From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sun Nov 1 04:18:38 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:18:38 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Wiring loom query Message-ID: <000001ca5ae5$0fe83fd0$2fb8bf70$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> I have a MkII BT7 3000..... The grille is out of the car and the front end is generally "get-at-able". The wiring loom's progress around this area of the car has always been a bit of a mystery to me and, it seems, to previous owners, mechanics, paint sprayers etc....plastic cable ties everywhere...all worked but was a bit of a mess. So, where is it all actually meant to go? To what is the loom clipped and with what? And, can one clip(?) it all in before re-installing the grille then the radiator? What's the order of play here? Thanks, Simon. From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Nov 1 05:36:35 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:36:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Web Site Updates Message-ID: <008501ca5aef$f3ba8010$db2f8030$@net> The articles from I Erbs are now on my site under the Fuel System (Fuel Pump repairs) and Ignition System (Distributor Fault Finding) sections of the Technical Page. There are about a dozen other updates on that page, locally obtainable parts and Important Links pages that I have placed in the past 10 days or so. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 06:23:07 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:23:07 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Lubrication In-Reply-To: <5VuGt8IXVD7KFwdy@jharper.demon.co.uk> References: <6ea3ee9e0910291455q2fa74be7k9e8216629f68017e@mail.gmail.com> <4AEA2617.2010407@chello.nl> <5VuGt8IXVD7KFwdy@jharper.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: John - I have the manifolds from two A90s and my 100, the bell crank pivot is likely carbon steel / bolt steel of some sort. All of the ones I've had are corroded and needed replacement. Usually the corrosion is around the bolt head and threads, not the pivot. All the pivots themselves were very clean without corrosion, I suspect that the bell crank uses a brass bush of some sort and the brass probably works its way into the pivot's surface over time, hence the lack of corrosion. The replacement pivots you can buy are black coated like a typical British made bolt, so standard grade 5 bolt steel is probably what it is. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:02 PM, John Harper wrote: > > Alan > > If they are not stainless steel then the metal must be something very > similar. I have just checked four spare manifolds; a couple from Atlantics > but you will know that they are the same. All are originals and must be > around 55 years old. None show any significant corrosion and are still > bright and shiny if lightly polished. > > If they are not stainless steel then what is the metal likely to be? > > If vendors are selling pivots made of mild steel then they are in my view > selling an inferior product. > > Regards From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Nov 1 07:57:24 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 09:57:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Halloween (non-Healey) Message-ID: <20091101.065738.1054.34552@mailpop02.dca.untd.com> Just an observation, but it seemed like there were far less trick or treaters out last night. Maybe because it was Saturday, or the time change? I know here they only allow kids out from dusk to 8:00 PM and no teenagers. Times have changed. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Free Sunroom Estimates Find top-rated sunroom pros and get multiple free estimates today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=ygLdqBOJhSIcTwAR4NZjRwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAEvlyT4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABIYNQAAAAA= From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 1 08:48:44 2009 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 09:48:44 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] More on relays for electrical systems In-Reply-To: <008501ca5aef$f3ba8010$db2f8030$@net> References: <008501ca5aef$f3ba8010$db2f8030$@net> Message-ID: <001e01ca5b0a$cb5b4f80$6211ee80$@net> As a follow up on my question of last week regarding relays for the lighting system on a Bugeye, below is a link from my friend who originally asked the question. The article explains more about relays. http://www.rowand.net/shop/tech/AllAboutRelays.htm Ron From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 08:50:21 2009 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:50:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Halloween (non-Healey) In-Reply-To: <20091101.065738.1054.34552@mailpop02.dca.untd.com> References: <20091101.065738.1054.34552@mailpop02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <471534970911010750p22573d5cya2810ef4cc0e51af@mail.gmail.com> We similarly had a lower turnout than normal. Which is odd. I would have thought with a tighter ecomony we would have seen much more out and about. I also noted, though, that in my neighborhood there were a lot more dark houses than normal (almost every other one). My daughter and I ended up coving twice the distance of normal in order to get an adequate number of houses in. (She doesn't care so much about the candy as she does care about people seeing her in her costume). So I wonder if people weren't out because the pickings were slim Jody -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Nov 1 08:57:07 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:57:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Halloween (non-Healey) Message-ID: <20091101.075724.1236.35094@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> Jody, Without trying to carry this non-Healey thread too long, I also noticed that we were the only house in our court with the lights on (and a lighted pumpkin on the porch). Can you send a picture of the Studebaker, off list. Thanks. Doug > We similarly had a lower turnout than normal. Which is odd. I would > have thought with a tighter economy we would have seen much more > out > and about. I also noted, though, that in my neighborhood there were > a > lot more dark houses than normal (almost every other one). My > daughter > and I ended up coving twice the distance of normal in order to get > an > adequate number of houses in. (She doesn't care so much about the > candy as she does care about people seeing her in her costume). So > I > wonder if people weren't out because the pickings were slim > > Jody > > > -- > http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > 1953 Studebaker Champion > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) > 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts > on ebay! > > "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn > from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their > apparent > disinclination to do so." > --Douglas Adams > ____________________________________________________________ Top Bathroom Remodelers Get up to 4 free bathroom remodel estimates today. No obligation! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=40SaQs3P4Yhm5ltTb97djwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAOKlND8AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABIYGAAAAAA= From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Nov 1 09:09:50 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:09:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Halloween (non-Healey) In-Reply-To: <20091101.065738.1054.34552@mailpop02.dca.untd.com> References: <20091101.065738.1054.34552@mailpop02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <008c01ca5b0d$be0ac600$3a205200$@net> Well we had rain and I live up a hill that is unlit so the little ones tend to pass my house. Had only 14 kids all night and that stopped around 6pm. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dwflagg Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:57 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Halloween (non-Healey) Just an observation, but it seemed like there were far less trick or treaters out last night. Maybe because it was Saturday, or the time change? I know here they only allow kids out from dusk to 8:00 PM and no teenagers. Times have changed. Doug From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Nov 1 09:10:19 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:10:19 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Halloween (non-Healey) In-Reply-To: <20091101.065738.1054.34552@mailpop02.dca.untd.com> References: <20091101.065738.1054.34552@mailpop02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: We moved from a neighborhood where we used to get 200 kids, to a neighbourhood where we only get 20 in a good year. ( We didn't move for this reason though! :)) Imagine how much candy we had left over the first year? This year we got zero ... none ... nada. We don't have any rules like that, that I know of, but I think perhaps the swine flu played a role. I had to drive around part of the city during prime time and didn't see one kid out. I was mainly on main streets though, not deep into the neighbourhoods. > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Just an observation, but it seemed like there were far less trick or > treaters out last night. Maybe because it was Saturday, or the time > change? I know here they only allow kids out from dusk to 8:00 PM and no > teenagers. Times have changed. > > Doug From medlabinc at msn.com Sun Nov 1 09:52:48 2009 From: medlabinc at msn.com (Dick Matson) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:52:48 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Web Site Updates Message-ID: John: Your site is a great service I think. Thank you. Dick Matson / Bj8 Cashmere, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: John Sims To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:36 AM Subject: [Healeys] Web Site Updates The articles from I Erbs are now on my site under the Fuel System (Fuel Pump repairs) and Ignition System (Distributor Fault Finding) sections of the Technical Page. There are about a dozen other updates on that page, locally obtainable parts and Important Links pages that I have placed in the past 10 days or so. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com _______________________________________________ From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 11:59:08 2009 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:59:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] No Healey Content: 24 Hrs of World Air Traffic Message-ID: This is just interesting, since we are a rather international group. Note the one lone flight from Perth, I think, to the east coast of Africa. Is that JNB? Link at bottom. Bob Johnson BJ8 *Be sure to view on full screen!!** *** WORLD AIR TRAFFIC 0-24 HRS..VIEW FROM SATELLITE THIS IS MOST AMAZING.... ENJOY. You won't believe thisThe yellow dots are airplanes in the sky during a 24 hour period. Stay with the picture. You will see the light of the day moving from the east to the west, as the Earth spins on its axis. Also you will see the aircraft flow of traffic leaving the North American continent and travelling at night to arrive in the UK in the morning. Then you will see the flow changing, leaving the UK in the morning and flying to the American continent in daylight. It is a 24 hour observation of all of the large aircraft flights in the world, condensed down to about 2 minutes. From space we look like a bee hive of activity. You could tell it was summer time in the north by the sun's foot print over the planet. You could see that it didn't quite set in the extreme north and it didn't quite rise in the extreme south. I have never seen this before. We are taught about the earth's tilt and how it causes summer and winter and have had to imagine just what is going on. With this 24 hour observation of aircraft travel on the earth's surface we get to see the daylight pattern move as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1US_4uf4YE ------------------------------ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type video/x-ms-wmv which had a name of WorldAirTraffic0-24h.wmv] From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Nov 1 13:12:43 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:12:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Birthday Card Message-ID: <004201ca5b2f$ac0798d0$0416ca70$@rr.com> Hello, Healeyphiles - While in Books-A-Million today, I noted that they have a birthday card with a drawing of a blue BJ8 (dual lights) on the front. The text reads: "Brother Each birthday is a wonderful gift - a key that can unlock new doors into the future, a starting point on the roads yet to travel" Inside is the word "Enjoy" The card is about 9 inches high by 3-1/2 to 4 inches wide, is made by American Greetings, and is priced at $1.99. I know there are some of you that collect stuff like this, and there may even be some who would like to use the card for its intended purpose. There are four of them with envelopes in the rack. If there is enough interest, I can buy the stock and mail them out for the cost of the card(s) plus postage. First come, first served. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From healeydoc at verizon.net Sun Nov 1 13:20:04 2009 From: healeydoc at verizon.net (David Nock) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:20:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Wiring loom query In-Reply-To: <000001ca5ae5$0fe83fd0$2fb8bf70$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <000001ca5ae5$0fe83fd0$2fb8bf70$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <5BBDA813-E669-4862-A73F-CBFDE3A3023C@verizon.net> the harness goes across just below the hood latch. there are two hole in that panel on each side of the latch that you attach a harness clip on the front side. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Nov 1, 2009, at 3:18 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote: > I have a MkII BT7 3000..... > The grille is out of the car and the front end is generally "get-at- > able". > The wiring loom's progress around this area of the car has always > been a bit > of a mystery to me and, it seems, to previous owners, mechanics, paint > sprayers etc....plastic cable ties everywhere...all worked but was > a bit of > a mess. > So, where is it all actually meant to go? To what is the loom > clipped and > with what? > And, can one clip(?) it all in before re-installing the grille then > the > radiator? What's the order of play here? > Thanks, > Simon. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Nov 1 14:05:41 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:05:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Birthday Card Message-ID: <004c01ca5b37$11fc5980$35f50c80$@rr.com> I hear from Ed that he has them available on his justbrits.com site as well. I hadn't seen them before. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Birthday Card Hello, Healeyphiles - While in Books-A-Million today, I noted that they have a birthday card with a drawing of a blue BJ8 (dual lights) on the front. The text reads: "Brother Each birthday is a wonderful gift - a key that can unlock new doors into the future, a starting point on the roads yet to travel" Inside is the word "Enjoy" The card is about 9 inches high by 3-1/2 to 4 inches wide, is made by American Greetings, and is priced at $1.99. I know there are some of you that collect stuff like this, and there may even be some who would like to use the card for its intended purpose. There are four of them with envelopes in the rack. If there is enough interest, I can buy the stock and mail them out for the cost of the card(s) plus postage. First come, first served. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Nov 1 14:30:37 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:30:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] The Healey Birthday Card is spoken for..... Message-ID: <005401ca5b3a$8da4a990$a8edfcb0$@rr.com> From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sun Nov 1 15:32:27 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:32:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Wiring loom query In-Reply-To: <5BBDA813-E669-4862-A73F-CBFDE3A3023C@verizon.net> References: <000001ca5ae5$0fe83fd0$2fb8bf70$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> <5BBDA813-E669-4862-A73F-CBFDE3A3023C@verizon.net> Message-ID: <0D824E602A274072A0EE5F92043AE429@oscar> ..and I'm pretty sure there is a clip on the X brace for the stator tube harness..Dave (the other one) frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:20 PM To: Simon Lachlan Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wiring loom query the harness goes across just below the hood latch. there are two hole in that panel on each side of the latch that you attach a harness clip on the front side. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Nov 1, 2009, at 3:18 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote: > I have a MkII BT7 3000..... > The grille is out of the car and the front end is generally "get-at- > able". > The wiring loom's progress around this area of the car has always > been a bit > of a mystery to me and, it seems, to previous owners, mechanics, paint > sprayers etc....plastic cable ties everywhere...all worked but was > a bit of > a mess. > So, where is it all actually meant to go? To what is the loom > clipped and > with what? > And, can one clip(?) it all in before re-installing the grille then > the > radiator? What's the order of play here? > Thanks, > Simon. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Nov 1 15:43:55 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:43:55 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Birthday Card In-Reply-To: <004c01ca5b37$11fc5980$35f50c80$@rr.com> Message-ID: <20091101164355.NDL9T.478228.root@ispmxfep11-z02> Yeah, but Ed probably wants an arm and a leg for them:):):):):):):) VBG ---- BJ8 Healeys wrote: ============= I hear from Ed that he has them available on his justbrits.com site as well. I hadn't seen them before. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Birthday Card Hello, Healeyphiles - While in Books-A-Million today, I noted that they have a birthday card with a drawing of a blue BJ8 (dual lights) on the front. The text reads: "Brother Each birthday is a wonderful gift - a key that can unlock new doors into the future, a starting point on the roads yet to travel" Inside is the word "Enjoy" The card is about 9 inches high by 3-1/2 to 4 inches wide, is made by American Greetings, and is priced at $1.99. I know there are some of you that collect stuff like this, and there may even be some who would like to use the card for its intended purpose. There are four of them with envelopes in the rack. If there is enough interest, I can buy the stock and mail them out for the cost of the card(s) plus postage. First come, first served. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Sun Nov 1 17:04:36 2009 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:04:36 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! Message-ID: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA038F3F93A4@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> G'day Here is something to exercise your collective minds around. Recently fitted new brake linings to the front of the BN3/1. The car is fitted with Austin sedan front suspension and drum brakes. It is not power boosted. I previously enjoyed good brakes, but as the linings were delaminating from the shoes I thought it best to fit new linings. The shoes were fitted and adjusted without a problem. There was a slight rubbing after the drums were refitted. I did not have the linings/drums skimmed to suit. I went out yesterday and clearly had forgotten to take my proton pill as it needed the pushing power of ten blokes to pull the bloody thing up. So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums and just wait until they ride up with wear? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 17:59:53 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:59:53 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! In-Reply-To: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA038F3F93A4@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA038F3F93A4@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> Message-ID: Patrick - It might not be your shoes at all. Are your rubber hoses new or old? If old maybe one of them is delaminating inside? Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Quinn, Patrick wrote: > G'day > > Here is something to exercise your collective minds around. > > Recently fitted new brake linings to the front of the BN3/1. The car is > fitted > with Austin sedan front suspension and drum brakes. It is not power > boosted. > > I previously enjoyed good brakes, but as the linings were delaminating from > the shoes I thought it best to fit new linings. > > The shoes were fitted and adjusted without a problem. There was a slight > rubbing after the drums were refitted. I did not have the linings/drums > skimmed to suit. > > I went out yesterday and clearly had forgotten to take my proton pill as it > needed the pushing power of ten blokes to pull the bloody thing up. > > So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums > and > just wait until they ride up with wear? > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia From ktee20 at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 18:08:54 2009 From: ktee20 at gmail.com (keith taylor) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:08:54 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! In-Reply-To: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA038F3F93A4@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA038F3F93A4@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> Message-ID: <5a607cf80911011708l3a777bbbjee5f514558287a41@mail.gmail.com> Patrick You live in the perfect location to solve this problem What is the gradient on Kurragong Hill 2:1 They will be well bedded at the bottom. OR Check your tired old brake hoses. Keith Taylor BN1 BN2 100M....if I ever finish them 2009/11/2 Quinn, Patrick > G'day > > Here is something to exercise your collective minds around. > > Recently fitted new brake linings to the front of the BN3/1. The car is > fitted > with Austin sedan front suspension and drum brakes. It is not power > boosted. > > I previously enjoyed good brakes, but as the linings were delaminating from > the shoes I thought it best to fit new linings. > > The shoes were fitted and adjusted without a problem. There was a slight > rubbing after the drums were refitted. I did not have the linings/drums > skimmed to suit. > > I went out yesterday and clearly had forgotten to take my proton pill as it > needed the pushing power of ten blokes to pull the bloody thing up. > > So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums > and > just wait until they ride up with wear? > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ktee20 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From gvernau at containerhouse.com Sun Nov 1 18:15:46 2009 From: gvernau at containerhouse.com (George Vernau) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:15:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] update to BJ8 calipers leaking Message-ID: <342226.35510.qm@web406.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Recently I asked for help on caliper seals that wouldn't seal and received a bunch of good advice. I finally went through everything successfully and thought I'd pass on the results. The seals I had from Moss didn't seal and didn't look too good- sort of a scalloped look to the cut edges. I ordered a high quality kit from the Nocks along with the O rings needed to split/ reseal the calipers. When I split the calipers and was able to get a good look I found lots of corrosion and roughness in the grooves that hold the seals. I cleaned and ground those grooves smooth again, installed the new seals, and put it all back together with a little silicone brake lube. With the calipers apart it's a slick and easy job. I feel stupid for doing it the hard way in the past- those O rings are cheap. Now everything works (and stops) like new again with no leaks. Also, in fairness to Moss, despite the appearance of the caliper kit, I think they would have sealed fine if it wasn't for all the corrosion/ roughness I left in the grooves. George Vernau 1967 BJ8 From healeynut at hotmail.com Sun Nov 1 19:21:40 2009 From: healeynut at hotmail.com (Don Hardie) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:21:40 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! In-Reply-To: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA038F3F93A4@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA038F3F93A4@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> Message-ID: Sounds like you have put standard size shoes into oversize drums and you're only getting contact on a very small area of the shoes. It could take some time to wear them down to get full contact. You might have to get them relined again to the size of the drums. Don Hardie BN1 OZ > From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:04:36 +1100 > Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! > > G'day > > Here is something to exercise your collective minds around. > > Recently fitted new brake linings to the front of the BN3/1. The car is fitted > with Austin sedan front suspension and drum brakes. It is not power boosted. > > I previously enjoyed good brakes, but as the linings were delaminating from > the shoes I thought it best to fit new linings. > > The shoes were fitted and adjusted without a problem. There was a slight > rubbing after the drums were refitted. I did not have the linings/drums > skimmed to suit. > > I went out yesterday and clearly had forgotten to take my proton pill as it > needed the pushing power of ten blokes to pull the bloody thing up. > > So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums and > just wait until they ride up with wear? > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeynut at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox Find out how here http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=823454 From sales at justbrits.com Sun Nov 1 20:58:43 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:58:43 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] update to BJ8 calipers leaking In-Reply-To: <342226.35510.qm@web406.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <342226.35510.qm@web406.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AEE58F3.1030604@justbrits.com> << ...put it all back together... >> WHERE did you get the NEW bolts, George ?? Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From richard.ewald at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 22:16:59 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:16:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] OT: A little bird told me Message-ID: That our list's very own curmudgeon, Ed at Just Brits, is having a birthday today. I don't know how old he is, but rumor has it that he is just 1 year older than dirt. Happy birthday Ed. Rick From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 2 01:30:21 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:30:21 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! In-Reply-To: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA038F3F93A4@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA038F3F93A4@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> Message-ID: <4AEE989D.6000707@chello.nl> Leading and trailing shoe in the wrong order? Kees Oudesluijs NL Quinn, Patrick schreef: > G'day > > Here is something to exercise your collective minds around. > > Recently fitted new brake linings to the front of the BN3/1. The car is fitted > with Austin sedan front suspension and drum brakes. It is not power boosted. > > I previously enjoyed good brakes, but as the linings were delaminating from > the shoes I thought it best to fit new linings. > > The shoes were fitted and adjusted without a problem. There was a slight > rubbing after the drums were refitted. I did not have the linings/drums > skimmed to suit. > > I went out yesterday and clearly had forgotten to take my proton pill as it > needed the pushing power of ten blokes to pull the bloody thing up. > > So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums and > just wait until they ride up with wear? > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.43/2474 - Release Date: 11/01/09 07:38:00 From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 2 05:48:27 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 6:48:27 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091102064827.WA1MM.492053.root@ispmxfep13-z02> What you said seems contradictory to me. If the shoes are too small for the drums, how will they ever fit? ---- Don Hardie wrote: ============= Sounds like you have put standard size shoes into oversize drums and you're only getting contact on a very small area of the shoes. It could take some time to wear them down to get full contact. You might have to get them relined again to the size of the drums. Don Hardie BN1 OZ > From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:04:36 +1100 > Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! > > G'day > > Here is something to exercise your collective minds around. > > Recently fitted new brake linings to the front of the BN3/1. The car is fitted > with Austin sedan front suspension and drum brakes. It is not power boosted. > > I previously enjoyed good brakes, but as the linings were delaminating from > the shoes I thought it best to fit new linings. > > The shoes were fitted and adjusted without a problem. There was a slight > rubbing after the drums were refitted. I did not have the linings/drums > skimmed to suit. > > I went out yesterday and clearly had forgotten to take my proton pill as it > needed the pushing power of ten blokes to pull the bloody thing up. > > So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums and > just wait until they ride up with wear? > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeynut at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox Find out how here http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=823454 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From gvernau at containerhouse.com Mon Nov 2 09:52:02 2009 From: gvernau at containerhouse.com (George Vernau) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:52:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] update to BJ8 calipers leaking Message-ID: <975963.29951.qm@web406.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> << ...put it all back together... WHERE did you get the NEW bolts, George ?? >> Ed- I just used the old ones, added thread locker, and torqued them to 40 & 60 ft lbs. George Vernau From sales at justbrits.com Mon Nov 2 10:53:31 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:53:31 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] OT: A little bird told me In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AEF1C9B.1030007@justbrits.com> <> Thanks Rick, but you got it wrong !! Younger !!! Made it (barely) to 39 again. LOL Ed From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Nov 2 12:49:49 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:49:49 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] OT: A little bird told me In-Reply-To: <4AEF1C9B.1030007@justbrits.com> References: <4AEF1C9B.1030007@justbrits.com> Message-ID: So would that be the 39th anniversary of your 39th birthday? rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:53, "Sales at \" Just Brits \"" wrote: > < older than dirt.>> > > Thanks Rick, but you got it wrong !! Younger !!! > Made it (barely) to 39 again. LOL > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Nov 2 14:48:32 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:48:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! In-Reply-To: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA038F3F93A4@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> Message-ID: <953735.48646.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Waiting tor it just to "ride up with wear" always seemed to work for Mr. Lucas on "Are You Being Served?" Assuming you didn't touch the wheel cylinders and had good brakes before, I'd check to see if you put the shoes in correctly, check for any grease or brake fluid contamination on the linings and drums, and if everything is ok, would skim the shoes to match the drums. Finally you should bed the shoes as described here: http://planetminis.com/f14/ferodo-brake-shoes-72536.html Alternatively you could try this: http://www.da7c.co.uk/technical_torque_articles/bedding_in_new_brake_shoes.ht m Good luck, Rick --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Quinn, Patrick wrote: From: Quinn, Patrick Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! To: "Healeys" Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 7:04 PM So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums and just wait until they ride up with wear? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Mon Nov 2 17:35:23 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:35:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Painter in Northern California Message-ID: Can some one recommend a painter in the Northern California area to do my BJ8? Almost rust free with no body work. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Mon Nov 2 20:06:26 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:06:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] update to BJ8 calipers leaking In-Reply-To: <975963.29951.qm@web406.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <975963.29951.qm@web406.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AEF9E32.500@comcast.net> << I just used the old ones, added thread locker, and torqued them to 40 & 60 ft lbs. >> You realize the Torque Values HAVE changed, right George ?? Only the Lord knows what would be a 'correct' figure to use. That IS why [can't recall which] Girling/Lockheed came out with a Service Bulletin which STATED to ONLY use NEW bolts when splitting calipers. Ed From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 03:21:25 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:21:25 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Painter in Northern California In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Richard - Norm and David Nock do Austin Healeys all day long. Some would argue they are one of the world's foremost experts on AH's, especially in the parts area. They know how to work with their local paint guy to get the job done correctly - it's a little more complicated with Austin Healeys because of the bolted fenders and beading. http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/ and a sample of their work: http://seelodi.groupee.net/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5501031522/m/4401030722 Also in Stockton, so their overheads are a little lower than being in the Bay Area.... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Richard Kahn wrote: > Can some one recommend a painter in the Northern California area to do my > BJ8? > Almost rust free with no body work. From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 07:17:25 2009 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:17:25 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Message-ID: <48720d20911030617r34d6b06fye0d1c173f8a1577d@mail.gmail.com> I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, rodents. The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry softener in the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, and didn't smell. I never heard of this before. Has anyone? Jack From s.hutchings at rogers.com Tue Nov 3 08:16:01 2009 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:16:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Message-ID: I've heard of using those same sheets of laundry softener, or "Bounce", to control spiders in sailboats. I haven't tried it myself, but I plan to. It would be great if it works, because nobody wants a sports car, or a sail boat, to smell of mothballs! Stephen, BJ8 From rnsdavies at verizon.net Tue Nov 3 08:54:36 2009 From: rnsdavies at verizon.net (redlands ron davies) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:54:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <48720d20911030617r34d6b06fye0d1c173f8a1577d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <784393.10136.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Jack, I had heard that also and gave it a try. Rodents ate the leather seats in my Bugeye. They were putting pecan nuts in the cars as well. I removed the pecan tree, as it was a nuisance anyway, and put dryer sheets in all of my cars. So far, no more rodents and no more pecan shells in the cars. That has been two or three years. I'm just not positive that it is the dryer sheets or getting rid of their food source. I also put out rodent bait. I say give it a try. Ron AN5-BN2-BN2mod-BJ8 --- On Tue, 11/3/09, Jack Feldman wrote: From: Jack Feldman Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage To: healeys at autox.team.net, mgs at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 6:17 AM I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, rodents. The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry softener in the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, and didn't smell. I never heard of this before. Has anyone? Jack Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as rnsdavies at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive From amalin at mac.com Tue Nov 3 09:24:38 2009 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:24:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <48720d20911030617r34d6b06fye0d1c173f8a1577d@mail.gmail.com> References: <48720d20911030617r34d6b06fye0d1c173f8a1577d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9138A6E7-A4F6-43A1-8809-439B8EC93D56@mac.com> Jack, I would put more trust in several doses of rodent poison strategically placed in, under, and around the car and occasionally refresh the "treats". Al Malin Tricarb On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Jack Feldman wrote: > I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, > rodents. > > The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry > softener in > the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than > mothballs, > and didn't smell. > > I never heard of this before. Has anyone? > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as amalin at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Awgertoo at aol.com Tue Nov 3 09:25:34 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:25:34 EST Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Message-ID: A lot depends on where we store our cars and what the surroundings are like. Before we sold our farm I had a small unheated building in which I kept my 100 for the winter--wrapped in a breathable cover to keep out moisture, etc and I found definite evidence (droppings, chewed up newspaper, etc) that the critters were definitely looking for warm places to lay their heads for the winter, so I used mothballs, etc. Now I have the luxury of keeping my car in a heated garage without having to cover it, so I do not plan to use anything. BTW I live in MD and we have plenty of moderate winter days here so I always try to take the car for a ride at least once a month to get things warmed up, etc, just so long as the salt has been washed off the streets from the last storm if any. Best--Michael Oritt From stephen.white at wku.edu Tue Nov 3 09:36:41 2009 From: stephen.white at wku.edu (stephen white) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:36:41 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF05C19.8050405@wku.edu> I once stored a boat on a farm for the winter and the cows ate all the rubber fittings and handles off the trailer. We found out about it because the farmer called to say one of his cows was injured because it had started on the tires. Stephen Hutchings wrote: > I've heard of using those same sheets of laundry softener, or > "Bounce", to control spiders in sailboats. I haven't tried it myself, > but I plan to. > It would be great if it works, because nobody wants a sports car, or a > sail boat, to smell of mothballs! > > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as stephen.white at wku.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive From amalin at mac.com Tue Nov 3 09:28:15 2009 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:28:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <48720d20911030617r34d6b06fye0d1c173f8a1577d@mail.gmail.com> References: <48720d20911030617r34d6b06fye0d1c173f8a1577d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1E861457-A728-4201-9E7B-EF0CF53A98E9@mac.com> Overheard this conversation: "Did you ever smell moth balls?" "Yeah." "How did you get between it's legs?" With apologies, Al Malin Tricarb On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Jack Feldman wrote: > I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, > rodents. > > The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry > softener in > the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than > mothballs, > and didn't smell. > > I never heard of this before. Has anyone? > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as amalin at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Nov 3 10:27:02 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:27:02 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <4AF05C19.8050405@wku.edu> References: Message-ID: The cow got tired out? ;) > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:36:41 -0600 > > I once stored a boat on a farm for the winter and the cows ate all the > rubber fittings and handles off the trailer. We found out about it > because the farmer called to say one of his cows was injured because it > had started on the tires. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Nov 3 10:53:07 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:53:07 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My musings on rodents. Baited traps attract mice? Do the poisons also attract mice? We're not looking to attract them are we? And, if you poison them, then you will likely have dead mice curled up in some recess in your garage, and you'll be wondering what the smell is. My rule of thumb is that, unless I see evidence of mice being present, I don't put food out for them. If there is evidence of their presence, I bait a trap and kill and dispose of it. I then bait another trap and leave it for a week, in case there were 2, and then remove it. I don't know if that's wise or not ... but, that's the way I do it. What about heat? Are rodents more likely to be attracted to a warm garage over an unheated garage. I'm guessing "not much". I have had a couple of experiences with rodents in the garage, but never with a car that is on jack stands and never where moth balls were present. ( The worst damage that I've suffered is that something ate the strings off the tags for the wiring harness for my Sprite. ) I'm wondering if the jack stands are impossible for them to climb. The 100 will be on the hoist, so I'll use bounce sheets in it. I'm figuring that mice can't climb up there, but I'll be careful anyway. Robert D. From jimf at frakes-eng.com Tue Nov 3 11:20:31 2009 From: jimf at frakes-eng.com (Frakes, Jim) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:20:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <784393.10136.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <48720d20911030617r34d6b06fye0d1c173f8a1577d@mail.gmail.com> <784393.10136.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, I can't say it has not worked, as I see no damage in my Nasty 100 with Bounce sheets in it. However, I too put out some bad bait for the rodents and find a demised one every once in a while. Other items they have eaten if there is cloth of any kind around. Jim -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of redlands ron davies Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:55 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net; mgs at autox.team.net; Jack Feldman Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Jack, I had heard that also and gave it a try. Rodents ate the leather seats in my Bugeye. They were putting pecan nuts in the cars as well. I removed the pecan tree, as it was a nuisance anyway, and put dryer sheets in all of my cars. So far, no more rodents and no more pecan shells in the cars. That has been two or three years. I'm just not positive that it is the dryer sheets or getting rid of their food source. I also put out rodent bait. I say give it a try. Ron AN5-BN2-BN2mod-BJ8 --- On Tue, 11/3/09, Jack Feldman wrote: From: Jack Feldman Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage To: healeys at autox.team.net, mgs at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 6:17 AM I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, rodents. The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry softener in the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, and didn't smell. I never heard of this before. Has anyone? 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From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Tue Nov 3 12:47:07 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:47:07 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Steering issues Message-ID: <000901ca5cbe$6e499c60$4adcd520$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> My car is a 3000, MkII BT7. I have the car on blocks, nose up, wheels on or off, grille out - everything accessible. So, the front wheels do not appear to be anything like parallel. I know that the car is hardly in the right posture for this to be properly tested, but I'd like to acquaint myself with the dos and donts in this area before I get in too much of a panic. I don't find any of my manuals to be very helpful. Adjustment appears to be done via the cross-tube after loosening the lock nuts which are RHT & LHT at either end. OK so far? I take the cross tube to be the only large bar/rod which connects the two steering area (other than the anti roll bar of course). I've tried loosening off the nuts at either end of this bar with no luck at all. I've not applied too much torque as it seems to be an area where things could bend! The nuts don't appear to be separate from the rod; they appear to be part of it, unless they're very neatly finished off. Am I missing the point here? It all seems so tight and generally immovable that I don't see how it can be done...hence the feeling that I'm trying too hard to do the wrong thing. Any suggestions? I'm not convinced that I want to do the final adjustments myself, not having the correct equipment, but I'd like to a) understand the issues and b) have it ready/loose enough for the local tyre and wheel place to be able to get near it.... Simon From healeyray at yahoo.com Tue Nov 3 12:50:09 2009 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:50:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] another weird request Message-ID: <262946.99257.qm@web111411.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Anyone on the list with a wrecked 100 windshield frame ?? I need a six inch length of the top horizontal fame to repair one that I have. Ray Juncal From HealeyHundred at comcast.net Tue Nov 3 12:57:01 2009 From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net (Richard Gordon) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:57:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Message-ID: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> The problem with poisons are, if you use poison, then you are putting that poison into the eco system. If the mouse isn't eaten by another animal (say a hawk or an eagle) which would also likely die, then the poison will make it into the ground. The more you put out there, the more it is likely to come back to haunt you. Kill them if you have to, but I wouldn't recommend using poison. Richard From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Nov 3 14:21:30 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:21:30 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> References: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> Message-ID: Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Nov 3 14:29:50 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:29:50 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Steering issues In-Reply-To: <000901ca5cbe$6e499c60$4adcd520$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <000901ca5cbe$6e499c60$4adcd520$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <4AF0A0CE.3090200@chello.nl> Simon, You cannot check the wheel alignment with the wheels of the floor. The car has to be on its 4 wheels with the correct tire pressures, fully settled with ca. 75 kg on each seat (rolled back and forward, bounced up and down) on a horizontal and level surface before you can do any meaningfull measurements. Soak the nuts in penetrant oil for a while, grip the cross tube with a pipe wrench and loosen the nuts, they are not part of the tube. Check for left hand and right hand thread. Turning the tube will move the wheels pointing both inward or both outward at the same time. Make sure that the steering wheel is positioned in the middle position when both front wheels are in the straight ahead position and check that the wheels can be turned the same amount each way. Best left to the pro's though, as they have the right equipment. Kees Oudesluijs NL Simon Lachlan schreef: > My car is a 3000, MkII BT7. > I have the car on blocks, nose up, wheels on or off, grille out - everything > accessible. > So, the front wheels do not appear to be anything like parallel. I know that > the car is hardly in the right posture for this to be properly tested, but > I'd like to acquaint myself with the dos and donts in this area before I get > in too much of a panic. > I don't find any of my manuals to be very helpful. Adjustment appears to be > done via the cross-tube after loosening the lock nuts which are RHT & LHT at > either end. OK so far? I take the cross tube to be the only large bar/rod > which connects the two steering area (other than the anti roll bar of > course). I've tried loosening off the nuts at either end of this bar with no > luck at all. I've not applied too much torque as it seems to be an area > where things could bend! The nuts don't appear to be separate from the rod; > they appear to be part of it, unless they're very neatly finished off. Am I > missing the point here? > It all seems so tight and generally immovable that I don't see how it can be > done...hence the feeling that I'm trying too hard to do the wrong thing. > Any suggestions? I'm not convinced that I want to do the final adjustments > myself, not having the correct equipment, but I'd like to a) understand the > issues and b) have it ready/loose enough for the local tyre and wheel place > to be able to get near it.... > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.47/2478 - Release Date: 11/03/09 07:36:00 From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 14:34:43 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:34:43 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] rust repair begins Message-ID: <173126440911031334n58767bc7y34360e0ea2a25311@mail.gmail.com> hello all, After only 35 years I am about to embark on getting the rust repaired on my car. The auto shop teacher at school has proposed letting him do the repairs. he has extensive experience with roadsters and race cars. I sent him a link to kilmartin's exploded view of chassis and body panel sto acquaint him with the car. he has seen it many times... So my questions... We are going to pull the engine/tranny to detail them and the engine compartment. is it better to do the fenders and inner wings with the engine in or out? I also need to repair/replace the door striker panels and possibly a rocker panel plus whatever we find when we get into it. Should the fender bottoms and rear dog legs be repairs on the car or should they be removed? I will check the archives for info on engine paint info, but if someone wanted to chime in I'd be Ok with that :) What else do I need to look out for? Also, I want to replace my BT7 clutch assembly with a BJ series, what do I need? I have a lightened flywheel on my car now. I believe I need to replace it, or does someone have a pattern for re-drilling it to accept the BJ parts? There a couple of NOS front fenders on EBAY for 1K delivered. Is it beter to repair known fitting parts or just go with new? lastly, does anyone have the restorers guide I could borrow? I've seen them for over $160.00 on the net.... I live in Portland, Oregon, so If anyone wants to stop by and lend a hand, I'll buy the beer and a meal. Although the beer will have to wait until after we leave school grounds.... I am looking for a nice steetable car, not a show car. I only paid $500.00 for the car, so its hard to recalibrate my thinking about how much these toys are worth...I just want to drive a nice looking car to match how well it runs. -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR the car will be located in Milwaukie, OR if you want to help out From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 3 14:57:29 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:57:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Painter in Northern California Message-ID: I would suggest the Nock's as well. Being a former AH restoration guy, they always require some body work, unless one wants a wavey car. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 15:03:22 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:03:22 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: References: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> Message-ID: <173126440911031403t6c6abf6ci81ee276d5dc66de0@mail.gmail.com> stewart little On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, wrote: > Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the > exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they > really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 15:20:49 2009 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:20:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: References: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> Message-ID: <471534970911031420k57191172u33bb94ab53c74f20@mail.gmail.com> How about investing in a good mouser? :) Put a nice little kitty bed in front of your car, add cat and presto. No more mice. And if the cat's any good it'll be self feeding. (*grin*) Jody -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 3 15:48:12 2009 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:48:12 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> References: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94D92@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> G'day Richard I agree. We live on what use to be a small farm and the cars are kept in what used to be a machinery/milking shed. Mice were a problem and it was always easy to see where they had been by their droppings. A few years back one of the kids yelled out to his mother not go into the barn. I went to investigate and curled up on a workbench was a large diamond python that had a pronounced bulge along its body. If you didn't know, a diamond python is a harmless snake, unless of course you are a mouse. Since then we have encouraged the python to stay by placing the occasional piece of snake food out for it to eat. We know it's still about by its droppings which are rather big. Just last Sunday I saw a sizeable Blue Tongue Lizard coming out of where we keep the Healey Duncan. Blue Tongues are wonderful for keeping pests down in and around the garden including slugs, snails, spiders and insects. They also like to pinch the dog food. Thankfully the venomous black and brown snakes stay outside where they belong with the spiders. However we do have both ring-tail and brush-tail possums that like to sleep in amongst the car parts. The brush-tail is the largest at about the size of a domestic cat and being protected I leave them alone. They can be a pest, especially when they get in the house and rip curtains to shreds. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Gordon Sent: Wednesday, 4 November 2009 6:57 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage The problem with poisons are, if you use poison, then you are putting that poison into the eco system. If the mouse isn't eaten by another animal (say a hawk or an eagle) which would also likely die, then the poison will make it into the ground. The more you put out there, the more it is likely to come back to haunt you. Kill them if you have to, but I wouldn't recommend using poison. Richard ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 3 15:56:13 2009 From: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com (Don Day) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:56:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] torque spec.exhaust to block Message-ID: <194180.24022.qm@web53808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Good Evening List Does anyone have the torque spec. for my brass nuts/steel nuts attaching the exhaust manifold and the intake manifold to the head of my BJ-8.Does anyone have a list of all the torque specs of the nuts and bolts for our cars? Thanks Don From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Nov 3 17:27:00 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:27:00 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <471534970911031420k57191172u33bb94ab53c74f20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091103182700.NAN4Y.530171.root@ispmxfep11-z02> Just make sure the cat can't get inside the car. My friends Healey seat backs have claw marks from a cat that just wanted to scratch. ---- Jody Kerr wrote: ============= How about investing in a good mouser? :) Put a nice little kitty bed in front of your car, add cat and presto. No more mice. And if the cat's any good it'll be self feeding. (*grin*) Jody -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Nov 3 17:29:30 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:29:30 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94D92@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> Message-ID: <20091103182930.T3KW5.530234.root@ispmxfep11-z02> In my previous garage (separate from the house), there lived about 8 black and brown snakes. I never bothered them and they seemed to stay full---hopefully of mice. ---- "Quinn wrote: ============= G'day Richard I agree. We live on what use to be a small farm and the cars are kept in what used to be a machinery/milking shed. Mice were a problem and it was always easy to see where they had been by their droppings. A few years back one of the kids yelled out to his mother not go into the barn. I went to investigate and curled up on a workbench was a large diamond python that had a pronounced bulge along its body. If you didn't know, a diamond python is a harmless snake, unless of course you are a mouse. Since then we have encouraged the python to stay by placing the occasional piece of snake food out for it to eat. We know it's still about by its droppings which are rather big. Just last Sunday I saw a sizeable Blue Tongue Lizard coming out of where we keep the Healey Duncan. Blue Tongues are wonderful for keeping pests down in and around the garden including slugs, snails, spiders and insects. They also like to pinch the dog food. Thankfully the venomous black and brown snakes stay outside where they belong with the spiders. However we do have both ring-tail and brush-tail possums that like to sleep in amongst the car parts. The brush-tail is the largest at about the size of a domestic cat and being protected I leave them alone. They can be a pest, especially when they get in the house and rip curtains to shreds. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Gordon Sent: Wednesday, 4 November 2009 6:57 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage The problem with poisons are, if you use poison, then you are putting that poison into the eco system. If the mouse isn't eaten by another animal (say a hawk or an eagle) which would also likely die, then the poison will make it into the ground. The more you put out there, the more it is likely to come back to haunt you. Kill them if you have to, but I wouldn't recommend using poison. Richard ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 18:09:01 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:09:01 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94D92@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> References: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94D92@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> Message-ID: Patrick - For something like your possum problem in the US you can hire a pistol packin' hirsute midget varmint hunter named Yosemite Sam. He's a bit noisy and tends to shoot up the place, but he's got a world class work ethic which is hard to find these days. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Quinn, Patrick wrote: > G'day Richard > > I agree. We live on what use to be a small farm and the cars are kept in > what > used to be a machinery/milking shed. Mice were a problem and it was always > easy to see where they had been by their droppings. > > A few years back one of the kids yelled out to his mother not go into the > barn. I went to investigate and curled up on a workbench was a large > diamond > python that had a pronounced bulge along its body. If you didn't know, a > diamond python is a harmless snake, unless of course you are a mouse. Since > then we have encouraged the python to stay by placing the occasional piece > of > snake food out for it to eat. We know it's still about by its droppings > which > are rather big. > > Just last Sunday I saw a sizeable Blue Tongue Lizard coming out of where we > keep the Healey Duncan. Blue Tongues are wonderful for keeping pests down > in > and around the garden including slugs, snails, spiders and insects. They > also > like to pinch the dog food. > > Thankfully the venomous black and brown snakes stay outside where they > belong > with the spiders. > > However we do have both ring-tail and brush-tail possums that like to sleep > in > amongst the car parts. The brush-tail is the largest at about the size of a > domestic cat and being protected I leave them alone. They can be a pest, > especially when they get in the house and rip curtains to shreds. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 18:20:42 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:20:42 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] torque spec.exhaust to block In-Reply-To: <194180.24022.qm@web53808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <194180.24022.qm@web53808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Don - Congratulations of having a set of brass nuts. They are clearly an indication that if I was on Omaha beach I'd want you to be the guy in my platoon with the BAR. By design the brass nuts on the manifold are essentially self locking (when new), this is why it is always recommended that when you take these nuts off, you replace them with new ones. As brass they can't take that much torque anyway. The manifold to head nuts should be torqued quite lightly, only about 25 - 30 ft lbs. If you tighten them too much, you can warp the manifold and pinch the gasket and either get intake leaks or exhaust leaks. The nuts are larger so they will be very good at keeping in place over time. The exhaust to downpipe nuts can be torqued a little tighter, maximum 35-40 ft lbs. Again, the downpipe gasket is a thick copper coated gasket, so you don't want to overtighten and pinch the gasket, otherwise you'll get leaks over time. Only on this particular gasket I like to use Permatex anti-seize on both surfaces to keep the gasket from sticking to either surface over time. Best, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Don Day wrote: > Good Evening List > Does anyone have the torque spec. for my brass nuts/steel nuts attaching > the exhaust manifold and the intake manifold to the head of my BJ-8.Does > anyone have a list of all the torque specs of the nuts and bolts for our > cars? > Thanks Don > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 18:31:52 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:31:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] battery I checked the archive Message-ID: <173126440911031731s620ad0c6re697aebd7ff97577@mail.gmail.com> > 59 BT7 neg ground 3000 >> > I followed the archive thread and found what looks like a pos ground battery due to location of terminals. can someone tell me the model of the right battery. Such as a 27F or ??/ I need one tonight. Can't see what my old one is Thanks Ira > I have the car on blocks, nose up, wheels on or off, grille out - >> everything >> accessible. >> So, the front wheels do not appear to be anything like parallel. I know >> that >> the car is hardly in the right posture for this to be properly tested, but >> I'd like to acquaint myself with the dos and donts in this area before I >> get >> in too much of a panic. >> I don't find any of my manuals to be very helpful. Adjustment appears to >> be >> done via the cross-tube after loosening the lock nuts which are RHT & LHT >> at >> either end. OK so far? I take the cross tube to be the only large bar/rod >> which connects the two steering area (other than the anti roll bar of >> course). I've tried loosening off the nuts at either end of this bar with >> no >> luck at all. I've not applied too much torque as it seems to be an area >> where things could bend! The nuts don't appear to be separate from the >> rod; >> they appear to be part of it, unless they're very neatly finished off. Am >> I >> missing the point here? >> It all seems so tight and generally immovable that I don't see how it can >> be >> done...hence the feeling that I'm trying too hard to do the wrong thing. >> Any suggestions? I'm not convinced that I want to do the final adjustments >> myself, not having the correct equipment, but I'd like to a) understand >> the >> issues and b) have it ready/loose enough for the local tyre and wheel >> place >> to be able to get near it.... >> Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl >> >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: >> 270.14.47/2478 - Release Date: 11/03/09 07:36:00 >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 18:33:33 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:33:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] rust repair begins In-Reply-To: <8rl1f5pck7cqgc2tcr037893edi7vut1s8@4ax.com> References: <173126440911031334n58767bc7y34360e0ea2a25311@mail.gmail.com> <8rl1f5pck7cqgc2tcr037893edi7vut1s8@4ax.com> Message-ID: <173126440911031733q390691f8gae1f18f314c44914@mail.gmail.com> I actually found one by gary and roger moment doe 40.00, but others were selling it for north of 150.00 !! On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Roland Wilhelmy wrote: > Ira- > > What is the official name of this book/guide? $160 seems way too > expensive for any book I know about (and have). If I've got one (or > more) I'll try to be of help. > > -Roland > > On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:34:43 -0800, you wrote: > > ::lastly, does anyone have the restorers guide I could borrow? I've seen > them > ::for over $160.00 on the net.... > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 18:56:44 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:56:44 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <20091103182700.NAN4Y.530171.root@ispmxfep11-z02> References: <471534970911031420k57191172u33bb94ab53c74f20@mail.gmail.com> <20091103182700.NAN4Y.530171.root@ispmxfep11-z02> Message-ID: <173126440911031756y4bac5ec0n5aa849eb85eec3e7@mail.gmail.com> RATHER have mice than cats. Actually I bought a can of fox poop to use to keep squirrels out of my roof overhang area. bet it would work on mice.... On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > Just make sure the cat can't get inside the car. My friends Healey seat > backs have claw marks from a cat that just wanted to scratch. > > > ---- Jody Kerr wrote: > > ============= > How about investing in a good mouser? :) > > Put a nice little kitty bed in front of your car, add cat and presto. > No more mice. And if the cat's any good it'll be self feeding. > (*grin*) > > Jody > -- > http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > 1953 Studebaker Champion > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) > 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on > ebay! > > "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn > from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent > disinclination to do so." > --Douglas Adams > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 3 19:11:00 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:11:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage References: <48720d20911030617r34d6b06fye0d1c173f8a1577d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002a01ca5cf4$0e15b640$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> I have been storing my MGB-GT at the old Studebaker car plant for many years with moth balls. The care taker informed me last time that I restoked my moth balls that most of the owners were using dryer sheets cause the smell of the moth balls lingers for a long time in the carpet and seats after the car is out of storage. The dryer sheets repel the rodents and give the car a much more pleasant smell after storage. Also it is advised not to put any scented item directly on carpet ,seats dashes etc. cause the smell inbeds itself in the material . Use a cup or something similar. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Feldman" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:17 AM Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage >I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, rodents. > > The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry softener in > the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, > and didn't smell. > > I never heard of this before. Has anyone? > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 3 19:27:06 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:27:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] torque spec.exhaust to block References: <194180.24022.qm@web53808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003d01ca5cf6$4e0aeed0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> That anti seize has a really funky smell when its at room temp. What does it smell like when it gets up to exhaust temp. and how can you tell if its properties remain the same after its heated to that degree? Does it even stay in place or burn off? Mark > > The exhaust to downpipe nuts can be torqued a little tighter, maximum > 35-40 > ft lbs. Again, the downpipe gasket is a thick copper coated gasket, so > you > don't want to overtighten and pinch the gasket, otherwise you'll get leaks > over time. Only on this particular gasket I like to use Permatex > anti-seize > on both surfaces to keep the gasket from sticking to either surface over > time. > > Best, > > Alan > > '52 A90 From ah3000me at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 19:39:35 2009 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:39:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: References: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> Message-ID: I heard a story about one that got shot out of the tailpipe, bounced off the back wall, and ran like heck afterwards... It's supposed to be true. - Tom On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:21 PM, wrote: > Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the > exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they > really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 19:50:09 2009 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:50:09 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers Message-ID: <48720d20911031850h46335f0u6418cf9d4e8efaeb@mail.gmail.com> Patrick signs off that the lives in Sydney, yet claims pythons, possums, Lizards as being common. I thought perhaps he had seen to many episodes of *Are You Being Served*. Then I realized that I live in Downers Grove, about 10 miles of urban sprawl from Chicago. We have deer, foxes, coyotes, possums, skunks, and red tailed hawks. There are peregrine falcons in Chicago. They were introduced to keep the pidgeon populations in check. We used to have rabbits and feral cats, but I suspect the foxes and coyotes took care of them. Jack From dwflagg at juno.com Tue Nov 3 20:06:39 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:06:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Message-ID: <20091103.190657.1238.35954@mailpop10.dca.untd.com> Actually, you can use cat hair (they tend to shed a lot!!). We use it in our attic and have not seen any mice since. > RATHER have mice than cats. > Actually I bought a can of fox poop to use to keep squirrels out of > my roof > overhang area. bet it would work on mice.... > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Tom Felts > wrote: > > > Just make sure the cat can't get inside the car. My friends > Healey seat > > backs have claw marks from a cat that just wanted to scratch. > > > > > > ---- Jody Kerr wrote: > > > > ============= > > How about investing in a good mouser? :) > > > > Put a nice little kitty bed in front of your car, add cat and > presto. > > No more mice. And if the cat's any good it'll be self feeding. > > (*grin*) > > > > Jody > > -- > > http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > > 1953 Studebaker Champion > > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) > > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) > > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) > > 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) > > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling > parts on > > ebay! > > > > "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to > learn > > from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their > apparent > > disinclination to do so." > > --Douglas Adams > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dwflagg at juno.com > > ww.team.net/archive > ____________________________________________________________ Criminal Justice Degrees Start your criminal justice career. Earn your degree 100% online! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=afHhh8U6zMCaFTb4ziulPAAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAMUgID8AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQKAAAAAA= From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 3 21:03:18 2009 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:03:18 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers In-Reply-To: <48720d20911031850h46335f0u6418cf9d4e8efaeb@mail.gmail.com> References: <48720d20911031850h46335f0u6418cf9d4e8efaeb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94D96@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> Greetings Jack I live in the mountains about 90mins drive from the coast and Sydney. If I were to sign off Blue Mountains, Australia - besides covering an area much bigger than Sydney, most of you blokes wouldn't have a clue where I was talking about. As far as the animals! Yes I mean in Sydney. The possum is an Australian marsupial and should not be likened with North American version and of all the animals have adapted to living closely with mankind. Possums, snakes, lizards and foxes etc are all to be found within walking distance of the Sydney Central Business District, but of course are more prevalent the further away you are. In my previous home just 15 minutes drive north of Sydney we had all sorts of wildlife living in the roof, but possums were the most prevalent. They also make a loud noise when walking across the ceiling and roof. Many times my wife thinks it's an intruder when its' a possum. Possums may look cute and cuddly, but can be a pest. At the other end of the scale the Blue Tongue Lizard are the most adaptable to living close to humans and make good pets. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, New South Wales, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jack Feldman Sent: Wednesday, 4 November 2009 1:50 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers Patrick signs off that the lives in Sydney, yet claims pythons, possums, Lizards as being common. I thought perhaps he had seen to many episodes of *Are You Being Served*. Then I realized that I live in Downers Grove, about 10 miles of urban sprawl from Chicago. We have deer, foxes, coyotes, possums, skunks, and red tailed hawks. There are peregrine falcons in Chicago. They were introduced to keep the pidgeon populations in check. We used to have rabbits and feral cats, but I suspect the foxes and coyotes took care of them. Jack ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From healeyray at yahoo.com Tue Nov 3 21:19:15 2009 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:19:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94D92@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> Message-ID: <151703.15948.qm@web111402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Geeze Patrick you live in a real zoo. Ray --- On Tue, 11/3/09, Quinn, Patrick wrote: From: Quinn, Patrick Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage To: "'Richard Gordon'" , "healeys at autox.team.net" Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 2:48 PM G'day Richard I agree. We live on what use to be a small farm and the cars are kept in what used to be a machinery/milking shed. Mice were a problem and it was always easy to see where they had been by their droppings. A few years back one of the kids yelled out to his mother not go into the barn. I went to investigate and curled up on a workbench was a large diamond python that had a pronounced bulge along its body. If you didn't know, a diamond python is a harmless snake, unless of course you are a mouse. Since then we have encouraged the python to stay by placing the occasional piece of snake food out for it to eat. We know it's still about by its droppings which are rather big. Just last Sunday I saw a sizeable Blue Tongue Lizard coming out of where we keep the Healey Duncan. Blue Tongues are wonderful for keeping pests down in and around the garden including slugs, snails, spiders and insects. They also like to pinch the dog food. Thankfully the venomous black and brown snakes stay outside where they belong with the spiders. However we do have both ring-tail and brush-tail possums that like to sleep in amongst the car parts. The brush-tail is the largest at about the size of a domestic cat and being protected I leave them alone. They can be a pest, especially when they get in the house and rip curtains to shreds. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 22:26:48 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:26:48 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] torque spec.exhaust to block In-Reply-To: <003d01ca5cf6$4e0aeed0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <194180.24022.qm@web53808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <003d01ca5cf6$4e0aeed0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: Mark - Permatex Anti-seize is the best thing ever invented. I think it's rated to 1,900 degrees. It never goes away and keeps the rust off, permanently. I always use it on all bolts and nuts when assembling. When I worked at The Geysers Geothermal Energy plant in N. California back in 1985, we used the stuff to keep pipe bolts and nuts from corroding together - the superheated steam we piped from a couple thousand feet down has all sorts of sulfur, Hydrocloric, Sulfuric, and other nasty corrosive acids which would reduce steel to rust in a couple of weeks. Whenever we used that stuff, we NEVER had a problem with disassembly. Smell is there for about 5 minutes after start-up, then dissappears. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > That anti seize has a really funky smell when its at room temp. What does > it smell like > when it gets up to exhaust temp. and how can you tell if its properties > remain > the same after its heated to that degree? Does it even stay in place or > burn off? > > Mark > > > > >> The exhaust to downpipe nuts can be torqued a little tighter, maximum >> 35-40 >> ft lbs. Again, the downpipe gasket is a thick copper coated gasket, so >> you >> don't want to overtighten and pinch the gasket, otherwise you'll get leaks >> over time. Only on this particular gasket I like to use Permatex >> anti-seize >> on both surfaces to keep the gasket from sticking to either surface over >> time. >> >> Best, >> >> Alan >> >> '52 A90 From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 23:23:35 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:23:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] torque spec.exhaust to block In-Reply-To: References: <194180.24022.qm@web53808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <003d01ca5cf6$4e0aeed0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <751d05480911032223s4438a797h36d11789ec92232b@mail.gmail.com> Alan, What type do you use/recommend? Red, Blue, White? Cheers, Curt On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Mark - > > Permatex Anti-seize is the best thing ever invented. I think it's rated to > 1,900 degrees. It never goes away and keeps the rust off, permanently. I > always use it on all bolts and nuts when assembling. > > When I worked at The Geysers Geothermal Energy plant in N. California back > in 1985, we used the stuff to keep pipe bolts and nuts from corroding > together - the superheated steam we piped from a couple thousand feet down > has all sorts of sulfur, Hydrocloric, Sulfuric, and other nasty corrosive > acids which would reduce steel to rust in a couple of weeks. Whenever we > used that stuff, we NEVER had a problem with disassembly. > > Smell is there for about 5 minutes after start-up, then dissappears. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Mark LaPierre >wrote: > > > That anti seize has a really funky smell when its at room temp. What > does > > it smell like > > when it gets up to exhaust temp. and how can you tell if its properties > > remain > > the same after its heated to that degree? Does it even stay in place or > > burn off? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > >> The exhaust to downpipe nuts can be torqued a little tighter, maximum > >> 35-40 > >> ft lbs. Again, the downpipe gasket is a thick copper coated gasket, so > >> you > >> don't want to overtighten and pinch the gasket, otherwise you'll get > leaks > >> over time. Only on this particular gasket I like to use Permatex > >> anti-seize > >> on both surfaces to keep the gasket from sticking to either surface over > >> time. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Alan > >> > >> '52 A90 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Wed Nov 4 03:21:16 2009 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:21:16 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] Message-ID: <4AF1559C.50406@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> Blokes, I need some assistence with the identification of an unusual 5 speed Healey gearbox in a Sprite prototype that has been made from genuine BMC components. The question what vehicle in the BMC range did these parts originate from so that I can overhaul the clutch throwout mechanisms. There will be a prize. Main gearbox; bellhousing and case is one casting. Opening and therefore side cover is on the left hand side - no selector rods fitted here. Internals are MGB straight gear set, 1st to 4th. Lever with carbon throwout bearing to activate clutch. Secondary housing bolted to the rear of main box has 5th gear. Selector mechanism is on top and enters direct into selector rods. Unlike a std. Sprite there is a flange bolted to the output shaft. All up very long. Best clue, the alloy plate inside the bellhousing, retaining the front main bearing and seal on the input shaft has the following cast into it; 22 H 27 DD 2 MOWOG Gearlever rubber boot - Girling # 488032 Lets go! From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 03:35:59 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:35:59 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] torque spec.exhaust to block In-Reply-To: <751d05480911032223s4438a797h36d11789ec92232b@mail.gmail.com> References: <194180.24022.qm@web53808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <003d01ca5cf6$4e0aeed0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> <751d05480911032223s4438a797h36d11789ec92232b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Curt- You are confused. Anti-seize isn't a thread locker, it is technically a corrosion protectant and lubricant: http://www.permatex.com/products/Automotive/lubricants/specialty_lubricants/Permatex_Anti-Seize_Lubricant_a.htm Although the lubricating properties are really with respect to ease of dissasembly only, if your nuts are properly torqued it won't come loose with this stuff. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Alan, > > What type do you use/recommend? Red, Blue, White? > Cheers, > > Curt From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Wed Nov 4 04:56:14 2009 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:56:14 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Truth or Fiction in Car Storage and ZOO Message-ID: <4AF16BDE.6000606@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> Ray Juncal wrote: >Geeze Patrick you live in a real zoo. >Ray > What do they say about leaving the whats a names in charge of the zoo? ( Have no fear 'The Mighty Quinn' and I share the same birthday and in my case had I been born just 4 days later in UK I could have been Prince Charles. Pat was a few years too late) I think he wants to take the BN.3 out for his birthday and visit me in a couple of days, maybe to help with my clutch problem. From kentmclean at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 05:29:30 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:29:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF173AA.1080008@comcast.net> "Quinn, Patrick" wrote: > If I were to sign off Blue Mountains, Australia - besides covering an > area much bigger than Sydney, most of you blokes wouldn't have a clue > where I was talking about. Most of us don't have a clue where *Australia* is. It's in the Alps next to Italy, isn't it? :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From ahy3000 at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 05:37:40 2009 From: ahy3000 at comcast.net (ahy3000 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <1608335803.6380921257338150302.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1778023694.6381321257338260507.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Jack, I do this every winter - unheated garage in Massachusetts. I use the cheapest Wal-Mart brand dryer sheets. Make sure you put some under the seat bottoms (in the holes in the seat pans), in the heater box doors, and everywhere you think some critters will make a nest. Once the snow melts and you start thinking about driving again, you'll have a fresh smelling Healey! Burt Weiner '63 BJ7 HBJ7L/23582 ahy3000 at comcast.net he puts sheets of laundry softener in the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, and didn't smell. I never heard of this before. Has anyone? Jack _______________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 05:53:28 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:53:28 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <173126440911031403t6c6abf6ci81ee276d5dc66de0@mail.gmail.com> References: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> Message-ID: Okay. :) Correction: I don't "remember" ever seeeing a mouse with a ladder. :) From: eyera3 at gmail.com stewart little On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, wrote: Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 06:10:52 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:10:52 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <471534970911031420k57191172u33bb94ab53c74f20@mail.gmail.com> References: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> Message-ID: No, I don't think so. I've heard that having pets also attracts mice as there is always a bit of stray food lying around. I would hate to think how many mice would have to be around to self feed a cat. Then the cat goes and sharpens its claws on your seats or hood ... Good brainstorming though! > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:20:49 -0700 > > How about investing in a good mouser? :) > > Put a nice little kitty bed in front of your car, add cat and presto. > No more mice. And if the cat's any good it'll be self feeding. > (*grin*) > > Jody From ahy3000 at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 06:35:20 2009 From: ahy3000 at comcast.net (ahy3000 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Gas line plumbing In-Reply-To: <908270245.6401641257341098166.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2110593223.6405511257341720057.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I've seen lots of pix of cars with braided fuel lines in the engine compartment. I'm curious about the threaded connection that is marked N/A in the Moss catalog . It appears that this connection is 1/4" pipe thread and I haven't found a braided hose connection to match it. What did you do? Also, how do folks treat the cut end? I was thinking about heat shrink tape to keep the end from fraying. Any thoughts there? Also, just rebuilt my LCS-type fuel pump and lo and behold - it works! I am 99% certain that the condenser (not yet fitted) goes from ground (the wire clip grounds the body of the condenser) to the contact points blade screw. Yes? TIA for you help. Burt Weiner '63 BJ7 HBJ7L/23582 ahy3000 at comcast.net From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 06:50:15 2009 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:50:15 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <1778023694.6381321257338260507.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1608335803.6380921257338150302.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1778023694.6381321257338260507.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4e23c7250911040550v3b6f8351iec03d4c8476bc96f@mail.gmail.com> Question by a stupid Dutch: what are dryer sheets? Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/4 > Jack, > > I do this every winter - unheated garage in Massachusetts. I use the > cheapest Wal-Mart brand dryer sheets. Make sure you put some under the seat > bottoms (in the holes in the seat pans), in the heater box doors, and > everywhere you think some critters will make a nest. Once the snow melts and > you start thinking about driving again, you'll have a fresh smelling Healey! > > > Burt Weiner > '63 BJ7 > HBJ7L/23582 > ahy3000 at comcast.net > he puts sheets of laundry softener in > the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, > and didn't smell. > > I never heard of this before. Has anyone? > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From frogeye at porterscustom.com Wed Nov 4 06:53:52 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:53:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: References: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9B60865ED4064E2C9B2DABA08CBB50F1@oscar> Yep they can. Did a Jag E type resto a couple years ago and there was easily 10 pounds of dog food in the exhaust system and that giant air filter housing.. nimble little critters.. poor dog must have been skin and bones.. dp frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:53 AM To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Okay. :) Correction: I don't "remember" ever seeeing a mouse with a ladder. :) From: eyera3 at gmail.com stewart little On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, wrote: Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From aon.912808691 at aon.at Wed Nov 4 07:10:36 2009 From: aon.912808691 at aon.at (Reinhart Rosner (aon)) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:10:36 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers In-Reply-To: <4AF173AA.1080008@comcast.net> References: <4AF173AA.1080008@comcast.net> Message-ID: We do not have any kangaroos in Austria. And there are no opossums, blue tongue lizards or crocodiles. Most of our animals are not that dangerous as some in Australia like their snakes, spiders or jelly fish. But we do have mice. And I can tell you they do almost get everywhere (luckily not yet into my garage). They even ran in the cellar along the pipes of our central heating, which are mounted just below the ceiling - no clue how they got there. Maybe they know how to because we live near the Alps :) Reinhart 55 AH 100 BN1 -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Kent McLean Gesendet: Mittwoch, 04. November 2009 13:29 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers "Quinn, Patrick" wrote: > If I were to sign off Blue Mountains, Australia - besides covering an > area much bigger than Sydney, most of you blokes wouldn't have a clue > where I was talking about. Most of us don't have a clue where *Australia* is. It's in the Alps next to Italy, isn't it? :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as aon.912808691 at aon.at http://www.team.net/archive From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 07:27:25 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:27:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <002a01ca5cf4$0e15b640$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <48720d20911030617r34d6b06fye0d1c173f8a1577d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "It's a little known fact" that some mice got into a dryer and went for a ride and they've passed the experience on by word of mouth that the scent warns of a dangerous area where they could be in for a rough ride? ;) You have to figure that, if that's true, then mice should stop getting into exhaust pipes also. :) Robert D. > From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > The dryer sheets repel the rodents and > > Mark From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 07:29:15 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:29:15 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: References: <0AA70073-D45E-45A0-839A-8F98B8285927@comcast.net> Message-ID: It would be something to see ... coming out of someone else's car. I wonder what happens if they don't come out ... > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:39:35 -0500 > > I heard a story about one that got shot out of the tailpipe, bounced > off the back wall, and ran like heck afterwards... It's supposed > to be true. > > - Tom > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:21 PM, wrote: > > Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the > > exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they > > really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) From mgcharlie at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 07:36:35 2009 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:36:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <1778023694.6381321257338260507.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1778023694.6381321257338260507.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4AF19173.3080806@comcast.net> Burt, How many sheets per car? I put about six in the interior, four in the trunk, and a couple under the hood. Is that enough? Charlie ahy3000 at comcast.net wrote: > Jack, > > I do this every winter - unheated garage in Massachusetts. I use the cheapest Wal-Mart brand dryer sheets. Make sure you put some under the seat bottoms (in the holes in the seat pans), in the heater box doors, and everywhere you think some critters will make a nest. Once the snow melts and you start thinking about driving again, you'll have a fresh smelling Healey! > > > Burt Weiner > '63 BJ7 > HBJ7L/23582 > ahy3000 at comcast.net > he puts sheets of laundry softener in > the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, > and didn't smell. > > I never heard of this before. Has anyone? > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 07:49:22 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:49:22 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers In-Reply-To: <4AF173AA.1080008@comcast.net> References: Message-ID: Anyone who knows the difference between a French kiss and an Aussie kiss would have a better clue. :) > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:29:30 -0500 > > "Quinn, Patrick" wrote: > > If I were to sign off Blue Mountains, Australia - besides covering an > > area much bigger than Sydney, most of you blokes wouldn't have a clue > > where I was talking about. > > Most of us don't have a clue where *Australia* is. It's in the Alps next to > Italy, isn't it? > > :) > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 From bighealey at charter.net Wed Nov 4 08:12:51 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:12:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Winter Car Storage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7578A5AC64044FB29729B99870AE3C1C@TRACY> Here is a link to a Winter Storage article I wrote last year. http://healey.org/content/view/400/1/ Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 08:17:11 2009 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:17:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers In-Reply-To: References: <4AF173AA.1080008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <471534970911040717h502195b9u6bfc5298b107cdff@mail.gmail.com> "Agatha and I are so much interested in Australia. It must be so pretty will all the dear little kangaroos flying about. Agatha has found it on the map. What a curious shape it is! Just like a large packing case." --every time I hear a silly conversation about Australia that pops into my head. Jody -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From ahy3000 at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 08:27:19 2009 From: ahy3000 at comcast.net (ahy3000 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <4e23c7250911040550v3b6f8351iec03d4c8476bc96f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <951434928.6473511257348439593.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Jaap, We Americans find new expensive and environmentally unfriendly ways to do just about everything. A dryer sheet is a piece of non-woven paper that is impregnated with a scent (and Lord knows what else). It is usually placed in the clothes dryer with the laundry and is supposed to remove static, make things smell good, and cure the common cold (okay, I made that last bit up). For some reason (perhaps because they are smarter than humans), chipmonks and mice don't like the things and stay away. Burt Weiner '63 BJ7 HBJ7L/23582 ahy3000 at comcast.net From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Nov 4 08:36:16 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:36:16 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] In-Reply-To: <4AF1559C.50406@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> References: <4AF1559C.50406@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> Message-ID: <4AF19F70.4060906@chello.nl> MOWOG probably stands for MOrris-WOlseley Group. I could be wrong but may be Lotus cobbled up something together for the early Lotus 7. Kees Oudesluijs NL Joe and Lenore Armour schreef: > Blokes, I need some assistence with the identification of an unusual 5 > speed Healey gearbox in a Sprite prototype that has been made from > genuine BMC components. The question what vehicle in the BMC range did > these parts originate from so that I can overhaul the clutch throwout > mechanisms. There will be a prize. > > Main gearbox; bellhousing and case is one casting. Opening and > therefore side cover is on the left hand side - no selector rods > fitted here. Internals are MGB straight gear set, 1st to 4th. Lever > with carbon throwout bearing to activate clutch. > Secondary housing bolted to the rear of main box has 5th gear. > Selector mechanism is on top and enters direct into selector rods. > Unlike a std. Sprite there is a flange bolted to the output shaft. > > All up very long. > > Best clue, the alloy plate inside the bellhousing, retaining the front > main bearing and seal on the input shaft has the following cast into it; > > 22 H 27 DD 2 > MOWOG > > Gearlever rubber boot - Girling # 488032 > > Lets go! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.48/2479 - Release Date: 11/03/09 19:38:00 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 08:39:25 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:39:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <4e23c7250911040550v3b6f8351iec03d4c8476bc96f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1608335803.6380921257338150302.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1778023694.6381321257338260507.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Hmmm! They're a fabric like small sheet ( like a tissue ) that is used primarily for anti-static purposes in the clothes drier. http://www.bouncesheets.com/en_CA/products/index.jsp > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:50:15 +0100 > > Question by a stupid Dutch: what are dryer sheets? > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > 1964 BJ8 29432 > > 2009/11/4 > > > Jack, > > > > I do this every winter - unheated garage in Massachusetts. I use the > > cheapest Wal-Mart brand dryer sheets. Make sure you put some under the seat > > bottoms (in the holes in the seat pans), in the heater box doors, and > > everywhere you think some critters will make a nest. Once the snow melts and > > you start thinking about driving again, you'll have a fresh smelling Healey! > > > > > > Burt Weiner From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 09:06:28 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:06:28 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: <4AF19173.3080806@comcast.net> References: <1778023694.6381321257338260507.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Just thinking ... if the mice have to use the tires ( or stands ) as their access point, how about a sheet under each tire ( or stand )? ( Would a dryer sheet have an adverse effect on the tire? ) RD > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:36:35 -0500 > > Burt, > How many sheets per car? > I put about six in the interior, four in the trunk, and a couple under > the hood. Is that enough? > Charlie > > ahy3000 at comcast.net wrote: > > Jack, > > > > I do this every winter - unheated garage in Massachusetts. I use the cheapest Wal-Mart brand dryer sheets. Make sure you put some under the seat bottoms (in the holes in the seat pans), in the heater box doors, and everywhere you think some critters will make a nest. Once the snow melts and you start thinking about driving again, you'll have a fresh smelling Healey! > > > > > > Burt Weiner > > '63 BJ7 > > HBJ7L/23582 > > ahy3000 at comcast.net > > he puts sheets of laundry softener in > > the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, > > and didn't smell. > > > > I never heard of this before. Has anyone? > > > > Jack > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 4 09:19:44 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:19:44 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction balls and Car Storage In-Reply-To: <1E861457-A728-4201-9E7B-EF0CF53A98E9@mac.com> References: <48720d20911030617r34d6b06fye0d1c173f8a1577d@mail.gmail.com> <1E861457-A728-4201-9E7B-EF0CF53A98E9@mac.com> Message-ID: <79AFE6A5-04CA-45EE-9320-8C8E0E8892F2@sbcglobal.net> All this talk reminds me that we all need take care of our Balls and protect them. Check out this site it is all about those precious BALLS http://www.got-ballz.com/ David Nock On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Al Malin wrote: > Overheard this conversation: > > "Did you ever smell moth balls?" > > "Yeah." > > "How did you get between it's legs?" > > With apologies, > Al Malin > Tricarb > > > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Jack Feldman wrote: > >> I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, >> rodents. >> >> The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry >> softener in >> the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than >> mothballs, >> and didn't smell. >> >> I never heard of this before. Has anyone? >> >> Jack >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as amalin at mac.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Nov 4 09:35:53 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:35:53 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091104103553.0V2S5.541588.root@ispmxfep13-z01> I shot two of them out of my XJ6 tailpipes several winters ago. They bounced off the wall, but never lived to tell anyone about it. ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: ============= It would be something to see ... coming out of someone else's car. I wonder what happens if they don't come out ... > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:39:35 -0500 > > I heard a story about one that got shot out of the tailpipe, bounced > off the back wall, and ran like heck afterwards... It's supposed > to be true. > > - Tom > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:21 PM, wrote: > > Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the > > exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they > > really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 10:57:51 2009 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:57:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] In-Reply-To: <4AF19F70.4060906@chello.nl> References: <4AF1559C.50406@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> <4AF19F70.4060906@chello.nl> Message-ID: <471534970911040957h6a9026e1y703aba1d01a1c61a@mail.gmail.com> Kees has it right. MOWOG means it's part of the Nuffield organization (later to be BMC after merging with Austin, and even later becoming British Leyland...) a.k.a Morris, Wolsley, Riley marques, later BMC & British Leyland Marques and anyone who eventually licensed any of the parts. What makes it fun, is that your transmission could have come from many different cars. I went out and took a peek at my transmission collection. It's not a Sprite/Midget tranmission, nor is it a Spitfire one (I've got 7 or 8 tranmissions for cars I don't own. Don't ask). I've never seen a MOWOG tranmission box that's a single unit including the bell housing. That's the part that really strikes me as odd about the whole thing. I'd start looking at the more offbeat cars like Riley's or Metropolitans. Can you send me a picture of the transmission? Does it have any external markings? A proper MOWOG tranmission should have it in big letters cast somewhere on the outside of the case. It's also entirely possible that it came from a vehicle that licensed MOWOG parts, so they might not have the word on the outside. Jody On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > MOWOG probably stands for MOrris-WOlseley Group. > I could be wrong but may be Lotus cobbled up something together for the > early Lotus 7. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From don at anglesey.us Wed Nov 4 11:14:43 2009 From: don at anglesey.us (Don) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:14:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: They don't need a ladder they only need a hole the size of their head. I found one in my 59' John Deere cooling system after it had sat for a couple of years with the bottom bolt removed from the drain. It had to jump over 3 feet up or was one hell of an acrobat to get in there. Don 57' BN4 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:53 AM To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Okay. :) Correction: I don't "remember" ever seeeing a mouse with a ladder. :) From: eyera3 at gmail.com stewart little On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, wrote: Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) _______________________________________________ From m.j.carpenter at cox.net Wed Nov 4 11:17:43 2009 From: m.j.carpenter at cox.net (Mike Carpenter) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:17:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Temporary Suspension of List Message-ID: I will be a way for a few weeks - please suspend my membership until further notice. Thank You, Mike Carpenter From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 11:30:16 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:30:16 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So, perhaps we better rethink the mice in exhaust systems getting expelled out at high velocity. Maybe it's not the exhaust expelling them, maybe they're just jumping!!! ;) I must say that I'm amazed when I see squirrels and chipmunks doing things like running on power lines or climbing up or down vertical walls or jumping from tree to tree. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised at what mice can do too. > From: don at anglesey.us > > They don't need a ladder they only need a hole the size of their head. > I found one in my 59' John Deere cooling system after it had sat for a > couple of years with the bottom bolt removed from the drain. It had to > jump over 3 feet up or was one hell of an acrobat to get in there. > Don > 57' BN4 > > -----Original Message----- > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Okay. :) Correction: I don't "remember" ever seeeing a mouse with a > ladder. > :) > > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > > stewart little > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, wrote: > > Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in > the > exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can > they > really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) From ahy3000 at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 11:36:50 2009 From: ahy3000 at comcast.net (ahy3000 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <465071173.6573361257359810989.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> My car sits on wood block with the tires off the ground - maybe little barbed wire fences around each wheel...... I know some owners use an inflatable plastic contraption that fits around the entire car, and keeps air circulating. I like to work on the car temperature permitting (unheated garage) so that wouldn't work for me. Burt Weiner '63 BJ7 HBJ7L/23582 ahy3000 at comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca To: "Healeys" Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 11:06:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Just thinking ... if the mice have to use the tires ( or stands ) as their access point, how about a sheet under each tire ( or stand )? ( Would a dryer sheet have an adverse effect on the tire? ) RD From moomau at verizon.net Wed Nov 4 11:41:12 2009 From: moomau at verizon.net (moomau_verizon_mail) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:41:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Gas line plumbing Message-ID: I have the same question that Burt Weiner asked about the gas line. If someone gives Burt an answer off line, please send me e-mail with the answers. Thank you, Gary Moomau, 67 BJ8 Yucaipa, CA From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed Nov 4 11:49:03 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:49:03 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Message-ID: <7D0AE551CAB64C7EAFA02E7BE6D56184@tm> Hello, I am rebuilding my 100 engine, and thought I would share some pictures with you - I am looking for any comments what's not correct.. http://picasaweb.google.com/Volvo1800S/HealeyEngine# BR, Tadek PS. Yes, the way the paint is done is not with accordance with concourse guidelines but the engine will be sprayed once assembled.. From Awgertoo at aol.com Wed Nov 4 11:51:23 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:51:23 EST Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] Message-ID: The rear axle housing on my Elva Courier is described as a "Riley" rear axle. It has the same dimensions as that of a Morris Minor, is about 3-4 inches narrower than that of a Spridget and of course the third member is that out of a Sprite/Metro, Austin A 35, etc. etc. I think the English auto industry invented the acronym. Best--Michael Oritt --------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/4/2009 1:37:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jodyfkerr at gmail.com writes: That's the part that really strikes me as odd about the whole thing. I'd start looking at the more offbeat cars like Riley's or Metropolitans. From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 4 12:13:47 2009 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:13:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] [Healey skunk . truth In-Reply-To: References: <4AF173AA.1080008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <68112.22641.qm@web83301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> a lady came into our shop to pick up her Healey .. she came into our office and said , " There is a skunk in my exhaust pipe " we went out side to see this skunk and found that some of the fiberglass packing from inside the muffler was hanging out of the rear exhaust pipe , color was white and black . Looked like a skunk .. Norman Nock ________________________________ From: Reinhart Rosner (aon) To: Kent McLean ; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 6:10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers We do not have any kangaroos in Austria. And there are no opossums, blue tongue lizards or crocodiles. Most of our animals are not that dangerous as some in Australia like their snakes, spiders or jelly fish. But we do have mice. And I can tell you they do almost get everywhere (luckily not yet into my garage). They even ran in the cellar along the pipes of our central heating, which are mounted just below the ceiling - no clue how they got there. Maybe they know how to because we live near the Alps :) Reinhart 55 AH 100 BN1 -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Kent McLean Gesendet: Mittwoch, 04. November 2009 13:29 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers "Quinn, Patrick" wrote: > If I were to sign off Blue Mountains, Australia - besides covering an > area much bigger than Sydney, most of you blokes wouldn't have a clue > where I was talking about. Most of us don't have a clue where *Australia* is. It's in the Alps next to Italy, isn't it? :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as aon.912808691 at aon.at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sjnnock at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive From bighealey at charter.net Wed Nov 4 12:17:22 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:17:22 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] In-Reply-To: <4AF19F70.4060906@chello.nl> Message-ID: Morris-Wolesley Garages Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Oudesluys Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:36 AM To: Joe and Lenore Armour Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] MOWOG probably stands for MOrris-WOlseley Group. I could be wrong but may be Lotus cobbled up something together for the early Lotus 7. Kees Oudesluijs NL From mgcharlie at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 13:47:58 2009 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:47:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF1E87E.2010704@comcast.net> While we're on the subject, I'll give you the correct meaning of MOWOG: *MO*rris-*WO*lseley-m*G *To me it makes more sense than the others. Charlie Tracy Drummond wrote: > Morris-Wolesley Garages > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > President AHCUSA www.healey.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Oudesluys > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:36 AM > To: Joe and Lenore Armour > Cc: Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] > > MOWOG probably stands for MOrris-WOlseley Group. > I could be wrong but may be Lotus cobbled up something together for the > early Lotus 7. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From Awgertoo at aol.com Wed Nov 4 14:18:15 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:18:15 EST Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Message-ID: Tadeuz-- I don't see anything that is NOT "correct" but sure see a lot of nice looking stuff! The engine looks great. I have some questions: 1. What are you using for a front damper? 2. What are you using for a flex line between the oil pump pick up and the block? 3. What are you usiing for an oil pump --source? 4. Do you have any thoughts on proper clearance specs in the oil pump? 5. Nice pistons--whose are those and do you have any guess on compression ratio? Best--Michael Oritt ------------------------------------------------------ In a message dated 11/4/2009 2:55:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl writes: I am looking for any comments what's not correct.. From fogbro1 at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 14:31:34 2009 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:31:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] MOWOG References: <4AF1559C.50406@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> <4AF19F70.4060906@chello.nl> Message-ID: <934FF55E5F834275AF02035B4AEA8A04@Edscomputer> I always thought it stood for Morris-Woolsley-Mg Ed Woods From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Nov 4 14:45:08 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:45:08 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] MOWOG In-Reply-To: <934FF55E5F834275AF02035B4AEA8A04@Edscomputer> References: <4AF1559C.50406@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> <4AF19F70.4060906@chello.nl> <934FF55E5F834275AF02035B4AEA8A04@Edscomputer> Message-ID: <4AF1F5E4.2010603@chello.nl> Could be as well. I suppose it is one of those thing nobody knows for certain. It certainly showed on Morris, Wolseley, MG and some others. Kees Oudesluijs NL Ed Woods schreef: > I always thought it stood for Morris-Woolsley-Mg > > Ed Woods > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.48/2479 - Release Date: 11/03/09 19:38:00 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 15:07:25 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:07:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay Message-ID: Pics are still up though the auction is over. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260494121478&_trksid=p27 59.l1259 Are those clear reflectors on the back? ( It's hard to tell on this monitor! They might be orange? ) ) And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like the BN2 one is it? Robert D. From michael at mcassociatesinc.com Wed Nov 4 15:33:44 2009 From: michael at mcassociatesinc.com (Michael Couch) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:33:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Message-ID: I had to replace a clutch in an early Audi Quattro because a mouse had built a nest inside the bell housing. The only access we could find was through an inspection hole that was 3/8" square. Very expensive Mike Couch Pittsburgh BN2 AN2 AN7 From dwflagg at juno.com Wed Nov 4 15:34:49 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:34:49 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Trim Kit (non-Healey) Message-ID: <20091104.143454.5937.904@mailpop05.dca.untd.com> A friend is interested in purchasing a cockpit trim kit for his Mercedes on eBay, item #270473673569, from newanystyle (id). Has anyone had experience with them or know someone who has. You can't always go on feedback, so he is looking for some first hand info. TIA. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Get Help With Your Credit Cards! Free online quote in 2 minutes. No credit check. No obligation! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=SpKzy747NID2CaAxFbHoGQAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAHoRdz4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABI2lwAAAAA= From rbender1 at berkshire.rr.com Wed Nov 4 15:38:38 2009 From: rbender1 at berkshire.rr.com (Robert Bender) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:38:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Does your car need a ride East?? Message-ID: <046DAD3A6B0942D282DB9CCE697626AD@benders> Have an empty car trailer going from Tucson Arizona on the 23rd of November to Charleston SC if you have a need to get something back east. I'm a 61 year young man, very active in the Austin Healey Club of America for thirty years and have been hauling cars somewhere for that length of time. Hauling with a nearly new Dodge dually and a good open trailer. Price would be negotiable, between $400-$600 depending on weight, etc. If interested call 928-284-2186 or 413-695-1764 (cell) or e-mail austin3000 at verizon.net From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Wed Nov 4 15:47:51 2009 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:47:51 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] MOWOG In-Reply-To: <934FF55E5F834275AF02035B4AEA8A04@Edscomputer> References: <4AF1559C.50406@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> <4AF19F70.4060906@chello.nl> <934FF55E5F834275AF02035B4AEA8A04@Edscomputer> Message-ID: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94D9D@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> G'day Yes you are right Ed. It reminds me of an amusing story of when the first Ford 260ci V8 arrived at AC to be fitted to the first AC Cobra. It arrived in a wooden crate with FoMoCo printed all over the box. The AC workers couldn't work out what FoMoCo meant and assumed that the engines were built in Japan or China. How interesting would it have been if the BMC grand poobahs at the time hadn't knocked back Shelby for an Austin-Healey to play with? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed Woods Sent: Thursday, 5 November 2009 8:32 AM To: Oudesluys; Joe and Lenore Armour Cc: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] MOWOG I always thought it stood for Morris-Woolsley-Mg Ed Woods ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 16:20:26 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 23:20:26 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] MOWOG In-Reply-To: <4AF1F5E4.2010603@chello.nl> References: <4AF1559C.50406@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> <4AF19F70.4060906@chello.nl> Message-ID: Well there's lots of discussion on the internet ... http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/mowog.htm I like these, personally ... Some say 'MoWoG' is the name of a god that has to be appeased with many offerings of fluids and expensive new parts, otherwise 'he' (or more probably 'she') will cause breakdowns at most inopportune moments. Others say it was a joke by a foreman in the casting shop many years ago, knowing that it would plague owners for years to come. > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:45:08 +0100 > > Could be as well. I suppose it is one of those thing nobody knows for > certain. It certainly showed on Morris, Wolseley, MG and some others. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > Ed Woods schreef: > > I always thought it stood for Morris-Woolsley-Mg > > > > Ed Woods From Awgertoo at aol.com Wed Nov 4 16:20:20 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:20:20 EST Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay Message-ID: I always thought that the transmission on a BN1 was the same regardless of whether the car was RHD or LHD. Am I wrong? Best--Michael Oritt ----------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/4/2009 6:09:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like the BN2 one From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 16:22:58 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:22:58 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF20CD2.7080901@comcast.net> Did any of you check out his eBay Store ?? VERY interesting ride at bottom of the page !!! Rover 10HP Weymann Fabric Bodied 'Riviera' Saloon <> Tinyurl for above which DOES work: http://tinyurl.com/ybluazp Ed From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 16:23:07 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 23:23:07 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I believe that it is only the shift lever that is different. Someone will correct me. From: Awgertoo at aol.com I always thought that the transmission on a BN1 was the same regardless of whether the car was RHD or LHD. Am I wrong? Best--Michael Oritt ----------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/4/2009 6:09:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like the BN2 one From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 16:25:14 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 23:25:14 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay In-Reply-To: <6D8E7909-66C1-46EA-86C4-6DB164CD38F3@gmail.com> References: Message-ID: No, I'm pretty sure the one I have is the best. ;) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay > > BN1 & BN2 are very different tunnels and shifters. As well as > transmissions. > > BN2 is much better. Got both. > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > '56 100M > '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > > > On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:07 PM, wrote: > > > And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like > > the BN2 one is it? From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Nov 4 16:55:15 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:55:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tedeuz, looks like you have the rear seal kit and the flew replacement oil line at the pump, two good mods, looks as though the block has been decked to insure a good seal for the head gasket, looks like a higher compression piston, good as well, has the head been checked for cracks? it often cracks. Did you think about lightening the flywheel the motor was used in a truck a the flywheel is a real boat anchor at 40 plus pounds, I had my local machine shop take quite a bit off, maybe 12 pounds or so, didn't cost much. Looks good, looks like you are doing the right things good luck, Greg Lemon ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild > Tadeuz-- > > I don't see anything that is NOT "correct" but sure see a lot of nice > looking stuff! The engine looks great. > > I have some questions: > > 1. What are you using for a front damper? > 2. What are you using for a flex line between the oil pump pick up and > the block? > 3. What are you usiing for an oil pump --source? > 4. Do you have any thoughts on proper clearance specs in the oil pump? > 5. Nice pistons--whose are those and do you have any guess on > compression ratio? > > Best--Michael Oritt > ------------------------------------------------------ > In a message dated 11/4/2009 2:55:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl writes: > > I am looking for any comments what's not correct.. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as glemon at neb.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From grday at btinternet.com Wed Nov 4 17:08:51 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:08:51 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] [SPAM] Re: MOWOG References: <4AF1559C.50406@illawarra.hotkey.net.au><4AF19F70.4060906@chello.nl><934FF55E5F834275AF02035B4AEA8A04@Edscomputer> <4AF1F5E4.2010603@chello.nl> Message-ID: <77A3CFF5EE784902A3364C5962B891A2@user8634b3d69b> MOrris WOlesley Garages. It has been that for the past 60odd years ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" To: "Ed Woods" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Healeys] MOWOG > Could be as well. I suppose it is one of those thing nobody knows for > certain. It certainly showed on Morris, Wolseley, MG and some others. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > Ed Woods schreef: >> I always thought it stood for Morris-Woolsley-Mg >> >> Ed Woods >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: >> 270.14.48/2479 - Release Date: 11/03/09 19:38:00 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Nov 4 17:27:18 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:27:18 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3C61F8ACC4D44E1A82C41EE53F111A0D@GregPC> Meant to mention and forgot, the oil pump strainer, these things often get mushed when the pan get mushed, looks like yours has been repaired, I would shake and pick at the strainer to make sure none of the welds or whatever method was used to repair is not likely to come off and score your pump and or bearings. If you decide you need it you can get new ones, not cheap for what they are, some don't fit very well or at all, interfereing with the pan, got one like that from MOSS USA a few years back don't know if they have remedied the matter, got a good one from the Nocks. Know you will likely wource partd from Europe, If you decide to go new make sure the supplier gets you a good one, my bad one had the bottom flange where screen meets metal turned down and interfearing with the pan, instead of turned up towards the block. Greg Lemon From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed Nov 4 17:27:50 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:27:50 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2C3877C2458A40BDBFE85E2D863D055C@tm> Hello there, Yes, I did invest few pounds into Denis Welch enterprises - I hope they spend it well. :-) To follow your questions: 1. I was not actually planning to use any front damper - is there such a need? I understood it's only necessary on the 3000.. 2. The oil flex line is from DW 3. The oil pump is new from DW as well 4. Since it's new, I hope it's proper.. Might it not be?? 5. The pistons are Omega pistons from DW. They sit 0.25mm (+-0.05mm) below deck. If my calculations are correct, I should be at 1:8.89 compression ratio. 6. The head is a DW fast road head with their studs, nuts, washers and head gasket. (I do wonder why the gasket is 10% of the head price..) 7. The cam is a DWR1 cam Machine work done: - block line boring - cylinder boring - head decked - connecting rods bored and checked for being straight - connecting rods balanced - crankshaft, flywheel, clutch balanced I did think about lightening the flywheel, but I was a bit afraid to do so.. I know it's incredibly heavy, but then the engine is a long stroke with crank supported only on 3 bearings - my machinist was slightly skeptical about it.. I can't really go back now, as the whole crank & flywheel & clutch are balanced. _____ From: Awgertoo at aol.com [mailto:Awgertoo at aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:18 PM To: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Tadeuz-- I don't see anything that is NOT "correct" but sure see a lot of nice looking stuff! The engine looks great. I have some questions: 1. What are you using for a front damper? 2. What are you using for a flex line between the oil pump pick up and the block? 3. What are you usiing for an oil pump --source? 4. Do you have any thoughts on proper clearance specs in the oil pump? 5. Nice pistons--whose are those and do you have any guess on compression ratio? Best--Michael Oritt ------------------------------------------------------ In a message dated 11/4/2009 2:55:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl writes: I am looking for any comments what's not correct.. From edriver at sasktel.net Wed Nov 4 18:07:42 2009 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:07:42 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF2255E.9020900@sasktel.net> Hi Michael You are correct. The only thing for most the shift pattern for North Americans is a bit screwy ;-) Regards Ed Saskatoon Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > I always thought that the transmission on a BN1 was the same regardless of > whether the car was RHD or LHD. Am I wrong? > > Best--Michael Oritt > ----------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 11/4/2009 6:09:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > > And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like the BN2 > one > _ From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 18:22:41 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:22:41 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <751d05480911041722g17bdb050u2aa5f274b16edb18@mail.gmail.com> Tadek, The best bet for your BN2 is to use a BJ8 Flywheel which is much lighter than stock, plus no messing around with lightening. Doing this will also allow you to use the better diaphragm clutch from the same. I would do this with my BN1 but the three speed bell housing will foul on the BJ8 setup. Cheers, Curt On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > Tedeuz, looks like you have the rear seal kit and the flew replacement oil > line at the pump, two good mods, looks as though the block has been decked > to insure a good seal for the head gasket, looks like a higher compression > piston, good as well, has the head been checked for cracks? it often > cracks. > > Did you think about lightening the flywheel the motor was used in a truck a > the flywheel is a real boat anchor at 40 plus pounds, I had my local machine > shop take quite a bit off, maybe 12 pounds or so, didn't cost much. > > Looks good, looks like you are doing the right things good luck, > > Greg Lemon > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild > > > Tadeuz-- >> >> I don't see anything that is NOT "correct" but sure see a lot of nice >> looking stuff! The engine looks great. >> >> I have some questions: >> >> 1. What are you using for a front damper? >> 2. What are you using for a flex line between the oil pump pick up and >> the block? >> 3. What are you usiing for an oil pump --source? >> 4. Do you have any thoughts on proper clearance specs in the oil pump? >> 5. Nice pistons--whose are those and do you have any guess on >> compression ratio? >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> In a message dated 11/4/2009 2:55:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl writes: >> >> I am looking for any comments what's not correct.. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as glemon at neb.rr.com >> >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Awgertoo at aol.com Wed Nov 4 18:33:41 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:33:41 EST Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Message-ID: I did what Curt suggests to my BN1 with the Smitty's bellhousing. The BJ8 clutch is light and has geat action. Best--Michael Oritt ----------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/4/2009 8:23:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cnaarndt at gmail.com writes: The best bet for your BN2 is to use a BJ8 Flywheel which is much lighter than stock, plus no messing around with lightening. Doing this will also allow you to use the better diaphragm clutch from the same. I would do this with my BN1 but the three speed bell housing will foul on the BJ8 setup. From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 18:54:13 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:54:13 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild In-Reply-To: <2C3877C2458A40BDBFE85E2D863D055C@tm> References: <2C3877C2458A40BDBFE85E2D863D055C@tm> Message-ID: Tadek - Awesome, nicely done. Can't wait to see the H6 carbs on that motor :). It would be interesting to see what sort of power you will get out of that car. At 2.6 liters, with a little bit of intelligence getting it up to 150 hp seems possible. I was going to go that route with my BN1 but when I decided I wanted to keep it original with the three speed, I realized that uprating the motor on my car would be a waste of time. With your BN2 and the four speed box, this should be great. I know you've balanced the crank and flywheel, but I still think shaving about 7-10 kilos off the flywheel is probably a good idea. Your BN2 is quite light so it doesn't need all that weight. For my A90, however, it's different story! One small note - be sure to clean the overpaint off the surfaces where gaskets will mate to the block. If not, the gaskets, no matter how they are treated, will likely leak over time. Been driving my Jag Mk IX for the last few months. Lovely car, fast & THIRSTY! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From sales at justbrits.com Wed Nov 4 18:56:12 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:56:12 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working Message-ID: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> This is just UNREAL (car related but non LBC): Clunker program: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ ap_on_bi_ge/us_cash_for_clunkers or *http://tinyurl.com/yljgbgw Ed * From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Wed Nov 4 20:03:02 2009 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:03:02 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DA7@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> G'day It's from the days of badge engineering. BMC built one car and depending on what badge or grille it could have been a Morris Elite, Wolseley 1500, Austin Lancer or Riley 1500. All had differing levels of trim, but same mechanicals. My memory tells me they had the same floor pan as the Morris Minor and therefore the same rear end. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Somewhere in Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Awgertoo at aol.com Sent: Thursday, 5 November 2009 5:51 AM To: jodyfkerr at gmail.com; coudesluijs at chello.nl Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] The rear axle housing on my Elva Courier is described as a "Riley" rear axle. It has the same dimensions as that of a Morris Minor, is about 3-4 inches narrower than that of a Spridget and of course the third member is that out of a Sprite/Metro, Austin A 35, etc. etc. I think the English auto industry invented the acronym. Best--Michael Oritt --------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/4/2009 1:37:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jodyfkerr at gmail.com writes: That's the part that really strikes me as odd about the whole thing. I'd start looking at the more offbeat cars like Riley's or Metropolitans. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as patrick.quinn at det.nsw.edu.au http://www.team.net/archive ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 4 20:17:02 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 03:17:02 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay In-Reply-To: <4AF2255E.9020900@sasktel.net> References: <4AF2255E.9020900@sasktel.net> Message-ID: Isn't it a bit screwy for all? > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:07:42 -0600 > > Hi Michael > > You are correct. The only thing for most the shift pattern for North > Americans is a bit > screwy ;-) > > Regards > Ed > Saskatoon > > Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > > I always thought that the transmission on a BN1 was the same regardless of > > whether the car was RHD or LHD. Am I wrong? > > > > Best--Michael Oritt > > ----------------------------------------------- > > > > In a message dated 11/4/2009 6:09:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > > > > And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like the BN2 > > one From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 20:35:52 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:35:52 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: I never understood why you would take taxes from hardworking Americans and then give it to a small handful of other Amercans to go and buy a new car? It was the most retarded government program I have heard of yet. By the way, the real purpose of the program had nothing to do with the environment. The purpose of the program was to artificially boost US GDP in 2Q, which then those figures were published a week ago, conveniently a week before the interim elections in NY, VA and NJ to help sway opinions that the "stimulus" package was working and theoretically boosted GDP in 2Q to a fantasy 3.5% growth rate, in theory showing that the Democrats were really making things better. Most of Wall street had connected the dots already and discounted the 2Q 3.5% GDP growth rate and tied it directly to the cash for clunkers, not the Stimulus. I guess the strategy didn't work very well, but I'm just furious that these jerks on the Hill think it's ok to use our tax money to try to sway elections and buy votes, oh but I guess I should know better... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Sales at " Just Brits " wrote: > This is just UNREAL (car related but non LBC): > > Clunker program: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ > ap_on_bi_ge/us_cash_for_clunkers > > or > > *http://tinyurl.com/yljgbgw > > Ed From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Nov 4 21:32:37 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:32:37 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay In-Reply-To: <4AF2255E.9020900@sasktel.net> References: <4AF2255E.9020900@sasktel.net> Message-ID: <997B12CFDFEC4BA594EC3F6746B15644@GregPC> "You are correct. The only thing for most the shift pattern for North Americans is a bit screwy ;-) Regards Ed Saskatoon" You are right, but I have to say I am certainly not the most dextorous guy in the world and the reverse pattern three speed on the BN1 box never really caused me any problems, it is admittedly an archaic gearbox with weak synchros and probably not overly strong period, but I always felt it was part of the unique charm of the car, and worked pretty well with the O/D and broad torque band of the motor. I did shop around until I found a good used stock shift ball which had not been worn so much that you couldn't paint the shift pattern back on it. I even drove a 5 speed modern car as my daily driver and switched back and forth no problems. As was mentioned a short time ago on the list the RHD version has the same box, but does have a funky shift lever to accomodate the severe left hand mount of the remote mechanism on the BN1 box. Greg Lemon From 55healey at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 22:10:47 2009 From: 55healey at comcast.net (robert westcott) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:10:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild In-Reply-To: <3C61F8ACC4D44E1A82C41EE53F111A0D@GregPC> References: <3C61F8ACC4D44E1A82C41EE53F111A0D@GregPC> Message-ID: <9E88AD8E-BDB6-47E9-8B5D-5BDEEF580191@comcast.net> My new strainer was almost an inch too deep with the new aluminum pan (It is thicker than the steel). I took the strainer apart and cut 3/4" off the bottom of the screen and spot welded it back together, I also needed to shorten the supply tube so the pan could fit without crushing the strainer. If you need pics send me a note. My old one was in shreds. Rob On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > Meant to mention and forgot, the oil pump strainer, these things > often get mushed when the pan get mushed, looks like yours has been > repaired, I would shake and pick at the strainer to make sure none > of the welds or whatever method was used to repair is not likely to > come off and score your pump and or bearings. > > If you decide you need it you can get new ones, not cheap for what > they are, some don't fit very well or at all, interfereing with the > pan, got one like that from MOSS USA a few years back don't know if > they have remedied the matter, got a good one from the Nocks. Know > you will likely wource partd from Europe, If you decide to go new > make sure the supplier gets you a good one, my bad one had the > bottom flange where screen meets metal turned down and interfearing > with the pan, instead of turned up towards the block. From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Nov 4 22:18:42 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:18:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay References: Message-ID: <67015620E8AF490CA26C692BE11BA1B8@LIFEBOOK> The gearbox and o/d on a BN1 is the same for right or left hand drive applications. Only the gear lever is different. The RH drive lever is about 3" longer and cants over to the right more. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay >I always thought that the transmission on a BN1 was the same regardless of > whether the car was RHD or LHD. Am I wrong? > > Best--Michael Oritt > ----------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 11/4/2009 6:09:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > > And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like the > BN2 > one > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeyray at yahoo.com Wed Nov 4 22:18:58 2009 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:18:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] What thread?? Message-ID: <472631.84356.qm@web111409.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hey guys, you know those little shallow angle flat head screws that hold the corner brackets of a 100 windshield frame? What thread are they? I want to chase the thread in the bracket and the screws are too short to get a read on a thread gauge. I think they may be "BA #4" 38.5 tpi . The 38 tpi gauge looks close and the "D" is .137". Thanks Ray Juncal From robertlarson at att.net Wed Nov 4 23:12:15 2009 From: robertlarson at att.net (Bob) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:12:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay In-Reply-To: <997B12CFDFEC4BA594EC3F6746B15644@GregPC> References: <4AF2255E.9020900@sasktel.net> <997B12CFDFEC4BA594EC3F6746B15644@GregPC> Message-ID: <4AF26CBF.5040904@att.net> For fun try jumping between some of the old and new Brit motorcycles, right or left foot shift and is 1st gear up or down? To this day and on my '06 Triumph I still, especially in an unexpected situation, have gotten it wrong and try to down shift with the right foot and have locked the rear wheel brake. I originally learned ( 1947 Ariel ) and for many years rode right foot shifters and my learned response is wrong! Bob 55BN1 60 Matchless 65 Royal Enfield 79 Triumph 06 Triumph Greg Lemon wrote: > > I even drove a 5 speed modern car as my daily driver and switched back > and forth no problems. As was mentioned a short time ago on the list > the RHD version has the same box, but does have a funky shift lever to > accomodate the severe left hand mount of the remote mechanism on the > BN1 box. > > Greg Lemon > _______________________________________________ From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Thu Nov 5 00:30:45 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:30:45 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alan, I would probably more expect a region of 130hp, but we will see.. I just hope I have not messed up the torque, as I love it on the Healey. The H6 carbs are definitely missing :-) They should be here in early December - many thanks Alan, I hope you see they will be at good use.. I was thinking of lightening the flywheel, but I had no precise indications where to machine it. The idea of using a BJ8 flywheel is an interesting one - does anyone have a spare one in US?.. Many thanks for all kind words - I will have some more pictures when the head and rest comes on. Best, Tadek _____ From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:54 AM To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Cc: Awgertoo at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net; glemon at neb.rr.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Tadek - Awesome, nicely done. Can't wait to see the H6 carbs on that motor :). It would be interesting to see what sort of power you will get out of that car. At 2.6 liters, with a little bit of intelligence getting it up to 150 hp seems possible. I was going to go that route with my BN1 but when I decided I wanted to keep it original with the three speed, I realized that uprating the motor on my car would be a waste of time. With your BN2 and the four speed box, this should be great. I know you've balanced the crank and flywheel, but I still think shaving about 7-10 kilos off the flywheel is probably a good idea. Your BN2 is quite light so it doesn't need all that weight. For my A90, however, it's different story! One small note - be sure to clean the overpaint off the surfaces where gaskets will mate to the block. If not, the gaskets, no matter how they are treated, will likely leak over time. Been driving my Jag Mk IX for the last few months. Lovely car, fast & THIRSTY! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Thu Nov 5 00:34:06 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:34:06 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 Message-ID: <44AC79AC389B42B3A01C8B1170FA5C54@tm> I just thought to start a new thread here - what are the positive and negative effects of lightening the flywheel on a BN2? Positive: - reves up quicker - lighter car Negative: - more strain on the 3 loong stroke bearing engine - torque can be messed up? Anyone could comment here?? Best, tadek From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Thu Nov 5 01:36:37 2009 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:36:37 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild In-Reply-To: <7D0AE551CAB64C7EAFA02E7BE6D56184@tm> References: <7D0AE551CAB64C7EAFA02E7BE6D56184@tm> Message-ID: Tadek Just one comment. Did you check that the sump gasket had holes in it where these should line up with those in the block. In particular the one just outboard of the oil strainer return pipe. There were in the past gaskets around without this hole and this might cause the oil pressure relief valve not open correctly. A higher than comfortable oil pressure can then happen with possible damage to the oil pump. I have seen one example of excessive oil pressure lead to a sheared oil pump drive. Regards > > >I am rebuilding my 100 engine, and thought I would share some pictures with >you - I am looking for any comments what's not correct.. > -- John Harper From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 02:03:01 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:03:01 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 In-Reply-To: <44AC79AC389B42B3A01C8B1170FA5C54@tm> References: <44AC79AC389B42B3A01C8B1170FA5C54@tm> Message-ID: Tadek - At 45 lbs, there is no downside to lightening the flywheel. You need that mass if you a driving a truck or lorry, but for the little half aluminum 100, there is no need for all that mass. It won't affect your torque hardly at all, and your revs will be much punchier. In addition you'll have less rotating mass which will make your car more stable and handle much better through the turns and panic stops. There is almost no downside. If you are putting a DW head on your 100, you should put a lighter flywheel. I like the idea of the BJ8 clutch too... good idea. Wish I could put it on my BN1. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Nov 5 02:34:11 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:34:11 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4AF29C13.6050504@chello.nl> It is just what could have been expected. I am sure it is more or less the same story in EU. It is just the financial gain, not the environment, that people are interrested in. What does help is to raise the price of fuel substantially and/or attack the manufacturers with proper legislation setting adequate milage figures and adapt those regularly. Both have had some effect over here, but it could have been better. Normal cars doing around 45mls/US gallon (petrol) on average are fairly common, (Ctroen C1, Toyota Aygo/Yaris, Peugeot 107, Honda Civic, Renault Megane,). Diesel powered cars can do around 70mls/USgallon on average and some can reach 90mls/US gallon, (VW Lupo, Audi A2, Peugeot 307, Renault Clio). These are real figures supplied by consumers, not the industry.These figures are from cars from 2 up to 10 years old. Kees Oudesluijs NL Sales at " Just Brits " schreef: > This is just UNREAL (car related but non LBC): > > Clunker program: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ > ap_on_bi_ge/us_cash_for_clunkers > > or > > *http://tinyurl.com/yljgbgw > > Ed > * > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Nov 5 02:38:56 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:38:56 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4AF29D30.8010901@chello.nl> Alan, What else would you expect from politicians, ANY politicians. The most unreliable sort of our species. Kees Oudesluijs NL Alan Seigrist schreef: > I never understood why you would take taxes from hardworking Americans and > then give it to a small handful of other Amercans to go and buy a new car? > It was the most retarded government program I have heard of yet. By the > way, the real purpose of the program had nothing to do with the > environment. > > The purpose of the program was to artificially boost US GDP in 2Q, which > then those figures were published a week ago, conveniently a week before the > interim elections in NY, VA and NJ to help sway opinions that the "stimulus" > package was working and theoretically boosted GDP in 2Q to a fantasy 3.5% > growth rate, in theory showing that the Democrats were really making things > better. Most of Wall street had connected the dots already and discounted > the 2Q 3.5% GDP growth rate and tied it directly to the cash for clunkers, > not the Stimulus. > > I guess the strategy didn't work very well, but I'm just furious that these > jerks on the Hill think it's ok to use our tax money to try to sway > elections and buy votes, oh but I guess I should know better... > > Alan From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Thu Nov 5 04:04:49 2009 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:04:49 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers In-Reply-To: <471534970911040717h502195b9u6bfc5298b107cdff@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AF173AA.1080008@comcast.net> <471534970911040717h502195b9u6bfc5298b107cdff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: G'day Jody With your connection with Australia you would know it's not the flying kangaroos that you have to worry about, but be very careful of the bears as they drop from the trees. Many people have resorted to wearing head protection, especially when walking under magpie nests. It's when the koalas jump on the backs of magpies and swoop at passersby, that really is a worry. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn The large island west of New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jody Kerr Sent: Thursday, 5 November 2009 2:17 AM To: Reinhart Rosner (aon) Cc: Kent McLean; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers "Agatha and I are so much interested in Australia. It must be so pretty will all the dear little kangaroos flying about. Agatha has found it on the map. What a curious shape it is! Just like a large packing case." --every time I hear a silly conversation about Australia that pops into my head. Jody -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as p_cquinn at tpg.com.au http://www.team.net/archive From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Thu Nov 5 04:12:44 2009 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:12:44 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <70E78711290D459198AE37201F7973DB@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day A few years back we had a mouse plague in certain parts of Australia. Have a look at: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/447420/worlds_worst_mouse_plague/ Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Living on a South Pacific jewel. From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu Nov 5 06:09:13 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:09:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <001601ca5e19$2c77ea10$8567be30$@net> And, on the news last night -- Fox and CNN it was reported that the 650,000 jobs "created" includes people already working who got raises so that number is greatly inflated. What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but statisticians do -- or something like that. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:36 PM To: sales at justbrits.com Cc: 4 - Spridgets; 4 - Jensen-Cars; 4 - Healeys; 4 - MG List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working I never understood why you would take taxes from hardworking Americans and then give it to a small handful of other Amercans to go and buy a new car? It was the most retarded government program I have heard of yet. By the way, the real purpose of the program had nothing to do with the environment. The purpose of the program was to artificially boost US GDP in 2Q, which then those figures were published a week ago, conveniently a week before the interim elections in NY, VA and NJ to help sway opinions that the "stimulus" package was working and theoretically boosted GDP in 2Q to a fantasy 3.5% growth rate, in theory showing that the Democrats were really making things better. Most of Wall street had connected the dots already and discounted the 2Q 3.5% GDP growth rate and tied it directly to the cash for clunkers, not the Stimulus. I guess the strategy didn't work very well, but I'm just furious that these jerks on the Hill think it's ok to use our tax money to try to sway elections and buy votes, oh but I guess I should know better... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Sales at " Just Brits " wrote: > This is just UNREAL (car related but non LBC): > > Clunker program: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ > ap_on_bi_ge/us_cash_for_clunkers > > or > > *http://tinyurl.com/yljgbgw > > Ed Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive From robertlarson at att.net Thu Nov 5 07:21:18 2009 From: robertlarson at att.net (Bob) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:21:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: <001601ca5e19$2c77ea10$8567be30$@net> References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> <001601ca5e19$2c77ea10$8567be30$@net> Message-ID: <4AF2DF5E.90504@att.net> Wasn't the quote, " Statistics don't lie but politicians always do.". Bob Also in corruption capital, NJ John Sims wrote: > And, on the news last night -- Fox and CNN it was reported that the 650,000 > jobs "created" includes people already working who got raises so that number > is greatly inflated. What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but > statisticians do -- or something like that. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ From michael at mcassociatesinc.com Thu Nov 5 07:39:38 2009 From: michael at mcassociatesinc.com (Michael Couch) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:39:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Carpet Set Message-ID: <8E3BD6FF9ACE4022AAD23ED6837DF6E2@MCOUCHOFFICE> Need help on a bonehead move . . . . Just found out that I ordered the wrong BN2 red carpet kit last year during a Moss sale. I ordered the BN1 set by mistake and they won't take the return a year later. I thought I'd offer it to anyone on the list who might need it before I go the eBay route. Call or email if you're interested. Big discount. 412-952-9036, Michael at mcassociatesinc.com Don't tell my wife. Mike Couch Pittsburgh BN2 AN2 AN7 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Nov 5 07:48:56 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:48:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay In-Reply-To: <4AF26CBF.5040904@att.net> References: <4AF2255E.9020900@sasktel.net> <997B12CFDFEC4BA594EC3F6746B15644@GregPC> <4AF26CBF.5040904@att.net> Message-ID: On my first drive in a RHD car ... driving my purchase to the garage for the safety inspection ... I got cut off by a cab. I hadn't driven a manual shift in about 10 years but the instinctual response was perfect. Found the brake and clutch pedal without thinking and rammed my right hand into the door looking for the shifter. Okay ... 2 out of 3 was perfect. :) Never a problem after that though. Robert D. '55 BN1 '65 RHD Sprite '67 RHD Midget > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:12:15 -0500 > > For fun try jumping between some of the old and new Brit motorcycles, > right or left foot shift and is 1st gear up or down? > > To this day and on my '06 Triumph I still, especially in an unexpected > situation, have gotten it wrong and try to down shift with the right > foot and have locked the rear wheel brake. I originally learned ( > 1947 Ariel ) and for many years rode right foot shifters and my > learned response is wrong! > > Bob > > 55BN1 > 60 Matchless > 65 Royal Enfield > 79 Triumph > 06 Triumph > > Greg Lemon wrote: > > > > I even drove a 5 speed modern car as my daily driver and switched back > > and forth no problems. As was mentioned a short time ago on the list > > the RHD version has the same box, but does have a funky shift lever to > > accomodate the severe left hand mount of the remote mechanism on the > > BN1 box. > > > > Greg Lemon From Awgertoo at aol.com Thu Nov 5 07:49:36 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:49:36 EST Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers Message-ID: In a message dated 11/5/2009 7:29:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, p_cquinn at tpg.com.au writes: Patrick Quinn The large island west of New Zealand I hear that the Kiwi's have three names for these islands: 1. North Island 2. South Island 3. Mouth Island Best--Michael Oritt From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Nov 5 07:56:22 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:56:22 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: <001601ca5e19$2c77ea10$8567be30$@net> References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> <001601ca5e19$2c77ea10$8567be30$@net> Message-ID: <4AF2E796.3070900@chello.nl> Well, they may not lie but can have different interpretations to suit all parties. The conclusion is the same though, be very wary of them and do not believe them first hand. Do your own researches first. Kees Oudesluijs NL John Sims schreef: > And, on the news last night -- Fox and CNN it was reported that the 650,000 > jobs "created" includes people already working who got raises so that number > is greatly inflated. What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but > statisticians do -- or something like that. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Nov 5 07:57:36 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:57:36 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: <4AF29C13.6050504@chello.nl> References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> <4AF29C13.6050504@chello.nl> Message-ID: But ... who gets the money from the increased price of fuel? Why not "just" legislate the "adequate mileage"? > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:34:11 +0100 > > It is just what could have been expected. I am sure it is more or less > the same story in EU. It is just the financial gain, not the > environment, that people are interrested in. What does help is to raise > the price of fuel substantially and/or attack the manufacturers with > proper legislation setting adequate milage figures and adapt those > regularly. Both have had some effect over here, but it could have been > better. > ... > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > > Sales at " Just Brits " schreef: > > This is just UNREAL (car related but non LBC): > > > > Clunker program: > > > > *http://tinyurl.com/yljgbgw > > > > Ed From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Nov 5 08:13:16 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:13:16 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: <4AF29D30.8010901@chello.nl> References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: I'm fairly ignorant on these issues, but I thought the idea was to get money moving when people were being cautious, as well as saving jobs. Every time a dollar moves ... ( I'm sure you'll be shocked to hear this ) ... it's taxed. So, someone buys a car, and the gov't gets sales tax, the car salesman and dealership earn money and pay income tax, the car gets plated, insurance gets upgraded, the insurance company pays more income tax, the car salesman spends his extra money and pays sales tax and the person who sold him that "something" pays more income tax and spends his extra money ... The new car owner will probably spend some more money on his new "investment" for loving care that he wasn't providing for on his clunker ... new floor mats, wax, etc. He probably signed on for scheduled dealer maintenance for a while too, so he pays sales tax and the dealer makes more money and pays tax ... I think that the idea was to get the dollars moving. The taxpayer probably didn't really pay anything, though they probably did front the money. Robert D. > > I never understood why you would take taxes from hardworking Americans and > > then give it to a small handful of other Amercans to go and buy a new car? ... > > > > Alan From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Nov 5 08:26:14 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:26:14 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: <001601ca5e19$2c77ea10$8567be30$@net> References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: There are some statistics quotes here: http://www.quotegarden.com/statistics.html Some are kinda funny, like this one: Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. ~Aaron Levenstein > And, on the news last night -- Fox and CNN it was reported that the 650,000 > jobs "created" includes people already working who got raises so that number > is greatly inflated. What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but > statisticians do -- or something like that. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 09:05:06 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:05:06 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] questions about restoration process Message-ID: <173126440911050805t42c6aca8x74f583ca320e8b6e@mail.gmail.com> Not sure this made it to the list. If it did, I guess I see where I rate. Dryer sheets have generated more bandwith than my request. At least I'm not lower than dirt, just lower than mice droppings :0 cheers. Any help would be great Hello all, After only 35 years I am about to embark on getting the rust repaired on my car. The auto shop teacher at school has proposed letting him do the repairs. he has extensive experience with roadsters and race cars. I sent him a link to kilmartin's exploded view of chassis and body panel sto acquaint him with the car. he has seen it many times... So my questions... We are going to pull the engine/tranny to detail them and the engine compartment. is it better to do the fenders and inner wings with the engine in or out? I also need to repair/replace the door striker panels and possibly a rocker panel plus whatever we find when we get into it. Should the fender bottoms and rear dog legs be repairs on the car or should they be removed? I will check the archives for info on engine paint info, but if someone wanted to chime in I'd be Ok with that :) What else do I need to look out for? Also, I want to replace my BT7 clutch assembly with a BJ series, what do I need? I have a lightened flywheel on my car now. I believe I need to replace it, or does someone have a pattern for re-drilling it to accept the BJ parts? There a couple of NOS front fenders on EBAY for 1K delivered. Is it beter to repair known fitting parts or just go with new? lastly, Bought Gary and Rogers restoration book, found a copy fro $40.00 delivered. My friend is a great body guy, just never worked on a Healey before.. I live in Portland, Oregon, so If anyone wants to stop by and lend a hand, I'll buy the beer and a meal. Although the beer will have to wait until after we leave school grounds.... I am looking for a nice steetable car, not a show car. I only paid $500.00 for the car, so its hard to recalibrate my thinking about how much these toys are worth...I just want to drive a nice looking car to match how well it runs. -- I Erbs Portland, OR From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Nov 5 09:27:23 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:27:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4AF2FCEB.4040502@comcast.net> From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 09:50:33 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:50:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] misc rubber stuff Message-ID: <173126440911050850h55a486f1obb3f58e2d89726ec@mail.gmail.com> been looking at Norm Nock's catalog, and Moss Motor's site, but could not locate a bag of rubber bits such as, windscreen grommets and bottom rubber, firewall grommets, dash ends where it meet the doors, the rubber under the boot lock handle, light rubbers, etc. Is there an all inclusive kit, or must I look for each type of kit. I have seen a firewall kit, but again, not a whole car. 59 BT7 center shift. -- I Erbs Portland, OR From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Nov 5 09:53:07 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:53:07 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> <4AF29C13.6050504@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4AF302F3.7090608@chello.nl> The goverment will cash the surplus (taxes) on the fuel to fund, you may hope, health care and other usefull services to the public whom they supposedly serve. Kees Oudesluijs NL robertduquette at sympatico.ca schreef: > But ... who gets the money from the increased price of fuel? Why not "just" > legislate the "adequate mileage"? > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:34:11 +0100 >> >> It is just what could have been expected. I am sure it is more or less >> the same story in EU. It is just the financial gain, not the >> environment, that people are interrested in. What does help is to raise >> the price of fuel substantially and/or attack the manufacturers with >> proper legislation setting adequate milage figures and adapt those >> regularly. Both have had some effect over here, but it could have been >> better. >> >> > ... > > >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL >> >> >> >> Sales at " Just Brits " schreef: >> >>> This is just UNREAL (car related but non LBC): >>> >>> Clunker program: >>> >>> *http://tinyurl.com/yljgbgw >>> >>> Ed >>> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.50/2481 - Release Date: 11/04/09 19:51:00 From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Thu Nov 5 09:55:51 2009 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:55:51 EST Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay Message-ID: I also have a very early BN1, with the stock 3 speed and from the first time I drove it, it felt comfortable and not at all daunting. Not sure why, but it never presented a problem either physically or mentally. It just felt "right" and natural. It's just a little tight in the legroom department, but I agree that it really adds to the charm of my car. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 11/4/2009 9:33:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, glemon at neb.rr.com writes: "You are correct. The only thing for most the shift pattern for North Americans is a bit screwy ;-) Regards Ed Saskatoon" You are right, but I have to say I am certainly not the most dextorous guy in the world and the reverse pattern three speed on the BN1 box never really caused me any problems, it is admittedly an archaic gearbox with weak synchros and probably not overly strong period, but I always felt it was part of the unique charm of the car, and worked pretty well with the O/D and broad torque band of the motor. I did shop around until I found a good used stock shift ball which had not been worn so much that you couldn't paint the shift pattern back on it. I even drove a 5 speed modern car as my daily driver and switched back and forth no problems. As was mentioned a short time ago on the list the RHD version has the same box, but does have a funky shift lever to accomodate the severe left hand mount of the remote mechanism on the BN1 box. Greg Lemon Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as atightprod at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Nov 5 10:09:34 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:09:34 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: <4AF302F3.7090608@chello.nl> References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> <4AF29C13.6050504@chello.nl> <4AF302F3.7090608@chello.nl> Message-ID: Weren't you the guy who said this a few minutes ago? :) " What else would you expect from politicians, ANY politicians. The most unreliable sort of our species. " I don't like SIN taxes. I'm not of the attitude that I should be punished financially and be allowed to do something that's "bad". It's either wrong ... so ban it or make it criminal, or it's not wrong, so they should get their hand out of my pocket. What are they saying? "It's bad to burn fuel, but to ease your conscience, give us more money!" That just doesn't work for me! > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:53:07 +0100 > > The goverment will cash the surplus (taxes) on the fuel to fund, you may > hope, health care and other usefull services to the public whom they > supposedly serve. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From edriver at sasktel.net Thu Nov 5 10:17:44 2009 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:17:44 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF308B8.60406@sasktel.net> From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Thu Nov 5 10:23:11 2009 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:23:11 EST Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay Message-ID: Ed, No, your friends were totally correct, it is a bit "screwy" and why it feels so comfortable is a mystery to me, but from day one, it did. Steven In a message dated 11/5/2009 9:18:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, edriver at sasktel.net writes: Hi Steven My comment was a quote of friends who tried my BN1 I have never had a problem. Kind regards Ed Saskatoon _ATIGHTPROD at aol.com_ (mailto:ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) wrote: I also have a very early BN1, with the stock 3 speed and from the first time I drove it, it felt comfortable and not at all daunting. Not sure why, but it never presented a problem either physically or mentally. It just felt "right" and natural. It's just a little tight in the legroom department, but I agree that it really adds to the charm of my car. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 11/4/2009 9:33:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, _glemon at neb.rr.com_ (mailto:glemon at neb.rr.com) writes: "You are correct. The only thing for most the shift pattern for North Americans is a bit screwy ;-) Regards Ed Saskatoon" You are right, but I have to say I am certainly not the most dextorous guy in the world and the reverse pattern three speed on the BN1 box never really caused me any problems, it is admittedly an archaic gearbox with weak synchros and probably not overly strong period, but I always felt it was part of the unique charm of the car, and worked pretty well with the O/D and broad torque band of the motor. I did shop around until I found a good used stock shift ball which had not been worn so much that you couldn't paint the shift pattern back on it. I even drove a 5 speed modern car as my daily driver and switched back and forth no problems. As was mentioned a short time ago on the list the RHD version has the same box, but does have a funky shift lever to accomodate the severe left hand mount of the remote mechanism on the BN1 box. Greg Lemon _Healeys at autox.team.net_ (mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net) _http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys_ (http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys) You are subscribed as _atightprod at aol.com_ (mailto:atightprod at aol.com) _http://www.team.net/archive_ (http://www.team.net/archive) From buhler at memphisassociates.com Thu Nov 5 10:31:58 2009 From: buhler at memphisassociates.com (Jon Buhler) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:31:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems Message-ID: <69cde2b28cba4c51a17b311e72e25eb9@memphisassociates.com> Fellows, this may have been addressed many times, but I have just experienced the problem. Under acceleration, the engine bucks and coughs but runs fine once up to speed. Plugs are clean, dashpot oil OK, PerTronix ignition system, engine warmed up and jets adjusted according to specs. Sure would appreciate your thoughts. Jon From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Thu Nov 5 10:36:18 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:36:18 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <001501ca5e3e$7c452510$74cf6f30$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> It's called the "Multiplier Effect" or at least it was many years ago when I studied economics. It works on both sides of the economy....I spend 10, say, pounds at Joe's Emporium which enables Joe to spend, say, eight ponds at Fred's which enables Fred to spend, say, seven at..... It's supposed to work like that. The UK's Bank of England has just announced another round of "Quantative Easing" (printing money) which is supposedly a stimulus to liquidity. Perhaps the idea is that, if I spend a billion pounds at Joe's Emporium, Joe can.......but on a population wide basis. Mind you, it's my money they're printing and diluting... (I think most of my first year's studies came out of a book by a guy called Samuelson which probably dates me somewhat!) -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sent: 05 November 2009 15:13 To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working I'm fairly ignorant on these issues, but I thought the idea was to get money moving when people were being cautious, as well as saving jobs. Every time a dollar moves ... ( I'm sure you'll be shocked to hear this ) ... it's taxed. So, someone buys a car, and the gov't gets sales tax, the car salesman and dealership earn money and pay income tax, the car gets plated, insurance gets upgraded, the insurance company pays more income tax, the car salesman spends his extra money and pays sales tax and the person who sold him that "something" pays more income tax and spends his extra money ... The new car owner will probably spend some more money on his new "investment" for loving care that he wasn't providing for on his clunker ... new floor mats, wax, etc. He probably signed on for scheduled dealer maintenance for a while too, so he pays sales tax and the dealer makes more money and pays tax ... I think that the idea was to get the dollars moving. The taxpayer probably didn't really pay anything, though they probably did front the money. From pieters at pt.lu Thu Nov 5 11:37:35 2009 From: pieters at pt.lu (Pieter and Linda) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:37:35 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems In-Reply-To: <69cde2b28cba4c51a17b311e72e25eb9@memphisassociates.com> References: <69cde2b28cba4c51a17b311e72e25eb9@memphisassociates.com> Message-ID: <996ED8AB-FE98-4AAC-BFBC-B33ED724B9B7@pt.lu> Faulty or leaking vacuum advance? Pieter On 05/11/2009, at 6:31 PM, Jon Buhler wrote: > Fellows, this may have been addressed many times, but I have just > experienced > the problem. Under acceleration, the engine bucks and coughs but > runs fine > once up to speed. > Plugs are clean, dashpot oil OK, PerTronix ignition system, > engine warmed up and jets adjusted according to specs. Sure would > appreciate > your thoughts. > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as pieters at pt.lu > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 11:40:35 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:40:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 center shift carpet kit Message-ID: <173126440911051040o4e7f8d68mb4dc1ca92553e72b@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I too confess bought the wrong carpet kit fro my car. It is for a center shift and i have a side shifter. never thought to ask before I bought it... It was a slightly used kit. Paid 100.00 plus shipping, will resell for the 100.00 if anyone want sit. you have to pay fro shipping. will send photos. black carpet -- I Erbs Portland, OR From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Nov 5 12:03:53 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:03:53 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working, no car content In-Reply-To: References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> <4AF29C13.6050504@chello.nl> <4AF302F3.7090608@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4AF32199.9010604@chello.nl> That is why you may hope!!! It is not bad to burn fuel but one should use our resources as sparingly as possible, decrease production, increase prices and damn the economy. Leave something for the rest of mankind, incl. our children. Kees Oudesluijs robertduquette at sympatico.ca schreef: > Weren't you the guy who said this a few minutes ago? > " > > What else would you expect from politicians, ANY politicians. > The most unreliable sort of our species. > > " > I don't like SIN taxes. I'm not of the attitude that I should be punished > financially and be allowed to do something that's "bad". It's either wrong > ... so ban it or make it criminal, or it's not wrong, so they should get their > hand out of my pocket. What are they saying? "It's bad to burn fuel, but to > ease your conscience, give us more money!" That just doesn't work for me! > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:53:07 +0100 >> >> The goverment will cash the surplus (taxes) on the fuel to fund, you may >> hope, health care and other usefull services to the public whom they >> supposedly serve. >> Kees Oudesluijs From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Thu Nov 5 12:38:46 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:38:46 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Message-ID: <1216267764BE469885E6C1400D18289C@tm> Just added some more pictures with the head and water pump... http://picasaweb.google.com/Volvo1800S/HealeyEngine# Also, the incredible work my body shop did to my oil pan... Tadek From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Thu Nov 5 12:46:29 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:46:29 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4555196C15884C178F02349461822139@tm> Well, Is there anyone than that can tell me precisely where to shave it?.. I assume it might be easier than finding a BJ8 wheel, especially that it might not quite fit the mechanical clutch.. BTW, what's the advantage of the BJ8 clutch? Tadek _____ From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:03 AM To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 Tadek - At 45 lbs, there is no downside to lightening the flywheel. You need that mass if you a driving a truck or lorry, but for the little half aluminum 100, there is no need for all that mass. It won't affect your torque hardly at all, and your revs will be much punchier. In addition you'll have less rotating mass which will make your car more stable and handle much better through the turns and panic stops. There is almost no downside. If you are putting a DW head on your 100, you should put a lighter flywheel. I like the idea of the BJ8 clutch too... good idea. Wish I could put it on my BN1. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Nov 5 12:55:51 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems In-Reply-To: <69cde2b28cba4c51a17b311e72e25eb9@memphisassociates.com> Message-ID: <1788289652.4682911257450951496.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Sounds like fuel delivery (acceleration requires more fuel than steady cruise). bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Buhler" To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2009 9:31:58 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems Fellows, this may have been addressed many times, but I have just experienced the problem. Under acceleration, the engine bucks and coughs but runs fine once up to speed. Plugs are clean, dashpot oil OK, PerTronix ignition system, engine warmed up and jets adjusted according to specs. Sure would appreciate your thoughts. Jon _______________________________________________ From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Thu Nov 5 13:10:21 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:10:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] E bay Message-ID: Does anyone know if you can block certain sellers on e-bay when you do a search? There are about 5000 mufflers, ant., car covers, etc. listed by car parts wholesale when you search Austin Healey. Very annoying! The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 13:21:22 2009 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:21:22 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working Message-ID: <48720d20911051221r71a2493co8d3b222f16cec372@mail.gmail.com> How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips are moving. I thought the expression was "lies, damn lies, and statistics. Jack From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 13:22:13 2009 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:22:13 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] questions about restoration process In-Reply-To: <173126440911050805t42c6aca8x74f583ca320e8b6e@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911050805t42c6aca8x74f583ca320e8b6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4e23c7250911051222o74d6ee4cv1b8b5d3246ad7d8e@mail.gmail.com> I can explain why you did not receive any answer to your questions: you asked too many questions in one message, and moreover the answers on most questions will be rather lengthy. Let me try to put it short: If your friend has never worked on a Healey before I am afraid he will be in for a large number of very unpleasant surprises. I worked on my car together with a professional restorer, me doing the stupid and simple work and he doing the welding and grinding and even for him, with over 20 years experience and a lot of Healeys that passed through his hands, it was a difficult job. Have a look at the pictures I made during the work at http://picasaweb.google.nl/j.aeckerlin and you may understand that bodywork on a Healey is a nightmare. Adjust the doors with the engine + tranny in the car or you won't get the seams right. (On my car i had a brand new frame of heavier gauge steel than normal, so we did it with the engine out). When replacing the rocker panels either hang the doors (when they are still ok) first and align the rocker panel with the door. If you have to replace the door's bottom part fit the rocker panel first and make the door to suit. If you paid 500 bucks for your car I think you will end up with quite some more parts to renew than you think! Nevertheless: Good luck! Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/5 I Erbs Not sure this made it to the list. If it did, I guess I see where I rate. > > Any help would be great > > The auto shop teacher at school has proposed letting him do the repairs. he > has extensive experience with roadsters and race cars. . > We are going to pull the engine/tranny to detail them and the engine > compartment. is it better to do the fenders and inner wings with the engine > in or out? I also need to repair/replace the door striker panels and > possibly a rocker panel plus whatever we find when we get into it. Should > the fender bottoms and rear dog legs be repairs on the car or should they > be > removed? > > My friend is a great body guy, just never worked on a Healey before.. From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 13:27:58 2009 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:27:58 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: <001601ca5e19$2c77ea10$8567be30$@net> References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> <001601ca5e19$2c77ea10$8567be30$@net> Message-ID: <4e23c7250911051227t1e8864e3r766f6a7593a7a7c3@mail.gmail.com> John, "There are lies, bloody lies, and statistics" is what we say over here. Regards, Jack Aeckerlin 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/5 John Sims > What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but > statisticians do -- or something like that. > > John Sims, BN6 > > > From bernard.johnsen at ngc.com Thu Nov 5 14:04:20 2009 From: bernard.johnsen at ngc.com (Johnsen, Bernard F (AS)) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:04:20 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems In-Reply-To: <1788289652.4682911257450951496.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <69cde2b28cba4c51a17b311e72e25eb9@memphisassociates.com> <1788289652.4682911257450951496.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <212DD23A1FC4D74BA8265F76926DF1200A54EE@XMBIL101.northgrum.com> Sounds like fuel delivery (acceleration requires more fuel than steady cruise). I don't think it is a fuel delivery to the carburetor problem. The float bowls take care of immediate fuel needs. A weak fuel pump or clogged fuel filter would evidence themselves by the car being able to accelerate to a certain speed (by consuming fuel already in the float bowls) but not being able to maintain that speed (because fuel was being consumed faster than the float bowls could refill). On the other hand, it could be lack of sufficient fuel delivery between the carbs and the combustion chambers. - Bernie Johnsen 1967 BJ8 From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Nov 5 14:09:42 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:09:42 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40726A9C-3E69-430D-BDD7-FCA256C07729@cox.net> What if a muffler seller is also selling a whole car? What you want to do is use the "advanced search" options to list terms that you don't want to see. Make sure you only search titles and not descriptions. Wilko San Diego On Nov 5, 2009, at 12:10 PM, S and T Miller wrote: > Does anyone know if you can block certain sellers on e-bay when you > do a > search? There are about 5000 mufflers, ant., car covers, etc. > listed by car > parts wholesale when you search Austin Healey. Very annoying! From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Nov 5 14:10:51 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:10:51 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF33F5B.6060908@chello.nl> Go to the advanced search option and make your choices. Kees Oudesluijs NL S and T Miller schreef: > Does anyone know if you can block certain sellers on e-bay when you do a > search? There are about 5000 mufflers, ant., car covers, etc. listed by car > parts wholesale when you search Austin Healey. Very annoying! > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M > FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.50/2481 - Release Date: 11/04/09 19:51:00 From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Nov 5 14:29:09 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:29:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems In-Reply-To: <212DD23A1FC4D74BA8265F76926DF1200A54EE@XMBIL101.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <2103527227.4722101257456549675.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> re: "The float bowls take care of immediate fuel needs" Huh? Are you saying everything will be fine until the float bowls empty out? Carburetors--excepting the pressure type--require a constant fuel level in the float bowls (it's not like flushing a toilet ;). Remember, the level of the fuel in the jet is the same as the level in the float bowl. If the float bowl level is being reduced faster than than it can be replenished because of, say, a fuel delivery issue, you will be effectively running with an incorrect mixture until the float bowls catch up. I'm not sure which way the mixture will go, but since you'd be lowering the fuel level it would probably be equivalent to raising the vacuum piston, which produces a momentarily lean mixture (the 'traditional' way to test mixture on an SU carb). A lean mixture on acceleration would cause sputtering and coughing, which is why carburetors have a) accelerator pumps (constant venturi carbs) or b) vacuum piston damping fluid and springs (SU carbs). This is why getting the float levels set correctly is critical on any (non-pressure) carburetor, and why needle (or ball) valve operation is also critical. The proper operation of any carburetor is all about having a correct, constant fuel level in the float bowl(s) and all the other parts properly adjusted with respect to that level. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Sounds like fuel delivery (acceleration requires more fuel than steady cruise). I don't think it is a fuel delivery to the carburetor problem. The float bowls take care of immediate fuel needs. A weak fuel pump or clogged fuel filter would evidence themselves by the car being able to accelerate to a certain speed (by consuming fuel already in the float bowls) but not being able to maintain that speed (because fuel was being consumed faster than the float bowls could refill). On the other hand, it could be lack of sufficient fuel delivery between the carbs and the combustion chambers. - Bernie Johnsen 1967 BJ8 From Awgertoo at aol.com Thu Nov 5 14:29:51 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:29:51 EST Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working Message-ID: Can we move back to Healey stuff? Every so often we get side-tracked on political/economic issues (which we have agreed are not worth discussing) and I find them to be very tedious after a while. Enough please? Best--Michael Oritt From Awgertoo at aol.com Thu Nov 5 14:30:58 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:30:58 EST Subject: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 Message-ID: In a message dated 11/5/2009 3:35:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl writes: BTW, what's the advantage of the BJ8 clutch? It is a diaphragm clutch versus spring clutch and has a lighter action. Best--Michael Oritt From scvc70 at epix.net Thu Nov 5 14:33:54 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:33:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com><001601ca5e19$2c77ea10$8567be30$@net> <4e23c7250911051227t1e8864e3r766f6a7593a7a7c3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Attributed, accurately or otherwise, to both Benjamin Disraeli (19th century British prime minister) and Mark Twain (need I identify him?) -- "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damned lies, and statistics." Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaap Aeckerlin" To: "John Sims" ; "Healey forum" Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working > John, > "There are lies, bloody lies, and statistics" is what we say over here. > Regards, > Jack Aeckerlin > 1964 BJ8 29432 > > 2009/11/5 John Sims > > >> What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but >> statisticians do -- or something like that. >> >> John Sims, BN6 From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Thu Nov 5 14:34:57 2009 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:34:57 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" Message-ID: <2318860CDE6C43E19D6EEC49BF72CF32@LeonardPCPC> "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is part of a phrase attributed to the 19th Century British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, among others, and later popularized in the United States by, among others, Mark Twain: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." (Wikipedia) (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 15:00:43 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:00:43 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] questions about restoration process In-Reply-To: <4e23c7250911051222o74d6ee4cv1b8b5d3246ad7d8e@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911050805t42c6aca8x74f583ca320e8b6e@mail.gmail.com> <4e23c7250911051222o74d6ee4cv1b8b5d3246ad7d8e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <173126440911051400q65300b18x63dceb50be88af5e@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, just really looking for things to think about and solicit comments on whatever folks felt like chiming in on. 500.00 car 35 years ago bought a lot. The mechanicals have been completed, rebuilt engine/tranny/front suspension, rear springs/all shocks/wire harness/gauges/started/generator. new gas tank, rebuilt trafficator.restored front seats. have carpet kit. So it needs the typical rust repair bottom edge of all for fenders, some rust behind the fenders on the mounting bits of the frame. paint strip, prep and reshoot. rest of the interior and the top and bottom chrome of the grill. It's always an adventure. if it starts to go south, I can always get it fixed...... Thanks for the comments... Ira On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Jaap Aeckerlin wrote: > I can explain why you did not receive any answer to your questions: you > asked too many questions in one message, and moreover the answers on most > questions will be rather lengthy. Let me try to put it short: > If your friend has never worked on a Healey before I am afraid he will be > in for a large number of very unpleasant surprises. I worked on my car > together with a professional restorer, me doing the stupid and simple work > and he doing the welding and grinding and even for him, with over 20 years > experience and a lot of Healeys that passed through his hands, it was a > difficult job. Have a look at the pictures I made during the work at > http://picasaweb.google.nl/j.aeckerlin and you may understand that > bodywork on a Healey is a nightmare. > Adjust the doors with the engine + tranny in the car or you won't get the > seams right. (On my car i had a brand new frame of heavier gauge steel than > normal, so we did it with the engine out). > When replacing the rocker panels either hang the doors (when they are still > ok) first and align the rocker panel with the door. If you have to replace > the door's bottom part fit the rocker panel first and make the door to suit. > If you paid 500 bucks for your car I think you will end up with quite some > more parts to renew than you think! > Nevertheless: Good luck! > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > 1964 BJ8 29432 > > 2009/11/5 I Erbs > > Not sure this made it to the list. If it did, I guess I see where I rate. >> >> Any help would be great >> >> The auto shop teacher at school has proposed letting him do the repairs. >> he >> has extensive experience with roadsters and race cars. >> > . > >> We are going to pull the engine/tranny to detail them and the engine >> compartment. is it better to do the fenders and inner wings with the >> engine >> in or out? I also need to repair/replace the door striker panels and >> possibly a rocker panel plus whatever we find when we get into it. Should >> the fender bottoms and rear dog legs be repairs on the car or should they >> be >> removed? >> >> My friend is a great body guy, just never worked on a Healey before.. >> > > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 15:04:27 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:04:27 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] questions about restoration process In-Reply-To: <4e23c7250911051222o74d6ee4cv1b8b5d3246ad7d8e@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911050805t42c6aca8x74f583ca320e8b6e@mail.gmail.com> <4e23c7250911051222o74d6ee4cv1b8b5d3246ad7d8e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <173126440911051404l37cfa7c8tc27211317917ce98@mail.gmail.com> As I see from your photos, your car is far worse off than mine. As stated previously I,only need typical stuff repaired, you had a total frame up resto done. yes I agree, expert hand sonly on such a job. BTW I did work restoring healeys when I was in College. granted that was over 30 years ago... I On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Jaap Aeckerlin wrote: > I can explain why you did not receive any answer to your questions: you > asked too many questions in one message, and moreover the answers on most > questions will be rather lengthy. Let me try to put it short: > If your friend has never worked on a Healey before I am afraid he will be > in for a large number of very unpleasant surprises. I worked on my car > together with a professional restorer, me doing the stupid and simple work > and he doing the welding and grinding and even for him, with over 20 years > experience and a lot of Healeys that passed through his hands, it was a > difficult job. Have a look at the pictures I made during the work at > http://picasaweb.google.nl/j.aeckerlin and you may understand that > bodywork on a Healey is a nightmare. > Adjust the doors with the engine + tranny in the car or you won't get the > seams right. (On my car i had a brand new frame of heavier gauge steel than > normal, so we did it with the engine out). > When replacing the rocker panels either hang the doors (when they are still > ok) first and align the rocker panel with the door. If you have to replace > the door's bottom part fit the rocker panel first and make the door to suit. > If you paid 500 bucks for your car I think you will end up with quite some > more parts to renew than you think! > Nevertheless: Good luck! > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > 1964 BJ8 29432 > > 2009/11/5 I Erbs > > Not sure this made it to the list. If it did, I guess I see where I rate. >> >> Any help would be great >> >> The auto shop teacher at school has proposed letting him do the repairs. >> he >> has extensive experience with roadsters and race cars. >> > . > >> We are going to pull the engine/tranny to detail them and the engine >> compartment. is it better to do the fenders and inner wings with the >> engine >> in or out? I also need to repair/replace the door striker panels and >> possibly a rocker panel plus whatever we find when we get into it. Should >> the fender bottoms and rear dog legs be repairs on the car or should they >> be >> removed? >> >> My friend is a great body guy, just never worked on a Healey before.. >> > > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From bn1 at pacbell.net Thu Nov 5 15:35:26 2009 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:35:26 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 In-Reply-To: <4555196C15884C178F02349461822139@tm> References: <4555196C15884C178F02349461822139@tm> Message-ID: <4AF3532E.1020206@pacbell.net> Tadek, I bought mine from Bill Bolton in Cresswell, OR. tricarb at aol.com You can buy them either outright or exchange. It weighs 23 lbs. and has run fine for 30,000+ miles. The lightness causes no problem with the idle. I run it with the 3-speed and the mechanical clutch. Bill '53 Red Car ;-) Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > Well, > > > > Is there anyone than that can tell me precisely where to shave it?.. I > assume it might be easier than finding a BJ8 wheel, especially that it might > not quite fit the mechanical clutch.. > > > > BTW, what's the advantage of the BJ8 clutch? > > > > Tadek > > > > _____ > > From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:03 AM > To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 > > > > Tadek - > > At 45 lbs, there is no downside to lightening the flywheel. > > You need that mass if you a driving a truck or lorry, but for the little > half aluminum 100, there is no need for all that mass. It won't affect your > torque hardly at all, and your revs will be much punchier. > > In addition you'll have less rotating mass which will make your car more > stable and handle much better through the turns and panic stops. There is > almost no downside. If you are putting a DW head on your 100, you should > put a lighter flywheel. I like the idea of the BJ8 clutch too... good idea. > Wish I could put it on my BN1. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From rjswain at hotmail.com Thu Nov 5 15:41:08 2009 From: rjswain at hotmail.com (Rick Swain) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:41:08 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If by "after a while" you mean after the first posting I agree completely. Rick Swain'59 BN4 Can we move back to Healey stuff? Every so often we get side-tracked on > political/economic issues (which we have agreed are not worth discussing) and > I find them to be very tedious after a while. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691817 From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Thu Nov 5 15:46:12 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:46:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Nash Healey won online car show in PA Message-ID: Check out: http://www.whtm.com/news/stories/1109/675189.html The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&fi lt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9 ,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN _evergreen2:112009 From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Thu Nov 5 16:26:20 2009 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (Mirek Sharp) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:26:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] What thread?? References: <472631.84356.qm@web111409.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think that you are right Ray - that is what I determined when I did the windscreen on my BT7. I re-used the old screws where I could, using the best chrome in the places where they can be seen.. I cannot recall what I did for chasing the threads in the new brackets - I have a 4 BA tap and likely used that, but I do not seem have made any notes, so I cannot be sure. I would drill/tap a piece of scrap to check before working on the corner brackets. cheers, Mirek Ray Wrote: Hey guys, you know those little shallow angle flat head screws that hold the > corner brackets of a 100 windshield frame? What thread are they? From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Nov 5 16:27:40 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:27:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Nash Healey won online car show in PA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's like the one in the original Sabrina with Audrey Hepburn. On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:46 PM, S and T Miller wrote: > Check out: > http://www.whtm.com/news/stories/1109/675189.html > > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a > test > drive." > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&fi > lt > = > 200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000 > &cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9 > ,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en- > US:WWL_WIN > _evergreen2:112009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 16:30:28 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:30:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <173126440911051530g4e2c8ddeh87d62c0d7760754b@mail.gmail.com> cheers. On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:29 PM, wrote: > Can we move back to Healey stuff? Every so often we get side-tracked on > political/economic issues (which we have agreed are not worth discussing) > and > I find them to be very tedious after a while. > > Enough please? > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 17:12:48 2009 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:12:48 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Thanks Message-ID: <48720d20911051612q1522b953t7b4490c137829d3b@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to all who replied to my request for information on softener sheets, and animals in the wilds of Sydney. I didn't realize what I had started. Jack From ah53 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 5 17:34:59 2009 From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:34:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Carpet Set In-Reply-To: <8E3BD6FF9ACE4022AAD23ED6837DF6E2@MCOUCHOFFICE> Message-ID: <620665.89938.qm@web31508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mike Realize if you order the carpet kit from Moss it will not have the correct armacord for under and behind the seats. It will also not have the flap/door for the transmission dipstick. Don't ask how I know. Joe BN1 #923 Coronet Cream bn2 100M BJ8 The Blue Baby as per wife and kid --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Michael Couch wrote: From: Michael Couch Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Carpet Set To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 9:39 AM Need help on a bonehead move . . . . Just found out that I ordered the wrong BN2 red carpet kit last year during a Moss sale. I ordered the BN1 set by mistake and they won't take the return a year later. I thought I'd offer it to anyone on the list who might need it before I go the eBay route. Call or email if you're interested. Big discount. 412-952-9036, Michael at mcassociatesinc.com Don't tell my wife. Mike Couch Pittsburgh BN2 AN2 AN7 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ah53 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Thu Nov 5 17:43:31 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:43:31 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] E bay Message-ID: <8C32364BE3E7476AA5A000D9B5848C8A@tm> A typical search string in ebay for healey 100 that would exclude the sprites and books and Jensen Healey would be: healey (100, 100-4, 100/4, bn1, bn2) -(sprite, book*, "Jensen Healey") This means: Search for: - healey And - 100 or 100-4, or 100/4, or bn1, or bn2 Exclude: - sprite, - all words beginning with book - phrase "Jensen Healey" I am not sure how you can exclude a seller though... From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 18:14:27 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:14:27 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] step 1 project restore the beast Message-ID: <173126440911051714o49ba1b79rb46490692312729e@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to those who have REPLIED WITH WARNINGS AND SUPPORT. We got the car off the ground, removed the aluminum cover plates on the door opening. A bit of rust at the bottom of striker panel and the end of the bottom sill where they meet. driver side rear fender dogleg bottom bottom of driver side front fender, rust does not seem to have penetrated the frame sections. Passenger side (sorry LHD car) less on rear dogleg, but more on front fender. small area on striker panel bottom. Kilmartin products will fix fenders, the sill and striker panels should be able to be repaired without replacement. Norm Nock says he has the rubber bits and I will source the Kilmartin parts from him as well. Will try to call tomorrow. The rusted floorboards and trunk bottom have already been repaired. I need to source an interior kit minus front seats and carpets, any ideas out there? Black with black piping on rear seats. I am so excited!!! I have waited 35 years to finish my car. All mechanicals/suspension parts have been rebuilt or replaced. cheers, will post photos as they come -- I Erbs Portland, OR From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 18:18:28 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:18:28 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems In-Reply-To: <69cde2b28cba4c51a17b311e72e25eb9@memphisassociates.com> References: <69cde2b28cba4c51a17b311e72e25eb9@memphisassociates.com> Message-ID: Jon - What dashpot oil are you using? Should be 20 WT. Also does your car have the correct Dashpot springs? Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Jon Buhler wrote: > Fellows, this may have been addressed many times, but I have just > experienced > the problem. Under acceleration, the engine bucks and coughs but runs fine > once up to speed. > Plugs are clean, dashpot oil OK, PerTronix ignition system, > engine warmed up and jets adjusted according to specs. Sure would > appreciate > your thoughts. > > Jon From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 18:24:47 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:24:47 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My trick on that is to do an advanced search and subtract any listing with the word "suzuki" in it, it weeds out all that crap. The ebay search term is -suzuki . Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:10 AM, S and T Miller wrote: > Does anyone know if you can block certain sellers on e-bay when you do a > search? There are about 5000 mufflers, ant., car covers, etc. listed by > car > parts wholesale when you search Austin Healey. Very annoying! From glemon at neb.rr.com Thu Nov 5 19:18:27 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:18:27 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 In-Reply-To: <4555196C15884C178F02349461822139@tm> References: <4555196C15884C178F02349461822139@tm> Message-ID: <1C328C63F9B148DDBC5495324442F690@GregPC> I think the "ring" that extends out or back around the perimeter is a good start, I will see if I can find some pics of mine after the work was done. Greg Lemon From Healey100M at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 19:41:40 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:41:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rusty Chassis Message-ID: Check out ebay # 160375758282 A good candidate for a Jule or Kilmartin chassis? :-) But for $10K........ :-) No Thanks. Randy Randy Hicks 56 Brook St. Rehoboth, MA 02769 508-252-9295 Home 508-981-5113 Cell RandyHicks at comcast.net Healey100M at gmail.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 20:01:11 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:01:11 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Australians call the two islands to the east: "Not Australia" Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:49 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 11/5/2009 7:29:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > p_cquinn at tpg.com.au writes: > > Patrick Quinn > The large island west of New Zealand > > > I hear that the Kiwi's have three names for these islands: > > 1. North Island > 2. South Island > 3. Mouth Island > > Best--Michael Oritt From ynotink at msn.com Thu Nov 5 20:29:46 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:29:46 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: <4AF2DF5E.90504@att.net> References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Figures don't lie, but liars figure. > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:21:18 -0500 > From: robertlarson at att.net > To: ahbn6 at verizon.net > CC: '4 at autox.team.net; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working > > Wasn't the quote, " Statistics don't lie but politicians always do.". > > Bob > > Also in corruption capital, NJ > > John Sims wrote: > > And, on the news last night -- Fox and CNN it was reported that the 650,000 > > jobs "created" includes people already working who got raises so that number > > is greatly inflated. What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but > > statisticians do -- or something like that. > > > > John Sims, BN6 > > Aberdeen, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From pyoas at yahoo.com Thu Nov 5 20:35:33 2009 From: pyoas at yahoo.com (Patrick Yoas) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:35:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin Rocker Panels For Sale Message-ID: <137279.44930.qm@web112502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> About a year ago I bought a pair of Kilmartin Rocker Panels in anticipation of using them for my car. Long story short, I had to have a Jule frame because mine was in such bad shape and since the Jule frame comes with rocker panels on their kit I won't be needing them. I assume they fit all 6 cylinder cars. Contact me off list if interested? Patrick From sales at justbrits.com Thu Nov 5 20:39:36 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:39:36 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Rusty Chassis In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF39A78.3040001@justbrits.com> << A good candidate for a Jule or Kilmartin chassis? >> NOT at $9500, Randy !!! Otherwise, absolutely !!! Ed From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Thu Nov 5 21:22:23 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:22:23 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?BOOOGUS?= Message-ID: <20091106042223.28819.qmail@server278.com> a few days ago i discovered the little field mice or rats that live on the golf course behind the house had set up housekeeping in my barbeque. i cleaned it out and put out poison and traps, which they ignored and moved back in. after reading on the list about dryer sheets keeping out mice, i decided to give it a try. not only did they ignore the smell or whatever, they chewed up the dryer sheets and made a nest out of them. i rest my case. hjim From twillig at ruda.de Fri Nov 6 01:07:21 2009 From: twillig at ruda.de (Thomas Willig) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:07:21 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 In-Reply-To: <4AF3532E.1020206@pacbell.net> References: <4555196C15884C178F02349461822139@tm> <4AF3532E.1020206@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Hi Tadek, as said before the lightening of the standard 100 flywheel is the way to go. If necessary I can send you a picture of my lighned flywheel. Let me know. The lightening is a very straightforward job, any machine shop can do that. My only advise is to balance all the individual components of an engine separately. That means, apart from the crank and balancer, first the "shaved" flywheel should be balanced alone, then the clutch cover should be fitted and the balancing repeated, if necessary only "meat" from the clutch cover, not the flywheel, has to be removed. Doing it that way, you can chance components (like a new damper or race flywheel etc. etc.) at a later time without disturbing the balance of the whole assembly. Of course all newly added components have to be balanced separately before assembly. I did this individual balancing on another non-Healey engine, and the result is a very pleasant running engine. Best regards Thomas Willig -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Mr. Bill [mailto:bn1 at pacbell.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 23:35 An: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 Tadek, I bought mine from Bill Bolton in Cresswell, OR. tricarb at aol.com You can buy them either outright or exchange. It weighs 23 lbs. and has run fine for 30,000+ miles. The lightness causes no problem with the idle. I run it with the 3-speed and the mechanical clutch. Bill '53 Red Car ;-) Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > Well, > > > > Is there anyone than that can tell me precisely where to shave it?.. I > assume it might be easier than finding a BJ8 wheel, especially that it might > not quite fit the mechanical clutch.. > > > > BTW, what's the advantage of the BJ8 clutch? > > > > Tadek > > > > _____ > > From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:03 AM > To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 > > > > Tadek - > > At 45 lbs, there is no downside to lightening the flywheel. > > You need that mass if you a driving a truck or lorry, but for the little > half aluminum 100, there is no need for all that mass. It won't affect your > torque hardly at all, and your revs will be much punchier. > > In addition you'll have less rotating mass which will make your car more > stable and handle much better through the turns and panic stops. There is > almost no downside. If you are putting a DW head on your 100, you should > put a lighter flywheel. I like the idea of the BJ8 clutch too... good idea. > Wish I could put it on my BN1. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Nov 6 02:12:58 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:12:58 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: <8C32364BE3E7476AA5A000D9B5848C8A@tm> References: <8C32364BE3E7476AA5A000D9B5848C8A@tm> Message-ID: <4AF3E89A.3020203@chello.nl> You also have to take into account that people often misspell Healey as Healy and also use Austin-Healey. Kees Oudesluijs NL Tadeusz Malkiewicz schreef: > A typical search string in ebay for healey 100 that would exclude the > sprites and books and Jensen Healey would be: > > > > healey (100, 100-4, 100/4, bn1, bn2) -(sprite, book*, "Jensen Healey") > > > > This means: > > Search for: > - healey > And > - 100 or 100-4, or 100/4, or bn1, or bn2 > > > Exclude: > - sprite, > - all words beginning with book > - phrase "Jensen Healey" > > > > I am not sure how you can exclude a seller though... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2483 - Release Date: 11/05/09 19:52:00 From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Nov 6 06:51:27 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:51:27 EST Subject: [Healeys] E bay Message-ID: Keese-- You have it backwards: The proper spelling IS "Austin (Hyphen) Healey". Only when some badge supplier screwed up and the factory saw an opportunity to save some $$ by accepting badges that said "Austin (NO HYPHEN) Healey" did such a badge appear on an AH. Besides, the badges on all 100's are hyphenated and as we know 100's are the REAL Healeys. Best--Michael Oritt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/6/2009 5:01:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, coudesluijs at chello.nl writes: You also have to take into account that people often misspell Healey as Healy and also use Austin-Healey From ahy3000 at comcast.net Fri Nov 6 06:56:31 2009 From: ahy3000 at comcast.net (ahy3000 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] BOOOGUS In-Reply-To: <20091106042223.28819.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <1067998008.533731257515791353.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Oh, you bought the cheese-flavored dryer sheets! As with any suggestion - your mileage may vary - cav eat emptor! Burt Weiner '63 BJ7 HBJ7L/23582 ahy3000 at comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2009 11:22:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Healeys] BOOOGUS a few days ago i discovered the little field mice or rats that live on the golf course behind the house had set up housekeeping in my barbeque. i cleaned it out and put out poison and traps, which they ignored and moved back in. after reading on the list about dryer sheets keeping out mice, i decided to give it a try. not only did they ignore the smell or whatever, they chewed up the dryer sheets and made a nest out of them. i rest my case. hjim From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Nov 6 06:56:52 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:56:52 EST Subject: [Healeys] BOOOGUS Message-ID: In a message dated 11/6/2009 12:04:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, healeymanjim at hansencc.net writes: a few days ago i discovered the little field mice or rats that live on the golf course behind the house had set up housekeeping in my barbeque. ---------------------------------------------- Why didn't you simply turn on the BBQ? Best--Michael Oritt From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Nov 6 07:27:57 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:27:57 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF4326D.7020402@chello.nl> Michael, That is what I said: Austin-Healey (Austin hyphen Healey). May be the hyphen did/does not show in your message. Often signs get distorted in email. What I wanted to point out is that if you look for items on ebay for A-H, do not use only Healey, but also Healy (misspelling) and Austin-Healey which we all know is the correct name. If used without hyphen it is covered by Healey. I do not understand what you are saying. Real Healey's? That is another story. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs Awgertoo at aol.com schreef: > Keese-- > > You have it backwards: The proper spelling IS "Austin (Hyphen) Healey". > > Only when some badge supplier screwed up and the factory saw an > opportunity to save some $$ by accepting badges that said "Austin (NO > HYPHEN) Healey" did such a badge appear on an AH. > > Besides, the badges on all 100's are hyphenated and as we know 100's > are the REAL Healeys. > > Best--Michael Oritt > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You also have to take into account that people often misspell Healey as > > Healy and also use Austin-Healey From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 6 07:31:00 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:31:00 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BOOOGUS In-Reply-To: <20091106042223.28819.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091106042223.28819.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Have you considered turning on the BBQ? ;) > From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net > > a few days ago i discovered the little field mice or rats that live on the golf course behind the house had set up housekeeping in my barbeque. i cleaned it out and put out poison and traps, which they ignored and moved back in. after reading on the list about dryer sheets keeping out mice, i decided to give it a try. not only did they ignore the smell or whatever, they chewed up the dryer sheets and made a nest out of them. i rest my case. hjim From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Fri Nov 6 07:44:18 2009 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:44:18 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] California Healey on Ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002201ca5eef$9edfc420$dc9f4c60$@net> Check out the engine color: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220506127037&v iewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123 Ron From mgcharlie at comcast.net Fri Nov 6 08:32:13 2009 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:32:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BOOOGUS In-Reply-To: <1067998008.533731257515791353.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1067998008.533731257515791353.JavaMail.root@sz0043a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4AF4417D.1090009@comcast.net> I wonder if being outside has some effect rather than in the enclosed interior or trunk of a car? ahy3000 at comcast.net wrote: > Oh, you bought the cheese-flavored dryer sheets! As with any suggestion - your mileage may vary - cav eat emptor! > > > Burt Weiner > '63 BJ7 > HBJ7L/23582 > ahy3000 at comcast.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2009 11:22:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [Healeys] BOOOGUS > > a few days ago i discovered the little field mice or rats that live on the golf course behind the house had set up housekeeping in my barbeque. i cleaned it out and put out poison and traps, which they ignored and moved back in. after reading on the list about dryer sheets keeping out mice, i decided to give it a try. not only did they ignore the smell or whatever, they chewed up the dryer sheets and made a nest out of them. i rest my case. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Fri Nov 6 09:56:36 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:56:36 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Message-ID: <0E6A397FBD9A440182DCCCB547E87B1A@tm> There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam exchange??.. I wonder what will it go up to.. Best, Tadek From rnbmail at yahoo.com Fri Nov 6 10:47:39 2009 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:47:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems In-Reply-To: <996ED8AB-FE98-4AAC-BFBC-B33ED724B9B7@pt.lu> Message-ID: <876443.31641.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Pieter, One easy check ... Carb piston(s) may be sticking in the bell housing. Make sure that when the pistons are pushed up to the top of their range by finger and let go, they fall quickley to the carb body base with a hard bump sound when released. If they dont fall quickley and with a bump sound they are not fully free in the chamber there will be fluffy engine response when accelarating as friction is interefering with the vacuum. If the dash pots have been off recently, then it is easy to not align them accurately with screwing them back on - the pistons must be fully free to slide under down gravity. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Pieter and Linda wrote: > From: Pieter and Linda > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems > To: buhler at memphisassociates.com > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 10:37 AM > Faulty or leaking vacuum advance? > Pieter > On 05/11/2009, at 6:31 PM, Jon Buhler wrote: > > > Fellows, this may have been addressed many times, but > I have just experienced > > the problem. Under acceleration, the engine > bucks and coughs but runs fine > > once up to speed. > > Plugs are clean, dashpot oil OK, PerTronix ignition > system, > > engine warmed up and jets adjusted according to > specs. Sure would appreciate > > your thoughts. > > > > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as pieters at pt.lu > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From rnbmail at yahoo.com Fri Nov 6 10:54:14 2009 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:54:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] California Healey on Ebay In-Reply-To: <002201ca5eef$9edfc420$dc9f4c60$@net> Message-ID: <703684.31236.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Love the color - but not the engine ..... bit lighter than mine. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Ron Ray wrote: > From: Ron Ray > Subject: [Healeys] California Healey on Ebay > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 6:44 AM > Check out the engine color: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220506127037&v > iewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123 > > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Fri Nov 6 11:30:07 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:30:07 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: <0E6A397FBD9A440182DCCCB547E87B1A@tm> References: <0E6A397FBD9A440182DCCCB547E87B1A@tm> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF4F71@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Tadek, this is one of the rare Ms with a 3 speed gearbox. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Tadeusz Malkiewicz Gesendet: Freitag, 6. November 2009 17:57 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam exchange??.. I wonder what will it go up to.. Best, Tadek __________ From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Nov 6 11:31:12 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:31:12 EST Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Message-ID: Tadek-- Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so (just last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans ---------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/6/2009 12:31:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl writes: There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam exchange??.. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 6 12:18:42 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:18:42 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: though, it is being advertized as: "1956 Austin Healey 100M Factory car with Heritage certificate ,all numbers matching ,100 M Registry and California clear Title." > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so (just > last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had > apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. > > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans From robertlarson at att.net Fri Nov 6 12:39:53 2009 From: robertlarson at att.net (Bob) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:39:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF47B89.5020807@att.net> What was the great quote here years ago about the "M's"? Something like: Of the 600 built 1500 survive......... Bob Plain Jane 55 BN1 Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > Tadek-- > > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so (just > last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had > apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. > > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans > ---------------------------------------- From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Fri Nov 6 12:40:30 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:40:30 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1B217B23CF1041EEBC0A3089BE765AE6@tm> The current bid though is pretty high for an unfinished restoration... ________________________________________ From: Awgertoo at aol.com [mailto:Awgertoo at aol.com] Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 7:31 PM To: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Tadek-- Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so (just last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans ---------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/6/2009 12:31:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl writes: There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam exchange??.. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 6 13:05:33 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:05:33 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 3000 parts in NH Message-ID: NFI Austin Healey 3000 Body and car parts - $599 (Nashua NH.) ( no images) http://nh.craigslist.org/pts/1451892182.html shroud, fenders, Valve cover Aluminum finned From insptwo at msn.com Fri Nov 6 13:32:47 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:32:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Eurpoean request Message-ID: I have received a request from Portugal concerning an attempt to get new wheels for a 1969 Sprite. Is there anyone on the list, from Europe, that I can forward this email to who might be able to help this gentleman out. Bill BJ7 Healey-Marque Classified ads Mgr. From insptwo at msn.com Fri Nov 6 13:35:50 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:35:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Any way to check with the 100M Registry to see if this is true? Bill BJ7 > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:18:42 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? > > though, it is being advertized as: > > "1956 Austin Healey 100M Factory car with Heritage certificate ,all numbers > matching ,100 M Registry and California clear Title." > > > > > > > > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am > > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so > (just > > last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had > > apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely > > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Fri Nov 6 14:18:24 2009 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (gilbert gauthier) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:18:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: <1B217B23CF1041EEBC0A3089BE765AE6@tm> References: <1B217B23CF1041EEBC0A3089BE765AE6@tm> Message-ID: <978A5BA0-1DF6-47A1-A133-235901211A5C@cgocable.ca> I ask the guy how come the brace were not bent and he told me that they were bent when they were not a real factory M. Some are real one some are not as we can see . giby Looking for a M with good history at an affordable and realistic price :-) Le 09-11-06 ` 14:40, Tadeusz Malkiewicz a icrit : > The current bid though is pretty high for an unfinished restoration... > > ________________________________________ > From: Awgertoo at aol.com [mailto:Awgertoo at aol.com] > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 7:31 PM > To: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? > > Tadek-- > > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are > not so > (just last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M > because it > had apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is > entirely > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. > > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans > ---------------------------------------- > In a message dated 11/6/2009 12:31:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl writes: > There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme > > Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam > exchange??.. > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as comkanuk at cgocable.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Nov 6 14:32:25 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:32:25 EST Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Message-ID: In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:30:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, robertlarson at att.net writes: What was the great quote here years ago about the "M's"? Something like: Of the 600 built 1500 survive......... Bob Exactly-- Michael From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Nov 6 14:40:36 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:40:36 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Eurpoean request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF497D4.5000409@chello.nl> This may be a difficult one as the bolt pattern is 4x4" which is not very common, it was used on: Sprite/Midget, Mini, Vauxhall Viva/Firenza/Magnum HC, Morris Minor, Hillman/Sunbeam Imp, Chevrolet Vega (I think), Jensen Healey, Panther Kalista? and perhaps a few others. The best bet would be Minilite in the UK. The wheel style of the alloys would suit the car and they can produce the proper bolt pattern, wheelsize and ET or off set. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs insptwo at msn.com schreef: > I have received a request from Portugal concerning an attempt to get new > wheels for a 1969 Sprite. Is there anyone on the list, from Europe, that I can > forward this email to who might be able to help this gentleman out. > > Bill > > BJ7 > > Healey-Marque Classified ads Mgr. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Nov 6 14:49:13 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:49:13 EST Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Message-ID: In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:07:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: though, it is being advertized as: "1956 Austin Healey 100M Factory car with Heritage certificate ,all numbers matching ,100 M Registry and California clear Title." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- I assume this is referring to Bill Meade's "100 M Registry". To my knowledge Bill does NOT maintain a registry that certifies which cars are actually authentic M cars (the so-called 640). It would be nice if that were the purpose of the registry but in fact it serves as a profit-center for Bill. Cars are listed on his Registry if they register and pay a fee. Some cars are no doubt real M's and some are cars that have been "converted to "M" specs by owners. In fact my 1954 BN1 LeMans may be found mentioned in the roles of Bill's registry simply because I chose to send him the money (I really liked the Registry grill badge!). But I was very clear to say that my car is simply a BN1 LeMans that had been converted to M specs by the original owner in about 1956-1957, though I doubt that the owners of all the cars on the registry may have been as scrupulous. I'm not being critical of Bill Meade's effort but I think his "Registry" may invite abuse as simply saying that a car is "On the 100 M Registry" is not a guarantee of authenticity. Bottomline--M=MONEY!!! Best--Michael Oritt From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Fri Nov 6 14:49:27 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:49:27 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF4F7F@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Btw. I never understood/understand the hype about these Warwick kit modified Healey 100s. For me they are 100s with some sportive extras. The way the kit was installed was not very professionally done (bended cross brace etc.) and the cars had, except the additions known, no upgrading which makes them really interesting for a collector. No real hightech installed, just a modkit fitted what every normal garage could do. So for me this glorification of these 100Ms it really something I cannot share. But that's just my personal opinion. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Nov 6 15:24:27 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: <978A5BA0-1DF6-47A1-A133-235901211A5C@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: <483720168.5137811257546267527.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Is it just me, or do the louvers on the bonnet--and possibly the bonnet itself--appear incorrect; i.e. too far apart? I'm working from memory, but on our M I think the louvers are closer together. Cheers, Bob (whose dad found a factory 100M in the local newspaper and bought it--bless his heart) -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA I ask the guy how come the brace were not bent and he told me that they were bent when they were not a real factory M. Some are real one some are not as we can see . giby Looking for a M with good history at an affordable and realistic price :-) From e-wilkins at cox.net Fri Nov 6 15:44:41 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:44:41 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14C57BD6-A287-4B1E-AC69-1C577E65E5EB@cox.net> Could the heritage cert. have valuable info? Are the pistons and all correct? On Nov 6, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:07:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > > though, it is being advertized as: > > "1956 Austin Healey 100M Factory car with Heritage certificate ,all > numbers > matching ,100 M Registry and California clear Title." > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > > I assume this is referring to Bill Meade's "100 M Registry". > > To my knowledge Bill does NOT maintain a registry that certifies which > cars are actually authentic M cars (the so-called 640). It would > be nice if > that were the purpose of the registry but in fact it serves as a > profit-center for Bill. Cars are listed on his Registry if they > register and pay a > fee. Some cars are no doubt real M's and some are cars that have > been > "converted to "M" specs by owners. In fact my 1954 BN1 LeMans may > be found > mentioned in the roles of Bill's registry simply because I chose to > send him the > money (I really liked the Registry grill badge!). But I was very > clear to > say that my car is simply a BN1 LeMans that had been converted to M > specs > by the original owner in about 1956-1957, though I doubt that the > owners of > all the cars on the registry may have been as scrupulous. > > I'm not being critical of Bill Meade's effort but I think his > "Registry" > may invite abuse as simply saying that a car is "On the 100 M > Registry" is > not a guarantee of authenticity. Bottomline--M=MONEY!!! > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From alexmm at roadrunner.com Fri Nov 6 16:40:51 2009 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:40:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 3000 parts in NH References: Message-ID: <90F4F78E64A74D03A7F1E6F5E0F347B7@atc0f226cd3237> This guy is disingenuous. When my friend got to his location to see the shroud, he wanted $800 for it---alone! He wouldn't send photos, and it turned out the shroud was in poor condition. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ROBERT: Please forward to the reflector list. Thanks. [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] From Healey100M at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 16:44:43 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:44:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B7A3014-5A72-4A50-91D8-17B2CC00DBC6@gmail.com> Actually Meade's registry did distinguish between factory built cars and converted cars according too his Membership Directory dated 1998. Factory Produced Cars were "F" numbers in the registry, Early Pre-Post Production Converted Cars were "E-C numbers, and Post Production Converted Cars were "C" numbers. This was the last Membership Directory I ever got and the Newsletters stopped in late 1990's. No real communication since that time. Only time I had communication with the Registry was 4-5 years ago when I checked out a car and told my membership had lapsed and I could re-up for $20. I was told to just send him $20 every year with no notification to keep membership active. ????? This Registry has always been a mystery to me and prefer to have my car listed with Rich Chrysler's registry. Randy Randy Hicks '56 100M '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Nov 6, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:07:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > > though, it is being advertized as: > > "1956 Austin Healey 100M Factory car with Heritage certificate ,all > numbers > matching ,100 M Registry and California clear Title." > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > > I assume this is referring to Bill Meade's "100 M Registry". > > To my knowledge Bill does NOT maintain a registry that certifies which > cars are actually authentic M cars (the so-called 640). It would > be nice if > that were the purpose of the registry but in fact it serves as a > profit-center for Bill. Cars are listed on his Registry if they > register and pay a > fee. Some cars are no doubt real M's and some are cars that have > been > "converted to "M" specs by owners. In fact my 1954 BN1 LeMans may > be found > mentioned in the roles of Bill's registry simply because I chose to > send him the > money (I really liked the Registry grill badge!). But I was very > clear to > say that my car is simply a BN1 LeMans that had been converted to M > specs > by the original owner in about 1956-1957, though I doubt that the > owners of > all the cars on the registry may have been as scrupulous. > > I'm not being critical of Bill Meade's effort but I think his > "Registry" > may invite abuse as simply saying that a car is "On the 100 M > Registry" is > not a guarantee of authenticity. Bottomline--M=MONEY!!! > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From jessmd1 at comcast.net Fri Nov 6 16:50:21 2009 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:50:21 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] aluminum gas tank Message-ID: I have a new aluminum gas tank and the gas line is a brass fitting with a ferrel.Do I need pipe joint compound or plumber's tape? From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 16:50:42 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:50:42 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: <0E6A397FBD9A440182DCCCB547E87B1A@tm> References: <0E6A397FBD9A440182DCCCB547E87B1A@tm> Message-ID: <751d05480911061550i59103242o618122485261fbb3@mail.gmail.com> Tadek and All, I have personally looked at dozens of Factory 100M's and back when Bill Wood had the list of Factory M's he wood confirm those that I found for various buyers. I can tell you from personal experience there are several reasons that the X brace will not be bent on a genuine Facory M. According to either Roger Menedue, the standing practice at Warwick when the M's were built was to undo the front engine mounts and then jack the engine up slightly and then slide the canshaft in, since the X brace was in the way. However, as the story goes, if Geoff Healey was not in the shop to supervise, the mechanics would save time and bend the brace to one side instead. I believe that this story comes from Reid Trummel via Roger and possibly Geoff. I can personally confirm several Factory M's with *NO* bend in the X brace. I found a car in San Diego some years back and the X brace on first inspection did not appear to be bent. However when I examined the car closer, it had been hit at some point in the past in the front and apparently the body shop, not knowing any better, had straightened the bend in the X brace when they did the repairs Cheers, Curt Arndt AH Concours Committee On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Tadeusz Malkiewicz < tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl> wrote: There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme > > *Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam > exchange??.*. > > Best, Tadek > _______________________________________________ From bertvanbrande at yahoo.com Fri Nov 6 16:52:03 2009 From: bertvanbrande at yahoo.com (Bert Van Brande) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:52:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: <14C57BD6-A287-4B1E-AC69-1C577E65E5EB@cox.net> Message-ID: <571794.55845.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> As pointed out already, do your homework on this one. 'Buy the seller' before you 'buy the car'. email me off list if you need more information. Bert From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Nov 6 16:57:53 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:57:53 EST Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Message-ID: Hi Randy-- I felt there was some "gray area" esp. since the documentation was supplied by the registratnt--that being you and me--who paid the money. I'll try to dig out my file but do not recall the "F-EC-C" designations though that would have been a good idea. I too was quite disappointed that there was never anything else sent except for the initial "Directory"--no effort to keep the community aware of the current status so how authoritative can it be? A directory and the M-spec brochure printed on a couple of pieces of yellow paper isn't much for $20.00 but I was young and wanted the badge--which is a nice item and graces the grill of my (LeMans) car--and BTW don't you think such a badge tends to mislead an observer into thinking that the car bearing it might be an M? My car is also registered with Rich--for free. Best--Michael Oritt ----------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/6/2009 6:45:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Healey100M at gmail.com writes: Actually Meade's registry did distinguish between factory built cars and converted cars according too his Membership Directory dated 1998. Factory Produced Cars were "F" numbers in the registry, Early Pre-Post Production Converted Cars were "E-C numbers, and Post Production Converted Cars were "C" numbers. This was the last Membership Directory I ever got and the Newsletters stopped in late 1990's. No real communication since that time. Only time I had communication with the Registry was 4-5 years ago when I checked out a car and told my membership had lapsed and I could re-up for $20. I was told to just send him $20 every year with no notification to keep membership active. ????? This Registry has always been a mystery to me and prefer to have my car listed with Rich Chrysler's registry. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 6 17:14:38 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:14:38 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 3000 parts in NH In-Reply-To: <90F4F78E64A74D03A7F1E6F5E0F347B7@atc0f226cd3237> References: Message-ID: Sorry, just found it on the web. there's a reflector list? :) > From: alexmm at roadrunner.com > > This guy is disingenuous. When my friend got to his location to see the > shroud, he wanted $800 for it---alone! > > He wouldn't send photos, and it turned out the shroud was in poor condition. > > == Alex in Maine > "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 > Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, > 1965 MG Midget > http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm > > ROBERT: Please forward to the reflector list. Thanks. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 6 17:19:29 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:19:29 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: <14C57BD6-A287-4B1E-AC69-1C577E65E5EB@cox.net> References: Message-ID: A heritage certificate is done without anyone seeing the car. You just send them a VIN and money and they print out a certificate for that car. > CC: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; healeys at autox.team.net > From: e-wilkins at cox.net > > > Could the heritage cert. have valuable info? > > Are the pistons and all correct? > > > On Nov 6, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:07:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > > > > though, it is being advertized as: > > > > "1956 Austin Healey 100M Factory car with Heritage certificate ,all > > numbers > > matching ,100 M Registry and California clear Title." > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I assume this is referring to Bill Meade's "100 M Registry". > > > > To my knowledge Bill does NOT maintain a registry that certifies which > > cars are actually authentic M cars (the so-called 640). It would > > be nice if > > that were the purpose of the registry but in fact it serves as a > > profit-center for Bill. Cars are listed on his Registry if they > > register and pay a > > fee. Some cars are no doubt real M's and some are cars that have > > been > > "converted to "M" specs by owners. In fact my 1954 BN1 LeMans may > > be found > > mentioned in the roles of Bill's registry simply because I chose to > > send him the > > money (I really liked the Registry grill badge!). But I was very > > clear to > > say that my car is simply a BN1 LeMans that had been converted to M > > specs > > by the original owner in about 1956-1957, though I doubt that the > > owners of > > all the cars on the registry may have been as scrupulous. > > > > I'm not being critical of Bill Meade's effort but I think his > > "Registry" > > may invite abuse as simply saying that a car is "On the 100 M > > Registry" is > > not a guarantee of authenticity. Bottomline--M=MONEY!!! > > > > Best--Michael Oritt From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Fri Nov 6 18:34:29 2009 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John & Kerry Rowe) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:34:29 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] aluminum gas tank In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091107013430.JGAL1743.nschwotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> Jess Neither. The ferrel provided it has the correct fittings with it makes a perfect seal both for pressure or vacuum John Rowe Qld Australia BN1 BT7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jess Power Sent: Saturday, 7 November 2009 9:50 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] aluminum gas tank I have a new aluminum gas tank and the gas line is a brass fitting with a ferrel.Do I need pipe joint compound or plumber's tape? _______________________________________________ From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Nov 6 19:06:59 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:06:59 EST Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Message-ID: In a message dated 11/6/2009 8:07:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: A heritage certificate is done without anyone seeing the car. You just send them a VIN and money and they print out a certificate for that car. And they are not always accurate. Best--Michael Oritt From johnlink1 at comcast.net Fri Nov 6 19:08:27 2009 From: johnlink1 at comcast.net (John Linkosky) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:08:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on Ebay Message-ID: <003a01ca5f4f$31e9c720$95bd5560$@net> I just looked at the auction and with bidder identities kept private, no one can tell who is bidding or how many times the same bidders have bid. I bet the car doesn't meet reserve. I am always suspicious of shill bidding when bidder identities are kept private. With the way ebay scrambles the identity of bidders now, there is no reason to keep identities private. The old excuse used to be that those with similar products/cars for sale would snipe the identities of the bidders and try to sell their car to them. Not a valid reason anymore. John From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Nov 6 19:22:15 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:22:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? References: Message-ID: <9CD5A50C89E243239D5E10EA0A601683@LIFEBOOK> Hello all, Meanwhile we're documenting all the "factory M's" as such on the Hundred Registry if they can substantiate with the BMIHT certificate, etc. Within the last year, BMIHT has opened up their services a bit and will check one or two basic items like this free of charge per individual. So if you have or find that your car is a "confirmed" factory M, or otherwise for that matter, please let me know so we can all keep our Hundred Registry up to date and as accurate as possible. BTW, we're up to over 2800 cars registered now, thanks to all of your input. Rich Chrysler North American Hundred Registrar Michael Oritt wrote: > My car is also registered with Rich--for free. > Randy Hicks wrote: This Registry has always been a mystery to me and prefer to have my > car listed with Rich Chrysler's registry. From m.brouillette at comcast.net Fri Nov 6 19:51:18 2009 From: m.brouillette at comcast.net (m.brouillette at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 02:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 3000 parts in NH In-Reply-To: <90F4F78E64A74D03A7F1E6F5E0F347B7@atc0f226cd3237> Message-ID: <1971970027.384221257562278144.JavaMail.root@sz0097a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I too talked to this guy, and passed on his stuff. He's had this ad up in the NH Craiglist on and off for at least 6 months. Mike B 59 BT7 Bedford, NH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex" To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca, "Healeys" Sent: Friday, November 6, 2009 6:40:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 parts in NH This guy is disingenuous. When my friend got to his location to see the shroud, he wanted $800 for it---alone! He wouldn't send photos, and it turned out the shroud was in poor condition. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ROBERT: Please forward to the reflector list. Thanks. [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as m.brouillette at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive From ynotink at msn.com Fri Nov 6 21:20:04 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:20:04 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: <0E6A397FBD9A440182DCCCB547E87B1A@tm> References: <0E6A397FBD9A440182DCCCB547E87B1A@tm> Message-ID: I suppose the body shop may have straightened it...? It does have the right shroud support though. But $47K! Bill Lawrence > From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:56:36 +0100 > Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? > > There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme > > Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam exchange??.. > > I wonder what will it go up to.. > > Best, Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From ynotink at msn.com Fri Nov 6 21:27:55 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:27:55 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: <4AF47B89.5020807@att.net> References: <4AF47B89.5020807@att.net> Message-ID: It's getting so the "plain janes" are the rare ones. Bill LawrenceBN1 #554 > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:39:53 -0500 > From: robertlarson at att.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? > > What was the great quote here years ago about the "M's"? > > Something like: > > Of the 600 built 1500 survive......... > > Bob > Plain Jane 55 BN1 > > Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > > Tadek-- > > > > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am > > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so (just > > last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had > > apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely > > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans > > ---------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Nov 7 00:13:51 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:13:51 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: References: <4AF47B89.5020807@att.net> Message-ID: I gotta plain jane BN1... Don't want the extra power, I have an Austin gearbox! On 11/7/09, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > It's getting so the "plain janes" are the rare ones. > > Bill LawrenceBN1 #554 >> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:39:53 -0500 >> From: robertlarson at att.net >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? >> >> What was the great quote here years ago about the "M's"? >> >> Something like: >> >> Of the 600 built 1500 survive......... >> >> Bob >> Plain Jane 55 BN1 >> >> Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: >> > Tadek-- >> > >> > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am >> > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not >> > so > (just >> > last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it >> > had >> > apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely >> > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. >> > >> > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans >> > ---------------------------------------- >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Sat Nov 7 01:55:22 2009 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:55:22 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF4F7F@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF4F7F@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: Josef Let me wade in here but before I do you need to know that I have a BN1 Le Mans that has almost everything that was available from the Donald Healey Motor Company very early on. My provenance is estimated at around 90% due to both Donald and Bic confirming that they knew the original owner well but on the other hand I do not have a receipt for the original work because there might not have been one. It does however have a Healey badge on the boot not Austin-Healey or Austin of England. This was claimed to have been fitted at Donald Healey Motor Company. Regarding Warwick kits there were not I understand any such things. Most kits were marketed by BMC under a BMC part number. The Warwick parts were not numbered using BMC notation but Healey's own starting with 'H'. 'H' parts could be bought as required and maybe some came naturally together and therefore could I suppose be considered a kit. However I can agree with you up to point that a BN2M or cars modified to this level are a bit of a hype because all we are talking about is the engine modifications that were just a subset of what was originally available for the BN1. The point that is being missed here is that early owners were keen to bring their cars up to the same specification as those that did so well in the Le Mans race. Donald saw a marketing opportunity here and offered all and perhaps more items to early BN1 owners. These were much more than just the engine modifications and included such things as different rear axle and overdrive ratios, larger fuel tanks, modified suspension etc. Owners often sent their car to Warwick to have these changes carried and a strong racing group resulted. Incidentally a louvered bonnet was not offered in the early days. The Le Mans race cars did not have these. All they had as Roger told me, was a block of wood to keep the bonnet a bit open at the rear. Obviously I have to disagree with your view. A car that had received the personal attention of Donald must be of more interest than a BN2 that has been modified in recent years. Regards >Btw. I never understood/understand the hype about these Warwick kit >modified Healey 100s. -- John Harper From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Sat Nov 7 05:57:25 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:57:25 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6D81910FEE6C4A81AE85EE495060B0A5@tm> Rich, And how many of these 2800 are M? (Hopefully less then 640 :-) ) Tadek Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:22:15 -0500 From: "Rich C" Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? To: , Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Message-ID: <9CD5A50C89E243239D5E10EA0A601683 at LIFEBOOK> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello all, Meanwhile we're documenting all the "factory M's" as such on the Hundred Registry if they can substantiate with the BMIHT certificate, etc. Within the last year, BMIHT has opened up their services a bit and will check one or two basic items like this free of charge per individual. So if you have or find that your car is a "confirmed" factory M, or otherwise for that matter, please let me know so we can all keep our Hundred Registry up to date and as accurate as possible. BTW, we're up to over 2800 cars registered now, thanks to all of your input. Rich Chrysler North American Hundred Registrar From healey2004 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 7 06:58:15 2009 From: healey2004 at yahoo.com (Bill Poff) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:58:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet Message-ID: <931692.44534.qm@web35503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A few years ago I remember that someone on the list had invested in louver dies to press the original 100M louvers and was offering this service. Anyone know if this service is still available and who to contact? Bill 100 100M From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sat Nov 7 07:36:52 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:36:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet In-Reply-To: <931692.44534.qm@web35503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <931692.44534.qm@web35503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <751d05480911070636m235fe964w5c2d077552e7fb93@mail.gmail.com> Bill Paul Schwartz of Orinda CA is this person. He used to advertise in the Healey magazines. Curt On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Bill Poff wrote: > A few years ago I remember that someone on the list had invested in louver > dies to press the original 100M louvers and was offering this service. > Anyone know if this service is still available and who to contact? > > Bill > 100 > 100M > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From glemon at neb.rr.com Sat Nov 7 08:44:34 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:44:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet In-Reply-To: <751d05480911070636m235fe964w5c2d077552e7fb93@mail.gmail.com> References: <931692.44534.qm@web35503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <751d05480911070636m235fe964w5c2d077552e7fb93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9F21B74A7D5747CFBFF6DA021FA67F26@GregPC> Years ago I watched a History Channel Special on the Morgan, they showed how they made the louvered bonnets, pressing the louvers in one by one by hand, it looked like they basically eyeballed the placement and alignment of the louvers, does anyone know if the factory M louvers were made in a similar manner, or did they have a big multiple louver stamping machine? Just curious, Greg Lemon From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sat Nov 7 08:51:40 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:51:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet In-Reply-To: <9F21B74A7D5747CFBFF6DA021FA67F26@GregPC> References: <931692.44534.qm@web35503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <751d05480911070636m235fe964w5c2d077552e7fb93@mail.gmail.com> <9F21B74A7D5747CFBFF6DA021FA67F26@GregPC> Message-ID: <751d05480911070751j3b16db10sb66a11cb60bfdfda@mail.gmail.com> Greg, I don't know for certain but think about it for a moment, a HUGE expense to produce a multiple louvered die for an inexpensive, extremely limited production car. Just over 1,000 bonnets louvered. This was after all England just after the war. Cheers Curt On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Greg Lemon wrote: > Years ago I watched a History Channel Special on the Morgan, they showed > how they made the louvered bonnets, pressing the louvers in one by one by > hand, it looked like they basically eyeballed the placement and alignment of > the louvers, does anyone know if the factory M louvers were made in a > similar manner, or did they have a big multiple louver stamping machine? > > Just curious, Greg Lemon From Awgertoo at aol.com Sat Nov 7 09:04:02 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:04:02 EST Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Message-ID: In a message dated 11/7/2009 5:03:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ah at jharper.demon.co.uk writes: Obviously I have to disagree with your view. A car that had received the personal attention of Donald must be of more interest than a BN2 that has been modified in recent years. Another interesting tidbit/point of view regarding the "M" cars that received this "special" treatment that might put things into perspective is to imagine a conversation such as this between DMH and Bic: With the decision having been made to bring out the 100-6 the marketing question Donald faced might be stated: "How the Heck am I going to get rid of these darn 640 four-cylinder cars???? Surely no one will want to buy last year's model!" And then Bic said "Hey Dad I got a great idea--let's make them into a special model, put on some jazzy stuff like a leather hood strap and louvers, raise the HP a few by using a different piston and cam, and let's be sure to put on one of those Cold Air Boxes that everyone is convinced is the hot lick. We may not make any extra money but at least we won't be stuck with those cars." And thus was born the much-vaunted 100M.... Best--Michael Oritt (NOT a Healey revisionist-historian, but one willing to engage in logical speculation) From Awgertoo at aol.com Sat Nov 7 09:05:59 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:05:59 EST Subject: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet Message-ID: In a message dated 11/7/2009 9:34:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, healey2004 at yahoo.com writes: A few years ago I remember that someone on the list had invested in louver dies to press the original 100M louvers and was offering this service. Anyone know if this service is still available and who to contact? -------------------------------------------- It was Paul Schwartz of Colorado. His pattern was "correct" and BTW there is nothing that looks worse to my eye than the wrong louver pattern. Best--Michael Oritt From Awgertoo at aol.com Sat Nov 7 09:10:51 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:10:51 EST Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Message-ID: In a message dated 11/7/2009 3:03:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, healey.nut at gmail.com writes: I gotta plain jane BN1... Don't want the extra power, I have an Austin gearbox! ----------------------------- Some people speculate that a car such as that is destined for high value since most of them will soon have been grabbed up and made into M's. Hang onto it. Best--Michael Oritt From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sat Nov 7 09:42:36 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:42:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Louvered 100 bonnet In-Reply-To: <751d05480911070636m235fe964w5c2d077552e7fb93@mail.gmail.com> References: <931692.44534.qm@web35503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <751d05480911070636m235fe964w5c2d077552e7fb93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <751d05480911070842t2cd61d10h8357e31372fc5f7a@mail.gmail.com> Paul is from Orinda, CA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Curt/Nancy Arndt Date: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet To: Bill Poff Cc: Healey List Bill Paul Schwartz of Orinda CA is this person. He used to advertise in the Healey magazines. Curt On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Bill Poff wrote: A few years ago I remember that someone on the list had invested in louver > dies to press the original 100M louvers and was offering this service. > Anyone know if this service is still available and who to contact? > > Bill > 100 > 100M From bn1 at pacbell.net Sat Nov 7 10:51:40 2009 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:51:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF5B3AC.5010500@pacbell.net> Ohhhhhhhh Mr. Oritt, Here I thought we had settled our discussion amiably off List with you stating: "Sorry for the unnecessary conflict." and attaching a picture of your 100 with some sort of a hardtop??? I don't know why you have to be surreptitious with "some BN1 owner" when everybody knows it's me, Bill Barnett from the South Left Coast USA or Mr. Bill to you. Actually I'm glad you decided to drag this back out in public AGAIN because I would like to ask for the collective wisdom of our worldwide group. In our off List correspondence I asked Mr. Oritt: "What I originally questioned was how you decided that our cars should 'properly be called a 100 Lemans' and 'calling the car an M is wrong'. Is this your nomenclature? If so, who appointed you the authority? If not, please direct me to your reference and I will publicly apologize to you. If it is to be Lemans, which of the three spellings you have used is correct?" (LeMans or Le Mans) Mr. Oritt chose to completely ignore my simple questions. Can anyone on our List help bail him out? Many thanks for your patience and with your help, we can put this much overworked terminology silliness to rest. Bill '53 Red Car Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > Tadek-- > > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so (just > last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had > apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. > > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Sat Nov 7 13:22:49 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:22:49 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kilmartin also louvers bonnets - I got mine form them, looks pretty good.. Price was attractive too if you solve the shipping issue... Best, tadek From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 7 14:18:17 2009 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:18:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] misc rubber stuff In-Reply-To: <173126440911050850h55a486f1obb3f58e2d89726ec@mail.gmail.co m> References: <173126440911050850h55a486f1obb3f58e2d89726ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20091107131612.020c04f8@pop.att.yahoo.com> I don't know about an all inclusive kit but you can obtain some grommets from hardware stores and Steel Rubber Products has other rubber bits although they are not specifically listed for Healeys. John At 08:50 AM 11/5/2009 -0800, I Erbs wrote: >.... Is there an all inclusive kit, or must >I look for each type of kit. I have seen a firewall kit, but again, not a >whole car. From Healey100M at gmail.com Sat Nov 7 15:00:12 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:00:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: <4AF5B3AC.5010500@pacbell.net> References: <4AF5B3AC.5010500@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Oh, just to further muddy the water, my Heritage Certificate states: "The B.M.I.H.T can confirm that this car is a genuine, factory built Austin Healey 100 M "Le Mans"." Le Mans being in quotes and a space between Le & Mans. Doesn't that help? :-) Randy Randy Hicks '56 100M "Le Mans" '55 BN1 Dealer "Le Mans" '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Mr. Bill wrote: > Ohhhhhhhh Mr. Oritt, > > Here I thought we had settled our discussion amiably off List with you > stating: "Sorry for the unnecessary conflict." and attaching a > picture > of your 100 with some sort of a hardtop??? > > I don't know why you have to be surreptitious with "some BN1 owner" > when > everybody knows it's me, Bill Barnett from the South Left Coast USA or > Mr. Bill to you. Actually I'm glad you decided to drag this back > out in > public AGAIN because I would like to ask for the collective wisdom of > our worldwide group. > > In our off List correspondence I asked Mr. Oritt: "What I originally > questioned was how you decided that our cars should 'properly be > called > a 100 Lemans' and 'calling the car an M is wrong'. Is this your > nomenclature? If so, who appointed you the authority? If not, please > direct me to your reference and I will publicly apologize to you. > If it > is to be Lemans, which of the three spellings you have used is > correct?" (LeMans or Le Mans) > > Mr. Oritt chose to completely ignore my simple questions. Can > anyone on > our List help bail him out? > > Many thanks for your patience and with your help, we can put this much > overworked terminology silliness to rest. > > Bill > '53 Red Car From walt2727 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 7 15:25:34 2009 From: walt2727 at yahoo.com (Walt Peterson) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:25:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Wheel Change Message-ID: <35672.43155.qm@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What would it entail switching from wires to disc-type wheels? I like the wires but after 40 plus years the splines & hubs are worn. I also like the mini lite look & the saving of unsprung weight, the relative simplicity, etc. Seems a spacer & some longer studs might work in the back, not sure about the front. There are more and more events with vintage-friendly rules, and the wheels would help there, too. What knowledge/experience do you have? Thanks, Walt BT 7 Albatross Jabro-buick From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Nov 7 16:36:25 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:36:25 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Wheel Change In-Reply-To: <35672.43155.qm@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <35672.43155.qm@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Walt - You can get the disc hubs for the front of your car (used) but if unsprung weight is your concern, the disc conversion won't do much because the front hubs (if you can find them) are very heavy. Also the hub, used, will probably be very expensive anyway. If unsprung weght is the concern, the splined + splined minilites is probably the way to go. Alan On 11/8/09, Walt Peterson wrote: > > What would it entail switching from wires to disc-type wheels? I like the > wires but after 40 plus years the splines & hubs are worn. I also like the > mini lite look & the saving of unsprung weight, the relative simplicity, > etc. > Seems a spacer & some longer studs might work in the back, not sure about > the > front. There are more and more events with vintage-friendly rules, and the > wheels would help there, too. What knowledge/experience do you have? > > Thanks, > > Walt > > BT 7 > Albatross > Jabro-buick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From jstmorris at yahoo.com Sat Nov 7 18:04:57 2009 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:04:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet In-Reply-To: <931692.44534.qm@web35503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <622997.80644.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Bill; The most recent information I have on Paul Schwartz is from March 2007. He used to advertise in the various Healey magazines about his louvering service. At that time the contact information was: lucashly at aol.com 1-925-254-5001 Various updates are listed below. I have not done a recent 411 Serach since 2007 Good Luck. --Scott Morris, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada '62 3000 MkII BT7; '60 3000 MkI BN7 J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives Paul Schwartz lucashly at aol.com 1-925-254-5001 March 2006 Dave Russell lucashly at comcast.net 1-925-254-5001 April 2004 411 Search [March 22 2007] Schwartz, Kay 19 el Rincon, Orinda, CA 94563-2012 (925) 254-5001 --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Bill Poff wrote: << A few years ago I remember that someone on the list had invested in louver dies to press the original 100M louvers and was offering this service. Anyone know if this service is still available and who to contact? >> __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From rnbmail at yahoo.com Sat Nov 7 18:39:07 2009 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:39:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <135747.28483.qm@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 4 Cylinder Listers, I am not an M or a LeMans or a Le Mans guy so forgive the optimism here, but it seems that all could be happy with '100M LeMans or '100M Le Mans', or???? As a Brit and knowing the Brits, I personally doubt that DH et al would have formalized the name Le Mans as a factory authorised name - cos that if just too FRENCH. We all know that history book. I suspect that the 'M' in Le Mans appealed to describe the spoken kit that updraded production cars to the basic spec of the cars that ran at Le Mans. Make sense to anyone? Surely the multiple Healey books quoting DH et al should clearly show the real name they used/intended, vs names that enthusiats tend to adopt after the fact - eg the Ferrari Daytona - there never was a Ferrari Daytona as far as the factory is concerned - it was simple a Ferrari 356GTB/4 - period. The fans gave it the Daytona name[another story]and it stuck permanently. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Randy Hicks wrote: > From: Randy Hicks > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? > To: "Mr. Bill" > Cc: Awgertoo at aol.com, healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 2:00 PM > Oh, just to further muddy the water, > my Heritage Certificate states: > > "The B.M.I.H.T can confirm that this car is a genuine, > factory built Austin Healey 100 M "Le Mans"." > > Le Mans being in quotes and a space between Le & Mans. > > Doesn't that help? :-) > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > '56 100M "Le Mans" > '55 BN1 Dealer "Le Mans" > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com From bn1 at pacbell.net Sat Nov 7 18:43:40 2009 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:43:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: References: <4AF5B3AC.5010500@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <4AF6224C.9070603@pacbell.net> Many thx, Randy, that was the type of authority I was hoping would be cited. It totally clears up everything. ROTFLMAO! At least we now know how to spell Le Mans, just like they do in France. Back to more productive and less childish endeavors. Bill '53 Red Car ;-) Randy Hicks wrote: > Oh, just to further muddy the water, my Heritage Certificate states: > > "The B.M.I.H.T can confirm that this car is a genuine, factory built > Austin Healey 100 M "Le Mans"." > > Le Mans being in quotes and a space between Le & Mans. > > Doesn't that help? :-) > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > '56 100M "Le Mans" > '55 BN1 Dealer "Le Mans" > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 8 06:08:01 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:08:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Wheel Change References: <35672.43155.qm@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401ca6074$80987b70$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> What knowledge/experience do you have? The archives has years of knowledge and experience while you are waiting for feedback. Type in Mini light wheels or Panasport wheels.. Very expensive any way you go. New W/W are 150.00 X 4, (painted) hubs are about the same. New inner tubes, Knock offs, tires if needed. But should last the life of the car if PM is done properly. Switch to disc wheels? new front hubs, Wheels, Tires if needed, correct adaptors, Prices very of course. Look in your Moss catalog, and Dayton WW online to compare. Mark > > Thanks, > > Walt > > BT 7 > Albatross > Jabro-buick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From al at bighealey.org Sun Nov 8 07:26:25 2009 From: al at bighealey.org (Al Fuller) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:26:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency In-Reply-To: <011501ca58c7$cfcdfd00$6f69f700$@net> References: <4AE9DCB0.8040902@chello.nl> <011501ca58c7$cfcdfd00$6f69f700$@net> Message-ID: <006201ca607f$89427ef0$9bc77cd0$@org> My Toyota dealer changes my oil. I went in last week, and the new sticker has a 3000 mile interval (as usual). The owner's manual says 7,500 miles. I ignore the sticker and do it at 7,500 (the second trip odometer is great for this...). I hate to think like a lawyer, but there IS an argument that having/allowing manufacturer representatives telling people they need oil changes at less than half of the manufacturer's interval feels fraudulent. Al Fuller al at bighealey.org '62 BT-7 '65 BJ-8 '85 Rx-7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:44 PM To: 'Oudesluys'; 'Dan Stromquist' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency I have often wondered about that. Years ago, it was recommended to change every 1,000 miles. Now new car manufacturers recommend every 7,500. But, the quick change guys such as Jiffy Lube still put stickers on your car saying to change every 3,000 miles. Since the car manufacturer holds my 10 year 100,000 mile power train warranty, I am following his directions. Now, with an older engine, who really knows? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From fredwescoe at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 07:58:40 2009 From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:58:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Mechanic Message-ID: Lister, This is help for someone in the Lexington, Ky area who is not on the list. Does anyone know of a competent mechanic, in the Lexington, KY area, who has experience on British cars and can work on a 63 BJ7? Everything from ignition, carbs and transmission? Thanks From richard.ewald at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 08:41:56 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:41:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency In-Reply-To: <006201ca607f$89427ef0$9bc77cd0$@org> References: <4AE9DCB0.8040902@chello.nl> <011501ca58c7$cfcdfd00$6f69f700$@net> <006201ca607f$89427ef0$9bc77cd0$@org> Message-ID: While you may thing of them as the manufacturer's representatives, they are not. They are independent business that sell and service Toyota cars and trucks. As such then can tell a customer whatever they wish. What the dealer tells the customer often makes the factory unhappy, but there really isn't much they can do about it. Rick (Who used to work for the factory, and now is a service manager at a large dealership) (PS We don't recommend 3K oil services at my store) On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Al Fuller wrote: > My Toyota dealer changes my oil. I went in last week, and the new sticker > has a 3000 mile interval (as usual). The owner's manual says 7,500 miles. > I ignore the sticker and do it at 7,500 (the second trip odometer is great > for this...). > > I hate to think like a lawyer, but there IS an argument that > having/allowing > manufacturer representatives telling people they need oil changes at less > than half of the manufacturer's interval feels fraudulent. From billunc at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 08:56:38 2009 From: billunc at gmail.com (Bill B) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:56:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] need window for wing driverside 1965 bj8 Message-ID: <35dbb5b40911080756p3d49517fp5c212800102d71fa@mail.gmail.com> hello Healeyites: had a mishap over the weekend and no longer have a wing window on driver side 1965 bj8, anybody got an extra or know how to go about getting one? is it possible to take frame to a auto glass store and get one? appreciate any advise or insight thanks in advance Bill B Charlotte -- Bill Browning cell: 704-408-2711 From al at bighealey.org Sun Nov 8 09:32:08 2009 From: al at bighealey.org (Al Fuller) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:32:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency In-Reply-To: References: <4AE9DCB0.8040902@chello.nl> <011501ca58c7$cfcdfd00$6f69f700$@net> <006201ca607f$89427ef0$9bc77cd0$@org> Message-ID: <014901ca6091$057c3130$10749390$@org> Hi, Richard: Maybe I'm a little too literal for my own good, but I have to believe that when a business stocks millions of dollars in inventory, sells me a $60,000 vehicle, makes legally binding representations, offers a warranty [perhaps on behalf of the manufacturer - but offers it nonetheless], is responsible for warranty repairs, recalls, etc., and is either the only or at least primary contact between the manufacturer and literally thousands of customers then they meet the definition of a "representative". Anyway - I'm glad to hear that you aren't doing what my dealership is doing: scaring people into needless oil changes. Thanks for the exchange! Al Al Fuller al at bighealey.org '62 BT-7 '65 BJ-8 '85 Rx-7 From: Richard Ewald [mailto:richard.ewald at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:42 AM To: Al Fuller Cc: John Sims; Oudesluys; Dan Stromquist; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency While you may thing of them as the manufacturer's representatives, they are not. They are independent business that sell and service Toyota cars and trucks. As such then can tell a customer whatever they wish. What the dealer tells the customer often makes the factory unhappy, but there really isn't much they can do about it. Rick (Who used to work for the factory, and now is a service manager at a large dealership) (PS We don't recommend 3K oil services at my store) On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Al Fuller wrote: My Toyota dealer changes my oil. I went in last week, and the new sticker has a 3000 mile interval (as usual). The owner's manual says 7,500 miles. I ignore the sticker and do it at 7,500 (the second trip odometer is great for this...). I hate to think like a lawyer, but there IS an argument that having/allowing manufacturer representatives telling people they need oil changes at less than half of the manufacturer's interval feels fraudulent. From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 8 10:41:52 2009 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:41:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency In-Reply-To: <006201ca607f$89427ef0$9bc77cd0$@org> References: <4AE9DCB0.8040902@chello.nl> <011501ca58c7$cfcdfd00$6f69f700$@net> <006201ca607f$89427ef0$9bc77cd0$@org> Message-ID: <489465.67199.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> "oil is cheaper than metal " change your oil when it's dirty ________________________________ From: Al Fuller To: John Sims ; Oudesluys ; Dan Stromquist Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 6:26:25 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency My Toyota dealer changes my oil. I went in last week, and the new sticker has a 3000 mile interval (as usual). The owner's manual says 7,500 miles. I ignore the sticker and do it at 7,500 (the second trip odometer is great for this...). I hate to think like a lawyer, but there IS an argument that having/allowing manufacturer representatives telling people they need oil changes at less than half of the manufacturer's interval feels fraudulent. Al Fuller al at bighealey.org '62 BT-7 '65 BJ-8 '85 Rx-7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:44 PM To: 'Oudesluys'; 'Dan Stromquist' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency I have often wondered about that. Years ago, it was recommended to change every 1,000 miles. Now new car manufacturers recommend every 7,500. But, the quick change guys such as Jiffy Lube still put stickers on your car saying to change every 3,000 miles. Since the car manufacturer holds my 10 year 100,000 mile power train warranty, I am following his directions. Now, with an older engine, who really knows? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sjnnock at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 11:51:30 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:51:30 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Oil pan Message-ID: <38FA2A31-2897-4028-87CE-C7CF025C7036@gmail.com> Looking for a oil pan 3000MKI. Mine is very dented. Would like a better one. Posted this before and got advice on how to fix. May go that route. But replacement. Is easy. I Erbs Sent from my iPod From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Sun Nov 8 13:22:11 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:22:11 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Wheel Change In-Reply-To: References: <35672.43155.qm@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Walt, I just weighed two front hubs for a 3000. The wire wheel hub with knock-off weighs just over 7 pounds. The disc wheel hub weighs just over 7 pounds. They weigh the same! And, I can guarantee you that a splined mini-lite wheel will weigh a lot more that a bolt on mini-lite wheel. The major obstacle to changing from wires to disc wheels is finding a set of 3000 front hubs. However, I do have a set for sale. Contact me off list if you are interested. Richard Mayor _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From editorgary at aol.com Sun Nov 8 16:40:13 2009 From: editorgary at aol.com (editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:40:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Change intervals, redux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC2EE3F3A8FD07-2E60-1E5D8@webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com> Now, with an older engine, who really knows? This answer is easy: Most oil specialists will concur that it's not a good idea to leave oil sitting in an engine for more than 12 months. With our "older engines" it doesn't really matter how many miles can be driven before doing an oil change. Instead, what matters is the time interval, and my understanding of all the technical information is that oil should be changed at a minimum of every 12 months, because otherwise it gets gummy, corroded, corrupted, or whatever, and eventually does bad things to the engine, either by sitting there or by being used after sitting there. So, in the Healey, change the oil once a year just before the point when the car is going to sit the longest (for most of us, that means in late fall) before being used again. If you do drive your car more than a few thousand miles a year, you might contemplate changing the filter more frequently. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. Best Gary - From healeydoc at verizon.net Sun Nov 8 17:02:59 2009 From: healeydoc at verizon.net (David Nock) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] need window for wing driverside 1965 bj8 In-Reply-To: <35dbb5b40911080756p3d49517fp5c212800102d71fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <35dbb5b40911080756p3d49517fp5c212800102d71fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0151B816-0B21-4693-B986-478E28A48452@verizon.net> Bill we have some used vent windows availavle. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Nov 8, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Bill B wrote: > hello Healeyites: > had a mishap over the weekend and no longer have a wing window on > driver > side 1965 bj8, anybody got an extra or know how to go about getting > one? is > it possible to take frame to a auto glass store and get one? > > appreciate any advise or insight > > thanks in advance > > Bill B > Charlotte > > -- > Bill Browning > cell: 704-408-2711 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeydoc at verizon.net Sun Nov 8 17:05:14 2009 From: healeydoc at verizon.net (David Nock) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:05:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Oil pan In-Reply-To: <38FA2A31-2897-4028-87CE-C7CF025C7036@gmail.com> References: <38FA2A31-2897-4028-87CE-C7CF025C7036@gmail.com> Message-ID: <557D8D0D-401A-4342-983F-7C51B24CCBE5@verizon.net> We have about 20 used 6 cylinder oil pans and they all have some sort of damage to them. If you want give me a call at the shop on Monday am and we can see if we have one that is in better condition than yours. We also have new steel and aluminium pans available. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Nov 8, 2009, at 10:51 AM, I Erbs wrote: > Looking for a oil pan 3000MKI. Mine is very dented. Would like a > better one. Posted this before and got advice on how to fix. May > go that route. But replacement. Is easy. > > I Erbs > Sent from my iPod > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 20:37:01 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:37:01 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Oil Change intervals, redux In-Reply-To: <8CC2EE3F3A8FD07-2E60-1E5D8@webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC2EE3F3A8FD07-2E60-1E5D8@webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: One of the advantages of the synthetics is they stand up much better when not in use, and won't gum up or varnish when they sit. So if you don't drive your call all that much, I suggest that using synthetics will make a big difference here. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:40 AM, wrote: > Now, > with > an older engine, who really knows? > > > > This answer is easy: Most oil specialists will concur that it's not a good > idea to leave oil sitting in an engine for more than 12 months. With our > "older engines" it doesn't really matter how many miles can be driven > before > doing an oil change. Instead, what matters is the time interval, and my > understanding of all the technical information is that oil should be > changed > at a minimum of every 12 months, because otherwise it gets gummy, corroded, > corrupted, or whatever, and eventually does bad things to the engine, > either > by sitting there or by being used after sitting there. > > So, in the Healey, change the oil once a year just before the point when > the > car is going to sit the longest (for most of us, that means in late fall) > before being used again. If you do drive your car more than a few thousand > miles a year, you might contemplate changing the filter more frequently. > > That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. > > Best > Gary From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 00:26:18 2009 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:26:18 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet In-Reply-To: <931692.44534.qm@web35503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <931692.44534.qm@web35503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4e23c7250911082326s448784c2p6a46dbe9dd6de29e@mail.gmail.com> And for Europeans on the list needing some more air: a guy by the name of Toon Spitters in Gemert, The Netherlands, presses louvres. If one needs more address details, please contact me off list. Regards, Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/7 Bill Poff > A few years ago I remember that someone on the list had invested in louver > dies to press the original 100M louvers and was offering this service. > Anyone know if this service is still available and who to contact? > > Bill > 100 > 100M > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html From twillig at ruda.de Mon Nov 9 00:27:56 2009 From: twillig at ruda.de (Thomas Willig) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:27:56 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Message-ID: Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. Thanks Thomas Willig From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Mon Nov 9 02:19:11 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:19:11 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF508D@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Thomas, I use Silicone DOT5 brake fluid in my 100 (as in any of my other classic cars) for about 10 years. When filled in first I realised a problem with the master cylinder. I had to change the seals in it with new ones, and problem solved. Since I can only recommend to use DOT5. Its the best I have ever done as brakes are concerned. No mess with leaking and paint eating brake fluid anymore. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Thomas Willig Gesendet: Montag, 9. November 2009 08:28 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. Thanks Thomas Willig From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 9 02:34:36 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:34:36 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF7E22C.8060503@chello.nl> Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg Goodridge. Kees Oudesluijs NL Thomas Willig schreef: > Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid > in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some > modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can > anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2490 - Release Date: 11/08/09 19:39:00 From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 9 05:54:13 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 6:54:13 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <4AF7E22C.8060503@chello.nl> Message-ID: <20091109065413.UGVU8.669979.root@ispmxfep11-z01> ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not a leak or brake problem since. tom ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg Goodridge. Kees Oudesluijs NL Thomas Willig schreef: > Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid > in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some > modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can > anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2490 - Release Date: 11/08/09 19:39:00 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Mon Nov 9 07:13:16 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:13:16 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Concours correct tool/jack/jack handle bags Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF525E@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> This is more for the Concours guys. Where can i get a new concours correct tool/jack/jack handle bags for a Healey 100? Supplied bags here in Europe are of a material which are close to toneau cover material, but not as the original bags. Many thanks, Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY From fogbro1 at comcast.net Mon Nov 9 07:35:25 2009 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:35:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 References: Message-ID: <8530A33456E54158AEFA07C62E40BF6F@Edscomputer> Precisely none. Silcone fluid in my TF and TR3 for over 20 years. Ed Woods From grday at btinternet.com Mon Nov 9 07:37:41 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:37:41 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 References: <20091109065413.UGVU8.669979.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Message-ID: <2A49B5AEC12F4786A454813AF148CF08@user8634b3d69b> Tom, I'm with Kees Oudesluys on this. You are a lucky guy, 'cause in all other cars where I have seen the results of mixed fluids the rubber swells, goes very soft and wrinkles because of the swelling. It will wear, score and even stick on the bores of the cylinders. The brakes fail when you are pressing the brake pedal. Normally they will fail when you are pressing harder than usual, just when you need your brakes more than usual. However, if it has worked for you, keep on praying to the same God you've been praying to for years. btw. Which God is it? - I'll convert.... Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "Thomas Willig" ; "Oudesluys" Cc: Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is > different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 > and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not > a leak or brake problem since. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, > callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the > rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg > Goodridge. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Thomas Willig schreef: >> Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid >> in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some >> modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can >> anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. >> >> Thanks >> >> Thomas Willig >> _______________________________________________ From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 9 07:40:23 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:40:23 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF508D@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF508D@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: <4AF829D7.6010800@chello.nl> Although DOT5 has its advantages in: -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true for DOT5.1) -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic -higher dry and wet boiling point -long life there are also some negative sides to it: -little or no water absorpsion -slightly spongy brake pedal, hence the recommendation to use Teflon SS-braided brake hoses. You will always get some condensation in the brake fluid reservoir and the fluid will also absorb water from the air, even right through the seals. With DOT5 this is to a far lesser degree and eventually water can end up as droplets in the lower regions of the brake system, often in the callipers or brake cilinders, causing havoc. Because of the durability of DOT5 most people tend not to change the fluid regularly, thus the water will not be expelled from the system and this will be the cause of corrosion in the end. DOT3, DOT4 or DOT5.1 is less compressible than DOT5 and will absorb the moisture thus preventing corrosion to a certain point but also the boiling point will be getting to low. That is the reason it should be replaced every 1-3 years, depending on conditions. You can mix DOT4 and 5.1 with DOT3, but you should never top up DOT4 with DOT3 or DOT5.1 with DOT4/DOT3. You cannot mix DOT5 with DOT3/4/5.1. There is also DOT6 but that is for militairy applications only. I know of a lot of people preferring DOT5. I prefer DOT 4 or 5.1 because of its incompressability and water absoption as I am living in a country with often a high humidity. I change the brake fluid in all my cars every 2 years. Kees Oudesluijs NL > Since I can only recommend to use DOT5. Its the best I have ever done as > brakes are concerned. No mess with leaking and paint eating brake fluid > anymore. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > Betreff: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid in the > 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some modifications to the > brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can anybody tell me precisely > what these modifications were?. > > Thomas Willig From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 9 07:35:26 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 8:35:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <2A49B5AEC12F4786A454813AF148CF08@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <20091109083526.RPLPU.672554.root@ispmxfep11-z01> More than me who are lucky. I've known several Healey and Jag folks (including me)who dumped the DOT 4 and put in the DOT 5 directly in with NO resulting problems at all. ---- Guy R Day wrote: ============= Tom, I'm with Kees Oudesluys on this. You are a lucky guy, 'cause in all other cars where I have seen the results of mixed fluids the rubber swells, goes very soft and wrinkles because of the swelling. It will wear, score and even stick on the bores of the cylinders. The brakes fail when you are pressing the brake pedal. Normally they will fail when you are pressing harder than usual, just when you need your brakes more than usual. However, if it has worked for you, keep on praying to the same God you've been praying to for years. btw. Which God is it? - I'll convert.... Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "Thomas Willig" ; "Oudesluys" Cc: Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is > different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 > and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not > a leak or brake problem since. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, > callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the > rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg > Goodridge. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Thomas Willig schreef: >> Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid >> in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some >> modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can >> anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. >> >> Thanks >> >> Thomas Willig >> _______________________________________________ From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 9 07:47:03 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:47:03 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <20091109065413.UGVU8.669979.root@ispmxfep11-z01> References: <20091109065413.UGVU8.669979.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Message-ID: <4AF82B67.6070604@chello.nl> Tom, You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. You may have been extremely lucky. Kees Oudesluijs Tom Felts schreef: > ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not a leak or brake problem since. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, > callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the > rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg > Goodridge. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 9 08:41:33 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:41:33 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: References: <4AF5B3AC.5010500@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Well, you had better correct your signature then!! :) ( to "100 M" instead of "100M" ) So, what does that mean? That car was sent back to the factory for the mods??? > From: Healey100M at gmail.com > > Oh, just to further muddy the water, my Heritage Certificate states: > > "The B.M.I.H.T can confirm that this car is a genuine, factory built > Austin Healey 100 M "Le Mans"." > > Le Mans being in quotes and a space between Le & Mans. > > Doesn't that help? :-) > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > '56 100M "Le Mans" > '55 BN1 Dealer "Le Mans" > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com From dthall at btinternet.com Mon Nov 9 10:11:43 2009 From: dthall at btinternet.com (David Hall) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:11:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] DR2 DR3A Wiper Motors Message-ID: <490865.97272.qm@web86404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Would anybody who has wiring diagrams for both wiper motors be kind enough to forward a copy of the drawing or a schematic to me. Regards David Hall From walt2727 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 9 10:48:20 2009 From: walt2727 at yahoo.com (Walt Peterson) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:48:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 3ooo: wires to discs: Message-ID: <819399.57784.qm@web31408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for all the input/expertese on the proposed swap. Still making the decision but all the help will make it a more intelligent decision. Walt P. PS My next question is-- From walt2727 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 9 10:54:26 2009 From: walt2727 at yahoo.com (Walt Peterson) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:54:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 3000 cylinder head ques: Message-ID: <907957.82297.qm@web31402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What is the nominal thickness of a cylinder head? I have a chance to pick up a head that has been "cut" to 3.567" . My guy doesn't know what the machinest started with, to wit. I'd like to know the standard spec. & can't find it in my Haynes Thanks in advance, Walt BT7 Albatross Jabro-Buick Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ah3000me at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 11:20:26 2009 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:20:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio Message-ID: With the driving season coming to an end in this corner of the planet, I'm looking for a couple of winter projects. Does anyone have a schematic for the BMC AM radio in a BJ8? I'm not interested in replacing it with a modern vintage-looking radio, I'd just like to fix the one I have. thanks, Tom From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Mon Nov 9 12:10:13 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:10:13 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <4AF82B67.6070604@chello.nl> References: <20091109065413.UGVU8.669979.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <4AF82B67.6070604@chello.nl> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5302@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Most of my friends use DOT5 and half of them just put DOT 4 out, cleaned a bit and filled in DOT 5 and it worked and still works for 100000nd of miles. I changed it in my cars when restored a car. So brake system was free of DOT4. For me the positive aspects of DOT5 are much more valuable than the small risk of spongy brakes I may have but never realised on 3 different classic cars. You can have brake problems also with DOT4 and even more if you do not change this stuff every 2 years. So what, there is always a risk to drive a car which is not up to date with current safety standards. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Oudesluys Gesendet: Montag, 9. November 2009 15:47 An: Tom Felts Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; Thomas Willig Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Tom, You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. You may have been extremely lucky. Kees Oudesluijs Tom Felts schreef: > ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not a leak or brake problem since. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel > cilinders, callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and > renew/replace the rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS > braiding items from eg Goodridge. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 9 12:18:19 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:18:19 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Wheel Change In-Reply-To: <35672.43155.qm@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <35672.43155.qm@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <289B4880-295C-467E-8ABA-0059C7B2631C@sbcglobal.net> Walt , the conversion to Disc wheels requires several parts. We are in the process of pulling apart a wreck that is a disc wheel car it has the parts you would need to do the conversion. front hubs, rear drums, rear hubs with long studs. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 7, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Walt Peterson wrote: > > What would it entail switching from wires to disc-type wheels? I > like the > wires but after 40 plus years the splines & hubs are worn. I also > like the > mini lite look & the saving of unsprung weight, the relative > simplicity, etc. > Seems a spacer & some longer studs might work in the back, not sure > about the > front. There are more and more events with vintage-friendly rules, > and the > wheels would help there, too. What knowledge/experience do you have? > > Thanks, > > Walt > > BT 7 > Albatross > Jabro-buick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Mon Nov 9 12:21:36 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:21:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0341FF75@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Sam's photo facts is the usual place to go for home radio schematics. You might try there for the car radios. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 12:31:26 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:31:26 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Concours correct tool/jack/jack handle bags In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF525E@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF525E@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: <751d05480911091131y3aa16faej3a91761627fbade@mail.gmail.com> Josef, Contact Roger Moment on the Concours Committee. He make very nice and correct tool roll bags plus the jack bag and jack handle bag. He can also help you with any tool issues since Roger is quite knowledgeable on the stock tools supplied with the cars as well as the BMC aftermarket supplemental tool kits. I have one of these aftermarket tool kits for my 100 which includes a set of four AF Spanners as well as pliers, an F style girder adjustable spanner, cross head screwdriver, AF tube spanner, and a tommy bar. Roger can be reached at... "Roger Moment" Cheers, Curt Arndt -AH Concoures Committee Carlsbad, CA '55 BN1, '60 AN5 :{) '06 Cooper S On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:13 AM, wrote: > This is more for the Concours guys. > Where can i get a new concours correct tool/jack/jack handle bags for a > Healey 100? > Supplied bags here in Europe are of a material which are close to toneau > cover material, but not as the original bags. > Many thanks, > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/GERMANY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 9 12:56:12 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:56:12 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF873DC.9050609@chello.nl> Tom, If you can find the make and type number of the radio (usually on the back or top of the metal housing) it is very likely that it will show results on Google. Some time ago I did the same for an old Philips car radio and an antique Marconiphone V2 radio. The results were astonishing, especially for the latter. Kees Oudesluijs NL Tom schreef: > With the driving season coming to an end in this corner of the planet, > I'm looking for a couple of winter projects. Does anyone have a > schematic for the BMC AM radio in a BJ8? I'm not interested in > replacing it with a modern vintage-looking radio, I'd just like to fix > the one I have. > > thanks, > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 13:17:34 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:17:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <4AF82B67.6070604@chello.nl> References: <20091109065413.UGVU8.669979.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <4AF82B67.6070604@chello.nl> Message-ID: <926E91B2-76FD-4A76-AFAF-954837E2AF96@gmail.com> Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. I have never heard this before. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. > You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the > system will leak like a sieve. From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Nov 9 13:32:33 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:32:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio In-Reply-To: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0341FF75@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0341FF75@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: <003201ca617b$c43834d0$4ca89e70$@rr.com> Hi, Tom - I Googled "Sams Photo Facts" and got to their website. I had no luck finding anything there by searching for "BMC radio" or "BMC" or "British". Maybe if you have a model or other number from the radio you'll have more luck. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Freese, Ken Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:22 PM To: Tom; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] AM Radio Sam's photo facts is the usual place to go for home radio schematics. You might try there for the car radios. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sbyers at ec.rr.com http://www.team.net/archive From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Mon Nov 9 13:45:14 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:45:14 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <8D4333A09700B046A4B0DCDF4A7DE55E35F44A@SERVER.acrea.local> References: <20091109065413.UGVU8.669979.root@ispmxfep11-z01><4AF82B67.6070604@chello.nl> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5302@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> <8D4333A09700B046A4B0DCDF4A7DE55E35F44A@SERVER.acrea.local> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF530A@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Price, Most times we just used an air compressor to pump plenty of air through the system. If you are careful you may clean and dry the master and wheel cylinders separately. One of my more careful friends used some brake cleaner fluid and pumped it through the system before filled with DOT5. My experience is, that in case the rubbers swell, they swell during first 24-48 hours when filled with the DOT5. When the brake pedal is still firm after 48 hours, all is fine. Otherwise it was always the master cylinder which failed. New rubbers/seals there always solved this. Disclaimer: That's just my experience. Josef Eckert 54BN1, 62BT7, 65Sprite -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: R. Price Lindsay [mailto:price at advocateadvisors.com] Gesendet: Montag, 9. November 2009 21:24 An: Eckert, Josef Betreff: RE: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Josef - You note that you just clean out the old Dot4. Is there a product you use or just drain the system, pump some air through it and fill it with Dot5? Price Lindsay '67 BJ 8 From ampole at hotmail.com Mon Nov 9 14:09:34 2009 From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:09:34 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] DR2 DR3A Wiper Motors In-Reply-To: <490865.97272.qm@web86404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <490865.97272.qm@web86404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: David not sure if this helps, but I had a problem with mine and had to figure it out: http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/healeys/2009-05/msg00474.html I also have a Lucas fault finding booklet on my website that gives info, but they add a plug for test purposes, the wire colour codes are different but it shouldnt be hard to transpose the info, see page 42: http://www.austin-healey3000.com/LucasFaultDiagnosisServiceManual.pdf cheers Andy _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/buy/ From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Nov 9 14:29:35 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:29:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF530A@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: <20091109065413.UGVU8.669979.root@ispmxfep11-z01><4AF82B67.6070604@chello.nl> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5302@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> <8D4333A09700B046A4B0DCDF4A7DE55E35F44A@SERVER.acrea.local> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF530A@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: <004801ca6183$bbdccbe0$339663a0$@rr.com> Since alcohol is hygroscopic (absorbs water), when I switched from DOT 3 to DOT 5, after draining the DOT3 I flushed a couple quarts of isopropyl rubbing alcohol through my brake and clutch systems before refilling with DOT 5. The thought was that the alcohol will flush out whatever moisture might be in the system. I never had a problem with leaks or anything else with the brake and clutch systems afterwards. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:45 PM To: price at advocateadvisors.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Price, Most times we just used an air compressor to pump plenty of air through the system. If you are careful you may clean and dry the master and wheel cylinders separately. One of my more careful friends used some brake cleaner fluid and pumped it through the system before filled with DOT5. My experience is, that in case the rubbers swell, they swell during first 24-48 hours when filled with the DOT5. When the brake pedal is still firm after 48 hours, all is fine. Otherwise it was always the master cylinder which failed. New rubbers/seals there always solved this. Disclaimer: That's just my experience. Josef Eckert 54BN1, 62BT7, 65Sprite From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Nov 9 14:31:26 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:31:26 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <926E91B2-76FD-4A76-AFAF-954837E2AF96@gmail.com> References: <20091109065413.UGVU8.669979.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <4AF82B67.6070604@chello.nl> <926E91B2-76FD-4A76-AFAF-954837E2AF96@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've only seen anecdotal evidence of the so-called degradation of existing rubber seals by changing to silicone fluids. Many sources say there is no worry at all. Others say that external parts like boot seals are susceptable to the silicone fluids. Some sources even list the Dot 3-4 fluids as being "compatible" with Dot 5 (silicone) Go figure. Wilko On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is > this something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to > know. > I have never heard this before. > Rick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > >> Tom, >> You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or >> 4. You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the >> system will leak like a sieve. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 9 14:33:07 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:33:07 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <926E91B2-76FD-4A76-AFAF-954837E2AF96@gmail.com> References: <20091109065413.UGVU8.669979.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <4AF82B67.6070604@chello.nl> <926E91B2-76FD-4A76-AFAF-954837E2AF96@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AF88A93.10902@chello.nl> It is something that everyone should know. Ask producers and restorers. Google. I am sure that there are proper research results somewhere. I do not need them as I have seen it happen several times. It may be that people who claim to have had no advers results have used DOT5.1 (a polyalcyleen glycol aether) and not DOT5 (a silicon fluid), two entirely different and incompatible fluids. DOT5.1 is compatible with DOT4 but has similar higher specs (dry and wet boiling points) as DOT5. Kees Oudesluijs NL Richard Ewald schreef: > Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this > something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. > I have never heard this before. > Rick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > >> Tom, >> You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. >> You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the >> system will leak like a sieve. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 9 14:38:18 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:38:18 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF88BCA.7090503@chello.nl> Tom, If it is a factory fitted item two makers come to the surface, Pye and Motorola/Smiths/Lucas, but there may be others. You could try to trace these makes on the internet and see if you can find a model that is identical to yours. I think I have a Motorola lying about somewhere. If you send me a picture of your unit I could compare it with a few I have in my junk boxes. Kees Oudesluijs NL Tom schreef: > With the driving season coming to an end in this corner of the planet, > I'm looking for a couple of winter projects. Does anyone have a > schematic for the BMC AM radio in a BJ8? I'm not interested in > replacing it with a modern vintage-looking radio, I'd just like to fix > the one I have. > > thanks, > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 From rdryman1 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 9 14:42:15 2009 From: rdryman1 at yahoo.com (Richard Dryman) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:42:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio In-Reply-To: <003201ca617b$c43834d0$4ca89e70$@rr.com> References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0341FF75@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> <003201ca617b$c43834d0$4ca89e70$@rr.com> Message-ID: <820759.33349.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I went to Google, Sams and everywhere else--no luck on Panasonic #CR002,AM/FM,chassis#50244, with the 2 FM buttons on the left. Anyone having anything on that would interest. ________________________________ I Googled "Sams Photo Facts" and got to their website. I had no luck finding anything there by searching for "BMC radio" or "BMC" or "British". Maybe if you have a model or other number from the radio you'll have more luck. Steve Byers From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 9 14:47:26 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:47:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <4AF82B67.6070604@chello.nl> Message-ID: <20091109154726.VDQWK.685840.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Could someone tell me the chemical products that are made by mixing the two that supposedly reacts with the rubber seals? To me it either reacts or it doesn't, and it did not with mine. Now--if it takes 10 years, I still have a couple to go. Maybe I haven't waited long enough. tom ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= Tom, You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. You may have been extremely lucky. Kees Oudesluijs Tom Felts schreef: > ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not a leak or brake problem since. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, > callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the > rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg > Goodridge. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 9 14:52:37 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:52:37 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <4AF829D7.6010800@chello.nl> Message-ID: <20091109155237.NOUEY.685969.root@ispmxfep11-z01> less water absorption is a negative??? And----my pedals are in no way spongy. Sorry to defend DOT 5 so strongly, but seems everything I hear bad about it has not happened to me in a very long time of silicone use. ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= Although DOT5 has its advantages in: -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true for DOT5.1) -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic -higher dry and wet boiling point -long life there are also some negative sides to it: -little or no water absorpsion -slightly spongy brake pedal, hence the recommendation to use Teflon SS-braided brake hoses. You will always get some condensation in the brake fluid reservoir and the fluid will also absorb water from the air, even right through the seals. With DOT5 this is to a far lesser degree and eventually water can end up as droplets in the lower regions of the brake system, often in the callipers or brake cilinders, causing havoc. Because of the durability of DOT5 most people tend not to change the fluid regularly, thus the water will not be expelled from the system and this will be the cause of corrosion in the end. DOT3, DOT4 or DOT5.1 is less compressible than DOT5 and will absorb the moisture thus preventing corrosion to a certain point but also the boiling point will be getting to low. That is the reason it should be replaced every 1-3 years, depending on conditions. You can mix DOT4 and 5.1 with DOT3, but you should never top up DOT4 with DOT3 or DOT5.1 with DOT4/DOT3. You cannot mix DOT5 with DOT3/4/5.1. There is also DOT6 but that is for militairy applications only. I know of a lot of people preferring DOT5. I prefer DOT 4 or 5.1 because of its incompressability and water absoption as I am living in a country with often a high humidity. I change the brake fluid in all my cars every 2 years. Kees Oudesluijs NL > Since I can only recommend to use DOT5. Its the best I have ever done as > brakes are concerned. No mess with leaking and paint eating brake fluid > anymore. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > Betreff: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid in the > 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some modifications to the > brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can anybody tell me precisely > what these modifications were?. > > Thomas Willig Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 9 15:09:34 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:09:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <926E91B2-76FD-4A76-AFAF-954837E2AF96@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091109160934.T8FVQ.686511.root@ispmxfep11-z01> The bottle of DOT 5 that I used in my cars years ago warns to not use it in brake systems containing DOT 3/4. It does not say what will happen. My guess is that if you drain the old 3/4 fluid out pretty good before adding 5, you will be OK. A few drops of DOT 3/4 in a system full of DOT 5 is probably not enough to do any harm----so as to "changing" all components before adding 5 to a previously 3/4 system, I think that is overkill---and that is only based on a bunch of people's comments who just drained the 3/4 and added the 5 and have used it w/0 problems for years---including me. tom ---- Richard Ewald wrote: ============= Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. I have never heard this before. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. > You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the > system will leak like a sieve. From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 9 15:10:38 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:10:38 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <4AF88A93.10902@chello.nl> Message-ID: <20091109161038.I3UB7.686535.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Absolutely not-----mine is DEFINITELY DOT 5. ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= It is something that everyone should know. Ask producers and restorers. Google. I am sure that there are proper research results somewhere. I do not need them as I have seen it happen several times. It may be that people who claim to have had no advers results have used DOT5.1 (a polyalcyleen glycol aether) and not DOT5 (a silicon fluid), two entirely different and incompatible fluids. DOT5.1 is compatible with DOT4 but has similar higher specs (dry and wet boiling points) as DOT5. Kees Oudesluijs NL Richard Ewald schreef: > Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this > something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. > I have never heard this before. > Rick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > >> Tom, >> You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. >> You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the >> system will leak like a sieve. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 9 15:28:09 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:28:09 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <20091109154726.VDQWK.685840.root@ispmxfep11-z01> References: <20091109154726.VDQWK.685840.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Message-ID: <4AF89779.90105@chello.nl> Did you use DOT 5 or DOT5.1? DOT5.1 does not have any advers effects on systems with DOT4 previously. If the rubbers do react they do so rather quickly. They may go soft and may not leak if not enough pressure is applied but can fail when high pressure is exerted. Appearantly it does not always happen when the system is thoroughly cleaned, according to some experiences of the list, although it is not clear if this concerns DOT5.1 or DOT5. I have seen several instances when DOT 4 was replaced with DOT5, that the brake system failed spectacularly and the need of a rebuild of the system /replacement of rubber parts was eminent. I would not take any chances with my brake system. Kees Oudesluijs Tom Felts schreef: > Could someone tell me the chemical products that are made by mixing the two that supposedly reacts with the rubber seals? To me it either reacts or it doesn't, and it did not with mine. Now--if it takes 10 years, I still have a couple to go. Maybe I haven't waited long enough. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You > run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will > leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and > clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. > You may have been extremely lucky. > Kees Oudesluijs > > Tom Felts schreef: > >> ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not a leak or brake problem since. >> >> tom >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, >> callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the >> rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg >> Goodridge. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 9 15:36:52 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:36:52 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio In-Reply-To: <820759.33349.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0341FF75@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> <003201ca617b$c43834d0$4ca89e70$@rr.com> <820759.33349.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AF89984.9040508@chello.nl> Try ebay for a while. Kees Oudesluijs NL Richard Dryman schreef: > I went to Google, Sams and everywhere else--no luck on Panasonic > #CR002,AM/FM,chassis#50244, with the 2 FM buttons on the left. Anyone having > anything on that would interest. > > > > > ________________________________ > > I > Googled "Sams Photo Facts" and got to their website. I had no luck > finding > anything there by searching for "BMC radio" or "BMC" or "British". > Maybe if > you have a model or other number from the radio you'll have more > luck. > > Steve > Byers From sales at justbrits.com Mon Nov 9 15:58:25 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:58:25 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio In-Reply-To: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0341FF75@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0341FF75@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: <4AF89E91.8000804@justbrits.com> << Sam's photo facts >> Yep, best hope. Also I do think [NO proof] the BMC units are identical to the Motorola one. Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Nov 9 16:06:11 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:06:11 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <20091109155237.NOUEY.685969.root@ispmxfep11-z01> References: <20091109155237.NOUEY.685969.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Message-ID: <3825E6B4-22E5-414A-9660-5DD29388329C@cox.net> Silicone is known to be more compressible than DOT 4. That's one of the reasons that it is not used or recommended in ABS systems. The fact that it doesn't absorb moisture is bad because instead of suspending moisture, it can cause water to "settle" in brake parts leading to water pockets and/or corrosion from same. Wilko On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:52 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > less water absorption is a negative??? > > And----my pedals are in no way spongy. Sorry to defend DOT 5 so > strongly, but seems everything I hear bad about it has not happened > to me in a very long time of silicone use. > > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Although DOT5 has its advantages in: > > -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true for > DOT5.1) > -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic > -higher dry and wet boiling point > -long life From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Nov 9 16:48:00 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:48:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 References: <20091109154726.VDQWK.685840.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Message-ID: <28F85DAB704B43DB86E517D5D1A9155E@LIFEBOOK> We're really flogging this one again. However I will state that we always completely rebuild all brake components, cylinders, hoses, everything, flush and blow out the old lines to introduce DOT 5 Silicone fluid to any system we work on. One particularly noteworthy occurrence took place about a year after we did a complete job. It was on a Mk 1 Sprite and the owner had taken the car to a local garage for a regular service. Some young employee in the shop had topped up all fluids, including the hydraulic reservoir. He'd use DOT 3 fluid for the top up. Within 2 weeks the owner was experiencing poor clutch pedal, sluggish return and slight leakage at the clutch slave cylinder. We found the problem, completely flushed everything again with silicone fluid, rebuilt the slave and it's been all right now for the last 5 years. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "Oudesluys" Cc: ; "Thomas Willig" Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Could someone tell me the chemical products that are made by mixing the > two that supposedly reacts with the rubber seals? To me it either reacts > or it doesn't, and it did not with mine. Now--if it takes 10 years, I > still have a couple to go. Maybe I haven't waited long enough. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You > run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will > leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and > clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. > You may have been extremely lucky. > Kees Oudesluijs > > Tom Felts schreef: >> ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is >> different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 >> and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not >> a leak or brake problem since. >> >> tom >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, >> callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the >> rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg >> Goodridge. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From autofarm at cyg.net Mon Nov 9 16:51:32 2009 From: autofarm at cyg.net (Bob Yule) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:51:32 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 References: <20091109154726.VDQWK.685840.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Message-ID: <9C6BBC14F1814D33898680AC14AFB85D@OFFICE> The problem with DOT 5 silicone fluid is that it is not compatible with natural rubber. In older systems, many of them had natural rubber seals and the DOT 5 fluid makes them go spongy and leak. DOT 3/4 and DOT 5 fluids will not mix, so you finish up with separate layers of fluids in the brake system. Draining a system that has neoprene or synthetic rubber seals and then refilling with DOT 5 should not cause any adverse effects. However, we always rinse the system with alcohol before changing to a different fluid. Cheers.......Bob Check out our web site www.autofarm.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "Oudesluys" Cc: ; "Thomas Willig" Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Could someone tell me the chemical products that are made by mixing the > two that supposedly reacts with the rubber seals? To me it either reacts > or it doesn't, and it did not with mine. Now--if it takes 10 years, I > still have a couple to go. Maybe I haven't waited long enough. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You > run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will > leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and > clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. > You may have been extremely lucky. > Kees Oudesluijs > > Tom Felts schreef: >> ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is >> different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 >> and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not >> a leak or brake problem since. >> >> tom >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, >> callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the >> rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg >> Goodridge. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as autofarm at cyg.net > > http://www.team.net/archive -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.57/2492 - Release Date: 11/09/09 12:11:00 From glemon at neb.rr.com Mon Nov 9 17:18:36 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:18:36 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <3825E6B4-22E5-414A-9660-5DD29388329C@cox.net> References: <20091109155237.NOUEY.685969.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <3825E6B4-22E5-414A-9660-5DD29388329C@cox.net> Message-ID: If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get into the system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you might get some condensation but very small volume of air to get any appreciable amount of air in the system for it to condense out of, likewise some condensation when the system is open (cap off) but cant see again how an appreciable amount would get into the system limited surface area (and time) for condensation to occur. Also, Count me as one who converted without doing more than blowing out the sytem with air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice any difference in pedal feel. Greg Lemon From frogeye at porterscustom.com Mon Nov 9 17:18:59 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <20091109161038.I3UB7.686535.root@ispmxfep11-z01> References: <4AF88A93.10902@chello.nl> <20091109161038.I3UB7.686535.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Message-ID: What color is it? dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Felts Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:11 PM To: Richard Ewald; Oudesluys Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; Thomas Willig Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Absolutely not-----mine is DEFINITELY DOT 5. ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= It is something that everyone should know. Ask producers and restorers. Google. I am sure that there are proper research results somewhere. I do not need them as I have seen it happen several times. It may be that people who claim to have had no advers results have used DOT5.1 (a polyalcyleen glycol aether) and not DOT5 (a silicon fluid), two entirely different and incompatible fluids. DOT5.1 is compatible with DOT4 but has similar higher specs (dry and wet boiling points) as DOT5. Kees Oudesluijs NL Richard Ewald schreef: > Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this > something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. > I have never heard this before. > Rick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > >> Tom, >> You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. >> You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the >> system will leak like a sieve. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Mon Nov 9 17:24:03 2009 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:24:03 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> G'day Michael Oh dear! Been away in the depths of Victoria for a few days and I come back to the biggest faux pas of them all. I just have to keep reminding you blokes that the cars you own are not "REAL Healeys", they are Austin-Healeys. While the Austin-Healey 100 is most certainly the purest to the original design it is still an Austin-Healey. Generally real Healeys were built between 1946 and 1954 and were fitted with Riley, Alvis or Nash engines. Plus the late 1960s/early 1970s did see a handful of real Healeys fitted with BMC, Coventry Climax and Repco engines. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Awgertoo at aol.com Sent: Saturday, 7 November 2009 12:51 AM To: coudesluijs at chello.nl; tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Keese-- You have it backwards: The proper spelling IS "Austin (Hyphen) Healey". Only when some badge supplier screwed up and the factory saw an opportunity to save some $$ by accepting badges that said "Austin (NO HYPHEN) Healey" did such a badge appear on an AH. Besides, the badges on all 100's are hyphenated and as we know 100's are the REAL Healeys. Best--Michael Oritt ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 9 17:31:07 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:31:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <3825E6B4-22E5-414A-9660-5DD29388329C@cox.net> References: <20091109155237.NOUEY.685969.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <3825E6B4-22E5-414A-9660-5DD29388329C@cox.net> Message-ID: <9579647E-9605-4A8F-AF4A-ACEE16AB02C5@sbcglobal.net> This comes up about every 6 months or so and all I will say is that if you purchase a Girling cylinder or kit in the instructions it clearly states that if you use Silicone fluid your warranty is VOID. On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > Silicone is known to be more compressible than DOT 4. That's one of > the reasons that it is not used or recommended in ABS systems. > > The fact that it doesn't absorb moisture is bad because instead of > suspending moisture, it can cause water to "settle" in brake parts > leading to water pockets and/or corrosion from same. > > Wilko > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:52 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > >> less water absorption is a negative??? >> >> And----my pedals are in no way spongy. Sorry to defend DOT 5 so >> strongly, but seems everything I hear bad about it has not >> happened to me in a very long time of silicone use. >> >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Although DOT5 has its advantages in: >> >> -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true for >> DOT5.1) >> -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic >> -higher dry and wet boiling point >> -long life > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Nov 9 17:46:04 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:46:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: References: <20091109155237.NOUEY.685969.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <3825E6B4-22E5-414A-9660-5DD29388329C@cox.net> Message-ID: That moisture "issue" is, at best, overblown by almost everyone. Particulate contamination from use will wreck your fluid faster than anything. On Nov 9, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get > into the system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you > might get some condensation but very small volume of air to get any > appreciable amount of air in the system for it to condense out of, > likewise some condensation when the system is open (cap off) but > cant see again how an appreciable amount would get into the system > limited surface area (and time) for condensation to occur. Also, > Count me as one who converted without doing more than blowing out > the sytem with air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice any > difference in pedal feel. > > Greg Lemon From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 18:04:29 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:04:29 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: References: <20091109065413.UGVU8.669979.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <4AF82B67.6070604@chello.nl> <926E91B2-76FD-4A76-AFAF-954837E2AF96@gmail.com> Message-ID: Eric / Rick - This happened to me in 1987 with my BJ8 when I tried to switch to Dot 5 (it was purple color). All my seals went bad and I had to rebuild my complete brake system. I think the new silicone fluids are much better at matching the swelling characteristics of Dot 3/4, so probably less of a problem now. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > I've only seen anecdotal evidence of the so-called degradation of existing > rubber seals by changing to silicone fluids. > > Many sources say there is no worry at all. Others say that external parts > like boot seals are susceptable to the silicone fluids. > > Some sources even list the Dot 3-4 fluids as being "compatible" with Dot 5 > (silicone) > > Go figure. > > Wilko > > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > > Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this >> something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. >> I have never heard this before. >> Rick >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: >> >> Tom, >>> You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You >>> run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will >>> leak like a sieve. From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Mon Nov 9 18:52:15 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:52:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio In-Reply-To: <4AF89984.9040508@chello.nl> References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0341FF75@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> <003201ca617b$c43834d0$4ca89e70$@rr.com> <820759.33349.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4AF89984.9040508@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4AF8C74F.5050500@comcast.net> Kees: << Try ebay for a while. >> IMHO, he would be WAY ahead by just going to Panasonic !! K.I.S.S. Ed Please visit MY site ay: www.justbrits.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 18:52:28 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:52:28 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] DR2 DR3A Wiper Motors In-Reply-To: <490865.97272.qm@web86404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <490865.97272.qm@web86404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: David - Anything you've ever wanted to know about the working principles of the DR2 Wiper motor are on pages 14 - 25 here: http://www.healey6.com/Lucas%20Course/Lucas%20technical%20correspondence%20course%20-%20session%208.pdf In addition, a sample wiring circuit is on page 16 here (with wire color): http://www.healey6.com/Lucas%20Course/Lucas%20technical%20correspondence%20course%20-%20session%206.pdf If you are looking for the wiring diagram for your specific Healey, you should refer to your shop manual. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:11 AM, David Hall wrote: > Would anybody who has wiring diagrams for both wiper motors be kind enough > to > forward a copy of the drawing or a schematic to me. > Regards David Hall From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Mon Nov 9 18:52:59 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:52:59 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?silcone_brake_fluid?= Message-ID: <20091110015259.12483.qmail@server278.com> when i was stationed in germany, all the military vehicles we had used silicone brake fluid. i drained out the DOT 3 and replaced with silicone. no one told me and i never read where i was supposed to replace anything. i did not even blow out the lines. i kept the silicone in for about 15 years until i actually had to buy it, then quit using it. i do not remember ever having any problem with it at all. hjim From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 18:56:24 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:56:24 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: References: <20091109155237.NOUEY.685969.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <3825E6B4-22E5-414A-9660-5DD29388329C@cox.net> Message-ID: Hi Greg - Water is normal in the brake system, and Dot 5 floats on water, which means any air humidity or condensation will eventually sink to the bottom of your brakes over time. Probably not much of a risk if you use your car all the time, but probably would be smart to do a partial bleed of brakes every couple of years to purge the system of any potential low sitting water. Dot 3/4 absorbs water, so it's less of an issue from the corrosion standpoint, well atleast if your fluid isn't too old. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Greg Lemon wrote: > If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get into the > system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you might get some > condensation but very small volume of air to get any appreciable amount of > air in the system for it to condense out of, likewise some condensation when > the system is open (cap off) but cant see again how an appreciable amount > would get into the system limited surface area (and time) for condensation > to occur. Also, Count me as one who converted without doing more than > blowing out the sytem with air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice > any difference in pedal feel. > > Greg Lemon From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Nov 9 18:57:51 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:57:51 EST Subject: [Healeys] Silicone (Dot5) andGlycol (Dot 3, 4, 5.1) brake fluids Message-ID: In a message dated 11/9/09 2:23:23 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or > >> 4. You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the > >> system will leak like a sieve. > Sheesh! it always amazes me when these discussions rear their heads again. The key difference between (unrestored) 100s and later cars is that the early cars used real rubber in the seals and hoses, and later cars used a synthetic mix of rubber and other stuff. All brake fluid is formulated to cause the seals to swell a bit so that they will, well, seal. Silicone fluid uses different additives than glycol fluid, and the additives are not compatible, cancelling one another out, hence the cautions not to mix them, and to flush out the glycol if and when switching to silicone. The additives in silicone don't work on natural rubber, and in fact will cause natural rubber to degrade. So, bottom lines (repeating these for the umpteenth time): If you wish to use silicone fluid in a system that still has its original seals, replace the seals with new ones. If you wish to use silicone in a system that has had glycol in it, flush out the system with e.g. brake cleaner or alcohol. Silicone has the advantages of greater longevity, is not damaging to paint, and is good in cars that are driven infrequently, so every classic car museum of which I'm aware uses silicone fluid in its cars. Glycol has the advantage of providing a firmer pedal, but must be replaced more often, and is very damaging to paint. Glycol and silicone can not be mixed without losing the integrity of the braking system. Even silicone fluid should be bled out and replaced every few years. Cheers Gary From sales at justbrits.com Mon Nov 9 19:05:58 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:05:58 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: [Spridgets] Interesting cars for sale] Message-ID: <4AF8CA86.5090003@justbrits.com> From a pal of mine on the Spridgets List. He IS quite LBC knowledgeable. -------- Original Message -------- So the weird 70 degree temps continued today and I drove the Alfa to work. In my little town of Roscoe IL I drove by an orange Datsun 2000 roadster for sale (rough shape), and 2 miles down the road a white chrome bumpered MGB (nice shape). If anyone has any real interest, let me know and I'll be more than happy to check them out. This is ~90 miles west of Chicago, 45 south of Madison WI. If anybody is interested, lemme know & I'll put you in contact. Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 9 19:57:32 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:57:32 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <28F85DAB704B43DB86E517D5D1A9155E@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <20091109205732.K8OCH.694367.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Rich--I'd say there is a big difference in dumping DOT 3 fluid into the silicone system than what little DOT 3/4 is left after draining and then adding silicone. Thus the comparison is not credible--IMO anyway. ---- Rich C wrote: ============= We're really flogging this one again. However I will state that we always completely rebuild all brake components, cylinders, hoses, everything, flush and blow out the old lines to introduce DOT 5 Silicone fluid to any system we work on. One particularly noteworthy occurrence took place about a year after we did a complete job. It was on a Mk 1 Sprite and the owner had taken the car to a local garage for a regular service. Some young employee in the shop had topped up all fluids, including the hydraulic reservoir. He'd use DOT 3 fluid for the top up. Within 2 weeks the owner was experiencing poor clutch pedal, sluggish return and slight leakage at the clutch slave cylinder. We found the problem, completely flushed everything again with silicone fluid, rebuilt the slave and it's been all right now for the last 5 years. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "Oudesluys" Cc: ; "Thomas Willig" Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Could someone tell me the chemical products that are made by mixing the > two that supposedly reacts with the rubber seals? To me it either reacts > or it doesn't, and it did not with mine. Now--if it takes 10 years, I > still have a couple to go. Maybe I haven't waited long enough. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You > run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will > leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and > clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. > You may have been extremely lucky. > Kees Oudesluijs > > Tom Felts schreef: >> ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is >> different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 >> and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not >> a leak or brake problem since. >> >> tom >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, >> callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the >> rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg >> Goodridge. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 9 19:58:38 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:58:38 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <9C6BBC14F1814D33898680AC14AFB85D@OFFICE> Message-ID: <20091109205838.Q5468.694401.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Thanks Bob---I needed that:):):) tom ---- Bob Yule wrote: ============= The problem with DOT 5 silicone fluid is that it is not compatible with natural rubber. In older systems, many of them had natural rubber seals and the DOT 5 fluid makes them go spongy and leak. DOT 3/4 and DOT 5 fluids will not mix, so you finish up with separate layers of fluids in the brake system. Draining a system that has neoprene or synthetic rubber seals and then refilling with DOT 5 should not cause any adverse effects. However, we always rinse the system with alcohol before changing to a different fluid. Cheers.......Bob Check out our web site www.autofarm.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "Oudesluys" Cc: ; "Thomas Willig" Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Could someone tell me the chemical products that are made by mixing the > two that supposedly reacts with the rubber seals? To me it either reacts > or it doesn't, and it did not with mine. Now--if it takes 10 years, I > still have a couple to go. Maybe I haven't waited long enough. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You > run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will > leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and > clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. > You may have been extremely lucky. > Kees Oudesluijs > > Tom Felts schreef: >> ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is >> different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 >> and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not >> a leak or brake problem since. >> >> tom >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, >> callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the >> rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg >> Goodridge. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as autofarm at cyg.net > > http://www.team.net/archive -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.57/2492 - Release Date: 11/09/09 12:11:00 From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 9 20:01:09 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:01:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091109210109.N9Z3Q.694500.root@ispmxfep11-z01> purple ---- Dave Porter wrote: ============= What color is it? dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Felts Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:11 PM To: Richard Ewald; Oudesluys Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; Thomas Willig Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Absolutely not-----mine is DEFINITELY DOT 5. ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= It is something that everyone should know. Ask producers and restorers. Google. I am sure that there are proper research results somewhere. I do not need them as I have seen it happen several times. It may be that people who claim to have had no advers results have used DOT5.1 (a polyalcyleen glycol aether) and not DOT5 (a silicon fluid), two entirely different and incompatible fluids. DOT5.1 is compatible with DOT4 but has similar higher specs (dry and wet boiling points) as DOT5. Kees Oudesluijs NL Richard Ewald schreef: > Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this > something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. > I have never heard this before. > Rick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > >> Tom, >> You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. >> You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the >> system will leak like a sieve. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 9 20:04:20 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:04:20 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <9579647E-9605-4A8F-AF4A-ACEE16AB02C5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20091109210420.0DKT2.694623.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Don't suppose they said why? Are we to assume why? ---- David Nock wrote: ============= This comes up about every 6 months or so and all I will say is that if you purchase a Girling cylinder or kit in the instructions it clearly states that if you use Silicone fluid your warranty is VOID. On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > Silicone is known to be more compressible than DOT 4. That's one of > the reasons that it is not used or recommended in ABS systems. > > The fact that it doesn't absorb moisture is bad because instead of > suspending moisture, it can cause water to "settle" in brake parts > leading to water pockets and/or corrosion from same. > > Wilko > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:52 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > >> less water absorption is a negative??? >> >> And----my pedals are in no way spongy. Sorry to defend DOT 5 so >> strongly, but seems everything I hear bad about it has not >> happened to me in a very long time of silicone use. >> >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Although DOT5 has its advantages in: >> >> -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true for >> DOT5.1) >> -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic >> -higher dry and wet boiling point >> -long life > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From ggilliam at usol.com Mon Nov 9 20:27:17 2009 From: ggilliam at usol.com (ggilliam at usol.com) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:27:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] silcone brake fluid - Sideline In-Reply-To: <20091110015259.12483.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091110015259.12483.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: As a side element to military vehicles using silicone brake fluid, GM had a contract to build a large number of HD crewcab pickups, suburbans, etc for the gov. Since silicone anything is a severe quality issue in the paint areas of the assembly plant, the brake systems were not filled on the assembly line as all the usual trucks were. Instead they built small filling facility out by the rail ship yard about a half a mile away from the assembly building(Flint MI). On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:52:59 +0000, wrote: > when i was stationed in germany, all the military vehicles we had used > silicone brake fluid. i drained out the DOT 3 and replaced with silicone. > no one told me and i never read where i was supposed to replace anything. > i did not even blow out the lines. i kept the silicone in for about 15 > years until i actually had to buy it, then quit using it. i do not > remember ever having any problem with it at all. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ggilliam at usol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From peter.svilans at rogers.com Mon Nov 9 20:44:41 2009 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:44:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio Message-ID: <002601ca61b8$2397ad20$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> When talking about factory radios, the BJ8 was fitted with different models of Smiths Radiomobile for different years: 1964: manual- model 62 T pushbutton- model 902 T 1965-66: manual- model 72-T pushbutton- model 972 T 1968: manual- model RM 72 pushbutton- model RM 972 Manuals for over 100 models of Radiomobile can be bought from: http://www.savoy-hill.co.uk/ You pay, then get a link to their download page by email. Best Peter From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Mon Nov 9 21:26:36 2009 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:26:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 3000 cylinder head ques: References: <907957.82297.qm@web31402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: To the best of my knowledge, a stock head is 3.685". I have two heads that have been around for years and that is what they measure.. John Snyder > > What is the nominal thickness of a cylinder head? I have a chance to pick > up a > head that has been "cut" to 3.567" . My guy doesn't know what the > machinest > started with, to wit. I'd like to know the standard spec. & can't find it > in > my Haynes > > Thanks in advance, > > Walt > > BT7 > Albatross > Jabro-Buick From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Tue Nov 10 00:44:43 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:44:43 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5390@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Patrick, You may have to add: Austin-Healeys were built by BMC in Longbridge and Abingdon and not by Healey, except the first 20. So we may have to call them badge engineered MGs. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Quinn, Patrick Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. November 2009 01:24 An: 'Awgertoo at aol.com' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] E bay G'day Michael Oh dear! Been away in the depths of Victoria for a few days and I come back to the biggest faux pas of them all. I just have to keep reminding you blokes that the cars you own are not "REAL Healeys", they are Austin-Healeys. While the Austin-Healey 100 is most certainly the purest to the original design it is still an Austin-Healey. Generally real Healeys were built between 1946 and 1954 and were fitted with Riley, Alvis or Nash engines. Plus the late 1960s/early 1970s did see a handful of real Healeys fitted with BMC, Coventry Climax and Repco engines. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 10 01:07:32 2009 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:07:32 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> Message-ID: <+1fH1ACE9R+KFwWl@jharper.demon.co.uk> Patrick I am about to say something with a cheeky smile on my face. One could say that that only the early BN1s with the spiral bevel, 4 stud rear axle were true Austin-Healeys. After that BMC major units replaced the Austin. By the time that the last 3000 was manufactured the cars should have been badged BMC-Healey! Regards > >Oh dear! Been away in the depths of Victoria for a few days and I come back to >the biggest faux pas of them all. > >I just have to keep reminding you blokes that the cars you own are not "REAL >Healeys", they are Austin-Healeys. > >While the Austin-Healey 100 is most certainly the purest to the original >design it is still an Austin-Healey. > >Generally real Healeys were built between 1946 and 1954 and were fitted with >Riley, Alvis or Nash engines. Plus the late 1960s/early 1970s did see a >handful of real Healeys fitted with BMC, Coventry Climax and Repco engines. > >Hoo Roo > >Patrick Quinn -- John Harper From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 01:23:38 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:23:38 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5390@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5390@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: Josef - To say such a thing is *verboten*! If you mention MG again we'll have you drawn and quartered. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM, wrote: > Patrick, > You may have to add: Austin-Healeys were built by BMC in Longbridge and > Abingdon and not by Healey, except the first 20. > So we may have to call them badge engineered MGs. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/GERMANY From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Tue Nov 10 01:39:38 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:39:38 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5390@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF53E3@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Alan, Here we are seriously thinking to have events together with our ".."-friends. Two weeks ago there was a meeting ".."-Club/Austin-Healey Club officials to have a ".."/Healey-Weekend organised next year. Here often people own cars of both marques and what we want is to meet same minded people, not looking what kind of car they own. So we have them really as close friends sharing the same hobby. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY ________________________________ Von: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. November 2009 09:24 An: Eckert, Josef Cc: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au; Healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] E bay Josef - To say such a thing is verboten! If you mention MG again we'll have you drawn and quartered. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM, wrote: Patrick, You may have to add: Austin-Healeys were built by BMC in Longbridge and Abingdon and not by Healey, except the first 20. So we may have to call them badge engineered MGs. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 01:51:38 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:38 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF53E3@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5390@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF53E3@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: Josef - I was joking! I used to have an MGB. I sold it because it was about as fast as an Isetta... don't tell the MGB owners about how I had to replace the rubber A-arm bushings every 3000 miles or so... or how it caught on fire because the carbs were conveniently placed over the catalytic converter... Fun!! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM, wrote: > Alan, > Here we are seriously thinking to have events together with our > ".."-friends. Two weeks ago there was a meeting ".."-Club/Austin-Healey > Club officials to have a ".."/Healey-Weekend organised next year. Here often > people own cars of both marques and what we want is to meet same minded > people, not looking what kind of car they own. > So we have them really as close friends sharing the same hobby. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/GERMANY > > ------------------------------ > *Von:* Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] > *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 10. November 2009 09:24 > *An:* Eckert, Josef > *Cc:* Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au; Healeys at autox.team.net > > *Betreff:* Re: [Healeys] E bay > > Josef - > > To say such a thing is *verboten*! If you mention MG again we'll have you > drawn and quartered. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Nov 10 02:07:26 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:07:26 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: References: <4AF88A93.10902@chello.nl> <20091109161038.I3UB7.686535.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Message-ID: <4AF92D4E.5070801@chello.nl> Should be blue. Kees Oudesluijs NL Dave Porter schreef: > What color is it? > dave > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 > Porter Custom Bicycles From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 10 02:17:33 2009 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:17:33 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5390@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5390@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: Josef You wouldn't dare say that Longbridge built badge engineered MGs to a long serving Austin apprentice. In fact this is quite untrue. I worked at BMC Service for a while and the rivalry between Austin and Morris apprentices was intense. So much so that it still lingers on with those now retired. Regards >You may have to add: Austin-Healeys were built by BMC in Longbridge and >Abingdon and not by Healey, except the first 20. >So we may have to call them badge engineered MGs. > >Josef Eckert >Konigswinter/GERMANY > > -- John Harper From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Nov 10 02:23:27 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:23:27 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: References: <20091109155237.NOUEY.685969.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <3825E6B4-22E5-414A-9660-5DD29388329C@cox.net> Message-ID: <4AF9310F.1040706@chello.nl> The relative humidity inside and outside the brake fluid reservoir is the same as it is in open connection with the outside world even through the small breathing hole. So if you have large differences in temperature during day and night in a humid climate you have some condensation inside the reservoir, especially if the car is parked outside. Granted it is very little but it will add up in time. Kees Oudesluijs NL Greg Lemon schreef: > If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get into > the system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you might > get some condensation but very small volume of air to get any > appreciable amount of air in the system for it to condense out of, > likewise some condensation when the system is open (cap off) but cant > see again how an appreciable amount would get into the system limited > surface area (and time) for condensation to occur. Also, Count me as > one who converted without doing more than blowing out the sytem with > air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice any difference in > pedal feel. > > Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Nov 10 02:35:34 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:35:34 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5390@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF53E3@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: <4AF933E6.2040700@chello.nl> Austin-Healey made by Jensen. Sorry. Kees Oudesluijs NL From aon.912808691 at aon.at Tue Nov 10 03:35:17 2009 From: aon.912808691 at aon.at (Reinhart Rosner (aon)) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:35:17 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <4AF9310F.1040706@chello.nl> References: <20091109155237.NOUEY.685969.root@ispmxfep11-z01><3825E6B4-22E5-414A-9660-5DD29388329C@cox.net> <4AF9310F.1040706@chello.nl> Message-ID: And as all bad things that you do not want in your car it easier gets in than out. Reinhart Reinhart Rosner 55 AH 100 BN1 Vienna - Austria -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Oudesluys Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. November 2009 10:23 An: Greg Lemon Cc: Healeys List Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 The relative humidity inside and outside the brake fluid reservoir is the same as it is in open connection with the outside world even through the small breathing hole. So if you have large differences in temperature during day and night in a humid climate you have some condensation inside the reservoir, especially if the car is parked outside. Granted it is very little but it will add up in time. Kees Oudesluijs NL Greg Lemon schreef: > If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get into > the system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you might > get some condensation but very small volume of air to get any > appreciable amount of air in the system for it to condense out of, > likewise some condensation when the system is open (cap off) but cant > see again how an appreciable amount would get into the system limited > surface area (and time) for condensation to occur. Also, Count me as > one who converted without doing more than blowing out the sytem with > air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice any difference in > pedal feel. > > Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as aon.912808691 at aon.at http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Nov 10 04:57:19 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:57:19 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5390@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF53E3@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: <4AF9551F.1050003@chello.nl> MGB and a catalitic converter? Tell me more. Kees Oudesluijs NL Alan Seigrist schreef: > Josef - > > I was joking! > > I used to have an MGB. I sold it because it was about as fast as an > Isetta... don't tell the MGB owners about how I had to replace the rubber > A-arm bushings every 3000 miles or so... or how it caught on fire because > the carbs were conveniently placed over the catalytic converter... Fun!! > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM, wrote: > > >> Alan, >> Here we are seriously thinking to have events together with our >> ".."-friends. Two weeks ago there was a meeting ".."-Club/Austin-Healey >> Club officials to have a ".."/Healey-Weekend organised next year. Here often >> people own cars of both marques and what we want is to meet same minded >> people, not looking what kind of car they own. >> So we have them really as close friends sharing the same hobby. >> >> Josef Eckert >> Konigswinter/GERMANY >> >> ------------------------------ >> *Von:* Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] >> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 10. November 2009 09:24 >> *An:* Eckert, Josef >> *Cc:* Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au; Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> *Betreff:* Re: [Healeys] E bay >> >> Josef - >> >> To say such a thing is *verboten*! If you mention MG again we'll have you >> drawn and quartered. >> >> Alan >> >> '52 A90 >> '53 BN1 >> '59 Jag Mk IX >> '64 BJ8 >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.58/2493 - Release Date: 11/09/09 19:40:00 From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 05:28:14 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:28:14 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: <4AF9551F.1050003@chello.nl> References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5390@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF53E3@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> <4AF9551F.1050003@chello.nl> Message-ID: As Arnold Schwartzenegger would say, "Welkohm tooh Kahlifonia" http://www.google.com/products?q=mgb+catalytic+converter&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADBF_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=9Vv5SrHKB9CJkQWLgLWnCw&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQrQQwAA Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Oudesluys wrote: > MGB and a catalitic converter? Tell me more. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Alan Seigrist schreef: > >> Josef - >> >> I was joking! >> >> I used to have an MGB. I sold it because it was about as fast as an >> Isetta... don't tell the MGB owners about how I had to replace the rubber >> A-arm bushings every 3000 miles or so... or how it caught on fire because >> the carbs were conveniently placed over the catalytic converter... Fun!! >> >> Alan >> >> '52 A90 >> '53 BN1 >> '59 Jag Mk IX >> '64 BJ8 From kentmclean at comcast.net Tue Nov 10 05:41:27 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:41:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF95F77.9040006@comcast.net> Patrick Quinn wrote: > I just have to keep reminding you blokes that the cars you own are not "REAL > Healeys", they are Austin-Healeys. > > While the Austin-Healey 100 is most certainly the purest to the original > design it is still an Austin-Healey. But for one brief, shining moment, the car stood on a stand at Earl's Court in 1952 as a Healey 100 -- no hyphen, no Austin. Then Leonard Lord got to DMH, and it became an Austin-Healey. So the Healey 100, at least that one example, is a "REAL Healey". The thousands that followed are Austin-Healeys. I have one of the rare non-M models. :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Nov 10 05:52:26 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:52:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio In-Reply-To: <002601ca61b8$2397ad20$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> References: <002601ca61b8$2397ad20$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> Message-ID: <000401ca6204$a7ae4e10$f70aea30$@rr.com> For what it's worth, the following radios, in addition to those listed by Peter below, are given on BMIHT certificates for BJ8s. The dates in parentheses are build dates for the cars that got these radios: R.602T (Jan - Feb '64) R.900T (Feb - May '64) LE88 (Oct '64) R.70T (Jan - Feb '66, Sep '67) R.970T (Apr - May '66, Mar '67) R.470T (Oct '66) I wouldn't be surprised if some of the above are not typos -- for example, R.70T and R.470T for R970T -- because the BMIHT certificates frequently have mistakes. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Svilans Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:45 PM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio When talking about factory radios, the BJ8 was fitted with different models of Smiths Radiomobile for different years: 1964: manual- model 62 T pushbutton- model 902 T 1965-66: manual- model 72-T pushbutton- model 972 T 1968: manual- model RM 72 pushbutton- model RM 972 Manuals for over 100 models of Radiomobile can be bought from: http://www.savoy-hill.co.uk/ You pay, then get a link to their download page by email. Best Peter From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Nov 10 06:07:48 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:07:48 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5390@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF53E3@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> <4AF9551F.1050003@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4AF965A4.9050809@chello.nl> Were they legally required after market items? Kees Oudesluijs From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 06:26:01 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:26:01 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: <4AF965A4.9050809@chello.nl> References: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DB0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF5390@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3AF53E3@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> <4AF9551F.1050003@chello.nl> <4AF965A4.9050809@chello.nl> Message-ID: No, factory spec 75 to 80 in the US. On 11/10/09, Oudesluys wrote: > Were they legally required after market items? > Kees Oudesluijs > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 10 06:32:57 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:32:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT 5 Message-ID: My experience with bleeding both DOT 3/4 and DOT 5 into the same container is that the Silicone floats on top of the DOT 3/4. In a wheel cylinder, master cylinder, brake union, or caliper it would do the same. My personal advice is to flush it out with rubbing alcohol either way you go. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Nov 10 06:36:38 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 7:36:38 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <4AF92D4E.5070801@chello.nl> Message-ID: <20091110073638.10B5X.697440.root@ispmxfep10-z02> What should be blue---DOT 5 or DOT 5.1? Mine is DOT 5 and it is purple. Made by AGS Company, Muskegon, Mi, USA. ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= Should be blue. Kees Oudesluijs NL Dave Porter schreef: > What color is it? > dave > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 > Porter Custom Bicycles From austin.healey at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 07:55:05 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:05 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <20091109210420.0DKT2.694623.root@ispmxfep11-z01> References: <20091109210420.0DKT2.694623.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Message-ID: I still use Dot 4. Changed every year or so. For all the pedal issues/ have to change everything/ flush everything issues we have all heard for years - I never changed. Just mentioned this to a good mate who has been racing sprites for over 30 years, and who runs a very successful business rebuilding/ maintaining spridgets, and he said 'huh- been running dot 5 in race cars for over 10 years' I'll probably go dot 5 next month when I rebuild the whole hydraulic system in my BJ8 So is it 5 or 5.1? Already have rebuilt calipers/ 3 new hoses/ rebuilt bj8 booster/ clutch& brake master cyl kits for my s/s sleeved master cyls & clutch s/cyl and nos rear wheels cyls. Comments? Chris www.myaustinhealey.com Sent from my iPhone On 10/11/2009, at 2:04 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > Don't suppose they said why? Are we to assume why? > > > ---- David Nock wrote: > > ============= > This comes up about every 6 months or so and all I will say is that > if you purchase a Girling cylinder or kit in the instructions it > clearly states that if you use Silicone fluid your warranty is VOID. > > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > >> Silicone is known to be more compressible than DOT 4. That's one of >> the reasons that it is not used or recommended in ABS systems. >> >> The fact that it doesn't absorb moisture is bad because instead of >> suspending moisture, it can cause water to "settle" in brake parts >> leading to water pockets and/or corrosion from same. >> >> Wilko >> >> On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:52 PM, Tom Felts wrote: >> >>> less water absorption is a negative??? >>> >>> And----my pedals are in no way spongy. Sorry to defend DOT 5 so >>> strongly, but seems everything I hear bad about it has not >>> happened to me in a very long time of silicone use. >>> >>> >>> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >>> >>> ============= >>> Although DOT5 has its advantages in: >>> >>> -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true >>> for >>> DOT5.1) >>> -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic >>> -higher dry and wet boiling point >>> -long life From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Tue Nov 10 08:08:31 2009 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:08:31 EST Subject: [Healeys] E bay... M-Models Message-ID: Just to add in my two cents about the "M" models, I guess I own the earliest M of all. According to my Body Production Card, Form 141, C.A.B. Serial #146497(hand written in), my car is actually a B.M.1., H.P. of 16, Body No. 598(hand written in), Body Type, HEALEY SPORTS. It's build date is 29 October 1953. I'm sure the B.M.1. is a typo on the card, but I I guess that make it an M non the less. Steven Kingsbury BM1 #598 In a message dated 11/10/2009 5:24:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kentmclean at comcast.net writes: Patrick Quinn wrote: > I just have to keep reminding you blokes that the cars you own are not "REAL > Healeys", they are Austin-Healeys. > > While the Austin-Healey 100 is most certainly the purest to the original > design it is still an Austin-Healey. But for one brief, shining moment, the car stood on a stand at Earl's Court in 1952 as a Healey 100 -- no hyphen, no Austin. Then Leonard Lord got to DMH, and it became an Austin-Healey. So the Healey 100, at least that one example, is a "REAL Healey". The thousands that followed are Austin-Healeys. I have one of the rare non-M models. :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as atightprod at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 08:17:26 2009 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:17:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio Message-ID: <48720d20911100717l4d50903bg8c5d63279b914d33@mail.gmail.com> Did I mess something in the thread? Panasonic? The manufacturers leaned early on that it was easier to source radios in the US than ship them and pay taxes.I have seen a number of radios, and the primary manufacturers, the ones that put the logo or BMC designation on them were either Motorola or Automatic Electric. That didn't mean that a number of after market radios wouldn't fit. Most had a way to move the shafts to fit the car opening, although the ones that could reverse polarity were usually designed for the British car market, and probably either of the above. Try and find a model number, return to Sams, and forget searching BMC, or any British car name. If you are desperate, there are a number of places that advertise in Hemmings that will fix the radio, but at great cost. Jack From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Nov 10 09:02:50 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:02:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] E bay... M-Models In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You didn't buy this on a street corner in NYC along with an inexpensive Rolex watch, did you? :) > Just to add in my two cents about the "M" models, I guess I own the > earliest M of all. According to my Body Production Card, Form 141, C.A.B. Serial > #146497(hand written in), my car is actually a B.M.1., H.P. of 16, Body No. > 598(hand written in), Body Type, HEALEY SPORTS. > It's build date is 29 October 1953. I'm sure the B.M.1. is a typo on > the card, but I I guess that make it an M non the less. > > Steven Kingsbury > BM1 #598 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Nov 10 09:23:45 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:23:45 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: References: <20091109210420.0DKT2.694623.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Message-ID: <4AF99391.6050305@chello.nl> Chris, DOT5 is the silicon fluid, DOT5.1 is conventional fluid like DOT4 but the wet and dry boiling points are brought up to DOT5 spec. My pick would be the DOT5.1 for a better feel and water absorbtion and change it every so many years, depending on the climate the car lives in. Kees Oudesluijs Chris Dimmock schreef: > I still use Dot 4. Changed every year or so. > For all the pedal issues/ have to change everything/ flush everything > issues we have all heard for years - I never changed. > Just mentioned this to a good mate who has been racing sprites for > over 30 years, and who runs a very successful business rebuilding/ > maintaining spridgets, and he said 'huh- been running dot 5 in race > cars for over 10 years' > I'll probably go dot 5 next month when I rebuild the whole hydraulic > system in my BJ8 > So is it 5 or 5.1? > Already have rebuilt calipers/ 3 new hoses/ rebuilt bj8 booster/ > clutch& brake master cyl kits for my s/s sleeved master cyls & clutch > s/cyl and nos rear wheels cyls. > Comments? > Chris > www.myaustinhealey.com > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 10/11/2009, at 2:04 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > >> Don't suppose they said why? Are we to assume why? >> >> >> ---- David Nock wrote: >> >> ============= >> This comes up about every 6 months or so and all I will say is that >> if you purchase a Girling cylinder or kit in the instructions it >> clearly states that if you use Silicone fluid your warranty is VOID. >> >> >> On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: >> >>> Silicone is known to be more compressible than DOT 4. That's one of >>> the reasons that it is not used or recommended in ABS systems. >>> >>> The fact that it doesn't absorb moisture is bad because instead of >>> suspending moisture, it can cause water to "settle" in brake parts >>> leading to water pockets and/or corrosion from same. >>> >>> Wilko >>> >>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:52 PM, Tom Felts wrote: >>> >>>> less water absorption is a negative??? >>>> >>>> And----my pedals are in no way spongy. Sorry to defend DOT 5 so >>>> strongly, but seems everything I hear bad about it has not >>>> happened to me in a very long time of silicone use. >>>> >>>> >>>> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >>>> >>>> ============= >>>> Although DOT5 has its advantages in: >>>> >>>> -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true for >>>> DOT5.1) >>>> -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic >>>> -higher dry and wet boiling point >>>> -long life > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.59/2494 - Release Date: 11/10/09 07:38:00 From peter.svilans at rogers.com Tue Nov 10 10:42:45 2009 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:42:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] AM radio Message-ID: <003301ca622d$36476760$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> Yes, all kinds of accessories were locally sourced and dealer fitted. The old US-made Hickock seat belts with gold fleur-de-lis on the chrome buckle and their knobbly fabric belt ( not the inertia-reel friendly smooth belts of today), luggage racks of all types, hardtops, and a bewildering variety of radios from Motorola, BMC Motorola Signature Custom, Playmate, Automatic Radio, Philips, Blaupunkt, etc. But that's no fun. I still hear a heavenly chorus when coming across an original Radiomobile / HMV / Emitron unit mounted on its proper brackets under the heater box, with the amp under the dash against the bulkhead, and the chrome speaker grille in its Healey-specific black cardboard enclosure mounted on the transmission tunnel, as the tie-wearing, pipe-smoking boffins at Radiomobile Ltd., Cricklewood Works, London, intended it to be. Best Peter From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 12:24:27 2009 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:24:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> <4AF2DF5E.90504@att.net> Message-ID: I received e mail from a friend this morning suggesting that all politicians should be limited to 2 terms: one in office, one in prison. ; ^ ) Bob Johnson BJ8 >> >> Wasn't the quote, " Statistics don't lie but politicians always do.". From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Nov 10 13:31:26 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:31:26 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: C'mon now! They're not all that bad. It 's just that 99% of them ruin it for the rest. ;) > > I received e mail from a friend this morning suggesting that all > politicians should be limited to 2 terms: one in office, one in > prison. ; ^ ) > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > > >> > >> Wasn't the quote, " Statistics don't lie but politicians always do.". From insptwo at msn.com Tue Nov 10 13:49:48 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:49:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working In-Reply-To: References: <4AF230BC.5010801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: and a big AMEN to that! Bill BJ7 > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:24:27 -0500 > From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working > > I received e mail from a friend this morning suggesting that all > politicians should be limited to 2 terms: one in office, one in > prison. ; ^ ) > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 From ynotink at msn.com Tue Nov 10 18:00:54 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:00:54 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] E bay In-Reply-To: <4AF95F77.9040006@comcast.net> References: Message-ID: Patrick, You started this. Back to victoria for you...! Bill Lawrence > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:41:27 -0500 > From: kentmclean at comcast.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay > > Patrick Quinn wrote: > > I just have to keep reminding you blokes that the cars you own are not "REAL > > Healeys", they are Austin-Healeys. > > > > While the Austin-Healey 100 is most certainly the purest to the original > > design it is still an Austin-Healey. > > But for one brief, shining moment, the car stood on a stand at Earl's Court in > 1952 as a Healey 100 -- no hyphen, no Austin. Then Leonard Lord got to DMH, and > it became an Austin-Healey. So the Healey 100, at least that one example, is a > "REAL Healey". The thousands that followed are Austin-Healeys. I have one of the > rare non-M models. :) > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From ynotink at msn.com Tue Nov 10 18:12:56 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:12:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: <4AF9310F.1040706@chello.nl> References: <20091109155237.NOUEY.685969.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <3825E6B4-22E5-414A-9660-5DD29388329C@cox.net> Message-ID: You can solve this problem by installing a pleated rubber seal on the fluid reservoir. This seals the system and has an accordion pleated diaphragm that moves in compliance with the changing fluid level. No air exchange, no condensation, no problem. I found some in the generic parts display at the local Pep Boys. I think they cost less than $2.00 each. Bill lawrence > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:23:27 +0100 > From: coudesluijs at chello.nl > To: glemon at neb.rr.com > CC: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > > The relative humidity inside and outside the brake fluid reservoir is > the same as it is in open connection with the outside world even through > the small breathing hole. So if you have large differences in > temperature during day and night in a humid climate you have some > condensation inside the reservoir, especially if the car is parked > outside. Granted it is very little but it will add up in time. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > Greg Lemon schreef: > > If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get into > > the system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you might > > get some condensation but very small volume of air to get any > > appreciable amount of air in the system for it to condense out of, > > likewise some condensation when the system is open (cap off) but cant > > see again how an appreciable amount would get into the system limited > > surface area (and time) for condensation to occur. Also, Count me as > > one who converted without doing more than blowing out the sytem with > > air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice any difference in > > pedal feel. > > > > Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From s.hutchings at rogers.com Tue Nov 10 18:30:26 2009 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:30:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Hub "O" ring Message-ID: I'm just assembling the front hubs with kingpins, and I seem to remember that the spring loaded dust covers had an "o" ring at the bottom. This isn't indicated in the manual diagram, but my kit did come with two "o" rings.......so, am I right? Stephen, BJ8 From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 10 19:32:46 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:32:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 References: Message-ID: <005701ca6277$4169bf40$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Wow, the silicone madness rises again. I don't have time to read all these listings but i have gone both ways. When starting with all new parts, I use silicone. If parts are used, then stay with whats in it. Has anyone mentioned that all rubbers are not created equal. The natural rubber seals may act differently than the man made rubber parts. WHATS IN YOUR CYLINDERS? I'm sure not too many drivers really know at this point unless they did all the work themselves and even then its hard to tell. I saw what switching fluids back and forth in my Easzie Bleed system years ago did to the seals.. The seals would not seat anymore cause they were swelled up so much. I didn't want to take a chance of this happening to my brake system so I switch out everything to make it right at the start. Peace of mind , I guess. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Willig" To: Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:27 AM Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid > in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some > modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can > anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Nov 10 19:36:36 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:36:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Hub "O" ring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AFA2334.3050005@comcast.net> Yep. bs Stephen Hutchings wrote: > I'm just assembling the front hubs with kingpins, and I seem to > remember that the spring loaded dust covers had an "o" ring at the > bottom. This isn't indicated in the manual diagram, but my kit did > come with two "o" rings.......so, am I right? > > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bspidell at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From david at dleong.org Tue Nov 10 20:21:51 2009 From: david at dleong.org (David Leong) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:21:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos Message-ID: <002901ca627e$1c740f90$555c2eb0$@org> Found this report on the Carmel Concours on the Avenue During the Montery Historics A 100-4 and an A-40 in the group. http://www.sportscardigest.com/2009-carmel-concours-photo-gallery/ Dave From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 10 21:10:12 2009 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:10:12 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos In-Reply-To: <002901ca627e$1c740f90$555c2eb0$@org> References: <002901ca627e$1c740f90$555c2eb0$@org> Message-ID: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DD0@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> G'day Dave Many thanks. Does anyone recognise the AH100 Coupe? Looks as if it was designed for those who like to wear a top hat. Also lots of things from later models like the screen surround and no guard beading. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Leong Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2009 2:22 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos Found this report on the Carmel Concours on the Avenue During the Montery Historics A 100-4 and an A-40 in the group. http://www.sportscardigest.com/2009-carmel-concours-photo-gallery/ Dave ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Tue Nov 10 21:51:17 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:51:17 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos In-Reply-To: <002901ca627e$1c740f90$555c2eb0$@org> References: <002901ca627e$1c740f90$555c2eb0$@org> Message-ID: I have 2 words about the 100 "coupe" - Butt Ugly! Cheers, Richard Mayor > From: david at dleong.org > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:21:51 -0800 > Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos > > Found this report on the Carmel Concours on the Avenue During the Montery > Historics > > A 100-4 and an A-40 in the group. > > > > http://www.sportscardigest.com/2009-carmel-concours-photo-gallery/ > > > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mayorrichard at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Tue Nov 10 21:52:56 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:52:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Hub "O" ring In-Reply-To: <4AFA2334.3050005@comcast.net> References: Message-ID: Correcto Mundo Stephen. > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:36:36 -0800 > From: bspidell at comcast.net > To: s.hutchings at rogers.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hub "O" ring > > Yep. > > > bs > > > Stephen Hutchings wrote: > > I'm just assembling the front hubs with kingpins, and I seem to > > remember that the spring loaded dust covers had an "o" ring at the > > bottom. This isn't indicated in the manual diagram, but my kit did > > come with two "o" rings.......so, am I right? > > > > Stephen, BJ8 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as bspidell at comcast.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mayorrichard at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From gstigen at msn.com Tue Nov 10 22:18:37 2009 From: gstigen at msn.com (gene stigen) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:18:37 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] healey's 100m Message-ID: My '53 is chassis#143703, body #4360214, &has a LeMans engine #1B213811M(I installed back in '71 or '72),so what should I call her? my wife&I call her (Baby)in part because i,ve got BJ7&BJ8 also, From twillig at ruda.de Wed Nov 11 00:58:27 2009 From: twillig at ruda.de (Thomas Willig) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:58:27 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 -Please read my question! In-Reply-To: <005701ca6277$4169bf40$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <005701ca6277$4169bf40$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: Oh, my god, I think I triggered a discussion, that I thought was long ended. I have replaced ALL parts of the 100's braking system with brandnew stuff. I am using silicone b.-fluid since 15 years on all my cars. Fantastic stuff.. BUT: My question is which precise modifications are advisable to the interior parts of the 100's mastercylinder. Please check this article from the archives...: -----Original Message----- From: Jim LeBlanc [mailto:jleblanc at midsouth.rr.com] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: RE: Silicone Brk. Fluid When converting a car to silicone brake fluid, know that the 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder models are different due to the master cylinders being different. On this subject, Roger Moment wrote the defining article in the Austin Healey Magazine, 12/03. The 100-4 master cylinder needs a minor modification as documented in that article. Also White Post knows how to make this modification, well worth the dollars to send to them for a rebuild. Any one has more details to this? Jim Leblanc seems not to be on the list anymore, my e-mails to him return undeliverd. Regards Thomas From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Nov 11 01:17:10 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:17:10 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 In-Reply-To: References: <20091109155237.NOUEY.685969.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <3825E6B4-22E5-414A-9660-5DD29388329C@cox.net> Message-ID: <4AFA7306.7030307@chello.nl> Sounds like a very good idea. Never saw or heard of it overhere in EU. Kees Oudesluijs NL WILLIAM B LAWRENCE schreef: > You can solve this problem by installing a pleated rubber seal on the > fluid reservoir. This seals the system and has an accordion pleated > diaphragm that moves in compliance with the changing fluid level. No > air exchange, no condensation, no problem. > > I found some in the generic parts display at the local Pep Boys. I > think they cost less than $2.00 each. > > Bill lawrence > > > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:23:27 +0100 > > From: coudesluijs at chello.nl > > To: glemon at neb.rr.com > > CC: Healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > > > > The relative humidity inside and outside the brake fluid reservoir is > > the same as it is in open connection with the outside world even > through > > the small breathing hole. So if you have large differences in > > temperature during day and night in a humid climate you have some > > condensation inside the reservoir, especially if the car is parked > > outside. Granted it is very little but it will add up in time. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > NL > > > > > > Greg Lemon schreef: > > > If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get into > > > the system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you might > > > get some condensation but very small volume of air to get any > > > appreciable amount of air in the system for it to condense out of, > > > likewise some condensation when the system is open (cap off) but cant > > > see again how an appreciable amount would get into the system limited > > > surface area (and time) for condensation to occur. Also, Count me as > > > one who converted without doing more than blowing out the sytem with > > > air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice any difference in > > > pedal feel. > > > > > > Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.59/2494 - Release Date: 11/10/09 07:38:00 From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Wed Nov 11 01:59:13 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:59:13 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 -Please read my question! In-Reply-To: References: <005701ca6277$4169bf40$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3B5DEA9@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Thomas, No modifications needed. Only in case you have a NOS master cylinder installed, you need to change the rubber sealings with a new sealing kit. Don4t ask me why I know that. But first fill in the silicone brake fluid, bleed the system and check. Try again after two days of settling. If you still have a firm pedal, take the car out for a drive. Otherwise change rubber sealings in master cylinder. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY 54BN1, 62BT7, 65Sprite -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Thomas Willig Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 08:58 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 -Please read my question! Oh, my god, I think I triggered a discussion, that I thought was long ended. I have replaced ALL parts of the 100's braking system with brandnew stuff. I am using silicone b.-fluid since 15 years on all my cars. Fantastic stuff.. BUT: My question is which precise modifications are advisable to the interior parts of the 100's mastercylinder. Please check this article from the archives...: -----Original Message----- From: Jim LeBlanc [mailto:jleblanc at midsouth.rr.com] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: RE: Silicone Brk. Fluid When converting a car to silicone brake fluid, know that the 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder models are different due to the master cylinders being different. On this subject, Roger Moment wrote the defining article in the Austin Healey Magazine, 12/03. The 100-4 master cylinder needs a minor modification as documented in that article. Also White Post knows how to make this modification, well worth the dollars to send to them for a rebuild. Any one has more details to this? Jim Leblanc seems not to be on the list anymore, my e-mails to him return undeliverd. Regards Thomas ____________ From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Wed Nov 11 02:03:50 2009 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter Linn) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:03:50 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos In-Reply-To: References: <002901ca627e$1c740f90$555c2eb0$@org> Message-ID: <6AEAAE6204B8463E8D6FBC9189B98572@PeterPC> Hi Richard Beauty is in the eye, etc - I like it! The back end as a bit of the look of the 300S coupe except no rear quarter lights. But then I am biased! Here's another one for you (apparently it's still around in Melbourne) Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz BN1 Ward Spl coupe Bn1 Holden V6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard mayor" To: ; "healeys" Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos >I have 2 words about the 100 "coupe" - Butt Ugly! Cheers, Richard Mayor > >> From: david at dleong.org >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:21:51 -0800 >> Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos >> >> Found this report on the Carmel Concours on the Avenue During the Montery >> Historics >> >> A 100-4 and an A-40 in the group. >> >> >> >> http://www.sportscardigest.com/2009-carmel-concours-photo-gallery/ >> >> >> >> Dave [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Healey coupe 670008.JPG] From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Nov 11 04:29:28 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:29:28 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 -Please read my question! In-Reply-To: References: <005701ca6277$4169bf40$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <4AFAA018.6060001@chello.nl> AFAIAC no mods are needed if you use all new parts. If you use an existing MBC that was used in a system with DOT4 replace the rubber seals with new ones, not NOS as they may still contain natural rubber. Kees Oudesluijs NL Thomas Willig schreef: > Oh, my god, > > I think I triggered a discussion, that I thought was long ended. > > I have replaced ALL parts of the 100's braking system with brandnew > stuff. I am using silicone b.-fluid since 15 years on all my cars. > Fantastic stuff.. > > BUT: > My question is which precise modifications are advisable to the interior > parts of the 100's mastercylinder. Please check this article from the > archives...: From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed Nov 11 06:04:49 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:04:49 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] two tone BJ8 pictures needed Message-ID: <70BDD7BC3DBE4FEAA7EC0BE7057A7BFD@tm> Hello, A friend of mine here in Poland wants to paint his BJ8 duotone, but needs to know where the division is on the: - front fender, - doors, - Rear fender, - rear panel, Can anyone take some pictures of each panel showing where the colors change?.. Many thanks, Tadek From frogeye at porterscustom.com Wed Nov 11 06:16:50 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:16:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos In-Reply-To: <6AEAAE6204B8463E8D6FBC9189B98572@PeterPC> References: <002901ca627e$1c740f90$555c2eb0$@org> <6AEAAE6204B8463E8D6FBC9189B98572@PeterPC> Message-ID: <82E7F76C133F4135BB6B091BCBF40BF5@oscar> Wasn't that one of Donald's personal cars? dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Linn Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:04 AM To: richard mayor; healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos Hi Richard Beauty is in the eye, etc - I like it! The back end as a bit of the look of the 300S coupe except no rear quarter lights. But then I am biased! Here's another one for you (apparently it's still around in Melbourne) Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz BN1 Ward Spl coupe Bn1 Holden V6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard mayor" To: ; "healeys" Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos >I have 2 words about the 100 "coupe" - Butt Ugly! Cheers, Richard Mayor > >> From: david at dleong.org >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:21:51 -0800 >> Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos >> >> Found this report on the Carmel Concours on the Avenue During the Montery >> Historics >> >> A 100-4 and an A-40 in the group. >> >> >> >> http://www.sportscardigest.com/2009-carmel-concours-photo-gallery/ >> >> >> >> Dave [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Healey coupe 670008.JPG] Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From michael at mcassociatesinc.com Wed Nov 11 08:01:33 2009 From: michael at mcassociatesinc.com (Michael Couch) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:01:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Parts List Message-ID: <26A0130AD81744E191ABFC73C292CD37@MCOUCHOFFICE> I purchased an AH 100 original Parts List, June 1956 edition. Loads of diagrams and total list of parts. If anyone would like a copy of a few relevant pages, feel free to let me know. Mike Couch Pittsburgh BN2 100M AN2 AN7 From ampole at hotmail.com Wed Nov 11 08:06:12 2009 From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:06:12 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] two tone BJ8 pictures needed In-Reply-To: <70BDD7BC3DBE4FEAA7EC0BE7057A7BFD@tm> References: <70BDD7BC3DBE4FEAA7EC0BE7057A7BFD@tm> Message-ID: Tadek try my bj8 website, old english white over healey blue: http://www.austin-healey3000.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=482123&pagesize=60 &page=2 cheers Andy _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 08:08:17 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:08:17 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] two tone BJ8 pictures needed In-Reply-To: <70BDD7BC3DBE4FEAA7EC0BE7057A7BFD@tm> References: <70BDD7BC3DBE4FEAA7EC0BE7057A7BFD@tm> Message-ID: Tadek - 2 tone is easy. The cove color goes to the edge of the swage line but not on top of the ridge. The cove color then goes only to the rear fenders but does not go across the shroud. Alan On 11/11/09, Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > Hello, > > A friend of mine here in Poland wants to paint his BJ8 duotone, but needs to > know where the division is on the: > - front fender, > - doors, > - Rear fender, > - rear panel, > > Can anyone take some pictures of each panel showing where the colors > change?.. > > Many thanks, > > Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 11 08:10:15 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:10:15 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos In-Reply-To: <6AEAAE6204B8463E8D6FBC9189B98572@PeterPC> References: <002901ca627e$1c740f90$555c2eb0$@org> Message-ID: Some butts aren't ugly. :) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "richard mayor" mayorrichard at hotmail.com > > >I have 2 words about the 100 "coupe" - Butt Ugly! Cheers, Richard Mayor From gstigen at msn.com Wed Nov 11 08:10:12 2009 From: gstigen at msn.com (gene stigen) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:10:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Message-ID: Its a Le-Mans engine, got the 1&3/4 carbs, manifolds, ect,M was stamped after engine #, not sure when or by whom,or why. I bought it from a wrecking yard in Seattle because mine had a Corvette V-8,installed in 1960 in Cal, I wanted it Healey powered From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed Nov 11 08:18:39 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:18:39 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] two tone BJ8 pictures needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0BDA204A22E44168953DC1FE63F39916@tm> I forgot about it - many thanks!! _____ From: andy pole [mailto:ampole at hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:06 PM To: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] two tone BJ8 pictures needed Tadek try my bj8 website, old english white over healey blue: http://www.austin-healey3000.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=482123 &pagesize=60&page=2 cheers Andy _____ Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. From linwoodrose at mac.com Wed Nov 11 10:01:07 2009 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (Linwood H Rose) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:01:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos In-Reply-To: <82E7F76C133F4135BB6B091BCBF40BF5@oscar> References: <002901ca627e$1c740f90$555c2eb0$@org> <6AEAAE6204B8463E8D6FBC9189B98572@PeterPC> <82E7F76C133F4135BB6B091BCBF40BF5@oscar> Message-ID: <1C7C3091-11B1-43A0-B169-90BAC5CDEE6C@mac.com> Dave, Not that one. Donald's was beautiful and it was penned by Gerry Coker. Lin Rose 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" 1959 AN5 Bugeye On Nov 11, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Dave Porter wrote: > Wasn't that one of Donald's personal cars? > dave > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 > Porter Custom Bicycles > > cars: > www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html > gallery: > http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff > > blog: http://porterbikes.com/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Peter Linn > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:04 AM > To: richard mayor; healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos > > Hi Richard > > Beauty is in the eye, etc - I like it! The back end as a bit of the > look of > the 300S coupe except no rear quarter lights. But then I am biased! > Here's > another one for you (apparently it's still around in Melbourne) > > Cheers > > Peter Linn > Brisbane Oz > BN1 Ward Spl coupe > Bn1 Holden V6 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "richard mayor" > To: ; "healeys" > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos > > >> I have 2 words about the 100 "coupe" - Butt Ugly! Cheers, Richard >> Mayor >> >>> From: david at dleong.org >>> To: healeys at autox.team.net >>> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:21:51 -0800 >>> Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos >>> >>> Found this report on the Carmel Concours on the Avenue During the >>> Montery >>> Historics >>> >>> A 100-4 and an A-40 in the group. >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.sportscardigest.com/2009-carmel-concours-photo-gallery/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Dave > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a > name of > Healey coupe 670008.JPG] > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as linwoodrose at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Editorgary at aol.com Wed Nov 11 13:21:31 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:21:31 EST Subject: [Healeys] Confusion re master cylinders Message-ID: In a message dated 11/11/09 11:53:11 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > No modifications needed. Only in case you have a NOS master cylinder > installed, you need to change the rubber sealings with a new sealing kit. > Sorry, we got confused by the mention of the type of brake fluid used. The modification that Roger Moment explained is recommended no matter which fluid is being used. From memory, it has to do with a feedback hole in the master cylinder, which can be covered by the new seal and thus prevent fluid from draining back into the cylinder. Suggest you check the Healey.org or team.net list archives for the Moment article for a description on how to fix the problem. Best Gary From sbyers at ec.rr.com Wed Nov 11 14:14:07 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:14:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Denis Welch Endurance Car Message-ID: <009201ca6313$e7b75280$b725f780$@rr.com> Hello, Healeyphiles - The Endurance car and Streamliner built in Australia to replicate the original DMH attempts have made their runs at Bonneville, but I don't know the result. Denis/Jeremy Welch have recreated their own Endurance car that will be making its try on 15 November. Their website has some really interesting videos, including one of the original attempt by DMH. Maybe others besides me haven't seen this before: http://www.healeyendurance.com/video Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From Awgertoo at aol.com Wed Nov 11 14:25:12 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:25:12 EST Subject: [Healeys] Source for new ignition switch Message-ID: Best--Michael Oritt 100 LeMans From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 15:19:50 2009 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:19:50 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] bonneville revisited. sept. 2009 Message-ID: <9baa446a0911111419i2ad429afm28e97991f7908cd5@mail.gmail.com> available for viewing is a tremendous amount of superb photos with clear and descriptive captions taken by tim and sherry moran on the ntahc website: www.ntahc.org all of the newsletters done by bruno v. prior to the event are also available. cheers, -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Nov 11 15:23:50 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:23:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 References: Message-ID: <0A2626D282CC4577BADA6734BE6DCBDE@LIFEBOOK> Hello Gene, Your engine number having the M suffix has nothing to do with the engine being to Le Mans specs. The M seems to simply be the suffix indicating it was assembled at the Morris engines plant as opposed to the Austin engine plant which has no suffix. While at it, can you please send me the rest of the particulars regarding your car; colours exterior and interior, and your personal data, address, etc. I'd like to add your information to the Hundred Registry. many thanks Rich Chrysler North American Hundred Registrar ----- Original Message ----- From: "gene stigen" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:10 AM Subject: [Healeys] 100 > Its a Le-Mans engine, got the 1&3/4 carbs, manifolds, ect,M was stamped > after > engine #, not sure when or by whom,or why. I bought it from a wrecking > yard in > Seattle because mine had a Corvette V-8,installed in 1960 in Cal, I wanted > it > Healey powered > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From Awgertoo at aol.com Wed Nov 11 15:24:51 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:24:51 EST Subject: [Healeys] Ignition switch failure. Message-ID: The ignition switch on my 100 has failed--it is marked FA 525 and the keying for it matches that for my boot. I would like to have only one key for both and wonder where I can obtain a replacement ignition switch with this number. Thanks--Michael Oritt From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Wed Nov 11 15:29:23 2009 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:29:23 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Denis Welch Endurance Car In-Reply-To: <009201ca6313$e7b75280$b725f780$@rr.com> References: <009201ca6313$e7b75280$b725f780$@rr.com> Message-ID: <7CC8DE1FCD8B36409FF7FB3E4C85DDFA0390E94DD6@SLPPEXCCR02.central.det.win> G'day Steve We wish them well. However the significant difference is that both cars built by Steve Pike here is Australia were taken to the Bonneville Salt Flats to emulate the 1954 runs by the DHMC. As you can imagine it's a long way between Melbourne and Bonneville, meaning that all technical/mechanical support material had to be taken as well. The Welch car will not leave England for its attempt. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 8:14 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Denis Welch Endurance Car Hello, Healeyphiles - The Endurance car and Streamliner built in Australia to replicate the original DMH attempts have made their runs at Bonneville, but I don't know the result. Denis/Jeremy Welch have recreated their own Endurance car that will be making its try on 15 November. Their website has some really interesting videos, including one of the original attempt by DMH. Maybe others besides me haven't seen this before: http://www.healeyendurance.com/video Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From bighealey at charter.net Wed Nov 11 16:26:41 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:26:41 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] bonneville revisited. sept. 2009 In-Reply-To: <9baa446a0911111419i2ad429afm28e97991f7908cd5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B93FF47ABA14B9C8D6EAA13549AB4B4@TRACY> Tim, Can we put this stuff on the AHCUSA site? Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: jerry wall [mailto:jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:20 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net; board at healey.org; officers at healey.org Subject: bonneville revisited. sept. 2009 available for viewing is a tremendous amount of superb photos with clear and descriptive captions taken by tim and sherry moran on the ntahc website: www.ntahc.org all of the newsletters done by bruno v. prior to the event are also available. cheers, -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From gbrierton at hotmail.com Wed Nov 11 17:43:49 2009 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (gary brierton) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:43:49 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Denis Welch Endurance Car/HealeysreturntoBonneville In-Reply-To: <009201ca6313$e7b75280$b725f780$@rr.com> References: <009201ca6313$e7b75280$b725f780$@rr.com> Message-ID: By the way... The Bonneville runs were recreations of DMH's 1954 runs. Team Healey did not want to break records set by DMH in 1954. They intended to only "approach" those 1954 speeds and records. In fact, the 1954 records were F.I.A. sanctioned, a different body than the USFRA (Utah Salt Flats Racing Association), which currently sanctions records at Bonneville. Therefore, the 1954 records could not have been broken officially. Results from this September's event can be seen at www.saltflats.com and, much more information at http://healeysreturntobonneville.blogspot.com. To attempt speeds over 200 mph at the Salt Flats, the driver must make a series of runs. The first capped at 150 mph, the second at 175 and so forth. The Streamliner made its first run to 149+, but was frustrated for further runs. The Endurance car ran straight line only (no endurance track remains at Bonneville) in the 120+ range, with a best run of 127.4, I believe. This Bonneville experience was unforgettable. To meet and talk with the Team members present, to soak up the sights and sounds of the Salt Flats & World of Speed & the Streamliner and the Endurance cars was a once-in-a-lifetime event. GaryB -------------------------------------------------- From: "BJ8 Healeys" Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:14 PM To: Subject: [Healeys] Denis Welch Endurance Car > Hello, Healeyphiles - > > The Endurance car and Streamliner built in Australia to replicate the > original DMH attempts have made their runs at Bonneville, but I don't know > the result. Denis/Jeremy Welch have recreated their own Endurance car > that > will be making its try on 15 November. Their website has some really > interesting videos, including one of the original attempt by DMH. Maybe > others besides me haven't seen this before: > http://www.healeyendurance.com/video > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 17:54:04 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:54:04 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition switch failure. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael - You can get a new switch or replacement switch and then put in the FA 525 barrel you have. All the new replacement switches come without key barrels for this reason. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:24 AM, wrote: > The ignition switch on my 100 has failed--it is marked FA 525 and the > keying for it matches that for my boot. I would like to have only one key > for > both and wonder where I can obtain a replacement ignition switch with this > number. > > Thanks--Michael Oritt From rchaskell at earthlink.net Wed Nov 11 17:59:12 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:59:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Ignition switch failure. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AFB5DE0.5070503@earthlink.net> Michael, The cylinder can be removed and installed in another switch. Or a new switch/cylinder can be re-keyed to use your current key. Check with Pete Groh. Bob Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > The ignition switch on my 100 has failed--it is marked FA 525 and the > keying for it matches that for my boot. I would like to have only one key for > both and wonder where I can obtain a replacement ignition switch with this > number. > > Thanks--Michael Oritt From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Nov 11 18:17:00 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:17:00 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?free_parts?= Message-ID: <20091112011700.22836.qmail@server278.com> in my ever continuing struggle to get rid of parts i will never use, i have an angle drive off of a 100. it appears to be missing a part that fits into a slot in the drive then goes into the trans. it does turn when i put a small screwdriver in and rotate it. free for the shipping to first responder. hjim From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Nov 11 18:22:20 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:22:20 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?parts_for_sale?= Message-ID: <20091112012220.31038.qmail@server278.com> due to an unfortunate event, i have a set of front shocks rebuilt by worldwide auto parts and a set of front calipers that i rebuilt for sale. i am looking for exactly what i have in them plus core charge. if interested, contact me off list. hjim From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Nov 11 18:23:16 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:23:16 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?parts?= Message-ID: <20091112012316.32385.qmail@server278.com> From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Nov 11 18:24:08 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:24:08 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?parts?= Message-ID: <20091112012408.1285.qmail@server278.com> sorry, forgot to say the shocks and calipers are off a bj8. From gstigen at msn.com Wed Nov 11 19:05:18 2009 From: gstigen at msn.com (gene stigen) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:05:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] My 100 Message-ID: Thanks to all who helped me clarify some points on my '53 100. I have the "Austin Healey Hundred"(Model B.N.1.) Special Equipment and Tuning Instructions, hopefully when I freshen the engine this winter I can check some #s & see if this might be owner installed options,who knows? Geno also I've got some spares- 100 frt shroud& grill, 100-6 grill, BJ8 dash pads& back seat ect.I can be reached at gstigen at msn.com From michel.murphy at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 19:17:26 2009 From: michel.murphy at gmail.com (michel Murphy) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:17:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Sender unit question Message-ID: <5482E14F961C484B9E6771079F1FCE49@MichelPC> Hi all, I broke the brass bolt used for the electrical connection on my sender unit. When I removed the original bolt, it was wrapped in what looked like a wax coated gauze material. I figure that this wrapping insulates the two ends of the variable resistor from each other and acts as a weather seal. My question is what can I use to replace this seal? Thanks in advance. Mike '63 BJ7 Ottawa, ON, Canada From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Wed Nov 11 20:15:57 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:15:57 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Info needed re: rare competition alloy valve cover Message-ID: I would like some help from the list. I have a very rare alloy valve cover. It is the same valve cover that is on the Hollywood Sports Cars' 3000 engine that was featured in the April, 1962, issue of Sports Car Graphic - entitled "SLUGGER". Other than the one I own, and the one in the 1962 article, I am aware of only one other, and that is on a vintage Healey racecar in Illinoise. I would like to know who, or what company, produced these valve covers. I do not know how to attach a link to that article so you can view the engine pictures to see what I am talking about. Maybe someone on the list could do it for me so everyone can see the valve cover. Thanks, Richard Mayor, Portland, Oregon _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Wed Nov 11 20:28:20 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:28:20 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] rare alloy valve cover Message-ID: Correction, the article was entitled "SLUGGER ON THE DYNO" and the engine made 205 HP. Richard _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 20:41:45 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:41:45 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Sender unit question In-Reply-To: <5482E14F961C484B9E6771079F1FCE49@MichelPC> References: <5482E14F961C484B9E6771079F1FCE49@MichelPC> Message-ID: Michael - I repaired my sender unit, which had corroded around the contact from galvanic corrosion, reducing part of the casing to aluminum vapor. I repaired it using JB Weld. Looks just like aluminum and will last forever and is a natural insulator. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:17 AM, michel Murphy wrote: > Hi all, > > > > I broke the brass bolt used for the electrical connection on my sender > unit. > When I removed the original bolt, it was wrapped in what looked like a wax > coated gauze material. I figure that this wrapping insulates the two ends > of the variable resistor from each other and acts as a weather seal. My > question is what can I use to replace this seal? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Mike > > '63 BJ7 > > Ottawa, ON, Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeydriver1 at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 08:12:58 2009 From: healeydriver1 at gmail.com (R Phillips) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:12:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rocker arm assembly Message-ID: <6ea3ee9e0911120712n57361d30vb273faece41ebc48@mail.gmail.com> I removed the rocker arm assembly to torque the head. Any advice in replacing the assembly. Is there an order to bolting it back on. Anything to be wary of? Thanks, Ric '65 BJ8 From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Thu Nov 12 08:37:10 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:37:10 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Info needed re: rare competition alloy valve cover In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0341FFB1@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Richard, I have one of those finned coffin jobs on my 3000. I got it from a junk yard in Illinois in 1972. I have seen it advertised in a 60's magazine. It wasn't J.C.Whitney but another hot rod supplier, maybe Almquist? I do have an add, but it might take until Christmas to find it. Ken Freese From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Nov 12 09:47:35 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:47:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rocker arm assembly In-Reply-To: <6ea3ee9e0911120712n57361d30vb273faece41ebc48@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ea3ee9e0911120712n57361d30vb273faece41ebc48@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000301ca63b7$d64ff610$82efe230$@rr.com> Torque rocker shaft bracket nuts to 300 - 324 lb.-in. (25 - 27 lb.-ft.). No order is specified in the workshop manual, but I prefer to alternate from side to side and torque them first to half-spec before torquing to the final value. Make sure that the balls on the rocker tips sit down into the cups of all pushrods properly before torquing down the rocker shaft bracket nuts. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of R Phillips Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:13 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Rocker arm assembly I removed the rocker arm assembly to torque the head. Any advice in replacing the assembly. Is there an order to bolting it back on. Anything to be wary of? Thanks, Ric '65 BJ8 From edic at tampabay.rr.com Thu Nov 12 10:37:23 2009 From: edic at tampabay.rr.com (edic) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:37:23 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rocker arm assembly References: <6ea3ee9e0911120712n57361d30vb273faece41ebc48@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000a01ca63be$cb79e5a0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2> Ric, One thing you need to be very, very careful of, that you do not strip the rocker pedestal, the one with the tapped hole for the oil feed, by over tightening the banjo bolt. It is easy to do and I did it. The banjo bolt screws into the soft aluminum pedestal so be very careful. I have a specification sheet that says the rocker shaft bracket nuts are to be torqued 25 - 27 foot pounds. If you have Norman Nock's Tech Talk book, which I have found to be invaluable, he addresses rebuilding the rocker shaft. I hope this helps you as I assume more knowledgeable healyites will be offering advice. As a note, when I stripped my pedestal I sent off to A-H Spares and bought a new one with 2 new banjo washers. The pedestal now cost $20.78 US dollars and the washers are .73 each (at todays exchange rate) plus shipping. I am not affiliated with that outfit just a satisfied customer. Mel Brunet HBJ8L/39749 ----- Original Message ----- From: "R Phillips" To: Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:12 AM Subject: [Healeys] Rocker arm assembly >I removed the rocker arm assembly to torque the head. Any advice in > replacing the assembly. Is there an order to bolting it back on. > Anything > to be wary of? > > Thanks, > > Ric > '65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as edic at tampabay.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Nov 12 11:42:35 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:42:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rocker arm assembly In-Reply-To: <000a01ca63be$cb79e5a0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2> References: <6ea3ee9e0911120712n57361d30vb273faece41ebc48@mail.gmail.com> <000a01ca63be$cb79e5a0$0201a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2> Message-ID: <000a01ca63c7$e75bdf40$b6139dc0$@rr.com> It should be noted that it is not necessary to remove the oil pipe banjo bolt in order to remove the rocker shaft. Unscrew the nut from the other end of the pipe and remove the oil pipe with the rocker shaft assembly. It is less likely to strip the nut than it is the threads in the aluminum pedestal. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of edic Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:37 PM To: R Phillips; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rocker arm assembly Ric, One thing you need to be very, very careful of, that you do not strip the rocker pedestal, the one with the tapped hole for the oil feed, by over tightening the banjo bolt. It is easy to do and I did it. The banjo bolt screws into the soft aluminum pedestal so be very careful. I have a specification sheet that says the rocker shaft bracket nuts are to be torqued 25 - 27 foot pounds. If you have Norman Nock's Tech Talk book, which I have found to be invaluable, he addresses rebuilding the rocker shaft. I hope this helps you as I assume more knowledgeable healyites will be offering advice. As a note, when I stripped my pedestal I sent off to A-H Spares and bought a new one with 2 new banjo washers. The pedestal now cost $20.78 US dollars and the washers are .73 each (at todays exchange rate) plus shipping. I am not affiliated with that outfit just a satisfied customer. Mel Brunet HBJ8L/39749 From dan at warner-associates.com Thu Nov 12 12:38:52 2009 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:38:52 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Window Glass Message-ID: <9E220B24AD78436CACD083A826ED0E00@DANSTROM> Anyone ever order and install the Euro Glass brand offered by Moss as replacement glass for the side windows. I have a BJ8 and am concerned about the quality and fit. They do not have any Triplex glass in stock and am wondering if there is another source for quality glass if the Euro Glass is not recommended.. Dan From dwflagg at juno.com Thu Nov 12 13:35:01 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:35:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] NOS Lucas license plate lamp base Message-ID: <20091112.123559.905.11552@mailpop06.dca.untd.com> I have an NOS Lucas 572619 single bulb license plate lamp base. Would like to trade or deal for an NOS or excellent two bulb base. If you can help please contact me off the list. TIA. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Doctorate Degrees Online Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=K4xwnrbEnDDFxXoDb00hnQAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAPurNz8AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Thu Nov 12 14:16:24 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:16:24 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Brass Message-ID: <000c01ca63dd$6431d4b0$2c957e10$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> I have removed the hot water heater tap from the block of my BT7. It had been jammed in the open position with no handle ever since I've had the car. Abuse by a PO, though I've gathered from others and now see for myself that these things are living on borrowed time from the moment they are fitted. With judicious use of a small blow lamp and a small(ish) hammer I got the tapered rotating section out of the main body. I've polished up all the interfacing surfaces and now I'm ready to fix it/put it back together. 1) I've got some brass rod left over from some carb work, so have suitable material for the little handle/lever thing. I'll file it down to size and probably tap and die so I can bolt the handle into, maybe through, the round end of the rotating section.....any other ideas? And can one solder brass to brass? Copper I know about, from plumbing. But brass, I don't know. 2) I'm concerned that I may get the thing together and looking halfway decent only for it to bind itself solid again. What might I do to keep it free and easy but not dripping coolant? Light oil will do until the engine has heated up a few times and then it'll dry out and get tacky.....Am I right on that? Grease ditto? What about that filthy black graphite grease stuff? A bit heavy, but heat proof? Any advice would be very welcome. Thanks, Simon From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Nov 12 14:21:38 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:21:38 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Window Glass In-Reply-To: <9E220B24AD78436CACD083A826ED0E00@DANSTROM> References: <9E220B24AD78436CACD083A826ED0E00@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <4AFC7C62.2080606@chello.nl> Triplex does not exist anymore as a manufacturer. The bussiness was taken over by Pilkinton. This firm makes top quality windscreens as OE for many cars and also supplies after market windscreens for many classics. However I do not know if they also make the wanted side windows. Google may give the answer. Kees Oudesluijs NL Dan Stromquist schreef: > Anyone ever order and install the Euro Glass brand offered by Moss as > replacement glass for the side windows. I have a BJ8 and am concerned about > the quality and fit. They do not have any Triplex glass in stock and am > wondering if there is another source for quality glass if the Euro Glass is > not recommended.. > > Dan From ampole at hotmail.com Thu Nov 12 15:29:36 2009 From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:29:36 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Brass In-Reply-To: <000c01ca63dd$6431d4b0$2c957e10$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <000c01ca63dd$6431d4b0$2c957e10$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: Simon Mine was missing also, I think ahead4healeys and others sell the handles, but I just like you had a piece of brass rod and used a tap and die and also bench grinder to shape, looks as good as new after the clean with stainless spring and pin: http://www.austin-healey3000.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=5125796 http://www.austin-healey3000.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=5125797 I used a valve rebuilding paste from work, think it is graphite based. its not leaked yet! cheers Andy _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 15:36:18 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:36:18 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brass In-Reply-To: <8801204142177566112@unknownmsgid> References: <8801204142177566112@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Simon - If originality isn't a concern, I would drill out a hole, tap it, and insert a steel or stainless steel screw (with smooth shank & head cut off). That will be much more reliable over time. On 11/13/09, Simon Lachlan wrote: > I have removed the hot water heater tap from the block of my BT7. It had > been jammed in the open position with no handle ever since I've had the car. > Abuse by a PO, though I've gathered from others and now see for myself that > these things are living on borrowed time from the moment they are fitted. > With judicious use of a small blow lamp and a small(ish) hammer I got the > tapered rotating section out of the main body. I've polished up all the > interfacing surfaces and now I'm ready to fix it/put it back together. > 1) I've got some brass rod left over from some carb work, so have suitable > material for the little handle/lever thing. I'll file it down to size and > probably tap and die so I can bolt the handle into, maybe through, the round > end of the rotating section.....any other ideas? And can one solder brass to > brass? Copper I know about, from plumbing. But brass, I don't know. > 2) I'm concerned that I may get the thing together and looking halfway > decent only for it to bind itself solid again. What might I do to keep it > free and easy but not dripping coolant? Light oil will do until the engine > has heated up a few times and then it'll dry out and get tacky.....Am I > right on that? Grease ditto? What about that filthy black graphite grease > stuff? A bit heavy, but heat proof? > Any advice would be very welcome. > Thanks, > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From jmnewt at comcast.net Thu Nov 12 15:38:27 2009 From: jmnewt at comcast.net (Jack Newton) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:38:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 Spruce Message-ID: Does anyone on the list have a paint formula for the Spruce Green color as used on the 100-4. Spies-Hecker would be best but a PPG formula would also help. TIA, Jack From don at anglesey.us Thu Nov 12 16:39:33 2009 From: don at anglesey.us (Don) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:39:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brass In-Reply-To: <000c01ca63dd$6431d4b0$2c957e10$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: Simon White lithium grease works well for this. Don >>2) I'm concerned that I may get the thing together and looking halfway decent only for it to bind itself solid again. What might I do to keep it free and easy but not dripping coolant? Light oil will do until the engine has heated up a few times and then it'll dry out and get tacky.....Am I right on that? Grease ditto? What about that filthy black graphite grease stuff? A bit heavy, but heat proof? Any advice would be very welcome.<< From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 12 17:43:47 2009 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:43:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Brass In-Reply-To: <000c01ca63dd$6431d4b0$2c957e10$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <470358.66359.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> You should have left it in the on position , you could have leaking problem when you put it back ... The heater control should be able to turn off all the heat if adjusted correctly Norman Nockif you have my book Tech Talk see pages 208 &232 TECH TALK by Norman Nock l have been writing technical articles for Healey clubs for over 25 years . After numerous requests , l have gathered them together, along with some never before published articles and had them spiral bound in book form $ 35.00 + $7.50 in USA 2009 has 275 pages Updated Annually Both our catalogs are on line and can be down loaded www.BritishCarSpecialists.com 209 948 8767 Tech Talk SAMPLE PAGES ON LINE British Car Specialists 2060 N Wilson Way Stockton CA 95205 --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Simon Lachlan wrote: From: Simon Lachlan Subject: [Healeys] Brass To: "'Healeys'" Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 1:16 PM I have removed the hot water heater tap from the block of my BT7. It had been jammed in the open position with no handle ever since I've had the car. Abuse by a PO, though I've gathered from others and now see for myself that these things are living on borrowed time from the moment they are fitted. With judicious use of a small blow lamp and a small(ish) hammer I got the tapered rotating section out of the main body. I've polished up all the interfacing surfaces and now I'm ready to fix it/put it back together. 1) I've got some brass rod left over from some carb work, so have suitable material for the little handle/lever thing. I'll file it down to size and probably tap and die so I can bolt the handle into, maybe through, the round end of the rotating section.....any other ideas? And can one solder brass to brass? Copper I know about, from plumbing. But brass, I don't know. 2) I'm concerned that I may get the thing together and looking halfway decent only for it to bind itself solid again. What might I do to keep it free and easy but not dripping coolant? Light oil will do until the engine has heated up a few times and then it'll dry out and get tacky.....Am I right on that? Grease ditto? What about that filthy black graphite grease stuff? A bit heavy, but heat proof? Any advice would be very welcome. Thanks, Simon Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sjnnock at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 19:30:01 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:30:01 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 Spruce In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <751d05480911121830t6c80ea49q748d4c063548f5b6@mail.gmail.com> Jack, Auto Color Library, the best paint shop around. Used by numerous high end restorers here in California. Great website. Here is a direct link to the page with the Spruce Green color chip http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/aclchip.aspx?image=1953-ahmg-pg12.jpg Or from the home page http://autocolorlibrary.com/default.aspx Select make of car, in our case it's "ahmg" and then select the year, I selected "1954." The color chip for Spruce Green is page 12. These folks can hook you up with the "Spot-on" paint color. Cheers, Curt On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Jack Newton wrote: > Does anyone on the list have a paint formula for the Spruce Green color as > used on the 100-4. Spies-Hecker would be best but a PPG formula would also > help. > TIA, > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From jstmorris at yahoo.com Thu Nov 12 20:22:29 2009 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:22:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] University Motors Auction Nov 21 Message-ID: <323536.27520.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> David LaChance, writes in bHemmings Weeklyb dated today, Nov12, 2009, that there is a Lifetime collection of MG items going on the block.B He states: We donbt make a habit of promoting property auctions, but webll make an exception in the case of John Twist, whose University Motors Ltd. this summer became a victim of the distressed Michigan economy. University Motors had been in business for more than 34 years, offering service, advice and friendship to the MG community. Parts, tools, shop equipment and more will be sold off in the auction, scheduled for Saturday, November 21, at University Motors in Ada, Michigan. Vander Kolkbs Golden Gavel Auction Service is handling the auction; you can visit www.vkauctions.com to learn details of the sale, see photos of the lots being offered and, if youbd like, to make an absentee bid. The window for absentee bidding closes at 9 p.m. on November 20. The items up for sale include office equipment, shop equipment, tools, books and literature, MG memorabilia, new parts, used parts and miscellany. John writes, bFrom MG keyfobs to MG posters, MG watches to MG pictures, MG pins to MG posters, MG patches to MG signs, MG buttons to MG banners, MG models, pens, ashtrays, and playing cards to MG mirrors, this is a lifetime collection of MG memorabilia and things octagonal!b Items from BMC, Jaguar-Rover-Triumph, Lucas, SU, Lockheed and a number of car clubs will be included as well. B ------------ Good luck to all of you with your bidding J --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Nov 12 20:37:04 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:37:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Brass References: <000c01ca63dd$6431d4b0$2c957e10$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <3850352BDC6444A9AD4668A81E551D0E@LIFEBOOK> Who can provide the spring? Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy pole" To: ; Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brass > Simon > > > > Mine was missing also, I think ahead4healeys and others sell the handles, > but > I just like you had a piece of brass rod and used a tap and die and also > bench > grinder to shape, looks as good as new after the clean with stainless > spring > and pin: > > > > http://www.austin-healey3000.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=5125796 > > > > http://www.austin-healey3000.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=5125797 > > > > I used a valve rebuilding paste from work, think it is graphite based. its > not > leaked yet! > > > > cheers Andy > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 22:12:19 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:12:19 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brass In-Reply-To: <3850352BDC6444A9AD4668A81E551D0E@LIFEBOOK> References: <3850352BDC6444A9AD4668A81E551D0E@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <751d05480911122112g66b833eesbe88f3922c4d7f85@mail.gmail.com> Rich, I've restored dozens of these brass taps for the block and the radiator on Sprites and various big Healeys over the years. Most quality hardware stores have a selection of springs, and I match the spring diameter to the original and then it's a matter of cutting the spring down to size and grinding the ends flat. Simple and easy. If there was enough of a need, I have access to Roger Moments custom spring maker in Colorado. we could have the exact springs made to order. He has made springs for both Roger and me for various Healey applications to include the horn button spring in the trafficators that I use in my rebuilding service. Roger has also had them make up the distributor weight springs for the 100 (both standard and Le Mans) and the special carburetor throttle spring for the 100 among others. Cheers, Curt Arndt Carlsbad, CA '55 BN1, '60 AN5 :{) '06 Cooper S On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Rich C wrote: > Who can provide the spring? > > Rich Chrysler > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy pole" > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brass > > > Simon >> >> >> >> Mine was missing also, I think ahead4healeys and others sell the handles, >> but >> I just like you had a piece of brass rod and used a tap and die and also >> bench >> grinder to shape, looks as good as new after the clean with stainless >> spring >> and pin: >> >> >> >> http://www.austin-healey3000.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=5125796 >> >> >> >> http://www.austin-healey3000.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=5125797 >> >> >> >> I used a valve rebuilding paste from work, think it is graphite based. its >> not >> leaked yet! >> >> >> >> cheers Andy >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Nov 12 22:25:20 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:25:20 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 Spruce In-Reply-To: <751d05480911121830t6c80ea49q748d4c063548f5b6@mail.gmail.com> References: , <751d05480911121830t6c80ea49q748d4c063548f5b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Interesting sight. My Heritage paperwork say my 64 BJ8 (built in 63) is Ivory White. This color is not listed on the Auto Color Library. I am getting ready to repaint and I'd like to get some information on Ivory White if anyone has any clues. I had always thought it was Old English White until I got the Heritage report. Rich Kahn > Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:30:01 -0800 > From: cnaarndt at gmail.com > To: jmnewt at comcast.net > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-4 Spruce > > Jack, > > Auto Color Library, the best paint shop around. Used by numerous high end > restorers here in California. Great website. > > Here is a direct link to the page with the Spruce Green color chip > > http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/aclchip.aspx?image=1953-ahmg-pg12.j pg > > Or from the home page > > http://autocolorlibrary.com/default.aspx > > Select make of car, in our case it's "ahmg" and then select the year, I > selected "1954." > > The color chip for Spruce Green is page 12. > > These folks can hook you up with the "Spot-on" paint color. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Jack Newton wrote: > > > Does anyone on the list have a paint formula for the Spruce Green color as > > used on the 100-4. Spies-Hecker would be best but a PPG formula would also > > help. > > TIA, > > Jack > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US: WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 22:42:59 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:42:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 Spruce In-Reply-To: References: <751d05480911121830t6c80ea49q748d4c063548f5b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <751d05480911122142w7dec91cbm2d24178d60fe4a48@mail.gmail.com> Richard, Both Ivory white and Old English White are listed in the 1950s under Austin Healeys. The color didn't change in 1963, so call the folks and I'm certain they can match the color. They have a great selection of color chips for a huge number of cars over many years but give them a break, they don't list everything. What do you expect, they just don't happen to have ALL of the paint chips for every car for every year. I pass along a great website and it's still not good enough. Cheers, Curt On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > Interesting sight. My Heritage paperwork say my 64 BJ8 (built in 63) is > Ivory White. This color is not listed on the Auto Color Library. I am > getting ready to repaint and I'd like to get some information on Ivory White > if anyone has any clues. I had always thought it was Old English White until > I got the Heritage report. > Rich Kahn > > > Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:30:01 -0800 > > From: cnaarndt at gmail.com > > To: jmnewt at comcast.net > > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-4 Spruce > > > > > Jack, > > > > Auto Color Library, the best paint shop around. Used by numerous high end > > restorers here in California. Great website. > > > > Here is a direct link to the page with the Spruce Green color chip > > > > > http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/aclchip.aspx?image=1953-ahmg-pg12.jpg > > > > Or from the home page > > > > http://autocolorlibrary.com/default.aspx > > > > Select make of car, in our case it's "ahmg" and then select the year, I > > selected "1954." > > > > The color chip for Spruce Green is page 12. > > > > These folks can hook you up with the "Spot-on" paint color. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Curt > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Jack Newton wrote: > > > > > Does anyone on the list have a paint formula for the Spruce Green color > as > > > used on the 100-4. Spies-Hecker would be best but a PPG formula would > also > > > help. > > > TIA, > > > Jack > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > ------------------------------ > Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Thu Nov 12 23:14:00 2009 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:14:00 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brass References: <000c01ca63dd$6431d4b0$2c957e10$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <490F39E25B574B13863E54C5665C1406@XPS400> Andy, Where did you obtain the stainless spring and pin?? Ron > Mine was missing also, I think ahead4healeys and others sell the handles, > but > I just like you had a piece of brass rod and used a tap and die and also > bench > grinder to shape, looks as good as new after the clean with stainless > spring > and pin: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Nov 12 23:26:59 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:26:59 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Brass In-Reply-To: <000c01ca63dd$6431d4b0$2c957e10$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <000c01ca63dd$6431d4b0$2c957e10$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <4AFCFC33.6090705@chello.nl> Simon, Brass can be soldered like copper, no problem using lead/tin or silver/tin, both will do fine but silver/tin will be stronger of course if neccesary and you will need a higher temperature to solder. To lubricate it is probably best to use the graphite (or molybdene-disulfate) grease that is also used for household taps, it may hold up a bit better than automotive graphite grease. Do not use oil, that will disappear in no time. Kees Oudesluijs NL Simon Lachlan schreef: > And can one solder brass to > brass? Copper I know about, from plumbing. But brass, I don't know. > 2) I'm concerned that I may get the thing together and looking halfway > decent only for it to bind itself solid again. What might I do to keep it > free and easy but not dripping coolant? Light oil will do until the engine > has heated up a few times and then it'll dry out and get tacky.....Am I > right on that? Grease ditto? What about that filthy black graphite grease > stuff? A bit heavy, but heat proof? > Any advice would be very welcome. > Thanks, > Simon From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Fri Nov 13 01:21:35 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:21:35 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Window Glass In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, I bought my windshield from AH Spares - it was made by NordGlass. I actually discovered it was made in Poland, and out of curiosity I even called Nord Glass factory here if I could buy it directly. It turned out AH Spares ordered a batch and they do not stock any. But, they told me, that if I was madly desperate and had an order for some small quantity they could think about it.. I asked what's small, and they said 200, but if I remember correctly they would consider even smaller quantities like 50-100 if they had the time. Best, Tadek Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:38:52 -0600 From: "Dan Stromquist" Subject: [Healeys] Window Glass To: Message-ID: <9E220B24AD78436CACD083A826ED0E00 at DANSTROM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anyone ever order and install the Euro Glass brand offered by Moss as replacement glass for the side windows. I have a BJ8 and am concerned about the quality and fit. They do not have any Triplex glass in stock and am wondering if there is another source for quality glass if the Euro Glass is not recommended.. Dan From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 13 06:13:48 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:13:48 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] bj8 aftermarket hardtop FS in Vancouver Message-ID: http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/pts/1446138865.html NFI From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri Nov 13 06:37:39 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:37:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Window Glass In-Reply-To: <9E220B24AD78436CACD083A826ED0E00@DANSTROM> References: <9E220B24AD78436CACD083A826ED0E00@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <001401ca6466$781b0940$68511bc0$@rr.com> Hi, Dan - I have installed the Moss side window glass on both sides of my BJ8. With new window guides installed, I have experienced binding of the glass on both sides at some point in the travel of the window, the driver's side more so than the passenger's side. I didn't have this before replacing the glass, so I suspect that the curvature of the glass is not exactly what it should be. But I don't have any proof of that. The guides may be the problem. The glass is not marked in a visible location as installed, but I think it is Euro Glass. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Stromquist Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:39 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Window Glass Anyone ever order and install the Euro Glass brand offered by Moss as replacement glass for the side windows. I have a BJ8 and am concerned about the quality and fit. They do not have any Triplex glass in stock and am wondering if there is another source for quality glass if the Euro Glass is not recommended.. Dan From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri Nov 13 06:41:45 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:41:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ivory White, was RE: 100-4 Spruce In-Reply-To: References: , <751d05480911121830t6c80ea49q748d4c063548f5b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001501ca6467$0afe7da0$20fb78e0$@rr.com> Ivory White is specified as the original BJ8 color on all BMIHT certificates. The color is the same as the older Old English White, just a name change. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kahn Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:25 AM To: cnaarndt at gmail.com; jmnewt at comcast.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-4 Spruce Interesting sight. My Heritage paperwork say my 64 BJ8 (built in 63) is Ivory White. This color is not listed on the Auto Color Library. I am getting ready to repaint and I'd like to get some information on Ivory White if anyone has any clues. I had always thought it was Old English White until I got the Heritage report. Rich Kahn From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Nov 13 07:11:42 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:11:42 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ivory White, was RE: 100-4 Spruce In-Reply-To: <001501ca6467$0afe7da0$20fb78e0$@rr.com> References: , <751d05480911121830t6c80ea49q748d4c063548f5b6@mail.gmail.com> <001501ca6467$0afe7da0$20fb78e0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4AFD691E.9070106@comcast.net> Now I r confused. The Pikovnic book lists only OEW for BJ8s ... is the book wrong? Also, as far as I can tell the only other 'white' listed is 'Pale Ivory.' bs BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Ivory White is specified as the original BJ8 color on all BMIHT > certificates. The color is the same as the older Old English White, just a > name change. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 13 07:20:18 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:20:18 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 Spruce In-Reply-To: <751d05480911122142w7dec91cbm2d24178d60fe4a48@mail.gmail.com> References: , <751d05480911121830t6c80ea49q748d4c063548f5b6@mail.gmail.com>, , <751d05480911122142w7dec91cbm2d24178d60fe4a48@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I forget where I saw this, but ... here it is for your perusal. Not sure if it helps or hinders ... http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm > Ivory white > Old English White > Spruce Green From austin.healey at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 07:41:57 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:41:57 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ivory White, was RE: 100-4 Spruce In-Reply-To: <001501ca6467$0afe7da0$20fb78e0$@rr.com> References: , <751d05480911121830t6c80ea49q748d4c063548f5b6@mail.gmail.com> <001501ca6467$0afe7da0$20fb78e0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <0088C820-6EAC-45EB-87E6-B7033FCF82B6@gmail.com> Ivory is not old english. Buttercup v st Sent from my iPhone On 14/11/2009, at 12:41 AM, "BJ8 Healeys" wrote: > Ivory White is specified as the original BJ8 color on all BMIHT > certificates. The color is the same as the older Old English White, > just a > name change. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Richard Kahn > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:25 AM > To: cnaarndt at gmail.com; jmnewt at comcast.net > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-4 Spruce > > Interesting sight. My Heritage paperwork say my 64 BJ8 (built in 63) > is > Ivory > White. This color is not listed on the Auto Color Library. I am > getting > ready > to repaint and I'd like to get some information on Ivory White if > anyone has > any clues. I had always thought it was Old English White until I got > the > Heritage report. > Rich Kahn > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as austin.healey at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From mgcharlie at comcast.net Fri Nov 13 08:17:10 2009 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:17:10 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <4AFD691E.9070106@comcast.net> References: , <751d05480911121830t6c80ea49q748d4c063548f5b6@mail.gmail.com> <001501ca6467$0afe7da0$20fb78e0$@rr.com> <4AFD691E.9070106@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4AFD7876.50504@comcast.net> Bob, I don't know what the correct answer is, but my '60 BT7 is listed as Ivory White on the Heritage Certificate. A former owner bought some touch up paint from William Wolf in Ohio (UK sourced) and that color name is OEW. My understanding is that they are the same color as Steve has stated. Charlie Bob Spidell wrote: > Now I r confused. The Pikovnic book lists only OEW for BJ8s ... is > the book wrong? > > Also, as far as I can tell the only other 'white' listed is 'Pale Ivory.' > > > bs > > > > BJ8 Healeys wrote: >> Ivory White is specified as the original BJ8 color on all BMIHT >> certificates. The color is the same as the older Old English White, >> just a >> name change. >> >> Steve Byers >> HBJ8L/36666 >> BJ8 Registry >> Havelock, NC USA >> > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 08:35:48 2009 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:35:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] No Healey but classic cars Message-ID: We have stumbled onto a program on Wealth TV. (I would have to stumble onto it as it is not applicable to my life.) It is called The Collection. We record it as generally it is not something of interest, but a couple of times it has covered some absolutely beautiful car collections. Today it covered the Nethercutt Museum in Sylmar CA. I wanna go there! They had an early big Healey in one of the rooms, but alas, they chose to highlight a 300 SLR. Also, just looking at their programming list they have another program called Wealth on Wheels. Haven't seen that one yet. Bob Johnson BJ8 From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Fri Nov 13 08:54:15 2009 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:54:15 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Window Glass References: <9E220B24AD78436CACD083A826ED0E00@DANSTROM> <001401ca6466$781b0940$68511bc0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <37ED7FE61BCE48529B42B7C2B3194EE7@cardinalhealth.net> I too just installed the Moss side glass. Same issue as Steve. The windows work but there is binding. I even sanded down the guides and spent time to shim the back of the guides. The curvature is a little off. But the old windows had massive scratches so they needed replacing. Jerry BJ8 > Hi, Dan - > > I have installed the Moss side window glass on both sides of my BJ8. With > new window guides installed, I have experienced binding of the glass on > both > sides at some point in the travel of the window, the driver's side more so > than the passenger's side. I didn't have this before replacing the glass, > so I suspect that the curvature of the glass is not exactly what it should > be. But I don't have any proof of that. The guides may be the problem. > The glass is not marked in a visible location as installed, but I think it > is Euro Glass. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA From peter.svilans at rogers.com Fri Nov 13 08:55:16 2009 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:55:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ivory White Message-ID: <003301ca6479$b1a484d0$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> I believe its always best to return to first sources if at all possible. Austin-Healey white (always factory code WT 3) was already called Ivory White in the BN2 factory colour chip card (pub.no.1297) as early as January, 1956. It was called Ivory White in the 100-Six chip booklet (pub.no. 1531), as well as as the 3000 booklet (pub.no.1531A), and the various 3000 Convertible colour chip booklets (pub.nos. 2161 through 2161H). Interestingly, there is an asterisk next to Ivory White in 2161 that has the note "For colour samples of Ivory White see Old English White" I think the reason for the name change from Old English to Ivory in '56 was simply that at that time it sounded too old and stuffy, the thrust of sales being towards America: hence Reno, Colorado, Florida, Pacific. Into the sixties the tweed cap, pip-pip cheerio, ye-olde English thing would once again be fashionable as a sales theme in the US, and we got British Racing Green and wood dashes in all the various makes of sports cars. Back to first sources. The Austin colour sheets shown in the Auto Color Library are scans of the Canadian R-M (Rinshead-Mason) colour chip booklets put out yearly by that company concurrently with the introduction of new models of cars (The R-M logo is whited-out on each online ACL sheet). They had to match the actual cars at the time , so they're pretty close to a first source. The colours seen online are only the tip of a huge iceberg. If you watch their video, you see a large room crammed with file cabinets of colour chip sheets. The point being: its NOT only "If you can bring it up online that's all there must be". The Austin colours in Curt's link only go up to 1956-7, so the ones you see are not all the Austin colours that ever were. Along with the R-M colour chip sheets (with nice onion-skin paper in between pages, by the way) you of course got the pink sheets with the actual mixing formulas. While these use long obsolete R-M tinting bases, you can still see differences in shades of the same colour. Colorado Red had a more orangey shade for 1957 only, becoming a little more blood red for 1958-64. Florida Green was a slightly deeper shade for the BN2 with its black interior, than the 100-Six with its off-white interior. And Old English White/ Ivory White had two formulas, the 1964 BJ8 version using a slightly larger amount of the tinting base "TE-94 Bright White" instead of the earlier "TE-91 White" in the mix. As the cars retreated into the past, the paint companies combined these similar shades, For example, Colorado Red became a single colour and was combined with the similar Signal Red later on. All great fun. Best Peter From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 09:11:00 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:11:00 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] ceramic coat exhaust manifold Message-ID: <173126440911130811n59aeda88q969e7d4a4b458df4@mail.gmail.com> can I get some opinions on the + - of ceramic coating exhaust manifolds./headers for my BT7? Friend offered to get it done as a favor. Any suggestions for color? Not going to concourse compete the car, but do not want it looking strange either. I have seen other do it, but being color blind, did not really pay attention. -- I Erbs Portland, OR From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 09:30:26 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:30:26 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] No Healey but classic cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <173126440911130830i6cc64c12va98e19e5ed6cdee0@mail.gmail.com> Nethercut is a must see location on any trip to LA. It is in the far northern part of the San Fernando Valley. The have two buildings to see and a restored rail car. Never crowded, great research library as well. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Bob Johnson wrote: > We have stumbled onto a program on Wealth TV. (I would have to stumble > onto it as it is not applicable to my life.) It is called The > Collection. We record it as generally it is not something of interest, > but a couple of times it has covered some absolutely beautiful car > collections. Today it covered the Nethercutt Museum in Sylmar CA. I > wanna go there! They had an early big Healey in one of the rooms, but > alas, they chose to highlight a 300 SLR. Also, just looking at their > programming list they have another program called Wealth on Wheels. > Haven't seen that one yet. > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 13 09:39:06 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:39:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] differential experts Message-ID: I know this is a tough one. The 1960 Bugeye had a rear end HUM at highway speed under load. When you let off the pedal the HUM went away. It was very consistant- meaning it didn't change around corners and increased at higher speeds. I torn apart the rear (which is a 3.9 BTW) hoping to find a screwed up bearing or mashed gears. The only two things I found was light wear (in my opinion- not an expert on rears) on one side of both the crown gear and pinion. When you rub a screw driver across the worn surfaces you can feel variations. Is this normal wear? Also found the inner pinion bearing cage had been bent slightly (probably by someone working on it before) that had rubbed the very top (thin edge) of the race, maybe causing the HUM when the bearings touched the surface under load? Any thoughts? Again I know it is tough to say without seeing it, but I took it to a local machine shop and they didn't think it looked too bad, but wasn't sure either. Thanks, Shawn The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US: WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 09:41:46 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:41:46 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <4AFD7876.50504@comcast.net> References: <751d05480911121830t6c80ea49q748d4c063548f5b6@mail.gmail.com> <001501ca6467$0afe7da0$20fb78e0$@rr.com> <4AFD691E.9070106@comcast.net> <4AFD7876.50504@comcast.net> Message-ID: <751d05480911130841r202000b6ibf84da8e9439b151@mail.gmail.com> Fellow Listers, Let's not make this harder than it is. White six-cylinder cars are listed as Ivory White. However from the Concours Guidelines, 2008 edition, page 117 under 6-cylinder Cars... * - Ivory White and Old English White, though different color names, all were the same WT.3 paint code.* Also from Don Pikovnik's book "Austin Healey Guide to Historic Colors." *Old English White - WT.03 ICI - 2379 aka "Ivory"* OK, one more time.. *AKA "IVORY"* And for those who are still confused aka means - also known as. THEREFORE...for all intents and purposes it says Ivory White (is listed as the color name for *our* cars) but is in fact Old English White. My apologies to Wm. Shakespeare - "A white Austin Healey by any other name will still be Olde English White." This horse is DEAD. Cheers ;-) Curt > > BJ8 Healeys wrote: > >> Ivory White is specified as the original BJ8 color on all BMIHT > >> certificates. The color is the same as the older Old English White, > >> just a > >> name change. > >> > >> Steve Byers > >> HBJ8L/36666 > >> BJ8 Registry > >> Havelock, NC USA From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri Nov 13 09:51:21 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:51:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ivory White, was RE: 100-4 Spruce In-Reply-To: <0088C820-6EAC-45EB-87E6-B7033FCF82B6@gmail.com> References: , <751d05480911121830t6c80ea49q748d4c063548f5b6@mail.gmail.com> <001501ca6467$0afe7da0$20fb78e0$@rr.com> <0088C820-6EAC-45EB-87E6-B7033FCF82B6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002601ca6481$87acad80$97060880$@rr.com> Hi, Chris - Quoting from the book Authentic Restoration Guide Austin-Healey 100/100-6/3000 by Gary Anderson and Roger Moment (page 160): "Some color shades have been the source of confusion....Ivory White appears to have been simply a new marketing name for Old English White, as used previously." I know for a fact that for all of the 660 BJ8s for which I have a copy of the BMIHT certificate, and for those that left the factory painted white, the cert says the name of the color is Ivory White. I'm not sure what "Buttercup v st" means. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dimmock [mailto:austin.healey at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:42 AM To: BJ8 Healeys Cc: Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Ivory White, was RE: 100-4 Spruce Ivory is not old english. Buttercup v st Sent from my iPhone From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri Nov 13 09:54:00 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:54:00 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] white paint Message-ID: Thanks to all who jumped in. I didn't want to cause disagreement here. My BJ8 is just a driver but I think the original color would be perfect. Again thanks for the input. At what it costs to get quality paint I want it right the first time. I will present both names and information to the painter. Again thanks for the input. Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Nov 13 10:12:13 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <751d05480911130841r202000b6ibf84da8e9439b151@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> IIRC--the book's at home--Pikovnic lists two whites for BN1s and BN2s: OEW and Ivory (Pale or White I don't recall--think Pale). I'll check tonight, but I believe they were different color codes (the paint chips were perceptibly different). So, the answer is: there were two 'whites' for the 100s, and one--known either as OE or Ivory--for the 6-cyl cars? bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Fellow Listers, Let's not make this harder than it is. White six-cylinder cars are listed as Ivory White. However from the Concours Guidelines, 2008 edition, page 117 under 6-cylinder Cars... - Ivory White and Old English White, though different color names, all were the same WT.3 paint code. Also from Don Pikovnik's book "Austin Healey Guide to Historic Colors." Old English White - WT.03 ICI - 2379 aka "Ivory" OK, one more time.. AKA "IVORY" And for those who are still confused aka means - also known as. THEREFORE...for all intents and purposes it says Ivory White (is listed as the color name for our cars) but is in fact Old English White. My apologies to Wm. Shakespeare - "A white Austin Healey by any other name will still be Olde English White." This horse is DEAD. Cheers ;-) Curt From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri Nov 13 10:24:17 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:24:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ivory White, was RE: 100-4 Spruce In-Reply-To: <4AFD691E.9070106@comcast.net> References: , <751d05480911121830t6c80ea49q748d4c063548f5b6@mail.gmail.com> <001501ca6467$0afe7da0$20fb78e0$@rr.com> <4AFD691E.9070106@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002a01ca6486$20ff06a0$62fd13e0$@rr.com> Bob, I don't have the Pikovnic book, but apparently the records held by BMIHT say the BJ8 color was called Ivory White. Of the 660 BMIHT certificates I have for BJ8s, 111 of them are for original white cars, plus 15 others for white as one of the duo-tone colors. All of them call the color "Ivory White". I hear lots of folks say their BJ8 is "Old English White". Until I see a certificate from BMIHT that gives that color name, then my opinion is that Old English White technically is not the correct name for the BJ8 color, although Old English White and Ivory White might come out of the same can. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: Bob Spidell [mailto:bspidell at comcast.net] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:12 AM To: BJ8 Healeys Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Ivory White, was RE: 100-4 Spruce Now I r confused. The Pikovnic book lists only OEW for BJ8s ... is the book wrong? Also, as far as I can tell the only other 'white' listed is 'Pale Ivory.' bs From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Nov 13 10:35:31 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:35:31 EST Subject: [Healeys] Ivory white, Old English White, and Pale Ivory Message-ID: In a message dated 11/13/09 8:49:30 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Ivory is not old english. > Buttercup v st > > Begging your pardon, but the earlier posters are correct: Ivory White and Old English (never Olde English) White are the same color. AFAIK, Austin and Morris used different names for the same paint code, and sometime after Healey assembly was moved from Longbridge to Abingdon, the naming got rationalized. HOWEVER, Pale Ivory is NOT the same as Ivory White. Pale Ivory, in fact is a yellower white somewhere between Ivory White (often described as a "creamy white") and Primrose. Incidentally, Ivory White/Old English White was a very common color among English cars, and was used as the standard white on Jaguars of the same period. My 1960 Jag MkII and my 59 BN7 had identical shades of white. Gary From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 13 10:44:37 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:44:37 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] ceramic coat exhaust manifold In-Reply-To: <173126440911130811n59aeda88q969e7d4a4b458df4@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911130811n59aeda88q969e7d4a4b458df4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I had a big heat problem with my Midget and so I got the header and the intake ceramic coated. The theory was that the heat from the header was vaporizing the fuel. The car was modified when I got it and a stock heat shield would not fit on http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/Intake009.jpg It worked wonders. > can I get some opinions on the + - of ceramic coating exhaust > manifolds./headers for my BT7? Friend offered to get it done as a favor. Any > suggestions for color? Not going to concourse compete the car, but do not > want it looking strange either. I have seen other do it, but being color > blind, did not really pay attention. > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 13 11:09:15 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:09:15 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <751d05480911130841r202000b6ibf84da8e9439b151@mail.gmail.com>, <1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: This is the book that you refer to, right? http://www.coloramic.com/britcars.htm http://www.coloramic.com/articles/ahcgtext.htm http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm There are 2 ICI codes for OEW according to this. ( There is also a Pale Ivory. ) OEW is your battle. My interest when I found this site, was the Carmen Red and the Carmine Red with the same Mfg Code and different ICI codes. Battle on. > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:13 +0000 > > IIRC--the book's at home--Pikovnic lists two whites for BN1s and BN2s: OEW and Ivory (Pale or White I don't recall--think Pale). I'll check tonight, but I believe they were different color codes (the paint chips were perceptibly different). > > So, the answer is: there were two 'whites' for the 100s, and one--known either as OE or Ivory--for the 6-cyl cars? > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > Fellow Listers, > > Let's not make this harder than it is. > > White six-cylinder cars are listed as Ivory White. However from the Concours Guidelines, 2008 edition, page 117 under 6-cylinder Cars... > > - Ivory White and Old English White, though different color names, all were the same WT.3 paint code. > > Also from Don Pikovnik's book "Austin Healey Guide to Historic Colors." > > Old English White - WT.03 > ICI - 2379 > aka "Ivory" > > OK, one more time.. AKA "IVORY" > > And for those who are still confused aka means - also known as. > > THEREFORE...for all intents and purposes it says Ivory White (is listed as the color name for our cars) but is in fact Old English White. > > My apologies to Wm. Shakespeare - "A white Austin Healey by any other name will still be Olde English White." > > This horse is DEAD. > > Cheers ;-) > > Curt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Nov 13 11:14:24 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:14:24 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Ivory White, was RE: 100-4 Spruce In-Reply-To: <002a01ca6486$20ff06a0$62fd13e0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <20091113121424.RDVG9.795547.root@ispmxfep11-z01> FWIW, up until a few years ago I thought my first 66 E was OEW and proceeded to tell everyone it was. Then, I learned it was called "cream". Could that mean that OEW was a term coined by us, or was it a real original color? tom ---- BJ8 Healeys wrote: ============= Bob, I don't have the Pikovnic book, but apparently the records held by BMIHT say the BJ8 color was called Ivory White. Of the 660 BMIHT certificates I have for BJ8s, 111 of them are for original white cars, plus 15 others for white as one of the duo-tone colors. All of them call the color "Ivory White". I hear lots of folks say their BJ8 is "Old English White". Until I see a certificate from BMIHT that gives that color name, then my opinion is that Old English White technically is not the correct name for the BJ8 color, although Old English White and Ivory White might come out of the same can. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: Bob Spidell [mailto:bspidell at comcast.net] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:12 AM To: BJ8 Healeys Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Ivory White, was RE: 100-4 Spruce Now I r confused. The Pikovnic book lists only OEW for BJ8s ... is the book wrong? Also, as far as I can tell the only other 'white' listed is 'Pale Ivory.' bs Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 11:50:26 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:50:26 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] white paint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <751d05480911131050y417acb0du4dd5074ffbd54fa9@mail.gmail.com> Richard, Presenting both names and information to the painter will only assure that you DO NOT get the correct color. This is what I'm trying to get across to everyone is to *forget the names!* What you want is WT.3 and then from there work with an original sample off of your car, if you have one, and have your painter fine tune the match from there. Remember, not all painters are created equal, so results may vary. Cheers, Curt On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Richard Kahn wrote: > Thanks to all who jumped in. I didn't want to cause disagreement here. My > BJ8 > is just a driver but I think the original color would be perfect. Again > thanks > for the input. At what it costs to get quality paint I want it right the > first > time. I will present both names and information to the painter. Again > thanks > for the input. > Rich Kahn > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. > > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M > FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 12:02:10 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:02:10 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <751d05480911130841r202000b6ibf84da8e9439b151@mail.gmail.com> <1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <751d05480911131102n5e6e624cjeab4c026b1df87c8@mail.gmail.com> Bob, You are correct but it's not Ivory or Ivory White it's *"Pale Ivory"*, a completely different color with its own color code and it is noticeably yellower in color. Pale Ivory - YL.01 ICI - 3487 Actually, the Pikovnik book also lists Pale Ivory as a color for not only the BN1/2 but also the BN4 through the BT/N7. The Concours Guidelines DO NOT list Pale Ivory as a color option. I've talked to Roger Moment about this and we are researching. Also in talking to Roger he reminded me that these paint chips were for paint types that no longer exist or are not used. Therefore the only way you are going to get an accurate color match is to either match directly off of an existing area off of the car but then there will still be some matching done by the painter to get it spot on match. The "Names" mean very little anymore due to the changes in paints over that last 50 years. Additionally, these modern computer based matching systems can only go so far and there is still a fair amount of "fiddling" that the painter needs to do to get an accurate color match Now to digress a little, matching original Golden Beige Metallic will not work since the original paint faded to a much darker shade one to two years from new. And yes, even in those areas that never saw the sun! This has been confirmed by fellow Concours Committee member John Hodgman who has a vast amount of experience on this subject. Once again when we did my friends GBM BJ8 we got what I and Roger consider a very accurate match to the original color, except that the metal flake was not fine enough, but that's another story. Correct GBM should have almost a pinkish shade in the sunlight. The great thing about having Auto Color Library local to me is that they supply the paint. I don't know if they are going to go to the trouble of helping you match a specific color only to have you buy the paint from someone else. Cheers Curt From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 12:22:29 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:22:29 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: References: <751d05480911130841r202000b6ibf84da8e9439b151@mail.gmail.com> <1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <751d05480911131122t11c43ec9ta09dcf8deec38af5@mail.gmail.com> Robert, Yes, this is the book I have been referring to. Very simple for you, just call Roger Moment and talk to him about Carmine Red. Since that's the color of his Concours BN1 you are certain to get the correct information. Curt On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:09 AM, wrote: > This is the book that you refer to, right? > > http://www.coloramic.com/britcars.htm > > http://www.coloramic.com/articles/ahcgtext.htm > > http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm > > > > There are 2 ICI codes for OEW according to this. > > ( There is also a Pale Ivory. ) > > > > OEW is your battle. My interest when I found this site, was the Carmen Red > and the Carmine Red with the same Mfg Code and different ICI codes. > > > > Battle on. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Nov 13 12:29:34 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:29:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98084.76081.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> If thre's this much of a fight over white, wait until someone asks for the correct formula for Healey Blue! --- On Fri, 11/13/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW To: "Healeys" Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:09 PM OEW is your battle. My interest when I found this site, was the Carmen Red and the Carmine Red with the same Mfg Code and different ICI codes. Battle on. > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:13 +0000 > > IIRC--the book's at home--Pikovnic lists two whites for BN1s and BN2s: OEW and Ivory (Pale or White I don't recall--think Pale). I'll check tonight, but I believe they were different color codes (the paint chips were perceptibly different). > > So, the answer is: there were two 'whites' for the 100s, and one--known either as OE or Ivory--for the 6-cyl cars? > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > Fellow Listers, > > Let's not make this harder than it is. > > White six-cylinder cars are listed as Ivory White. However from the Concours Guidelines, 2008 edition, page 117 under 6-cylinder Cars... > > - Ivory White and Old English White, though different color names, all were the same WT.3 paint code. > > Also from Don Pikovnik's book "Austin Healey Guide to Historic Colors." > > Old English White - WT.03 > ICI - 2379 > aka "Ivory" > > OK, one more time.. AKA "IVORY" > > And for those who are still confused aka means - also known as. > > THEREFORE...for all intents and purposes it says Ivory White (is listed as the color name for our cars) but is in fact Old English White. > > My apologies to Wm. Shakespeare - "A white Austin Healey by any other name will still be Olde English White." > > This horse is DEAD. > > Cheers ;-) > > Curt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Nov 13 12:32:44 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:32:44 EST Subject: [Healeys] White, one more time Message-ID: In a message dated 11/13/09 11:09:18 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Also from Don Pikovnik's book "Austin Healey Guide to Historic Colors." > > Old English White - WT.03 > ICI - 2379 > aka "Ivory" > > OK, one more time.. AKA "IVORY" > 'tis true that Pikovnik lists "Pale Ivory" as one of two white colors for Healeys, from BN1 through BN/BT7. However, he states in a footnote that the listing is based on the Austin-Healey Concours Registry guidelines [from that year] which he believes to be wrong. He's right; if the Guidelines in Sept. 1999 said that, the Guidelines were wrong. By the time we wrote our book in 2000, this had been sorted out, and we state specifically that Pale Ivory is a different shade from "Old English (Ivory) White" and was never used on Healeys. I also checked the most recent Restoration Guidelines, and they don't mention "Pale Ivory." Are we done here? For the fellow painting his BJ8, look for either Ivory White or Old English White, and you'll be fine. Best Gary From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 13 12:34:19 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:34:19 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <98084.76081.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: , <98084.76081.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think the big problem is that we're a lot more concerned about the absolutely correct colour than the factory was. Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:29:34 -0800 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com If thre's this much of a fight over white, wait until someone asks for the correct formula for Healey Blue! --- On Fri, 11/13/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW To: "Healeys" Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:09 PM OEW is your battle. My interest when I found this site, was the Carmen Red and the Carmine Red with the same Mfg Code and different ICI codes. Battle on. > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:13 +0000 > > IIRC--the book's at home--Pikovnic lists two whites for BN1s and BN2s: OEW and Ivory (Pale or White I don't recall--think Pale). I'll check tonight, but I believe they were different color codes (the paint chips were perceptibly different). > > So, the answer is: there were two 'whites' for the 100s, and one--known either as OE or Ivory--for the 6-cyl cars? > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > Fellow Listers, > > Let's not make this harder than it is. > > White six-cylinder cars are listed as Ivory White. However from the Concours Guidelines, 2008 edition, page 117 under 6-cylinder Cars... > > - Ivory White and Old English White, though different color names, all were the same WT.3 paint code. > > Also from Don Pikovnik's book "Austin Healey Guide to Historic Colors." > > Old English White - WT.03 > ICI - 2379 > aka "Ivory" > > OK, one more time.. AKA "IVORY" > > And for those who are still confused aka means - also known as. > > THEREFORE...for all intents and purposes it says Ivory White (is listed as the color name for our cars) but is in fact Old English White. > > My apologies to Wm. Shakespeare - "A white Austin Healey by any other name will still be Olde English White." > > This horse is DEAD. > > Cheers ;-) > > Curt From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 13 13:30:44 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:30:44 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] mystery part Message-ID: Can anyone identify this? It's not necessarily a Healey part. http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/WhatMotor.jpg From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Fri Nov 13 13:48:40 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:48:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <98084.76081.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <98084.76081.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CFC3AE0-8075-4168-9A9C-6DB39927FC77@sbcglobal.net> You want a good one. Lets look at British Racing Green. Healey had 3 shade, Then every other British Manufacturer had their own version. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 13, 2009, at 11:29 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > If thre's this much of a fight over white, wait until someone asks > for the > correct formula for Healey Blue! > > --- On Fri, 11/13/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca > wrote: > > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW > To: "Healeys" > Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:09 PM > > > OEW is your battle. My interest when I found this site, was the > Carmen Red > and the Carmine Red with the same Mfg Code and different ICI codes. > > > > Battle on. > > > >> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:13 +0000 >> >> IIRC--the book's at home--Pikovnic lists two whites for BN1s and >> BN2s: OEW > and Ivory (Pale or White I don't recall--think Pale). I'll check > tonight, but > I believe they were different color codes (the paint chips were > perceptibly > different). >> >> So, the answer is: there were two 'whites' for the 100s, and one-- >> known > either as OE or Ivory--for the 6-cyl cars? >> >> >> bs >> >> -------------------------------- >> Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA >> >> >> Fellow Listers, >> >> Let's not make this harder than it is. >> >> White six-cylinder cars are listed as Ivory White. However from the > Concours > Guidelines, 2008 edition, page 117 under 6-cylinder Cars... >> >> - Ivory White and Old English White, though different color names, >> all were > the same WT.3 paint code. >> >> Also from Don Pikovnik's book "Austin Healey Guide to Historic >> Colors." >> >> Old English White - WT.03 >> ICI - 2379 >> aka "Ivory" >> >> OK, one more time.. AKA "IVORY" >> >> And for those who are still confused aka means - also known as. >> >> THEREFORE...for all intents and purposes it says Ivory White (is >> listed as > the color name for our cars) but is in fact Old English White. >> >> My apologies to Wm. Shakespeare - "A white Austin Healey by any >> other name > will still be Olde English White." >> >> This horse is DEAD. >> >> Cheers ;-) >> >> Curt >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From jstmorris at yahoo.com Fri Nov 13 13:55:04 2009 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:55:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <832672.65434.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If you check out the University Motors auction, there is a copy of Pikovnic's book available along with a number of other publications. See: http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/showitem.cgi?catid=9767&itemid=74 or http://tinyurl.com/y9kgmeq --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Bob Spidell wrote: << IIRC--the book's at home--Pikovnic lists two whites for BN1s and BN2s: OEW and Ivory (Pale or White I don't recall--think Pale). I'll check tonight, but I believe they were different color codes (the paint chips were perceptibly different). So, the answer is: there were two 'whites' for the 100s, and one--known either as OE or Ivory--for the 6-cyl cars? >> __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From e-wilkins at cox.net Fri Nov 13 14:06:14 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:06:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] mystery part In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Blower motor? On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:30 PM, wrote: > Can anyone identify this? > > It's not necessarily a Healey part. > > http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/WhatMotor.jpg > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Nov 13 14:13:44 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:13:44 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <98084.76081.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20091113151344.PBL43.800372.root@ispmxfep11-z01> No worry Rick---I have the correct color HB color on my BJ8!!:) ---- HealeyRick wrote: ============= If thre's this much of a fight over white, wait until someone asks for the correct formula for Healey Blue! --- On Fri, 11/13/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW To: "Healeys" Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:09 PM OEW is your battle. My interest when I found this site, was the Carmen Red and the Carmine Red with the same Mfg Code and different ICI codes. Battle on. > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:13 +0000 > > IIRC--the book's at home--Pikovnic lists two whites for BN1s and BN2s: OEW and Ivory (Pale or White I don't recall--think Pale). I'll check tonight, but I believe they were different color codes (the paint chips were perceptibly different). > > So, the answer is: there were two 'whites' for the 100s, and one--known either as OE or Ivory--for the 6-cyl cars? > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > Fellow Listers, > > Let's not make this harder than it is. > > White six-cylinder cars are listed as Ivory White. However from the Concours Guidelines, 2008 edition, page 117 under 6-cylinder Cars... > > - Ivory White and Old English White, though different color names, all were the same WT.3 paint code. > > Also from Don Pikovnik's book "Austin Healey Guide to Historic Colors." > > Old English White - WT.03 > ICI - 2379 > aka "Ivory" > > OK, one more time.. AKA "IVORY" > > And for those who are still confused aka means - also known as. > > THEREFORE...for all intents and purposes it says Ivory White (is listed as the color name for our cars) but is in fact Old English White. > > My apologies to Wm. Shakespeare - "A white Austin Healey by any other name will still be Olde English White." > > This horse is DEAD. > > Cheers ;-) > > Curt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Nov 13 14:17:12 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:17:12 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] mystery part In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091113151712.3A3V5.800464.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Would taking it out of the bag help to really see it better? ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: ============= Can anyone identify this? It's not necessarily a Healey part. http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/WhatMotor.jpg Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 13 14:46:03 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:46:03 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] mystery part In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Yeah, that's what it looks like. But, from what? It's not from a BN1 or 2, as far as I know. The BN1 blower motor has the shaft and the 3 mounting ears, or whatever you call them, at opposite ends while this one has them at the same end. This is a BN1 blower motor: http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/BN1_heater_fan_motor.JPG > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > From: e-wilkins at cox.net > > Blower motor? > > > > On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:30 PM, > wrote: > > > Can anyone identify this? > > > > It's not necessarily a Healey part. > > > > http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/WhatMotor.jpg From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 13 14:49:11 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:49:11 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] mystery part In-Reply-To: <20091113151712.3A3V5.800464.root@ispmxfep11-z01> References: , <20091113151712.3A3V5.800464.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Message-ID: Yeah, probably! :) It's sealed though and if I'm going to be storing it for 30 years, it may as well stay sealed. On the other hand, if it can really be identified and there's the possibility that I can find it a better home then I'll open it in a heartbeat ... or 2. > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:17:12 -0600 > Would taking it out of the bag help to really see it better? > ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > > ============= > Can anyone identify this? > > It's not necessarily a Healey part. > > http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/WhatMotor.jpg From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Nov 13 15:07:19 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:07:19 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] mystery part In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AFDD897.4090302@chello.nl> Looks like it could be: -electrical motor, perhaps from a heater fan? -time switch (knob missing) for e.g. parking lights -electrical actuator, linear Kees Oudesluijs NL robertduquette at sympatico.ca schreef: > Can anyone identify this? > > It's not necessarily a Healey part. > > http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/WhatMotor.jpg From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Nov 13 15:12:33 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:33 EST Subject: [Healeys] Healey Colors Message-ID: In a message dated 11/13/09 2:05:58 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > If thre's this much of a fight over white, wait until someone asks for > the > correct formula for Healey Blue! > There's no real problem: My car is painted Healey Blue and Ivory White, and is spot-on correct. Any car that doesn't match mine (including the two other blue/white Healeys on the cover of the earlier editions of our book) is, by definition, incorrect. Grins, Gary From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 13 16:31:41 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:31:41 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] mystery part In-Reply-To: <62062EBBC754460C99B510B2D3BB658E@LIFEBOOK> References: , <62062EBBC754460C99B510B2D3BB658E@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: This is something that someone sent to me as a blower motor for the BN1. To me, without comparing them side by side, it looks to be about the right size and shape other than the mounting points and the shaft being on the "same" side instead of opposing sides ... and that aluminum plate. With my eyesight and the plastic wrap, the only thing that I can make out is "England". Perhaps I can get my daughter to look at it tomorrow. ( Maybe I ought to get a magnifying glas too! :) ) > From: richchrysler at quickclic.net > > Is this the suspected "wrong" blower motor from your heater assembly? Any > markings, stampings, or labels on the motor body? > > Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > > Can anyone identify this? > > > > It's not necessarily a Healey part. > > > > http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/WhatMotor.jpg From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Fri Nov 13 16:47:06 2009 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:47:06 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Colors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CF651A2786344E9AA74137F9A9F3235@LeonardPCPC> No. No. Gary: MY car on the cover of your earlier editions is the correct blue. All paint has been matched to a patch of original paint under the padded dash top and inside the doors that have never seen sunlight. Mine HAS to be the correct color blue!! ;-) Bigger grin. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Colors > In a message dated 11/13/09 2:05:58 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > >> If thre's this much of a fight over white, wait until someone asks for >> the >> correct formula for Healey Blue! >> > > There's no real problem: My car is painted Healey Blue and Ivory White, > and > is spot-on correct. Any car that doesn't match mine (including the two > other blue/white Healeys on the cover of the earlier editions of our book) > is, > by definition, incorrect. > Grins, > Gary From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Fri Nov 13 16:53:01 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:53:01 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Fender Flairs Message-ID: We are pulling a BT7 apart that had been heavily modified for a V8. The fenders have been flaired. If any one is looking for a set that have already been flaired we got em. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 17:07:00 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:07:00 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] differential experts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's called "Galling" ant it's usually caused by driving the car with no oil in the diff. Not much you can do about it, as long as you can live with the hum, it should be ok. On 11/14/09, S and T Miller wrote: > I know this is a tough one. The 1960 Bugeye had a rear end HUM at highway > speed under load. When you let off the pedal the HUM went away. It was > very > consistant- meaning it didn't change around corners and increased at higher > speeds. I torn apart the rear (which is a 3.9 BTW) hoping to find a screwed > up bearing or mashed gears. The only two things I found was light wear (in > my > opinion- not an expert on rears) on one side of both the crown gear and > pinion. When you rub a screw driver across the worn surfaces you can feel > variations. Is this normal wear? Also found the inner pinion bearing cage > had been bent slightly (probably by someone working on it before) that had > rubbed the very top (thin edge) of the race, maybe causing the HUM when the > bearings touched the surface under load? Any thoughts? Again I know it is > tough to say without seeing it, but I took it to a local machine shop and > they > didn't think it looked too bad, but wasn't sure either. Thanks, Shawn > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US: > WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 17:09:29 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:09:29 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] ceramic coat exhaust manifold In-Reply-To: <173126440911130811n59aeda88q969e7d4a4b458df4@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911130811n59aeda88q969e7d4a4b458df4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I Erbs - This is the best thing for a healey because the carbs are on top of the exhaust manifold. It works wonders to cut down on heat. I highly Recommend Jet Hot Extreme Sterling. Alan On 11/14/09, I Erbs wrote: > can I get some opinions on the + - of ceramic coating exhaust > manifolds./headers for my BT7? Friend offered to get it done as a favor. Any > suggestions for color? Not going to concourse compete the car, but do not > want it looking strange either. I have seen other do it, but being color > blind, did not really pay attention. > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Fri Nov 13 17:13:30 2009 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:13:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Colors References: Message-ID: <3687B26536CB4BF18C787D9AE45F497B@your4dacd0ea75> Actually I think the difference in Ivory White and Old English White was determined by whether a Le Mans kit was installed or not. Dallas From HealeyHundred at comcast.net Fri Nov 13 17:53:28 2009 From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net (Richard Gordon) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:53:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive Part 1 References: Message-ID: > Dave asked me to forward this to the list: > > As you may remember, sometime in late August, I reported that the > overdrive on my big Healey was making a strange noise when it was > engaged. I decided to fix it myself and did, with some help. I > replaced the two bearings in the front section and one spacer of the > correct thickness. "The book" says some special tools are required > and I worried about that but, as I'll tell you, they were minimal. > I got the BN7 on the road on Saturday. It is good to drive it > again. The OD shifts more positively than it did before and it is a > lot quieter. > > > When I started this project I got some great advice from Dave Porter > at Porter Customs in Albuquerque. He gave me the names of some > shops he trusted for OD work but the one in Denver didn't meet my > needs. I don't know how he got involved but his information was > the impetus that made me decide to do it myself. After careful > disassembly I discovered that the innards of the OD are not > particularly complicated for the novice. Other assistance that was > used was Jim Peterson at T's Sunrise, a restoration shop with > experience in all British cars. He was referred to me by a member > of the MG T Register. Of course, I had to pay him for his service. > > Jack Newton also helped by lending me an extra transmission shaft to > align the splines in the OD. This shaft was absolutely necessary as > the trans and the OD slipped right together after aligning this > way. I had tried many many times to get the alignment correct > before using this shaft and I believe it to be impossible without > this tool. Roger Moment suggested laying the transmission on its > side as opposed to standing the transmission up and putting the OD > onto it or, as the manual suggests, standing the OD up and dropping > the trans onto it. Sideways was much easier and if you have ever > had the experience with the springs, which want to drop onto the > floor when the OD is upside down, you understand the issue. From HealeyHundred at comcast.net Fri Nov 13 17:53:32 2009 From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net (Richard Gordon) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:53:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 References: Message-ID: > I used the Healey Workshop Manual and the Haynes Manual. These were > helpful but both have some inaccuracies and omissions. For > example: The Haynes Manual says to jack up the rear of the car and > drop the Trans/OD assembly out from underneath. This , however, is > impossible. The assembly is longer than the frame opening so you > have to take it out through the cockpit. The drawings in the > Healey Manual are not clear and have some inaccuracies. I also went > online and discovered that the Triumph guys have a lot of info on > the OD, some of which add clarity to the project. I should mention > that Roger suggested I check the Austin Healey club USA website. I > didn't belong to the club and was almost finished anyway. I don't > know what info is there. These OD's are used in many British > marques. More than I expected. > > To clarify the unclear info in the manuals regarding lubrication of > the Trans/OD, I found a reference online which says, in no uncertain > terms, to use 30W nondetergent oil. A later part of this article on > these overdrives tells "How to Properly Shift a Laycock Overdrive." www.quantummechanics.com > . > > I hope you enjoy and learn from this description as much as I > enjoyed and learned from the repair project. > > Dave From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Nov 13 17:55:17 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:55:17 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] mystery part In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091113185517.7R87F.786297.root@ispmxfep13-z02> I think someone already guessed it anyway:) ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: ============= Yeah, probably! :) It's sealed though and if I'm going to be storing it for 30 years, it may as well stay sealed. On the other hand, if it can really be identified and there's the possibility that I can find it a better home then I'll open it in a heartbeat ... or 2. > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:17:12 -0600 > Would taking it out of the bag help to really see it better? > ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > > ============= > Can anyone identify this? > > It's not necessarily a Healey part. > > http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/WhatMotor.jpg Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Nov 13 18:04:26 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:04:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Healey Colors In-Reply-To: <0CF651A2786344E9AA74137F9A9F3235@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <154330.96936.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'm just bringing this up because I can't take any more OEW/IW talk. When I was looking to paint my Healey Blue BJ7, (which we all know is really Ice Blue Metallic) the local paint shop mixed up a batch of ICI BU4 lacquer and sprayed it out and used their computer color scanner to come up with the base coat/clear coat PPG formula that was put on the car. It's a beautiful color and I'm quite happy with it. A few weeks ago, I was replacing some of the original trunk lining and unearthed some Healey Blue panels that haven't seen the light of day since 1963. My computer generated color was close, but not exact. I wonder if those hidden interior and trunk panels we value so much as the "original" color looked the same as the color when it was painted on the car''s exterior Reason I'm asking is I need to make sure I get all the Concours points I can with the correct color, because I think I might lose a few with the 5.0 Ford motor and T5 transmission. --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Len and/or Marge Hartnett wrote: From: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Colors To: "Healey Mail List" Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 6:47 PM No. No. Gary: MY car on the cover of your earlier editions is the correct blue. All paint has been matched to a patch of original paint under the padded dash top and inside the doors that have never seen sunlight. Mine HAS to be the correct color blue!! ;-) Bigger grin. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Colors > In a message dated 11/13/09 2:05:58 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > >> If thre's this much of a fight over white, wait until someone asks for >> the >> correct formula for Healey Blue! >> > > There's no real problem: My car is painted Healey Blue and Ivory White, and > is spot-on correct. Any car that doesn't match mine (including the two > other blue/white Healeys on the cover of the earlier editions of our book) is, > by definition, incorrect. > Grins, > Gary Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 18:18:30 2009 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:18:30 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] ceramic coat exhaust manifold In-Reply-To: References: <173126440911130811n59aeda88q969e7d4a4b458df4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5caeedb50911131718v5796018bk5b1719554baea4ce@mail.gmail.com> I will send you photos of mine tonight. i also have it on my E type and XK 150 FHC ron rader 1965 BJ8 (for sale) On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > > I Erbs - > > This is the best thing for a healey because the carbs are on top of > the exhaust manifold. It works wonders to cut down on heat. I highly > Recommend Jet Hot Extreme Sterling. From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk Fri Nov 13 22:39:57 2009 From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:39:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Healeys] Re Healey colours Message-ID: <860938.36887.qm@web24001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> British cars of the 50's and 60's had much brighter and more polished paintwork on the bits that could be seen than those that couldn't. In fact inside engine compartments the finish was often not much better than what overspray looks like. And even exterior paintwork was nowhere near the look of today's over-restored concours winners. ".......I wonder if those hidden interior and trunk panels we value so much as the "original" color looked the same as the color when it was painted on the car''s exterior ..............." Rgds Mike Brooks 56 BN2 From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri Nov 13 23:45:54 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:45:54 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: References: <751d05480911130841r202000b6ibf84da8e9439b151@mail.gmail.com>, , <1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>, Message-ID: Okay, here we go again. This sight list OEW as WT.03 where other sights list it as WT.3. I am not sure it will matter for me which white I use. > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:09:15 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW > > This is the book that you refer to, right? > > http://www.coloramic.com/britcars.htm > > http://www.coloramic.com/articles/ahcgtext.htm > > http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm > > > > There are 2 ICI codes for OEW according to this. > > ( There is also a Pale Ivory. ) > > > > OEW is your battle. My interest when I found this site, was the Carmen Red > and the Carmine Red with the same Mfg Code and different ICI codes. > > > > Battle on. > > > > > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:13 +0000 > > > > IIRC--the book's at home--Pikovnic lists two whites for BN1s and BN2s: OEW > and Ivory (Pale or White I don't recall--think Pale). I'll check tonight, but > I believe they were different color codes (the paint chips were perceptibly > different). > > > > So, the answer is: there were two 'whites' for the 100s, and one--known > either as OE or Ivory--for the 6-cyl cars? > > > > > > bs > > > > -------------------------------- > > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > > > Fellow Listers, > > > > Let's not make this harder than it is. > > > > White six-cylinder cars are listed as Ivory White. However from the Concours > Guidelines, 2008 edition, page 117 under 6-cylinder Cars... > > > > - Ivory White and Old English White, though different color names, all were > the same WT.3 paint code. > > > > Also from Don Pikovnik's book "Austin Healey Guide to Historic Colors." > > > > Old English White - WT.03 > > ICI - 2379 > > aka "Ivory" > > > > OK, one more time.. AKA "IVORY" > > > > And for those who are still confused aka means - also known as. > > > > THEREFORE...for all intents and purposes it says Ivory White (is listed as > the color name for our cars) but is in fact Old English White. > > > > My apologies to Wm. Shakespeare - "A white Austin Healey by any other name > will still be Olde English White." > > > > This horse is DEAD. > > > > Cheers ;-) > > > > Curt > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Nov 14 01:39:55 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:39:55 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AFE6CDB.5040007@chello.nl> For lubrication these OD transmissions ( in Healey, Sunbeam, Triumph, Jensen, MG, Austin, Morris, Vauxhall, Volvo and many others) never use transmission oil like EP80 or 90. Always use engine oil, 20W50 will be fine, allthough SAE 30 is often specified. The EP oil contains additives that will destroy certain parts in the OD and also in some instances in the gearbox, as with e.g. Sunbeam. Kees Oudesluijs From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Nov 14 05:01:59 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:01:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Re Healey colours In-Reply-To: <860938.36887.qm@web24001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <624536.63797.qm@web51409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I must have got the deluxe paint job in the engine compartment with much more paint than overspray as witnessed by the factory original paint runs all over the place! --- On Sat, 11/14/09, mike brooks wrote: In fact inside engine compartments the finish was often not much better than what overspray looks like. And even exterior paintwork was nowhere near the look of today's over-restored concours winners. \ From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 14 05:43:00 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:43:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Part 1 References: Message-ID: <002601ca6528$00401f60$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> IMHO, trany standing up and lowering the OD down on top is the way to go. The springs shouldn't be an issue if you put the adapter plate on the OD unit first which encapsulates the springs. For a pretty good deomonstration of this go to the U Tube University motors videos and look for John Twists OD install clip. He also suggests to champher the pump cam to help with a nice smooth install, well sometimes. Priceless. Mark Roger Moment suggested laying the transmission on its >> side as opposed to standing the transmission up and putting the OD >> onto it or, as the manual suggests, standing the OD up and dropping >> the trans onto it. Sideways was much easier and if you have ever >> had the experience with the springs, which want to drop onto the >> floor when the OD is upside down, you understand the issue. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 14 05:45:46 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:45:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 References: <4AFE6CDB.5040007@chello.nl> Message-ID: <002b01ca6528$62f87df0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> And of course there is the highly acclaimed and much debated MT90 Redline that many of us have switched over to. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" To: "Richard Gordon" Cc: Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:39 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 > For lubrication these OD transmissions ( in Healey, Sunbeam, Triumph, > Jensen, MG, Austin, Morris, Vauxhall, Volvo and many others) never use > transmission oil like EP80 or 90. Always use engine oil, 20W50 will be > fine, allthough SAE 30 is often specified. The EP oil contains additives > that will destroy certain parts in the OD and also in some instances in > the gearbox, as with e.g. Sunbeam. > Kees Oudesluijs > _______________________________________________ From bighealey at charter.net Sat Nov 14 06:15:07 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:15:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <002b01ca6528$62f87df0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <3D37ABFB8EAE4869AC409DAC3CAAD22D@TRACY> Toyota 5 speed as well. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark LaPierre Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:46 AM To: healeys at Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 And of course there is the highly acclaimed and much debated MT90 Redline that many of us have switched over to. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" To: "Richard Gordon" Cc: Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:39 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 > For lubrication these OD transmissions ( in Healey, Sunbeam, Triumph, > Jensen, MG, Austin, Morris, Vauxhall, Volvo and many others) never use > transmission oil like EP80 or 90. Always use engine oil, 20W50 will be > fine, allthough SAE 30 is often specified. The EP oil contains additives > that will destroy certain parts in the OD and also in some instances in > the gearbox, as with e.g. Sunbeam. > Kees Oudesluijs > _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net http://www.team.net/archive From Awgertoo at aol.com Sat Nov 14 07:22:59 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:22:59 EST Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 Message-ID: People aren't speaking in complete sentences but in any case I use Redline MT-90 in the Toyota Five-Speed transmission installed in my BN1. I have conducted extensive independent scientific experiments and determined conclusively that that shifting is smoother, less "notchy" and generally more positive when using the Redline versus Castrol 30. Plus when using Redline I have a better sense of myself and my place in society. Best--Michael Oritt ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- In a message dated 11/14/2009 8:43:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bighealey at charter.net writes: Toyota 5 speed as well. From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Nov 14 07:56:42 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:56:42 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AFEC52A.3050404@comcast.net> re: "Plus when using Redline I have a better sense of myself and my place in society. " But does it get you the chicks? I think that's a complete sentence. bs Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > People aren't speaking in complete sentences but in any case I use Redline > MT-90 in the Toyota Five-Speed transmission installed in my BN1. I have > conducted extensive independent scientific experiments and determined > conclusively that that shifting is smoother, less "notchy" and generally more > positive when using the Redline versus Castrol 30. > > Plus when using Redline I have a better sense of myself and my place in > society. > > Best--Michael Oritt > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Nov 14 07:57:34 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:57:34 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <002b01ca6528$62f87df0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <4AFE6CDB.5040007@chello.nl> <002b01ca6528$62f87df0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <4AFEC55E.1080507@chello.nl> Redline MT90 can be used but is not easily available, at least not in the NL. There are other similar oils (GL-4), some synthetic others mineral: Quaker state HP or Synquest, Millers EP, Shell Spirax GX, Texaco Multigear MTF and others. Practically all are hard to find and do not add much if anything at all in normal applications to simple 20W50. These oils do not contain S or Cl containing compounds to do damage to brass baulk rings or other Cu containing metal parts. Kees Oudesluijs NL Mark LaPierre schreef: > And of course there is the highly acclaimed and much debated MT90 > Redline that many of us > have switched over to. > > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" > To: "Richard Gordon" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 > > >> For lubrication these OD transmissions ( in Healey, Sunbeam, Triumph, >> Jensen, MG, Austin, Morris, Vauxhall, Volvo and many others) never >> use transmission oil like EP80 or 90. Always use engine oil, 20W50 >> will be fine, allthough SAE 30 is often specified. The EP oil >> contains additives that will destroy certain parts in the OD and also >> in some instances in the gearbox, as with e.g. Sunbeam. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sat Nov 14 09:27:54 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:27:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: CAUTION! CAUTION! Political Correctness will cause failure of mechanic parts! Dp ;>) frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Awgertoo at aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:23 AM To: bighealey at charter.net; lapierrem at sbcglobal.net; healeys at Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 People aren't speaking in complete sentences but in any case I use Redline MT-90 in the Toyota Five-Speed transmission installed in my BN1. I have conducted extensive independent scientific experiments and determined conclusively that that shifting is smoother, less "notchy" and generally more positive when using the Redline versus Castrol 30. Plus when using Redline I have a better sense of myself and my place in society. Best--Michael Oritt ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Awgertoo at aol.com Sat Nov 14 09:38:25 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:38:25 EST Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 Message-ID: In a message dated 11/14/2009 10:14:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, coudesluijs at chello.nl writes: Redline MT90 can be used but is not easily available, -------------------------------------------------------- I buy mine mail-order from JEGS or one of the similar online suppliers. Best--Michael Oritt From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Nov 14 09:58:29 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:58:29 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AFEE1B5.7050403@chello.nl> No JEGS overhere. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs NL Awgertoo at aol.com schreef: > In a message dated 11/14/2009 10:14:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > coudesluijs at chello.nl writes: > > Redline MT90 can be used but is not easily available, > > -------------------------------------------------------- > I buy mine mail-order from JEGS or one of the similar online suppliers. > > Best--Michael Oritt From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Sat Nov 14 11:10:20 2009 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (Mirek Sharp) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:10:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Brass References: <000c01ca63dd$6431d4b0$2c957e10$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: Simon, I have used a light smear of "plumbers grease" when re-assembling these taps. It is the stuff that you get from a plumbing supply shop for rebuilding old style faucets. It seems to last quite a while, but I think a key to them not seizing is to periodically turn them on and off. When I am working on the engine I frequently just give them a twist as part of routine maintenance and the tap on the heater has never seized on me. The one on the bottom of the rad is another story - I don't get to it as often! I think the "handle" part of the tap is actually threaded into the "ball". Perhaps with some heat and coaxing you can get the broken bit out and save re-tapping it. cheers, Mirek 60 BT7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Lachlan" To: "'Healeys'" Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:16 PM Subject: [Healeys] Brass >I have removed the hot water heater tap from the block of my BT7. It had > been jammed in the open position with no handle ever since I've had the > car. > > Any advice would be very welcome. > Thanks, > Simon From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sat Nov 14 16:28:08 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:28:08 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Brass update Message-ID: <000301ca6582$1fe362f0$5faa28d0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Thank you very much to everyone who replied to my question. Very helpful, as ever. I would have replied sooner, but we had a power cut and, to be frank, I thought my hard disk was fried. I've been doing a bit of bringing back from the grave and, latterly, doing the back-up I should have done beforehand. So, I made a new handle, tapped, died (is it dyed? The other seems so final) and loctited. It all looks fine and seems to work. I think the issue is in keeping the touching surfaces very clean, smooth and flush. I didn't need to solder in the end. Or, so I hope. Thanks again. Simon From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sat Nov 14 17:18:34 2009 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve Gerow) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:18:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Heater Tap Handle [was 'Brass'] Message-ID: <00d201ca6589$2b9b3f80$82d1be80$@com> Mirek Sharp wrote: >I think the "handle" part of the tap is actually threaded into the "ball". >Perhaps with some heat and coaxing you can get the broken bit out and save re-tapping it. I took mine apart - it indeed had a small threaded hole - either a 6-32 or 8-32, I forget which. I drilled it out with the appropriate drill and tapped it to 10-32 and made a new handle from part of a long 10-32 stainless socket head screw, cut to the appropriate length. The steel is strong enough to turn without bending. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA, USA BN6 From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sat Nov 14 17:25:27 2009 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve Gerow) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:25:27 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust Hanger replacement Message-ID: <00d701ca658a$21fa6270$65ef2750$@com> Today I on returning from Early Rodders Cruise-In I noticed my exhaust system was nearly on the ground - all the bonded rubber exhaust hangers had separated except the one by the rear axle. The metal plates had come neatly un-bonded from the rubber blocks. The rubber itself is in good condition, but whatever the glue is they use has let go. I'm surprised my Monza exhaust didn't fall on the ground. Checking my records, I bought these new in May 2004. They lasted 5-1/2 years. Does anyone know if there's a superior replacement available for these? A google search didn't turn up anything. If I have to buy Moss replacements, guess I'll drill each for a check-screw so at least my exhaust won't fall off the car on the highway. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA, USA BN6 From jstmorris at yahoo.com Sat Nov 14 18:02:43 2009 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:02:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Tool Source Message-ID: <203240.15320.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Those seeking British tools for toolkits may wish to check out www.thevintagetoolco.com --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com From bighealey at astound.net Sat Nov 14 18:08:14 2009 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:08:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust Hanger replacement References: <00d701ca658a$21fa6270$65ef2750$@com> Message-ID: Erika's exhaust is bolted directly to the dog legs/frame with no rubber dampers and causes on problems. Vrooom vrooom, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Gerow" To: Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:25 PM Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust Hanger replacement > Today I on returning from Early Rodders Cruise-In I noticed my exhaust > system was nearly on the ground - all the bonded rubber exhaust hangers > had > separated except the one by the rear axle. The metal plates had come > neatly > un-bonded from the rubber blocks. The rubber itself is in good condition, > but whatever the glue is they use has let go. I'm surprised my Monza > exhaust > didn't fall on the ground. > > > > Checking my records, I bought these new in May 2004. They lasted 5-1/2 > years. > > > > Does anyone know if there's a superior replacement available for these? A > google search didn't turn up anything. > > > > If I have to buy Moss replacements, guess I'll drill each for a > check-screw > so at least my exhaust won't fall off the car on the highway. > > > > -- > > > > Steve Gerow > > Pasadena, CA, USA > > BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bighealey at astound.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From ynotink at msn.com Sat Nov 14 19:36:12 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:36:12 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <4AFEC55E.1080507@chello.nl> References: , <4AFE6CDB.5040007@chello.nl>, <002b01ca6528$62f87df0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q>, <4AFEC55E.1080507@chello.nl> Message-ID: You can use heavier oils in the overdrive. As a matter of fact Triumph specified 90 weight GL4 in their trannies, and therefore must have considered it safe for their overdrives which up to about 1973 were identical to ours. Because Hypoid, or EP oils contain additives to protect gears which have a slipping or rubbing action, such as hypoid form gears, I was taught that using a Hypoid or EP oil in an assembly that requires friction to function, such as a synchronizer or wet a clutch would cause them to malfunction because the EP additives would eliminate the required friction. Triumph must not have gotten that message because their specification for the TR6 calls for a Hypoid or EP oil and their trannies and ODs seem to function normally. Bill Lawrence > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:57:34 +0100 > From: coudesluijs at chello.nl > To: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > CC: healeys at Autox.Team.Net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 > > Redline MT90 can be used but is not easily available, at least not in > the NL. There are other similar oils (GL-4), some synthetic others > mineral: Quaker state HP or Synquest, Millers EP, Shell Spirax GX, > Texaco Multigear MTF and others. Practically all are hard to find and do > not add much if anything at all in normal applications to simple 20W50. > These oils do not contain S or Cl containing compounds to do damage to > brass baulk rings or other Cu containing metal parts. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Sat Nov 14 20:11:39 2009 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:11:39 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Stuck Float Message-ID: I'm doing a ground up restoration on a 1959 BN7. Have a problem w/ a carb float that is stuck in the down position. This car must have sat for many years. There is evidence of water in many places in the carbs. Can someone suggest how to get this float loose? I am thinking of drilling 2 holes and jamming a needle nose pliers into the holes and trying to twist it loose. John Snyder 1959 BN7 1960 BT7 1961 BN7 MK2 1962 BT7 MK2 From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 14 20:56:28 2009 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:56:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <792047.95581.qm@web83307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> TR6 overdrive is not the same as Austin Healey , oil for all British car trans, is as per the manufacture, see your owners manual .. Norman Nock --- On Sat, 11/14/09, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 To: coudesluijs at chello.nl, lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 6:36 PM You can use heavier oils in the overdrive. As a matter of fact Triumph specified 90 weight GL4 in their trannies, and therefore must have considered it safe for their overdrives which up to about 1973 were identical to ours. Because Hypoid, or EP oils contain additives to protect gears which have a slipping or rubbing action, such as hypoid form gears, I was taught that using a Hypoid or EP oil in an assembly that requires friction to function, such as a synchronizer or wet a clutch would cause them to malfunction because the EP additives would eliminate the required friction. Triumph must not have gotten that message because their specification for the TR6 calls for a Hypoid or EP oil and their trannies and ODs seem to function normally. Bill Lawrence > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:57:34 +0100 > From: coudesluijs at chello.nl > To: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > CC: healeys at Autox.Team.Net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 > > Redline MT90 can be used but is not easily available, at least not in > the NL. There are other similar oils (GL-4), some synthetic others > mineral: Quaker state HP or Synquest, Millers EP, Shell Spirax GX, > Texaco Multigear MTF and others. Practically all are hard to find and do > not add much if anything at all in normal applications to simple 20W50. > These oils do not contain S or Cl containing compounds to do damage to > brass baulk rings or other Cu containing metal parts. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sjnnock at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive From Awgertoo at aol.com Sat Nov 14 21:08:55 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:08:55 EST Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 Message-ID: GL4 oil (whether 90 weight or heavier) is compatible with "yellow metals" such as can be found in Healey (and I'm sure Triumph) transmissions. GL5 oil is compatible with steel gears which can be found in differentials but it is corrosive to yellow metal. Moral: Use GL4 in the transmission and GL5 in the diff. Best--Michael Oritt ---------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/14/2009 9:41:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ynotink at msn.com writes: You can use heavier oils in the overdrive. As a matter of fact Triumph specified 90 weight GL4 in their trannies, and therefore must have considered it safe for their overdrives which up to about 1973 were identical to ours. From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Sat Nov 14 21:30:12 2009 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:30:12 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust Hanger replacement In-Reply-To: <00d701ca658a$21fa6270$65ef2750$@com> References: <00d701ca658a$21fa6270$65ef2750$@com> Message-ID: I have had good luck with the ones supplied by British Car Specialists. I had purchased some from Moss about three years ago and they broke off before I had even completed the restoration of the car. It seemed that their vulcanizing was not up to par. Again that's a while back, they could be better now. Jean Caron > From: steveg at abrazosdata.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:25:27 -0800 > Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust Hanger replacement > > Today I on returning from Early Rodders Cruise-In I noticed my exhaust > system was nearly on the ground - all the bonded rubber exhaust hangers had > separated except the one by the rear axle. The metal plates had come neatly > un-bonded from the rubber blocks. The rubber itself is in good condition, > but whatever the glue is they use has let go. I'm surprised my Monza exhaust > didn't fall on the ground. > > > > Checking my records, I bought these new in May 2004. They lasted 5-1/2 > years. > > > > Does anyone know if there's a superior replacement available for these? A > google search didn't turn up anything. > > > > If I have to buy Moss replacements, guess I'll drill each for a check-screw > so at least my exhaust won't fall off the car on the highway. > > > > -- > > > > Steve Gerow > > Pasadena, CA, USA > > BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Ready. Set. Get a great deal on Windows 7. See fantastic deals on Windows 7 now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691818 From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Nov 15 00:19:29 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:19:29 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust Hanger replacement In-Reply-To: <00d701ca658a$21fa6270$65ef2750$@com> References: <00d701ca658a$21fa6270$65ef2750$@com> Message-ID: Steve - Yeah, it's real hit and miss with those things. The worst part is they are used on just about every british car ever made, I have no clue why someone doesn't make them decently or actually improve them. On my BJ8, with the heavy exhaust system, I just rigged them up with the reinforced universal rubber hangars you can get from Pep Boys / NAPA, etc. They are usually rubber strips with lots of holes in the strips. You can get them to work real well using the existing mounts and a little creativity. Alan On 11/15/09, Steve Gerow wrote: > Today I on returning from Early Rodders Cruise-In I noticed my exhaust > system was nearly on the ground - all the bonded rubber exhaust hangers had > separated except the one by the rear axle. The metal plates had come neatly > un-bonded from the rubber blocks. The rubber itself is in good condition, > but whatever the glue is they use has let go. I'm surprised my Monza exhaust > didn't fall on the ground. > > > > Checking my records, I bought these new in May 2004. They lasted 5-1/2 > years. > > > > Does anyone know if there's a superior replacement available for these? A > google search didn't turn up anything. > > > > If I have to buy Moss replacements, guess I'll drill each for a check-screw > so at least my exhaust won't fall off the car on the highway. > > > > -- > > > > Steve Gerow > > Pasadena, CA, USA > > BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From ynotink at msn.com Sun Nov 15 00:45:30 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:45:30 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <20091114210613.DU5CR.752501.root@ispmxfep14-z01> References: , <20091114210613.DU5CR.752501.root@ispmxfep14-z01> Message-ID: Just as I thought... Bill Lawrence > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:06:13 -0600 > From: tomfelts at windstream.net > To: ynotink at msn.com; healeyrick at yahoo.com; robertduquette at sympatico.ca; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW > > Yes. > > > ---- WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > > ============= > > Metallic or non-metallic...? > Bill Lawrence > > > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:13:44 -0600 > > From: tomfelts at windstream.net > > To: healeyrick at yahoo.com; robertduquette at sympatico.ca; healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW > > > > No worry Rick---I have the correct color HB color on my BJ8!!:) From ynotink at msn.com Sun Nov 15 01:07:16 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:07:16 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <792047.95581.qm@web83307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: , <792047.95581.qm@web83307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've had the Healey 1.28:1 ratio and the TR A-type apart and they appear identical in every way with the exception of the accumulator piston which was full dimension on the TR and sleeved down on the Healey. All materials the same all internal parts the same and the TR ran well on GL4 (per the service manual) as long as I had it. The Bentley manual for the TR6 shows GL4 as the recommended lube. If there was a change near the beginning of production it seems like it would have made it into the manual at some point... Bill Lawrence > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:56:28 -0800 > From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 > > TR6 overdrive is not the same as Austin Healey , oil for all British car trans, is as per the manufacture, see your owners manual .. Norman Nock > > --- On Sat, 11/14/09, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > > From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 > To: coudesluijs at chello.nl, lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 6:36 PM > > You can use heavier oils in the overdrive. As a matter of fact Triumph > specified 90 weight GL4 in their trannies, and therefore must have considered > it safe for their overdrives which up to about 1973 were identical to ours. > Because Hypoid, or EP oils contain additives to protect gears which have a > slipping or rubbing action, such as hypoid form gears, I was taught that using > a Hypoid or EP oil in an assembly that requires friction to function, such as > a synchronizer or wet a clutch would cause them to malfunction because the EP > additives would eliminate the required friction. Triumph must not have gotten > that message because their specification for the TR6 calls for a Hypoid or EP > oil and their trannies and ODs seem to function normally. > Bill Lawrence > > > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:57:34 +0100 > > From: coudesluijs at chello.nl > > To: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > CC: healeys at Autox.Team.Net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 > > > > Redline MT90 can be used but is not easily available, at least not in > > the NL. There are other similar oils (GL-4), some synthetic others > > mineral: Quaker state HP or Synquest, Millers EP, Shell Spirax GX, > > Texaco Multigear MTF and others. Practically all are hard to find and do > > not add much if anything at all in normal applications to simple 20W50. > > These oils do not contain S or Cl containing compounds to do damage to > > brass baulk rings or other Cu containing metal parts. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > NL > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as sjnnock at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Nov 15 01:58:13 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:58:13 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust Hanger replacement In-Reply-To: <00d701ca658a$21fa6270$65ef2750$@com> References: <00d701ca658a$21fa6270$65ef2750$@com> Message-ID: <4AFFC2A5.4050708@chello.nl> Are those rubbers the original construction method? I can hardly believe that as these are really for compression only. Better modify the construction using exhaust straps, rubber/fiber strips with a series of holes to adapt the length, or make some U brackets so that you can use the rubbers being compressed. Kees Oudesluijs NL Steve Gerow schreef: > Today I on returning from Early Rodders Cruise-In I noticed my exhaust > system was nearly on the ground - all the bonded rubber exhaust hangers had > separated except the one by the rear axle. The metal plates had come neatly > un-bonded from the rubber blocks. The rubber itself is in good condition, > but whatever the glue is they use has let go. I'm surprised my Monza exhaust > didn't fall on the ground. > > > > Checking my records, I bought these new in May 2004. They lasted 5-1/2 > years. > > > > Does anyone know if there's a superior replacement available for these? A > google search didn't turn up anything. > > > > If I have to buy Moss replacements, guess I'll drill each for a check-screw > so at least my exhaust won't fall off the car on the highway. > > > > -- > > > > Steve Gerow > > Pasadena, CA, USA > > BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomleavy at comcast.net Sun Nov 15 05:45:16 2009 From: tomleavy at comcast.net (tomleavy at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust Hanger replacement In-Reply-To: <1906401481.4123591258288934117.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1868010127.4124091258289116806.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Hi Steve- If you're really "hung up" on originality, like I was, try this. I got my hands on aircraft grade shouldered countersunk machine screws. Drilled proper size through the hanger steel/rubber. I then installed the screw and a locking nut, leaving a gap between the nut and the hanger. In the event of a failure, the hanger can still separate, but it will not fail completely. No need to use the fine thread aircraft hardware, these are throw aways anyway. The only purpose of the screw/nut is to hold everything in place until the unit is found to be faulty and ultimately replaced. In the interim, whatever the usable life of the hanger is, it retains the stock appearance, albeit modified. Good luck in whatever you choose. Regards, Tom From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Sun Nov 15 05:51:43 2009 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:51:43 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Heater Tap Handle [was 'Brass'] In-Reply-To: <00d201ca6589$2b9b3f80$82d1be80$@com> References: <00d201ca6589$2b9b3f80$82d1be80$@com> Message-ID: <008701ca65f2$6294f260$27bed720$@net> I have done the same. Another thing I do is to put a little fine valve grinding compound on the plunger, put it into the valve assembly and rotate. This will give a very nice smooth surface. Clean and reassemble. Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Gerow Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:19 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Heater Tap Handle [was 'Brass'] Mirek Sharp wrote: >I think the "handle" part of the tap is actually threaded into the "ball". >Perhaps with some heat and coaxing you can get the broken bit out and save re-tapping it. I took mine apart - it indeed had a small threaded hole - either a 6-32 or 8-32, I forget which. I drilled it out with the appropriate drill and tapped it to 10-32 and made a new handle from part of a long 10-32 stainless socket head screw, cut to the appropriate length. The steel is strong enough to turn without bending. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA, USA BN6 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as hgmiller3 at qwest.net http://www.team.net/archive No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2502 - Release Date: 11/14/09 07:43:00 From grday at btinternet.com Sun Nov 15 06:05:37 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:05:37 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust Hanger replacement References: <00d701ca658a$21fa6270$65ef2750$@com> Message-ID: If they have split, clean down with a damp cloth and use Superglue to bond them back together. Boonies repair for the Universal rubber hangers - strips of tyre sidewall. Heavy exhaust - 2 strips. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: "Steve Gerow" ; Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust Hanger replacement > Steve - > > Yeah, it's real hit and miss with those things. The worst part is > they are used on just about every british car ever made, I have no > clue why someone doesn't make them decently or actually improve them. > > On my BJ8, with the heavy exhaust system, I just rigged them up with > the reinforced universal rubber hangars you can get from Pep Boys / > NAPA, etc. They are usually rubber strips with lots of holes in the > strips. You can get them to work real well using the existing mounts > and a little creativity. > > Alan > > On 11/15/09, Steve Gerow wrote: >> Today I on returning from Early Rodders Cruise-In I noticed my exhaust >> system was nearly on the ground - all the bonded rubber exhaust hangers >> had >> separated except the one by the rear axle. The metal plates had come >> neatly >> un-bonded from the rubber blocks. The rubber itself is in good condition, >> but whatever the glue is they use has let go. I'm surprised my Monza >> exhaust >> didn't fall on the ground. >> >> Checking my records, I bought these new in May 2004. They lasted 5-1/2 >> years. >> >> Does anyone know if there's a superior replacement available for these? A >> google search didn't turn up anything. >> >> If I have to buy Moss replacements, guess I'll drill each for a >> check-screw >> so at least my exhaust won't fall off the car on the highway. >> >> Steve Gerow From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sun Nov 15 07:08:17 2009 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:08:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Exhaust_Hangers?= Message-ID: <20091115140817.10161.qmail@hoster902.com> Thanks to all who responded to my question about exhaust hanger replacements. Guy, I like these ideas. Think I'll use 1/2" countersunk flathead sheet metal screws, staggered one from each side. Will take your advice about super glue in the holes. Think I'll get some new ones and do it to those rather than fixing the broken ones. The ones you've superglued - have they lasted that way for years for you? My engineer buddy recommended Gorilla Glue. -- Steve Gerow BN6 > Guy R. Day wrote, > > Use 'Superglue' to bond the two surfaces together but wipe them with a damp > cloth to clean them first. Clamp them together for at least 30secs before > testing and they should last as long as you do!!!! > A slight amount of moisture assists in setting the glue so don't fully dry > things off (but you don't want drops of water). > > If you are going to drill and screw into the rubber only go half way in from > each side and put a squirt of superglue into the drilled rubber to stop the > screw from vibrating and wearing the rubber into fine crumbs round the > thread. > > If one side has gone on each one check the other sides. There must be a > reason for them going in the first place. If you really want them to last > paint the rubber / metal joint with a waterproof coating (varnish?) both > before and after refitting. From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sun Nov 15 07:31:48 2009 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:31:48 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Exhaust_Hanger_replacement?= Message-ID: <20091115143148.30619.qmail@hoster902.com> They're original style - on the roadsters they're used in both tension and shear but not compression. Not sure it would be possible to use the straps without the exhaust hanging down further which is not acceptable. The idea of modifying the original designs by turning them upside down or otherwise supporting them to put them in compression is intriguing - I may work on that angle. I can see how that would put a lot less strain on the glued joints. -- Steve Gerow BN6 Oudesluys wrote: > > Are those rubbers the original construction method? I can hardly believe > that as these are really for compression only. Better modify the > construction using exhaust straps, rubber/fiber strips with a series of > holes to adapt the length, or make some U brackets so that you can use > the rubbers being compressed. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Nov 15 07:41:03 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:41:03 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust Hanger replacement In-Reply-To: <20091115143148.30619.qmail@hoster902.com> References: <20091115143148.30619.qmail@hoster902.com> Message-ID: Steve - I used the straps specifically because I could get the exhaust as high as possible. I have my exhaust on the BJ8 hanging only about 1/4" below the frame in all places. I used a floor jack to position the exhaust then tightened up the straps. Great set up. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Steve B. Gerow wrote: > They're original style - on the roadsters they're used in both tension and > shear but not compression. > > Not sure it would be possible to use the straps without the exhaust hanging > down further which is not acceptable. > > The idea of modifying the original designs by turning them upside down or > otherwise supporting them to put them in compression is intriguing - I may > work on that angle. I can see how that would put a lot less strain on the > glued joints. > -- > Steve Gerow > BN6 > > > Oudesluys wrote: > > > > Are those rubbers the original construction method? I can hardly believe > > that as these are really for compression only. Better modify the > > construction using exhaust straps, rubber/fiber strips with a series of > > holes to adapt the length, or make some U brackets so that you can use > > the rubbers being compressed. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > NL From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sun Nov 15 07:51:26 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:51:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: References: , <792047.95581.qm@web83307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B00156E.1050504@earthlink.net> Anyone know which overdrive units Triumph used in 1954? There's a service information sheet dated Oct 1954 for VANGUARD and SPORTS (page 98 at http://www.dctra.org/Files/Service_Manuals/1954bul.pdf). It states: It has been our practice to permit the use of Hypoid Oils in our gearboxes as an alternative to a normal Mineral Oil for hot operating conditions. An instance of overdrive failure, when employing hypoid oil, has been brought to our notice and the overdrive manufacturers have stated that this type of oil is not suitable for use with these units. The Recommended Lubricants  Overseas chart in our Instruction Books and Service Manual gives the alternative of either Hypoid or normal Mineral oils for gearboxes operating in the over 10 degree Fahrenheit and over 70 degree Fahrenheit ranges. This recommendation is not applicable where overdrive units are fitted and your garage personnel, and customers where necessary, should be advised of the fact. From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sun Nov 15 08:24:58 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:24:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <4B00156E.1050504@earthlink.net> References: , <792047.95581.qm@web83307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B00156E.1050504@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <313C41D1330A4BD5B3D4F7945AC280B1@oscar> I think the point many are missing is that the oils that were specified by the factories and may be superseded with "modern" substitutes is that they are of a non detergent formulation. This formulation allows contaminants to settle out and not be continually re-circulated, thus hastening damage. Dave PS It may only be anecdotal information, but Triumph quickly backed off using 90wt in the gearboxes because of too many failures and costs to warrant repairs. If memory serves it was during the Spitfire/TR7 era.. frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Haskell Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:51 AM Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 Anyone know which overdrive units Triumph used in 1954? There's a service information sheet dated Oct 1954 for VANGUARD and SPORTS (page 98 at http://www.dctra.org/Files/Service_Manuals/1954bul.pdf). It states: It has been our practice to permit the use of Hypoid Oils in our gearboxes as an alternative to a normal Mineral Oil for hot operating conditions. An instance of overdrive failure, when employing hypoid oil, has been brought to our notice and the overdrive manufacturers have stated that this type of oil is not suitable for use with these units. The Recommended Lubricants  Overseas chart in our Instruction Books and Service Manual gives the alternative of either Hypoid or normal Mineral oils for gearboxes operating in the over 10 degree Fahrenheit and over 70 degree Fahrenheit ranges. This recommendation is not applicable where overdrive units are fitted and your garage personnel, and customers where necessary, should be advised of the fact. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From don at anglesey.us Sun Nov 15 10:14:28 2009 From: don at anglesey.us (Don) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:14:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Stuck Float In-Reply-To: Message-ID: PB Blaster, Kroil or soak in carb cleaner. Let it soak and it will come loose all on its own. Don 57' BN4 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Snyder Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:12 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Stuck Float I'm doing a ground up restoration on a 1959 BN7. Have a problem w/ a carb float that is stuck in the down position. This car must have sat for many years. There is evidence of water in many places in the carbs. Can someone suggest how to get this float loose? I am thinking of drilling 2 holes and jamming a needle nose pliers into the holes and trying to twist it loose. John Snyder 1959 BN7 1960 BT7 1961 BN7 MK2 1962 BT7 MK2 From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Nov 15 10:21:52 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:21:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <313C41D1330A4BD5B3D4F7945AC280B1@oscar> References: , <792047.95581.qm@web83307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B00156E.1050504@earthlink.net> <313C41D1330A4BD5B3D4F7945AC280B1@oscar> Message-ID: <4B0038B0.3000005@comcast.net> Uh oh ... here comes another 'oils' thread ;) re: "... non detergent formulation. This formulation allows contaminants to settle out and not be continually re-circulated, thus hastening damage..." Though I defer to Dave's knowledge and experience, this 'theory' never made sense to me, mostly because a properly cleaned and assembled gearbox and O/D should not have any contaminants. They are pretty much sealed and won't suffer any combustion byproducts or other contamination. When I've changed my gearbox and O/D oil, there was always a minuscule amount of brass 'shake' suspended in the oil which sparkled prettily in the sunlight. I guessed this was an amount of brass about the size of a B-B that had been ground into infinitesimally small particles. When rubbing the 'shakey' oil between my fingers I could feel absolutely no grit whatsoever--it felt just like virgin oil. There was usually a very small amount of ferrous metal on the magnets in the O/D strainer, even with ashless dispersant-- aka 'detergent' oil, so the heavier stuff was settling out anyway. Given that brass is a relatively soft metal, and most high-quality greases are oil thickened with finely-ground metals--molybdenum, lithium, etc.--I believe the finely ground brass causes no harm at all and may, conceivably, be a lubricant and/or protectant in its own right. I feel the only reason to even change the oil is because the oil molecules will be sheared over time and may lose some viscosity; though the fact that modern differentials call for never even changing the oil may belie that belief. I have over 165K miles on my gearbox and O/D with one rebuild on the gearbox only and they both operate quite well. bs ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sun Nov 15 10:39:45 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:39:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <4B0038B0.3000005@comcast.net> References: , <792047.95581.qm@web83307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B00156E.1050504@earthlink.net> <313C41D1330A4BD5B3D4F7945AC280B1@oscar> <4B0038B0.3000005@comcast.net> Message-ID: <82F6D2A9378744A8BA78438ADA74B495@oscar> Before I defer to the Factory recommendations let me just say that if you were correct in the residues acting as a lubricant, then there would not be evidence of galling at the operating and accumulator piston bores. All those crunches into 1st and reverse end up comingling, as do the brass bits from the thrust washers/spacers on the laygear and O/D mainshaft. The designers foresaw this and specified non detergent to separate solids from liquids. Seems logical to me.. just saying... Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Bob Spidell [mailto:bspidell at comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:22 AM To: Dave Porter Cc: 'Bob Haskell'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 Uh oh ... here comes another 'oils' thread ;) re: "... non detergent formulation. This formulation allows contaminants to settle out and not be continually re-circulated, thus hastening damage..." Though I defer to Dave's knowledge and experience, this 'theory' never made sense to me, mostly because a properly cleaned and assembled gearbox and O/D should not have any contaminants. They are pretty much sealed and won't suffer any combustion byproducts or other contamination. When I've changed my gearbox and O/D oil, there was always a minuscule amount of brass 'shake' suspended in the oil which sparkled prettily in the sunlight. I guessed this was an amount of brass about the size of a B-B that had been ground into infinitesimally small particles. When rubbing the 'shakey' oil between my fingers I could feel absolutely no grit whatsoever--it felt just like virgin oil. There was usually a very small amount of ferrous metal on the magnets in the O/D strainer, even with ashless dispersant-- aka 'detergent' oil, so the heavier stuff was settling out anyway. Given that brass is a relatively soft metal, and most high-quality greases are oil thickened with finely-ground metals--molybdenum, lithium, etc.--I believe the finely ground brass causes no harm at all and may, conceivably, be a lubricant and/or protectant in its own right. I feel the only reason to even change the oil is because the oil molecules will be sheared over time and may lose some viscosity; though the fact that modern differentials call for never even changing the oil may belie that belief. I have over 165K miles on my gearbox and O/D with one rebuild on the gearbox only and they both operate quite well. bs ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From ynotink at msn.com Sun Nov 15 11:53:50 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:53:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <4B00156E.1050504@earthlink.net> References: , , <792047.95581.qm@web83307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, , <4B00156E.1050504@earthlink.net> Message-ID: That is interesting. I'll bet the earliest TR overdrives in the 1954 period were A-Types, which were much the same as all of the Healey overdrives. That is pretty much as I suspected. The problem doesn't seem to be viscosity, but the EP additives. Actually I think it may be the same with the later J Types, which had many similar components too. Since this was such an early bulletin it appears that the aftermarket manuals, and probably most of the dealer staff didn't pick up on it. As I stated, my Bentley (Sorry, did I say Brooklands before?) "The Complete Official Triumph TR6 & TR250 1967-1976" still has two lube charts specifying Hypoid, EP, HP, SP (basically different manufacturer's names for Hypoid oil). It sure seems like they would have had time to catch up. I wonder how many Triumph overdrives went to their graves damned as worthless crap just because of that oversight. Then again, they were only Triumphs... Bill Lawrence > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:51:26 -0500 > From: rchaskell at earthlink.net > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 > > Anyone know which overdrive units Triumph used in 1954? There's a > service information sheet dated Oct 1954 for VANGUARD and SPORTS (page > 98 at http://www.dctra.org/Files/Service_Manuals/1954bul.pdf). It states: > > It has been our practice to permit the use of Hypoid Oils in our > gearboxes as an alternative to a normal Mineral Oil for hot operating > conditions. > > An instance of overdrive failure, when employing hypoid oil, has been > brought to our notice and the overdrive manufacturers have stated that > this type of oil is not suitable for use with these units. > > The Recommended Lubricants  Overseas chart in our Instruction > Books and Service Manual gives the alternative of either Hypoid or > normal Mineral oils for gearboxes operating in the over 10 degree > Fahrenheit and over 70 degree Fahrenheit ranges. This recommendation > is not applicable where overdrive units are fitted and your garage > personnel, and customers where necessary, should be advised of the fact. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Nov 15 12:54:25 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:54:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <82F6D2A9378744A8BA78438ADA74B495@oscar> References: , <792047.95581.qm@web83307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B00156E.1050504@earthlink.net> <313C41D1330A4BD5B3D4F7945AC280B1@oscar> <4B0038B0.3000005@comcast.net> <82F6D2A9378744A8BA78438ADA74B495@oscar> Message-ID: <4B005C71.2040402@comcast.net> Fair enough; however, I refuse to believe any but the heaviest particles settle immediately to the bottom--non-detergent oil or not--while a gearbox is operating. I can imagine the oil being furiously stirred and slung at high speeds--I doubt a steel marble would settle while running but, sure, while the car is sitting heavier crud will settle. Plenty of damage could be done before any particles get a chance to settle; detergent oil or not. Like I said, the heavier ferrous particles end up on the screen or magnets. AFAIK, ashless dispersant (detergent) oils were formulated to clean out or suspend light combustion byproducts; i.e. carbon, etc. ('ashes'). I doubt it'll keep heavy particulates in suspension any better than non-detergent. Any tribologists on the List that can address this issue? This site is interesting (can't vouch for its veracity): http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm#How%20Sludge%20is%20Prevented bs Dave Porter wrote: > Before I defer to the Factory recommendations let me just say that if you > were correct in the residues acting as a lubricant, then there would not be > evidence of galling at the operating and accumulator piston bores. > All those crunches into 1st and reverse end up comingling, as do the brass > bits from the thrust washers/spacers on the laygear and O/D mainshaft. The > designers foresaw this and specified non detergent to separate solids from > liquids. > Seems logical to me.. just saying... > Dave > > > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Nov 15 13:50:04 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:50:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 Message-ID: <4b00694c.9713f30a.424c.520b@mx.google.com> So I put 20/50 castrol gtx in my gearbox with overdrive is this ok? If not how do I flush it? Is it detergent or not sent from my cellular PDA I Erbs -----Original Message----- From: Dave Porter Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:24 AM To: 'Bob Haskell' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 I think the point many are missing is that the oils that were specified by the factories and may be superseded with "modern" substitutes is that they are of a non detergent formulation. This formulation allows contaminants to settle out and not be continually re-circulated, thus hastening damage. Dave PS It may only be anecdotal information, but Triumph quickly backed off using 90wt in the gearboxes because of too many failures and costs to warrant repairs. If memory serves it was during the Spitfire/TR7 era.. frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Haskell Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:51 AM Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 Anyone know which overdrive units Triumph used in 1954? There's a service information sheet dated Oct 1954 for VANGUARD and SPORTS (page 98 at http://www.dctra.org/Files/Service_Manuals/1954bul.pdf). It states: It has been our practice to permit the use of Hypoid Oils in our gearboxes as an alternative to a normal Mineral Oil for hot operating conditions. An instance of overdrive failure, when employing hypoid oil, has been brought to our notice and the overdrive manufacturers have stated that this type of oil is not suitable for use with these units. The Recommended Lubricants  Overseas chart in our Instruction Books and Service Manual gives the alternative of either Hypoid or normal Mineral oils for gearboxes operating in the over 10 degree Fahrenheit and over 70 degree Fahrenheit ranges. This recommendation is not applicable where overdrive units are fitted and your garage personnel, and customers where necessary, should be advised of the fact. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive From willig at wtnet.de Sun Nov 15 14:28:22 2009 From: willig at wtnet.de (Thomas + Britta Willig) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:28:22 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 track rods Message-ID: <000d01ca663a$8f2eb660$ad8c2320$@de> Hello, can anybody tell me how long the steering side rods for the 100 (from center of bolt to center of bolt) should be? Thanks in advance Thomas Willig From glemon at neb.rr.com Sun Nov 15 14:44:39 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:44:39 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <4b00694c.9713f30a.424c.520b@mx.google.com> References: <4b00694c.9713f30a.424c.520b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <15603ACA52B940058C7AEFCDF43DB760@GregPC> I havs posted this before, but since we are going through this again, a nice discussion of the various types of fluid that can be used in a laycock O/D http://www.quantumechanics.com/categories.php?op=newindex&catid=11 End result, the recommendation is to use 30 weight non-detergent. Greg Lemon From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Nov 15 15:19:31 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:19:31 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <4b00694c.9713f30a.424c.520b@mx.google.com> References: <4b00694c.9713f30a.424c.520b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4B007E73.3010506@chello.nl> That would be fine. It is the usual oil specified for several gearboxes with or without OD. I ran my Sunbeam gearbox in the JH on 20W50 (specified) for over 250.000kms and it is still perfect. 20W50 will contain detergents as any engine oil. Detergents work mainly on combustion products and byproducts from overheated engine oil in the engine to prevent them from forming sludge and hard deposits which will eventually block oil passages. In a gearbox they are not effective as there are no combustion gasses, so no sludge and hard deposits will form. That is why a gearbox is always nice and clean inside and the oil always looks clean. Nowadays oil changes for gearboxes are often not called for and many cars even have not got any drainplug anymore. More or less sealed for life. Checking the oil level is also not specified anymore in servicing unless there are traces of oil indicating a leak. As there is no oil filter I do change the transmission oil once in a while on all my cars, say around 50.000mls, modern or not, depending on milage to get rid of the metal wear particles. Neccesary? I don't know. I do it just for peace of mind The metal particles will float around just as well as with SAE30. A magnetic drainplug is a usefull accessoire to keep the steel particles trapped. The viscosity will be less temperature sensitive though using 20W50. Kees Oudesluijs NL I Erbs schreef: > So I put 20/50 castrol gtx in my gearbox with overdrive is this ok? If not > how do I flush it? Is it detergent or not > > sent from my cellular PDA > I Erbs From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Sun Nov 15 15:54:30 2009 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:54:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] No Healey Content Bugatti Veyron Message-ID: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/11/12/video-low-flying-pelican-ends-up-creating-bugatti-veyron-hydro/ No matter what, when 'Mater puts it on the hook, they are all the same. Bob Johnson BJ8 From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Sun Nov 15 16:14:17 2009 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:14:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <4B007E73.3010506@chello.nl> References: <4b00694c.9713f30a.424c.520b@mx.google.com> <4B007E73.3010506@chello.nl> Message-ID: Just to stir the pot, 90 wt gear oil has essentially the same viscosity as 30 wt motor oil. 20w-50 flows like 20 wt when cold and 50 wt when warm. 30 wt does whatever it does at whatever temp,i.e. less dense when cold and "beaks down" more when hot than 20w 50. I stick by the idea or what does your manual say? Bob Johnson BJ8 From Awgertoo at aol.com Sun Nov 15 17:48:45 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:48:45 EST Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 Message-ID: Again, the viscosity of the oil is one issue, and its compatibility with the metal is another. GL 4 transmission oil is compatible with yellow metals. GL5 diff (gear) oil is not. Both factors need to be correct. Best--Michael Oritt ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- In a message dated 11/15/2009 6:40:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bjsbj8 at gmail.com writes: Just to stir the pot, 90 wt gear oil has essentially the same viscosity as 30 wt motor oil. From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Sun Nov 15 19:56:18 2009 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:56:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Thank You - stuck float Message-ID: I just want to say Thank You to all those who responded to my question about the carb float stuck at the bottom of the float chamber. I soaked it in gas for hours, and then it came loose. I have never seen carbs as screwed up as these. Water, rust everywhere. I will bead blast and go from there. John Snyder From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 16 02:05:55 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:05:55 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: References: <4b00694c.9713f30a.424c.520b@mx.google.com> <4B007E73.3010506@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4B0115F3.1060208@chello.nl> The idea of stick to what your manual says makes reasonable sense, although one must not forget that these recommendations are from the 50's and 60's of the previous century. A lot has happened since in the devellopment of lubricants and there are often far better alternatives available now. Problem is that they have not always been tested in our applications. Kees Oudesluijs NL Bob Johnson schreef: > Just to stir the pot, 90 wt gear oil has essentially the same > viscosity as 30 wt motor oil. 20w-50 flows like 20 wt when cold and 50 > wt when warm. 30 wt does whatever it does at whatever temp,i.e. less > dense when cold and "beaks down" more when hot than 20w 50. I stick by > the idea or what does your manual say? > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 From austin.healey at gmail.com Mon Nov 16 03:31:59 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:31:59 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <4B0115F3.1060208@chello.nl> References: <4b00694c.9713f30a.424c.520b@mx.google.com> <4B007E73.3010506@chello.nl> <4B0115F3.1060208@chello.nl> Message-ID: <541215E5-0C86-4EA5-B480-A0DC070DE2A6@gmail.com> Sorry if my recent posts have been a little obscure. Emailing from my phone is a function of not having Internet at home at the moment... Anyway 1. oil discussion from years ago, we discussed this. My history and research is at http://www.myaustinhealey.com/austin_healey_technical_articles.html A. Ep 90 additives destroy brass. Don't get confused by time - a Bn1 gearbox /= (doesn't equal) a BJ8. B. Things change in 50 yrs. So is everyone who cites a 50 year old gearbox oil reference driving on a full set of 50 year old crossply construction tyres?? If not, why not? Or are you relying on a principle, which improves over time, but only applies to rubber?? Or what? Ok - talk to us.... C. Companies sign strategic marketing agreements. Irrespective of the issues in the long term - it's about ongoing revenue. http://www.myaustinhealey.com/austin_healey_technical_articles.html So did BMC write the best lubricants in the owners manual.,, .... Or the "sponsored" lubes which paid more? Paid also equals sponsorship. Castrol? Maybe? NFIlube? WTFl??? All i learnt is that Money makes the world go round. Not necessarily your wheels.. 2. Ivory v white??? A whole different discussion. And it's not about reality. It's more about Because most "white" cars just aren't "ivory white" They are a "stark" white. P.S If you want to argue with me, please be aware I gave up smoking about 16 hours ago. So you know what? Just tell me you think my car isn't the right colour for Ivory. It's only been painted this way for 11 years, and colour was matched from under the bj8 chrome strips on the bj8 doors. Top of doors. Not engine bay Hope you guys are all happy. Sincerely. Chris Nite all. On 16/11/2009, at 8:05 PM, Oudesluys wrote: > The idea of stick to what your manual says make reasonable sense, > although one must not forget that these recommendations are from the > 50's and 60's of the previous century. A lot has happened since in > the devellopment of lubricants and there are often far better > alternatives available now. Problem is that they have not always > been tested in our applications. > Kees Oudesluijs > > Bob Johnson schreef: >> Just to stir the pot, 90 wt gear oil has essentially the same >> viscosity as 30 wt motor oil. 20w-50 flows like 20 wt when cold and >> 50 >> wt when warm. 30 wt does whatever it does at whatever temp,i.e. less >> dense when cold and "beaks down" more when hot than 20w 50. From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 16 05:19:15 2009 From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:19:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 Message-ID: <976050.2412.qm@web24001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Looks like someone has done some trials on different oils http://mgtoronto.com/pdf/Tech/Overdrive_oil.pdf They don't say though what spec the 90 weight oil was. I have run 90 weight GL4 in my BN2 A type O/D for 4 years and my Triumph Dolomite Sprint J type O/D for 18 years with no obvious problems. In fact my BN2 had automatic transmission fluid in it for a short time and it would drop out of O/D when hot. Mike Brooks From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 16 06:20:43 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:20:43 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <976050.2412.qm@web24001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <976050.2412.qm@web24001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B0151AB.2000607@chello.nl> GL-4 90 has a comparable viscosity to SAE 30 and it does not have Cl or S containing compounds as opposed to EP 90. So you did not and should not have had any problems. Kees Oudesluijs NL mike brooks schreef: > Looks like someone has done some trials on different oils > http://mgtoronto.com/pdf/Tech/Overdrive_oil.pdf > > They don't say though what > spec the 90 weight oil was. I have run 90 weight GL4 in my BN2 A type O/D for > 4 years and my Triumph Dolomite Sprint J type O/D for 18 years with no obvious > problems. In fact my BN2 had automatic transmission fluid in it for a short > time and it would drop out of O/D when hot. > > Mike Brooks > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 16 06:51:29 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:51:29 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <541215E5-0C86-4EA5-B480-A0DC070DE2A6@gmail.com> References: <4b00694c.9713f30a.424c.520b@mx.google.com> <4B007E73.3010506@chello.nl> <4B0115F3.1060208@chello.nl> <541215E5-0C86-4EA5-B480-A0DC070DE2A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B0158E1.8010803@comcast.net> Hi Chris, Please elaborate on this (looks like there's a sentence missing): 2. Ivory v white??? A whole different discussion. And it's not about reality. It's more about Because most "white" cars just aren't "ivory white" They are a "stark" white. bs ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 16 09:04:36 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:04:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: <002b01ca6528$62f87df0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <4AFE6CDB.5040007@chello.nl> <002b01ca6528$62f87df0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: The Red Line MT90 is only correct if your transmission unit requires a 90 wt gear oil. The correct oil for most British transmissions with overdrive should be the Red Line MTL. This is a 75/80 wt gear oil and is the same viscosity as a 30 wt engine oil. The change from 30wt to 90wt usually is in the gear box and if there is a syncro on first gear. In most cases If the transmission had a syncro on first gear the manufacturer requires a 90wt gear oil. If there isnt a syncron on first gear the transmission requires a 30wt gear oil. We have been using the Red Line MTL in almost all transmissions for several years and have nothing but great success with it. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 14, 2009, at 4:45 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > And of course there is the highly acclaimed and much debated MT90 > Redline that many of us > have switched over to. > > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" > To: "Richard Gordon" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 > > >> For lubrication these OD transmissions ( in Healey, Sunbeam, >> Triumph, Jensen, MG, Austin, Morris, Vauxhall, Volvo and many >> others) never use transmission oil like EP80 or 90. Always use >> engine oil, 20W50 will be fine, allthough SAE 30 is often >> specified. The EP oil contains additives that will destroy certain >> parts in the OD and also in some instances in the gearbox, as with >> e.g. Sunbeam. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From Healey100M at gmail.com Mon Nov 16 09:52:57 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:52:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: References: <4AFE6CDB.5040007@chello.nl> <002b01ca6528$62f87df0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <9891EF1D-6154-48CF-9F77-05CAFF0913CF@gmail.com> Seems to me that you are mixing apples and oranges here. MTL is an 70/80 wt gear oil with the same viscosity as 5/30 wt. engine oil MT90 is a 75/90 wt. gear oil with the same viscosity of 15/40 wt. engine oil, so the change isn't from 30 wt to 90 wt. Review the specs on Redlines site. MT90 - http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=46&pcid=7 MTL - http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=45&pcid=7 I use MTL in the BJ8 and have found the MT90 works better in the 100's. 100's just leak the MTL out too much! :-) Randy Randy Hicks '56 100M '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:04 AM, David Nock wrote: > The Red Line MT90 is only correct if your transmission unit requires > a 90 wt gear oil. The correct oil for most British transmissions with > overdrive should be the Red Line MTL. This is a 75/80 wt gear oil and > is the same viscosity as a 30 wt engine oil. > > The change from 30wt to 90wt usually is in the gear box and if there > is a syncro on first gear. In most cases If the transmission had a > syncro on first gear the manufacturer requires a 90wt gear oil. If > there isnt a syncron on first gear the transmission requires a 30wt > gear oil. > > We have been using the Red Line MTL in almost all transmissions for > several years and have nothing but great success with it. > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Mon Nov 16 12:04:09 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:04:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Stuck float- blasting Message-ID: Just a quick tip. When you blast (sand, glass, etc.) the carb bodies make sure you take the pistons out of the dash pots. Blasting material can get in there and when you force them out it will scratch the dash pot inners. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID2472 7::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Mon Nov 16 12:13:55 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:13:55 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Color Library Message-ID: <1DE5AE40C7E44D7B97CE6225B731ABD1@tm> Here is DuPont Color Library for vintage cars" http://pc.dupont.com/hcl/?locale=en_US tadek From Awgertoo at aol.com Mon Nov 16 12:33:28 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:33:28 EST Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 Message-ID: Again I am in 100% agreement with Randy. I have tried both the MTL and MT 90 in both my 100 and the Elva Courier (MGA transmission) and like the way the 90 feels. The shifting seems to be just a bit more positive and since I race the Elva I figure that heavier viscosity is a good thing to deal with higher transmission oil temps. And using Castrol in any grade many shifts were noisy and balky. Best--Michael Oritt -------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/16/2009 12:02:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Healey100M at gmail.com writes: Seems to me that you are mixing apples and oranges here. MTL is an 70/80 wt gear oil with the same viscosity as 5/30 wt. engine oil MT90 is a 75/90 wt. gear oil with the same viscosity of 15/40 wt. engine oil, so the change isn't from 30 wt to 90 wt. I use MTL in the BJ8 and have found the MT90 works better in the 100's. 100's just leak the MTL out too much! :-) From mandmschneider at comcast.net Mon Nov 16 14:52:12 2009 From: mandmschneider at comcast.net (Mark Schneider) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:52:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Su Fuel Pump Message-ID: Lister, I want to rebuild an older SU fuel pump, positive ground, points type, from my BJ8. The pump was a Moss replacement for the original back in @1980. For what's it worth, the only identification numbers I can find on the pump are on an SU sticker label. The numbers are SU 940 and AZX 1318. On page 35 of the current Moss catalogue both a Condenser (line item 31) and a Diode (line item 31a) are listed as part numbers 377-110 and 377-135, respective. Am I correct in assuming the electrical part I will want to replace is the positive ground diode, line item 31a. ? In addition I plan to replace the points. Marks3 '66 BJ8 From scvc70 at epix.net Mon Nov 16 15:01:47 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:01:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 carb questions Message-ID: <3220FDBE21094F6E828E6D900A9C17E5@computer624080> We're finally back on work on my BN1. Since it's about a 2-hour drive to look at the closest other one that we know of, I hope the list can come through again with the following: The carbs that were on my car when I bought it were (according to Jim Taylor, when I sent them to him for rebuild) a mixture of Healey, MG, and something else that I can't remember right now. The air cleaners and an as-yet-unknown number of other things were missing. The Moss ("Manifolds - 100-4") and Workshop Manual drawings show two brackets that appear to fasten at one end to the studs sticking up from the "ears" on the intake manifold--and at the other end to _____????? I've gone through all my photos of other cars and can't find anything that shows this detail. Also, I assume that the choke-cable bracket fastens to the back of the carb flanges (DPO had it fastened to the front--no air cleaners, remember)--correct? As usual, TIA for your help! Sarah Carr BN1 in PA From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 16 15:15:14 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Su Fuel Pump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1286821900.3285641258409714938.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Mark, If it has a diode just test it and if it's still good reuse it. If it has a condenser (capacitor) or nothing, I'd get the diode. You might want to replace the diaphragm while you're at it. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Lister, I want to rebuild an older SU fuel pump, positive ground, points type, from my BJ8. The pump was a Moss replacement for the original back in @1980. For what's it worth, the only identification numbers I can find on the pump are on an SU sticker label. The numbers are SU 940 and AZX 1318. On page 35 of the current Moss catalogue both a Condenser (line item 31) and a Diode (line item 31a) are listed as part numbers 377-110 and 377-135, respective. Am I correct in assuming the electrical part I will want to replace is the positive ground diode, line item 31a. ? In addition I plan to replace the points. Marks3 '66 BJ8 From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Mon Nov 16 18:52:58 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:52:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Color Library In-Reply-To: <1DE5AE40C7E44D7B97CE6225B731ABD1@tm> References: <1DE5AE40C7E44D7B97CE6225B731ABD1@tm> Message-ID: Thanks, the DuPont matches the WT.3. Rich Kahn > From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:13:55 +0100 > Subject: [Healeys] Color Library > > Here is DuPont Color Library for vintage cars" > http://pc.dupont.com/hcl/?locale=en_US > > tadek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From 57healey at gmail.com Mon Nov 16 19:32:53 2009 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:32:53 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song Message-ID: <743b1e2f0911161832h6ba36f66oa01d68f801c44d01@mail.gmail.com> You may remember I found a song called Austin-Healey by the band Scout a while back. I just found another Healey song, check out the Album art and song #9 at the link below http://www.lala.com/#album/2810527642993302132 Patton -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From sales at justbrits.com Mon Nov 16 20:42:34 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:42:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0911161832h6ba36f66oa01d68f801c44d01@mail.gmail.com> References: <743b1e2f0911161832h6ba36f66oa01d68f801c44d01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B021BAA.70509@justbrits.com> <> And the car is a Roadster, Patten !!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Nov 16 20:44:42 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:44:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 carb questions References: <3220FDBE21094F6E828E6D900A9C17E5@computer624080> Message-ID: <60D4004225CC410BAF19ED692113936B@LIFEBOOK> Sarah, Other ends of bracing straps to fit under brass centre bolt on float chamber lids. Choke anchor strap to fasten under bolt heads for air cleaners on engine side of mounting flange. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carr&Edwards" To: "Healey List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:01 PM Subject: [Healeys] BN1 carb questions > We're finally back on work on my BN1. Since it's about a 2-hour drive to > look > at the closest other one that we know of, I hope the list can come through > again with the following: > > The carbs that were on my car when I bought it were (according to Jim > Taylor, > when I sent them to him for rebuild) a mixture of Healey, MG, and > something > else that I can't remember right now. The air cleaners and an > as-yet-unknown > number of other things were missing. The Moss ("Manifolds - 100-4") and > Workshop Manual drawings show two brackets that appear to fasten at one > end to > the studs sticking up from the "ears" on the intake manifold--and at the > other > end to _____????? I've gone through all my photos of other cars and can't > find anything that shows this detail. > > Also, I assume that the choke-cable bracket fastens to the back of the > carb > flanges (DPO had it fastened to the front--no air cleaners, > remember)--correct? > > As usual, TIA for your help! > Sarah Carr > BN1 in PA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of richardgordon02.jpg] From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Mon Nov 16 21:42:26 2009 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:42:26 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song References: <743b1e2f0911161832h6ba36f66oa01d68f801c44d01@mail.gmail.com> <4B021BAA.70509@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <016501ca6740$5d6098e0$8d01a8c0@home> And it is now posted on my Facebook site! Bruce Steele 1960 BN7 Brea, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sales at " Just Brits "" To: "Healey List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song > <> > > And the car is a Roadster, Patten !!! > > Ed > Please visit MY site at: > www.justbrits.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeybruce at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Nov 17 06:34:50 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:34:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] shims Message-ID: <28C0AE52B59741F395722389E7DC3308@oscar> I have need of the bearing shims and "plates" which are located at either end of the gearbox main and input shafts. I'll probably have to make my own from shim stock but could use some measurements as a starting point. The parts book does not give gauge. Anyone have a set laying about they could mic? It's a side shift BN4. Thanks guys, dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Tue Nov 17 08:08:06 2009 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:08:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Blowing out brake/clutch lines Message-ID: <4B02BC56.8010808@wowway.com> After following the recent discussion regarding silicone fluid I've decided to drain the silicone fluid from the brake /clutch system and replace it with fresh silicone fluid. It's been in there for two years and I'm trying to avoid any corrosion in the system due to any water that may have found it's way in there due to humidity in the air. Question- How do I blow out the lines and brake and clutch master cylinders? I'd like to keep the disconnecting to a minimum. Is there a certain sequence? Thanks, Dan White 1962 BN7 Mk II From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 09:06:16 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:06:16 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Blowing out brake/clutch lines In-Reply-To: <4B02BC56.8010808@wowway.com> References: <4B02BC56.8010808@wowway.com> Message-ID: <173126440911170806v1afdccc5s87296dbabdb3c3d6@mail.gmail.com> I would fit another cap on the reservoir with an air nipple, then use a pump or compressor to pressurize the system. Open all valves. BTW great way to bleed the system after refill. Open valves one at a time form farthest away, right rear wheel, Be sure to refill with fluid before it all blows out on the refill side of the equation. I On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Daniel and Diane White < dwhite4949 at wowway.com> wrote: > After following the recent discussion regarding silicone fluid I've decided > to drain the silicone fluid from the brake /clutch system and replace it > with fresh silicone fluid. It's been in there for two years and I'm trying > to avoid any corrosion in the system due to any water that may have found > it's way in there due to humidity in the air. Question- How do I blow out > the lines and brake and clutch master cylinders? I'd like to keep the > disconnecting to a minimum. Is there a certain sequence? Thanks, > Dan White > 1962 BN7 Mk II > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Tue Nov 17 10:45:03 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:45:03 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Leaking radiator Message-ID: <000301ca67ad$b411f7c0$1c35e740$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> I'm busy attending to little tasks at the front of my MkII BT7 while the front grille surround is away being fixed up. So....I've had a periodic and puzzling leak from my radiator for some time. Just a little now and then. Not from the overflow tube. I put the radiator on the bench today and looked closely at it. 1) The bolt/cap that is only visible when the radiator is out had signs of slight leakage. I undid it and found that the washer inside (rubber/cork amalgam of some fifties ****) had disintegrated so I made a new, covered the thread with PTFE tape and tightened it up. (This bolt/cap is on the bottom surface of the top tank on the side that bulges out over the finned cooling section....if you see what I mean!) 2) The drain tap at the bottom was the main culprit. It seems that the spring had rusted and collapsed so that the tap could work (a tiny bit)loose. I've taken the tap apart and will hopefully be able to replace the spring with a section of a spring from my "grotty old springs which will be useful one day collection". So, if you have a periodic radiator leak that baffles most of the collective wisdom and past advice, it might - just - be one of the two failings, above. Simon From bluehealey at googlemail.com Tue Nov 17 11:05:23 2009 From: bluehealey at googlemail.com (Alan Bromfield) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:05:23 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Leaking radiator In-Reply-To: <832324500740344775@unknownmsgid> References: <832324500740344775@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <40e0020d0911171005u47f1099bo4581c2cbefc22d84@mail.gmail.com> The plug you have found under the top tank is a legacy fitting from the days when the capillary temperature sender used to be installed there. Later cars moved the sender to the cylinder head. A much more sensible location. Imagine - low water in the rad would result in a COLD reading at the temp gauge. Not exactly intuitive is it? The tap in the bottom tank has always seemed a bit crazy to me adding unnecessary complication. My recommendation is to replace it with a brass plug and fibre (or soft copper) washer. 2009/11/17 Simon Lachlan > I'm busy attending to little tasks at the front of my MkII BT7 while the > front grille surround is away being fixed up. > > So....I've had a periodic and puzzling leak from my radiator for some time. > Just a little now and then. Not from the overflow tube. I put the radiator > on the bench today and looked closely at it. > 1) The bolt/cap that is only visible when the radiator is out had signs of > slight leakage. I undid it and found that the washer inside (rubber/cork > amalgam of some fifties ****) had disintegrated so I made a new, covered > the > thread with PTFE tape and tightened it up. (This bolt/cap is on the bottom > surface of the top tank on the side that bulges out over the finned cooling > section....if you see what I mean!) > 2) The drain tap at the bottom was the main culprit. It seems that the > spring had rusted and collapsed so that the tap could work (a tiny > bit)loose. I've taken the tap apart and will hopefully be able to replace > the spring with a section of a spring from my "grotty old springs which > will > be useful one day collection". > > So, if you have a periodic radiator leak that baffles most of the > collective > wisdom and past advice, it might - just - be one of the two failings, > above. > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bluehealey at googlemail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- __________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) (______ \____1957-BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) From gbrierton at hotmail.com Tue Nov 17 12:20:39 2009 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (gary brierton) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:20:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: News From Denis Welch Motorsport Message-ID: News From Denis Welch Motorsport From: sales at bighealey.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:10 PM To: gbrierton at hotmail.com Subject: News From Denis Welch Motorsport International 1000 Km record attempt looks hopeful November 15th 2009 Millbrook, England Sunday 15th November 2009 saw the 'Healey Endurance' car built by Denis Welch Motorsport attempt the International and National speed record up to 1000 Km (International Group 2 Class 8 non supercharged). The car successfully completed 308 laps at record breaking speed, averaging 148.22 mph. The ambition was to beat the non-supercharged 4 cylinder records set by the Healey works team in 1954 at 132.81 mph and the current National records held by Prodrive. So mission accomplished so far. It is now subject to FIA & MSA homologation as to whether the 6 International and 9 National records under consideration are confirmed. The car had a trouble free run with 3 scheduled pit stops and was driven by owner Martyn Corfield and Engineer Jeremy Welch in 4 stints of one hour each. A further pit stop was made after Martyn was spun across the track at 150 mph due to the damp surface from that morning and previous day's torrential rain and howling gales. After such a mind numbing moment he was still able to gather the car, losing little time and after a safety check carry on unabated to the next scheduled stop. " We have made a great attempt at the 1000 km endurance record this weekend and subject to confirmation are happy that the car has performed brilliantly achieving near the theoretical maximum calculated by MIRA in 2009 which is better than we could ever have hoped for. It's definitely the fastest Austin Healey in the World today at 153.44 mph, according to the stopwatch and is now the subject to FIA & MSA homologation to see whether the official International and National records have been achieved. We are looking forward to releasing more news shortly" commented Jeremy Welch. Keep up to date on progress at www.healeyendurance.com Photographs courtesy of Crucial Image www.crucialimage.org.uk Denis Welch Motorsport Sudbury Road, Yoxall, Burton on Trent, Staffs DE13 8NA TEL +44(0)1543 472214 FAX +44(0)1543 472339 PARTS HOTLINE +44(0)1543 472244 SEE MORE DETAILS ON THE WEB www.bighealey.co.uk ALSO AT www.healeyendurance.com We will only send emails with our very special offers If you do not wish to receive any more emails just click on the link below and type unsubscribe in the subject box. E-Mail: sales at bighealey.co.uk [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of news f1.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of endurancelogo.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of banking front2 288 KS_593.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of banking rear2 204 KS.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of pit crew2 433 KS_675.jpg] From martin_93555 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 17 12:57:06 2009 From: martin_93555 at yahoo.com (Martin's) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:57:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] BJ-8 Trunk Latch Message-ID: <732222.31745.qm@web84005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The trunk latch on my BJ-8 is unlocked and just spins so that it can't be opened. Up till now it worked fine so something inside must have broken. Has anyone else encountered this problem? I want to know how we can either remove the latch or the trunk lid. Thanks, Kathy From jcapezzuti at aol.com Tue Nov 17 13:25:23 2009 From: jcapezzuti at aol.com (jcapezzuti at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:25:23 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dumb Question - Dimensions Needed for MKII BJ7 Message-ID: <8CC35DB39724F26-1C98-2034@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> Sorry for the dumb question.......... Does anyone know the dimensions for a MKII BJ7? Length / Width / Height???? I can't get to my car at the moment.... Thanks for your help! Thanks, Jeff '63 BJ7 From scvc70 at epix.net Tue Nov 17 13:41:40 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:41:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] carb heat shield Message-ID: <1B4F9087F5694DC596970E96224A268A@computer624080> Does anyone on the list remember a post giving directions for making an improved (larger) heat shield for the BN1/BN2??? I remember instructions to put the pattern on a copier and enlarge it until dimension A - B measured X --- but apparently I didn't save the email, and I've searched the archives using every combination of terms I can think of, and I haven't been able to find it. (And thanks again to all those who sent me photos off-list of the carb support brackets; they're truly better than words!) TIA, Sarah Carr BN1 in PA From insptwo at msn.com Tue Nov 17 13:49:22 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:49:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0911161832h6ba36f66oa01d68f801c44d01@mail.gmail.com> References: <743b1e2f0911161832h6ba36f66oa01d68f801c44d01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Who ever wrote that must have had experience with our "Marque" specially the "4 forward and 2 overdrive. Love it! Bill BJ7 > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:32:53 -0600 > From: 57healey at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song > > You may remember I found a song called Austin-Healey by the band Scout > a while back. I just found another Healey song, check out the Album > art and song #9 at the link below > > http://www.lala.com/#album/2810527642993302132 > > Patton > > -- > Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX > 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as insptwo at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From bluehealey at googlemail.com Tue Nov 17 14:04:40 2009 From: bluehealey at googlemail.com (Alan Bromfield) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:04:40 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Bonnet/Hood Latch position Message-ID: <40e0020d0911171304nc4d122ap9caf478b10875c6@mail.gmail.com> Team. I have done my penance and searched the archive for a post that featured not so long ago. As usual I came up empty and therefore seek your guidance. The bonnet latching mechanism is mounted on a bracket held with two screws to the front panel at the top of the cross-brace. During the chassis restoration of my BN4 the top panel was replaced and it doesn't have the holes or captive nuts in place to fix the bracket to. Can someone advise (remind me) how far down the screw holes should be? Many thanks -- __________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) (______ \____1957-BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) From gbrierton at hotmail.com Tue Nov 17 14:19:42 2009 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (gary brierton) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:19:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song In-Reply-To: References: <743b1e2f0911161832h6ba36f66oa01d68f801c44d01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah...but as a lyricist, his phrasing is not so good. Oh well, the harmonica riff was great. GaryB -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:49 PM To: <57healey at gmail.com>; "healey help" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song > Who ever wrote that must have had experience with our "Marque" specially > the > "4 forward and 2 overdrive. Love it! > > Bill > > BJ7 > >> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:32:53 -0600 >> From: 57healey at gmail.com >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song >> >> You may remember I found a song called Austin-Healey by the band Scout >> a while back. I just found another Healey song, check out the Album >> art and song #9 at the link below >> >> http://www.lala.com/#album/2810527642993302132 >> >> Patton >> >> -- >> Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX >> 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as insptwo at msn.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as gbrierton at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Tue Nov 17 14:23:44 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:23:44 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Bonnet/Hood Latch position In-Reply-To: <40e0020d0911171304nc4d122ap9caf478b10875c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <40e0020d0911171304nc4d122ap9caf478b10875c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601ca67cc$3e5fb750$bb1f25f0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Hard to get a tape or whatever in there, but mine are, on average, 3/4in from the top of the bit of metal into which they are drilled. On average? Now that I look very closely, mine aren't exactly level! Take a number of measurements from the group and make your own average? Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Bromfield Sent: 17 November 2009 21:05 To: Healey Mail List Subject: [Healeys] Bonnet/Hood Latch position Team. I have done my penance and searched the archive for a post that featured not so long ago. As usual I came up empty and therefore seek your guidance. The bonnet latching mechanism is mounted on a bracket held with two screws to the front panel at the top of the cross-brace. During the chassis restoration of my BN4 the top panel was replaced and it doesn't have the holes or captive nuts in place to fix the bracket to. Can someone advise (remind me) how far down the screw holes should be? Many thanks From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Nov 17 14:36:46 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:36:46 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song In-Reply-To: References: <743b1e2f0911161832h6ba36f66oa01d68f801c44d01@mail.gmail.com>, Message-ID: When I click play, I get a message that someday they'll make it available internationally. :( Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > From: insptwo at msn.com > To: 57healey at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:49:22 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song > > Who ever wrote that must have had experience with our "Marque" specially the > "4 forward and 2 overdrive. Love it! > > Bill > > BJ7 > > > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:32:53 -0600 > > From: 57healey at gmail.com > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song > > > > You may remember I found a song called Austin-Healey by the band Scout > > a while back. I just found another Healey song, check out the Album > > art and song #9 at the link below > > > > http://www.lala.com/#album/2810527642993302132 > > > > Patton > > > > -- > > Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX > > 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as insptwo at msn.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive From 57healey at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 14:51:22 2009 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:51:22 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song In-Reply-To: References: <743b1e2f0911161832h6ba36f66oa01d68f801c44d01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0911171351r581d825fg4ba91a49a7fdebdb@mail.gmail.com> But not enough experience to spell it right. On 11/17/09, insptwo at msn.com wrote: > Who ever wrote that must have had experience with our "Marque" specially the > "4 forward and 2 overdrive. Love it! > > Bill > > BJ7 > >> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:32:53 -0600 >> From: 57healey at gmail.com >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song >> >> You may remember I found a song called Austin-Healey by the band Scout >> a while back. I just found another Healey song, check out the Album >> art and song #9 at the link below >> >> http://www.lala.com/#album/2810527642993302132 >> >> Patton >> >> -- >> Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX >> 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as insptwo at msn.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as 57healey at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Tue Nov 17 15:03:14 2009 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:03:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Bonnet/Hood Latch position References: <40e0020d0911171304nc4d122ap9caf478b10875c6@mail.gmail.com> <000601ca67cc$3e5fb750$bb1f25f0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <72C49FC647814B43A75135E736FA1A5C@FRED> I have the front shroud off my 1959 BN7, easy to measure, and the holes are 3/4", and level. John Snyder > Hard to get a tape or whatever in there, but mine are, on average, 3/4in > from the top of the bit of metal into which they are drilled. On average? > Now that I look very closely, mine aren't exactly level! > Take a number of measurements from the group and make your own average? > Simon > > > Team. > I have done my penance and searched the archive for a post that featured > not > so long ago. As usual I came up empty and therefore seek your guidance. > The > bonnet latching mechanism is mounted on a bracket held with two screws to > the front panel at the top of the cross-brace. During the chassis > restoration of my BN4 the top panel was replaced and it doesn't have the > holes or captive nuts in place to fix the bracket to. Can someone advise > (remind me) how far down the screw holes should be? > > Many thanks From 57healey at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 15:12:16 2009 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:12:16 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song In-Reply-To: References: <743b1e2f0911161832h6ba36f66oa01d68f801c44d01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0911171412q51b50fc9r3ac6f73daaee7a58@mail.gmail.com> Try amazon, its on there, it just costs a dime more if you want to buy it. I guess music is not covered by NAFTA On 11/17/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > When I click play, I get a message that someday they'll make it available > internationally. :( > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > > > > > >> From: insptwo at msn.com >> To: 57healey at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net >> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:49:22 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song >> >> Who ever wrote that must have had experience with our "Marque" specially > the >> "4 forward and 2 overdrive. Love it! >> >> Bill >> >> BJ7 >> >> > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:32:53 -0600 >> > From: 57healey at gmail.com >> > To: healeys at autox.team.net >> > Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healy (sic) Song >> > >> > You may remember I found a song called Austin-Healey by the band Scout >> > a while back. I just found another Healey song, check out the Album >> > art and song #9 at the link below >> > >> > http://www.lala.com/#album/2810527642993302132 >> > >> > Patton >> > >> > -- >> > Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX >> > 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> > >> > You are subscribed as insptwo at msn.com >> > >> > http://www.team.net/archive >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as 57healey at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From pennell at cox.net Tue Nov 17 16:05:22 2009 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:05:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ-8 Trunk Latch In-Reply-To: <732222.31745.qm@web84005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20091117180522.IMXOX.1009845.imail@eastrmwml46> Kathy, Not quite sure what you mean that the latch just turns. But as for removing the latch I don't have any idea how it can be done from the outside. It sounds like you will have to take some more severe measures. One choice is to drive the pins out of the hinges. This would need be done with care so as not to damage paint and do minimal harm to the hinges. Second would be to drill out the lock on the latch itself. That should free up the handle to turn the latch inside. BTW I do have hinges and latch if you need them. Keith Pennell ---- Martin's wrote: > The trunk latch on my BJ-8 is unlocked and just spins so that it can't be opened. Up till now it worked fine so something inside must have broken. Has anyone else encountered this problem? I want to know how we can either remove the latch or the trunk lid. > Thanks, Kathy From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 17 16:21:34 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:21:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ-8 Trunk Latch In-Reply-To: <732222.31745.qm@web84005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <732222.31745.qm@web84005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Try going back behind the rear seat and then you can remove the two nuts that hold the top of the hinges. Remove those nuts and then you can lift up the top of the trunk lid and possible remove it. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 17, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Martin's wrote: > The trunk latch on my BJ-8 is unlocked and just spins so that it > can't be opened. Up till now it worked fine so something inside > must have broken. Has anyone else encountered this problem? I > want to know how we can either remove the latch or the trunk lid. > Thanks, Kathy > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From RAWDAWGS at aol.com Tue Nov 17 19:14:06 2009 From: RAWDAWGS at aol.com (RAWDAWGS at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:14:06 EST Subject: [Healeys] Pertronix question Message-ID: I have rebuilt the engine on my Longbridge BN4(thank you, Richard Mayor) Tonite I turned the engine over and have good oil pressure and flow. I would really like to to start the beast. I figured that I should go ahead and switch to modern ignition, starter and fuel pump . I am thinking I will start the car with the generator, but because I am planning to eventually go to an alternator, I ordered a negative ground pertronics. My thinking is I can just change out my fuel pump and polarize the generator and get her started. My understanding of the process is that you switch battery cables and turn on the ignition and quickly short the A and F connections on the voltage regulator. Sounds like magic. Is it really that easy? How do I know if it "took"? I have a negative ground pertronics how should I hook it up to the coil? Anyway I can fry the Pertronics? Blow up my garage? Thanks, Scott From bighealey at astound.net Tue Nov 17 19:33:33 2009 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:33:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Pertronix question References: Message-ID: <8C73A705606D4967838C79A38469D514@Soderling> Don't connect up the negative-ground Pertronix until you have actually make the change to negative ground. Vroom vrooom, John ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:14 PM Subject: [Healeys] Pertronix question >I have rebuilt the engine on my Longbridge BN4(thank you, Richard Mayor) > Tonite I turned the engine over and have good oil pressure and flow. I > would > really like to to start the beast. I figured that I should go ahead and > switch to modern ignition, starter and fuel pump . I am thinking I will > start > the car with the generator, but because I am planning to eventually go > to an alternator, I ordered a negative ground pertronics. My thinking is > I > can just change out my fuel pump and polarize the generator and get her > started. My understanding of the process is that you switch battery > cables and > turn on the ignition and quickly short the A and F connections on the > voltage regulator. Sounds like magic. Is it really that easy? How do I > know if > it "took"? I have a negative ground pertronics how should I hook it up to > the coil? Anyway I can fry the Pertronics? Blow up my garage? Thanks, > Scott > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bighealey at astound.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From sales at justbrits.com Tue Nov 17 20:52:02 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:52:02 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Pertronix question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B036F62.5060201@justbrits.com> ZERO Petronics, Scott !! UNTIL change to - grd. << I would really like to to start the beast >> From your note, you make no mention of gas tank or battery. If you do NOT have the ability to let motor for 15 -20 mts to bed in cam & lifters; DON'T DO IT !! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 20:58:57 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:58:57 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] carb heat shield In-Reply-To: <1B4F9087F5694DC596970E96224A268A@computer624080> References: <1B4F9087F5694DC596970E96224A268A@computer624080> Message-ID: Hi Sarah - For what it is worth, I think a much better solution is to have your manifold Jet-Hot Coated with their Extreme Sterling product. I operate my A90 Atlantic (same motor as your BN1) in Hong Kong in VERY hot temperatures and traffic, and that coating made a huge difference in under bonnet temp and stopping float chamber boiling. Best thing is it looks great, looks more or less original, and makes it easy to access everything compared to having a shield there. Have a look at what it looks like on my A90: http://picasaweb.google.com/Healey.Nut/1952AustinA90AtlanticSportsSaloon#5186413418446009474 http://picasaweb.google.com/Healey.Nut/1952AustinA90AtlanticSportsSaloon#5186413414151042162 The turn around is about 10 days from Jet Hot. Highly recommended. Incidentally, a shield will reduce radiant temps on your carbs (which is good) but it will not reduce under-bonnet temp. Only Jet Hot will reduce total under-bonnet temp (it sends the heat out the tail pipe). No financial interest... etc... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Carr&Edwards wrote: > Does anyone on the list remember a post giving directions for making an > improved (larger) heat shield for the BN1/BN2??? > > I remember instructions to put the pattern on a copier and enlarge it until > dimension A - B measured X --- but apparently I didn't save the email, and > I've searched the archives using every combination of terms I can think of, > and I haven't been able to find it. > > (And thanks again to all those who sent me photos off-list of the carb > support > brackets; they're truly better than words!) > > > TIA, > Sarah Carr > BN1 in PA From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 21:01:53 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:01:53 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Pertronix question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Scott - If you weren't putting in Pertronix you could get away with that procedure, but with Pertronix you also must make sure the coil leads are reversed (double check them against the Pertronix diagram) otherwise you'll blow out your Pertronix unit. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM, wrote: > I have rebuilt the engine on my Longbridge BN4(thank you, Richard Mayor) > Tonite I turned the engine over and have good oil pressure and flow. I > would > really like to to start the beast. I figured that I should go ahead and > switch to modern ignition, starter and fuel pump . I am thinking I will > start > the car with the generator, but because I am planning to eventually go > to an alternator, I ordered a negative ground pertronics. My thinking is I > can just change out my fuel pump and polarize the generator and get her > started. My understanding of the process is that you switch battery cables > and > turn on the ignition and quickly short the A and F connections on the > voltage regulator. Sounds like magic. Is it really that easy? How do I > know if > it "took"? I have a negative ground pertronics how should I hook it up to > the coil? Anyway I can fry the Pertronics? Blow up my garage? Thanks, > Scott From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Nov 17 21:16:35 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:16:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Pertronix question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They DO have positive ground Pertronix units. Let's not confuse the masses with statements like: No Pertronix until changed to neg ground! My Bugeye is Positive ground with a rebuilt Advanced Distributors unit that Jeff installed the Pertronix unit during the rebuild for me. Also using a solid state voltage regulator. Works better at directing electricity using a generator. It will make the generator last longer. Email bobj50 at camcast.net for further info. Here is the article by Bob Jeffers on converting your voltage regulator: *http://tinyurl.com/yb8m6ws* I also have converted the box for the BN2. No financial interest, just a very satisfied customer. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Scott - > > If you weren't putting in Pertronix you could get away with that procedure, > but with Pertronix you also must make sure the coil leads are reversed > (double check them against the Pertronix diagram) otherwise you'll blow out > your Pertronix unit. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM, wrote: > > > I have rebuilt the engine on my Longbridge BN4(thank you, Richard Mayor) > > Tonite I turned the engine over and have good oil pressure and flow. I > > would > > really like to to start the beast. I figured that I should go ahead and > > switch to modern ignition, starter and fuel pump . I am thinking I will > > start > > the car with the generator, but because I am planning to eventually go > > to an alternator, I ordered a negative ground pertronics. My thinking is > I > > can just change out my fuel pump and polarize the generator and get her > > started. My understanding of the process is that you switch battery > cables > > and > > turn on the ignition and quickly short the A and F connections on the > > voltage regulator. Sounds like magic. Is it really that easy? How do I > > know if > > it "took"? I have a negative ground pertronics how should I hook it up > to > > the coil? Anyway I can fry the Pertronics? Blow up my garage? Thanks, > > Scott > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Nov 18 06:37:14 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 7:37:14 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Pertronix question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091118073714.K92AN.886623.root@ispmxfep11-z02> My positive ground BJ8 has been using Pertronix for 8 or 9 years. ---- "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" wrote: ============= They DO have positive ground Pertronix units. Let's not confuse the masses with statements like: No Pertronix until changed to neg ground! My Bugeye is Positive ground with a rebuilt Advanced Distributors unit that Jeff installed the Pertronix unit during the rebuild for me. Also using a solid state voltage regulator. Works better at directing electricity using a generator. It will make the generator last longer. Email bobj50 at camcast.net for further info. Here is the article by Bob Jeffers on converting your voltage regulator: *http://tinyurl.com/yb8m6ws* I also have converted the box for the BN2. No financial interest, just a very satisfied customer. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Scott - > > If you weren't putting in Pertronix you could get away with that procedure, > but with Pertronix you also must make sure the coil leads are reversed > (double check them against the Pertronix diagram) otherwise you'll blow out > your Pertronix unit. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM, wrote: > > > I have rebuilt the engine on my Longbridge BN4(thank you, Richard Mayor) > > Tonite I turned the engine over and have good oil pressure and flow. I > > would > > really like to to start the beast. I figured that I should go ahead and > > switch to modern ignition, starter and fuel pump . I am thinking I will > > start > > the car with the generator, but because I am planning to eventually go > > to an alternator, I ordered a negative ground pertronics. My thinking is > I > > can just change out my fuel pump and polarize the generator and get her > > started. My understanding of the process is that you switch battery > cables > > and > > turn on the ignition and quickly short the A and F connections on the > > voltage regulator. Sounds like magic. Is it really that easy? How do I > > know if > > it "took"? I have a negative ground pertronics how should I hook it up > to > > the coil? Anyway I can fry the Pertronics? Blow up my garage? Thanks, > > Scott > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Nov 18 07:02:01 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:02:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey web site Message-ID: <03cf01ca6857$b3c3fd90$1b4bf8b0$@net> I have added a manual titled "Tuning Lucas Ignition Systems" to the Bulletins page. Also there is now a "Lucas Fault Diagnosis Service Manual" on the same page. This is a different edition than the one that Andy Pole has on his site so using the two, maybe it will be helpful. Also, added on the Literature page are photos of the famous birthday card showing a Healey, a photo of a gift bag showing a Healey in what I consider to be the best colors (look at my home page), a brochure showing the available accessories such as luggage racks, etc. and on the Bulletin page newly discovered bulletins which list the approved optional competition parts and performance tuning for competition. Enjoy! John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Nov 18 07:09:09 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:09:09 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Healey web site In-Reply-To: <03cf01ca6857$b3c3fd90$1b4bf8b0$@net> References: <03cf01ca6857$b3c3fd90$1b4bf8b0$@net> Message-ID: <99B875C6A25243B686B1A1BD453162D1@GregPC> Thanks again to John for all he does and I would also add that I have a copy and have used the "Lucas Fault Diagnosis Service Manual" to track down a couple of head scratchers in the past and it has been very helpful, even if your knowledge of electronics is about like mine "wires hooked up right it should work" Greg Lemon From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed Nov 18 07:14:42 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:14:42 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Heater color Message-ID: Hello, Please correct me if I am wrong - the heater front cover should be painted black texture color, right? Best, Tadek From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed Nov 18 07:14:42 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:14:42 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Lucas horn paint info Message-ID: <94C5AC2B0CAB4C718C2A179F2951C803@tm> Hello, I matched the Lucas paint from the back of the horn membrane (never opened I believe) from my '56 BN2 at DuPont. The came up with the following color as best match: FIAT 702A, alt 1 They said it was much closer than the Volvo color. Best, Tadek From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Nov 18 07:16:19 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:16:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Healey web site In-Reply-To: <03cf01ca6857$b3c3fd90$1b4bf8b0$@net> Message-ID: <874279.98396.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> John, I hope you added your moving pad shroud protector article from this month's Healey Marque. It is an excellent how-to for a low cost answer to protecting the fenders while working under the hood. Big tip o' the driving cap! Rick --- On Wed, 11/18/09, John Sims wrote: From: John Sims Subject: [Healeys] Healey web site To: "Healey List" Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 9:02 AM I have added a manual titled "Tuning Lucas Ignition Systems" to the Bulletins page. Also there is now a "Lucas Fault Diagnosis Service Manual" on the same page. This is a different edition than the one that Andy Pole has on his site so using the two, maybe it will be helpful. Also, added on the Literature page are photos of the famous birthday card showing a Healey, a photo of a gift bag showing a Healey in what I consider to be the best colors (look at my home page), a brochure showing the available accessories such as luggage racks, etc. and on the Bulletin page newly discovered bulletins which list the approved optional competition parts and performance tuning for competition. Enjoy! John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From alexmm at roadrunner.com Wed Nov 18 07:20:50 2009 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:20:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Pertronix question Message-ID: <012F27E8BB454438B4FBD7DC5F3FC378@atc0f226cd3237> Does anyone have a schematic circuit diagram of this solid-state regulator? == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" > To: "Alan Seigrist" > Cc: ; > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Pertronix question > > >> They DO have positive ground Pertronix units. Let's not confuse the >> masses >> with statements like: No Pertronix until changed to neg ground! My >> Bugeye >> is Positive ground with a rebuilt Advanced Distributors unit that Jeff >> installed the Pertronix unit during the rebuild for me. Also using a >> solid >> state voltage regulator. Works better at directing electricity using a >> generator. It will make the generator last longer. Email >> bobj50 at camcast.net for further info. Here is the article by Bob Jeffers >> on >> converting your voltage regulator: *http://tinyurl.com/yb8m6ws* >> I also have converted the box for the BN2. No financial interest, just a >> very satisfied customer. >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Nov 18 07:28:47 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:28:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey web site In-Reply-To: <874279.98396.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <03cf01ca6857$b3c3fd90$1b4bf8b0$@net> <874279.98396.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03d301ca685b$70fe0a10$52fa1e30$@net> Yep. It has been in the Miscellaneous section of the Technical page for a while. John From: HealeyRick [mailto:healeyrick at yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:16 AM To: Healey List; John Sims Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey web site John, I hope you added your moving pad shroud protector article from this month's Healey Marque. It is an excellent how-to for a low cost answer to protecting the fenders while working under the hood. Big tip o' the driving cap! Rick From pyoas at yahoo.com Wed Nov 18 08:10:02 2009 From: pyoas at yahoo.com (Patrick Yoas) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:10:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Trunk Latch problem Message-ID: <194079.81839.qm@web112517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > The trunk latch on my BJ-8 is unlocked and just spins so that it > can't be opened. Up till now it worked fine so something inside > must have broken. Has anyone else encountered this problem? I > want to know how we can either remove the latch or the trunk lid. > Thanks, Kathy Kathy, Another way would be to press out the pins on the trunk hinges. These pins have to be removed in order to install the bolts for a factor style luggage rack so it is something doable. Patrick From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 08:51:04 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:51:04 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Heater color In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes. Black krinkle coating, like lots of metal things in the 1950s... Probably some old East German Cameras used the same type of coating... On 11/18/09, Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > Hello, > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong - the heater front cover should be painted > black texture color, right? > > > > Best, Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From mgcharlie at comcast.net Wed Nov 18 09:01:53 2009 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:01:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Regulator conversion In-Reply-To: <012F27E8BB454438B4FBD7DC5F3FC378@atc0f226cd3237> References: <012F27E8BB454438B4FBD7DC5F3FC378@atc0f226cd3237> Message-ID: <4B041A71.1020001@comcast.net> Alex, Bob Jeffers has come up with this design as a service to the British car collecting fraternity and to make some money from his work. Somehow it seems wrong to pass around a schematic of his design so others can make copies. If you want a converted regulator, send yours to him and pay the $85 that he charges. Charlie Alex wrote: > Does anyone have a schematic circuit diagram of this solid-state regulator? > > == Alex in Maine > "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 > Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, > 1965 MG Midget > http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" >> To: "Alan Seigrist" >> Cc: ; >> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Pertronix question >> >> >> >>> They DO have positive ground Pertronix units. Let's not confuse the >>> masses >>> with statements like: No Pertronix until changed to neg ground! My >>> Bugeye >>> is Positive ground with a rebuilt Advanced Distributors unit that Jeff >>> installed the Pertronix unit during the rebuild for me. Also using a >>> solid >>> state voltage regulator. Works better at directing electricity using a >>> generator. It will make the generator last longer. Email >>> bobj50 at camcast.net for further info. Here is the article by Bob Jeffers >>> on >>> converting your voltage regulator: *http://tinyurl.com/yb8m6ws* >>> I also have converted the box for the BN2. No financial interest, just a >>> very satisfied customer. >>> Mike MacLean >>> 60 Sprite >>> 56 BN2 >>> > > > [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried > to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed Nov 18 09:16:53 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:16:53 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Heater color In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <78D64A5E32954D1894A4603E16A8084D@tm> Kind of like on the Jaguar e-type V12 valve covers?.. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:51 PM To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN2 Heater color Yes. Black krinkle coating, like lots of metal things in the 1950s... Probably some old East German Cameras used the same type of coating... On 11/18/09, Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > Hello, > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong - the heater front cover should be painted > black texture color, right? > > > > Best, Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From alexmm at roadrunner.com Wed Nov 18 10:10:37 2009 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:10:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Regulator conversion References: <012F27E8BB454438B4FBD7DC5F3FC378@atc0f226cd3237> <4B041A71.1020001@comcast.net> Message-ID: Yup, I can see your point, Charlie. It's just that I'm an inveterate electroniker, and am always interested in homebrewing electronics circuits (which you can see on my Web pages). That's why I asked. In the world of ham radio and electronics a lot of designs are published and shared. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Baldwin" To: "Alex" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Regulator conversion > Alex, > Bob Jeffers has come up with this design as a service to the British car > collecting fraternity and to make some money from his work. Somehow it > seems wrong to pass around a schematic of his design so others can make > copies. If you want a converted regulator, send yours to him and pay > the $85 that he charges. > Charlie [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Wed Nov 18 11:11:32 2009 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:11:32 EST Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Return to Bonneville Videos Message-ID: Here's the links to two little videos I shot for the Healeys Return to Bonneville team. I am in the process of putting together a documentary on the whole event, I have close to twenty hours of source video, but thought I would put these out there just to give you a little preview of what went on. As I say at the end of the descriptions of the videos, more to follow ... Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48qLtN78VGE&feature=channel_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48qLtN78VGE&feature=channel) and ... _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuO0bePk68c&feature=channel_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuO0bePk68c&feature=channel) enjoy ... From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Nov 18 11:11:15 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:11:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Front Parking Lamp Boots BJ8 Message-ID: <5F3D811E757B4EE7A48814D312CF4DA6@LIFEBOOK> Where can I find the rubber parking lamp boots and wire sleeve protection tubes for Phase 2 BJ8 front parking lamps. The back side of these assemblies are totally exposed being right in front of the front wheels. Originals are shot and I need to find replacements. Nobody seems to list the full covering boot that encloses the full assembly including ground sleeve. Rich Chrysler From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Nov 18 11:31:48 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:31:48 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Front Parking Lamp Boots BJ8 In-Reply-To: <5F3D811E757B4EE7A48814D312CF4DA6@LIFEBOOK> References: <5F3D811E757B4EE7A48814D312CF4DA6@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <4B043D94.9030402@chello.nl> Search on ebay.co.uk using the Lucas number or part name. Kees Oudesluijs NL Rich C schreef: > Where can I find the rubber parking lamp boots and wire sleeve protection > tubes for Phase 2 BJ8 front parking lamps. The back side of these assemblies > are totally exposed being right in front of the front wheels. Originals are > shot and I need to find replacements. Nobody seems to list the full covering > boot that encloses the full assembly including ground sleeve. > > Rich Chrysler > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Nov 18 12:35:11 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:35:11 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Front Parking Lamp Boots BJ8 In-Reply-To: <5F3D811E757B4EE7A48814D312CF4DA6@LIFEBOOK> References: <5F3D811E757B4EE7A48814D312CF4DA6@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <4B044C6F.5020105@chello.nl> Rich, An example, I do not know if these are the correct ones, but others can be found. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lucas-488-Lamp-Rubbers-X-2_W0QQitemZ350278837738QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item518e3ee5ea Kees Oudesluijs Rich C schreef: > Where can I find the rubber parking lamp boots and wire sleeve protection > tubes for Phase 2 BJ8 front parking lamps. The back side of these assemblies > are totally exposed being right in front of the front wheels. Originals are > shot and I need to find replacements. Nobody seems to list the full covering > boot that encloses the full assembly including ground sleeve. > > Rich Chrysler From westonkeyes at hotmail.com Wed Nov 18 12:44:53 2009 From: westonkeyes at hotmail.com (Weston Keyes) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:44:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Odometer reset mechanism BJ8 Message-ID: Hello Folks, I am piecing together a speedometer from parts. Coming out of the case is a pin with a hole in it. What goes on the end of the pin? What ever it is, is used to reset the odometer. Would someone describe what goes there? Many thanks. Wes Keyes York, Maine From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Wed Nov 18 12:56:15 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:56:15 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Odometer reset mechanism BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3BD8C7F@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Wes, There should be a round cylindrical knob slided on the pin, fixed with a small pin through the hole of the pin. Josef eckert Konigswinter, GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Weston Keyes Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. November 2009 20:45 An: Ahealey Ahealey Betreff: [Healeys] Odometer reset mechanism BJ8 Hello Folks, I am piecing together a speedometer from parts. Coming out of the case is a pin with a hole in it. What goes on the end of the pin? What ever it is, is used to reset the odometer. Would someone describe what goes there? Many thanks. Wes Keyes York, Maine ________________ From bj7ah at acanac.net Wed Nov 18 13:27:41 2009 From: bj7ah at acanac.net (Heal;ey) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:27:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Regulator conversion In-Reply-To: References: <012F27E8BB454438B4FBD7DC5F3FC378@atc0f226cd3237><4B041A71.1020001@comcast.net> Message-ID: Just type into Google search 12 volt regulator diagram Bob 1963 BJ7 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex" Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:10 PM To: "Charlie Baldwin" Cc: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Regulator conversion > Yup, I can see your point, Charlie. > > It's just that I'm an inveterate electroniker, and am always interested in > homebrewing electronics circuits (which you can see on my Web pages). > That's > why I asked. In the world of ham radio and electronics a lot of designs > are > published and shared. > > == Alex in Maine > "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 > Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, > 1965 MG Midget > http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlie Baldwin" > To: "Alex" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:01 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Regulator conversion > > >> Alex, >> Bob Jeffers has come up with this design as a service to the British car >> collecting fraternity and to make some money from his work. Somehow it >> seems wrong to pass around a schematic of his design so others can make >> copies. If you want a converted regulator, send yours to him and pay >> the $85 that he charges. >> Charlie > > > [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried > to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send > plain text.] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bj7ah at acanac.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Nov 18 14:22:09 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:22:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Pertronix question In-Reply-To: <66FC8D42433B4232BADCC0E60B6873C4@atc0f226cd3237> References: <66FC8D42433B4232BADCC0E60B6873C4@atc0f226cd3237> Message-ID: You might email Bob Jeffers for that. Mike On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:14 AM, AI2Q wrote: > Does anyone have a schematic circuit diagram of this solid-state regulator? > > == Alex in Maine > "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 > Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, > 1965 MG Midget > http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" < > rrengineer at dslextreme.com> > To: "Alan Seigrist" > Cc: ; > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Pertronix question > > > > They DO have positive ground Pertronix units. Let's not confuse the >> masses >> with statements like: No Pertronix until changed to neg ground! My Bugeye >> is Positive ground with a rebuilt Advanced Distributors unit that Jeff >> installed the Pertronix unit during the rebuild for me. Also using a >> solid >> state voltage regulator. Works better at directing electricity using a >> generator. It will make the generator last longer. Email >> bobj50 at camcast.net for further info. Here is the article by Bob Jeffers >> on >> converting your voltage regulator: *http://tinyurl.com/yb8m6ws* >> I also have converted the box for the BN2. No financial interest, just a >> very satisfied customer. >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.72/2511 - Release Date: 11/18/09 > 07:50:00 From thomas3 at shaw.ca Wed Nov 18 14:55:29 2009 From: thomas3 at shaw.ca (rick thomas) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:55:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 67 BJ8 in the making Message-ID: FINALLY - Thanks to many of YOU out there my carcass is up and running .It started right up and after a few hesitant moves up and down the driveway (to check brakes) I took it around the block. It ran and sounded great. Now I can get on with outer panels and interior. has any one used the interior installation video from Moss? does it cover BJ8s? is it worth the money I have boot material and carpet from Heritage thanks again Rick BJ8 in the making From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Nov 18 15:18:22 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:18:22 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Front Parking Lamp Boots BJ8 In-Reply-To: <4B044C6F.5020105@chello.nl> References: <5F3D811E757B4EE7A48814D312CF4DA6@LIFEBOOK> <4B044C6F.5020105@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4B0472AE.5060501@chello.nl> Rich, Here is another one. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lucas-L594-Pair-of-Insulation-Boots-576105-508162_W0QQitemZ190344710888QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2c516dcae8 Kees Oudesluijs > Rich, > > An example, I do not know if these are the correct ones, but others > can be found. > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lucas-488-Lamp-Rubbers-X-2_W0QQitemZ350278837738QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item518e3ee5ea > > > Rich C schreef: >> Where can I find the rubber parking lamp boots and wire sleeve >> protection >> tubes for Phase 2 BJ8 front parking lamps. The back side of these >> assemblies >> are totally exposed being right in front of the front wheels. >> Originals are >> shot and I need to find replacements. Nobody seems to list the full >> covering >> boot that encloses the full assembly including ground sleeve. >> >> Rich Chrysler From jstmorris at yahoo.com Wed Nov 18 15:48:34 2009 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:48:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Front Parking Lamp Boots BJ8 Message-ID: <349106.97767.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Rich;B You indicate the it is a Phase 2 BJ8 that you are seeking front lamp boots and wire sleeve for; hence a Lucas Model 691 with a BMC part number of 52751D.B [see attached bLucas Equipment Specificationsb file, page 7]B From that, I believe the wire sleeve and boot would be part number 54573156. [see attached bFront Running Lights-L691b file]B B One option is Classic Bits eBay store at: http://stores.ebay.com/Classic-BitsB B and put bL691b in their store search engine.B You will get 4 b 6 hits.B B B B Another option is to check out Auto Electric Supplies at: http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk ; specifically: http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/384 B You may have to search further however, just to get the wire sleeve and boot; it may not be sold separately. B Good luck Rich.B --Scott J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, B Murphy Lives --- On Wed, 11/18/09, Rich C wrote: <> __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Lucas] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Front] From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 16:00:27 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:00:27 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel Message-ID: <173126440911181500s1840d5f4i3477bc50cbf21f4f@mail.gmail.com> I have a chance to buy a NOS steering wheel for my BT7 for $200.00 US. +25.00 shipping checked a number of the usual parts houses and no one listed an OEM wheel. So my question is this.... good price or not.are the wheels the same for fixed and adjustable columns? Mine is fixed. Thanks Started repairing the right rear dogleg today. Not as much rust as I feared. 1 fender down, three to go..... -- I Erbs Portland, OR From rchaskell at earthlink.net Wed Nov 18 16:11:01 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:11:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel In-Reply-To: <173126440911181500s1840d5f4i3477bc50cbf21f4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911181500s1840d5f4i3477bc50cbf21f4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B047F05.6020708@earthlink.net> The two wheels are different. I Erbs wrote: > I have a chance to buy a NOS steering wheel for my BT7 for $200.00 US. > +25.00 shipping checked a number of the usual parts houses and no one listed > an OEM wheel. So my question is this.... > good price or not.are the wheels the same for fixed and adjustable columns? > Mine is fixed. > Thanks > Started repairing the right rear dogleg today. Not as much rust as I feared. > 1 fender down, three to go..... From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 16:13:03 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:13:03 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel In-Reply-To: <173126440911181500s1840d5f4i3477bc50cbf21f4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911181500s1840d5f4i3477bc50cbf21f4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <173126440911181513k32638dcft9b13fdf86835b76d@mail.gmail.com> Ok, so I no wknow the wheels are different, thanks to those who replied. It is for afixed wheel, which is good for me, next question is 200.00 a good price? Dose anyone on the list have one for sale? Thanks again On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:00 PM, I Erbs wrote: > > I have a chance to buy a NOS steering wheel for my BT7 for $200.00 US. > +25.00 shipping checked a number of the usual parts houses and no one listed > an OEM wheel. So my question is this.... > good price or not.are the wheels the same for fixed and adjustable columns? > Mine is fixed. > Thanks > Started repairing the right rear dogleg today. Not as much rust as I > feared. 1 fender down, three to go..... > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Nov 18 16:14:00 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:14:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel References: <173126440911181500s1840d5f4i3477bc50cbf21f4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <84EAEDCED9E54DA6AFE1508F16424B45@LIFEBOOK> They don't yet make the correct non adjustable wheel. They got it half right. The ones available have the right non adjustable hub, but the size and spoke spacing is for the adjustable wheel. The non adjustable spokes should be grouped closer together at the outer rim, not with the wide spacing of the adjustable wheel. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Erbs" To: "healey help" Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:00 PM Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel >I have a chance to buy a NOS steering wheel for my BT7 for $200.00 US. > +25.00 shipping checked a number of the usual parts houses and no one > listed > an OEM wheel. So my question is this.... > good price or not.are the wheels the same for fixed and adjustable > columns? > Mine is fixed. > Thanks > Started repairing the right rear dogleg today. Not as much rust as I > feared. > 1 fender down, three to go..... > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed Nov 18 16:18:18 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:18:18 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] tarpaper & jute under AH100 carpets Message-ID: <95F58FCEC35549ECB4E7EAB3C00215FE@tm> Hello, I am preparing to buy the jute (& maybe the tarpaper) for carpets, but am wondering what type was the jute is it like: http://tinyurl.com/yhedm9x ?? Or http://tinyurl.com/yetj77v ?? Where in UK would it be possibly available? Many thanks, Tadek From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 16:29:38 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:29:38 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] carb cable conversion Message-ID: <173126440911181529o66228e3ft815811a1d69ca24e@mail.gmail.com> hello again, Bought a cable conversion kit from the Nocks. It came with installation instructions and drawings, but I could use some photos. Anyone have a set of how it looks installed? please reply directly. Any issues with the overdrive kickdown bypasssed? Thanks -- I Erbs Portland, OR From rnsdavies at verizon.net Wed Nov 18 16:43:24 2009 From: rnsdavies at verizon.net (redlands ron davies) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:43:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel In-Reply-To: <173126440911181500s1840d5f4i3477bc50cbf21f4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <155777.61211.qm@web84207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I Erbs, You may already know this but, there are differences in a 100 wheels and a 100-6 / 3000 wheels. The spokes are closer together at the outer rim on a 100 and the blended in area is smaller. Spoke width is about 3/4" on a 100 and 1 1/8" on a six at the rim. I have both and just measured them. Ron BN2 BN2 - mod BJ8 - phase one AN5 --- On Wed, 11/18/09, I Erbs wrote: From: I Erbs Subject: [Healeys] steering wheel To: "healey help" Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 3:00 PM I have a chance to buy a NOS steering wheel for my BT7 for $200.00 US. +25.00 shipping checked a number of the usual parts houses and no one listed an OEM wheel. So my question is this.... good price or not.are the wheels the same for fixed and adjustable columns? Mine is fixed. Thanks Started repairing the right rear dogleg today. Not as much rust as I feared.. 1 fender down, three to go..... -- I Erbs Portland, OR Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as rnsdavies at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive From loftusdesign at cox.net Wed Nov 18 17:52:36 2009 From: loftusdesign at cox.net (John Loftus) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:52:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Re: Odometer reset mechanism BJ8 Message-ID: <4B0496D4.8070405@cox.net> Wes, Here's a few pictures showing the knurled knob that attaches to the pin for a BJ7. I have also seen a longer extension made up of a coupler, tightly wound spring material and a knurled knob that came off a BJ8 speedo. Let me know if you want a picture of that set up. http://www.loftusdesign.net/restorationweb/refurbishedtachandspeedo.html http://www.loftusdesign.net/restorationweb/tachandspeedofaces.html Cheers, John From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 18:40:19 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:40:19 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Heater color In-Reply-To: <78D64A5E32954D1894A4603E16A8084D@tm> References: <78D64A5E32954D1894A4603E16A8084D@tm> Message-ID: yes, similar to what's used on alot of valve covers (even BMWs). Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Tadeusz Malkiewicz < tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl> wrote: > Kind of like on the Jaguar e-type V12 valve covers?.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:51 PM > To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN2 Heater color > > Yes. Black krinkle coating, like lots of metal things in the 1950s... > Probably some old East German Cameras used the same type of > coating... From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 18 19:44:25 2009 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:44:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 67 BJ8 in the making In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I put the Moss interior in my BN7 driver without instructions; Not as tough as a BJ8 but not difficult. I cut the heat insulation using the Moss carpet as a pattern then trimmed to fit. Not anywhere near Concours but again, I drive it and only show it as a refurb in process. But, now to do the softtop...may need help on that. Richard of KY 1960 BN7 #440 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:55:29 -0500 > From: thomas3 at shaw.ca > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] 67 BJ8 in the making > > FINALLY - Thanks to many of YOU out there my carcass is up and running .It started right up and after a few hesitant moves up and down the driveway (to check brakes) I took it around the block. It ran and sounded great. Now I can get on with outer panels and interior. > has any one used the interior installation video from Moss? does it cover BJ8s? is it worth the money > I have boot material and carpet from Heritage > thanks again > > Rick > BJ8 in the making > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Nov 18 21:36:34 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:36:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] tarpaper & jute under AH100 carpets References: <95F58FCEC35549ECB4E7EAB3C00215FE@tm> Message-ID: Tadek, It is most like the http://tinyurl.com/yhedm9x but was half that thickness, which of course is not available. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tadeusz Malkiewicz" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: [Healeys] tarpaper & jute under AH100 carpets > Hello, > > I am preparing to buy the jute (& maybe the tarpaper) for carpets, but am > wondering what type was the jute is it like: > http://tinyurl.com/yhedm9x ?? > Or > http://tinyurl.com/yetj77v ?? > > Where in UK would it be possibly available? > > > Many thanks, > > Tadek From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Thu Nov 19 00:54:18 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:54:18 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] tarpaper & jute under AH100 carpets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rich, Many thanks as always! So, what do you use?... I understand the carpet from Heritage comes without the jute? Would you have some pictures where does the jute pads go? Are these the correct fasteners?: http://tinyurl.com/yfnf29b Best Regards, Tadek -----Original Message----- From: Rich C [mailto:richchrysler at quickclic.net] Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:37 AM To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] tarpaper & jute under AH100 carpets Tadek, It is most like the http://tinyurl.com/yhedm9x but was half that thickness, which of course is not available. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tadeusz Malkiewicz" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: [Healeys] tarpaper & jute under AH100 carpets > Hello, > > I am preparing to buy the jute (& maybe the tarpaper) for carpets, but am > wondering what type was the jute is it like: > http://tinyurl.com/yhedm9x ?? > Or > http://tinyurl.com/yetj77v ?? > > Where in UK would it be possibly available? > > > Many thanks, > > Tadek From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Thu Nov 19 01:06:47 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:06:47 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] tarpaper & jute under AH100 carpets In-Reply-To: <95F58FCEC35549ECB4E7EAB3C00215FE@tm> References: <95F58FCEC35549ECB4E7EAB3C00215FE@tm> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3BD8CB4@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Hello Tadek, Here in Europe I have not seen restored cars using the "Concours Correct" jute+tarpaper underfelt. And I have to say I am somewhat involved in the Concours business here in Europe. We do not deduct any points when underfelt is not to factory specification. So you might not find the right jute+tarpaper on this side of the pond. Most here use some kind of damping material (rubber based or so called Dunlopillo) which does not soak the water when getting wet and helps to keep heat out of the cockpit. Think, if you want to have this Concours correct, you need to buy in the USA and it is only for you to say you have everything to exact factory spec. But it gives only sympathy points in our Concours competitions. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Tadeusz Malkiewicz Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. November 2009 00:18 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] tarpaper & jute under AH100 carpets Hello, I am preparing to buy the jute (& maybe the tarpaper) for carpets, but am wondering what type was the jute is it like: http://tinyurl.com/yhedm9x ?? Or http://tinyurl.com/yetj77v ?? Where in UK would it be possibly available? Many thanks, Tadek _______ From scvc70 at epix.net Thu Nov 19 08:33:37 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:33:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] carb heat shield References: <1B4F9087F5694DC596970E96224A268A@computer624080> Message-ID: <71CAE9D2F0AF4B20BBC60ED6638C241E@computer624080> Thanks to all who replied directly to me -- turns out it wasn't a list post, it was in Norman's book (should have thought to look there first). Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carr&Edwards" To: "Healey List" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: [Healeys] carb heat shield > Does anyone on the list remember a post giving directions for making an > improved (larger) heat shield for the BN1/BN2??? > > I remember instructions to put the pattern on a copier and enlarge it > until > dimension A - B measured X --- but apparently I didn't save the email, and > I've searched the archives using every combination of terms I can think > of, > and I haven't been able to find it. > > (And thanks again to all those who sent me photos off-list of the carb > support > brackets; they're truly better than words!) > > > TIA, > Sarah Carr > BN1 in PA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as scvc70 at epix.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From price at advocateadvisors.com Thu Nov 19 11:57:35 2009 From: price at advocateadvisors.com (R. Price Lindsay) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:57:35 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Dash Board & Dash Top Refurbishment Message-ID: <8D4333A09700B046A4B0DCDF4A7DE55E4A3DD1@SERVER.acrea.local> List - In addition to having my BJ 8 repainted, I am going to refurbish my dash board and dash top over the winter. I have read much of the archives on this and presume it will be a fairly straight forward process to remove these from the car (I plan to do it prior to painting) and reassemble them, however, if anyone has any tips I would be very grateful. One question I have - should I reassemble the refurbished parts with the windshield in place or ask the painter not to install the windshield and do it myself once I have installed the dash and top? If I can do this with the windshield in place and get the same weather seal and fit I would prefer to do that (I'd hate to mess up a new paint job). As always, thank you so much for your input and help! Price Lindsay 67 BJ 8 From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Nov 19 14:40:51 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:40:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dash Board & Dash Top Refurbishment In-Reply-To: <8D4333A09700B046A4B0DCDF4A7DE55E4A3DD1@SERVER.acrea.local> References: <8D4333A09700B046A4B0DCDF4A7DE55E4A3DD1@SERVER.acrea.local> Message-ID: The dash can go in at any time but the padded topper goes in after the wind-screen due to the center screw attachment at the center of the wind-screen. What are you using to refinish the dash? Are you dipping or brushing the clear coat onto the dash? I am at that point (almost). The car goes to the painter on Monday after my removing all the chrome and bits. I was saving the dash 'till next winter. I have heard of dipping to get a nice flow of polyurethane. Rich Kahn > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:57:35 -0600 > From: price at advocateadvisors.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Dash Board & Dash Top Refurbishment > > List - > > > > In addition to having my BJ 8 repainted, I am going to refurbish my dash > board and dash top over the winter. I have read much of the archives on > this and presume it will be a fairly straight forward process to remove > these from the car (I plan to do it prior to painting) and reassemble > them, however, if anyone has any tips I would be very grateful. One > question I have - should I reassemble the refurbished parts with the > windshield in place or ask the painter not to install the windshield and > do it myself once I have installed the dash and top? If I can do this > with the windshield in place and get the same weather seal and fit I > would prefer to do that (I'd hate to mess up a new paint job). > > > > As always, thank you so much for your input and help! > > > > Price Lindsay > > 67 BJ 8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 From coll44 at msn.com Thu Nov 19 15:12:56 2009 From: coll44 at msn.com (TERRY COLL) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:12:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have also used MT90 and MTL in my BJ8 gearbox/overdrive. Couldn't tell that much difference in shifting between the two but I've decided to stay with the MTL because of Nock's recommendation. The MTL leaks a bit but I'm more comfortable going with it as it has been recommended from their vast wealth of experience. Terry Coll '64 BJ8 > From: Awgertoo at aol.com > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:33:28 -0500 > To: Healey100M at gmail.com; healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > CC: healeys at Autox.Team.Net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 > > Again I am in 100% agreement with Randy. I have tried both the MTL and MT > 90 in both my 100 and the Elva Courier (MGA transmission) and like the way > the 90 feels. The shifting seems to be just a bit more positive and since > I race the Elva I figure that heavier viscosity is a good thing to deal > with higher transmission oil temps. And using Castrol in any grade many > shifts were noisy and balky. > > Best--Michael Oritt > -------------------------------------- > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From bighealey at astound.net Thu Nov 19 16:19:48 2009 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:19:48 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tranny/Overdrive Lub References: Message-ID: <9FC1478A0D2C4FB99A2054EBD07535FA@Soderling> MT90 or MTL - I guess they both have advocates. When I made the switch from 20W-50 to Red Line about nine years ago, I called Red Lines headquarters (about 15 miles from my house) and talked to their applications engineer (who use to own a big Healey) and he recommended MT90 as best for the Healey transmission with overdrive. That's what I've been using. Vrooom vrooom, John Erika the Red Any variation of Obamacare will include a "global budget" which will have an unelected board to dictate what is covered for different ages of patients, i.e., the older you are the less the Washington will authorize to be spent on certain life-extending procedures for you. I liken this to high altitude bombing from 35,000 feet where you don't see the faces of the people you kill! ----- Original Message ----- From: "TERRY COLL" To: ; ; Cc: "austin healey" Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 >I have also used MT90 and MTL in my BJ8 gearbox/overdrive. Couldn't tell >that > much difference in shifting between the two but I've decided to stay with > the > MTL because of Nock's recommendation. The MTL leaks a bit but I'm more > comfortable going with it as it has been recommended from their vast > wealth of > experience. > > > > Terry Coll '64 BJ8 > >> From: Awgertoo at aol.com >> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:33:28 -0500 >> To: Healey100M at gmail.com; healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >> CC: healeys at Autox.Team.Net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dave Dougan's overdrive part 2 >> >> Again I am in 100% agreement with Randy. I have tried both the MTL and MT >> 90 in both my 100 and the Elva Courier (MGA transmission) and like the >> way >> the 90 feels. The shifting seems to be just a bit more positive and since >> I race the Elva I figure that heavier viscosity is a good thing to deal >> with higher transmission oil temps. And using Castrol in any grade many >> shifts were noisy and balky. >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> -------------------------------------- >> > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bighealey at astound.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tjmorrio at colby.edu Thu Nov 19 17:36:44 2009 From: tjmorrio at colby.edu (Thomas Morrione) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:36:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dashboard restoring Message-ID: Richard and Price, Price, I found that glove box side of mine in bad shape could be stripped to the veneer using (carefully) a straight edged razor blade. I slid it under the cracked finish at a slight angle and popped off sections of coating. Similar picking at the other side doesn't seem to be working. So, decided will sand off the finish on that side. Read the archives and looked on line and don't want to peel old veneer off. For peeling see: www.healey6.com/Technical/Werner/Refinishing%20Dash.pdf See also Envirotex on-line for more info re the epoxy (?) coating approach. Haven't used this product but plan to. If anyone on the list has info about this re: advisability please let me know. PS - anyone have thoughts about longer term wear problems with top king pin trunnion easy-steer bearing mod? I'm facing that possible option now. (Long term is relative I know --I don't buy green bananas anymore.) Tom 65 BJ8 --"in process" From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Nov 19 17:58:18 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:58:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 dash Message-ID: Yes, it is for a BJ8 dash. Its not in terrible shape. The PO refinished it but to a low luster. I was planning to sand it down to the veneer and dip into some kind of high gloss finish. I saw in the reference post that they POURED it on. Sounds messy. I want to keep the original cause the last part of the VIN is crayoned onto the back meaning it is factory original. I will check out the enviro stuff mentioned. I didn't mean to hijack this thread as it was not my question but it was timeley for me. Thanks all Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From 2x2doc at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 18:19:59 2009 From: 2x2doc at gmail.com (patrick williams) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:19:59 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Uprating early 3000 disk brakes Message-ID: <1985923d0911191719h6461936cnd1055dcb7e8cdb2@mail.gmail.com> A few years ago, Magnus Karlsson wrote an article in AH magazine on upgrading early 3000's ( Girling 14 calipers to Girling M16 calipers). The advantage is that you get bigger calipers + pads. The mounting holes are spaced 3 1/2 in for both. I found some M16 calipers dirt cheap on line ( they're off of early Mercury Capri's). However the mounting bolts appear to be 12 mm which is not the 7/16 in. for the girling 14. My questions for the list are: - Have others done this conversion? - what's your mounting bolt solution? Custom make a bolt or sleeve the caliper? - Is the conversion worth it? with - Should you use early or later (BJ8) disks? - Thoughts or data on offsets to center caliper on disk.Have others done this conversion? - If I sorted through this upgrade, would others be interested in it? I realize that the fluid connection needs to be modified to metric but that is pretty straightforward. I'm also planning to install a brake booster into my car to improve overall safety. The collective wisdom of the list is appreciated.what's your mounting bolt solution? Custom make a bolt or sleeve the caliper?Have others done this conversion? Is it worth it? Should you use early or later (BJ8) disks? Is it worth it? Should you use early or later (BJ8) disks? Thanks. Pat Williams in Huntsville, Alabama From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 18:41:48 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:41:48 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Uprating early 3000 disk brakes In-Reply-To: <1985923d0911191719h6461936cnd1055dcb7e8cdb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1985923d0911191719h6461936cnd1055dcb7e8cdb2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Patrick - Perhaps you have gotten the wrong caliper. I note that you say upgrading the Girling M16. M would suggest this is the metric version. Girling 16 calipers, probably from a TR7 or Jag Mk II which used these calipers later on - I would bet they use proper spacing and UNF threading on the brake pipes. Whether you use early discs or BJ8 discs is irrelevant, the offset of the two are different so you have to use the one that works best. Incidentally, it seems the early discs are a little better if trying to source upgraded discs because lots of companies make uprated early discs (i.e. slotted, drilled, etc.). Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:19 AM, patrick williams <2x2doc at gmail.com> wrote: > A few years ago, Magnus Karlsson wrote an article in AH magazine on > upgrading early 3000's ( Girling 14 calipers to Girling M16 calipers). The > advantage is that you get bigger calipers + pads. The mounting holes are > spaced 3 1/2 in for both. I found some M16 calipers dirt cheap on line ( > they're off of early Mercury Capri's). However the mounting bolts appear > to > be 12 mm which is not the 7/16 in. for the girling 14. My questions for > the > list are: > > - Have others done this conversion? > - what's your mounting bolt solution? Custom make a bolt or sleeve the > caliper? > - Is the conversion worth it? with > - Should you use early or later (BJ8) disks? > - Thoughts or data on offsets to center caliper on disk.Have others done > this conversion? > - If I sorted through this upgrade, would others be interested in it? > > I realize that the fluid connection needs to be modified to metric but that > is pretty straightforward. > I'm also planning to install a brake booster into my car to improve overall > safety. > The collective wisdom of the list is appreciated.what's your mounting bolt > solution? Custom make a bolt or sleeve the caliper?Have others done this > conversion? > Is it worth it? > Should you use early or later (BJ8) disks? > Is it worth it? > Should you use early or later (BJ8) disks? > Thanks. > Pat Williams in Huntsville, Alabama From sales at justbrits.com Thu Nov 19 18:46:10 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:46:10 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Contest 'winner' !!! In-Reply-To: <1985923d0911191719h6461936cnd1055dcb7e8cdb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1985923d0911191719h6461936cnd1055dcb7e8cdb2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B05F4E2.4090003@justbrits.com> Hey folks, our very own Lister Sarah Carr Took THIRD "The Week" Contest [some sort of magazine] !!!!!!!! Results JUST received !!!!!! Anon * ************************************************* Results:* *We asked you to come up with the title of a song Bob Dylan might write for his upcoming Christmas album. *FIRST PRIZE: Stuck Inside a Chimney with the Fat Man Blues Again *Ermalinda R. White,* Union, NJ (first of many similar entries) *SECOND PRIZE:* Oh The Ties, They Need Exchanging *Bonnie Ingram,* Leavenworth, KS *THIRD PRIZE:* He Ain't Real, Babe *Sarah Carr,* Cranston, RI *HONORABLE MENTIONS: * Blood Pudding On The Tracks *Robert Martin,* Riverton, UT From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Nov 19 18:54:18 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:54:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dashboard restoring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B05F6CA.4050500@comcast.net> re: "anyone have thoughts about longer term wear problems with top king pin trunnion easy-steer bearing mod?" I've got close to 4K miles on mine with no problems. bs Thomas Morrione wrote: > Richard and Price, > > Price, I found that glove box side of mine in bad shape could be stripped to > the veneer using (carefully) a straight edged razor blade. I slid it under > the cracked finish at a slight angle and popped off sections of coating. > Similar picking at the other side doesn't seem to be working. So, decided > will sand off the finish on that side. Read the archives and looked on line > and don't want to peel old veneer off. For peeling see: > > www.healey6.com/Technical/Werner/Refinishing%20Dash.pdf > > See also Envirotex on-line for more info re the epoxy (?) coating approach. > Haven't used this product but plan to. If anyone on the list has info about > this re: advisability please let me know. > > PS - anyone have thoughts about longer term wear problems with top king > pin trunnion easy-steer bearing mod? I'm facing that possible option now. > (Long term is relative I know --I > don't buy green bananas anymore.) > > Tom 65 BJ8 --"in process" > > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From kags at shaw.ca Thu Nov 19 21:36:18 2009 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:36:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Uprating early 3000 disk brakes References: <1985923d0911191719h6461936cnd1055dcb7e8cdb2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Patrick: If you want to upgrade to type 16 Girlings - (don't know about the Capri callipers) - the best way to do it in my opinion would be to convert the front end to BJ8 specs with salvaged BJ8 parts. This would include the swivel axles, their associated dust covers (back plates), discs, callipers, bearings, plus other small bits. The brake master cyl. should be changed to the BJ8 spec - 7/8" bore as well to have a properly balanced brake system, and as you plan, a servo (of the correct boost ratio) should be included. There is a safety issue if you attempt to mix and match brake parts, in my opinion. A patient perusal of the factory parts list would show you exactly what parts were changed when the factory did the brake upgrade. The best parts list for this would be the BJ7 BJ8 manual - the BJ7 has the same type 14 calliper set up as your early 3000. Be aware that the earlier brake set-up had a servo optional from sometime in the production run of the 3000 MKII BT / BN7 through the BJ7, and then standard on the very first few BJ8's - and it's a different servo than the later one. (both the servo and the brake master cyl. (5/8" bore) are matched to the type 14 calliper on the earlier car). Is it worthwhile? I have a BT7 tri-carb - no servo, and a late BJ8. Nothing wrong with the brakes on either car - admittedly, the BJ8 has better brakes. Would I change the early car over - haven't so far - doubt that I ever would. If you haven't already done so, try and drive a BJ8 for long enough to form an opinion. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BT7 tri-carb BJ8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "patrick williams" <2x2doc at gmail.com> To: Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:19 PM Subject: [Healeys] Uprating early 3000 disk brakes A few years ago, Magnus Karlsson wrote an article in AH magazine on upgrading early 3000's ( Girling 14 calipers to Girling M16 calipers). The advantage is that you get bigger calipers + pads. The mounting holes are spaced 3 1/2 in for both. I found some M16 calipers dirt cheap on line ( they're off of early Mercury Capri's). However the mounting bolts appear to be 12 mm which is not the 7/16 in. for the girling 14. My questions for the list are: - Have others done this conversion? - what's your mounting bolt solution? Custom make a bolt or sleeve the caliper? - Is the conversion worth it? with - Should you use early or later (BJ8) disks? - Thoughts or data on offsets to center caliper on disk.Have others done this conversion? - If I sorted through this upgrade, would others be interested in it? I realize that the fluid connection needs to be modified to metric but that is pretty straightforward. I'm also planning to install a brake booster into my car to improve overall safety. The collective wisdom of the list is appreciated.what's your mounting bolt solution? Custom make a bolt or sleeve the caliper?Have others done this From pieters at pt.lu Fri Nov 20 01:09:59 2009 From: pieters at pt.lu (Pieter and Linda) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:09:59 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Dashboard restoring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9D8F8CE9-52F1-47D7-8833-7C77950E4A34@pt.lu> I have used Envirotex on woodworking projects and it is a fine product. However from memory I don't think it is very UV stable so may not be the best for a dash that is going to see a lot of sunlight. As to the trunnion bearing, mine have been in for about 7,000 pretty hard miles with no change in end float. They made a huge difference when using big tyres and a smaller steering wheel, cheers Pieter On 20/11/2009, at 1:36 AM, Thomas Morrione wrote: > Richard and Price, > > Price, I found that glove box side of mine in bad shape could be > stripped to > the veneer using (carefully) a straight edged razor blade. I slid it > under > the cracked finish at a slight angle and popped off sections of > coating. > Similar picking at the other side doesn't seem to be working. So, > decided > will sand off the finish on that side. Read the archives and looked > on line > and don't want to peel old veneer off. For peeling see: > > www.healey6.com/Technical/Werner/Refinishing%20Dash.pdf > > See also Envirotex on-line for more info re the epoxy (?) coating > approach. > Haven't used this product but plan to. If anyone on the list has > info about > this re: advisability please let me know. > > PS - anyone have thoughts about longer term wear problems with top > king > pin trunnion easy-steer bearing mod? I'm facing that possible option > now. > (Long term is relative I know --I > don't buy green bananas anymore.) > > Tom 65 BJ8 --"in process" > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as pieters at pt.lu > > http://www.team.net/archive From writeian at aol.com Fri Nov 20 07:42:03 2009 From: writeian at aol.com (writeian at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:42:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In-Reply-To: <4AF6224C.9070603@pacbell.net> References: <4AF5B3AC.5010500@pacbell.net> <4AF6224C.9070603@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <8CC3806C23213AF-4850-20F9@webmail-d029.sysops.aol.com> M for Modified has been my assumption and thus 100M = 100Modified In part because if M = Mans and 100M = 100Mans then the Le would be missing and the French would dislike or damn me, an American, perhaps even more ! C'est La Vie ! At least we now know how to spell Le Mans, just like they do in France. Back to more productive and less childish endeavors. Bill '53 Red Car ;-) Randy Hicks wrote: > Oh, just to further muddy the water, my Heritage Certificate states: > > "The B.M.I.H.T can confirm that this car is a genuine, factory built > Austin Healey 100 M "Le Mans"." > > Le Mans being in quotes and a space between Le & Mans. > > Doesn't that help? :-) > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > '56 100M "Le Mans" > '55 BN1 Dealer "Le Mans" > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as writeian at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From peter at nosimport.com Fri Nov 20 08:25:24 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:25:24 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Uprating early 3000 disk brakes In-Reply-To: <1985923d0911191719h6461936cnd1055dcb7e8cdb2@mail.gmail.com > References: <1985923d0911191719h6461936cnd1055dcb7e8cdb2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200911200725675.SM01616@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Just a point about the calipers. The P16 calipers that are a straight exchange with those used on Healeys are from Triumph TR4As, TR250s, and TR6s upt to mid 1972. Also MGCs used them. Later TR6s and Capris used the metric M16 calipers. Within the group of P16 calipers are P16B which swap, except the component pistons and seals are not interchangable. Peter C = At 07:19 PM 11/19/2009, patrick williams wrote: >A few years ago, Magnus Karlsson wrote an article in AH magazine on >upgrading early 3000's ( Girling 14 calipers to Girling M16 calipers). The >advantage is that you get bigger calipers + pads. The mounting holes are >spaced 3 1/2 in for both. I found some M16 calipers dirt cheap on line ( >they're off of early Mercury Capri's). However the mounting bolts appear to >be 12 mm which is not the 7/16 in. for the girling 14. My questions for the >list are: From scvc70 at epix.net Fri Nov 20 09:03:35 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:03:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Holiday Cheer 101 - Bob Dylan Christmas album] Message-ID: <7E344563F1474BECA10440D26D489554@computer624080> ----- Original Message ----- From: Carr&Edwards To: sales at justbrits.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Holiday Cheer 101 - Bob Dylan Christmas album] Sorry, Ed, but "it ain't me, babe" --- I'm in Pennsylvania! (But what great imaginations the winners have....) (The other) Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Shop at " Just Brits " To: Sarah Carr & Edwards Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: [Fwd: Holiday Cheer 101 - Bob Dylan Christmas album] CONGRATS, Sarah !!!! LOL -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Holiday Cheer 101 - Bob Dylan Christmas album Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:05:37 -0800 From: Rick Feibusch To: Venice Watchdawg submitted by Don Scott of Calistoga, CA The Week contest Results: We asked you to come up with the title of a song Bob Dylan might write for his upcoming Christmas album. FIRST PRIZE: Stuck Inside a Chimney with the Fat Man Blues Again Ermalinda R. White, Union, NJ (first of many similar entries) SECOND PRIZE: Oh The Ties, They Need Exchanging Bonnie Ingram, Leavenworth, KS THIRD PRIZE: He Ain't Real, Babe Sarah Carr, Cranston, RI HONORABLE MENTIONS: Blood Pudding On The Tracks Robert Martin, Riverton, UT Tangled Up in Lights. Susan Smith Jones, Peachtree City, GA (and others) Don't Think Twice, It's All White Graham Rice, Milford, PA Positively 34th Street William Lebzelter, Buffalo Grove, IL (and others) Sleigh, Lady, Sleigh Judy White, Milford, PA (and others) (I ain't gonna work for) Santa's Elves (no more). Barbara Capwell, Queen Creek, AZ Magi's Farm Ed De Lorenzo, Brooklyn (and others) Prancer is Glowin' in the Wind Cydnee Farmer, South Jordan, UT Stuck Behind the Reindeer with the Sleigh Bell Blues Again Seth Richard, Winter Springs, FL Stuck Inside My Bedroom Drinkin' Santa's Booze Again Cutler Barry, Palm Desert, CA White on White Donna Chenault, Decatur GA House of the Risin' Son Bonnie Ingram, Leavenworth, KS Hey Mr. Nazarene Man Steve Kaplan, St Louis Park, MN The Chimes They Are A-Clangin' Richard Carpenter, Danvers, MA (and others) Hark! The Herald Angels Mumble Bill Muse, Seattle Highway 61 Regifted Dan Coates, St. Louis, MO Santa was a Rolling Stone Sukie McCormick, Richmond, VA (and others) Knocking on Wal-Mart's Door Leslie Baker, Kenao, AK Layaway, Lady, Layaway. Tammis Dowling, Landenberg, PA Ballad of a Fat Man David Sward, Kensington, MD (and others) God Rest Ye Merry Zimmerman Michael Kay, Hartford, CT [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From jobu53 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 20 11:19:41 2009 From: jobu53 at hotmail.com (Dan) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:19:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Differential Capacity Message-ID: Can someone tell me what the oil capacity for the differential is? I have read manuals and some say 3 pints and others say 3 1/2 pints. I would appreciate any replies. Happy Thanksgiving to all the fine members and families of this list. Dan Serrao 1963 BJ7 Fountain Hills, AZ People who don't read the newspaper are uninformed, those who read the newspaper are misinformed........ Mark Twain _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From kags at shaw.ca Fri Nov 20 12:10:47 2009 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:10:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Differential Capacity References: Message-ID: <417DB2D5AFC14EE89CB823848200344A@computer> Dan: Factory manual says '3.6 US pints'. 2 of the usual bottles will do it with a bit left over - I guess they're US quart bottles (just under 1 litre here in Canada). An a happy Thanksgiving to you in return, although us Canadians have long since digested the turkey - our Thanksgiving was in mid-October. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BT7 tri-carb BJ8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan" To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: [Healeys] Differential Capacity Can someone tell me what the oil capacity for the differential is? I have read manuals and some say 3 pints and others say 3 1/2 pints. I would appreciate any replies. Happy Thanksgiving to all the fine members and families of this list. Dan Serrao 1963 BJ7 Fountain Hills, AZ From frogeye at porterscustom.com Fri Nov 20 12:29:01 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:29:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Differential Capacity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A574141A0B743398173FAA683872A53@oscar> Fill to the bottom of the filler hole. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:20 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Differential Capacity Can someone tell me what the oil capacity for the differential is? I have read manuals and some say 3 pints and others say 3 1/2 pints. I would appreciate any replies. Happy Thanksgiving to all the fine members and families of this list. Dan Serrao 1963 BJ7 Fountain Hills, AZ People who don't read the newspaper are uninformed, those who read the newspaper are misinformed........ Mark Twain _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 12:42:17 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:42:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] inside rear fender Message-ID: <173126440911201142u7a95e36ja5e0f821a77b9d17@mail.gmail.com> can someone send me photos of the inside rear fender 4 seater BT7 We are replacing the doglegs and would like a shot of how a complete one looks like. I am ordering a photo set from the Nocks, but need to see it sooner. eyera3 at gmail.com -- I Erbs Portland, OR From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Nov 20 12:44:25 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:44:25 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Differential Capacity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B06F199.40500@chello.nl> Fill untill overflow through the plug hole in the appr. middle of the rear cover. Kees Oudesluijs Dan schreef: > Can someone tell me what the oil capacity for the differential is? I have read > manuals and some say 3 pints and others say 3 1/2 pints. I would appreciate > any replies. > > Happy Thanksgiving to all the fine members and families of this list. > > Dan Serrao > 1963 BJ7 > Fountain Hills, AZ > > People who don't read the newspaper are uninformed, those who read the > newspaper are misinformed........ Mark Twain > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From westonkeyes at hotmail.com Fri Nov 20 13:35:06 2009 From: westonkeyes at hotmail.com (Weston Keyes) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:35:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Wiper blades and dipper switch BJ8 Message-ID: Hello Folks, Thanks to all for the help with the odometer knob. More questions: 1. I bought some new wiper arms and blades. On a BJ8 do they park on the right or the left looking from the drivers seat. Mine is a right hand drive if that makes any difference. My shafts move the blades from right to left looking from the drivers seat. It seems obvious that they would park on the right but it puts them high up on the glass not low like the pictures I have seen. 2. Is the late BJ8 dipper switch small and mounted on the top of the bracket. I also have a bigger dip switch that mounts behind the bracket so the wires aren't seen. I am told that is an earlier version. If it is mounted on the top of the bracket than the wires would show? Right? Many thanks Wes Keyes York, Maine PS I am nearly done with this nightmare. I hope to post a bunch of pictures on the web and ask for you pros to comment on the correctness of assembly. From info at atteanlodge.com Fri Nov 20 14:35:59 2009 From: info at atteanlodge.com (Attean Lake Lodge) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:35:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] wiring problems Message-ID: <26DD22AF8B2B42E2BF65C3322EE41AD9@PC1> Hi List, After a summer of work and no play today was supposed to be the big day when I fired up the healey for the first time. Gassed her, checked everything again and again and cranked her over,( I had done this before to get oil pressure) not even a whimper came from her. I quickly ascertained there was no fire from the coil, nor was there any going to it via the black & white wire from the master switch, I have current in the b&w wire when it leaves the junction in the trunk but none when it reaches the firewall junction, this is a brand new loom as is everything else, petronix ignition, negative ground. Could that wire be somehow broken between the trunk and engine compartments? Has anyone else had such a problem? Many thanks as always. Brad Holden BJ8 in Jackman, Maine From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Nov 20 15:08:04 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] wiring problems In-Reply-To: <26DD22AF8B2B42E2BF65C3322EE41AD9@PC1> Message-ID: <721560214.5012001258754884071.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> The white/black wire that goes to the master switch is used to ground the points when the switch is 'off' with a points-ignition car. In this case, the only time you'd see current is with the ignition switch on and the points closed (it would pulse as you cranked the engine). When the master switch is turned to 'on,' the white/black switch will be an open circuit to the coil. Points switch primary ignition current to ground 'downstream' of the coil. A Pertronix will switch current to the coil 'upstream' of the coil, so you need an alternate path to ground. I used the white/black lead, but moved it on the master switch to the same terminal that switches the battery to ground. Works a treat. Did your Pertronix-switched ignition ever work (doesn't sound like it). bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Hi List, After a summer of work and no play today was supposed to be the big day when I fired up the healey for the first time. Gassed her, checked everything again and again and cranked her over,( I had done this before to get oil pressure) not even a whimper came from her. I quickly ascertained there was no fire from the coil, nor was there any going to it via the black & white wire from the master switch, I have current in the b&w wire when it leaves the junction in the trunk but none when it reaches the firewall junction, this is a brand new loom as is everything else, petronix ignition, negative ground. Could that wire be somehow broken between the trunk and engine compartments? Has anyone else had such a problem? Many thanks as always. Brad Holden BJ8 in Jackman, Maine From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 15:19:08 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:19:08 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] wiring problems In-Reply-To: <26DD22AF8B2B42E2BF65C3322EE41AD9@PC1> References: <26DD22AF8B2B42E2BF65C3322EE41AD9@PC1> Message-ID: Brad - Your battery switch has probably failed. Disconnect the white/black wire that goes to the trunk and I bet your car starts right up. You can leave that wire disconnected, no problem. Alan On 11/21/09, Attean Lake Lodge wrote: > Hi List, > After a summer of work and no play today was supposed to be the big day when > I > fired up the healey for the first time. Gassed her, checked everything again > and again and cranked her over,( I had done this before to get oil pressure) > not even a whimper came from her. I quickly ascertained there was no fire > from > the coil, nor was there any going to it via the black & white wire from the > master switch, I have current in the b&w wire when it leaves the junction in > the trunk but none when it reaches the firewall junction, this is a brand > new > loom as is everything else, petronix ignition, negative ground. Could that > wire be somehow broken between the trunk and engine compartments? Has anyone > else had such a problem? Many thanks as always. > Brad Holden > BJ8 in Jackman, Maine > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Nov 20 15:23:52 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:23:52 EST Subject: [Healeys] Differential Capacity Message-ID: In a message dated 11/20/2009 1:21:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jobu53 at hotmail.com writes: Can someone tell me what the oil capacity for the differential is? I have read manuals and some say 3 pints and others say 3 1/2 pints. I would appreciate any replies. Dan-- I just filled mine and as I recall it took something over 1.5 quarts--I use a pump so cannot attest to the exact amount, but if you really care simply fill, drain and measure. From austin.healey at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 16:19:22 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:19:22 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Differential Capacity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 3 Imperial pints = 3.6 US pints So if you have a US book it says 3; a UK book says 3.5 or 3.6 Sent from my iPhone On 21/11/2009, at 9:23 AM, Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/20/2009 1:21:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jobu53 at hotmail.com writes: > > Can someone tell me what the oil capacity for the differential is? > I have > read > manuals and some say 3 pints and others say 3 1/2 pints. I would > appreciate > any replies. > > > > > Dan-- > > I just filled mine and as I recall it took something over 1.5 > quarts--I > use a pump so cannot attest to the exact amount, but if you really > care > simply fill, drain and measure. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as austin.healey at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 16:47:19 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:47:19 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Differential Capacity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chris, mate, Your pommy measurements are all off. Us yanks would be 3.6 pints to the UK 3. Add to that US 2% beer, means you'd have to drink a whole six pack in the US to get the same punch in one pint at the London Hotel in Balmain. On 11/21/09, Chris Dimmock wrote: > 3 Imperial pints = 3.6 US pints > So if you have a US book it says 3; a UK book says 3.5 or 3.6 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 21/11/2009, at 9:23 AM, Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 11/20/2009 1:21:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> jobu53 at hotmail.com writes: >> >> Can someone tell me what the oil capacity for the differential is? >> I have >> read >> manuals and some say 3 pints and others say 3 1/2 pints. I would >> appreciate >> any replies. >> >> >> >> >> Dan-- >> >> I just filled mine and as I recall it took something over 1.5 >> quarts--I >> use a pump so cannot attest to the exact amount, but if you really >> care >> simply fill, drain and measure. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as austin.healey at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From austin.healey at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 16:49:24 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:49:24 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Wiper blades and dipper switch BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7AC51E2F-F31B-413C-9EA2-0E2CC4979BC1@gmail.com> RHD cars have the wipers park on the right. LHD cars have the wipers park on the Left. If the wipers park on the "wrong" side, it's usually because the car has been converted. Many Australian healeys started life as US cars, and were converted to RHD. Genuine RHD 3000's were only about 20 - 30 % of production. Sent from my iPhone On 21/11/2009, at 7:35 AM, Weston Keyes wrote: > Hello Folks, > > Thanks to all for the help with the odometer knob. > > More questions: > > 1. I bought some new wiper arms and blades. On a BJ8 do they park on > the right > or the left looking from the drivers seat. Mine is a right hand > drive if that > makes any difference. My shafts move the blades from right to left > looking > from the drivers seat. It seems obvious that they would park on the > right but > it puts them high up on the glass not low like the pictures I have > seen. > > 2. Is the late BJ8 dipper switch small and mounted on the top of the > bracket. > I also have a bigger dip switch that mounts behind the bracket so > the wires > aren't seen. I am told that is an earlier version. If it is mounted > on the top > of the bracket than the wires would show? > Right? > > Many thanks > > Wes Keyes > York, Maine > > PS I am nearly done with this nightmare. I hope to post a bunch of > pictures on > the web and ask for you pros to comment on the correctness of > assembly. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as austin.healey at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Nov 20 17:20:36 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:20:36 EST Subject: [Healeys] 100 Cams Message-ID: I have two 100 cams that I dug out of a storage bin. Measuring the lobes on the first one I get the following profile (starting with Exhaust Valve #1 and proceeding back): Exhaust 1: 1.375 Intake 1: 1.404 Intake 2: 1.384 Exhaust 2: 1.387 Exhaust 3: 1.328 Intake 3: 1.399 Intake 4: 1.391 Exhaust 4: 1.364 Measuring the lobes on the second one I get the following profile: Exhaust 1: 1.451 Intake 1: 1.440 Intake 2: 1.443 Exhaust 2: 1.451 Exhaust 3: 1.445 Intake 3: 1.426 Intake 4: 1.441 Exhaust 4: 1.429 Can either of these cams be reground? FWIW the second one was an Iskenderian Cam (I think a T-3) put in by the original owner. The first one was the stock cam that he replaced with the Isky. All opinions appreciated. Best--Michael Oritt From ah53 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 21 06:17:40 2009 From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:17:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Engine Rebuild Message-ID: <513312.5017.qm@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> As some of you know last year I spun a bearing on my return from Encounter in Carlyle Pa. in #923 I am finally over the anger of my stupidity, long story, and with the help on my son in law, Mike, pulled the engine a week ago. Here's what we have. The engine was .030 over already. The crank will need to be ground as the #2 rod bearing is now part of the crank journal. The #8 lobe on the cam is shot. My options: The machine shop suggests going .060 over. If I do this I was going to use DW pistons. or.... I can get a set of NOS standard pistons and sleeve to that size or... Can I sleeve to .030 and reuse my old pistons? I don't mind keeping the car low/90hp. I enjoy the driving difference between it and the 100M. Unfortunately I can't seem to find a new stock grind cam. Everyone seems to offer only a performance version. This to some degree negates my desire to keep the car "stock". Any thoughts and observations from the groups intelligence are appreciated. Joe BN1 #923 Coronet Cream BN2 100M BJ8 The Blue Baby as per wife and kid From glemon at neb.rr.com Sat Nov 21 09:00:36 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:00:36 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Rebuild In-Reply-To: <513312.5017.qm@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <513312.5017.qm@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8A60821A244A41848253B5DEEF00EA31@GregPC> Joe, I went through a similar process on my 100 rebuild, the liners were pitted, and my options were to go .060" over or get the block sleeved to stock, in fact I had already purchased the sleaves. My machinist who I came to trust suggested the would be the better choice and I went that route, I could only find pistons from England, but I do not believe they were DW, but one of the major Healey suppliers over there, they were 8.5/1 pistons. if you want the name of the supplier I may stlll be able to dig it up. I had my cam reground to M spec by Delta Cams, who also resurfaced my lifters, but if you prefer new all I will add is that the M spec cam is not at all radical and has a smooth idle and does not detract from the low end torquey character of the motor, and I used this set up with the stock carbs and intake set-up as it sounds like you may be considering (?). Good Luck Greg Lemon From willig at wtnet.de Sat Nov 21 13:48:33 2009 From: willig at wtnet.de (T+ B Willig) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:48:33 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Steering cednter Rod BN1 -BN2 difference Message-ID: <000301ca6aeb$fdb29b00$f917d100$@de> Can someone out there tell me what the difference is between a BN1 steering center rod and a BN2 center rod? Thank Thomas Willig From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Nov 21 14:32:19 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:32:19 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer Angle Drive Message-ID: <4B085C63.3070008@comcast.net> Anybody taken these apart and reassembled? Any tech articles and/or websites on how to accomplish this? It's not obvious or even apparent how this can be done, or if it's even possible. TIA, Bob -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From peter at nosimport.com Sat Nov 21 14:54:03 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:54:03 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer Angle Drive In-Reply-To: <4B085C63.3070008@comcast.net> References: <4B085C63.3070008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200911211354736.SM01616@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Bob, I used to rebuild these. Find a small socket that fits over the cable and is the diameter of the steel slug that holds the cable bit. Tap it with a hammer and the gear, shims and core plug will all drop out. When you reassemble, you'll dimple the housing to hold the core plug in. Are you going to repair a broken cable? Peter C == At 03:32 PM 11/21/2009, Bob Spidell wrote: >Anybody taken these apart and reassembled? Any tech articles and/or >websites on how to accomplish this? It's not obvious or even >apparent how this can be done, or if it's even possible. > >TIA, >Bob From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Nov 21 15:03:34 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:03:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Speedometer Angle Drive In-Reply-To: <200911211354736.SM01616@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <4B085C63.3070008@comcast.net> <200911211354736.SM01616@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4B0863B6.3030704@comcast.net> Hi Peter, Sort of. I have two drives (thanks hmj), each with some parts missing or broken. I'm hoping to make one good one out of them. I've heard of people lubricating these, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do it (unless you just drop oil in from either end). bs Peter Caldwell wrote: > Bob, I used to rebuild these. Find a small socket that fits over the > cable and is the diameter of the steel slug that holds the cable bit. > Tap it with a hammer and the gear, shims and core plug will all drop > out. When you reassemble, you'll dimple the housing to hold the core > plug in. > > Are you going to repair a broken cable? > > Peter C > == > At 03:32 PM 11/21/2009, Bob Spidell wrote: >> Anybody taken these apart and reassembled? Any tech articles and/or >> websites on how to accomplish this? It's not obvious or even >> apparent how this can be done, or if it's even possible. >> >> TIA, >> Bob > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 21 16:04:30 2009 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:04:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Steering cednter Rod BN1 -BN2 difference In-Reply-To: <000301ca6aeb$fdb29b00$f917d100$@de> Message-ID: <567521.82878.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> If you down load our Rare and Hard to Find Parts Catalog and look on page 19 you will have your answer ... Norman Nock www.BritishCarSpecialists.Com check our catalogs now on line TECH TALK BOOK SAMPLE PAGES ON LINE British Car Specialist 2060 N Wilson Way Stockton CA95205 209 948 8767 *** --- On Sat, 11/21/09, T+ B Willig wrote: From: T+ B Willig Subject: [Healeys] Steering cednter Rod BN1 -BN2 difference To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 12:48 PM Can someone out there tell me what the difference is between a BN1 steering center rod and a BN2 center rod? Thank Thomas Willig Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sjnnock at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Nov 21 16:24:04 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:24:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: References: <751d05480911130841r202000b6ibf84da8e9439b151@mail.gmail.com>, <1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <06ca01ca6b01$b76a3250$263e96f0$@net> Actually, Coloramic holds the copywrite for the Pikovnik book. Think that they are one and the same. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:09 PM To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW This is the book that you refer to, right? http://www.coloramic.com/britcars.htm http://www.coloramic.com/articles/ahcgtext.htm http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm There are 2 ICI codes for OEW according to this. ( There is also a Pale Ivory. ) OEW is your battle. My interest when I found this site, was the Carmen Red and the Carmine Red with the same Mfg Code and different ICI codes. Battle on. > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:13 +0000 > > IIRC--the book's at home--Pikovnic lists two whites for BN1s and BN2s: OEW and Ivory (Pale or White I don't recall--think Pale). I'll check tonight, but I believe they were different color codes (the paint chips were perceptibly different). > > So, the answer is: there were two 'whites' for the 100s, and one--known either as OE or Ivory--for the 6-cyl cars? > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Sat Nov 21 16:48:25 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:48:25 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <06ca01ca6b01$b76a3250$263e96f0$@net> References: <751d05480911130841r202000b6ibf84da8e9439b151@mail.gmail.com>, <1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <06ca01ca6b01$b76a3250$263e96f0$@net> Message-ID: <4B087C49.9000607@comcast.net> <> Correct, John. Ed From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Nov 21 19:34:56 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:34:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <06ca01ca6b01$b76a3250$263e96f0$@net> References: <751d05480911130841r202000b6ibf84da8e9439b151@mail.gmail.com> <1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <06ca01ca6b01$b76a3250$263e96f0$@net> Message-ID: <173126440911211834w76f2d2d0t31efc1ae785676cc@mail.gmail.com> I see from the chart http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm that there were a number of reds. which one was used on an early BT7 and does anyone have color samples for me to look at? never cease to be amazed at what info is now available so easily from this list.... Thanks On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 3:24 PM, John Sims wrote: > Actually, Coloramic holds the copywrite for the Pikovnik book. Think that > they are one and the same. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of robertduquette at sympatico.ca > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:09 PM > To: Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW > > This is the book that you refer to, right? > > http://www.coloramic.com/britcars.htm > > http://www.coloramic.com/articles/ahcgtext.htm > > http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm > > > > There are 2 ICI codes for OEW according to this. > > ( There is also a Pale Ivory. ) > > > > OEW is your battle. My interest when I found this site, was the Carmen Red > and the Carmine Red with the same Mfg Code and different ICI codes. > > > > Battle on. > > > > > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:13 +0000 > > > > IIRC--the book's at home--Pikovnic lists two whites for BN1s and BN2s: > OEW > and Ivory (Pale or White I don't recall--think Pale). I'll check tonight, > but > I believe they were different color codes (the paint chips were perceptibly > different). > > > > So, the answer is: there were two 'whites' for the 100s, and one--known > either as OE or Ivory--for the 6-cyl cars? > > > > > > bs > > > > -------------------------------- > > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From f9cougar at yahoo.com Sat Nov 21 19:38:14 2009 From: f9cougar at yahoo.com (john close) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:38:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Brake Relay/3rd Brake Light Troubles Message-ID: <161975.93246.qm@web112010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi Guys - Recently was rear-ended. I have a good body shop, and they did a great job on the bodywork and paint, As I left the car off, though, I said to myself, "bet they'll screw up the wiring." Well, they did, along with buggering up the fuel sender, which is the easy part to fix. I don't know why they couldn't just hook it as I had it labeled, but they didn't like the relay and took it out. Then they did a half-assed job of re-wiring it. Ya, I know, take it back, but are you kidding? They did enough damage already. Anyhow, I spent a frustrating day trying to put things back in order, but it's still FUBAR. I think I can end my troubles by... getting drunk - naah just kidding - I'd never do that... No,I think it's where to connect the wire from the flasher relay box, terminal 5. I don't know where that sucker would go. Please send help, Relay Experts. - Thanks - JRC From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Nov 21 21:05:16 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:05:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW In-Reply-To: <173126440911211834w76f2d2d0t31efc1ae785676cc@mail.gmail.com> References: <751d05480911130841r202000b6ibf84da8e9439b151@mail.gmail.com> <1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <06ca01ca6b01$b76a3250$263e96f0$@net> <173126440911211834w76f2d2d0t31efc1ae785676cc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <06d501ca6b29$0038e400$00aaac00$@net> According to the Pikovnik book there were two reds - Colorado Red RD.02 (ICI - 3742) and Reno Red (RD.14 ICI - 3000) Reno Red is darker than Colorado Red. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From: I Erbs [mailto:eyera3 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:35 PM To: John Sims Cc: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW I see from the chart http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm that there were a number of reds. which one was used on an early BT7 and does anyone have color samples for me to look at? never cease to be amazed at what info is now available so easily from this list.... Thanks On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 3:24 PM, John Sims wrote: Actually, Coloramic holds the copywrite for the Pikovnik book. Think that they are one and the same. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Nov 21 21:07:14 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:07:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Relay/3rd Brake Light Troubles In-Reply-To: <161975.93246.qm@web112010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <161975.93246.qm@web112010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <06da01ca6b29$463833c0$d2a89b40$@net> See: http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Modifications%20to%20Healey%20wiring.pdf for the way I did it. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john close Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:38 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Brake Relay/3rd Brake Light Troubles Hi Guys - Recently was rear-ended. I have a good body shop, and they did a great job on the bodywork and paint, As I left the car off, though, I said to myself, "bet they'll screw up the wiring." Well, they did, along with buggering up the fuel sender, which is the easy part to fix. I don't know why they couldn't just hook it as I had it labeled, but they didn't like the relay and took it out. Then they did a half-assed job of re-wiring it. Ya, I know, take it back, but are you kidding? They did enough damage already. Anyhow, I spent a frustrating day trying to put things back in order, but it's still FUBAR. I think I can end my troubles by... getting drunk - naah just kidding - I'd never do that... No,I think it's where to connect the wire from the flasher relay box, terminal 5. I don't know where that sucker would go. Please send help, Relay Experts. - Thanks - JRC Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sat Nov 21 21:19:04 2009 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Exhaust_hanger_in_compression?= Message-ID: <20091122041904.8801.qmail@hoster902.com> Following up on some ideas expressed here, I redid my broken exhaust hangers today. The rear one I changed to act in compression rather than tension, in order to provide additional safety in the event of rubber failure. Pic at: http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/image/119598505 -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA BN6 From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Nov 21 21:29:05 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:29:05 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] tranny tunnel arm rest pattern Message-ID: <173126440911212029q7f478d4bu46ccb5d8a20cc09d@mail.gmail.com> Hey, Anyone have a pattern to make a center armrest? I'd like to have one made for my BT7 side shift. Thanks -- I Erbs Portland, OR From jtrifari at comcast.net Sat Nov 21 21:53:24 2009 From: jtrifari at comcast.net (John Trifari) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:53:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Relay/3rd Brake Light Troubles In-Reply-To: <06da01ca6b29$463833c0$d2a89b40$@net> References: <161975.93246.qm@web112010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <06da01ca6b29$463833c0$d2a89b40$@net> Message-ID: <000101ca6b2f$b942fb10$2bc8f130$@net> A better way to do this on cars with relays is to use an AND gate (also called a logic circuit). There are two inputs and one output. Inputs connect to the brake lamp leads at the rear lights. Output feeds to the third brake light. The brake light goes on only when you have two inputs (ie from both brake lamps), eliminating the problem of a flashing brake light when you use the directionals. Advantages: You are running wires in the trunk--no need to run a wire off the relay and back to the rear end. I got the logic circuit for my set up on the BN1 from JC Whitney (part number XM 138974--$6.49). It's about 2x2x1 inches and fits easily in the trunk. John Trifari Golden Gate Austin Healey Club ay -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:07 PM To: 'john close'; 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Relay/3rd Brake Light Troubles See: http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Modifications%20to%20Healey%20wiring.pdf for the way I did it. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john close Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:38 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Brake Relay/3rd Brake Light Troubles Hi Guys - Recently was rear-ended. I have a good body shop, and they did a great job on the bodywork and paint, As I left the car off, though, I said to myself, "bet they'll screw up the wiring." Well, they did, along with buggering up the fuel sender, which is the easy part to fix. I don't know why they couldn't just hook it as I had it labeled, but they didn't like the relay and took it out. Then they did a half-assed job of re-wiring it. Ya, I know, take it back, but are you kidding? They did enough damage already. Anyhow, I spent a frustrating day trying to put things back in order, but it's still FUBAR. I think I can end my troubles by... getting drunk - naah just kidding - I'd never do that... No,I think it's where to connect the wire from the flasher relay box, terminal 5. I don't know where that sucker would go. Please send help, Relay Experts. - Thanks - JRC Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jtrifari at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive From f9cougar at yahoo.com Sat Nov 21 22:58:54 2009 From: f9cougar at yahoo.com (john close) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:58:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Relay/3rd Brake Light Message-ID: <480670.98396.qm@web112019.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi again - I didn't make my sitch clear enough. In order to have brighter brake lights, I have an additional relay in the trunk which is powered directly from the battery. I need advice on how to wire that to brake lights ,3rd brake light and the front flasher box. Can anyone help? Maybe send a diagram? - Thanks - JRC From info at atteanlodge.com Sun Nov 22 09:22:46 2009 From: info at atteanlodge.com (Attean Lake Lodge) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:22:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] wiring problem solved Message-ID: Many thanks to all who responded to the problem I was having with the black/white wire coming from the trunk switch, I did disconnect the wire but I still was not getting current to the coil thru the white ignition wire, I assumed it was the starter switch but that checked out O.K. After a few hours of checking and re-checking my connections I simply ran a jumper wire from the switch to the coil and voila! My healey roared to life for the first time I have owned it and the first time in over 30 years, a little tuning is now in order to be expected. Keep in mind that the wiring loom is brand new but that white ignition wire has no connectivity. Brad Holden BJ8 in Jackman, Maine From ampole at hotmail.com Sun Nov 22 10:30:19 2009 From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:30:19 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] wiring problem solved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brad Did you by any chance change to negative earth and have your tacho rebuilt (probably a rvi or electronic conversion instead of the looped wire)? Andy _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Sun Nov 22 13:29:21 2009 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:29:21 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Mount Message-ID: I need to buy a good, used "Frame Mounting Bracket" (Moss Term) for a 3000 engine.. This is the part of the engine mount that bolts to the frame. One of mine is missing one of the reinforcing plates that goes up the inside and under the bottom. See Item # 117 on page 10 of the Moss catalog. John Snyder 1959 BN7 From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Sun Nov 22 13:33:19 2009 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:33:19 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Engine Mount Message-ID: <352AF24D5F4A4B68B08A6386F0E061B1@FRED> Sorry, I used a wrong word in part description. It should read FRONT Mounting Bracket. John Snyder ----- Original Message ----- From: John Snyder To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: Engine Mount I need to buy a good, used "Frame Mounting Bracket" (Moss Term) for a 3000 engine.. This is the part of the engine mount that bolts to the frame. One of mine is missing one of the reinforcing plates that goes up the inside and under the bottom. See Item # 117 on page 10 of the Moss catalog. John Snyder 1959 BN7 From ekiessling at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 22 15:42:58 2009 From: ekiessling at sbcglobal.net (edward kiessling) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:42:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] thank you Message-ID: <671071.53621.qm@web180115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Heather - So good to hear from you and oh my God Jaci or how ever she spells her new name did email me, I was blown over. Now if you could just visit Kuzia.............only kidding, so glad you were able to visit Jackie and so excited to hear that you were at the RED CARPET as Todd's show won an emmy. Dying for more details. Martha, Pat and I spent a week-end in VT two weeks ago, and had such a great time enjoying old stories. I did see Sue Tooley a couple of weeks ago as she was visiting her daughter Diane who has moved back to NY. Spent the day in Stamford with three grands at the pre-Thanksgiving day parade. Really nice and such a beautifuol sunny day, they loved it. All is well here, still working my a-- off but think the end is near. Ready to go parttime and not an option where I am, but I do enjoy having benefits which all dry up when I leave. Best wishes for a Happy Thanksgiving and do keep in touch. Have you seen Arlene lately? XXOO Elissa From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sun Nov 22 16:42:00 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:42:00 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Engine block drain tap. Message-ID: <000001ca6bcd$637bb5c0$2a732140$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Hi, I'm still taking advantage of the increased access to the front areas of my MkII BT7 whilst the grille, radiator etc etc is out. Now I'm thinking ahead to when I refill and flush the system. Flushing, I suppose, must work best if one can open and close the drain tap on the block?? (The one under the manifolds). I can get at it from the front. Not 100% easily, but OK by Healey standards. Underneath would be tricky unless I can get the car up a good bit higher. I grabbed the brass lever, with my hand, and it sheared off at once. Before I'd even put the slightest pressure on it. Almost like it had been super glued on. The situation is plainly not irretrievable....it's shut and it doesn't leak. But I would like to fix it. I've fixed up the radiator valve/tap and the heater one likewise. This one appears to screw straight into the block and not to want to screw straight out again, albeit nearly 50 yrs later! How to get it out? I put a nice long spanner on it and I could feel the brass burring before I put much leverage on it. I'd not have thought that heat's an option with the fuel and brake lines so close. In fact, I'm ruling it out here and now. Penetrating oil and more work with the spanner? I haven't looked closely at it just now....but has anyone tried taking the cone shaped tap part out of the valve body and then sliding a long socket onto the hex(?) section? That would be very fiddly....getting the split pin out would be hell. I'd most likely file it flush on both sides and keeping tapping until it popped through the washer. But an awful prospect. Or, what else have you done that might work for me? (I've got 6 branch pipes that sweep backwards so I think I may have more access than some of you may have experienced). Simon From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Nov 22 16:53:54 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:53:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW References: <751d05480911130841r202000b6ibf84da8e9439b151@mail.gmail.com><1835312991.2290851258132333914.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><06ca01ca6b01$b76a3250$263e96f0$@net><173126440911211834w76f2d2d0t31efc1ae785676cc@mail.gmail.com> <06d501ca6b29$0038e400$00aaac00$@net> Message-ID: To answer Ira's original question, his BT7 would use Colorado Red. Reno Red began late '55 on BN2's and ran to the end of BN2 production in summer '56, Reno Red was not a 6 cylinder colour. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sims" To: "'I Erbs'" Cc: "'Healeys'" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW > According to the Pikovnik book there were two reds - Colorado Red RD.02 > (ICI > - 3742) and Reno Red (RD.14 ICI - 3000) Reno Red is darker than Colorado > Red. > > > > John Sims, BN6 > > Aberdeen, NJ > > > > http://www.healey6.com > > > > From: I Erbs [mailto:eyera3 at gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:35 PM > To: John Sims > Cc: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ivory White vs OEW > > > > I see from the chart http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm > that there were a number of reds. which one was used on an early BT7 and > does anyone have color samples for me to look at? > > never cease to be amazed at what info is now available so easily from this > list.... > Thanks > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 3:24 PM, John Sims wrote: > > Actually, Coloramic holds the copywrite for the Pikovnik book. Think that > they are one and the same. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Nov 22 17:10:41 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:10:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] thank you Message-ID: <20091122.161059.7689.24066@mailpop09.dca.untd.com> ????????????????????????????????? > Heather - So good to hear from you and oh my God Jaci or how ever she > spells > her new name did email me, I was blown over. Now if you could just > visit > Kuzia.............only kidding, so glad you were able to visit > Jackie and so > excited to hear that you were at the RED CARPET as Todd's show won > an emmy. > Dying for more details. Martha, Pat and I spent a week-end in VT > two weeks > ago, and had such a great time enjoying old stories. I did see Sue > Tooley a > couple of weeks ago as she was visiting her daughter Diane who has > moved back > to NY. > Spent the day in Stamford with three grands at the pre-Thanksgiving > day > parade. Really nice and such a beautifuol sunny day, they loved > it. > All is > well here, still working my a-- off but think the end is near. > Ready to go > parttime and not an option where I am, but I do enjoy having > benefits which > all dry up when I leave. Best wishes for a Happy Thanksgiving and > do keep in > touch. Have you seen Arlene lately? XXOO Elissa > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dwflagg at juno.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > ____________________________________________________________ Online Doctorate Degrees Find leading online Phd programs. Study anywhere anytime. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=3fnf17EynBZaL2LHKABoggAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAADp7tT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaUcwAAAAA= From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 17:50:21 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:50:21 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust hanger in compression In-Reply-To: <20091122041904.8801.qmail@hoster902.com> References: <20091122041904.8801.qmail@hoster902.com> Message-ID: Shhh don't show this pic to the concours folks!! I like your set up though, quite smart. The BJ8 system is really heavy, I've found just using Exhaust hanger straps works the best with it. On my BN1 the exhaust is light enough, the original set up seems to hold up ok.... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Steve B. Gerow wrote: > Following up on some ideas expressed here, I redid my broken exhaust > hangers today. The rear one I changed to act in compression rather than > tension, in order to provide additional safety in the event of rubber > failure. > > Pic at: http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/image/119598505 > > > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena, CA > BN6 From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Nov 22 17:53:33 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:53:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] thank you Message-ID: <20091122.165413.8544.24077@mailpop08.dca.untd.com> ????????????????????????????????? > > > Heather - So good to hear from you and oh my God Jaci or how ever > she > > spells > > her new name did email me, I was blown over. Now if you could > just > > visit > > Kuzia.............only kidding, so glad you were able to visit > > Jackie and so > > excited to hear that you were at the RED CARPET as Todd's show won > > > an emmy. > > Dying for more details. Martha, Pat and I spent a week-end in VT > > > two weeks > > ago, and had such a great time enjoying old stories. I did see > Sue > > Tooley a > > couple of weeks ago as she was visiting her daughter Diane who has > > > moved back > > to NY. > > Spent the day in Stamford with three grands at the > pre-Thanksgiving > > day > > parade. Really nice and such a beautifuol sunny day, they loved > > it. > > All is > > well here, still working my a-- off but think the end is near. > > Ready to go > > parttime and not an option where I am, but I do enjoy having > > benefits which > > all dry up when I leave. Best wishes for a Happy Thanksgiving and > > > do keep in > > touch. Have you seen Arlene lately? XXOO Elissa > > _______________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Manufacturer-Direct Hardwood Floors Never pay retail again. Wholesale prices on all hardwood floors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=xc4i8WhHW4nDKwxmuCafoQAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAK196D4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANldAAAAAA= From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 18:20:41 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:20:41 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] thank you In-Reply-To: <20091122.161059.7689.24066@mailpop09.dca.untd.com> References: <20091122.161059.7689.24066@mailpop09.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Doug - Heather and Healey both start with Hea... so probably wrote this in the "To" field when writing the email and hit return too early! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:10 AM, dwflagg wrote: > ????????????????????????????????? > > > Heather - So good to hear from you and oh my God Jaci or how ever she > > spells > > her new name did email me, I was blown over. Now if you could just > > visit > > Kuzia.............only kidding, so glad you were able to visit > > Jackie and so > > excited to hear that you were at the RED CARPET as Todd's show won > > an emmy. > > Dying for more details. Martha, Pat and I spent a week-end in VT > > two weeks > > ago, and had such a great time enjoying old stories. I did see Sue > > Tooley a > > couple of weeks ago as she was visiting her daughter Diane who has > > moved back > > to NY. > > Spent the day in Stamford with three grands at the pre-Thanksgiving > > day > > parade. Really nice and such a beautifuol sunny day, they loved > > it. > > All is > > well here, still working my a-- off but think the end is near. > > Ready to go > > parttime and not an option where I am, but I do enjoy having > > benefits which > > all dry up when I leave. Best wishes for a Happy Thanksgiving and > > do keep in > > touch. Have you seen Arlene lately? XXOO Elissa From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sun Nov 22 19:11:45 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:11:45 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] trailering a Healey Message-ID: I just rented a U-Haul trailer to take my BJ8 to the beauty shop and found the wheel base too narrow for the trailer. The trailer might work (tight) but the ramp is too far apart for safety. The ramp is 48 inches form inside to inside and the Healey measures 43 inches inside to inside. Has anyone else had this problem and if so how did you solve it. The trailer is sitting in front of my ho;use costing me money and I am suppose to have it at the shop tomorrow. Thanks in advance Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From cbaustin at verizon.net Sun Nov 22 19:18:04 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:18:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] thank you References: <671071.53621.qm@web180115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6BC644782FD4421BA110870B2787001A@universal1> Arlene, Arlene, Oh, the last time I saw Arlene she was looking for the proper colour-code for OEW and, driving her 'M' to Le Mans to see "LeMans" Luv-Ya, CB. From csooch1 at aol.com Sun Nov 22 20:14:01 2009 From: csooch1 at aol.com (Chris Masucci) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:14:01 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] thank you In-Reply-To: References: <20091122.161059.7689.24066@mailpop09.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <7926F95263E045EBA0508CDD6B1F4E03@ChrisPC> This thread is worthless without pics. :-) -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:21 PM To: dwflagg Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] thank you Doug - Heather and Healey both start with Hea... so probably wrote this in the "To" field when writing the email and hit return too early! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:10 AM, dwflagg wrote: > ????????????????????????????????? > > > Heather - So good to hear from you and oh my God Jaci or how ever > > she spells > > her new name did email me, I was blown over. Now if you could just > > visit > > Kuzia.............only kidding, so glad you were able to visit > > Jackie and so excited to hear that you were at the RED CARPET as > > Todd's show won an emmy. > > Dying for more details. Martha, Pat and I spent a week-end in VT > > two weeks ago, and had such a great time enjoying old stories. I > > did see Sue Tooley a couple of weeks ago as she was visiting her > > daughter Diane who has moved back to NY. > > Spent the day in Stamford with three grands at the pre-Thanksgiving > > day parade. Really nice and such a beautifuol sunny day, they loved > > it. > > All is > > well here, still working my a-- off but think the end is near. > > Ready to go > > parttime and not an option where I am, but I do enjoy having > > benefits which all dry up when I leave. Best wishes for a Happy > > Thanksgiving and do keep in touch. Have you seen Arlene lately? > > XXOO Elissa Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as chris.masucci at alumni.rutgers.edu http://www.team.net/archive From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 23:01:39 2009 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:01:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] trailering a Healey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <471534970911222201x740b6f51wefe508a9a8d742cd@mail.gmail.com> You have to use the Uhaul tow dolly. I'm suprised they let you take the trailer, they know it's too wide. Jody On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > I just rented a U-Haul trailer to take my BJ8 to the beauty shop and found the > wheel base too narrow for the trailer. The trailer might work (tight) but the > ramp is too far apart for safety. The ramp is 48 inches form inside to inside > and the Healey measures 43 inches inside to inside. Has anyone else had this > problem and if so how did you solve it. The trailer is sitting in front of my > ho;use costing me money and I am suppose to have it at the shop tomorrow. > Thanks in advance > Rich Kahn > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT > AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jodyfkerr at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 23 02:35:40 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:35:40 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Exhaust hanger in compression In-Reply-To: References: <20091122041904.8801.qmail@hoster902.com> Message-ID: <4B0A576C.9030708@chello.nl> This is a far better construction than the rubber in tension. However if you move the bracketery to the rear edge of the floor pan, you can make the brackets simpler and with much more space to work on, L bracket to the vertical part, U bracket to the exhaust pipe with the rubber in between. You would also have more space for the exhaust pipe to move about. Kees Oudesluijs NL > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Steve B. Gerow wrote: > > >> Following up on some ideas expressed here, I redid my broken exhaust >> hangers today. The rear one I changed to act in compression rather than >> tension, in order to provide additional safety in the event of rubber >> failure. >> >> Pic at: http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/image/119598505 >> >> >> -- >> Steve Gerow >> Pasadena, CA From gmuttart at eastlink.ca Mon Nov 23 04:41:34 2009 From: gmuttart at eastlink.ca (Geoff Muttart) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:41:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] trailering a Healey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <437592C8515D47FCA1AE58C539CB1C89@FAMILY> FWIW, I successfully trailered a 100-6 with a U-Haul trailer about 6-7 years ago. Perhaps U-Haul has changed the design of its trailers? Geoff Muttart BN4 AN5 Nova Scotia, Canada From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Mon Nov 23 06:29:15 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:29:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red Message-ID: The Original Austin Healey restorer's guide to 100, 100-6, and 3000 by Anders Ditlev Clausager on page 92 under colour schemes it states: some early Longbridge 100-6's were finished in Reno Red. Is this incorrect? "To answer Ira's original question, his BT7 would use Colorado Red. Reno Red began late '55 on BN2's and ran to the end of BN2 production in summer '56, Reno Red was not a 6 cylinder colour. Rich Chrysler" The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID2472 7::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Nov 23 07:14:43 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:14:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red References: Message-ID: <5A3E0ED37C624856B630F53D783F3D66@LIFEBOOK> As with most things to do with Austin Healey production, there were a few of the earliest 100/Six cars that were known to have gone through to likely just use up the Reno Red paint. However, Reno Red specifically was not promoted or advertised as being an available colour for the new model. Same with the so called Teal Blue interiors. We know from observation only that this colour slipped through onto the earliest Healey Blue cars , again kilely to se it up (note introductory 100/Six brochure of the duotone Healey Blue/Old English White car showing edges of light blue trimming) However it was not specified, and the interior colour was simply listed as "blue trim". When it was gone, it was gone and dark blue carried on for the trim colour. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "S and T Miller" To: Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:29 AM Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red > The Original Austin Healey restorer's guide to 100, 100-6, and 3000 by > Anders > Ditlev Clausager on page 92 under colour schemes it states: some early > Longbridge 100-6's were finished in Reno Red. Is this incorrect? > > "To answer Ira's original question, his BT7 would use Colorado Red. Reno > Red > began late '55 on BN2's and ran to the end of BN2 production in summer > '56, > Reno Red was not a 6 cylinder colour. > > Rich Chrysler" > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID2472 > 7::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 23 07:16:34 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:16:34 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted Message-ID: Hi! My wife and daughter have been opting out of rides in the convertibles for a number of years now as it messes their hair. My wife has shown a renewed interest with the arrival of the 100, but I'm wondering what kind of head gear the ladies ( young and more mature ) wear to protect their hairdoos from the breeze? Please don't suggest putting the hood up!!! :) Thanks in advance! Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) From steveg at abrazosdata.com Mon Nov 23 07:22:11 2009 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:22:11 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Exhaust_hanger_in_compression?= Message-ID: <20091123142211.4328.qmail@hoster902.com> The problem with the Monza design is it has a single bend-kickup behind the rear axle rather than two as the stock and some others have, reducing clearance and causing scraping, going into driveways. That's why I have it 1/4" from the frame. Can't use more clearance anyway. -- Steve > -------Original Message------- > From: Oudesluys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust hanger in compression > Sent: Nov 23 '09 01:35 > > This is a far better construction than the rubber in tension. However if > you move the bracketery to the rear edge of the floor pan, you can make > the brackets simpler and with much more space to work on, L bracket to > the vertical part, U bracket to the exhaust pipe with the rubber in > between. You would also have more space for the exhaust pipe to move about. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Steve B. Gerow wrote: > > > > > >> Following up on some ideas expressed here, I redid my broken exhaust > >> hangers today. The rear one I changed to act in compression rather than > >> tension, in order to provide additional safety in the event of rubber > >> failure. > >> > >> Pic at: http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/image/119598505 > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Steve Gerow > >> Pasadena, CA > >> From Edward.Santoro at drbc.state.nj.us Mon Nov 23 07:42:41 2009 From: Edward.Santoro at drbc.state.nj.us (Ed Santoro) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:42:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B0A9F61.7030000@drbc.state.nj.us> No it is correct. I have a 57 1006 that was originally done, and still is... in reno red. EDS S and T Miller wrote: > The Original Austin Healey restorer's guide to 100, 100-6, and 3000 by Anders > Ditlev Clausager on page 92 under colour schemes it states: some early > Longbridge 100-6's were finished in Reno Red. Is this incorrect? > > "To answer Ira's original question, his BT7 would use Colorado Red. Reno Red > began late '55 on BN2's and ran to the end of BN2 production in summer '56, > Reno Red was not a 6 cylinder colour. > > Rich Chrysler" > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID2472 > 7::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as edward.santoro at drbc.state.nj.us > > http://www.team.net/archive From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Mon Nov 23 07:54:38 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:54:38 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] trailering a Healey In-Reply-To: <437592C8515D47FCA1AE58C539CB1C89@FAMILY> References: , <437592C8515D47FCA1AE58C539CB1C89@FAMILY> Message-ID: The story I got is that they have, indeed, gone to larger trailers. (What will they do with the new smart cars?) They are trying to locate an older smaller one. AAA suggested I upgrade to the next level and get 100 miles per incident coverage on a flat bed. I currently get 5 miles of free towing and $10 per mile over. At 65 miles each way that's $1200 round trip! > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:41:34 -0400 > From: gmuttart at eastlink.ca > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] trailering a Healey > > FWIW, I successfully trailered a 100-6 with a U-Haul trailer about 6-7 years > ago. > > Perhaps U-Haul has changed the design of its trailers? > > Geoff Muttart > BN4 > AN5 > Nova Scotia, Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 08:49:31 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:49:31 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <173126440911230749v23617e27m8cb6a802b141df42@mail.gmail.com> How about puting a hood on. That way their hair will be safe and peole will wonder who's driving with you :) My wife has reallylong hair and just ties it back and put son a ball cap. Sorry no other advise.... Ira On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:16 AM, wrote: > Hi! > > > > My wife and daughter have been opting out of rides in the convertibles for > a > number of years now as it messes their hair. > > > > My wife has shown a renewed interest with the arrival of the 100, but I'm > wondering what kind of head gear the ladies ( young and more mature ) wear > to > protect their hairdoos from the breeze? > > > > Please don't suggest putting the hood up!!! :) > > > Thanks in advance! > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From mgcharlie at comcast.net Mon Nov 23 09:18:50 2009 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:18:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B0AB5EA.8060203@comcast.net> My wife doesn't care so much about messing up her hair as its whipping around in the wind and stinging her face. No matter what she does, some strands come loose and get her. I saw one woman stuffing her hair into one of those leather flying caps that even had the goggles and kidded my wife about getting a get-up like that. She wasn't impressed. In cooler weather she wears a jacket that has a hood that can be tied around her hear, which does the job. It looks kind of silly though and would not work when it is hot. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Charlie robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > Hi! > > > > My wife and daughter have been opting out of rides in the convertibles for a > number of years now as it messes their hair. > > > > My wife has shown a renewed interest with the arrival of the 100, but I'm > wondering what kind of head gear the ladies ( young and more mature ) wear to > protect their hairdoos from the breeze? > > > > Please don't suggest putting the hood up!!! :) > > > Thanks in advance! > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 09:18:39 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:18:39 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] trailering a Healey In-Reply-To: References: <437592C8515D47FCA1AE58C539CB1C89@FAMILY> Message-ID: <173126440911230818y46176f9ck609e729cde0360f7@mail.gmail.com> I have the upgraded AAA coverage fro exactly that reason, Flat bed tow and 100 mile range. I typically don't driv emy car ery far anyway. Although when I get done with the restoration, my wife and I are going on a road trip this summer..... On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Richard Kahn wrote: > The story I got is that they have, indeed, gone to larger trailers. (What > will > they do with the new smart cars?) They are trying to locate an older > smaller > one. AAA suggested I upgrade to the next level and get 100 miles per > incident > coverage on a flat bed. I currently get 5 miles of free towing and $10 per > mile over. At 65 miles each way that's $1200 round trip! > > > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:41:34 -0400 > > From: gmuttart at eastlink.ca > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Healeys] trailering a Healey > > > > FWIW, I successfully trailered a 100-6 with a U-Haul trailer about 6-7 > years > > ago. > > > > Perhaps U-Haul has changed the design of its trailers? > > > > Geoff Muttart > > BN4 > > AN5 > > Nova Scotia, Canada > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. > > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M > FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 23 09:32:40 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:32:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Mount In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17D37D54-95C0-4516-AA03-CF693231B6F6@sbcglobal.net> John, we have all the used brackets, I would need to know what year car and either left or right. The later cars were sided. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:29 PM, John Snyder wrote: > I need to buy a good, used "Frame Mounting Bracket" (Moss Term) for > a 3000 > engine.. This is the part of the engine mount that bolts to the > frame. One > of mine is missing one of the reinforcing plates that goes up the > inside and > under the bottom. See Item # 117 on page 10 of the Moss catalog. > > John Snyder > 1959 BN7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 09:47:06 2009 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:47:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: <173126440911230749v23617e27m8cb6a802b141df42@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911230749v23617e27m8cb6a802b141df42@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <471534970911230847i6b2a4a78v91fd47e9bf44c0ab@mail.gmail.com> My wife really likes the Jackie O look. Scarf and big glasses... makes her feel glamorous (until she looks at the clod sitting next to her. :) Jody On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:49 AM, I Erbs wrote: > How about puting a hood on. That way their hair will be safe and peole will > wonder who's driving with you :) > My wife has reallylong hair and just ties it back and put son a ball cap. > Sorry no other advise.... > Ira > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:16 AM, wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> >> >> My wife and daughter have been opting out of rides in the convertibles for >> a >> number of years now as it messes their hair. >> >> >> >> My wife has shown a renewed interest with the arrival of the 100, but I'm >> wondering what kind of head gear the ladies ( young and more mature ) wear >> to >> protect their hairdoos from the breeze? >> >> >> >> Please don't suggest putting the hood up!!! :) >> >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> >> Robert Duquette >> Ottawa ON Canada >> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) >> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) >> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > > > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jodyfkerr at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Mon Nov 23 10:30:53 2009 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:30:53 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Classic Collectables Company - Message-ID: Listers: Do any of you know if Classic Collectables that was closed when Lynn retired has been reopened or taken over by anyone. When I last spoke to him he had given me the name of Jim Daniels and a phone number but cannot get any response when I called the number. Jean Caron Vintage Roadster Restoration _________________________________________________________________ Eligible CDN College & University students can upgrade to Windows 7 before Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691819 From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Nov 23 10:52:52 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:52:52 EST Subject: [Healeys] Hairdos and Healeys Message-ID: In a message dated 11/23/09 9:34:31 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > My wife has shown a renewed interest with the arrival of the 100, but I'm > >> wondering what kind of head gear the ladies ( young and more mature ) > wear > >> to > >> protect their hairdoos from the breeze? > Or do the Audrey Hepburn/Grace Kelly trick. Put the scarf over the hair and then wrap the ends back around the neck to tie behind, forming a sort of silk flying-helmet look. Put on a BIG pair of sunglasses (oh, so chic today) to complete the look (and protect the eyes) and she'll be stylin'. Gary From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Nov 23 11:33:07 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:33:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: <471534970911230847i6b2a4a78v91fd47e9bf44c0ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911230749v23617e27m8cb6a802b141df42@mail.gmail.com> <471534970911230847i6b2a4a78v91fd47e9bf44c0ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <087d01ca6c6b$678a5560$369f0020$@net> Hey, you gotta be better looking than Jackie O's second husband (but he does look better when you realize how much money he had) John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jody Kerr Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:47 AM To: I Erbs Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted My wife really likes the Jackie O look. Scarf and big glasses... makes her feel glamorous (until she looks at the clod sitting next to her. :) Jody On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:49 AM, I Erbs wrote: > How about puting a hood on. That way their hair will be safe and peole will > wonder who's driving with you :) > My wife has reallylong hair and just ties it back and put son a ball cap. > Sorry no other advise.... > Ira > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:16 AM, wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> >> >> My wife and daughter have been opting out of rides in the convertibles for >> a >> number of years now as it messes their hair. >> >> >> >> My wife has shown a renewed interest with the arrival of the 100, but I'm >> wondering what kind of head gear the ladies ( young and more mature ) wear >> to >> protect their hairdoos from the breeze? >> >> >> >> Please don't suggest putting the hood up!!! :) >> >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> >> Robert Duquette >> Ottawa ON Canada >> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) >> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) >> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > > > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jodyfkerr at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Nov 23 11:36:32 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:36:32 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Classic Collectables Company - In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <087e01ca6c6b$e1868370$a4938a50$@net> Their web site http://www.ahealey.com/ indicates that they are still closed. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jean Caron Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:31 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Classic Collectables Company - Listers: Do any of you know if Classic Collectables that was closed when Lynn retired has been reopened or taken over by anyone. When I last spoke to him he had given me the name of Jim Daniels and a phone number but cannot get any response when I called the number. Jean Caron Vintage Roadster Restoration _________________________________________________________________ Eligible CDN College & University students can upgrade to Windows 7 before Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691819 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive From mandmschneider at comcast.net Mon Nov 23 11:47:41 2009 From: mandmschneider at comcast.net (Mark Schneider) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:47:41 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Transmission Message-ID: <72B56686-5024-4E9C-B023-A8AD568B67C0@comcast.net> Listers, A few months ago I completed a rebuild of the transmission and O/D in my BJ8. Everything from the rear engine plate to the diff was removed, dismantled, inspected, and worn parts replaced. The car has 120 K original miles on it. While it was apart I replaced every bearing throughout the gearbox and O/D, synchro rings, and a worn layshaft. All the gears appeared sound and whole. I also replaced the clutch and U-joints and had the propeller shaft balanced. I now have about 600 miles on the car since re-installing everything. Yesterday on my birthday I went for a little celebratory drive. As I drove I noticed that the gearbox now has a low rattley sounding growl. If I allow my hand to rest on the gear shift lever the sound stops immediately. As soon as I remove any pressure on the lever the sound returns. I welcome any thoughts as to the cause of the sound. Marks 3 '66 BJ8 From frogeye at porterscustom.com Mon Nov 23 12:36:05 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:36:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Transmission In-Reply-To: <72B56686-5024-4E9C-B023-A8AD568B67C0@comcast.net> References: <72B56686-5024-4E9C-B023-A8AD568B67C0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <57167830F7D040CF9D813622730D9F47@oscar> Mark, By applying pressure what you are doing is moving the 3/4th slider forward. So the wild guess is that you have some sort of end float/thrust issue. Unfortunately it could be on the main shaft, the lay gear or the O/D. With the sudden onset, I would guess it is one of the brass thrust washers in the O/D has broken. You might be able to inspect for that by removing the accumulator housing cover. Pretty tight. Maybe brass in the filter plug. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Schneider Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:48 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Transmission Listers, A few months ago I completed a rebuild of the transmission and O/D in my BJ8. Everything from the rear engine plate to the diff was removed, dismantled, inspected, and worn parts replaced. The car has 120 K original miles on it. While it was apart I replaced every bearing throughout the gearbox and O/D, synchro rings, and a worn layshaft. All the gears appeared sound and whole. I also replaced the clutch and U-joints and had the propeller shaft balanced. I now have about 600 miles on the car since re-installing everything. Yesterday on my birthday I went for a little celebratory drive. As I drove I noticed that the gearbox now has a low rattley sounding growl. If I allow my hand to rest on the gear shift lever the sound stops immediately. As soon as I remove any pressure on the lever the sound returns. I welcome any thoughts as to the cause of the sound. Marks 3 '66 BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 13:02:38 2009 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:02:38 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger Message-ID: <48720d20911231202g5d4886aex424930c23ad16d7d@mail.gmail.com> Beware of AAA towing for a Healey. The truck needs boards to make a special ramp,Dragging your car onto a flatbed without them will tear the bottom out. I had a disabled Healey and needed to get it to a body shop. The first truck that came, came with a cleanly uniformed driver and truck who said he had towed antique cars before. He had a collection of wooden pieces and made a ramp so that the Healey went on without scraping the bottom. He even stopped after a mile to make sure that the ties were all tight after moving. For the return trip I asked for the same towing company. First I got cross examined about why, if I had the car in a body shop they couldn't fix it for me so I didn't need towing. I had to put the owner on the phone to assure him that he couldn't fix it. Eventually, I got some character who came in a rusty truck, and his clothes weren't much better (but then my wife will say mine are not much better either). He lined the truck up and was about to drag the car onto the flatbed when I sent him away. (I can imagine him saying that the damage he caused was already there). When I called AAA, I asked why they did not use the company that I asked for, they said that towing was only by the nearest company, and I couldn't request a specific company. I got them to get the towing company that I wanted. The same driver came to get my car, and said that when AAA called his company, they tried to get them to lower their rate for towing me. AAA is cheap, and doesn't really care about your car. *Be sure the person who puts it on a flatbed knows what he is doing. * I like the maps, and didn't want to confuse my wife about who to call, so I canceled the 100+ towing (they refused to refund at first, and I had to write a letter. I got a call with someone giving me a hard sell about keeping the extra towing). I now have Hagerty 100+ towing which covers all my cars, even the US ones. BEWARE OF AAA! They are more interested in selling you insurance and booking trips than servicing your special needs.. Jack From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 23 13:35:52 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:35:52 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091123143552.VTGD3.1012236.root@ispmxfep11-z02> Mine--absolutely nothing. She won't ride in it UNLESS the top is down. tom ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: ============= Hi! My wife and daughter have been opting out of rides in the convertibles for a number of years now as it messes their hair. My wife has shown a renewed interest with the arrival of the 100, but I'm wondering what kind of head gear the ladies ( young and more mature ) wear to protect their hairdoos from the breeze? Please don't suggest putting the hood up!!! :) Thanks in advance! Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From haywoodone at hotmail.com Mon Nov 23 14:30:43 2009 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:30:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] trailering a Healey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Rich, I too had no problem with the U-Haul trailer about three years ago, they obviously have changed since then. Is your engine out and is the car pretty much stripped down? If so the body is not very heavy and will go easily on a single axle (but preferably double axle) utility trailer-the ones that all the lawn services use for their mowers with 2X6 or 2X8 wooden floors. You just have to figure out how to get it loaded. Take care and good luck with it, George Haywood '65 bj8 > From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:11:45 -0800 > Subject: [Healeys] trailering a Healey > > I just rented a U-Haul trailer to take my BJ8 to the beauty shop and found the > wheel base too narrow for the trailer. The trailer might work (tight) but the > ramp is too far apart for safety. The ramp is 48 inches form inside to inside > and the Healey measures 43 inches inside to inside. Has anyone else had this > problem and if so how did you solve it. The trailer is sitting in front of my > ho;use costing me money and I am suppose to have it at the shop tomorrow. > Thanks in advance > Rich Kahn > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT > AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as haywoodone at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. From britishcars at shaw.ca Mon Nov 23 15:22:31 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:22:31 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Transmission In-Reply-To: <57167830F7D040CF9D813622730D9F47@oscar> Message-ID: <7v49g6$6huaou@pd2mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca> The Brass Thrust Washers are a weak point in the OD and are often broken....however, not sure if that would cause the noise. My transmission had a broken brass ring but did not have the rattling noise. What Gear does it rattle in? I wonder if the brass fork is worn such that it does not fully engage? Does it ever pop out of gear? -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Porter Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:36 AM To: 'Mark Schneider'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Transmission Mark, By applying pressure what you are doing is moving the 3/4th slider forward. So the wild guess is that you have some sort of end float/thrust issue. Unfortunately it could be on the main shaft, the lay gear or the O/D. With the sudden onset, I would guess it is one of the brass thrust washers in the O/D has broken. You might be able to inspect for that by removing the accumulator housing cover. Pretty tight. Maybe brass in the filter plug. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Schneider Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:48 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Transmission Listers, A few months ago I completed a rebuild of the transmission and O/D in my BJ8. Everything from the rear engine plate to the diff was removed, dismantled, inspected, and worn parts replaced. The car has 120 K original miles on it. While it was apart I replaced every bearing throughout the gearbox and O/D, synchro rings, and a worn layshaft. All the gears appeared sound and whole. I also replaced the clutch and U-joints and had the propeller shaft balanced. I now have about 600 miles on the car since re-installing everything. Yesterday on my birthday I went for a little celebratory drive. As I drove I noticed that the gearbox now has a low rattley sounding growl. If I allow my hand to rest on the gear shift lever the sound stops immediately. As soon as I remove any pressure on the lever the sound returns. I welcome any thoughts as to the cause of the sound. Marks 3 '66 BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as britishcars at shaw.ca http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 15:45:33 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:45:33 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: <20091123143552.VTGD3.1012236.root@ispmxfep11-z02> References: <20091123143552.VTGD3.1012236.root@ispmxfep11-z02> Message-ID: Tom - Your wife wears absolutely nothing? Can you send pics? ;) On 11/24/09, Tom Felts wrote: > Mine--absolutely nothing. She won't ride in it UNLESS the top is down. > > tom > > ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > > ============= > Hi! > > > > My wife and daughter have been opting out of rides in the convertibles for a > number of years now as it messes their hair. > > > > My wife has shown a renewed interest with the arrival of the 100, but I'm > wondering what kind of head gear the ladies ( young and more mature ) wear > to > protect their hairdoos from the breeze? > > > > Please don't suggest putting the hood up!!! :) > > > Thanks in advance! > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 16:07:54 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:07:54 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: References: <20091123143552.VTGD3.1012236.root@ispmxfep11-z02> Message-ID: <173126440911231507h3583f06cq9ff89ce203226a1e@mail.gmail.com> must live in a warm climate On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Tom - > > Your wife wears absolutely nothing? Can you send pics? ;) > > On 11/24/09, Tom Felts wrote: > > Mine--absolutely nothing. She won't ride in it UNLESS the top is down. > > > > tom > > > > ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > > > > ============= From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 16:23:20 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:23:20 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Transmission In-Reply-To: <72B56686-5024-4E9C-B023-A8AD568B67C0@comcast.net> References: <72B56686-5024-4E9C-B023-A8AD568B67C0@comcast.net> Message-ID: Did you forget to put the three detante springs and balls in? On 11/24/09, Mark Schneider wrote: > Listers, > > A few months ago I completed a rebuild of the transmission and O/D in > my BJ8. Everything from the rear engine plate to the diff was > removed, dismantled, inspected, and worn parts replaced. The car has > 120 K original miles on it. While it was apart I replaced every > bearing throughout the gearbox and O/D, synchro rings, and a worn > layshaft. All the gears appeared sound and whole. I also replaced the > clutch and U-joints and had the propeller shaft balanced. I now have > about 600 miles on the car since re-installing everything. Yesterday > on my birthday I went for a little celebratory drive. As I drove I > noticed that the gearbox now has a low rattley sounding growl. If I > allow my hand to rest on the gear shift lever the sound stops > immediately. As soon as I remove any pressure on the lever the sound > returns. I welcome any thoughts as to the cause of the sound. > > Marks 3 > '66 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Nov 23 16:23:25 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:23:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] A Tribute ... Message-ID: <08c901ca6c93$f50c5960$df250c20$@net> http://www.hummingbirds.net/lucas/index.html Click on the switch twice. Flame away but I could not resist this John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com From glemon at neb.rr.com Mon Nov 23 16:56:36 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:56:36 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: <173126440911231507h3583f06cq9ff89ce203226a1e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091123143552.VTGD3.1012236.root@ispmxfep11-z02> <173126440911231507h3583f06cq9ff89ce203226a1e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <90142D6B2ECA43D6BD6D1FBB06320D07@GregPC> Pony tail? From frogeye at porterscustom.com Mon Nov 23 17:04:09 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:04:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] A Tribute ... In-Reply-To: <08c901ca6c93$f50c5960$df250c20$@net> References: <08c901ca6c93$f50c5960$df250c20$@net> Message-ID: Sound effects are great! dp frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:23 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] A Tribute ... http://www.hummingbirds.net/lucas/index.html Click on the switch twice. Flame away but I could not resist this John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 23 17:03:26 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:03:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091123180326.KYWRH.1016918.root@ispmxfep11-z02> :):):):):):) I sold all the photo's already:) ---- Alan Seigrist wrote: ============= Tom - Your wife wears absolutely nothing? Can you send pics? ;) On 11/24/09, Tom Felts wrote: > Mine--absolutely nothing. She won't ride in it UNLESS the top is down. > > tom > > ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > > ============= > Hi! > > > > My wife and daughter have been opting out of rides in the convertibles for a > number of years now as it messes their hair. > > > > My wife has shown a renewed interest with the arrival of the 100, but I'm > wondering what kind of head gear the ladies ( young and more mature ) wear > to > protect their hairdoos from the breeze? > > > > Please don't suggest putting the hood up!!! :) > > > Thanks in advance! > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 23 17:04:47 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:04:47 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: <173126440911231507h3583f06cq9ff89ce203226a1e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091123180447.7TM1S.1016953.root@ispmxfep11-z02> I have some really "cool" photos:) ---- I Erbs wrote: ============= must live in a warm climate On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Tom - > > Your wife wears absolutely nothing? Can you send pics? ;) > > On 11/24/09, Tom Felts wrote: > > Mine--absolutely nothing. She won't ride in it UNLESS the top is down. > > > > tom > > > > ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > > > > ============= From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 17:17:28 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:17:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] A Tribute ... In-Reply-To: <08c901ca6c93$f50c5960$df250c20$@net> References: <08c901ca6c93$f50c5960$df250c20$@net> Message-ID: <173126440911231617j2c52d922rfb7a60d366778903@mail.gmail.com> lol lol lol lol On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Sims wrote: > http://www.hummingbirds.net/lucas/index.html > > Click on the switch twice. Flame away but I could not resist this > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > www.healey6.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 23 17:20:23 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:20:23 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger References: <48720d20911231202g5d4886aex424930c23ad16d7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000801ca6c9b$ea417710$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> What did Hagerty say when you asked them about using a particular flatbed company when the time comes. Its not uncommon at all for the towing to be handled like AAA did, sorry to say. The closest is the cheapest for them. I have tailored my Healey twice so far and it seems like those flat beds can extend pretty far back to accommodate our low risers. But like everything else there is bound to be different styles out there. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Feldman" To: Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:02 PM Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger > Beware of AAA towing for a Healey. The truck needs boards to make a > special > ramp,Dragging your car onto a flatbed without them will tear the bottom > out. > > > I had a disabled Healey and needed to get it to a body shop. The first > truck > that came, came with a cleanly uniformed driver and truck who said he had > towed antique cars before. He had a collection of wooden pieces and made a > ramp so that the Healey went on without scraping the bottom. He even > stopped > after a mile to make sure that the ties were all tight after moving. > > For the return trip I asked for the same towing company. First I got cross > examined about why, if I had the car in a body shop they couldn't fix it > for > me so I didn't need towing. I had to put the owner on the phone to assure > him that he couldn't fix it. Eventually, I got some character who came in > a > rusty truck, and his clothes weren't much better (but then my wife will > say > mine are not much better either). > > He lined the truck up and was about to drag the car onto the flatbed when > I > sent him away. (I can imagine him saying that the damage he caused was > already there). When I called AAA, I asked why they did not use the > company > that I asked for, they said that towing was only by the nearest company, > and > I couldn't request a specific company. I got them to get the towing > company > that I wanted. The same driver came to get my car, and said that when AAA > called his company, they tried to get them to lower their rate for towing > me. > > AAA is cheap, and doesn't really care about your car. *Be sure the person > who puts it on a flatbed knows what he is doing. > * > I like the maps, and didn't want to confuse my wife about who to call, so > I > canceled the 100+ towing (they refused to refund at first, and I had to > write a letter. I got a call with someone giving me a hard sell about > keeping the extra towing). I now have Hagerty 100+ towing which covers all > my cars, even the US ones. > > BEWARE OF AAA! They are more interested in selling you insurance and > booking > trips than servicing your special needs.. > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Nov 23 18:10:09 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:10:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <80895.82130.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Leather flying helmet and goggles??? --- On Mon, 11/23/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted To: "Healeys" Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 9:16 AM Hi! My wife and daughter have been opting out of rides in the convertibles for a number of years now as it messes their hair. My wife has shown a renewed interest with the arrival of the 100, but I'm wondering what kind of head gear the ladies ( young and more mature ) wear to protect their hairdoos from the breeze? Please don't suggest putting the hood up!!! :) Thanks in advance! Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From mgcharlie at comcast.net Mon Nov 23 18:54:34 2009 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:54:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger In-Reply-To: <000801ca6c9b$ea417710$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <48720d20911231202g5d4886aex424930c23ad16d7d@mail.gmail.com> <000801ca6c9b$ea417710$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <4B0B3CDA.1050009@comcast.net> My experience with a Jerr-Dan has two problems. At the front the chains will come into contact with the front shroud if they are hooked around the bottom spring perch on each side. Using foam rubber pipe insulation over the chains will help to protect it. Better yet, installing towing eyes like Bill Bolton and others supply and pulling on those will not even let them get close. At the rear, the tailpipes (BT7) will scrape and the license plate will get bent unless a ramp is made with 2 x 8's or 10's to raise the rear a bit right before it hits the aluminum bed. The more laden they are with drive train and such, the more they will be a problem. A friend of mine has the Jerr-Dan and has transported several Healeys to and from lister Shawn Miller's shop. Charlie Mark LaPierre wrote: > What did Hagerty say when you asked them about using a particular > flatbed company when the > time comes. Its not uncommon at all for the towing to be handled > like AAA did, sorry to say. > The closest is the cheapest for them. > > I have tailored my Healey twice so far and it seems like those flat > beds can extend pretty > far back to accommodate our low risers. But like everything else > there is bound to be > different styles out there. > > Mark [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From ah3000me at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 18:59:43 2009 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:59:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger In-Reply-To: <48720d20911231202g5d4886aex424930c23ad16d7d@mail.gmail.com> References: <48720d20911231202g5d4886aex424930c23ad16d7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: During the first year I owned my Healey, I had 4 break-downs. The first was about a mile from a shop that repaired classic cars, so I walked back to their shop and called someone that they recommended. They came with boards to keep it from dragging and nylon straps to hold it down. They were a AAA tow company, so they accepted my AAA card to pay for the tow. I called them directly for every tow after, showed them my AAA card and let them bill AAA. So if you have someone you like and they're a AAA tow company, just call them directly. - Tom On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Jack Feldman wrote: > Beware of AAA towing for a Healey. The truck needs boards to make a special > ramp,Dragging your car onto a flatbed without them will tear the bottom out. > > > I had a disabled Healey and needed to get it to a body shop. The first truck > that came, came with a cleanly uniformed driver and truck who said he had > towed antique cars before. He had a collection of wooden pieces and made a > ramp so that the Healey went on without scraping the bottom. He even stopped > after a mile to make sure that the ties were all tight after moving. > > For the return trip I asked for the same towing company. First I got cross > examined about why, if I had the car in a body shop they couldn't fix it for > me so I didn't need towing. I had to put the owner on the phone to assure > him that he couldn't fix it. Eventually, I got some character who came in a > rusty truck, and his clothes weren't much better (but then my wife will say > mine are not much better either). > > He lined the truck up and was about to drag the car onto the flatbed when I > sent him away. (I can imagine him saying that the damage he caused was > already there). When I called AAA, I asked why they did not use the company > that I asked for, they said that towing was only by the nearest company, and > I couldn't request a specific company. I got them to get the towing company > that I wanted. The same driver came to get my car, and said that when AAA > called his company, they tried to get them to lower their rate for towing > me. > > AAA is cheap, and doesn't really care about your car. *Be sure the person > who puts it on a flatbed knows what he is doing. > * > I like the maps, and didn't want to confuse my wife about who to call, so I > canceled the 100+ towing (they refused to refund at first, and I had to > write a letter. I got a call with someone giving me a hard sell about > keeping the extra towing). I now have Hagerty 100+ towing which covers all > my cars, even the US ones. > > BEWARE OF AAA! They are more interested in selling you insurance and booking > trips than servicing your special needs.. > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From neilberg at telus.net Mon Nov 23 21:08:56 2009 From: neilberg at telus.net (Neil Trelenberg) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:08:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger In-Reply-To: References: <48720d20911231202g5d4886aex424930c23ad16d7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I had my Healey trailered with a flat bed by BCAA this spring. I requested a flatbed with a "wagging tail". All their fleet locally here in Vancouver BC are new and have this feature on the back of the beds. What it is: the last 4 or 5 feet of flatbed is on a hydraulic pivot. This allows them to drop or raise the last section so that the car will not drag on anything while being pulled up on the bed. I have "Canadian" towing eyes on the front, a rag was wrapped on the hook and then put into the eye. Nothing on the car touched anything and the paint didn't even get chipped on the towing eyes. They used straps over the tires and even they were pulled on a slight angle so as not to touch the finish. The trip was up and down hills for 25 miles and it came through without a scratch. Also, all it cost me was 25 bucks, I found out later they would waved that if I would have told them it could only be bedded. This is obviously not a new technology if we have it here on the "wet" coast, I'm sure it could be requested elsewhere if necessary.....Neil Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as neilberg at telus.net http://www.team.net/archive From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 21:53:24 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:53:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: <80895.82130.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <80895.82130.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9112 http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9461 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:10 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Leather flying helmet and goggles??? From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 22:31:56 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:31:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: References: <80895.82130.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <173126440911232131j5d3edda8i323b2306de81a372@mail.gmail.com> great site. too bad they don't make prescription goggles my 14 year old son actually wears a similar head cover On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9112 > http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9461 > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:10 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > > > Leather flying helmet and goggles??? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 23:18:22 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:18:22 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Small Parts Rechroming - Shop Advice? Message-ID: All - I have some pot metal pieces from my Atlantic's control head assembly that need rechroming. Anyone have a good recommendation for a shop that will do this properly without grinding down the pot metal on my pieces (it's fairly fragile as you can imagine)? Location really doesn't matter, I'll just UPS it to them. I just need to know who's really good at this type of work. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Mon Nov 23 23:45:31 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:45:31 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Copper washers. Message-ID: <000c01ca6cd1$bac2e560$3048b020$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> I need a copper washer. So, I've got a box of new ones of various sizes. All the wrong sizes. I've got a box of sundry old flat washers amongst which is an old copper washer of the right size. But it's old and has presumably ceased being soft and malleable. I'm not even sure that I can even spell "annealing" at this time of night, but isn't it the process by which one applies heat to restore metal's previous malleability? Do I heat it cherry red and then quench it in water or is it oil or what? It's a lot to ask for one copper washer, but a)my daughter* pinches my daily tintop to go to work so I can't go and buy one and b) I like to know these things. *If she can't use my car, she can't earn enough to buy her own car! I'm going to pay half, but she's got to learn! Simon From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Nov 24 02:28:03 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:28:03 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Copper washers. In-Reply-To: <000c01ca6cd1$bac2e560$3048b020$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <000c01ca6cd1$bac2e560$3048b020$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <4B0BA723.9090907@chello.nl> Simon, Just heat to cherry red and quench it in water. Kees Oudesluijs Simon Lachlan schreef: > I need a copper washer. So, I've got a box of new ones of various sizes. All > the wrong sizes. > I've got a box of sundry old flat washers amongst which is an old copper > washer of the right size. But it's old and has presumably ceased being soft > and malleable. > I'm not even sure that I can even spell "annealing" at this time of night, > but isn't it the process by which one applies heat to restore metal's > previous malleability? Do I heat it cherry red and then quench it in water > or is it oil or what? > > It's a lot to ask for one copper washer, but a)my daughter* pinches my daily > tintop to go to work so I can't go and buy one and b) I like to know these > things. > *If she can't use my car, she can't earn enough to buy her own car! I'm > going to pay half, but she's got to learn! > Simon From jarowe at westnet.com.au Tue Nov 24 04:44:45 2009 From: jarowe at westnet.com.au (John Rowe) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:44:45 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Copper washers. References: <000c01ca6cd1$bac2e560$3048b020$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <44A6A426FBC6441C8DB2A9670C00AFC4@DadDell> Hi Simon Don't quench in water or oil or anything. Quenching makes any metal go hard or brittle etc. To anneal just heat to cherry red and allow to cool in the ambient temperature. It will then become soft and malleable. Trust me, plumbers do that all the time here in WA as the water piping is required to be cold drawn, ie hard and stiff, and to expand the pipe to make a joint the pipe requires annealing. cheers from WA John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Lachlan" To: "'Healeys'" Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:45 PM Subject: [Healeys] Copper washers. >I need a copper washer. So, I've got a box of new ones of various sizes. >All > the wrong sizes. > I've got a box of sundry old flat washers amongst which is an old copper > washer of the right size. But it's old and has presumably ceased being > soft > and malleable. > I'm not even sure that I can even spell "annealing" at this time of night, > but isn't it the process by which one applies heat to restore metal's > previous malleability? Do I heat it cherry red and then quench it in water > or is it oil or what? > > It's a lot to ask for one copper washer, but a)my daughter* pinches my > daily > tintop to go to work so I can't go and buy one and b) I like to know these > things. > *If she can't use my car, she can't earn enough to buy her own car! I'm > going to pay half, but she's got to learn! > Simon From flyhihealey at hotmail.com Tue Nov 24 05:23:00 2009 From: flyhihealey at hotmail.com (Warren Dietz) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:23:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Copper washers Message-ID: Simon, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jSz11lz8MA I need a copper washer. So, I've got a box of new ones of various sizes. All the wrong sizes. I've got a box of sundry old flat washers amongst which is an old copper washer of the right size. But it's old and has presumably ceased being soft and malleable. I'm not even sure that I can even spell "annealing" at this time of night, but isn't it the process by which one applies heat to restore metal's previous malleability? Do I heat it cherry red and then quench it in water or is it oil or what? _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID2472 7::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Nov 24 05:50:46 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:50:46 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Copper washers. In-Reply-To: <44A6A426FBC6441C8DB2A9670C00AFC4@DadDell> References: <000c01ca6cd1$bac2e560$3048b020$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> <44A6A426FBC6441C8DB2A9670C00AFC4@DadDell> Message-ID: <4B0BD6A6.9050107@chello.nl> Quenching copper will not make copper hard and brittle as e.g. carbon steel would. I have used the method for years bending/shaping copper pipe and softening sealing washers. Kees Oudesluijs John Rowe schreef: > Hi Simon > > > Don't quench in water or oil or anything. > > Quenching makes any metal go hard or brittle etc. > > To anneal just heat to cherry red and allow to cool in the ambient > temperature. > > It will then become soft and malleable. > > Trust me, plumbers do that all the time here in WA as the water piping > is required to be cold drawn, ie hard and stiff, and to expand the > pipe to make a joint the pipe requires annealing. > > cheers from WA > > John From grday at btinternet.com Tue Nov 24 06:14:37 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:14:37 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Copper washers. References: <000c01ca6cd1$bac2e560$3048b020$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> <44A6A426FBC6441C8DB2A9670C00AFC4@DadDell> Message-ID: I think this page talks our language, covers what we need to know and how to do it. http://www.motorcycle.co.uk/Reference-material/Annealling-Copper---Aluminium-washers.aspx All the best Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rowe" To: "Simon Lachlan" Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Copper washers. > Hi Simon > > > Don't quench in water or oil or anything. > > Quenching makes any metal go hard or brittle etc. > > To anneal just heat to cherry red and allow to cool in the ambient > temperature. > > It will then become soft and malleable. > > Trust me, plumbers do that all the time here in WA as the water piping is > required to be cold drawn, ie hard and stiff, and to expand the pipe to > make a joint the pipe requires annealing. > > cheers from WA > > John > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Lachlan" > To: "'Healeys'" > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Copper washers. > > >>I need a copper washer. So, I've got a box of new ones of various sizes. >>All the wrong sizes. >> I've got a box of sundry old flat washers amongst which is an old copper >> washer of the right size. But it's old and has presumably ceased being >> soft and malleable. >> I'm not even sure that I can even spell "annealing" at this time of >> night, >> but isn't it the process by which one applies heat to restore metal's >> previous malleability? Do I heat it cherry red and then quench it in >> water >> or is it oil or what? >> >> It's a lot to ask for one copper washer, but a)my daughter* pinches my >> daily >> tintop to go to work so I can't go and buy one and b) I like to know >> these things. >> *If she can't use my car, she can't earn enough to buy her own car! I'm >> going to pay half, but she's got to learn! >> Simon From 57healey at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 06:54:23 2009 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:54:23 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Classic Collectables Company - In-Reply-To: <087e01ca6c6b$e1868370$a4938a50$@net> References: <087e01ca6c6b$e1868370$a4938a50$@net> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0911240554l375abc52j950c78238e540f81@mail.gmail.com> Its a shame someone didn't take it over. My body guy was very impressed with Lynn's outrigger we put on my car On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:36 PM, John Sims wrote: > Their web site http://www.ahealey.com/ > indicates that they are still closed. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 07:04:55 2009 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:04:55 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Transmission In-Reply-To: <72B56686-5024-4E9C-B023-A8AD568B67C0@comcast.net> References: <72B56686-5024-4E9C-B023-A8AD568B67C0@comcast.net> Message-ID: Odd thing is that my noise is exactly the opposite, i.e. quiet until I rest my arm on the shift. Bob Johnson BJ8 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Mark Schneider wrote: > Listers, > > A few months ago I completed a rebuild of the transmission and O/D in my > BJ8. Everything from the rear engine plate to the diff was removed, > dismantled, inspected, and worn parts replaced. The car has 120 K original > miles on it. While it was apart I replaced every bearing throughout the > gearbox and O/D, synchro rings, and a worn layshaft. All the gears appeared > sound and whole. I also replaced the clutch and U-joints and had the > propeller shaft balanced. I now have about 600 miles on the car since > re-installing everything. Yesterday on my birthday I went for a little > celebratory drive. As I drove I noticed that the gearbox now has a low > rattley sounding growl. If I allow my hand to rest on the gear shift lever > the sound stops immediately. As soon as I remove any pressure on the lever > the sound returns. I welcome any thoughts as to the cause of the sound. > > Marks 3 > '66 BJ8 From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Tue Nov 24 07:32:17 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:32:17 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] re. copper washers Message-ID: <001601ca6d12$ec824640$c586d2c0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Thank you everyone who responded. I'm all set to anneal! Simon. From bj8Healey at msn.com Tue Nov 24 08:01:57 2009 From: bj8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:01:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects Message-ID: Fellow Listers ... The end of a fantastic season is on me .. snow has fallen and the first grit has been put on the roads marking the end of my Healey driving for the year ... Every year I hope to make it to Thanksgiving .. but last weekend did it in ... This driving season I spent much time messing around with steering and suspension .. adjusting box .. setting rear shocks harder .. then softer ... correcting power steer .. (thanks list) .. etc.. to result in greatly improved handling and tractability .. here in the mtn US there are great opportunities for high speed runs .. sweeping corners .. and tight mtn passes ... so making ones car perform at speed is all possible and has been/is great fun .. So now the information solicitation: .. I know there are plenty of people that have worked extensively on a Big Healey's handling ... for example front suspension geometry modifications, ride height, etc ... can any of you share thoughts on this .. or contacts .. books?. My BJ8 is currently equipped with a large dia rose jointed front sway bar, up-rated front shocks (standard style), poly-bushes, adjustable rear tube shocks, rear lowered 1/4 (which was really just cosmetic to result in even wheel arch to tire gap .. which may be a mistake and may come out this winter to see if it affected handling) .... otherwise the suspension/steering is stock ... the greatest thing I want to improve is the high speed (>90) tractability ... Have a great Thanksgiving and thanks for all the help along the ride! Jim Sailer 66 BJ8 From britishcars at shaw.ca Tue Nov 24 08:31:57 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:31:57 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7vpiof$5s90tu@pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca> I would be interested in this topic also -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Sailer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:02 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects Fellow Listers ... The end of a fantastic season is on me .. snow has fallen and the first grit has been put on the roads marking the end of my Healey driving for the year ... Every year I hope to make it to Thanksgiving .. but last weekend did it in ... This driving season I spent much time messing around with steering and suspension .. adjusting box .. setting rear shocks harder .. then softer ... correcting power steer .. (thanks list) .. etc.. to result in greatly improved handling and tractability .. here in the mtn US there are great opportunities for high speed runs .. sweeping corners .. and tight mtn passes ... so making ones car perform at speed is all possible and has been/is great fun .. So now the information solicitation: .. I know there are plenty of people that have worked extensively on a Big Healey's handling ... for example front suspension geometry modifications, ride height, etc ... can any of you share thoughts on this .. or contacts .. books?. My BJ8 is currently equipped with a large dia rose jointed front sway bar, up-rated front shocks (standard style), poly-bushes, adjustable rear tube shocks, rear lowered 1/4 (which was really just cosmetic to result in even wheel arch to tire gap .. which may be a mistake and may come out this winter to see if it affected handling) .... otherwise the suspension/steering is stock ... the greatest thing I want to improve is the high speed (>90) tractability ... Have a great Thanksgiving and thanks for all the help along the ride! Jim Sailer 66 BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as britishcars at shaw.ca http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 08:48:26 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:48:26 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: James - For sustained high speed I'd put minilites and the 185/70-15 Pirelli tires that Longstone tyres in the UK sells exclusively. Nice fat meaty tread and no need for inner tubes. I'd also look at the camber adjusting options and by all means make sure every track rod end is in very good shape. Alan On 11/24/09, James Sailer wrote: > Fellow Listers ... > > The end of a fantastic season is on me .. snow has fallen and the first grit > has been put on the roads marking the end of my Healey driving for the year > ... Every year I hope to make it to Thanksgiving .. but last weekend did it > in > ... This driving season I spent much time messing around with steering and > suspension .. adjusting box .. setting rear shocks harder .. then softer ... > correcting power steer .. (thanks list) .. etc.. to result in greatly > improved > handling and tractability .. here in the mtn US there are great > opportunities > for high speed runs .. sweeping corners .. and tight mtn passes ... so > making > ones car perform at speed is all possible and has been/is great fun .. > > So now the information solicitation: .. I know there are plenty of people > that have worked extensively on a Big Healey's handling ... for example > front > suspension geometry modifications, ride height, etc ... can any of you share > thoughts on this .. or contacts .. books?. My BJ8 is currently equipped > with > a large dia rose jointed front sway bar, up-rated front shocks (standard > style), poly-bushes, adjustable rear tube shocks, rear lowered 1/4 (which > was > really just cosmetic to result in even wheel arch to tire gap .. which may > be > a mistake and may come out this winter to see if it affected handling) .... > otherwise the suspension/steering is stock ... the greatest thing I want to > improve is the high speed (>90) tractability ... > > Have a great Thanksgiving and thanks for all the help along the ride! > > Jim Sailer > 66 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Nov 24 08:52:22 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:52:22 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted In-Reply-To: References: , <80895.82130.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: Mustn't forget the silk scarf: http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9106 Robert Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:53:24 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted From: richard.ewald at gmail.com http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9112 http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9461 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:10 PM, HealeyRick wrote: Leather flying helmet and goggles??? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Nov 24 09:02:46 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:02:46 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] apparel - prescription goggles In-Reply-To: <173126440911232131j5d3edda8i323b2306de81a372@mail.gmail.com> References: , <80895.82130.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, , <173126440911232131j5d3edda8i323b2306de81a372@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: A lister sent me this site: http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproducts.asp?sg=4&pgCode=057&sgName=Clothing&p gName=Goggles&agCode=9853&agName=Goggles+%2D+For+Spectacles or www.holden.co.uk then click on: "clothing" "goggles" "goggles for spectacles" > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:31:56 -0800 > To: richard.ewald at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted > > great site. too bad they don't make prescription goggles > my 14 year old son actually wears a similar head cover > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > > > http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9112 > > http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9461 > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:10 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > > > > > Leather flying helmet and goggles??? From bernard.johnsen at ngc.com Tue Nov 24 09:03:33 2009 From: bernard.johnsen at ngc.com (Johnsen, Bernard F (AS)) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:03:33 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <212DD23A1FC4D74BA8265F76926DF1200A54F3@XMBIL101.northgrum.com> can any of you share thoughts on this .. or contacts .. books? Hi Jim - Colin Campbell wrote a series of books, published by Bentley, discussing sports car design and tuning, including one book specifically about suspension. -Bernie Johnsen 1967 BJ8 From bj8Healey at msn.com Tue Nov 24 09:24:02 2009 From: bj8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:24:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alan, Thanks. I have been considering minilites and different tires but being in the state Longstone is a stretch with the shipping. I am currently running a General tire, 165R15 86T, and run 30 lbs all around at the recommendation of the vendor (well known Healey/wire wheel supplier). Are there any stateside equivalents? James -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Seigrist" Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:48 AM To: "James Sailer" ; "Healey List" Subject: Re: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects > James - > > For sustained high speed I'd put minilites and the 185/70-15 Pirelli > tires that Longstone tyres in the UK sells exclusively. Nice fat > meaty tread and no need for inner tubes. > > I'd also look at the camber adjusting options and by all means make > sure every track rod end is in very good shape. > > Alan From ynotink at msn.com Tue Nov 24 09:24:38 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:24:38 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Copper washers. In-Reply-To: References: <000c01ca6cd1$bac2e560$3048b020$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk>, <44A6A426FBC6441C8DB2A9670C00AFC4@DadDell>, Message-ID: Looks right, but they do make it more complicated than necessary. I just hang it on a piece of wire with a hooked end and hit it with a propane torch until it glows. Then just let it cool while you do something else and it's ready when you are. Bill Lawrence > From: grday at btinternet.com > To: jarowe at westnet.com.au; simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:14:37 +0000 > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Copper washers. > > I think this page talks our language, covers what we need to know and how to > do it. > > http://www.motorcycle.co.uk/Reference-material/Annealling-Copper---Aluminium- washers.aspx > > > All the best > > Guy R Day > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Rowe" > To: "Simon Lachlan" > Cc: "Healey List" > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:44 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Copper washers. > > > > Hi Simon > > > > > > Don't quench in water or oil or anything. > > > > Quenching makes any metal go hard or brittle etc. > > > > To anneal just heat to cherry red and allow to cool in the ambient > > temperature. > > > > It will then become soft and malleable. > > > > Trust me, plumbers do that all the time here in WA as the water piping is > > required to be cold drawn, ie hard and stiff, and to expand the pipe to > > make a joint the pipe requires annealing. > > > > cheers from WA > > > > John > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Lachlan" > > To: "'Healeys'" > > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:45 PM > > Subject: [Healeys] Copper washers. > > > > > >>I need a copper washer. So, I've got a box of new ones of various sizes. > >>All the wrong sizes. > >> I've got a box of sundry old flat washers amongst which is an old copper > >> washer of the right size. But it's old and has presumably ceased being > >> soft and malleable. > >> I'm not even sure that I can even spell "annealing" at this time of > >> night, > >> but isn't it the process by which one applies heat to restore metal's > >> previous malleability? Do I heat it cherry red and then quench it in > >> water > >> or is it oil or what? > >> > >> It's a lot to ask for one copper washer, but a)my daughter* pinches my > >> daily > >> tintop to go to work so I can't go and buy one and b) I like to know > >> these things. > >> *If she can't use my car, she can't earn enough to buy her own car! I'm > >> going to pay half, but she's got to learn! > >> Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 09:41:58 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:41:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] apparel - prescription goggles In-Reply-To: References: <80895.82130.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <173126440911232131j5d3edda8i323b2306de81a372@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <173126440911240841h1131d20bn8193817bd7e27900@mail.gmail.com> *http://tinyurl.com/yzjarls* for a less traditional auto style, but far less expensive for optical googles On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:02 AM, wrote: > A lister sent me this site: > > > http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproducts.asp?sg=4&pgCode=057&sgName=Clothing&p > gName=Goggles&agCode=9853&agName=Goggles+%2D+For+Spectacles > > > > or www.holden.co.uk > > then click on: > > "clothing" > > "goggles" > > "goggles for spectacles" > > > > > > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:31:56 -0800 > > To: richard.ewald at gmail.com > > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] apparel suggestions wanted > > > > great site. too bad they don't make prescription goggles > > my 14 year old son actually wears a similar head cover > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Richard Ewald > wrote: > > > > > http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9112 > > > http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9461 > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:10 PM, HealeyRick > wrote: > > > > > > > Leather flying helmet and goggles??? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Nov 24 09:55:24 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <586544145.6156031259081724017.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I've got 185/70H-15 Vredestein Sprint Classics on 6-inch sealed Dayton wires. The biggest effect on handling I got was from getting as much positive camber out as possible with offset bushings (my BJ8 had excessive pos. camber) and getting a good alignment. Turnins to corners became much more decisive and true instantly (I think the pos. camber was a holdover from when Healeys came with bias-ply tires). I put a larger (Addco) sway bar on, which keeps the car flatter in corners, but it increased the steering effort. Roller thrust bearings in the upper trunnions alleviated that problem. The Vreds are plenty sticky for my driving, last up to 30K miles and haven't given me any surprises (decent in the wet, too). I got behind a tuner boy on a windy mountain road the other day who wouldn't let me pass until he scared himself and/or his girlfriend made him pull over. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Sailer" To: "Alan Seigrist" , "Healey List" Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:24:02 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects Alan, Thanks. I have been considering minilites and different tires but being in the state Longstone is a stretch with the shipping. I am currently running a General tire, 165R15 86T, and run 30 lbs all around at the recommendation of the vendor (well known Healey/wire wheel supplier). Are there any stateside equivalents? James From bj8Healey at msn.com Tue Nov 24 10:30:39 2009 From: bj8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:30:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects In-Reply-To: <586544145.6156031259081724017.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <586544145.6156031259081724017.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob, Thanks. Do you have words of wisdom/starting places for me to get out positive camber? Any different alignment than standard? My sway bar has been switched out to be a large one. From: Bob Spidell Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:55 AM To: James Sailer Cc: Alan Seigrist ; Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects I've got 185/70H-15 Vredestein Sprint Classics on 6-inch sealed Dayton wires. The biggest effect on handling I got was from getting as much positive camber out as possible with offset bushings (my BJ8 had excessive pos. camber) and getting a good alignment. Turnins to corners became much more decisive and true instantly (I think the pos. camber was a holdover from when Healeys came with bias-ply tires). I put a larger (Addco) sway bar on, which keeps the car flatter in corners, but it increased the steering effort. Roller thrust bearings in the upper trunnions alleviated that problem. The Vreds are plenty sticky for my driving, last up to 30K miles and haven't given me any surprises (decent in the wet, too). I got behind a tuner boy on a windy mountain road the other day who wouldn't let me pass until he scared himself and/or his girlfriend made him pull over. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From javrugtman at htcnet.org Tue Nov 24 11:01:42 2009 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:01:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B0C1F86.2020201@htcnet.org> I've got those tires on my 64 with minilites. They came from the California dealer for those Pirellis; Lucas Tire http://www.lucasclassictires.com/ They look good and seem to preform well on my mountain roads, but I'm not too happy. I had Hendrix set them up and he had to shave half the tread off to get them round. Also they had some age on them as delivered. And James, I've a similar setup as yours, except I also have the DW rear sway bar and tube shocks all around. John Hightown, VA James Sailer wrote: > Alan, > > Thanks. I have been considering minilites and different tires but > being in the state Longstone is a stretch with the shipping. I am > currently running a General tire, 165R15 86T, and run 30 lbs all > around at the recommendation of the vendor (well known Healey/wire > wheel supplier). > > Are there any stateside equivalents? > > James > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Alan Seigrist" > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:48 AM > To: "James Sailer" ; "Healey List" > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects > >> James - >> >> For sustained high speed I'd put minilites and the 185/70-15 Pirelli >> tires that Longstone tyres in the UK sells exclusively. Nice fat >> meaty tread and no need for inner tubes. >> >> I'd also look at the camber adjusting options and by all means make >> sure every track rod end is in very good shape. >> >> Alan From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 24 11:08:26 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:08:26 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects In-Reply-To: References: <586544145.6156031259081724017.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Jim. You do not want positive camber. You want negative camber, the Healey originally has to much positive camber. This will give you some tire wear but the handling is much better We have off set bushings available. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:30 AM, James Sailer wrote: > Bob, Thanks. Do you have words of wisdom/starting places for me > to get out > positive camber? Any different alignment than standard? My sway > bar has been > switched out to be a large one. > > > > From: Bob Spidell > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:55 AM > To: James Sailer > Cc: Alan Seigrist ; Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects > > > I've got 185/70H-15 Vredestein Sprint Classics on 6-inch sealed > Dayton wires. > The biggest effect on handling I got was from getting as much > positive camber > out as possible with offset bushings (my BJ8 had excessive pos. > camber) and > getting a good alignment. Turnins to corners became much more > decisive and > true instantly (I think the pos. camber was a holdover from when > Healeys came > with bias-ply tires). > > I put a larger (Addco) sway bar on, which keeps the car flatter in > corners, > but it increased the steering effort. Roller thrust bearings in > the upper > trunnions alleviated that problem. > > The Vreds are plenty sticky for my driving, last up to 30K miles > and haven't > given me any surprises (decent in the wet, too). > > I got behind a tuner boy on a windy mountain road the other day who > wouldn't > let me pass until he scared himself and/or his girlfriend made him > pull over. > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Tue Nov 24 12:18:48 2009 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:18:48 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Classic Collectables Company - In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0911240554l375abc52j950c78238e540f81@mail.gmail.com> References: , <087e01ca6c6b$e1868370$a4938a50$@net>, <743b1e2f0911240554l375abc52j950c78238e540f81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks to all who replied. I talked to Lynn yesterday and he told me that he has next to no parts left, a couple of rocker panels, that's all. The person fabricating most of the parts for him is unable to work at present due to medical issues and likely will not be able to do so in the forseeable future. I, too like the quality of the parts he produced. Jean Caron > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:54:23 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Classic Collectables Company - > From: 57healey at gmail.com > To: ahbn6 at verizon.net > CC: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net > > Its a shame someone didn't take it over. My body guy was very > impressed with Lynn's outrigger we put on my car > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:36 PM, John Sims wrote: > > Their web site http://www.ahealey.com/ > > indicates that they are still closed. > > > > John Sims, BN6 > > Aberdeen, NJ > > > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -- > Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX > 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691815 From dan at warner-associates.com Tue Nov 24 13:33:34 2009 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:33:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Small Parts Rechroming - Shop Advice? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <445C012498BA4551B534152F16A92962@DANSTROM> Alan: I am in Mpls area and after checking around found what I believe is a very reputable chrome shop that is fairly priced. I rechromed every piece on my car and all came out perfect including the pot metal. The pot metal is hard to do because of pits that are in the original low cost piece. Contact John Colton at 651-464-0761. JR Custom Plating is located at 1391 11th Ave SW, Forest Lake, MN 55025. By the way, they also did the front AUSTIN HEALEY emblem and it came out great. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:18 AM To: Healey Subject: [Healeys] Small Parts Rechroming - Shop Advice? All - I have some pot metal pieces from my Atlantic's control head assembly that need rechroming. Anyone have a good recommendation for a shop that will do this properly without grinding down the pot metal on my pieces (it's fairly fragile as you can imagine)? Location really doesn't matter, I'll just UPS it to them. I just need to know who's really good at this type of work. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as dan at warner-associates.com http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 15:12:54 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:12:54 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: James - I don't know how they do it, but Longstone manages to ship their tires for very low cost all things considered. I think their website will give an estimate for you, which is accurate. The Pirellis they sell are not expensive, and the pound is still favorable. Alan On 11/25/09, James Sailer wrote: > Alan, > > Thanks. I have been considering minilites and different tires but being in > the state Longstone is a stretch with the shipping. I am currently running > a General tire, 165R15 86T, and run 30 lbs all around at the recommendation > of the vendor (well known Healey/wire wheel supplier). > > Are there any stateside equivalents? > > James > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Alan Seigrist" > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:48 AM > To: "James Sailer" ; "Healey List" > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects > >> James - >> >> For sustained high speed I'd put minilites and the 185/70-15 Pirelli >> tires that Longstone tyres in the UK sells exclusively. Nice fat >> meaty tread and no need for inner tubes. >> >> I'd also look at the camber adjusting options and by all means make >> sure every track rod end is in very good shape. >> >> Alan >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From bj8Healey at msn.com Tue Nov 24 15:45:48 2009 From: bj8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:45:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Alan, I'll look into it. I have gotten a lot to chew on and am formulating my list for the winter. Had a very nice talk (as usual) with David Nock. So I am least headed down a path. My first stop is going to get some equipment to determine my existing camber before I do anything. It would be easier if there wasn't snow on the ground! .. But I love to ski .. and like driving the healey, I love to drive my 1993 Land Rover Defender 110 in the snow! Cheers. James -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Seigrist" Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:12 PM To: "James Sailer" ; "Healey List" Subject: Re: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects > James - > > I don't know how they do it, but Longstone manages to ship their tires > for very low cost all things considered. I think their website will > give an estimate for you, which is accurate. The Pirellis they sell > are not expensive, and the pound is still favorable. > > Alan From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 16:25:40 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:25:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] led brAke lights fro rear reflectors Message-ID: <173126440911241525s5a60040fg4c5ec8bddb05116e@mail.gmail.com> OK. I did look to the archives and found some references to led retrofits, but not what i was looking for. So does anyone have a how to with part#s to convertt he rear reflectors to LED running/brake lights? -- I Erbs 59 BT7 On the way to a paint job and interior..... :) :) :) Portland, OR From austin.healey at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 17:43:14 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:43:14 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects In-Reply-To: References: <586544145.6156031259081724017.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <16452591-02EB-4040-80CF-661DC4987D25@gmail.com> Hi James, Here's an article I wrote years ago about camber and suspension on Healeys. http://www.myaustinhealey.com/austin_healey_technical_articles.html Chris Sent from my iPhone On 25/11/2009, at 4:30 AM, "James Sailer" wrote: > Bob, Thanks. Do you have words of wisdom/starting places for me to > get out > positive camber? Any different alignment than standard? My sway bar > has been > switched out to be a large one. > > > > From: Bob Spidell > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:55 AM > To: James Sailer > Cc: Alan Seigrist ; Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects > > > I've got 185/70H-15 Vredestein Sprint Classics on 6-inch sealed > Dayton wires. > The biggest effect on handling I got was from getting as much > positive camber > out as possible with offset bushings (my BJ8 had excessive pos. > camber) and > getting a good alignment. Turnins to corners became much more > decisive and > true instantly (I think the pos. camber was a holdover from when > Healeys came > with bias-ply tires). > > I put a larger (Addco) sway bar on, which keeps the car flatter in > corners, > but it increased the steering effort. Roller thrust bearings in the > upper > trunnions alleviated that problem. > > The Vreds are plenty sticky for my driving, last up to 30K miles and > haven't > given me any surprises (decent in the wet, too). > > I got behind a tuner boy on a windy mountain road the other day who > wouldn't > let me pass until he scared himself and/or his girlfriend made him > pull over. > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as austin.healey at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From javrugtman at htcnet.org Tue Nov 24 18:02:41 2009 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:02:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] led brAke lights fro rear reflectors In-Reply-To: <173126440911241525s5a60040fg4c5ec8bddb05116e@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911241525s5a60040fg4c5ec8bddb05116e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B0C8231.2090206@htcnet.org> http://www.hendrixwirewheel.com/stuff.html I Erbs wrote: > OK. I did look to the archives and found some references to led retrofits, > but not what i was looking for. > So does anyone have a how to with part#s to convertt he rear reflectors to > LED running/brake lights? From bj7ah at acanac.net Tue Nov 24 18:21:54 2009 From: bj7ah at acanac.net (Heal;ey) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:21:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C0962FB6C8E4BE0A83A1215710FDE2E@robsLTPC> If you go to this website there are pictures of how I checked and set my camber using a level. http://picasaweb.google.com/bj7healey Bob 1963 BJ7 -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Sailer" Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:45 PM To: "Alan Seigrist" ; "Healey List" Subject: Re: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects > Thanks Alan, > > I'll look into it. I have gotten a lot to chew on and am formulating my > list for the winter. Had a very nice talk (as usual) with David Nock. So > I am least headed down a path. My first stop is going to get some > equipment to determine my existing camber before I do anything. It would > be easier if there wasn't snow on the ground! .. But I love to ski .. and > like driving the healey, I love to drive my 1993 Land Rover Defender 110 > in the snow! > > Cheers. > > James > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Alan Seigrist" > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:12 PM > To: "James Sailer" ; "Healey List" > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] End of a Season and Winter Handling Projects > >> James - >> >> I don't know how they do it, but Longstone manages to ship their tires >> for very low cost all things considered. I think their website will >> give an estimate for you, which is accurate. The Pirellis they sell >> are not expensive, and the pound is still favorable. >> >> Alan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bj7ah at acanac.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Tue Nov 24 18:31:33 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:31:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] led brAke lights fro rear reflectors In-Reply-To: <173126440911241525s5a60040fg4c5ec8bddb05116e@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911241525s5a60040fg4c5ec8bddb05116e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: There was a great article in one of last years national Healey mags. I will search for it if you don't get any responses. I did mine and LOVE the results. Rich Kahn > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:25:40 -0800 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] led brAke lights fro rear reflectors > > OK. I did look to the archives and found some references to led retrofits, > but not what i was looking for. > So does anyone have a how to with part#s to convertt he rear reflectors to > LED running/brake lights? > > -- > I Erbs > 59 BT7 > On the way to a paint job and interior..... :) :) :) > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 18:36:58 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:36:58 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] led brAke lights fro rear reflectors In-Reply-To: <173126440911241525s5a60040fg4c5ec8bddb05116e@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911241525s5a60040fg4c5ec8bddb05116e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I ERbs - I've bought several LED 1157's from this guy (buy them in red, they're the brightest) and I can tell you these are the brightest tail lights on the market. These are the only way to go, and the current draw is quite low. The only thing is you might need to replace your lucas flasher with a solid state flasher, but you can buy those in your local pep boys for cheap. http://autolumination.com/1156_1157.htm His stuff is very good quality. 1157 is what you want for the combined brake / turnsignal lights. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:25 AM, I Erbs wrote: > OK. I did look to the archives and found some references to led retrofits, > but not what i was looking for. > So does anyone have a how to with part#s to convertt he rear reflectors to > LED running/brake lights? > > -- From fogbro1 at comcast.net Tue Nov 24 19:37:48 2009 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:37:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] New Front Hubs References: Message-ID: <84D1532261B740CAB42D768DE95F27DE@Edscomputer> Hello List, I have two new front 12tpi hubs for my BN6 which I'm converting to BT7 disc brakes. The old BT7 hubs are fastened to the rotors with a splined stud and nut, the hub being countersunk to accept the taper at the stud's head. The 5 holes in the new hub are not countersunk. The question is: Do I have these holes countersunk at my local machine ship to accept the old studs or will the bolts as used on the late BJ8s fit? TIA, Ed Woods From walt2727 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 24 19:55:56 2009 From: walt2727 at yahoo.com (Walt Peterson) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:55:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Winter Handling Mods Project Message-ID: <364792.49426.qm@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> James, Great question & I think the responses are right-on. What I'd like you to consider is "The Nut Behind the Wheel" as we used to say. Besides the mods think of bringing everything up to spec with tight and/or new parts. Negative camber is a good idea as well as checking all the rod-ends. A bigger anti-sway bar is good but only if it is balanced with one at the opposite end. Watch the relationship between grip at both ends. A Healey power oversteers at moderate speeds but a slight understeer, like tacking a sailboat is safer at speed. Maybe not for Sir Sterling but for you & me. I plan to gusset the front lower suspension mounts (Anybody have plans/drawings for that?) if I get to touring with the Tri carb. A slightly smaller steering wheel helps & what are you doing for front pads? I've used EBC Green on my track Mustang & love them. I'd like to put a dual brake system & a pressure valve on the back to balance the braking, too. I mean, the driver is the Master Chip in the circuitry. Think about doing some Autocross and some track driving to develope your suspension. High Performance Driving by Bob Bondurant is very informative book & both my kids had to read it & autocross & track drive before I felt comfortable with their street driving. On the right side of your Plastic Jesus paste a picture of Pat Moss and on the left Michelle Muton. Your talking about some impressive speeds on public roads. I've seen a Corvette almost cut in half at the Weatherly Hillclimb in '05: it's sobering. Best/Walt From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 20:41:30 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:41:30 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] New Front Hubs In-Reply-To: <84D1532261B740CAB42D768DE95F27DE@Edscomputer> References: <84D1532261B740CAB42D768DE95F27DE@Edscomputer> Message-ID: Ed - If the holes don't have the striations in them, I'd say you need to just used normal high strength bolts on this rather than the healey tapered studs. Otherwise, you won't be able to get the studs in... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Ed Woods wrote: > Hello List, > > I have two new front 12tpi hubs for my BN6 which I'm converting to BT7 disc > brakes. The old BT7 hubs are fastened to the rotors with a splined stud and > nut, the hub being countersunk to accept the taper at the stud's head. The 5 > holes in the new hub are not countersunk. > > The question is: Do I have these holes countersunk at my local machine ship > to accept the old studs or will the bolts as used on the late BJ8s fit? > > TIA, > > Ed Woods _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From 55healey at comcast.net Tue Nov 24 21:22:21 2009 From: 55healey at comcast.net (robert westcott) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:22:21 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] [Saloon-lovers] Austin Healy info request In-Reply-To: References: <200911240502.nAO52IDC014699@lofty.jag-lovers.org> Message-ID: Hi Tom, Lots of Healey guys on both lists. Sign up on the Healey list just like Saloon-Lovers, you will be in very good company. The HBN7 is an early 3000 when they first moved up to the larger engine. A 3000 MK II. A 2 seater is a plus. Jump on this one or I will. It will be great to have you on the Healey list. Rob This is the killer Healey site: Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:55 PM, Tom Carson wrote: > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > A nice young fellow named Lane Lima has been working several months > on a large abatement project in the State Office Building here in > Juneau. He has seen me driving my XK120...and eventually told me > about his car. It's a 1960 (purchased by his grandfather in later > 1959) Austin Healy sitting on blocks in his father's garage on Oahu, > Hawaii. The car is red with a white top, 4 speed w/OD, two seater, > with wire wheels. It has 15,057 miles on it and still has the > original tires on it. Pretty good story, huh? > > Finally tonight (after many weeks of my prodding) his father called > and gave him the VIN: > > HBN7L1720 > > I've certainly heard of BN7 Healys, but that's about as far as my > knowledge goes. I'm looking for the killer Healy website where I > can see what the VIN reveals. I know somebody out there knows just > the site....maybe even knows all the info! Heck, I think at least > two Listers actually own Healys. Rob Wescott on the Saloon list for > one. As always, I hereby appeal to the wisdom on the Lists. > > Cheers, > > Tom Carson > 1954 XK 120SE OTS S674946 > 1962 3.8 Mark 2 MOD, chrome wires > Juneau, Alaska From 55healey at comcast.net Tue Nov 24 22:07:20 2009 From: 55healey at comcast.net (robert westcott) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:07:20 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brit Sports of Seattle Message-ID: <400014BA-8B4F-4507-B2E1-5D87F50E46F8@comcast.net> Listers of the Great Pacific NorthWet, I was talking to Mark tonight and he mentioned his new web page. It is a good read and neat to see recent pictures inside the shop he and Tom Eller share. The Cascade Healey Club just had a Tech Session there and it is a great place to visit, learn and do business. Bookmark: http://www.britsportofseattle.com/ A happy client, Rob Westcott '55 BN1 Healey '59 MK1 Jaguar From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Wed Nov 25 00:26:07 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:26:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] led brAke lights fro rear reflectors In-Reply-To: References: <173126440911241525s5a60040fg4c5ec8bddb05116e@mail.gmail.com>, Message-ID: If you follow the article, it will cost about $40 to $50 bucks. It tells where to get the parts and how to do everything. The only difficult part was cutting the hole in the rubber gasket. I bought new chrome with red lens on E-bay for 20 more dollars. I used the original Lucas glass in stead of the re-production lens. It lights with the turn signal, brakes and headlights. No relay required. Took about one hour to do. > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:36:58 +0800 > From: healey.nut at gmail.com > To: eyera3 at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] led brAke lights fro rear reflectors > > I ERbs - > > I've bought several LED 1157's from this guy (buy them in red, they're the > brightest) and I can tell you these are the brightest tail lights on the > market. These are the only way to go, and the current draw is quite low. > The only thing is you might need to replace your lucas flasher with a solid > state flasher, but you can buy those in your local pep boys for cheap. > > http://autolumination.com/1156_1157.htm > > His stuff is very good quality. 1157 is what you want for the combined > brake / turnsignal lights. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:25 AM, I Erbs wrote: > > > OK. I did look to the archives and found some references to led retrofits, > > but not what i was looking for. > > So does anyone have a how to with part#s to convertt he rear reflectors to > > LED running/brake lights? > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 00:30:22 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:30:22 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] led brAke lights fro rear reflectors In-Reply-To: <173126440911241525s5a60040fg4c5ec8bddb05116e@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911241525s5a60040fg4c5ec8bddb05116e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I Erbs - I reread your email. It is the article I wrote on this list a while back. Here it is again, all the info you need is there: ************************* I thought y'all would like to know that I have done an even better thing with this reflector conversion. I have been watching LED technology for some time and I have found a company that makes a very VERY high intensity 1157. Trust me these lights are as bright, if not brighter than halogen bulbs... and they're better because they last forever and they have "instant on" functionality, plus the bulbs never get hot. This is how the set up looks before final assembly on my early '64 BJ8: http://picasaweb.google.com/Healey.Nut/HealeyNutSCarStuff/photo#5108189838072380146 I bought the LED from this company: http://autolumination.com/1156_1157.htm The LED I bought to use with the reflector was the Eagle Eye II 1157 in red (red is usually the brightest type of LED). I also bought the 1157 sockets from the same company. As you can see in my picture above I installed a ground wire at the bottom of the socket, as the light will be isolated from ground when mounted. I drilled a hole in the rubber mount using a 25mm carbide tipped hole drill bit. The Eagle Eye II light fits very nicely in the hole and will not fall out (slight interference fit). The only thing with these LEDs are the running lights and the brake lights are almost the same brightness (out of the box), so I put an inline 100 ohm/5 watt resistor on the running light circuit and now it all works perfectly. The light draws enough current so that a standard flasher will still work with this bulb. So, now my reflectors have running lights as well as brake/turnsignal lights. It works really well! FYI I also bought the Eagle Eye Tower 1157 (red) and put that in the standard Lucas turnsignals. Just one question - one of the reflectors has silver paint on it. Any recommendation for getting rid of the liver paint so the light will be brighter? Will Tamaya hobby thinner work? ******************************** Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:25 AM, I Erbs wrote: > OK. I did look to the archives and found some references to led retrofits, > but not what i was looking for. > So does anyone have a how to with part#s to convertt he rear reflectors to > LED running/brake lights? > > -- > I Erbs > 59 BT7 > On the way to a paint job and interior..... :) :) :) > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Wed Nov 25 06:26:55 2009 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:26:55 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey '100' "LE MANS Message-ID: <4B0D309F.5090308@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> BLOKES I was cleaning away a few things that have accumulated in my 'stuff' room and came across the following, and I spell and type it exactly as per the letters typed on the page with letter head - DONALD HEALEY MOTOR COMPANY LTD. WARWICK ENGLAND Additional Equipment Available ENGINE: "LE MANS" Engine Modification Kit. UK Pound 62. 0. 0. Fitting charge UK Pound 22. 5 (shillings). 0 (pence) 8.1 : 1 High Compression Pistons with rings and gudgeon pins UK Pound 12..12. 0 the set. Fitting charge (used cars) 10. 0. 0 (new cars) 6. 0. 0 When fitted with "Le Mans" Engine Kit 3. 0. 0. Additional items on the 2 page list. Some include; Louvered bonnet Leather bonnet strap Two types of hardtop, 'normal window' and 'wrap around window' Joe From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Wed Nov 25 06:44:30 2009 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:44:30 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Le Mans Kit or Factory Le Mans Message-ID: <4B0D34BE.3040202@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> Blokes More stuff from the room! From the Oct. 1986 Healey Highlights and submitted by Rick Regan based on information from; Austin Motors ( Canada) Austin Publication No. 1131 "The Specials" by G. Healey Lucas Spares Austin publication No. 1050 Donald healey Motor Co. publication W35 " LeMans Models" Le Mans Kit: ( part nos. shown) Available early 1954 following Le Mans race entry 1953 Factory Le Mans; ( part nos. shown ) Available following 1955 Earl's Court Motor Show My words, "who came first and who were the leftovers?' Goodnight Joe From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 25 06:55:08 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:55:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] led brAke lights fro rear reflectors Message-ID: I did it for under $20.00 (both sides- LED) with everything you need bought from Pep Boys. I don't have a scanner, but if you send your address I can send you a copy of the parts lists and procedures. Shawn The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID2472 7::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Wed Nov 25 07:21:37 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:21:37 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Glove Box Locks on ebay In-Reply-To: <4B0D34BE.3040202@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> References: <4B0D34BE.3040202@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3BD99B3@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> For those who need them. There are again BJ8 Glove Box Locks for sale on ebay: Item number: 230401243028 and Item number: 160380842305. Josef Eckert 54BN1, 62BT7, 65Sprite From bj8Healey at msn.com Wed Nov 25 07:42:00 2009 From: bj8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:42:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Subject: Winter Handling Mods Project In-Reply-To: <720117.1717.qm@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <720117.1717.qm@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Walt, Some interesting points and I appreciate the input. I restored my car to a high level and have a very nice place to start upgrades. I have already up rated my brakes with EBC green stuff pads, slotted rotors, and braided SS brake hoses (as well as all new brake lines, rebuilt servo, master, etc). The stopping power is very nice and I would recommend such upgrades to everyone. I do agree a dual circuit system may be something to consider. And I do agree on the skill development. While I have autocrossed some over the years, I am by no means up to the skill level I would like to be. Having grown up with a friend that was an IMSA GTP driver I am aware of training, skill and consequence. On point with your comment is my near term intention to attend a 3-day session at Skip Barber driving school at Laguna Seca this winter to develop my skills. I am relatively close to Miller Motorsports Park which is a fabulous track and I have hopes to take the Healey there with the local club next season; a proper training is needed. Cheers. James Sailer From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Nov 25 07:57:22 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:57:22 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Brit Sports of Seattle In-Reply-To: <400014BA-8B4F-4507-B2E1-5D87F50E46F8@comcast.net> References: <400014BA-8B4F-4507-B2E1-5D87F50E46F8@comcast.net> Message-ID: They have images of a '59 gearbox rebuild: http://www.britsportofseattle.com/2009/11/austin-healey-gearboxoverdrive-rebu ild/#more-351 I hope to never know more about it than that. :) > From: 55healey at comcast.net > To: saloons at jag-lovers.org; healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:07:20 -0800 > Subject: [Healeys] Brit Sports of Seattle > > Listers of the Great Pacific NorthWet, > > I was talking to Mark tonight and he mentioned his new web page. > It is a good read and neat to see recent pictures inside the shop he > and Tom Eller share. > > The Cascade Healey Club just had a Tech Session there and it is a > great place to visit, learn and do business. > > Bookmark: http://www.britsportofseattle.com/ > > A happy client, > > Rob Westcott > > '55 BN1 Healey > '59 MK1 Jaguar From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Wed Nov 25 08:43:24 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:43:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Non-Healey race video request Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0342002A@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Anyone have a copy of the 2009 Indy 500 race broadcast? Thanks, Ken Freese From info at atteanlodge.com Wed Nov 25 09:02:29 2009 From: info at atteanlodge.com (Attean Lake Lodge) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:02:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] distributor cap Message-ID: <3F4AE3597CF9466CA69B09BA4AB6AA25@PC1> Some caps identify where the #1 lead is supposed to be, the Lucas I have does not, would anyone have a pic showing the correct location? Many thanks. Brad Holden 67 BJ8 From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 25 09:43:00 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:43:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] led brAke lights fro rear reflectors (scan) In-Reply-To: <0E0AD327-4C26-4746-8FD6-B4D85955628E@gmail.com> References: , <0E0AD327-4C26-4746-8FD6-B4D85955628E@gmail.com> Message-ID: WOW! Got a overheaming responce, several listees want a copy. If it is ok, I will have my wife scan it on Monday (while at work) and send out electronic copies to everyone that requested one. If anyone else would like one please just e-mail me and I will send one. Thanks, Shawn The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Nov 25 10:41:50 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:41:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] distributor cap References: <3F4AE3597CF9466CA69B09BA4AB6AA25@PC1> Message-ID: Easy to remember Brad. When looking down at the cap, the coil wire comes off at 12 o'clock, and the #1 lead comes off at 1 o'clock. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Attean Lake Lodge" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:02 AM Subject: [Healeys] distributor cap > Some caps identify where the #1 lead is supposed to be, the Lucas I have > does > not, would anyone have a pic showing the correct location? Many thanks. > > Brad Holden 67 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomleavy at comcast.net Wed Nov 25 11:10:18 2009 From: tomleavy at comcast.net (tomleavy at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 In-Reply-To: <1262137590.8555741259172231233.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <793085580.8558461259172618748.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> First, Happy Thanksgiving to all. Among other things to be thankful for this year, I count this great community of car enthusiasts, and the friends we have made along the way. How fortunate we are to own these great old cars that bring us so much pleasure. It was almost a year ago that we decided to expedite the restoration timeline and be ready in time for this past Conclave. I figure this weekend is a good time to kick the discussion around the dinner table and begin making plans. Is anyone traveling from the East Coast to Illinois to this year's meet? We are trying to get a group from Central NJ together. How impressive would it be to see a long line of Healeys heading West? All the best to you and yours. Tom From Healey100M at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 11:43:31 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:43:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 In-Reply-To: <793085580.8558461259172618748.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <793085580.8558461259172618748.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <467D3B47-E1F8-4F9D-84BC-BFF0087419E5@gmail.com> Tom, we'll be driving out from the Providence, RI area. Haven't decided on a route yet. We have done the 80 interstate several times and don't really care for it. Keep us posted on you plans. Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100M '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Nov 25, 2009, at 1:10 PM, tomleavy at comcast.net wrote: > First, Happy Thanksgiving to all. Among other things to be thankful for this year, I count this great community of car enthusiasts, and the friends we have made along the way. How fortunate we are to own these great old cars that bring us so much pleasure. > > > > It was almost a year ago that we decided to expedite the restoration timeline and be ready in time for this past Conclave. I figure this weekend is a good time to kick the discussion around the dinner table and begin making plans. > > > Is anyone traveling from the East Coast to Illinois to this year's meet? We are trying to get a group from Central NJ together. How impressive would it be to see a long line of Healeys heading West? > > > All the best to you and yours. > > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Awgertoo at aol.com Wed Nov 25 11:47:56 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:47:56 EST Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 Message-ID: In a message dated 11/25/2009 1:36:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tomleavy at comcast.net writes: Is anyone traveling from the East Coast to Illinois to this year's meet? We are trying to get a group from Central NJ together. How impressive would it be to see a long line of Healeys heading West? -------------------------------------------------------- Tom-- Odds are good that I will go but I would not be travelling on Interstates. My preferences run to two-lane travel and if you are interested in doing that please count me in the group. Otherwise I would see you there. Best--Michael Oritt From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Wed Nov 25 11:50:48 2009 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:50:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 In-Reply-To: <793085580.8558461259172618748.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <793085580.8558461259172618748.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <438670.94320.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> US 20 all the way?? Register early to get your choice of villas or homes to house a group. Inn rooms are going fast. Bob Brown Conclave 2010 Chairman To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 12:10:18 PM Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 First, Happy Thanksgiving to all. Among other things to be thankful for this year, I count this great community of car enthusiasts, and the friends we have made along the way. How fortunate we are to own these great old cars that bring us so much pleasure. It was almost a year ago that we decided to expedite the restoration timeline and be ready in time for this past Conclave. I figure this weekend is a good time to kick the discussion around the dinner table and begin making plans. Is anyone traveling from the East Coast to Illinois to this year's meet? We are trying to get a group from Central NJ together. How impressive would it be to see a long line of Healeys heading West? All the best to you and yours. Tom Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as blkbt7 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From jschmid at imt.net Wed Nov 25 12:35:45 2009 From: jschmid at imt.net (jschmid at imt.net) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:35:45 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Healeys] transmission ID Message-ID: <1245.24.72.221.128.1259177745.squirrel@cu.imt.net> Hi all, First time write in. Can someone help identify this transmission: The same center case as a side shift Healey, the side cover is for column shift but a floor shift cover fits right on. It has an overdrive that looks more like a Borg Warner with a mechanical shift lever. The bell housing has the starter on the opposite side. Everything British-Mowog. Thanks, Jim From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Nov 25 13:42:37 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:42:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 In-Reply-To: <793085580.8558461259172618748.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20091125144237.4DVB5.1089536.root@ispmxfep11-z01> There might be several from the Pittsburgh area going, so if you come through here, you may increase the convoy. tom ---- tomleavy at comcast.net wrote: ============= First, Happy Thanksgiving to all. Among other things to be thankful for this year, I count this great community of car enthusiasts, and the friends we have made along the way. How fortunate we are to own these great old cars that bring us so much pleasure. It was almost a year ago that we decided to expedite the restoration timeline and be ready in time for this past Conclave. I figure this weekend is a good time to kick the discussion around the dinner table and begin making plans. Is anyone traveling from the East Coast to Illinois to this year's meet? We are trying to get a group from Central NJ together. How impressive would it be to see a long line of Healeys heading West? All the best to you and yours. Tom Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From peter.svilans at rogers.com Wed Nov 25 14:08:17 2009 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:08:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] transmission !.D. Message-ID: <001a01ca6e13$68c0a4d0$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> Jim, The C-Series-engined Austins Called ( SIX Westminsters to distinguish them from the A-90 Atlantic) had a colourful transmission history: -1954: A-90 -new Morris designed six cyl motor- 85 bhp with single Zenith carb- 4 speed column shift, O/D optional -spring 1956: A-105 - same motor as Austin-Healey- 102 bhp with twin SU's- 4 speed column shift, O/D optional -fall 1956 to 1959: A-95, A-105 - 4 speed column shift with O/D standard, Borg Warner O/D optional -summer 1959: A-99 - almost the same motor as Austin-Healey 3000 with twin S.U's but 103 bhp, - THREE speed transmission (with Porsche-developed synchros on all speeds) with O/D on second and third, Borg Warner automatic optional -1961: A-110 - twin exhaust gave 120 bhp, now floor change for same three speed plus 2 O/D box, although Police cars had Healey 4-speed side shift boxes. Borg Warner automatic optional. 1964: A-110 Mark II - Austin-Healey centershift four-speed boxes with optional O/D or Borg Warner automatic Best regards Peter From de.sk.yeast at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 25 14:47:53 2009 From: de.sk.yeast at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Yeast) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:47:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 100 in Detail by Bill Piggott Message-ID: <517279.18977.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It looks like I could become the proud owner of a 1955 BN-1 100-4. Previous owner of a 1972 MGB and a 1954 MG-TF (wish I still had that one), but always envied the big Healeys when they went by me. The BN-1 is clearly a project car, currently standing in boxes, engine and head separated, frame on wheels and amazingly enough through many years of dry storage, almost free of rust or other serious maladies. Current inventory says it is about 95% with all major parts present and accounted for. Just getting started on cleanup and would appreciate any suggestions or tips appropriate to this stage of trying to get the car reassembled and back on the road. Where best to replace parts needed? What sources of information? This will not be a complete restoration but I wish for a decent looking car to drive not show. As for the subject of this email; I saw this title and cover on the Holden Vintage & Classic web site. Anybody know whether it is available in the US or worth the $100 to get it to California.? Dennis Yeast From peter.svilans at rogers.com Wed Nov 25 15:13:52 2009 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:13:52 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] transmission !.D. Message-ID: <000e01ca6e1c$9267b450$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> I should try proofreading before pressing 'send' Should read: -C-series Austins (called SIX Westminsters.... .....) -fall 1956 .......Borg Warner automatic optional By the way, welcome, Jim. Best regards Peter From gbrierton at hotmail.com Wed Nov 25 15:19:00 2009 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (gary brierton) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:19:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Time to dust off US Route 50??? to about Cincinnati?? GaryB -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:47 PM To: ; Subject: Re: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 > In a message dated 11/25/2009 1:36:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > tomleavy at comcast.net writes: > > Is anyone traveling from the East Coast to Illinois to this year's meet? > We are trying to get a group from Central NJ together. How impressive > would > it be to see a long line of Healeys heading West? > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > Tom-- > > Odds are good that I will go but I would not be travelling on > Interstates. > My preferences run to two-lane travel and if you are interested in doing > that please count me in the group. Otherwise I would see you there. > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as gbrierton at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Awgertoo at aol.com Wed Nov 25 16:00:45 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:00:45 EST Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 Message-ID: In a message dated 11/25/2009 5:19:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gbrierton at hotmail.com writes: Time to dust off US Route 50??? to about Cincinnati?? ------------------------------------------------------------- On the way out to Tahoe in 2002 I swung southwest at Cincinnati and took 56 down the north bank of the Ohio River toward Madison. This is VERY pretty country and 56 is a narrow, two-lane road that has obviously spent a good portion of its life underwater as there were signs of recent repairs from washouts. As I drove down the river I passed several tow boats shouldering their way north, pushing into the current which churned its way downstream. The town names in these parts are great: Aurora, Rising Sun and Patriot to name just a few. Others were nothing more than place-names on the map, the communities themselves casualties of the decline of the River Boat trade. At Madison I cruised Main Street and could not get the Healey to make it past "Hinkle's Hamburger Shop" (Founded 1937). They served classic sliders and as I sat at the counter I wondered how these little towns manage to stay open. Whatever, they're a slice of Americana, and the burgers were great! So, Gary, I would recommend not to straighen too much the route to Galena: Heading to Madison only adds 20-30 miles and pays off big-time. Best--Michael Oritt From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Wed Nov 25 16:17:56 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:17:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california Message-ID: Well, the latest in the endeavor to get the black plates on my 64 Healey is that they gave me the registration and stickers but now are telling me they are rescinding that. I have the registration that they say is not valid and not in the DMV files. The problem is that I cannot prove that the first sticker is a 1964 sticker under the pile of stickers on the plate. Since I gave them my white plates, the will have to re manufacture them. And one wounders why governments are loosing money. This has been going on since July with 5 separate visits to the DMV . Has any one been successful in getting the YOM plates registered? There was a post awhile ago that listed the letters by year. Can any one help me re find that information? Thanks Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From rdryman1 at yahoo.com Wed Nov 25 16:30:22 2009 From: rdryman1 at yahoo.com (Richard Dryman) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:30:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 100 in Detail by Bill Piggott In-Reply-To: <517279.18977.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <517279.18977.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <169511.15817.qm@web110308.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Not exactly sure what your question is, but type your subject in Google; there are many many shops selling the book: Amazon, Barnes&Noble, etc. When in doubt go to Google Price I saw is around $35.00 with FREE shipping !!! ________________________________ From: Dennis Yeast To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 4:47:53 PM Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 100 in Detail by Bill Piggott As for the subject of this email; I saw this title and cover on the Holden Vintage & Classic web site. Anybody know whether it is available in the US or worth the $100 to get it to California.? Dennis Yeast From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Nov 25 17:09:11 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:09:11 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 100 in Detail by Bill Piggott In-Reply-To: <517279.18977.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <517279.18977.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <85CFFFBE840446CCA76A0ED85C5DDCA5@GregPC> Hi Dennis, I don't have a 100 but used to and still linger on the list, it ran when I bought it but barely, in the course of ownership redid pretty much everything. Congratulations, the 100 is one spcial british car, ran at Le Mans, Sebring, designed by Donald Healey and his small crew, etc. just as pretty and fifties British as can be. Anywho as far as the Piggot book it is a great resource and read, but I don't know if I'd pay $100 for one, if you haven't check Amazon.com, Ebay etc. should hopefully come up cheaper, I think I got mine for under $30, but that was when it first came out sometimes they go up when out of print. You may also want to get the Anderson Moment Healey Restoration Guide or the Clausager Orignal Austin Healey, and the factory manual for the 100, which is the best choice for a shop manual, as there is no Haynes or Autobooks option for the early cars. They were printed in hardcover and seemed to have survived pretty well, maybe better than the cars themselves, there always seems to be a few for sale on E-bay. If you are interested in the history of the cars the Geoff Healey books are a great resource. As to parts and what not for the early cars much is made new, but in some cases you will have to rely on used, others on the list may recommend their favorites other than the usual suspects (Moss and Victoria British). Lastly, this list is a great resource and you will find very many helpful and knowledgable people here. If you decide to restore it to Le Mans spec just be sure to ask the listers their opinion before you decide on how to refer to it unless you are particularly thick skinned! Greg Lemon From edriver at sasktel.net Wed Nov 25 17:47:26 2009 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:47:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 100 in Detail by Bill Piggott In-Reply-To: <85CFFFBE840446CCA76A0ED85C5DDCA5@GregPC> References: <517279.18977.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <85CFFFBE840446CCA76A0ED85C5DDCA5@GregPC> Message-ID: <4B0DD01E.6040506@sasktel.net> Hi Greg The Piggot book is available from Holdens in the UK for 35UKP or about $59US and much cheaper from Amazon.com. Kind regards Ed Saskatoon Greg Lemon wrote: > Hi Dennis, I don't have a 100 but used to and still linger on the > list, it ran when I bought it but barely, in the course of ownership > redid pretty much everything. Congratulations, the 100 is one spcial > british car, ran at Le Mans, Sebring, designed by Donald Healey and > his small crew, etc. just as pretty and fifties British as can be. > > Anywho as far as the Piggot book it is a great resource and read, but > I don't know if I'd pay $100 for one, if you haven't check Amazon.com, > Ebay etc. should hopefully come up cheaper, I think I got mine for > under $30, but that was when it first came out sometimes they go up > when out of print. > > You may also want to get the Anderson Moment Healey Restoration Guide > or the Clausager Orignal Austin Healey, and the factory manual for the > 100, which is the best choice for a shop manual, as there is no Haynes > or Autobooks option for the early cars. They were printed in > hardcover and seemed to have survived pretty well, maybe better than > the cars themselves, there always seems to be a few for sale on > E-bay. If you are interested in the history of the cars the Geoff > Healey books are a great resource. > > As to parts and what not for the early cars much is made new, but in > some cases you will have to rely on used, others on the list may > recommend their favorites other than the usual suspects (Moss and > Victoria British). > > Lastly, this list is a great resource and you will find very many > helpful and knowledgable people here. > > If you decide to restore it to Le Mans spec just be sure to ask the > listers their opinion before you decide on how to refer to it unless > you are particularly thick skinned! > > Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as edriver at sasktel.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Wed Nov 25 18:09:05 2009 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:09:05 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california References: Message-ID: <1078D10BDD1540D78D37D12570C219F1@XPS400> I put YOM plates on my 61 BN& but I purchased a separate '61 sticker to put on the plate. I have a second '61 sticker but that won't help you. I had a lot of trouble at the DMV office but I went prepared with a copy of the Vehicle code and fought my way up the chain of command until I finally reached a supervisor who finally gave the approval. The old plate must not be registered to any other car. My plates were yellow with black letters. I suggest you get the Vehicle Code to review and make sure you have done everything necessary then just keep at it. You might need to try a different local office. Good Luck,, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Kahn" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california > Well, the latest in the endeavor to get the black plates on my 64 Healey > is > that they gave me the registration and stickers but now are telling me > they > are rescinding that. I have the registration that they say is not valid > and > not in the DMV files. The problem is that I cannot prove that the first > sticker is a 1964 sticker under the pile of stickers on the plate. Since I > gave them my white plates, the will have to re manufacture them. And one > wounders why governments are loosing money. This has been going on since > July > with 5 separate visits to the DMV . Has any one been successful in getting > the > YOM plates registered? There was a post awhile ago that listed the letters > by > year. Can any one help me re find that information? > Thanks > Rich Kahn > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT > AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ronfineesq at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 18:20:03 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:20:03 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] led brAke lights fro rear reflectors (scan) In-Reply-To: References: <0E0AD327-4C26-4746-8FD6-B4D85955628E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Guys - The LEDs that Pep Boys sells are just typically bright and put out less total light than an 1157, but if behind the car may be comparable to an 1157. The Eagle Eye 5 lights that Autolumination sells are VERY bright, much brighter than a traditional brake bulb. I put them back there for safety. They may be expensive but they are a different animal altogether. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:43 AM, S and T Miller wrote: > WOW! Got a overheaming responce, several listees want a copy. If it is > ok, I > will have my wife scan it on Monday (while at work) and send out electronic > copies to everyone that requested one. If anyone else would like one please > just e-mail me and I will send one. Thanks, Shawn > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 25 18:29:21 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:29:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Clark W. Grizwalt owned a Healey Message-ID: Was watching the all time great movie "National Lampoon's Vacation", Clark said "Honey remember when we drove down to Ft. Lauderdale in my Austin Healey". I have always loved the movie, but never heard the AH mention before. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 25 18:57:10 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:57:10 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 References: <793085580.8558461259172618748.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <001401ca6e3b$c49cb2d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Wish I still used a credit card. Too rich for my blood. Keep us posted on your drive. Thanks, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:10 PM Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 > First, Happy Thanksgiving to all. Among other things to be thankful for > this year, I count this great community of car enthusiasts, and the > friends we have made along the way. How fortunate we are to own these > great old cars that bring us so much pleasure. > > > > It was almost a year ago that we decided to expedite the restoration > timeline and be ready in time for this past Conclave. I figure this > weekend is a good time to kick the discussion around the dinner table and > begin making plans. > > > Is anyone traveling from the East Coast to Illinois to this year's meet? > We are trying to get a group from Central NJ together. How impressive > would it be to see a long line of Healeys heading West? > > > All the best to you and yours. > > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From gbrierton at hotmail.com Wed Nov 25 19:29:20 2009 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (gary brierton) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:29:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Clark W. Grizwalt owned a Healey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The original?...going to Wally World? GaryB -------------------------------------------------- From: "S and T Miller" Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:29 PM To: Subject: [Healeys] Clark W. Grizwalt owned a Healey > Was watching the all time great movie "National Lampoon's Vacation", Clark > said "Honey remember when we drove down to Ft. Lauderdale in my Austin > Healey". I have always loved the movie, but never heard the AH mention > before. > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M > FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as gbrierton at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Nov 25 20:06:05 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:06:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Clark W. Grizwalt owned a Healey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000e01ca6e45$65396720$2fac3560$@net> All I want to remember about that movie is the pool scene with Christie Brinkley. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gary brierton Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:29 PM To: S and T Miller Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clark W. Grizwalt owned a Healey The original?...going to Wally World? GaryB -------------------------------------------------- From: "S and T Miller" Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:29 PM To: Subject: [Healeys] Clark W. Grizwalt owned a Healey > Was watching the all time great movie "National Lampoon's Vacation", Clark > said "Honey remember when we drove down to Ft. Lauderdale in my Austin > Healey". I have always loved the movie, but never heard the AH mention > before. > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_ M > FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as gbrierton at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive From gbrierton at hotmail.com Wed Nov 25 20:14:08 2009 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (gary brierton) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:14:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On one of our trips to a delegates meeting in the Bullet, we went up to Gallipolis, Ohio then followed Ohio-7 to US-52 to US-56 through the towns you mention. You are absolutely right. Breathtaking scenery. Takes you back to the riverboat days. Houses... no, mansions with widow walk balconies; other houses reflecting dirt poor working families. Saw a miniature paddle wheel in the town of Vevay. I, too, highly recommend that route! GaryB From: Awgertoo at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:00 PM To: gbrierton at hotmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Conclave 2010 In a message dated 11/25/2009 5:19:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gbrierton at hotmail.com writes: Time to dust off US Route 50??? to about Cincinnati?? ------------------------------------------------------------- On the way out to Tahoe in 2002 I swung southwest at Cincinnati and took 56 down the north bank of the Ohio River toward Madison. This is VERY pretty country and 56 is a narrow, two-lane road that has obviously spent a good portion of its life underwater as there were signs of recent repairs from washouts. As I drove down the river I passed several tow boats shouldering their way north, pushing into the current which churned its way downstream. The town names in these parts are great: Aurora, Rising Sun and Patriot to name just a few. Others were nothing more than place-names on the map, the communities themselves casualties of the decline of the River Boat trade. At Madison I cruised Main Street and could not get the Healey to make it past "Hinkle's Hamburger Shop" (Founded 1937). They served classic sliders and as I sat at the counter I wondered how these little towns manage to stay open. Whatever, they're a slice of Americana, and the burgers were great! So, Gary, I would recommend not to straighen too much the route to Galena: Heading to Madison only adds 20-30 miles and pays off big-time. Best--Michael Oritt From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 25 20:25:07 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:25:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Clark W. Grizwalt owned a Healey In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Yep, the Wally World one. It is early on somewhere around the St Louis stop and where she puts her head in Clark's lap, then gets stuck under the steering wheel- just before that. John- Yes, Christie Brinkley!!!!!! She must have known he owned a Healey!! The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." > From: gbrierton at hotmail.com > To: stmiller96 at hotmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clark W. Grizwalt owned a Healey > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:29:20 -0500 > > The original?...going to Wally World? > GaryB > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "S and T Miller" > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:29 PM > To: > Subject: [Healeys] Clark W. Grizwalt owned a Healey > > > Was watching the all time great movie "National Lampoon's Vacation", Clark > > said "Honey remember when we drove down to Ft. Lauderdale in my Austin > > Healey". I have always loved the movie, but never heard the AH mention > > before. > > > > The Millers > > "British Car Nuts" > > > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > > drive." > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. > > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M > > FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as gbrierton at hotmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 From bn1 at pacbell.net Wed Nov 25 21:06:09 2009 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:06:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Now LED's In-Reply-To: References: <0E0AD327-4C26-4746-8FD6-B4D85955628E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B0DFEB1.2030209@pacbell.net> Alan and List, First, there is a very big warning: All LED's that I know of are NEGATIVE GROUND ONLY! Hook them up the other way and in about two seconds you'll get a flash and a small amount of smoke being let out of the bulb. (I am talking about running and tail lights only, not the reflector to bulb conversion.) The bulbs Alan mentions are the only way to go. If you replace the tail/brake lights only, they will work with your stock flasher, although they will flash a little more quickly. If you decide to go all four corners, you will have to replace the flasher with an electronic one. They can be purchased from Pep Boys or where ever for ~$14. The bulbs will fit under your original lenses. No other modifications, e.g. adding a resistor, are necessary. The only problem is that they won't seat in your Lucas bulb holders! I have these bulbs in stock and for sale which have the additional machinings so they will fit. They are direct replacements: Remove the lens and 1157, insert my bulb and replace the lens. I always advise that you first do one side and compare it to your other tungsten light. Believe me, you will be amazed. I also have LED replacements for the lights in the instrument cluster. With them, you can actually see your instruments when driving at night! As LED's are only on or off, you should not replace the generator light. How many of you have trafficators that don't cancel? This bulb will make your green roadster indicator so bright that your friend three Healeys back will be able to see it and it'll be a clue you to turn it off. If your car is negative ground or you are considering making the change, please contact me off List for prices and information. For the holidays, what better way to celebrate than buying yourself an early present to make your loved ones, Healey and passengers, more visible and safer? Bill Red Car Enterprises Alan Seigrist wrote: > Guys - > > The LEDs that Pep Boys sells are just typically bright and put out less > total light than an 1157, but if behind the car may be comparable to an > 1157. > > The Eagle Eye 5 lights that Autolumination sells are VERY bright, much > brighter than a traditional brake bulb. I put them back there for safety. > They may be expensive but they are a different animal altogether. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Nov 25 21:26:37 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:26:37 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Clark W. Grizwalt owned a Healey In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Funny the movie just started on one of my cable channels of course I got distracted when the scene came up..but...Everything is on the internet, and the dialogue about the AH in Vacation is actually kind of fun "Honey? Remember when we were in college... ...and drove to Fort Lauderdale in my Austin Healy? I haven't thought about that for a long time. Remember what we did in the car? It's amazing we didn't get into an accident. Want to relive a fond memory?" From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 22:39:39 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:39:39 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Now LED's Message-ID: <4b0e146d.9513f30a.5063.1bd0@mx.google.com> Thanks my car is negative ground sent from my cellular PDA I Erbs -----Original Message----- From: Mr. Bill Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:06 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Now LED's Alan and List, First, there is a very big warning: All LED's that I know of are NEGATIVE GROUND ONLY! Hook them up the other way and in about two seconds you'll get a flash and a small amount of smoke being let out of the bulb. (I am talking about running and tail lights only, not the reflector to bulb conversion.) The bulbs Alan mentions are the only way to go. If you replace the tail/brake lights only, they will work with your stock flasher, although they will flash a little more quickly. If you decide to go all four corners, you will have to replace the flasher with an electronic one. They can be purchased from Pep Boys or where ever for ~$14. The bulbs will fit under your original lenses. No other modifications, e.g. adding a resistor, are necessary. The only problem is that they won't seat in your Lucas bulb holders! I have these bulbs in stock and for sale which have the additional machinings so they will fit. They are direct replacements: Remove the lens and 1157, insert my bulb and replace the lens. I always advise that you first do one side and compare it to your other tungsten light. Believe me, you will be amazed. I also have LED replacements for the lights in the instrument cluster. With them, you can actually see your instruments when driving at night! As LED's are only on or off, you should not replace the generator light. How many of you have trafficators that don't cancel? This bulb will make your green roadster indicator so bright that your friend three Healeys back will be able to see it and it'll be a clue you to turn it off. If your car is negative ground or you are considering making the change, please contact me off List for prices and information. For the holidays, what better way to celebrate than buying yourself an early present to make your loved ones, Healey and passengers, more visible and safer? Bill Red Car Enterprises Alan Seigrist wrote: > Guys - > > The LEDs that Pep Boys sells are just typically bright and put out less > total light than an 1157, but if behind the car may be comparable to an > 1157. > > The Eagle Eye 5 lights that Autolumination sells are VERY bright, much From robertlarson at att.net Wed Nov 25 22:44:16 2009 From: robertlarson at att.net (Bob) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:44:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Now LED's In-Reply-To: <4B0DFEB1.2030209@pacbell.net> References: <0E0AD327-4C26-4746-8FD6-B4D85955628E@gmail.com> <4B0DFEB1.2030209@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <4B0E15B0.2080504@att.net> There are bulbs that are not polarized. Here: http://classicautobulbs.com/6volt.html And I have seen others. However care needs to be exercised if you don't know! Hooked up backwards they may be very bright for a few milliseconds. Making the bulbs non polarized is actually pretty simple with a couple of steering diodes. But the extra diodes cost a few cents and will be be necessary in very few instances so they save the cost. Leds are getting quite bright. That's what is in use on the police cruisers nowadays. Bob From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Thu Nov 26 06:00:17 2009 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:00:17 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Radio and Aerial Location Message-ID: <4B0E7BE1.7020205@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> Blokes More stuff on a much discussed subject ( thousands of opinions out there) Thanks again to Rick Regan. Optional Equipment: and I quote" Radio: usually dealer-installedas follows: . tuner attached to parcel shelf. .power unit mounted on fresh-air transfer box just inboard of parcel shelf. .aerial mounted to passenger-side front fender,about 2 inches ahead of foward windshield pillar foot." See all those old club magazines were not useless. Join two clubs and get twice the value Joe From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Nov 26 07:15:36 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:15:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Now LED's In-Reply-To: <4b0e146d.9513f30a.5063.1bd0@mx.google.com> References: <4b0e146d.9513f30a.5063.1bd0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4B0E8D88.9090203@comcast.net> re: "Hook them up the other way and in about two seconds you'll get a flash and a small amount of smoke being let out of the bulb." That doesn't make sense. LEDs are diodes ("light emitting") and when reverse-biased will just block current flow; i.e. nothing will happen (they won't light up). If their rated voltage is exceeded--presumably, they're rated for 12V or more--they'll be destroyed regardless of which way they're wired. Maybe there's other components in these kits that could fry if reverse-biased, but a diode won't (if the diodes are 5V there's probably some resistors to reduce voltage, but resistors don't care which way the current is going). If they're in a socket plug--like a bulb--then just switching the internal leads for ground and power--if it's possible to get to them--would allow them to work in a pos. ground car (as long as there's nothing else 'hot' that could be grounded). Happy Thanksgiving all, bs > > First, there is a very big warning: All LED's that I know of are > NEGATIVE GROUND ONLY! Hook them up the other way and in about two > seconds you'll get a flash and a small amount of smoke being let out of > the bulb. > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From peter.svilans at rogers.com Thu Nov 26 07:45:51 2009 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:45:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Radio and Aerial Location Message-ID: <001201ca6ea7$26928210$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> Well, hats off to my friend Rick Regan, but a dealer fitted radio could vary according to how long the apprentice had partied the night before. No "opinion" is required for the official factory Smiths Radiomobile (available through Canadian BMC dealers at least), which came with a comprehensive installation kit specific to a given make & model, as well as very precise instructions and diagrams. The Austin-Healey 6 cyl roadster kit came with an oval speaker inside a black cardboard enclosure with a chrome grille. There were two brackets for hanging the control unit under the heater box, and a packet of capacitors for noise reduction, all cushioned in the kit box by wood shavings. The aerial was mounted " ...in the wing on the left hand side of the body, on left or right hand drive vehicles" according to the instructions. The diagram shows it as 14 3/4" ahead of the fender/ door gap and 1 3/8" outside of the fender beading. This position was to keep it as far as possible from the noise-generating coil. This is a complicated subject, as many models of Radiomobile were produced over the years and these paralleled the various models of Healey as they came along. Best regards Peter From m.brouillette at comcast.net Thu Nov 26 07:52:07 2009 From: m.brouillette at comcast.net (m.brouillette at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Anyone need a flatbed trailer? In-Reply-To: <4B0E8D88.9090203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1627713857.8180721259247127304.JavaMail.root@sz0097a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Anyone in the NH, MA or VT area looking for a cheap flatbed trailer? Don't know the person, but saw it and thought of you guys... Mike B 59 BT7 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220517051056 From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Thu Nov 26 08:47:29 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:47:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Now LED Message-ID: I have had mine (Pep Boys) in for about three years now in my positive ground 59' 100-6 with no issue. I have also put them in other positive ground AH cars and they are just fine as well. I will say that the LED light is ON/OFF where as the lower standard bulb seems to BURN, so even though they blink/ light up at the same time they look like they are lighting at a very slightly different rate. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID2472 7::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 From twillig at ruda.de Thu Nov 26 10:02:28 2009 From: twillig at ruda.de (Thomas Willig) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:02:28 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] SU fuelpump repair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am restoring the original fuelpump of my BN2. After adjusting the membrane according to the instructions, I connect the pump to a battery ...wonderful regular clicking! After I have assembled the top part to the bottom part, I re-checked the operation of the pump and found out that the membrane somehow is jammed. Did I do the membrane adjustment the wrong way? Any advises? Thomas Willig From info at atteanlodge.com Thu Nov 26 11:03:24 2009 From: info at atteanlodge.com (Attean Lake Lodge) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:03:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] distributor off Message-ID: How can a distributor be 180 degrees off? with my engine at 15 degrees BTDC the rotor is pointing at #6 instead of #1. The drive is at the correct "20 to 2" position and the offset on the drive dog only allows it to be fitted one way. Many thanks and Happy T-day. Brad Holden 67 BJ8 From rdavies1 at cox.net Thu Nov 26 11:11:30 2009 From: rdavies1 at cox.net (Ron Davies) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:11:30 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rich: I must have missed the first part but obviously your car has not been continuously registered, correct? I have seen many classics at CA car shows that wanted the black plate who did the following: (Not legal, but everyone I've talked to even if pulled over, hasn't had a problem with the police.) They get a CA customized plate with the three letters and three numbers you had originally. Then they send the plate to someone that re-paints them. If you are "run" the plates show up as registered. Obviously the wrong colors but people I've talked with say the cops have better things to do than hassel you on that. Just one possible solution. I don't know where you are located, but I see them at shows in SoCal all the time. Ron ---------- Well, the latest in the endeavor to get the black plates on my 64 Healey is that they gave me the registration and stickers but now are telling me they are rescinding that. I have the registration that they say is not valid and not in the DMV files. The problem is that I cannot prove that the first sticker is a 1964 sticker under the pile of stickers on the plate. Since I gave them my white plates, the will have to re manufacture them. And one wounders why governments are loosing money. This has been going on since July with 5 separate visits to the DMV . Has any one been successful in getting the YOM plates registered? There was a post awhile ago that listed the letters by year. Can any one help me re find that information? Thanks Rich Kahn From frogeye at porterscustom.com Thu Nov 26 11:29:37 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:29:37 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] distributor off In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's not on the compression stroke. Turn it again. The valves on #6 will be 'rocking" One going up and one going down simultaneously. And the valves on # 1 will both be closed (compression) when it is correct. Then check the position of the rotor to be appox. Pointing at the coil wire connection. If not pull the dist. and drive gear to be in the position you want. The only reason for the 20 to 2 is to allow room for the dist. body to move enough without interference of the vacuum chamber.. The dist. doesn't care so long as the rotor is pointing to the # 1 wire when #1 is on compression stroke. dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Attean Lake Lodge Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:03 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] distributor off How can a distributor be 180 degrees off? with my engine at 15 degrees BTDC the rotor is pointing at #6 instead of #1. The drive is at the correct "20 to 2" position and the offset on the drive dog only allows it to be fitted one way. Many thanks and Happy T-day. Brad Holden 67 BJ8 From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Nov 26 11:48:05 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:48:05 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] distributor off In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FD0F41B-A32C-4AFF-81AD-3E41E922DAF0@gmail.com> Try turning your engine around;). Actually if is was 180 out and pointed at the wrong pidton when installed you would have this situation. Maybe had 6 at tdc not 1 on instAll I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Nov 26, 2009, at 10:03 AM, "Attean Lake Lodge" wrote: > How can a distributor be 180 degrees off? with my engine at 15 > degrees BTDC > the rotor is pointing at #6 instead of #1. The drive is at the > correct "20 to > 2" position and the offset on the drive dog only allows it to be > fitted one > way. Many thanks and Happy T-day. > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From kags at shaw.ca Thu Nov 26 11:51:13 2009 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:51:13 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] distributor off References: Message-ID: Brad: If you are sure that the distributor drive gear is correctly fitted and in the correct position - I suggest that you do this stuff with the engine at the TDC mark, making absolutely certain that it is #1 at TDC and not #6 - (been there, done that!), then the distributor points cam is mounted 180 degrees off - an easy enough fix. I've seen cars with that plus another 180 degree fault in the distributor drive running completely normally - until someone goes to service the ignition system. Tends to make a guy crazy. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BT7 tri-carb BJ8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Attean Lake Lodge" To: Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:03 AM Subject: [Healeys] distributor off How can a distributor be 180 degrees off? with my engine at 15 degrees BTDC the rotor is pointing at #6 instead of #1. The drive is at the correct "20 to 2" position and the offset on the drive dog only allows it to be fitted one way. Many thanks and Happy T-day. Brad Holden 67 BJ8 From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Nov 26 12:12:41 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:12:41 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] yom again Message-ID: The car has been registered in CA for 7 years and Idaho prior. It was an original CA car cause it has the 64 tag on the firewall. Ron, I like the repaint black idea. And thanks for talking to me yesterday. I was at work and getting interruptions but I learned a lot. _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From dwflagg at juno.com Thu Nov 26 12:36:16 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:36:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving Message-ID: <20091126.113718.17206.29459@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> To all a very Happy Thanksgiving. I hope that you are sharing this day with family and friends and that we can look forward to an upcoming New Year filled with the spirit that has made this Country great. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Top Psychology Degrees Find schools offering psychology programs online. 3 easy steps! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=fVkNyThafzgf9P3AzXEvlAAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAADiYjT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZmkwAAAAA= From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Nov 26 12:50:07 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:50:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <751d05480911261150s521b2825g5df33edff3d7f690@mail.gmail.com> Ron, Maybe the local California cops but NOT the CHP (California Highway Patrol.) In case those of us who live in California have forgotten, the state has no money. Tickets for license modification are a money generator for the state and the CHP is just looking for any infraction. I for one would not give them the opportunity. Twenty years ago Gordon Brockman and I were towing the 100M that I found in Orange County back to his shop in San Diego. The car had sat for 20 years in storage and hadn't been registered. We were using a tow dolly and since the rear wheel were on a public highway the CHP officer who pulled us over gave Gordon a ticket for which he then owed back registration, licensing, ticket fee and fines to the tune of $1,600.00! That's back when CA had money, we're broke now. Cheers, Curt On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Ron Davies wrote: > Rich: > I must have missed the first part but obviously your car has not been > continuously registered, correct? > I have seen many classics at CA car shows that wanted the black plate who > did the following: > (Not legal, but everyone I've talked to even if pulled over, hasn't had a > problem with the police.) > They get a CA customized plate with the three letters and three numbers you > had originally. Then they send the plate to someone that re-paints them. > If you are "run" the plates show up as registered. Obviously the wrong > colors but people I've talked with say the cops have better things to do > than hassel you on that. > Just one possible solution. I don't know where you are located, but I see > them at shows in SoCal all the time. > Ron > ---------- > Well, the latest in the endeavor to get the black plates on my 64 Healey is > that they gave me the registration and stickers but now are telling me > they > are rescinding that. I have the registration that they say is not valid and > not in the DMV files. The problem is that I cannot prove that the first > sticker is a 1964 sticker under the pile of stickers on the plate. Since I > gave them my white plates, the will have to re manufacture them. And one > wounders why governments are loosing money. This has been going on since > July > with 5 separate visits to the DMV . Has any one been successful in getting > the > YOM plates registered? There was a post awhile ago that listed the letters > by > year. Can any one help me re find that information? > Thanks > Rich Kahn > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From rdavies1 at cox.net Thu Nov 26 13:15:40 2009 From: rdavies1 at cox.net (Ron Davies) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:15:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california In-Reply-To: <751d05480911261150s521b2825g5df33edff3d7f690@mail.gmail.com> References: <751d05480911261150s521b2825g5df33edff3d7f690@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You're probably right. I did say it was illegal :-( Ron PS not only do have no money, we are about to default. _____ From: Curt/Nancy Arndt [mailto:cnaarndt at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:50 AM To: rdavies1 at cox.net Cc: Richard Kahn; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] YOM plates for california Ron, Maybe the local California cops but NOT the CHP (California Highway Patrol.) In case those of us who live in California have forgotten, the state has no money. Tickets for license modification are a money generator for the state and the CHP is just looking for any infraction. I for one would not give them the opportunity. Twenty years ago Gordon Brockman and I were towing the 100M that I found in Orange County back to his shop in San Diego. The car had sat for 20 years in storage and hadn't been registered. We were using a tow dolly and since the rear wheel were on a public highway the CHP officer who pulled us over gave Gordon a ticket for which he then owed back registration, licensing, ticket fee and fines to the tune of $1,600.00! That's back when CA had money, we're broke now. Cheers, Curt On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Ron Davies wrote: Rich: I must have missed the first part but obviously your car has not been continuously registered, correct? I have seen many classics at CA car shows that wanted the black plate who did the following: (Not legal, but everyone I've talked to even if pulled over, hasn't had a problem with the police.) They get a CA customized plate with the three letters and three numbers you had originally. Then they send the plate to someone that re-paints them. If you are "run" the plates show up as registered. Obviously the wrong colors but people I've talked with say the cops have better things to do than hassel you on that. Just one possible solution. I don't know where you are located, but I see them at shows in SoCal all the time. Ron ---------- Well, the latest in the endeavor to get the black plates on my 64 Healey is that they gave me the registration and stickers but now are telling me they are rescinding that. I have the registration that they say is not valid and not in the DMV files. The problem is that I cannot prove that the first sticker is a 1964 sticker under the pile of stickers on the plate. Since I gave them my white plates, the will have to re manufacture them. And one wounders why governments are loosing money. This has been going on since July with 5 separate visits to the DMV . Has any one been successful in getting the YOM plates registered? There was a post awhile ago that listed the letters by year. Can any one help me re find that information? Thanks Rich Kahn Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Nov 26 14:47:52 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:47:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving In-Reply-To: <20091126.113718.17206.29459@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> References: <20091126.113718.17206.29459@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Cheers to all world wide. I am grateful for this amazing community. Thank you Al Gore I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Nov 26, 2009, at 11:36 AM, dwflagg wrote: > To all a very Happy Thanksgiving. I hope that you are sharing this day > with family and friends and that we can look forward to an upcoming > New > Year filled with the spirit that has made this Country great. > > Doug > ____________________________________________________________ > Top Psychology Degrees > Find schools offering psychology programs online. 3 easy steps! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=fVkNyThafzgf9P3AzXEvlAAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAADiYjT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZmkwAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Nov 26 15:40:19 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:40:19 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] distributor off In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brad - The drive dog's slot for the dizzy is very slightly offset so it is easy to confuse the 22 position when it is 180 deg off. I suspect you need to take the drive dog out, flip it around 180, put it back in, then you should be ready to go. Don't ask how I know to double check this..... On 11/27/09, Attean Lake Lodge wrote: > How can a distributor be 180 degrees off? with my engine at 15 degrees BTDC > the rotor is pointing at #6 instead of #1. The drive is at the correct "20 > to > 2" position and the offset on the drive dog only allows it to be fitted one > way. Many thanks and Happy T-day. > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Thu Nov 26 15:52:21 2009 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:52:21 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving In-Reply-To: <20091126.113718.17206.29459@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> References: <20091126.113718.17206.29459@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <3F6B02410E80C246B6B83165C250C21506A9C1A9@SLUGPEXMC02.central.det.win> G'day Thanks Doug. Although I am not too sure what it all means as we do not celebrate Thanksgiving in this part of the world. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dwflagg Sent: Friday, 27 November 2009 6:36 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving To all a very Happy Thanksgiving. I hope that you are sharing this day with family and friends and that we can look forward to an upcoming New Year filled with the spirit that has made this Country great. Doug ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Nov 26 16:20:29 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:20:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving References: <20091126.113718.17206.29459@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> <3F6B02410E80C246B6B83165C250C21506A9C1A9@SLUGPEXMC02.central.det.win> Message-ID: <669A88BEA0824BD5AABF980D6012A263@LIFEBOOK> Thanks Doug for the good wishes. We Canadians celebrated Thanksgiving the second Monday of October. Our next big turkey feed will be at Christmas. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Quinn, Patrick" To: "'dwflagg'" ; Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving > G'day > > Thanks Doug. Although I am not too sure what it all means as we do not > celebrate Thanksgiving in this part of the world. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of dwflagg > Sent: Friday, 27 November 2009 6:36 AM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Thanksgiving > > To all a very Happy Thanksgiving. I hope that you are sharing this day > with family and friends and that we can look forward to an upcoming New > Year filled with the spirit that has made this Country great. > > Doug > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bn1 at pacbell.net Thu Nov 26 16:36:22 2009 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:36:22 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Now LED's In-Reply-To: <4B0E8D88.9090203@comcast.net> References: <4b0e146d.9513f30a.5063.1bd0@mx.google.com> <4B0E8D88.9090203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B0F10F6.5080905@pacbell.net> Hi Bob Larson, Bob Spindell and List, First, I know absolutely nothing about the electrics and doubt I could hold a decent conversation with either of you to Bob's! :-( I use a homemade display case with three Lucas bulb sockets for my "show and tell". The sockets hold a tungsten, halogen and LED bulb for comparison. It's powered by my 12V battery charger. I had no problems leaving the bulbs on both low and high brightness for extended periods. When asked about the positive ground, I sacrificed one bulb by putting the charger's positive clamp on the outer (ground) section and touched the bottom electrode with the negative clamp. It went puff and let the smoke out. I anticipate being told that my charger was putting out more than 12V. OK, if that's the case, why didn't it blow the LED in the comparison? I don't have too many friends with Healeys that are still positive ground but I'll try to quickly find one for a true test. Until such time I will stand by my negative ground only warning. I hope everyone's turkey is/was moist and tasty! Bill Red Car Enterprises Bob Spidell wrote: > re: "Hook them up the other way and in about two seconds you'll get a > flash and a small amount of smoke being let out of the bulb." > > > That doesn't make sense. LEDs are diodes ("light emitting") and when > reverse-biased will just block current flow; i.e. nothing will happen > (they won't light up). If their rated voltage is > exceeded--presumably, they're rated for 12V or more--they'll be > destroyed regardless of which way they're wired. Maybe there's other > components in these kits that could fry if reverse-biased, but a diode > won't (if the diodes are 5V there's probably some resistors to reduce > voltage, but resistors don't care which way the current is going). > > If they're in a socket plug--like a bulb--then just switching the > internal leads for ground and power--if it's possible to get to > them--would allow them to work in a pos. ground car (as long as > there's nothing else 'hot' that could be grounded). > > Happy Thanksgiving all, > > bs >> >> First, there is a very big warning: All LED's that I know of are >> NEGATIVE GROUND ONLY! Hook them up the other way and in about two >> seconds you'll get a flash and a small amount of smoke being let out of >> the bulb. From austin.healey at gmail.com Thu Nov 26 18:01:08 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:01:08 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] distributor off In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <364A736E-4AD9-4B1E-875C-FC57BF0039C3@gmail.com> Brad, Sounds like You have a 6 cyl austin sedan cap on your distributor. Where is the cutout notch for the coil wire connector located?? Sedan caps are 180 degrees out The caps are identical, and can be used, they just fit on 180 degrees out, and the plug wires look wrong As an aside, the sedan caps were used on the ultra rare Lucas 23d 6 cyl (no vacuum advance) distributors used on works triple weber 6 cyl Healeys, as the non advance distributor body has the coil wire connector on the other side of the distributor body. Chris Sent from my iPhone On 27/11/2009, at 5:03 AM, "Attean Lake Lodge" wrote: > How can a distributor be 180 degrees off? with my engine at 15 > degrees BTDC > the rotor is pointing at #6 instead of #1. The drive is at the > correct "20 to > 2" position and the offset on the drive dog only allows it to be > fitted one > way. Many thanks and Happy T-day. > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 > ____________________________ From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Nov 26 20:11:59 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Now LED's In-Reply-To: <4B0F10F6.5080905@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <1916099469.6911561259291519180.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Here's an excellent explanation of diodes: http://www.faqs.org/docs/electric/Semi/SEMI_3.html It notes LEDs may have a lower breakdown voltage when reverse-biased, but this won't necessarily fry the diode, just allow current to pass when you don't want it to (like in an AC circuit). Have reversed a few LEDs, and never seen one smoke. Anyway, the fact you tried and it ruined the unit is sufficient for me--there is probably other supporting circuitry that didn't like reversed polarity and may have given up their smoke. It appears at least one other maker has constructed a polarity insensitive unit. AFAIK, LEDs will only light when properly forward-biased, these units must have some sort of circuitry--DC-DC conversion maybe--that allows this, but it's beyond my knowledge. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Bill" Hi Bob Larson, Bob Spindell and List, First, I know absolutely nothing about the electrics and doubt I could hold a decent conversation with either of you to Bob's! :-( I use a homemade display case with three Lucas bulb sockets for my "show and tell". The sockets hold a tungsten, halogen and LED bulb for comparison. It's powered by my 12V battery charger. I had no problems leaving the bulbs on both low and high brightness for extended periods. When asked about the positive ground, I sacrificed one bulb by putting the charger's positive clamp on the outer (ground) section and touched the bottom electrode with the negative clamp. It went puff and let the smoke out. I anticipate being told that my charger was putting out more than 12V. OK, if that's the case, why didn't it blow the LED in the comparison? I don't have too many friends with Healeys that are still positive ground but I'll try to quickly find one for a true test. Until such time I will stand by my negative ground only warning. I hope everyone's turkey is/was moist and tasty! Bill Red Car Enterprises From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Thu Nov 26 21:14:12 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:14:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Now LEDs Message-ID: No need to test (Pep boys LED). My positive ground has ran them for several years now, and no issue. When I send out the parts list/ procedure on Monday you will be able to see that the wire harness connection 9bullet connector) is soldered to the side of the socket. Maybe that is why it works? The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From jessmd1 at comcast.net Thu Nov 26 21:51:15 2009 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:51:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] aluminum paint Message-ID: <30681F7E-0CD0-452E-ABFE-05B8284F7BFF@comcast.net> What is the best product for painting aluminum to make it look like chrome? From GSFuqua1 at aol.com Thu Nov 26 23:12:27 2009 From: GSFuqua1 at aol.com (GSFuqua1 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:12:27 EST Subject: [Healeys] aluminum paint Message-ID: Eastwood has a couple of products you may want to check out. I have used them and the results are decent BUT there is NO substitute for actual Chrome. Cheers, Gary Fuqua Classic Sports Cars Branson, MO From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Nov 27 01:01:38 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:01:38 EST Subject: [Healeys] Thanks for the Internet Message-ID: In a message dated 11/26/09 7:40:32 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Cheers to all world wide. I am grateful for this amazing community. > Thank you Al Gore > And Doug Engelbart who invented the Mouse and most of what we know today as our computer interface, and George J. Feeney, who actually did invent the basic concept of the internet but didn't know it at the time -- he was just trying to get people's packet messages to the GE computer that was least busy at that point in the running of their programs on the GE Timesharing system. Best Gary From lists at brits-n-pieces.com Fri Nov 27 02:11:56 2009 From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (Eric Frenken) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:11:56 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] paging Josef Eckert Message-ID: <002f01ca6f41$ab333e20$0199ba60$@com> Would you please contact me offline. Thanks. Eric Frenken Heinsberg From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 27 06:51:53 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:51:53 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california In-Reply-To: References: , , <751d05480911261150s521b2825g5df33edff3d7f690@mail.gmail.com>, Message-ID: Hopefully, you'll excuse me for this ... Said in my best Groucho voice: So, if California defaults, does that mean there's less danger of it falling into the ocean? :) On a related note, I found this to be scary: http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2009/11/27/world-markets-fall.html Dubai, the country where everyone is rich, is about to default on $60 billion US. Strangely, announcing that they're about to default, means they owe less as that devalued the US dollar. But, the price of oil also dropped, so they most likely are less able to pay. The Yen gained strength over the dollar which is not what they want because it hurts their exporting ability. My brain hurts! Thank goodness I don't have money to invest. :) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > From: rdavies1 at cox.net > > You're probably right. I did say it was illegal :-( > > Ron > > PS not only do have no money, we are about to default. > > _____ > > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt [mailto:cnaarndt at gmail.com] > > Ron, > > Maybe the local California cops but NOT the CHP (California Highway Patrol.) > In case those of us who live in California have forgotten, the state has no > money. Tickets for license modification are a money generator for the state > and the CHP is just looking for any infraction. I for one would not give > them the opportunity. > > Twenty years ago Gordon Brockman and I were towing the 100M that I found in > Orange County back to his shop in San Diego. The car had sat for 20 years > in storage and hadn't been registered. We were using a tow dolly and since > the rear wheel were on a public highway the CHP officer who pulled us over > gave Gordon a ticket for which he then owed back registration, licensing, > ticket fee and fines to the tune of $1,600.00! That's back when CA had > money, we're broke now. > > Cheers, > > Curt From frogeye at porterscustom.com Fri Nov 27 06:58:08 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:58:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] aluminum paint In-Reply-To: <30681F7E-0CD0-452E-ABFE-05B8284F7BFF@comcast.net> References: <30681F7E-0CD0-452E-ABFE-05B8284F7BFF@comcast.net> Message-ID: Best way is to polish it. frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jess Power Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:51 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] aluminum paint What is the best product for painting aluminum to make it look like chrome? Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From amalin at mac.com Fri Nov 27 08:14:22 2009 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:14:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california In-Reply-To: References: <751d05480911261150s521b2825g5df33edff3d7f690@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You want to see scary? Check out the money supply in this chart from the St. Louis Branch of the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank. I hope we run out of ink and paper soon. Al Malin Tricarb On Nov 27, 2009, at 8:51 AM, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > Hopefully, you'll excuse me for this ... > > > > Said in my best Groucho voice: > > So, if California defaults, does that mean there's less danger of it > falling > into the ocean? :) > > > On a related note, I found this to be scary: > > http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2009/11/27/world-markets-fall.html > > > > Dubai, the country where everyone is rich, is about to default on > $60 billion > US. Strangely, announcing that they're about to default, means they > owe less > as that devalued the US dollar. But, the price of oil also dropped, > so they > most likely are less able to pay. The Yen gained strength over the > dollar > which is not what they want because it hurts their exporting > ability. My > brain hurts! Thank goodness I don't have money to invest. :) > > > > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) From amalin at mac.com Fri Nov 27 08:18:02 2009 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:18:02 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california In-Reply-To: References: <751d05480911261150s521b2825g5df33edff3d7f690@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry, forgot to include the link: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BASE Al You want to see scary? Check out the money supply in this chart from the St. Louis Branch of the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank. I hope we run out of ink and paper soon. Al Malin Tricarb On Nov 27, 2009, at 8:51 AM, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > Hopefully, you'll excuse me for this ... > > > > Said in my best Groucho voice: > > So, if California defaults, does that mean there's less danger of it > falling > into the ocean? :) > > > On a related note, I found this to be scary: > > http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2009/11/27/world-markets-fall.html > > > > Dubai, the country where everyone is rich, is about to default on > $60 billion > US. Strangely, announcing that they're about to default, means they > owe less > as that devalued the US dollar. But, the price of oil also dropped, > so they > most likely are less able to pay. The Yen gained strength over the > dollar > which is not what they want because it hurts their exporting > ability. My > brain hurts! Thank goodness I don't have money to invest. :) > > > > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > You want to see scary? Check out the money supply in this chart from the St. Louis Branch of the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank. I hope we run out of ink and paper soon. Al Malin Tricarb On Nov 27, 2009, at 8:51 AM, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > Hopefully, you'll excuse me for this ... > > > > Said in my best Groucho voice: > > So, if California defaults, does that mean there's less danger of it > falling > into the ocean? :) > > > On a related note, I found this to be scary: > > http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2009/11/27/world-markets-fall.html > > > > Dubai, the country where everyone is rich, is about to default on > $60 billion > US. Strangely, announcing that they're about to default, means they > owe less > as that devalued the US dollar. But, the price of oil also dropped, > so they > most likely are less able to pay. The Yen gained strength over the > dollar > which is not what they want because it hurts their exporting > ability. My > brain hurts! Thank goodness I don't have money to invest. :) > > > > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Fri Nov 27 09:28:17 2009 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:28:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: YOM plates for california In-Reply-To: References: <751d05480911261150s521b2825g5df33edff3d7f690@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Somehow, this graph from the same source looks like someone told a lie... http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?chart_type=line&s[1][id]=BASENS&s[1][transformation]=cch But we are getting OT here. Bob Johnson BJ8 From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Fri Nov 27 09:47:57 2009 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:47:57 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] aluminum paint References: Message-ID: <000701ca6f81$5fdace80$0300a8c0@cardinalhealth.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] aluminum paint > Eastwood has a couple of products you may want to check out. I have used > them and the results are decent BUT there is NO substitute for actual > Chrome. > > Cheers, > > Gary Fuqua > Classic Sports Cars > Branson, MO > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From loftusdesign at cox.net Fri Nov 27 14:07:09 2009 From: loftusdesign at cox.net (John Loftus) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:07:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] aluminum paint Message-ID: <4B103F7D.1070605@cox.net> Alsa has Mirra Chrome which is the best spray chrome I have seen and they have it in a spray can version now. http://www.alsacorp.com/products/mirrachrome/mirrachrome.htm The home page has some videos showing the application. http://www.alsacorp.com/ They also have a Ghost Chrome which has a less reflective aluminum finish if you are looking for that. From healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 27 14:28:33 2009 From: healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com (Carlos Cruz) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:28:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Old Dogs Message-ID: <757245.49821.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Happy Turkey Day & Black Friday All, Anyone catch the movie Old Dogs with John Trivolta and Robin Williams yet? If you haven't - make plans, it's funny. There's a glimpse of a Healey in the background during a scene. Does it belong to anyone on the list? Cheers, Carlos Cruz From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 27 15:41:44 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:41:44 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] the wrong side of the road Message-ID: Left - right - wrong? http://autos.sympatico.ca/photos-videos/1962/fun-facts-about-driving-on-the-r ight-errrr-wrong-side-of-the-road So there you have it!!! From s.hutchings at rogers.com Fri Nov 27 16:12:56 2009 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:12:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] threaded fulcrum Message-ID: Although the quality of my kingpin set seems very good, there was a nasty bit of swarf in the hole machined for the cotter pin in each pin. I've carefully cleaned this out, but there still seems to be a bit of a burr at the edge of the hole where the swarf was hinged, and the flat part of the threaded fulcrum sits. I know it's a tight fit, but how much force should I expect to use to push the fulcrum in? I'm still cleaning up the edge of that hole with a small file...awkward! Thanks, Stephen, BJ8 From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Fri Nov 27 16:16:56 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:16:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E749@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Moss offers new BJ8 calipers. Anybody have anything bad to say about them? I see this morning that I have a leaker. Thanks, Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From s.hutchings at rogers.com Fri Nov 27 16:21:54 2009 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:21:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys] the wrong side of the road Message-ID: I wonder if it really is as much as 70% that drive on the right.....you have to take in India, much of Asia, and much of Africa, where the numbers of cars have increased in recent years.Then there are the small countires with big populations like Japan, and all the obvious places like Australia, New Zealand, etc. It will probably be China that tips the scales towards the right-favouring side. Stephen From sales at justbrits.com Fri Nov 27 16:30:40 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:30:40 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: [Spridgets] The wrong side of the road] Message-ID: <4B106120.5010404@justbrits.com> From the Spridgets List !!! 'Nufff said !!!!!! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Spridgets] The wrong side of the road Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:41:06 +0000 From: To: Spridgets References: Left - right - wrong? http://autos.sympatico.ca/photos-videos/1962/fun-facts-about-driving-on-the-r ight-errrr-wrong-side-of-the-road So there you have it!!! _______________________________________________ Also, be SURE to check out the "Prancing Horse' pics below the last pic !! Ed From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 27 18:16:38 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:16:38 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys] the wrong side of the road In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: China favours 'rights'? :) Okay, so that's not what you meant! :) Robert > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:21:54 -0500 > From: s.hutchings at rogers.com > > I wonder if it really is as much as 70% that drive on the > right.....you have to take in India, much of Asia, and much of > Africa, where the numbers of cars have increased in recent years.Then > there are the small countires with big populations like Japan, and > all the obvious places like Australia, New Zealand, etc. It will > probably be China that tips the scales towards the right-favouring > side. > > Stephen From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Nov 27 20:31:10 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:31:10 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys] the wrong side of the road In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Stephen - You are confused. China in the 1920s and 1930s, when it was the Republic of China, held the USA as its model nation and adopted many of its current standards including Left Hand Drive and two blade pronged electrical plugs. Communist China is still Left Hand Drive. It is Hong Kong that is Right Hand Drive, but that is a former British colony, therefore only six million Chinese use RHD. Even in Taiwan (still the ROC) uses RHD as standard. Korea is another Asian country which adopted LHD out of respect to the US. The real problem in China is no one in that country, except officials, had cars until about 5 years ago. Now you have about 100 million new drivers, most licensed in the last few years. Now we all know the jokes about Chinese drivers in the USA (I'm half Chinese, so I can laugh at myself half the time), so take that and multiply by 100 million people who just got their license, and imagine trying to navigate the streets of China. Something to be very afraid of, trust me! No wonder Buick is such a popular brand there, you'd be mad to drive a subcompact on Chinese roads. Cheers, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Stephen Hutchings wrote: > I wonder if it really is as much as 70% that drive on the right.....you > have to take in India, much of Asia, and much of Africa, where the numbers > of cars have increased in recent years.Then there are the small countires > with big populations like Japan, and all the obvious places like Australia, > New Zealand, etc. It will probably be China that tips the scales towards the > right-favouring side. > > Stephen From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Sat Nov 28 01:25:38 2009 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:25:38 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers In-Reply-To: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E749@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E749@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: <4e23c7250911280025i58be1aa9vf5a054c83ba77890@mail.gmail.com> Ken, there are only two places where brake fluid can leak out of a caliper: either the piston seals or the O-ring between both halves. For both cases one can get replacement parts, much much cheaper than new calipers. Or do you print your own Dollar bills? regards, Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/28 Freese, Ken > Moss offers new BJ8 calipers. Anybody have anything bad to say about them? > I see this morning that I have a leaker. > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sat Nov 28 04:02:33 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:02:33 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers In-Reply-To: <4e23c7250911280025i58be1aa9vf5a054c83ba77890@mail.gmail.com> References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E749@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> <4e23c7250911280025i58be1aa9vf5a054c83ba77890@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000c01ca701a$49c5f090$dd51d1b0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Ken, Jack is right, of course. The only reason I'm butting in - apart from habit - is that there used to be a fair weight of opinion against splitting callipers. Supposedly they would "never go back together" properly or perhaps the trade wanted to a) sell more new ones &/or b) be the only ones "rebuilding" them. In most cases the rebuild seems to be:- splitting them, stripping out the parts (the rubber), putting in new seals, reassembly, paint/lacquer. Or is the reassembly after the paint? No matter. Anyhow, I've done it. Anyone can do it unless the callipers are beyond all help. I think I got the seals from Norman Nock but I really can't be sure. Do them yourself. Simon. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jaap Aeckerlin Sent: 28 November 2009 08:26 To: Freese, Ken; Healey forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers Ken, there are only two places where brake fluid can leak out of a caliper: either the piston seals or the O-ring between both halves. For both cases one can get replacement parts, much much cheaper than new calipers. Or do you print your own Dollar bills? regards, Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/28 Freese, Ken > Moss offers new BJ8 calipers. Anybody have anything bad to say about them? > I see this morning that I have a leaker. > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 28 06:22:06 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:22:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Old Dogs References: <757245.49821.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401ca702d$c8acd690$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> That Old Dog is getting slammed by the critics. (1.5 stars) Think I will wait for DVD on that one. ML ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos Cruz" To: "Healey List" Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: [Healeys] Old Dogs > Happy Turkey Day & Black Friday All, > > Anyone catch the movie Old Dogs with John Trivolta and Robin Williams yet? > If you haven't - make plans, it's funny. There's a glimpse of a Healey in > the background during a scene. Does it belong to anyone on the list? > > Cheers, > Carlos Cruz > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From ampole at hotmail.com Sat Nov 28 08:27:40 2009 From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:27:40 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys] the wrong side of the road In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Blame the french !!! they had to be different I believe Napoleon started it. They also had to be different with their yellow headlights (they could see who was a foreigner!) I believe we Brits drive on the left all stemmed from riding a horse and most people being right handed would ride on the left of the track so they could battle with their sword in their right hand. so you yanks copied the french! Andy _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Nov 28 08:51:02 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers In-Reply-To: <000c01ca701a$49c5f090$dd51d1b0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <665740872.7154511259423462781.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Wasn't there something about not reusing the through bolts? If they were installed torque-to-yield you wouldn't want to reuse them, methinks. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Ken, Jack is right, of course. The only reason I'm butting in - apart from habit - is that there used to be a fair weight of opinion against splitting callipers. Supposedly they would "never go back together" properly or perhaps the trade wanted to a) sell more new ones &/or b) be the only ones "rebuilding" them. In most cases the rebuild seems to be:- splitting them, stripping out the parts (the rubber), putting in new seals, reassembly, paint/lacquer. Or is the reassembly after the paint? No matter. Anyhow, I've done it. Anyone can do it unless the callipers are beyond all help. I think I got the seals from Norman Nock but I really can't be sure. Do them yourself. Simon. From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Sat Nov 28 10:06:17 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:06:17 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers In-Reply-To: <665740872.7154511259423462781.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <665740872.7154511259423462781.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B115889.7010109@comcast.net> << Wasn't there something about not reusing the through bolts? If they were installed torque-to-yield you wouldn't want to reuse them, methinks. >> Bingo, Bob. You win the Kewpie doll !!! I have/had [da*ned if I can find it ] from Lucas/Girling - don't remember which - explaining just that. Basically, it was "only split if you have new bolts at hand." !! Maybe Norman/David still have ?!? Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Sat Nov 28 10:35:58 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:35:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E749@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> <4e23c7250911280025i58be1aa9vf5a054c83ba77890@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E74D@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Jack, I want to get the car back on the road quickly and as I calculate the difference in price will be about $100. Not hardly worth my time to clean and paint the old calipers, let alone the piston/boot agravation. Been there, done that (20 years ago!). Ken ________________________________ From: Jaap Aeckerlin [mailto:j.aeckerlin at gmail.com] Sent: Sat 11/28/2009 12:25 AM To: Freese, Ken; Healey forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers Ken, there are only two places where brake fluid can leak out of a caliper: either the piston seals or the O-ring between both halves. For both cases one can get replacement parts, much much cheaper than new calipers. Or do you print your own Dollar bills? regards, Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/28 Freese, Ken Moss offers new BJ8 calipers. Anybody have anything bad to say about them? I see this morning that I have a leaker. Thanks, Ken Freese 65 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Sat Nov 28 10:59:54 2009 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:59:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Old Dogs In-Reply-To: <000401ca702d$c8acd690$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <757245.49821.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <000401ca702d$c8acd690$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: Usually I find that if the critics don't like it, I will and vice-versa. Bob Johnson BJ8 On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > That Old Dog is getting slammed by the critics. (1.5 stars) Think I will > wait for DVD on that one. > > ML From happolk at cox.net Sat Nov 28 11:02:17 2009 From: happolk at cox.net (Harlan Polk) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:02:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Regulator conversion In-Reply-To: References: <012F27E8BB454438B4FBD7DC5F3FC378@atc0f226cd3237><4B041A71.1020001@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B1165A9.5060702@cox.net> There is an excellent discussion about appropriate regulator voltage for various car battery types at http://landiss.com/battery.htm We often install newer battery types without considering that each car battery type works best with a different regulator voltage setting. This article may help. Hap Heal;ey wrote: > Just type into Google search 12 volt regulator diagram > > Bob 1963 BJ7 > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Alex" > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:10 PM > To: "Charlie Baldwin" > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Regulator conversion > >> Yup, I can see your point, Charlie. >> >> It's just that I'm an inveterate electroniker, and am always >> interested in >> homebrewing electronics circuits (which you can see on my Web pages). >> That's >> why I asked. In the world of ham radio and electronics a lot of >> designs are >> published and shared. >> >> == Alex in Maine >> "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 >> "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 >> Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, >> 1965 MG Midget >> http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Baldwin" >> >> To: "Alex" >> Cc: >> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Regulator conversion >> >> >>> Alex, >>> Bob Jeffers has come up with this design as a service to the British >>> car >>> collecting fraternity and to make some money from his work. Somehow it >>> seems wrong to pass around a schematic of his design so others can make >>> copies. If you want a converted regulator, send yours to him and pay >>> the $85 that he charges. >>> Charlie >> >> >> [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried >> to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please >> send plain text.] >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as bj7ah at acanac.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as happolk at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From fogbro1 at comcast.net Sat Nov 28 11:02:34 2009 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:02:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Free Healey 100-6 Wheel Adapters References: <490865.97272.qm@web86404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: List, My 100-6, which was a factory wire wheeled car, came to me with adapters to fit 4.5", 5 lug steel wheels. I have since converted back to wire wheels. Consequently I have no use for the adapters. They're free to anyone that wants them. Just pay $12 postage. Otherwise they're headed for the recyle bin 10 days hence. Ed Woods From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 28 11:36:41 2009 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:36:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Keep left Message-ID: <553233.19430.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The first recorded history of KEEP LEFT was horse and wagons crossing the bridge over the Thames River in London when all there was was horse and wagons , this was causing major problems on the bridge with some wagons on the left side of the bridge and some on the right side , the local police started to guide the horse and wagons on one side which happened to be the left , all it took was time for it to be KEEP LEFT on all roads on London roads .. From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Sat Nov 28 11:37:13 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:37:13 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 caliper conversion References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E749@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local><4e23c7250911280025i58be1aa9vf5a054c83ba77890@mail.gmail.com> <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E74D@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E74E@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Something else that might interest some is converting to Toyota 4 piston calipers. Those are less than $40 each and the swept area is greater. I don't know the exact speed that the converter tested at, but the distance was reduced by 20 feet. http://www.vtr.org/maintain/brake-conversion.shtml Ken Freese ________________________________ From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net on behalf of Freese, Ken Sent: Sat 11/28/2009 9:35 AM To: Jaap Aeckerlin; Healey forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers Jack, I want to get the car back on the road quickly and as I calculate the difference in price will be about $100. Not hardly worth my time to clean and paint the old calipers, let alone the piston/boot agravation. Been there, done that (20 years ago!). Ken ________________________________ From: Jaap Aeckerlin [mailto:j.aeckerlin at gmail.com] Sent: Sat 11/28/2009 12:25 AM To: Freese, Ken; Healey forum Subject: Re: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers Ken, there are only two places where brake fluid can leak out of a caliper: either the piston seals or the O-ring between both halves. For both cases one can get replacement parts, much much cheaper than new calipers. Or do you print your own Dollar bills? regards, Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/28 Freese, Ken Moss offers new BJ8 calipers. Anybody have anything bad to say about them? I see this morning that I have a leaker. Thanks, Ken Freese 65 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as kendall.freese at aerojet.com http://www.team.net/archive From martin_93555 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 28 11:56:02 2009 From: martin_93555 at yahoo.com (Martin's) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:56:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] BJ-8 Trunk Latch Message-ID: <737925.67172.qm@web84002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks to all who responded to my problem with the broken trunk latch. We were able to get the pins out of the hinges from the outside & remove the lid. A bolt had fallen out so all we had to do was replace it & it works great now. Kathy From tjmorrio at colby.edu Sat Nov 28 11:57:31 2009 From: tjmorrio at colby.edu (Thomas Morrione) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:57:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers In-Reply-To: <4B115889.7010109@comcast.net> Message-ID: Please excuse a neophyte lister dropping in on this question, but FWIW: I face a similar problem re rebuilding or new calipers. One of my old "references" a Drake Publishers "Workshop and Repair Manual" (1972) says - - in BOLD on p.99, when talking about renewing pistons, pads and seals: "NOTE.-- No attempt should be made to remove the bridge bolts joining the two halves of the caliper." (That's caliper with one "L") My Cowley/Oxford/England Workshop Manual (Issue 3: 37058) for BN4 and BN 6 and 3000 MK I and II and BJ7 says in Section MM3 titled "Dismantling a Calliper Unit" (that's caliper with 2 "L's"): quote: "NOTE: No attempt should be made to remove the bridge bolts joining the two halves of the calliper." So, not wanting to attempt what I'm told not to do (for once in my life) I asked "my machinist" friend and he said - of course he could do this rebuild, but wouldn't because of the potential liability involved. My "answer"? I just sent my calipers (one "L"), along with my worn king pins and tired trunnions (2 "Ns") to David Nock to fix. Tom 65BJB in process On 11/28/09 12:06 PM, "63ahbj7" <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> wrote: > << Wasn't there something about not reusing the through bolts? > If they were installed torque-to-yield you wouldn't want to > reuse them, methinks. >> > > Bingo, Bob. You win the Kewpie doll !!! > > I have/had [da*ned if I can find it ] from Lucas/Girling > - don't remember > which - explaining just that. Basically, it was "only > split if you have new bolts > at hand." !! > > Maybe Norman/David still have ?!? > > Ed > Please visit MY site at: > www.justbrits.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tjmorrio at colby.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Nov 28 12:10:18 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:10:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <553233.19430.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Norman, I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we do it when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British "Walk left"? --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Norman Nock wrote: From: Norman Nock Subject: [Healeys] Keep left To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 1:36 PM The first recorded history of KEEP LEFT was horse and wagons crossing the bridge over the Thames River in London when all there was was horse and wagons , this was causing major problems on the bridge with some wagons on the left side of the bridge and some on the right side , the local police started to guide the horse and wagons on one side which happened to be the left , all it took was time for it to be KEEP LEFT on all roads on London roads .. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sat Nov 28 12:40:40 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:40:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <553233.19430.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't know, an awful lot of American's are drifting left these days.... ;>) dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:10 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net; sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left Norman, I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we do it when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British "Walk left"? --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Norman Nock wrote: From: Norman Nock Subject: [Healeys] Keep left To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 1:36 PM The first recorded history of KEEP LEFT was horse and wagons crossing the bridge over the Thames River in London when all there was was horse and wagons , this was causing major problems on the bridge with some wagons on the left side of the bridge and some on the right side , the local police started to guide the horse and wagons on one side which happened to be the left , all it took was time for it to be KEEP LEFT on all roads on London roads .. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 28 13:04:07 2009 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:04:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <628855.24697.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I left England in `1954 , we need an answer from a member in the UK Norman Nock --- On Sat, 11/28/09, HealeyRick wrote: From: HealeyRick Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left To: healeys at autox.team.net, sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 11:10 AM Norman, I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we do it when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British "Walk left"? --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Norman Nock wrote: From: Norman Nock Subject: [Healeys] Keep left To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 1:36 PM The first recorded history of KEEP LEFT was horse and wagons crossing the bridge over the Thames River in London when all there was was horse and wagons , this was causing major problems on the bridge with some wagons on the left side of the bridge and some on the right side , the local police started to guide the horse and wagons on one side which happened to be the left , all it took was time for it to be KEEP LEFT on all roads on London roads .. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From f9cougar at yahoo.com Sat Nov 28 13:06:43 2009 From: f9cougar at yahoo.com (john close) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:06:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Continued BN6 Electrical Struggles Message-ID: <80189.8471.qm@web112015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hello Listers - it's me, back to pester you with my brake light issues. A little review: had working rear solenoid/3rd brake light hookup. Healey returned from body shop with solenoid removed and rear lights dysfunctional. Some of the labels with which I had identifed connections are gone. I'm trying to put it right. Have brought rear solenoid back into the fray. Here's what's happening now; 1. All 3 brake lights work in all 3 positions of the lighting switch. 2. With lights off. instrument lights and front side lights illuminate when the brake lights do. 3. With lighting switch 1/2 way out, front sidelights illuminate but rears do not. Please help. Dyin' over here. - Thanks - JRC From Editorgary at aol.com Sat Nov 28 13:07:37 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:07:37 EST Subject: [Healeys] Right Hand, Left Hand Message-ID: In a message dated 11/28/09 9:26:40 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > I believe we Brits drive on the left all stemmed from riding a horse and > most > people being right handed would ride on the left of the track so they > could > battle with their sword in their right hand. > The story I've heard is that transportation in the U.S. was primarily by team-pulled vehicles, where the "driver" would walk next to the team, where it made more sense to have the team on the right side of the road, with the driver walking ahead and to the left of the team. >From this evolved the custom of sitting on the left side of the wagon when holding reins, and from that the logical practice of keeping one's vehicle on the right side of the road. Or so I've heard, gary From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Nov 28 13:08:51 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:08:51 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 caliper conversion In-Reply-To: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E74E@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E749@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local><4e23c7250911280025i58be1aa9vf5a054c83ba77890@mail.gmail.com> <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E74D@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E74E@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: <4B118353.5020301@chello.nl> It is not the swept area that matters for brake force, but the total piston area. This should be about the same or larger in the modified situation. If not the rear may brake away to soon because of rear wheel lock up before the front wheels will block. Kees Oudesluijs NL Freese, Ken schreef: > Something else that might interest some is converting to Toyota 4 piston > calipers. Those are less than $40 each and the swept area is greater. I don't > know the exact speed that the converter tested at, but the distance was > reduced by 20 feet. > http://www.vtr.org/maintain/brake-conversion.shtml > > Ken Freese > > ________________________________ > > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net on behalf of Freese, Ken > Sent: Sat 11/28/2009 9:35 AM > To: Jaap Aeckerlin; Healey forum > Subject: Re: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers > > > > Jack, > I want to get the car back on the road quickly and as I calculate the > difference in price will be about $100. Not hardly worth my time to clean and > paint the old calipers, let alone the piston/boot agravation. Been there, > done > that (20 years ago!). > Ken > > ________________________________ > > From: Jaap Aeckerlin [mailto:j.aeckerlin at gmail.com] > Sent: Sat 11/28/2009 12:25 AM > To: Freese, Ken; Healey forum > Subject: Re: [Healeys] new BJ8 calipers > > > Ken, there are only two places where brake fluid can leak out of a caliper: > either the piston seals or the O-ring between both halves. For both cases > one > can get replacement parts, much much cheaper than new calipers. Or do you > print your own Dollar bills? > regards, > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > 1964 BJ8 29432 > > > 2009/11/28 Freese, Ken > > > Moss offers new BJ8 calipers. Anybody have anything bad to say about > them? > I see this morning that I have a leaker. > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as kendall.freese at aerojet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Sat Nov 28 13:48:59 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:48:59 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Right Hand, Left Hand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4ADF6@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> For me its no issue to drive on the left or on the right, as long as all do it the same!! I am so often in my second home UK, that I am not even thinking about it. I am just used to drive on the right or on the left. One of my cars is right hand drive the others left hand drive. Its only to think first and to find the drivers door (left or right) when filled up with petrol at a filling station. The only time I really need to switch on my brain is when crossing a road as a pedestrian. I was several times very close to be knocked over by an approaching car. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Nov 28 14:14:47 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:14:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: References: <553233.19430.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19280CF6-21DE-4805-A963-2EA0A3325910@gmail.com> Thats to correct the hard right over steering and drift into the weeds I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Nov 28, 2009, at 11:40 AM, "Dave Porter" wrote: > I don't know, an awful lot of American's are drifting left these > days.... > ;>) > dave > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 > Porter Custom Bicycles > > cars: > www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html > gallery: > http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff > > blog: http://porterbikes.com/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of HealeyRick > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:10 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net; sjnnock at sbcglobal.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left > > Norman, > > I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, > we do it > when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British > "Walk > left"? > > --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Norman Nock wrote: > > From: Norman Nock > Subject: [Healeys] Keep left > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 1:36 PM > > The first recorded history of KEEP LEFT was horse and > wagons > crossing the bridge over the Thames River in London when all there > was was > horse and wagons , this was causing major problems on the bridge > with some > wagons on the left side of the bridge and some on the right side , > the local > police started to guide the horse and wagons on one side which > happened to > be > the left , all it took was time for it to be KEEP LEFT on all roads on > London > roads .. > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Nov 28 14:18:38 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:18:38 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Early BT7 rotors Message-ID: <9B39B384-E41F-4287-99F5-DACDF86F02D8@gmail.com> Need 2 early rotors for my bt7. Prefer new. But used turnable units are fine. Mine are under spec and scored I Erbs Sent from my iPod From Awgertoo at aol.com Sat Nov 28 14:50:32 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:50:32 EST Subject: [Healeys] Keep left Message-ID: In a message dated 11/28/2009 3:10:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frogeye at porterscustom.com writes: don't know, an awful lot of American's are drifting left these days.... I "wear left" if that is of any importance. Best--Michael Oritt From PhilRitten at aol.com Sat Nov 28 15:20:18 2009 From: PhilRitten at aol.com (PhilRitten at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:20:18 EST Subject: [Healeys] Fan Belt Issue Message-ID: I'm trying to put a fan belt on the BT7 that I'm restoring and there doesn't appear to be enough clearance between the cross member and the bolt on the end of the crank. I'm guessing that I should jack the engine up a little bit to create enough clearance but don't want to damage anything. Any recommendations? Thanks, Phil From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Nov 28 15:25:49 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:25:49 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: References: <553233.19430.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B11A36D.6040206@chello.nl> Oh well, Obama is still very to the right. Kees Oudesluijs NL Dave Porter schreef: > I don't know, an awful lot of American's are drifting left these days.... > ;>) > dave From grday at btinternet.com Sat Nov 28 16:22:03 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:22:03 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left References: <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Too many bl**dy foreigners to do this! LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "HealeyRick" To: ; Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left > Norman, > > I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we do > it > when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British "Walk > left"? > > --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Norman Nock wrote: > > From: Norman Nock > Subject: [Healeys] Keep left > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 1:36 PM > > The first recorded history of KEEP LEFT was horse and wagons > crossing the bridge over the Thames River in London when all there was was > horse and wagons , this was causing major problems on the bridge with some > wagons on the left side of the bridge and some on the right side , the > local > police started to guide the horse and wagons on one side which happened to > be > the left , all it took was time for it to be KEEP LEFT on all roads on > London > roads .. > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From grday at btinternet.com Sat Nov 28 16:39:43 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:39:43 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 caliper conversion References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E749@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local><4e23c7250911280025i58be1aa9vf5a054c83ba77890@mail.gmail.com><0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E74D@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local><0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0223E74E@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> <4B118353.5020301@chello.nl> Message-ID: <24D1991821F647C09B1A656F8010EBE8@user8634b3d69b> Providing you can lock the wheels (without putting your back out!) when you press the brake pedal it doesn't matter whose or what type of brakes you have (unless you need additional cooling for race purposes or driving down ski slopes). You have sufficient. What matters is the grip between the tyres and the road surface (the co-efficient of friction) and it is this interface where your braking distances alter. Given the same weight transfer any distance reduction has nothing whatsoever to do with the brake type. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" To: "Freese, Ken" Cc: "Healey forum" Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 caliper conversion > It is not the swept area that matters for brake force, but the total > piston area. This should be about the same or larger in the modified > situation. If not the rear may brake away to soon because of rear wheel > lock up before the front wheels will block. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Freese, Ken schreef: >> Something else that might interest some is converting to Toyota 4 piston >> calipers. Those are less than $40 each and the swept area is greater. I >> don't >> know the exact speed that the converter tested at, but the distance was >> reduced by 20 feet. >> http://www.vtr.org/maintain/brake-conversion.shtml >> >> Ken Freese From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Nov 28 16:46:51 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:46:51 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091128174651.718TM.1089088.root@ispmxfep13-z02> Hey---cut out all this left stuff---I'm left handed, and suffer all the injustices every left handed person must suffer---nothing is built for left handers!!!:):) ---- Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: ============= In a message dated 11/28/2009 3:10:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frogeye at porterscustom.com writes: don't know, an awful lot of American's are drifting left these days.... I "wear left" if that is of any importance. Best--Michael Oritt Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Nov 28 16:47:49 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:47:49 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <4B11A36D.6040206@chello.nl> Message-ID: <20091128174749.D4RQA.1089103.root@ispmxfep13-z02> Hummmmmmmmmmmmm----I didn't know that. ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= Oh well, Obama is still very to the right. Kees Oudesluijs NL Dave Porter schreef: > I don't know, an awful lot of American's are drifting left these days.... > ;>) > dave Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Nov 28 16:50:15 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:50:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091128175015.SWGUF.1089141.root@ispmxfep13-z02> I was in Australia recently and they do walk left------I had to break the right walking habit to keep from getting walked over. Cheers Tom ---- Guy R Day wrote: ============= Too many bl**dy foreigners to do this! LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "HealeyRick" To: ; Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left > Norman, > > I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we do > it > when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British "Walk > left"? > > --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Norman Nock wrote: > > From: Norman Nock > Subject: [Healeys] Keep left > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 1:36 PM > > The first recorded history of KEEP LEFT was horse and wagons > crossing the bridge over the Thames River in London when all there was was > horse and wagons , this was causing major problems on the bridge with some > wagons on the left side of the bridge and some on the right side , the > local > police started to guide the horse and wagons on one side which happened to > be > the left , all it took was time for it to be KEEP LEFT on all roads on > London > roads .. > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sat Nov 28 17:01:39 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:01:39 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Right Hand, Left Hand In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4ADF6@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4ADF6@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: <001601ca7087$20649900$612dcb00$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> When I was in the army, our main anticipated war time deployment was to the north-east section of what was then "West" Germany. In the event of a Russian attack we would lurk behind their lines and do this and that. About half of our vehicles were kept in hangers in Germany against the day when the horrid hordes swept forward. These were LH drive. Our normal peacetime complement were kept in the UK. These were RH drive. As to vehicle types and function, the LHS & RHS units were interchangeable. Hence, on exercise with BAOR, one might use a LH vehicle all morning and a RH one all afternoon. Should one have had a "good lunch", this could be quite a confusing procedure. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Sent: 28 November 2009 20:49 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Right Hand, Left Hand For me its no issue to drive on the left or on the right, as long as all do it the same!! I am so often in my second home UK, that I am not even thinking about it. I am just used to drive on the right or on the left. One of my cars is right hand drive the others left hand drive. Its only to think first and to find the drivers door (left or right) when filled up with petrol at a filling station. The only time I really need to switch on my brain is when crossing a road as a pedestrian. I was several times very close to be knocked over by an approaching car. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Nov 28 17:42:51 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:42:51 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Right Hand, Left Hand In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4ADF6@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4ADF6@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: I flip back and forth quite a bit too, although I do say I am more accustomed to RHD now... I note sometimes when I pull into a gas station or someplace in the US without a dividing line I'm usually on the wrong side of the road... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 4:48 AM, wrote: > For me its no issue to drive on the left or on the right, as long as all > do it the same!! > I am so often in my second home UK, that I am not even thinking about > it. I am just used to drive on the right or on the left. > One of my cars is right hand drive the others left hand drive. Its only > to think first and to find the drivers door (left or right) when filled > up with petrol at a filling station. > The only time I really need to switch on my brain is when crossing a > road as a pedestrian. I was several times very close to be knocked over > by an approaching car. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Nov 28 17:48:27 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:48:27 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <553233.19430.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I am in London from time to time. Generally yes they walk left as well, but London is quite international so people are sort of all over the place... but the Tube is made for walking left, so that should let you know the expected convention. Hong Kong walking is all over the place (also very international), but they have a great set up for pedestrians where when you come to a crosswalk, there's big white letters & an arrow painted on the road to tell you whether to look left or right. Not a bad idea... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:10 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > Norman, > > I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we do > it > when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British "Walk > left"? From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Sat Nov 28 17:51:17 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:51:17 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <20091128174651.718TM.1089088.root@ispmxfep13-z02> References: <20091128174651.718TM.1089088.root@ispmxfep13-z02> Message-ID: <4B11C585.4040305@comcast.net> << ....nothing is built for left handers!!! >> Tom, I've got a "Left Handed Monkey Wrench" I'll let you have CHEAP 'cause I'm right handed so I CAN'T use it !!! $25 + actual shipping !!! That IS a steal !!!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From fogbro1 at comcast.net Sat Nov 28 18:48:03 2009 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:48:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Steel wheel adapters References: <20091128174651.718TM.1089088.root@ispmxfep13-z02> <4B11C585.4040305@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1FD10D38746A4FC09B1E4D14B0B7500B@Edscomputer> They've been spoken for. From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Nov 28 19:37:32 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:37:32 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?o/d_problem=28again=29?= Message-ID: <20091129023732.32607.qmail@server278.com> been driving a friends bj8 and have noticed that when first engaging o/d when oil in o/d is still cold, the o/d will hesitate, then engage pretty hard. if accelerating, the rpm will increase before engagement. when oil is warm, not noticeable and engagement is smooth if not accellerating(oil hot or cold). i know it has to come out and go on the workbench for a look-see. am i looking at a rebuild, or is this somethiing that has happened to a lister and they found an easy fix. i have driven his car before and never noticed it, but this is the first time i have driven it on cool mornings, and he seldom uses the o/d. hjim From insptwo at msn.com Sat Nov 28 20:42:41 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:42:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <20091128174651.718TM.1089088.root@ispmxfep13-z02> References: , <20091128174651.718TM.1089088.root@ispmxfep13-z02> Message-ID: That's why all us lefties have to stick togather. My wife bought me a shirt that reads "all are born left handed, you turn right handed after your first sin!" Bill BJ7 > Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:46:51 -0600 > From: tomfelts at windstream.net > To: healeyrick at yahoo.com; frogeye at porterscustom.com; Awgertoo at aol.com; sjnnock at sbcglobal.net; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left > > Hey---cut out all this left stuff---I'm left handed, and suffer all the injustices every left handed person must suffer---nothing is built for left handers!!!:):) > > > ---- Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > > ============= > In a message dated 11/28/2009 3:10:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > frogeye at porterscustom.com writes: > > don't know, an awful lot of American's are drifting left these days.... > > > > I "wear left" if that is of any importance. From schauss at worldnet.att.net Sat Nov 28 21:20:20 2009 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:20:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091129042041.98B6618764F@autox.team.net> Interestingly, in Lisbon, the subways and trains all run on the left-hand track even though the Portuguese cars drive on the right. The must have hired a British company to design their subways. Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:48 PM > To: HealeyRick > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left > > I am in London from time to time. Generally yes they walk left as well, > but > London is quite international so people are sort of all over the place... > but the Tube is made for walking left, so that should let you know the > expected convention. > > Hong Kong walking is all over the place (also very international), but > they > have a great set up for pedestrians where when you come to a crosswalk, > there's big white letters & an arrow painted on the road to tell you > whether > to look left or right. Not a bad idea... > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:10 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > > > Norman, > > > > I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we > do > > it > > when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British > "Walk > > left"? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From g.rude at worldnet.att.net Sat Nov 28 21:22:06 2009 From: g.rude at worldnet.att.net (Gerald Rude) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:22:06 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Inner fender to fender spacing Message-ID: <001f01ca70ab$831720d0$b1d2480c@DJN9Q661> Hi all, I'm fitting the fenders to the car, and the left inner fender well seems to have too much space between the lip to the fender. The fender stands at about 1 inch. I compared dimensions to the other side, and the fender well is short by 1 inch. This is the side that had the big shunt, and the frame had to be replaced from the firewall forward on this side. Anyway, the old inner fender well was used, but I've tried to pull it outward, and have managed about 1/2 inch but I still have a 1 inch gap. If I pull if further out, I will have to reposition the upper shroud bracket on the fender well. So my options right now are to continue pulling, and reposition the shroud support and possibly the inner shroud support which attaches to the inner fender well or cut and splice in a section of sheet metal. Is it necessary to have a small gap, say 1/4 inch or so? That is what the right side has, which was never in an accident.....Or can I get by with the 1 inch gap....?? any help much appreciated. Jerry Rude BJ8 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Rude To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:20 AM Subject: Desperately seeking shroud Hello all, I still am seeking (desperately) a front shroud for a BJ7/early BJ8. Would any of you kind souls have one hanging in their garage which may be repairable?? Or know of anyone who may? Thank you so much, Jerry Rude Prather California..... From g.rude at worldnet.att.net Sat Nov 28 21:27:08 2009 From: g.rude at worldnet.att.net (Gerald Rude) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:27:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Left Front Fender Needed Message-ID: <002f01ca70ac$3764f710$b1d2480c@DJN9Q661> Hello all, Any one have a left front fender for sale? the only portion that needs to be good is from the center of the fender well forward. Please contact me off line. Thanks, Jerry Rude Prather California g.rude at att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Rude To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Inner fender to fender spacing Hi all, I'm fitting the fenders to the car, and the left inner fender well seems to have too much space between the lip to the fender. The fender stands at about 1 inch. I compared dimensions to the other side, and the fender well is short by 1 inch. This is the side that had the big shunt, and the frame had to be replaced from the firewall forward on this side. Anyway, the old inner fender well was used, but I've tried to pull it outward, and have managed about 1/2 inch but I still have a 1 inch gap. If I pull if further out, I will have to reposition the upper shroud bracket on the fender well. So my options right now are to continue pulling, and reposition the shroud support and possibly the inner shroud support which attaches to the inner fender well or cut and splice in a section of sheet metal. Is it necessary to have a small gap, say 1/4 inch or so? That is what the right side has, which was never in an accident.....Or can I get by with the 1 inch gap....?? any help much appreciated. Jerry Rude BJ8 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Rude To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:20 AM Subject: Desperately seeking shroud Hello all, I still am seeking (desperately) a front shroud for a BJ7/early BJ8. Would any of you kind souls have one hanging in their garage which may be repairable?? Or know of anyone who may? Thank you so much, Jerry Rude Prather California..... From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 28 21:27:54 2009 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:27:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <927485.10440.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The info. is at your finger tips do a search.go to LONDON BRIDGE KEEP LEFT .. keep left on the bridge started in 1793 ... Norman Nock --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Guy R Day wrote: From: Guy R Day Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left To: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 4:15 PM Norman, Can you reference any source for your information? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Nock" To: Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:36 PM Subject: [Healeys] Keep left > The first recorded history of KEEP LEFT was horse and wagons > crossing the bridge over the Thames River in London when all there was was > horse and wagons , this was causing major problems on the bridge with some > wagons on the left side of the bridge and some on the right side , the local > police started to guide the horse and wagons on one side which happened to be > the left , all it took was time for it to be KEEP LEFT on all roads on London > roads .. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From g.rude at worldnet.att.net Sat Nov 28 21:28:14 2009 From: g.rude at worldnet.att.net (Gerald Rude) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:28:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Left Front Fender Needed Message-ID: <003b01ca70ac$5f5dd070$b1d2480c@DJN9Q661> Oops, sorry, I forgot to mention its for a BJ8.....thx, jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Rude To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Left Front Fender Needed Hello all, Any one have a left front fender for sale? the only portion that needs to be good is from the center of the fender well forward. Please contact me off line. Thanks, Jerry Rude Prather California g.rude at att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Rude To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Inner fender to fender spacing Hi all, I'm fitting the fenders to the car, and the left inner fender well seems to have too much space between the lip to the fender. The fender stands at about 1 inch. I compared dimensions to the other side, and the fender well is short by 1 inch. This is the side that had the big shunt, and the frame had to be replaced from the firewall forward on this side. Anyway, the old inner fender well was used, but I've tried to pull it outward, and have managed about 1/2 inch but I still have a 1 inch gap. If I pull if further out, I will have to reposition the upper shroud bracket on the fender well. So my options right now are to continue pulling, and reposition the shroud support and possibly the inner shroud support which attaches to the inner fender well or cut and splice in a section of sheet metal. Is it necessary to have a small gap, say 1/4 inch or so? That is what the right side has, which was never in an accident.....Or can I get by with the 1 inch gap....?? any help much appreciated. Jerry Rude BJ8 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Rude To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:20 AM Subject: Desperately seeking shroud Hello all, I still am seeking (desperately) a front shroud for a BJ7/early BJ8. Would any of you kind souls have one hanging in their garage which may be repairable?? Or know of anyone who may? Thank you so much, Jerry Rude Prather California..... From Awgertoo at aol.com Sat Nov 28 21:47:47 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:47:47 EST Subject: [Healeys] Keep Left Message-ID: Those of us who are old enough to have grown up using fountain pens will remember how difficult it was to write without leaving an ink smear. Or in the case of three-ring or spirally bound notebooks the need to constantly adjust our hand positions to avoid the rings in the notebooks. Or having our fingers jam in the openings of scissors (still the case unless you get a left-handed pair). And think about these:: 1. Left in Spanish is "Sinestra", which is also linked to the occult and evil ("Sinister"). 2. Until well after WWII Japanese children were punished physically in order to rid them of their left-handedness. 3. The punishment is amputation of the right hand for petty crimes in certain parts of the world because the left hand was reserved for "personal cleaning" whereas the right was used for eating out the communal bowl. It's no wonder some left-handed folks grow up with bad attitudes.... Best--Michael Oritt From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Nov 28 21:59:03 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:59:03 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fan Belt Issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try looking at your transmission mount to see if its torn znd the dngine shifted forward a bit I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Nov 28, 2009, at 2:20 PM, PhilRitten at aol.com wrote: > I'm trying to put a fan belt on the BT7 that I'm restoring and there > doesn't appear to be enough clearance between the cross member and > the bolt on > the end of the crank. > > I'm guessing that I should jack the engine up a little bit to create > enough > clearance but don't want to damage anything. Any recommendations? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Sun Nov 29 01:30:51 2009 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:51 EST Subject: [Healeys] Keep Left Message-ID: Hear ... hear ... from another "southpaw", there was a softball team in Sacramento, California called "Sinestra" and every player was left handed, even third base and short stop, and every one laughed, until they took championship ... so from one of the left side, or sinister as they say, and as a life long bass ackwards "lefty", I attest to the fact that only the ones with true resolve get over the right hand world we live in. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 11/28/2009 8:59:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Awgertoo at aol.com writes: Those of us who are old enough to have grown up using fountain pens will remember how difficult it was to write without leaving an ink smear. Or in the case of three-ring or spirally bound notebooks the need to constantly adjust our hand positions to avoid the rings in the notebooks. Or having our fingers jam in the openings of scissors (still the case unless you get a left-handed pair). And think about these:: 1. Left in Spanish is "Sinestra", which is also linked to the occult and evil ("Sinister"). 2. Until well after WWII Japanese children were punished physically in order to rid them of their left-handedness. 3. The punishment is amputation of the right hand for petty crimes in certain parts of the world because the left hand was reserved for "personal cleaning" whereas the right was used for eating out the communal bowl. It's no wonder some left-handed folks grow up with bad attitudes.... Best--Michael Oritt Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as atightprod at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From bcrist at club-internet.fr Sun Nov 29 01:39:34 2009 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:39:34 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <20091129042041.98B6618764F@autox.team.net> References: <20091129042041.98B6618764F@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4B123346.8070206@club-internet.fr> Trains roll on the left track all over the world. I used to have RHD cars here (France, LHD). Once I had been called at night, half awake, I stepped into my wife's car which was the first to go in the drive way and... "Bloody, they to the driving wheel!" I was seating on the passenger's seat. Bernard Peter Schauss a icrit : > Interestingly, in Lisbon, the subways and trains all run on the left-hand > track even though the Portuguese cars drive on the right. The must have > hired a British company to design their subways. > > Peter Schauss > 1963 BJ7 > 1980 MGB > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- >> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist >> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:48 PM >> To: HealeyRick >> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left >> >> I am in London from time to time. Generally yes they walk left as well, >> but >> London is quite international so people are sort of all over the place... >> but the Tube is made for walking left, so that should let you know the >> expected convention. >> >> Hong Kong walking is all over the place (also very international), but >> they >> have a great set up for pedestrians where when you come to a crosswalk, >> there's big white letters & an arrow painted on the road to tell you >> whether >> to look left or right. Not a bad idea... >> >> Alan >> >> '52 A90 >> '53 BN1 >> '59 Jag Mk IX >> '64 BJ8 >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:10 AM, HealeyRick wrote: >> >> >>> Norman, >>> >>> I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we >>> >> do >> >>> it >>> when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British >>> >> "Walk >> >>> left"? >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bcrist at club-internet.fr > > http://www.team.net/archive From bcrist at club-internet.fr Sun Nov 29 01:46:31 2009 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:46:31 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Keep Left In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B1234E7.4090908@club-internet.fr> Sinistra in italian. It comes from "sinus", the slit of the roman toga. The toga fell from the left shoulder. B Awgertoo at aol.com a icrit : > Those of us who are old enough to have grown up using fountain pens will > remember how difficult it was to write without leaving an ink smear. Or in > the case of three-ring or spirally bound notebooks the need to constantly > adjust our hand positions to avoid the rings in the notebooks. Or having > our fingers jam in the openings of scissors (still the case unless you get > a left-handed pair). > > And think about these:: > > 1. Left in Spanish is "Sinestra", which is also linked to the occult and > evil ("Sinister"). > > 2. Until well after WWII Japanese children were punished physically in > order to rid them of their left-handedness. > > 3. The punishment is amputation of the right hand for petty crimes in > certain parts of the world because the left hand was reserved for "personal > cleaning" whereas the right was used for eating out the communal bowl. > > It's no wonder some left-handed folks grow up with bad attitudes.... > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bcrist at club-internet.fr > > http://www.team.net/archive From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk Sun Nov 29 01:50:30 2009 From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:50:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Healeys] Keep left Message-ID: <838069.60060.qm@web24003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Yes we do (walk on the left) and as someone who has spent the last 14 years overseas in "drive on right" and in fact "walk on right" territory, it is still confusing, although mostly now it's on my occasional visits to the UK. Mike Brooks '56 BN2 Message: 1 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:10:18 -0800 (PST) From: HealeyRick Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left To: healeys at autox.team.net, sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Message-ID: <466827.75221.qm at web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Norman, I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we do it when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British "Walk left"? --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Norman Nock wrote: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Nov 29 03:03:42 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:03:42 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Fan Belt Issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B1246FE.5070701@chello.nl> Can't you adjust the engine support rubbers in such a way that the engine will sit back another 20mm or so? The way it is now (less than 15mm clearance I suppose) the crank bolt may touch the cross member while driving, hitting the brakes or a bump on the road. Kees Oudesluijs > I'm trying to put a fan belt on the BT7 that I'm restoring and there > doesn't appear to be enough clearance between the cross member and the bolt on > the end of the crank. > > I'm guessing that I should jack the engine up a little bit to create enough > clearance but don't want to damage anything. Any recommendations? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sun Nov 29 03:54:24 2009 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:54:24 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <628855.24697.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <628855.24697.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: G'day Yes we certainly drive and walk on the left in Australia. The right is reserved from the drop bears when they fall out of the trees. We also stay to the left on escalators, while I read the other day that in London they stand to the right on escalators. Walking on the left was something I found quite interesting while we were in the US. Frequently we would forget and not move to the right. It didn't take long before it was made clear to us that we were on the wrong side. By the way I was at the historic racing today and in one mixed race it was an interesting and surprisingly close duel between an AH 3000 Mk1 and a Cooper T51. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Norman Nock Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2009 7:04 AM To: HealeyRick Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left I left England in `1954 , we need an answer from a member in the UK Norman Nock --- On Sat, 11/28/09, HealeyRick wrote: From: HealeyRick Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left To: healeys at autox.team.net, sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 11:10 AM Norman, I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we do it when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British "Walk left"? From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sun Nov 29 04:30:58 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:30:58 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Reamers Message-ID: <001a01ca70e7$6c31cdc0$44956940$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> I have a box of old taps, dies and reamers etc. They are mostly pretty big, too big for our cars, but some may be OK. Most of the taps and dies are BSW so I doubt there is a call for big BSW threads?? Am I right? As to the reamers, there are all sizes. I recall reference to reamers in one area at least...3000s' King Pins. What size is that? (Not that mine need replacement at the moment!) Are there any other sizes that might be worth keeping? Simon From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Nov 29 06:19:02 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:19:02 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Distributor Driving Spindle Message-ID: <20091129.051912.10765.30759@mailpop07.dca.untd.com> Would anyone have a drive gear (driving spindle) for a BN2 40495A distributor available? If so, please contact me off the list. Thanks. Doug ____________________________________________________________ One Up the Competition Earn your MBA from Post University. Free textbooks for new students! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=bwCxFuTR7_TR2DpTvXgxYwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAHvRIz4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABIhWQAAAAA= From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Nov 29 06:40:55 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 7:40:55 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Keep Left In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091129074055.FA1F2.1132153.root@ispmxfep12-z01> But not you and me--right Michael?:):) ---- Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: ============= Those of us who are old enough to have grown up using fountain pens will remember how difficult it was to write without leaving an ink smear. Or in the case of three-ring or spirally bound notebooks the need to constantly adjust our hand positions to avoid the rings in the notebooks. Or having our fingers jam in the openings of scissors (still the case unless you get a left-handed pair). And think about these:: 1. Left in Spanish is "Sinestra", which is also linked to the occult and evil ("Sinister"). 2. Until well after WWII Japanese children were punished physically in order to rid them of their left-handedness. 3. The punishment is amputation of the right hand for petty crimes in certain parts of the world because the left hand was reserved for "personal cleaning" whereas the right was used for eating out the communal bowl. It's no wonder some left-handed folks grow up with bad attitudes.... Best--Michael Oritt Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Nov 29 06:51:34 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 7:51:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Keep Left In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091129075134.QEV4P.1132291.root@ispmxfep12-z01> There is a book out (old book) titled "The Left-Handed Book", by James T.deKay. In it, one of the pieces of info that I find most gratifying is this. "Dr Bryng Bryngelson, of the Univ of Minnesota, says: 'Left-handed people tend to be more creative, more imaginative than right-handed people.' Which may explain why Michaelangelo, Raphael and Leonardo were all left-handed". :):):) ---- ATIGHTPROD at aol.com wrote: ============= Hear ... hear ... from another "southpaw", there was a softball team in Sacramento, California called "Sinestra" and every player was left handed, even third base and short stop, and every one laughed, until they took championship ... so from one of the left side, or sinister as they say, and as a life long bass ackwards "lefty", I attest to the fact that only the ones with true resolve get over the right hand world we live in. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 11/28/2009 8:59:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Awgertoo at aol.com writes: Those of us who are old enough to have grown up using fountain pens will remember how difficult it was to write without leaving an ink smear. Or in the case of three-ring or spirally bound notebooks the need to constantly adjust our hand positions to avoid the rings in the notebooks. Or having our fingers jam in the openings of scissors (still the case unless you get a left-handed pair). And think about these:: 1. Left in Spanish is "Sinestra", which is also linked to the occult and evil ("Sinister"). 2. Until well after WWII Japanese children were punished physically in order to rid them of their left-handedness. 3. The punishment is amputation of the right hand for petty crimes in certain parts of the world because the left hand was reserved for "personal cleaning" whereas the right was used for eating out the communal bowl. It's no wonder some left-handed folks grow up with bad attitudes.... Best--Michael Oritt Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as atightprod at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From jstmorris at yahoo.com Sun Nov 29 11:18:25 2009 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:18:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] British Car Cottage Industry Website Message-ID: <776245.77086.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all; Some time ago, I came across a very interesting website which presents products that are not normally commercially available to the British car / race enthusiast. The website is British Car Cottage Industries at http://www.britcot.com. I have no financial interest in this venture. I just found it interesting and creative and thought I would pass on the word about it. Enjoy!!--Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, CanadaKeep Smiling; Murphy Lives __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Sun Nov 29 11:36:24 2009 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:36:24 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <4B123346.8070206@club-internet.fr> References: <20091129042041.98B6618764F@autox.team.net> <4B123346.8070206@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <4e23c7250911291036v473f889xa8171636ba67d382@mail.gmail.com> Bernard, come to The Netherlands and you'll see our trains (and trams, and buses, and cars, and lorries) drive on the richt track/part of the road. As soon as our international trains move into Belgium they move to the left track. Don't know how it's in Germany. Salutations, Jack Aeckerlin, Pays Bas 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/29 Bernard Cristalli > Trains roll on the left track all over the world. > I used to have RHD cars here (France, LHD). > Once I had been called at night, half awake, I stepped into my wife's > car which was the first to go in the drive way and... > "Bloody, they to the driving wheel!" > I was seating on the passenger's seat. > > Bernard > > Peter Schauss a icrit : > >> Interestingly, in Lisbon, the subways and trains all run on the left-hand >> track even though the Portuguese cars drive on the right. The must have >> hired a British company to design their subways. >> >> Peter Schauss >> 1963 BJ7 >> 1980 MGB >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- >>> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist >>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:48 PM >>> To: HealeyRick >>> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left >>> >>> I am in London from time to time. Generally yes they walk left as well, >>> but >>> London is quite international so people are sort of all over the place... >>> but the Tube is made for walking left, so that should let you know the >>> expected convention. >>> >>> Hong Kong walking is all over the place (also very international), but >>> they >>> have a great set up for pedestrians where when you come to a crosswalk, >>> there's big white letters & an arrow painted on the road to tell you >>> whether >>> to look left or right. Not a bad idea... >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> '52 A90 >>> '53 BN1 >>> '59 Jag Mk IX >>> '64 BJ8 >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:10 AM, HealeyRick >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Norman, >>>> >>>> I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we >>>> >>>> >>> do >>> >>> >>>> it >>>> when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British >>>> >>>> >>> "Walk >>> >>> >>>> left"? >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as bcrist at club-internet.fr >> >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From insptwo at msn.com Sun Nov 29 12:34:38 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:34:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well! My wife buys me a left handed schedule and date book. The pages flip the reverse of normal date books. Really makes it easy for me! I also remember getting constant "D" grades in school because I wrote left handed (but my writing wasn't really that bad) just because I was a lefty. I also remember what a mess those ink wells were. Bill BJ7 From: Awgertoo at aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:42:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left To: insptwo at msn.com Those of us who are old enough to have grown up using fountain pens will remember how difficult it was to write without leaving an ink smear. Or in the case of three-ring or spirally bound notebooks the need to constantly adjust our hand positions to avoid the rings in the notebooks. Or having our fingers jam in the openings of scissors (still the case unless you get a left-handed pair). And how about these facts: 1. Left in Spanish is "Sinestra", which is also linked to the occult and evil ("Sinister"). 2. Until well after WWII Japanese children were punished physically in order to rid them of their left-handedness. 3. The punishment of amputation of the right hand for petty crimes in certain parts of the world because the left hand was reserved for "personal cleaning" whereas the right was used for eating out the communal bowl. It's no wonder some left-handed folks grow up with bad attitudes.... Best--Michael Oritt From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sun Nov 29 13:22:25 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:22:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Reamers In-Reply-To: <3086449678658805151@unknownmsgid> References: <3086449678658805151@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <751d05480911291222t3031f2b7n585feb7ab118d28d@mail.gmail.com> Simon. Off the top of my head, the only common BSW thread on most Healeys is the front generator support bracket which uses a 5/16 BSW bolt into a threaded hole in the aluminum front plate of the generator. The confusion with the 5/16 BSW thread is that it has the same threads per inch as the 5/16 UNC thread (Most BSW have the same TPI with UNC except for 1/2"), therefore this bolt will screw in but it's not correct and SHOULD NOT be used. Why? Because Whitworth fasteners, by definition have a 55 degree pitch angle on the threads while Unified fasteners are 60 degrees. And yes, if you have a 100-6 or early 3000 this bolt will have been Whitworth. Even my Bugeye Sprite has a 5/16 BSW bolt in this spot. Anyone know of other BSW applications on other that the 100s? Curt Arndt Carlsbad, CA '55BN1, '60 AN5 :{) From michael at mcassociatesinc.com Sun Nov 29 13:23:33 2009 From: michael at mcassociatesinc.com (michael at mcassociatesinc.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:23:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Jamaican? Message-ID: <20091129152333.3vvfgfl7kgksooc8@webmail.mcassociatesinc.com> The following ad appeared in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette Antique and Classic Car ads today: "Austin Healey '65 3000 chassis, body fbgls Jamican made, make offer. 724-652-5010" If anyone on the list is interested in following up, let me know and I'd be glad to check it out. Mike Couch Pittsburgh 100M AN2 AN7 From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Sun Nov 29 14:56:51 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:56:51 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Keep Left In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, for those of you who never lived in a communist country you do not have an idea what keeping left is... Anything, a n y t h i n g that's right is better.. :-) Tadek PS. Any other ex-east block members on the list??... From Awgertoo at aol.com Sun Nov 29 15:13:05 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:13:05 EST Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Jamaican? Message-ID: In a message dated 11/29/2009 3:54:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, michael at mcassociatesinc.com writes: "Austin Healey '65 3000 chassis, body fbgls Jamican made, make offer. 724-652-5010" At the risk of stating the obvious the car was NOT made in Jamaica--it a "Jamaica which is a fiberglass replica with a Healey engine. They aren't necessarily bad (one fellow in our Capital Area Club has one--we do not require ownership of a Healey to be a member, only an "interest" in them) but they aren't a Healey and some car shows will not let him enter because they do not want replicas. Best--Michael From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Nov 29 15:17:48 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:17:48 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Jamaican? In-Reply-To: <20091129152333.3vvfgfl7kgksooc8@webmail.mcassociatesinc.com> Message-ID: <20091129161748.H0FK5.1138434.root@ispmxfep12-z01> I don't ever remember seeing it here-----probably never went to any AH or Brit car functions. tom ---- michael at mcassociatesinc.com wrote: ============= The following ad appeared in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette Antique and Classic Car ads today: "Austin Healey '65 3000 chassis, body fbgls Jamican made, make offer. 724-652-5010" If anyone on the list is interested in following up, let me know and I'd be glad to check it out. Mike Couch Pittsburgh 100M AN2 AN7 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Nov 29 15:49:01 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:49:01 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <553233.19430.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Isn't the practice to walk facing traffic to give yourself the most reaction time in the event of some abnormal incident? You know, someone driving on the sidewalk? > Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:10:18 -0800 > From: healeyrick at yahoo.com > > Norman, > > I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we do it > when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British "Walk > left"? From Jwhlyadv at aol.com Sun Nov 29 15:53:03 2009 From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jwhlyadv at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:53:03 EST Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Jamaican? Message-ID: I had one in the early 90's that was a complete drivable car. Some guy came up to me at a car show and told me about how he had it in his barn and wanted $1800 for it. I bought it, got it running and puttered around town in it and later tried to sell it at Conclave 93 for $2500 and never got an offer. The car was eventually sold and parted out for the Healey parts. The chassis and body went to a guy in Pittsburgh so I wonder if this is the same one. I still hold title to the car. Every year when I renew my plates for the regular cars they announce in a very loud voice that I owe back taxes on three Austin Healeys and people look at me like I am a criminal. Taxes on the Healeys are only eighty three cents per year Jim Werner Louisville, KY From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Nov 29 15:58:32 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:58:32 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Right Hand, Left Hand In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4ADF6@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: , <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4ADF6@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: Look both ways first. I was almost run over once because I was crossing a one way street and didn't expect someone to be coming the wrong way down it. Trust no one!!! ( Except Murphy! :) ) > The only time I really need to switch on my brain is when crossing a > road as a pedestrian. I was several times very close to be knocked over > by an approaching car. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany From healeynut at yahoo.com.au Sun Nov 29 16:01:52 2009 From: healeynut at yahoo.com.au (Don Hardie) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:01:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: References: <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <628855.24697.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <627214.13022.qm@web113103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> When I worked in Sydney in the 60s they painted yellow lines down the middle of the footpath (sidewalk) with signs saying walk on the left, after a year or so the lines and signs wore out and they didn't repaint them as no one took any notice of them. When I left Sydney in the late 90s it was still dog eat dog, I find it hard to believe things have changed. Don Hardie OZ BN1 ________________________________ From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn To: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net; HealeyRick Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 29 November, 2009 9:54:24 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left G'day Yes we certainly drive and walk on the left in Australia. The right is reserved from the drop bears when they fall out of the trees. We also stay to the left on escalators, while I read the other day that in London they stand to the right on escalators. Walking on the left was something I found quite interesting while we were in the US. Frequently we would forget and not move to the right. It didn't take long before it was made clear to us that we were on the wrong side. By the way I was at the historic racing today and in one mixed race it was an interesting and surprisingly close duel between an AH 3000 Mk1 and a Cooper T51. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team..net] On Behalf Of Norman Nock Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2009 7:04 AM To: HealeyRick Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left I left England in `1954 , we need an answer from a member in the UK Norman Nock --- On Sat, 11/28/09, HealeyRick wrote: From: HealeyRick Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left To: healeys at autox.team.net, sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 11:10 AM Norman, I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when driving, we do it when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. Do the British "Walk left"? Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeynut at yahoo.com.au http://www.team.net/archive _____________________________________________________________________________ _____ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/ From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Nov 29 16:23:08 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:23:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? Message-ID: <20091129.152330.17206.31803@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> Look at eBay item #180437624761. It is listed as an HS6, but has the bowl attached with 4 bolts and looks like an HD6. If you need one, that may be it. The usual disclaimer of having no financial interest, etc.. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Doctorate Degrees Online Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=8MD5rZQLwY_CkXIYwDKxzwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAL0KmT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= From Awgertoo at aol.com Sun Nov 29 16:40:45 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:40:45 EST Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Jamaican? Message-ID: In a message dated 11/29/2009 5:44:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frogeye at porterscustom.com writes: ...I think you are thinking of the Sebring which resembles a Healey, The Jamaican looks nothing like one, but uses the mechanicals.. -------------------------------------------- Oops I am 100% wrong and David is right. The Jamaican has a kind of angular body and resembles later Lotus's, etc. It was not built in Jamaica either! Best--Michael From Awgertoo at aol.com Sun Nov 29 16:44:39 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:44:39 EST Subject: [Healeys] NON-Healey: MG Builder's platte restoration Message-ID: MG's have builder's plates where the background of the plate is finished in black and the incised numbers/letters for car and engine number are in panels that are simply unpainted. You can see one at this site: _http://www.britcot.com/_ (http://www.britcot.com/) and scroll down to "MG ID Plates" Does anyone know where these plates can be refinished? The black paint on mine is all gone. Best--Michael Oritt From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Nov 29 17:20:42 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:20:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left Message-ID: <20091129.162142.10765.31286@mailpop07.dca.untd.com> Do we finally have this right so the subject can be left????? > When I worked in Sydney in the 60s they painted yellow lines down the > middle > of the footpath (sidewalk) with signs saying walk on the left, after > a year or > so the lines and signs wore out and they didn't repaint them as no > one took > any notice of them. When I left Sydney in the late 90s it was still > dog eat > dog, I find it hard to believe things have changed. > > Don Hardie > OZ > BN1 > ________________________________ > From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn > > To: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net; HealeyRick > > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, 29 November, 2009 > 9:54:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left > > G'day > > Yes we certainly drive and > walk on the left in Australia. The right is > reserved from the drop bears when > they fall out of the trees. > > We also stay to the left on escalators, while I > read the other day that in > London they stand to the right on escalators. > Walking on the left was something I found quite interesting while we > were in > the US. Frequently we would forget and not move to the right. It > didn't take > long before it was made clear to us that we were on the wrong side. > > By the > way I was at the historic racing today and in one mixed race it was > an > interesting and surprisingly close duel between an AH 3000 Mk1 and > a > Cooper > T51. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team..net] > On Behalf Of Norman Nock > Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2009 7:04 AM > To: HealeyRick > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left > > I left England in > `1954 , we need an answer from a member in the UK Norman > Nock > > --- On Sat, > 11/28/09, HealeyRick wrote: > > From: HealeyRick > > bject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left > To: > healeys at autox.team.net, sjnnock at sbcglobal.net > Date: Saturday, November 28, > 2009, 11:10 AM > > Norman, > > I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right > when driving, we do it > when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. > Do the British "Walk > left"? ____________________________________________________________ Doctorate Degrees Online Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=gQIu3ayCalNPZkZQPrDwQAAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAL0KmT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sun Nov 29 18:32:15 2009 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:32:15 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Jamaican? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3FD8BB6488B54DFE9583527D26C2010F@LeonardPCPC> A fiberglass "Jamaican" body was built by Fiberfab back in the '70s. They had kits for TR3, TR4, TR6, TR250, Austin Healey or MGA. The design was along the lines of a Datsun 240. They provided the body. You provided the chassis and running gear. They had offices in Bridgeville, PA, and Milpitas, CA. There was one for sale this year at Healey Rendezvous in Jackson, CA. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Jamaican? > In a message dated 11/29/2009 5:44:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > frogeye at porterscustom.com writes: > > ...I think you are thinking of the Sebring which resembles a Healey, The > Jamaican looks nothing like one, but uses the mechanicals.. > -------------------------------------------- > Oops I am 100% wrong and David is right. The Jamaican has a kind of > angular body and resembles later Lotus's, etc. It was not built in > Jamaica > either! > > Best--Michael > _______________________________________________ From Wwycoffbn7 at aol.com Sun Nov 29 19:06:46 2009 From: Wwycoffbn7 at aol.com (Wwycoffbn7 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:06:46 EST Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit Message-ID: Team, If my understanding is correct, one could restore or rebuild a 100-6 with a Reno Red paint, if it conformed to a certificate that showed that color and trim details. For example, the certificate for BN4-L-O/29609 states that the exterior color is Reno Red and the trim is Red with a Black hood. If one wanted that color combination and had the BMIHT certificate, any BN4 could be restored using those combinations and be fine. That certificate also lists Disc Wheels, no longer with the chassis. Perhaps to be proper one would have to rebuild to match that aspect also. One might search for a car that was built to the configuration one wanted, obtain the certificate and be fine with respect to one's desire and concours guides. Of course there is a lot more to Concours than color. Any and all realignment welcome. bill From Editorgary at aol.com Sun Nov 29 20:32:51 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:32:51 EST Subject: [Healeys] Left is right Message-ID: At the risk of prolonging this topic overlong, I remember hearing a puzzler on Car Talk Radio a few years ago. Seems that the archaeologists had discovered the site of a prehistoric quarry sight in Britain using infrared photography or some such. From the photographs they were able to conclude that even in prehistory, Brits had driven on the left. The puzzler was: How did they know that? The answer, once you hear it is obvious. They noted that at the point where the quarry entrance/exit had been, the earth was more compacted on the right side of the entrance than on the left. Obviously wagons, tumbrels, or whatever they were using to haul the stones arrived empty and left full, so when they came in and when they went out, they always drove to the left. So, Brits have been driving on the left side of the road for longer than recorded history. Imagine that. Best Gary From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Nov 29 21:15:14 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:15:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <173126440911292015q14f5ea89t903504d13c41f541@mail.gmail.com> Or one could paint their car any color they like, drive it for fun and enjoyment as a hobby and show the car at a British car field meet with people's choice voting. I understand building a to concourse level, but there are many on the list who just want to drive a really cool car customized by color and such to meet their own taste. I wanted to paint my car the correct red, mainly because I know the car is red, but I am color blind so needed an assist. cheers, just keep the bright side up On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:06 PM, wrote: > Team, > > If my understanding is correct, one could restore or rebuild a 100-6 with a > Reno Red paint, if it conformed to a certificate that showed that color > and trim details. > > For example, the certificate for BN4-L-O/29609 states that the exterior > color is Reno Red and the trim is Red with a Black hood. > > If one wanted that color combination and had the BMIHT certificate, any BN4 > could be restored using those combinations and be fine. That certificate > also lists Disc Wheels, no longer with the chassis. Perhaps to be proper > one would have to rebuild to match that aspect also. > > One might search for a car that was built to the configuration one wanted, > obtain the certificate and be fine with respect to one's desire and > concours guides. Of course there is a lot more to Concours than color. > > Any and all realignment welcome. > > bill > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From Editorgary at aol.com Sun Nov 29 21:29:05 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:29:05 EST Subject: [Healeys] Left is right Message-ID: In a message dated 11/29/09 8:23:18 PM, healey.nut at gmail.com writes: > The reason Britain, Japan and, at one time, Sweden drive on the left is > because they are maritime nations; their economy was based on the sea. When > these maritime nations were developing their Rules of the Road for > automobiles in the early 20th century, they turned to Rules of Road that were > already in place; Maritime Rules of the Road > But that doesn't exactly explain to me why, in prehistory, probably a few years before there were maritime rules of the road, the British (or Celts, or whatever they were calling themselves at the time) were already following the convention of driving their hauling vehicles on the driver's left as proven from archaelogical records. Gary From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Nov 29 21:36:56 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:36:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit References: Message-ID: <976E4B08D7374CDCA73F044B525D62E8@LIFEBOOK> Bill, If you desire to have a non standard colour scheme for a particular series, such as the example you mention BN4-L-O/29609, that will be fine for that particular car with no deduction. That will not hold true for "any BN4", just the particular one listed. If you for instance have a later BN4 built after the time period the colour was known to be available, you cannot hold up this earlier instance as being suitable to substantiate your desire for Reno Red. There is a description of standard deductions in the National Concours Committee Guidelines dealing with these instances of "standard colours" being applied to a car outside of the known time period. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit > Team, > > If my understanding is correct, one could restore or rebuild a 100-6 with > a > Reno Red paint, if it conformed to a certificate that showed that color > and trim details. > > For example, the certificate for BN4-L-O/29609 states that the exterior > color is Reno Red and the trim is Red with a Black hood. > > If one wanted that color combination and had the BMIHT certificate, any > BN4 > could be restored using those combinations and be fine. That certificate > also lists Disc Wheels, no longer with the chassis. Perhaps to be proper > one would have to rebuild to match that aspect also. > > One might search for a car that was built to the configuration one > wanted, > obtain the certificate and be fine with respect to one's desire and > concours guides. Of course there is a lot more to Concours than color. > > Any and all realignment welcome. > > bill > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Nov 29 21:45:58 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:45:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] rag top question Message-ID: <173126440911292045x70cc2466mfa04cffa95de14b3@mail.gmail.com> http://tinyurl.com/yf9coq5 *anyone buy/install a top from this company? * -- I Erbs Portland, OR From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Sun Nov 29 21:50:46 2009 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:50:46 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Left is right In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Several years ago, a political party in Quebec known as the Rhinoceros party had made a promise that, if elected, they would introduce driving on the left side. As good politicians do, they were going to introduce it in stages, cars first, then a month later trucks and buses............they di not get elected. Jean Caron > From: Editorgary at aol.com > Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:29:05 -0500 > To: healey.nut at gmail.com; Editorgary at aol.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Left is right > > In a message dated 11/29/09 8:23:18 PM, healey.nut at gmail.com writes: > > > > The reason Britain, Japan and, at one time, Sweden drive on the left is > > because they are maritime nations; their economy was based on the sea. When > > these maritime nations were developing their Rules of the Road for > > automobiles in the early 20th century, they turned to Rules of Road that were > > already in place; Maritime Rules of the Road > > > > But that doesn't exactly explain to me why, in prehistory, probably a few > years before there were maritime rules of the road, the British (or Celts, or > whatever they were calling themselves at the time) were already following > the convention of driving their hauling vehicles on the driver's left as > proven from archaelogical records. > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691815 From richard.ewald at gmail.com Sun Nov 29 22:49:23 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:49:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Late Friday funny Message-ID: Every so often you come across a page at Amazon that is funnier than hell. http://www.amazon.com/Mobile-Office-WM-01-Laptop-Steering/dp/B000IZGIA8 Make sure you look at all the customer supplied pictures and read the reviews... Rick From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 30 06:19:03 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:19:03 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <4B11C585.4040305@comcast.net> References: <20091128174651.718TM.1089088.root@ispmxfep13-z02>, <4B11C585.4040305@comcast.net> Message-ID: Wedding rings! > > << ....nothing is built for left handers!!! >> From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 30 06:25:22 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:25:22 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: References: , , <20091128174651.718TM.1089088.root@ispmxfep13-z02>, Message-ID: While not truly ambidextrous, I do seem to be able to make mistakes equally as well with either hand. > From: insptwo at msn.com > > That's why all us lefties have to stick togather. My wife bought me a shirt > that reads "all are born left handed, you turn right handed after your first > sin!" > > Bill > > BJ7 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 30 06:25:53 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:25:53 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: References: , , <20091128174651.718TM.1089088.root@ispmxfep13-z02>, Message-ID: While not truly ambidextrous, I do seem to be able to make mistakes equally as well with either hand. > From: insptwo at msn.com > > That's why all us lefties have to stick togather. My wife bought me a shirt > that reads "all are born left handed, you turn right handed after your first > sin!" > > Bill > > BJ7 From grday at btinternet.com Mon Nov 30 06:34:06 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:34:06 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Left is right References: Message-ID: They noted that at the point where the quarry entrance/exit had been, the earth was more compacted on the right side of the entrance than on the left. Obviously wagons .... arrived empty and left full, so when they came in and when they went out, they always drove to the left You are saying that if the ground was more compacted on the right it means the heavy vehicles leaving the quarry were on the left? And wasn't this observation one made in an Italian quarry - or so my internet searching said! GRD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:32 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Left is right > At the risk of prolonging this topic overlong, I remember hearing a > puzzler > on Car Talk Radio a few years ago. > > Seems that the archaeologists had discovered the site of a prehistoric > quarry sight in Britain using infrared photography or some such. From the > photographs they were able to conclude that even in prehistory, Brits had > driven > on the left. The puzzler was: How did they know that? > > The answer, once you hear it is obvious. They noted that at the point > where > the quarry entrance/exit had been, the earth was more compacted on the > right side of the entrance than on the left. Obviously wagons, tumbrels, > or > whatever they were using to haul the stones arrived empty and left full, > so when > they came in and when they went out, they always drove to the left. > > So, Brits have been driving on the left side of the road for longer than > recorded history. > > Imagine that. > > Best > Gary From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 30 06:38:41 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:38:41 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: References: <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, <628855.24697.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: This stuff intrigues me. So, what do you do if it's very crowded and the only side left is the right. Is it still wrong to be right? ;) > From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au > > G'day > > Yes we certainly drive and walk on the left in Australia. The right is > reserved from the drop bears when they fall out of the trees. > > We also stay to the left on escalators, while I read the other day that in > London they stand to the right on escalators. > > Walking on the left was something I found quite interesting while we were in > the US. Frequently we would forget and not move to the right. It didn't take > long before it was made clear to us that we were on the wrong side. > > By the way I was at the historic racing today and in one mixed race it was > an interesting and surprisingly close duel between an AH 3000 Mk1 and a > Cooper T51. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 30 06:48:18 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:48:18 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Have you considered switching to arabic from English? ;) RD > From: insptwo at msn.com > > Well! My wife buys me a left handed schedule and date book. The pages flip the > reverse of normal date books. Really makes it easy for me! I also remember > getting constant "D" grades in school because I wrote left handed (but my > writing wasn't really that bad) just because I was a lefty. I also remember > what a mess those ink wells were. > > Bill > > BJ7 From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Mon Nov 30 06:58:57 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:58:57 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Message-ID: <002f01ca71c5$432c8e90$c985abb0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Try this link. Daily Telegraph (UK broadsheet). Two Healeys. Neither particularly prominent, but worth a glance. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/picturegalleries/6671366/The-worlds-grea test-car-album-covers-picture-gallery---25-to-1.html Simon From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 30 06:59:30 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:59:30 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Left is right In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So they left on the left. Robert Duquette > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > At the risk of prolonging this topic overlong, I remember hearing a puzzler > on Car Talk Radio a few years ago. > > Seems that the archaeologists had discovered the site of a prehistoric > quarry sight in Britain using infrared photography or some such. From the > photographs they were able to conclude that even in prehistory, Brits had driven > on the left. The puzzler was: How did they know that? > > The answer, once you hear it is obvious. They noted that at the point where > the quarry entrance/exit had been, the earth was more compacted on the > right side of the entrance than on the left. Obviously wagons, tumbrels, or > whatever they were using to haul the stones arrived empty and left full, so when > they came in and when they went out, they always drove to the left. > > So, Brits have been driving on the left side of the road for longer than > recorded history. > > Imagine that. > > Best > Gary From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 30 07:11:22 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:11:22 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Reamers In-Reply-To: <751d05480911291222t3031f2b7n585feb7ab118d28d@mail.gmail.com> References: <3086449678658805151@unknownmsgid> <751d05480911291222t3031f2b7n585feb7ab118d28d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B13D28A.1060205@comcast.net> I always believed all the hydraulic--inc. fuel--fittings were 'Whitworth.' Zat true? bs Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Simon. > > Off the top of my head, the only common BSW thread on most Healeys is the > front generator support bracket which uses a 5/16 BSW bolt into a threaded > hole in the aluminum front plate of the generator. > > The confusion with the 5/16 BSW thread is that it has the same threads per > inch as the 5/16 UNC thread (Most BSW have the same TPI with UNC except for > 1/2"), therefore this bolt will screw in but it's not correct and SHOULD NOT > be used. Why? Because Whitworth fasteners, by definition have a 55 degree > pitch angle on the threads while Unified fasteners are 60 degrees. > > And yes, if you have a 100-6 or early 3000 this bolt will have been > Whitworth. Even my Bugeye Sprite has a 5/16 BSW bolt in this spot. > > Anyone know of other BSW applications on other that the 100s? > > Curt Arndt > Carlsbad, CA > '55BN1, '60 AN5 :{) > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Nov 30 07:27:39 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:27:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit In-Reply-To: <976E4B08D7374CDCA73F044B525D62E8@LIFEBOOK> References: <976E4B08D7374CDCA73F044B525D62E8@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <002401ca71c9$459cce70$d0d66b50$@rr.com> Rich, what about Metallic Golden Beige for BJ8s? All of the chassis numbers and build dates are known for the original Metallic Golden Beige cars. If someone presents a Phase 2 BJ8 in Concours painted in Metallic Golden Beige with a chassis number that pre-dates the availability of that color from the factory, would there be a deduction? Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich C Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:37 PM To: Wwycoffbn7 at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit Bill, If you desire to have a non standard colour scheme for a particular series, such as the example you mention BN4-L-O/29609, that will be fine for that particular car with no deduction. That will not hold true for "any BN4", just the particular one listed. If you for instance have a later BN4 built after the time period the colour was known to be available, you cannot hold up this earlier instance as being suitable to substantiate your desire for Reno Red. There is a description of standard deductions in the National Concours Committee Guidelines dealing with these instances of "standard colours" being applied to a car outside of the known time period. Rich Chrysler From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 07:31:25 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:31:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Or Hebrew I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:48 AM, wrote: > Have you considered switching to arabic from English? ;) > > RD > > >> From: insptwo at msn.com >> >> Well! My wife buys me a left handed schedule and date book. The >> pages flip > the >> reverse of normal date books. Really makes it easy for me! I also >> remember >> getting constant "D" grades in school because I wrote left handed >> (but my >> writing wasn't really that bad) just because I was a lefty. I also >> remember >> what a mess those ink wells were. >> >> Bill >> >> BJ7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 07:34:09 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:34:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Left is right In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My 3:00AM thought on this is that maybe Roman chariots is the reason. Train rails were determined by the width of chariot wheels. .... I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:59 AM, wrote: > So they left on the left. > > Robert Duquette > >> From: Editorgary at aol.com >> >> At the risk of prolonging this topic overlong, I remember hearing a >> puzzler >> on Car Talk Radio a few years ago. >> >> Seems that the archaeologists had discovered the site of a >> prehistoric >> quarry sight in Britain using infrared photography or some such. >> From the >> photographs they were able to conclude that even in prehistory, >> Brits had > driven >> on the left. The puzzler was: How did they know that? >> >> The answer, once you hear it is obvious. They noted that at the >> point where >> the quarry entrance/exit had been, the earth was more compacted on >> the >> right side of the entrance than on the left. Obviously wagons, >> tumbrels, or >> whatever they were using to haul the stones arrived empty and left >> full, so > when >> they came in and when they went out, they always drove to the left. >> >> So, Brits have been driving on the left side of the road for longer >> than >> recorded history. >> >> Imagine that. >> >> Best >> Gary > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From dwflagg at juno.com Mon Nov 30 07:36:25 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg at juno.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:36:25 GMT Subject: [Healeys] Left is right Message-ID: <20091130.093625.6792.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com> Have you considered a late night talk show.????? :) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Left is right Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:59:30 +0000 So they left on the left. Robert Duquette > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > At the risk of prolonging this topic overlong, I remember hearing a puzzler > on Car Talk Radio a few years ago. > > Seems that the archaeologists had discovered the site of a prehistoric > quarry sight in Britain using infrared photography or some such. From the > photographs they were able to conclude that even in prehistory, Brits had driven > on the left. The puzzler was: How did they know that? > > The answer, once you hear it is obvious. They noted that at the point where > the quarry entrance/exit had been, the earth was more compacted on the > right side of the entrance than on the left. Obviously wagons, tumbrels, or > whatever they were using to haul the stones arrived empty and left full, so when > they came in and when they went out, they always drove to the left. > > So, Brits have been driving on the left side of the road for longer than > recorded history. > > Imagine that. > > Best > Gary Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as dwflagg at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive ____________________________________________________________ Online Psychology Degrees Earn your psychology degree online. Earn your BS, MA, MBA, Ph.D now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=_40TWF3tBSn3cVl2EMbPKgAAJ1B-9tt c3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAOJ-ND4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWSEwAAAAA= From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 07:37:53 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:37:53 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Reamers In-Reply-To: <4B13D28A.1060205@comcast.net> References: <3086449678658805151@unknownmsgid> <751d05480911291222t3031f2b7n585feb7ab118d28d@mail.gmail.com> <4B13D28A.1060205@comcast.net> Message-ID: <751d05480911300637u13680409sddfb51b5d623dc58@mail.gmail.com> Bob, Whitworth in that I beleive they are BSPP (British Standard Pipe Parallel.) Remember there are five different Whitworth thread forms, i.e. BSW, BSF, BSPP, BSPT, and BSB (British Standard Brass.) British Standard Fine is the most common on the 100s, followed by Bripish Standard Pipe Parallel, and a few British standard Whitworth. Cheers, Curt On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > I always believed all the hydraulic--inc. fuel--fittings were 'Whitworth.' > Zat true? > > > bs > > > > Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > >> Simon. >> >> Off the top of my head, the only common BSW thread on most Healeys is the >> front generator support bracket which uses a 5/16 BSW bolt into a threaded >> hole in the aluminum front plate of the generator. >> >> The confusion with the 5/16 BSW thread is that it has the same threads per >> inch as the 5/16 UNC thread (Most BSW have the same TPI with UNC except >> for >> 1/2"), therefore this bolt will screw in but it's not correct and SHOULD >> NOT >> be used. Why? Because Whitworth fasteners, by definition have a 55 >> degree >> pitch angle on the threads while Unified fasteners are 60 degrees. >> >> And yes, if you have a 100-6 or early 3000 this bolt will have been >> Whitworth. Even my Bugeye Sprite has a 5/16 BSW bolt in this spot. >> >> Anyone know of other BSW applications on other that the 100s? >> >> Curt Arndt >> Carlsbad, CA >> '55BN1, '60 AN5 :{) >> >> >> > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* From healeymnster at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 08:07:02 2009 From: healeymnster at gmail.com (Ed Townley) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:07:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Right Hand, Left Hand Message-ID: <164073bc0911300707q6650c348w29e84419f58842ee@mail.gmail.com> Winston Churchill learned this lesson the hard way as he spent several weeks in a hospital during WWII era due to looking the wrong way before stepping off the curb during a visit to NYC. Ed Townley Southern NM, USA From: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Right Hand, Left Hand To: Healeys Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Look both ways first. I was almost run over once because I was crossing a one way street and didn't expect someone to be coming the wrong way down it. Trust no one!!! ( Except Murphy! :) ) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 30 08:45:21 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:45:21 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Left is right In-Reply-To: <20091130.093625.6792.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com> References: <20091130.093625.6792.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: I've been told more than a few times "not to quit my day job". :) > From: dwflagg at juno.com > > Have you considered a late night talk show.????? :) > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: > > So they left on the left. > > Robert Duquette > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > > > At the risk of prolonging this topic overlong, I remember hearing a puzzler > > on Car Talk Radio a few years ago. > > > > Seems that the archaeologists had discovered the site of a prehistoric > > quarry sight in Britain using infrared photography or some such. From the > > photographs they were able to conclude that even in prehistory, Brits had > driven > > on the left. The puzzler was: How did they know that? > > > > The answer, once you hear it is obvious. They noted that at the point where > > the quarry entrance/exit had been, the earth was more compacted on the > > right side of the entrance than on the left. Obviously wagons, tumbrels, or > > whatever they were using to haul the stones arrived empty and left full, so > when > > they came in and when they went out, they always drove to the left. > > > > So, Brits have been driving on the left side of the road for longer than > > recorded history. > > > > Imagine that. > > > > Best > > Gary From robertlarson at att.net Mon Nov 30 08:54:14 2009 From: robertlarson at att.net (Bob) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:54:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Reamers In-Reply-To: <751d05480911300637u13680409sddfb51b5d623dc58@mail.gmail.com> References: <3086449678658805151@unknownmsgid> <751d05480911291222t3031f2b7n585feb7ab118d28d@mail.gmail.com> <4B13D28A.1060205@comcast.net> <751d05480911300637u13680409sddfb51b5d623dc58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B13EAA6.6020504@att.net> Five? Maybe more... There is BA (British Association) which is more metric than anything and doesn't use the 55 degree but is a British thread form. But, I would think, that there is for sure a 6th. CEI (Cycle Engineers Institute) or BSC (British Standard Cycle) Bob 55 BN1 and Whitworth equipped Motorcycles. Triumph, BSA, Norton, Matchless, Royal Enfield Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Bob, > > Whitworth in that I beleive they are BSPP (British Standard Pipe Parallel.) > > > Remember there are five different Whitworth thread forms, i.e. BSW, BSF, > BSPP, BSPT, and BSB (British Standard Brass.) > > British Standard Fine is the most common on the 100s, followed by Bripish > Standard Pipe Parallel, and a few British standard Whitworth. > > Cheers, > > Curt From scvc70 at epix.net Mon Nov 30 09:00:44 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:00:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Right Hand, Left Hand References: , <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4ADF6@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: And Winston Churchill was hit (and serious injured) by a car in New York City because he looked in the wrong direction for oncoming traffic.... Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Healeys" Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Right Hand, Left Hand > Look both ways first. I was almost run over once because I was crossing a > one > way street and didn't expect someone to be coming the wrong way down it. > Trust no one!!! ( Except Murphy! :) ) From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Mon Nov 30 09:06:38 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:06:38 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Right Hand, Left Hand In-Reply-To: <164073bc0911300707q6650c348w29e84419f58842ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <164073bc0911300707q6650c348w29e84419f58842ee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000301ca71d7$195fb350$4c1f19f0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> 1931. He was looking for Bernard Baruch's house. Churchill was a great admirer of Baruch though I'm not sure he always followed his precepts. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed Townley Sent: 30 November 2009 15:07 To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Right Hand, Left Hand Winston Churchill learned this lesson the hard way as he spent several weeks in a hospital during WWII era due to looking the wrong way before stepping off the curb during a visit to NYC. Ed Townley Southern NM, USA From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 09:06:35 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:06:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Left is right In-Reply-To: <20091130.093625.6792.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com> References: <20091130.093625.6792.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <173126440911300806q75841333r3d48d29bd7ad37b0@mail.gmail.com> My thoughts won't wake my wife...... On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:36 AM, dwflagg at juno.com wrote: > Have you considered a late night talk show.????? :) > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: > To: Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Left is right > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:59:30 +0000 > > So they left on the left. > > Robert Duquette > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > > > At the risk of prolonging this topic overlong, I remember hearing a > puzzler > > on Car Talk Radio a few years ago. > > > > Seems that the archaeologists had discovered the site of a prehistoric > > quarry sight in Britain using infrared photography or some such. From the > > photographs they were able to conclude that even in prehistory, Brits had > driven > > on the left. The puzzler was: How did they know that? > > > > The answer, once you hear it is obvious. They noted that at the point > where > > the quarry entrance/exit had been, the earth was more compacted on the > > right side of the entrance than on the left. Obviously wagons, tumbrels, > or > > whatever they were using to haul the stones arrived empty and left full, > so > when > > they came in and when they went out, they always drove to the left. > > > > So, Brits have been driving on the left side of the road for longer than > > recorded history. > > > > Imagine that. > > > > Best > > Gary > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dwflagg at juno.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Online Psychology Degrees > Earn your psychology degree online. Earn your BS, MA, MBA, Ph.D now. > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=_40TWF3tBSn3cVl2EMbPKgAAJ1B-9tt > c3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAOJ-ND4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWSEwAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 30 09:14:03 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:14:03 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?windows-1252?q?=28no_subject=29_-_world=92s_greatest_?= =?windows-1252?q?car_album?= In-Reply-To: <002f01ca71c5$432c8e90$c985abb0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <002f01ca71c5$432c8e90$c985abb0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: Don't forget to mention the A-90 future donor car ... ( ducking and running ) ED > From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk > > Try this link. Daily Telegraph (UK broadsheet). Two Healeys. Neither > particularly prominent, but worth a glance. > > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/picturegalleries/6671366/The-worlds-grea > test-car-album-covers-picture-gallery---25-to-1.html > > Simon From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 09:20:07 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:20:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Reamers In-Reply-To: <4B13EAA6.6020504@att.net> References: <3086449678658805151@unknownmsgid> <751d05480911291222t3031f2b7n585feb7ab118d28d@mail.gmail.com> <4B13D28A.1060205@comcast.net> <751d05480911300637u13680409sddfb51b5d623dc58@mail.gmail.com> <4B13EAA6.6020504@att.net> Message-ID: <751d05480911300820o776cc296p6312ceb930daa8c7@mail.gmail.com> Bob and Listers, For those who aren't familiar, *by definition*, Whitworth thread forms are those where the angle of the threads is 55 degrees versus the 60 degrees of of most modern threads. Therefore the five Whitworth Thread Forms include... *British Standard Whitworth (BSW)* - As mentioned as being used on the generator bracket and not exclusive to the 100s. *British Standard Fine (BSF)* - Most engine, transmission & suspension bolts on 100s. *British Standard Pipe Parallel (BSP)* *or (BSPP) *- Brass drain plugs and valves, fuel and brake line fittings on most Healeys. *British Standard Pipe Tapered (BSPT)* - As above but tapered, not used to my knowledge on Healeys. *British Standard Brass (BSB)* - Used in thin walled tubing and ALL have 26TPI no matter the diameter. The mounting post on Lucas SFT/SLT 576 driving lights would have been this thread form. Other British Fasteners that are *NOT Whitworth* include... *British Association (BA)* - Used in Healey instruments and fuel pumps. 47 1/2 degree angle of the threads. *British Standard Cycle (BSC)* - Used on a lot of British motorcycles and most but NOT ALL threads are 26 TPI. The angle of the threads is 60degrees. Wikipedia lists BSC as Whitworth and they are WRONG. *Cycle engineers Institute (CEI)* - Older cycle thread superseded by BSC. The angle of the threads is 60 degrees. The following two are what the British switched to after moving from the Whitworth standard. *Unified Coarse (UNC)* - Identical to American SAE Coarse and * Interchangeable*. The angle of the threads is 60 degrees. *Unified Fine (UNF)* - Identical to American SAE Fine and *Interchangeable*. The angle of the threads is 60 degrees. Cheers, Curt On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Bob wrote: > Five? Maybe more... > > There is BA (British Association) which is more metric than anything and > doesn't use the 55 degree > but is a British thread form. > > But, I would think, that there is for sure a 6th. CEI (Cycle Engineers > Institute) or BSC (British > Standard Cycle) > > Bob > 55 BN1 and Whitworth equipped Motorcycles. Triumph, BSA, Norton, > Matchless, Royal Enfield > > Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > >> Bob, >> >> Whitworth in that I beleive they are BSPP (British Standard Pipe >> Parallel.) >> >> >> Remember there are five different Whitworth thread forms, i.e. BSW, BSF, >> BSPP, BSPT, and BSB (British Standard Brass.) >> >> British Standard Fine is the most common on the 100s, followed by Bripish >> Standard Pipe Parallel, and a few British standard Whitworth. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Curt From ah3000me at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 09:44:47 2009 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:44:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Late Friday funny In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Check out the wheel on this baby: http://www.samefacts.com/archives/image001.jpg - Tom On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Richard Ewald wrote: > Every so often you come across a page at Amazon that is funnier than hell. > http://www.amazon.com/Mobile-Office-WM-01-Laptop-Steering/dp/B000IZGIA8 > Make sure you look at all the customer supplied pictures and read the > reviews... > Rick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 30 10:01:54 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:01:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Reamers In-Reply-To: <751d05480911300820o776cc296p6312ceb930daa8c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <759624276.7678721259600514801.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> re: "*Unified Fine (UNF)* - Identical to American SAE Fine and *Interchangeable*. The angle of the threads is 60 degrees." Are you sure about this one? For instance, the threads on the large U-bolt that fastens the axle to rear springs is noted as 'UNF' in, for instance, the Moss catalog. I believe they are either 5/16" or 3/8." Anyway, we tried to run SAE fine nuts on them--they'll go about 3/4" inch just fine, then jam. A thread chaser will go 3/4", then cut, then go 3/4", then cut, etc. Same story with some of the nuts and bolts on the shock hardware. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Bob and Listers, For those who aren't familiar, *by definition*, Whitworth thread forms are those where the angle of the threads is 55 degrees versus the 60 degrees of of most modern threads. Therefore the five Whitworth Thread Forms include... *British Standard Whitworth (BSW)* - As mentioned as being used on the generator bracket and not exclusive to the 100s. *British Standard Fine (BSF)* - Most engine, transmission & suspension bolts on 100s. *British Standard Pipe Parallel (BSP)* *or (BSPP) *- Brass drain plugs and valves, fuel and brake line fittings on most Healeys. *British Standard Pipe Tapered (BSPT)* - As above but tapered, not used to my knowledge on Healeys. *British Standard Brass (BSB)* - Used in thin walled tubing and ALL have 26TPI no matter the diameter. The mounting post on Lucas SFT/SLT 576 driving lights would have been this thread form. Other British Fasteners that are *NOT Whitworth* include... *British Association (BA)* - Used in Healey instruments and fuel pumps. 47 1/2 degree angle of the threads. *British Standard Cycle (BSC)* - Used on a lot of British motorcycles and most but NOT ALL threads are 26 TPI. The angle of the threads is 60degrees. Wikipedia lists BSC as Whitworth and they are WRONG. *Cycle engineers Institute (CEI)* - Older cycle thread superseded by BSC. The angle of the threads is 60 degrees. The following two are what the British switched to after moving from the Whitworth standard. *Unified Coarse (UNC)* - Identical to American SAE Coarse and * Interchangeable*. The angle of the threads is 60 degrees. *Unified Fine (UNF)* - Identical to American SAE Fine and *Interchangeable*. The angle of the threads is 60 degrees. Cheers, Curt From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Nov 30 10:32:31 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:32:31 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? In-Reply-To: <20091129.152330.17206.31803@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> References: <20091129.152330.17206.31803@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: IMHO, That carb is as listed. An HD6 is angled. Supposedly the "d" means downdraft (semi). On Nov 29, 2009, at 3:23 PM, dwflagg wrote: > Look at eBay item #180437624761. It is listed as an HS6, but has the > bowl > attached with 4 bolts and looks like an HD6. If you need one, that > may be > it. The usual disclaimer of having no financial interest, etc.. > > Doug > ____________________________________________________________ > Doctorate Degrees Online > Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=8MD5rZQLwY_CkXIYwDKxzwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAL0KmT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 30 11:29:13 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:29:13 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Late Friday funny In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Sorry, I have to do it ... It's LHD!! Robert Duquette ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:44:47 -0500 > > Check out the wheel on this baby: > http://www.samefacts.com/archives/image001.jpg From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 30 11:31:46 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:31:46 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Reamers Message-ID: <4B140F92.2030107@chello.nl> Didn't they make a proper mess by screwing it all up. Kees Oudesluijs Curt/Nancy Arndt schreef: Bob and Listers, For those who aren't familiar, *by definition*, Whitworth thread forms are those where the angle of the threads is 55 degrees versus the 60 degrees of of most modern threads. Therefore the five Whitworth Thread Forms include... *British Standard Whitworth (BSW)* - As mentioned as being used on the generator bracket and not exclusive to the 100s. *British Standard Fine (BSF)* - Most engine, transmission & suspension bolts on 100s. *British Standard Pipe Parallel (BSP)* *or (BSPP) *- Brass drain plugs and valves, fuel and brake line fittings on most Healeys. *British Standard Pipe Tapered (BSPT)* - As above but tapered, not used to my knowledge on Healeys. *British Standard Brass (BSB)* - Used in thin walled tubing and ALL have 26TPI no matter the diameter. The mounting post on Lucas SFT/SLT 576 driving lights would have been this thread form. Other British Fasteners that are *NOT Whitworth* include... *British Association (BA)* - Used in Healey instruments and fuel pumps. 47 1/2 degree angle of the threads. *British Standard Cycle (BSC)* - Used on a lot of British motorcycles and most but NOT ALL threads are 26 TPI. The angle of the threads is 60degrees. Wikipedia lists BSC as Whitworth and they are WRONG. *Cycle engineers Institute (CEI)* - Older cycle thread superseded by BSC. The angle of the threads is 60 degrees. The following two are what the British switched to after moving from the Whitworth standard. *Unified Coarse (UNC)* - Identical to American SAE Coarse and * Interchangeable*. The angle of the threads is 60 degrees. *Unified Fine (UNF)* - Identical to American SAE Fine and *Interchangeable*. The angle of the threads is 60 degrees. Cheers, Curt From robertlarson at att.net Mon Nov 30 12:32:02 2009 From: robertlarson at att.net (Bob) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:32:02 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Reamers In-Reply-To: <751d05480911300820o776cc296p6312ceb930daa8c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3086449678658805151@unknownmsgid> <751d05480911291222t3031f2b7n585feb7ab118d28d@mail.gmail.com> <4B13D28A.1060205@comcast.net> <751d05480911300637u13680409sddfb51b5d623dc58@mail.gmail.com> <4B13EAA6.6020504@att.net> <751d05480911300820o776cc296p6312ceb930daa8c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B141DB2.2070107@att.net> /rMy64r: Permission denied From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 30 12:42:08 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:42:08 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Late Friday funny In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Some people have to go and ruin all the fun ... http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/computer.asp > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:44:47 -0500 > > Check out the wheel on this baby: > http://www.samefacts.com/archives/image001.jpg > > - Tom From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 30 12:44:33 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:44:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? In-Reply-To: References: <20091129.152330.17206.31803@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: HD is for diaphgram jet with a seperate float bowl HS is for pipe jet with a seperate float bowl HI is for the integrated float bowl H is for the integrated jet with seperate float bowl David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > IMHO, That carb is as listed. > > An HD6 is angled. Supposedly the "d" means downdraft (semi). > > On Nov 29, 2009, at 3:23 PM, dwflagg wrote: > >> Look at eBay item #180437624761. It is listed as an HS6, but has >> the bowl >> attached with 4 bolts and looks like an HD6. If you need one, that >> may be >> it. The usual disclaimer of having no financial interest, etc.. >> >> Doug >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Doctorate Degrees Online >> Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c? >> cp=8MD5rZQLwY_CkXIYwDKxzwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAL0KmT >> 4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bluehealey at googlemail.com Mon Nov 30 12:58:37 2009 From: bluehealey at googlemail.com (AlanB) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:58:37 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Team This guidance assumes that the BMIHT Certificate is a true reflection of the information held in the microfiche archive of the factory Build Cards. Of the three Certificates that I have bought, I have been able to prove conclusively that there were errors in two of them. I therefore have a rather cynical view of the service provided by these 'Archivists'. For example, my first BN4 certificate clearly stated the car left the factory on 29th February 1957 with a paint job of Reno Red over Black. During restoration, and under four further coats of paint, I found Colorado Red. When disputing the Certificate details I managed to coerce a copy of the Build Card from them. It clearly said the car was 'Red' - no qualification, and a build date of 27th February. They have been known to make stuff up!! Then there is the BJ8 engine number story - but that would make you weep. _____________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) (______ \____1957-BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Wwycoffbn7 at aol.com Sent: 30 November 2009 02:07 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit Team, If my understanding is correct, one could restore or rebuild a 100-6 with a Reno Red paint, if it conformed to a certificate that showed that color and trim details. For example, the certificate for BN4-L-O/29609 states that the exterior color is Reno Red and the trim is Red with a Black hood. If one wanted that color combination and had the BMIHT certificate, any BN4 could be restored using those combinations and be fine. That certificate also lists Disc Wheels, no longer with the chassis. Perhaps to be proper one would have to rebuild to match that aspect also. One might search for a car that was built to the configuration one wanted, obtain the certificate and be fine with respect to one's desire and concours guides. Of course there is a lot more to Concours than color. Any and all realignment welcome. bill From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Nov 30 13:48:08 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:48:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002e01ca71fe$6c5ff3e0$451fdba0$@rr.com> Hi, Alan - I have copies of BMIHT certificates for 661 BJ8s. For some cars, I have multiple certificates issued for the same car at different times with different information. So, I have ample evidence that there are errors on the certificates far too frequently for the price they are asking for them now. However, I'm not sure if you are considering a build date of 27 February and a date when the car left the factory of 29 February as in conflict. The certificates (for BJ8s, anyway) designate the build dates as the dates between "Off Body Line" and "Off Finishing". There is another date not given on the certificates ("Date Advised") which I interpret as the date that Production notified the next department (Shipping?) that the car was ready to go. The actual "Despatch" date could be the same date as the "build" date, or several days, weeks, or months later. It's possible that your car's build date ("Off Finishing") was 27 February, but the date if left the factory ("Despatch date") was 29 February. I would be interested in your BJ8 engine story, off line if you prefer. I am aware of the engine situation with HBJ8L/32431, if that's what you're referring to. Happy Healeying! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of AlanB Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 2:59 PM To: Wwycoffbn7 at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit Team This guidance assumes that the BMIHT Certificate is a true reflection of the information held in the microfiche archive of the factory Build Cards. Of the three Certificates that I have bought, I have been able to prove conclusively that there were errors in two of them. I therefore have a rather cynical view of the service provided by these 'Archivists'. For example, my first BN4 certificate clearly stated the car left the factory on 29th February 1957 with a paint job of Reno Red over Black. During restoration, and under four further coats of paint, I found Colorado Red. When disputing the Certificate details I managed to coerce a copy of the Build Card from them. It clearly said the car was 'Red' - no qualification, and a build date of 27th February. They have been known to make stuff up!! Then there is the BJ8 engine number story - but that would make you weep. From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon Nov 30 14:22:04 2009 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:22:04 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: References: <466827.75221.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, <628855.24697.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: G'day Robert If there are more pedestrian going in the one direction they of course would spill on to the right or the road, then you might get skittled by a bus. Just last week I was walking behind two young females and from their language I assumed they were German. They arrived at an intersection, looked left and started to cross. I yelled at them to stop as there was traffic coming from the right. It was a close call. On a more enjoyable note I am picking up the BN3 this arvo from the trimmers after it's been recarpeted. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 12:39 AM To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left This stuff intrigues me. So, what do you do if it's very crowded and the only side left is the right. Is it still wrong to be right? ;) > From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au > > G'day > > Yes we certainly drive and walk on the left in Australia. The right is > reserved from the drop bears when they fall out of the trees. > > We also stay to the left on escalators, while I read the other day that in > London they stand to the right on escalators. > > Walking on the left was something I found quite interesting while we were in > the US. Frequently we would forget and not move to the right. It didn't take > long before it was made clear to us that we were on the wrong side. > > By the way I was at the historic racing today and in one mixed race it was > an interesting and surprisingly close duel between an AH 3000 Mk1 and a > Cooper T51. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as p_cquinn at tpg.com.au http://www.team.net/archive From rnbmail at yahoo.com Mon Nov 30 14:23:52 2009 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:23:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Keep left In-Reply-To: <628855.24697.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <30398.72829.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The intelligent ones basicaly do - undeground train elevators, crowded areas, airport corridors etc.... The dumbies, the anti-establishment and the foreigners do as they want. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Norman Nock wrote: > From: Norman Nock > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left > To: "HealeyRick" > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 12:04 PM > I left England in `1954 , we need an > answer from a member in the UK Norman > Nock > > --- On Sat, 11/28/09, HealeyRick > wrote: > > From: HealeyRick > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keep left > To: healeys at autox.team.net, > sjnnock at sbcglobal.net > Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 11:10 AM > > Norman, > > I've noticed that not only do we Americans keep right when > driving, we do it > when walking on sidewalks or down a hallway as well. > Do the British "Walk > left"? > > --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Norman Nock > wrote: > > From: Norman Nock > Subject: [Healeys] Keep left > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 1:36 PM > > The first > recorded history of KEEP LEFT was horse and wagons > crossing the bridge over the Thames River in London when > all there was was > horse and wagons , this was causing major problems on the > bridge with some > wagons on the left side of the bridge and some on > the right side , the local > police started to guide the horse and wagons on one side > which happened to be > the left , all it took was time for it to be KEEP LEFT on > all roads on London > roads .. > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 30 14:31:54 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:31:54 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France Message-ID: Hi! My son is going to Paris over the Christmas holidays. Unfortunately he booked a flight to Lyon when he should have gone direct to Paris. Now, he's looking at taking a train from Lyon to Paris. Does anyone on the list have any helpful information on how to get around there? Including how well the French understand English? :) TIA! Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 30 14:48:10 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:48:10 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit In-Reply-To: <002e01ca71fe$6c5ff3e0$451fdba0$@rr.com> References: , , <002e01ca71fe$6c5ff3e0$451fdba0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Yeah! I don't think that it's right to tease us like that! :) > From: sbyers at ec.rr.com > > I would be interested in your BJ8 engine story, off line if you prefer. I > am aware of the engine situation with HBJ8L/32431, if that's what you're > referring to. > > Happy Healeying! > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: AlanB > > Then there is the BJ8 engine number story - but that would make you weep. From geatros at shaw.ca Mon Nov 30 15:01:34 2009 From: geatros at shaw.ca (Geatros) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:01:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 3 Lefts Make a Right Message-ID: <508FFC176D114F3BAF7037CCD91077F6@soloPC> Don't forget .... 3 Lefts Make a Right From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Nov 30 15:01:56 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:01:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit References: <976E4B08D7374CDCA73F044B525D62E8@LIFEBOOK> <002401ca71c9$459cce70$d0d66b50$@rr.com> Message-ID: Yes, unless the owner or entrant can prove otherwise. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJ8 Healeys" To: Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit > Rich, what about Metallic Golden Beige for BJ8s? All of the chassis > numbers > and build dates are known for the original Metallic Golden Beige cars. If > someone presents a Phase 2 BJ8 in Concours painted in Metallic Golden > Beige > with a chassis number that pre-dates the availability of that color from > the > factory, would there be a deduction? > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Rich C > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:37 PM > To: Wwycoffbn7 at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit > > Bill, > > If you desire to have a non standard colour scheme for a particular > series, > such as the example you mention BN4-L-O/29609, that will be fine for that > particular car with no deduction. That will not hold true for "any BN4", > just the particular one listed. If you for instance have a later BN4 > built > after the time period the colour was known to be available, you cannot > hold > up this earlier instance as being suitable to substantiate your desire for > Reno Red. > There is a description of standard deductions in the National Concours > Committee Guidelines dealing with these instances of "standard colours" > being applied to a car outside of the known time period. > > Rich Chrysler > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Mon Nov 30 15:20:19 2009 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John & Kerry Rowe) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:20:19 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: 100-6 HD6 Carb? Message-ID: <20091130222023.QQWJ7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> -----Original Message----- From: John & Kerry Rowe [mailto:jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 7:46 AM To: 'Eric (Rick) Wilkins' Subject: RE: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? The carb is a HD6 . I believe the "d" stands for "diaphragm". They are interchangeable from side to semidown by use of different float bowls. John Rowe Qld Australia BN1 BT7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eric (Rick) Wilkins Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 3:33 AM To: dwflagg Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? IMHO, That carb is as listed. An HD6 is angled. Supposedly the "d" means downdraft (semi). On Nov 29, 2009, at 3:23 PM, dwflagg wrote: > Look at eBay item #180437624761. It is listed as an HS6, but has the > bowl > attached with 4 bolts and looks like an HD6. If you need one, that > may be > it. The usual disclaimer of having no financial interest, etc.. > > Doug > ____________________________________________________________ From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Nov 30 15:24:39 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:24:39 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B144627.1010204@chello.nl> Travel will be easy using the TGV, high speed train from Lyon to Paris/Gare Lyon. You have to reserve a seat though. I think there is even a TGV train station in the airport, Saint-Exupery I believe. Travel in Paris is by Metro which is very cheap and easy. You can by a pack of 10 tickets at the shops in Metro stations. Avoid the automated selling machines, they are hopeless. You can travel any distance you like on one ticket as long as you stay underground. There may be a time limit , I am not sure. For time tables and other info just Google, they have info in English as well. Many younger people do speak English, some even very good. The older generation will mostly speak French only. The French are usually very helpfull and friendly but they can be a bit gruff. Some sites, http://www.bonjourlafrance.com/france-trains/tgv-lyon-bourgogne-franche-comte/paris-lyon-saint-exupery-tgv.htm http://www.voyages-sncf.com/ http://www.eurorailways.com/products/trains_tickets/lyopar.htm Kees Oudesluijs robertduquette at sympatico.ca schreef: > Hi! > > > > My son is going to Paris over the Christmas holidays. Unfortunately he booked > a flight to Lyon when he should have gone direct to Paris. Now, he's looking > at taking a train from Lyon to Paris. Does anyone on the list have any > helpful information on how to get around there? Including how well the French > understand English? :) > > > TIA! > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 15:44:01 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:44:01 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com> had very little trouble speaking English in Paris. He should buy an all day metro pass for each 24 hour day he is there. He can buy it online from the train ticket site. We rode all day on and off with no problems when in Paris On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:31 PM, wrote: > Hi! > > > > My son is going to Paris over the Christmas holidays. Unfortunately he > booked > a flight to Lyon when he should have gone direct to Paris. Now, he's > looking > at taking a train from Lyon to Paris. Does anyone on the list have any > helpful information on how to get around there? Including how well the > French > understand English? :) > > > TIA! > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Nov 30 15:45:33 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:45:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? In-Reply-To: <20091130214633.YNXT1743.nschwotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> References: <20091130214633.YNXT1743.nschwotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> Message-ID: <94DEC343-E428-4F5D-86FB-618092075AFC@cox.net> I know it's not an HD6. Notice the extra stuff under the diaphragm housing. It looks more like an H6. Like these: http://www.bobs-services.de/archiv/su_h6_jagxk120_80.jpg Look at the very bottom under the diaphram housing. On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:46 PM, John & Kerry Rowe wrote: > The carb is a HD6 . I believe the "d" stands for "diaphragm". They are > interchangeable from side to semidown by use of different float bowls. > John Rowe > Qld Australia > BN1 BT7 > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > ] > On Behalf Of Eric (Rick) Wilkins > Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 3:33 AM > To: dwflagg > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? > > IMHO, That carb is as listed. > > An HD6 is angled. Supposedly the "d" means downdraft (semi). > > On Nov 29, 2009, at 3:23 PM, dwflagg wrote: > >> Look at eBay item #180437624761. It is listed as an HS6, but has the >> bowl >> attached with 4 bolts and looks like an HD6. If you need one, that >> may be >> it. The usual disclaimer of having no financial interest, etc.. >> >> Doug >> ____________________________________________________________ From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 15:50:04 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:50:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Late Friday funny In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <173126440911301450q7971fb6fl8dc02f98ab78dc96@mail.gmail.com> don't confuse the issues with facts. I'm just going to enjoy it as posted without any confusing facts to confuse me :) On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:42 AM, wrote: > Some people have to go and ruin all the fun ... > > http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/computer.asp > > > > > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:44:47 -0500 > > > > Check out the wheel on this baby: > > http://www.samefacts.com/archives/image001.jpg > > > > - Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Mon Nov 30 16:19:56 2009 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John & Kerry Rowe) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:19:56 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? In-Reply-To: <94DEC343-E428-4F5D-86FB-618092075AFC@cox.net> Message-ID: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> Picture too small to make any sense out of. The carb is identical to the ones off my early BT7(one fitted with thermo chokes). The 4 screws denote a diaphragm. The H6 have an adjustable jet with a brass nut which moves the jet up or down -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eric (Rick) Wilkins Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 8:46 AM To: Healeys List Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? I know it's not an HD6. Notice the extra stuff under the diaphragm housing. It looks more like an H6. Like these: http://www.bobs-services.de/archiv/su_h6_jagxk120_80.jpg Look at the very bottom under the diaphram housing. On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:46 PM, John & Kerry Rowe wrote: > The carb is a HD6 . I believe the "d" stands for "diaphragm". They are > interchangeable from side to semidown by use of different float bowls. > John Rowe > Qld Australia > BN1 BT7 > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > ] > On Behalf Of Eric (Rick) Wilkins > Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 3:33 AM > To: dwflagg > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? > > IMHO, That carb is as listed. > > An HD6 is angled. Supposedly the "d" means downdraft (semi). > > On Nov 29, 2009, at 3:23 PM, dwflagg wrote: > >> Look at eBay item #180437624761. It is listed as an HS6, but has the >> bowl >> attached with 4 bolts and looks like an HD6. If you need one, that >> may be >> it. The usual disclaimer of having no financial interest, etc.. >> >> Doug >> ____________________________________________________________ : From sales at justbrits.com Mon Nov 30 16:21:57 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:21:57 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B145395.1090505@justbrits.com> Alright Alan..... << Then there is the BJ8 engine number story - but that would make you weep. >> You CAN'T leave us hanging with that !?!?!?!?!? PLEASE let us know !! Ed From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Nov 30 16:25:12 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:25:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? In-Reply-To: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> References: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> Message-ID: Sorry wrong link: http://www.bobs-services.de/archiv/su_h6_jagxk120_640.jpg The ebay carb has the added nut under the jet housing. HD6 don't have that. On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:19 PM, John & Kerry Rowe wrote: > Picture too small to make any sense out of. > The carb is identical to the ones off my early BT7(one fitted with > thermo > chokes). The 4 screws denote a diaphragm. The H6 have an adjustable > jet with > a brass nut which moves the jet up or down > -----Original Message----- > > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > ] > On Behalf Of Eric (Rick) Wilkins > Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 8:46 AM > To: Healeys List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? > > I know it's not an HD6. Notice the extra stuff under the diaphragm > housing. > > It looks more like an H6. Like these: > > http://www.bobs-services.de/archiv/su_h6_jagxk120_80.jpg > > Look at the very bottom under the diaphram housing. > > On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:46 PM, John & Kerry Rowe wrote: > >> The carb is a HD6 . I believe the "d" stands for "diaphragm". They >> are >> interchangeable from side to semidown by use of different float >> bowls. >> John Rowe >> Qld Australia >> BN1 BT7 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net >> ] >> On Behalf Of Eric (Rick) Wilkins >> Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 3:33 AM >> To: dwflagg >> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? >> >> IMHO, That carb is as listed. >> >> An HD6 is angled. Supposedly the "d" means downdraft (semi). >> >> On Nov 29, 2009, at 3:23 PM, dwflagg wrote: >> >>> Look at eBay item #180437624761. It is listed as an HS6, but has the >>> bowl >>> attached with 4 bolts and looks like an HD6. If you need one, that >>> may be >>> it. The usual disclaimer of having no financial interest, etc.. >>> >>> Doug >>> ____________________________________________________________ > : From pennell at cox.net Mon Nov 30 16:46:12 2009 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:46:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 3 Lefts Make a Right In-Reply-To: <508FFC176D114F3BAF7037CCD91077F6@soloPC> Message-ID: <20091130184612.EIAB3.972508.imail@eastrmwml40> But 2 wrongs do not. ---- Geatros wrote: > Don't forget .... 3 Lefts Make a Right From edriver at sasktel.net Mon Nov 30 16:55:41 2009 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:55:41 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? In-Reply-To: References: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> Message-ID: <4B145B7D.7030307@sasktel.net> Hi Rick One can find pdf files for SU-H, SU-HS and SU-HD carbs in the technical section of www.vintage-sportscar-touring.ca. These manuals have been available for the last four years, also there is a SU-fuel pump manual and the theory of SU carbs. Kind regards Ed Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Historian, AHCUSA Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > Sorry wrong link: > > http://www.bobs-services.de/archiv/su_h6_jagxk120_640.jpg > > The ebay carb has the added nut under the jet housing. HD6 don't have > that. > > On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:19 PM, John & Kerry Rowe wrote: From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Mon Nov 30 16:59:06 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:59:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] AHCA Calendar Message-ID: Yep, I'm Dec 2009 in the AHCA 2010 calendar. That shot was taken in Canada when my generator fried on the way to Conclave. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From grday at btinternet.com Mon Nov 30 17:27:56 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 00:27:56 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit References: <002e01ca71fe$6c5ff3e0$451fdba0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <20865AFC38B6475EB9911B68A41ED3C7@user8634b3d69b> I would query February 29th 1957. It was not a leap year, February ended on the 28th. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJ8 Healeys" To: Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit > Hi, Alan - > > I have copies of BMIHT certificates for 661 BJ8s. For some cars, I have > multiple certificates issued for the same car at different times with > different information. So, I have ample evidence that there are errors on > the certificates far too frequently for the price they are asking for them > now. > > However, I'm not sure if you are considering a build date of 27 February > and > a date when the car left the factory of 29 February as in conflict. The > certificates (for BJ8s, anyway) designate the build dates as the dates > between "Off Body Line" and "Off Finishing". There is another date not > given on the certificates ("Date Advised") which I interpret as the date > that Production notified the next department (Shipping?) that the car was > ready to go. The actual "Despatch" date could be the same date as the > "build" date, or several days, weeks, or months later. It's possible that > your car's build date ("Off Finishing") was 27 February, but the date if > left the factory ("Despatch date") was 29 February. > > I would be interested in your BJ8 engine story, off line if you prefer. I > am aware of the engine situation with HBJ8L/32431, if that's what you're > referring to. > > Happy Healeying! > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of AlanB > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 2:59 PM > To: Wwycoffbn7 at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit > > Team > This guidance assumes that the BMIHT Certificate is a true reflection of > the > information held in the microfiche archive of the factory Build Cards. > > Of the three Certificates that I have bought, I have been able to prove > conclusively that there were errors in two of them. I therefore have a > rather cynical view of the service provided by these 'Archivists'. > > For example, my first BN4 certificate clearly stated the car left the > factory on 29th February 1957 with a paint job of Reno Red over Black. > During restoration, and under four further coats of paint, I found > Colorado > Red. When disputing the Certificate details I managed to coerce a copy of > the Build Card from them. It clearly said the car was 'Red' - no > qualification, and a build date of 27th February. > > They have been known to make stuff up!! > > Then there is the BJ8 engine number story - but that would make you weep. > _______________________________________________ From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Nov 30 17:29:31 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:29:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 3 Lefts Make a Right References: <20091130184612.EIAB3.972508.imail@eastrmwml40> Message-ID: <4AFC1A23AD194C09BC25B99D51CD012B@LIFEBOOK> Enough already....Can we all please drop this left, right thing????Please!!!!!!!My delete button is wearing out. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Geatros" ; "'Healey List'" Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3 Lefts Make a Right > But 2 wrongs do not. > > ---- Geatros wrote: >> Don't forget .... 3 Lefts Make a Right From dwflagg at juno.com Mon Nov 30 17:31:00 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:31:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? Message-ID: <20091130.163153.23159.33730@mailpop01.dca.untd.com> David, Can you tell me what car uses carb set AUC 862? Thanks. Doug HD is for diaphgram jet with a seperate float bowl HS is for pipe jet with a seperate float bowl HI is for the integrated float bowl H is for the integrated jet with seperate float bowl David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: IMHO, That carb is as listed. An HD6 is angled. Supposedly the "d" means downdraft (semi). On Nov 29, 2009, at 3:23 PM, dwflagg wrote: Look at eBay item #180437624761. It is listed as an HS6, but has the bowl attached with 4 bolts and looks like an HD6. If you need one, that may be it. The usual disclaimer of having no financial interest, etc.. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Doctorate Degrees Online Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=8MD5rZQLwY_CkXIYwDKxzwAAJ1B -9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAL0KmT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive ____________________________________________________________ Online Psychology Degrees Earn your psychology degree online. Earn your BS, MA, MBA, Ph.D now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=s2LQO96aJ0ywt1fZnKP1AAAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAOJ-ND4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWSEwAAAAA= From 57healey at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 17:39:52 2009 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:39:52 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit In-Reply-To: <002e01ca71fe$6c5ff3e0$451fdba0$@rr.com> References: <002e01ca71fe$6c5ff3e0$451fdba0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0911301639v394b3502r9f7e127b23df4c7d@mail.gmail.com> I don't believe there was a Feb 29 in 1957. Quite a rare car indeed My first certificate said I have a rare 2 seat BN4. They promptly sent me a replacement, but I still have the one with the error. Patton On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:48 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > "build" date, or several days, weeks, or months later. It's possible that > your car's build date ("Off Finishing") was 27 February, but the date if > left the factory ("Despatch date") was 29 February. -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 17:46:14 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:46:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 3 Lefts Make a Right In-Reply-To: <4AFC1A23AD194C09BC25B99D51CD012B@LIFEBOOK> References: <20091130184612.EIAB3.972508.imail@eastrmwml40> <4AFC1A23AD194C09BC25B99D51CD012B@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: Right. Good ides I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Nov 30, 2009, at 4:29 PM, "Rich C" wrote: > Enough already....Can we all please drop this left, right thing???? > Please!!!!!!!My delete button is wearing out. > > Rich Chrysler > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: "Geatros" ; "'Healey List'" > > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3 Lefts Make a Right > > >> But 2 wrongs do not. >> >> ---- Geatros wrote: >>> Don't forget .... 3 Lefts Make a Right > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 18:12:04 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:12:04 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? In-Reply-To: <20091129.152330.17206.31803@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> References: <20091129.152330.17206.31803@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: It's bizarre, every time I try to pull up that link, it redirects me to the US Green Card lottery program, I can't even click through.. arg.... The Al Gore's internets not very helpful. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:23 AM, dwflagg wrote: > Look at eBay item #180437624761. It is listed as an HS6, but has the bowl > attached with 4 bolts and looks like an HD6. If you need one, that may be > it. The usual disclaimer of having no financial interest, etc.. > > Doug > ____________________________________________________________ > Doctorate Degrees Online > Boost your career with an online doctoral degree. Enroll today! > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=8MD5rZQLwY_CkXIYwDKxzwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAL0KmT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyOQAAAAA= From tjmorrio at colby.edu Mon Nov 30 18:27:40 2009 From: tjmorrio at colby.edu (Thomas Morrione) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:27:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rear spring shackles Message-ID: Dear Listers, Are all BJ8 rear spring shackle lower bolt to upper shackle bolt distances the same? I9ve taken off a set on my 65 BJ8 each of which has one fixed pin and one not (oddly, they are different diameters as well). What I have looks a bit like an older 100-6 set up with a shaved-head bolt on the one non-fixed side. Got new springs and got a new shackle set and they have a wider distance, bolt shackle to frame and bolt shackle to spring -- about a good quarter of an inch more distance between these two bolts, that is. What will this mean, if anything, re wheel height into wheel well, etc.? Was my original set up just weird? Am I in for it when I try to do this job? (I9ve read the archives and gleaned caveats from web stories re leaf spring hassles. Am a bit worried.) BTW - -the springs that came off with these odd (?) shackles are almost flat (and have more leafs) compared to the new replacement ones that I got with big bows in them. TIA for help on this and other ongoing sagas. Tom 65 BJ8 in process From glemon at neb.rr.com Mon Nov 30 18:37:54 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:37:54 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> If things aren't firmed up with Paris maybe head South to the Nice/Cannes/Antibes/Monaco area, better scenery, fewer crowds, better hotels for less money, generally more friendly folk. My wife and I visited both areas about 10 years ago and much preferred the Sunny south of France to Paris, although if you are only going once I suppose the Eiffel Tower, Louvre etc. should probably be on the to do list. If they don't understand English try talking louder and making exagerrated hand gestures, it helps the American image oh so much. Just kidding many know some little bit of English, but they don't always seem happy about trying to converse in it. If possible not a bad idea to learn some basic conversational French, or at least add "ou est la sal de bains" and "Parlez-vous Anglais?" Greg Lemon From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 30 19:05:55 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:05:55 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 3 Lefts Make a Right In-Reply-To: <4AFC1A23AD194C09BC25B99D51CD012B@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <20091130200555.IU2DF.1153583.root@ispmxfep10-z02> What's the matter Rich--you feeling "left out":):):):) Sorry, I just couldn't resist one more. ---- Rich C wrote: ============= Enough already....Can we all please drop this left, right thing????Please!!!!!!!My delete button is wearing out. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Geatros" ; "'Healey List'" Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3 Lefts Make a Right > But 2 wrongs do not. > > ---- Geatros wrote: >> Don't forget .... 3 Lefts Make a Right Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Mon Nov 30 19:33:52 2009 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John & Kerry Rowe) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:33:52 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091201023357.QWBG17290.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> Rick Just confirmed with my old HD6s. That part on the bottom is part of the electric/thermo choke set up. When I removed the chokes from mine,I also removed this part and blanked off the holes left in the base plate. If you look at the photo from Bobs-services, you will note the black control box (solenoid) between the two carbs John Rowe Qld Australia BN1 BT7 -----Original Message----- From: Eric (Rick) Wilkins [mailto:e-wilkins at cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 9:25 AM To: John & Kerry Rowe Cc: 'Healeys List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? Sorry wrong link: http://www.bobs-services.de/archiv/su_h6_jagxk120_640.jpg The ebay carb has the added nut under the jet housing. HD6 don't have that. On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:19 PM, John & Kerry Rowe wrote: > Picture too small to make any sense out of. > The carb is identical to the ones off my early BT7(one fitted with > thermo > chokes). The 4 screws denote a diaphragm. The H6 have an adjustable > jet with > a brass nut which moves the jet up or down > -----Original Message----- > > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > ] > On Behalf Of Eric (Rick) Wilkins > Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 8:46 AM > To: Healeys List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? > > I know it's not an HD6. Notice the extra stuff under the diaphragm > housing. > > It looks more like an H6. Like these: > > http://www.bobs-services.de/archiv/su_h6_jagxk120_80.jpg > > Look at the very bottom under the diaphram housing. > > On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:46 PM, John & Kerry Rowe wrote: > >> The carb is a HD6 . I believe the "d" stands for "diaphragm". They >> are >> interchangeable from side to semidown by use of different float >> bowls. >> John Rowe >> Qld Australia >> BN1 BT7 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net >> ] >> On Behalf Of Eric (Rick) Wilkins >> Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 3:33 AM >> To: dwflagg >> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? >> >> IMHO, That carb is as listed. >> >> An HD6 is angled. Supposedly the "d" means downdraft (semi). >> >> On Nov 29, 2009, at 3:23 PM, dwflagg wrote: >> >>> Look at eBay item #180437624761. It is listed as an HS6, but has the >>> bowl >>> attached with 4 bolts and looks like an HD6. If you need one, that >>> may be >>> it. The usual disclaimer of having no financial interest, etc.. >>> >>> Doug >>> ____________________________________________________________ > : From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 19:48:23 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:48:23 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: he can take the TGV. Very fast train, probably only about 2hrs to Paris. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:31 AM, wrote: > Hi! > > > > My son is going to Paris over the Christmas holidays. Unfortunately he > booked > a flight to Lyon when he should have gone direct to Paris. Now, he's > looking > at taking a train from Lyon to Paris. Does anyone on the list have any > helpful information on how to get around there? Including how well the > French > understand English? :) > > > TIA! > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 20:15:30 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:15:30 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? In-Reply-To: References: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> Message-ID: That is definitely an HD6 carb, but it looks to have the earlier connection for the thermo choke. I don't think they used these carbs on Triumphs, this seems to be something similar to the HD6s they used on XK 150s Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > Sorry wrong link: > > http://www.bobs-services.de/archiv/su_h6_jagxk120_640.jpg > > The ebay carb has the added nut under the jet housing. HD6 don't have that. From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 30 20:38:55 2009 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:38:55 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20091130193723.01fca830@pop.att.yahoo.com> Rich, Use boiling water to remove the stickers. You should be able to carefully peel them away until you are down to the last one. John At 03:17 PM 11/25/2009 -0800, Richard Kahn wrote: >.... The problem is that I cannot prove that the first >sticker is a 1964 sticker under the pile of stickers on the plate..... >Thanks >Rich Kahn From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 30 21:10:55 2009 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:10:55 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger In-Reply-To: <48720d20911231202g5d4886aex424930c23ad16d7d@mail.gmail.com > References: <48720d20911231202g5d4886aex424930c23ad16d7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20091130200518.01fed998@pop.att.yahoo.com> I switched to National Automobile Club quite some time ago and they have been great! BTW, The California AAA reported over $3,500,000,000 in stocks and cash and cash equivalents in three years (2001-2004) I do not understand how they can be a non-profit and change so much. I had them for nearly 30 years and quit because they are expensive. John At 02:02 PM 11/23/2009 -0600, Jack Feldman wrote: >Beware of AAA towing for a Healey. ... > >AAA is cheap, and doesn't really care about your car. *Be sure the person >who puts it on a flatbed knows what he is doing. >*.... >BEWARE OF AAA! They are more interested in selling you insurance and booking >trips than servicing your special needs.. > >Jack From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Nov 30 21:27:34 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:27:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 HD6 Carb? In-Reply-To: References: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> Message-ID: <1B6D2D28-2896-4CB5-8026-8AA29A9B7E08@cox.net> Great bunch of info here. Thanks. On Nov 30, 2009, at 7:15 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > That is definitely an HD6 carb, but it looks to have the earlier > connection for the thermo choke. > > I don't think they used these carbs on Triumphs, this seems to be > something similar to the HD6s they used on XK 150s > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wilkins at cox.net> wrote: > Sorry wrong link: > > http://www.bobs-services.de/archiv/su_h6_jagxk120_640.jpg > > The ebay carb has the added nut under the jet housing. HD6 don't > have that. From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 21:45:07 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:45:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20091130193723.01fca830@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20091130193723.01fca830@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8B11357B-6A31-4136-AEC4-D131CED64D71@gmail.com> The 1963 Cal plates from my car are stamped 1963. I found 1 plate been looking for the other 1 was reg to my healey from 1977-1993. Then I moved it to Oregon in 1997. So it was reg as s healey as a 59. BN4. Would that help someone reg as 63 YOM plate. Im restoring my BT7 and would be open to a trade. Contsct me off list I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Nov 30, 2009, at 7:38 PM, john spaur wrote: > Rich, > > Use boiling water to remove the stickers. You should be able to > carefully peel them away until you are down to the last one. > > John > > At 03:17 PM 11/25/2009 -0800, Richard Kahn wrote: >> .... The problem is that I cannot prove that the first >> sticker is a 1964 sticker under the pile of stickers on the >> plate..... >> Thanks >> Rich Kahn > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 22:03:17 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:03:17 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20091130200518.01fed998@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <48720d20911231202g5d4886aex424930c23ad16d7d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.3.4.2.20091130200518.01fed998@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John - As an insurance company, they don't have to follow standard GAAP accounting procedures. They do need the cash and equivalents to operate properly as an insurance company, but they won't necessarily be non profit except according to the rules they are supposed to follow. It's all a bit of a bait and switch, but to be fair, they need the cash on the books for their insurance business. Are they really a non-profit? Who knows. With google maps and Garmin, I guess the only AAA benefit these days is the towing, but honestly if I'm somewhere around my hometown neigborhood, towing insurance is far better than AAA because I can specify the tow company and ask for a flatbed tow. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:10 PM, john spaur wrote: > I switched to National Automobile Club quite some time ago and they have > been great! > > BTW, The California AAA reported over $3,500,000,000 in stocks and cash and > cash equivalents in three years (2001-2004) I do not understand how they can > be a non-profit and change so much. I had them for nearly 30 years and quit > because they are expensive. > > John From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Mon Nov 30 23:20:35 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:20:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger In-Reply-To: References: <48720d20911231202g5d4886aex424930c23ad16d7d@mail.gmail.com>, <6.2.3.4.2.20091130200518.01fed998@pop.att.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: The successful transfer happened today. None of the flatbeds were available today here in Lake Tahoe. One with mechanical problems and one took a car to Sacramento. AAA sent one up from Gardnerville,NV about 30 miles away. Took it to Sparks. NV, beyond Reno. (They say Reno is so close to Hell, you can see Sparks). He were experienced with the Healey's clearance problems and all went well. Seventy plus miles of tow and no charge. Same when I bring her home, they said. I've seldom needed their services (they did bring gas to the Healey in the middle of nowhere once) but it paid for itself. Thanks for all the input' Rich Kahn > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:03:17 +0800 > From: healey.nut at gmail.com > To: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net > CC: healeys at autox.team.net; qualitas.jack at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger > > John - > > As an insurance company, they don't have to follow standard GAAP accounting > procedures. They do need the cash and equivalents to operate properly as an > insurance company, but they won't necessarily be non profit except according > to the rules they are supposed to follow. It's all a bit of a bait and > switch, but to be fair, they need the cash on the books for their insurance > business. Are they really a non-profit? Who knows. > > With google maps and Garmin, I guess the only AAA benefit these days is the > towing, but honestly if I'm somewhere around my hometown neigborhood, towing > insurance is far better than AAA because I can specify the tow company and > ask for a flatbed tow. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:10 PM, john spaur wrote: > > > I switched to National Automobile Club quite some time ago and they have > > been great! > > > > BTW, The California AAA reported over $3,500,000,000 in stocks and cash and > > cash equivalents in three years (2001-2004) I do not understand how they can > > be a non-profit and change so much. I had them for nearly 30 years and quit > > because they are expensive. > > > > John > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Mon Nov 30 23:24:45 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:24:45 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california In-Reply-To: <8B11357B-6A31-4136-AEC4-D131CED64D71@gmail.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20091130193723.01fca830@pop.att.yahoo.com>, <8B11357B-6A31-4136-AEC4-D131CED64D71@gmail.com> Message-ID: I found someone at the Sacramento DMV who will try to help me. All I have to do is photo copy the plate and my Heritage cert. The plate is stamped 63 and my BJ8 was made in 63. She sounded positive. But the law is poorly written, the employees are poorly trained and frankly they don't give a damn. Rich Kahn > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > To: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] YOM plates for california > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:45:07 -0800 > CC: tahoehealey at hotmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net > > The 1963 Cal plates from my car are stamped 1963. I found 1 plate been > looking for the other 1 was reg to my healey from 1977-1993. Then I > moved it to Oregon in 1997. So it was reg as s healey as a 59. BN4. > Would that help someone reg as 63 YOM plate. Im restoring my BT7 and > would be open to a trade. Contsct me off list > > I Erbs > Sent from my iPod > > On Nov 30, 2009, at 7:38 PM, john spaur wrote: > > > Rich, > > > > Use boiling water to remove the stickers. You should be able to > > carefully peel them away until you are down to the last one. > > > > John > > > > At 03:17 PM 11/25/2009 -0800, Richard Kahn wrote: > >> .... The problem is that I cannot prove that the first > >> sticker is a 1964 sticker under the pile of stickers on the > >> plate..... > >> Thanks > >> Rich Kahn > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 23:48:25 2009 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:48:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] YOM plates for california In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.3.4.2.20091130193723.01fca830@pop.att.yahoo.com> <8B11357B-6A31-4136-AEC4-D131CED64D71@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5caeedb50911302248s783da2d1rcc5d7659bb7995b3@mail.gmail.com> ya just gotta keep trying different folks until ya get the right answer. ron rader CA YOM plates = 1954 1956 1966 1965 1967 On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > > I found someone at the Sacramento DMV who will try to help me. All I have to > do is photo copy the plate and my Heritage cert. The plate is stamped 63 and > my BJ8 was made in 63. She sounded positive. But the law is poorly written, > the employees are poorly trained and frankly they don't give a damn. > Rich Kahn