. I don't want to go out and buy a narrower wheel and 165 tyre but I do like the look of the leather strap and bar set up. I was thinking of just ditching the wooden block and attaching the bar directly to the bulkhead or using just a thin piece of plywood in between. The couple of inches gained will be enough to allow the boot lid to close. Any other ideas? Derek _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net From enquiries at classic-car-world.co.uk Sat Jun 25 17:54:02 2011 From: enquiries at classic-car-world.co.uk (Tom McCay - Classic-Car-World Ltd) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:54:02 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Fitting a 'Wosp' High torque starter motor. Message-ID: Hi Derek, we are a WOSP reseller for these Hi Torque starter motors and hopefully the following should help. There are two connections on the WOSP starter motor as follows: 1. Large stud is the main battery post 2. Small spade connection, Ignition switch to the solenoid If you are replacing an inertia type starter motor you will have an external solenoid connecting to the old starter motor. In normal operation turning the ignition key will energise this solenoid and apply a voltage to the old starter. Because the WOSP starter comes with its own solenoid you need to energise this to operate the motor. There should therefore be a small link wire between the main battery stud and the small spade connection for the solenoid. If it is not fitted you can easily make one of these with a small length of wire. With the new starter now in place turning the ignition key will again operate your external solenoid as before connecting the voltage to the main battery post on the starter and at the same time energise the solenoid on the starter. If you need anymore information on this please let me know and I can send you a wiring diagram. Kindest Regards Tom Tom McCay - Director Classic-Car-World Ltd, 32 Washingborough Road, Heighington, Lincoln, LN4 1RE. 01522 888178 (Tel) 0870 705 9115 (fax) enquiries at ccw-tools.com www.ccw-tools.com Registered address: 32 Washingborough Road, Heighington, Lincoln, LN4 1RE. Classic-Car-World Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 3930761. VAT registration number: 755 7630 05 ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Derek Job" > To: "Forum" > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 8:43 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Fitting a 'Wosp' High torque starter motor. > > >>I want to fit my newly acquired High Torque motor but I want to be sure >> about the wiring and positioning. >> >> My car is positive earth and still has an inertia motor and starter >> solenoid. Not being very electrically inclined I'm slightly confused by >> the >> wording in Wosp's instructions. They say. >> >> 'Where our starter directly replaces an inertia type original fitment >> starter motor *we will fit* the unit with a link wire between the >> ignition >> trigger terminal and the battery stud post.' >> >> I ordered mine from AH Spares for an Austin Healey, do I therefore assume >> that this link wire has already been fitted?. I'm thinking that this >> might >> be the case and all I have to do is fit the main power cable to the stud >> post. Anyone fitted a Wosp motor? >> >> Silly question probably, but can these accidently be fitted upside down? >> >> cheers >> >> Derek >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/enquiries at classic-car-world.co.uk From rjcapo1 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 25 18:08:03 2011 From: rjcapo1 at yahoo.com (Ralph Cap) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] sports and touring club new jersey Message-ID: <1309046883.39172.YahooMailClassic@web120120.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> there was a gentleman with a beautiful 100 4 it was red and i think a combination of red and tan interior all chromed out was beautiful haven't seen the car for a few yrs anyone remember the car or the person he used to come around with his son was young at the time maybe at least 5-7 yrs ago just curious to see the car again From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 25 20:15:19 2011 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:15:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20110625191207.020649c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> I removed the paint from the transmission and found a chrome bolt head that retains the shifter rod. It has a painted red dot on it. What is the color of the red paint? I would like to get that right before I paint over it and the entire transmission with Austin Healey green. John Spaur Just having fun tonight! From dwflagg at juno.com Sat Jun 25 20:27:45 2011 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg at juno.com) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:27:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident Message-ID: <20110625.192824.965.17120@mailpop06.dca.untd.com> If you go to the Channel 9 (Syracuse) web site and listen to the news piece on the accident, you come away with the impression that the New York State (former resident) DOT is doing a CYA about proper warning signs, etc. It seems that during the winter they plowed up to the barrier at the bridge, which was run into by a number of residents. Many had complained prior to this tragedy. The car does not appear badly damaged, but looking at the windscreen it would seem they suffered serious head injuries. It is a sad and tragic event, seemingly the result of unfortunate circumstances. Doug > Here's an ad placement based on my preferences... eerie > > http://ewilkins.com/lespaul/stuff/healey_crash_moss.png > > On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Patton Dickson wrote: > > > I don't know if anyone posted this earlier in the week. Prayers > go > > out to the victims and their families > > > > > >> > http://oneidadispatch.com/articles/2011/06/21/news/doc4dff51dc5f75d658262 173.txt > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dwflagg at juno.com > ____________________________________________________________ 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27! Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0699806b6e38b00dst04duc From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jun 25 20:58:18 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Question Message-ID: <2081451521.20384.1309057098598.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> After bragging about our 100M's compression numbers I have a concern. We seem to be getting a lot of pulsed pressure in the valve cover, as felt at the oil filler hole. There is very little pressure at the end of the road draft tube. Given we have good compression, so, theoretically shouldn't have a lot of blow-by, what could cause pressure in the valve cover? The engine was totally rebuilt, and I believe we cleaned out the road draft tube but don't remember for sure (we were otherwise pretty careful). All hints, ideas, even knowledge welcome. TIA, Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From eschulz at frontiernet.net Sat Jun 25 21:38:56 2011 From: eschulz at frontiernet.net (Elton Schulz) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:38:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4E064B4B.4050508@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <5CD591D15D374012B045EF6831A6949D@655vb01> This is probably a stupid question and obvious to everyone but me, but what is the correct procedure for doing a compression test? Thanks in advance, Elton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Bill" To: Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M Compression >I thought you did a compression test with the throttle wide open. Or am > I wrong as usual? > > Bill > '53 BN1 > '61 BT7 > -- When I was younger, I could remember anything whether it had happened > or not. But now my facilities are decaying and soon I shall be so I > cannot remember anything but the things that never happened. - Mark Twain > > On 6/25/2011 12:13 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: >> Just did our first compression test on our 100M engine (all we've done is >> drive it up and down the little county road in front of my folks's >> house--20miles maybe). Engine warm, all plugs out, throttles closed: >> >> #1 - 162 psi >> #2 - 170 >> #3 - 165 >> #4 - 172 >> >> Actually seems a little high, even for an M but, hey, I'll take it. >> >> >> Bob >> >> -------------------------------- >> Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bn1 at pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eschulz at frontiernet.net From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sat Jun 25 22:10:58 2011 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:10:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Fatal_Healey_Accident?= Message-ID: <20110626041058.6829.qmail@hoster902.com> Maybe she had a heart attack or other event. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA BN6 From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 22:13:17 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:13:17 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Question In-Reply-To: <2081451521.20384.1309057098598.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <2081451521.20384.1309057098598.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Did you put on a rear crank seal? If so then crank case pressure will probably vent upwards. What about the crankcase ventilator on the side of the motor, is it pulsing too? On 6/26/11, Bob Spidell wrote: > After bragging about our 100M's compression numbers I have a concern. We > seem to be getting a lot of pulsed pressure in the valve cover, as felt at > the oil filler hole. There is very little pressure at the end of the road > draft tube. Given we have good compression, so, theoretically shouldn't have > a lot of blow-by, what could cause pressure in the valve cover? The engine > was totally rebuilt, and I believe we cleaned out the road draft tube but > don't remember for sure (we were otherwise pretty careful). > > All hints, ideas, even knowledge welcome. > > TIA, > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jun 25 22:24:11 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 04:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1634428219.21856.1309062251517.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Yes, we did (put on a rear crank seal). Why would that cause upward pulsing? The crankcase ventilator--think that's what I'm calling the road draft tube--has very little pulsing pressure, which doesn't seem to change much when we remove/replace the oil filler cap. I'm pretty sure the tube is clear, but we'll check. Thanks for the reply. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: "Bob Spidell" , "healeys" Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:13:17 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Question Did you put on a rear crank seal? If so then crank case pressure will probably vent upwards. What about the crankcase ventilator on the side of the motor, is it pulsing too? On 6/26/11, Bob Spidell wrote: > After bragging about our 100M's compression numbers I have a concern. We > seem to be getting a lot of pulsed pressure in the valve cover, as felt at > the oil filler hole. There is very little pressure at the end of the road > draft tube. Given we have good compression, so, theoretically shouldn't have > a lot of blow-by, what could cause pressure in the valve cover? The engine > was totally rebuilt, and I believe we cleaned out the road draft tube but > don't remember for sure (we were otherwise pretty careful). > > All hints, ideas, even knowledge welcome. > > TIA, > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From bighealey3k at aim.com Sat Jun 25 22:35:21 2011 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (bighealey3k at aim.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident In-Reply-To: <20110626041058.6829.qmail@hoster902.com> References: <20110626041058.6829.qmail@hoster902.com> Message-ID: <8CE01D197909806-21A4-1AFE1@Webmail-m113.sysops.aol.com> The driver's daughter suggested she might have had a stroke while at the wheel. Here is a video from WKTV channel 2 in Utica, NY. http://www.wktv.com/news/local/Passenger-dies-a-day-after-accident-on-Verona- bridge-124195729.html Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: Steve B. Gerow To: healeys Sent: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 12:26 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident Maybe she had a heart attack or other event. - teve Gerow asadena, CA N6 ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey3k at aim.com From austin.healey at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 00:08:32 2011 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:08:32 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Question In-Reply-To: <2081451521.20384.1309057098598.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <2081451521.20384.1309057098598.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <35E52016-80B4-4C2D-BF0D-51F44AAC6548@gmail.com> Worn valve guides?? Sent from my iPhone On 26/06/2011, at 12:58 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > After bragging about our 100M's compression numbers I have a > concern. We seem to be getting a lot of pulsed pressure in the valve > cover, as felt at the oil filler hole. There is very little pressure > at the end of the road draft tube. Given we have good compression, > so, theoretically shouldn't have a lot of blow-by, what could cause > pressure in the valve cover? The engine was totally rebuilt, and I > believe we cleaned out the road draft tube but don't remember for > sure (we were otherwise pretty careful). > > All hints, ideas, even knowledge welcome. > > TIA, > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Jun 26 01:05:36 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:05:36 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression In-Reply-To: <5CD591D15D374012B045EF6831A6949D@655vb01> References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4E064B4B.4050508@pacbell.net> <5CD591D15D374012B045EF6831A6949D@655vb01> Message-ID: <4E06DA40.6010508@chello.nl> Fully warmed up engine, petrol pump disconnected or blocked, plugs out, trottle(s) wide open, spinning the engine (appr. 5 seconds) untill you get max. reading on compression gauge. As simple as that. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From bighealey at charter.net Sun Jun 26 05:49:25 2011 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 04:49:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident In-Reply-To: <20110626041058.6829.qmail@hoster902.com> References: <20110626041058.6829.qmail@hoster902.com> Message-ID: <001c01cc33f7$196af380$4c40da80$@charter.net> Steve, Seems like the autopsy rules out a stroke which her daughter said the family suspected since she had had one a few weeks earlier. Brings to mind the need to be safe in preparing our cars. Not that anyone or the car being at fault, I am just saying that no matter what turn's out to be the cause of this let's make this a reminder for safety of ourselves and others that share the road. - throttle return springs - brakes - tires - suspension - steering - seat belts - lights , brakes, blinkers - adjust driving style. I have seen a lot of close calls on cars being borderline or outright unsafe. We need to be extra careful and allow for the lack of safety features in Healeys. It was the safety and smog rules that ended the Healeys imports to the US. Uuuuuuhhh clue. Since many of us do our own work we could heed this very very unfortunate event as a WARNING. I sometimes need an attitude adjustment when I switch from 2011 disk brakes with ABS and airbags to my Healey with drum brakes and a 6 foot spear pointing at my chest instead of an airbag. With respect and sadness................ RIP Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve B. Gerow Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:11 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident Maybe she had a heart attack or other event. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA BN6 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From gmandas at yahoo.com Sun Jun 26 06:30:33 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:30:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression -- leakdown In-Reply-To: <4E06DA40.6010508@chello.nl> References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4E064B4B.4050508@pacbell.net> <5CD591D15D374012B045EF6831A6949D@655vb01> <4E06DA40.6010508@chello.nl> Message-ID: Whenever I discuss compression with my mechanic, he says I really need to do a "leakdown". He says it's more informative. Uh... What's a leakdown test? Greg 65BJ8 Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jun 26, 2011, at 3:05 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > Fully warmed up engine, petrol pump disconnected or blocked, plugs out, > trottle(s) wide open, spinning the engine (appr. 5 seconds) untill you > get max. reading on compression gauge. > As simple as that. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sun Jun 26 06:46:27 2011 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 06:46:27 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression -- leakdown In-Reply-To: References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><4E064B4B.4050508@pacbell.net><5CD591D15D374012B045EF6831A6949D@655vb01><4E06DA40.6010508@chello.nl> Message-ID: Compression testing is best with all plugs removed, throttle open, warm engine and a good battery charger to maintain cranking speed. There are wet and dry variations which have been supplanted by leak by testing, where each cylinder while at TDC on compression stoke is pressurized with compressed air. The tech then listens for Leaks at carbs, exhaust, crankcase, or radiator for hissing or bubbles.... frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Mandas Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:31 AM To: Oudesluys Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M Compression -- leakdown Whenever I discuss compression with my mechanic, he says I really need to do a "leakdown". He says it's more informative. Uh... What's a leakdown test? Greg 65BJ8 Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jun 26, 2011, at 3:05 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > Fully warmed up engine, petrol pump disconnected or blocked, plugs out, > trottle(s) wide open, spinning the engine (appr. 5 seconds) untill you > get max. reading on compression gauge. > As simple as that. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com From healeyguy at aol.com Sun Jun 26 06:47:55 2011 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:47:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression -- leakdown In-Reply-To: References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><4E064B4B.4050508@pacbell.net><5CD591D15D374012B045EF6831A6949D@655vb01><4E06DA40.6010508@chello.nl> Message-ID: <8CE021667B6C539-117C-5F89@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> What's a leakdown test? Basically pressurize a cylinder with the valves closed and see how long it takes for the pressure to drop. Somewhat simplified explanation. Aloha Perry -----Original Message----- From: Greg Mandas To: Oudesluys Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 8:30 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M Compression -- leakdown Whenever I discuss compression with my mechanic, he says I really need to do a leakdown". He says it's more informative. Uh... What's a leakdown test? Greg 5BJ8 From warthodson at aol.com Sun Jun 26 07:36:08 2011 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:36:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20110625191207.020649c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20110625191207.020649c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CE021D23D9C59F-BA8-1563A@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com> Congratulations! That red dot was painted on only one Healey by Roger Menadue. It was a part of a little known special advertising promotion created by Bic Healey to boost sales. The original prize was 100,000 pound sterling to be awarded to the person who found the Healey with the red dot. I have been keeping the prize money in escrow earning interest all these years. All you need to do to claim your prize money is send me a photo of the red dot & $1000 processing fee. I will take care of everything else. -----Original Message----- From: john spaur To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Jun 25, 2011 9:15 pm Subject: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt I removed the paint from the transmission and found a chrome bolt head that retains the shifter rod. It has a painted red dot it. What is the color of the red paint? I would like to get that right before I paint over it and the entire transmission with Austin Healey green. John Spaur Just having fun tonight! _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com From rca53 at columbia.edu Sun Jun 26 07:50:44 2011 From: rca53 at columbia.edu (Atkinson, Robert) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:50:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident In-Reply-To: <001c01cc33f7$196af380$4c40da80$@charter.net> Message-ID: Tracy raises an interesting point: is it possible/practical to add airbags to classic cars (particularly Healeys)? An airbag in the glove box for the passenger and a ne steering wheel/trafficator arrangement to allow a steering wheel airbag? Has anyone done it? Does any company make airbag kits? I have never seen any advertised... Perhaps an incident like this might get some entrepreneurs working on it. I suppose that there are all sorts of government regulations about airbags and retro-fitted airbags might not be as protective as OEM airbags on new cars, but wouldn't any airbag be better than none at all? Bob Atkinson On 6/26/11 7:49 AM, "Tracy Drummond" wrote: Steve, Seems like the autopsy rules out a stroke which her daughter said the family suspected since she had had one a few weeks earlier. Brings to mind the need to be safe in preparing our cars. Not that anyone or the car being at fault, I am just saying that no matter what turn's out to be the cause of this let's make this a reminder for safety of ourselves and others that share the road. - throttle return springs - brakes - tires - suspension - steering - seat belts - lights , brakes, blinkers - adjust driving style. I have seen a lot of close calls on cars being borderline or outright unsafe. We need to be extra careful and allow for the lack of safety features in Healeys. It was the safety and smog rules that ended the Healeys imports to the US. Uuuuuuhhh clue. Since many of us do our own work we could heed this very very unfortunate event as a WARNING. I sometimes need an attitude adjustment when I switch from 2011 disk brakes with ABS and airbags to my Healey with drum brakes and a 6 foot spear pointing at my chest instead of an airbag. With respect and sadness................ RIP Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve B. Gerow Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:11 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fatal Healey Accident Maybe she had a heart attack or other event. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA BN6 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rca53 at columbia.edu From britishcars at shaw.ca Sun Jun 26 07:54:55 2011 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 06:54:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression In-Reply-To: <4E06DA40.6010508@chello.nl> References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4E064B4B.4050508@pacbell.net> <5CD591D15D374012B045EF6831A6949D@655vb01> <4E06DA40.6010508@chello.nl> Message-ID: <004601cc3408$a143f570$e3cbe050$@ca> I don't think you need the petrol pump disconnected......with the plugs out, there will be no vacumm to draw fuel into the cylinders (except for the 5 seconds of the actual test). -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Oudesluys Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 12:06 AM To: Elton Schulz Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M Compression Fully warmed up engine, petrol pump disconnected or blocked, plugs out, trottle(s) wide open, spinning the engine (appr. 5 seconds) untill you get max. reading on compression gauge. As simple as that. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jun 26 08:03:14 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Question In-Reply-To: <35E52016-80B4-4C2D-BF0D-51F44AAC6548@gmail.com> Message-ID: <829805004.26138.1309096994226.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> That was our first thought, too. But the head was rebuilt by an extremely meticulous mechanic (a New Zealander living in Modesto, CA) so although it's possible it's not probable. Trying to figure out if/how installing a rear main seal could cause this. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- Worn valve guides?? Sent from my iPhone On 26/06/2011, at 12:58 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > After bragging about our 100M's compression numbers I have a > concern. We seem to be getting a lot of pulsed pressure in the valve > cover, as felt at the oil filler hole. There is very little pressure > at the end of the road draft tube. Given we have good compression, > so, theoretically shouldn't have a lot of blow-by, what could cause > pressure in the valve cover? The engine was totally rebuilt, and I > believe we cleaned out the road draft tube but don't remember for > sure (we were otherwise pretty careful). > > All hints, ideas, even knowledge welcome. > > TIA, > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From ynotink at msn.com Sun Jun 26 08:27:17 2011 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:27:17 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Fitting a 'Wosp' High torque starter motor. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Some of our local members had their house broken into a few years ago. Their Healey, which was left with the key in the ignition, was found outside the garage with the switch on and booster cables on the battery. It seems the thieves could't figure out the starter button on the left side of the dash. Maybe we should think of it as an anti-theft device. No telling the result if it had to be choked as well. Bill Lawrence > From: enquiries at classic-car-world.co.uk > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:54:02 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fitting a 'Wosp' High torque starter motor. > > Hi Derek, we are a WOSP reseller for these Hi Torque starter motors and > hopefully the following should help. > > There are two connections on the WOSP starter motor as follows: > > 1. Large stud is the main battery post > 2. Small spade connection, Ignition switch to the solenoid > > If you are replacing an inertia type starter motor you will have an > external solenoid connecting to the old starter motor. In normal operation > turning the ignition key will energise this solenoid and apply a voltage to > the old starter. Because the WOSP starter comes with its own solenoid you > need to energise this to operate the motor. There should therefore be a > small link > wire between the main battery stud and the small spade connection for the > solenoid. If it is not fitted you can easily make one of these with a small > length of wire. With the new starter now in place turning the ignition key > will again operate your external solenoid as before connecting the voltage > to the main battery post on the starter and at the same time energise the > solenoid on the starter. > > If you need anymore information on this please let me know and I can send > you a wiring diagram. > > Kindest Regards > > Tom > Tom McCay - Director Classic-Car-World Ltd, 32 Washingborough Road, > Heighington, Lincoln, LN4 1RE. 01522 888178 (Tel) 0870 705 9115 (fax) > enquiries at ccw-tools.com www.ccw-tools.com > > Registered address: 32 Washingborough Road, Heighington, Lincoln, LN4 1RE. > Classic-Car-World Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with > company number 3930761. VAT registration number: 755 7630 05 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Derek Job" > > To: "Forum" > > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 8:43 PM > > Subject: [Healeys] Fitting a 'Wosp' High torque starter motor. > > > > > >>I want to fit my newly acquired High Torque motor but I want to be sure > >> about the wiring and positioning. > >> > >> My car is positive earth and still has an inertia motor and starter > >> solenoid. Not being very electrically inclined I'm slightly confused by > >> the > >> wording in Wosp's instructions. They say. > >> > >> 'Where our starter directly replaces an inertia type original fitment > >> starter motor *we will fit* the unit with a link wire between the > >> ignition > >> trigger terminal and the battery stud post.' > >> > >> I ordered mine from AH Spares for an Austin Healey, do I therefore assume > >> that this link wire has already been fitted?. I'm thinking that this > >> might > >> be the case and all I have to do is fit the main power cable to the stud > >> post. Anyone fitted a Wosp motor? > >> > >> Silly question probably, but can these accidently be fitted upside down? > >> > >> cheers > >> > >> Derek > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/enquiries at classic-car-world.co. uk > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jun 26 08:38:51 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Airbags (was Re: Fatal Healey Accident) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <907783138.26781.1309099131197.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Airbags are now available for light aircraft, which have similar panel impact issues to our old cars. They are fitted in the shoulder straps of 3-point harnesses, and powered by compressed gas (not pyrotechnics). I would say it's not out of the realm of possibility but, obviously, would be a complex and expensive proposition. First, you'd have to convince the manufacturer--I'm only aware of one--that it would be a profitable endeavor. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- Tracy raises an interesting point: is it possible/practical to add airbags to classic cars (particularly Healeys)? An airbag in the glove box for the passenger and a ne steering wheel/trafficator arrangement to allow a steering wheel airbag? Has anyone done it? Does any company make airbag kits? I have never seen any advertised... Perhaps an incident like this might get some entrepreneurs working on it. I suppose that there are all sorts of government regulations about airbags and retro-fitted airbags might not be as protective as OEM airbags on new cars, but wouldn't any airbag be better than none at all? Bob Atkinson From ynotink at msn.com Sun Jun 26 08:46:04 2011 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:46:04 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Question In-Reply-To: <829805004.26138.1309096994226.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <35E52016-80B4-4C2D-BF0D-51F44AAC6548@gmail.com>, <829805004.26138.1309096994226.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: There will always be blow-by. That is why there is a crankcase ventilation system. It will usually be high in a new engine until the rings seat and in older engines as they wear, but it can't be eliminated entirely. As for the gases "moving up" the gases don't care which direction they move, they just go in the direction of least resistance. The blow-by pressurizes the crankcase and the gases exit through the valve cover port or the road tube depending on the pressure differential. Bill Lawrence > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:03:14 +0000 > From: bspidell at comcast.net > To: austin.healey at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Question > > That was our first thought, too. But the head was rebuilt by an extremely meticulous mechanic (a New Zealander living in Modesto, CA) so although it's possible it's not probable. > > Trying to figure out if/how installing a rear main seal could cause this. > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Worn valve guides?? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 26/06/2011, at 12:58 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > > After bragging about our 100M's compression numbers I have a > > concern. We seem to be getting a lot of pulsed pressure in the valve > > cover, as felt at the oil filler hole. There is very little pressure > > at the end of the road draft tube. Given we have good compression, > > so, theoretically shouldn't have a lot of blow-by, what could cause > > pressure in the valve cover? The engine was totally rebuilt, and I > > believe we cleaned out the road draft tube but don't remember for > > sure (we were otherwise pretty careful). > > > > All hints, ideas, even knowledge welcome. > > > > TIA, > > Bob > > > > -------------------------------- > > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 08:46:34 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:46:34 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression -- leakdown In-Reply-To: <8CE021667B6C539-117C-5F89@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4E064B4B.4050508@pacbell.net> <5CD591D15D374012B045EF6831A6949D@655vb01> <4E06DA40.6010508@chello.nl> <8CE021667B6C539-117C-5F89@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Leak down testing is done with a spec gauge (leakdown tester). It is measuring the pressure loss by percent. The advantage of the leak down test against a comp. test is that You can see the actual loss, and hear where it is going to (exhaust, carb, cylinderhead, radiator - in the worst case). If You do a compression test, You get a number, which is only good if You can compare it to an older reading (on the same gauge, with the same cranking speed, same temperature etc). Normaly speaking the comp test is best to tell You differences between the cylinders/stages. If You have more than 2PSI difference between the cylinders on an engine, usualy indiates a problem. Leak down testing is somewhat "constant", and gives You an independent number to work with. Though this method also has its own problems. The normal pressure loss is always greater on big engines then on smalls (more sealing area, more loss, aslo depending on bore/stroke ratio etc). I used to meter mini engines (848-1275ccm). A completely healthy 850 would show around 5%, while a 1275 in good nick would be 7-8%. The worst engine which actauly was running showed 45+ loss. But that was an extreme case. Normaly good used engines are between 10-20%. Gergo 2011/6/26 > What's a leakdown test? > > Basically pressurize a cylinder with the valves closed and see how long it > takes for the pressure to drop. Somewhat simplified explanation. > Aloha > Perry > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Mandas > To: Oudesluys > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 8:30 am > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M Compression -- leakdown > > > Whenever I discuss compression with my mechanic, he says I really need to > do > a > leakdown". He says it's more informative. > Uh... What's a leakdown test? > Greg > 5BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 08:47:58 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:47:58 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Question In-Reply-To: <829805004.26138.1309096994226.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <35E52016-80B4-4C2D-BF0D-51F44AAC6548@gmail.com> <829805004.26138.1309096994226.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Do You have pressure or only pulsing air? Gergo 2011/6/26 Bob Spidell > That was our first thought, too. But the head was rebuilt by an extremely > meticulous mechanic (a New Zealander living in Modesto, CA) so although it's > possible it's not probable. > > Trying to figure out if/how installing a rear main seal could cause this. > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Worn valve guides?? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 26/06/2011, at 12:58 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > > After bragging about our 100M's compression numbers I have a > > concern. We seem to be getting a lot of pulsed pressure in the valve > > cover, as felt at the oil filler hole. There is very little pressure > > at the end of the road draft tube. Given we have good compression, > > so, theoretically shouldn't have a lot of blow-by, what could cause > > pressure in the valve cover? The engine was totally rebuilt, and I > > believe we cleaned out the road draft tube but don't remember for > > sure (we were otherwise pretty careful). > > > > All hints, ideas, even knowledge welcome. > > > > TIA, > > Bob > > > > -------------------------------- > > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From JPayne at ThorCon.net Sun Jun 26 08:54:58 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:54:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Question In-Reply-To: <829805004.26138.1309096994226.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <35E52016-80B4-4C2D-BF0D-51F44AAC6548@gmail.com> <829805004.26138.1309096994226.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED628E8@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Is is "windage" pressure, or are you getting pulsesfrom your oil pump? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Jun 26 09:13:33 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:13:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt In-Reply-To: <8CE021D23D9C59F-BA8-1563A@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20110625191207.020649c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> <8CE021D23D9C59F-BA8-1563A@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <033701cc3413$9dc35930$d94a0b90$@verizon.net> And don't forget to send along your SSN, full address, bank account numbers, fone number, credit card numbers and pins. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of warthodson at aol.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 9:36 AM To: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt Congratulations! That red dot was painted on only one Healey by Roger Menadue. It was a part of a little known special advertising promotion created by Bic Healey to boost sales. The original prize was 100,000 pound sterling to be awarded to the person who found the Healey with the red dot. I have been keeping the prize money in escrow earning interest all these years. All you need to do to claim your prize money is send me a photo of the red dot & $1000 processing fee. I will take care of everything else. -----Original Message----- From: john spaur To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Jun 25, 2011 9:15 pm Subject: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt I removed the paint from the transmission and found a chrome bolt head that retains the shifter rod. It has a painted red dot it. What is the color of the red paint? I would like to get that right before I paint over it and the entire transmission with Austin Healey green. John Spaur Just having fun tonight! _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jun 26 09:26:46 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1236470629.27722.1309102006888.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Both (pulsing pressure). Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Austin Healey" To: "Bob Spidell" Cc: "Chris Dimmock" , "healeys" Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 7:47:58 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Question Do You have pressure or only pulsing air? Gergo 2011/6/26 Bob Spidell < bspidell at comcast.net > That was our first thought, too. But the head was rebuilt by an extremely meticulous mechanic (a New Zealander living in Modesto, CA) so although it's possible it's not probable. Trying to figure out if/how installing a rear main seal could cause this. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- Worn valve guides?? Sent from my iPhone On 26/06/2011, at 12:58 PM, Bob Spidell < bspidell at comcast.net > wrote: > After bragging about our 100M's compression numbers I have a > concern. We seem to be getting a lot of pulsed pressure in the valve > cover, as felt at the oil filler hole. There is very little pressure > at the end of the road draft tube. Given we have good compression, > so, theoretically shouldn't have a lot of blow-by, what could cause > pressure in the valve cover? The engine was totally rebuilt, and I > believe we cleaned out the road draft tube but don't remember for > sure (we were otherwise pretty careful). > > All hints, ideas, even knowledge welcome. > > TIA, > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jun 26 09:27:22 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Question In-Reply-To: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED628E8@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <331706252.27741.1309102042038.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Oil pressure is steady and good. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Payne" To: "Bob Spidell" , "Chris Dimmock" Cc: "healeys" Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 7:54:58 AM Subject: RE: [Healeys] Question Is is "windage" pressure, or are you getting pulsesfrom your oil pump? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 09:50:24 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:50:24 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Question In-Reply-To: <1236470629.27722.1309102006888.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1236470629.27722.1309102006888.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Pulsing is normal, just like pressure to an extent. Pulsing is caused by the pistons and the cam followers moving in their bores. If the pressure is not high, and the blowby gas is not too much, there is nothing to worry about. gergo 2011/6/26 Bob Spidell > Both (pulsing pressure). > > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Austin Healey" > *To: *"Bob Spidell" > *Cc: *"Chris Dimmock" , "healeys" < > healeys at autox.team.net> > *Sent: *Sunday, June 26, 2011 7:47:58 AM > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Question > > > Do You have pressure or only pulsing air? > > Gergo > > 2011/6/26 Bob Spidell > >> That was our first thought, too. But the head was rebuilt by an extremely >> meticulous mechanic (a New Zealander living in Modesto, CA) so although it's >> possible it's not probable. >> >> Trying to figure out if/how installing a rear main seal could cause this. >> >> Bob >> >> -------------------------------- >> Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> Worn valve guides?? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 26/06/2011, at 12:58 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: >> >> > After bragging about our 100M's compression numbers I have a >> > concern. We seem to be getting a lot of pulsed pressure in the valve >> > cover, as felt at the oil filler hole. There is very little pressure >> > at the end of the road draft tube. Given we have good compression, >> > so, theoretically shouldn't have a lot of blow-by, what could cause >> > pressure in the valve cover? The engine was totally rebuilt, and I >> > believe we cleaned out the road draft tube but don't remember for >> > sure (we were otherwise pretty careful). >> > >> > All hints, ideas, even knowledge welcome. >> > >> > TIA, >> > Bob >> > >> > -------------------------------- >> > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From 3000mk3 at bighealey.org Sun Jun 26 09:45:55 2011 From: 3000mk3 at bighealey.org (tom mitchell) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:45:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 185/70/15 tyre doesn't fit in the boot. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004d01cc3418$246833d0$6d389b70$@bighealey.org> HI Derek, I made a new metal bracket just taller, so I could use the old bolt holes. Tom Mitchell 1965 Austin Healey BJ8 MK3 "Ability is what you are capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it." - Lou Holtz Doing it and doing it right, is up to you! "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." -John Lennon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Derek Job Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 3:58 PM To: Forum Subject: [Healeys] 185/70/15 tyre doesn't fit in the boot. I guess from the many threads on tyre sizes a lot of you are running around with 185/70/15 tyres. I am and I have one as a spare, and it won't fit in the boot if you use the standard wood block/wire bar/leather strap set up. When I got the car the spare was jury rigged with an eye bolt, some polyester type ribbon tape and a ratchet to tighten it to the the strut at the centre rear of the boot. Not very pretty and I saw this as a nice little job to upgrade to standard and bought the missing parts. I fitted the block and bar after some difficulty in removing frozen nuts being used to keep the eye bolt in place on the rear bulkhead, only to then studpidly discover that I couldn't close the boot lid when I put the spare tyre in! Idiot, Just wondering what others do in this position. I don't want to go out and buy a narrower wheel and 165 tyre but I do like the look of the leather strap and bar set up. I was thinking of just ditching the wooden block and attaching the bar directly to the bulkhead or using just a thin piece of plywood in between. The couple of inches gained will be enough to allow the boot lid to close. Any other ideas? Derek _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/3000mk3 at bighealey.org [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of AH Spare Tire bracket on Bulkhead real closeup.jpg] From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 10:41:38 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:41:38 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Question In-Reply-To: <829805004.26138.1309096994226.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <35E52016-80B4-4C2D-BF0D-51F44AAC6548@gmail.com> <829805004.26138.1309096994226.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: It's just one less place for the crankcase to vent, so you feel it more up top. On 6/26/11, Bob Spidell wrote: > That was our first thought, too. But the head was rebuilt by an extremely > meticulous mechanic (a New Zealander living in Modesto, CA) so although it's > possible it's not probable. > > Trying to figure out if/how installing a rear main seal could cause this. > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Worn valve guides?? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 26/06/2011, at 12:58 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > >> After bragging about our 100M's compression numbers I have a >> concern. We seem to be getting a lot of pulsed pressure in the valve >> cover, as felt at the oil filler hole. There is very little pressure >> at the end of the road draft tube. Given we have good compression, >> so, theoretically shouldn't have a lot of blow-by, what could cause >> pressure in the valve cover? The engine was totally rebuilt, and I >> believe we cleaned out the road draft tube but don't remember for >> sure (we were otherwise pretty careful). >> >> All hints, ideas, even knowledge welcome. >> >> TIA, >> Bob >> >> -------------------------------- >> Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From barrie at look.ca Sun Jun 26 11:04:34 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 13:04:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt In-Reply-To: <033701cc3413$9dc35930$d94a0b90$@verizon.net> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20110625191207.020649c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> <8CE021D23D9C59F-BA8-1563A@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com> <033701cc3413$9dc35930$d94a0b90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Pleased be advised that there is a simpler and cheaper way to get your prize for the red spot prize. Just wrap up 100 $10 bills in the deeds of your house, include your bank deposit key as well as any diamonds you have like rings, and FedEx to me. Email me for the address. References for all the other winners available on request At 11:13 AM 6/26/2011, John Sims wrote: >And don't forget to send along your SSN, full address, bank account numbers, >fone number, credit card numbers and pins. > >John Sims, BN6 >Aberdeen, NJ > >http://www.healey6.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] >On Behalf Of warthodson at aol.com >Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 9:36 AM >To: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net; healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt > >Congratulations! That red dot was painted on only one Healey by Roger >Menadue. >It was a part of a little known special advertising promotion created by Bic >Healey to boost sales. The original prize was 100,000 pound sterling to be >awarded to the person who found the Healey with the red dot. I have been >keeping the prize money in escrow earning interest all these years. All you >need to do to claim your prize money is send me a photo of the red dot & >$1000 processing fee. I will take care of everything else. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: john spaur >To: healeys at autox.team.net >Sent: Sat, Jun 25, 2011 9:15 pm >Subject: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt > > >I removed the paint from the transmission and found a chrome bolt head that >retains the shifter rod. >It has a painted red dot it. What is the color of the red paint? > >I would like to get that right before I paint over it and the entire >transmission with Austin Healey green. > >John Spaur >Just having fun tonight! >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Jun 26 11:51:10 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:51:10 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Airbags (was Re: Fatal Healey Accident) In-Reply-To: <907783138.26781.1309099131197.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <907783138.26781.1309099131197.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E07718E.5080207@chello.nl> A far better safety measure would be to fit a collapsable steering column and get rid of any protrusions on the steering hub and fit a large pad. These were available for Moto Lita steering wheels and can still be found. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From e-wilkins at cox.net Sun Jun 26 12:07:23 2011 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:07:23 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Airbags (was Re: Fatal Healey Accident) In-Reply-To: <4E07718E.5080207@chello.nl> References: <907783138.26781.1309099131197.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4E07718E.5080207@chello.nl> Message-ID: I'm no forensics expert, but from the stories and pics of this particular crash, it would appear as though the windscreen was torn off possibly at the first collision where the massive trauma rendered the unfortunate passengers unable to control vehicle through the subsequent impacts. No airbag or collapsable steering column would have helped. Wilko On Jun 26, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > A far better safety measure would be to fit a collapsable steering > column and get rid of any protrusions on the steering hub and fit a > large pad. These were available for Moto Lita steering wheels and can > still be found. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a > name of coudesluijs.vcf] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Jun 26 12:27:17 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:27:17 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Airbags (was Re: Fatal Healey Accident) In-Reply-To: References: <907783138.26781.1309099131197.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4E07718E.5080207@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4E077A05.5030201@chello.nl> I was not referring to this particular accident, but speaking in a general way. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Sun Jun 26 12:28:17 2011 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Airbags (was Re: Fatal Healey Accident) In-Reply-To: <4E07718E.5080207@chello.nl> Message-ID: <1309112897.86382.YahooMailClassic@web130205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> While airbags and collapsable steering columns would be welcome safty options for our cars, they might not have prevented this tragidy, as it seems the initial violence was caused by the car passing under a steel beam. Best JK > Date: Sunday, June 26, 2011, 1:51 PM > A far better safety measure would be > to fit a collapsable steering > column and get rid of any protrusions on the steering hub > and fit a > large pad. These were available for Moto Lita steering > wheels and can > still be found. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 13:04:11 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:04:11 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20110625191207.020649c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20110625191207.020649c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: "What is the color of the red paint?" It seem loke nobody is willing to help You today. The correct shade is BMC "Bloodyhell Red". BTW I have the color on my shelf just send me the car and I will repaint the dot in no time. Gergo 2011/6/26 john spaur > I removed the paint from the transmission and found a chrome bolt head that > retains the shifter rod. > It has a painted red dot on it. What is the color of the red paint? > > I would like to get that right before I paint over it and the entire > transmission with Austin Healey green. > > John Spaur > Just having fun tonight! > ______________________________**_________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/pajtamuvek@**gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Jun 26 13:17:44 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:17:44 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression In-Reply-To: <004601cc3408$a143f570$e3cbe050$@ca> References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4E064B4B.4050508@pacbell.net> <5CD591D15D374012B045EF6831A6949D@655vb01> <4E06DA40.6010508@chello.nl> <004601cc3408$a143f570$e3cbe050$@ca> Message-ID: <4E0785D8.9020409@chello.nl> You are probably correct saying it may not strictly be necessary to shut down petrol supply because of the float bowls needle valves, however I still shut off the petrol line towards the carbs whenever I want to crank the engine without firing it. Even with the plugs out there will be some airflow through the carbs sucking in petrol. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From jschmid at imt.net Sun Jun 26 13:18:05 2011 From: jschmid at imt.net (jschmid at imt.net) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 13:18:05 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] Question Message-ID: <3598.24.72.201.158.1309115885.squirrel@cu.imt.net> My brother had a similar problem with a 1300 MGA. It turned out to be excessive ring gap even though he had adequate compression. Jim From gmandas at yahoo.com Sun Jun 26 13:47:28 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:47:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey sighting in Annapolis In-Reply-To: <004601cc3408$a143f570$e3cbe050$@ca> References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4E064B4B.4050508@pacbell.net> <5CD591D15D374012B045EF6831A6949D@655vb01> <4E06DA40.6010508@chello.nl> <004601cc3408$a143f570$e3cbe050$@ca> Message-ID: <2A1FF561-0A9E-435D-8138-AA21D50C8A94@yahoo.com> I just chatted briefly with two gentlemen a blue, did you say '62, stopped at a light in Annapolis, MD. Anyone on the list? Greg 65BJ8 Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jun 26, 2011, at 9:54 AM, "PG" wrote: > I don't think you need the petrol pump disconnected......with the plugs out, > there will be no vacumm to draw fuel into the cylinders (except for the 5 > seconds of the actual test). > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Oudesluys > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 12:06 AM > To: Elton Schulz > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M Compression > > Fully warmed up engine, petrol pump disconnected or blocked, plugs out, > trottle(s) wide open, spinning the engine (appr. 5 seconds) untill you > get max. reading on compression gauge. > As simple as that. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of > coudesluijs.vcf] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jun 26 17:32:05 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:32:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Motorhead 101 - Austin 1800 ute / van mk2 | eBay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E07C175.30802@justbrits.com> ZERO bids ?? Criminal, I say, CRIMINAL !!! I most definitely wish I had the bread !! Vehicle is BEAUTIFUL IMNSHO !!!!! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *submitted by Paul K. of Beenleigh, Australia To: Rick F.: *Something a little different from this part of the world - Check it out http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/austin-1800-ute-van-mk2-/260794836396?pt=AU_Cars& hash=item3cb89565ac XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX or http://tinyurl.com/6dd4bc6* * Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ * * From austinbj8 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 26 19:09:17 2011 From: austinbj8 at yahoo.com (john gillespie) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Items for sale Message-ID: <1309136957.26009.YahooMailClassic@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Good evening I have the following items for sale, if any interest please contact me off list. Thanks, John Gillespie. 1. BJ8 tonneau stiffening bars in their original bag, bars=good, bag= fair/good. 2. Pair NOS Lucas Square 8 Plus Driving Lamps. 3. A.H. Car Club Badge (new) enamel. 4. RAC Grill Badge (new). 5. A.H. 2002 Open Roads Grill Badge (new). 6. Old RAC die cast Grill/Bumper Badge(used). 7. J.R. Gaunt 12th Lancers cloisonne Grill Badge NOS 8. BJ8 flywheel/ring gear (used). 9. BJ8 oilpan (used). TIA, John From warthodson at aol.com Sun Jun 26 20:23:58 2011 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:23:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.3.4.2.20110625191207.020649c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CE028867F1FBB8-1FC4-1C2BD@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com> Seems like an unusual part for the manufacturer to chrome plate. Gary From warthodson at aol.com Sun Jun 26 20:27:40 2011 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:27:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Compression In-Reply-To: <4E0785D8.9020409@chello.nl> References: <1730602229.10875.1309029235830.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><4E064B4B.4050508@pacbell.net><5CD591D15D374012B045EF6831A6949D@655vb01><4E06DA40.6010508@chello.nl> <004601cc3408$a143f570$e3cbe050$@ca> <4E0785D8.9020409@chello.nl> Message-ID: <8CE0288EBDEE7A4-1FC4-1C309@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com> True, but still hard to ignite the fuel in the cylinders with the plugs removed. But not impossible, I suppose. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Oudesluys To: PG Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 2:17 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M Compression You are probably correct saying it may not strictly be necessary to shut own petrol supply because of the float bowls needle valves, however I till shut off the petrol line towards the carbs whenever I want to rank the engine without firing it. Even with the plugs out there will e some airflow through the carbs sucking in petrol. ees Oudesluijs L [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of oudesluijs.vcf] ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com = From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 20:44:41 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:44:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Sightings Message-ID: I saw two Healeys--a red BT7 with Ohio plates and a gunmetal gray BJ7 or 8 with Kentucky plates (or was it the other way around?) --parked in front of the Quality Inn at Bellville, Ohio last night, the drivers no doubt spectating at the SVRA races at Mid-Ohio. I tried finding them before exiting the track today following my last race but no luck. Anyone on the list? Best--Michael Oritt From tfsbj7 at mindspring.com Sun Jun 26 20:52:08 2011 From: tfsbj7 at mindspring.com (Skip Saunders) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:52:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20110625191207.020649c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20110625191207.020649c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002201cc3475$35107230$9f315690$@mindspring.com> Funny you should mention that... I have one too.... mine has a red paint dot that is colored red ...(If that helps) Thanks -skip- -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john spaur Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:15 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt I removed the paint from the transmission and found a chrome bolt head that retains the shifter rod. It has a painted red dot on it. What is the color of the red paint? From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 23:25:16 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:25:16 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anybody could source me a light switch, please? I am completely shot here in Hungary. No way I can find such thing. Gergo From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 23:25:53 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:25:53 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ok a light switch knob what I am after, but would buy a complete switch. 2011/6/27 Austin Healey > Anybody could source me a light switch, please? I am completely shot here > in Hungary. No way I can find such thing. > > Gergo From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jun 27 02:18:40 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:18:40 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E083CE0.2040306@chello.nl> Is this the switch you are looking for? If so you can probably use the knob of a Landrover windscreen wiper/washer switch. See: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-WIPER-SWITCH-AND-SWITCH-KNOB-SERIES-III-/270771802199?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f0b41d057 I will have a look in my boxes of old junk and see what I have got. Not to hopeful though Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jun 27 02:42:40 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:42:40 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E084280.6050508@chello.nl> Gergo, Now with the first link: Is this the switch you are looking for? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HEALEY-100-4-6-3000-LIGHT-SWITCH-HEADLAMP-push-pull-/160604458073?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2564c58c59 If so you can probably use the knob of a Landrover windscreen wiper/washer switch. See: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-WIPER-SWITCH-AND-SWITCH-KNOB-SERIES-III-/270771802199?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f0b41d057 I will have a look in my boxes of old junk and see what I have got. Not to hopeful though. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jun 27 03:00:48 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:00:48 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E0846C0.20807@chello.nl> Gergo, As I feared, found the switch but no knob. There are several switches on offer on ebay, perhaps there is a suitable one with a suitable knob amongst them: The size of the six-sided stem is always the same as far as I know. http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=push+pull+switch&_sacat=See-All-Categories Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 04:00:21 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:00:21 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: <4E084280.6050508@chello.nl> References: <4E084280.6050508@chello.nl> Message-ID: "http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HEALEY-**100-4-6-3000-LIGHT-SWITCH-** HEADLAMP-push-pull-/**160604458073?pt=UK_CarsParts_** Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=**item2564c58c59 " This is how my switch looks like. I have checked ebay, but did not find this type. Gergo 2011/6/27 Oudesluys > Gergo, > > Now with the first link: > > > > Is this the switch you are looking for? > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HEALEY-**100-4-6-3000-LIGHT-SWITCH-** > HEADLAMP-push-pull-/**160604458073?pt=UK_CarsParts_** > Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=**item2564c58c59 > > > If so you can probably use the > knob of a Landrover windscreen wiper/washer switch. > See: > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-**ROVER-WIPER-SWITCH-AND-SWITCH-** > KNOB-SERIES-III-/270771802199?**pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_** > CarParts_SM&hash=**item3f0b41d057 > > I will have a look in my boxes of old junk and see what I have got. Not > to hopeful though. > > Cheers, > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 04:15:35 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:15:35 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: <4E084280.6050508@chello.nl> Message-ID: As far as I concern the knob should be round, and should read "side" and "head". Gergo 2011/6/27 Austin Healey > "http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HEALEY-**100-4-6-3000-LIGHT-SWITCH-** > HEADLAMP-push-pull-/**160604458073?pt=UK_CarsParts_** > Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=**item2564c58c59 > " > > This is how my switch looks like. I have checked ebay, but did not find > this type. > > Gergo > > > 2011/6/27 Oudesluys > >> Gergo, >> >> Now with the first link: >> >> >> >> Is this the switch you are looking for? >> >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HEALEY-**100-4-6-3000-LIGHT-SWITCH-** >> HEADLAMP-push-pull-/**160604458073?pt=UK_CarsParts_** >> Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=**item2564c58c59 >> >> >> If so you can probably use the >> knob of a Landrover windscreen wiper/washer switch. >> See: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-**ROVER-WIPER-SWITCH-AND-SWITCH-** >> KNOB-SERIES-III-/270771802199?**pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_** >> CarParts_SM&hash=**item3f0b41d057 >> >> I will have a look in my boxes of old junk and see what I have got. Not >> to hopeful though. >> >> Cheers, >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Mon Jun 27 05:03:39 2011 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:03:39 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: <4E084280.6050508@chello.nl> Message-ID: <961873D55DF34641B0E011CD1983CB62@Notebook> G'day Gergo I'm pretty sure the TR2-3 one is the same: http://www.flickr.com/photos/42265511 at N05/5623841972/ in which case you can get one here: http://www.revingtontr.com/shop/product_display.asp?cartype=tr2&productid=106685 Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz -----Original Message----- From: Austin Healey Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 8:15 PM To: Oudesluys Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] light switch knob As far as I concern the knob should be round, and should read "side" and "head". Gergo From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jun 27 05:27:20 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:27:20 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: <4E084280.6050508@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4E086918.5030709@chello.nl> Gergo, The engravings will not be found on the switches offered following my earlier link, but the knobs should help you out if you have nothing else left as a temporarily measure, until you can find an original.. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 05:52:23 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:52:23 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: <4E086918.5030709@chello.nl> References: <4E084280.6050508@chello.nl> <4E086918.5030709@chello.nl> Message-ID: It is available new from AH4H, just wanted to use an original as all the orher knobs on the dash are original. But if I cannot source an old item, I will use a new one. Many thanks: Gergo 2011/6/27 Oudesluys > Gergo, > > The engravings will not be found on the switches offered following my > earlier link, but the knobs should help you out if you have nothing else > left as a temporarily measure, until you can find an original.. > > Cheers, > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From britcrs at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 06:45:06 2011 From: britcrs at gmail.com (Marvin James) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 05:45:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Motorhead 101 - Austin 1800 ute / van mk2 | eBay In-Reply-To: <4E07C175.30802@justbrits.com> References: <4E07C175.30802@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Why would you go for that when for a lot less money, you could have this fine piece of craftsmanship. Might want to add a few bucks for seatbelts. *http://tinyurl.com/3nc6a83* On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > ZERO bids ?? Criminal, I say, CRIMINAL !!! > > I most definitely wish I had the bread !! Vehicle is BEAUTIFUL IMNSHO > !!!!! > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX**XXXXXXXXXXXXXX > *submitted by Paul K. of Beenleigh, Australia To: Rick F.: > > *Something a little different from this part of the world - Check it out > > http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/**austin-1800-ute-van-mk2-/** > 260794836396?pt=AU_Cars& > hash=item3cb89565ac austin-1800-ute-van-mk2-/**260794836396?pt=AU_Cars&%** > 0Ahash=item3cb89565ac > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX**XXXXXXXXXXXXXX > or > http://tinyurl.com/6dd4bc6* > > * > Ed > 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com > 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com > Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! > 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: > "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! > http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ > * > > * > ______________________________**_________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/britcrs at gmail.**com From warthodson at aol.com Mon Jun 27 08:47:05 2011 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:47:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CE02F037E2EED8-15FC-14F98@webmail-m155.sysops.aol.com> Here is a link to Holden's page with the knob you are looking for. http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproducts.asp?sg=1&pgCode=020&sgName=Electrical &pgName=Switches&agCode=0508&agName=Push%2DPull+Switches&pageno=2 Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Austin Healey To: Healey List Sent: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:25 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] light switch knob Anybody could source me a light switch, please? I am completely shot here in ungary. No way I can find such thing. Gergo ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Mon Jun 27 08:58:02 2011 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:58:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] [Mg-t] cars2 the movie References: <5ab4a.5f4facf0.3b39f0d0@aol.com> Message-ID: You need to take your medication :^) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] cars2 the movie >I beg to differ with you Karl. Metric system makes sense in more ways > than one. It is the British system that is confusing for most people with > fractions and inches and the base 12 measuring system. > > I think this was a conspiratorial plot by the British Crown to brainwash > people in the USA and in this way keep the USA from using the metric. > Imagine if we would have went metric back in the early 1900 - with the > force of > USA innovation we would have flooded the whole European theater with USA > goods. > > Also probably the whole world and we would be much more economically > powerful today then we are now. Teachers would teach a simple measuring > system > to students. Students would like math better. > > I believe the British inches and gallons system has made us less > competitive in the world then we could have been. > > As I said the Crown was worried the USA would be too powerful - therefore > they had to brainwash us to keep the USA in its place. Unfortunately even > the Crown was not powerful enough to keep USA completely down. That is > the > real indignity. > > Michael Balahutrak > Houston, TX > 53 TD > > > In a message dated 6/25/2011 10:45:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > kvacek at ameritech.net writes: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 09:25:17 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:25:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] [Mg-t] cars2 the movie In-Reply-To: References: <5ab4a.5f4facf0.3b39f0d0@aol.com> Message-ID: The only field in which the metric system has made significant inroads into American society relates to street drugs. Most teenagers can tell you that there are 28 grams in an ounce. Best--Michael Oritt On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Dallas Congleton < dcongleton at embarqmail.com> wrote: > You need to take your medication :^) > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: ; ; > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] cars2 the movie > > > I beg to differ with you Karl. Metric system makes sense in more ways >> than one. It is the British system that is confusing for most people with >> fractions and inches and the base 12 measuring system. >> >> I think this was a conspiratorial plot by the British Crown to brainwash >> people in the USA and in this way keep the USA from using the metric. >> Imagine if we would have went metric back in the early 1900 - with the >> force of >> USA innovation we would have flooded the whole European theater with USA >> goods. >> >> Also probably the whole world and we would be much more economically >> powerful today then we are now. Teachers would teach a simple measuring >> system >> to students. Students would like math better. >> >> I believe the British inches and gallons system has made us less >> competitive in the world then we could have been. >> >> As I said the Crown was worried the USA would be too powerful - therefore >> they had to brainwash us to keep the USA in its place. Unfortunately even >> the Crown was not powerful enough to keep USA completely down. That is >> the >> real indignity. >> >> Michael Balahutrak >> Houston, TX >> 53 TD >> >> >> In a message dated 6/25/2011 10:45:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, >> kvacek at ameritech.net writes: >> > ______________________________**_________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/michael.oritt@**gmail.com From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 27 09:33:01 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:33:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 185/70/15 tyre doesn't fit in the boot. In-Reply-To: <752282471.16788.1309045932418.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <752282471.16788.1309045932418.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: We move the tire blocks up about 1" to accept the new larger tires. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > I take the stock 'block-and-tackle' out and put the 185/70 spare on > 6-inch rim in the boot. Just fits, with a toolbox between it and > the battery to keep it from sliding around. > > Bob > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Derek Job" > To: "Forum" > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:57:50 PM > Subject: [Healeys] 185/70/15 tyre doesn't fit in the boot. > > I guess from the many threads on tyre sizes a lot of you are > running around > with 185/70/15 tyres. I am and I have one as a spare, and it won't > fit in > the boot if you use the standard wood block/wire bar/leather strap > set up. > > When I got the car the spare was jury rigged with an eye bolt, some > polyester type ribbon tape and a ratchet to tighten it to the the > strut at > the centre rear of the boot. Not very pretty and I saw this as a nice > little job to upgrade to standard and bought the missing parts. I > fitted the > block and bar after some difficulty in removing frozen nuts being > used to > keep the eye bolt in place on the rear bulkhead, only to then > studpidly > discover that I couldn't close the boot lid when I put the spare > tyre in! > Idiot, > > Just wondering what others do in this position. I don't want to go > out and > buy a narrower wheel and 165 tyre but I do like the look of the > leather > strap and bar set up. I was thinking of just ditching the wooden > block and > attaching the bar directly to the bulkhead or using just a thin > piece of > plywood in between. The couple of inches gained will be enough to > allow the > boot lid to close. Any other ideas? > > Derek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > bspidell at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Jun 27 10:09:18 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:09:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Fwd: What Retired Boeing Engineers spend their time on In-Reply-To: <0C08C3A3A55D41879C1D427B7B00F005@YOUR0311E3E941> References: <0C08C3A3A55D41879C1D427B7B00F005@YOUR0311E3E941> Message-ID: <038701cc34e4$922a8630$b67f9290$@verizon.net> Subject: What Retired Boeing Engineers spend their time on Now I think I have seen everything. A flying lawnmower. It can even do aerobatics. What is going to fly next? You can see it as the first entry on the Videos page of my site. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com ------------------------------ From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jun 27 10:18:54 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:18:54 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] [Mg-t] cars2 the movie In-Reply-To: References: <5ab4a.5f4facf0.3b39f0d0@aol.com> Message-ID: <4E08AD6E.5020206@chello.nl> Actually 0,35 gr more, and that is a fair bit of snow. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 10:21:34 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:21:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gergo, I've attached a picture of a control head (trafficator) I just restored for a fellow Healey List member. The outer cover piece is original Bakelite that I restored while the horn button is a modern plastic replacement piece that I polished, As you can see there is nor reason that a properly restored original Bakelite piece cannot look exactly like a modern plastic replacement. Cheers, Curt On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Austin Healey wrote: > Hi, > > I just came in from the garage. Unfortunately I had broken the lamp switch > knob. I restored the other knobs so if I buy a new one, it would not look > OK. Does any of You have a restorable original for a BN4? > > Gergo > _______________________________________________ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Tadek's Trafficator Mounted.JPG] From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 10:29:33 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 00:29:33 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] [Mg-t] cars2 the movie In-Reply-To: References: <5ab4a.5f4facf0.3b39f0d0@aol.com> Message-ID: Jokes aside when it comes to machining equipment, decimal imperial tolerances are much better to work with than metric tolerances. That's why Airbus continued to use inch-thousands for some engineered materials for quite some time. Same goes for altitudes, which is more precise per thousand feet than meters, and probably why they haven't replaced it yet for pilots. Alan On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Dallas Congleton < dcongleton at embarqmail.com> wrote: > You need to take your medication :^) > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: ; ; > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] cars2 the movie > > > I beg to differ with you Karl. Metric system makes sense in more ways >> than one. It is the British system that is confusing for most people with >> fractions and inches and the base 12 measuring system. >> >> I think this was a conspiratorial plot by the British Crown to brainwash >> people in the USA and in this way keep the USA from using the metric. >> Imagine if we would have went metric back in the early 1900 - with the >> force of >> USA innovation we would have flooded the whole European theater with USA >> goods. >> >> Also probably the whole world and we would be much more economically >> powerful today then we are now. Teachers would teach a simple measuring >> system >> to students. Students would like math better. >> >> I believe the British inches and gallons system has made us less >> competitive in the world then we could have been. >> >> As I said the Crown was worried the USA would be too powerful - therefore >> they had to brainwash us to keep the USA in its place. Unfortunately even >> the Crown was not powerful enough to keep USA completely down. That is >> the >> real indignity. >> >> Michael Balahutrak >> Houston, TX >> 53 TD From jhoffmannsafety at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 10:45:24 2011 From: jhoffmannsafety at gmail.com (john hoffmann) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:45:24 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 tools/jack Message-ID: I'm looking to buy, rent, or just borrow for the summer original trunk tools for a 1967 BJ8. I need the jack, knock off hammer(no longer available from Moss) tool bag and contents. Was there a strap to hold the jack/rod down to the boumber mount? My car has been accepted into the Concourse d"elegance of America (formerly Meadowbrook ) at Plymouth, MI. Any and all help would be appreciated. From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 11:40:25 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:40:25 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Curt, Realy nice item! Gergo 2011/6/27 Curt/Nancy Arndt > Gergo, > > I've attached a picture of a control head (trafficator) I just restored for > a fellow Healey List member. The outer cover piece is original Bakelite > that I restored while the horn button is a modern plastic replacement piece > that I polished, As you can see there is nor reason that a properly > restored original Bakelite piece cannot look exactly like a modern plastic > replacement. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Austin Healey wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I just came in from the garage. Unfortunately I had broken the lamp switch >> knob. I restored the other knobs so if I buy a new one, it would not look >> OK. Does any of You have a restorable original for a BN4? >> >> Gergo >> _______________________________________________ From barrie at look.ca Mon Jun 27 11:54:44 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:54:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There is a chap who sells some sort of whizz type paint/stain that restores rubber/bakerlite/etc. I have not used it but I have seen good reports on it. Now you ask "Where should I find such desirable goop?".....and the reply is.... "At www.britcot.com of course". At 01:40 PM 6/27/2011, Austin Healey wrote: >Hi Curt, > >Realy nice item! > >Gergo > >2011/6/27 Curt/Nancy Arndt > > > Gergo, > > > > I've attached a picture of a control head (trafficator) I just restored for > > a fellow Healey List member. The outer cover piece is original Bakelite > > that I restored while the horn button is a modern plastic replacement piece > > that I polished, As you can see there is nor reason that a properly > > restored original Bakelite piece cannot look exactly like a modern plastic > > replacement. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Curt > > > > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Austin Healey wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I just came in from the garage. Unfortunately I had broken the lamp switch > >> knob. I restored the other knobs so if I buy a new one, it would not look > >> OK. Does any of You have a restorable original for a BN4? > >> > >> Gergo > >> _______________________________________________ >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jun 27 11:55:50 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:55:50 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] [Mg-t] cars2 the movie In-Reply-To: References: <5ab4a.5f4facf0.3b39f0d0@aol.com> Message-ID: <4E08C426.6060008@chello.nl> It is not a question of better tolerances or better thread. In aviation the US standard threads are used as the US dominated aviation for so long, nuts and bolts are generally produced in UNF in aviation quality and rightly so to keep down production costs and uniformity of inspections and standards. A similar thing happens to bolts for the attachment of seatbelt anchors. All over the world 7/16"UNF. Kees Oudesluijs [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From happolk at cox.net Mon Jun 27 11:59:22 2011 From: happolk at cox.net (Hap Polk) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:59:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Concours discussion Message-ID: <029301cc34f3$f1b80cd0$d5282670$@cox.net> I wish to thank Roger, Curt, Rich, Gary and others for a careful, nuanced set of concours judgments balancing originality with practicality. I applaud the Healy community for its 'responsible' concours standards and its willingness to accept that each car and each car owner is unique and can and should form his own opinion about how to maintain, modify, drive and enjoy his Healy. I appreciate the group's tolerance to a variety of opinions. While I'm thanking people, I also wish to thank those who bring technical and practical expertise to the group. Your wisdom is most helpful. I have the joy of being involved with Healeys since my father bought my Healey in 1956. It has been fun to watch the Healy go from a simple, light, playful, hot-rod car, through 'hey, it's a great start for a modified", back to "you know, Donald Healey was a practical genius. Don't muck around with his cars." And, "as they were built, they are unsafe today." Having driven a Healy for 40,000 miles as a daily driver mostly at higher than legal speeds with RoadSpeed bias ply quality retreads and later Pirelli Cinturatos, I am somewhat amused about current understandable unsafe comments. To me the Healey was not unsafe, but instead an adventure. The clutch linkage broke many miles from home three separate times. The fuel pump points stuck twice. I had one engine fire, rear carb packing gland, while in the left lane on a freeway. And had unintended drifts because of water in the corner more times than I could count. Such fun. I fall in the "The best Healy is the Healy Donald would have made if he was not subject to so many parts bin, labor standards, and cost constraints" camp. Better, but sensitive to what he intended. As such, I would not win a concours, but I would enjoy the car. But I am not pure. The less visible the "improvement", the more likely I would employ it. As I am getting to the age where the Healey would pass to my kids, reducing the "adventure" becomes more desirable. Reliability and less reliance upon an understanding of and sensitivity to the analog mechanicals and the balancing of fluid flows that the Healey deserves to be its best becomes a more important issue for me. So, for example, I am in favor of electronic ignition. I am in favor of a thermostatically controlled electric radiator fan, etc. To my mind maintaining a Healey well requires the mechanical sensitivity of a steam locomotive engineer. But today's generation expects diesel-electric with drive-by-wire controls. Hap Polk From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 13:24:14 2011 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:24:14 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] [Mg-t] cars2 the movie In-Reply-To: References: <5ab4a.5f4facf0.3b39f0d0@aol.com> Message-ID: Alan, can you please explain why 'decimal imperial tolerances are much better to work with than metric tolerances'? As far as I understand 0.001 inch is two-and-a-half times larger than 0.001 millimetre, so metric dimensions are more accurate. You have to understand, of course, that in the technical field we Continentals think in millimeters, not in centimeters.. P.S.: okay guys, you won. I'll stay on the list although strictly speaking I don't belong to the family any more. Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 2011/6/27 Alan Seigrist > Jokes aside when it comes to machining equipment, decimal imperial > tolerances are much better to work with than metric tolerances. That's why > Airbus continued to use inch-thousands for some engineered materials for > quite some time. > > Same goes for altitudes, which is more precise per thousand feet than > meters, and probably why they haven't replaced it yet for pilots. > > Alan > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Dallas Congleton < > dcongleton at embarqmail.com> wrote: > > > You need to take your medication :^) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > > To: ; ; > > > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 10:42 AM > > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] cars2 the movie > > > > > > I beg to differ with you Karl. Metric system makes sense in more ways > >> than one. It is the British system that is confusing for most people > with > >> fractions and inches and the base 12 measuring system. > >> > >> I think this was a conspiratorial plot by the British Crown to brainwash > >> people in the USA and in this way keep the USA from using the metric. > >> Imagine if we would have went metric back in the early 1900 - with the > >> force of > >> USA innovation we would have flooded the whole European theater with > USA > >> goods. > >> > >> Also probably the whole world and we would be much more economically > >> powerful today then we are now. Teachers would teach a simple measuring > >> system > >> to students. Students would like math better. > >> > >> I believe the British inches and gallons system has made us less > >> competitive in the world then we could have been. > >> > >> As I said the Crown was worried the USA would be too powerful - > therefore > >> they had to brainwash us to keep the USA in its place. Unfortunately > even > >> the Crown was not powerful enough to keep USA completely down. That is > >> the > >> real indignity. > >> > >> Michael Balahutrak > >> Houston, TX > >> 53 TD > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/j.aeckerlin at gmail.com From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Jun 27 14:27:50 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:27:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] [Mg-t] cars2 the movie In-Reply-To: References: <5ab4a.5f4facf0.3b39f0d0@aol.com> Message-ID: <039f01cc3508$b034c2c0$109e4840$@verizon.net> Once a Healeyite, always a Healeyite. Besides, you developed a wealth of knowledge that could be helpful between now and the time that you get your next Healey project car. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jaap Aeckerlin Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 3:24 PM To: Alan Seigrist; Healey forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Mg-t] cars2 the movie Alan, can you please explain why 'decimal imperial tolerances are much better to work with than metric tolerances'? As far as I understand 0.001 inch is two-and-a-half times larger than 0.001 millimetre, so metric dimensions are more accurate. You have to understand, of course, that in the technical field we Continentals think in millimeters, not in centimeters.. P.S.: okay guys, you won. I'll stay on the list although strictly speaking I don't belong to the family any more. Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 2011/6/27 Alan Seigrist > Jokes aside when it comes to machining equipment, decimal imperial From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 14:59:02 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:59:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] light switch knob In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Listers, Unfortunately, there is No whiz bang method to restoring "Bakelite." Good old fashioned knowledge, proper technique and elbow grease does the trick. In other words, like good body work, no shortcuts here. I typically spend at least five hours on each control head I restore and much of that involves the cleaning, repairing, sanding (320 to 1200 grit), dying, polishing, and waxing of the Bakelite. I've attached some before and after pictures of a 100M unit I did last year. Cheers, Curt On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Barrie Robinson wrote: > There is a chap who sells some sort of whizz type paint/stain that restores > rubber/bakerlite/etc. I have not used it but I have seen good reports on > it. Now you ask "Where should I find such desirable goop?".....and the > reply is.... "At www.britcot.com of course". > > Regards > > Barrie > barrie at look.ca > 705-721-9060 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_3384.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_3386.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_3650.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_3654.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_3658.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_3643.JPG] From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jun 27 15:44:59 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:44:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Concours discussion In-Reply-To: <029301cc34f3$f1b80cd0$d5282670$@cox.net> References: <029301cc34f3$f1b80cd0$d5282670$@cox.net> Message-ID: <000001cc3513$77026c40$650744c0$@net> Hap, I absolutely love your final statements. Quote: "To my mind maintaining a Healey well requires the mechanical sensitivity of a steam locomotive engineer. But today's generation expects diesel-electric with drive-by-wire controls." It really shows that you are a steam railroader deep down there somewhere and that statement is so absolutely fitting. Rich From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Jun 27 17:23:47 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! Message-ID: <667816.91536.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Anyone heard of this? http://tinyurl.com/3upyv52 Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 02 Heritage Springer From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Mon Jun 27 17:35:43 2011 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:35:43 EDT Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! Message-ID: <229cd.6a4497e2.3b3a6dcf@aol.com> Looks interesting. I think you should try it out and then inform the group as to your results. That way if it works, we can all get one and if it doesn't, well ... In a message dated 6/27/2011 4:27:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rrengineer.mike at att.net writes: Anyone heard of this? http://tinyurl.com/3upyv52 Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 02 Heritage Springer _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/atightprod at aol.com From mslechta at chartermi.net Mon Jun 27 17:36:37 2011 From: mslechta at chartermi.net (Mike Slechta) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:36:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! In-Reply-To: <667816.91536.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <667816.91536.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <04C03D0FDEAF47E6B9A30C617B5F554A@MikesLaptop> No!! & I don't like the 1st statement of the pitch either: "THE FORMULA POWER FUEL CATALYST This will allow any engine designed to run on leaded petrol to run safely on normal pump unleaded 95 octane fuel." Where the hell will you find "normal unleaded 95 octane fuel?? Mad Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael MacLean To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:23 PM Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! Anyone heard of this? http://tinyurl.com/3upyv52 Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 02 Heritage Springer _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mslechta at chartermi.net From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Mon Jun 27 18:02:05 2011 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:02:05 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! In-Reply-To: <04C03D0FDEAF47E6B9A30C617B5F554A@MikesLaptop> References: <667816.91536.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <04C03D0FDEAF47E6B9A30C617B5F554A@MikesLaptop> Message-ID: <5672D5FA25FB4864A748EDEA6875E590@Notebook> There was a similar thing marketed in Oz when the "unleaded crisis" first hit - called the Fuelstar - and inline canister of tin pellets. I'm ashamed to say I did put one in my Daimler 2.5 litre V8, before the UK Daimler club said they'd run on unleaded, no trouble. Beauty of these things from a marketer's point of view is that it's very hard to prove/disprove efficacy over any reasonable period! Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz -----Original Message----- From: Mike Slechta Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:36 AM To: Michael MacLean ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! No!! & I don't like the 1st statement of the pitch either: "THE FORMULA POWER FUEL CATALYST This will allow any engine designed to run on leaded petrol to run safely on normal pump unleaded 95 octane fuel." Where the hell will you find "normal unleaded 95 octane fuel?? Mad Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael MacLean To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:23 PM Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! Anyone heard of this? http://tinyurl.com/3upyv52 Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 02 Heritage Springer _______________________________________________ From glemon at neb.rr.com Mon Jun 27 18:22:41 2011 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:22:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Off Topic Rolls Royce Running Resources Message-ID: <7C37B07A01F848EE90DEF39D3BDDE93F@GregPC> I have a Rolls Royce Question from a contact through our club if anyone has any knowledge or if there is a Rolls Royce resource like the Healey list you know of you can reply off list and directly to the person in question: 1st note from Josh: "Josh Shafer My name is Josh Shafer. I recently stumbled upon your club and am hoping that you might be able to help me out. I know the club is for Austin Healey's, but I have a question about the carbs on a '79 Rolls Royce. I know that both cars use the same brand so I thought maybe you could give me some advice or point me in the right direction. The car is located in North Platte. We bought the car over a year ago knowing it needed some carb work. We were able to find a local guy in NP who also had an AH. He was able to rebuild the carbs, but we have had a very hard time getting them dialed in. The car runs, but it has idle problems and it is just a pain to try to get them running properly. Any insight or literature you might have would be greatly appreciated. Moreover, if you know of anyone in the NP area who might be knowledgeable, I would love to get a hold of them. Thanks for your help - Josh" 2nd Note more detail: "Hi Greg, thank you for your email. It is actually a Silver Shadow with two SU HIF7 carbs mounted to a central tee that mounts to the manifold. And yes, it has a TON of emissions crap that is a pain. I would be very grateful if you would forward my message onto your list. It is fine with me if you keep my email in the message.I will try and go into some greater detail for you as to what is happening. Upon initial starting, the car runs just fine. But about 10 minutes of driving around, the RPM's just die off and you have to keep your foot on the gas to even keep it at idle. There were some problems initially with the fast-idle and the throttle cam not staying in place and it would drop off, or the linkage would come loose. But those two problems seem to be fixed. I'm not sure if maybe the auto-choke is keeping it up to speed initially or not. I was under the impression that if you tap the gas really fast after you start it, the auto-choke will disengage. This seems to be the case as the RPM's do drop to normal idle speed. But once you start driving it, it wants to die after a few minutes. What I suspect to be the problem is the pistons in the upper carb. I know you are supposed to keep oil in them, but it seems like it disappears immediately. You fill it up, run it, and it needs topped off again. Therefore I seem to think something isn't working right, and the pistons functioning right and letting in the right mixture of air. But again, the whole setup is much different than American carbs and it is challenging to figure out Finally, I received another email from you where it looked like you were going to attach a manual for the carbs but nothing was there. I have the shop manual for the car, but there isn't a lot on the carbs themselves. Thanks again for your help - Josh" I already told him what the dashpot piston oil does and that that should not be causing the car to die, but may cause other problems like stumble on accleration. From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 27 18:04:54 2011 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:04:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Chrome shifter bolt In-Reply-To: <8CE028867F1FBB8-1FC4-1C2BD@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20110625191207.020649c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> <8CE028867F1FBB8-1FC4-1C2BD@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20110627170302.0205c378@pop.att.yahoo.com> /8eqiTb: Permission denied From bn2cars at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 18:50:01 2011 From: bn2cars at gmail.com (Don Tate) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:50:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 water temp gauge line length Message-ID: My gauges are being restored and today they called to ask how long the capillary line needs to be. I won't bore everyone with the conversation but they informed me they cut off the line and tossed it when the gauges arrived a few months ago. I took some measurements of the path and came up with 7.5 - 8 ft. Does anyone know or have one handy to measure? Many thanks Don Tate From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jun 27 19:10:36 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:10:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! In-Reply-To: <04C03D0FDEAF47E6B9A30C617B5F554A@MikesLaptop> References: <667816.91536.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <04C03D0FDEAF47E6B9A30C617B5F554A@MikesLaptop> Message-ID: <4E092A0C.5050907@comcast.net> I believe in Europe they use only the Research Method--the 'R' in 'R+M/2'--octane rating which gives approximately 8-octane higher than the Motor Method (the 'M') in the 90-octane range. Therefore, 95-octane in GB or Europe is equivalent to 91-octane pump gas in the US. Bob On 6/27/2011 4:36 PM, Mike Slechta wrote: > No!!& I don't like the 1st statement of the pitch either: "THE FORMULA > POWER FUEL CATALYST This will allow any engine designed to run on leaded > petrol to run safely on normal pump unleaded 95 octane fuel." > Where the hell will you find "normal unleaded 95 octane fuel?? > Mad Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael MacLean > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:23 PM > Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! > > > Anyone heard of this? > > http://tinyurl.com/3upyv52 > > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > 02 Heritage Springer > _______________________________________________ > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From mslechta at chartermi.net Mon Jun 27 19:29:19 2011 From: mslechta at chartermi.net (Mike Slechta) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:29:19 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! In-Reply-To: <4E092A0C.5050907@comcast.net> References: <667816.91536.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <04C03D0FDEAF47E6B9A30C617B5F554A@MikesLaptop> <4E092A0C.5050907@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7DF6D1BB1AEE40ED8D58BC1A8CA79027@MikesLaptop> Bob ~ Thanks for the explanation, I was not aware of that. You can probably tell that I am definately upset about the way we were force fed the 10% ethanol (soon to be 15% if we continue to be the silent majority as we have in the past). Again, thanks, not so "Mad Mike" ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Spidell To: Mike Slechta Cc: Michael MacLean ; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! I believe in Europe they use only the Research Method--the 'R' in 'R+M/2'--octane rating which gives approximately 8-octane higher than the Motor Method (the 'M') in the 90-octane range. Therefore, 95-octane in GB or Europe is equivalent to 91-octane pump gas in the US. Bob On 6/27/2011 4:36 PM, Mike Slechta wrote: > No!!& I don't like the 1st statement of the pitch either: "THE FORMULA > POWER FUEL CATALYST This will allow any engine designed to run on leaded > petrol to run safely on normal pump unleaded 95 octane fuel." > Where the hell will you find "normal unleaded 95 octane fuel?? > Mad Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael MacLean > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:23 PM > Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! > > > Anyone heard of this? > > http://tinyurl.com/3upyv52 > > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > 02 Heritage Springer > _______________________________________________ > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jun 27 19:46:42 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:46:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 water temp gauge line length In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001c01cc3535$3af7d100$b0e77300$@net> Don, Sounds like a place I wouldn't want handling my instruments. Make sure they use the right bulb end. I can't give you a measurement but err on being too long, any excess is easily lost under the dash. Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Tate Sent: 2011-06-27 8:50 To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BN2 water temp gauge line length My gauges are being restored and today they called to ask how long the capillary line needs to be. I won't bore everyone with the conversation but they informed me they cut off the line and tossed it when the gauges arrived a few months ago. I took some measurements of the path and came up with 7.5 - 8 ft. Does anyone know or have one handy to measure? Many thanks Don Tate _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Mon Jun 27 19:49:49 2011 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Off Topic Rolls Royce Running Resources In-Reply-To: <7C37B07A01F848EE90DEF39D3BDDE93F@GregPC> Message-ID: <1309225789.23710.YahooMailClassic@web130221.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Fuel filter Best JK From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 27 19:50:21 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:50:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 water temp gauge line length In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The length of the tube is stamped on the top of the nut that screws into the radiator. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca www.britishcarspecialists.com On Jun 27, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Don Tate wrote: > My gauges are being restored and today they called to ask how long the > capillary line needs to be. I won't bore everyone with the conversation but > they informed me they cut off the line and tossed it when the gauges arrived a > few months ago. > > I took some measurements of the path and came up with 7.5 - 8 ft. Does anyone > know or have one handy to measure? > > Many thanks > Don Tate > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From mgcharlie at comcast.net Mon Jun 27 19:58:04 2011 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:58:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Off Topic Rolls Royce Running Resources In-Reply-To: <7C37B07A01F848EE90DEF39D3BDDE93F@GregPC> References: <7C37B07A01F848EE90DEF39D3BDDE93F@GregPC> Message-ID: <4E09352C.5000400@comcast.net> Greg, Two ideas: Contact the RROC who not only have a club, but service Rolls Royces also. http://www.rroc.org/content.asp?pl=338&contentid=338 Later MGBs have HIF carbs, so any British car mechanic should be able to work out the problems. I never heard of 1 7/8 " SU carbs, but I also never had a Rolls Royce. Charlie On 6/27/2011 8:22 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > I have a Rolls Royce Question from a contact through our club if anyone has > any knowledge or if there is a Rolls Royce resource like the Healey list you > know of you can reply off list and directly to the person in question: > > 1st note from Josh: > > "Josh Shafer > > > My name is Josh Shafer. I recently stumbled upon your club and am hoping that > you might be able to help me out. I know the club is for Austin Healey's, but > I have a question about the carbs on a '79 Rolls Royce. I know that both cars > use the same brand so I thought maybe you could give me some advice or point > me in the right direction. The car is located in North Platte. We bought the > car over a year ago knowing it needed some carb work. We were able to find a > local guy in NP who also had an AH. He was able to rebuild the carbs, but we > have had a very hard time getting them dialed in. The car runs, but it has > idle problems and it is just a pain to try to get them running properly. Any > insight or literature you might have would be greatly appreciated. Moreover, > if you know of anyone in the NP area who might be knowledgeable, I would love > to get a hold of them. Thanks for your help - Josh" [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From scvc70 at epix.net Mon Jun 27 20:12:20 2011 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:12:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 water temp gauge line length References: <001c01cc3535$3af7d100$b0e77300$@net> Message-ID: <135F4676578E40219F6F2C17CA847CB2@valuedea617bbe> On my BN1, the combined length of tubing and bulb is 88 inches (I took measurements before sending it out for rebuild so I would know where the clips were located). Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Chrysler" To: "'Don Tate'" ; Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN2 water temp gauge line length > Don, > > Sounds like a place I wouldn't want handling my instruments. Make sure > they > use the right bulb end. I can't give you a measurement but err on being > too > long, any excess is easily lost under the dash. > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Don Tate > Sent: 2011-06-27 8:50 > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] BN2 water temp gauge line length > > My gauges are being restored and today they called to ask how long the > capillary line needs to be. I won't bore everyone with the conversation > but > they informed me they cut off the line and tossed it when the gauges > arrived > a > few months ago. > > I took some measurements of the path and came up with 7.5 - 8 ft. Does > anyone > know or have one handy to measure? > > Many thanks > Don Tate From JPayne at ThorCon.net Mon Jun 27 20:32:45 2011 From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:32:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Off Topic Rolls Royce Running Resources In-Reply-To: <4E09352C.5000400@comcast.net> Message-ID: <744407513350EE4B85B11A33F329226ED6290D@otnoex3.onthenetoffice.com> I have had a difficult time tunin hif carbs on several mgb's Bottom line is that if you tune by the book they run waaaaay too lean They wrote the book and developed the tuning for emissions purposes, not performance or drivability. They idle too lown run too lean and the advance at idle is tooo retarded and there isn't much adjustment. nothing more, nothing less This would appear to be exacerbated by modern fuels Make sure you aren't sucking air at the throttle shafts and advance timing and richen mixture till it runs right, provided your mech and vac advance are working right It will run better but won't pass an emissions test ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlie Baldwin [mailto:mgcharlie at comcast.net] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 06:58 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Off Topic Rolls Royce Running Resources Greg, Two ideas: Contact the RROC who not only have a club, but service Rolls Royces also. http://www.rroc.org/content.asp?pl=338&contentid=338 Later MGBs have HIF carbs, so any British car mechanic should be able to work out the problems. I never heard of 1 7/8 " SU carbs, but I also never had a Rolls Royce. Charlie On 6/27/2011 8:22 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > I have a Rolls Royce Question from a contact through our club if anyone has > any knowledge or if there is a Rolls Royce resource like the Healey list you > know of you can reply off list and directly to the person in question: > > 1st note from Josh: > > "Josh Shafer > > > My name is Josh Shafer. I recently stumbled upon your club and am hoping that > you might be able to help me out. I know the club is for Austin Healey's, but > I have a question about the carbs on a '79 Rolls Royce. I know that both cars > use the same brand so I thought maybe you could give me some advice or point > me in the right direction. The car is located in North Platte. We bought the > car over a year ago knowing it needed some carb work. We were able to find a > local guy in NP who also had an AH. He was able to rebuild the carbs, but we > have had a very hard time getting them dialed in. The car runs, but it has > idle problems and it is just a pain to try to get them running properly. Any > insight or literature you might have would be greatly appreciated. Moreover, > if you know of anyone in the NP area who might be knowledgeable, I would love > to get a hold of them. Thanks for your help - Josh" [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Jun 27 21:25:11 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! In-Reply-To: <229cd.6a4497e2.3b3a6dcf@aol.com> References: <229cd.6a4497e2.3b3a6dcf@aol.com> Message-ID: <385509.34738.qm@web180612.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Oh, thanks. I think I'll pass. Mike >________________________________ >From: "ATIGHTPROD at aol.com" >To: rrengineer.mike at att.net; healeys at autox.team.net >Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 4:35 PM >Subject: Re: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! > > >Looks interesting. I think you should try it out and then inform the group as to your results. That way if it works, we can all get one and if it doesn't, well ... > > >In a message dated 6/27/2011 4:27:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rrengineer.mike at att.net writes: >Anyone heard of this? >> >>http://tinyurl.com/3upyv52 >> >>Mike MacLean >>56 BN2 >>60 AN5 >>02 Heritage Springer >>_______________________________________________ >>Healeys at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/atightprod at aol.com From austin.healey at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 21:27:59 2011 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:27:59 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] [Mg-t] cars2 the movie In-Reply-To: References: <5ab4a.5f4facf0.3b39f0d0@aol.com> Message-ID: <716BFC8B-1718-4681-8054-F0E246AFD0DC@gmail.com> Hang on - didn't you Americans dream up your US gallons measure all on your own?? Rather than using imperial gallons? Can't blame the Brits for that!!! ;-) Sent from my iPhone On 28/06/2011, at 12:58 AM, "Dallas Congleton" wrote: > You need to take your medication :^) > > > ----- Original >> >> >> >> I believe the British inches and gallons system has made us less >> competitive in the world then we could have been. From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Mon Jun 27 21:48:35 2011 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 03:48:35 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! In-Reply-To: <667816.91536.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <667816.91536.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Never heard of this but it looks like used Christmas decorations, painted silver and wrapped in the same meshy material that is put on the outside of a house to get the stucco to stick better. Jean Caron > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:23:47 -0700 > From: rrengineer.mike at att.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! > > Anyone heard of this? > > http://tinyurl.com/3upyv52 > > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > 02 Heritage Springer > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/vintage_roadster_restoration at ho tmail.com From robertlarson at att.net Mon Jun 27 22:50:53 2011 From: robertlarson at att.net (Bob) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 00:50:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] [Mg-t] cars2 the movie In-Reply-To: <716BFC8B-1718-4681-8054-F0E246AFD0DC@gmail.com> References: <5ab4a.5f4facf0.3b39f0d0@aol.com> <716BFC8B-1718-4681-8054-F0E246AFD0DC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E095DAD.4070003@att.net> You hold on here..... It is the Imperial gallon which is the result of a dream. We still still use the Queen Anne gallon which is the true British gallon. You gave that gallon up in the early 1800's. So our gallon is the true British gallon and has been around longer than your upstart Imperial gallon. So just maybe it was the Brits who did not like that breakaway colony using their standard so changed it. Or maybe Queen Anne was not Imperial enough any longer. I don't know why you Brit's changed it Bob On 6/27/2011 11:27 PM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > Hang on - didn't you Americans dream up your US gallons measure all on your > own?? Rather than using imperial gallons? Can't blame the Brits for that!!! > ;-) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 28/06/2011, at 12:58 AM, "Dallas Congleton" wrote: > >> You need to take your medication :^) >> >> >> ----- Original >>> >>> >>> >>> I believe the British inches and gallons system has made us less >>> competitive in the world then we could have been. From robertlarson at att.net Mon Jun 27 23:07:54 2011 From: robertlarson at att.net (Bob) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:07:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] [Mg-t] cars2 the movie In-Reply-To: <039f01cc3508$b034c2c0$109e4840$@verizon.net> References: <5ab4a.5f4facf0.3b39f0d0@aol.com> <039f01cc3508$b034c2c0$109e4840$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4E0961AA.1030406@att.net> Once a "Healey Brother" always one. You changed your wife/master , that is OK. Bob > P.S.: okay guys, you won. I'll stay on the list although strictly speaking I > don't belong to the family any more. > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > > 2011/6/27 Alan Seigrist From britishcars at shaw.ca Mon Jun 27 23:10:00 2011 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:10:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Horns Message-ID: <003801cc3551$a1bea230$e53be690$@ca> I have a pair of Lucas 9H horns that are not functioning..they are found in later model British Cars (>BJ7). Horns are driven by points and I want to take them apart to clean them. The later horns are riveted together (versus screwed as are earlier Healey horns). I understand how to get the rivets out (drilling them) but not sure what to replace them with. Pop rivets won't look correct..anybody have a suggestion? Thanks, Paul From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 00:20:03 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:20:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Horns In-Reply-To: <003801cc3551$a1bea230$e53be690$@ca> References: <003801cc3551$a1bea230$e53be690$@ca> Message-ID: You are right I am screwed. The cheese head screws ripped right off , even after soaking with penetrating oil. I have 2 sets and neither came apart..... Thinking about an air horn.... Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 27, 2011 10:29 PM, "PG" wrote: > I have a pair of Lucas 9H horns that are not functioning..they are found in > later model British Cars (>BJ7). > > > > Horns are driven by points and I want to take them apart to clean them. > The later horns are riveted together (versus screwed as are earlier Healey > horns). > > > > I understand how to get the rivets out (drilling them) but not sure what to > replace them with. Pop rivets won't look correct..anybody have a > suggestion? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jun 28 01:11:34 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:11:34 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Horns In-Reply-To: <003801cc3551$a1bea230$e53be690$@ca> References: <003801cc3551$a1bea230$e53be690$@ca> Message-ID: <4E097EA6.2060604@chello.nl> What about rivets? Still available in many shapes and sizes in steel, copper and aluminium. Alternatively screws and nuts (stainless steel) for future maintainance. Cut new paper/thin carton gaskets and soak them well in heavy oil before fitting. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 01:20:22 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:20:22 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] First start Message-ID: Hi, Nice day. I thought, why not starting my BN4 first time in 25years? The answer came in quickly: the starter is not strong enough to move the engine. Is it a "normal issue" on rebuilt 6 cyl engines, or is my starter dead? (Engine earth on, battery cable big enough (35q), battery 74A) Gergo From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jun 28 01:20:19 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:20:19 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! In-Reply-To: <667816.91536.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <667816.91536.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E0980B3.5010205@chello.nl> Don't bother. None of these gadgets ever proved to work. All they do is costing money. Some straighten up ionized particles, other disolve some metal, have a "catalist", etc. etc. There is no end to the marketing bullshit. Thousands of these things have been marketed in the past 50 years and if tested seriously never showed to have the desired effect. Kees Oudesluijs [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jun 28 01:26:48 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:26:48 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! In-Reply-To: <04C03D0FDEAF47E6B9A30C617B5F554A@MikesLaptop> References: <667816.91536.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <04C03D0FDEAF47E6B9A30C617B5F554A@MikesLaptop> Message-ID: <4E098238.7020903@chello.nl> 95 octane unleaded is the standard petrol in Europe. In some countries 98 octane unleaded can be had, but not everywhere. There is a difference in standard octane rating in Europ and the USA. 95 octane EU is about 90 octane in the USA, I think. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Tue Jun 28 01:44:01 2011 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:44:01 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Gergo, The starter should be able to turn the freshly restored engine. First I would check the earth connection starter-engine (paint on starter motor), engine-chassis is not strong enough. If this is all ok, seems your starter needs an overhaul or your starter solenoid is not in best health. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Austin Healey Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2011 09:20 An: Healey List Betreff: [Healeys] First start Hi, Nice day. I thought, why not starting my BN4 first time in 25years? The answer came in quickly: the starter is not strong enough to move the engine. Is it a "normal issue" on rebuilt 6 cyl engines, or is my starter dead? (Engine earth on, battery cable big enough (35q), battery 74A) Gergo From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jun 28 01:56:02 2011 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:56:02 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E098912.8020601@chello.nl> After 25 years it might be a good idea to dismantle, clean and lubricate the starter. Renew the brushes if neccesary and clean the collector on a lathe with some very fine emery paper. If groves are clearly present take a small fine cut from the collector and remove the insulating material between the segments with a ground flat hacksaw blade to about 0,5 mm below the surface if necessary. Lubricate the bearings by soaking them in thin oil for about 24 hours or immerse them in hot thin oil and let cool down while in the oil. Lubricate the sliding surface of the spindle/gearwheel with a little graphite powder and rub in with a small bit of chamois leather. Same with the starter solenoid and battery cut-off switch, dismantle, inspect, clean the large contacts points or renew the complete assembly. Check the battery terminals for tightness and cleanliness. Check the battery and engine earth straps for cracks and cleanliness of fixing points to engine/chassis. After such a long time contacts tend to be corroded and are the cause of increased resistance hampering performance. Not only that, but they also form a fire hazard as they can get very hot. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 03:09:45 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:09:45 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gergo - Your starter needs to be cleaned and gear lubricated to work properly. Also have your armature checked by any auto electrical shop, they will know what to do even in Magyar, it is a very basic motor. Alan On 6/28/11, Austin Healey wrote: > Hi, > > Nice day. I thought, why not starting my BN4 first time in 25years? The > answer came in quickly: the starter is not strong enough to move the engine. > Is it a "normal issue" on rebuilt 6 cyl engines, or is my starter dead? > (Engine earth on, battery cable big enough (35q), battery 74A) > > Gergo > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Tue Jun 28 03:13:34 2011 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:13:34 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: <4E098912.8020601@chello.nl> References: <4E098912.8020601@chello.nl> Message-ID: <0237DD44D47D456283FA560A58F4098D@Notebook> G'day all We just had a similar problem on a 100 - bypassed the cut-out switch and bingo! Away she went. That said on another 100 turned out to be brushes on the starter itself Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz -----Original Message----- From: Oudesluys Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:56 PM To: Austin Healey Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] First start After 25 years it might be a good idea to dismantle, clean and lubricate the starter. Renew the brushes if neccesary and clean the collector on a lathe with some very fine emery paper. If groves are clearly present take a small fine cut from the collector and remove the insulating material between the segments with a ground flat hacksaw blade to about 0,5 mm below the surface if necessary. Lubricate the bearings by soaking them in thin oil for about 24 hours or immerse them in hot thin oil and let cool down while in the oil. Lubricate the sliding surface of the spindle/gearwheel with a little graphite powder and rub in with a small bit of chamois leather. Same with the starter solenoid and battery cut-off switch, dismantle, inspect, clean the large contacts points or renew the complete assembly. Check the battery terminals for tightness and cleanliness. Check the battery and engine earth straps for cracks and cleanliness of fixing points to engine/chassis. After such a long time contacts tend to be corroded and are the cause of increased resistance hampering performance. Not only that, but they also form a fire hazard as they can get very hot. Kees Oudesluijs NL From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 03:56:29 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:56:29 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: <0237DD44D47D456283FA560A58F4098D@Notebook> References: <4E098912.8020601@chello.nl> <0237DD44D47D456283FA560A58F4098D@Notebook> Message-ID: Hi, I have found my problem. A small piece of insulation material has got cought between the starter and the plate. It made the starter fitt incorrectly and it made it stucked. Such thing happen. Especialy if the "wannadrive-fever" is soo high as in my case. Now things are ok. starter turning the engine without problem. I have just got the oil pressure. Soo after lunch, if God will stand on my side, who knows maybe I will hear it singing. Thanks for Your input. Gergo 2011/6/28 Peter & Veronica > G'day all > > We just had a similar problem on a 100 - bypassed the cut-out switch and > bingo! Away she went. > > That said on another 100 turned out to be brushes on the starter itself > > Cheers > > Peter Linn > Brisbane Oz > > -----Original Message----- From: Oudesluys > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:56 PM > To: Austin Healey > Cc: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] First start > > > After 25 years it might be a good idea to dismantle, clean and > lubricate the starter. Renew the brushes if neccesary and clean the > collector on a lathe with some very fine emery paper. If groves are > clearly present take a small fine cut from the collector and remove the > insulating material between the segments with a ground flat hacksaw > blade to about 0,5 mm below the surface if necessary. > Lubricate the bearings by soaking them in thin oil for about 24 hours or > immerse them in hot thin oil and let cool down while in the oil. > Lubricate the sliding surface of the spindle/gearwheel with a little > graphite powder and rub in with a small bit of chamois leather. > > Same with the starter solenoid and battery cut-off switch, dismantle, > inspect, clean the large contacts points or renew the complete assembly. > > Check the battery terminals for tightness and cleanliness. > Check the battery and engine earth straps for cracks and cleanliness of > fixing points to engine/chassis. > > > After such a long time contacts tend to be corroded and are the cause of > increased resistance hampering performance. Not only that, but they also > form a fire hazard as they can get very hot. > > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Tue Jun 28 04:49:44 2011 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:49:44 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 tools/jack In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <744E9B19505742A5B5CAC24A7C835E97@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day John As a matter of interest there was a BJ8 tool kit for sale on eBay just last week. The ad implies that it was complete, but I can't see the hammer. The eBay number is 320709618144 Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john hoffmann Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2011 2:45 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 tools/jack I'm looking to buy, rent, or just borrow for the summer original trunk tools for a 1967 BJ8. I need the jack, knock off hammer(no longer available from Moss) tool bag and contents. Was there a strap to hold the jack/rod down to the boumber mount? My car has been accepted into the Concourse d"elegance of America (formerly Meadowbrook ) at Plymouth, MI. Any and all help would be appreciated. From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 28 05:04:06 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (mark lapierre) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 04:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Horns for sale Message-ID: <1309259046.54249.YahooMailClassic@web180101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have a set of early horns for sale. One is open and can be used for parts the other is still together. No sound from either. Internal condition of complete horn is unknown. Buyer beware, how else can I put it? I soaked the screws on the one horn with BP Blaster for about a week and was able to get the screws out. Patience is necessary. $30.00 for the pair. You pay for shipping from IN. I don't know shipping costs so please don't bomb me with that question. Mark From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 28 05:09:36 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (mark lapierre) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 04:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Selling off spares Message-ID: <1309259376.46185.YahooMailClassic@web180110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> My Healey restoration has come to a close so I will be selling off my extras. If you need something for your car please drop me a line. I would prefer to get these parts to the folks that need them for their cars rather than to some one that just wants to hoard a bunch of parts. Thanks, Mark From twillig at ruda.de Tue Jun 28 06:15:14 2011 From: twillig at ruda.de (Thomas Willig) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:15:14 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> I encountered the same problem when I started my BN2 after 30+ years of slumber. I even had a "professionally" rebuild starter motor. Then I found out that my starter was, also looking like the original thing from the outside, not the right unit for my car. The starter came from a Triumph (2 Liter Engine). My advice therefore: Check the number on your starter and make sure it is the correct type for you car. Before you respond that all starters are the same etc. etc. NO, they are not! They might be identical from the visual appearance, the internal parts are different. The different Lucas part numbers for armatures and field coils are used for good reasons. Regards Thomas Willig -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Austin Healey [mailto:pajtamuvek at gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2011 09:20 An: Healey List Betreff: [Healeys] First start Hi, Nice day. I thought, why not starting my BN4 first time in 25years? The answer came in quickly: the starter is not strong enough to move the engine. Is it a "normal issue" on rebuilt 6 cyl engines, or is my starter dead? (Engine earth on, battery cable big enough (35q), battery 74A) Gergo From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 06:47:01 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:47:01 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> Message-ID: Huston We've got problem. Start delayed. I have found some water coming from the head gasket area. I have used a non-original cylinder head gasket to raise compression. It looks like that it was not a good idea. Gergo who is not happy. 2011/6/28 Thomas Willig > I encountered the same problem when I started my BN2 after 30+ years of > slumber. I even had a "professionally" rebuild starter motor. Then I found > out that my starter was, also looking like the original thing from the > outside, not the right unit for my car. The starter came from a Triumph (2 > Liter Engine). My advice therefore: Check the number on your starter and > make sure it is the correct type for you car. > > Before you respond that all starters are the same etc. etc. NO, they are > not! They might be identical from the visual appearance, the internal parts > are different. The different Lucas part numbers for armatures and field > coils are used for good reasons. > > > Regards > > > Thomas Willig > > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Austin Healey [mailto:pajtamuvek at gmail.com] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2011 09:20 > An: Healey List > Betreff: [Healeys] First start > > Hi, > > Nice day. I thought, why not starting my BN4 first time in 25years? The > answer came in quickly: the starter is not strong enough to move the > engine. > Is it a "normal issue" on rebuilt 6 cyl engines, or is my starter dead? > (Engine earth on, battery cable big enough (35q), battery 74A) > > Gergo From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jun 28 06:53:16 2011 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 05:53:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! In-Reply-To: <4E0980B3.5010205@chello.nl> References: <667816.91536.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4E0980B3.5010205@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4E09CEBC.5000209@comcast.net> Amen to that. The implication with these is that the metal--whatever it is--will dissolve in the gas and raise octane. In general, elemental metals will not dissolve or react in organic compounds like gasoline (they might react with any water in the gas and produce sediment, though). That's why lead had to be compounded with organics--the 'tetraethyl' in tetraethyl-lead--so that it would be soluble in gasoline and provide its anti-detonation attributes. The advertisements for these 'miracle' products usually have enough pseudo-science to sound plausible to the, uh, uninformed. Another 'favorite' is the clamp-on magnets that supposedly align the gasoline molecules somehow to increase mileage. The magnets in the Large Hadron Collider might be able to do something, but would not be particularly feasible in a Healey. These gimmicks accomplish one desired effect--they transport money from the pockets of gullible buyers into the pockets of the con men selling them. Bob On 6/28/2011 12:20 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > Don't bother. None of these gadgets ever proved to work. All they do is > costing money. Some straighten up ionized particles, other disolve some > metal, have a "catalist", etc. etc. There is no end to the marketing > bullshit. > Thousands of these things have been marketed in the past 50 years and if > tested seriously never showed to have the desired effect. > Kees Oudesluijs > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 28 07:13:08 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:13:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Horns for sale References: <1309259046.54249.YahooMailClassic@web180101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001401cc3595$206fd160$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Horns are sold, Sorry. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark lapierre" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:04 AM Subject: [Healeys] Horns for sale >I have a set of early horns for sale. One is open and can be used for >parts > the other > is still together. No sound from either. Internal condition of complete > horn is unknown. > Buyer beware, how else can I put it? > > I soaked the screws on the one horn with BP Blaster for about a week and > was > able to get the screws out. Patience is necessary. > > $30.00 for the pair. You pay for shipping from IN. I don't know > shipping > costs so please don't bomb me with that question. > > Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 09:06:20 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:06:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Selling off spares In-Reply-To: <1309259376.46185.YahooMailClassic@web180110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1309259376.46185.YahooMailClassic@web180110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Do you a list of what is available? Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 28, 2011 4:33 AM, "mark lapierre" wrote: > My Healey restoration has come to a close so I will be selling off my extras. > > If you need something for your car please drop me a line. I would prefer to > get these parts to the folks that need them for their cars rather than to some > one that just wants to hoard a bunch of parts. > > Thanks, Mark > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From Editorgary at aol.com Tue Jun 28 09:44:37 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:44:37 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Cars 2 Message-ID: <7d2a7.2644e6fa.3b3b50e5@aol.com> Thought I saw a remark on the new Pixar movie in the list, but didn't find it. So, I'll toss in my two cents. Any British gearhead needs to see this movie. How can you pass up a spy movie where the plot turns (or doesn't turn) on Whitworth bolts? Not to mention that the visuals of racing in Tokyo are amazing spins on reality while the race in Italy is a marvelous confection of Monte Carlo and Portofino. Try to look away from the action at the backgrounds and see how many automobile parts you can see. And how about spare parts boxes in green and white from British Wheeland? And voices from everyone from David Hobbs to Michael Caine. And the new cars in the movie -- several different Topolinos, an E-Type, an Aston, an F1 car, and others -- are great fun. Here's a trivia question: What car was Holley Shiftwell, the British intelligence agent, really based on? The movie notes say Jag XJR15, but I don't believe that is entirely accurate. Just a caution -- if the kid isn't into cars and gets bored easily, even if they dearly love their Lightning McQueen toy, they may not make it through the nearly two hours. Likewise the sigoth. Fun movie. G. From jstmorris at yahoo.com Tue Jun 28 13:26:16 2011 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Horns Message-ID: <1309289176.30001.YahooMailClassic@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Paul. Here is the Lucas workshop instructions for the 9H horn that may help although your direct question does not seem to be answered. :-( --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, :-) Murphy Lives --- On Tue, 6/28/11, PG wrote:<< I have a pair of Lucas 9H horns that are not functioning..they are found in later model British Cars (>BJ7). Horns are driven by points and I want to take them apart to clean them. The later horns are riveted together (versus screwed as are earlier Healey horns). I understand how to get the rivets out (drilling them) but not sure what to replace them with. Pop rivets won't look correct..anybody have a suggestion? Thanks, Paul >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of K-6] From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 14:18:38 2011 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:18:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Colorado Springs Conclave Message-ID: only a couple of days left. my son and i will be leaving fri am and will break the approx 750 mile trip into two days. we anticipate arriving at the Crowne Plaza sat pm. we'll be going through Amarillo, Tx where they saw a record 113F. several days ago. steady 100's are predicted for the week-end. Sure glad the BN6 has a/c with the hardtop. cheers, -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From barrie at look.ca Tue Jun 28 14:19:34 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:19:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] What the Heck !?! In-Reply-To: <229cd.6a4497e2.3b3a6dcf@aol.com> References: <229cd.6a4497e2.3b3a6dcf@aol.com> Message-ID: Sounds like one of those scams such as a propeller in your carb intake, magnetic clamps on your ignition wires, magnetic clamps on your fuel line (it ionizes your fuel!) and several other such rubbish At 07:35 PM 6/27/2011, ATIGHTPROD at aol.com wrote: >Looks interesting. I think you should try it out and then inform the group >as to your results. That way if it works, we can all get one and if it >doesn't, well ... > > > >In a message dated 6/27/2011 4:27:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >rrengineer.mike at att.net writes: > >Anyone heard of this? > >http://tinyurl.com/3upyv52 > >Mike MacLean >56 BN2 >60 AN5 >02 Heritage Springer >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/atightprod at aol.com >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 15:17:24 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:17:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Flywheel Message-ID: Hi Listers, Does anyone out there have a spare BJ8 flywheel for sale? Contact me off list. Thank you, Curt (760) 458-1926 From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 15:19:32 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:19:32 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: <336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> <336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Thanks Roland, After lamenting a bit over the subject, I decided to replace the gasket. I have lost my faith in this "custom" item. I think thge pressure is not enough on this rather big area to make this type of material working. I did the swap. No water leaks this time. I will try to relive the engine tomorow. Gergo 2011/6/28 > Before you start tearing down your engine, remember that you will be > torquing the head bolts/studs at least a couple of times in the early hours > of your engine's operation. But if there is a leak now with essentially no > pressure on the water flow I would suspect something major is permitting it. > Perhaps some debris around the stud bases. Or, perish the thought, a crack > in the head. > > -Roland > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Austin Healey > Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:47:01 > To: Thomas Willig > Cc: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] First start > > Huston We've got problem. Start delayed. I have found some water coming > from > the head gasket area. I have used a non-original cylinder head gasket to > raise compression. It looks like that it was not a good idea. > > Gergo who is not happy. > > 2011/6/28 Thomas Willig > > > I encountered the same problem when I started my BN2 after 30+ years of > > slumber. I even had a "professionally" rebuild starter motor. Then I > found > > out that my starter was, also looking like the original thing from the > > outside, not the right unit for my car. The starter came from a Triumph > (2 > > Liter Engine). My advice therefore: Check the number on your starter and > > make sure it is the correct type for you car. > > > > Before you respond that all starters are the same etc. etc. NO, they are > > not! They might be identical from the visual appearance, the internal > parts > > are different. The different Lucas part numbers for armatures and field > > coils are used for good reasons. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Thomas Willig > > > > > > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Austin Healey [mailto:pajtamuvek at gmail.com] > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2011 09:20 > > An: Healey List > > Betreff: [Healeys] First start > > > > Hi, > > > > Nice day. I thought, why not starting my BN4 first time in 25years? The > > answer came in quickly: the starter is not strong enough to move the > > engine. > > Is it a "normal issue" on rebuilt 6 cyl engines, or is my starter dead? > > (Engine earth on, battery cable big enough (35q), battery 74A) > > > > Gergo > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rwil at sbcglobal.net From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 28 15:43:54 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:43:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Colorado Springs Conclave In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We will be heading out on Friday also taking 2 1/2 days almost 1300 miles. Taking HWY 50 should be a fun trip. We are planning overnight stops at Austin Nevada Friday night and Green River Utah on Saturday night. Then it s up Glenwood Canyon thru Vail and Breckenridge, then south around Pikes Peak to Colorado Springs. Hopefully the weather cooperates. Its raining here in Sunny California in the end of June its only been about 20 years since that happened. Global Warming See you all there David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:18 PM, jerry wall wrote: > only a couple of days left. my son and i will be leaving fri am > and will > break the approx 750 mile trip into two days. we anticipate > arriving at the > Crowne Plaza sat pm. we'll be going through Amarillo, Tx where > they saw a > record 113F. several days ago. steady 100's are predicted for the > week-end. Sure glad the BN6 has a/c with the hardtop. > cheers, > > -- > jerry wall BN6 > rowlett, tx > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Jun 28 16:06:58 2011 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:06:58 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Colorado Springs Conclave In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anyone needing to cool their heels enroute or on the return are welcome to do so here in smoky, windy and yes, hot Albuquerque.. I-25 and I40 dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jerry wall Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:19 PM To: Subject: [Healeys] Colorado Springs Conclave only a couple of days left. my son and i will be leaving fri am and will break the approx 750 mile trip into two days. we anticipate arriving at the Crowne Plaza sat pm. we'll be going through Amarillo, Tx where they saw a record 113F. several days ago. steady 100's are predicted for the week-end. Sure glad the BN6 has a/c with the hardtop. cheers, From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 28 16:25:34 2011 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:25:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Flywheel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <322F8D23-EC34-4DF9-B1A0-D6DEABFF1081@sbcglobal.net> Yes we have some used ones David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 28, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Hi Listers, > > Does anyone out there have a spare BJ8 flywheel for sale? > > Contact me off list. > > Thank you, > > Curt > (760) 458-1926 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From jstmorris at yahoo.com Tue Jun 28 16:48:50 2011 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Horns In-Reply-To: <4E0A4531.3000505@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <1309301330.1304.YahooMailClassic@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Ed; The Lucas Workshop Instructions for the HF1748 and Windtone 9H horns can be found at the Austin Healey Club of Southern Ontario website in the technical section. See http://www.ahcso.com/Technical.html HF1748 http://www.ahcso.com/pdfs/k_4_horns_hf1746_47_48.pdf Windtone 9H http://www.ahcso.com/pdfs/k_6_horns_windtone_9h.pdf Enjoy!! --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada -Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:<< May I also have please, Scott ?!? TIA ! Moi >> From 57healey at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 19:27:24 2011 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:27:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Cars 2 Message-ID: <-1792840491215513880@unknownmsgid> I just came back from seeing it with the wife and girls, they liked it. I loved it, lots of little car stuff I was likely the only one in the crowd who appreciated. On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:22 PM, "healeys-request at autox.team.net" > > Thought I saw a remark on the new Pixar movie in the list, but didn't find > it. So, I'll toss in my two cents. Any British gearhead needs to see this > movie. How can you pass up a spy movie where the plot turns (or doesn't turn) > on Whitworth bolts? Not to mention that the visuals of racing in Tokyo are > amazing spins on reality while the race in Italy is a marvelous confection of > Monte Carlo and Portofino. Try to look away from the action at the > backgrounds and see how many automobile parts you can see. And how about spare parts > boxes in green and white from British Wheeland? And voices from everyone > from David Hobbs to Michael Caine. And the new cars in the movie -- several > different Topolinos, an E-Type, an Aston, an F1 car, and others -- are great > fun. Here's a trivia question: What car was Holley Shiftwell, the British > intelligence agent, really based on? The movie notes say Jag XJR15, but I don't > believe that is entirely accurate. > Just a caution -- if the kid isn't into cars and gets bored easily, even if > they dearly love their Lightning McQueen toy, they may not make it through > the nearly two hours. Likewise the sigoth. > Fun movie. > > G. From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 21:42:46 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:42:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 door handles Message-ID: I read Richard Bittmann great description in the archives on whatg to look out for when rebuilding door handles, but I found no info on how to take them apart without breaking them. I have a number of them, and need to mix and match the best parts to build two outside handles. So how do I get the pins out without hosing the parts? -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 23:00:04 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:00:04 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> <336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Gergo - Good choice. The standard copper gasket rarely if ever leaks on the 6 cyl. Alan On 6/29/11, Austin Healey wrote: > Thanks Roland, > > After lamenting a bit over the subject, I decided to replace the gasket. I > have lost my faith in this "custom" item. I think thge pressure is not > enough on this rather big area to make this type of material working. > I did the swap. No water leaks this time. I will try to relive the engine > tomorow. > > Gergo > > 2011/6/28 > >> Before you start tearing down your engine, remember that you will be >> torquing the head bolts/studs at least a couple of times in the early >> hours >> of your engine's operation. But if there is a leak now with essentially no >> pressure on the water flow I would suspect something major is permitting >> it. >> Perhaps some debris around the stud bases. Or, perish the thought, a crack >> in the head. >> >> -Roland >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Austin Healey >> Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:47:01 >> To: Thomas Willig >> Cc: Healey List >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] First start >> >> Huston We've got problem. Start delayed. I have found some water coming >> from >> the head gasket area. I have used a non-original cylinder head gasket to >> raise compression. It looks like that it was not a good idea. >> >> Gergo who is not happy. >> >> 2011/6/28 Thomas Willig >> >> > I encountered the same problem when I started my BN2 after 30+ years of >> > slumber. I even had a "professionally" rebuild starter motor. Then I >> found >> > out that my starter was, also looking like the original thing from the >> > outside, not the right unit for my car. The starter came from a Triumph >> (2 >> > Liter Engine). My advice therefore: Check the number on your starter and >> > make sure it is the correct type for you car. >> > >> > Before you respond that all starters are the same etc. etc. NO, they >> > are >> > not! They might be identical from the visual appearance, the internal >> parts >> > are different. The different Lucas part numbers for armatures and field >> > coils are used for good reasons. >> > >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > >> > Thomas Willig >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> > Von: Austin Healey [mailto:pajtamuvek at gmail.com] >> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2011 09:20 >> > An: Healey List >> > Betreff: [Healeys] First start >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > Nice day. I thought, why not starting my BN4 first time in 25years? The >> > answer came in quickly: the starter is not strong enough to move the >> > engine. >> > Is it a "normal issue" on rebuilt 6 cyl engines, or is my starter dead? >> > (Engine earth on, battery cable big enough (35q), battery 74A) >> > >> > Gergo >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rwil at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From lgalper1 at cox.net Wed Jun 29 00:02:32 2011 From: lgalper1 at cox.net (Lou G) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:02:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rendezvous 2011 Message-ID: <20110629020232.9KFSX.1007925.imail@fed1rmwml43> Here we are in Vancouver, Washington at Rendezvous having a good time. Some of the Healey List contributors (Len, Ira) are here, but haven't sent any reports in yet, so I will mention a few items. On the field today, we had about 75 cars, with 3 Nash Healeys in one place at the same time!, and a few Bugeye and square-bodied Sprites. Light drizzle at noon didn't bother anyone as we had a covered area for lunch. The valve cover racing was introduced by Ed Neumeyer, and was enjoyed by the mostly retirement-age group who enjoy sitting down a lot. No beer was on-hand for the valve cover event, but it was still a hit, and the spectators were well-behaved. Ed has the track enroute to Conclave at the present time. Tomorrow we have a choice of a drive to Mt St Helens or a rallye led by Reid Trummel. The road from Seattle to here is Interstate 5, which alternates between 2 and 3 lanes southbound, about 160 miles. The unusual thing is that no one seems to drive over the speed limit of 70. In So. California, 70 is the guideline for the slow lane, which causes problems for many of our Sprite friends. Cheers, Lou From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 00:11:33 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:11:33 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> <336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Just a quick note: engine bursted into life on the very first attempt. Gergo 2011/6/29 Alan Seigrist > Gergo - > > Good choice. The standard copper gasket rarely if ever leaks on the 6 cyl. > > Alan > > On 6/29/11, Austin Healey wrote: > > Thanks Roland, > > > > After lamenting a bit over the subject, I decided to replace the gasket. > I > > have lost my faith in this "custom" item. I think thge pressure is not > > enough on this rather big area to make this type of material working. > > I did the swap. No water leaks this time. I will try to relive the engine > > tomorow. > > > > Gergo > > > > 2011/6/28 > > > >> Before you start tearing down your engine, remember that you will be > >> torquing the head bolts/studs at least a couple of times in the early > >> hours > >> of your engine's operation. But if there is a leak now with essentially > no > >> pressure on the water flow I would suspect something major is permitting > >> it. > >> Perhaps some debris around the stud bases. Or, perish the thought, a > crack > >> in the head. > >> > >> -Roland > >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Austin Healey > >> Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:47:01 > >> To: Thomas Willig > >> Cc: Healey List > >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] First start > >> > >> Huston We've got problem. Start delayed. I have found some water coming > >> from > >> the head gasket area. I have used a non-original cylinder head gasket to > >> raise compression. It looks like that it was not a good idea. > >> > >> Gergo who is not happy. > >> > >> 2011/6/28 Thomas Willig > >> > >> > I encountered the same problem when I started my BN2 after 30+ years > of > >> > slumber. I even had a "professionally" rebuild starter motor. Then I > >> found > >> > out that my starter was, also looking like the original thing from the > >> > outside, not the right unit for my car. The starter came from a > Triumph > >> (2 > >> > Liter Engine). My advice therefore: Check the number on your starter > and > >> > make sure it is the correct type for you car. > >> > > >> > Before you respond that all starters are the same etc. etc. NO, they > >> > are > >> > not! They might be identical from the visual appearance, the internal > >> parts > >> > are different. The different Lucas part numbers for armatures and > field > >> > coils are used for good reasons. > >> > > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > > >> > Thomas Willig > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > >> > Von: Austin Healey [mailto:pajtamuvek at gmail.com] > >> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2011 09:20 > >> > An: Healey List > >> > Betreff: [Healeys] First start > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Nice day. I thought, why not starting my BN4 first time in 25years? > The > >> > answer came in quickly: the starter is not strong enough to move the > >> > engine. > >> > Is it a "normal issue" on rebuilt 6 cyl engines, or is my starter > dead? > >> > (Engine earth on, battery cable big enough (35q), battery 74A) > >> > > >> > Gergo > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rwil at sbcglobal.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 00:37:00 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:37:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> <336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Yahoo!@! Congratulations Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 28, 2011 11:34 PM, "Austin Healey" wrote: > Just a quick note: engine bursted into life on the very first attempt. > > Gergo > > 2011/6/29 Alan Seigrist > >> Gergo - >> >> Good choice. The standard copper gasket rarely if ever leaks on the 6 cyl. >> >> Alan >> >> On 6/29/11, Austin Healey wrote: >> > Thanks Roland, >> > >> > After lamenting a bit over the subject, I decided to replace the gasket. >> I >> > have lost my faith in this "custom" item. I think thge pressure is not >> > enough on this rather big area to make this type of material working. >> > I did the swap. No water leaks this time. I will try to relive the engine >> > tomorow. >> > >> > Gergo >> > >> > 2011/6/28 >> > >> >> Before you start tearing down your engine, remember that you will be >> >> torquing the head bolts/studs at least a couple of times in the early >> >> hours >> >> of your engine's operation. But if there is a leak now with essentially >> no >> >> pressure on the water flow I would suspect something major is permitting >> >> it. >> >> Perhaps some debris around the stud bases. Or, perish the thought, a >> crack >> >> in the head. >> >> >> >> -Roland >> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Austin Healey >> >> Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:47:01 >> >> To: Thomas Willig >> >> Cc: Healey List >> >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] First start >> >> >> >> Huston We've got problem. Start delayed. I have found some water coming >> >> from >> >> the head gasket area. I have used a non-original cylinder head gasket to >> >> raise compression. It looks like that it was not a good idea. >> >> >> >> Gergo who is not happy. >> >> >> >> 2011/6/28 Thomas Willig >> >> >> >> > I encountered the same problem when I started my BN2 after 30+ years >> of >> >> > slumber. I even had a "professionally" rebuild starter motor. Then I >> >> found >> >> > out that my starter was, also looking like the original thing from the >> >> > outside, not the right unit for my car. The starter came from a >> Triumph >> >> (2 >> >> > Liter Engine). My advice therefore: Check the number on your starter >> and >> >> > make sure it is the correct type for you car. >> >> > >> >> > Before you respond that all starters are the same etc. etc. NO, they >> >> > are >> >> > not! They might be identical from the visual appearance, the internal >> >> parts >> >> > are different. The different Lucas part numbers for armatures and >> field >> >> > coils are used for good reasons. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Regards >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Thomas Willig >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> >> > Von: Austin Healey [mailto:pajtamuvek at gmail.com] >> >> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2011 09:20 >> >> > An: Healey List >> >> > Betreff: [Healeys] First start >> >> > >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > Nice day. I thought, why not starting my BN4 first time in 25years? >> The >> >> > answer came in quickly: the starter is not strong enough to move the >> >> > engine. >> >> > Is it a "normal issue" on rebuilt 6 cyl engines, or is my starter >> dead? >> >> > (Engine earth on, battery cable big enough (35q), battery 74A) >> >> > >> >> > Gergo >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rwil at sbcglobal.net >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Jun 29 06:35:21 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:35:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> <336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <000d01cc3659$034ba4a0$09e2ede0$@net> Gergo, Excellent and congratulations! Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Austin Healey Sent: 2011-06-29 2:12 To: Alan Seigrist Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] First start Just a quick note: engine bursted into life on the very first attempt. Gergo 2011/6/29 Alan Seigrist > Gergo - > > Good choice. The standard copper gasket rarely if ever leaks on the 6 cyl. > > Alan > > On 6/29/11, Austin Healey wrote: > > Thanks Roland, > > > > After lamenting a bit over the subject, I decided to replace the gasket. > I > > have lost my faith in this "custom" item. I think thge pressure is not > > enough on this rather big area to make this type of material working. > > I did the swap. No water leaks this time. I will try to relive the engine > > tomorow. > > > > Gergo > > > > 2011/6/28 > > > >> Before you start tearing down your engine, remember that you will be > >> torquing the head bolts/studs at least a couple of times in the early > >> hours > >> of your engine's operation. But if there is a leak now with essentially > no > >> pressure on the water flow I would suspect something major is permitting > >> it. > >> Perhaps some debris around the stud bases. Or, perish the thought, a > crack > >> in the head. > >> > >> -Roland > >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Austin Healey > >> Sender: healeys-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:47:01 > >> To: Thomas Willig > >> Cc: Healey List > >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] First start > >> > >> Huston We've got problem. Start delayed. I have found some water coming > >> from > >> the head gasket area. I have used a non-original cylinder head gasket to > >> raise compression. It looks like that it was not a good idea. > >> > >> Gergo who is not happy. > >> > >> 2011/6/28 Thomas Willig > >> > >> > I encountered the same problem when I started my BN2 after 30+ years > of > >> > slumber. I even had a "professionally" rebuild starter motor. Then I > >> found > >> > out that my starter was, also looking like the original thing from the > >> > outside, not the right unit for my car. The starter came from a > Triumph > >> (2 > >> > Liter Engine). My advice therefore: Check the number on your starter > and > >> > make sure it is the correct type for you car. > >> > > >> > Before you respond that all starters are the same etc. etc. NO, they > >> > are > >> > not! They might be identical from the visual appearance, the internal > >> parts > >> > are different. The different Lucas part numbers for armatures and > field > >> > coils are used for good reasons. > >> > > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > > >> > Thomas Willig > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > >> > Von: Austin Healey [mailto:pajtamuvek at gmail.com] > >> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2011 09:20 > >> > An: Healey List > >> > Betreff: [Healeys] First start > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Nice day. I thought, why not starting my BN4 first time in 25years? > The > >> > answer came in quickly: the starter is not strong enough to move the > >> > engine. > >> > Is it a "normal issue" on rebuilt 6 cyl engines, or is my starter > dead? > >> > (Engine earth on, battery cable big enough (35q), battery 74A) > >> > > >> > Gergo > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rwil at sbcglobal.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Jun 29 06:41:04 2011 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:41:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local><336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Gergo, Congratulations, nothing like the feeling of the first start up on your rebuilt motor, the concern about any problems before you start it followed by (hopefully) a very good and satisfied feeling after it starts and runs and makes the right noises. "Grego" Lemon From frogeye at porterscustom.com Wed Jun 29 06:46:04 2011 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 06:46:04 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] WTB: 3'' Lucas Message-ID: <814E64D4172F4607828D1E07372BF220@oscar> Just slightly off topic.. I am looking to buy for myself a Lucas made bicycle bell. Yes, I know they are on eBay, but the bicycle group are perhaps even more Ah. aggressive in their valuations. Lucas made a ton of them, some polished brass, some chrome.. I'll go as high as ~ $40 for a working bell. Pleas respond off list. Thanks! dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world From Healey100M at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 08:17:14 2011 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:17:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 1960 Austin Healey X230 Message-ID: Is this the same that was for sale in Europe a couple years ago? http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/28/abingdon-prototype-1960-austin-healey-x23 0/ Randy From m.brouillette at comcast.net Wed Jun 29 08:51:26 2011 From: m.brouillette at comcast.net (m.brouillette at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 1960 Austin Healey X230 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <466592537.14386.1309359086649.JavaMail.root@sz0097a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I know it's a rarity in the Healey world, but when I do a first glance of the front lights, I get Checker cab... Mike Brouillette 59 BT7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Hicks" To: "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:17:14 AM Subject: [Healeys] 1960 Austin Healey X230 Is this the same that was for sale in Europe a couple years ago? http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/28/abingdon-prototype-1960-austin-healey-x230/ Randy From pete_groh at yahoo.com Wed Jun 29 09:25:03 2011 From: pete_groh at yahoo.com (Pete Groh) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Suggestion; - BT7 door handles Message-ID: <1309361103.28348.YahooMailClassic@web111606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Ira, I can send you the correct key for the handle to remove the lock insert. I can also advise you on re-keying the locks, and the sequence of the wafers/pins. The FP series lock number range 626-750. If you can not locate the three digit number on the lock, I do have a ring of pre-cut keys that you can insert into each lock, determine the key code number. Kind regards, Pete Groh (KeyGuy) Ellicott City MD "I have a number of them, and need to mix and match the best parts to build two outside handles. So how do I get the pins out without hosing the parts?" -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 09:38:06 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:38:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Suggestion; - BT7 door handles In-Reply-To: <1309361103.28348.YahooMailClassic@web111606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1309361103.28348.YahooMailClassic@web111606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks, I have the later non key handles. I was loiking for advice on dismanteling them. Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 29, 2011 8:25 AM, "Pete Groh" wrote: > Ira, I can send you the correct key for the handle to remove the lock insert. I can also advise you on re-keying the locks, and the sequence of the wafers/pins. The FP series lock number range 626-750. If you can not locate the three digit number on the lock, I do have a ring of pre-cut keys that you can insert into each lock, determine the key code number. > > Kind regards, > Pete Groh (KeyGuy) Ellicott City MD > > "I have a number of them, and need to mix and match the > best parts to build two outside handles. > > So how do I get the pins out without hosing the parts?" > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Wed Jun 29 09:41:37 2011 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:41:37 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 1960 Austin Healey X230 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Randy, It is the same car. Think they could not sell it in Europe. Now they try in the US with a silly price tag. Be careful with that car. There are a lot of doubts that its genuine. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Randy Hicks Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2011 16:17 An: Healey List Betreff: [Healeys] 1960 Austin Healey X230 Is this the same that was for sale in Europe a couple years ago? http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/28/abingdon-prototype-1960-austin-healey-x23 0/ Randy _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/josef.eckert at t-systems.com From barrie at look.ca Wed Jun 29 09:07:36 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:07:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 door handles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Please tell me too - I have handles off my current project and zi want to re-chrome them. At 11:42 PM 6/28/2011, I Erbs wrote: >I read > >Richard Bittmann great description in the archives on whatg to look >out for when rebuilding door handles, but I found no info on how to >take them apart without >breaking them. I have a number of them, and need to mix and match the >best parts to build two outside handles. > >So how do I get the pins out without hosing the parts? > > >-- >Ira Erbs >IT CONSULTANT >Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of >thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca (705) 721-9060 From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 09:47:23 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:47:23 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 1960 Austin Healey X230 In-Reply-To: <466592537.14386.1309359086649.JavaMail.root@sz0097a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <466592537.14386.1309359086649.JavaMail.root@sz0097a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Yes Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 29, 2011 8:22 AM, wrote: > I know it's a rarity in the Healey world, but when I do a first glance of the front lights, I get Checker cab... > > Mike Brouillette > 59 BT7 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Hicks" > To: "Healey List" > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:17:14 AM > Subject: [Healeys] 1960 Austin Healey X230 > > Is this the same that was for sale in Europe a couple years ago? > > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/28/abingdon-prototype-1960-austin-healey-x230/ > > Randy > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 09:51:53 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:51:53 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> <336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Thanks everybody for the knd words! I did my first Healey-miles today. Tha car is running well soo far. A little oil from the valve cover gasket and the oil filter case, but no horror. After a few joyfull miles came the rain and stopped the fun. Such is life. I have some questions though. When shall I retorque the head? I have started to adjust the carbs with a WBO. Starange, but the car is not realy willing to run on afr 1.47. For proper smooth running it needs slightly rich mixture of about afr 12.5-13.5. Is it normal? If I weaken the mixture it begings to run rough. I measure the afr at each downpipe just below the manifold. The timing has little impact on it. Gergo PS: Healey forever. From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 10:01:40 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:01:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 1960 Austin Healey X230 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Interesting side note. I received a beautiful coffee table book on the 100 anniversary of the auto. Of course the first thing I did was look at what they had to say about Healeys. I was surprised to see this car pictured as an example of our beautiful marque. I wrote the publisher, but never got a reply..... On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: > Is this the same that was for sale in Europe a couple years ago? > > > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/28/abingdon-prototype-1960-austin-healey-x23 > 0/ > > Randy > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 10:04:44 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:04:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 door handles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Barrie, I found the following info in the Archives.... Charlie, I found the perfect material for the window and door handle pins. At Lowe's I bought 4 - 1 1/4" straight brass angle hooks like cup hooks only straight. The diameter is perfect for the pins. I cut off the section in the middle between the screw end and the angled end. They worked perfectly. Richard Bittmann BJ7 Tacoma As someone wisely stated earlier when assembling the door handles "the springs go in before any of the bearings, pins or rivets - don't ask me how I know this". Actually you want to install the spring first, then the rivet holding the actuating lever to the handle, then the tubular bearing. The handle stopping pin goes in last. A trick I learned while assembling my newly plated door handles was to not to initially try to get the spring in it's final position - under tension over the backplate - but with the spring's u-shaped end between the backplate and the handle. After all the rivets, pins and bearings are in place attach a twist-tie wire around the end of the spring and through the opening in the back-plate - then with the handle in the full open position use a pair of pliers on the twist-tie to pull the spring's U end through the back-plate opening and with the spring fully tensioned, pull the back-plate back into the closed position, trapping the u-shaped end of the spring in it's final position behind both handle and back-plate. I spent a good deal of time trying to do this the "logical" way but there were too many pieces and too many forces at work. The way I arrived at is a "walk in the park"! On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Barrie Robinson wrote: > > Please tell me too - I have handles off my current project and zi want to > re-chrome them. > > > > > At 11:42 PM 6/28/2011, I Erbs wrote: > >> I read >> >> Richard Bittmann great description in the archives on whatg to look >> out for when rebuilding door handles, but I found no info on how to >> take them apart without >> breaking them. I have a number of them, and need to mix and match the >> best parts to build two outside handles. >> >> So how do I get the pins out without hosing the parts? >> >> >> -- >> Ira Erbs >> IT CONSULTANT >> Portland, OR >> >> We can't solve problems by using the same kind of >> thinking we used when we created them. >> -Albert Einstein >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/healeys/barrie at look.ca >> > > Regards > > Barrie > barrie at look.ca > (705) 721-9060 > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From Paull at glasgows.co.uk Wed Jun 29 10:19:42 2011 From: Paull at glasgows.co.uk (Paul Leeks) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:19:42 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] First start Message-ID: <86ACBC8750277041A4115960B570CD06FAD337@glamail.glasgowsnet.co.uk> Brilliant news, Gergo! I had a similar experience a couple of years ago after a 'blown piston' rebuild - the beer didn't half taste good that night! Paul BN4 100/6 << Just a quick note: engine bursted into life on the very first attempt. Gergo 2011/6/29 Alan Seigrist healey.nut at gmail.com From nelson_wd at msn.com Wed Jun 29 10:27:24 2011 From: nelson_wd at msn.com (W.D. Nelson) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:27:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 door handles In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I used a drift and had no issue removing the pins holding the levers that actuate the door stop. I had to replace the short levers that are used, I believe, on the BT7 with the longer lever used on my older 3000 BN 7. I do fear that I weakened the spring in this excercise but intend to correct that with new springs prior to final installation. > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:07:36 -0400 > To: eyera3 at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net > From: barrie at look.ca > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 door handles > > Please tell me too - I have handles off my current project and zi > want to re-chrome them. > > > > At 11:42 PM 6/28/2011, I Erbs wrote: > >I read > > > >Richard Bittmann great description in the archives on whatg to look > >out for when rebuilding door handles, but I found no info on how to > >take them apart without > >breaking them. I have a number of them, and need to mix and match the > >best parts to build two outside handles. > > > >So how do I get the pins out without hosing the parts? > > > > > >-- > >Ira Erbs > >IT CONSULTANT > >Portland, OR > > > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > >thinking we used when we created them. > > -Albert Einstein > >_______________________________________________ > >Healeys at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca > > Regards > > Barrie > barrie at look.ca > (705) 721-9060 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/nelson_wd at msn.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 10:30:09 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:30:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 door handles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a new spring. I bought a handle off ebay and it has the short lever, I need the longer one. Was thinking of just welding on an extension, and avoid the whole hassle.... On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:27 AM, W.D. Nelson wrote: > I used a drift and had no issue removing the pins holding the levers that > actuate the door stop. I had to replace the short levers that are used, I > believe, on the BT7 with the longer lever used on my older 3000 BN 7. I do > fear that I weakened the spring in this excercise but intend to correct that > with new springs prior to final installation. > > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:07:36 -0400 > > To: eyera3 at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net > > From: barrie at look.ca > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 door handles > > > > > Please tell me too - I have handles off my current project and zi > > want to re-chrome them. > > > > > > > > At 11:42 PM 6/28/2011, I Erbs wrote: > > >I read > > > > > >Richard Bittmann great description in the archives on whatg to look > > >out for when rebuilding door handles, but I found no info on how to > > >take them apart without > > >breaking them. I have a number of them, and need to mix and match the > > >best parts to build two outside handles. > > > > > >So how do I get the pins out without hosing the parts? > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Ira Erbs > > >IT CONSULTANT > > >Portland, OR > > > > > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > > >thinking we used when we created them. > > > -Albert Einstein > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Healeys at autox.team.net > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > >Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca > > > > Regards > > > > Barrie > > barrie at look.ca > > (705) 721-9060 > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/nelson_wd at msn.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein From Editorgary at aol.com Wed Jun 29 11:02:54 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:02:54 EDT Subject: [Healeys] It's Alive! Message-ID: <414e7.c21428f.3b3cb4be@aol.com> In a message dated 6/29/11 9:04:34 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Just a quick note: engine bursted into life on the very first attempt. > > Gergo > Congratulations. Bet that was a terrific feeling! G. From Editorgary at aol.com Wed Jun 29 11:06:40 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:06:40 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Checker Cab Healey Message-ID: <417a5.47ca7a01.3b3cb5a0@aol.com> In a message dated 6/29/11 9:04:34 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Betreff: [Healeys] 1960 Austin Healey X230 > > Is this the same that was for sale in Europe a couple years ago? > > Randy, > It is the same car. Think they could not sell it in Europe. Now they try > in > the US with a silly price tag. > Be careful with that car. There are a lot of doubts that its genuine. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > That Healey has been kicking around the "collector car" market for so long, real or not, it's acquired its own peculiar provenance. ("This car is so old, even Donald Healey didn't believe it when he first saw it.") Must be worth something just for that. G. From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Jun 29 11:26:29 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:26:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 door handles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601cc3681$ae9b5bc0$0bd21340$@net> Barry, Ira is talking about the flat pull style door handle on a 3000 roadster. What style of door handles do you have and on what car? Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barrie Robinson Sent: 2011-06-29 11:08 To: I Erbs; Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 door handles Please tell me too - I have handles off my current project and zi want to re-chrome them. At 11:42 PM 6/28/2011, I Erbs wrote: >I read > >Richard Bittmann great description in the archives on whatg to look >out for when rebuilding door handles, but I found no info on how to >take them apart without >breaking them. I have a number of them, and need to mix and match the >best parts to build two outside handles. > >So how do I get the pins out without hosing the parts? > > >-- >Ira Erbs >IT CONSULTANT >Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of >thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca (705) 721-9060 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Jun 29 11:47:52 2011 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich Chrysler) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:47:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Checker Cab Healey In-Reply-To: <417a5.47ca7a01.3b3cb5a0@aol.com> References: <417a5.47ca7a01.3b3cb5a0@aol.com> Message-ID: <000701cc3684$abcccb10$03666130$@net> Yes, but ugly is ugly and I couldn't give it garage space. No wonder they used it simply as an engineering exercise and then sent it on its way. It's very much the same scenario as Warwick built BN3/4 we pulled out of a field in Southern Ontario back in the mid '80's. A whole collection of engineering ideas were being tried out including frame spacing of 21" rather than the stock 17", longer wheel base, quarter elliptic rear springs for the C series rear axle, 6 cylinder engine with gallery head, custom aluminum radiator with header tank tapered down to fit forward under the stock 4 cylinder style front shroud, hydraulic master cylinders rigged on a crude fabricated weldment bracket in the engine bay so the pedal brackets could hang down, central fuel filler over the rear axle, elongated rear fenders to reach forward to the BN1 style early doors. It was very homely as can be seen in Bill Emerson's book. It just wasn't meant to be seen by the public according to Geoff Healey at the time we found it. When told about it he groaned in a rather disgusted tone, "Oh, it's turned up, has it? Wasn't meant to be". Rich -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: 2011-06-29 1:07 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Checker Cab Healey In a message dated 6/29/11 9:04:34 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Betreff: [Healeys] 1960 Austin Healey X230 > > Is this the same that was for sale in Europe a couple years ago? > > Randy, > It is the same car. Think they could not sell it in Europe. Now they try > in > the US with a silly price tag. > Be careful with that car. There are a lot of doubts that its genuine. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > That Healey has been kicking around the "collector car" market for so long, real or not, it's acquired its own peculiar provenance. ("This car is so old, even Donald Healey didn't believe it when he first saw it.") Must be worth something just for that. G. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Jun 29 11:52:26 2011 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:52:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sunoco Poster Message-ID: <004201cc3685$4ee7dbf0$ecb793d0$@verizon.net> Today I received a Sunoco Poster that I noted a week or so ago. It measures 23 1/4 by 42 and is printed on a thin sheet of plastic rather than heavy paper. Rather durable. I will be reaching out to Sunoco again tomorrow to see what is happening with their promise to check into the feasibility of having these available for Healeyites. I have about 25 requests for the poster. Do not know at this time if it can be done or what the cost, if any, will be. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 12:23:27 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 02:23:27 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Checker Cab Healey In-Reply-To: <000701cc3684$abcccb10$03666130$@net> References: <417a5.47ca7a01.3b3cb5a0@aol.com> <000701cc3684$abcccb10$03666130$@net> Message-ID: Some nutter in the UK is restoring that abomonation. On 6/30/11, Rich Chrysler wrote: > Yes, but ugly is ugly and I couldn't give it garage space. No wonder they > used it simply as an engineering exercise and then sent it on its way. > > It's very much the same scenario as Warwick built BN3/4 we pulled out of a > field in Southern Ontario back in the mid '80's. A whole collection of > engineering ideas were being tried out including frame spacing of 21" rather > than the stock 17", longer wheel base, quarter elliptic rear springs for the > C series rear axle, 6 cylinder engine with gallery head, custom aluminum > radiator with header tank tapered down to fit forward under the stock 4 > cylinder style front shroud, hydraulic master cylinders rigged on a crude > fabricated weldment bracket in the engine bay so the pedal brackets could > hang down, central fuel filler over the rear axle, elongated rear fenders to > reach forward to the BN1 style early doors. It was very homely as can be > seen in Bill Emerson's book. > > It just wasn't meant to be seen by the public according to Geoff Healey at > the time we found it. When told about it he groaned in a rather disgusted > tone, "Oh, it's turned up, has it? Wasn't meant to be". > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com > Sent: 2011-06-29 1:07 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Checker Cab Healey > > In a message dated 6/29/11 9:04:34 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > >> Betreff: [Healeys] 1960 Austin Healey X230 >> >> Is this the same that was for sale in Europe a couple years ago? >> > >> Randy, >> It is the same car. Think they could not sell it in Europe. Now they try >> in >> the US with a silly price tag. >> Be careful with that car. There are a lot of doubts that its genuine. >> >> Josef Eckert >> Konigswinter/Germany >> > That Healey has been kicking around the "collector car" market for so long, > real or not, it's acquired its own peculiar provenance. ("This car is so > old, even Donald Healey didn't believe it when he first saw it.") > > Must be worth something just for that. > > G. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jun 29 11:36:27 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:36:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] [Spridgets] Expensive Headlights In-Reply-To: <1309362325.47571.YahooMailRC@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1309362325.47571.YahooMailRC@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E0B629B.8080305@justbrits.com> *<< For $225K, I would expect that this car is dead original.* http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/28/abingdon-prototype-1960-austin-healey-x230/ *jay f*. >> The Lads & Lassies would like to be educated about above car, folks. !! Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From dan at warner-associates.com Wed Jun 29 13:50:56 2011 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:50:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Colorado Springs Conclave In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <612D48DEB549409A8CC4853C6E221894@DANSTROM> David: Does that sound like an adventurous trip. I will bet the Ontario group will have some stories to tell. Cannot go this year but will try to go next year. I was recruited and played hockey at the Air Force Academy umpteen years ago and have not been back in many years. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:44 PM To: jerry wall Cc: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Colorado Springs Conclave We will be heading out on Friday also taking 2 1/2 days almost 1300 miles. Taking HWY 50 should be a fun trip. We are planning overnight stops at Austin Nevada Friday night and Green River Utah on Saturday night. Then it s up Glenwood Canyon thru Vail and Breckenridge, then south around Pikes Peak to Colorado Springs. Hopefully the weather cooperates. Its raining here in Sunny California in the end of June its only been about 20 years since that happened. Global Warming See you all there David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:18 PM, jerry wall wrote: > only a couple of days left. my son and I will be leaving fir am > and will > break the approx 750 mile trip into two days. we anticipate > arriving at the > Crowned Plaza sat pm. we'll be going through Amarillo, Tx where > they saw a > record 113F. several days ago. steady 100's are predicted for the > week-end. Sure glad the BN6 has a/c with the hardtop. > cheers, > > -- > jerry wall BN6 > rowlett, tx > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dan at warner-associates.com From dan at warner-associates.com Wed Jun 29 13:55:36 2011 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:55:36 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] It's Alive! In-Reply-To: <414e7.c21428f.3b3cb4be@aol.com> References: <414e7.c21428f.3b3cb4be@aol.com> Message-ID: Congratulations Gergo. Fun. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 12:03 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's Alive! In a message dated 6/29/11 9:04:34 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Just a quick note: engine bursted into life on the very first attempt. > > Gergo > Congratulations. Bet that was a terrific feeling! G. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dan at warner-associates.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 14:16:13 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:16:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 door handles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Clarification. I am talking about. BT7 exterior handels, not the later keyed BJ8 or the forward remote, interior ones. Thanks to all for comments Ira Erbs IT Consultant Portland, OR sent from my Droid, please excuse typos and random self corrections because my phone has It's own ideas about what word I meant to write On Jun 29, 2011 9:30 AM, "I Erbs" wrote: > I have a new spring. I bought a handle off ebay and it has the short lever, > I need the longer one. Was thinking of just welding on an extension, and > avoid the whole hassle.... > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:27 AM, W.D. Nelson wrote: > >> I used a drift and had no issue removing the pins holding the levers that >> actuate the door stop. I had to replace the short levers that are used, I >> believe, on the BT7 with the longer lever used on my older 3000 BN 7. I do >> fear that I weakened the spring in this excercise but intend to correct that >> with new springs prior to final installation. >> > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:07:36 -0400 >> > To: eyera3 at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net >> > From: barrie at look.ca >> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 door handles >> >> > >> > Please tell me too - I have handles off my current project and zi >> > want to re-chrome them. >> > >> > >> > >> > At 11:42 PM 6/28/2011, I Erbs wrote: >> > >I read >> > > >> > >Richard Bittmann great description in the archives on whatg to look >> > >out for when rebuilding door handles, but I found no info on how to >> > >take them apart without >> > >breaking them. I have a number of them, and need to mix and match the >> > >best parts to build two outside handles. >> > > >> > >So how do I get the pins out without hosing the parts? >> > > >> > > >> > >-- >> > >Ira Erbs >> > >IT CONSULTANT >> > >Portland, OR >> > > >> > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of >> > >thinking we used when we created them. >> > > -Albert Einstein >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >Healeys at autox.team.net >> > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > >Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/barrie at look.ca >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Barrie >> > barrie at look.ca >> > (705) 721-9060 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/nelson_wd at msn.com >> > > > > -- > Ira Erbs > IT CONSULTANT > Portland, OR > > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we created them. > -Albert Einstein From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 14:48:37 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 04:48:37 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> <336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Gergo - The trick is the exhaust should not have a "smell" and should not show smoke. If it smells rich or shows smoke, the mixture is off. Check timing and make sure advance weights are operating and vacuum advance lines are hooked up and operating. Let is know how it is going. Alan On 6/29/11, Austin Healey wrote: > Thanks everybody for the knd words! > I did my first Healey-miles today. Tha car is running well soo far. A little > oil from the valve cover gasket and the oil filter case, but no horror. > After a few joyfull miles came the rain and stopped the fun. Such is life. > I have some questions though. When shall I retorque the head? > I have started to adjust the carbs with a WBO. Starange, but the car is not > realy willing to run on afr 1.47. For proper smooth running it needs > slightly rich mixture of about afr 12.5-13.5. Is it normal? If I weaken the > mixture it begings to run rough. I measure the afr at each downpipe just > below the manifold. The timing has little impact on it. > > Gergo > > PS: Healey forever. > -- Sent from my mobile device From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 14:51:08 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:51:08 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] [...H...ealeys] First start In-Reply-To: <4E0B79BE.4050502@justbrits.com> References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> <336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> <4E0B79BE.4050502@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Hi, Thanks again everybody. The day was fine. Rain stoped, and I fired up the Healey again and did a few more miles. Here's my experiences. First of all I was completely wrong about Healeys. I expected a grand turismo and not a sportscar realy. A thing that is completely wrong! The suspension is firm and stabile. For from the soft, conform ride I expected. The engine, which I hough would behave like a big puller with flat torque cure is rather willing, and has a nice but sharp power delivery. The cam is getting on around 2.5-3k, and from that point it is pulling very hard. No "oldcar" feeling at all. Closer to a hot kitcar than a grandturismo. Very exciting, and also surprizing - at least for me. Though I used a "fastroad" cam (you may remember I rebuilt a 26H engine with a "factory" sporty camshaft 265degrees on each valves). My exhaust is a side exit custom. Maybe a bit loud, but if the car is reved, the sound is realy impressive. More like a period racecar than a sporty gt. Intresting thing realy. I must be carefull as it is soo tempting to push. I cant wait tomorow. I will play around tha carbs and the ignition curve just to see what else can be done. Thanks again for You kind words! Gergo From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 14:56:32 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:56:32 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> <336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Hi Alan, Thanks! The exhaust is clean. Also checked the plugs, they are clean and not dark. The engines does not hesitates on acceleration, but has some roughness below 2.5 if the throttle is held in position going on flat ground. Especial can feel it is decelerating. Not that bad, but still present. The carb is very sensitive on the mixture adjustment. As small as 1/4 turn can make difference in reading and feel. Not something I am used to on mini engines. I have bought a set of different advance springs. Though the advance is working (each), I will experiment with the different springs tomorow. Gergo 2011/6/29 Alan Seigrist > Gergo - > > The trick is the exhaust should not have a "smell" and should not show > smoke. If it smells rich or shows smoke, the mixture is off. Check > timing and make sure advance weights are operating and vacuum advance > lines are hooked up and operating. > > Let is know how it is going. > > Alan > > > On 6/29/11, Austin Healey wrote: > > Thanks everybody for the knd words! > > I did my first Healey-miles today. Tha car is running well soo far. A > little > > oil from the valve cover gasket and the oil filter case, but no horror. > > After a few joyfull miles came the rain and stopped the fun. Such is > life. > > I have some questions though. When shall I retorque the head? > > I have started to adjust the carbs with a WBO. Starange, but the car is > not > > realy willing to run on afr 1.47. For proper smooth running it needs > > slightly rich mixture of about afr 12.5-13.5. Is it normal? If I weaken > the > > mixture it begings to run rough. I measure the afr at each downpipe just > > below the manifold. The timing has little impact on it. > > > > Gergo > > > > PS: Healey forever. > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 14:59:05 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:59:05 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> <336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Thanks Andrea, Though I am nowhere from Your profession, trying my best. If I did not told You before, I would like to tell You now, that Your pictures You shred me on Picasa are a leadinf light in my assembly darkness! Realy-realy helpfull. Many thanks!!! Gergo From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Wed Jun 29 15:48:18 2011 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:48:18 EDT Subject: [Healeys] [...H...ealeys] First start Message-ID: <29fd.1d892928.3b3cf7a2@aol.com> Thanks for the update, sounds very exciting! Congratulations and have fun! But I'm sure I really don't have to tell you that and I bet you have one great smile on your face right now to boot! Enjoy! Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 6/29/2011 2:24:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pajtamuvek at gmail.com writes: Hi, Thanks again everybody. The day was fine. Rain stoped, and I fired up the Healey again and did a few more miles. Here's my experiences. First of all I was completely wrong about Healeys. I expected a grand turismo and not a sportscar realy. A thing that is completely wrong! The suspension is firm and stabile. For from the soft, conform ride I expected. The engine, which I hough would behave like a big puller with flat torque cure is rather willing, and has a nice but sharp power delivery. The cam is getting on around 2.5-3k, and from that point it is pulling very hard. No "oldcar" feeling at all. Closer to a hot kitcar than a grandturismo. Very exciting, and also surprizing - at least for me. Though I used a "fastroad" cam (you may remember I rebuilt a 26H engine with a "factory" sporty camshaft 265degrees on each valves). My exhaust is a side exit custom. Maybe a bit loud, but if the car is reved, the sound is realy impressive. More like a period racecar than a sporty gt. Intresting thing realy. I must be carefull as it is soo tempting to push. I cant wait tomorow. I will play around tha carbs and the ignition curve just to see what else can be done. Thanks again for You kind words! Gergo _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/atightprod at aol.com From rbender1 at berkshire.rr.com Wed Jun 29 17:38:34 2011 From: rbender1 at berkshire.rr.com (Robert Bender) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:38:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system Message-ID: <000001cc36b5$a9ab5460$fd01fd20$@rr.com> Ever since my friend lost a wheel cylinder under heavy braking in traffic with his vintage Land Rover and had to do some tricky unplanned off road driving to avoid playing Bigfoot on the cars ahead, I've been pondering the idea of a dual circuit braking system in my BN2. I searched the archives and cannot find much of anything for information on this project. I realize the Denis Welch and Cape International sell units, but they are pretty dear. I was wondering if anyone else had looked into a good candidate master cylinder from a local parts house like NAPA or AutoZone? How does one determine what size master cylinder bore to look for? There must be some calculation between the Master cylinder and the wheel cylinder bore sizes. I plan to use the original drum brakes (at least for now), I want to keep the MC location on the frame rail, and I don't want to use a booster. Has anyone given this any thought? Oh, by the way, the wheel cylinder that failed on the Rover was nearly new. It was not a Girling but rather one of the newer knock-offs. TIA for any input. From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Wed Jun 29 19:57:55 2011 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:57:55 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system In-Reply-To: <000001cc36b5$a9ab5460$fd01fd20$@rr.com> References: <000001cc36b5$a9ab5460$fd01fd20$@rr.com> Message-ID: G'day Robert I've used a Datsun 240Z master cylinder on my V6 BN1. It's mounted in the original position on the frame rail. I do have discs on the front but the balance seems fine (car's been on the road for 18 months) Only issue was making a bracket to mount the unit to the original bolt holes. I can send some photos if you're interested. Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz BN1 Ward Spl coupe BN1 Holden V6 PS I had a similar experience with my Series 3 Landrover when a brake lining parted company with the shoe! -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bender Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:38 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system Ever since my friend lost a wheel cylinder under heavy braking in traffic with his vintage Land Rover and had to do some tricky unplanned off road driving to avoid playing Bigfoot on the cars ahead, I've been pondering the idea of a dual circuit braking system in my BN2. I searched the archives and cannot find much of anything for information on this project. I realize the Denis Welch and Cape International sell units, but they are pretty dear. I was wondering if anyone else had looked into a good candidate master cylinder from a local parts house like NAPA or AutoZone? How does one determine what size master cylinder bore to look for? There must be some calculation between the Master cylinder and the wheel cylinder bore sizes. I plan to use the original drum brakes (at least for now), I want to keep the MC location on the frame rail, and I don't want to use a booster. Has anyone given this any thought? Oh, by the way, the wheel cylinder that failed on the Rover was nearly new. It was not a Girling but rather one of the newer knock-offs. TIA for any input. _______________________________________________ From frogeye at porterscustom.com Wed Jun 29 20:26:54 2011 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:26:54 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system In-Reply-To: References: <000001cc36b5$a9ab5460$fd01fd20$@rr.com> Message-ID: I've used similar unit with a booster on Healey's and Jag's....... Easy to find units and replacement parts. Sorry no pixs available though. dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter & Veronica Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:58 PM To: Robert Bender; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system G'day Robert I've used a Datsun 240Z master cylinder on my V6 BN1. It's mounted in the original position on the frame rail. I do have discs on the front but the balance seems fine (car's been on the road for 18 months) Only issue was making a bracket to mount the unit to the original bolt holes. I can send some photos if you're interested. Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz BN1 Ward Spl coupe BN1 Holden V6 PS I had a similar experience with my Series 3 Landrover when a brake lining parted company with the shoe! -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bender Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:38 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system Ever since my friend lost a wheel cylinder under heavy braking in traffic with his vintage Land Rover and had to do some tricky unplanned off road driving to avoid playing Bigfoot on the cars ahead, I've been pondering the idea of a dual circuit braking system in my BN2. I searched the archives and cannot find much of anything for information on this project. I realize the Denis Welch and Cape International sell units, but they are pretty dear. I was wondering if anyone else had looked into a good candidate master cylinder from a local parts house like NAPA or AutoZone? How does one determine what size master cylinder bore to look for? There must be some calculation between the Master cylinder and the wheel cylinder bore sizes. I plan to use the original drum brakes (at least for now), I want to keep the MC location on the frame rail, and I don't want to use a booster. Has anyone given this any thought? Oh, by the way, the wheel cylinder that failed on the Rover was nearly new. It was not a Girling but rather one of the newer knock-offs. TIA for any input. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Wed Jun 29 20:41:53 2011 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:41:53 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system In-Reply-To: References: <000001cc36b5$a9ab5460$fd01fd20$@rr.com> Message-ID: <77EEB5D371EC4FC5B2941F39DA4C0683@Notebook> I should have added that I also use a booster on the front only Peter -----Original Message----- From: Dave Porter Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:26 PM To: 'Peter & Veronica' ; 'Robert Bender' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system I've used similar unit with a booster on Healey's and Jag's....... Easy to find units and replacement parts. Sorry no pixs available though. dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter & Veronica Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:58 PM To: Robert Bender; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system G'day Robert I've used a Datsun 240Z master cylinder on my V6 BN1. It's mounted in the original position on the frame rail. I do have discs on the front but the balance seems fine (car's been on the road for 18 months) Only issue was making a bracket to mount the unit to the original bolt holes. I can send some photos if you're interested. Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz BN1 Ward Spl coupe BN1 Holden V6 PS I had a similar experience with my Series 3 Landrover when a brake lining parted company with the shoe! -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bender Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:38 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system Ever since my friend lost a wheel cylinder under heavy braking in traffic with his vintage Land Rover and had to do some tricky unplanned off road driving to avoid playing Bigfoot on the cars ahead, I've been pondering the idea of a dual circuit braking system in my BN2. I searched the archives and cannot find much of anything for information on this project. I realize the Denis Welch and Cape International sell units, but they are pretty dear. I was wondering if anyone else had looked into a good candidate master cylinder from a local parts house like NAPA or AutoZone? How does one determine what size master cylinder bore to look for? There must be some calculation between the Master cylinder and the wheel cylinder bore sizes. I plan to use the original drum brakes (at least for now), I want to keep the MC location on the frame rail, and I don't want to use a booster. Has anyone given this any thought? Oh, by the way, the wheel cylinder that failed on the Rover was nearly new. It was not a Girling but rather one of the newer knock-offs. TIA for any input. ... From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Jun 29 20:54:22 2011 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:54:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] [...H...ealeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local><336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry><4E0B79BE.4050502@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <61A475D465454FFC800B051AFBEBDAB8@GregPC> Gergo, reading your note about your first Healey driving experience brought a big smile to my face as well, yes, that is what it is all about, enjoy and keep us posted. Greg Lemon From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Wed Jun 29 21:46:44 2011 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 05:46:44 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] High definition HD Message-ID: <8C125DB8-96E9-4B12-BA4E-35C1F91EFC22@bornet.net> Hi everybody, I have just posted a "walk through" video of a MKI that has ben restored to a very high standard featuring full aluminium body, road/rally engine etc, but still retaining the stock look. For those of you that might be interested in watching it. You can find it on the following home page: http://www.concourshealeys.com/videos/ It is the video on top of the page. Magnus Karlsson www.concourshealeys.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 23:17:58 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:17:58 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] First start In-Reply-To: References: <4E9D161D2AF9984C94D841B0A0D5A1160E142E@dw01.ruda.local> <336593490-1309277829-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588419017-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: It sounds to me like you have a vacuum leak somewhere. Remind me, what model/year do you have? Alan On 6/30/11, Austin Healey wrote: > Hi Alan, > > Thanks! The exhaust is clean. Also checked the plugs, they are clean and not > dark. The engines does not hesitates on acceleration, but has some roughness > below 2.5 if the throttle is held in position going on flat ground. Especial > can feel it is decelerating. Not that bad, but still present. The carb is > very sensitive on the mixture adjustment. As small as 1/4 turn can make > difference in reading and feel. Not something I am used to on mini engines. > I have bought a set of different advance springs. Though the advance is > working (each), I will experiment with the different springs tomorow. > > Gergo > > 2011/6/29 Alan Seigrist > >> Gergo - >> >> The trick is the exhaust should not have a "smell" and should not show >> smoke. If it smells rich or shows smoke, the mixture is off. Check >> timing and make sure advance weights are operating and vacuum advance >> lines are hooked up and operating. >> >> Let is know how it is going. >> >> Alan >> >> >> On 6/29/11, Austin Healey wrote: >> > Thanks everybody for the knd words! >> > I did my first Healey-miles today. Tha car is running well soo far. A >> little >> > oil from the valve cover gasket and the oil filter case, but no horror. >> > After a few joyfull miles came the rain and stopped the fun. Such is >> life. >> > I have some questions though. When shall I retorque the head? >> > I have started to adjust the carbs with a WBO. Starange, but the car is >> not >> > realy willing to run on afr 1.47. For proper smooth running it needs >> > slightly rich mixture of about afr 12.5-13.5. Is it normal? If I weaken >> the >> > mixture it begings to run rough. I measure the afr at each downpipe just >> > below the manifold. The timing has little impact on it. >> > >> > Gergo >> > >> > PS: Healey forever. >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> > -- Sent from my mobile device From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 00:26:14 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 08:26:14 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system In-Reply-To: <77EEB5D371EC4FC5B2941F39DA4C0683@Notebook> References: <000001cc36b5$a9ab5460$fd01fd20$@rr.com> <77EEB5D371EC4FC5B2941F39DA4C0683@Notebook> Message-ID: Please dont tke me wrong. I dont want to seem negative. Just take my ideas as "thoughts". Playing with the brakes is not realy something that can be taken easy. Designing a full system needs to deal with many aspects (sizing of the cylinders, balance, fluid type, brake pipe lenght, pressure control etc). If I am asked, I would leave this task for thoose who have experience and education like Denis Welch. OR the factory itself. In my opinion any car which is used as intended would be safe enough with production brakes. Only thing is that they need to be in A1 condition. Again sorry if I am negative. Gergo 2011/6/30 Peter & Veronica > I should have added that I also use a booster on the front only > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- From: Dave Porter > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:26 PM > To: 'Peter & Veronica' ; 'Robert Bender' ; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system > > > I've used similar unit with a booster on Healey's and Jag's....... > Easy to find units and replacement parts. Sorry no pixs available though. > dave > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 > Porter Custom Bicycles > > cars: > www.britishcarforum.com/**portercustoms.html > gallery: > http://picasaweb.google.com/**porterscustombicycles/** > PorterCustomBicyclesStuff > > GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.** > team.net ] > On Behalf Of Peter & Veronica > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:58 PM > To: Robert Bender; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system > > G'day Robert > > I've used a Datsun 240Z master cylinder on my V6 BN1. It's mounted in the > original position on the frame rail. I do have discs on the front but the > balance seems fine (car's been on the road for 18 months) Only issue was > making a bracket to mount the unit to the original bolt holes. I can send > some photos if you're interested. > > Cheers > > Peter Linn > Brisbane Oz > BN1 Ward Spl coupe > BN1 Holden V6 > > PS I had a similar experience with my Series 3 Landrover when a brake > lining > > parted company with the shoe! > > -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bender > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:38 AM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system > > Ever since my friend lost a wheel cylinder under heavy braking in traffic > with his vintage Land Rover and had to do some tricky unplanned off road > driving to avoid playing > > Bigfoot on the cars ahead, I've been pondering the idea of a dual circuit > braking system in my BN2. I searched the archives and cannot find much of > anything for information > > on this project. I realize the Denis Welch and Cape International sell > units, but they are pretty dear. I was wondering if anyone else had looked > into a good candidate > > master cylinder from a local parts house like NAPA or AutoZone? How does > one determine what size master cylinder bore to look for? There must be > some calculation > > between the Master cylinder and the wheel cylinder bore sizes. I plan to > use the original drum brakes (at least for now), I want to keep the MC > location on the frame rail, and > > I don't want to use a booster. Has anyone given this any thought? > > Oh, by the way, the wheel cylinder that failed on the Rover was nearly new. > It was not a Girling but rather one of the newer knock-offs. > > TIA for any input. > ... ______________________________**_________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/pajtamuvek@**gmail.com From austin.healey at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 01:45:36 2011 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock [Healey]) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:45:36 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] 1960 Austin Healey X230 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There are some discussions at bringatrailer re getting the historical doco which was originally posted on the healeyclub.org site. I did a bit of digging around....... Those reference pages are still there, just someone has moved them into another directory. Happens all the time with websites.. You can still access all the documents from the directory here: http://www.healeyclub.org/images/magazine/X230web/ The Geoff Healey letter is here: http://www.healeyclub.org/images/magazine/X230web/Letter%20-%201983%20Feb%203 %20-%20Geoff%20Healey%20to%20David%20Matthews.jpg Hope that helps. Chris On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: > Is this the same that was for sale in Europe a couple years ago? > > > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/28/abingdon-prototype-1960-austin-healey-x23 > 0/ > > Randy From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Thu Jun 30 03:25:42 2011 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:25:42 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system In-Reply-To: References: <000001cc36b5$a9ab5460$fd01fd20$@rr.com><77EEB5D371EC4FC5B2941F39DA4C0683@Notebook> Message-ID: Gbday Gergo I had to put in dual circuit brakes in order to have the car complianced with the bigger engine. The 240Z master cylinder is 7/8b bore and seemed right for the disc front/drum rear set-up (booster on discs only) The car had to undergo quite rigorous brake testing in order to gain compliance for registration, including braking hard to a standstill from 100kmh. It passed with flying colours, as did my bengineeringb of the master cylinder mount. Regards Peter From: Austin Healey Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:26 PM To: Peter & Veronica Cc: Dave Porter ; Robert Bender ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system Please dont tke me wrong. I dont want to seem negative. Just take my ideas as "thoughts". Playing with the brakes is not realy something that can be taken easy. Designing a full system needs to deal with many aspects (sizing of the cylinders, balance, fluid type, brake pipe lenght, pressure control etc). If I am asked, I would leave this task for thoose who have experience and education like Denis Welch. OR the factory itself. In my opinion any car which is used as intended would be safe enough with production brakes. Only thing is that they need to be in A1 condition. Again sorry if I am negative. Gergo 2011/6/30 Peter & Veronica I should have added that I also use a booster on the front only Peter -----Original Message----- From: Dave Porter Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:26 PM To: 'Peter & Veronica' ; 'Robert Bender' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system I've used similar unit with a booster on Healey's and Jag's....... Easy to find units and replacement parts. Sorry no pixs available though. dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff GO HERE: http://porterbikes.com/ nice pictures-fun facts-my world -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter & Veronica Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:58 PM To: Robert Bender; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system G'day Robert I've used a Datsun 240Z master cylinder on my V6 BN1. It's mounted in the original position on the frame rail. I do have discs on the front but the balance seems fine (car's been on the road for 18 months) Only issue was making a bracket to mount the unit to the original bolt holes. I can send some photos if you're interested. Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz BN1 Ward Spl coupe BN1 Holden V6 PS I had a similar experience with my Series 3 Landrover when a brake lining parted company with the shoe! -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bender Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:38 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system Ever since my friend lost a wheel cylinder under heavy braking in traffic with his vintage Land Rover and had to do some tricky unplanned off road driving to avoid playing Bigfoot on the cars ahead, I've been pondering the idea of a dual circuit braking system in my BN2. I searched the archives and cannot find much of anything for information on this project. I realize the Denis Welch and Cape International sell units, but they are pretty dear. I was wondering if anyone else had looked into a good candidate master cylinder from a local parts house like NAPA or AutoZone? How does one determine what size master cylinder bore to look for? There must be some calculation between the Master cylinder and the wheel cylinder bore sizes. I plan to use the original drum brakes (at least for now), I want to keep the MC location on the frame rail, and I don't want to use a booster. Has anyone given this any thought? Oh, by the way, the wheel cylinder that failed on the Rover was nearly new. It was not a Girling but rather one of the newer knock-offs. TIA for any input. ... _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 05:23:36 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:23:36 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Core plug Message-ID: Hi Friends, I am after a 100 miles of pure fun. Unfortunatly the rain stoped the fun this time also. Even more miserably this time the sky was bright and the rain pured from my engine. Umho. After shuting the negine off I have found that one of my core plugs have gone. Since it is the 2.7 engine with the "doomed" type plugs, I had quite some bad feelings of theese plugs. Is there an "appropriate science" how to install them? I have applied some sealand and pundhed the center of the plugs until they became a bit "flat" on the center. Did I do it wrong? Other than that the car ran marvellous. I have found a working set of distributor springs, soo now the power curve is fine, the hesitation and vibration went away from the low-range. Only I found the vacuum advance a bit too much. I will decrease that and the car will be spot on. Gergo From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 06:07:16 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:07:16 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Circuit Braking system In-Reply-To: References: <000001cc36b5$a9ab5460$fd01fd20$@rr.com> <77EEB5D371EC4FC5B2941F39DA4C0683@Notebook> Message-ID: Please dont take me wrong. I belive that You knew what You were doing and the result is perfectly safe. Gergo From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 06:11:35 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:11:35 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Core plug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gergo - If you aren't showing the car, just get a rubber or copper bolt-expansion plug from your local auto supplier and bolt it in. Alan On 6/30/11, Austin Healey wrote: > Hi Friends, > > I am after a 100 miles of pure fun. Unfortunatly the rain stoped the fun > this time also. Even more miserably this time the sky was bright and the > rain pured from my engine. Umho. After shuting the negine off I have found > that one of my core plugs have gone. > Since it is the 2.7 engine with the "doomed" type plugs, I had quite some > bad feelings of theese plugs. Is there an "appropriate science" how to > install them? I have applied some sealand and pundhed the center of the > plugs until they became a bit "flat" on the center. Did I do it wrong? > Other than that the car ran marvellous. I have found a working set of > distributor springs, soo now the power curve is fine, the hesitation and > vibration went away from the low-range. Only I found the vacuum advance a > bit too much. I will decrease that and the car will be spot on. > > Gergo > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From fredwescoe at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 07:39:29 2011 From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:39:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Wire wheels Message-ID: Listers, I am in the market for new wire wheels. I am looking for four, 4 1/5" x 15 ", 60 spoke wheels for a BJ7. Anyone have four, in good shape, laying around they would like to sell? Or, does anyone have a good source for them? Please reply off line. Thanks, Fred From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Thu Jun 30 08:25:52 2011 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:25:52 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Shop manual for 1998 Chev Trucks Message-ID: <001b01cc3731$9df3fd80$d9dbf880$@qwest.net> I have replaced my tow vehicle and traded in my 1998 Tahoe, so I have no further use for the shop manuals. The set consists of 4 volumes. Genuine GM publications, covering all GM C/K trucks. This includes all pickup trucks, Tahoe, and Suburban. 4 volume set is 7 inches tall and weighs 20 lbs. FREE FOR SHIPPING Herb Miller From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 08:41:26 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:41:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Core plug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Typically. You want to use a socket to hit around the outside of the plug, not the center. Maybe domed top plugs are different I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jun 30, 2011, at 5:11 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Gergo - > > If you aren't showing the car, just get a rubber or copper > bolt-expansion plug from your local auto supplier and bolt it in. > > Alan > > On 6/30/11, Austin Healey wrote: >> Hi Friends, >> >> I am after a 100 miles of pure fun. Unfortunatly the rain stoped the fun >> this time also. Even more miserably this time the sky was bright and the >> rain pured from my engine. Umho. After shuting the negine off I have found >> that one of my core plugs have gone. >> Since it is the 2.7 engine with the "doomed" type plugs, I had quite some >> bad feelings of theese plugs. Is there an "appropriate science" how to >> install them? I have applied some sealand and pundhed the center of the >> plugs until they became a bit "flat" on the center. Did I do it wrong? >> Other than that the car ran marvellous. I have found a working set of >> distributor springs, soo now the power curve is fine, the hesitation and >> vibration went away from the low-range. Only I found the vacuum advance a >> bit too much. I will decrease that and the car will be spot on. >> >> Gergo >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 09:52:08 2011 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:52:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Core plug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Though I have had no problems with the domed plugs on either of my Healeys I have pooped several out of the MGA race engine in my Courier, esp. after when the engine was freshly redone. I have since gone to using the copper expansion-type plugs and set them in 5-minute JB Weld. I would not use the rubber expansion plugs for anything other than an emergency temporary repair. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:41 AM, I Erbs wrote: > Typically. You want to use a socket to hit around the outside of the plug, > not > the center. Maybe domed top plugs are different > > I Erbs > Sent from my iPod > > On Jun 30, 2011, at 5:11 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > > > Gergo - > > > > If you aren't showing the car, just get a rubber or copper > > bolt-expansion plug from your local auto supplier and bolt it in. > > > > Alan > > > > On 6/30/11, Austin Healey wrote: > >> Hi Friends, > >> > >> I am after a 100 miles of pure fun. Unfortunatly the rain stoped the fun > >> this time also. Even more miserably this time the sky was bright and the > >> rain pured from my engine. Umho. After shuting the negine off I have > found > >> that one of my core plugs have gone. > >> Since it is the 2.7 engine with the "doomed" type plugs, I had quite > some > >> bad feelings of theese plugs. Is there an "appropriate science" how to > >> install them? I have applied some sealand and pundhed the center of the > >> plugs until they became a bit "flat" on the center. Did I do it wrong? > >> Other than that the car ran marvellous. I have found a working set of > >> distributor springs, soo now the power curve is fine, the hesitation and > >> vibration went away from the low-range. Only I found the vacuum advance > a > >> bit too much. I will decrease that and the car will be spot on. > >> > >> Gergo > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > >> > > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com From healeyguy at bredband.net Thu Jun 30 11:27:35 2011 From: healeyguy at bredband.net (Per Schoerner) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:27:35 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Core plug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E0CB207.8000809@bredband.net> Hi Has happened to me too, on my newly restored Sprite engine. I thought I had hit the plug enough, but apparently not. Installed a new plug and gave it a couple of good smacks, and the others too, and they have held on ever since (7 years ago). Doomed plugs, you have to hit them in the centre so they expand in to hole. If you hit them correctly they will be impossible to remove without destroying I think. Per From derek.c.job at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 12:01:45 2011 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:01:45 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: big paper model of big healey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All, Please see below a message I received from a disabled man in Poland who is a model builder. I think the message is self explanatory and it would be great if any of you guys can supply him with copies of photos, diagrams, or drawings that would assist him in his goal to model a Big Healey. As he rightly says - it is the most beautiful British sports car!. Unfortunately all my archives are packed away with my furniture, which is still in storage but I said I would pass the message on to the Healey list experts. Derek. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: pawel minster Date: 2011/6/29 Subject: big paper model of big healey To: derek.c.job at gmail.com Dear Sir, I`m 56 years old cripple living in Krakow in Poland. My hobby is paper models craft. Because it is impossible for me to have real one big healey, I would like to make myself precise scale model of this car, car for me most beautiful from all british sports cars. If it is possible, could you help me with some photo and drawing marerials on technical technology of this car like chassis, axles, suspension and body. My dream is build big probably 1/10th scale model. Sorry for taking up your time. kind regards from Krakow yours sincerely Pawel Minster -- U?ywam klienta poczty Opera Mail: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From bertvanbrande at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 12:09:39 2011 From: bertvanbrande at yahoo.com (Bert Van Brande) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BN2 water temp gauge line length In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1309457379.46375.YahooMailClassic@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> On my BN2 there was a 7 0 spaced apart stamped on this nut. So 7 feet or 84 inches. A couple extras inches will not hurt as others indicated, Bert --- On Tue, 6/28/11, David Nock wrote: From: David Nock Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN2 water temp gauge line length To: "Don Tate" Cc: "Healeys at autox.team.net" Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 3:50 AM The length of the tube is stamped on the top of the nut that screws into the radiator. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca www.britishcarspecialists.com On Jun 27, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Don Tate wrote: > My gauges are being restored and today they called to ask how long the > capillary line needs to be. I won't bore everyone with the conversation but > they informed me they cut off the line and tossed it when the gauges arrived a > few months ago. > > I took some measurements of the path and came up with 7.5 - 8 ft. Does anyone > know or have one handy to measure? > > Many thanks > Don Tate > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bertvanbrande at yahoo.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 12:26:11 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:26:11 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Core plug In-Reply-To: <4E0CB207.8000809@bredband.net> References: <4E0CB207.8000809@bredband.net> Message-ID: Hi Mates, Long day has now ended in my garage. Belive it or not, but the car is back on the road. As I have never used theese doomed plugs, I bought an extra months ago. Lucky the front one came out, soo it was possible to install the new one and hit it with a bar from the wheel bay. No problems on the test yet, though I was carefull this time with the throttle. I have also retorqued the cylinderhead and reset the valve gaps. I had some unexpected problems with my new steering wheel. It did not fitted on the splines. I has to file the grooves one by one to get it on. Still a bit tight. Anybody ever encountered such problem? Gergo 2011/6/30 Per Schoerner > Hi > Has happened to me too, on my newly restored Sprite engine. I thought I had > hit the plug enough, but apparently not. Installed a new plug and gave it a > couple of good smacks, and the others too, and they have held on ever since > (7 years ago). Doomed plugs, you have to hit them in the centre so they > expand in to hole. If you hit them correctly they will be impossible to > remove without destroying I think. > > Per > > ______________________________**_________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/healeys/pajtamuvek@**gmail.com From pajtamuvek at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 13:09:12 2011 From: pajtamuvek at gmail.com (Austin Healey) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:09:12 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] High definition HD In-Reply-To: <8C125DB8-96E9-4B12-BA4E-35C1F91EFC22@bornet.net> References: <8C125DB8-96E9-4B12-BA4E-35C1F91EFC22@bornet.net> Message-ID: Nice job Sir! Gergo 2011/6/30 Magnus Karlsson > Hi everybody, > > I have just posted a "walk through" video of a MKI that has ben restored to > a > very high standard featuring full aluminium body, road/rally engine etc, > but > still retaining the stock look. > For those of you that might be interested in watching it. You can find it > on > the following home page: > > http://www.concourshealeys.com/videos/ > > It is the video on top of the page. > > > Magnus Karlsson > > www.concourshealeys.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pajtamuvek at gmail.com From Editorgary at aol.com Thu Jun 30 13:48:49 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:48:49 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Core Plugs Message-ID: In a message dated 6/30/11 11:29:03 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Hi > Has happened to me too, on my newly restored Sprite engine. I thought I > had hit the plug enough, but apparently not. Installed a new plug and > gave it a couple of good smacks, and the others too, and they have held > on ever since (7 years ago). Doomed plugs, you have to hit them in the > centre so they expand in to hole. If you hit them correctly they will be > impossible to remove without destroying I think. > > Per > I'd stick with original design, but silicone or even JBWeld is not a bad idea -- I've lost them on my MGA before. According to my mechanic, the trick is to start at the center and then pound in increasing circles out towards the edge of the plug -- I use a six-inch socket extension. Lots and lots of little taps. When you're done, the plug should be domed inward, not just flat. G. From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 14:18:15 2011 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:18:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Core Plugs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm not so sure about that, the original factory domed plug on the intake manifold of my BJ8 has always been domed outward, but then again it is an aluminum manifold... On 7/1/11, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/30/11 11:29:03 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > >> Hi >> Has happened to me too, on my newly restored Sprite engine. I thought I >> had hit the plug enough, but apparently not. Installed a new plug and >> gave it a couple of good smacks, and the others too, and they have held >> on ever since (7 years ago). Doomed plugs, you have to hit them in the >> centre so they expand in to hole. If you hit them correctly they will be >> impossible to remove without destroying I think. >> >> Per >> > > I'd stick with original design, but silicone or even JBWeld is not a bad > idea -- I've lost them on my MGA before. According to my mechanic, the trick > is to start at the center and then pound in increasing circles out towards > the edge of the plug -- I use a six-inch socket extension. Lots and lots of > little taps. When you're done, the plug should be domed inward, not just > flat. > G. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From Editorgary at aol.com Thu Jun 30 15:29:16 2011 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:29:16 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Core Plugs Message-ID: In a message dated 6/30/11 1:18:15 PM, healey.nut at gmail.com writes: > I'm not so sure about that, the original factory domed plug on the > intake manifold of my BJ8 has always been domed outward, but then > again it is an aluminum manifold... > I think that's different -- I'm assuming he's talking about what are often called "freeze plugs" on the side of the engine block. G. From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Thu Jun 30 20:43:10 2011 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:43:10 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day Message-ID: <469C98A338C84D63A89B6290E65D2AE8@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day It's July 1st in the Great South Land which is of course Canada Day. Best wishes to all our friends in Canada and raise a glass of red for me. Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia Ps To Alan in Hong Kong is it appropriate to send you best wishes for SAR Establishment Day? If it is, you have them. From gmandas at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 21:25:50 2011 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:25:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day In-Reply-To: <469C98A338C84D63A89B6290E65D2AE8@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <469C98A338C84D63A89B6290E65D2AE8@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <400801D6-902F-4FAE-A651-945E2DD0B451@yahoo.com> O Canada!! Greg 65BJ8 Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jun 30, 2011, at 10:43 PM, "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" wrote: > G'day > > > > It's July 1st in the Great South Land which is of course Canada Day. > > > > Best wishes to all our friends in Canada and raise a glass of red for me. > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Sydney, Australia > > > > Ps To Alan in Hong Kong is it appropriate to send you best wishes for SAR > Establishment Day? If it is, you have them. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From bn1 at pacbell.net Thu Jun 30 21:27:38 2011 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:27:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Colorado Springs Conclave In-Reply-To: <612D48DEB549409A8CC4853C6E221894@DANSTROM> References: <612D48DEB549409A8CC4853C6E221894@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <4E0D3EAA.6010607@pacbell.net> David, I hope you don't believe in truth in advertising because Green River certainly is more like the Mississippi's nickname of The Big Muddy. We stopped there in the BN1 in '82 on the way to Snowmass, CO for the 30th Anniversary. There were black beetles larger than your big toe floating in the pool! It was so hot we just swam around them. But, as with all Healey road trips, in the end and after a couple of beers, you'll remember it as one of the greatest trips you ever had! And Dan, I'm afraid I can show my age even a little more. I attended the national Boy Scout Jamboree there in 1960. (How about that, Ira?) Cheers and a great trip all of you Healeyites! I am VERY jealous. Bill '53 BN1 '61 BT7 On 6/29/2011 12:50 PM, Dan Stromquist wrote: > David: > Does that sound like an adventurous trip. I will bet the Ontario group will > have some stories to tell. Cannot go this year but will try to go next > year. I was recruited and played hockey at the Air Force Academy umpteen > years ago and have not been back in many years. > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of David Nock > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:44 PM > To: jerry wall > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Colorado Springs Conclave > > We will be heading out on Friday also taking 2 1/2 days almost 1300 > miles. Taking HWY 50 should be a fun trip. We are planning overnight > stops at Austin Nevada Friday night and Green River Utah on Saturday > night. Then it s up Glenwood Canyon thru Vail and Breckenridge, then > south around Pikes Peak to Colorado Springs. > > Hopefully the weather cooperates. Its raining here in Sunny > California in the end of June its only been about 20 years since that > happened. Global Warming > > See you all there > > > > David Nock From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 22:18:52 2011 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:18:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Colorado Springs Conclave In-Reply-To: <4E0D3EAA.6010607@pacbell.net> References: <612D48DEB549409A8CC4853C6E221894@DANSTROM> <4E0D3EAA.6010607@pacbell.net> Message-ID: It all sounds great, and yes you are showing your age 1960??? I was 5! :) On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Mr. Bill wrote: > David, I hope you don't believe in truth in advertising because Green > River certainly is more like the Mississippi's nickname of The Big > Muddy. We stopped there in the BN1 in '82 on the way to Snowmass, CO > for the 30th Anniversary. There were black beetles larger than your big > toe floating in the pool! It was so hot we just swam around them. But, > as with all Healey road trips, in the end and after a couple of beers, > you'll remember it as one of the greatest trips you ever had! > > And Dan, I'm afraid I can show my age even a little more. I attended > the national Boy Scout Jamboree there in 1960. (How about that, Ira?) > > Cheers and a great trip all of you Healeyites! I am VERY jealous. > > Bill > '53 BN1 > '61 BT7 > > On 6/29/2011 12:50 PM, Dan Stromquist wrote: > > David: > > Does that sound like an adventurous trip. I will bet the Ontario group > will > > have some stories to tell. Cannot go this year but will try to go next > > year. I was recruited and played hockey at the Air Force Academy umpteen > > years ago and have not been back in many years. > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > > On Behalf Of David Nock > > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:44 PM > > To: jerry wall > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Colorado Springs Conclave > > > > We will be heading out on Friday also taking 2 1/2 days almost 1300 > > miles. Taking HWY 50 should be a fun trip. We are planning overnight > > stops at Austin Nevada Friday night and Green River Utah on Saturday > > night. Then it s up Glenwood Canyon thru Vail and Breckenridge, then > > south around Pikes Peak to Colorado Springs. > > > > Hopefully the weather cooperates. Its raining here in Sunny > > California in the end of June its only been about 20 years since that > > happened. Global Warming > > > > See you all there > > > > > > > > David Nock > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs IT CONSULTANT Portland, OR We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein