From healeyguy at aol.com Thu Jul 1 00:16:06 2010 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 02:16:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Rendezvous Message-ID: <8CCE6FC0655A423-3A38-CDB9@Webmail-m116.sysops.aol.com> Day Three Update Interesting day of tech sessions and touring. Some folks did the rally and enjoyed near perfect weather. We elected to travel about 38 miles with about 40 Austin Healeys to an old flour mill that is a new state park in Oregon. Nice country and good roads. Tonight the Oregon club put on the meet auction with about a hundred items going over the block to help cover the cost of putting on the meet. Good fun for all. Aloha Perry From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Thu Jul 1 03:04:26 2010 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 10:04:26 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice In-Reply-To: <4C2BEEAD.3050607@justbrits.com> References: <4C2B8292.6040108@chello.nl> <227541.17063.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4C2BEEAD.3050607@justbrits.com> Message-ID: I realise that with the way that A-H head ports are laid out this is unlikely but I had an Allegro/Maxi engine that would not produce any power but would idle perfectly. It fooled many 'expects' for some time but in the end we discovered a blow through in the manifold gasket that allowed exhaust gas to feed back into the inlet manifold. Clearly as power started to build up the exhaust gas would contaminate the inlet mixture and reduce the power available. -- John Harper From Paull at glasgows.co.uk Thu Jul 1 04:54:16 2010 From: Paull at glasgows.co.uk (Paul Leeks) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:54:16 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice Message-ID: <86ACBC8750277041A4115960B570CD06518CEC@glamail.glasgowsnet.co.uk> Chaps Sorry to kick off a bit of (acetylene/WD40) flame :-) But I just wanted to thank you all, yet again, for all the great suggestions. I shall work my way through them and report back ... But one additional question: What type of oil should I have in my dash pots. I have got engine oil in them at the moment but I have all sorts of advice, ranging from very light 3-in-1 through to SAE 90 diff oil! All the best Paul -----Original Message----- From: Frakes, Jim [mailto:jimf at frakes-eng.com] Sent: 01 July 2010 03:15 To: Richard Ewald; Don Hardie Cc: Paul Leeks; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice I do not know who started the thread about the vacuum (possible) but I would like to relate an interesting vac leak that occurred on our UK2K trip to Europe in 2002. After changing nearly everything, it was found the hole plug in the end of the intake manifold (six cylinder) was loose and would open as the vacuum increased on the road. A little sealer fixed the problem that had been dogging us for three days. Jim ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all known viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________ From rchaskell at earthlink.net Thu Jul 1 05:02:39 2010 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:02:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice In-Reply-To: <86ACBC8750277041A4115960B570CD06518CEC@glamail.glasgowsnet.co.uk> References: <86ACBC8750277041A4115960B570CD06518CEC@glamail.glasgowsnet.co.uk> Message-ID: <4C2C75CF.7060904@earthlink.net> Burlen/SU Carburetter Co recommends straight 20. http://www.sucarb.co.uk/TechnicalDetail.aspx?id=26 Be sure that the plug wires are installed in the distributor cap in the correct order. I got bit on an MGB by having the direction of rotor rotation backwards. Would idle, but cylinders 2 and 3 weren't doing much. Paul Leeks wrote: > Chaps > > Sorry to kick off a bit of (acetylene/WD40) flame :-) > > But I just wanted to thank you all, yet again, for all the great suggestions. > I shall work my way through them and report back ... > > But one additional question: > > What type of oil should I have in my dash pots. I have got engine oil in > them at the moment but I have all sorts of advice, ranging from very light > 3-in-1 through to SAE 90 diff oil! > > All the best > > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frakes, Jim [mailto:jimf at frakes-eng.com] > Sent: 01 July 2010 03:15 > To: Richard Ewald; Don Hardie > Cc: Paul Leeks; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice > > I do not know who started the thread about the vacuum (possible) but I > would like to relate an interesting vac leak that occurred on our UK2K > trip to Europe in 2002. After changing nearly everything, it was found > the hole plug in the end of the intake manifold (six cylinder) was loose > and would open as the vacuum increased on the road. A little sealer > fixed the problem that had been dogging us for three days. > Jim > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for all known viruses by Star. The > service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive > anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: > http://www.star.net.uk > ________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 1 06:54:12 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 05:54:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice In-Reply-To: References: <4C2B8292.6040108@chello.nl> <227541.17063.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4C2BEEAD.3050607@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4C2C8FF4.2060402@comcast.net> Ahhhhh ... the original LBC EGR valve. bs John Harper wrote: > I realise that with the way that A-H head ports are laid out this is > unlikely but I had an Allegro/Maxi engine that would not produce any > power but would idle perfectly. It fooled many 'expects' for some time > but in the end we discovered a blow through in the manifold gasket > that allowed exhaust gas to feed back into the inlet manifold. Clearly > as power started to build up the exhaust gas would contaminate the > inlet mixture and reduce the power available. > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 1 06:59:54 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 05:59:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice In-Reply-To: <86ACBC8750277041A4115960B570CD06518CEC@glamail.glasgowsnet.co.uk> References: <86ACBC8750277041A4115960B570CD06518CEC@glamail.glasgowsnet.co.uk> Message-ID: <4C2C914A.7000500@comcast.net> The semi-official recommended oil is 20W, like '3-in-1' oil or similar, but some use ATF or whatever engine oil they happen to carry. I think SAE 90 is overkill, and might hamper acceleration. As long as the engine doesn't stumble when you punch it the oil is proper. bs Paul Leeks wrote: > Chaps > > Sorry to kick off a bit of (acetylene/WD40) flame :-) > > But I just wanted to thank you all, yet again, for all the great suggestions. > I shall work my way through them and report back ... > > But one additional question: > > What type of oil should I have in my dash pots. I have got engine oil in > them at the moment but I have all sorts of advice, ranging from very light > 3-in-1 through to SAE 90 diff oil! > > All the best > > Paul > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Jul 1 10:58:29 2010 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 09:58:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 ipholstery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frank, Yes, if you look at the original foam ("Dunlopillow') it had square holes molded in the bottom. The newer replacement foam being much denser to begin with has no such holes...therefore you sit way too high. The solution has been around for sometime and is very simple, you can either use a hole saw (about a 2" diameter) and drill a pattern of circular holes in the bottom of the cushion. I have a neat heated wire setup designed by the late David Koch of Canada, where I can cut square holes (as original) out of the cushions. Roger Moment has been doing this for years and it works well. I just judged 3 100Ms at Concours at Rendezvous and the one that Roger did the interior on had these holes in the seat cushions. They looked close and performed as original. *Shameless plug time.. stop reading if you are offended by Concours. However, the holes need to be drilled BEFORE you spend money having the seats upholstered. This is discussed specifically in the "Interior and Soft Trim" section of the Concours guidelines, in note: 90 under "Seat Cushions." You see reading the Guidelines is not just for Concours, they can help you save time and money on any quality restoration. * Cheers, Curt On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Frank Edwards wrote: > Hello Healey people; > > I know this has been discussed before so please forgive me for bringing it > up > again but maybe there are some new ideas out there. > > Just got my interior back from the upholstery shop. I installed the > drivers > seat (sort of an instant gratification thing, I think) to be able to sit in > my > car for the first time in 20+ years. The seat cushions are too dense. You > don't set in the seat, you sit on top of it. I get in my 69 Midget and > sink > down in the seat. Much softer. Big difference. > > Any thoughts, new or old, on this "issue"? > > Frank R. Edwards 570-784-4662 logical2 at hotmail.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________ From jpayne at ThorCon.net Thu Jul 1 11:13:12 2010 From: jpayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 10:13:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Phoenix Upholstery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wanted to follow up with a big thumbs up for Dave at Phoenix Upholstery. My carpet set has arrived. It is gorgeous and the price was right. As a side note, Dave's guys forgot to include 1 piece. Dave express overnight mailed the replacement at significant expense to himself to "make it right", probably to the extent that he lost $ on the entire transaction. So often all we hear is gripes, not everybody has had a good experience with Phoenix, but they have earned my repeat business. 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From michael at mcassociatesinc.com Thu Jul 1 12:34:28 2010 From: michael at mcassociatesinc.com (Michael Couch) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 14:34:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulation Update Message-ID: <8CF5843579B4452A916D72EEE3B8AB8A@MCOUCHOFFICE> I'm about ready to finish the interior of my BN2. Any updates on success with temperature/sound insulation for under the carpet? (I've already followed Norm Nocks guidance on stopping the flow of heat. May he RIP) Local wisdom supports Dynamat that I've used successfully in the past. Now I see that they offer Dynamat Xtreme to be used in conjunction with Dynaliner and/or Dynapad. Any success with those combos? I also see that Eastwood has a new butyl rubber/aluminum foil product. I'm not interested in concours, just the best option for regular driver. Any guidance appreciated. Mike Couch Pittsburgh BN2 100M AN2 AN7 From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Thu Jul 1 13:09:40 2010 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 15:09:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 ipholstery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Everyone talks about new seats sitting oneself too high. My seats are original and are so low that my wife and I both sit on about 2 in thick cushions... she's 5'2" and I'm 5'8". Maybe we just need new cushions because it seems that the only way we grow now is out, not up :^( Bob Johnson BJ8 > > Yes, if you look at the original foam ("Dunlopillow') it had square holes > molded in the bottom. The newer replacement foam being much denser to begin > with has no such holes...therefore you sit way too high. From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Thu Jul 1 13:13:46 2010 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 15:13:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Rendezvous In-Reply-To: <8CCE6FC0655A423-3A38-CDB9@Webmail-m116.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCE6FC0655A423-3A38-CDB9@Webmail-m116.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I just keep wondering how long it took Perry to drive, and did he take the overwater or underwater route? Bob Johnson BJ8 On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:16 AM, wrote: > Day Three Update > Aloha > Perry From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jul 1 13:32:09 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:32:09 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice In-Reply-To: <86ACBC8750277041A4115960B570CD06518CEC@glamail.glasgowsnet.co.uk> References: <86ACBC8750277041A4115960B570CD06518CEC@glamail.glasgowsnet.co.uk> Message-ID: <4C2CED39.2040908@chello.nl> Use a fairly light oil. 3 in 1 is fine but may disappear fairly quickly. ATF is the most commonly used oil in the dashpots. Better than the usually manufacturers prescribed engine oil, which is to heavy. There is a special oil for these carbs but I cannot remember type or name as it is not generally used. Kees Oudesluijs NL Paul Leeks wrote: > Chaps > > Sorry to kick off a bit of (acetylene/WD40) flame :-) > > But I just wanted to thank you all, yet again, for all the great suggestions. > I shall work my way through them and report back ... > > But one additional question: > > What type of oil should I have in my dash pots. I have got engine oil in > them at the moment but I have all sorts of advice, ranging from very light > 3-in-1 through to SAE 90 diff oil! > > All the best > > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frakes, Jim [mailto:jimf at frakes-eng.com] > Sent: 01 July 2010 03:15 > To: Richard Ewald; Don Hardie > Cc: Paul Leeks; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice > > I do not know who started the thread about the vacuum (possible) but I > would like to relate an interesting vac leak that occurred on our UK2K > trip to Europe in 2002. After changing nearly everything, it was found > the hole plug in the end of the intake manifold (six cylinder) was loose > and would open as the vacuum increased on the road. A little sealer > fixed the problem that had been dogging us for three days. > Jim > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for all known viruses by Star. The > service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive > anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: > http://www.star.net.uk > ________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl From fredwescoe at gmail.com Thu Jul 1 14:37:00 2010 From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 16:37:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Kennett Square, PA activities Message-ID: Listers, I am visiting in the Kennett Square, PA area for a week or so. Are there any Healey activities in the Philadelphia area in the next week or so? Is there anyone on the list in the area who can direct me to local parts houses that can get parts for my BJ7? Thanks, Fred 63BJ7 From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jul 1 15:05:20 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZXllcmEzQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==?=) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:05:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?A_bit_of_tuning_advice?= Message-ID: <4c2d0302.2765730a.6d50.038e@mx.google.com> I like mystery Marvell oil Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Please excuse typos Ira Erbs DIGS-4 Solutions. IT Consulting ----- Reply message ----- From: "Oudesluys" Date: Thu, Jul 1, 2010 12:32 pm Subject: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice To: "Paul Leeks" Cc: Use a fairly light oil. 3 in 1 is fine but may disappear fairly quickly. ATF is the most commonly used oil in the dashpots. Better than the usually manufacturers prescribed engine oil, which is to heavy. There is a special oil for these carbs but I cannot remember type or name as it is not generally used. Kees Oudesluijs NL Paul Leeks wrote: > Chaps > > Sorry to kick off a bit of (acetylene/WD40) flame :-) > > But I just wanted to thank you all, yet again, for all the great suggestions. > I shall work my way through them and report back ... > > But one additional question: > > What type of oil should I have in my dash pots. I have got engine oil in > them at the moment but I have all sorts of advice, ranging from very light > 3-in-1 through to SAE 90 diff oil! > > All the best > > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frakes, Jim [mailto:jimf at frakes-eng.com] > Sent: 01 July 2010 03:15 > To: Richard Ewald; Don Hardie > Cc: Paul Leeks; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice > > I do not know who started the thread about the vacuum (possible) but I > would like to relate an interesting vac leak that occurred on our UK2K > trip to Europe in 2002. After changing nearly everything, it was found > the hole plug in the end of the intake manifold (six cylinder) was loose > and would open as the vacuum increased on the road. A little sealer > fixed the problem that had been dogging us for three days. > Jim > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for all known viruses by Star. The > service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive > anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: > http://www.star.net.uk > ________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Thu Jul 1 15:07:08 2010 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 07:07:08 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice In-Reply-To: <4C2CED39.2040908@chello.nl> References: <86ACBC8750277041A4115960B570CD06518CEC@glamail.glasgowsnet.co.uk> <4C2CED39.2040908@chello.nl> Message-ID: <7BEA033C0CC14884A23EBCDFAADA51F0@Notebook> How about Penrite dashpot oil Kees? Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz -------------------------------------------------- From: "Oudesluys" Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 5:32 AM To: "Paul Leeks" Cc: Subject: Re: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice > Use a fairly light oil. 3 in 1 is fine but may disappear fairly quickly. > ATF is the most commonly used oil in the dashpots. Better than the usually > manufacturers prescribed engine oil, which is to heavy. There is a special > oil for these carbs but I cannot remember type or name as it is not > generally used. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > Paul Leeks wrote: >> Chaps >> >> Sorry to kick off a bit of (acetylene/WD40) flame :-) >> >> But I just wanted to thank you all, yet again, for all the great >> suggestions. >> I shall work my way through them and report back ... >> >> But one additional question: >> >> What type of oil should I have in my dash pots. I have got engine oil in >> them at the moment but I have all sorts of advice, ranging from very >> light >> 3-in-1 through to SAE 90 diff oil! >> >> All the best >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Frakes, Jim [mailto:jimf at frakes-eng.com] >> Sent: 01 July 2010 03:15 >> To: Richard Ewald; Don Hardie >> Cc: Paul Leeks; healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: RE: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice >> >> I do not know who started the thread about the vacuum (possible) but I >> would like to relate an interesting vac leak that occurred on our UK2K >> trip to Europe in 2002. After changing nearly everything, it was found >> the hole plug in the end of the intake manifold (six cylinder) was loose >> and would open as the vacuum increased on the road. A little sealer >> fixed the problem that had been dogging us for three days. >> Jim >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> This e-mail has been scanned for all known viruses by Star. The >> service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive >> anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: >> http://www.star.net.uk >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/greylinn at ozemail.com.au From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu Jul 1 16:02:56 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:02:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice In-Reply-To: <7BEA033C0CC14884A23EBCDFAADA51F0@Notebook> References: <86ACBC8750277041A4115960B570CD06518CEC@glamail.glasgowsnet.co.uk> <4C2CED39.2040908@chello.nl> <7BEA033C0CC14884A23EBCDFAADA51F0@Notebook> Message-ID: <032a01cb1969$29782030$7c686090$@verizon.net> I use it. Rather pricy but what the heck. If I didn't spend all my money on my Healey, I would spend it on wine, women and song or other vices. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter & Veronica Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:07 PM To: Oudesluys; Paul Leeks Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice How about Penrite dashpot oil Kees? Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz -------------------------------------------------- From: "Oudesluys" From healeyguy at aol.com Thu Jul 1 16:56:07 2010 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:56:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Rendezvous 2010 In-Reply-To: References: <8CCE6FC0655A423-3A38-CDB9@Webmail-m116.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCE787B8D4C0CD-FE0-51B8@webmail-m037.sysops.aol.com> Interesting that you would bring that up Bob. First thought about a long ramp up the side of the Koolau mountains but realized we would have to accelerate to space shuttle speeds. Threw that idea out. The 100 will only go a bit over a 100. Couldn't find a snorkel system that was long enough to drive under the eastern Pacific not to mention driving our Healey in salt water. So that was out. Resigned to use a two mile long runway and a device from Boeing. Seemed to work and got a turkey sandwich and chips to boot. (The other kind of boot!) Just finished a tour of covered bridges in the country side around Eugene plus a tech session. The BJ9 performed perfectly. The air conditioning, sound system and lack of burning feet added the enjoyment. The comradery was great too. Awards banquet is later this evening. Tomorrow morning will be the time to say .....see you again next time...... Aloha Perry -----Original Message----- From: Bob Johnson To: Healeys Sent: Thu, Jul 1, 2010 9:13 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Rendezvous I just keep wondering how long it took Perry to drive, and did he take the overwater or underwater route? Bob Johnson BJ8 On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:16 AM, wrote: > Day Three Update > Aloha > Perry _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jul 1 17:12:32 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZXllcmEzQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==?=) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:12:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?Healey_Rendezvous_2010?= Message-ID: <4c2d20d2.2104720a.14fb.0823@mx.google.com> I'm 109 miles north and cannot fit in the trip south. Due to the lack of dedicated funding of schools in Oregon, I was rif from my teaching job and spent this week cleaning out my room. We leave Sat. For an Alaskan cruise. I'm envious and pissed not meet you all and show off pics if my restoring. Cheers Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Please excuse typos Ira Erbs DIGS-4 Solutions. IT Consulting ----- Reply message ----- From: healeyguy at aol.com Date: Thu, Jul 1, 2010 3:56 pm Subject: [Healeys] Healey Rendezvous 2010 To: Interesting that you would bring that up Bob. First thought about a long ramp up the side of the Koolau mountains but realized we would have to accelerate to space shuttle speeds. Threw that idea out. The 100 will only go a bit over a 100. Couldn't find a snorkel system that was long enough to drive under the eastern Pacific not to mention driving our Healey in salt water. So that was out. Resigned to use a two mile long runway and a device from Boeing. Seemed to work and got a turkey sandwich and chips to boot. (The other kind of boot!) Just finished a tour of covered bridges in the country side around Eugene plus a tech session. The BJ9 performed perfectly. The air conditioning, sound system and lack of burning feet added the enjoyment. The comradery was great too. Awards banquet is later this evening. Tomorrow morning will be the time to say .....see you again next time...... Aloha Perry -----Original Message----- From: Bob Johnson To: Healeys Sent: Thu, Jul 1, 2010 9:13 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Rendezvous I just keep wondering how long it took Perry to drive, and did he take the overwater or underwater route? Bob Johnson BJ8 On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:16 AM, wrote: > Day Three Update > Aloha > Perry _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 1 17:43:36 2010 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 19:43:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Test Message-ID: <000601cb1977$3a54a6e0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> I think I got knocked off the list. ML From gmandas at yahoo.com Thu Jul 1 18:40:03 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 17:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] July 4th Message-ID: <59706.3435.qm@web56106.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Anyone know of any Healey events in southwestern Ohio (Dayton area) this weekend? Greg Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. From pyoas at yahoo.com Thu Jul 1 18:52:42 2010 From: pyoas at yahoo.com (Patrick Yoas) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 17:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Subject: Re: A bit of tuning advice Message-ID: <708855.1232.qm@web112502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Paul, Use "Marvel Mistery Oil" in your carbs. It'll lubricate the upper end area of your engine and it is light unlike regualr engine oil. Patrick Use a fairly light oil. 3 in 1 is fine but may disappear fairly quickly. ATF is the most commonly used oil in the dashpots. Better than the usually manufacturers prescribed engine oil, which is to heavy. There is a special oil for these carbs but I cannot remember type or name as it is not generally used. Kees Oudesluijs NL Paul Leeks wrote: > Chaps > > Sorry to kick off a bit of (acetylene/WD40) flame :-) > > But I just wanted to thank you all, yet again, for all the great suggestions. > I shall work my way through them and report back ... > > But one additional question: > > What type of oil should I have in my dash pots. I have got engine oil in > them at the moment but I have all sorts of advice, ranging from very light > 3-in-1 through to SAE 90 diff oil! > > All the best > > Paul From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Thu Jul 1 19:09:47 2010 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:09:47 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] July 4th In-Reply-To: <59706.3435.qm@web56106.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <59706.3435.qm@web56106.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <18FC1E72524B41FDAC9B5BA016CEA01D@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day There isn't much happening on July 4th in this part of the world, but sometime during the day before we should raise a glass or whatever and toast Donald Mitchell Healey as it's his birthday. Born 3 July 1898 in Perranporth, Cornwall, England. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Mandas Sent: Friday, 2 July 2010 10:40 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] July 4th Anyone know of any Healey events in southwestern Ohio (Dayton area) this weekend? Greg Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jul 1 19:16:44 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:16:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Test In-Reply-To: <000601cb1977$3a54a6e0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000601cb1977$3a54a6e0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <4C2D3DFC.9080808@justbrits.com> << I think I got knocked off the list. >> About -1% chance of that occurring with the MM Package MJB uses, Mark. Now as to sbcglobal.net, who knows - LOL !!! And/or one can ALWAYS use the Link: Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ YOUR at eMail Addy that IS at the bottom of EVERY List Post !! Just ONE [1] of the reasons it IS there !!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] From gmandas at yahoo.com Thu Jul 1 19:22:38 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 18:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] July 4th Message-ID: <443497.52712.qm@web56103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Excellent idea. An around the world toast to a man who knew how to marry grace, beauty, style and horsepower in a way not seen in a long time. Hoo Roo, it is! Greg Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jul 1, 2010, at 9:09 PM, "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" wrote: G'day There isn't much happening on July 4th in this part of the world, but sometime during the day before we should raise a glass or whatever and toast Donald Mitchell Healey as it's his birthday. Born 3 July 1898 in Perranporth, Cornwall, England. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Mandas Sent: Friday, 2 July 2010 10:40 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] July 4th Anyone know of any Healey events in southwestern Ohio (Dayton area) this weekend? Greg Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From mark at bradakis.com Thu Jul 1 21:35:37 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:35:37 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] List membership notes Message-ID: <20100702033537.4C34C2E06C@bradakis.com> For some reason it seems I've gotten more than the usual number of admin messages regarding posts by a non-member to a list. It has been happening on a number of the many lists I manage, not just this one. Basically what happens is this: People subscribe AddressA to the list. They get the messages at that address. They send messages to the list from AddressB. AddressA is a member, AddressB is not. The post from AddressB is rejected as non-member spam. Send messages from the address that is subscribed and they won't get rejected as non-member spam. If you aren't set up for digest mode, the address where you get the mail is listed in the trailer of each and every posting, right there below the donate link. Donate early, donate often! If you normally send messages from AddressB, then subscribe AddressB to the list. If you want messages to go to AddressA and not AddressB, then subscribe AddressB and set your mailman options to not deliver to AddressB. Hopefully this will assist some folks with managing Team.Net email. mjb. From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Jul 2 01:34:32 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:34:32 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice In-Reply-To: <7BEA033C0CC14884A23EBCDFAADA51F0@Notebook> References: <86ACBC8750277041A4115960B570CD06518CEC@glamail.glasgowsnet.co.uk> <4C2CED39.2040908@chello.nl> <7BEA033C0CC14884A23EBCDFAADA51F0@Notebook> Message-ID: <4C2D9688.1070108@chello.nl> Thanks Peter! Slalnte, Kees Oudesluijs Peter & Veronica wrote: > How about Penrite dashpot oil Kees? > > Cheers > > Peter Linn > Brisbane Oz > > > >> Use a fairly light oil. 3 in 1 is fine but may disappear fairly >> quickly. ATF is the most commonly used oil in the dashpots. Better >> than the usually manufacturers prescribed engine oil, which is to >> heavy. There is a special oil for these carbs but I cannot remember >> type or name as it is not generally used. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL >> >> >> Paul Leeks wrote: >>> Chaps >>> >>> >>> >>> What type of oil should I have in my dash pots. I have got engine >>> oil in >>> them at the moment but I have all sorts of advice, ranging from very >>> light >>> 3-in-1 through to SAE 90 diff oil! >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> Paul From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 2 02:07:20 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:07:20 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice In-Reply-To: <4C2D9688.1070108@chello.nl> References: <86ACBC8750277041A4115960B570CD06518CEC@glamail.glasgowsnet.co.uk> <4C2CED39.2040908@chello.nl> <7BEA033C0CC14884A23EBCDFAADA51F0@Notebook> <4C2D9688.1070108@chello.nl> Message-ID: I suggest SU damper oil, because it says SU in big fancy blue letters on the bottle. http://www.sucarb.co.uk/productDetail.aspx?id=26524 That way when you zip open your kit to show the bikini car show lady your tool, she will see you are officially lubricated. She will likely be nerdly impressed. Alan On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Oudesluys wrote: > Thanks Peter! > Slalnte, > Kees Oudesluijs > > Peter & Veronica wrote: > >> How about Penrite dashpot oil Kees? >> >> Cheers >> >> Peter Linn >> Brisbane Oz From ah3000me at gmail.com Fri Jul 2 09:21:53 2010 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:21:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Just what the doc ordered... Message-ID: So, I'm fresh out of the repair shop, and my wife just dropped off the July Healey Marque. Everything in the issue from the retro Safety Fast article to Bling-Bling polishing the SU's looks great. Thanks for a fantastic issue -- just what the doctor ordered! And a surprising Healey connection -- the physical therapist owned at new 67 3000 back in the day. - Tom From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Fri Jul 2 10:43:39 2010 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 09:43:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Just what the doc ordered... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000a01cb1a05$b9ec4960$2dc4dc20$@com> Tom, the random connections with Healeys is an interesting thread. I am always amazed at the number of people who approach me at shows and events with stories of "back when I was in the Army," back when I was in college," or "dad/brother/uncle/college roommate had a Healey." Earlier this week I was on a business trip and one of our medical directors saw my car on my Blackberry, and off we went. Bruce Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:22 AM To: Healey Mail List Subject: [Healeys] Just what the doc ordered... So, I'm fresh out of the repair shop, and my wife just dropped off the July Healey Marque. Everything in the issue from the retro Safety Fast article to Bling-Bling polishing the SU's looks great. Thanks for a fantastic issue -- just what the doctor ordered! And a surprising Healey connection -- the physical therapist owned at new 67 3000 back in the day. - Tom _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeybruce at roadrunner.com From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 2 13:06:02 2010 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 12:06:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Test Message-ID: Hello is anyone out there. I have not received a single e mail since last night Hello..........Hello..............Hello From ahbn6 at verizon.net Fri Jul 2 13:28:44 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:28:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Just what the doc ordered... In-Reply-To: <000a01cb1a05$b9ec4960$2dc4dc20$@com> References: <000a01cb1a05$b9ec4960$2dc4dc20$@com> Message-ID: <037901cb1a1c$c949bb10$5bdd3130$@verizon.net> Based upon those comments, there were probably over a million people who once owned a Healey. Of course, recently I have had people comment on my "Old Corvette" and my "Aston Martin" John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Healey Bruce Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:44 PM To: 'Tom'; 'Healey Mail List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Just what the doc ordered... Tom, the random connections with Healeys is an interesting thread. I am always amazed at the number of people who approach me at shows and events with stories of "back when I was in the Army," back when I was in college," or "dad/brother/uncle/college roommate had a Healey." Earlier this week I was on a business trip and one of our medical directors saw my car on my Blackberry, and off we went. Bruce Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:22 AM To: Healey Mail List Subject: [Healeys] Just what the doc ordered... So, I'm fresh out of the repair shop, and my wife just dropped off the July Healey Marque. Everything in the issue from the retro Safety Fast article to Bling-Bling polishing the SU's looks great. Thanks for a fantastic issue -- just what the doctor ordered! And a surprising Healey connection -- the physical therapist owned at new 67 3000 back in the day. - Tom From pieters at pt.lu Fri Jul 2 13:38:43 2010 From: pieters at pt.lu (Pieter and Linda) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:38:43 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A52D080-87AC-4CDB-8FE6-54197B411C68@pt.lu> Moyen from Luxembourg David. On 02/07/2010, at 9:06 PM, David Nock wrote: > Hello is anyone out there. I have not received a single e mail since > last night > > Hello..........Hello..............Hello > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pieters at pt.lu From bertvanbrande at yahoo.com Fri Jul 2 14:51:03 2010 From: bertvanbrande at yahoo.com (Bert Van Brande) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] July 4th In-Reply-To: <18FC1E72524B41FDAC9B5BA016CEA01D@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <999805.76904.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cheers from California! Or Gezondheid! (my Belgian roots) I wonder in how many languages we could toast to Donald on this list? Bert From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 2 17:00:59 2010 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins ) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:00:59 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Test Message-ID: Yup alls well in Kentucky ------Original Message------ From: Pieter and Linda To: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Test Sent: Jul 2, 2010 14:38 Moyen from Luxembourg David. On 02/07/2010, at 9:06 PM, David Nock wrote: > Hello is anyone out there. I have not received a single e mail since > last night > > Hello..........Hello..............Hello > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pieters at pt.lu _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From rkorn at simnet.is Fri Jul 2 17:14:56 2010 From: rkorn at simnet.is (Richard Korn) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:14:56 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] July 4th References: <999805.76904.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Skal fra Mslandi Richard (Rmkharpur) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bert Van Brande" To: "'Greg Mandas'" ; ; "Patrickand Caroline Quinn" Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] July 4th > Cheers from California! > > Or > > Gezondheid! (my Belgian roots) > > I wonder in how many languages we could toast to Donald on this list? > > Bert > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rkorn at simnet.is From medlabinc at msn.com Fri Jul 2 17:20:43 2010 From: medlabinc at msn.com (Dick Matson) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:20:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: A bit of tuning advice Message-ID: My Goodness. I once inherited a 5-gallon container of Marvel Mystery Oil. I still have most of it. I put a little in the Farmall gas tank when I fuel it up. I used it for dash pots but get that from David Nock. There's something about it that on Davids container it says dash pot oil. I like that. Dick Matson / Bj8 ----- Original Message ----- From: eyera3 at gmail.com To: Oudesluys ; Paul Leeks Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice I like mystery Marvell oil Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Please excuse typos Ira Erbs DIGS-4 Solutions. IT Consulting ----- Reply message ----- From: "Oudesluys" > Date: Thu, Jul 1, 2010 12:32 pm Subject: [Healeys] A bit of tuning advice To: "Paul Leeks" > Cc: > Use a fairly light oil. 3 in 1 is fine but may disappear fairly quickly. ATF is the most commonly used oil in the dashpots. Better than the usually manufacturers prescribed engine oil, which is to heavy. There is a special oil for these carbs but I cannot remember type or name as it is not generally used. Kees Oudesluijs NL Paul Leeks wrote: > Chaps > > Sorry to kick off a bit of (acetylene/WD40) flame :-) > > But I just wanted to thank you all, yet again, for all the great suggestions. > I shall work my way through them and report back ... > > But one additional question: > > What type of oil should I have in my dash pots. I have got engine oil in > them at the moment but I have all sorts of advice, ranging from very light > 3-in-1 through to SAE 90 diff oil! > > All the best > > Paul From mslechta at chartermi.net Fri Jul 2 17:42:24 2010 From: mslechta at chartermi.net (Mike Slechta) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 18:42:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <841592C3E14F479094FC586D7B953A28@MikesLaptop> Can't complain about Wisconsin either. Sunny, warm & no humidity - makes you want to mow lawn (or down a few brews). ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Collins To: Pieter and Linda ; healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Test Yup alls well in Kentucky ------Original Message------ From: Pieter and Linda To: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Test Sent: Jul 2, 2010 14:38 Moyen from Luxembourg David. On 02/07/2010, at 9:06 PM, David Nock wrote: > Hello is anyone out there. I have not received a single e mail since > last night > > Hello..........Hello..............Hello > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pieters at pt.lu _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mslechta at chartermi.net From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jul 2 19:55:35 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:55:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] July 4th In-Reply-To: References: <999805.76904.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Cheers from Southern Ontario, Canada, eh! Rich Chrysler -------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Korn" Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:14 PM To: "Bert Van Brande" ; "'Greg Mandas'" ; ; "Patrickand CarolineQuinn" Subject: Re: [Healeys] July 4th > Skal fra Mslandi > > Richard (Rmkharpur) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bert Van Brande" > To: "'Greg Mandas'" ; ; > "Patrickand Caroline Quinn" > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] July 4th > > >> Cheers from California! >> >> Or >> >> Gezondheid! (my Belgian roots) >> >> I wonder in how many languages we could toast to Donald on this list? >> >> Bert >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rkorn at simnet.is > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jul 2 20:22:17 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZXllcmEzQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==?=) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:22:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?July_4th?= Message-ID: <4c2e9ec9.20d7720a.3594.5b61@mx.google.com> I'll be in Vancouver,bc on the 4th. My wife and I are going on a cruise to Alaska, Cheers to all Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Please excuse typos Ira Erbs DIGS-4 Solutions. IT Consulting ----- Reply message ----- From: "Rich C" Date: Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:55 pm Subject: [Healeys] July 4th To: "Richard Korn" , "Bert Van Brande" , "'Greg Mandas'" , , "Patrickand CarolineQuinn" Cheers from Southern Ontario, Canada, eh! Rich Chrysler -------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Korn" Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:14 PM To: "Bert Van Brande" ; "'Greg Mandas'" ; ; "Patrickand CarolineQuinn" Subject: Re: [Healeys] July 4th > Skal fra Mslandi > > Richard (Rmkharpur) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bert Van Brande" > To: "'Greg Mandas'" ; ; > "Patrickand Caroline Quinn" > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] July 4th > > >> Cheers from California! >> >> Or >> >> Gezondheid! (my Belgian roots) >> >> I wonder in how many languages we could toast to Donald on this list? >> >> Bert >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rkorn at simnet.is > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jul 3 00:11:33 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 08:11:33 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] July 4th In-Reply-To: <999805.76904.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <999805.76904.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C2ED495.1040500@chello.nl> I will join the toast, Slalnte, (semi Gaelic roots, SWMBO is Irish) Kees Oudesluijs Bert Van Brande wrote: > Cheers from California! > > Or > > Gezondheid! (my Belgian roots) > > I wonder in how many languages we could toast to Donald on this list? > > Bert > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jul 3 06:59:24 2010 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 05:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Goodwood Festival of Speed -Live Video Feed Message-ID: <989382.39432.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Watch the Festival live here: http://www.insideracinglive.com/#InsideRacingLive Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From ah3000me at gmail.com Sat Jul 3 07:28:27 2010 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 09:28:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey sighting on Masterpiece theater Message-ID: My wife told me there was an episode of Miss Marple (Agatha Christie) on Masterpiece Theatre while I was in the repair shop that had a number of big Healey shots. The episode is "The Secret of the Chimneys". Good news is that PBS is streaming these episodes over the net: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/marple/watch.html It's available thru July 4 happy viewing, Tom From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 3 17:43:58 2010 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 16:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Blackhawk Farms Auston-Healey Driiver Education Day Message-ID: <905041.96297.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The Blackhawk Farms Raceway Austin-Healey Driver Education associated with Conclave 2010 has a feew open slots for non-Conclave participants. Fiday July 17th an Austin-Healey only Drivere Education Day will be held at Blackhawk Farms Raceway northwest of Rockford, IL. Complete details can be found at the link provided. http://www.austinhealeyconclave.com/BlackHawk_Reg_rv03.pdf This could be one of the best "track" days associated with a Conclave. Remember it is for Ausitn-Healey owners and their Austin-Healeys only. From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Sat Jul 3 17:51:38 2010 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 19:51:38 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Healey Rendezvous & Birthday Message-ID: Just walked in the door from a great time in Oregon. All the driving up and around Oregon was a blast. The club drives were much fun and then the trip home was eventful. Just north of Shasta Lake I was traveling south on highway 5 and going around a corner and the left rear tire blew. Stayed safe and in control, made it to the side of the road, pulled over, and had it all fixed and back on the road in about a half an hour. All good. Continued safely to Sacramento, spent the night and continued on home. Told my friends all I needed to do is make it another hundred and fifty miles or so and I'll be in the free tow home range. My car must have heard me, with 150 miles left on the trip, my fuel pump gave up the ghost and I coasted to the side of the freeway. Forty minutes later and she's sitting on the top of a flatbed and were both being driven home. And good thing, because when we game to the bottom of the grapevine heading towards Los Angeles, cars were backed up, not moving and it was HOT!!!!!!! For those who don't know, the "grapevine" is a big steep hill right south of Bakersfield and leads up and over the mountains into Los Angeles. So the fuel pump was very much a blessing in disguise, and I can't think of a better day to have this all happen on, so here's to you, Mr. Donald Healey; Happy Birthday and I'm happy to drive one of your "smart" cars. You and my car, got me home safe and gave me a wonderful week away with other Healey folk! Thanks! And thanks again to all the folks in Oregon, much fun! Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 From gmandas at yahoo.com Sat Jul 3 19:17:57 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 18:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Here's to Donald Healey Message-ID: <358532.23908.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> A man of vision. Cheers. Greg Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. From m.brouillette at comcast.net Sat Jul 3 20:42:11 2010 From: m.brouillette at comcast.net (Mike Brouillette) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 22:42:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Here's to Donald Healey In-Reply-To: <358532.23908.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <358532.23908.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19EF78F693AC4F4DA248357171A1BB33@Healey> I'm sitting here with a cold Margarita looking at my Healey thinking of Donald Healey. Happy birthday old man... -------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Mandas" Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 9:17 PM To: "Gregory M. Mandas" Cc: "Healey Mail List" Subject: [Healeys] Here's to Donald Healey > A man of vision. > > Cheers. > > Greg > > Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.brouillette at comcast.net From austin.healey at gmail.com Sat Jul 3 23:20:36 2010 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 15:20:36 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Birthday DMH Message-ID: I took the Black and White car for a blast yesterday, and again today. Happy Birthday Donald, and thank you for all the fun, excitement and wonderful people you've introduced me to over the past 30 years! Sincerely. Chris www.myaustinhealey.com Sent from my iPhone From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sun Jul 4 00:30:03 2010 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 07:30:03 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Bumpers Message-ID: <000001cb1b42$572e3a70$058aaf50$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Has anyone bought a (rear) bumper from SC Parts in the UK? Was it one of the weedy Taiwanese specials or was it OK? Thanks, Simon From scthomton at yahoo.com Sun Jul 4 06:46:00 2010 From: scthomton at yahoo.com (Steve Thomton) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 05:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation In-Reply-To: <000b01cb13a8$c0ce2540$426a6fc0$@ca> Message-ID: <386930.42202.qm@web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> PG said "If you get a hardtop from Nical or Cape, make sure it is assembled..........it's a brutal job." Oh so true. I'm planning a project paper for my website sometime after the Galena Conclave. I assembled my BJ7/BJ8 Nical Eng. hardtop about a month ago. While I can't make the job easier for you, I might be able to help you attack some of the challenges. If you already have assembled yours I'd be interested in anything you may have learned. Whether they are original or Nical, I'm also interested in how BJ7/BJ8 hardtops fit. All the hardtops I've seen, including the orginals, have some fit issues around the side windows. Please send them off-list. Cheers, Steve htttp://stevesaustinhealey --- On Thu, 6/24/10, PG wrote: From: PG Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation To: "'Curt/Nancy Arndt'" , "'Robert D. Hughes'" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 8:23 AM If you get a hardtop from Nical or Cape, make sure it is assembled..........it's a brutal job. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Curt/Nancy Arndt Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:51 AM To: Robert D. Hughes Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation Robert, Why not check out Nical Engineering. Very nice replicas of the original hardtops. http://www.nicalengineering.co.uk/ Cheers, Curt On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Robert D. Hughes wrote: > In the August 2010 issue of "Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car" there is an > article about the > convertible top removal and hardtop installation on a BJ8. 10 photos and a > short article. > In the article, Smooth Line (www.smoothline.com) is mentioned as > manufacturing > reproduction hardtops. Anybody have one of these hardtops? Quality? > > Robert Hughes > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/scthomton at yahoo.com From scthomton at yahoo.com Sun Jul 4 06:46:00 2010 From: scthomton at yahoo.com (Steve Thomton) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 05:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation In-Reply-To: <000b01cb13a8$c0ce2540$426a6fc0$@ca> Message-ID: <386930.42202.qm@web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> PG said "If you get a hardtop from Nical or Cape, make sure it is assembled..........it's a brutal job." Oh so true. I'm planning a project paper for my website sometime after the Galena Conclave. I assembled my BJ7/BJ8 Nical Eng. hardtop about a month ago. While I can't make the job easier for you, I might be able to help you attack some of the challenges. If you already have assembled yours I'd be interested in anything you may have learned. Whether they are original or Nical, I'm also interested in how BJ7/BJ8 hardtops fit. All the hardtops I've seen, including the orginals, have some fit issues around the side windows. Please send them off-list. Cheers, Steve htttp://stevesaustinhealey --- On Thu, 6/24/10, PG wrote: From: PG Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation To: "'Curt/Nancy Arndt'" , "'Robert D. Hughes'" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 8:23 AM If you get a hardtop from Nical or Cape, make sure it is assembled..........it's a brutal job. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Curt/Nancy Arndt Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:51 AM To: Robert D. Hughes Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation Robert, Why not check out Nical Engineering. Very nice replicas of the original hardtops. http://www.nicalengineering.co.uk/ Cheers, Curt On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Robert D. Hughes wrote: > In the August 2010 issue of "Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car" there is an > article about the > convertible top removal and hardtop installation on a BJ8. 10 photos and a > short article. > In the article, Smooth Line (www.smoothline.com) is mentioned as > manufacturing > reproduction hardtops. Anybody have one of these hardtops? Quality? > > Robert Hughes > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/scthomton at yahoo.com From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Sun Jul 4 07:16:22 2010 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (gilbert gauthier) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 09:16:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top Message-ID: <39FA7BAF-8592-40AE-9C1E-FFE85804F7A0@cgocable.ca> I was questionning myself concerning the difference in the habitacle 's temp. when the exterior weather is above 30C or 90F between the hardtop top or the soft top installed Which configuration do you think will be less warm considering no side screen install ? Gilbert http://web.me.com/healeyfan53/M From ah53 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 4 10:04:42 2010 From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 09:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top In-Reply-To: <39FA7BAF-8592-40AE-9C1E-FFE85804F7A0@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: <188441.62076.qm@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My guess would be the hardtop if it were painted a light color i.e. white. I do say this without any first hand experience. Joe BN1 #923 coronet cream BN2 100M BJ8 aka The Blue Baby as per wife and kid --- On Sun, 7/4/10, gilbert gauthier wrote: From: gilbert gauthier Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top To: "Healey List" Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 9:16 AM I was questionning myself concerning the difference in the habitacle 's temp. when the exterior weather is above 30C or 90F between the hardtop top or the soft top installed Which configuration do you think will be less warm considering no side screen install ? Gilbert http://web.me.com/healeyfan53/M _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah53 at yahoo.com From britishcars at shaw.ca Sun Jul 4 10:09:47 2010 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 09:09:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top In-Reply-To: <39FA7BAF-8592-40AE-9C1E-FFE85804F7A0@cgocable.ca> References: <39FA7BAF-8592-40AE-9C1E-FFE85804F7A0@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: <000601cb1b93$53660b10$fa322130$@ca> I have a capesport hardtop. If you're comparing the hardtop to the soft-top (in "up" position), I would say the hardtop is cooler....just the fact that it's painted white makes a difference. Also, the hardtop's fiberglass does not retain the heat whereas the vinyl soft-top does. I have a BJ8 so I use the sidevent windows to keep the air flowing....I also have the Works hardtop vent which makes a significant difference. Paul -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gilbert gauthier Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 6:16 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top I was questionning myself concerning the difference in the habitacle 's temp. when the exterior weather is above 30C or 90F between the hardtop top or the soft top installed Which configuration do you think will be less warm considering no side screen install ? Gilbert http://web.me.com/healeyfan53/M _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jul 4 10:15:43 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 12:15:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top In-Reply-To: <39FA7BAF-8592-40AE-9C1E-FFE85804F7A0@cgocable.ca> References: <39FA7BAF-8592-40AE-9C1E-FFE85804F7A0@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: Gilbert, I think the answer will depend a lot on what the colours of the hardtop and the soft top. A light coloured hardtop I think will be cooler over all than a soft top. There is a bit of insulating quality in the layers of a hard top with exterior painted fibreglass, then an air space inside before the off white head liner. Rich -------------------------------------------------- From: "gilbert gauthier" Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:16 AM To: "Healey List" Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top > I was questionning myself concerning the difference in > the habitacle 's temp. when the exterior weather is above 30C or 90F > between the hardtop top or the soft top installed > > Which configuration do you think will be less warm considering no side > screen install ? > > > > Gilbert > http://web.me.com/healeyfan53/M > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Jul 4 10:19:10 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZXllcmEzQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==?=) Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 09:19:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?Hardtop_vs_Soft_Top?= Message-ID: <4c30b470.545ae50a.1ca5.3a1b@mx.google.com> Hard top is hotter mhi Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Please excuse typos Ira Erbs DIGS-4 Solutions. IT Consulting ----- Reply message ----- From: "gilbert gauthier" Date: Sun, Jul 4, 2010 6:16 am Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top To: "Healey List" I was questionning myself concerning the difference in the habitacle 's temp. when the exterior weather is above 30C or 90F between the hardtop top or the soft top installed Which configuration do you think will be less warm considering no side screen install ? Gilbert http://web.me.com/healeyfan53/M _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From ruvino at ripnet.com Sun Jul 4 12:46:45 2010 From: ruvino at ripnet.com (Dr. C. Rubino) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 14:46:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] coolant smell Message-ID: <3C551B3CB0454A58ABAC2527B93A0E63@RubinoPC> When I start the car up in the garage or when I pull into the garage I smell the faint smell of coolant (sickly sweet). Don't smell it when driving. No sign of a leak. Level doesn't seem to be going down. Any suggestions? Carl BN-4(L) From pyoas at yahoo.com Sun Jul 4 13:16:56 2010 From: pyoas at yahoo.com (Patrick Yoas) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation Message-ID: <292906.95672.qm@web112517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Curt & Steve, I don't believe you can get the Hardtop preassembled, and wouldn't want to, because each car is different and each Top must be fitted to each individual car. Patrick '67 BJ8 W/ Nical Hardtop Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation To: 'Curt/Nancy Arndt' , "'Robert D. Hughes'" , PG , List Healey Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Message-ID: <386930.42202.qm at web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" PG said "If you get a hardtop from Nical or Cape, make sure it is assembled..........it's a brutal job." Oh so true. I'm planning a project paper for my website sometime after the Galena Conclave. I assembled my BJ7/BJ8 Nical Eng. hardtop about a month ago. While I can't make the job easier for you, I might be able to help you attack some of the challenges. If you already have assembled yours I'd be interested in anything you may have learned. Whether they are original or Nical, I'm also interested in how BJ7/BJ8 hardtops fit. All the hardtops I've seen, including the orginals, have some fit issues around the side windows. Please send them off-list. Cheers, Steve htttp://stevesaustinhealey From autofarm at cyg.net Sun Jul 4 13:36:12 2010 From: autofarm at cyg.net (Bob Yule) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 15:36:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] coolant smell References: <3C551B3CB0454A58ABAC2527B93A0E63@RubinoPC> Message-ID: <1DBD1CB3DA2948FC9CE8F5B8E9A78E1A@OFFICE> Carl, you will have a leak somewhere in the heater. Either a hose connection, the valve or the core itself. Cheers.......Bob Check out our web site www.autofarm.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. C. Rubino" To: "healeylist" Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 2:46 PM Subject: [Healeys] coolant smell > When I start the car up in the garage or when I pull into the garage I > smell > the faint smell of coolant (sickly sweet). Don't smell it when driving. No > sign of a leak. Level doesn't seem to be going down. > > Any suggestions? > > Carl > BN-4(L) > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/autofarm at cyg.net From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jul 4 13:38:32 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 19:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] coolant smell In-Reply-To: <3C551B3CB0454A58ABAC2527B93A0E63@RubinoPC> Message-ID: <745186141.75686.1278272312358.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> My unscientific guess: You've got a slight leak somewhere, small enough that it evaporates before it hits the ground. You probably won't notice the coolant level drop--unless you're checking very carefully with a dipstick--until you've lost a pint or two. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. C. Rubino" To: "healeylist" Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2010 11:46:45 AM Subject: [Healeys] coolant smell When I start the car up in the garage or when I pull into the garage I smell the faint smell of coolant (sickly sweet). Don't smell it when driving. No sign of a leak. Level doesn't seem to be going down. Any suggestions? Carl BN-4(L) From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Sun Jul 4 14:48:25 2010 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 16:48:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top In-Reply-To: <39FA7BAF-8592-40AE-9C1E-FFE85804F7A0@cgocable.ca> References: <39FA7BAF-8592-40AE-9C1E-FFE85804F7A0@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: IMHO, the soft top because you can unzip the rear window for "flow through" cooling. However, I pretty much never put the top up without unzipping the rear window, but if you leave the window zipped, well... Bob Johnson BJ8 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:16 AM, gilbert gauthier wrote: > I was questionning myself concerning the difference in the > habitacle 's temp. when the exterior weather is above 30C or 90F between > the hardtop top or the soft top installed > > Which configuration do you think will be less warm considering no side > screen install ? From healey at hunterbane.com Sun Jul 4 15:32:08 2010 From: healey at hunterbane.com (Olin Brimberry) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 17:32:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top Message-ID: <7D0C5B9A-3F00-439D-A07E-17126C365AAA@hunterbane.com> I would say that the addition of the ralley vent in the HT would help tremendously. Olin Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 09:19:10 -0700 From: " eyera3 at gmail.com " Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top To: " gilbert gauthier " ," Healey List " Message-ID: <4c30b470.545ae50a.1ca5.3a1b at mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hard top is hotter mhi Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Please excuse typos Ira Erbs DIGS-4 Solutions. IT Consulting ----- Reply message ----- From: "gilbert gauthier" Date: Sun, Jul 4, 2010 6:16 am Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top To: "Healey List" I was questionning myself concerning the difference in the habitacle 's temp. when the exterior weather is above 30C or 90F between the hardtop top or the soft top installed Which configuration do you think will be less warm considering no side screen install ? Gilbert http://web.me.com/healeyfan53/M _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From editorgary at aol.com Sun Jul 4 16:37:36 2010 From: editorgary at aol.com (editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:37:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 4, Issue 442 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCE9E0A28F065E-F28-30F4F@webmail-m081.sysops.aol.com> Without the little duct that was installed on the rally cars to release air out the back, the hard-top is extremely stuffy in hot weather. However, in cold and rain, it's really worthwhile. Install the rear air duct, and a second means to get fresh air into the passenger footwell, and the top is very comfortable. Gary Which configuration do you think will be less warm considering no side screen install ? -----Original Message----- From: healeys-request at autox.team.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Jul 4, 2010 11:00 am Subject: Healeys Digest, Vol 4, Issue 442 Send Healeys mailing list submissions to healeys at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to healeys-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at healeys-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hardtop vs Soft Top ( eyera3 at gmail.com ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 09:19:10 -0700 From: " eyera3 at gmail.com " Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top To: " gilbert gauthier " ," Healey List " Message-ID: <4c30b470.545ae50a.1ca5.3a1b at mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hard top is hotter mhi Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Please excuse typos Ira Erbs DIGS-4 Solutions. IT Consulting ----- Reply message ----- From: "gilbert gauthier" Date: Sun, Jul 4, 2010 6:16 am Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top To: "Healey List" I was questionning myself concerning the difference in the habitacle 's temp. when the exterior weather is above 30C or 90F between the hardtop top or the soft top installed Which configuration do you think will be less warm considering no side screen install ? Gilbert http://web.me.com/healeyfan53/M _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Healeys mailing list Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys End of Healeys Digest, Vol 4, Issue 442 *************************************** From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Sun Jul 4 19:15:22 2010 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (gilbert gauthier) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 21:15:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top In-Reply-To: <9812348E-F040-4E88-89D3-CB716FE793C2@cgocable.ca> References: <39FA7BAF-8592-40AE-9C1E-FFE85804F7A0@cgocable.ca> <65058A6B-4A05-42F7-8817-F62A6E86567C@cgocable.ca> <3EFE51C3-6565-460B-B457-1378E873666F@gmail.com> <9812348E-F040-4E88-89D3-CB716FE793C2@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: > Thanks to all for your comments and happy 4th of july > After discussion wih Line and all the answers we > receive we will do the ride with the hardop but presenly we are in > the process of blocking most of the litlle space where the hot air > is coming from the engine lets try that and we will see. If it not > ok i wil leave the hardtop somewhere on our way .......to Galena > > Wishing a safe trip to all coming down there > > > > Gilbert From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 4 20:36:36 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:36:36 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vs Soft Top In-Reply-To: References: <39FA7BAF-8592-40AE-9C1E-FFE85804F7A0@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: <4C314534.4030601@justbrits.com> FINALLY [Thank you, Bob J. ] !! << IMHO, the soft top because you can unzip the rear window for "flow through" cooling. >> I have been doing almost the same thing [BJ-7 have to be un- clipped if still as org] the for decades !!!! The difference is simply amazing !!! For those of you that DO some serious roadster traveling, I have been having hoods made WITH zippers !!! Yes, I AM well aware it is not Concours correct, but for REAL traveling, you 7 wife [ooops, GF or kid(s)] would be as described !! Cut my passenger "commenting" to next to zero !! LOL << However, I pretty much never put the top up without unzipping the rear window, but if you leave the window zipped, well... >> Er Bob, guess you haven't been caught in either a bad enough RAIN storm, or better yet in a SNOW storm [as I have several times] !! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] From britishcars at shaw.ca Sun Jul 4 21:31:41 2010 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 20:31:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation In-Reply-To: <292906.95672.qm@web112517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <292906.95672.qm@web112517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000a01cb1bf2$95cb10e0$c16132a0$@ca> Actually you can get them preassembled and the majority of Cape International cars do come preassembled. I finished assembling my Cape Hardtop last month and I don't think that I've ever done any job more frustrating or difficult. With respect to tailoring your hardtop to your car, I don't believe you do get an advantage..... I would not assemble one again. paul -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Yoas Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 12:17 PM To: Healey Forum Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation Curt & Steve, I don't believe you can get the Hardtop preassembled, and wouldn't want to, because each car is different and each Top must be fitted to each individual car. Patrick '67 BJ8 W/ Nical Hardtop Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation To: 'Curt/Nancy Arndt' , "'Robert D. Hughes'" , PG , List Healey Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Message-ID: <386930.42202.qm at web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" PG said "If you get a hardtop from Nical or Cape, make sure it is assembled..........it's a brutal job." Oh so true. I'm planning a project paper for my website sometime after the Galena Conclave. I assembled my BJ7/BJ8 Nical Eng. hardtop about a month ago. While I can't make the job easier for you, I might be able to help you attack some of the challenges. If you already have assembled yours I'd be interested in anything you may have learned. Whether they are original or Nical, I'm also interested in how BJ7/BJ8 hardtops fit. All the hardtops I've seen, including the orginals, have some fit issues around the side windows. Please send them off-list. Cheers, Steve htttp://stevesaustinhealey _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca From scthomton at yahoo.com Mon Jul 5 06:18:06 2010 From: scthomton at yahoo.com (Steve Thomton) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 05:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation In-Reply-To: <000a01cb1bf2$95cb10e0$c16132a0$@ca> Message-ID: <222953.51065.qm@web54407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Patrick and Paul, did your hardtops come with any hold downs in the back? I recently saw an original and it had a center hold down on the back edge. I had already made two for mine since I didn't feel just the two side hold downs were enough to keep the back sealed. Steve --- On Sun, 7/4/10, PG wrote: From: PG Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation To: "'Patrick Yoas'" , "'Healey Forum'" Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 9:31 PM Actually you can get them preassembled and the majority of Cape International cars do come preassembled. I finished assembling my Cape Hardtop last month and I don't think that I've ever done any job more frustrating or difficult. With respect to tailoring your hardtop to your car, I don't believe you do get an advantage..... I would not assemble one again. paul -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Yoas Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 12:17 PM To: Healey Forum Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation Curt & Steve, I don't believe you can get the Hardtop preassembled, and wouldn't want to, because each car is different and each Top must be fitted to each individual car. Patrick '67 BJ8 W/ Nical Hardtop Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation To: 'Curt/Nancy Arndt' , "'Robert D. Hughes'" , PG , List Healey Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Message-ID: <386930.42202.qm at web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" PG said "If you get a hardtop from Nical or Cape, make sure it is assembled..........it's a brutal job." Oh so true. I'm planning a project paper for my website sometime after the Galena Conclave. I assembled my BJ7/BJ8 Nical Eng. hardtop about a month ago. While I can't make the job easier for you, I might be able to help you attack some of the challenges. If you already have assembled yours I'd be interested in anything you may have learned. Whether they are original or Nical, I'm also interested in how BJ7/BJ8 hardtops fit. All the hardtops I've seen, including the orginals, have some fit issues around the side windows. Please send them off-list. Cheers, Steve htttp://stevesaustinhealey _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/scthomton at yahoo.com From bighealey at astound.net Mon Jul 5 07:53:14 2010 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 06:53:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] HELP - No Clutch Message-ID: <6846893B2DF145A09286233B4A87EBFB@JohnSoderling> On the way home to Walnut Creek, Ca from a great week at Healey Rendezvous 2010 in Eugene, Oregon, I lost my clutch ( actually it was Erika the Red, my 100-six that lost her clutch) about 150 miles from home. When I checked the dual outlet clutch/brake tank, the clutch system had pumped additional fluid back into the tank to where it actually overflowed a little. So is it more likely a failed master cylinder or slave cylinder? I'm thinking the master, but not sure. Thanks. Vrooom vrooom, John From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Jul 5 09:14:19 2010 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 08:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] HELP - No Clutch In-Reply-To: <6846893B2DF145A09286233B4A87EBFB@JohnSoderling> Message-ID: <507187.27175.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Wonder if it could be the rubber slave cylinder hose swollen shut? If you need a new cylinder, try Pegasus Racing, their prices on Girling parts are much better than the usual suspects. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Mon, 7/5/10, John Soderling wrote: From: John Soderling Subject: [Healeys] HELP - No Clutch To: "Healey list" Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 9:53 AM On the way home to Walnut Creek, Ca from a great week at Healey Rendezvous 2010 in Eugene, Oregon, I lost my clutch ( actually it was Erika the Red, my 100-six that lost her clutch) about 150 miles from home. When I checked the dual outlet clutch/brake tank, the clutch system had pumped additional fluid back into the tank to where it actually overflowed a little. So is it more likely a failed master cylinder or slave cylinder? I'm thinking the master, but not sure. Thanks. Vrooom vrooom, John _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Mon Jul 5 09:32:04 2010 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 10:32:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] HELP - No Clutch In-Reply-To: <6846893B2DF145A09286233B4A87EBFB@JohnSoderling> References: <6846893B2DF145A09286233B4A87EBFB@JohnSoderling> Message-ID: john, possible bad slave cyl hose. jerry On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:53 AM, John Soderling wrote: > On the way home to Walnut Creek, Ca from a great week at Healey Rendezvous > 2010 in Eugene, Oregon, I lost my clutch ( actually it was Erika the Red, > my > 100-six that lost her clutch) about 150 miles from home. When I checked > the > dual outlet clutch/brake tank, the clutch system had pumped additional > fluid > back into the tank to where it actually overflowed a little. > > So is it more likely a failed master cylinder or slave cylinder? I'm > thinking > the master, but not sure. Thanks. > > Vrooom vrooom, > John > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jul 5 09:38:10 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:38:10 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] HELP - No Clutch In-Reply-To: <6846893B2DF145A09286233B4A87EBFB@JohnSoderling> References: <6846893B2DF145A09286233B4A87EBFB@JohnSoderling> Message-ID: <4C31FC62.2040308@chello.nl> John, Just clean and rebuild both the slave and master cylinder using new seals. Clean up the bores with wet&dry 1000 or hone them. If the bores are not perfectly smooth any more, renew them, they are cheap items. A relatively simple job. If one is gone the other is not far away from failure either. Kees Oudesluijs NL John Soderling wrote: > On the way home to Walnut Creek, Ca from a great week at Healey Rendezvous > 2010 in Eugene, Oregon, I lost my clutch ( actually it was Erika the Red, my > 100-six that lost her clutch) about 150 miles from home. When I checked the > dual outlet clutch/brake tank, the clutch system had pumped additional fluid > back into the tank to where it actually overflowed a little. > > So is it more likely a failed master cylinder or slave cylinder? I'm thinking > the master, but not sure. Thanks. > > Vrooom vrooom, > John > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2983 - datum van uitgifte: 07/05/10 08:36:00 From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 5 10:26:02 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 09:26:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] HELP - No Clutch In-Reply-To: <6846893B2DF145A09286233B4A87EBFB@JohnSoderling> References: <6846893B2DF145A09286233B4A87EBFB@JohnSoderling> Message-ID: <4C32079A.9070800@comcast.net> There's a spring-loaded rubber seal on the end of the pistons on brake and clutch M/Cs. This allows fluid from the reservoir to enter the system when the piston is out, but needs to seal off the pipe to the reservoir when you press the pedal. If this fails you might get the symptoms you describe (I've had it happen on a brake M/C, but not a clutch M/C). Have someone work the pedal while you watch the fluid level--if it rises when your helper presses the clutch pedal this is likely your problem. What puzzles me, however, is where the 'extra' fluid is coming from--possibly, the fluid was sucked from the circuit to the slave cylinder. If the M/C is otherwise in good shape--i.e. no pitting--you should be able to get by with a rebuild kit. If not, and your M/C is aluminum, a resleeving or new cylinder is in order. bs John Soderling wrote: > On the way home to Walnut Creek, Ca from a great week at Healey Rendezvous > 2010 in Eugene, Oregon, I lost my clutch ( actually it was Erika the Red, my > 100-six that lost her clutch) about 150 miles from home. When I checked the > dual outlet clutch/brake tank, the clutch system had pumped additional fluid > back into the tank to where it actually overflowed a little. > > So is it more likely a failed master cylinder or slave cylinder? I'm thinking > the master, but not sure. Thanks. > > Vrooom vrooom, > John > _______________________________________________ > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 5 10:51:46 2010 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 12:51:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 for sale Message-ID: FOR SALE: 1961 Austin Healey 3000 BT7. H-BT7-L/13095. Located in Lancaster, PA. Abanonded project/ barn find. The car had been sitting in a dry barn in Dillsburg, PA for the last 23 years. During the mid 80's Ladd Motors had completed the metal work and body work prior to the cars storage. Description: I have a good title in my name. Also have Heritage Cert. Car was originally delivered to The Netherlands in the Colorado Red color. The metal work and body work that is done was typical for the type of work being done at the time (80's). Many of the replacement panels were fabricated. Beads were placed in the panels for strength (boot floor) and the main floors actually resembled original floor pans. The body is fairly straight and wouldn't take too much to get it ready for paint. It really depends what you intend to get out of the car. As is it would make a really cool "rat rod" Austin Healey. Someone could work on some of the panel fit, finish up the body work and make a nice driver out of it. Or maybe someone wants to do a ground up and make it a real nice car. The options are all there. The frame is in really good shape with the exception of some localized rust through in the very front frame horns where the sway bar mounts attach. Also a small area on the one side of the inner sill. Frame looks very straight as well. The engine compartment and the cockpit areas were both painted Healey Blue. The front suspension and parts of the frame were painted black and look pretty clean. Wheels are rusty and while the tires hold air they are very old and dry rotted. Engine is free, but would require a rebuild. The head was off and the cylinders have typical wear (finger nail catches on the top ridge of the bore) and the bottom of the tappets show wear. The engine is a BJ8 engine and the gearbox is correct for the car (side shift). Angle drive is broken. Gauges are all there and appear to be in good shape. Trafficator is really only good for parts. Gas tank appears good. Parts missing: BJ8 intake manifold and HD8 carbs. Front drivers seat, passenger seat bottom, both rear seat pans and rear seat back. Thermostat housing. Distributor. Soft top header rail. Side curtains. Contact Shawn at stmiller96 at hotmail.com Will send pictures $8,000.00 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Jul 5 10:56:54 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 12:56:54 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Heating and cooling Message-ID: In a message dated 7/5/10 7:32:02 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > After discussion wih Line and all the answers we > > receive we will do the ride with the hardop but presenly we are in > > the process of blocking most of the litlle space where the hot air > > is coming from the engine lets try that and we will see. If it not > > ok i wil leave the hardtop somewhere on our way .......to Galena > Sealing off the heat from the engine is an important ingredient in cool running, but equally important, especially with the hard top, is cool air coming in from the front of the car into the cockpit passenger side. Haven't seen this suggestion for awhile, but for long-distance travel in the past, I've had enormous success by buying a clothes drying corrugated heating duct (plastic or aluminum foil) about six feet long. Then, remove the panel in the passenger footwell that blocks the firewall hole for the right-hand side steering column. (it just unscrews). Run the duct from the front grille through the engine compartment to that hole and use copious amounts of duct tape at both ends to tape it in place. You won't believe the difference on the passenger side, with cool air blowing directly into the footwell. Once you arrive, the mod can easily be reversed for show, and then re-installed before driving hom. Travel safe. Gary From rchaskell at earthlink.net Mon Jul 5 11:53:55 2010 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:53:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100 fuel pump mount screws Message-ID: <4C321C33.50607@earthlink.net> Listers, The fuel pump mounting screws are part number 6K 9431. What's the thread? 1/4 BSF? Cheers, Bob From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Mon Jul 5 12:43:25 2010 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 14:43:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] HELP - No Clutch In-Reply-To: <6846893B2DF145A09286233B4A87EBFB@JohnSoderling> References: <6846893B2DF145A09286233B4A87EBFB@JohnSoderling> Message-ID: Hi John, A couple of things. First if the level in the reservoir has risen it is very unlikely that you have a leak!! Leaks cause the level to drop. I would be suspicious that something has happened to the release mechanism which has caused the slave cylinder piston to have travelled to the bottom of its bore thus pushing fluid back to the reservoir. Secondly NEVER attack the bore of any aluminium hydraulic cylinder with any sort of abrasive. The bores of these cylinders are anodized to produce a hard wear resistant surface. Abrasives will very quickly remove this coating and expose the soft underlying aluminium. Such cylinders will only work for a short time before seal failure. Michael Salter On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:53 AM, John Soderling wrote: > On the way home to Walnut Creek, Ca from a great week at Healey Rendezvous > 2010 in Eugene, Oregon, I lost my clutch ( actually it was Erika the Red, my > 100-six that lost her clutch) about 150 miles from home. When I checked the > dual outlet clutch/brake tank, the clutch system had pumped additional fluid > back into the tank to where it actually overflowed a little. > > So is it more likely a failed master cylinder or slave cylinder? I'm thinking > the master, but not sure. Thanks. > > Vrooom vrooom, > John > _ From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 5 13:14:50 2010 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 12:14:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Welcome home Message-ID: <3D3AA295-755D-4417-A0DE-86417B42DC9B@sbcglobal.net> I would like to welcome home all those that were at Healey Rendezvous in Oregon last week. Heard you all had a great time. Waiting to see all the pictures. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jul 5 16:54:21 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 18:54:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100 fuel pump mount screws In-Reply-To: <4C321C33.50607@earthlink.net> References: <4C321C33.50607@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <080FCEE4F50C4AC7B1D46817F2CD09B9@LIFEBOOK> Bob, Yes, the fuel pump mounting bolts should be 1/4" BSF thread. Rich -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob Haskell" Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 1:53 PM To: Subject: [Healeys] 100 fuel pump mount screws > Listers, > > The fuel pump mounting screws are part number 6K 9431. What's the > thread? 1/4 BSF? > > Cheers, > Bob From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Mon Jul 5 17:00:06 2010 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] How to test the flaser relay DB-10? In-Reply-To: <3D3AA295-755D-4417-A0DE-86417B42DC9B@sbcglobal.net> References: <3D3AA295-755D-4417-A0DE-86417B42DC9B@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <636341.77713.qm@web54105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Does anyone know how to test the flaser relay ?? Moss parts # 141-400 Lucas DB-10 I want to test it before installing it in the car. Also how do I remove the lid ?? Thanks, Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: David Nock To: Healey List List Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 2:14:50 PM Subject: [Healeys] Welcome home I would like to welcome home all those that were at Healey Rendezvous in Oregon last week. Heard you all had a great time. Waiting to see all the pictures. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Mon Jul 5 17:35:14 2010 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:35:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] over drive for sale Message-ID: first to the list. several years ago i found that my BJ8 had a BJ7 tranny in it. a lister was kind enough to sell me the tranny and OD that came out of his car when he installed a smitty Supra conversion. i used that gear box in my BJ8 and sold the BJ7 tranny to another lister. i would now like to sell the OD that came out of the other BJ8. it was reported to be in good working order when removed. FOB Los Angeles ron rader From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jul 5 18:02:23 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 20:02:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] How to test the flaser relay DB-10? In-Reply-To: <636341.77713.qm@web54105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <3D3AA295-755D-4417-A0DE-86417B42DC9B@sbcglobal.net> <636341.77713.qm@web54105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5C0EE1ABA1944BF48E4255C724C8AD68@LIFEBOOK> Jose, There is a complete instruction about all this in the 6 cylinder manuals, whereas they skip over it in the four cylinder manuals. rich -------------------------------------------------- From: "Josi Vicente Vargas" Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 7:00 PM To: "Healey List List" Subject: [Healeys] How to test the flaser relay DB-10? > Does anyone know how to test the flaser relay ?? > > Moss parts # 141-400 > Lucas > DB-10 > > I want to test it before installing it in the car. > Also how do I remove > the lid ?? > > Thanks, Josi Vicente Vargas > Musmi > > > Tel. (571) 321 3740 > Cel. (57) > 311 288 3401 > Skype: jovivago > > > www.musme.net > > > Bogota, Colombia > ________________________________ > From: David Nock > To: Healey List List > Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 2:14:50 > PM > Subject: [Healeys] Welcome home > > I would like to welcome home all those > that were at Healey Rendezvous > in Oregon last week. Heard you all had a > great time. > Waiting to see all the pictures. > > > > > > David Nock > British Car > Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . > . > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From pennell at cox.net Mon Jul 5 18:44:07 2010 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 20:44:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Heating and cooling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100705204407.7JZ7U.985442.imail@eastrmwml34> Gary, Don't know if the attached pix will reach you or the rest of the list but they show the mod I made to "Patches". Basically the driver side duct feeds a cold air box now. The butterfly valve was fitted to a special homemade "Y" cannister to feed air on the passenger side. Now air can run straight through as fresh air or be diverted to the heater blower for heating. Inside the cockpit on the firewall are mounted two 2" flexible hoses to aim air at the passenger and to the driver. See attached pix. Keith ---- Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/5/10 7:32:02 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > > > After discussion wih Line and all the answers we > > > receive we will do the ride with the hardop but presenly we are in > > > the process of blocking most of the litlle space where the hot air > > > is coming from the engine lets try that and we will see. If it not > > > ok i wil leave the hardtop somewhere on our way .......to Galena > > > Sealing off the heat from the engine is an important ingredient in cool > running, but equally important, especially with the hard top, is cool air > coming in from the front of the car into the cockpit passenger side. Haven't > seen > this suggestion for awhile, but for long-distance travel in the past, I've > had enormous success by buying a clothes drying corrugated heating duct > (plastic or aluminum foil) about six feet long. Then, remove the panel in the > passenger footwell that blocks the firewall hole for the right-hand side > steering column. (it just unscrews). Run the duct from the front grille > through > the engine compartment to that hole and use copious amounts of duct tape at > both ends to tape it in place. > You won't believe the difference on the passenger side, with cool air > blowing directly into the footwell. Once you arrive, the mod can easily be > reversed for show, and then re-installed before driving hom. > > Travel safe. > Gary [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of Patches engine 3-05.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of Patches engine 7-04.jpg] From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 5 18:45:53 2010 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 20:45:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Confirmation Needed Message-ID: <001801cb1ca4$97048060$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> If this gets to the list could some one let me know by confirming it to my email address. I can't get anything from the list for some reason. Can some one let me know if my setting should be set to "plain" or Mime for the list. Thanks, Mark From fietts02 at aol.com Mon Jul 5 20:13:51 2010 From: fietts02 at aol.com (fietts02 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 22:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation Message-ID: I had a Nical and Cape top at the same time and the Cape top came assembled while the Nical top had to be assembled. In comparison , the Cape top is not to complete original specs, but had some much improved use of materials and design. The Nical top is as original with original hold downs etc. Even with the slight differences, both tops were great additions to the respective cars. Ken In a message dated 7/5/2010 12:03:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, britishcars at shaw.ca writes: Actually you can get them preassembled and the majority of Cape International cars do come preassembled. I finished assembling my Cape Hardtop last month and I don't think that I've ever done any job more frustrating or difficult. With respect to tailoring your hardtop to your car, I don't believe you do get an advantage..... I would not assemble one again. paul -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Yoas Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 12:17 PM To: Healey Forum Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation Curt & Steve, I don't believe you can get the Hardtop preassembled, and wouldn't want to, because each car is different and each Top must be fitted to each individual car. Patrick '67 BJ8 W/ Nical Hardtop Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 hardtop installation To: 'Curt/Nancy Arndt' , "'Robert D. Hughes'" , PG , List Healey Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Message-ID: <386930.42202.qm at web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" PG said "If you get a hardtop from Nical or Cape, make sure it is assembled..........it's a brutal job." Oh so true. I'm planning a project paper for my website sometime after the Galena Conclave. I assembled my BJ7/BJ8 Nical Eng. hardtop about a month ago. While I can't make the job easier for you, I might be able to help you attack some of the challenges. If you already have assembled yours I'd be interested in anything you may have learned. Whether they are original or Nical, I'm also interested in how BJ7/BJ8 hardtops fit. All the hardtops I've seen, including the orginals, have some fit issues around the side windows. Please send them off-list. Cheers, Steve htttp://stevesaustinhealey _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fietts02 at aol.com From mark at bradakis.com Mon Jul 5 20:32:43 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 20:32:43 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Healeys] ATT Troubles Message-ID: <20100706023243.467C62E0CB@bradakis.com> Those of you who have email that gets routed in various ways through AT&T, like att.net, sbcglobal.net, pacbell, etc. Have most likely not seen any Team.Net email for a few days. For some reason AT&T was blocking Team.Net. I have no idea why, what started it, and you folks don't pay me enough to waste a day on the phone sifting through an endless stream of clueless "tech support" drones to find out why. I have gotten the block removed and am in the process of getting the effected addresses back into normal operation. Thank you for your patience. mjb. From jimf at frakes-eng.com Mon Jul 5 20:36:04 2010 From: jimf at frakes-eng.com (Frakes, Jim) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 22:36:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] DMH Happy Birthday Message-ID: For DMH' birthday, we took the BJ8 for a 105 mile ride, stopping in at a fellow Healey member to make a fix on his BT7, dropped in to an assisted living residence to take a former Healey owner for a 7 mile ride, lots of pix with his family and left him several Healey Marques to read, and a 2010 calendar. (He loved that!) His family says they will send in a membership just to get him the HM and calendar. Returning to home after a complete circle of I-465 around Indy, we took the newly rebuilt 100 out for its second ever outing, for another 10 miles. Salute to DMH! CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by telephone at the number listed above or by return e-mail. From eschulz at frontiernet.net Mon Jul 5 21:05:16 2010 From: eschulz at frontiernet.net (Elton Schulz) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 23:05:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Bonnet metal work Message-ID: <702528C35D784446B93AEBC1A0EC6A5A@655vb01> Fellow Listers, I'm restoring the bonnet (hood) on my BJ7. After stripping the paint, I'm getting metal deflection towards the center of the bonnet. It deflects when I push on it with my hand, but it then springs back. Is this normal or should I be concerned about this "oil canning" effect? I'm reluctant to attempt to heat shrink it. Thanks in advance for your opinions. Elton, BJ7 in progress From rwil at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 5 23:43:14 2010 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 22:43:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] testing re-emailing please ignore Message-ID: I turned off Healeys emails for a couple of weeks and seem to be having problems getting things back on track. Already got one bounce for some reason. I do check my spam file of rejected emails and have found no healeys posts. I hope I'll receive this one. -Roland From ssanders at midsouthinc.com Tue Jul 6 06:56:47 2010 From: ssanders at midsouthinc.com (Steve Sanders) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 07:56:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit Message-ID: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C> I need to purchase a new fuel gauge sending unit for my BT-7. Any experience from the list as to a good vendor? Thanks Steve Sanders 61 BT-7 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 6 07:01:25 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:01:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Evening drive short video - 2010-07-04 Message-ID: Well, I didn't know that DMH was having another birthday on the weekend, but I did have a 4 day weekend ( Canada day on Thurs., and a vacation day on Fri. ) and got a bit too much seat time in the sun on Friday. Probably the day with the most seat time since I got the car late last summer. I got a Healey tan. I'm a bit red faced over my neglect to wear sun block and I got a good tan from my knees up to the bottom of my shorts. My nose now has the texture of alligator hide. No pain, though. Despite that, I did get out for an evening drive with my visiting mother-in-law ( her first drive in this car ) and with a new digital camera, we tested it a bit, as I left the driveway. I posted the video on Facebook and am attempting to share it, though I don't know for sure that it works. I almost never use facebook, but I thought that I would give it a try. The sharing is set to 'everyone' for awhile. Next time I go on, I'll set it back to 'Friends only'. That'll probably be at least a week. What is it about the sound of these cars that pleases me so?! :) For those who want to know for sure where they're being forwarded to: http://preview.tinyurl.com/29dbomb For ED: http://tinyurl.com/29dbomb ( It gives me a smile that the tinyurl has DBomb in it. :) ) The full URL as sent to myself from Facebook is below. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg -----Original Message----- facebook Robert Duquette 3:53am Jul 6th Evening drive - 2010-07-04 [HD] MIL Healey drive Robert has shared a link to a video with you. To view the video or to reply to the message, follow this link: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=641900802&k=42DUY562WT6DYADEQKYU2UST2QB1Z U5&oid=1149473034449 From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 6 08:14:08 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:14:08 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit In-Reply-To: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C> References: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C> Message-ID: The one from NOS Locators on Ebay is cheap and good. Actually haven't heard complaints about anyone's fuel sender products, per se. On 7/6/10, Steve Sanders wrote: > I need to purchase a new fuel gauge sending unit for my BT-7. Any > experience > from the list as to a good vendor? > > Thanks > Steve Sanders > 61 BT-7 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From jobu53 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 6 09:04:06 2010 From: jobu53 at hotmail.com (Dan S) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 08:04:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit In-Reply-To: References: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C>, Message-ID: I bought one from NOS Locators and the float filled with gas after about 3 months. Purchased a rebult original from the Nock's Dan Serrao 1963 BJ7 Fountain Hills, AZ People who don't read the newspaper are uninformed, those who read the newspaper are misinformed........ Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:14:08 +0200 > From: healey.nut at gmail.com > To: ssanders at midsouthinc.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit > > The one from NOS Locators on Ebay is cheap and good. Actually haven't > heard complaints about anyone's fuel sender products, per se. > > On 7/6/10, Steve Sanders wrote: > > I need to purchase a new fuel gauge sending unit for my BT-7. Any > > experience > > from the list as to a good vendor? > > > > Thanks > > Steve Sanders > > 61 BT-7 > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jobu53 at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Jul 6 09:12:59 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:12:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit In-Reply-To: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C> References: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C> Message-ID: <05ea01cb1d1d$b911a6f0$2b34f4d0$@verizon.net> I got mine from Moss and it works well. Been in for two years now. They all probably come from the same shop in China. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Sanders Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:57 AM To: healey OwnersAutox Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit I need to purchase a new fuel gauge sending unit for my BT-7. Any experience from the list as to a good vendor? Thanks Steve Sanders 61 BT-7 From Healey100M at gmail.com Tue Jul 6 09:42:50 2010 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:42:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit In-Reply-To: References: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C>, Message-ID: <948B57F2-B74E-453B-968F-445A659A2DE4@gmail.com> I'm having trouble with one right now from NOS Locators. Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Jul 6, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Dan S wrote: > I bought one from NOS Locators and the float filled with gas after about 3 > months. Purchased a rebult original from the Nock's > > Dan Serrao > 1963 BJ7 > Fountain Hills, AZ > > People who don't read the newspaper are uninformed, those who read the > newspaper are misinformed........ Mark Twain > > > > >> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:14:08 +0200 >> From: healey.nut at gmail.com >> To: ssanders at midsouthinc.com; healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit >> >> The one from NOS Locators on Ebay is cheap and good. Actually haven't >> heard complaints about anyone's fuel sender products, per se. >> >> On 7/6/10, Steve Sanders wrote: >>> I need to purchase a new fuel gauge sending unit for my BT-7. Any >>> experience >>> from the list as to a good vendor? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Steve Sanders >>> 61 BT-7 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jobu53 at hotmail.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 > 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at gmail.com From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Tue Jul 6 10:15:22 2010 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 12:15:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit References: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C> <05ea01cb1d1d$b911a6f0$2b34f4d0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: In the FWIW category, NOS Locators now is advertising a fuel sending units with two electrical contacts on the float arm resistor. This is suppose to help with the erratic readings on these units. The NOS units do look reasonable well made, although all these current units have a plastic float. The lever arm needs to be bent up on the end of the circle where it encompasses the plastic float. This will keep the end of the wire from wearing a hole into the float. NOS Locaters also sells these on eBay under the same vendor name. Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sims" To: "'Steve Sanders'" ; "'healey OwnersAutox'" Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit >I got mine from Moss and it works well. Been in for two years now. They all > probably come from the same shop in China. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Steve Sanders > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:57 AM > To: healey OwnersAutox > Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit > > I need to purchase a new fuel gauge sending unit for my BT-7. Any > experience from the list as to a good vendor? > > Thanks > Steve Sanders > 61 BT-7 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dcongleton at embarqmail.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 6 10:46:23 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 18:46:23 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit In-Reply-To: <948B57F2-B74E-453B-968F-445A659A2DE4@gmail.com> References: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C> <948B57F2-B74E-453B-968F-445A659A2DE4@gmail.com> Message-ID: The trick with the NOS Locators one is to take a pair of pliers and bend the tip of the wire (that holds the float) away from the float - the tip can wear a hole in the plastic float. On 7/6/10, Randy Hicks wrote: > I'm having trouble with one right now from NOS Locators. > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100 M > '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > > On Jul 6, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Dan S wrote: > >> I bought one from NOS Locators and the float filled with gas after about 3 >> months. Purchased a rebult original from the Nock's >> >> Dan Serrao >> 1963 BJ7 >> Fountain Hills, AZ >> >> People who don't read the newspaper are uninformed, those who read the >> newspaper are misinformed........ Mark Twain >> >> >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:14:08 +0200 >>> From: healey.nut at gmail.com >>> To: ssanders at midsouthinc.com; healeys at autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit >>> >>> The one from NOS Locators on Ebay is cheap and good. Actually haven't >>> heard complaints about anyone's fuel sender products, per se. >>> >>> On 7/6/10, Steve Sanders wrote: >>>> I need to purchase a new fuel gauge sending unit for my BT-7. Any >>>> experience >>>> from the list as to a good vendor? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Steve Sanders >>>> 61 BT-7 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my mobile device >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jobu53 at hotmail.com >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with >> Hotmail. >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 >> 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at gmail.com > > -- Sent from my mobile device From rwil at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 6 10:59:42 2010 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:59:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] (fwd) Fwd: ATT Troubles Message-ID: Looks like my test email and ATT coming back to sanity were darned near simultaneous. Many thanks to Ron, Chris, Ed, Robert, Scott, Perry and anyone else whom I might have left out, for filling me in on the ATT problems that were just about synchronized with my time off the list. It is nice to see my Healeys inbox full again. -Roland On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:25:15 +1000, Chris Dimmock wrote: ::Hi Roland, see below for explanation :: ::Chris :: ::Sent from my iPhone :: ::Begin forwarded message: :: ::> From: Mark J Bradakis ::> Date: 6 July 2010 12:32:43 PM AEST ::> To: healeys at autox.team.net ::> Subject: [Healeys] ATT Troubles ::> :: ::> Those of you who have email that gets routed in various ways through ::> AT&T, like att.net, sbcglobal.net, pacbell, etc. Have most likely not ::> seen any Team.Net email for a few days. From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jul 6 10:59:53 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 18:59:53 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit In-Reply-To: References: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C>, Message-ID: <4C336109.6070202@chello.nl> These floats can be had separately, see: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Triumph-STAG-TR7-FUEL-Sender-unit-FLOAT-New-Orig-/230490844946?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35aa532f12 Kees Oudesluijs NL Dan S wrote: > I bought one from NOS Locators and the float filled with gas after about 3 > months. Purchased a rebult original from the Nock's > > Dan Serrao > 1963 BJ7 > Fountain Hills, AZ From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Jul 6 11:38:22 2010 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:38:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit In-Reply-To: References: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C> <05ea01cb1d1d$b911a6f0$2b34f4d0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <003301cb1d32$07f3f570$17dbe050$@rr.com> Or replace the plastic float with a Ford part: COAZ-9202-B, available at your local dealer. These are brass and are otherwise identical to the plastic floats on the Moss units. I got two of the latter, one with a crack and another with a hole at the end of the float arm wire where the wire was sheared into a sharp point during manufacture. Pretty simple to fix the problem, but Moss didn't seem interested. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dallas Congleton Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:15 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit In the FWIW category, NOS Locators now is advertising a fuel sending units with two electrical contacts on the float arm resistor. This is suppose to help with the erratic readings on these units. The NOS units do look reasonable well made, although all these current units have a plastic float. The lever arm needs to be bent up on the end of the circle where it encompasses the plastic float. This will keep the end of the wire from wearing a hole into the float. NOS Locaters also sells these on eBay under the same vendor name. Dallas From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Jul 6 13:03:47 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:03:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit In-Reply-To: <003301cb1d32$07f3f570$17dbe050$@rr.com> References: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C> <05ea01cb1d1d$b911a6f0$2b34f4d0$@verizon.net> <003301cb1d32$07f3f570$17dbe050$@rr.com> Message-ID: <062301cb1d3d$f6d50fc0$e47f2f40$@verizon.net> I forgot to mention this. I removed the plastic float on my new unit and replaced it with the Ford part. Worth the effort. And, the Ford parts guy knew that I was going to install it in - his words - an "old car" Guess I was not the first one he had seen buy just a float. Incidentally, this part is listed on my site on the Local Parts page. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:38 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit Or replace the plastic float with a Ford part: COAZ-9202-B, available at your local dealer. These are brass and are otherwise identical to the plastic floats on the Moss units. I got two of the latter, one with a crack and another with a hole at the end of the float arm wire where the wire was sheared into a sharp point during manufacture. Pretty simple to fix the problem, but Moss didn't seem interested. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jul 6 13:23:29 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:23:29 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Sending Unit In-Reply-To: <003301cb1d32$07f3f570$17dbe050$@rr.com> References: <62769346086A4983BFD0E26B66AE7AE6@C> <05ea01cb1d1d$b911a6f0$2b34f4d0$@verizon.net> <003301cb1d32$07f3f570$17dbe050$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4C3382B1.4090709@chello.nl> Another one that will probably fit from Chevrolet 1947-72: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Chevy-Truck-1947-72-Gas-Tank-Sender-Float-23-575-/360200910785?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item53dda5b7c1 Kees Oudesluijs NL BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Or replace the plastic float with a Ford part: COAZ-9202-B, available at > your local dealer. These are brass and are otherwise identical to the > plastic floats on the Moss units. I got two of the latter, one with a crack > and another with a hole at the end of the float arm wire where the wire was > sheared into a sharp point during manufacture. Pretty simple to fix the > problem, but Moss didn't seem interested. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA From willig at wtnet.de Tue Jul 6 14:06:36 2010 From: willig at wtnet.de (T+ B Willig) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 22:06:36 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Unknown spring packing pieces -Healey? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002501cb1d46$bd29f1b0$377dd510$@de> I am clearing up my garage and found four NOS rear leaf spring packing rubbers. Three of them are in their original BMC wrapping - The description reads AAA1623 - Sealing pad rubber, Does anyone know were trhey come from? Thanks Thomas Willig From pennell at cox.net Tue Jul 6 16:49:57 2010 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 18:49:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Bonnet metal work In-Reply-To: <702528C35D784446B93AEBC1A0EC6A5A@655vb01> Message-ID: <20100706184958.F8SD7.908508.imail@eastrmwml29> Elton, The springing back is not normal. I went through this issue in the resto of my BN7. Had an experienced metal guy try the heat shrinking but did not get much of anywhere. Wound up using another hood. Keith ---- Elton Schulz wrote: > Fellow Listers, > I'm restoring the bonnet (hood) on my BJ7. After stripping the paint, I'm > getting metal deflection towards the center of the bonnet. It deflects when I > push on it with my hand, but it then springs back. Is this normal or should I > be concerned about this "oil canning" effect? I'm reluctant to attempt to heat > shrink it. > Thanks in advance for your opinions. > > Elton, BJ7 in progress From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Jul 7 03:33:50 2010 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 02:33:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100 fuel pump mount screws In-Reply-To: <4C321C33.50607@earthlink.net> References: <4C321C33.50607@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Bob, These bolts are indeed 1/4 BSF and about 3/4 of an inch in length, however they are quite unique in that the bolt heads are almost half the thickness of a standard bolt head. This is so the bolt head would not protrude too much under the Armacord that covered them. As I recall the originals on my BN1 had the "WILEY" vendor name on them. Now how's that for Concours trivia :-) Cheers, Curt On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Bob Haskell wrote: > Listers, > > The fuel pump mounting screws are part number 6K 9431. What's the thread? > 1/4 BSF? > > Cheers, > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From ah53 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 7 14:49:31 2010 From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE Message-ID: <163295.90637.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I would like to add my voice to support Bill and the 100M Registry. I can see no reason why AHCA has refused to continue the relationship. My 100M is registered with both and the 100 with Rich. Joe BN1 #923 Coronet Cream BN2 100M BJ8 the Blue Baby as per wife and Kid From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jul 7 14:52:29 2010 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:52:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Bringing a trailer to Conclave? Message-ID: <201007071352519.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> ... especially an empty one? For true Austin enthusiasts, no "collection" would be complete without a Champ! I have one ready to go! (NB. not under its own power, mind you;) I'll be doing a shocking tech session Wednesday, but am only 2+ away near Madison WI It's a weighty decision, I know (engine lump alone is 850lbs) Chassis W1 9030 Details on the Champs at www.austinchamp.com Though I've registered it there, it hasn't made it to the website. Reasonable offers accepted, unreasonable ones considered. Further details on request directly. Thanks. Peter C. From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 7 15:50:59 2010 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 14:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE In-Reply-To: <163295.90637.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <163295.90637.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <365137.27353.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Although I'm not a 100M owner nor do I really care about this issue. I wonder why this issue has come up on the Healey list and only one side is making their (his) position known. Certainly the AHCA must have a reason for their position whatever it is. Maybe we (healey list) should not jump to conclusions based solely on Bill Meade's comments. Maybe Meade and AHCA should continue their discussion in a less public forum. When only one side of an issue is public, one can wonder why Mr Meade has taken the issue public. Just a thought. Bob ________________________________ Subject: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE I would like to add my voice to support Bill and the 100M Registry. I can see no reason why AHCA has refused to continue the relationship. My 100M is registered with both and the 100 with Rich. Joe BN1 #923 Coronet Cream BN2 100M BJ8 the Blue Baby as per wife and Kid From raymead at comcast.net Wed Jul 7 16:46:24 2010 From: raymead at comcast.net (raymead at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 22:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE In-Reply-To: <365137.27353.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1385653456.234068.1278542784237.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> hey.... if his name is MEADE he must be a good guy! signed, Ray MEAD =============================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Brown" To: "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2010 5:50:59 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE Although I'm not a 100M owner nor do I really care about this issue. I wonder why this issue has come up on the Healey list and only one side is making their (his) position known. Certainly the AHCA must have a reason for their position whatever it is. Maybe we (healey list) should not jump to conclusions based solely on Bill Meade's comments. Maybe Meade and AHCA should continue their discussion in a less public forum. When only one side of an issue is public, one can wonder why Mr Meade has taken the issue public. Just a thought. Bob ________________________________ Subject: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE I would like to add my voice to support Bill and the 100M Registry. B I can see no reason why AHCA has refused to continue the relationship. My 100M is registered with both and the 100 with Rich. Joe BN1 #923 Coronet Cream BN2 100M BJ8 the Blue Baby as per wife and Kid _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/raymead at comcast.net From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Jul 7 21:34:16 2010 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 03:34:16 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?tricarb_for_sale?= Message-ID: <20100708033416.27615.qmail@server278.com> check item# 260632040474. this is a blue/white tricarb on ebay that is listed for sale in las vegas. in ten years here i have never seen this car anywhere in vegas. there is a bt7 tricarb but i know the owner and this is not it. i sent a question asking for austin healey number and where i can look at it. cannot wait to see what kind of answer i get back. hjim From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Jul 7 21:34:16 2010 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 03:34:16 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?tricarb_for_sale?= Message-ID: <20100708033416.27606.qmail@server278.com> check item# 260632040474. this is a blue/white tricarb on ebay that is listed for sale in las vegas. in ten years here i have never seen this car anywhere in vegas. there is a bt7 tricarb but i know the owner and this is not it. i sent a question asking for austin healey number and where i can look at it. cannot wait to see what kind of answer i get back. hjim From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Wed Jul 7 21:49:03 2010 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 20:49:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Eugene Rendezvous Message-ID: Here are some pictures we took at the car show and the Mill Tour. If it doesn't link when you click on it you should be able to cut and paste it into your browser. http://s774.photobucket.com/albums/yy25/...mview=slideshow Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 8 07:08:03 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 13:08:03 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Spridgets] Interesting cars for sale.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Forwarding in case someone is interested ... Robert D > Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 20:23:07 -0500 > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/ctd/1794005031.html > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/1795417795.html > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/1762386523.html > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/1785713620.html > > No financial interest...... > > -- From rkorn at simnet.is Thu Jul 8 08:22:16 2010 From: rkorn at simnet.is (Richard Korn) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 14:22:16 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey sighting in the Hamptons Message-ID: <6F32AF07A33D468F919DFE30CFF510B3@velad> I was in the Hamptons for a day and a half and saw a nice white BJ7 or 8 sitting across from the farmers market on rte. 27 in Amagansett.Top was down, keys in the ignition and a blackberry on the front seat with no one in sight!! It had Illinois plates (X69 0753) A club member who took a wrong turn on his way to the conclave?? regards, Richard BN2 From scvc70 at epix.net Thu Jul 8 08:43:43 2010 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:43:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help Message-ID: <5B911737F2424E5FBF204914DC14B405@S0026273562> We want to remove the side plate on a spare BN1 gearbox to check the condition of its internals. According to the Workshop Manual, section F/3, "Dismantling the gearbox," to remove the lever from the shaft we merely "remove nut and washer, tap out the pin...." Hah!!!! Nut and washer came right off; the pin has resisted tapping, whacking, pressure from a jury-rigged C-clamp/nut press, heating with a propane torch and then repeating all of the above. What do we try next??? Gratefully, Sarah Carr BN1 in [sweltering] PA From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 8 09:28:15 2010 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:28:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 72 MGB GT Message-ID: <8A929665-4DF5-487C-B104-8557A41AA688@sbcglobal.net> We are selling one of my fathers cars. It is a 1972 MGB GT. He was the second owner, the car was originally sold at BMC in Oakland and has 39,000 original miles. The car has its original paint, the interior has been replaced, new wheels and tires. He did a mechanical restoration to the car when he purchased it. If anyone knows someone that is looking for very original MGB GT that has been meticulisly taken care of have them get ahold of me. I will be posting it in the MG magazines in the next month. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 8 09:32:15 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 17:32:15 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help In-Reply-To: <5B911737F2424E5FBF204914DC14B405@S0026273562> References: <5B911737F2424E5FBF204914DC14B405@S0026273562> Message-ID: Sarah - I think these pins may be wedge shaped. Have you tried tapping from the opposite direction? Alan On 7/8/10, Carr&Edwards wrote: > We want to remove the side plate on a spare BN1 gearbox to check the > condition > of its internals. According to the Workshop Manual, section F/3, > "Dismantling > the gearbox," to remove the lever from the shaft we merely "remove nut and > washer, tap out the pin...." > > Hah!!!! Nut and washer came right off; the pin has resisted tapping, > whacking, pressure from a jury-rigged C-clamp/nut press, heating with a > propane torch and then repeating all of the above. What do we try next??? > > > Gratefully, > Sarah Carr > BN1 in [sweltering] PA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Jul 8 09:33:50 2010 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:33:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rendevous photos Message-ID: I will work on it tonight. The link does work on the British Car Forum sight. See Austin Healey then go to Eugene Oregon bu Tahoe Healey. Len, there is a great picture of your chair. Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jul 8 15:36:46 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:36:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE In-Reply-To: <365137.27353.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <163295.90637.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <365137.27353.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C3644EE.30102@justbrits.com> <<...one can wonder why Mr Meade has taken the issue public. >> Or wonder why AHCA is so quite, Bob? After all, the "silence IS deafening" !!! Just a thought. Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Thu Jul 8 16:10:18 2010 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 15:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE In-Reply-To: <4C3644EE.30102@justbrits.com> References: <163295.90637.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <365137.27353.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4C3644EE.30102@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <847185.57167.qm@web54101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> can anyone tell me what is going on ??? What is the fight about ?? Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" To: Healey List Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 4:36:46 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE <<...one can wonder why Mr Meade has taken the issue public. >> Or wonder why AHCA is so quite, Bob? After all, the "silence IS deafening" !!! Just a thought. Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Thu Jul 8 16:24:57 2010 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 15:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fender and door seal for BN2 Help !!!! In-Reply-To: <4C3644EE.30102@justbrits.com> References: <163295.90637.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <365137.27353.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4C3644EE.30102@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <254866.32599.qm@web54106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I am completely lost on what rubber and fabric seals I need for my BN2. Unfortunetly I do not have other cars to look. I would appreciate if someone can give a light on all the rubber required for doors and fenders. I have been looking at the Moss Catalog and I have a few questions: Door Seal Set # 806-785 Door Seal Set # 259-840 Door Seal Furflex # 249-760 How many yards ?? I need any more seals ?? Thansk to all... Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" To: Healey List Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 4:36:46 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE <<...one can wonder why Mr Meade has taken the issue public. >> Or wonder why AHCA is so quite, Bob? After all, the "silence IS deafening" !!! Just a thought. Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Thu Jul 8 16:35:27 2010 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 22:35:27 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE In-Reply-To: <847185.57167.qm@web54101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <163295.90637.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <365137.27353.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <4C3644EE.30102@justbrits.com>, <847185.57167.qm@web54101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I must have missed some messages as well as all I got was from this topic yesterday, July 7th, nothing from Meade or anything like that. Jean Caron > Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 15:10:18 -0700 > From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com > To: shop at justbrits.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE > > can anyone tell me what is going on ??? > > What is the fight about ?? > Josi > Vicente Vargas > Musmi > > > Tel. (571) 321 3740 > Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 > Skype: > jovivago > > > www.musme.net > > > Bogota, Colombia > ________________________________ > From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" > > To: Healey List > Sent: Thu, July > 8, 2010 4:36:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE > <<...one can wonder why Mr Meade has taken the issue public. >> > > Or wonder why > AHCA is so quite, Bob? > After all, the "silence IS deafening" !!! > > Just a > thought. > > Ed > Please visit MY site at: > www.justbrits.com > [with LOTS of 1st time > offers for Listers in the > For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] > [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/vintage_roadster_restoration at ho tmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Turn down-time into play-time with Messenger games http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734385 From Healey100M at gmail.com Thu Jul 8 16:39:02 2010 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 18:39:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE In-Reply-To: <4C3644EE.30102@justbrits.com> References: <163295.90637.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <365137.27353.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4C3644EE.30102@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <69402C1F-BC6F-422B-ACF1-6FF601DF19F3@gmail.com> Not sure this is a public issue. Has no place on the list. (In London, ON, Canada, on the way to Galena.) :-) Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Shop at Just Brits wrote: > <<...one can wonder why Mr Meade has taken the issue public. >> > > Or wonder why AHCA is so quite, Bob? > After all, the "silence IS deafening" !!! > > Just a thought. > > Ed > Please visit MY site at: > www.justbrits.com > [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the > For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] > [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey100m at gmail.com From scvc70 at epix.net Thu Jul 8 16:42:09 2010 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 18:42:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help References: <5B911737F2424E5FBF204914DC14B405@S0026273562> Message-ID: The pin must be tapered--one protruding end is threaded, with washer/nut (thus this must be the narrower end); the other protruding end is plain--obviously the wider end. The nut must have been cranked up so tight, for so long, that the pin is well and truly stuck in the lever or in the groove in the shaft. So far no amount of pressure on the end with the nut has dislodged the thing. [The nut itself came off nicely, so we removed the washer and replaced the nut (to keep from damaging the threaded end of the pin), leaving a small space for the pin to move--or so we hoped....] We'll give the torch a few more tries. Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: "Carr&Edwards" ; Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help > Sarah - > > I think these pins may be wedge shaped. Have you tried tapping from > the opposite direction? > > Alan > > On 7/8/10, Carr&Edwards wrote: >> We want to remove the side plate on a spare BN1 gearbox to check the >> condition >> of its internals. According to the Workshop Manual, section F/3, >> "Dismantling >> the gearbox," to remove the lever from the shaft we merely "remove nut >> and >> washer, tap out the pin...." >> >> Hah!!!! Nut and washer came right off; the pin has resisted tapping, >> whacking, pressure from a jury-rigged C-clamp/nut press, heating with a >> propane torch and then repeating all of the above. What do we try >> next??? >> >> >> Gratefully, >> Sarah Carr >> BN1 in [sweltering] PA > Sent from my mobile device From mslechta at chartermi.net Thu Jul 8 17:06:23 2010 From: mslechta at chartermi.net (Mike Slechta) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 18:06:23 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE In-Reply-To: <847185.57167.qm@web54101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <163295.90637.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com><365137.27353.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><4C3644EE.30102@justbrits.com> <847185.57167.qm@web54101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's reassuring to find out that I'm not the only one that doesn't know what's going on. :-( Mad Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Josi Vicente Vargas To: Shop at " Just Brits " ; Healey List Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE can anyone tell me what is going on ??? What is the fight about ?? Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" To: Healey List Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 4:36:46 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE <<...one can wonder why Mr Meade has taken the issue public. >> Or wonder why AHCA is so quite, Bob? After all, the "silence IS deafening" !!! Just a thought. Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mslechta at chartermi.net From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Thu Jul 8 17:15:10 2010 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 09:15:10 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Fender and door seal for BN2 Help !!!! In-Reply-To: <254866.32599.qm@web54106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <163295.90637.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <365137.27353.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4C3644EE.30102@justbrits.com> <254866.32599.qm@web54106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3F6B02410E80C246B6B83165C250C21502BE138034@SLUGPEXMC02.central.det.win> G'day Jose Have a look at the AH Spares website at: http://www.ahspares.co.uk/ It's excellent for working out what you need. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Josi Vicente Vargas Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 8:25 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Fender and door seal for BN2 Help !!!! I am completely lost on what rubber and fabric seals I need for my BN2. Unfortunetly I do not have other cars to look. I would appreciate if someone can give a light on all the rubber required for doors and fenders. I have been looking at the Moss Catalog and I have a few questions: Door Seal Set # 806-785 Door Seal Set # 259-840 Door Seal Furflex # 249-760 How many yards ?? I need any more seals ?? Thansk to all... Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" To: Healey List Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 4:36:46 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] AHCA's REFUSAL TO RESOLVE ISSUE <<...one can wonder why Mr Meade has taken the issue public. >> Or wonder why AHCA is so quite, Bob? After all, the "silence IS deafening" !!! Just a thought. Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/patrick.quinn at det.nsw.edu.au ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From ampole at hotmail.com Thu Jul 8 17:48:51 2010 From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 23:48:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Message-ID: http://buyhenade.medicationsrxwellness.net _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Thu Jul 8 19:48:17 2010 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 01:48:17 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?bt7_tri-carb?= Message-ID: <20100709014817.30470.qmail@server278.com> the guy answered and sent pictures of the bt7. it might have been a tri-carb at one time but now has a bj8 motor dropped in. car looks good for $8900. the guy that wrote the description has a different name of the one that sent me the email. i asked again where i can look at the car. the healey number is HBT7L/14795. does this belong to anyone on the list. i am sure it is a scam and am waiting to see if he will actually have me look at the car. told him we could meet in a neutral place. will keep the list posted. hjim From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 8 20:57:17 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 04:57:17 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help In-Reply-To: References: <5B911737F2424E5FBF204914DC14B405@S0026273562> Message-ID: Can you slide the lever off? Maybe the slot in the pin is half moon shaped? Does the threaded end have part of the pin shaved off as if the pin is tapered? If not, the pin will have a half moon cut out, which can't be removed without sliding the lever off... Thinking outside the box here... On 7/9/10, Carr&Edwards wrote: > The pin must be tapered--one protruding end is threaded, with washer/nut > (thus this must be the narrower end); the other protruding end is > plain--obviously the wider end. The nut must have been cranked up so > tight, for so long, that the pin is well and truly stuck in the lever or in > the groove in the shaft. So far no amount of pressure on the end with the > nut has dislodged the thing. [The nut itself came off nicely, so we removed > the washer and replaced the nut (to keep from damaging the threaded end of > the pin), leaving a small space for the pin to move--or so we hoped....] > > We'll give the torch a few more tries. > > > Sarah > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Seigrist" > To: "Carr&Edwards" ; > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help > > >> Sarah - >> >> I think these pins may be wedge shaped. Have you tried tapping from >> the opposite direction? >> >> Alan >> >> On 7/8/10, Carr&Edwards wrote: >>> We want to remove the side plate on a spare BN1 gearbox to check the >>> condition >>> of its internals. According to the Workshop Manual, section F/3, >>> "Dismantling >>> the gearbox," to remove the lever from the shaft we merely "remove nut >>> and >>> washer, tap out the pin...." >>> >>> Hah!!!! Nut and washer came right off; the pin has resisted tapping, >>> whacking, pressure from a jury-rigged C-clamp/nut press, heating with a >>> propane torch and then repeating all of the above. What do we try >>> next??? >>> >>> >>> Gratefully, >>> Sarah Carr >>> BN1 in [sweltering] PA > >> Sent from my mobile device > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From rwil at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 8 20:58:16 2010 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:58:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000001cb1666$e01ccc10$a0566430$@net.au> References: <000001cb1666$e01ccc10$a0566430$@net.au> Message-ID: Maybe Andy's computer is a zombie? spreading spam and whater else? The website is not compromised but either someone is spoofing Andy's computer or the computer has some nasty malware in it that needs to be removed. -Roland On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:08:59 +1000, you wrote: ::Spam? ::Site compromised? :: ::John Rowe Qld Australia :: ::-----Original Message----- ::From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] ::On Behalf Of andy pole ::Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 9:49 AM ::To: healeys at autox.team.net ::Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) :: ::http://buyhenade.medicationsrxwellness.net :: ::________________________________________________________________ ::_______________________________________________ ::Healeys at autox.team.net ::Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html ::Suggested annual donation $12.75 ::Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ::Forums: http://www.team.net/forums ::Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rwil at sbcglobal.net From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu Jul 8 21:55:37 2010 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 20:55:37 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <000001cb1666$e01ccc10$a0566430$@net.au> Message-ID: OK, now this is getting bizarre. This afternoon, just before leaving work, I hit my Gmail one last time I saw the email from John Rowe about Andy's email (which I had not seen) tonight I get home and see Andy's email, and Roland's. Scratching my head, I go pull up John's email to check the time stamp, here is what it says: Date: Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:08PM Andy's email is time stamped: Date: Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:48 PM And Roland's is time stamped: Date: Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:58 PM So let me see if I have this straight, according to gmail, I have a response to an email from this afternoon that was sent 11 days ago. Is Moss selling flux capacitors for Healeys? Rick From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Thu Jul 8 23:19:27 2010 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John & Kerry Rowe) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:19:27 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <000001cb1666$e01ccc10$a0566430$@net.au> Message-ID: <000001cb1f26$4d7e4410$e87acc30$@net.au> Ok- I confess- 1. Date in computer was wrong- have now rectified 2. Meant Andy's site was compromised-not the list Now work out your punishment- I can take it John From: Richard Ewald [mailto:richard.ewald at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 1:56 PM To: Roland Wilhelmy Cc: John & Kerry Rowe; Austin Healey list Subject: Re: [Healeys] (no subject) OK, now this is getting bizarre. This afternoon, just before leaving work, I hit my Gmail one last time I saw the email from John Rowe about Andy's email (which I had not seen) tonight I get home and see Andy's email, and Roland's. Scratching my head, I go pull up John's email to check the time stamp, here is what it says: Date: Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:08PM Andy's email is time stamped: Date: Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:48 PM And Roland's is time stamped: Date: Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:58 PM So let me see if I have this straight, according to gmail, I have a response to an email from this afternoon that was sent 11 days ago. Is Moss selling flux capacitors for Healeys? Rick From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu Jul 8 23:50:14 2010 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 22:50:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000001cb1f26$4d7e4410$e87acc30$@net.au> References: <000001cb1666$e01ccc10$a0566430$@net.au> <000001cb1f26$4d7e4410$e87acc30$@net.au> Message-ID: OK, that explains the 11 days, but what about the getting your reply BEFORE I got Andy's email? I still think you have a flux capacitor. No punishment, I just want to know how you are doing this. It would be very handy to have an answer in my boss' email box before he sends me the question. :-) Rick On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:19 PM, John & Kerry Rowe wrote: > Ok- I confess- > > 1. Date in computer was wrong- have now rectified > > 2. Meant Andys site was compromised-not the list > > Now work out your punishment- I can take it > > John > > > > *From:* Richard Ewald [mailto:richard.ewald at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, 9 July 2010 1:56 PM > *To:* Roland Wilhelmy > *Cc:* John & Kerry Rowe; Austin Healey list > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] (no subject) > > > > OK, now this is getting bizarre. This afternoon, just before leaving work, > I hit my Gmail one last time > I saw the email from John Rowe about Andy's email (which I had not seen) > tonight I get home and see Andy's email, and Roland's. > Scratching my head, I go pull up John's email to check the time stamp, here > is what it says: > Date: Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:08PM > > Andy's email is time stamped: > Date: Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:48 PM > > And Roland's is time stamped: > Date: Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:58 PM > > So let me see if I have this straight, according to gmail, I have a > response to an email from this afternoon that was sent 11 days ago. > Is Moss selling flux capacitors for Healeys? > Rick From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Fri Jul 9 06:16:43 2010 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 08:16:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help In-Reply-To: References: <5B911737F2424E5FBF204914DC14B405@S0026273562> Message-ID: Sarah, I would NOT recommend using a torch on those parts. The shaft is probably heat treated and using a torch will almost definitely make it soft and therefore weak. Those taper pins can be difficult to remove but heating will not help much. I would recommend breaking the threaded section of the pin off, then after placing a heavy support on the back side of the lever try hitting the pin, where the threaded section has been broken off, using a stout pin pinch and a good sized hammer. BTW they are the same pins that used to be used on the pedal cranks of bicycles many years ago. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Carr&Edwards wrote: > The pin must be tapered--one protruding end is threaded, with washer/nut > (thus this must be the narrower end); the other protruding end is > plain--obviously the wider end. The nut must have been cranked up so > tight, for so long, that the pin is well and truly stuck in the lever or in > the groove in the shaft. So far no amount of pressure on the end with the > nut has dislodged the thing. [The nut itself came off nicely, so we removed > the washer and replaced the nut (to keep from damaging the threaded end of > the pin), leaving a small space for the pin to move--or so we hoped....] > > We'll give the torch a few more tries. > > > Sarah > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" > To: "Carr&Edwards" ; > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help > > >> Sarah - >> >> I think these pins may be wedge shaped. Have you tried tapping from >> the opposite direction? >> >> Alan >> >> On 7/8/10, Carr&Edwards wrote: >>> >>> We want to remove the side plate on a spare BN1 gearbox to check the >>> condition >>> of its internals. According to the Workshop Manual, section F/3, >>> "Dismantling >>> the gearbox," to remove the lever from the shaft we merely "remove nut >>> and >>> washer, tap out the pin...." >>> >>> Hah!!!! Nut and washer came right off; the pin has resisted tapping, >>> whacking, pressure from a jury-rigged C-clamp/nut press, heating with a >>> propane torch and then repeating all of the above. What do we try >>> next??? >>> >>> >>> Gratefully, >>> Sarah Carr >>> BN1 in [sweltering] PA > >> Sent from my mobile device > > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/msalter at precisionsportscar.com From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri Jul 9 06:56:12 2010 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 07:56:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help In-Reply-To: References: <5B911737F2424E5FBF204914DC14B405@S0026273562> Message-ID: <385319078E4C46E09CCA90AD71577FE7@GregPC> You may have already tried it, but have you applied penetrating oil like PB blaster before applying the heat? also may or may not work but worth a shot, tighten the nut very firmly back down, as in to a greater degree that it was before, I know you are moving in the wrong direction, but if there is a bit of corrosion holding it in this may break the corrosion bond, you have said it is well and truly stuck so your worries about gettting it "more stuck" using this method are minimal.in my humble opinion. If you have a metal punch with the appropriate sized end you should be able to whack it pretty good with the bolt attached (good idea for saving the part by the way) without damage. Having the part and or what the part is attahced to mounted or held in place as firmly as possible helps too, so the force of the whack is not absorbed. My best results in similar situations have involved: 1. Stuck part in a vice (probably not an option for you) or still firmly mounted to the car 2. Penetrating oil, followed by 3. Propane torch, followed very quickly while it is well and truly hot by 4. The big whack with an appropriate tool well placed so the force is transmitted to the pin and it doesn't slide off when struck As they say on the shampoo bottles, if it doesn't work the first time :"rinse, lather, repeat" I haven't had the issue you are hacing with a gearbox,but similar fittings to the front suspension, and it is a royal pain, sometimes the only thing that works is to drill it out, but then you will need to find or fabricate a new part. Good luck, Greg Lemon From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri Jul 9 07:05:55 2010 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 08:05:55 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help In-Reply-To: References: <5B911737F2424E5FBF204914DC14B405@S0026273562> Message-ID: <656FFF57501C4914830EA260083B43C2@GregPC> I posted before seeing Micheals note, if you can get a similar pin (I was pictuiring the set up in my mind like it was pretty familar, then I read Micheals note, bycycle crank pin, of course, the light went off in my head, bing bing bing) I would defer to his knowledge an experience and go that route, if you cut the thing off at the exit point you should be able to drive it out with a punch, of if not start drilling since the part is now toast anyway.. Good Luck From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Fri Jul 9 10:47:11 2010 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 18:47:11 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Friday Funny - no Healey content Message-ID: My flight was being served by an obviously gay flight attendant, who seemed to put everyone in a good mood as het served us food and drinks. As the plane prepared to descend, he came swishing down the aisle and told us that 'Captain Marvey has asked me to announce that he'll be landing the big scary plane shortly, so lovely people, if you could just put your trays up, that would be super'. On his trip back up the aisle, he noticed this well-dressed and rather Arabic looking woman hadn't moved a muscle. 'Perhaps you didn't hear me over those big brute engines but I asked you to raise your trazy-poo, so the main man can pitty-pat us on the ground'. She calmly turned her head and said: ' In my country, I am called a Princess and I take orders from no one.' To which the flight attendant replied without missing a beat: 'Well, sweet-cheeks, in my country I'm called a Queen, so I outrank you. Tray-up, Bitch!' From jpowers316 at msn.com Fri Jul 9 12:32:21 2010 From: jpowers316 at msn.com (Joe Powers) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 13:32:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 trans oil capacity Message-ID: Greetings, What's the capacity for the BJ8 trans and od when changing the oil? The service manual says 7.5 US pints and the owners manual says 6.9 plus 1.75 pints or 8.65 US pints. I have 7 pints in and the dipstick reads over full but it's hard to get in to first and shifted better before and less oil than that came out. Thanks, Joe Powers From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri Jul 9 13:14:04 2010 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:14:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 trans oil capacity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005501cb1f9a$e5a03ea0$b0e0bbe0$@rr.com> Hi, Joe - I've found that 3 U. S. quarts (6 U.S. pints) fills the gearbox just to the HIGH mark after I have drained both overdrive and gearbox. I imagine that once the overdrive is cycled the level on the gearbox dipstick will come down a bit and allow for thermal expansion of the oil to the HIGH mark. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Powers Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 2:32 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 trans oil capacity Greetings, What's the capacity for the BJ8 trans and od when changing the oil? The service manual says 7.5 US pints and the owners manual says 6.9 plus 1.75 pints or 8.65 US pints. I have 7 pints in and the dipstick reads over full but it's hard to get in to first and shifted better before and less oil than that came out. Thanks, Joe Powers From prittenhouse2 at verizon.net Fri Jul 9 14:55:49 2010 From: prittenhouse2 at verizon.net (Phil Rittenhouse) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:55:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Light bar - help! Message-ID: <9BC72C3E-3089-43FD-96D3-E47CC4D64C51@verizon.net> One of the tabs on my light bar is bent back. Does anyone have an idea of how to straighten it without breaking it off? Thanks, Phil Sent from my iPhone From gardner5 at comcast.net Fri Jul 9 17:00:27 2010 From: gardner5 at comcast.net (gardner5 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 23:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Loss of power In-Reply-To: <597583712.32841.1278716343022.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <70139239.32925.1278716427547.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Just putting a freshly restored BN2 back on the road.B Was today in 95 degree weather, and at speeds over 50mph it struggled (kind of surgedB and fealt like it's not getting fuel?).B Anyways, after doing this for about 4 miles, it died and then wouldn't crank.B Waited 1/2 hour, then it started right up and ran great at speeds less than 40mph.B Any ideas? Also, noticed an oil leak that will need to be addressed at the distributor.B I already had a groove machined and fit an O-ring.B Any other ideas? Joel BN2 From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri Jul 9 17:13:38 2010 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 18:13:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of power In-Reply-To: <70139239.32925.1278716427547.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <70139239.32925.1278716427547.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2B99D9C293D6404398906610C0AC7E35@GregPC> Pull the float bowls tops and look for reddish brown sediment, sounds like blockage from fuel tank crud, common problem when freshly restored cars get back on the road. Greg From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 9 18:00:27 2010 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 20:00:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of power References: <70139239.32925.1278716427547.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <2B99D9C293D6404398906610C0AC7E35@GregPC> Message-ID: <001601cb1fc2$e7b9efb0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> On a new restoration I would certainly think that the tank would be clean, right? Sounds like vapor lock. Check the archives on that one. On a fresh start up , readjusting your carbs is very common. Raise your carb pistons like your manual suggests and see what your engine does. Then adjust accordingly. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lemon" To: ; Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Loss of power > Pull the float bowls tops and look for reddish brown sediment, sounds like > blockage from fuel tank crud, common problem when freshly restored cars > get back on the road. > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jul 9 18:14:46 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:14:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of power In-Reply-To: <001601cb1fc2$e7b9efb0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <70139239.32925.1278716427547.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <2B99D9C293D6404398906610C0AC7E35@GregPC> <001601cb1fc2$e7b9efb0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <4C37BB76.1000103@comcast.net> But why won't it crank? Battery issues? bs Mark LaPierre wrote: > On a new restoration I would certainly think that the tank would be > clean, right? > Sounds like vapor lock. Check the archives on that one. > > On a fresh start up , readjusting your carbs is very common. Raise > your carb pistons like your > manual suggests and see what your engine does. Then adjust accordingly. > > Mark > >> Pull the float bowls tops and look for reddish brown sediment, sounds >> like blockage from fuel tank crud, common problem when freshly >> restored cars get back on the road. >> >> Greg -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From haywoodone at hotmail.com Fri Jul 9 22:01:53 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:01:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Annual Conclave Adventure--2010--Galena Message-ID: Listers, We're on our annual adventure to Conclave. This year our traveling companion, Steve, is unable to attend--we miss you Steve and Freida. We began our journey Thurs. afternoon as I was engaged in gainful employment until 7AM Thurs. and because of last minute details we couldn't get going till around 1PM. We headed out from Jacksonville, NC west on Hwy 24 on a meandering trail that will end up in Galena on Sunday. We passed through the home of the 82nd Airborne in Fayetteville then on to the home of Kelly Pickler in Albemarle, NC. She wasn't there so we continued north on rural roads towards Chattanooga (otherwise known as West Jefferson, NC.)--a little inside humor here. The day (afternoon) was Hot and sunny so we had plenty of block on for the top down cruise. Nothing much to report since everything went smoothly--car running nice and cool and all. Well just before Wilkesboro right around the race track it began to sprinkle cooling things down a bit. My wife, Sherry, uttered the famous words "We'll drive right through it, it'll be OK"!@*%. About that time we cruised around a bend and it appeared as though new black top had been applied to the highway with a definite line straight across the roadway. Before we could do anything we were getting soaked. We pulled off on the next side road and pulled up in a driveway. As we slowed down Sherry put up the umbrella and when we stopped I jumped out and threw the top up (bj8 thank goodness). About that time a young man came running out from the house that the driveway belonged to with a dry towel in his hand and an offer to have us come in to dry off. People have been so wonderful to us everywhere we've gone in the Healey. We accepted the towel, declined the drying off offer, and headed on our merry way as if we had good sense. Continued in Part 2. George & Sherry Haywood '65 bj8 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From eschulz at frontiernet.net Fri Jul 9 22:12:36 2010 From: eschulz at frontiernet.net (Elton Schulz) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:12:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Bonnet Message-ID: Fellow Listers, I'm looking for a bonnet (hood) for a 3000. If you have one for sale, please contact me off the List. Thanks, Elton From haywoodone at hotmail.com Fri Jul 9 22:26:43 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:26:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Adventure Part 2 Message-ID: Part 2 of Thurs. adventure. A little farther up the road (up as in elevation) it stopped raining and we pulled over at a rest stop where we met a young man with his 2 young sons who admired the car and told us he had a friend who lived in our home town. We in fact knew of his friend. I thought he was going to say that he had a friend that had a Healey back in the day (seems that those 80 some thousand sure changed hands a lot since everybody you meet either had one or had a friend who had one once). We continued on through Wilkesboro and up into the mountains towards West Jefferson and our awaiting motel room. It started pouring down rain again and continued all the way up Hwy 221 till just before West Jefferson and we pulled into our motel, checked in with the Patel's, and dried out in our room. The best thing about the room was the shower and the bed--what else would you want, Eh!! Well I wanted to report the days happenings but the wireless network was not cooperating. I gave up and went to bed. We arrived there at around 9:30PM tired and wet but happy with our days journey. Stay tuned for more on-the-road adventure. Will catch up tomorrow for today's and tomorrow's happenings if my computer acts nicely. George & Sherry Haywood '65 bj8 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jul 10 00:40:09 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:40:09 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of power In-Reply-To: <70139239.32925.1278716427547.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <70139239.32925.1278716427547.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C3815C9.80506@chello.nl> Dirty fuel? Check fuel filter, pump and the small filter in the inlet of the carbs if present. Also check the float chambers and renew the rubber fuel lines. Kees Oudesluijs NL gardner5 at comcast.net wrote: > Just putting a freshly restored BN2 back on the road.B Was today in 95 degree > weather, and at speeds over 50mph it struggled (kind of surgedB and fealt like > it's not getting fuel?).B Anyways, after doing this for about 4 miles, it > died and then wouldn't crank.B Waited 1/2 hour, then it started right up and > ran great at speeds less than 40mph.B Any ideas? > > > > Also, noticed an oil leak that will need to be addressed at the distributor.B > I already had a groove machined and fit an O-ring.B Any other ideas? > > > Joel > > BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2991 - datum van uitgifte: 07/09/10 08:36:00 From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 00:43:37 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:43:37 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Prague BN1 Message-ID: Just saw a nice black BN1 pass by the Fred and Ginger building in Prague. Very nice car, except for the exhaust leak... am I a nerd or what?? The guy was driving so he only had time to tell me he had 5 Healeys. His car had some sort of Mille Miglia sign on the side. Very nice guy. Alan -- Sent from my mobile device From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 01:32:40 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:32:40 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of power In-Reply-To: <70139239.32925.1278716427547.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <597583712.32841.1278716343022.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <70139239.32925.1278716427547.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On your BN2, the fuel pump is right over the rear exhaust pipe. That means when it gets hot outside you're going to get vapor lock, causing your exact symptoms. The car recovers after the exhaust pipe cools down and stops vaporizing fuel in the lines in and out of the pump. Your pump should have a rubber insulator around it - that helps. To get rid of the problem, I just wrapped my BN1's exhaust pipe under the pump with header tape, it fixed that problem permanently. Alan On 7/10/10, gardner5 at comcast.net wrote: > Just putting a freshly restored BN2 back on the road.B Was today in 95 > degree > weather, and at speeds over 50mph it struggled (kind of surgedB and fealt > like > it's not getting fuel?).B Anyways, after doing this for about 4 miles, it > died and then wouldn't crank.B Waited 1/2 hour, then it started right up > and > ran great at speeds less than 40mph.B Any ideas? > > > > Also, noticed an oil leak that will need to be addressed at the > distributor.B > I already had a groove machined and fit an O-ring.B Any other ideas? > > > Joel > > BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sat Jul 10 01:39:04 2010 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:39:04 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Adventure Part 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: G'day George It's late Saturday arvo and mid-winter. I've just come inside to the warmth of the heating and read your two messages. They made me feel as if I was part of your journey. Many thanks Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of George Haywood Sent: Saturday, 10 July 2010 2:27 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Adventure Part 2 Part 2 of Thurs. adventure. A little farther up the road (up as in elevation) it stopped raining and we pulled over at a rest stop where we met a young man with his 2 young sons who admired the car and told us he had a friend who lived in our home town. We in fact knew of his friend. I thought he was going to say that he had a friend that had a Healey back in the day (seems that those 80 some thousand sure changed hands a lot since everybody you meet either had one or had a friend who had one once). We continued on through Wilkesboro and up into the mountains towards West Jefferson and our awaiting motel room. It started pouring down rain again and continued all the way up Hwy 221 till just before West Jefferson and we pulled into our motel, checked in with the Patel's, and dried out in our room. The best thing about the room was the shower and the bed--what else would you want, Eh!! Well I wanted to report the days happenings but the wireless network was not cooperating. I gave up and went to bed. We arrived there at around 9:30PM tired and wet but happy with our days journey. Stay tuned for more on-the-road adventure. Will catch up tomorrow for today's and tomorrow's happenings if my computer acts nicely. George & Sherry Haywood '65 bj8 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jul 10 01:55:09 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:55:09 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of power In-Reply-To: References: <597583712.32841.1278716343022.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <70139239.32925.1278716427547.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C38275D.3000908@chello.nl> Why not reposition the lines and pump away from the exhaust? Kees Oudesluijs NL Alan Seigrist wrote: > On your BN2, the fuel pump is right over the rear exhaust pipe. That > means when it gets hot outside you're going to get vapor lock, causing > your exact symptoms. The car recovers after the exhaust pipe cools > down and stops vaporizing fuel in the lines in and out of the pump. > > Your pump should have a rubber insulator around it - that helps. To > get rid of the problem, I just wrapped my BN1's exhaust pipe under the > pump with header tape, it fixed that problem permanently. > > Alan > > On 7/10/10, gardner5 at comcast.net wrote: > >> Just putting a freshly restored BN2 back on the road.B Was today in 95 >> degree >> weather, and at speeds over 50mph it struggled (kind of surgedB and fealt >> like >> it's not getting fuel?).B Anyways, after doing this for about 4 miles, it >> died and then wouldn't crank.B Waited 1/2 hour, then it started right up >> and >> ran great at speeds less than 40mph.B Any ideas? >> >> >> >> Also, noticed an oil leak that will need to be addressed at the >> distributor.B >> I already had a groove machined and fit an O-ring.B Any other ideas? >> >> >> Joel >> >> BN2 >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2992 - datum van uitgifte: 07/09/10 20:36:00 From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 03:16:07 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:16:07 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of power In-Reply-To: <4C38275D.3000908@chello.nl> References: <597583712.32841.1278716343022.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <70139239.32925.1278716427547.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4C38275D.3000908@chello.nl> Message-ID: Because wrapping header tape around the pipe takes all of about 10 minutes... and the car remains original. On 7/10/10, Oudesluys wrote: > Why not reposition the lines and pump away from the exhaust? > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > Alan Seigrist wrote: >> On your BN2, the fuel pump is right over the rear exhaust pipe. That >> means when it gets hot outside you're going to get vapor lock, causing >> your exact symptoms. The car recovers after the exhaust pipe cools >> down and stops vaporizing fuel in the lines in and out of the pump. >> >> Your pump should have a rubber insulator around it - that helps. To >> get rid of the problem, I just wrapped my BN1's exhaust pipe under the >> pump with header tape, it fixed that problem permanently. >> >> Alan >> >> On 7/10/10, gardner5 at comcast.net wrote: >> >>> Just putting a freshly restored BN2 back on the road.B Was today in 95 >>> degree >>> weather, and at speeds over 50mph it struggled (kind of surgedB and fealt >>> like >>> it's not getting fuel?).B Anyways, after doing this for about 4 miles, >>> it >>> died and then wouldn't crank.B Waited 1/2 hour, then it started right up >>> and >>> ran great at speeds less than 40mph.B Any ideas? >>> >>> >>> >>> Also, noticed an oil leak that will need to be addressed at the >>> distributor.B >>> I already had a groove machined and fit an O-ring.B Any other ideas? >>> >>> >>> Joel >>> >>> BN2 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. >> Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com >> Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2992 - datum van uitgifte: >> 07/09/10 20:36:00 >> >> > > -- Sent from my mobile device From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jul 10 05:26:31 2010 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 04:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BN1 100M in Octane Message-ID: <951480.66127.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> The August issue of Octane magazine has a nice feature on a BN1 100M owned by Sonny Tough of St. Louis since 1958. Not so long ago the car would be described as "needs restoration" but today it's highly original condition brings it that treasured "deeply patinated" classification. Sonny, now 94 years old, is pictured with the car, which is scheduled to go on the block at the Gooding and Co. auction at Monterey. It's a good read. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From adamnolde at yahoo.com Sat Jul 10 05:31:12 2010 From: adamnolde at yahoo.com (Adam Nolde) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 04:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Trans failure, or little gremlin ??? BJ8 Message-ID: <768494.61741.qm@web110801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I was on my way to Monroe, CT last eve, for the Friday night car show and some ice cream. I had just turned onto a steep hill (not far from my home) and was going through second gear in my BJ8. SNAP !!!! The loud snap under my arse was followed by a rapid grinding sound, which I immediately recognized (so I thought) as a drive shaft being pushed (not pulled) along the arsephalt. I'm sure it took me 0.76 of a second to bring the car to rest where I noticed the noise was gone and the engine was running smoothly. Upon inspection there was nothing hanging loose so I started it up (no noise) put it in gear (no noise) let out the clutch (no noise) and the car began forward. So I decided to limp home, rather than dragging my arse. When I turned the next corner the noise came on again loud and clear, but this time without the SNAP. Again I stopped, the noise subsided, and I started up again. I made it the few blocks back to my house using only first and second and being careful not to anger the little gremlin who might come through the floor and bite my arse. I think it might be a loose part in the gear box, or a broken clutch finger, but I'm really no expert. Do any of you have an idea? The irony here is that I was on my way to Monroe, which is where John Esposito's shop is. Please reply to adamnolde at yahoo.com adam nolde HBJ8L30805 BN6L 2795 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jul 10 05:36:16 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 13:36:16 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Trans failure, or little gremlin ??? BJ8 In-Reply-To: <768494.61741.qm@web110801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <768494.61741.qm@web110801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C385B30.8050304@chello.nl> (Front) wheel bearing? Kees Oudesluijs NL Adam Nolde wrote: > I was on my way to Monroe, CT last eve, for the Friday night car show and some > ice cream. > I had just turned onto a steep hill (not far from my home) and was going through > second gear in my BJ8. > > SNAP !!!! > > The loud snap under my arse was followed by a rapid grinding sound, which I > immediately recognized (so I thought) as a drive shaft being pushed (not pulled) > along the arsephalt. I'm sure it took me 0.76 of a second to bring the car to > rest where I noticed the noise was gone and the engine was running smoothly. > > Upon inspection there was nothing hanging loose so I started it up (no noise) > put it in gear (no noise) let out the clutch (no noise) and the car began > forward. So I decided to limp home, rather than dragging my arse. > > When I turned the next corner the noise came on again loud and clear, but this > time without the SNAP. Again I stopped, the noise subsided, and I started up > again. I made it the few blocks back to my house using only first and second > and being careful not to anger the little gremlin who might come through the > floor and bite my arse. > > I think it might be a loose part in the gear box, or a broken clutch finger, but > I'm really no expert. Do any of you have an idea? > > The irony here is that I was on my way to Monroe, which is where John Esposito's > shop is. > > Please reply to adamnolde at yahoo.com > > adam nolde > HBJ8L30805 > BN6L 2795 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2993 - datum van uitgifte: 07/10/10 08:36:00 From alexmm at roadrunner.com Sat Jul 10 08:19:49 2010 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:19:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey sighting References: <768494.61741.qm@web110801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4748B8E8CCF24239831185B841C24271@atc0f226cd3237> Just saw a great sounding shiny red 3000 with red Massachusetts tags heading south on Rte 9 (Western Avenue) here in Kennebunk, Maine. Anyone on this list? == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] From rjswain at hotmail.com Sat Jul 10 09:05:20 2010 From: rjswain at hotmail.com (Rick Swain) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:05:20 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Fresh Air Intake Message-ID: Does anyone have a spare fresh air intake assembly - Austin-Healey part no. 14B7711, or Moss part no. 363-155 (NA) page 96 of current catalogue? I'm thinking about fabricating a fresh air intake system for the passenger side of the car. I don't want to remove the heater hoses since we do drive the car in cold weather when just the 6 cylinder heater isn't quite sufficient. Price please or perhaps we could part exchange it for a drawing of your car. Cheers Rick'59 BN4 _________________________________________________________________ From derek.c.job at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 10:04:37 2010 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:04:37 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 100M in Octane In-Reply-To: <951480.66127.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <951480.66127.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yep I read that article. No doubt the timing was to coincide with the auction sale. Interesting debate about whether it is really a factory 100M even though a BN1. Should provide some controversy. Obviously the claim doesn,t hurt the auction marketing either; Derek On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:26 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > The August issue of Octane magazine has a nice feature on a BN1 100M owned > by > Sonny Tough of St. Louis since 1958. Not so long ago the car would be > described as "needs restoration" but today it's highly original condition > brings it that treasured "deeply patinated" classification. Sonny, now 94 > years old, is pictured with the car, which is scheduled to go on the block > at > the Gooding and Co. auction at Monterey. It's a good read. > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jul 10 11:07:46 2010 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BN1 100M in Octane In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <353675.7748.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Seems that's the common play these days when you've got a high-end car ready to go to auction ... get a feature in a major magazine. Doesn't bother me at all, let's us get a look at cars we might never see otherwise. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 7/10/10, Derek Job wrote: From: Derek Job Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 100M in Octane To: "HealeyRick" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 12:04 PM Yep I read that article. No doubt the timing was to coincide with the auction sale. Interesting debate about whether it is really a factory 100M even though a BN1. Should provide some controversy. Obviously the claim doesn,t hurt the auction marketing either; Derek On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:26 PM, HealeyRick wrote: The August issue of Octane magazine has a nice feature on a BN1 100M owned by Sonny Tough of St. Louis since 1958. Not so long ago the car would be described as "needs restoration" but today it's highly original condition brings it that treasured "deeply patinated" classification. Sonny, now 94 years old, is pictured with the car, which is scheduled to go on the block at the Gooding and Co. auction at Monterey. It's a good read. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Sat Jul 10 11:36:29 2010 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 13:36:29 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Healey Gymkhanas on youtube Message-ID: List, Just wanted to let the you guys know that videos of the Gymkhana staged at the Southern California Healey Week gathering are now posted on youtube for all to enjoy. The event was held May 21, 2010 in the parking lot of a minor league baseball team just outside of Temecula, California. The venue was great and well set up by our club with hay bales protecting the cars from light posts and orange cones guiding the drivers through the course. Of course some people got lost in the excitement, but many got through very quickly and had clean runs. There are 63 individual videos posted showing the complete runs of the cars participating in the event, most lasting less than a minute, some a bit longer. To view these videos just go to: _www.youtube.com_ (http://www.youtube.com) and then in the search window type in: CHW Gymkhana 01, or 02, or 03, or 23, or 63, etc. and the video will pop up and begin to play. I didn't put everyone's name or particular car with the videos, as 63 videos is a bit much to do so, but if you see a car or person you know, just remember the number and you can send that particular video link to anyone you want. So enjoy and soon there will also be a little video posted of the Covered Bridge tour from "Healeys Take Eugene, Rendezvous 2010" Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 From healeyguy at aol.com Sat Jul 10 12:04:36 2010 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:04:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Trans failure, or little gremlin ??? BJ8 In-Reply-To: <768494.61741.qm@web110801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <768494.61741.qm@web110801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CCEE717DBA6B31-D74-A646@webmail-d040.sysops.aol.com> Adam Before thinking the worst....please check the emergency cable routing where it turns the corner and goes into the drive shaft tunnel. Yours would not be the first Healey that had that problem. The noise of the drive shaft rubbing the cable can be very loud and it is (almost) literally under your butt although on the other side of the tunnel. Happens more commonly on the earlier cars and on fresh restorations. Aloha Perry -----Original Message----- From: Adam Nolde To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 1:31 am Subject: [Healeys] Trans failure, or little gremlin ??? BJ8 I was on my way to Monroe, CT last eve, for the Friday night car show and some ice cream. I had just turned onto a steep hill (not far from my home) and was going through second gear in my BJ8. SNAP !!!! The loud snap under my arse was followed by a rapid grinding sound, which I immediately recognized (so I thought) as a drive shaft being pushed (not pulled) along the arsephalt. I'm sure it took me 0.76 of a second to bring the car to rest where I noticed the noise was gone and the engine was running smoothly. Upon inspection there was nothing hanging loose so I started it up (no noise) put it in gear (no noise) let out the clutch (no noise) and the car began forward. So I decided to limp home, rather than dragging my arse. When I turned the next corner the noise came on again loud and clear, but this time without the SNAP. Again I stopped, the noise subsided, and I started up again. I made it the few blocks back to my house using only first and second and being careful not to anger the little gremlin who might come through the floor and bite my arse. I think it might be a loose part in the gear box, or a broken clutch finger, but I'm really no expert. Do any of you have an idea? The irony here is that I was on my way to Monroe, which is where John Esposito's shop is. Please reply to adamnolde at yahoo.com adam nolde HBJ8L30805 BN6L 2795 From Editorgary at aol.com Sat Jul 10 12:25:10 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:25:10 EDT Subject: [Healeys] 100M? Message-ID: <198e7.31af11d0.396a1506@aol.com> In a message dated 7/10/10 11:04:45 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Yep I read that article. No doubt the timing was to coincide with the > auction > sale. Interesting debate about whether it is really a factory 100M even > though > a BN1. Should provide some controversy. Obviously the claim doesn,t hurt > the > auction marketing either; > I don't know how many times we have to cover this same ground. 1. We know for a fact that the Le Mans Kit was available to be installed on BN1s, and that DHMCo advertised that fact. 2. We know for a fact that many customers who bought their BN1s in the Midlands area could have had DHMCo install the Le Mans Kit either before they picked up the car or just after they purchased it. In one of his books, Geoff Healey says that he thinks there may have been as many of those modifications made at The Cape Works as they did after the introduction of the BN2 100Ms 3.To my knowledge, the term 100M was not used in any brochures or advertising until the BN2s with the kit installed as a factory option were introduced at Earls Court in fall 1955. THEREFORE, we can reasonably conclude that this is an interesting car, with its LeMans kit installed in period by DHMCo. That certainly should help its value. But we also know that this is not a "100M" because the term hadn't been invented at the time this car had its modification kit installed. Why have these facts and conclusions not yet penetrated the otherwise knowledgeable folks who continue to write about these cars is beyond me? Cheers gary From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Jul 10 12:44:49 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:44:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Logo plates Message-ID: <083501cb205f$fa0562b0$ee102810$@verizon.net> OK here is one that I have never seen before. I got a request from a Healey owner in Sweden asking several things one of which is the logo plate on the boot lid. It says "Austin Healey and immediately below that is "Motor Works" I have put a photo of it on the first page of my site. Scroll down to see it. Any thoughts? Is this original or someone's idea of what should have been there? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Sat Jul 10 12:59:45 2010 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:59:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100M? References: <198e7.31af11d0.396a1506@aol.com> Message-ID: <75B184FFED0E4E2FB239EBEC96DE3D37@your4dacd0ea75> "THEREFORE, we can reasonably conclude that this is an interesting car, with its LeMans kit installed in period by DHMCo." "Why have these facts and conclusions not yet penetrated the otherwise knowledgeable folks who continue to write about these cars is beyond me?" You have presented some facts, but not evidence for this conclusion on this specific car.? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M? > In a message dated 7/10/10 11:04:45 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > >> Yep I read that article. No doubt the timing was to coincide with the >> auction >> sale. Interesting debate about whether it is really a factory 100M even >> though >> a BN1. Should provide some controversy. Obviously the claim doesn,t hurt >> the >> auction marketing either; >> > I don't know how many times we have to cover this same ground. > 1. We know for a fact that the Le Mans Kit was available to be installed > on > BN1s, and that DHMCo advertised that fact. > 2. We know for a fact that many customers who bought their BN1s in the > Midlands area could have had DHMCo install the Le Mans Kit either before > they > picked up the car or just after they purchased it. In one of his books, > Geoff > Healey says that he thinks there may have been as many of those > modifications made at The Cape Works as they did after the introduction of > the BN2 100Ms > 3.To my knowledge, the term 100M was not used in any brochures or > advertising until the BN2s with the kit installed as a factory option were > introduced > at Earls Court in fall 1955. > > THEREFORE, we can reasonably conclude that this is an interesting car, > with > its LeMans kit installed in period by DHMCo. That certainly should help > its > value. But we also know that this is not a "100M" because the term hadn't > been invented at the time this car had its modification kit installed. > > Why have these facts and conclusions not yet penetrated the otherwise > knowledgeable folks who continue to write about these cars is beyond me? > > Cheers > gary From Editorgary at aol.com Sat Jul 10 13:12:24 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:12:24 EDT Subject: [Healeys] 100M? Message-ID: <1b65e.421e0e9b.396a2018@aol.com> In a message dated 7/10/10 11:59:47 AM, dcongleton at embarqmail.com writes: > "THEREFORE, we can reasonably conclude that this is an interesting car, > with > its LeMans kit installed in period by DHMCo." > "Why have these facts and conclusions not yet penetrated the otherwise > knowledgeable folks who continue to write about these cars is beyond me?" > > > You have presented some facts, but not evidence for this conclusion on > this > specific car.? > Okay, sorry for the shorthand. The article establishes the information that this car is a BN1 and has a period-installed Le Mans Kit and then goes on to speculate whether it is or is not a real 100M. The important point is that it is not, can not, be a 100M because the term hadn't been coined when that car was sold. Nevertheless, it's still cool. Gary From RCT2BNC at aol.com Sat Jul 10 13:27:25 2010 From: RCT2BNC at aol.com (RCT2BNC at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:27:25 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Logo plates Message-ID: <1113b.579d8cec.396a239d@aol.com> John, I came across one of these on a BN7 I purchased in San Luis Obispo, CA 10 years ago. The seller removed it to research it's origin. Later I was told that these were from a dealer in the LA area and were made by the dealership for the cars they sold...truth? myth?...don't know. Ben Cohen Tucson BN1, BN7, BJ8 and 2xAN5 From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jul 10 13:31:25 2010 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 12:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] 100M? In-Reply-To: <1b65e.421e0e9b.396a2018@aol.com> Message-ID: <811539.25281.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> When you think about it, we car guys are just a little bit crazy. Consider the difference in value between a factory 100M, a car with a LeMans kit installed at the Cape, a car with a LeMans kit installed in period at a U.S. dealer, and a 100 that some guy installed a LeMans kit last week. Each will be pretty much the same car and perform the same, but what a difference in price! It's no different with run-of-the-mill Chevelle's turned into SSes, Tempests into GTOs and Mustangs turned into Shelbys. Don't get me wrong, I get just as excited in seeing a factory "M" as the next guy, but viewed objectively, it's a little bit nuts, isn't it? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 7/10/10, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: From: Editorgary at aol.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M? To: dcongleton at embarqmail.com, healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 3:12 PM In a message dated 7/10/10 11:59:47 AM, dcongleton at embarqmail.com writes: > "THEREFORE, we can reasonably conclude that this is an interesting car, > with > its LeMans kit installed in period by DHMCo." > "Why have these facts and conclusions not yet penetrated the otherwise > knowledgeable folks who continue to write about these cars is beyond me?" > > > You have presented some facts, but not evidence for this conclusion on > this > specific car.? > Okay, sorry for the shorthand. The article establishes the information that this car is a BN1 and has a period-installed Le Mans Kit and then goes on to speculate whether it is or is not a real 100M. The important point is that it is not, can not, be a 100M because the term hadn't been coined when that car was sold. Nevertheless, it's still cool. Gary _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jul 10 13:39:49 2010 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 12:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Logo plates In-Reply-To: <083501cb205f$fa0562b0$ee102810$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <880357.75358.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Puzzzling. Looks to be an original emblem, but where would the "Austin-Healey Motor Works" be located? There was the Healey works at the Cape and the BMC "works" at Longbridge and Abingdon. But an "Austin-Healey works" is a new one on me. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 7/10/10, John Sims wrote: From: John Sims Subject: [Healeys] Logo plates To: "Healey List" Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 2:44 PM OK here is one that I have never seen before. I got a request from a Healey owner in Sweden asking several things one of which is the logo plate on the boot lid. It says "Austin Healey and immediately below that is "Motor Works" I have put a photo of it on the first page of my site. Scroll down to see it. Any thoughts? Is this original or someone's idea of what should have been there? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Sat Jul 10 13:43:44 2010 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:43:44 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 100M? In-Reply-To: <811539.25281.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1b65e.421e0e9b.396a2018@aol.com> <811539.25281.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011B0E05016E@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Rick, You are fully right. On this side of the big pond we do not care that much about a factory 100M or an "ordinary" 100 or whatever "Le Mans kit" by whom fitted. The quality the car is restored makes the winner. I know of a handful BN1s officially factory sold with the Le Mans kit. As far as I know the cold air boxes of these cars were of zinc instead of aluminium of the later 100M cars. I have seen one of these factory 100 "Le Mans kit" cars. And BMIHT knows of them as you can get a certificate which states "factory fitted Le Mans kit". But anyway, for me these cars are 100s and nothing different (I think the same of the so called 100Ms). Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 14:16:38 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:16:38 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Logo plates In-Reply-To: <083501cb205f$fa0562b0$ee102810$@verizon.net> References: <083501cb205f$fa0562b0$ee102810$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Very handsome. Most likely a dealer emblem, factory emblems were VERY OFTEN replaced with dealer emblems in the 1960's and 1970's in the US. This should qualify as original by the concours committee. Alan On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:44 PM, John Sims wrote: > OK here is one that I have never seen before. I got a request from a Healey > owner in Sweden asking several things one of which is the logo plate on the > boot lid. It says "Austin Healey and immediately below that is "Motor > Works" > > I have put a photo of it on the first page of my site. Scroll down to see > it. Any thoughts? Is this original or someone's idea of what should have > been there? > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Sat Jul 10 14:58:31 2010 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 13:58:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Grill Quality? Message-ID: I would be interested on opinions of the quality of the grills available from our usual suppliers for my BN7. I have a fairly nice one (original) but it does not shine up like the rest of the car and the only option I see is to purchase a new one. Any comments? Ron Fine 61BN7 From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Jul 10 15:49:27 2010 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:49:27 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?tri-carb?= Message-ID: <20100710214927.8161.qmail@server278.com> got a reply from the guy with the bt7. he says he is laid up in the hospital in great falls, mt after a bad accident. i told him i wanted to see car and let me know where we could meet. today i get a notice from ebay that says i am approved to buy an austin-healey and for me to pay $8500. i would pay that amount if i could drive off with the car, but i sure did not just fall off the turnip truck. the account holder has some african name, so i am sure nigeria is involved. not sure how i negate this authorization, but i am now in the process. wonder whose car it is? hjim From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Jul 10 16:48:59 2010 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:48:59 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?tricarb_bj8?= Message-ID: <20100710224859.4986.qmail@server278.com> well, it was a spoof. nothing had been screwed with on my ebay account. i guess he figured i was fish when i sent the request to see the car. i really want to see what kind of excuse he would make about the car not being in vegas. there was another one recently on ebay that i requested to see it since it was in henderson, but the address was bogus and i never heard anymore from him. hjim From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 5 12:14:56 2010 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:14:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Email list bounces Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20100705111157.01fe4c20@pop.att.yahoo.com> Mark, I have not been receiving list emails for several for about a week now. I checked my account settings at the website and it stated that my bounce score was 3.0 out of 5.0. I have not seen the bounce messages so I don't know what the error code is. I have checked the settings in my email program, run some virus scans (all clear) and checked firewalls etc. There should not be anything blocking list emails on my side that I know of. I also tried to unsubscribe (successful) then subscribe again. I have not received a confirmation so I believe it was not successful. Can you help restore the list emails to me? Thank you, John Spaur From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Jul 10 18:09:17 2010 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 00:09:17 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Fw=3A_Healey_Rendevous?= Message-ID: <20100711000917.16619.qmail@server278.com> pictures i took at the rendevous. the the first one(blue fender) was a misfire, all the rest were good. hjim > -------Original Message------- > From: Tony Shope > To: Jim Shope > Subject: Healey Rendevous > Sent: Jul 06 '10 03:17 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 221.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 225.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 229.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 233.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 222.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 226.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 230.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 219.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 223.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 227.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 231.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 220.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 224.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 228.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vacation 2010 232.JPG] From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 10 18:25:34 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:25:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: [Spridgets] well written ad...Buick or MGB-GT? Hmmmm] Message-ID: <4C390F7E.6010609@justbrits.com> I know NOTHING other then info below and on the CL page. NFI, YMMV, FYI, yada, yada, yada !!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [with MGA & MGB stuff listed ! ] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Spridgets] well written ad...Buick or MGB-GT? Hmmmm Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:41:57 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Spridgets at autox.team.net http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1833891747.html Edward P. Snohomish, WA 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ _______________________________________________ From mark at bradakis.com Sat Jul 10 18:26:34 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:26:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Healey Rendevous In-Reply-To: <20100711000917.16619.qmail@server278.com> References: <20100711000917.16619.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4C390FBA.20804@bradakis.com> The Team.Net mailing lists do not allow photos to be mailed out. The Team.Net forums, http://www.team.net/forums allow photos. mjb. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 19:17:42 2010 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:17:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Logo plates In-Reply-To: References: <083501cb205f$fa0562b0$ee102810$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Hi All, "Austin Healey Motor Works" A pseudo restoration shop owned and operated by one Neil Torr here in San Diego some years ago (late 1980's as I recall.) Nothing special. Show up with that on your Concours car and I will deduct 100% for originality ;-) Cheers, Curt Chairman - Austin Healey Concours Committee On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Very handsome. > > Most likely a dealer emblem, factory emblems were VERY OFTEN replaced with > dealer emblems in the 1960's and 1970's in the US. > > This should qualify as original by the concours committee. > > Alan > > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:44 PM, John Sims wrote: > > > OK here is one that I have never seen before. I got a request from a > Healey > > owner in Sweden asking several things one of which is the logo plate on > the > > boot lid. It says "Austin Healey and immediately below that is "Motor > > Works" > > > > I have put a photo of it on the first page of my site. Scroll down to see > > it. Any thoughts? Is this original or someone's idea of what should have > > been there? > > > > John Sims, BN6 > > Aberdeen, NJ From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Jul 10 20:30:13 2010 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:30:13 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?pics?= Message-ID: <20100711023013.16719.qmail@server278.com> sorry about that. forgot attachments get stripped. hjim From haywoodone at hotmail.com Sat Jul 10 20:34:53 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:34:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Day 2 of Conclave Adventure Message-ID: Well friends, this is day 2 of our trip to Galena. Today's (Friday-I'm a day late on this report remember) journey took us from West Jefferson, NC thru the rest of the NC mountains, Western Va & Ky Mountains, and on to Winchester, Ky just East of Lexington, Ky. We woke up to a nice morning with cool temps--great for top down driving so that's what we did. I got lucky and chose some very nice Healey roads to cross those peaks. First we gassed up and stopped @ the local IGA store to get fresh fruit and drinks for the day, then headed out. The AM driving was perfect as was the scenery. We headed N on Hwy 221 to Alt 58 and headed west. You just can't describe the beauty of these hills. It was overcast so we couldn't see the mountain tops but that brought cool temps. We especially enjoyed the flowers growing alongside of the roads. Beautiful lavender, white, bright red, and some yellow flowers were all around us. I can't imagine anyone planting all those so I guess they would be called wild flowers. We made a left turn in Va somewhere and noticed a woman hitch hiking. She put her thumb down when we turned so I pulled off to ask her why she dropped her thumb so fast. We struck up a conversation and found that she was traveling by thumb across the country in a crisscross pattern. She started in Ohio and had been to the NE states already and now headed west. She was on a solo missionary trip spreading the Gospel. We wished her good luck and safety and went on our merry way. The Healey was running fine again and pulled up those mountain roads effortlessly with a low note that rumbled so sweetly in the morning air. Continued in additional parts. George & Sherry _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From haywoodone at hotmail.com Sat Jul 10 21:36:19 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:36:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Day 2 to Conclave Part-2 Message-ID: A little after noon I noticed I had missed a turn and pulled into a small town to back track a bit. We came upon a Dairy Queen and decided to have lunch there. While we sat there eating, an elderly lady (about my age) came out of the rest room with the most perfect toilet paper tail hanging about down to the back of her knees. I mean it was perfectly centered. It was all I could do to keep from laughing but at the same time I felt sorry for her future embarrassment. Her husband was waiting in line next to her but didn't notice either. Finally a nice older lady politely told her and the matter was taken care of without incident. As our journey continued it began to sprinkle rain on us in the afternoon. We occasionally hit the wipers and continued on top down remembering what had happened the day before. I guess you could call us slow learners but we went on anyway and this time it paid off for a while. Never did it clear up but the trip was quite enjoyable and dry in the cockpit until just outside of Winchester, Ky when the drops became larger and more frequent. I saw a Marathon station on the opposite roadway and did a U turn to pull under their awning to put our top up. We just got things completed when it really came down on us for a while. By the time we pulled into the motel all precip had ended and we unloaded for the night. We found a local eatery called The Stage Coach Steak House and had a very nice meal--country cookin at it's best. We struck up a conversation with our waitress (server) and before it was all over she gave us a 10% discount for being new in town and prepared us some club sandwiches for the following days journey. My wife has a silver tongue!! After we ate we pulled across the street to wash off some road grime (Healey blue is ugly with grey road grime) at the local car wash then headed back to the motel. There we ran into the man (Joe Gibbs) who hauls cars for the Fed-Ex NASCAR Team car number 11. He was interested in the Healey and we found out he was from Huntersville, NC also. He has a busy schedule hauling cars all over for the various races and public events up and down the NASCAR highways (Gasoline Alley I think they are called) NICE RIG he has!! We turned in for the night after a Great Healey Day looking forward to another. George & Sherry Haywood '65 bj8 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 23:24:09 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 07:24:09 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Logo plates In-Reply-To: References: <083501cb205f$fa0562b0$ee102810$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Darn!! On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Hi All, > > "Austin Healey Motor Works" A pseudo restoration shop owned and operated > by one Neil Torr here in San Diego some years ago (late 1980's as I recall.) > > Nothing special. Show up with that on your Concours car and I will deduct > 100% for originality ;-) > > Cheers, > > Curt > Chairman - Austin Healey Concours Committee From haywoodone at hotmail.com Sat Jul 10 23:26:07 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:26:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Day 3 of Conclave Adventure Message-ID: Today's journey started out in damp conditions after having rained during the night. Oh, our room looked like a laundry with a broken dryer last night with the passenger side floor mats hanging along with multiple microfiber cloths where ever they could drip without messing up any furnishings. Since the top was still wet and we were going to travel on I-64 for around 100 miles we drove top up (hood up, sorry). Today we went from Winchester, Ky thru In, to Springfield, Il (Lincoln's stomping grounds). We left the mountains of Ky yesterday and went into the bluegrass hills today. Although we spent the first couple of hours on Interstate the farms traversed were sometimes quite grand with huge homes and horse barns. Horses are everywhere lounging around leisurely chewing on lush Ky bluegrass. We even passed by a retirement home for thoroughbreds-no glue factory for those guys. There were many large estates with For Sale signs posted along the highway. Guess times can be tough all over. As we passed around Louisville we saw many bridges crossing the Ohio River and also noticed the Louisville Slugger bat standing above the store tops to our left. The buildings of downtown were very impressive architecturally. Indiana was a continuation of Ky at first with beautiful horse farms and then the scenery changed the farther North we traveled. What were horse farms became fields of corn, soy beans, and hay. Eventually just corn and beans were all we observed. About every 15-20 miles we came to small well kept towns. In the countryside I expected to see Pat Boone speeding down a dirt road through the corn fields. We even came upon a county fair with a farris wheel, dirt horse racing track and all. The only thing missing for me was the cotton candy and candied apples. One town called Loogootee, In. sported BO-MAC'S Drive In. We pulled up and a car hop came out to take our ice cream order. It was warm in the sun so we put up our umbrella to give us shade. She took pictures of that site, we laughed, ate our ice cream and drove on. We passed into Il. and stopped in the town of Marshall when we saw a rustic log cabin on the main drag being used as the visitor's center. I went inside, signed the log and got a pencil as a memento. We took some pics, sat in the shade for a while checking the map for our final leg today and got back on the road. From there on to Springfield things became quite flat and corn fields as far as you could see. We arrived at the motel @ around 5PM, had a nice dinner, and are about to fall asleep--oh wait, I hear snoring from the bed, guess I'm behind schedule tonight. Tomorrow we set out for Galena--will report in then. It's been wonderful so far. George & Sherry Haywood _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sun Jul 11 01:43:57 2010 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 08:43:57 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Grill Quality? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000f01cb20cc$d2545330$76fcf990$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> I bought mine from :- http://www.ahead4healeys.co.uk/ It was/is first class. Some of our suppliers, in UK, offer two....one at around #90 and one at around #150. The cheap one is presumably rubbish and in some instances the other one is rubbish too! It's a ghastly job so you wouldn't want to go to all that trouble to fit a cheap horror. If you do decide to bite this particular bullet, let me know and I'll send you what info I collected on the job. Simon Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: 10 July 2010 21:59 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Grill Quality? I would be interested on opinions of the quality of the grills available from our usual suppliers for my BN7. I have a fairly nice one (original) but it does not shine up like the rest of the car and the only option I see is to purchase a new one. Any comments? Ron Fine 61BN7 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Sun Jul 11 01:52:42 2010 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 08:52:42 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100M? In-Reply-To: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011B0E05016E@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <1b65e.421e0e9b.396a2018@aol.com> <811539.25281.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011B0E05016E@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Message-ID: <0INBpQBKhXOMFwsk@jharper.demon.co.uk> Josef I am the same side of the pond as you and don't agree. I for one do care. In my experience most owners are interested in accuracy and authenticity and are therefore keen to know the history of their car including such things as what model and what interesting features have been added. Most owners strive towards their car being original as possible and their efforts should be rewarded. One thing I believe that has been missed. BN2 100Ms only differ from a standard BN2 by engine modifications, louvred bonnet and strap, a two tone paint job and little else. Le Mans kits for BN1s had a much longer and largely different list of features. If you have seen a BMIHT certificate for BN1 that says 'Le Mans Kit fitted' I would appreciate you sending me a copy please because I have never seen one. However if it did say this, it would be somewhat meaningless unless it listed the actual features. As regards the early air boxes they were also aluminium but thinner material and had steel stiffening plates riveted inside where the box mated with the two carburettors. The aluminium fractured with age. Regards >You are fully right. On this side of the big pond we do not care that much >about a factory 100M or an "ordinary" 100 or whatever "Le Mans kit" by whom >fitted. The quality the car is restored makes the winner. >I know of a handful BN1s officially factory sold with the Le Mans kit. As far >as I know the cold air boxes of these cars were of zinc instead of aluminium >of the later 100M cars. I have seen one of these factory 100 "Le Mans kit" >cars. And BMIHT knows of them as you can get a certificate which states >"factory fitted Le Mans kit". >But anyway, for me these cars are 100s and nothing different (I think the same >of the so called 100Ms). > >Josef Eckert >Konigswinter/Germany >_______________________________________________ >Healeys at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ah at jharper.demon.co.uk -- John Harper From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jul 11 06:43:04 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 05:43:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100M? In-Reply-To: <0INBpQBKhXOMFwsk@jharper.demon.co.uk> References: <1b65e.421e0e9b.396a2018@aol.com> <811539.25281.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011B0E05016E@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> <0INBpQBKhXOMFwsk@jharper.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <4C39BC58.9060901@comcast.net> Since you stirred the pot ... re: "One thing I believe that has been missed. BN2 100Ms only differ from a standard BN2 by engine modifications, louvred bonnet and strap, a two tone paint job and little else. Le Mans kits for BN1s had a much longer and largely different list of features. " From my AHCUSA "2009 Resource Book" "The principle elements of the kits were: - Twin 1 3/4-inch H6 SU carburetors - Aluminum intake manifolds - Carburetor cold air box and special air tube - High-lift camshaft - Distributor with modified automatic advance curve - Steel-faced cylinder head gasket - Valve spring, cups and seats; various gaskets and hardware" The factory 100M--1159 built, 640 documented--"were also fitted with: - 8.1:1 high compression pistons - Race-type anti-roll bar (1/2-inch) - Louvered bonnet and Le Mans regulation leather bonnet strap - Two-tone paint (in most cases)" The part number of the kit was P.280 sold beginning in late 1953. The kit resulted in a (dyno'd) 102 bhp, the high compression pistons brought the power up to 110 bhp. bs John Harper wrote: > Josef > > I am the same side of the pond as you and don't agree. I for one do care. > > In my experience most owners are interested in accuracy and > authenticity and are therefore keen to know the history of their car > including such things as what model and what interesting features have > been added. Most owners strive towards their car being original as > possible and their efforts should be rewarded. > > One thing I believe that has been missed. BN2 100Ms only differ from a > standard BN2 by engine modifications, louvred bonnet and strap, a two > tone paint job and little else. > > Le Mans kits for BN1s had a much longer and largely different list of > features. > > If you have seen a BMIHT certificate for BN1 that says 'Le Mans Kit > fitted' I would appreciate you sending me a copy please because I have > never seen one. However if it did say this, it would be somewhat > meaningless unless it listed the actual features. > > As regards the early air boxes they were also aluminium but thinner > material and had steel stiffening plates riveted inside where the box > mated with the two carburettors. The aluminium fractured with age. > > Regards > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From britishcars at shaw.ca Sun Jul 11 08:35:34 2010 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 07:35:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch - stupid mistake?? Message-ID: <000801cb2106$52531c90$f6f955b0$@ca> I've replaced the carbon based throw-out bearing with a DW roller bearing on my BJ8 (Diaphram Clutch). I've set it up to speck..I've lengthened the rod on the slave such that there is only 1/8" of play with the plunger on the slave fully depressed. I cannot lengthen the rod any longer. I've taken the inspection plate off (metal plate that fork rubber boot attaches to) and had a look at the articulation of the bearing against the diaphragm..everything looks fine. HOWEVER, Clutch does not disengage when pedal is fully depressed...the input shaft is always turning..can't change gears. I've changed many a clutch in my life and I've never come across this problem. I have a suspicion of what the problem is (somewhat embarrassing) and wanted some feedback before I pull the transmission (again!!) and verify. Is it possible that I have the clutch disc in backwards?? Would that give me these symptoms. A thousand curses upon anybody who laughs at me and my stupidity!! Thanks Paul From richard.ewald at gmail.com Sun Jul 11 09:50:42 2010 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 08:50:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch - stupid mistake?? In-Reply-To: <000801cb2106$52531c90$f6f955b0$@ca> References: <000801cb2106$52531c90$f6f955b0$@ca> Message-ID: <4EF1A96C-65EA-4B3B-A89C-E5F5A31799F5@gmail.com> Not laughing. Been there done that. We used to say there were. Two types of guys working on LBCs, those that have installed a clutch backward and those that will. Yes you can put the disc in backwards and if you do the clutch won't disengage. Before you pull the trany is the there wear on the pedal or clutch lever that is introducing slop into the system? Good luck Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2010, at 7:35, "PG" wrote: > I've replaced the carbon based throw-out bearing with a DW roller > bearing > on my BJ8 (Diaphram Clutch). > > > > I've set it up to speck..I've lengthened the rod on the slave such > that > there is only 1/8" of play with the plunger on the slave fully > depressed. I > cannot lengthen the rod any longer. > > > > I've taken the inspection plate off (metal plate that fork rubber boot > attaches to) and had a look at the articulation of the bearing > against the > diaphragm..everything looks fine. > > > > HOWEVER, Clutch does not disengage when pedal is fully > depressed...the > input shaft is always turning..can't change gears. > > > > I've changed many a clutch in my life and I've never come across this > problem. > > > > I have a suspicion of what the problem is (somewhat embarrassing) > and wanted > some feedback before I pull the transmission (again!!) and verify. > > > > Is it possible that I have the clutch disc in backwards?? Would > that give > me these symptoms. > > > > A thousand curses upon anybody who laughs at me and my stupidity!! > > > > Thanks > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Jul 11 10:08:05 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:08:05 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch - stupid mistake?? In-Reply-To: <000801cb2106$52531c90$f6f955b0$@ca> References: <000801cb2106$52531c90$f6f955b0$@ca> Message-ID: <4C39EC65.2080905@chello.nl> You would not be the first idiot that has done it. It actually happened twice to me and many other very experienced or professional people. The symptoms are that you did what you already suspected. However, are you sure that the relevant dimensions of both bearings are the same? There is not that much room for adjustment usually. Kees Oudesluijs NL PG wrote: > I've replaced the carbon based throw-out bearing with a DW roller bearing > on my BJ8 (Diaphram Clutch). > > > > I've set it up to speck..I've lengthened the rod on the slave such that > there is only 1/8" of play with the plunger on the slave fully depressed. I > cannot lengthen the rod any longer. > > > > I've taken the inspection plate off (metal plate that fork rubber boot > attaches to) and had a look at the articulation of the bearing against the > diaphragm..everything looks fine. > > > > HOWEVER, Clutch does not disengage when pedal is fully depressed...the > input shaft is always turning..can't change gears. > > > > I've changed many a clutch in my life and I've never come across this > problem. > > > > I have a suspicion of what the problem is (somewhat embarrassing) and wanted > some feedback before I pull the transmission (again!!) and verify. > > > > Is it possible that I have the clutch disc in backwards?? Would that give > me these symptoms. > > > > A thousand curses upon anybody who laughs at me and my stupidity!! > > > > Thanks > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2995 - datum van uitgifte: 07/10/10 21:59:00 From bcrist at club-internet.fr Sun Jul 11 11:40:10 2010 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:40:10 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] 100M? Message-ID: <32093131.945431278870010876.JavaMail.www@wsfrf1123> Actually, the Le Mans kit involved a bit more than that. Look at this page (third of the page) http://www.classic-sport-cars.net/spip.php?article57 Bernard Back from "Le Mans Classic" Never saw so much classic cars and great ones, believe you me Bob Spidell a C)crit : > > Since you stirred the pot ... > > re: > "One thing I believe that has been missed. BN2 100Ms only differ from a standard BN2 by engine modifications, louvred bonnet and strap,B a two tone paint job and little else. > > Le Mans kits for BN1s had a much longer and largely different list of features. " > > > From my AHCUSA "2009 Resource Book" > > "The principle elements of the kits were: > - Twin 1 3/4-inch H6 SU carburetors > - Aluminum intake manifolds > - Carburetor cold air box and special air tube > - High-lift camshaft > - Distributor with modified automatic advance curve > - Steel-faced cylinder head gasket > - Valve spring, cups and seats; various gaskets and hardware" > > The factory 100M--1159 built, 640 documented--"were also fitted with: > > - 8.1:1 high compression pistons > - Race-type anti-roll bar (1/2-inch) > - Louvered bonnet and Le Mans regulation leather bonnet strap > - Two-tone paint (in most cases)" > > > The part number of the kit was P.280 sold beginning in late 1953.B The kit resulted in a (dyno'd) 102 bhp, the high compression pistons brought the power up to 110 bhp. > > > bs > > > John Harper wrote: >> Josef >> >> I am the same side of the pond as you and don't agree. I for one do care. >> >> In my experience most owners are interested in accuracy and authenticity and are therefore keen to know the history of their car including such things as what model and what interesting features have been added. Most owners strive towards their car being original as possible and their efforts should be rewarded. >> >> One thing I believe that has been missed. BN2 100Ms only differ from a standard BN2 by engine modifications, louvred bonnet and strap,B a two tone paint job and little else. >> >> Le Mans kits for BN1s had a much longer and largely different list of features. >> >> If you have seen a BMIHT certificate for BN1 that says 'Le Mans Kit fitted' I would appreciate you sending me a copy please because I have never seen one. However if it did say this, it would be somewhat meaningless unless it listed the actual features. >> >> As regards the early air boxes they were also aluminium but thinner material and had steel stiffening plates riveted inside where the box mated with the two carburettors. The aluminium fractured with age. >> >> Regards >> > ******************************************************************* > Bob SpidellB B B B B B B B B B San Jose, CAB B B B B B B B B B B bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 11 12:39:15 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:39:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch - stupid mistake?? In-Reply-To: <4EF1A96C-65EA-4B3B-A89C-E5F5A31799F5@gmail.com> References: <000801cb2106$52531c90$f6f955b0$@ca> <4EF1A96C-65EA-4B3B-A89C-E5F5A31799F5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C3A0FD3.6090502@justbrits.com> << Not laughing. Been there done that. >> Amen, Rick !!! << We used to say there were. Two types of guys working on LBCs, those that have installed a clutch backward and those that will. >> And THAT is gospel !!! And Paul, think of MY 'chances' as I work on all sorts of LBCs, nor just Healeys !!! << Yes you can put the disc in backwards and if you do the clutch won't disengage. >> Yep !! << Before you pull the trany is the there wear on the pedal or clutch lever that is introducing slop into the system? >> And Paul, that STARTS with the Pedal Bushings, the 1st 'rod', holes in the M/C Cyl. rod's 'fork', and so on. NOT uncommon to see Clevis Pins worn badly and/or the forks. I HAVE seen pedals that have ovals in stead of ROUND holes, Clevis Pins worn almost half-way thru and rods with worn ends. So like Rick said, check-out the entire mechanical linkage BEFORE pulling the tranny. And if you DO have to pull it, check out the bell housing clutch fork AND it's bushes and shaft !!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] From quenty at ntelos.net Sun Jul 11 14:25:38 2010 From: quenty at ntelos.net (Quentin Schweninger) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:25:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Perhaps this is what Haywood was witnessing. References: Message-ID: <4F4891C4-30AE-419D-AD49-7318BA1C53B9@ntelos.net> > > Three Ladies in a Sauna > > > > THREE WOMEN, TWO YOUNGER, AND ONE SENIOR CITIZEN, WERE SITTING > NAKED IN A > > SAUNA. > > > > SUDDENLY THERE WAS A BEEPING SOUND. THE YOUNG WOMAN PRESSED HER > FOREARM AND > > THE > > BEEP STOPPED. > > > > THE OTHERS LOOKED AT HER QUESTIONINGLY. 'THAT WAS MY PAGER,' SHE > SAID. I > > HAVE A MICROCHIP UNDER THE SKIN OF MY ARM. > > > > A FEW MINUTES LATER, A PHONE RANG. THE SECOND YOUNG WOMAN LIFTED > HER PALM TO > > HER EAR.. > > > > WHEN SHE FINISHED, SHE EXPLAINED, 'THAT WAS MY MOBILE PHONE. I > HAVE A > > MICROCHIP IN MY HAND.' > > > > THE OLDER WOMAN FELT VERY LOW -TECH. NOT TO BE OUT DONE, SHE > DECIDED SHE HAD > > TO DO SOMETHING JUST AS IMPRESSIVE. SHE STEPPED OUT OF THE SAUNA > AND WENT TO > > THE BATHROOM.. > > > > SHE RETURNED WITH A PIECE OF TOILET PAPER HANGING FROM HER REAR END. > > > > THE OTHERS RAISED THEIR EYEBROWS AND STARED AT HER. > > > > THE OLDER WOMAN FINALLY SAID..........WELL, WILL YOU LOOK AT > THAT......I'M > > GETTING A > > FAX!! > > > > When you stop laughing, send this to those who will appreciate it. > Gotta > > love the old gals!!!! From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jul 11 14:30:31 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:30:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100M? In-Reply-To: <32093131.945431278870010876.JavaMail.www@wsfrf1123> References: <32093131.945431278870010876.JavaMail.www@wsfrf1123> Message-ID: <4C3A29E7.40608@comcast.net> I don't see anything additional on that list that doesn't fall into the "various gaskets and hardware" category (in fact, I think the RB list is a summary of this list--note part# citation). Or am I missing something? Interesting document nonetheless (I especially like 'Rebuild the engine and set the tappets to 015"' ... like, fit a couple carbs and new new valve springs, and while you're at it rebuild the engine--so British). bs Bernard wrote: > Actually, the Le Mans kit involved a bit more than that. > > Look at this page (third of the page) > http://www.classic-sport-cars.net/spip.php?article57 > > Bernard > Back from "Le Mans Classic" > Never saw so much classic cars and great ones, believe you me > > > Bob Spidell a C)crit : > >> Since you stirred the pot ... >> >> re: >> "One thing I believe that has been missed. BN2 100Ms only differ from a >> > standard BN2 by engine modifications, louvred bonnet and strap,B a two tone > paint job and little else. > >> Le Mans kits for BN1s had a much longer and largely different list of >> > features. " > >> From my AHCUSA "2009 Resource Book" >> >> "The principle elements of the kits were: >> - Twin 1 3/4-inch H6 SU carburetors >> - Aluminum intake manifolds >> - Carburetor cold air box and special air tube >> - High-lift camshaft >> - Distributor with modified automatic advance curve >> - Steel-faced cylinder head gasket >> - Valve spring, cups and seats; various gaskets and hardware" >> >> The factory 100M--1159 built, 640 documented--"were also fitted with: >> >> - 8.1:1 high compression pistons >> - Race-type anti-roll bar (1/2-inch) >> - Louvered bonnet and Le Mans regulation leather bonnet strap >> - Two-tone paint (in most cases)" >> >> >> The part number of the kit was P.280 sold beginning in late 1953.B The kit >> > resulted in a (dyno'd) 102 bhp, the high compression pistons brought the power > up to 110 bhp. > >> bs >> >> ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From s.hutchings at rogers.com Sun Jul 11 17:00:44 2010 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:00:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Engine ID rivets Message-ID: I know that there is a trick to removing the engine ID number tag's rivets, and I wonder if anyone could enlighten me? I've searched through the archives, but I only found a refernce to a how-to article that I don't have acccess to. Stephen, BJ8 From healeyray at yahoo.com Sun Jul 11 17:12:09 2010 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] carb brace Message-ID: <8833.7771.qm@web111405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> List Somewhere during the never ending resto of my 100, one of my carburetor braces has gone missing. ( the strap from the manifold to the float bowel top bolt) I need the one with the dog leg bend. Anyone have a spare? Thanks Ray Juncal From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Jul 11 17:16:52 2010 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:16:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Engine ID rivets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004601cb214f$260cfef0$7226fcd0$@rr.com> Stephen, the rivets have a loose threaded shank. If you file a slot in the heads for a screwdriver you should be able to turn them out. An alternative approach is to file or grind the heads with a Dremel tool into a shape that will allow you to grip the head with a pair of Vise-grips or small pliers. I made the slots, and then used a screwdriver as an "impact" driver, keeping a loosening torque on the screwdriver while I tapped on it with a hammer. Mine came out without too much fuss. Soaking them with a penetrating oil beforehand might make it a little easier. British Car Specialists have the new rivets, I believe. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Hutchings Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:01 PM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Engine ID rivets I know that there is a trick to removing the engine ID number tag's rivets, and I wonder if anyone could enlighten me? I've searched through the archives, but I only found a refernce to a how-to article that I don't have acccess to. Stephen, BJ8 From bighealey at astound.net Sun Jul 11 18:55:25 2010 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:55:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Erika the Red on HD Theater Message-ID: <89E47002D82E4CBD9DAF33CAA4051540@JohnSoderling> Last night I tuned in to Wayne Carini's "Chasing Classic Cars" show on HD Theater. The program was titled "Monterey Week" and feature Wayne shipping his 1934 Bentley out to the Monterey peninsula to attend all the Pebble Beach area car show, auctions and the Monterey Historics auto races. Anyway, about five minutes into the show they had him driving his Bentley down 17-Mile-Drive with a string of classic cars passing in the other direction. Low and behold I saw me in my red 100-six, Erika the Red, approaching with my friends, blue over white 100-Six, two cars behind!!! Here is how we got in this HD Theater show. In August 2006 we entered our Austin Healeys in the Pacific Grove Classic Car Concours & Rally which is held each year during the big Monterey Week/Pebble Beach shindig. After the car show in Pacific Grove all participants then get to drive their cars in a rally along the famed 17-mile Drive ending in downtown Carmel. Apparently HD Theater was filming Wayne in his Bentley driving on 17-Mile Drive in the opposite direction and ended up using this clip of my car in the "Monterey Week" show. I guess Healeys make good TV footage! Vrooom vrooom, John From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Sun Jul 11 19:52:17 2010 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 21:52:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] carb brace In-Reply-To: <8833.7771.qm@web111405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <8833.7771.qm@web111405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Moss has them Ray. Part # 376-098 Michael Salter On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Ray Juncal wrote: > List > Somewhere during the never ending resto of my 100, one of my carburetor > braces has gone missing. ( the strap from the manifold to the float bowel top > bolt) I need the one with the dog leg bend. Anyone have a spare? > Thanks > Ray Juncal From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Sun Jul 11 21:00:26 2010 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:00:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Erika the Red on HD Theater In-Reply-To: <89E47002D82E4CBD9DAF33CAA4051540@JohnSoderling> References: <89E47002D82E4CBD9DAF33CAA4051540@JohnSoderling> Message-ID: john, congrats on your belated success and recognition. is it you or erika the red that just seems to alway turn up being noticed? cheers, jerry On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:55 PM, John Soderling wrote: > Last night I tuned in to Wayne Carini's "Chasing Classic Cars" show on HD > Theater. The program was titled "Monterey Week" and feature Wayne shipping > his 1934 Bentley out to the Monterey peninsula to attend all the Pebble > Beach > area car show, auctions and the Monterey Historics auto races. > > Anyway, about five minutes into the show they had him driving his Bentley > down > 17-Mile-Drive with a string of classic cars passing in the other direction. > Low and behold I saw me in my red 100-six, Erika the Red, approaching with > my > friends, blue over white 100-Six, two cars behind!!! Here is how we got in > this HD Theater show. > > In August 2006 we entered our Austin Healeys in the Pacific Grove Classic > Car > Concours & Rally which is held each year during the big Monterey > Week/Pebble > Beach shindig. After the car show in Pacific Grove all participants then > get > to > drive their cars in a rally along the famed 17-mile Drive ending in > downtown > Carmel. Apparently HD Theater was filming Wayne in his Bentley driving on > 17-Mile Drive in the opposite direction and ended up using this clip of my > car > in the "Monterey Week" show. I guess Healeys make good TV footage! > > Vrooom vrooom, > John > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon Jul 12 06:36:46 2010 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:36:46 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch - stupid mistake?? In-Reply-To: <000801cb2106$52531c90$f6f955b0$@ca> References: <000801cb2106$52531c90$f6f955b0$@ca> Message-ID: G'day Paul I had the same problem a few years back and lost count of the number of times I had to take the box out and text something. It turned to be the slave cylinder piston as its indent was much deeper than original and therefore there wasn't enough fulcrum travel for the lever. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of PG Sent: Monday, 12 July 2010 12:36 AM To: 'Healey Forum' Subject: [Healeys] Clutch - stupid mistake?? I've replaced the carbon based throw-out bearing with a DW roller bearing on my BJ8 (Diaphram Clutch). I've set it up to speck..I've lengthened the rod on the slave such that there is only 1/8" of play with the plunger on the slave fully depressed. I cannot lengthen the rod any longer. I've taken the inspection plate off (metal plate that fork rubber boot attaches to) and had a look at the articulation of the bearing against the diaphragm..everything looks fine. HOWEVER, Clutch does not disengage when pedal is fully depressed...the input shaft is always turning..can't change gears. I've changed many a clutch in my life and I've never come across this problem. I have a suspicion of what the problem is (somewhat embarrassing) and wanted some feedback before I pull the transmission (again!!) and verify. Is it possible that I have the clutch disc in backwards?? Would that give me these symptoms. A thousand curses upon anybody who laughs at me and my stupidity!! Thanks Paul _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au From jnhorn at aol.com Mon Jul 12 07:09:51 2010 From: jnhorn at aol.com (jnhorn at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:09:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fiberglass right rear fender Message-ID: <8CCEFDAA5F2CB7C-1960-19CDC@webmail-d078.sysops.aol.com> After (another) minor crash at an SCCA race last weekend (at NJMS), I need a fiberglass right rear (passenger side) fiberglass fender. Anyone have one? I usually have body parts shipped to me via Trailways which is cheaper and doesn't require wrapping. thanks jon einhorn BJ8 BJ8 racecar 100-6 From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Mon Jul 12 08:46:51 2010 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:46:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] dash light or lamps or bulbs Message-ID: Does anyone know of an led or at least a brighter bulb to replace those 2.2 w bulbs in the speedo, etc? Source? Mine are so dim that I can see the needles, but cannot really tell what they are pointing to. Thanks, Bob Johnson BJ8 From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 12 09:00:59 2010 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:00:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] carb brace In-Reply-To: <8833.7771.qm@web111405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <8833.7771.qm@web111405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0BF35D95-C0D7-4655-98B2-CB109DC1EF3B@sbcglobal.net> Ray, we have these available new. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 11, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Ray Juncal wrote: > List > Somewhere during the never ending resto of my 100, one of my > carburetor > braces has gone missing. ( the strap from the manifold to the > float bowel top > bolt) I need the one with the dog leg bend. Anyone have a spare? > Thanks > Ray Juncal > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 12 09:04:24 2010 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:04:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Engine ID rivets In-Reply-To: <004601cb214f$260cfef0$7226fcd0$@rr.com> References: <004601cb214f$260cfef0$7226fcd0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <899E46C1-3E5C-492F-81C8-C3ACA953B224@sbcglobal.net> you have to be very careful removing these rivets. The will break off and are made of hardend steel and you will not be able to drill out the rivet. It you take a sharp small chisel ground off at a sharp angle you can get underneath the rivet, then when it is up a little bit you can then turn them with a small pair of pliers. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 11, 2010, at 4:16 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Stephen, the rivets have a loose threaded shank. If you file a > slot in the > heads for a screwdriver you should be able to turn them out. An > alternative > approach is to file or grind the heads with a Dremel tool into a > shape that > will allow you to grip the head with a pair of Vise-grips or small > pliers. > > I made the slots, and then used a screwdriver as an "impact" > driver, keeping > a loosening torque on the screwdriver while I tapped on it with a > hammer. > Mine came out without too much fuss. Soaking them with a > penetrating oil > beforehand might make it a little easier. > > British Car Specialists have the new rivets, I believe. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Stephen Hutchings > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:01 PM > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Engine ID rivets > > I know that there is a trick to removing the engine ID number tag's > rivets, and I wonder if anyone could enlighten me? > I've searched through the archives, but I only found a refernce to a > how-to article that I don't have acccess to. > > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 12 09:08:58 2010 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:08:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fiberglass right rear fender In-Reply-To: <8CCEFDAA5F2CB7C-1960-19CDC@webmail-d078.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCEFDAA5F2CB7C-1960-19CDC@webmail-d078.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <962F28A6-5BB8-4165-AA76-63DA5FFE34B5@sbcglobal.net> I have a customer that has made carbon fiber fenders. I have been told they are a perfect match and only require bolted on. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 12, 2010, at 6:09 AM, jnhorn at aol.com wrote: > After (another) minor crash at an SCCA race last weekend (at NJMS), I > need a fiberglass right rear (passenger side) fiberglass fender. > Anyone > have one? I usually have body parts shipped to me via Trailways which > is cheaper and doesn't require wrapping. > > thanks > > jon einhorn > BJ8 > BJ8 racecar > 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From scvc70 at epix.net Mon Jul 12 09:39:19 2010 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:39:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help References: <5B911737F2424E5FBF204914DC14B405@S0026273562> <656FFF57501C4914830EA260083B43C2@GregPC> Message-ID: We're going to continue trying various penetrants combined with constant pressure (we had to get a larger/heavier C-clamp, as the one we started with actually bent under the strain!). There's no rust visible anywhere--the area was protected by the shifter control box, and the whole gearbox looks well cared-for--and we can't believe the pin withstands the kind of pressure we've been putting on it. (Look at Moss Motors' on-line catalog to see exactly what we're dealing with--pin #64, which holds lever #65 to shaft #70.) Fortunately we're in no hurry to get this thing apart. We'll report the eventual outcome.... Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Michael Salter" ; "Carr&Edwards" Cc: Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help >I posted before seeing Micheals note, if you can get a similar pin (I was >pictuiring the set up in my mind like it was pretty familar, then I read >Micheals note, bycycle crank pin, of course, the light went off in my head, >bing bing bing) I would defer to his knowledge an experience and go that >route, if you cut the thing off at the exit point you should be able to >drive it out with a punch, of if not start drilling since the part is now >toast anyway.. > > Good Luck From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jul 12 11:05:37 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:05:37 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] dash light or lamps or bulbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi \Bob - I've had similar problems with all my british cars. Recently, the purple dash lights on my Jag Mk IX were driving me nuts (same lamps) so I got some of the "e10 Superstar LEDs" herethese: http://superlumination.com/otherleds.htm These suckers are probably 3x as bright as a normal bulb. They also have *E10 Screw Base Inverted Lens Led Bulbs (toward the bottom of the page) * which look interesting but I haven't bought those... I suspect they are very bright too, and likely better for the smiths guages. Cheers, Alan On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: > Does anyone know of an led or at least a brighter bulb to replace > those 2.2 w bulbs in the speedo, etc? Source? Mine are so dim that I > can see the needles, but cannot really tell what they are pointing to. > > Thanks, > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From bj7ah at acanac.net Mon Jul 12 19:56:36 2010 From: bj7ah at acanac.net (Heal;ey) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:56:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] HELP - No Clutch In-Reply-To: <507187.27175.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <507187.27175.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Everyone I have put pictures of Conclave at this web address http://picasaweb.google.com/bobs63ah ( cut and paste into browser ) I will be posting more as they are taken. Bob 1963 bj7 -------------------------------------------------- From: "HealeyRick" Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:14 AM To: "Healey list" ; "John Soderling" Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP - No Clutch > Wonder if it could be the rubber slave cylinder hose swollen shut? If you > need a new cylinder, try Pegasus Racing, their prices on Girling parts are > much better than the usual suspects. > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Mon, 7/5/10, John Soderling wrote: > > From: John Soderling > Subject: [Healeys] HELP - No Clutch > To: "Healey list" > Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 9:53 AM > > On the way home to Walnut Creek, Ca from a great week at Healey Rendezvous > 2010 in Eugene, Oregon, I lost my clutch ( actually it was Erika the Red, > my > 100-six that lost her clutch) about 150 miles from home. When I checked > the > dual outlet clutch/brake tank, the clutch system had pumped additional > fluid > back into the tank to where it actually overflowed a little. > > So is it more likely a failed master cylinder or slave cylinder? I'm > thinking > the master, but not sure. Thanks. > > Vrooom vrooom, > John > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bj7ah at acanac.net From haywoodone at hotmail.com Mon Jul 12 22:28:59 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:28:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave final leg to Galena Message-ID: Sunday we slept in a while, left our room in Springfield, Il around 9:30 AM and toured the downtown area surrounding Lincoln's home. The entire neighborhood of about 5 or 6 blocks has been restored to original and the cobblestone streets are open only to pedestrians-plenty of picture ops. Very nicely done with people walking around in period clothing answering questions and telling the story. We car toured the rest of downtown and got on our way about 10:30 or 11. North we went on Hwy 97 in the cool late morning, top down by the way. The terrain was sort of flat at this point still tooling thru corn fields as far as we could see. Someplace just south of Havana (not Castro type) we came across a large field of sun flowers. I whipped the car around, thank goodness no one else was traveling near us, and pulled up onto the grass beside the flowers for several very nice pictures. At that moment a crop duster came barreling down on us landing approaching its runway. The plane was a yellow color exactly like the sun flowers, neat sight. We had already seen a couple of these crop dusters in action. They really maneuver quite well around obstacles such as power lines and buildings. I'm not completely sure but it sounded like one was powered by an electric motor so it may have been an RC built to full scale. Hate to be in a steep dive and have a recharge light come on the panel if it was manned. We ate lunch in Havana where we met some motorcycle tourists from Chicago. They admired the car and said we had about 350 miles to go before Galena. That worried me because I had figured we only had 252 mi. to go from Springfield and we had already traveled about 50 mi to Havana. We thought then we'd never get to Conclave before dark since it was already 2PM. Then we realized we had gone thru a time zone-we were still on EDT, made us feel a little better!! Soon we crossed the Il. River Bridge and the terrain changed abruptly to beautiful rolling hills. See part 2 George _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From haywoodone at hotmail.com Mon Jul 12 22:29:05 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:29:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave final leg to Galena Message-ID: Sunday we slept in a while, left our room in Springfield, Il around 9:30 AM and toured the downtown area surrounding Lincoln's home. The entire neighborhood of about 5 or 6 blocks has been restored to original and the cobblestone streets are open only to pedestrians-plenty of picture ops. Very nicely done with people walking around in period clothing answering questions and telling the story. We car toured the rest of downtown and got on our way about 10:30 or 11. North we went on Hwy 97 in the cool late morning, top down by the way. The terrain was sort of flat at this point still tooling thru corn fields as far as we could see. Someplace just south of Havana (not Castro type) we came across a large field of sun flowers. I whipped the car around, thank goodness no one else was traveling near us, and pulled up onto the grass beside the flowers for several very nice pictures. At that moment a crop duster came barreling down on us landing approaching its runway. The plane was a yellow color exactly like the sun flowers, neat sight. We had already seen a couple of these crop dusters in action. They really maneuver quite well around obstacles such as power lines and buildings. I'm not completely sure but it sounded like one was powered by an electric motor so it may have been an RC built to full scale. Hate to be in a steep dive and have a recharge light come on the panel if it was manned. We ate lunch in Havana where we met some motorcycle tourists from Chicago. They admired the car and said we had about 350 miles to go before Galena. That worried me because I had figured we only had 252 mi. to go from Springfield and we had already traveled about 50 mi to Havana. We thought then we'd never get to Conclave before dark since it was already 2PM. Then we realized we had gone thru a time zone-we were still on EDT, made us feel a little better!! Soon we crossed the Il. River Bridge and the terrain changed abruptly to beautiful rolling hills. See part 2 George _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From haywoodone at hotmail.com Mon Jul 12 23:43:03 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 01:43:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave final leg to Galena Part 2 Message-ID: We noticed water standing in quite large amounts in lower areas along the highway. We had asked our waitress in Havana about this and she said that those areas tend to flood frequently. She told a story of a developer that attempted to build a sub division in the area and sure enough the floods came and destroyed his unfinished dwellings. We could see completed block foundations all in a row like swimming pools one after the other only the water was on both sides of the walls. Bet he has some land for sale cheap. The further North we went the more rolling the hills became. The farmers kept the fields trimmed neatly mowing the grassy areas along the highway right up to the corn rows. This is something we don't usually see back east. The farmers plant to the utility set back and the state cuts the roadside several times during the growing season so there are times when the grasses get pretty high along the perimeter of the fields. Soon we merged onto I-74 and traveled over the Miss. River into Iowa exiting onto Hwy 67 toward Comanche,Ia. along the west side of the river. The bridge was under construction there so we couldn't get a look at the river below. We stopped at the welcome station in I believe it was Le Claire,Ia. The stretch of road along the river there was beautiful. There were very nice homes on both sides built right on the river with nice sized boats moored along the banks. The river was fairly wide there with plenty of commercial and leisure boat traffic. This went on for most of the trip to Comanche and then the road (hwy 52) pulled back off the river almost all the way up to Dubuque. It began to rain and the sky looked pretty angry so we put the top up and the rains came down. We drove the hilly countryside up to Dubuque without incident and crossed the Mis. River again back into Il and down hwy 20 to Galena, what a picturesque entrance along the Galena River. 7PM struck as we pulled into the parking lot to get registered. We left Springfield @ 11AM and pulled into Galena @ 7PM. It was suppose to take 5 1/2Hrs We can't account for the discrepancy in time but we did enjoy the journey. Our 1 Bed Rm. Apt. here is pretty nice and comfortable and we're enjoying Conclave and seeing people we've met @ prior Conclaves. We'll be here all week, will give an update later this week on our stay, then fill you in on our post Conclave Adventure to SD and then back to NC. Take care until then, George & Sherry Haywood _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From frankyow_99 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 13 13:37:57 2010 From: frankyow_99 at yahoo.com (frank yow) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vent Message-ID: <547281.43542.qm@web54506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have been considering better air flow for my BT7, want to achieve this with the hardtop on, better sun protection and , I hope, cooler. Both Cape international and AHSpares have the same rally vent, Bob Yule can supply from Autofarm, has anyone put one of these vents on a hardtop, how does it look and how well does it work. Seems like a nice addition if it doesnt spoil the look of the car. Frank Yow, 61 BT7, owned since 62. From bj7ah at acanac.net Tue Jul 13 13:44:49 2010 From: bj7ah at acanac.net (Heal;ey) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:44:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Day 3 Gymkana In-Reply-To: References: <507187.27175.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <10688387CF7542478E68C8A59169CA93@RobsTLT2PC> Hi Everyone I have put pictures of Conclave at this web address http://picasaweb.google.com/bobs63ah ( cut and paste into browser ) I will be posting more as they are taken. Bob 1963 bj7 From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Tue Jul 13 14:20:50 2010 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:20:50 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Bumper Message-ID: <000001cb22c8$e2f7df10$a8e79d30$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Thank you anyone who replied to my bumper query. I took a gamble and bought the back bumper from SC Parts who swore that it was up to the standard of the original. I'd say it is acceptably close. Lines up fine and looks good so far. So there you have it........ Simon From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Tue Jul 13 15:47:39 2010 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:47:39 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vent In-Reply-To: <547281.43542.qm@web54506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <547281.43542.qm@web54506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8DFB5A5D92DA44F6B3EA2AB0E6631B0F@Notebook> G'day Frank I'm just putting one of these in the hardtop for my 100. Mine came from a Series 3 Landrover that I parted out. It had one in each door - they are also used in the safari type roof (in which there are 4!) These are virtually the same as the "factory" ones, and looking at the prices asked for them (AH Spares Stg179.50, and there's one on Aussie Ebay for A$550!) a better bet if you can find one! Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz BN1 Ward Spl coupe BN1 Holden V6 -------------------------------------------------- From: "frank yow" Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:37 AM To: Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vent > I have been considering better air flow for my BT7, want to achieve this > with > the hardtop on, better sun protection and , I hope, cooler. Both Cape > international and AHSpares have the same rally vent, Bob Yule can supply > from > Autofarm, has anyone put one of these vents on a hardtop, how does it look > and > how well does it work. Seems like a nice addition if it doesnt spoil the > look of > the car. Frank Yow, 61 BT7, owned since 62. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/greylinn at ozemail.com.au From mslechta at chartermi.net Tue Jul 13 17:33:24 2010 From: mslechta at chartermi.net (Mike Slechta) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:33:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 4th Annual Hemmings Challenge TSD Vintage Car Rally Message-ID: <658827DF89F249F3BC5CFF96526BFF89@MikesLaptop> Hi all, Just reviewing the entries in this year's Hemmings TSD Rally scheduled for July 23rd thru 31st & centered in Bowling Green, KY. I see Bill & Sarah Richey of Bowling Green have entered their '67 BJ-8 in the "Rookie" class. Their competion number is 55. Are the Richey's listers? We have also entered, #53, but not in my or my driver's BJ-8s. We are in the "Sportsman" class & since the entries are "factored" by their age, I felt we would be better off in my '53 MG TD. Driver: Jim Bach of "Bach Racecrafters" & me, Mike Slechta (aka Mad Mike) retired (& tired) as Navigator. The last time the TD was in a Vintage Rally was in 2000 Great Race from Boston to Sacramento. No problems with the TD, but my 2000 Escalade support vehicle is another story (long). If you are interested or in the KY, TN or IN area, you can go to: http://www.vintagecarrally.com/hemmings2010-orig.html for lots more info. Also, if you do happen to stop by, make sure you give #'s 55 & 53 the high 5. We just happen to be the only LBC's entered. Wish us luck (we'll need it), Mad Mike & Jimmy B From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 13 17:35:26 2010 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:35:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Norman Nock's BGT for sale Message-ID: We have decided to sell my fathers 72 MGB GT. He purchased the car for a daily driver in 2006. When he purchased it the car had 30,000 miles on it. It know has 39,000 original miles. The paint is the original paint. He had done a mechanical restoration of what ever was needed to the car when he purchased it. It has new chrome wire wheels and overdrive. It has new interior, along with all the mechanical stuff that would have deteriorated while not being driven much over the years. I have posted photos on our web site. If you know anyone that would be interested in this car they can contact me at the shop. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 6 21:10:15 2010 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:10:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] No list emails Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20100706200701.020450c8@pop.att.yahoo.com> I stopped receiving lists emails about a week ago and have not been able to fix the problem. I checked the list website and noticed that my bounce score was 2.0 out of 5.0. I check my computer and everything is normal and I receive and send other emails. I unsubsribed and that was successful. I tried to resubscribe and it has not worked. I also sent MJB an email but he may not have had a chance to read it. What are people doing to fix list email problems? TIA John From mark at bradakis.com Tue Jul 13 21:57:58 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:57:58 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] No list emails In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20100706200701.020450c8@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20100706200701.020450c8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C3D35C6.8020108@bradakis.com> So are you getting email again from the list? mjb. From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Tue Jul 13 23:28:13 2010 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:28:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 overdrive for sale. Message-ID: i have done my home work and spoken to way too many people. for sale - offered to the list, then off to e bay. BJ8 overdrive complete. Los Angeles CA price : $600 or best offer. last used in a BJ8 owned by jim Albrect. convertd to Smitty 5 sped. it worked fine when removed. ron rader 310.337.7000 ext 1333 From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 13 23:19:31 2010 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:19:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] No list emails In-Reply-To: <4C3D35C6.8020108@bradakis.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20100706200701.020450c8@pop.att.yahoo.com> <4C3D35C6.8020108@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20100713221825.01feff08@pop.att.yahoo.com> I am receiving emails now. Thanks for asking! kind regards, John Spaur At 09:57 PM 7/13/2010 -0600, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >So are you getting email again from the list? > >mjb. >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html From derek.c.job at gmail.com Wed Jul 14 02:28:25 2010 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:28:25 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vent In-Reply-To: <8DFB5A5D92DA44F6B3EA2AB0E6631B0F@Notebook> References: <547281.43542.qm@web54506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8DFB5A5D92DA44F6B3EA2AB0E6631B0F@Notebook> Message-ID: I believe that the original factory vents actually came from a minivan. Might be worth trying the mini lists to see if such things exist there. The prices being chrged for the hardtop vents seem pretty ridiculous for what they are; Derek On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Peter & Veronica wrote: > G'day Frank > > I'm just putting one of these in the hardtop for my 100. Mine came from a > Series 3 Landrover that I parted out. It had one in each door - they are > also used in the safari type roof (in which there are 4!) These are > virtually the same as the "factory" ones, and looking at the prices asked > for them (AH Spares Stg179.50, and there's one on Aussie Ebay for A$550!) a > better bet if you can find one! > > Cheers > > Peter Linn > Brisbane Oz > BN1 Ward Spl coupe > BN1 Holden V6 > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "frank yow" > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:37 AM > To: > Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vent > > I have been considering better air flow for my BT7, want to achieve this >> with >> the hardtop on, better sun protection and , I hope, cooler. Both Cape >> international and AHSpares have the same rally vent, Bob Yule can supply >> from >> Autofarm, has anyone put one of these vents on a hardtop, how does it look >> and >> how well does it work. Seems like a nice addition if it doesnt spoil the >> look of >> the car. Frank Yow, 61 BT7, owned since 62. >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/greylinn at ozemail.com.au >> > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Wed Jul 14 03:23:21 2010 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:23:21 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vent In-Reply-To: References: <547281.43542.qm@web54506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8DFB5A5D92DA44F6B3EA2AB0E6631B0F@Notebook> Message-ID: They were also fitted to the A30/35 van. Regards >I believe that the original factory vents actually came from a minivan. >Might be worth trying the mini lists to see if such things exist there. The >prices being chrged for the hardtop vents seem pretty ridiculous for what >they are; > >Derek > -- John Harper From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Wed Jul 14 05:52:11 2010 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:52:11 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] No list emails In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20100706200701.020450c8@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20100706200701.020450c8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: john, i solved all of my list mail problems by setting up a gmail account which i use only for the list. cheers, jerry On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:10 PM, john spaur wrote: > I stopped receiving lists emails about a week ago and have not been able to > fix the problem. I checked the list website and noticed that my bounce score > was 2.0 out of 5.0. I check my computer and everything is normal and I > receive and send other emails. > > I unsubsribed and that was successful. I tried to resubscribe and it has > not worked. I also sent MJB an email but he may not have had a chance to > read it. > > What are people doing to fix list email problems? > > TIA > John > > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From e-wilkins at cox.net Wed Jul 14 08:25:52 2010 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:25:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vent In-Reply-To: References: <547281.43542.qm@web54506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8DFB5A5D92DA44F6B3EA2AB0E6631B0F@Notebook> Message-ID: <2FE8F7AA-FA17-487C-8CC7-C7095EBDD3AE@cox.net> For a while there was someone on eBay selling them for about 60.00 USD a couple of years ago. I got mine then. Wilko San Diego On Jul 14, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Derek Job wrote: > I believe that the original factory vents actually came from a > minivan. > Might be worth trying the mini lists to see if such things exist > there. The > prices being chrged for the hardtop vents seem pretty ridiculous for > what > they are; > > Derek > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Peter & Veronica > wrote: > >> G'day Frank >> >> I'm just putting one of these in the hardtop for my 100. Mine came >> from a >> Series 3 Landrover that I parted out. It had one in each door - >> they are >> also used in the safari type roof (in which there are 4!) These are >> virtually the same as the "factory" ones, and looking at the prices >> asked >> for them (AH Spares Stg179.50, and there's one on Aussie Ebay for A >> $550!) a >> better bet if you can find one! >> >> Cheers >> >> Peter Linn >> Brisbane Oz >> BN1 Ward Spl coupe >> BN1 Holden V6 >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "frank yow" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:37 AM >> To: >> Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop vent >> >> I have been considering better air flow for my BT7, want to >> achieve this >>> with >>> the hardtop on, better sun protection and , I hope, cooler. Both >>> Cape >>> international and AHSpares have the same rally vent, Bob Yule can >>> supply >>> from >>> Autofarm, has anyone put one of these vents on a hardtop, how does >>> it look >>> and >>> how well does it work. Seems like a nice addition if it doesnt >>> spoil the >>> look of >>> the car. Frank Yow, 61 BT7, owned since 62. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ >>> greylinn at ozemail.com.au >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net From michael at mcassociatesinc.com Wed Jul 14 09:49:36 2010 From: michael at mcassociatesinc.com (Michael Couch) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:49:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sprite Bearing Hub Message-ID: <1DEFCDF555D941338223B411A1BC36C6@MCOUCHOFFICE> Does anyone know of a source for sprite rear bearing hubs for wire wheels? Winners Circle has a great double bearing replacement but it only fits non-wires. My hubs are worn and I'm tired of replacing rear bearings! Mike Couch Pittsburgh BN2 100M AN2 From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 14 12:05:08 2010 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] No list emails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <616807.11947.qm@web81804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think I fixed it. Thanks Jerry! --- On Wed, 7/14/10, jerry wall wrote: Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 4:52 AM john, i solved all of my list mail problems by setting up a gmail account which i use only for the list. cheers, jerry From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Wed Jul 14 15:29:53 2010 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:29:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor Message-ID: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> I need some help. I disassembled my heater blower, BJ8, and found that the squirrel cage has some damaged blades, (chewed by a resident rodent in a previous life). Replacements do not seem to be available.No problem, I have a couple of excellent spares for my MGB. Exact dimensional match. Only one problem, they are designed for opposite rotation. So here is the question. Is it possible to change the rotation of the blower motor. I know that changing the polarity of the leads makes no difference. Any help is appreciated. Herb Miller AN5 BT7 BJ8 From medlabinc at msn.com Wed Jul 14 19:22:51 2010 From: medlabinc at msn.com (Dick Matson) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:22:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Heater motor Message-ID: I've heard rodents can happen. Someone else found a (huge) mouse nest in the duct and squirrel cage of his heater motor. Anyway so I installed a fitting from BCS/Nocks and a screen over the front of the heater air inlet duct on my car. Now the heater inlet matches the cold air inlet on the other side. The change is reversible. I guess that doesn't help with your question though. Dick Matson / bj8 ----- Original Message ----- From: Herbert Miller To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:29 PM Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor I need some help. I disassembled my heater blower, BJ8, and found that the squirrel cage has some damaged blades, (chewed by a resident rodent in a previous life). Replacements do not seem to be available.No problem, I have a couple of excellent spares for my MGB. Exact dimensional match. Only one problem, they are designed for opposite rotation. So here is the question. Is it possible to change the rotation of the blower motor. I know that changing the polarity of the leads makes no difference. Any help is appreciated. Herb Miller AN5 BT7 BJ8 _______________________________________________ From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jul 14 22:20:42 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:20:42 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor In-Reply-To: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> References: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> Message-ID: Herbert - I believe you will have to have the armature rewound the opposite direction. That will cost about 100 bucks ++ at your local auto electrical repair shop. You can't just reverse the leads.... Alan On 7/14/10, Herbert Miller wrote: > I need some help. > > I disassembled my heater blower, BJ8, and found that the squirrel cage has > some damaged blades, (chewed by a resident rodent in a previous life). > Replacements do not seem to be available.No problem, I have a couple of > excellent spares for my MGB. Exact dimensional match. Only one problem, > they are designed for opposite rotation. So here is the question. Is it > possible to change the rotation of the blower motor. I know that changing > the polarity of the leads makes no difference. > > Any help is appreciated. > > > > Herb Miller > > AN5 > > BT7 > > BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu Jul 15 00:19:26 2010 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:19:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor In-Reply-To: References: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> Message-ID: Are you sure about changing the polarity not changing the direction of rotation? As I recall it does. It won't help if the case is grounded, but if the case is not grounded, you should be good to go. Rick On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Herbert - > > I believe you will have to have the armature rewound the opposite > direction. That will cost about 100 bucks ++ at your local auto > electrical repair shop. You can't just reverse the leads.... > > Alan > > On 7/14/10, Herbert Miller wrote: > > I need some help. > I know that changing > > the polarity of the leads makes no difference. > > > > Any help is appreciated. > > > > > > > > Herb Miller From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 15 00:47:15 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:47:15 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor In-Reply-To: References: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> Message-ID: If you switch polarity, it does not affect the heater motor spin direction. On 7/15/10, Richard Ewald wrote: > Are you sure about changing the polarity not changing the direction of > rotation? As I recall it does. > It won't help if the case is grounded, but if the case is not grounded, you > should be good to go. > Rick > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > >> Herbert - >> >> I believe you will have to have the armature rewound the opposite >> direction. That will cost about 100 bucks ++ at your local auto >> electrical repair shop. You can't just reverse the leads.... >> >> Alan >> >> On 7/14/10, Herbert Miller wrote: >> > I need some help. >> I know that changing >> > the polarity of the leads makes no difference. >> > >> > Any help is appreciated. >> > >> > >> > >> > Herb Miller >> > -- Sent from my mobile device From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Thu Jul 15 00:43:12 2010 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:43:12 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor In-Reply-To: References: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> Message-ID: <9sTQe8AA4qPMFwX3@jharper.demon.co.uk> Herbert In order to change the rotation of a non permanent magnet DC motor you have to reverse the connections to either the field winding or the armature. You might find that the leads to the field winding are accessible enough to re-route them. This should be OK but the motor might not be quite so efficient because sometimes the brush angle is set to be optimum in one direction. I don't believe that rewinding the armature is a realistic suggestion. However the field windings could be rewound in the opposite direction but it is simpler just to reverse the leads. Regards > >I believe you will have to have the armature rewound the opposite >direction. That will cost about 100 bucks ++ at your local auto >electrical repair shop. You can't just reverse the leads.... > >Alan > >On 7/14/10, Herbert Miller wrote: >> I need some help. >> >> I disassembled my heater blower, BJ8, and found that the squirrel cage has >> some damaged blades, (chewed by a resident rodent in a previous life). >> Replacements do not seem to be available.No problem, I have a couple of >> excellent spares for my MGB. Exact dimensional match. Only one problem, >> they are designed for opposite rotation. So here is the question. Is it >> possible to change the rotation of the blower motor. I know that changing >> the polarity of the leads makes no difference. >> -- John Harper From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jul 15 01:41:45 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:41:45 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor In-Reply-To: References: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> Message-ID: <4C3EBBB9.5090107@chello.nl> One should be able to change over the wires to change polarity and direction. However before you try spinning the motor remove the brushes and chamfer the edges running on the commutator to prevent serious damage to the commutator. Kees Oudesluijs NL Richard Ewald wrote: > Are you sure about changing the polarity not changing the direction of > rotation? As I recall it does. > It won't help if the case is grounded, but if the case is not grounded, you > should be good to go. > Rick > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > > >> Herbert - >> >> I believe you will have to have the armature rewound the opposite >> direction. That will cost about 100 bucks ++ at your local auto >> electrical repair shop. You can't just reverse the leads.... >> >> Alan >> >> On 7/14/10, Herbert Miller wrote: >> >>> I need some help. >>> >> I know that changing >> >>> the polarity of the leads makes no difference. >>> >>> Any help is appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> Herb Miller >>> > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3006 - datum van uitgifte: 07/15/10 04:26:00 From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Thu Jul 15 02:30:44 2010 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:30:44 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor In-Reply-To: References: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> Message-ID: I believe that what is being missed here is that for many years we have become used to DC motors that have permanent magnet fields. The improvements in magnetic material has made this possible. However in the days of 'our' cars the magnets were not good enough and a wound field winding was used. Changing either the field magnetism OR the armature connections would reverse the motor. With a permanent magnet motor changing the connections does reverse the motor. On a motor with a wound field coil changing connections over externally has no effect because BOTH the field and armature get changed and the motor still spins the same way. You have to get inside to change the rotation of a wound field motor. Regards >If you switch polarity, it does not affect the heater motor spin direction. > >On 7/15/10, Richard Ewald wrote: >> Are you sure about changing the polarity not changing the direction of >> rotation? As I recall it does. >> It won't help if the case is grounded, but if the case is not grounded, you >> should be good to go. >> Rick >> >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: >> -- John Harper From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu Jul 15 06:52:21 2010 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 05:52:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor In-Reply-To: References: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> Message-ID: ::: Scratches head::: Well back in the day when I raced slot cars (which used a DC permanent magnet motor) we would wire in a 1.5V battery to the off position of the controller. We would wire it to the reverse polarity of the track. So when you took your thumb all the way off the motor was given 1.5V backwards. This would cause the car to slow down RIGHT NOW and if you had a fresh battery creep backwards. So in my experience reversing the polarity on a DC motor does reverse the direction. Why do you say it does not? Rick On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > If you switch polarity, it does not affect the heater motor spin direction. > > On 7/15/10, Richard Ewald wrote: > > Are you sure about changing the polarity not changing the direction of > > rotation? As I recall it does. > > It won't help if the case is grounded, but if the case is not grounded, > you > > should be good to go. > > Rick > > > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Alan Seigrist > wrote: > > > >> Herbert - > >> > >> I believe you will have to have the armature rewound the opposite > >> direction. That will cost about 100 bucks ++ at your local auto > >> electrical repair shop. You can't just reverse the leads.... > >> > >> Alan > >> > >> On 7/14/10, Herbert Miller wrote: > >> > I need some help. > >> I know that changing > >> > the polarity of the leads makes no difference. > >> > > >> > Any help is appreciated. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Herb Miller > >> > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Thu Jul 15 07:05:32 2010 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:05:32 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor In-Reply-To: References: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> Message-ID: <000301cb241e$69ad6060$3d082120$@net> Rick The Austin Healey blower motor is not a permanent magnet motor. The magnetic field is supplied by field coils. Herb Miller From: Richard Ewald [mailto:richard.ewald at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:52 AM To: Alan Seigrist Cc: Herbert Miller; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater motor ::: Scratches head::: Well back in the day when I raced slot cars (which used a DC permanent magnet motor) we would wire in a 1.5V battery to the off position of the controller. We would wire it to the reverse polarity of the track. So when you took your thumb all the way off the motor was given 1.5V backwards. This would cause the car to slow down RIGHT NOW and if you had a fresh battery creep backwards. So in my experience reversing the polarity on a DC motor does reverse the direction. Why do you say it does not? Rick On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: If you switch polarity, it does not affect the heater motor spin direction. On 7/15/10, Richard Ewald wrote: > Are you sure about changing the polarity not changing the direction of > rotation? As I recall it does. > It won't help if the case is grounded, but if the case is not grounded, you > should be good to go. > Rick > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > >> Herbert - >> >> I believe you will have to have the armature rewound the opposite >> direction. That will cost about 100 bucks ++ at your local auto >> electrical repair shop. You can't just reverse the leads.... >> >> Alan >> >> On 7/14/10, Herbert Miller wrote: >> > I need some help. >> I know that changing >> > the polarity of the leads makes no difference. >> > >> > Any help is appreciated. >> > >> > >> > >> > Herb Miller >> > -- Sent from my mobile device From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu Jul 15 07:34:26 2010 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:34:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor In-Reply-To: <000301cb241e$69ad6060$3d082120$@net> References: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> <000301cb241e$69ad6060$3d082120$@net> Message-ID: <97CF09F8-A119-405C-AE7F-4597DA12DDA5@gmail.com> Well that would explain it now wouldn't? :-) Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2010, at 6:05, "Herbert Miller" wrote: > Rick > > The Austin Healey blower motor is not a permanent magnet motor. The magnetic field is supplied by field coils. > > Herb Miller > > > > From: Richard Ewald [mailto:richard.ewald at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:52 AM > To: Alan Seigrist > Cc: Herbert Miller; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater motor > > > > ::: Scratches head::: > Well back in the day when I raced slot cars (which used a DC permanent magnet motor) we would wire in a 1.5V battery to the off position of the controller. We would wire it to the reverse polarity of the track. So when you took your thumb all the way off the motor was given 1.5V backwards. This would cause the car to slow down RIGHT NOW and if you had a fresh battery creep backwards. > So in my experience reversing the polarity on a DC motor does reverse the direction. Why do you say it does not? > Rick > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > > If you switch polarity, it does not affect the heater motor spin direction. > > > On 7/15/10, Richard Ewald wrote: > > Are you sure about changing the polarity not changing the direction of > > rotation? As I recall it does. > > It won't help if the case is grounded, but if the case is not grounded, you > > should be good to go. > > Rick > > > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > > > >> Herbert - > >> > >> I believe you will have to have the armature rewound the opposite > >> direction. That will cost about 100 bucks ++ at your local auto > >> electrical repair shop. You can't just reverse the leads.... > >> > >> Alan > >> > >> On 7/14/10, Herbert Miller wrote: > >> > I need some help. > >> I know that changing > >> > the polarity of the leads makes no difference. > >> > > >> > Any help is appreciated. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Herb Miller > >> > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 15 10:32:53 2010 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:32:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BT7- Sold. Message-ID: Sold the BT7 yesterday to a nice gentleman in Ocean City MD. He is a restaurant owner who doesn't own an Austin Healey and going to restore the car. He is very happy with it and I'm glad to see another AH owner out there. I gave him the contact info for the Healey List, along with AHSTC/ AHCA/ AHCA info. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From bighealey3k at aim.com Thu Jul 15 11:37:18 2010 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (bighealey3k at aim.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:37:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor In-Reply-To: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> References: <034901cb239b$b2ccf270$1866d750$@net> Message-ID: <8CCF25B81994EEC-C90-E934@webmail-d078.sysops.aol.com> Herb, Many years ago (early 70's) I took a BJ8 heater blower from a junk yard and used it to provide for a forced air blower in the fresh air hose on the driver's side (L/H) that has a vent outlet under the dash. The ram air wasn't enough at low speeds in the South Florida summers. I noticed that the housing provided for mounting the motor on ether side of the blower housing so I could mount it on the left side of the car in a mirror fashion to the one on the right side used on the heater blower hose. I had to open up the motor housing and reverse some wires inside to get the motor to rotate in the opposite direction so the squirrel cage would rotate in the correct direction to eject the air into the blower outlet. I don't remember which wires but it was pretty straight forward looking at the windings and connections inside. So yes it can be done. I didn't have to alter anything else like brushes or commutator and it still runs today. I did have to shim up the inlet and outlet to accomodate for the larger hose used on the fresh air vent on that side of the car in case someone would like to do the same thing. Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: Herbert Miller To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2010 5:29 pm Subject: [Healeys] Heater motor I need some help. I disassembled my heater blower, BJ8, and found that the squirrel cage has ome damaged blades, (chewed by a resident rodent in a previous life). eplacements do not seem to be available.No problem, I have a couple of xcellent spares for my MGB. Exact dimensional match. Only one problem, hey are designed for opposite rotation. So here is the question. Is it ossible to change the rotation of the blower motor. I know that changing he polarity of the leads makes no difference. Any help is appreciated. Herb Miller AN5 BT7 BJ8 ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey3k at aim.com From s.hutchings at rogers.com Thu Jul 15 15:49:44 2010 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:49:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Wiring harness routes Message-ID: I wonder if anyone has some photos of their wiring harness installations. I'm having trouble with a couple of details that I can't find in my notes or reference photos. For example; which hole in the bulkhead does the wiper motor set of wires go through? Thanks, Stephen, BJ8 From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 15 17:58:05 2010 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:58:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Concealed wiring harness Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20100715165618.020098c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Because my car is intended to be a driver I was wondering where people that route the wiring harness inside the route the rear wiring harness. John 62' BT7 From RMastrona at aol.com Thu Jul 15 18:38:12 2010 From: RMastrona at aol.com (Richard Mastronardi) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:38:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for Jack Handle for a King Dick Jack Message-ID: <002201cb247f$2c26fbf0$8474f3d0$@com> I am doing a restoration on a 1961 BT7. I have the Jack, a King Dick B1881 jack, but no handle and tommy bar. Does anyone know who might have one I could buy or where I could find one? Rich From keithbailey5 at bigpond.com Thu Jul 15 20:10:13 2010 From: keithbailey5 at bigpond.com (Keith Bailey) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:10:13 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Message-ID: <23B0B748FC0344B3BB0D7C757DAB798D@KeithDell> Hi All I would like to thank the members of the forum who past on information to resolve my problem. It appears that the arm on the brake peddle lever was re located to prevent it hitting the foot well. The lever was relocated back to the correct position and a dimple formed in the foot well to give clearance. The brakes now work great Regards Keith BN1 BT7 From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Fri Jul 16 10:30:44 2010 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Chile: Antique Car Club In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <643880.12856.qm@web54107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Does anyone have the contact numbers of Club Chileno de Automoviles Antiguos Thanks, Jose Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: Stephen Hutchings To: Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 4:49:44 PM Subject: [Healeys] Wiring harness routes I wonder if anyone has some photos of their wiring harness installations. I'm having trouble with a couple of details that I can't find in my notes or reference photos. For example; which hole in the bulkhead does the wiper motor set of wires go through? Thanks, Stephen, BJ8 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Fri Jul 16 10:49:25 2010 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <530323.85652.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I need to have the faces of my speedo and tach repainted only. The interior is perfect due to the fact that the car had only 20K miles. please recomendations are welcomed on to whoom to send the instruments... Thanks Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: Stephen Hutchings To: Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 4:49:44 PM Subject: [Healeys] Wiring harness routes I wonder if anyone has some photos of their wiring harness installations. I'm having trouble with a couple of details that I can't find in my notes or reference photos. For example; which hole in the bulkhead does the wiper motor set of wires go through? Thanks, Stephen, BJ8 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From ahbn6 at verizon.net Fri Jul 16 12:11:07 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:11:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Chile: Antique Car Club In-Reply-To: <643880.12856.qm@web54107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <643880.12856.qm@web54107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006801cb2512$43798eb0$ca6cac10$@verizon.net> Look at: http://caach-osorno.spaces.live.com/blog/ John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Josi Vicente Vargas Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:31 PM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Chile: Antique Car Club Does anyone have the contact numbers of Club Chileno de Automoviles Antiguos Thanks, Jose Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: Stephen Hutchings To: Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 4:49:44 PM Subject: [Healeys] Wiring harness routes I wonder if anyone has some photos of their wiring harness installations. I'm having trouble with a couple of details that I can't find in my notes or reference photos. For example; which hole in the bulkhead does the wiper motor set of wires go through? Thanks, Stephen, BJ8 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From rdryman1 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 16 13:10:35 2010 From: rdryman1 at yahoo.com (Richard Dryman) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Original BJ8 brake servo on eBay Message-ID: <478727.13206.qm@web110305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Check this out if you need one: >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180533802150& ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:MOTORS:1123 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_0202 (Large).JPG] From bighealey at astound.net Fri Jul 16 13:50:27 2010 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:50:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer Angle drive Message-ID: I just installed a new speedometer angle drive on 100-six and am wondering what the little screw in the side of the angle drive is for? Thanks. Vrooom vroom, John From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Fri Jul 16 15:33:47 2010 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:33:47 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding In-Reply-To: <530323.85652.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <530323.85652.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3234795A87A24107A5E21AD921CC8627@Notebook> Hi Jose If you can take the instruments apart yourself, or get it done locally, Lionel Otto Instruments here in Brisbane can supply new faces - they're not expensive (about A$40.00) http://www.ottoinstruments.com.au/ Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Australia BN1 Ward Spl coupe BN1 Holden V6 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Josi Vicente Vargas" Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 2:49 AM To: Subject: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding > I need to have the faces of my speedo and tach repainted only. The > interior is > perfect due to the fact that the car had only 20K miles. please > recomendations > are welcomed on to whoom to send the instruments... > > Thanks > Josi Vicente > Vargas > Musmi > > > Tel. (571) 321 3740 > Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 > Skype: jovivago > www.musme.net > > > Bogota, Colombia > > > > > ________________________________ > From: > Stephen Hutchings > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: > Thu, July 15, 2010 4:49:44 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Wiring harness routes > > I > wonder if anyone has some photos of their wiring harness installations. > I'm > having trouble with a couple of details that I can't find in my notes or > reference photos. > For example; which hole in the bulkhead does the wiper motor > set of wires go > through? > Thanks, > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/greylinn at ozemail.com.au From dan at warner-associates.com Fri Jul 16 16:12:57 2010 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:12:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer Angle drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <644A8E2D0BA345F89CB3A2AF74CD246A@DANSTROM> My guess is that is there so one can lube the inside gears through the hole when removed. Don't forget the $.95 brass washer or you will be needing another angle drive soon. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Soderling Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:50 PM To: Healey list Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer Angle drive I just installed a new speedometer angle drive on 100-six and am wondering what the little screw in the side of the angle drive is for? Thanks. Vrooom vroom, John _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dan at warner-associates.com From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jul 16 16:38:57 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer Angle drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1844875647.138360.1279319937478.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Oiling? bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Soderling" To: "Healey list" Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:50:27 PM Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer Angle drive I just installed a new speedometer angle drive on 100-six and am wondering what the little screw in the side of the angle drive is for? Thanks. Vrooom vroom, John _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 16 16:53:30 2010 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:53:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 sold In-Reply-To: <97CBEDE6-F034-4D3B-905D-BF119C7616F5@comcast.net> References: <97CBEDE6-F034-4D3B-905D-BF119C7616F5@comcast.net> Message-ID: Yes, I gave him AHC-USA as well. Just a typo on my part. I also told him that 99.9 percent of all Austin Healey people are honest, ethical, fun and all around great people. Just watch out for that .1 percent- you usually only run into them when selling a car. > From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net > Subject: BT7 sold > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:07:39 -0600 > To: stmiller96 at hotmail.com > > Give him the info on AHC-USA too... > > > Best wishes, > > Richard > > > Richard Gordon > Rocky Mountain Austin-Healey Club > 1830 South Newport Street > Denver, Colorado 80224 > Home 303-756-7427 > Cell 303-913-1171 > HealeyHundred at comcast.net > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From jstmorris at yahoo.com Fri Jul 16 16:54:24 2010 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer Angle drive Message-ID: <690458.80631.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello John; Here are a couple of emails from my archives that provide your answer. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives ***************************************************************************** **************************** Little screw on body of speedo drive Re: [Healeys] Speedo Angle Drive Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:03 PM From: "Rich C" To: "R. Price Lindsay" , healeys at autox.team.net Hello Price, The little screw on the body of the speedo drive is indeed filling an oiling hole. An old British mechanic back in the early '70's told me that if a couple of drops of thin oil went into that screw hole once a year, the unit would last virtually forever. --Rich Chrysler Re: [Healeys] Speedo Angle Drive Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:28 AM From: "R. Price Lindsay" To: healeys at autox.team.net I am putting a new angle drive in my BJ8. There is a bolt in the top which I presume is for oil. First is this a lub point and second do I need to put a drop of oil into a new unit? Thanks, --Price Lindsay 67 BJ8 ***************************************************************************** ************************** John Soderling wrote:<< I just installed a new speedometer angle drive on 100-six and am wondering what the little screw in the side of the angle drive is for? >> From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 16 18:08:03 2010 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:08:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 72 MGB GT In-Reply-To: <8A929665-4DF5-487C-B104-8557A41AA688@sbcglobal.net> References: <8A929665-4DF5-487C-B104-8557A41AA688@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <0474A322-3826-4C9A-A405-D0624DF078F4@sbcglobal.net> Sold, first caller took it. Thanks to all those that called and or forwarded the info to others that were interested. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:28 AM, David Nock wrote: > We are selling one of my fathers cars. It is a 1972 MGB GT. He was > the second owner, the car was originally sold at BMC in Oakland and > has 39,000 original miles. The car has its original paint, the > interior has been replaced, new wheels and tires. He did a mechanical > restoration to the car when he purchased it. > > If anyone knows someone that is looking for very original MGB GT that > has been meticulisly taken care of have them get ahold of me. I will > be posting it in the MG magazines in the next month. > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . > . > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jul 16 19:37:38 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:37:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Wiring harness routes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8180BA0CE15C4C60B5E91B87E5567B94@LIFEBOOK> Stephen, I just got back from Conclave so can send you all the pictures you'll ever need. Here's a small sample. get back to me with whatever you need. Rich -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Hutchings" Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:49 PM To: Subject: [Healeys] Wiring harness routes > I wonder if anyone has some photos of their wiring harness installations. > I'm having trouble with a couple of details that I can't find in my notes > or reference photos. > For example; which hole in the bulkhead does the wiper motor set of wires > go through? > Thanks, > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of jul409 021.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of jul409 019.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of jul409 020.jpg] From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 16 20:03:03 2010 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Conclave 2010 In-Reply-To: 29098460 References: 29098460 Message-ID: <229311.84714.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ---- Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 8:56:49 PM Subject: Fwd: Conclave 2010 Just wanted your members to know I posted a slideshow of the cars parked along Main Street in downtown Galena: http://www.judylange.com/LRSS/AH/index.html ~ Judy Lange Judy Lange Photography Tel: 815-281-1154 ~ ~ President, The Galena Artists' Guild Website: http://galenaartists.com/ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Fri Jul 16 20:37:07 2010 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding In-Reply-To: <3234795A87A24107A5E21AD921CC8627@Notebook> References: <530323.85652.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <3234795A87A24107A5E21AD921CC8627@Notebook> Message-ID: <773935.38348.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I called Otto Instruments at least 10 times and never got a definitive answer. I e mailed at least 10 times and never got an email answered. I talked with the owner (Tom Martin) at least 5 times and never gave an answer on the faces. I placed the order via fax and never got an answer. I do not know how the survive as a business but I would definetly NOT recommend them....!!! The 40 AUS $$ is quite appealing but they seem to not have the faces or are not interested in doing business.... That is my experience with them. I lost a month trying to get an answer from them and nothing.... Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: Peter & Veronica To: Josi Vicente Vargas ; Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 4:33:47 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding Hi Jose If you can take the instruments apart yourself, or get it done locally, Lionel Otto Instruments here in Brisbane can supply new faces - they're not expensive (about A$40.00) http://www.ottoinstruments.com.au/ Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Australia BN1 Ward Spl coupe BN1 Holden V6 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Josi Vicente Vargas" Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 2:49 AM To: Subject: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding > I need to have the faces of my speedo and tach repainted only. The interior is > perfect due to the fact that the car had only 20K miles. please recomendations > are welcomed on to whoom to send the instruments... > > Thanks > Josi Vicente > Vargas > Musmi > > > Tel. (571) 321 3740 > Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 > Skype: jovivago > www.musme.net > > > Bogota, Colombia > > > > > ________________________________ > From: > Stephen Hutchings > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: > Thu, July 15, 2010 4:49:44 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Wiring harness routes > > I > wonder if anyone has some photos of their wiring harness installations. > I'm > having trouble with a couple of details that I can't find in my notes or > reference photos. > For example; which hole in the bulkhead does the wiper motor > set of wires go > through? > Thanks, > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/greylinn at ozemail.com.au From bighealey at astound.net Fri Jul 16 22:36:12 2010 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:36:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer Angle drive In-Reply-To: <690458.80631.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <690458.80631.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <607EFF68634442A9A76D2804E7284014@JohnSoderling> Thanks to all who responded to my inquiry. I'll put a few drops of light oil in to keep Erika the Red properly lubed. Vrooom vrooom, John -------------------------------------------------- From: "J. Scott Morris" Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:54 PM To: "Healey list" ; "John Soderling" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speedometer Angle drive > Hello John; Here are a couple of emails from my archives that provide > your > answer. > --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada > J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives > > ***************************************************************************** > **************************** > Little screw on body of speedo drive > > Re: [Healeys] Speedo Angle Drive > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:03 PM > From: "Rich C" > To: "R. Price Lindsay" , > healeys at autox.team.net > Hello Price, The little screw on the body of the speedo drive is indeed > filling an oiling hole. An old British mechanic back in the early '70's > told > me that if a couple of drops of thin oil went into that screw hole once a > year, the unit would last virtually forever. > --Rich Chrysler > > Re: [Healeys] Speedo Angle Drive > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:28 AM > From: "R. Price Lindsay" > To: healeys at autox.team.net > I am putting a new angle drive in my BJ8. There is a bolt in the top which > I > presume is for oil. First is this a lub point and second do I need to put > a > drop of oil into a new unit? > Thanks, --Price Lindsay 67 BJ8 > ***************************************************************************** > ************************** > John Soderling wrote:<< I just installed a new > speedometer angle drive on 100-six and am wondering what the little screw > in > the side of the angle drive is for? >> > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at astound.net From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 16 23:45:12 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:45:12 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding In-Reply-To: <530323.85652.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <530323.85652.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hola Jose - You didn't mention which type of AH you have, that can make a difference how we recommend you proceed. Alan On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Josi Vicente Vargas wrote: > I need to have the faces of my speedo and tach repainted only. The interior > is > perfect due to the fact that the car had only 20K miles. please > recomendations > are welcomed on to whoom to send the instruments... > > Thanks > Josi Vicente > Vargas > Musmi > > > Tel. (571) 321 3740 > Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 > Skype: jovivago > www.musme.net > > > Bogota, Colombia From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Jul 17 02:05:53 2010 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:05:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Shroud Bracket Needed Message-ID: Looking for the "L" shaped bracket that connects the front shroud to the bracket welded to the front left frame piece. I do not find it in the catalogs. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Sat Jul 17 06:04:46 2010 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 05:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding In-Reply-To: References: <530323.85652.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <697053.6801.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Its a 100-4 Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: Alan Seigrist To: Josi Vicente Vargas Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, July 17, 2010 12:45:12 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding Hola Jose - You didn't mention which type of AH you have, that can make a difference how we recommend you proceed. Alan On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Josi Vicente Vargas wrote: I need to have the faces of my speedo and tach repainted only. The interior is >perfect due to the fact that the car had only 20K miles. please recomendations >are welcomed on to whoom to send the instruments... > >Thanks > Josi Vicente >Vargas >Musmi > > >Tel. (571) 321 3740 >Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 >Skype: jovivago >www.musme.net > > >Bogota, Colombia From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 17 06:19:35 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:19:35 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding In-Reply-To: <697053.6801.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <530323.85652.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <697053.6801.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jose - For the 100-4 you will want to send the instruments to Margaret Lucas of Mo Ma in New Mexico. The instrument faces of the 100-4 are not available new from anyone, so the faces must be meticulously restored and coloring matched. Margaret Lucas is pretty good in this regard. I will send the contact info separately. Alan On 7/17/10, Josi Vicente Vargas wrote: > Its a 100-4 > Josi Vicente Vargas > Musmi > > > Tel. (571) 321 3740 > Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 > Skype: jovivago > > > www.musme.net > > > Bogota, Colombia > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Alan Seigrist > To: Josi Vicente Vargas > Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, July 17, 2010 12:45:12 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding > > Hola Jose - > > You didn't mention which type of AH you have, that can make a difference how > we > recommend you proceed. > > Alan > > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Josi Vicente Vargas > wrote: > > I need to have the faces of my speedo and tach repainted only. The interior > is >>perfect due to the fact that the car had only 20K miles. please >> recomendations >>are welcomed on to whoom to send the instruments... >> >>Thanks >> Josi Vicente >>Vargas >>Musmi >> >> >>Tel. (571) 321 3740 >>Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 >>Skype: jovivago >>www.musme.net >> >> >>Bogota, Colombia >> >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Jul 17 09:54:21 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:54:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Shroud Bracket Needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kilmartin has them. Rich -------------------------------------------------- From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:05 AM To: "Austin Healey" Subject: [Healeys] Shroud Bracket Needed > Looking for the "L" shaped bracket that connects the front shroud to the > bracket welded to the front left frame piece. I do not find it in the > catalogs. > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jul 17 14:10:40 2010 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Engine ID rivets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <929388.40012.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Take a hacksaw or dremel and cut a slot for a flat-bladed screwdriver. They simply screw out like a wood screw. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Stephen Hutchings wrote: From: Stephen Hutchings Subject: [Healeys] Engine ID rivets To: Healeys at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 7:00 PM I know that there is a trick to removing the engine ID number tag's rivets, and I wonder if anyone could enlighten me? I've searched through the archives, but I only found a refernce to a how-to article that I don't have acccess to. Stephen, BJ8 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From npaul72464 at aol.com Sat Jul 17 14:40:01 2010 From: npaul72464 at aol.com (npaul72464 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:40:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] frame lifting points Message-ID: <8CCF4075CF35B55-36BC-C57A@Webmail-d123.sysops.aol.com> Hi All, I recently installed a two post lift in my home garage. It has the swing arms to go under the car and lift at points on the frame. I'm wondering which points would be best for the sake of the frame. Thanks in advance, Ned Paulsen 1960 BN7 Webster, ny = From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Sat Jul 17 15:27:39 2010 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:27:39 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding In-Reply-To: References: <530323.85652.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com><697053.6801.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Beg to differ Alan - Lionel Otto's do - I have both Speedo and tacho faces from them in my "new" 100. Indistinguishable from original Cheers Peter -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Seigrist" Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:19 PM To: "Josi Vicente Vargas" ; Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding > Jose - > > For the 100-4 you will want to send the instruments to Margaret Lucas > of Mo Ma in New Mexico. The instrument faces of the 100-4 are not > available new from anyone, so the faces must be meticulously restored > and coloring matched. Margaret Lucas is pretty good in this regard. > > I will send the contact info separately. > > Alan > > On 7/17/10, Josi Vicente Vargas wrote: >> Its a 100-4 >> Josi Vicente Vargas >> Musmi >> >> >> Tel. (571) 321 3740 >> Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 >> Skype: jovivago >> >> >> www.musme.net >> >> >> Bogota, Colombia >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Alan Seigrist >> To: Josi Vicente Vargas >> Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net >> Sent: Sat, July 17, 2010 12:45:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding >> >> Hola Jose - >> >> You didn't mention which type of AH you have, that can make a difference > how >> we >> recommend you proceed. >> >> Alan >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Josi Vicente Vargas >> wrote: >> >> I need to have the faces of my speedo and tach repainted only. The >> interior >> is >>>perfect due to the fact that the car had only 20K miles. please >>> recomendations >>>are welcomed on to whoom to send the instruments... >>> >>>Thanks >>> Josi Vicente >>>Vargas >>>Musmi >>> >>> >>>Tel. (571) 321 3740 >>>Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 >>>Skype: jovivago >>>www.musme.net >>> >>> >>>Bogota, Colombia >>> >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/greylinn at ozemail.com.au From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Jul 17 17:08:37 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:08:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] frame lifting points In-Reply-To: <8CCF4075CF35B55-36BC-C57A@Webmail-d123.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCF4075CF35B55-36BC-C57A@Webmail-d123.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <6BE56354EBBA4A128D0BD4B24F812403@LIFEBOOK> Hi Ned, I'd suggest you lift at the points where the outriggers meet the main chassis rails both front and rear. Rich -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:40 PM To: Subject: [Healeys] frame lifting points > Hi All, > > I recently installed a two post lift in my home garage. It has the swing > arms > to go under the car and lift at points on the frame. I'm wondering which > points would be best for the sake of the frame. > > Thanks in advance, > > Ned Paulsen > 1960 BN7 > Webster, ny > > > > > > > = > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From britishcars at shaw.ca Sat Jul 17 20:48:32 2010 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:48:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please Message-ID: <000901cb2623$b5c7c470$21574d50$@ca> A week or two ago I mentioned that I had replaced my throw-out bearing with a DW roller bearing. At that time, I also replaced my clutch slave and spigot Bearing.I did nothing else. After reinstalling the transmission, I could not change gears. for some reason, the input shaft would not stop spinning. Some advice received from the list was as follows: 1) The clutch disk in backwards..I pulled the transmission and checked..it was ok; 2) The clutch pedal rod or slave rod were too short...adjusted and are ok... 3) Input shaft dragging on the new spigot bearing and as such, when clutch is depressed, the input shaft keeps spinning. I pulled the transmission again today and checked everything...clutch is fine, rods are fine...spigot bearing.not sure. I honed out the spigot bearing and reinstalled the transmission... Same problem...(now I'm really frustrated, pissed off, ready to drive the car into a lake..except I can't drive it!) Symptoms: 1) If I start the car in gear with the clutch depressed, the car will not move and behaves properly (however, still can't change gears).the clutch engages when the pedal is about half out which tells me that the clutch itself is working fine. Length of rods are ok etc etc. 2) However, I still can't change gears with the car running and the clutch depressed. I can force it into gear with some grinding but.. 3) With the driveshaft off, I started the car in 4th gear and the clutch depressed. The flange turns quickly and when I try to stop it with a gloved hand it is difficult..however, when I do manage to stop it, I can hold it easily. Hypothosis Conclusion: 1) The input shaft continues to rub on the spigot bearing..just enough to turn the input shaft (even with clutch depressed) and thus not allow me to change gears. What do I do...I really don't have the energy or heart to pull the transmission again..I'm pissed off and frustrated.. I thought that perhaps leaving the car run in 4th gear and the clutch depressed might cause the spigot bearing and input shaft to wear and give the clearance necessary...I did this for 10 minutes but did not help..I suppose if I do it long enough, eventually it has to wear ???? I'm hoping somebody out there has a suggestion. All this for a $5 f.ing bearing! From Editorgary at aol.com Sun Jul 18 00:48:16 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 02:48:16 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Po-larity Message-ID: <5729c.47963c06.3973fdb0@aol.com> In a message dated 7/15/10 7:22:17 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Changing either the field magnetism OR the armature connections would > reverse the motor. > Had that happen to my race car's electric rotary fuel pump when I accidentally hooked up the battery backwards. Couldn't figure out why I wasn't getting any fuel until I disconnected the hose and noticed it was sucking instead of blowing. Gary From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 18 05:10:41 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 06:10:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: <62923203328a212cebee5dd22b1d339d@www.facebook.com> References: <62923203328a212cebee5dd22b1d339d@www.facebook.com> Message-ID: <4C42E131.7070405@justbrits.com> Anybody got Larry Varley's eMail addy ?!? Just wanna tell him that like most "smart' folks - LOL - I do NOT "do" Facebook !! TIA !! Ed PS: For those of you waiting on a reply/comment from me, the Conclave Delegates Meeting put me in the Hospital from which I escaped about 1:30PM yesterday. Take a couple days to catch up !!!! Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Jul 18 05:43:36 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:43:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: <4C42E131.7070405@justbrits.com> References: <62923203328a212cebee5dd22b1d339d@www.facebook.com> <4C42E131.7070405@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <001901cb266e$75f3ef90$61dbceb0$@verizon.net> Try: varley at cosmos.net.au John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shop at " Just Brits " Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:11 AM To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. Anybody got Larry Varley's eMail addy ?!? Just wanna tell him that like most "smart' folks - LOL - I do NOT "do" Facebook !! TIA !! Ed PS: For those of you waiting on a reply/comment from me, the Conclave Delegates Meeting put me in the Hospital from which I escaped about 1:30PM yesterday. Take a couple days to catch up !!!! Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Jul 18 06:37:45 2010 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 05:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: <4C42E131.7070405@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <17637.12889.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> How were you able to get out of the straightjacket? Enquiring minds want to know! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 7/18/10, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: Ed PS: For those of you waiting on a reply/comment from me, the Conclave Delegates Meeting put me in the Hospital from which I escaped about 1:30PM yesterday. Take a couple days to catch up !!!! _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From warthodson at aol.com Sun Jul 18 07:03:32 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:03:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please In-Reply-To: <000901cb2623$b5c7c470$21574d50$@ca> References: <000901cb2623$b5c7c470$21574d50$@ca> Message-ID: <8CCF490C208CFB0-20D0-1BF56@webmail-m074.sysops.aol.com> When mating the bellhousing to the engine did you use the two special dowel bolts that are original? Apparently, the factory felt the precise location of the transmission input shaft to the pilot bushing was critical. I don't think letting it wear in is going to make the problem go away, if indeed that is the source of the problem. I can understand your frustration at this point. Did you modify anything we should know about? Where did you get your replacement pilot bushing? Is it fully installed (I.E. all the way in the crank?) Gary Hodson _______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 18 07:14:04 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:14:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: <17637.12889.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <17637.12889.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C42FE1C.7070707@justbrits.com> << How were you able to get out of the straightjacket? Enquiring minds want to know! >> THAT is the EASIEST question I have EVER had/seen on ANY Mailing List or 'Board" for me to answer, Rick !!!!! Tnx !! Just showed them: " Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: " They said something about finding a Lear Jet to "go get the patient" !!!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Jul 18 08:49:56 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:49:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: <17637.12889.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100718104956.9NT1H.152531.root@pamxwww06-z01> It was that BIG Indian Chief and a big water basin through the window!:) ---- HealeyRick wrote: ============= How were you able to get out of the straightjacket? Enquiring minds want to know! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 7/18/10, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: Ed PS: For those of you waiting on a reply/comment from me, the Conclave Delegates Meeting put me in the Hospital from which I escaped about 1:30PM yesterday. Take a couple days to catch up !!!! _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From austin.healey at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 09:16:22 2010 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:16:22 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please In-Reply-To: <813F43BB-D195-4C7E-A48B-5B852FDF0D68@gmail.com> References: <000901cb2623$b5c7c470$21574d50$@ca> <813F43BB-D195-4C7E-A48B-5B852FDF0D68@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9344D147-68D2-4A50-9322-D26A87A7758D@gmail.com> On 18/07/2010, at 6:13 PM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > Hi Paul, > Did you check you had the right bearing? > > Did you soak the spigot bush in engine oil for 48 hours before you > installed it? > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Chris Dimmock >> Date: 12 July 2010 5:08:22 PM AEST >> To: PG >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch - stupid mistake?? >> > >> Hi Paul, there are 2 different 6 cyl thrusts. Bj8 is different to >> earlier 6 cyl. I also notice DW has 2 different part numbers >> Have you got the right one for a bj8?? >> Has it got the same distance from centre of pivot shaft to face of >> brg as the old one?? >> Chris > On 18/07/2010, at 12:48 PM, "PG" wrote: > >> A week or two ago I mentioned that I had replaced my throw-out >> bearing with >> a DW roller bearing. At that time, I also replaced my clutch >> slave and >> spigot Bearing.I did nothing else. >> >> After reinstalling the transmission, I could not change gears. for >> some >> reason, the input shaft would not stop spinning. Some advice >> received from >> the list was as follows >> 1) The clutch disk in backwards..I pulled the transmission and >> checked..it was ok; >> 2) The clutch pedal rod or slave rod were too short...adjusted >> and are ok...3) Input shaft dragging on the new spigot bearing >> and as such, when clutch is depressed, the input shaft keeps >> spinning.I pulled the transmission again today and checked >> everything...clutch is >> fine, rods are fine...spigot bearing.not sure. I honed out the >> spigot bearing and reinstalled the transmission... Same >> problem...(now I'm really frustrated, pissed off, ready to drive >> the car >> into a lake..except I can't drive it!) >> >> Symptoms: >> 1) If I start the car in gear with the clutch depressed, >> the car >> will not move and behaves properly >> >> 2) However, I still can't change gears with the car running >> and the >> clutch depressed. I can force it into gear with some grinding but.. >> >> 3) With the driveshaft off, I started the car in 4th gear and >> the >> clutch depressed. The flange turns quickly and when I try to stop >> it with >> a gloved hand it is difficult..however, when I do manage to stop >> it, I can >> hold it easily. >> Hypothosis Conclusion: >> 1) The input shaft continues to rub on the spigot >> bearing..just enough to turn the input shaft (even with clutch >> depressed) From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jul 18 09:48:20 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] SS Downpipe Message-ID: <228631984.185754.1279468100172.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> List Sages, My dad bought a Falcon SS exhaust system for our 100M a few years ago. We finally got it installed recently and were chagrined to find that, when the brake and clutch pedals are fully depressed they come scarily close to the downpipe. Anyone else have this or a similar problem and, if so, how did you resolve it? I know we can bend and/or cut/weld the pipe, but would like to avoid this. Can anyone recommend a brand/source of downpipe that has the adequate clearance? An inch forward lean to the pipe would solve this problem. BTW, we fired the M's engine up for the first time yesterday after a complete teardown/rebuild as part of our frame-off of this car. Sweet. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From britishcars at shaw.ca Sun Jul 18 09:49:28 2010 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:49:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please In-Reply-To: <8CCF490C208CFB0-20D0-1BF56@webmail-m074.sysops.aol.com> References: <000901cb2623$b5c7c470$21574d50$@ca> <8CCF490C208CFB0-20D0-1BF56@webmail-m074.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001001cb2690$ce1af390$6a50dab0$@ca> Hi Gary, Thanks for the feedback. 1) Don't have any dowels on the bellhousing.are you thinking about the rear engine plate to the block? If so, yes. Also, the clutch worked fine until the new spigot bearing and new throw out bearing; 2) Spigot bearing came from Autofarm and looked fine. 3) There were no other modifications with the exception of the new DW competition throw out bearing..however, that is working fine. 4) Yes, the spigot is recessed into the crank..the same as the old one. It is flush with the flange on the crank. I hear you about extra wear not making the problem go away..it was a bit of a "Hail Mary" on my part. Thanks..keep your comments coming. Paul From: warthodson at aol.com [mailto:warthodson at aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:04 AM To: britishcars at shaw.ca; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please When mating the bellhousing to the engine did you use the two special dowel bolts that are original? Apparently, the factory felt the precise location of the transmission input shaft to the pilot bushing was critical. I don't think letting it wear in is going to make the problem go away, if indeed that is the source of the problem. I can understand your frustration at this point. Did you modify anything we should know about? Where did you get your replacement pilot bushing? Is it fully installed (I.E. all the way in the crank?) Gary Hodson _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com From britishcars at shaw.ca Sun Jul 18 09:51:27 2010 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:51:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please In-Reply-To: <9344D147-68D2-4A50-9322-D26A87A7758D@gmail.com> References: <000901cb2623$b5c7c470$21574d50$@ca> <813F43BB-D195-4C7E-A48B-5B852FDF0D68@gmail.com> <9344D147-68D2-4A50-9322-D26A87A7758D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001501cb2691$14fa6a20$3eef3e60$@ca> Hi Chris, I did NOT soak the spigot bush in oil prior to installing. I assume I had the correct bushb&b&..looked similar to the old one though had a smaller inside diameterb&I assumed the old one was worn. Paul From: Chris Dimmock [mailto:austin.healey at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:16 AM To: Chris Dimmock Cc: PG; Healey Forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please On 18/07/2010, at 6:13 PM, Chris Dimmock wrote: Hi Paul, Did you check you had the right bearing? Did you soak the spigot bush in engine oil for 48 hours before you installed it? Begin forwarded message: From: Chris Dimmock Date: 12 July 2010 5:08:22 PM AEST To: PG Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch - stupid mistake?? Hi Paul, there are 2 different 6 cyl thrusts. Bj8 is different to earlier 6 cyl. I also notice DW has 2 different part numbers Have you got the right one for a bj8?? Has it got the same distance from centre of pivot shaft to face of brg as the old one?? Chris On 18/07/2010, at 12:48 PM, "PG" wrote: A week or two ago I mentioned that I had replaced my throw-out bearing with a DW roller bearing. At that time, I also replaced my clutch slave and spigot Bearing.I did nothing else. After reinstalling the transmission, I could not change gears. for some reason, the input shaft would not stop spinning. Some advice received from the list was as follows 1) The clutch disk in backwards..I pulled the transmission and checked..it was ok; 2) The clutch pedal rod or slave rod were too short...adjusted and are ok...3) Input shaft dragging on the new spigot bearing and as such, when clutch is depressed, the input shaft keeps spinning.I pulled the transmission again today and checked everything...clutch is fine, rods are fine...spigot bearing.not sure. I honed out the spigot bearing and reinstalled the transmission... Same problem...(now I'm really frustrated, pissed off, ready to drive the car into a lake..except I can't drive it!) Symptoms: 1) If I start the car in gear with the clutch depressed, the car will not move and behaves properly 2) However, I still can't change gears with the car running and the clutch depressed. I can force it into gear with some grinding but.. 3) With the driveshaft off, I started the car in 4th gear and the clutch depressed. The flange turns quickly and when I try to stop it with a gloved hand it is difficult..however, when I do manage to stop it, I can hold it easily. Hypothosis Conclusion: 1) The input shaft continues to rub on the spigot bearing..just enough to turn the input shaft (even with clutch depressed) From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Sun Jul 18 09:55:37 2010 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:55:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch issue Message-ID: Although to me it does sound like it maybe the pilot bushing, is there any vibration in the clutch pedal? Perhaps the pressure plate springs are damaged/ adjusted wrong and the pressure palte is catching the disk slightly as it turns? Just a thought. I feel your pain- you are at the point where my wife doesn't go near the garage :) The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From britishcars at shaw.ca Sun Jul 18 10:00:05 2010 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:00:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001e01cb2692$4a11c3b0$de354b10$@ca> Thanks for the feedback...clutch is as smooth as silk. I've had vibrating clutch's before and this one is fine. My wife was choked yesterday...nice day and I spent it in the garage...I was too scared to tell her that the problem didn't get fixed! Paul From: S and T Miller [mailto:stmiller96 at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:56 AM To: britishcars at shaw.ca; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Clutch issue Although to me it does sound like it maybe the pilot bushing, is there any vibration in the clutch pedal? Perhaps the pressure plate springs are damaged/ adjusted wrong and the pressure palte is catching the disk slightly as it turns? Just a thought. I feel your pain- you are at the point where my wife doesn't go near the garage :) The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _____ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 10:16:26 2010 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:16:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] SS Downpipe In-Reply-To: <228631984.185754.1279468100172.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <228631984.185754.1279468100172.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob, Common and well know problem. I used an old original downpipe (but I also have a copy of the original drawings of one from England) and I fabricated one as close to the original as possible. The problem is finding the right person to bend the tube since most tubing bender machines will not bend the proper (larger) radius. Not easy but it can be done. Cheers, Curt On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > List Sages, > > My dad bought a Falcon SS exhaust system for our 100M a few years ago. We > finally got it installed recently and were chagrined to find that, when the > brake and clutch pedals are fully depressed they come scarily close to the > downpipe. Anyone else have this or a similar problem and, if so, how did you > resolve it? I know we can bend and/or cut/weld the pipe, but would like to > avoid this. Can anyone recommend a brand/source of downpipe that has the > adequate clearance? An inch forward lean to the pipe would solve this > problem. > > BTW, we fired the M's engine up for the first time yesterday after a > complete teardown/rebuild as part of our frame-off of this car. Sweet. > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From warthodson at aol.com Sun Jul 18 10:27:51 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:27:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please In-Reply-To: <001001cb2690$ce1af390$6a50dab0$@ca> References: <000901cb2623$b5c7c470$21574d50$@ca> <8CCF490C208CFB0-20D0-1BF56@webmail-m074.sysops.aol.com> <001001cb2690$ce1af390$6a50dab0$@ca> Message-ID: <8CCF4AD4D2D794A-1CE8-1EA6D@webmail-m097.sysops.aol.com> Paul, The dowel bolts I am referring to are bolts, not pins. There are two of them & they go in the bell housing to engine back plate joint. If memory serves, they go in the 5:00 & 11:00 positions when looking at the bell housing from the rear looking forward. They precisely position the bell housing, thus the transmission input shaft, into the rear of the crank shaft. These bolts are special bolts will very tight clearances for the holes they go into. The pilot bushing compresses when it is installed. Therefore, the hole in the pilot bushing must be specifically designed to take this compression into account. If you eventually have to remove the transmission/housing (I hope you don't have to do this again) carefully check the inside diameter of the pilot bushing & the diameter of the input shaft. Obviously, you don't want an interference fit. I don't know what the recommended clearance should be, but someone on the list will! Don't just arbitrarily enlarge it. A friend had this exact same problem. Everything checked out. We could not find any explanation. For unrelated reasons, we had to remove the engine & transmission. We never found the cause, but after engine repairs the problem was gone. I wish I could be of more help. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: PG To: warthodson at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Jul 18, 2010 10:49 am Subject: RE: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please!! Hi Gary, Thanks for the feedback. 1) Donbt have any dowels on the bellhousingb&are you thinking about the rear engine plate to the block? If so, yes. Also, the clutch worked fine until the new spigot bearing and new throw out bearing; 2) Spigot bearing came from Autofarm and looked fine. 3) There were no other modifications with the exception of the new DW competition throw out bearingb&.however, that is working fine. 4) Yes, the spigot is recessed into the crankb&b&the same as the old one. It is flush with the flange on the crank. I hear you about extra wear not making the problem go awayb&.it was a bit of a bHail Maryb on my part. Thanksb&.keep your comments coming. Paul From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sun Jul 18 10:52:15 2010 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:52:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please In-Reply-To: <001001cb2690$ce1af390$6a50dab0$@ca> References: <000901cb2623$b5c7c470$21574d50$@ca><8CCF490C208CFB0-20D0-1BF56@webmail-m074.sysops.aol.com> <001001cb2690$ce1af390$6a50dab0$@ca> Message-ID: <1033F91BBA4743ACBC041CB5C2106586@oscar> ..then the bearings in the 1st motion shaft are not lubed; partially seized or something similar or the thrust clearances on the main shaft are insufficient to allow the transmission to freewheel without manually stopping it.. dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of PG Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:49 AM To: warthodson at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please Hi Gary, Thanks for the feedback. 1) Don't have any dowels on the bellhousing.are you thinking about the rear engine plate to the block? If so, yes. Also, the clutch worked fine until the new spigot bearing and new throw out bearing; 2) Spigot bearing came from Autofarm and looked fine. 3) There were no other modifications with the exception of the new DW competition throw out bearing..however, that is working fine. 4) Yes, the spigot is recessed into the crank..the same as the old one. It is flush with the flange on the crank. I hear you about extra wear not making the problem go away..it was a bit of a "Hail Mary" on my part. Thanks..keep your comments coming. Paul From: warthodson at aol.com [mailto:warthodson at aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:04 AM To: britishcars at shaw.ca; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please When mating the bellhousing to the engine did you use the two special dowel bolts that are original? Apparently, the factory felt the precise location of the transmission input shaft to the pilot bushing was critical. I don't think letting it wear in is going to make the problem go away, if indeed that is the source of the problem. I can understand your frustration at this point. Did you modify anything we should know about? Where did you get your replacement pilot bushing? Is it fully installed (I.E. all the way in the crank?) Gary Hodson _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/frogeye at porterscustom.com From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 10:53:41 2010 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:53:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] frame lifting points In-Reply-To: <6BE56354EBBA4A128D0BD4B24F812403@LIFEBOOK> References: <8CCF4075CF35B55-36BC-C57A@Webmail-d123.sysops.aol.com> <6BE56354EBBA4A128D0BD4B24F812403@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: Rich, I'm sure you mean on the main chassis rails where the outriggers meet the main rails, just in case someone thinks you mean on the outriggers at those points. Right? Bob Johnson, in obvoiusman disguise BJ8 On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Rich C wrote: > Hi Ned, > > I'd suggest you lift at the points where the outriggers meet the main > chassis rails both front and rear. > > Rich From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 11:04:36 2010 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:04:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Instruments rebuilding In-Reply-To: References: <530323.85652.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <697053.6801.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Who is Lionel Otto? How to get in touch, etc? Does he do all big Healeys? Bob Johnson BJ8 On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Peter & Veronica wrote: > Beg to differ Alan - Lionel Otto's do - I have both Speedo and tacho faces > from them in my "new" 100. Indistinguishable from original > > Cheers > > Peter From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jul 18 11:05:03 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:05:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] frame lifting points In-Reply-To: References: <8CCF4075CF35B55-36BC-C57A@Webmail-d123.sysops.aol.com><6BE56354EBBA4A128D0BD4B24F812403@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <652307B88D534406A6208190E8CDB83C@LIFEBOOK> I meant where the outriggers meet the chassis rails, and spread the load with some on the chassis rails and some onto the root area of the outriggers. All those vertical sections coming together will take the full weight spread over the immediate area. Rich -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob Johnson" Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 12:53 PM To: "Rich C" Cc: ; Subject: Re: [Healeys] frame lifting points > Rich, > > I'm sure you mean on the main chassis rails where the outriggers meet > the main rails, just in case someone thinks you mean on the outriggers > at those points. Right? > > Bob Johnson, in obvoiusman disguise > BJ8 > > On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Rich C > wrote: >> Hi Ned, >> >> I'd suggest you lift at the points where the outriggers meet the main >> chassis rails both front and rear. >> >> Rich From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jul 18 11:13:40 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:13:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] SS Downpipe In-Reply-To: <228631984.185754.1279468100172.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <228631984.185754.1279468100172.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: As Curt mentioned, this is a very common occurrence. Not right, but common. The brake pedal is a non issue because when adjusted right, the pedal won't come anywhere near the pipe. The clutch pedal can still contact the pipe when fully depressed, but again, when adjusted correctly the pedal doesn't need to be depressed that far and will fully clear the clutch well before it touches the pipe. Rich -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob Spidell" Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:48 AM To: Subject: [Healeys] SS Downpipe > List Sages, > > My dad bought a Falcon SS exhaust system for our 100M a few years ago. We > finally got it installed recently and were chagrined to find that, when > the brake and clutch pedals are fully depressed they come scarily close to > the downpipe. Anyone else have this or a similar problem and, if so, how > did you resolve it? I know we can bend and/or cut/weld the pipe, but would > like to avoid this. Can anyone recommend a brand/source of downpipe that > has the adequate clearance? An inch forward lean to the pipe would solve > this problem. > > BTW, we fired the M's engine up for the first time yesterday after a > complete teardown/rebuild as part of our frame-off of this car. Sweet. > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 18 11:32:05 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:32:05 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: <4C42E131.7070405@justbrits.com> References: <62923203328a212cebee5dd22b1d339d@www.facebook.com>, <4C42E131.7070405@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Why not delete your profile to avoid future such issues? Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 06:10:41 -0500 > From: shop at justbrits.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. > > Anybody got Larry Varley's eMail addy ?!? > > Just wanna tell him that like most "smart' folks - LOL - I do > NOT "do" Facebook !! > > TIA !! > > Ed From warthodson at aol.com Sun Jul 18 12:02:06 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 14:02:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please In-Reply-To: <8CCF4AE0B7301EA-1CE8-1EADE@webmail-m097.sysops.aol.com> References: <000901cb2623$b5c7c470$21574d50$@ca><813F43BB-D195-4C7E-A48B-5B852FDF0D68@gmail.com><9344D147-68D2-4A50-9322-D26A87A7758D@gmail.com> <001501cb2691$14fa6a20$3eef3e60$@ca> <8CCF4AE0B7301EA-1CE8-1EADE@webmail-m097.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCF4BA77E5F211-478-2FFDB@webmail-d080.sysops.aol.com> Paul, When you mated the transmission to the engine did the input shaft go into the pilot bushing easily, or was it a fight? Gary Hodson From Jwhlyadv at aol.com Sun Jul 18 12:24:27 2010 From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jwhlyadv at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 14:24:27 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Clutch issue Message-ID: <7a58d.38e2b190.3974a0db@aol.com> I had a similar situation on my BN4 a few years ago and actually drove it home from North Carolina with no clutch. Upon disassembly I could not find the problem. I took it to a clutch rebuild shop that all the local stock car racers use. They had a test rig and we could watch the pressure plate in operation. After several tries we found the pressure plate arm was cracked and deflected under pressure. Jim Werner Louisville, KY From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Jul 18 13:00:08 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:00:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please In-Reply-To: <8CCF4AD4D2D794A-1CE8-1EA6D@webmail-m097.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20100718150008.CYEDA.154821.root@pamxwww06-z01> If the ID of the pilot bushing was to small such that it would not allow shifting, how in the world would you get the input shaft to fit in it in the first place? ---- warthodson at aol.com wrote: ============= Paul, The dowel bolts I am referring to are bolts, not pins. There are two of them & they go in the bell housing to engine back plate joint. If memory serves, they go in the 5:00 & 11:00 positions when looking at the bell housing from the rear looking forward. They precisely position the bell housing, thus the transmission input shaft, into the rear of the crank shaft. These bolts are special bolts will very tight clearances for the holes they go into. The pilot bushing compresses when it is installed. Therefore, the hole in the pilot bushing must be specifically designed to take this compression into account. If you eventually have to remove the transmission/housing (I hope you don't have to do this again) carefully check the inside diameter of the pilot bushing & the diameter of the input shaft. Obviously, you don't want an interference fit. I don't know what the recommended clearance should be, but someone on the list will! Don't just arbitrarily enlarge it. A friend had this exact same problem. Everything checked out. We could not find any explanation. For unrelated reasons, we had to remove the engine & transmission. We never found the cause, but after engine repairs the problem was gone. I wish I could be of more help. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: PG To: warthodson at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Jul 18, 2010 10:49 am Subject: RE: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please!! Hi Gary, Thanks for the feedback. 1) Donbt have any dowels on the bellhousingb&are you thinking about the rear engine plate to the block? If so, yes. Also, the clutch worked fine until the new spigot bearing and new throw out bearing; 2) Spigot bearing came from Autofarm and looked fine. 3) There were no other modifications with the exception of the new DW competition throw out bearingb&.however, that is working fine. 4) Yes, the spigot is recessed into the crankb&b&the same as the old one. It is flush with the flange on the crank. I hear you about extra wear not making the problem go awayb&.it was a bit of a b Hail Maryb on my part. Thanksb&.keep your comments coming. Paul _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Jul 18 13:06:03 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:06:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100718150603.4JO2R.154887.root@pamxwww06-z01> As long as you are "in" Facebook, does it matter if you have a profile or not? I think the fact that you are a member of it allows someone to ask you to be their friend--profile listed or not----right/wrong?? ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: ============= Why not delete your profile to avoid future such issues? Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 06:10:41 -0500 > From: shop at justbrits.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. > > Anybody got Larry Varley's eMail addy ?!? > > Just wanna tell him that like most "smart' folks - LOL - I do > NOT "do" Facebook !! > > TIA !! > > Ed _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From kentmclean at comcast.net Sun Jul 18 13:26:10 2010 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:26:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C435552.70804@comcast.net> Robert Duquette wrote: > Why not delete your profile to avoid future such issues? It's my understanding that they don't really delete your information, they just mark it as deleted and keep it in their database. I've also heard that if you want to "delete" yourself, obscure your data -- put in bogus information for everything you can. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From warthodson at aol.com Sun Jul 18 14:04:07 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:04:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please In-Reply-To: <20100718150008.CYEDA.154821.root@pamxwww06-z01> Message-ID: <8CCF4CB83839AAD-EBC-150D3@webmail-m077.sysops.aol.com> Tom, What I was trying to suggest is that if the input shaft is not centered in the pilot bushing (because dowel bolts were not used, for instance) the shaft might be dragging on the pilot bushing causing the input shaft to spin. Or if there is not the correct clearance between the pilot bushing & shaft (what ever that specification is), because the ID of bushing was too small the input shaft might again be dragging & spin. If the ID is smaller that the input shaft diameter I don't see how he would get one in the other either! Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Tom Felts To: warthodson at aol.com; britishcars at shaw.ca; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Jul 18, 2010 2:00 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] clutch - Need Help please If the ID of the pilot bushing was to small such that it would not allow hifting, how in the world would you get the input shaft to fit in it in the irst place? From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 16:22:57 2010 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:22:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Slow Run Valve Message-ID: Fiddling with my carbs yesterday using my Haynes manual. thru the step to 11 "Restart the engine and adjust the slow running valve to give the desired idling speed of approximately 1000 rpm." Apparently screwing the valve down slows the idle, up increases speed. Without any further adjustment than the 3 1/2 turn the engine will idle momentarily at 500-600 rpm then quite. Turning the valves down makes it die more quickly. Turning them up/out will not raise the idle speed above 600-700, but it will idle for maybe 30 seconds before stalling. This is worse as the engine gets warmer. Any ideas as to what is going on? Why will it not pick up speed? Bob Johnson BJ8 From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jul 18 18:31:18 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:31:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Slow Run Valve In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C439CD6.5070509@comcast.net> Bob, I have one SU book that says to close the slow run valves and adjust the idle with the throttle stops only, and one that says, essentially, that 'the idle must be set only with the slow run valves.' Go figure. I split the difference. In my experience, the SR valves will only give 600rpm without opening them what I consider an inordinate number of turns. I like to open the SR valves 2 turns--this gives me some leeway if I want to slow or speed up the idle depending on conditions (usually, altitude); i.e. you can open each valve a half turn, then close them back without breaking out the synchronizer (and removing the air cleaners--a major PITA). I also open the throttles a smidgen with the throttle stop screws. I prefer to have the stops stop the throttle plates--not the inside of the throttle body. I have seen where throttle plates have worn a groove inside the carb throat, all but ruining the carbs. The procedure is: 1) close slow run valves 2) adjust and synchronize the carbs with the throttle stops 3) open the SR valves 2 turns--check synchronization (should be pretty close) 4) close the throttle screws until desired idle achieved (I like about 750rpm) 5) check synchronization 6) repeat steps 1-5 as necessary (then, you can start on the fast idle settings) All this notwithstanding, your car should idle steady--if a bit rough--at 600rpm on the slow run valves only. Since your engine stalls, something else is not right. My guess would be timing, dwell and/or mixture. bs Bob Johnson wrote: > Fiddling with my carbs yesterday using my Haynes manual. thru the step > to 11 "Restart the engine and adjust the slow running valve to give > the desired idling speed of approximately 1000 rpm." Apparently > screwing the valve down slows the idle, up increases speed. Without > any further adjustment than the 3 1/2 turn the engine will idle > momentarily at 500-600 rpm then quite. Turning the valves down makes > it die more quickly. Turning them up/out will not raise the idle speed > above 600-700, but it will idle for maybe 30 seconds before stalling. > This is worse as the engine gets warmer. Any ideas as to what is going > on? Why will it not pick up speed? > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jul 18 21:40:47 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:40:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Advance Curve Message-ID: <4C43C93F.1060009@comcast.net> Anyone have the specs--i.e. advance/RPM--for a 100M distributor? TIA, Bob -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Jul 18 22:01:31 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:01:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: HD8 Slow Run Valve References: <4C439CD6.5070509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004201cb26f7$127bc530$37734f90$@verizon.net> Before you do anything with the carbs you must be sure that your timing is correct. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:31 PM To: Bob Johnson Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] HD8 Slow Run Valve Bob, I have one SU book that says to close the slow run valves and adjust the idle with the throttle stops only, and one that says, essentially, that 'the idle must be set only with the slow run valves.' Go figure. I split the difference. In my experience, the SR valves will only give 600rpm without opening them what I consider an inordinate number of turns. I like to open the SR valves 2 turns--this gives me some leeway if I want to slow or speed up the idle depending on conditions (usually, altitude); i.e. you can open each valve a half turn, then close them back without breaking out the synchronizer (and removing the air cleaners--a major PITA). I also open the throttles a smidgen with the throttle stop screws. I prefer to have the stops stop the throttle plates--not the inside of the throttle body. I have seen where throttle plates have worn a groove inside the carb throat, all but ruining the carbs. The procedure is: 1) close slow run valves 2) adjust and synchronize the carbs with the throttle stops 3) open the SR valves 2 turns--check synchronization (should be pretty close) 4) close the throttle screws until desired idle achieved (I like about 750rpm) 5) check synchronization 6) repeat steps 1-5 as necessary (then, you can start on the fast idle settings) All this notwithstanding, your car should idle steady--if a bit rough--at 600rpm on the slow run valves only. Since your engine stalls, something else is not right. My guess would be timing, dwell and/or mixture. bs From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 23:29:56 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:29:56 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Slow Run Valve In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob - Sounds to me like your car needs a complete tune up. Valves then points then timing then mixture/balance and once all of that is done is when you start fiddling with the slow idle adjustment. Alan On 7/19/10, Bob Johnson wrote: > Fiddling with my carbs yesterday using my Haynes manual. thru the step > to 11 "Restart the engine and adjust the slow running valve to give > the desired idling speed of approximately 1000 rpm." Apparently > screwing the valve down slows the idle, up increases speed. Without > any further adjustment than the 3 1/2 turn the engine will idle > momentarily at 500-600 rpm then quite. Turning the valves down makes > it die more quickly. Turning them up/out will not raise the idle speed > above 600-700, but it will idle for maybe 30 seconds before stalling. > This is worse as the engine gets warmer. Any ideas as to what is going > on? Why will it not pick up speed? > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 23:37:38 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:37:38 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Slow Run Valve In-Reply-To: <004201cb26f7$127bc530$37734f90$@verizon.net> References: <4C439CD6.5070509@comcast.net> <004201cb26f7$127bc530$37734f90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: On HD8s, cracking the throttle plates open works ok but bypasses the purpose of the slow run valve, which is to give you a nice steady & smooth idle. If you crack the throttle plates open, you'll have a couple hundred RPM variation depending on temp / conditions, etc. Incidentally on a car with triple HD8s like an S1 E-Type you'll never get idle below 800 or so if you crack open the plates. On 7/19/10, John Sims wrote: > Before you do anything with the carbs you must be sure that your timing is > correct. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:31 PM > To: Bob Johnson > Cc: Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] HD8 Slow Run Valve > > Bob, > > I have one SU book that says to close the slow run valves and adjust the > idle with the throttle stops only, and one that says, essentially, that 'the > idle must be set only with the slow run valves.' Go figure. > > I split the difference. In my experience, the SR valves will only give > 600rpm without opening them what I consider an inordinate number of turns. > I like to open the SR valves 2 turns--this gives me some leeway if I want to > slow or speed up the idle depending on conditions (usually, altitude); i.e. > you can open each valve a half turn, then close them back without breaking > out the synchronizer (and removing the air cleaners--a major PITA). I also > open the throttles a smidgen with the throttle stop screws. I prefer to > have the stops stop the throttle plates--not the inside of the throttle > body. I have seen where throttle plates have worn a groove inside the carb > throat, all but ruining the carbs. > > The procedure is: > > 1) close slow run valves > 2) adjust and synchronize the carbs with the throttle stops > 3) open the SR valves 2 turns--check synchronization (should be pretty > close) > 4) close the throttle screws until desired idle achieved (I like about > 750rpm) > 5) check synchronization > 6) repeat steps 1-5 as necessary (then, you can start on the fast idle > settings) > > All this notwithstanding, your car should idle steady--if a bit rough--at > 600rpm on the slow run valves only. Since your engine stalls, something > else is not right. My guess would be timing, dwell and/or mixture. > > > bs > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Jul 19 02:33:30 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:33:30 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] FW: HD8 Slow Run Valve In-Reply-To: <004201cb26f7$127bc530$37734f90$@verizon.net> References: <4C439CD6.5070509@comcast.net> <004201cb26f7$127bc530$37734f90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4C440DDA.8040002@chello.nl> And your valve clearances. Kees Oudesluijs John Sims wrote: > Before you do anything with the carbs you must be sure that your timing is > correct. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 19 07:24:10 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:24:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Slow Run Valve In-Reply-To: References: <4C439CD6.5070509@comcast.net> <004201cb26f7$127bc530$37734f90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4C4451FA.4020308@comcast.net> Alan, Temperature, humidity and the local barometric pressure affect air density, and overall engine performance and behavior. How does the engine know whether the mixture came through the slow run valves or the throttle plates? My BJ8's idle varies depending on the aforementioned conditions, but only slightly unless I get a few thousand feet above my usual sea level conditions, or it is exceptionally hot (lower air density). It is always steady and smooth. bs Alan Seigrist wrote: > On HD8s, cracking the throttle plates open works ok but bypasses the > purpose of the slow run valve, which is to give you a nice steady & > smooth idle. If you crack the throttle plates open, you'll have a > couple hundred RPM variation depending on temp / conditions, etc. > Incidentally on a car with triple HD8s like an S1 E-Type you'll never > get idle below 800 or so if you crack open the plates. > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jul 19 08:42:08 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:42:08 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Slow Run Valve In-Reply-To: <4C4451FA.4020308@comcast.net> References: <4C439CD6.5070509@comcast.net> <004201cb26f7$127bc530$37734f90$@verizon.net> <4C4451FA.4020308@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob - Controlling idle speed with the screw is very simple - it is a narrow valve that is highly stable, controlled and consistent. Using the throttle butterfly, you have issues of throttle linkage, dissimilar metals (brass, aluminum & steel) and fast idle screw wobble. On my BJ8 once I set my rebuilt carbs to factory spec and idle through the slow idle port (and fully shut throttle plate) it has maintained a perfect and constant 550 rpm idle for over 40K miles without so much as a touch from my screwdriver. Of course I put in a pertronix kit which made a huge difference too. Strangely enough, the carb failed because the jet diaphragm finally went, but I didn't touch the carbs for more than 5 years of almost daily running. The carbs are very well designed if set up factory spec. The little O rings on the slow idle screw are the key to the success of a proper tune. Alan On 7/19/10, Bob Spidell wrote: > Alan, > > Temperature, humidity and the local barometric pressure affect air > density, and overall engine performance and behavior. How does the > engine know whether the mixture came through the slow run valves or the > throttle plates? > > My BJ8's idle varies depending on the aforementioned conditions, but > only slightly unless I get a few thousand feet above my usual sea level > conditions, or it is exceptionally hot (lower air density). It is > always steady and smooth. > > bs > > > Alan Seigrist wrote: >> On HD8s, cracking the throttle plates open works ok but bypasses the >> purpose of the slow run valve, which is to give you a nice steady & >> smooth idle. If you crack the throttle plates open, you'll have a >> couple hundred RPM variation depending on temp / conditions, etc. >> Incidentally on a car with triple HD8s like an S1 E-Type you'll never >> get idle below 800 or so if you crack open the plates. >> > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > > -- Sent from my mobile device From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 19 08:57:35 2010 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:57:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Shroud Bracket Needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B47CE14-D0EA-4349-ADE2-E01EF99A0D0F@sbcglobal.net> We have them in stock. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 17, 2010, at 1:05 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote: > Looking for the "L" shaped bracket that connects the front shroud > to the > bracket welded to the front left frame piece. I do not find it in the > catalogs. > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 19 09:47:38 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Slow Run Valve In-Reply-To: <1776554553.224288.1279553981766.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1502210147.224820.1279554458036.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Well, we're arguing nits here, but .... re: " Using the throttle butterfly, you have issues of throttle linkage, dissimilar metals (brass, aluminum & steel) and fast idle screw wobble." I submit none of these are a factor, since at idle the throttles are stopped (on my car) by the throttle stop screws. The linkage is not in play--except to pull the throttle shafts to the stops--nor is the fast idle screw (there should be some clearance between the fast idle screw and the cam at idle) and any metal dissimilarity is insignificant (if you set everything when the engine is hot--like it'll be when you're driving--differing metal coefficients of expansion are automatically compensated for). I don't like the idea of the two strong throttle return screws slamming the throttle plates shut in the (soft aluminum) carb throat--I believe you'll wear a groove eventually. I also prefer to idle a little faster, so I'm getting electrical power from the generator and not draining the battery (with a generator, at least with mine, you're running off the battery until around 650-700rpm). bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Bob - Controlling idle speed with the screw is very simple - it is a narrow valve that is highly stable, controlled and consistent. Using the throttle butterfly, you have issues of throttle linkage, dissimilar metals (brass, aluminum & steel) and fast idle screw wobble. On my BJ8 once I set my rebuilt carbs to factory spec and idle through the slow idle port (and fully shut throttle plate) it has maintained a perfect and constant 550 rpm idle for over 40K miles without so much as a touch from my screwdriver. Of course I put in a pertronix kit which made a huge difference too. Strangely enough, the carb failed because the jet diaphragm finally went, but I didn't touch the carbs for more than 5 years of almost daily running. The carbs are very well designed if set up factory spec. The little O rings on the slow idle screw are the key to the success of a proper tune. Alan From fogbro1 at comcast.net Mon Jul 19 09:47:50 2010 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:47:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Where's Richard Evans References: <929388.40012.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: List, I'm trying to locate a fellow that bought two BT7's from me many years ago. The cars were HBT7L 123 and 2027. He lived in Uniontown, PA in the late '70's or early '80's. Anyone out there ever hear of him or of the cars? Thanks, Ed Woods From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 19 09:52:56 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:52:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: <20100718150603.4JO2R.154887.root@pamxwww06-z01> References: , <20100718150603.4JO2R.154887.root@pamxwww06-z01> Message-ID: Wrong, I 'think'. If you delete your profile people shouldn't be able to find you. I confess that I haven't tried yet. > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:06:03 -0400 > From: tomfelts at windstream.net > To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. > > As long as you are "in" Facebook, does it matter if you have a profile or not? I think the fact that you are a member of it allows someone to ask you to be their friend--profile listed or not----right/wrong?? > > > > > ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > > ============= > Why not delete your profile to avoid future such issues? > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > > > > > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 06:10:41 -0500 > > From: shop at justbrits.com > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. > > > > Anybody got Larry Varley's eMail addy ?!? > > > > Just wanna tell him that like most "smart' folks - LOL - I do > > NOT "do" Facebook !! > > > > TIA !! > > > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 19 10:04:05 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Slow Run Valve In-Reply-To: <1502210147.224820.1279554458036.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1634756787.226091.1279555445083.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Oops ... "I don't like the idea of the two strong throttle return screws" should be "throttle return SPRINGS" -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Well, we're arguing nits here, but .... re: " Using the throttle butterfly, you have issues of throttle linkage, dissimilar metals (brass, aluminum & steel) and fast idle screw wobble." I submit none of these are a factor, since at idle the throttles are stopped (on my car) by the throttle stop screws. The linkage is not in play--except to pull the throttle shafts to the stops--nor is the fast idle screw (there should be some clearance between the fast idle screw and the cam at idle) and any metal dissimilarity is insignificant (if you set everything when the engine is hot--like it'll be when you're driving--differing metal coefficients of expansion are automatically compensated for). I don't like the idea of the two strong throttle return screws slamming the throttle plates shut in the (soft aluminum) carb throat--I believe you'll wear a groove eventually. I also prefer to idle a little faster, so I'm getting electrical power from the generator and not draining the battery (with a generator, at least with mine, you're running off the battery until around 650-700rpm). bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Jul 19 10:09:38 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:09:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: References: , <20100718150603.4JO2R.154887.root@pamxwww06-z01> Message-ID: <006b01cb275c$ca2c3380$5e849a80$@verizon.net> I may be wrong, but everything that I have read about Facebook indicates that it is almost impossible to delete a profile. There was an article recently in a local paper about how some people had tried to erase the Facebook page from a relative who had died and even though they used the proper ID and password and got a response that the page had been delete, it was still on the site. The current issue of PC World Magazine has an article entitled "Can You Really Trust Facebook?" Best policy is to never sign on. I am sorry that I did and thinking strongly of changing all profile information to phrases such as "none of your business". John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:53 AM To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. Wrong, I 'think'. If you delete your profile people shouldn't be able to find you. I confess that I haven't tried yet. > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:06:03 -0400 > From: tomfelts at windstream.net > To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. > > As long as you are "in" Facebook, does it matter if you have a profile > or not? I think the fact that you are a member of it allows someone to ask you to be their friend--profile listed or not----right/wrong?? From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Jul 19 10:28:35 2010 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:28:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: <006b01cb275c$ca2c3380$5e849a80$@verizon.net> References: , <20100718150603.4JO2R.154887.root@pamxwww06-z01> <006b01cb275c$ca2c3380$5e849a80$@verizon.net> Message-ID: For all the bitching and moaning about FB, the benefits of getting touch with folks and learning what's up in a real easy, basically free, manner have made it the huge success that it is. Many of my older friends are having a blast getting back in touch with people and seeing family friend pictures. I'm all over FB and love it. Wilko San Diego From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Mon Jul 19 10:32:04 2010 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <526753.1323.qm@web52405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I "signed up" for Facebook a few years ago and then changed my mind. Never made a profile or anything else and never tried to extract myself. I get people wanting to be my "friend" all the time. If it's someone I know, I call them and tell them we can be friends. Best JK --- On Mon, 7/19/10, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > Wrong, I 'think'. If you delete > your profile people shouldn't be able to find > you. I confess that I haven't tried yet. From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jul 19 10:48:57 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZXllcmEzQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==?=) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:48:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?Larry_Varley_wants_to_be_friends_on_Facebook?= =?utf-8?q?=2E?= Message-ID: <4c4481e9.12968e0a.438d.6b7d@mx.google.com> I get emsil requedt to be a friend Ignore those. They spam trying to get username. Password. Log into fb from web page to verify friend request Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Please excuse typos Ira Erbs DIGS-4 Solutions. IT Consulting ----- Reply message ----- From: "John Sims" Date: Mon, Jul 19, 2010 9:09 am Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. To: , "'Healeys'" I may be wrong, but everything that I have read about Facebook indicates that it is almost impossible to delete a profile. There was an article recently in a local paper about how some people had tried to erase the Facebook page from a relative who had died and even though they used the proper ID and password and got a response that the page had been delete, it was still on the site. The current issue of PC World Magazine has an article entitled "Can You Really Trust Facebook?" Best policy is to never sign on. I am sorry that I did and thinking strongly of changing all profile information to phrases such as "none of your business". John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:53 AM To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. Wrong, I 'think'. If you delete your profile people shouldn't be able to find you. I confess that I haven't tried yet. > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:06:03 -0400 > From: tomfelts at windstream.net > To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. > > As long as you are "in" Facebook, does it matter if you have a profile > or not? I think the fact that you are a member of it allows someone to ask you to be their friend--profile listed or not----right/wrong?? _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 19 10:49:20 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:49:20 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: <4C435552.70804@comcast.net> References: , <4C435552.70804@comcast.net> Message-ID: I don't know that much about it. I consider the internet to be public in any form. Every email you've ever sent probably exists somewhere in some form. I 'think' that Canada might be different in it's relations with Facebook? I seem to remember something about the data storage issue and Canada's privacy laws. Obscuring the data in that manner might help, but depending on what it is being used for, they might be saving all versions of info entered. > Robert Duquette wrote: > > Why not delete your profile to avoid future such issues? > > It's my understanding that they don't really delete your information, > they just mark it as deleted and keep it in their database. I've also > heard that if you want to "delete" yourself, obscure your data -- put > in bogus information for everything you can. > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > _______________________________________________ From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Jul 19 11:34:34 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:34:34 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Facebook Message-ID: <37cf.2e2bcd7c.3975e6aa@aol.com> Since I edit print magazines, I've been spending a lot of time thinking about these new means of communications that are (no joke, I'm totally serious here) revolutionized our civilization to the same extent that occurred when movable type and literacy eventually wiped out minstrels, messengers and oral traditions in the 14-18 centuries. Only this time it's happening in the space of two generations. in any case, what Facebook really amounts to is the capability for each person to form his own Healey List among his own friends, tailored exactly to his own interests, which allows him whenever he wants to maintain conversations and exchange photographs with a circle of friends and acquaintances of his own choosing. We like the Healey List because we all share this one interest in common, but now each person can have his or her own list. If we wanted to create a Healey Facebook List (and I'm sure there already are several, we could replace this list with that group almost instantaneously. And everyone is right -- as this new method of communication has developed, the concepts of privacy that were workable when the printed word was the only way to save information and distribute it are dead and gone unless you've always been living totally off the grid, paying in money or barter, and living a life where you never ever had to sign your name. Welcome to the brave new world, old print/paper guys. Gary From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Jul 19 11:50:16 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:50:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Facebook In-Reply-To: <37cf.2e2bcd7c.3975e6aa@aol.com> References: <37cf.2e2bcd7c.3975e6aa@aol.com> Message-ID: well said! Don't forget the impact of party line phones to create a social network. On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:34 AM, wrote: > Since I edit print magazines, I've been spending a lot of time thinking > about these new means of communications that are (no joke, I'm totally > serious > here) revolutionized our civilization to the same extent that occurred when > movable type and literacy eventually wiped out minstrels, messengers and > oral traditions in the 14-18 centuries. Only this time it's happening in > the > space of two generations. > > in any case, what Facebook really amounts to is the capability for each > person to form his own Healey List among his own friends, tailored exactly > to > his own interests, which allows him whenever he wants to maintain > conversations and exchange photographs with a circle of friends and > acquaintances of > his own choosing. We like the Healey List because we all share this one > interest in common, but now each person can have his or her own list. If we > wanted > to create a Healey Facebook List (and I'm sure there already are several, > we could replace this list with that group almost instantaneously. > > And everyone is right -- as this new method of communication has developed, > the concepts of privacy that were workable when the printed word was the > only way to save information and distribute it are dead and gone unless > you've > always been living totally off the grid, paying in money or barter, and > living a life where you never ever had to sign your name. > > Welcome to the brave new world, old print/paper guys. > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From rcobb at earthlink.net Mon Jul 19 12:51:51 2010 From: rcobb at earthlink.net (R. Cobb) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:51:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World Message-ID: <4C449EC7.8070905@earthlink.net> Brave (or naive) New World or not, I would not be inclined to participate in a Facebook Healey page as an alternative to this list. Certainly, I feel more comfortable with the security issues confronted on this list compared to the related issues of using Facebook. That being the case, if it ever came to transferring the list to Facebook, that would seem to me like an exclusionary, not inclusionary move. I wonder how others feel? Bob From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 19 13:07:41 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World In-Reply-To: <4C449EC7.8070905@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1425978111.239411.1279566461629.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I like this List. Besides, if we moved to FB we wouldn't have Ed, and no one wants that. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Brave (or naive) New World or not, I would not be inclined to participate in a Facebook Healey page as an alternative to this list. Certainly, I feel more comfortable with the security issues confronted on this list compared to the related issues of using Facebook. That being the case, if it ever came to transferring the list to Facebook, that would seem to me like an exclusionary, not inclusionary move. I wonder how others feel? Bob _______________________________________________ From rwil at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 19 13:11:14 2010 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:11:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World In-Reply-To: <4C449EC7.8070905@earthlink.net> References: <4C449EC7.8070905@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Looking at the troubles that Facebook has been having in Europe and elsewhere concerning privacy, and looking at the ways that Facebook's managers approach individual privacy (such as it is, today), I am in no hurry to sign up to Facebook, for any reason. While it might be easy to have a Healeys list on Facebook (I don't really know), it would be a list that was contaminated with all sorts of other stuff, at least as far as an individual who participated was concerned. Doesn't sound like fun to me. Please "Include me out." -Roland On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:51:51 -0500, Bob wrote: ::Brave (or naive) New World or not, I would not be inclined to ::participate in a Facebook Healey page as an alternative to this list. :: ::Certainly, I feel more comfortable with the security issues confronted ::on this list compared to the related issues of using Facebook. That ::being the case, if it ever came to transferring the list to Facebook, ::that would seem to me like an exclusionary, not inclusionary move. :: ::Bob From 3000mk3 at bighealey.org Mon Jul 19 13:18:07 2010 From: 3000mk3 at bighealey.org (tom mitchell) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:18:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World In-Reply-To: <4C449EC7.8070905@earthlink.net> References: <4C449EC7.8070905@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <007501cb2777$1f9e4a50$5edadef0$@org> Hi, As my mail was suspended while on vacation, I'm coming into this late, sorry With that said, I don't trust any information put up on FaceBook. I come from a large family and while I can see its benefits, I only accessing it sporadically. Its FaceBook (IMHO) lack of privacy coupled with their lack of concern for my privacy and their eagerness to change rules (privacy and others) at my expense that I object to. I would be highly resistant to participate in a FaceBook Healey page as an alternative to this list. Tom Mitchell Ann Arbor, Michigan 1965 Austin Healey BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of R. Cobb Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:52 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World Brave (or naive) New World or not, I would not be inclined to participate in a Facebook Healey page as an alternative to this list. Certainly, I feel more comfortable with the security issues confronted on this list compared to the related issues of using Facebook. That being the case, if it ever came to transferring the list to Facebook, that would seem to me like an exclusionary, not inclusionary move. I wonder how others feel? Bob _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/3000mk3 at bighealey.org From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jul 19 13:21:24 2010 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:21:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World In-Reply-To: <1425978111.239411.1279566461629.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emer yville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <4C449EC7.8070905@earthlink.net> <1425978111.239411.1279566461629.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <201007191221313.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 02:07 PM 7/19/2010, Bob Spidell wrote: >I like this List. > >Besides, if we moved to FB we wouldn't have Ed, and no one wants that. > > >bs --------- Or worse, we'd have to see him.... Peter C From gmandas at yahoo.com Mon Jul 19 15:47:47 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Facebook Message-ID: <780797.597.qm@web56103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Gary, et. al., As a Computer Systems Manager of a content management system putting Encyclopedias on paper, then CD-ROM, and now the WEB, I have used the same Reformation analogy to express the magnitude as well as the turmoil the information revolution is presenting us with. Whereas movable type gave the common person access to reference the data, the Internet is giving the common person access to create and distribute data. For example, WikiPedia. See something you don't like? Hit edit, make the changes and then save. I did it. You can too. On a personal note, last year I got a phone call from my daughter, an Air Force WSO just after CERE training, asking me to remove all of her baby pictures from the family Web Site. The Bad Guys have Internet, too. Back to Encyclopedias, it's not enough anymore to just put them on the Internet. No more, "Build it and they will come." Now it's all about Guided Learning, Correlations to State and National Standards and assessments (NCLB), what we used to call tests. Right now we are saving in some database for posterity what little 10 year old Johnny answered to: The Moon revolves around the ____ (Pick one: Sun, Earth, Jupiter, Mars.) The ONE MOST important of the many new responsibilities this data age has presented each and everyone of us with is, we must manage our personal data. Sorry folks, and I helped. FaceBook is relatively easy. Go into you profile settings and set the security level on everything to "Friends Only". Next, Don't put anything in FaceBook or any other Web Page, you don't want public. Lastly, be careful who you choose as friends. If you want off of FaceBook, click Account in upper right, then Account Settings, then Deactivate Account. Your account will be closed. I do not know what happens to the information already stored on their computers. I do know other people won't be able to see it anymore. What's hard to manage are things like medical records. It's why the question, "Is there an inherent right to privacy in the Constitution?" is very important. Greg --- On Mon, 7/19/10, Editorgary at aol.com > > wrote: > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Facebook > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 1:34 PM > > Since I edit print magazines, I've > > been spending a lot of time thinking > > about these new means of communications that are (no > joke, > > I'm totally serious > > here) revolutionized our civilization to the same > extent > > that occurred when > > movable type and literacy eventually wiped out > minstrels, > > messengers and > > oral traditions in the 14-18 centuries. Only this time > it's > > happening in the > > space of two generations. From mslechta at chartermi.net Mon Jul 19 16:56:59 2010 From: mslechta at chartermi.net (Mike Slechta) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:56:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Facebook Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Slechta To: Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Facebook My stepson conned me into going on Facebook. I never really cared for it & have had questions concerning security. Having read all the exchanges from "Listers", I decided to Deactivate my account per Greg's info. Having completed the deactivation process, I got an e-mail from Facebook stating: "Hi Mike, You have deactivated your Facebook account. You can reactivate your account at any time by logging into Facebook using your old login email and password. You will be able to use the site like you used to. Thanks, The Facebook Team". I guess what I'm getting at here is your info, Profile, etc. does not get deleated, as many "Listers" have stated. Thanks Greg. Mad Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Mandas To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Facebook Gary, et. al., From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Mon Jul 19 19:00:15 2010 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (Jose Vicente Vargas) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:00:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Altette horns rebuilt where In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0F4EEB57-0FBB-4705-9BE7-2F7BCD776F4D@yahoo.com> Where can I have my altette horns rebuilt in the USA Thanks, Jose Vicente Vargas Sent from my ipod On Jul 19, 2010, at 5:56 PM, "Mike Slechta" wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Slechta > To: > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Facebook > > > My stepson conned me into going on Facebook. I never really cared for it & > have had questions concerning security. Having read all the exchanges from > "Listers", I decided to Deactivate my account per Greg's info. > Having completed the deactivation process, I got an e-mail from Facebook > stating: "Hi Mike, > You have deactivated your Facebook account. You can reactivate your account at > any time by logging into Facebook using your old login email and password. You > will be able to use the site like you used to. Thanks, > The Facebook Team". > I guess what I'm getting at here is your info, Profile, etc. does not get > deleated, as many "Listers" have stated. > Thanks Greg. > Mad Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg Mandas > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Facebook > > > Gary, et. al., > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 19 19:04:20 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:04:20 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Facebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: But, how long ago was that? I think they've had to change some things. I rarely use FB, BTW. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: mslechta at chartermi.net > To: gmandas at yahoo.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:56:59 -0500 > Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Facebook > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Slechta > To: > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Facebook > > > My stepson conned me into going on Facebook. I never really cared for it & > have had questions concerning security. Having read all the exchanges from > "Listers", I decided to Deactivate my account per Greg's info. > Having completed the deactivation process, I got an e-mail from Facebook > stating: "Hi Mike, > You have deactivated your Facebook account. You can reactivate your account at > any time by logging into Facebook using your old login email and password. You > will be able to use the site like you used to. Thanks, > The Facebook Team". > I guess what I'm getting at here is your info, Profile, etc. does not get > deleated, as many "Listers" have stated. > Thanks Greg. > Mad Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg Mandas > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Facebook > > > Gary, et. al., > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/robertduquette at sympatico.ca From ynotink at msn.com Mon Jul 19 19:30:56 2010 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:30:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help In-Reply-To: References: <5B911737F2424E5FBF204914DC14B405@S0026273562>, , <656FFF57501C4914830EA260083B43C2@GregPC>, Message-ID: Sarah, Looking at the BN1 trans in the latest Moss catalog (the numbering is a little different) and trying to remember when I built mine, I am kind of drawing a blank on this detail , but I'm wondering if the pin (cotter) you are working on is a half moon (similar to those used on the lower lnk bushings on the front suspension) instead of a taper. In that case the trick is to tap the cotter into a neutral position and then remove the lever by moving it off the end of the shaft. Might be worth a try... Bill Lawrence > From: scvc70 at epix.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:39:19 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help > > We're going to continue trying various penetrants combined with constant > pressure (we had to get a larger/heavier C-clamp, as the one we started with > actually bent under the strain!). There's no rust visible anywhere--the > area was protected by the shifter control box, and the whole gearbox looks > well cared-for--and we can't believe the pin withstands the kind of pressure > we've been putting on it. (Look at Moss Motors' on-line catalog to see > exactly what we're dealing with--pin #64, which holds lever #65 to shaft > #70.) Fortunately we're in no hurry to get this thing apart. We'll report > the eventual outcome.... > > > Sarah Carr > BN1 in PA > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Lemon" > To: "Michael Salter" ; "Carr&Edwards" > > Cc: > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 gearbox help > > > >I posted before seeing Micheals note, if you can get a similar pin (I was > >pictuiring the set up in my mind like it was pretty familar, then I read > >Micheals note, bycycle crank pin, of course, the light went off in my head, > >bing bing bing) I would defer to his knowledge an experience and go that > >route, if you cut the thing off at the exit point you should be able to > >drive it out with a punch, of if not start drilling since the part is now > >toast anyway.. > > > > Good Luck > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Jul 19 19:59:44 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:59:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100719215944.8Q5VO.163646.root@pamxwww04-z01> I've seen people who have no info except their name (required) and you can ask them to be your friend w/o any info except their name-----i think". ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: ============= Wrong, I 'think'. If you delete your profile people shouldn't be able to find you. I confess that I haven't tried yet. > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:06:03 -0400 > From: tomfelts at windstream.net > To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. > > As long as you are "in" Facebook, does it matter if you have a profile or not? I think the fact that you are a member of it allows someone to ask you to be their friend--profile listed or not----right/wrong?? > > > > > ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > > ============= > Why not delete your profile to avoid future such issues? > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > > > > > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 06:10:41 -0500 > > From: shop at justbrits.com > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. > > > > Anybody got Larry Varley's eMail addy ?!? > > > > Just wanna tell him that like most "smart' folks - LOL - I do > > NOT "do" Facebook !! > > > > TIA !! > > > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Jul 19 20:08:47 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:08:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100719220847.8HUNK.163794.root@pamxwww04-z01> I have found some old friends on FB that I would never have found w/o it. I contrrol what goes out and in, so it is not a problem for me. Plus----there is loads of room for photo's of old friends and just about anything else you want. I like it myself, but see no need to replace this list with it. ---- Roland Wilhelmy wrote: ============= Looking at the troubles that Facebook has been having in Europe and elsewhere concerning privacy, and looking at the ways that Facebook's managers approach individual privacy (such as it is, today), I am in no hurry to sign up to Facebook, for any reason. While it might be easy to have a Healeys list on Facebook (I don't really know), it would be a list that was contaminated with all sorts of other stuff, at least as far as an individual who participated was concerned. Doesn't sound like fun to me. Please "Include me out." -Roland On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:51:51 -0500, Bob wrote: ::Brave (or naive) New World or not, I would not be inclined to ::participate in a Facebook Healey page as an alternative to this list. :: ::Certainly, I feel more comfortable with the security issues confronted ::on this list compared to the related issues of using Facebook. That ::being the case, if it ever came to transferring the list to Facebook, ::that would seem to me like an exclusionary, not inclusionary move. :: ::Bob _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Mon Jul 19 20:23:30 2010 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 02:23:30 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Altette horns rebuilt where In-Reply-To: <0F4EEB57-0FBB-4705-9BE7-2F7BCD776F4D@yahoo.com> References: , <0F4EEB57-0FBB-4705-9BE7-2F7BCD776F4D@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here is a place where they do repair Lucas horns in the US. Check:www.british-car-part-restoration.com-lucas_horns.html Jean Caron > From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com > Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:00:15 -0500 > To: mslechta at chartermi.net > CC: healeys at autox.team.net; gmandas at yahoo.com > Subject: [Healeys] Altette horns rebuilt where > > Where can I have my altette horns rebuilt in the USA > > Thanks, > > Jose Vicente Vargas > > Sent from my ipod > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 5:56 PM, "Mike Slechta" wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mike Slechta > > To: > > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 5:35 PM > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Facebook > > > > > > My stepson conned me into going on Facebook. I never really cared for it & > > have had questions concerning security. Having read all the exchanges > from > > "Listers", I decided to Deactivate my account per Greg's info. > > Having completed the deactivation process, I got an e-mail from Facebook > > stating: "Hi Mike, > > You have deactivated your Facebook account. You can reactivate your account > at > > any time by logging into Facebook using your old login email and password. > You > > will be able to use the site like you used to. Thanks, > > The Facebook Team". > > I guess what I'm getting at here is your info, Profile, etc. does not get > > deleated, as many "Listers" have stated. > > Thanks Greg. > > Mad Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Greg Mandas > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 4:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Facebook > > > > > > Gary, et. al., > > _______________________________________________ > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/vintage_roadster_restoration at ho tmail.com _________________________________________________________________ From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 19 20:30:00 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:30:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Air Filter for 100 Message-ID: <4C450A28.4090909@comcast.net> Now that we've got our 100M running, I'm looking to put a good air filter on the freshly rebuilt engine. We've got the adapter for the cold air box to a 4" "hard" (heavy paper and foil) tube, and the tube, but I'm not sure how to affix an air filter to the end of the tube. I'm considering one of two K&N filters--one would have its flange inserted into the tube, and one would have the tube inserted into the flange; i.e. tube into the filter, or filter into the tube. Any suggestions on how to attach one of the filters? Are the tubes strong enough to have a filter clamped onto one, or should I clamp the tube onto the filter flange? As always, any suggestions appreciated. Bob -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Jul 19 23:05:59 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:05:59 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World Message-ID: <2c04a.452d7f4b.397688b7@aol.com> Never proposed that we should switch the Healey list to Facebook -- we're Baby Boomers on this list, in the vast majority I think, so there's no way that most of the folks here would ever agree. Facebook is on the other side of that great print world /internet world divide and most of us will never understand it, but will die before it matters whether or not we understand the phenomenon that's taking place. My point was that this list was created and is maintained at great effort to serve a one specific shared set of interests of a group of people who could only otherwise communicate by meeting each other personally and then sharing information one piece at a time to one person at a time. Facebook, for all its flaws, does that a zillion times a day, with every user participating in his or her own specially tailored and infinitely responsive network. There's nothing that says our generation has to participate, or even that we have to like the visible effects of what has taken place. But refusing to participate isn't going to change the fact that the change has taken place, and it is only starting (with the quant-jock created housing/financial debacle as one example) to have its effects. As the man once said: "you have sown the wind, and you will reap the whirldwind." The interesting thing, of course, is that the millenial, or internet, generation enjoys the breeze. Cheers Gary From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 01:26:13 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:26:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World In-Reply-To: <2c04a.452d7f4b.397688b7@aol.com> References: <2c04a.452d7f4b.397688b7@aol.com> Message-ID: I was an early adopter of Facebook and while it has some advantages, generally speaking I find it more or less annoying now and I rarely look at it. I no longer interact regularly on Facebook. On 7/20/10, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > Never proposed that we should switch the Healey list to Facebook -- we're > Baby Boomers on this list, in the vast majority I think, so there's no way > that most of the folks here would ever agree. Facebook is on the other side > of > that great print world /internet world divide and most of us will never > understand it, but will die before it matters whether or not we understand > the > phenomenon that's taking place. > > My point was that this list was created and is maintained at great effort > to serve a one specific shared set of interests of a group of people who > could only otherwise communicate by meeting each other personally and then > sharing information one piece at a time to one person at a time. Facebook, > for > all its flaws, does that a zillion times a day, with every user > participating > in his or her own specially tailored and infinitely responsive network. > > There's nothing that says our generation has to participate, or even that > we have to like the visible effects of what has taken place. But refusing to > participate isn't going to change the fact that the change has taken place, > and it is only starting (with the quant-jock created housing/financial > debacle as one example) to have its effects. As the man once said: "you have > sown > the wind, and you will reap the whirldwind." The interesting thing, of > course, is that the millenial, or internet, generation enjoys the breeze. > > Cheers > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Tue Jul 20 05:47:21 2010 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:47:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World References: <20100719220847.8HUNK.163794.root@pamxwww04-z01> Message-ID: <64AAEDA24B9A4DFB97FCCAABE9E00C0F@your4dacd0ea75> " I have found some old friends on FB that I would never have found w/o it." The irony is that many of the people on the world wide web of Facebook have unlisted telephone numbers due to paranoia, or wanting "privacy". Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "R. Cobb" ; "Roland Wilhelmy" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brave New World >I have found some old friends on FB that I would never have found w/o it. >I contrrol what goes out and in, so it is not a problem for me. >Plus----there is loads of room for photo's of old friends and just about >anything else you want. > > I like it myself, but see no need to replace this list with it. > > > > ---- Roland Wilhelmy wrote: From Editorgary at aol.com Tue Jul 20 05:52:45 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:52:45 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World Message-ID: <819e.7b5d02e4.3976e80d@aol.com> As I noted; if you're on the baby boomer side of the fence, you probably don't see the point of most social networking. If you're on the millennial side of the fence, you don't understand why anyone wouldn't see the point. Gary From price at advocateadvisors.com Tue Jul 20 06:23:23 2010 From: price at advocateadvisors.com (R. Price Lindsay) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:23:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World In-Reply-To: <819e.7b5d02e4.3976e80d@aol.com> References: <819e.7b5d02e4.3976e80d@aol.com> Message-ID: <9E7FC377-196E-433C-B6A0-0D5AFACA3714@advocateadvisors.com> So, if we are interested in attracting those on the other side (millennials), shouldn't we embrace their communication processes? Price Lindsay (630) 841-6300 M (312) 753-7706 T Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2010, at 8:03 AM, "Editorgary at aol.com" wrote: > As I noted; if you're on the baby boomer side of the fence, you > probably > don't see the point of most social networking. If you're on the > millennial > side of the fence, you don't understand why anyone wouldn't see the > point. > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/price at advocateadvisors.com From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Jul 20 06:26:15 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 8:26:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World In-Reply-To: <64AAEDA24B9A4DFB97FCCAABE9E00C0F@your4dacd0ea75> Message-ID: <20100720082615.Z1AV9.97575.root@pamxwww02-z01> Who needs a phone? If you find them and communicate by FB e-mail AND they respond, that's all I need--and IF they upload a few photo's, so much the better. tom ---- Dallas Congleton wrote: ============= " I have found some old friends on FB that I would never have found w/o it." The irony is that many of the people on the world wide web of Facebook have unlisted telephone numbers due to paranoia, or wanting "privacy". Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "R. Cobb" ; "Roland Wilhelmy" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brave New World >I have found some old friends on FB that I would never have found w/o it. >I contrrol what goes out and in, so it is not a problem for me. >Plus----there is loads of room for photo's of old friends and just about >anything else you want. > > I like it myself, but see no need to replace this list with it. > > > > ---- Roland Wilhelmy wrote: From medlabinc at msn.com Tue Jul 20 06:29:26 2010 From: medlabinc at msn.com (Dick Matson) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 05:29:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Facebook Message-ID: Right. And I've never recd an 'you've done some sort of illegal operation' message from the printed page either. I like the AH magazines very much. And the list. DM / Bj8 ----- Original Message ----- From: I Erbs To: Editorgary at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Facebook well said! Don't forget the impact of party line phones to create a social network. On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:34 AM, > wrote: > Since I edit print magazines, I've been spending a lot of time thinking > about these new means of communications that are (no joke, I'm totally > serious > here) revolutionized our civilization to the same extent that occurred when > movable type and literacy eventually wiped out minstrels, messengers and > oral traditions in the 14-18 centuries. Only this time it's happening in > the > space of two generations. > > in any case, what Facebook really amounts to is the capability for each > person to form his own Healey List among his own friends, tailored exactly > to > his own interests, which allows him whenever he wants to maintain > conversations and exchange photographs with a circle of friends and > acquaintances of > his own choosing. We like the Healey List because we all share this one > interest in common, but now each person can have his or her own list. If we > wanted > to create a Healey Facebook List (and I'm sure there already are several, > we could replace this list with that group almost instantaneously. > > And everyone is right -- as this new method of communication has developed, > the concepts of privacy that were workable when the printed word was the > only way to save information and distribute it are dead and gone unless > you've > always been living totally off the grid, paying in money or barter, and > living a life where you never ever had to sign your name. > > Welcome to the brave new world, old print/paper guys. > > Gary > _______________________________________________ From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Jul 20 06:47:02 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:47:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World In-Reply-To: <819e.7b5d02e4.3976e80d@aol.com> References: <819e.7b5d02e4.3976e80d@aol.com> Message-ID: <00d001cb2809$a710e4b0$f532ae10$@verizon.net> While I do not access FB often, I have found it invaluable in tracing people. I have been tasked with finding "missing" classmates for our 55th high school reunion and in the past year have found 14 of them who years ago dropped out of sight. Some no longer with us but most still alive and kicking. To paraphrase Joe Louis, - They can run but they can't hide. For that purpose I like it. But also it emphasizes the fact that if you belong, you are "out there" and anyone can find you even if you do not want to be found. I just do not have the time to sit on the computer all day and play the FB games, enter meaningless stuff on the "wall" or other things like some people. For some it is addictive like the ones that you see yakking incessantly on a cell phone. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:53 AM To: healey.nut at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World As I noted; if you're on the baby boomer side of the fence, you probably don't see the point of most social networking. If you're on the millennial side of the fence, you don't understand why anyone wouldn't see the point. Gary From stuart_shepherd at sil.org Tue Jul 20 06:54:46 2010 From: stuart_shepherd at sil.org (Stuart Shepherd) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:54:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN 2 paint question Message-ID: <79b11b216a564a45bdfbbce2d6dba2ab@sil.org> Am I correct in assuming that the original paint on a 1956 BN 2 was acrylic lacquer. Stuart BN 4 BN 2 From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 07:06:17 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:06:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World In-Reply-To: <819e.7b5d02e4.3976e80d@aol.com> References: <819e.7b5d02e4.3976e80d@aol.com> Message-ID: Gary - Actually many of the younger current high school generation have actually gone "off grid." Think about it, no FB/Myspace = no annoying monitoring of your activities from Mom and Dad! Alan On 7/20/10, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > As I noted; if you're on the baby boomer side of the fence, you probably > don't see the point of most social networking. If you're on the millennial > side of the fence, you don't understand why anyone wouldn't see the point. > Gary > -- Sent from my mobile device From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Tue Jul 20 07:23:34 2010 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:23:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN 2 paint question In-Reply-To: <79b11b216a564a45bdfbbce2d6dba2ab@sil.org> References: <79b11b216a564a45bdfbbce2d6dba2ab@sil.org> Message-ID: <036a01cb280e$c1c075a0$454160e0$@net> I think the paint on most 50's and 60,s LBCs was Nitrocellulose lacquers. Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stuart Shepherd Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:55 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BN 2 paint question Am I correct in assuming that the original paint on a 1956 BN 2 was acrylic lacquer. Stuart BN 4 BN 2 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/hgmiller3 at qwest.net From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 08:14:18 2010 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:14:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Slow Run Valve In-Reply-To: <1634756787.226091.1279555445083.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1502210147.224820.1279554458036.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1634756787.226091.1279555445083.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Once again the list come through as a learning experience. Thanks to all, and especially to Steve for taking time to rewrite the manual's instructions in a much clearer and succinct manner. I always wondered if it was just me that felt like terms that shifted about was confusing. Apparently not. Bob Johnson BJ8 From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 08:25:01 2010 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:25:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World In-Reply-To: <20100720082615.Z1AV9.97575.root@pamxwww02-z01> References: <64AAEDA24B9A4DFB97FCCAABE9E00C0F@your4dacd0ea75> <20100720082615.Z1AV9.97575.root@pamxwww02-z01> Message-ID: Facebook privacy seems to be getting better, but I still am not a great fan. However, I have just learned that you can email someone that you might want to reacquaint with before you get into the whole friending thing. For me that is a great step forward. If it works out, then you can friend, etc. Bob Johnson BJ8 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jul 20 08:29:35 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:29:35 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BN 2 paint question In-Reply-To: <79b11b216a564a45bdfbbce2d6dba2ab@sil.org> References: <79b11b216a564a45bdfbbce2d6dba2ab@sil.org> Message-ID: <4C45B2CF.5040509@chello.nl> Not acrylic but cellulose. You need to seal or remove the paint when you repaint with modern paints. Kees Oudesluijs NL Stuart Shepherd wrote: > Am I correct in assuming that the original paint on a 1956 BN 2 was acrylic > lacquer. > > > > Stuart > > > > BN 4 > > > > BN 2 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.839 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3017 - datum van uitgifte: 07/20/10 08:36:00 From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 09:25:28 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZXllcmEzQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==?=) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:25:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?Facebook=2C_Healey_List=2C_and_the_Brave_New_?= =?utf-8?q?World?= Message-ID: <4c45bfd8.02558f0a.6e0c.ffffb7ba@mx.google.com> Yes!!!! Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Please excuse typos Ira Erbs DIGS-4 Solutions. IT Consulting ----- Reply message ----- From: "R. Price Lindsay" Date: Tue, Jul 20, 2010 5:23 am Subject: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World To: Cc: So, if we are interested in attracting those on the other side (millennials), shouldn't we embrace their communication processes? Price Lindsay (630) 841-6300 M (312) 753-7706 T Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2010, at 8:03 AM, "Editorgary at aol.com" wrote: > As I noted; if you're on the baby boomer side of the fence, you > probably > don't see the point of most social networking. If you're on the > millennial > side of the fence, you don't understand why anyone wouldn't see the > point. > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/price at advocateadvisors.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 20 09:26:06 2010 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:26:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 paint question Message-ID: It is very important to know that you must remove all the old lacquer paint before doing any body work or paint. If you don't the paint job will look good for maybe three months or so until the paint starts to sink or lift. Message: 11 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:54:46 -0400 From: "Stuart Shepherd" Subject: [Healeys] BN 2 paint question To: "healeys at autox.team.net" Message-ID: <79b11b216a564a45bdfbbce2d6dba2ab at sil.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Am I correct in assuming that the original paint on a 1956 BN 2 was acrylic lacquer. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From ggilliam at usol.com Tue Jul 20 11:27:32 2010 From: ggilliam at usol.com (ggilliam at usol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:27:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Portland, Or Area listeners Message-ID: <450f7faaad01e18905c3aa13a4ec6a57@usol.com> I,m here in Portland from Michigan visiting my daughter for a few days and was wondering if any of you are near the Skidmore - Williams area and would care to spend a few minutes together? If so, you can reply to this note or call my cell at 810-397-3356. Gordy BNB4-L From s.hutchings at rogers.com Tue Jul 20 15:04:47 2010 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:04:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Steering box end cover Message-ID: I plan to put the heavier steering lube in my steering box when it goes back into the car, so this probably won't be an issue ...however: I can't help wonder how one can seal the end cover gasket, when you've got all those shims between the cover and the gasket. If I were using gear oil, I'd want to put Hylomar or something between the shims.. .am I misunderstanding something? Stephen, BJ8 From kaynmike.bham at juno.com Tue Jul 20 15:05:42 2010 From: kaynmike.bham at juno.com (kaynmike.bham at juno.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:05:42 GMT Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Backfire-AHA ! Message-ID: <20100720.140542.27877.0@webmail20.vgs.untd.com> I was in here a couple of weeks ago about this.....car. Idled ok, but try to rev it up and --sounded like a firefight in my garage and the neighbors noted it as well. Got many great suggestions and following good advice, did the easiest stuff first. Had some generous local help and THE THING RUNS! It was electrical, in the distributor and specifically the little piece that makes the connection from the coil to the distributor. (It's in the M--ss catalog, where the dist. for 100,s is. It is listed as no. 18 "Low Tension Lead and Bush.") We are not clear which aspect of that part was the most egregious a failure. Well the wire lead terminates in a connector loop-type end and that was holding by a thread and the black,hard rubber seal which fits into the dist.was brittle and possibly a conductor to ground-intermittantly. Anyway this list is awesome. Mike Gougeon BN2 From dwflagg at juno.com Tue Jul 20 16:58:22 2010 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg at juno.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:58:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World Message-ID: <20100720.155847.7387.113902@mailpop09.dca.untd.com> I am still trying to understand the obsession with having to be in constant or virtual contact. People become paranoid if someone does not respond "real-time". Why are people screwed up - information overload!! And can someone please tell me why people have to put their lives in the picture window for the world to see and then complain when they are harassed or the victim ( and I use the tern loosely) of identity theft. Hello, it is a bit like leaving your car parked with the keys in the ignition and complaining when it is stolen!! FB diminishes the meaning of friend the way making an after market "M" diminishes the original. New is not always better. I still like to talk, face to face, write letters, and use a real telephone. Call me old fashion, but you have your freakin brave new world!!! Doug > I like this List. > > Besides, if we moved to FB we wouldn't have Ed, and no one wants > that. > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > Brave (or naive) New World or not, I would not be inclined to > participate in a Facebook Healey page as an alternative to this > list. > > Certainly, I feel more comfortable with the security issues > confronted > on this list compared to the related issues of using Facebook. That > > being the case, if it ever came to transferring the list to > Facebook, > that would seem to me like an exclusionary, not inclusionary move. > > I wonder how others feel? > > Bob > _______________________________________________ > ____________________________________________________________ Project Management Cert Villanova PMP® & CAPM® Classes. Average Salary For PMPs is $100K http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c462a60143013a9a93st01duc From s.hutchings at rogers.com Tue Jul 20 17:42:06 2010 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:42:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Steering box end cover In-Reply-To: <00ce01cb2856$f79c5f70$e6d51e50$@com> References: <00ce01cb2856$f79c5f70$e6d51e50$@com> Message-ID: My concern is that the gasket adds to the thickness...one between each shim would add a lot of thickness. I rather thought that hylomar would compress enough not to matter. Stephen, BJ8 >Paper gasket between each shim. I used a lot of them. Without the gaskets, >even heavy lube will ooze and make a mess. > >Best regards, >Jim Hockert >Dallas, TX From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 17:47:07 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZXllcmEzQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==?=) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:47:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?Brave_New_World?= Message-ID: <4c46356c.2665730a.7326.ffffb7b5@mx.google.com> Generational. fb does not prevent other means of communication. Fb encourages communication of a diffetent nature. Gary, said it...If you the younger folk to get interested in out cars. We need to use fb Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Please excuse typos Ira Erbs DIGS-4 Solutions. IT Consulting ----- Reply message ----- From: dwflagg at juno.com Date: Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:58 pm Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World To: Cc: , I am still trying to understand the obsession with having to be in constant or virtual contact. People become paranoid if someone does not respond "real-time". Why are people screwed up - information overload!! And can someone please tell me why people have to put their lives in the picture window for the world to see and then complain when they are harassed or the victim ( and I use the tern loosely) of identity theft. Hello, it is a bit like leaving your car parked with the keys in the ignition and complaining when it is stolen!! FB diminishes the meaning of friend the way making an after market "M" diminishes the original. New is not always better. I still like to talk, face to face, write letters, and use a real telephone. Call me old fashion, but you have your freakin brave new world!!! Doug > I like this List. > > Besides, if we moved to FB we wouldn't have Ed, and no one wants > that. > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > Brave (or naive) New World or not, I would not be inclined to > participate in a Facebook Healey page as an alternative to this > list. > > Certainly, I feel more comfortable with the security issues > confronted > on this list compared to the related issues of using Facebook. That > > being the case, if it ever came to transferring the list to > Facebook, > that would seem to me like an exclusionary, not inclusionary move. > > I wonder how others feel? > > Bob > _______________________________________________ > ____________________________________________________________ Project Management Cert Villanova PMP® & CAPM® Classes. Average Salary For PMPs is $100K http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c462a60143013a9a93st01duc _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From kentmclean at comcast.net Tue Jul 20 17:48:02 2010 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:48:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C4635B2.4080503@comcast.net> Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > But refusing to participate isn't going to change the fact that > the change has taken place, La La la la la, I can't hear you. :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From austin.healey at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 18:03:52 2010 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:03:52 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World In-Reply-To: <20100720.155847.7387.113902@mailpop09.dca.untd.com> References: <20100720.155847.7387.113902@mailpop09.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Guys, with all due respect, you are missing part of the point of facebook. You can set your privacy to none. You can set your privacy to prescreened friends only. And a number of points in between. If I want to ask my friends if they want to go to a concert - one message on facebook will easily get the invite out to a number of likeminded friends. Or I could do it the old fashioned way and ring 10 or 20 people. I also use facebook to keep in touch with numerous relatives from around the world. And they with me. And anyone who doubts the security aspect, go and find me on facebook (Chris Dimmock, Sydney Australia) and tell me what you can find out about me from facebook. Not from other sites - just facebook. I speak at a lot of conferences, and it's pretty easy to find my Austin Healey website - but what can you find about me from facebook?? Facebook and Twitter will never replace this list, anymore than a fax machine will. Sure, you can use a hammer and cold chisel to undo a nut, but it probably isn't the tool of choice, if you like. FB and Twitter etc are a different animal, with a different purpose. Email, with an archive, is the perfect solution for our list. And thank you Mark for providing it. Chris Sent from my iPhone On 21/07/2010, at 8:58 AM, dwflagg at juno.com wrote: > I am still trying to understand the obsession with having to be in > constant or virtual contact. People become paranoid if someone does > not > respond "real-time". Why are people screwed up - information > overload!! > And can someone please tell me why people have to put their lives in > the > picture window for the world to see and then complain when they are > harassed or the victim ( and I use the tern loosely) of identity > theft. > Hello, it is a bit like leaving your car parked with the keys in the > ignition and complaining when it is stolen!! FB diminishes the > meaning of > friend the way making an after market "M" diminishes the original. > New is > not always better. I still like to talk, face to face, write > letters, and > use a real telephone. Call me old fashion, but you have your freakin > brave new world!!! > > Doug > >> I like this List. >> >> Besides, if we moved to FB we wouldn't have Ed, and no one wants >> >> >> >> >> >> Brave (or naive) New World or not, I would not be inclined to >> participate in a Facebook Healey page as an alternative to this >> list. >> >> Certainly, I feel more comfortable with the security issues >> confronted >> on this list compared to the related issues of using Facebook. From haywoodone at hotmail.com Tue Jul 20 18:17:39 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:17:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2010-Galena Message-ID: Hello everyone, Well Conclave is over now-I haven't seen any posts from Conclave attendees re: their week. Sherry and I Arrived late Sunday evening, checked in, and went to bed after planning our Monday activities. Early Monday we got up and prepared for the Popularity Show @9AM. I went down and washed all the road grime and tar spray off and cleaned the wheels as best I could in the time I had. We lined up and went over to downtown Galena for pictures and final line up on main street. There was a little confusion on classes but we lined up on time and the show went off without incident. What a beautiful venue for the show and the cars complimented the town superbly. There were plenty of shops open for food, snacks, ice cream, gifts, etc., and the temps were pleasing. Although we didn't win any awards we enjoyed the day and the rest of the week. The Galena area has plenty of nice roads to Healey around on. There are also things to see within a days drive of town as well as beautiful mansions in town to admire. US Grant also had at least one home there overlooking the town that has been preserved nicely. There is a statue of his wife in the front yard--All I can say is he must have been in love or "she had a good personality". I'd like to thank the Midwest Region AHCA for hosting and putting on a very nice show last week. Things went quite smoothly I thought and the entire week passed by entirely too fast for me. There is a tremendous amount of work that goes into hosting one of these events so kudos to all that planned and all that volunteered their time to make it happen. We have been to the last 4 Conclaves and the last 2 had access to repair services on site. Thank you to The Healey Werks for being there this time, I know at least four Healey owners that benefitted from that service. I can't begin to include all that went on last week and get it posted so I'll just say the week was great, the self guided tours were well thought out, and the "FUN RALLY" was challenging @*&%! There was a dinner cruise that sold out quickly and I understand it was a hit (we couldn't get a ticket). The hospitality tent in the evenings turned out to be a great place to discuss the days occurrences. Everything was just quite nice. We reacquainted with old (prior) friends from other Conclaves and met new friends as well. Now we are on our return journey back to NC and I will update you on the post Conclave activities we've been involved in hopefully on a daily basis; I am already behind on that but plan to catch you up later tonight. Take care, George & Sherry Haywood _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Tue Jul 20 19:15:12 2010 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:15:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Steering box end cover References: <00ce01cb2856$f79c5f70$e6d51e50$@com> Message-ID: <74D8B7E4949448DDAE50276B01CA29FB@XPS400> Hylomar worked for me. No paper between the shims. Ron Fine 61BN7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Hutchings" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering box end cover > My concern is that the gasket adds to the thickness...one between each > shim would add a lot of thickness. I rather thought that hylomar would > compress enough not to matter. > Stephen, BJ8 > >>Paper gasket between each shim. I used a lot of them. Without the >>gaskets, >>even heavy lube will ooze and make a mess. >>Best regards, >>Jim Hockert >>Dallas, TX > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ronfineesq at earthlink.net From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Tue Jul 20 19:25:43 2010 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 01:25:43 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 front stub axles (also called spindles) Message-ID: I'm looking for a pair of BJ8 front stub axles, also called spindles by some of us. They are different from earlier 3000 and 100-6 spindles in that they have the mounting ears for the calipers. They are also noticeably different - one is for the right side and the other is for the left side. Early 3000s have a completely separate bracket that the calipers mount to and so both sides spindles are identical. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Jul 20 20:41:08 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:41:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Need Hundred Parts Message-ID: <7F895CE2766C487A8169DA8C6A667513@LIFEBOOK> Hello all, I am searching for the following for a BN1 restoration and these items are missing: - oil pressure feed line, runs from engine bay in to back side of oil pressure gauge (same as BN2 but very different from 6 cylinder) - wiper motor and drive assembly complete with rack, and wheel boxes (unique only to BN1) Can anybody help? Rich Chrysler From glemon at neb.rr.com Tue Jul 20 20:49:50 2010 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:49:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Brave New World Message-ID: <00A4A602EAC2447AA76FCFBC581DF045@GregPC> I don't know much about facebook, fact of the matter is I think I am pretty "hep" and "with it" because I know how to use e-mail and a computer pretty well, I don't use facebook, twitter or talk or text on my cell phone all day long, as a matter of fact I like my computer and the internet, but kind of look on the cell phone as a necessary evil. I would guess many of you are the same. Could Facebook be a good tool to communicate with the younger set about our cars--sure Will the typical guy (or gal) in the Healey club or on this list embrace it? No (I know there are exceptions, but most, no) Will Facebook in and of itself capture a whole new generations interest in Healeys or collector cars? no takes a lot more than that, including a lot of exposure to the cars in person and in popular media (we actually get a bit of that in advertisements and music videos etc. from time to time, but not enough) and with friends and family. I know my interest in Healeys and LBC's in general came from it being something I looked upon as cool to own someday back when I was too young to have a car, or too poor to afford much of one. The current generation mostly wants the latest smartphone, many are totally car apathetic, certainly not all, there will be some interest in the next generation, but it will be a much smaller group than ours because they just didn't get to ride in them, have older brothers that had them, see them on the streets and think they were cool when they were young, etc. etc. near as much as us. That is a fact, in my opinion the automobile is also not seen as much as something to aspire to, something cool, something that defines self near as much in the younger set. There will always be a market and interest but it usually peaks when the age group for which these cars were just out of reach or something they enjoyed when they were simply a new/used car fades into the sunset. I think we are at or even slightly past the peak of the 50s/60s British car hobby interest right now, we can lament all we want, but time marches on. Greg Lemon From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 20 21:08:34 2010 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:08:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey sports and touring club Encounter Message-ID: Encounter 2010 August 11-15, 2010 Come join us at Normandy Farm, Blue Bell, PA, for our annual weekend event. More info at www.austin-healey-stc.org The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From haywoodone at hotmail.com Tue Jul 20 21:17:02 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:17:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Post Conclave Adventures to South Dakota Message-ID: Hi all, Sherry & I left Conclave on Fri morning 'bout 10AM and made a bee line across Iowa on hwy 20 to Sioux City then turned Northwest a little to head to Yankton, SD. On the way over we passed thru Lawton, Ia., the home of The Healey Werks. We waved as we passed by but they were closed for the day. Bet they spent the day catching up on the weeks werk since the boss was on his way back. Boy did the terrain change the farther west we traveled. Those beautiful rolling hills around Galena began to flatten as we went. Corn fields, soy beans, and hay was about the only thing happening in those parts. The occasional dead deer on the road, a few chip monk like rodents scurrying about, and the "smell of money" as one of my Nebraska friends said of her family's hog operation. The cattle feed lots were something else that gave us an olfactory experience from time to time depending on which side of the highway they were located. There were two different areas that had Wind Farms with wind generators as far as you could see in the distance and at least a mile wide of highway frontage. The gas stations usually offered 91 octane and boasted ethanol in their product ?% so I was reluctant to fill up (but had no choice). Their motto was get it in the Middle West not the Middle East or something to that effect. So far no problems that I can tell so the % must be about 10% or so. As we turned North on I-29 I felt that the car in the left lane was hanging beside me too long since I was going about 5 MPH slower than posted speed. I looked over and there were my friends that I met @ Conclave, John Marshall and his wife Ethel, waving as they were heading home to Sioux Falls after their Conclave week. We headed for Yankton and pulled in about 7PM to check into our room. The next day (Sat.) I had a reunion @ my college Alma Mater, Mount Marty College. It wasn't a reunion specific to my class but one that the college puts on each year to get Alumni back for a visit. This was my first time back in 28 yrs. There was a Banquet in the evening and Sherry and I had the privilege to be seated at the honors table because the chief of my program was presenting an award to a faculty member. She wanted us to sit with her to catch up on my last 28 yrs. It was a very nice reunion and we visited for a couple of hours after the banquet catching up on old times. The next day we traveled to Sioux Falls where I completed part of my training, saw the Falls of the Big Sioux River, headed over to Mn. to say we've been there then headed south to start our journey home to NC. A nice beginning. George & Sherry Haywood _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From rwil at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 20 21:18:21 2010 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:18:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brave New World In-Reply-To: <4c46356c.2665730a.7326.ffffb7b5@mx.google.com> References: <4c46356c.2665730a.7326.ffffb7b5@mx.google.com> Message-ID: As usual, we old, uh "folks" are behind the times. The latest polls show that Facebook rates down there with the IRS among those we are hoping to interest in Healeys. Now, it may be that the pollees like what Facebook does but not how it does it. I could agree with that, though the whippersnappers and I might not agree on what we like that Facebook does. Odds are, something new will replace Facebook long before American Healey clubs get around to taking advantage of Facebook. -Roland older than the Boomers. BN1 #724 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:47:07 -0700,Ira wrote: ::Generational. fb does not prevent other means of communication. Fb encourages communication of a diffetent nature. Gary, said it...If you the younger folk to get interested in out cars. We need to use fb :: ::Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ::Please excuse typos ::Ira Erbs ::DIGS-4 Solutions. IT Consulting :: From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jul 20 21:50:14 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:50:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 Shroud and Drivetrain in Cincinnati Message-ID: <4C466E76.7070806@comcast.net> Someone on the LinkedIn (there's another new-fangled thing) Healey forum has a BJ7 shroud and engine/trans for sale. Anyone interested? Still working on getting direct contact info for him. bs -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From mark at bradakis.com Tue Jul 20 22:27:53 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:27:53 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World In-Reply-To: <2c04a.452d7f4b.397688b7@aol.com> References: <2c04a.452d7f4b.397688b7@aol.com> Message-ID: <4C467749.5050609@bradakis.com> Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > My point was that this list was created and is maintained at great effort > to serve a one specific shared set of interests of a group of people > Gee, I appreciate folks who appreciate what it is I do behind the scenes to keep Team.Net on the air. I just wish more of them would make use of the donate link below. In truth the Healey list members do provide generous support of the cause, I can't complain. I should probably spend some time digging through archives and saved files and such and figure out when I split Healeys off from the general British car list, just to see how long this has been a stand alone list. Team.Net has been around a LONG time, based on computer years, much longer than Facebook, Yahoo, Google, EBay, etc. If I could have foreseen the future and pushed you folks in the right direction I'd be a zillionaire by now. Oh well, so much for selfless service paying off. I have promoted a bit of modernization, trying to get more folks involved in http://www.team.net/forums - pictures, no message size limits and quoting restrictions, the pull vs. push approach is easier on the server. But folks here just don't want to change. I guess if they wanted to modernize they wouldn't be driving a Healey! It has been over twenty years since I started doing this. I wonder if 20 years from now Facebook will be long forgotten and Team.Net will still be doing something to keep the spirit alive. mjb. From rwil at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 20 22:53:57 2010 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:53:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World In-Reply-To: <4C467749.5050609@bradakis.com> References: <2c04a.452d7f4b.397688b7@aol.com> <4C467749.5050609@bradakis.com> Message-ID: I surely hope so! -Roland On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:27:53 -0600, MJB wrote: ::It has been over twenty years since I started doing this. I wonder ::if 20 years from now Facebook will be long forgotten and Team.Net ::will still be doing something to keep the spirit alive. :: ::mjb. From haywoodone at hotmail.com Tue Jul 20 23:58:50 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 01:58:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Monday- Post Conclave Message-ID: Well, Sun. night we stopped in fort Dodge, Ia. after traveling to Sioux Falls, SD., then down to Sioux City, Ia. Heading back East on Hwy 20 nothing much had changed since our drive over. While filling up with gas I noticed that I had a broken spoke on one wheel but since I was so tired I decided to change out with the spare in the AM. When Mon. came it had rained overnight and was wet in the AM so we packed up and moved on. I didn't change the wheel cause I didn't feel like starting off all wet today. Heading E on Hwy 20 toward Waterloo we passed 2 wind farms with wind generators as far as you could see deep and at least a mile on the highway frontage. There sure is plenty of wind in these parts to harness. Also Iowa gas stations have a motto that says something like " ethanol, get it from the Midwest and not the Mideast". There is also plenty of corn out here. At Waterloo we headed S on Hwy 63 toward Mo. We were driving along down the highway admiring the corn, beans, and hay and noticing the artwork on the barn loft doors. The farmers have painted quilt patterns on their loft doors on barns all over southern Ia. They are quite colorful and tastefully done as well. We passed thru a couple of Mennonite (or Hutterite) communities heading south and saw several buggies pulled by beautiful horses trotting along beside the highway. The people waved and smiled at us as we passed by. Even they recognize the beauty of a fine machine when they see one. We were driving out in the boon docks when the gas gage was reading low. We pulled over in the town called-you guessed it--Boon Docks at the Phillips 66 station to fill up. We got gas and a T shirt to prove it. As we pulled off Sherry said that the owner must have a sense of humor since he put 67 1/2 in the logo where usually there is 66 of the Phillips sign. Then I became worried about what I had just put in the tank. I guess I saw what I wanted to see when the gage was bouncing off E but everything is running smoothly. It had been raining off and on all day and under an abandoned station with awnings I pulled over to change out the wheel. When I checked the spokes again I found 3 broken spokes now, all on the same wheel luckily. These roads with the frost heaves are rough on wire wheels. After changing the wheels and repacking the trunk we headed off. As we headed south on 63 the rolling hills came back the closer to Mo. we got. The sky was angry and rain came off and on. We stopped in Kirkville, Mo. for the night. See Part 2. George & Sherry Haywood _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From healeyray at yahoo.com Tue Jul 20 23:59:22 2010 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World In-Reply-To: <4C467749.5050609@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <205066.84059.qm@web111409.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Yes here's to twenty more years! As they say on facebook MJB you rock... I will get that donation off now. Ray Juncal --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Mark J Bradakis wrote: From: Mark J Bradakis Subject: Re: [Healeys] Facebook, Healey List, and the Brave New World To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:27 PM Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > My point was that this list was created and is maintained at great effort > to serve a one specific shared set of interests of a group of people > Gee, I appreciate folks who appreciate what it is I do behind the scenes to keep Team.Net on the air. I just wish more of them would make use of the donate link below. In truth the Healey list members do provide generous support of the cause, I can't complain. I should probably spend some time digging through archives and saved files and such and figure out when I split Healeys off from the general British car list, just to see how long this has been a stand alone list. Team.Net has been around a LONG time, based on computer years, much longer than Facebook, Yahoo, Google, EBay, etc. If I could have foreseen the future and pushed you folks in the right direction I'd be a zillionaire by now. Oh well, so much for selfless service paying off. I have promoted a bit of modernization, trying to get more folks involved in http://www.team.net/forums - pictures, no message size limits and quoting restrictions, the pull vs. push approach is easier on the server. But folks here just don't want to change. I guess if they wanted to modernize they wouldn't be driving a Healey! It has been over twenty years since I started doing this. I wonder if 20 years from now Facebook will be long forgotten and Team.Net will still be doing something to keep the spirit alive. mjb. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com From ruvino at ripnet.com Wed Jul 21 07:09:07 2010 From: ruvino at ripnet.com (Dr. C. Rubino) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:09:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] tires Message-ID: <605BE55BA3E84E17948E9BD468B62D63@RubinoPC> Going to replace my tires with Kumo. My tire size is 195/65 R15. I know a lot of you have gone with this brand. Do you have a recommendation for model? From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 21 09:11:29 2010 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:11:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Goodyear Eagle GT Message-ID: <66DC8CB7-9440-4367-B287-AE01F045069C@sbcglobal.net> If you are looking for a really good tire in the 195/65 15 size i would recomend this Good Year tire. We have used this on several different cars from MGs to Triumphs and all the owners have been very happy with their performance http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp? tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle +GT&partnum=965VR5GT&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . From jpayne at ThorCon.net Wed Jul 21 10:08:53 2010 From: jpayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:08:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Goodyear Eagle GT In-Reply-To: <66DC8CB7-9440-4367-B287-AE01F045069C@sbcglobal.net> References: <66DC8CB7-9440-4367-B287-AE01F045069C@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: $.02 I just pulled a set of these off of a Customer's 66 bj8 siting the following problems: Incorrect appearance Tramlining Hard Ride Hard low speed steering Excessive wear due to camber/front end setup on old british cars (the modern "rectangular section" tires wear irregularly because the new tires are designed to work with little or no negative camber) I can vouch for the wear, ride and the steering issues from test drives. To each their own on appearance. I replaced them with a set of 195 series vriedstiens, which cost nearly two and a half times as much, but are a very good tire. They fill out the wheel well better (look better), ride better and offer less resistance at low speeds. Additionally, they offer a better slip angle(?) that is more in line with a vintage car, allowing the car to be set up to drift much easier. Jonas Payne PBR . _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net "This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender(s) at (702) 269-2007 and delete all copies from your system. It is not the intent of the sender to solicit any person or business. Please note that any opinions in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thor Construction, Incorporated. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage or loss caused by any virus transmitted by this email." From flyhihealey at hotmail.com Wed Jul 21 10:25:26 2010 From: flyhihealey at hotmail.com (Warren Dietz) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:25:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix\British Car Day In-Reply-To: References: <8B1C800AEA104CE9A7997EFE7A964920@DIETZ>, Message-ID: Any list folks attending? 7/24/10 http://www.pvgp.org/pvgp/site/default.asp _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 21 11:28:36 2010 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:28:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Goodyear Eagle GT In-Reply-To: References: <66DC8CB7-9440-4367-B287-AE01F045069C@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <007FA351-F0C9-4FDE-B343-6E9DC4D1B194@sbcglobal.net> What size 195 Vrederstein tires did you use. We used to install their 195 70 15 tire and they are no longer available. As for the camber we have a set of upper shock link bushings that allow for adjusting the camber. Also there are adjustable shock plates available. The tire wear on these cars usually is not a problem since the get so little miles. Most of the time a tire will need to be replace due to age rather that wear. Apprearance is all up to the owner. Some car i have had in the shop have some pretty odd tire sizes. Hard Ride and Tramlining can go together and this will happen anytime you start into a High Performance tire or shorter or wider than original tire. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 21, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Jonas Payne wrote: > $.02 > > I just pulled a set of these off of a Customer's 66 bj8 siting the > following problems: > > Incorrect appearance > Tramlining > Hard Ride > Hard low speed steering > Excessive wear due to camber/front end setup on old british > cars (the modern "rectangular section" tires wear irregularly > because the new tires are designed to work with little or no > negative camber) > > I can vouch for the wear, ride and the steering issues from test > drives. To each their own on appearance. > > I replaced them with a set of 195 series vriedstiens, which cost > nearly two and a half times as much, but are a very good tire. > > They fill out the wheel well better (look better), ride better and > offer less resistance at low speeds. Additionally, they offer a > better slip angle(?) that is more in line with a vintage car, > allowing the car to be set up to drift much easier. > > > > Jonas Payne > PBR > > > > > . > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > jpayne at thorcon.net > > "This email and any attachments are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. 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From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Jul 21 11:33:44 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:33:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix\British Car Day In-Reply-To: References: <8B1C800AEA104CE9A7997EFE7A964920@DIETZ>, Message-ID: <660F3A658EB94E60AED750D8F8A707CF@LIFEBOOK> If anybody sees a Florida Green over OEW factory M there, let them know I said hello and to please contact me. We built it up in the early '90's for the owner who was from the Pittsburgh area and haven't seen or heard of it since. Rich Chrysler Hundred Registrar -------------------------------------------------- From: "Warren Dietz" Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:25 PM To: "Healey List" Subject: [Healeys] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix\British Car Day > Any list folks attending? 7/24/10 > > > http://www.pvgp.org/pvgp/site/default.asp From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jul 21 11:42:57 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Goodyear Eagle GT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1917779494.350644.1279734177262.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Good input. But, shouldn't it be "... new tires are designed to work with little or no POSITIVE camber," given that book camber for Big Healesy is 1deg positive (and many have more)? bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA $.02 I just pulled a set of these off of a Customer's 66 bj8 siting the following problems: Incorrect appearance Tramlining Hard Ride Hard low speed steering Excessive wear due to camber/front end setup on old british cars (the modern "rectangular section" tires wear irregularly because the new tires are designed to work with little or no negative camber) I can vouch for the wear, ride and the steering issues from test drives. To each their own on appearance. I replaced them with a set of 195 series vriedstiens, which cost nearly two and a half times as much, but are a very good tire. They fill out the wheel well better (look better), ride better and offer less resistance at low speeds. Additionally, they offer a better slip angle(?) that is more in line with a vintage car, allowing the car to be set up to drift much easier. Jonas Payne PBR From fogbro1 at comcast.net Wed Jul 21 12:00:15 2010 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:00:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix\British Car Day References: <8B1C800AEA104CE9A7997EFE7A964920@DIETZ>, Message-ID: <5F560995727B4068A64F3DB41EEF483F@Edscomputer> I'll be at British Car Day at the PVGP on Saturday with my TF. The Healey remains a project. Ed Woods From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed Jul 21 12:13:48 2010 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:13:48 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] OD Cone clutch relining Message-ID: <3E5E7C710D524F0F87E776FCCBD82763@tm> Hello, Does anyone know who does well OD cone clutch relining? Preferably in UK... :-) Best, Tadek From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jul 21 13:02:11 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:02:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix\British Car Day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100721150212.DSYNN.125855.root@pamxwww02-z01> Have been since 1989 and will have three cars entered in BCD this year. Anyone who can, try to make it. It is a BIG car happening. tom ---- Warren Dietz wrote: ============= Any list folks attending? 7/24/10 http://www.pvgp.org/pvgp/site/default.asp _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jul 21 13:03:25 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:03:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix\British Car Day In-Reply-To: <660F3A658EB94E60AED750D8F8A707CF@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <20100721150325.XOZ8W.125883.root@pamxwww02-z01> Never seen an "M" of this color combo in 21 years here. Could be, of course, but haven't seen it. tom ---- Rich C wrote: ============= If anybody sees a Florida Green over OEW factory M there, let them know I said hello and to please contact me. We built it up in the early '90's for the owner who was from the Pittsburgh area and haven't seen or heard of it since. Rich Chrysler Hundred Registrar -------------------------------------------------- From: "Warren Dietz" Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:25 PM To: "Healey List" Subject: [Healeys] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix\British Car Day > Any list folks attending? 7/24/10 > > > http://www.pvgp.org/pvgp/site/default.asp _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Wed Jul 21 13:26:32 2010 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:26:32 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] OD Cone clutch relining In-Reply-To: <3E5E7C710D524F0F87E776FCCBD82763@tm> References: <3E5E7C710D524F0F87E776FCCBD82763@tm> Message-ID: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011B0E4B4028@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Hi Tadek, I can recommend Hardy Engineering: http://www.hardyengineering.co.uk/content_contact.htm Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Tadeusz Malkiewicz Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. Juli 2010 20:14 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] OD Cone clutch relining Hello, Does anyone know who does well OD cone clutch relining? Preferably in UK... :-) Best, Tadek From jpayne at ThorCon.net Wed Jul 21 13:32:24 2010 From: jpayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:32:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Goodyear Eagle GT In-Reply-To: References: <1917779494.350644.1279734177262.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob, You are of course correct. I Had my + and b camber confused. Aargh! Regardless b the camber on our LBCbs is opposite what the modern tires are designed to deal with. Look at nearly any directional type performance tire and youbll see different treadblocks between the inner and outer side of the tire. This contributes significantly to wear and level of effort felt at the steering wheel. David b I saw the Vriedstiens at two websites listed in both 185 and 195 series. I am unaware of them being discontinued. I sure hope not b Ibm going to need a set for my Healey in a few months. I am lso was curious about some of the reproductions from Coker and Universal, which I have not tried. The sporty Vintage Pirellibs are over $350, but some of the others look promising. I just put a set of reproduction universals on my XK-150, but unfortunately, havenbt had enough wheel time to render a decision. Jonas Payne PBR ________________________________ "This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender(s) at (702) 269-2007 and delete all copies from your system. It is not the intent of the sender to solicit any person or business. Please note that any opinions in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thor Construction, Incorporated. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage or loss caused by any virus transmitted by this email." From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 13:47:29 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:47:29 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] OD Cone clutch relining In-Reply-To: <3E5E7C710D524F0F87E776FCCBD82763@tm> References: <3E5E7C710D524F0F87E776FCCBD82763@tm> Message-ID: Tadek - I have had very good work from Klassik transmission and their prices are very fair. Service is excellent. http://www.klassiktrans.co.uk/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/klassik?opendocument&part=3 Alan On 7/21/10, Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know who does well OD cone clutch relining? > > Preferably in UK... :-) > > Best, Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From mgcharlie at comcast.net Wed Jul 21 14:16:16 2010 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:16:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix\British Car Day In-Reply-To: <660F3A658EB94E60AED750D8F8A707CF@LIFEBOOK> References: <8B1C800AEA104CE9A7997EFE7A964920@DIETZ>, <660F3A658EB94E60AED750D8F8A707CF@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <4C475590.7030509@comcast.net> Rich, There is a car like that in the Lancaster, PA area. That's over 200 miles from Pgh. I don't know who restored it for him. We will take the black tricarb again this year. Charlie Rich C wrote: > If anybody sees a Florida Green over OEW factory M there, let them > know I said hello and to please contact me. We built it up in the > early '90's for the owner who was from the Pittsburgh area and haven't > seen or heard of it since. > > Rich Chrysler > Hundred Registrar > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Warren Dietz" > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:25 PM > To: "Healey List" > Subject: [Healeys] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix\British Car Day > >> Any list folks attending? 7/24/10 >> >> >> http://www.pvgp.org/pvgp/site/default.asp > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From rchaskell at earthlink.net Wed Jul 21 18:29:40 2010 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:29:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] water pump Message-ID: <4C4790F4.6030809@earthlink.net> Listers, What's the current wisdom regarding breaking-in a new water pump? Method? Cheers, Bob 3000 MkI Registrar From fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com Wed Jul 21 21:15:08 2010 From: fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com (Fred Crowley) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:15:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Big Healey Race Engine Question Message-ID: <7BC8E2A818354BAB955B7856437D3B93@FredsLaptop> Folks, This is directed primarily to those who have a race prepped engine in their car. I am looking for a replacement for the type of spark plugs that I have been using for quite a while. The plugs I've been using are Splitfires SF6C. These plugs are now out of production. A bit disappointing as this particular model seems to be the correct heat range and have been working well. My engine (2963cc) runs approximately 12:1 compression, 240# cranking pressure, 300 degree cam, cast iron head, and uses 110 Octane race fuel. Any suggestions for a replacement plug for these engine conditions? Cheers, Fred Crowley Team Healey Texas From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Wed Jul 21 21:24:06 2010 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:24:06 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <4C4790F4.6030809@earthlink.net> References: <4C4790F4.6030809@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I usually start the engine. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:29:40 -0400 > From: rchaskell at earthlink.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] water pump > > Listers, > > What's the current wisdom regarding breaking-in a new water pump? Method? > > Cheers, > > Bob > 3000 MkI Registrar > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From haywoodone at hotmail.com Wed Jul 21 22:05:58 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:05:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Post Conclave Adventure Part 2 Message-ID: Mon. eve. we stopped in Kirkville, Mo. for the night. It rained off and on all day and the skies were angry looking. After hanging all the wet stuff in the room, and eating we settled in for the night. About 12:30-1 AM the tornado siren sounded so we got partially dressed, and went to the first floor for safety. We heard plenty of wind, rain, and finally hail. This went on an hour and we went back up to sleep. This AM when we went out we expected to see dents all over the car. There were none, hew!! A man in the parking lot asked us if the car got wet overnight. I told him no, the seats were wet where the wind blew water thru the top/glass seal. He was worried, when he went to sleep water from the creek behind the motel (which I didn't know about) had risen to within a foot of our car. Cars in the parking lot did get water inside from the creek. Boy, did we dodge 2 BIG ones that night! We got out of there and drove on. The weather was beautiful and cool today. As we drove on thru Mo. and into Il. the water along the roadways was very high. In Mo. a railroad underpass was flooded so we detoured around that. Farther down the road water was washing over, we slowed down and went thru hanging close to the center highpoint. We made it but later noticed that water had come into the cockpit from somewhere as the rear carpets were wet. We crossed into Il. crossing the Mississippi River at Quincy, Il. What a nice town. There are beautiful older large homes downtown. All sorts of designs from craftsman to victorian. There must have been much commerce along the river early in the century (19th and 20th) to have supported houses like those. We found Hwy 104 out of Quincy and headed SE. After a while I noticed a scrubbing from my front brakes when I came to a stop. While getting gas a little south of Springfield, Il. Sherry got out to listen to see which wheel was the culprit. It was the left front wheel. I pulled the wheel and checked the caliper. There was no braking surface on the outside brake pad. It was scrubbing on the brake pad backing plate. I mean there was no trace of a pad there. Guess it separated and dropped out somewhere on the road. We had good brakes when we left home. I quickly called Moss and ordered pads for overnight delivery to a motel in Springfield. We got a room at that motel luckily and I'll install the pads in the AM. Will let you know how it turns out. Time for shut eye now so stay tuned for more adventure stories as we head home. George & Sherry Haywood Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 22:31:44 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:31:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: References: <4C4790F4.6030809@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <26F14275-B27A-4B20-A80C-249C27AC6DCB@gmail.com> I hope it is full of liquid before starting I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:24 PM, richard mayor wrote: > I usually start the engine. > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon > > > > >> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:29:40 -0400 >> From: rchaskell at earthlink.net >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Healeys] water pump >> >> Listers, >> >> What's the current wisdom regarding breaking-in a new water pump? >> Method? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bob >> 3000 MkI Registrar >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts > with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 > 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From haywoodone at hotmail.com Wed Jul 21 22:45:22 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:45:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Wed. Post Conclave Adventure Message-ID: Today started out with our brake pads getting there @11:30. Moss Motors came thru again in fine style. Their set up and system works great for situations just like this to keep us on the road. That's another thing I'll have in the boot from now on. I had the pads on by 12:30, buttoned up and tested. I did a mini Funkana in the motel parking lot bedding them in, cleaned up, packed up, ate lunch, and high tailed it by 1:30. We headed SE from Springfield,Il on Hwys 55, 104, 16, 32, 33, 130, down to 50 over to In. As we traveled S the terrain flattened but near the In line the rolling hills returned along with more trees. It is a very beautiful area to travel thru. The day was Hot/humid (93 deg) but we kept cooler with the top up and drinking cold pop. As we traveled thru In we back tracked over some of the same roads as when we came out. We came upon Loogootee, In, home of Bo-Mac's Drive-In. As we passed by I decided to whip in for dinner. It was kind of a fast braking hard Rt. turn onto their gravel parking lot (my new brakes and all). Well who would be sitting there under an umbrella eating dinner but the County Sheriff and his wife. I thought we were gonna get a lecture but he said "Nice car--what year is it?" We talked a little, then ordered our food. It was 8PM by then (we lost an hour when we crossed back into Eastern time) and the weather was changing to cooler temps with an angry sky moving in from the NW. I asked the Sheriff if there was a Hol Inn Express nearby-"yes about 28 mi off 50 E". We ate and ordered swirled ice cream cones for Sherry and me. The Sheriff left and we started a conversation with the owner and his wife. We told them we had been thru there about a week ago and stopped to have ice cream on a very hot day and that we had posted about their diner on the Healey list. They want to visit NC this fall to see The Biltmore House with its Christmas decorations up. Then the sky became very angry in the direction we were headed so we quickly left and checked into our motel room, beating the storm. We're doing laundry now (well Sherry is) and will call it a night soon. I'm having trouble getting these in under 3KB and I keep getting bounced-hope this makes it. George & Sherry Haywood _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From haywoodone at hotmail.com Wed Jul 21 22:53:28 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:53:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Test Message-ID: I'm having trouble w this motel's internet service _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From austin.healey at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 23:45:24 2010 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock [Healey]) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:45:24 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Big Healey Race Engine Question In-Reply-To: <7BC8E2A818354BAB955B7856437D3B93@FredsLaptop> References: <7BC8E2A818354BAB955B7856437D3B93@FredsLaptop> Message-ID: Hi Fred I run NGK EGV racing plugs Heat range depends on the cars useage, temperature, etc - but usually heatrange is 7 - 9 i.e NGK B8 EGV; NGK B85EGV etc http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/docs/tech/partnumberkey.pdf Mine is lower compression than yours, cast iron head, triple 45dcoe; 300 degree cam etc see http://www.myaustinhealey.com/dyno_sheet.html for specs. These plugs have been perfect for me. Best Chris On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Fred Crowley < fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com> wrote: > Folks, > > This is directed primarily to those who have a race prepped engine in their > car. > > I am looking for a replacement for the type of spark plugs that I have been > using for quite a while. The plugs I've been using are Splitfires SF6C. > These > plugs are now out of production. A bit disappointing as this particular > model > seems to be the correct heat range and have been working well. > > My engine (2963cc) runs approximately 12:1 compression, 240# cranking > pressure, 300 degree cam, cast iron head, and uses 110 Octane race fuel. > > Any suggestions for a replacement plug for these engine conditions? > > Cheers, > > Fred Crowley > Team Healey Texas > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 22 00:46:27 2010 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:46:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20100721233634.01fb4838@pop.att.yahoo.com> At over $1,000 USD for parts are the adjustable plates worth it? My car will be a nicely restored driving car, say 2500 mile plus or more per year. When answering this question keep in mind that I need grind off the old ones, weld in new ones, then repaint a newly painted frame! Bad planning! I know this, but I plan for a living and don't want to take my work home. :-) John '62 BT7 From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 22 00:56:08 2010 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:56:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] OD Cone clutch relining In-Reply-To: <3E5E7C710D524F0F87E776FCCBD82763@tm> References: <3E5E7C710D524F0F87E776FCCBD82763@tm> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20100721235006.01ff7c70@pop.att.yahoo.com> Tadeusz, Any brake shop capable of replacing brake shoes and contemporary clutch linings could replace your OD cone lining. However, they may not want too. John At 08:13 PM 7/21/2010 +0200, Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: >....OD cone clutch relining? >Preferably in UK... >_______________________________________________ >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jul 22 02:41:56 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:41:56 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <4C4790F4.6030809@earthlink.net> References: <4C4790F4.6030809@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4C480454.30304@chello.nl> A new or rebuild water pump needs bedding in. Often it will leak slightly for some time untill the seal surfaces have bedded in. Some say to use water only to speed up the process as coolant is supposedly providing to much lubrication, but I cannot see any advantage in this. Just use the proper coolant at all times. I never had any issues. Kees Oudesluijs NL Bob Haskell wrote: > Listers, > > What's the current wisdom regarding breaking-in a new water pump? Method? > > Cheers, > > Bob > 3000 MkI Registrar > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3019 - datum van uitgifte: 07/21/10 08:36:00 From austin.healey at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 04:07:17 2010 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:07:17 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20100721233634.01fb4838@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20100721233634.01fb4838@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00AC8240-EB8E-4CF5-A921-41FD8A386662@gmail.com> Are they worth it? In my opinion no. Measure your camber, measure your top shock arm length, the get top shock arms to give you the camber you want. Usually Wolseley. And install adjustable pins in the top arms for the final + - half a degree. At least that's how I did it. http://www.myaustinhealey.com/austin_healey_technical_articles.html Chris Sent from my iPhone On 22/07/2010, at 4:46 PM, john spaur wrote: > At over $1,000 USD for parts are the adjustable plates worth it? > My car will be a nicely restored driving car, say 2500 mile plus or > more per year. > When answering this question keep in mind that I need grind off the > old ones, weld in new ones, then repaint a newly painted frame! > > Bad planning! I know this, but I plan for a living and don't want to > take my work home. :-) > > John > '62 BT7 > ______________________ From gmandas at yahoo.com Thu Jul 22 04:10:24 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] water pump Message-ID: <958765.77962.qm@web56104.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Bob, Don't know where, but I read you needed to run it dry and break it in so the pump works better. That sounds a little scary. Also, my pump has a hole where the books shows a "lubrication plug". Am I supposed to squirt some greese in there? Greg Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:31 AM, I Erbs wrote: I hope it is full of liquid before starting I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:24 PM, richard mayor wrote: I usually start the engine. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:29:40 -0400 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] water pump Listers, What's the current wisdom regarding breaking-in a new water pump? Method? Cheers, Bob 3000 MkI Registrar _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From austin.healey at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 04:23:46 2010 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:23:46 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] OD Cone clutch relining In-Reply-To: <3E5E7C710D524F0F87E776FCCBD82763@tm> References: <3E5E7C710D524F0F87E776FCCBD82763@tm> Message-ID: I got mine from Denis Welch. They do an exchange system. Pay a deposit, and send them back your old one. i.e. You get the new one to do your rebuild before you pull your overdrive apart. Chris Sent from my iPhone On 22/07/2010, at 4:13 AM, Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know who does well OD cone clutch relining? > > Preferably in UK... :-) > > Best, Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com From rchaskell at earthlink.net Thu Jul 22 04:26:09 2010 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:26:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <26F14275-B27A-4B20-A80C-249C27AC6DCB@gmail.com> References: <4C4790F4.6030809@earthlink.net> <26F14275-B27A-4B20-A80C-249C27AC6DCB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C481CC1.9000208@earthlink.net> It's my understanding that back in the day the water pump seal had to be bedded in before installing the pump on the car. The pulley/shaft was spun (say using the wire wheel on a bench grinder) dry for some period of time. Just wondered if that should still be done and, if so, how. Bob Haskell 3000 MkI registrar I Erbs wrote: > I hope it is full of liquid before starting > > I Erbs > Sent from my iPod > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:24 PM, richard mayor > wrote: > >> I usually start the engine. >> >> Richard Mayor >> BN7L-466 Vintage Racer >> Portland, Oregon >> >> >> >> >>> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:29:40 -0400 >>> From: rchaskell at earthlink.net >>> To: healeys at autox.team.net >>> Subject: [Healeys] water pump >>> >>> Listers, >>> >>> What's the current wisdom regarding breaking-in a new water pump? >>> Method? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Bob >>> 3000 MkI Registrar >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with >> Hotmail. >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 >> >> 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 04:57:46 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:57:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20100721233634.01fb4838@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20100721233634.01fb4838@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <13C70B46-AE46-46D1-8265-0A62322926BF@gmail.com> Lol I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jul 21, 2010, at 11:46 PM, john spaur wrote: > At over $1,000 USD for parts are the adjustable plates worth it? > My car will be a nicely restored driving car, say 2500 mile plus or > more per year. > When answering this question keep in mind that I need grind off the > old ones, weld in new ones, then repaint a newly painted frame! > > Bad planning! I know this, but I plan for a living and don't want to > take my work home. :-) > > John > '62 BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From Editorgary at aol.com Thu Jul 22 05:39:00 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:39:00 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Didn't know they made travelers like the Haywoods anymore Message-ID: <433aa.503a6f85.397987d4@aol.com> People often talk about how they don't make car like our Healeys any more, but I'd like to say that there are very few travelers like George and Sherry Haywood being made anymore either. Huge long distances between specific engagements, and they still elect to drive a Healey rather than flying. Rain, storms, tornados, floods, and pauses to replace brake pads, and they're still giving us a rolling travelogue of the geography, architecture, and economy (past and present) of the region they're traveling through. I'm thoroughly enjoying the vicarious experience, but my respect for George -- and his wife, who is putting up with all of this -- grows by leaps and bounds with each day's posting. As they might say on Facebook, you folks rock! Gary Anderson From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Thu Jul 22 06:28:25 2010 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:28:25 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] OD Cone clutch relining In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1D098A1E504D4B7CB9AD9F7640676ED1@tm> Hello all and many thanks for the advice: With your help I found: Overdrive Repair Services http://www.overdrive-repairs.co.uk OD Spares http://www.odspares.com Klassik Transmissions http://www.klassiktrans.co.uk/ Hardy Engineering http://www.hardyengineering.co.uk/ Prices are roughly same, I went for OD Spares, as they did not want my clutch up front... Many thanks for help! Tadek -----Original Message----- From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:47 PM To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD Cone clutch relining Tadek - I have had very good work from Klassik transmission and their prices are very fair. Service is excellent. http://www.klassiktrans.co.uk/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/klassik?opendocument&par t=3 Alan On 7/21/10, Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know who does well OD cone clutch relining? > > Preferably in UK... :-) > > Best, Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From bighealey at charter.net Thu Jul 22 06:51:00 2010 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:51:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates In-Reply-To: <13C70B46-AE46-46D1-8265-0A62322926BF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <806964AE4BFC40E4B69B757050A7E578@TRACY> Consider offset trunion bushings to get a bit more negative camber. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:58 AM To: john spaur Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates Lol I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jul 21, 2010, at 11:46 PM, john spaur wrote: > At over $1,000 USD for parts are the adjustable plates worth it? > My car will be a nicely restored driving car, say 2500 mile plus or > more per year. > When answering this question keep in mind that I need grind off the > old ones, weld in new ones, then repaint a newly painted frame! > > Bad planning! I know this, but I plan for a living and don't want to > take my work home. :-) > > John > '62 BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Jul 22 07:24:41 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 9:24:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Didn't know they made travelers like the Haywoods anymore In-Reply-To: <433aa.503a6f85.397987d4@aol.com> Message-ID: <20100722092441.ND0N5.53537.root@pamxwww01-z01> Yep---me also. I enjoy reading their travel adventures. tom ---- Editorgary at aol.com wrote: ============= People often talk about how they don't make car like our Healeys any more, but I'd like to say that there are very few travelers like George and Sherry Haywood being made anymore either. Huge long distances between specific engagements, and they still elect to drive a Healey rather than flying. Rain, storms, tornados, floods, and pauses to replace brake pads, and they're still giving us a rolling travelogue of the geography, architecture, and economy (past and present) of the region they're traveling through. I'm thoroughly enjoying the vicarious experience, but my respect for George -- and his wife, who is putting up with all of this -- grows by leaps and bounds with each day's posting. As they might say on Facebook, you folks rock! Gary Anderson _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 22 07:34:27 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:34:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20100721233634.01fb4838@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20100721233634.01fb4838@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C4848E3.8050309@comcast.net> >$1,000??? Moss lists them for $539.95 (part# 856-115), and you can probably get them for less straight from Kilmartin. We put these on our 100M because we had serious negative camber problems (never figured out why--chassis was straight). These are built slanted down front to back, to better accommodate the Healey's weird way of making a caster angle (pull the front A-arm in further than the back). Unfortunately, Kilmartin built some incorrectly--Greg K. told me later--and the slant was backward; i.e. the mounts for the bumper pad were on the backside of the shock mounts. This drove us nuts--we finally set the caster right by grinding down the back--which should have been the front--and welding a plate to the front to raise it. In hindsight, we should have just installed them the way they were--it doesn't matter were the bumper is--but we were trying to be 'correct.' Installation is tricky--you have to get them in the right spot for correct caster (camber is less critical, of course). We did this on a bare frame making careful angle measurements against a straight rod positioned at the same angle the A-arms would mount to the chassis (or, just put them in the same place as the old ones and hope for the best). Then, you have to get them welded up (unless you're and accomplished welder best to have a pro do it). All that said, it's great to be able to dial in whatever camber angle you want (my father, an 'old time' mechanic, still can't believe Healeys didn't have any camber adjustment). Yes, we 'lose points' on originality but we don't plan to have the car judged (we did build to concours standards as much as possible). bs john spaur wrote: > At over $1,000 USD for parts are the adjustable plates worth it? > My car will be a nicely restored driving car, say 2500 mile plus or > more per year. > When answering this question keep in mind that I need grind off the > old ones, weld in new ones, then repaint a newly painted frame! > > Bad planning! I know this, but I plan for a living and don't want to > take my work home. :-) > > John > '62 BT7 > > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 22 07:40:01 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:40:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Didn't know they made travelers like the Haywoods anymore In-Reply-To: <433aa.503a6f85.397987d4@aol.com> References: <433aa.503a6f85.397987d4@aol.com> Message-ID: <4C484A31.6080603@comcast.net> In my best Dennis Hopper accent: "It's all about the journey, man." bs Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > People often talk about how they don't make car like our Healeys any more, > but I'd like to say that there are very few travelers like George and Sherry > Haywood being made anymore either. Huge long distances between specific > engagements, and they still elect to drive a Healey rather than flying. Rain, > storms, tornados, floods, and pauses to replace brake pads, and they're still > giving us a rolling travelogue of the geography, architecture, and economy > (past and present) of the region they're traveling through. > I'm thoroughly enjoying the vicarious experience, but my respect for George > -- and his wife, who is putting up with all of this -- grows by leaps and > bounds with each day's posting. As they might say on Facebook, you folks > rock! > > Gary Anderson > _______________________________________________ > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bertvanbrande at yahoo.com Thu Jul 22 08:51:03 2010 From: bertvanbrande at yahoo.com (Bert Van Brande) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20100721233634.01fb4838@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <115366.80233.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Tom's import has plates that slide in the existing plates. Only one side has to be cut open and the bolts removed. I have no experience with these but this seems to be the least invasive if the offset bushings are not enough. Price is a fraction of what you quote. Anybody has real world experience with these? Bert From britishcars at shaw.ca Thu Jul 22 09:07:27 2010 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:07:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20100721233634.01fb4838@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20100721233634.01fb4838@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002101cb29af$997f3f20$cc7dbd60$@ca> I put the Cape International adjustable trunion bushes in my car....changed camber by about 2 degrees to give a slightly negative camber. Like the improvement and would not want to do more than that....too hard to drive/steer on road going. Whole thing takes about 2 hours. Paul -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john spaur Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:46 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates At over $1,000 USD for parts are the adjustable plates worth it? My car will be a nicely restored driving car, say 2500 mile plus or more per year. When answering this question keep in mind that I need grind off the old ones, weld in new ones, then repaint a newly painted frame! Bad planning! I know this, but I plan for a living and don't want to take my work home. :-) John '62 BT7 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/britishcars at shaw.ca From dan at warner-associates.com Thu Jul 22 10:25:31 2010 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:25:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <958765.77962.qm@web56104.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0F2595C7083F45FB96580F63C6318884@DANSTROM> Greg: Yes but when you do grease the pump through the hole make sure you do not over do the amount or you will blow out the seal to your pump when you replace the plug. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Mandas Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:10 AM To: Healey Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pump Bob, Don't know where, but I read you needed to run it dry and break it in so the pump works better. That sounds a little scary. Also, my pump has a hole where the books shows a "lubrication plug". Am I supposed to squirt some greese in there? Greg Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:31 AM, I Erbs wrote: I hope it is full of liquid before starting I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:24 PM, richard mayor wrote: I usually start the engine. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:29:40 -0400 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] water pump Listers, What's the current wisdom regarding breaking-in a new water pump? Method? Cheers, Bob 3000 MkI Registrar _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID283 2 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dan at warner-associates.com From ruvino at ripnet.com Thu Jul 22 10:29:51 2010 From: ruvino at ripnet.com (Dr. C. Rubino) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:29:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] kumo tires Message-ID: I know there are several of you running these tires. What model and what is you opinion as I need a new set of tires. Thanks Carl BN-4(L) From hubrick at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 11:17:45 2010 From: hubrick at gmail.com (Rick Huber) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:17:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Need BJ8 Parts Message-ID: Hi Everybody, I'm closing in on completing the restoration of my 64 BJ8 Phase I, but am missing a few parts. One I can't buy new, and the others I'd prefer original parts instead of reproductions. 1. Driver's side vent window frame - the large piece with the long leg that sticks down into the door. Mine is cracked, and it looks like it can't be repaired. I tried having it brazed yesterday, but the brass brazing rod won't stick permanently to the window frame. Hoping somebody has a spare that they're willing to part with. Alternatively, if anybody has an idea on repairing it, that would be even better. 2. Battery cut off switch and bracket. I bought the car in boxes, and these weren't in the boxes. I'd buy them new, but I've had bad luck with many reproduction parts. Cheers, Rick Huber From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 22 11:56:31 2010 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:56:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] kumo tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am running Kumho's on my 89 Turbo Porsche (street and track, same tire) and my Lexus LS430 without issues. I am pleased with them. I have Vredenstein's on my BN7 Healey and am happy with them (185x 15's). While they are tubeless, I have tubes in them for safety and wirewheel issue prevention. Richard of KY BN7 #440 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Jul 22 12:03:03 2010 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:03:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Didn't know they made travelers like the Haywoods anymore In-Reply-To: <433aa.503a6f85.397987d4@aol.com> References: <433aa.503a6f85.397987d4@aol.com> Message-ID: <007f01cb29c8$21404810$63c0d830$@rr.com> George and Sherry have been my traveling companions to the two previous Conclaves, in San Diego in '08 and last year in Kingston, Ontario. Unfortunately, I couldn't make the trip with them this year to Galena. Not only are they among those rare people who thoroughly enjoy the adventure of long-distance traveling by car, especially by Healey, but they are also wonderful people and personal friends away from the Healey world. I'm sorry all of you can't know them the same way. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:39 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Didn't know they made travelers like the Haywoods anymore People often talk about how they don't make car like our Healeys any more, but I'd like to say that there are very few travelers like George and Sherry Haywood being made anymore either. Huge long distances between specific engagements, and they still elect to drive a Healey rather than flying. Rain, storms, tornados, floods, and pauses to replace brake pads, and they're still giving us a rolling travelogue of the geography, architecture, and economy (past and present) of the region they're traveling through. I'm thoroughly enjoying the vicarious experience, but my respect for George -- and his wife, who is putting up with all of this -- grows by leaps and bounds with each day's posting. As they might say on Facebook, you folks rock! Gary Anderson From gardner5 at comcast.net Thu Jul 22 12:04:10 2010 From: gardner5 at comcast.net (gardner5 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Oil in the body of Distributor Message-ID: <1546619914.423130.1279821850911.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I'm getting oil into the body of the distributor.B It leaks out before getting to the pertronix.B Joel BN2 From fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 22 12:12:14 2010 From: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com (Don Day) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] off by 3/16" Message-ID: <564884.61831.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'm at the point on my frame off rebuild of my 67-BJ8 that I have the motor and trans in and I'm now installing the carbs.I installed the throttle shaft into the fire wall and then into the throttle bracket that mounts to the intake manifold.My problem is the holes don't line up with holes in the intake manifold,there off by 3/16".If the motor could move forward 3/16" they would line up.What am I not seeing? Thanks List Don From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Jul 22 12:21:30 2010 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:21:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] kumo tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008301cb29ca$b53dcd10$1fb96730$@rr.com> Carl, I have had Kumho Power Star 758 165/80R15 tires on my BJ8 since June 2007. They now have 20K miles on them. I bought them from Hendrix Wire Wheel. I like the way they look on the car, and they are wearing well. No problems with them so far. Unfortunately, Hendrix says Kumho isn't making the tires in that size anymore, or at least he can't get them. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dr. C. Rubino Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:30 PM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] kumo tires I know there are several of you running these tires. What model and what is you opinion as I need a new set of tires. Thanks Carl BN-4(L) From rnbmail at yahoo.com Thu Jul 22 12:23:00 2010 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] kumo tires In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <829601.52590.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dr.C. I do not run them on my Healey [too late now as I have Vredestein] I just put them/KR21 on my 2002 Jeep SUV. Very impressed so far - price is right and very quiet over concrete surfaces and has 85K mile warranty. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Dr. C. Rubino wrote: > From: Dr. C. Rubino > Subject: [Healeys] kumo tires > To: "healeylist" > Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 9:29 AM > I know there are several of you > running these tires. What model and what is > you opinion as I need a new set of tires. > > Thanks > > Carl > BN-4(L) > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rnbmail at yahoo.com From gardner5 at comcast.net Thu Jul 22 12:55:43 2010 From: gardner5 at comcast.net (gardner5 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Oil in distributor body In-Reply-To: <1819350578.425993.1279824881863.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <44636680.426043.1279824943592.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Still sorting things out with my BN2.B I'm getting oil up into the distributor body.B What am I missing here?B (The Distributor is a reconditioned unit from AHspares with a Pertronix.) Joel BN2 From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 13:03:39 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:03:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Larry Varley wants to be friends on Facebook. In-Reply-To: <20100718150603.4JO2R.154887.root@pamxwww06-z01> References: <20100718150603.4JO2R.154887.root@pamxwww06-z01> Message-ID: You can set privacy settings to limit who,whst can see you or detsild On Jul 18, 2010 12:33 PM, "Tom Felts" wrote: As long as you are "in" Facebook, does it matter if you have a profile or not? I think the fact that you are a member of it allows someone to ask you to be their friend--profile listed or not----right/wrong?? ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: ============= Why not delete your profile to avoid future such issues? Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > Date... Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/d... From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Jul 22 13:14:09 2010 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:14:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] kumo tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The tire subject comes up a lot, and still people don't post the right info to make informed decisions about tires. Statements like "this brand of tire fills the wheel well better so it looks better" means nothing without the size of tire. "I have 185s on my car and they're great" means nothing without the whole tire measurement. A 185/60 is whole lot different than a 185/70 Wilko San Diego From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 22 13:14:15 2010 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:14:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Need BJ8 Parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We have the vent assembly available used. The battery switch we have the bracket new, the switch we have some used ones that would need rebuilt, also have them available new. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Rick Huber wrote: > Hi Everybody, > I'm closing in on completing the restoration of my 64 BJ8 Phase I, > but am > missing a few parts. One I can't buy new, and the others I'd prefer > original parts instead of reproductions. > > 1. Driver's side vent window frame - the large piece with the long > leg that > sticks down into the door. Mine is cracked, and it looks like it > can't be > repaired. I tried having it brazed yesterday, but the brass brazing > rod > won't stick permanently to the window frame. Hoping somebody has > a spare > that they're willing to part with. Alternatively, if anybody has an > idea on > repairing it, that would be even better. > 2. Battery cut off switch and bracket. I bought the car in boxes, > and > these weren't in the boxes. I'd buy them new, but I've had bad luck > with > many reproduction parts. > > Cheers, > Rick Huber > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ > healeydoc at sbcglobal.net From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Thu Jul 22 15:01:04 2010 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:01:04 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] kumo tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: G'day Carl I have 185R15 Power Star 658s on one car (before those the previous model 656s) and Solus KH15 185/65R15 on the other. I've found both good wear and ride-wise. The 658s have a more traditional look being 80 aspect ratio, but the KH15s have a very "flat" tread area and feel really secure on the V6 car. Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz BN1 Ward Spl coupe BN1 Holden V6 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. C. Rubino" Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 2:29 AM To: "healeylist" Subject: [Healeys] kumo tires > I know there are several of you running these tires. What model and what > is > you opinion as I need a new set of tires. > > Thanks > > Carl > BN-4(L) > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/greylinn at ozemail.com.au From warthodson at aol.com Thu Jul 22 15:01:56 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:01:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] off by 3/16" In-Reply-To: <564884.61831.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <564884.61831.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CCF7F841200C9A-F90-6A3C@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com> I assume the engine is attached to the motor mounts & they are attached to the frame. If so, I don't think you have much freedom to move the engine fore & aft, but you can try adjusting the transmission drag link to see if this helps. This happened to a friend & we attributed the problem to an accumulation of tolerances because he has a new (reproduction frame). In his case the motor mounts on the fame & the fire wall were closer together than original by about 3/16". Do you have a new frame? Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Don Day To: healey list Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 1:12 pm Subject: [Healeys] off by 3/16" I'm at the point on my frame off rebuild of my 67-BJ8 that I have the motor and rans in and I'm now installing the carbs.I installed the throttle shaft into he fire wall and then into the throttle bracket that mounts to the intake anifold.My problem is the holes don't line up with holes in the intake anifold,there off by 3/16".If the motor could move forward 3/16" they would ine up.What am I seeing? Thanks List Don ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jul 22 15:10:00 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:10:00 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Oil in distributor body In-Reply-To: <44636680.426043.1279824943592.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <44636680.426043.1279824943592.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C48B3A8.4030505@chello.nl> These distributors may have a seal just in the bottom of the "cup", below the weights. During assembly, this oil seal can get easily damaged by the hole in the drive shaft for the pin to hold the drive dog.. Another problem with reconditioned units is the spiral grove that may be present in the distributor shaft to pump back the oil passing. If the original distributor had a shaft with a spiral grove, this can have been replaced with a shaft without grove or a spiral grove wound the wrong way, pumping up oil. Kees Oudesluijs NL gardner5 at comcast.net wrote: > Still sorting things out with my BN2.B I'm getting oil up into the > distributor body.B What am I missing here?B (The Distributor is a > reconditioned unit from AHspares with a Pertronix.) > > > > Joel > > BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3020 - datum van uitgifte: 07/21/10 20:36:00 From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Thu Jul 22 17:45:52 2010 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:45:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] off by 3/16" In-Reply-To: <564884.61831.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <564884.61831.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1BCAC983F510407688EA9EC75FF08576@LeonardPCPC> Don: I think you may NOT be seeing a bracket that may be missing. If you have a Moss catalog, refer to the Engine Controls BJ7, BJ8. Part 121, bracket, with part 79, relay shaft bearing inserted, is mounted on the firewall. Part 73, spindle (relay shaft, throttle shaft?), slides into 79 which you say you have done. On top of the manifold, bracket 105 fastens with two bolts with a raised portion to the rear. The nylon bracket is sandwiched between 105 and 81 (choke cable holder) and secured by bolt to the threaded hole in the raised portion of 105 after sliding the bearing over the throttle shaft. These are all independent pieces without any solid connection to the throttle shaft or relationship to the position of the engine. Moss shows two circlips, 74, which would appear to keep the shaft from moving forward and backward. In the case of my '67 BJ8, there is one circlip in the end of the shaft to prevent rearward movement. There is a spacer, about an inch long, next to the nylon bracket and then the lever, 75, clamped to the throttle rod which prevents forward movement. There is about 3/16 inch play, fore and aft, in my throttle shaft and this could be changed by moving the lever or changing the spacer. I do not see how moving the motor would make any difference unless I am not seeing your problem correctly. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Day" To: "healey list" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: [Healeys] off by 3/16" > I'm at the point on my frame off rebuild of my 67-BJ8 that I have the > motor and trans in and I'm now installing the carbs.I installed the > throttle shaft into the fire wall and then into the throttle bracket that > mounts to the intake manifold.My problem is the holes don't line up with > holes in the intake manifold,there off by 3/16".If the motor could move > forward 3/16" they would line up.What am I not seeing? > > Thanks List > Don > _______________________________________________ From gmandas at yahoo.com Thu Jul 22 17:47:33 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] water pump Message-ID: <154479.8097.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Dan, Sorry, I should have been more explicit. My water pump doesn't have a plug. It's got a hole. It's on top and rather ragged looking, almost as if it were a flaw in the casting. I can see into the pump between the pump and pulley bearings. I originally thought it was bad and ordered a replacement and there's that same hole. I guess I should put some greese in it. The whol;e is on top so I guess it'll stay. Greg --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Dan Stromquist wrote: From: Dan Stromquist Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pump To: "'Greg Mandas'" , "'Healey list'" Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 12:25 PM Greg: Yes but when you do grease the pump through the hole make sure you do not over do the amount or you will blow out the seal to your pump when you replace the plug. Dan From haywoodone at hotmail.com Thu Jul 22 19:39:22 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:39:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Thurs. Post Conclave Adventure Message-ID: This AM turned out nice and cool for top down driving. We traveled on Hwy 50 E from Bedford, In. along the hills of the SE part of the state toward Dillsboro. I said this before but it needs repeating; This part of In. is quite nice with the rolling hills, manicured farms, and small quaint towns. Everything is neat and clean--just feels fresh traveling thru here. On the advice from Conclave goer Roy Bowman we drove In. 262 from Dillsboro to Rising Sun. This is a twisty road thru the country following a small river. It could be challenging for a Healey at high speeds but we didn't push too hard since we're still pretty far from home and by ourselves. We thought that road was great, then we hit 156 out of Rising Sun that cruises along the Ohio for many miles. Now this was a treat also. We could just picture what it was like during the river boat times of past centuries; farmers bringing there produce down to the river in season, artists and craftsmen setting up stands for the passengers on the boats to see and pull over for their purchases. Those river boats had ramps that could drop, virtually stopping to debark anywhere desired. Each turn offered different scenery-there were marinas, corn fields, homes, a coal fired power plant, many barges hauling in the coal with the apparatus that unloaded & conveyed the coal up to the plant, camping grounds for RVs, just all sorts of uses but things didn't appear crowded either. We crossed the Ohio into Ky someplace around Carrolton,Ky and onto Hwy 227 S. This was a treat that just keeps on coming. The hills of the Ohio Valley are just gorgeous, now we're in horse country again. These farms are huge with perfectly manicured lawns separate from the perfectly manicured paddocks. I'll start a new page here to get it in under the 3 Kb limit. Stay tuned. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Thu Jul 22 20:03:26 2010 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:03:26 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <26F14275-B27A-4B20-A80C-249C27AC6DCB@gmail.com> References: <4C4790F4.6030809@earthlink.net> , <26F14275-B27A-4B20-A80C-249C27AC6DCB@gmail.com> Message-ID: Absolutely! The engine should be full of distilled water and with an appropriate amount of anti-freeze. Anti-freeze is a lubricant for the water pump. Running a water pump dry strikes me as a good way to destroy the water pump seal before it even gets bolted onto the engine. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > To: mayorrichard at hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pump > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:31:44 -0700 > CC: rchaskell at earthlink.net; healeys at autox.team.net > > I hope it is full of liquid before starting > > I Erbs > Sent from my iPod > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:24 PM, richard mayor > wrote: > > > I usually start the engine. > > > > Richard Mayor > > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > > Portland, Oregon > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:29:40 -0400 > >> From: rchaskell at earthlink.net > >> To: healeys at autox.team.net > >> Subject: [Healeys] water pump > >> > >> Listers, > >> > >> What's the current wisdom regarding breaking-in a new water pump? > >> Method? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Bob > >> 3000 MkI Registrar > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The New Busy is not the too busy. 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Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 22 20:07:35 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:07:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <154479.8097.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <154479.8097.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C48F967.3020104@comcast.net> Greg, The hole is an inspection port (really). Your water pump in all probability has sealed bearings--no greasing required. bs Greg Mandas wrote: > Dan, > > Sorry, I should have been more explicit. My water pump doesn't have a plug. It's got a hole. It's on top and rather ragged looking, almost as if it were a flaw in the casting. I can see into the pump between the pump and pulley bearings. > > I originally thought it was bad and ordered a replacement and there's that same hole. > > I guess I should put some greese in it. The whol;e is on top so I guess it'll stay. > > Greg > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Thu Jul 22 19:58:21 2010 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:58:21 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Big Healey Race Engine Question In-Reply-To: <7BC8E2A818354BAB955B7856437D3B93@FredsLaptop> References: <7BC8E2A818354BAB955B7856437D3B93@FredsLaptop> Message-ID: Greetings Fred, I use NGK R5672A-8, stock #7173, spark plugs. These are the race version of the BP8ES. You are running a bit higher compression than I do so you may want to consider the next cooler heat range. However, you are also running a bigger cam than I do and, therefore, your dynamic compression is lower and may be quite similar to my engine. I have been very satisfied with NGKs. I gap my plugs at .028 but I use a period correct Mallory dual-point distributor with a Lucas Sports Coil. If I ran an electronic ignition with a big coil I would gap them much bigger. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Team Healey, Portland, Oregon > From: fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:15:08 -0500 > Subject: [Healeys] Big Healey Race Engine Question > > Folks, > > This is directed primarily to those who have a race prepped engine in their > car. > > I am looking for a replacement for the type of spark plugs that I have been > using for quite a while. The plugs I've been using are Splitfires SF6C. These > plugs are now out of production. A bit disappointing as this particular model > seems to be the correct heat range and have been working well. > > My engine (2963cc) runs approximately 12:1 compression, 240# cranking > pressure, 300 degree cam, cast iron head, and uses 110 Octane race fuel. > > Any suggestions for a replacement plug for these engine conditions? > > Cheers, > > Fred Crowley > Team Healey Texas > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Jul 22 20:22:33 2010 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:22:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <154479.8097.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <154479.8097.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000301cb2a0d$e9335cf0$bb9a16d0$@rr.com> Greg, my water pump has a similar hole. It does look like the casting is broken out and ragged. I've seen others like that and I've often wondered why it was made that way. My pump has been pumping for years with that hole and nothing has ever come out of it. No grease is necessary. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Mandas Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:48 PM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pump Dan, Sorry, I should have been more explicit. My water pump doesn't have a plug. It's got a hole. It's on top and rather ragged looking, almost as if it were a flaw in the casting. I can see into the pump between the pump and pulley bearings. I originally thought it was bad and ordered a replacement and there's that same hole. I guess I should put some greese in it. The whol;e is on top so I guess it'll stay. Greg From haywoodone at hotmail.com Thu Jul 22 20:27:01 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:27:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Thurs. Post Conclave Ad. Pt. 2 Message-ID: Things changed here in Ky. The fencing is mostly wooden and completely surrounds the farms. Fences divide the areas of the farms into special sectors, some for agriculture, some for pasture, others for separating horses for different reasons. It looks like mazes with paths leading to who knows where. The thing that ties all the farms together is that the fencing is all stained/painted a dark brown almost black color. All the barns are colored the same way. They are very large with vertical boards from ground to soffit. The boards have spaces between them and as you pass by you can see light coming thru from the other side of the barn. I presume this is to keep the hay from molding by the continuous ventilation of the loose walled construction. The ends many barns have quilt art painted just as those in Iowa had. The farm houses that go with these estates can be quite massive. Some are obviously established farms of many decades as noted by their Ky field stone walls built along the roadway with grand entrance gates. Then there are the newbie's that have a more modern look about them-still very grand in nature but not as mature. Unfortunately where there is boom there is bust and many of these estates have for sale signs posted. As we drive along we see people on the front porches of city homes, farmers on tractors and lawn mowers, and others just going about their dailey activities. We observe them as spectacles and they us in our Healey with our hair blowing back, then we both wave to one another and smile. There's not much more you can say about that, eh. We journeyed down In. 227, to Georgetown, 460 over to Paris and Mt Sterling, then I-64 back to Winchester for the night. Traveling only about 250 mi. today doesn't seem far but we'll remember it as being a good day. Take Care, George & Sherry Haywood Bet there are some good deals to be found if you're in the market. All-in-all this day has been a beautiful travel day _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From bighealey at astound.net Thu Jul 22 20:41:34 2010 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:41:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Reply kumo tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <168643539F8D40BD81B157E37CB2D0B5@JohnSoderling> Doc, I run Kumho's on both my Austin Healey 100-six and my SUV. Great tires and very satisfied. On my Healey I run 165/80-15 Kumho Power Star 758, T speed rating. Best tire I've ever had on my Healey - better than two types (P-2 & P-20) of Dunlop's I previously used. Vrooom vrooom, John -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. C. Rubino" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:29 AM To: "healeylist" Subject: [Healeys] kumo tires > I know there are several of you running these tires. What model and what > is > you opinion as I need a new set of tires. > > Thanks > > Carl > BN-4(L) > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at astound.net From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 22:00:52 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:00:52 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Oil in distributor body In-Reply-To: <44636680.426043.1279824943592.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1819350578.425993.1279824881863.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <44636680.426043.1279824943592.JavaMail.root@sz0158a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Joel - I have always had very bad experience with AH Spares rebuild services. I don't know who they use, but they don't know their *** from a hole in the wall. You can send it back, but it'll come back just the same. I once went back and forth with them three times on my BN1 tach, they didn't have a clue. Nice people but I'd ask them for a refund and send it to Jeff at Advanced Distributors. Alan On 7/22/10, gardner5 at comcast.net wrote: > Still sorting things out with my BN2.B I'm getting oil up into the > distributor body.B What am I missing here?B (The Distributor is a > reconditioned unit from AHspares with a Pertronix.) > > > > Joel > > BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From rnbmail at yahoo.com Fri Jul 23 00:12:53 2010 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] kumo tires In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <986935.46383.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Agree - and add the while size/width [4 1/2 or 5 inch] - makes a difference to how the tire looks. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > From: Eric (Rick) Wilkins > Subject: Re: [Healeys] kumo tires > To: > Cc: "Webmeister" > Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 12:14 PM > The tire subject comes up a lot, and > still people don't post the right info to make informed > decisions about tires. > > Statements like "this brand of tire fills the wheel well > better so it looks better" means nothing without the size of > tire. > > "I have 185s on my car and they're great" means nothing > without the whole tire measurement. A 185/60 is whole lot > different than a 185/70 > > Wilko > San Diego > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rnbmail at yahoo.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Jul 23 00:40:58 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:40:58 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <000301cb2a0d$e9335cf0$bb9a16d0$@rr.com> References: <154479.8097.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <000301cb2a0d$e9335cf0$bb9a16d0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4C49397A.5080907@chello.nl> The hole is probably originally intended to be tapped and fitted with a grease nipple for servicing the bearings. However nowadays sealed greased for life bearings are used. Kees Oudesluijs BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Greg, my water pump has a similar hole. It does look like the casting is > broken out and ragged. I've seen others like that and I've often wondered > why it was made that way. My pump has been pumping for years with that hole > and nothing has ever come out of it. No grease is necessary. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 23 02:17:01 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:17:01 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <4C49397A.5080907@chello.nl> References: <154479.8097.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <000301cb2a0d$e9335cf0$bb9a16d0$@rr.com> <4C49397A.5080907@chello.nl> Message-ID: No, that hole is just a breather hole... Its oval in shape. On 7/23/10, Oudesluys wrote: > The hole is probably originally intended to be tapped and fitted with a > grease nipple for servicing the bearings. However nowadays sealed > greased for life bearings are used. > Kees Oudesluijs > > > BJ8 Healeys wrote: >> Greg, my water pump has a similar hole. It does look like the casting is >> broken out and ragged. I've seen others like that and I've often wondered >> why it was made that way. My pump has been pumping for years with that >> hole >> and nothing has ever come out of it. No grease is necessary. >> >> Steve Byers >> HBJ8L/36666 >> BJ8 Registry >> Havelock, NC USA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From gmandas at yahoo.com Fri Jul 23 02:38:51 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] water pump Message-ID: <804639.54181.qm@web56103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Catch it before I'm left stranded. That makes sense. I'll start looking more often. Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: Greg, The hole is an inspection port (really). Your water pump in all probability has sealed bearings--no greasing required. bs Greg Mandas wrote: Dan, Sorry, I should have been more explicit. My water pump doesn't have a plug. It's got a hole. It's on top and rather ragged looking, almost as if it were a flaw in the casting. I can see into the pump between the pump and pulley bearings. I originally thought it was bad and ordered a replacement and there's that same hole. I guess I should put some greese in it. The whol;e is on top so I guess it'll stay. Greg -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From gmandas at yahoo.com Fri Jul 23 03:08:16 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Thurs. Post Conclave Ad. Pt. 2 Message-ID: <366751.14096.qm@web56107.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I grew up in the Ohio valley. Your passages are stirring up old memories. Thank you. Greg Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:27 PM, George Haywood wrote: Things changed here in Ky. The fencing is mostly wooden and completely surrounds the farms. Fences divide the areas of the farms into special sectors, some for agriculture, some for pasture, others for separating horses for different reasons. It looks like mazes with paths leading to who knows where. The thing that ties all the farms together is that the fencing is all stained/painted a dark brown almost black color. All the barns are colored the same way. They are very large with vertical boards from ground to soffit. The boards have spaces between them and as you pass by you can see light coming thru from the other side of the barn. I presume this is to keep the hay from molding by the continuous ventilation of the loose walled construction. The ends many barns have quilt art painted just as those in Iowa had. The farm houses that go with these estates can be quite massive. Some are obviously established farms of many decades as noted by their Ky field stone walls built along the roadway with grand entrance gates. Then there are the newbie's that have a more modern look about them-still very grand in nature but not as mature. Unfortunately where there is boom there is bust and many of these estates have for sale signs posted. As we drive along we see people on the front porches of city homes, farmers on tractors and lawn mowers, and others just going about their dailey activities. We observe them as spectacles and they us in our Healey with our hair blowing back, then we both wave to one another and smile. There's not much more you can say about that, eh. We journeyed down In. 227, to Georgetown, 460 over to Paris and Mt Sterling, then I-64 back to Winchester for the night. Traveling only about 250 mi. today doesn't seem far but we'll remember it as being a good day. Take Care, George & Sherry Haywood Bet there are some good deals to be found if you're in the market. All-in-all this day has been a beautiful travel day _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From medlabinc at msn.com Fri Jul 23 08:49:14 2010 From: medlabinc at msn.com (Dick Matson) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:49:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: FW: Post Conclave Adventure Part 2 Message-ID: Thanks for the interesting reports. Speaking of fuel for our cars, I once attended a slide show - a while back now. An adventurer had just completed an around the world flight in his 2-place Cessna 140. He was glad to have survived and was telling his story. While a little off subject for this list one of the memorable parts of his story for me was the locating of fuel for his airplane as he went along. Some places he landed were what you would call off-field. On trails even. In the outback. No gas pumps around. That's for sure. While us vintage aircraft types here in the US were mourning the loss of 80-87 and wondering what in the world we're going to do now about fuel for our old airplanes, this adventurer was continuing around the world by asking locals wherever he landed for whatever they could find that would pour and ignite. I remember the pictures, 1, 3, 6, 10 gallon tins pouring into his tank. Amazing to me he continued on his way just fine to a next landing somewhere where the same thing might happen all over again. The Continental O-200 engine in his Cessna 140 maybe lasted no longer than the trip. I don't know. But he did make the trip successfully. Meanwhile back here in the US we all continued to fly our old vintage airplanes around just fine with 100 Low-Lead. Ever since his slide show I haven't given so much thought anymore either to what I put from the pump into the tank of my Austin Healey. Dick Matson / Bj8 ----- Original Message ----- From: George Haywood To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:05 PM Subject: [Healeys] FW: Post Conclave Adventure Part 2 While getting gas a little south of Springfield, Il . . . . George & Sherry Haywood From lnjn36 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 23 09:26:21 2010 From: lnjn36 at sbcglobal.net (Lynn and Jean Neff) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BT7 Message-ID: <387059.4184.qm@web82806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It is getting nearer to the time I will have to replace the top and tonneau. Any thoughts and/or suggestions? Thanks in advance. Lynn Neff BT7 Springfield, IL From ahbn6 at verizon.net Fri Jul 23 09:37:42 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:37:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Lettering tip Message-ID: <008801cb2a7c$fe0060a0$fa0121e0$@verizon.net> The lettering on my gearshift knob (and on other items in the cockpit) was getting rather tatty -- the white was disappearing. So, I went to the archives and found that some use White-Out to redo the lettering. Not having any in the day and age of computer printers, I went to the local Staples and found that, in addition to the old bottles with brushes, there is a new version that works similar to a ball point pen. Pretty easy to use and not messy after you go through a short learning curve. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Fri Jul 23 10:20:46 2010 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Conclave pictures In-Reply-To: <387059.4184.qm@web82806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <387059.4184.qm@web82806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <37218.5072.qm@web54105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I wish someone would be willing to share the pictures of the conclave to those who did not attend. Flicker ? etc.... Thanks, Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: Lynn and Jean Neff To: Healeys Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 10:26:21 AM Subject: [Healeys] BT7 It is getting nearer to the time I will have to replace the top and tonneau. Any thoughts and/or suggestions? Thanks in advance. Lynn Neff BT7 Springfield, IL _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From cbaustin at verizon.net Fri Jul 23 11:22:44 2010 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:22:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 References: <387059.4184.qm@web82806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6B0AF2E944204FB88737BF3515CB4BD0@universal1> I know that dealing with Robbins support staff is less than satisfactory. If you do end up with a Robbins top/tonneau, be aware that they come (sometimes) with incorrect instruction sheets that are superseded by the printed admonition that you MUST have a 'professional' install the piece. I have had several conversations directly with Doug Robbins and best I can say is that I was less than impressed. I ordered my last tonneau (Bugeye) from topsonline.com and the piece was shipped from 'Vic's Upholstery' in a Robbins box with Robbins documentation. I think Vic's is the job-shop for Robbins. As you might have gathered by now, I got no satisfaction from anyone involved other than the 'professional installer' who is an acquaintance that happens to be in the business. He knows Robbins and echoed all of my remarks. My tonneau needed some mods to make it fit correctly and additionally has two flaps sewn in that do not belong and can't be removed. Good luck, CB From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jul 23 11:53:42 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:53:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] resto update Message-ID: BT7 6722 is progressing at a slower pace than wanted, but that's to be expected. The body work on the rear fenders, bonnet , boot, doors and tranny tunnel have been completed. They began the aluminum welding on Wed. typical rips where the front shroud meets the chassis. Additionally, I had a bunch of extra holes drilled into my trunk floor and rear shroud. I guess it leaked and rather then replace the boot seal, they drilled exit holes...... The metal has been sealed and they are working on the the body work. I will try to break it out and tow it to the ABFM-Portland, Labor day weekend ( if its not done by then) I will have lost this driving season, but I have to be satisfied that we repaired all 4 fenders, doglegs and rocker ends, repaired one rusty door, removed all brightwork and interior, removed the intake and exhaust, had the car striped to bare metal and begun the bodywork in less that 8 months time! wow! still cleaning out the garage looking for parts I have squirreled away over the last 35 years. I will upload photos to the other site, as per Mark. Cheers -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From rdryman1 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 23 13:03:34 2010 From: rdryman1 at yahoo.com (Richard Dryman) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Conclave pictures In-Reply-To: <37218.5072.qm@web54105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <387059.4184.qm@web82806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37218.5072.qm@web54105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <765392.49243.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> typed in Google and found these--haven't looked at them all so assume they are ok--no control on the slide show tho: http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/gatewayhealey/pictures.htm sure there will be lots more to come--little early yet for cameras to be downloaded R I wish someone would be willing to share the pictures of the conclave to those who did not attend. Flicker ? etc.... Thanks, Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: Lynn and Jean Neff To: Healeys Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 10:26:21 AM Subject: [Healeys] BT7 It is getting nearer to the time I will have to replace the top and tonneau. Any thoughts and/or suggestions? Thanks in advance. Lynn Neff BT7 Springfield, IL _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rdryman1 at yahoo.com ________________________________ From: Josi Vicente Vargas To: Healeys Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 12:20:46 PM Subject: [Healeys] Conclave pictures From ahbn6 at verizon.net Fri Jul 23 13:12:18 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:12:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 In-Reply-To: <6B0AF2E944204FB88737BF3515CB4BD0@universal1> References: <387059.4184.qm@web82806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6B0AF2E944204FB88737BF3515CB4BD0@universal1> Message-ID: <00ad01cb2a9a$f88b25b0$e9a17110$@verizon.net> Ditto from me. I still wonder what those tabs are for. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charley Braum Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:23 PM To: Lynn and Jean Neff Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 I know that dealing with Robbins support staff is less than satisfactory. If you do end up with a Robbins top/tonneau, be aware that they come (sometimes) with incorrect instruction sheets that are superseded by the printed admonition that you MUST have a 'professional' install the piece. I have had several conversations directly with Doug Robbins and best I can say is that I was less than impressed. I ordered my last tonneau (Bugeye) from topsonline.com and the piece was shipped from 'Vic's Upholstery' in a Robbins box with Robbins documentation. I think Vic's is the job-shop for Robbins. As you might have gathered by now, I got no satisfaction from anyone involved other than the 'professional installer' who is an acquaintance that happens to be in the business. He knows Robbins and echoed all of my remarks. My tonneau needed some mods to make it fit correctly and additionally has two flaps sewn in that do not belong and can't be removed. Good luck, CB From dan at warner-associates.com Fri Jul 23 13:27:43 2010 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:27:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Lettering tip In-Reply-To: <008801cb2a7c$fe0060a0$fa0121e0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Does anyone have a method to get the word TEMPERTURE on the face of the heater/air control panel of a BJ8 that has worn off. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:38 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Lettering tip The lettering on my gearshift knob (and on other items in the cockpit) was getting rather tatty -- the white was disappearing. So, I went to the archives and found that some use White-Out to redo the lettering. Not having any in the day and age of computer printers, I went to the local Staples and found that, in addition to the old bottles with brushes, there is a new version that works similar to a ball point pen. Pretty easy to use and not messy after you go through a short learning curve. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dan at warner-associates.com From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri Jul 23 13:31:46 2010 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:31:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 In-Reply-To: <6B0AF2E944204FB88737BF3515CB4BD0@universal1> References: <387059.4184.qm@web82806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <6B0AF2E944204FB88737BF3515CB4BD0@universal1> Message-ID: Are you speaking of the large flaps that lift from the forward direction? If so they are to hold the cover down to the wall behind the seats. They should attach to tennex type fixtures which are often missing from the wall. I got my top from Moss many years ago and had to put on the fittings but I don't remember it being a big deal (ie, no swearing or throwing involved) except that it must be left in the sun before starting anything. You need a crayon to mark where the pins are and a leather hole punch (Harbor Freight). You can tighten the tennex fasteners with small needle nose pliers. I used the pliers used to remove "C" rings like on the U-joints. You can actually be a little off 'cause when it cools it tightens up. Rich Kahn > From: cbaustin at verizon.net > To: lnjn36 at sbcglobal.net > Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:22:44 -0400 > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 > > I know that dealing with Robbins support staff is less than satisfactory. > > If you do end up with a Robbins top/tonneau, be aware that they come > (sometimes) with incorrect instruction sheets that are superseded by the > printed admonition that you MUST have a 'professional' install the piece. > > I have had several conversations directly with Doug Robbins and best I can > say is that I was less than impressed. > > I ordered my last tonneau (Bugeye) from topsonline.com and the piece was > shipped from 'Vic's Upholstery' in a Robbins box with Robbins documentation. I > think Vic's is the job-shop for Robbins. > > As you might have gathered by now, I got no satisfaction from anyone > involved other than the 'professional installer' who is an acquaintance that > happens to be in the business. He knows Robbins and echoed all of my remarks. > My tonneau needed some mods to make it fit correctly and additionally has two > flaps sewn in that do not belong and can't be removed. > > Good luck, > > > CB > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From cbaustin at verizon.net Fri Jul 23 13:55:36 2010 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:55:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 References: <387059.4184.qm@web82806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <6B0AF2E944204FB88737BF3515CB4BD0@universal1> Message-ID: "Are you speaking of the large flaps that lift from the forward direction? If so they are to hold the cover down to the wall behind the seats." My Bugeye does not have a wall behind the seats. I think those flaps may be for later Spridgets, but I've been told they are not for Bugeyes. If I am two-up in the car I would likely remove the tonneau and put it in the boot. Later, C B From Jwhlyadv at aol.com Fri Jul 23 15:01:00 2010 From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jwhlyadv at aol.com) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:01:00 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Conclave pictures Message-ID: <98563.74fa8eca.397b5d0c@aol.com> It would be nice if the Facebook users posted Conclave photos on the AHCA Face Book page also.... Jim Werner Shamelessly promoting Austin Healey clubs since 1979 Louisville, KY From rdryman1 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 23 15:12:54 2010 From: rdryman1 at yahoo.com (Richard Dryman) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Conclave pictures In-Reply-To: <98563.74fa8eca.397b5d0c@aol.com> References: <98563.74fa8eca.397b5d0c@aol.com> Message-ID: <675166.2558.qm@web110305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thanks for doing that Jim--I love Picasa quality also--but lots of folks forget to check 'largest' when they upload, it is not defaulted; it does generally fills in an HD LED monitor here it is guys: >>>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=360732548931&ref=search almost 300 photos thus far. ________________________________ From: "Jwhlyadv at aol.com" To: rdryman1 at yahoo.com; jvvmusme at yahoo.com; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 5:01:00 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Conclave pictures It would be nice if the Facebook users posted Conclave photos on the AHCA Face Book page also.... Jim Werner Shamelessly promoting Austin Healey clubs since 1979 Louisville, KY From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jul 23 15:41:09 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:41:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Lettering tip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39BC1CA0FA02437593898EFEA0F987D1@LIFEBOOK> Hi Dan, Believe it or not, the easiest way is to just buy a new plate. Messing around with dry transfers or wet decals will be more trouble than it's worth and you'd probably have to dismount it to do a decent job anyway. Rich -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Stromquist" Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:27 PM To: "'Healey list'" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lettering tip > Does anyone have a method to get the word TEMPERTURE on the face of the > heater/air control panel of a BJ8 that has worn off. > Dan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of John Sims > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:38 AM > To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Lettering tip > > The lettering on my gearshift knob (and on other items in the cockpit) was > getting rather tatty -- the white was disappearing. So, I went to the > archives and found that some use White-Out to redo the lettering. Not > having > any in the day and age of computer printers, I went to the local Staples > and > found that, in addition to the old bottles with brushes, there is a new > version that works similar to a ball point pen. Pretty easy to use and not > messy after you go through a short learning curve. > > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/dan at warner-associates.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Fri Jul 23 15:43:24 2010 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:43:24 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave pictures In-Reply-To: <765392.49243.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <387059.4184.qm@web82806.mail.mud.yahoo.com><37218.5072.qm@web54105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <765392.49243.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There's a silver 100 in the slideshow with Dunlop alloy wheels & hardtop - anyone know whose that is (I'd like to get more photos) Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz -------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Dryman" Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 5:03 AM To: "Josi Vicente Vargas" ; "Healeys" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Conclave pictures > typed in Google and found these--haven't looked at them all so assume they > are > ok--no control on the slide show tho: > http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/gatewayhealey/pictures.htm > > > > sure there > will be lots more to come--little early yet for cameras to be > downloaded > R > I > wish someone would be willing to share the pictures of the conclave to > those > who did not attend. > Flicker ? etc.... > > Thanks, > > > Josi Vicente Vargas > Musmi > Tel. (571) 321 3740 > Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 > Skype: jovivago > > > www.musme.net > Bogota, Colombia > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Lynn and Jean Neff > > To: Healeys > Sent: Fri, July > 23, 2010 10:26:21 AM > Subject: [Healeys] BT7 > > It is getting nearer to the time > I will have to replace the top and tonneau. > Any thoughts and/or suggestions? > Thanks in advance. > > Lynn Neff > BT7 > Springfield, IL > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rdryman1 at yahoo.com > ________________________________ > > From: Josi Vicente Vargas > > To: Healeys > Sent: Fri, July 23, > 2010 12:20:46 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Conclave pictures > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/greylinn at ozemail.com.au From hubrick at gmail.com Fri Jul 23 17:12:24 2010 From: hubrick at gmail.com (Rick Huber) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:12:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Parts Message-ID: Wow, what a resource! Posted a note to the list two days ago looking for a few parts, got multiple replies from a bunch of you, and just finished paying for the second item by paypal. Thanks very much. Cheers, Rick Huber 64 BJ8 Phase I From bj7ah at acanac.net Fri Jul 23 18:01:27 2010 From: bj7ah at acanac.net (Heal;ey) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:01:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave pictures In-Reply-To: <98563.74fa8eca.397b5d0c@aol.com> References: <98563.74fa8eca.397b5d0c@aol.com> Message-ID: Note The website for Austin-Healey Club of America is http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=360732548931&ref=search Bob 1963 BJ7 -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 5:01 PM To: ; ; Subject: Re: [Healeys] Conclave pictures > It would be nice if the Facebook users posted Conclave photos on the AHCA > Face Book page also.... > > Jim Werner > Shamelessly promoting Austin Healey clubs since 1979 > Louisville, KY > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bj7ah at acanac.net From Jwhlyadv at aol.com Fri Jul 23 18:08:50 2010 From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jwhlyadv at aol.com) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:08:50 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Lettering tip Message-ID: Before you install the new plate give it a coat of clear paint so the letters do not wear again Jim Werner Louisville, KY From ynotink at msn.com Fri Jul 23 19:09:52 2010 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:09:52 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <4C481CC1.9000208@earthlink.net> References: <4C4790F4.6030809@earthlink.net>, , <26F14275-B27A-4B20-A80C-249C27AC6DCB@gmail.com>, <4C481CC1.9000208@earthlink.net> Message-ID: If the graphite seal in the water pump is wet the first time you start it it will leak and will take a long time to seal. I had to remove the pump on my BN1 after I rebuilt the engine and spin it up with 1/2" drill motor. Only takes about 30 seconds. Bill Lawrence > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:26:09 -0400 > From: rchaskell at earthlink.net > To: eyera3 at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pump > > It's my understanding that back in the day the water pump seal had to be > bedded in before installing the pump on the car. The pulley/shaft was > spun (say using the wire wheel on a bench grinder) dry for some period > of time. Just wondered if that should still be done and, if so, how. > > Bob Haskell > 3000 MkI registrar > > I Erbs wrote: > > I hope it is full of liquid before starting > > > > I Erbs > > Sent from my iPod > > > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:24 PM, richard mayor > > wrote: > > > >> I usually start the engine. > >> > >> Richard Mayor > >> BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > >> Portland, Oregon > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:29:40 -0400 > >>> From: rchaskell at earthlink.net > >>> To: healeys at autox.team.net > >>> Subject: [Healeys] water pump > >>> > >>> Listers, > >>> > >>> What's the current wisdom regarding breaking-in a new water pump? > >>> Method? > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Bob > >>> 3000 MkI Registrar > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Healeys at autox.team.net > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > >> Hotmail. > >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 > >> > >> 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com From ynotink at msn.com Fri Jul 23 19:56:12 2010 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:56:12 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Lettering tip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you do find a way to get the lettering done, and before you actually do it, run a spell check on TEMPERATURE. Bill Lawrence > From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com > Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:08:50 -0400 > To: richchrysler at quickclic.net; dan at warner-associates.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lettering tip > > Before you install the new plate give it a coat of clear paint so the > letters do not wear again > > Jim Werner > Louisville, KY > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri Jul 23 20:12:27 2010 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:12:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 In-Reply-To: References: <387059.4184.qm@web82806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, , <6B0AF2E944204FB88737BF3515CB4BD0@universal1>, , Message-ID: Sorry, I thought you had a BT7. Rich Kahn From: cbaustin at verizon.net To: tahoehealey at hotmail.com CC: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BT7 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:55:36 -0400 "Are you speaking of the large flaps that lift from the forward direction? If so they are to hold the cover down to the wall behind the seats." My Bugeye does not have a wall behind the seats. I think those flaps may be for later Spridgets, but I've been told they are not for Bugeyes. If I am two-up in the car I would likely remove the tonneau and put it in the boot. Later, CB _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 23 20:30:45 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:30:45 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: References: <4C4790F4.6030809@earthlink.net> <26F14275-B27A-4B20-A80C-249C27AC6DCB@gmail.com> <4C481CC1.9000208@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Bill - I am pretty sure all 6 cylinder pumps rebuilt use sealed bearings so no need for this. Alan On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:09 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > If the graphite seal in the water pump is wet the first time you start it > it > will leak and will take a long time to seal. I had to remove the pump on my > BN1 after I rebuilt the engine and spin it up with 1/2" drill motor. Only > takes about 30 seconds. > Bill Lawrence > > > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:26:09 -0400 > > From: rchaskell at earthlink.net > > To: eyera3 at gmail.com > > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pump > > > > It's my understanding that back in the day the water pump seal had to be > > bedded in before installing the pump on the car. The pulley/shaft was > > spun (say using the wire wheel on a bench grinder) dry for some period > > of time. Just wondered if that should still be done and, if so, how. > > > > Bob Haskell > > 3000 MkI registrar From haywoodone at hotmail.com Fri Jul 23 20:51:31 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:51:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fri. Post Conclave Adventures Message-ID: Today started out beautiful again, cool AM temps, sunny sky's, top down weather as best as it could be. We back tracked from Winchester thru horse country again to Mt. Sterling, Ky. This area is absolutely indescribable. I guess anybody who is anybody in the horse business has property in this "zone" because once you leave it you see no more farms of that caliber. You would think they would be scattered around in the countryside but no, when it ends, it ends. Agriculture takes over as well as cattle ranches. We found Hwy 460 and followed it through Eastern Ky. We left horse country, went thru agricultural country, and as the hills turned into mountains we entered coal country. From one type of beauty to another. Hwy 460 is called "The Country Music Highway" passing the home places of artists like Loretta Lynn and Dwight Yoakam. 18 wheelers, pickup trucks, and big American iron rule the roads. We kept up just fine on those mountain grades however. My arms got a good work out turning rt., then lft., then rt., then lft., well you get the idea. As it got closer to noon the temps shot up and approached 100 deg. with high humidity. It was just bearable while moving at 50 MPH but when in town (and there are lots of small towns) it became very intolerable. Around 1:30 we stopped in Salyersville, Ky for lunch. It was blisterin HOT!! We decided it was time for the top to go up. While in the Court House parking lot we asked a man where to eat in town. He said go to the "Kozy Corner" right across the street, "I promise you it's good" he said. We didn't care as long as it had AC but it had both good food and AC. The closer we get to home the more the people start sounding like us. We got back out and continued on thru Ky, into Grundy, Va. The Appalachian Mountains are beautiful, what can I say. We came over to the eastern side down 460 to Claypool Hill, got on Hwy 19 to Abingdon, Va. (the ancestral home of Martha Washington) where we are staying the night. The temps cooled down as the sun set casting shadows on the eastern slopes-it was nice again. We had another great Healey day. Take care, George & Sherry Haywood _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From mark at bradakis.com Fri Jul 23 20:56:57 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:56:57 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave pictures In-Reply-To: <765392.49243.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <387059.4184.qm@web82806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37218.5072.qm@web54105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <765392.49243.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C4A5679.6050307@bradakis.com> > I wish someone would be willing to share the pictures of the conclave to those > who did not attend. > Flicker ? etc.... Maybe http://www.team.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=13 mjb. From jeff at pellfam.com Sat Jul 24 05:38:43 2010 From: jeff at pellfam.com (Jeff Pelletier) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:38:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... Message-ID: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> I'm having trouble with my 106 running too hot....I'm changing out the thermostat... checking radiator flow and doing a tune up... my question is my electric fan... A british car mechanic told me to ditch the fan because it inhibits air flow...?? I have mixed emotions because I know the electric fan is helping a lot when stuck in traffic.... Any of you guy successfully running these fans..?? what temp should I be striving for ?? 180?? Thanks Jp From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jul 24 07:18:30 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:18:30 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Message-ID: <4C4AE826.4040808@chello.nl> Jeff, What size is the electric fan, where is the thermoswitch positioned and what are the switching temperatures? The story about inhibiting airflow through the radiator is B..S.. as it will turn in the airflow. There is only the small area of the fan motor that may cause some disturbance. I like to run my engines fairly hot, on most LBC engines I use switching temperatures from the electric fan of around 96:C on and around 89:C off when the thermoswitch is positioned in the cilinder head, thermostat cover, water pump, top radiator hose or in the top radiator tank. If the switch is in the bottom tank I would use switching temperatures of about 15-20:C lower. Also fit a manual override switch. The engine's thermostat is best chosen between 80:C and 86:C in this set up. On all cars I own and have owned with fixed fans, I removed them and fitted electric fans controlled by a thermoswitch (Triumph Spitfire, Renault 4, Jensen Healey, Landrover SIII etc). It is the only practical (and cheap) solution in modern traffic. Kees Oudesluijs NL Jeff Pelletier wrote: > I'm having trouble with my 106 running too hot....I'm changing out the > thermostat... checking radiator flow and doing a tune up... my > question is my electric fan... A british car mechanic told me to ditch > the fan because it inhibits air flow...?? I have mixed emotions because > I know the electric fan is helping a lot when stuck in traffic.... Any > of you guy successfully running these fans..?? > > what temp should I be striving for ?? 180?? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jp > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3025 - datum van uitgifte: 07/24/10 08:36:00 From jeff at pellfam.com Sat Jul 24 07:22:50 2010 From: jeff at pellfam.com (Jeff Pelletier) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:22:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... more info In-Reply-To: <4C4AE826.4040808@chello.nl> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> <4C4AE826.4040808@chello.nl> Message-ID: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150483@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> The fan is on constant (as soon as I turn key..) ... it is on the outside of the radiator blowing air toward the engine .,.. the fan is rather large covers much of the size of the radiator.. and yes I do have a fiberglass fan on the waterpump side also... Thanks Jp -----Original Message----- From: Oudesluys [mailto:coudesluijs at chello.nl] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 9:19 AM To: Jeff Pelletier Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... Jeff, What size is the electric fan, where is the thermoswitch positioned and what are the switching temperatures? The story about inhibiting airflow through the radiator is B..S.. as it will turn in the airflow. There is only the small area of the fan motor that may cause some disturbance. I like to run my engines fairly hot, on most LBC engines I use switching temperatures from the electric fan of around 96:C on and around 89:C off when the thermoswitch is positioned in the cilinder head, thermostat cover, water pump, top radiator hose or in the top radiator tank. If the switch is in the bottom tank I would use switching temperatures of about 15-20:C lower. Also fit a manual override switch. The engine's thermostat is best chosen between 80:C and 86:C in this set up. On all cars I own and have owned with fixed fans, I removed them and fitted electric fans controlled by a thermoswitch (Triumph Spitfire, Renault 4, Jensen Healey, Landrover SIII etc). It is the only practical (and cheap) solution in modern traffic. Kees Oudesluijs NL Jeff Pelletier wrote: > I'm having trouble with my 106 running too hot....I'm changing out the > thermostat... checking radiator flow and doing a tune up... my > question is my electric fan... A british car mechanic told me to ditch > the fan because it inhibits air flow...?? I have mixed emotions because > I know the electric fan is helping a lot when stuck in traffic.... Any > of you guy successfully running these fans..?? > > what temp should I be striving for ?? 180?? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jp > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3025 - datum van uitgifte: 07/24/10 08:36:00 > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3021 - Release Date: 07/24/10 02:36:00 From jeff at pellfam.com Sat Jul 24 07:24:17 2010 From: jeff at pellfam.com (Jeff Pelletier) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:24:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <4C4AE826.4040808@chello.nl> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> <4C4AE826.4040808@chello.nl> Message-ID: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150484@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Gauge is good.. I checkd radiator with a heat gun.. it was at 200.. degress Jp -----Original Message----- From: Oudesluys [mailto:coudesluijs at chello.nl] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 9:19 AM To: Jeff Pelletier Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... Jeff, What size is the electric fan, where is the thermoswitch positioned and what are the switching temperatures? The story about inhibiting airflow through the radiator is B..S.. as it will turn in the airflow. There is only the small area of the fan motor that may cause some disturbance. I like to run my engines fairly hot, on most LBC engines I use switching temperatures from the electric fan of around 96:C on and around 89:C off when the thermoswitch is positioned in the cilinder head, thermostat cover, water pump, top radiator hose or in the top radiator tank. If the switch is in the bottom tank I would use switching temperatures of about 15-20:C lower. Also fit a manual override switch. The engine's thermostat is best chosen between 80:C and 86:C in this set up. On all cars I own and have owned with fixed fans, I removed them and fitted electric fans controlled by a thermoswitch (Triumph Spitfire, Renault 4, Jensen Healey, Landrover SIII etc). It is the only practical (and cheap) solution in modern traffic. Kees Oudesluijs NL Jeff Pelletier wrote: > I'm having trouble with my 106 running too hot....I'm changing out the > thermostat... checking radiator flow and doing a tune up... my > question is my electric fan... A british car mechanic told me to ditch > the fan because it inhibits air flow...?? I have mixed emotions because > I know the electric fan is helping a lot when stuck in traffic.... Any > of you guy successfully running these fans..?? > > what temp should I be striving for ?? 180?? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jp > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3025 - datum van uitgifte: 07/24/10 08:36:00 > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3017 - Release Date: 07/24/10 02:36:00 From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 24 08:06:16 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:06:16 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Message-ID: Jeff - I had one of those fans on my BJ8 many years ago and removed it because it restricted airflow while driving. It caused my car to run hot. The big pancake motor is what kills the airflow. If you really want an electric fan, you should install a high powered fan with high CFMs, do your research. Generally speaking I find SPAL fans to be the best in the market. I have SPAL fans on my A90 and my Jag Mk IX and they both run very cool. My 100 doesn't need a fan and my BJ8 is fairly well sorted w/o an extra fan. The kenlow fans and the others that are marketed to the healey community are mostly crap. Alan On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Jeff Pelletier wrote: > I'm having trouble with my 106 running too hot....I'm changing out the > thermostat... checking radiator flow and doing a tune up... my > question is my electric fan... A british car mechanic told me to ditch > the fan because it inhibits air flow...?? I have mixed emotions because > I know the electric fan is helping a lot when stuck in traffic.... Any > of you guy successfully running these fans..?? > > what temp should I be striving for ?? 180?? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jp > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jul 24 09:01:16 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:01:16 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... more info In-Reply-To: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150483@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> <4C4AE826.4040808@chello.nl> <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150483@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Message-ID: <4C4B003C.8080104@chello.nl> Is it fitted right up to the radiator and are the tips of the blades fitted with a circular band or are you using a shroud? It is imperative that as little as possible air can escape around the fan, make sure all air goes through the radiator, seal the gaps around the shroud if present. Pushing or pulling does not make any difference. Do not leave the fan run continuously, switch it through a thermoswitch and relay. As soon as you gather speed the flow of air is usually sufficient to cool properly. Remove the fan on the waterpump. All assuming your radiator is in top condition. If it is silted up, have the core renewed with a higher efficiency core. Having the radiator cleaned or rinsed with caustic soda may help a bit for a while but it is pretty useless in the long run. Kees Oudesluijs NL Jeff Pelletier wrote: > The fan is on constant (as soon as I turn key..) ... it is on the outside of > the radiator blowing air toward the engine .,.. the fan is rather large > covers much of the size of the radiator.. and yes I do have a fiberglass fan > on the waterpump side also... > > Thanks > > Jp > > > > > Jeff, > > What size is the electric fan, where is the thermoswitch positioned and > what are the switching temperatures? > The story about inhibiting airflow through the radiator is B..S.. as it > will turn in the airflow. There is only the small area of the fan motor > that may cause some disturbance. > > I like to run my engines fairly hot, on most LBC engines I use switching > temperatures from the electric fan of around 96:C on and around 89:C off > when the thermoswitch is positioned in the cilinder head, thermostat > cover, water pump, top radiator hose or in the top radiator tank. If the > switch is in the bottom tank I would use switching temperatures of about > 15-20:C lower. Also fit a manual override switch. > The engine's thermostat is best chosen between 80:C and 86:C in this set up. > > On all cars I own and have owned with fixed fans, I removed them and > fitted electric fans controlled by a thermoswitch (Triumph Spitfire, > Renault 4, Jensen Healey, Landrover SIII etc). It is the only practical > (and cheap) solution in modern traffic. > > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Jul 24 09:05:13 2010 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:05:13 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?too_hot?= Message-ID: <20100724150513.27986.qmail@server278.com> living in las vegas, the term "too hot" tends to be relative. the other day when it was 113 degrees and i had to go somewhere in he healey (which is something i try to avoid), my temp would go up to about 220 at a stop light. it would run about 212 at speed. i still have the original radiator and 4 blade fan on the bn6. the problem was not with the cooling system, which never boiled over, but with the vapor locking of the fuel system. i am in the process of insulating the fuel pump, carbs and lines wherever possible with reflective insulation and hope to solve the boil out problem. i read the other day in my classic car magazine where today's fuel has less vapor pressure than previously and older cars have a problem with this. wish me luck and i will keep you posted. hjim From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 24 09:34:21 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:34:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Message-ID: <4C4B07FD.7040007@justbrits.com> Alan, Alan, Alan......... << The kenlow fans and the others that are marketed to the healey community are mostly crap. >> "Correct" Concours language at this EARLY hour of the day ?!?!? Tsk, tsk !!! Ed PS: LOL !!!!!!! Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] From grabow.bernie at gmail.com Sat Jul 24 09:46:57 2010 From: grabow.bernie at gmail.com (Bernie Grabow) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Message-ID: I had my radiator recored by a local radiator shop back in 2006 when completing the restoration of my BJ8. Used 3 row 5/8 tubes 16 fins per inch. It was pricey at $346 but my Healey stays at 190 even on the hottest and longest drives. Drove to conclave from northern Kentucky in some sweltering heat and still ran at 190. Bernie On 7/24/10, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Jeff - > > I had one of those fans on my BJ8 many years ago and removed it because it > restricted airflow while driving. It caused my car to run hot. The big > pancake motor is what kills the airflow. > > If you really want an electric fan, you should install a high powered fan > with high CFMs, do your research. Generally speaking I find SPAL fans to > be > the best in the market. I have SPAL fans on my A90 and my Jag Mk IX and > they both run very cool. My 100 doesn't need a fan and my BJ8 is fairly > well sorted w/o an extra fan. > > The kenlow fans and the others that are marketed to the healey community > are > mostly crap. > > Alan > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Jeff Pelletier wrote: > >> I'm having trouble with my 106 running too hot....I'm changing out the >> thermostat... checking radiator flow and doing a tune up... my >> question is my electric fan... A british car mechanic told me to ditch >> the fan because it inhibits air flow...?? I have mixed emotions because >> I know the electric fan is helping a lot when stuck in traffic.... Any >> of you guy successfully running these fans..?? >> >> what temp should I be striving for ?? 180?? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Jp >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/meemeb at aol.com From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Sat Jul 24 09:58:24 2010 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:58:24 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Still too hot Message-ID: What I did to my 100-6: Re-cored rad., rad shroud around fan (BCS), BCS themostat, frontt rad shrouds to direct air, water wetter, riched mixture, played with timing- all with little effect. I put on the Moss motors tropical fan (recalled because one failed) and it made a HUGE difference. In traffic I put on the biggest electric fan that I could fit on the X- brace and now in traffic I also run cool. Now, at highway speeds the electric fan did restrict the flow some when off and it gets a bit hotter, but if I turn it on (installed by a switch) it drops down. So what worked for me: Moss tropical fan (six blade)- if you can find one, and the electric fan for traffic. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jul 24 10:03:06 2010 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] New Website/Forum Message-ID: <953757.67787.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'm liking this new website/forum that focuses on the kind of varied automobile interests that a lot of us share: http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/ Don't worry about the name, no pictures of pit bulls or Michael Vick. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From jeff at pellfam.com Sat Jul 24 10:19:08 2010 From: jeff at pellfam.com (Jeff Pelletier) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:19:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Still too hot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150486@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Couldn't find the tropical fan but this http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=72269&Sort Order=1 texas Kooler looks good anyone running one of these? From: S and T Miller [mailto:stmiller96 at hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:58 AM To: Jeff Pelletier; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Still too hot What I did to my 100-6: Re-cored rad., rad shroud around fan (BCS), BCS themostat, frontt rad shrouds to direct air, water wetter, riched mixture, played with timing- all with little effect. I put on the Moss motors tropical fan (recalled because one failed) and it made a HUGE difference. In traffic I put on the biggest electric fan that I could fit on the X- brace and now in traffic I also run cool. Now, at highway speeds the electric fan did restrict the flow some when off and it gets a bit hotter, but if I turn it on (installed by a switch) it drops down. So what worked for me: Moss tropical fan (six blade)- if you can find one, and the electric fan for traffic. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." ________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3021 - Release Date: 07/24/10 02:36:00 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jul 24 10:22:30 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:22:30 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] too hot In-Reply-To: <20100724150513.27986.qmail@server278.com> References: <20100724150513.27986.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4C4B1346.1020402@chello.nl> Ok, a stop light may not be a problem, but what about a full blown traffic jam, moving up a bit every few seconds for about half an hour or longer? Daily practice on many roads over here. Practically any car without an electric fan would boil, even in winter. Only those with a very efficient fan in a well designed and sealed shroud could survive. Kees Oudesluijs NL healeymanjim at hansencc.net wrote: > living in las vegas, the term "too hot" tends to be relative. the other day when it was 113 degrees and i had to go somewhere in he healey (which is something i try to avoid), my temp would go up to about 220 at a stop light. it would run about 212 at speed. i still have the original radiator and 4 blade fan on the bn6. the problem was not with the cooling system, which never boiled over, but with the vapor locking of the fuel system. i am in the process of insulating the fuel pump, carbs and lines wherever possible with reflective insulation and hope to solve the boil out problem. i read the other day in my classic car magazine where today's fuel has less vapor pressure than previously and older cars have a problem with this. wish me luck and i will keep you posted. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3025 - datum van uitgifte: 07/24/10 08:36:00 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Jul 24 10:49:31 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:49:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <4C4B07FD.7040007@justbrits.com> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> <4C4B07FD.7040007@justbrits.com> Message-ID: CRAP....a Concours short form for "Constantly Recurring And Problematic" Rich -------------------------------------------------- From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:34 AM To: Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... > Alan, Alan, Alan......... > > << The kenlow fans and the others that are marketed to the healey > community > are mostly crap. >> > > "Correct" Concours language at this EARLY hour of the day ?!?!? > Tsk, tsk !!! > > Ed > > PS: LOL !!!!!!! > > Please visit MY site at: > www.justbrits.com > [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the > For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] > [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 24 11:45:06 2010 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:45:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] resto update References: Message-ID: <000c01cb2b57$f4aae260$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> The last thing you want to do now is start to hurry. Take your time, work on small stuff inside in the winter, and it will start to come together in no time. I would shoot for next driving season and enjoy the fact that you can now work on a rust free car. What a moral boost that is. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Erbs" To: "healey help" Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:53 PM Subject: [Healeys] resto update > BT7 6722 is progressing at a slower pace than wanted, but that's to be > expected. > > The body work on the rear fenders, bonnet , boot, doors and tranny tunnel > have been completed. > > They began the aluminum welding on Wed. typical rips where the front > shroud > meets the chassis. Additionally, I had a bunch of extra holes drilled into > my trunk floor and rear shroud. I guess it leaked and rather then replace > the boot seal, they drilled exit holes...... > > The metal has been sealed and they are working on the the body work. I > will > try to break it out and tow it to the ABFM-Portland, Labor day weekend ( > if > its not done by then) I will have lost this driving season, but I have to > be satisfied that we repaired all 4 fenders, doglegs and rocker > ends, repaired one rusty door, removed all brightwork and interior, > removed > the intake and exhaust, had the car striped to bare metal and begun the > bodywork in less that 8 months time! wow! > still cleaning out the garage looking for parts I have squirreled away > over > the last 35 years. > > I will upload photos to the other site, as per Mark. > Cheers > > -- > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) > (_________________________) > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jul 24 11:55:02 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:55:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] resto update In-Reply-To: <000c01cb2b57$f4aae260$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000c01cb2b57$f4aae260$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: Thanks, That;s my plan. Just missing out on enjoying my car. Hey I have waited 36 years so another season is OK. Told the body guy not cut corners, just to save time. Looking forward the spending the winter putting it back together and pestering the list with questions. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > The last thing you want to do now is start to hurry. Take your time, work > on small stuff inside in the winter, and it will start to come together in > no time. I would shoot for next driving season and enjoy > the fact that you can now work on a rust free car. What a moral boost that > is. > > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Erbs" > To: "healey help" > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:53 PM > Subject: [Healeys] resto update > > > BT7 6722 is progressing at a slower pace than wanted, but that's to be >> expected. >> >> The body work on the rear fenders, bonnet , boot, doors and tranny tunnel >> have been completed. >> >> They began the aluminum welding on Wed. typical rips where the front >> shroud >> meets the chassis. Additionally, I had a bunch of extra holes drilled into >> my trunk floor and rear shroud. I guess it leaked and rather then replace >> the boot seal, they drilled exit holes...... >> >> The metal has been sealed and they are working on the the body work. I >> will >> try to break it out and tow it to the ABFM-Portland, Labor day weekend ( >> if >> its not done by then) I will have lost this driving season, but I have to >> be satisfied that we repaired all 4 fenders, doglegs and rocker >> ends, repaired one rusty door, removed all brightwork and interior, >> removed >> the intake and exhaust, had the car striped to bare metal and begun the >> bodywork in less that 8 months time! wow! >> still cleaning out the garage looking for parts I have squirreled away >> over >> the last 35 years. >> >> I will upload photos to the other site, as per Mark. >> Cheers >> >> -- >> Ira Erbs >> Portland, OR >> _______ _______ >> (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) >> (_________________________) >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net >> > > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From healeyron at yahoo.com Sat Jul 24 12:32:59 2010 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Message-ID: <30671.80600.qm@web32903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had the radiator recored for my MkII BN7 Tricarb before the Vermont Conclave. With a 190 degree F thermostat I can start my car in any kind of hot weather and it let it sit for as long as I like and it stays at 190 degrees. No problems in traffic at any ambient tempurature. I do have a six blade Urethane Texas Cooler but I only put it on because I won it in a raffle a few years ago. My problem is that the faster I go the hotter It gets. I've been trying for a long time to get it to run cool on the highway but no success. Tried all the usual things with failed results. I'll be leaving for Encounter in a couple of weeks and am currently in the process of making an all effort to get it to run cool at speed. Had the Radiator reversed flushed today. Removed water pump to make sure the impellor hasn't disintegrated noticed the pulley dia. is only 4 1/2 in. dia. My BN6 has a 5 1/8 dia. pulley. Both use 3/8 belt. Any idea on which dia. is correct. Will be removing the Distributor to check wear on the centrifical advance system and correcting any problem that may appear. Hopefully it is the centrifical advance that is not working properly at higher RPMs that is causing the the engine to run at 212 degrees F at 3000 RPMs. Any suggestions. Ron Mitchell ________________________________ From: Jeff Pelletier To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 7:38:43 AM Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... I'm having trouble with my 106 running too hot....I'm changing out the thermostat... checking radiator flow and doing a tune up... my question is my electric fan... A british car mechanic told me to ditch the fan because it inhibits air flow...?? I have mixed emotions because I know the electric fan is helping a lot when stuck in traffic.... Any of you guy successfully running these fans..?? what temp should I be striving for ?? 180?? Thanks Jp _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyron at yahoo.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jul 24 14:21:41 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:21:41 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <30671.80600.qm@web32903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> <30671.80600.qm@web32903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C4B4B55.4030902@chello.nl> If this situation has emerged recently, check your temp gauge for correct indicating, remove the sensor and insert in an electric kettle with boiling water, compare the reading of the gauge with the boiling point of water: 100:C. Normal operating temperature should be around 80-90:C using an 80:C thermostat. Running an engine at lower temperatures is not a good idea, either slow or fast driving. All is well as long as it does not boil at any moment. Check for binding brakes. Check ignition timing and mixture. If that is OK have the head gasket pressure tested. If no results there must be insufficient flow of coolant. Several causes for that: -Slack fan belt -incorrect water pump -Partially blocked radiator, back flushing with caustic soda or otherwise is pretty useless when a radiator is partially blocked or badly scaled. Renew core. Perhaps the radiator is blocked by debris from the engine. Was the engine back flushed after using caustic soda to clean out the engine and block?? -Partially blocked, faulty or incorrect thermostat -Collapsed radiator hose -Blocked coolant passages in cylinder head or engine block If this situation also presented itself when the radiator core was changed, you probably have been conned. Resprayed only radiator or faulty core fitted. Kees Oudesluijs NL Ron Mitchell wrote: > I had the radiator recored for my MkII BN7 Tricarb before the Vermont > Conclave. > With a 190 degree F thermostat I can start my car in any kind of > hot weather and > it let it sit for as long as I like and it stays at 190 > degrees. No problems in > traffic at any ambient tempurature. I do have a > six blade Urethane Texas > Cooler but I only put it on because I won it in a > raffle a few years ago. > > > My problem is that the faster I go the hotter It > gets. I've been trying for a > long time to get it to run cool on the highway > but no success. Tried all the > usual things with failed results. I'll be > leaving for Encounter in a couple of > weeks and am currently in the process of > making an all effort to get it to run > cool at speed. Had the Radiator > reversed flushed today. Removed water pump to > make sure the impellor hasn't > disintegrated noticed the pulley dia. is only 4 > 1/2 in. dia. My BN6 has a 5 > 1/8 dia. pulley. Both use 3/8 belt. Any idea on > which dia. is correct. > > Will be removing the Distributor to check wear on the centrifical > advance system > and correcting any problem that may appear. > > Hopefully it is > the centrifical advance that is not working properly at higher > RPMs that is > causing the the engine to run at 212 degrees F at 3000 RPMs. > > Any > suggestions. From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Sat Jul 24 15:44:58 2010 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter & Veronica) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:44:58 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150480@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Message-ID: <35226ED96ECB48D2B2F5CD7152A6C25F@Notebook> G'day Jeff I have a 16" Davies Craig thermo fan on the standard 100 radiator in my V6 engined car. It virtually covers the entire surface of the radiator, but it rarely comes on other than when travelling slowly or stopped in traffic. I also have a manual override switch for peace of mind. There's certainly no sign of it causing overheating when running at any speed. Have you checked that your fan is actually blowing in the right direction? When I bought the V6 car, it had a smaller fan in front of the radiator, and it overheated badly. I found that it was actually sucking air forwards through the radiator. Having changed the polarity things improved, but it still needed a bigger fan. Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Pelletier" Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 9:38 PM To: Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... > I'm having trouble with my 106 running too hot....I'm changing out the > thermostat... checking radiator flow and doing a tune up... my > question is my electric fan... A british car mechanic told me to ditch > the fan because it inhibits air flow...?? I have mixed emotions because > I know the electric fan is helping a lot when stuck in traffic.... Any > of you guy successfully running these fans..?? > > what temp should I be striving for ?? 180?? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jp > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/greylinn at ozemail.com.au From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Jul 24 18:24:15 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:24:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <30671.80600.qm@web32903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100724202415.031SW.93663.root@pamxwww01-z01> What's wrong with 212 degrees? ---- Ron Mitchell wrote: ============= I had the radiator recored for my MkII BN7 Tricarb before the Vermont Conclave. With a 190 degree F thermostat I can start my car in any kind of hot weather and it let it sit for as long as I like and it stays at 190 degrees. No problems in traffic at any ambient tempurature. I do have a six blade Urethane Texas Cooler but I only put it on because I won it in a raffle a few years ago. My problem is that the faster I go the hotter It gets. I've been trying for a long time to get it to run cool on the highway but no success. Tried all the usual things with failed results. I'll be leaving for Encounter in a couple of weeks and am currently in the process of making an all effort to get it to run cool at speed. Had the Radiator reversed flushed today. Removed water pump to make sure the impellor hasn't disintegrated noticed the pulley dia. is only 4 1/2 in. dia. My BN6 has a 5 1/8 dia. pulley. Both use 3/8 belt. Any idea on which dia. is correct. Will be removing the Distributor to check wear on the centrifical advance system and correcting any problem that may appear. Hopefully it is the centrifical advance that is not working properly at higher RPMs that is causing the the engine to run at 212 degrees F at 3000 RPMs. Any suggestions. Ron Mitchell ________________________________ From: Jeff Pelletier To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 7:38:43 AM Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... I'm having trouble with my 106 running too hot....I'm changing out the thermostat... checking radiator flow and doing a tune up... my question is my electric fan... A british car mechanic told me to ditch the fan because it inhibits air flow...?? I have mixed emotions because I know the electric fan is helping a lot when stuck in traffic.... Any of you guy successfully running these fans..?? what temp should I be striving for ?? 180?? Thanks Jp _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyron at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From bighealey at astound.net Sat Jul 24 21:32:40 2010 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:32:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... Message-ID: <87B34BA0282B443688EB974BF72730F5@JohnSoderling> I run a Texas cooler fan too and like it. However, because it is a flexible blade fan the blades flatten out at higher engine RPM's and as a result pull less air. They are designed this way to lessen use of engine power at high RPM's when higher road speed presumably force sufficient air through the radiator without the need for a lot of air pull by the fan. Vrooom vrooom, John > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Ron Mitchell" > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:32 AM > To: "Jeff Pelletier" ; > Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... > >> I had the radiator recored for my MkII BN7 Tricarb before the Vermont >> Conclave. >> With a 190 degree F thermostat I can start my car in any kind of >> hot weather and >> it let it sit for as long as I like and it stays at 190 >> degrees. No problems in >> traffic at any ambient tempurature. I do have a >> six blade Urethane Texas >> Cooler but I only put it on because I won it in a >> raffle a few years ago. >> >> >> My problem is that the faster I go the hotter It >> gets. I've been trying for a >> long time to get it to run cool on the highway >> but no success. Tried all the >> usual things with failed results. I'll be >> leaving for Encounter in a couple of >> weeks and am currently in the process of >> making an all effort to get it to run >> cool at speed. Had the Radiator >> reversed flushed today. Removed water pump to >> make sure the impellor hasn't >> disintegrated noticed the pulley dia. is only 4 >> 1/2 in. dia. My BN6 has a 5 >> 1/8 dia. pulley. Both use 3/8 belt. Any idea on >> which dia. is correct. >> >> Will be removing the Distributor to check wear on the centrifical >> advance system >> and correcting any problem that may appear. >> >> Hopefully it is >> the centrifical advance that is not working properly at higher >> RPMs that is >> causing the the engine to run at 212 degrees F at 3000 RPMs. >> >> Any >> suggestions. >> >> Ron Mitchell From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sat Jul 24 22:22:03 2010 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:22:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] off by 3/16" In-Reply-To: <163874.35259.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <163874.35259.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <731C9B65D73C4C88B8BB24C6C2577022@LeonardPCPC> Don Day has a problem with his throttle linkage. He said he installed the throttle shaft into the fire wall and then into the throttle bracket that mounts to the intake manifold. His problem was the holes don't line up with holes in the intake manifold. They were off by 3/16". After contacting him and clarifying his problem, I found that the throttle linkages on our BJ8s are different. On his car, BJ8L42122, the throttle shaft is retained in the nylon bracket/bearing by two circlips to control fore and aft movement. This is preventing him from matching the holes in the nylon bracket and/or the bracket bolted to the manifold. My BJ8, HBJ8L39031, has only one circlip which is on the end of the shaft although there are two grooves in the shaft. On the other side of the nylon bracket is a spacer about an inch long that is between the nylon bracket and the lever that connects the control rod to the carburetors thus preventing fore and aft movement. I suggested that replacing the rearward circlip with an appropriate length spacer would give him the adjustment that he needed to move the nylon bracket back 3/16". Moss shows the two circlips in their catalog - no spacer. Do I have an an odd ball installation or was there a change in design during production? Does anyone else have the spacer on their BJ8? (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 From ynotink at msn.com Sat Jul 24 22:52:58 2010 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 04:52:58 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: References: <4C4790F4.6030809@earthlink.net>, , <26F14275-B27A-4B20-A80C-249C27AC6DCB@gmail.com>, <4C481CC1.9000208@earthlink.net>, , Message-ID: It's got nothing to do with the bearings. It's the seal that keeps the water in the engine. Bill Lawrence Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:30:45 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pump From: healey.nut at gmail.com To: ynotink at msn.com CC: rchaskell at earthlink.net; eyera3 at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net Bill - I am pretty sure all 6 cylinder pumps rebuilt use sealed bearings so no need for this. Alan On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:09 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: If the graphite seal in the water pump is wet the first time you start it it will leak and will take a long time to seal. I had to remove the pump on my BN1 after I rebuilt the engine and spin it up with 1/2" drill motor. Only takes about 30 seconds. Bill Lawrence > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:26:09 -0400 > From: rchaskell at earthlink.net > To: eyera3 at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pump > > It's my understanding that back in the day the water pump seal had to be > bedded in before installing the pump on the car. The pulley/shaft was > spun (say using the wire wheel on a bench grinder) dry for some period > of time. Just wondered if that should still be done and, if so, how. > > Bob Haskell > 3000 MkI registrar From javrugtman at htcnet.org Sun Jul 25 06:43:07 2010 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:43:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] off by 3/16" In-Reply-To: <731C9B65D73C4C88B8BB24C6C2577022@LeonardPCPC> References: <163874.35259.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <731C9B65D73C4C88B8BB24C6C2577022@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <4C4C315B.7030902@htcnet.org> Both my BJ8s, 64 and 66, have the two circlips and fit without a problem. John On 7/25/2010 12:22 AM, Len and/or Marge Hartnett wrote: > Don Day has a problem with his throttle linkage. He said he installed > the throttle shaft into the fire wall and then into the throttle > bracket that mounts to the intake manifold. His problem was the holes > don't line up with holes in the intake manifold. They were off by > 3/16". After contacting him and clarifying his problem, I found that > the throttle linkages on our BJ8s are different. On his car, > BJ8L42122, the throttle shaft is retained in the nylon bracket/bearing > by two circlips to control fore and aft movement. This is preventing > him from matching the holes in the nylon bracket and/or the bracket > bolted to the manifold. > > My BJ8, HBJ8L39031, has only one circlip which is on the end of the > shaft although there are two grooves in the shaft. On the other side > of the nylon bracket is a spacer about an inch long that is between > the nylon bracket and the lever that connects the control rod to the > carburetors thus preventing fore and aft movement. I suggested that > replacing the rearward circlip with an appropriate length spacer would > give him the adjustment that he needed to move the nylon bracket back > 3/16". > > Moss shows the two circlips in their catalog - no spacer. Do I have > an an odd ball installation or was there a change in design during > production? Does anyone else have the spacer on their BJ8? > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, CA, USA > 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 From healeyron at yahoo.com Sun Jul 25 07:10:02 2010 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... Message-ID: <447023.39794.qm@web32906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Dave <61healeybn7 at gmail.com> To: Ron Mitchell Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 3:40:11 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... Ron, Where did you get the rad re-cored? Somewhere in Michigan? Thanks, Dave M. BN7 Commerce Twp. ****************************** Dave, I had the Radiator recored at a shop in Burton Michigan. I won't state the name of the shop for fear someone will go there. I wouldn't recommend him. I picked up the Radiator the day before leaaving for Vermont. When installing it that afternoon I noticed the the header tank had some irregularities that were'nt there when I took it to him. Come to find out that there were some severe dents in the header tank that he had filled with bondo sanded and painted it Black. Upon trying to install it I found that the core was twisted and I could only install the top two fasteners and one lower one. The other side of the Rad was twisted an inch out of alignment. I had that fixed today when it was reversed flushed. The shop I was at today is 4 Seasons Radiator Repair in Madison Heights, Michigan. They come highly recommended. I was impressed with their service today. I took the Rad to them at 10:00 AM and walked out with it repaired an flushed at 10:30. Their price to recore my BN6 Rad with a promise of no damage to the header tank is $195 out the door. Forty dollars cheaper than the other shop in Burton charged me 5 years ago. Ron Mitchell ________________________________ From: Dave <61healeybn7 at gmail.com> To: Ron Mitchell Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 3:40:11 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... Ron, Where did you get the rad re-cored? Somewhere in Michigan? Thanks, Dave M. BN7 Commerce Twp. From healeyron at yahoo.com Sun Jul 25 07:29:54 2010 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <20100725065707.R45GG.187904.root@pamxwww05-z01> References: <20100725065707.R45GG.187904.root@pamxwww05-z01> Message-ID: <812034.22880.qm@web32904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Tom Felts To: Ron Mitchell Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 6:57:07 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... Understand. But, I don't think that is normal. When it is really hot out and I'm in S&G traffic, mine frequently gets to 212. I never have any OD problems when it does. What type of oil do you use in the tranny? I ust Redline MTL. ******************************************** Tom, I don't have any overheating problems in traffic. I can drive for hours in traffic and never get over 190. It's on the highway at speeds over 50 MPH that the temperature rises to 212 and stays there. In fact when driving in PA and climbing some of the steep inclines the temperature will rise to 230. The OD drops out after many hours on the Highway at posted speeds. I have no problem in city traffic. I use Valvoline 30 wt. non detergent racing oil in the tranny. Any idea on what the water pump pulley dia should be on a MkII 3000 BN7? Ron ________________________________ From warthodson at aol.com Sun Jul 25 07:42:51 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:42:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] off by 3/16" In-Reply-To: <731C9B65D73C4C88B8BB24C6C2577022@LeonardPCPC> References: <163874.35259.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <731C9B65D73C4C88B8BB24C6C2577022@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <8CCFA166917A55B-1964-21BC9@webmail-m067.sysops.aol.com> My BJ8 Phase I had the two clips. What makes Don's problem baffelling is that his was installed correctly (presumable including the two clips) before he disassembled it. Upon reassembly it won't fit! Clearly something has changed, but what? Don, are any of the components you used for reassembly not the originals off your car? were the motor mount pedestals on the frame mofified/altered/repositioned for any reason? Are you using the original intake manifold? My friend that had the same problem (but a new frame) fixed the problem by cutting approx. 3/16" off the the end of the throttle shaft from the end at the fire wall which allowed the groves in the shaft to correctly line up with the nylon front bearing. He then had the shaft replated. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Len and/or Marge Hartnett To: Healey Mail List Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 11:22 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] off by 3/16" original Don Day has a problem with his throttle linkage. He said he installed the throttle shaft into the fire wall and then into the throttle bracket that mounts to the intake manifold. His problem was the holes don't line up with holes in the intake manifold. They were off by 3/16". After contacting him and clarifying his problem, I found that the throttle linkages on our BJ8s are different. On his car, BJ8L42122, the throttle shaft is retained in the nylon bracket/bearing by two circlips to control fore and aft movement. This is preventing him from matching the holes in the nylon bracket and/or the bracket bolted to the manifold. My BJ8, HBJ8L39031, has only one circlip which is on the end of the shaft although there are two grooves in the shaft. On the other side of the nylon bracket is a spacer about an inch long that is between the nylon bracket and the lever that connects the control rod to the carburetors thus preventing fore and aft movement. I suggested that replacing the rearward circlip with an appropriate length spacer would give him the adjustment that he needed to move the nylon bracket back 3/16". Moss shows the two circlips in their catalog - no spacer. Do I have an an odd ball installation or was there a change in design during production? Does anyone else have the spacer on their BJ8? (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com From jagwarman at gmail.com Sun Jul 25 09:41:00 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:41:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey Message-ID: I have a bj8 as well that has heating issues as well but mine is in traffic. I run the texas cooler and it helps a great deal on the highway however not worth much in town. Some things I found were electric fans only really work well when you install it behind the radiator a a pull fan with a sensor to turn it on and off. Also you have to remove the water pump fan or it works against the electric fan. But the good side is you gain power when you remove the water pump fan. I often wondered about mounting a fan under the engine sump to remove the heat from the engine compartment cause this is part of the problem. Next problem is don't trust your gauge they are almost always off showing the car to run hot. The fans withe s shaped blades tend to draw more air as well. Hopefully this may help some of you. From gmandas at yahoo.com Sun Jul 25 11:19:11 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] off by 3/16" Message-ID: <838718.85403.qm@web56101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Let's look at the other end. Could the problem be the bracket, moss part #121, p.44 spring/summer 2010 catalogue, holding #79. On my 65 phase 2 the bracket holds #79 bearing, Which looks more like a gromet, 1 inch from the firewall. Also on mine there is a brass bushing on the linkage between the lever arm and #79. This bushing slides in and out of #79 as I move the linkage fore and aft. Don't ask why my linkage moves fore and aft so much. On mine the nylon bracket broke and there must not have been any available because what's there is the remanents of some shadetree handywork. Greg Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. On Jul 25, 2010, at 12:22 AM, "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" wrote: Don Day has a problem with his throttle linkage. He said he installed the throttle shaft into the fire wall and then into the throttle bracket that mounts to the intake manifold. His problem was the holes don't line up with holes in the intake manifold. They were off by 3/16". After contacting him and clarifying his problem, I found that the throttle linkages on our BJ8s are different. On his car, BJ8L42122, the throttle shaft is retained in the nylon bracket/bearing by two circlips to control fore and aft movement. This is preventing him from matching the holes in the nylon bracket and/or the bracket bolted to the manifold. My BJ8, HBJ8L39031, has only one circlip which is on the end of the shaft although there are two grooves in the shaft. On the other side of the nylon bracket is a spacer about an inch long that is between the nylon bracket and the lever that connects the control rod to the carburetors thus preventing fore and aft movement. I suggested that replacing the rearward circlip with an appropriate length spacer would give him the adjustment that he needed to move the nylon bracket back 3/16". Moss shows the two circlips in their catalog - no spacer. Do I have an an odd ball installation or was there a change in design during production? Does anyone else have the spacer on their BJ8? (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jul 25 11:56:53 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:56:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> All this fan talk has made me curious: how much does an oil cooler help to reduce engine temps? bs Frederich Ficke wrote: > I have a bj8 as well that has heating issues as well but mine is in traffic. > I run the texas cooler and it helps a great deal on the highway however not > worth much in town. > Some things I found were electric fans only really work well when you > install it behind the radiator a a pull fan with a sensor to turn it on and > off. Also you have to remove the water pump fan or it works against the > electric fan. But the good side is you gain power when you remove the water > pump fan. I often wondered about mounting a fan under the engine sump to > remove the heat from the engine compartment cause this is part of the > problem. Next problem is don't trust your gauge they are almost always off > showing the car to run hot. > The fans withe s shaped blades tend to draw more air as well. > Hopefully this may help some of you. > _______________________________________________ > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From haywoodone at hotmail.com Sun Jul 25 12:53:42 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:53:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sat. Post Conclave Adventure, Final Leg Message-ID: This AM we awakened with the realization that today would be the final day of our journey, then back to our normal life. We went outside to be hit in the face with very warm humid air. It was already approaching 80 deg so we elected to leave the top up and boy am I glad we did. The temps blew right thru the 80's straight into the high 90's and very humid (welcome back to the East). We left Abingdon, Va on Hwy 58 E and drove thru some beautiful twisty curvy mountain roads over to Damascus, Va then turned S on Hwy 16 toward Jefferson, NC. Any of you living in that area of NC or Va should take this drive on Hwy 58, you won't be sorry. There was a lot of bicycling going on Sat. with stands on the roadside serving cold beverages to cyclers, some kind of local event I guess. Also it is popular to have your bike (and you) shuttled up the mountain and you ride down thru mountain trails. That part of the road is called "The Virginia Creepers Trail". Hwy 16 in NC follows alongside of the New River for a while and we came upon Zaloo's Canoes who offers trips down the river. We saw groups of green tubes (which they rent also) floating down just having a great and cool time--felt like pulling over and high jacking one. Continuing down 16 to Wilkesboro we turned onto Hwy 421 to return home by the same route we began. I am a little less enthusiastic recording this leg of the trip as we have driven it several times before and it is the end. Having driven other routes heading this way however we feel this is the most scenic less congested path to take from Wilkesboro to the east coast of NC. In Yadkinville we headed S on 601 to Salisbury. I mean it is scorching HOT now. It was time for lunch so we looked for a shaded parking place with a restaurant attached, an Appleby's fit the bill so in we went for coolness and an incidental meal. See Part 2 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From haywoodone at hotmail.com Sun Jul 25 12:55:42 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:55:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sat. Post Conclave Adventure Final Pt.2 Message-ID: After lunch we gassed up for the final time and headed out with a fresh stock of Gatorade in our cooler. We got onto Hwy 52 and traveled to Albemarle, NC. Didn't see Kellie Pickler there again so we continued on after turning onto Hwy 24 E. Things were getting hotter by the minute but we spotted some clouds in the distance that looked like maybe a storm was brewing. You won't often hear me say that a storm is a welcome sight while driving the Healey but today is one of those days. Outside of Fayetteville the rains came cooling things down nicely, what a relief, some close lightening and a few cracks of thunder made things exciting. This lasted for a good while but ended just before entering Fayetteville. It was a little hot thru town but as the sun was setting and the remaining clouds blocked some rays it was pleasant for the rest of the drive home. We pulled into our driveway @ around 8PM and bedded down our trusty steed in his stall ending another wonderful Healey Adventure. We had a great time, had very little difficulty, and are looking forward to another trip in Sept. I would like to thank everyone who responded to us along the way. You have been too kind struggling thru my ramblings, it was as much fun reading your responses as it was documenting our daily journey. Take care, George & Sherry Haywood _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From banjojohn at cox.net Sun Jul 25 13:04:37 2010 From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:04:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <812034.22880.qm@web32904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20100725065707.R45GG.187904.root@pamxwww05-z01> <812034.22880.qm@web32904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Perhaps this is not related at all to your problem, but when I bought my BJ8 in '01, I didn't notice that the PO had removed the air deflector assembly from the front of the radiator. I never noticed any problem until I set off on a cross country drive across Iowa on a hot July day. I got 40 or 50 miles from home, and it began overheating terribly. It took the rest of the day to nurse it back home, driving short distances and stopping to refill the radiator. I ordered and installed the air deflector assembly and I never have an overheating problem. Without that in place, the air flows around the radiator rather that through it. John O'Brien '61 bugeye '65 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:30 AM To: Tom Felts Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... From: Tom Felts To: Ron Mitchell Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 6:57:07 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... Understand. But, I don't think that is normal. When it is really hot out and I'm in S&G traffic, mine frequently gets to 212. I never have any OD problems when it does. What type of oil do you use in the tranny? I ust Redline MTL. ******************************************** Tom, I don't have any overheating problems in traffic. I can drive for hours in traffic and never get over 190. It's on the highway at speeds over 50 MPH that the temperature rises to 212 and stays there. In fact when driving in PA and climbing some of the steep inclines the temperature will rise to 230. The OD drops out after many hours on the Highway at posted speeds. I have no problem in city traffic. I use Valvoline 30 wt. non detergent racing oil in the tranny. Any idea on what the water pump pulley dia should be on a MkII 3000 BN7? Ron ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/banjojohn at cox.net From healeyron at yahoo.com Sun Jul 25 13:29:33 2010 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: References: <20100725065707.R45GG.187904.root@pamxwww05-z01> <812034.22880.qm@web32904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <103028.75901.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My deflectors are still in place & correctly fitted. Ron ________________________________ From: John O'Brien To: Ron Mitchell ; Tom Felts Cc: Healeys Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 3:04:37 PM Subject: RE: [Healeys] still too hot... Perhaps this is not related at all to your problem, but when I bought my BJ8 in '01, I didn't notice that the PO had removed the air deflector assembly from the front of the radiator. I never noticed any problem until I set off on a cross country drive across Iowa on a hot July day. I got 40 or 50 miles from home, and it began overheating terribly. It took the rest of the day to nurse it back home, driving short distances and stopping to refill the radiator. I ordered and installed the air deflector assembly and I never have an overheating problem. Without that in place, the air flows around the radiator rather that through it. John O'Brien '61 bugeye '65 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:30 AM To: Tom Felts Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... From: Tom Felts To: Ron Mitchell Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 6:57:07 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... Understand. But, I don't think that is normal. When it is really hot out and I'm in S&G traffic, mine frequently gets to 212. I never have any OD problems when it does. What type of oil do you use in the tranny? I ust Redline MTL. ******************************************** Tom, I don't have any overheating problems in traffic. I can drive for hours in traffic and never get over 190. It's on the highway at speeds over 50 MPH that the temperature rises to 212 and stays there. In fact when driving in PA and climbing some of the steep inclines the temperature will rise to 230. The OD drops out after many hours on the Highway at posted speeds. I have no problem in city traffic. I use Valvoline 30 wt. non detergent racing oil in the tranny. Any idea on what the water pump pulley dia should be on a MkII 3000 BN7? Ron ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/banjojohn at cox.net From jagwarman at gmail.com Sun Jul 25 13:30:50 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:30:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] oil cooler Message-ID: You don"t want to put a oil cooler on a big Healey. I tried and the engine compartment stays so hot that it actually hurts your oil pressure , unless you want to cut a hole in your shroud and mount the cooler where it gets direct air. But who really wants to do that? My mother actually had a BJ8 new in 67 and she said it always ran hot even when new and that driving it in Austin Texas heat. Shoot they even towed other cars with the healey she had. Now that was back in the day. LOL From warthodson at aol.com Sun Jul 25 14:29:50 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:29:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Original unrestored Sprite Message-ID: <8CCFA4F44280A55-12C8-39BDA@webmail-d029.sysops.aol.com> There is a uniquely original 1969 Sprite MK IV for sale in the Healey Marque & the Austin Healey Magazine. 1140 miles & truely rust free & 100% original. A true time capsule. The Sprite Concours guys should document this car while it is available. Gary Hodson From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 25 14:33:56 2010 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <103028.75901.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20100725065707.R45GG.187904.root@pamxwww05-z01> <812034.22880.qm@web32904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <103028.75901.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <855480.56656.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Ron, I'm enjoying the dialogue regaarding the engine temperature on your tri-carb. I sincerly hope a definitive answer surfaces. My BT7 Tri-carb has had the same issue for years. I run fine in town or at moderate highway speeds, but get it above 65 MPH andthere goes the temperature. On some longdistance runs I've run for hours at above 212, No problems but I just don't like it. It definitely is worse on a sunny day, of course my car is black so it maybe absorbing heat from the sun. Your car is white so there is a difference. On my radiator shrouding I've addedsealent to prevent any air from getting around the radiator, helps but not significant. I do not have OD issues, running Redline. Good luck solving the heat and please share the result. Bob ________________________________ From: Ron Mitchell healeyron at yahoo.com My deflectors are still in place & correctly fitted. Ron ________________________________ From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Jul 25 14:37:17 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:37:17 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey In-Reply-To: <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> References: <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C4CA07D.40307@chello.nl> Depends on the oil cooler, but it will reduce engine temperatures. Kees Oudesluijs NL Bob Spidell wrote: > All this fan talk has made me curious: how much does an oil cooler > help to reduce engine temps? > > bs From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Jul 25 14:41:46 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:41:46 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] oil cooler In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C4CA18A.8070301@chello.nl> What is the use of an oil cooler if you position it next to the engine? It should be put in front of the radiator in a direct cold airflow. Kees Oudesluijs NL Frederich Ficke wrote: > You don"t want to put a oil cooler on a big Healey. I tried and the engine > compartment stays so hot that it actually hurts your oil pressure , unless > you want to cut a hole in your shroud and mount the cooler where it gets > direct air. But who really wants to do that? > My mother actually had a BJ8 new in 67 and she said it always ran hot even > when new and that driving it in Austin Texas heat. Shoot they even towed > other cars with the healey she had. Now that was back in the day. LOL > _______________________________________________ From jagwarman at gmail.com Sun Jul 25 14:51:18 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:51:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] oil cooler Message-ID: I totally agree in front of the radiator however, routing is part of the issue as well. Thats why I said below the radiator where it wont obstruct air flow into the radiator. If there were a way to get the heat out of the engine compartment these cars most likely wouldn't overheat and the oil wouldn't thin down either. The cars just had a poor design for the engine bay. They look to have plenty of room but the heat can't get out. I louvered my hood and that helped a lot however that created new issues such as driving in the rain and your distributor drowns . So in conclusion fix one thing and create another problem.... From CAWS52803 at aol.com Sun Jul 25 15:01:49 2010 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:01:49 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Sat. Post Conclave Adventure Final Pt.2 Message-ID: <69987.205b3d5d.397e003d@aol.com> George & Sherry, Thank you so much for the wonderful opportunity to share this journey with you. Hopefully we can join you on one of these. Rudy & Carol Streng Lenoir, NC 57 BN4 60 AN5 From jagwarman at gmail.com Sun Jul 25 15:13:07 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:13:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] New BJ8 Message-ID: Lets see Mom bought the BJ8 at Contenintal cars in Austin Texas in 67 it was Red and Black two tone with red interior number probably unknown unless she has a record I will ask her when I see her on Wednesday. She paid $3995.00 for it . It came without a heater and that was option . It had overdrive I still have pics of it I believe maybe license plate could be traced I will look for the pic and get back to you. She did have a wreck in it where it damaged the front driver fender and that was replaced in 69. From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sun Jul 25 16:04:42 2010 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:04:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey In-Reply-To: <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> References: <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob: I installed an oil cooler many years ago. It was not an 'official' model but the largest I could install in front of the radiator without blocking the radiator too much. I installed temp sending units in the oil pan for engine oil temp and in the return line from the cooler. Temperature drop was 5 degrees. No noticable difference on the Healey temp gauge. For me and my installation, not worth the effort. Took it all out. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Frederich Ficke" Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overheating Healey > All this fan talk has made me curious: how much does an oil cooler help to > reduce engine temps? > > bs From warthodson at aol.com Sun Jul 25 16:59:44 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:59:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey In-Reply-To: References: <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CCFA64353B9B1B-7B4-27C4@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> For an oil cooler to be as affective as possible the heat it removes should not be added back into the heat the radiator must deal with. I just got into this discussion, so I hope the following is not a repeat. There are many ways to improve the Healey cooling. Some are simple such as: Make sure you are using a thermostat that includes a bypass blocking sleeve or install a fixed sleeve to stop the flow from bypassing (the radiator). In lieu of using a 50/50 mix of anti-freeze, use 10-15% antifreeze & 90-85% water. You will be protected down to something like 10 degrees F. If that is not enough, increase the percentage in the winter. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Len and/or Marge Hartnett To: Healey Mail List Sent: Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:04 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overheating Healey Bob: I installed an oil cooler many years ago. It was not an 'official' model but the largest I could install in front of the radiator without blocking the radiator too much. I installed temp sending units in the oil pan for engine oil temp and in the return line from the cooler. Temperature drop was 5 degrees. No noticable difference on the Healey temp gauge. For me and my installation, not worth the effort. Took it all out. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Frederich Ficke" Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overheating Healey > All this fan talk has made me curious: how much does an oil cooler help to > reduce engine temps? > > bs _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com From healeyron at yahoo.com Sun Jul 25 17:05:04 2010 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <855480.56656.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <20100725065707.R45GG.187904.root@pamxwww05-z01> <812034.22880.qm@web32904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <103028.75901.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <855480.56656.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <316175.57088.qm@web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Bob, I'm enjoying it too. Everyone is addressing everything that I have already tried but none has come up with an answer to what the dia. of the water pump pulley should be??? I assume no one has found my chair? I'm hoping the Distributor rebuild will be the answer. If the problem ever gets solved I will definately report back with the cure. Really enjoyed you clubs Conclave. Ron ________________________________ From: Bob Brown To: Healeys Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 4:33:56 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... Ron, I'm enjoying the dialogue regaarding the engine temperature on your tri-carb. I sincerly hope a definitive answer surfaces. My BT7 Tri-carb has had the same issue for years. I run fine in town or at moderate highway speeds, but get it above 65 MPH andthere goes the temperature. On some longdistance runs I've run for hours at above 212, No problems but I just don't like it. It definitely is worse on a sunny day, of course my car is black so it maybe absorbing heat from the sun. Your car is white so there is a difference. On my radiator shrouding I've addedsealent to prevent any air from getting around the radiator, helps but not significant. I do not have OD issues, running Redline. Good luck solving the heat and please share the result. Bob ________________________________ From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 25 19:09:38 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:09:38 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] off by 3/16" In-Reply-To: <838718.85403.qm@web56101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <838718.85403.qm@web56101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Greg - That's what the two circlips are for use with the throttle shaft in the nylon bracket. It is smart to purchase two nylon brackets, keep one in your glovebox as a spare just in case the one on the intake manifold breaks. Incidentally, the slop in your throttle is potentially very very bad - you don't want your throttle stuck wide open, you can fry your motor or pull a Prius unless you know what you are doing. Incidentally, I recommend to all that the throttle linkage on your cars should absolutely positively be completely sorted per factory / shop manual with all slop taken out - depending on the car's condition it'll take somewhere between an hour to 4 hours - and you will be shocked at how much power your car has at full throttle. Alan On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Greg Mandas wrote: > Let's look at the other end. Could the problem be the bracket, moss part > #121, p.44 spring/summer 2010 catalogue, holding #79. On my 65 phase 2 the > bracket holds #79 bearing, Which looks more like a gromet, 1 inch from the > firewall. Also on mine there is a brass bushing on the linkage between the > lever arm and #79. This bushing slides in and out of #79 as I move the > linkage fore and aft. > > Don't ask why my linkage moves fore and aft so much. On mine the nylon > bracket broke and there must not have been any available because what's > there is the remanents of some shadetree handywork. > > Greg > > Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. From gmandas at yahoo.com Sun Jul 25 19:35:46 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] off by 3/16" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <136161.15237.qm@web56101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Naw, I think I'm OK. When the nylon bushing broke the previous owner welded a nut on top of the choke cable retaining bracket. What could be wrong with that? It'll never break. Wink WInk. Thanks Alan. I'll get right on it. Greg --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Alan Seigrist wrote: From: Alan Seigrist Subject: Re: [Healeys] off by 3/16" To: "Greg Mandas" Cc: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" , "Healey Mail List" Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 9:09 PM Greg - That's what the two circlips are for use with the throttle shaft in the nylon bracket. It is smart to purchase two nylon brackets, keep one in your glovebox as a spare just in case the one on the intake manifold breaks. Incidentally, the slop in your throttle is potentially very very bad - you don't want your throttle stuck wide open, you can fry your motor or pull a Prius unless you know what you are doing. Incidentally, I recommend to all that the throttle linkage on your cars should absolutely positively be completely sorted per factory / shop manual with all slop taken out - depending on the car's condition it'll take somewhere between an hour to 4 hours - and you will be shocked at how much power your car has at full throttle. Alan From wilkmanracing at aol.com Sun Jul 25 20:36:18 2010 From: wilkmanracing at aol.com (wilkmanracing at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:36:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <316175.57088.qm@web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20100725065707.R45GG.187904.root@pamxwww05-z01><812034.22880.qm@web32904.mail.mud.yahoo.com><103028.75901.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com><855480.56656.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <316175.57088.qm@web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CCFA82761EC6F3-1234-26E20@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> This whole running hot things seems to be a process of chasing little things. My MGA ran hot after its rebuild. It ran hot before its rebuild, but it had an excuse then...the engine was full of crud and the radiator needed to be recored. I ended up doing several things, including: 1. Installing a shroud (from Moss) around the water pump fan/radiator core. 2. Installing a piece of fiber material (from Moss) to the underside of the bonnet to keep the air from passing over the top of the radiator. (The factory piece had fallen off long ago.) 3. Installing a restrictor sleeve (from Moss) in in the thermostat housing to replicate the effect of the earlier bellows style thermostats. 4. Installing insulating foam rubber (from Home Depot) between the forward radiator shroud and the radiator body to keep air from flowing past the radiator in that area. The combination of these remedies seemed to do the trick. Bill Wilkman BT7 and a bunch of other British cars. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Mitchell To: Bob Brown ; Healeys Sent: Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:05 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... Bob, I'm enjoying it too. Everyone is addressing everything that I have already tried but none has come up with an answer to what the dia. of the water pump pulley should be??? I assume no one has found my chair? I'm hoping the Distributor rebuild will be the answer. If the problem ever gets solved I will definately report back with the cure. Really enjoyed you clubs Conclave. Ron ________________________________ From: Bob Brown To: Healeys Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 4:33:56 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... Ron, I'm enjoying the dialogue regaarding the engine temperature on your tri-carb. I sincerly hope a definitive answer surfaces. My BT7 Tri-carb has had the same issue for years. I run fine in town or at moderate highway speeds, but get it above 65 MPH andthere goes the temperature. On some longdistance runs I've run for hours at above 212, No problems but I just don't like it. It definitely is worse on a sunny day, of course my car is black so it maybe absorbing heat from the sun. Your car is white so there is a difference. On my radiator shrouding I've addedsealent to prevent any air from getting around the radiator, helps but not significant. I do not have OD issues, running Redline. Good luck solving the heat and please share the result. Bob ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/wilkmanracing at aol.com From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jul 25 20:46:49 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:46:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey In-Reply-To: <8CCFA64353B9B1B-7B4-27C4@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> References: <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> <8CCFA64353B9B1B-7B4-27C4@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C4CF719.7050802@comcast.net> Do 100s have the coolant bypass in the head? Bob warthodson at aol.com wrote: > For an oil cooler to be as affective as possible the heat it removes should > not be added back into the heat the radiator must deal with. > I just got into this discussion, so I hope the following is not a repeat. > There are many ways to improve the Healey cooling. Some are simple such as: > Make sure you are using a thermostat that includes a bypass blocking sleeve or > install a fixed sleeve to stop the flow from bypassing (the radiator). > In lieu of using a 50/50 mix of anti-freeze, use 10-15% antifreeze & 90-85% > water. You will be protected down to something like 10 degrees F. If that is > not enough, increase the percentage in the winter. > Gary Hodson > > > > > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 25 22:24:27 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:24:27 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey In-Reply-To: <4C4CF719.7050802@comcast.net> References: <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> <8CCFA64353B9B1B-7B4-27C4@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> <4C4CF719.7050802@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob - No they don't. Alan On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Do 100s have the coolant bypass in the head? > > Bob From healeyron at yahoo.com Mon Jul 26 06:14:02 2010 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] [Healeys} still too hot Message-ID: <891068.9629.qm@web32903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Ken, That is why I am rebuilding the Distributor today to make sure the pivots aren't too loose which could be preventing the specified centrifical advance of 35 degrees. Any idea on what the Water Pump Pulley dia should be for a 1962 MkII 3000? See you at Encounter I hope. Ron ________________________________ From: ah To: Ron Mitchell ; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 7:21:55 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... Ron: Check your timing at total advance. Run the engine to 2500 or so and see what your timing is. Total should be around 32 degrees adv. Above 36 is pushing it Ken BEck From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jul 26 06:55:14 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:55:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] off by 3/16" In-Reply-To: References: <838718.85403.qm@web56101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <83544EF760724653BE8A01A964B23256@LIFEBOOK> I would also add that you should make sure there is no load or torque placed on the throttle bracket when at rest. It's that incorrect preload of torque on the nylon bracket that will shorten it's life. Rich -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Seigrist" Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:09 PM To: "Greg Mandas" Cc: ; "Mail List" Subject: Re: [Healeys] off by 3/16" > Greg - > > That's what the two circlips are for use with the throttle shaft in the > nylon bracket. It is smart to purchase two nylon brackets, keep one in > your > glovebox as a spare just in case the one on the intake manifold breaks. > Incidentally, the slop in your throttle is potentially very very bad - you > don't want your throttle stuck wide open, you can fry your motor or pull a > Prius unless you know what you are doing. > > Incidentally, I recommend to all that the throttle linkage on your cars > should absolutely positively be completely sorted per factory / shop > manual > with all slop taken out - depending on the car's condition it'll take > somewhere between an hour to 4 hours - and you will be shocked at how much > power your car has at full throttle. > > Alan From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jul 26 07:03:34 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:03:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] [Healeys} still too hot In-Reply-To: <891068.9629.qm@web32903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <891068.9629.qm@web32903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0B21F7DD8C8E43668DC4319A86F418A7@LIFEBOOK> Hi Ron, It's the 4 1/2" pulley, 3/8" wide that should be on your Mk 2. The larger pulley was on the earlier 100/Six engines. Rich -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Mitchell" Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:14 AM To: Cc: "Austin Healey List" Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Healeys} still too hot > Thanks Ken, > > That is why I am rebuilding the Distributor today to make sure > the pivots aren't > too loose which could be preventing the specified > centrifical advance of 35 > degrees. > > Any idea on what the Water Pump Pulley > dia should be for a 1962 MkII 3000? > > See you at Encounter I hope. > Ron > ________________________________ > From: ah > To: Ron Mitchell > ; healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 7:21:55 > AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... > > Ron: Check your timing at total > advance. Run the engine to 2500 or so and > see what your timing is. Total > should be around 32 degrees adv. Above 36 is > pushing it > > Ken BEck > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From healeyron at yahoo.com Mon Jul 26 09:54:59 2010 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] [Healeys} still too hot In-Reply-To: <0B21F7DD8C8E43668DC4319A86F418A7@LIFEBOOK> References: <891068.9629.qm@web32903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0B21F7DD8C8E43668DC4319A86F418A7@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <929980.41338.qm@web32904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Rich, I knew sooner or later you would come up with the correct answer. The reason for the question originally was that my 100-6 does have the larger pulley. The one I took off the MkII 3000 has the 4 1/2 in pulley. Just wanted to confirm that one of the P.O. hadn't replaced the water pump with the wrong one. May I ask where you found the info? I searched all my manuals and coundn't come up with pulley diameters for the various years and model. Thanks for your input Ron ________________________________ From: Rich C To: Ron Mitchell ; kbeck100 at rcn.com Cc: Austin Healey List Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 9:03:34 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Healeys} still too hot Hi Ron, It's the 4 1/2" pulley, 3/8" wide that should be on your Mk 2. The larger pulley was on the earlier 100/Six engines. Rich -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Mitchell" Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:14 AM To: Cc: "Austin Healey List" Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Healeys} still too hot > Thanks Ken, > > That is why I am rebuilding the Distributor today to make sure > the pivots aren't > too loose which could be preventing the specified > centrifical advance of 35 > degrees. > > Any idea on what the Water Pump Pulley > dia should be for a 1962 MkII 3000? > > See you at Encounter I hope. > Ron > ________________________________ > From: ah > To: Ron Mitchell > ; healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 7:21:55 > AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... > > Ron: Check your timing at total > advance. Run the engine to 2500 or so and > see what your timing is. Total > should be around 32 degrees adv. Above 36 is > pushing it > > Ken BEck > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From jeff at pellfam.com Mon Jul 26 16:40:25 2010 From: jeff at pellfam.com (Jeff Pelletier) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:40:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel guage In-Reply-To: <442328.44030.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150483@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> <442328.44030.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E15048F@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Guys, Is there any way to find out who the culprit is for a bad read on my temperature gauge.. How do I know if it's the gauge or the sending unit... I basically read full when full then about 1/4 - 1/2 for just about any other time..!!... Thanks Jp From jpayne at ThorCon.net Mon Jul 26 16:58:15 2010 From: jpayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:58:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel guage In-Reply-To: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E15048F@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150483@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> <442328.44030.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E15048F@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Message-ID: If you have a multimeter 1. Check for 12v at the sending unit through ground 2. Check for 12v at the gauge itself through ground 3. Check continuity between gauge and sending unit. 3 If all that works, it could be internal to the sending unit. you can pull the sending unit and Using Ohmmeter, test the resistance through the float's travel when moving by hand. Jonas Payne Director of Preconstruction Thor Construction PH: (702) 269-2007 Fax: (702) 269-7095 Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Pelletier Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:40 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Fuel guage Guys, Is there any way to find out who the culprit is for a bad read on my temperature gauge.. How do I know if it's the gauge or the sending unit... I basically read full when full then about 1/4 - 1/2 for just about any other time..!!... Thanks Jp _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jpayne at thorcon.net "This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender(s) at (702) 269-2007 and delete all copies from your system. It is not the intent of the sender to solicit any person or business. Please note that any opinions in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thor Construction, Incorporated. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage or loss caused by any virus transmitted by this email." From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 26 17:47:06 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:47:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel guage In-Reply-To: References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150483@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> <442328.44030.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E15048F@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Message-ID: <4C4E1E7A.5010307@justbrits.com> << 3 If all that works, it could be internal to the sending unit. you can pull the sending unit and Using Ohmmeter, test the resistance through the float's travel when moving by hand. >> but Jonas, HOW would you do dat when Jeff asks: " Is there any way to find out who the culprit is for a bad read on my temperature gauge. " And of course I am VERY curious just how: [Jeff wrote] : " I basically read full when full then about 1/4 - 1/2 for just about any other time..!!..." The "temp" gauge tells how full the radiator is ??? New fangled stuff -:( !! "The Early Enquirer" From jpayne at ThorCon.net Mon Jul 26 18:30:26 2010 From: jpayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:30:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel guage In-Reply-To: <4C4E1E7A.5010307@justbrits.com> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150483@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> <442328.44030.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E15048F@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> <4C4E1E7A.5010307@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Assumed he was referring to fuel gauge. If not, disregard. Jonas Payne "This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender(s) at (702) 269-2007 and delete all copies from your system. It is not the intent of the sender to solicit any person or business. Please note that any opinions in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thor Construction, Incorporated. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage or loss caused by any virus transmitted by this email." From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Mon Jul 26 18:32:02 2010 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:32:02 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey In-Reply-To: <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> References: , <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> Message-ID: I cannot tell you exactly how much cooler an engine will run with an oil cooler, but it will help. Also, your engine will run cooler if you use synthetic oil. A word of warning about oil coolers. When you start up a cold engine the oil is quite thick and it does not like to be forced through that restrictive oil cooler. Engines like warm oil and race engines like hot oil to make power. If you plan on using an oil cooler you should think about plumbing in a bypass thermostat so that when the oil is cold it bypasses the cooler. Only when the oil gets hot enough does the thermostat open and allow the oil to go through the cooler. You can buy these through any of the racers stores. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon > Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:56:53 -0700 > From: bspidell at comcast.net > To: jagwarman at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overheating Healey > > All this fan talk has made me curious: how much does an oil cooler help > to reduce engine temps? > > bs > > > > Frederich Ficke wrote: > > I have a bj8 as well that has heating issues as well but mine is in traffic. > > I run the texas cooler and it helps a great deal on the highway however not > > worth much in town. > > Some things I found were electric fans only really work well when you > > install it behind the radiator a a pull fan with a sensor to turn it on and > > off. Also you have to remove the water pump fan or it works against the > > electric fan. But the good side is you gain power when you remove the water > > pump fan. I often wondered about mounting a fan under the engine sump to > > remove the heat from the engine compartment cause this is part of the > > problem. Next problem is don't trust your gauge they are almost always off > > showing the car to run hot. > > The fans withe s shaped blades tend to draw more air as well. > > Hopefully this may help some of you. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com From jeff at pellfam.com Mon Jul 26 19:06:12 2010 From: jeff at pellfam.com (Jeff Pelletier) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:06:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel guage In-Reply-To: <1875260316-1280188558-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1642068247-@bda2091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150483@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local><442328.44030.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com><996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E15048F@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> <1875260316-1280188558-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1642068247-@bda2091.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150490@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> My bad. So much talk about temp I screwed up. I meant fuel gauge. Thanks for the help. Ill get out sending unit and the ohm meter. And no smoking!! Thanks Jp : 271.1.1/3029 - Release Date: 07/26/10 02:36:00 From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Jul 26 20:09:33 2010 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:09:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey In-Reply-To: References: , <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> Message-ID: One element that hasn't yet been posted is the use of a closed cooling system. A closed system with a return tank raises the boiling temp and allows for better cooling and coolant retention. Wilko San Diego From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 26 20:57:32 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:57:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey In-Reply-To: References: , <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C4E4B1C.8060703@comcast.net> re: "A closed system with a return tank raises the boiling temp" How? bs Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > One element that hasn't yet been posted is the use of a closed cooling > system. A closed system with a return tank raises the boiling temp and > allows for better cooling and coolant retention. > > Wilko > San Diego ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 26 21:09:22 2010 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:09:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] water pump - modern reason In-Reply-To: <000301cb2a0d$e9335cf0$bb9a16d0$@rr.com> References: <154479.8097.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <000301cb2a0d$e9335cf0$bb9a16d0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20100726200726.02079008@pop.att.yahoo.com> I recently replaced a water pump on a 1987 El Camino because the water pump was leaking through a similar hole. The mechanic told me that when the seal went bad it would leak from a similar hole. John At 10:22 PM 7/22/2010 -0400, BJ8 Healeys wrote: >Greg, my water pump has a similar hole. It does look like the casting is >broken out and ragged. I've seen others like that and I've often wondered >why it was made that way. My pump has been pumping for years with that hole >and nothing has ever come out of it. No grease is necessary. > >Steve Byers >HBJ8L/36666 >BJ8 Registry >Havelock, NC USA From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Jul 26 21:41:05 2010 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:41:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey In-Reply-To: <4C4E4B1C.8060703@comcast.net> References: <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> <4C4E4B1C.8060703@comcast.net> Message-ID: A surge tank system doesn't actually raise the boiling point, but it does ensure that the entire radiator is full, and doesn't have an air space at the top. This makes sure you are using 100% of the radiator capacity. Because you don't lose coolant, you don't add water, and that helps to prevent corrosion. Which again works to keep the car cooler. Surge tank systems rock. I put one on my last MGB, I got a flat cap off an Austin American radiator cap that had no pressure retaining properties, it was just a flat cap with a rubber gasket on the inside. I ran a hose from the radiator overflow to the bottom a surge bottle off of a Volvo 140 which I installed using the Volvo bracket on the radiator shroud. The pressure cap on the top of the surge tank was a standard unit off the shelf at the local parts store. Hope this helps Rick On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > re: "A closed system with a return tank raises the boiling temp" > > How? > > > bs > > > Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > >> One element that hasn't yet been posted is the use of a closed cooling >> system. A closed system with a return tank raises the boiling temp and >> allows for better cooling and coolant retention. >> >> Wilko >> San Diego >> > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Jul 26 21:41:50 2010 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:41:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey (closed system) In-Reply-To: <4C4E4B1C.8060703@comcast.net> References: , <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> <4C4E4B1C.8060703@comcast.net> Message-ID: As coolant gets hot, it expands. Since the cooling system is sealed, this expansion causes an increase in pressure in the cooling system, which is normal and part of the design. When coolant is under pressure, the temperature where the liquid begins to boil is considerably higher. This pressure, coupled with the higher boiling point of ethylene glycol, allows the coolant to safely reach temperatures in excess of 250 degrees. The radiator pressure cap is a simple device that will maintain pressure in the cooling system up to a certain point. If the pressure builds up higher than the set pressure point, there is a spring loaded valve, calibrated to the correct Pounds per Square Inch (psi), to release the pressure. When the cooling system pressure reaches the point where the cap needs to release this excess pressure, a small amount of coolant is bled off. It could happen during stop and go traffic on an extremely hot day, or if the cooling system is malfunctioning. If it does release pressure under these conditions, there is a system in place to capture the released coolant and store it in a plastic tank that is usually not pressurized. Since there is now less coolant in the system, as the engine cools down a partial vacuum is formed. The radiator cap on these closed systems has a secondary valve to allow the vacuum in the cooling system to draw the coolant back into the radiator from the reserve tank (like pulling the plunger back on a hypodermic needle) There are usually markings on the side of the plastic tank marked Full- Cold, and Full Hot. When the engine is at normal operating temperature, the coolant in the translucent reserve tank should be up to the Full-Hot line. After the engine has been sitting for several hours and is cold to the touch, the coolant should be at the Full-Cold line. On Jul 26, 2010, at 7:57 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > re: "A closed system with a return tank raises the boiling temp" > > How? > > > bs From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Mon Jul 26 21:56:19 2010 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:56:19 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?synthetic_oil?= Message-ID: <20100727035619.23543.qmail@server278.com> does anyone on the list run synthetic oil in their engine and if so how do you keep it in. i have seen it in two different healeys and the oil leaked out like a BP oil well in the gulf. how do you keep it in the engine? hjim From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jul 27 00:29:23 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:29:23 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] water pump - modern reason In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20100726200726.02079008@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <154479.8097.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <000301cb2a0d$e9335cf0$bb9a16d0$@rr.com> <6.2.3.4.2.20100726200726.02079008@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C4E7CC3.3010701@chello.nl> That hole would be at the bottom between the seal and bearing , not on top between the two bearings. Kees Oudesluijs NL john spaur wrote: > I recently replaced a water pump on a 1987 El Camino because the water > pump was leaking through a similar hole. The mechanic told me that > when the seal went bad it would leak from a similar hole. > > John > > At 10:22 PM 7/22/2010 -0400, BJ8 Healeys wrote: >> Greg, my water pump has a similar hole. It does look like the >> casting is >> broken out and ragged. I've seen others like that and I've often >> wondered >> why it was made that way. My pump has been pumping for years with >> that hole >> and nothing has ever come out of it. No grease is necessary. >> >> Steve Byers >> HBJ8L/36666 >> BJ8 Registry [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From lists at brits-n-pieces.com Tue Jul 27 02:02:22 2010 From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (lists) Date: 27 Jul 2010 10:02:22 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?Overheating_Healey_=28closed_system=29?= Message-ID: Rick, this means a closed system raises the boiling temp, but the return tank doesn't. It will only ensure escaped fluid to be drawn back into the radiator. Right? Eric from Eric (Rick) Wilkins [e-wilkins at cox.net] As coolant gets hot, it expands. Since the cooling system is sealed, this expansion causes an increase in pressure in the cooling system, which is normal and part of the design. When coolant is under pressure, the temperature where the liquid begins to boil is considerably higher. This pressure, coupled with the higher boiling point of ethylene glycol, allows the coolant to safely reach temperatures in excess of 250 degrees. The radiator pressure cap is a simple device that will maintain pressure in the cooling system up to a certain point. If the pressure builds up higher than the set pressure point, there is a spring loaded valve, calibrated to the correct Pounds per Square Inch (psi), to release the pressure. When the cooling system pressure reaches the point where the cap needs to release this excess pressure, a small amount of coolant is bled off. It could happen during stop and go traffic on an extremely hot day, or if the cooling system is malfunctioning. If it does release pressure under these conditions, there is a system in place to capture the released coolant and store it in a plastic tank that is usually not pressurized. Since there is now less coolant in the system, as the engine cools down a partial vacuum is formed. The radiator cap on these closed systems has a secondary valve to allow the vacuum in the cooling system to draw the coolant back into the radiator from the reserve tank (like pulling the plunger back on a hypodermic needle) There are usually markings on the side of the plastic tank marked Full- Cold, and Full Hot. When the engine is at normal operating temperature, the coolant in the translucent reserve tank should be up to the Full-Hot line. After the engine has been sitting for several hours and is cold to the touch, the coolant should be at the Full-Cold line. On Jul 26, 2010, at 7:57 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > re: "A closed system with a return tank raises the boiling temp" > > How? > > > bs From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jul 27 03:28:40 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:28:40 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey (closed system) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C4EA6C8.8020109@chello.nl> A closed system is rather the same as a conventional system with an overflow bottle. The difference is that in a conventional system the overflow bottle is not pressurized while the cooling system is, the pressure cap is on the radiator. During expansion coolant will flow to the overflow bottle, however when the engine cools down often not all coolant is sucked back into the radiator because of the poor sealing of the pressure cap. The radiator is usually not filled right up to the filler neck and some air is left for expansion. In "closed" systems there is a simple or no cap on the radiator, without pressure release, the overflow in open connection with the bottom of the overflow bottle with the pressure cap on the overflow bottle. There should not be any air in the radiator. The overflow bottle is fairly large as it has to hold a fair amount of air for expansion and for release of pressure without coolant loss. It should be about half filled with coolant. The working pressure is usually a bit higher. I have converted my cooling system to a semi-closed system using a VW overflow bottle but retaining the original 10lbs pressure cap on the radiator making sure that it seals absolutely air tight and depressurizing the original VW cap of the overflow bottle. I do not think the brass radiator can hold the VW pressure of about 22psi. This way I keep the radiator filled 100% at all times. In the near future I will search for a fitting overflow bottle with a conventional pressure cap like on some Volvo's to have a proper ''closed" system. Kees Oudesluijs NL lists wrote: > Rick, this means a closed system raises the boiling temp, but the return tank doesn't. It will only ensure escaped fluid to be drawn back into the radiator. Right? > > Eric > > from Eric (Rick) Wilkins [e-wilkins at cox.net] > > As coolant gets hot, it expands. Since the cooling system is sealed, > this expansion causes an increase in pressure in the cooling system, > which is normal and part of the design. When coolant is under > pressure, the temperature where the liquid begins to boil is > considerably higher. This pressure, coupled with the higher boiling > point of ethylene glycol, allows the coolant to safely reach > temperatures in excess of 250 degrees. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From healeyron at yahoo.com Tue Jul 27 06:39:11 2010 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Lucas Distributor questions. Message-ID: <4346.69327.qm@web32902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anyone know where I can purchase the fine mesh wire that is used to electrically connect the upper and lower breaker plates of the distributor. Mine is not in the best of shape. I'd like to replace it. I rebuilt the Distrutor on my MkII 3000 last night and found that everything was working properly. The Vacuum advance works free and easy. The Mechanical advance mechanism doesn't show any signs of wear and appears to be working properly. There is no evidence of shaft wobble. The bushings are not worn. One question I don't have the answer to is, the mounting plate for the mechanical advance is marked 15 degrees. The advance setting spec for my distrubutor is 15 degrees BTDC. So at 2500 RPM the specs call for 35 degrees mechanical advance. The 15 degree plate and the 15 degree BTDC setting at 600 RPM adds up to 30 degrees available advance. Where does the extra 5 five degrees come from? What am I missing? The specs on my 100-6 BN6 distributor is 6 degrees BTDC with a max Mechanical advance of 36 degrees. It also has a 15 degree plate that the weights are attached to. That only adds up to 21 degrees. I know some one out there has the answer. In answer to the closed system. I do have a fluid recovery bottle installed so there isn't a problem with low fluid level. Ron Mitchell From alexmm at roadrunner.com Tue Jul 27 06:59:56 2010 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:59:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Lucas Distributor questions. References: <4346.69327.qm@web32902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ron, you can use a piece of fine braided copper known in the electronics business as solder wick. If you can't locate any locally, drop me an SASE and I will send a hank to you. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Mitchell" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:39 AM Subject: [Healeys] Lucas Distributor questions. > Anyone know where I can purchase the fine mesh wire that is used to > electrically > connect the upper and lower breaker plates of the distributor. > Mine is not in > the best of shape. I'd like to replace it. > ................................. [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Tue Jul 27 07:03:39 2010 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:03:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey (closed system) In-Reply-To: References: , <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> <4C4E4B1C.8060703@comcast.net> Message-ID: <023901cb2d8c$226a3c10$673eb430$@net> All modern cooling systems are closed. It does not matter where the pressure cap is located, (radiator or catch tank) the effect is the same, as to pressure in the system. Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eric (Rick) Wilkins Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:42 PM Cc: healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overheating Healey (closed system) As coolant gets hot, it expands. Since the cooling system is sealed, this expansion causes an increase in pressure in the cooling system, which is normal and part of the design. When coolant is under pressure, the temperature where the liquid begins to boil is considerably higher. This pressure, coupled with the higher boiling point of ethylene glycol, allows the coolant to safely reach temperatures in excess of 250 degrees. The radiator pressure cap is a simple device that will maintain pressure in the cooling system up to a certain point. If the pressure builds up higher than the set pressure point, there is a spring loaded valve, calibrated to the correct Pounds per Square Inch (psi), to release the pressure. When the cooling system pressure reaches the point where the cap needs to release this excess pressure, a small amount of coolant is bled off. It could happen during stop and go traffic on an extremely hot day, or if the cooling system is malfunctioning. If it does release pressure under these conditions, there is a system in place to capture the released coolant and store it in a plastic tank that is usually not pressurized. Since there is now less coolant in the system, as the engine cools down a partial vacuum is formed. The radiator cap on these closed systems has a secondary valve to allow the vacuum in the cooling system to draw the coolant back into the radiator from the reserve tank (like pulling the plunger back on a hypodermic needle) There are usually markings on the side of the plastic tank marked Full- Cold, and Full Hot. When the engine is at normal operating temperature, the coolant in the translucent reserve tank should be up to the Full-Hot line. After the engine has been sitting for several hours and is cold to the touch, the coolant should be at the Full-Cold line. On Jul 26, 2010, at 7:57 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > re: "A closed system with a return tank raises the boiling temp" > > How? > > > bs _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/hgmiller3 at qwest.net From steveg at abrazosdata.com Tue Jul 27 07:05:17 2010 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:05:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Overheating_Healey_=28closed_system=29?= Message-ID: <20100727130517.5342.qmail@hoster902.com> I've been running a "recycling" cooling system for years with an unsealed reservoir as described in previous posts. I converted my stock 7 lb cap to this system by adding a 1/16" rubber gasket inside the top of the cap, which seals the cap against the top of the radiator spout. This keeps the radiator full to the top at all times. -- Steve Gerow Altadena, CA BN6 From rdryman1 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 27 07:30:52 2010 From: rdryman1 at yahoo.com (Richard Dryman) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey (closed system) In-Reply-To: References: , <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> <4C4E4B1C.8060703@comcast.net> Message-ID: <610440.82404.qm@web110314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> A special radiator cap is NOW not necessary. I worried for 20 years using an overflow container that would preventembarrassing spots under the parked Healey; worked briefly BUT the fluid would not 'suck back'. Return-type caps were not available from '85-05 in overflow kits for Healeys {I couldn't find them!} HendriX then shared a 'secret?': go to Advance Auto and buy their overflow kit that really works. Didn't believe it until I installed it !!! The key to suck-back operation is the very thin rubber gasket that the kit provides for you to install inside your radiator cap. Earlier kits did not have this. Goes between the brass 'gasket' and the radiator inlet. I have a BSME and for the last 5 years I have not figured out why this now works and probably never will since I have stopped thinking about it. PTL, it does work and is one of my cherished add-ons. GO FOR IT~~~~~~~ ________________________________ From: Eric (Rick) Wilkins Cc: healeys Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 11:41:50 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overheating Healey (closed system) The radiator cap on these closed systems has a secondary valve to allow the vacuum in the cooling system to draw the coolant back into the radiator from the reserve tank (like pulling the plunger back on a hypodermic needle) There are usually markings on the side of the plastic tank marked Full-Cold, and Full Hot. When the engine is at normal operating temperature, the coolant in the translucent reserve tank should be up to the Full-Hot line. After the engine has been sitting for several hours and is cold to the touch, the coolant should be at the Full-Cold line. From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jul 27 07:32:41 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:32:41 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey (closed system) In-Reply-To: <20100727130517.5342.qmail@hoster902.com> References: <20100727130517.5342.qmail@hoster902.com> Message-ID: <4C4EDFF9.5020606@chello.nl> This will usually do the trick, but for extra security also seal the rivet in the cover of the cap, often copper or brass. Kees Oudesluijs NL Steve B. Gerow wrote: > I've been running a "recycling" cooling system for years with an unsealed reservoir as described in previous posts. > > I converted my stock 7 lb cap to this system by adding a 1/16" rubber gasket inside the top of the cap, which seals the cap against the top of the radiator spout. > > This keeps the radiator full to the top at all times. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Jul 27 07:49:34 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 9:49:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey (closed system) In-Reply-To: <610440.82404.qm@web110314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100727094934.YZX3Z.57744.root@pamxwww06-z01> FWIW, on my E-Type, it will ALWAYS overflow if you keep filling it up to the top. What it wants to do, and what I let it do, is to boil off until it reaches the level it wants--then I do not add more water unless to bring it to that point only. tom ---- Richard Dryman wrote: ============= A special radiator cap is NOW not necessary. I worried for 20 years using an overflow container that would preventembarrassing spots under the parked Healey; worked briefly BUT the fluid would not 'suck back'. Return-type caps were not available from '85-05 in overflow kits for Healeys {I couldn't find them!} HendriX then shared a 'secret?': go to Advance Auto and buy their overflow kit that really works. Didn't believe it until I installed it !!! The key to suck-back operation is the very thin rubber gasket that the kit provides for you to install inside your radiator cap. Earlier kits did not have this. Goes between the brass 'gasket' and the radiator inlet. I have a BSME and for the last 5 years I have not figured out why this now works and probably never will since I have stopped thinking about it. PTL, it does work and is one of my cherished add-ons. GO FOR IT~~~~~~~ ________________________________ From: Eric (Rick) Wilkins Cc: healeys Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 11:41:50 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overheating Healey (closed system) The radiator cap on these closed systems has a secondary valve to allow the vacuum in the cooling system to draw the coolant back into the radiator from the reserve tank (like pulling the plunger back on a hypodermic needle) There are usually markings on the side of the plastic tank marked Full-Cold, and Full Hot. When the engine is at normal operating temperature, the coolant in the translucent reserve tank should be up to the Full-Hot line. After the engine has been sitting for several hours and is cold to the touch, the coolant should be at the Full-Cold line. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 27 07:50:19 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:50:19 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 wannabe? In-Reply-To: <754378.35460.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <754378.35460.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: http://tinyurl.com/2vk2s5q if you want to see where you're being sent to:http://preview.tinyurl.com/2vk2s5q http://virginiabeach.ebayclassifieds.com/classic-cars/norfolk/1979-mg-midget/ ?ad=4814317&msg=OUT_OF_AREA From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 27 07:59:28 2010 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:59:28 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] water pump - modern reason In-Reply-To: <4C4E7CC3.3010701@chello.nl> References: <154479.8097.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <000301cb2a0d$e9335cf0$bb9a16d0$@rr.com> <6.2.3.4.2.20100726200726.02079008@pop.att.yahoo.com> <4C4E7CC3.3010701@chello.nl> Message-ID: <201007270659788.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> The ragged hole that is in the casting near the bearings appears in the pumps that have the one piece waterpump bearings. The OD of the spherical bearing race has a groove to locate the assembly in the casting. Then there is a special piece of wire that fits the groove and the groove in the casting to lock it in place. You need to remove that wire to push out the bearing assembly if you were to rebuild it. Peter C ==== At 01:29 AM 7/27/2010, Oudesluys wrote: >That hole would be at the bottom between the seal and bearing , not on >top between the two bearings. >Kees Oudesluijs >NL > > >john spaur wrote: > > I recently replaced a water pump on a 1987 El Camino because the water > > pump was leaking through a similar hole. The mechanic told me that > > when the seal went bad it would leak from a similar hole. > > > > John > > > > At 10:22 PM 7/22/2010 -0400, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > >> Greg, my water pump has a similar hole. It does look like the > >> casting is > >> broken out and ragged. I've seen others like that and I've often > >> wondered > >> why it was made that way. My pump has been pumping for years with > >> that hole > >> and nothing has ever come out of it. No grease is necessary. > >> > >> Steve Byers > >> HBJ8L/36666 > >> BJ8 Registry From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jul 27 08:40:07 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:40:07 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Overheating Healey (closed system) In-Reply-To: <20100727094934.YZX3Z.57744.root@pamxwww06-z01> References: <20100727094934.YZX3Z.57744.root@pamxwww06-z01> Message-ID: <4C4EEFC7.4010502@chello.nl> If you fit an airtight radiator cap and an overflow bottle with the connection at the bottom, or a hose going in from the top but nearly reaching the bottom, fill up around half way, the radiator will expell the air and some coolant into the overflow bottle when heating up. After cooling down it will suck back in coolant, no air, which in due time will fill up the radiator 100%, if you keep the overflow bottle at half level for a while. Kees Oudesluijs NL Tom Felts wrote: > FWIW, on my E-Type, it will ALWAYS overflow if you keep filling it up to the top. What it wants to do, and what I let it do, is to boil off until it reaches the level it wants--then I do not add more water unless to bring it to that point only. > > tom [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From healeyron at yahoo.com Tue Jul 27 09:32:25 2010 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Lucas Distributor questions. In-Reply-To: References: <4346.69327.qm@web32902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <778338.78127.qm@web32902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Alex, Thanks for the tip. I do have a roll of it and will do what you say. I hadn't thought of that but it's a great idea. Ron ________________________________ From: Alex To: Ron Mitchell ; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 8:59:56 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lucas Distributor questions. Ron, you can use a piece of fine braided copper known in the electronics business as solder wick. If you can't locate any locally, drop me an SASE and I will send a hank to you. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Mitchell" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:39 AM Subject: [Healeys] Lucas Distributor questions. > Anyone know where I can purchase the fine mesh wire that is used to > electrically > connect the upper and lower breaker plates of the distributor. > Mine is not in > the best of shape. I'd like to replace it. ................................. From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Jul 27 11:18:13 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:18:13 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] nice Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <4C4CF719.7050802@comcast.net> References: <4C4C7AE5.6030209@comcast.net> <8CCFA64353B9B1B-7B4-27C4@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> <4C4CF719.7050802@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C4F14D5.2080500@chello.nl> For sale on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.nl/AUSTIN-HEALEY-100-RECORD-CAR-1950s-B-W-PHOTO-/400138100121?cmd=ViewItem&hash=item5d2a16dd99 Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From austin.healey at gmail.com Tue Jul 27 11:24:43 2010 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:24:43 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Lucas Distributor questions. In-Reply-To: <4346.69327.qm@web32902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4346.69327.qm@web32902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <107A9AEF-B764-496D-AAA6-66899A31FF13@gmail.com> Hi Ron. The distributor runs off the camshaft, not the crankshaft. In a 4 stroke engine, the relationship is that the cam only turns one full revolution, for each two full revolutions of the crankshaft. You are adding cam degrees to crank degrees without allowing for the fact the crank turns twice for one revolution of the cam. If you have a 15 degree cam in your distributor, which is driven by the camshaft, then I'd be starting at a static advance of 5 or 6 degrees BTDC Your 100/6 numbers add up (2x 15 cam = 30 for one crank rev, plus 6 btdc crank degrees) but your MK 2 numbers are 45 ( 2x 15= 30 + 15 static) Around 34- 36 degrees when all advance is in, around 2,800 - 3,000 rpm is the guidline. Just out of curiosity, which cyl head casting do you have???? Chris Sent from my iPhone On 27/07/2010, at 10:39 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > I rebuilt the > Distrutor on my MkII 3000 last night and found that everything > was working > properly > One > question I don't have the answer to is, the mounting plate for the > mechanical > advance is marked 15 degrees. The advance setting spec for my > distrubutor is > 15 degrees BTDC. So at 2500 RPM the specs call for 35 > degrees mechanical > advance. The 15 degree plate and the 15 degree BTDC setting > at 600 RPM adds > up to 30 degrees available advance. Where does the extra 5 five > degrees come > from? What am I missing? The specs on my 100-6 BN6 distributor is > 6 degrees > BTDC with a max Mechanical advance of 36 degrees. It also has a 15 > degree > plate that the weights are attached to. That only adds up to 21 > degrees. I > know some one out there has the answer. > > In answer to the closed system. I > do have a fluid recovery bottle installed so > there isn't a problem with low > fluid level. > > Ron Mitchell > ____________________________ From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 27 12:14:05 2010 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:14:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys Message-ID: After three unanswered e-mails to a supplier about the PCV kit, I decided to try and make my own for my Tri-carb. From Pep Boys: Purolator valve PV770 $4.79. Brass Tite fitting #43075 $1.99. The PCV valve fits nicely inside the hose that comes off the top of the valve cover. I did rough up with sandpaper the end of the valve that goes into the hose and apply a bit of gasket sealer (non hardening), and clamped it with a hose clamp. Took it for a drive and it ran great. It MAY have eliminated/ reduced the timing cover oil leak that I have been having issues with. Also seemed like less engine smell (fuel/ oil)- but it may just be in my head. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Tue Jul 27 13:15:23 2010 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] New Healey? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <609699.46441.qm@web52401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hmmm, A friend called last nite and said he saw a story on national news about a new Healey. Anybody see this? I thought the list would be all-a-buzz? Best JK From jeff at pellfam.com Tue Jul 27 13:28:35 2010 From: jeff at pellfam.com (Jeff Pelletier) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:28:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] New Healey? In-Reply-To: <609699.46441.qm@web52401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <609699.46441.qm@web52401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E150495@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> http://www.classicandperformancecar.com/features/octane_features/223059/ new_healey.html -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jackson Krall Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:15 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] New Healey? Hmmm, A friend called last nite and said he saw a story on national news about a new Healey. Anybody see this? I thought the list would be all-a-buzz? Best JK _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jeff at pellfam.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3029 - Release Date: 07/27/10 02:09:00 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 27 13:30:57 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:30:57 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] New Healey? In-Reply-To: <609699.46441.qm@web52401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: , <609699.46441.qm@web52401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nothing here, but a quick google finds this from 2008:http://www.classicandperformancecar.com/features/octane_features/223059/ new_healey.html and this about new Healey watches:http://watches.infoniac.com/healey-chrono-automatic-frederique-consta nt.html Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:15:23 -0700 > From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] New Healey? > > Hmmm, A friend called last nite and said he saw a story on national news about a new Healey. Anybody see this? I thought the list would be all-a-buzz? > Best > JK > _______________________________________________ From derek.c.job at gmail.com Tue Jul 27 13:37:39 2010 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:37:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 wannabe? In-Reply-To: References: <754378.35460.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Man, that looks like a BJ8 wannabe to me Derek On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:50 AM, wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/2vk2s5q > if you want to see where you're being sent > to:http://preview.tinyurl.com/2vk2s5q > > > http://virginiabeach.ebayclassifieds.com/classic-cars/norfolk/1979-mg-midget/ > ?ad=4814317&msg=OUT_OF_AREA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jul 27 14:39:24 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 wannabe? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <507447541.624984.1280263164670.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Ouch. OTOH, those fake side pipes look pretty cool .... bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Man, that looks like a BJ8 wannabe to me Derek From Healey100M at gmail.com Tue Jul 27 15:01:50 2010 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:01:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Air cond. compressor mounting bracket Message-ID: <64142001-79B9-4BE5-A0C7-309FBC2A3624@gmail.com> At Galena someone mentioned a mounting bracket built by somebody in the Healey community for mounting an air conditioner compressor to a Healey block. But couldn't remember the name. Ring a bell with anyone? Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Jul 27 15:52:14 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:52:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Air cond. compressor mounting bracket References: <64142001-79B9-4BE5-A0C7-309FBC2A3624@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00e301cb2dd5$fa170e10$ee452a30$@verizon.net> Try: http://tinyurl.com/25oo2xp John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randy Hicks Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:02 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Air cond. compressor mounting bracket At Galena someone mentioned a mounting bracket built by somebody in the Healey community for mounting an air conditioner compressor to a Healey block. But couldn't remember the name. Ring a bell with anyone? Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Tue Jul 27 16:32:12 2010 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:32:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Air cond. compressor mounting bracket In-Reply-To: <64142001-79B9-4BE5-A0C7-309FBC2A3624@gmail.com> References: <64142001-79B9-4BE5-A0C7-309FBC2A3624@gmail.com> Message-ID: randy, you can contact bret blades at razorblades at mindspring.com. he makes all the ac brackets for Healeys. cheers, jerry On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Randy Hicks wrote: > At Galena someone mentioned a mounting bracket built by somebody in the > Healey > community for mounting an air conditioner compressor to a Healey block. But > couldn't remember the name. > > Ring a bell with anyone? > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100 M > '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 27 17:08:36 2010 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:08:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys In-Reply-To: <00ba01cb2dbb$f444b970$dcce2c50$@verizon.net> References: , <00ba01cb2dbb$f444b970$dcce2c50$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Here are two pics. The fitting also fits standard dual carb manifold as well. The hose is shorter, only going to the rear of the manifold in the dual set up as opposed to the tricarb where it must go to the front manifold. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." > From: ahbn6 at verizon.net > To: stmiller96 at hotmail.com > Subject: RE: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:45:57 -0400 > > Do you have any photos? Would like to post on my site. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of S and T Miller > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:14 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys > > After three unanswered e-mails to a supplier about the PCV kit, I decided to > try and make my own for my Tri-carb. From Pep Boys: Purolator valve PV770 > $4.79. Brass Tite fitting #43075 $1.99. The PCV valve fits nicely inside > the hose that comes off the top of the valve cover. I did rough up with > sandpaper the end of the valve that goes into the hose and apply a bit of > gasket sealer (non hardening), and clamped it with a hose clamp. Took it > for a drive and it ran great. It MAY have eliminated/ reduced the timing > cover oil leak that I have been having issues with. Also seemed like less > engine smell (fuel/ oil)- but it may just be in my head. > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W > L > :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 27 19:01:48 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:01:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Lucas Distributor questions. In-Reply-To: <4346.69327.qm@web32902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4346.69327.qm@web32902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C4F817C.2000504@justbrits.com> << I know some one out there has the answer. >> As I said in a PM to your very first post on the subject Ron, send it to Jeff at Advance and TALK to him [VERY easy to do] on the TELEPHONE !!! You [and anybody else] will be simply AMAZED at not only his willingness to do so, but his KNOWLEDGE of LBC dizzys. But I guess it is just easier to spend a few hours DYI'ng and STILL end up with " what do I STILL have here?], huh? Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 27 19:15:44 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:15:44 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Anyone near Youngstown, Ohio willing to look at a car for me? Message-ID: Hi - I am looking at a classic Jag located just outside of Youngstown, I like the car but I'm not so sure about the seller, so it would be great to have a pair of eyes to eyeball the car and papers. Nothing technical. Thanks! Alan From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Jul 27 19:55:42 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:55:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: PCV valve- from Pep Boys References: Message-ID: <000501cb2df7$fcc9d990$f65d8cb0$@verizon.net> This great hint complete with photos will be on the July 28 update to my site. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of S and T Miller Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:14 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys After three unanswered e-mails to a supplier about the PCV kit, I decided to try and make my own for my Tri-carb. From Pep Boys: Purolator valve PV770 $4.79. Brass Tite fitting #43075 $1.99. The PCV valve fits nicely inside the hose that comes off the top of the valve cover. I did rough up with sandpaper the end of the valve that goes into the hose and apply a bit of gasket sealer (non hardening), and clamped it with a hose clamp. Took it for a drive and it ran great. It MAY have eliminated/ reduced the timing cover oil leak that I have been having issues with. Also seemed like less engine smell (fuel/ oil)- but it may just be in my head. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." From gmandas at yahoo.com Tue Jul 27 20:34:54 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration Message-ID: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> John, I just read your article on the overdrive on your site, healey6. Nice site. You say the roller clutch allows the OD to drive the rear wheels but not the oposite, as it will damage the OD unit. Knowing you can't possibly keep ALL deceleration force off of the OD unit, how much can the OD manage and how much is too much before it's damaged? Does one's driving style change when the OD is engaged? Is engine breaking absolutely forbidden? What the minimum time the OD should be used before it's being engaged and disengaged too much, 5 minutes, 15 minutes, 30 or more? Greg 65BJ8 Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. From ahstc at live.com Tue Jul 27 21:32:57 2010 From: ahstc at live.com (ahstc at live.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:32:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Charity Auction to benefit the Philadelphia & Susquehanna Chapters of The Make-A-Wish Foundation Message-ID: I wanted to invite all British Car Enthusiasts to join us for a wine & cheese reception and guest speaker introduction and charity auction on Thursday night of The Austin-Healey Sports & Touring Club's four day event Encounter Philadelphia 2010. Our Guest Speaker is: Mr. Gordon Whitby. He worked for BMC's West Coast Distributor and assisted both MG and Austin-Healey in their record breaking attempts at Bonneville. Cost: $15 pp, This will cover the cost of "free" wine and cheese' to all attendees (of legal age). Location: Normandy Farm (Corner of Morris Rd. and Rt. 202) in Blue Bell, PA Time: Thursday, August 12th, 7:00 PM This will be a great evening! Ray Donovan President The Austin-Healey Sports & Touring Club From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 28 06:10:59 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:10:59 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] New Healey? In-Reply-To: References: , , <609699.46441.qm@web52401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: For the tinyurl people: the car ( article from 2008 )http://tinyurl.com/2da9g9n the watch:http://tinyurl.com/22ocytc I'm not sure if you'll see the same picture links on the "car" page, but I see the "Tempest" here also which was at one time reputed to be the next AH. > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:30:57 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Healey? > > Nothing here, but a quick google finds this from > 2008:http://www.classicandperformancecar.com/features/octane_features/223059/ > new_healey.html > and this about new Healey > watches:http://watches.infoniac.com/healey-chrono-automatic-frederique-consta > nt.html > Robert Duquette > > > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:15:23 -0700 > > From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com > > > > Hmmm, A friend called last nite and said he saw a story on national news > about a new Healey. Anybody see this? I thought the list would be all-a-buzz? > > Best > > JK > > _______________________________________________ From jagwarman at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 07:15:15 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:15:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection Message-ID: I was checking out Healey's on Youtube and came across a guy who has designed a throttle body fuel injection system on a tri carb car. If you haven't seen this you should watch it. Does anyone here have any thoughts on this. It would be nice to have a healey that would start like a modern car and not always smell like a gas tank. I know it is part of the experience to have those odors when driving a healey however, women really don't like it. From warthodson at aol.com Wed Jul 28 07:23:20 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:23:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration In-Reply-To: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CCFC6F2EC51346-A88-1FDD@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com> Greg, I haven't read the article you reference, but I can tell you that a correctly functioning overdrive (mechanically, hydraulically & electrically) can be engaged in 3rd or 4th gear & can operate for extended periods of time. On long high speed trips I use 4th OD all day, except when required by the law to slow down! I am not aware of any reasaon engine braking cannot be used when in overdrive. Some advocate using the brakes, not the engine, to conserve the drive line components, but that has nothing to do with the OD specifically. Personnaly I like down shifting occasionally. It gives me a chance to practice my heal & toe, just in case Ann Wisdom is navigating for me. Gary Hodson From mgcharlie at comcast.net Wed Jul 28 07:24:17 2010 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:24:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration In-Reply-To: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C502F81.1070201@comcast.net> Greg, It seems that Austin-Healeys are one of the few makes that used a system to allow the overdrive to drop out only on acceleration. I've owned several Volvos with Laycock overdrives, both D and J type, and there was no provision for this on any of them. One car that was in my possession for a while, an MG TD with Volvo B18 engine and D type OD trans. would actually chirp the tires if you flipped off the OD switch when decelerating, so using the clutch made it much less harsh. The Volvo owner's manuals actually tell you to use the clutch if the engagement or disengagement of the overdrive was too harsh. No mention of damaging the unit; they seemed to be more concerned about comfort. The overdrive is, of course, is one of the main parts of the drive train and Volvos of that period were known for their longevity, more so than most any other brand. There is a Volvo 1800 on Long Island, NY that has over 2.5 million miles on it. That car has a Laycock OD unit. Volvo also probably put more Laycock overdrives into cars than any other manufacturer. Perhaps there is something about the A type overdrive in an Austin-Healey that makes it more fragile, but I believe that it is very similar to a D type, though more robust. Charlie Greg Mandas wrote: > John, > > I just read your article on the overdrive on your site, healey6. Nice site. You say the roller clutch allows the OD to drive the rear wheels but not the oposite, as it will damage the OD unit. > > Knowing you can't possibly keep ALL deceleration force off of the OD unit, how much can the OD manage and how much is too much before it's damaged? > > Does one's driving style change when the OD is engaged? > Is engine breaking absolutely forbidden? > What the minimum time the OD should be used before it's being engaged and disengaged too much, 5 minutes, 15 minutes, 30 or more? > > Greg > 65BJ8 > > Sent from my iPhone so please excuse typos and brevity. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Jul 28 07:35:25 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:35:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005001cb2e59$bcf6f7a0$36e4e6e0$@verizon.net> Do you have a specific link? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frederich Ficke Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:15 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection I was checking out Healey's on Youtube and came across a guy who has designed a throttle body fuel injection system on a tri carb car. If you haven't seen this you should watch it. Does anyone here have any thoughts on this. It would be nice to have a healey that would start like a modern car and not always smell like a gas tank. I know it is part of the experience to have those odors when driving a healey however, women really don't like it. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jul 28 07:42:36 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:42:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C5033CC.4030506@comcast.net> If your Healey 'smells like a gas tank' there's something wrong (and possibly a fire hazard). bs Frederich Ficke wrote: > I was checking out Healey's on Youtube and came across a guy who has > designed a throttle body fuel injection system on a tri carb car. If you > haven't seen this you should watch it. Does anyone here have any thoughts on > this. It would be nice to have a healey that would start like a modern car > and not always smell like a gas tank. I know it is part of the experience to > have those odors when driving a healey however, women really don't like it. > _______________________________________________ > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Jul 28 07:51:48 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:51:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Healey Fuel Injection References: Message-ID: <005101cb2e5c$0694e000$13bea000$@verizon.net> OK Found it. I have a link to it on my site but you can find the video and a lot of other information at: http://stevesaustinhealey.com/ John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: John Sims [mailto:ahbn6 at verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:35 AM To: 'Frederich Ficke'; 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection Do you have a specific link? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frederich Ficke Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:15 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection I was checking out Healey's on Youtube and came across a guy who has designed a throttle body fuel injection system on a tri carb car. If you haven't seen this you should watch it. Does anyone here have any thoughts on this. It would be nice to have a healey that would start like a modern car and not always smell like a gas tank. I know it is part of the experience to have those odors when driving a healey however, women really don't like it. From jagwarman at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 08:21:56 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:21:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] fuel injection video link Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/user/Thomvid#p/u/35/LC7TL_ym-cQ From richard.ewald at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 08:50:35 2010 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:50:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration In-Reply-To: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I taught OD rebuilding for Volvo cars for a lot of years, and while we didn't have type A laycocks, all the ODs are very similar. The purpose of the one way clutch is to prevent the torque of the engine from causing the cone clutch in the OD from slipping. Look at the size of the cone clutch. It is what an inch or so wide by eight inches or so in diameter. Figure out the surface area of that clutch and compare it to the surface area of the main clutch on the flywheel. The cone clutch is tiny in comparison. If exposed to the full torque of the engine on acceleration, and without something else to reinforce it, the cone clutch would spin and slip. To prevent this, a one way clutch (or sprag clutch in Americaneese) is used to back up the cone clutch. This allows free movement in one direction but locks up tight in the other and prevents slip. So when accelerating the one way clutch takes the torque of the engine, and the cone clutch is not exposed to abuse. On deceleration, the one way clutch releases, and the torque of the is passed directly. The tires generate very little torque and it can be handled by the cone clutch alone. this is exactly the same was what happens in an automatic transmission where you have a series of clutches, brakes and freewheels to engage the various gears. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Greg Mandas wrote: > John, > > I just read your article on the overdrive on your site, healey6. Nice site. > You say the roller clutch allows the OD to drive the rear wheels but not > the oposite, as it will damage the OD unit. From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 08:59:51 2010 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:59:51 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Guys, unless I'm terribly mistaken AH Spares LTd in the UK is selling a fuel injection system for AH's. Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2010/7/28 Frederich Ficke > I was checking out Healey's on Youtube and came across a guy who has > designed a throttle body fuel injection system on a tri carb car. If you > haven't seen this you should watch it. Does anyone here have any thoughts > on > this. It would be nice to have a healey that would start like a modern car > and not always smell like a gas tank. I know it is part of the experience > to > have those odors when driving a healey however, women really don't like it. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/j.aeckerlin at gmail.com From rccpl1 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 28 09:21:15 2010 From: rccpl1 at yahoo.com (john doe) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] abarth Message-ID: <847171.88069.qm@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi all i'm selling my abarth exhaust for a bj8 very few miles good chrome on tips anyone interested let me know very heavy system could deliver within 50 miles of 10965 area code thats ny [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of Picture 160.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of Picture 161.jpg] From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Wed Jul 28 09:27:05 2010 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:27:05 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection In-Reply-To: <4C5033CC.4030506@comcast.net> References: <4C5033CC.4030506@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob All I say is that unless we can go back to less volatile fuel here in the UK or insulate the pump and pipes over the exhaust pipe, then vaporised fuel as a gas has to come out of the carburettor overflow vents. This creates a smell. I agree that this is potentially dangerous and the only saving grace on a 100 with an 'M' style airbox is that these overflow fumes are drawn back into the engine. Regards >If your Healey 'smells like a gas tank' there's something wrong (and >possibly a fire hazard). > >bs > > >Frederich Ficke wrote: >> I was checking out Healey's on Youtube and came across a guy who has >> designed a throttle body fuel injection system on a tri carb car. If you >> haven't seen this you should watch it. Does anyone here have any thoughts on >> this. It would be nice to have a healey that would start like a modern car >> and not always smell like a gas tank. I know it is part of the experience to >> have those odors when driving a healey however, women really don't like it. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > > -- John Harper From s.hutchings at rogers.com Wed Jul 28 09:35:52 2010 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:35:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys Message-ID: I've looked at the photos of the PCV installation on John's website, which are helpful, but what do you do when the manifold hole is already occupied by the brake servo, as on a BJ8? Stephen, BJ8 From warthodson at aol.com Wed Jul 28 09:39:51 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:39:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Overdrive Deceleration In-Reply-To: <8CCFC71A0A01EB2-A88-2318@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com> References: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4C502F81.1070201@comcast.net> <8CCFC71A0A01EB2-A88-2318@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCFC8240EC50BA-1270-5110@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com> If the tires chirp when the overdrive switch is disengaged the throttle kick down switch is not correctly adjusted. The overdrive should only disengage when the throttle is slightly depressed thus eliminating the harsh downshift. Gary Hodson From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jul 28 10:00:51 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:00:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <466290802.664100.1280332851673.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Well, I still have a pretty good sense of smell--can't say the same for my hearing and eyesight, unfortunately--but neither of my Healeys (100M and BJ8) smell of fuel. If I smelled gasoline I would find the source of the smell--like I did when the boot of the BJ8 smelled of gasoline (pinhole leaks, tank replaced, smell gone). Nor do I get a puddle of gas under the carburettors (oil, well, that's another story). The only thing I can think of that would cause overflow is the fuel 'boiling' in the float bowls at shutdown. I've driven the BJ8 in 115degF heat and not had this problem, although I am experiencing a bit of vapor lock on hot starts that I didn't used to get. This may or may not be due to the newer fuel formulations (i.e. 10% ethanol). I doubt the volatility of fuel is much different in the UK--internal combustion gasoline engines require a minimum volatility in order to function, and the maximum volatility is limited by environmental considerations--fuel that evaporates too quickly does no one any good (fuel volatility is usually given as Reid Vapor Pressure). In CA, at least, fuels are formulated to be more volatile in the winter--for cold starting--than in the summer--to limit smog (UK fuel may be equivalent to CA winter blends). Anyone else have Healeys that smell of fuel? Am I just lucky, or have the VOC receptors in my nose been fried? Is this an endemic European problem? I haven't been around any Healeys in good nick that smelled of gas--burning oil, well, that's another topic (but I haven't smelled any Healeys in Europe). bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Bob All I say is that unless we can go back to less volatile fuel here in the UK or insulate the pump and pipes over the exhaust pipe, then vaporised fuel as a gas has to come out of the carburettor overflow vents. This creates a smell. I agree that this is potentially dangerous and the only saving grace on a 100 with an 'M' style airbox is that these overflow fumes are drawn back into the engine. Regards >If your Healey 'smells like a gas tank' there's something wrong (and >possibly a fire hazard). > >bs -- John Harper From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jul 28 10:03:41 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1451153759.664245.1280333021913.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Use the smaller tapped and plugged hole at the rear of the manifold. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Hutchings" To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:35:52 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys I've looked at the photos of the PCV installation on John's website, which are helpful, but what do you do when the manifold hole is already occupied by the brake servo, as on a BJ8? Stephen, BJ8 _______________________________________________ From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jul 28 10:09:29 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:09:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <60357.375.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100728120929.WJL8T.8479.root@pamxwww03-z01> Hi Bob. I run generally at 190, but my point was an occasional peak to 212 isn't going to harm your car. If that were the case, it seems they would make 212 the "peg" point on the gauge. My Jeep runs all the time at 212-215 and that is smack in the middle of the normal range. I am fortunate to have a healthy cooling system on the Healey, but, anyone who has a Healey will know that 212 is not unusual in hot weather--esp S&G traffic when the temp is in the 90's. I do agree that a constant 212 is not normal and indicates a problem somewhere. Regards tom ---- Robert Blair wrote: ============= Tom. A joke maybe? Water boils at 212F [under normal pressure]. if you are showing 212 it is too hot and outside the design spec for the motor on a long term basis. Indicative of a cooling system problem. As you see, most folks run at 190 in hot weather with a healthy cooling system. Robert N. BlairB Yellow 65BJ8B RNBmail at yahoo.com B --- On Sat, 7/24/10, Tom Felts wrote: > From: Tom Felts > Subject: Re: [Healeys] still too hot... > To: "Ron Mitchell" , "Jeff Pelletier" , healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 5:24 PM > What's wrong with 212 degrees?B From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Jul 28 10:39:25 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:39:25 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] still too hot... In-Reply-To: <20100728120929.WJL8T.8479.root@pamxwww03-z01> References: <20100728120929.WJL8T.8479.root@pamxwww03-z01> Message-ID: <4C505D3D.8050009@chello.nl> If the Jeep is a "modern" car the gauge will always be bang smack in the middle whatever the real temperature is unless it is really way off and it will be to late to do anything about it. This is to prevent people worrying. Look at any modern car and the gauges will behave all the same. They are very insensitive, just for show and absolutely useless. Give me the old fashioned one so that I can see what is coming. Make sure though it is accurate. When you run a 6lbs cap the boiling point will be around 230F, 9lbs cap gives ca. 238F, 10lbs gives ca. 240 and a 12lbs cap will give ca. 245F. This is with water. As you will undoubtedly have proper coolant in your engines these boiling temperatures will in reality be a bit higher So there is no problem at all with 212F/100C. Many people have a thermostat that opens much to early, even as low as 70C. It is better to have a thermostat opening at around 86C. Saves your engine, gives better mileage and a better running car. Cooling capacity is not influenced but you have a smaller buffer in dense traffic. Kees Oudesluijs NL Tom Felts wrote: > Hi Bob. I run generally at 190, but my point was an occasional peak to 212 > isn't going to harm your car. If that were the case, it seems they would make > 212 the "peg" point on the gauge. My Jeep runs all the time at 212-215 and > that is smack in the middle of the normal range. > > I am fortunate to have a healthy cooling system on the Healey, but, anyone who > has a Healey will know that 212 is not unusual in hot weather--esp S&G traffic > when the temp is in the 90's. > > I do agree that a constant 212 is not normal and indicates a problem > somewhere. > > > Regards > tom [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From jagwarman at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 10:39:37 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:39:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors Message-ID: I am not saying my smells really bad or maybe I really don't notice . However everytime I take a new girlfriend for a ride they tend to get a headache unless the top is down. I don't have any leaks on the fuel system and it runs pretty lean since the plugs are running brownish tan so it is not a richness problem. But here is a thought women tend to wear so much perfume how can they even smell gasoline? For that matter their perfume gives me a headache at times. Oh well gotta love british cars they leak they stink of fuel but the smile on your face when you drive them is priceless .... From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Jul 28 10:44:51 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:44:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys In-Reply-To: <1451153759.664245.1280333021913.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1451153759.664245.1280333021913.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <006601cb2e74$33a58280$9af08780$@verizon.net> If you guys go ahead and make that installation, please shoot me a photo to include in the article. I just added a photo of the installation for a two carb BN6 and I am going out the door in a few minutes to buy a PCV valve to install later today on my BN6 and I'll add that photo also. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:04 PM To: Stephen Hutchings Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys Use the smaller tapped and plugged hole at the rear of the manifold. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Hutchings" To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:35:52 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys I've looked at the photos of the PCV installation on John's website, which are helpful, but what do you do when the manifold hole is already occupied by the brake servo, as on a BJ8? Stephen, BJ8 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Jul 28 10:50:28 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:50:28 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] sleeved thermostats In-Reply-To: <20100728120929.WJL8T.8479.root@pamxwww03-z01> References: <20100728120929.WJL8T.8479.root@pamxwww03-z01> Message-ID: <4C505FD4.4040800@chello.nl> For those looking for the old type sleeved thermostats. I found another few NOS, some Smiths 85025 and some equivalent AC's. They were also used in the TR3/4. I have ones with varying opening temperatures. If you are interested, contact me. Kees Oudesluijs NL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From jagwarman at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 10:53:26 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:53:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel injection kit cost Message-ID: I just looked up the fuel injection kit through AH Spares. My god it is priced at $6247.00. Neat system but SU's will stay in my budget . That is a different system than the link I provider through youtube earlier. From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jul 28 10:54:33 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <304583598.667606.1280336073165.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Some women get headaches sometimes regardless (sorry, couldn't resist). Headaches--along with euphoria and dizziness--is a possible symptom of carbon monoxide poisoning. I'd be concerned about exhaust leaks. Aside from that, Healeys are noisy, smelly, shaky cars compared to modern transportation appliances--that can be unsettling to some people. In my experience, women who like Healeys are more fun. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederich Ficke" To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:39:37 AM Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors I am not saying my smells really bad or maybe I really don't notice . However everytime I take a new girlfriend for a ride they tend to get a headache unless the top is down. I don't have any leaks on the fuel system and it runs pretty lean since the plugs are running brownish tan so it is not a richness problem. But here is a thought women tend to wear so much perfume how can they even smell gasoline? For that matter their perfume gives me a headache at times. Oh well gotta love british cars they leak they stink of fuel but the smile on your face when you drive them is priceless .... _______________________________________________ From gmandas at yahoo.com Wed Jul 28 11:11:20 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection In-Reply-To: <005001cb2e59$bcf6f7a0$36e4e6e0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <491826.79195.qm@web56106.mail.re3.yahoo.com> List, This isn't the video. It's another forum. http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/537234/Re_Youtub e_63_BJ7_with_electro Greg --- On Wed, 7/28/10, John Sims wrote: > From: John Sims > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection > To: "'Frederich Ficke'" , healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:35 AM > Do you have a specific link? > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Frederich Ficke > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:15 AM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection > > I was checking out Healey's on Youtube and came across a > guy who has > designed a throttle body fuel injection system on a tri > carb car. If you > haven't seen this you should watch it. Does anyone here > have any thoughts on > this. It would be nice to have a healey that would start > like a modern car > and not always smell like a gas tank. I know it is part of > the experience to > have those odors when driving a healey however, women > really don't like it. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmandas at yahoo.com From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 28 11:16:09 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:16:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: <304583598.667606.1280336073165.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <304583598.667606.1280336073165.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C5065D9.7060806@justbrits.com> << In my experience, women who like Healeys are more fun. >> GOSPEL - bs [and that's NO bs] (Bob) !!! . . . . . . Sorry, just HAD to !!! From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Jul 28 11:38:18 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:38:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: PCV valve- from Pep Boys In-Reply-To: <4C5066C8.4050202@sasktel.net> References: <1451153759.664245.1280333021913.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <006601cb2e74$33a58280$9af08780$@verizon.net> <4C5066C8.4050202@sasktel.net> Message-ID: <006d01cb2e7b$aaef3690$00cda3b0$@verizon.net> I received the following from our friend, Ed Driver. The article on his site to which he refers can be found at: http://www.vintage-sportscar-touring.ca/technical/PCV.html There are other very interesting items on his site that are good reads and full of information. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: E.A. Driver [mailto:edriver at sasktel.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:20 PM To: John Sims Subject: Re: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys Hi John I am truly amazed, this setup for a BJ8 with photos and measurements has been on my web site for the last four years. Keep up the good work mate Kind regards Ed Saskatoon > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:04 PM > To: Stephen Hutchings > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] PCV valve- from Pep Boys > > Use the smaller tapped and plugged hole at the rear of the manifold. > > bs From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Jul 28 11:39:17 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:39:17 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C506B45.4000603@chello.nl> Exhaust fumes, mate. Make the exhaust pipe(s) a bit longer so that the fumes cannot enter the cabin. Kees Oudesluijs NL Frederich Ficke wrote: > I am not saying my smells really bad or maybe I really don't notice . > However everytime I take a new girlfriend for a ride they tend to get a > headache unless the top is down. I don't have any leaks on the fuel system > and it runs pretty lean since the plugs are running brownish tan so it is > not a richness problem. But here is a thought women tend to wear so much > perfume how can they even smell gasoline? For that matter their perfume > gives me a headache at times. Oh well gotta love british cars they leak they > stink of fuel but the smile on your face when you drive them is priceless > .... > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3032 - datum van uitgifte: 07/27/10 20:34:00 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Jul 28 12:46:20 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:46:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: FW: PCV valve- from Pep Boys In-Reply-To: References: <1451153759.664245.1280333021913.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <006601cb2e74$33a58280$9af08780$@verizon.net> <4C5066C8.4050202@sasktel.net> <006d01cb2e7b$aaef3690$00cda3b0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <007701cb2e85$2c5d6f40$85184dc0$@verizon.net> Please note the following and be guided accordingly. The part is referenced on the Vintage Sports Car site for a BJ8 John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From: Fred Wescoe [mailto:fredwescoe at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:38 PM To: John Sims Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Healeys] FW: PCV valve- from Pep Boys John, You may want to add to your info on this that the part number C 727CV is no longer available through NAPA. The current part number is 2 - 9204. This number will cross reference to a second PCV number as well. Both PCV valves are the same and both are being discontinued by NAPA because of lack of demand. Anyone interested in doing this setup should get the part ASAP. I did 2 cars with this setup a month or so ago. Fred 63 BJ7 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:38 PM, John Sims wrote: I received the following from our friend, Ed Driver. The article on his site to which he refers can be found at: http://www.vintage-sportscar-touring.ca/technical/PCV.html There are other very interesting items on his site that are good reads and full of information. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jul 28 13:02:29 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: FW: PCV valve- from Pep Boys In-Reply-To: <007701cb2e85$2c5d6f40$85184dc0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1407555986.675979.1280343749098.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Note the PCV causes the rear carb to run a little leaner (at least it did on my BJ8). You might want to enrichen it a tad to compensate. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Please note the following and be guided accordingly. The part is referenced on the Vintage Sports Car site for a BJ8 John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Wed Jul 28 13:10:28 2010 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:10:28 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001301cb2e88$8b453670$a1cfa350$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> You're right. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jaap Aeckerlin Sent: 28 July 2010 16:00 To: Frederich Ficke; Healey forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection Guys, unless I'm terribly mistaken AH Spares LTd in the UK is selling a fuel injection system for AH's. Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2010/7/28 Frederich Ficke > I was checking out Healey's on Youtube and came across a guy who has > designed a throttle body fuel injection system on a tri carb car. If you > haven't seen this you should watch it. Does anyone here have any thoughts > on > this. It would be nice to have a healey that would start like a modern car > and not always smell like a gas tank. I know it is part of the experience > to > have those odors when driving a healey however, women really don't like it. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/j.aeckerlin at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Wed Jul 28 13:16:30 2010 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:16:30 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection In-Reply-To: <466290802.664100.1280332851673.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <466290802.664100.1280332851673.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <001901cb2e89$630facc0$292f0640$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> I have a tricarb and if it smells of petrol I investigate. At once. When all is well, there's no smell. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: 28 July 2010 17:01 To: John Harper Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; Frederich Ficke Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection Well, I still have a pretty good sense of smell--can't say the same for my hearing and eyesight, unfortunately--but neither of my Healeys (100M and BJ8) smell of fuel. If I smelled gasoline I would find the source of the smell--like I did when the boot of the BJ8 smelled of gasoline (pinhole leaks, tank replaced, smell gone). Nor do I get a puddle of gas under the carburettors (oil, well, that's another story). The only thing I can think of that would cause overflow is the fuel 'boiling' in the float bowls at shutdown. I've driven the BJ8 in 115degF heat and not had this problem, although I am experiencing a bit of vapor lock on hot starts that I didn't used to get. This may or may not be due to the newer fuel formulations (i.e. 10% ethanol). I doubt the volatility of fuel is much different in the UK--internal combustion gasoline engines require a minimum volatility in order to function, and the maximum volatility is limited by environmental considerations--fuel that evaporates too quickly does no one any good (fuel volatility is usually given as Reid Vapor Pressure). In CA, at least, fuels are formulated to be more volatile in the winter--for cold starting--than in the summer--to limit smog (UK fuel may be equivalent to CA winter blends). Anyone else have Healeys that smell of fuel? Am I just lucky, or have the VOC receptors in my nose been fried? Is this an endemic European problem? I haven't been around any Healeys in good nick that smelled of gas--burning oil, well, that's another topic (but I haven't smelled any Healeys in Europe). bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Bob All I say is that unless we can go back to less volatile fuel here in the UK or insulate the pump and pipes over the exhaust pipe, then vaporised fuel as a gas has to come out of the carburettor overflow vents. This creates a smell. I agree that this is potentially dangerous and the only saving grace on a 100 with an 'M' style airbox is that these overflow fumes are drawn back into the engine. Regards >If your Healey 'smells like a gas tank' there's something wrong (and >possibly a fire hazard). > >bs -- John Harper _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk From warthodson at aol.com Wed Jul 28 13:59:10 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:59:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration In-Reply-To: <4C505488.6040408@comcast.net> References: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4C502F81.1070201@comcast.net> <8CCFC71A0A01EB2-A88-2318@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com> <4C505488.6040408@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CCFCA67ADF188B-115C-37E@webmail-d072.sysops.aol.com> You are correct, I did miss your point! I thought we were discussing Austin-Healeys. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Baldwin To: warthodson at aol.com Cc: gmandas at yahoo.com; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 11:02 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration The point is that there is no throttle kick down switch on the Volvo system. You must have totally missed the point of my post. From Editorgary at aol.com Wed Jul 28 14:17:43 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:17:43 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Too hot? Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/10 10:41:06 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Water boils at 212F [under normal pressure]. if you are showing 212 it > is too > hot and outside the design spec for the motor on a long term basis. > Indicative of a cooling system problem. As you see, most folks run at 190 > in > hot weather with a healthy cooling system. > A second-hand quote from Donald Healey about the question of what temperature the cars should run at, was that if he had it to do over, he wouldn't have put numbers on the gas gauge. He noted that they had run the record cars at 212-220 for the entire period of the record efforts. Gary From rdryman1 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 28 15:23:27 2010 From: rdryman1 at yahoo.com (Richard Dryman) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] : PCV valve- from Pep Boys In-Reply-To: <1407555986.675979.1280343749098.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1407555986.675979.1280343749098.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <36318.68182.qm@web110315.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I am considering change but hesitate to cut an original hose that is concours ready; Points off Gold w/o fabric pattern 1/2" hose? Anyway, I am definitely not concours quality. If anyone is going for Gold and would want this, offer me off list. photo>>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YxQ5Dmd3InaHTiOduk956w?feat=di rectlink ________________________________ From: Bob Spidell To: John Sims Cc: Healey List Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 3:02:29 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: FW: PCV valve- from Pep Boys Note the PCV causes the rear carb to run a little leaner (at least it did on my BJ8). You might want to enrichen it a tad to compensate. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 28 15:45:34 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:45:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration In-Reply-To: <8CCFCA67ADF188B-115C-37E@webmail-d072.sysops.aol.com> References: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4C502F81.1070201@comcast.net> <8CCFC71A0A01EB2-A88-2318@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com> <4C505488.6040408@comcast.net> <8CCFCA67ADF188B-115C-37E@webmail-d072.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C50A4FE.2060506@justbrits.com> << You are correct, I did miss your point! I thought we were discussing Austin-Healeys. Gary Hodson >> Gary, the "Subject:" SAYS [even on this post] Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration Rick's post plainly SAID "........Volvo......" and I just re-read it and A-H is NOT mentioned anywhere ?!?!? Ed From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 28 15:50:21 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:50:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection In-Reply-To: <466290802.664100.1280332851673.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <466290802.664100.1280332851673.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C50A61D.1090305@justbrits.com> << Anyone else have Healeys that smell of fuel? >> Not since about 10 months after I got my car, Bob [which is around 25 year ago] !! Also 'tank' culprit !! LOL Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Jul 28 16:24:57 2010 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:24:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] : PCV valve- from Pep Boys In-Reply-To: <36318.68182.qm@web110315.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1407555986.675979.1280343749098.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <36318.68182.qm@web110315.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Richard, Excellent breather hose. Is this stuff available? 90 degree elbow too? As for Concours judging, it would be a small matter to temporarily remove the PCV hose and fitting, go through the judging, then reinstall and carry on. Rich Chrysler -------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Dryman" Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:23 PM To: "Bob Spidell" Cc: "Healey List" Subject: Re: [Healeys] : PCV valve- from Pep Boys > I am considering change but hesitate to cut an original hose that is > concours > ready; Points off Gold w/o fabric pattern 1/2" hose? Anyway, I am > definitely > not > concours quality. If anyone is going for Gold and would want this, offer > me off > list. > photo>>>> > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YxQ5Dmd3InaHTiOduk956w?feat=di > rectlink > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bob Spidell > > To: John Sims > Cc: Healey List > > Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 3:02:29 PM > Subject: Re: > [Healeys] FW: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: FW: PCV valve- from Pep Boys > > Note the PCV > causes the rear carb to run a little leaner (at least it did on my > BJ8). You > might want to enrichen it a tad to compensate. > > > > bs > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richchrysler at quickclic.net From s.hutchings at rogers.com Wed Jul 28 16:43:12 2010 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:43:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Shock bolt torque Message-ID: Was there a consensus, the last time this was discussed, on the torque for the shock mount bolts? My original threads were in good shape. I want to put flat washers under the lock washers, so that the lock washers don't dig into the alloy......opinions? Stephen, BJ8 From jagwarman at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 16:46:47 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:46:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches Message-ID: If I could just find a woman that liked the old cars I would be set for life. Instead they say they like them but they really don't . Old saying women are put on this earth to SQUASH every mans dreams . Humm seems so sometimes ha ha From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jul 28 17:02:00 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Shock bolt torque In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1346708166.689226.1280358120885.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> What works for me: Front shocks: Grade 8 flatwashers under the bolt heads (no lockwashers), clean threads, blue Locktite, torque to 35ft-lbs Rear shocks: Grade 8 flatwashers under the bolt heads, lockwashers under the nuts, (optional) Locktite, torque to 35ft-lbs bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Was there a consensus, the last time this was discussed, on the torque for the shock mount bolts? My original threads were in good shape. I want to put flat washers under the lock washers, so that the lock washers don't dig into the alloy......opinions? Stephen, BJ8 From jpayne at ThorCon.net Wed Jul 28 17:03:01 2010 From: jpayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:03:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My wife has tolerated and been enthusiastic about my hobby for years (probably because it keeps me home instead of drinking and chasing other women) She enjoys short trips, club events and rallys but has no interest in using one of the antiques as a daily driver or of taking a long trip in one. All things considered, I'm happy that she tolerates it at all, given the expense, time spent and the fact that there are always 3 project cars sitting around where her car should be. I can't complain. Jonas Payne PBR "This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender(s) at (702) 269-2007 and delete all copies from your system. 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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 28 17:15:42 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:15:42 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration In-Reply-To: <4C50A4FE.2060506@justbrits.com> References: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com>, <4C502F81.1070201@comcast.net>, <8CCFC71A0A01EB2-A88-2318@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com>, <4C505488.6040408@comcast.net>, <8CCFCA67ADF188B-115C-37E@webmail-d072.sysops.aol.com>, <4C50A4FE.2060506@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Maybe it was an AH driving a Volvo? > > << You are correct, I did miss your point! I thought we were discussing > Austin-Healeys. > Gary Hodson >> > > Gary, the "Subject:" SAYS [even on this post] > > > Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration > > > Rick's post plainly SAID "........Volvo......" and I just re-read it > and A-H is NOT mentioned anywhere ?!?!? > > Ed From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Jul 28 17:35:32 2010 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:35:32 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <91FD2F2D3290465CB6B05BB08D146688@GregPC> I am curious as to at what point in the evening these various women on dates inform you of their healey induced headaches :) Actually I too have experienced the fairer sex being much more sensitive to car smells, a while back a car freind of mine and I took the wives out in his Sunbeam Imp, I though it was pretty cool alll four of us driving around (and fitting pretty well in this car about the size of a mini) in this spiffy old subcompact, but before long the comment from the back seat was it "smells like gas". Whenever I come in for a drive from whatever old british roadster I have running at the moment I "smell like gas". I personally find the mild smell of exhaust, hot oil, gas and the general musty smell of an old british roadster to be a mild and pleasant intoxicant, but apparently most women don't agree. That being said the wife is pretty tolerant of the fixation I have with these old cars and the time money and attention they get, so I can't complain too much. Greg Lemon From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 17:42:41 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:42:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Glad I met the only old car, old train , now old guy loving woman in the world On Jul 28, 2010 3:53 PM, "Frederich Ficke" wrote: If I could just find a woman that liked the old cars I would be set for life. Instead they say they like them but they really don't . Old saying women are put on this earth to SQUASH every mans dreams . Humm seems so sometimes ha ha _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jul 28 18:07:15 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:07:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100728200715.67JNU.17426.root@pamxwww03-z01> Not mine:) She LOVES them and won't even think of riding in them w/o the top down. She is ready to go for a ride in them at a moments notice. ---- Frederich Ficke wrote: ============= If I could just find a woman that liked the old cars I would be set for life. Instead they say they like them but they really don't . Old saying women are put on this earth to SQUASH every mans dreams . Humm seems so sometimes ha ha _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Wed Jul 28 18:09:08 2010 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:09:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001501cb2eb2$45cdc240$d16946c0$@com> I know Eric Grunden designed a really nice port injection unit for a car he was doing. Bruce Brea, CA 1960 BN7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frederich Ficke Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:15 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Injection I was checking out Healey's on Youtube and came across a guy who has designed a throttle body fuel injection system on a tri carb car. If you haven't seen this you should watch it. Does anyone here have any thoughts on this. It would be nice to have a healey that would start like a modern car and not always smell like a gas tank. I know it is part of the experience to have those odors when driving a healey however, women really don't like it. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeybruce at roadrunner.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 18:26:37 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:26:37 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches In-Reply-To: <91FD2F2D3290465CB6B05BB08D146688@GregPC> References: <91FD2F2D3290465CB6B05BB08D146688@GregPC> Message-ID: Actually, to be fair, you should almost never smell gas, even in a British car. If you do, there's a leak at a junction somewhere, the carbs are overflowing, or the tank is leaking. All fixable. Pre 60's LBCs you'll smell gas when filling up... due to tank vent pipes. On 7/29/10, Greg Lemon wrote: > I am curious as to at what point in the evening these various women on dates > inform you of their healey induced headaches :) > > Actually I too have experienced the fairer sex being much more sensitive to > car smells, a while back a car freind of mine and I took the wives out > in his Sunbeam Imp, I though it was pretty cool alll four of us driving > around (and fitting pretty well in this car about the size of a mini) in > this spiffy > old subcompact, but before long the comment from the back seat was it > "smells like gas". Whenever I come in for a drive from whatever old british > roadster > I have running at the moment I "smell like gas". I personally find the mild > smell of exhaust, hot oil, gas and the general musty smell of an old british > roadster to > be a mild and pleasant intoxicant, but apparently most women don't agree. > > That being said the wife is pretty tolerant of the fixation I have with > these old cars and the time money and attention they get, so I can't > complain too much. > > Greg Lemon > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Wed Jul 28 18:36:56 2010 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:36:56 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration In-Reply-To: <4C502F81.1070201@comcast.net> References: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4C502F81.1070201@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3F6B02410E80C246B6B83165C250C21502BF3376AE@SLUGPEXMC02.central.det.win> G'day I can't resist putting my 2 bobs worth into this discussion. >From my experience from 39 years of Austin-Healey ownership I have found the Laycock de Normanville to be an extremely robust piece of machinery providing of course it is in good working order. The thought of people being delicate with the OD I find quite amusing. An Austin-Healey is meant to be enjoyed and driven spiritedly. Sorry but there is no comparison between the style of driving called for from an Austin-Healey to that of a Volvo and I don't mean any disservice to Volvo owners. The OD cut-out switch on the BN3 is set up so that when I push the accelerator it cuts out of OD into direct drive and thus provides instant and strong acceleration. It's a buzz! Conversely when I am accelerating strongly in direct top and want to change into OD it's a simple matter of flicking the switch and momentarily lifting off. And yes I coast and slow while in gear and OD. The OD is one of the magic features of an Austin-Healey and you should all get out on the open road and drive these cars as they were designed to be driven. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charlie Baldwin Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 11:24 PM To: Greg Mandas; healey list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration Greg, It seems that Austin-Healeys are one of the few makes that used a system to allow the overdrive to drop out only on acceleration. I've owned several Volvos with Laycock overdrives, both D and J type, and there was no provision for this on any of them. One car that was in my possession for a while, an MG TD with Volvo B18 engine and D type OD trans. would actually chirp the tires if you flipped off the OD switch when decelerating, so using the clutch made it much less harsh. The Volvo owner's manuals actually tell you to use the clutch if the engagement or disengagement of the overdrive was too harsh. No mention of damaging the unit; they seemed to be more concerned about comfort. The overdrive is, of course, is one of the main parts of the drive train and Volvos of that period were known for their longevity, more so than most any other brand. There is a Volvo 1800 on Long Island, NY that has over 2.5 million miles on it. That car has a Laycock OD unit. Volvo also probably put more Laycock overdrives into cars than any other manufacturer. Perhaps there is something about the A type overdrive in an Austin-Healey that makes it more fragile, but I believe that it is very similar to a D type, though more robust. Charlie ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From insptwo at msn.com Wed Jul 28 18:56:58 2010 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:56:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I must admit that the lady of my life (for the last 50 years plus) loves the Healey. She has helped me numerous times and always encourages me in everything Healey related. We put the top down and just went out for an early morning spin on tuesday. When she taught school, she drove it several times to where she taught so she could show it off to her students (who loved the car). I consider myself well blessed! Bill BJ7 > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:42:41 -0700 > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > To: jagwarman at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Women and headaches > > Glad I met the only old car, old train , now old guy loving woman in the > world > > On Jul 28, 2010 3:53 PM, "Frederich Ficke" wrote: > > If I could just find a woman that liked the old cars I would be set for > life. Instead they say they like them but they really don't . Old saying > women are put on this earth to SQUASH every mans dreams . Humm seems so > sometimes ha ha From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 28 18:57:42 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:57:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] British Car Photography Website In-Reply-To: <8CCFCB5A2547C08-1344-10DA@Webmail-d107.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCFCB5A2547C08-1344-10DA@Webmail-d107.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C50D206.4070209@justbrits.com> From the MGs AutoX List !!! This is a commercial site, but the pictures are STUNNING... mostly from BMHIT http://www.motorgraphs.com/index.php I'm a Farina Magnette fan, so seeing 4-5 period photos I'd never seen was very interesting to me. -John I DO have one of the ORIGINAL AH "Sports Convt" brochures For Sale on my site, FWIW, FYI, etc. !! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] From jagwarman at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 19:23:49 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:23:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] women and headaches Message-ID: I told my last girlfriend the same thing . Cars are better than me chasing women but then she said I spent more time with the cars than her humm she is gone wonder what that means ah more time for my cars. I did have a girlfriend she got so mad at me over the cars she was going to take a pick axe to my Mercedes. I said see ya Lol From jagwarman at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 19:31:43 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:31:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors Message-ID: I hate the factory exhaust on these BJ8's . I have even given thoughts that after the header pipes I am going to install two glass packs and run the pipes out in front of the rear wheel . I like noise just not sure how load it would really be. I have just gotten really tired of dragging the exhaust system that is on it . I drag it on inclines and over speedbumps . It is amazing it is still even on the car the way I drive it. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Jul 28 19:34:54 2010 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] British Car Photography Website In-Reply-To: <4C50D206.4070209@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <336584.75209.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Very interesting shots, some of which I haven't seen. Thanks for posting. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 7/28/10, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: From: Shop at " Just Brits " Subject: [Healeys] British Car Photography Website To: "4 - Healeys" , "4 - Jensen-Cars" Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 8:57 PM >From the MGs AutoX List !!! This is a commercial site, but the pictures are STUNNING... mostly from BMHIT http://www.motorgraphs.com/index.php I'm a Farina Magnette fan, so seeing 4-5 period photos I'd never seen was very interesting to me. -John I DO have one of the ORIGINAL AH "Sports Convt" brochures For Sale on my site, FWIW, FYI, etc. !! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 19:48:33 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:48:33 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fredrich - Fifteen years ago I rebuilt the suspension complete with new rear springs on my BJ8, and also worked to get the exhaust firmly installed just under the floor boards (w/o touching the chassis) and I can tell you I have not had any problems with scraping my exhaust, even with spirited driving. I did all this because I spent the money to get a SS exhaust. I think in that 15 years I've scraped my exhaust maybe two times, lightly (no damage). Speed bumps are never a problem (i.e. my shocks are working properly). If you are dragging exhaust either your pipes aren't mounted properly or your suspension is worn out. Alan On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Frederich Ficke wrote: > I hate the factory exhaust on these BJ8's . I have even given thoughts that > after the header pipes I am going to install two glass packs and run the > pipes out in front of the rear wheel . I like noise just not sure how load > it would really be. I have just gotten really tired of dragging the exhaust > system that is on it . I drag it on inclines and over speedbumps . It is > amazing it is still even on the car the way I drive it. From haywoodone at hotmail.com Wed Jul 28 19:54:04 2010 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:54:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Overdrive Deceleration In-Reply-To: References: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com>, <4C502F81.1070201@comcast.net>, <3F6B02410E80C246B6B83165C250C21502BF3376AE@SLUGPEXMC02.central.det.win>, Message-ID: From: haywoodone at hotmail.com To: patrick.quinn at det.nsw.edu.au; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:31:36 -0400 Greg, I'm with Patrick on this one. I've had the pleasure of driving a '66 Volvo 1800s for 18 yrs as my daily driver before parking it because of a broken rod in 1990. I drove it hard and drove it long all through college in Virginia, to Colorado for a couple years of "get my head straight" skiing, then to South Dakota for more education, and finally back east to North Carolina. I never changed the tranny/OD oil or checked it once. All I did was drive it until it would delay shifting into OD for a few seconds, then get out my 1/2in galv.pipe extention with 4-5 ft. of garden hose attached and stick it into the fill hole, fill it till it ran over with 30 wt ND and get in and drive the heck out of it more. Never once did it let me down. Although I am new to Healey's (5yrs., 3 since the resto) I drive my bj8 just as hard, however I do take a little more precaution checking the fluids since the Volvo cost $1200 in 1972 and the Healey cost, well, a little more in 2005. I will drive all day in OD, downshift by blipping the accelerator pedal, drive hard up the gears, flip the OD switch in 3rd with it floored (that's something the Volvo didn't do), pass or go up a hill by using the throttle switch and accelerating in 3rd or 4th, also let off the accelerator and motor brake down in OD. We've driven to San diego, Kingston, Galena, and all over the NC and Va mountains and coast and never a problem with the OD. It is tough--I don't think you have to baby it. Drive it like you stole it. Happy Healeying!! Take care, George Haywood '65 bj8 >> G'day> > >From my experience from 39 years of Austin-Healey ownership I have found the > Laycock de Normanville to be an extremely robust piece of machinery providing > of course it is in good working order. > > The thought of people being delicate with the OD I find quite amusing. An > Austin-Healey is meant to be enjoyed and driven spiritedly. Sorry but there is > no comparison between the style of driving called for from an Austin-Healey to > that of a Volvo and I don't mean any disservice to Volvo owners. > The OD is one of the magic features of an Austin-Healey and you should all get > out on the open road and drive these cars as they were designed to be driven. > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Jul 28 20:55:12 2010 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:55:12 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?gas_smell?= Message-ID: <20100729025512.24197.qmail@server278.com> a club member has a BT7 that he said smelled of gas when he drove it and wanted me to take a look at it. i drove it and did not smell gas while driving, but at idle i did smell it. investigation revealed most of the grommets missing and various vents into cockpit. i told him to get those fixed and we would check it again. that was a few years ago and i am not sure the task has been completed, but i am not sure this would cure the problem. could not see any leaks anywhere, so am just guessing at cause. hjim From m.fawcett at verizon.net Wed Jul 28 21:01:16 2010 From: m.fawcett at verizon.net (m.fawcett) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:01:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I guess I got lucky. I had a 70 Cuda convertible that I had had for about 12 years and was in need of resto & I was trying to decide if I should sell or restore. My wife told me "you're not selling, so get to work". A few years later, it was time to get her a new car, she said it had to be a convertible & a stick. When I got the Healey, she supported me all the way during the 3 1/2 year resto & loves riding in it. Mark On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Frederich Ficke wrote: > If I could just find a woman that liked the old cars I would be set for > life. Instead they say they like them but they really don't . Old saying > women are put on this earth to SQUASH every mans dreams . Humm seems so > sometimes ha ha From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 28 21:03:30 2010 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:03:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Zinc or Stainless Steel Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20100728200147.01fed420@pop.att.yahoo.com> For people that are not restoring their cars to concours standards are you replacing most screws and bolts with stainless steel or using zinc coated ones? TIA John Spaur '62 BT7 From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Jul 28 21:08:59 2010 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:08:59 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?o/d?= Message-ID: <20100729030859.9567.qmail@server278.com> i remember this subject going around 5 or 6 years ago and i related to the list about the old british car mechanic in portland who had raced healeys for years and he said they always wired around the throttle switch and just banged the o/d in and out with the dash switch. he said the o/d was very robust and they never had trouble with it. i do not race so i had no reason to see if this was a true statement. i do not baby the o/d and use it going up and down moutains, but i certainly do not abuse it. i have a spare o/d so will probably never have a problem. hjim From jagwarman at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 21:30:16 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:30:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] women and headaches Message-ID: My gosh what a topic , all kinds of responses and great ones at that. I guess I now have it figured from you guys . You all are married that means your more tolerant than I am of the opposing sex. I guess I should keep my topics to healeys only and leave women out of the mix. Lol From jagwarman at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 21:37:49 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:37:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors Message-ID: My old healey is unrestored and I hate to admit it but the suspension is tired and sits a bit low compared to restored examples I have seen. Although so many BJ8's that I see sit quite high in the rear end area this probably helps with exhaust drag. My car only has 3 inches clearance under the front mufflers. The exhaust is relatively new and seals well . I also have no fuel leaks . I have wondered if my fuel odor comes comes from the gas cap. Years ago I changed the standard cap over to a AC Cobra style flip lid . From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 21:43:37 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:43:37 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] women and headaches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My wife and I went on our first date in my ratty Healey over 30 years ago. She is excited thst I am finally completing the resto. And spending time once again working on the car. She shares my love for old cars, Cheers On Jul 28, 2010 8:40 PM, "Frederich Ficke" wrote: My gosh what a topic , all kinds of responses and great ones at that. I guess I now have it figured from you guys . You all are married that means your more tolerant than I am of the opposing sex. I guess I should keep my topics to healeys only and leave women out of the mix. Lol _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/d... From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 21:56:26 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:56:26 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frederich - Quite possibly pinhole leaks under the gas tank. Very common problem as the metal tank sits right on top of the boot floor, causing a perfect trap for water. When you open the boot does it smell like fuel? Alan On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Frederich Ficke wrote: > My old healey is unrestored and I hate to admit it but the suspension is > tired and sits a bit low compared to restored examples I have seen. > Although > so many BJ8's that I see sit quite high in the rear end area this probably > helps with exhaust drag. My car only has 3 inches clearance under the front > mufflers. The exhaust is relatively new and seals well . I also have no > fuel > leaks . > I have wondered if my fuel odor comes comes from the gas cap. Years ago I > changed the standard cap over to a AC Cobra style flip lid . From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 21:59:13 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:59:13 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Deceleration In-Reply-To: <3F6B02410E80C246B6B83165C250C21502BF3376AE@SLUGPEXMC02.central.det.win> References: <691777.86645.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4C502F81.1070201@comcast.net> <3F6B02410E80C246B6B83165C250C21502BF3376AE@SLUGPEXMC02.central.det.win> Message-ID: Patrick - Yep, I agree, that OD is more or less bullet proof. No need to be careful unless you remove the R-2 lockout switch! Alan On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Quinn, Patrick < Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au> wrote: > G'day > > I can't resist putting my 2 bobs worth into this discussion. > > >From my experience from 39 years of Austin-Healey ownership I have found > the > Laycock de Normanville to be an extremely robust piece of machinery > providing > of course it is in good working order. > > The thought of people being delicate with the OD I find quite amusing. An > Austin-Healey is meant to be enjoyed and driven spiritedly. Sorry but there > is > no comparison between the style of driving called for from an Austin-Healey > to > that of a Volvo and I don't mean any disservice to Volvo owners. > > The OD cut-out switch on the BN3 is set up so that when I push the > accelerator > it cuts out of OD into direct drive and thus provides instant and strong > acceleration. It's a buzz! Conversely when I am accelerating strongly in > direct top and want to change into OD it's a simple matter of flicking the > switch and momentarily lifting off. And yes I coast and slow while in gear > and > OD. > > The OD is one of the magic features of an Austin-Healey and you should all > get > out on the open road and drive these cars as they were designed to be > driven. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia From richard.ewald at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 22:42:37 2010 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:42:37 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] British Car Photography Website In-Reply-To: <4C50D206.4070209@justbrits.com> References: <8CCFCB5A2547C08-1344-10DA@Webmail-d107.sysops.aol.com> <4C50D206.4070209@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Check this one out! Sometimes advertising tells you more by what they don't say, rather than by what they do say. http://www.motorgraphs.com/image.php?id=416981&idx=2&fromsearch=true You will note the Lucas factory in the background has no lights on. Rick On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > From the MGs AutoX List !!! > > > > This is a commercial site, but the pictures are STUNNING... mostly from > BMHIT > > http://www.motorgraphs.com/index.php > > I'm a Farina Magnette fan, so seeing 4-5 period photos I'd never seen was > very > interesting to me. > > -John > > > > I DO have one of the ORIGINAL AH "Sports Convt" brochures > For Sale on my site, FWIW, FYI, etc. !! > > Ed > Please visit MY site at: > www.justbrits.com > [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the > For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.] > [and MOST is for Big Healey folks] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From ynotink at msn.com Wed Jul 28 22:45:54 2010 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:45:54 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: On the 100s the fuel filler vents into the trunk. I've been thinking about running a vent tube to the nearest wheel well. Just another project to add to the list. Bill Lawrence > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:56:26 +0800 > From: healey.nut at gmail.com > To: jagwarman at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel odors > > Frederich - > > Quite possibly pinhole leaks under the gas tank. Very common problem as the > metal tank sits right on top of the boot floor, causing a perfect trap for > water. > > When you open the boot does it smell like fuel? > > Alan > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Frederich Ficke wrote: > > > My old healey is unrestored and I hate to admit it but the suspension is > > tired and sits a bit low compared to restored examples I have seen. > > Although > > so many BJ8's that I see sit quite high in the rear end area this probably > > helps with exhaust drag. My car only has 3 inches clearance under the front > > mufflers. The exhaust is relatively new and seals well . I also have no > > fuel > > leaks . > > I have wondered if my fuel odor comes comes from the gas cap. Years ago I > > changed the standard cap over to a AC Cobra style flip lid . > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Wed Jul 28 23:45:01 2010 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:45:01 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors Message-ID: No need to do that. Charlie Hart has developed a great fix for the 100 gas cap. Best to have him describe it, but I have one on my 100 and it vents all of the gas vapor out of the trunk through a tube connected to the gas cap and then a brass tube out through the bumper grommet. It works great and I no longer have any gas fumes in my trunk. I can travel and pack whatever I want in my trunk and when I unpack, the ode de healey does not permeate anything anymore. It's great. Charlie is part of this list and if you want your 100 trunk fume free, you should contact him at: _hartcg at msn.com_ (mailto:hartcg at msn.com) By the way, he's more than reasonable on the price for this fix and if you own a 100, it's a great investment. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 7/28/2010 9:55:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ynotink at msn.com writes: On the 100s the fuel filler vents into the trunk. I've been thinking about running a vent tube to the nearest wheel well. Just another project to add to the list. Bill Lawrence > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:56:26 +0800 > From: healey.nut at gmail.com > To: jagwarman at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel odors > > Frederich - > > Quite possibly pinhole leaks under the gas tank. Very common problem as the > metal tank sits right on top of the boot floor, causing a perfect trap for > water. > > When you open the boot does it smell like fuel? > > Alan > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Frederich Ficke wrote: > > > My old healey is unrestored and I hate to admit it but the suspension is > > tired and sits a bit low compared to restored examples I have seen. > > Although > > so many BJ8's that I see sit quite high in the rear end area this probably > > helps with exhaust drag. My car only has 3 inches clearance under the front > > mufflers. The exhaust is relatively new and seals well . I also have no > > fuel > > leaks . > > I have wondered if my fuel odor comes comes from the gas cap. Years ago I > > changed the standard cap over to a AC Cobra style flip lid . > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ynotink at msn.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/atightprod at aol.com From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Thu Jul 29 00:47:06 2010 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:47:06 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Zinc or Stainless Steel In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20100728200147.01fed420@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20100728200147.01fed420@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1094B0BE@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> John, Even restoring my cars to Concours Standard (European style), I use stainless steel bolts wherever its possible, except engine internals, some BSF and other threads I can`t get in stainless steel, and suspension. All others are stainless steel on my cars and I love it. They do not discolour, can be easily polished, length cut to the needed etc. Lots of advantages in my mind. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany 54BN1, 62BT7, 65Sprite and others -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von john spaur Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Juli 2010 05:04 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] Zinc or Stainless Steel For people that are not restoring their cars to concours standards are you replacing most screws and bolts with stainless steel or using zinc coated ones? TIA John Spaur From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 29 01:01:38 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:01:38 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Zinc or Stainless Steel In-Reply-To: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1094B0BE@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20100728200147.01fed420@pop.att.yahoo.com> <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1094B0BE@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Message-ID: Josef - You can order BSF & BA screws/bolts in SS from here: http://www.polished-stainless.com/ I just did probably 80-90% of the bolts, screws and nuts on my A90 from them. He has most sizes and lengths, and several oddball stuff like aerotite nuts and thin nuts. He doesn't have everything, but anything standard he'll have. Nice guy, but takes a little time to fill larger orders. Alan On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:47 PM, wrote: > John, > Even restoring my cars to Concours Standard (European style), I use > stainless > steel bolts wherever its possible, except engine internals, some BSF and > other > threads I can`t get in stainless steel, and suspension. All others are > stainless steel on my cars and I love it. They do not discolour, can be > easily > polished, length cut to the needed etc. Lots of advantages in my mind. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > 54BN1, 62BT7, 65Sprite and others > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > Im > Auftrag von john spaur > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Juli 2010 05:04 > An: healeys at autox.team.net > Betreff: [Healeys] Zinc or Stainless Steel > > For people that are not restoring their cars to concours standards are you > replacing most screws and bolts with stainless steel or using zinc coated > ones? > > TIA > John Spaur > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jul 29 01:15:46 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:15:46 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Zinc or Stainless Steel In-Reply-To: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1094B0BE@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20100728200147.01fed420@pop.att.yahoo.com> <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1094B0BE@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Message-ID: <4C512AA2.3080007@chello.nl> You can use stainless steel bolts, nuts and washers on steel to steel constructions, but NOT on steel to aluminium because of severe electrolytic reactions. In that case use zinc or cadmium plated washers, bolts, nuts and screws. If you can get hold of them you can use titanium aircraft bolts and nuts. In the late sixties I was apprentice at Fokker Aerospace and also had access to the workshops where they build and overhauled their aircraft. All used bolts, nuts and plates were scrapped and replaced with new ones as standard procedure. Some were of titanium, very tough stuff, better than grade 8. The used material was perfectly alright and I collected quite a lot of it. I still use bolts and nuts from that hoard. Practically all is UNF thread. Kees Oudesluijs NL Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com wrote: > John, > Even restoring my cars to Concours Standard (European style), I use stainless > steel bolts wherever its possible, except engine internals, some BSF and other > threads I can`t get in stainless steel, and suspension. All others are > stainless steel on my cars and I love it. They do not discolour, can be easily > polished, length cut to the needed etc. Lots of advantages in my mind. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > 54BN1, 62BT7, 65Sprite and others [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Thu Jul 29 01:42:44 2010 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:42:44 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, Alan, if speed bumps are never a problem for you, you have never been driving in my country! Recently I drove over one at 30 mph and for a moment I was afraid it broke my frame. 45 degrees slope up, then about 6 inches horizontal and then 45 degrees downslope - I can assure you I crept over the remaining bumps in that village! More and more we are faced with 30 km ( 18 ml) speed limits in town and village areas and the way to remind you of that limit is now frequently a speed bump every 100 yards or so. Can you image what fire engine and ambulance drivers' opinion is? Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2010/7/29 Alan Seigrist > Fredrich - > > Fifteen years ago I rebuilt the suspension complete with new rear springs > on > my BJ8, and also worked to get the exhaust firmly installed just under the > floor boards (w/o touching the chassis) and I can tell you I have not had > any problems with scraping my exhaust, even with spirited driving. I did > all this because I spent the money to get a SS exhaust. I think in that 15 > years I've scraped my exhaust maybe two times, lightly (no damage). Speed > bumps are never a problem (i.e. my shocks are working properly). > > If you are dragging exhaust either your pipes aren't mounted properly or > your suspension is worn out. > > Alan > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Frederich Ficke >wrote: > > > I hate the factory exhaust on these BJ8's . I have even given thoughts > that > > after the header pipes I am going to install two glass packs and run the > > pipes out in front of the rear wheel . I like noise just not sure how > load > > it would really be. I have just gotten really tired of dragging the > exhaust > > system that is on it . I drag it on inclines and over speedbumps . It is > > amazing it is still even on the car the way I drive it. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/j.aeckerlin at gmail.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 29 01:51:11 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:51:11 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That doesn't sound like a speed bump, that sounds like a speed Matterhorn! Alan On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Jaap Aeckerlin wrote: > Well, Alan, if speed bumps are never a problem for you, you have never been > driving in my country! > Recently I drove over one at 30 mph and for a moment I was afraid it > broke my frame. 45 degrees slope up, then about 6 inches horizontal and then > 45 degrees downslope - I can assure you I crept over the remaining bumps in > that village! More and more we are faced with 30 km ( 18 ml) speed limits in > town and village areas and the way to remind you of that limit is now > frequently a speed bump every 100 yards or so. Can you image what fire > engine and ambulance drivers' opinion is? > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > 1964 BJ8 29432 From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Thu Jul 29 02:04:53 2010 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:04:53 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1094B241@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Jack, forgive me for that. "I always thought in The Netherlands fire fighters and emergency services are coming on bicycles." Hope you are well. Josef Alan On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Jaap Aeckerlin wrote: > Well, Alan, if speed bumps are never a problem for you, you have never > been driving in my country! > Recently I drove over one at 30 mph and for a moment I was afraid it > broke my frame. 45 degrees slope up, then about 6 inches horizontal > and then > 45 degrees downslope - I can assure you I crept over the remaining > bumps in that village! More and more we are faced with 30 km ( 18 ml) > speed limits in town and village areas and the way to remind you of > that limit is now frequently a speed bump every 100 yards or so. Can > you image what fire engine and ambulance drivers' opinion is? > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > 1964 BJ8 29432 From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Jul 29 06:14:54 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 8:14:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100729081454.HBPFF.44998.root@pamxwww05-z01> Ditto Alan. tom ---- Alan Seigrist wrote: ============= Fredrich - Fifteen years ago I rebuilt the suspension complete with new rear springs on my BJ8, and also worked to get the exhaust firmly installed just under the floor boards (w/o touching the chassis) and I can tell you I have not had any problems with scraping my exhaust, even with spirited driving. I did all this because I spent the money to get a SS exhaust. I think in that 15 years I've scraped my exhaust maybe two times, lightly (no damage). Speed bumps are never a problem (i.e. my shocks are working properly). If you are dragging exhaust either your pipes aren't mounted properly or your suspension is worn out. Alan On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Frederich Ficke wrote: > I hate the factory exhaust on these BJ8's . I have even given thoughts that > after the header pipes I am going to install two glass packs and run the > pipes out in front of the rear wheel . I like noise just not sure how load > it would really be. I have just gotten really tired of dragging the exhaust > system that is on it . I drag it on inclines and over speedbumps . It is > amazing it is still even on the car the way I drive it. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Jul 29 06:23:30 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 8:23:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] women and headaches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100729082330.MX8P1.45142.root@pamxwww05-z01> Once, when I was in college, I went to a used car lot where my college friend worked part time and asked if I could borrow a Healey that was for sale on the lot for the weekend. They actually let me do it. my wife and I went to the mountains with it. ---- I Erbs wrote: ============= My wife and I went on our first date in my ratty Healey over 30 years ago. She is excited thst I am finally completing the resto. And spending time once again working on the car. She shares my love for old cars, Cheers On Jul 28, 2010 8:40 PM, "Frederich Ficke" wrote: My gosh what a topic , all kinds of responses and great ones at that. I guess I now have it figured from you guys . You all are married that means your more tolerant than I am of the opposing sex. I guess I should keep my topics to healeys only and leave women out of the mix. Lol _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/d... _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Jul 29 06:25:33 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 8:25:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100729082533.PD0VA.45179.root@pamxwww05-z01> You might be right. I have had the gas smell in my E-Type for quite some time and cannot find the source. My next move is to remove the tank ( a MAJOR task) and see if it is intact under it. Tom ---- Alan Seigrist wrote: ============= Frederich - Quite possibly pinhole leaks under the gas tank. Very common problem as the metal tank sits right on top of the boot floor, causing a perfect trap for water. When you open the boot does it smell like fuel? Alan On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Frederich Ficke wrote: > My old healey is unrestored and I hate to admit it but the suspension is > tired and sits a bit low compared to restored examples I have seen. > Although > so many BJ8's that I see sit quite high in the rear end area this probably > helps with exhaust drag. My car only has 3 inches clearance under the front > mufflers. The exhaust is relatively new and seals well . I also have no > fuel > leaks . > I have wondered if my fuel odor comes comes from the gas cap. Years ago I > changed the standard cap over to a AC Cobra style flip lid . _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jul 29 06:38:41 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:38:41 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: <20100729081454.HBPFF.44998.root@pamxwww05-z01> References: <20100729081454.HBPFF.44998.root@pamxwww05-z01> Message-ID: <4C517651.3020908@chello.nl> You guys don't know Dutch speedbumps. They can be very short, shorter than the wheelbase, and higher than 6". Kees Oudesluijs NL Tom Felts wrote: > Ditto Alan. > > tom > > ---- Alan Seigrist wrote: > > ============= > Fredrich - > > Fifteen years ago I rebuilt the suspension complete with new rear springs on > my BJ8, and also worked to get the exhaust firmly installed just under the > floor boards (w/o touching the chassis) and I can tell you I have not had > any problems with scraping my exhaust, even with spirited driving. I did > all this because I spent the money to get a SS exhaust. I think in that 15 > years I've scraped my exhaust maybe two times, lightly (no damage). Speed > bumps are never a problem (i.e. my shocks are working properly). > > If you are dragging exhaust either your pipes aren't mounted properly or > your suspension is worn out. > > Alan > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Frederich Ficke wrote: > > >> I hate the factory exhaust on these BJ8's . I have even given thoughts that >> after the header pipes I am going to install two glass packs and run the >> pipes out in front of the rear wheel . I like noise just not sure how load >> it would really be. I have just gotten really tired of dragging the exhaust >> system that is on it . I drag it on inclines and over speedbumps . It is >> amazing it is still even on the car the way I drive it. >> > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3036 - datum van uitgifte: 07/29/10 08:34:00 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 29 07:27:46 2010 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:27:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] o/d In-Reply-To: <20100729030859.9567.qmail@server278.com> References: <20100729030859.9567.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <003301cb2f21$d5a68f40$80f3adc0$@net> Folks, When I bought my 1959 BT7 in 1971 it was missing the overdrive relay and throttle switch. The overdrive worked fine for the 2 or 3 years that I drove the car very hard, inflicting as much abuse into any car that an 18-21 year old could do. After that time, the car went into restoration/storage until 2004 when a frame up restoration was completed. The restoration included a new aftermarket overdrive relay and throttle switch. Everything worked fine until maybe 2008 when either the overdrive relay or throttle switch quit working. I disconnected the appropriately relay to the relay and haven't bothered to investigate what failed since the overdrive still works fine. Rumor has it, according to my wife who initiated the rumor, that I still drive the car like an 18 year old. Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:09 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] o/d i remember this subject going around 5 or 6 years ago and i related to the list about the old british car mechanic in portland who had raced healeys for years and he said they always wired around the throttle switch and just banged the o/d in and out with the dash switch. he said the o/d was very robust and they never had trouble with it. i do not race so i had no reason to see if this was a true statement. i do not baby the o/d and use it going up and down moutains, but i certainly do not abuse it. i have a spare o/d so will probably never have a problem. hjim From mandmschneider at comcast.net Thu Jul 29 07:37:46 2010 From: mandmschneider at comcast.net (Mark Schneider) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:37:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Odors (BJ8 Exhaust System) Message-ID: I agree with Mr Ficke. I love the sound of a Healey and the BJ8 stock muffling is just too much plumbing beneath the car. Shortly after I bought our BJ8 40 years ago I took a hacksaw to the right angle turn in the tail pipes under the boot and extended the pipes straight aft on the driver's side. I have replaced the mufflers twice over the years and maintained the same configuration and enjoyed that wonderful mellow Healey burble at idle and the somewhat more raucous note at full cry. I especially get a kick out of testing theft alarms on other cars as I idle though parking structures. "Chirp...chirp." I think directing the attenuated BJ8 muffling to the side and in front of the rear wheel might be a bit much on long drives. I also have a question for the listers. Currently I have a pair Moss replacement mufflers on the car. They do not fit well as they are slightly too large. In order to line them up with the factory hanger points I had to rotate the mufflers about 15-20 degrees. There are several after market muffler manufacturers producing smaller diameter glass packs. Can anyone recommend a brand name and muffler length that will maintain the Healey sound? I understand the old Cherryi Bombs do not last very long. However, the smaller diameter muffler body of that style will fit better and provide a bit more ground clearance. Marks 3 '66 BJ8 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 29 07:38:41 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:38:41 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: Over here, the speed bumps usually have a cut in them to fit a tire through, or they taper off to nothing near the curb. This may be wrong, but I was told that they were for emergency vehicles to not have to slow down as much. If only one side of the car is going over the speed bump it makes a huge difference. ( Especially if it is the passenger side going over. :)) Driving a RHD car in a LHD country, means the driver's side is near the curb ... Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:42:44 +0200 > > Well, Alan, if speed bumps are never a problem for you, you have never been > driving in my country! > Recently I drove over one at 30 mph and for a moment I was afraid it broke > my frame. 45 degrees slope up, then about 6 inches horizontal and then 45 > degrees downslope - I can assure you I crept over the remaining bumps in > that village! More and more we are faced with 30 km ( 18 ml) speed limits in > town and village areas and the way to remind you of that limit is now > frequently a speed bump every 100 yards or so. Can you image what fire > engine and ambulance drivers' opinion is? > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > 1964 BJ8 29432 From scvc70 at epix.net Thu Jul 29 07:46:44 2010 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:46:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches References: Message-ID: Ira - I can assure you that there's more than just one of us out there! (However, though I also love old boats and old airplanes, I prefer to stick to owning things that will let me get out and walk if something goes wrong....) I do find it strange that--as far as I can tell from the names--I'm the only female who ever posts to this group. Sarah Carr (owner of a BN1 since 1996 and an MG-TD since 1973) ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Erbs" To: "Frederich Ficke" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Women and headaches > Glad I met the only old car, old train , now old guy loving woman in the > world > > On Jul 28, 2010 3:53 PM, "Frederich Ficke" wrote: > > If I could just find a woman that liked the old cars I would be set for > life. Instead they say they like them but they really don't . Old saying > women are put on this earth to SQUASH every mans dreams . Humm seems so > sometimes ha ha > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/scvc70 at epix.net From pennell at cox.net Thu Jul 29 08:04:04 2010 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:04:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Zinc or Stainless Steel In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20100728200147.01fed420@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100729100404.IML8O.1254101.imail@eastrmwml31> Yes, John. On the BN7 is replaced 80% or so with SS. Keith ---- john spaur wrote: > For people that are not restoring their cars to concours standards > are you replacing most screws and bolts with stainless steel or using > zinc coated ones? > > TIA > John Spaur > '62 BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pennell at cox.net From warthodson at aol.com Thu Jul 29 08:15:07 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (pdate) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:15:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] '63 Sebring Message-ID: <8CCFD3F94D790D1-1F74-86D8@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> I recall seeing a high quality image of the '63 Sebring Works cars but cannot seem to find it. Does anyone have a high resolution copy they would send me or point to the correct location? Thanks, Gary Hodson From michel.murphy at gmail.com Thu Jul 29 08:42:06 2010 From: michel.murphy at gmail.com (Michel Murphy) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:42:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Recommendation for a shop to do an engine/transmission rebuild in Ottawa, Canada region Message-ID: Hi all, I've search through the archives for recommendations on what can/should be done while rebuilding the engine. Now I'm looking for recommendations of shops in the area that can do all or part of the engine/transmission (with overdrive) rebuild on my BJ7. Please post responses to me directly. Thanks, Mike '63 BJ7 Ottawa, ON From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Thu Jul 29 08:43:11 2010 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:43:11 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Odors (BJ8 Exhaust System) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001101cb2f2c$634cdfc0$29e69f40$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> My car is right hand drive which helps with side pipe versus noise issues...for the driver anyhow. I took the twin rear pipes off the silencer. I then made up a very precise, full scale, plan of a right-angled twin pipe which mounted on the rear of the silencer, swung through 90 degrees and exited at the side. I took a lot of time and trouble with the measurements. I then had a local guy fashion the real thing in stainless. We were lucky and it fitted first time. It's secure and tight. Looks right and can be swapped back to the original in no time. And it cost #50:00 which is nothing compared to the outrageous cost of the normal offering which is silencer and right angled pipes all in one piece. Of course, I only presume that it'll fit the next silencer that I buy!!!**? However, it does help with grounding issues which are inevitable on our little bumpy Devon lanes. It wasn't difficult and anyone, who access to competent help, could do it. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Schneider Sent: 29 July 2010 14:38 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Odors (BJ8 Exhaust System) I agree with Mr Ficke. I love the sound of a Healey and the BJ8 stock muffling is just too much plumbing beneath the car. Shortly after I bought our BJ8 40 years ago I took a hacksaw to the right angle turn in the tail pipes under the boot and extended the pipes straight aft on the driver's side. I have replaced the mufflers twice over the years and maintained the same configuration and enjoyed that wonderful mellow Healey burble at idle and the somewhat more raucous note at full cry. I especially get a kick out of testing theft alarms on other cars as I idle though parking structures. "Chirp...chirp." I think directing the attenuated BJ8 muffling to the side and in front of the rear wheel might be a bit much on long drives. I also have a question for the listers. Currently I have a pair Moss replacement mufflers on the car. They do not fit well as they are slightly too large. In order to line them up with the factory hanger points I had to rotate the mufflers about 15-20 degrees. There are several after market muffler manufacturers producing smaller diameter glass packs. Can anyone recommend a brand name and muffler length that will maintain the Healey sound? I understand the old Cherryi Bombs do not last very long. However, the smaller diameter muffler body of that style will fit better and provide a bit more ground clearance. Marks 3 '66 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 29 08:51:29 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:51:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Odors (BJ8 Exhaust System) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C519571.7080102@comcast.net> I don't have the data, but have read that the longer BJ8 exhaust actually helps power in some ranges. Exhaust system design is borderline witchcraft, and not necessarily intuitive; i.e. shorter isn't necessarily always better (it depends on bore and stroke, resonant frequencies, etc.). The longer system, I believe, helps low-end torque at the expense of some high-end HP (but I can't prove it). Anyway, when my Ansa mufflers gave up the ghost I used its pipes and some 'Heartthrob' mufflers from JC Whitney: http://www.jcwhitney.com/high-performance-muffler/p2006485.jcwx?filterid=j1 I welded 18-inch mufflers in front, and 15-inch (or 12-inch, can't remember) in back. These mufflers appear to be very well made (in the USA!). The sound is louder and a little harsher than the Ansa's--which are glasspacks, BTW (I learned from an 'autopsy')--which I thought were higher-pitched than stock Healey BJ8 mufflers. Without the small resonators the Ansas have at the tip there is a sharper 'bark.' They are noisier at low speeds, but at cruise speed (+/- 70mph) the cockpit is very quiet (witchcraft). AFAIK, the original mufflers used baffles, and it appears most, if not all of the aftermarket systems--esp. if they call themselves 'performance'--are glasspack. I think glasspacks will deteriorate over time no matter what, but baffled systems will fail eventually as well--the baffles can break off and plug the system, worse than just getting noisier with time as the glasspacks do. bs Mark Schneider wrote: > > > Marks 3 > '66 BJ8 > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Thu Jul 29 11:17:50 2010 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:17:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: <8F2FD30C9F1A48D18F28DEB55C749CF8@LeonardPCPC> One item that I have mentioned before but has not been addressed in this thread is the area around the fuel sending unit. The sending unit is recessed in the top of the gas tank. If you fill your gas tank and the sending unit is not adequately sealed, fuel can seep past the bolts and/or gaskets and fill this recessed area. Only after consuming enough gas from the tank will the fuel level get below the sending unit and the gas smell go away - until the next fill. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Jul 29 11:20:20 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:20:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: <4C517651.3020908@chello.nl> Message-ID: <20100729132020.D6V63.51411.root@pamxwww05-z01> I do--I lived outside Amsterdam for 5 years.:) tom ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= You guys don't know Dutch speedbumps. They can be very short, shorter than the wheelbase, and higher than 6". Kees Oudesluijs NL Tom Felts wrote: > Ditto Alan. > > tom > > ---- Alan Seigrist wrote: > > ============= > Fredrich - > > Fifteen years ago I rebuilt the suspension complete with new rear springs on > my BJ8, and also worked to get the exhaust firmly installed just under the > floor boards (w/o touching the chassis) and I can tell you I have not had > any problems with scraping my exhaust, even with spirited driving. I did > all this because I spent the money to get a SS exhaust. I think in that 15 > years I've scraped my exhaust maybe two times, lightly (no damage). Speed > bumps are never a problem (i.e. my shocks are working properly). > > If you are dragging exhaust either your pipes aren't mounted properly or > your suspension is worn out. > > Alan > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Frederich Ficke wrote: > > >> I hate the factory exhaust on these BJ8's . I have even given thoughts that >> after the header pipes I am going to install two glass packs and run the >> pipes out in front of the rear wheel . I like noise just not sure how load >> it would really be. I have just gotten really tired of dragging the exhaust >> system that is on it . I drag it on inclines and over speedbumps . It is >> amazing it is still even on the car the way I drive it. >> > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3036 - datum van uitgifte: 07/29/10 08:34:00 From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Jul 29 11:32:20 2010 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:32:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] '63 Sebring In-Reply-To: <8CCFD3F94D790D1-1F74-86D8@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCFD3F94D790D1-1F74-86D8@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7C936FDA-853F-48C9-8CE2-7CD215F1F1A1@cox.net> Here's 54 FAC as it looks now: http://www.healeymeetslemans.nl/albums/nieuws/54fac_5.jpg Here are 54 fac and 56 fac: http://www.healeymeetslemans.nl/albums/nieuws/54fac_7.jpg a bunch of info: http://tonblankespoor.nl/projecten/afgeronde-projecten/works-race-austin-healey-3000-mk-iia-54-fac.html goggle is your friend On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:15 AM, pdate wrote: > I recall seeing a high quality image of the '63 Sebring Works cars > but cannot > seem to find it. Does anyone have a high resolution copy they would > send me or > point to the correct > location? > Thanks, > Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Jul 29 12:20:11 2010 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:20:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] '63 Sebring In-Reply-To: <7C936FDA-853F-48C9-8CE2-7CD215F1F1A1@cox.net> References: <8CCFD3F94D790D1-1F74-86D8@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> <7C936FDA-853F-48C9-8CE2-7CD215F1F1A1@cox.net> Message-ID: <60FE36DE-C048-46C6-A5A8-78945F13FDAA@cox.net> I should spell correctly GOOGLE. Let me google that for you: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=1963+sebring+%22Austin+Healey%22+%2254+FAC%22 On Jul 29, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > Here's 54 FAC as it looks now: > http://www.healeymeetslemans.nl/albums/nieuws/54fac_5.jpg > > Here are 54 fac and 56 fac: > http://www.healeymeetslemans.nl/albums/nieuws/54fac_7.jpg > > a bunch of info: > http://tonblankespoor.nl/projecten/afgeronde-projecten/works-race-austin-healey-3000-mk-iia-54-fac.html > > goggle is your friend > > On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:15 AM, pdate wrote: > >> I recall seeing a high quality image of the '63 Sebring Works cars >> but cannot >> seem to find it. Does anyone have a high resolution copy they would >> send me or >> point to the correct >> location? >> Thanks, >> Gary Hodson >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu Jul 29 12:50:29 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:50:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: <8F2FD30C9F1A48D18F28DEB55C749CF8@LeonardPCPC> References: , , <8F2FD30C9F1A48D18F28DEB55C749CF8@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <011001cb2f4e$eabf20e0$c03d62a0$@verizon.net> Yep. Found this out the hard way! My fix was to siphon the gas out until it no longer leaked and then I sealed the gasket. Been OK for a year now so I guess it is holding. It took me a while trying to find this out -- usual suspects, overflowing floats, leak around the pump etc. Then I remembered that I had just replaced the float on the sending unit. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Len and/or Marge Hartnett Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:18 PM To: Healey Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel odors One item that I have mentioned before but has not been addressed in this thread is the area around the fuel sending unit. The sending unit is recessed in the top of the gas tank. If you fill your gas tank and the sending unit is not adequately sealed, fuel can seep past the bolts and/or gaskets and fill this recessed area. Only after consuming enough gas from the tank will the fuel level get below the sending unit and the gas smell go away - until the next fill. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Jul 29 13:21:20 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:21:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100729152120.TI6SH.53635.root@pamxwww05-z01> Hi Sarah---you would also enjoy the E-Type list. There is one lady who posts there and she is VERY active in the Jag world. Great to have the ladies posting. tom ---- Carr&Edwards wrote: ============= Ira - I can assure you that there's more than just one of us out there! (However, though I also love old boats and old airplanes, I prefer to stick to owning things that will let me get out and walk if something goes wrong....) I do find it strange that--as far as I can tell from the names--I'm the only female who ever posts to this group. Sarah Carr (owner of a BN1 since 1996 and an MG-TD since 1973) ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Erbs" To: "Frederich Ficke" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Women and headaches > Glad I met the only old car, old train , now old guy loving woman in the > world > > On Jul 28, 2010 3:53 PM, "Frederich Ficke" wrote: > > If I could just find a woman that liked the old cars I would be set for > life. Instead they say they like them but they really don't . Old saying > women are put on this earth to SQUASH every mans dreams . Humm seems so > sometimes ha ha > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/scvc70 at epix.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Jul 29 13:28:34 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:28:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Odors (BJ8 Exhaust System) In-Reply-To: <4C519571.7080102@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20100729152834.RCYDS.53769.root@pamxwww05-z01> Thanks for the tip Bob because when my ANSA's go, I'll need a back-up plan for replacement. Mine are going on 10 years now. I was lucky enough to find original ANSA resonators to replace mine that had badly deteriorated. I'm hoping for a few more years with them. The mufflers are still solid. tom ---- Bob Spidell wrote: ============= I don't have the data, but have read that the longer BJ8 exhaust actually helps power in some ranges. Exhaust system design is borderline witchcraft, and not necessarily intuitive; i.e. shorter isn't necessarily always better (it depends on bore and stroke, resonant frequencies, etc.). The longer system, I believe, helps low-end torque at the expense of some high-end HP (but I can't prove it). Anyway, when my Ansa mufflers gave up the ghost I used its pipes and some 'Heartthrob' mufflers from JC Whitney: http://www.jcwhitney.com/high-performance-muffler/p2006485.jcwx?filterid=j1 I welded 18-inch mufflers in front, and 15-inch (or 12-inch, can't remember) in back. These mufflers appear to be very well made (in the USA!). The sound is louder and a little harsher than the Ansa's--which are glasspacks, BTW (I learned from an 'autopsy')--which I thought were higher-pitched than stock Healey BJ8 mufflers. Without the small resonators the Ansas have at the tip there is a sharper 'bark.' They are noisier at low speeds, but at cruise speed (+/- 70mph) the cockpit is very quiet (witchcraft). AFAIK, the original mufflers used baffles, and it appears most, if not all of the aftermarket systems--esp. if they call themselves 'performance'--are glasspack. I think glasspacks will deteriorate over time no matter what, but baffled systems will fail eventually as well--the baffles can break off and plug the system, worse than just getting noisier with time as the glasspacks do. bs Mark Schneider wrote: > > > Marks 3 > '66 BJ8 > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Thu Jul 29 13:49:34 2010 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:49:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: we used to have a boy named Sue! cheers, jerry On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Carr&Edwards wrote: > Ira - > > I can assure you that there's more than just one of us out there! > (However, though I also love old boats and old airplanes, I prefer to stick > to owning things that will let me get out and walk if something goes > wrong....) > > I do find it strange that--as far as I can tell from the names--I'm the > only female who ever posts to this group. > > Sarah Carr > (owner of a BN1 since 1996 and an MG-TD since 1973) > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Erbs" > To: "Frederich Ficke" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Women and headaches > > > Glad I met the only old car, old train , now old guy loving woman in the >> world >> >> On Jul 28, 2010 3:53 PM, "Frederich Ficke" wrote: >> >> If I could just find a woman that liked the old cars I would be set for >> life. Instead they say they like them but they really don't . Old saying >> women are put on this earth to SQUASH every mans dreams . Humm seems so >> sometimes ha ha >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/scvc70 at epix.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From insptwo at msn.com Thu Jul 29 13:56:26 2010 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:56:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: > Sarah: The only thing that matters for this group is that you are an owner and driver of a Healey. Many thanks for your posts Bill BJ7.> > I can assure you that there's more than just one of us out there! (However, > though I also love old boats and old airplanes, I prefer to stick to owning > things that will let me get out and walk if something goes wrong....) > > I do find it strange that--as far as I can tell from the names--I'm the only > female who ever posts to this group. > > Sarah Carr > (owner of a BN1 since 1996 and an MG-TD since 1973) > > > > > Glad I met the only old car, old train , now old guy loving woman in the > > world > > > > On Jul 28, 2010 3:53 PM, "Frederich Ficke" wrote: > > > > If I could just find a woman that liked the old cars I would be set for > > life. Instead they say they like them but they really don't . Old saying > > women are put on this earth to SQUASH every mans dreams . Humm seems so > > sometimes ha ha From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 29 13:59:41 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Odors (BJ8 Exhaust System) In-Reply-To: <553250119.732322.1280433490633.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2078517432.732382.1280433581277.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> You're quite welcome. If your resonators and/or mufflers die but the pipes are still OK any muffler shop worth their MIGs should be able to stitch some new mufflers in (they'd probably want to sell you whatever they have, but some might let you bring in 'outside' parts). Or, if you have a sawzall and a welder you can cut your old out, then tack new ones in, then remove the whole system to finish welding the seams. You'll probably want to reuse the brackets on the resonator, and you could reuse the Ansa resonator tips, but I replaced the last section because the pipes were smaller than the muffler output diameter (and smaller than the rest of the Ansa system--not sure why this is, seems like an unnecessary restriction). I also put a crossflow connector between the two pipes ahead of the front mufflers just for the heck of it. I'm trying to learn to weld and this has given me LOTS of opportunities to practice. Also, as my Ansa resonator started to develop holes due to rust and/or impact, I was able to patch it up for several years using some 'steel epoxy' paste--the stuff that comes in one tube that you cut and knead to mix. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Thanks for the tip Bob because when my ANSA's go, I'll need a back-up plan for replacement. Mine are going on 10 years now. I was lucky enough to find original ANSA resonators to replace mine that had badly deteriorated. I'm hoping for a few more years with them. The mufflers are still solid. tom From jeff at pellfam.com Thu Jul 29 14:17:24 2010 From: jeff at pellfam.com (Jeff Pelletier) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:17:24 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Closed system- little confused In-Reply-To: <20100729152834.RCYDS.53769.root@pamxwww05-z01> References: <4C519571.7080102@comcast.net> <20100729152834.RCYDS.53769.root@pamxwww05-z01> Message-ID: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E1504A1@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Ok... im going with the closed radiator system you guys have talked about in earlier post.. but im a bit confused as to how the water/antifreeze gets BACK into the radiator.. We put a gasket ontop of the radiator just below the cap to seal things off--correct.. ... then you have the inlet/outlet hose/pipe.. then at the bottom of the neck you have another gasket with the pressure of the spring on it... as the car cools how is the water going to get past the gasket at the bottom of the neck back into the radiator?? Thanks Jp From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Jul 29 14:39:05 2010 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:39:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Closed system- little confused In-Reply-To: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E1504A1@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> References: <4C519571.7080102@comcast.net> <20100729152834.RCYDS.53769.root@pamxwww05-z01> <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E1504A1@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Message-ID: To make the system work, you need either a longer radiator neck, or a longer radiator cap to fit your stock radiator. All new radiator caps that you find at the stores have two way release valves. Hot pressure allows overflow to go to the tank. When cooling, the vacuum will suck the coolant back into the radiator. Don't ad any gaskets. that may defeat this operation. Leak in the overflow hose/tank will not allow the coolant to suck back into the engine, unless you make the return hose go to the bottom of the overflow tank. I've got a closed system in my 100 Six- http://ewilkins.com/wilko/engine.htm - the overflow tank has the return pipe on the bottom of the tank. Wilko San Diego On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Jeff Pelletier wrote: > Ok... im going with the closed radiator system you guys have talked > about in earlier post.. but im a bit confused as to how the > water/antifreeze gets BACK into the radiator.. We put a gasket > ontop of > the radiator just below the cap to seal things off--correct.. ... > then > you have the inlet/outlet hose/pipe.. then at the bottom of the neck > you > have another gasket with the pressure of the spring on it... as the > car cools how is the water going to get past the gasket at the > bottom of > the neck back into the radiator?? From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Jul 29 14:58:45 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:58:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fuel Odors (BJ8 Exhaust System) In-Reply-To: <2078517432.732382.1280433581277.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20100729165845.FG21V.55428.root@pamxwww05-z01> I kept the "bad" ANSA resonators as I believe there is someone out west who repairs/restores them and I've thought about sending them there for repair. I do like the system, unfortunately, ANSA no longer makes them for the BJ8. tom, ---- Bob Spidell wrote: ============= You're quite welcome. If your resonators and/or mufflers die but the pipes are still OK any muffler shop worth their MIGs should be able to stitch some new mufflers in (they'd probably want to sell you whatever they have, but some might let you bring in 'outside' parts). Or, if you have a sawzall and a welder you can cut your old out, then tack new ones in, then remove the whole system to finish welding the seams. You'll probably want to reuse the brackets on the resonator, and you could reuse the Ansa resonator tips, but I replaced the last section because the pipes were smaller than the muffler output diameter (and smaller than the rest of the Ansa system--not sure why this is, seems like an unnecessary restriction). I also put a crossflow connector between the two pipes ahead of the front mufflers just for the heck of it. I'm trying to learn to weld and this has given me LOTS of opportunities to practice. Also, as my Ansa resonator started to develop holes due to rust and/or impact, I was able to patch it up for several years using some 'steel epoxy' paste--the stuff that comes in one tube that you cut and knead to mix. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Thanks for the tip Bob because when my ANSA's go, I'll need a back-up plan for replacement. Mine are going on 10 years now. I was lucky enough to find original ANSA resonators to replace mine that had badly deteriorated. I'm hoping for a few more years with them. The mufflers are still solid. tom From karyn.dornemann at gmail.com Thu Jul 29 15:04:53 2010 From: karyn.dornemann at gmail.com (Karyn Dornemann) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:04:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I, too, am a female owner of a BN1, and 25 years ago a concours BJ8 (and I'm now quite 50 yet) I don't post on the list unless I have something to ask.... mostly observe, read, learn and chuckle. The list is very informative. I'm sure there's more lady Healey owners out there lurking on this list and driving their cars. BTW, my fella's not nuts about me and my car, in fact, he's very much against all the fossil fuel dependence in our current culture and doesn't "get" how I love the way my Healey sounds, smells, feels or makes me feel. Ah, well. You can't have everything! And it's just fine. I'm not driving my car for his benefit. Karyn Dornemann 1955 BN1 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, wrote: > > Sarah: > The only thing that matters for this group is that you are an owner and > driver > of a Healey. Many thanks for your posts > Bill > BJ7.> > > I can assure you that there's more than just one of us out there! > (However, > > though I also love old boats and old airplanes, I prefer to stick to > owning > > things that will let me get out and walk if something goes wrong....) > > > > I do find it strange that--as far as I can tell from the names--I'm the > only > > female who ever posts to this group. > > > > Sarah Carr > > (owner of a BN1 since 1996 and an MG-TD since 1973) > > > > > > > > > Glad I met the only old car, old train , now old guy loving woman in > the > > > world > > > > > > On Jul 28, 2010 3:53 PM, "Frederich Ficke" > wrote: > > > > > > If I could just find a woman that liked the old cars I would be set for > > > life. Instead they say they like them but they really don't . Old > saying > > > women are put on this earth to SQUASH every mans dreams . Humm seems so > > > sometimes ha ha > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/karyn.dornemann at gmail.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jul 29 15:31:07 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:31:07 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel odors In-Reply-To: <20100729132020.D6V63.51411.root@pamxwww05-z01> References: <20100729132020.D6V63.51411.root@pamxwww05-z01> Message-ID: <4C51F31B.3070808@chello.nl> Must have been some time ago. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs NL Tom Felts wrote: > I do--I lived outside Amsterdam for 5 years.:) > > tom > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > > You guys don't know Dutch speedbumps. They can be very short, shorter > than the wheelbase, and higher than 6". > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > Tom Felts wrote: > >> Ditto Alan. >> >> tom >> >> ---- Alan Seigrist wrote: >> >> ============= >> Fredrich - >> >> Fifteen years ago I rebuilt the suspension complete with new rear springs on >> my BJ8, and also worked to get the exhaust firmly installed just under the >> floor boards (w/o touching the chassis) and I can tell you I have not had >> any problems with scraping my exhaust, even with spirited driving. I did >> all this because I spent the money to get a SS exhaust. I think in that 15 >> years I've scraped my exhaust maybe two times, lightly (no damage). Speed >> bumps are never a problem (i.e. my shocks are working properly). >> >> If you are dragging exhaust either your pipes aren't mounted properly or >> your suspension is worn out. >> >> Alan >> >> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Frederich Ficke wrote: >> >> >> >>> I hate the factory exhaust on these BJ8's . I have even given thoughts that >>> after the header pipes I am going to install two glass packs and run the >>> pipes out in front of the rear wheel . I like noise just not sure how load >>> it would really be. I have just gotten really tired of dragging the exhaust >>> system that is on it . I drag it on inclines and over speedbumps . It is >>> amazing it is still even on the car the way I drive it. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. >> Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com >> Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3036 - datum van uitgifte: 07/29/10 08:34:00 >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3036 - datum van uitgifte: 07/29/10 08:34:00 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From jeff at pellfam.com Thu Jul 29 15:34:36 2010 From: jeff at pellfam.com (Jeff Pelletier) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:34:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Closed system- little confused In-Reply-To: References: <4C519571.7080102@comcast.net><20100729152834.RCYDS.53769.root@pamxwww05-z01><996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E1504A1@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Message-ID: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E1504A2@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Yes I have the return going to the bottom of the tank... I can only see this working if I take the gasket/spring pressure etc off the bottom of the cap that seals to the bottom of the neck? Seal everything at the top of the tank with the gasket that u get from advanced auto...? Jp -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eric (Rick) Wilkins Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 4:39 PM Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Closed system- little confused To make the system work, you need either a longer radiator neck, or a longer radiator cap to fit your stock radiator. All new radiator caps that you find at the stores have two way release valves. Hot pressure allows overflow to go to the tank. When cooling, the vacuum will suck the coolant back into the radiator. Don't ad any gaskets. that may defeat this operation. Leak in the overflow hose/tank will not allow the coolant to suck back into the engine, unless you make the return hose go to the bottom of the overflow tank. I've got a closed system in my 100 Six- http://ewilkins.com/wilko/engine.htm - the overflow tank has the return pipe on the bottom of the tank. Wilko San Diego On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Jeff Pelletier wrote: > Ok... im going with the closed radiator system you guys have talked > about in earlier post.. but im a bit confused as to how the > water/antifreeze gets BACK into the radiator.. We put a gasket > ontop of > the radiator just below the cap to seal things off--correct.. ... > then > you have the inlet/outlet hose/pipe.. then at the bottom of the neck > you > have another gasket with the pressure of the spring on it... as the > car cools how is the water going to get past the gasket at the > bottom of > the neck back into the radiator?? _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jeff at pellfam.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3029 - Release Date: 07/29/10 02:34:00 From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 29 15:36:06 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Women and headaches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1484310291.737129.1280439366213.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> re: " my fella's not nuts about me and my car ..." Long as he doesn't get headaches ... bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA I, too, am a female owner of a BN1, and 25 years ago a concours BJ8 (and I'm now quite 50 yet) I don't post on the list unless I have something to ask.... mostly observe, read, learn and chuckle. The list is very informative. I'm sure there's more lady Healey owners out there lurking on this list and driving their cars. BTW, my fella's not nuts about me and my car, in fact, he's very much against all the fossil fuel dependence in our current culture and doesn't "get" how I love the way my Healey sounds, smells, feels or makes me feel. Ah, well. You can't have everything! And it's just fine. I'm not driving my car for his benefit. Karyn Dornemann 1955 BN1 From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Jul 29 15:36:10 2010 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:36:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Closed system- little confused In-Reply-To: <827599.51122.qm@web110315.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <4C519571.7080102@comcast.net> <20100729152834.RCYDS.53769.root@pamxwww05-z01> <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E1504A1@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> <827599.51122.qm@web110315.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4CD8F371-071F-4007-80EB-C503924F954C@cox.net> That makes sense, I didn't know what the gasket was doing. Mine was done by the PO so I never had to deal with the specifics. On Jul 29, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Richard Dryman wrote: > NOT so; the 1/16" rubber gasket allows a suck back with orig rad. > cap; buy the kit at advance auto--it will work but only with the > gasket. > confused also because I have had the overflow kit for 3+ years but > still don't understand it~~~~duh > Don't think you can get a long neck radiator cap with the 2 way > release--I looked for that(in the usa) for 20 years. > > From: Eric (Rick) Wilkins > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 4:39:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Closed system- little confused From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Jul 29 15:37:19 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:37:19 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Closed system- little confused In-Reply-To: <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E1504A1@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> References: <4C519571.7080102@comcast.net> <20100729152834.RCYDS.53769.root@pamxwww05-z01> <996175EC2B763240BC9AD0D0C2DC1B6E1504A1@jeffsbs02.pellfam.local> Message-ID: <4C51F48F.2060509@chello.nl> Jeff, this question has come up with one of the other listers too. My answer was: When the engine cools down the fluid and trapped air in the engine and radiator will contract causing a vacuum. The radiator cap has two valves, one that opens when the pressure reaches a certain maximum of generally 6, 9, 10 or 12psi, as is written on the cap, when the engine is heating up, this is the large plate with a biggish spring underneath and a rubber seal on top (this seals against the bottom of the filler neck, below the overflow pipe), and a second smaller valve that opens when there is a vacuum when the engine cools down, this is the small plate in the center of the pressure valve plate on top of the rubber seal. If you take of your radiator cap you can lift this small plate from the rubber seal with your fingers with very little effort. The vacuum will suck the coolant from the overflow bottle back into the radiator, providing the hose is connected to the bottom of the bottle or when the hose is inserted through the top is extended to nearly reach the bottom so that fluid instead of air is sucked up. After this process has been repeated several times and if the overflow bottle has been kept 1/2 full when cold, most of the air will have been expelled from the engine and radiator, causing a radiator that is full to the brim, providing you have a thin but fairly stiff rubber seal between radiator cap and radiator filler neck to make a really airtight seal. This is particularly important if you have fitted a thermoswitch for an electric fan in the header tank or top radiator hose. This thin rubber seal is usually not there. The manufacturers relied on a flexible brass seal to prevent unpressurized coolant passing ( however this is not an air tight solution and will not hold a pressure or vacuum) and sticked with the radiator being filled only to about1/2" over the core and regarded the header tank more as an expansion vessel like in the days that there was no overflow bottle and a boiling engine would spill its contents on the road. I hope this helps. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs NL Jeff Pelletier wrote: > Ok... im going with the closed radiator system you guys have talked > about in earlier post.. but im a bit confused as to how the > water/antifreeze gets BACK into the radiator.. We put a gasket ontop of > the radiator just below the cap to seal things off--correct.. ... then > you have the inlet/outlet hose/pipe.. then at the bottom of the neck you > have another gasket with the pressure of the spring on it... as the > car cools how is the water going to get past the gasket at the bottom of > the neck back into the radiator?? [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jul 29 16:05:42 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:05:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] [xxxxxx-------Spridgets] Stirling Moss-BBC excerpt.. (No LBC!) Message-ID: <4C51FB36.409@justbrits.com> From the Spridgets List. Pretty kewl !!! -------- Original Message -------- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/8849492.stm -- From steveg at abrazosdata.com Thu Jul 29 17:03:20 2010 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve Gerow) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:03:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Closed system- little confused Message-ID: <021501cb2f72$3d7535e0$b85fa1a0$@com> Respectfully, my closed system has worked fine with a stock filler neck and stock 7lb Moss brass rivet cap since 2005. When the engine cools down it sucks the overflow back into the radiator, where the coolant level stays constant about < below the filler neck. See the first 3 pictures at: http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/healey_tech I put a 1/16 rubber gasket inside the cap and run the outlet tube to the bottom of a vented reservoir. Currently Im using a brass MGB overflow tank by leaving the pressure cap on it in the loosened position. >>>>>>>>>QUOTED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Closed system- little confused Cc: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes To make the system work, you need either a longer radiator neck, or a longer radiator cap to fit your stock radiator. All new radiator caps that you find at the stores have two way release valves. Hot pressure allows overflow to go to the tank. When cooling, the vacuum will suck the coolant back into the radiator. Don't ad any gaskets. that may defeat this operation. Leak in the overflow hose/tank will not allow the coolant to suck back into the engine, unless you make the return hose go to the bottom of the overflow tank. I've got a closed system in my 100 Six- http://ewilkins.com/wilko/engine.htm - the overflow tank has the return pipe on the bottom of the tank. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA, USA BN6 From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Jul 29 17:41:31 2010 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:41:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Closed system- little confused In-Reply-To: <021501cb2f72$3d7535e0$b85fa1a0$@com> References: <021501cb2f72$3d7535e0$b85fa1a0$@com> Message-ID: <370EC8F3-524E-457C-B163-DF0A051C0242@cox.net> If you bought your cap from Moss it is a long cap that reaches the bottom of your radiator neck. No conflict there. One scenario that "works" as a coolant recovery system is to use any old cap. You'll get overflow into your overflow tank, and it will recover coolant by vacuum, but it won't really be a closed system in that the pressure is not built up so the boiling point is the same ol' 212 degrees. In order for the pressure benefit to work, you need the right cap/neck fit (this can be accomplished with spacer gaskets). On Jul 29, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Steve Gerow wrote: > Respectfully, my closed system has worked fine with a stock filler > neck and > stock 7lb Moss brass rivet cap since 2005. > > > > When the engine cools down it sucks the overflow back into the > radiator, > where the coolant level stays constant about < below the filler neck. > > See the first 3 pictures at: > > http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/healey_tech > > > > I put a 1/16 rubber gasket inside the cap and run the outlet tube > to the > bottom of a vented reservoir. > > > > Currently Im using a brass MGB overflow tank by leaving the > pressure cap > on it in the loosened position. > > > >>>>>>>>>> QUOTED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > From: "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Closed system- little confused > Cc: > > Message-ID: D5AE at cox.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > To make the system work, you need either a longer radiator neck, or a > longer radiator cap to fit your stock radiator. All new radiator caps > that you find at the stores have two way release valves. Hot pressure > allows overflow to go to the tank. When cooling, the vacuum will suck > the coolant back into the radiator. Don't ad any gaskets. that may > defeat this operation. > > Leak in the overflow hose/tank will not allow the coolant to suck back > into the engine, unless you make the return hose go to the bottom of > the overflow tank. > > I've got a closed system in my 100 Six- http://ewilkins.com/wilko/engine.htm > > - the overflow tank has the return pipe on the bottom of the tank. > > > > > > -- > > > > Steve Gerow > > Pasadena, CA, USA > > BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net From warthodson at aol.com Thu Jul 29 18:05:33 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:05:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] '63 Sebring In-Reply-To: <60FE36DE-C048-46C6-A5A8-78945F13FDAA@cox.net> References: <8CCFD3F94D790D1-1F74-86D8@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com><7C936FDA-853F-48C9-8CE2-7CD215F1F1A1@cox.net> <60FE36DE-C048-46C6-A5A8-78945F13FDAA@cox.net> Message-ID: <8CCFD921088DBDB-2974-3364@webmail-m057.sysops.aol.com> Thanks to everyone that replied to my inquiry for '63 Sebring Healey photos. I got many more links than I expected. Gary From Jwhlyadv at aol.com Thu Jul 29 18:18:18 2010 From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jwhlyadv at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:18:18 EDT Subject: [Healeys] 1963 BJ7 MKII for sale Message-ID: <657d9.2ccf2038.3983744a@aol.com> Bill Dahlstrom of Lexington, Kentucky has a very nice BJ7 for sale. You can contact Bill at _bpdahls at windstream.net_ (mailto:bpdahls at windstream.net) for more information. 1963 BJ7 MKII; Black with black/red piping Moss interior; 72 spoke Dayton Wire Wheels; overdrive; stainless exhaust; engine rebuilt in 1999; runs good. Asking $30K. Thanks and regards, Bill Dahlstrom bpdahls at windstream.net From jagwarman at gmail.com Thu Jul 29 19:13:20 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:13:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK Message-ID: I had noticed last week everyone was in a uproar about Facebook. I joined to find like minded people in the Healey world . However they really don't talk about their cars like this site does. Not to offend anyone but I have found Facebook to be a online community that the members seem to have no life outside Facebook and some of the posting are stupid. It ought to be the lonely hearts club ha ha. I finally just quit looking at my site since it became dull and all the car shows are up east. Nothing seems to happen here where I live in the southwest. Just my thought on that subject. From rnbmail at yahoo.com Thu Jul 29 19:25:04 2010 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] HLY55 ... Message-ID: <662667.41539.qm@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Peter, Great story on HLY55 in the Marque - good job on the car - love the user friendly upgrades, but, the seats have to go ...... sorry. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 RNBmail at yahoo.com From s.hutchings at rogers.com Thu Jul 29 19:45:53 2010 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:45:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Dip switch Message-ID: Has anyone got a reference- diagram, showing how the wires are oriented on the headlight dip switch? It's been a while since I took this off, and I've lost my drawing! Thanks, Stephen, BJ8 From jagwarman at gmail.com Thu Jul 29 20:02:57 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:02:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] my fella's not nuts Message-ID: Well it is good to see you got in on our topic. My meaning is it would be nice when a person can share their passion with the opposite sex. I do know there are women out there who like cars however, maybe I am just the extreme . I grew up around great cars and it never left me. I now have a son that also has no interest in cars either I am batting a thousand with people who have no interest in my life. Lol Great to see ya on the board From amalin at mac.com Thu Jul 29 20:06:20 2010 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:06:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Dip switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <70F1B4EA-1C36-4466-9450-489F02681969@mac.com> Here is what I have in my notes: View the dipper switch from the back with the middle lug in the six o'clock position. Attach the blue w/brown stripe wire to the lug at the three o'clock position (bright). Attach the blue w/white stripe wire to the lug at the nine o'clock position (dim). Attach the blue wire to the lug at the six o'clock position (hot). Al "Are you are green enough if your carbon footprint is smaller than Al Gore's?" On Jul 29, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Stephen Hutchings wrote: > Has anyone got a reference- diagram, showing how the wires are oriented on the headlight dip switch? It's been a while since I took this off, and I've lost my drawing! > Thanks, > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/amalin at mac.com From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jul 29 20:12:43 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:12:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] '63 Sebring In-Reply-To: <8CCFD921088DBDB-2974-3364@webmail-m057.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCFD3F94D790D1-1F74-86D8@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com><7C936FDA-853F-48C9-8CE2-7CD215F1F1A1@cox.net> <60FE36DE-C048-46C6-A5A8-78945F13FDAA@cox.net> <8CCFD921088DBDB-2974-3364@webmail-m057.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C52351B.4070000@justbrits.com> << I got many more links than I expected. >> As somebody else mentioned Gary, GOOGLE is YOUR friend. Ya oughta try it sometime !!! Just don't try "goggle" !!!! Not a very good "search engine" !!! From deemi at juno.com Thu Jul 29 20:17:25 2010 From: deemi at juno.com (deemi at juno.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:17:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] '63 Sebring Message-ID: <20100729.221726.5880.5.deemi@juno.com> Gary, there is a movie as well, called "triumph at Sebring" google it, its out there it covers triumph but you see the healeys going at it and pulling in, and commentary on how well they are doing its a must for any healey sebring interest. Doc Bowie in Maine old healey and morgans On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:05:33 -0400 "warthodson at aol.com" writes: > Thanks to everyone that replied to my inquiry for '63 Sebring Healey > photos. I > got many more links than I expected. > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/deemi at juno.com > > DEEMI P.O. Box 268 Orono, ME 04473 www.deemi.org ____________________________________________________________ $13/Month Car Insurance? Insurance deal just passed now allows you to get car insurance for $13 http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c5236c86b059c1558m03vuc From jagwarman at gmail.com Thu Jul 29 20:36:33 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:36:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] my fella's not nuts Message-ID: Tom , I guess that's how I need to start thinking of it, however it is always nice to have a pretty girl in the passengers seat so when you break down they can get someone to stop. lol From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Thu Jul 29 20:40:27 2010 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:40:27 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oil In-Reply-To: <20100727035619.23543.qmail@server278.com> References: <20100727035619.23543.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: The first thing you must do is fit a rear main seal. Why, because the Austin engine does not have one, so even regular oil will leak out. Synthetic oil will leak from even the smallest of openings so things must be buttoned up tight. With every new engine I build I have the crank machined to get rid of those grooves, and the block machined to accept a Chevrolet V-8 rear engine seal. It's less expensive then those bolt-on rear seal conversions from Moss and DW and i suspect a much better "seal" since you can buy performance Chev V-8 rear seals anywhere in the USA. I use Red Line synthetic oil in my race motors and the rear seal does not leak. Richard Mayor BN7L-466 Vintage Racer Portland, Oregon > From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:56:19 +0000 > Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oil > > does anyone on the list run synthetic oil in their engine and if so how do you keep it in. i have seen it in two different healeys and the oil leaked out like a BP oil well in the gulf. how do you keep it in the engine? hjim > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mayorrichard at hotmail.com From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 29 20:53:38 2010 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:53:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates - thanks! Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20100729195133.01fe5f48@pop.att.yahoo.com> Thanks to everybody for the information and tips about the shocks. Especially BS for politely pointing out that the adjustable plates are half the cost I thought they were. John From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 29 21:48:58 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:48:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates - thanks! In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20100729195133.01fe5f48@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20100729195133.01fe5f48@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C524BAA.7010002@comcast.net> I was polite??? I must be slipping. bs john spaur wrote: > Thanks to everybody for the information and tips about the shocks. > > Especially BS for politely pointing out that the adjustable plates are > half the cost I thought they were. > > John > _______________________________________________ > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 29 22:07:58 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:07:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oil In-Reply-To: References: <20100727035619.23543.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4C52501E.9070603@comcast.net> Richard, Does the Chevy seal require the engine adapter plate to be modified? bs richard mayor wrote: > The first thing you must do is fit a rear main seal. Why, because the Austin > engine does not have one, so even regular oil will leak out. Synthetic oil > will leak from even the smallest of openings so things must be buttoned up > tight. > With every new engine I build I have the crank machined to get rid of those > grooves, and the block machined to accept a Chevrolet V-8 rear engine seal. > It's less expensive then those bolt-on rear seal conversions from Moss and DW > and i suspect a much better "seal" since you can buy performance Chev V-8 > rear seals anywhere in the USA. > I use Red Line synthetic oil in my race motors and the rear seal does not > leak. > > Richard Mayor > BN7L-466 Vintage Racer > Portland, Oregon > > > > > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From prittenhouse2 at verizon.net Thu Jul 29 22:18:02 2010 From: prittenhouse2 at verizon.net (prittenhouse2 at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:18:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] European Export Shroud Message-ID: <1217428158.1083331.1280463482753.JavaMail.root@vms226.mailsrvcs.net> From prittenhouse2 at verizon.net Thu Jul 29 22:52:57 2010 From: prittenhouse2 at verizon.net (prittenhouse2 at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:52:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] European Export Shroud Message-ID: <983580380.1083806.1280465577383.JavaMail.root@vms226.mailsrvcs.net> /CPIItl: Permission denied From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Jul 30 00:22:01 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:22:01 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Closed system- little confused In-Reply-To: <021501cb2f72$3d7535e0$b85fa1a0$@com> References: <021501cb2f72$3d7535e0$b85fa1a0$@com> Message-ID: <4C526F89.6050704@chello.nl> Steve, You could create a fully closed cooling system by using a plain radiator cap without the pressure valve, just to cover op the filler neck, and tighten up the pressure cap on the MG overflow tank. The7 lbs for your car is very low and can easily and safely be raised to 12 lbs or a bit more if your hoses and radiator are in good condition. This will give you an extra buffer in dense traffic if necessary. You probably have not sealed the rivet on your present radiator cap or have not filled up the overflow bottle to about half full (or empty) when cold. This is probably the reason the radiator is not full to the brim. In my car the radiator cap is fully sealed with the thin rubber gasket over the thin brass (or stainless steel in your case I think) disc in the cap and some sealant rubbed in around the rivet . I kept filling the overflow bottle to 1/2 full for the first few trips which led to a practically complete expulsion of air in the cooling system with the radiator full to the brim. The heated up air (and coolant) will be pushed out to the overflow bottle and after cooling down only coolant will be sucked back, no air. Kees Oudesluijs NL Steve Gerow wrote: > Respectfully, my closed system has worked fine with a stock filler neck and > stock 7lb Moss brass rivet cap since 2005. > > > > When the engine cools down it sucks the overflow back into the radiator, > where the coolant level stays constant about < below the filler neck. > > See the first 3 pictures at: > > http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/healey_tech > > > > I put a 1/16 rubber gasket inside the cap and run the outlet tube to the > bottom of a vented reservoir. > > > > Currently Im using a brass MGB overflow tank by leaving the pressure cap > on it in the loosened position. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From hubrick at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 05:48:22 2010 From: hubrick at gmail.com (Rick Huber) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:48:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Two more BJ8 parts Message-ID: Last week's note was so successful I think I'll go to the well one more time. I just sent back the driver's side door handle, Moss Part No 021-729, for BJ7 and Phase I BJ8, because there were two significant nicks on it. The passenger side handle is installed, but it doesn't fit well, the handle doesn't match the curvature of the door. So I'm going for nice used. My original handle is broken. Does anyone have a very nice original driver's side door handle they're willing to part with? I made the mistake of sending my dash switch bezel, Moss Part No 633-800, the LHD with Overdrive, to be rechromed, and as I could have expected, the chroming process has partially obliterated some of the letters on the front of the plate. First question is can this be remedied - i.e. is there away to get back the sharpness of the letters now that the chrome has gotten down into the grooves? If not, second question does anybody have a nice original bezel they're willing to part with? New one's are only $44.95, but I'm concerned that a new one won't be as nice as an original. The good news is that we installed the windshield and the passenger side vent window on my BJ8 yesterday, and it's looking fantastic. Cheers, Rick From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Jul 30 06:27:08 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:27:08 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Two more BJ8 parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C52C51C.5060806@chello.nl> Rick, These OD switch plates for MG's can be found quite easily on Ebay.co.uk. I do not know if they are identical but they look rather similar at least. E.g.: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MG-MGB-MGC-OVERDRIVE-SWITCH-BEZEL-ESCUTCHEON-SATIN-/160460120808?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item255c2b22e8 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dashboard-overdrive-switch-MG-/230457613006?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35a8581ace http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MG-MGB-MGC-OVERDRIVE-SWITCH-BEZEL-ESCUTCHEON-CHROME-/150468902882?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2308a53fe2 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Metal-Overdrive-Switch-Bezel-MGB-1976-/220637826220?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item335f0a0cac Rick Huber wrote: > Last week's note was so successful I think I'll go to the well one more > time. > > I just sent back the driver's side door handle, Moss Part No 021-729, for > BJ7 and Phase I BJ8, because there were two significant nicks on it. The > passenger side handle is installed, but it doesn't fit well, the handle > doesn't match the curvature of the door. So I'm going for nice used. My > original handle is broken. Does anyone have a very nice original driver's > side door handle they're willing to part with? > > I made the mistake of sending my dash switch bezel, Moss Part No 633-800, > the LHD with Overdrive, to be rechromed, and as I could have expected, the > chroming process has partially obliterated some of the letters on the front > of the plate. First question is can this be remedied - i.e. is there away > to get back the sharpness of the letters now that the chrome has gotten down > into the grooves? If not, second question does anybody have a nice original > bezel they're willing to part with? New one's are only $44.95, but I'm > concerned that a new one won't be as nice as an original. > > The good news is that we installed the windshield and the passenger side > vent window on my BJ8 yesterday, and it's looking fantastic. > > Cheers, > Rick [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Fri Jul 30 06:35:26 2010 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:35:26 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Two more BJ8 parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1102C7F6@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Oh yes, if one has a nice original driver or passenger side door handle for BT7, BN7 or BJ7 I am willing to pay double (tripple or even more) the price of a new one. A rechromable would do, with no zinc cancer and no cracks in the inside corners of the escutcheon. I have about 10 at home. All are beyond repair. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Rick Huber Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2010 13:48 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] Two more BJ8 parts Last week's note was so successful I think I'll go to the well one more time. I just sent back the driver's side door handle, Moss Part No 021-729, for BJ7 and Phase I BJ8, because there were two significant nicks on it. The passenger side handle is installed, but it doesn't fit well, the handle doesn't match the curvature of the door. So I'm going for nice used. My original handle is broken. Does anyone have a very nice original driver's side door handle they're willing to part with? I made the mistake of sending my dash switch bezel, Moss Part No 633-800, the LHD with Overdrive, to be rechromed, and as I could have expected, the chroming process has partially obliterated some of the letters on the front of the plate. First question is can this be remedied - i.e. is there away to get back the sharpness of the letters now that the chrome has gotten down into the grooves? If not, second question does anybody have a nice original bezel they're willing to part with? New one's are only $44.95, but I'm concerned that a new one won't be as nice as an original. The good news is that we installed the windshield and the passenger side vent window on my BJ8 yesterday, and it's looking fantastic. Cheers, Rick From jagwarman at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 07:23:00 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:23:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK Message-ID: Tom, I am not trying to offend anyone here on this subject. I see people who post on there every couple hours with terms such as . I am eating dinner or I am going to work or It may rain today or I think I will sleep in. The thing is they get no response to these quotes. Then there are the one who join Farmville and Family Fued and then they send you apps for this crap. These are the ones I am saying have no life . I was on Facebook about a year and I find this Healey list much more interesting than Facebook. Sorry I was being judgmental in your eyes or others. I will just say no more about Facebook then. On a different note I had a girlfriend who had four kids and they were all addicted to Myspace. I can tell you for a fact they had no life outside Myspace. They would sit on a computer 14 hours a day and not socialize in public. Thats not healthy. It seems Myspace is for a younger generation and Facebook is used by 30 and up. Personally I get more pleasure from a drive in the country by myself . Shoot I would rather go to walmart and talk to the greeter than to spend that much time on a computer. Perhaps I just can't sit still. I knew this subject would raise some issues and I probably shouldn't have gone there. From prittenhouse2 at verizon.net Fri Jul 30 07:29:45 2010 From: prittenhouse2 at verizon.net (prittenhouse2 at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:29:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] European Export Shroud Message-ID: <800749566.1008447.1280496585117.JavaMail.root@vms232.mailsrvcs.net> Try again.... I have a BT7 MK1 (HBT7L13442) which has a european front shroud (four small lamps). Does anyone else have one on their car? Does anyone have a car with a number around mine and if so what kind of shroud do you have? Thanks, Phil From bighealey at charter.net Fri Jul 30 07:36:24 2010 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:36:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates - thanks! In-Reply-To: <4C524BAA.7010002@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob, You must of had an off day.. hehehehehe hope all is well. Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:49 PM To: john spaur Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Adjustable Shock Plates - thanks! I was polite??? I must be slipping. bs john spaur wrote: > Thanks to everybody for the information and tips about the shocks. > > Especially BS for politely pointing out that the adjustable plates are > half the cost I thought they were. > > John > _______________________________________________ > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey at charter.net From m.brouillette at comcast.net Fri Jul 30 07:36:50 2010 From: m.brouillette at comcast.net (Mike Brouillette) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:36:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you think Facebook is an issue, try foursquare. We had a business associate that would let you know where he was at any given minute. (at home depot buying a screwdriver, picking up the laundry...) We needed to have an intervention with him and when that didn't totally work, 10 of us signed up and pummeled him with every little thing we were doing. He has since stopped... -------------------------------------------------- From: "Frederich Ficke" Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK > Tom, I am not trying to offend anyone here on this subject. I see people > who > post on there every couple hours with terms such as . I am eating dinner > or > I am going to work or It may rain today or I think I will sleep in. The > thing is they get no response to these quotes. Then there are the one who > join Farmville and Family Fued and then they send you apps for this crap. > These are the ones I am saying have no life . I was on Facebook about a > year > and I find this Healey list much more interesting than Facebook. Sorry I > was > being judgmental in your eyes or others. I will just say no more about > Facebook then. > > On a different note I had a girlfriend who had four kids and they were all > addicted to Myspace. I can tell you for a fact they had no life outside > Myspace. They would sit on a computer 14 hours a day and not socialize in > public. Thats not healthy. It seems Myspace is for a younger generation > and > Facebook is used by 30 and up. > > Personally I get more pleasure from a drive in the country by myself . > Shoot > I would rather go to walmart and talk to the greeter than to spend that > much > time on a computer. Perhaps I just can't sit still. > > I knew this subject would raise some issues and I probably shouldn't have > gone there. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.brouillette at comcast.net From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Jul 30 07:52:39 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 9:52:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100730095239.WD1VS.188829.root@pamxwww01-z01> It's like most anything----it can be abused. Alcohol can be--heck---even sex-------well---not sure on that one:) The point is that it is just another form of communication and, if used as an occasional communications device, it can be fun. Heck--even some--well -- lots of people abuse the texting thing, but that doesn't make it a bad thing. Now-----it certainly can't, I hope, replace this list. cheers tom ---- Mike Brouillette wrote: ============= If you think Facebook is an issue, try foursquare. We had a business associate that would let you know where he was at any given minute. (at home depot buying a screwdriver, picking up the laundry...) We needed to have an intervention with him and when that didn't totally work, 10 of us signed up and pummeled him with every little thing we were doing. He has since stopped... -------------------------------------------------- From: "Frederich Ficke" Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK > Tom, I am not trying to offend anyone here on this subject. I see people > who > post on there every couple hours with terms such as . I am eating dinner > or > I am going to work or It may rain today or I think I will sleep in. The > thing is they get no response to these quotes. Then there are the one who > join Farmville and Family Fued and then they send you apps for this crap. > These are the ones I am saying have no life . I was on Facebook about a > year > and I find this Healey list much more interesting than Facebook. Sorry I > was > being judgmental in your eyes or others. I will just say no more about > Facebook then. > > On a different note I had a girlfriend who had four kids and they were all > addicted to Myspace. I can tell you for a fact they had no life outside > Myspace. They would sit on a computer 14 hours a day and not socialize in > public. Thats not healthy. It seems Myspace is for a younger generation > and > Facebook is used by 30 and up. > > Personally I get more pleasure from a drive in the country by myself . > Shoot > I would rather go to walmart and talk to the greeter than to spend that > much > time on a computer. Perhaps I just can't sit still. > > I knew this subject would raise some issues and I probably shouldn't have > gone there. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.brouillette at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From warthodson at aol.com Fri Jul 30 07:52:32 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:52:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] '63 Sebring In-Reply-To: <4C52351B.4070000@justbrits.com> References: <8CCFD3F94D790D1-1F74-86D8@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com><7C936FDA-853F-48C9-8CE2-7CD215F1F1A1@cox.net><60FE36DE-C048-46C6-A5A8-78945F13FDAA@cox.net><8CCFD921088DBDB-2974-3364@webmail-m057.sysops.aol.com> <4C52351B.4070000@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <8CCFE05978C484B-2298-A08F@webmail-d092.sysops.aol.com> The one photo I would like to find & get a high resolution of shows all three of the '63 Sebring cars (54FAC, 56FAC & 57FAC) in a row facint the camera & surrounded by a large group of people. I cannot remember where I saw it & I don't seeem to be able to find it again. Anyone recall this photo & can help me out? Gary Hodson From s.hutchings at rogers.com Fri Jul 30 07:57:11 2010 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:57:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Dip switch Message-ID: Thanks to all for the help on the dip switch wiring. I've got what I need now. The great thing about this list is, it's almost instant! Stephen, BJ8 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 30 08:04:56 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:04:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The way I see it is that this list is for people who are primarily interested in Austin-Healeys and may digress. I see Facebook as primarily acquaintance based ( family, friends ) and is also used for "similar interests" which could include Austin-Healeys. I don't think that one replaces the other. ( and, I prefer the Spridgets and Healey lists to Facebook. ) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:23:00 -0400 > From: jagwarman at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK > > Tom, I am not trying to offend anyone here on this subject. I see people who > post on there every couple hours with terms such as . I am eating dinner or > I am going to work or It may rain today or I think I will sleep in. The > thing is they get no response to these quotes. Then there are the one who > join Farmville and Family Fued and then they send you apps for this crap. > These are the ones I am saying have no life . I was on Facebook about a year > and I find this Healey list much more interesting than Facebook. Sorry I was > being judgmental in your eyes or others. I will just say no more about > Facebook then. > > On a different note I had a girlfriend who had four kids and they were all > addicted to Myspace. I can tell you for a fact they had no life outside > Myspace. They would sit on a computer 14 hours a day and not socialize in > public. Thats not healthy. It seems Myspace is for a younger generation and > Facebook is used by 30 and up. > > Personally I get more pleasure from a drive in the country by myself . Shoot > I would rather go to walmart and talk to the greeter than to spend that much > time on a computer. Perhaps I just can't sit still. > > I knew this subject would raise some issues and I probably shouldn't have > gone there. > _______________________________________________ From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jul 30 08:26:36 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:26:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C52E11C.6040306@comcast.net> On a side note, I live and work in the Silicon Valley and have the obligatory LinkedIn page (more professional and productive than FB, BTW, and there is a small Healey group on there, too). Anyway, occasionally a recruiter will see my profile and send me some job info. Although I'm generally happy where I'm at, I'll take a shot now and then because, well, just because. Most of the postings are from some 'rapidly growing,' 'next FB,' etc. kind of place. A lot of them are some kind of gaming site (Zynga-like). They usually send a 'quiz,' and often there's a question like 'are you a gamer?'; i.e. do you spend every free moment in a dark room playing some stupid facsimile of real life, instead of, say, actually living? Last time, I answered 'No. I drive fast cars and fly airplanes.' Wonder why I never hear back from these places? bs Mike Brouillette wrote: > If you think Facebook is an issue, try foursquare. We had a business > associate that would let you know where he was at any given minute. > (at home depot buying a screwdriver, picking up the laundry...) We > needed to have an intervention with him and when that didn't totally > work, 10 of us signed up and pummeled him with every little thing we > were doing. > > He has since stopped... > > > >> Tom, I am not trying to offend anyone here on this subject. I see >> people who >> post on there every couple hours with terms such as . I am eating >> dinner or >> I am going to work or It may rain today or I think I will sleep in. The >> thing is they get no response to these quotes. Then there are the one >> who >> join Farmville and Family Fued and then they send you apps for this >> crap. >> These are the ones I am saying have no life . I was on Facebook about >> a year >> and I find this Healey list much more interesting than Facebook. >> Sorry I was >> being judgmental in your eyes or others. I will just say no more about >> Facebook then. >> >> On a different note I had a girlfriend who had four kids and they >> were all >> addicted to Myspace. I can tell you for a fact they had no life outside >> Myspace. They would sit on a computer 14 hours a day and not >> socialize in >> public. Thats not healthy. It seems Myspace is for a younger >> generation and >> Facebook is used by 30 and up. >> >> Personally I get more pleasure from a drive in the country by myself >> . Shoot >> I would rather go to walmart and talk to the greeter than to spend >> that much >> time on a computer. Perhaps I just can't sit still. >> >> I knew this subject would raise some issues and I probably shouldn't >> have >> gone there. >> _______________________________________________ ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Jul 30 08:29:44 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:29:44 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Two more BJ8 parts In-Reply-To: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1102C7F6@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1102C7F6@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Message-ID: <4C52E1D8.7040105@chello.nl> You may try to have them sprayed with chrome paint. First they need a gentle bead blast to get rid of the decay, then prime, fill, sand, fill again, sand again, prime again a.i. and have the chrome paint applied followed by a clear coat. I never believed before this could work but I have seen irreplaceable items come back to life this way and they look fabulous. You cannot distinguish them from real chrome except for the feel. Chromed parts are cold to the touch, these chrome painted items feel warm to the touch like powder coated items. Kees Oudesluijs NL Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com wrote: > Oh yes, if one has a nice original driver or passenger side door handle for > BT7, BN7 or BJ7 I am willing to pay double (tripple or even more) the price of > a new one. A rechromable would do, with no zinc cancer and no cracks in the > inside corners of the escutcheon. I have about 10 at home. All are beyond > repair. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Fri Jul 30 08:39:03 2010 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:39:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] European Export Shroud In-Reply-To: <800749566.1008447.1280496585117.JavaMail.root@vms232.mailsrvcs.net> References: <800749566.1008447.1280496585117.JavaMail.root@vms232.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <00b001cb2ff4$f57878f0$e0696ad0$@net> You have a shroud from a car made for export to Germany or Sweden. If the shroud is on the original car, then the car would also have the following: Four lights in the rear No flasher brake light relay box (mounted on left inner wheel well) Locking steering column I have H-BT7-L/14971 which was exported to Germany in August of 1961. Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of prittenhouse2 at verizon.net Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:30 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] European Export Shroud Try again.... I have a BT7 MK1 (HBT7L13442) which has a european front shroud (four small lamps). Does anyone else have one on their car? Does anyone have a car with a number around mine and if so what kind of shroud do you have? Thanks, Phil _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/hgmiller3 at qwest.net From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri Jul 30 09:40:24 2010 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:40:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Two more BJ8 parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A good chrome shop can repair your old door handle. I bought replacement boot hinges that were pitted as you mentioned. When the chrome shop finished my old ones they were brighter and smoother than the replacements. (Anyone want to buy a "new" set of hinges?) Rich Kahn > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:48:22 -0500 > From: hubrick at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Two more BJ8 parts > > Last week's note was so successful I think I'll go to the well one more > time. > > I just sent back the driver's side door handle, Moss Part No 021-729, for > BJ7 and Phase I BJ8, because there were two significant nicks on it. The > passenger side handle is installed, but it doesn't fit well, the handle > doesn't match the curvature of the door. So I'm going for nice used. My > original handle is broken. Does anyone have a very nice original driver's > side door handle they're willing to part with? > > I made the mistake of sending my dash switch bezel, Moss Part No 633-800, > the LHD with Overdrive, to be rechromed, and as I could have expected, the > chroming process has partially obliterated some of the letters on the front > of the plate. First question is can this be remedied - i.e. is there away > to get back the sharpness of the letters now that the chrome has gotten down > into the grooves? If not, second question does anybody have a nice original > bezel they're willing to part with? New one's are only $44.95, but I'm > concerned that a new one won't be as nice as an original. > > The good news is that we installed the windshield and the passenger side > vent window on my BJ8 yesterday, and it's looking fantastic. > > Cheers, > Rick > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri Jul 30 09:56:04 2010 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:56:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree. My brother-in-law tells everything he does on facebook. It will bite him in the future, for everything you put out there is "forever". Employers now look at your facebook page as can your soon-to-be ex-wife's attorney. You will never get elected to a public office. And yes, I do have an account with them but just to communicate with a few "friends" about car stuff and grand kids. Rich Kahn > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:23:00 -0400 > From: jagwarman at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK > > Tom, I am not trying to offend anyone here on this subject. I see people who > post on there every couple hours with terms such as . I am eating dinner or > I am going to work or It may rain today or I think I will sleep in. The > thing is they get no response to these quotes. Then there are the one who > join Farmville and Family Fued and then they send you apps for this crap. > These are the ones I am saying have no life . I was on Facebook about a year > and I find this Healey list much more interesting than Facebook. Sorry I was > being judgmental in your eyes or others. I will just say no more about > Facebook then. > > On a different note I had a girlfriend who had four kids and they were all > addicted to Myspace. I can tell you for a fact they had no life outside > Myspace. They would sit on a computer 14 hours a day and not socialize in > public. Thats not healthy. It seems Myspace is for a younger generation and > Facebook is used by 30 and up. > > Personally I get more pleasure from a drive in the country by myself . Shoot > I would rather go to walmart and talk to the greeter than to spend that much > time on a computer. Perhaps I just can't sit still. > > I knew this subject would raise some issues and I probably shouldn't have > gone there. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From raymead at comcast.net Fri Jul 30 09:58:48 2010 From: raymead at comcast.net (raymead at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? Message-ID: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> hello all Been watching all the comments re our Healeys running hot............ I am a big fan of the magazine Classic Motorsports.B In the new issue, re a project car they are working on (Sunbeam Tiger), they talk about the car's cooling system.......B They talk about adding RED LINE OIL'S WATERWETTER to the cooling system and comment that, according to the manufacturer, it "adheres to the water molecules in the radiator and doubles the cooling capacity of ordinary water".........B B The writer goes on to say that they have been using it in their race cars for years........... Anyone tried it?B have any experience with it? tks, ray From pete_groh at yahoo.com Fri Jul 30 10:07:30 2010 From: pete_groh at yahoo.com (Pete Groh) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Dealership sign, double sided MG / Austin Healey on e-bay - NFI Message-ID: <895383.65596.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If you are into automobilia or have a restoration shop, there is a sign on e-bay. I have the same sign, double sided in a metal frame; MG / Austin on the bottom. It is in my two car garage, against the wall. I moved it twice, 1st when purchased in Glen Burnie MD, and than when I moved to Ellicott City MD. My sign was purchase from a BMC dealership and found on a used car lot. I located the owner of the business stating I wanted to purchase the sign, and asked about the price. He wanted $300.00. I stated that I was a Triumph guy and purpose of purchase was to trade for a Triumph sign. He than offered me the sign for $100.00. I stated I did not have $100.00 on me. He than stated how much did I had in my pocket. I counted out $20.00 and change. I stated I still had to pay to move the sign and that it could be broken at any time. He accepted my offer. MG austin healey dealership sign Item number:120599738178 Auction can end at any time, as item is also being offered for sale locally. Please contact us at Kunkle Motors with any questions. 570-675-1546 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_rdc=1&item=120599738178&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.shop.ebay.com%3A80%2F__%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp2127.m39.l1313%26_nkw%3D120599738178%26_sacat%3D%26_fvi%3D1&viewitem= Kind regards Pete Groh (KeyGuy) From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jul 30 10:36:25 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? In-Reply-To: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1195464045.770012.1280507785303.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I've been using it for years. It's most effective if you run 'pure' distilled water, since water has better thermal transfer properties than antifreeze. But, I add it to my approx. 60/40 water/antifreeze coolant mixture. I think, at best, with this mixture it's good for a degree or two cooler running (but that just might make the difference under certain circumstances). bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA hello all Been watching all the comments re our Healeys running hot............ I am a big fan of the magazine Classic Motorsports.B In the new issue, re a project car they are working on (Sunbeam Tiger), they talk about the car's cooling system.......B They talk about adding RED LINE OIL'S WATERWETTER to the cooling system and comment that, according to the manufacturer, it "adheres to the water molecules in the radiator and doubles the cooling capacity of ordinary water".........B B The writer goes on to say that they have been using it in their race cars for years........... Anyone tried it?B have any experience with it? tks, ray _______________________________________________ From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 10:37:21 2010 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:37:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? In-Reply-To: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I've used it successfully on some cars I've owned that had questionable cooling capabilities. It's good for ~20 degrees F. It is not, however, a solution I would use before completely going through the cooling system and/or adding a bigger radiator. Jody On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:58 AM, wrote: > hello all > > > > Been watching all the comments re our Healeys running hot............ > > > > I am a big fan of the magazine Classic Motorsports.B In the new issue, re a > project car they are working on (Sunbeam Tiger), they talk about the car's > cooling system.......B They talk about adding RED LINE OIL'S WATERWETTER to > the cooling system and comment that, according to the manufacturer, it > "adheres to the water molecules in the radiator and doubles the cooling > capacity of ordinary water".........B B The writer goes on to say that they > have been using it in their race cars for years........... > > > > Anyone tried it?B have any experience with it? > > > > tks, ray > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jodyfkerr at gmail.com > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 10:44:34 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZXllcmEzQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==?=) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:44:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?hot_Healey_-_radiator_water_additive=3F=3F=3F?= =?utf-8?b?Pz8/Pz8/Pw==?= Message-ID: <4c530163.aae9d80a.3cbf.51f9@mx.google.com> Works great Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Please excuse typos Ira Erbs DIGS-4 Solutions. IT Consulting ----- Reply message ----- From: raymead at comcast.net Date: Fri, Jul 30, 2010 8:58 am Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? To: "AUSTIN HEALEY CLUB" hello all Been watching all the comments re our Healeys running hot............ I am a big fan of the magazine Classic Motorsports.B In the new issue, re a project car they are working on (Sunbeam Tiger), they talk about the car's cooling system.......B They talk about adding RED LINE OIL'S WATERWETTER to the cooling system and comment that, according to the manufacturer, it "adheres to the water molecules in the radiator and doubles the cooling capacity of ordinary water".........B B The writer goes on to say that they have been using it in their race cars for years........... Anyone tried it?B have any experience with it? tks, ray _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jul 30 10:45:20 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? In-Reply-To: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <432516926.770464.1280508320264.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I should add to my previous post that WW has lubricants and corrosion inhibitors--if you're running straight water you need this or an equivalent (soluble oil, etc.). Disclaimer: I like RedLine products. Their website is informative and their tech support is actually helpful. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA hello all Been watching all the comments re our Healeys running hot............ I am a big fan of the magazine Classic Motorsports.B In the new issue, re a project car they are working on (Sunbeam Tiger), they talk about the car's cooling system.......B They talk about adding RED LINE OIL'S WATERWETTER to the cooling system and comment that, according to the manufacturer, it "adheres to the water molecules in the radiator and doubles the cooling capacity of ordinary water".........B B The writer goes on to say that they have been using it in their race cars for years........... Anyone tried it?B have any experience with it? tks, ray _______________________________________________ From RCT2BNC at aol.com Fri Jul 30 10:54:14 2010 From: RCT2BNC at aol.com (RCT2BNC at aol.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:54:14 EDT Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? Message-ID: <42b8d.5911d4dc.39845db6@aol.com> Ray I have been using Waterweter with 20% antifreeze and deionized water in all 8 of our British cars here in the desert Southwest. Other than some very slow going traffic during the summer heat, it is quite effective. My BN1 survived our local "100 miles at over 100 degrees" last August along with 18 other crazy British car drivers. Waterweter does work well. Ben Cohen Tucson, AZ BN1, BN7, BJ8, AN5 x 2, Lotuses, etc From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri Jul 30 10:54:55 2010 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:54:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? In-Reply-To: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <004801cb3007$efc17b10$cf447130$@rr.com> Hi, Ray - I used it on two different occasions without any evidence at all on the temp gauge that it did anything. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of raymead at comcast.net Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:59 AM To: AUSTIN HEALEY CLUB Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? hello all Been watching all the comments re our Healeys running hot............ I am a big fan of the magazine Classic Motorsports.B In the new issue, re a project car they are working on (Sunbeam Tiger), they talk about the car's cooling system.......B They talk about adding RED LINE OIL'S WATERWETTER to the cooling system and comment that, according to the manufacturer, it "adheres to the water molecules in the radiator and doubles the cooling capacity of ordinary water".........B B The writer goes on to say that they have been using it in their race cars for years........... Anyone tried it?B have any experience with it? tks, ray _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/sbyers at ec.rr.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3037 - Release Date: 07/30/10 02:34:00 From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri Jul 30 10:57:17 2010 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:57:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? In-Reply-To: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I've used waterwetter for several years and it does work well. Moss charges 14 bucks for it but Kragen charges 9 I think. Cheap for the amount of of protection. No down side. I ran 190 in 104 degrees on the way to Eugene for the Rendezvous. Rich Kahn > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:58:48 +0000 > From: raymead at comcast.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? > > hello all > > > > Been watching all the comments re our Healeys running hot............ > > > > I am a big fan of the magazine Classic Motorsports.B In the new issue, re a > project car they are working on (Sunbeam Tiger), they talk about the car's > cooling system.......B They talk about adding RED LINE OIL'S WATERWETTER to > the cooling system and comment that, according to the manufacturer, it > "adheres to the water molecules in the radiator and doubles the cooling > capacity of ordinary water".........B B The writer goes on to say that they > have been using it in their race cars for years........... > > > > Anyone tried it?B have any experience with it? > > > > tks, ray > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From jagwarman at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 11:41:14 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:41:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK Message-ID: Thats a funny one with the guy going to Home depot . A woman found me on Facebook and asked to be friends. So I thought whats the harm till she became a stalker. Everytime I went to facebook she would instant message me. She had FB on her mobil phone so she knew whenever I was on. Then when she couldn't see me on there . She then found where I lived and showed up at my door. Is that nuts or what? From healeyron at yahoo.com Fri Jul 30 11:51:37 2010 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? In-Reply-To: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <626712.27205.qm@web32907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I tried it in my BN6 many years ago. Drove a route from Elkton, Maryland to Baltimore and back with 50/50 Water to Antifreeze and used a candy thermometer to check the temperature of the water in the recovery bottle when I returned. The next day I added the Red Line Water Wetter per their instructions and drove the same route and checked the temperature of the water in the recovery bottle when I returned. There wasn't even a slight difference. I'm not convince it does anything but reduce the size of my beer fund. Others swear by it. You have to try it and come to your own conclusions. Ron Mitchell To: AUSTIN HEALEY CLUB Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 11:58:48 AM Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? hello all Been watching all the comments re our Healeys running hot............ I am a big fan of the magazine Classic Motorsports.B In the new issue, re a project car they are working on (Sunbeam Tiger), they talk about the car's cooling system.......B They talk about adding RED LINE OIL'S WATERWETTER to the cooling system and comment that, according to the manufacturer, it "adheres to the water molecules in the radiator and doubles the cooling capacity of ordinary water".........B B The writer goes on to say that they have been using it in their race cars for years........... Anyone tried it?B have any experience with it? tks, ray _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyron at yahoo.com From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Fri Jul 30 11:55:11 2010 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:55:11 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? In-Reply-To: <004801cb3007$efc17b10$cf447130$@rr.com> References: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <004801cb3007$efc17b10$cf447130$@rr.com> Message-ID: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1102CA51@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Same to me. I used waterwetter without any difference to cooling capabilities at all. No effect on my car. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von BJ8 Healeys Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2010 18:55 An: raymead at comcast.net; 'AUSTIN HEALEY CLUB' Betreff: Re: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? Hi, Ray - I used it on two different occasions without any evidence at all on the temp gauge that it did anything. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of raymead at comcast.net Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:59 AM To: AUSTIN HEALEY CLUB Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? hello all Been watching all the comments re our Healeys running hot............ I am a big fan of the magazine Classic Motorsports.B In the new issue, re a project car they are working on (Sunbeam Tiger), they talk about the car's cooling system.......B They talk about adding RED LINE OIL'S WATERWETTER to the cooling system and comment that, according to the manufacturer, it "adheres to the water molecules in the radiator and doubles the cooling capacity of ordinary water".........B B The writer goes on to say that they have been using it in their race cars for years........... Anyone tried it?B have any experience with it? From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Jul 30 12:10:34 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:10:34 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? In-Reply-To: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4C53159A.2030303@chello.nl> If you need it something is wrong in the cooling system. It may help prevent overheating for a while, but you have to tackle the cause, not the symptoms Kees Oudesluijs NL . raymead at comcast.net wrote: > hello all > > > > Been watching all the comments re our Healeys running hot............ > > > > I am a big fan of the magazine Classic Motorsports.B In the new issue, re a > project car they are working on (Sunbeam Tiger), they talk about the car's > cooling system.......B They talk about adding RED LINE OIL'S WATERWETTER to > the cooling system and comment that, according to the manufacturer, it > "adheres to the water molecules in the radiator and doubles the cooling > capacity of ordinary water".........B B The writer goes on to say that they > have been using it in their race cars for years........... > > > > Anyone tried it?B have any experience with it? > > > > tks, ray [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Jul 30 12:16:58 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:16:58 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? In-Reply-To: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1102CA51@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <1345567592.880570.1280505528901.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <004801cb3007$efc17b10$cf447130$@rr.com> <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1102CA51@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Message-ID: <4C53171A.6030909@chello.nl> If your cooling system is in good nick the temperature is regulated by the thermostat(s) so waterwetter would not show up any difference at all. It is when the car overheats through a fault in the cooling system that it might be of any help to create better heat transfer from engine to water to radiator to air. Kees Oudesluijs NL Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com wrote: > Same to me. I used waterwetter without any difference to cooling capabilities > at all. No effect on my car. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von BJ8 Healeys > Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2010 18:55 > An: raymead at comcast.net; 'AUSTIN HEALEY CLUB' > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] hot Healey - radiator water additive?????????? > > Hi, Ray - > I used it on two different occasions without any evidence at all on the temp > gauge that it did anything. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Jul 30 12:23:26 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:23:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100730142326.KPCUD.194026.root@pamxwww01-z01> I thought that to view messages from anyone, you had to be a friend and they would have had to OK you being a friend. I just can't go to Joe Doe's page and read his entries unless he allows me to and that means accepting me as a friend. tom ---- Richard Kahn wrote: ============= I agree. My brother-in-law tells everything he does on facebook. It will bite him in the future, for everything you put out there is "forever". Employers now look at your facebook page as can your soon-to-be ex-wife's attorney. You will never get elected to a public office. And yes, I do have an account with them but just to communicate with a few "friends" about car stuff and grand kids. Rich Kahn > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:23:00 -0400 > From: jagwarman at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK > > Tom, I am not trying to offend anyone here on this subject. I see people who > post on there every couple hours with terms such as . I am eating dinner or > I am going to work or It may rain today or I think I will sleep in. The > thing is they get no response to these quotes. Then there are the one who > join Farmville and Family Fued and then they send you apps for this crap. > These are the ones I am saying have no life . I was on Facebook about a year > and I find this Healey list much more interesting than Facebook. Sorry I was > being judgmental in your eyes or others. I will just say no more about > Facebook then. > > On a different note I had a girlfriend who had four kids and they were all > addicted to Myspace. I can tell you for a fact they had no life outside > Myspace. They would sit on a computer 14 hours a day and not socialize in > public. Thats not healthy. It seems Myspace is for a younger generation and > Facebook is used by 30 and up. > > Personally I get more pleasure from a drive in the country by myself . Shoot > I would rather go to walmart and talk to the greeter than to spend that much > time on a computer. Perhaps I just can't sit still. > > I knew this subject would raise some issues and I probably shouldn't have > gone there. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 12:27:49 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:27:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You have just agreed to share your feelings with your wife and she would quit hounding yoy ;) On Jul 30, 2010 10:48 AM, "Frederich Ficke" wrote: Thats a funny one with the guy going to Home depot . A woman found me on Facebook and asked to be friends. So I thought whats the harm till she became a stalker. Everytime I went to facebook she would instant message me. She had FB on her mobil phone so she knew whenever I was on. Then when she couldn't see me on there . She then found where I lived and showed up at my door. Is that nuts or what? _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From jessmd1 at comcast.net Fri Jul 30 12:28:30 2010 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:28:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100M Message-ID: <2149F961-3C47-48E3-83B1-732E34DA5CD1@comcast.net> Does anyone know if its possible to determine whether a BN1 is a 100M,a Lemans,or just a BN1? What parts of the car should be inspected? If there is no documentation of such,how can it be obtained? From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 12:36:51 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:36:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: <20100730142326.KPCUD.194026.root@pamxwww01-z01> References: <20100730142326.KPCUD.194026.root@pamxwww01-z01> Message-ID: You csn block farmville and game notices or people. You can unfriend them too On Jul 30, 2010 11:34 AM, "Tom Felts" wrote: I thought that to view messages from anyone, you had to be a friend and they would have had to OK you being a friend. I just can't go to Joe Doe's page and read his entries unless he allows me to and that means accepting me as a friend. tom ---- Richard Kahn wrote: ============= I agree. My brother-in-law tells everything he does on facebook. It will bite him in the future, for... Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/d... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 30 12:37:47 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:37:47 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Usually, the biggest problem that people on these lists have, is that more cars seem to follow them home. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg and 2 Midget parts cars and a Fiat X1/9 > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:41:14 -0400 > From: jagwarman at gmail.com > > She then found where I lived and showed up at my > door. Is that nuts or what? > _______________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 30 12:48:33 2010 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:48:33 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: - Don't let your employer be your FB friend if you have anything to hide. ( But really, you know anything communicated over the internet is stored somewhere, so govern yourself accordingly. )- ( re: never get elected to public office ) See ... there is a good side to being on FB!! :)- You can block Farmville ( I have. ) > I agree. My brother-in-law tells everything he does on facebook. It will bite > him in the future, for everything you put out there is "forever". Employers > now look at your facebook page as can your soon-to-be ex-wife's attorney. You > will never get elected to a public office. And yes, I do have an account with > them but just to communicate with a few "friends" about car stuff and grand > kids. > Rich Kahn > > Then there are the one who > > join Farmville and Family Fued and then they send you apps for this crap. From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Fri Jul 30 13:21:17 2010 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:21:17 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] 100M In-Reply-To: <2149F961-3C47-48E3-83B1-732E34DA5CD1@comcast.net> References: <2149F961-3C47-48E3-83B1-732E34DA5CD1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <50CCFFD1B9C6424389383F7A13A03446011D1102CA70@HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> You just need to ask for a Heritage Certificate. It will be stated in the Certificate when your 100 has got a Le mans kit "Warwick-fitted" before delivery . There is no BN1 100M, only BN2 100Ms were built. When the car is delivered as a 100 without the modifications, you can determine it as an "ordinary" 100. You can't find any sign on the car to determine. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Jess Power Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2010 20:29 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] 100M Does anyone know if its possible to determine whether a BN1 is a 100M,a Lemans,or just a BN1? What parts of the car should be inspected? From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jul 30 14:13:33 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:13:33 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Antifreeze Water Message-ID: <39d46.dd9d80e.39848c6d@aol.com> In a message dated 7/30/10 10:48:45 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > I've been using it for years. It's most effective if you run 'pure' > distilled water, since water has better thermal transfer properties than > antifreeze. But, I add it to my approx. 60/40 water/antifreeze coolant mixture. I > think, at best, with this mixture it's good for a degree or two cooler > running (but that just might make the difference under certain circumstances). > > bs > The advice I've received from individuals as well as from the radiator specialists is to never use distilled water in a radiator. Just use regular water. My very unscientific understanding is that distilled water tries very had to become hard water, pulling extra molecules off the cooling system and actually causing corrosion. I've been using Water Wetter routinely in both the Healey and my race car for years. Since it almost never freezes here, and radiator "coolant" actually has less cooling capabilities than regular water and many versions are super-poisonous to pets and little kids, even though they're sweet and taste good, I don't use it in the Healey. And of course, since coolant is superslick, we're not permitted to use it in the race cars. The WW, on the other hand, does improve cooling properties, which having additives that are good for the water pump. And if you don't believe it works, put two pans of water on the stove with cooking thermometers in them, one with the appropriate proportion of WW and one without and see what the water temperature is at when the water begins to vaporize (i.e. "boil"). What the heck, run a third test with water with "coolant" in it. See what the differences are. Report back to the class. (I did this once for a magazine article -- felt like Dr. Science). Cheer sGary From jagwarman at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 14:15:53 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:15:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Facebook Message-ID: Tom, You can read any persons wall that is open and most are. From jagwarman at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 14:18:43 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:18:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK Message-ID: I saw on the news yesterday where a woman found her husband had a Facebook account with his other wife . Yes he is married to two women and one busted him . She is now going to use all that info for her divorce. Is this guy stupid or what? From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 30 14:44:31 2010 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:44:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Antifreeze Water In-Reply-To: <39d46.dd9d80e.39848c6d@aol.com> References: <39d46.dd9d80e.39848c6d@aol.com> Message-ID: <000001cb3028$0396ca30$0ac45e90$@net> Gary, What specific temperature results did Dr. Science find? Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:14 PM To: healeys-request at autox.team.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Antifreeze Water In a message dated 7/30/10 10:48:45 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > I've been using it for years. It's most effective if you run 'pure' > distilled water, since water has better thermal transfer properties than > antifreeze. But, I add it to my approx. 60/40 water/antifreeze coolant mixture. I > think, at best, with this mixture it's good for a degree or two cooler > running (but that just might make the difference under certain circumstances). > > bs > The advice I've received from individuals as well as from the radiator specialists is to never use distilled water in a radiator. Just use regular water. My very unscientific understanding is that distilled water tries very had to become hard water, pulling extra molecules off the cooling system and actually causing corrosion. I've been using Water Wetter routinely in both the Healey and my race car for years. Since it almost never freezes here, and radiator "coolant" actually has less cooling capabilities than regular water and many versions are super-poisonous to pets and little kids, even though they're sweet and taste good, I don't use it in the Healey. And of course, since coolant is superslick, we're not permitted to use it in the race cars. The WW, on the other hand, does improve cooling properties, which having additives that are good for the water pump. And if you don't believe it works, put two pans of water on the stove with cooking thermometers in them, one with the appropriate proportion of WW and one without and see what the water temperature is at when the water begins to vaporize (i.e. "boil"). What the heck, run a third test with water with "coolant" in it. See what the differences are. Report back to the class. (I did this once for a magazine article -- felt like Dr. Science). Cheer sGary From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jul 30 15:15:42 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Antifreeze Water In-Reply-To: <39d46.dd9d80e.39848c6d@aol.com> Message-ID: <1463853718.784894.1280524542804.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> re: " The advice I've received from individuals as well as from the radiator specialists is to never use distilled water in a radiator. Just use regular water. My very unscientific understanding is that distilled water tries very had to become hard water, pulling extra molecules off the cooling system and actually causing corrosion. " Yes, that is very unscientific, in the realm of urban legend. Probably comes from somebody's high school chemistry class where they discovered that distilled water will dissolve more table salt than the local tap water (no wonder our schoolkids don't do well in science). This is due to the fact that tap (typically "hard") water is already partially saturated whereas distilled is not, and therefore will dissolve more salts. Very bad indeed for engines made out of table salt; however, most of our engines are made out of elemental iron which, while prone to corrode and produce soluble iron oxide when bathed in a hot electrolyte--i.e. water with dissolved salts in it--does not otherwise surrender its atoms that willingly, no matter how hard the nasty distilled water tries to steal them. In fact, I believe (not sure) that the corrosion inhibitors in antifreeze are slightly acidic--oxylates, like a compound found in rhubarb--to neutralize (or 'buffer' ) the increase in pH produced as the metals do corrode and dissolve. The fact is, distilled water is chemically neutral, with pH of 7.0 due to a balance of hydronium (H+) and hydroxide(OH-) ions. It is much less capable of promoting corrosion than either an acidic--pH less than 7--or basic/alkaline--pH greater than 7--liquid (think battery acid and dissolved Drano, respectively). That is why noted mechanics--Click&Clack, Dr. Gizmo and others--recommend distilled water. Also, the premixed solutions are blended with distilled or deionized water (ex. http://peakantifreeze.com/peakrtu.html http://www.peakantifreeze.com/faq.html#B). Actually, deionized seems to be the new favorite, as it contains even fewer stray ions than distilled, as distilling does not remove all ions (but it does get the good stuff out of the corn mash). bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA The advice I've received from individuals as well as from the radiator specialists is to never use distilled water in a radiator. Just use regular water. My very unscientific understanding is that distilled water tries very had to become hard water, pulling extra molecules off the cooling system and actually causing corrosion. From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jul 30 15:20:14 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:20:14 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Antifreeze Water Message-ID: <3d8e8.da489a0.39849c0e@aol.com> In a message dated 7/30/10 1:44:38 PM, ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net writes: > > Gary, > > What specific temperature results did Dr. Science find? > > Ron > Coolant water boils first at less than 212, water boils at 212 (we're only at 200 foot elevation here), and WW in water boils last, at about 220-225. Gary From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Fri Jul 30 15:26:27 2010 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:26:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Antifreeze Water References: <39d46.dd9d80e.39848c6d@aol.com> Message-ID: <1DD9FE465FAF4608B85C03499409E517@XPS400> I don't think the question is when the water begins to boil. WW claims to help transfer heat from the engine metal to the water, therefore, making water more efficient in cooling the engine. It doesn't claim to raise the boiling point of water. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Antifreeze Water > In a message dated 7/30/10 10:48:45 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > >> I've been using it for years. It's most effective if you run 'pure' >> distilled water, since water has better thermal transfer properties than >> antifreeze. But, I add it to my approx. 60/40 water/antifreeze coolant >> mixture. I >> think, at best, with this mixture it's good for a degree or two cooler >> running (but that just might make the difference under certain >> circumstances). >> >> bs From derek.c.job at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 16:36:36 2010 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:36:36 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] '63 Sebring In-Reply-To: <8CCFE05978C484B-2298-A08F@webmail-d092.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCFD3F94D790D1-1F74-86D8@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> <7C936FDA-853F-48C9-8CE2-7CD215F1F1A1@cox.net> <60FE36DE-C048-46C6-A5A8-78945F13FDAA@cox.net> <8CCFD921088DBDB-2974-3364@webmail-m057.sysops.aol.com> <4C52351B.4070000@justbrits.com> <8CCFE05978C484B-2298-A08F@webmail-d092.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I saw 54 FAC now newly restored under new Dutch ownership at the LeMans Classic. The car has been painted a non metallic bluey grey a bit like we used to call Air Force blue. I'm not sure why this was done as I always thought these cars were Healey Blue. They certainly seem to be from the period photos. Derek On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:52 PM, warthodson at aol.com wrote: > The one photo I would like to find & get a high resolution of shows all > three > of the '63 Sebring cars (54FAC, 56FAC & 57FAC) in a row facint the camera & > surrounded by a large group of people. I cannot remember where I saw it & I > don't seeem to be able to find it again. > Anyone recall this photo & can help me out? > Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek.c.job at gmail.com From jagwarman at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 16:40:53 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:40:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK Message-ID: Rich , I didn't mean to consume everyone with Facebook but you are totally right . Lets get back to Healey topics From jagwarman at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 16:46:09 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:46:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] waterwetter Message-ID: I use to have a MGA that ran hot and I have to say it really doesn't help enough to be worth while. And others are right you need to get to the underlying problem and solve it . The list can be huge to go thru for overheating like blocked radiator thermostat timing engine internals being rusty and clogged collapsing hoses air circulation and I am sure there are more posabilities From jagwarman at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 18:16:55 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:16:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] overheating Message-ID: I saw in a post earlier about using distilled water. Everyone should do this because it has no minerals in it therefore you will never have mineral growth in your water that will block the tubes in the radiator. From richard.ewald at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 18:31:41 2010 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:31:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So if the iron in the block and head isn't a mineral what is it? Animal or vegetable? :-) (sorry could not resist) Point is most tap water is so low in mineral content that it won't make a difference one way or the other. Rick On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Frederich Ficke wrote: > I saw in a post earlier about using distilled water. Everyone should do > this > because it has no minerals in it therefore you will never have mineral > growth in your water that will block the tubes in the radiator. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From jagwarman at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 18:37:27 2010 From: jagwarman at gmail.com (Frederich Ficke) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:37:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] overheating Message-ID: gee I hope our healey's are animals but no your right most CITY tap water has very few minerals but I live on a well and it is full minerals. Radiator shops don't like it when use distilled water cause they never get your business and actually a radiator shop told me to use distilled water years ago. When you use water that has minerals you will even see the water rust in the block and show up in the radiator. From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Fri Jul 30 18:39:12 2010 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Old English White: BN2 vs New Mini In-Reply-To: <1DD9FE465FAF4608B85C03499409E517@XPS400> References: <39d46.dd9d80e.39848c6d@aol.com> <1DD9FE465FAF4608B85C03499409E517@XPS400> Message-ID: <419382.71994.qm@web54102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Is the Old English White used on the BN2 the same color as the Pepper White used on the New Mini ?? I have problems fiding the exact color for my Bn2 Thanks Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: Ron Fine To: Editorgary at aol.com; healeys-request at autox.team.net; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 4:26:27 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Antifreeze Water I don't think the question is when the water begins to boil. WW claims to help transfer heat from the engine metal to the water, therefore, making water more efficient in cooling the engine. It doesn't claim to raise the boiling point of water. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Antifreeze Water > In a message dated 7/30/10 10:48:45 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > >> I've been using it for years. It's most effective if you run 'pure' >> distilled water, since water has better thermal transfer properties than >> antifreeze. But, I add it to my approx. 60/40 water/antifreeze coolant mixture. >>I >> think, at best, with this mixture it's good for a degree or two cooler >> running (but that just might make the difference under certain circumstances). >> >> bs _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From gmandas at yahoo.com Fri Jul 30 18:42:26 2010 From: gmandas at yahoo.com (Greg Mandas) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] What to fill your level shocks with In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <728131.35842.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hypoid 90. Good idea or bad? Greg From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 18:54:30 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:54:30 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick - That depends entirely on where you live. Trust me! Alan On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Richard Ewald wrote: > So if the iron in the block and head isn't a mineral what is it? Animal or > vegetable? > :-) > (sorry could not resist) > Point is most tap water is so low in mineral content that it won't make a > difference one way or the other. > Rick > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Frederich Ficke >wrote: > > > I saw in a post earlier about using distilled water. Everyone should do > > this > > because it has no minerals in it therefore you will never have mineral > > growth in your water that will block the tubes in the radiator. From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 30 19:04:07 2010 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:04:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Old English White: BN2 vs New Mini In-Reply-To: <419382.71994.qm@web54102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <39d46.dd9d80e.39848c6d@aol.com> <1DD9FE465FAF4608B85C03499409E517@XPS400> <419382.71994.qm@web54102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001cb304c$479cb090$d6d611b0$@net> Josi, I believe Old English White and Ivory White share the same paint code, which currently is PPG 91212. I do not know what the BMWs use. Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Josi Vicente Vargas Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 7:39 PM To: healeys-request at autox.team.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Old English White: BN2 vs New Mini Is the Old English White used on the BN2 the same color as the Pepper White used on the New Mini ?? I have problems fiding the exact color for my Bn2 Thanks Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 19:12:07 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:12:07 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] What to fill your level shocks with In-Reply-To: <728131.35842.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <728131.35842.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: bad. That can destroy your shock. use motorcycle fork oil. it's about 20 wt. On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Greg Mandas wrote: > Hypoid 90. Good idea or bad? > > Greg From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 19:17:46 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:17:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Depends on where you live On Jul 30, 2010 5:31 PM, "Richard Ewald" wrote: So if the iron in the block and head isn't a mineral what is it? Animal or vegetable? :-) (sorry could not resist) Point is most tap water is so low in mineral content that it won't make a difference one way or the other. Rick On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Frederich Ficke wrote: > I saw in a post earlier about using distilled water. Everyone should do > this > because it has n... > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/d... From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Fri Jul 30 19:32:47 2010 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:32:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] overheating References: Message-ID: I live in West Los Angeles. Our tap water is reputed to be very clean but very hard. Lots of mineral content. Just boil some water in a pot an see the white residue left behind. Let the sprinklers hit your nice polished car and you've got a lot of white spots on your paint. I think that minerals percepitate out of hot water and can, over time, clog up a radiator or just coat the water passages making heat transfer more difficult. Ron From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jul 30 19:59:41 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:59:41 EDT Subject: [Healeys] OEW or Pepper White Message-ID: <4934c.30da7b6b.3984dd8d@aol.com> In a message dated 7/30/10 6:19:37 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Is the Old English White used on the BN2 the same color as the Pepper > White > used > on the New Mini ?? > Gee, wonder if I can start another argument here by accidentally repeating some other urban myth. Here's the opinion of one person who owns a Healey Blue over OEW 59 Healey and for two years edited the national MINI magazine. No, OEW is a quite creamy white ( a slight touch of yellow in it), where MINI pepper white is a grayish white. Gary From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jul 30 20:34:37 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:34:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C538BBD.8040707@justbrits.com> I wish I was as handsome and/or RICH as the chap that has [ditto of my FaceBook 'feelings'] this "comment" about FB !!! http://www.celebnewswire.com/archives/george-clooney-facebook-foe.html or *http://tinyurl.com/2blqm4k* But ya'll just keep on Rockin & Rollin on FB !!!* *ROTFLMAO !!!! MORE 'priceless' than a MasterCard Ad !!!* *Ed From mark at bradakis.com Fri Jul 30 21:00:27 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:00:27 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C5391CB.8020001@bradakis.com> Boy, this topic has been pretty popular lately, going on for about two weeks now. And don't worry, as I've said before this list will be around for a while. http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/healeys/2010-07/msg00360.html But then again, there are times like yesterday when georgehealey1138 at aol.com reported nearly 100 list messages as email abuse to AOL. There seem to be people in this world so clueless they must need a guide to find their way out of bed in the morning. mjb. From richard.ewald at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 21:47:27 2010 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:47:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2309E927-041E-4532-8A5F-A3663962B59C@gmail.com> I also live in LA. I know the water. My point is your cooling system hold about gallons of fluid. If you were to boil 2 gallons of hard tap water dry how much minerals would you have? A couple of grams maybe? No way in he'll that that amount of minerals would clog a radiator. Now the iron water passages corroding? THAT will clog a radiator. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2010, at 18:32, "Ron Fine" wrote: > I live in West Los Angeles. Our tap water is reputed to be very clean but very hard. Lots of mineral content. Just boil some water in a pot an see the white residue left behind. Let the sprinklers hit your nice polished car and you've got a lot of white spots on your paint. I think that minerals percepitate out of hot water and can, over time, clog up a radiator or just coat the water passages making heat transfer more difficult. > > Ron _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jul 30 21:49:53 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:49:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C539D61.4000109@comcast.net> re: "So if the iron in the block and head isn't a mineral what is it?" An element. The point of using distilled--or, better yet, deionized water--is that it's non-electrolytic; i.e. it does not facilitate a reaction between the iron in the block and oxygen (from air) in the coolant which produces corrosion (rust). Some tap water IS very hard and will leave significant deposits over time. bs Richard Ewald wrote: > So if the iron in the block and head isn't a mineral what is it? Animal or > vegetable? > :-) > (sorry could not resist) > Point is most tap water is so low in mineral content that it won't make a > difference one way or the other. > Rick > > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Fri Jul 30 23:52:10 2010 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:52:10 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] '63 Sebring In-Reply-To: References: <8CCFD3F94D790D1-1F74-86D8@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> <7C936FDA-853F-48C9-8CE2-7CD215F1F1A1@cox.net> <60FE36DE-C048-46C6-A5A8-78945F13FDAA@cox.net> <8CCFD921088DBDB-2974-3364@webmail-m057.sysops.aol.com> <4C52351B.4070000@justbrits.com> <8CCFE05978C484B-2298-A08F@webmail-d092.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C53BA0A.6050501@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> Derek Job wrote: >I saw 54 FAC now newly restored under new Dutch ownership at the LeMans >Classic. The car has been painted a non metallic bluey grey a bit like we >used to call Air Force blue. I'm not sure why this was done as I always >thought these cars were Healey Blue. They certainly seem to be from the >period photos. > >Derek > > > From all the info I have, including pics from the Healey workshop, all the BJ series cars were Healey Blue bodies with white hardtops. 1963 - ----- 54, 56 & 57 FAC 1964 ------- 767 KNX 1965 ------- DAC953C. The 1960 UJB cars were BRG. Joe From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jul 31 00:49:10 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:49:10 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] What to fill your level shocks with In-Reply-To: <728131.35842.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <728131.35842.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C53C766.7060105@chello.nl> I do not think this is a good idea. Hypoid or engine oil should not be used in shock absorbers or any hydraulic system, I would not be surprised if they would destroy some seals. Also viscosity and e.g. foaming properties would not be suitable. Use the specially formulated shock absorber oil as used by rebuilders or perhaps available in motorcycle shops. I do not know the viscosity though. Perhaps hydraulic oil is a suitable alternative?? Kees Oudesluijs NL Greg Mandas wrote: > Hypoid 90. Good idea or bad? > > Greg [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 31 01:04:30 2010 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:04:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Re: Adjustable Shock Plates - thanks! Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20100731000126.02005cd8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Yeah.... for pointing out that I can't #!!**!* read! John >Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:48:58 -0700 >From: Bob Spidell > >I was polite??? I must be slipping. > >bs > >john spaur wrote: >>Thanks to everybody .... Especially BS for politely ..... >> >>John From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 31 01:23:11 2010 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:23:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] What to fill your level shocks with In-Reply-To: <4C53C766.7060105@chello.nl> References: <728131.35842.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4C53C766.7060105@chello.nl> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20100731001755.020ceae0@pop.att.yahoo.com> 20 weight shock oil available from motorcycle shops and probably elsewhere. At 08:49 AM 7/31/2010 +0200, you wrote: >Use the specially formulated shock absorber oil.... I do not know >the viscosity though.... >Kees Oudesluijs >NL > >Greg Mandas wrote: > > Hypoid 90. Good idea or bad? > > > > Greg From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sat Jul 31 01:28:36 2010 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:28:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] What to fill your level shocks with In-Reply-To: <728131.35842.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <728131.35842.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey Greg, I may be going out on a limb here, and call me crazy but why don't you just order a bottle of lever shock fluid from Moss. *Moss Hydraulic Shock Absorber Fluid* Part number 220-304 - $16.75 for 16 fluid oz. http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=31456&SortOrder =1 Direct quote from the Moss page listing this item. "Dont risk damaging your shocks with the wrong type of hydraulic oil! Our shock fluid is custom blended for us specifically for British Girling and Armstrong lever action shock absorbers. The durable plastic bottle has a convenient flip-open pouring spout for easy on-the-road shock refills. 16 fluid ounces." Cheers, Curt On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Greg Mandas wrote: > Hypoid 90. Good idea or bad? > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 31 07:27:33 2010 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:27:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] What to fill your level shocks with References: <728131.35842.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01cb30b4$22eff9b0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Wow, another mule that we have beaten to death over the years. I just returned from the annual MGA annual meet in the Lake Geneva area where Peter Caldwell gave a shock lecture on Do's and Don'ts. His suggestion was 80W 68 jack oil which is close to 20W motor oil. (Tractor stores) Also, leave an air space in the top of the shock fluid chamber for expansion. If not, the oil will leak out the seals eventually. If they ain't leakn, don't fill them. The oil doesn't evaporate. Its OK to take off the covers at some point and flush them out with clean fluid and then refill them. The seals have been greatly improved as most of us have learned, depending on who is doing the rebuilding. There is still some crap out there, beware. Coincidentally, I just happened to sit next to Dick Lunney (mag. editor) who had just recently been to the Healey conclave in Ill. He showed up in the only Healey, the nerve. ; ) Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Mandas" To: Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:42 PM Subject: [Healeys] What to fill your level shocks with > Hypoid 90. Good idea or bad? > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lapierrem at sbcglobal.net From jvvmusme at yahoo.com Sat Jul 31 07:42:38 2010 From: jvvmusme at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Vicente_Vargas?=) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] What to fill your level shocks with In-Reply-To: References: <728131.35842.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <706866.92455.qm@web54106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I agree with curt. besides a few years ago a friend here in Colombia had the Moss Oil analized by an oil importer and the conclusion is that is an Hydraulic Oil, but.... for 16 dlls I usually buy the Moss stuff and have no problems and the price is good and I do not have to go look for it on stores and the plastic bottle is great... so buy it in Moss Josi Vicente Vargas Musmi Tel. (571) 321 3740 Cel. (57) 311 288 3401 Skype: jovivago www.musme.net Bogota, Colombia ________________________________ From: Curt/Nancy Arndt To: Greg Mandas Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, July 31, 2010 2:28:36 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] What to fill your level shocks with Hey Greg, I may be going out on a limb here, and call me crazy but why don't you just order a bottle of lever shock fluid from Moss. *Moss Hydraulic Shock Absorber Fluid* Part number 220-304 - $16.75 for 16 fluid oz. http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=31456&SortOrder =1 Direct quote from the Moss page listing this item. "Dont risk damaging your shocks with the wrong type of hydraulic oil! Our shock fluid is custom blended for us specifically for British Girling and Armstrong lever action shock absorbers. The durable plastic bottle has a convenient flip-open pouring spout for easy on-the-road shock refills. 16 fluid ounces." Cheers, Curt On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Greg Mandas wrote: > Hypoid 90. Good idea or bad? > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jvvmusme at yahoo.com From healeyron at yahoo.com Sat Jul 31 07:45:40 2010 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <841864.52218.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I assume you're referring to City Water. My well water has tons of minerals and to add to that I soften it with Salt. Ron ________________________________ From: Richard Ewald To: Frederich Ficke Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 8:31:41 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] overheating So if the iron in the block and head isn't a mineral what is it? Animal or vegetable? :-) (sorry could not resist) Point is most tap water is so low in mineral content that it won't make a difference one way or the other. Rick On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Frederich Ficke wrote: > I saw in a post earlier about using distilled water. Everyone should do > this > because it has no minerals in it therefore you will never have mineral > growth in your water that will block the tubes in the radiator. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/richard.ewald at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyron at yahoo.com From peter at nosimport.com Sat Jul 31 07:45:45 2010 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:45:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] What to fill your level shocks with In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20100731001755.020ceae0@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <728131.35842.qm@web56102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4C53C766.7060105@chello.nl> <6.2.3.4.2.20100731001755.020ceae0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100731064535.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> We use a hydraulic oil intended for hydraulic rams and equipment such as jacks, etc. Usually available at farm stores and industrial suppliers. Jack oil works as well, but try to find some labeled as suitable for snowplow rams. It'll have some anti-foaming agents. The technical specification is AW68 or AWE68.It has a motoroil equivalent viscosity to 20W. The key, as I teach (and preach) is to not OVERFILL. Only top up if there is evidence of leaking... notably at the shaft seals. If there's too much oil, it will pressurize when hot and seep from the seals, attracting road grime, and eventually destroy the seals and erode the shaft. The oil in shock does not magically disappear, it either leaks, or not. If you feel compelled to "top-up" at every oil change, tighten the mounting screws instead. Honest, we see many failures due precisely to overfilling. It should not run out of the filler hole, like you expect with differentials and gearboxes. Peter C Hypoid 90, btw, is close to 50W engine oil, and is NOT suitable in a lever shock. Things will breal. ======= At 02:23 AM 7/31/2010, john spaur wrote: >20 weight shock oil available from motorcycle shops and probably elsewhere. > >At 08:49 AM 7/31/2010 +0200, you wrote: >>Use the specially formulated shock absorber oil.... I do not know >>the viscosity though.... >>Kees Oudesluijs >>NL >> >>Greg Mandas wrote: >> > Hypoid 90. Good idea or bad? >> > >> > Greg From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jul 31 08:23:36 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:23:36 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: <841864.52218.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <841864.52218.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C5431E8.6070005@chello.nl> Any mains tap water in the so called civilized world has impurities in it e.g. some form of disinfectant, mainly some kind of chloride compound I believe. Often fluoride is added as well and the water is made "harder" for health reasons by the water authorities. Have a look in your wifes steam iron, the coffee machine or the water boiler. These sediments react with the iron, brass and aluminium present in your engines and cooling systems and cause havoc in the long run. We have a lot of USA imports (classics) over here from the sunny states. Many rust free cars but practically all radiators are scrap as they are silted up because of the use of plain tap water. You hardly see that on cars that have been driving around in northern and middle Europe bar Great Britain and Ireland. Kees Oudesluijs NL > From: Richard Ewald > .............. > Point is most tap water is so low in mineral > content that it won't make a > difference one way or the other. > Rick [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Jul 31 08:29:14 2010 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:29:14 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?water_wetter?= Message-ID: <20100731142914.10888.qmail@server278.com> tried it last year in the bj8. no discernable difference. had distilled water and about 20-30 percent antifreeze. hjim From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sat Jul 31 09:38:16 2010 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:38:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: <4C5431E8.6070005@chello.nl> References: , , <841864.52218.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <4C5431E8.6070005@chello.nl> Message-ID: They sell a lot of shower cleaners to get rid of the sediment which is still very hard to remove from the floors and walls. Same crap in the engines. I vote for distilled water. Rich Kahn > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:23:36 +0200 > From: coudesluijs at chello.nl > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] overheating > > Any mains tap water in the so called civilized world has impurities in > it e.g. some form of disinfectant, mainly some kind of chloride compound > I believe. Often fluoride is added as well and the water is made > "harder" for health reasons by the water authorities. Have a look in > your wifes steam iron, the coffee machine or the water boiler. > These sediments react with the iron, brass and aluminium present in your > engines and cooling systems and cause havoc in the long run. > We have a lot of USA imports (classics) over here from the sunny > states. Many rust free cars but practically all radiators are scrap as > they are silted up because of the use of plain tap water. You hardly see > that on cars that have been driving around in northern and middle Europe > bar Great Britain and Ireland. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > > > From: Richard Ewald > > .............. > > Point is most tap water is so low in mineral > > content that it won't make a > > difference one way or the other. > > Rick > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tahoehealey at hotmail.com From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Jul 31 09:57:58 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:57:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: References: , , <841864.52218.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <4C5431E8.6070005@chello.nl> Message-ID: <01f301cb30c9$25da89f0$718f9dd0$@verizon.net> I've used distilled water exclusively since 1956 when I got my first car while in high school and can not remember ever having a radiator problem due to scaling, etc. Of course, sometimes I can not remember in the afternoon what I had for breakfast in the morning but that is another story. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kahn Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:38 AM To: coudesluijs at chello.nl; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] overheating They sell a lot of shower cleaners to get rid of the sediment which is still very hard to remove from the floors and walls. Same crap in the engines. I vote for distilled water. Rich Kahn From charlieoc at comcast.net Sat Jul 31 11:52:07 2010 From: charlieoc at comcast.net (Charlie O'Connors) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:52:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set Message-ID: <014601cb30d9$18a62810$49f27830$@net> I want to replace the ignition wire set on my 1960 BT7. I was looking at the Cobalt set sold by Moss as well as the Magnecor wire sets, but they appear to be more for later model 3000s. Any suggestions on ignition wire sets for the 1960 Austin Healey? Charlie O'Connors Havana, Florida 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 1960 Austin Healey Sprite From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jul 31 13:11:52 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:11:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: <01f301cb30c9$25da89f0$718f9dd0$@verizon.net> References: , , <841864.52218.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <4C5431E8.6070005@chello.nl> <01f301cb30c9$25da89f0$718f9dd0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: My radiator is out, just got back from being recored. Manifolds are off too. Is there anyway to flush the engine, or do I wait for it to be running again and then flush it? I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:57 AM, "John Sims" wrote: > I've used distilled water exclusively since 1956 when I got my first > car > while in high school and can not remember ever having a radiator > problem due > to scaling, etc. Of course, sometimes I can not remember in the > afternoon > what I had for breakfast in the morning but that is another story. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Richard Kahn > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:38 AM > To: coudesluijs at chello.nl; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] overheating > > They sell a lot of shower cleaners to get rid of the sediment which > is still > very hard to remove from the floors and walls. Same crap in the > engines. I > vote for distilled water. > Rich Kahn > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3 at gmail.com From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Jul 31 13:15:36 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:15:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Message-ID: <020301cb30e4$c1ab0b00$45012100$@verizon.net> For those of you who can't find it, I found 30wt non detergent oil at my local Wal-Mart today. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Jul 31 14:03:56 2010 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:03:56 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: References: , , <841864.52218.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <4C5431E8.6070005@chello.nl> <01f301cb30c9$25da89f0$718f9dd0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4C5481AC.2080200@chello.nl> You should have flushed the engine before you send the radiator away. Try getting hold of an old radiator, any radiator that will appr. fit. Fill up with water and caustic soda or one of the products you can buy in the auto store, and let the engine run for an hour or so. Drain the system, remove the radiator and connect a water hose to the water pump outlet to a hot water tap, then back flush the engine thoroughly with a strong flow. This will get the loosened debris out of the engine instead of in your new shiny recored radiator and blocking it. Kees Oudesluijs NL > My radiator is out, just got back from being recored. Manifolds are > off too. Is there anyway to flush the engine, or do I wait for it to > be running again and then flush it? > > I Erbs > Sent from my iPod > > On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:57 AM, "John Sims" wrote: [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of coudesluijs.vcf] From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jul 31 14:07:11 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: <4C5431E8.6070005@chello.nl> Message-ID: <2015790127.815836.1280606831074.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> re: " You hardly see that on cars that have been driving around in northern and middle Europe bar Great Britain and Ireland." What do they use? Beer? bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:23:36 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] overheating Any mains tap water in the so called civilized world has impurities in it e.g. some form of disinfectant, mainly some kind of chloride compound I believe. Often fluoride is added as well and the water is made "harder" for health reasons by the water authorities. Have a look in your wifes steam iron, the coffee machine or the water boiler. These sediments react with the iron, brass and aluminium present in your engines and cooling systems and cause havoc in the long run. We have a lot of USA imports (classics) over here from the sunny states. Many rust free cars but practically all radiators are scrap as they are silted up because of the use of plain tap water. You hardly see that on cars that have been driving around in northern and middle Europe bar Great Britain and Ireland. Kees Oudesluijs NL From quenty at ntelos.net Sat Jul 31 14:16:35 2010 From: quenty at ntelos.net (Quentin Schweninger) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:16:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: <4C538BBD.8040707@justbrits.com> References: <4C538BBD.8040707@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Does anyone have a Decoder Ring for Ed's posts? On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Shop at Just Brits wrote: I wish I was as handsome and/or RICH as the chap that has [ditto of my FaceBook 'feelings'] this "comment" about FB !!! http://www.celebnewswire.com/archives/george-clooney-facebook-foe.html or *http://tinyurl.com/2blqm4k* But ya'll just keep on Rockin & Rollin on FB !!!* *ROTFLMAO !!!! MORE 'priceless' than a MasterCard Ad !!!* *Ed _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/quenty at ntelos.net From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Jul 31 14:24:11 2010 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:24:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] overheating In-Reply-To: <4C5481AC.2080200@chello.nl> References: <841864.52218.qm@web32901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C5431E8.6070005@chello.nl> <01f301cb30c9$25da89f0$718f9dd0$@verizon.net> <4C5481AC.2080200@chello.nl> Message-ID: good advice. As stated a previous post ( last month or so I had the radiator cleaned out and recored last year. It was only when I pulled it as part of my resto, did I see how I got ripped off and sent it out for proper recore. I think I can borrow something, and will wait until it starts again, cheers 2010/7/31 Oudesluys > You should have flushed the engine before you send the raded in a previous > postiator away. Try getting hold of an old radiator, any radiator that will > appr. fit. Fill up with water and caustic soda or one of the products you > can buy in the auto store, and let the engine run for an hour or so. Drain > the system, remove the radiator and connect a water hose to the water pump > outlet to a hot water tap, then back flush the engine thoroughly with a > strong flow. > This will get the loosened debris out of the engine instead of in your new > shiny recored radiator and blocking it. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > > My radiator is out, just got back from being recored. Manifolds are off >> too. Is there anyway to flush the engine, or do I wait for it to be running >> again and then flush it? >> >> I Erbs >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:57 AM, "John Sims" wrote: >> >> > -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR _______ _______ (______ \____1960 BT7____/ _______) (_________________________) From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Jul 31 14:25:15 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:25:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: References: <4C538BBD.8040707@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <020e01cb30ee$7c6f74e0$754e5ea0$@verizon.net> It's called the "Delete" key -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Quentin Schweninger Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:17 PM To: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] FACEBOOK Does anyone have a Decoder Ring for Ed's posts? On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Shop at Just Brits wrote: I wish I was as handsome and/or RICH as the chap that has [ditto of my FaceBook 'feelings'] this "comment" about FB !!! http://www.celebnewswire.com/archives/george-clooney-facebook-foe.html or *http://tinyurl.com/2blqm4k* But ya'll just keep on Rockin & Rollin on FB !!!* *ROTFLMAO !!!! MORE 'priceless' than a MasterCard Ad !!!* *Ed From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Jul 31 14:25:13 2010 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:25:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil In-Reply-To: <020301cb30e4$c1ab0b00$45012100$@verizon.net> References: <020301cb30e4$c1ab0b00$45012100$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <00a501cb30ee$7b635c10$722a1430$@rr.com> John, I bought some 30W non-detergent oil at Wal-Mart ("Accel" brand) a couple years ago. I put it in my gearbox and overdrive, and shortly thereafter the overdrive began to fail to release. I could not reverse the car, and could not push it backwards, either, until it did eventually release itself. Fortunately, I first discovered the problem when I tried to push the car backwards out of the garage and not when trying to back up out on the road. This continued intermittently over a period of weeks until I flushed out the Accel oil and refilled with my usual Valvoline non-detergent. No problems at all, since. Maybe the oil wasn't the cause of the problem, but it happened on its watch so it gets the blame. Happy Healeying! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 3:16 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Oil For those of you who can't find it, I found 30wt non detergent oil at my local Wal-Mart today. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From mark at bradakis.com Sat Jul 31 14:55:39 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:55:39 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: References: <4C538BBD.8040707@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4C548DCB.8020308@bradakis.com> Quentin Schweninger wrote: > Does anyone have a Decoder Ring for Ed's posts? I tried on I got on EBay. The first decoded message was something like 'Drink more Ovaltine' I thought about giving it to some kid for Christmas, but just threw it in the dustbin. mjb. From warthodson at aol.com Sat Jul 31 15:13:34 2010 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:13:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] '63 Sebring In-Reply-To: <24070945.143541280560910490.JavaMail.www@wsfrf1111> References: <8CCFD3F94D790D1-1F74-86D8@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com><7C936FDA-853F-48C9-8CE2-7CD215F1F1A1@cox.net><60FE36DE-C048-46C6-A5A8-78945F13FDAA@cox.net><8CCFD921088DBDB-2974-3364@webmail-m057.sysops.aol.com><4C52351B.4070000@justbrits.com> <24070945.143541280560910490.JavaMail.www@wsfrf1111> Message-ID: <8CCFF0C5E7684AF-1D60-D672@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com> That is close but not the one I am looking for. I cannot remember if it was color or black & white. As I recall, it had 54FAC, 56FAC & 57FAC side by side facing the camera head on. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: BC To: warthodson at aol.com Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:21 am Subject: Re: Re: [Healeys] '63 Sebring This one? http://www.healeymeetslemans.nl/albums/nieuws/54fac_12.jpg B ======================================== Message du : 30/07/2010 De : "warthodson at aol.com " A : healeys at autox.team.net Copie C : Sujet : Re: [Healeys] '63 Sebring The one photo I would like to find & get a high resolution of shows all three of the '63 Sebring cars (54FAC, 56FAC & 57FAC) in a row facint the camera & surrounded by a large group of people. I cannot remember where I saw it & I don't seeem to be able to find it again. Anyone recall this photo & can help me out? Gary Hodson _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jagxk120 at gmail.com From e-wilkins at cox.net Sat Jul 31 15:30:40 2010 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:30:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] '63 Sebring In-Reply-To: <8CCFF0C5E7684AF-1D60-D672@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCFD3F94D790D1-1F74-86D8@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com><7C936FDA-853F-48C9-8CE2-7CD215F1F1A1@cox.net><60FE36DE-C048-46C6-A5A8-78945F13FDAA@cox.net><8CCFD921088DBDB-2974-3364@webmail-m057.sysops.aol.com><4C52351B.4070000@justbrits.com> <24070945.143541280560910490.JavaMail.www@wsfrf1111> <8CCFF0C5E7684AF-1D60-D672@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: There are few black and whites of the 1960 UJB cars from the front. On Jul 31, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Warthodson at aol.com wrote: > That is close but not the one I am looking for. I cannot remember if > it was > color or black & white. As I recall, it had 54FAC, 56FAC & 57FAC > side by side > facing the camera head on. > Gary Hodson > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BC > To: warthodson at aol.com > Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:21 am > Subject: Re: Re: [Healeys] '63 Sebring > > > This one? > http://www.healeymeetslemans.nl/albums/nieuws/54fac_12.jpg > > > B > > ======================================== > > Message du : 30/07/2010 > De : "warthodson at aol.com " > A : healeys at autox.team.net > Copie C : > Sujet : Re: [Healeys] '63 Sebring > > > > The one photo I would like to find & get a high resolution of shows > all three > of the '63 Sebring cars (54FAC, 56FAC & 57FAC) in a row facint the > camera & > surrounded by a large group of people. I cannot remember where I saw > it & I > don't seeem to be able to find it again. > Anyone recall this photo & can help me out? > Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jagxk120 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/e-wilkins at cox.net From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Jul 31 15:48:52 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:48:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil In-Reply-To: <00a501cb30ee$7b635c10$722a1430$@rr.com> References: <020301cb30e4$c1ab0b00$45012100$@verizon.net> <00a501cb30ee$7b635c10$722a1430$@rr.com> Message-ID: <021601cb30fa$2b380540$81a80fc0$@verizon.net> That's the brand and that is enough to keep me away from it. John -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:25 PM To: 'Healey List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil John, I bought some 30W non-detergent oil at Wal-Mart ("Accel" brand) a couple years ago. I put it in my gearbox and overdrive, and shortly thereafter the overdrive began to fail to release. I could not reverse the car, and could not push it backwards, either, until it did eventually release itself. Fortunately, I first discovered the problem when I tried to push the car backwards out of the garage and not when trying to back up out on the road. This continued intermittently over a period of weeks until I flushed out the Accel oil and refilled with my usual Valvoline non-detergent. No problems at all, since. Maybe the oil wasn't the cause of the problem, but it happened on its watch so it gets the blame. Happy Healeying! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 3:16 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Oil For those of you who can't find it, I found 30wt non detergent oil at my local Wal-Mart today. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 31 15:51:47 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 05:51:47 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set In-Reply-To: <014601cb30d9$18a62810$49f27830$@net> References: <014601cb30d9$18a62810$49f27830$@net> Message-ID: Charlie - I would not recommend any modern type wire set for any Healey unless you purchase a TR6 dizzy cap (fits on BJ8 dizzy) or replace the dizzy with a Pertonix/123/Mallory dizzy. Your best bet is to make up your own wires using bumblebee wire or any other solid metal core wire. The cap on the 6-cyl works best with solid metal wire core. If it's any kind of suppressed wire it will fail with that screw cap. Alan On 8/1/10, Charlie O'Connors wrote: > I want to replace the ignition wire set on my 1960 BT7. I was looking at > the Cobalt set sold by Moss as well as the Magnecor wire sets, but they > appear to be more for later model 3000s. Any suggestions on ignition wire > sets for the 1960 Austin Healey? > > > > Charlie O'Connors > > Havana, Florida > > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 31 16:06:51 2010 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:06:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] '63 Sebring In-Reply-To: <8CCFF0C5E7684AF-1D60-D672@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCFD3F94D790D1-1F74-86D8@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com><7C936FDA-853F-48C9-8CE2-7CD215F1F1A1@cox.net><60FE36DE-C048-46C6-A5A8-78945F13FDAA@cox.net><8CCFD921088DBDB-2974-3364@webmail-m057.sysops.aol.com><4C52351B.4070000@justbrits.com> <24070945.143541280560910490.JavaMail.www@wsfrf1111> <8CCFF0C5E7684AF-1D60-D672@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C549E7B.3000003@justbrits.com> << As I recall, it had 54FAC, 56FAC & 57FAC side by side facing the camera head on. >> And at a slight angle in some sort of 'tent', Gary ?? I recall seeing one also, but NOT where !! From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jul 31 16:16:59 2010 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:16:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1546614080.818713.1280614619495.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I second Alan's comments--first-hand experience. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Charlie - I would not recommend any modern type wire set for any Healey unless you purchase a TR6 dizzy cap (fits on BJ8 dizzy) or replace the dizzy with a Pertonix/123/Mallory dizzy. Your best bet is to make up your own wires using bumblebee wire or any other solid metal core wire. The cap on the 6-cyl works best with solid metal wire core. If it's any kind of suppressed wire it will fail with that screw cap. Alan On 8/1/10, Charlie O'Connors wrote: > I want to replace the ignition wire set on my 1960 BT7. I was looking at > the Cobalt set sold by Moss as well as the Magnecor wire sets, but they > appear to be more for later model 3000s. Any suggestions on ignition wire > sets for the 1960 Austin Healey? > > > > Charlie O'Connors > > Havana, Florida > > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 31 16:17:53 2010 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 06:17:53 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] FACEBOOK In-Reply-To: References: <4C538BBD.8040707@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Edbonics 101 should be taught at your local community college. Mercifully, there is no textbook. No decoder ring available, except possibly in remote districts of Irkutsk Oblast. On 8/1/10, Quentin Schweninger wrote: > Does anyone have a Decoder Ring for Ed's posts? > > > > > > On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Shop at Just Brits wrote: > > I wish I was as handsome and/or RICH as the chap that has [ditto > of my FaceBook 'feelings'] this "comment" about FB !!! > > http://www.celebnewswire.com/archives/george-clooney-facebook-foe.html > > or > > *http://tinyurl.com/2blqm4k* > > But ya'll just keep on Rockin & Rollin on FB !!!* > > *ROTFLMAO !!!! MORE 'priceless' than a MasterCard Ad !!!* > > *Ed > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/quenty at ntelos.net > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healey.nut at gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device From rpschauss at gmail.com Sat Jul 31 16:31:43 2010 From: rpschauss at gmail.com (Peter Schauss) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:31:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil In-Reply-To: <00a501cb30ee$7b635c10$722a1430$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4c54a450.4131dc0a.1106.5ae7@mx.google.com> I had a similar problem with an off-brand non-detergent oil. In my case it would release after a few minutes. It took a couple of oil changes and several cleanings of the passages in the actuating valve circuit to cure the problem. -Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:25 PM > To: 'Healey List' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil > > John, I bought some 30W non-detergent oil at Wal-Mart ("Accel" brand) a > couple years ago. I put it in my gearbox and overdrive, and shortly > thereafter the overdrive began to fail to release. I could not reverse > the > car, and could not push it backwards, either, until it did eventually > release itself. Fortunately, I first discovered the problem when I tried > to > push the car backwards out of the garage and not when trying to back up > out > on the road. > This continued intermittently over a period of weeks until I flushed out > the > Accel oil and refilled with my usual Valvoline non-detergent. No problems > at all, since. Maybe the oil wasn't the cause of the problem, but it > happened on its watch so it gets the blame. > > Happy Healeying! > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA From bighealey3k at aim.com Sat Jul 31 17:08:15 2010 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (bighealey3k at aim.com) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:08:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set In-Reply-To: <014601cb30d9$18a62810$49f27830$@net> References: <014601cb30d9$18a62810$49f27830$@net> Message-ID: <8CCFF1C63CCCE16-50CC-1BB34@Webmail-d118.sysops.aol.com> Most auto parts stores have 6 cyl. tractor ignition wire sets with the spark plug ends already crimped on including the rubber boots. That is the only way I know of to get solid wire core ignition wires already made up. Use resistor spark plugs to eliminate ignition noise in you car radio if needed and for the car next to you on the road. Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: Charlie O'Connors To: Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:52 pm Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set I want to replace the ignition wire set on my 1960 BT7. I was looking at he Cobalt set sold by Moss as well as the Magnecor wire sets, but they ppear to be more for later model 3000s. Any suggestions on ignition wire ets for the 1960 Austin Healey? Charlie O'Connors Havana, Florida 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 1960 Austin Healey Sprite ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey3k at aim.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jul 31 17:12:27 2010 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey - For the Man in Command Message-ID: <865376.72066.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Nice feature on "The Chicane" for AH advertisements: http://thechicaneblog.com/ Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From robertlarson at att.net Sat Jul 31 17:39:19 2010 From: robertlarson at att.net (Bob) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:39:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set In-Reply-To: <8CCFF1C63CCCE16-50CC-1BB34@Webmail-d118.sysops.aol.com> References: <014601cb30d9$18a62810$49f27830$@net> <8CCFF1C63CCCE16-50CC-1BB34@Webmail-d118.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C54B427.1090708@att.net> I believe that it was mentioned on the list before that TSC (Tractor Supply Co.) a national chain had sets for both the 4 and 6 cylinder tractors. I got a 4 cylinder set that was quite well made and cheap too, but that was a few years ago. There is a TSC about 20 miles from me here in NJ. Bob 55 BN1 On 7/31/2010 7:08 PM, bighealey3k at aim.com wrote: > Most auto parts stores have 6 cyl. tractor ignition wire sets with the spark > plug ends already crimped on including the rubber boots. That is the only way > I know of to get solid wire core ignition wires already made up. Use resistor > spark plugs to eliminate ignition noise in you car radio if needed and for the > car next to you on the road. > > Larry > '67 BJ8 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie O'Connors > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:52 pm > Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set > > > I want to replace the ignition wire set on my 1960 BT7. I was looking at > he Cobalt set sold by Moss as well as the Magnecor wire sets, but they > ppear to be more for later model 3000s. Any suggestions on ignition wire > ets for the 1960 Austin Healey? > > Charlie O'Connors > Havana, Florida > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite From charlieoc at comcast.net Sat Jul 31 18:18:15 2010 From: charlieoc at comcast.net (Charlie O'Connors) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:18:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set In-Reply-To: <4C54B427.1090708@att.net> References: <014601cb30d9$18a62810$49f27830$@net> <8CCFF1C63CCCE16-50CC-1BB34@Webmail-d118.sysops.aol.com> <4C54B427.1090708@att.net> Message-ID: <01b801cb310f$09f56a20$1de03e60$@net> We have a new TSC in Tallahassee. I think I'll pay them a visit tomorrow. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:39 PM To: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set I believe that it was mentioned on the list before that TSC (Tractor Supply Co.) a national chain had sets for both the 4 and 6 cylinder tractors. I got a 4 cylinder set that was quite well made and cheap too, but that was a few years ago. There is a TSC about 20 miles from me here in NJ. Bob 55 BN1 On 7/31/2010 7:08 PM, bighealey3k at aim.com wrote: > Most auto parts stores have 6 cyl. tractor ignition wire sets with the spark > plug ends already crimped on including the rubber boots. That is the only way > I know of to get solid wire core ignition wires already made up. Use resistor > spark plugs to eliminate ignition noise in you car radio if needed and for the > car next to you on the road. > > Larry > '67 BJ8 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie O'Connors > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:52 pm > Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set > > > I want to replace the ignition wire set on my 1960 BT7. I was looking at > he Cobalt set sold by Moss as well as the Magnecor wire sets, but they > ppear to be more for later model 3000s. Any suggestions on ignition wire > ets for the 1960 Austin Healey? > > Charlie O'Connors > Havana, Florida > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/charlieoc at comcast.net From mgcharlie at comcast.net Sat Jul 31 18:34:12 2010 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:34:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Taste of Britain Car Show Message-ID: <4C54C104.5010503@comcast.net> Hello everyone, If you're in the south central Pennsylvania area or will be in the Lancaster area of Pennsylvania on the weekend of August 22,2010 check out the "A Taste of Britain Car Show and Polo Match in Rothsville PA which is in Lancaster County near Brownstown which is north east of the City of Lancaster, South east of Harrisburg, south west of Reading and west of Philadelphia. Here is the link for the event. http://www.lancomgclub.com/taste_of_britain.htm The pdf form for registration link is within the above link for downloading/printing. Hope you can come out or if you know someone that can but isn't a group member here please pass this along to them. Thanks. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Jul 31 18:52:56 2010 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:52:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Taste of Britain Car Show In-Reply-To: <4C54C104.5010503@comcast.net> References: <4C54C104.5010503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <021701cb3113$e1c40250$a54c06f0$@verizon.net> And, if you want a treat, visit "Brits on the Beach" held by the Positive Earth Drivers Club at Ocean Grove, NJ on September 25, 2010. Ocean Grove is a one square mile old time historic religious community composed of authentic Victorian houses and is very beautiful especially with our cars on show. We expect over 100 cars. You can wade in the Atlantic Ocean, walk two blocks and see terrific cars including mine. For a brochure, look on the Contact Me page on my site. To see videos of last years show, look on the Video page. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charlie Baldwin Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:34 PM To: mgacars at yahoogroups.com; healey list; MGTCDF at yahoogroups.com; T series list; Capital Area Austin Healey Subject: [Healeys] Taste of Britain Car Show Hello everyone, If you're in the south central Pennsylvania area or will be in the Lancaster area of Pennsylvania on the weekend of August 22,2010 check out the "A Taste of Britain Car Show and Polo Match in Rothsville PA which is in Lancaster County near Brownstown which is north east of the City of Lancaster, South east of Harrisburg, south west of Reading and west of Philadelphia. Here is the link for the event. http://www.lancomgclub.com/taste_of_britain.htm The pdf form for registration link is within the above link for downloading/printing. Hope you can come out or if you know someone that can but isn't a group member here please pass this along to them. Thanks. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From bighealey3k at aim.com Sat Jul 31 19:22:23 2010 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (bighealey3k at aim.com) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:22:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set In-Reply-To: <01b801cb310f$09f56a20$1de03e60$@net> References: <014601cb30d9$18a62810$49f27830$@net><8CCFF1C63CCCE16-50CC-1BB34@Webmail-d118.sysops.aol.com><4C54B427.1090708@att.net> <01b801cb310f$09f56a20$1de03e60$@net> Message-ID: <8CCFF2F20DA2A5F-50CC-1C819@Webmail-d118.sysops.aol.com> Charlie, Try this link I found http://www.tractorsupply.com/tractor-tune-up-parts/6-cylinder-spark-plug-wire -set-0236693. It is a Tractor Supply Co. web site and is reasonably priced. Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: Charlie O'Connors To: robertlarson at att.net; Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2010 8:18 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set We have a new TSC in Tallahassee. I think I'll pay them a visit tomorrow. -----Original Message----- rom: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] n Behalf Of Bob ent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:39 PM o: Healey List ubject: Re: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set I believe that it was mentioned on the list before that TSC (Tractor upply Co.) a national chain had ets for both the 4 and 6 cylinder tractors. I got a 4 cylinder set hat was quite well made and heap too, but that was a few years ago. There is a TSC about 20 iles from me here in NJ. Bob 5 BN1 On 7/31/2010 7:08 PM, bighealey3k at aim.com wrote: Most auto parts stores have 6 cyl. tractor ignition wire sets with the park plug ends already crimped on including the rubber boots. That is the only ay I know of to get solid wire core ignition wires already made up. Use esistor spark plugs to eliminate ignition noise in you car radio if needed and for he car next to you on the road. Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: Charlie O'Connors To: Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:52 pm Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set I want to replace the ignition wire set on my 1960 BT7. I was looking at he Cobalt set sold by Moss as well as the Magnecor wire sets, but they ppear to be more for later model 3000s. Any suggestions on ignition wire ets for the 1960 Austin Healey? Charlie O'Connors Havana, Florida 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 1960 Austin Healey Sprite ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/charlieoc at comcast.net ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey3k at aim.com From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Jul 31 19:49:16 2010 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:49:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set In-Reply-To: <8CCFF1C63CCCE16-50CC-1BB34@Webmail-d118.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20100731214917.UPPYL.102867.root@pamxwww02-z01> FWIW, I just bought a set of wires for my E that had the end caps that are, for the lack of another word, swaged on the wires---they are made in England and say so on the tops of the caps. They are metal wire core. I will replace the Champion screw-on caps I have been using and use the sealed end cap ones. These would work perfectly for the Healey. If anyone wants to know the source, let me know off line. Tom ---- bighealey3k at aim.com wrote: ============= Most auto parts stores have 6 cyl. tractor ignition wire sets with the spark plug ends already crimped on including the rubber boots. That is the only way I know of to get solid wire core ignition wires already made up. Use resistor spark plugs to eliminate ignition noise in you car radio if needed and for the car next to you on the road. Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: Charlie O'Connors To: Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:52 pm Subject: [Healeys] Ignition Wire Set I want to replace the ignition wire set on my 1960 BT7. I was looking at he Cobalt set sold by Moss as well as the Magnecor wire sets, but they ppear to be more for later model 3000s. Any suggestions on ignition wire ets for the 1960 Austin Healey? Charlie O'Connors Havana, Florida 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 1960 Austin Healey Sprite ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey3k at aim.com _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/tomfelts at windstream.net From bighealey at astound.net Sat Jul 31 21:06:55 2010 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:06:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Bouncing Speedometer & Clutch Judder Message-ID: <2776D64AAC0A43C391F222FAD7EE0280@JohnSoderling> Off and on there has been a thread on this List about the problem of a bouncing speedometer needle. I've had this problem with Erika the Red's speedometer for the past 12 years or so - the needle would bounce 5 MPH back and forth once the speed exceeded 50 MPH. I lived with it thinking that it was caused by a failing needle bush or magnetic wheel in the old speedometer and some day I'd pull it out and get it rebuilt. Well earlier this month while at Healey Rendezvous 2010 in Eugene, Oregon the speedometer stopped working altogether. On the way home the gremlins struck again - I lost all master clutch cylinder hydraulics and later was forced to stop at a traffic signal 35 miles from home and had to be hauled home. I decided to replace both the master and slave clutch cylinders and I removed the transmission cover and bulk head to make it easy to replace and bleed the slave. It was then I noticed that my speedometer angle drive was flopping around and that this had finally broken the drive end of speedometer cable. So I had to replace both the angle drive and the cable and guess what? My speedometer now works perfectly with no needle bounce. The needle problem all along had been due to a failing angle drive. So if your speedo needle bounces, first check your angle drive before sending you speedometer out for rebuild. In order to not exceed the List maximum file size, I'll cover the judder issue in a follow up email. Vrooom vrooom, JOhn From bighealey at astound.net Sat Jul 31 21:24:38 2010 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:24:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Judder Continued Message-ID: <61F1D89FA9D0472AA00A3D168B4EC467@JohnSoderling> I have also had some annoying clutch judder when starting out in 2nd gear. I assumed it was due to a little oil on the clutch plate since Erika doesn't have a rear seal. With the transmission cover off for the slave cylinder work, I also noticed that my rubber transmission mounts had pretty much disintegrated and were the consistency of firm Jell-O. So I replaced them and guess what. Presto, the clutch judder was gone! I guess the tranny and clutch/engine shafts were slightly out of align due to the failed tranny mounts. So if you have some clutch judder, check the condition of your transmission mounts as one possible cause. The moral of the story is that loosing my clutch hydraulics was really a blessing in disguise! Vrooom vrooom, John From bighealey3k at aim.com Sat Jul 31 22:10:20 2010 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (bighealey3k at aim.com) Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2010 00:10:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Judder Continued In-Reply-To: <61F1D89FA9D0472AA00A3D168B4EC467@JohnSoderling> References: <61F1D89FA9D0472AA00A3D168B4EC467@JohnSoderling> Message-ID: <8CCFF4697444654-50CC-1D841@Webmail-d118.sysops.aol.com> John, You should check the condition of your forward main engine mounts too, unless you've already done that. The upper or horizontal small pads shouldn't be resting on the frame brackets for the vertical mounts. The upper pads come into play in high torque situations or if the main mounts fail. If the upper pads are resting on the frame mount brackets, the main engine mounts maybe starting to fail or tired from holding up that cast iron lump under the hood (bonnet) :-). I found this on a friends '62 Tri Carb and when the mounts were taken off, the rubber blocks were trapezoidal instead of rectangular looking at them from the side. Maybe the tail shaft thrashing about had something to do with your angle drive failing. Just a thought. Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: John Soderling To: Healey list Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:24 pm Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Judder Continued I have also had some annoying clutch judder when starting out in 2nd gear. I ssumed it was due to a little oil on the clutch plate since Erika doesn't ave a rear seal. With the transmission cover off for the slave cylinder ork, I also noticed that my rubber transmission mounts had pretty much isintegrated and were the consistency of firm Jell-O. So I replaced them and uess what. Presto, the clutch judder was gone! I guess the tranny and lutch/engine shafts were slightly out of align due to the failed tranny ounts. So if you have some clutch judder, check the condition of your ransmission mounts as one possible cause. The moral of the story is that loosing my clutch hydraulics was really a lessing in disguise! Vrooom vrooom, ohn ______________________________________________ ealeys at autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey3k at aim.com From Editorgary at aol.com Sat Jul 31 22:58:56 2010 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 00:58:56 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Solid core non-resistor wires Message-ID: In a message dated 7/31/10 6:51:06 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Use resistor > spark plugs to eliminate ignition noise in you car radio if needed and for > the > car next to you on the road. > Wonder if that would screw up cell phone reception of cars around me? BTW, for those who still run tube tires, tractor supply places are often recommended as the place where you can find the proper tube to fit a 165x15 tire, since most car stores no longer stock tubes. Wonder what else is still available at tractor supply stores that would be good for our cars, and that can't be found at the typical aftermarket auto supply stores. Best Gary