Sorry, US distaste AFAIAC for the pictures. As for Jim Frakes comments about the wickerizing this is about what I mean Cheers, Kees I Erbs schreef: > here are the salient sections culled from my emails. > > cheers > > Something along these lines? ;) > http://www.britishv8.org/Other/RayBencar.htm > > Okay, so it's not using SUs ...