Check out this web site: www.litezupp.com It seems like they have the use of LEDs figured out. Rick'59 BN4 > > Alan, > I have to disagree with you here. > Brightness plays a role but more important is the light pattern the bulb > gives. > These LED bulbs can only be used safely in lamps designed specifically > for them. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL